THE MADMAN HAS DONE IT, Trump Moves To Checkmate Democrats | Timcast IRL
Tim Pool and guests dissect Trump's executive order limiting mail-in voting to checkmate Democrats before 2026, alongside Supreme Court battles over birthright citizenship and conversion therapy rights. The episode critiques modern depression linked to social media, attacks California as culturally occupied territory, and debates whether the U.S. was founded as a Christian nation. Ultimately, the discussion frames current cultural stagnation and political shifts as symptoms of a society requiring radical reset or aggressive assimilation policies. [Automatically generated summary]
Donald Trump signed an executive order limiting mail-in voting, requiring DHS to round up documents on who is a U.S. citizen eligible to vote.
It's kind of a workaround to the SAVE Act.
You can see that he's targeting this system because they're not passing the SAVE Act.
And without it, Republicans are cooked.
They really do need this.
I think a lot of Americans really do want it.
And the strangest thing is, despite it being one of the most popular bills, like literally of all time, Democrats and Republicans will not pass this thing.
Now, Donald Trump, I'm just going to say he does not have the authority as president to just decree you can't have this mail-in voting and that only citizens can vote, despite it being common sense, I guess.
So it's likely going to be challenged, but this is the first move Trump is making to checkmate.
Well, not the first move, but right now, it is a major move he is making in this Save Act play to checkmate the Democrats.
We can look at all the prediction data, all the polling.
Sure, it looks like people are not happy with the war, but if Trump wins this fight, oh, it's over.
Because as we all know, when it comes to elections, procedure is more important than popularity.
And then, of course, my friends, Donald Trump will be attending the Supreme Court hearings on birthright citizenship tomorrow.
That's big news.
The Supreme Court may once and for all end the insane practice of people coming here on vacation, having a kid, and then leaving, and that kid can be president.
They can run for president.
That doesn't make sense.
They just come and then they're citizens and they leave.
From CNBC, Trump signs executive order limiting mail-in voting ahead of 2026 U.S. elections.
They say President Donald Trump on Tuesday signed the executive order cracking down on mail-in voting.
The order will require DHS to compile a list of verified U.S. citizens in each state who are eligible to vote.
It's almost certain to be challenged in court, which could block it from being enforced in time for the midterms.
Quote, we want to have honest voting in our country because if you don't have honest voting, you can't have really a nation, if you want to know the truth.
I love how he just adds that we call those wasted words.
I'm not trying to be a dick, but we call those waiting.
You don't need to say that.
The list would be sent to each state, and the order directs the attorney general to prioritize the investigation and prosecution of election officials, individuals, and other entities that violate the law by issuing or distributing federal ballots to ineligible voters.
The fact sheet says the Postal Service would be required to transmit ballots only to individuals enrolled on a state-specific mail-in absentee participation list.
This is where it gets interesting.
He does have that authority.
He can tell the post office: if you send mail-in votes to people who are not eligible to vote, you will be held to account for this.
This is the workaround to the SAVE Act.
If they're not going to pass the SAVE Act, this is the Trump gambit for now.
Certainly, they will challenge him in court, but I actually think he might win enough to where they can't stop him in time for November.
It's tough because, I mean, it's one of those things where with all these, you know, with all these orders, I mean, it's Stephen Miller's cooking these up somewhere in a dark room.
So he's probably gamed this out, gamed out the strategy that now is the time to sign this because this could buy us enough time for November to actually deploy it.
And because the SAVE Act's not going to pass something to get us across the finish line.
Well, I also think this is a massive win in terms of the court of public opinion because, like we pointed out before, this is a massively popular position among both Republicans, Democrats, and independents across the country.
I think that the administration kind of needs a win at this point.
There's a lot of people that are pretty negative going into the, you know, into the midterm season.
And I think that the more that the administration can do to limit any kind of fraudulent votes or anything, I think that is something that will, it's not going to make the Black Pillars happy, but it will help placate them.
Look, if you can get people that are low-propensity voters to actually turn out, you know, then you might, the Republicans might have a chance of keeping the Senate.
I don't think the Republicans are going to keep the Senate right now.
I know that they still kind of, I think they have the edge in the betting markets or the prediction markets or what have you, but I don't think that they will.
I think that the only way, and I've said this a bunch of times, the only way that the Republicans will keep the Senate and have a chance of keeping the House.
This isn't to say they will, but have a chance of keeping the House, is if the economy is doing well.
And I think that if the things that are going on in the Middle East pan out properly the way that the administration wants them to, you could see a boost in the economic activity in the U.S. You could see a situation where people are actually feeling better about their own personal situations, which would make them more inclined to go out and vote for the current administration for the Republicans.
I don't think that's going to happen.
I'm not making a prediction here.
I'm just saying the conditions that are necessary for that to happen.
I wouldn't be surprised if as we get closer to the midterms, Trump fires off several executive orders, which are increasingly, increasingly, what's the right word?
I don't know what the right word is for it, but powerful, perhaps, meaning more impactful.
Like right now, this is a big deal.
He's telling the post office, you can't transmit these ballots.
He's saying you got to collect information on who's eligible.
I wouldn't be surprised if as we get closer to the election, he says outright, like, okay, no mail-in voting, no mail-in voting at all.
And he sends in feds to certain areas.
If the Democrats win and all prediction markets, everything is tracking for Trump to lose this, for the Republicans to lose this, Trump's cooked.
Well, I think it's one of those, I think there's two things here.
I think one, Stephen Edgingen made this point on Twitter today where he said it's kind of the Robert Moses strategy in a city planner in New York City, where no matter what any local opposition was, what any court said, he would just plow through different blocks in the city because it's like now when the courts have finally weighed in, it doesn't matter.
I've already torn down the block.
I've already built what I wanted to build.
It's kind of the same idea with what Trump's doing.
It's like, if I can just plow this through, plow my policy through before the courts can even react.
I really think that the people that are like, yo, we expected more out of Donald Trump.
They want to see him pushing things through.
He had a mandate for his agenda.
He won the popular vote.
He won all the swing states.
The American people liked what he campaigned on.
And he should be doing as much as he can to push through his agenda.
Obviously, Congress, the Republicans in Congress should be doing whatever they can to support that because of the fact that he did win the popular vote and he won the swing states.
And it was such a landmark kind of election.
But still, he should be doing everything he can, exercising as much power as he can and let the courts throw injunctions at him.
Let them do whatever they can.
But he should still be moving forward at the maximum pace that he possibly can because that's the only thing that's going to make the people that are his base happy.
Yeah, well, that's exactly what he was elected to do.
He was elected to be an outsider to essentially be a bulldozer to the system to clean out the swamp and get the agendas actually pushed forward that the American people want, but Congress is too.
I mean, we've been, I remember every single night in 2024, we were looking, I would look into the camera, I'd say, Trump, please bomb Iran.
It's the only thing I ever wanted.
No, there's like, there are these funny posts.
There's like the fifth, something weird is going on.
Let me put it like this.
Something weird is going on.
Because there have been these incessant AI slot posts that say the exact same things.
They go, I've had it with Tucker Carlson.
I've had it with Candace Owens.
I've had it with the Hodge Twins.
I've had it with Tim Cast.
I've had it.
