Trump Just Cleverly Announced HE IS RUNNING For 2024 Presidency, Elon Says DeSantis Would WIN
Trump Just Cleverly Announced HE IS RUNNING For 2024 Presidency, Elon Says DeSantis Would WIN. Trump literally said announcing would stop people from running implying heavily he is running.
Trump did not formally declare but said enough to confirm what everyone already knows, that he is running to be President in 2024. Meanwhile many have been championing Ron DeSantis instead.
The ideal for many would be Trump/DeSantis 2024 which would give DeSantis 4 years as VP and 8 as President.
On the Democrat side it looks like Gavin Newsom may be their candidate which means poop in the streets for all Americans.
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Donald Trump has just cleverly announced he will be running for president without legally declaring he's running for president, saying, I've made up my mind on what my announcement will be.
I just need to figure out if it's going to be before or after the midterms that I announced, because then some people wouldn't want to run because they'd lose to me, which is him, like, overtly saying he's running.
We'll talk about that and if he can beat Ron DeSantis or will they run together.
In our next story, it turns out a viral meme from the left about a little girl who was raped and had to go to Indiana for an abortion was true but was still, in essence, a hoax.
The little girl could have gotten treatment in Ohio, but for some reason chose not to and the doctors did not report the crime.
Why?
Probably for political impact.
In her last story, AOC says that there were police involved in January 6th and alludes to a potential inside job.
She outright says cops opened the door and she wants an investigation.
Meanwhile, people are obsessed with some stupid comment about her big booty instead of talking about something we all agree on.
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Now, let's get into that first story.
Donald Trump has cleverly just announced he will be running for president in 2024, and
it's so perfectly Trumpian.
New York Mag says Donald Trump on 2024.
I've already made that decision.
The only question left in the former president's mind is when he'll announce by Olivia Nuzzi.
You know, I don't respect this about Trump.
He panders to the corporate press who hate him, who lie about him, who smear him endlessly.
Now, he calls them the fake news.
You are fake news.
And we love it.
But then he goes and gives them the exclusives.
He gives them the interviews.
He props them up.
At any point during his presidency, he could have gotten off Twitter, jumped over to Gab Parler Minds or otherwise, and forced the media to go to those platforms.
But Donald Trump is still a man of pandering to the corporate press and the machine, like they're ever going to like him.
Now, he does rag on them, and I can give him that.
But then he does things like this.
In this article, they open by just ragging on him.
Trump could have given the exclusive to any number of right-wing, conservative, independent outlets.
Not necessarily Democrat or left or right, but just independent.
And he didn't.
He goes to New York mag, who hates him.
Now, it's very clever how he announced this.
We know he's going to be running.
He's been talking about his new 757.
He basically says that he's made his decision.
He's got to figure out when to announce, before or after the midterms, because if he announces before the midterms, then it may discourage people.
It's amazing how he's playing this game, but it's perfectly Trumpian.
At the same time, chatter has emerged about a potential rival, Ron DeSantis, and there are a lot of diehard Trumpers who are saying, no, DeSantis is a shill!
Here it comes, baby.
I wondered what the rift was going to be.
Trump supporters love Ron DeSantis.
But now, all of a sudden, we're starting to see people outright say, no way.
It is too good to be true.
Ron DeSantis, we don't know his foreign policy.
We don't even know most of his national policy.
We know his governorship policy for the state of Florida.
But we don't know who he will be and what he will end up doing.
Perhaps, they say, it is too good to be true.
That here's a guy who comes out whispering sweet nothings into our ears about the culture war.
Then you elect this guy and he turns out to be a neocon.
Turns out to, you know, he wants to invade the Middle East and get America back on track for all of that stuff that we hate.
That Donald Trump did put an end to.
The Abraham Accords were amazing on foreign policy.
Trump was fantastic on the economy.
But there are others, like our good friend Luke Rutkowski of We Are Change, who says Ron DeSantis saved this country.
You take a look at his COVID policy.
Yeah.
A lot of people think Ron DeSantis is the great leader.
The potential great leader we could have in a presidency.
Elon Musk said DeSantis wouldn't even have to run.
Well, it's not just about these guys.
We also got Joe Biden trying to shake hands with nothing.
Again.
I love it.
Now we've got Josh Hawley calling for an investigation into Biden allowing the sale of U.S.
strategic oil to China.
And for all of these reasons and more, Biden is tanking.
So what do the Democrats have to offer?
Oh, you're gonna love it.
Gavin Newsom of California!
That's right.
You have your choice between blowhard meme tweet Trump with a good economy and good foreign policy, culture warrior DeSantis with a good economy and we don't know where his foreign policy will be, or Governor Gavin Newsom and you will get poop all over your streets across the country.
Sorry, dude, look.
I'm not a staunch conservative, never have been, but I would rather Trump or DeSantis over anything the Democrats have to offer, at least right now.
Well, let's get into it.
I want to read you this story and show you how Donald Trump has basically just announced he's running for president.
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Here's the story from The Intelligencer.
They say, Donald Trump was impeached twice, lost the 2020 election by 7,052,770 votes, is entangled in investigations by federal prosecutors over the Capitol insurrection and over the mishandling of classified White House documents and over election interference, I can't do it.
They just keep going on and on and on.
I don't respect Trump for this.
The whole opening paragraph is just slapping Trump around.
District Attorney over financial fraud at the Trump Organization, and the New York State
Attorney General over financial fraud at the Trump Organization, and the Westchester County
District Attorney over financial fraud at the Trump Organization, and the Fulton County
Georgia District Attorney over criminal and violent interference.
I can't do it.
They just keep going on and on and on.
I don't respect Trump for this.
The whole opening paragraph is just slapping Trump around.
Dude, Trump.
Come on.
Make these announcements with Steven Crowder.
Like, you know, I could come out and say, come on TimCast IRL, say these things, I'd love to have you, and it would be great for our company and all that, but you don't have to.
Give it to Darren Beattie or Steven Crowder.
Give it to The Daily Wire.
Man, New York Mag?
Alright, they go on to say House Elect Committee and blah blah blah.
And here we go.
I love how journalists love to write novels instead of just telling us the news, but I present to you the novel.
It was a beautiful day in Bedminster, New Jersey, where former president maintains a golf club and private estate to which he decamps when the Palm Beach humidity and the habitats of snowbirds shut down Mar-a-Lago for Mother's Day to Labor Day summer season.
And it had been a beautiful weekend, too.
One, he said, affirmed the choice he had made about his own future, the future of the Republican Party, and whether he wins this time or if he loses as sorely as before, the future of the American experiment.
At a rally in Alaska on Saturday, he told me by phone his fans were adoring more love, in his words, than I've ever had before.
His voice was humming with excitement.
He was still in awe after all this time, after so many rallies, so many crowds, so many winding speeches.
Winding speeches?
And chants of, lock her up in USA and build that wall!
And the familiar sounds of Tiny Dancer and Memory from Cats.
A really great song, by the way.
I love that song.
And you can't always get what you want in YMCA and that goofy little dance and the delusion at that fervor so great that it build up to an attack at the Capitol and the democratic process at the center of the Republic itself.
The novelty of this had not faded.
See, this is why I just, I'm going to say it again.
Stop giving these people press.
Mr. President, please.
They never come out and say, the left in 529 and the attack at the White House.
They never come out and say it was wrong that the president was forced into an emergency bunker.
As for those songs, as someone who covered Donald Trump's first campaign in 2015 and 16, I was just tiny dancer all day and night and you can't always get what you want, just play it over and over again.
All right, all right.
So let's get to the gist of things.
A portion of the electorate blah blah blah.
Donald Trump says he's gonna win.
He says, look, I feel very confident that if I decide to run, I'll win.
I fixated on the if I decide.
Trump is less a politician than a live action mythological creature.
And so punditry and all of the standard forms of analysis tend to fail.
What would factor into such a decision for such an unusual person?
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Well, in my own mind, I've already made that decision.
So nothing factors in anymore.
