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Now let's get into the news.
Donald Trump has been held in contempt of court.
He'll be fined $9,000 and the judge in New York has threatened him with jail time if there are any further violations of the gag order.
Now, why would Trump stand for this?
Trump has certainly spoken out.
He's criticized the judge.
He's criticized the trial.
But the charges against him have no basis in statutory law.
That is to say, they are charging Donald Trump with a misdemeanor that is beyond the statute of limitations that they have upgraded to a felony because of some underlying crime that they have not actually laid out.
Interestingly, even after I think we're on day nine, there has still been no evidence in court that Donald Trump was involved in whatever it is they are alleging.
They're claiming that Trump orchestrated a scheme to bury negative stories to influence the election, which is not a crime.
And even with that allegation, there's no evidence he actually did.
Because his lawyer and a guy who ran a media publication had apparently communicated with each other to suppress negative stories about Trump.
Where's Trump's involvement?
Now, it's entirely possible that in the coming days, the prosecution will come out with some evidence they say will directly connect Donald Trump to this scheme.
Still, the problem remains, there's nothing illegal here.
That's it.
It's remarkable to see some of these focus groups.
You had one video where a woman's saying, you wrote these things for your lawyer!
You did it!
And it's like, that's really fascinating.
You did it.
But it is not a crime.
It would be like criminally charging someone for eating a bologna sandwich and then having a witness be like, I saw him eat bologna.
And then, aha!
We got him!
You get him what?
He ate a sandwich.
Trump paid a lawyer.
The lawyer did whatever.
I don't know.
Where's the evidence that Trump did anything illegal?
But here it is.
Trump now being threatened with jail again.
And the question, of course, I go back to is, why would Trump stand for this?
Well, my favorite theory, actually, you have Democrats saying Trump wants to be arrested.
Makes sense.
I guess.
You know, Michael Mills had a tweet about this.
He said, it's not the 4-D chess victory people think it is.
He's in court.
He's being accused of crimes and people are falling for it.
I'm paraphrasing, but something to that effect.
Well, some Democrats theorize that Donald Trump is only playing along because he wants them to overplay their hand and put him in jail.
He thinks it's going to boost him up in the polls.
With everything going on in New York, Trump in the polls hasn't flinched.
This may be the case.
Perhaps Donald Trump wants to get arrested.
Now, of course, there's always that meme where it's like the guy says, haha, joke's on you.
I was only pretending to be stupid.
I don't know.
I don't.
Many people believe that if Donald Trump is actually put in jail and put in cuffs, he will win.
They will make him a martyr.
Perhaps.
Or maybe Trump just doesn't want to go to jail, so he's complying.
But if that were the case, why would he violate the gag order?
You see?
Maybe the reality is Trump is hoping to go to jail so that he can accuse the Democrats of all of this wrongdoing.
Now aside from this being held in contempt, which is big news and we'll cover all this, Donald Trump has given an interview to Time Magazine outlining what he plans to do.
And it includes building camps and using the military to deal with migrants and let states monitor pregnancies.
Somehow I believe that's all out of context.
Sure.
We'll read this, and then there's the great accusation that, uh, let me see this one.
Is this, uh, is this, where do we have the, um, I don't actually pulled it up.
There's the, uh, an accusation that Donald Trump was given devil horns.
Actually, let me, let me pull up the tweet here because, uh, I do have it.
We have BrickSuit.
Oh no, it appears to have been deleted.
Okay, I think people are realizing that the devil horns on Trump was fake news.
So it's actually gone already.
But in the cover...
Of Time Magazine, you have Trump sitting in front of it.
Someone is sharing a fake image where Trump appears to have devil horns, but it appears to be fake.
But we'll get into this and talk about Trump's plans.
We'll start with Trump being held in contempt of court.
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Let's read the news from NBC.
The judge presiding over Donald Trump's hush money case on Tuesday held the former president in criminal contempt over a series of posts on Truth Social that he said violated a gag order barring any attacks on jurors and witnesses and warned Trump he could be jailed for further violations.
Judge Juan Marchand ruled Trump in contempt for nine violations of his gag
order with a fine of $1,000 for each instance.
He warned in the decision that he would not tolerate further violations of the gag order
and said if necessary and appropriate under the circumstances,
he would impose, I love this quote, an incarceratory punishment on the former president.
The judge explained that because of the fines, which are limited by state law,
were relatively little in comparison to Trump's wealth, they might be unlikely to deter the former president from
abiding by the court's order.
Brashan said that while he would prefer to impose commensurately larger fines,
he instead had to consider whether in some instances jail may be a necessary punishment.
You will not silence this man!
Donald Trump has, in my opinion, has to win some kind of meritous award for his statement about Bill Burr.
No, Bill Barr?
Bill Burr is the comedian, right?
Their names are so similar!
Where he said I called him fat, slow-moving, lazy, lethargic, and seeing as he endorsed me, and I accept his wholehearted endorsement, I will now remove lethargic from my statement.
Trump's not going to stop. The gag order prohibits the former president from making or directing
others to make public statements about known or reasonably foreseeable witnesses concerning their
potential participation in the investigation or in this criminal proceeding. Public statements
about any prospective juror or any juror.
Sean said Tuesday that his order was lawful and unambiguous and that Trump violated it
with social media posts about witnesses and public comments about jurors.
He ordered Trump to remove seven of the posts at issue from the truth social account and
two other offending posts from his campaign website by 2 15 PM Tuesday.
I hope he doesn't.
I hope Trump says no.
The judges gagged Trump, but Cohen and other people involved in the case are not gagged,
are speaking about the case, are attacking Donald Trump, and Trump's not allowed to respond.
Nope.
Trump should say no.
Look, when it comes to defamation and slander, the argument is, well, if you're a public figure, you can just speak to counteract the lie, so have at it.
But if Michael Cohen, Stormy Dales, or anyone else in the case is disparaging Trump, And Trump can't say anything about it, then there is no remedy.
So this is, it's obscene.
Trump should speak.
He should legally challenge the fines.
Appeal to a higher court.
The judge also said in response to Trump's complaints about the comments of expected witnesses Michael Cohen and Stormy Daniels have made outside the court, he might consider modifying the gag order to remove them from its protections if he finds it necessary in the future.
You see?
Yeah, maybe I'll tell them that you can respond.
Cohen said in a statement in response to the judge's decision that the small fine is irrelevant.
Judge Mershan's decision elucidates that his behavior will not be tolerated and that no one is above the law.
This is contempt of court.
It's not law.
Rashan had indicated on April 23rd that he was not impressed by the arguments from the defense, telling one of Trump's attorneys that he was losing all credibility when he suggested that Trump was exercising caution to comply with the gag order.
Prosecutors from the Manhattan District Attorney's Office had accused Trump of violating Rashan's April 1st order at least 10 times.
The question is, will Trump go to jail?
$1,000 fine for each post they considered a violation, along with an order that Trump
removed the post.
So that's basically what they ruled.
Blah, blah, blah.
We get it.
We get it.
The question is, will Trump go to jail?
Don't know.
Trump has pleaded not guilty to 34 counts of falsifying business records related to
his reimbursement to Cohen for the lawyer's hush money payment to Stormy Daniels in the
closing days of the 2016 campaign.