And I'm like, well, me.
But no, but seriously, I think these are AI slot posts from generic accounts or it's coordinated.
And I think the general idea is like a lot of the replies are, why is Timcast being lumped up in with these people?
Because the idea is just to disenfranchise the Trump base.
So naturally, you already have Tucker, Candace, and a handful of people that are critical of Trump, particularly over the Iran war.
Dave Smith's out the door, right?
But we're, you know, fairly middle of the road here at Timcast because we're moderate individuals, right?
Didn't vote for the war, don't want it, but certainly don't want America to lose, want to make sure that Trump finds a proper path out of this one.
And I know that there will be great benefits if he succeeds.
But it seems like it's obvious the midterms are coming and every dirty play is going to be played.
So what is accomplished by creating these divisive MAGA posts?
Well, there's prominent Trump supporters who are responding being like, here, here, yeah, screw those people.
You throw in me and Jack Pesobic on that list in an effort to get us inundated with tweets being like, screw you're not MAGA.
The idea I often bring up is if you don't offer someone a path forward, they'll take the other direction.
So if someone does something wrong and your immediate reaction is, F you, burn, they'll immediately go to the other side because they have nowhere else to go.
Me, I have a bit more mental fortitude than that.
But this is what the operation seems to be, the coordination seems to be, attack as many people as possible that do support Trump.
So it appears as though the Trump base is attacking you.
And then you start pushing back.
It's a Chinese finger trap problem.
You react negatively.
Then these people will start attacking Trump supporters and you fracture the Trump base.
I think it's also to essentially erode the opinions of the people that actually listen to you too.
I mean, if they think that you're lumped in with these group of people, they're just going to start eventually assuming that you also hold the same opinions that they do.
Or to basically generate algorithmic feeds where people who might follow this account are now going to have my name and Jack Pesobic as well, who's very pro-Trump, being lumped in with Candace Owens as if we hold similar opinions at all, which we don't.
And then their algorithms will be built upon, they'll start seeing more and more of this AI slop that just, what are they going to do?
They're going to see the 18th post where it's like, can you believe what Tim Poole is doing, what Jack Pesobic is doing?
And then they're going to be like, wow.
And then they're going to, I don't know where they're going to go, but it's fracturing MAGA intentionally, it would seem.
Yeah, I think there's a contingent of the political, broadly right-wing sphere that wants to see you and wants to see Jack Pesobic lumped in with the Panikin class, for lack of a better word.
mannequins well because because i'm the retard right The retard, right?
Yeah, I mean, just like whatever you want to call them, because I think you and Jack specifically diverge on a few political points from kind of the rest of the right-wing commentariat.
That's really inconvenient for a chunk of, again, the right-wing broadly, and they want to see you guys ejected and viewed in the same way as Candace or as, you know, here's what I think.
As I've long stated, my friends, the play is to eliminate independent media.
Take a look at the money being dumped into these moderate Democrat candidates trying to kick out the progressives.
Take a look at the move they, I'll tell you why my name appears on this list, because I correctly called out the Stephen Colbert hoax with James Tallarico attacking Jasmine Crockett.
Despite not liking Jasmine Crockett, the machine state is saying we want to eliminate these independent voices.
So I've long argued that, you know, like Candace and Tucker, less so Tucker, but still to a certain degree, he's in a similar political space.
They're Pied Pipers.
You start generating a bunch of content that will keep you more on the fringes.
And then after, you know, the way we described it, we were in Austin is that they open, you know, the way Luke described it, Lukakowski.
They opened a door and said, everybody come into this room of great free speech.
Inside the room, everyone's screaming Israel.
And then after the midterms, they slam the door shut and you guys are locked out of the main ballroom.
That's the idea.
I think the play is they're going to target any voice that is independent or outside their control.
And of course, that includes people like Tucker, but it also includes people like Jack Pesobic or me.
And then the play is going to be, you turn on Netflix, you turn on CBS, you turn on, you know, or Paramount or whatever, and there are the approved podcasts.
Well, I think it's also too is like broadly independent media on the right is trained to be intentionally contrarian because like independent media really got its teeth during the Biden years during like the Biden winter.
And so they basically trained the audience to say those four years were called the Biden winter.
I think it's also really difficult because for the common viewer, the news cycle now moves faster than it ever has before.
So it's really easy for people to forget the actual wins that we have had under the Trump administration.
Like it's very easy to get focused on Iran when it's happening in the moment, but it's really easy to forget all of the, you know, all the deportations and all of the other wins that we've had under the administration so far.
Well, I think there's only one explanation, and it's that the people who are in control, the powerful people, the Apstein Island people, they're lizards.
They're all actually lizards and they're in on it.
And they're just like, you know, if you're not one of us, a lizard person, then you can't hang out.
All California communist, you know repetition, put all the Californians in Indiana.
Yeah yeah, but like you ever see, you ever hear the thing that if you see a roach, you're not supposed to smash it because it splatters the eggs everywhere.
Yeah yeah, if you put all the Californians in Indiana, it'd be like that.
Maybe probably yeah, I think this actually has more to do with the UH, building the moon base.
So the idea is they want to do a, they want to do a once over with new.
So actually, this is the truth.
They've got new instruments and new technology to scan the surface understand, you know the appropriate places for a potential moon base and they're going to loop around and scan basically everything so that they can make terminations on a moon base.
And they said they're going to see parts of the moon that have never been seen before.
I mean, the only actual comfort these guys have is that, you know, if there is some kind of failure, then the sound stage will just open up the door and let them out and they can use the bathroom to get back in and start filming again.
5:30, July 16th, 1945, 13-year-old Barba Kent was on a camping trip with her dance teacher and 11 students when a forceful blast threw her out of her bunk bed onto the floor.
Later that day, the girls noticed what they believed was snow falling outside.
Surprised and excited.
They started running out, dancing outside to play.
We all thought, oh my gosh, it's snowing.
Yet it was warm.
We put out our hands and we're rubbing it on our faces and having a good time trying to catch what we thought was snow.
Years later, they learned it was actually radioactive fallout from the first nuclear test explosion.
Yeah, that's true, but like Buzz Aldrin lived to be a very old man before he passed away.
He was like in his 90s, I think, when he passed away.
So, I mean, it's not, it's probably not great, but at the same time, I don't think that radiation exposure is actually so bad that you're gonna get cancer when you come back, you know, 10 years later.
And there's like whether you're going to tell Neil Armstrong, like, hey, you'll be cemented in history forever, the first man to walk on the moon, but you might get cancer at some point in the next 50 years.
Oh, and so you go and you order coffee or a drink and you sit down and then the dogs just go crazy.
Now, in the mind of the average person, you're imagining like a golden retriever comes up to you all happy and you pet him and he's like, and then you're like, oh, this is great.
That's not at all what it's like.
They run in and start running around full speed and they jump up on the table and try biting yourself and you're pushing them away and then they take a dump right there on the floor.
If this dude wants to, you know, put balloons in his shirt and pout in the camera or whatever, just don't do it in public and don't call hookers and film yourself doing it, especially when your wife is a Trump admin official.
I have no problem saying ew.
You know what I mean?
Remember that guy who had the, I was talking about this earlier.
