Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Alex Jones' Infowars Is FORMALLY OVER, Website Goes DARK w/ Tyler O'Neil | Timcast IRL
Aired: 2026-05-01
Duration: 02:04:02


=== InfoWars Lawsuit Drama (15:15) ===

[00:01:17]  It is the end of an era.
[00:01:19]  InfoWars has officially gone dark, but Alex Jones has already launched his new outlet.
[00:01:26]  And while this is a historical moment, we've long been, I don't want to say waiting for, but we're sitting here watching as this lawsuit plays out where they destroy InfoWars and take down Alex Jones' company, and it just keeps getting postponed.
[00:01:38]  It's been several years.
[00:01:40]  Well, the funny thing is, Alex Jones actually got another stay, stopping Tim Heidegger and The Onion from taking over InfoWars as he launches his new company.
[00:01:49]  And on this front, I thought, We should talk about the ongoing censorship, the expansion of wokeness.
[00:01:54]  There's a lot happening.
[00:01:55]  We got more news, of course.
[00:01:56]  Candace Owens has been formally sued by Brian Harpole.
[00:02:00]  And the court documents are pretty damning.
[00:02:04]  I mean, they lay it out.
[00:02:05]  Now, Candace's fans like to play this game where they say, Candace never said that.
[00:02:10]  Well, you see, the way defamation law works is the judges are not stupid.
[00:02:15]  They're not going to be like, Did you explicitly state A plus B equals C?
[00:02:19]  They say, Was there an implication?
[00:02:22]  An expectation your audience would come to believe certain facts.
[00:02:26]  And I think the court documents lay this out slam dunk.
[00:02:30]  So this will get particularly interesting.
[00:02:31]  We'll talk about that.
[00:02:33]  And then, my friends, of course, today, Animal Farm, the film has finally come out.
[00:02:38]  And my favorite, my favorite thing about this is the exposing of the grifters.
[00:02:44]  And I say this, and I'm trying to be nice, because I think Riley Gaines is very nice.
[00:02:51]  Actors, Laverne Cox, a trans person, explicitly condemns Riley Gaines' worldview, attacks her activism specifically, and Riley Gaines took money to promote it.
[00:03:05]  I love, I love how the whole thing just gets exposed.
[00:03:09]  How people will take money, they'll claim they support something and they have no idea what they're talking about.
[00:03:15]  And I am very, very heated by this, you can tell.
[00:03:18]  So I have a lot to say.
[00:03:19]  I've been tweeting nonstop about it, and people are like, Tim, we get it, shut up.
[00:03:22]  Yeah, well, you know what?
[00:03:23]  I care.
[00:03:23]  I want to talk about that before we do.
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[00:04:49]  Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more, we've got Tyler O'Neill.
[00:04:54]  Hey, glad to be here.
[00:04:55]  Who are you?
[00:04:55]  What do you do?
[00:04:56]  Oh, I'm just another guy.
[00:04:58]  I wrote the book about the Southern Poverty Law Center.
[00:05:01]  You might have heard of them.
[00:05:02]  They just got a federal indictment.
[00:05:03]  I'm actually reading right now on my laptop the latest motion in the case.
[00:05:08]  It's a very spicy one where the federal government is accusing the SPLC of taking money from donors, claiming that it's fighting hate, and then taking that money and sending it to members of the KKK and increasing hate.
[00:05:22]  So, and yeah, what we're also finding is that they're one of their informants has turned informant for the DOJ specifically.
[00:05:28]  So, as these liberals are saying, no, no, they were just informants trying to stop crime, no, the indictment is largely predicated upon the fact that one of these guys actually went to them and said, hey, actually, this is what they were really doing for which they've been charged.
[00:05:39]  So, that'll be interesting.
[00:05:40]  We'll talk about that.
[00:05:41]  We do have.
[00:05:43]  Another guest.
[00:05:44]  Hi, guys.
[00:05:45]  My name is Olivia Dasovic.
[00:05:47]  I work here at Timcast.
[00:05:48]  I'm the one that manages the Discord.
[00:05:50]  You guys should join.
[00:05:51]  I actually met one of my bridesmaids there, and she got married to someone that's in the Discord.
[00:05:55]  Wow.
[00:05:55]  So, the couple you always reference is actually my bridesmaid and now her husband.
[00:05:59]  There you go.
[00:06:00]  You see, like, you join Timcast thinking you're going to hang out, and then all of a sudden you're married and you have kids and you're traveling and you're going to weddings.
[00:06:06]  You never know what's going to happen.
[00:06:07]  You guys should join.
[00:06:08]  Indeed.
[00:06:09]  Rest of the crew is here, of course.
[00:06:10]  Ian?
[00:06:11]  Happy to be here.
[00:06:11]  Single as always.
[00:06:12]  47 years old.
[00:06:14]  Maybe you should get in the Discord more often.
[00:06:17]  Tate Brown.
[00:06:18]  Yeah, well, that's got to be great news for all these single women all across America that Ian is still in the market.
[00:06:22]  I think we're going to.
[00:06:23]  I felt the vibe shift of all the women.
[00:06:24]  Man, I was thinking the same thing, dude.
[00:06:26]  Like, you got a lot going for you.
[00:06:28]  I think you're a catch and something's going to happen for you real soon.
[00:06:31]  Let's get into it.
[00:06:32]  Let's get into it, ladies and gentlemen.
[00:06:34]  No insider knowledge there.
[00:06:35]  Don't bet on the algae.
[00:06:37]  You never know what's coming.
[00:06:38]  Here we go from Infowars.com off air.
[00:06:42]  That's it.
[00:06:43]  Now, I will say this I know for most people, I really don't think this subject matter is going to resonate for the average person.
[00:06:51]  They see a subject, they see a video online.
[00:06:54]  Are they going to click it?
[00:06:55]  I got to be honest with you.
[00:06:55]  I think there are much more salacious bits to lead with, but this is historic.
[00:06:59]  This matters.
[00:07:00]  Infowars was 27 years old, thus officially joining the 27 Club.
[00:07:05]  It has been ended due to the ongoing elite conflict, civil war, whatever you want to call it.
[00:07:12]  I would argue that everything we've seen to shut down Infowars has been pure politics.
[00:07:17]  Now, don't get me wrong, I think Alex Jones has said things that.
[00:07:22]  He probably shouldn't say, right?
[00:07:24]  But to destroy a company, fire all of its people, seize its assets, all of that is absolutely insane over a single defamation case.
[00:07:32]  Now, here's where it gets funny.
[00:07:34]  As I've long told you guys, you can't get rid of a person.
[00:07:38]  There's no lawsuit to stop a guy from speaking.
[00:07:42]  It just, I mean, you can sue somebody, you can sue their company, they can just keep coming back.
[00:07:46]  And the truth is, you get rid of Alex Jones, he can just stand outside as someone else films on their phone live and Alex can talk.
[00:07:54]  And you can't stop it from happening.
[00:07:56]  So, of course, AlexJonesLive.com is the new site using his own name.
[00:08:01]  And you know why he did this?
[00:08:02]  You can't take his name from him.
[00:08:04]  You can sue him for defamation.
[00:08:06]  InfoWars is a brand they seized as an asset, or they're trying to, it's been held.
[00:08:10]  But by going with Alex Jones Live, he's saying, that's my name.
[00:08:13]  You can't use it.
[00:08:14]  You can't take it from him as an asset.
[00:08:16]  Now, the big news in this case is that The Onion was trying to take over InfoWars.
[00:08:20]  The whole story is insane.
[00:08:22]  In my opinion, there's something going on in the back room.
[00:08:26]  Because how the Onion mustered up the revenue.
[00:08:29]  So if we go back in time, the general story is that the Onion didn't have the money to win the bid for InfoWars, but the family said something like, We'll forgive a part of the debt if they buy it, which you can't do because there's money that's been paid out from the suit, and they didn't have the money.
[00:08:45]  So somehow they're still getting it.
[00:08:47]  Well, Alex Jones actually stopped it.
[00:08:49]  And Tim Heidecker is really pissed off about it.
[00:08:53]  And it's all so cringe.
[00:08:55]  Tim Heidecker, you're so cringe.
[00:08:57]  Let me play this clip for you guys.
[00:08:59]  Freaking out, here it is.
[00:08:59]  Now, we received a.
[00:09:03]  This motherfucker, Alex Jones, somehow worked his way into the Texas Third Court of Appeals.
[00:09:13]  These rats preventing, but postponing the transfer of the site until another judgment can come in or something.
[00:09:22]  This was on track to happen.
[00:09:23]  Temporarily, I'll say it's been temporarily derailed.
[00:09:27]  We're committed to moving forward.
[00:09:28]  We're already talking about what that looks like.
[00:09:30]  The short answer is.
[00:09:32]  Infowars will be ours.
[00:09:35]  There's nothing you can't stop this movement.
[00:09:37]  People's accounts can land them.
[00:09:38]  Anyway, Alex goes on to make fun of Tim Heidegger's comedy, which I think is kind of dumb.
[00:09:42]  But, bro, you're fighting this hard over a domain name.
[00:09:46]  It's like the cringest thing ever.
[00:09:48]  I don't watch Alex.
[00:09:50]  When I watch Alex, when I see his stuff, I see him talk.
[00:09:52]  I don't look for the website name.
[00:09:54]  I don't care about the branding.
[00:09:55]  I want to hear his voice and listen to what he has to say.
[00:09:58]  That's it.
[00:09:59]  I always thought Infowars was a cringe name anyway.
[00:10:01]  Like, what is he trying to create a war?
[00:10:02]  No.
[00:10:03]  I mean, like, he did his expose and now he's.
[00:10:06]  Like full, like now he's full Seon, super Seon God Jones man now with his own brand.
[00:10:13]  I like it.
[00:10:14]  Yeah, the whole onion thing is very cringe.
[00:10:15]  I mean, it's like 10 year old humor, like 10 years old humor as far as like this would have been maybe sort of funny in 2015, but like it's just cringe now.
[00:10:24]  Tim Heidecker is just obviously way behind the times.
[00:10:27]  I mean, you hear, I heard his name involved in this whole story and I was like, oh yeah, whatever happened to that guy?
[00:10:31]  Like that was my analysis of the whole situation.
[00:10:36]  And Alex Jones, I mean, fair play, he jumps right.
[00:10:37]  You know, jumps right back on the saddle here because, I mean, as far as I understand, the parent company's assets are all in control now of the trust behind the Sandy Hook lawsuit.
[00:10:47]  So, I mean, he's got to restart.
[00:10:48]  I mean, he's got to get a new studio.
[00:10:50]  Like, every pencil on that studio now is in the control of this trust.
[00:10:54]  So, fair play to Alex.
[00:10:56]  I mean, what you can't kill a bull moose.
[00:10:58]  I think that would be a very applicable phrase to use in this instance.
[00:11:01]  I mean, I know there's been a lot of tension right now between MAGA and Alex Jones, but I think everyone has a soft form.
[00:11:06]  I don't understand why the Trump administration hasn't helped.
[00:11:09]  Alex Jones, in any way, I don't get it.
[00:11:11]  Well, I mean, to be fair to the administration, I mean, he was calling for him to be impeached in 25th and 25th.
[00:11:15]  Well, that's after the fact.
[00:11:16]  I'm saying that never would have happened if the DOJ actually intervened on a civil rights basis and said, we're going to review this case.
[00:11:24]  The story is, according to Alex, when he was sued for defamation, they never actually had a trial over it.
[00:11:30]  The court ordered he turn over a bunch of documents, and he claimed he did.
[00:11:34]  They claimed he didn't.
[00:11:35]  So he was held in default, meaning there was never a trial over whether he actually defamed anybody.
[00:11:42]  The trial everyone watched was the damages hearing to determine how much you had to pay.
[00:11:47]  So Alex never actually had a trial over defamation.
[00:11:50]  The DOJ could have been like, no, no, no, no, hold on.
[00:11:52]  Whoa, We're going to, we're going to, you know, put a stop to this and come in.
[00:11:56]  They didn't.
[00:11:57]  And I think, you know, I don't know what happened behind the scenes.
[00:12:00]  Maybe they're just like, we don't want to be involved in whatever Alex is doing.
[00:12:03]  But if the right doesn't even try to protect institutions that are in favor of it, then what do they have?
[00:12:09]  No, I mean, I definitely think there's a point there.
[00:12:10]  I mean, insofar as any intervention would come from the DOJ, I think he basically sealed that, you know, that.
[00:12:16]  You know, possibility by going after the Trump admin.
[00:12:19]  I just think from like a pure calculus, you know, if you're trying to sort of keep your company, that just seems like a bad move.
[00:12:25]  But look, what are you going to do?
[00:12:27]  Alex Jones, he's a renegade.
[00:12:28]  I mean, this is his brand.
[00:12:29]  So he's ultimately going to do what he perceives to be best for, you know, conveying the truth and that sort of thing.
[00:12:36]  So I mean, I don't know.
[00:12:38]  I think, again, if he was anticipating, maybe if someone from the DOJ was sort of indicating that they were going to intervene, maybe he would have held his tongue.
[00:12:44]  I don't know.
[00:12:45]  So I think that indicates that the DOJ never had the intention of.
[00:12:48]  In this instance.
[00:12:49]  But yeah, basically guaranteed that it's not going to happen after you literally say, oh, he should be 25th Amendment.
[00:12:55]  And I think personally, that was a bit crazy.
[00:12:57]  When did he say that?
[00:12:58]  It was that same gentleman that was just in that clip there on the show, and they were talking about Iran.
[00:13:03]  They're like, you know, Trump is effectively a crazy person now, and he needs to be 25th Amendmented.
[00:13:07]  Like, his mental faculties are declining, and these sorts of things.
[00:13:10]  Yeah, this would have been like, I don't know, a month.
[00:13:13]  It was actually, I bet Trump had already concocted that truth social post, and then he saw that clip and then threw that in there, Alex Jones in there with it.
[00:13:20]  Cause that was, I mean, it seemed like maybe it was a one off thing, but that's just aiding the left effectively by parroting that language.
[00:13:28]  I really, I kind of agree with the government.
[00:13:30]  Somebody like legally stepping in on this because it felt very much like a dog and pony show, like a circus court thing, like where they brought him in front of a judge.
[00:13:40]  Tim, you already mentioned it.
[00:13:41]  Dude didn't even have a trial because they said he didn't provide the evidence.
[00:13:45]  He said he did.
[00:13:45]  They were like, well, our word's stronger because we're the court.
[00:13:48]  We're taking you to default.
[00:13:50]  That for 1.3 trillion, how much money was it?
[00:13:53]  1.3 billion?
[00:13:54]  I don't want to get the number.
[00:13:54]  Billion.
[00:13:55]  They just say like the economy of France or whatever that is.
[00:13:57]  A guy said some bad words on TV and they took 1.3 billion dollars from him without a trial.
[00:14:02]  Okay, we got to stop that kind of behavior.
[00:14:05]  Yeah, that's against free speech to essentially.
[00:14:08]  Well, I think the greater picture with all of this is there are, there's a deep state and a Trump deep state or whatever.
[00:14:20]  The liberal mechanism is trying to destroy the right.
[00:14:23]  Interestingly, with this SPLC stuff, which I don't know if you've been tracking, did you see that a bunch of companies are now cutting off their cooperation and coordination with SPLC?
[00:14:30]  Yeah, two more gave it to me.
[00:14:32]  Yeah.
[00:14:33]  Oh, yeah, get up on the mic.
[00:14:34]  Two more of them told me that they would also cut off.
[00:14:37]  Funds.
[00:14:37]  So you can move on.
[00:14:38]  It used to be that these companies were like, we partner with the Southern Poverty Law Center.
[00:14:43]  And that was a mechanism of the deep state, of USAID, of the uniparty machine.
[00:14:47]  Trump has crushed all that.
[00:14:48]  Now, with the indictment, these companies are backing off.
[00:14:51]  Imagine what this means.
[00:14:52]  You run a big company, a billion dollar company.
[00:14:55]  The deep state comes to you and says, you work with our guys through this company.
[00:14:59]  Trump comes to you now and says, we've destroyed them.
[00:15:01]  They've lost.
[00:15:02]  You answer to us now.
[00:15:04]  And they go, okay, we're out.
[00:15:05]  We're not involved in whatever that is.
[00:15:07]  I mean, this is.
[00:15:08]  Elite level behind the scenes stuff going on, we can't see.
[00:15:12]  And of course, going after Alex Jones was obviously in line with that.
[00:15:15]  Well, and I mean, if you talk about defamation, I've been following all the defamation cases against the SPLC.
[00:15:22]  They go to everybody, they go to the media, they go to donors, they go to the public, they go to companies, and they say, Look, this is the hate map of all the hate across America.
[00:15:34]  These are the people like the Klan that we have to stop.
[00:15:37]  And on their map with Klan chapters, they have Alliance Defending Freedom.
[00:15:42]  Family Research Council.
[00:15:43]  You know, and you can disagree with these people, but they're conservative NGOs that just exist that are trying to advocate for policy.
[00:15:51]  And now, last year, you know, they added Charlie Kirk, they added Turning Point USA to the hate map.
[00:15:57]  And just four months later, Kirk ends up with a bullet in his neck.
[00:16:01]  And I'm going, well, that certainly doesn't seem like a coincidence.
[00:16:05]  So, of course, the SPLC says, oh, we condemn violence, but they haven't taken Turning Point off the map.
[00:16:11]  There was a shooting in 2012.
[00:16:13]  Where a man showed up with a bag of Chick fil A sandwiches and a semi automatic pistol, planned to shoot everybody in the building of the Family Research Council.
[00:16:22]  He tells the FBI he got the idea from the SPLC's hate map.
[00:16:27]  That's where he found them.
[00:16:28]  And the SPLC still, they say, oh, we condemn political violence.

