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Trump Fires AG Pam Bondi 00:14:27
tim pool
Donald Trump has fired AG Pam Bondi, and there were rumors bubbling up in the Beltway, but it kind of hit pretty quick today when reporting came out that Trump was planning on firing her, and then sure enough, like half an hour later, yeah, she got fired.
She's going to be moving, of course, and Donald Trump has said she did a great job, and everyone's cheering for her, but on the surface, I think everyone's aware that her handling of the Epstein files has been pretty dang bad.
Now, we don't know exactly who's going to take over.
The rumor is Lee Zeldin, but everyone is clamoring, Harmie Dillon, because they want someone fierce who will actually get the job done, but Man, I don't know.
Forgive me if I might feel a little let down based on Trump's administration thus far.
But there are several other people that apparently may be on the chopping block Tulsi Gabbard, maybe Kash Patel.
Rumors are.
However, reporting is nah, these people are safe.
And it'd be pretty crazy for Trump to fire everybody.
But there is another resignation of someone who was working for the administration.
So we'll talk about that.
Plus, a whole lot more aliens, of course, are back in the news.
Because now you've got Rep Tim Burchett saying if the American people were given access to the briefings he's got on aliens, the country would come unglued.
Following what Matt Gaetz said about alien hybrid breeding programs, one would suspect that Congress has just plumb lost their minds, or aliens have been lording over us this whole time.
Maybe those conspiracy theories about shave chipping reptilians were correct.
Probably not, but it'd be fun anyway.
And of course, we've got this major Act Blue scandal where they may have been taking massive amounts of foreign donations for Democrats.
Can't say I'm surprised, but this one's massive, and it's going to have a big impact on the midterms.
We will see how it plays out.
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We have Jane Zirkel.
jayne zirkle
Hi, good to be here.
tim pool
Who are you?
What do you do?
jayne zirkle
So, my name is Jane, and I currently serve as communications director for the Lawfare Project.
We are a Jewish civil rights organization that is taking on care in the Muslim Brotherhood.
We recently sued Carnegie Mellon University and found a billion dollars worth of Qatari funding going through the university through our discovery process.
And yeah.
tim pool
Well, that sounds crazy.
Well, we'll talk about that.
Of course, Libby is hanging out.
libby emmons
I'm Libby Emmons.
Glad to be here.
I'm the editor at the Post Millennial and host of the Pod Millennial.
tim pool
And of course, Carter is pressing all the buttons.
carter banks
What's up, everyone?
Phil's also here.
tim pool
Phil is also here doing.
Those aren't devil horns.
unidentified
What are those?
phil labonte
No, these are like the chucks up.
Do you ever see 13 Hours?
unidentified
Maybe.
phil labonte
It was.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
It's like a hang loose thing.
Anyways.
tim pool
Well, let's jump into the news, the big story.
Trump has fired AG Pam Bondi and, okay, everybody's celebrating.
The rumors are that she was begging not to get fired.
Rumors are rumors, but I will tell you this, guys, in an era when like half, more than half of the conspiracies were proven correct, let me just say this.
I really doubt the official, like, can I just put it like this?
What is even the point of Trump being like, no, no, Pam is moving to a very important private sector job to be not soon?
Just say you fired her, dude.
We get it.
No one for a second genuinely believes this was an amicable departure where she got a brilliant private sector job.
Everybody knows the PR game is fake.
She got fired.
She mishandled the Epstein files.
Everybody's embarrassed.
She embarrassed a whole bunch of these right wing media personalities.
And Mike Cernovich was there and he was talking about how it wasn't an op, it wasn't a manipulation.
Like they genuinely were trying to bring people in and say, we're going to give you these files.
But Pam Bondi just did a really, really bad job embarrassing herself.
Donald Trump and all of these right wing personalities that showed up.
So, sure enough, finally, she's been fired.
And I wonder if the timing is due to trying to get in someone, maybe it's Lee Zeldin before the midterms.
I'm not entirely sure.
jayne zirkle
Well, 12 days before the Epstein deposition that she was supposed to give, too, which it looks like she's still going to have to give, but it will be interesting to see what comes of that.
tim pool
This could be really interesting because this is pretty wild.
She could now say, I don't know.
And she can say, Congressman, I was in the process of reviewing our files in preparation for this deposition, but since being terminated, I no longer had access and I have not prepared.
libby emmons
Yeah, I mean, she also gets super testy before Congress.
You ever watch her before Congress?
It's actually kind of fun.
It's embarrassing for her because she lets her temper get away with her, but, you know, we'll all for sure miss that.
jayne zirkle
Last year, she pulled out of an anti human trafficking conference and said, Oh, I'm sick, like at the last minute.
And it was very abrupt and just seemed very strange, the whole situation.
phil labonte
I don't know what she's like in person.
I don't know what Donald Trump saw in her to stand behind her for as long as he did.
I think that it's a good thing that she's leaving.
Hopefully, whoever he gets actually.
You know, pursues the things that the grassroots that elected Donald Trump were really concerned about, whether it be Epstein files.
I would like to see more activity on trying to arrest people that are involved with Antifa and leftists that did.
libby emmons
That would be great.
phil labonte
Yeah, that were violent.
You know, I think that that would be something that would make the base happy.
I think they'd like to see it.
But I don't think that a new AG, at least now, has enough time to do things to repair the damage before the midterms, which I think that.
I think this is probably what's going on.
But Trump, if he'd have done this last fall, he might have been able to do something that actually, you know, to stop the bleeding and repair the damage before the midterms.
Now, I don't know if he's got the time.
Six months is not a long time.
libby emmons
Not a lot of time.
And if he keeps delivering speeches like the one that he did last night, which was so vague, it had very low energy, it didn't give any of the actual information that people wanted.
It was just like, be patient.
I'm doing a war here.
World War II was longer, so chill out.
unidentified
That was funny.
libby emmons
That was not a very effective speech in terms of, you know, What the base is looking for, or what the American people voted for.
Certainly not what I voted for.
I mean, one of the things that attracted me to Donald Trump was that he assured us all that he was not going to start new wars, that he was going to be a peace president.
And I feel like he betrayed the country by going into Iran at this point.
And yeah, in terms of Bondi, we already knew that she was the second choice.
I mean, Matt Gaetz was the first choice.
tim pool
You're misremembering.
Trump was just going on and on about, we're going to invade, we're going to invade everywhere all the time.
And we were all on the show, yourself saying, yes, we support war.
libby emmons
I think if we go back and check the records, we will.
tim pool
You were the most in favor of it.
libby emmons
You were screaming at Phil.
That is not, in fact, accurate.
phil labonte
She was using all kinds of slurs for people and all kinds of things.
tim pool
I have a conspiracy theory, and it's that my conspiracy theory is that.
Trump knew things were getting bad.
He wanted to go into Iran.
Marco Rubio laid out why.
They knew it would sour all of the Trump admin individuals.
There are many people who have careers moving forward or could.
Tulsi Gabbard's not particularly old.
And so, if it is true, Tulsi Gabbard gets ousted.
I don't know that it is true.
They're denying it, I guess.
I wouldn't be surprised if right now the plan is what comes after MAGA, right?
Trump is going to be out and he's the personality.
So, how many of Trump supporters will get behind just Vance?
You'd probably expect a decent amount to break off.
So, I wouldn't be surprised if their PR campaign, their political strategy is Trump's souring among moderates.
Joe Rogan and Theo Vaughn were just making fun of him.
So, Trump fires a bunch of people, becomes the villain on the way out, and salvages the career of other individuals who may come back into other administrations.
libby emmons
We've already seen him, though, not be particularly concerned about the legacy of MAGA, though.
I mean, he says that.
He is MAGA.
He says that there is no MAGA without him.
So, anybody who comes.
unidentified
My point.
libby emmons
Yeah.
Anybody who comes after him, like, even if he's the, like, what does he care?
You know?
jayne zirkle
Well, I think we're talking post MAGA, but, you know, remember, if Republicans lose the midterms, which quite honestly, it doesn't look that great for them right now, you know, we're going to find ourselves in another situation that it's just impeachment hoax and lawfare campaigns.
And so, really, that would put a stop to a chunk of MAGA right there.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
You know, I think that there's something.
That's a good point.
So, there's something that we haven't even talked about.
Like, who can get, this is a bit of a, I'm not trying to derail the conversation, but who could actually get confirmed as AG?
unidentified
Exactly.
tim pool
Mark Wayne Mullen got confirmed for Dave Chappelle.
libby emmons
Yeah, they did that pretty quick, too.
phil labonte
I just, I'm not sure that the Senate is going to confirm anybody that's going to make the base happy.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
But again, to my point, like, this is a shift into, I think Rubio's a candidate in 2028.
He has been outstanding.
He has really evolved from 10 years ago.
He's been calm, collected, not a culture warrior.
He's clearly articulated the Trump administration positions as it pertains to foreign policy, taking on a bunch of roles.
JD Vance has not done that.
I like JD Vance, but he's not done that.
I think they're preparing for Trump is going to go out and this MAGA culture war bravado is going to go with it.
jayne zirkle
Do you think he will be the next attorney general, too?
tim pool
Margo Rubio?
No, I would love it if Harmite Dillon got that job, but Lee Zeldin, look, the rumors were that Bondi was going to get fired and that Lee Zeldin would take the job.
Sounds like they were right about half of it so far.
I bet they'd be right about the other half.
libby emmons
I mean, I voted for Zeldin when he was running for governor of New York.
jayne zirkle
I mean, he would have won had there not been that exodus from New York because of COVID crisis.
unidentified
Right.
libby emmons
There was like 500,000 people who moved to Florida, basically.
Yeah, it will be interesting to see.
I think that it is such a fascinating question.
Is there MAGA without Trump?
Is there a coalition without Trump?
You know, one thing that we saw after Charlie Kirk was murdered was a complete fracturing, and that was.
You know, I mean, in retrospect, it wasn't surprising, but at the time and watching it happen, it was certainly kind of like, really, we're all going to go down with this now?
We're all going to just sink?
tim pool
Well, look, what's your, what's, what is Libby short for?
Lib, Libard?
libby emmons
It's actually short for Elizabeth.
tim pool
Ah, I knew that.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Listen, Elizabeth, you were a liberal.
And because the left went insane, I as well, we find ourselves in this coalition.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
And now that we have war, Which is from like for many of us, it was the biggest issue.
I'm not so negative on Trump, I'm not so judgmental, and I don't flip on a dime.
But critical, I'm hoping Trump wins.
The future is not going to be like right now, moderates, as I mentioned, Joe Rogan and Theo Vaughn were just ragging on Trump.
I mean, that is massive for the middle of the road independence or default libs that Rogan helped Trump get.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
And RFK Jr. as well.
I am hoping that the rumors about a future being like a Tulsi Gabbard versus Rubio in 2028, I wish that was the case.
And I know it's just Scuttlebutt.
libby emmons
Tulsi versus Rubio?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Just rumors are meaningless.
You know what I mean?
Like we're years away, it's an eternity until then.
But the rumors were when Kent got out that Tulsi would also be coming out.
She would be politely and honorably critical of the war with Iran, as she always has been, and present an anti Trump alternative that is not Trump derangement syndrome, that respects Trump admin personnel.
And then you can imagine a scenario where Tulsi Gabbard is debating Marco Rubio, saying, I worked with Marco, he's a great guy, he served its distinction, we just disagree on those issues.
And Rubio says, Tulsi, I appreciate it, you've been fantastic, but you were wrong.
And it tries to bring a more moderate, unified culture back to the United States.
libby emmons
Could you imagine a civilized political debate?
I mean, that would be absolutely unbelievable.
unidentified
What's the point?
Amazing issues.
libby emmons
I would be into it because that's what we're missing we're missing that sort of situation where everybody agrees that their opponent has only the best interests of the country at heart and they just disagree on the best way to achieve the shared goals.
tim pool
Just imagine, right?
libby emmons
That's the 1986 liberal dream.
tim pool
You know, you've got you.
So, I'm very curious to see.
I've been harping on and on about forgive me, guys, for bringing myself into this, but somehow I find myself wrapped up in some of these stories.
These AI bot campaigns that try lumping me and Jack Posobic and Mylanopoulos with Tucker and Candace.
And the funny thing is, before these AI bot campaigns started popping up, and I don't know they're all AI bots, but there is this generic thread where it's like, I am done with Tim Pool, I am done with Milo, I am done with Jack Posobic.
Before those popped up, I said, The rumors were that there was going to be an anti interventionist Democrat moderate base.
I mean, let's just be real.
The idea was Tulsi Gabbard versus Rubio.
And these were the rumors when Joe Kent stepped out.
And I'm going to point out, I think I'm not supposed to talk about this kind of stuff.
And there's a lot of people in the know with access are probably very, very mad.
But they never explicitly said, Tim, don't tell anybody this is what's going on.
It may have been implied.
So, well, I apologize if that's the case.
But I don't think that's the case.
I just want to stress the rumors going around with that Joe Kent is not at odds with Trump, he is friends with Trump.
Pushing Extremes to the Fringes 00:14:44
tim pool
Leaving.
Like Trump pulled him out after he missed, like he tried to run for Congress, he didn't get there.
He's leaving, criticizing Trump, and becoming this conservative voice of anti interventionism.
Meaning, woke is out.
If Tulsi Gabbard and Joe Kent become prominent players as an alternative to Trump, representing moderates that started to take control in the Democratic Party, woke is completely iced out.
And you will get a Democratic Party, or perhaps just independents that shut out Democrats, you will get a Democrat or moderate party that say, Oh, we all agree child sex changes are crazy and abortion at the point of birth is nuts.
Nobody wants that.
This gun control is excessive.
And the alternative to Trump becomes something most Trump supporters would go, eh, okay.
You know what I mean?
unidentified
Yeah.
jayne zirkle
What do you think, though, about sort of the low propensity issue that Republicans often face in the midterms?
You know, how do we overcome the Trump supporters who were just there to vote for Donald Trump?
tim pool
That's the point.
When Trump leaves, this is the plan they're laying out where you split the Trump administration between the moderates.
And the conservatives, and now it doesn't matter because you own the board, you have both parties basically aligned with this one vision.
I think this is supported by a few things the massive money going into moderate Democrats across the board in primaries, crushing like Colbert teaming up with Tallarico to hoax people so that Jasmine Crockett gets booted out.
We saw how many squad members lost their primaries, and now none of the year remember when they were running puff pieces on Hassan Piker?
Now they're running hit.
Pieces and Democrats are refusing to be involved in events where he's present.
It is becoming very, very clear that woke and progressive left is politica non grata.
So I wonder again if these are just rumors.
I assume there's some truth to the rumors, and the people behind the scenes who are planning these politics are going, Tim, you're close, but pretty far.
The idea being there must be a plan in place for when Trump is out of office.
And you make a good point.
There are people who only show up for Trump.
So what do you do?
Control both sides of the coin.
That way, the progressive far left don't even have a foot to stand on.
libby emmons
Well, and then we get rid of the extremes on both sides.
We're back to something sort of where the crazy people are fringy and everybody else is just sort of middle of the road and we have forever wars forever.
phil labonte
That only lasts for maybe another, I mean, maybe another two presidential cycles because the young people look at people on the far left and far right as.
Ascendant.
They look to those voices and they're more likely to agree with people like Hassan Piker or like Nick Fuentes than they are with someone like Marco Rubio.
tim pool
But they are young.
And so we were all.
phil labonte
They age out?
tim pool
What's up?
phil labonte
You think they age out of that opinion?
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
I think many of us, even in this room, were intemperate in our youth.
And perhaps when you get a little older, you calm the F down.
jayne zirkle
I think a big problem that we're facing now, especially when it comes to the threat of Islamification, is this new block of voters were born largely after 9 11.
And so they really haven't experienced a large scale magnitude of terror attack and that nature.
phil labonte
To those young people, the war on terror happened largely before they were born.
And that's just boomer slopped to them.
Yeah, you've got a good point.
jayne zirkle
Well, that's where we got Mandami too.
In New York, because I mean, you know, 25 years or nearly 25 years after 9 11, you have these young people getting behind this Islamist.
tim pool
I'd put it like this Israel has no support among young people, it's minimal.
It's like, what is it, 30%, mostly leaning right.
I think Pew's research came out and said 54% negative perspective on Israel.
The U.S., the military industrial complex, and the machine that Trump is laying out.
Let me pause real quick.
You see that letter from the Iranian president where he said, This is not about Israel.
The US has been targeting us for a long time.
I don't think Iran comes to the defense of Israel willy nilly.
I think the truth is the military industrial complex tolerates a lot of Israel's whims because we do have an alignment in this region.
And that means that the deep state, the machine state, is not going to tolerate a generation of people that do not support our operations in the Middle East.
When you take a look at the 2000s, Anti war voices did not exist in the corporate press.
They very much want to go back to this position where, again, it's perfect.
You've got a Tulsi Gabbard base that are, with all due respect to Trump and Marco, who I think are good and honest people, I don't think this was the right play, as opposed to, with all due respect to Dave Smith, Dave Smith.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
The machine state does not want a Dave Smith coming out saying, F your war, F your lies.
They want a candidate who says, I understand but disagree, meaning, as you pointed out, we have.
Amicable discourse with permanent forever wars, forever, forever wars.
Well, imagine if you've got.
Well, I don't know if I agree with this war in the Middle East, but you know, you won an election and then you have, we have wars in the Middle East.
No longer will there be the staunch never, never, never or Israel, Israel, Israel.
libby emmons
Right.
Because the idea is to push those people far into the fringes.
Indeed.
So that they could go back to the situation of like, you know, George Bush versus Al Gore, two candidates who both would have ended up going into Afghanistan.
You know, Obama, George Bush both ended up going into Afghanistan.
tim pool
So, wait, McCain, you're right.
libby emmons
So, wait, McCain, you're right.
phil labonte
Just for clarity, are you.