In my own mind, I've already made that decision.
He wouldn't disclose what he decided.
Not at first.
But then he couldn't help himself.
Quote.
I would say my big decision will be whether I go before or after.
He said, you understand what that means?
End of quote.
Repeat the line.
I would say my big decision... I'm just kidding.
His tone was conspiratorial.
Was he referring to the midterm elections?
He repeated after me, midterms.
Suddenly he fixated, as though my speaking the word had somehow set it free for discussion.
Do I go before or after?
That will be my big decision.
He was thinking aloud now.
I just think there are a lot of certain assets to before.
Let people know.
I think a lot of people would not even run if I did that because if you look at the polls, they don't even register.
Most of these people... And I think that you would actually have a backlash against them if they ran.
People want me to run.
He insists he cares little about the other Republicans people may want to run and denies that he even considers Ron DeSantis a rival.
I don't feel that, he said.
I endorsed Ron.
He was at three.
And as soon as I endorsed him, he went to first place.
He was not going to win, then I stopped him.
Then, I stopped him.
The question was about the 2024 presidential primary.
I said, yeah, no, I meant when he ran for governor.
As you know, he was running, and then he came to me for an endorsement because he was not, you know, he was at 3% with his blessing, Trump said.
The race was over, and I think Ron knows that better than anybody.
We have a good relationship, and there may be some others soon, but that's okay.
He cited a recent poll that had him beating DeSantis by a margin of 58% to 10%.
Never content, Trump had overstated things slightly.
DeSantis was at 16, not 10 in the averages.
Meanwhile, he beats DeSantis 53 to 21 and Biden 43 to 41.
For weeks leading up to the 4th of July, there were rumors about an announcement.
But like so many things in Trump world, it's hard to know what was true.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Okay, okay.
Sure, sure, sure.
We get it.
We get it.
Trump made his statement.
I don't care to read more beyond this because they're writing a novel about what is quite simple.
Other outlets have picked up on the quote, simplified it.
Donald Trump says, I've made up my mind.
The question is whether to announce before or after the midterms.
And if I do before the midterms, some people might not even run because the polling shows they don't register.
He's literally saying, people won't run if I announce because I've already made up my mind about what I'm going to do.
And if I do announce it, some people won't run because they'll lose.
Trump announced he's running.
Okay.
You know what's going to happen.
Trump's gonna formally announce, then I'm gonna have to make another video being like, Trump formally announces he's running.
We get it.
He's running.
But I think he underestimates Ron DeSantis.
You know, look, I gotta tell you guys, there are a lot of people tweeting at me saying Ron DeSantis is a globalist shill and a bunch of other nonsense, and I'm like, dude, I don't buy that stuff.
I don't.
I don't trust him on foreign policy.
He may be a neocon.
And I say, maybe.
I don't know.
We were on TimCast IRL with Luke Rutkowski, and we talked about it.
And he was like, Ron DeSantis is great.
And I was like, yeah, but don't you—nope.
And I'm like, Luke, you hate everybody except for, like, Ron Paul.
And you like Ron DeSantis?
Maybe he just likes presidents named Ron, I guess.
No, I think DeSantis is a lot better than Trump for a lot of reasons.
And I break them down all the time.
Ron DeSantis, military experience.
For me, that's like the number one thing.
Said it about Tulsi Gabbard, and I'll say it about Ron DeSantis.
I genuinely believe military service is extremely important for a commander-in-chief.
Not just because you need to know how the machine works, but I believe that discipline comes with having served.
Not everybody, not all the time.
But I am biased in favor of people who have served.
I like Starship Trooper's service guarantees citizenship, right?
I'm not saying it's the absolute way to do things, it's always perfect.
I just think people who have decided to serve this country have learned some discipline, perhaps experienced some hard work.
There's a lot of things that are better about that.
Ron DeSantis did tremendous work with Florida during COVID.
Ron DeSantis is more tactful.
Ron DeSantis is tackling the culture war issues we want him to tackle.
So he's got it in spades.
Donald Trump also did really well.
Foreign policy was the most important thing to me, and Trump hit it out of the ballpark.
The Abraham Accords.
That was just like, man, I'm on the verge of tears hearing this stuff.
And they try and downplay it.
Middle Eastern countries signing deals with Israel?
And they were like, oh, so what?
Oh, it's meaningless.
You know, they were already doing deals.
I'm like, bro, planes can fly over each other now.
You understand what that means?
There was a fear they were going to bomb each other.
That's incredible.
I don't know if Ron DeSantis has that foreign policy.
And the bigger issue is, will Ron DeSantis clean house?
Will he fire the people who need to be fired?
They need to be fired.
But part of me just says, for a lot of practical reasons, Ron DeSantis is the pick for 2024.
And I got another reason.
And it's Lindsey Graham.
Lindsey Graham, who I don't trust at all, think he's a terrible politician, and I can't believe they elect him in South Carolina.
He reveals why he supports Trump instead of DeSantis as GOP's 2024 nominee.
The dude who fist-bumped Kamala Harris.
No, I don't trust this man.
And this right here.
What's going on?
What do we got going on here?
Lindsey Graham knows that most people don't like him.
So he says he supports Trump instead of DeSantis.
We playing 4-D chess here?
Is it because he secretly wants DeSantis, and he knows that by saying he's for Trump, people won't trust him, so they'll go for DeSantis?
Or is it double 4-D chess?
He actually wants Trump, so... Okay, let me read what he says.
He really does make some interesting points.
Lindsey Graham explained why he backs Trump rather than Ron DeSantis.
Lindsey Graham said, Look at what's going on at the border.
But I know what I'm getting with Trump, the good and the bad and everything in between.
Trump sounds pretty good to me right now. Gavin Newsom may be the only guy whom Biden is willing
to deport. Look at what's going on at the border. Biden's in the Middle East. Compare Biden to
Trump when it comes to the Mideast.
Biden's begging the Iranians to get back in a deal.
That's terrible for the Israelis and the Arabs.
Biden is going to go to East Jerusalem to undercut the Trump policy of making Jerusalem the undivided capital of Israel.
I've never seen a president tour the Mideast in a more weakened condition than Biden.
And I say that with sadness.
Trump looks pretty damn good to me when you look at the issues we're facing as a nation and the world.
Oh man, I gotta give it to Lindsey Graham.
He's right on foreign policy when it comes to Trump that DeSantis does not have.
And for me, that's one of the most important things.
Not kidding.
The amount of money we waste, the hypocrisy, the lies, the collateral damage and murder that come with the foreign policy we've seen in this country.
And Donald Trump, boy, did he clean up.
Shout out to former president for what may be one of the greatest historical feats of our lifetimes.
Donald Trump crossed into North Korea with no security detail and it is overlooked by everyone and they just don't understand it.
They said, so what?
He's pwning up the dictators and trying to be friends and I'm like, are you nuts?
North Korea He walked across the DMZ with no protection.
That to me was crazy.
It was brave.
It was serious.
It was mature.
I have tremendous respect for Donald Trump for having done that.
Everything else is meaningless.
The mean tweets, the fat pig comments, the horse face.
I don't care.
To enter into hostile territory in a sign of trust With a hostile foreign leader is one of the most powerful moves towards peace that we've seen any president willing to do for a long time.
And I love it.
I absolutely love it.
So we'll see.
I don't know that Ron DeSantis has it.
And it's just that I don't know.
That's all it really is.
I mean, maybe he does.
I respect his military experience and his tact and his position domestically.
I look forward to the primary.
Elon Musk doubled down on his support for Ron DeSantis, saying he doesn't even need to campaign.
If DeSantis runs against Biden in 2024, then DeSantis will easily win, he said.
Trump would be 82 at the end of his term, which is too old to be chief executive of anything, let alone the U.S., Musk tweeted.
Okay, well that's not going to happen.
Now they're going at each other and it is quite hilarious and I think it's funny.
But I think Elon Musk is correct about Ron DeSantis.
I think Trump is a liability.
I really do.
