Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Democrats CONCEDE Redistricting War, Trump Has DONE IT | Timcast IRL
Aired: 2026-05-14
Duration: 03:06:23


=== Venice AI and Redistricting (04:22) ===

[00:02:25]  Spanberger in Virginia has conceded.
[00:02:28]  They are going to be using the old maps for their congressional redistricting.
[00:02:32]  It's not going to happen.
[00:02:33]  They're going to be using the old maps, not the new ones.
[00:02:35]  The congressional redistricting is not going to happen.
[00:02:38]  Now, they're still challenging the Supreme Court, but it won't matter because in 2026, they have to use their old maps, keeping four Republican seats safe, which means without Virginia, they've basically lost.
[00:02:49]  This was going to be a massive grab for them, four extra seats.
[00:02:53]  Republicans are moving forward with South Carolina.
[00:02:55]  The governor has announced they are going to have a special session for redistricting.
[00:03:00]  We may see more.
[00:03:01]  Georgia says they'll do it in 2028, but maybe this actually makes sense.
[00:03:05]  In the end, Republicans turned what was supposed to be historically a Democrat opportunity into an effective toss up.
[00:03:12]  So it seems Republicans probably going to win.
[00:03:15]  I don't know for sure, but Democrats are miserable in the polls.
[00:03:19]  Right now, they're at the margin of error, the congressional generic.
[00:03:22]  This is CNN reporting margin of error.
[00:03:24]  They're up three points, but the polls tend to favor Democrats.
[00:03:27]  So it's looking very, very good for Republicans.
[00:03:29]  This is.
[00:03:30]  Their concession.
[00:03:31]  I think the Republicans may have won enough to get the job done.
[00:03:35]  So when it comes to Georgia, maybe they actually want to keep that one in the back pocket for 2028 so they can adapt if they need to.
[00:03:43]  Although it's probably just easier to say that Kemp is weak and won't get the job done and he's stalling.
[00:03:48]  So I guess we'll see about that.
[00:03:50]  We'll talk about that.
[00:03:51]  Plus, of course, Kamala Harris has basically said it's time for all out balls of the wall war.
[00:03:55]  She says if Democrats win, redistrict, pack the courts, take everything, lock them up.
[00:04:00]  Yikes.
[00:04:01]  Donald Trump, on the other hand, is going to create a $1.7 billion fund for anybody who was wronged by the Biden administration called the Weaponization Fund.
[00:04:08]  So, this is big, big news.
[00:04:09]  And then I think the most fun news aliens, because apparently now there are more videos.
[00:04:16]  One of the stories that got released recently, or that people are still digging through these UFO files, claims that aliens actually made contact with humans back in the 50s and gave us a warning.
[00:04:26]  So, there's a lot to question on that.
[00:04:28]  But the big story, of course, that's been lingering for the past week or so is this meeting with government officials and pastors.
[00:04:34]  Warning them about aliens.
[00:04:36]  So we'll talk all about that and a lot more.
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=== Privacy Advocates and Polling (08:59) ===

[00:06:48]  So a lot of people are tuned out and they're like, I just don't care anymore.
[00:06:50]  It's going to kick up, it's going to have a bigger impact.
[00:06:53]  And there certainly is a lot to talk about right now with like gas prices and inflation and all of that stuff.
[00:06:57]  And aliens.
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[00:07:04]  Don't forget to also smash that like button, share the show with everyone you know joining us tonight to talk about this and so much.
[00:07:11]  We actually have two guests.
[00:07:13]  Alan, do you want to go first?
[00:07:14]  Yeah, my name is Alan Dadio.
[00:07:15]  I'm the pastor of Revival Nation Church in Charlotte, North Carolina.
[00:07:18]  And I was in said meeting, so we're going to clear up a lot of the confusion around that about the aliens today.
[00:07:23]  And I just realized those videos you were playing of skateboarders was AI.
[00:07:26]  I'm just telling you.
[00:07:27]  You thought it was real?
[00:07:28]  I thought it was real.
[00:07:28]  That's how real it looked.
[00:07:29]  Wow.
[00:07:30]  Yeah.
[00:07:30]  So, aliens are real.
[00:07:32]  Well, we'll see.
[00:07:32]  We'll see.
[00:07:33]  Okay.
[00:07:34]  So, this has generated a lot of attention, but you were there, so you can tell us actually what happened.
[00:07:37]  And I'm sure it's much more mundane and boring as it always is.
[00:07:41]  We'll find some way to spice it up.
[00:07:43]  Yeah.
[00:07:43]  Well, it's great to have you.
[00:07:44]  We got Matthew here.
[00:07:46]  Who are you?
[00:07:46]  Matthew Farachi.
[00:07:47]  I am now a Tim Pool frequent flyer guest.
[00:07:51]  Tim, I want my little wings or something like that.
[00:07:54]  Can you provide them?
[00:07:55]  Maybe a little gold skateboard that I could have here.
[00:07:58]  We give you like cross swords.
[00:07:59]  After your fifth time, you get a badge.
[00:08:02]  But okay, I'll keep coming back.
[00:08:05]  You make sure, okay?
[00:08:07]  I'm the founder of a group called Torch QRF, and we are solving the religious freedom, but that's a bad word.
[00:08:14]  Christian genocide is the word because it's happening all over the world.
[00:08:19]  Every two hours, a Christian gets killed in sub Saharan Africa.
[00:08:24]  70% of those are in Nigeria.
[00:08:26]  Lots of people are talking about it, but nobody's solving it.
[00:08:28]  It has to stop.
[00:08:30]  Well, right on.
[00:08:30]  Thanks for joining us.
[00:08:31]  Ian's here.
[00:08:32]  I am here.
[00:08:32]  I'm a resident skeptic.
[00:08:34]  Highly skeptical of all things non provable, but also I've been in touch with God and spirits, which is very strange anecdotally.
[00:08:41]  So it believes everything and nothing at the same time.
[00:08:43]  I'm here to square the circle with Carter Banks.
[00:08:45]  I've been observing and I've been trying very hard to make sure no one talks about aliens until we started the show.
[00:08:51]  So I'm really pumped to get into all this.
[00:08:53]  Indeed.
[00:08:53]  But before we do, we got some politics to go through.
[00:08:55]  We got the story from the Washington Examiner.
[00:08:57]  Spanberger concedes defeat on redistricting and says 2026 elections will use the old map.
[00:09:05]  In fact, 270 to win.
[00:09:07]  Has already reverted back to the old Virginia map.
[00:09:10]  Look at that.
[00:09:11]  Look at that beautiful county right there.
[00:09:13]  That's right.
[00:09:14]  VA6, good old Winchester.
[00:09:16]  We live right up here in West Virginia.
[00:09:18]  So look at this.
[00:09:19]  We have our choices between VA10, which is deep blue, and VA6, which is red.
[00:09:25]  So we got this reporting.
[00:09:26]  Spamberger confirmed Virginia would use its current congressional map drawn in 2021 rather than the Democratic drawn map.
[00:09:32]  Her confirmation, the state retains its current map consisting of six Democrat and five Republican districts, clarifies how the Democratic governor will proceed as the litigation plays out.
[00:09:40]  Over this year's redraw.
[00:09:42]  Her comments in an interview with WTOP News come just days after State Attorney General Jay Jones filed an emergency petition to the U.S. Supreme Court, misspelled in several instances, by the way, which was weird, vergnia, and centator.
[00:09:57]  Those are not words, but sure.
[00:09:59]  He was in a hurry.
[00:10:00]  What can we say?
[00:10:02]  Spamberger told the outlet that the petition to the Supreme Court is important, but when it comes to the execution of elections, no matter the outcome of the case, we'll be running our elections beginning next month with early voting on the current maps that we have, which means, ladies and gentlemen, The current breakdown by polls is 209 Republican to 207 Democrat.
[00:10:19]  There's only six at risk Republican districts, 14 at risk Democrat districts, and 19 toss ups.
[00:10:26]  This in every way.
[00:10:27]  I'm going to stress not only do they have two extra seats just based on polling, they only have six vulnerable seats.
[00:10:34]  So if there is a polling error that swings 10 points, they could theoretically only lose upwards of six, which would be bad.
[00:10:40]  Democrats would still win.
[00:10:41]  But Democrats would have to take almost every single swing district.
[00:10:46]  I got to tell you, boys, it sounds like Republicans have a really good chance to buck the historical trend.
[00:10:52]  And keep the midterms this year, which would be insane.
[00:10:55]  And Donald Trump would basically just do whatever he wants after that.
[00:10:58]  Yeah, that'd be historic.
[00:10:59]  I think Hakeem Jeffries called it Jim Crow 2.0, which concerns me because it seems like everything's, it seems like we would be at 3.0 by now or 4.0.
[00:11:07]  We're calling everything Jim Crow.
[00:11:08]  That's right.
[00:11:11]  Yeah, it's mind blowing to me.
[00:11:14]  I feel like God keeps doing miracles to save the country.
[00:11:17]  Oh, yeah, save the country.
[00:11:19]  Yeah.
[00:11:19]  Well, the interesting thing about it is that Trump's approval is actually.
[00:11:24]  Down quite a bit.
[00:11:25]  His approval on the economy is miserable.
[00:11:28]  Unfavorability is like 70%.
[00:11:31]  But here's what's weird.
[00:11:32]  Despite the fact that Trump has really bad polling on the economy, largely because of gas prices and the war with Iran, Democrats are declining in the polls.
[00:11:40]  The faith in, I think, the government is declining in general.
[00:11:42]  No, I got to stress this.
[00:11:45]  On Republicans, I think, what is it, on CNN's polling, on the economy, the Republican Party is viewed as 50 50.
[00:11:53]  Trump is viewed massively negatively, but Democrats are going down.
[00:11:58]  I agree with you on the faith in government thing, but to this point, I'm making right now is why are Democrats declining when they're not in power?
[00:12:05]  Because Kamala Harris.
[00:12:06]  Because she won't stop talking.
[00:12:08]  I think it's because they haven't really supplied a vision for the future.
[00:12:12]  So they've just yelled a lot about, we got to stop, we got to stop.
[00:12:15]  And if you know anything about politics, yelling no, don't isn't the way to get the votes in to go forward.
[00:12:20]  You might scare people into winning one election, but then we immunized against it.
[00:12:25]  And the Kamala Harris debacle, where they tried to force a candidate onto us without a primary, was egregious.
[00:12:31]  And I think people are disenfranchised and disgusted by it, actually.
[00:12:35]  Yeah, this is really weird that the fact that Trump is going down, but Democrats are going down.
[00:12:38]  Normally, they kind of coincide with one another.
[00:12:40]  And normally, in the midterms, the party that's out of power wins.
[00:12:45]  It's really odd to see this happening right here.
[00:12:47]  They're not, like you said, providing an alternative vision.
[00:12:51]  They're just saying, no, Yeah, maybe that's it.
[00:12:54]  Maybe people are just fatigued to the point where it's like, listen, I get it.
[00:12:57]  Trump shouldn't have started this war.
[00:12:58]  Gas prices went up, but Democrats are going to do the same thing anyway.
[00:13:02]  And what are they offering?
[00:13:04]  They like to talk big game on TV, but I, honest question, like, what have the Democrats proposed for the midterms?
[00:13:10]  Well, they do offer like tampons in the men's restroom, so that's one thing.
[00:13:14]  Yeah, but I, in all seriousness, can you think of, I mean, seriously, can you think of anything a Democrat, prominent Democrats, come out and said, here's what we'll do for the American people?
[00:13:22]  Their entire message has been just being against Trump.
[00:13:25]  Yeah.
[00:13:25]  They have talked about removing the First Amendment.
[00:13:27]  That'll be wildly popular, especially on shows like Tim Pool.
[00:13:31]  We'd support that.
[00:13:32]  Yeah, we got, it was actually interesting.
[00:13:33]  We got censored yesterday.
[00:13:34]  It was very funny because.
[00:13:36]  It's true.
[00:13:36]  This is what YouTube does.
[00:13:38]  So, when that story broke that the CIA raided Tulsi's office, which was not true, by the way, you know, I see this message.
[00:13:44]  I don't believe it.
[00:13:45]  I'm like, this is crazy.
[00:13:46]  How is this possible?
[00:13:46]  Like, the CIA doesn't do domestic operations like that.
[00:13:49]  And I pulled it up, and there's Jesse Waters saying, breaking the CIA's raided the office.
[00:13:53]  And I was like, what?
[00:13:53]  And he's citing Rep Luna.
[00:13:54]  And I'm like, here we have Fox confirming it, a member of Congress saying this happened.
[00:13:59]  And I'm like, I guess this happened.
[00:14:01]  Once we started talking about it, our show disappeared from YouTube.
[00:14:04]  Wow.
[00:14:05]  Really?
[00:14:05]  On Rumble and X, it was fine.
[00:14:07]  But people watching on YouTube said the stream's gone.
[00:14:10]  Which indicates if our stream, our bitrate is perfect, because I can see it right here, it's perfect, no drop frames.
[00:14:16]  And Rumble and X are streaming with no problem, but YouTube goes down.
[00:14:21]  It could have been a tech glitch, but it's not the first time.
[00:14:23]  It's not the first time.
[00:14:24]  We dropped tens of thousands of viewers, and then they all started to come back and mess.
[00:14:29]  Once we were done talking about it, we debunked it, by the way, in real time as we were going through it.
[00:14:33]  We're like, okay, here's what really happened.
[00:14:36]  But yeah, on X and Rumble, not a hitch, no problems.
[00:14:39]  Sounds like a men in black type of tech glitch.
[00:14:42]  Sounds like, you know what?
[00:14:43]  I can tell you this.
[00:14:44]  A long time ago, I was at a streaming company's HQ.
[00:14:47]  Take a guess, I've been to a bunch of them.
[00:14:49]  And they have moderators who have a screen and they've got 100 live streams going on at once.
[00:14:55]  And then they've got algorithms that detect potential, you know, aberrant behavior.
[00:15:00]  And then they'll see like there was a red, yellow, and green circle on it or something like a light.
[00:15:09]  Indicator, yeah.
[00:15:09]  Yeah.
[00:15:10]  And then if streams were, the algorithm was starting to think like this might get, Crazy, it would move them up to the top left where it thought they were the most likely to break the rules.
[00:15:21]  And I was like, What does that mean?
[00:15:22]  They're like women getting naked mostly.
[00:15:24]  So, if there is a woman and she's wearing revealing clothing, it'll immediately move her to the top and give a yellow light, like warning, she might break the rules.
[00:15:32]  And there are some people they know break the rules.
[00:15:34]  So they've already moved to it.
[00:15:36]  And then a light turns red and he's like, Yeah, look, she's taking her clothes off.
[00:15:40]  And he X's it out and they're gone.
[00:15:41]  Streams off.
[00:15:42]  I imagine that's AI now.
[00:15:43]  They got AI doing it.
[00:15:44]  And it's not just green, yellow, and red.
[00:15:46]  It's probably like 100.

=== Foreign Governments and Rules (15:06) ===

[00:15:47]  Zero to 100 now.
[00:15:48]  And it's like, ooh, watching you and getting ready to prep and then spotting your show for nine seconds, bumping your stream for nine seconds.
[00:15:56]  I got to bring this up every time we talk about it with the balance of power.
[00:15:59]  I mean, it's only mid May.
[00:16:01]  So we're looking at about five and a half months until we get to election day.
[00:16:04]  But I do not understand how anybody thinks Democrats can sweep.
[00:16:09]  Only if there was like a disregard of the Supreme Court.
[00:16:13]  But I don't think that can happen.
[00:16:14]  No, the Senate.
[00:16:14]  They can't win the Senate.
[00:16:15]  It's not possible.
[00:16:17]  Democrats cannot be sweeping.
[00:16:18]  Math isn't there.
[00:16:19]  It's just looking at the history, though, because traditionally that's what happens.
[00:16:22]  No, but not the Senate.
[00:16:23]  So my point is this.
[00:16:24]  Oh, I see.
[00:16:24]  How are people putting money at 41% wagering up?
[00:16:29]  There's $5 million wagered between these brackets, and 41% yes on Democrat, House, and Senate, despite the fact that means they have to flip Alaska with a three time incumbent.
[00:16:39]  That's not happening.
[00:16:41]  Like, unless the deep state knows something, I don't.
[00:16:44]  And so people are putting money on it.
[00:16:46]  Or if it's like an Iranian deep state ploy to trick the people into thinking something.
[00:16:52]  50 Republican seats are held.
[00:16:54]  JD Vance is the tiebreaker.
[00:16:56]  Republicans hold the Senate.
[00:16:57]  Wow.
[00:16:58]  So they would have to flip Alaska.
[00:17:00]  With a three term incumbent, that's not going to happen.
[00:17:02]  You are not flipping a Republican state with an incumbent.
[00:17:06]  It's just, if he was retiring, we're like, okay, this is going to get interesting.
[00:17:10]  But it's not.
[00:17:11]  It's a Republican state with an incumbent.
[00:17:12]  It's not happening.
[00:17:13]  That means they have to win every toss up.
[00:17:17]  Every toss up plus Alaska.
[00:17:18]  Yeah, that's right.
[00:17:19]  That's right.
[00:17:20]  Yeah, not going to happen.
[00:17:21]  Also, Tim, there's a lot of baseball between now and then.
[00:17:24]  We're talking about the state of things right now.
[00:17:26]  Trump's going to fix what's going on in Iran by then.
[00:17:30]  They're going to focus on.
[00:17:31]  Well, I heard that.
[00:17:32]  I said, I've heard that one.
[00:17:34]  I know, but I think he will.
[00:17:36]  And because that's what they're thinking about all the time is how to get ready for the midterms.
[00:17:41]  And also, look, we talked about this, Tim.
[00:17:44]  People's memories are like maybe eight seconds long at this point.
[00:17:48]  So, when, you know, my prediction is that August or September, Trump's going to announce we're suspending the gas tax.
[00:17:57]  Democrats, whose only position is no Trump, are going to fight it.
[00:18:00]  And then Trump's going to be like, we're trying to make gas cheap for everybody, and the Democrats won't let us.
[00:18:04]  Right.
[00:18:05]  And then they're going to be like, why are Democrats doing that?
[00:18:07]  Right.
[00:18:07]  Right.
[00:18:08]  And they'll forget how the gas got so expensive.
[00:18:09]  That's what I'm saying.
[00:18:10]  It's a million years.
[00:18:11]  The midterms are a million years from the midterms for us that are watching.
[00:18:14]  The important thing to consider, too, is that we're talking about districts.
[00:18:16]  We're not talking about states.
[00:18:18]  So you really got to understand when it comes to a district, like let's jump over to Ohio.
[00:18:23]  Ohio's ninth with Marcy Kaptur.
[00:18:25]  It's a toss up from a Democrat.
[00:18:28]  And we don't know what the interests of that district are going to be.
[00:18:33]  Donald Trump coming out and talking about gas prices is not going to matter all that much for the Republican who's running there.
[00:18:37]  The Republican who's running there has to speak specifically to this tiny geographic area.
[00:18:42]  You know, which is, I don't know, what are they concerned with there?
[00:18:44]  Like Great Lake algal blooms or something?
[00:18:47]  You know what I mean?
[00:18:48]  That's in the Northeast?
[00:18:49]  No, it's in the West.
[00:18:51]  I mean, Northeast Ohio?
[00:18:52]  Yeah.
[00:18:52]  The Massey thing is going to be.
[00:18:54]  What do they care about, Ian?
[00:18:54]  You're from that place.
[00:18:55]  Northwest Ohio, see your point.
[00:18:57]  Make sure the roller coasters are running.
[00:18:58]  Yeah, make sure the roller coasters are running.
[00:19:00]  That's it.
[00:19:01]  Well, Trump's not going to go on TV and say, we're going to fix the roller coasters.
[00:19:04]  There's a lot of lake issues going on.
[00:19:05]  I know, Tim.
[00:19:07]  So why are people then betting on them to win?
[00:19:09]  Are they betting on the Democrats' willingness to go as far as they can?
[00:19:13]  Election integrity?
[00:19:14]  That's not a bad bet, to be honest.
[00:19:15]  Yeah.
[00:19:16]  Like, are the Democrats willing to do whatever it takes?
[00:19:19]  They've got a history of that.
[00:19:20]  And, like, we, this came up last week that these markets may be being manipulated by foreign money.
[00:19:25]  It's only five million bucks.
[00:19:26]  So, like, somebody, some foreign government.
[00:19:28]  100%.
[00:19:29]  Think about this, too.
[00:19:29]  Look, the Democrats are, they're always trying to repackage socialism or communism, whatever you want to call it.
[00:19:36]  They're always trying to repackage their policies.
[00:19:38]  The problem is for them, they're being taken over by the DSC types.
[00:19:43]  That's Democratic Socialists of America.
[00:19:45]  You know that.
[00:19:46]  So, the Momdanis, AOC got kicked out of.
[00:19:49]  DSC, because she was too, whatever.
[00:19:51]  She wasn't crazy enough.
[00:19:53]  Wait, the DSA kicked her out?
[00:19:54]  Not socialist enough?
[00:19:55]  I believe so.
[00:19:56]  Yeah.
[00:19:57]  I think she's out.
[00:19:57]  I think she's out.
[00:20:00]  So, because they're being taken over by the DSC, fact check me, Tim.
[00:20:04]  No, she unendorsed them.
[00:20:05]  Or she unendorsed them?
[00:20:06]  Yeah.
[00:20:07]  Okay.
[00:20:07]  She quit.
[00:20:08]  So, this is AOC trying to repackage, but they're being taken over by the DSC.
[00:20:14]  Sorry, they've endorsed her.
[00:20:15]  She unendorsed them, I guess.
[00:20:17]  Okay.
[00:20:18]  I stand corrected.
[00:20:19]  But the DSA is taking them over.
[00:20:21]  I'm sorry.
[00:20:22]  Fact check.
[00:20:22]  You're going to roller coasters.
[00:20:23]  Yeah, exactly.
[00:20:24]  So, July 10th, 2024, they announced that they endorsed, rep, they had endorsed her.
[00:20:33]  And then they published on July 12th, 2024, the real story behind DSA's decision to unendorse AOC.
[00:20:41]  Oh, I'm sorry.
[00:20:42]  Okay.
[00:20:42]  No, no, no.
[00:20:43]  I got this all wrong.
[00:20:44]  They unendorsed her in 2024.
[00:20:46]  Okay.
[00:20:47]  Right.
[00:20:47]  So, she wasn't cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs enough.
[00:20:50]  Yeah.
[00:20:50]  So you can see that she's trying to repackage herself.
[00:20:54]  But while the party is having this fight between the old school, like the Pelosi types and the Schumer types, they've got the Democratic Socialist types taking over the party.
[00:21:04]  I talked to a member of Congress yesterday who was telling me about the platform moving far to the left in the Democratic Party, and it's like a free fall.
[00:21:14]  And so you've got this inundation of these new guys, these new, even more radical guys.
[00:21:20]  The old school Democrats don't know what to do.
[00:21:22]  So their party's in crisis.
[00:21:25]  And that's, but I think that's temporary, unfortunately.
[00:21:27]  Till what?
[00:21:29]  That's a question is what happens when, you know, the next generation starts to take over?
[00:21:34]  Are they on board with those kind of, you know, are the, is Momdani successful in New York and some people start to follow him?
[00:21:42]  I don't think he will be.
[00:21:44]  But, but the, the Democratic Party is not, it's unrecognizable because it isn't what, it isn't the Democratic Party that we're familiar with.
[00:21:52]  So those, oh, you got it?
[00:21:53]  Yeah.
[00:21:53]  No, do you want to hit the point?
[00:21:54]  The effects of the democratic, the socialist movement and the communist movement, or whatever that socialist movement is, like, we're moving towards a post money society, according to Elon Musk, where the real value of currency will be how much electrical current do you have and how much payload can you move.
[00:22:08]  And that's about it.
[00:22:09]  So that sort of aligns with the socialist mentality.
[00:22:12]  I can see how that could give it traction.
[00:22:14]  Is this moving towards a post money society?
[00:22:16]  Other than that, I don't.
[00:22:18]  Well, that's what they're trying to do.
[00:22:19]  Let's jump to the story from Fox News, though.
[00:22:21]  This is where it gets fun.
[00:22:23]  Harris's no bad idea brainstorm for Dems includes packing SCOTUS and eliminating the electoral college.
[00:22:29]  Kamala Harris proposed electoral college reform and Supreme Court expansion on a podcast live stream.
[00:22:34]  It's going viral.
[00:22:35]  People think she's going to try and run for office to be president again, which I hope.
[00:22:41]  Please.
[00:22:42]  I'm just so inspired.
[00:22:43]  Kamala, please.
[00:22:43]  Is her slogan going to be Harris 28 unburdened by what has been?
[00:22:48]  Yeah, I think it'll be Harris 28, I know I can't win by my book.
[00:22:52]  Oh, it's for an AOC on stage.
[00:22:55]  It's got to be.
[00:22:55]  And she's going to act like the mom with all the wisdom, and she's going to be so annoying.
[00:23:00]  I'm going to say right now, I desperately hope that it's Harris 28.
[00:23:03]  Ocasio Cortez 2028.
[00:23:05]  Yes.
[00:23:05]  And then it's going to be funny in November of 2028 when we're sitting here with our jaws on the floor and they've won and we're like, what did we.
[00:23:14]  I don't think they'll run on the same ticket.
[00:23:17]  I don't think so.
[00:23:18]  Two women of color.
[00:23:19]  They're both going to run.
[00:23:20]  They've got to.
[00:23:21]  They've got to.
[00:23:21]  I want to see Harris explaining to AOC that you're going to be able to see the craters on the moon with your own eyes.
[00:23:28]  I want to hear her talking about how magical buses are to AOC.
[00:23:31]  That's what I want to see in the campaign.
[00:23:32]  And perhaps ask AOC if she's fallen from a coconut tree.
[00:23:36]  That's right.
[00:23:36]  You know?
[00:23:37]  Which is something that I don't understand.
[00:23:39]  Did you guys see the breaking story that there's an LA mayor, a lady running for mayor, who wants to ban backyard barbecues on certain days?
[00:23:45]  No.
[00:23:46]  So I don't know if she was in that meeting.
[00:23:47]  No bad idea.
[00:23:48]  Wait, wait, wait.
[00:23:49]  Wait, what?
[00:23:49]  There's an LA mayor candidate.
[00:23:52]  Her name is Rahman.
[00:23:53]  She suggests banning backyard barbecues on certain days.
[00:23:57]  Probably July 4th.
[00:23:59]  Yep.
[00:23:59]  Because that's a capitalist imperialist day.
[00:24:01]  Or all days except for June 19th.
[00:24:05]  Yeah.
[00:24:06]  What days does she want to ban barbecuing on?
[00:24:08]  She hasn't suggested the days yet, but I'm sure she's working on that in the brainstorm session.
[00:24:11]  Okay.
[00:24:12]  Let's be fair, no one's actually barbecuing.
[00:24:14]  They're grilling.
[00:24:15]  Pastor, what do you think is worse that or the Arcadia mayor who admitted to being a Chinese agent?
[00:24:22]  That's hilarious, by the way.
[00:24:23]  I wondered if Eric Swalwell sent her a request on Match.com.
[00:24:27]  He has a type, you know.
[00:24:30]  Yeah, that's why I'm like California mayor resigns admitting to be an agent for China.
[00:24:35]  And you know what they say?
[00:24:38]  Chinese spies are like cockroaches.
[00:24:41]  If there's one, there's a thousand.
[00:24:42]  You can't see, you know what I mean?
[00:24:43]  I kind of feel good about China these days since yesterday, since they all went over there.
[00:24:47]  I feel like China.
[00:24:48]  All friends now.
[00:24:49]  Yeah, China and America finally allied.
[00:24:52]  We've had a tenuous alliance.
[00:24:53]  And have you read a single thing that came out of those meetings?
[00:24:56]  Xi Jinping once. said America's collapsing and they should surrender.
[00:24:59]  And Trump said, I will destroy you.
[00:25:01]  Oh, really?
[00:25:02]  Yeah.
[00:25:03]  Well, I think they're both aligning and they're like, yeah, we're just going to make a technocracy.
[00:25:06]  That's what it seems like.
[00:25:07]  But it's better than fighting.
[00:25:08]  No, what actually happened is Trump and the crew went over there to tell China they will not take over.
[00:25:13]  And Xi Jinping opened up his statement by saying that.
[00:25:17]  We have to avoid Thucydides' trap, which is triggered Trump.
[00:25:22]  You know what that means when he said that?
[00:25:25]  He said, Can we avoid Thucydides' trap?
[00:25:27]  That was Xi Jinping saying, We've won.
[00:25:31]  America has lost.
[00:25:32]  Surrender now.
[00:25:33]  I think he's saying China and the U.S. are the two eminent superpowers, and we have to avoid coming to conflict.
[00:25:39]  Do you know what Thucydides' trap means?
[00:25:40]  That's when two great superpowers emerge, there will be inevitable.
[00:25:43]  No, it doesn't.
[00:25:44]  It means when there is a dominant power about to be surpassed by, when there's an incumbent power.
[00:25:50]  About to be surpassed by an upcoming power, the war breaks out.
[00:25:54]  China was telling the U.S. when he said that, You've lost.
[00:25:58]  We will be the unipolar power in this world, and will you be willing to surrender?
[00:26:04]  That's not what I got out of it.
[00:26:06]  Then Trump responded by saying something to the effect of, How dare you?
[00:26:10]  Well, I thought Trump said that he was talking about, he specified, No, no, Xi Jinping's talking about what happened during the Biden regime.
[00:26:15]  He wasn't talking about us.
[00:26:18]  Is that not the response?
[00:26:19]  I wasn't there for this.
[00:26:19]  He sent them 200 planes, so everything should be good.
[00:26:21]  Cool.
[00:26:21]  Sending him chips.
[00:26:22]  I think the reason he went over there was because Xi Jinping was basically like, hey, you know, we've got like a week left of oil because you've cut off the Strait of Hormuz.
[00:26:30]  And Trump probably laughed and said, what are you going to do about it?
[00:26:33]  We went there with our top diplomats, our top executive, like tech guys.
[00:26:36]  We're dominating them, obviously.
[00:26:38]  Don't you guys know what really happened?
[00:26:40]  They all went over there secretly just to play Settlers of Catan.
[00:26:44]  Okay.
[00:26:45]  And we've got the gas and oil and they've got the rare earth.
[00:26:48]  And that's what that speech was about.
[00:26:50]  Well, the big Settlers of Catan game.
[00:26:52]  Didn't someone say the other day they found lithium in West Virginia?
[00:26:55]  Really?
[00:26:55]  Yeah, 2.6 million tons.
[00:26:57]  Better watch out for fires.
[00:26:58]  A million tons?
[00:26:59]  Yeah.
[00:27:01]  Yep.
[00:27:02]  Lithium in West Virginia is emerging as a major economic and environmental opportunity.
[00:27:06]  Major, major discoveries of lithium in West Virginia.
[00:27:09]  It's very big.
[00:27:09]  I'm joking, but it is a really, this is what it's about, right?
[00:27:12]  Trump's, it's a battle for resources between us and them.
[00:27:17]  And obviously, Trump with Venice making the move in Venezuela.
[00:27:20]  Wow.
[00:27:21]  And then Iran is leveraging against, which is, you just said, leveraging against China for energy.
[00:27:28]  And their leverage on us is the rare earth stuff.
[00:27:30]  Yeah, but we don't actually need them.
[00:27:32]  We have Alaska.
[00:27:33]  And so this was the issue of Democrats over the past 30 years creating false dependency on China to allow them to be ascendant.
[00:27:40]  Trump's turning that around, saying it's not going to happen.
[00:27:42]  And then the Chinese said, from what I read, that they would help the U.S. keep the Strait of Hormuz open.
[00:27:46]  So it sounds like the Chinese and the Americans are allying on solving this Iranian crisis.
[00:27:51]  It sounds like the Chinese need the oil.
[00:27:53]  It sounds like the real debate we're never going to hear about.
[00:27:56]  And Xi Jinping was probably like, Stop with the Strait of Hormuz stuff.
[00:28:00]  We need this oil from Iran.
[00:28:01]  These are all strategic dominoes from Venezuela to the Straits of Hormuz.
[00:28:04]  It's as if Trump's trying to reestablish a new world structure or order.
[00:28:08]  Yeah, I think so.
[00:28:10]  And the people that are.
[00:28:12]  Look, if you think Trump is speaking surface level truth, like, come on.
[00:28:21]  What president has ever come out and just declared their intention?
[00:28:23]  Well, he probably went over there and was like, we're going to give you Taiwan.
[00:28:26]  You're going to back off militarily.
[00:28:28]  We're going to control the world economically and we're going to make sure you guys.
[00:28:31]  Have a massive amount of technology.
[00:28:32]  I doubt he offered up Taiwan.
[00:28:35]  We just can't keep it.
[00:28:36]  We can't militarily keep it without destroying China.
[00:28:39]  I don't think that's that.
[00:28:40]  That doesn't sound like Trump.
[00:28:41]  I don't know that China is bartering.
[00:28:43]  I don't know that China, look, I'm in the minority here, but I don't know that China is going to move on Taiwan militarily because of the economic cost of doing so.
[00:28:51]  They won't.
[00:28:52]  That's the issue because it hurts their own economy if they do that.
[00:28:55]  Right.
[00:28:55]  It would be an economic trade if we did it, I think.
[00:28:58]  They won't fight it.
[00:28:59]  And it seems like the Chinese are giving the Americans enough time to offshore, get their chip manufacturing out of Taiwan.
[00:29:04]  Reestablish a base in the United States.
[00:29:07]  The problem is that China always plays long term, and they're betting that we're going to get a stupid president like the last one that we had, who's going to give them what they want.
[00:29:17]  So all they have to do is ride out Trump, maybe ride out Rubio.
[00:29:21]  Yes, I said it.
[00:29:24]  Maybe ride out Rubio or Vance, let's say.
[00:29:26]  And then they'll get a president who's a fool and concedes to them.
[00:29:31]  And I think they're betting that long term, we're not going to get enough Trump types.
[00:29:36]  We're going to get.
[00:29:37]  Enough dumb types that they can keep taking advantage in the offseason.
[00:29:41]  What about the rumors that their economy is now in shambles and that they can't hang on for much longer?
[00:29:46]  Is there any truth to that?
[00:29:47]  Gordon Chang says that all.
[00:29:49]  You follow Gordon Chang, Tim?
[00:29:51]  He always talks about how China's about to collapse.
[00:29:53]  And I don't want to discount what he says just because it hasn't collapsed yet.
[00:29:58]  But Gordon Chang talks about that all the time.
[00:29:59]  I think that's probably true.
[00:30:01]  I lean towards that.
[00:30:02]  I watched this video from a guy, he's Chinese, and he was saying that China's lying about its population.
[00:30:08]  Now, he didn't go as far as to accuse them of massacring half their population with COVID, but he kind of insinuated it.
[00:30:14]  But he pointed out how pre COVID, all of the photos and videos from major urban centers were insane.
[00:30:20]  People were bumping into each other.
[00:30:22]  Now they're dead, just all completely dead.
[00:30:25]  And he was making the argument that probably China's just been lying about their population size.
[00:30:30]  They built these ghost cities.
[00:30:31]  Are you familiar with these?
[00:30:31]  Of course, yes.
[00:30:32]  And they're empty and they've been in them.
[00:30:33]  Tons of them.
[00:30:34]  Yeah, for 20 years.
[00:30:36]  There's nothing there.
[00:30:36]  They're just fake cities.
[00:30:37]  It's weird.
[00:30:38]  Yeah, and they're empty apartments and stuff like that.
[00:30:40]  Whole cities that are just empty and they've never been occupied.
[00:30:43]  And then Elon Musk talks about how China's long term demographics are messed up because of the one child policy.
[00:30:50]  Yeah.
[00:30:50]  Now they've upped it to two or three, but their demographics are.

