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March 6, 2019 - Tim Pool Daily Show
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Far Left Activists Have DESTROYED Journalism From Within (Ft. Joey Salads)
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tim pool
I'm sitting here with Mr. Joey Salads, and as you're watching this, I'm pretty sure, hopefully he hasn't cancelled on me for the third time, I'm on Joe Rogan's podcast.
And so there's a lot of stuff happening in the conversation around censorship, around journalists who are actually activists, and we've seen a bunch of really terrifying examples of how journalists are actually activists.
There's another really important thing that needs to be talked about too, and that's the road to redemption for people who break the rules on social media, and I think Joey's a really good person to talk to about a bunch of these things.
So first, we have the desire of many of these, I'll do air quotes for journalists, who want to push rage bait, right?
It's content that makes you angry so you click it.
And the reason why I think, you know, that's a good example of how not only do you have activists in media, but you also have business people.
These are people who know, this is the content that gets traffic, and now we're being inundated by media that's politically driven, right?
We had an article from Wired that said, Facebook has banned Tommy Robinson, here's who they should ban next.
Like, why is a news organization telling us who is or isn't allowed to speak?
They're diving into the realm of activism here.
And so one of the reasons why Joey's going to be good, and we'll just jump right into this conversation, is you're now one of the most notable things about you.
It's horrible, horrifying, because you were producing extreme rage bait.
joey salads
Yeah, so that's basically what I considered my skill back in 2016, when it was pretty much the height of the election, was I was just creating content that would specifically piss people off because I knew it would go viral.
tim pool
You were making money doing it.
joey salads
Yeah, I was making good money.
tim pool
And you got caught.
joey salads
I got caught doing it.
tim pool
So, for those that, if you're not familiar, there was one video where you had a car with, like, Trump logos on it.
And then you were like, I'm gonna leave this in this neighborhood.
joey salads
I pretty much paid black people to beat it up.
Oh my god, dude.
tim pool
That's horrible.
joey salads
What I never talk about...
After that, like, I don't want to even try to defend myself on that, but, like, recently after that, real situations just like that started popping up.
tim pool
Oh, exactly.
So, another reason why, like, I'm in LA, right, so I'm going to come on the podcast with Joe, and I was like, but, but, Jussie Smollett just happened, right?
You had this crazy story.
joey salads
I smelled that bullshit from a mile away.
tim pool
I think I saw a tweet where someone was like, why should we trust you on this?
And then you just, like, basically waving your arms, like, because I did it, right?
So, let me ask you.
You made this video.
Like you said, you basically paid black people to destroy a car because it was rage content, right?
It got Trump supporters to click.
How did you fall into that?
How did you discover that?
joey salads
It just slowly started happening over time.
So I'll do videos.
I was doing pranks and social experiments.
I was always making the news.
I was always in the news because like a child abduction video, a date rape video.
I was like, let me start bringing this towards politics.
And then, if I did something slightly politically related that wasn't, like, so far in any direction, I noticed outrage coming.
And I was like, oh, those are the ones getting the most views.
tim pool
Were you getting news stories from it?
Like, what people write about it?
joey salads
Yeah, I was getting tons.
So, then I was like, okay, let me just do this.
And, like, as I was, like, in my head, in my own bubble, I was not realizing how far extreme I was going with these videos.
tim pool
You literally hired black dudes to destroy a car.
joey salads
Yeah, because it's like...
When you're in your own echo chamber, where you're like, oh, this is what I'm doing, this is what's working, let me just keep doing it, and it's like just going crazier and crazier until it reached that breaking point.
tim pool
You got caught.
joey salads
And then I was like, then I sat back and realized like, holy shit, I was on like a maniac rampage just trying to produce outrage content and it finally backfired back on me.
tim pool
You went on H3H3 and like came clean on like a bunch of stuff you'd done that was fake and everything.
joey salads
And so... And I also realized, add to that, I'm like, there's no point of lying anymore.
unidentified
Why?
Because it always comes out, like, you know what I mean?
tim pool
Well, so that brings me to, like, the next big point.
So, I don't want to compare, necessarily.
I don't want to put, like, an equivalence on... You literally hired these guys, like, black people to destroy a car.
