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March 5, 2026 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
02:43:16
HE HAS DONE IT | Timcast IRL #1462 w/ Grace Unfiltered

Grace Unfiltered dissects GOP’s midterm meltdown—Crenshaw, Crockett’s losses, and Gonzalez’s ethics scandal—while exposing media bias, from Fox’s "truthful hyperbole" to MSNBC’s distortions. A Muslim woman’s unopposed GOP win highlights Republican disarray, as Trump’s pragmatism contrasts with D.C.-obsessed rivals. The episode ties cultural decay—AI-trained bots, "Karen" stereotypes, and Star Trek’s woke pivot—to biological determinism, arguing women’s empathy skews justice systems while men default to retribution. From World of Warcraft nostalgia to treaty-breaking pragmatism, the segment frames modern politics as a clash between instinct and ideology, with no room for compromise. [Automatically generated summary]

Participants
Main
a
adam salinas
12:03
i
ian crossland
11:13
p
phil labonte
08:44
t
tate brown
10:46
t
tim pool
01:19:13
Appearances
a
anya shakh
00:43
c
carter banks
00:39
d
danny polishchuck
01:09
j
jake tapper
cnn 00:31
Clips
d
donald j trump
admin 00:25
j
jasmine crockett
rep/d 00:17
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Speaker Time Text
Texas Primary Madness 00:01:46
tim pool
The Texas primary was absolutely crazy.
Dan Crenshaw got primaried.
He lost.
He's going to be out.
Jasmine Crockett, she lost.
She's out.
James Taylorico, of course, there's this whole controversy going on about how, strangely, Jasmine Crockett's accusing the Republicans of cheating, even though she got cheated by the Democrats and Colbert, which is weird.
But the big news we're all excited for is that Brandon Herrera has won in Texas' 23rd district, beating out Tony Gonzalez.
However, not by enough.
So it's going to go to a runoff.
But when you look at the hard numbers, Brandon Herrera has won.
Just didn't clear 50%.
So the expectation is he's likely going to win, especially because the Republicans are launching investigations to Tony Gonzalez.
More information coming out about the staffer he had an affair with who immolated herself and died.
I mean, it's an absolutely crazy story.
So we got a lot to break down as it pertains to these elections.
Apparently, there's one election, I guess, where a leftist Muslim woman won the Republican primary because she was unopposed.
And it's pretty embarrassing for the Republican Party.
So we'll talk about that.
Plus, oh man, war stuff.
The first sinking of a ship by submarine since, I think, World War II.
Everybody's talking about that.
And another crazy story in these elections.
A man who is currently facing criminal charges, accused of murdering the man who raped and kidnapped his daughter.
He won his primary.
And everyone's just like, basically, everyone on the right sitting back and going, yep.
They all voted for him, probably.
But when you actually look at the story, it sounds just like self-defense.
And a lot of people are trying to make it out to be like this guy, Liam Neeson style, hunted down this guy.
It seems more like self-defense.
So we're going to get into all that.
We got a lot to talk about, my friends.
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Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more, we got Adam Salinas.
adam salinas
Thank you so much for having me, man.
My name is Adam, and I go by Grace Unfiltered on all of my social media platforms, and I appreciate you for flying me in, man.
tim pool
Right on, what's your thing?
What do you do?
adam salinas
So I have a platform that we talk faith, politics, and kind of, you know, news around the world.
And it all started, you know, kind of back in 2014.
I mainly talked about faith.
And when I had all of these individuals that I had met over the years started to ask me certain questions about some of the propositions that were coming into law in the state of California, instead of answering the same question 20, 30, 40 different times, I started doing a post about it.
And now we're here.
tim pool
Right on.
We got whatever this is.
ian crossland
That's how I feel every morning I wake up.
I was inspired by all the hat wearers in the house.
tim pool
I think you were just inspired by Guns N' Roses.
ian crossland
Carter's the only one not wearing a hat.
I'm heavily inspired by Appetite for Destruction, by the way.
If you don't know the album, get it.
Have you heard it?
tim pool
Probably.
ian crossland
Oh, dude, it is the best.
If you want to know where rock and roll came from, why the 90s were awesome, listen to Appetite for Destruction.
It is the answer.
And you can follow me at Ian Crossland.
I also want to shout out Alex Stein's big booty booty Latina love potion.
I'm drinking it right now.
It's excellent.
It's a Casper's newest coffee.
Spectacular.
It was so good that I had to bring it in and do a post of my own about it.
So go get it at casprew.com if you haven't yet.
tim pool
Alex Stein is not a doctor.
ian crossland
Alex Stein, yeah, it says this is actually guaranteed to spice things up in the bedroom, but also there's a caveat that is not guaranteed to spice things up in the bedroom.
tate brown
I'll say there's a little tension in the table right now because you're sipping on that.
unidentified
It's interesting.
tim pool
It's getting like – Well, it's all guys in here, Tate.
So I don't know what you're thinking.
tate brown
Jeez, Louise.
Yeah, anyway.
Yeah, that's why I throw the hat on when we're getting too close.
Like I need to get a haircut.
And then the hat just stays on.
ian crossland
Your beard looks nice today.
tate brown
I don't know what's like everything's getting wacky and wild.
Phil's just raw dog in the show right now.
phil labonte
Hello, everybody.
My name is Phil Levante.
I'm going to see you the heavy metal band all that remains.
I'm an anti-communist and counter-revolutionary.
tim pool
What's up, Carter?
carter banks
Gee, man, I really got to get a thing that's really fast like yours.
I do not have a hat on today, but I'm going to get one because Ian has inspired me.
I'm here pushing the buttons, priests on the show, and I'm pumped.
Thanks for coming out, man.
Let's get into it.
Bill Crystal's Influence 00:12:41
tim pool
Here's a story from non-stop local tri-cities Yakima because it was the only outlet that I could find that actually centered the story around the winner of the race, Brandon Herrera.
It says Republican Brandon Herrera advances to primary runoff election in Texas's 23rd congressional district, for which there is a single sentence which says Republican Brandon Herrera advances to primary runoff in election in Texas' 23rd congressional district.
See, the reason I opted for this non-stop local tri-cities Yakima NBC page is because literally every other outlet they title their stories like Gonzalez heads to runoff amid allegations of affair with aid in a tight primary race with conservative challenger Brandon Herrera.
I would argue indeed it is not a tight race as Brendan Herrera won handily.
However, in we got to scroll down here on this website.
In Texas, you've got to get at least 50%.
So, okay, fair, fair, fair.
It is relatively tight.
It's less than a thousand votes, but Brandon Herrera won.
And so the headline should be: either Gonzalez defeated by Brandon Herrera, however, they will both go to a runoff.
Every headline acts like Brandon Herrera, who I'm going to argue is substantially more famous than Tony Gonzalez.
This is what really irks me.
Okay, this is the reality of the establishment media and the machine state of this country.
By any metric, Brandon Herrera is more famous than Tony Gonzalez.
He's got millions of followers.
And I'm not saying that to disparage Tony Gonzalez, but Tony Gonzalez is like a rank and file member of Congress.
In his district, he's probably moderately well known.
But I guarantee you, if you go to any random place in the country and ask him, Do you know who Brandon Herrera is?
Do you know who Tony Gonzalez is?
You're going to get more people saying Brandon Herrera, he's a big YouTuber.
So that's why it irks me when he wins, he's more famous, and then you see all the media act like he doesn't matter because these people don't want to give air or space to anyone who would challenge that machine.
So, outside of that, we got a lot to talk about because Jasmine Crockett got fired and Dan Crenshaw got fired as well.
So, I mean, are we looking at?
Well, I will, I got to throw him in the mix, okay?
Lower Republican turnout than Democrat.
How are you guys feeling about all this?
phil labonte
So, I think that it's kind of not a surprise that Crenshaw got beat, honestly.
He's looked at as a swamp creature.
If you look at his history when it comes to stock trading, he's done a lot of things that people consider insider trading.
He's made a lot of money in the stock market since he's been in Congress.
It's fairly well known.
I think that the MAGA base kind of looks at him and says, No, he's just a boilerplate swamp creature, and we want to get him out and get someone else in.
tate brown
Yeah, I mean, Crenshaw is literally the worst.
I think everyone knew that.
It got to the point where we were all like, maybe we owe Pete Davidson an apology.
Like, that actually kind of was kind of a funny joke when you think about it.
Like, it got so bad.
So, good ridance.
phil labonte
Well, he had a lot of, you know, there were a lot of people that were looking to give him a chance when he first got in because he's a former Navy SEAL, you know, because of his pedigree and stuff.
And, and he just totally wasted it and totally blew it.
tate brown
Yeah, the GOP was a lot softer when he came in, too.
And then he just like ended up being this really like catty, vindictive guy.
Like, I don't even know how much of it really was his politics more so than it was just his personality.
It was just like he would crash out all the time.
He was literally like a gay guy, the way he behaved.
carter banks
He was like a curmudgeon.
tate brown
Yeah, he was always just like freaking out on people and he's always like trying to settle scores.
And the way he like tweeted was just like, it made you feel gross.
phil labonte
Patch McCain was very accurate for him.
tate brown
Yeah, there's a lot of great nicknames for him.
tim pool
It's so sad, though, because when he got in, he was so promising.
Everyone was excited.
ian crossland
Yeah, he was awesome.
I thought he was going to be the guy that spoke truth to power because he kind of did at the beginning.
tate brown
But I feel like a lot of people didn't even know about him until the Pete Davidson thing.
unidentified
What year?
tim pool
Well, I will say this.
The politicos, the space that I was in, when he won, we were like, let's go.
He's a big deal.
A new breed of better Republicans to challenge the machine state.
ian crossland
And then what happened?
tim pool
A combat veteran guy, right?
He's going to get in there and he's going to whip these suits into shape.
We had these pencil-necked DC guys who have never seen a fight in their lives.
Crenshaw comes in.
We were stoked.
And then he threatened to kill Tucker Carlson.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
Shout out to Stephen Edmonton.
adam salinas
I think it's one of those things that he ended up becoming the very product that we were trying to get out of office.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam salinas
You know, to where not every great individual with a great pedigree is meant for leadership.
You know, they were great in their field, but when they transitioned to this place of power, you're trying to vote for anything and everything that opposes that other party, even if it's far right.
And far right in the moment seemed like the perfect answer.
But then as years went on and that class begins to diminish over the years, now you realize like, oh, shoot, this probably wasn't the right guy to run things, you know, regardless of how many consecutive turns he was doing.
I think it's about time that Republicans are seeing, you know what?
It's not, it's not about having that far left, far right narrative.
It's about finding where conservatives were supposed to be the entire time.
phil labonte
Yeah, I think that makes it less.
tim pool
In Iran?
ian crossland
Did it COVID drive Dan Crenshaw insane?
Because he was normal at first, kind of a badass.
Then he got real quiet for a couple of years and I didn't hear from him.
And then he started bitching nonstop.
tim pool
Maybe, maybe there was like a deep state guy who somehow got access to Crenshaw's browser history and like knocks on his door and says, Mr. Crenshaw, and he's like, hey, man, I'm not going to listen to you, deep state guys.
And he's like, here's a list of your browser history.
He says, I will say anything you want.
ian crossland
Oh, did he get blackmailed?
I'm kidding.
tim pool
Maybe.
phil labonte
Someone was going to tell people what's actually behind the patch.
tate brown
Yeah, I think he's just like a ladder climber.
Because I remember when he first came in, everyone's like getting all hyped.
They were just going back to what he, his statements were on the initial Trump run, and he was like pearl clutching over Trump's like comments on Muslims.
He's like, this is so hateful.
Like, we can't, Americans, we're better than this.
So it's like, this guy clearly was a ladder climber.
And typically, when you're a ladder climber, you're actually really good at like hiding your cards, but he's terrible at it.
He has the worst poker face in politics.
Like, that's like what I led with this.
He's literally melting down all the time.
I've never seen him happy before.
Like, he's always just mad, freaking out, just like good.
And I think, honestly, his constituents probably don't even know anything about his politics.
They're just sick of his attitude.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
I just can't stand the guy.
tim pool
This is a light taste of what's to come this year with the midterm elections.
And you know, it's going to get real spicy towards the end of summer because the Democrats came out in force.
The turnout was very, very good for Democrats.
Republicans were down by like what 20%.
So a lot of Republicans are sounding the alarm saying, guys, if we can't get turnout, especially when you're trying to get like Ken Paxton to win to beat Cornyn and Herrera to beat Gonzalez, I mean, come on.
Like these, these elections very, very much mattered.
And although I would say it turned out very well on the Republican side, the turnout was relatively low.
So end of summer, Democrats are going to be coming out screaming and bashing their faces against the table that the apocalypse is happening.
You know, so we've got in our newsroom, we're running that channel where it's like, it's not, it's not a channel, it's four channels at once.
So you can see, I guess, what do they have pulled up?
Sports?
Like the top left is some sport channel.
I don't know you guys watch football or something.
But then you got Fox, MS Now, and CNN.
And it was absolutely hilarious before the show started.
MS Now's Chiron was Heg Seth says like talking about dead troops makes Trump look bad or something like this, which is like he definitely didn't say.
And then Fox was like, Democrats endorse murder or something.
Not even kidding.
And then CNN was like more missile strikes in Riyadh or whatever, something like that.
And I just thought it was absolutely hilarious to see the state of media in this country right now.
But I would argue that Fox News, hyper-partisan, Democrats endorse, you know, illegal immigrant crime or something like this.
And it's like, I get it.
It's like, okay, it's hyperbolic, but technically it's true.
Heg Seth saying that stop, claiming that people should stop talking about dead troops because it makes Trump look bad.
That literally never happened.
And so, like, the right is, you know, if watching Fox News, you're going to be biased.
You know, you're going to get information biased against Democrats, but opinionated and true, hyperbolic, perhaps.
And MS Now is just lying about what's going on.
Imagine what it's going to be like in August when we're a couple months out from the midterms.
And this is the Democrats' opportunity to put an end to Trump once and for all, because this is it for him.
This is his last opportunity.
If the Democrats win the midterms, they know they are going to jam a crowbar in the gears and then just lock everything up.
So they are going to be going out in massive force, screaming that the world is ending.
And my point on the MS Now thing is, you think that headline is crazy?
Wait till you see what they pull out.
Like Donald Trump will go to pet a dog and they'll speed it up 200% and it says Donald Trump repeatedly strikes dog.
It's going to be nuts.
It's going to be absolutely insane.
phil labonte
I mean, nowadays it's going to be just AI photos of the same thing or videos of the same thing.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
Well, you also get, you're going to get this negative feedback loop because like I don't like the inside baseball for how political media works is really the summer before the election cycle is when the money starts flooding in.
So you're going to get a negative feedback loop where some money starts coming in.
MS Now starts saying like, hey, if we don't win this election, it's all over.
All these donors are going to freak out and start pouring more and more money in.
So this is going to be like the most expensive midterm cycle, not just on the election side, but in the media side as well.
phil labonte
Do you think that the big donors are going to give money to the people that are, you know, that are essentially calling all rich people the evil?
And you think they're still going to open up their pocketbooks, books for that?
tate brown
Well, because they'd think they're the exception.
phil labonte
Well, wasn't Bernie Sanders' campaigns mostly funded by small donors and stuff?
tim pool
Yeah, yeah.
tate brown
So like, but that's kind of rare.
I mean, like, another example is the Herrera versus.
tim pool
No, no, no, no.
It was all millionaires and billionaires, but they only gave 20 bucks.
I'm kidding.
It wasn't.
It was mostly like working class, middle class people.
tate brown
And the Herrera-Gonzalez race is another example where Herrera was mostly, actually, I think it was entirely small donors.
And then Gonzalez was like all institutional.
But this is the thing that sucks is the reason that Gonzalez was so close because he's like literally has the most skeletons in his claws that we can look right at him in the eyes is because the cash on hand he had was still far far surpassed Herrera.
So it's like we're still playing in the old school game.
phil labonte
The point that I'm making is the people that are running for Congress, the energy is with the left now, is really on the far left.
And they've made it clear that they look at wealthy people as the enemy.
I just wonder if wealthy people that generally write the big checks to PACs and stuff, I wonder if they're going to open their pocketbooks when people like Bernie Sanders and RoConna are talking about wealth taxes or taxes on your property.
Right now, people have already started to leave California just because that is on the ballot.
It seems like it's a popular ballot measure and it might pass.
But at the same time, when the wealthy people are like, yo, we can't do this.
Are they really going to write checks for people that are going to be able to do that?
adam salinas
I think they're going to continue to write those checks because it's all a part of the grand scheme of things.
Because they'll end up with someone like Mamdani in New York and will continue to fund this whole spiel.
Right now, they're using this as bait that we got to tax the rich, we got to tax the rich.
Those rich donors that are donating to those Democratic parties are going to continue to do this because their next candidate is going to run on that whole phase of tax the rich, and it's going to happen like every single other time, the trickle effect.
But it will continue to come down.
phil labonte
But the evidence coming out of California is that they don't.
They leave.
They try to get away from that.
tate brown
To Tim's point, like, this sounds so cliche at this point, but TDS really does trump everything else because you have to think for these billionaires, they legitimately think Trump is going to exterminate the United States as it stands.