Of the opinion that we should not have gone into Afghanistan after 9 11?
libby emmons
I don't, you know.
tim pool
We should not have gone into Afghanistan.
libby emmons
I think based on the results of what happened in Afghanistan, I think we fouled it up really pretty badly.
And if you had looked at the history of wars in Afghanistan, Russia can't, no one can win wars in Afghanistan.
There's no point in that.
So I think the women of Afghanistan are far worse off than ever before.
phil labonte
The we shouldn't have gone into Afghanistan is a very popular opinion nowadays, and it's because.
I think it's because of the fact that we were in Afghanistan for 20 years.
If we had gone in, hold on, hold on, hold on, let me finish.
If we had gone into Afghanistan and done what we did up until May of 2011, and on May 7th of 2011, picked up shop and left, that's just days after Gothic Serpent, that's just days after they went into Pakistan and got bin Laden.
If they'd have just picked, they said, okay, mission accomplished, we're out of here, and left, right?
That would have had a totally different perspective on the war in Afghanistan.
libby emmons
Yeah, it's always going to be different if we win, but we keep not winning.
phil labonte
That's because it's a political issue.
libby emmons
Sure, sure, sure.
I mean, I was talking to a columnist today who was going on about like Trump should just say we win in Iran and leave.
Just say we win as though, like, saying we win and winning are the exact same thing because we're in a post structuralist political age.
phil labonte
If we had gone into, but the point that I'm making is going into Afghanistan after September 11th was not the folly.
The folly was staying in Afghanistan for 20 years.
unidentified
Sure.
libby emmons
I mean, Obama campaigned on we're going to go even harder into Afghanistan and make everything.
tim pool
And it was amazing how many people were like, he's going to end the wars.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
Like, that's not true.
libby emmons
And now, having voted for Trump, believing he was going to not start wars, I know exactly how those people felt.
unidentified
I, uh, Yeah.
tim pool
This was a formative moment in my life because I voted for Obama.
libby emmons
I did not vote for Obama.
And it was because of Afghanistan.
tim pool
No, I voted for him because, as much as I knew, he had campaigned on surging troops.
It was in an effort to bring in some of the troops, security objectives, and then you can get out.
Meaning, like a Chinese finger trap, you can't keep pulling.
You've got to give a little so you can release.
And the narrative, especially in Chicago, was he's saying that to get the votes.
He's going to.
And then I remember it was like.
The end of January was like three days into his presidency, and he bombed a village killing women and children.
Or I should say, he signed on to a strike.
The military was obviously already operating in the region, and he signed on to a drone strike that killed something like 20 plus women and children.
And then I was like, wow.
And I think, how old was I at the time?
I would have been just like 20, I think, when he got in, about to turn 21.
And then I was just like, yeah, I should have known better.
Like, I've known enough from watching The Simpsons, you know what I mean?
That you can't trust these.
These things.
But I was being screamed at that Obama was different.
You don't understand.
We finally did it.
We finally got a real outsider in.
And he was anything but an outsider.
libby emmons
Yeah, he was an ultimate insider.
And I think that's what people, I think that's what the political class wants.
They want more insiders.
They want to get rid of the fringes entirely.
They'd be happy to get rid of Piker.
They'd be happy to get rid of, you know, Trump.
They'd be happy to get rid of everything on the edges.
tim pool
I mean, and I just have to say, I've always supported Middle Eastern interventions and war in Iran.
And Think that Lockheed Martin, Halliburton, for all their contracts in the Middle East and the construction they were doing, has been a blessing for this country.
And I, for one, welcome our new pro war overlords.
In other words, pick me.
The ultimate media pick me.
No, we'll see, because as I've already been mentioning, which is funny, I was talking to Jeremy Hambly of The Quartering, and I'd been saying on the show for quite a bit that the effort right now is the media companies are going to start buying out podcasts.
Where they are going to cut off the fringes and heavily promote the middle ground.
And you know what?
I hope it's a genuine effort.
I fear it's not because we've all been, you know, we all suffer from post censorship stress disorder.
But the idea is this.
Let me ask you guys first, I think we all agree if powerful megastructures and billionaires intend to isolate political opinions so that only those who bend the knee to the machine are allowed to speak, that's a bad thing.
However, I ask you guys this if millionaires and billionaires and big networks Buy into shows for the effort of propping up genuine conversation, respecting the speech and opinions of these shows, but trying to promote conversations that are respectable, thus having the effect of icing out the fringes.
Would that be a good thing?
libby emmons
I don't think the second thing is.
I think that the corporations that would be doing the buying would tell themselves the second thing, but would actually still just keep doing the first thing.
tim pool
Sure, sure, sure.
But that's not my question.
My question is if the effect of whatever the intention is, is that genuine conversations, honest thought prevail, are lifted up through promotion and access, and the fringes do their things, but eventually fall to the wayside, would that be a good thing or a bad thing?
jayne zirkle
I think it would be a great thing, but I just am sort of weary of trusting that concept in the sense that.
tim pool
Well, we all agree.
That was my point about the two scenarios.
I don't trust corporations that had giant syringes dancing around.
I'm just saying that, like the pipe dream, it would be beautiful if the mainstream prominent conversations in this country had conservatives and liberals enjoying a beer together and debating the minutiae of tax policy as opposed to throwing Molotovs at each other.
Well, more importantly, leftists throwing Molotovs at conservatives.
libby emmons
You know what would happen?
What was that thing where the CIA infiltrated all of the media?
tim pool
Well, was that Mockingbird?
libby emmons
Yeah, Mockingbird.
So I think that never ended.
unidentified
Come on.
libby emmons
No, well, but I think that one thing that we had during the Mockingbird era, if you will, is we had a shared information network so that everyone was getting the same news and everyone was able to talk to each other about the same news.
I mean, now we're in a situation where just as someone curating news for readers and trying to figure out what's out there, there's no clear news cycle at all.
It's entirely fragmented.
And a shared culture is useful.
tim pool
I'm going to say it right now.
libby emmons
You'd be lied to the whole time anyway.
Like, can we ever go back to something?
tim pool
I'm going to say this right now, and I know Phil's going to agree with me on this one.
If the powers that be intentionally spent money to eliminate the speech of gay communists and prop up everybody else, we'd all be happy.
W. Like, if there's a billionaire who's like, I'm going to invest money in a media apparatus that promotes everybody except the wackaloon gay communists, we're all happy.
libby emmons
Well, that's why CBS is getting in trouble now.
tim pool
They're getting in trouble.
libby emmons
Well, everyone yells at CBS as like chills and blah, blah, blah.
tim pool
They want to get rid of the gay communists.
libby emmons
Get rid of the gay communists.
tim pool
Now, gay is okay.
Barry Weiss is gay married.
It's just the communism they want to get rid of.
libby emmons
The commie part is bad.
tim pool
The commie part is the bad part.
libby emmons
But by getting rid of the commies, we would also get rid of the extremist Islamists.
unidentified
Yeah.
libby emmons
So that would be a win as well.
tim pool
You know?
I honestly like, I think of a time when we had unified culture.
Like we've been joking about how the 90s were so great.
And one theme of this show as it pertains to the culture war is how.
You can go into a bar, go to the jukebox and put on Bohemian Rhapsody, and it doesn't matter who they are, even immigrants, they will sing that song.
I went into a bar and there's some black people, there's some Latinos.
We put on Bohemian Rhapsody and everybody is singing together.
And I'm like, isn't that supposed to be the liberal dream?
But then you put on modern music and everyone breaks.
libby emmons
Well, because no one even has heard it and it's bad sounding.
tim pool
It's bad.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And sounding indeed.
unidentified
Yep.
libby emmons
You could do that also with Don't Stop Believing.
unidentified
Yeah.
libby emmons
And I gotta say, I knew myself, if there had been any doubt, I knew my son was a white kid when at about five years old, he told me Don't Stop Believing was his favorite song.
phil labonte
Good for him.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
It is a great song.
jayne zirkle
We played it all the time.
All American song.
We need to bring back all American music.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
There's this viral clip from, what's that show where the three judges can press a button for an X and use it?
jayne zirkle
It's like a T. America's Got Talent?
tim pool
Is that what it is?
It might be X Factor.
Democrat Wealth Tax Ideas 00:15:27
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
All I know is there's a clip from one of those shows.
It might be America's Got Talent.
unidentified
Where.
tim pool
The two women don't actually play a song.
They just tell the crowd to go da, And then they're like, okay, what's this?
And then Simon Cowell's like, it's Africa.
And then the whole audience is singing Africa and they've got the different harmonies and the lyrics going because everyone knows that song.
I would love that.
I would love a unified culture.
And I think that's the point of the culture war.
So that's why I say, as much as there will be a bunch of libertarians and middle of the road libs, Who are like, it is wrong to censor.
I'd be like, you know, if it's just the Marxists who get censored, I don't care.
Like, if liberals, conservatives, libertarians, moderates are all debating, but the wackaloons are just outside looking through the window, I don't care.
libby emmons
I would, go ahead.
jayne zirkle
I would love to see them also bring this into like the theater industry too, like take back Broadway and live theater.
unidentified
Indeed.
tim pool
Let's, let's jump to this story, which is, uh, in line with what we're talking about.
This is from Mediaite.
Hassan Piker is the left's Candace Owens.
The press treats him like a rock star.
Well, you're the press, Mediaite.
And so, no, not anymore.
Democrats have basically said Hassan Piker is persona non grata.
While they were once running puff pieces, like Mediaite is pointing out, something shifted.
And now prominent Democrats think he's toxic and are trying to avoid him.
It may have something to do with him saying that we deserve 9-11.
unidentified
Indeed.
phil labonte
Yeah, or that babies are settlers.
Babies are settlers.
tim pool
I really have to point this out.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
You don't have to like Israel.
Like, you are allowed to say Israel bad all day.
But it is shockingly egregious when you mention that violence, when your opinion is that violence against settlers in the West Bank is self defense, and then you go on to say, and the babies are settlers too.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
That's when everyone's like, bro.
I was already iffy on your first statement.
Like, obviously, if someone comes in to rob your house or take your land with a gun, we are like, okay, now we got a problem.
But then when you justify going into the home and shooting a baby, it's like, bro.
And I think he's gotten a pass for a long time.
Here's what I think I think Democrats were thinking, I think the Uniparty didn't know how to handle the populist uprising on the left and the right.
And I think after Joe Rogan got behind Trump, they went, okay, guys, wokes cooked.
Like, we can't run on this brand.
It doesn't mean they want to get away from it.
Like, we were saying, censorship and all this stuff will come back if Democrats win.
But I wonder now if they're just saying we have to.
Well, actually, no.
They're literally saying it.
Democrats are saying they need a straight white Christian man who's going to run in 2028.
libby emmons
They're saying that because they're racist.
I mean, the Democrats are so racist that they think they cannot win unless they run a straight white man.
jayne zirkle
I mean, take like the school issue alone.
I mean, what they're teaching kids, like, you can't believe in God.
You're.
Evil if you're white, these privilege tests that Charlie Kirk would talk about all the time, that whole ecosystem is coming back to completely bite them in the butt because these kids have over radicalized to the point that they actually are dividing the Democrat Party because they would rather have the AOCs and Zoran Mandamis than the Gavin Newsomes.
And the Democrats are like, oh, shoot, we went too far.
libby emmons
Yeah, I mean, Gavin Newsom isn't a radical, but he's a shill for whoever's paying his bills.
tim pool
Untrustworthy, though.
phil labonte
And he's also terrible for the state, too.
libby emmons
Terrible.
phil labonte
I mean, I haven't really dug into it.
libby emmons
He's not an extremist.
He's just an opportunist.
jayne zirkle
That's sort of like the standard Democrat.
phil labonte
I mean, I think when you're dealing with politicians or with most of the Democrat politicians, yes, I agree.
But I mean, you know, Clyburn's still the guy that's kind of the kingmaker in the Democrat Party, right?
If Clyburn says you're the guy, then you're going to be the guy.
And Clyburn is looking at all of these people like Hassan Piker and all of the far leftists, and I don't think that he's going to get behind them at all.
That being said, this is something that we talked about for the past year, at least, probably a year and a half since the election of Donald Trump.
Is there a civil war that's going on and that has been going on in the Democrat Party between the progressives, the communists, the DSA aligned wing of the party, and the normal Democrats?
I think that at the end of the day, the normal Democrats will end up doing what Spanberger has done in Virginia.
They'll go ahead and they'll say that they're.
Moderate, they'll say that they're middle of the road so that way they can get the money from the big donors, but then they'll rubber stamp whatever policy the progressives can get put into place.
The reason is because you're not going to get the big donations from the big donors if you're campaigning on we have to have a wealth tax, we have to have a tax on your net wealth.
You're not going to get those donors to give you big checks.
They're not going to write big checks to the PACs.
You're going to have to do small donations, and there probably isn't enough money.
That will come into your campaign to actually win.
libby emmons
Well, Washington just put in place a wealth tax, just as Oracle and Meta slashed like thousands of jobs.
tim pool
They actually implemented it?
I thought there was an income tax.
libby emmons
I think they signed something.
tim pool
They signed the income tax and like right before the Starbucks guy dipped.
libby emmons
Right, right, right.
unidentified
Yeah.
libby emmons
Starbucks went to.
tim pool
No, no, I think it was a wealth based, it was a high progressive income tax.
libby emmons
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
It wasn't a tax on wealth.
Well, it was, but it's not the.
phil labonte
They just have a 9.9% income tax on earnings over $1 million per year.
tim pool
That's in.
unidentified
That's.
libby emmons
Right.
phil labonte
Yeah.
And look, I mean, rich people are just going to leave.
libby emmons
Well, and rich people are leaving Washington.
And Newsom is talking about a wealth tax.
And so rich people are talking about leaving California.
unidentified
Not only that, but.
libby emmons
And that's Mamdani pushing it on Kathy Hochul, trying to extort Hochul.
unidentified
You've got.
libby emmons
And Hochul was already like, hey, maybe we should just tell the rich people to come back to New York.
And meanwhile, Mamdani's going out there going, my plan, tax the rich.
phil labonte
And you've got Ro Khanna.
unidentified
And you've got Ro Khanna.
phil labonte
You've got Roe Khanna and Bernie Sanders talking about that one federally.
That's going to be a problem for the Democrat Party.
That's going to be a big problem.
jayne zirkle
On the flip side, in Florida, you have the state considering getting rid of property tax.
So it's just going to be everybody.
tim pool
It's their principal tax driver.
jayne zirkle
It's on the ballot in 2020.
libby emmons
Property tax is the thing.
Find some property in Florida.
If you buy land, then it's not even yours.
It somehow still belongs to the government.
phil labonte
What'd you say, Tim?
tim pool
Let's go find some property in Florida.
phil labonte
I mean.
Anyways, I like Florida personally.
But, anyways, but yeah, look, the point that I'm making is the people that have money that have historically given to Democrats and to Democrat causes, they're not going to give to the progressives, people like Hassan Piker, people like the squad.
You saw a slew of very progressive candidates in Illinois get trounced.
libby emmons
Yeah.
phil labonte
Because the American people.
libby emmons
Or the Gosselie or whatever.
phil labonte
Yeah.
The American people do not like these policies.
There is a small vocal minority that.
Is motivated by hatred of people that have done better than them, that think that the world is worse off because of billionaires, think that the reason that their life is not as good as they believe it should be is because some billionaire somewhere has stolen money or whatever crazy person BS they imagine.
libby emmons
Well, part of the thing, too, is that all of the people who are like tax the rich, they imagine that Americans are out there believing that they're going to be poor forever.
And part of being American is imagining that someday you too could be rich.
phil labonte
Everybody is a temporarily embarrassed millionaire.
libby emmons
And so that's.
That's part of it.
Like, you know, most Americans sit around and like go to work, hustle, and imagine when they can make their money and start, you know, whatever it is that they want to do with all their money.
But if you have this wealth tax, then what you're really saying is, why would I work really hard?
If I'm going to work really hard and get my money, I don't want to be taxed to death.
unidentified
Yeah.
jayne zirkle
But they're manipulating, you know, a voting block of renters.
unidentified
Yes.
jayne zirkle
So that's the tricky part.
libby emmons
And they're saying everyone should be renters, right?
They want everyone to not just be renters, but renting from the government.
tim pool
That was one of the big plays with COVID.
Was it de Blasio?
He wanted to buy up New York buildings for pennies on the dollar after destroying their value through COVID lockdowns.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
People are evil, man.
unidentified
Yes.
libby emmons
That's a true thing.
phil labonte
Yeah.
I just don't think that these policies are going to be popular.
I don't think people like Hassan, I think it's good for the Democrats as a brand to try to push people like Hassan Piker away.
I saw Jacobin had written a piece on Piker and how the People in the Democrats are saying, yo, you got to get away from this guy and stuff.
And they're saying, oh, well, you know, they just don't understand him or whatever.
And it's like, no, they have a pretty good idea of what kind of policies this guy.
I mean, he's an anchor baby to start off with.
He was born in New Jersey, then he went to Turkey and rode horses on his family's, you know, because I think his uncle's a billionaire.
unidentified
He's rich.
phil labonte
Yeah, super rich.
Super rich.
libby emmons
Aren't we just talking about his like $2,000 glasses or whatever?
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, he's ridiculously rich.
He himself is rich, but his family's also rich.
So, like, he should be.
libby emmons
Generational wealth.
phil labonte
Yeah, he's in no position to talk about the things that he does.
But people like Hassan Piker that advocate violence, he said things like, the streets should run red with their capitalist blood.
He's made those kind of remarks.
He consistently makes remarks like that that are absolutely abhorrent, that are totally un American.
The U.S. deserved 9 11 and all kinds of things like he hates America, he's not proud of America.
The Democrat Party.
Needs to look at him like he is radioactive and push him as far away as possible.
unidentified
Can I?
phil labonte
Because they're not going to, it's not going to be something that the American people are going to actually be drawn to.
tim pool
I got a question.