Everything I can say about Trump being great, it's true.
He may be the greatest or one of the greatest, if not the greatest presidents of our generation.
And I'll tell you absolutely why.
I'm not going to blame him or Biden for COVID.
I'll blame Biden for a lot of things that he's chosen to do.
I'll blame Trump for some of the things he's chosen to do.
Like when he goes and gives these interviews to the media and then he gets backstabbed or hiring John Bolton.
But Donald Trump told me in 2015 he's going to get our troops out of the Middle East.
And I didn't believe him.
I didn't believe him because I believed Obama not playing that game.
And then I saw what he did.
And he did it!
He started working towards that.
That was one of the most important things to me.
You know, look, I'm a realist.
I'm not an idiot.
I understand there are stupid people in this world.
I understand the ideas behind the authoritarian globalist push, where they're like, we need to guide... I just think they're wrong.
They think they're smarter than you.
They're wrong.
I understand why we engage in the world stage in the way we do.
But I just think we have failed miserably at so much of this when it comes to foreign policy.
And the United States have not justified what they've been doing.
Obama killed an American citizen without charge or trial.
And so along comes a Donald Trump and he says, we got to get our troops out of the Middle East.
And I say, OK, do it.
I would love to see Afghanistan like South Korea.
Uh, just generations go by and it is, it has become an educated, uh, it's become more educated, a technological, uh, technological development city, like, like, I'm at a loss for words, but a city in a culture that sees the rapid development of technology much like South Korea does with Samsung.
There you go.
Got it out.
I'd love to see something like that.
I just don't believe that's what we were doing with nation building.
And so at a certain point, I said, we're done, aren't we?
And Donald Trump said, yes.
I don't know what we're doing here or why.
And I think it was the right move.
I think he did so much that is so good.
But here's where we're at right now.
The media's effectively brainwashed people.
They used me in January 6th to lie, to smear, and it's weird why they even included me, because I didn't even say anything to add to their narrative.
They just want to cause damage to me, I guess?
Congratulations, Raskin, on your speech and clause, uh, what is it, speech and debate clause.
His office is relatively close to me, and I'm planning on, uh, popping down to his office for a conversation.
Raskin represents Maryland's 8th Congressional District, which many of my employees live in.
And so I am deeply offended that he would come after my company this way and lie and smear and cause economic damage when some of the people who work for me are his constituents.
But anyway.
The poisoning of the well.
There's a lot of things that Donald Trump did wrong.
There's a lot of things he could have done better.
Ron DeSantis does those things better.
If Ron DeSantis were to run, it cripples the machine on the left.
They have no real way to go up against him.
They'll lie, they'll cheat, they'll smear him.
Of course they will.
They're already saying, he's worse than Trump!
Keep trying, keep lying.
But I think he's younger, more of sound mind, and I think there's a lot of reasons why Elon is correct.
From NPR, Ron DeSantis takes aim, Governor DeSantis, at what he sees as indoctrination in schools.
This is from yesterday morning.
Yeah, he's doing right by our kids.
And this is important.
Because if you want to win 10 years, 20 years, 30 years down the line, you need to win the hearts and minds of the younger generation.
You need to protect children.
That's why the left is going so heavily after these schools.
Why won't Trump go after these culture war issues?
We don't know.
Why did he hire John Bolton?
Well, ladies and gentlemen, let me tell you what's happening to this country.
The Great Realignment.
Axios shows a wrench with a red and a blue side.
Weird picture, I guess.
The big picture.
And this is powerful stuff.
Republicans are becoming more working class and a little more multiracial.
Democrats are becoming more elite and more white.
Incredible.
Democrats' hopes for retaining power rest on the non-white voters remaining a reliable part of the party's coalition.
Democrats' theory of the case collapses if Republicans make ever-incremental gains with voters.
I wrote a long time ago, I covered this, that if the Democrats saw their support in the black community go under 80%, they cannot win, period.
We're there.
We're there.
Joe Biden's support among the black community is in the gutter.
Now, it's still tremendous, but relative to where it should be for a Democrat, times are changing.
They say, even small inroads with Hispanic voters could tip a number of Democratic-held swing seats to the GOP.
Democrats are statistically tied with Republicans among Hispanics on the generic congressional ballot, according to a New York Times-Siena College poll out this week.
Dems held a 47-point edge with Hispanics during the 2018 midterms.
An NBC News poll in April found Democrats held a 38-point lead among women with college degrees, up from 10 points from 2010.
Democrats lost ground with nearly every other demographic tested in the survey.
I want to say that again.
NBC News in April found Democrats held a 38-point lead among women with college degrees, up 10 points, and they've lost ground with every other demographic.
That's amazing. Tucker Carlson was interviewed by Ben Smith.
I believe it was Ben Smith.
Who said, are you racist?
And Tucker was like, I have a problem with upscale liberal women.
Like, they're like white liberal affluent women.
Not black people.
I think it's really funny because that's true!
If there's anyone, if you could take all of the problems that Tucker Carlson complains about, and then like find the largest concentration of individuals who propose those things, it is affluent white female liberals.
Tucker Carlson isn't complaining about what the black community is doing.
He's complaining about what the affluent liberals are doing.
Amazing.
Democratic strategists say the party's biggest vulnerability is assuming that
the priorities of progressive activists are the same as those of the
working class voters. Not true. The reality of growing inflation and worries
of recession, and you see why Democrats are losing at the reality, you see why
they're losing grounds with a core part of their coalition.
Wealthier Americans aren't feeling the day-to-day hardship hitting the working class.
This week's Time-Santa poll found affluent voters care more about gun control and abortion rights.
Working class voters are squarely focused on the economy.
So I say, let them do what they want.
If they want to run January 6 garbled nonsense and lie, fine.
I don't care about upscale affluent white liberals.
I don't.
If you want to be a snooty know-it-all who refuses to do the work to read the news, fine.
Whatever.
Now, if you are an inquisitive individual who seeks to improve this country and make everyone's life better, I am open to talk.
So for these culty Democrat weirdos, there's the door.
I don't care.
You've been given the chance to hear all of us out from post-liberal, moderate, libertarian, conservative, standing here on the quote-unquote far right, like they like to say, begging you to listen.
But you don't care.
Well, you know what?
This is why you're losing.
And so what are they going to do?
Gavin Newsom sparks presidential run chatter with an attack on DeSantis.
Ugh, Newsom?
You kidding me, guys?
Democrats, y'all should listen a bit to Andrew Yang.
I'm not a big fan of the guy.
I was a bigger fan back when he was running in the primary, but there's a lot of things I think he needs to be criticized for, but at the very least, y'all aren't paying attention to what people care about.
In California, in all of their major cities, there is a poop crisis.
You want to vote for this guy?
Laughable.
The funny thing is on Predict It, he actually is in the double digits behind Biden To actually be the Democratic nominee.
I think it's outright amazing that anyone would think this guy would be the nominee.
But you know what?
Maybe.
Maybe.
Not because he's good or anything, but because Joe Biden probably won't make it in terms of the presidency.
Now, I don't know what that means beyond just not being president.
I think the dude's senile.
And I'll tell you why.
Ladies and gentlemen, I gave you another wonderful clip.
This is from Steve Gass.
He says, Joe Biden tries to shake hands with nobody again.
And there he is.
He turns, reaches out his hand, looking down at his hand.
But let's slow motion that.
There's Joe Biden making the turn.
Right hand extends for the shake where he looks down and then appears confused, staring at his hand, and then realizing there's no one there.
And then the man next to him points to the ground.
Was that an attempt to try and save Joe Biden?
Who held out his hand for a handshake.
He didn't point.
He extends his arm.
Then he pauses and looks at his hand like he's tripping.
It's not the first time he did this.
Take a look at this from PolitiFact.
President Joe Biden was confused, turned around and shook hands with the air.
False!
He literally did!
It's on video!
False, says PolitiFact.
He did it.
You know, I love how they play this game.
Because now when Trump does it again, what are you gonna say?
