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Dec. 19, 2025 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Marijuana LEGALIZATION IS COMING, Trump Orders Weed To Schedule 3 In HUGE Move | Timcast IRL
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tim pool
Donald Trump has signed, was the wrong chair?
unidentified
Yeah, wrong.
They're not switching, bro.
tim pool
You guys are social.
I'll switch in the cameras out here.
We're here in Vegas.
Donald Trump signed an executive order, and it's ordering the reclassification of marijuana from Schedule 1 to Schedule 3, which is like testosterone, ketamine, and Tylenol with codeine, which is a dramatic reduction.
The expectation is this is moving towards full legalization, but Trump Day said, no, we're not going to legalize it.
And I think the reality is, conservatives don't want it legalized.
This is still a major move Donald Trump is making.
It's going to allow research.
It's going to allow broad medicinal marijuana prescriptions.
So it's kind of a big deal.
And then we got, oh, this is crazy.
That shooting at MIT, that fusion professor, may be linked to the other shooting that was recently at Brown.
And then we got Marjorie Taylor Greene's bill, which passed the House saying no more sex changes for kids.
It's going to, yeah, it's crazy.
It's going to be a crazy day, my friends.
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phil labonte
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tim pool
A Discord baby.
phil labonte
Yeah, one of the couples that got together in the Discord.
They met in the Discord, got married.
They had their first baby today.
Wow.
tim pool
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We got Craig Smith.
kraig smith
God, how you doing?
Follow yourself and get it from God.
tim pool
Who are you?
What are you doing?
kraig smith
Man, I'm a comedian, filmmaker, musician.
I do it all, man.
I just, every day I duck poverty.
You know what I mean?
That's my goal.
Yeah, man.
I was introduced to you by David Lucas, man.
tim pool
Oh, right on.
kraig smith
You're a brilliant guy, man.
All fan of what you do.
I'm glad to be here, buddy.
tim pool
Well, thanks for coming.
We got Tate hanging out.
tate brown
What is going on, Patriots?
This is Tate Brown here holding it down.
Indeed, I'm also ducking poverty on a daily basis.
So there'll be some commonality there.
I think we're ready for a good show.
Ian, how's it going?
ian crossland
Very good, man.
Thanks for asking.
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phil labonte
Hello, everybody.
My name is Phil Labonte.
I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains.
I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary.
Let's get into it.
tim pool
Here's the big news, my friends, from CNN Politics.
Trump signs executive order expediting marijuana reclassification after lobbying from the cannabis industry.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
tim pool
Now, it doesn't legalize marijuana, but it's reducing it in the schedule.
So if you don't know what that means, Schedule I was, it's insane drugs.
It's like cocaine and heroin.
But now it's being moved off that list to Schedule 3, which is basically like testosterone or Tylenol with codeine, which is still a prescription thing, but it's not that crazy.
Quote, this reclassification order will make it far easier to conduct marijuana-related medical research, allowing us to study benefits, potential dangers, and future treatments, Trump said in the Oval Office.
It's going to have a tremendously positive impact.
The order, which directs Attorney General Pamboni to hasten the process of loosening federal restrictions, but does not include a timeline, comes after an intense lobbying campaign from the cannabis industry.
I've never been inundated by so many people as I have about this particular reclassification, Trump said.
It's currently considered Schedule 1, along with heroin, LSD, and ecstasy, which are not considered to have any acceptable medical use.
According to the DEA, it will eventually be reclassified as a Schedule 3 drug, which, according to the DEA, has a moderate to low potential for physical and psychological dependence.
The facts compel the federal government to recognize that marijuana can be legitimate in terms of medical applications when carefully administered.
In some cases, this may include the use as a substitute for addictive and potentially lethal opioid painkillers, Trump said, calling the move common sense.
I think it's politically very good for Trump and the Republicans.
I'm not the biggest fan of marijuana legalization, although I don't think it should be Schedule I.
I think that if we enable mass marijuana across the country, I think you're going to get a lethargic population.
You've already got a decaying culture.
I'm still a little bit more libertarian on this one, so I think it should be largely, you know, I guess, decriminalized.
But I have concerns about what's already happening to a crumbling empire and society when we then throw pot on top.
And then what was it that South Park said?
It makes you okay with being bored.
And then when you get older, you'll find you're not good at anything.
I don't think that's good for this country.
tate brown
Yeah, I'm in agreement.
I mean, I'm generally considered one of the resident prudes here at Timcast.
So I have a disposition against marijuana generally, but I actually do sympathize with the argument being made by the Trump administration.
Schedule one seems a bit crazy in many regards, putting it on the same tiers, heroin, these sorts of things.
I can be persuaded on sort of the medical argument.
The more I learn about it, the more I'm like, okay, that does make sense in these applications.
But I do share Tim's fears that obviously total legalization, I don't think contributes to any sort of positive developments in the United States.
I think the way things are heading in the United States, I don't know if legalizing marijuana en masse would really contribute to anything beneficial in any ways.
I don't know, that'd probably be an unpopular take with the Tim guest audience, but I do agree with Tim.
I think you see like in the Netherlands where they've gone to full legalization, the pitch that was made to the Dutch people was, you know, the worry about like adolescents, you know, with their marijuana usage.
But then as soon as it was legalized, it spiked dramatically among adolescents.
It became very normalized throughout society.
And then this became, I know the big-haired church ladies, they catch a lot of ire, but they're typically right on a lot of these things.
It does end up leading kids, specifically kids, into a more hard drug culture with adults that's slightly different, but it's priority here is obviously adolescents.
tim pool
I don't even think Ian smokes pot.
Look at him.
ian crossland
Oh, I like pot.
tate brown
I do.
You got to balance it.
unidentified
You got to be kidding me.
ian crossland
What a shock.
I mean, it's potent.
It's a potentially destructive and dangerous chemical, THC, especially when it's out of balance.
Like a lot of the modern weed is like been cultured and grown and such that it's 27, 28, 29% THC levels, whereas it used to be like 13.
And then it's out of balance with the amount of CBD.
So CBD is really the healing chemical found in marijuana, cannabidiol.
I think that's how you pronounce it.
I mean, they both have healing properties, but the out of balance this makes people, I think, paranoid.
They're crazy.
They think too much.
They're nervous.
Like, that's not good.
And it's very easy to overdose on that stuff, man.
Like a puff, you don't really need a lot of that potent psychoactive to get the real benefits from it.
phil labonte
I don't have a particular strong argument against any of the points being made here, but I do think that it's worth noting a lot of states have decriminalized it now.
And I think that because the states have kind of spoken and made it clear that the majority of the country wants it to be at least decriminalized, I do think that it's good that the federal government's responding to that.
Now, again, I don't think that any of the points you guys are making about what it does to young people, about the ramifications of it are wrong.
But I do think that if the states are going to say, look, we don't want to see, we don't want to put people in jail and waste the resources going after potheads.
I think it's good that the federal government is responsible for that.
tim pool
Well, you look like you smoke pot.
kraig smith
I don't smoke pot.
tim pool
Oh, I was wrong.
kraig smith
Here's the thing.
phil labonte
Comedian doesn't smoke.
kraig smith
I like the government selling weed over people, you know, in the hood.
You know what I mean?
Where I grew up, like guys would actually spray PCP on weed and sell it to people as a higher grade of weed.
And so, you know, I know a few people that actually thought they were smoking marijuana and lost their minds after they smoked it.
They were never the same.
You know what I mean?
So, you know, I agree with the regulation on marijuana.
If I was a guy in the street selling it, I wouldn't agree with it.
But, I mean, I see the benefit.
ian crossland
I thought earlier today, something you kind of mentioned, Phil, is that this might actually free up resources for these guys to go after illegal immigration.
Like, I wonder if that was part of the plan.
tate brown
The issue is, to Phil's point, where it's like a state-by-state basis, is typically the pitch that's made from these state governments when they're trying to pass legislation to legalize marijuana is the pitch they make to conservatives who, you know, are on the fence about it.
They could be persuaded one way or another.
Typically, the pitch that's made is, hey, this generates a lot of tax revenue for the state.
We can start taxing marijuana.
But the issue that we saw in Colorado is that they didn't factor in these social costs that would come with legalizing marijuana.
So Colorado is a great example.
They ended up finding that for every dollar of tax revenue that was generated from marijuana purchases, it costs $4.50 to the Colorado state government and healthcare, law enforcement, like education.
The state has to provide education around marijuana, property.
unidentified
Way to take it back.
tim pool
I'm for marijuana legalization now.
I just realized conservatives aren't going to smoke it.
Like people on the right and people who are actually more studious, hardworking, and meritocratic, they're probably not going to smoke it.
And then all these liberals are going to get high off their asses all day, and it's going to make them okay with being bored and not being involved in politics.
So all these far-left whack jobs will just be stoned and sitting on the couch, and then they'll get out of the way.
tate brown
Fair enough.
That's probably the best argument I've heard yet.
tim pool
Listen to the people what they want.
phil labonte
I think that at the end of the day, this is something that by the Constitution, there's not really any kind of authority for the federal government to say you can't do this.
It is a state's rights issue, in my opinion.
And again, I'm not arguing with any of the points made about whether it's good for people or not.
I just think that the federal government shouldn't be deciding whether or not people can do this.
I think that alcohol is every bit as destructive.
And the general consensus is people should be able to have a drink if they want.
tate brown
Well, do you support the Maha regime?
phil labonte
I'm not typically a Maha guy.
I mean, not that I'm against the Maha guys.
I just don't have any kind of like, yeah, let's go ahead and get it.
tate brown
Well, because I mean, Maha is an indication of like, okay, we're applying regulation for the health of people.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, I understand a lot of the stuff that they're doing.
And again, I don't have, I was never, like, I didn't come to the right because of Maha.
You know what I mean?
It's like, I've been a right-leaning guy for, even when I was a libertarian guy, I was a right-leaning libertarian.
tate brown
No, I mean, that's consistent.
Yeah, because I was like, if you concede that Maha obviously is within the realm of the government, then you would have to apply that standard of marijuana.
phil labonte
Bro, it doesn't really vibe me.
tim pool
No, I'm just agreeing with you.
phil labonte
Oh.
unidentified
I was like, I thought there's like someone behind you.
tate brown
That's the tower got hit.
I was like, what?
phil labonte
Agreeing the way potheads agree.
unidentified
Bro, bro.
kraig smith
Bro, the people that are in prison because of the old marijuana legislature, do they get their restitution back or are they reimbursed for the time?
tim pool
No, they get extra time.
They get 10 more years.
No, I actually said this five years ago when Trump was running.
I said he should pardon nonviolent pot convictions at the federal level so long as they weren't pleading down from a violent offense.
So the idea is Trump comes in and basically says, look, I'm the president.
If you arrested for distribution and there's no other, like you couldn't have taken a plea deal, you're pardoned.
Bam, rubber stamp.
He would have won overnight.
kraig smith
Right.
tim pool
I said he should have brought on Tulsi Gabbard.
Look what he ended up doing.
He never did this.
I said he should have brought on Andrew Yang for economic advisor because that was huge with like Rogan's crowd.
tate brown
Yeah.
tim pool
The UBI stuff, not that I'm a fan of it.
But these ideas were palatable and Trump could have shown a willingness to be bipartisan.
But more importantly, the big point was, and it's funny because in the context of me saying 49th State landslide, I said if Donald Trump legalizes pot or and or vacates or pardons all of these nonviolent pot convictions, landslide, 49th State landslide.
He's going to crush it.
Look what he's doing now.
These are moves he's making because we're entering a midterm year.
So he's doing this, and he's doing a bunch of other things.
He's doing that sporting event.
He made Christmas now three holidays.
Was it four?
unidentified
Three.
tate brown
New Year's or it's Eve and the day after.
Boxing Day.
We now have Boxing Day.
phil labonte
Let's go.
tate brown
These Brits are slowly creeping back in.
What's going on?
phil labonte
It's Christmas Eve and Christmas Day.
Boxing Day after Christmas Day.
tate brown
Three.
unidentified
Three days off.
phil labonte
I mean, look, three days off.
The left has got to love this just because of the fact that they like days off.
They're looking to cut the work week down to 30 hours.
They can't complain about.
tate brown
No, I supported the day after being a federal holiday until I saw the British saying, oh, the Americans are getting Boxing Day.
I was like, you know what?
I'll work.
unidentified
I'll call them.
tate brown
That's ridiculous.
tim pool
So I'm going to jump to this because Amfest is currently happening.
And I'm not intentionally trying to drag them, but we were in this conversation about the legalization of marijuana.
And this was brought to my attention by a Wall Street Journal reporter recently, just like literally a couple hours ago.
And I checked, Bobby Kennedy's not scheduled to speak at Amfest.
And so what happens was I get a call from this Wall Street Journal reporter asking me, like, what do I think about Amfest?
And it's like, I was like, what I already said, you know?
And this woman, she asks me, like, a lot of the Maha guys, the Maha people, they're not here.
She's like, we're here.
And it's like, they're not speaking.
And I asked her, I was like, is Bobby Kennedy speaking?
And she's like, he's on the schedule.
And to me, that was like a, whoa, holy crap.
Because it was last year that Bobby Kennedy stood on stage at a turning point event shaking Trump's hand, with fireworks exploding in the air, uniting these like suburban moms with the MAGA movement, giving Trump the edge to win.
And now Amphest is happening and you know, my prediction was it's going to be almost exclusively dudes in suits coming out and just saying Christianity or immigration.
They're getting rid of that middle of the road or that Maha stuff.
People like Ian you know what I mean.
ian crossland
We need more people like Ian, and we talked about that, but they are getting rid of him.
We'll have more people like like Ian Poseobic want to do a rock show.
I don't know what happened.
We were talking about anybody.
Yeah, like that's.
tim pool
That's true.
tate brown
We need a vibe shift into that, I think would be better than into more suits, and I'm not privy to the approval ratings, but I would assume Bobby Kennedy is, like the most popular cabinet member by far.
tim pool
He's my favorite like well, apparently he's why suburban women voted for Trump.
tate brown
Yeah, I mean, I think people under, I think people in the conservative world like me, completely underestimated how big RFK's arms are.