It was, like, horribly racist.
In a certain respect, like, absolutely drove this racist narrative that I thought was... I got really mad at you.
I was, like, cussing you out.
I remember that.
But here's what I realized.
I was like, that's not going to convince Joey to stop doing things like this.
That's going to convince him to do it more because the people who like it are going to keep rewarding you.
So, and we talked about this, too.
We did a video, like, two years ago, because I came back from Sweden, and I was like, you know, it was wrong of me to start yelling at you, and I realize you've got a bunch of, you've got a ton of fans that are listening to what you have to say, and it's not even about whether you're right or wrong, it's that they trust you, and they like you, they feel empathy towards you, and so when people attack you, they get defensive.
And so I was like, well, I can't push you towards the wrong, towards the darkness.
I have to apologize for being angry and give you a chance to redeem yourself.
So now, you know, so this is the road to redemption, which we'll get more into in a little bit.
So I don't want to draw an equivalence between what you did and what the mainstream media does, necessarily.
But to a certain extent, there's a scale issue, right?
And so, the way I want to explain this is, that one video you did was like a huge peak of insanity.
Like, that was crazy wrong.
But what the mainstream media does is small grains of sand every day of fake news, of rage bait.
Like, one of the things I was mentioning to Joey before we started recording is, Vox.com publishes an article saying that 11 million people in this country are alt-right.
That's insane.
Even by high estimates.
joey salads
It's crazy, because I put a poll up on my Instagram.
My Instagram's not political.
It goes, why do you like Trump or why do you hate Trump?
And people are answering the questions.
He's racist.
He's this.
Our country's in shit.
Our country's divided.
And I'm thinking, I'm like, well, on paper, if you look at the data, our country's doing better than ever before, economically-wise.
Arguably, it's doing, you know, on average, better.
Whatever it is.
unidentified
And people are believing that we're in this massive turmoil and that we're divided.
joey salads
Meanwhile, black unemployment's at an all-time low.
tim pool
Hispanic unemployment too.
joey salads
Yeah, Hispanic.
unidentified
Everything's hitting records in a good way.
And people are believing, oh wow, that Trump is racist, Trump is this, Trump is that.
joey salads
Everyone who supports him is racist.
My girlfriend lost her best friend because she's dating a Trump supporter.
And because I embody everything she hates.
Yeah.
tim pool
Well, so look at the latest news.
joey salads
But what I'm trying to get to is the reason why people believe that is because, as you said, they're being fed these fake tidbits of fake news over time.
And the only division in this country is not from Trump.
It's from the people peddling this fake news to divide us.
tim pool
Well, I'll push back and say there is division coming from Trump, easily.
But Trump is, in my opinion, divisive in the way that most politicians are.
You know, Obama criticized Fox News relentlessly.
Trump criticizes the media.
But look at like what 95% of media about Trump is negative.
Like, you know, I'm talking to my dad, and I'm like, no, that story is... So, actually, let me do this.
Specific example, because I made a video about this the other day.
BuzzFeed comes out with news saying Trump explicitly told Michael Cohen to lie to Congress.
Well, now you've got people on the left who are already freaked out, freaked out even more, being like, oh my god, our president is a crook, is a criminal.
Mueller's office comes out and says, not true.
What does BuzzFeed do?
Nope.
We're not backing down, we're gonna double down.
Then what happens?
Cohen testifies.
Trump never told me a lie.
What does BuzzFeed do?
We're still not wrong.
So when the media, they're not doing anything at like, in terms of extremism as like the video you made was like really bad, but they're doing, it's like haymakers versus uppercuts.
Your video was like a boom to the face and they're doing little jabs non-stop all day every day.
When you catch them doing it, They don't back down, they don't come clean, they have no incentive to stop lying, and they keep making money.
joey salads
The thing is, the debate is what drives clicks.
So I think, obviously there's so many websites out there that are just perpetrating fake news and radical leftism.
Just obviously because they'll get those radical lefties to click and then they get us to click.
unidentified
They get us to talk about it because we're all pissed off.
tim pool
I just mentioned Vox and BuzzFeed.
joey salads
Yeah, look at all the stories you talk about on a daily basis from the outrage that's driven from the articles you talk about or the fake news that you talk about.