Daniels claims she had an encounter, adult encounter, with Trump in 06, an allegation he denies.
Trump faces up to four years in prison if he's convicted, and this is state level, meaning even if Trump wins the presidency, he will not be able to pardon himself or get out of jail.
Now what will Trump do should he win?
Trump tells Time Magazine, what he will do if he wins the 2024 election, build camps and use the military to deal with migrants and let states monitor pregnancies.
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Americans can expect a 15 million person deportation operation and implementation of programs designed to monitor women who violate abortion bans if Donald Trump wins another White House term in 24.
Trump is ready to reshape American policy and detailed in interviews at Time Magazine.
In a wide-ranging interview at Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort in Palm Beach, Florida on April 12th, the former president confirmed he would use detention camps to house illegal immigrants during deportation efforts.
I want to pull up this... I'm going to pull up this image purportedly, and here we go.
Do we?
What is this?
I'm going to pull it up anyway.
This is a tweet from Dom Luker that has been going, being spread around.
People apparently saw this image and started reposting it.
It is not real.
As far as I can tell, it's not real.
Dom Luker says they gave President Trump devil horns.
They know he is the end of their era.
Seeing Donald Trump in time tells me everything I need to know.
He already won, and they are just trying to make it acceptable for everybody.
And of course, you know, he says he launched his Update Time magazine on YouTube.
People are saying they're corrupt, blah, blah, blah.
The only problem is, this is the tweet from the author.
Eric Cortelesa.
This is the guy who actually wrote it.
And at 9 in the morning, he posted this image.
Trump does not have devil horns.
So I don't know where this is coming from, but I'm seeing a lot of people share the image I believe to be fake.
Let's read as to what Trump is planning.
Now, here's the context.
In a wide-ranging interview at Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort in Palm Beach, Florida on April 12th, the former president confirmed he would use detention camps to house illegal immigrants.
He also didn't rule out deploying the military to round up the millions of undocumented immigrants living in the country.
There's a big difference between saying, I don't know, maybe, and saying, you will.
So when the headline says, use, build camps and use the military to deal with migrants, that is fake news.
Trump has repeatedly said he would take aggressive actions to address the border issue on day one of a second term after President Joe Biden reversed almost all of his policies and plunged the country into an all-out illegal immigration crisis.
All right.
I'm just going to say it.
If there is going to be a civil war, the catalyst is going to be illegal immigration, not abortion.
I'll tell you why.
You know, I long thought that abortion could be this moral issue questioning personhood.
And in the United States, slaves were considered not to be individuals who had rights.
They were property.
And we asked this question, they were abolitionists, and eventually it came to a civil war that saw the end of this practice.
And it's human atrocity, slavery.
But with abortion, the babies can't fight back.
You see, with slavery, you had former slaves advocating on their behalf.
You had people fleeing, going to the North, and then working really hard to end slavery.
Babies can't do that.
The unborn can't do that.
So I don't really see abortion sparking this issue.
If there's a former slave who goes and makes friends and says, I need your help to free my friends, they say, wow, your friends are being held captive.
But the babies aren't doing that.
People who survive abortions often don't know if they do, they might advocate for pro-life issues, but no one's sitting there saying, we have to go save these babies, and the babies aren't certainly calling for help.
They're in the womb.
But illegal immigration, and I'll tell you why.
If it is true that Trump is going to build camps, and that Donald Trump will use the military, I want you to imagine what this looks like.
California, home to many illegal immigrants.
I think the estimate might be like a million or two.
Donald Trump sends in ICE, CBP begins enforcement at the border, and California resists.
People who live in California start human chains around buildings to protect illegal immigrants.
ICE says, we don't care.
It's the law.
And starts pulling these people from their homes.
I want you to imagine this.
A photo.
A mother who is maybe 38, 40 years old.
20-year-old child.
18-year-old.
Or no.
Let's do a better photo.
A woman.
Who is 30 with a 10-year-old child.
And there is an ICE agent pulling her away from her 10-year-old son who's crying with tears, reaching out, and ICE agents grabbing the child.
The woman is screaming and reaching out.
Because the woman is an illegal immigrant who is going to be deported.
But the child was born in America and is an American citizen.
Now Trump may avoid these things by taking the mother and the child.
And then you have an image of a mother with her son huddled as officers are loading her into a vehicle.
Police cruiser, wagon of some sort, bus.
Who knows?
Those photos, both of them bad.
One obviously worse.
Yeah, California will resist that.
Many of these blue states will not allow Donald Trump to do this.
Riots could erupt.
If they do, and Trump does decide to bring in the military to enforce our laws and secure this nation, you will have split.
The left will argue that the undocumented citizens, as they've been calling them increasingly, should have every human and inalienable right that is granted, and simply because they're not documented, shouldn't restrict them of their rights.
Donald Trump will say they're not citizens.
They have no rights in this country.
You have constitutional rights, you do, but you don't have a right to be here.
So they may have free speech and freedom of movement, but they broke the law, they will be deported.
I wonder, what we already saw in Texas, the Biden administration says, we are going to allow all of the illegal immigrants in.
Texas says no.
I think it was Operation Lone Star, is that what they call it?
National Guard gets deployed to the border and blocks federal agents.
They stop.
The precedent is set.
Let's say Trump wins and ICE does not have the capability, they don't, there's not enough ICE agents to round up 12, 13 million people.
So Trump says, we're going to send in National Guard.
to assist because that's what the National Guard can do.
They can be called upon when typical law enforcement is strained and cannot enforce the law. The
states resist. They say, we're not going to allow you in. Will it rise to the point where National
Guard stands against National Guard?
We already saw that to a certain degree with the Texas border.
But imagine what will happen if Trump really does start loading up people onto buses and military vehicles to send them to camps.
What are you going to do?
administration, Biden administration, and they will stand against Texas National Guard.
That should get interesting.
But imagine what will happen if Trump really does start loading up people onto buses and
military vehicles to send them to camps.
What are you going to do?
You can't just arrest them, put them in a jail cell and then get them on a plane to
fly them back.
They would have to be held in camps where they would then be loaded onto trains in large numbers and sent back to their home countries.
You think Mexico is going to let them in?
Yeah, not going to happen.
So what will Trump do and how will Trump actually deal with this?
They are going to post every photo, every person being loaded onto a train.
They're going to say to every single one of these officers, you know, these trains are going to camps.
The camps are going to have horrible living conditions.
It's going to be a disaster.
I do not endorse this.
I think Trump should secure the border and we should begin a simple, light and methodical deportation process that involves no military, no camps, none of that.
Now as for those who come at the southern border and are being held in CBP facilities, well I don't know what to do about it.
The left has claimed they're concentration camps.
It's like the people are begging to get in!
That I get.
I'm saying Trump should not round people up in cities, build camps, and then send them to them.
No.
There should be, it should be slow and methodical, and one at a time.
You're here illegally, you're being deported.
One at a time, with no added infrastructure other than personnel.
They'll get held in jails, and they'll be deported very quickly.
That's how it should be done.
The photos may show a woman being taken from her child.
Yup.
And then she will be calmly and politely placed on a plane where she will fly back to her home country.
That is the way to do it.
It will be expensive.
It will be arduous.
And it will take years, probably longer than Trump has in office.