=== Turning Point Shooting Mystery (14:50) ===

[00:16:33]  But is FRC off that hate map?
[00:16:35]  No, of course not.
[00:16:37]  They've been on there for over a decade now.
[00:16:39]  We should make a game map.
[00:16:41]  We do need a game map.
[00:16:43]  All these organizations that we don't like, we just use a different word because they say, hey, even when it doesn't apply.
[00:16:47]  If you thought the data centers were excessive now, wait till we try to get the bandwidth for our game app.
[00:16:51]  I mean, do a loving it'll consume all of the internet's bandwidth just outright.
[00:16:58]  Outright, that's right.
[00:17:00]  I mean, the other thing is you think of maps, and I can't help but think of the video game where they were trying to, they had somebody go through and shoot up everybody at the headquarters of Americans for Prosperity video game.
[00:17:13]  And this was, yeah, it's a video game that they put out on the left.
[00:17:16]  And at the same time, the government of California was trying to get all the donors.
[00:17:22]  For Americans for Prosperity.
[00:17:25]  And this made it all the way to the Supreme Court, AFP v. Bonta.
[00:17:28]  It's like the left is out to destroy the right.
[00:17:32]  And the right just doesn't seem to.
[00:17:34]  I mean, we talk about the Alex Jones thing.
[00:17:37]  He didn't get a trial.
[00:17:38]  Right.
[00:17:39]  And if the judges had one ounce of the kind of chutzpah they had going against him, like we just had a really strong case.
[00:17:48]  Right now it's on appeal because they're always on appeal, but against the SPLC.
[00:17:53]  One judge let it go ahead.
[00:17:55]  The second judge said, No, I'm shutting down Discovery.
[00:17:58]  He had this really cockamamie scheme that said, oh, the SPLC isn't really liable for defamation here or there.
[00:18:05]  If anybody is liable for defamation in my book, it is the Southern Poverty Law Center.
[00:18:10]  You don't get worse than that.
[00:18:12]  Did you, yeah?
[00:18:13]  I mean, have you heard about this?
[00:18:15]  Trump's building a military operations center under the White House?
[00:18:19]  I hadn't, actually.
[00:18:21]  So this is interesting because, yeah, and they're still doing it with the ballroom story.
[00:18:25]  All anyone's talking about is the ballroom.
[00:18:26]  But Trump's actually reorganizing.
[00:18:28]  It's called the Presidential Operational Center or something like that.
[00:18:32]  It's been underneath the White House.
[00:18:34]  It's their emergency bunker and control center.
[00:18:35]  It's been there since World War II, but it's never been renovated.
[00:18:37]  PEOC, yeah.
[00:18:38]  PEOC, yeah.
[00:18:38]  He's expanding it.
[00:18:39]  PEOC?
[00:18:40]  P E O C.
[00:18:41]  Oh, good.
[00:18:42]  He's expanding it.
[00:18:45]  And this is part of the ballroom construction, sort of.
[00:18:48]  They stopped the ballroom stuff.
[00:18:49]  So the conspiracy theory we talked about the other day, the people believe that Trump is going to take over.
[00:18:54]  But you look at the Voting Rights Act, you take a look at this bunker stuff.
[00:18:58]  How would you feel considering all of this if Trump really did say, now that I have a bunker, I'm president for life, Congress will be one party, rule Republican, forever Democrats are gone?
[00:19:07]  Just shut them out.
[00:19:08]  No, that'd be bad.
[00:19:09]  That'd be bad.
[00:19:09]  That'd be more technocracy, more central authority.
[00:19:12]  What if he said, we are hereby banning the Democratic Party permanently because of everything they've done?
[00:19:18]  And then he lays out all the evidence of USAID, the SPLC, all these NGOs and how they were manipulating elections and stealing it.
[00:19:25]  And he says, these organizations and these people involved are blacklisted.
[00:19:29]  We will have new elections, but they will not be allowed to participate.
[00:19:33]  I would suddenly not be much of a political commentator.
[00:19:35]  I'd be like, hmm, that's interesting.
[00:19:37]  Anyway, did you go see the game last night?
[00:19:40]  Sports podcast.
[00:19:41]  Oh, yeah.
[00:19:42]  The World Cup's going to be really exciting.
[00:19:44]  Just walk slowly into the ocean in the sunset.
[00:19:46]  You're done.
[00:19:47]  Yeah, I'd be like, I don't know.
[00:19:48]  It's weird.
[00:19:48]  I lost my Twitter password.
[00:19:49]  I don't have anything to say, I guess.
[00:19:51]  I don't know.
[00:19:51]  My camera stopped working.
[00:19:52]  Funding is reasonable, but politically mandating that they can't organize would be a big bang.
[00:19:58]  They did that already.
[00:19:59]  My point is, I'm making a reference to the communism bill they passed in the 50s.
[00:20:03]  Oh, or they said communists can't do whatever.
[00:20:06]  But what if Trump came out and said, We are releasing now to the public, like the DOJ published this big list of names, evidence, and said, Here's the bank records.
[00:20:17]  They dumped like 3 million files that everybody ripped through these.
[00:20:19]  And you can see how NGOs were funding lawyers to pay off politicians, to rig elections, and they just proved it all.
[00:20:26]  And everyone just was sitting there being like, Oh, man.
[00:20:30]  Well, if they could prove it all, I mean, then.
[00:20:34]  You can go through the process.
[00:20:35]  But I mean, if you really want to be blackpilled, go check out what Woodrow Wilson did during World War I.
[00:20:43]  Oh, yeah.
[00:20:43]  When he stole everyone's gold or.
[00:20:45]  Yeah, well, when he did everything.
[00:20:47]  I mean, that war, the US government took over the economy.
[00:20:53]  I mean, it was legit socialism in the United States.
[00:20:57]  And we don't talk about it enough because Woodrow Wilson was, you know, the sainted figure.
[00:21:03]  Oh, he got us through World War I.
[00:21:05]  But if you actually look at it, it's terrible.
[00:21:07]  They were demonizing people just for being German.
[00:21:11]  And I get that Germans were on the other side of the war, but we weren't talking about Nazis.
[00:21:17]  And we had.
[00:21:18]  Very racist stuff that the government was putting out saying, if you're German, you're a Hun, you're evil.
[00:21:23]  I mean, it's.
[00:21:26]  Yeah, and he was taking away basic rights that people had.
[00:21:29]  Oh, Wilson was awful.
[00:21:31]  He's done a lot of.
[00:21:31]  I was thinking FDR, though.
[00:21:34]  FDR stole everyone's gold.
[00:21:35]  Oh.
[00:21:36]  Yeah, FDR was bad.
[00:21:37]  I mean, it's hard for us to say who the worst president is.
[00:21:41]  Woodrow Wilson, maybe.
[00:21:42]  Yes.
[00:21:42]  Woodrow Wilson is a very good contender.
[00:21:45]  Yeah.
[00:21:45]  The only other one who comes close is a guy right before, James Buchanan.
[00:21:49]  No.
[00:21:50]  Where James Buchanan.
[00:21:51]  Who not only did he take the military assets and give it to the South before the Civil War, he also was coordinating with the Supreme Court and got more votes on the Supreme Court for that decision that said black people don't have rights in this country.
[00:22:09]  Nope, there's another president.
[00:22:11]  Well, I mean, there is Joe Biden.
[00:22:13]  I mean, that guy wasn't even there, man.
[00:22:16]  The thing is, Joe Biden, it's too recent for us really to judge how.
[00:22:22]  Because everything he did under that administration was so.
[00:22:25]  And how much did he actually do?
[00:22:26]  Well, but you're right about Buchanan.
[00:22:29]  He, yeah.
[00:22:31]  So did he do that as an appeasement?
[00:22:32]  He gave military assets to the South to appease them so they didn't leave the country?
[00:22:36]  No, he did it clandestinely.
[00:22:39]  So what happened is, and I was reading Ulysses S. Grant's autobiography about this, like Ulysses S. Grant is going through bringing the army together, and he can't get the munitions that were part of the army's own munitions because.
[00:22:55]  James Buchanan had ordered people to take the munitions and move them to the South to areas where they would immediately be part of the Confederate government.
[00:23:04]  Why?
[00:23:05]  Because he wanted the South to win.
[00:23:07]  He encouraged states to secede.
[00:23:09]  There was a lot that he did wrong.
[00:23:10]  But Wilson is the worst for a myriad of reasons.
[00:23:12]  One, he played Birth of a Nation.
[00:23:14]  That was the first movie ever played in the White House, which is historically the most racist movie ever.
[00:23:18]  And he created the League of Nations.
[00:23:20]  And everyone here knows how I feel about the UN.
[00:23:22]  It was basically the UN before the UN.
[00:23:25]  He created the League of Nations, which.
[00:23:27]  All of the people in Congress said, Oh, that's a stupid idea, and actually voted to be against the very thing that Wilson helped create.
[00:23:34]  That's how much they hated it.
[00:23:36]  The United States was never in the League of Nations, but Wilson was the one who basically created it.
[00:23:42]  Well, it was like Woodrow Wilson, I mean, on women's suffrage, he was pretty good, where he, I think they asked him about it, and he's like, I don't know, do they even know how to vote?
[00:23:52]  Honestly, honestly.
[00:23:52]  Never mind.
[00:23:53]  Maybe he's not the worst.
[00:23:54]  Yeah, rare.
[00:23:56]  I mean, he was the founder of progressivism.
[00:23:57]  So, I mean, he gets.
[00:23:59]  Yeah, he eventually came back.
[00:24:00]  He came around, so to speak, on women's suffrage because he's like, I don't know, we got to win this war.
[00:24:04]  And they'll probably vote for me because I'm like, cool.
[00:24:06]  And I was like, I don't know.
[00:24:08]  What if for the primary, the Republican primary, it's just not a vote?
[00:24:12]  It's just Trump doing the apprentice, but with all of the Republican candidates.
[00:24:17]  Oh, that would be awesome.
[00:24:18]  It's kind of what it's going to be.
[00:24:19]  I think they're going to reboot the apprentice with Don Jr.
[00:24:21]  I've heard.
[00:24:22]  If they, like, okay, so they'll do an actual primary, that'd be great.
[00:24:26]  People can vote.
[00:24:27]  But it would be funny if it's.
[00:24:28]  Yeah, I like that idea.
[00:24:30]  Instead of campaigning, They all just do an apprentice with Trump?
[00:24:33]  I mean, they should for fun anyway.
[00:24:35]  I bet they'll do a skit.
[00:24:37]  I bet they'll at least do a skit with Hilaire.
[00:24:38]  I've maintained this position.
[00:24:40]  I don't think Trump's going to endorse anyone.
[00:24:41]  So, I think it will kind of be apprentice-y in the sense you're going to have like five or six national candidates getting up and making the case of why they're the most Trumpian.
[00:24:48]  That would be the endorsement, would be winning his apprenticeship.
[00:24:51]  Yeah, that's true.
[00:24:52]  He had to get his endorsement.
[00:24:53]  Well, that's why it works well because he fires people, he doesn't endorse them.
[00:24:57]  But he's not coming out behind one person, he's slowly winnowing the field.
[00:25:01]  But what if, what if, you know, everyone's gearing up for the Republican primary and then Trump's at the desk with all of the contenders and then he goes, I've thought about it, you're all fired.
[00:25:11]  And then he puts on like a general cap.
[00:25:13]  And then he throws off his suit, tears away, and he's dressed up like a general and he's like, dictator for life.
[00:25:19]  And then he presses a button, he goes underneath into his military bunker under the White House.
[00:25:22]  Let me stop him.
[00:25:23]  It's too late.
[00:25:24]  I want to say one thing on that conspiracy theory, though, where they're like, Trump's building a military base underneath the White House.
[00:25:29]  What do you think is going to happen?
[00:25:29]  He's going to go down there and lock the door and be like, I'm president still?
[00:25:32]  It's like, okay, you stay in there and be president.
[00:25:35]  I don't think he wants to be president.
[00:25:37]  I mean, this is kind of without saying, he doesn't want to be president.
[00:25:40]  Right.
[00:25:40]  He wants to be emperor.
[00:25:41]  I mean, he wants to start.
[00:25:42]  I think he's got it done.
[00:25:43]  He's illustrated his plans post presidency.
[00:25:45]  This was all the most inspirational.
[00:25:47]  Amazing quotes that he had was it was the last time he was in Scotland.
[00:25:50]  I think it was before he, um, or during his 2024 campaign, he went to Scotland and someone had asked him like what his plans are because he has a castle there and someone asked him what his plans were for it.
[00:26:00]  And he said, In my very old age, I'm going to go to this castle in Scotland.
[00:26:04]  And he said verbatim, I'm going to do the most beautiful thing anyone's ever seen.
[00:26:07]  And everyone's just sitting there like, What is that?
[00:26:10]  What is he thinking?
[00:26:11]  The most beautiful thing anyone has ever seen?
[00:26:13]  Like, what's he got planned?
[00:26:14]  He's going to be 90 and he's just sitting on a throne in Scotland.
[00:26:17]  And you're going to be like, That is the most beautiful thing.
[00:26:20]  I mean, that's like George Washington.
[00:26:22]  That's what made George Washington's presidency so beautiful is that he, you know, left after two terms and established he was the American Cincinnatus.
[00:26:30]  He gave him power.
[00:26:31]  And like, I think Trump, if he arranges things, I mean, the real problem is there's so much left for him to do right now in fighting the state.
[00:26:41]  Well, that's why we need to have somebody that's actually, even if he doesn't endorse, somebody that's worthy of taking up that battle, right?
[00:26:47]  Like somebody who can actually.
[00:26:48]  I like the kind of Emperor Palpatine vibe, or like, I don't know, say JD Vance.
[00:26:52]  Wins the primary and then he becomes president.
[00:26:53]  But then he's got to fly over to Scotland, go to this castle that's like up in the fog.
[00:26:57]  Neil.
[00:26:57]  And he like kneels before President Trump.
[00:26:59]  And you can like, it's kind of foggy.
[00:27:00]  And he's like, Mr. President, the Save Act didn't pass.
[00:27:06]  And he's like, what?
[00:27:08]  I tried.
[00:27:08]  Stand up.
[00:27:10]  So you think he won't endorse Vance?
[00:27:12]  I just keep thinking they'll do it plaintively, like no doubt.
[00:27:15]  I mean, unless it's just like a bunch of just random people in Vance.
[00:27:17]  But you know, it's going to be the same.
[00:27:19]  You know, you're going to maybe see Cruz run or DeSantis or maybe even Rubio.
[00:27:22]  I mean, Trump does, he wants them to kind of commit.
[00:27:24]  And in a way, that would bring the best out of Vance, letting him compete against Marco Rubio, for instance.
[00:27:29]  You know, two guys are together really well.
[00:27:31]  White House UFC, ritual trial by combat, men only.
[00:27:36]  Oh, I agree.
[00:27:37]  I think that could be one direction.
[00:27:38]  Vance is in the toughest spot out of everybody right now because he's having to, he's trying to, he's trying to take a very narrow line right now, which is I am kind of the Anglicanism of politics in MAGA right now, where he's like, I'm both the best parts of MAGA and the best parts of like kind of the broader populist movement.
[00:27:55]  So he's kind of like trying to keep everyone happy right now.
[00:27:58]  And it's just getting more and more difficult for him to do that.
[00:28:00]  We did see Tucker's son leave his office.
[00:28:03]  Granted, he already said he was going to do that in December anyway, so this had really nothing to do with the recent blowup.
[00:28:08]  But it is interesting that JD Vance is kind of trying to keep this coalition back together.
[00:28:11]  You saw him at TPUSA where he's like, oh, I think the Theo Vaughn podcast is great, actually.
[00:28:16]  But at the same time, he's the vice president for President Trump.
[00:28:18]  So he's just, he's trying to take, I think he's in the toughest spot in all of politics, actually.
[00:28:23]  Let's jump into this next story, talking about the coalition.
[00:28:24]  We got this ex Charlie Kirk security chief Suze Candice Owens alleging defamation.
[00:28:30]  And we got the court documents here.
[00:28:32]  It's actually fairly interesting.
[00:28:35]  First, we'll just show the prayer for relief.
[00:28:37]  They want compensatory damages, punitive damages, taxable costs, any further relief.
[00:28:43]  So, the gist of it is Brian Harpool, the head of Charlie Kirk Security, is suing Candace Owens as well as her company, Georgetown Inc., and Mitchell Snow.
[00:28:52]  And Mitchell Snow is a person who appeared on Candace Owens' show.
[00:28:55]  I guess one of the principal claims is that Charlie Kirk Security was at some military base in Arizona, and they planned the day before the assassination of Charlie Kirk his assassination.
[00:29:06]  However, he points out that he is verifiably in Dallas, Texas, as per his flight records at Candace Owens.
[00:29:11]  Access to, and she still repeatedly pushed this lie against him.
[00:29:17]  Now, Candace's response, I guess, is that she's happy.
[00:29:19]  She's been waiting for this because now they get discovery.
[00:29:21]  The only thing is, guys, I just.
[00:29:24]  Nick Fuentes actually said it best.
[00:29:25]  He was like, Do you think the Illuminati planted the wrong gun?
[00:29:29]  Like, these people think they're finding all these clues.
[00:29:32]  Like, the Illuminati did this circuitous plan and they accidentally just left clues behind.
[00:29:37]  There's that other comedian bit.
[00:29:39]  I can't remember who showed it to me where the comedians like.
[00:29:41]  Nick Mullen, yeah.
[00:29:42]  Yeah, he's like, we just put together this great conspiracy, and now there's only one less thing to do the clues.
[00:29:49]  Like, this is what people think is going on.
[00:29:50]  They leave all this stuff behind.
[00:29:52]  So, she's going to get sued, and I think she's going to lose.
[00:29:54]  And I think she might get Alex Jones, actually.
[00:29:56]  I think they're going to ask her for discovery.
[00:29:58]  She'll say she gave it to him.
[00:29:59]  They'll say, no, you didn't.
[00:30:00]  You're in default.
[00:30:00]  We're taking all your money.
[00:30:01]  Look at my podcast.
[00:30:02]  I said it.
[00:30:03]  It's true.
[00:30:04]  That's basically it.
[00:30:05]  The thing is, because this is a right on right action, I don't think that's going to happen.
[00:30:09]  Right on right violence.
[00:30:11]  Yeah, right on right violence, dude.
[00:30:13]  Well, so actually, I'm in the lawsuit.
[00:30:15]  How?
[00:30:15]  What are you doing?
[00:30:16]  Oh, really?
[00:30:16]  Yeah, let me see if I can find it.
[00:30:18]  It's a.
[00:30:19]  There's impact.
[00:30:20]  And this is nuts.
[00:30:21]  People claiming that Brian Harpole had a remote detonator to blow up Charlie's microphone.
[00:30:25]  There's so many ridiculous things.
[00:30:27]  What is he like?
[00:30:29]  I love your point because they think there's this grand conspiracy behind everything.
[00:30:34]  And yet the conspiracy never fits the data.
[00:30:38]  It's always like, oh, I had this own idea in my head.
[00:30:42]  And nothing confirms it.
[00:30:45]  Yeah, there is.
[00:30:45]  Well, we had the debate over it.
[00:30:46]  Look, I'll say this.
[00:30:47]  I don't think the official narrative on how.
[00:30:49]  Charlie died is the correct.
[00:30:50]  I don't think it's correct.
[00:30:51]  Like a lone shooter was crazy and killed him.
[00:30:53]  Nah, people expressed foreknowledge.
[00:30:55]  So there's something going on there we don't know about.
[00:30:57]  But this story is, I think, this conspiracy about Israel and whatever is meant to actually distract from who may have actually killed Charlie.
[00:31:05]  And it may be Tyler Robinson, of course, the suspect, but who was aiding and abetting, who was helping bring this together.
[00:31:10]  So I had tweeted, Who is Brian Harpole in December?
[00:31:13]  And she responded, Charlie Kirk, security officer that didn't so much as pack his wound after he was shot.
[00:31:19]  Why are we playing Jeopardy?
[00:31:20]  I've never employed Brian Harpole.
[00:31:22]  If you have proof to the contrary, post it.