So that trumps everything else.
They're willing to risk it on them potentially getting taxed more if it means keeping Trump out.
And this happens from the center left all the way to the far left.
Look at Bill Crystal.
Bill Crystal's what he has wet dreams every night of bombing Iran.
He literally dreams and salivates about bombing Iran.
It's all he wants to see before he dies is burning flesh in Iran.
Trump bombs Iran.
All of a sudden, he's like, you know, Trump is committing like a war crime here.
And like, he's actually not following the rule of international law.
So it's like, every single one of these people, their lifelong dream, they will over the Trump hatred will overcome that every single time.
phil labonte
But Bill Crystal is a swamp monster.
Bill Crystal is left.
tate brown
He's left center.
phil labonte
He may be left center, but he's not a business person that's a billionaire that's writing the massive checks.
tate brown
Bill Crystal will cut a check to Mamdani if it means keeping Trump out of office.
Rumors and Hoaxes 00:15:29
tim pool
Probably.
Well, let's jump to the story.
We got this from CBS News, House Ethics Committee to investigate rep Tony Gonzalez over allegations of affair with aide who died by suicide.
For those who are not familiar, this is the guy that Brandon Herrera is running against.
He cheated on his wife with a woman who then killed herself.
And, you know, I'm going to say this: there are details about the story everybody in the Beltway knows.
We're here in D.C., basically.
And so we hear all these rumors, which for which, you know, I can address a little bit.
And I'm careful because I don't know what exactly is true, but everybody's got a similar story.
However, I will stress: there are some people who think it wasn't suicide.
And I'm going to go ahead and say that at least the conversation in the Beltway and what we know from the press is that the staffer who died did die by suicide.
That being said, I don't know exactly, and I want to stress this: there are some people that think it's more nefarious, as it were, in that Tony Gonzalez, the implication they're trying to make.
We see some of these rumors running is that he's going to lose his election if it comes out that's having an affair.
The woman he's having an affair with is then found immolated.
She says, her dying breath, I don't want to die.
And people immediately take that as somebody tried to silence her.
Now, I got this.
Douglas Mackey tweeted this out.
She committed suicide by lighting herself on fire.
When she was found heavily burned and pleading for water, her last words were, I don't want to die.
100% of those who attempt to commit suicide but somehow miraculous survived, usually they jumped off a bridge or tried to overdose, have reported regretting it.
Life is precious.
And it's true.
He has this from the story.
It says, Santos Avil was regional district director for Rep Gonzalez, a Republican representing Texas 23rd District.
She joined his staff in November of 2021.
Her mother, Nora Ann Gonzalez, previously told the San Antonio Express News that her daughter was upset on the night of September 13th because her eight-year-old son was spending the weekend with his father.
Santos Aviles, Avil's favorite pronouns, and her husband had separated and were sharing parental responsibilities.
Her mother said, sensing her daughter's distress, Gonzalez said she went to the home that night to find Santos Avilas burned and pleading for water.
The last thing she said is, I don't want to die.
So when this story came out, tons of people were saying, it kind of sounds like somebody was killed, that somebody was lit on fire.
And what I will say is this: the story that's been circulating in the Beltway is that she calls him on the phone, threatening to kill herself unless he drops everything and comes to see her.
And he's like, get out of here, crazy lady.
So on the phone, she dumps fuel on herself and then screams, I'll do it, I'll do it.
And again, I don't know that any of this is true.
These are just rumors that are circulating.
And then here's the thing people need to understand: okay, they think that in order to light fuel, you have to press flame to the fuel.
That is not correct.
The fuel itself is not flammable.
It is the fumes that are flammable.
And so, again, I don't know if this is true, but the rumors that have been circulating is that she snapped a lighter or something.
She like splashes herself while filming and then like snaps a lighter, like, I'll do it.
And goes up.
Because when you are splashed with fuel, the fumes are coming off you.
An ignition source near the fumes will light you up.
Now, again, I don't know that any of that is true.
And I'm just saying this: you got all these members of Congress, and they're like, Yeah, this is what everyone's saying happened.
You know, now there's a couple things.
Maybe the reason those rumors are circulating is because it, you know, for an establishment Republican guy, it's ooh, salacious.
So there's nothing, there's no foul play.
You know what I mean?
Because right now, like, we don't really even know what happened in the official reporting.
They've not released any evidence or details.
tate brown
This guy sounds electable.
That's all I know.
ian crossland
When did she?
tim pool
People are voting for him.
ian crossland
She lit herself on fire last September 13th.
It was a long time ago.
You'd think there'd be a criminal investigation if it was anything.
tim pool
I covered it when it happened on my morning show.
tate brown
Yeah, I remember Tony Ortiz was covering it pretty heavily as well.
ian crossland
I literally had that, not this literal situation, but I dated a girl for a long time and she threatened to kill herself.
I was like, it just got to the point where the threats, I stopped coming home to try and placate the woman because if you're going to do it, do it.
I can't stop you and I'm not going to shut down my life for you.
And so I empathize if that's what this guy was going to do.
tim pool
Ian just looks at her.
He's like, do it.
ian crossland
I didn't say, do it.
tate brown
That's kind of like really.
That's kind of like a point to you because it's like, she's like, I can't live without him.
tim pool
No, no.
Ian, Ian, when she said it, he goes, no, wait, don't.
ian crossland
Yeah, it wasn't about me.
It never was.
tate brown
You know, she was like, one of my boys, three of his exes became lesbians.
And like the first one, you're like, that's weird.
The second time, it's like, okay.
The third one, it's like, I think this guy is so good that she realizes I'm never getting a better man.
So I might as well just switch him out.
tim pool
Yeah, or the other way around.
Like, if everywhere you go, you smell, you know, poop.
You got to check your boot.
So he must be doing something to these women where they're like, oh.
tate brown
Oh, yeah, maybe it'd be so bad they ruin men forever.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam salinas
I mean, I've met multiple individuals throughout my life, especially when I used to travel for ministry and stuff.
Individuals that literally tried to commit suicide, try to take their own life away.
And every single one of them had said the exact same thing, whether it was jumping a bridge, whether it was an individual that I knew that tried to light themselves on fire.
And thankfully people got there in time.
Those situations, nobody in the heat of the moment, when the act is actually coming about, nobody is thinking, yes, it's finally happening.
Of course, anybody would think about saying, I don't want to die in the heat of the moment.
But for people to not have any valid foundation to what these allegations are coming, as long as it's not being checked by reality, as long as these individuals aren't actually bringing factual evidence, I think it's just going to be almost a monopoly play for any Democrat.
tim pool
I want to stress too, because we've got a super chat from ex-IFA.
I can't pronounce your name.
The investigators are the Uvalde Police Department, the same ones that let all those kids die.
So, you know, part of me has to go like, sounds probably like foul play or something nefarious.
You know, member of Congress's mistress goes up in flames.
Nothing to see here, folks.
No one has any idea what's really going on.
And I'm going to be honest with you guys.
The House Ethics Committee is investigating, right?
Sure.
I think the public has a right to know everything about this story.
Now, to be fair, I understand the family may say, look, it's a tragic incident.
Considering this was the mistress of a member of Congress who died under suspicious circumstances, I'm sorry.
I think the public has a right to know.
Like, what are the details of this?
adam salinas
If you are going to be voting for someone, the moment that they decide to go public or to carry any type of office or seat, the public is required to know who they're voting for.
Because if they don't, then anyone could just step up to those positions.
If you don't want your life to be put on the spotlight, not only the good things, but even mistress type of things, then don't sign up for that type of job.
tate brown
Yeah, it's kind of the same thing.
It's like, you know, if you have like some skeletons, like, I don't know, you know, some people, it's like, okay, you had like this embezzlement issue or like, hey, I got fired from a job.
I was like high on the job.
One guy, you know, he cheated on his wife and then she burned herself alive.
Like some of these things, you know, would make you a little bit like, maybe you should not run for office.
Maybe stick to like, I don't know, middle management.
unidentified
Right.
adam salinas
There's a difference between I stole a piece of gum and my ex well, you know, I mean, look, I mean, you know, no one's perfect.
phil labonte
There's nothing perfect.
There's nothing approaching that in my history, and even I wouldn't run for office.
tate brown
I have a few speeding tickets.
Oh, man, I missed a water bill from an old rental place and they had to come find me.
I'm not.
tim pool
Yeah, but here's the thing.
Like, MS now is never going to run a story saying, you know, Tate Brown forgot to pay water bill.
They're going to run a story that says like derelict and vagrant how Tate Brown skipped town on his debts.
They're going to like crank it up to 11 and they're going to bring in like the landlord and they're not going to say the number.
There's going to be like, so when he stole that money from you, what did that do to your family?
And the guy starts crying like, we lost everything because of Tate Brown.
tate brown
It's like an anti-Semitic move, like the ADL comes.
Like, he's oppressing landlords.
Get him.
adam salinas
Well, they're going to continue to use that bait because the bait keeps working.
It's the exact same tactic for the past few years.
This whole false narrative on every single story that they bring, they have to add salsa to it.
They have to add an ingredient that fits whatever narrative to attack a certain people or a certain person.
And if it's still working, why change the bait?
tim pool
You know, I got to just stress, I am deeply offended by the word salsa because it just means sauce.
tate brown
Oh, really?
unidentified
Yeah.
adam salinas
Well, I mean, to Hispanics, salsa isn't just sauce.
It's salsa.
tim pool
Yeah, but like the direct translation is sauce.
ian crossland
That's the dances.
unidentified
You're dancing.
carter banks
Yeah, I was going to say, what about a dance?
unidentified
It's hot.
adam salinas
No, I mean, when we think of salsa, we're not just thinking sauce.
We're thinking something that's going to bring this back to life.
tim pool
Any sauce?
unidentified
Not for Hispanics.
tim pool
Like, man.
No.
adam salinas
And you will not hear Mexican or Hispanic be like, Trame la salsa.
You know, go give me mayo.
Like, no, no.
tate brown
This reminds me of like when people from other countries are like, but in my country, like, dinner is like a big deal.
Like, it's like a thing for us.
And I'm like, oh, well, it's just dinner.
ian crossland
Doesn't have to be.
tate brown
We gather together and we like pray and then we like talk.
I'm like, that's just everybody else.
tim pool
No, but this is the annoying thing because it's like a liberal thing.
Like with the talk, they're like, oh, yeah.
These, these, these awful affluent white female.
I love how they added the U to it.
Before it was just affluent white female liberal, but now it's affluent white female urban liberal.
And I'm like, you've done it.
You've completed the acronym.
And they're like, you don't understand.
Black people have to tell their kids not to fight with cops.
It's like, everybody in the city does that.
phil labonte
My kid's white as hell, and I already told him, don't message the cops.
Like, the cops tell you to do something.
unidentified
You listen.
tim pool
You're not going to win a fight with a cop.
Like, even if the cop is dirty, you know he's corrupt and he's wrongfully arresting you.
You're not going to win a fight with a cop.
It's just not going to happen.
carter banks
The whole state on his side.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And but, but not just that.
Like, let's say a cop plants a drug on you or whatever.
Fighting with him just is going to make it look like you are more guilty.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And it's going to help the corrupt cop.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Bro, there's some.
tate brown
I think if you just don't instinctually know that like you probably shouldn't antagonize a guy that has a firearm, then it's like you're cooked.
It's over.
phil labonte
I mean, I get into that kind of conversation regularly on the internet and stuff, like because I'm a big 2A guy.
So it's like, look, you're not going to win a fight with a guy with a gun.
He has to win the fight, right?
Because if you were to knock him out, he has to assume you're going to shoot him and you're going to run off with the gun.
That means someone that just committed a murder is now on the loose in public with a firearm.
He has to win the fight.
And the cop is not going to let you win.
He will shoot you first, and there are more cops coming all the time.
So you just can't fight.
You cannot fight the cops.
You will not win.
tim pool
Let's go to this story from Fox News, straight out of Congress.
Top progressive concedes race.
It's her viral mockery for embarrassing defeat.
Jasmine Crockett lost, and she's accusing the Republicans of cheating somehow.
phil labonte
That's just like knee-jerk reaction.
She didn't think about it.
It just came out that way.
tim pool
I think it's because the worldview of the Democrats is that they only exist to call Republicans evil.
And so there is no narrative thread for which she could pull to say Democrats cheat elections.
adam salinas
I mean, I think it's embarrassing because for someone who jokingly criticized Donald Trump for using that card, she used it now.
We just seen a few moments ago how the amount of Republicans that went into the voting polls were a lot less this time around.
And she's somehow mad at the individuals that didn't vote for her in the first place, Republicans, instead of the Democrats who did not choose to vote for her.
tim pool
Well, the Democrats cheated.
They 100% cheated.
adam salinas
By favoring the other candidates.
tim pool
Stephen Colbert staged a hoax where James Tellarico, listen, I want to stress this.
James Tallarico engaged in a hoax with Stephen Colbert.
Tallerico tweeted out, this is the interview Trump didn't want you to see.
And they framed it as though he was the only candidate and that he was already the primary winner.
Colbert and Tellerico framed the interview on the show as if Trump was trying to make sure that Paxton or Cornyn would get an opportunity to go on Colbert.
That if you're going to have a Democrat, the Republicans should be allowed.
Hold on.
We are not in the general.
So that means Tellerico's opponent who would have been granted equal time was Jasmine Crockett.
The purpose of the hoax was to create the perception in the minds of the people that Tallarico was already the nominee.
And nobody knew who he was.
He had no notoriety.
He was not going to beat Jasmine Crockett, a rising star in the Democratic Party, until this.
And Hollywood Reporter is gloating about it, saying the Colbert bump did it.
That because, and they don't call it a hoax.
They're saying, thanks to the interview that Colbert refused to censor in the face of the FCC, Tallerico wins.
Well, now, the craziest thing is Jasmine Crockett crying like a baby and blaming the Republicans.
Let me play this clip for you guys.
jasmine crockett
Fred has already stated, we encourage each and every one of you to remain resilient.
We cannot allow this type of behavior to be rewarded because so long as they know that they can win, even if it means cheating, then they will continue to do it.
tim pool
Well, is she talking about Democrats there?
Because they're the ones that cheated.
ian crossland
My question, are you going to go to the Bernie Sanders route, Jasmine?
Are you going to now kowtow and just, you know, wipe your tears?
tim pool
No, she's out, bro.
She's fine, she's gone.
ian crossland
Or are you gonna step up like Tulsi Gabbard and acknowledge the Malfeasance there?
Because I mean, sounds like you have a case, an FCC case, for not getting equal time on Colbert.
I mean, the FCC is important.
tim pool
Make sure that all they didn't put it on TV, they put it on YouTube.
ian crossland
Oh my God, that's so funny.
tim pool
It was a hoax, bro.
It is evil, evil stuff.
Evil stuff.
Bro, Tallarico skinned a Christian alive and schlopped his skin over his body and says, Look at me.
I have a risky vote for me.
And the Democratic Party is like, We got to get this guy front and center so he can actually beat, he can trick moderates into voting for him like moderate Christians.
Jasmine Crockett, I think, is a bad person.
I do not trust her.
I think she lies about her accent, all that stuff.
But holy crap, step outside.
Okay, first, let me just say part of me is laughing because of how funny this is to see these scumbags kind of just eating each other alive.
At the same time, I am rightly pissed off that this is how politics in our country is being run.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not naive.
I know that politics has been dirty for a very, very long time, but this is so brazen.
So brazen.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
I love how, like, the Texas Democrats are like, hmm, the reason the state's really slipping away from us is because Hispanic voters are really flipping over to the Republican Party.
Who should we nominate?
Let's nominate like a gay white guy.
That's like the slowest.
phil labonte
Look, Jasmine Crockett's her announcement that she was running again was just like 30 seconds of Donald Trump calling her a low IQ person.
While she spins, yeah, while she spins, like it is right off the bat, it just demonstrated that she is a low IQ person.
You don't run 30 seconds of the president of the United States dogging you out.
tate brown
It's like a humiliation for me.
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unidentified
Right, right, right.
adam salinas
Well, that's that's kind of why some of the individuals that love Jasmine Crockett, I don't know if you guys watched the video, where they are coming, they came out in the news saying that they loved her so much, but they couldn't vote for her because they did not believe she could win.
So, how do you love someone so much, campaign behind them, and do all of this stuff, and yet at the end of the day, switch it up and vote for the polar opposite of her?
tim pool
But she can't win.
And if your worldview is moderate Democrats suck, but Republicans are pure evil demons, you will vote for a sock over a Republican.
So, the attitude they this is the Democrat establishment plan: Tallarico masquerades as a Christian.
He, uh, there's a there's there's viral clips of him where he, he, I mean, some of the most, I'm not even, I'm not a Christian, but holy crap, some of the most shockingly offensive, blasphemous, blasphemous sophistry I've seen.
There's one viral clip where I'm again, assuming it's real, but I think it's from Rogan, where he argues that about Mary.
About Mary, the Immaculate Conception was the angels saying you can abort the baby Jesus right now if you want.
adam salinas
Never, not real, not once did that happen.
I did a video on it earlier today.
phil labonte
Oh, my God.
adam salinas
Luke chapter 1, verse 34.
You find the angel telling her that she will conceive and call that child Jesus.
Later on, she asks the angel, what's going on?