Yeah well, that too.
tim pool
You see him doing those pull-ups, that and Olivia Nuzzy, and he's doing it in GG.
You guys know about the Olivia NEWS.
phil labonte
She moved to 45 minutes away from where he lives.
Now she's staying she's, she's staking out his house.
I was texting she.
I just saw, I just saw a post uh, from the NEW YORK POST.
I believe she's staying at a place that's 45 minutes away from RFK's place.
tim pool
Dude, she is thirsty.
tate brown
Yeah, orbiter man, could you Imagine?
tim pool
Is RFK Jr.
Like married?
phil labonte
Yeah.
tate brown
Oh, yeah.
ian crossland
To Cheryl Hines from Kirby Enthusiasm.
unidentified
Really?
ian crossland
Hilarious.
tim pool
Could you imagine being like, how old is RFK, 80?
I'm kidding.
He's like 70-something.
So you're some like a really old dude and you're getting, you're taking HGH and testosterone.
ian crossland
You're like, I can pull up 50 times.
tim pool
And then this like 30, like late 30s woman is just stalking you.
He must feel really good.
tate brown
Yeah, some men drown while others die of thirst.
That's what's happening here.
Olivia, Olivia, you got to stay away from it.
tim pool
Dude, isn't this crazy that like, where was she working?
tate brown
Olivia News?
tim pool
Nuzzy?
tate brown
New York Times.
tim pool
And then she like, what she got assigned to interview him, and then she just stalks him the whole time.
tate brown
Yeah, it's that RFK Riz.
It's different.
That ma Riz.
Dude, you know what the kind of pheromones that guy's giving off?
It's turning these ladies into animals.
tim pool
Dude, let's like, first of all, he's probably completely unvaccinated.
tate brown
Yeah, this dude is.
I mean, this dude could single-handedly fix the birth rate if you cut him loose.
tim pool
No, it's the, you know what it is?
It's all these guys.
Okay, YouTube, calm down.
I'm joking when I say this, but you know, there's some guy at YouTube with his finger over the sensor button.
I was going to say, there's these young guys that are just chock fully the vaccines and they're shedding.
And so all these women are like, what's that smell?
But, you know, unvexed Bobby Kennedy.
He's just like, look at me.
I'm joking.
Calm down.
phil labonte
She's 32 years old.
unidentified
Wow.
phil labonte
She's, I put in the slack.
New York Post says she's 32 years old.
She's been hiding from the glare of the paparazzi at the two-bedroom house.
$3.5 million Malibu compound.
Just 45 minutes.
unidentified
I'm telling you.
phil labonte
RFK Jr. L.A. Mansion.
For these thirsty.
kraig smith
Kennedys are loyal to women.
unidentified
Make shit.
phil labonte
It's in the boy.
tate brown
Hey, it's my legacy.
You know, this isn't just Grushenger.
kraig smith
And they'll visit Marilyn Monroe's grave and then go smash her.
tate brown
You got to bring a shovel, but he'll make it work.
unidentified
He'll make it work.
tim pool
How old is it?
Someone look up how old RFK Jr. is man.
tate brown
I'm telling you, it's like a hot pie on a windowsill for these ladies.
I don't know what he's going on.
He's fresh.
tim pool
He's 71.
unidentified
God.
All right.
phil labonte
She's 32.
tim pool
And he takes HGH, doesn't he?
Testosterone.
kraig smith
Yeah.
tate brown
Dude.
phil labonte
I mean, I don't know for sure, but he looks like it.
tate brown
That's why it's tough for guys like me or mid-20s, and then these old heads with the HGH are like nerfing.
They're smurfing.
They're coming down to our low rank, our low tier, and they're just like running out of time.
tim pool
Oh, bro.
phil labonte
Let's be real.
How old are you?
tate brown
24.
tim pool
You're a little young for Olivia.
tate brown
Right.
Well, you know, I've gone to some restaurant missions.
unidentified
You're closer.
tate brown
I've gone to some rescue missions.
unidentified
What is it?
tim pool
He's half her age plus seven.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So that's.
tate brown
That's a stands in core, by the way.
tim pool
That's 23, right?
What is she, 32?
That got my math wrong?
23.
phil labonte
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
So you're writing that range.
kraig smith
That's age Jr.
tim pool
How are you supposed to compete with this jacked up RFK Jr.?
unidentified
I can't.
tim pool
He's so handsome.
Yeah.
kraig smith
He's not hard to please, though.
She just has to blow in his butt.
He'll be all right.
unidentified
I'll let the X go do that.
tate brown
Living up, please.
tim pool
Cheryl's going to see.
kraig smith
I have wind in me.
No.
tate brown
We got to get to handle this.
tim pool
Have you ever seen those videos where this is really, actually really dark?
There's a video of these guys working at a mechanic.
It's like an oil change place.
And they have the air blower.
They pull the trigger and it sprays really.
And then they're blasting in each other's faces and they're going, ah, but then one guy points at the other guy's ass and pulls a trigger.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
Not even in his butt, but up to it.
And it blew him up.
No, like he died.
No, that's not.
He literally died.
He ruptured his colon and he just and then he's gone.
phil labonte
What a way to go.
tate brown
Going out by ruptured colon.
tim pool
Yeah, because there was another story that went viral where it was like, it was like an 18-year-old guy working at an oil change place died of a ruptured colon and intestines.
And the story that everyone thought it was was like, oh.
kraig smith
His boyfriend got him.
tim pool
No, no, no, no.
It's actually.
unidentified
Just go.
tim pool
It gets real dark.
phil labonte
Blown up.
tim pool
This one gets real dark.
Because at first, people were like, you know, this happens because there's like people as a prank will point it at the butt, but the pressure is so powerful, it cavitates the colon.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
tim pool
But that's not what happened to this young kid.
They actually jammed it in his ass and pulled the trigger and killed him.
kraig smith
Oh, wow.
tim pool
So that was like a murder.
That's a murder.
That was just regular murder.
kraig smith
He didn't break Wynn.
He took Wynne.
phil labonte
I don't know.
tim pool
And I just want to make sure everybody listening understands this started because he said blowing his butt.
kraig smith
That's true.
tim pool
And then someone went, Olivia, stop doing it.
tate brown
Cheryl's going to be back from Amfest any minute.
kraig smith
Hey, man, I got a gift for you.
I wrote a joke for you, man.
unidentified
Did you?
kraig smith
They heard it already, man.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
kraig smith
It's about Candace Owens, man.
tim pool
Oh, no.
unidentified
All right.
kraig smith
What is it?
Where I'm from, we call Candace Owens a chicken nugget because she's brown on the outside and she's always full of white meat.
unidentified
Oh.
phil labonte
Her husband is a white man.
kraig smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
He's like, honestly, being a British lord is like as white as it gets.
kraig smith
That's like the British lawyer.
phil labonte
Lord.
tim pool
Lord.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, he's a British lawyer.
tate brown
That's the benchmark for white.
unidentified
Do you think he talks like this?
Oh, wow.
tim pool
I hope he does.
tate brown
Like, he's got a butler.
tim pool
Yeah, I hope he's just like the most proper, like, high-class discussion.
And even when he's being nice, it sounds like he's better than you.
tate brown
Oh, yeah.
He could carry a handbag around and it's not gay.
tim pool
Anyway, we were talking about Amfest.
You know, so I got a call from this Wall Street Journal reporter and she was asking me what I thought about what was going on.
And I said, I'm still friends with them.
You know, obviously, you know, what happened happened.
But I'm like, look, I don't think, like, if the direction they want to go, either directly or indirectly, is just to have more people wearing suits on stage talking about political issue and the whole audience is going to be a bunch of people in suits.
It's like CPAC.
Whereas a year ago, it was looking like it was going to be the new South by South or a new South by Southwest, a major culture hub where James O'Keefe frosts his hair and then moonwalks on stage in a bulletproof vest.
And you've got some weird stuff happening.
And now it feels like it's turning into just like, you know, staunch, Romney-esque conservatives in suits saying, we need to talk about immigration.
And like RFK Jr. could still be a part of that, but it looks like, and maybe he shows up, I don't know.
But I just double-checked.
He's not scheduled to speak.
And I'm like, that's crazy to me.
But hey, you know what?
They didn't invite us.
So I think the problem they're going to face this year is at the midterms that there's this like, I don't know.
I don't know if the easy way to describe it is kind of like the Rogan-esque sphere of politics.
tate brown
Like the barstool.
unidentified
The barstool.
tim pool
Yeah, that's probably a good way to put it, too.
tate brown
Barstool Americans is what they call it.
tim pool
Is it barstool Americans?
They're not going to vote for these conservative guys.
You know, I told this reporter, look, the only thing that's going to make me vote Republican is that the Democrats keep getting crazier and crazier.
Like right where they did, they just voted to give kids sex changes or public?
phil labonte
That's crazy.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And I'm like, I think the Republicans are going to be stodgy suit-wearing dudes in the midterms, and we're all going to be just kind of like, ugh.
But the Democrats are going to be trying to chop off kids' balls, and we're going to go, okay, I guess I'm voting Republican.
tate brown
What's been the big issue with Republicans is that they're perpetually the opposition party and they never actually present sort of a new vision for the United States.
This is the reason why when Trump's not on the ballot, they get blown out of the water because when Trump's not on the ballot, they're just saying, look what the Democrats are doing.
That's pretty hard.
tim pool
But, bro.
But, like, imagine you went to a Globe Trotter's game and the generals won.
You'd be pissed.
And so that's probably how the political world feels because the Republicans are supposed to be the generals who just lose no matter what.
And the Globe tried to just dance around doing literally, even breaking the rules and no one cares.
tate brown
Trump becoming the Republican nominees, like if the generals got Wembanyama.
That's basically what happened.
tim pool
They started winning.
And then the people who ran the game were like, this is not right.
The generals are not supposed to win.
And so now they're trying.
In all seriousness, though, I think they're trying to bring it back to the old days.
They're trying to go back to the way it used to be where Republicans sat on their asses with their thumbs up their ass at the same time, going, ah, and then Democrats just like ran roughshot over the country.
phil labonte
And that's a shame because that's not what Charlie wanted.
That's not what Charlie wanted Turning Point to do.
He was completely interested in bringing people into the party because that's the way that he looked at.
I mean, at the end of the day, he talked about like he wanted to make heaven crowded, right?
Like he wanted to convert people to Christianity.
And one of the ways that he was doing that was by bringing them first into the Conservative Party or the Republican Party, the MAGA coalition, and then he could reach out to them in a way that was that they could relate with.
I mean, and you know, I'm not a religious guy, but like at the same time, I understood what he was doing.
And it's perfectly fine with me if you're fighting against the Democrats and you're bringing people in by doing things like having Tim Cast or whoever at Amfest.
That's that's all good, in my opinion.
tate brown
Yeah, like I made this point like right after Charlie died.
It might have been the day of when Charlie died, is that the biggest loss, among other things, one of the biggest losses of losing Charlie Kirk is that no one else was going to Utah Valley University on a Wednesday.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
tate brown
Like he was the only guy who didn't view, not the only guy, but he was the loudest voice that didn't view middle Americans as like these kitschy, whatever.
He wanted to engage them and speak their language or our language.
I mean, that's where I come from.
And that's why I resonated with him so much.
And yet, without that, this is what you're going to get.
You're going to get CPAC, reheated, and you're going to miss out on all these college kids.
tim pool
I got to be honest, I'm bored.
I'm bored.
I think everyone's bored.
Look, you know, so we're out in Vegas.
This is like Party City.
And the people I talk to, dude, you know what's really crazy is how many people I'm walking around and they know who I am.
And they all are like, yeah, no, it's kind of boring.
Just like the direction politics is going.
It's kind of scary because Charlie was just murdered a couple months ago.
And I'm like, boredom?
I don't know if it's the right word.
But the sentiment I constantly hear from people is, I've already heard this.
So how many times are you going to talk about Venezuela?
How many times are you going to talk about Afghanistan?
You're going to talk about Ukraine.
You're going to talk about sex changes for kids.
Like we've got this story where the Republicans passed a bill banning it.
And what's probably going to happen is the Senate's going to shoot it down for some stupid, arbitrary reason.
And then we're never going to do anything because they're the Washington generals.
And so I go to regular people and they're like, I literally just don't care.
I can't bring myself to click on a video telling me something I've heard 50 million times.
tate brown
People should be bored of politics because things are going so well and they just trust that the bureaucrats generally have their wits about them.
They shouldn't be bored because of like complacency from Republicans.
And that's exactly what's going on here.
They're saying, why would I bother engaging?
Because it doesn't feel like the national GOP is getting anything done.
So what's the point of being tapped in?
Because when I invest all this time and energy into being tapped in, it doesn't really reap any rewards, especially when Trump's on the ballot.
kraig smith
We got to start getting interested because, I mean, shit gets weird when you stop paying attention.
You know, maybe I'm saying the wrong number.
Somebody can look this up, but 282 13-year-olds were given sex changes in this country.
tim pool
That's crazy.
kraig smith
That's ridiculous.
tim pool
Hey, man, that's not fun.
You know what I mean?
Like when we were talking about Olivia Nuzzy blowing up RFK's button, we were laughing.
Now it's all dark and I feel bad.
tate brown
There's not much you can riff on.
tim pool
I'm getting sad.
unidentified
You know what I mean?
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
There's nothing funny about it.
tate brown
You can't go to an open mic and be like, how about these child sex changes?
Ooh, tough crowd.
kraig smith
Literally, they put your penises.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
What's with the walk mob?
tim pool
Yeah, that's...
That's the thing that the liberals have always been really good at.
And that's why they always do that comedy version of news.
Because they know news is boring.
And we're sitting here going like, well, I don't protest.
This tech spot is just too high.
And then Ian says, well, I don't know, man.
Taxes.
It's so boring.
Now, it matters in these political years when people are genuinely worried about their health care.
They're worried about, you know, gun violence or whatever.