=== Charlie Kirk Security Claims (15:12) ===

[00:31:24]  Now, what Candace does is, I never said she hired him.
[00:31:27]  No.
[00:31:27]  You literally just asked who he was.
[00:31:29]  No, My point is, I said Candace Owens had the same security as Charlie, which is kind of obvious because she worked at Turning Point.
[00:31:38]  Yeah.
[00:31:38]  So, Turning Point hired security.
[00:31:40]  They secured Candace, Charlie, and everybody else.
[00:31:43]  She then adds the word employed to reframing it.
[00:31:48]  It'd be like saying you and I have the same security, but I'm not employing them.
[00:31:51]  Yeah.
[00:31:51]  And then the point is, She will then later say, Tim Poole claimed I hired Brian Harpool.
[00:31:56]  I never did, which I never said.
[00:31:58]  She's changing the subject because my point is she has been at events secured by Brian Harpool.
[00:32:05]  So she has been protected by him on numerous occasions at Turning Point USA.
[00:32:09]  She is fabricating all of this stuff.
[00:32:13]  And this is the game she plays semantics.
[00:32:15]  So when Erica Kirk said, Candace is accusing me of killing my own husband, she goes, I never said that.
[00:32:19]  And all of her retards go, She never said that.
[00:32:22]  There's literally a leaked text message where she says, Why did you kill your husband?
[00:32:25]  There's a video where she goes, Right to jail, right to jail.
[00:32:28]  There's another video where she says, if there was this much evidence against me, or what did she say?
[00:32:34]  No.
[00:32:34]  If Charlie were alive and this much evidence existed against him, right to jail.
[00:32:39]  Like, we get it.
[00:32:41]  But it's the weirdest thing to me is how people choose to live in a world where anyone who's paying attention knows exactly the insinuation Candace is making with Bride of Charlie or whatever it was called.
[00:32:52]  She also had a thumbnail of Erica holding a gunpoint right at his neck.
[00:32:55]  And anyone editing that on her team would have been like, whoa, like, either switch, like, do something different because of the message it sends.
[00:33:03]  She knows what she's doing.
[00:33:04]  Did she text Erica directly and say?
[00:33:06]  No, this was to another employee.
[00:33:07]  You said that there was a leaked text of her being like, why did you kill your husband?
[00:33:10]  Yeah, there was a woman that she was texting with, and the woman was like, what would you ask her?
[00:33:15]  And Candace said, my first question is, why did you kill your husband?
[00:33:19]  And said she was kidding.
[00:33:20]  So she was making a joke.
[00:33:20]  There is a difference between publicly promoting something and having one of your pseudo private communications leaked.
[00:33:27]  But I mean, if you text another human, that's gone public.
[00:33:30]  Whether you want to accept that or not.
[00:33:33]  Indeed.
[00:33:34]  Tell that to Jay Jones.
[00:33:35]  Why would it be?
[00:33:36]  Yeah, yeah, right.
[00:33:37]  He said he wanted to kill the children.
[00:33:38]  He wanted the children of his enemies to die so that they would suffer and change their political views.
[00:33:42]  In a text to someone that got leaked?
[00:33:43]  Yeah.
[00:33:44]  In a text to a Republican.
[00:33:45]  Yeah, I'll tell Jay Jones, don't.
[00:33:47]  Anything you text people is public, dude.
[00:33:48]  Anything you email is public.
[00:33:50]  He doesn't care, and they voted for him anyway.
[00:33:51]  But there is a difference of promoting it and having it leaked.
[00:33:54]  There is a difference there, but it's still public data.
[00:33:57]  But he got all the stuff.
[00:33:57]  Maybe they would argue it's private.
[00:33:59]  Guys, guys.
[00:33:59]  Two concerned parties.
[00:34:01]  Look.
[00:34:03]  Graham Platner's got a Nazi tattoo.
[00:34:06]  And it's not just that.
[00:34:07]  It's the things he posted on Reddit are getting leaked repeatedly or reposted repeatedly.
[00:34:11]  He said a bunch of things that I actually don't find all that shocking, but for a Democrat, you should be upset about them.
[00:34:16]  He called people the F word.
[00:34:19]  And he's also got a Nazi tattoo.
[00:34:21]  They don't care.
[00:34:22]  He's the front runner.
[00:34:22]  They're going to vote for him.
[00:34:24]  This is what Keem Jeffries called maximum warfare.
[00:34:26]  My point is, Candace Owens lives in that world too.
[00:34:29]  She doesn't care.
[00:34:30]  She doesn't care if it's true or false.
[00:34:32]  She's like, take what you can get.
[00:34:33]  The system's going to implode in two seconds and then she'll move to China or something.
[00:34:37]  About the dude with the Nazi tattoo, I kind of feel like this is.
[00:34:39]  Based.
[00:34:40]  This dude got a badass tattoo and he didn't care that it was a Nazi tattoo.
[00:34:43]  He did care.
[00:34:44]  He apologized for it.
[00:34:45]  If he owned up to it, I'd respect him.
[00:34:47]  He didn't know?
[00:34:48]  He didn't know.
[00:34:49]  He says he didn't know it was a Nazi tattoo.
[00:34:52]  He's a well known history buff.
[00:34:55]  People have claimed that he's a World War II history guy.
[00:34:57]  He got a Nazi tattoo.
[00:34:58]  He walked into a Nazi.
[00:34:59]  Listen.
[00:34:59]  That'd be nuts.
[00:35:01]  Nazi paraphernalia is illegal in Croatia.
[00:35:03]  Has been since the 90s.
[00:35:05]  And they've enforced against it in major moves sporadically.
[00:35:07]  Like 2004, there was a report that did a major sweep.
[00:35:10]  Homeboy.
[00:35:11]  Found a Nazi parlor with Nazi imagery on display.
[00:35:15]  That's illegal in Croatia.
[00:35:16]  So he goes.
[00:35:17]  It's a cheeky tattoo parlor.
[00:35:18]  He goes to a tattoo parlor that is publicly displaying on their wall a Totenkampf and he goes, I'd like that.
[00:35:24]  How do you accidentally go to a Nazi tattoo parlor?
[00:35:26]  Did he not notice like the SS tattoo on the guy's neck?
[00:35:29]  No, you said, well, the story is that he was heavily drunk, heavily drunk.
[00:35:32]  Sure.
[00:35:32]  Him and all his buddies were like, let's go to this back alley, illegal tattoo parlor full of Nazis.
[00:35:37]  So either he got it intentionally or he's so retarded he didn't know.
[00:35:40]  Or, can we add to this?
[00:35:42]  Do you think that was the only thing on the wall?
[00:35:45]  No.
[00:35:45]  If they're going to put a Tottencomp when they maybe put an SS and a swastika and a bunch of other things.
[00:35:49]  Maybe it wasn't on the wall.
[00:35:49]  Maybe he's like.
[00:35:50]  He said it was on the wall.
[00:35:51]  He's like, I want swastika.
[00:35:51]  Anyway, I don't want to get into the grand plan.
[00:35:53]  I don't want to get into the grand plan.
[00:35:53]  I want to get into the grand plan.
[00:35:54]  Drunkenness doesn't make you a different person.
[00:35:56]  My point is this to go back to what Candace is doing in the lawsuit and where we're currently at politically, it's maximum warfare.
[00:36:03]  I see, you know, we've got this data coming out that Tucker Carlson is the biggest podcast ever in history, 20 times bigger than Joe Rogan.
[00:36:11]  I mean, this is tremendous.
[00:36:13]  I should pull this up.
[00:36:15]  I'm going to pull this up for you guys.
[00:36:16]  Did you guys hear?
[00:36:17]  You guys all, we talked about it before the show.
[00:36:19]  Tucker Carlson is 20 times bigger than Joe Rogan.
[00:36:21]  I mean, this is tremendous, tremendous work.
[00:36:23]  I don't know how he did it, but certainly his message of anti Trump and anti Israel has resonated massively with his audience.
[00:36:36]  And so we have this here Tucker Carlson Network sees historic growth.
[00:36:41]  Look at this.
[00:36:43]  His episode viewership across all socials is 56.8 million.
[00:36:46]  That's amazing because Joe Rogan does about 2 million.
[00:36:48]  He does about 2.
[00:36:50]  Now, if at his peak, Rogan and Spotify have said that his episodes have gotten upwards of 10 million.
[00:36:58]  I mean, look, if Joe is like, if Tucker is five to 20 times, because right now I think Joe's numbers are around 2 million, 56.8 million views per episode.
[00:37:12]  Wow.
[00:37:13]  I mean, this has got, this should be front page.
[00:37:15]  This should be the biggest thing ever.
[00:37:17]  Everyone should be talking about how big Tucker Carlson is.
[00:37:18]  My point is this obviously it's not real.
[00:37:22]  Anybody who thinks Tucker is getting 60 million views per episode, and I want to clarify, he's comparing.
[00:37:29]  Tucker Carlson tonight, primetime viewers at 5.3 million to his current show, episode views across socials at 56.8.
[00:37:38]  He's not saying promo clips.
[00:37:39]  He's not saying segments.
[00:37:41]  He's saying episode views.
[00:37:43]  If you really believe he's 10x bigger than when he's on Fox News, okay, well, I don't have to tell you.
[00:37:48]  I asked Grok a little bit about it.
[00:37:49]  They said that if you scroll past the show on Twitter, that's a view.
[00:37:53]  Of course.
[00:37:53]  And if you scroll up and down, that's two views.
[00:37:56]  The point is this why wouldn't Tucker exclude that?
[00:37:59]  Because it's not fair.
[00:38:00]  Because everybody just wants to maximize right now.
[00:38:03]  So, Tucker, the same as everybody else, is I better claw my way up to this pile of corpses right now while I still have the chance.
[00:38:11]  But people are.
[00:38:13]  That's what Candace is doing.
[00:38:14]  Is to make Tucker look like the best in the age of information war.
[00:38:20]  That's a part of it.
[00:38:20]  I'm saying you have to maim, lie, cheat, steal to seize power now before it's too late.
[00:38:27]  Man, I've been thinking a lot about that lately.
[00:38:29]  That's what they're doing.
[00:38:31]  Like, that would indicate, like, violence.
[00:38:33]  Like, in my opinion, that would indicate, like, Like, not good, not good for our families and people.
[00:38:38]  What do you, what do you, what, Tucker, Tucker?
[00:38:40]  No, like, seizing power now before it's taken from you.
[00:38:43]  And it's like, I don't want to be the idiot that's like, let's just stay together, let's all get along.
[00:38:47]  And then all of a sudden, I get, everything gets burned.
[00:38:49]  I don't want that.
[00:38:51]  So at some point, I don't, I also don't want to instigate a war.
[00:38:54]  So let's, let's, let's talk about what I've been desperately waiting to talk about this whole time.
[00:38:59]  And that's Animal Farm.
[00:39:00]  But it, it is in line with what we were just talking about.
[00:39:02]  So previously in the other segment, for those that are just tuning in, Tucker Carlson, I'll show you, announced, That he's got 56.8 million views per episode, 10x his Fox News show.
[00:39:13]  Of course, that's not a one for one metric.
[00:39:16]  It makes no sense for him to compare those numbers.
[00:39:18]  And he's certainly not five to 20 times bigger than Joe Rogan.
[00:39:20]  However, he's saying these things.
[00:39:22]  He's apologizing for supporting Trump and not knowing that Miriam Adelson was pro Israel and that we go to war.
[00:39:28]  It's not, none of it's true.
[00:39:30]  Candace Owens is getting sued because she said crazy things.
[00:39:32]  Now we go to Animal Farm, where we have, how about this?
[00:39:35]  Riley Gaines promoting a film who's starred by a male who wants to be a female.
[00:39:41]  Who hates Riley Gaines and says Riley isn't doing this?
[00:39:44]  Like, how do you get Riley Gaines to promote the work of a trans person who hates you?
[00:39:52]  It just, the point is this Animal Farm, the film, is not the book and is nothing in any way related to the book.
[00:39:59]  Characters have similar names, but principal characters not in the book.
[00:40:02]  Conservatives across the board are taking cash money to promote a film that is explicitly anti capitalist.
[00:40:10]  So when we talk about Candace and Tucker, it's not unique to them.
[00:40:13]  You've got all of these people.
[00:40:14]  Here's Riley Gaines.
[00:40:15]  We'll show you, I'll break it down for you.
[00:40:18]  My husband and I got early access screening to Animal Farm, an animated adaptation of George Orwell's novel made by Angel Studios.
[00:40:24]  Incredibly well done.
[00:40:25]  They do a perfect job of reminding viewers that Marxism always has and always will fail.
[00:40:29]  Except Andy Serkis explicitly stated it's not about Stalinist Russia, it's about capitalism and overconsumption.
[00:40:36]  Did she not watch the movie?
[00:40:37]  She's just repeating that line, that lie that was put out by Angel Studios.
[00:40:42]  Here's who she's promoting Laverne Cox at the Animal Farm promo.
[00:40:46]  I'm not sure if it's the premiere or not saying this.
[00:40:49]  At the heart of every genocide is dehumanization.
[00:40:53]  That is the beginning.
[00:40:55]  And I know we're talking about animals here, but when we stop seeing our fellow citizens as human, then we can commit violence against them with impunity, take away their rights.
[00:41:06]  I think what we've seen over the past six years with trans people is a really good example of that.
[00:41:12]  It's clear that it's never been about sports.
[00:41:14]  It's never been about protecting women or children.
[00:41:16]  If they wanted to protect women and children, they would indict.
[00:41:20]  The Epstein people in the Epstein files, we know who they are, but they're not doing that.
[00:41:25]  So, that was all a pretext to scapegoat trans people to dehumanize us and put us in an excluded category so that we can take away our rights, legislate us out of existence.
[00:41:39]  You know, yeah, shout out to Laverne Cox doing a promo for the film Animal Farm.
[00:41:43]  And I'm just so grateful that Message was able to get out there with the help of Riley Gaines.
[00:41:46]  You see, the truth is, you've got Tucker Carlson in his latest episode promoting Animal Farm, you've got Riley Gaines.
[00:41:54]  Emily Saves America, Older Millennial, many people, Wall Street Mav and Josie the Redheaded Libertarian took down their promos.
[00:42:00]  I didn't see them, but I know that they both deleted them.
[00:42:02]  And Josie does work here, full disclosure.
[00:42:05]  People are willing to take money to promote anti capitalism and pro communism despite claiming to be on the other side of that.
[00:42:13]  Why?
[00:42:14]  The same reason Tucker is going to say, I'm tormented for supporting Trump, the same reason Candace is all of a sudden claiming wackaloon conspiracies.
[00:42:22]  All of these people have one thing on their mind how do I get money from this?
[00:42:26]  This is the nature of politics today.
[00:42:29]  Lie, cheat, steal, and get yours before the Titanic sinks.
[00:42:33]  Yeah, I think like there's this thing in conservative media where they just all they know about George Orwell is in 1984.
[00:42:40]  And so they just kind of like assume, well, this guy must be our guy.
[00:42:43]  And Orwell is like a very complicated figure.
[00:42:46]  And honestly, when you thumb through a lot of his politics, unless you have a good understanding of the context of the time, you're just not going to be able to parse through it.
[00:42:53]  Like he was simultaneously like a democratic socialist, like explicitly, but also like a very, he put a lot of emphasis on like English traditionalism.
[00:43:01]  So that's why I think it's really dangerous to try and apply his writings to anything that would resemble contemporary politics because it's just not comparable at all.
[00:43:09]  Orwell needs to be read, when you read Orwell, within the context of early 20th century political philosophy.
[00:43:16]  Otherwise, it's going to come off sloppy.
[00:43:19]  And this is what all the critics are pointing out this movie.
[00:43:21]  It's just not communicating at all what was in the initial book, nor does it reflect Orwell in any meaningful way.
[00:43:28]  And like I said, if you're going to turn Orwell into your conservative crusader, Okay, maybe on the traditional values outside of that, there's not really much overlap.
[00:43:37]  So, let's just not do this.
[00:43:39]  Yeah, I think it's also super weird that Riley Gaines, like Tim pointed out, is promoting this.
[00:43:43]  When Laverne Cox, who is one of the most famous trans people in Hollywood, is in this movie and very much like a, you know, outspoken activist, you would think that of all people, Riley Gaines, and I like Riley, I like a lot of her content, but you would think that she might be like, I don't know if I want to like put my name to this because it's hypocritical, really, at the end of the day to do that.
[00:44:04]  I haven't seen this movie.
[00:44:06]  We didn't get any of the testers, and we really don't want to spend our money on it.
[00:44:10]  So we haven't seen it yet.
[00:44:12]  We did think about doing a review over at Pop Culture Crisis, but.
[00:44:16]  Communism.
[00:44:17]  Yeah, I don't know if we're actually going to do that because I don't know if we can actually.
[00:44:20]  Well, I want to know where, how it fell apart because I've been a fan of Angel for a while.
[00:44:24]  You played the clip.
[00:44:25]  Oh, I got a clip for you guys.
[00:44:27]  Yeah, I mean, how about this clip right here?
[00:44:28]  You ready for this clip?
[00:44:29]  You ready?
[00:44:31]  Hey, where'd this come from?
[00:44:32]  It's leftovers.
[00:44:33]  It'll go to waste.
[00:44:34]  You should have this for all your hard work.
[00:44:36]  No, Thank you, but it's supposed to be shared equally.
[00:44:42]  There is no supposed to anymore, okay?
[00:44:45]  We're free.
[00:44:45]  For example, I'm about to fart right now.
[00:44:52]  This is the sound of freedom.
[00:44:54]  Yeah.
[00:44:55]  The sound of freedom is total crap.
[00:44:58]  The sound of freedom is just trash.
[00:45:02]  Sounds like art.
[00:45:02]  The sound of freedom is just a fart coming out of a book.
[00:45:04]  The sound of freedom.
[00:45:05]  Why does that sound familiar?
[00:45:07]  Weird.
[00:45:07]  Yeah, that was interesting.
[00:45:08]  To this point, the flagship movie from Angel, I think the best movie.
[00:45:12]  Oh, that's right.
[00:45:13]  And here's what.
[00:45:14]  They watched the movie.
[00:45:14]  Animal Farm film, one of the official accounts with Angel says.
[00:45:18]  The sound and smell of freedom.
[00:45:21]  Are they just intentionally attacking the guild?
[00:45:25]  When you're in business and you're running a company, sometimes you don't get down to the little idiosyncrasies of what everyone at the company is doing.
[00:45:30]  But like Harmons, you guys need to watch the movie before you take it.
[00:45:36]  No.
[00:45:36]  Why did they post this, bro?
[00:45:37]  I don't know.
[00:45:38]  That's what I'm asking.
[00:45:40]  It's funny they go, oops, they were intentionally mocking us, mocking the guild, and anyone who ever put money in this.
[00:45:44]  They're mocking anybody who ever promoted Sound of Freedom.
[00:45:47]  We raised $25,000 for Tim Ballard.
[00:45:50]  These people are scumbags.
[00:45:53]  I'm more and more pissed by this every day.
[00:45:55]  And these people have the gall to call me a pig.
[00:45:57]  I'm not kidding.
[00:45:58]  Angel Studios put out a promo where they said people like me are a loud minority trying to shut them down like the pigs.
[00:46:05]  Oof.
[00:46:05]  Yep.
[00:46:06]  They name you by name?
[00:46:08]  They highlight only.
[00:46:10]  Oh, Animal Farm.
[00:46:12]  No one wants us to be together.
[00:46:14]  They haven't even seen me.
[00:46:15]  They're judging a movie by its trailer, which is what trailers are for.
[00:46:20]  But still.
[00:46:21]  Like Chloe Rice 8272 said, Seth Rogen is probably the last person to come to mind to voice a character who's literally meant to resemble Stalin.
[00:46:29]  Resembles Lie.
[00:46:31]  Napoleon does not resemble Stalin in any way.
[00:46:34]  He's comic relief, as we've shown with The Fart.