Are there any podcasts that are pro war?
libby emmons
Pro war podcasts?
tim pool
Are there any podcasts that take the approach of we needed to go into Iran and it was the right decision to make?
libby emmons
You know, I think Scott Jennings has a podcast and he's made that argument.
tim pool
Big podcasts.
No disrespect to Scott Jennings.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
But I mean, like, Of the top global podcasts.
I don't think so.
I think all of the top podcasts are staunchly anti war.
And this is what makes me wonder about the machinations of political elites.
You know, the Allison's buying CBS is a major power move.
And I think it was Aaron McIntyre who said, if you don't have political leaders willing to dump billions to pursue their cause, what hope?
Something like, then what hope do you have, right?
libby emmons
That's what I worry about with conservative culture.
tim pool
That no one's willing to spend the money?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Well, I wonder if what we're seeing right now.
Here's what I can say The purchase of TikTok was completely about Israel.
Initially, the Republicans were like, this platform is biased against Democrats.
I'm sorry, biased against Republicans for Democrats.
I misspoke.
And we should ban it because of this.
And Democrats were like, no, that's ridiculous and insane.
Then October 7th happened and TikTok's algorithm flipped.
All of a sudden, it was promoting anti Israel content despite the fact Israel had just been attacked and people had been slaughtered.
All of a sudden, then Democrats got on board and were like, okay, maybe we should ban it.
Trump intervenes, and you see the master's stroke.
It's no, we're not going to ban it.
We're going to put a pause on this.
We're going to control it.
Then it gets purchased by US interests, and reportedly now the narrative is changing.
We had foreign.
libby emmons
You read the Osama bin Laden letter, right?
tim pool
Exactly.
This is a degree of insanity.
You had people on TikTok being like, wow, I read Osama bin Laden letter, and you know.
It's like, no, no, you don't, you know.
He killed a bunch of Americans.
He organized these plots for a long time.
He was responsible for bombings at military bases.
unidentified
This is.
tim pool
Insane degree of propaganda.
So I wonder when I see the top podcasts all being staunchly anti war, in many ways anti America.
I say in many ways because I'm not going to play stupid games like they hate America, but they're very critical of the US foreign policy, as well as particularly anti Israel.
But then you don't see in media right now the same kind of fervent or maybe that's not the right word, but passionate investment into a media apparatus to Stop this kind of sentiment.
The reason why I ask about whether there are any big podcasts that are in favor of this war is because it seems interesting that you'll have the Ellisons purchasing principal stakes in TikTok as well as CBS.
But then on the audio side of distribution, it is complete Wild West or it's the complete other direction.
The question I then have is is it that Spotify and Apple and YouTube want to promote?
Anti war, anti establishment, anti America, and anti Israel content?
Or is it just that's what the Wild West is producing because there's massive international audiences that will prop it up?
unidentified
I mean, honest question.
tim pool
Could not the powerful interests of billions of dollars make YouTube and Spotify be like, suppress them?
We know YouTube does tiny room shadow bans and things of the sort.
libby emmons
Right.
tim pool
In this instance, it seems they're promoting these ideas.
phil labonte
I mean, I feel like when it comes to YouTube, they're motivated by who's buying ads.
The whole apocalypse and stuff, that was because of the situation where they didn't want ads being played on what people considered objectionable media.
tim pool
Are people buying ads on Erica Kirk content?
It's an honest question.
I have ads on YouTube.
I have been a Google advertiser for over a decade.
I have personalized specialists at Google who contact me as it pertains to ads.
And when you run advertisements, you select where those ads are going to appear.
And for some reason, there are advertisers choosing to run their ads on specifically Erica Kirk content.
phil labonte
Specifically Erica Kirk content.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
So there's RPM trackers.
Here's the easiest way to check this stuff without using a service.
Open up Grok or ChatGPT and say, provide for me the CPM or RPM for topics and subjects, genres on YouTube.
It'll give you a huge list.
Finance is usually number one at around $20.
Now, you don't get as many views on financial content.
Not many people are as interested in it.
But if you get 1,000 views on a video specifically about finance, you'll get 20 bucks.
If you get 1,000 views on a video about news, you'll get $5 to $8.
If you get a thousand views on a video about Erica Kirk, you'll get $20.
That makes no sense to me.
libby emmons
Yeah, why?
tim pool
This would mean that their advertisers selecting, I want my ad.
It's like, imagine there's a toothpaste company being like, run my toothpaste on ads about Erica Kirk.
unidentified
Yeah, why?
tim pool
That doesn't make sense.
Now, it could be automatic.
One theory is that the algorithm updates itself based on the viewing patterns and then seeks to find the biggest return.
So the algorithm on Google Ads runs the ads across the board and finds a concentration in this area where they sell a lot.
And it just so happens for some reason to overlap with Erica Kirk content.
YouTube's Alien Ecosystem Theory 00:15:51
tim pool
Either way, it is weird.
If it is emergent, it is very weird.
I honestly don't believe it is emergent because it's too specific.
Charlie Kirk is assassinated, and then a media campaign props up to destroy his wife.
So, you get the assassination of a man followed by the character assassination of his wife.
It just doesn't seem like an accident, you know?
jayne zirkle
I mean, we know big tech has meddled in our elections.
That's like a known fact.
So, I don't think it would be far fetched to say that they're, you know, seeking to destroy our society and our peace and patriotism.
tim pool
And Turning Point was a major player in helping Donald Trump get elected.
And whatever you believe about the Charlie Kirk assassination aside, after the fact, I would not be surprised to find prominent leftists at Google and YouTube saying, Put your thumb on the scale against Erica Kirk.
We will make sure Turning Point is destroyed.
Look at what these people say behind the scenes.
Look at what they're willing to do in the streets.
Look at what their judges are willing to do.
Is it at all possible that there are people at YouTube who would look over their shoulder, look around, and then type in?
phil labonte
And that also.
I mean, not only is it possible, I don't think that it's particularly far fetched either.
I mean, you see the, like you said, you've seen all kinds of effort by the left to put their thumb on the scale anytime they get the chance to.
So, I don't think that it's some kind of ridiculous theory at all.
tim pool
I can confirm YouTube has its thumb on the scale 100%, can confirm right now.
That's how I know.
Several months ago, YouTube granted me the handle at Tim Pool, which had been largely unused.
Some German guy wasn't using it, was sitting on it.
And so I said, okay.
So I made youtube.com slash at Tim Pool, where I put videos that I feel like making.
Some are political, some are very similar to what we do here.
And a lot of them in recent have been about gaming laws, Pokemon, Magic the Gathering.
And just if I have something to talk about that's unrelated, I'll put it there.
Well, something interesting happened.
There was a video that I did about a homeless woman grabbing a homeless woman.
You may have seen the viral video.
I got a copyright flag on it.
Well, it's fair use, outright fair use.
I am commenting specifically on the homeless issue from what these people in the video were doing, heavily criticizing them for doing it.
So I counter saying this is fair use, sue me.
They counter with we will give you a strike and you must remove the video.
unidentified
Now, whoa.
tim pool
I make these videos 15 times a day, and I've never gotten that one time on Timcast IRL, Timcast, or Timcast News.
So I can't even appeal it.
It says you will get a strike.
The video will be removed.
Then, when you sue them, you can submit the paperwork to YouTube to get the video, to get the strike put on hold or something.
And I'm like, what?
I've been on this platform for 16 years and never experienced this.
So I emailed my liaisons, my contacts at YouTube, and they said there's nothing we can do about it.
Well, sure enough, I contacted the copyright holder and the company, and they apologized.
First, they tried claiming it's not fair use.
Then I said, Come on, bro.
And they released it.
Then I asked YouTube this important question Why is it that on Timcast IRL, Timcast News, and Timcast, three channels all over a million, I have never once been flagged for copyright, despite making all of the exact same videos?
But this new channel, I've gotten flagged maybe 10 times already.
libby emmons
Really?
Already?
tim pool
Wow.
In the matter of a few months, with only like 30 or 40 videos.
So that would mean one of two things.
There is a shield placed on this channel and others that prevent copyright claims from disrupting the show.
Perhaps it's a platform wide thing where if you have over a million subscribers, they default to, we're not going to let you take these videos down because they're established channels that typically know what they're doing.
This new channel has only around 87, 88,000 subs, so they're like, no protections for you.
There could be something else that is foul play.
There could be a restraint on these channels that acts as a de facto shield.
Somewhat inadvertently.
And this is what I submitted to Google.
I said, I can conclude one of two things.
I said, if you are shielding my main channels, either as an intentional thing personally for me or because YouTube has a protection for large channels, then I am grateful.
If, however, you have put a restraint on my channels that isolates it from the YouTube ecosystem, thus, copyright doesn't exit this bubble and enter our isolated sphere, well, now I'm mildly perturbed.
The argument I'm making is this YouTube, perhaps, Has the main YouTube body of prominent, well known shows they promote, and they have isolated off a mini YouTube that is a separate ecosystem that does not interact with the main body of work.
If you are on that main platform and you submit a copyright notice, the algorithm automatically attacks anything in that sphere that is using those videos, which captures my new channel, which was just made.
And the channels outside of it in the isolated shadow ban bubble will not be impacted, not on purpose, but because they are a detached node that YouTube is isolating intentionally.
libby emmons
That's pretty wild.
tim pool
Which would explain why Candace Owens is propped up and recommended to new users who just signed up for YouTube and why people constantly complain why, even after watching the show every single night, It doesn't appear on even my channel page because it appears that there's what's called a tiny room shadow ban on this channel.
Or I'm completely wrong about everything, who knows?
I can only say this it is a fact that I have never, that in the past three years, we have not received any copyright claims on my principal channels, but the new channel is getting them like crazy.
Another theory would be that new channels have weights put on them to prevent new personalities from rising up and causing problems.
libby emmons
That's possible too.
unidentified
Yeah.
libby emmons
Yeah.
I know when I want to watch the show, I have to go directly to the Timcast YouTube page.
tim pool
Not only that, but people have complained that it's not there.
unidentified
They'll go to YouTube page.
tim pool
They'll go to youtube.com slash Timcast IRL, and we will be 10 minutes into the show, and it will not be on the page.
phil labonte
There's a difference between premium and regular YouTube?
Yeah, because I have premium, and every night I just refresh my homepage on YouTube, and we're always right there at the top left.
tim pool
I think two things.
There are leftists at Google that have intentionally done illicit things.
To further advance their look, I mean, some of these people threaten with death.
It's not even that big of a deal that someone working at Google walks in a room, opens a computer, and then says, Shadow ban.
But I also think we know that intelligence agencies had access to Twitter and Facebook and were flagging for removal.
So I would not be surprised if it wasn't even that political.
It was just Google gets an email from the FBI saying, Put a weight on this channel.
unidentified
And they go, Okay.
carter banks
It's also this thing that happens when, like, you go live, you're supposed to have your little circle lights up.
Look at the ring around it.
We don't have that.
A lot of times people are always complaining about it.
unidentified
Very strange.
libby emmons
That is weird.
tim pool
Indeed.
Yep.
I think it makes sense that YouTube intentionally creates nodes.
There is the principal main body, which is Mr. Beast, will always be promoted to everyone everywhere.
And they probably go, We don't want recommendations going to channels like this one.
If people, but you can't ban outright, right?
We don't break the rules or anything, but you can't ban outright because it would create a massive PR storm.
So they say, Tiny Room Shadow Ban.
Create a node where only the people who already have accessed the channel can access it.
No new users will.
Anyone who signs up after this date will never see this channel.
phil labonte
Could be.
tim pool
Could be.
I think so.
I do.
Let's jump to this next story from Mediaite.
Ladies and gentlemen, Tim Burchett says America would become unglued if we got his alien briefings, pushes for public release anyway.
He was asked about Matt Gaetz's claim that the military briefed him on alien breeding programs where, well, I'm going to extrapolate from what he said women are kidnapped to be impregnated by aliens.
I just want to make something very clear.
Matt Gaetz stated in The Benny Show.
That he was briefed.
They're alien hybridization programs where people are captured from war zones and migrant caravans for alien hybrid breeding so that the alien hybrids can communicate between both species.
Well, the implication, of course, is that they're women because men don't need to be kidnapped in order to get their genetic material.
libby emmons
No.
tim pool
Women need to be held if they're going to provide their bodies for the creation of life.
So it sounds like that's what he's saying.
Tim Burchett was asked about this and said, I can't comment because I'm still in Congress, but if America got the briefings that I got, It would become unglued.
Now, I want to show this from Space Weather News in response to this.
Native Patriot says new meteors in Costa Rica.
Is Space Force fighting a battle we're not allowed to know about?
What's actually going on?
Take a look at this video.
unidentified
Wow.
Compañeros.
tim pool
That's crazy, right?
unidentified
Increíble.
Increíble.
phil labonte
Look at that.
tim pool
Still going.
Hard to see here, but I'll go back to the beginning.
unidentified
Wow.
Wow.
Look at that.
tim pool
Even the dog's freaking out.
So here's space weather news.
Sun weatherman.
Guys, these are not meteors.
This is space debris or a type of landing craft we cannot fathom.
Not meteors.
Same story as last week.
We have seen an insane amount of.
Of media reports or lights in the sky or vehicles.
Owen Schroyer said he saw UFOs flying around.
One burst into flames and fell, and the other two sped off.
People tried claiming he was just looking at condensation trails.
It's like he didn't describe that.
Owen Schroyer knows what it is.
If you want to call it a chemtrail or contrail, the man knows exactly what those things are.
InfoWars has reported on those quite a bit.
He saw something else as he described it.
Something's going on.
Could it be that Artemis 2 is not actually a trip to the moon, but a delegation going to intercept the aliens for negotiations?
libby emmons
And they're hanging out on the other side of the moon, and that's why they have to go over there?
tim pool
No, we're just claiming they're, but they're actually going to the Orbital Galactic Federation space.
So they needed a cover for why they're launching humans, and they're launching humans to go negotiate with the aliens who are fighting us.
libby emmons
What I think is the most amazing thing about all of the alien reveals that we've had over the past several years is that nobody's.
tim pool
They coincide with Hunter Biden?
libby emmons
No, well, there was that too.
But no one seems to care.
Like, no one cares.
tim pool
That's the conspiracy theory.
phil labonte
I don't buy it.
jayne zirkle
I feel like illegal aliens are more harm than actual aliens.
tim pool
Well, that we know of.
unidentified
That we know of.
libby emmons
You talk to people about it.
You're like, to your friends, did you hear about this thing?
tim pool
That's the point, though.
The conspiracy is that when humans discovered aliens, they knew that if they brought aliens down to Earth, it would cause massive economic destabilization, panic, riots.
And so, over the past 15 or 20 years, they have been gradually introducing more and more information to the public.
That normalizes the existence of UFOs and aliens.
For example, we discussed the O'Hare UFO incident.
I had just left working at O'Hare two months prior and had friends who were there.
And I had a friend who was on Mannheim Road who said he got out, looked up, and saw the UFO hovering over the airport.
It's a well known incident, one of the most famous.
Could it be that that incident was intentionally done to create a brief glimpse in a small pocket of people and then leave so these stories of UFOs become normalized over 20 years?
And then by the time I'm.
I was 18 at the time.
unidentified
Was I 18?
tim pool
I might have been 20.
2004.
So, no, I was, was it?
No, it was six.
It was 2006, right?
Just 2006.
So now, 20 years later, I'm like, oh, yeah, I've heard tons about UFOs and aliens.
And so you're desensitized to when the aliens actually do come.
An entire generation of people are like, yeah, yeah, yeah, we know this.
We know already.
libby emmons
So that people, so that it's intentionally done, so that people are softened to the idea that there's aliens.
And then the next thing you know, there's like, you know, Klingons walking among us or whatever.
tim pool
So I imagine one way they do it is right.
If I was working in government intelligence and they said, we need to, how do we introduce the idea of extraterrestrial life to humans who believe we're mostly or likely alone?
Well, you do what you're doing right now with Obama saying, of course aliens exist.
I mean, like, probability wise, I don't mean literally.
Then you get Matt Gaetz saying aliens exist.
Everyone hears these stories, start to rationalize it in their mind.
The next thing you do is you have unknown objects in the sky.
You wait a year or two and everyone's used to seeing these strange things.
Then you have a story of like military intervention and a video comes out showing a vehicle and we're like, we don't know what these things are.
Slow and gradual introduction.
And then minor communications like, we're getting signals from an object.
What could this be?
People get normalized, they get bored with it.
And then finally, they're like, there's, then everyone sees something hovering over DC.
Wow, another one of these things.
Remember 10 years ago when we first started seeing them?
Then five years later, It lands and people are like, Oh, look at that.
libby emmons
It's just the aliens.
unidentified
Yep.
jayne zirkle
Well, JD Vance said he thinks that they're demons and that he's going to go to Area 51 to go investigate.
So that should be interesting to see what he finds.
unidentified
I'm so glad.
tim pool
What book was that?
There was a story about aliens come and they look like demons and they take control of like technology and Earth and everyone's very happy.
We talked about it on the show before.
They made a TV show about it.
unidentified
The glasses.
tim pool
The what?
libby emmons
The glasses.
unidentified
The Twilight glasses, man.
tim pool
No, that's they live.
unidentified
That's they live.
tim pool
There is a story about aliens come to Earth and they.
And no one sees them.
They start granting technology.
And then after several years, they say, okay, now we're going to reveal ourselves to you.
And they come out looking like gigantic devils with horns and wings.
phil labonte
Childhood's End?
tim pool
Is that what it was?
phil labonte
I don't know.
libby emmons
That's Arthur C. Clarke.
phil labonte
Yeah.
I just Googled a book about aliens that come to you.
tim pool
The chat knows.
All you got to do is wait 10 seconds and then the collective intelligence, Childhood's End.
Yeah.
carter banks
So they're slaying it.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And then what happens is they sterilize everybody or something.