How will this be?
I'm a virgin.
Lets her know how.
Verse 38, she comes out and says, Behold, I am the Lord's servant.
Let your word be to me as you have already spoken it.
Not once does this validate her consenting to give Jesus an opportunity to live.
This was not her consenting to abort him.
tim pool
The framing that Tellerico made in this video, he says the angel went to her and said, Do you want to actually finish carrying this baby?
And she was like, okay, I will.
It's like, see, they asked for consent.
Therefore, the angel was like, you may terminate the son of God.
This dude is evil.
He is an evil man.
Like, I think I actually have the, I don't know if I have the tweet from him.
No, let me pull it up.
James Tellerico engaging in the, let's see.
Yep, I got it right here.
I always got my sources, always got my sources.
Here's Tellerico's tweet himself.
This is the interview Donald Trump didn't want you to see.
His FCC refused to air my interview with Stephen Colbert.
First of all, Trump had nothing to do with it.
The FCC had nothing to do with it.
The FCC never intervened in any capacity.
CBS stated, they told Colbert, if you interview a politician, FCC equal time rules means you will need to have on that person's opponent.
That's it.
Colbert lied, and James Tallerico, the Democrat nominee, lied along with it.
To frame this as Trump is trying to stop me, the nominee, from winning.
And it was funny to find out if you actually pay attention, you're like, hold on there, gosh darn minute.
This was shutting down Jasmine Crockett, not Paxton or Cornyn.
They are lying.
Tellerico is evil.
Okay.
Look, I'll tell you this.
I remember it's like 2018 or whatever.
And my mom calls me and she's like, how come all you ever do is talk about Democrats?
And I said, because they're evil.
I was like, they constantly do duplicitous things.
They're malicious.
They're lying.
And she goes, yeah, but Republicans are bad too.
And I was like, I don't disagree.
Give me something that Democrats have done that I think would, you know, that you think would be bad.
And my mom was like, well, I mean, I don't know.
And I'm like, right.
The problem with the Republican Party is they are sitting on their hands, elitists, who are weak pencil necks who can't get the job done.
They do have their scandals.
There are evil Republicans too.
But the Democratic Party just hits Grand Slam after Grand Slam.
And so when the day-to-day, when we're going through the day-to-day, what do I find?
There are many Republicans that are at odds with the establishment of the Republican Party, and I can stand alongside them.
I can say I'm a fan of Thomas Massey.
I can, you know, there's a handful of, Massey is going to get the direct shout out, but there's a handful of Republicans we've had in the show that we're friends with.
And then we know there's the establishment, bad Republicans, and we call them out.
But it's just sometimes because usually the problem with Republicans is they don't do anything.
It's like the Save Act.
Hey, vote for this thing.
And they're like, well, I don't know.
And so our biggest complaint is they won't do it.
Democrats, on the other hand, do things like this.
Just abject deceit to steal political power.
Bernie Sanders putting out his tweet earlier, where, or I don't know if it was today or yesterday, where he's like, I'm going to charge the billionaires 5%.
And then Jeff Bezos will unfortunately only have $224 billion to survive on.
And you know, Bernie Sanders is lying.
You know for a fact, if you're in politics, Bernie Sanders understands, and so does Elizabeth Warden, exactly why the proposal doesn't make sense.
And for those of you who haven't heard the explanation on a wealth tax or who can't comprehend the function of the wealth tax and why it doesn't work, let me just describe it like this.
For those of us that have been tracking politics and that track economic systems, Bernie Sanders may as well, Bernie Sanders may as well have said he is demanding the government seize the candy cane rainbow bridge from Jeff Bezos that he uses to get to the planet Nebulon.
And you're going, that literally is a fake thing that makes no sense.
But to all the people who are deeply concerned about the Care Bears and they don't know better, it sounds like Jeff Bezos is an evil person.
adam salinas
Well, to common sense individuals, we know it's crazy.
But to individuals that their entire life, their entire mindset is delusion, and that is that they only stick to what their side is saying.
They're not looking or even considering what anybody else is saying.
Anything and everything that comes out of the garbage to them is fine-dining.
It doesn't matter what it is.
It doesn't matter who it's coming from.
As long as they're blue, as long as they think and do whatever they want them to think and do, it's 100% factual.
tim pool
And we got some shade for Republicans and you.
There I said it.
Here's a story from the Gateway Pundit.
Niqab-wearing Muslim woman who voted for Democrats in 2024 becomes North Carolina's GOP state Senate nominee after running unopposed.
You know what?
I'm going to say that right.
I have tremendous respect for this woman.
100%.
The thing that I love about Democrats is their absolute willingness to be merciless, brutal, deceptive.
They will steal power.
They will, like, they are Mr. Burns.
They will steal the lollipop from the baby.
Maybe that's not a good example, but you get the point.
So what do we have here is not a single Republican exists to run in this place for state senator.
And so a Democrat, liberal, Muslim woman says, I'm going to take the spot.
phil labonte
Yep.
tim pool
And we see this.
There was a, do you guys remember when the transgender Satanist anarchist won the primary in New Hampshire, right?
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
Because no one ran.
And, you know, I just, I'm going to stress: I am sick of the right, right?
You get these hoity-toity dudes who whinge on the internet sitting there talking about all the problems, but all they do every day is they sit down at a desk and complain about what's going on in the world and they don't actually run for office.
They complain about it and demand everybody else do it with their freaking beanies and their folded sleeve button ups telling everybody else what to do, but they won't do it themselves.
They've got to cap what they got.
ian crossland
These people thinking they're all hot.
Those people.
phil labonte
No, but I mean, this is an argument that we make regularly on the show.
It's like the Republicans need to exercise power when they're given power by the electorate.
They're not elected just to tell the Democrats to slow down.
They're not elected to say, oh, you know, we don't want to move this fast.
They're elected to actually undo Democrat policies.
And Trump actually has undone Democrat policies.
He stopped the board invasion of the border.
adam salinas
Because for the longest time, their ultimate goal has just been, let's get them into office.
And that's where their plans stop.
That's where their policies end.
If our ultimate goal when running for any type of political office is just to get the position, everyone that voted for you has just gotten set up to fail.
tim pool
This is why Brandon Herrera needs to win.
Things like this.
The Democratic Party for too long.
Look, guys, I don't need a Republican Party that's going to storm in in full tactical gear, smashing their fists on the table, being like, insurrection act wrong and load up the trains.
We're deporting everybody.
I need a Republican Party that says we're actually going to vote on the SAVE Act.
If the Republican Party we had was 80% of this country from Democrat to Republican are in favor of the SAVE Act, we're voting on it.
It's going to pass.
I'd be like, thank you.
I don't need guys with guns and fists and tactical gear to say we're taking over and then running around seizing techniques.
We don't need anything crazy.
We just need a party that literally does their job based on what their constituents are asking for and the Republicans don't.
adam salinas
But at what point do you call for something like that then?
tim pool
Call for the Republicans to do their jobs?
adam salinas
Yeah, or somebody to actually stand up, guns blazing, and actually taking over and doing what needs to be done.
tim pool
The point at which we would ask for 300 guys in tactical armor with rifles is like you're being bombed.
In terms of at what point do we demand Republicans do their job?
It's literally 20 years ago.
It's 10 years ago.
It's right now.
It is vote for Brandon Herrera.
Make sure he wins because the more we can get people like him, you know, Riley Moore, our rep, amazing.
Okay, shout out to Riley Moore in West Virginia because he's a guy you can literally go and talk to.
And I understand it's probably easier in West Virginia, where it's a lot, it's more sparsely populated.
But his district is same size district as any other district.
But he'll talk to you and he actually works for what the people have asked him to do.
And then you've got all of these other, what is it, like Tony Gonzalez votes for gun control?
Okay, Republicans didn't vote for that.
And they don't expect you to vote for that.
So the time is now to, for Republicans, you guys got to run.
Okay.
I'm loving that the Texas Senate primary had so many people.
Wesley Hunt, Ken Paxton, and Cornyn, great.
That being said, I wonder if Paxton would have won cleanly if Wesley Hunt did not run.
So we'll see.
I'm hoping that these other, when these other candidates are removed, it all goes to Paxton.
That being said, the primary was fantastic for the Republicans.
I mean, Crenshaw's gone.
We'll see if Toth does better.
But I mean, this story about Lakeisha Alston, guys, I'm going to say it right now.
I may not like what Democrats do, but damn do I respect it.
Okay.
Because these are the kind of people that show up to your house and say your house belongs to me now.
And the Republicans are the kind of people who go, well, I think Town Hall is going to hear about this, pack up their stuff and leave.
Again, why the other day, with all due respect for the Iran war stuff, I said I love the masculinity of Trump because when Iran says to Trump, we've got enough material for 11 bombs.
And then Trump goes, I'm going to kill you.
Like, as much as I'm not a fan of getting involved in Iran the way we are, I have to just feel some kind of masculine catharsis to Trump saying, I will F you up.
tate brown
Well, what you're getting at is what separates Trump from like every other Republican is that Trump ultimately only responds to power.
That's why he respects people with power.
He disrespects people that don't have power.
This is why like some people get frustrated that he doesn't have like a bromance with like Javier Millay or like have this bromance with Victor Orban.
It's like, because he likes them.
He's like, he likes their policies or whatever.
But who cares what Hungary has to say?
Who cares what Argentina has to say?
He only responds to power.
This is why he respects Xi Jinping.
This is why he respects Vladimir Putin.
He'll respect a strongman.
And that's what separates him from the GOP, where the GOP, beautiful losers, they're going to go and glaze the prime minister of Hungary.
It's like, great.
We can use, it's very useful.
I love Hungary.
I love Orban.
This is great.
We can implement a lot of their policies.
But let's not pretend like this is the most important thing in the world.
The GOP just gets fixated on like my principles.
And, you know, we can get this really fantastic housing act passed.
That's literally what freaking John Thune, out of everything on the docket right now that matters, he prioritized the Housing Act to like help poor people buy it.
Like, does anybody care about that?
unidentified
Right?
tate brown
Like, we're at war with Iran.
You know, the Save Act could literally make or break every election going forward.
I mean, the Trump, the wartime powers, the Democrats were trying to restrict his wartime powers.
All of these pressing issues, DHS funding.
And Jon Thune, he's like, I might get a glossy national review op-ed.
So I think what I should do is I should prioritize getting this housing act right.
You know what I'm saying?
It's just like gay, like gay, pacified Republicans that only care about their ego, that only care about their status, versus Trump, who's like, I just respond to power and I will return the favor.
tim pool
The meme was Republicans care more about the opinion of the New York Times than their own constituents.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
Literally.
phil labonte
They really do.
Well, Republicans have been like that for a long time.
They want the approval of D.C. Like they just are dying for Washington, D.C. to invite them to the parties to make sure that they get a good seat at the correspondence dinner and stuff.
Like those things are important to Republicans.
It's all about they want the status and they don't care about actually doing the things that their constituency wants.
And their constituency hates Washington.
So what they have to do is things like Trump has done.
Go in there and cut things and make changes that are going to be unpopular in D.C.
And people, if you don't, D.C. will continue to consolidate power.
94% of DC voted for Kamala Harris.
That's what you get when you don't actually go in and change the culture and change the bureaucracy in there.
You have to commit cuts.
adam salinas
And I think that the reason he's criticized so much, not just on the left, but we're starting to see that especially with what's going on in Iran now from the right, they're criticizing him not because of what he's doing, but because he actually did something.
So to anybody else that is in the Republican Party or the Democratic Party, they are threatened not by his role, not because, oh, the e-files or whatever, anything like that.
They are threatening, they're threatened by him because he can actually do things.
He is not just going to make you all of these promises and then just, hey, you're paying me to be here.
You guys can go to hell.
You know what I mean?
And as we continue to vote for Republicans or Democrats, stop looking at people and voting for people based off of the color of their skin, their sexual orientation, where they're coming from, if they're from the hood or they're from the higher ups.
Focus on what they've accomplished prior to office, prior to running, because if their report is zero equals zero, those individuals don't need to be running for office and we shouldn't be voting for them.
You know, you need individuals that are going to be able to actually follow through.
And if they're following through in their past objectives and their past courses, then you would expect them to follow through here.
ian crossland
You know, I got a question, and I'd like an honest answer to from you guys: is it better to have someone in power that's deceptive but an idiot or that's deceptive and brilliant?
tate brown
Well, this goes back to like if you speak to like a lot of South Africans, they'll tell you, I'd rather live under incompetent socialists than competent social democrats.
So they say like, actually, when you live in a situation like South Africa, it does enable you to build projects.
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tate brown
It enables you to kind of operate under the government's nose because they're horribly incompetent, even though they're like socialists, versus Europe living somewhere like Germany or Denmark.
A lot of South Africans say that's not favorable.
rather stay here because I don't want to live under all-encompassing competent social democracy because they're going to ensure that you can't even lay an egg before we come and take an inspection of it.
tim pool
Well, if you laid an egg tit, I'd be concerned.
unidentified
Right.
tate brown
I'm not thinking anytime soon I'll lay any eggs, but you laid an eggs and chicken cooperation.
ian crossland
The competency of the Trump admin's ability to deceive, like Trump was no new wars, and now, of course, new war.
I think that it is, you know, it's definitely like, or Jasmine Crockett or this guy, this guy who will deceive Colbert and the world to get power.
unidentified
No, no, no.
ian crossland
He and he deceived the world with Colbert.
What I'm concerned about is like, because of the intelligence of the deceptive power of Trump and his administration, like, are they going to, what we're going to start seeing is deepfakes, like we talked about at the top of the show, and it's going to be deep fakes of Trump flying knee kicking a dog or whatever.
And then are we going to see the Trump admin being like, look, misinformation actually is a big problem right now.
We're at war and we need to start.
And his zealots will be like, yay, Trump said it.
tim pool
I'm going to play this video for you guys.
It's a breaking viral video from CNN.
Shocking news.
Iran war ceasefire, actually.
jake tapper
A new development in the Iran war as Iran has signaled they are prepared to agree to terms of a ceasefire.
After Marco Rubio announced today that the group chats of top Iranian officials had been infiltrated.
Here is President Trump commenting earlier today from the White House.
donald j trump
It's bad news, these group chats.
I mean, no man on earth wants his group chats with the boys' release for everyone to see.
It's locker room talk.
You've heard me say that before.
It's very embarrassing.
And we had the CIA and Mossad infiltrate them months ago.
And let me tell you what's in those group chats.
It's bad.
Of all the bad things the Iranians have done, the killings, the bombings, this is the worst by far.
jake tapper
I'm joined now by CNN senior correspondent Kevin Brown live on the ground in Tel Aviv for more.
Kevin, what more can you tell us about this story?
phil labonte
Literally is Danny Malachuk.
unidentified
Thanks, Jake.
danny polishchuck
The mood here has been tense, to say the least.
However, it's appearing like some kind of resolution is on the horizon.
The endless bombing campaigns from the Iranian regime have been put on pause since this news dropped.
It's a story that is on par with the Israeli pager drama from two years ago, but this time a coordinated effort between the U.S. and Israel.
I'm being told that these group chats had been infiltrated for months, and there was serious internal debate in the White House and Knesset about whether or not to release them as this would seriously violate international bro code and could potentially lead to retaliation against Israeli and American men.
Dubbed Operation Epic Funny, these group chats, I'm told, include texts criticizing the weights of senior Iranian officials' wives, racist, and sexist memes that were not only not denounced but were thoroughly enjoyed, as well as numerous instances of Smash or Pass, where women's photos would be posted in the group chat, and Iranian officials would then comment on whether they would have sex with the women or not.
tim pool
I love how he explains okay, guys.
It's obviously a joke, and he uh, he Danny literally ends the video with, bro, it's so good.
Let me play the end.
danny polishchuck
Is the only way to protect themselves?
jake tapper
That was CNN's Kevin Brown live from Tel Aviv.
After the break, Lindsey Graham will be joining us to explain that the guy he's lived with for 30 years is really just his roommates.
danny polishchuck
Some of you probably somehow thought this was real.
Obviously, it's fake.
tim pool
I'm comediate, bro.
The craziest thing is that this video has gone massively viral.
I think, what does it have?
2 million views since this morning.
But here's the best part: Danny tweeted at Grok, is International Bro code real?
And it said, Yes, International Bro code is 100% real.
That's why hacking the Ayatollah's group chat instantly forces ceasefire talks.
No one wants the receipts dropping on who owes who a beer or skip the last summit.
Bros, before geopolitical blows, what's the juiciest leap?
So, the craziest thing is they had to community note Danny's obvious AI satire about how Iran was more embarrassed about their racist group chat.
So, they were going to ceasefire as opposed to the actual war itself.
Where he literally says, He has Trump say the group chat, all the killing, all the bombing, it doesn't compare to the racist memes.
People actually believe it's real.
And you know, so just before he pulls up, Ian's talking about how AI videos are going to start coming out.
Bro, I want to stress this.
I think everybody flagged it as an AI gag right away, but there are still people who think it's real.
And I got to stress this: I put out a tweet like two days ago or three days ago where I said, Is there even one reason why we shouldn't take over Iran or Canada for that matter or Mexico?
And it's got like 6,000 responses from liberals who are like, You think you can take whatever you wish with me?