But that's the way you do it.
The way you do not do it is you do not send in the military to round up masses of people and put them in camps.
I do not endorse that.
In fact, I reject that.
That would be a massive, major mistake.
We'll see.
In the meantime, I'll let you guys know that we are actually working on setting up an interview with the great Donald Trump, former president, the greatest president of my lifetime, a man of many mistakes.
I can accept all of that and still recognize he's the best president of my life.
I don't know what that means for the previous presidents, but it's a fact.
For all his faults and all his problems, I can point to the failures of the past presidents and say, Trump was the best.
Now, of course, they come out and say, what about the indictments?
It's fake.
It's nonsense.
There's not even statutory law behind this.
I'll read just a little bit more.
They say Trump's proposals would include tapping local law enforcement, National Guard, and, if necessary, U.S.
military to round up illegal immigrants for deportation.
Time national politics reporter Eric Cortalesa asked Trump if he would override the Posse Comitatus Act.
Well, these aren't civilians, the former president replied.
These are people that aren't legally in our country.
This is an invasion of our country, an invasion like probably no country has ever seen.
They're coming in by the millions.
I believe we have 15 million now.
And I think you have 20 million by the time this ends.
And that's bigger than almost every state.
He also said, it isn't likely See how they manipulate?
these immigrants in detention camps because he plans to port them swiftly, but it didn't
rule out building more holding centers if needed during the operation.
No I would not rule out anything, but there wouldn't be that much of a need for them because
of the fact that we're going to be moving them out.
We're going to bring them back from where they came.
You see, always they put it out of context.
Trump didn't say I'm going to build camps, use the military.
He says I'm not going to rule out anything and they turn it into that.
See how they manipulate?
Trump is actually basically saying what I said.
You know, the military makes sense in what Trump is saying.
They're not citizens.
But Trump should understand this.
If the military tries to assist in the deportation of these people, civilians will intervene in places like California, New York, and Illinois.
In which case, the military cannot do anything.
So it is not the appropriate move.
National Guard, perhaps.
I recommend swift deportations, but with existing infrastructure, utilizing perhaps an increase in personnel.
So, what we already have, but you're going to have to work overtime.
That's the way you go about doing it.
But they're going to try and make it seem like the worst possible thing imaginable.
They're going to say that Trump took a lukewarm position on abortion earlier this month.
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Last night, and into the early hours of the morning today, far-left extremists smashed their way into a building, Hamilton Hall, at Columbia, and are now forcefully and physically occupying the space.
In many other universities across the country, the far-left protests are expanding, and while the backdrop of it, they say, is Palestine-Israel, you take a look at what they're actually protesting for, and it seems to be generic leftist protest.
I say this in every video, by all means, criticize Israel, a government, and their military actions, but when you see things like the People's University, when you see things like the People's Library popping up, these have nothing to do with Israel.
More importantly, when the people smash their way into buildings at universities and take them over, making demands having nothing to do with Israel, I gotta be honest, when they put out demands and they're like, we want water, We want space.
We want amnesty.
And it has nothing to do with Israel.
You need only ask yourself a simple question.
How does setting up a camp at a university help Palestine?
It doesn't.
It's not policy.
It doesn't do anything.
All it does is freak out many Jewish students.
And it does.
I am not saying that the majority of the protesters are targeting Jewish people.
I'm saying many of the Jewish students are freaked out by it.
And that's really all you're accomplishing.
Pissing people off.
Pissing off regular people.
But I can say at least they're pissing off the deep state.
Democrats and Republicans absolutely freaking out about this.
Now, we have videos of the far leftists breaking into the building.
You can see here's a photo of a man wearing a mask and goggles, smashing his way into the window, through the window.
I think the important thing to mention before we get started, actually I was planning on getting to this a bit later, but I think Let me see, we have this tweet from Andy Ngo pointing out, this is from a few days ago, this is from the 28th, two days ago.
Dozens of extremists were arrested at Arizona State on April 27th at the illegal encampment for Gaza.
Administrators say most were not students or faculty.
This is the important distinction.
These people These people that we are seeing, many of them of course are students, many of them are not students.
Far-left agitators show up, smash their way through windows, enter the building, and they're doing it because they are communists.
Look, man.
There's a lot of people who don't like Israel and they're going to say, no, how dare you?
Because this fits their narrative.
But I tell you this as someone who's covered these protests, who's seen them, admitted it's been six years since I've actually gone on the ground to these protests, but.
These people have generic leftist causes.
They want to destabilize the machine, the system, the institutions.
They want to destroy the United States.
That's really what they're doing.
This is just their flavor of the month.
They saw that if you were anti-Israel, you got a lot of followers, you got a lot of views, and so they roll with it, for this is the cause of 2024.
Take a look at George Floyd.
George Floyd was a guy who was chewing on a speedball behind the wheel of a car.
A speedball, of course, is meth, and what is it?
It's like methamphetamines and fentanyl, I think?
I could be wrong.
Let me make sure I get this speedball.
Uh, proper.
It's a drug that is, um, cocaine, a mix of amphetamines, and opiates.
There you go.
So, uh, that's what George Floyd was doing.
Behind the wheel of a car.
They pull him out, there's all the video footage of him screaming, take me out of the car, take me out of the car, put me on the ground, put me on the ground.
And they do.
Chauvin shows up after all of this has happened, and kneels on his back and neck area.
I mean, it's up for debate, right?
George Floyd dies.
They take over city blocks.
They firebomb federal buildings.
They protest across the country.
For what?
What were they hoping to accomplish and what did they accomplish?
They just smashed and destroyed.
Then you take a look at Ahmaud Arbery.
Same thing.
They lie and they just riot.
Here we are now, with many of these students pretending to care about Palestine.
They could not tell you anything about Palestine.
There's already a video of a young woman being asked at NYU why you're protesting, and she's like, we just want NYU to stop.
What is NYU doing that we're mad about?
They don't know or care.
I'll put it simply for you.
Young people, many of them, with no idea what's happening in the world, they heard something, the thing they heard makes them angry, but for the most part, I tell you this.
22-year-old kid sitting in his dorm, 20-year-old kid, playing video games, and his friends are like, hey, you wanna go down to the camp?
And they're like, oh yeah, what's going on?
It's like, people like camping on the lawn, like they're protesting.
Oh cool, let's go check it out.
That's it.
You see all these people standing around, and it's mostly because they're just like, I don't know, what?
They show up, they're hanging out, you can see some of these people have no idea what they're talking about, as I mentioned with that video, and then they're like, come on, help protect the encampment!
It's like Burning Man!
That's what they're doing.
I'll read for you the New York Times first, what they say, but then I'll show you some videos.
The New York Times says here are the latest developments.
Protesters occupied a building on Columbia's main campus early Tuesday, escalating tensions at the university after weeks of walkouts, encampments, and outdoor gatherings by pro-Palestinian demonstrators that had led to suspensions and more than a hundred arrests.
Hamilton Hall, a building with a history of student takeovers, was seized shortly after demonstrators marched around the Manhattan campus to chants of Free Palestine.
Hours earlier, administrators had begun suspending students who refused to leave an encampment.
The university closed the campus to everyone but students who live in one of seven dorms on campus and employees who provide essential services.