Is that what it is?
libby emmons
I don't remember.
tim pool
And then take the kids away or something like that.
libby emmons
Read part of that book and didn't finish it.
phil labonte
I'm so black pilled on aliens being aliens from a different like star system being here.
I'm not buying it.
libby emmons
You don't think it's real?
phil labonte
I don't think it's real.
I could be moved if there were a discover if if they were like like shown like look, this is it.
This is the ship.
This is the alien.
This is how it works.
As we understand physics right now, that is not happening.
libby emmons
That's sort of what I wonder too.
I mean, we've sent so many probes and things out there and to get up.
Absolutely no real response.
phil labonte
We've all been.
libby emmons
And I think it has something to do with how willing you are to believe how.
Do you remember how many things are actually hidden from view?
phil labonte
Well, so first of all, that's true.
There's a lot of stuff that we don't see.
There's a lot of things that we don't understand.
And there's a lot of different ways that the universe could actually be constituted that we don't actually perceive because we're not designed to see the universe the way that it really is, first of all.
Second of all, all of the.
Messages and radio waves and stuff that have left the Earth, they've only gone about 100 light years.
So that's actually only a handful in the galactic scale, a handful of stars that we could actually.
The Block Universe Dimension 00:04:12
tim pool
That may be true, but inadvertently, the signals we've been broadcasting have been creating perturbations in the subspace radio frequency, which has reached faster than light.
Again, they needed to find a way to explain how they talked to the Federation of the Planet, so they created subspace.
It's like faster than light radio.
phil labonte
Yeah, I could be moved from this position if there is new physics that we discover or there is a ship that's shown.
But as of right now, the way we understand the speed of light, because the speed of light isn't just the speed of light, the speed of light is the speed of causality.
unidentified
Right.
phil labonte
To a photon that moves, time doesn't happen to a photon.
It just starts here and it ends there.
unidentified
That's it.
tim pool
Again, but that's meaningless to a higher dimensional being.
phil labonte
Sure.
Again, I'm open to other ideas.
tim pool
So, you know, Alex Jones and others have talked about the aliens are not extraterrestrial.
They're extradimensional.
They're from a higher plane.
libby emmons
So, not a lower plane, like JD Vance says.
tim pool
A lower plane?
Yeah, so they're two dimensional.
Or I guess two dimensional with a third dimension for time.
The interesting thing about it is if you existed in a higher dimension, like you were a four dimensional being, well, we are technically four dimensional beings, sort of.
We can manipulate three dimensions and we free fall through the fourth.
If you were existing in full control of the fourth dimension, but free falling through the fifth, you would perceive time as space.
So it would be like imagine if you can go into a building and you're like, oh, this hotel is 100 rooms.
It's a one bedroom apartment with 100 rooms.
1999, 2000, 2001, 2002.
phil labonte
The block universe.
unidentified
Like, what?
phil labonte
Well, there's a theory of the block universe.
So, like, there's a theory that we experience time by linear time.
tim pool
We're falling through it.
phil labonte
Yeah.
But there's a theory that the way that the universe is actually created, like, they actually exist is there is no linear time that time is a part of space.
So, it's called, like, they call it space time.
So, like, there is no future or past if you're outside of time.
Like, the block universe is like, it's like, think of a, like, a, a, a, Piece of bread, like that's sliced up into pieces.
In the block universe, you can go to any point in time and just like you go to any location.
tim pool
This is my theory on ghosts.
I think that ghosts are actually vagrant demons.
So they're extra dimensional beings that are effectively homeless.
So here's what happens.
Like, let's say you're a fifth dimensional being, but you're a drug addict.
Where do you go live?
You know?
The reason we can't perceive them is because they move through time the way we move through space.
So there's no point at which we're actually going to see their bodies interact with photons.
In time, because the times aren't moving in their dimension.
But would you want to live in a tiny box?
No, you want to live in a mansion.
So, what do you do?
As an extra dimensional being, you choose to live in the biggest possible building, which is the oldest.
So, very, very old buildings are haunted.
unidentified
Why?
tim pool
Extra dimensional beings are like, bro, this house has been around since 1700.
It's got 300 years to live in.
And so, it's like the way they perceive us is like a long snake moving from room to room and the people coming and going, and they just avoid us.
Don't walk into a person in their frame of time, walk past or between them.
So we can't see them because at any moment we're a single frame and they can move between those frames.
libby emmons
So they're like, highlight zone episode.
tim pool
They're chilling in the living room, sitting on the couch in a single stitch of time, that in a fraction of a nanosecond.
And then there's like two aliens, and he's like, oh, bro, hey, do me a favor, go back to 1980 and grab me a tab.
It's like, oh, okay, I'll be right back.
And then he runs to 1980, opens the fridge, grabs the tab, and then the person comes in the house and goes, where's my soda?
I bought soda.
It's missing.
Turn the light if it's bothering me.
The light turns off.
unidentified
Right.
jayne zirkle
So, if the U.S. government knows that there's aliens, does that mean that they should start deploying Ghostbusters?
phil labonte
No, the ghosts and aliens are different.
Brain Capture and Aliens 00:16:01
tim pool
Yeah.
And the theory is that if you consume DMT, you can see them.
The theory, I say the wackaloon guess, we'll call it that.
I did drugs and I saw stuff.
Yes, you were on drugs.
libby emmons
Well, that happens when you do drugs.
tim pool
I knew a guy once.
libby emmons
I've been very questionable.
I've found the whole DMT thing sort of questionable because people talk about it as though they see deities.
tim pool
Yeah, the machine elves.
Just strange beings.
I knew a guy once when I was a teenager, and he said, I swear, dude, I saw a UFO.
Like, I came out of my house.
I was like hanging with my friends in the basement.
I came outside to smoke a cigarette, and I looked up, and I swear to God, a ship came down and it hovered right over the house.
And then I was like, Are you being for real?
And he's like, Yeah.
And then I was like, What happened?
He's like, Well, me and my friends were downstairs.
We were doing a ton of acid.
And then I went up and I went, Okay.
libby emmons
Okay.
Well, that's what's going to happen.
Yeah, I mean, I took acid one time, and I saw a giant cat jump out of my closet, but, you know, 20 seconds later, it wasn't there.
unidentified
Or it was.
libby emmons
Or was it?
It was an alien in a different time.
phil labonte
The idea of you doing those kind of drugs makes me laugh.
unidentified
Really?
phil labonte
Yeah, it does.
libby emmons
That's very funny.
tim pool
I think there is something.
I think the government knows what it is.
I think the government interacts with whatever is going on.
The stuff that people are seeing in the sky, I don't think is just random.
Like, we're not going through a meteor shower or anything.
libby emmons
Yeah, it is fascinating, right?
I mean, because on the other side, we're probably never going to know.
The truth.
tim pool
What if Trump formed the Space Force specifically because we detected an alien threat coming?
And they were like, we have 10 years to prepare for this.
And he's like, we have to create a space force.
libby emmons
Is that why he used the Star Trek symbol?
carter banks
Maybe that's why he had Elon Musk in the.
unidentified
Right.
libby emmons
Yeah.
I mean, it would really be bizarre.
Do you think we'd all come together as a species of humans, or do you think we'd fracture a party for that?
I think it would get even worse.
unidentified
Yeah.
libby emmons
I think it would get even worse.
tim pool
And then what if it turned out that the Iranians were colluding with the aliens to enslave humanity?
Would you then support the war with Iran?
libby emmons
Would I support the war with Iran if they were colluding with aliens?
tim pool
Like, let's say Trump came out and was like, What if yesterday's speech he was like, This may be shocking to most Americans, but aliens are real.
unidentified
They're here.
tim pool
They've declared war on us and they've aligned themselves with Iran.
And that's why we went to war.
Like, what do you think people would do?
I think you'd get more support.
I think support for the war would skyrocket.
libby emmons
I think so, too.
And I also think you'd have CNN coming out being like, There's no aliens.
Chuck Schumer wandering around being like, He's just trying to distract from the high gas prices.
tim pool
It would be the craziest thing if Chuck Schumer came out and went like, There actually are aliens, and Trump is not wrong.
Everyone would just drop a load right there.
phil labonte
Yeah, that would definitely fill pants around.
tim pool
You know what?
libby emmons
That would cure our craving for a collective culture.
We'd all be obsessed with it.
jayne zirkle
United against the aliens.
tim pool
What if Trump came out and said that we are in the messianic era and Iran has aligned itself with demons?
These are not fictional beings, these are real entities that have been fighting us.
Do you think people would get behind Trump?
I think they would.
libby emmons
I mean, you'd have to have people believe him first.
I think there's so many people who don't believe in any kind of skepticism.
tim pool
I think there's enough.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I'm saying, I'm not saying everybody would believe him.
I'm saying his support would go up.
I'm saying there's a bunch of regular people who go, whoa.
libby emmons
Well, if you'd believe, the question is, do you believe it?
tim pool
I think there's a lot of people who believe anything the president says.
unidentified
Really?
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
carter banks
Also, a lot of people that believe in aliens.
unidentified
Yeah.
libby emmons
Just because they don't know any of these people.
phil labonte
Just because it's a lot doesn't mean it's the most important thing.
unidentified
Go to Times Square.
libby emmons
What, with like all the NPCs wandering and bumping in?
tim pool
And be like, you could walk up to them and say, the president just said that he was going to give everyone $3 million.
How do you feel about that?
unidentified
They go, wow.
tim pool
Really?
And you go, yeah.
libby emmons
And people that stand in a little circle while the spinny light thing goes around so they can make TikTok videos.
tim pool
I have an idea for a funny prank, and it's to create a line.
libby emmons
No, it can't be.
That can't be true, Phil.
That can't be their majority.
phil labonte
You need to listen to Michael Malice more.
Most people are.
tim pool
I got an idea for a social experiment that I think would be really funny and would work.
You create a line.
And you have signs saying, like, $300 gift card, please wait here.
And the line wraps around a block and then connects to itself.
libby emmons
Yeah, I think so.
tim pool
They're all slowly just walking forward around a block.
jayne zirkle
Like most lines in Soho these days.
tim pool
Yep.
And then, like, I bet it would keep going.
I bet people would just keep going.
Maybe what you do, you have it go into a building and out a side door.
And then when someone enters the building, there's someone there who goes, You're here for the gift card.
Just the line continues through here.
And then people see the building and they're like, Oh, wow.
And then they all just keep going back around.
I bet they would just keep doing it.
I bet people would stand there for a couple hours before realizing something was off.
jayne zirkle
Better than missing your flight at TSA and doing that, which a lot of people had to do before ICE was in there.
unidentified
That's true.
phil labonte
Yeah.
libby emmons
I think that I hate that that could be true.
I really hate that.
I don't want that to be true for our fellow human beings.
phil labonte
Listen, Michael Malice is right.
People are not truth seeking, they are narrative seeking.
Anything that confirms their bias, they believe.
And most people don't think of anything at all.
They just hear stuff and repeat it.
And I'm talking about the vast majority.
libby emmons
Like human beings are storytellers.
Like we are nothing if not the stories we tell each other about ourselves.
You know, I mean, that's what we are going back to the beginning of time.
Like we tell stories.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Let's go back to the Pam Bondi.
We got the story from the Irish Star.
South Park responds to Pam Bondi firing with a savage eight word callback.
South Park skewered Attorney General Pam Bondi in a Halloween episode last year, depicting her with feces on her face every time she praised President Trump.
Well, they reposted it today, and it's nasty, so I'm not going to show.
You can watch another show if you want.
I don't either.
unidentified
After show.
tim pool
But what's really interesting about this is we call this brain rot.
That is, Parker and Stone have brain rot.
And I watched this really great YouTube video that I recommend you guys search for.
Because I don't remember, it was just recommended to me why I stopped watching South Park.
And the guy explains the jokes that South Park has begun producing are so hyper political, the average person won't understand them.
And he said, as somebody who doesn't really care that much for the political fight, I watched this.
And he was like, they make references to.
Unknown Trump administration personnel, like Dan Scavino?
Who's that?
And I'm like, well, I know who Dan Scavino is, but it's true.
They make fun of Dan Scavino.
Go to anybody in this country and ask them, and they're going to be like, I don't know who that is.
libby emmons
I literally know who Dan Scavino is because I've been on Laura Trump's show with Aaron Elmore, who he recently got married to, and I've seen their pictures on Instagram.
That's why I know who he is.
tim pool
The point ultimately with this, I can tell you his position.
The issue is, We are seeing the brain capture of people.
These are not jokes.
These are, hey, here's a group of people that you've heard of you hate.
And for many regular people, they're like, I don't know what you're talking about.
And I think this is one of the biggest problems we have in TV shows and movies right now.
We got to get away from it.
Another point I want to make there was a great meme where it was Trey Parker said that his daughter said to him, You're acting derpy.
And he goes, What did you say to me?
And she goes, Derpy.
You wouldn't know what it meant.
And he says, Oh, yeah, look it up.
He's the one who made the word up.
libby emmons
He made it up.
tim pool
Imagine that.
Like, you know, you're a kid and you look up and it's like your dad invented the word you use.
You're like, oh, that's really weird.
But I contrast this with here's a guy who created so many memes.
It is ubiquitous on par with The Simpsons.
The Simpsons coined many, many terms and phrases.
Yoink, you know what that means?
That's from The Simpsons.
Meh, from The Simpsons.
Saying the quiet part loud, from The Simpsons.
There's a ton of these.
Cromulant and Biggin.
South Park also has a bunch of these, of which Derp is one of them.
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
But now he has isolated himself into this tiny bubble of fringe nonsense that regular people don't relate to anymore.
jayne zirkle
I mean, I just wish America was allowed to laugh again and not, you know, be forced to constantly fixate on politics and division.
And that's what's ultimately sowing, you know, all this hate within the culture.
We're not just allowed to enjoy things that are genuinely funny anymore.
You know, I just want to go back to the days of Cartman crying to his mom in a Best Buy about not being allowed to buy an iPad or Towley and Mr. Hankey.
Like, why can't we just enjoy those things?
tim pool
One of the best episodes is when.
He wants the Nintendo Wii, so he freezes himself.
And when he wakes up in the future, they don't have it anymore.
And when they finally get it, the adapters don't work, which is all like kind of common sense, funny things we've dealt with.
Now it's here's Pam Bondi with feces on her face.
And I got to be honest, I know a lot of people are going to be like, who?
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
jayne zirkle
It really started in around 2020, I feel like, with them making fun of Rudy and Trump in the Oval Office with the election stuff.
unidentified
Yeah.
carter banks
Mr. Garrison and Trump.
unidentified
Yes.
Yes.
jayne zirkle
And honestly, that one episode with the rallying in Myrtle Beach was kind of funny.
But aside from that, it's just too niche and it's too critical.
It's not what South Park used to even be.
unidentified
Yeah.
carter banks
It's a far cry from the Pinewood Derby with Baby Farx McGee's in it.
tim pool
Yeah, that was funny.
It was nonsense.
Or when Cartman made Scott Tenement eat his own parents.
unidentified
Oh, my gosh.
tim pool
There's nothing there but shock and obscenity.
And it was just messed up.
jayne zirkle
What's your favorite South Park episode?
unidentified
Oh, man.
tim pool
I don't know.
I mean, probably that one.
That's why I referenced it.
Where Radiohead walks up and they're like, he's crying like a little baby.
unidentified
Not a baby.
Not cool.
tim pool
And he's like, no, Radiohead.
Or Casa Bonita is a good one.
jayne zirkle
You know, they opened a real Casa Bonita in Denver.
tim pool
They have a real version of it.
It's the show is referencing the real Casa Bonita.
jayne zirkle
Yeah, but they bought it.
Like, oh, they bought it.
It closed down and they bought it and now they own it.
phil labonte
That's awesome.
tim pool
South Park was massively culturally relevant and they have relegated themselves to a tiny pocket of fringe wackaloons who are 70 years old and hate Trump and know everything about him.
libby emmons
But what is culturally relevant anymore?
Like, what is what captures what?
tim pool
Landman.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Landman, I think they do 16 million per episode.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
It's a good show.
tim pool
And Landman mocks Woke.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
It's a good show.
tim pool
And then Star Trek, Starfleet Academy was doing a million per episode and got canceled.
libby emmons
Yeah, it did.
Even though the last two episodes weren't that bad.
unidentified
What?
libby emmons
The last two episodes of Starfleet Academy weren't that bad.
unidentified
Really?
libby emmons
My son and I, we were hate watching it, you know?
And then the last two episodes weren't that bad.
And we looked it up.
Jonathan Frakes directed the penultimate episode of the first one.
But now we're on to Invincible.
jayne zirkle
Oh, you know what they really did?
libby emmons
Did you watch The Invincible last night, Tim?
tim pool
I have not yet seen it.
I'll watch it tonight.
unidentified
All right.
jayne zirkle
You know what they really did?
unidentified
Was it good?
libby emmons
Oh, yes.
It was good.
unidentified
Okay.
libby emmons
I'm still like wondering what happens now.
Big cliffhanger.
Big cliffhanger.
tim pool
Oh, but it's not the season finale, is it?
No.
Invincible's been pretty good.
My only problem is that Adam Eve's powers are to reshape matter and she doesn't.
And I'm like, she just makes energy, even though she could literally turn the air around someone into lead.
libby emmons
She could, but now she can't do anything.
tim pool
Because she's having a baby.
libby emmons
She's pregnant.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
Just turns her powers off.
unidentified
It does.
libby emmons
It turns the powers off.
unidentified
They say that?
tim pool
Well, I'll just watch tonight's episode.
Yeah, Land Man, I think, is like one of the biggest shows on TV right now with massive, massive viewership.
And I'm worried because I don't know what we'll do without Billy Bob.
phil labonte
I want to watch.
Did he pass away or something?
tim pool
No, I'm just saying he's old.
phil labonte
Yeah, he is.
And he's epic.
tim pool
He's amazing.
phil labonte
I watched like three episodes of it, the first three episodes or four episodes.
I think it was on.