Right now, everybody's tired.
We're in an off year.
It's the holidays.
All I want to do is wake up on Christmas Eve and eat French toast sticks.
And I can't because the gluten messes me up.
You got to understand how angry that makes me.
It's like living in a country full of sand and it's in your balls the whole time.
It's just a constant irritation.
No, I think.
I think right now people are looking to relax and be entertained.
And I think what the left does well, it makes people retarded, but they, like, John Oliver famously has that formula for how he does jokes, where it's like he says news thing, and then for no reason mentions Little Timothy or current year.
And it's like, I don't know if you guys ever saw that episode of King of the Hill.
Bobby's trying to tell jokes on the PA, but nobody will laugh.
And Peggy's like, it's because people are retarded.
So she gets a cowbell and she's like, whenever the joke's done, just bang the cowbell and yell.
And then everyone will laugh because you're telling them to laugh.
And it worked.
And it's funny because Mike Judge, he gets it.
That's like basically how it works.
tate brown
Oh, yeah.
You try to watch the one.
tim pool
Can I add a laugh track button to this realm?
tate brown
You ever seen where they like take the laugh track out of Seinfeld and then you watch it and you're like, it's all right.
tim pool
No, it's actually kind of offensive.
tate brown
Yeah.
tim pool
Because like Jerry will walk in and go, George!
phil labonte
And there's no laughing.
tim pool
No, no, just pause.
Just pause for three seconds.
And you're like, I don't understand.
Why did he just yell at his friend and you sit there?
ian crossland
They were in front of a live studio audience, Seinfeld was, but friends.
tate brown
But just make everyone zip it.
Yeah, Seinfeld with no laughing.
unidentified
Jerry, George, my cat just died.
tate brown
And then no one laughs.
tim pool
Judge is for like three seconds to just stare at him.
And it's like, that's kind of weird, guys.
tate brown
Yeah, this is the weirdest cheer.
Like when they walk in and everyone applauds and he's just standing there for like five seconds.
tim pool
All right, let's get even more depressed.
We got news for you from The Guardian.
Police are now investigating links between the Brown shooting and the killing of the MIT professor.
Yo, this is actually really crazy.
This MIT professor was a fusion scientist.
Fusion energy.
phil labonte
Oh, yes, yes.
unidentified
Bro.
tim pool
Do you guys understand what this means?
unidentified
No, explain.
tim pool
All right.
So we recently got fusion ignition.
This is a few years ago, which means like a miniature sun.
That's very reductive into what is actually happening.
But this is the point at which they could sustain a fusion reaction.
This means they can produce a ridiculous amount of energy for almost nothing.
phil labonte
Oh, wow.
tim pool
Basically, gasoline on crack.
Just boom.
And this guy was researching it.
If we can figure out how to get energy out of the system, dude, it's going to make your energy costs like pennies on the dollar.
And so when you get a guy who's one of the lead researchers working at MIT getting shot multiple times in his own home in the chest, the first thing everybody thinks is like, you know, did homie have a breakthrough in fusion energy that was going to shut down the oil industry?
So they took him out.
kraig smith
Hey, man.
Exxon sent that hit.
That's crazy.
tate brown
Well, if these two are linked, I know it kind of downplays a bit of the conspiracy, but if these two are linked, that to me tells me this is a schizophrenic.
This is someone that just spends way too much time online.
He gets radicalized about Republicans and conservatives.
If it's true, like his motive for shooting this woman.
And then with this, this is just someone that was a 4U page American.
They spent way too much time online.
tim pool
Israel for no reason claimed it may be Iran.
phil labonte
I'm not saying it's really investigating whether it was Iran.
tim pool
Yeah, and they're like, we have no reason to believe it was.
And we're not suggesting it was, but we are investigating that it was.
And I'm just like, what?
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
Oh, because talking about why Cornel went after their nuclear program and they're going to return the fake.
tim pool
No, because they said because the professor recently said pro-Israel things.
And I'm like, dude, shut up.
However, there was a really funny bit.
I don't know if you guys saw it from that community.
I forgot.
I didn't get his name.
So sorry, brother.
But it was a fake press conference where he said, please stop referring to the shooter at Brown University as a brown as the brown shooter.
We don't need to add racism to an already tragic event.
tate brown
Do you know how big of a problem it is?
So, you know, like in your email, how you'll get like these offers for personalized t-shirts, and they'll take your last name and they'll put that on there.
I always get advertisements.
It's t-shirts just it's a brown thing.
You wouldn't understand.
One just said brown energy on it.
Like it's giving brown energy.
I'm like, I hope you're not.
tim pool
You should get those shirts.
tate brown
Brown.
tim pool
And then walk around like Harlem or something.
tate brown
Stop showering.
kraig smith
I have a simple question.
Where was the campus police?
Not around.
tate brown
I mean, President Trump himself said, like, what's the deal with the security cameras?
tim pool
My favorite thing in this, did you guys see this picture right here where the feds, there's like eight guys and they're just kicking the snow.
And it's like, you know what?
It reminds me of it.
Reminds me of when you're at work and your boss is walking down the hall and you immediately just start pretending like you're typing something and you know you're playing Tetris or whatever.
tate brown
As a Tim Cast employee, I can't relate to that.
unidentified
I'm sorry.
tim pool
Oh, I know.
Yeah, T is always at the grind.
You know what I mean?
Every time I say him, he's just working really hard.
That's so true.
Isn't that crazy?
I've never seen him slacking off.
phil labonte
It's on Twitter.
Finding stories.
tate brown
Yeah.
ian crossland
I was thinking yesterday if this could be connected to the oil industry, trying to kill this guy so that fusion, it doesn't produce fuel.
Like fuel are things you can pick up and carry around.
So you've got petroleum, you've got carbon, hydrogen, and plutonium.
If somehow this fusion program was helping them get to plutonium fuel or hydrogen, I mean— No, no, no, Ian, you must understand.
tim pool
Petroleum becomes fuel.
We get energy out of that.
We get a lot of energy.
It's really good.
Nuclear is a little bit better.
Fusion would be the biggest.
It would make energy very, very cheap.
ian crossland
But you can't carry it around with you.
Like, you can't fuel.
You can.
tim pool
No, but it can power homes in the grid.
ian crossland
That's on a grid.
On a grid.
tim pool
So we can, right now, I think half the grid is coal.
tate brown
Yeah.
phil labonte
At least.
tim pool
Powered by Santa's hard work.
ian crossland
You know, it's just, I mean, why theorize conspiracy?
I was trying to read this.
tim pool
I know where this is going.
I know where this is going.
He's going to start saying something like, they should be focused on graphene.
unidentified
Maybe we should do it fusion.
tim pool
Electric fuel cells with graphene-lead batteries.
Oh, okay, we get it.
ian crossland
No, I'll hold back.
It's tragic.
It's absolutely tragic.
47-year-old quantum physicist or whatever he was, plasma science.
unidentified
Plasma scientists.
phil labonte
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
I don't know.
Now, the crazy story about this, I guess it seems like they're not doing their jobs.
And, you know, it's funny because I'm getting a lot of people complaining because I said Dan Bongino did the best he could.
And he's quitting.
I think, I assume you guys talked about this yesterday.
Yeah, because he couldn't do anything.
Like the idea that Dan Bongino got there was like, all right, guys, now I'm going to be evil.
I was like, yeah, that didn't happen.
Dan Bongino did not get hired by the FBI and say, now I'm going to pretend to do as much as I can while going to the beach and eating gingerbread.
No, he probably tried as hard as he could and he couldn't do anything because the machine is crooked.
So he's like, okay, I'm quitting after eight months.
ian crossland
What's the point?
tate brown
I made the point on the noon live that him being in the FBI and now stepping back into the podcast space probably will be of more value to us than if he just continues.
tim pool
Also, he just scares the shit out of me, though.
ian crossland
I think so.
tim pool
Like, dude, if not Dan Bongino, then who?
You know what I mean?
tate brown
Well, that's a very salient question.
tim pool
He gets in there, gets nothing done.
To be fair, Cash and Dan did a lot of street-level policing, which is good.
But look at this, these FBI guys walking around kicking snow.
Right.
What is this?
tate brown
Well, and if you are to believe the Axios reporting, he also Nazi eye to eye with Bondi on a lot of things.
So it's even up for debate if there was even cohesion with the Trump people, let alone the deep entrenched apparatus within the FBI itself.
tim pool
You know, I got to say, right, because we were just talking about the Amfest stuff.
This reporter was asking me, like, what's the future going to look like in the political space?
And I said, Democrats have a track record of being lunatics, so I'm not going to vote for them.
But Republicans going like neocon round, I'm not going to vote for them.
So I honestly don't know.
But what I can say is Trump as a person, I like what he's done.
You know, B minus, C plus, except for the people he hires.
Right.
First time around, he hires a bunch of deep state garbage.
Second time, he hires a bunch of old women with plastic surgery.
I'm not trying to be addicted to the old ladies with plastic surgery.
I'm making a statement of fact, not a derisive one.
It is literally older women that he's largely given these positions to, and they've got a lot of plastic surgery.
And so I'm questioning whether or not could there have been better choices.
kraig smith
Sure.
tim pool
I think everyone agrees that he could have made better choices.
And we ragged on him the first time for doing this.
And maybe his idea now was like, I'll just get people who are going to do what I tell them to do.
ian crossland
Like Carolyn Levitt, he's like, look at her pretty, did he say pretty face?
Look at those lips.
And it's like, that's what he wants is this.
tim pool
And then Van DiFair posted that picture of all their injection sites or whatever.
phil labonte
Yeah.
They can to make her look bad.
tate brown
I think that was Trump's strategies.
He wanted people that were loyalists that could simultaneously get approved by the Senate.
Because that's the limiting principle in all of this is that if you got like these super base nominees, they would get shot down.
ian crossland
Matt Gates.
tate brown
The reason you can push them and like someone like Dan Bongino probably would have gotten held up in the Senate, but the deputy director is just directly appointed by the president.
He doesn't need to be approved by Senate.
tim pool
I kind of feel like I'm bored of all this as well for the same reasons most people are.
And we have to just make fun of it all.
You know what I mean?
Because if we're not laughing, we're going to get depressed.
I mean, this is sincerely.
Like, you know, earlier we were making these jokes about Olivia Nuzzy blowing up RFK's butt and him enjoying it.
And it's funny and we're all laughing.
And that kind of brings the joy back to being in, you know, talking about these things because we've been so serious for so long.
It's so depressing.
ian crossland
When you're young, it's kind of cool to be an activist, an anti-establishment activist.
Like, yeah, down with whatever that is.
But as you get older, you kind of got to solve the problem or stop complaining or you're just going to be angry and miserable complaining your whole life.
unidentified
For sure.
tate brown
The reason why the 2024 campaign from Trump was so different feeling was because he brought in a lot of these, the coalition expanded to bring in a lot of these comedians, these entertainers, and these sorts of things.
And it gave some energy to a Republican candidate that's never been there.
Not even really in 2016.
2016 was mostly organic from the people, but the people in the Trump orbit were still kind of these stodgy conventional Republicans.
2024, you saw the coalition expand because of Trump's character in a lot of ways because he just invites those types of people.
And it was a lot of fun.
I mean, it had a certain flavor to it that was really distinct.
And it was actually the opposite problem for Kamala.
She had all these orbiters who were just super serious.
Oh, Trump's like Hitler in 2.0.
And it's like, I'm going to go with the people that are having fun.
phil labonte
I think part of the reason why Trump attracted so many people in 24 is because so many people were disillusioned by COVID, right?
That was what the four years that Biden was in office, people really saw how dishonest the government had been.
And arguably Trump might be a little bit responsible for that because he didn't fire Fauci early or late in his last year and stuff.
But there were so many people that once it kind of came out that social distancing was BS, wearing a mask was BS, all these things came out and people were like, well, I just don't trust the government.
I don't trust the Democrats because they're the ones that are in power.
So I think a lot of people, once they started to be able to discuss these things, once they saw the rollback of the censorship that was going on on YouTube and stuff, they started to say, well, I don't want the guys that were doing that.
And Musk buying X, buying Twitter and changing it to X, that was also a huge issue for people.
And so once that was kind of established in the public zeitgeist, then they were like, well, we can't support the Democrats.
And even still, there were still a lot of people that voted for Kamala Harris, even though she was, you know, had three months and was arguably the worst candidate the Democrats have ever produced.
tate brown
Yeah, terrible.
Yeah.
I mean, well, I think an underrated aspect of all this is what you said, is Elon buying Twitter was a massive game changer because it didn't just affect Twitter, is all of these other social media platforms had to react because they didn't want to get lapped by X. If everyone that was getting banned from all these sites who were just normal people rushed into X, it would have put them out of business, especially because X was like aggressive with video and these sorts of things.
So everyone, we always discuss, you know, on the show, like, oh, if you go on Instagram Reels, you're going to see some really wild stuff.
And the reason for that is because Meta had to roll back a lot of their draconian moderation in reaction to X's new policy.
tim pool
Let's jump to this story.
We have this from 19thNews.org, and I would be in favor of shutting down the 19th news.org.
No, it's very obviously like a feminist news blog, but they say House Republicans advance sweeping anti-trans bills ahead of holiday break.
One bill would jail doctors who prescribe gender-affirming care to trans youth.
Another would block Medicaid dollars from funding that care.
And then we have this: RFK Jr., from also 19th News, announces new rules targeting care for transgender youth.
If approved, the proposed federal regulation would dramatically impact an already challenging landscape.
To put it simply, they're saying no more sex changes for kids.
And Democrats are in favor of this.
And so I'm just, you know, look, the Democrats have been insane for a long time.
I feel like the Republican Party is going to move into this like DeSantis-esque neocon kind of territory.
Maybe Dan Bongino coming back to this space can be a more unifying voice for the people who don't want to vote for Democrats.
But outside, like we obviously, like we can talk about the ban on child sex change and all that.
I'm just wondering what you guys think is going to happen to the political parties in this country because there are a lot of people that no longer fit into the traditional Democrat or Republican space.
tate brown
Well, I think that's why you're seeing the knife fight within the Republican Party right now.