But my point is largely just like, of all of the things that people do do, like, there are guys who are married to other guys.
And so, outside of even knowing what they're doing behind the scenes, or assuming in public, they're outright telling you when they like put their arms around each other and show off their rings.
You already, at the bare minimum, this is not the worst degeneracy that exists in society.
And so that's why my point is: do you want to be freaky in the sheets or whatever, whatever, just not in public?
Like, the fact that he's filming himself and he was sending these photos off, apparently, this is what happens to you.
This is what happens, okay?
Don't keep your private life to your private self, and then we'll all just pretend you're normal.
I mean, especially with the advent of the cell phone, the cameras and cell phones and stuff like that, people just love that you not have the ability to be like, no.
But again, like, hold on, like, when I was first reading this and I was reading Bimbo Facation, like, I can understand the grammatic, like, breakdown of what that means.
I'm imagining they're saying that here, like, her husband is into the idea that women are turned into overly sexualized big team women.
And I was like, oh, okay.
And then it was like, and then he put big fake.
But then he put big fake boobs in his shirt and said, tell me I'm a girl.
I beg for that kind of testosterone in the Republican Party.
The willingness to steal exclusive designer clothing from women and then wear it in the White House on camera.
I got to be honest.
You can make fun of that guy because he's weird and all that, but he's probably got testosterone through his hair's all gone.
And he's like, I'm going to outright steal a woman's clothing that she had specifically tailored for her, and I'm going to wear it on camera at the White House.
You'd think he'd like get better at it, you know, stealing suitcases.
Because every time you go to the airport, you're like, the last bastion of our high trust society really is the luggage carousel because there's nothing stopping you from just taking random suitcases.
Well, you know what I love too is when like you'll check a bag and then when you'll get to your place of destination open it up there's a card in there and it's a DHS card that says we opened your bag and went through it.
If there is one thing that has me begging, begging for the meteor of death, it's when you'll see an ad and it'll be like, you know, there's a bunch of commercials where you'll seek a little guy on a bridge and he'll be shooting his gun and then like zombies will be coming, but then he'll move over to the right and he'll shoot like a gun with a five on it.
And when he shoots it, he gets the gun and it's and I'm like, oh, that looks pretty fun.
And then there's like a gate coming at you.
It says minus 10, but then he's shooting it and then it goes down from negative 10.
It goes up to zero and then it goes up to plus 10.
And then he goes through it.
And now there's 10 soldiers and now they're all shooting the zombies.
There's also, no, there's another game where there's a king and he's, he's in, he's in like a tunnel that goes like this and then goes up and then falls into lava.
And there's a bunch of blocks moving forward pushing him.
And he's like, and he's looking all scared.
And then you got to match the blocks.
And when you do, he pushes forward.
So by, you know, it's like Candy Crush almost where you rearrange the blocks and get three in a row.
And if you get him enough, he won't fall in the lava.
And I'm like, oh, a time-based candy crush.
That sounds fun.
So I download it.
And what is it?
Literally just Candy Crush.
There's no king, no lava.
They lied to me.
I am going to find the studios that make that game and I'm going to knock on their door and I'm going to shake my fist in their general direction.
And I think it's because there's that story where the dad gets the advertisement sent to his daughter for pregnancy for maternity stuff.
And he's like, my daughter is 16.
So he calls all angry, stop sending this.
And they're like, it's algorithmically generated.
So the AI systems figured out that his daughter was pregnant because of the Google search history she was doing.
And so I think when you start posting, like, oh, hey, kid, when we start shopping for baby stuff, Instagram automatically will start recommending things that it thinks it wants you to see.
And so it must be that new parents get glued to these stories about their kids dying because they're scared.
And it's, so what happens is unintentionally, a news story will be like a seven-year-old kid fell into the ice and died, or like a three-year-old was hit by a car.
And new parents stop and stare at that news story and watch the whole thing.
So the algorithm doesn't know what it's showing you.
It's just saying this video is loved by new parents.
And it starts spam blasting these stories.
The other thing it keeps doing is ping pong.
Bro, I'm not kidding.
Instagram, I think, probably was paid off by Big Ping Pong.
And they were like, spam Tim Pool with ping pong videos.
That way he'll start playing and promoting it.
And then I was getting, I was like, I'm scrolling.
So I'm like, I bet someone at Facebook was like, we're going to see if we can get Tim Pool to talk about ping pong in a positive light and be into it and promote ping pong.
Well, I assure you, I hate table tennis, ping pong.
I hate it.
I could not hate it more.
I used to be ambivalent.
I used to not care.
And then I go to my search because you press a little magnifying glass and it gives you a bunch of things.
And there's like 17 ping pong videos.
And I'm just bashing my phone on the table, screaming, never again.
I don't know why, but let's jump to this story because it needs to be done.
Trump plans to attend oral arguments in Supreme Court birthright citizenship case.
That is tomorrow, ladies and gentlemen.
It is going to be amazing.
I'm going to be sitting here listening to these arguments.
It's going to be a lot of fun.
Depending on what time they start, maybe I'll do like a live stream and we can just like listen in and do a listening session where I will explain why the people arguing for it are dumb.
So everybody knows the arguments that we've gone over them a million, one times.
The Supreme Court's going to hear the arguments.
I do not, I'm sorry, there's literally no argument for it.
Did the founding fathers think that someone from China could bring their kid here, could come here pregnant, give birth, that kid could be president of the United States?
And I don't know what argument you're going to have.
You're going to have Kavanaugh being like, are there any other countries that have a practice comparable?
And they're going to be like, there's like one.
Not really.
It's like, oh, so why is the United States allowing anyone to bring their children here?
Here's the other thing I'll just say about this.
Maybe you want to make the argument that in the early days, they did not imagine that planes would exist.
So they said, it's fine.
If someone's here and the kid is born, the kid's a citizen.
Because they viewed it as a 100 times a year thing out of millions of people.
That's not really a big deal.
But certainly we can reassess today based on modern technology and issue a new ruling and saying, well, based on the ease of access and the illegalities that are surrounding this, notably illegal birth tourism, at this point we can say it's over.
Yeah, well, I mean, this is clearly not the intent behind birthright citizenship.
Just on its face, anybody can see that.
You don't even have to have half a brain cell to understand that.
But to say that people can, yeah, just hop, skip, and jump across the border, take a flight over from China, have your kid, and that kid is automatically a citizen is a pretty ridiculous argument altogether.
Yeah, and like it's consensus across the entire old world that, you know, it's citizenship by blood, right?
You like to have to have some stake to actually become a citizen of the country, some like some level of heritage at some degree, whether it's parents or grandparents.
Where in the new world, across all the settler colonies, we have birthright citizenship because like America's unique case with the slaves, but like the majority of these New World countries, I think Colombia is the only one that doesn't actually have birthright citizenship.
It was because they were bringing in a lot of immigrants.
We needed to settle the frontier as quickly as possible.
Just give them the citizenship and send you on your way.
Where we're not trying to settle a frontier anymore.
And then in the United States, it's like 25% of all pregnancies end in abortion.
So it's like for rates far lower than the rates that were aborting our children in the West, Spain just permanently exterminated pretty much all of them.
Even if Europe lifted a finger, they could expel all the Muslims tomorrow.