I think it was on Hulu where you could watch them to try and get you to get Paramount.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
And I'm going to end up getting Paramount to watch it.
I'm pretty sure I'm watching it.
tim pool
They have tons of landman scenes that just criticize woke.
Like it's written just to make fun of pronouns that once in a while went viral.
libby emmons
I haven't watched it.
Should I actually watch it?
tim pool
Oh, it's amazing.
The scene where he, like, it really is relevant to me when the famous scene where he brings the young female lawyer out to some wind turbines and she goes, worried about green energy encroaching on your land.
And then Billy Bob goes, not green, alternative.
These wind turbines aren't here to generate energy for the grid.
They're off grid generating energy for oil pumps because we can't get transmission lines out here.
And a lot of people don't realize wind turbines are placed in remote areas where they want to pump oil but can't get power lines in.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
Do you think it's green energy?
unidentified
It's not.
libby emmons
Well, that's why on, I think it was the Navajo Hopi Reservation, there was like a huge push for solar panels just to create shade structures with refrigerators underneath them so people could keep their insulin cold.
unidentified
Wow.
libby emmons
People had diabetes.
And that's what the solar energy was used for.
And that's great.
Like, it's a great use of solar energy.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
Especially like, you know, the fact that you can actually put the cooler right underneath the solar array and put out a little chair, too, in the shade.
You have some drinks in there, too, probably.
unidentified
I think that's what you said.
phil labonte
Probably some beers.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
Some beers.
tim pool
I wonder about a chair.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
There's the conspiracy theory that anytime someone makes a breakthrough in high energy return on energy investment technologies like fusion, the U.S. government kills them because it will disrupt the petrodollar system.
libby emmons
What's this thing where, like, recently there's been people who are really excelling in their fields and engineering getting killed in their houses by random homeless people?
phil labonte
Six different people.
tim pool
A bunch of scientists.
And they work on aerospace propulsion.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
tim pool
At the same time, when people are seeing alien ships in the sky and the general who worked on UFO stuff disappears.
unidentified
Right.
libby emmons
That's crazy.
tim pool
I think we might be at war with aliens, guys.
libby emmons
And we just don't, nobody's told us.
tim pool
Do you want to know?
libby emmons
If we were at war with aliens, I would want to know that.
tim pool
I would.
unidentified
You know why?
libby emmons
Yeah, I would.
tim pool
I'd start digging.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I'd be like, I don't know how far down I got to go, but we're going way deep.
jayne zirkle
What if they're demons and then they come up?
tim pool
Well, they're in space.
libby emmons
I don't think there's demons in the center of Earth.
tim pool
I mean, actually, I will say this.
If I started digging and went so far down that a portal to hell opened up and demons came out, I guess we'd know something.
jayne zirkle
We're doomed from both ends.
libby emmons
We'd know something new.
tim pool
Actually, that's a really funny bit.
It's like we keep digging and then we find a portal to hell and then the demons come out, but then the aliens start fighting the demons.
And then humans just are like, I have no idea what's going on.
libby emmons
What are we doing?
unidentified
We're just going to find some trees in the middle.
libby emmons
And then we just hide out in the Appalachian Mountains.
Which are like one of the oldest places on Earth.
tim pool
And immune to the great flood that's coming when the axis tilts.
libby emmons
There you go.
tim pool
Yeah, so when you look at the great flood maps, the theory about the axis is going to shift 90 degrees or whatever.
Ben Davidson talks quite a bit about this that we're not just going to see the poles flip, but when they do, the earth will tilt.
And then when that happens, a flood will wash over everywhere, but the Appalachian Mountains will be one of the only places left untouched by the flood.
libby emmons
So that guy who was building the ark in Tennessee, he gave up too soon.
tim pool
Well, it's principally going to be central West Virginia ish, where there's like a diagram showing the water.
libby emmons
So we're lost?
tim pool
Where we are will largely be safe, yes.
libby emmons
Oh, that's not bad.
unidentified
Yep.
Look at that.
tim pool
Yeah, and you know, I'm not supposed to say this, but it's probably late enough in the campaign that it doesn't matter.
But we moved to West Virginia, and the reason why Mount Weather and Raven Rock are within 10 to 15 miles of here is because we have all been briefed as prominent CIA selected media personalities to survive the Great Flood, which is coming in three or four years.
And I figure at this point you can't do anything about it.
So I'll tell you now.
West Virginia Water Safety 00:04:25
tim pool
And that's a joke, but I'm sure there are people out there freaking out being like, it's not joking.
jayne zirkle
Or it's just Googling it and asking, did they give you a binder on it?
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
But here's the funny thing there are people who believe it's impossible to succeed organically in media.
And that all, like, I actually met a guy and he was like, hey, man, I watch your show.
And he was like, is it real?
And then I'm like, is what real?
I was like, like, your show.
And I'm like, yes.
And he's like, no, but like, all of this stuff's not scripted.
And I'm like, what stuff?
And he's like, with Candace and like Tucker.
And I was like, it's all real.
And he was like, it's not like the government puts you there.
There are people who genuinely don't think it's possible because they can't do it and they can't understand how.
So they project and think Tim Cast and Candace Tucker and, you know, Cenk Ueger must be selected by the elites to be the play actors on the great stage of the narrative machine.
libby emmons
That'd be pretty weird.
tim pool
I mean, I wish it would be less stressful.
phil labonte
Can you blame them though?
jayne zirkle
It's less stressful, but I mean, for a lot of people, it's like their version of WWE.
phil labonte
It is, yeah.
I mean, can you really blame people for kind of being like that?
Like, they don't know, people don't have any idea what's real.
They don't, all the institutions, they don't trust them anymore.
And now you've got AI basically, you know, annihilating their brains with videos and stuff that you literally can't tell the difference from real.
Only, or you can only tell the difference between whether it's real or not by what's happening in it.
And you have to be like, Okay, that's too absurd to be real.
But there's, you know, the videos of people going down these like, you know, mile high water slides, and it's like, oh, he just fell off the water slide.
That looks just like you would think it would look.
Well, it would fall off a water slide.
tim pool
It's becoming indistinguishable now.
I saw a video of a motorcycle crash.
It was, to me, obvious that it was AI, but the comments, they thought it was surveillance footage, like ring camera on a motorcycle drives by and crashes into a car.
And I'm like, oh, that's clearly AI.
But all the comments were like, whoa, man, he was speeding, like all crazy.
And they're posting memes and GIFs and all that stuff.
libby emmons
I think the younger generations are going to be able to discern it far better.
tim pool
I don't think so.
libby emmons
You don't think so?
tim pool
Nope.
We were talking about this with Jack Pasobic when we watched the Teenage Mate Ninja Turtles at WWE, and it looks real.
The issue is, we know it's not because we lived in 1993.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
Well, some of us did.
And young people who grow up, like, what's it called, Gen Bravo, which are being born now?
libby emmons
That's the last one.
unidentified
After Alpha.
libby emmons
After Alpha, yeah.
tim pool
They are going to grow up where they see.
Macho Man Randy Savage snap into a slim gym and all that stuff.
Then they're going to see the Ninja Turtles and they're going to go, I don't know.
They're both the same thing to me.
They look identical.
There will be no history.
There will be no legacy.
It'll be chaos.
libby emmons
Well, it could be chaos.
But what about, I mean, I guess I just keep sort of holding out hope that people are going to want to know things.
tim pool
They will.
But the problem is there will be someone who is evil and will lie.
libby emmons
It'll be like Futurama when they figure the honeymooners went to the moon.
tim pool
Yep.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
One of these days, Edna.
Bang, zoom, straight to the moon.
He's like, what?
And Leela's like, I never knew early astronauts were so fat.
He wasn't an astronaut.
And he was just using space travel as a metaphor for beating his wife.
phil labonte
One of these days, quality, wholesome entertainment.
tim pool
It was funny that everyone laughed about that back in the day.
Like, one of these days, I'm going to strike you.
libby emmons
What was really interesting about the honeymooners and a lot of those old shows is you look at their apartments.
Right.
tim pool
They had a house, didn't they?
libby emmons
No, they just had an apartment.
unidentified
Really?
Yeah.
libby emmons
With kids?
No, they had no kids.
And they had what's his name?
Ed coming down from upstairs.
Very similar to Lucy and Desi and Ethel.
phil labonte
Well, they had houses.
libby emmons
They had houses.
Eventually.
But not eventually.
tim pool
But they slept in two separate beds.
libby emmons
At first, they lived in an apartment.
But they eventually.
tim pool
Remember when she kept eating all of the chocolates?
unidentified
Yes.
libby emmons
That's a brilliant episode.
But if you look at their apartments, these are not fancy apartments.
They're super basic.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
libby emmons
Everyone in.
2026 has far more expensive crap in their homes.
tim pool
One of the problems with modern society is this you always hear these communists say things like, you know, we're the first generation of it worse than our parents.
Downloading Songs in the Past 00:02:45
tim pool
And I was like, my dad didn't have a cell phone or a TV or a computer when he grew up.
He had an empty apartment and like a couch.
So we have all of these other requirements.
Fair point.
Not necessarily requirements, but to a certain degree, like a cell phone is a requirement now to survive in the modern era.
And so you, it's one of the issues is you can't just live with.
unidentified
Nothing.
tim pool
We used to have payphones.
You didn't have a phone in your house, you'd go outside.
And this is like within our lifetimes.
There are people who are like 60.
It's like, oh yeah, I didn't have a phone in my first apartment.
I'd go outside and use a payphone.
phil labonte
Within living memory.
tim pool
Within living memory.
That's the way to put it.
Now, young people are like, life is so bad and I can't have my own place, which is true, but they do have a computer, a cell phone, a TV.
They have Netflix.
They have access to the summation of human knowledge.
libby emmons
My first apartment, we didn't have a telephone in it and we didn't get a phone.
There was a payphone out front.
Well, when I first had internet, I would call the payphone and then never answer because we didn't actually want to talk to people.
tim pool
So when I was a kid, I would be trying to download a song.
Off of the internet, and you'd get a telemarketer phone call in the middle of it.
phil labonte
Ruin it.
tim pool
Kicking you off the internet.
libby emmons
Totally killing it.
tim pool
And then it would shut off your download, and you'd have to restart.
And it took like four hours to download one MP3.
And I was constantly going, Why can't you put a placeholder on the download?
I don't understand.
Then we got LimeWire and Kazaa in the 2000s, which could.
libby emmons
Right.
tim pool
If the internet went out, it would pause, and then it could start back up.
phil labonte
It was magic.
tim pool
And you weren't allowed to download anyway, but we did.
libby emmons
I remember that too.
We had like whole floppy discs.
tim pool
My favorite thing about like Limewire and Kazaa was some small no name band would upload one of their songs as like a Metallica song.
It would be like, you know, enter Sandman.
And then you'd go to download it and you get some weird band you never heard of.
And I'm just thinking to myself when I was like, I don't know how I was like 14, I was like, I have no idea who this band is.
I will never find out who this band is.
Do they think this strategy will work for them?
Delete.
libby emmons
I remember downloading this one.
A remix of Bjork and Tawate Hyper Ballad, which they did, but it was a remix of that.
And it was so good.
And I can't find it anywhere.
And I never saved it somehow, even though I had it for years.
And now it's gone forever.
And I've looked it up.
And it doesn't, I can't find it.
unidentified
Yeah.
carter banks
Got a lot of demos.
libby emmons
Yeah.
unidentified
Demos are good.
Yeah.
carter banks
Yeah.
phil labonte
When we were putting out our second record, I put three of the songs on the internet for people to download free.
My label got so pissed off.
unidentified
Cost us money.
phil labonte
That was still when people would buy records.
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phil labonte
Well, a little bit.
tim pool
Browsing the CD section at Best Buy?
Browsing the CD section at Best Buy?
phil labonte
Back in the day.
tim pool
Man.
Do malls still exist?
phil labonte
They do.
unidentified
Are they a thing?
tim pool
I'm kidding, by the way, but man, they're so barren these days.
libby emmons
And there's not a decent record store.
tim pool
Man, you know what we got to do?
We got to do my mall store show.
Like Seamus and I had been talking about for a while.
The idea was.
We wanted to open a store in a mall that was random and just changes all the time.
My brother Chris's idea was that we open a gasoline store.
unidentified
Nice.
tim pool
And there's a bunch of shelves with gas cans full of gasoline.
And we sell gas by the gallon.
And it's slightly cheaper than a gas station.
And then when someone says, How do you sell gas cheaper than a gas station?
the response is, Oh, we don't pay taxes.
So it's just like weird stores that make no sense.
Seamus's idea was a store that just has Asians.
And in the store, in the mall, it's a bunch of Asian people standing in random spots looking in random directions.
And then, when someone walks in and says, Excuse me, what is this?
The Asian person goes, Oh, I don't work here.
So it's just like weird things.
We wanted to do a show, like a reality show kind of thing with it.
phil labonte
It's all like Twilight Zone stores, really.
Yeah.
tim pool
A laundromat where when you walk in, there's like one big fat Italian guy standing at the counter and none of the machines are plugged in our work.
And then, when you come in and you're like, I need to do my laundry, he panics.
He's like, Oh, yeah, one second.
And then he goes through a swinging door.
And then when he does, you see the door swing open and there's a bunch of Italian guys shoveling money into duffel bags.
And they look and clearly, you know, not a laundromat, things like that.
We got that idea because I've actually been to a front business before.
There was a restaurant where I lived in Jersey and it had like the sandwich board outside, but we never saw anybody go in or out.
And so one day, my brother and I were like, well, let's go.
We've eaten at a bunch of the restaurants, let's go to this one.
And we walk there and it's like 4 p.m. and we open the door and walk in, and the lights are all off.
And there's like three Italian dudes behind the counter just sitting there, and there's no servers, nothing's going on.
phil labonte
And we're like, This is like the Fratellis from Goonies.
Judicial System Captured by Precedent 00:15:54
tim pool
And then, no joke.
And then I walk in and they're like, Hey, and I was like, Hey, I was like, Oh, and I was like, Are you guys doing food?
And they're like, Oh, no, sorry, not today.
Kitchen is closed today.
And then I was like, Oh, Kitchen closed today.
And then he was like, And then I was like, Okay, can I get something to drink?
And they were like, Yeah, what do you want?
And I was like, Do you have a Coke?
And then one guy goes, Yeah, one second.
Walks in the back.
I swear to God, he walked out the back door and walked to a gas station and came back and he handed me a can of Coke and he was like $1.50.
And then I was like, All right, we're going to go.
And I'm like, This is not a real business.
Because they constantly would have like, We're open and nobody would ever go in.
I wonder if everyone just kind of knew.
phil labonte
Yeah, they're like, Don't go in there.
tim pool
They just need a place where they can write things off.
jayne zirkle
That's the New Jersey daycare center.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Well, at least I'm assuming they weren't scamming the government.
Just trying to clean some drug money or something, huh?
phil labonte
They were scamming the government, but it was a different kind of scam.
tim pool
Sure, sure.
But I just mean, like, I respect the criminal more if it's just ill gotten gains and not stealing my money.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
You know what I mean?
Like, you steal from me, we got a problem.
You are selling otherwise less than legal goods.
I'm not a fan, but you're not stealing from me.
You know what I mean?
unidentified
Yep.
phil labonte
You made your money.
tim pool
Undocumented marketplace, we call it.
phil labonte
Undocumented, yeah.
tim pool
An undocumented marketplace.
phil labonte
Just doesn't have paperwork.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
You know?
tim pool
Let's jump to this last one.
Let's get this last one.
And this one's My friends, the UK has been conquered.
King Charles won't give an address for Easter, but he'll give one for an Islamic holiday.
phil labonte
That's great.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
That's great.
charles-iii
Assalamu alaikum.
Ramadan Mubarak.
Ladies and gentlemen, as Muslims across the United Kingdom and the Commonwealth begin preparations to celebrate Eid after fasting for the holy month of Ramadan, I just wanted to convey my heartfelt best wishes.
tim pool
We got it.
We don't need to hear it.
I think he's converted.
I think he's Muslim.
phil labonte
That might actually be true.
libby emmons
Why don't we see Camilla in hijab, you know, or even better, with a burqa?
She's like the one who.
tim pool
Because they're allowed to lie.
libby emmons
If you see her face, it's okay.
tim pool
They're allowed to lie.
libby emmons
They're just allowed to make shit up.
Excuse me.
tim pool
Well, yes, I think.
It does seem like he's converted.
And if he was speaking with Muslims, they would say, to prevent chaos and riots, you know, don't overplay your hand.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
And I mean, if they did convert, then he certainly would be treading on thin ice if he were to give an Easter message.
libby emmons
Which he declined to give the Easter message.
unidentified
Which he did.
Yeah.
libby emmons
Which I find sort of insane, you know, that he's not giving an Easter message.
jayne zirkle
I mean, it's sort of symbolic of what's happened in his country.
libby emmons
Yeah.
His country is a disaster.
tim pool
I mean, it's called, let's see.
Taqiyah.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
tim pool
It's the Islamic doctrinal concept that permits a Muslim to conceal or deny their faith when facing danger, persecution, or threat of death or harm.
libby emmons
There's also the practice in Islam where if you convert, you can be part of the pillaging and raping and everything.
tim pool
Wait, you can?
unidentified
Yeah.
libby emmons
It's like if you convert, then you're allowed to go on conquest.
You get some share of the booty.
tim pool
Share of the booty?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Both figurative and literal booty?
unidentified
Yeah.
libby emmons
I'm sure.
I mean, you know, what with the way we're.
tim pool
Well, that must be enticing to a lot of young guys.
libby emmons
I guess so.
unidentified
Yeah.
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
Or kings.
libby emmons
I think it's pretty enticing to Charles here, who is seeking to appease all of the Muslims in his nation.
tim pool
I don't know that he's seeking to appease them.
phil labonte
I think he's one of them.
unidentified
Converted.