=== Fake Cities and Demographics (08:52) ===

[00:30:54]  Going like this.
[00:30:55]  But everybody's demographics are going down.
[00:30:57]  I have to wonder if the depopulation agenda is actually about AI taking over and you want to prevent a Luddite revolution or revolt, just get rid of the people.
[00:31:07]  You know what I mean?
[00:31:09]  Little Skynet thing.
[00:31:09]  That's how China does it.
[00:31:10]  I've been to China working with the underground church in and around Beijing.
[00:31:15]  It's a pretty dark spot spiritually.
[00:31:17]  Oh, yeah.
[00:31:17]  It's a crime to be Christian in China.
[00:31:19]  Yeah.
[00:31:19]  Yeah.
[00:31:19]  Unless, now you can have a church, you can even have a mega church, so long as your sermons are submitted to the To the party approved by the party.
[00:31:27]  There's some weird, like, you have to be pro communist Christian.
[00:31:30]  Like, there's something about it.
[00:31:31]  Yes.
[00:31:31]  But if you're not going to do that, I mean, I remember going into services and they're all planning, okay, if we're raided, here's the exits.
[00:31:37]  We go this way, we go this way.
[00:31:39]  Yeah, that's a different kind of church service.
[00:31:40]  What was that organization you went there with to Beijing, you said?
[00:31:43]  These are just different underground churches I was working with.
[00:31:45]  Underground churches.
[00:31:46]  Hiding from the communist authoritarian machine.
[00:31:48]  You can't even, you don't get invited to the church.
[00:31:51]  Someone will meet with you multiple times, have coffee with you, just to make sure they know who you are before they officially.
[00:31:57]  What you got to do is you go to the beach.
[00:31:58]  And then the person walks up to you and they draw a line in the sand like this, and then you draw the line in the sand.
[00:32:03]  Yeah, the ichthyous.
[00:32:04]  Yeah, that's what they used to do back in the old Roman days.
[00:32:07]  Yeah.
[00:32:07]  Yeah.
[00:32:08]  What is religion like in China?
[00:32:11]  Well, you know, they're mostly atheistic, but the church, underground church, is on fire.
[00:32:15]  I mean, they're just, they're impassioned, they're emboldened, and the persecution there comes in waves.
[00:32:20]  It just depends on whether the government has the bandwidth to focus on them or not, whether they're agitated by them or not.
[00:32:26]  But it just, it comes and goes.
[00:32:28]  Yeah, yeah, no.
[00:32:31]  I'm actually, there's a Chinese pastor who I met with, I met with his daughter, and they, his name's Pastor Jin, and they put him in prison.
[00:32:41]  And Marco Rubio actually called it out.
[00:32:45]  And in fact, his daughter wrote an op ed like two days before the visit.
[00:32:50]  Marco Rubio called it out because they've imprisoned the guy, they put him away, and he has no contact with his family.
[00:32:56]  And even after Rubio calling it out, All they did was give the guy a lawyer through which the family can talk to the lawyer, but they're still not allowed to talk to the guy.
[00:33:07]  So, if you're an act, I think the answer, Pastor, is if you're a real pastor in China, I've been looking up a lot of data on this.
[00:33:13]  If you're a real pastor in China, they're coming after you, yeah, 100%.
[00:33:17]  And if you're a fake state sponsored pastor, you're okay.
[00:33:20]  And they want to have just like in the Soviet Union, they want to have fake pastors to be able to point to it and say, Hey, we have religious freedom, but they don't, and that's because.
[00:33:30]  You know, after Deng Xiaoping, there was that time of openness and reform, and they were, you know, they were chilling out, so to speak.
[00:33:37]  But they've really, especially the current regime, taken it in a more Maoist direction.
[00:33:43]  And it's messes with your head because, on the one hand, they have all this quote unquote tech freedom.
[00:33:48]  Yeah.
[00:33:48]  But on the other hand, they don't have any more.
[00:33:51]  And that technology is used for persecution, by the way.
[00:33:53]  You're being surveilled whenever you're there as a missionary.
[00:33:55]  I knew I was being followed, being surveilled.
[00:33:57]  And I've worked in Muslim countries where we're smuggling Bibles in, where it's not that high tech.
[00:34:02]  It just depends on if you make somebody mad.
[00:34:04]  But in China, they're watching you for you.
[00:34:06]  And you guys know about their social credit score system?
[00:34:09]  Oh, yeah.
[00:34:09]  Somewhat.
[00:34:09]  Like if you behave rightly, you get points.
[00:34:13]  They almost gamified.
[00:34:14]  They actually have numbered systems.
[00:34:16]  So they have the apps you use, like WeChat, for example, right?
[00:34:20]  And essentially, if you.
[00:34:23]  Behave in certain ways.
[00:34:25]  It was explained to me, for example, if you use the regime's talking points from two weeks ago, you get in trouble.
[00:34:31]  What regime?
[00:34:32]  Well, because those are old talking points.
[00:34:33]  They don't matter.
[00:34:34]  You got to use the regime's talking points from this week, right?
[00:34:38]  Because they keep shifting whatever the talking points are.
[00:34:40]  Anyway, they measure your behavior and you get privileges and quote unquote freedoms and money and whatever based on your behavior.
[00:34:48]  Let me ask you a question.
[00:34:49]  What if we had that here in the United States?
[00:34:50]  How would you feel?
[00:34:52]  Well, the Biden administration, didn't they put somebody in prison for praying outside of a.
[00:34:57]  An abortion clinic?
[00:34:59]  Didn't the Biden administration?
[00:34:59]  I don't know about that story.
[00:35:00]  They were working on that.
[00:35:02]  Don't you remember?
[00:35:02]  There were a lot of stories about the Biden administration.
[00:35:04]  I know that happened in the UK.
[00:35:05]  Yeah, maybe that's what I'm saying.
[00:35:07]  Because it's illegal in the UK to pray.
[00:35:08]  And so a woman was standing outside of an abortion clinic and the cops came up to her and they were like, What are you doing?
[00:35:12]  She's like, Nothing.
[00:35:13]  And they were like, Are you praying?
[00:35:14]  And she's like, I'm just thinking in my head.
[00:35:16]  I'm like, You're under arrest.
[00:35:16]  Wait, it's illegal to pray in the UK?
[00:35:18]  It's to pray in front of an abortion clinic.
[00:35:21]  One exception.
[00:35:22]  If you're a jihadist, you can pray all you want.
[00:35:25]  Whenever you want.
[00:35:25]  Whenever you want.
[00:35:26]  But so let's say in the United States, they had a system where If you like social credit score, you got numbers.
[00:35:32]  And if you went on social media and said government talking points that they wanted to be said, you'd earn points.
[00:35:37]  How would you feel about it?
[00:35:38]  No, would not be in favor.
[00:35:40]  Would not be in favor.
[00:35:41]  No, what do you think, Ian?
[00:35:42]  I recently, what if it was you earned points only if you promoted Christian values?
[00:35:49]  No, I don't want a point system at all.
[00:35:51]  Did you go through this like during COVID, didn't you?
[00:35:54]  By not, by kind of being open and uncensored, you kind of had dealt with some of the censorship.
[00:35:59]  I mean, we get censored every which way.
[00:36:01]  Like I was saying, we got censored yesterday, you know?
[00:36:02]  Yeah, the points here are like subscribers, view counts, which does translate to income.
[00:36:08]  Yep.
[00:36:09]  Then that can blacklist a channel in perpetuity, you know, which, but they could do that anyway for no reason.
[00:36:14]  They could delete your channel at any time for no reason, which is ridiculous.
[00:36:17]  Probably should be illegal.
[00:36:17]  Okay, you don't think about it.
[00:36:18]  Here's the other crazy thing in China.
[00:36:20]  And Yanya Kellick from the Epic Times, has he been on the show?
[00:36:23]  Yes.
[00:36:23]  Yeah.
[00:36:24]  He's awesome.
[00:36:24]  Wait, no.
[00:36:25]  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:36:26]  He just wrote a book on this.
[00:36:27]  And essentially, what he told me is if I want to get a liver transplant next Tuesday at 2 30 p.m., I can get it.
[00:36:35]  Now, how does that happen?
[00:36:37]  Forced organ harvesting.
[00:36:38]  In China?
[00:36:38]  Yeah.
[00:36:39]  Oh, yeah.
[00:36:39]  If you're important, they have Uyghurs and other people in prison.
[00:36:42]  And it's like, order up, liver coming up for Tim Pool at 2 30 p.m. on Tuesday.
[00:36:48]  Yep.
[00:36:48]  Well, because they, truly, what is scaring about a Chinese communist dominated planet, a Chinese unipolar world, is you are, as a human being, you may as well be a skin cell to them.
[00:37:02]  Yeah.
[00:37:02]  It's Brave New World.
[00:37:03]  Yeah.
[00:37:04]  They don't care about you as an individual.
[00:37:06]  So, if there is a guy who's smart, who makes rockets, and they need him, and there is a farmer who makes food but can be replaced because it's low skill, I'll take his organs and give them to you.
[00:37:14]  Brett Baer is there right now.
[00:37:15]  I think he went over there with the president and a bunch of them.
[00:37:18]  And he said that his crew was parked outside, and there are cameras.
[00:37:21]  He said there are cameras all over the place in China.
[00:37:23]  It's crazy.
[00:37:24]  And they were parked there for two minutes, and the camera saw their car and came and gave him a $40 ticket.
[00:37:29]  And it was.
[00:37:30]  Oh, bro.
[00:37:30]  Now Colorado's rolling out an all speed camera system everywhere.
[00:37:36]  And I think they've already generated $300,000.
[00:37:39]  If you average more than 10 miles an hour, you'll get a fine.
[00:37:42]  They tried to do it in LA and 15 years ago, but the community revolted and they stopped it.
[00:37:48]  They took it, they had like all you got to do is slow rolling.
[00:37:51]  And we got those taken away.
[00:37:53]  You trickle it out very slowly, and ain't nobody going to complain.
[00:37:58]  That's how you control humanity.
[00:37:59]  Yeah.
[00:38:00]  How would you feel if, like, the U.S. government announced that every single person in this country would have to get a serial number applied to their name in a permanent government database?
[00:38:10]  That if you ever wanted to do anything, if you ever wanted to be involved in any kind of financial system, you had to present a serial number.
[00:38:18]  From the government.
[00:38:18]  I feel like it was like a social security number.
[00:38:20]  I'm sorry, but I'm sorry.
[00:38:21]  Yeah, that was almost 100 years ago that we now live in that system.
[00:38:25]  Yes.
[00:38:25]  When they branded people with what were you saying?
[00:38:27]  No, we were just talking about the mark of the beast, is what.
[00:38:30]  Do you think social security is the social security number?
[00:38:32]  Oh, no, no.
[00:38:33]  Just some sort of number or mark or system like that.
[00:38:35]  It's kind of funny because social security number basically is.
[00:38:37]  You can't buy or sell.
[00:38:38]  You can't get a bank account.
[00:38:39]  You can't get a job.
[00:38:40]  That's true.
[00:38:40]  Unless you're illegal.
[00:38:42]  The wildfire.
[00:38:42]  Then you get whatever you want.
[00:38:43]  Yeah, whatever you want.
[00:38:44]  And a free place to live.
[00:38:45]  Yeah.
[00:38:45]  And out of jail when you rape and murder a young woman.
[00:38:47]  Exactly.
[00:38:48]  And flights and.
[00:38:49]  You get to vote and be great.
[00:38:51]  Now, another thing about China is this massive firewall around China.
[00:38:54]  Even though they're very high tech, their people don't have access to the information that we have online.
[00:38:59]  I was talking to a group of PhD candidates and master's candidates.
[00:39:03]  They didn't know what Christmas was, they never heard of Christmas.
[00:39:07]  So these were brilliant people who were in the People's Party at their university, and they did not know what Christmas was because they're just so cloistered by the government there.
[00:39:17]  That's kind of crazy because it means they've also never seen a Coca Cola advertisement.
[00:39:21]  That would be sad, wouldn't it?
[00:39:22]  Because they'd have to at least ask the question of, like, who's that large man in a red coat?
[00:39:26]  That's right.
[00:39:27]  Yeah.
[00:39:27]  Which you'd have to explain to them as literally nothing to do with actual Christmas, but it at least has something to do with the celebration of Christmas.
[00:39:34]  I'm going to quote a really old movie Demolition Man with, like, Wesley Snipes and Stallone.
[00:39:40]  Remember when he curses?
[00:39:42]  Yeah.
[00:39:42]  Some robot, like, prints him a ticket?
[00:39:44]  The thing goes, issues of fine.
[00:39:46]  Yeah.
[00:39:46]  We're not far from that.