That's what they want.
They're beating us at our own game, and we don't even know it.
tim pool
Well, I mean, here's the thing.
I read a bunch of different media outlets.
I read Vox, I read Buzzfeed, I read Daily Wire, I read Daily Caller.
I try my best to read CNN and Fox News.
And here's what I find.
Like, Covington happens, right?
Covington scandal.
I go to the Daily Caller, I go to the Daily Wire, and they're correct.
They've actually done a breakdown to try and figure out what this is.
I look at the Jesse Smollett story.
Daily Wire is critical, and I'm like... I mean, look, I'm- I'm- I'm- I am not religious in any way.
I disagree with Ben Shapiro on, like, almost everything politically.
Like, the only thing I think I agree with him on is, like, free speech.
And here I am going to his publication and I'm seeing a more honest breakdown.
Then I go to, you know, Washington Post.
All fake.
Like, all wrong.
joey salads
The thing is, those outlets, the mainstream media outlets, don't really have fan bases.
They're just trying to reach a general audience where they're just trying to get that high click rate percentage click through.
Meanwhile, you have Daily Wire, yourself, Steven Crowder, which has So one point I want to make sure we get to because I don't know how long this video will be.
I don't think it's that the person who owns Vox or whatever is an activist.
unidentified
of pain or even the truth. You know what's crazy to me is...
tim pool
so one point I want to make sure we get to because we, you know, I don't know how long this video will be. I don't
think it's that the person who owns Vox or whatever is an activist. I think they know, they figured out what you
figured out. Rage equals traffic equals money and no one is going to catch them ever.
You know, you're nowhere near as big as the people who run Vox, the people who run BuzzFeed.
You're still a big YouTuber.
You get caught.
Everyone points the finger at you, angry.
joey salads
Don't want me.
tim pool
And so now, I think the last video I saw, you had a guy get sprayed in the face with milk, and it's like...
So we'll get to the road to redemption in a second, because I think it's a really important point that you went from like, whoa, off the rails, to now you got a hokey video of you with a wig on and a guy gets sprayed.
It's like such a family-friendly version of where you were.
But what happens with Vox and BuzzFeed, even when BuzzFeed is proven to be wrong and lying, they just go on.
So Ben Smith goes on MSNBC and says, no, we're right.
And there's nothing.
You know conservatives are outraged.
unidentified
Because they're at the top and no one's there to Push down on them to keep them in check.
joey salads
If anything, we're the ones punching up at them.
I was, I was down here, so easy to punch me down.
tim pool
And it was actually, it was the media, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Somebody published the video and then all of a sudden every lefty media just descends on you and knocks you down.
And I think that's a good thing, right?
I think, I think like, like you made a good point.
Uh, you didn't realize how far you had gone.
You kind of got kicked in the balls on that one.
And then now you've, you've done a 180.
joey salads
So let's, let's actually, we've been talking about- The crazy thing is that, And me dressing up as a Nazi, going to the Trump rally.
Those are the two things, to the day I die, I'm going to be explaining to people.
tim pool
You should explain it though.
joey salads
The Nazi one?
tim pool
All of in the news, I think this was after... Yeah, yeah, it was like two years ago.
joey salads
No, it was a year before Charlottesville.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
joey salads
So, it didn't go nowhere, because this is when I was like, if I did a political video, I'm like, it's gotta be 100% real, because I was trying to, you know, Road to Redemption.
unidentified
I was like, anything political's gotta be real.
joey salads
you know, redeem myself, keep myself on the straight path.
So I went to the Trump rally and I'm like, um, alright, let's see if Trump supporters are really Nazis.
Because at the time, everyone was saying Trump supporters are Nazis.
So I go there dressed up as a Nazi, I'm fuckin'- Well you said an armband on, right?
Yeah, an armband on, and I'm- I was a bad- I was a worse Nazi.
I think it was on the wrong arm or something, too.
And I was thinking to myself, like, someone's gonna screenshot this and this is gonna be viral.
tim pool
So the Trump supporters threw you out?
joey salads
Yeah, they kicked me out immediately.