Similar escalations in pro-Palestinian protests occurred at campus on the West Coast on Monday night.
At California State Polytechnic University Humboldt, the police made arrests as protesters kept Siemens Hall barricaded for more than a week.
At Portland State University in Oregon, students took over a library.
We have this from the post-millennial.
Millions of dollars in damage at Cal Poly Humboldt campus after Gaza camp takeover.
I'll show you the photos from Columbia.
We do have a new live update here, just updated as I was reading this.
They say student and faculty have lined up to enter Columbia's campus on 116th and Amsterdam on Tuesday morning, but have been repeatedly denied access.
Jeremy Wall, 30, a senior in the School of General Studies, and his wife, Taylor Francisco, 26, a graduate student, were denied access to the main campus and its dining halls, where they go to eat each day.
I'm a low-income student, Wall said.
We depend on my low-income meal plan to get food every morning.
We are being denied the basic amenities of the university.
Wall reached out to the administration and said that he was told that the Barnard and Teachers College campuses were accessible for all dining plans.
I'm just gonna say it.
Terrorism.
I'm not going to play any games.
Take a look at this video.
Take a look at this video.
tweets. Columbia University organized rioters dressed in black block broke and entered into
a campus building in Manhattan. Hamilton Hall had been smashed up and occupied by masked
far left extremists saying they're doing it for Palestine.
Take a look at this video.
I'll play this video for you. Here you can see three people climbing their way through
windows, likely how they gained access to the building to then open up the doors and
occupy it.
Here's another.
This is a tweet from Andy Ngo.
We have this right here.
Columbia University anti-Semitic students occupied and barricaded themselves into Hamilton Hall.
They are physically assaulting Jewish students.
One of the students says, what you are doing is 100% an assault.
Police.
I try to be careful on the it's anti-semitism thing.
These are far-left extremists.
They don't actually care.
Some of them are anti-semitic for sure.
There's a video out of UCLA of a guy wearing a Star of David outside trying to walk in and they bar him.
Now take a look at this video.
You have all of these people there, the far-leftists, wearing masks and gloves.
Pushing out a Jewish student, I don't know that they're pushing him out because he's Jewish, I think they're just removing him for resisting.
He links arms with this guy, and I think these two guys, actually I don't know if that guy is friends with him or not, but he's trying to stop them from removing him as he tries to stand in front of the door.
They just physically remove him.
I gotta say, look man, This video is really, really frustrating for me, because this guy here in the collared shirt, who they're physically removing, doesn't do anything to defend himself.
They're physically attacking you.
And I'm sorry, if you let far-left extremists physically attack you and you do nothing, then this is it.
This is what you get.
Now, I don't know if the other guy is friends with him or not, he seems to be smirking, but when they pull him out, someone else in the crowd mentions there's another guy there who's friends with them.
Look man, you gotta defend yourself, and there are ways to do it without hurting someone else, but I gotta be honest, I think many of you watching this probably know even better than me.
If someone is physically grabbing you and pushing you, there are things you can do, right, I'm not going to give anybody advice, that will stop them from doing it without causing permanent harm or damage to them.
That is to say, basic self-defense techniques you need to understand to stop your, like, I mean, this is a violent mob attacking a student.
That's wild for me to watch, dude.
I'm sorry.
I am just infuriated by this, and I feel bad for this dude.
I can respect that I do.
He doesn't want to get into a fight.
They might stomp him out.
They might kill him.
I would not be surprised.
And you know, the far left is going to say, oh that would never happen.
Dude, What happens is, it's a snowflake in an avalanche.
You watch these videos where, like, that teenage girl gets her head bashed in the ground.
No single person decides to commit a murder.
It starts like this, and I can understand why this guy maybe just said, you know, okay, puts his hands up and they push him out.
Because if he does try to stop one person, someone else escalates, then there's a scuffle and confusion, so everyone starts escalating, then someone runs up and kicks him in the head, someone runs up and kicks him in the stomach, and that's how you get killed by a mob.
Although, I gotta be honest, I'm not going to let them do that to me.
And, you know, you need only watch the Tucker Carlson segment I had where I was standing, I was in Boston, and some Antifa guy started swinging at me and I just stood there.
And for this, refusing to back down, I told the guy, do it.
Tucker Carlson had me on his show to talk about it.
But this is what's happening.
And I say, this is terrorism.
Take a look at this video.
This guy... Oh, man.
This stuff makes my blood boil.
A man with a metal hammer, smashing his way through the windows to break into Hamilton Hall.
Maybe they're taking the building back, it appears.
Oh, Defender.
Pro Hamas rioters have now broken into the Hamilton building on the Columbia University campus in New York and have begun to reinforce and barricade the entrances as well as exits to the building using classroom furniture and police barriers.
So they are inside.
I don't know if this is a cop or a protester who's doing this.
It's a bike lock, so... Actually, I think that might be a protester.
It's hard to know for sure.
Now, what's going on at other universities?
I'm going to say this.
Police should go in and physically remove all of the protesters.
The police should do it.
That's what they said they were going to do.
They should.
I'll tell you why.
First, I have absolutely no problem.
We had a great question on the TimCast members show last night, the call-in show we do.
Become a member at TimCast.com.
We have a call-in show where you can call and talk to us and our guests.
And someone said, the question was, We talk about these universal rights, but now here we are arguing or questioning whether or not someone is deserving of these rights when it comes to the far left and all that.
Let's entertain the moral philosophies here.
Let's discuss them.
I will not defend the free speech of people who do not believe in free speech.
The far left here have physically attacked students.
You saw the video where they pushed out.
Look, I'm not going to pretend like they're beating him, but it is a physical assault on someone to grab him and throw them out.
For why?
For what?
So, he wants to have his speech.
They won't let him.
Then I will not protect theirs.
If you believe in free speech and say, let's say you're a Muslim communist who believes there should be free speech, and you are protesting, and someone walks up and they start saying, you shouldn't be allowed to do this, and that person says, let's debate then.
Let's argue.
Everyone hear it.
I say, okay, stop.
Do not push that.
These are people who agree with the marketplace of ideas, the sharing of ideas, the challenging of ideas.
Let them speak.
These far leftists use physical force and violence against anyone who opposes them.
So I have absolutely no problem whatsoever with the police coming in and making arrests, however they see fit.
Now the Democrats and whoever else can claim it's anti-Semitic and all of that stuff, and some of it is, I get that, I don't care.
I'm not going to defend these people.
For which the question arises, but what about their free speech rights, Tim?
Your rights can be curtailed through due process.
There are mechanisms by which we as a liberal society decide you have now forfeited your rights.
How about the most egregious?
We have the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, right?
Well, in this country, whether I or anyone else likes it, because I'm not a fan of the death penalty, you actually forfeit your right to life.
In certain circumstances, a crime could be so egregious that a jury and a judge determine the death penalty is appropriate.
Meaning, we as a liberal society have decided you have forfeited your ultimate right, your right to life.
Now what about liberty, your right to liberty?
And the pursuit of happiness?
Yeah, you commit a crime, we lock you in a box.
So these people do not get infinite rights under all circumstances.
The moment they shut down other people and use violence, they have given up their right to free speech.
And I say, police, send them in.
There's a statement from Florida University.
Chris Ruffo tweeted out, Perfect statement from the University of Florida on arresting protesters.