Yeah.
carter banks
Could he be under duress?
unidentified
No.
jayne zirkle
He's assimilating to those who refuse to.
tim pool
Well, the Commonwealth countries are all very welcoming to Islam.
libby emmons
Yeah.
They really are.
unidentified
Yeah.
libby emmons
But I mean, so is our country.
tim pool
You know, Trump, not so much.
libby emmons
Trump's not so much, but I mean, look at, like, we're losing all of these fights.
You know, you have all of the judges.
Yeah, like, you have all of the judges saying, like, actually, you can't revoke the temporary protected status.
Actually, you can't send these illegal immigrants back.
Actually, you can't do anything about any of these things.
It's like, it doesn't matter what the American people want.
The judiciary is so captured that they're, you know, not allowing anything to change.
tim pool
If a nation's structure is as such that it will be destroyed by its enemies, then it.
Will be destroyed.
unidentified
Yeah.
Right.
tim pool
The United States does not have the statutory capability to protect itself.
That's a fact.
The fact that the Supreme Court is set to rule in favor of keeping birthright citizenship, despite the fact that every argument makes sense.
I'll put it very, very simply for everybody there's no argument against what I'm about to say.
Wong Kim Mark says domiciled.
Fair point.
Illegal immigrants have no allegiance to us.
They've broken our laws and come in here in violation.
You are not allegiant to a power you seek to offend.
That's not allegiance.
That's threat of action against.
So, the Supreme Court should just say if you're a legal, temporary, or permanent resident, that includes tourism through a visa, your child will be a citizen.
If you enter illegally, you clearly have no allegiance, are not domiciled, and subject to removal, your kids will not be.
The fact that John Roberts' statement is, it may be a new time, but it's the same Constitution, he's basically saying, F the United States and your country, we will not protect it.
libby emmons
Well, and also Kavanaugh at the end saying to the ACLU's attorney, Do you want a big win or do you want a little win?
And she was like, I'll take any win.
But it seems pretty clear, listening to the arguments yesterday, that they did not believe that the Solicitor General had any real case to make.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Which is wrong.
libby emmons
Which I think is wrong, too.
Because the other thing, too, is it's not like they can't overturn precedent.
You know, like Wong King Ark was terribly decided from what it looks like.
tim pool
No, I have no problem.
The Solicitor General didn't even argue that it should be overturned.
I think his point is actually pretty simple.
The Supreme Court never ruled on the issue of fast travel birthright, fast travel birth tourism.
And so all we need now is a simple precedent setting opinion from this court as it pertains to a new issue relevant to the facts.
Individuals are not domiciled here, have no allegiance here.
And so be it.
If you think birth tourism should be allowed, then by all means say that.
But you can still at least say if you enter the country illegally, you are not granted or foreign protections.
libby emmons
Well, you also, I think.
There should be some provision to outlaw birther tourism.
There's like 1.5 million allegedly American babies being raised in China by Chinese parents.
And we already know that for people from China to come study in the U.S., that has to be approved by the CCP.
Like, that's not just.
So, any of these people coming back, they are not allegiant to the United States.
They are allegiant to the CCP.
Might make sense.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
It might doesn't make right.
That's a moral point.
libby emmons
It just makes.
tim pool
Those who are willing to exert force and authority will succeed, and those who are not will be destroyed.
libby emmons
And the entire goodwill of the United States is being entirely abused.
And our judicial system, from the lowest court on up, you know, from the lowest court that releases criminals so that they can go murder women at Fairfax bus stops, all the way up to the Supreme Court, are completely captured by this idea that they, like you were saying, they can't do anything.
They won't do anything to protect the United States.
tim pool
So the point is this the Supreme Court, the conservatives, they absolutely have the power to say, yeah, okay, no, like obviously this is an exploitation of the 14th Amendment.
I mean, I think it's a long shot that they do, but it is absurd to me that, you know, if anything, if I was on the court, if there's an honorable court and they felt this was a task for Congress, then the ruling should be Trump's executive order shall stand until Congress intervenes, as this is their role to set these standards.
Instead, it seems like they're going to be like, yeah, we know China's gutting and destroying this country, but yeah, who cares?
unidentified
Mm hmm.
tim pool
It's like, well, okay, then I guess there won't be a United States.
phil labonte
I mean, look, I agree with all of the points being made, but I do think that what they're saying is get Congress to pass a law.
libby emmons
But here's the point Congress doesn't do anything.
tim pool
Congress is not going to pass a law pertaining to a constitutional amendment.
So one of two things has to happen.
Clarity needs to be provided as to the interpretation of the amendment by the Supreme Court as it pertains to illegal immigration and birth or tourism, or Congress would have to repeal or replace.
The Fourth Amendment, which is functionally impossible.
So, any good steward would simply say it is the interpretation of this court that the Fourth Amendment does not protect birther tourism nor illegal immigrants having anchor babies.
phil labonte
I mean, I agree with you, but I don't think that I think that what they're the point that they're making is this is not for the Supreme Court to do.
tim pool
My point is not about their statement.
It is that if they, again, if they believe Congress needs to pass a law that clarifies birth tourism or whatever, they are still.
Standing on a question of precedent they can answer and abdicating their responsibility.
They are not being stewards.
So, the role of the court is to interpret the law, which includes the amendments.
They have a question for them pending interpretation.
If they refuse to answer that interpretation, they are derelict of their duties.
phil labonte
Well, I think the answer that they're giving again, this isn't something that I agree with, but I think the answer.
tim pool
I understand what you're going to say.
The point is, I get it.
They are cowards and they're not doing their jobs because they're cowards.
There is no legitimate argument that they are making.
The claim that Congress must repeal the 14th Amendment is psychotic.
The 14th Amendment clearly does not cover birth tourism and anchor babies.
The interpretation of the amendment is a duty of the Supreme Court, not Congress.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, the argument that they're going to make is we are taking the literal understanding of the 14th Amendment.
tim pool
I understand this point you've made three times now.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
It does not change that the question of the interpretation of codified law existing, passed by Congress.
And the Fourth Amendment is a duty of the courts and not Congress.
And again, to say that they will argue otherwise, I agree, and they are lying because they are cowards.
The reason why they didn't pick up the original jurisdiction, Texas v. Pennsylvania, is not because it wasn't in their jurisdiction.
unidentified
It was.
tim pool
It's because they're cowards.
phil labonte
Well, that I agree with.
tim pool
They are weak, pathetic people.
Save Thomas and Alito.
The Supreme Court is composed of those who seek to destroy this country and spineless loser cowards who will not do their jobs.
Thomas and Alito said, we are obligated to answer the question in Texas v. Pennsylvania as original jurisdiction only goes to the Supreme Court.
That is, state suing state is Is a task of the Supreme Court.
And five of the justices said no, for no reason.
And we know what that reason is.
We are terrified.
We don't want to die.
And we are cowards.
They will not do their jobs.
What was asked by the Solicitor General is quite simply in the 19th century, the question of birth or tourism didn't exist, to which John Roberts agreed.
And then responded, it may be a new time, but the same Constitution.
Indeed, a question is being asked as per the interpretation of the 14th Amendment.
Does this apply to To birth tourism and anchor babies.
And if they defer and say, leave it to Congress, well, no, we're asking you to interpret the intent based on the writings of the framers, what this was meant to be.
And they could overturn Wong Kim Ark.
They could apply the domicile standard, which would omit temporary visas like tourism, and it would omit illegal aliens.
And if they refuse to do that, they're abdicating their responsibilities because they're spineless cowards.
phil labonte
All right, that's fair enough.
tim pool
Which is what it seems like they're going to do.
So again, if.
Trump has tried.
Trump has tried as the executive.
I will sign an executive order that we will not, as an executive branch, grant citizenship, as is from their branch, to illegal immigrants.
And the Democrats said, we're going to stop you from doing that.
That's weird.
Why should illegal immigrants be allowed to come in and have babies here who get citizenship?
Why should the CCP be allowed to do it?
It makes literally no sense.
libby emmons
It's insane.
tim pool
It is an attack on this country, its borders, and its people.
And any sane person who cared about this country would simply say no.
libby emmons
And most of the birther tourism, it looks like, is Russia and China.
Like, these nations are supposedly our adversaries.
jayne zirkle
It's a national security threat.
It's 100% national security threat.
And the Supreme Court, most of them at least, don't care.
And it's such a slap in the face, too, because, I mean, these justices know that they have the entire MAGA base behind them on this issue.
And yet they are still cowarding on this.
tim pool
Look at the Supreme Court precedent where they overturned previous Supreme Court precedent.
And this Supreme Court is one of the most feckless and pathetic.
But I get it.
Brett Kavanaugh is terrified because someone tried to murder him and his family.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
Then you should resign right now, Kavanaugh.
Give Trump an opportunity to appoint someone else.
You are, you, I, you know, what they did to Kavanaugh for confirmation was insane.
Oh, it's insane.
And he's been, he's been okay.
So I don't want to rag on him.
But Amy Coney Baird has been bad.
libby emmons
She's been a disaster.
Yeah.
I mean, she was put there to overturn Roe.
She did that and everything else has been.
tim pool
John Roberts should, should resign.
Coney Baird should resign.
And Trump should appoint some actual constitutionalists who want to go in and say, we will answer these questions.
Threats be damned.
Like Thomas and Alito do.
libby emmons
It's not like the Congress would, um, Do their job and.
jayne zirkle
It's not like most of them would have a.
tim pool
That's true.
And then you're losing half the victories you might get, even if they are spineless.
libby emmons
Because at this point, let's say that did happen, the Senate would wait until after midterms.
unidentified
I think.
libby emmons
Because Thune won't do anything.
tim pool
This is the worst, best system.
libby emmons
He has the power, right?
Thune has the power.
Like he could overturn this filibuster thing and get so much pushed through.
He could get everything through.
But he's afraid that the Democrats are going to do exactly the thing he refuses to do and they're going to do it anyway.
tim pool
There's unfortunately no answer.
Congress is immobile.
The president is constrained by hundreds of judges.
libby emmons
Hundreds of judges.
tim pool
But let me say this.
There is some, I'll give you some hopium.
There was a very interesting article published by the New York Times where they said Trump has already won.
He will lose birthright citizenship, but he already won.
And that is the initial ruling ending universal injunctions has basically given Trump carte blanche to do anything he wants, which is very interesting.
And this seems to be a break in the system, an exploit.
Maybe exploit isn't the right word, but it works like this.
Universal injunctions should have never existed.
The idea that a lower court federal judge can issue a nationwide injunction makes no sense.
So the Supreme Court ruled you can't.
The issue was that Donald Trump, I think it was pertaining to transgender military officers or something like this.
There were two that sued, or two or three.
And then Trump said that they won.
Trump then got an appellate court to block that injunction.
But then another court in a different jurisdiction issued an identical ruling.
And they said, hold on there a minute.
How do we have two different federal judges?
Doing the same ruling and then a higher court only putting a stop on one of those injunctions while another injunction exists, this can't make sense.
Universal Injunctions Explained 00:07:26
tim pool
So the Supreme Court said, yes, a federal court can only apply relief, can grant relief to those who have standing and sued themselves.
This will require a special class for any broad categories, which means if Trump says by executive order he is barring citizenship from anybody who is here based on birth tourism, they will sue and Trump won't fight it.
And he'll say, you know what?
You win.
Those two babies can have citizenship.
unidentified
That's it.
tim pool
I'm not going to appeal it.
You know why?
Because now you've got to sue on behalf of literally every single person who comes here as an anchor baby in order to grant them relief.
libby emmons
That's what the ACLU is so mad about in terms of suing on behalf of illegal immigrants being deported.
tim pool
They are angry because if the Trump administration does not appeal, they have no opportunity to go to the Supreme Court to get a nationwide relief for all in that category.
They would have to form a class of individuals that are anchor babies or birth tourism babies.
And so if Trump decides, okay, Those two individuals won, and I won't appeal.
There will be no higher court.
There will be no precedent set by any higher court nationwide.
So basically, Trump can keep issuing executive orders every single time, tweaking them a little bit, and they will have to keep re suing.
So these two individuals who get relief as birth to us and babies, Trump can issue a new executive order that encompasses them, but it's a different order and not to sue again.
And it'll keep happening.
Like Cuomo did with free speech when he shut down churches.
So the court said you have to reopen.
He says, okay, and then issued a new executive order shutting down churches again.
You can just keep doing it.
libby emmons
Yeah, and that was a crazy case too because, what was it, like a Jewish leader and a Catholic leader brought that case to the Supreme Court and the Supreme Court said, you know, for an emergency ruling to open the churches.
And the Supreme Court was like, oh, it's moot because they're open now.
And they were like, no, no, it's still not moot.
It's still not moot.
You know, that was a crazy ruling.
That was so infuriating.
I was so angry just as a, just living in Brooklyn as a Catholic person.
I was just so mad that the Catholic Church complied.
I was like, what are you doing?
You're seriously denying the Eucharist to everybody because of Cuomo?
Like, how does the Catholic Church have no teeth?
That was infuriating, too.
tim pool
We're going to go to Rumble Rants and Super Chats.
Don't forget that uncensored portion of the show is coming up at 10 p.m. at rumble.com slash TimCastIRL.
But for now, let's grab your comments.
We got this from Dark Pines Tim uses to buy a Cantina Chicken Taco at Taco Bell, also good ridden spondy.
Indeed, yesterday we had, or was it two days ago?
We had a great deal of the Cantina Chicken Taco.
It's the best thing Taco Bell has.
It's an actual corn tortilla with it's better chicken and it's got cheese melted to it.
It is delicious.
Taco Bell's great.
I love Taco Bell's.
I don't know what the food is made of.
I'd assume some kind of cardboard.
phil labonte
It's not even food.
unidentified
It tastes great.
libby emmons
You don't have to know.
unidentified
Just enjoy.
libby emmons
We're Americans.
You just eat it.
phil labonte
Just trust them.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Blave Kaiser says, I actually think the machine state wants low voter turnout again.
No more politics as pop culture.
unidentified
I agree.
tim pool
That's another component of this.
No more politics as pop culture.
We want people watching sports again.
And you know what?
I almost don't disagree.
Like, I was saying this before when I was a kid.
I was like, I wish people cared about politics.
Then they did.
And I was like, that was a mistake.
There are way too many dumb people.
Only those who care about politics should be involved in politics.
Big Lig says, Phil is right.
The Zumerwaffen are ascendant.
No compromise, only victory.
P.S. Libby and I are from the same town.
libby emmons
Oh, my goodness.
Hanover, Massachusetts?
unidentified
Well, well, well.
How could that be?
tim pool
507 says, The only time I've ever seen our government come together and agree on anything was when AIPAC had them ban TikTok.
There's no unseeing that will affect Zoomers forever.
There is an unseeing that.
Most people don't care, and most people are driven by what makes them popular.
So if TikTok starts promoting non political content, Zoomers are going to completely forget whatever.
If TikTok went in the algorithm today and said, We're going to make it so that only videos pertaining to Casperu coffee will be seen, you'd have literally every Zoomer drinking Casperu and claiming how great it was.
There'd be some dissenters, of course, but they wouldn't matter because most of them are just going to fall in line.
phil labonte
It's incredibly well, it'd be good for Casper, but it's disheartening in general, though.
tim pool
And it's not meant to target Zoomers.
It's for any generation.
It's just that Zoomers are on TikTok.
jayne zirkle
A three second attention span.
tim pool
Rabo says Dan Bongino's podcast is kind of pro war, or at least the war in Iran.
And Crowder, I think, also supports the Iran.
Good point.
Good point.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
Is there their argument, or are they essentially just pro Trump and that's why?
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
Maybe.
tim pool
Jay Dirtbiker says Best South Park episode is Major Boobage, where they make fun of the movie Heavy Metal and Kenny gets high on cat pee.
It's called Cheezing because it's fun to do.
They had a lot of good ones.
When Cartman eats all the skin off the chicken and then goes to the bathroom and thinks he died.
unidentified
That's a good one.
jayne zirkle
I like the Dead Celebrity one in 2009 when everybody was like dying.
tim pool
Oh, right, right, right, right.
unidentified
Man.
carter banks
Who invented the toilet?
But he sat on it the wrong way, like reverse.
tim pool
All right, let's see.
Tim, you keep talking about Strauss Howe generations and then use the fake marketing markers.
A generation is 20 to 25 years, according to Strauss Howe, and post millennials, Gen Z, are 2008 to 2028 births.
Strauss Howe generational theory isn't about the accepted generations we get.
There's a bunch of different interpretations of what generations are, but they're waves because people are born all the time.
But, you know, they were calling millennials echo boomers for a while because they were the children of boomers.
But that means in between boomers and millennials, you got Gen X.
So it's waves.
It's, you know, the Strassau generational theory is not about necessarily just generations of people.
It's about how about every 80 years you have four seasons by 20 year periods.
Indeed.
But point taken.
libby emmons
The weird thing about boomers and millennials, or boomers, millennials, and Gen X is Gen X and millennials were both children of boomers.
tim pool
Gen X?
Older boomers, but again, it's a wave, meaning like half of Gen X will come from older boomers, but silent generation.
And then millennials are almost entirely from boomers and not silent generation.
libby emmons
Right.
But a ton of Gen Xers are from boomers.
tim pool
In fact, but it's because, no, no.
Maybe older boomers.
phil labonte
My parents were boomers.
unidentified
Yeah.
libby emmons
My parents were boomers too.
And my younger brothers are millennials.
And they have the same parents as me.
unidentified
It's waves.
tim pool
That's why I'm saying it's not just on and off.
libby emmons
Well, they have the same dad and/or mom.
unidentified
All right.
libby emmons
But they were also boomers.
tim pool
Seb says: Homestead property tax is not the primary revenue for most of Florida counties.
Property tax is not the same as homestead property tax.
Carve it out, and it's only about 9 to 15% of the average county budget.
Police, fire, roads, and most schools budgeted are not dependent on homestead.
What's the difference, though?
You need to clarify what the difference was.