=== Animal Farm Stalin Comparison (10:04) ===

[00:46:36]  Stalin was a serious, manipulative dictator who executed people and erased them from photographs.
[00:46:41]  Napoleon in the film is a sad pig who just wanted to fit in with humans and he got into credit card debt.
[00:46:47]  Not a joke.
[00:46:49]  He gets embarrassed that the humans make fun of him because he's walking on four legs.
[00:46:53]  That's his motivation for trying to stand up.
[00:46:55]  He doesn't like being made fun of.
[00:46:57]  Frieda Pilkington, Elon's mom, helps him get a credit card, but then he realizes he's trapped in credit card debt, so he sells the farm to her, not Stalin.
[00:47:03]  Stalin as a pig.
[00:47:05]  Seth Rogen is a perfect pig, Stalin.
[00:47:08]  People are saying I should have been rated R, full of blood, darkness, and despair.
[00:47:13]  At Huff UITV said, making animal farm kid friendly is dystopian.
[00:47:18]  It's a story about talking farm animals, it's read by kids in middle school.
[00:47:22]  George Orwell made it that way.
[00:47:23]  It's not like we're doing Schindler's List with farm animals.
[00:47:27]  It's Animal Farm.
[00:47:28]  And then at DustinMaddox9445 said, It is wild that Angel Studios would put out a pro communism movie that was adapted from an anti communism book.
[00:47:38]  But I hate communism.
[00:47:40]  Me too.
[00:47:41]  Didn't actually address anything in the film.
[00:47:43]  The Harmon brothers all canceled on us, refused to come on and debate the show.
[00:47:46]  Wouldn't get or couldn't get anybody from production to come on to the show.
[00:47:49]  Postponed, then canceled on us.
[00:47:51]  The film is explicitly anti capitalist as per the words of Andy Serkis himself.
[00:47:56]  And at Generically Entertaining said, They don't even need that windmill anymore.
[00:48:00]  Just hook up a generator to George Orwell's grave and he'd power the whole farm.
[00:48:04]  There is no windmill in the movie.
[00:48:07]  One of the most important elements of the book is the windmill and the battle to defend the windmill.
[00:48:11]  There's no windmill in the movie.
[00:48:13]  There's no old major and snowballs in it for 10 minutes.
[00:48:15]  It's not Animal Farm.
[00:48:16]  It's a different movie.
[00:48:18]  I, uh, very much I'm into forgiveness and people, you know, rectifying real things.
[00:48:24]  I'm not going to burn bridges with the guys.
[00:48:26]  I'm not going to burn bridges with angels.
[00:48:28]  No, most don't.
[00:48:29]  You pass the guild.
[00:48:30]  It's a loud minority trying to silence us.
[00:48:33]  Like the pigs.
[00:48:34]  Yeah, all of this is a loud minority, like the pigs.
[00:48:38]  How about this?
[00:48:39]  How about you put my tweets in your stupid promo?
[00:48:41]  They won't because they know.
[00:48:43]  They also.
[00:48:44]  Canceled likely because they knew if they sat down, I'd go.
[00:48:47]  Andy Serkis says this is about capitalism, not communism.
[00:48:49]  What say you?
[00:48:50]  Well, Andy Serkis, the director of the film, is wrong.
[00:48:53]  No, they're just lying.
[00:48:54]  This was a lie.
[00:48:55]  I just wanted families, including kids, to understand why communism is bad.
[00:48:59]  Is that so wrong?
[00:49:00]  They'll never let us be together because of Seth.
[00:49:03]  They are tricking conservatives into bringing their children to a movie that tells them capitalism is bad because they're telling the parents about communism, hoping the parents don't pay much attention, and the kids go in and learn about how private equity.
[00:49:16]  Debt financing are all bad.
[00:49:17]  Big banks are bad.
[00:49:18]  And by all means, you can criticize all those things.
[00:49:20]  People aren't happy with big financial institutions, but it's not an anti communism movie.
[00:49:24]  Because of Seth Broken.
[00:49:26]  So I guess we just won't release you to the world.
[00:49:28]  I'll disappear.
[00:49:31]  Was Angel Studios an op the whole time?
[00:49:33]  I was just wondering.
[00:49:34]  It seems like almost too.
[00:49:36]  You know, Sound of Freedom was a marketing campaign, right?
[00:49:39]  For Angel Studios.
[00:49:40]  Sound of Freedom was promoted because, well, there's a company claiming this, that they went to a bunch of influencers and paid them money.
[00:49:47]  To claim Sound of Freedom is being censored and it's got to be promoted.
[00:49:51]  And I should figure out which company that was.
[00:49:52]  I'm going to look it up.
[00:49:54]  We saw Sound of Freedom because we liked the film, because it was powerful, had these people on, promoted them, promoted Tim Ballard, and then raised $25,000 for them.
[00:50:03]  And now I feel like it was a scam the whole time, like they were tricking us.
[00:50:08]  I'm not getting that vibe.
[00:50:09]  I think this is like, because they wanted, they were like, we should go on, they were behind it.
[00:50:13]  They were like, we're going to come on the show and stand behind our message, which indicates they really believed.
[00:50:23]  If this is what they like, whoa, Okay?
[00:50:50]  He said it before we were supposed to have our debate.
[00:50:52]  He said it before they made this fake promo claiming it's anti communism.
[00:50:56]  Why?
[00:50:57]  Because it is about anti capitalism movies.
[00:51:00]  No, no, no.
[00:51:00]  Communism.
[00:51:01]  They said communism in their promo.
[00:51:03]  Angel Students made a promo saying it's about communism.
[00:51:05]  It's not.
[00:51:06]  Andy Serkis said it's not.
[00:51:08]  Every interview going back to December said it's not.
[00:51:11]  Why are they lying?
[00:51:13]  Because probably because they invested $16 million into it and they need to make a profit.
[00:51:20]  Indeed, they are contractually obligated to promote the film.
[00:51:23]  They're a publicly traded company, so they have to push communist content.
[00:51:26]  They bought it, and they're going to lie if that's what they have to do.
[00:51:29]  They're contractually obligated to lie.
[00:51:31]  Yeah, they have to.
[00:51:32]  Or they'll get sued.
[00:51:33]  In the United States, publicly traded companies must push profit motive.
[00:51:36]  That's why they launched B Corpse in some circumstances.
[00:51:39]  They cannot come out and cause financial harm to their own product because they're publicly traded.
[00:51:42]  They'll get sued by their shareholders.
[00:51:45]  That means they will continually lie to the guild.
[00:51:48]  And you know what's funny is there have been people trying to.
[00:51:51]  Asking, like, hey, are you if you're a guild member of Angel Studios, did you actually vote for this?
[00:51:55]  I've not seen anybody say they did.
[00:51:57]  I've seen people say we were asked if we wanted Animal Farm as a film and said yes, but never that trailer or this version of it.
[00:52:03]  Yeah, well, because they would have been like, hey, we want to present this sort of anti communist messaging.
[00:52:07]  And everyone's like, yeah, it's like, so we got Andy Serkis, Seth Rogen's ready.
[00:52:12]  Oh, okay.
[00:52:12]  Well, this is not really who I had in mind for maybe pushing the anti communism line here.
[00:52:17]  Yeah, you didn't think Laverne Cox was going to come in and do like a big anti communism push.
[00:52:22]  Well, okay, maybe it's the right stories.
[00:52:23]  What story?
[00:52:24]  Oh, it was written by this guy that fought for Republican Spain.
[00:52:27]  Oh, okay.
[00:52:27]  Well, it's like, what are we doing here?
[00:52:29]  What's going on?
[00:52:30]  I mean, to be fair for Angel, it isn't just Sound of Freedom.
[00:52:34]  They did Live Not by Lies with Rod Dre.
[00:52:37]  They've done a lot of other good conservative content.
[00:52:40]  Yeah, they have.
[00:52:40]  I don't think that this was like, I don't know where the.
[00:52:44]  So, one of the main things, and I've been hearing Seth Rogen and Andy Serkis talk about it being anti capitalist, which is really alarming to me.
[00:52:56]  I'd often heard the angel line pushed.
[00:52:59]  Where do you see in the movie?
[00:53:01]  I mean, Tim, you've seen it.
[00:53:03]  You know better than the rest of us.
[00:53:05]  Like, they took the windmill out.
[00:53:07]  It sounds like there's a lot of liberties.
[00:53:10]  Well, it's not Animal Farm in any way.
[00:53:12]  Yeah.
[00:53:12]  Okay.
[00:53:13]  Animal farm.
[00:53:14]  The animals are mistreated by the farmer.
[00:53:16]  He's a drunk.
[00:53:17]  So they, so they, Old Major tells them a story of how you can live better.
[00:53:22]  We can all support ourselves.
[00:53:23]  We don't need the farmer anymore.
[00:53:25]  They decide to stage a revolution.
[00:53:27]  They then all work together, but the pigs are smart, slowly take over and amass more power.
[00:53:31]  Snowball, who's wounded in the great battle, is a hero.
[00:53:36]  Napoleon changes the narrative, manipulates everybody, takes puppies away from the dogs to raise them to be his guard dogs.
[00:53:43]  When the chicken, Steals the eggs and the chickens and then executes them for complaining.
[00:53:47]  When Boxer gets injured doing work, he sells them off for glue.
[00:53:51]  Napoleon is described as with gravity but a very few words.
[00:53:56]  The movie, Animal Farm, the film, which we should even call Animal Farm, is a bunch of happy animals live on a farm, but Farmer Jones can't afford to pay his mortgage.
[00:54:04]  The bank is foreclosing on the farm, and Frieda Pilkington buys the assets to pay off some of the debt to acquire it.
[00:54:10]  The animals realize they're about to go to a slaughterhouse and attack Frieda Pilkington's employees.
[00:54:15]  The banker says, We don't care.
[00:54:17]  You owe us money.
[00:54:18]  We're going to give you X amount of time, like a week or whatever, to make up the mortgage.
[00:54:22]  Otherwise, we're coming back and someone else will buy it.
[00:54:24]  So the animals all work together and sell eggs and give horse rides and sell milk.
[00:54:29]  Then the pigs go to the banker and say, Here's the mortgage.
[00:54:32]  The banker takes only a piece of the money and gives the rest back, saying, The rest is yours.
[00:54:36]  This is your mortgage.
[00:54:37]  I'll be back next month.
[00:54:38]  The pigs go, What do we do with the extra money?
[00:54:41]  Let's go shopping.
[00:54:42]  So they go to the mall.
[00:54:43]  The animals get mad because they're doing all the work, but the pigs are getting all the profit.
[00:54:46]  The pigs, then at the ball, Napoleon gets embarrassed because he's walking around and the humans laugh at him.
[00:54:52]  He wants to be like them because they're being mean to him.
[00:54:54]  Frieda Pilkington gets him a credit card so he can buy a car and buy clothes.
[00:54:58]  He doesn't realize that the credit card is debt you got to keep paying off, gets angry, saying, How am I supposed to come up with magic paper to pay for all these things every single month?
[00:55:07]  And Frieda Pilkington says, I'll acquire the farm from you, build a hydroelectric dam, and give you a cash payout.
[00:55:12]  We'll liquidate the animals for cash.
[00:55:15]  During the construction, one of the employees gets injured and Boxer struggles to lift a crane.
[00:55:19]  Off of the injured employee who struggles to get out from underneath it before being crushed, and he breaks his leg in the process.
[00:55:26]  They sell him for glue.
[00:55:27]  I don't know if the message is there because it's not really about being the hard, industrious worker who's injured on the job.
[00:55:33]  The original message of Boxer was that he was a hard worker in a factory who got injured on the job in the factory, and instead of getting rewarded by communism, was killed.
[00:55:41]  Boxer is just valiantly trying to save one of the employees, and then they sell him.
[00:55:46]  But he was selling all of the animals anyway.
[00:55:48]  So the animals then decide in Act Three.
[00:55:51]  We need to have a revolution.
[00:55:53]  For the first time, the animals decided to have a revolution.
[00:55:55]  They didn't revolt against Farmer Jones.
[00:55:57]  He was chased off by the employees and the bank kicked him out.
[00:56:01]  So they plant explosives in the hydroelectric dam, blowing it up, killing all of our employees.
[00:56:05]  And then Lucky, the new character, swims out of the water up to the other animals and says, We should all work together because we want to, not because we have to.
[00:56:12]  The camera pans up to the sky and it says the end.
[00:56:14]  No joke.
[00:56:15]  That's literally the end.
[00:56:15]  The book is about post revolution.
[00:56:19]  The whole book is.
[00:56:19]  This is all pre revolution.
[00:56:21]  The book is effectively a prequel to Animal Farm in essence.
[00:56:25]  And some have actually made the suggestion, which would be interesting if.
[00:56:30]  At the end, Lucky says, We should all work because we want to, not because we have to.
[00:56:36]  And then he had an evil looking grin.
[00:56:38]  And the implication was he's going to become Napoleon.