You're seeing, I think.
tim pool
Yeah, they're saying get out.
tate brown
Right.
Well, and I think you're seeing the neocons, they're much more clever this time.
They've crafted their message in a way that's much more appealing to the MAGA base.
And that's why they're trying to poison the well ahead of time for JD Vance, where you have kind of a double-pronged attack because you have these neocons, and then you also have these sort of dissident right-wing figures.
But the neocon strategy, this is at least what it looks like to me.
You guys may disagree, is that the reason that they're sort of calling everyone Groypers all of a sudden, even if you have nothing to do with Nick Fuences' politics, is because they want to set the stage for 28 to be able to label someone like JD Vance a Groyper.
And so it's kind of a reheated version of the alt-right, where it's like, if you just vaguely disagreed with Jeb Bush, you were a part of the alt-right.
And even if you had nothing to do with these alt-right figures, that looks to me to be the play they're setting back up, and that's how the neocons are going to wrestle control of the party.
tim pool
Please clap.
ian crossland
They're using the term patriot too.
They're going to use that heavily and be like, are you not a patriot?
What kind of patriot are you?
And that'll be like propaganda to get people to be like, you don't like that we're going to bomb Venezuela?
Are you not a patriot?
phil labonte
Well, see, I feel like the left has already tried to make that phrase toxic.
Like they've used that as a phrase.
And you see a lot of people taking, you know, like, we're taking it back and starting to like the way that Tate uses it.
But like the left has really put a lot of effort into saying using the phrase patriot, especially after like after January 6th, they were saying patriot groups.
And they were saying, if you're a patriot, that's actually a right-wing extremist.
tate brown
But in some ways, I'm seeing the left actually try to like retcon American patriotism in a lot of ways.
The example I point to is with the LA riots earlier this year is initially the rioters were just flying Mexican flags.
They were making it very obvious that they were just Mexican nationalists, whether or not they were born in the United States.
And what happened is you saw a lot of these figures kind of in this Ezra Klein sphere saying like, hey, this looks terrible optically.
You guys need to start wearing American flag shirts, flying American flags, so you can like it'll pass the sniff test for right-wingers.
And that's so, I think the left's actually sort of wised up to this in some sense is they're actually trying to portray themselves as those standing for American values.
Like you noticed last night with Brian Shapiro, is if I had any critique of our current immigration system or the previous immigration system, he would say, that's un-American.
That's anti-American.
And he would actually have no legitimacy from history, but he would say that because it just sounds worse.
And for a right-winger that doesn't know anything about politics, they go, oh, wow, is this guy a communist?
tim pool
I was talking to these guys the other day, and they were asking me about the show.
And I said, what's the best way to describe the show?
I don't know.
We say stuff like eschatology or something.
And they're like, okay, I would never watch that.
And I'm like, right.
You know, it's like, we're going to use we're going to use big words.
And this is the rights problem.
They're very serious.
They're very attuned and very smart.
And it works for smart people.
But average people, if they can't understand what you're saying, it's not a question of interest or disinterest.
It's disconnect.
tate brown
I agree.
I think the rights issue is that they're taking themselves seriously.
These neocons, their aesthetic is serious in a very LinkedIn way rather than like a traditional form of like high culture and these sorts of things.
And I think the American people would be open to sort of aesthetics that are elevating to the soul.
Again, that sort of uplift you in many ways.
I think the issue is that all they wear, the reason they're wearing this suit and tie is because that's what they see on LinkedIn.
That's what they see in the Fortune 500.
tim pool
You know, you know what Crowder is so good?
Because he does comedy.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And I think that's, and it's unfortunate that he's kind of on this island.
And I think the same thing is true for us.
But the moderate to right space is largely just an island.
Crowder is very funny.
He shows viral clips and then they make fun of those viral clips.
So it's entertaining for a regular person.
And then he introduces you to these more complex ideas and debates.
It works amazingly well.
The unfortunate thing is that he's on an island and the movement to push back against these lunatic Democrats largely does not include people like him.
So one thing we have to do is be substantially more entertaining.
kraig smith
I agree.
And I think the problem is, you know, they need a better understanding of existentialism.
You know, the common American now is more concerned with being able to express their individuality and be more expressive and creative.
And a lot of times you have to tie ideas into the fact that this guy wants to be a magician, but he's a Republican.
Let me figure out a way to make him feel at home and not like a weirdo.
You know what I mean?
tim pool
I mean, it's crazy the flack that James O'Keefe would get from conservatives because he likes moonwalking.
I'm like, bro, you want him to moonwalk.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Like he, he, bro, like in we did an event on stage and where were we?
It was like in New York.
And James O'Keefe just in the middle of the room pushes everybody aside, has moonwalking.
And I was like, this is hilarious.
kraig smith
That's a whistleblow, too.
That's a dog whistle.
tim pool
That's right.
That's right.
kraig smith
Vote for me.
Black guys are moonwalking.
tim pool
But what do we, look, with all due respect to MFAS?
I'm not trying to be a dick.
But it's going to be a bunch of just dudes in suits.
tate brown
You need some eccentricity.
I mean, that's, that's, I mean, someone like Milo, that's why he's so popular among other things is because, again, he's delivering ideas in a package that's like hard to look away from.
I mean, that's even kind of been Flint as a secret sauce.
The majority of people that are interacting with his content online aren't even really tracking with what his politics are, his policies that he's proposing or any sort of thing.
They just see the clip and go, that's pretty funny.
And then they identify as a Groyper.
And it's like, because that's the most effective way to communicate an idea is through something that's compelling, that's funny, et cetera.
tim pool
He is surprisingly funny.
But like, I don't watch his content, but I've seen the clips where he's got this kind of like dry, sarcastic humor that kind of hits when there was something that came up with like Piers Morgan asked him about black people being in jail.
kraig smith
Right.
tim pool
And he tried framing it as though it was a blanket statement that Nick wants just for being black.
And he goes, yeah, the murderers.
unidentified
And it's like, and then he was like, but you're saying black people.
tim pool
And he's like, the ones that kill people.
And then he like kind of walked them in.
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
People are saying he kind of walked Piers into it because Piers took the bait from the clips, not realized that his point was he didn't care about your race.
If you're a murderer, you go to jail.
unidentified
Right.
tate brown
Yeah, well, that's because Fuentes is able to flip-flop from irony into like post-irony on the turn of a heel.
And Piers Morgan is a super serious suit-wearing establishment crony.
And so he is not prepared whatsoever to handle someone like that.
So he comes on, and all Piers is doing is just taking whatever he says at face value, not realizing that Fuentes just kind of sees him as like a character.
And he doesn't even view Piers as like a person.
He views him as like a face of an entire ideological framework.
tim pool
It was sad that Jon Stewart kind of went nuts.
tate brown
Yeah.
tim pool
But, you know, he disappeared for a long time.
I've always been a big fan of Jon Stewart.
And then he retires.
And then when he came back, he sounded like a lunatic because he was no longer online with the liberals at first.
You know, he went on Colbert and he was just like the coronavirus lab where the virus just appears across the street.
And we say that can't be related.
And then Colbert desperately trying to be like, well, maybe not.
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
Jon Stewart comes back into politics expecting to be his traditional liberal comedic self, pointing out obvious things like there's the Wuhan Institute for Coronavirus Research a block away from where the virus emerged.
And they were telling him he was wrong, but he fell in line.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
He quickly fell in line and started blaming white people for stuff.
tate brown
Because Jon Stewart's issue was he was still shadow boxing.
He still is shadow boxing against opponents that would have been relevant like the 90s.
So he still views like wasps and like the church as primary opponents to his ideology when these haven't really been like, you know, formidable opponents in 30, 40 years.
So he's really just shadow boxing now against this is like you see the same thing in the UK.
Like Kneecap's a great example where they're like always railing on like the queen or the king because they view them as like they're still stuck in this old framework where these were viable political vehicles.
And it's like, dude, these people haven't been relevant in 40, 50 years.
How about you use your comedy, use your edgy self to address the actual things you can't, you know, because if you asked Kneekap to like address like Islamic immigration to Ireland, they would freeze up and it's like, yeah, because that's actually something that would challenge the establishment in a meaningful way.
So it's people like that, like Jon Stewart and his current iteration are trying to challenge an establishment that isn't established anymore and they don't want to challenge the current establishment.
phil labonte
And you brought up Nekap and I mentioned this too.
Like the only thing that Knecap disagrees with the Royals about is whether or not there should be royals, right?
All of the opinions that Knekap has are the same opinions that the Royals have now.
They're very much, they're all talking about, you know, they're all pro-Palestine.
They're all very much left-leaning and progressive in their politics.
Only difference is, well, we're the royals and you're not.
tate brown
Yeah, they act like the royals are still tormenting Ireland as if that has like any relevance whatsoever in 2025.
The royals don't have a grasp on their own country, let alone Ireland.
tim pool
Yeah.
tate brown
So yeah, that's what it frustrates me tremendously.
People on the left that, again, are just shadow boxing.
You're not challenging the establishment in any meaningful way.
Maybe develop an argument that will catch you some flack.
And then that's an indication that maybe you're pushing in the right direction.
phil labonte
Yeah.
If you're not, if you're not catching some kind of flack, if you're not catching it from someone, then you're certainly not saying anything in any way.
tate brown
No, well, you made fun of Trump?
Dude, how are you going to get away with it?
He's going to put you in jail.
He's a fascist.
And then nothing happens.
tim pool
Or Trump laughs.
tate brown
Yeah, or Trump.
tim pool
That's pretty good.
tate brown
Yeah, Jamie Vance makes it his Halloween costume.
It's like, hello.
phil labonte
Or he tells Mamdani, it's okay.
You can call me a fascist.
tim pool
We got big news.
Big news.
We got this from Fact Post.
It's a short clip, but listen to this.
donald j trump
In the fall, we will host the first ever Patriot Games, an unprecedented four-day athletic event featuring the greatest high school athletes, one young man and one young woman from each state and territory.
But I promise it will in the fall.
tim pool
He promises that they will be brought into a large arena near D.C. where they will often fight to the death, and the winner will be the victor.
May the odds be ever in your favor.
tate brown
If it's truly hand-to-hand combat, I think Arkansas runs the table.
There's no question.
phil labonte
It's an American warrior, man.
tim pool
I think maybe Arkansas won't go.
I don't know, man.
Chicago.
kraig smith
Chicago.
tate brown
Well, if you can't bring firearms in there, again, there'll probably be no substances in there, so they'll fall apart.
They'll probably just kill themselves.
kraig smith
So there's no sport.
They haven't said a sport.
tim pool
I don't know.
This is a real thing.
phil labonte
I think it's going to be like American Gladiators where they do have the foam missiles they'll shoot at you that you'll run down the.
tate brown
If it truly is like a variety of sports, I tweeted this earlier: is that your best odds, if you're just not an athletic person, but you want to be on the national spotlight, you should be arranging your affairs to move to like American Samoa because territories are included.
American Samoa, the Northern Marion Islands, these are places with like 30,000 people.
So if you move there right now, you're not going to have any competition just picking up scary sports on TV.
kraig smith
I think the Simon's are pretty big and athletic.
I don't know.
tim pool
He said territories.
So yeah, you got some big Simon's, but I'm going to go with like I'm going to go with Washington because there's a lot of Asians in Washington.
And if you're saying no weapons allowed, then I'm going to make the generalized assumption that my people are naturally good at martial arts.
kraig smith
I'm going to Guam.
I'm going to Guam.
phil labonte
There you go.
unidentified
No Mezzo Indian could beat me in a sport.
tim pool
Washington just has to find the two high school students who can kill like the best.
phil labonte
Right.
tate brown
Oh, yeah.
If it's a kill-off, then like Illinois is going to run the table.
If it's no holds barred, yeah, I'm going to Illinois.
tim pool
It actually is pretty crazy to think because, I mean, obviously the killing makes it comedic in that it's so over the top.
Obviously, we're not laughing at people dying, but it literally is very hunger games asked to be like the Patriot Games, where two kids from every state are brought to the Capitol to have a dinner with me at the Capitol.
tate brown
The winner's state will receive maximum federal funding for the next calendar.
kraig smith
This feels like the 36th Olympics.
You know what I mean?
tate brown
That's whatever wins, he won't deploy ice into that state for the year.
donald j trump
There you go.
phil labonte
There you go.
Amnesty for everybody in your state if you win.
ian crossland
Yeah, we were just talking about how great youth sports are, though.
This is a big, big, big thing we got to get going again.
If you want kids to have healthy sex lives and be like aggressive, you know, adult males that pursue women, have families, like some young sports really gets you normalized.
kraig smith
Kids having sex lives is incredible.
I mean, look, look, it's a kid, technically.
tim pool
We've talked about how there's no young people.
Like there's a population collapse underway.
Gen Alpha is only 42 million.
kraig smith
Wow.
tim pool
Yeah, and you can't reverse that because you can't go back in time.
We're missing 42 million people.
Trump doesn't want to import them.
He wants to deport the ones that came illegally.
The Democrats want to import them.
So I'm wondering if invading Venezuela is just like, listen, we don't have the labor, but we can steal the energy.
We put Venezuela back on the oil market and pump all their oil in the system, and it's going to bolster our capabilities without having the same labor class.
We're going to have something to sell to make money on.
And then I bring this up in this context because Trump's vision of bringing America back to where it used to be, baseball and apple pie, it's going to need people.
And so that means this is a 40-year plan.
Stealing oil and taking over, you know, Venezuela's close.
They got a lot of oil.
We could take that oil.
tate brown
Well, that's what, I mean, I've proposed that I think the United States should take sort of a page from these countries that do think in these long term, have these long-term strategies where they do have these worker programs.
We literally come, you have three years in the country.
You can't bring your family, can't bring your wife.
You're literally here to work.
Help us build our stadiums for a World Cup or whatever, and then you get out and you cannot come back, not even as a tourist.