UF is not a daycare, and we do not treat protesters like children.
They knew the rules, they broke the rules, and they'll face the consequences.
This is the Florida way.
University of Florida says, Dear Media Partners, In response to the arrests made of protesters this evening at the University of Florida campus, below is a statement that is attributed to UF spokesman Steve Orlando.
Quote, this is not complicated.
The University of Florida is not a daycare.
We do not treat protesters like children.
They knew the rules, they broke the rules, and they'll face the consequences.
For many days, we have patiently told protesters, many of whom are outside agitators,
that they were able to exercise their right to free speech and free assembly.
And we told them that clearly prohibited activities would result in trespassing orders
from UPD, barring them from all university properties for three years.
Today, individuals who refused to comply were arrested after UPD gave multiple warnings and multiple opportunities
to comply.
Good.
Columbia suspended many students.
They should expel them all.
No refunds.
What you paid, you lose. Pay back your student loans.
Good luck.
That's the way it should go.
We have this from Tenet Media.
This is funny to me.
Utah, of all places.
Palestine encampment turned unlawful and arrests made.
This is funny to me.
Utah, of all places, over 200 plus protesters at the newly set up pro-Palestine encampment
at Utah, 50 police officers on scene, more tents were being set up.
Chalk writing on the sidewalk says, if you're a cop, quit your job.
Rip Aaron Bushnell.
Bonk Cops it says.
Wow.
F-Cops.
Love Rage Liberation with a Molotov cocktail on it.
Professors are in negotiation with the campus currently.
Police are expected to come in and tear the encampment down.
We've got Tyler Hansen on the scene.
And then we have this one, protesters chanting, Intifada Revolution!
Oh, I'd like to talk to you guys about Intifada.
I love this.
I think it was the New York Times, I'm not sure, so forgive me, New York Times, if I got this wrong.
But there was a mainstream press outlet that said, Intifada being chanted, which is the Arabic word for uprising, meaning protest to resist Israel.
Yeah, anybody who actually paid attention to what Intifada is, I got a list for you.
I'll show you.
From the river to the sea.
Here we go, 200 plus pro-Palestine protesters forming a human chain to prevent the arrests.
The police make the declaration, begin gearing up, counter-protesters are seen, and it looks like the police then began, seven hours ago, removing the encampment, and there it is.
Cops moving in to clear this out, as they should.
I think it's high time we don't tolerate any of this stuff.
Don't care.
All the Israel Derangement Syndrome people are going to be like, too psychic for Israel.
These are communists.
They're not anti-Israel.
They're saying anti-Israel things to pander to people who don't like Israel, but they're just communists setting up the People's University.
That was it right there for me.
I'm like, okay, I'm done with this, right?
They have no credibility.
They're not protesting Israel.
They couldn't tell you anything about the history of the region.
They couldn't tell you anything about the conflicts, the wars, and the genocides that are currently going on.
This is flavor of the month, leftist garbage.
And you're allowed, you're allowed to protest all of your stupid opinions.
I got no beef.
I certainly got stupid opinions, I'm sure.
And I'd like to be able to protest them too.
But these people use physical force and violence against other people to prevent them from speaking.
So, so be it.
You're done.
You're out.
Jewish professor, this is Shai Davodai.
He gives a speech, and I'm going to play a little bit of it.
It's not so much that I support this professor, although I think it would be interesting.
Maybe we'll reach out and see if he would be interested in coming on the Culture War podcast to talk all about this.
But I want you to hear a little bit of what he has to say.
unidentified
In America, who sent their kids to NYU, to Harvard, to Stanford, to Berkeley.
And I want you to know one thing.
We cannot protect your child against pro-terror student organizations.
Because the president of Harvard University, because the president of Stanford, because the president of Berkeley, they will not speak out against pro-terror student organizations.
My name is Shai Davidai.
I am a professor at Columbia Business School.
I am Israeli.
But before all of that, I am a dad.
I have two beautiful children.
And I'm talking to you, I'm speaking to you as a dad.
Last Saturday, 14 U.S.
citizens were kidnapped into Gaza.
With 200 other Israeli, French, German, and other nationalities.
And none of the presidents of universities all around the country are willing to take a stand.
This is what cowards do.
And I'll name it now.
President Minouche Shafik of Columbia University, you are a coward!
So here's what I have to say and why I wanted you to hear that.
The presidents of these universities.
Students are being indoctrinated into far-left racist ideology.
There is a hidden and deep anti-Semitism within this ideology, and I'm not talking about Israel.
I'm talking about the Women's March, for instance, where the organizers actually—and this was an amazing exposé in Tablet magazine, this was from like six years ago—sat a woman down and explained to her all of these insane anti-Semitic conspiracy theories.
Someone commented on IRL and they're like, how come Jews have a special word for discrimination against them?
I'm like, what tons of groups do.
What do you mean, like, transphobia, homophobia?
These people at the Women's March were making claims saying, like, all the stuff they always do.
Blaming Jews for inflation.
Weird.
Blaming them for all the world's wars and the slave trade and all of these things because they are deeply anti-Semitic and it is weird and insane.
This is what I didn't like.
Remember Kanye came on the show?
And he wasn't having it.
And he was like, he kept saying, who is they though?
And I'm like, dude, I don't know why you conflate the ideology of an individual with their race.
It doesn't make sense.
Or their ethnicity.
It doesn't make sense.
And his point is like, all of these people in Hollywood and the record label, they're all Jewish.
And I'm like, and?
And the people running the big banks are Irish.
That was really funny.
We ended up pulling up the CEOs of all these banks and they have like, it's like, they're Irish people.
I'm like, dude, I don't care.
That's not the issue.
Like, this guy's Israeli, David Shai Davidi.
I don't see him commanding the IDF.
I don't care.
It's about people, it's about individuals.
And collectives matter too.
But I'm not gonna say all college students, who are the ones protesting, it's college students, therefore all college students must be banned.
No, it's the far left crackpots.
But they're college students, I get it.
But most college students have nothing to do with this.
That's what I can't stand about the, it's first order thinkers, single layer thinkers.
They're like, this person here is, insert quality, therefore all.
And it's just like, dude, I'm just so over that.
That's what the far left teaches.
Insane, racist, and y'all foment it?
I don't know about this guy, he's a business school teacher, but he had made comments in the past about, like, defunding the police or something.
Let it be a wake-up call to all these people.
Let it be a wake-up call about what this means when you vote.
Oh, here we go, President Biden, let's hear what he has to say.
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President Minouche Shafik of Columbia University, you are a coward!
Because if President Biden can come up and say, no, this is unacceptable, this is inhumane.
Joe Biden had his very fine people moment, they call it, when he said, I condemn the anti-Semitism and I also condemn people who don't know what's going on in Palestine.
Let's, maybe I can go back here, and timeline of the Intifada, there was the first Intifada, the second Intifada, and an Intifada is a rebellion or uprising.
As it pertains to Palestine, it means the shaking off, the tremor, the shivering, the shuddering.
And so what does that translate into?
It translates into, here's a list of Palestinian suicide attacks, and largely targeting civilians.
It's Hamas.
Hamas enjoys overwhelming support in Gaza.
And here's a list of all the attacks.