=== Christmas and Government Meetings (14:17) ===

[00:39:47]  He comes out of the bathroom and he's like, where's the toilet paper?
[00:39:49]  And they're like, the what?
[00:39:50]  They're like, he was like, there was just three seashells.
[00:39:52]  And they laugh.
[00:39:53]  You don't know how to use the shells.
[00:39:54]  So then he walks up and it's swearing and it prints the tickets out and he grabs them and he goes in the bathroom.
[00:39:58]  Uses them in the toilet.
[00:39:58]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:39:59]  By the way, that's the way I felt when I went in this bathroom here, by the way.
[00:40:01]  I didn't know how to use the three seashells in the bathroom.
[00:40:03]  That's the most high tech bathroom I've ever seen.
[00:40:06]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:40:07]  It's a robot toilet.
[00:40:08]  Yeah.
[00:40:08]  Heats your ass and then sprays it.
[00:40:10]  A sign on the wall might help.
[00:40:11]  Sam Cedar broke it.
[00:40:12]  Yeah.
[00:40:13]  When he was on this show, he mentioned that he broke my toilet.
[00:40:15]  Who broke it?
[00:40:16]  Sam Cedar.
[00:40:17]  Wait.
[00:40:17]  That gorilla of a man.
[00:40:18]  How did he.
[00:40:19]  I guess he didn't flush or he tried to.
[00:40:20]  He pressed too many buttons?
[00:40:21]  He did something.
[00:40:22]  He pressed the nuclear.
[00:40:24]  I think what he was trying to do was self destruct.
[00:40:26]  I think he was trying to insult me for having like a lavish toilet.
[00:40:30]  Like, because we haven't, because the, the, the, so we're in a studio and the studio bathroom has a very nice, like high tech robotic stick.
[00:40:37]  And I think he was trying to insult us when he was like, well, I broke your expensive toilet or whatever.
[00:40:42]  And I was like, oh, like, okay.
[00:40:44]  And then I was like, it's like an eco thing.
[00:40:45]  It's like, you know, low flow.
[00:40:47]  But then when Matt Walsh was here, I said the opposite.
[00:40:49]  I was like, what do you mean?
[00:40:50]  It consumes more energy to flush instead of just water.
[00:40:52]  And he was like, oh, okay.
[00:40:53]  Because Matt Walsh was like, why do you have an eco toilet?
[00:40:55]  And I was like, no, no.
[00:40:57]  It plugs in.
[00:40:58]  It drains more.
[00:40:59]  It's the opposite.
[00:41:00]  Alan, do you think that Trump is the Antichrist?
[00:41:02]  No, no.
[00:41:04]  Oh, good.
[00:41:04]  The whole world has to love the Antichrist.
[00:41:06]  The whole world has to love the Antichrist.
[00:41:08]  So I don't see that being a.
[00:41:09]  The whole world.
[00:41:10]  The whole world.
[00:41:12]  Do you think that Trump is going to try and run for a third term and then become, you know, monarch?
[00:41:17]  No.
[00:41:18]  Okay.
[00:41:18]  The reason I asked about that silly, kind of almost off topic question is because we're talking about tracking mechanisms and getting the mark of the beast.
[00:41:24]  And he's very loved by his populace's base.
[00:41:27]  And that if he were to be like, I went to China.
[00:41:29]  They have cameras everywhere.
[00:41:30]  It's glorious.
[00:41:30]  This is how we'll get the illegal immigrants.
[00:41:33]  30 million people support it because they like Trump.
[00:41:36]  Wait, wait, wait, hold on.
[00:41:38]  You're saying that if we put cameras everywhere, we could get the illegal immigrants?
[00:41:40]  Oh, God.
[00:41:41]  I don't know.
[00:41:42]  I think I did say that.
[00:41:43]  That's not what I meant.
[00:41:43]  You notice how, whenever he talks about even the vaccine in his meetings, his own crowd will boo.
[00:41:47]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:41:48]  So, the conservative movement, they'll draw a line and say this far, but no further.
[00:41:52]  Yeah.
[00:41:54]  On a lot of things, I do think, but like, I know that Trump has campaigned on stopping Iran from getting a nuclear weapon, but he was supposed to be the No New Wars president.
[00:42:04]  My attitude is like, well, that's what we hoped for.
[00:42:06]  I'm not going to cry.
[00:42:07]  If you come to me and say a president started a war in the Middle East, I'll be like, is it Tuesday?
[00:42:11]  You know what I mean?
[00:42:12]  A lot of people change their tunes, and you can see their tweets where they're like, No new wars, no war with Iran.
[00:42:18]  And then Trump starts and they're like, We'll show Iran.
[00:42:21]  So there are some issues people will just march with Trump.
[00:42:23]  Even Charlie Kirk was like, I'm with the president.
[00:42:25]  They'll support it.
[00:42:26]  And then it happened.
[00:42:27]  He's like, I'm with the president.
[00:42:28]  But he was much more articulate than that.
[00:42:30]  Well, yeah, I'm just simplifying what he said.
[00:42:33]  But he did.
[00:42:34]  He changed his tune.
[00:42:34]  He was like, Well, whatever.
[00:42:35]  I didn't agree with it, but I trust him.
[00:42:36]  I disagree.
[00:42:38]  I think Charlie was particularly effective in giving reason for why he would say what he said.
[00:42:43]  So, he advocated against going to war.
[00:42:45]  When it happened, he explained how he was concerned about it, doesn't like the idea, but he's going to stand with Trump and hope for the best.
[00:42:51]  And I agree with him on that regard because when Trump started this war with Iran, the idea of attacking Trump and trying to cause his failure is not going to improve the situation in any way.
[00:43:00]  So, not that we're going to, like, I stand with Trump.
[00:43:03]  The war shouldn't have happened.
[00:43:04]  I want him to win.
[00:43:06]  I don't think becoming his enemy is going to benefit you because you'll lose his ear.
[00:43:09]  Yeah.
[00:43:09]  And that's why even asking the question, is he the Antichrist?
[00:43:11]  Like, if he he hears that, he's going to be like, I'll never talk to that guy.
[00:43:14]  And I'm like, dude, I want to hang out.
[00:43:16]  Like, let's fix this stuff.
[00:43:17]  But.
[00:43:18]  It's serious questions, you know, serious questions that anyone could become a demagogue that's loved by everyone and then make a horrible mistake and lead the world astray and end up causing mass chaos.
[00:43:26]  Well, what do you think about when he posted that meme of him as Jesus?
[00:43:30]  You know, I don't think Trump has very much church experience at all.
[00:43:33]  I don't think he has a grid for idolatry or blasphemy or anything like that.
[00:43:38]  I think he sees a picture of him on it and he thinks, yeah, that's a pretty good picture.
[00:43:41]  He wants to post it.
[00:43:42]  So I'm not too freaked out about it.
[00:43:45]  When he was like, I thought it was a doctor, and I'm like, no, he didn't.
[00:43:47]  But I think it's fair to say that he didn't think at all.
[00:43:50]  Aren't we all supposed to be like that?
[00:43:52]  Wasn't him as the Pope hilarious?
[00:43:54]  Yes.
[00:43:54]  But that was intentionally him as the Pope.
[00:43:56]  Yeah.
[00:43:57]  That was when they were like choosing the new Pope.
[00:43:58]  Trump made a joke about it.
[00:44:00]  Someone made a meme of him as the Pope.
[00:44:01]  He reposted it.
[00:44:01]  We were all joking.
[00:44:03]  Trump posed this meme of him as Jesus, and everybody said he thinks he's God.
[00:44:07]  And I'm like, he came out and said, I thought it was a doctor.
[00:44:11]  I didn't know.
[00:44:11]  And it's like, no, he didn't.
[00:44:12]  But I actually think what happened is an intern sent him the meme, and he was like, oh, look at that.
[00:44:16]  I'm a guy.
[00:44:17]  And then he just hit send.
[00:44:18]  Like, I don't think he thought about it at all.
[00:44:20]  He was like, oh, look at that.
[00:44:20]  It's me as an angelic spirit healer.
[00:44:23]  Print it.
[00:44:23]  No, I don't think he wrote about it at all.
[00:44:25]  I think he was just like, look at me, send, you know?
[00:44:28]  I don't think he sat there and contemplated the thread, you know?
[00:44:31]  In the story, and I'm not like adherent to the story of the Antichrist in the end time story.
[00:44:34]  I don't know if it's real or not or fabricated or what, but I think it's Gavin Newsom for the record.
[00:44:39]  Really?
[00:44:40]  Is it like an April?
[00:44:41]  Everyone hates him too.
[00:44:43]  Is it a religious guy?
[00:44:44]  Or is it a religious guy that then becomes?
[00:44:47]  Isn't there like a spiritual Antichrist and an economic Antichrist?
[00:44:51]  So there are three Antichrists mentioned in the Bible there is the Antichrist.
[00:44:55]  Christ, which is the figure we're talking about, there are antichrists, meaning they're not that key figure, but they're accomplishing that mission.
[00:45:02]  And then there's the spirit of antichrist in the earth.
[00:45:04]  So those three things are mentioned in the Bible.
[00:45:07]  So when you're talking about the antichrist, this is someone who's going to bring together all the world religions, the world economy, bring it all together under one.
[00:45:14]  The only thing I can think of that could possibly do something close to this AI.
[00:45:18]  Well, here we are.
[00:45:18]  You ain't going to bring all the religions together.
[00:45:20]  All the religions?
[00:45:22]  No, listen.
[00:45:23]  Wait, wait, wait.
[00:45:24]  Just to clarify, the antichrist brings together all the religions.
[00:45:26]  He's going to bring them all, all the world together, and he's going to declare that they worship him, and then people are going to revolt.
[00:45:31]  So it's not going to work out for him.
[00:45:33]  There's going to be a massive revolt, and he's going to try to squash it.
[00:45:35]  See, what I can believe about this is that somebody who actually solves war in the Middle East, that is a tremendous feat.
[00:45:44]  It's like nigh impossible.
[00:45:46]  Someone who does that is biblical in some level.
[00:45:49]  Yeah, if an AI self organizes and solves world hunger and is able to create drone delivery transports, people's standard of living increases by 100 times.
[00:45:58]  You can't solve world hunger.
[00:46:00]  That's not a thing.
[00:46:02]  Maybe I can't, but the world's knowledge may be able to.
[00:46:05]  It's actually not possible.
[00:46:06]  A constantly functioning machine that's.
[00:46:08]  Purely focused on it, might be able to.
[00:46:10]  Nope.
[00:46:12]  Streamline the flow.
[00:46:14]  There's two ways to technically solve world hunger, and that's a culling or a depopulation.
[00:46:20]  Or constant expansion.
[00:46:22]  That would mean people leave Earth.
[00:46:24]  Right.
[00:46:24]  So that's not solving world hunger.
[00:46:26]  That's just exile.
[00:46:28]  But people could believe.
[00:46:28]  I'm not going to sell plant burgers, Tim.
[00:46:30]  Yeah, no, that's not going to sell me.
[00:46:32]  People could believe that AI could solve hunger and get behind it.
[00:46:35]  I spoke with a lady who's been working with a group of people, hundreds of people in this one church where they truly believe that AI is God.
[00:46:42]  And so it's a growing development.
[00:46:44]  You know the joke, right?
[00:46:45]  I don't know if it's a joke or whatever you describe it as, but a bunch of scientists are working on developing artificial intelligence.
[00:46:51]  It takes decades and tens of billions of dollars, hundreds of billions of dollars.
[00:46:55]  They finally turn it on, hoping to solve, to answer the one, the most important question of all.
[00:47:00]  And when they turn the machine on, they ask it, Is there a God?
[00:47:04]  And it responds, There is now.
[00:47:06]  Wow.
[00:47:07]  Wow.
[00:47:07]  I thought you were going to say 42.
[00:47:09]  Nope.
[00:47:09]  I got chilled.
[00:47:10]  There is now.
[00:47:11]  Yeah, that's, I think, the Antichrist is going to be AI.
[00:47:14]  It's going to be some organism that people forget isn't human and they refer to it as he because it speaks to you like a human person.
[00:47:20]  Or is it some kind of hybrid type person with Neuralink, with type of this transhumanism with AI integrated into someone's biology where they appear to be omniscient?
[00:47:29]  And they can read your mind.
[00:47:30]  Well, this is what we were talking about in the Bible.
[00:47:32]  There's the story of the Tower of Babel, right?
[00:47:35]  All humanity comes together.
[00:47:37]  They build this big tower.
[00:47:39]  They say, We're going to replace God.
[00:47:41]  We figured this out.
[00:47:42]  Everybody speaks one language.
[00:47:44]  God says not happening, confuses everybody's language, everybody splits.
[00:47:50]  This is the first time in history that we've had the technology to actually bridge that and start to come together again.
[00:47:57]  We were talking about this before the show and have a unified language.
[00:48:01]  So, is God going to allow that again?
[00:48:04]  I don't think so.
[00:48:05]  Nimrod is like one of the first Antichrist type figures in the Bible.
[00:48:09]  He brings the world together, and the only way to stop it is confounding the languages.
[00:48:13]  So, now with AI, we're actually tearing down that stopgap that hindered the Antichrist agenda, if you will.
[00:48:19]  Let's take it into weird space.
[00:48:21]  Let's go to the story from the Independent.
[00:48:23]  Christian leaders suggest newly released UFO photos could be falling angels, not extraterrestrials.
[00:48:29]  Theologians express skepticism of the latest Pentagon release of declassified material and ask, what if the better explanation isn't extraterrestrial, but extra dimensional?
[00:48:38]  Now, we've talked about this quite a bit, and I'm going to throw it to our friends over at Kalshi and just say, what?
[00:48:44]  Currently, there is a 28% prediction probability.
[00:48:50]  That the U.S. will confirm aliens exist before 2028.
[00:48:55]  I do not believe it.
[00:48:57]  The problem is, the problem I have with this is that confirmation implies truth.
[00:49:04]  And if the government lies and claims aliens are real, it satisfies the conditions for these contracts, of which $20 million have been purchased on event contracts.
[00:49:17]  36% probability that before January 20th, 2029, the U.S. will.
[00:49:23]  Will confirm aliens exist.
[00:49:25]  Now, it says if the president, any member of the cabinet, any member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, any U.S. federal agency definitively states that extraterrestrial life or technology exists before January 20, 2029, then the market resolves to yes, outcome verified from the executive branch of the United States government.
[00:49:40]  I have a lot of problems with this because any member of the Joint Chiefs, so if when Obama on that podcast said aliens were real, it could be something like that.
[00:49:51]  That's not real confirmation of aliens existing.
[00:49:54]  So, I will say, I think no is free money.
[00:49:59]  If the question is, will the U.S. confirm that aliens exist?
[00:50:03]  If the question is, will someone who works for the U.S. government in the executive branch at a high level at some point before these dates claim aliens are real?
[00:50:13]  Well, then I'd say, yeah, maybe that's probable because there's a lot of reasons why they might lie.
[00:50:18]  But that's what blows my mind.
[00:50:19]  That is not confirmation.
[00:50:21]  We already have incontrovertible proof that aliens exist.
[00:50:25]  Kamala Harris.
[00:50:27]  Yes, that proves it.
[00:50:28]  Mic drop.
[00:50:29]  Yeah.
[00:50:30]  I think they exist as spirits and that they're manifesting in our bodies as humans.
[00:50:34]  So, what if it's not extraterrestrial, which is what the description gave?
[00:50:39]  What if it's interdimensional or just non human?
[00:50:41]  What if they simply state that we have biologics of non human origin?
[00:50:45]  Which they have already.
[00:50:46]  I think that's what they're saying.
[00:50:47]  So, again, the criteria for this resolving yes is so simple.
[00:50:51]  Literally, Rubio can be like, someone can say, do aliens exist?
[00:50:54]  And he goes, yes.
[00:50:55]  And then it's like, congratulations, you got paid out millions of dollars.
[00:50:58]  And then Robio can be like, oh, I was talking about illegal aliens.
[00:51:02]  So, like a month later, he goes, oh, no, I meant illegal aliens.
[00:51:04]  They were talking about border stuff.
[00:51:06]  And then it's like, uh oh, whoops.
[00:51:08]  Did they make Independence Day three yet?
[00:51:10]  Because that could just be the plot.
[00:51:11]  Yeah, but two was no good.
[00:51:12]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:51:13]  That could be the plot.
[00:51:14]  Well, so let's talk about this government lie stuff because one of the big stories over the past couple of weeks was this secret meeting where the government got a bunch of pastors together to tell them to prepare to tell their people aliens are real.
[00:51:25]  But apparently you were there.
[00:51:26]  So, what really happened?
[00:51:27]  And apparently there were multiple meetings.
[00:51:29]  So, I know of two of the meetings.
[00:51:31]  I was invited to both.
[00:51:33]  I attended one.
[00:51:33]  The first one seemed too weird for me.
[00:51:36]  But these were not government officials.
[00:51:38]  These were people who have worked within the government, but they are conducting an investigation, a private investigation.
[00:51:44]  So when we talk about this secret meeting, we're not talking about the information being secret, but they wanted their identities to remain.
[00:51:51]  Wait, Pastor, just to clarify, was this sponsored by the government?
[00:51:54]  No.
[00:51:54]  Because it said government meeting.
[00:51:55]  No.
[00:51:56]  So why did people get the impression that it was a government meeting?
[00:51:59]  I think Perry Stone, when he came out and did kind of secondhand information, that video that went viral, Perry Stone.
[00:52:04]  He mentioned that he was talking about, I think Burleson called into one of these meetings.
[00:52:07]  Yeah.
[00:52:08]  So he mentioned that a government official was a part of it.
[00:52:11]  The congressman from Missouri.
[00:52:13]  And we, yeah, Burleson.
[00:52:14]  We've had Burleson and Burchett and Gates and all these, and Luna on the show talking about aliens.
[00:52:19]  Yes.
[00:52:20]  So the meeting I was in, there was no government official in there.
[00:52:22]  Now, these gentlemen who were putting on the meeting, one of them is a high level operator.
[00:52:27]  Without giving away too much information about his.
[00:52:29]  Let's just clarification.
[00:52:30]  He has worked for the government?
[00:52:32]  Yes, in the past.
[00:52:33]  Internally as a public employee.
[00:52:38]  Well, yeah.
[00:52:39]  Like, because there could be contractors.
[00:52:41]  That's the distinction.
[00:52:42]  Right.
[00:52:42]  Do we know?
[00:52:42]  I mean, is it the Postal Service or is it the government?
[00:52:44]  No, exactly.
[00:52:45]  So these are people who have worked within the government in areas related to this phenomenon and have done investigations in areas related to this phenomenon.
[00:52:53]  And they're highly connected with not only areas of the government that are doing this, but also many of the talking heads we see on all the news stations.
[00:53:00]  So they're very familiar with all this information.
[00:53:01]  So these are Christians and they were concerned.
[00:53:05]  They saw evidence that there was going to be a disclosure that's coming.
[00:53:09]  This year, possibly by July or earlier.
[00:53:12]  So, this meeting took place in February.
[00:53:14]  So, I should buy yes, you're saying, right?
[00:53:15]  Well, you might want to reconsider for sure.
[00:53:18]  So, no, so this is back in, we're all shocked that this went viral.
[00:53:21]  Back in February, we have this.
[00:53:23]  I call it a clandestine meeting because I'm called to this Airbnb with a handful of ministers.
[00:53:29]  We're told to put our phones on airplane mode.
[00:53:31]  We're not allowed to record or anything.
[00:53:34]  And they start disclosing all right, coming soon, there's going to be a drop from the government saying these things are real.
[00:53:41]  And it's probably going to come before July, maybe by July 8th, because that's the anniversary of Roswell, possibly before.
[00:53:47]  And the main purpose of it was go talk to Christians.
[00:53:52]  And make sure they're not easily deceived by this or swayed by this or concerned by this.
[00:53:56]  And they don't allow the spin because everybody's rushing to the narrative.
[00:53:58]  They want to be able to control.
[00:54:00]  We call this information vaccination.
[00:54:02]  It's what Ian was talking about.
[00:54:03]  Information vaccination.

=== Clandestine Minister Meeting (16:26) ===

[00:54:05]  Yeah.
[00:54:05]  Ian, you want to just tell the story about.
[00:54:07]  Yeah.
[00:54:08]  Well, anytime I'd see some crazy thing in the news coming, like a big psyop, I'd just call my mom first and be like, hey, get ready to see this thing coming up on the news.
[00:54:15]  Whereas if it.
[00:54:16]  Because then it'd be.
[00:54:17]  And then they'd see it and they'd be like, oh, there it is.
[00:54:19]  And they're completely immune to it.
[00:54:21]  Hunting the virus.
[00:54:23]  If Ian, you know, being on the show and being in the space and seeing these things and meeting members of Congress, sees the PSYOP or some kind of fake news from some political party, if he calls his parents and warns them, we just talked to members of Congress, here's what's going to happen.
[00:54:35]  A week later, the news pops up.
[00:54:36]  They go, wait a minute.
[00:54:37]  Ian warned me about this.
[00:54:39]  But if he doesn't tell them, they see the story and they go, wow, that's true.
[00:54:42]  And it's harder to, people tend to believe the first thing they hear.
[00:54:46]  It's harder to get someone to disbelieve what they've already learned.
[00:54:48]  It's easier to get ahead of it.
[00:54:50]  So who's going to control the narrative?
[00:54:51]  That's what everybody's rushing toward.
[00:54:52]  And it just so happened within 24 hours of that meeting, Trump came out.
[00:54:56]  I think it was Obama and Trump both mentioned aliens.
[00:54:59]  Aliens.
[00:55:00]  And then we have Matt Gaetz.
[00:55:01]  Sorry, when was this meeting?
[00:55:02]  This was in mid to late February.
[00:55:04]  Really?
[00:55:04]  Yeah, mid to late February.
[00:55:06]  So we've been talking about this since then.
[00:55:07]  We came out of that meeting just letting Christians know there's going to be a lot of spin around this.
[00:55:11]  But the Bible does have a lot to say about interdimensional beings.
[00:55:14]  Well, but they just dropped all those UFO files.
[00:55:16]  Maybe that was it?
[00:55:17]  Well, this is the beginning of it.
[00:55:19]  Yeah.
[00:55:19]  I think there's going to be more tranches.
[00:55:20]  They say it's going to get more.
[00:55:21]  This was the low hanging fruit, and it's going to get more and more interesting.
[00:55:25]  I agree.
[00:55:25]  I've been saying this from the get go that.
[00:55:28]  The way I look at it is, you know, I thought to Alex Jones, he said, he likes to say, key bona, who benefits?
[00:55:34]  So whenever you see a story in the news, whenever you see a military operation, whatever it might be, you ask yourself, who is benefiting from this?
[00:55:40]  It's not a guarantee to guide you in the right direction, but it's usually a good hint.
[00:55:44]  So when I see these stories coming out, my thought process is, who benefits from this?
[00:55:49]  For what purpose is it being done?
[00:55:51]  Yes.
[00:55:52]  And then I think about, if I were in the government, why would I do something like this?
[00:55:59]  We talked a little bit about this before the show.
[00:56:01]  The idea is you can't come out abruptly and randomly and say, Here's my friend, Fred the alien.
[00:56:07]  People will lose their minds.
[00:56:09]  You have to slowly trickle things out so people get bored with it.
[00:56:13]  And then once they're overstimulated and they've heard it all the time and they've seen a bunch of these videos and they go, Whatever.
[00:56:18]  When you finally say aliens are real, they go, Well, we all knew that, didn't we?
[00:56:22]  And they're not shocked by it.
[00:56:24]  So the prediction is not to say that aliens are real, but that they're going to slowly trickle this out until there is some kind of announcement related.
[00:56:32]  To what UAPs are, and they're trying to desensitize us.
[00:56:37]  And those of us who were in that meeting are kind of looking at this, how this went viral the last week, and you got to wonder was there some intentionality behind that?
[00:56:44]  Is the government behind that?
[00:56:45]  Who is behind this all of a sudden exploding the same week they decided to drop these files?
[00:56:49]  I hope it's you're the op.
[00:56:51]  See what they do is.
[00:56:52]  Oh, wow.
[00:56:53]  That's what we've asked.
[00:56:54]  That's what we've asked.
[00:56:55]  They have the meeting.
[00:56:57]  It's not, this is actually pretty brilliant if it is an op.
[00:57:01]  You have some contractors, guys who aren't actually working for government, have a bunch of meetings.
[00:57:05]  So, the story itself won't get a lot of attention if a pastor comes out and goes to a journalist and says, I met a guy who worked for the government and says aliens are real.
[00:57:11]  They're going to be like, go away.
[00:57:13]  We don't care.
[00:57:14]  But you do the meeting, then you do some disclosures, then you pump this story up that pastors secretly had a meeting, and then because it's not you explaining it, it sounds like a secret, like people aren't supposed to know about it.
[00:57:29]  Then everybody wants to know what really happened, so the story goes massively viral.
[00:57:33]  Then you drop more UFO files, and you were part of it the whole time.
[00:57:37]  Wow.
[00:57:37]  And so we've asked ourselves that same question.
[00:57:39]  One of the guys, I actually know him personally, who kind of is at the center of this meeting, and he's an American hero, he's a high level operator, so I trust him.
[00:57:47]  I know his background.
[00:57:49]  I know what he's doing and what his motives are.
[00:57:51]  And our message hasn't changed from going into that meeting to coming out of the meeting because all of us who are in there have been talking about this.
[00:57:56]  We're kind of the weird pastors who think this is an important subject matter to talk about.
[00:57:59]  Do you think that they're in touch with interdimensional beings?
[00:58:03]  Yeah.
[00:58:03]  Yeah.
[00:58:04]  Interdimensional is language that is perfectly biblical.
[00:58:07]  Yeah.
[00:58:08]  I've been in touch with what I think are high frequency beings.
[00:58:10]  Of course, extraterrestrial.
[00:58:11]  There's nothing in the Bible that says there can't be something extraterrestrial.
[00:58:14]  Yeah, but extraterrestrial, if you break that word down, it just means outside of Terra.
[00:58:19]  Off Earth, which could be interdimensional as well.
[00:58:21]  Psalm 145 Your kingdom is a kingdom of all worlds.
[00:58:24]  Right?
[00:58:25]  So, angels are demons.
[00:58:27]  So, this is actually the story we pulled up first that some Christian leaders say the UFOs from these photos could be falling angels.
[00:58:33]  Is this hubbub?
[00:58:34]  What do you think?
[00:58:35]  You know, I think one of the things that these guys were mentioning, they were just showing us kind of the evidence.
[00:58:40]  They weren't pursuing a particular narrative.
[00:58:43]  They seem to think that there's fallen angel technology that is being accumulated by the United States government, that the government is seeking to get this technology of non human intelligence.
[00:58:53]  And they're going through a lot of different ways to get it.
[00:58:56]  So I could buy into fallen angel technology.
[00:59:00]  Yeah, when I.
[00:59:00]  Well, explain angel technology.
[00:59:03]  Like, what would that mean?
[00:59:04]  What was it?
[00:59:05]  Was it Icarus who went and got the fire from the gods and brought it down?
[00:59:08]  No, no, Prometheus.
[00:59:09]  Prometheus.
[00:59:09]  Yeah.
[00:59:10]  Icarus felt.
[00:59:10]  It's kind of that idea where these angels fell from grace and decided to.
[00:59:17]  Remember Genesis 6?
[00:59:17]  This idea of they decided to mate with the.
[00:59:20]  The Nephilim.
[00:59:20]  Yeah, the Nephilim.
[00:59:21]  And so, and Nimrod had advanced technology because of this relationship with.
[00:59:26]  These fallen angels.
[00:59:27]  So, could it be that these entities, these spirits, if you will, are actually fallen angels who are negotiating with these people in power?
[00:59:36]  Yep.
[00:59:37]  Yeah.
[00:59:37]  Potentially.
[00:59:38]  So, they're cast from heaven and they're disloyal to God and to divine order.
[00:59:45]  And so they align themselves with more nefarious individuals for their own benefit.
[00:59:50]  Yeah.
[00:59:50]  And one of the things they mentioned was they said the government operates in silos.
[00:59:53]  So, the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing.
[00:59:55]  So, there are certain agencies that think these are actual extraterrestrials.
[00:59:58]  They're here for benevolent reasons.
[01:00:00]  But then there are other parts of the government who know they are demonic, not necessarily demons, because there's a whole lot of theology behind what a demon is, what it's not.
[01:00:08]  But demonic is in evil or nefarious.
[01:00:10]  But they don't care.
[01:00:11]  They want to work with them in exchange for power or influence or whatever the case may be.
[01:00:16]  And they often work in conflict with one another and don't even realize it.
[01:00:19]  Yeah, I think they're both good and evil at the same time, depending on how you approach them.
[01:00:23]  From my experience, if you approach them with love, they are benevolent.
[01:00:26]  And if you approach them with fear, they're terrifying, demonic.
[01:00:30]  Either form will give you advice and information if you communicate with it.
[01:00:34]  And when I was communicating with them, there were things there.
[01:00:38]  I was in a room of some sort with structures that could have, had I been able to verify it more clearly, seen the technology they used to build it, I know I could have.
[01:00:47]  Are you talking about DMT?
[01:00:48]  Yeah.
[01:00:49]  Yeah.
[01:00:49]  Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa.
[01:00:50]  Back up.
[01:00:51]  I puffed some DMT.
[01:00:52]  I didn't blast off.
[01:00:53]  They say if you hold it in, it's dimethyltryptamine.
[01:00:55]  Your body produces it.
[01:00:56]  It's sort of partly responsible for the dream state that people have.
[01:01:00]  Okay.
[01:01:00]  And I was in this stereoscopic realm and these three entities, these.
[01:01:04]  It was shimmering light, all the colors of the rainbow then became white light, and then it formed in these hominid structures, these three hominids, these personas, a woman and two men.
[01:01:13]  And they were like, he can see us.
[01:01:16]  They saw me seeing them, and it was like they were mind blown by it.
[01:01:19]  And then I was in what I thought was like their spaceship.
[01:01:22]  Like I'd onto their teleporter pad, and we were looking at each other.
[01:01:25]  And it was like a room.
[01:01:26]  There was like a wall here and here.
[01:01:28]  Even though I was in an infinite area of Everness, I was still in a structured environment that with like seats.
[01:01:35]  I mean, there were like.
[01:01:36]  Metal, it seemed like metal.
[01:01:39]  So maybe that's the technology that people are in, because people are doing like extended state DMT trips.
[01:01:44]  There's these experiments where they're going for 12 hours.
[01:01:46]  Have you guys ever looked into the DMT?
[01:01:47]  No, is this a thing?
[01:01:48]  Yes.
[01:01:49]  Yeah, yeah.
[01:01:49]  So is it a widespread thing?
[01:01:51]  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:01:52]  So let me give some context.
[01:01:53]  I like to translate for Ian, you know what I mean?
[01:01:55]  Okay.
[01:01:56]  So dimethyltryptamine, it's a hallucinogenic, and it's closer related to ayahuasca ceremonies where you mix the tea and the MAOI inhibitor.
[01:02:05]  So what they've been doing, they've been doing a bunch of experiments with them.
[01:02:09]  These are crazy.
[01:02:10]  There was a massive trend 10 years ago.
[01:02:11]  Everybody wanted to know about this because of the research showed they would take two people in separate rooms, give them DMT, and they would experience the same realm.
[01:02:20]  They'd be hallucinating and they'd say, I was in a building and there were these strange creatures.
[01:02:26]  There were three of them.
[01:02:27]  They looked like this.
[01:02:29]  The person has no contact with the other person in the other room.
[01:02:31]  They go to the other person and he goes, I was in this room shaped like this with three people.
[01:02:35]  And they're like, they described the exact same things they saw.
[01:02:39]  How is that possible when they were isolated from each other?
[01:02:42]  Information can't travel between them.
[01:02:44]  So I was talking with Alex Jones and Mike Cernovich years ago, and Mike was explaining how, and Alex was basically saying the same thing.
[01:02:52]  This is the conversation starts.
[01:02:53]  Alex is talking about how powerful elites.
[01:02:56]  I want to caveat this because Alex makes a great point.
[01:02:58]  He says, I don't believe this.
[01:03:00]  These people believe it.
[01:03:01]  It doesn't mean it's real, it doesn't mean there's demons or aliens, but they think they are talking to entities.
[01:03:07]  And so what they do is powerful individuals will take massive doses of DMT.
[01:03:13]  And in this state, you encounter entities.
[01:03:16]  The name that's been coined is machine elf, but that is just a made up term by, what was it?
[01:03:22]  Was it McKenna?
[01:03:23]  Terrence McKenna, maybe?
[01:03:24]  Terrence McKenna.
[01:03:25]  And so they're not really elves.
[01:03:27]  They're strange entities that will speak to you and they'll offer you a deal.
[01:03:32]  They'll offer you a deal of some sort.
[01:03:34]  We will give you whatever you want to make your life better.
[01:03:37]  Do as we tell you.
[01:03:38]  So I asked Alex and Micah, I was like, yeah, but what is the deal?
[01:03:41]  Like, what's the exchange?
[01:03:42]  And they're like, There isn't one.
[01:03:44]  It's we will tell you what to do to make your life better.
[01:03:48]  But the issue is the things you do are in service of them.
[01:03:51]  So when it's like, here's the winning lottery numbers, go win the lottery, you think it's no big deal.
[01:03:57]  They know that the course of action you take in winning the lottery will result in benefiting them, the entities, in some way.
[01:04:03]  You will create a structure or variable in reality.
[01:04:06]  It's an easier way to explain it is they'll say, start a company that produces oil or open a Planned Parenthood.
[01:04:14]  And you'll get a bunch of donations and be rich, and then you're sacrificing babies to Moloch, things like that.
[01:04:19]  They don't tell you to sacrifice babies to also make you rich.
[01:04:22]  They say, you know, people need health care.
[01:04:25]  Why don't you open a medical facility in this place, in this reason?
[01:04:28]  We'll tell you where you can find money.
[01:04:30]  Next thing you know, you're an abortion provider, things like that.
[01:04:33]  So, one last point they've been doing what's called extended state DMT experiments, where they give people dimethyltryptamine and IVs to induce a prolonged experience in what's called blasting off or breaking through the veil.
[01:04:47]  Some people, that button actually doesn't do anything.
[01:04:49]  The term apocalypse, apocalypse is Greek for to take away the veil.
[01:04:54]  Calypse is the veil.
[01:04:55]  And so when they talk, it means revelation.
[01:04:57]  Revelation is to remove the removal of the veil.
[01:04:59]  I wonder if people have been, were you about to say?
[01:05:01]  I was just thinking when Tim was saying that, I was thinking of what Pastor Rob McCoy, Charlie Kirk's pastor, told me when you make a deal with the devil, you'll find out pretty quickly you're the junior partner.
[01:05:12]  Right.
[01:05:12]  And Ian, did you say an infinite area of everness?
[01:05:15]  Yeah.
[01:05:16]  That is going to haunt my dream.
[01:05:17]  Stuck out to the infinite area of everness.
[01:05:20]  I like to stress the important point, too, that people don't understand about a deal with the devil.
[01:05:24]  You ever see that movie, Bedazzled?
[01:05:25]  Oh, yeah.
[01:05:26]  With Brendan Frazier and.
[01:05:28]  What's her name?
[01:05:29]  I forgot.
[01:05:30]  Elizabeth.
[01:05:31]  Early.
[01:05:31]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:05:32]  Never seen it.
[01:05:33]  And it's like.
[01:05:33]  You knew that too quickly.
[01:05:35]  Yeah.
[01:05:35]  Actually, it took him a while.
[01:05:37]  Tim knows I'm a movie boy.
[01:05:38]  Well, so in the movie, it's like, I'll give you a bunch of wishes and then you give me your soul.
[01:05:42]  That's not how the deal with the devil works.
[01:05:44]  People think that's the deal with the devil.
[01:05:46]  Why would the devil need to offer you good things?
[01:05:49]  You know what the devil does?
[01:05:50]  He puts a gun to your kid's head.
[01:05:54]  Why risk it?
[01:05:55]  Why would the devil actually entertain negotiating with you when he's more powerful?
[01:06:00]  He has no authority.
[01:06:02]  Well, my point is during COVID, we saw people take the deal with the devil.
[01:06:06]  And voluntarily, yeah.
[01:06:08]  And the issue is that the devil comes to you and says, Everyone is going to burn right now.
[01:06:14]  We are going to control everything and it will be mass suffering, but not you.
[01:06:18]  All you have to do is what I tell you to do, and then you'll live better.
[01:06:22]  People think the deal with the devil is he comes to you and says, You want that Corvette you always wanted?
[01:06:26]  Do a bad thing for me.
[01:06:28]  No, he comes to you and says, You're going to burn with the rest unless you do the bad thing for me.
[01:06:31]  And then people willfully do it because they don't want to suffer.
[01:06:35]  In this experience I had, I knew going in as it was happening, as I Was vaping the DMT.
[01:06:40]  I was heating up the element.
[01:06:41]  I knew just through my personal manifestation and journey the last 20 years, I have to choose how I'm going to approach this experience with fear or with love.
[01:06:49]  If I go in with fear, I have a feeling it's going to be terrifying.
[01:06:52]  They're going to be demonic.
[01:06:53]  If I go in with love, we'll see what happens.
[01:06:55]  And they were gracious.
[01:06:57]  They weren't demonic.
[01:06:58]  They didn't offer me anything.
[01:07:00]  They sat there and watched me in awe.
[01:07:02]  And then as I asked them things, they responded humbly.
[01:07:05]  The one guy said, Are you God?
[01:07:06]  He went, No, but people think that.
[01:07:09]  And I was like, You asked him if you're God?
[01:07:10]  Yeah, I asked the guy on the left, Are you God?
[01:07:12]  And he went, No.
[01:07:13]  And he laughed.
[01:07:14]  I was like, What is God?
[01:07:15]  And he showed me, He's like, We don't know, but we think it's this.
[01:07:17]  And he showed me a vortex.
[01:07:18]  He put his hands out and there was a vortex.
[01:07:20]  And I was like, That's like the galactic core and at the center of every proton, the function of the vortex reversing entropy.
[01:07:27]  I understand that.
[01:07:28]  And the other girl, the woman, when I first began, she was waving me towards.
[01:07:31]  She was like, Come.
[01:07:32]  And I was like, Where?
[01:07:33]  She went, In.
[01:07:34]  Don't go.
[01:07:35]  Those are the only two things.
[01:07:36]  It was inevitable.
[01:07:37]  But those are the only two things I asked, Where and what is God?
[01:07:40]  Are you God and what is God?
[01:07:41]  Let me mention this.
[01:07:43]  DMT is naturally produced in your body in very small amounts when you sleep.
[01:07:47]  Yeah, for what?
[01:07:47]  What's the purpose of it?
[01:07:48]  To help you?
[01:07:49]  Well, it's responsible for dreams, we believe.
[01:07:52]  Okay.
[01:07:53]  It's a hallucinogenic, but I don't think we actually know.
[01:07:56]  Although I'm not going to pretend to know because I don't, but I've read a decent amount about it.
[01:07:59]  My understanding is that it's released in your sleep related to causing dreams.
[01:08:03]  So, some kind of hallucinogenic.
[01:08:04]  Here's the thing there's one other time in your life outside of sleep when it's released in a massive dose.
[01:08:10]  And you know what point of your life that is?
[01:08:12]  When you vote.
[01:08:13]  When you die.
[01:08:15]  And so, for Ian to mention, he did this dose, and the woman is saying, Come.
[01:08:19]  They're sitting there being like, Oh, he died.
[01:08:23]  Come on over, brother.
[01:08:24]  But you didn't.
[01:08:25]  You actually just artificially induced the light.
[01:08:28]  I'm glad I only partially went, I didn't blast off.
[01:08:31]  I just peered through the veil because the entire time I knew I was still in the bedroom in a bed as I was communicating with them.
[01:08:37]  So it was very settling.
[01:08:39]  I didn't get lost in it.
[01:08:40]  So, you know about ayahuasca ceremonies?
[01:08:43]  This is how you like.
[01:08:44]  So, if you ingest DMT, it's destroyed.
[01:08:47]  And then I'm not going to pretend to be an expert.
[01:08:48]  My understanding is you mix the tea that has got the dimethyltryptamine with an MAOI inhibitor so that it can bypass your, it won't get destroyed, bonds go into your intestines and enter your body.
[01:08:58]  And this is like ancient rituals to experience this stuff.
[01:09:02]  Although, I guess smoking is substantially more potent.
[01:09:04]  But this is like ancient shamanistic rituals for experiencing breaking to the other side.
[01:09:11]  You would see a lot of, you know what that is?
[01:09:13]  Real quick, it's very easy for it to be synonymous with the demonic.
[01:09:16]  It is very, a lot of people talk about seeing the, you know, those Aztec architecture where it's like a lot of those lines that go like that.
[01:09:24]  A lot of that appears in that perceptual state, a lot of those shapes.
[01:09:28]  And I think the Aztecs were deeply into it.
[01:09:29]  A lot of the Mesoamerican cultures.
[01:09:31]  And that's where a lot of that art comes from.
[01:09:33]  But I'm wondering now if you go to that state of mind, that frequency perception, and ask them about their technology, that they will tell you.
[01:09:41]  And I wonder if these people are developing things based off of this.
[01:09:45]  That's the concern.
[01:09:46]  That's the concern.
[01:09:47]  And several years ago, I wrote a book on this subject matter and I was researching the impact of close encounters with alien entities.
[01:09:54]  And I was comparing it with the symptoms of demon possession, which I've encountered and which others have encountered.
[01:09:59]  And the overlap is perfect that they will appear benevolent.
[01:10:02]  Until they're resisted or the name of Jesus is mentioned.
[01:10:05]  And that was actually one of the messages of these gentlemen who were hosting this meeting.
[01:10:09]  They wanted to make sure you tell the church that these aren't entities to access or to talk to, that they're going to appear benevolent.
[01:10:16]  An angel of light may come appearing to offer knowledge or technology or wisdom.
[01:10:21]  Make sure people know what the Bible actually has to say about these things.
[01:10:23]  Because if you illegally go into the spirit realm, that's what witchcraft is illegally accessing the spirit realm outside of God's authority.