And I think that's kind of a win-win is for some of these massive mega projects that we need to do in these countries, and you do have to keep labor costs low, that could be a viable option because as the population retracts, there's going to be a higher demand on labor.
And I do think that potentially we could allocate our labor into more viable industries.
And in turn, we could keep labor costs cheap for like construction of mega projects by taking maybe like a, I don't know, like a UAE strategy.
ian crossland
Perhaps we were talking about doing a public works project.
Andrew actually brought it up, like a roads project.
It's been a while since we've done an American public works project that I know of.
But if we, you know, revitalize our roads across the country with like 21st century materials, that'd be freaking badass.
tim pool
Remember that important, bro, bro.
Oh, wait, wait, finish your thoughts.
ian crossland
Import workers for the project and then they leave when they're done.
Was that what you were saying?
Is like it's a temporary work piece?
tate brown
It's just a simple works, like works program for, you know, you bring them in, they get out, they can't come back.
That's much more viable than like currently, where you just keep illegal immigrants on the book and just like hope no one notices.
tim pool
I want to explain to you the problem with communism, Ian.
ian crossland
Please, it's impossible to believe it.
tim pool
This idea of us just spending money as a country and be like, we've decided we're going to allocate an obscene amount of money in this one direction.
I'll give you a couple examples of the problems here and why it's got to be more meritocratic than that.
Not to literally say public works is communism, right?
Do you guys remember that viral video where they were like, what if all of our roads were solar panels?
And they were like, there's 846,000 square miles of road across this country.
And then it showed like this graphic where it was like, if we made our roads solar panels, it would be a massive grid generating electricity while we drove right on top of that.
tate brown
That's why we got to keep the weed out of everything.
tim pool
Exactly.
And do you guys know what happened when they tried it?
unidentified
What?
tim pool
So first it went viral and everyone's like, it snowed.
This is amazing.
They were like, the dirt on the road obstructed the light and it generated no electricity.
And then the plates got scratched and it refracted light and they became useless in the trials that they did.
Or there was that other video that went super viral where it was like, why can't cell phones be modular?
And then it showed like a base phone and it was like, maybe you want a camera and a big camera clicks on.
It's like, maybe you want a small battery.
Small battery clicks on.
And then Google bought it and then the project died right away.
And everyone, all the hippies got mad and they were like, Google bought it and killed it because they didn't want to protect the environment.
Because if people had modular phones, if the camera broke, you could swap the camera module out for a new camera module and you'd have the same phone forever.
And the real reason was that it's impossible.
The real reason is that it was a made-up thing online that wasn't possible to do.
And it was this gigantic, bulky piece of trash with low battery power that nobody wanted.
unidentified
Right.
kraig smith
To your point.
tim pool
That's what happens.
kraig smith
To your point about a labor shortage.
I mean, we had the same problem, and a thing called slavery happened right after.
But England, during that time, they tried to do things to combat free labor, like emptying the streets of all the vagrants and homeless and shipping them to America when we were short of labor.
So, I mean, I think the answer to the labor shortage is we have buck farms called prisons.
So if we need more citizens, we should just let women into prisons and open the sales and let nature take its course at some point.
I mean, because that's pretty much what we did in the past.
I know it sounds crazy, but government-sponsored convoy visits is what we're doing.
phil labonte
If they just hire more female prison guards and then nature will take its course.
That seems to be a phenomenon that happens a little bit.
The female prison guards end up pregnant with inmates' children.
kraig smith
Right, right.
tate brown
It's getting crazy.
phil labonte
Get somewhere where the camera doesn't look.
And next thing you know, it's like, nature takes its course.
kraig smith
Imagine raising a baby in a sale, though.
phil labonte
That's crazy, too.
Well, I mean, if she's free, then you've just got to provide state funding for the child, I guess.
tate brown
I mean, people do it in studio apartments near New York City.
phil labonte
I mean, with roommates.
tate brown
With roommates that's actually crazier neighbors.
unidentified
So, it's possible.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, I'm not sure that that would actually work.
kraig smith
No, it wouldn't work.
tate brown
You know, it's interesting.
This is what we're here for.
We're here to percolate with these ideas.
kraig smith
Right.
tate brown
Let them throw them out.
tim pool
Well, we, you know, next, this 2026 is going to be bonkers, dude.
It's going to be the 250th.
We're going to have the Patriot Games.
Aren't we having some massive festival in DC or something?
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
The World Cup's going to be here this summer.
I mean, like, the world's biggest event all across the United States.
tim pool
The World Cup's happening all over the U.S.?
tate brown
Yeah, the World Cup's always throughout the country.
It's played in, and the final will be in New Jersey at Metlas.
tim pool
And this is what sport?
Football.
I have no idea what that is.
kraig smith
Foodball.
tate brown
It's some commie gobbagle.
I don't know what it is.
phil labonte
It's a sport for people that can only afford a ball.
unidentified
Brown.
tate brown
Brown energy.
I'll wear it for the World Cup.
They'll love it.
tim pool
It was funny how the Simpsons made fun of soccer, where the announcer was just saying, like, he goes left.
He goes back.
He goes back and forth.
He goes back and forth.
And that's like all he was saying.
And they were kind of like, okay.
tate brown
I let my hand slip.
I let my card show this morning on the live shows.
I do actually like soccer quite well.
phil labonte
That's a lie.
tate brown
It's very unfortunate.
Soccer.
ian crossland
I used to play.
unidentified
Deployed.
tate brown
Oh, yeah.
It was a backup fullback.
Backup fullback for, I can't name that.
tim pool
That's not a real position.
tate brown
The backup's not a real position.
That's why it was a backup.
tim pool
There you go.
tate brown
I was riding the pine as I said.
kraig smith
Soccer.
Sounds like domestic violence soccer.
tim pool
That's right.
You know, it's patriarchy, and we should say away with it.
ian crossland
Away with it.
tim pool
No, I mean, I'm actually stoked.
It means a lot of, it's going to be a lot of tourists coming in, a lot of money coming into the United States.
tate brown
So the joke is like all these Europeans used to writing public transportation when they get dropped off in the DFW and they have to figure out how to get to the stadium.
tim pool
Bro, you know what's really going to be crazy is if it, if it's all over the country, these tourists are going to come in from places like Europe or whatever, and they're going to get robbed.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
tate brown
Can you imagine they're coming from like you know beautiful Paris or Rome and they get dropped in Kansas?
ian crossland
Is that a joke?
tim pool
Beautiful Paris or Rome.
phil labonte
In Europe, you have to worry about it.
tate brown
I'm just saying these really, you know, these really like, you know, whatever, and then they get dropped in like Kansas City, just get robbed right away.
phil labonte
With a gun.
tate brown
They have to download Uber.
They pull their phone out.
tim pool
You want to hear a joke?
ian crossland
I would love to hear it.
tim pool
How do you say hello in Paris?
tate brown
Salam Alik.
unidentified
Yes, you got it.
tate brown
You know, the sad thing is I went to Paris, and it's true.
It's actually very true.
It's very unfortunate.
phil labonte
There's the 250th anniversary of the U.S., too.
That's going to be a big deal.
tim pool
I'm going to buy a bunch of fireworks and I'm going to blow them up.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tate brown
What you got to do is, you know, those balloons that have the numbers is just gobble up all the 250 numbers.
tim pool
I got an idea.
We should get a bunch of balloons, like 100 of them, on really long strings and launch bottle rockets at them.
unidentified
Ooh.
tim pool
Is there any, you know, I'm going to phrase this very carefully because we have a very large property with lots of open space.
tate brown
Right.
tim pool
And we will seek the permits to do this first, YouTube.
But we'll fill the balloons up with helium and butane.
tate brown
Butane.
tim pool
I don't know if it'll be able to lift it, though.
tate brown
I don't know.
Ian, this would be a question for you.
Does butane have...
ian crossland
I defer to chat GPT on this one.
Let's find out.
tim pool
Okay, hydrogen.
tate brown
Hydrogen.
unidentified
Ooh.
ian crossland
Hydrogen balloons.
unidentified
Hydrogen.
tim pool
And then we launch bottle rockets at them.
kraig smith
Oh, wow.
tim pool
Pretty cool, right?
tate brown
That could save a lot of money at the Venezuela operations.
Send it over there.
tim pool
Just go to Miami and just launch a million hydrogen balloons into the air.
tate brown
It's like, oh, we actually blew Guyana off the map.
You forget to carry a one.
Argentina's gone.
tim pool
Have you guys ever seen Dragon's Breath?
Shotgun?
phil labonte
Shotgun shells shooting hydrogen full balloons.
tate brown
What is going on?
tim pool
Do you not know about Dragon's Breath?
No, I don't know anything about semi-automatic Dragon's Breath video.
phil labonte
There we go.
tim pool
It's magnesium shards.
tate brown
Oh, no.
ian crossland
Is it going to load?
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Look at this Mossberg.
Can this gun cycle this ammo?
phil labonte
Yeah, it can.
unidentified
There we go.
phil labonte
That's a GCX code.
unidentified
Woo!
Mikeland.
phil labonte
There we go.
tate brown
How do you even, like, if you're his neighbor, would you even say it's the bottom?
phil labonte
Nothing.
tim pool
My neighbors, no, no, no, no.
phil labonte
You don't say anything.
tim pool
No, of course you do.
You say, brother, can I come over?
I'll blame the beast.
tate brown
Is that real?
I'm also sitting off, I think, nuclear bombs in his backyard.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Dragon's breath.
kraig smith
I'm in on this.
unidentified
What is it?
tim pool
Like shards of magnesium.
phil labonte
It's bird shot with magnesium in it.
tate brown
Can you imagine someone breaks in your house that that's what you used yourself to hide?
phil labonte
Look, dude, it's going to scare his friends if they're not inside yet.
tim pool
These are, these are, what are they?
Exotic shells, right?
I bought a pack of a bunch of exotic shells.
And what are they called?
Like flashe?
phil labonte
There's flashettes.
tim pool
The flashette is what it is.
It's a bunch of blades, right?
kraig smith
Yep.
tim pool
He has a shotgun shell full of blades.
phil labonte
They have what they call sabos, which is a shotgun shell with basically a needle.
It's like just a dart.
It's got in the shotgun shell and you shoot it and there's a plastic.
tim pool
Well, the sabo is when it falls away, right?
phil labonte
Yep, the plastic beef falls away and you've got basically it's shooting a little dart.
Shotguns are cool, man.
tim pool
Dude, the exotic ones are crazy.
I got one of them that's a bunch of, it's literally a bunch of needles.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
And when you shoot it, it just a bunch of spikes.
Like, basically, you could put anything in a shotgun shell and just let it rip.
phil labonte
What they call a blunderbus back in the day.
You just shove a bunch of crap into it and it's got just a big long tube.
tim pool
Like forks.
phil labonte
I mean, forks, but they would put shards of broken glass.
Junk mail.
tate brown
I'll be able to reutilize my junk mail.
Yeah, just hit them with some Kohl's cash.
kraig smith
Spired credit cards.
tate brown
That's right.
I got hit with the water bill last night.
phil labonte
You just shove rocks in there.
tim pool
Yeah.
Anyway, yeah, good point.
We should take a bunch of balloons full of hydrogen.
We'll get the permitting for this.
kraig smith
Yes.
tim pool
And then we hang them up all over and blast them with dragon's breath.
phil labonte
It'd be sick.
tate brown
This will impress the Europeans.
tim pool
No, it'll terrify them.
tate brown
Yeah, this actually might, yeah, as soon as the World Cup's over, it's like, get out of here.
phil labonte
We'll leave it in.
tim pool
I got a joke for you.
I got a joke for you.
What does a person in Paris say when they're very shocked?
tate brown
I don't know.
tim pool
A la Huakbar.
tate brown
There we go.
There we go.
tim pool
You're supposed to say Sacre Bleu.
tate brown
Yeah, with the newcomers in France, I don't think they'll be put off to the explosions.
They'll be like, oh, this is very familiar to me.
phil labonte
I thought that's why I left the Middle East.
I thought I got away from it.
tim pool
It's like that meme where it's the Middle Eastern guy and woman, and then a drone strike happening.
And he's like, you know, they say the next one will be fired by a woman.
And the woman goes, can you imagine being a part of history?
phil labonte
I know.
tate brown
It's really beautiful.
phil labonte
It's so progressive.
tate brown
It's very beautiful.
tim pool
Well, speaking of all that, we've got this story from Newsweek.
H-1Bs to be completely banned under Republican proposal.
phil labonte
Let's go.
tim pool
Republican congresswoman has called for a total ban on H-1B temporary visa program, part of the wider effort to go after the immigration system.
Texas rep Beth Van Dyne, is that you pronounce it?
Told conservative commentator Betty Johnson that politicians had failed to consider the unintended consequences of immigration programs like H-1B.
That H-1B visa program has got to either stop right now until we understand the amount of just how it's being taken advantage of or redone.
So it doesn't exist.
It cannot continue in the way it has.
Newsweek contacted Van Dyne outside of regular office hours.
Why?
Why did they put that in there?
Like, we called her when we knew she wasn't around.
Okay, so you didn't actually try.
What do you guys say?
For or against?
unidentified
For.
Yeah.
tate brown
I mean, like, this is the whole thing is this is not a program you can reform.
It's just clearly been demonstrated that people will take advantage of it.
I mean, it's only like 90% of H-1B visas went to India.
So this is just not something that could be reformed at this point.
And then you have to ask the question, these employers cannot use it responsibly either.
We saw, obviously, back when this sort of discourse kicked off, people were using it for like janitor gigs and whatnot.
So it's like if the corporations can't be trusted and the issuing office can't be trusted, just scrap the program.
tim pool
But did you guys see that thing with Piers Morgan where he was asked, like, what does he like about multiculturalism?
And he said, chicken tick and masala.
tate brown
Yeah, literally.
tim pool
That was made in Glasgow.
phil labonte
I was going to say that's not even from India at all.
tim pool
But, but, but it was an Indian guy.
So the question then is, you know, here's the point.
It's a double whammy.