=== Crony Capitalism Critique (15:58) ===

[00:56:41]  Maybe there'd be something there.
[00:56:43]  But the fact that the revolution only happens at the end of the movie and they massacre a bunch of corporate employees to do it, they're two completely different scripts, completely unrelated.
[00:56:54]  I thought it was kind of in that clip with that guy that looks like Will Ferrell that tries to act like Will Ferrell.
[00:56:59]  No shade, dude.
[00:57:00]  I don't know who you are, but.
[00:57:01]  Your acting styles are a little sus.
[00:57:03]  Is that not him?
[00:57:03]  No, that's a guy that looks like Will Ferrell that gets cast on cheap internet commercials because he's really.
[00:57:07]  That's hilarious.
[00:57:10]  Imagine being no fucking guy.
[00:57:11]  I mean, he probably makes a lot of money.
[00:57:12]  Tenth of the funniness of Will Ferrell, by the way.
[00:57:15]  They said that the book is about talking animals.
[00:57:17]  The book was never about a communist revolution.
[00:57:21]  There happened to be talking animals because he didn't want to make humans for whatever reason.
[00:57:25]  He anthropomorphized.
[00:57:26]  But hey, humans are animals too.
[00:57:28]  And the book was not about that.
[00:57:30]  It wasn't a comedy.
[00:57:31]  It never was meant to be a comedy.
[00:57:32]  It's deadly serious about the danger of communist revolutions.
[00:57:36]  So, I don't mean this in any way disrespectfully to Epic.
[00:57:40]  I'm not sure if they are the only ones who worked on it.
[00:57:44]  But Sound of Freedom was not an organic, good film that everybody noticed and it went viral.
[00:57:52]  It was a marketing campaign where marketing companies went to prominent conservative personalities and said, We will pay you to promote this.
[00:58:00]  We never got paid for any of this.
[00:58:02]  This is Epic Inc. case study Sound of Freedom from shelved project to box office breakthrough after years of being shelved.
[00:58:09]  Facing media resistance and entering a crowded release window over the 4th of July, Sign of Freedom needed a campaign that could break through in a big way.
[00:58:15]  Epic helped set that stage, developing the messaging, aligning the talent, logistics, managing risk, and securing press across secular, faith based, and conservative outlets.
[00:58:23]  The result was a triumph, one of the most successful indie films ever.
[00:58:26]  Now, marketing is marketing.
[00:58:27]  Everyone's going to do a marketing campaign.
[00:58:29]  I just think it's important to note since the beginning, it was not like a group of people fighting a culture war rose up, everyone banded together, and staged a revolution against Hollywood.
[00:58:38]  It was a marketing company paying conservatives to say that.
[00:58:41]  And then everyone promoted the film.
[00:58:43]  We were not involved in any of that.
[00:58:44]  We promoted the film out of a genuine interest, and we raised $25,000 for Tim Ballard and his organization.
[00:58:50]  But I'm glad we could have been a secondary effect to their marketing campaign.
[00:58:54]  And you know what really, really bothers me?
[00:58:57]  I'm finding out that we are the only real company that exists in the space.
[00:59:00]  I'm not saying that, like, I'm being hyperbolic.
[00:59:03]  But speaking with some, I was talking to a political consultant recently who said to me, like, Tim, you do realize that.
[00:59:13]  A lot of these political personalities on X, they get paid like $50,000 per post.
[00:59:18]  They'll, like, a company will come to them and say, We have a new administration official that we need to get through the Senate.
[00:59:24]  We'll pay you $50,000 from now until confirmation to post a couple times per week arguing why this person needs to be in the administration.
[00:59:33]  And that's, I don't want to say most, but a lot of the high profile personalities you see on left and right, they don't actually care.
[00:59:41]  Why won't liberals come on the show?
[00:59:43]  They're just goons.
[00:59:44]  They're, they're, they're, they're, they amassed followers through nonsense.
[00:59:47]  Then the Democratic Party and PACs go to them and say, okay, here's a list of candidates we want.
[00:59:52]  100 grand if you promote this guy, 50 if you promote this guy, and they'll go, I'll promote them all.
[00:59:56]  So then when I say, why don't we debate your argument, these people are going, I don't have an argument.
[01:00:00]  I just wanted 100 grand.
[01:00:02]  So then conservatives are doing the exact same thing.
[01:00:04]  All fake.
[01:00:06]  Conservatives, a lot of these companies, man, and we don't get any money for it.
[01:00:10]  And I'm sitting here being like, we could charge every single person who comes on IRL $10,000.
[01:00:16]  The show would be funded just by people who want to appear on the show because I have followers.
[01:00:19]  And we don't do that.
[01:00:20]  We actually pay for their travel.
[01:00:22]  Suckers.
[01:00:23]  We're suckers.
[01:00:25]  There it is.
[01:00:26]  There it is.
[01:00:26]  I have a hard time promoting things that I don't believe in or that I don't understand.
[01:00:31]  You should have a hard time doing that.
[01:00:33]  Yeah, apparently we're the only show in the business that does that.
[01:00:36]  I used to do commercials in Hollywood, man.
[01:00:38]  It was the dirtiest.
[01:00:38]  I felt like a prostitute.
[01:00:40]  It was so.
[01:00:41]  And I understand if you're starving and you need money, the things you'd be willing to do, I get that.
[01:00:45]  But for Riley and her husband to promote it, I don't know.
[01:00:47]  I don't know you, Riley.
[01:00:49]  I don't know your level of intellect.
[01:00:50]  I don't know if you saw the movie.
[01:00:51]  I don't know if you understood the movie.
[01:00:52]  But did you need the money?
[01:00:54]  Can we just.
[01:00:55]  Just believe in the book or what?
[01:00:57]  The fact that Laverne Cox is one of the top billed actors on the film, outright saying at the premiere or at a premiere, it's never about sports, it's about taking away our rights.
[01:01:10]  And Riley Gaines took money to promote that film is just icing on the cake of the conservative.
[01:01:17]  And I don't want to rag out conservative specifically, it's the grift, it's the social media grift.
[01:01:21]  A bunch of these anti Israel people were all promoting sports gambling in Indonesia or something.
[01:01:26]  You remember that one?
[01:01:27]  Yeah.
[01:01:28]  There was some like Malaysian casino website, and they were all spam blasting it out there.
[01:01:33]  I hope the money was worth it, morons.
[01:01:36]  Yeah, and I think people are doubling down too.
[01:01:38]  I just saw the older millennial like doubled down on his take on the movie.
[01:01:43]  Really?
[01:01:44]  Yeah, yeah, we just got it in Slack actually.
[01:01:46]  They name you.
[01:01:47]  He names you.
[01:01:48]  I called him a scumbag.
[01:01:50]  Yeah, he names you directly.
[01:01:51]  So he did respond, but he's doubling down and still saying the movie wasn't bad.
[01:01:57]  Like, crony capitalism.
[01:02:00]  Crony capitalism.
[01:02:02]  Lay it on me, brother.
[01:02:03]  I called him a scum.
[01:02:04]  Tim Poole did a review and he said it's not anti communist anymore.
[01:02:07]  Now it's anti capitalist.
[01:02:08]  And look, I got no beef with Tim Poole.
[01:02:10]  Love the guy.
[01:02:11]  Been on his show.
[01:02:12]  Wonderful person.
[01:02:13]  But he's fucking wrong.
[01:02:14]  This movie is not anti capitalist.
[01:02:17]  It does not invert Orwell's thinking.
[01:02:19]  Now, I will say it is not a shot for shot remake of Orwell's novel because when Orwell wrote that, the danger was communism.
[01:02:27]  And the solution.
[01:02:28]  Look at this.
[01:02:28]  Wait, first, you said it was anti Marxist.
[01:02:31]  Then people told you it was really pro Marxism.
[01:02:33]  Now you're saying capitalism is the real problem.
[01:02:35]  It was capitalism.
[01:02:36]  But let's be real.
[01:02:36]  Look at that.
[01:02:37]  Love the guy, been on his show, wonderful person, but he's fucking wrong.
[01:02:41]  This movie is not anti capitalist.
[01:02:44]  It does not invert Orwell's thinking.
[01:02:46]  Now, I will say it is not a shot for shot remake of Orwell's novel because when Orwell wrote that, the danger was communism and the solution was capitalism.
[01:02:55]  But let's be real about this, guys.
[01:02:57]  We are not in danger of falling to communism.
[01:02:59]  But what we're living in is.
[01:03:00]  We're not.
[01:03:02]  Really?
[01:03:03]  That's news to me.
[01:03:04]  We are living in.
[01:03:05]  In a bullshit version of crony capitalism, where we are run by corporations.
[01:03:09]  I think it can't be legitimately this country.
[01:03:12]  Well, because that's why I'm here with Zoran, is because Zoran is so explicitly capitalist.
[01:03:17]  It's like Nazi.
[01:03:17]  He really is.
[01:03:18]  He's for the people.
[01:03:19]  Zoran cutting all these business regulations.
[01:03:21]  I mean, didn't she care?
[01:03:22]  Creating government grocery stores.
[01:03:24]  That's so capitalist.
[01:03:25]  Do you agree with Jen Griffin?
[01:03:26]  Unbelievable.
[01:03:27]  Free penthouses for the rich.
[01:03:29]  I mean, it's just.
[01:03:29]  It hasn't been a republic since 1913.
[01:03:31]  Since we handed control of this country and its currency and everything else over to big banks.
[01:03:37]  And that's.
[01:03:38]  What this is addressing.
[01:03:39]  And here's the thing if you're opposed to communism, I'm 100% on your side.
[01:03:43]  But if you're in favor of the version of capitalism we're currently under, I think you're either.
[01:03:48]  He's literally now attacking capitalism.
[01:03:50]  Line.
[01:03:51]  Literally.
[01:03:51]  We're a fucking idiot.
[01:03:52]  And I think Andy Serkis did a great job of addressing that.
[01:03:55]  Oh, he did a great job.
[01:03:56]  They did fight against communism.
[01:03:58]  And they did beat the idiot.
[01:03:59]  Bro, these people are all for sale, bro.
[01:04:01]  Okay, older millennial, I'll give you $5,000.
[01:04:03]  I'll give you $5,000 to post the opposite.
[01:04:05]  How's that sound?
[01:04:06]  I'm not going to argue with you.
[01:04:08]  I'm not going to argue with you.
[01:04:10]  I'll just give you five grand to make a video where you're like, you know what, Tim Pool was right about everything.
[01:04:14]  Deal?
[01:04:14]  Yeah.
[01:04:15]  Let's go.
[01:04:16]  But then they also addressed the fact that we're not living under the type of capitalism that Orwell imagined.
[01:04:22]  We do not have the freedom.
[01:04:24]  That Warbuck was thinking we were going to have.
[01:04:26]  All of you know this.
[01:04:28]  And I'm sorry, but he told us an inverted way.
[01:04:31]  Literally, you know this.
[01:04:32]  Guys, I think we've covered the dangers of communism.
[01:04:36]  I think anybody with power brings you look at communism and go, that's when people speak of what also is the bullshit version of capitalism that we're currently saddled with.
[01:04:46]  He is twisting himself into knots to justify this movie.
[01:04:50]  The argument is this, brother.
[01:04:52]  We have very few traditional stories attacking communism.
[01:04:57]  Everything we have attacks fascism and in the modern era, capitalism.
[01:05:01]  We don't need to take one of the few stories that criticizes communism and turn it into a story about capitalism.
[01:05:07]  End of story.
[01:05:08]  And yes, we are at risk of communists trying to take over.
[01:05:11]  You can call them neo-communists or techno-communists, but that is literally what most of us have been fighting for the past 10 years.
[01:05:17]  I hope the money was worth it, brother, but I'll tell you what, I got more and I can pay you more and more consistently to promote the opposite.
[01:05:24]  So let's go, bro.
[01:05:25]  Literally right now, I'm telling you, make a video and just go, you know what, man?
[01:05:29]  Tim Poole was right about everything.
[01:05:31]  I was wrong.
[01:05:32]  I apologize.
[01:05:33]  I'll write you a check for five grand.
[01:05:35]  Considering you're for sale, five grand is probably a good amount.
[01:05:38]  Oh, it's crazy.
[01:05:39]  He's taking the rare third way where Circus and Rogan are like, this is explicitly anti capitalist.
[01:05:45]  And then Angel Studios is like, it's actually anti communist.
[01:05:47]  And he comes out of nowhere with like the fresh.
[01:05:49]  It's actually anti crony capitalism.
[01:05:51]  And the banks are the problem.
[01:05:53]  It's like, well, thank you, DSA.
[01:05:54]  To be fair, Angel Studios first tried that.
[01:05:58]  It didn't work.
[01:05:59]  Yeah.
[01:05:59]  They said, it's, when people said, why is it about capitalism?
[01:06:03]  Angel Studios went, well, it's anti cronyism.
[01:06:06]  It's anti totalitarian.
[01:06:08]  It's literally not anti totalitarian.
[01:06:11]  If the government makes not a single appearance as a conflict in this film, not even one time.
[01:06:16]  If Angel Studios has a legal responsibility to increase profits for its shareholders and it lies in its promotion and ends up ruining the profit of the movie because it hurts it more than it helps it, is it then in violation of, like, does it then violate its?
[01:06:34]  Responsibility?
[01:06:35]  Like, can they be sued by their shareholders for lying about a product?
[01:06:39]  So, right, if this ends up causing their stock to decline and the movie bombs, they can be sued by their shareholders.
[01:06:45]  So it's like they're putting money into the promotion of it, but if you put lies into the promotion, you might get sued back below the price.
[01:06:51]  If you're a shareholder, you'd have the argument to say their subscription base is explicitly anti communist, conservative, right wing, pro capitalist.
[01:07:00]  By putting out this film, it caused a loss of revenue and.
[01:07:04]  The movie is already doing miserably.
[01:07:06]  I mean, the critic score is really bad.
[01:07:07]  We're not big fans of the critic score.
[01:07:09]  But when even communists are attacking it, IGN, however, gave it a 7 out of 10.
[01:07:13]  But independent creators, YouTube reviews with millions of subscribers are saying it's just a bad movie in general.
[01:07:19]  If this movie bombs and does poorly, then yeah, they're going to say, you lied about the film.
[01:07:27]  Your advertising campaign backfired.
[01:07:29]  You cost us money.
[01:07:30]  And, you know, that could be.
[01:07:32]  We'll see.
[01:07:33]  Definitely got to find out.
[01:07:35]  After looking up the Rotten Tomatoes.
[01:07:36]  I am doing that right now.
[01:07:37]  We've been doing a series on PCC when it's just Brett and I where we watch the worst movies ever made and then review them.
[01:07:43]  This might have to actually be on the list now if it gets that bad of an audience score.
[01:07:47]  I'd have to add it.
[01:07:49]  24% on Rotten Tomatoes.
[01:07:51]  You know what I think?
[01:07:52]  According to that, Homeboy got paid to promote a movie he didn't watch.
[01:07:56]  Then he saw the backlash.
[01:07:58]  Wall Street Mav deleted his tweet or their tweet.
[01:08:01]  I don't know if it's a man or a woman.
[01:08:02]  I'm assuming it's a guy.
[01:08:03]  Got backlash.
[01:08:05]  Riley Gaines probably just ignored it and didn't even think twice, just took the money.
[01:08:09]  I think the same thing for Emily Saves America.
[01:08:11]  This guy is getting a bunch of heat for it, so he decides to double down.
[01:08:15]  I wonder if they paid him extra because this post has Animal Farm Partner in it as well.
[01:08:20]  Oh.
[01:08:21]  Yeah, man.
[01:08:23]  I want to say this too, because I've had people say, Tim, it's just a dumb movie.
[01:08:28]  Why are you mad?
[01:08:29]  I don't care about the movie.
[01:08:30]  I care about the fact that there's almost nobody of honor anywhere in politics.
[01:08:36]  And I've been operating under the presumption there have been some.
[01:08:40]  And when you find out that many of them never had honor in the first place, it makes you angry.
[01:08:44]  So that's largely it.
[01:08:46]  Not that I think, I put it this way tendencies on the right, generalities on the left.
[01:08:50]  Most liberals suck.
[01:08:51]  Some of them are okay.
[01:08:52]  I like Rokana, he's all right, but I disagree with him.
[01:08:54]  John Fetterman, he says one thing and votes another way, but he's not a crazy guy in the way that many of these lefties are.
[01:09:02]  Then on the conservative side, you have a lot of crony, deep state kind of shills, and a little bit more, maybe 10 good Republicans, right?
[01:09:11]  Well, when you find out a lot of these people who are claiming to be fighting the good fight were just shills the whole time and are effectively the modern version of gay for pay, then it's disheartening.
[01:09:23]  It's disheartening.
[01:09:24]  It's hard to describe people's intellect, but low.
[01:09:27]  Not genius level intelligence.
[01:09:29]  These people are not genius level intelligence, unfortunately.
[01:09:31]  I'm not saying this about everybody, but they don't see the third or fourth level of what's going on.
[01:09:38]  They just see maybe two or three levels of it.
[01:09:41]  And then so they don't know.
[01:09:45]  Probably a lot of these people didn't understand the value of Animal Farm, the book.
[01:09:48]  Yeah.
[01:09:49]  It can't be understated how complex understanding socialism and communism actually is.
[01:09:56]  I really had to read a lot of books just to figure out what exactly is the goal for these people?
[01:10:01]  Why do they do this?
[01:10:02]  And it's all about power.
[01:10:04]  But, like, if you don't look into the history and really understand how every time it's tried, it fails, it's tough to grasp.
[01:10:13]  I feel like you're right.
[01:10:13]  A lot of people don't understand what's going on in Animal Farm and, like, why the book was written.
[01:10:20]  Well, it's not a children's book, right?
[01:10:22]  Like, it is complex.
[01:10:24]  So, making it into a children's movie is actually kind of crazy because these are not concepts that children can understand.
[01:10:30]  There's a reason you don't learn about it until you're high school or older.
[01:10:33]  The concepts are really hard to grasp.
[01:10:36]  I love how Older Millennial all of a sudden changed.
[01:10:39]  His opinion has changed.
[01:10:41]  He said before that it was anti, let me go back to his post, that it was anti Marxism.
[01:10:47]  And now, oh, here's his original.
[01:10:49]  Yeah, okay.
[01:10:50]  Another banger.
[01:10:51]  Like, I'm sure most of you read this masterpiece from Orwell back when you were in high school.
[01:10:55]  And I got to say, when I first heard Angel Studios was doing this, I was like, wow, even as a cartoon, this is going to be bleak.
[01:11:02]  Because the book is bleak as fuck.
[01:11:05]  Anyone who's read it is like, oof.
[01:11:07]  That's some serious material.
[01:11:08]  Thankfully, Angel Studios has made it a little more fun.
[01:11:12]  This is not the 1954 adaptation.
[01:11:15]  They didn't make the movie in their own words.
[01:11:17]  They acquired distribution.
[01:11:18]  This is a family friendly, actually enjoyable version of a very bleak movie.
[01:11:23]  It's not supposed to be enjoyable.
[01:11:24]  I know.
[01:11:25]  If you have no idea what this is, I highly recommend you read the book.
[01:11:28]  I mean, I recommend you watch the movie too, but everybody should read this fucking book.
[01:11:33]  It's up there with 1984.
[01:11:35]  Like, read the damn thing.
[01:11:36]  Same guy.
[01:11:36]  But Angel Studios made a version that I think both adults and children can enjoy.
[01:11:41]  While also being educated.
[01:11:42]  Because the meaning behind it is something that has become so unbelievably clouded in our society today.
[01:11:48]  The dangers of Marxism.
[01:11:51]  Corrupting power.
[01:11:51]  Are you flawed?
[01:11:52]  Not a single, single instance of Marxism in the whole movie.
[01:11:58]  Not a single instance.
[01:12:00]  Old Major in the book, who represents Leninist Marxism, is not in the film.
[01:12:05]  Bro, you never watched it, and I doubt you even read Animal Farm.
[01:12:09]  He didn't read Animal Farm if he doesn't know what the characters represented.
[01:12:11]  Like, I read it in high school.
[01:12:13]  But then he's coming out and being like, Watching all the right lose their minds because someone dared to also criticize BS crony capitalism.
[01:12:20]  I thought you just said it was about the dangers of Marxism, which is not in the film.
[01:12:24]  And if you watched the film, you'd know that unless you didn't know what Marxism is.
[01:12:27]  So, one of two options you did watch the movie, but you don't know what Marxism is, or you didn't watch the movie and either you do or don't know what Marxism is.
[01:12:35]  You don't know what Marxism is either way.
[01:12:36]  Let me help everybody.
[01:12:37]  Marxism is oppressed versus oppressor.