They literally can't understand sarcasm.
They can't.
When your IQ is 85, you don't understand the purpose of sarcasm.
So, their brains just go like dial tone.
And I would argue it's many of the same people.
I will pause real quick and say this.
I also think a large, there's a large probability that many of these people are foreigners.
Because my hypothesis on this, the reason why many people have noticed that irony and sarcasm often is, you get a lot of response when people can't get it is because they're translating what you said.
So, in English context, my joke: is there even one?
I put it into caps.
Argument against taking over Iran or Canada or Mexico.
Anybody who's American is going to be like, duh, like he's joking.
We're not going to invade Canada or Mexico.
Now, imagine if you hit translate on that and you speak Farsi or something.
All you see is there is no argument against taking over Iran and Canada and Mexico.
You don't get any of the American context in language.
ian crossland
Or in text.
Often in text, it's lost too.
I think a lot of times what will happen is kind of like if someone's on a battlefield, you know, you're all about sarcasm and joking, but if you see someone waving what looks like a gun at you and you're already in a panic fight or flight state, you can't really take it as a joke.
And some of these people are so wound right now that they don't see jokes anywhere.
tim pool
Or, no, right.
phil labonte
Like a match.
tim pool
Or finish a favorite point.
ian crossland
Oh, yeah.
Well, I think maybe some people will be like, he's being serious, obviously, because everything's so important right now.
tim pool
I think it's that low IQ people can't understand sarcasm.
I think there's a few factors.
I think the foreigner issue is huge.
There's a lot of people who are not Americans who are trying to manipulate American public opinion.
This is normal psyops that's been on social media for decades.
You then have people who genuinely can't understand it.
And they're just like, why would you want to invade Canada?
But then you have liberals who know it's a joke, but prefer it to not be so they can use it to trick stupid people.
ian crossland
They'll be like, look, what do you think?
tim pool
Like Sam Cedar thinks.
Like Sam Cedar is a perfect example of basically like every time he does a video about me, he intentionally lies about the opinions I have.
So a really great example is I was talking about, I think it was the, it might have been like the Minnesota shooting, and I said, the truth doesn't matter in this regard to the right or the left because the right is going to argue the left is evil and wronged us, and the left is going to argue the right is evil and wronged us.
And what Sam does is he takes the quote, the truth doesn't matter, and then stops, and then says, see, Tim Poole's literally trying to tell his audience just to lie and be evil.
He doesn't try to actually convey the information because he's a scumbag.
He's an evil guy.
He just wants to make money.
He doesn't care about politics.
He's old.
He's just like, whatever gets the clicks and makes me the cash.
ian crossland
What do you say?
adam salinas
I think in 2020, it caused a lot of individuals to lose what we're having right now, which is social interactions.
Everything forced people to be on the screen.
Everything forced it to be whether it's a tablet, a phone, or whatever type of screen.
So that has become their focal point.
They do not know social cues.
They cannot have a normal conversation without it, without it being filtered through a text screen in their mind.
They are able to put any emoji in their brain with anything that's written out there.
So it's constantly being filtered through that garbage because of our failed system in 2020 and so on and so forth to where individuals lack the basic human ability to sit across from somebody and have a meaningful conversation without it being filtered through.
tim pool
I have another theory.
I think that, you know, we talked about why Elon Musk bought X.
And a lot of people tried to, they play it up like, oh, it's because Babylon B got banned and then he got offended.
No, it's because he wanted access to what's called the fire hose, the stream of all the tweets from people to use as training data for an AI for Grok.
So everybody's got their data sets.
You know, Google's got a massive data set of all this different stuff from search, from maps, whatever it might be.
And then, you know, of course, you've got, I don't know exactly what OpenAI uses, but they're probably using Google and other things.
phil labonte
OpenAI used, or yeah, OpenAI used like Reddit and they used Wikipedia.
Yeah, Wikipedia means that's part of the reason why they're.
tim pool
And I'm pretty sure they watched YouTube videos too, and Google got mad about it.
Here's my other thought.
Do you guys know what CAPTCHA is?
Remember CAPTCHA?
phil labonte
Yep.
tim pool
CAPTCHA is when you try to log into a site and it says, Are you a robot?
And then you've got to solve a puzzle.
You've seen it before.
So the original reCAPTCHA was text.
You would try logging into a website, it would say, prove you're not a robot.
And then it would show you two words that were all mangled.
And it would say, type these words out.
The truth is, only one of the words was the actual code.
What ReCAPTCHA was doing was using human labor to train AI to read physical text.
unidentified
Really?
tim pool
So the issue is for a camera to identify text, you need a data set.
So what they would do is, here's a list of words we know.
And so they'd show you a picture of, you know, it would be like Shillali.
And it would be like bent because it was scanned from a book.
The computer already knows what that word is, and it's trying to test whether or not you are giving it accurate data, not whether or not you're a robot.
It was actually not about if you're a robot, I mean it's an ancillary benefit.
What it was trying to do is the second word we show you, we can't read, and we want a data set on, we want a trustworthy data set on what that word says.
So basically what they were doing was scanning books.
And if the computer said this word is unidentifiable, you'd log into a website, you'd see this thing asking you for a robot, and then you'd say, oh, it says Shillali doorknob.
It knew Shillali.
It didn't know doorknob.
And the purpose of it was to say, if the first word is correct, they likely put in both correct words.
So 4chan created an operation called re-N-word, but not n-word, the actual word.
And they said to exploit the system, the first word is always the code.
The second word can be anything you want it to be.
So what happened was, and I'm pretty sure this actually was confirmed.
4chan started going to every CAPTCHA and they would put in the first word and the second word they would put the n-word.
And so what ended up happening was in some of these natural language processing sites, the N-word started popping up randomly in places where it shouldn't because the computers were being trained improperly because people were exploiting it.
But they quickly fixed it.
So it may just be an urban legend.
The operation absolutely did happen because I remember it was going viral.
People were like, the argument was that CAPTCHA was, ReCAPTCHA was trying to steal labor from people with this method.
They were tricking people into training AI to read books.
adam salinas
Without them knowing that.
tim pool
Without them knowing and without people getting paid to do it, they were decentralizing the labor.
I believe that X is probably that training algorithm in all the same way.
That is, I would not be surprised if they intentionally have Grok bots tweeting at people, posting at people, trying to generate replies because it trains the AI on these interactions.
Get this.
Why is it then that Elon Musk says your payment is based on the number of replies you get?
Because that encourages people to reply and generate more replies.
So let's say you put up a tweet or an X post and you say, you know, I'm just not a fan of waffles.
And then someone responds with, and you can see a lot of these are bots easily.
Some of them are very obviously bots.
They'll be like, waffles were invented.
And you're like, ignore.
But imagine this.
Grok's AI sees a tweet that says, you know, Donald Trump is doing a decent job, but I'm upset about the war.
It then responds with something that is seemingly nonsensical.
It'll say something like, you know, the war in China, blah, blah, blah.
And then you look at it and you go, what?
What are you talking about?
We're not at war with China.
So you respond with, hey, dumbass, we're not at war with China, correcting the bot.
It then takes that training data and then says, here's where we made a mistake.
And I'm going to back this up once again with another bit of conjecture from this very show where several years ago I pointed out that there is something that I noticed on X where your account will be categorized and attacked by bots based on the perceived alignment that you have, which creates a problem for middle-of-the-road people.
The example being, I was like, because like we're a fairly moderate show, and that means sometimes we're critical of Trump, but largely supportive of him, it's confusing for a bot that's operating under a political alignment binary.
And so what ends up happening is there were numerous instances where I would make a tweet and I would say something like, I just absolutely, you know, Israel is a really great example.
I would say something like, it is absolutely insane that we would be forced into a war because of Israel.
It's about time we cut off, you know, we cut off funding to this country and support for them.
However, because there was a general view, like after I met with Netanyahu or whatever, or because we're typically Israel ambivalent, my account gets categorized in the pro-Israel camp.
So when I criticize Israel, I get blasted by comments that were attacking me for defending Israel.
Literally made a post saying we should stop funding Israel.
And all the replies were like, why should we fund Israel?
You're nuts.
And I said, hey, these aren't real people.
They clearly didn't read the tweet.
It seems like my account is flagged with categories based on some kind of botnet.
And they're responding to the keyword Israel in a post and the presumption my account is pro-Israel, not the substance of that post.
Botnet Responses 00:15:32
tim pool
In which case, responding to them would correct the record.
So I don't respond.
But again, I think this whole system. is being set up so that we can be used as free labor to train the artificial intelligence.
And I believe that is the true reason that Elon bought X.
It's obvious because he launched Grok right away.
He's using X photos and videos for the training data.
It's a great product, to be completely honest.
But I would also imagine it goes further than that.
And we are responding to bot accounts to train it further without realizing it.
ian crossland
I hope he goes transparent.
If you're doing that, Elon, if you want to use, people will opt in so you don't need to trick them or deceive them in that case.
It feels real like you're getting raped if people take and use you against your will.
So don't do that to people unless it's like war and you have no choice.
phil labonte
I think he has said that he used X as a data set.
So I think it's pretty clear.
tim pool
The fact that the Twitter firehouse was training data for AI is not a conspiracy theory.
phil labonte
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I'm saying I believe there is a decent probability that Grok is actually, that there are probably Grok-powered bot accounts responding to all of us.
And when we respond back, correcting them, we are training the AI to be more believable as a human.
adam salinas
So why are people not like trying to file lawsuits against this for human labor?
tim pool
What do you mean?
adam salinas
You're working for something that isn't paying you.
You're unknowingly helping.
tim pool
It's not that you have no idea something like that.
If I make a bridge that's got panels on it, so when you step on a panel, it generates electricity.
You chose to walk on my bridge.
You can't sue me because I generate electricity off your weight.
adam salinas
I think if you're benefiting from someone doing something without knowing that they're benefiting you, I think that would call for grounds for somebody to be like, absolutely nothing.
ian crossland
Yeah, I'm thinking about handing the mail and be like, he dropped this off for me.
And it's like, you make some money because they mail your check, but like can't really ask you for anything because they did it.
tim pool
And again, like, we're not even looking at something like that.
adam salinas
That's different because they're asking you to do that.
tim pool
This would be like.
The door to my restaurant has a generator on it.
Every time you open it, it spins a generator charging a battery.
And I've done the math.
Like, no, you get nothing.
Like, I'm sorry, you can't be like, but I opened the door and he benefited from opening the door.
They're going to be like, what?
Or there are gyms where when you ride on the bikes, it actually spins a generator.
And so there have been a handful of gyms that actually have the, all the bikes when people are riding are putting juice back into the grid.
ian crossland
Did you see the AI video that says that will be the future?
That's what all these people are going to be doing is exercising for electricity.
tim pool
Well, that's a Black Mirror.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
Remember the episode where everyone lives in the CD box?
He rides the bike and to earn points.
tate brown
You get sued for this, like every time you say B-roll in Times Square, you just get like 50 people suing you every single time.
tim pool
Right, exactly.
Let's have a little fun, though, and jump to this story.
We got this from Dexerto, the new video game, Karen.
And it's funny because a lot of people are like, Karen is racist.
I think this is hilarious.
unidentified
Sorry, we're all out of Jack and Hat.
We can only do an extra shredsticks are extra.
Sorry, man.
tim pool
our policy so it's a Karen with the Karen haircut destroying them all Epic Celtic.
adam salinas
Did they get these ideas from Los Angeles?
ian crossland
Oh, it kind of looks like the models.
There's games that have this similar character models.
tim pool
Why does she have superpowers?
ian crossland
Among us, I think.
phil labonte
You're going to get the manager out there.
ian crossland
Is she getting bigger?
unidentified
Is she right?
Yeah.
tim pool
So Karen, the video game.
tate brown
Well, my problem with this is when you think of like, everyone out there just play like a mine game.
Close your eyes and think of someone destroying a shopping mall.
Do you really think of a middle-aged white woman?
unidentified
Is that like what occurs to you?
tim pool
And that's the first response from Kangman Lee.
A bunch of young black men looting a department store.
Now, hold on.
That's just a different video game.
And Tate, I recommend you make it.
tate brown
I know, but no one's ever going to make that.
tim pool
I made a Grok video called Shaniqua because that's the black equivalent of a Karen.
I researched this.
The funny thing is, Wikipedia is like, Shaniqua is a racist term for a low-income rude black woman.
Or they said it's like it's used in racist ways to describe low-income rude black women.
And then Karen, it's like some people criticize Karen as being racist.
And it's like, guys, neither is racist, but they are both racial.
Like when you say Karen, you don't imagine a black woman.
And when you say Shaniqua, you don't imagine a white woman.
And they're both references to people you describe as rude, but they're not meant to represent literally every woman of that race.
So it's a racial joke.
It was always allowed.
And I think Karen should include the option to choose between all sorts of different races.
I would love an Asian, a Kim, who rampages around smashing things up.
ian crossland
Got to skin that.
Skin that bitch is what I was going to say.
But I mean, make skins for the character model.
tate brown
Well, this is me and Amber Duke's thesis.
This is why we came under so much ire for defending Karen's.
But our proposal is like, okay, yeah, it is annoying, right?
Karen, you know, when you think of the Karen Phoenix, there is an annoying person.
But the problem is it's like safe edgy, where a lot of people just outsource every problem in like American public life to Karens.
And if you're really being honest, how far up the ladder are, again, middle-aged white moms like an impediment to the functionality of American social life?
Like, is that really think about who's disrupting the retail scene?
tim pool
Is it again brother?
unidentified
Awful.
tim pool
Okay?
tate brown
Even then.
tim pool
Karens fall in this camp.
They are, they are the there's the meme that I'd love to bring up where the man builds a fence around his house to protect his wife from wolves.
And one day while the wife is out working, the wolf whispers, your husband built this fence to imprison you, tear down these walls and find freedom.
So she does, and the wolf eats her.
The point is, Karen represents to me the uppity, pretentious, white, affluent female that has been so removed from the dangers of the real world that she just demands whatever she wants.
tate brown
I would agree if that was the like the working definition everyone has, but people just use Karen to like describe, again, like a white woman that just expects like basic standards like when she's out in public.
And like the thing is, Karen's.
adam salinas
Basic standards?
tate brown
Oh, yeah, like I said.
adam salinas
I think it's delusional.
tate brown
No, Because a lot of these retailers, dude, the state of retail workers in 2026 is like horrible.
Like it's legitimately, like you go to like a Wendy's, they're like in their pajamas, they're blasting music.
Like the order is always wrong.
They forget your straw all the time.
I mean, that's like the basic level.
So it's like, and then if, and if it's fine if I like got mad, but again, if like Amber Duke got mad, and I hate to sound like a lip tard, but it's like if Amber Duke got mad, look, that's, can you believe that Karen?
tim pool
No, I like it.
I like it.
I like the fact that you go to a fast food restaurant and you can't, and everyone's all nasty.
And the world shouldn't be candy canes and rainbows and marshmallows and I think people have become accustomed to luxury.
ian crossland
And like, why if your plane's seven hours late, you're still getting to ride in an airplane, bro.
tim pool
We need, we need bears running around.
Just like, we got to breed grizzlies and just let them loose in our major cities and be like, it might be you, you know, danger exists.
tate brown
I'm just using Wendy's as like the DMV is miserable.
The TSA, the TSA treatment.
tim pool
It's government, bro.
tate brown
I know.
I'm saying it's at every level.
Every time you have to deal with like someone that has to perform a task for you, they're like an idiot.
And this is like a fairly, this is a fairly recent thing.
Even at like top level, even like Trader Joe's, I used to respect Trader Joe's employees.
And like, since COVID, it's just gotten horrible.
No one cares about their job.
ian crossland
It makes them across the board.
tate brown
No one cares about their job.
ian crossland
What makes them Karen is they can't control their temper.
tate brown
No, it's just they expect like basic standards.
And when Karen's, by extension, and when they're out of the way, it's going to be a total free-for-all.
tim pool
Karen is meant to represent an entitled woman.
tate brown
I think some people should be a little bit more entitled.
Sure, but the point is people can't advocate for themselves.
tim pool
When you see a video that someone's accused of being a Karen, there are certainly some that are wrong where it's like she's falsely accused.
But the general idea is like a woman comes in and she goes, why is there mayonnaise on my burger?
And they're like, I'm really sorry about that.
I already make it.
No, this is ridiculous.
I want free.
That's the Karen trope.
tate brown
Yeah, I agree.
Like those are, I'm just saying it's expanded now to like any white person that gets like upset that they're being mistreated.
ian crossland
That I don't like because I'll see sometimes women will get harassed in a park by a dude throwing food at her dog and then they get her reaction.
tim pool
Well, that was the story.
ian crossland
That's one of the things.
tim pool
The story was there was a black guy in Central Park that was trying to feed a woman's dog and she started screaming and she definitely overreacted and the media like they just went, white women, bad black men, just completely different than a girl walking into a Wendy's and being like you forgot my pickles.
tate brown
But then to my point also.
It's like when you think about again a shopping mall and you think about people freaking out in public, is it Karen's the primary person you think of or is it like the video Kangman Lee posted?
unidentified
No, that's.
tim pool
That's why I'm saying we gotta make a typical Karen, we gotta make our own game.
adam salinas
It's like having a long line at a store.