If Piers is like, I like multiculturalism because we have chicken tikka masala, which was invented in Scotland, he's saying the dude who made it wasn't Scottish.
ian crossland
He's also kind of being...
tate brown
Is he Denise Piers Morgan?
ian crossland
Like...
tim pool
He's like, you are not Scottish.
ian crossland
He's kind of being not, I don't know if racist is the right word, but that's a very dumb answer because having chicken tikka masala has nothing to do with what cultures of people live around you.
tim pool
We can steal whatever food we want.
ian crossland
You know that you can get the recipes online.
You can get the ingredients online.
You don't have to Indian people in your country to make Indian food now.
It used to be 100, 500 years ago, maybe it was that way.
It's not like that anymore.
tim pool
Well, it was never that way.
ian crossland
Do you guys know that you guys have a secret?
tim pool
Do you, friends, know the legend of ketchup?
phil labonte
No, it's delicious.
tim pool
Oh, well, let me come gather around and I will tell you a tale.
A guy went to China and had katsu, which is a vinegar tomato sauce.
And then he came to the United States and he was like, I'm going to make it.
And they're like, what is it?
He goes, katza.
And then they put kats up.
And then cats up got rednecified into ketchup.
tate brown
I'd always been told there was an episode of King of Queens where Arthur, the dad, he objected to calling it ketchup because he said it was like the commodified brand name of it.
And the actual substance is called katsup.
That's like how people call tissues Kleenexes and it's like, even if it's not Kleenex brand.
So he refused to play a part of this corporatization of our products.
And I thought that was a bold stand by Arthur Spooner.
phil labonte
I don't know if that's all a bold stand.
tim pool
Chinese fermented fish sauce.
Katsu.
unidentified
Oof.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
And you can actually get katsu.
You go to a Chinese food restaurant, it's vinegar tomato sauce on chicken or whatever, chicken katsa or whatever.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Ancient China, a pungent fermented fish sauce.
tate brown
And then yeah, this whole idea that you have to, even like, let's just say Piers Morgan's like priority was like food options, which whatever.
It's stupid, but it's whatever.
If you go to Tokyo, it's a very homogenous country.
It's like 99% ethnically Japanese.
And you go around Tokyo, you will have the best ethnic food from around the world.
The best Italian, the best Thai, the best Indian.
No matter what, Tokyo has fantastic array of options.
And the reason for that is they said, rather than importing the people here simply for the recipes, what we can do is we can send the Japanese chefs to these countries.
They can learn from them and then come back and open restaurants.
Not to mention now, you can just look up the recipe.
And so you actually get like a really authentic, what's the word I'm looking for?
You know, very delectable food options.
phil labonte
Yeah, and I mean, it's also worth noting that like in Japan, they don't really have a concept of close enough.
Like it's right or it's not right.
Yes.
They're very precise in everything.
When I was like, we've done a bunch of touring in Japan and you go there and the first day your crew will set up the stage.
And then once everything's set up, the local crew will come in.
They measure everything, take pictures.
The very next day, when you show up at the venue, your crew included, like when you guys show up, everything's set up.
If you had a Red Bull and a beer set on the riser, there would be a Red Bull and a beer.
Like it is their attention to detail is like no other place I've been and I've been to a bunch of connections.
tate brown
That's wonderful.
I mean, I went to the McDonald's there and they bow to you.
I'm like, in the United States, they square up with you.
tim pool
So it's really important.
I want to propose a compromise with Piers Morgan.
I will guarantee he can have chicken tick and masala.
In fact, I will bring him pot thai personally, but no immigration.
I'm kidding, but like if his point is the food is good, it's like, okay, then the argument from the anti-immigration side is, then we will plunder their food and you can have it.
Is that your argument?
tate brown
The British did that.
They literally would just topple countries for spices.
phil labonte
Oh, bro.
tim pool
You know how many people were killed for black pepper?
tate brown
Yeah.
tim pool
Amazing.
It's like 50K.
tate brown
Worth it.
tim pool
50,000 people were slaughtered so that aristocrats in France could put black pepper on their steak.
And then the funniest thing is, every restaurant down to the redneckiest piece of trash restaurant is going to have black pepper on every table that nobody uses.
kraig smith
Yeah, can I add a likely conspiracy to the ketchup?
Yeah, let's do it.
Most likely the person who brought ketchup back was a heroin dealer.
During that time, there was a shortage in silver, and a lot of American aristocrats were selling heroin to Chinese drug lords.
And they would go trade heroin for silver.
And I'm just putting that out there because that's something that happened around that era, you know, is heroin being sold to Chinese drug lords.
tate brown
Yeah, you did have the British when they were trying to open up the Chinese market.
They flooded it with opium.
kraig smith
Indeed.
tate brown
And then that gave them a just cause as soon as they cut off the opium supply, then a war broke out.
kraig smith
The Frank Lucas of white people probably brought ketchup back.
tim pool
There are a lot of things that, apparently, like the Ketzop thing or Quetza or whatever is super old.
Like there's legends of it going back, like it's ancient pungent fish or whatever.
It's wild when you like rolling dice.
These things have been around for like thousands of years.
We just kept them.
ian crossland
And we're still so primitive.
Like the word building, there are words where the word indicates what it is.
Like, what are you doing?
I'm building.
What are you building?
A building.
Like, that's how creative people get, and then they just stop.
That's the level we're at right now as humans.
We're still calling.
tate brown
Well, have you seen where the word for soap, the root word, existed in Western Europe and also among the Aboriginal Australians?
So if you look at a map of the word soap, and the Aboriginals, they called it Sabu, I think, or Abu.
And it's the same root word as soap.
And the most interesting thing about all of this is this word traveled all throughout Africa, East Asia, Europe, and it missed India.
And I'm not even joking.
It somehow missed India.
I don't know.
You can extrapolate that from what you want.
tim pool
Not even true.
tate brown
That's true.
That is anthropology.
Like, you know, I'm sorry.
phil labonte
It is what it is.
Not even joking.
tate brown
I'm not.
Pull up the map.
I hate this.
I don't like saying that.
tim pool
Actually, another interesting thing is because just because we're at the poker ghost studios, poker is like a thousand years old.
phil labonte
Is it really?
tim pool
There's a bunch of different theories as to the origin, but one of them is that it was like in Germany.
There was like a bowl with cups in it or like, you know, like around it.
And everybody doubted the card and the king was the best.
And then you had rocks or pebbles and you'd wager them and you'd say, like, I'm knocking.
Who's there?
I am the king.
I don't believe you.
And so this is like the root of poker.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Yeah, it was a single card game.
And then whoever the highest card won.
That's all it was.
tate brown
It's like how in chess, like all of the words are derived from like ancient Persian.
Like checkmate was like chuck mats and it meant the king is in danger.
kraig smith
Wow.
tate brown
And chess is like something like 1500 years old as well and it made its way over to the West.
kraig smith
Do you know soap is what stopped the plague?
tim pool
Soap.
phil labonte
Yeah.
Yeah.
kraig smith
In Europe, they used to bathe and eat in the same pots they cooked in.
And the Moors conquered certain parts of Europe and introduced soap and that's what stopped the plague.
tate brown
There we go.
tim pool
You know what's funny is that ancient Rome had toilets and then after the civilization collapsed, they just started chucking shit out the windows onto the floor.
No, but for real, like in these medieval villages, they just take a bucket and they'd throw it out the window and right.
Like what happened?
So that actually has me worried about what's going on right now.
Because if we do go into a total social collapse, we lose Instagram reels.
I know.
tate brown
There's no point in me being alive if that happens.
tim pool
Well, I think actually, speaking of that, they're going to ban it.
phil labonte
Instagram reels?
tate brown
Like the carousels?
tim pool
Social media for kids.
tate brown
Oh, yeah.
The Australians have already done so.
tim pool
Exactly.
And as other countries talking about doing it, I think they should.
tate brown
Well, I would actually, I would challenge you on that.
I think with the Australians, I've always maintained this policy, which is when the left throws the right a bone, you should always be skeptical of why that's occurring.
And I think the reason the Australian government banned social media for under 16 is because ideas are being disseminated to kids that were turning them more right-wing.
Therefore, they want to get on top of that.
I don't think it was like a, you know, usually we operate against parents, but in this instance, we're going to join forces with parents to ensure their children are safe.
tim pool
I think we should ban the social media, and then when a kid gets caught using it, we beat them.
tate brown
Singapore-style question.
tim pool
Flogging.
kraig smith
How did we get completely clean before wet wipes?
tim pool
Completely clean.
kraig smith
Like, what do you mean?
tim pool
Your butt ribs.
We didn't.
tate brown
I don't think we did.
tim pool
It was like they would look at the pork ribs and be like, I wish I could eat it, but my hands will get dirty.
tate brown
Just go to Memphis and everyone's hand is nasty.
No one knew what to do.
Only some sort of satchel with a moist towelette in it.
phil labonte
I don't know.
tim pool
They used a fork and a knife.
tate brown
Oh, do you think so?
Do you think Memphis is, you know, I'm from.
tim pool
Why do you think buffalo wings weren't invented until like 15 years ago?
tate brown
It's very salient.
kraig smith
Yes.
unidentified
I don't remember buffalo wings in the 90s.
tim pool
It's because you couldn't wash your hands.
And so the chicken existed, but we had not yet invented cutting its legs off and deep frying them and rolling it in sauce.
tate brown
Right.
phil labonte
I don't know about that.
We hadn't figured it out.
tate brown
And no one cracked it.
tim pool
I heard the Scottish figured out.
I heard the Scottish invented fried chicken.
kraig smith
Wow.
tate brown
They fry everything.
They fry like chocolate bars.
They're like a bunch of fruits.
phil labonte
Because there's a lot of Scottish people that came over to the U.S. and they went to the South, and that's why part of the reason why it's Southern Friedrich.
tate brown
If you listen to country music, it sounds remarkably similar.
It's like Ulster folk music.
tim pool
No single person invented fried chicken.
That's a lie.
That is an absolute lie.
There was a first person who did it.
We all know it.
But they say it came from ancient frying methods with Scottish immigrants bringing deep frying techniques and West Africans contributing crucial seasonings, creating the iconic southern dish in the American South.
Bro, I don't care about your secret spices.
I care about it being deep fried.
kraig smith
It's like the first interracial couple was born.
tate brown
This is a group project.
It's a very beautiful thing.
phil labonte
But yeah, if you look at that.
tim pool
What happened was the Scottish guy was carrying his fresh fried chicken and he bumped into this West African woman who spilled all of her spices into his chicken bucket.
And then they looked at each other and it was lovely.
phil labonte
And they fell in love.
kraig smith
Oh, my God.
tate brown
It's beautiful.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
And then they were hanged for segregation being illegal.
phil labonte
So the Scottish came to the South.
A lot of Scottish people settled in the U.S. South.
tate brown
I was one of them.
phil labonte
Were you a little?
tate brown
400 years ago.
kraig smith
Aren't they the reason for the term?
unidentified
Well, I don't want to say cracker.
tate brown
The etymology of crackers is not certain.
tim pool
Is that something your family history would know a lot about?
tate brown
We were broke.
We couldn't afford it.
tim pool
You couldn't afford it.
tate brown
We love our fries ran.
We were more real.
The Irish was more ours.
tim pool
Don't accuse my family of having slaves.
We were poor.
tate brown
Yeah.
The Irish that was a little more our, yeah.
Well, the common etymology that people explain for crackers, the whip cracking, but that's not actually true.
It was referring, yeah, I mean, you take it away.
tim pool
Wasn't it because that there'd be like an old white guy in a rocking chair next to a barrel full of crackers outside of a convenience store?
kraig smith
No, that's funny.
tate brown
No, they were.
The suspected etymology is that the Scots-Irish, when they would ride on these chuck wagons because they were such hooligans, I'm using the Irish slur there intentionally is they would be cracking up.
They would be laughing quite a bit.
These Scots-Irish, they barely work.
There's a bunch of crackers.
This was just cracking up.
ian crossland
Here it says comes from Middle English crack cracker cracker, meaning a boaster, someone that boasts.
And then from Shakespeare, a noisy boaster, one of those lines.
What cracker is this same that deaf sour ears?
He's asking about the best.
tate brown
This is my favorite etymology.
Do you know the etymology of hillbilly?
unidentified
Maggie.
kraig smith
Oh, talk to him.
tate brown
So this is a really interesting one.
So if you go to Scotland and a lot of Protestants there identify as billy boys, and this goes back to William of Orange.
Obviously, he was this sort of Protestant insurgent, insurgent king in England.
And so a lot of the Protestants sided with them.
So if you were siding with William of Orange, you were therefore a billy boy.
You were a supporter of King Billy.
And so what happened is a lot of these Scots-Irish from Ulster and a lot of Scottish migrants from like the lowlands then came to the United States.
They still held that allegiance in some ways to King William of Orange.
And since they moved into the Appalachians, they became billy boys, hillbilly boys, hillbillies.
So that's where the term that one I'm 100% sure on.
ian crossland
I was thinking about the history of the word cracker while you were talking because it's like if it means somebody that boasts and there's a bunch of black dudes in like 1820 or 1870 being like, yo, these motherfuckers don't shut the fuck up.
They talk so much shit.
These are the crackers that we read about.
kraig smith
There was a vagrant class of like Irish people that lived like in the 13 colonies, like in Georgia and places like that in the swamps.
And they were really like gangster, tough guys.
And they were referred to as that as well because they just kicked up a lot of dust, caused a lot of trouble, you know what I mean?
Rob people.
ian crossland
They were probably.
tim pool
The problem with the left likes to push this, that it was the whip crack.
The problem is that the left only understands slavery as like field worker slaves being beaten.
And it completely omits the entire economics of slavery, which is people were working in shops.
kraig smith
A lot of it was an indentured servitude.
phil labonte
Right.
kraig smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Or evolved from.
Like they were slaves who were cobblers.
And they're making shoes.
There's no whip crack for a guy working in a shoe store.
tate brown
The interesting thing about slavery is actually was like the last thing, holding back total industrialization.
Because like, for example, the British Empire struggled to really industrialize until they outlawed slavery.