Was he gesturing to the audience again?
He wasn't trying to shake hands with an imaginary person.
You know, I love how they play this game.
Because now when Trump does it again, what are you going to say?
Was he gesturing to the audience again?
No, he was pointing.
No, he's not.
He extends his hand like he's going to shake hands.
Then he stops and he looks at his hand slowly like he doesn't know what it is.
Like he's never seen it before.
Then someone points to a chair and he sits down.
Please, spare me your lies.
It's ridiculous.
Joe Biden is going to be roasted if he runs for president.
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Yeah, this is going to annihilate Joe Biden.
It doesn't matter what you think is the right move.
It doesn't matter if there was a good reason.
It just looks bad.
I love how the AFP fact-checked me.
It was funny.
I said it was crazy for him to do this.
And they said, fact-check false.
It wasn't crazy.
I'm like, yes, it was.
That's my opinion, dude.
You can't fact-check my opinion.
My facts were correct.
Joe Biden did it.
My opinion could be stupid.
I'll accept that.
Regardless.
When it comes to a Democratic primary, if there is one, when it comes to a presidential debate, this will cripple the Democratic Party.
Joe Biden will be standing up there, staring at his hand like he's spacing out, and DeSantis and Trump will both lean over and say, we demand an answer as to how the SPR released oil to China.
And he's gonna go, come on, man!
Russia, you know?
Come on.
There's no answer.
He's gonna say, with Russia, Vladimir Putin's price hike, we had to take action.
Our allies needed support, and we believed that exporting the oil would lower the prices.
And it's funny because you're gonna be like, oh, how about like if we released oil to like, I don't know, ourselves?
But regardless, the SPR is not for lowering the price of fuel so you can win re-election.
The Strategic Petroleum Reserve exists in the event there's a massive disruption to the supply so the country can keep functioning.
Not, it's too expensive so I need to lower prices otherwise I'll lose an election.
But this is it.
There's a famous quote that the country won't survive once people realize they can vote to steal money from the American people, or something to that effect.
Joe Biden said, I will take the oil and distribute it to lower the prices, which didn't really work, and then more people will vote for me.
Yeah, I can extract the security net and the safety of this country to try and win power again.
Donald Trump, ladies and gentlemen, did not do that.
For all the things he did that we can criticize, he did pretty well.
You know, I gotta admit, maybe a DeSantis-Trump ticket, like Trump-DeSantis, DeSantis as VP, you get DeSantis in there for four years, then you get eight more years of DeSantis, that may actually be the best outcome, because for the DeSantis stans, you get him in as VP for four years, plus eight more years after.
For the Trump fans, you get Donald Trump's last big term, DeSantis and Trump together, it may be the winning ticket.
There is one risk.
The liability of Trump and the Democrats, they won't vote for somebody else.
Most of them would vote for Joe Biden again over Trump.
But what about moderates?
Does it really matter?
I think Trump-DeSantis 2024 is a winning ticket.
But we'll see.
I'll leave it there.
Next segment's coming up tonight at 8 p.m.
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Thanks for hanging out, and I'll see you all then.
Let me just get it out of my system, okay?
Just before we start, okay?
Civil War.
Alright, alright, I said it.
Now we can talk about the moral issues ripping this country apart, and we have the story from the Daily Mail.
Fox News host Jesse Waters takes credit for putting pressure on Probe into Ohio Girl 10, who had to travel to Indiana for abortion, despite suggesting it could be a hoax.
Illegal immigrant, 27, is charged.
Okay, let's slow down here.
As the story goes, there was a viral, I think it was a tweet, where a doctor said that a 10-year-old girl, 10, had been raped, you know, she's not gonna sugarcoat it, and had become pregnant, lived in Ohio, and was forced to travel to Indiana to receive an abortion.
The story went viral, but the story had no backing.
The story had no sourcing.
So, I mean, for me, I looked into it, saw nothing, and said, I don't know.
I don't see anything there.
I don't talk about it.
When the Covington Catholic stuff happened and those videos were going viral, I was like, I don't know.
So I don't talk about it.
I have nothing to say.
I'm not fact-checking it.
I'm not debunking it.
I'm not pushing it.
I'm not agreeing with it.
I don't know.
Until there's more evidence, and something definitive can be said.
Now, of course, you could do what Jesse Waters did.
He said, here's the story that's going viral, and there's no evidence of this.
He brought in the AG of Ohio, David Yost, to talk about this, David Yost, and he said, there's no evidence of this.
It's crazy.
Well, now, we do know several things.
There's a man named Gerson Fuentes, 27, an illegal immigrant.
He's being criminally charged.
Apparently, I've heard some stories that he abused this little girl more than once.
Now we're hearing this.
Before the story was confirmed, at least to the degree it is confirmed, David Yost said the little girl did not have to leave Ohio for an abortion because Ohio has exemptions for this.
Does it?
Look.
I'll put it this way.
The little girl apparently was six weeks and three days pregnant.
Little girl, ten years old.
And the argument is a medical exemption because a ten-year-old cannot possibly sustain a child, a pregnancy.
But that doesn't mean that she didn't need to leave Ohio.
I see a lot of people on the right are immediately saying, like, ah, she didn't even have to leave.
Well, just because the dude says it, I'm not going to play that game.
He can say that, but there still are hurdles being put in place.
I was sent a bill out of Missouri.
It actually included the language, you could not get abortion devices, medication, or services for an ectopic pregnancy.
The reason I found that to be very weird is because the treatment for ectopic pregnancy is not abortion.
They do a surgical procedure through the abdomen and go in to remove the ectopic pregnancy from the fallopian tube or wherever it may be.
An ectopic pregnancy, for those that don't know, is when the fetus, zygote, or whatever, the fertilized egg attaches inside the fallopian tube, not in the uterus.
It is life-threatening.
It will likely kill the woman.
And so there's a term for it.
And even Planned Parenthood says that's not the treatment.
It's not abortion.
Abortion is something specific.
So, look.
The point of this story is, for middle-of-the-road Americans, for people who believe in rational solutions, there is an extreme faction on the right, and there is an extreme faction on the left.
As it is with most things, the way I actually perceive it with law, with the states, is that the right is taking a moderate, compromising position, and the left is taking an extremist, absolutist position, and there are some elements of the right that want an extremist position.
There are elements of the right that want abortion banned outright.
Just shut it down, period, no matter what.
But their view of abortion is typically the intentional killing of the child for no reason other than, like, contraception or an elective procedure.
Most of the people I've spoken with that are pro-life, staunchly, are in favor of exceptions.
In fact, many conservatives who consider themselves pro-life are actually in favor of exceptions for rape and incest, even though I honestly don't understand how that makes sense.
If you don't want to kill a baby, how is the circumstance by which the baby is born reason for killing it?
And when people say incest, oh, it's because of defect, I'm like, you don't agree with aborting Down Syndrome babies, why would you agree with aborting incest babies or anything like that?
So there are real questions here.
Ultimately, what this brings me to, and the reason why I did the joke like, ah, Civil War.
This is the big issue that I think is ripping this country apart.
The one thing I will say, as we often talk about with the Civil War stuff, Abortion is the potential moral catalyst.
It may be.
It might not be.
It's not this... You know, it really depends.
How many people actually cared about slavery in the North and the South?
Maybe less than most people realize.
They assume that everyone was up in arms, either in support or in opposition to it.
I'm not so convinced.
10% of the population fought.
But how many people actually cared?
And it's usually a lot less than you realize.
But I think these are the issues that are driving us to this point.
And I want to say, just before we get into this, the left obviously lies.
They obviously lie.
They fall for hoaxes all the time.
So I got no issue with Jesse Waters calling this out and saying, where's the evidence?
No problem.
David Yost said there was nothing in their records showing any of this had happened.
And now there's been a criminal referral.
Okay.
Good.
Jesse Waters is saying the pressure helped bring this about, and I gotta be honest.
I think it did.
Here's the issue with this story.
Uh, you know what?
I'm gonna rant.