That was the point.
tim pool
Except the message you wanted to send got flipped on its head.
joey salads
Yeah, and the funny thing is, I was like, it's going to be ironic when I'm making a video to prove Trump supporters aren't Nazis, but this image is going to be used To prove Trump supporters are Nazis.
tim pool
It's like, I always use this example, it's a fire truck on fire.
joey salads
Yeah, that's literally what it was.
tim pool
You drove the fire truck to the Trump rally, and then it burst into flames.
unidentified
The video did half a million views in the first year, which is nothing.
joey salads
And then once Charlottesville breaks out, I'm in Jamaica, hanging out, and the photo surfaces, celebrities are tweeting it out, producers of big TV shows like Ellen, Mark Ruffalo.
unidentified
Oh man.
joey salads
DJs, artists, comedians are tweeting it out saying, look what's going on in Charlottesville.
Another Trump supporter now.
This is California, right?
tim pool
What was that?
joey salads
You were in California.
unidentified
I was in California for the video, and I was in Jamaica during the time of Charlottesville.
joey salads
And, oh.
tim pool
And it was the opposite.
So it's crazy.
It was taken out of context by celebrities and media.
It was politically weaponized.
And here's what's crazy about it.
I saw that.
I knew immediately what it was.
And so me, like trying to be someone who's like, here's what's actually going on.
I quote tweeted the screenshot and said, this is from somebody, I can't remember who tweeted it.
I said, this is just an image from a social experiment prank.
And then what they did was they took my statement out of context and said something to the effect of,
the far right is radicalizing YouTubers into thinking that dressing up like Nazis is funny
and a joke.
And I'm like, no, are you?
Oh my God.
The point was that you were trying to show that people hated Nazis.
But even me trying to explain it was weaponized.
And the crazy thing is I had an ex-girlfriend actually tweeting it out.
And I'm like, what are you doing?
I'm not enemies with you.
I'm on good terms with my exes.
Man, that was nuts.
So that's another really good example that we can bring up to talk about.
When you got caught the first time, you're like, I did wrong.
you got caught with this one, you didn't do anything.
Yeah.
It was literally a social experiment.
And that shows you that even when you didn't fake it, they still point the finger at you and try and destroy you.
And it's true, you made a good point.
There's no one above them to knock them down and they won't police each other.
So you get Trump doing it, what do they do?
They all team up.
Yeah.
So now you have like Oliver Darcy, who is the person who went on CNN and said,
Alex Jones was banned because of media pressure, mostly from him.
He just went on CNN and said CPAC is where gullible people are sold, you know, BS from grifters.
It's like, dude, you're clearly an activist.
And so I feel like these media companies, I think this is fair to say because I've worked for them, there's business people on top.
Who know exactly what you knew, and they hire activists, and they can claim deniability.
Like, oh, that wasn't me, that was them.
unidentified
Just the people we hired.
tim pool
So let's actually talk about the road to redemption, too, because as I pointed out, the last video I saw from you, I don't know if it was the last video you made, but you're like, wearing a dress and a wig, and you put a purse down, some guy opens it and gets sprayed in the face with milk.
Bait purse prank bait purse so I saw that I immediately started laughing
I have a ton of views on Instagram, and I was like I started thinking I'm like damn, dude
This is the dude who a couple years ago was making these insane
rage, baby like extreme politically damaging divisive content
Given the chance to keep working without being banned you're now making really hokey family-friendly
joey salads
It's weird because last night I was looking I just googled my name
unidentified
And I saw a bunch of petitions to get me banned off of YouTube
Wow.
joey salads
I was like, wow.
And it was some kids I went to school with.
We're signing them and writing...
unidentified
I'm not gonna lie about you.
tim pool
Dude, I had some woman claim on Twitter, there was this thread about me.
They tagged me because everyone always wants to make sure you know they're dragging you.
And somebody randomly says, Tim Pool came to my house at 2am one day and started, and turned the TV on.
And woke everybody up.
And there's a bunch of replies from people saying like, damn, I can't believe you would do that.
And I'm like, first of all, I don't know you.
You live in Boston.
I don't live in Boston.
joey salads
You just went to someone's house and turned on their TV.
tim pool
But it's like people want to just join the party and drag you.
joey salads
They want to believe it.