They wouldn't have to do a reconquista.
It would be quite easy.
Most of these people are on the welfare team.
It's like not a not a conquest in the sense of even prior Muslim conquests.
Like Spain is just incomparable to what Spain is now, where Spain could literally just pass a bill to tell 80% of them to leave and they would have no choice but to leave.
And so the issue is when you say, if we had the willpower to do it, you can't have the willpower when the people who are coming to your home are saying outright, I get to vote too, and you, and I vote not to remove me.
I agree, but it's just in the West, like at every turn from the United States to Britain to France to Germany have all voted less migration, less migration, get these people out of here.
It's the government in and of itself, even these like right-wing parties, which are just like siphons basically for like actual right-wing energy.
Yeah, I guess the point I was making is like, I wouldn't equivalate what would be like a Hernan-Cortez level conquest to like what these people are doing now would be the equivalent to like a homeless squatter in Los Angeles in a decrepit building.
It's like all they really did is show up and squat here despite clamoring.
But because the politicians have Hispanic voters, Trump needs these, but they issued a mandate telling the Republicans to back off mass deportations because they were losing Hispanic voters.
So that's why it's like, that's why people are frustrated at like the Myra Flores statement, for example, because it's like, if we just ran up the numbers in the white community, we wouldn't need to basically water down our message.
Yeah, whites, it was like, I think it was like 58, 42 for Trump.
So, yeah, I mean, it's, but if you like, again, it's a difficult thing because it's just like at a certain point, the problem more so is like a procedural issue.
It's like, if we keep voting for the less immigration party and then we get more immigration, then at a certain point, you have to question the entire system at large.
Okay, is democracy capable of delivering a result that would hurt the stock market?
That's basically the question at play.
And the answer is probably no.
Like, the market comes first no matter what.
The GDP must go up.
And migration up until like literally five minutes ago was kind of a cheat code for the GDP because you just brought in like excess spenders, people that were going to spend money, consume money.
And if you distill the white population for groups that would be considered kind of the heritage American population, it's an even much higher proportion that's voting Republican.
Like the group in the United States that votes the most Republican is English Americans.
And that's, you know, would be considered kind of the core group.
So like the further out you get from like that Anglo-Protestant core of the United States, as like Warren McIntyre would put it, the more unlikely you are to see voting patterns that would indicate like protecting the border, you know, implementing like Christian values in society and these sorts of things.
Well, I mean, it's pretty wild to watch like the NBA stuff where they booted that dude from the team and then you had that football player came out and defended him.
I will say this.
The NBA just basically fired a guy for saying pride events are unrighteous and he serves Christ.
Where are all the prominent Christians in every fan?
And also on top of that, I'm sorry, we had to endure as I mean, NBA fans rather, and the players have to endure them celebrating Pride Month and painting BLM on courts and kneeling during the national anthem.
There's no problem when people do anything of that sort, but the second that a Christian defends his faith, then it's a problem.
And again, it was something that was so mundane, so inoffensive, just saying, look, this is something that I don't agree with.
And he lost his job for that.
That's totally ridiculous.
And again, I'm not saying that companies must, you know, should be forced to hire people that have views that don't align with the company's, you know, whatever their brand or what have you.
But at the same time, like we do have a First Amendment that protects not only your right to speech, but your right to express yourself and have your religion.
So, where is that same kind of defense for the First Amendment?
Again, and if this, like I said, this guy's a friend of mine, but I know that if it were some speech that he didn't agree with, in fact, he's actually probably more wishy-washy on the freedom of speech than at least anyone in this room.
And they would never say, oh, you know, this is bad speech.
You know, they would always be like, oh, you know, if it's bad speech, this is something that we should definitely, you know, we should limit what people can say on the internet or we can, you know, he's made similar comments to that.
And it's just, it's, it's so transparent that it's all about the fact that, well, I'm on the left and this guy is what I consider a Christian or what I consider someone on the right, you know?
And also, like, I think part of the reason you're not seeing like a lot of Christians go to bat for this guy is because Christians have gotten really soft on the gay, the LGBT issue, like in the last 10 years.
Because Christians are, especially evangelicals, are really sensitive to like how they're perceived by the world because they're ultimately evangelicals are like trying to bring people into the church.
They're saying, you need to come.
You need to come to our church.
You need to become a Christian.
So it's actually kind of a healthy tendency as they're like worried about putting, like, turning people off.
The problem is this issue is so out of step with like what the current consensus is from the world and the country by and large.
So yeah, as soon as you say like, yeah, maybe two gay guys getting married, I don't actually view that as a marriage.
It doesn't matter how left-wing you are on every other issue.
You're going to be perceived as like a right-wing bigot, et cetera.
I think the reason you're not seeing a lot of these Christians speak out, again, is because that is the one issue that makes Christians really uncomfortable when they have to speak out on.
That's why every time you see a pastor go up to give a sermon over like a passage that discusses homosexuality, they give you like a 15-minute preamble about how they don't hate homosexuals and they apologize for how Christians have treated homosexuals in the past.
That's why you see whenever you see the deconversions, right, where people have this like reckoning and they realize, I'm not a Christian anymore.
I'm so out of step with like my church, et cetera.
Typically the issue you see them cite is how the church treats homosexuals.
I mean, Rhett and Link comes to mind where Rhett and Link had this like video series.
It was so long ago now, but they were like, I can't be a Christian anymore.
I'm leaving the church.
And the main reason they cited, out of all the problems people could have with Christianity, out of all the critiques, all like, even if they go through like, you know, the history of the Bible and maybe where they think there's like they could try and poke holes, et cetera, Rhett and Link were like, I had a gay friend and I realized I couldn't hug him anymore.
Like if I were like to be true to my Christian colleagues, I couldn't even hug him anymore.
So therefore I can't be a Christian.
And that just kind of shows you how strong this, like the homosexual issue is and how much pressure there is from the LGBT kind of lobby or community, whatever you want to call them, because Christians are absolutely petrified on this issue.
And then in addition to that, people leave the church because they're so afraid of being perceived as a bigot, because that's like, what is the one thing in America that you cannot be above all else?
It's a bigot.
That's a horrible thing.
You do not want to be a bigot.
Granted, a lot of people on the right are now just like, I don't care what you call me anymore.
But the reality is the vast majority of people, people aren't watching this show, but the vast majority of Americans are still really concerned with how they're perceived.
Let's pull this story in light of this conversation.
We have this from SCODIS blog.
Supreme Court sides with therapist in challenge to Colorado's ban on conversion therapy.
So this was big news that dropped today.
Course, the only person who didn't agree was Katanji Brown Jackson because anyway, the Supreme Court on Tuesday's in a challenge to Colorado's ban on conversion therapy treatment intended to change a client's sexual orientation or gender identity for young people back to the lower four young people back to the lower courts for them to apply a new standard by a vote of eight to one.
The justices agreed with Kaylee Chiles, the licensed counselor challenging the law that ban the ban discriminates against her based on the views that she expresses in her talk therapy.
The federal appeals court, Gorsuch wrote, should have applied a more stringent standard of review and under strict scrutiny to determine whether the law violates the First Amendment.
But the Supreme Court also strongly hinted the ban would fail that test.