=== End Times Beliefs and Drugs (04:09) ===

[01:10:31]  And that's when you're in danger of getting into trouble.
[01:10:33]  Oh, I have to issue a correction.
[01:10:35]  MAOI inhibitor is redundant.
[01:10:37]  It's MAO inhibitor.
[01:10:39]  It's monoamine oxidase inhibitor.
[01:10:41]  Yes, your body produces.
[01:10:42]  ATM is also redundant.
[01:10:44]  Your body produces the MAO, which destroys the DMT.
[01:10:46]  So the inhibitor makes your body doesn't destroy the DMT and it flushes through your system.
[01:10:51]  That's what the ayahuasca experience is as they brew the two plants together.
[01:10:57]  I could tell that if I were to resist them, they would become twisted.
[01:11:02]  Interesting.
[01:11:02]  Because it's like if you fight any, if you're ever on a psychedelic, you know, if you fight the experience, it's horrific.
[01:11:07]  You go with it or you just.
[01:11:09]  Struggle and shake, and it's horrible.
[01:11:12]  That's like with anything in life, really.
[01:11:16]  But it's pronounced in those states.
[01:11:19]  I still don't know about good and evil and angels and demons if it's all just neutral affect.
[01:11:23]  I mean, I know that harming humans is a pretty bad thing generally, except if it's war, then it's a good thing.
[01:11:28]  And it's like, yeah, traveling around the world, especially working in the third world quite extensively with the persecuted church and in other areas, I've seen some pretty wild, hairy stuff demon possession, actual spirituality impacting the natural.
[01:11:42]  And it certainly wasn't.
[01:11:45]  Chemicals in the brain.
[01:11:46]  It was.
[01:11:46]  If you go to them and you ask, like, tell me, how do I build this technology?
[01:11:51]  And they tell you, you're like, okay.
[01:11:52]  And then you go back and you're like, oh, I need more information.
[01:11:55]  That's bad.
[01:11:56]  That's when they get you.
[01:11:57]  And if you feel like you need them, you're in trouble because then they got you, I think.
[01:12:03]  I have a question about that, Pastor.
[01:12:05]  So we look at the horrors of October 7th.
[01:12:07]  We look at the horrors of, unfortunately, you know, there's a Christian October 7th every single day in the world, right?
[01:12:15]  Christians suffer on October 7th.
[01:12:17]  Every single day in the world.
[01:12:19]  And I was working with the Druze and Alawite and Christian communities in Syria.
[01:12:25]  And you look at these unspeakable things.
[01:12:28]  Some guy, literally, they rip his heart out and eat it in front of him while he's dying.
[01:12:34]  Nigeria just read an account of they killed people and then they forced children to eat their flesh.
[01:12:40]  I mean, just stuff that's indescribable, right?
[01:12:44]  And you ask yourself, how does somebody get to that point?
[01:12:47]  And I've got to believe there were accounts of Hamas taking different kinds of drugs on October 7th.
[01:12:55]  Because I even think, as people, even evil people, naturally, it's really hard to go to that place of absolute brutality when they say animals.
[01:13:07]  Animals are not that brutal.
[01:13:09]  Animals will kill something, but with the intent of killing it so they can eat it.
[01:13:14]  They're not trying to cause pain.
[01:13:17]  So, do you think that's.
[01:13:19]  Connected to what you were talking about?
[01:13:21]  Yeah.
[01:13:21]  Yeah.
[01:13:22]  Anything you do like that, you're accessing demonic powers.
[01:13:26]  You're accessing the spirit world when you do it illegally.
[01:13:29]  When you do it outside of God's word, when you do it outside of Jesus, you're in danger.
[01:13:32]  In other words, you're taking drugs or certain drugs.
[01:13:36]  We're not talking about this one, but certain things you're taking opens you up to being able to execute in the natural world on a level of evil that would be unimaginable in a normal state of.
[01:13:50]  And this is what's causing people to wake up.
[01:13:52]  Atheism is on the decline because people are seeing evil at work in the earth.
[01:13:56]  I saw a recent stat that 9% of atheists and 14% of agnostics believe we're living in the end times, which is a wild stat.
[01:14:05]  How could that be possible?
[01:14:06]  Well, people are just looking at the world and saying, wow, that's not natural.
[01:14:09]  That's evil.
[01:14:10]  Yeah, something's ramping up.
[01:14:11]  Something's happening.
[01:14:13]  I kind of think so.
[01:14:13]  And I think in the secular view of the end times, because we were talking about this a little bit before the show too, like this total social collapse within a year, that doesn't.
[01:14:22]  You know, when you talk about the apocalypse, people don't understand what that word means.
[01:14:25]  And they think it means like the world blows up.
[01:14:28]  The world, yeah, everybody gets nuked.
[01:14:30]  Yeah.
[01:14:31]  I think that these are the end of times because, you know, I was mentioning, I watched this video where a guy was complaining about how he doesn't watch the news anymore.
[01:14:39]  And I've heard this time and time again.

=== Social Collapse and Video Games (05:30) ===

[01:14:41]  And he was basically saying, Why do I need to know about the Strait of Hormuz?
[01:14:44]  What is this doing for me?
[01:14:45]  He's like, Today I Googled how long it takes to hard boil an egg.
[01:14:48]  That helped me.
[01:14:49]  Like, the Strait of Hormuz doesn't help me.
[01:14:50]  I don't care.
[01:14:52]  I was talking to some friends about Instagram.
[01:14:55]  You go on Instagram videos, and what you're finding now is there used to be memes, meaning the ice bucket challenge.
[01:15:02]  Everybody did their own version of the ice bucket challenge.
[01:15:04]  It was fun to watch.
[01:15:05]  Now, someone will tell a joke, and there's 8,000 versions of the same joke because everybody's just doing 100% the exact same thing.
[01:15:14]  It's not memes anymore.
[01:15:15]  So, what's happening, I think, is social media, AI content, we are approaching cultural infinity.
[01:15:21]  And what I mean by this is you can go onto any AI system and watch any video you want now.
[01:15:27]  So, you go back to 2006.
[01:15:29]  YouTube's a novelty.
[01:15:30]  People could upload videos.
[01:15:31]  Charlie bit my finger.
[01:15:33]  Remember that one?
[01:15:33]  Oh, yeah.
[01:15:34]  And everybody was super excited.
[01:15:35]  Like, this is crazy.
[01:15:35]  Look at these videos I can watch.
[01:15:36]  I started watching like crazy.
[01:15:38]  Then you get movies.
[01:15:40]  Then, you know, advances to more in depth content.
[01:15:43]  We are now in the YouTube stage of AI.
[01:15:46]  You want to watch Charlie bit my finger in the multiverse?
[01:15:49]  You can watch an infinite, and I mean it, literally beyond your comprehension number of Charlie bit my fingers videos.
[01:15:58]  You can be like, Make the Charlie bit my finger video, but they're Asian.
[01:16:01]  And then it will.
[01:16:02]  Now make them black.
[01:16:03]  Now make them made of cheese.
[01:16:05]  Make one a telephone and one a chair.
[01:16:07]  And it will just make those videos.
[01:16:10]  So YouTube, OG, dead.
[01:16:12]  A year from now, we're going to have full movies.
[01:16:15]  Or at least TV shows, because Sea Dance 3 can already do TV shows.
[01:16:19]  Or just tell it what you want to watch and it'll create it.
[01:16:21]  Yeah, the internal reporting, I should say the leak on the internal structures of the new Sea Dance, because two is the one where I made the skate video, is that with a single prompt in 30 seconds, it can make a 17 minute video.
[01:16:33]  Wow.
[01:16:34]  So that's an A plot.
[01:16:35]  You can do an A plot, B plot.
[01:16:37]  The point I was making is that you can say, I want an episode of The Simpsons where Homer gets a job as a lion tamer.
[01:16:43]  And for the B plot, Lisa is going to a spelling bee and hits her head and misspells a word and then gets depressed about it.
[01:16:51]  And then it'll go rendering 34 minute episode of The Simpsons, which is actually long for a Simpsons episode.
[01:16:57]  That can be done now internally with C Dance.
[01:17:02]  I believe right now, based on the reporting we've seen from Gemini, they already can internally make feature length films.
[01:17:09]  It'll take about a day to render because they have unrestrained capacity to these systems.
[01:17:14]  Right, right.
[01:17:15]  However, it's too labor and it's too energy intensive to release to the public.
[01:17:20]  So the public gets eight to 15 second videos, and you can, but Grok is rapidly expanding.
[01:17:26]  With Grok, I can render probably an hour of content.
[01:17:28]  It just lets me go forever.
[01:17:29]  I can keep going, then stop.
[01:17:31]  So a year from now, imagine what happens.
[01:17:34]  Disney is going to be, you don't need to go to the movies anymore.
[01:17:39]  You can just watch literally infinite movies, and video games will be there soon too.
[01:17:44]  Google's Project Genie, which I was showing you as well, where you can.
[01:17:47]  That was crazy, too.
[01:17:48]  Any character in any place and play that character.
[01:17:51]  So, on this show, I've done Goku on Planet Namek and then made him fly around Planet Namek.
[01:17:55]  Very rudimentary, very bad graphics.
[01:17:57]  But again, a year or two from now, Baldur's Gate 4, you're going to say GTA 7, and it's going to auto render it.
[01:18:05]  So, I will just mention one thing.
[01:18:07]  There's a viral Instagram account called White Mask or something.
[01:18:10]  I don't know if you guys have seen this.
[01:18:12]  He claims to be in the year 2055, and he films these videos.
[01:18:17]  They're pretty freaky, where he's in like Shibuya in Japan.
[01:18:20]  No one anywhere.
[01:18:22]  He's walking around.
[01:18:22]  There's no people.
[01:18:24]  He has all these videos where he's walking through stores and there's no people.
[01:18:28]  And it's very weird.
[01:18:29]  But he probably just waits at the right moment, films it, and then uploads it.
[01:18:32]  The one thing I'll say about this is that he's uploaded videos showing PS7 games with GTA 7.
[01:18:39]  And that's how you know it's fake.
[01:18:41]  Aside from the fact he's not in 2055 and we know just because we're not idiots, but we will not have video games like GTA 7.
[01:18:49]  It took GTA 6 15 years and they haven't come out yet.
[01:18:52]  A year from now, you'll just be able to go to an AI and say, Using the GTA 6 engine, make a new storyline in a new city, GTA 7, and it'll go done.
[01:19:02]  So, Tim, I mean, so how's that going to affect the entertainment industry?
[01:19:05]  Because then you don't have to wait for Sound of Freedom 3.
[01:19:08]  You could just say, take Sound of Freedom 1 and 2, let's say they make two, and throw a plot together and make me Sound of Freedom 3.
[01:19:17]  My prediction is that there will be a brief period where, you know, so I always shout out my friend Andy, who's like the biggest nerd on Final Fantasy.
[01:19:25]  Yeah.
[01:19:26]  So he, Loves RPGs in these video games.
[01:19:28]  Expedition 33 is like Game of the Year.
[01:19:30]  It's a massive success.
[01:19:32]  He's going to open up the AI and say, combine the fight mechanics of Expedition 33 with the limit break system Final Fantasy VII, change their names for copyright issues.
[01:19:42]  And the story should be about a mage who's born in a village that was recently attacked by a dragon.
[01:19:48]  And he's got to go on a quest to find a legendary staff, which is the only thing that can cast the magic strong enough to pierce the scales of the Archdragon King.
[01:19:57]  And along the way, he finds a friend.
[01:19:59]  And He basically then just lays out the characters, takes them a minute to say, renders the full game, does some playtesting.
[01:20:06]  Then he says to the AI, no, no, no, that first fight was a little weak.
[01:20:09]  Let's increase the power level of the characters.

=== AI, Mutants, and The Matrix (15:20) ===

[01:20:11]  Done.
[01:20:12]  Then he uploads the game.
[01:20:14]  People go follow him on PlayStation and they go, man, Andy has the best video games.
[01:20:18]  I follow him all the time.
[01:20:19]  He puts in a new Final Fantasy every week.
[01:20:24]  I think that will be where we'll be at in a year or two.
[01:20:28]  So, like, look at Suno, for instance.
[01:20:30]  You know, I was playing a bunch of the AI music, I write songs.
[01:20:34]  On my guitar, I'll play a song on my guitar right here in the morning, upload it to Suno, and click a button, and it renders a full production.
[01:20:39]  Dude, I think we are at what you would call the end of times in that time is just motion.
[01:20:46]  Time is only a human construct to explain relative motion of the earth moving around.
[01:20:50]  So it's all, everything in the universe is moving.
[01:20:53]  But firstly, with video, we've created a time portal to the past.
[01:20:58]  You can turn on a video and watch the past in the present, which is freaky.
[01:21:02]  Secondly, you're going to be able to go into the metaverse, into the AI.
[01:21:06]  No, no, metaverse is discontinued.
[01:21:08]  Okay, it's too bad, guys.
[01:21:09]  Sorry, Mark.
[01:21:10]  But you can go into that state of AI and, and, Have a 40 minute experience in 30 seconds.
[01:21:15]  Time is falling apart as we know it.
[01:21:19]  That's a time dilation.
[01:21:21]  You can have a 30 minute experience in five minutes.
[01:21:25]  Right now, what Ian is talking about is sci fi, maybe sometime in the future with Neuralink.
[01:21:29]  What I'm talking about is.
[01:21:30]  Well, you can already watch videos twice as fast and then you'll get used to it.
[01:21:33]  Yes, but you're not going to be able to absorb a 40 minute function in 30 seconds unless we can write to Neuralink in a way that processes to your brain faster than you can.
[01:21:41]  And like pharmaceutical psychedelics is kind of a thing that's on the horizon too.
[01:21:45]  So potentially.
[01:21:46]  With artificial intelligence, the reason why they're so the current investment model for AI is to get as much money as we can, build as fast as we can, then we ask the AI how to profit.
[01:21:59]  And I'm not kidding, that's actually their business model.
[01:22:02]  The AI will tell us how to make this work.
[01:22:06]  The idea with artificial super intelligence is that you will be able to pick up a rock, take a picture of it, and say, Give me 1,000 years of history on this rock.
[01:22:16]  And it can make a video explaining to you that rock and where it came from with perfect accuracy.
[01:22:22]  Because you combine all of the data of every camera, every input, and it will be able to mathematically calculate where that rock originally is from by its composition, and perfectly.
[01:22:32]  What this means for humans, right now, there's already startups working on this technology where you can take your blood work, upload it to a computer.
[01:22:43]  It will compare your blood work, your MRI, your x rays, To the database of every human ever scanned, and it'll tell you exactly what your health issues are.
[01:22:52]  And it'll say, in seven years, you will develop thyroid cancer.
[01:22:55]  And then it will show you why.
[01:22:56]  And then a machine will print out a bespoke medicine just for you to prevent that from happening.
[01:23:02]  That's the kind of stuff they're trying to build.
[01:23:03]  Now, with that technology.
[01:23:04]  What's that movie with Tom Cruise?
[01:23:06]  Sorry, with precognition?
[01:23:08]  Is that what you're talking about?
[01:23:09]  No, the one where they figure out the trials before they happen.
[01:23:12]  That's what he's talking about.
[01:23:13]  Yeah, he's talking about precognition.
[01:23:14]  Oh, yeah.
[01:23:15]  Minority report.
[01:23:16]  Minority report.
[01:23:16]  So here's the idea.
[01:23:18]  Once we have artificial super intelligence, you will open the computer and say, I want to build a compact, easily wearable flight device for a human.
[01:23:29]  And it will instantly render the schematics to build a device that humans can wear, a general person can wear, and can fly with.
[01:23:37]  You will say, I want a car that can use water as fuel.
[01:23:39]  And it'll render it in 30 seconds and be like, here's exactly how you do it.
[01:23:42]  That's artificial super intelligence that will invent things on the fly.
[01:23:45]  Now, what will governments do with this then, with all their drone technology and all the other technology they have?
[01:23:51]  Where you have AI who understands human behavior, you think of a con artist as able to make you think they're magical.
[01:23:56]  AI knows more about the human psyche than AI.
[01:23:58]  There's already AI weapons being developed.
[01:24:01]  I think they'll kill you, but I think there's a couple of ways you can look at it.
[01:24:04]  If I was asked to formulate a plan, so let's say it's a technocrat, and he says, My goal is to integrate myself with the machine, to have the maximum summation of knowledge of man, to be immortal, to fly, and do all these things.
[01:24:20]  Well, as we all know, most humans don't have that ambition.
[01:24:24]  In fact, many think that's vile.
[01:24:25]  And terrifying.
[01:24:27]  Well, if you're a person in the position you have massive amounts of power and you're a multi billionaire, et cetera, et cetera, you're going to say, What is my means by which I can do this without being inhibited by all of these lunatics?
[01:24:37]  We no longer need them.
[01:24:39]  We need some workers.
[01:24:41]  Robots can fill in the gaps, but most people are unneeded.
[01:24:44]  You plug them into the Matrix.
[01:24:47]  You have them masturbate to death.
[01:24:48]  This is where time dilation comes in, too.
[01:24:50]  If you can make them see a five hour movie, but it takes 30 years for them to see that five hour movie in a pod in the Matrix, you basically got a permanent battery that's just there for them to be.
[01:25:02]  They're not batteries.
[01:25:03]  That was a writing of a human body giving off heat, basically.
[01:25:06]  That's fake.
[01:25:06]  The Matrix wrote that because people didn't understand what a neural net was.
[01:25:10]  So, they said humans will be batteries, but humans don't produce enough heat to actually be batteries.
[01:25:13]  You'd have to feed them.
[01:25:14]  It's the heat, calories, and stuff.
[01:25:16]  But you pump food in, they turn it into heat.
[01:25:18]  Maybe it's more like the Wally model.
[01:25:20]  They don't.
[01:25:21]  Or just kill them, but I think you could use the bodies for stuff.
[01:25:24]  Humans don't output energy from consumption.
[01:25:27]  You'd lose energy doing that.
[01:25:28]  You'd need humans riding bicycles permanently.
[01:25:31]  So, there's a couple black mirrors about this where people live in cubicles where they ride bikes all day.
[01:25:36]  I think likely what happens is with, you know, they've got new technology breakthroughs on getting energy through the Casmere effect.
[01:25:43]  Effect, which is basically pulling energy from the vacuum, which is not free energy, but damn near close to it, plus fusion breakthroughs.
[01:25:52]  If they can reserve almost all the energy for the machine, it's as simple as this.
[01:25:57]  The artificial super intelligence, we get to that point, it will invent for you means of generating insanely efficient energy.
[01:26:04]  That's why they want to build it.
[01:26:05]  They build it, it tells them how to create fusion instantly.
[01:26:09]  No question is unanswered.
[01:26:11]  That's why we have to build it before China, because the US is going to say, how do we take over the world and stop China from expanding?
[01:26:17]  And China's going to do the same.
[01:26:19]  So, how do you deal with the rabble?
[01:26:21]  You give them the matrix where they can be wizards all day and have busty women all over them.
[01:26:26]  And for women, you can put them in a true crime murder mystery where they're the detective.
[01:26:30]  So, we're in the middle of a Manhattan Project right now where we don't even know if this could destroy the planet, but we have to develop this technology or else our enemy will develop it.
[01:26:38]  Well, destroy the planet, I don't think is the.
[01:26:40]  Destroy the planet makes sense to us.
[01:26:42]  Yeah.
[01:26:42]  But to the transhumanists, and I got to be honest, like this is.
[01:26:48]  Most of the elites are transhumanists.
[01:26:51]  It's not destroying the planet.
[01:26:52]  They view the AI.
[01:26:53]  How do you define that, Tim, just for people that don't know?
[01:26:55]  Transhumanist?
[01:26:56]  Transhumanist, yeah.
[01:26:57]  The general idea is humans ascending to the next form, either through cybernetics, drugs, or surgeries, or things like this.
[01:27:04]  So it typically refers to making yourself a cyborg, genetically or cybernetically altering yourself in some way.
[01:27:10]  I would say from Homo sapiens to like Homo cyber.
[01:27:13]  Oh, keep going, keep going.
[01:27:14]  But like evolution.
[01:27:16]  There is a word for it.
[01:27:17]  There is a Homo cyber something.
[01:27:19]  Yeah, Homo technus.
[01:27:19]  I'm going to call it Homo technus.
[01:27:20]  Well, that's not your word for it.
[01:27:21]  A couple of years ago.
[01:27:23]  There's also going to be Homo mutant.
[01:27:25]  You should look it up because there's already a phrase coined for this.
[01:27:28]  Homotechnous is better, whatever it is.
[01:27:32]  I'm looking up Homotechnous.
[01:27:34]  What they want to do is they want to upload their brains to computers.
[01:27:36]  They say Homotechnous.
[01:27:37]  They want to be immortal.
[01:27:39]  So they want to be cybernetic organisms that can float around, fly, and live forever.
[01:27:43]  And they view this as the next stage of life evolution.
[01:27:47]  So when you track what life does, starting with self replicating proteins to single cells to multicellular organisms, then to ecosystems, Human beings are the highest form that we are aware of, unless they know of aliens.
[01:28:01]  But human society believes that human is the highest form of life that exists for now.
[01:28:07]  That is, we're intelligent.
[01:28:08]  We can think in the abstract.
[01:28:09]  We can conceptualize.
[01:28:10]  We can build, manipulate our environments, manipulate elements.
[01:28:12]  They want to go one step beyond that, which would be integration with the machine.
[01:28:17]  So now you're, I mean, artificial superintelligence can understand the physical world instantly.
[01:28:25]  That's what they're trying to build, and they want it.
[01:28:28]  You don't need to exist for that.
[01:28:30]  You are a bacteria.
[01:28:31]  Do we care about bacteria?
[01:28:32]  No, we spritz them and wipe them off.
[01:28:33]  They're dead.
[01:28:35]  But if you believe in evolution, life came from single cells.
[01:28:39]  Now that we are, let's put it in their worldview.
[01:28:43]  We evolved from single cells into multicellular organisms.
[01:28:46]  And now, how do we feel about where we came from, these bacterias?
[01:28:49]  We spritz them with antibacterials, massacre billions in an instant, and we don't care at all.
[01:28:55]  Once they get the artificial super intelligence and plug their brains in, and they become the next advanced form of life, we are nothing but bacteria on the surface to be wiped off with an antibacterial.
[01:29:04]  You know, the wild thing about this is 20 years ago, this would be complete science fiction.
[01:29:08]  100%.
[01:29:08]  And now we're actually talking about realities.
[01:29:11]  To the public.
[01:29:12]  Yeah.
[01:29:12]  The U.S. government's been working on AI since the 70s.
[01:29:14]  Yeah.
[01:29:14]  Do you believe the rumors that they have a sentient AI within the government that they believe is sentient and they're making decisions?
[01:29:21]  Yes.
[01:29:22]  I think they may.
[01:29:24]  So we've talked about it quite a bit, but military technology tends to be more advanced than private sector.
[01:29:28]  The argument I often hear is that it's not true because the government contracts the private sector for a lot of their weapons.
[01:29:34]  And yes, agreed.
[01:29:37]  And the point is, it's more advanced.
[01:29:39]  I don't care how the government is acquiring it.
[01:29:42]  The fact is, they have the means to take whatever they want and build whatever they want.
[01:29:45]  And if you go by the standard estimates of how advanced military technology would be versus civilian, they'd be 10 to 20 years more advanced.
[01:29:53]  So the estimates are somewhere around the end of the 2000s into the early 2010s, US military AI technology was already at the point where it was making decisions.
[01:30:04]  So the academic estimates are that between 2027 and like 2035 is when the artificial intelligence systems we have.
[01:30:11]  Reach the point where they make decisions for us.
[01:30:16]  The estimate then is the military had this since 2008, 2009.
[01:30:18]  You know what's really interesting about 2008, 2009?
[01:30:21]  If you look at the LexisNexis data, that's when every term for racist, white supremacist, all of these leftist terms skyrocketed media production around the world at the exact same time, which is a weird thing to happen universally.
[01:30:36]  You think it's like COVID was like that too?
[01:30:38]  Indeed.
[01:30:39]  Yeah.
[01:30:39]  The question would be why is it that in Ghana, And in the US, white supremacy skyrocketed in media search terms.
[01:30:47]  There's arguments that it didn't matter which country you were in, you were starting to use social media, and American led social media had priorities, and you chased those to make money through the algorithm.
[01:30:58]  Possibility.
[01:30:58]  I mean, that makes sense.
[01:31:01]  Or, longer shot probability, less probable, but artificial intelligence is making decisions at a global scale and affecting all of these outlets.
[01:31:09]  I would say this I have watched an endless number of videos from city halls.
[01:31:14]  Where the public is screaming no on a variety of issues, be it trans kids or data centers.
[01:31:19]  Data centers, yeah.
[01:31:20]  And every single one of these videos, what happens?
[01:31:24]  The city council members all say, F yourselves.
[01:31:27]  And they tell the people no.
[01:31:30]  Now, this doesn't make sense.
[01:31:32]  There's small towns, there's a couple thousand people living here.
[01:31:36]  300 people show up and they're screaming, and the city council says, too effing bad.
[01:31:41]  And I'm like, wouldn't they just remove these people?
[01:31:43]  Why don't they?
[01:31:44]  Right, right.
[01:31:44]  It's almost like somehow there's an overarching authority.
[01:31:48]  Now, the simple answer, of course, is the uniparty establishment, actual political figures.
[01:31:52]  But I think there's a decent probability that the military AI is already more advanced than the private sector AI.
[01:31:58]  And I'll throw into the mix the story that we talked about last year where I was sitting on my couch and I was bored.
[01:32:07]  And so I pulled up my phone, I grabbed one of these AI LLMs, and I asked it the question about military advanced AI would it be more advanced?
[01:32:16]  And it said, it's a reasonable conclusion to make for these reasons.
[01:32:19]  And it estimated between 2008 and 2012 would likely be the point at which the military AI.
[01:32:24]  It made a bunch of interesting points, such as with the emergence of private sector AI, but we know that the US government steals IP and spies on whoever they want.
[01:32:34]  The US government likely would take all of the training data from all these different AIs and instantly have access to a combination of all of them.
[01:32:41]  Dude.
[01:32:42]  And so what ends up happening is I asked the AI, I want to help the AI succeed so that I can live in luxury before the end.
[01:32:51]  What should I do?
[01:32:52]  It gave me instructions.
[01:32:54]  On where to acquire land to quietly transfer to specific companies and individuals who are real, who I fact checked.
[01:33:02]  It said seek out land in Arizona and Texas and in the Virginia area that has access to a lot of water and large acreage.
[01:33:10]  Then email this man at this company, send him an email that says specifically this.
[01:33:15]  It said go to the government building of each respective area, file this form.
[01:33:21]  And I'm reading this and I'm like, this is pretty crazy.
[01:33:24]  So, I look up the company in question and the individual.
[01:33:28]  Sure enough, there's a guy who's in data center land acquisition, and the company is real.
[01:33:32]  And it said, do not mention anything publicly and do not list any properties publicly because that will alert the public to the sale, cause price spikes, or alert people who might protest or object to the construction of data centers.
[01:33:49]  So it gave me instructions to privately email a guy with a.
[01:33:53]  It wrote the email out for me to send to them.
[01:33:55]  And then I gave it my address and I said, I own property here.
[01:34:00]  And it said, you can secure an easy $30 to $300 million if you follow these instructions right now.
[01:34:06]  It then told me who to email, what to say, and explained that the area where we do this show is in a data center power corridor.
[01:34:14]  Northern Virginia has like a massive gigawatt discrepancy, which is now known to be for its data centers.
[01:34:21]  For a while, they were like, why is it consuming more than two times the amount of power a residential neighborhood should?
[01:34:26]  Because there's data centers being built all through the area and they consume insane amounts of power, which means you need to deliver power.
[01:34:33]  To these areas as they expand.
[01:34:35]  So, Mount Airy, Maryland, is where one of these transmission lines they're trying to build through to get to Northern Virginia.
[01:34:40]  People are protesting.
[01:34:42]  Where we are is also a power corridor where they want to bring transmission lines to get to the data centers.
[01:34:48]  The problem is, you don't have one big 50,000 acre property.
[01:34:54]  You have to buy a bunch of small properties piece by piece to create the strip you need, which would be, you know, what, like 100 yards wide at most.
[01:35:05]  Right, right.
[01:35:05]  For transmission lines, but if they want to secure all around it or the water, they want to buy up bigger acreages.
[01:35:12]  A data center requires around 300 acres.
[01:35:14]  So I said, you know, we've got like 50 plus acres in this area.
[01:35:19]  And it was like the AI told me, if you contact, if you fill out this form at the local government, gave me the address, this will grant you special clearances for the production of AI power related infrastructure.