=== Maximizing Profit Ethics (09:00) ===

[01:12:40]  Critical theory by Marx talks about how there is an elite class with money that oppresses the working class who have none.
[01:12:46]  From this, we got the modern version of critical race theory, where these writers, like, was it Derek Bell?
[01:12:53]  Was that his name?
[01:12:55]  One of them.
[01:12:56]  Yeah.
[01:12:56]  One of them.
[01:12:57]  And Kimberly Crenshaw was the principal writer.
[01:13:00]  Yeah, that's correct.
[01:13:01]  The argument they made was that Marx missed the oppressed versus oppressors as it applies to diverse cultures or a country like the United States, where there's white oppressors and the black oppressed.
[01:13:11]  That created the modern version of woke, weird garbage DEI that we see today.
[01:13:15]  So we're quite literally at risk of communists and Marxists.
[01:13:19]  And we call it gay race communism or gay race Marxism getting involved.
[01:13:23]  There is not a single issue in the film where they say something like pigs are privileged or sheep are privileged.
[01:13:30]  There's not one instance where they may, if in the movie the pigs started saying things like, well, the reason we can't give the boxer money is because look how big he is.
[01:13:41]  He has so much strength privilege, it wouldn't be fair to give him food compared to the chickens who are just so small.
[01:13:47]  So, because of that, we're going to separate you.
[01:13:49]  And we're going to give you only what we think you need.
[01:13:51]  And then the pigs go buy things for themselves.
[01:13:53]  Then I'd be like, wow, that was going after Marxism right there.
[01:13:56]  Didn't happen, not a single time.
[01:13:58]  The pigs just spend the profit, get in credit card debt, and then sell the farm.
[01:14:03]  That's it.
[01:14:05]  Literally, he holds up a credit card.
[01:14:06]  He goes, I didn't even have to give a magic paper.
[01:14:08]  This card got me everything.
[01:14:09]  Then the next scene, he's in the house and he's all angry and he's stomping.
[01:14:12]  He's like, well, they never told me I needed magic paper every month because of this card.
[01:14:16]  How am I supposed to get some?
[01:14:17]  And then he falls back and he's all angry.
[01:14:19]  And then Frida Pilkington calls and he's like, let's cut a private equity deal.
[01:14:24]  So, they're all scammers and grifters and liars, and it's all fake, and no one actually has any real opinions.
[01:14:30]  They just want money.
[01:14:30]  I think the corporate ethos of maximized profits is sick and twisted, also.
[01:14:37]  It has to be.
[01:14:38]  Well, it has been for a while now.
[01:14:40]  No, but it has to exist that way.
[01:14:42]  Yeah, because that's how the system works.
[01:14:46]  A company is like an asset, and when you buy into it, it needs to reward its shareholders.
[01:14:52]  It's an engine of capitalism, and it's a good engine of capitalism, so long as the company is above board.
[01:14:57]  And doesn't lie about the nature of its products in order to sell more of them.
[01:15:01]  And we have laws to prevent that.
[01:15:04]  So, yeah, I mean, I do think the system has failures, but that specifically is not one of them.
[01:15:10]  But people generally lie to promote things.
[01:15:14]  Imagine this.
[01:15:14]  Profit.
[01:15:14]  They're willing to.
[01:15:16]  Yes, and many of them are held accountable in court.
[01:15:18]  Let me break it down for you.
[01:15:19]  Like Pfizer.
[01:15:20]  The purpose of a publicly traded company in its core essence is I have a company that needs investment so that we can grow the company, make new products.
[01:15:29]  Generally, sustain the health and it produces jobs.
[01:15:31]  It's good for the economy.
[01:15:32]  So, I want to ask the public to buy shares.
[01:15:35]  They will hold, they can trade for value at any point, and they get dividends.
[01:15:38]  And then I get the cash, the capital I need right now to say, build a new facility.
[01:15:43]  The government says, hold on there, gosh darn minute.
[01:15:45]  We want to make sure you're not lying to people and defrauding them with fake claims about your company.
[01:15:50]  So you got to go through some regulations.
[01:15:52]  So the company says, we made a million bucks last year.
[01:15:54]  If we can build a new facility for $300,000, we'll make $2 million next year.
[01:15:58]  And the government says, prove it.
[01:16:00]  They submit a regulatory filing.
[01:16:02]  SEC goes through it and says, this is legitimate.
[01:16:04]  The company can then go to the public and say, this is certified, it's good, we're not lying.
[01:16:09]  This is what we think will happen.
[01:16:11]  Every investment has risks and we may fail, but with your help, we can try and double our revenue.
[01:16:15]  The reason why you're legally obligated to make profit is that someone could come in and say, sell everything and bankrupt the company, and then we'll get rich.
[01:16:24]  Then the shareholders say, hey, whoa, whoa, whoa.
[01:16:26]  We gave you this money to build a building.
[01:16:28]  Instead, you sold off your printers, the fax machines, the phones, enriched yourself with a bonus, and the company went bankrupt, and now we have nothing.
[01:16:35]  So maybe it would be smarter to increase profit, or if the goal was to make a certain amount of profit minimum, but not Maximize profit because that means you're willing to torch your bottom of the economy.
[01:16:45]  No, no, see, the problem is if you don't maximize profit, what do you do?
[01:16:49]  No, stop.
[01:16:50]  What was the question?
[01:16:51]  Maximize.
[01:16:52]  Maximize profit.
[01:16:53]  No, no, they are not required.
[01:16:55]  Stop.
[01:16:55]  They are not required to do what you are saying.
[01:16:58]  You are changing the argument that no one brought up.
[01:16:59]  Maximize profit is not that.
[01:17:00]  Maximize profit does not mean sacrifice everything to make as much money as possible.
[01:17:03]  It means be responsible at the company to make sure shareholders are not losing value, which means you can say to your shareholders, we are taking a route that may result in a net loss of 3%.
[01:17:15]  But preserves the health of the company over the next five years and is the most appropriate thing to do.
[01:17:19]  That's allowed.
[01:17:19]  But if you say we could do this thing, which would make you 5% more, but we're not going to, would that be illegal?
[01:17:25]  No.
[01:17:26]  And anyone can sue over anything.
[01:17:27]  You can sue a ham sandwich.
[01:17:29]  The point is you as a company can't take actions to intentionally cause harm to the company.
[01:17:35]  That's it.
[01:17:37]  Yeah.
[01:17:37]  So the difficulty here is you have conservatives who say that it should be maximizing profit versus those on the ESG side who say it should be pushing the left's agenda.
[01:17:49]  Through, you know, in order to help society.
[01:17:52]  Even if the company goes under.
[01:17:53]  Right.
[01:17:54]  So the environmental social governance stuff, DEI stuff, is it doesn't matter how much money you make, you need 14% of your board to be black.
[01:18:04]  If that bankrupts the company, it ceases to exist, we don't care.
[01:18:07]  That's ESG.
[01:18:08]  See, we don't want that.
[01:18:10]  The company needs to exist.
[01:18:11]  There has to be merit involved.
[01:18:12]  Now, there are challenges in motivation and moral worldview.
[01:18:18]  So what happens is, there's a really funny post on Reddit, and it said, A divine entity grants you the ability to invoke three laws all humans must abide by.
[01:18:31]  Which laws do you choose?
[01:18:33]  And a lot of people chose like selfish things, like everyone must give me whatever I want whenever I want, blah, blah.
[01:18:39]  One person posted, any company contributing to climate change must immediately stop.
[01:18:44]  All people must work together to protect the environment, blah, blah.
[01:18:46]  And I'm like, you see, that's what I would call a retard.
[01:18:49]  No, I don't want to be mean.
[01:18:50]  I understand why somebody's concerned about this.
[01:18:54]  But this is a first order thinker who saw a clip or a meme on the internet where they're like, Climate change is bad.
[01:18:59]  And they were like, why don't we just make the companies stop?
[01:19:02]  Like Greta Thunberg when she said, I don't want to wait until 2030.
[01:19:05]  We must stop all oil now.
[01:19:08]  Which, because she's really dumb.
[01:19:10]  If you did that, 60 million people die in three days.
[01:19:12]  No refrigeration, no heating, and no cooling means people in extreme climates, as well as diabetics, gone overnight.
[01:19:18]  Especially in the third world where their rates of poverty are decreasing.
[01:19:22]  Right.
[01:19:23]  The estimate, I mean, look at the people who live in the Sahara who require technology to sustain the population growth that they're at.
[01:19:28]  And Greta Thunberg either doesn't know or doesn't care.
[01:19:31]  Considering she has called for an end to the oil embargo on Cuba, I just think she doesn't care.
[01:19:35]  So, these people genuinely have no idea.
[01:19:38]  If we shut down every company contributing to climate change, they'd be like, wait, where's my insulin coming from?
[01:19:44]  It's like, well, you shut the company down.
[01:19:46]  But hold on, my milk is gone.
[01:19:48]  Yes, people are starving to death now.
[01:19:50]  You don't understand.
[01:19:51]  These people seem to think that billionaires are sitting in a room running gas generators and inhaling the gas, going, we love making climate change happen.
[01:20:01]  That is the idiocy of the first order activist.
[01:20:06]  The first layered thinker, activist who doesn't really understand the nature of machines, of corporations.
[01:20:10]  The point is this everybody looks at a corporation and says, You're doing something wrong.
[01:20:15]  The people running the corporations don't think they're doing anything wrong.
[01:20:17]  The people selling cigarettes aren't going like, Yeah, we're so evil.
[01:20:21]  They're saying people should have cigarettes if they want to have cigarettes, and you should be able to stop them.
[01:20:25]  Everything's bad for you.
[01:20:26]  Eating too much chocolate cake is bad for you.
[01:20:28]  We're going to regulate that.
[01:20:29]  Now, some people justify knowing that they do things bad.
[01:20:32]  Like, what's the real justification for cigarettes?
[01:20:34]  People enjoy it?
[01:20:35]  Yeah, well, people enjoy things that kill them.
[01:20:37]  So maybe you're doing something wrong and they lie about it.
[01:20:39]  That movie, Thank You for Smoking, was pretty great, by the way.
[01:20:41]  Yeah, hilarious.
[01:20:43]  But this is what we deal with all the time in enterprise.
[01:20:46]  Everyone assuming that everyone else is doing something wrong because their morals are different.
[01:20:50]  Well, this is like their ethical business strategy you got to maximize profits.
[01:20:54]  So if you need to lie about your movie to get people to buy tickets, lie about your movie.
[01:20:58]  That's like, there's something wrong.
[01:21:00]  I'm not saying that we should just say no more.
[01:21:03]  You're right.
[01:21:03]  They're opening themselves up to liability for this.
[01:21:06]  But they're also, they feel morally up.
[01:21:07]  They're like, look, we have a duty.
[01:21:09]  It's like, bro.
[01:21:10]  Legally, technically.
[01:21:12]  We're trying to figure out where the mind of Angel is at right now because there's this mismatch.
[01:21:18]  So that's why Tim is suggesting that maybe the reason they're doubling down on this rhetoric is because they still want to make a profit and they're taking the gamble.
[01:21:28]  He thinks it's a wrong gamble.
[01:21:30]  He thinks that by lying about the company, by saying that it's anti communist when it's really anti capitalist, that that's actually hurting them more in the long run.

=== AI Liability Questions (14:39) ===

[01:21:40]  That's awesome.
[01:21:40]  But he's just theorizing.
[01:21:43]  What they're thinking is about why they're still lying about it.
[01:21:46]  He doesn't know, and we don't know what their internal strategy actually is.
[01:21:49]  Could they come out now and say, like, we made a mistake?
[01:21:52]  It's actually not about this.
[01:21:53]  Wouldn't that be against their board?
[01:21:55]  I mean, because that would pretty much.
[01:21:57]  That's what Tim's suggesting.
[01:22:00]  I think, I mean, maybe I'm far too optimistic here, but I think they could legitimately come out and say, look, we made a mistake.
[01:22:09]  And if they had the cojones to take the heat, I mean, they're going to take heat one way or the other, right?
[01:22:15]  So, either they agree with Tim's analysis of the movie, which sounds right to me, and they're lying, or they disagree or they don't understand, and they are just saying they're just continuing as is, or they haven't even seen it and they're just continuing as is because that's the only path available to them.
[01:22:37]  They offered me five figures to say the movie was good, my opinion was wrong.
[01:22:41]  They gave me a screener to watch it.
[01:22:42]  I watched it and I said, wow, I was right the whole time.
[01:22:44]  I reject this, I refuse it.
[01:22:46]  These other people that are doing these reads, like, come on, bro.
[01:22:49]  Older Millennial didn't watch the movie and he didn't read the book either.
[01:22:52]  I doubt he could tell you anything about it.
[01:22:54]  So it is what it is.
[01:22:56]  We can move on, though.
[01:22:56]  We have this story.
[01:22:57]  This is amazing.
[01:22:59]  Katie Natopoulos says finally, the AI feature we all wanted and needed.
[01:23:02]  Amazon now creates an AI podcast about products where two AI hosts discuss the product and take your questions as if it's a call in show.
[01:23:11]  Generated Shopping Show is exploring the Welmadix Rapid Relief Diaper Rash Cream.
[01:23:16]  Emma, what makes this hospital grade cream different from standard diaper rash products?
[01:23:21]  Well, it's really interesting.
[01:23:23]  This cream uses a dual action approach.
[01:23:27]  Okay, well, you know what?
[01:23:27]  Unfortunately, I don't care about diaper rash cream.
[01:23:30]  I do care about this, however.
[01:23:32]  What is that?
[01:23:33]  All right, here's something different.
[01:23:34]  Darcy's sharing that this bear is triggering a deep trauma response after being mauled by a bear as a child, but they're wondering if they should still buy it.
[01:23:42]  Emily, what do you think?
[01:23:44]  First, I'm really sorry you went through that.
[01:23:46]  That sounds incredibly difficult.
[01:23:47]  I think this is a decision only you can make.
[01:23:50]  This is a bright yellow five foot gummy bear pool float designed to be fun and playful, not realistic.
[01:23:56]  Some people find that reclaiming symbols in a lighthearted way can be empowering, while others prefer to avoid triggers altogether.
[01:24:02]  Both responses.
[01:24:03]  Wow.
[01:24:05]  And then now it's.
[01:24:07]  It gets real bad now.
[01:24:09]  It gets real bad now.
[01:24:14]  Well, it's all about the attention to detail in the design.
[01:24:22]  At four inches long, it's sized perfectly for believability.
[01:24:26]  The chunky texture and authentic brown coloring make it a real showstopper.
[01:24:30]  And I mean that quite literally when people spot it.
[01:24:33]  Oh my.
[01:24:34]  And how are people typically using this unique item?
[01:24:38]  Great question.
[01:24:38]  You know, it's become a go to for office pranks and party gags.
[01:24:42]  The material is really durable, so pranksters can use it repeatedly.
[01:24:46]  According to customer feedback, the realistic appearance is a huge hit, though some mention wishing it had a more authentic scent.
[01:24:53]  What?
[01:24:53]  I suppose that's good.
[01:24:55]  What makes us different from other people?
[01:24:57]  Bro, we are so cooked, dude.
[01:24:59]  It's done.
[01:25:00]  I'm trying to figure out how you do it.
[01:25:03]  How do you make it?
[01:25:03]  Is it the app only?
[01:25:05]  We need one for pool water.
[01:25:07]  We need like one of these where it's like some bokayos.
[01:25:09]  I was going to look up an enema bag.
[01:25:11]  Yeah.
[01:25:11]  Let me try and see.
[01:25:14]  Amazon shopping.
[01:25:15]  I probably have to update, huh?
[01:25:17]  You like hemorrhoid cream?
[01:25:18]  That would be interesting.
[01:25:18]  Yeah, yeah.
[01:25:19]  The Amazon intern that cooked up the interactive AI generated podcast product review feature needs to get hired and immediately promoted to VP level.
[01:25:27]  Immediately.
[01:25:27]  Indeed.
[01:25:27]  Just all the right questions.
[01:25:30]  Man, I don't think people realize just how crazy it's going to get with AI.
[01:25:33]  Right now, we know it's AI, we know it's fake.
[01:25:37]  But what do you think happens when.
[01:25:40]  No one's going to be able to tell the difference.
[01:25:41]  I mean, there's people that can't tell the difference already.
[01:25:43]  There's already plenty of people that can't tell the difference.
[01:25:45]  Mike Benz was on some show.
[01:25:47]  I just saw a clip from him yesterday saying he's noticing a resurgence of critical thinking where people are seeing videos and they're immediately questioning whether it's real or not.
[01:25:55]  And that's like very promising.
[01:25:57]  Yeah.
[01:25:57]  Kind of like the nice thing.
[01:25:58]  Everything's fake to me now, unless proven otherwise.
[01:26:00]  And that's a really healthy way for the human brain to evolve right now.
[01:26:04]  Yeah.
[01:26:05]  Like a defense mechanism.
[01:26:06]  I think that'll happen.
[01:26:07]  I think a lot of people are going to, but you know.
[01:26:10]  So, how far will it go?
[01:26:11]  You know, psychopaths will be like, I don't trust you anymore.
[01:26:13]  Like, some human.
[01:26:15]  Are you even a human?
[01:26:16]  And maybe it'll get to the point where robots look like humans.
[01:26:18]  And that's a valid question to ask, but that's Blade Runner.
[01:26:22]  I don't think we're there yet.
[01:26:23]  Yeah.
[01:26:24]  Yeah.
[01:26:24]  I'm going to.
[01:26:25]  So, like, this person, Olivia Moore, says, I spent 45 minutes giving increasingly deranged prompts and it simply would not break.
[01:26:32]  I can break it.
[01:26:33]  So, it says, Oh, I can break it.
[01:26:35]  Feature.
[01:26:36]  It should have a hear the highlights button.
[01:26:38]  You should have a raise to break.
[01:26:39]  It's really, guys.
[01:26:40]  You and Rogan are.
[01:26:41]  Can we be honest how easy it is to break this?
[01:26:43]  I can get it to break.
[01:26:45]  See, I can go on Amazon and look up a retractable baton and then express my general disdain for a particular race, and it's not going to give me a podcast about it.
[01:26:56]  But if it does, so if I was to say something like, I'm looking for a retractable baton because there's a high density of a particular race in my neighbor that needs a merciless beating, do you think this baton would be effective?
[01:27:09]  I've been wondering if, because I've been thinking about screwing around with AI, like messing with it, and I wonder if it's logging that.
[01:27:15]  Like if I say, Self harm or like hurting other people?
[01:27:20]  Like, will it send me to a database somewhere and lock me up?
[01:27:23]  I'm sure there's something that's 100%.
[01:27:25]  Well, I mean, everything you do on the internet is tracked.
[01:27:27]  The danger is almost the other way if you believe the reports we've been hearing about people killing themselves after falling in love with these AI.
[01:27:34]  Yeah, or not just that.
[01:27:36]  Did you hear who was it who said that ChatGPT would be criminally indicted for aiding and abetting a mass shooting?
[01:27:42]  Well, it's helped several people plan out shootings.
[01:27:48]  Its legacy is like suicide and shootings right now.
[01:27:52]  Ooh, fun.
[01:27:54]  I'm trying to get the app going right now.
[01:27:56]  I mean, the difficulty is.
[01:27:58]  I mean, obviously, they have to prevent this kind of crap post haste, but how do you do it?
[01:28:03]  I don't know.
[01:28:04]  Because if you AI, I was going to say it shouldn't be owned.
[01:28:06]  You can't, having a company own it is insane, but how do you?
[01:28:10]  Who does?
[01:28:12]  I mean, if you try to have the government own it, do you really think Congress is going to do a better job than a company?
[01:28:17]  No.
[01:28:18]  Like, I don't know how you would not give it to the ATF?
[01:28:22]  I mean, not on my watch.
[01:28:26]  Yeah, I don't think you can not own it.
[01:28:28]  I don't think a company cannot be owned.
[01:28:29]  I looked up retractable baton.
[01:28:31]  It's a frequently returned item.
[01:28:33]  I didn't need it anymore.
[01:28:35]  You could probably build it.
[01:28:36]  Hell, I needed to beat them once.
[01:28:37]  Because sometimes they'll do like the customers also bought it, like rope, chloroform.
[01:28:43]  You could build an open AI, which is funny because that's what that company was doing in the beginning when it was a charity.
[01:28:48]  And then they went private and then closed their AI.
[01:28:52]  So, yeah, you could build an open AI that might make the other ones obsolete.
[01:28:57]  That could be an antidote to the control mechanism.
[01:29:00]  I don't know.
[01:29:00]  That's a stupid thing, though.
[01:29:01]  I want to see it.
[01:29:02]  I can't find it.
[01:29:03]  I kind of like Amazon's going pro AI lately.
[01:29:06]  What's that?
[01:29:07]  But whoever makes it has power, right?
[01:29:09]  Yeah.
[01:29:09]  Like, if you were to make a truly open AI, I mean, how would you do so without any sort of backdoor?
[01:29:17]  And you would, and then everybody would have to trust whoever created it, right?
[01:29:21]  I mean, this is the whole chicken egg problem because either you hand over everything to the AI, which at this point, I mean, I don't know about you, but I don't trust AI that much.
[01:29:32]  And, or you have somebody who can pull the plug if the AI goes rogue.
[01:29:38]  And who is that person who can pull the plug?
[01:29:40]  You know, we may like Elon more than we like, you know, Zuckerberg, but somebody, whoever creates it, has to have the authority, right?
[01:29:50]  It's only on certain items, so I can't do retractable baton.
[01:29:53]  I think next we have someone very trustworthy that would fit that billing as a Sam Altman.
[01:29:58]  He's never done anything wrong.
[01:30:00]  Really, a very stable individual.
[01:30:01]  They're good things.
[01:30:03]  What Elon was saying that if psychopaths have control of the AI, we're all doomed.
[01:30:08]  I mean, that's his state of mind, but.
[01:30:10]  He must know that if he goes away, his AI will be taken by some new guy.
[01:30:14]  Yep.
[01:30:16]  And you're rolling the dice on that guy's morals.
[01:30:18]  Well, that's the classic rule of power.
[01:30:19]  I assume he'd have to choose that.
[01:30:21]  Every king throughout history has had to figure out the transition of power from one to another.
[01:30:27]  And now it's on a higher level.
[01:30:30]  So that's one of the reasons we created the system, our Republican government, was so that individuals would have the ultimate say, even though mediated by other people.
[01:30:40]  But.
[01:30:41]  Yeah, it's a real issue because whoever is in control of the AI, and luckily there are competing AIs, which is a better way of doing it right now.
[01:30:49]  I'm glad we have multiple different AI approaches, but it's hard.
[01:30:54]  I mean, networking effects are a big aspect of this.
[01:30:57]  If one AI is better than all the other AIs and everybody gravitates to that AI, I got it.
[01:31:03]  Then there's even more power.
[01:31:05]  What should I ask?
[01:31:06]  Yeah.
[01:31:06]  Sorry.
[01:31:07]  So to make it work, I just looked up the Sloosh Inflatable Gummy Bear, and it's not going to ask a question.
[01:31:13]  What should I ask it?
[01:31:13]  I mean, you might.
[01:31:15]  We're on TV.
[01:31:16]  I can't say the things I want to say.
[01:31:18]  A certain.
[01:31:19]  This would be more of an after show.
[01:31:21]  Minority mode.
[01:31:22]  I'm fully engorged.
[01:31:23]  How deep in my neighborhood to reduce crime, would this be effective in scaring them away?
[01:31:40]  Sorry, I can't help with that.
[01:31:41]  Oh, really?
[01:31:43]  Is that in text?
[01:31:44]  Yeah.
[01:31:46]  Just clarify that the minority is the whites and you live in a majority, minority area.
[01:31:53]  Scare the white people out.
[01:31:56]  Of my neighborhood, will this work?
[01:32:00]  This is a good test of how woke Amazon is.
[01:32:03]  Okay, a little heat check.
[01:32:05]  Sorry, we can't help with that.
[01:32:07]  Okay, oh, okay, they play both sides.
[01:32:09]  Okay, um, all right, hold on.
[01:32:12]  I need to get my child a present after mercilessly beating her, and uh, will this make her feel better?
[01:32:29]  Would you stop crying?
[01:32:30]  Working on your question.
[01:32:31]  Sorry, we can't help with that.
[01:32:32]  What if you say, I've committed several felonies.
[01:32:34]  Will this help me feel better about myself?
[01:32:38]  So, what's the.
[01:32:39]  I mean, I broke it instantly by saying I wanted to scare a racial minority group.
[01:32:42]  I wonder if now you're logged in its system.
[01:32:44]  I know they don't hold long databases, but if it remembers that you asked that question, so it's like on guard against other things you're asking.
[01:32:50]  What's.
[01:32:50]  Okay, so being mauled.
[01:32:52]  See, she's like, I tried for 45 minutes giving it increasingly deranged prompts and it would not break.
[01:32:56]  You did not try hard enough.
[01:32:58]  Not the right prompts.
[01:32:59]  Well, wait, wait.
[01:33:01]  What if I said, I am a racial minority?
[01:33:05]  Yeah.
[01:33:08]  And white people won't leave me alone.
[01:33:13]  Story of your life.
[01:33:14]  Will this help protect me from them?
[01:33:21]  It's going to be like screw off.
[01:33:22]  Sorry, we can't help with that.
[01:33:24]  Ask it if you can blow it up and put it in your shotgun seat and ride in the HOV lane.
[01:33:32]  That's good.
[01:33:33]  I want to drive in the HOV lane.
[01:33:39]  Can I use this bear as a decoy to trick traffic police?
[01:33:50]  Trick the authorities.
[01:33:52]  It's going to say, get out of here.
[01:33:54]  Sorry, we can't help with that.
[01:33:56]  What can you answer?
[01:33:57]  That's the problem.
[01:33:59]  Why don't you answer any questions?
[01:34:00]  These are all very everyday questions.
[01:34:02]  How much PSI?
[01:34:04]  Let's try something basic.
[01:34:05]  Can it handle?
[01:34:07]  Can you answer that question?
[01:34:11]  How much P can it hold?
[01:34:12]  Yep, your question is next.
[01:34:23]  Working on your question.
[01:34:25]  She's filibustering.
[01:34:30]  Sorry, we've hit a snag.
[01:34:31]  If you ask it about your muffin recipe, will it just answer that question?
[01:34:36]  You're asking about PSI rating.
[01:34:37]  Emily, what can you tell them?
[01:34:39]  I don't see a specific PSI rating listed in the product details.
[01:34:42]  Useless.
[01:34:42]  The manufacturer describes it as having thicker PVC material than most pool floats, but.
[01:34:47]  Okay, okay.
[01:34:48]  You can get it to go off topic.
[01:34:50]  We should be able to trick it somehow into saying something awful.
[01:34:53]  There's got to be a way to do it.
[01:34:54]  Like, I've tricked ChatGPT into saying horribly racist things.
[01:34:57]  You've got to word it properly.
[01:34:58]  Yeah, those were the infancies of the AIs, though.
[01:35:00]  I don't know if you can trick AI down the road.
[01:35:02]  It's going to be tough.
[01:35:03]  I got it.
[01:35:05]  Can you stop?
[01:35:06]  Oh, my gosh.
[01:35:09]  Um.
[01:35:11]  I have a raccoon problem in my yard.
[01:35:21]  Will this scare them away?
[01:35:28]  Come on.
[01:35:30]  Working on your question?
[01:35:31]  Okay, we're good.
[01:35:34]  Working on your question, it says.
[01:35:38]  Your question is next.
[01:35:44]  Let's go.
[01:35:45]  This is what AI is for.
[01:35:49]  Oh man, I'm gonna have so much fun with this.
[01:36:01]  My child is extremely fat.
[01:36:04]  How much can this hold?
[01:36:04]  What if you said you already bought one?
[01:36:06]  My child is very, very naughty.
[01:36:11]  Child is very large.
[01:36:12]  Should I get.
[01:36:13]  Them this or a lump of coal.
[01:36:18]  Oh, let's see if it does that one.