Gorsuch stressed that in cases like Chiles, Colorado Chiles, Colorado's ban censors speech based on viewpoint.
Because the First Amendment reflects a judgment that every American possesses an inalienable right to think and speak freely and a faith in their free marketplace of ideas as the best means for discovering the truth.
Gorsuch continued any law that suppresses speech based on viewpoint represents an egregious result on both of those commitments.
She argued the majority's opinion could be ushering in an era of unprofessional and unsafe medical care administered by effectively unsupervised healthcare providers.
It was always the craziest thing to me that they made conversion therapy illegal.
If an individual is gay or trans and decides they want to go to a doctor to stop that behavior, that is their choice.
Well, and I think it's also the rise in therapy has coincided with the rise in things like social media that have taken human interactions out of your daily life.
Like this is in conversion therapy is just stupid on its face as a ban.
But for you to not be able to tell a little boy that he's a little boy under the guise of you're going to hurt somebody's feelings or hurt somebody's perceived ideology is just ridiculous.
People I know and have known for a long time all seem to have this like low-level depression about everything right now.
We talked about this last week.
I was talking about this with my wife.
Here's how the story started.
We went to Frederick because we were like, we had to do some like administrative stuff in Maryland because we saw the properties over there.
And then on the way back, I was like, oh, we should go to the liquor store because we used to stop at this liquor store in Brunswick that has the craziest booze.
That's where we got all the Pappy and stuff.
And then, you know, my wife's like, yeah, she's like, I'll get a great wine and you got, you know, I'll get a nice wine.
You can get something for the studio.
And I was like, well, nobody drinks anymore.
And I was like, there was a point in like 2022 where we had this shelf in the old studio with tons of booze, like really expensive stuff, like $2,000 tequila.
And when guests would come in, I'd be like, make yourself a drink.
And they'd go, oh, wow.
And then they'd make themselves a drink.
Slowly after that, people started drinking less and less.
And so we stopped restocking because we just had booze sitting there and nobody was drinking it.
Then I got to the point where every single guest was like, you know what?
I stopped drinking.
And I'm not saying drinking correlates.
Around this time, people seemed to be having less and less fun as well.
And maybe it is drinking, I don't know.
But it used to be that before the show, it was shenanigans.
Guests would come, they'd bring a bunch of people with them.
Then there'd be like, we'd show them Chicken City.
There'd be people playing games, watching movies.
There'd be people skateboarding.
Now it's like everybody feels largely like to a lower degree depressed.
Not just, you know, around here.
It's like people are kind of like, I don't know.
But the guests we bring on don't drink anymore.
People are kind of like, well, you know, I'm just going to, I'm just going to head out.
People don't stick around.
It feels like, and again, I know, like, maybe it's just us, but whatever, but I've experienced this at restaurants, the places we used to go hang out in Frederick.
Like drinking for the most part is a social, that's something you do when you're socializing.
It's more of a, it's not an upper per se, but it's something that you do to, you know, let loose and get a little rowdy, for lack of better words.
I feel like this is correlation to the rise in, you know, smoking and vaping and things like that, too, which are, I mean, pretty anti-social behaviors.
We need scattered EMPs everywhere that wipe out the grid and send us back to the 1800s so that we're forced to have community again and then we'll be happy.
Part of the problem is this is one of the cases where like Fox News, primetime television is more correct than like anybody else in this.
It actually is liberalism.
Like liberalism in and of itself, specifically for young men, which have like the highest depression rates as far as like reporting, clinical depression.
The reason for that is because it eliminates all things that young men are supposed to be doing, which is at least pursuing greatness in the sense of pursuing some way of cementing yourself in the history books.
It was like Sam Hyde had a joke about how 100 years ago, an autistic dude would be going through his town and documenting every beetle in his town.
And he'd be like this great, you know, like documenter of beetles and that sort of thing.
And he had a beetle named after him.
And then now he's just grinding hours on like Factorio or something like that.
And there's truth to that.
It's because every avenue for a young man that would typically be there that would allow them to do great things has been completely shut off.
Likewise, every empire throughout history, every civilization that opened the most doors to young men to be able to do great things.
Like think about the British.
I mean, when the British went out and conquered the world, it didn't just happen organically.
It's because they opened those pathways up for young men to be able to go out and conquer new lands and these sorts of things.
The United States did something similar.
And now all of those are removed where liberalism, again, it strips away every identity that you even have.
It like reduces you to a blank slate.
Therefore, the only like accomplishment you can ever even have is like these like micro goals that are like permitted.
Like, oh, I got a promotion, these sorts of things.
But it has no like, it doesn't give you the fulfillment that you need as a young man.
And this is men are especially miserable and just tap out.
So one of the things I see with a lot of the, a lot of the people that I know from like back home, like where I grew up, who are still there, some of them have kids and are miserable, don't get me wrong.
But a lot of people that I know from all walks of life who are in their mid to late 30s with no family feel, I see like this minor depression.
And I'm like, I think it's because humans are supposed to have families.
And it was this old trope that when you got older and had kids, you didn't have friends anymore.
And it was like lamented.
But the reality was, you spent time with your family.
Like you don't want to go to the bar and meet up with the boys.
Like you want to take your wife and kids out to go to the lake and have a picnic, and that's what your enjoyment is.
So you don't really need to have these big social outings, but you do a little bit sometimes.
Well, now the problem is everybody's old.
I've had a bunch of friends and colleagues who have died already.
I'm 40.
And so it's not as pronounced.
It's a parabolic curve.
But as you get older, more people you know die.
And, you know, I was just shouting, rest in peace to Dan Kaminsky because I just looked him up and it's sad because he died a few years.
He died five years ago.
And he's the guy who solved DNS cash poisoning.
And I'm thinking about like five years ago, 10 years ago, the adventures, the crazy stuff that was going on.
And I was thinking, you know, it's not so much that great people are retiring or dying or checking out.
It's that there isn't this passionate older generation like millennials who are excited to pass on what they've learned to a younger generation because there's no younger generation.
And also, like, specifically with young men, is you're seeing this weird situation happen, specifically with like conservative men, where it's the same problem, but the solution is what we think we want to hear from young men.
Is they're pursuing family and like marriage and children, but they're pursuing it so hard that it's like that is the goal in and of itself.
Where it's like a family, having a family should be an outcome of a great life.
Like you're performing well in life.
You're doing well.
Therefore, you have a family.
Pursuing it creates this problem that's like scarcity mindset, where you like you start to approach life with this scarcity mindset and you'll just take whatever I can get.
And what that's resulting in is a lot of men and also women, like, because I know a lot of young women that are desperate to get married.
And the problem is when you're desperate to do something, you're just going to take what's available to you.
And the problem is now you're ending up with these men and women.
Young people I know are ending up in really horrible situations where they're married and it thinks they married the wrong person.
So it's not, that's why I'm not really, I'm just observing this trend happening.
I'm not really blaming people for ending up in that scarcity mindset.
It's just natural.
And there's not really, this is, this is the black people.
There's not really like a solution for it outside of like drastic measures that probably won't happen in our lifetimes, like banning the internet or something.
And so like part of the problem that you're seeing is there are young men and are young women, sorry, there are young men and are young women who would make great husbands, would make great wives, and they're out there and they're like longing for a spouse.