A Karen is not the person that just got cut in line, that's been waiting there for 15 minutes.
A Karen is the one that just showed up and starts yelling why nobody's attending to her, because she showed up and you're, you're you doing?
What you're doing is an inconvenience to her, because she has this expectation that she hasn't informed you about.
But she expects you to be informed and every time an expectation is set over you that does not appease to them, you get a Karen.
tim pool
Guys, I want to put, I want to, I want to add this video to the mix on this story, and I hate Instagram because they always mute it and you can't play it right from the beginning but I want to play this short like that too.
I'm going to play this video.
Listen to this.
anya shakh
Where men and women were hooked up to brain scanners as they watched people play a game, they got to see whether the people playing the game were playing fairly or whether they were cheating at the game.
And the people playing were connected to electric shock machines, so electric shocks would go into these people as they were playing and they would measure the brains of the men and women watching.
So every time a player that was playing fairly got an electric shock, both men and women's empathy centers lit up.
Whenever an electric shock would go into a person that was cheating, women's empathy centers lit up, just the same as with the fair playing person, but men's empathy centers did not light up at all.
Actually, their pleasure center lit up super key psychological distinction between men and women.
tim pool
Wow and uh that that.
That's a very interesting take.
That, I think, plays into this very much so in that, according to this study, men Men feel pleasure when evildoers are punished.
Women feel empathy when evildoers are punished.
Hence, what's that woman's name who's talked about the feminization of Helen Andrews?
And this is basically her hypothesis played out macro-level politics.
When you get to the point where any significant percentage of judges and DAs are female, they are going to empathize with the evildoers.
The idea that an evildoer, so a man is going to say, you are a murderer and a rapist.
I think you should be beaten.
That gives me pleasure and joy.
And all the guys are saying, like, we derive pleasure from the suffering of this evil man.
And the women go, but it's so mean.
adam salinas
Well, not Democrat men.
Democrat, they see it, I think, in the same way.
tim pool
Indeed.
unidentified
Indeed.
tim pool
So it's basically a low testosterone phenomenon, I'd imagine.
And I mean that literally.
unidentified
Yeah, literally.
tate brown
Because it's like, all this is really happening is these are, again, these are natural impulses that women have always had.
It's just when you implement them in a liberal democracy, that's when it becomes this.
That's when you get parents because policing behavior, women have police behavior.
That's called being a mother.
That's like a natural instinct for them to have.
And policing behavior is actually very useful in AFP.
tim pool
No, they don't.
They don't police behavior.
The point is that the men are the ones who are going to go to the child and they're going to say no, and they're going to whap on the back side of the head.
And then the mom goes, oh, baby, come here.
I'll give you a kiss.
tate brown
Yeah, but women, okay, but like the maternal instinct is a form of policing behavior.
That's how women do.
Often men wouldn't even be in charge of parenting.
They would leave the wife at home while they're out doing their thing.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
And mom is the safe place where, you know.
ian crossland
Not motherfuckers.
tate brown
I think mothers.
ian crossland
I mean, I thought women were the pants in that house.
My dad was.
tate brown
I didn't talk about wearing pants.
tim pool
Again, let's not be willfully obtuse.
I am not suggesting that every single mother everywhere all the time is letting their kids run rampant.
I'm saying women have a tendency towards this as per the studies, and men have a tendency in the other direction.
I also think it's fair to say if you could measure love, I think it is 100% true.
Women's love for their children would shatter the charts compared to men.
Men love their children, 100% think so.
But I believe that the emotion that women have towards their kids is substantially stronger than the way men feel about their kids.
unidentified
How so?
How so?
tim pool
I believe that through evolutionary biology and psychology, women are effectively one with the baby for a long period of time in a way that men are not.
So men do love their kids.
Don't get me wrong.
And it's a strong and powerful love.
Men will throw themselves into a fire to save their kids and all that stuff.
But I believe that women just have a stronger emotional drive towards their kids.
adam salinas
So the emotional drive to throw yourself in front of the train to save your kid is outweighed by her emotional connection because she was with the child.
tim pool
Let's put it like this.
Let's call it Fahrenheit.
A man's love for his kids is 100 degrees Fahrenheit.
A woman's is 120.
ian crossland
I've noticed females will get ill, physically sick, if they empathize with their child's feeling bad.
They'll start to feel bad.
Bro, there's a lot of different types of love.
I think the women feel more types of love towards their children.
tim pool
I'm going to say this too.
For anybody who's walked down the street with their wife and their kids, certainly something I've only experienced in this past year, babies are celebrities to women.
phil labonte
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
And I've explained this for a while about how cat calling is a phenomenon that affects both men and women of high status.
The question is, what makes a woman high status?
Well, unfortunately for the feminists, it is sexual attractiveness, which means a woman who is sexually attractive has high social market value.
Guys are going to holler at her.
For a guy, it's notability, notoriety.
Now, you could be ultra-wealthy.
So, guess what?
Guys that drive around in super fancy cars, what do you see?
People go up to him and they go, yo, like, what's up?
And guys walk around with crazy chains.
People always want to look at him.
Or how about this?
There's a dude who did a stunt where he went to Times Square and he walked out of a building and hired his friends or hired, but had his friends paparazzi him.
And so they all swim around and start taking pictures.
And he puts his hands up and he's going like this and he's wearing a jacket.
And then he has a fake bodyguard go like this.
Crowds swarmed around because they just wanted to see who it was.
So my point is: like, women, for the most part, are getting cat called by guys because a woman will just be attractive and that's high social value.
But most guys don't experience any kind of cat calling because they don't outwardly express any kind of high social status.
I think celebrity guys do.
adam salinas
The society that we're living in has almost indoctrinated men to the point of if they show any type of love.
No, that's not what men do.
tim pool
So to the point.
adam salinas
So life around the edges and all this other stuff.
Women And Babies 00:14:50
tim pool
So to the point I'm trying to make is walking down the street with a baby.
And I'm curious what you've experienced filling this one.
I think I've seen one.
Actually, no, not a single guy has ever of any age stopped and said, I got to see your baby.
Women, every single woman, 100%.
adam salinas
You just did something right now, which I don't think you realize.
You went, hey, let me see the baby.
Because we automatically tie men loving children or showing empathy or emotion towards kids as being gay or as being homosexual.
There's a femininity to them if men should be.
tim pool
Which is not material to the point that I'm making.
ian crossland
Here, let me tell you.
tim pool
The point is, not a single guy has ever said, oh, what a beautiful child.
Can I take a look?
Not one guy.
I'm in an elevator and an old lady leans back trying to look into the baby carriage.
We're sitting down at a restaurant and the women walk by and they go, Can I take a look at your baby?
That's my point.
Women love babies substantially more than men do.
Men, of course, love their kids.
I'm not saying they don't.
I'm just saying I think it's evolutionary psychology and biology, and it should be patently obvious to every guy that guys like going out and fighting bears.
You know, I mean that somewhat figuratively.
Women like having babies.
It's fascinating the amount of social propaganda you needed to convince women not to have babies.
And then it's funny because I see these videos online on Instagram all the time, and it's like these music is playing and it's the woman with her baby.
There was one earlier where it was a woman who said she always wanted a nose job and now she's glad she never got it because her nose fits perfectly with her baby's forehead and she liked she like put her head to her baby's forehead.
I'm like, yeah, guys don't make videos like that.
tate brown
Yeah.
tim pool
Guys don't feel that way.
ian crossland
So obsessive.
I think it's a type of love called mania and it's one of the Greeks having spoken.
tim pool
Women are manic.
ian crossland
They're manic for their babies.
It means obsessive love and their women do have obsessive love for their babies.
Men don't.
My love would be formed as agape, love of the community, where if I see your kid, I'll be like, hey, kid, and then I immediately look around the room to make sure we're all safe because I love that kid and I want it to survive.
tate brown
I don't even notice like Tim's baby half the time.
Oh, oh, hi, how are you?
tim pool
Oh, it's here.
tate brown
And I didn't grow up around like, like, I was always the like youngest.
I didn't really grow up around babies either.
So I like speak to them like adults.
I'm like, hello, how are you?
tim pool
Men and women are different.
There's nothing wrong with it.
Right.
So again, to the point that I'm making, like, the point that I'm making is that babies get cat called because my women.
I'm not even playing.
unidentified
That's true.
tim pool
And it's funny too, because my wife gets concerned because she's like, I don't want strangers touching my babies.
phil labonte
The exact same way.
tim pool
Isn't it crazy how women walk up and go, can I touch your baby?
And it's like, no.
phil labonte
No, I don't know.
tim pool
Could you imagine?
Imagine this.
A guy walking from a woman, like, can I touch you?
Can I touch your shoulder?
No, don't touch me.
ian crossland
Yeah, and if they got weird perfumes on, you don't want your baby breathing.
adam salinas
So how would you feel in comparison to a girl approaching your child and if a man approached it in the same way?
tim pool
I don't like either a man or a woman.
adam salinas
Hypothetically, if more women are coming and they're being catcalled to your kid, if that same reaction was a man doing it, how would you take that?
tim pool
Okay, so like, again, the same because both are bad.
So when a woman walks up and tries to touch, or in other words, like can I see the baby?
Yeah, no, you can't.
And a guy doing the same thing, it's there are, there are ways that it can happen where we don't freak out, right?
We're sitting at a restaurant and, you know, she's in a high chair, and then there's an old guy, and he looks over and he smiles and he waves, and then we laugh.
And that's about it.
There are instances where women will walk by and they'll look and say, Oh, your baby is so cute, and that's fine.
But a woman being like, Can I touch or hold your baby?
It's, no, we can't.
Sorry.
And a man or woman doing it is going to be a no.
What are you doing?
Stop.
unidentified
Okay.
adam salinas
So I think that is where the bias comes in.
I do not believe that men are incapable or incapable of sharing that type of emotion to a child than women are.
Or that women somehow show more, are able to show more emotion towards children.
tim pool
But it's a fact that they do.
adam salinas
I disagree.
I think that every time that men have tried to show that, it's been brought back to this mold that no, no, this is what so you're arguing the blank slate of baby love.
No, not the blank slate.
It's a slate that I've lived.
tim pool
But your argument is that men and women are equal in this endeavor, but men are socially conditioned.
I agree.
I believe that.
No, no, I'm not saying that.
That is your argument, because I don't agree with it.
I think men, like Tate's point, is that he doesn't even notice the babies are here.
That is not true for women.
Like, women seek out babies.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
Women, like, they lactate when a baby cries.
tim pool
Yeah, this is true.
Like, so because random guys don't know.
adam salinas
Because they lactate, that makes them more.
tate brown
Because like they're inside because they're designed.
tim pool
Hormones are released in a woman's body if she hears a baby cry.
unidentified
Right.
adam salinas
Oh, that I'm not arguing.
tate brown
Yeah, that means they're like engineered to like be with breastfeed.
tim pool
So a man will not have a hormonal reaction to a crying baby.
A woman, a woman will.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
That is an emotional action.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
Women feel stronger emotions for babies.
It's a scientific fact.
adam salinas
So if men began to feel stronger emotions, would men begin to lactate?
unidentified
What?
tate brown
No, we don't.
adam salinas
So what I'm trying to say is you're setting up a woman and a man to something that they cannot do, even if they wanted to show that amount of emotion.
Does that make sense?
tim pool
No, it doesn't.
The point is this.
unidentified
What I'm trying to say is.
adam salinas
If you're a man and a woman in a room and a baby touch, one of them can physically lactate.
tim pool
Men, if you give them the right hormones.
The point is, if you take a random man and a random woman and you put them in rooms and a baby in the other room, they can't see starts crying, women who are mothers will begin lactating and the men will probably just get annoyed.
ian crossland
It's true, though.
You guys are not.
adam salinas
Like I said, I'm the what?
ian crossland
I'd say real calm and meditate when the kids are crying.
It's like, you got this.
unidentified
I understand.
ian crossland
Gravity's a pain.
adam salinas
Go pick them up.
ian crossland
Yeah, empathy is what you got, but I'm not going to lactate for you, kid.
Just don't care that much.
I don't know.
I'm with, I fully believe.
Do you disagree that women have like a more all-encompassing because there are the Greeks have split love into eight different categories?
You know, there's erotic love, which I don't think any parent feels, but like familial love, both parents can feel that.
There is the obsessive love, which I mentioned earlier, mania, which women seem to have for babies that men do not.
I don't know men that are manic for children.
unidentified
Do you?
ian crossland
Get manic for babies their own or anything like that?
adam salinas
Manic, manic?
unidentified
No.
ian crossland
I don't, I don't, that's why that females.
tim pool
Bro, women, women have, have like baby crazy.
It is a known thing that at a certain age, women experience a baby crazy that men do not.
Women have deeply stronger emotions about babies than men do.
This is just the literature across the board and common sense, like you experience it.
tate brown
Yeah, I mean, like, I mean, the obvious example, obviously, like, following a divorce is different, but out of wedlock, like 98% of children end up with the mother because the human beings are not aware of the money.
tim pool
And gender roles and social bias are derivative of the human experience.
The reason why women typically weren't in the workplace is because the structure of human society, when humans were nomadic and in small villages, the men would go out and do dangerous things and the women would be protected because if the women die, you can't have any babies.
If the men die, you only need one guy and you can have more babies, right?
And so women can do what men can do, but typically don't need to.
Men can't do what women do and need to protect the women.
After a thousand years, women stay home, men go work.
They go to the office, women don't.
And then what happens is once you get to a point in society where you have a massive population explosion, which happens around the Industrial Revolution, the expansion of oil products and oil is energy, you have such a massive explosion of population that the stressors of population decline no longer factor in.
Now you've got women who aren't feeling social pressures to get married and have kids.
And this slowly starts shifting to an ever-increasing group of spinsters as a demographic, which results in the suffragettes, a large group of women, not all of them unmarried, but many of them.
And then they're demanding rights to function in society without a husband.
At a certain point, you concede, we got a lot of people that need to be able to live that don't have husbands.
Then you end up with the 70s when all the women go in the workplace.
Women in the workplace correlates like 100% with less babies.
And so, long story short, the social structure is built around like why is that courts favor women getting the babies?
First and foremost, it is fascinating to me how we as society don't know this.
This is a failure on the generations before the millennials to inform the millennials of this.
I'm sorry, I think it's true.
Our schools did not adequately inform in sex ed the function of a mother for the baby.
Like, for instance, mentioning that women lactate if they hear a baby cry.
Not all women, but women who have babies will like a new mother or a woman who's breastfeeding will hear a baby cry and she starts lactating.
Like it's just, it's a response.
Or the fact that the saliva of the baby changes the chemical composition of the milk produced by the mother.
These are things that schools should have taught.
And the reason why now I think you have such this big burst in surrogacy and claims that two gay men can have a baby is because people are not adequately informed as to the requirements a human baby needs.
They need mother's milk.
So they get their antibodies from it and they get perfectly formulated vitamin protein shake.
So you, so formula is fake.
And because people didn't, like, I got to be honest, I didn't know about the saliva thing until I had a kid.
I'm almost 40.
That's crazy to me.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
That's crazy.
I still know this.
They don't, they don't think about it.
And most women don't get taught this stuff either.
tate brown
Yeah, I mean, and that's all so vile.
That's why I get so fired up about, and I'm not saying you are making this argument, but the arguments people make that men and women are interchangeable in any way.
It's like quite literally, I can't think of a single instance in which men and women would be interchangeable.
phil labonte
It's totally ridiculous.
The whole blank slate thing is just garbage.
We should throw it in the dustbin history.
The idea that men and women are interchangeable or that people are exclusively a product of their environment.
If you put anyone else in the same circumstance, they would be the exact same.
That's ridiculous.
tim pool
I also think it's fair to say just everybody gets that women are more emotional than guys.
tate brown
Yeah, they have to be.
You got to rationalize with the toddler and negotiate with the toddler.
No, seriously, that's why they are a bit more emotional and irrational is because they have to negotiate with the toddler for years.
ian crossland
And the toddler doesn't have logic yet.
So they can communicate emotionally.
tate brown
Exactly.
That's why men get so frustrated with children.
That's why men typically speak to children like adults, but then women do baby talk.
It's like because that's instinctually negotiated.
tim pool
Baby talk will make your baby have a speech impediment.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
That is true, but as far as like, you know, being able to communicate tonally.
ian crossland
Yeah, that tonal communication.
tate brown
As far as we know, I've seen throughout antiquity that people did baby talk forever.
adam salinas
So keep talking to the month-year-old like if he's a three-year-old man.
tate brown
Fathers should do that.
I think the father should.
tim pool
Well, the way it used to be for most of human history is that the baby for like the first year or so is just basically hanging out with mom.
At a certain point, the baby is like the male children are around the dads watching dad, you know, hit a hammer and like, you know, smelt or whatever it is he was doing, chopping wood.
And the girls were hanging out with mom, watching mom churn butter or whatever it is she was doing.
And they were the children weren't.
Here's my thing.
My rule is no kids programming.
This is an invention of the last hundred years and it's mind-warping psychopathic garbage.
Children throughout history did not have children's programming.
They didn't have goofy looking horses dancing around singing hot dog songs with mice, creepy ass, whatever it is.