And take a look at this.
In 1997, there's 6.
There's 5.
Sorry, 5.
1998, there's 2.
there's six, there's five, sorry five.
Nineteen eight, there's two.
Now take a look at 2001, a massive expansion.
Into the 2000s, terror attacks had started skyrocketing.
And they've gone down a bit.
You can see there's a bit less, for sure.
This is Intifada.
Mass shootings, people being killed.
Now, I'm not highlighting this to say they're all bad and wrong and I'm taking a side in this conflict and Israel, all the poor victims.
It's a war.
Israel is bombing Gaza.
Gaza, Palestine, and Hamas are attacking Israel.
My point is only to say, while you may be critical of everything that Israel does when it comes to bombing areas with civilians and all of that stuff, Yep.
Because Gaza is all these, you know, civilians intermixed with Hamas fighters.
So, that's what you get in war.
My point is, when they say intifada, they are saying, keep the war going.
That's what they're saying.
Whether they intend to or not.
Well, you reap what you sow, everybody.
The universities will now have to deal with what they fomented.
And this professor, like, shy?
Vote Trump, I guess.
At least he'll support Israel wholeheartedly.
He said stop the protests.
How about that?
Trump's right.
Look at what happened.
Look at what they're doing.
You want to wave a flag, you want to protest, you want to march?
Fine.
But physically removing people?
That's an assault.
You can't do that.
Smashing windows, taking over buildings?
You can't do that.
They crossed the line.
Well, good luck to all the people who have defended them and now get to reap what they have sown.
I'll leave it there.
Next segment's coming up at 1 p.m.
on this channel.
Thanks for hanging out, and I'll see you all then.
I'd like to tell you why West Virginia is so based.
The first thing is called constitutional carry.
I love constitutional carry.
Here in West Virginia, I can defend myself.
The state recognizes the rights of individuals to be free from harm, the need to protect yourself from bad people.
I respect it.
Now take a look at this story, and I'll tell you once again why West Virginia is so great.
Middle schoolers who protested trans athletes' participation are banned from future competitions.
And this took place in West Virginia.
But you may be saying, Tim!
How could West Virginia be so great if they would do it to these young girls who said, I will not compete against males?
Because the AG immediately stood up on behalf of these young girls and filed a lawsuit challenging the Harrison County Board of Education.
You see, not everywhere in West Virginia is perfect.
It's only 86% Trump-supporting.
In the Eastern Panhandle, it gets pretty close to 50-50.
But when you have a great AG like Patrick Morrissey, and nobody's perfect, but I've met him, I've talked with him, and he makes these moves, he understands what we care about here in the state and why people like me are here.
And I respect the people of West Virginia enough to say, I'm not going to tell them how to live their lives.
I'm going to say, I come here because y'all are doing something right, and I want to help out.
But I'm not going to change what you guys want to do.
I defer to you.
The last thing I want to do is come in as some big city slicker and say something like, wow, West Virginia sure did something good, let me influence its politics in the way that I want it to be.
Nah, whatever they were doing seems to have worked out pretty well, so I'm here to support what the people of West Virginia are looking for, and this is what they're looking for.
And so when we're in agreement, we're in agreement.
Take a look at this.
Five West Virginia middle schoolers who protested a transgender athlete's participation in a track and field competition have been barred from future meets, prompting the State Attorney General to ask the U.S.
Supreme Court to weigh in on transgender student-athlete bans for a second time.
West Virginia Attorney General Patrick Morrisey filed a lawsuit against the Harrison County Board of Education on the dissenting student's behalf after they were blocked from upcoming meets following their protests at the April 18th Shot Put competition.
West Virginia Watch reported five girls from Lincoln Middle School stepped up to the circle
for their turn before refusing to throw in the event, which was won by Becky Pepper Jackson,
a 13 year old girl who takes puberty blocking medications and estrogen hormone therapy.
Now, let's hold on there a minute.
Girl?
What is this?
Trans girl?
That's fine.
I got no beef.
I don't think a biological male should be competing against females.
But here you have it.
And apparently, the biological male actually won handily.
Handily.
While West Virginia law bans transgender girls from playing on girls' sports teams, a recent federal appeals court ruled the law couldn't lawfully be applied to the 8th grader.
Judge Toby Haytens wrote that offering her a choice between not participating in sports and participating on only boys teams is no real choice at all.
What?
If you're male, you play against males.
If you're female, against female.
This is the funny thing, okay?
And I pointed this out a long time ago.
We do not have women's sporting events and teams because sometimes people wear dresses.
They are intended to segregate male and female for their biological differences.
That's it.
And now because of this argument about wearing a dress or not, they're saying, nah, if you identify as someone who wears a dress, you compete against females?
Well then, none of this makes sense.
So I support these young girls who refuse to compete.
Despite the ruling, Morrissey had rallied against both the ruling and the treatment of the student-athletes who protested competing against Becky.
Quote, "...their actions at the earlier track meet were not disruptive or aggrandizing.
They were the quiet demonstration of the student-athletes' evident unhappiness with the competitive consequences of a federal appellate court's decision," Morrissey, a Republican currently primarying for governor, wrote in the amicus brief filed April 26.
Joined by one of Becky's classmates on Wednesday, Morrissey said he plans to ask the U.S.
Supreme Court to hear the case involving the state's restrictions on transgender student-athletes for a second time.
Former CollegeHit swimmer turned activist Riley Gaines, who was an outspoken critic of trans athletes' participation in
girls' sporting events, has weighed in on the issue, writing,
"'These girls stood up for what they believed in, and their coach barred them from competing insane.'"
In a post on Axe on Monday.
And I think I can help.
message, noting he plans to do everything in my power to defend these brave young girls.
This is just wrong. We must stand up for what is right and oppose these radical trans policies.
Thanks to Riley Gaines for her leadership on this critical issue.
And I warned many people about what was coming to West Virginia.
And I think I can help, but it's mostly about the people of West Virginia want.
So we're here in Martinsburg, West Virginia, with our new Casper location.
And last year, they had a drag performance next to our building with children on stage.
And I take great offense to that.
It is a violation of West Virginia law, unquestionably.
There are numerous laws that bar this activity.
Numerous.
I gotta be honest, some of them I don't agree with.
It's illegal to cohabitate in West Virginia.
Yeah, no, seriously.
If, like, in West Virginia, if you're not married, and you're living together, uh-oh!
Yeah, but come on.
See, nobody takes these laws seriously, which is why culture is so much more important.
And that's where we're at.
In West Virginia, while I would say, based on the moral values of the people who live in these areas, and the people of the state, it is illegal, culturally and statutorily, they still do it, because there's no culture for enforcing it.
And that's where I think things need to change.
Now, when we were setting up in Martinsburg, and we saw what was going on with these child drag shows, we actually were thinking of just getting out and saying, no way.
Charlestown, West Virginia.
There's Charlestown and Charlestown, very far from each other.
Charlestown, eastern Panhandle, very close to D.C., about an hour or so drive.
And it's a very conservative area.
They have a Latin mass.
And the city council is progressive.
Why?
Conservatives don't vote.
They don't vote.
That's a scary prospect.
They let these far leftists come in and do these things.
And this is where we are.
You may think you're in MAGA country.
You talk to everybody on the street.