Florida Homestead Tax Facts 00:03:22
tim pool
RE3 Tard says, was hoping you still did live shows.
Happy birthday, Ian.
It's my birthday, too.
Jesse Dalba claims to have been deplatformed and debanked like Fuentes.
He has a give, send, go.
Jesse Dalba, biker, YouTuber.
We do live shows.
We're planning some.
We're trying to figure out how we're going to do it, but there's some stuff always in the works.
Visited the Casper location in Martinsburg today, and it's nearly complete.
But these things always take a lot longer.
And I will say, surprisingly, As it took us years and we eventually gave up on trying to do it ourselves, we teamed up with Mamba Collectibles and John, shout out, who is making it all work now, has gotten it nearly to the point of opening and it's just basically about to open.
It's amazing inside.
I'm super excited.
It's going to be sandwiches.
That's right.
And ice cream.
unidentified
Ice cream.
tim pool
And there's a little play area for kids.
unidentified
Really?
libby emmons
You're going to have ice cream?
You should serve my favorite My House confection that I make.
phil labonte
What's that?
unidentified
Sure.
libby emmons
It's Whipperdoodles.
phil labonte
Whipperdoodles.
libby emmons
Whipperdoodles.
phil labonte
I don't even know what that is.
libby emmons
It's chocolate chip cookies with whipped cream in the middle, frozen.
It's better than ice cream because.
phil labonte
I don't believe you.
unidentified
Okay.
libby emmons
Ice cream is spectacular.
It's lighter than ice cream.
It's whipped cream, it's frozen whipped cream.
unidentified
Oh.
phil labonte
Okay.
tim pool
I had a really great dessert.
phil labonte
Not cool whip.
libby emmons
Not cool whip.
No, homemade whipped cream.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
It was a thing that we had at a family, I think it was Christmas, where it was basically lightly sweetened whipped cream with thin chocolate wafers, making this very light dessert that was delicious.
So, you could eat like three bowls and you're only getting like 400 calories.
libby emmons
Amazing.
tim pool
Yeah, like massive, just heapings of whipped cream.
libby emmons
Well, I make these big, giant cookies and then I put like this much whipped cream in the middle.
And then I put another cookie on the bottom and then I freeze it.
carter banks
It's like an oatmeal cream pie.
tim pool
Make some gluten free ones.
libby emmons
Make some gluten free ones.
tim pool
Yeah, otherwise I can't eat them.
libby emmons
Are you like allergic or you just don't eat it?
tim pool
I was having weakness and muscle stiffness and I did a bunch of elimination diet stuff.
And then when it was gluten that was removed, all the pain went away.
unidentified
Okay.
libby emmons
I'll make, I'll get some gluten free flour.
tim pool
And then a few months ago, I ate a Mexican pizza from Taco Bell because I thought it was a corn tortilla.
And then the next day, I was having muscle stiffness and pain again.
And I was like, man, I was like, did I eat flour or something?
I don't know.
Maybe went to Taco Bell and had another Mexican pizza.
And then the next day, it was worse.
And then I'm like, is Mexican pizza flour?
And I looked it up and it is.
And I was like, man, elimination diet.
It's true.
And then, like, my only theory is that, like, I don't know, Asians don't eat bread.
And I'm like, maybe just my genetics.
libby emmons
I like rice bread.
Taco Bell should make some.
tim pool
I love rice.
I eat rice, no problem.
But wheat bread does me no good.
And we tried, at first, my wife and I, she was like, maybe it's the American glyphosate or whatever.
So we bought heritage organic, fresh, like stone ground.
unidentified
Nope.
Same problem.
tim pool
And then bought like European bio organic, ultra rare 2000.
Didn't work.
I eat wheat.
I messed up.
In pain, foggy, no good.
No, me gusta.
Corn, no problem.
Corn's great.
All right.
What do we got here?
Latumio says, hot take.
Bezos Swimming in Cash 00:02:04
tim pool
Starlink was in the way of Artemis 2 launch.
Elon said, hit him.
Navy used weird XB mystery plane and used sets as target practice, hence the unknown explosion.
I don't know.
I think they can just move Starlink satellites.
unidentified
They can.
Yeah.
So, you know.
tim pool
Peter Gohock says, hey, Tim, geophysicist Stephen Burns said, we're going through 3Eye Atlas's debris field, and that's probably what most people are seeing.
Sounds plausible.
You mean probes from the spaceship?
Are being shot down by our Space Force.
That makes more sense.
phil labonte
Still very black pilled on space travel.
unidentified
On space travel.
phil labonte
Intergalactic space travel.
tim pool
Tumio says Asmin Gold on Tim Poole on Joe Rogan.
Asmin versus Rogan on Poole.
Sure.
I don't think Asmin Gold travels, does he?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
Yeah, because we've reached out to him.
He's great.
We could talk about Warcraft and where it all went wrong.
phil labonte
He doesn't like to travel much at all, if I understand correctly.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
That dude must be swimming in cash.
phil labonte
He's probably, yeah, he doesn't spend any money either.
He lives in the same place and his house, he barely cleaned.
tim pool
Same thing is true for, like, doesn't Bezos live in like a regular house or something?
phil labonte
I don't know.
tim pool
There was this post that I saw.
phil labonte
It was really bad.
I mean, Bezos has like a super yacht.
tim pool
Indeed.
phil labonte
Doesn't he?
tim pool
But there was a post that said, at a certain amount of money, your standard of living won't deviate from the wealthiest people on the planet.
So they were like, the thing about wealth is that Bezos wakes up and he does work, but the work has a massive impact.
You wake up and do work.
You want to find the point where you are making enough money to where you have the same standard of living as any billionaire because, again, you do at a certain amount of money.
You don't need to worry about owning one of the biggest corporations on the planet once you reach a certain level.
If you're Bezos and you keep working and you do, that's fine.
But the point of it was it is very possible to get to the point where you never have to work again.
phil labonte
And 10 mil in the bank.
tim pool
And it's just, it's in wealth management, you know?
Financial Freedom with Ten Million 00:03:44
tim pool
And then you'll be generating so much interest historically that.
What is 10 mil going to net you?
You'll probably do $300,000 a year.
phil labonte
Yep.
And you can live off that and just pay for whatever your expenses are, you know?
tim pool
Yeah, not in the bank, though, in the market.
unidentified
Sure.
tim pool
Where you will see a historic return of about 7%.
And that's why Trump's always bragging about the Dow.
But, I mean, it's exponential.
We're at what, $50,000?
phil labonte
We're on there, yeah.
tim pool
So, by next year, it's got to go up another $5,000.
Then by next year, it's got to go up another $5.7,000, then $6,000, then $7,000, then $8,000, then $10,000.
In 10 years, the Dow is going to be at 178,000.
phil labonte
I mean, there's going to be corrections.
tim pool
That system will continue.
phil labonte
There's going to be corrections, but, you know.
tim pool
Yeah, but even, it's funny, if you didn't touch your portfolio in 2008 when it crashed, you had recovered by four years.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, it's like it was going up and crashed, and then it was like, boop.
So the people who panicked, they lost everything.
People who just said, whatever.
phil labonte
Just don't sell.
libby emmons
Well, you can't panic when the stock market goes down.
You just got to hang on, otherwise, you lose everything.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Indeed.
All right, everybody, we're going to go to that uncensored portion of the show over at rumble.com slash Tim Guest IRL, where we will say naughty words and make jokes that are not so family friendly.
Smash the like button, share the show, and all that good stuff.
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Jane, do you want to shout anything out?
jayne zirkle
You can follow me at Jane Zirkel on X, Instagram, and Facebook at Jane Zirkel Official.
unidentified
There you go.
libby emmons
I'm Libby Emmons.
You can find me on Twitter at Libby Emmons.
And also, you can check out my podcast, The Pod Millennial.
You can find it all the places where you get podcasts and also at ThePodMillennial.com.
phil labonte
I am Phil that remains on Twix.
You can check out some of the things that I've been writing on Patreon.
That is Patreon.com.
dot com slash fill that remains.
The band is all that remains.
We're going on tour.
We're going to be going out with Born of Osiris and Dead Eyes.
We start April 29th in Albany.
We'll be going through the end of May.
You can check out, you get tickets for that at allthatremainsonline.com.
You can check out the band's music at Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora, YouTube, Spotify, and Deezer.
Don't forget the left lane is for crime.
unidentified
Carter.
carter banks
Carter Banks.
You can find me everywhere at Carter Banks and everywhere else at Carter Banks Official.
Follow our label at Trash House Records and also happy birthday to Ian Crossland who is Not here tonight because it's his birthday.
He'll be back tomorrow.
phil labonte
Is that really why?
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
Maybe.
We will see you all over at rumble.com slash Timcast IRL in about 30 seconds.
Thanks for hanging out.
NATO Power and Political Theater 00:12:20
tim pool
What is up?
We are uncensored.
unidentified
Fuck.
tim pool
Welcome to the show.
Man, we kind of hit every subject, even talking about aliens and South Park and all that stuff.
The other members of the show are currently dicking about.
But what do you want to talk about, Jane?
jayne zirkle
Well, going back to the Pam Bondi thing, the Daily Mail actually reported that Trump's reasoning for the sudden dismissal of Pam Bondi.
Oops, sorry.
Daily Mail reported that Trump's reasoning for the sudden dismissal of Pam Bondi.
Was in part because the president believes that she tipped off Eric Swalwell about the FBI's efforts to release investigative documents that related to his relationship with the alleged CCP spy.
And now there's not real clarity, according to them, about why she did that.
It's apparent that they have some type of friendship, but that's what they're reporting at least.
tim pool
Bro, I tried giving Pam Bondi a chance and I was very nice, but what the fuck is Trump doing?
libby emmons
What, with Bondi?
tim pool
With all of these people, man.
libby emmons
Do you think that it's better?
phil labonte
Do you think it's better the cast of characters he has in the second term or in his first term?
Because the first term was all like swamp creatures.
libby emmons
Yeah, that was terrible too.
The first term was not good.
carter banks
I tried to overcorrect.
tim pool
To be fair, I mean, like, I don't understand Christy Gnome and Pam Bondi.
Cash, I do get.
Cash and Dan.
libby emmons
Christy Gnome was confusing too.
Yeah, I didn't quite understand that either.
It was like, really?
When the Democrats started calling her Ice Barbie, I was like, yeah, it works.
phil labonte
I think they did.
I think it was just because she was loyal to Trump, is what he was.
libby emmons
I get that she was loyal, but also, I guess, her level of vanity is similar to Trump's level of vanity.
There's a lot of it with those advertisements where she's just riding off into the sunset with her hair extensions and cowboy hat.
phil labonte
The fact that she had to get dressed up and cosplay for whatever she was talking about was just embarrassing.
libby emmons
She looked like Western Barbie.
I know that you guys don't remember Western Barbie, but Western Barbie, you'd press a button on her back and she'd wink at you.
tim pool
Or Polly Pocket.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
And Mighty Max.
libby emmons
Yes.
I liked all of these things.
jayne zirkle
Well, I think we're sort of in uncharted territory here where this influencer space has now gone into a presidential administration.
Like, these are no longer just presidential appointees.
These are social media figures.
These are sometimes podcasters who are now in these, you know, very, very influential positions within our government.
And these aren't, you know, small roles either.
Like, the Attorney General of the United States, especially in this context of, you know, the level of lawfare and weaponization that she had to deal with, that's a massive undertaking.
tim pool
I just want everything to be normal again.
And I think that's how a lot of people have felt for a long time.
Like, I just go watch football, guys.
No more weird, woke, stupid, take the knee bullshit.
Regular old football.
libby emmons
Without all the trans flags and football.
tim pool
And then the rest of us will have arguments over foreign policy.
libby emmons
Yeah, I mean, we had a situation where the people who were telling us this isn't normal were also giving us stuff that was really not normal.
Like a whole bunch of trans kids, they're like, that's normal.
Transing your kids, that's normal.
Million abortions a year, that's what's normal, folks.
That's what's really normal.
Men with boobs, massive border insecurity, like, this is the normal stuff.
So we had a, like, the thing with where you had so many people despising Trump and you still do, they weren't providing anything better, they were providing everything worse.
phil labonte
You know, yeah, I do think I wonder if Trump's, you know, attempts at this during his second his second term were him trying to find people that weren't the whole, you know, deep state swamp creatures.
And just that there are very few people that are competent and will do the job and are not already deep state swamp.
unidentified
people.
phil labonte
I mean, he did, he's got you know, beset is good.
Um, Sachs seems good, David Sachs.
Um, the people that he's got to come in from industry that are generally they seem like they're better, but they don't want to be in the administration.
libby emmons
No, these people want to do what's best for their industry, and yeah, that's how they're doing it.
phil labonte
Yeah, and and and I get that, but like these people are like, like I said, he's he's very competent, he's probably the smartest guy that that Trump's got.
Um, but I just feel like I'm of the opinion that.
You know, most people that are successful, you can't just replace with someone else and they'll be successful.
So, like, getting a really, really good attorney general that can do the job is a whole lot easier said than done than trying to find an attorney general that can do the job that isn't, you know, in bed with the bureaucracy or hasn't been a major player in the bureaucracy.
That probably is exceedingly hard.
jayne zirkle
And, like, to her credit, too, there were some subpoenas, there were some investigations, but when you're talking about that versus You know, what they did to President Trump and literally got very close to putting him in prison until he died.
I mean, that just looks like political theater in comparison.
And so I think, you know, the American people who voted for President Trump, they're expecting these people behind bars.
They're expecting the Biden family behind bars, the Clinton family behind bars.
And anything less is really a disappointment to a lot of people, even if it may seem, you know, somewhat unrealistic for people who know just the level of bureaucracy that you're dealing with.
But I think, again, to that sort of like average person who just voted for Donald Trump, It is disappointing.
And I don't really know if there's a solution forward to necessarily fix that.
phil labonte
But the problem is, there wasn't a solution.
Like, Donald Trump wasn't the solution, right?
Like, what they were hoping for was never going to happen.
Like, Donald Trump wasn't going to get in and just be like, all right, you in jail, and just like start tossing people into jail.
And people, because people vote for a king, they vote for a guy that can do whatever they, whatever emotionally is satisfying to them.
And that's not how DC works.
And this is a point that I make regularly on the show.
Nobody likes how the sausage is made.
Nobody likes the fact that DC works slowly.
Nobody likes the fact that the reason there are only two terms.
For Congress people and are two years for Congress terms and six years for Senate terms is because the people that are elected to represent the people are going to do what their people want.
That's why the House is full of clowns, right?
The Senate is generally more, it works slower, it's more deliberative because they got longer and they aren't technically supposed to represent the people.
But the people expect results right away.
They want, I mean, people were calling, People were saying, oh, Trump's done six months after he got into office.
Six months after he's sworn in, they're like, oh, it's over.
It's done.
He's not going to do anything.
Nothing's going to happen at all.
And they ignore all the stuff that he actually was doing, you know?
And I don't think that Donald Trump has delivered on the things that he said he was going to, but I think that he's far and away better than the other option.
And whether people want to admit it or not, you are actually left with only two options when it comes down to voting.
jayne zirkle
Well, I do think what history has shown us is to never bet against Donald Trump.
You know, he is the comeback guy.
And I mean, they tried to kill him.
And by the grace of God, he's still alive.
And I do think there's some, you know, divine intervention there for sure.
How could there not be?
But I do trust in President Trump.
And I do think that there's a way forward through all this.
We're in a bit of a chaotic point for sure.
There's a lot going on in the world and in Washington.
But I trust in the president.
I think he will deliver.
tim pool
And I want him to win in Iran.
I. Want the United States to be dominant in the energy sector.
I don't want China to get a foothold.
I don't want the weird, creepy bullshit that they do to become dominant internationally and the Belt and Road Initiative and all of the shit they've tried doing, which is nasty and fucked up.
We are better people than they are.
The Chinese people are fantastic.
We always love the people of the country, but their government is fucking shit.
And I don't want to live in a planet where they win.
If soft power isn't getting the job done, I don't want war.
I hope this works out.
I'm going to root for my president to win.
phil labonte
Yeah, I'm 100% pro America.
And the idea that rooting against America is somehow America first is absolutely ridiculous.
It makes no sense at all to me.
The people that were like, oh, we're America first, so I wanna see Iran win.
I wanna see Iran humble the United States because we should focus only on the United States.
Like, look, man, if you're America first, you want to keep the petrodollar.
Like, if you're America first, you want to keep the United States Navy.
tim pool
Keeping the seas open for trans, for at least until we can transition from the system, if that's the case, because cutting it off right now just means we collapse.
unidentified
Yep.
Yeah.
libby emmons
No, I mean, we have to, we have to, if we're going to do this Iran thing, which we're doing, it must be one.
Otherwise, you sound like what you were just describing, Phil, the people who are like, we want to be, we want Iran to humble America.
Those are the same people that say America is at fault for 9 11.
unidentified
Yeah.
They are.
libby emmons
It makes no sense, you know?
unidentified
Yeah.
libby emmons
The people that, and, and look, I, I, and some of those people are the same people who are saying that.
unidentified
Yeah.
Actually.
phil labonte
And I like you can make the argument, hey, look, blowback is a real thing and unintended consequences are a real thing without saying the United States deserved it.
libby emmons
You can say, look, the United States never deserved anything bad to happen.
phil labonte
No, I don't think so.
You know, and I think there are too many people that get lost in that thinking that because the United States has done things in the world to try to better its position and try to fight communism and all sorts of different things that have been, you know, public policy, international policy, foreign policy.
Because they've done those things, other countries do those things too.
The United States is not unique in this, and it doesn't make the United States uniquely bad.
The United States is actually uniquely good.
We still give away more money than, like, basically all the other countries on earth combined.
libby emmons
And they still hate us for it.
phil labonte
Yeah.
So, and that's part of why we shouldn't give them money.
libby emmons
We shouldn't.