And so what's happening now is we are raising our generations under the assumption that I got to be honest, guys.
Just seriously answer me this.
What is the logic behind sticking a child in front of a bunch of DMT tripping anthropomorphized animals singing random nonsense like the hot dog song?
phil labonte
Ian?
ian crossland
It's better than them going out till 1 a.m. with their friends and drinking?
unidentified
What?
ian crossland
I mean, you're talking about too much eye races.
Like, why do you want your kids at home vegging out?
Because you don't want them out causing trouble.
I'm not a two-year-old, so it's what else are they going to be doing?
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
Bro, 15-year-olds aren't watching Mickey Mousing the Hot Dogs.
ian crossland
I hope not.
There's a lot of garbage on the internet, but I play video games.
tim pool
I'm concerned my two-year-old's going to go hit the bar.
You might put on Mickey Mouse.
tate brown
If my two-year-old won't go down for a nap, he's hung over for their clubbing tonight.
ian crossland
What's the value of letting my mom letting her four-year-old veg on the Atari, you know, day in, day out dating?
It turned out to be I didn't go out drinking.
tim pool
Your kid watched some BBC Nature documentary where What's his Attenborough guy goes, the frog jumps from the hens in the woods.
ian crossland
I was less concerned about what it is, is more concerned about what, like what is not going to happen because this is happening.
There are better things to watch for sure, but it's good to have your kid at home.
tim pool
No, Wait, wait, what?
Your two-year-old's not leaving.
We talk about it.
ian crossland
But you want to establish a safe environment that they can enjoy.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And the point is, there is literally no logical reason whatsoever to have your kid watch psychobabble garbage.
ian crossland
I agree.
tim pool
Yeah, right.
You'd be better off putting an AI thunderstorm video that can stare at the screen.
And that's bad too.
ian crossland
Just a Celtic music.
tate brown
Yeah, my dad taught me.
tim pool
Bro, just put on music videos.
Just put on visualizers and play some 3D blocks.
ian crossland
Have them build things.
tate brown
My dad taught NASCAR so I could learn the numbers.
It worked.
ian crossland
We were fake money and let them count and learn about economics and stuff.
tate brown
I just couldn't count above 100, though.
tim pool
I told my wife, the best thing is when we teach our daughter how to play poker because it's basically about learning about math and values and blackjack as well.
So we're going to play blackjack.
ian crossland
Yeah, first grade is when I got my first fake cardboard cutout money, and I could learn like a dime is worth this.
That was like at age five or six.
Do that.
Get the economy stuff out of the way early.
tim pool
There's not going to be physical money, bro.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
ian crossland
Teach them about history.
In history class, you can teach them about cash.
tim pool
Yeah, I'm like, none of these weird kid songs.
And, you know, my attitude is you want to teach your child what it means to be a functioning adult with values, right?
Do you today, as an adult, find value in the green grass grows all around?
No, but you have fond memories of being a little kid and singing that song?
Maybe, but it never comes up.
I will tell you this: I can sing Bohemian Rhapsody.
So my point is: what creates social connections and is better, play classic music for your kid.
Don't like, cut out the vulgar stuff, but you know, sound of silence.
Come on.
And then your kid will grow up knowing all of these classic songs and have some actual connection to your culture and your history.
phil labonte
This is a true story.
The first song that my kid ever heard was Hammer Smashed Face by Cannibal Corps.
Not kidding around, driving home.
Put that in.
tim pool
Mine was Bizarre Love Triangle.
ian crossland
I don't know that one.
tim pool
What you call it?
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phil labonte
Metric?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
Hades.
ian crossland
Hades.
tim pool
Blue Monday.
You know?
ian crossland
No.
carter banks
I remember asking the question.
tim pool
The chat's going to go off and be like, how did you forget the name?
tate brown
Blue Monday, New Order.
tim pool
Yeah, New Order.
Yeah, New Order.
Bizarre Love Triangle.
Every time I think of you, I feel a shot right through with a bolt of blue.
adam salinas
Take out the guitar, man.
tim pool
Well, so we have a super chat goal before we go to super chats.
And I suspected that when I made this goal, it was never going to complete, which was kind of the point.
Because normally when I put Phil Will Scream, people start super chatting, like, let's go.
We only have 14 out of 50 because I put Ian will sing.
unidentified
Oh.
carter banks
Last time, though, this happened.
phil labonte
How many was it last time, though?
I think it was only 20, wasn't it?
tim pool
No, it was 50.
phil labonte
Was it 50?
carter banks
I'm not sure, yeah, but I announced it like halfway through, so I think people started thinking about it and contributing to Ian's singing.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
Get those $5 super chats rolling in right now.
Five or more.
tim pool
Wait, wait.
I figured it out.
Can I edit it?
unidentified
Yes.
No.
tim pool
I should put, if we give us 50 super chats or else Ian will sing.
ian crossland
That might work on the frame.
tim pool
No, I don't think you can.
I think you can just do the one.
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The legend Dano says the donors will absolutely write those checks.
Remember how Newsom said he was going to raise minimum wage for food workers?
Yet somehow, if you make bread like how Panera bread does, they are exempt.
Yep, that was funny.
unidentified
I don't know.
phil labonte
I'm not convinced.
tim pool
Alex Stein's love, I'm sorry, Alex Stein's coffee should have been called love potion number Stein.
That's a good one.
unidentified
Missed opportunity.
tim pool
Also, you've told the story of your friend saying, start a skate park and then we'll help.
Your friends are here.
Keep fighting.
Yeah, the story that I talk about is how back in the day in Chicago, I got all my friends and say, hey, if we all put $100 in right now, we could rent a warehouse and have somewhere to skate in the winter.
And the response from all of them was, you do it and then let us know and we'll think about spending money on it.
Building Guilds for Fun 00:09:34
tim pool
And I'm like, okay.
Like, well, we have to build it.
You know, like, what?
I'm supposed to just front all of the money and let you come and skate my park.
phil labonte
The investors invest first.
tim pool
Yeah, right.
You know what I should have said?
I should have said, okay, here's what I'm going to do.
I'm going to open it and all of you are going to be banned from it.
And I'm going to invite everybody else.
phil labonte
That's right.
tate brown
I like it.
tim pool
All right.
unidentified
Let's see.
tim pool
Jarvis says, anyone else find it interesting?
Tim conveniently got sick the weekend.
The new World of Warcraft expansion early releases.
ian crossland
Oh, are you all night?
tim pool
Just kidding, man.
Glad you're feeling better.
Bro, I ain't playing that World of Warcraft garbage.
unidentified
Damn, dude.
tate brown
He was in Tel Aviv consulting with Netanyahu.
Strategy.
ian crossland
Emergency.
tim pool
I'm just going to say.
phil labonte
I just really have 35s.
What are you talking about?
tim pool
I am an OG World of Warcraft from way back in the 2000s.
Vanilla.
60-level cap.
I was a field marshal PvP gear.
unidentified
Damn.
tim pool
Alteric Valley champ.
Rogue was my main, but I had a couple other level 60s.
A priest.
tate brown
And thank you for your service.
tim pool
Man, the game was so incredible back then.
It was really difficult, but it was so much fun because when you were leveling up from 1 to 60 in the OG World of Warcraft, it was moderately difficult.
Like there were tasks to be done, but every step of the way had its regions and it had its people, it had its adventures.
So I had friends who were level 60 when I was level 23.
And I couldn't really do much with them because you don't get the experience of they're running you through a dungeon or whatever, but you could get, could you could, you could get gear.
But so usually they just, we would be in, like, I think we used, what was it, Team Speak?
Or was it, no, we used, what was it?
ian crossland
Skype we used too.
tim pool
What was the other one?
Not Team Speak.
I think we used Team Speak.
ian crossland
IRC?
tim pool
VC?
unidentified
I don't know.
ian crossland
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I know what you're talking about.
There's another one with a V. Yeah, maybe.
tim pool
I don't know.
And so back in the day, there were things called instances.
They were, so you've got the World of Warcraft, this big open world game, and there were missions/slash dungeons with bosses with better gear that you could loot off their bodies.
But once you go in, only you and your party can go in and do it.
And so, depending on how good you are at the game, but basically, you need a party of friends to go and do it.
Only problem, how do you find them?
You'd go into forums, you'd go into chat rooms, you'd ask someone else, like, is there a guild?
It was really difficult, but you had to externally figure out how to find a group of people to play the game with.
Yo, I know people who got married playing that game.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
They met each other.
And so I'm running around and someone runs by and they got a guild name and they'd say, I was like, hey, you don't got a guild.
You want to join Iris?
And I'd be like, done.
And then they send you the invite.
You join.
All of a sudden, you have a group of people and you go, hey, guys, I'm trying to do, you know, Alderman or something.
And they'd be like, let's see if there's anybody available.
No one's going to be on for a little bit.
And then you're like, this is great.
And then you've got a group of new friends you just met.
And so I remember the first time doing a 40-man raid.
40 people.
And it was crazy because you literally had to find 40 people.
So the guild would put out a message on their website saying, guys, Saturday, 7 p.m., 40-man raid, sign up now.
And then you'd start signing up.
And then we'd go and do like AQ on Karaj.
Or I think Zulfrock was a 20-man.
And it was so much fun.
So much fun.
And here's the crazy thing.
After the raid, the boss drops like two pieces of gear for 40 people.
And so you had to roll.
You had to put type slash roll.
And then whoever got the highest number, they'd first be like, okay, who can use leather?
And it's like the druids and the rogues.
And they'd go, okay, only druids and rogues roll.
And then six people roll.
And then they go, okay, this guy wins.
Here's the gear.
And then you're like, well, I guess I'll have to come back and do it again.
So much fun.
And then I played until Wrath of the Lich King.
And, you know, Burning Crusade, I was like, okay, you know, level cap went up and I'll play.
And it was, it was, it was fun to keep playing, but it was losing its spark.
And then Wrath of the Lich King was really good.
And I didn't really play it too much.
I came back for Warlords of Dronor and was fairly disappointed.
And then I played Legion, and I played Legion extensively.
I unlocked Void Elves, went super nuts with it, but I was getting pissed off because at this point, raids were you click a button and it would randomly assign you to a group of people doing a dungeon and then randomly give out a piece of gear to a random person.
It's no more human interaction.
ian crossland
It's one step away from you just inviting my bot to the raid and I'll just sit here while my bot plays for me.
tim pool
Exactly.
What made the game work originally was that you had to work really hard to make friends.
And everybody wanted to be your friend because you had a shared mission.
ian crossland
I used to build guilds for that purpose.
I was all about guilds, dude.
tim pool
You could hate somebody.
You could be like, man, I just hate leftists.
But that wouldn't come up because you'd be like, bro, I need someone.
I've got an, I got, I'm creating a warrior and I want to go do VC and I need some friends who can, you know, join on with me.
And you never really talk about that stuff.
You made real friends.
Hey, where are you from?
I knew a guy's like, I live in Canada.
I'm like, wow, where in Canada?
He's like, oh, I live in Alberta.
ian crossland
I used to go so hard on that.
And then in 2010, YouTube took off.
It was like internet video became my video game.
It became more fun and community building and like challenging than the Warcraft and other online games.
unidentified
Wow.
ian crossland
That's sort of why I transitioned away from, I mean, I still game as much as I can, but dude, stuff like this is like so much more rewarding because you're still solving problems and developing equations and beating the boss, which is Jasmine Crockett or whoever.
tim pool
I'm hoping that this message, like what made the OG World of Warcraft so big, will pursue.
Like there was a server, this is a while ago, that was running what's called like a vanilla version, a classic Warcraft, and it got shut down.
Blizzard, I was going to say Wizards.
Blizzard basically was like, you're stealing RIP, shut it down.
And they were running a private server where you could play the original version of the game because everyone thought the expansion sucked.
So then they were like, okay, we're going to relaunch classic so everybody who likes the original game can play.
And then they just started doing the same thing.
And I'm like, I played it for a little bit and I'm like, no, this is dumb.
This is dumb.
It was fun when I had to go in for the first time into like Team Speak and turn the mic on and be like, hey guys, what's up?
Don't know anybody.
I'm trying to do Ultimate or something.
And they'd be like, yo, what's up?
Where are you from?
And I'd, oh, I'm from here.
You're meeting people.
You're hanging out with people.
That was the only thing that mattered.
That's why it was fun.
You'd be bored in the game.
You'd be like, well, I maxed out all my levels.
I got all the best gear.
And then there'd be people like, yo, bro, I need help.
I'm trying to go get this thing.
Like, let's go.
And it wasn't that the game didn't matter.
It got to a point where you got the best gear, but it was going to hang out with your friends for a menial task, but it was just hanging out with your friends.
That was fun.
ian crossland
I told my buddy yesterday, Bryce, about it, dude.
Is that playing video games?
There's like two types of rewards.
There's what you get in the game, items, experience, and then there's what you develop as a human from playing it.
You can get better at the game, then that seeds into other areas of your life.
And now you're quicker at conversation, or you're more confident in a room because you beat the hell out of that game.
So keep that in mind when playing.
A lot of times, you know, altruism can really, really make you a better person.
tim pool
Let's grab some more.
We got same old man that says, Tim calling the kettle black, aren't you?
With screaming at politics, but you won't run.
I thought it was self-evident that I was being self-deprecating when I complained about beanie-wearing dudes with folded sleeves complaining on the internet, refusing to run for office.
Literally, the point is there are too many podcasters who complain and don't actually run.
But I got to be honest, like, bro, I mean, I'm in West Virginia and Riley Moore is my rep. I'm chilling.
Like, we're good here.
You know, like, he won and he's doing what we want him to do.
So I don't need to run.
phil labonte
You have to move.
tim pool
I have to move somewhere else.
tate brown
You're going to get in a carpet bag now.
ian crossland
The sacrifice Bongino made to set that show down to go serve like he did.
Like, what a loss for that brief period of time.
I still haven't talked to him since he's out, like, he's out of prison.
tim pool
It was a loss the whole time because much I can respect the street-level policing they did, we were hoping that he was going to be more targeting the corruption.
And I guess for whatever reasons, he couldn't or wouldn't do it.
So, you know, everybody wants to, I'm going to say this: everybody wants to attack Dan like crazy.
And I'm like, eh, you can't get mad at someone for not doing you a favor.
You know what I mean?
You can be disappointed and wish that Deputy Bongino was going to do a lot more.
He didn't do it.
Then I say, okay, Bongino keeps rallying the troops, pushing him in the right direction.
I'm not going to hold a grudge against somebody for not doing me a favor.
That's stupid.
adam salinas
What podcaster do you think should step up to that role and possibly?
tim pool
Oh, no, I don't know.
adam salinas
Not at all.
tim pool
No, because the truth is, podcasters are good at being podcasters, and there's value this show brings that would be lost if I ran for office.
unidentified
Right?
tim pool
I mean, millions of views per day gone so that I can represent one small district would be a bad idea.
To go Senate would be only to represent one state.
Well, I'm not going to run for president.
You know what I mean?
So it's like there's not an effective office for nationally hosted shows.
tate brown
And the list of podcasters that shouldn't run for office 10 times longer.
phil labonte
I mean, and also you have to think of like, you know, what seats are they going to be filling?
Like, just because they're a podcaster that you know that you think has good ideas or whatever doesn't mean, or they have charisma or whatever, doesn't mean that they're in a place where you want them to run.
You're asking someone to uproot their life, go to a new place, and then are the people there going to vote for someone that just moved there to, you know, in order to go to Congress?
Most likely.
tate brown
Primary in Dallas has like 80 podcasters running in the same primary because everyone's like, come run for office.
ian crossland
There will be a YouTuber that serves as president at some point, though.
Will it be you?
unidentified
Not me.
tim pool
I don't know about YouTube.
What's the newest?
Magic The Gathering Promo 00:03:45
tim pool
They're doing Warcraft Midnight.
ian crossland
Served on YouTube.
tate brown
I did three.
tim pool
You know the problem?
ian crossland
14 years.
tim pool
You know what the problem with problems with Warcraft, World of Warcraft is, especially?
ian crossland
Please tell me.
I want to talk about it all night, actually.
tim pool
It was just like, first of all, let me just stress: Pandaria was when they nuked World of Warcraft.
That was truly the end of it.
ian crossland
It's the infantilization of that cheap game.
Guys, made it for little kids.
tim pool
So you get Wrath of the Play.
It was right after Wrath of Lich King, right?
Was when they did Mist of Panda.
ian crossland
Right after I quit, too.
I stopped throwing Rath King.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
The intro to Wrath of the Lich King is a cinematic masterpiece.
It like the story sends chills down my spine.
It's tremendous writing.
Blizzard has always had such incredible narrative.
I don't know if you guys, nobody really plays Overwatch anymore, but did you ever see the short film The Last Bastion?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
Oh my God, there's not a single word said in that short film.
And talk about some of the best narrative storytelling.
Wrath of the Lich King's intro was just like, I watched it like, wow.
The story is so incredible.
They basically the way it works is you're watching The Lich King.
He's effectively undead.
He's evil.
And he's raising a bone army.
At the same time, there is the narrative of his father reading a letter to him about how he wishes when he grows up, he'll be a great man.
And he turns into this like plague of evil.
unidentified
So good.
ian crossland
Prince Arthas, he gets overcome with rage, trying to hunt the villain.