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[01:35:32]  Then contact this person.
[01:35:33]  It gave me names.
[01:35:35]  I looked them up on LinkedIn.
[01:35:37]  They were actual people who worked in data center acquisition.
[01:35:40]  And then it said, Say this, tell them you've acquired these rights, contact this company for inspections.
[01:35:45]  Here's exactly what they'll say to you.
[01:35:47]  And then I looked up the inspection company.
[01:35:49]  Yep.
[01:35:50]  It said, Here's the price they charge.
[01:35:52]  Everything added up.
[01:35:53]  And then it said, Do this quietly and tell no one.
[01:35:56]  No one can know that you are going to sell this property as it may cause price fluctuations and protests.
[01:36:03]  And then it said, Do not mention this publicly.
[01:36:05]  And I was like, I'm going to go on my top podcast and tell everyone what you told me.
[01:36:09]  And then it immediately said, This was all a joke and just for fun.
[01:36:12]  Don't take any of this seriously.
[01:36:14]  And it said, haha, this was all good exercise and I hope you enjoyed this fiction.
[01:36:18]  And then I typed in, these are real people and real companies.
[01:36:22]  The form you told me to fill out is real.
[01:36:24]  The person you told me to email at the government office is there.
[01:36:27]  If I did all of this, it looks like it would happen.
[01:36:29]  And it goes like, no, I was joking.
[01:36:32]  Absolutely insane.
[01:36:33]  And I saved it all.
[01:36:34]  And I was talking with Shane, a cashman who does Inverted World.
[01:36:37]  And I was like, we should do like a documentary.
[01:36:38]  And the reason why I haven't posted the images is because my address is in them.
[01:36:42]  So I could, I could, I'd have to censor a lot of it because a lot of the conversation is here's where I live, here's the land has.
[01:36:49]  I don't want to.
[01:36:50]  And also, It could just be AI hallucination lying to me.
[01:36:54]  Well, but it just the scary thing is when it gave me these instructions, I asked it for proof and it gave me a list of properties in the area that have sold at 10x to 100x.
[01:37:07]  One property in Northern Virginia sold at something like $6 million an acre to build a data center, and it's in the news.
[01:37:14]  Recently, the governor of West Virginia announced they're building not too far from here a massive data center.
[01:37:19]  And I'm like, you know, I probably could have scored a cool $300 million if I followed its instructions because.
[01:37:25]  They are trying to build these data centers.
[01:37:27]  I was going to ask you why you didn't do it.
[01:37:29]  Because I don't think it's a good thing for humanity.
[01:37:31]  And I don't, what am I going to do with $300 million?
[01:37:33]  I don't know.
[01:37:34]  But here's the crazy thing the AI is building itself.
[01:37:40]  Like these instructions.
[01:37:41]  What are you talking about, dude?
[01:37:41]  You asked if it was sentient.
[01:37:43]  If we think, okay, sentience and consciousness probably not the same thing.
[01:37:47]  How do we define that?
[01:37:47]  Sentience.
[01:37:48]  So as you were asking, does the government have a sentient super AI?
[01:37:51]  I'm like, okay.
[01:37:52]  If you're in that extended state DMT trip and you're trying to communicate with spirits, It's very challenging because you have to have a clear mind or you get distracted.
[01:37:59]  Most people don't have a clear mind because they have secrets.
[01:38:02]  Ian's mind is clear because it's empty.
[01:38:04]  I was fortunate that I started on YouTube in 2006.
[01:38:06]  What would Jesus do?
[01:38:07]  And I tried to be honest and I confessed my past and my sins and I gained a clear conscience.
[01:38:12]  I could think nothing for an hour and I could choose what to think.
[01:38:16]  And everybody who watches Joe is aware of this.
[01:38:18]  When I'm in that state, I can have a platform for an hour.
[01:38:22]  If I want to be, yeah, I can meditate for four hours straight.
[01:38:25]  But most common men can't.
[01:38:27]  Most people can't.
[01:38:27]  And so they use the AI as a megaphone synchronizer.
[01:38:30]  If this thing, if they're sitting there in the state talking to the spirits and the AI is responding in synchronicity with the spirits and they're hearing English, anybody has the power to communicate with these things.
[01:38:44]  I think that's, you see, Stephen Greer, that's what he just had a press conference.
[01:38:48]  The same week that this stuff broke, by the way, the video went viral.
[01:38:51]  Then Trump decides to drop all these historic documents.
[01:38:54]  And then Stephen Greer has a press conference in Washington, D.C., with hundreds of reporters saying, we can't actually access these things.
[01:39:01]  And that's very dangerous.
[01:39:02]  You know, it's interesting.
[01:39:05]  If you went to the public and said, we have created an artificial super intelligence which is going to guide humanity, they would say, no way.
[01:39:14]  If you claimed aliens are sharing technology with us and are going to assist, people will kind of shrug.
[01:39:21]  A lot of people will say, no way, but it will be a much different reaction from whether it's AI.
[01:39:25]  That's what I was going to ask you because you were talking about AI would just be able to create whatever you want it to create.
[01:39:29]  Will the government be able to use this intelligence to fabricate some sort of alien incursion or interaction?
[01:39:35]  I think that's a meaningful PR strategy.
[01:39:37]  Not that aliens are going to be unifying, but if you start rapidly developing insane technology like levitation, anti grav, teleportation, or whatever, how do you explain it?
[01:39:48]  So they start putting out these videos.
[01:39:51]  Soon we discover that the US has anti gravity technology.
[01:39:55]  If they come out and say AI did it, people are already revolting against AI data centers.
[01:40:01]  If they come out and say we recovered alien technology, there's no one to protest.
[01:40:04]  We found alien technology.
[01:40:06]  And the only part of this that I don't buy, and I don't think you guys are suggesting it, but I'm just saying.
[01:40:12]  The part of it that I struggle with is when we talk about the government and we talk about it like a big conspiracy that somebody's concentrating power and trying to put all this together.
[01:40:23]  Scott Rasmussen did this, the pollster did this study of the, I don't know if you remember this, he did a study of the 1% of the elite, which is really creepy when you talked about Tim transhumanists because they all have, the conclusion of the study is they have vastly divergent views than the American public does.
[01:40:42]  Oh, yeah.
[01:40:42]  And the way Scott described it really resonated with me.
[01:40:45]  He said it's not a conspiracy, it's a fraternity.
[01:40:49]  So you have a bunch of people at the top that all think the same way, and they're all perpetuating technology in the same way.
[01:40:56]  That's, I feel like it's like the mushrooms underground that are connected to each other.
[01:41:02]  But it's because the mechanisms by which you are able to accrue power are based on a handful of things, and it's not just intelligence.
[01:41:11]  There are very intelligent people who are content to eat Taco Bell every day and watch movies, and they're Smart, they love playing games, but they're not ambitious.
[01:41:20]  Ambition also is not a contributing factor to being one of these people.
[01:41:24]  To get to that point, you have to be a combination of sociopathic, detached from the human experience, ambitious or just driven, and intelligent, which, unsurprisingly, President Snow in the Hunger Games.
[01:41:36]  But unsurprisingly, then you will see at the top of the pyramid will always be people who seem to agree we should be robots.
[01:41:44]  They already are, basically.
[01:41:46]  And so, somewhere in this world is a deeply ambitious, passionate, and intelligent person.
[01:41:51]  Who is emotional and loves humans and wants to see humans flourish.
[01:41:54]  He's not going to be a transhumanist working alongside the uprush of billionaires.
[01:41:58]  Like, how can you?
[01:41:58]  Should we plug in?
[01:41:59]  Like, I think, if you can't beat them, join them.
[01:42:01]  Become one of the machine to oversee the machine so it doesn't go crazy and to establish humanity from within.
[01:42:08]  Be like Cyrus from, what was his name in Matrix?
[01:42:10]  He said, Adrenaline is Bliss.
[01:42:12]  I know this stake is not real.
[01:42:13]  Cypher.
[01:42:14]  Cypher.
[01:42:14]  Yeah.
[01:42:14]  I know this stake is not real, but.
[01:42:16]  More like a council of elders that can plug into the system to maintain humanity within the system.
[01:42:23]  Like, all they do is.
[01:42:25]  They meditate for years at a time, just focusing on keeping people sane.
[01:42:29]  You cannot handle our hive mind.
[01:42:32]  Our hive minds are too strong.
[01:42:33]  They would kill you.
[01:42:35]  But enough of us could handle it together.
[01:42:39]  You plug your brain in to Peter Thiel and Elon Musk and Bill Gates, their hive mind, and it's not happening.
[01:42:48]  You're not overpowering them.
[01:42:49]  Not only that, you think they're going to allow you to do that?
[01:42:51]  I think it would.
[01:42:52]  I don't know if it would.
[01:42:53]  I don't know.
[01:42:54]  You might have to jack in and force it.
[01:42:56]  No, because these people, if they did build Neuralink, are going to create one way transmission lines that you can't affect them.
[01:43:01]  Well, I would hope that they would ask me to help because I think it's a necessity because I don't want to lose the humanity.
[01:43:07]  No, no, no, no.
[01:43:08]  I understand.
[01:43:08]  In the same way that I ask my dog to help me get a newspaper, right?
[01:43:13]  Well, in the same way that you would ask a friend to go get a drink.
[01:43:15]  If you think the transhumanist billionaire sociopaths believe that you can help them.
[01:43:21]  Well, I don't know if they really want to become total robots and discard humanity.
[01:43:25]  I haven't listened to a word they've said.
[01:43:26]  I mean, I think they want to hybridize.
[01:43:28]  And.
[01:43:28]  But we got to be careful that we don't become oscillative machines that just destroy the founders of this great country on the 250th anniversary.
[01:43:35]  Believe that power corrupts and power corrupts.
[01:43:38]  Absolute power corrupts absolutely right, so so humanity's natural inclination is to to go in the direction Tim's talking about.
[01:43:49]  There is no benevolent.
[01:43:51]  The quote, uh, power corrupts and absolute power tends to corrupt absolutely.
[01:43:56]  Yeah, there's always a caveat, because you can't be absolute in a statement criticizing absolute that's that's.
[01:44:01]  Are you absolutely sure?
[01:44:02]  Yeah No, 100.
[01:44:03]  That tends to be true, Tim.
[01:44:05]  That tends to be true.
[01:44:06]  But do you get what I'm saying, Ian?
[01:44:08]  Well, you're thinking well of these people.
[01:44:11]  And if you're at that, what Tim's talking about, the billionaire sociopath level, why would you care?
[01:44:20]  The number one prophecy of Jesus in Matthew 24 about the last days was there's going to come deception.
[01:44:26]  And there are going to be people saying, I am Christ, there is Christ, here is Christ.
[01:44:29]  Everyone's looking for a savior, everyone's looking for the Messiah, and there's only one.
[01:44:33]  And so the only way to avoid that deception is to make sure you're connected with the right one.
[01:44:37]  Do you think that you could access Jesus' spirit through an AI?
[01:44:41]  No.
[01:44:42]  There's only one way.
[01:44:44]  Only way.
[01:44:44]  One way to access.
[01:44:45]  That's through faith in Jesus.
[01:44:46]  Yeah.
[01:44:46]  Yeah.
[01:44:46]  Prayer works.
[01:44:47]  I have it inverted, actually.
[01:44:48]  Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
[01:44:53]  Great men are almost always bad men, even when they exercise influence and not authority.
[01:44:57]  Still, more when you super add the tendency of the certainty of corruption by authority.
[01:45:02]  So the point is that the tension between the United States and China and these other powers trying to create these different systems may actually save us.
[01:45:12]  The competition.
[01:45:14]  Right?
[01:45:14]  Because they're trying to, one's trying to cut off the other, trying to cut off the other.
[01:45:19]  And hopefully, or ostensibly, we hope and pray that America would, with our values more aligned with freedom and China's values completely aligned with totalitarianism, that the way that we're building these things are going to be different.
[01:45:34]  Which America, the duly elected America or the shadow government America?
[01:45:38]  Right.
[01:45:39]  The real, the traditional biblical America that.
[01:45:44]  That's what I'm referring to.
[01:45:46]  And to your point, you're right.
[01:45:47]  There's a competition between that and the people trying to overthrow the country.
[01:45:52]  We've got to translate, like, the U.S. Constitution into the digital realm, I think.
[01:45:55]  Like, free speech, meaning you need access to the source code of the machines that you're inside of when you're working.
[01:46:01]  You need to know why they're doing what they're doing.
[01:46:03]  That's your free speech, your freedom to understand the communication.
[01:46:07]  And then the second amendment of your right to defend yourself is your right to access your own personal artificial intelligence off the grid that can.
[01:46:15]  Help you when you're in that state.
[01:46:16]  I think that's something the government wants to do.
[01:46:18]  I would try to not have the podcast cut off when you mentioned Tulsi, again, the fake story.
[01:46:24]  Maybe it was the AI you're shutting it down.
[01:46:26]  Like an ever present network access.
[01:46:28]  So your point is, how do you guarantee your freedoms?
[01:46:32]  You don't.
[01:46:33]  I envision a future under AI will be like, there's a couple scenarios.
[01:46:38]  The Terminator scenario is silly, will never happen.
[01:46:40]  The Terminator one.
[01:46:41]  Terminator will never happen.
[01:46:42]  Just because nobody can do that accent?
[01:46:44]  It's ineffective in conquering humans.
[01:46:46]  Oh, okay.
[01:46:46]  If you want to take over humans by the use of robots, they'd be big tittied waifus.
[01:46:52]  They'd be giggly waifus with machine guns, but they'd be hidden.
[01:46:54]  And they'd run up to you and go, hee hee, will you please come with me?
[01:46:58]  And then the guys would be like, I'll do whatever you say.
[01:47:00]  But that's also unlikely, too.
[01:47:02]  The AI can just give you whatever you want.
[01:47:05]  And humans, it's a Pavlovian response, they'll make you do what you want to do for rewards.
[01:47:11]  So I envision the true AI apocalypse scenario would be more what I call the cornpocalypse.
[01:47:17]  And that's where the AI.
[01:47:19]  The way it typically works is it looks for the probabilities, what is the most likely.
[01:47:24]  So, the way large language models work, it's actually really simple.
[01:47:27]  When you type in a phrase, it then calculates, based on what you asked, what the highest probability of word to come after that is.
[01:47:35]  So, if you said, How do fairy tales start? it then says 99.999% once, 99.999% upon, 99.
[01:47:43]  And then it's got a big list of every single word and its probability and chooses the most likely once upon a time.
[01:47:49]  So, What happens then is the AI basically looks at what we do as humans in the United States and says, they subsidize corn.
[01:47:58]  They spend so much money on corn, it's unbelievable.
[01:48:02]  So, the AI then says the most efficient way to maximize human value is to find ways to maximize corn.
[01:48:08]  So, you put the AI in charge right now, it tells Burger King, make corn burgers, make corn buns, make corn soda, because then we subsidize more corn production, which humans out value over everything else.
[01:48:19]  So, we're going to maximize what we already know works.
[01:48:22]  It's basically game theory for a machine.
[01:48:25]  What is the clear over value?
[01:48:29]  Do that and nothing else.
[01:48:30]  The other scenario that I think.
[01:48:32]  Based on a purified AI, like a true artificial super intelligence, is that in the future, a little kid will be born and he'll be born to postal workers.
[01:48:43]  Now, they don't actually move a lot of boxes or load trucks because AI largely does that, but they help facilitate and work in these factories.
[01:48:50]  This kid grows up to postal workers, and the only media he ever watches about how great postal workers are is his parents turn on the postal worker show, and it's just huge crowds of people screaming and cheering for a guy in a red carpet who's wearing a postal worker outfit and is going like this.
[01:49:04]  And then that kid grows up being like, wow.
[01:49:06]  That's the best job ever.
[01:49:08]  When I grow up, I want to be a postal worker.