You walk up to a random person along the street and say, Trump!
Or Biden.
They're gonna say Trump!
Don't get me wrong, there's a guy in Charlestown who holds up a big sign saying Trump sucks or whatever all the time.
Props to that guy, he's allowed to do it.
But for the most part, the people in these cities and in this area, they're not Biden supporters.
Although maybe if you go up to like Shepherdstown where the university is, you might find a bit more Biden people.
How is it happening that they're moving in and taking power like this?
Conservatives don't vote.
Sorry, they don't.
I was talking to a city council member in Charlestown.
I said, how is this happening?
That the city proclaimed June Pride Month or something like this.
Excuse me.
And he said, they don't vote!
All of these people live in the city are complaining about it, but they won't vote!
But the activists, the leftists, it's all they do.
Massively.
They show up, they turn out, they vote.
It's time to make these changes.
So instead of abandoning Martinsburg, West Virginia, where we're setting up our cafe, We talked to some of the locals, the generational businesses in the area, and what we found is the same thing.
Many of them are angry at the Pride events that are happening there.
Most people are fairly libertarian, classically liberal in many ways, conservative in a lot of ways, but the people of West Virginia are, look, you want to have a Pride event?
I don't care.
What I'm concerned about is the child drag shows and the pushing this over the line and getting into grooming territory.
I don't want that anymore.
I don't care if you have a pride event, a parade, all that stuff.
That's fine.
I don't care if you play a game of cornhole and people are throwing beanbags and they're hula hooping and they got flags and they're waving them.
Totally fine by me.
There are a lot of protests I don't agree with, but so long as I can have my free speech, you can have yours.
But when they bring kids on stage for these events, that's where it's like, OK, look, this is gay burlesque.
That is not meant to be derogatory.
It's descriptive.
It is homosexual burlesque shows.
Burlesque shows are not appropriate for children or in the public and the law forbids it.
All right.
Go into the into the private building and sell tickets.
Eighteen plus.
I got no problem with that.
Just basically across the street from where our event is, there's a theater, and they had a drag show, all ages.
And I said, look, I don't care if you want to do burlesque, gay burlesque, I don't care if you want to have a stripper there.
It's restricted to adults only.
We don't bring kids into these environments.
But for some reason, they're starting to allow this.
So we're here to stand up for West Virginia.
I am, at least.
And I'm going to say this.
I talked to the locals.
And I said, I don't want to come into this place and tell you guys how to live your lives.
I've got money.
I've got resources.
Certainly, if I came here and started buying things and changing things, I could.
Y'all might get mad.
What do we find?
The generational businesses, the people who are like the children, the grandchildren of those who lived in this town, are worried, and in the surrounding areas.
They're saying, as the economy slips, industry fails, businesses close, young people move here because it's cheap, and they bring with them these ideas that are replacing and supplanting our values, and it's becoming harder and harder for us to resist because our town is struggling.
And I said, okay, so what I'll do is, we'll support your businesses, we'll bring the jobs back, I personally oppose these things, and then we'll see where we end up.
People are cheering for it.
They're hoping that we do more, and they're hoping that we expand.
They're hoping that there's gonna be freedom, fun, love, peace, happiness.
Like I said, have your pride parade, I don't care.
Just keep the, don't do burlesque shows in public!
You want to have people who are smiling and waving their pride flags?
I got no problem with that.
I disagree with the politics of it, but I agree with the classically liberal, we're going to be free speech, right?
These pride events and these people here in Martinsburg have not attacked me or insulted me or told me I can't be here or told me I can't speak, so I will defend their right to free speech, same as everybody else's.
Just don't bring the kids on stage for a burlesque show.
That's where I'm saying, I'm drawing the line there, dude.
I'm drawing the line.
Now let me tell you about West Virginia.
MAGA country.
Shout out to these middle schoolers.
But this is a fight with the federal government.
These schools should be ashamed of themselves.
They should be defending these young students.
It is an ideological push from this judge to claim a male must compete on a female team.
Because it's no choice at all if he goes on the male team.
What do you mean it's no choice?
Why?
No honest question.
Why?
Is it because he'd lose?
They'd lose?
Whatever the pronouns are?
Well, is it because they'll win against the girls?
Unacceptable.
Shout out to A.G.
Morrissey for filing this lawsuit, knowing what the people of West Virginia care about.
But it's going to be up to the people of West Virginia to make those votes!
Now the challenge is, I don't want to tell you who to vote for.
Like I said, I don't want to come to West Virginia and throw my weight around anything like this.
I can tell you this.
Riley Moore, who's running for Congress in our district, and who's actually landed a kickflip in the Booney Skate Park!
He's our friend.
We've known him from before he was even running for office.
Well, he was a treasurer, but we've been friends with him, I've been friends with him, before he was even running for Congress.
And so he comes, he hangs out, skates sometimes, rarely, a couple times, and he's always welcome too.
He's a great guy.
I want to see him win.
That's me personally.
I hope he does.
Looks like he will.
He's a good dude.
When it comes to the governorship, That's interesting, because Patrick Morrissey is running in the primary, and then you also have Moore Capito.
I believe he's the son of Shelley Moore Capito, the senator who had invoked the ire of I and many others for supporting red flag law funding at the federal level.
I'm not going to tell you to vote for him.
Riley Moore seems like he's going to win anyway, so that one's an easy one for me.
He's like my friend.
He's probably the only elected official.
No, that's not true.
I got to stop.
Mikey Taylor, one of the best skateboarders ever, is, I believe he's a Republican Councilman in California, like Thousand Oaks, something like that.
Shout out.
He can do it.
He's one of the best skateboarders ever.
When Riley wins, he may be the only member of Congress capable of doing a 360 flip.
So I'm a fan.
I'm a fan.
I want to see him win.
As for the governor, I don't know.
Morrissey's great.
I'm not going to tell you people in West Virginia who to vote for.
I don't know.
I just hope, I hope, that the people who care about what's happening here choose the person they believe will actually push back on this encroachment of far-left ideology.
I'll leave it there.
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Thanks for hanging out, and I'll see you all then.
A reality TV show back in 2003.
It was all one big joke meant to shock the world, insult trans people, and insult the people who were contestants on the show.
And this story is actually absolutely insane.
Miriam Rivera.
Oh, there's a lot to break down on this.
A transgender woman.
The men didn't know.
They thought it was a dating show.
And then on TV, this individual announced that they were actually a man.
The words they chose to use.
And it resulted in absolute chaos.
Apparently one guy was smashing up the set.
One guy was saying he was going to destroy his career.
People were furious.
And I'm going to go ahead and say this.
I would call it sexual assault.
They filmed this show where this guy is, like, all these people are trying to date Miriam, win a dating reality contest.
Come on, we know how those shows work.
But the gag was that no one knew it was a male that they were hooking up with.
A person, this transgender Miriam Rivera, actually said they were a man.
Their words.
I think that's sexual assault.
To deceive someone into engaging in sexual activity with another person they normally would not do, I would say it's sexual assault.
It's a fine line.
But there are a lot of guys who lie about their careers and their jobs, and I think that gets close to it.
But I don't know.
I'm not a lawyer, right?
The argument would then be, if a guy's at a club and claims he's a millionaire to convince someone to go back with him, and he lied about everything, I think there's something in there, fraudulent, to manipulate people.