Let's read the story, and then I'll talk to you about a lot of the problems here.
So, during a Wednesday segment, Waters hinted that the criminal investigation leading to the arrest of Gerson Fuentes was largely the result of his commentary on Monday.
Primetime covered the story heavily on Monday, put on the pressure, and now we are glad that justice is being served.
The network then played a compilation of short videos that showed Waters cracking on inconsistencies in the case, including why Dr. Caitlin Bernard, who provided the abortion services in Indiana, had not reported it.
And that's where... that's the point I wanted to get to.
Jesse Waters shows why the right doesn't fall for hoaxes.
Because the left comes out and says a thing, and then the right's like, I don't know if I'm gonna fall for that.
I don't know if I'm gonna believe that.
The left blindly believed Jesse Smollett. Wrong. Blindly believed Covington kids. Wrong. Blindly
believed the Kyle Rittenhouse narrative. Wrong. Blindly believed hands up don't shoot. Wrong.
Blindly believed Russiagate. Wrong. Wow, it just keeps happening, doesn't it?
Jesse Waters says we're gonna look into this.
Now the question here is, hold on there a minute.
While the left right now is doing laps, cheering, saying, aha, we got one right!
It's like, okay, congratulations, you got one right out of like the 50 you got wrong.
And I'm seeing these journalists being like, the right wing media machine was trying to smear the story of this little girl.
And it's like, okay dude, why didn't this lady report it?
Why didn't Dr. Caitlin Bernard report this?
I'm gonna say it again.
The people who were helping this little girl didn't report it?
If they reported it, then maybe they would have gotten services.
And that's where the hoax actually does come into play.
I'm gonna scroll down, and, uh, let me see if, uh, here we go.
They say the child was allegedly six weeks and three days pregnant, therefore ineligible by just three days to receive the procedure in her home state.
Abortion advocates in the state attempted to halt Ohio's six-week abortion ban, but the effort was denied by a judge.
It was originally reported that the girl had to leave the state for an abortion due to trigger laws, but Yost told Fox News that was incorrect.
Ohio's heartbeat law has a medical exception, which is broader than just the life of the mother.
This young girl, if she exists, and if this horrible thing actually happened to her, it breaks my heart to think about, she did not have to leave Ohio to find treatment.
It's unclear, however, that the girl's condition met the law's definition of an emergency, which must be life-threatening or involve a serious risk of the substantial and irreversible impairment of a major bodily function.
It's possible that the little girl would not have been able to get the services she needed because there's no way she could handle this pregnancy.
It's sad that the life of the baby will be terminated, but probably would be considered to be not viable anyway.
Now look, there's a middle ground here, and I think Daily Mail hits on it.
There's no guarantee she would have gotten the services, but hold on there a minute.
Why didn't the left Report the rape.
Why didn't they go in Ohio to abortion services, Planned Parenthood?
Why didn't they say, we want a medical exception for this, and make it a pressing public policy issue that they would have won on?
I think the issue is, the reason it played out the way it did, the reason it was not reported, is that the left would have lost.
I will say this.
This one's not a clear-cut hoax in the sense that someone made up a fake story.
It's a hoax in the manufacture of the story to a certain degree.
It is possible.
The little girl would have went to the hospital and they would have said, no, you're carrying this baby, we won't do it.
And the government would have said, no.
But I really, really doubt it.
You think anyone in politics in Ohio is going to accept a 10-year-old rape victim being forced to carry a baby?
That is just so far beyond reproach.
You can already see when the story was presumed to be false, David Yost says, well, you don't have to leave.
We would take care of this.
If the left reported the crime, if the left went to Planned Parenthood and said, we want the abortion, it would have happened.
And there'd be no story, there'd be no PR campaign, and the right would have said, see, the system works.
Imagine what would happen if a little girl went to a clinic and They denied her.
And then the left went, look at what's happening.
That would have been a powerful, powerful smack in the face of what was happening with these bills, with these heartbeat bills.
There's a reason why they didn't try.
Because the greater possibility was medical exemption.
There's no rape kit.
There were no criminal charges.
Not until now.
Why didn't anyone, knowing this girl, report this?
This is why I say, ladies and gentlemen, I do believe it is a hoax.
Now, as to my previous statements, I want to make sure I clarify.
I don't like the vague natures of this.
There is a possibility that a little girl, a family might say, we go to the hospital, and we seek an abortion, and they don't give it to you.
Well, that's it.
It's over.
You're done.
You will carry it, and they will not let you leave, and then what do we do?
It's possible.
And that's the kind of thing we need to be careful about.
But, I will say, the opportunity for the left here was the PR move, which says to me, I think it's a hoax.
I think it is a hoax in the sense, oh and I love the left is going to freak out and say, it really happened.
I know it really happened.
I mean, we've got it here.
We've got the guy being criminally charged.
Lock him up, throw away the key, boot him out of the country, whatever.
Illegal immigrant who did this.
This poor child.
But I think the left is manufacturing and manipulating the circumstances to create a political story.
Because they probably would have gotten the services under the medical exemption.
And if they didn't, it would have resulted in the AG coming out and saying, this is wrong and we're going to make sure she gets the medical services she needs and all of that stuff.
This is the game the left plays.
When these witnesses the other day refused to reject or denounce infanticide, they say, I refuse the question, but abortion is healthcare?
Abortion is healthcare?
The CDC defines abortion as the termination of a pregnancy that does not result in a live birth.
Which is...
You know, it may be circumstances where the child is non-viable but alive, and they terminate the pregnancy and there's no live birth.
There's also arguments that there could be a baby who could not survive on its own, like not having a heart or something, and so they terminate.
Things like that.
Things like that.
All of these typically fall into medical exemption categories.
And this is why I find myself to be traditionally pro-choice.
There are circumstances where people fear that the baby may be alive, but Let's just say, largely non-viable.
Like, let's say the baby has severe defect, a malformed heart, it can't survive on its own, and there are circumstances where abortion doctors are like, we can't do anything about this under the current law because no one's life is being threatened.
Now the challenge, I suppose, is there's no middle ground.
There may be a child with a minor defect, maybe could survive, And the doctor will say, I don't know though.
Let's terminate.
Ending the life of the child.
This is where the challenge comes in where you will not have a middle ground.
This is why I'm very much the Milk Toast Spencer on this issue and I don't know what to say.
There are many stories I've heard where doctors have told women, your child cannot survive, I'm sorry.
You need to terminate.
And the women say, I'm gonna try.
I refuse.
And the child survives and lives a long, healthy life.
I have several friends who have stories like that.
A handful, I'm not saying it's like every woman I know.
In like a couple people I know, women were told that the child wasn't gonna make it, that there was a defect and they were concerned, a hole in the heart or something like that.
Child's healthy and normal.
Healthy and alive.
Then there are circumstances where the inverse happens.
Where the child may be healthy and fine, but the doctor makes a mistake and says, terminate.
And the woman, terrified and sad, says, okay, there's no middle ground here.
So, I think what we see with these laws is an attempt to find that middle ground, is an attempt to be like, we need some medical exemptions, but you look at some of these states and they're like, none.
No exceptions.
I think for the most part, every single state does have an exception, though.
I think even, I think Oklahoma's the most restrictive.
But they actually have like a medical emergencies thing, and the left talks about ectopic pregnancies and how, you know, women are gonna die now, and it's like ectopic pregnancies are not considered viable pregnancies, so it's not considered an abortion.
Abortion is typically viewed, or at the very least, let's just define the terms.
If you're talking about terminating a pregnancy because the mother will lose her life or something like that, okay, fine.
Yeah, everybody's like, okay, well, we gotta do something about this.
Abortion to the pro-life crowd is when the baby is viable and you end its life.
And this brings me to the Democrats' bill and the challenge we face in the moral conundrum.
The Democrats wanted to legalize abortion up to the point of birth if it would affect the health of the mother.
But why terminate the baby if it's viable?
That's the problem.
They said, if post-viability, the mother's life is threatened, you can perform an abortion.