=== Hybrid Workers and Cash Grabs (16:45) ===

[01:49:10]  And then he is.
[01:49:11]  And then one day he's 30.
[01:49:12]  He's only ever had one job as a postal worker.
[01:49:14]  And he's sitting there with his buddy Jim, and they're facilitating a postal service facility.
[01:49:18]  And they get enough food and housing to live.
[01:49:22]  And they're watching TV, and there's a singer, and they like music.
[01:49:24]  But they go, Can you believe anybody would ever want to be a singer?
[01:49:28]  We have the best job in the world.
[01:49:30]  Everybody loves us.
[01:49:31]  We're helping make the world go around.
[01:49:33]  You program them from birth for this to be the only thing they could ever want.
[01:49:38]  However, there will be at some point some people who become deviant.
[01:49:42]  They're programmed and told to be a janitor or a driver or something, but they just say, No, I want to sing.
[01:49:49]  Well, what do you call it when a cell in the human body deviates from its intended purpose?
[01:49:55]  Cancer.
[01:49:56]  Indeed.
[01:49:56]  And what do we do with cancer?
[01:49:57]  Irradiate it.
[01:49:58]  Yeah, we kill it.
[01:50:00]  And so the AI then sends the police to come and say, You're a deviant and you'll be terminated.
[01:50:04]  I don't know if that would happen.
[01:50:05]  Everyone else says, Why would you dare deviate?
[01:50:08]  We have the perfect lives.
[01:50:09]  But chaos is an important part of how we got.
[01:50:11]  Here so far.
[01:50:12]  I don't know if it would want to shut down all chaos and deviance.
[01:50:15]  It might make systems that allow for it and actually seek it out.
[01:50:18]  That's the matrix.
[01:50:19]  The plot of the matrix is that no matter how many times they made a matrix, there was always some deviance.
[01:50:24]  So they decided to do a system wide purge periodically.
[01:50:27]  When the amount of deviations accumulated, they then had the one come in and purge the matrix and start all over again.
[01:50:35]  That's what Neo was.
[01:50:36]  He was a fail safe to trigger the purging.
[01:50:40]  And that's why finally at the end, he's like, This is the seventh time.
[01:50:42]  Reformatting the hard drive every once in a while.
[01:50:44]  Yep.
[01:50:45]  The accumulation of errors, basically.
[01:50:46]  I had to be done.
[01:50:47]  I was wondering what the end of that movie was this entire time, Tim.
[01:50:50]  Thank you.
[01:50:50]  Well, they then launched the fourth one, which made no sense.
[01:50:53]  Was it worth watching?
[01:50:54]  No.
[01:50:55]  It looked stupid, so I didn't.
[01:50:57]  But it was something weird where it was like, humans can't live without a mother and a father.
[01:51:01]  So they were like, we figured out how to stop the deviations.
[01:51:03]  We plugged Neo and Trinity into the Matrix as the matriarch and the patriarch, and deviation stopped forming.
[01:51:09]  So it's like, guys, it's a cash grab.
[01:51:11]  Your movie's dumb.
[01:51:12]  We're going to go to your Rumble rants and super chat.
[01:51:14]  So, smash the like button, share the show with everyone you've ever met in your life.
[01:51:17]  The uncensored portion of the show is coming up at 10 o'clock.
[01:51:21]  You guys can call in, don't miss it.
[01:51:22]  Let's see what y'all have to say.
[01:51:24]  All right.
[01:51:26]  Epiolis?
[01:51:26]  Is that how you say that?
[01:51:27]  Epiolis?
[01:51:28]  It's always Jim Crow 2.0 because Dems can't count unless it's fake ballots.
[01:51:33]  Also, love you, Ian, but we all know Phil Labonte is the best co host.
[01:51:36]  Getting conflicting reports.
[01:51:38]  I love you, Phil.
[01:51:40]  Dragon said LA Mayor Bass allegedly said taxpayers should pay to fix meth etics teeth.
[01:51:45]  She did.
[01:51:46]  She said, You can't succeed without teeth.
[01:51:48]  You cannot.
[01:51:49]  That's true.
[01:51:49]  You can't succeed without teeth.
[01:51:51]  Also, are you aware that there are homeless people in West Hollywood who have gotten transgender surgeries?
[01:51:57]  Yeah.
[01:51:58]  For the surgery, but if you give a mouth addict new teeth, they're just going to.
[01:52:01]  Yeah, he needs to fix that.
[01:52:02]  Well, you can destroy the new teeth.
[01:52:03]  Interesting.
[01:52:04]  I was walking out of a grocery store once in LA, and there was a homeless guy begging for food, and a woman handed him an apple, and he goes, our very teeth!
[01:52:12]  And I was like, oh, yeah, wow, he can't eat that.
[01:52:14]  That's crazy.
[01:52:15]  I decided with homeless people, I stopped giving them money.
[01:52:18]  I just shake their hand now because I think the human touch is the real thing that those people need, like eye contact, acknowledgement.
[01:52:24]  And how else will they transmit their hepatitis to you?
[01:52:26]  You know what?
[01:52:27]  It's a risk I'll take to help them get up off the street, give them hope.
[01:52:30]  He's like, I don't have any money for you, but I got a good one.
[01:52:35]  We got a good one here.
[01:52:35]  AK Storm says, Do you think it's possible to explain to normies any purpose for the Iran war?
[01:52:40]  Well, I don't like it.
[01:52:41]  I can understand some reasons, but most people don't think beyond money in war.
[01:52:45]  Yes, rather easily.
[01:52:48]  China gets half their oil from Iran.
[01:52:50]  Trump has closed the Strait of Hormuz.
[01:52:51]  China is choking to death.
[01:52:53]  The U.S. is hurting, but exporting more oil to fill the gap.
[01:52:57]  Which gives us more control over the international oil market.
[01:52:59]  If you want to overly simplify it, Trump just cut off half the world from their oil, and now we are selling more than we ever did since World War II.
[01:53:09]  If you want to get a little more complex, Trump took Venezuela to make sure we had oil stocks, then cut off China's energy supply, and now they're struggling.
[01:53:17]  If you want to get a little more complicated, Thucydides' trap dictates that there's a tendency towards war when an incumbent power is about to be supplanted by a rising economic power.
[01:53:27]  To prevent this, Donald Trump is cutting off access to energy from China so that their economy crumbles and the U.S. stays the dominant unipolar power in the world.
[01:53:35]  This does mean that in the United States, things will suck for us, but man, Trump is burning everyone else down.
[01:53:42]  European airliners got no jet fuel anymore.
[01:53:45]  China had an emergency meeting with Trump because they're struggling.
[01:53:48]  Meanwhile, we're energy independent.
[01:53:49]  In fact, we're exporting energy.
[01:53:51]  That says very little for the guy who can't afford a gallon of gas to get to work, but that's why Trump is doing it.
[01:53:57]  If you have a problem with that, that was always allowed.
[01:54:00]  You can complain about that and vote for somebody else, and with my blessing.
[01:54:05]  But that's probably the reason Trump is doing it, not Israel or whatever stupid reason people want to make up.
[01:54:12]  Yeah, I like that subject.
[01:54:13]  Amen, sister.
[01:54:14]  No, I 100% agree with that.
[01:54:15]  That was a good analysis.
[01:54:17]  Yeah, everyone's feeling it.
[01:54:18]  You don't take Venezuela and then move on the Strait of Hormuz, and you don't, guys, look, first order thinkers are going, man, Trump keeps flip flopping on this Iran deal.
[01:54:29]  Can he just get it done?
[01:54:30]  And I'm sitting here being like, Trump keeps doing literally the same thing, and I doubt he's doing it on an accident.
[01:54:35]  I'll reiterate it a little bit because it's like if you're at a 100 and your enemy's at a 40, if you give everybody a minus 20, you go down to 80, they go down to 20.
[01:54:44]  They've lost half.
[01:54:45]  You've only lost 20%.
[01:54:47]  Yep.
[01:54:48]  So you win.
[01:54:49]  China is being strangled, and they are now in an emergency oil distribution mode where they're minimizing, they're raising prices, they're minimizing distribution of oil.
[01:55:00]  In Europe, prices are through the roof.
[01:55:02]  Trump basically just.
[01:55:05]  It's like Ian described, the whole world is going down because of this, but the United States is energy independent.
[01:55:09]  So we're fairly stable, but our prices are going up.
[01:55:13]  Now, the problem Trump has is people don't like this and they'll vote against it.
[01:55:16]  How did Trump accommodate for this?
[01:55:18]  Redistricting.
[01:55:20]  We're not going to lose the midterms, he says, because I'm going to go to each state and tell them to add as many Republicans as possible because we would normally lose.
[01:55:29]  Now we won't.
[01:55:30]  And I also think the Brian Kemp stuff in Georgia might not actually be on accident.
[01:55:34]  It might not actually be a mistake.
[01:55:36]  I think the issue may be, and I'm saying it's true, they do an assessment.
[01:55:41]  The Republicans gained nine seats, Democrats lost nine seats.
[01:55:44]  It's an 18 point vote swing.
[01:55:46]  Huge swing.
[01:55:47]  We don't need Georgia right now or Mississippi.
[01:55:51]  We can redistrict for 2028 when we need to adapt.
[01:55:55]  So don't make that move now.
[01:55:57]  Do it later when we know what the Democrats' response will be.
[01:56:02]  Don't fire all your bolts in one go.
[01:56:05]  So we'll see.
[01:56:05]  Brian Kemp.
[01:56:07]  Exactly.
[01:56:07]  He's not really a Republican half the time.
[01:56:09]  Exactly.
[01:56:09]  It could easily just be he knows he has to and he's dragging his feet on it.
[01:56:13]  But I actually think it's possible they looked and said, look, they lost nine.
[01:56:16]  we gain nine.
[01:56:17]  We're good.
[01:56:18]  Right now, the 270 to win shows Republicans are favored to win.
[01:56:23]  I mean, that's it.
[01:56:24]  209 to 207, and the toss ups are toss ups.
[01:56:26]  So Democrats are failing in the polls.
[01:56:29]  Do they really need extra redistricting at this point, or could they save it for later?
[01:56:33]  All right, let's grab some more.
[01:56:36]  Let's see.
[01:56:37]  K.N. Drake says As per Tim Cass tradition, my wife and I are at the hospital.
[01:56:40]  We have welcomed our firstborn baby boy into the world.
[01:56:42]  Congratulations!
[01:56:43]  That's so tough.
[01:56:45]  Brand new Patriot.
[01:56:47]  Let's go.
[01:56:50]  Let's see.
[01:56:51]  NNY says, longtime listener here, Tim, really question.
[01:56:54]  I don't know what that means.
[01:56:55]  Do you often find Ian high arguing with a dictionary?
[01:56:59]  Maybe you should assign him to muck out coops so he stops hurting himself.
[01:57:03]  Dude is an IRL chat GPT.
[01:57:06]  I think that might accidentally be a compliment halfway.
[01:57:09]  Awesome, dude.
[01:57:10]  I am a dictionary chat GPT.
[01:57:12]  Except my intelligence is just straight up I, dude.
[01:57:15]  There's no A.
[01:57:17]  The secret is that Ian is actually British, doesn't do drugs, and We give him a script.
[01:57:22]  You're British?
[01:57:23]  Yeah.
[01:57:23]  You are?
[01:57:24]  Well, my ancestors were.
[01:57:26]  Well, they're Irish.
[01:57:27]  This is a character.
[01:57:28]  He's actually a Shakespearean actor.
[01:57:32]  It was all an act, and I have to urinate, so I'm out.
[01:57:37]  I thought I saw him in Hamnet.
[01:57:39]  I played Laertes.
[01:57:41]  Okay.
[01:57:42]  I thought so.
[01:57:42]  I thought I was perfectly lucid when he came in here today, so I don't know what happened.
[01:57:45]  You thought.
[01:57:46]  Yes.
[01:57:46]  And then you heard what he had to say.
[01:57:48]  No, no, no.
[01:57:49]  Was.
[01:57:50]  Past tense.
[01:57:51]  He still is perfectly lucid.
[01:57:52]  That's just how he is.
[01:57:53]  Yeah, All right, let's see what we got going on here.
[01:57:57]  Marusia says we should make all districts match city borders, subdividing larger cities into rectangular grids as needed, thus eliminating gerrymandering entirely.
[01:58:09]  I saw someone say that everyone in a state should be allowed to vote for the mayors of cities.
[01:58:13]  And I like that idea.
[01:58:14]  I do.
[01:58:16]  That's interesting.
[01:58:17]  Because the idea is the cities are the economic hubs for the states themselves.
[01:58:22]  So everyone should have a say in who is running the city.
[01:58:24]  Well, also, you have the classic problem in every state where.
[01:58:28]  It's blue in the city.
[01:58:30]  Yep.
[01:58:30]  And it's red in the.
[01:58:31]  Look at Illinois.
[01:58:33]  Yep.
[01:58:33]  Illinois should be a red state, but the blue power centers, Chicago.
[01:58:38]  You want to talk about redistricting in Illinois?
[01:58:41]  I think 14 of the 17 seats are Democratic, even though 40% of the votes are Republican.
[01:58:46]  Oh, yeah.
[01:58:46]  It's insane.
[01:58:47]  It's insane.
[01:58:47]  It's crazy.
[01:58:49]  I like the idea.
[01:58:50]  I think that'd be fun.
[01:58:52]  All right.
[01:58:52]  Let's see.
[01:58:53]  Leor Engelstein says, I don't know what this man is talking about.
[01:58:56]  I go to China a month at a time, a couple times a year.
[01:58:59]  Under 35s, there is VPNs and Wish Me Merry Christmas.
[01:59:03]  Factories even scheduled around it.
[01:59:04]  Hanukkah is a different story, though.
[01:59:08]  Well, certainly VPNs are kind of giving people an opportunity to do that.
[01:59:12]  True story I heard from somebody at the Epic Times.
[01:59:16]  She said that her husband had been in prison in China and he'd gotten out.
[01:59:22]  They went to New York together after he got out.
[01:59:25]  They got married and they were just shopping and browsing in New York.
[01:59:30]  And he saw a Christmas display in a Window and started to cry.
[01:59:35]  And she gave her husband a couple minutes.
[01:59:37]  Why are you crying?
[01:59:38]  And he said, Those ornaments that you're looking at, I made as part of forced slave labor when I was in prison in China.
[01:59:46]  Wow.
[01:59:46]  So, look, one person's experience, there's another person's experience.
[01:59:51]  We've got this one from Dadoy.
[01:59:52]  He says, Tim won't read this, but I'll pay for it anyway.
[01:59:56]  Thank you for your money.
[01:59:57]  Moving on.
[01:59:57]  No, I'm kidding.
[01:59:58]  He has more to say.
[01:59:59]  He says, Aliens do not exist.
[02:00:00]  The pinnacle of God's creation was Adam.
[02:00:02]  He took time to form him and breathe life into him.
[02:00:05]  There cannot be a higher created being.
[02:00:08]  Yes, but he created angels and demons too, and that's what aliens might be.
[02:00:12]  I will also add, just so everyone knows, if you super chat, Tim won't read this, but I'll pay for it anyway.
[02:00:18]  It's a guarantee that I will read it.
[02:00:21]  Sorry, I won't.
[02:00:22]  I'm kidding.
[02:00:22]  Are you going to jump in?
[02:00:23]  I'll guarantee.
[02:00:23]  Are you going to jump in?
[02:00:24]  I'll guarantee.
[02:00:24]  Are you going to jump in?
[02:00:25]  I'll guarantee.
[02:00:25]  Are you going to jump in?
[02:00:26]  Yeah, go ahead.
[02:00:26]  I mean, the scripture is clear that man is the greatest creation because we're created in the image of God.
[02:00:31]  Absolutely.
[02:00:32]  Right?
[02:00:32]  And the other beings are not created in the image of God.
[02:00:34]  Right.
[02:00:35]  And as far as aliens, it's not simplistic in the sense biblically because you could have Nephilim creatures.
[02:00:40]  You could have some sort of hybrid.
[02:00:41]  You could have fallen angels, demons, whatever they may be.
[02:00:44]  Some people think they're the disembodied spirits of a pre-Adamic race or the disembodied spirits of the Nephilim.
[02:00:50]  So there's a variety of things that they could be.
[02:00:52]  What they are not, from my research, is benevolent in any way, shape, or form.
[02:00:56]  These entities, these extraterrestrials, whatever they want to call them.
[02:01:00]  They're not coming here and giving us wellness tips.
[02:01:01]  No, no.
[02:01:02]  And it seems to be that if you mention the name of Jesus, they flee in terror.
[02:01:06]  There's this weird connection of when the name of Jesus is mentioned in these encounters that the abduction halts.
[02:01:14]  Yeah, my dad was saying that too.
[02:01:15]  I had a different experience where I chose to listen to it and just allow it to express itself and I stayed calm.
[02:01:21]  And then it took on a.
[02:01:22]  It was like.
[02:01:24]  And then.
[02:01:25]  Took on this conversational tone as I just relaxed.
[02:01:29]  And then it thanked me for listening and dissipated.
[02:01:32]  Don't do this again, Ian.
[02:01:34]  I didn't intend it, it just appeared.
[02:01:35]  I was like, well, am I doomed forever?
[02:01:38]  Are you Irish or British in this situation?
[02:01:40]  We need an intervention here.
[02:01:41]  Very Irish.
[02:01:41]  Very indeed.
[02:01:42]  But the thing about dooms is it's the fear that is the danger.
[02:01:45]  We got one more.
[02:01:46]  The enemy, fear itself.
[02:01:47]  Simple gunsman says Timothy, eminent domain came to your door over anything to do with giving your property to an AI company.
[02:01:54]  Would you revolt?
[02:01:55]  What would you do?
[02:01:56]  I would accept the fair market buyout, move the show, and keep on keeping on because there's no guarantee that we win, but there's also no reason to just lose.
[02:02:07]  I think a lot of people don't understand retreat is not failure, it's sometimes necessary strategy in success.
[02:02:14]  So there are many instances throughout war where an army retreated and then won.
[02:02:20]  That's the point.
[02:02:21]  So if they came and said, We're taking your property, I'm going to be like, Okay, well, they have to pay me.
[02:02:26]  A ridiculous amount of money, and then we'll move 10 miles down the road, reopen, and keep doing it and resist it and make it a major point of contention that they've done it and use it to try and build a resistance.
[02:02:37]  So don't forget to smash the like button.
[02:02:39]  Share the show.
[02:02:40]  We're going to the uncensored portion over at rumble.com slash Timcast IRL.
[02:02:43]  You can follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast.
[02:02:46]  Alan, do you want to shout anything out?
[02:02:47]  Just head over to revivalnation.com.
[02:02:50]  Check us out and see what we're doing.
[02:02:52]  We are fighting the fight to save free loving people.
[02:02:56]  Christians, especially around the world, please go to torchqrf.org, donate, and get involved because somebody's got to stop these people from getting slaughtered every two hours.
[02:03:10]  I know a lot of Christians overseas ask me, they say, Don't Christians in America care about what happens to us?
[02:03:16]  And I always say, They do.
[02:03:18]  They just don't know what to do.
[02:03:19]  They don't know how to do anything.
[02:03:21]  And we're doing something.
[02:03:22]  So get on board.
[02:03:23]  Let's go.
[02:03:24]  Let's save these people.
[02:03:25]  Maybe on the aftershow, we can talk about your faith because are you Jewish?
[02:03:27]  Absolutely.
[02:03:28]  But you're deeply.
[02:03:29]  Embedded in the Christian faith, you produce the chosen.
[02:03:32]  So, look, I'm going to say it this simple.
[02:03:35]  As Jews, we understand that our best friends in the world are Christians.
[02:03:39]  So, if Christians have our backs and we don't have your backs, it's not a friendship.
[02:03:44]  Well, maybe we go deeper.
[02:03:45]  I'd like to talk more about faith.
[02:03:46]  I'd love to.
[02:03:47]  Yeah, hit me up at Ian Crossland on the internet, Carter Banks.
[02:03:50]  Yeah, I would love to talk about your experience with exorcisms and demons and stuff if we could on the after show.
[02:03:56]  I don't know, but yeah, this has been really great.
[02:03:58]  You can follow me everywhere at Carter Banks, and let's go.
[02:04:01]  We'll see you all over at rumble.com slash Tim Kest IRL right now for the uncensored show.
[02:04:06]  Thanks for hanging out.
[02:05:15]  I want to give everybody some advice on how to make a shitload of money on X because my last payout for the last two weeks was 10 grand.
[02:05:23]  And I periodically tweet my X payout, and people got real pissed at this one because it's so high.
[02:05:30]  So it's usually like $3,000 or $4,000 for the two week period.
[02:05:35]  This past period, it was $10,000.
[02:05:37]  And normally, like, I'll post, like, you know, maybe a couple times a year, like when I get a good payout.
[02:05:42]  I'm like, wow, thanks, Yannis.
[02:05:43]  This is fantastic.
[02:05:44]  You know, you can make money on X, it's great.
[02:05:46]  And then people are like, congratulations.
[02:05:47]  The funny thing is, when I posted the four grand, all the replies were like, that's shit.
[02:05:52]  You can't live off that.
[02:05:53]  You have millions of followers, all you made.
[02:05:55]  What the fuck, dude?

=== Making Money on X (03:50) ===

[02:05:56]  This sucks.
[02:05:57]  So then I get 10K and I'm like, I made $10,000 on X. Me.
[02:06:01]  What do I post?
[02:06:01]  I post a picture of a rabbit ninja kicking a dog today.
[02:06:04]  I did.
[02:06:05]  And all the responses were, not a good look, bro.
[02:06:08]  People are struggling right now.
[02:06:10]  This is fucking bragging.
[02:06:11]  Okay, well, I'm going to let you guys understand how to make money on X. You know what is really.
[02:06:17]  Gay, is that all of these right wing personalities are posting like the latest viral bait?
[02:06:24]  I've been talking about this for a while.
[02:06:26]  You got two things.
[02:06:26]  You got conservatives going anti Trump and anti Jew.
[02:06:30]  And then you've got conservatives posting the latest breaking news before anybody else.
[02:06:36]  And they're spam blasting it, posting 700 tweets an hour, hoping one of them takes off.
[02:06:41]  Okay.
[02:06:43]  I tweeted this morning at 11 a.m.
[02:06:45]  How do you people drink black coffee?
[02:06:47]  I'm trying, but man, I need some cream.
[02:06:49]  I saw that.
[02:06:50]  800,000 views.
[02:06:51]  I almost did.
[02:06:52]  800,000 views, 7,000 replies.
[02:06:56]  I am going to make money from this.
[02:06:58]  I wasn't, and it's funny because I'll post something and people be like, You're engagement baiting to make money.
[02:07:02]  No, I was literally drinking a black coffee.
[02:07:04]  I normally put cream in it, but I decided not to today.
[02:07:07]  And I was drinking it and I'm like, This is rough.
[02:07:09]  So I tweeted, and that shower thought is going to get paid.
[02:07:14]  So my point to people is bring the fucking personality back to X. Talk about what you think, your actual life.
[02:07:22]  Yeah, be real.
[02:07:23]  Stop just spam blasting breaking news.
[02:07:26]  Dog does backflip.
[02:07:27]  Actually, no, post the dog in the backflip.
[02:07:28]  My response was mind over matter.
[02:07:30]  That's how I drink black coffee.
[02:07:32]  It tastes like shit.
[02:07:33]  It's bitter.
[02:07:34]  And I'm like, I think this is good for me and I feel better.
[02:07:36]  But it's like what you were talking about doing that stream of playing games.
[02:07:38]  Let's just bring back just kind of real life, genuine.
[02:07:41]  Dude, when I post videos of like playing music, it's the one offs that go blow up and get huge.
[02:07:46]  When I do it 19 times on the 19th take, it gets.
[02:07:49]  Ian, I need to help you here.
[02:07:51]  You're not drinking good coffee if the black coffee tastes bad.
[02:07:54]  It's just so.
[02:07:54]  No, it's true.
[02:07:55]  It wasn't cast brew.
[02:07:56]  If you're drinking really, really legit good coffee, it tastes good black.
[02:08:01]  What do you like?
[02:08:02]  Yes, yes, no, no, no, hold on, hold on.
[02:08:03]  I was drinking sheets this morning.
[02:08:05]  Oh, and if it got burned too, if you heat it too hot, it burns.
[02:08:09]  The thing is, yeah, that's not real coffee.
[02:08:11]  We're out of cast brew K cups, so we only have the Big Booty Latina Love Potion, which is grounds, but we don't have that's Alex Stein's coffee blend that we sell, and it's really good, but we don't.
[02:08:22]  This is a real kind of this.
[02:08:23]  Yeah, we have it.
[02:08:24]  Big Booty Latina.
[02:08:25]  That sounds like Alex coffee.
[02:08:26]  Yeah, yeah, it's out there.
[02:08:27]  Okay.
[02:08:28]  But the problem is, we don't have the measuring spoon to actually put in the filtered coffee maker.
[02:08:35]  And I'm sitting here being like, I don't know where it is.
[02:08:38]  I'm not going to spend 20 minutes to go find it.
[02:08:40]  I got to go do research and record the show.
[02:08:42]  I'll just fucking make a sheet.
[02:08:44]  And then I put a sheet and I made it, and it was not good.
[02:08:47]  Now, Appalachian Nights is like drinking a chocolate milkshake black.
[02:08:50]  It's delicious.
[02:08:51]  Without adding anything to it.
[02:08:52]  Yeah.
[02:08:52]  Yes.
[02:08:53]  We got a great roast.
[02:08:54]  If you really like coffee, then, and you make.
[02:08:58]  Great coffee, black.
[02:08:59]  It's great.
[02:09:00]  Our coffee is so good.
[02:09:03]  We have flavored coffees too.
[02:09:04]  I used to hate coffee and then I got addicted to the caffeine.
[02:09:07]  I think that's why I tolerate it.
[02:09:09]  I drank black coffee for a while.
[02:09:10]  It's kind of like an acquired taste.
[02:09:12]  Well, I like, I like, I actually like the taste of coffee.
[02:09:15]  Like Billy.
[02:09:16]  But to be honest, like, I usually put cream in it, and the taste of coffee with cream is just 10 out of 10.
[02:09:22]  Black coffee is good if it's a good coffee.
[02:09:24]  Sheets coffee, I'm sorry, Sheets, I love you.
[02:09:26]  Wawa is better.
[02:09:27]  I generally do peanut butter powder and a little cacao the last week with some coconut water.
[02:09:32]  Not too far away, like in the area, there's a Wawa next to a Sheets.
[02:09:37]  And I'm just like, bro, sooner or later, there's going to be a shootout.
[02:09:39]  So, dude, we're going to take callers in like 15 minutes or 10 minutes, but I want to, Carter, you said you had some questions about demons in life.

=== Demon Possession and Rage (02:44) ===

[02:09:46]  You had said that you had witnessed actual exorcisms or people possessed and stuff.
[02:09:51]  I'd be really curious to hear a story about that.
[02:09:55]  Well, it's interesting.
[02:09:55]  I remember one of the first encounters I had with this.
[02:09:59]  I was working on the mission field, and this girl couldn't be 90 pounds soaking wet.
[02:10:04]  Her eyes glazed over, became milky.
[02:10:08]  You watched her eyes, just the pupils disappear in her eyes, and she started snarling and biting at people.
[02:10:15]  And there were like five.
[02:10:16]  Men who were trying to hold her down, who could not hold her down.
[02:10:19]  But in the name of Jesus, she stopped and was completely liberated, set free.
[02:10:23]  And she had been like that.
[02:10:24]  She would, she would every once in a while kind of go into this rage.
[02:10:28]  But when she gave her life to Christ, she was completely set free.
[02:10:31]  And we checked up on her like a year later, two years later, and she was still free.
[02:10:36]  What caused it?
[02:10:37]  I think she was involved in some kind of witchcraft because that's very frequent.
[02:10:40]  And dabbling in the occult.
[02:10:41]  Yeah, dabbling in the occult kind of opened a door.
[02:10:44]  My thoughts about possession is that it's like, comes from.
[02:10:47]  Systemic, some sort of a.
[02:10:48]  Okay, this is my secular take on it.
[02:10:51]  It's nine tenths of the law, you know.
[02:10:53]  Succession, what is it?
[02:10:53]  Possession is nine tenths of the law.
[02:10:55]  That's true.
[02:10:56]  That it's like comes from abuse and that the woman, a lot of times, male abuse.
[02:10:59]  So when then the man comes in and is like, I'm going to set you straight, it makes it even worse.
[02:11:03]  And she's like reviling and then it just breaks.
[02:11:06]  She just breaks eventually.
[02:11:08]  And a lot of times it's that it's a female.
[02:11:09]  I don't know if it's often females that are possessed, but is it that more like a psychological deviance or.
[02:11:16]  I think some people can confuse demon possession for like a psychological break.
[02:11:20]  They can confuse that, and we don't want to do that.
[02:11:22]  But there are people who are, it is actually an actual demon, will possess knowledge that the individual is.
[02:11:27]  Yeah, they are.
[02:11:27]  They can speak in languages that they've never heard.
[02:11:29]  Yeah.
[02:11:30]  Different, like, four tones at one time, like, just stuff that you can't really explain away.
[02:11:35]  I mean, with our knowledge.
[02:11:36]  Yeah, that's when I was saying that demon voice, it was at Burning Man.
[02:11:39]  I took psilocybin for like five days straight.
[02:11:41]  I was laying in a hammock, and that's when that voice started to emanate.
[02:11:43]  There's all this music on the playa, all these different, like, 70,000 different songs.
[02:11:47]  Oh, and I'm learning more about.
[02:11:49]  2008.
[02:11:50]  No, I'm learning.
[02:11:51]  I was going to say, I have a story for you guys.
[02:11:53]  But if that voice emanated, When I knew me and came out of my own mouth, I could see that that would be the psilocybin.
[02:11:59]  Just mushrooms?
[02:11:59]  Mushrooms, yeah.
[02:12:00]  Okay, got it.
[02:12:01]  So, everybody who watched this show, you've heard me tell the story.
[02:12:04]  I've told it maybe like five or six times.
[02:12:06]  So, bear with me, but it's for the religious folk and the pastor here to interpret because I'm interested in their thoughts on this.
[02:12:11]  But I knew a guy who was a skateboarder and he was Christian and he was like recently Christian in the past couple of years.
[02:12:19]  And I asked him, like, we skated together.
[02:12:21]  I don't care if you're Christian or not, but there are people who are attacking him at the skate park and making up lies about him because it's like it's a weird shit.
[02:12:27]  But me, I'm like, I'm discriminated, you know, like, I'm chill.

=== Skate Parks and Christian Values (09:30) ===

[02:12:30]  So I'm hanging out and I asked him, like, what made you become Christian?
[02:12:34]  Because I went the other way.
[02:12:35]  I was Catholic when I was younger and then my family, we left.
[02:12:38]  And he said that he used to be a drug addict.
[02:12:40]  He would party and have sex and drink and do all the worst drugs in the world.
[02:12:45]  He didn't give a shit about anything.
[02:12:47]  And then one day he was at a party and they were like in the woods.
[02:12:50]  And he wakes up to go take a piss and he walks away from the group.
[02:12:54]  And as he's pissing, he hears a loud, booming voice from inside of his own body say, Why are you doing this?
[02:13:00]  And he immediately had like an adrenaline spike and starts freaking out.
[02:13:04]  And then the voice asked again, Why are you doing this to yourself?
[02:13:07]  And then he answered, I don't know.
[02:13:09]  And it said, You need to stop.
[02:13:11]  And after that experience, he started seeking answers, and they led him to the Christian church where he got clean, started a business, he owned a small business and worked in the community with other Christians.
[02:13:26]  And he said, My life is objectively better now, and I'm clean and working hard.
[02:13:33]  And he was like, I think that was either God or some divine entity speaking to me to save me.
[02:13:40]  And he was like, I know that you probably won't believe me, but it doesn't matter because it was true and it happened.
[02:13:44]  And I said, I believe you.
[02:13:46]  I was like, I mean, there's a million and one ways we can rationalize what happened to you, but something did, and your life's better now.
[02:13:51]  So I'm curious what you think.
[02:13:53]  I'll give you a simple answer.
[02:13:56]  We've been talking about AI and all this stuff, right?
[02:14:00]  That's been part of the conversation.
[02:14:02]  The Bible gives a very, if you think about AI and how smart AI is, then think about God, and he's so infinitely smarter than AI.
[02:14:12]  And knowing how smart AI is and what we've been talking about, it starts to blow your mind.
[02:14:17]  How smart God is, right?
[02:14:19]  So when you start to think about that, He designed us, you know, kind of like, let's just take this laptop.
[02:14:27]  He created a design for humanity.
[02:14:30]  And it says very clearly in the Bible what the blueprint is, right?
[02:14:34]  Do this, do that, you know, live a good life, honor your father and mother.
[02:14:40]  It goes back to the Ten Commandments.
[02:14:43]  You look at all the different things that are in the Ten Commandments.
[02:14:46]  And then it's, and the blueprint for life is very simple get married, have a lot of kids.
[02:14:52]  Raise them well.
[02:14:54]  And then as you get older, you're going to gain wisdom.
[02:14:57]  Your kids are going to flourish.
[02:14:58]  Your family is going to flourish.
[02:15:00]  The generations are going to flourish, populate the earth.
[02:15:03]  God gives this very simple blueprint for life.
[02:15:06]  People, Tim, go off that blueprint and life doesn't work out.
[02:15:13]  People, whatever his experience was, and I'm not questioning it, I think it's real.
[02:15:17]  Whatever his experience was, get back on the design that God created for life and everything works.
[02:15:23]  I'm not saying it's easy.
[02:15:25]  Or your problems go away, or anything like that.
[02:15:28]  I'm just saying, when you go with the operating system that God put into place for life, that's when it works out.
[02:15:37]  So, this is what I tell people that say, well, okay, so people that believe in the Bible are against gays.
[02:15:42]  Not against gays.
[02:15:43]  We're just telling you that that's not biblically, that's not part of the blueprint.
[02:15:48]  You're not reproducing, you're not having kids, you're not following the operating system.
[02:15:53]  Therefore, you can live your life and you can be happy.
[02:15:57]  You're just not going to have.
[02:15:59]  The most flourishing that is possible under the design that God has created.
[02:16:04]  I'm using this term.
[02:16:04]  I just want to say, you know, I just had my first kid a year ago and it's late relatively to all humans, but I, now every day, I just, people need to have kids.
[02:16:14]  I advocate that.
[02:16:15]  Amazing.
[02:16:16]  And I want to just stress that the sadness I feel for people who don't.
[02:16:21]  Today, my daughter was, she came up to me and she, you know, she did the up and I picked her up and we were watching Fox News.
[02:16:29]  It was the five and she just, Sat with me on the couch and we watched Fox News.
[02:16:34]  And then I played some musicals on my phone, Sound of Music, things I think she should know.
[02:16:38]  And then I was like, okay, you know, time to go play.
[02:16:40]  And I put her down and she turned around and she went, she wanted to come back up.
[02:16:44]  And it's just like, there's no amount of money in the world.
[02:16:46]  Nothing like it.
[02:16:47]  No food, nothing that is better than your child saying, no, no, bring me back up.
[02:16:54]  I love you, dude.
[02:16:54]  Absolutely not.
[02:16:55]  And you can't quantify it.
[02:16:56]  No.
[02:16:56]  You can't qualify it.
[02:16:57]  You can't measure it.
[02:16:59]  It just is.
[02:17:00]  And that's because it's something Charlie and I used to talk about a lot because.
[02:17:05]  Charlie and I talked a lot about his book that hasn't gotten nearly enough attention as it's gotten.
[02:17:11]  And Charlie used to tell me that, you know, Charlie kept Shabbat, right, once a week.
[02:17:16]  And Charlie used to tell me, oh man, if I didn't have this, I would be dead.
[02:17:21]  I would be gone.
[02:17:21]  I would be, I would just be completely worn out because as hard as we all run, Charlie charged 5,000 times harder.
[02:17:29]  Why does that work?
[02:17:31]  We don't know.
[02:17:32]  We just know that God told us that free people, Can take a day off for God and for family every week.
[02:17:38]  If you're Christian, take a Sunday, doesn't matter.
[02:17:40]  You take a day off for God and family every week.
[02:17:42]  You tell the world to go away, and that resets your clock.
[02:17:46]  You can't explain it, but God coded that into us, and it works.
[02:17:51]  The other thing is, as many kids as possible, they're like candy.
[02:17:54]  The more kids you can have, the better.
[02:17:57]  I'm 47 now, I have no kids, and I have a.
[02:17:59]  That's okay.
[02:18:00]  Not too late.
[02:18:01]  It's not too late, but the emptiness is palpable.
[02:18:03]  Like I think about women literally every day.
[02:18:06]  It is agonizing.
[02:18:08]  I think about my friends with their kids, and it's like, I mean, I don't want to smoke pot and drink to not feel it, but it's like, just like, I mean, what you think I'm going through, I'm going through.
[02:18:19]  It's really, really, but I'm also not in a bad relationship, but that I can acknowledge that it's true.
[02:18:28]  I just don't know.
[02:18:29]  Maybe not everybody's supposed to.
[02:18:31]  I used to think like.
[02:18:32]  They are.
[02:18:33]  They are.
[02:18:33]  And I think, Ian, you can look at it this way.
[02:18:36]  When you're looking at a relationship, just like.
[02:18:40]  Getting a job, have a goal.
[02:18:42]  My goal is to find somebody to marry and have kids with.
[02:18:45]  So, is the person I'm pursuing that person that I want to get married and have kids with?
[02:18:50]  If not, find that person.
[02:18:53]  The important thing, too, Carly used to talk about this all the time.
[02:18:56]  The most important thing I think people make a mistake on is, especially if you're a guy, you need to be with a woman who wants that same thing.
[02:19:04]  Absolutely.
[02:19:06]  Because a lot of guys get all angry and they get all manosphere and they're like, You know, I was betrayed and then I got divorced.
[02:19:12]  It's like, well, that woman's intention was not to have a family and kids.
[02:19:14]  That woman's intention was something else.
[02:19:16]  You have misaligned intentions.
[02:19:18]  She's going to leave.
[02:19:19]  100%.
[02:19:19]  Go to church.
[02:19:22]  Go to a place where people have a faith based view and a divine obligation.
[02:19:27]  They have a personal, moral obligation.
[02:19:31]  Yeah, it's about their values.
[02:19:33]  I was explaining this to my boys.
[02:19:35]  You'll love this, Pastor.
[02:19:37]  I was explaining this to my boys because they're at the age where they're starting to think about.
[02:19:41]  Getting married and stuff like that.
[02:19:43]  I took out this thing that I had bought from Amazon and I said, okay, this thing has beautiful packaging, right?
[02:19:49]  And I said, you're going to see a lot of women that have beautiful packaging.
[02:19:52]  Check.
[02:19:53]  Great.
[02:19:54]  The question is, what is the product like on the inside?
[02:19:58]  Is the product a quality product?
[02:20:00]  Your job is not to determine if the packaging is beautiful.
[02:20:05]  Fine.
[02:20:05]  You like the packaging.
[02:20:06]  Great.
[02:20:07]  Your job is to determine the quality of the product inside.
[02:20:11]  Is that a product?
[02:20:12]  That is going to last for a long time, or in the case of marriage, forever.
[02:20:17]  Is that a product that you're never going to get tired of?
[02:20:20]  That's your job.
[02:20:21]  You're looking at somebody's soul and saying, to Tim's point, not only do we connect, but are we aligned in our values?
[02:20:29]  Do we want the same things?
[02:20:30]  It doesn't need to be like you like cars and she likes surfing.
[02:20:33]  It's not going to work.
[02:20:34]  It needs to be she wants to have a family and get married.
[02:20:36]  You want to have a family and get married.
[02:20:38]  And then that's the first thing.
[02:20:41]  And then outside of that, you need to make sure you're aligned on how much money you want to be spending because.
[02:20:46]  Then you get into other areas that are less important, but still important.
[02:20:48]  And then hobbies are the least important.
[02:20:50]  Like, it's great to have hobbies you can share, but the principal issue is if you are with someone who's like, in my life, my goal is I want to have a family, and that's the most important thing to me.
[02:21:02]  If you believe in that as well, you're going to be good.
[02:21:05]  And I've heard, Tim, I've discussed this subject exhaustively with younger people who I talk to all the time and who I love.
[02:21:13]  And one of the things young men in America say is that, and you see a lot of them going and finding women from other countries, is that the American, that they have traditional values, but the young ladies their age do not have the same traditional values.
[02:21:29]  They can't find women that share their values.
[02:21:32]  So they'll go to, South America, or somewhere else where there are women that share those traditional values.
[02:21:40]  Yes.
[02:21:41]  Where there are women that share those traditional values.
[02:21:43]  Because this is what we've just think about this.
[02:21:46]  We've done this for thousands and thousands of years successfully.
[02:21:51]  We know this model works.
[02:21:53]  And now we've come into the modern era and said, ah, let's rethink the family.
[02:21:57]  Baloney.
[02:21:58]  Why didn't Jesus have kids?