I don't know how you deal with this, though.
What I would say is there is a big difference between tricking someone into engaging in adult activities with someone they're not, you know, with the opposite or the same sex.
Imagine if there was, like, a lesbian woman and they did something like this.
Like, it's just not okay.
Let me read for you this story.
This is crazy.
And there's a new documentary coming out in the UK about it, Sky TV.
They say this is the moment that Sky's cruel dating show came crashing down as six male contestants were told they'd secretly been dating a transgender woman for weeks.
The 2003 Sky 1 British reality series, there's something about Miriam.
Let me play the clip for you, you can hear for yourself.
They say the punchline of the show was an incredibly cruel one.
After Miriam chose her winner, she told the unsuspecting contestants that she was a transgender woman who had not undergone gender-affirming surgery.
New Channel 4 series Miriam, Death of a Reality Star, explores the consequences of the producers' decision to exploit the boys and Miriam's identity for shock value.
The second episode of the show, titled The Truth, airs on Tuesday night, and shows the moment the producers had been waiting for, when winner Tom Rook was finally told the truth.
But the naive producers had underestimated the sheer anger of the boys when they realized they'd been lied to and the emotional damage it would go on to cause.
After choosing Tom, then 23, as her winner, Miriam told the boys, I tried to be honest with all of you as much as I can.
Yes, I'm from Mexico.
I'm a model.
I'm 21.
She says, but Tom, I really love spending time with you.
I love men.
I love being a woman.
But I'm not a woman.
I was born as a man.
That's the, that's the, that's his words.
I'm gonna say this right now.
If you say, I'm not a woman, I was born a man, your pronouns are he, him, his.
There you go.
His words, which friends believe were scripted by the TV crew, were initially met with laughter from the five other boys and pure shock from Tom.
In the reality show, described as the most explosive dating experience of a lifetime, Tom had grown close to Miriam and even been filmed getting intimate with him and kissing him passionately.
He was left speechless, but he couldn't contain his shock as his eyebrows raised in disbelief and he began uncomfortably scratching the back of his head.
Here is a male Who was tricked by the show and this trans person into engaging in adult sexual activity with a biological male.
Kinda rapey.
He was left speechless right to the back of his head.
Crew member Leo McCrea recalled in the documentary, it was so incredibly uncomfortable, it felt like all the air had been sucked out of the room.
And Tom, he was gasping and looking around at all the deceit.
They say, although Tom initially said he'd still go on the yacht trip because we're all good friends here, a behind-the-scenes interview revealed his true thoughts.
He said, I'm very shocked, and I wouldn't want to spend a week on a boat with someone I didn't trust and deceived me.
I was being honest in that house, and he wasn't.
He was lying to everyone, and he doesn't have that right.
Now, I'm going to stress this.
It says, in brackets, speaking about Miriam, Miriam said on the show, I am not a woman.
I was born a man.
I don't know why Daily Mail is still using she-her pronouns if the person identifies as not a woman, as being born a man.
If they said, I am a woman, but I was born a man, I'd understand them making the pronoun argument.
But this person basically said they're not a woman.
They literally said it.
Why is anyone having the pronoun argument?
After the initial shock, the boys grew angry.
Former contestant Toby Green recalled that runner-up Scott Gibson went berserk.
Things began to spiral out of control.
A martial arts instructor, he began to smash the set, and even chased the director around the pool.
When psychiatrist Dr. Gareth Smith spoke to the boys to try to calm them down, they chillingly blamed Miriam, one person saying that they were going to kill her.
Tom, who was an actor, was worried about how the show would affect his career, saying, I can't be a gay actor.
The producers had employed a series of underhanded tactics to deceive them, including offering them an indecipherable contract, deliberately avoiding the use of pronouns, and even eliminating contestants if they began to suspect the truth.
As a result, the boys were furious.
The contestants were flown back to London, where they decided to launch an injunction to stop the show from being aired.
The men alleged conspiracy to commit sexual assault, defamation, breach of contract, and personal injury in the form of psychological and emotional damage.
They eventually settled for an undisclosed amount, and the show aired the following year.
The massive scandal reportedly cost Sky TV three quarters of a million pounds, according to claims in the documentary.
But the producers' naivety was also shown in their treatment of Miriam herself, who tragically passed away in 2019, which Mexican authorities held to be suicide.
Wow.
Although her husband said it was murder.
You know what, man?
That's what I was saying.
Look.
We have friends on the show who are trans.
I got no beef.
Live your life.
Be happy.
Try to survive.
Try to succeed.
I think we should protect children in this regard.
But people need to understand that what the left pushes, and especially stories like this.
This is not a left thing.
This is a capitalist thing.
This is somebody trying to make shock content with reckless disregard for people.
Dylan Mulvaney is no different than this.
Exploiting trans people, making it into a spectacle in a game for money.
Unlike the boys who had a psychiatrist brought for them, Miriam was given no support.
Her words after the finale was filmed.
Reveal just how vulnerable.
I can't say she for a person who says they're not a woman.
His words and how he was feeling at the time.
He said, I went back to the hotel and I was shaking from the experience.
I didn't know if they were going to punch me or attack me.
I wasn't out to hurt anyone's feelings.
No one in the crew would talk to me.
They were all my friends during filming and now they don't want to know me.
Maybe it's because you basically assaulted these guys and lied to them.
That's crazy.
Like, imagine you did a show where a guy raped somebody and then was like, I can't believe that they were so mad.
Dr. Smith was brought in to offer support for the boys reflected.
I had been brought in to ostensibly look after the boys.
No one had given thought to how Miriam might feel.
They reveal her coming out was to the world, and as far as I was aware, Miriam hadn't been psych tested.
How would he deal with the rejection?
Not just from who he picked, but everyone who thought trans people were freaks.
They sold him a dream without anybody telling him what could go wrong.
I thought, he's vulnerable, he's had a really hard life, like a bird with a broken wing.
I gotta be honest, they're using female pronouns for a person who said they're not a woman, so, I don't know, I don't, I, you know, whatever.
It's a quote, so maybe I should just read the quote.
But her father, Fernando Mendoza, never accepted his identity and even brought in a minister to the family to exorcise the demons from his body.
Left traumatized by the ordeal, Miriam fled home to Tijuana on the US-Mexico border, where he began working in a club.
Despite the fact that Miriam was clearly vulnerable, the TV executives who worked on their Something About Miriam continued to defend their decision in the Channel 4 documentary.
When asked, How she felt about the deception, production executive Joe Josen said, I didn't feel anything.
I'm in the business of making television shows.
I didn't feel anything about the format that I felt was bad or wrong.
I didn't feel that way.
I really didn't.
Do I think it went beyond any moral codes of conduct?
A documentary 21 years later breaking down how they did this.
And today, this debate is now mainstream.
It's fascinating.
They say that if you're a male, attracted to someone who looks female, you're straight.
But at the same time, when a guy who's a red pillar said, if you're attracted to a woman who's muscular and manly, you're gay, they said, no you're not.
You're straight.
They're basically saying there's no straight and gay.
Here's the reality of what I actually think is worth talking about in this story.
The exploitation for points.
Be it Dylan Mulvaney or these producers 21 years ago.