So, looking at the CDC's definition, that would mean a viable baby can survive on its own in the womb.
The mother is told, you will die if you carry this baby to term.
So they say, we'll kill it.
Why not just perform a C-section and remove the baby?
Why legalize that?
Well, this is where we're heading right now.
Over 80 House Democrats signed a letter urging Biden to declare a public health emergency over an abortion crisis.
The general idea being proposed or bouncing around is that this would allow the federal government to send abort-efficient medication.
They're called virtual abortions.
They will send pills to women under federal protections so that they can induce abortion on their own.
That, to me, is getting into crazy territory.
You take a look at the First Civil War.
Slavery.
The North, it wasn't just about slavery.
It really wasn't.
People need to understand this.
I read a lot about it.
The view was, at least one historical account said, the Union felt that the South was victim of a conspiracy to seize power and suspend constitutional rights of its people.
And the North needed to fight to restore those constitutional rights and remove these elites who had taken over.
And many of them were abolitionists and that constitutional rights extended to those who were slaves.
You take a look at what's going on now.
Imagine what it would have been like if during the Civil War, like pre-Civil War, bleeding Kansas era, the federal government enforced slavery on the North and said we are going to federally bring slaves into work in the North in fields and things like that when the North was saying no.
You had people like John Brown who walked up to slave owners and just blew their faces off.
No questions.
who led a band to raid the Harper's Ferry Armory to lead a slave revolt that ultimately failed for a couple of reasons.
One, the slaves wouldn't revolt, but also they let a train leave Harper's Ferry, which sent word to Baltimore that the, whatever you want to call it, insurrection that the storming of the armory had happened.
And then John Brown and his co-conspirators were captured, hailed as a hero in the North and a violent terrorist in the South.
People like that.
What would happen if the federal government was like, we're gonna enforce this and protect it?
Yeah, you're getting into this territory.
There's something really interesting about the Civil War narratives today.
For one, everyone seems to think that it's happening.
You know, the idea that it was far-fetched is long since gone.
Some people still don't believe it.
I think y'all are nuts.
I think it just won't look the way you think it's gonna look, therefore you can't see it coming.
Suddenly, or I'm sorry, gradually and then suddenly.
That's it.
You know, with Bleeding Kansas, you had factions.
You had people fighting, and it was also involving Missouri and things like this.
This is when they wanted Kansas to be a slave state or a free state, and there was fighting over it.
But I think what people don't realize is that the dominoes fall quick.
We talked about this the other day with Kurt Schlichter.
He said, 1914, World War I, Franz Ferdinand.
One by one, one person dies, and that is the tiny domino that leads to the big, massive slab falling over of a world war.
Or at least a war between great powers.
Everyone starts lining up.
That could happen here and people don't realize it.
So one of the things I talked about with Kurt the other day, being abortion, let's say this.
You've got these bills being proposed, and actually passed, about trafficking and abortion, and people who would seek abortions, you know, leaving a state.
What happens if someone in a... Let's say a state outright bans abortion, and bans people from receiving them.
What happens then if a woman goes to another state and receives an abortion, killing a child?
The state then says that is a homicide.
And that homicide was carried out in our neighboring state.
Let's say it's like, you know, I don't know.
Let's say someone travels to Colorado from a neighboring state that bans abortion.
Colorado has unrestricted abortion.
Let's say you have a state that says performing an abortion is a homicide.
Louisiana tried to pass it.
It failed.
If someone is murdered, because that's how one state views it, and then Colorado says, it's an abortion, we don't care.
Law enforcement from Colorado, from the neighboring state, demands that the person in Colorado be extradited.
They say to the Colorado government, we want that person who murdered one of our citizens, let's say the woman goes there, gets the abortion, comes back.
They say she was part of the murder.
She's arrested.
The doctor murdered the child.
We want him arrested and sent.
They say no.
The feds say no.
That's where things are getting crazy.
If someone in Illinois drives a child, like a ten-year-old boy, to Indiana, and then they both are party to the, you know, brings a child to an individual who then murders the child, and then they drive back.
That person will be arrested and charged, and Illinois will say, we want that murderer brought to justice.
They'll say, it's a federal issue, right?
It was across state lines.
What if the feds say no?
Now, with a murder like this, it doesn't happen.
I mean, the feds go in and they deal with it.
But what if the feds say no?
And the state says, we've got people in our state screaming over this murder.
Now I know a 10-year-old child and a baby in the womb are not identical in certain respects, but if the law views it that way, if the culture develops that way, and they pass a bill saying outright that is the case, then what happens?
The challenging thing then is when state law enforcement say, they go to the other state and they say, we want this person brought back.
We want them criminally charged and held accountable.
And then the other state says no, and we refuse, and then you get interstate conflict.
It may not.
It may seem far-fetched.
Like, why would state police from state A go to state B?
How about this?
How about a woman is pregnant.
And she wants to get an abortion.
She's eight months pregnant when she gets into a fight with her husband, and they separate.
And she says, I will not have this child with you.
So she jumps to the next state over, and the doctor says, I will perform the abortion.
And the husband says, they're going to kill my child.
It is illegal.
Stop them.
What if the abortion hasn't been performed yet?
What will happen?
The Feds say it's legal to perform an abortion there.
Let's say it's, you know, like, Illinois, Indiana, or maybe not a good... I shouldn't use that example.
Maybe it's, like, into Colorado.
I don't want to use a neighboring state because I don't know the exact laws of some of these other states.
Some of them have medical exemptions, but let's just say it gets to that point.
Will state law enforcement try to save the life of a child about to be killed?
Let's use that other scenario.
Let's say the child is born.
Three-year-old toddler is brought by the mother with a drug-addicted boyfriend, and the dad says, please, please, they've got my child, they're going to kill him.
Well, the feds would normally handle it.
But what if the feds say, we won't get involved?
Will the state then say, we will intervene to help?
Colorado says, we're not going to help, they're allowed to do whatever they want to your child.
Will the neighboring state intervene to save the life of a child who is a resident of their state, who has been kidnapped, and whose father is begging for protection?
To have their kid saved?
His kid saved?
People on the left need to understand, I suppose everybody needs to understand, the view of this.
If abortion is considered a homicide, in Texas, there's that woman claiming that she's 34 weeks pregnant, therefore there's two people in the car and she can drive in the HOV line, okay?
Does that mean it's kidnapping if she leaves the state?
You want to play that game?
That's what happens.
She leaves Texas to go to Colorado to get an abortion.
The husband says, no, she kidnapped my child and is going to kill it.
The federal government says it's illegal.
Do something about it.
Will the Rangers or some state troopers in Texas be like, we will not let a kidnapped child be murdered?
If it doesn't get to that point, I have questions about what pro-lifers really believe.
That you would let someone kidnap a child and kill them across state lines?
Then what?
You let the person who killed the child never be brought to justice?
The woman comes back?
What do you do?
Do you arrest her?
That's why I think this is getting into a dangerous space.
I'll leave it there, man.
I don't want to ramble too long, but I think it could be a major catalyst.
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There's a viral video going around of Alex Stein calling out AOC, hollering at her on the stairs, and AOC gets all mad, and she walks over, and she gives a peace sign, but then later she's like, dude, I was totally gonna deck this guy, and everybody- I don't care.
Everybody's talking about it.
I don't care.
It's all over the news.
You Google search it.
I don't care.
It's stupid.
It's not news.
And I'll tell you why I'm so frustrated.
Last night, a video was released of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez outright saying Police held the door open on January 6th.
Jack Posobiec says she admits it.
Well, she admits it.
I don't know if she admits it so much as she's calling out what's true.
AOC said others on the inside during January 6th were helping, supporting what was happening.
She wants an investigation.
She doesn't feel safe.
I also want an investigation.
I respect she doesn't feel safe following that.
We've got videos of police officers opening the doors to the Capitol from the inside of the building on January 6th.
And I'll tell you why I'm pissed.