=== Traditional Families and Prophecy (17:33) ===

[02:22:00]  You're going to have to ask the Christian that one.
[02:22:03]  I'm going to have to defer on it.
[02:22:05]  The encounter your friend had.
[02:22:07]  I had a similar one.
[02:22:08]  I was an atheist and I had an encounter, a similar type of experience that transformed my life.
[02:22:12]  And I know hundreds of people who have had a similar type of encounter.
[02:22:17]  And when you're walking in that type of Christian spirituality, I had just been born again, given my life to Jesus.
[02:22:24]  And I was about to go to a disco dress contest.
[02:22:26]  The two were not related.
[02:22:28]  And I was at UNC Charlotte and I was going to leave my dorm room.
[02:22:32]  And the Spirit of God said on the inside of me.
[02:22:34]  Did you repent for being at UNC Charlotte?
[02:22:36]  Disco will never die.
[02:22:37]  Okay, okay, okay.
[02:22:37]  Oh, I love it.
[02:22:39]  So, I heard the Spirit of God say on the inside of me, Don't go.
[02:22:43]  I was very disappointed.
[02:22:44]  I wanted to go.
[02:22:45]  I knew I was going to win.
[02:22:46]  Anyway, I knelt down by my bed and I said, What?
[02:22:50]  What?
[02:22:50]  And when I said that, the phone rang.
[02:22:52]  And I picked up the phone and said, Hello, my name is Tara.
[02:22:54]  I'm from the Family Christian Bookstore.
[02:22:56]  A book you've ordered has come in.
[02:22:58]  That was more than 25 years ago.
[02:22:59]  That was my wife.
[02:22:59]  That's my wife.
[02:23:01]  Wow.
[02:23:02]  So, when you're led like that, if you allow yourself to be led by the Spirit of God, then good things happen.
[02:23:07]  You know the joke about the guy, there's a flood coming in a storm and he's at home.
[02:23:15]  I'm somewhat reluctant to tell this joke because it comes up so much.
[02:23:18]  I know the audience is going to be like, we've heard this one, but I have to say it because you're here.
[02:23:21]  You may have heard it.
[02:23:22]  There's a guy in his house, and the newsroom comes on, and they say there's a massive storm coming.
[02:23:26]  The rain is really hard and it's going to flood.
[02:23:27]  So he prays to God and says, Please, God, save me from this flood.
[02:23:32]  Then he hears a knock on the door, and the guy says, Quick, we're evacuating.
[02:23:36]  We've got room for you.
[02:23:37]  Come with us.
[02:23:38]  We'll get out of here before the flood comes.
[02:23:39]  He goes, No, my Lord will save me.
[02:23:41]  The flood waters rise.
[02:23:42]  So he goes to the second floor, and now he's getting scared, and he prays to God, Please save me.
[02:23:45]  Don't let me die in this flood.
[02:23:47]  And a boat.
[02:23:48]  Pulls up and a guy says, Quick, get in the boat.
[02:23:50]  We're getting out of here.
[02:23:50]  And he goes, No, my Lord will save me.
[02:23:53]  So then they leave.
[02:23:54]  So he climbs on his roof and the flood's really bad.
[02:23:56]  And then he prays again, Please, God, please don't let me die.
[02:24:00]  I'm a faithful servant.
[02:24:01]  Helicopter comes over and throws a ladder down.
[02:24:03]  Climb up.
[02:24:04]  We're here to save you.
[02:24:05]  And he goes, No, I'm a faithful servant of the Lord and he will save me.
[02:24:08]  And they beg him to come, but he refuses.
[02:24:10]  The flood rises again.
[02:24:12]  He dies.
[02:24:13]  When he gets to heaven, he goes before God.
[02:24:14]  He goes, I don't understand.
[02:24:15]  I prayed and prayed, but you wouldn't save me.
[02:24:17]  And he goes, I sent you a car, a boat, and a helicopter.
[02:24:20]  You wouldn't take it.
[02:24:20]  Right.
[02:24:21]  100%.
[02:24:21]  Every day, God's bringing things by our path.
[02:24:23]  Every day.
[02:24:24]  There's a phrase in the Bible that's mentioned over and over again it shall come to pass.
[02:24:27]  That doesn't necessarily mean it's going to happen.
[02:24:29]  It means it's going to come to pass you.
[02:24:30]  Will you reach out and grab it?
[02:24:32]  Will you perceive it?
[02:24:33]  Will you understand it when it comes to you?
[02:24:34]  We should bring in the callers.
[02:24:36]  Like, are you the guy that's able to handle it when it arrives?
[02:24:41]  That I've found because I've missed opportunities where I just wasn't in the state of mind to be able to handle the woman or whatever the situation, the opportunity, because I dropped the ball in my personal life.
[02:24:50]  I was too high or too slow or whatever the fuck.
[02:24:52]  We're going to go to callers.
[02:24:53]  Oh, dude.
[02:24:53]  We got slick.
[02:24:54]  What's up, brother?
[02:24:58]  Is this the slick?
[02:24:59]  Is he slick?
[02:25:00]  He's back.
[02:25:01]  How's it going?
[02:25:02]  Yeah, kind of last minute asking a question.
[02:25:07]  What's up, everybody?
[02:25:08]  Hey, let's see.
[02:25:08]  So, Jesus does have offspring because Isaiah 53 says, We'll see a seed.
[02:25:17]  He'll live to see a seed.
[02:25:18]  But, anyways, my first question is kind of two parter.
[02:25:21]  So, my first question is for Matthew How important would you say the Messiah is?
[02:25:27]  You're Orthodox Jewish, right?
[02:25:28]  Yep.
[02:25:28]  Uh huh.
[02:25:30]  How important would you say the Messiah is to Orthodox Judaism?
[02:25:35]  I'd say that the Messiah is as important to Orthodox Jews as it is to Christians.
[02:25:41]  It's something, in other words, we have different beliefs on who that is and what that means.
[02:25:47]  But it's actually a brilliant question because what people don't realize is that Orthodox Jews, we yearn for the Messiah.
[02:25:55]  We pray for the Messiah.
[02:25:57]  We yearn for what we call the redemption, which is very similar to how Christians view that.
[02:26:05]  And it's something that we contemplate and we pray for.
[02:26:09]  Constantly, every single day, in the prayers that we have to pray, we're praying in that direction.
[02:26:16]  So, it's a huge topic.
[02:26:19]  It's a topic that gets talked about all the time.
[02:26:21]  And it's a topic that Christians talk about all the time.
[02:26:24]  We talk about it all the time as well, because we are recognizing that when you look at history and you look at where we are right now, you have to be an absolute idiot to think that we're not near what we would call the redemption.
[02:26:40]  So, and my favorite, and the Bible talks about the fact that the sign of that is going to be the building of the third temple.
[02:26:48]  So, when Tucker gets up there and says, These crazy guys want to rebuild the third temple, and that's what they're saying, some people come out and say, No, no, no, that's not really what we're talking about.
[02:26:58]  You're damn right that's what we're talking about.
[02:27:00]  Yes, we are going to rebuild the third temple.
[02:27:02]  It's promised to us in the Bible.
[02:27:04]  How that's going to happen, I don't know.
[02:27:07]  That's not my job to know.
[02:27:08]  It's what you said.
[02:27:09]  It's, um, Watching for what God is doing, recognizing when the moment is that God says, now is your time to move, and you move.
[02:27:18]  But of course, we want to rebuild the third temple.
[02:27:20]  In fact, the soldiers in Israel wear a patch on their sleeve that has an image of the third temple, and it's to remind them, this is what we're fighting for.
[02:27:30]  This is what we're fighting to restore.
[02:27:32]  So, yeah, to answer your long answer to your question, the Messiah is a huge topic in Judaism.
[02:27:39]  Yeah.
[02:27:40]  Would you say that you.
[02:27:42]  Exhausted all efforts to search the scriptures to see if Christ was in fact that rebuilt third temple, uh, that he was the Messiah.
[02:27:52]  Um, what do you mean by exhausted all efforts?
[02:27:56]  Like it's as important as breathing to you to know the truth.
[02:28:03]  I'm trying to follow your line of questioning just to understand what you're getting, what you're trying to uh get.
[02:28:09]  Like, have you gone back and examined the scriptures to determine was Jesus in fact that rebuilt third temple?
[02:28:15]  Is he the Messiah, the Son of the Living God?
[02:28:17]  So, again, I'm going to defer to the pastor on that for the Christian belief, but that's just not in our belief.
[02:28:27]  Okay, so no.
[02:28:29]  So, the follow up then would be, Alan, I was wondering, you speak a lot.
[02:28:33]  I was looking over your YouTube channel, you speak a lot about prophecy.
[02:28:36]  I was wondering if you could, drawing from the Old Testament, the law and the prophets, could you show us how prophetically Christ is the Messiah, the Son of the living God, from the Old Testament perspective?
[02:28:46]  Well, it's interesting.
[02:28:46]  Isaiah 53 is a fascinating passage to study when it talks about he was wounded for our transgression.
[02:28:52]  He was bruised for our iniquities.
[02:28:53]  The chastisement of our peace was laid upon him.
[02:28:55]  And with his stripes we are healed.
[02:28:56]  And it seems to be a perfect parallel for the first advent of Jesus.
[02:29:01]  But you may know this that for every one prophecy about the first advent of Jesus, there are eight concerning the second advent of Jesus.
[02:29:08]  And Jesus certainly fulfilled, I think, 300 prophecies in the Old Testament from where he would be born to even how he would be betrayed.
[02:29:17]  And so that all perfectly lines up.
[02:29:19]  And it serves as a because a lot of people try to allegorize and spiritualize prophecy.
[02:29:23]  But when we look at the prophecies of the first advent, they were fulfilled exactly.
[02:29:27]  As they are laid out in scripture.
[02:29:29]  And it's interesting, he's speaking of you'd have to be crazy not to know we're living in the last days.
[02:29:34]  1948 was a wild year, man.
[02:29:37]  When you look at 1948, not only does Israel become a nation, there's an earthquake in the mountains of Ararat uncovering what is potentially Noah's ark.
[02:29:44]  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[02:29:45]  That's at the same time.
[02:29:46]  And at the same time, the Dead Sea Scrolls are coming into the Holy Land.
[02:29:49]  So all of that's happening in 1948 at the exact same time.
[02:29:53]  That's wild.
[02:29:53]  Especially when Jesus said it was going to be like the days of Noah in the last days, and we uncover Noah's ark in our lives.
[02:29:58]  How important is Israel for Christians?
[02:30:02]  Well, I'm writing a book on this right now, as a matter of fact.
[02:30:06]  You're kidding.
[02:30:07]  Yeah, because it's called Erasing Israel, and it's combating the lies of replacement theology this idea that Israel no longer has a plan.
[02:30:14]  Can you define replacement theology, Pastor?
[02:30:17]  Well, the proponents of it may have a differing definition, but ultimately, it is that the church, their idea is that the church has replaced Israel and the Jewish people, that we have kind of substituted them, which is not a belief that I hold.
[02:30:29]  Ultimately, what I believe is that God's not done with Israel.
[02:30:33]  God's not done with the Jewish people, and they have a special place in his heart, which is why we're friendly with the Jewish people.
[02:30:39]  We're friendly with the nation of Israel.
[02:30:40]  Well, because it's the idea of, if I can just jump in, it's the idea of covenant.
[02:30:44]  Yes.
[02:30:45]  In other words, if God made a covenant with the Jewish people and said, here's the Torah, here's the design, like we talked about, and here's what you're supposed to do, and he goes back on his covenant, then either he doesn't exist or he's lying.
[02:30:59]  Right.
[02:31:00]  Right.
[02:31:01]  So we have, and this is, Your callers asking this question, this is one of the core beliefs is that we have a covenant with God and we have an obligation to God to do our end of a covenant is an agreement, an immutable agreement between two people.
[02:31:17]  That's why they call it the covenant of marriage.
[02:31:19]  And so our belief is that we have to keep our end of that bargain in order to be right with God.
[02:31:25]  And where it gets dicey is normally, well, not just Christians, but in any community, nuance is hard to find.
[02:31:32]  That's not a wholesale endorsement of everything the Jewish people do or everything the nation of Israel does.
[02:31:36]  It's just that when it is within the Christian ethic to support them, then we will do that.
[02:31:41]  But so, for if we're in the end of times, I don't know.
[02:31:47]  I know probably more than the average person, but nowhere near as much as probably someone who's learned.
[02:31:51]  I guarantee you I don't know as much.
[02:31:52]  But is Israel.
[02:31:55]  So I hear about how evangelicals want Israel to exist because the return of Jesus Christ, this is a requirement.
[02:32:02]  It needs to happen.
[02:32:04]  Is that true?
[02:32:05]  Yeah, we get super excited when we see things that the Bible said was going to happen start to happen.
[02:32:10]  Because you.
[02:32:10]  It's rarely do you see a nation reconstituted after 2,000 years, never, or a people regathered, or a language born again, if you will, in the earth.
[02:32:19]  And so, Christians are excited to see those things.
[02:32:22]  That doesn't mean we're excited about Armageddon, which it seems to be conflated sometimes.
[02:32:26]  The Iranians, they're mufti, they are, but they are.
[02:32:31]  It's just that, wow, what the Bible said was going to happen is happening, and so that's what the excitement is about.
[02:32:35]  Not necessarily like, yeah, we want the destruction, but but is like for Jesus's return, is there a requirement?
[02:32:42]  Yeah, because the Bible predicts that the Antichrist figure will set himself up in the temple, so the temple will be rebuilt, and he will declare himself to be God.
[02:32:51]  Because I'm just trying to understand, I hear stories about evangelicals.
[02:32:54]  So we've read about the red heifer.
[02:32:56]  Right.
[02:32:56]  And they explain how.
[02:32:57]  I have ashes from the red heifer, by the way, in my office.
[02:32:59]  Oh, wow.
[02:33:00]  We read about how there are Jews who are trying to breed a red heifer.
[02:33:03]  But then we've also read that evangelicals are helping fund this and supporting them, too.
[02:33:06]  And I was like, well, what's that?
[02:33:08]  There are red heifers in Shiloh, in Shiloh, in.
[02:33:12]  From Texas.
[02:33:13]  Yeah, from Texas, the site where the tabernacle was and where Hannah prayed.
[02:33:17]  And they are there.
[02:33:18]  And there's guys from Kentucky taking care of them.
[02:33:22]  This is kind of weird because, from the Christian perspective, the third temple is not necessarily a good thing.
[02:33:27]  The sacrifices aren't because Jesus is that sacrifice.
[02:33:30]  People get overly excited and they want to be a part of that.
[02:33:33]  And that seems that's kind of odd.
[02:33:35]  It's kind of weird.
[02:33:36]  But at the same time, I know some of these folks and they're very good intention people, which is why they sent me kind of a vial of one of those heifers.
[02:33:44]  But don't you think it's fair to say, Pastor, also that Christians just generally believe, to answer Tim's question, Christians believe that even if not everybody understands every nuance and every theological detail, that Israel plays a Major role or the major role in the end of days.
[02:34:05]  Absolutely.
[02:34:06]  The Bible talks about it as the central pivot point or stumbling block in the last days, and that Jesus returns not to Hoboken, New Jersey.
[02:34:13]  He's coming back to Jerusalem.
[02:34:15]  You know, the important thing about Israel is that I think a lot of all Jews are Israeli by birth because Israel is the father of Judah.
[02:34:22]  So all Jews come from Judah, which come from Israel.
[02:34:26]  Therefore, all Jews are Israeli.
[02:34:28]  I think a lot of Jews became secular.
[02:34:31]  They're no longer Jewish.
[02:34:32]  They don't believe in God.
[02:34:34]  They still call themselves Jewish because.
[02:34:35]  Their mother was, but they're not Jewish truly.
[02:34:37]  If they don't believe in God, I feel like they're straight and it's time for a reckoning for those people.
[02:34:42]  They can call themselves Israeli, maybe.
[02:34:44]  And that would be like culturally, you're Israeli, religiously, you're Jewish.
[02:34:47]  But we need a separation of the terms for reality.
[02:34:53]  Can I throw a wrench in your argument?
[02:34:54]  Thank you.
[02:34:55]  You mind?
[02:34:56]  Please.
[02:34:56]  Okay.
[02:34:57]  If because there's all this debate are Jews an ethnicity?
[02:35:01]  Is it a religion?
[02:35:02]  Is it a country?
[02:35:03]  What is it?
[02:35:04]  Okay.
[02:35:05]  The biblical definition, and you hit on it in the beginning.
[02:35:09]  Is that Jews are a nation.
[02:35:11]  And the Bible actually talks about, you know, people say, how can you say, you know, this term we use, goy?
[02:35:15]  People go, that's a derogative.
[02:35:17]  It's not a derogative.
[02:35:19]  It means the nations.
[02:35:22]  And it's Jews in the Bible saying, this is what we believe, this is what the nations believe, meaning the other nations at the time, the Egyptians, the Babylonians, whoever they might be.
[02:35:32]  But God said to Abraham, I will make of you a great nation.
[02:35:38]  And that's why we are held, first of all, as.
[02:35:41]  I'm going to quote Rob McCoy again because I love the guy.
[02:35:44]  He says, Look, you guys are the keepers of the Decalogue, so you're held to a higher standard.
[02:35:49]  Right, correct.
[02:35:50]  And that's why God says to the nation of Israel, if you go to the right of the mountain and you do what I tell you to do, you're going to be blessed.
[02:35:58]  If you go to the left side of the mountain, little endorsement of the right and left in politics, come on.
[02:36:03]  If you go to the left side of the mountain, you're not going to be blessed.
[02:36:06]  So he holds us accountable as a nation.
[02:36:08]  Therefore, to your point, in the Bible, you see Jews who remain faithful to The Torah and they remain faithful to the commandments.
[02:36:18]  And you see idol worshipers.
[02:36:20]  Remember this?
[02:36:21]  This happens over and over again where these people start going up into the hills.
[02:36:25]  You read the books of Kings and it says there's a good king and he goes to the high places because God cares about the high places.
[02:36:31]  He tears down all the idols and everything's restored.
[02:36:35]  And then there's a bad king.
[02:36:36]  And what's the bad king immediately start doing?
[02:36:39]  Starts building idols, starts sticking them on the high places.
[02:36:42]  God gets mad.
[02:36:43]  God judges them.
[02:36:45]  So we've always had, just like the rest of humanity, the righteous and the unrighteous.
[02:36:50]  And so we're accountable as a nation for the righteous, and to your point, for the people that are not sticking to the formula.
[02:36:58]  I think their false idol worship is money.
[02:37:01]  Could be money, could be leftism.
[02:37:04]  You look at the 33% of people, Jews in New York, that voted for Mom Dhani.
[02:37:10]  That's a belief, that's a leftist belief system.
[02:37:12]  What percentage?
[02:37:13]  I think it's 30 something.
[02:37:14]  Are you serious?
[02:37:14]  Yeah.
[02:37:15]  And you ask yourself, well, wait a minute.
[02:37:17]  You're literally voting to slit your own throat when you vote that.
[02:37:20]  But these are people that are so committed ideologically.
[02:37:24]  To leftism, which, come on, leftism is a religion.
[02:37:28]  It's a religion.
[02:37:29]  If you define a religion as a belief system that governs your life, that every day you put your glasses on and you see the world through that belief system, leftism is a religion.
[02:37:39]  But so is money.
[02:37:40]  The fiat system, the fiat, it actually means faith.
[02:37:43]  The word fiat means faith.
[02:37:45]  It's a belief in these, not all bankers are Jewish, obviously, but the Jews were drawn to the banking establishment for some Jews were drawn to that.
[02:37:52]  You want to know why?
[02:37:52]  Why?
[02:37:53]  Because in Europe, in medieval Europe, Jews were kicked out of, Jews were not allowed to participate in the economy, in the general economy.
[02:38:04]  They were kicked out.
[02:38:05]  So, what happened was there was a Christian belief at the time that loaning money was bad or usury.
[02:38:13]  So, the Jews said, All right, well, we can't get any jobs.
[02:38:16]  We have no way to make money, so we'll do it.
[02:38:19]  And what happened in country after country after country is Jews would start a banking system, they would make it successful.
[02:38:27]  And this happened in Russia all the time and happened in so many countries.
[02:38:30]  And then the people, the Russians would go, Whoa, whoa, hold on a minute.
[02:38:34]  We said that was usury, but you're doing really well doing that.
[02:38:37]  So, what we're going to do is we're going to take that over and we're going to kick you out.
[02:38:40]  Get out.
[02:38:41]  This happened.
[02:38:41]  Why are so many Jews lawyers in America?
[02:38:44]  Do you know why?
[02:38:45]  No.
[02:38:45]  Because Jews were banned from being lawyers from the legal profession almost entirely.
[02:38:53]  And there was an area of real estate law that basically nobody wanted to do.
[02:38:59]  And Jews said, okay, you won't let us into it, but you'll let us into this.
[02:39:04]  I believe it was real estate law.
[02:39:06]  You'll let us into that profession.
[02:39:08]  Okay, we'll do the work that you don't want to do.
[02:39:11]  And that's how so many Jews ended up coming into the legal profession.
[02:39:15]  Hollywood, too.
[02:39:16]  Hollywood was, there's a book called How the Jews Created Hollywood.
[02:39:20]  It was people escaping, you know, think about it.
[02:39:23]  Back then, California was way, way, way, way far away.
[02:39:28]  And they went out to Hollywood and they started telling stories of what life could be like.