People love failure.
That's why the most famous celebrities are the ones that are all cracked out.
Because people love seeing people do better.
tim pool
It brings them back.
It brings them back in the news.
So here's the most important point.
When you ban someone from Twitter, where do they go?
Well, they go where everyone else was banned.
So now what Twitter is doing is they're taking all the people they don't like and putting them in the same place.
Well, to their benefit, they're able to rally around certain causes, like free speech, but to their detriment, you're taking people who are not, like, there's, you know, some people who said learn to code.
Banned.
For a joke.
Now you're putting them literally next to Neo-Nazis.
You know, so Twitter bans the American Nazi Party.
Sure, I get that.
joey salads
It's kind of like what you were saying earlier, comparing it to prison.
And it's like taking someone who got caught smoking a little joint of weed and throwing them in with murderers.
tim pool
Exactly, exactly.
And that's something a lot of people talk about, is how people become hardened criminals in prison.
I think the weed is a perfect example.
You get some 18-year-old kid up in the Bronx, gets stopped for having pot, so they throw him in lock-up for a couple weeks, and now he's standing next to gangbangers, murderers, all the worst of the worst, and that's who he's being surrounded by.
So that's what really scares me with what Twitter is doing, with what... YouTube actually isn't as bad as a lot of people think, but they do it.
They do.
Monkey Jones always gets a shout-out from me when I talk about this.
I don't know if you know about Monkey.
Monkey broke no rules.
He broke no rules, got his channel terminated, so YouTube does it too.
But when you do this, People say, fuck it.
Straight up.
And that's what I was thinking about in Sweden, when you messaged me and I'm like, this dude?
This guy's messaging me?
I was like, hell no, I am here on an important mission, I'm a journalist, this guy is fake news.
And then it was like, after I saw the reaction, I was like, that was really dumb.
joey salads
I was like, I was so depressed.
tim pool
I felt really bad, because you said something to me like, damn dude, I was just trying to like, talk to you about some news, and I felt really bad, I was like, Oh man, I hate being mean.
But I got really emotional, because I'm so sick of the media and the lies, and when I saw what you did, it felt so much like what the media had been doing the same time, I'm like, you're one of them.
And then I thought about it, I'm like, yeah, but here's the thing.
If that's all that people ever say to you, because like, Phil DeFranco still, I don't know how you've responded, because I remember on Twitter he was coming at you.
joey salads
I hate that dude, man.
What's going on about it?
unidentified
Like, whenever I come back up, he'll go back on and get it.
tim pool
And here's my thing.
What you did was wrong.
And you said that.
Now, some people say, yeah, he's the only thing because he has to.
I'm like, good.
unidentified
Good.
tim pool
I don't care why he's doing what he's doing.
joey salads
Yeah.
People change when they have to change.
tim pool
I mean, if you're gonna make millions of dollars and people are gonna support you, why would you change?
So, I'm not saying you're making millions of dollars, I'm saying, like, there's the bad people in media who have no reason to change and never will.
But I started thinking, like, you know, a lot of people get hung up on motivations, as if the motivation is more important than the outcome.
And you had this announcement that the Trump administration was going to fight to decriminalize homosexuality in foreign countries.
Like, they literally killed people for being gay.
I'm like, that's bad.
And then what happens?
Out Magazine says it's Trump's, it's an old racist tactic.
And I'm like, whoa, I don't, what are you talking about?
Like, listen, you can, you can ascribe whatever motives you want to Trump.
If, if, if what he's, what he's doing right now is for the purpose of protecting the LGBT community, I'm going to begrudgingly be like, okay, do it.
I don't have to like you, but do it.
joey salads
Right?
tim pool
Is it still going?
It's good?
joey salads
Yeah, I was just making sure that it was going, yeah.
tim pool
So, I think the point's like painfully clear.
You weren't banned.
You're making content now.
And now your content is really, like, it's family-friendly, right?
It's like... I mean... Not all of it.
joey salads
Yeah.
tim pool
No, but I mean, like, some dude getting sprayed, like... So, it's like, you can watch his video, but he opens a purse and milk hits him in the face and he starts waving his arms.