Because if you look at our allies now, like, you know, I'm not in favor of having war, but, like, what the hell, UK, France, what's your problem?
unidentified
Yeah.
jayne zirkle
I mean, the UK has a lot of internal problems as well.
libby emmons
They have a lot of internal problems.
unidentified
Last hour, but.
Yes.
libby emmons
But, like, at the same time, what kind of allies are you with friends like these?
You know what I'm saying?
jayne zirkle
Well, it's very clear that, you know, our values are starting to stray apart between places like the UK and France.
unidentified
Yeah.
jayne zirkle
I mean, I think we're, you know, we're obviously being invaded slowly but surely, but they're already fully conquered at this point.
It's like, how can you say that's really like a country that you could then trust fully when they've allowed this disaster to happen?
A disaster that you're, you know, facing, which is an existential crisis to the very fabric of your nation.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
I mean, look, the, the, the, Way that NATO is organized now, the fact that it took Donald Trump doing all the things that he's done to get NATO countries to spend even 2% of their GDP on their own defense.
If you look at, like, I was watching a, it was some streamer or whatever, just a little clip, and the totality of NATO, like all of the countries, when it comes to their military strength, is basically half of what the United States has.
Like, the US has double everything that NATO has.
NATO combined, not just one country, but like all of NATO.
The United States is the power of NATO.
And the fact that the United States says, look, we could use some help here, we want some help here.
And they're like, no, no, no.
But the United States has been the biggest proper up of the Ukraine war.
And that's on behalf of Europe.
tim pool
The theory is that we're going to leave NATO to go to war with Turkey.
libby emmons
To go to war with Turkey.
unidentified
Yeah.
one sky nets in unknown
Well, we'll see.
US Safety Regulations vs NATO 00:02:58
tim pool
Let's bring in some callers.
Let's start with Maximus Retardius.
We know.
carter banks
What's up, Maximus?
unidentified
Hey, Tim.
maximus retardius in unknown
How's it going, guys?
phil labonte
What's going on, bud?
unidentified
How's it going?
maximus retardius in unknown
Well, my question is relatively open.
But imagine a bill where agencies can suggest best practices, but they must measure outcomes.
If someone can achieve a better measurable result, whether with a creative solution or an alternative method, that should also count as complying to the regulation.
If the regulation doesn't improve the actual outcome, the why they're doing it, it expires or it needs to be re justified and re voted on.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
Yeah, that went over my head.
maximus retardius in unknown
So essentially, right now, with the way regulations are set up, you have to have a three point safety harness.
You could drive into California with a five point safety harness, which is objectively safer, and they can still give you a seatbelt ticket.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
That's stupid.
maximus retardius in unknown
Yeah, no, so regulation should have to have a measurable standard and result in which they are supposed to get better at, or they fail and are no longer a regulation.
phil labonte
I mean, I like the idea.
Go on, whether it be what?
maximus retardius in unknown
Well, whether it be safety things or just regular, like environmental protection things.
I mean, there's a lot of things that have to do with eagles that measurably have saved eagles' lives.
I mean, single states have gone from four nesting pairs to 1,000.
There's things with septic that just don't exist.
There's multiple different agencies.
tim pool
Regulation should be goal oriented, not specific, right?
maximus retardius in unknown
Right.
tim pool
Like the regulation should be.
maximus retardius in unknown
Because three companies push them to actually have this as the regulated thing that you have to install.
tim pool
Right.
I understand.
So you say you must have a safety equipment to prevent falls.
You know, that way you could have this or better.
Instead, like the way you're describing it, is they mandate a lesser secure thing just because that's what they codified.
unidentified
Right.
maximus retardius in unknown
And the seatbelt just happened to be the first safety thing for a car that came.
And there's some cars nowadays that are probably safer without a seatbelt because of the airbag technology.
tim pool
Five point harnesses.
libby emmons
That would be another one.
tim pool
What do you do?
Like you pull it over your head?
Yeah.
unidentified
Like a roller coaster.
libby emmons
Like NASCAR or something?
tim pool
Yeah, roller coaster bars.
You sit down and.
libby emmons
That would be so uncomfy.
carter banks
If you rolled over, you'd be screwed.
unidentified
Yeah.
jayne zirkle
But honestly, I parallel parked with Libby today.
So that five point harness might have been it.
libby emmons
I apologize.
phil labonte
You should.
Get a Tesla, they do that for you.
libby emmons
The Tesla does it for me, it does it, it does it quite well.
phil labonte
Yeah, oh, we were part we were parallel parked at uh, I was just trying to get way too close to the curb.
Gender Focus in Advertising 00:07:49
libby emmons
That's all.
She was good, I'm trying to get way too.
jayne zirkle
I'm giving her a harder.
unidentified
She was good.
phil labonte
Did you hit the the wheel?
What did you hit the wheel on the curb?
libby emmons
Not, not like, not like I didn't slam into it, I knew it was there.
Did you and I stopped?
She topped it, I tapped it.
phil labonte
Scraped the wheels, then nah, there bumpers are for bumping.
libby emmons
Yeah, there we go.
unidentified
That's why they're called bumpers.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
I hear your point, man.
Did you want to add anything to that or shout anything out?
maximus retardius in unknown
Just check me out at Winchworm Inc.
And Phil, you got to check out 21 Pilots, but the story lore.
phil labonte
21 Pilots?
The band?
maximus retardius in unknown
Yeah, they have an actual story that has been playing out for the last 12 years of their music.
It's all one cohesive universe.
phil labonte
That sounds terrible.
I don't even like.
tim pool
What Angels and Airwaves wanted to do?
phil labonte
I don't even like.
What was it called?
Like concept albums?
The last concept album that I liked was like Operation Mindcrime.
By Queensrank from like 1998.
libby emmons
I'm not a big concept album person.
phil labonte
It's tough.
It's a big story.
tim pool
Well, thanks for calling in, brother.
phil labonte
Sorry, man.
unidentified
Thank you.
carter banks
Thank you, sir.
phil labonte
How are you doing, bud?
libby emmons
12 years is a long time.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Next up, we've got Jafar Al Khafar.
Is that how you say it?
phil labonte
Jafar Al Khafar.
unidentified
Oh.
phil labonte
What's up, man?
Assalamu alaikum.
jafar al khafar in unknown
Sorry about that.
unidentified
Whatever.
jafar al khafar in unknown
It's been a long time since I've done Arabic.
tim pool
However, you say it.
jafar al khafar in unknown
I was an Arabic linguist for the Air Force.
So, my question is for mainly Tim because you talk about this a lot, but everybody else, I want to hear your ideas on it.
You mentioned the RPM CPM on Erica Kurt content.
Could it be a high return because it is mostly female audience and they are highly susceptible to marketing so the companies know they will reach very gullible people who are sad, lonely women with this very disposable income?
tim pool
RPM.
RPM is by subject, not by gender.
You can check RPMs by gender, and they're fairly flat.
Subject, like, yeah, it's just that's not really advertising works.
The insinuation, if that was true, it's that marketing companies would be specifically going on Google and typing in women, which is not the case for most advertising.
Maybe to a certain factor, but I wouldn't say to a factor of 4X.
That makes no sense.
Like, typically, if you put it this way, I'll put it like this advertisers don't care as much about gender.
That's why they started marketing makeup to guys.
They want to sell.
So they're going to go on and say, find me whoever will buy this, and it will lean male as well.
jafar al khafar in unknown
So, it's mainly just because it's Erica Kirk content?
tim pool
It seems so.
It seems strange.
unidentified
All right.
jafar al khafar in unknown
That's really, that's odd.
But yeah, that's about it.
Sorry.
This is a boring question.
tim pool
Yeah.
You have to get into the intricacies of how Google ads work.
And there's no reason to go in and limit your market to women, you just want to sell maximally.
So, yeah, I don't know.
Maybe, but that would imply that guys aren't buying things, which I don't think is the case.
libby emmons
I guess it depends on what you're selling.
unidentified
Yeah.
libby emmons
Guys don't tend to buy tampacks, for example.
tim pool
Yeah.
But a jump from like news commentary, which is five to eight, to $20 is nuts.
carter banks
Anything you want to shout out?
jafar al khafar in unknown
I mean, I stream on Rumble every day under the same name, Jafar Uncle Fire, and just talk about whatever.
unidentified
Cool, cool man.
Right on.
tim pool
Well, thanks for calling in, brother.
jafar al khafar in unknown
Yeah, wonderful evening.
carter banks
You as well.
tim pool
So, like for Google Ads, we've been advertising for a long time.
You can choose by gender, but then the question is with an algorithm that will choose the best customer for your product, I've never, in all of the marketing we've done on media related stuff, even media that we thought was favorable to women, the argument is actually the inverse.
If you have a product that women want, you actually want to sell it to men, women will already buy it.
So, you do want to inform women that the product exists.
But thinking about it this way, like at Fusion, for instance, if we have a video and we're like, women love this kind of content, well, then we need to put more money into men.
If women are more likely to get it, that means our ad spend on women is going to be lower.
So, we have to put more money focused on men.
So, you really just wouldn't do it.
We'd go in and say, doesn't matter what the gender is, sell the product maximally.
And certainly, there are companies that are selling tampons and like literally things only women will buy.
But we saw this with makeup.
They don't need to advertise.
Makeup to women in the same way as they were trying to advertise it to men because men don't wear makeup and they want to increase their market share.
But let's get the next caller.
unidentified
We got Raph.
What's up, Raph?
Hello, hello.
How are you doing?
Doing good.
rath in unknown
So, my question is for the panel.
By the looks of it, it looks like the birthright citizenship hearing is not going the way that Trump expected and in turn, like against the Constitution.
Does the panel think that this will be the Straw that breaks the camel's back in terms of the perceived authority of the Supreme Court?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
Texas v. Pennsylvania is way worse.
rath in unknown
That's why I say it's the straw.
This is a big issue for a lot of people, especially on the right.
And seeing as how many of the Supreme Court justices at the right thought they were relying on are just.
Up and turning, or just making stuff up out of their butt, pass.
tim pool
Well, I think the bigger issue that you bring up is that many people will perceive this as the Supreme Court refusing to do their job once again and such an egregious hole that clearly no framework or founding father thought would be possible or should be allowed.
And the excuse is, well, because they didn't think of it, we'll let the country burn.
Yeah, people are going to be pissed.
rath in unknown
Gotcha, yeah.
That's primarily the main point of my question.
In terms of shout outs, just shouting out the Discord.
The creators' workshop is up and going again.
So if you're doing anything fun, creative, painting models, grinding axes, digital drawings, come by Sunday at 3 p.m. Eastern Standard Time.
And jump into the stage.
Well, we have people that paint.
We have people that draw.
We have a guy that does cosplay and is currently working on a Star Wars cosplay.
unidentified
So, yep.
Cool.
Cool.
All right.
tim pool
Well, thanks for calling in.
phil labonte
How are we going, bud?
rath in unknown
Pleasure.
Have a nice night, everyone.
unidentified
You take care.
You too.
tim pool
This has been a fairly quick one.
Let's see.
One Sky Nets.
What is up, brother?
unidentified
I'm much.
one sky nets in unknown
How are you doing, Tim and crew?
unidentified
I've been doing great.
Great.
one sky nets in unknown
Well, I'm glad to talk to you.
I called him once before, but it was when Seamus was on, and I was like, I didn't get to talk to Tim Poole yet.
In any case, I'm glad to finally get to you.
I have a question for you.
unidentified
Kind of a fun one.
Traversing Space and Time 00:05:30
one sky nets in unknown
It really got my brain kind of turning with one of your morning segments when it came to talking about the aliens with Matt Gaetz and his claim that they're abducting humans and impregnating them.
unidentified
Yeah.
one sky nets in unknown
And I was like, that is the most wild shit I've ever heard.
So I got my brain thinking, well.
What if this is the reason they can't talk about the Epstein trap?
Because Epstein was funneling children or people to these aliens and actually causing this whole, you know, they were facilitating the whole process and helping it.
And that's why they can't let this information out.
They can't tie anything back to anyone because the aliens are involved.
And if it gets out, it's going to cause everything to collapse.
And, like, really, it's going to cause everyone to freak out.
tim pool
Yeah, there's.
Some of the posts, people are saying Epstein was trafficking children to the aliens for the hybrid programs and they can't release any of the files.
I don't think that's the case, but it's a fun thought, right?
one sky nets in unknown
Right, exactly.
It's a fun thought because, well, here's my thing with the aliens.
I don't really.
I guess I'm not sold.
I'm in Phil's camp.
I think that the universe is far too large and people traversing it, it's just not possible.
Maybe some extra dimensional beings.
I think that's certainly a possibility.
tim pool
I'd way disagree with that.
one sky nets in unknown
I just don't personally.
unidentified
Was it?
tim pool
I way disagree with the idea that we can't traverse space.
Warp was hypothesized.
one sky nets in unknown
We can't traverse it just fast enough to get to the ground.
Yeah, that's what I just don't see the answer.
That's what I'm saying.
I'm more of a fan.
tim pool
That's the warp hypothesis, which is 80 to 100 years old, which is an explanation for FTL travel.
The issue is like the technology of Star Trek is based on actual scientific hypotheses using antimatter compressors to warp space time, which moves you between space, not through space.
Those are hypothesized forms of truth.
one sky nets in unknown
Certainly a possibility that aliens are here already.
carter banks
I think they visited in the past.
They left us alone.
one sky nets in unknown
And that they've come back.
libby emmons
Do you think they're back?
carter banks
Ancient aliens.
libby emmons
Ancient alien theorists.
unidentified
That was an episode of South Park.
Yes.
one sky nets in unknown
Well, I mean, you say that there's like, so these theories have existed for, what, 180 to 100 years now.
And now, because that's kind of been my whole thing is that I. When it comes to the vastness of space, I just don't see a way we can traverse it.
I'm not a physicist by any means.
tim pool
Yeah, the idea is that using matter-antimatter compression, you would create a warp, an expansion of the forward space.
I'm sorry, a compression and an expansion in the back, which moves space, not you.
That's the theory behind how Star Trek operates, and they move faster than light.
They're not actually moving at all, they're between space by warping it.
The issue would be how do you contain?
I mean, this is Star Trek built off of these hypotheses and made a show about them.
How do you contain antimatter, antimatter, matter explosions, and how do you produce enough antimatter to do it?
I think we have one trillionth of a gram in U.S. stockpiles for antimatter.
So if we got to the point where we could produce it at scale, then, and you could contain, you could create a warp engine that warps space and you would travel faster than light.
one sky nets in unknown
Other than that, I think that's where I have the contention is like, we're.
I don't think we'll ever have the capacity to harness that much energy.
tim pool
But you don't need to either because using standard forms of propulsion, all we need to do is build a moon base where we can shuttle resources much more easily.
And then you launch for deep space missions from the moon.
It just takes a very long time.
So human colonists could functionally travel to Alpha Centauri, I think over 100 years, because you maximally just increase speed.
Then halfway there, you decrease speed.
But time dilation will be a factor.
We'd never see those people again.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
But it's fine.
unidentified
Like humans could do it.
one sky nets in unknown
I mean, effectively, we will never participate.
tim pool
What if the aliens that we're encountering came to Earth in a similar fashion, have no means of return, and came here because they saw a planet that had no life on it, we're going to colonize.
And by the time they got here, due to time dilation, human civilization now exists.
one sky nets in unknown
What is that, a three body problem that showed that they're going to do?
tim pool
No, a three body problem is that they have devices that can travel faster than light using entanglement.
They detected that we were here because we responded, and now they're coming to conquer us.
one sky nets in unknown
Right, but it takes them like 400 years to get here or something.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
That was the premise.
And in the meantime, they're using what?
SOFONs to control all of human existence to stop us from being able to advance technologically?
one sky nets in unknown
That's crazy.
tim pool
Indeed.
one sky nets in unknown
Just listening to all these segments that you've been putting out about the aliens and all this stuff.
Listen, I've never been one that's sold on it.
I mean, I'm open to the idea.
I'm just like, I just don't think it's there.
But I'm just, I don't know.
Freaking, we're invading Iran and things are going crazy in the world and it just feels like everything's upside down.
Why can't aliens be real, I guess, at this point?
tim pool
Well, the writers of Earth season 26 are bored.
They're like, we're going to jump the shark, I guess.
Aliens?
Closing Thoughts on Aliens 00:01:14
unidentified
Fair enough.
one sky nets in unknown
Well, I don't want to take up too much of the time.
I know this is pretty much the end of the show here, but it's been great talking to you guys.
Tim, you're a big hero of mine.
tim pool
Appreciate it.
one sky nets in unknown
You've been just monumental in the culture war and what you put out there.
I watch all your content.
I think you're incredible.
Libby, I love you.
I think you're awesome.
Phil, you're fantastic.
phil labonte
Cheers, man.
one sky nets in unknown
I didn't get to say this last time because I was so caught up in what we were talking about, but congratulations on your kid.
unidentified
And Tim, you as well.
Thank you.
one sky nets in unknown
For your kids and your lives.
You're big heroes of mine.
And to see you guys just moving forward and just bringing life into the world and encouraging people to do the same is just.
phil labonte
Cheers, man.
one sky nets in unknown
It warms my heart.
phil labonte
Thank you.
Right on.
tim pool
Well, thanks for calling in, brother.
unidentified
Thanks, man.
one sky nets in unknown
All right, you guys.
Have a good one.
And let's wish our troops good luck with the war.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Thanks for calling in, brother.
unidentified
Bye-bye.
tim pool
Well, it was a little bit shorter by about 10 minutes, but it's okay.
Jay, it's been fun having you.
Thanks for coming.
unidentified
Thank you for having me.
tim pool
Absolutely.
We are back, of course, tomorrow.
It's going to be fun.
We have Scott Pressler on tomorrow?
unidentified
Yeah.
We do.
Cool.
tim pool
Yeah, we got to talk about this mission in the midterm.
So thanks for hanging out, guys.
We're going to have big, big subjects tomorrow, and we'll see y'all then.
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