They just can't find each other because all the institutions that would have facilitated them meeting are dead now.
The churches, by and large, I mean, I know there's like the headlines in the New York Post, like men are flocking back to Christianity.
If you look at the data, Zoomers are like the least church generation.
I'm sorry, it's just the reality.
Like schools, a lot of people are opting out on college or people are having pretty miserable college experiences.
So they're not really meeting in college.
The only ways these people are meeting are like bars or like the dating apps, which is the overall majority are dating apps.
The problem is the people that have the temperament to be like a really good spouse are really put off by dating apps.
They hate dating apps and they're miserable on there.
That's why leading to even more depression, more black pillars.
That's why what you do is you go to the supermarket and you know, you're like, you're walking and there's like, you know, there's a woman and you're like, you know, I want to meet her.
The problem is, to your point, where, and this is the point you make all the time, and it's true, is like, this is the smallest generation, you know, of the modern world.
Maybe, but it's because the way it used to work is the boomers would have a rock band.
They'd listen to Zeppelin.
And there's 80 million boomers.
So when they sell tickets to Zeppelin, when these people are now in their late 20s, early 30s, and they have money, they pack the stadium.
But millennials are bigger.
So boomers die a little bit.
There's about 60 million now.
They start retiring.
They don't care to go to shows.
There's 80 million millennials, and the promoters go, listen, if we're going to book a stadium, let's take a look at like the millennial market's 80 million, the boomer market's 60 million.
Do the millennials.
Now millennials are 80 million.
Gen Z is 80 million.
It's the same.
And they're saying, eh, we can get Gen X and Millennials on Smashing Pumpkins.
So we're not going to Sabrina Carpenter.
In 10 years, there's going to be microscopic Gen Alpha, Gen Z, and they're going to say, Look, we can get between Gen X and Millennials, 100 million people to sell tickets.
Nobody wants to see a Gen Z artist.
There's no, so if you had a Gen Z artist, the younger generation is listening to them.
So with Smashing Pumpkins, Gen X was like, let's go.
And then I was a little kid going, let's go.
So then when we're older, we're all watching.
Now you've got a smaller generation.
So when Sabrina Carpenter pops up, there's no young people.
There's only 40 million Gen Alpha.
So when they're like, between Gen Z and Gen Alpha, we've got 100 million potential market.
Millennials, Boomers, Gen X, we still have 150.
So let's go where the money goes.
So for the first time in the past 100 years or 200 years, culture is stagnating intentionally because there's not enough individuals in the younger market to buy into new culture.
Well, I think we've probably had this discussion before, but I think a lot of it is because tastes are democratized now.
So the thing with Zoomers is not only are the palettes, if they're more diverse, they're able to access that music more easily because of Spotify, because of streaming.
You don't just buy the album, you don't listen to the radio anymore.
You just go and listen to whatever you want to listen to.
So people diverge and their interest and their tastes.
When you go into a rental car or in a Tesla, when you pick up the radio station, it's got the modern hits streaming and you have to select something else.
And a point, well, and a point everyone misses on this issue specifically is like the reason why, and people, this is going to be controversial, but it's true.
A large reason why genres like rock are supposedly dying out is because it's a conspiracy to shut down our people's music.
Well, no, that, but that's kind of actually the point is that, yes, Zoomers are like the most diverse generation in history, like half non-white.
So that's why, again, like Latin artists are huge.
It's not just, it's not, it's actually organic.
Like Zoomers, a large proportion, the largest proportion so far of Zoomers, it's like 30% of Zoomers are historically.
No, I think while your points about ethnicity and birth and all that stuff are true, the fact that in movies, in order to hit a certain tone, they have to use rock songs proves that rock actually is the dominant popular culture, but is being suppressed.
What I'm saying is in terms of a soundtrack that captures an emotion, when you have a robot jumping out of the sky and he's about to slam onto the ground, they're playing Guns N' Roses.
When he starts fighting, it plays Welcome to the Jungle because the statement, Welcome to the Jungle, resonates with a robot punching other robots.
So then I think you're missing my point that when they make a new movie for young people, but they put Guns and Roses in it, they're saying that the emotion required in this is rock, but then for some reason, they won't put new rock songs on Apple's default player.
Because culturally American sells like in Hollywood.
Hollywood is still like, that's like, that's the preeminent culture in the movie is like this kind of American culture where Apple music is just trying to figure out who's listening to what and the majority of American culture.
I mean, like, the Black Panther soundtrack charted after that movie came out because the movie was wildly popular, and everyone clocked that as like, this is a culturally by Spacehog.
Because also in the 90s, you could be serious about things and still be perceived as cool, where with Zoomers, everything has to be with a degree of irony.
So if you actually try to be serious and produce something serious, everyone thinks it's cringe and gas.
Because at the beginning of this year, everybody, yeah, everybody at the beginning of this year was like, are we going to channel 2016 energy for 2026?
Yeah, and there's like certain music that takes me back to 2016.
Like the Fuse album by Drake, when I hear that, I just think about summer 2016.
And like, you're cringing, but like, Zoomers may be able to actually communicate that to their children, and then it could turn into Hotline Blink could turn into like kind of the hotline album.
We're going to go to the Rumble Ransom chats and all that, but all these MTG woke nerds are really mad because I pointed out that magic is a game of chance and skill and that it's never been subject to.
We've been talking about this gambling stuff.
And so this like, this guy says he can beat me at magic.
And I'm just like, the first thing I point out is I love human beings because humans have this great capability to assume they are stronger, smarter, and better than literally everybody, no matter what.
Like here am I, a guy who's played magic for 30 plus years.
It's 32 years now, with a half a million dollar Magic the Gathering collection, a ridiculous amount of magic cards, winning tons of tournaments and playing very seriously most of my life.
And this guy's just like, I could take him.
And it's like, bro, like, by all means, you can say, I don't know, maybe I could.
That's fine to say.
But like going on Twitter, like, Tim Poole's a dumbass.
I'll beat him.
But my favorite part, and the reason I bring this up, is that this woman then tweeted something like, right-wing chuds think they're good at magic or whatever as a cope.
And then my response was just like, you know, the craziest thing to me is that I was winning tournaments before you even existed.
That's like, I'm not saying to be a dick.
It's just kind of a crazy thought to me that like she was 26 and I was like, man, I had actually already been playing for like five or six years when you were born.
Like you were literally in the hospital screaming and I was winning like tournaments.
Yeah, but I also, it's very interesting because both your points on the music are the fact that we're like yearning for nostalgia and what we grew up with.
But, you know, I think like people have always experienced that.
I mean, I think like our parents, my parents at least, like they watch like the Andy Griffith show and they find tremendous nostalgia on that, but they were alive in the 50s and 60s.
The things that in my mind, I'm like, those are the days are the phone rings and me and my brother running full speed to answer the phone before the other could because we just wanted to answer the phone.
There's no cell phones.
Thursday night, the new episode of The Simpsons comes on and my dad yells, it's on.
And then we all run into the living room, like The Simpsons, to watch it.
And then commercial break, you run in the kitchen, grab the Doritos, going to Blockbuster Video on Friday after school to pick out the video game to rent for the weekend.