And it's funny.
And I laughed.
And I'm like, it's so dramatically different.
But there are a lot of people I've seen Who, I don't want to name drop anybody because I don't want to really, you know, push people who are already down through the mud.
But it's like, it's like pot.
It's like you take this person who did basically nothing.
He broke no rules.
You get him banned.
And now he's on the only other social network that will accept him where he's surrounded by actual neo-Nazis.
You know?
unidentified
Yeah.
And it's like, I just hate the fact that people think that it's impossible to be redeemed.
They'll pull something off him.
joey salads
It's been pretty much three years now.
tim pool
And they're still pulling it up.
joey salads
And they're still pulling it up.
Oh, aren't you the... I'll comment on AOC's thing.
Alexander has his tweets.
And I'll post a picture of you as... And I'll post a photo of me.
A Nazi, aren't you?
The racist, baiting, social experiment guy.
It's like, if you knew anything about me, if you knew, if you followed up on the story afterwards, you'll see that things have changed.
tim pool
Think about this.
Think about if those people said, hey, aren't you that guy who did that stupid Nazi thing?
That's really screwed up that people are treating you poorly.
Why don't you come hang out with us and help us do some good work?
Imagine if people on the left said, I'm not going to hold this over you, Joey.
I want you to do better.
Imagine if these leftists who wanted to push these ideologies were willing to bring you in.
You got a million plus subscribers.
I don't know.
You got millions of fans.
If they were willing to say, well, you know what?
Joey did wrong.
But if he's willing to redeem himself, he could be a very powerful voice for good.
They don't.
joey salads
They don't think that far ahead.
tim pool
Yeah, and that's what's crazy to me when I saw Phil dragging you too, because I'm like, at a certain point, the way I described it on Rogan the last time I was on his show is, you could murder somebody and still get out of prison in 25 years.
Sometimes even less.
It's kind of shocking sometimes, but...
Not for the court of public opinion.
You say one wrong word, we ban you for life.
joey salads
That's why when that kid got caught raping somebody, raping the girl, what's his name?
tim pool
I can't remember that guy.
I'm glad I don't remember his name either.
joey salads
People were mad that he didn't Served much prison time or prison time at all, I don't remember, but I'm just like thinking, I'm like, I'd rather go to jail than deal with what that guy is dealing with.
Negative backlash?
Yeah, his entire life he's going to be known as that guy who raped somebody.
I would rather spend a couple years in jail than deal with that for an entire lifetime.
tim pool
I mean, that's a good point.
I think that guy's one of the worst people on the planet.
joey salads
Yeah, of course.
tim pool
That's disgusting.
joey salads
I'm not saying, I'm not justifying anything he did.
What I'm saying is the punishment of the public opinion.
I think that's worse.
tim pool
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think, yeah, that dude is like, and that's actually why the offender registry is actually brought up in a lot of debates.
But you know what?
There are still some people that I'm going to say Fuck that guy.
And he's absolutely one of them.
joey salads
Who is fuck that guy?
tim pool
But here's the thing.
It is true.
As much as I'm like, man, you brought that guy up, and I'm like, ooh, but I really, really fucking hate that.
unidentified
Like, ooh.
tim pool
And I'm willing to swear.
I never swear.
But at a certain point, you do have to recognize, what are you going to do?
What do we do with him?
Do we lock him up, throw away the key?
I don't know.
I really don't know.
I think there are some crimes, life in prison.
I'm against death penalty.
Absolutely.
joey salads
I think they should have a choice.
If you're gonna have life in prison, it's like, we can kill you right now, or you're gonna spend life in jail.
tim pool
I'm against that penalty.
I think it should be... Well, I mean, you can choose to do that if you want, but... Let's not go too far in the wrong direction, that's gonna become a crazy conversation.
But, like, let's simmer down from the guy who's probably one of the worst people in our culture, right?
unidentified
That guy, man, that's a tough... The fact that he had such, like, everybody...
joey salads
100% of people were against him.
tim pool
Oh yeah.
Even I'm unwilling to defend the guy.
And we're talking about redemption.
I'm like, damn, you put me in a corner, man.