He becomes the villain he's trying to destroy, and then he becomes the Lich King itself.
It's this horror story of like rage and how his dad being like, son, may you be a noble ruler.
tim pool
And it shows him raising up like an undead army.
It's so good.
But here's the thing: after that, Mists of Pandaria.
And you know what that is?
It was literally the Kung Fu Panda expansion.
Not a joke.
It was literally an island discovered in Azeroth where there's a bunch of Pandarin.
They are Panda people and they do Kung Fu.
I believe they talk like this.
They talk a recordish.
And I was like, okay, aside from how hilarious that was, it's okay.
Yeah, it removed all of the serious element.
It was always a little bit cartoony compared to like Final Fantasy Online or whatever, but it was still relatively serious and horrifying.
Like, what's her face?
I forget the names.
Who's the elf lady who died?
ian crossland
No, she gets Sylvanus.
Sylvanas women.
tim pool
Yeah, she's like becomes a lich.
ian crossland
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
And so it's like, and now she's condemned that even if she's whether she's good or evil as a lich, she will always go to hell or whatever.
ian crossland
Oh, God, what a story.
tim pool
It's such a great storytelling.
And then they're like, and now there's Kung Fu Panda is at Taka Recordish.
And I was like, okay, I guess I'm not playing this game anymore.
phil labonte
One of the things that I don't like about Magic the Gathering now is they've got all the weird expansions where they've got Star Wars characters, I guess, or something like that.
And they've got Marvel characters.
tim pool
There's a really funny video where a guy's at Walmart and he's like, guys, this is amazing.
They're doing a big promo for Magic the Gathering characters.
It's crazy to see Magic the Gathering IP like at Walmart.
And then the camera turns around.
It's Oreo Cookies, Marvel, with like the Hulk and like Iron Man.
And he's like, look at all these Magic the Gathering characters.
And bro, like, they did Teenage Meat and Ninja Turtles.
They are burning Magic the Gathering to the ground.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
ian crossland
Okay, I heard it's going to be bad.
My friend was like, dude, this is going to be.
tim pool
They're saying it's worse than Spider-Man.
unidentified
Oh, no.
tim pool
Bro.
ian crossland
You got the original TMNC up top.
tim pool
I got the original Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles right there.
The OG, the OG.
It was a parody of Daredevil.
phil labonte
Written in Northampton, Massachusetts.
tim pool
That is the original Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
And in fact, they didn't have different color bandanas.
Star Trek's Greatest Lines 00:10:54
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
Because it's all black and white.
I also have the original Deadpool, which is New Mutants 98.
ian crossland
I got that.
That was like my first time.
tim pool
And I got in a comic.
Additionally, I don't know where, but we have a like 9.5 original Vision Avenger somewhere.
unidentified
I just lost it.
ian crossland
The origin of the first appearance of Vision?
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
ian crossland
Dude, Deadpool is my GM.
I thought he was super cheap when they created it.
tim pool
I want to stress this to all of you listening right now.
What they have taken from us.
I just have to stress that.
ian crossland
They took the fire hose.
unidentified
Bro.
ian crossland
Which was a lot of fun.
tim pool
I want to tell you guys.
ian crossland
I'm not socially on one idea at a time.
tim pool
I want to tell you guys a story about the importance of Star Trek the next generation.
And it always frustrates me when people go like, oh, I hate sci-fi.
And I always tell them, like, ignore the sci-fi.
I don't care.
And replace everything they're saying with real-world conflict.
There's an episode called, I think it's called The Defector, one of the greatest lines in Star Trek.
The Enterprise, so ignore Romulan, ignore Federation, cling on whatever.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
An enemy is fleeing a warship that's shooting at him.
He crosses over into our territory in violation of the treaties we have because it's a ceasefire.
They then bring this guy, and he's a refugee with information dire to the Federation.
And we don't know if we believe him.
The simple version is he says, the Romulans are planning to launch a war against the Federation to violate the ceasefire, and they're doing it from this location.
And I had to tell you to stop this war.
It's going to kill everybody and they shouldn't do it.
And so they go to this planet and they find nothing.
And the admiral who defected is like, I don't understand.
And then all of a sudden, two Romulan warships appear next to the Federation, like in front of, they decloak.
They have cloaking technology.
The Federation does not.
And they get hailed by the captain of the ship.
And he says, you are going to surrender.
Like, we have caught you in the neutral zone territory.
You will surrender as prisoners of war.
And then we will tow your enterprise back to our home planet where we will dissect it and put it on display to inspire Romulans for generations to come.
And then Picard says, that is unacceptable.
And he's like, I will give you 30 seconds to make your decision.
And he goes, I won't need but one.
And he's like, surrender is unacceptable.
Then Tomalok, the other guy, says, think about the men and women that you would lead and sacrifice by your decisions.
And then Picard smirks and says, every man and woman on my vessel would sacrifice their lives if the cause is right.
And then he says, the question is, Tomalock, are you prepared to do the same?
Are you prepared to die today?
And he laughs and says, I'd expect more from you than idle threats.
Picard then goes, and you shall have them, Mr. Wharf.
And then Klingon warships, allies of the Federation, decloak around the Romulans.
And then Tomalok gets all pissed off, realizing he's outgunned.
And he goes, you will not survive our assault.
And then Picard says, and you will not survive ours.
Shall we die together?
And that is one of the most epic lines.
And there's many of them.
And I stress this as much as people are like, Star Trek has done.
I want you to understand the masculinity in a captain of a naval vessel telling the enemy we have outflanked you.
And if you want to mess, if you, I'm going to avoid swearing, but if you decide that you want to fight, we will both die.
Is that what you want?
And I love that.
I love that.
If you think you're going to come at me and my people, I would rather die than let you just take whatever you want.
And I love that.
We don't have enough of that these days.
Because now with the Star Trek garbage that we're getting, it's all this hoity-toity, woke, garbage, feminized trash.
And it's just, it is unacceptable.
For me as a little kid to watch Captain Picard walk up and say, shall we die together?
I was like, wow.
I'm like, that's what it means to be a man.
I would rather lose everything than give you a free shot at taking my people prisoner.
And I'm just like, that is badass.
And now you watch Star Trek and it's ridiculous, woke trash where the women are like, the Federation is colonial and imperialist and engaged in propaganda.
Not even a joke.
That's actually from the latest show.
unidentified
Really?
Yeah.
tim pool
So anyway, I'm going to stress it again.
We need masculine culture.
We need content.
We need narratives.
We need stories for young men to be told what it means to be a man.
And that is why I am so deeply pissed off about Kurt Smintrek and what they have done to this storied and incredible intellectual property.
And I fully understand many of the original series episodes and TNG were very liberal.
Bro, Captain Picard literally says in an episode, diversity is our strength.
That's fine.
As long as there is a masculine military leader saying, prepare for war, we're about to die.
And understanding those threats.
And for that matter, Deep Space Nine, bro.
unidentified
Man.
phil labonte
It's great.
unidentified
Really?
phil labonte
Deep Space Nine is a fighter.
tim pool
Bro, are you nuts?
unidentified
He talks like this.
ian crossland
Why does he fake his talking?
No one speaks like that.
tim pool
Bro, In the Pale Moonlight is probably the greatest television episode of television ever made.
unidentified
Wow.
DS9.
adam salinas
Which episode?
Which episode?
tim pool
In the Pale Moonlight.
ian crossland
What happened was they did Voyager and the girl was the captain.
And it was Jayla.
phil labonte
She did DS9 first, though, wasn't it?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And then so he just talks so weird.
ian crossland
He like speaks what they say.
tim pool
He talks like this.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
Like, why not just talk?
tim pool
I will not allow them to come into my place.
ian crossland
And I think what he did was he mimicked Jean-Luc Picard.
Patrick Stewart's theatrical because he was a Shakespearean actor.
So Picard brought, you know, he brought that to the stage, to the literally the stage of the, of the, of the.
tim pool
I'm going to say for everybody.
ian crossland
So the other guy just kind of took that weird, boisterous, like that.
And it didn't work.
tim pool
I want to stress this to everybody, okay?
Like the challenge with In the Pale Moonlight is understanding the full context of the next generation into Deep Space Nine and where we're at.
But basically, simple version, because we're talking about a 30-year-old show at this point.
Benjamin Sisko is a military leader.
He's a relatively, like, these are liberal people.
They are like traditional 90s liberal types that believe in freedom and equality.
And presented with the Alpha Quadrant is being invaded, and the Federation is losing the war.
And Cisco decides we have to force the Romulans into the war on our side.
And then they say, surely the Dominion, who they're at war with, is we'll attack the Romulans after we're defeated.
Let's find the evidence.
They can't.
He goes to Garrick, a former black ops guy, who's now a tailor, quote unquote, because he's not really, right?
And he's like, how do we get this evidence?
And he's like, let's try.
And then he comes back and says, there isn't any, but we'll fabricate it.
And then Sisko thinks they're going to fabricate evidence to trick the Romulans, but Garrick actually, the whole plan the whole time was to assassinate the Romulans senator, framing the Dominion, a false flag attack to trick the Romulans into going to war with our enemy.
Like, think about what that means for a show that was predicated upon this liberal beauty of like exploring the galaxy and diversity being our strength to outright admit, because the episode is split between Sisko narrating in his personal log the difficulty that he had to come, like the difficult decision in falsifying evidence to try and trick another nation into going to war on your behalf, but recognizing if we don't do this, we will be destroyed.
And that is something that I think conservatives need to understand right now, and they don't.
They don't get it.
So this is like 1998.
You have a show that is explaining there comes a time in war where your principles will be tested.
And if you stand by them, you will die.
Good luck.
ian crossland
How many times?
Oh, I want to hear the rest of that, but how many times a false flag actually saved people's, like saved the country?
tim pool
Probably.
And the point is, they blew up assassinating a Romulan senator to frame the Dominion, and it worked.
And the Romulans enter the war.
ian crossland
Dude, I play a lot of Crusaders.
tim pool
And the Federation wins.
ian crossland
And I love a good fabricated claim.
I mean, you want to take land, get some paperwork filed, make it look like they did something wrong or they don't deserve it, and it's yours.
tim pool
All right, everybody, we're going to go to the uncensored portion of the show.
So smash the like button, share the show with everyone you've ever met in your life.
You can follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast.
Good sir, would you like to shout anything out?
Would you like to shout anything out before we go?
adam salinas
I mean, if you guys don't follow me already, you guys can follow me on TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, and I'm trying to start on my YouTube.
I just activated an X account, so make sure to follow me there at GraceUnfilter92.
And I'm just very grateful to be on here and to hear different sides, different opinions.
And thank you.
Thank you guys so much for having me on.
phil labonte
Thanks, man.
tate brown
Yeah, you can follow me on X and Instagram at Realtate Brown, and I'll be back with you guys tomorrow at noon Eastern for another installation of the Timcast News noon live show.
Ian?
ian crossland
I want to remind you: go to casprew.com, pick up this Alex Stein's booty juice.
tim pool
It's not that.
ian crossland
It's called Big Booty Latina Love Potion.
It's the newest Casper coffee.
It's delicious.
I just had some earlier.
You follow me at Ian Crossland, all on the internet, really.
Go to graphene.movie if you haven't been over there yet.
Check out the trailer for this new documentary I'm working on about graphene and other nanotech.
Pretty badass.
See you later.
phil labonte
I am Phil That Remains on Twix.
The band is all that remains.
We're going on tour this spring.
We're heading out with Born of Osiris and Dead Eyes.
We start in Albany on April 29th.
You can check the band's music out at allthatremainsonline.com to get tickets.
You can check us out on Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora, Spotify, YouTube, and Deezer.
Don't forget the Left Lane is for crime.
carter banks
I'm Carter Banks.
You can follow me over here at Carter Banks.
We didn't meet our goal for Ian to sing tonight, but you can find some of his live sessions at Trash House Records on YouTube.
A lot of good stuff.
We're going to record a song soon.
But anyway, thanks so much for coming out, man.
Really appreciate you to come out and talk with us.
Let's get to the after-show.
tim pool
See you all over at Rumble.com slash Timcast IRL in about 30 seconds.
ian crossland
What is up?
Wrath Of Lich King 00:08:33
tim pool
I think so that people can truly understand what they've taken from us.
I got to play The Wrath of Litch King for those that don't understand this.
phil labonte
Our old drummer played so much World of Warcraft.
He would post up on the bus for like on the days off, and he would literally play from when he gets up until like midnight.
tim pool
Watch this.
unidentified
My son, every forests of Lordaeron whispered the name Arthas.
My child, I watched with pride as you grew into a weapon of righteousness.
has always ruled with wisdom and strength and I know you will show restraint when exercising your great power
but the truest victory my son is stirring the hearts of your people i tell you this for when my days have come to an end shall be king
ian crossland
You know why Arthas went crazy?
He didn't raise with his mom in the house.
tim pool
He wasn't breastfed.
ian crossland
He never saw Arthas' mother.
She never lactated.
tim pool
I wish this one wasn't seven minutes long, but if you guys haven't seen The Last Bastion, it is also Blizzard and one of the just is it a game?
It's from Overwatch.
And Overwatch is dead.
And that's kind of the point.
Like, it's just like watching our culture die.
We gotta reach this apex where we had so much tremendous, awesome shit.
unidentified
Yep.
ian crossland
Well, Fallout is pretty good.
Fallout 76, not bad.
tim pool
Oh, bro, the show's butchering it.
unidentified
Is it really?
tim pool
Oh, dude.
Come on, Vault Tech dropped the bombs.
And then whenever we freaked out and they were like, that's stupid, they went, actually, they didn't.
unidentified
Oh, man.
tim pool
No, let's watch it.
unidentified
I don't care.
tim pool
We're watching this.
adam salinas
This is which one?
tim pool
The Last Bastion from Overwatch.
phil labonte
When was this released?
tim pool
2016, I think.
ian crossland
To get a balloon apart.
phil labonte
It's coming.
unidentified
Are they
phil labonte
giving you feels?
Comparing Feels: Concord Flop 00:02:36
unidentified
I'll compare
tim pool
that with Concord.
You guys know Concord?
They tried releasing a team shooter game or whatever, and it flopped.
And it was like the worst game launch ever.
And it was meant to be like queer, non-binary bullshit.
Give me the fucking war machine that wants to go fucking massacre the people in the city.
And then he chooses nature over the war.
And it's like, man, it's good.
unidentified
I guess.
tim pool
Bro, it's got 26 million, 27 million views nine years ago.
Wow.
And like, I'm just saying, oh, bro, look at.
Oh, my God, dude.
Have you guys, if you've never seen the dragons?
Honor and the Bereft Dragon 00:14:38
adam salinas
I have never watched any of these.
That was amazing.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
This one?
Dude, I don't care.
We're watching it.
Sorry, guys.
We have to watch it.
You guys have to understand.
My point is, over the past like 10 years, our culture has become retarded and gay.
And the things that are being told to children, they are not inspirational.
They don't give you a sense of a grand adventure.
They don't move you.
And that's why you get this stupid bullshit like Relooted, where it's like, we are black people who are mad that our shit was stolen.
So we're going to go rob museums and private collections.
And then you end up with trash like Concorde.
You end up with trash like, again, even to be fair, 10 years ago, you had trash like The Force Awakens.
And you get the last six, seven years of Marvel, which have been so miserably, disastrously bad that they had to bring back Chris Evans and Robert Downey Jr. and Chris Emsworth because they're like, everything we've done since COVID has been shit, has been piles of shit.
And these fucking videos from 10 years ago, and Overwatch is dead now, by the way, but this is fucking masterpiece-level, incredible shit.
ian crossland
This is also Overwatch?
unidentified
Yep.
My family tells of an ancient legend about two great dragon brothers.
The Dragon of the North Wind and the Dragon of the South Wind.
Together, they upheld balance and harmony in the heavens.
ian crossland
These are real Japanese.
All right, I'm legit.
unidentified
Their quarrel turned to rage and their violent struggle darkened the skies.
Until the dragon of the south wind struck down his brother, who fell to earth, shattering the land.
ian crossland
That's the guy that does Hanzo's voice in the game.
tim pool
Don't worry, he only kills robots, because it's for kids.
unidentified
The dragon of the south wind had triumphed, but as time passed and he realized his solitude, the sweetness of victory turned to ash.
adam salinas
And this is seven, eight years ago, right?
unidentified
The bereft dragon threw the world into discord.
And he knew only bitterness and sorrow.
One day, a stranger called up to the dragon and asked, Oh, dragon lord, why are you so distraught?
The dragon told him, Seeking power, I killed my brother.
But without him, I am lost.
The stranger replied, You have inflicted wounds upon yourself.
But now, you must heal.
Walk the earth on two feet as I do.
Find value in humility.
You will find peace.
You are not the first assassin sent to kill me.
And you will not be the last.
Bruh, you are both sick to come to Shimara Castle, the den of your enemies.
This was once my home.
Did your masters not tell you who I want?
I know who you are, Hanzo.
i know you come here every year on the same day you risk so much to honor someone you murdered You know nothing of what happened.
I know you tell yourself that your brother disobeyed the clan.
And that you have to kill him to maintain order.
That it was your duty.
It was my duty and my verdict.
That does not mean that I do not honor him!