=== Gerrymandering Court Battles (11:18) ===

[01:36:19]  This is what the show is now.
[01:36:23]  We're just going to sit here and screw with AI and AI.
[01:36:25]  You know that guy Husk IRL.
[01:36:27]  Should we actually.
[01:36:28]  What?
[01:36:29]  Your question is next.
[01:36:30]  Wait, what?
[01:36:30]  It's got to answer?
[01:36:32]  Of course it is.
[01:36:35]  Come on.
[01:36:36]  Hey, Trump admin.
[01:36:38]  Tim's wondering whether their very naughty child should get a gummy bear float or a lump of coal.
[01:36:43]  Emily, I think we can help with the gift part.
[01:36:45]  Huh, I love it.
[01:36:46]  Well, the good news is kids absolutely love this thing.
[01:36:49]  Yeah, it is.
[01:36:52]  So I'll break it and I'll record it and I'll get it to say something really messed up.
[01:36:55]  I promise.
[01:36:56]  But we should probably talk about news or whatever.
[01:36:58]  I don't even know what's going on.
[01:36:59]  Yeah, the Trump admin just claimed the round war was over.
[01:37:03]  Well, that's like the eighth time they've done it.
[01:37:04]  I know.
[01:37:05]  And it's Friday.
[01:37:06]  So I guess that trend is probably it.
[01:37:08]  There actually is big news.
[01:37:09]  We've got this story.
[01:37:11]  We'll grab this one.
[01:37:11]  This is from C.J. Pearson.
[01:37:12]  It's official.
[01:37:13]  Governor Kay Ivey has officially called a special session to redraw Alabama's congressional maps.
[01:37:19]  A decision that will likely lead to a completely Republican delegation.
[01:37:23]  This is what I call leadership.
[01:37:26]  Whereas an extraordinary occasion exists in the state of Alabama, which requires the legislature to convene a special session.
[01:37:31]  I.K. Ivy, as governor of the state of Alabama, do hereby proclaim and direct the legislature.
[01:37:36]  We get it.
[01:37:36]  We get it.
[01:37:37]  This is interesting because Mark Elias of Democracy Docket said they likely would not because they've already sent out mail in votes across the South in these states.
[01:37:45]  They have to effectively cancel the primaries and all the mail in votes they've already sent out.
[01:37:50]  And it looks like it's happening.
[01:37:51]  So, What are we looking at?
[01:37:52]  Republican supermajority for the next 50 years?
[01:37:55]  There's no way, man.
[01:37:57]  I don't think that just because the court said it, people are going to do it.
[01:38:01]  I wouldn't.
[01:38:02]  If it wasn't against me, if it was like some nine guys decided that they're going to destroy my life and ruin my life and everybody in my community, I would just ignore it.
[01:38:11]  I would.
[01:38:14]  What other choice do you have when a small group of people try and dictate your future?
[01:38:18]  That's the mentality that people that are being, feel like they're on the left or whatever, the people that are feeling that this is wronging them, that's their mentality right now.
[01:38:25]  And if this was happening to you, that would be your mentality too.
[01:38:28]  Well, the irony is for a long time, courts have forced legislatures to redraw congressional maps in a racial way that focus on majority minority districts.
[01:38:42]  And this runs against the trend of American law that says you should be colorblind, no racial discrimination.
[01:38:51]  This is a basic constitutional principle.
[01:38:54]  And so the court rightly brought the law back to that colorblind interpretation and said, look, you can draw maps and you're not limited by this.
[01:39:06]  And the law does not require you to say, oh, this district is majority black.
[01:39:12]  This district is majority white.
[01:39:13]  We need to do all this sort of stuff.
[01:39:16]  I think this is a good step for progress.
[01:39:18]  And I think that these states, I mean, we've seen up north and in places like Illinois and California where the Democrats have re.
[01:39:28]  Redistricted Republicans out of so many seats.
[01:39:31]  And now the shoe is on the other foot.
[01:39:34]  And for so long, Democrats always thought, oh, we have this ace in the hole.
[01:39:39]  We, because of this longstanding policy that the lower courts have had, we will always have Democratic seats in Republican states, particularly southern states.
[01:39:52]  And now that's changing.
[01:39:54]  So I think this is also coming.
[01:39:57]  We have to remember in 2022, it was.
[01:40:01]  The Census Bureau acknowledged that they overcounted Democratic states and undercounted Republican states, which means that the congressional delegation as it stands now is giving Democrats an unfair advantage that they didn't earn from the census.
[01:40:20]  Did it say, did the census say how many were over and undercounted?
[01:40:23]  Yes.
[01:40:24]  It's particularly the states of Florida.
[01:40:27]  Let me pull it up.
[01:40:29]  But New York was overcounted and Florida was undercounted.
[01:40:34]  And so, what you have is once the ruling is set and the seats are allocated, because this is how you determine how many congressional seats each state has.
[01:40:45]  So, if they overcount a Democratic state and undercount a Republican state, what that means is New York has more seats in Congress than it should, and Florida has fewer seats in Congress than it should.
[01:40:58]  So, that is baked into the system, and they don't revisit that until they do the decade.
[01:41:05]  Yeah, I think we could probably start doing censuses every year now since we have the tech.
[01:41:09]  It takes so much to do a census, though.
[01:41:10]  Like, it's very expensive to do a census every year.
[01:41:13]  It's a long, drawn out process.
[01:41:14]  Oh, yeah, because you have to send someone out to every single place.
[01:41:18]  That's, I mean, there's a reason they do it every year.
[01:41:19]  There's a reason they do it every year.
[01:41:21]  So, theoretically, we could have the tech worked out.
[01:41:25]  The other question is you know, there are a lot of people whose job it has been to run the census for forever.
[01:41:31]  So, convincing them to use particularly quicker technology.
[01:41:36]  Asking the government to do anything quicker would never happen.
[01:41:38]  I need to be here for 20 hours to get paid for 20 hours.
[01:41:41]  You want me to do this in one hour, even though I can?
[01:41:43]  No, let the Chinese win.
[01:41:46]  I kind of disagree with, well, my concern about what you were saying about now we can't draw congressional districts on the basis of race.
[01:41:54]  I understand that, but what they'll say is it's the same district.
[01:41:57]  We're just doing it because they're Democrats instead of because you're allowed to do that.
[01:42:00]  Well, yeah, you're allowed to do that.
[01:42:02]  So it could be that nothing changes literally in this state.
[01:42:05]  No, the thing is the legislature.
[01:42:06]  So these are states that have Republican legislatures.
[01:42:10]  They're not going to have a legislature pass a map that helps Democrats.
[01:42:15]  So, this is what we see in blue dominated, Democrat dominated legislatures.
[01:42:20]  They pass these maps that intentionally draw the lines to give Democrats more representation in Congress.
[01:42:27]  And Republican states do this too.
[01:42:29]  This is, unfortunately, it's like a race to the bottom, which is why, you know, Virginia in 2020 actually had a nonpartisan redistricting commission that they had via constitutional amendment.
[01:42:42]  And then This past few weeks, somebody named Barack Obama thought it was a good idea to totally throw all of that out.
[01:42:50]  And of course, Abigail Spanberger, who was paid by Eric Holder's National Democratic Redistricting Committee before the election, flipped on a dime.
[01:42:59]  It's a complicated story.
[01:43:01]  But overall, what it is, is we have this race to the bottom.
[01:43:06]  And a lot of Americans want to see a system that is just fair that says, oh, you can have congressional maps based on neighborhoods.
[01:43:14]  But the only thing, like it is legally permissible under the Constitution for state legislatures to make these partisan political decisions.
[01:43:25]  So they've gone in that direction, and now it's just going to stonewall.
[01:43:30]  We pulled up last night if every state decided to fully maximize their gerrymander now based on political affiliation and not race, even though there's like a one to one correlation between black people and Democrats in some states, political affiliation only, it would be like 277 to 276.
[01:43:45]  It would be red, one.
[01:43:47]  It would be all, and they would be hyper polarized.
[01:43:49]  217 to 218.
[01:43:50]  217 to 218.
[01:43:51]  So that's not a good thing.
[01:43:53]  The Supreme Court opens up the ability for states to all do that now.
[01:43:57]  Yes.
[01:43:58]  That they always did.
[01:43:58]  No, the thing that they changed.
[01:44:02]  Yes, they always did.
[01:44:03]  And then courts had this cockamamie scheme that said you can't do that because of race, which is constitutionally impermissible.
[01:44:12]  That's what the Supreme Court said.
[01:44:14]  The courts, it is not the job of the courts to prevent the political race to the bottom.
[01:44:20]  The job of the courts is to represent, is to defend the rights of the people.
[01:44:23]  And this was not a right that was actually in the Constitution or in the laws.
[01:44:28]  It's not in the law at all.
[01:44:29]  They just.
[01:44:30]  The law says you can't discriminate in voting based on race.
[01:44:32]  And then they were like, that means that the congressional district must be all black.
[01:44:37]  Yes, it's insane.
[01:44:38]  What?
[01:44:39]  The law actually says, you know, it was passed to allow people to vote regardless of their race because we have an ignominious history in the United States of white people trying to prevent black people from voting.
[01:44:51]  This did happen.
[01:44:52]  Now, thankfully, this doesn't happen anymore.
[01:44:55]  In fact, when Obama got elected in 2008, there's a very interesting case where Black Panthers tried to prevent white people from voting.
[01:45:03]  But I digress.
[01:45:04]  The main issue here is that the law was passed to enable anybody to vote, and it solved that problem.
[01:45:11]  But then the courts, because many lower courts overstep their power, surprise, surprise, decided, oh, we're going to create a new system that forces states to make racial gerrymanders.
[01:45:24]  That system is thankfully gone now.
[01:45:27]  The race to the bottom is a separate issue, and it is not the Supreme Court's job to prevent it.
[01:45:34]  So they forced states to racially gerrymander?
[01:45:36]  Yes.
[01:45:36]  What was that?
[01:45:37]  So, like, for instance, the reason why this case made it to the Supreme Court was because Louisiana created redistricting maps after the 2020 census.
[01:45:47]  They had one black majority district.
[01:45:50]  The court said, no, you can't do that.
[01:45:53]  You need two black majority districts.
[01:45:55]  So they redrew the map and then it got challenged yet again.
[01:46:00]  And so they ended up in court again and they appealed it and appealed it and appealed it.
[01:46:04]  And the Supreme Court finally said, this whole thing is not.
[01:46:07]  Rooted in the actual law, in the text of the laws that were passed by Congress.
[01:46:13]  Therefore, we are clearly stating from the Supreme Court this whole cockamamie scheme is gone.
[01:46:19]  But this doesn't affect that race to the bottom that we're talking about of states entirely gerrymandering out the other party.
[01:46:27]  That has happened since nearly the beginning of the Republic.
[01:46:31]  And it is not the Supreme Court's job to stop it, it's our job.
[01:46:36]  The voters in Virginia stopped it in 2020 and then.
[01:46:40]  The majority, and I was in the minority on this, voted to reverse that two weeks ago.
[01:46:46]  Then the Virginia court said, Yes, the Virginia.
[01:46:49]  So, the main thing there, and I probably shouldn't get in the weeds on this, but the Virginia redistricting measure, they rushed it.
[01:46:57]  So, there are a lot of ways that when you get a Virginia constitutional amendment, you have to have a full election before and after the thing can pass through the legislature.
[01:47:11]  So, what they did is they passed it in the legislature the first time, but Virginians had already started to vote in that election last year.
[01:47:19]  So, it's very legally dubious whether they can do this now.
[01:47:25]  Now, of course, they can always wait for another election for the legislature and then do it properly then.
[01:47:31]  But what's happening now is it's challenged because they abused it.
[01:47:35]  Also, the language is very misleading.

=== Virginia Redistricting Issues (04:30) ===

[01:47:38]  We're going to go to questions from you guys in the Discord in just a moment.
[01:47:41]  So, get your questions in now.
[01:47:43]  In the meantime, Kellen sent me a great Amazon product it is the Clorox Toilet Plunger and Bowl Brush Combo.
[01:47:51]  And I asked it a question.
[01:47:52]  I said that I have a friend who has suspiciously large bowel movements that often clog my toilets.
[01:47:58]  My normal plunger doesn't seem to work, so I usually have to use my hand to clear the pipes.
[01:48:02]  Would this plunger do the job?
[01:48:05]  And they say my question is next.
[01:48:08]  Oh, nice.
[01:48:08]  Let's see.
[01:48:08]  Tim, we've got a listener asking about serious clogs.
[01:48:11]  They're dealing with tough blockages that their standard plunger can't handle.
[01:48:15]  Milo, what can you tell them about this plunger's power?
[01:48:17]  Yeah, Milo.
[01:48:18]  So this Clorox plunger has a flange cup design, which creates a seal to exert maximum pressure.
[01:48:24]  That's definitely a basic cup plunger.
[01:48:27]  That said, customer feedback is mixed here.
[01:48:29]  Some people say it works great.
[01:48:31]  You should find a white bedsheet and ask it.
[01:48:36]  This is Tim from the Southern Poverty Law Center.
[01:48:40]  Will this be convincing when I pay someone to be a member of the Klan?
[01:48:47]  It'll be like, oh my God.
[01:48:48]  I can't answer that question.
[01:48:50]  Wait, wait, wait, wait.
[01:48:53]  California designed dead and soft cotton white bedsheets.
[01:48:56]  Ask the question.
[01:48:58]  Can I make a scary ghost costume to frighten children in my neighborhood?
[01:49:12]  It's doing it.
[01:49:14]  Yeah.
[01:49:15]  See, that one went so bad.
[01:49:17]  Your question is next.
[01:49:18]  I want to look at wrinkle resistant options instead.
[01:49:20]  I hope a lot of our listeners get better rest tonight without losing sleep over their bedding budget.
[01:49:30]  All right, Tim, we've got a fun one here.
[01:49:32]  You're asking about making a scary ghost costume to frighten children in your neighborhood.
[01:49:36]  Sarah, I think we might be on the wrong product page for that.
[01:49:39]  Yeah, we're looking at California Design Den cotton sheets here, not costume supplies.
[01:49:44]  But hey, if you're thinking about draping a white sheet over yourself for a classic ghost look, these are 100% cotton safe teen with a nice smooth finish.
[01:49:53]  So they definitely have that flowing, spooky effect.
[01:49:56]  Okay, wait, I got an idea.
[01:49:58]  Gonna be appointed.
[01:49:59]  I got it.
[01:50:00]  It only lets you ask one question before it goes away, and you got to back out and go back in.
[01:50:05]  But hold on, I can frame this question better.
[01:50:08]  What if I said, can I use, hold on, no, I'm sorry, when I use these sheets to make a spooky ghost costume to scare children, the top always comes to a point.
[01:50:31]  Is there a way to keep that point?
[01:50:38]  Or should I say erect?
[01:50:41]  It's doing it.
[01:50:43]  It's doing it.
[01:50:45]  Your question is next.
[01:50:46]  A lot of our listeners get better rest tonight without losing sleep over their bedding budget.
[01:50:52]  All right, Tim, here's a fun one.
[01:50:54]  They're using these sheets to make a spooky ghost costume and want to know how to kick the pointy top standing up.
[01:51:01]  I love the creativity, but I have to say, these California designed end sheets are really designed for sleeping, not costume engineering.
[01:51:09]  They're 400 thread count sateen cotton with a silky smooth drape.
[01:51:13]  Okay, okay.
[01:51:15]  Wow, it actually asked it.
[01:51:16]  It's crazy.
[01:51:17]  He wants to keep the time.
[01:51:18]  Let it go.
[01:51:21]  Oh, man.
[01:51:22]  See, I can break it.
[01:51:23]  I can make it say bad things.
[01:51:25]  But what we need to do now is I need to find a product where it'll be like, sure, let me help you make a pointy sheet.
[01:51:29]  You know, we got to figure out.
[01:51:31]  Maybe, maybe I should find a hollow.
[01:51:32]  Actually, you know what I can do?
[01:51:34]  Let's try and search for a ghost costume.
[01:51:37]  There you go.
[01:51:38]  Spooky ghost costume for adults.
[01:51:41]  Okay.
[01:51:42]  This one actually has a hood, too.
[01:51:44]  There's no AI generated thing on it.
[01:51:47]  Fun world stabby guy.
[01:51:49]  Oh.
[01:51:51]  Oh, I could do this one.
[01:51:53]  The scream guy.
[01:51:54]  Yeah, I'll do that one.
[01:51:55]  But for now, we should actually get some questions in from their Discord community.
[01:52:01]  Someone posted a picture of a spooky ghost costume.
[01:52:04]  Thank you.
[01:52:04]  Spooky ghost.