I don't want to fucking give that guy any time.
joey salads
I feel like the fact that everybody was against this dude kind of disproves what the left was doing with that story.
Saying, oh, this is acceptable by, you know, white straight people.
tim pool
Oh yeah, no, exactly.
Like, nobody wants that.
That dude's a monster.
unidentified
Oh, who was it?
It was when, like, Logan Paul was getting a lot of flack for his stuff.
And he'd still get shit for tasing a dead mouse.
tim pool
What?
I'm, like, thinking about, like... But the Pauls are another good point, too.
joey salads
Like... Hella redemption right there.
tim pool
When... Who was it?
Jake, who filmed the body?
joey salads
Logan.
tim pool
Logan filmed the body.
Vice was very, very close to the same thing.
They filmed a skeleton.
And so I have to imagine that if you're someone like him, you saw the success of Vice's Suicide Forest video, you thought, I want to do the same thing.
And you take it one step further, top the ante, and then you cross that line.
And then everyone's trying to destroy him for it.
So I think the important segue here is, there are some people that even I don't want to go near in terms of defending.
And man, that's a philosophical conundrum in my head.
But saying a naughty word on Twitter and getting banned for life That's extreme, right?
That's just so extreme, that can only lead to bad things.
So, I'll say this.
Sure, I think there are certain things you can do that get you punishment for life.
But, making objectionable content, like you did?
No, I think we need to figure out how to leverage your force for good, because you have people who follow you.
Saying bad opinions on Twitter?
Well, you're allowed to have opinions.
I guess everybody has a line, but I'm just saying, the way that social media is working today, Man, the line is really, really thin, you know?
It's like, you don't even know.
You're walking on a razor wire.
unidentified
Yeah.
So I'm trying to use what I know on the back end, what I know in manipulation, I want to use that knowledge for good.
So that's why I call out shit like the Jesse Smollett situation.
Yeah, yeah.
joey salads
Called it out ten minutes after the story dropped.
unidentified
Made a video on it, and half the people are cursing me out, calling me racist.
joey salads
And I'm like, I know, I know, I can tell.
I've done this exact same thing before.
tim pool
And to be fair, like even Dr. Phil on Joe Rogan's podcast was like, mmm, I don't know about that one.
And Joe said that, he's like, as soon as we were done, he let me take the headphones off and we're like, no.
unidentified
Yeah, I saw that.
tim pool
And you know, if there's still a .1% chance to tell him the truth, I just really doubt it.
joey salads
Very unlikely.
But, I guess we'll just do one- At least I didn't fucking use up the police's resources to find the people who don't exist.
tim pool
But I guess I'll just do one more quick question.
Actually, I totally forgot what I was going to ask you.
I don't know, do you want to just, any final thoughts?
Because we've gone a pretty long time.
unidentified
Any important... I don't know, is there anything you want to specifically want to hone in on?
tim pool
You know, because I wanted to, I feel like we just might be getting into beating a dead horse and saying things over and over again.
I was gonna say I was gonna thinking of asking something about you know from where you're sitting
We've got a media that basically does the same thing you did and they get away with it every day
And there's no one to stop them, but you are you I feel like you already brought that up
unidentified
Yeah, it's like we kind of like touched on everything like yeah, so I think we hit the nail on the head with the
hammer So I guess it's one thing
You can cut this out.
tim pool
No, no, no.
I'm going to do it raw.
unidentified
This is raw.
tim pool
I'm not going to edit this.
unidentified
I'm going to leave them in.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
Whatever, man.
It's a good conversation.
joey salads
What I was going to say is, when Logan Paul, when he made his redemption, The news came out saying people on YouTube are too forgiving of straight white men.
unidentified
Oh yeah.
joey salads
Because it was like some black kid got caught doing something messed up and he got like ran off of YouTube or whatever.
I think I was brought up in the article.
That's how I found it.
And they were like listing like YouTubers that got forgiveness for their mistakes because they were white.
And I've noticed on it they listed Sam Pepper.