You think you honor your brother Genji with incense offerings?
Honor resides in one's actions.
You dare to lecture me about honor?
You are not worthy to stay and stay!
Only a Shimada can control the dragons.
Do it then Kill me.
No.
I will not grant you the death you wish for.
You still have a purpose in this life.
Brother.
No.
Oh.
My brother is dead.
For the first time, he was able to clearly see the world around him.
And he became human.
The stranger revealed himself as his fallen brother.
Reunited, the two set out to rebuild what they had once destroyed.
What have you become?
I have accepted what I am, and I have forgiven you.
Now you must forgive yourself.
The world is changing once again, Hanzo.
And it's time to pick a side.
Your life is not like the stories our father told us.
You were a fool for believing it so.
Perhaps I am a fool to think there is still hope for you.
tim pool
But I do.
unidentified
Think on that, brother.
adam salinas
That was...
That's sick.
tim pool
46 million views nine years ago.
You guys remember when Game of Thrones was on and literally every single person was on Twitter when an episode came out?
The world stopped.
Our culture died in the last 10 years, 100%.
And it's fractured.
Everybody's watching random bullshit.
I think it largely has to do with things like Instagram, TikTok, shorts.
There is no longer the great grand moment where people feel inspiration.
And again, here's another one.
There's a bunch of these.
There's Overwatch Honor and Glory, 26 million.
I think Last Bastion is my favorite.
This one's good too.
But they did all these cinematics back in the day, and we lost something.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Our culture is just, it's fried.
phil labonte
I think we talked about it like when Halo 3 came out, there was all the advertisement leading up to Halo 3.
Like it was a really big deal.
Like just the they played a 30-second commercial in the Super Bowl and people were going wild for it, you know, and that stuff just doesn't happen anymore.
tim pool
46 million views.
And the important thing to understand is that this is an advertisement for the game.
The attacks that they use, they're showcasing like when Hanzo fires the air that splits into a bunch of arrows.
It's one of his special abilities.
They're literally just creating a cinematic to explain the character's attacks and what they're doing.
ian crossland
Yeah, those dragon strikes.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
Those are their specials.
And in the actual game, in the level, in the temple, the arrow is in the ground and the incense and everything is.
So everything from this is in there.
You can see the arrows from the battle.
ian crossland
By the way, in a one-on-one battle, Genji would obliterate Hanzo all day, every day.
Hanzo has no mobility.
Genji's on top of him.
tim pool
Yeah, he's a sniper.
Hanzo's a sniper.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
And Genji can dive on dudes.
tim pool
Genji runs water sniper.
But again, you're talking about range versus close quarters.
But my understanding is that Overwatch died.
So here's the one thing I want to say for World of Warcraft before we go into our callers.
The mistake they made is that I would say after Wrath of the Lich King, because that's when they that was part of the original lore.
The Burning Crusade, Iladan, Arthus were in the original lore going back for a while, adding Pandaria and all this other stupid bullshit.
They should have ended it and created World of Warcraft II.
And the new game would take place in the same continents of Azeroth.
And they literally could have been like, okay, so World of Warcraft II, the cities are going to be a little bit more robust.
Time has passed.
We're going to add some stuff to the story.
We're going to develop a similar but expanded game.
North Rend will still be there.
So you've got three continents.
You're not going to, that'll be in the expansion.
We can outland, we can figure out how that's changed.
The problem is they keep adding new continents.
New world, new realms.
There's hell and heaven and whatever.
It's like just become whackaloon bullshit.
ian crossland
Changed the cataclysm, changed the original map.
Like, why not just make another world?
tim pool
Adding flying to the game ruined it.
ian crossland
Yeah, that's what kept me around.
But also, that was the end.
After that, it was like the game at all after that.
tim pool
You used to build a glitch hop where you could explore parts of the map by figuring out areas you can jump to.
And so there were undeveloped areas of the map originally that you were not supposed to be able to get to, that we would find ways to glitch into.
And then they block all of that stuff out.
All of the fun, all the exploration is gone.
Then they say you can fly now and flying kills every game.
ian crossland
Man, I like exploration in video games.
In Fallout 76, I'll go into other people's bases, so I'll get to see the human creativity on the fly, like on the Met and like, ooh, this is neat.
I'm learning new brain patterns just by being in the presence of their creation.
tim pool
What was that game where you were like Iron Man?
phil labonte
Iron Man?
tim pool
It was like a couple.
ian crossland
There are two games like that.
tim pool
Let me figure out this game.
It failed miserably.
Game where you are armor suits and fly around team.
adam salinas
I think what the sad reality of like what we just watched of those two brothers coming at each other and taking accountability and ultimately trying to find common ground, that whole moral, that whole principle, that whole reality would be completely rejected during the times that we're living in because everything that is being taught about today opposes that idea that at the end of the day, there is accountability and we are brothers.
tim pool
So Anthem's servers shut down January 12th of this year, rendering the game unplayable.
So I played Destiny when it first came out.
Loved it.
And Anthem is your people in exo suits or something.
The problem is when all my friends got it excited, like this looks fun, flying.
Completely ruined the game.
Nobody wanted to do it.
You could go anywhere and do anything.
And a lot of gaming is platforming.
It's exploring.
It's getting to places that are hard to get to.
And travel is a component of this.
There has to be difficulty.
And so they keep trying to make games that have no difficulty and nobody enjoys it.
phil labonte
There was a lot of people that were very against casual players, right?
Like they wanted games that were difficult, but the studios wanted to make games that were easy enough so that way everybody could sit down and everybody could win.
Because if you couldn't finish a game, you didn't feel like you were accomplished and you'd put the game down, you wouldn't keep playing.
And that's not what the studios wanted.
And so the idea of a difficult video game was something that was basically studios became allergic to.
tim pool
They didn't understand guys like status.
Being able to say, I beat Mega Man 1, you go, oh shit, for real?
Bro, I got to be honest.
I think I only know like one dude who beat Mega Man 1.
ian crossland
I beat Mega Man 2 about the difference.
unidentified
Sure.
ian crossland
That's the only one I owned.
tim pool
No.
See, Mega Man 2, it got easier.
Three got easier.
Six was pretty easy.
Mega Man 1 was fucking retarded, difficult.
I mean, I haven't played it since I was a kid, but everyone knows it's notoriously difficult.
There were even games for Super Nintendo that you literally could not beat.
I forgot what game it was.
ian crossland
Battletoads was impossible.
That was Nintendo.
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unidentified
Oh, bro.
tim pool
Teenage Man Controls 1 was so hard.
unidentified
Impossible.
ian crossland
Executed, trying to swim.
You lose your turtle.
Now they call them roguelike games, which is basically if you die, the game's over.
Welcome to normal life in the 1980s and 90s.
unidentified
But look.
adam salinas
So kind of like, I think the game was Night and Goals or something like that.
tim pool
Ghosts and Ghouls.
unidentified
Ghosts and Goals.
tim pool
Oh, bro.
That game's so insanely.
ian crossland
That is super ghouls and goblins.
adam salinas
And just to get to the end and find out you had to do it all over again.
Oh, my goodness.
tim pool
Ghosts and Goblins.
I actually did.
I beat that, though.
unidentified
Really?
tim pool
I beat Ghosts and Globlins when I was a kid.
ian crossland
On the Nintendo.
tim pool
And I beat Trojan.
Yeah, I love that game.
ian crossland
It was awesome.
unidentified
I loved.
tim pool
What I would intentionally do is when the guy throws the bomb at you and it knocks your sword and shield away and then you go kung fu.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I would intentionally do that.
unidentified
Why?
tim pool
It was fun.
ian crossland
Oh, really?
Were you good with it?
adam salinas
Because it was challenging.
unidentified
Yeah.
adam salinas
I'm a bad guy.
tim pool
And then Trojan also had the versus mode, which the guy with the sword.
unidentified
Yeah, dude.
tim pool
But here's the point: video games used to be a challenge where it was difficult to earn status and you felt accomplished by doing it.
Now it's all like I click a button and I'm in a dungeon and I just hit the button and then I win.
Bro, you want to know what the most offended I ever was at a video game?
Marvel versus Capcom Infinity.
unidentified
Why?
adam salinas
So Ultron.
tim pool
Marvel versus Capcom 2 is the greatest fighting game ever made without a doubt.
What does it have?
Like 52 different characters, some insane amount of characters.
And it's actually difficult to do the combos in that fighting game.
And so I'm 13, hanging out at a comic card shop, and they got Marvel's Capcom 2, and everyone's playing it, and you're trying to get good.
And then my friends got on like Dreamcast.
So in Marvel versus Capcom, like the way it works is you can press down and up and you double jump to the higher screen, or you jump and land at the feet of your opponent.
And then you do like light, medium, down, fierce, knock him in the air, then jump up right away, and then do like light, light, mid, fierce.
And he goes, boom, boom, boom, and then slams the guy into the ground.
But you had to figure out the button combinations to be able to do air combos.
And I had a buddy who was just like a Spider-Man master.
It was nuts.
He'd lock you down.
That game required skill to learn.
And when you got good, you were good and everyone knew it.
And then when Marvel's Capcom Infinite came out, I was like, I got to get it.
I got to get it.
And I was really excited because I love that the what you call it, Thanos.
It's Thanos more than the Infinity Stones.
He wants the, what you call it.
phil labonte
Love of the Lady Death.
Was it?
tim pool
Well, that's the comics.
In Marvel's Capcom Infinite, he wants the surge of murderous intent.
I forgot.
I don't want to say it in Japanese from Ryu, which and Akuma.
And so, because it can kill gods.
And I'm like, this is going to be cool.
One button.
The game has one button.
unidentified
Great.
tim pool
All you do is go square, And I was like, can I turn this off?
And I was like, I couldn't.
I was like, I'm not playing this.
This is dumb.
You literally just press, you have a tech button.
ian crossland
It's like old school Nintendo, like pro wrestling.
Did you guys play that on the NES?
tim pool
The R-Man, bro.
adam salinas
Well, I would only play Marvel versus Capcom 2 arcade version.
You know, we'd go to the Pizza Factory where we used to live and we'd just, there'd be a line there.
And me and my brother recall there was this young kid, maybe eight, nine years old, and his favorite character was Mega Man.
And no one could beat this kid.
No one could beat him, him with his three characters.
And we would spend two, three, four, $10 trying to beat him.
And it was amazing.
Anytime that I go to arcade stores or arcade places like Camelot or, you know, I don't know what you guys have out here, that is the only game that I will play.
I don't play any other games.
ian crossland
I got a rule with my friends when we play PvP games now.
You play, if there's a bunch of us, you play two games and then you pass the controller, whether you won or lost.
It's a little communistic, maybe, like we're all equal.
But what would happen is one guy would keep winning, and then everyone else would sit and watch and hope to get their turn eventually to lose to this guy.
So, in order to equitize, we would just kind of like DEI.
More like DEI.
We added some DEI to the equation so everyone could get a turn.
tim pool
Bro, Concord, legendary release.
No one played it.
Literally, no one played it.
They shut the game down in like two weeks.
unidentified
Good grief.
tim pool
That's how bad it was.
And it's because it was gay.
It was retarded gay communist bullshit.
Oh, presumably.
Was a well, to be fair, even the critics gave it 22%.
They're gay communists.
phil labonte
Women shouldn't make video games.
adam salinas
When the communists score it low, yeah.
phil labonte
Women can be involved in making video games.
tim pool
11 days, bro.
Here we go.
adam salinas
This was it.
tim pool
I hate this shit.
ian crossland
Play September 24.
tim pool
I'm not going to play the full thing.
We'll go to callers in a second.
ian crossland
Music should be in minor, firstly.
All right.
I copy the imagery.
We need to suspend the bumper.
unidentified
Looks good.
adam salinas
I hate it already.
ian crossland
Shrek, man.
Shrek just...
phil labonte
Rabbits are really nice.
unidentified
It wasn't the plan.
It was a spontaneous, creative decision made after years of careful research.
Being really old and almost dying a bunch doesn't count as research.
donald j trump
Almost dying is the best way to learn how not to die.
adam salinas
This is like Team World Guardians of the Galaxy.
unidentified
Two more minutes.
tim pool
Hey, Starcha.
Bro, their release trailer only got 700,000 views.
And the brothers Overwatch had 46 million.
You can just instantly tell.
I don't want to watch this.
adam salinas
I don't want to watch that.
tim pool
Bro, the last bastion, literally nothing is happening.
And you're just staring at the screen like, what's going on?
adam salinas
You lost me at the major chord in the beginning.
ian crossland
And then the girl dominating the guy.
carter banks
Cutter.
tim pool
Bro, it's just...
carter banks
It's a children's movie.
adam salinas
Oh, this is gorgeous.
unidentified
Fine.
He only got one of my legs.
How bad is it?
You're still mad at me.
tim pool
Was this made by a woman?
unidentified
Of course.
adam salinas
Without a shadow of a doubt.
tim pool
I was going to say it right away because it's incoherent.
And I'm not trying to disparage all women, but I guarantee you, The Last Bastion and Brothers was made by dudes.
And like there's some guy being like, let's tell the story of a man who killed his brother and comes to regret it.
And his brother returns and you're like, damn.
ian crossland
This one, the guy is, are you still mad at me?
Asked the girl if she was still mad at him.
What the hell?
Who are you appealing to?
phil labonte
Yeah, the guy is comic belief.
The guy is comic really.
unidentified
Not the hero.
He's comic really.
tim pool
You know, he's the idiot.
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unidentified
Absolutely.
ian crossland
And he should be the leader because he's a big, brawling, muscular guy.
He should be the one carrying the heat.
tim pool
You know what I will say is Exodus Rise of Jupiter or Rise of June Aslan.
Someone in the chat had we should watch it.
I think, as a really easy way to explain everything, it all feels like fanfic.
It feels like Tumblr fanfiction on our favorite IP.
ian crossland
Yeah, I bet it is kind of lumbar.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
People got a hold of the IP, you get new CEOs coming in, don't know what they're doing.
You started at Disney.
phil labonte
It's like, it's women.
tim pool
Anyway, we got to go to college, man.
ian crossland
Bring me freedoms and you can listen to us.
tim pool
Freedom Eagle.
What's up?
unidentified
Not much.
How's everyone doing?
ian crossland
Dude, I'm fucking lit up.
unidentified
Doing good, man.
tate brown
What's up, dude?
We're fired up.
ian crossland
You're tape.
tate brown
I'm fired up.
ian crossland
Animal.
You, man, what's on the agenda?
unidentified
Talk to us.
tate brown
We're ready.
unidentified
I have a bit of a three-part question here.
Whoa.
ian crossland
Give me all three parts.
tate brown
Triple crown.
adam salinas
Separately.
unidentified
So it's more two different questions.
One to two-parter.
First question is: Should we begin ignoring treaties made with defunct states such as the USSR, being that the influence they use to influence the terms doesn't exist anymore?
phil labonte
Yeah, I think that if there were any kind of treaties or anything like that with the Soviet Union, I think that they're probably defunct.
You'd have to make new treaties with Russia or would have had to.
But I think anything that was made with the Soviet Union, I think that those no longer hold any kind of as much as any other international law does.
I think that they don't hold any value at all.
And again, not that international law actually holds any value because it's all discretionary.
unidentified
All right.
To that end, how far should we say it's too far in pushing that concept?
Like we have the weapons and space treaties that were made because of the dispute between the U.S. and USSR.
How far is too far?
phil labonte
Well, I think that the U.S., look, whenever you're talking about treaties, if they're ratified by Congress, then it's Congress's discretion as to whether or not you're going to meet the agreement.
But at the end of the day, look, if the U.S. wants to do something, the U.S. can do it, and who's going to do anything about it?
And that's the way that it goes with everything, right?
Russia invaded Ukraine and the whole, all of Europe and the US condemned it.
But Russia still invaded Ukraine and they took Crimea and the whole international community condemned it.
But guess what?
Crimea is staying with Russia.
It's not going back to Ukraine.
The part of Ukraine that Russia currently occupies is likely going to become Russia when this is all said and done.
So, I mean, when it comes to agreements and stuff, there's international anarchy, basically.
States that have power exercise that power, states that don't don't.
And that's just the real politic of the world.
So how far should we go?
We should meet our treaty agreements when it's convenient.
And then when it's no longer convenient or if it's detrimental to the United States, then we break the treaties.
ian crossland
You could argue that what set off World War I was a series of people being like, hey, it says it in the treaties, so we have to.
They didn't want to go to war.
Like when, what was it, Austria-Hungary killed the Serbian king, some terrorists.
phil labonte
Austria-Hungary, a dude did that.
ian crossland
Yeah, he was the guy, and then that triggered the war between two Austria.
And then that caused the Germans to get involved, which caused the French to get involved, which caused the British to get involved.
And it was like, bro, if one of those guys just like fucked this treaty, that whole war might have been prevented.
unidentified
Yeah, it makes sense.
That makes sense.
ian crossland
But it might also set off, you know, German hegemony.
unidentified
Who knows?
ian crossland
Sorry, what were we saying?
unidentified
For the second question, which would be the third part, I guess, would be, we deployed active duty Marines in the U.S. in 1921 and again in 1926 nationwide to protect the U.S. Postal Service.
They had orders to shoot to kill at the time.
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