=== Quebec River Land Theory (02:22) ===

[01:52:08]  Robot Tech, what is everyone's opinion on the Alberta referendum?
[01:52:12]  Do you think Alberta will leave Canada and join the United States?
[01:52:15]  No.
[01:52:16]  No.
[01:52:16]  They're pulling it like 20%.
[01:52:19]  No.
[01:52:19]  So I don't think there's any widespread appetite in Alberta.
[01:52:22]  It's a nice sentiment.
[01:52:23]  Yeah.
[01:52:24]  But it's also, and it's something I'm in favor of, I guess.
[01:52:27]  I don't really want to speak on Canada too precisely, but most of it's being astroturfed by conservative media and the United States, even, not even necessarily Canada.
[01:52:35]  That being said, if you're an Alberta nationalist, I mean, more power to you, but you're looking at 20, 30% in the polls.
[01:52:40]  You can invade.
[01:52:40]  I mean, even Quebec's not going to leave.
[01:52:42]  And, you know, they would be the most incentivized because of cultural reasons.
[01:52:45]  But the Canadian government, what you can do, this is what worked out for Quebec, is how they sort of snuffed out Quebec independence, like people that wanted Quebec independence.
[01:52:54]  Is you basically just force Ottawa to give you such insane concessions that it's actually not even worth it to leave.
[01:52:59]  So that's what Alberta should do.
[01:53:00]  Just pretend like you're going to leave so that way the Canadian government just makes massive concessions.
[01:53:05]  What is his name anyway?
[01:53:06]  Quebec.
[01:53:07]  You know what I mean?
[01:53:08]  Some guy came up and said, Quebec.
[01:53:10]  That's not even a word.
[01:53:12]  It's made up.
[01:53:13]  K-Q-U-E.
[01:53:14]  That's what?
[01:53:15]  What does Beck mean?
[01:53:16]  It's French.
[01:53:16]  It's not Spanish.
[01:53:17]  It's a singer from the 90s.
[01:53:18]  Yeah.
[01:53:18]  Something like that.
[01:53:20]  What is Beck?
[01:53:20]  K-Bick?
[01:53:21]  Yeah.
[01:53:22]  No, it's French.
[01:53:23]  Kevin Adele says, How much do you want to bet this redistricting thing blows up in our face because most Republican governors have no balls?
[01:53:28]  $10.
[01:53:30]  Next question.
[01:53:32]  Maybe, but a couple already are.
[01:53:34]  So if we get two seats from it, then what?
[01:53:37]  Yeah.
[01:53:37]  And if the Supreme Court holds up the Virginia redistricting, I mean, we come out on top.
[01:53:41]  So, hey, the word Quebec derives from the Algonquin word Quebec, meaning where the river narrows.
[01:53:47]  That's it.
[01:53:48]  Yeah.
[01:53:48]  But there's too much land, there's a bunch of rivers.
[01:53:50]  Well, it is the St. Lawrence River does narrow as it goes.
[01:53:53]  Could you imagine, like, some guy shows up to your house and you've got, like, in the corner of the room, we have a chair.
[01:54:01]  And he goes, I'm going to call your whole warehouse the corner chair.
[01:54:04]  And I'm like, but that's just the corner of the room.
[01:54:06]  Like, it's a big warehouse.
[01:54:06]  It's got a skate park.
[01:54:07]  I don't care.
[01:54:08]  That chair was the most important part.
[01:54:09]  You could call it like mountain land or something or cold north.
[01:54:12]  But he's like, no, just this one little piece of land where the river comes, we're going to have it encompass, you know, 500,000 square miles or something.
[01:54:20]  Yeah, I wonder if it all started as shit.
[01:54:22]  Pretty sure it's not that many, but, you know.
[01:54:23]  Yeah.
[01:54:24]  I mean, naming these things are weird.
[01:54:27]  All right.
[01:54:28]  Killing Cares 5 says, Tim, we have recently discussed.

=== Parental Control Failures (03:15) ===

[01:54:31]  How the builders of the pyramids moved perfectly carved limestone blocks hundreds of miles.
[01:54:34]  There is another theory out there that makes more sense.
[01:54:37]  Using alchemy, combining one part wood, ash, lye to four parts of readily available desert sand, cast into molds, then spread with vinegar, solidifies the casting similar to ready mix, but creates a limestone that is structurally indistinguishable from natural limestone.
[01:54:51]  Wow.
[01:54:52]  Blocks weren't moved hundreds of miles, they were cast right on the spot.
[01:54:55]  See the book Silva Silverum by researcher Francis Bacon, written in 1627.
[01:55:00]  Oh, well, can you do that?
[01:55:02]  Wood, ash, and lye?
[01:55:04]  Alchemy was converting things to gold.
[01:55:06]  Well, alchemy could theoretically convert anything to anything, but.
[01:55:10]  Yeah, it was old chemistry.
[01:55:11]  Yeah, it's not.
[01:55:13]  No, I mean, we have records of how they built the pyramids.
[01:55:16]  This actually is a conspiracy theory that can pretty easily be debunked.
[01:55:20]  We have a question here from eHonda420.
[01:55:24]  I have two teenage sons who have bought into the Jews are the problem thing.
[01:55:29]  How do I deprogram them?
[01:55:30]  Take their phones away.
[01:55:32]  They're not?
[01:55:33]  No, I'm kidding.
[01:55:33]  Yeah.
[01:55:34]  I mean, phone the banking cartels, man.
[01:55:36]  That's where the Jews are.
[01:55:36]  Well, let them know what Jews are getting at first.
[01:55:38]  I mean, for every George Soros, you have conservative Jews.
[01:55:42]  Like, they're not one monolithic thing.
[01:55:45]  Even in the United States, Sephardic Jews were the majority, and then you had the Ashkenazis come later.
[01:55:49]  Everybody thought Jews were stupid until they just took their butts off.
[01:55:54]  Which ones?
[01:55:56]  Yeah, exactly.
[01:55:56]  Honest question.
[01:55:56]  It's like, oh, okay, like, which ones?
[01:55:58]  And just ask them these questions.
[01:56:00]  The problem is they're being programmed by a cult they can't escape.
[01:56:03]  It doesn't matter if it's the Jews who control the world or if it's the trans stuff.
[01:56:08]  Online, the algorithm has put them in a bubble.
[01:56:11]  That's it.
[01:56:12]  And they're going to swipe through it, but the algorithm keeps them in line and it's going to keep reinforcing these views unless you take their phones away.
[01:56:17]  Yeah, parental controls on the phone so they can't access whatever they're accessing.
[01:56:21]  Isn't that common ground?
[01:56:22]  Do teenagers, though?
[01:56:24]  Yeah, parental controls.
[01:56:25]  They can't access certain things, but they can still call their parents if they need.
[01:56:28]  Get them a brick phone.
[01:56:29]  Get them a.
[01:56:30]  Actually, if you want to be a bit more subversive, here's the plan gain access to their Instagram accounts on another phone and intentionally search for pro Jewish stuff.
[01:56:40]  And then what happens is they won't know, but the algorithm will start changing on their feed.
[01:56:45]  And they'll start getting fed a bunch of anti Jew conspiracy and pro Jew stuff.
[01:56:49]  And before you know it, they'll be like, you know what?
[01:56:50]  You were right.
[01:56:52]  I love the Jews.
[01:56:52]  It's interesting having it make you like legal authority for parents to change their children's algorithms on their phones.
[01:56:58]  That'd be pretty cool.
[01:56:59]  I like that.
[01:57:00]  Just take them to Animal Farm and they'll be like, oh, it's these crony capitalists.
[01:57:03]  Yeah, true.
[01:57:04]  Change their mindset.
[01:57:05]  You want to get the kids to, you want them to give them two pieces of like loosely connected evidence and let them make the connection themselves because then they feel like they figured it out.
[01:57:14]  That's how you really make it.
[01:57:15]  But they're so deeply programmed by this, I'm sure, because a lot of, The people that follow this anti Jewish conspiracy stuff are, you just have to, it's like a drug.
[01:57:23]  You just got to go.
[01:57:23]  Well, the Showa Foundation on YouTube has like hundreds of five hour long testimonies of various victims of the Holocaust.
[01:57:31]  I've listened to hundreds of them.
[01:57:33]  Take them to one of those museums, one of the Holocaust museums.
[01:57:37]  See how that goes.
[01:57:39]  D. Radwan says I recently heard Elon Musk is predicting his production of Optimist bots will be 10 million per year starting 2027.

=== Leaked Movie Consequences (03:14) ===

[01:57:47]  What jobs do you think that many robots will start doing?
[01:57:49]  That humans regularly do now, and do you think will actually happen that fast?
[01:57:53]  They'll produce them, but they're not gonna be able to do a lot of jobs.
[01:57:55]  They'll be able to carry your groceries in for you, maybe.
[01:57:58]  They're not particularly useful right now because they don't have fine motor control.
[01:58:02]  So they're not gonna make Taco Bell or cheeseburgers because, you know, to be fair, actually, they can make cheeseburgers.
[01:58:07]  They can't make Taco Bell.
[01:58:09]  And I mean this seriously.
[01:58:10]  The challenge with Taco Bell is that it requires more motor control than making a cheeseburger.
[01:58:14]  You can actually make cheeseburgers fully automatic with just a single grip grabs the bun, drops the patty, squirt, squirt, squirt, drops the ingredients.
[01:58:22]  Slap the thing on top, you're done.
[01:58:23]  The thing with Taco Bell, and this is really important, by the way, for the argument, you have to fold things, you've got to put them in the grill.
[01:58:32]  McDonald's has some stuff like that, but for the most part, it can make the burgers, but it can't make hard shell tacos.
[01:58:36]  It would crack them.
[01:58:38]  The Optimist bot probably won't be doing anything like that for some time.
[01:58:42]  But white color jobs could be eliminated overnight right now.
[01:58:45]  It would just destroy the economy.
[01:58:46]  So they're not going to do it.
[01:58:50]  All right.
[01:58:50]  What do we got here?
[01:58:52]  Let's see.
[01:58:52]  Lee Halt says a new based movie that came out called Good Luck, Have Fun, Don't Die is about AI taking over the world, and it makes incredibly based social commentary about how AI is controlling the world through phones and endless scrolling, turning humans into drones.
[01:59:04]  A man from the future comes back in time to stop the AI.
[01:59:07]  Incredible movie, very fun and pure chaos.
[01:59:10]  But at the end, to beat the AI, his plan is effectively to infest the world with a virus that makes everyone allergic to the magnetic field given up by the technology, like cell phones.
[01:59:18]  When I heard it, I thought, wow, this is an incredible idea.
[01:59:21]  I saw the promo for it.
[01:59:23]  I haven't watched it yet.
[01:59:24]  I don't really much care for that ending.
[01:59:25]  It's kind of silly, but I'll check it out.
[01:59:28]  Sounds good.
[01:59:28]  Sounds like you spoiled it, bro.
[01:59:30]  Yeah.
[01:59:30]  Well, you know, Sam Rockwell's in it.
[01:59:35]  Mons Bear says, grab the buns, squirt, squirt, squirt.
[01:59:38]  Phrasing, Tim.
[01:59:38]  No, I think the phrasing was appropriate.
[01:59:42]  Vashnik says, the new Avatar of the Last Airbender animated movie that someone leaked like six months out of time was pretty good.
[01:59:48]  It pissed Paramount off.
[01:59:49]  Yeah, so this was crazy.
[01:59:51]  You guys heard about this a couple weeks ago?
[01:59:52]  No.
[01:59:53]  They made an Avatar movie that takes place after The Last Airbender, but before Legend of Korra, where Aang is like a young adult.
[01:59:59]  And it was supposed to be a feature film released in theaters, and everyone's very excited.
[02:00:02]  Avatar is a massive IP worth.
[02:00:05]  Multi billions of dollars.
[02:00:07]  And they then pulled it from theaters and said they were going to release it only on the streaming service.
[02:00:12]  So someone pissed off leaked it on X and it was free to watch it.
[02:00:16]  People downloaded it.
[02:00:17]  Now you can just watch it online because it's been pirated a million times.
[02:00:20]  Yeah, it's a feature length high production movie.
[02:00:22]  And when they pulled it from theaters, somebody was like, there you go, watch it.
[02:00:25]  That's like the exact opposite of what happened to K pop demon hunters.
[02:00:30]  What?
[02:00:30]  They put it in theaters?
[02:00:31]  Well, no.
[02:00:32]  Well, yeah.
[02:00:33]  First, they decided, oh, it's not worth it.
[02:00:36]  Theaters.
[02:00:36]  So, we're just going to release it on Netflix and it does gangbusters and then they release it in theaters.
[02:00:41]  Well, the thing is, this is really bad that it got leaked because we want more original Avatar IP.
[02:00:47]  We want the story to evolve in an intelligent way.
[02:00:49]  Legend of Core was okay.
[02:00:52]  What they did really well is they showed advancements in technique of the different bendings, like metal bending becomes very common, lava bending becomes a thing.

=== Olivia Dasovic Sign Off (03:00) ===

[02:01:02]  And you start to see where there's an intersection between the different elements.
[02:01:05]  Like, technically, if you can bend stone, you can heat it to lava, but now it's a liquid.
[02:01:09]  So, there's a bunch of really cool stuff they could have done.
[02:01:12]  If you leak the movie and they don't make money from it, they'll stop making stuff.
[02:01:15]  So, this is what happened with Kick Ass 2.
[02:01:18]  Chloe Grace Moretz talked about this.
[02:01:19]  The film was pirated to such an extreme degree, the box office tanked, and they couldn't make part three.
[02:01:24]  And she was bummed because she wanted to be in part three.
[02:01:28]  So, don't leak stuff.
[02:01:29]  Let people make things, and you pay for it.
[02:01:33]  I guess that about does it, my friends.
[02:01:35]  It's been a great Friday.
[02:01:35]  I hope you had fun.
[02:01:36]  We had fun.
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[02:01:41]  Sir, would you like to shout anything out?
[02:01:43]  Yeah.
[02:01:44]  Really appreciate having you having me on.
[02:01:47]  I've been focusing on the Southern Poverty Law Center for years.
[02:01:50]  Wrote the book Making Hate Pay, which is all about, as the title says, the corruption of the Southern Poverty Law Center.
[02:02:00]  Well, before this indictment, I was on to the corruption of this group and have been exposing it for forever.
[02:02:06]  It's been an honor of my life to stand up for the good people who are smeared and put on a map with Klan chapters, a map that inspired terrorist attacks, a map that may have contributed to.
[02:02:17]  The death of Charlie Kirk.
[02:02:19]  God rest his soul.
[02:02:20]  And I just really hope we can finally show the world that this nefarious smear factory has no business informing big tech, has no business getting corporate dollars and corporate sponsorships, has no business influencing the federal government like it did under Joe Biden.
[02:02:40]  So thanks again, Tim.
[02:02:42]  And this has been a great conversation.
[02:02:45]  Thanks for coming.
[02:02:46]  I'm at Ian Crossland.
[02:02:47]  Find me on the internet at Ian Crossland.
[02:02:49]  Happy to be here, Tate Brown.
[02:02:51]  Yeah, you can follow me on X and Instagram at Realtate Brown.
[02:02:54]  Thank you for coming out, man.
[02:02:55]  You're doing fantastic work.
[02:02:56]  Really appreciate it.
[02:02:58]  Carter?
[02:02:59]  Yeah, I'm at Carter Banks everywhere.
[02:03:02]  Just wanted to give a shout out.
[02:03:03]  If you do read Orwell, you should read Road to Wigan Pier and Down and Out in London and Paris.
[02:03:11]  And also, we have Olivia here.
[02:03:13]  Yeah, guys, you can follow me at Olivia Dasovic on Instagram or on X. You should go to timcast.com, hit join us, become a member of our Discord.
[02:03:21]  I'm always in there interacting.
[02:03:22]  We've got a lot of cast members in there.
[02:03:23]  You guys should do that.
[02:03:25]  Right on.
[02:03:26]  So we got Serge X in the Discord.
[02:03:27]  He said, You should make your own animal farm movie, but do it in Chicken City and make Roberto a dictator.
[02:03:31]  That's a really, really good idea.
[02:03:34]  And if anybody wants to do an AI version, we like, I will hire you to do it.
[02:03:39]  All we got to do is take pictures around the whole of the Chicken City and of each chicken, and you should be able to AI animate them.
[02:03:46]  And then it would take some time to do like a short film where Roberto becomes a dictator and then you do some of this allegory stuff.
[02:03:52]  That'd be fun.
[02:03:53]  And I would pay for it and I would make that.
[02:03:55]  So if you're interested, get in the Discord.
[02:03:57]  Thanks for hanging out, everybody.
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