Because when you Google search this, when I try to see more context, when I want to see what AOC has to say about this because this is important, all we get is big booty.
People are so pathetic and stupid.
First of all, I'll say to Alex Stein, I think it was stupid.
Whatever, I don't care all that much that he heckled AOC and called her beautiful and sexy or whatever.
It's so dumb.
And she got mad about it and she tweeted about it and it's so dumb I don't care.
Personally, I don't think Alex should have done that.
It is not helping anybody.
And I gotta be honest, I'm quite pissed off that it happened.
Because this stupid, immature, bull-ish...
It's now making it more difficult.
It's shutting down the real conversation about who was the law enforcement, who were the law enforcement on January 6th, who opened the doors and let that happen.
Who were the cops who stood down?
Who were the cops who waved people into the building?
I want answers.
AOC wants answers too.
Hey, we agree.
So don't go screaming stupid things at her.
I know it didn't happen at the same time.
Whatever.
The point is, I think this video happened after.
But now they have the perfect distraction for stupid people who like to hit ya big booty.
Okay, AOC, you are right.
I am with you 100% on this one.
I don't care about the stupid heckling.
It shouldn't have happened.
But we can stand here and both say, yes, please, AOC, please put pressure on the Democrats to get that investigation into these cops.
Let me play for you this clip.
And then I want to talk to you about what people are really worried about.
And I'll talk about the stupid, big booty nonsense.
Here's the tweet from AOC.
Remember how there was tons of footage and evidence of officers and others inside on 1-6 supporting insurrectionists, but then everyone decided it was too politically risky to investigate thoroughly, so they brushed under the rug and now we still have no idea who or what is safe?
Hear, hear.
Hear, hear.
Who was responsible for this?
Oh, the 1-6 hearing place stupid games.
Putting a clip of me alongside other people calling for a red wedding or something.
Me being like, Fox News says Donald Trump is reporting.
These insurrectionists, and that there were actual officers working with this, and we never got to the bottom of that, and we never got any answers about that, and then to this day we're just supposed to pretend that that never happened?
I have no idea what happened to the people on the inside who were very clearly sympathetic with what was going on, and opening the doors wide open for that.
I made a segment, uh, we were talking on TimCast IRL, where I pointed out that some of these people on January 6th are gonna have their charges dropped.
Because you can't charge someone with trespassing if they're allowed in the building.
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And the Young Turks were like, Tim Pool is so stupid.
And we're, I'm supposed to sit here and pretend like none of that ever happened.
And then right afterwards, you have a massive, you know, you just have this idea that throwing money at that problem is going to make it go away without any accountability.
And so this is, this is where these things are breaking down.
We're not safe.
And it's not just about members of Congress not being safe.
I want to know what happened when the far left breached the barricades of the White House, set fire to a guard post, set fire to St.
John's Church, but right now, Please, can we let someone who is supposedly the other side, as people would like to say, basically say exactly what we all want to hear and just agree with it?
When you refuse to listen to someone you typically don't agree with, making an important point because of your tribal mind blocks, that is why we can't get to the bottom of these problems.
AOs, I'm going to stress this.
Once again, I think AOC's Green New Deal is ridiculous.
I think she supports policies that I think are insane.
I think she's an outright tribalist.
But I don't care to just yell things like anti-fight AOC because AOC is on the left or whatever.
I care about ideas.
I care about the institutions and how they implement policy based on ideas.
If AOC comes out and you can say, uh, Broken Clock is right twice a day, good.
Fine.
I want to know who these cops are.
Instead, what do we get?
Now, I'm not saying, right, that AOC is implying some grand conspiratorial inside job where, like, everyone's in on it.
I'm saying there were police officers on the inside, at least, that were in on it, or at least were negligent.
And you have Ashley Babbitt being shot.
The questions I have are, How are they arresting these people, these trespassers as it were, when the cops opened the doors for them and even AOC is calling it out?
But you know what?
I'm not saying this about every single person who's criticizing AOC, but there are just too many people who are too blinded by hatred and tribal rage to realize this is good.
AOC is right.
And on this point right here, I stand with her 100%.
I'm just so sick of it, man.
We have this story from Axios.
Trump supporter at center of January 6th conspiracy theory.
It's just been hell.
Ah yes, ah yes.
Ray Epps, the guy who's seen on camera multiple times telling people to enter the building, who has not been held to account, who has not been charged.
You see, many people think Ray Epps is an FBI agent or something like that.
I think that's stupid.
I don't think the guy is.
I think the simple solution is, He was telling people to go in right before they tore the barricades down as well.
And then he's the first person they went to and he said, tell me what you want and I will give you everything you want.
I think he cooperated.
I think he named names.
I think he pointed to a bunch of other people.
And so they said, okay, you can go.
And then something happened.
They started arresting people based on the information they received from Ray Epps.
The right noticed that Ray Epps wasn't being charged.
Many people started insinuating he may be an FBI agent or something like that.
And then the media started defending him.
I don't think he's an FBI agent.
Why?
I have no evidence to suggest that he is.
I think he may be an informant in that after the fact, he started spilling the beans, being like, I don't wanna go to jail!
I'll do anything you say.
There is something weird about it, and it is possible he was a criminal informant before January 6th, but that's neither here nor there.
The issue is, we need an investigation into Ray Epps.
We want FOIA documents.
We want testimony under oath, not puff pieces from Axios.
Here's what they say.
The media is not actually addressing the core issue here.
While there certainly are people who think he's an FBI agent, the media is doing this obfuscation by exaggeration.
His story underscores how quickly conspiracy theories can reverberate.
The media is not actually addressing the core issue here.
While there certainly are people who think he's an FBI agent, the media is doing this
obfuscation by exaggeration.
The idea is, when you're fact-checking something, assert the most extreme claim to bury the
Ocasio-Cortez comes out and says, who were these people who opened the door?
It's a good question.
Thank you, Ocasio-Cortez.
I agree.
I want answers as well.
If you do not feel safe because of that, I feel for you.
That is the Capitol Police.
Ray Epps encouraged people to enter the building.
Why wasn't he arrested?
That's incitement.
I mean, that is a crime.
And they said, well, you know, he didn't go in.
He's on the Capitol grounds as the barricades are being torn down, and he's whispering into someone's ear, who then engages in tearing down barricades.
He is heard saying this.
How did they not charge the man?
I don't know what he is, who he is, what he does.
I don't care.
This is what the media does to protect him.
And this is where it gets weird.
They say it's a baseless theory pushed by right-wing media outlets and Republican politicians prompted death threats resulted in Epps having to leave his home and selling his business.
What does that have to do with anything?
The fact that there is a conspiracy theory about him does not change the fact that I agree with AOC and want an investigation into those who are encouraging this, who are opening the doors from the inside.
And for what?
Lies, Epps.
61 told the Times in a day-long interview from an undisclosed location in the Rocky Mountains.
All of this, it's just been hell.
After the January 6th Capitol riot, Trump and his allies falsely blamed a number of actors for violence that ensued that day, with Antifa and the FBI emerging at the center of many of the tales per the Times.
And I think that's so dumb.
We know that one of the guys who went in, a guy and a woman, were known Antifa.
But, I don't think, like, they're not organizers.
They're not right-wing individuals.
They were there, and they were, like, hooting about being in the Capitol and all that stuff.
It doesn't mean that Antifa created the violence.
There's a video of men in hoodies and masks breaking through the window.
I don't know who these people are, and I'm not going to assert any theories on who they might be.
I just don't know.
If there was some evidence, I would say, well, look, here's a clip from someone saying this thing.
Okay, well, there you go.
I don't know.
I think that's stupid.
I think that an honest, rational person will say, Ray Epps needs to be publicly interviewed, under oath, cross-examined.
They say, zoom in!
Right-wing media outlets, including Revolver News, compiled selectively edited videos in an effort to show Epps as a secret government agent who was responsible for provoking the riot per the Times.
Lies, lies, manipulators, scumbags!
Now, it's true people believe these things.