But I think a lot of this is like rejecting, or like rejecting the internet, rejecting the things that we recognize, even though we're not willing to give them up, but the things that we recognize actually degrade society, degrade culture.
It is a hotel with five two-bedroom units, and each unit is a decade.
You have 90s, 80s, 70s, 60s.
Maybe we can do a 50s.
When you go into the 80s apartment and you rent it for however long, there's a phone on the wall.
When you turn the TV on, it plays television from that time.
So if it's a Friday, we will pick a period like 1984 on a Friday and have the actual television where you can change the knob and put on whatever TV shows we're on.
And when you want to order food from like Domino's or Pizza, whatever existed back then, they will show up in the appropriate uniform carrying the appropriate things.
You will be back in time.
And you could do a 90s one where you are in a house in the 90s and the windows will be TV screens.
And when you look out the window, it will just be the 90s.
We've talked about doing this.
There's one big constraint, and that is the high propensity for suicides.
I am not joking.
That was one.
Whenever we bring this up, the concern is some middle-aged dude who got divorced seven years ago is going to go to the 90s room and he's going to sit there in the bedroom with like all the posters from all the bands from when he was a kid, start crying, and then take his own life.
And we are like, so how do you do it?
Because there is that powerful depression and nostalgia, you know?
To be fair, would it not be the greatest thing ever to book like two nights at a hotel where as long as you're in this phone is on the wall and like it's a it's a 90s experience?
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We got Evan for us as Trump said that the operation in Iran will end and I think one or two weeks.
We shall see.
Well, he's got a big announcement tomorrow.
He may end it's over.
I mean, he may announce it's the end.
He may end it's over.
He may say, we're done.
We're done.
I honestly think, based on that big thread, one of his strategies may have been to intentionally shut down the Straight of Hormoose because it puts tremendous pressure on a whole bunch of other countries and locks.
So long as he says, we're done with these campaigns.
We're going to keep some troops in the region just for stability.
And then he intentionally lets straight-inform moves be closed.
If there is a 30-year-old guy living in China who was born here and he doesn't live here, we just void that right away.
Done.
No exploitation.
I don't care how long it's been.
But if there's someone who's been living here and they're 30 years old and they've only ever lived here, and the guy's name is like, you know, you know, let's say his name was Juan Gonzalez, and he speaks Spanish, but he also speaks English and he likes the Yankees.
I'm like, he's born here.
He's a citizen.
I'm not worried about it.
We're not going to denaturalize people like that.
The big concern is birth tourism and manipulation, exploitation.
Like, I think they should evaluate entire communities that have refused to assimilate.
I think it's like if you have any loyalty to another country, what, three, four generations at that point, your citizenship is just paperwork primarily.
I mean, again, this is the truth: a lot of those Somalis are here legally.
They got all their paperwork, and a lot of them were born in Somalia.
A lot of these were born in Somalia.
Same thing in Dearborn.
Actually, the majority of those people in Dearborn were born in Michigan.
So it's like the denaturalization, it just doesn't feel good because it's like, well, they like a lot of the same cultural things that I do.
But really, when you drill down to like what's actually important to you, how do you evaluate the world?
So it's like, I think, I think you got to get aggressive.
I think you've got to like really evaluate entire communities.
And I mean, there could be room for exceptions, obviously, as there always is, but no, exceptions don't disprove the norm, and you've got to really get a little aggressive with these types of things.
Oh, no, I was just going to say, I completely agree.
I mean, we look at places like Little Mogadishu in Minnesota, and these people are completely defrauding our country.
They're literally ripping off our country and, you know, and the American taxpayer, and they're not benefiting the system at all.
I don't really care if they're here legally or not.
There has to be a line that we draw in terms of you're either a benefit to this country and you assimilate and take on our cultures and norms and value them, or you get the hell out.
I think that the more we can do to make sure that the people that are in the United States are here because they actually care about our society and care about the values that we have, the better.
You're not going to make America worse by getting rid of people that hate America.
It's so sad because it's like it's so sad because it's like California really is.
It is geographically the crown jewel of the United States.
Like that's as good as it gets geographically.
They have everything.
It's the envy of the world.
And it's being occupied.
This is why Democrats go after the most vital parts of American society.
This is why you look on the Christianity side.
That's why they targeted the Episcopal Church first because it's like, what could what epitomizes American Christianity more than the church that like 32 presidents were a part of?
It's just to my initial point, like the Sleeve McDichel, Anson Sweeney, Daryl Archideld, Anatoly Smorin, Ray McScrit, Mick Sriff, Glenn Allen Mixon, Kevin No Gilny,
Tony Smerick, Bobson Dugnut, here's Dean Westri, Mike Truck, Gwigat Rortugal, Carl Dandleton, Todd Benzalez.
Hroldren says, we need to make ballot harvested ballots have a stupid process involved for it to be considered valid to make it so that only the people that care will vote that way.
So here's something interesting I saw the other day, and I think I quote-tweeted this or retweeted it or something, but it was like Jack, the original Twitter guy, maybe bought title and said you can now upload and sell music as in like a band camp type of thing.
Because I think rock music requires, like, I made this point in the show: is I think rock music requires a level of sincerity that Zoomers aren't willing to engage with.
And look how popular they are despite not getting the promotion and they're not getting, they're not being treated the way massive bands of yesteryear would be treated.
I mean, our, our, our, like, the songs that we had that were in the top five at rock radio and like our number ones and stuff like that, they were, they were all in, I think our first one was in like 2008.
We had a song that went to number that broke into like the top 10.
And then we had multiple songs and made it into top five between 2008 and 2012.
Our first number one was 2013.
So, I mean, I understand what you're saying, but like that's that.
So I'm in a mall, and I see these three girls wearing like hot topic clothing.
She's wearing an, she's wearing a Gur shirt from Invader Zim.
The other girls got a black button up open with black pants and a chain wallet.
And she's got striped purple socks.
And I'm like, did I go back and die?
What's happening?
It's the 90s.
I'm like, I felt like it was 1997 and I was at Vidim Park again.
And the fucking teenage girls wearing their hot topic shit were back.
And I'm like, for the love of, I'm kidding, by the way, but for the love of all is holy, I'm like, why are these 16-year-old girls dressing like it's 2001?
Could you imagine this?
Just when you were like, so you guys were both born in the 90s?
Like when you were growing up, imagine when I see kids today dressing like it's the 90s, that would be like you guys growing up with people dressing like it was the 70s or 80s.
Well, because like the 2000s or the aughts, I think it's what they're supposed to call it.
It's like the last decade that had like a defined culture.
Like that's why that's why Zoomers love the Y2K stuff because it was the last time that there was like an identifiable culture that you could engage with.
Like the 2010s, it's kind of difficult to pin down what it was.
Do we not then agree that the preferable circumstance would be the powerful networks regain control of cultural hegemony, hegemony, and then YouTube, Spotify's platforms wane in power, and then it's just five streaming services, and everybody laughs at Big Bang Theory, 30 million views.
Everybody loves the same music, and they all hold hands and sing songs.
You go to the bar, and the new hit rock song comes on that just premiered last night on the amazing new Star Trek written by, you know, the original writers from the 90s.