Because it propped up like a what's the word I'm looking for?
Propped up export of crops forget the word it's.
It's agrarian, it propped up an agrarian society.
This is why the north developed so much more quickly than the south is a.
The south had, for a variety of reasons, a decentralized uh culture.
This comes from the norms, etc.
But mainly because the south relied on slavery to prop up their agricultural industry and they had no need to develop machines because labor was everywhere, it was cheap, it was essentially free in many ways and so they never actually needed to develop machines because they had human labor.
Versus in the north, where slavery was outlawed, they're just like well, labor costs are really expensive, let me just see if I can make a machine to, you know, eliminate the need for a human being.
So yeah, industrialization really took off following the outlaw of slavery.
kraig smith
Another element of that is a lot of single white males that came to this country during that time were indentured slaves and had to actually work for families in the if they didn't have children, you know, because the population was so low.
If you didn't have a family and have children to give to the country, then you had to work as an indentured slave to a man who had children in a family and helped them tend to their farm yeah, and and be productive citizens.
ian crossland
Could you imagine if that happened today?
I mean, I don't know that we'll go there, but they're like we need a workforce.
Every family gets a slave.
As long as you have a child in the house, we'll get you one foreign worker that will be yours to do as you wish with.
tate brown
Well, in many ways, I mean, there is compulsory compulsory compulsory, mandatory labor.
Um, that comes in part with like an h1b visa, because your status, Status in the country is entirely dependent on your employer.
So if you stop showing up to work, you're going to get deported.
You've been fired and deported.
kraig smith
That's something controversial.
If you have a loan, you're an indentured slave.
unidentified
Yeah.
kraig smith
So, I mean, we sell debt.
You know, I mean, we sell the debt of people who have loans to foreign people.
So, yeah.
I mean, if you have a debt, man, you're.
tate brown
That's the Christian ethic behind the outlong of usury.
That's why we had usury laws is because we said a man would view you as less than if he held interest on you, if he held a debt over your head that was accumulating.
And so that's why usury was a sin because it would lessen your view of another individual because you're saying, well, this guy owes me a bunch of money and that interest is racking up.
Usury was just charging interest on debt.
kraig smith
You know, there's an interesting video on YouTube.
I can't remember the guy's name because my brain isn't working, but they went around in the 30s and interviewed ex-slaves, people who survived slavery.
And they talked to this guy who was a slave about loans and debt, and he just could not understand the concept.
It's a great video to listen to.
They asked him what he thought about interest rates and shit.
He's like, man, basically, what?
Like, if you can't afford it, why are you buying it?
Like, I don't get how I could owe you money.
You know what I mean?
Like, I'll do the work and you give me what I need for the work and it's over with.
So, yeah.
tate brown
I think I don't know if I have this entirely straight, but usury is still outlawed in Islam, widely accepted as a sin in Islam.
So, the way that a lot of these Islamic countries are able to bank, like in the 21st century, correct me if I'm wrong, Serge may know, but I believe what they do is they sort of estimate what the interest would be, how much interest would accumulate, and they front-load that.
So, you pay a fee upfront in addition to your loan.
So, your actual loan doesn't accumulate interest.
You're just paying a normal, you know, a standard rate throughout the duration of the loan.
But the interest was front-loaded at the beginning.
So, that's how people in the Middle East are able to acquire a mortgage or a long-term loan.
ian crossland
So, you'll take out a million dollars, you get $700,000 of it, and then you just have to pay back a million, basically.
tate brown
Yeah, yeah.
So, you just, there's like, it's like a down payment in some ways.
That's how they're able to conduct banking in countries with usury laws.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tate brown
And usury was banned in Europe until like the 15th, 16th century because they needed money for wars.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, look, capital markets have really benefited the country largely, but I do think that because we don't educate people on how interest works and stuff, people end up getting completely and totally underwater all the time.
tate brown
That's why Middle Eastern countries never have recessions is because they don't have huge debt crises, crises.
I'm struggling to say words today.
phil labonte
It's probably got something to do with the oil that most of them are sitting on, too.
tate brown
That as well, but even countries, well, yeah, I mean, Turkey would be a bad example, but they rarely don't have economic recessions on like scheduled 10-year durations like we do in the West, where it's like every 10 years, there's pretty much a crisis that occurs and there's a huge crunch.
phil labonte
I think, in my opinion, that's more of a product of the fiat system that we use as opposed to just having capital markets.
unidentified
Right.
phil labonte
Like, yeah, when the government is setting the interest rate, because the price of money, right?
That's what you're that's what your interest rate is.
It's how much it costs to borrow money.
When the market itself sets the price of money, then you don't have the government trying to incentivize different areas by tax policy or by not trying to get people to take out loans by lowering the interest rate or get people to not take out loans by increasing the interest rate.
It's the manipulation of the market by the government that actually ends up sending mixed messages to the market.
When you have a market that is allowed to price money at a rate that the market decides, then you don't have the same kind of like the 2008 crisis wouldn't have happened if the government wasn't saying, oh, we want people to be able to take out loans.
And they were messing with the credit, the credit.
They were allowing people that didn't have good credit to take out more money in loans than they could actually pay back.
tate brown
That's why the central banks across the world are always incentivized to keep inflation like 2% to 3% because that stimulates your economy that forces people to spend their money.
Because if inflation is at 0%, people will just sit on their money because it's not losing value.
ian crossland
I'm learning a lot, but I'm bored.
tate brown
Yeah, this is very boring.
ian crossland
Let's take the same thing earlier.
unidentified
Can we go back?
tate brown
Can we go back to the sexual?
tim pool
Everybody can understand that.
Look, we got one more day left.
unidentified
You know what I mean?
tate brown
I'm sick of talking about interest rates.
tim pool
Everybody's sick of lit.
ian crossland
I'm also, I don't know, scared is a right word, but no regime change wars.
This is a big part of my life.
tim pool
You're for it now.
ian crossland
Now you're for regime change wars.
tim pool
Yeah, because it's boring to say the same thing for 10 years.
tate brown
Now, the balloons add a whole new weight you out.
unidentified
That's right.
ian crossland
This is how military orders work.
They just wait for the populace to quit complaining.
We haven't had a regime change war in 16 years.
Don't worry.
Don't worry.
Now look the other way.
We're going to do a regime change.
tim pool
No, We haven't had one in 16 years.
So now it's good because we get at least one every so often.
tate brown
Think about how we should.
ian crossland
This one will be different.
tim pool
Hey, we launch rocks like little or little cannonballs, but we tie hydrogen balloons to them.
So they fly in there and then they land on the beaches of Venezuela.
Then we can shoot them with Dragon's Breath.
tate brown
That could work that way.
tim pool
I think it's a particularly ineffective means of combat because maybe a bullet would just do a better job.
phil labonte
But the range on Dragon's Breath isn't all that far.
tim pool
I think everyone's bored with hearing the same thing over and over again.
So for the sake of just being entertaining, I'm in favor of regime change war.
Let's start with Canada.
tate brown
You know, let's do a 2v3.
I'm in favor as well.
Name a country Deep Parney to be top one.
tim pool
I met this Canadian guy a few days ago, and he was talking to me.
He asked me what I did.
I said I do politics.
And he was like, oh, he's like, yeah, I'm from Canada.
And I was like, oh, yeah, the Canadians hate me more than anybody.
And he was like, why is that?
And I was like, because I made a joke where I said we were going to conquer Canada and subjugate it.
And now no group of people wants to murder me more than Canadians.
phil labonte
And he wanted to fight you.
unidentified
No, no, no.
tim pool
He was just laughing.
And he was like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
We were there.
He laughed.
He's like, yeah, that sounds like Canada.
And I'm like, yeah, everyone acts like they're polite, but they're sitting there waiting with a blade behind their back to get you.
ian crossland
He was like an Alberta guy, I think.
Alberta.
He was saying how different it was.
unidentified
Where's that now?
phil labonte
We got breaking news.
tim pool
You haven't found an article yet?
See, we got to verify this before I just blurt it out.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
And why?
On X?
New York Times reporting the brown shooter's found dead.
phil labonte
Yeah, I just saw that.
Whoa.
kraig smith
Was he brown?
tim pool
I think he was.
ian crossland
Coincidentally.
tim pool
Two minutes ago.
Breaking news, ladies and gentlemen.
Let's hit this.
We got this story.
I can't read it.
tate brown
Oh, no.
tim pool
I got to log in.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Let's go back to trying to.
Thank you for reading the Times.
You're welcome.
What does this say?
That's so stupid.
tate brown
They're nickel and diamonds.
It's a form of usury.
Paywalls.
ian crossland
Load times.
tate brown
Load times.
ian crossland
They just want extra money.
tate brown
That's what it is.
ian crossland
They want my time.
tate brown
I noticed the ad always loads before.
tim pool
We'll just wait till someone else reports it because otherwise I got to log in.
tate brown
Like on YouTube, all the ad loads in crystal clear 4K and then the video doesn't load.
tim pool
Person of interest.
No, it's not the brown shooter.
Person of interest found dead.
The authorities found the man's body in a storage unit in Salem.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Two law enforcement officials said they added that they believe he was also connected to the killing of an MIT professor this week.
phil labonte
This is weird.
ian crossland
This sounds like they're trying to shut it down.
unidentified
Yeah.
kraig smith
Did they find a note on him?
How is he a person of interest?
Like, you know, what, yeah.
ian crossland
Who said they were a person of interest?
tim pool
And was he brown?
ian crossland
The question still remains.
tate brown
Is he a person of interest?
It's an interesting person.
Yeah.
tim pool
They've not identified the person.
But could this just be another victim?
kraig smith
It could be.
phil labonte
It's dude.
tate brown
Maybe it's the storage wars.
It went kinetic.
tim pool
No.
What if what's happening is that the deep state has lost control for some time now.
And so all the wet work they're doing in desperate.
Yeah, they're trying desperately to regain control, so they're taking people out, but it's just they don't have the means of keeping it under wraps anymore.
So we're figuring out.
ian crossland
Yeah, the internet is changing.
tim pool
Wait, wait, hold on, hold on.
We need to get more viewers on this show because it's like we're in the offseason.
Israel did it.
tate brown
Yeah, that sounds about right.
unidentified
Jewel, I don't know.
ian crossland
Israel versus Ismawa.
kraig smith
It was Ann Frank's great-grandson.
unidentified
That's right.
ian crossland
Tony Frank.
tim pool
Wait, wait, how did she have a kid?
tate brown
That's a good question.
ian crossland
Who's better?
Israel?
tim pool
That was actually the diary of Anne.
It's all in the Diary of Anne Frank Part 2.
tate brown
It's the DLC.
It's like Mormonism that's coming out a little later.
phil labonte
It's a lot of seasons now, right?
It's every season.
tim pool
Who can we blame that will get us a lot of clicks?
phil labonte
I mean, you just went to the top-notch or top dog.
tate brown
Israel's pretty much as good as it gets, I think.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
There's going to be like a bunch of chat, and they're going to be like, whoa, they're right.
I mean, I didn't even say anything.
tate brown
Well, Tim Cast gets it now.
This guy's finally.
tim pool
No, they're going to post things like so close.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
They're so close, Tim.
tate brown
Now you're joking around.
You got the call.
tim pool
That's what I got to call.
unidentified
I did.
tim pool
Yeah, but it was Israel.
tate brown
I'm getting the call guys.
Oh, Domino's?
tim pool
No, I got a call, and it was a lot, and he asked me what I wanted for lunch.
And I said I wanted to get if they have gluten-free bread, I get a roast beef with Swiss and mustard.
I like the mustard.
And he asked me what side I wanted.
Well, I said coleslaw, but I'm not going to eat it.
I mean, just, you know, so I get whatever.
tate brown
That's the most anti-white thing I've ever heard.
You're not eating coleslaw.
unidentified
Yeah, no.
tate brown
That's like personal.
tim pool
But like, they give you that little thimble thing full of coleslaw.
I was like, I don't want it.
tate brown
Yeah, it's just like a sampler.
tim pool
Yeah, what is that for?
Just like squeezing in your mouth and then you're done.
ian crossland
It's not shot into it.
tate brown
It's like a shotgun.
ian crossland
Coleslaw is like just vinegar, sugar, and sugar?
unidentified
Yeah, vinegar, sugar, and raw red cabbage with vinegar splashed on it.
Coleslaw with MMs in it.
kraig smith
Turn this shit up.
What?
tim pool
You know what I'm going to do?
phil labonte
I think he's making fun of Ian.
tim pool
I'm just, I've been feeling real dark lately over everything that's going on.
So I think.
tate brown
Is everything all right out on the floor?
tim pool
No, what I'm going to do is when we get back is I'm going to fill up a bowl with MMs, but I'm going to put like a little bit of Skittles in it.
tate brown
Oh, that's slow.
kraig smith
Yeah.
ian crossland
That's called your janitor.
unidentified
That's what you do when you really get it.
tim pool
What happens when the guests show up and we have a bowl of MMs?
I'm just going to sit there staring at them like this.
Just waiting.
And they're going to be like, they're going to grab it and go.
tate brown
It overloads their sensory system.
They have a health crisis.
tim pool
You know what you do?
You tell someone, you ask them if they want milk, but then you give them orange juice.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
tim pool
Did it ever happen to you?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And then your brain freaks out because it's like acidic, so it instantly tricks your brain into thinking it's spoiled.
tate brown
So that's what happened.
My dad, when he met his in-laws for the first time, they made him coffee and they had salt in the sugar thing.
And so he was putting salt and he's like, their coffee is an aspiring.
I can't say anything.
I don't want to offend them.
This is my first time in their hustle.
So he just choked down like three cups of salty.
phil labonte
Same kind of thing when you expect still water and you end up with bubbly water.
ian crossland
You're like, yeah, or when you're expecting water and it's pee.
phil labonte
What?
tate brown
How is that relatable?
ian crossland
I mean, that makes sense.
So it's just warm and salty.
tim pool
Well, it's because he bottles it and stores it for later years.
ian crossland
That was my brother's pee.
unidentified
Scooted in the coastline.
ian crossland
He laughed and laughed.
tim pool
You're really close to losing that Kalshi bet.
ian crossland
Oh, man.