That's not what I'm saying.
What I'm saying is they're doing obfuscation through exaggeration.
The real question is, who is Ray Apps?
Why was he not charged with incitement?
That's it!
They can come out and simply say he's a CI.
They can come out and just say, Adam Kinzinger tried saying it.
None of these answers were sufficient.
Revolver News, an obscure right-wing media outlet.
It's funny that they say it's obscure when it's got like millions of readers.
Published its first article about Epps in October, almost immediately setting off a flurry of death threats, trespassers at his home and family members and friends turning on him.
In January, Epps received a letter from someone who claimed to have been brought into the country by a Mexican drug cartel who warned that some members discussed killing Epps per The Times.
Epps and his wife are seeking lawyers, a lawyer, To help them file a defamation lawsuit against many of the individuals who pushed the fake story, per the Times.
The truth needs to come out, he said.
I agree.
And I don't think it has anything to do with this guy being a federal agent or anything like that.
I think, as I stated, the simple solution is...
He was seen there.
They came to him.
He said, I'll tell you everything you want to know, just give me immunity, and they gave it to him.
And that happens.
But because he's so prominently featured on video, and because people chanted, Fed, Fed, Fed, people think he's a Fed, but it's dumb.
I don't think he's a Fed.
Because I don't think the FBI could do a good enough job to cover up who this guy is and what he does.
Because the internet is just too good at that.
If he was a Fed, they'd have found out by now.
We can kind of tell who the Feds really are.
This guy is just, it's questionable.
I want to know why he wasn't charged.
And again, it may be a legitimate law enforcement thing, like he gave us leads.
Okay, fine, whatever.
But there's questions, right?
Epps fled Arizona, leaving behind his mobile home to settle in a trailer park in the Rocky Mountains.
He now keeps a low profile, wearing a wide-brimmed hat when he goes out, but he knows that his connection to the conspiracy theory will linger.
They'll always be associated.
You can't convince some people they're extremists, and you'll never convince them that they're wrong.
Why isn't he featured prominently in the January 6th hearing?
Kinzinger said, well, he didn't actually go in, but no, no, no, hold on.
This man telling people what to do shows premeditation.
That's important for January 6th, and they aren't showing it.
Why?
I have no idea.
Let's talk about the media, my friends.
Let's talk about where we're at.
I'm annoyed by this.
I saw AOC tweet about the January 6th police inside opening the door, and I was just like, yes!
Slay Queen Moore.
Bring it.
I Google-searched Ocasio-Cortez police investigation.
Okay, what do we get?
First story, AOC condemns dangerous police failure to stop disturbing sexual harasser.
Okay.
The next one is governors protect abortion rights.
Huh.
GOP politicians, Roe.
Medium level of paranoia and security concerns three weeks ago.
J6 panel, Ocasio-Cortez toured with GOP congressmen.
That's a month ago.
Where's the story?
If you search for AOC right now, all you get is Alex Stein calling her a big booty Latina.
Look forward to having you on the show to talk about how they are using you saying something dumb to shut down what may be one of the most important stories right now.
Moment AOC confronts troll calling her his favorite big booty Latina.
Rep says she wanted to deck him for spewing disgusting garbage on Capitol Steps.
I don't care if someone yells at someone else.
AOC, you shouldn't yell at her things like this.
That's stupid.
I'm not a fan of it.
AOC saying she wanted to deck him.
The whole thing's kind of weird.
Because she gives a peace sign and says, let's do a selfie.
I don't understand what she was doing.
Should've ignored it.
And what Alex Dine did was one of the stupidest things I've ever seen.
And I look forward to telling him that.
Personally.
I don't care.
I'll invite anybody on the show to talk about this stuff, and we'll talk about this stuff.
He says she wants to kill babies but she's sexy and she's got a, you know, wanted to kill babies but she's still beautiful.
What is the point of this?
Okay.
People have a right to express themselves as they want.
I'm not the arbiter of truth and morality.
So far be it for me to say this guy can't say what he wants to say.
But I can say it is extremely frustrating that right now what I want more than anything is an investigation into Ray Epps, is an investigation into the police officers who opened the doors, Is media to admit the doors were open from the inside for the people who have been arrested for trespassing to have their charges dropped because we now know or we've known police opened the doors and with an investigation with the help of Ocasio-Cortez maybe we can get that and maybe that would bring about some unity in this country.
But I'm sorry, we can't.
We can't because Alex Stein called her a big booty Latina.
I don't blame him for the fact that everyone's picking this up.
It was a stupid thing he did in the Capital Steps.
But now you have it.
This is the story.
This is the media.
Max Berger says, It really says a lot about how media works in this country.
That this shameful incident and the death threats made against Pramila will together receive a tiny fraction of the coverage garnered by Kavanaugh's steak dinner.
Well, you're wrong.
When I Google search this, When I Google search AOC, the only thing I get is big booty Latina stupid garbage.
Waste of time.
Nonsense.
It's all over the press.
Kavanaugh's steak dinner.
That was a bit different.
I think they're both wrong.
People protesting a restaurant when Kavanaugh's trying to eat is a continual pressure of a justice of the court.
I think it's a problem.
AOC is a member of Congress, and you people protest her.
But what Alex Stein did was not protest her.
He just said something dumb.
Something dumb.
You know, I don't care all that much that Kavanaugh had his steak dinner interrupted.
I really don't.
He had to leave out the back.
It shouldn't be that way.
I don't like the idea of protesting justices and judges.
And there's a certain thing that comes with being a public figure.
So for AOC being mad about Alex Stein's comments, look man, I don't like it.
I don't agree with it.
But you don't need to tweet about it.
You can ignore it.
There's something people need to understand.
I go outside, I go to urban centers, I go areas.
I didn't just move to the middle of nowhere because of the political environment, because of my personal safety as well.
Here's something you've got to understand.
And I wonder what AOC's protocol is for this stuff.
When I go out to eat, do you think that I can just sit down and order food?
I can't.
We've got millions of followers in this network, most of which I'd assume are fans, but a decent amount hate my guts.
We get 50-60 million viewers, around like 35-40 million uniques per month, and then with peripheral network stuff it may actually be bigger than that, like reposting, cross-posting.
In 2020, we were getting 120 million views per month.
That was like 180 to 100 million unique viewers.
Massive.
That was like 180 to 100 million unique viewers.
Massive.
Insanely massive.
Now the reality is, most people don't watch every single thing I do.
Most people watch a small handful.
So while we may get like 60 million views across the board, many people are repeat viewers.
So it comes out to like, it's probably like 30 to 40 million unique.
Because we've looked through it.
It could be a little bit less, but I think that's the number.
It's like two-thirds of the people watch.
So when I go out to eat, how do I know the person who's serving me likes me?
I don't.
And what if they spit on my food?
What if they put something nasty on it?
What if they put cleaner on my food?
To get me sick?
This is the reality of being a public figure, especially with a really high profile.
AOC's probably got to deal with this.
Kavanaugh's got to deal with it.
I think it's stupid.
Now, they're politicians.
Fine.
I am also in a position of influence.
Fine.
Protest me.
Protest them.
Fine.
What I want is for all of for everybody to recognize you know some
people heckling you it happens AOC is allowed to respond to it fine because I think what Alex Stein did
was dumb but the media then latches onto it and it shows you how stupid our society is that
while AOC was saying investigate the cops open the door some guys going Antifa Antifa Antifa I
complain about Antifa all day and night But not when someone who normally disagrees with me is agreeing with me and saying, I agree with you.
If a leftist comes to me and says, I agree with everything you're saying, I'm not going to yell at them about Antifa.
I'm going to be like, awesome.
Right on.
Let's get to it.
We can start by solving whatever that problem is.
But you know what?
Maybe that's what people are... It's what they want.
They'd rather have shock drama, celebrity gossip nonsense.
I don't blame Alex Stein for the news cycle being dominated by his comments.
I will criticize his comments thinking it's stupid.
But of course the media latched onto that over the more important comments from AOC.