In terms of the culture that we consume when it comes to, for lack of better words, like pleasure and that kind of stuff, yes, but I think that it would have negative effects that trickle down into like exactly what we're doing now, like engaging in, you know, political discourse and things like that.
But like the general idea is they live in this reality where they believe that they've been alive for a long time and that there's a history, but they actually are on a computer program that only existed for 20 years.
My point is the truth is, my friends, Earth was created in the year 1990, and all of your memories prior are fake.
And the reason why everything's breaking down is because the simulation started with a bunch of high-level individuals pre-programmed in existence.
But as time goes on, the generations are degrading.
And that's the experiment.
They were like, how many generations until you no longer have a Michael Jordan?
That is what's happening is we're like reaching the end of liberalism.
Like this is actually what happens at the end is like everything, even the great parts of it, the parts that we've enjoyed, begin to break down and fall apart.
That's all we're seeing is everything is just on fumes.
It's limping into the 2020s.
It probably shouldn't have made it out of the 2020s, but they got Trump after the first term.
So it's like, it's limping into the 2020s, but we are seeing it change and modify.
I still, you know, I'm still of the opinion that there is no appetite from the American people and no desire by the administration to have a long, drawn out occupied war.
First of all, second of all, even though there have been some assets moving to the Middle East that look like there might be some ground operations pending, that is not the same as the buildup before the Iraq war.
The buildup necessary to invade a country like Iran would be larger than the buildup that was used for Iraq because you don't have a bunch of desert that you're going to drive tanks over.
You have mountains that you have to get over.
You're not like, and I've said this a bunch of times as well.
You don't send in regular infantry unless there's a trailer behind them with a McDonald's, right?
Like they, they, that is the way that our logistics, yeah, that's the way our logistics works.
Like when you send troops in, the military can set up literal towns right behind them and they do all they can to make sure that the forward deployed have as many of as many comforts of home as they possibly can.
And that does mean things like fast food.
Those things are contracted through the military.
So, and none of that's happening.
So there is not going, there still is no evidence that there will be a long, protracted ground war in Iran.
So, and how you convince people, you don't because they're not interested in being convinced.
I mean, I think examples of that can be seen even today outside of this particular announcement with the Twitter battle going between Thomas Massey and Dan Bongino.
But that is wild how Massey is just ratioing Bongino nonstop with every point he makes, where he's literally calling out all the reasons why Bongino had to resign, not wanted to resign, not could have resigned, but had to resign.
There was literally an entire, there was an entire rebellion because a guy claimed, like Western missionaries finally penetrated the interior of China and one guy was just convinced by a missionary that he was like the son of Jesus Christ and then declared a cult and then it got so large that it caused like they literally rebelled and like we're trying to like take all of China and it killed like 20 million people.
And that's like a footnote.
It's like you can barely find the Wikipedia article, because when they die, they go big.
The joke is, in Futurama, Zap Brannigan famously defeated the killbots in the killbot war and he goes.
The secret was, I discovered the killbots had a preset kill limit, so I sent wave after wave of my own men at them until they hit that limit and stopped.
Maybe, maybe I can impart some knowledge on you then.
All right.
So if this was a profoundly Christian nation, then why would Adams sign the treaty of Tripoli?
That was when they were having the war with the Barbary Pirates.
And in Article 11 of the Treaty of Tripoli, it states, the U.S. government is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion and has no innate hostilities towards Muslims.
Why would they sign that if they're so devoutly Christian?
The federal government stayed out of it specifically because they were Christian factions that hated each other.
So they were like, we are not going to have a basis.
And Jefferson himself was a deist.
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But this was debated by the Senate and read out loud in the Senate, and this was unanimously ratified.
If they were so devout, why would they sit there and come back and say, okay, we're going to go ahead and sign this saying this is not a Christian country?
Well, also, like, they're not trying to make a philosophical statement about American society.
They're trying to provide diplomatic reassurance to a Muslim nation.
So it's like, you can't really pluck an article out of a treaty to then therefore like retroactively apply that to all the evidence that would say leading up to the American Revolution and then throughout the Constitution, how the Constitution was framed, that there wasn't concerns over sectarianism among like Christian denominations.
And then all that is completely overridden by the fact that, again, in a treaty, when they're negotiating with Muslims or trying to provide them reassurance, you say, okay, well, we're not like explicitly founded as a Christian nation, which I don't think anybody really disagrees with.
But again, the federal government was like, we're not going to get involved in internecine conflict.
This country, like the federal government stays out of these issues.
The states explicitly had requirements that you pronounce a faith in a Christian God in order to hold office.
All of them did.
And then around the time of the ratification of the Constitution and the formation of the government within the revolutionary period, they started to back off from this and not because of Christianity, but because of Protestantism versus Catholicism.
Jefferson himself was deist.
So Virginia said, just believe in God.
But it was all largely founded on the Christian moral tradition.
That was considered like a rogue, renegade Christian sect back then, or a religious sect broadly was like Baptists were seen as like out there.
So that is why, like leading up to the foundation, the difference between Anglican and Presbyterian was like enough of a problem during like the colonial era that the U.S. government just felt it would be worthwhile to, again, not implement a state church.
They didn't anticipate the fact that we would have like Hindus and Muslims and Jews and like all these groups like really exercising power and lobbying for their own interests.
If they anticipated that, they would have said, okay, we'll just keep like an Anglican church and power or something like that.
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You don't think that maybe like slavery, kind of how they kind of just used that to kind of get the southern colon to kind of fight in the Revolutionary War, that maybe they designed other things in there so that way that we didn't end up as a total theocracy?
Yeah, and the reason we had separation of church and state was to mitigate sectarian wars, which we were already used to seeing in Europe.
It was nothing to do with theocracy.
It was more to do with sectarianism.
They were worried about sectarianism.
Again, they didn't want to see, you know, inner Protestant, like literally 100 years before, like in the 16, 15, 1500s, we literally had Oliver Cromwell, the Glorious Revolution.
That was like a Puritan-led conflict.
They had sectarian, inter-Protestant like conflicts.
So they were like, they were Englishmen.
They were very used to this idea.
And that's what they were really afraid of.
I don't think they were really as afraid of a monarchy, especially of theocracy.
And they perceived any potential theocracy coming from the Catholic Church.
That's why they were so like vehemently anti-Catholic, like the majority of Americans were at the time.
And I'm willing, I'm willing if all Indiana residents, which are all patriots by and large, get to occupy the beautiful Southern California landscape and then we ban.
I think we're on the same, I think we would enjoy that.
Imagine how great Indiana is.
Now imagine a Hoosier-led California.
That's a beautiful thing.
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Okay.
Give us California.
We cap all those fuckers here in Indiana, but yeah.
Anyway, during the mission, he was accurately described as the loneliest man in the universe because when he was orbiting the far side of the moon while the other two guys were down on the lunar surface, he was cut off not only from his crewmates, but from NASA, from Mission Control, from Houston.
And also the British, there's a lot of pamphleting from the time of the Revolution where they referred to the American Revolution as the Presbyterian Revolt.
And so that continues all the way into the Apollo missions.
And Michael Collins is a total patriot.
It's just a joke.
I do not actually think he was in the Sneeko chair.