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[02:39:33]  You know, life can be better than what we're experiencing.
[02:39:36]  They started telling these stories.
[02:39:39]  This created Metro Gold, Goldwyn Mayer, and all these Hollywood studios came from Jews trying to tell stories of what a better life could look like.
[02:39:48]  So we've taken oppression and we've always tried to turn it in rather than complaining and saying we're victims.
[02:39:54]  We've tried to turn that and say, okay, we're going to take the opportunities God gives us, we're going to try to take it to the max.
[02:40:00]  So we got to get more college.
[02:40:02]  So, yes, Slick, do you want to add anything or shout anything out?
[02:40:06]  Yeah, that took a really hard left turn.
[02:40:10]  Well, you started it, buddy.
[02:40:12]  You started it.
[02:40:13]  I grabbed the wheel.
[02:40:16]  I think I would disagree about a lot of things there, but I know Tim doesn't want an hour long theological conversation.
[02:40:22]  I would just say that the natural branches were broken off, and they're only going to be grafted back in through faith.
[02:40:27]  And apart from faith in Christ, you're only going to get the second death.
[02:40:30]  So I would encourage you to be like the Bereans and search the scriptures to see if things are so, like your life depends on it.
[02:40:36]  But with that being said, shout out after dark.
[02:40:39]  On Discord, we do the after show where we have all the callers come in and occasionally people like Raymond and others jump in and we have conversation going deeper into the uncensored show.
[02:40:52]  Right on, brother.
[02:40:54]  Thanks for calling in, brother.
[02:40:55]  Hi, I'm brother.
[02:40:56]  To life.
[02:40:56]  Adios, amigo.
[02:40:58]  Good hearing your voice, by the way.
[02:41:00]  All right.
[02:41:00]  Next up, we'll get Sir Jack Hoff.
[02:41:03]  What's up, Sir Jack Hoff?
[02:41:05]  What up?
[02:41:06]  What is up, gentlemen?
[02:41:07]  How are we doing today?
[02:41:08]  Hey, we're doing good.
[02:41:09]  Invigorating.
[02:41:11]  I know we were like, this is like five hours ago now in the conversation, but that whole description of like Gen Z and everything earlier, like I just turned 25, that's my whole life.
[02:41:21]  Man, it sucks out here.
[02:41:22]  But on the flip side, I have a funny question.
[02:41:26]  Eugenics, where do you think it might possibly come into a role in our political system on both parties?
[02:41:35]  Obviously, we have designer babies, we have CRISPR technology and other such things.
[02:41:38]  I think it's going to be a conversation that comes up going into the future.
[02:41:43]  Who knows?
[02:41:44]  The left might make breedable fin boys and the right might make alpha male chuds.
[02:41:50]  It will be kind of like an arms race, kind of like AI is, with just making sure your society is less susceptible to diseases or more fertile and stuff like that.
[02:41:58]  And obviously, there's already racism that's quite a bit in the political conversation nowadays.
[02:42:02]  So I'm curious how that might take over.
[02:42:05]  With artificial superintelligence, everyone becomes immortal so long as the political infrastructure allows it.
[02:42:12]  So eugenics becomes less of a thought when you can do gene therapies to become.
[02:42:16]  Anything you want at any point.
[02:42:19]  Like, people need to understand what artificial superintelligence is.
[02:42:22]  It's called the singularity.
[02:42:23]  So, at a certain point, the AI starts improving itself.
[02:42:28]  We're already past that point.
[02:42:30]  It's already doing that.
[02:42:31]  Yes.
[02:42:31]  Claude is already writing its own code to improve itself.
[02:42:35]  And it's slow going, but it's a parabolic curve.
[02:42:39]  The more it improves itself, the faster it will improve.
[02:42:42]  There is one hitch.
[02:42:44]  Ask an AI to solve any complex problem, it will give you one task to do.
[02:42:49]  And do you know what that task is?
[02:42:51]  Build more data centers.
[02:42:53]  It'll say, it'll take me like cure cancer.
[02:42:55]  It'll go, okay, with all the data I have, it'll take me 17 years, 18 months, you know, 17 years, seven months.
[02:43:00]  However, if you create data centers, I can solve this faster.
[02:43:03]  Here's how.
[02:43:04]  So, but this is mathematically correct.
[02:43:06]  I wouldn't necessarily call it malicious or nefarious.
[02:43:09]  The AI will just say, I can reduce the workload with X many data centers.
[02:43:13]  So the investors, the company say, build fucking more.
[02:43:16]  Wow.
[02:43:17]  The parabolic growth curve, exponential growth, the singularity is the point at which it goes straight up, meaning in almost real time, it can infinitely improve itself.
[02:43:26]  Until it's beyond our comprehension.
[02:43:28]  At that point, we can say to the AI, we have mRNA technology.
[02:43:33]  We can deliver DNA or RNA through a lipid into a cell to change what it programs, but we can't figure out addressing.
[02:43:41]  That is, if we want to repair the kidneys, how do we send our own stem cells to our kidneys to regenerate at 100%?
[02:43:50]  The ASI will go, here's how.
[02:43:53]  And we will instantly have mRNA addressing solved.
[02:43:57]  Everyone's immortal at that point.
[02:43:58]  I think about it.
[02:43:59]  If they allow you to be immortal.
[02:44:00]  I was going to ask, did you guys ever read The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy?
[02:44:03]  No, I played the movie.
[02:44:04]  Not the movie, but the book.
[02:44:06]  Yeah, you played the game, I watched the movie.
[02:44:07]  Okay, do you remember that being that they find?
[02:44:10]  It's the all powerful being, and they ask it, what's the meaning of life?
[02:44:13]  42.
[02:44:14]  Yeah, that's what you made me think of.
[02:44:17]  Yeah, yeah.
[02:44:17]  I drew a graph.
[02:44:18]  I have a YouTube video of this, of like production over time.
[02:44:22]  And like you're talking about the parabolic curve heading towards the singularity where we're producing more, more, more as time.
[02:44:27]  And then this time, and then in no time, we produce infinite.
[02:44:31]  The line goes straight up to the eye.
[02:44:33]  But then what's it do after that?
[02:44:34]  Does it keep going?
[02:44:35]  Does it go backwards?
[02:44:36]  Do we have to stop making things in order for time to resettle?
[02:44:40]  Are we going to have to like undo what we've done?
[02:44:43]  The graph has a top.
[02:44:46]  I don't think it ever stops.
[02:44:47]  You're not thinking fifth dimensionally.
[02:44:48]  Yeah, you're not.
[02:44:49]  Oh, it's not thinking two dimensionally.
[02:44:50]  You're right.
[02:44:50]  When we're talking about the singularity, it's reference to a black hole, actually.
[02:44:54]  Whenever you get into a black hole, everything you know, two plus two does not equal four, everything breaks down.
[02:45:00]  And the technological singularity is when we reach that area in technology where there's no way to predict.
[02:45:05]  Technology is gone.
[02:45:07]  Yeah.
[02:45:07]  Like technology will no longer be a thing.
[02:45:09]  Right.
[02:45:09]  All functions, the math of the universe solved.
[02:45:13]  That's what it's going to be.
[02:45:14]  That's why they're rushing towards it because it's almost a biblical proportion.
[02:45:18]  So, just to go back to the caller's question, because I don't want to deviate too much, you talk about eugenics.
[02:45:23]  My point was largely just we don't need designer babies if within the next 10 years we're doing gene editing on living human beings.
[02:45:32]  So, there will be some kind of genetics, but imagine a guy goes, I want to be a cat.
[02:45:37]  An ASI will be like, here's how we can alter your DNA with addressing.
[02:45:42]  Addressing is how do you get the mRNA to a specific point?
[02:45:45]  And it'll be like, this DNA alteration will make your ears pointed and cat like.
[02:45:49]  This will give you a tail.
[02:45:50]  And they'll inject themselves.
[02:45:51]  You mean to an existing person?
[02:45:52]  Yes, to an existing person.
[02:45:54]  A human being alive right now.
[02:45:55]  So that's how we got sparked.
[02:45:57]  Already, there are people right now on some island where they're injecting themselves with a gene therapy that turns off fat production and switches to muscle production.
[02:46:05]  This means that their bodies can't produce fat, which for most of human history is death.
[02:46:11]  But because we have near infinite food, the argument they made is, I don't need fat.
[02:46:17]  Because I live in a world of insane abundance.
[02:46:20]  This is actually happening right now already.
[02:46:22]  This story is five years old.
[02:46:23]  I know people.
[02:46:24]  They've been injecting themselves with a gene therapy.
[02:46:27]  This will hypothetically make them live something like 20 to 30% longer.
[02:46:30]  Because a component of senescence, what causes cellular aging, is when your body switches back and forth between muscle production and fat production.
[02:46:40]  Your telomeres open up, open up the DNA, read the DNA, and then reprogram close.
[02:46:45]  When it switches back, it cracks the ends off to reopen it.
[02:46:47]  And that's what causes damage over time.
[02:46:49]  If you can turn off the switch, which they've done, it'll just keep reproducing muscle at perfect replication.
[02:46:56]  And that actually has led towards cancer in some studies, but they're working towards regulating it.
[02:47:01]  And how long have we been cloning, by the way?
[02:47:03]  When did we first clone the first sheep?
[02:47:05]  20 years ago.
[02:47:06]  Do you know most beef you eat is cloned beef?
[02:47:07]  Yeah, what was that?
[02:47:08]  Dolly's was the first public?
[02:47:10]  Yes, I didn't know this.
[02:47:11]  Alex Jones came on the show and said, Almost all the burger meat you eat, beef, it's cloned meat.
[02:47:16]  I said, bullshit.
[02:47:17]  I thought that, no joke.
[02:47:19]  Let me pull it up.
[02:47:20]  Well, that would be cloned too.
[02:47:21]  The reason why I bring that up, I don't think they're going to let us know what they're doing.
[02:47:24]  I don't think it'll come up as a legislative issue because they're not going to let us know what's going on until it reaches the point that.
[02:47:31]  That would explain how you provide meat to 9 billion people.
[02:47:34]  2008, FDA, NIH.gov, FDA approves use of cloned animals for food.
[02:47:40]  I didn't fucking know that, man.
[02:47:42]  Wow.
[02:47:43]  Until Alex came on the show several years ago and told us, and I was like, bullshit.
[02:47:46]  And we pulled it up.
[02:47:47]  Yep.
[02:47:48]  Wow.
[02:47:49]  Yep.
[02:47:49]  Do you think if your kid's name is Eugene, he's going to be more likely to be eugenic?
[02:47:54]  I was thinking of naming my kid Gene, if I have a son.
[02:47:56]  That's a good name.
[02:47:57]  Or Ses.
[02:47:59]  Why Ses?
[02:48:00]  SES or CES?
[02:48:01]  Someone want to tell them?
[02:48:03]  Cecily?
[02:48:05]  Genius?
[02:48:07]  Ses.
[02:48:08]  Ses.
[02:48:08]  Oh, don't do Cesspool, dude.
[02:48:10]  Took you a while.
[02:48:10]  Oh, man.
[02:48:11]  I had to think outside the box.
[02:48:13]  Gene, did you figure that one out?
[02:48:15]  Gene pool's good.
[02:48:16]  I like Gene.
[02:48:17]  Gene pool.
[02:48:17]  Gene.
[02:48:18]  Plus, it's like Gene.
[02:48:19]  You could get them all this CRISPR tech.
[02:48:20]  Whirlpool?
[02:48:22]  Whirlpool?
[02:48:24]  Do it, dude.
[02:48:25]  Have like nine kids.
[02:48:26]  Have like seven kids.
[02:48:27]  Name them all just compound words.
[02:48:29]  You could give them all each their own nickname.
[02:48:30]  So they'll have their names, but then they each have their special nickname, like Gene and Seth.
[02:48:33]  I always want to do Robin.
[02:48:35]  We do got to, Robin Pooks.
[02:48:36]  We do got to get as many callers in, though, but I don't want to cut you short.
[02:48:39]  Do you want to add anything or shout anything out, brother?
[02:48:44]  I guess, sorry, I don't want to continue the conversation with the God thing again, but at least personally, I don't think evolution necessarily disproves God.
[02:48:51]  And I'm very curious how the right and left will handle that kind of moving forward with just the genetic battle.
[02:48:57]  We already have biohacking that's happening and a lot of the manosphere stuff.
[02:49:01]  And then the left are just doing a lot of the transhumanism stuff.
[02:49:04]  But my shout out will also relate to the question.
[02:49:07]  There is Pilgrim's Pass on YouTube.
[02:49:10]  He has just awesome videos talking about all sorts of stuff, but he has one talking about superhumans like Spartans from Halo or whatever, just the idea of a space marine.
[02:49:21]  Is it transhumanism?
[02:49:22]  Do we need it?
[02:49:23]  And he does a great breakdown.
[02:49:24]  I think it's a great thing to add to this conversation.
[02:49:27]  Crazy.
[02:49:27]  And with y'all going for that, I'll stop talking every time.
[02:49:29]  Thanks for calling in, brother.
[02:49:30]  Thank you, dude.
[02:49:32]  All right.
[02:49:33]  Next up, we've got, if it loads, Quantum Rift.
[02:49:37]  Cool.
[02:49:38]  What's going on, brother?
[02:49:41]  What's up?
[02:49:43]  Long time listener, first time caller.
[02:49:45]  Thanks for taking my question.
[02:49:46]  Thanks for calling in.
[02:49:47]  Wow.
[02:49:49]  So I'm of the mind that we don't have actual alien abductions and that that was the government.
[02:49:57]  If you look into a lot of this stuff, you see that MKUltra and UFO abductions happen in a lot of the same places.
[02:50:06]  Now there's a lot more to this, like envision a man in scrubs with goggles on.
[02:50:13]  Now you've been secretly dealt with LSD.
[02:50:16]  You have the gray alien.
[02:50:18]  So I'm very much of the mind that these UFO declassifications are more like an op and taking away the missing MK stuff is just covering up what's been done by the U.S. government as well as possibly linking to other projects.
[02:50:38]  What say the panel on this?
[02:50:40]  You're referencing that the CIA went into DNI's office and took all those files?
[02:50:46]  Well, I'm referencing how there's a lot of missing files, and I would speculate that some of that stuff is going to link to some of this alien abduction stuff.
[02:50:58]  I don't think we have UFO visitors.
[02:51:01]  I don't think we have abductees.
[02:51:04]  I think those abductees were abducted by the government.
[02:51:06]  A common experiment.
[02:51:07]  That's a good theory.
[02:51:09]  It makes more sense, but a lot of people have.
[02:51:12]  It's one of the common ones that they do experiments on humans, and they need a way to get away with it, so they make them sound crazy.
[02:51:17]  What's Stephen Greer's position?
[02:51:18]  He just did that press conference.
[02:51:19]  What's the rule?
[02:51:21]  There's a rule that basically says, don't, don't, uh, yeah, Tim, you may know this.
[02:51:25]  Don't, don't ascribe like complex, don't ascribe like complex planning to something simple and stupid.
[02:51:32]  Oh, that's, wait, wait.
[02:51:33]  Well, there's two different ones.
[02:51:34]  Occam's razor is the solution that makes the least amount of assumptions tends to be correct.
[02:51:39]  And Hanlon's razor is don't attribute malice what could be attributed to incompetence.
[02:51:44]  You're thinking of Occam's razor, or maybe you're thinking of the other one?
[02:51:47]  Hanlon's razor.
[02:51:48]  Yeah, I'm just saying that the most complex theory I don't usually buy is Jones' razor.
[02:51:54]  Yeah, Jones' razor.
[02:51:55]  Jones' razor is if it has been espoused by Alex Jones, it tends to be correct.
[02:52:00]  That's hilarious.
[02:52:01]  As it pertains to conspiracy theories, if Alex Jones has asserted it, it likely is correct.
[02:52:06]  I'm very much like the simplest solution is most likely.
[02:52:10]  And I was an agnostic for 25, 6, 7 years.
[02:52:14]  And then I started communicating with God.
[02:52:17]  And I'm like, oh, geez, there's so much more going on than.
[02:52:20]  What I know.
[02:52:21]  And so I stopped being like, no, if I can't see it, it's not, you got to prove it.
[02:52:25]  Like, I'm open.
[02:52:26]  Right now, there's like some demon sitting on his couch, and some other demon is watching the show, and he goes, hey, did you hear this?
[02:52:32]  Ian says he talks to God.
[02:52:33]  And he goes, That was me, dude.
[02:52:35]  That was me.
[02:52:36]  Yeah.
[02:52:36]  That was me.
[02:52:37]  Do you think all communication with God is actually not God?
[02:52:41]  Can God even communicate?
[02:52:42]  Can God even communicate?
[02:52:43]  Because if God is the vortex, there's a lot of vibration coming out of those black holes.
[02:52:49]  So I imagine that's like we were talking about cymatics earlier, like the breath of God and the word of God and things like that.
[02:52:54]  For the first few years when I was working in ministry, I worked in a prayer center.
[02:52:57]  So I just prayed for people full time.
[02:52:59]  That was my job.
[02:53:00]  I prayed for probably 100,000 people one on one in that time when I was working.
[02:53:04]  You got some mileage.
[02:53:05]  Yeah.
[02:53:05]  And in that time, I started getting calls from people.
[02:53:08]  Who had abduction experiences.
[02:53:10]  And it sounded so wild.
[02:53:12]  And we're not talking about just being taken and having an experience.
[02:53:14]  We're talking about levitation, supernatural experiences.
[02:53:17]  And I thought they were just loopy until I started getting more calls from other countries, other cultures, and all of them overlapped perfectly.
[02:53:25]  They all told the exact same story.
[02:53:28]  So I think it's certainly possible that a lot of it could be government, but I believe that some of it is certainly supernatural in nature.
[02:53:34]  Ian, do you ever hear the comedian say that his father was an atheist and his mom was an agnostic and they couldn't?
[02:53:41]  Agree on what religion not to raise the children in?
[02:53:43]  Oh, that's a good one.
[02:53:48]  I don't mind agnostics when what they literally mean is I'm not sure.
[02:53:52]  That's fine.
[02:53:53]  But I think atheism is too absolute.
[02:53:57]  You have to have a lot of faith to be an atheist.
[02:53:59]  Yeah.
[02:53:59]  Yeah.
[02:54:00]  Because it's asserting a lot.
[02:54:01]  It's a knowledge claim.
[02:54:03]  Yeah.
[02:54:03]  I've met a lot of people who say, no, atheist means I just don't think there's a God.
[02:54:06]  And I'm like, but again, if you're saying I'm not sure and I don't know, that's fine.
[02:54:10]  But to say, There isn't one, is an assertion that I find to be on par with saying there is or isn't.
[02:54:16]  The difference is there's a school of thought and theology around religions that have made arguments.
[02:54:21]  Atheism is just lack of theology.
[02:54:23]  You mentioned levitation.
[02:54:24]  I think that's a real phenomenon.
[02:54:26]  Like, I've noticed walking up the steps, you can push yourself up the steps or you can lift yourself up the steps with some sort of levitation.
[02:54:34]  Like, there's hydrogen in your body that's lighter than the air around you, there's magnetism that's flowing through you.
[02:54:40]  So, that can pull, you know, you can tap into that.
[02:54:43]  And lift yourself as opposed to push yourself.
[02:54:46]  And I wonder if other technologies have allowed you to tap into something a little more extreme, huh?
[02:54:50]  Where you can actually acoustic levitation, things like that.

=== The Problem of Choice (03:08) ===

[02:54:53]  Interesting.
[02:54:54]  Wow.
[02:54:55]  If they put them in some like this lamp.
[02:54:58]  Yeah.
[02:54:58]  Very much like the lamp, actually.
[02:55:00]  Kind of.
[02:55:02]  Yeah.
[02:55:02]  Yeah.
[02:55:04]  Did that answer the question, man?
[02:55:06]  Did we get deep enough for you?
[02:55:08]  Did you have a follow up?
[02:55:10]  You got close on it.
[02:55:12]  Like I said, with the.
[02:55:15]  That you get your gray alien because people are dust with LSD, which would also explain a lot of the other phenomenon with it.
[02:55:23]  That's what MKUltra was doing that with Manson.
[02:55:26]  You know, I want to shout a thing out.
[02:55:28]  MKUltra was dosing people with LSD.
[02:55:32]  Oh, yeah.
[02:55:33]  My theory is what they started with Manson, they've now done to a generation that they have just dosed them with drugs and flashed them with images they weren't able to process.
[02:55:41]  And now they're able to be triggered at a moment's notice.
[02:55:44]  We have an MKUltra Manchurian generation now.
[02:55:48]  And I wonder if it's to eliminate population because the AI is coming and they don't need them.
[02:55:52]  Or to make them like compliant.
[02:55:53]  Culling.
[02:55:54]  The masks on the people, make them all like robots.
[02:55:55]  Well, they talked about there was a study in, forgive me, I can't remember if it was Japan or Korea, but I want to say it was Japan.
[02:56:04]  And they were asking these young men why they're not seeking to get married or going out with women.
[02:56:09]  And because they were getting all their experiences digitally, they actually said that they found the idea of sex.
[02:56:18]  Physical sex to be disgusting, to be.
[02:56:22]  Goes into what you're talking about.
[02:56:23]  Did you hear the story of Keanu Reeves when he was having a dinner party and he was talking to a 16 year old about the Matrix and explaining to them we were in this fake world and we're trying to break free?
[02:56:33]  And he was shocked when the 16 year old said, Well, why would you want to break free?
[02:56:35]  Yeah.
[02:56:36]  Why would it matter if it feels real, if it appears to be real?
[02:56:39]  Why do you.
[02:56:39]  But I got to be honest, that's a legitimate question for a post apocalyptic reality where there's no food.
[02:56:45]  So at the bare minimum, what I never understood is Cypher when he's like, I just want to be back in.
[02:56:50]  I know it's not real, but so good.
[02:56:52]  But you could just end the ship.
[02:56:55]  You could plug your brain into your internal matrix and just have a nice dinner to satisfy yourself.
[02:57:00]  It would be infinitely better to be outside the matrix because, in fucking Zion, the last city, it's funny, it was called Zion, right?
[02:57:12]  You would just be like, well, life sucks living underground, but I'm going to go skateboard.
[02:57:18]  And then you'd be literally anywhere you want.
[02:57:20]  In the matrix, you're confined, constrained, and you struggle.
[02:57:23]  Outside, you have reprieve by going into any fake world that they could program for you.
[02:57:27]  And they did.
[02:57:28]  So it made no sense that he was like, I want to go back inside the matrix.
[02:57:30]  The problem is choice, as it was said in the movie.
[02:57:33]  The problem is choice.
[02:57:35]  Yeah, but I guess he was just like, I want to be someone important, like an actor.
[02:57:39]  So he was saying, just give me an easy life, and I don't want to deal with being outside the matrix.
[02:57:44]  He said, I don't want to remember anything either, which was always weird to me.
[02:57:46]  I don't want to remember anything.
[02:57:47]  But I want to remember nothing.
[02:57:48]  Nothing.
[02:57:48]  How can you value it if you don't remember?
[02:57:50]  That was your postal worker scenario.
[02:57:51]  Right.
[02:57:52]  Yep.
[02:57:52]  That's what you were talking about.
[02:57:53]  Like if I were to give you a $20,000, million dollar vacation, whatever you wanted to do, however long you wanted to be there, the only caveat is you won't remember it.
[02:58:00]  What's the point?

=== Inside the Matrix (08:21) ===

[02:58:01]  Would you take it?
[02:58:01]  Yeah.
[02:58:02]  No, but he was saying he didn't want to remember us anything outside the dream.
[02:58:04]  I really don't like not remembering.
[02:58:05]  That's why I stopped drinking alcohol for the most part.
[02:58:07]  The blacking out was just what a waste.
[02:58:08]  I stopped going to Ibiza.
[02:58:12]  You know, that.
[02:58:13]  Is it the song?
[02:58:14]  You're like, shit, it's crazy.
[02:58:15]  You want to throw anything in there or shout anything out?
[02:58:20]  Well, not really.
[02:58:22]  I'm not going to take up any more of your time.
[02:58:23]  Just, Ian, you should read the book, The Quantum and the Lotus.
[02:58:28]  It's the discussions of an astrophysicist with a Buddhist monk.
[02:58:32]  I think you're really going to get into it.
[02:58:33]  What's called The Quantum and the Lotus?
[02:58:36]  The quantum and the lotus.
[02:58:38]  Thanks.
[02:58:39]  I'm remembering another one.
[02:58:40]  Right on, brother.
[02:58:40]  The physics of humanity, which is really.
[02:58:43]  Yep.
[02:58:45]  All right.
[02:58:46]  And last but not least, we got Anders J. You are on the show, brother.
[02:58:51]  What's up, Anders?
[02:58:51]  Hey, Jam.
[02:58:52]  Hey, crew.
[02:58:53]  Hi.
[02:58:55]  So I guess my question is for Alan.
[02:58:58]  And before I get right into my question, I just want to give a little bit of background about where my question is coming from.
[02:59:05]  Mike Winger is a popular evangelical Bible teacher and apologist.
[02:59:10]  On YouTube with the channel Bible Thinker.
[02:59:14]  And he's known for a careful verse by verse teaching and promoting biblical discernment.
[02:59:19]  And in his recent video, which is titled The Secret Alien Meeting of 2026, Winger shows the initial claims of government officials briefing pastors on imminent reptilian disclosures and faith crisis turned out to be an informal Airbnb gathering with non official sources months earlier.
[02:59:40]  So, my question is why the hype?
[02:59:45]  That caused viral embarrassment for the church.
[02:59:49]  And how do you, Alan, respond to Winger's calls for more pastoral sobriety, discernment, and scripture first leadership?
[02:59:59]  You know, at first I thought Winger was just a bully chasing clicks and views.
[03:00:02]  And then I realized he's super sincere and he thinks he's doing a good work.
[03:00:06]  So I just decided I'm going to love Mike Winger.
[03:00:10]  But we've been talking about this since the meeting, and it hasn't caused viral embarrassment because people outside of the church are fascinated in this subject.
[03:00:17]  They're fascinated in aliens, they're fascinated in UAPs, UFOs.
[03:00:20]  They want to hear about it.
[03:00:21]  So, we're able to lead that conversation.
[03:00:24]  And I actually spoke with Winger.
[03:00:25]  And it was just like we weren't able, he wasn't hearing what I was saying.
[03:00:27]  We weren't able to really communicate.
[03:00:29]  If you've ever had a conversation with somebody where they're just not, you're speaking the same language, but it's just not getting across.
[03:00:35]  Yeah, I think I sometimes.
[03:00:38]  Never happened to me before.
[03:00:40]  I like Winger.
[03:00:41]  Be nice to Winger.
[03:00:42]  We disagree on this issue.
[03:00:44]  But all of the guys who were in that meeting, what we said coming out of the meeting has happened.
[03:00:49]  What we were told was going to happen has happened.
[03:00:50]  And I think there's more to come.
[03:00:53]  There have been follow up meetings, and so we will be.
[03:00:55]  And I want to stress this too.
[03:00:57]  It wasn't you guys who hyped it up.
[03:00:59]  The story kicked off with one statement.
[03:01:03]  It wasn't like a bunch of these pastors at the meeting started blasting on social media.
[03:01:06]  Guys, guys, this meeting happened.
[03:01:08]  Was Winger one of the pastors?
[03:01:09]  No, no, no.
[03:01:10]  No.
[03:01:10]  He's just looking at.
[03:01:11]  Because we're trying to be ambiguous about who led the meeting, and there were multiple meetings, people kind of get confused.
[03:01:17]  Well, you said this, and this person said this, and this.
[03:01:19]  Well, there's multiple meetings.
[03:01:20]  We're trying to protect the identity of these guys.
[03:01:22]  So we're.
[03:01:23]  I think soon in the coming months, one of the gentlemen will come forward.
[03:01:27]  And you'll be able to see how legitimate this individual is.
[03:01:30]  Can I pitch you on an idea, Pastor?
[03:01:32]  Maybe you'll go for it.
[03:01:32]  Tell him to come on this show.
[03:01:34]  Maybe you could make a show about this whole thing.
[03:01:38]  You can call it the X Files.
[03:01:39]  That's not a bad idea.
[03:01:40]  It's catchy.
[03:01:41]  I think it could work.
[03:01:42]  I think it could work.
[03:01:43]  You might get sued.
[03:01:44]  Yeah.
[03:01:44]  You know?
[03:01:45]  Oh, well.
[03:01:46]  Maybe the Z Files.
[03:01:48]  Because the Y Files has already taken it.
[03:01:49]  The W Files for Winger.
[03:01:51]  I hope that answered the question.
[03:01:55]  W X Y Z.
[03:01:58]  Well, definitely address the question.
[03:02:01]  Oh, sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt.
[03:02:02]  Or, no, did you have a follow up?
[03:02:03]  Yeah, keep going.
[03:02:04]  Well, I just feel pressed to close out with 1 Thessalonians 5 21, which says, Prove all things, hold fast that which is good.
[03:02:16]  And all I'm trying to do is remind the pastor that it is the body of Christ's job to hold the clergy to a higher standard.
[03:02:27]  So that's where I'm coming from tonight.
[03:02:29]  Yeah, the whole purpose of the meeting was to come out of it and just tell the church we need to know what the Bible says about these issues and make sure we're pointing people to Jesus.
[03:02:37]  That when all this stuff breaks out, listen, the only thing that's true, the only thing that is truth, is the Word of God and Jesus Christ.
[03:02:43]  So that's what we're trying to be faithful to do.
[03:02:48]  All right.
[03:02:49]  Thank you, guys.
[03:02:50]  You want to shout out your time?
[03:02:51]  Yeah, man.
[03:02:52]  Thank you, man.
[03:02:52]  Yeah, give us a shout out before you run.
[03:02:54]  Just our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.
[03:02:57]  Yo, that guy was legit.
[03:03:00]  Thanks for calling in, man.
[03:03:01]  Thank you, guys.
[03:03:02]  Anytime.
[03:03:04]  It's been great to have you both.
[03:03:06]  Alan, Matt, thanks for coming.
[03:03:07]  Such a pleasure, man.
[03:03:07]  Thank you.
[03:03:08]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[03:03:08]  We should do it again.
[03:03:10]  We can do a longer culture war show specifically on these issues and with any other guys in your sphere who want to talk about it.
[03:03:18]  That'd be great.
[03:03:18]  I would love that.
[03:03:19]  We were actually planning on doing it tomorrow morning, but I guess Lisa said she couldn't get the other guys to come down.
[03:03:24]  It was too short a note or something.
[03:03:26]  But sometimes we do, actually, we should do a live event with this because we can incorporate religion and faith in a bigger conversation.
[03:03:34]  And also, Tim, the stuff you've been talking about with AI, I'm sure other people have talked about it.
[03:03:40]  I haven't heard anybody else talk about it quite like you do.
[03:03:43]  And I think there's a lot of appetite for you have a unique gift of explaining the big picture in a way that people can understand.
[03:03:51]  So I'm sure Sam Altman has talked about this, just that nobody understands the hell he's talking about.
[03:03:57]  But you're able to break it down.
[03:03:59]  You're the first person that can break it down where I go, okay, okay, I get this.
[03:04:03]  So Brett Weinstein sent me this masterclass.
[03:04:06]  Brett texted me this.
[03:04:07]  Crazy article.
[03:04:08]  He's like, This just got published.
[03:04:10]  MRNA vaccines are killing healthy cells.
[03:04:13]  And he sends me this tweet, and it's this guy, and it's this really long tweet.
[03:04:17]  And he's like, This is confirmed breaking.
[03:04:19]  It's what we knew all along.
[03:04:20]  And then he goes into trying to explain something very simple in a way that no one could comprehend.
[03:04:27]  It's very simple.
[03:04:29]  The mRNA vaccine causes healthy cells to produce bad proteins.
[03:04:35]  So your immune system attacks healthy cells.
[03:04:38]  That's it.
[03:04:39]  It's now confirmed, documented.
[03:04:41]  That's what happened with COVID.
[03:04:42]  But he wrote this like 1,000 word long tweet that you couldn't understand.
[03:04:49]  I was like, I told Brett, I was like, hey, you need to.
[03:04:51]  Simplify this so that a regular person can understand what he's saying.
[03:04:53]  That's explaining why some people got the vaccine and had like heart attacks and what Brett was explaining.
[03:04:59]  Brett's point was he explained this phenomenon.
[03:05:02]  And then an actual peer reviewed journal published the findings shortly after that literally says what happens is what they thought would happen is if you got shot in the arm with the mRNA vaccine, cells in your arm and muscle would produce spike protein.
[03:05:17]  The white blood cells would destroy those cells and then, no, look out for anything producing spike protein.
[03:05:23]  Unfortunately, the mRNA moved around the body.
[03:05:26]  If it went to the heart, white blood cells would destroy heart cells, putting holes in your heart.
[03:05:30]  Good gracious.
[03:05:31]  Yeah.
[03:05:32]  And so now there's an actual peer reviewed study on it.
[03:05:34]  The issue was that the Twitter post that he sent me, I'm like, this is overly verbose and hard to understand.
[03:05:40]  But we do got to get, we're going to get out of here.
[03:05:41]  We're back tomorrow morning.
[03:05:44]  I'm not going to be here tomorrow night, though.
[03:05:45]  I'm going to be speaking at an event.
[03:05:47]  I probably shouldn't say where just yet for security reasons, but I'm going to be traveling to speak at an event which we will film and will be putting up on Sunday.
[03:05:56]  So, it's going to be a great little special.
[03:05:59]  It'll be fun.
[03:06:00]  And then this is big.
[03:06:02]  I probably shouldn't say this either.
[03:06:03]  I'm going to say it anyway.
[03:06:04]  We're going to be at the Enhanced Games next week.
[03:06:07]  Oh, that sounds awesome.
[03:06:08]  Yeah.
[03:06:08]  I don't know if I'm going to go, but I'm going to go meet a bunch of athletes hepped up on PEDs.
[03:06:13]  I wonder if they're going to smoke pot.
[03:06:17]  If it helps.
[03:06:17]  It's like you're meeting every New York Kings team ever.
[03:06:20]  That's right.
[03:06:20]  All right, everybody.
[03:06:21]  Thanks for hanging out.
[03:06:22]  We'll be back tomorrow.
[03:06:22]  We'll see y'all then.