I don't know if you know who Sam Pepper is.
tim pool
I know about him, like Lacey Green made a video about him, right?
joey salads
Yeah, he was one of the white straight men who got completely ran off of YouTube.
unidentified
Yeah.
joey salads
So bad he had to delete his channels.
tim pool
But he was like, wasn't he assaulting women?
joey salads
I think he was like touching them in the butt or something like that.
unidentified
But I think the video was totally... Man, get off.
joey salads
Some people, when they get exposed, they can't handle it properly.
He was one of the people who couldn't handle it properly, just digging himself lies, digging himself lies.
Jesse Smollett, digging himself lies.
Ralph Northam, digging himself lies.
Like, they just keep digging and digging.
I got exposed?
Two hours later, I'm on H3H3.
Just, this is what I did.
tim pool
Oh, wow.
When you first got exposed and the news dropped, did your heart just like... I was like, fuck.
joey salads
I'm done.
tim pool
Were you sweating bullets?
joey salads
Like, oh my god, dude.
Yeah, I was like, shit.
unidentified
I was like, you just gotta grab the bull by the horns.
joey salads
I'm like, let me just come clean about everything.
tim pool
Yeah.
joey salads
Let's not beat around the bush.
Let me not try to dig myself out of this by... Lying.
Lying more.
I go, the truth is out.
Let me just say the truth and then work on that in the future.
tim pool
Yeah, and, um, you know, if only that message resonated with BuzzFeed when their story was debunked after Michael Cohen testified and said Trump didn't tell a lie.
And I use that example because it's relevant.
It just happened.
But, listen, when you have the editor-in-chief of BuzzFeed refuse to acknowledge they were wrong, okay, fine, don't say they were lying, but they were wrong.
They published fake news.
We know they did.
Think about all the other stories where we didn't get the testimony to prove the lie.
Right?
Think about all the YouTubers who might still be doing the same thing you did, who haven't been caught.
You know what I mean?
Like, the bad people are there.
unidentified
There was, um, Adam Saleh, Muslim YouTuber.
joey salads
He got exposed for faking a lot of stuff.
Yeah, he did that airplane thing where he claimed- The airplane one, he got a fake cop and pretended like the cop was, like, arresting him for being a Muslim.
It was like- He was going the other direction.
Yeah, it was like, he was doing it in the opposite direction.
unidentified
And he got like a tenth of the amount of scrutiny.
tim pool
The left, because the left is, the cultural identitarian left is mainstream and acceptable.
joey salads
And the thing is, they took his stories and the mainstream ran with his stories as fact because it fit their narrative.
Once it got exposed that it was fake, they just shuffled it to the side.
tim pool
It's funny because it's like the overarching picture is of two bad guys, but you're the underdog bad guy.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So the media is not giving you as much attention because you are favoring Trump supporters.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And that's true though.
Like a lot of Trump supporters liked what you're putting out because it was proving their worldview.
Like, ah, this proves it.
You get caught and the left says, aha, this proves our worldview.
But the problem is when the left gets caught, the left zip.
They shuffle it down the memory hole.
Forget about it.
I think we've gone for a really long video.
I was normally expecting to do 10 or 15 minutes, but I guess we'll just leave it there, man,
if there's any final say goodbye or whatever.
unidentified
If you live in Staten Island, vote for me for Congress.
tim pool
So that's an official announcement?
joey salads
You're running.
I mean, I posted it on Twitter and Facebook.
tim pool
Don't you gotta do a bunch of campaign finance stuff now?
joey salads
Yeah, I'm working on that stuff now.
I've got the bank account set up and everything.
tim pool
Right on, man.
Well, to everybody who watched, you can follow me on Mines at Timcast.
And the reason I've been pushing Mines a lot is because they've got this community tool.
It's really cool.
If you've made it this far and you're hearing me, I'm going to tell you now.
There's like a news feed where you can actually post and then we have a moderator who proves
your story.
So if you want to share news, it appears in this feed while it's a chat room on the other
side.
It's actually, I'm not saying this because Mines is like an alternative platform.
It's like safer for censorship.
I'm saying like literally their group function actually works really well for what we want to do.
So follow me there.
I'm gonna have more videos on my second channel, youtube.com slash TeamCastaNews at 6 p.m.
Eastern Time.
And I will see you guys tomorrow.
Or no, I'll see you at 6 p.m.
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