What's the bet?
What's the bet?
tim pool
Before the show started, one of the chatters said that Kalshi is giving it a 57.4% chance that Ian will mention his penis.
ian crossland
No, because the pee came out of his penis.
Oh, right.
tate brown
That's a completely different penis.
kraig smith
Scooted in the coast.
That's going to cause a riot between the Aryan brothers and the blacks in prison, man.
tim pool
Oh, right.
Do you guys remember Koleshaw?
Do you guys remember when the New York Times had to put peas in your guacamole?
phil labonte
What?
tim pool
And it united the left and the right.
ian crossland
Really?
tim pool
Everybody did.
Literally, Jank Uger and Gavin McGinnis were holding hands in outrage.
I'm kidding, not those specifically, but literally everybody was like, I want to punch the editor in the face who told us to put peas in our guacamole.
ian crossland
Yeah.
phil labonte
Fox News hit on the brown sugar.
That kid?
tim pool
He was white.
kraig smith
He was white?
tate brown
Brown shooter?
phil labonte
Brown shooter was white.
tim pool
Ah, here we go.
kellyanne conway
A high-place source has just told Fox News that the suspected shooter was found dead from a self-inflicted gunshot wound.
We have a Fox News alert.
tim pool
But they didn't confirm if the brown shooter was brown.
ian crossland
And this is the two-pete killed two now.
tim pool
And maybe the MIT guy as well.
ian crossland
That is a weird one.
I cannot, I don't think those things are remotely related.
That is bizarre.
phil labonte
We'll find out.
ian crossland
This is a big ploy to get that MIT guy dead and then shut the whole thing down and be like, look, it was just some random thing that happened, everybody.
Go back to sleep.
tim pool
Maybe.
ian crossland
Maybe.
phil labonte
We'll see.
tim pool
Maybe Ian drinks his own urine.
ian crossland
No, it's just my brother's urine.
Shout out to Max.
tim pool
I'm worried he's very.
I'm not sure if he's joking.
ian crossland
No, I'm not joking.
I was pissed.
I chased him into my parents' room.
unidentified
He was laughing and he checked in my, I was like, you made me drink my pee.
ian crossland
And they were like, it's not funny.
It's not funny.
phil labonte
Why is it that you...
tim pool
Is that what happened to you?
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
Like, you were like a normal kid.
You had like straight A's and then you drank pee and this is what happened.
tate brown
Yeah, he went, hey, want some water.
ian crossland
I was playing Nintendo and he was like, want some water.
I was like, that was nice of him.
Yeah, of course.
He came out with this blue plastic cup that I couldn't see through.
unidentified
And I was like, took a sip and I assisted immediately.
phil labonte
This is like a very woman thing to do, like telling stories that are really embarrassing about yourself.
tim pool
But he's been holding on to this trauma for like 50 years.
ian crossland
I think about it every few years.
tate brown
He's healing right now and you're just mocking him.
ian crossland
You know what?
tim pool
People are surprised to learn that Ian's 50?
Almost.
But it's because he drinks pee.
ian crossland
46.
kraig smith
What is piss taste like?
tate brown
Yeah, was it?
ian crossland
Like warm, salty sweat with a little more.
unidentified
A little more.
phil labonte
It's a little more warm.
ian crossland
You know what I mean?
I've never tasted it.
tate brown
Because the aroma.
There's the aroma present in the taste of it.
unidentified
Hold on.
Hold on.
tim pool
This doesn't sound like a story of you accidentally one time being tricked in a sit piss.
Sounds like you do it a lot.
unidentified
Really?
tate brown
It sounds like you're a pissmolly A.
ian crossland
I may have framed.
Was he dehydrated?
tate brown
What ethnicity was in this place?
ian crossland
How yellow was it?
He didn't see the urine because it was in a solid blue plastic.
phil labonte
Have a strong odor if he was.
ian crossland
It wasn't strong.
No, I didn't smell it coming up.
Only when it was in.
tate brown
So he was hydrated.
tim pool
Ian, have you ever had a s'more?
This is delicious.
ian crossland
Yeah.
unidentified
Did he do a bottle of music?
ian crossland
I don't think so.
No, his mother's not.
tim pool
He caused him for 50 years.
ian crossland
He drinks cooks.
phil labonte
Would you drink anything your brother gave you again?
ian crossland
I don't know if you guys saw the after show with John Otto.
He was actually talking about studies that urine therapy, they call it, where people were.
tim pool
And everyone was like, you know, he had me going on this red light thing until he started talking about how he drinks his own urine, and now I'm not so sure.
ian crossland
But apparently there's antibodies in it that get lost, and a lot of it's just about the rest of the world.
tim pool
I'm a regular.
tate brown
You just run it through the system in case you missed out any nutrients.
ian crossland
I'm not trying to spread the shame.
I'm still feeling, you know, he got me.
I drank his pee.
unidentified
Did he taste it?
tim pool
Did you get revenge?
ian crossland
Yes.
One time he was peeing on the garage outside, and I was like, Max, you can't pee on the wall.
And he was like, so I grabbed his penis and made him pee in his own face.
tate brown
We were kids.
ian crossland
That's what you do.
phil labonte
Sorry, Max.
tim pool
I've never done this.
ian crossland
You never did that to Chris?
donald j trump
Where did you grow up?
tate brown
Epstein Isle?
tim pool
No, just on a farm.
ian crossland
Not really.
Close to a farm.
Suburbs, you know.
tim pool
Like, our viewer count is just dropping the more Ian talks about it.
ian crossland
It's a curse, a blessing, and a curse.
phil labonte
I don't know about the blessing part.
kraig smith
Yeah.
You can guess his penis size.
Like, be accurate with that.
unidentified
Oh, right.
Yeah.
So I grabbed his penis and made a penis over there.
tate brown
That's just a relatable childhood story, Tim.
unidentified
You know?
tate brown
Some of us had monkey bars.
ian crossland
I peed on him one time when he was really little.
Oh, it's just crazy.
He was getting me back for that when he made me drink his pee.
tate brown
And then did he respond after the de-escalated afterglet?
There was an armistice.
kraig smith
No.
ian crossland
I just knew.
tate brown
Do you see an instance where this kicks off again?
Like the ceasefire breaks.
ian crossland
No, I think we're good now.
tim pool
Can you forgive him?
tate brown
Yeah, the ceasefire.
I want him to be happy.
phil labonte
It's the way to go.
Magnanimous is the way to go.
ian crossland
Yeah, you know, spread the love.
You know, then his kids will be happier, too.
tate brown
Right.
You don't want that generational trauma.
phil labonte
So Trump.
tate brown
It ends with you.
phil labonte
Trump actually did make Christmas.
And so it's an executive order.
So it's actually new Federal Holiday.
All right.
tim pool
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kraig smith
Why would they tell us about the secret pockets?
tim pool
Well, you think you'd have to find them on your own.
kraig smith
I just want to discuss.
tim pool
Yeah, it's like a surprise.
phil labonte
It's like you're hunting your clothes.
tim pool
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Maybe you're on the phone, maybe you're driving.
Maybe you're watching the World Series of Poker Bahamas, like I wish I was.
And then you can pick it up whenever you want.
ian crossland
I got to say, those are nice.
Those are really nice.
tim pool
They're super good.
unidentified
I really like it.
tim pool
And the rain jacket, no joke.
ian crossland
I haven't worn that one yet.
I've just won the fleece.
unidentified
Very nice.
ian crossland
Very nice.
tim pool
Let's get your Rumble Rants and Super Chats.
Shannon Twilder says, Merry Christmas to all of you.
I hope you all have a blessed one filled with love and family.
You as well.
You as well.
Shlippy says, Trump is endorsing Tony Gonzalez over Brandon Herrera.
Please, for the love of God, let him know that Tony is a traitor as Rhino.
Brandon is a million times better.
Wait, wait, hold on.
Was Tony Gonzalez that guy where that lady lit herself on fire?
phil labonte
That is the one.
ian crossland
Is he the football tight end?
kraig smith
No, that's what I'm thinking of.
phil labonte
But I'm just basically the current congressman from that district.
And yes, he is the guy that was alleged to have been having an affair with the woman that set herself on fire and died because they was found set on fire.
I'm not sure if it was actually self-inflicted or not.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
A slice of reality says, Tim, you should give Ian and Phil a bonus for dealing with last night's guest whose reality detachment made Candace's Charlie Kirk conspiracies look credible.
phil labonte
It was fun.
kraig smith
Was that the guy that kept cutting you off?
tate brown
He was doing a whole lot of gish galloping.
ian crossland
Yeah, it was well.
tim pool
The booking team knew that I was doing the poker stream.
He was 17th.
ian crossland
He had been, I think, scheduled for the second for Tuesday, and he had canceled.
So he wanted to meet up with you Tuesday, but he had some other engagements, so he had to miss it.
tim pool
I thought it was pretty good, though.
ian crossland
It was pretty fun.
I think it's more stressful for the audience than anybody on the actual show itself.
Maybe you were.
I mean, you were, I saw you moments where you were chomping at it, like getting ready to go.
unidentified
And other times where you're just like, like, like, I just tried to walk in sometimes.
phil labonte
Yeah, the audience wanted us to start yelling back at him and stuff.
tate brown
You know, you know, that was my first on-camera debate.
So I do need a bit of time to sort of develop, and then I'll be yelling.
I'll be crashing out in new time.
phil labonte
That's all they wanted.
ian crossland
I hadn't prepped any of the facts that were brought up, and I'm like, I couldn't fact check everything.
tate brown
Yeah, because we were talking about like illegal immigration.
He's like, the interest rate.
And I'm like, what?
phil labonte
Well, the thing is, he wanted the, like he was, like I was saying earlier on the pre-show, like he wanted to basically just posture and tell everyone how much he hated Trump.
tim pool
I'll give you some guy's advice, like a debate tip, is when someone gish gallops, just accuse them of drinking their own urine.
ian crossland
Ooh, I smell it on you.
tim pool
Yeah, but I mean.
ian crossland
I don't want it anywhere near me.
No, thank you, sir.
tim pool
In all seriousness, this actually is a debate tactic that we were talking about the other day where Trump did that thing where he goes, I'm sorry.
Your breath is very bad.
Anyone told you that?
And he's like, it's a negotiation tactic.
kraig smith
That's an ad hominem.
tim pool
But apparently Trump was saying use it as a negotiating tactic.
So you're sitting down with a guy and he's like, look, we can't afford to pay too many.
He sits back and says, look, I'm sorry.
I got to move back.
Your breath is terrible.
ian crossland
With Brian.
I thought about you at one point.
I could have been like, hold on, hold on.
You just brought up five points.
You got to prove the first one before you move on to the second one.
I could have done that and just, but I felt like it would have put like a stick in the spokes of the wheels of the show.
So I was just like, look, man.
Just listen.
tim pool
You know, our audience is just very smart.
phil labonte
They are very smart.
tim pool
They're high Q. You know, in all seriousness, though, I hear this so often from like people in the Beltway about how everybody watches Tim Cast IRL.
And I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Everybody in high-level politics and around the political space watches the show.
That's not a lot of people.
I mean, don't get me wrong.
It's a big show.
I'm just saying the perception that people in politics have is that this is like the biggest show ever when it's not because it's the biggest show in their universe.
Or I shouldn't say biggest, but like one of the biggest shows in the political universe among the very small community of very politically active people.
ian crossland
Yeah.
I think it's a phenomenon where a lot of, I don't want to say like the leader, the thought leaders, sometimes you'll get shows where like the leaders watch that show because it's because we use two big words, you know what I'm saying?
phil labonte
Well, you can't overstate the cultural impact of the show, right?
Like people from Congress want to come here.
People from D.C., they want to come here because you reach an audience that they're trying to reach.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So I think we just have to use smaller words.
ian crossland
I agree.
phil labonte
And make more fart jokes.
No more big words.
tim pool
Next year is going to be all about fart jokes, toilet humor.
And we're going to bring back the laughter.
The soundboard.
With Brett Thunberg going, how dare you?
How dare you?
How dare you?
phil labonte
No more big words.
tate brown
How dare you, my Tucker Carl's invitation in the new year.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
ian crossland
A big word from Tate that we can put on repeat on the thing.
tim pool
No, no, we got to get like hot moments every other week.
phil labonte
Like we had Tate.
tim pool
Cheat, an election.
Cheat, an election.
tate brown
You could Cocomelon.
ian crossland
I'd be saying graphic.
tate brown
Yeah, yeah.
We should be like maximizing our Cocomelon style aesthetics.
tim pool
How funny it would be if in one year from now, it's just all toilet humor.
It barely talks about news.
The viewership is like 10X.
And politicians are like, I want to come on this.
ian crossland
That's how Trump got elected.
tate brown
We put a picture of Trump up, picture of AOC.
unidentified
Boo!
phil labonte
Actually, that'd be kind of funny.
tim pool
Just randomly search its a button and AOC appears on the screen.
unidentified
We go, ooh, bros.
tim pool
And then there's a, we just flash on the screen.
It says laugh.
It's like, laugh now.
tate brown
Yeah, I mean.
tim pool
You are having fun.
tate brown
You are enjoying the show.
unidentified
We do that.
tate brown
Like and subscribe.
Like and subscribe is like, you know, dangling some keys.
tim pool
I feel like the show is very much too hoity-toity.
unidentified
You know, it's like, if you insist upon watching the show, please click the like button.
tim pool
That's right.
Instead of being like, if you don't click the like button, I'm going to fuck you.
ian crossland
You're up.
If it was on Rumble only, not that there's no, you still have to censor yourself a little bit.
Like, you can't say things that would be construed as illegal, but I'd be fucking flying if we were on, like, a non-censored.
unidentified
For me, I say crazy stuff on my show.
tim pool
On YouTube?
kraig smith
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, like, what do you say?
kraig smith
What do you say?
tim pool
What do you say?
kraig smith
It just depends on how I feel.
My show is all about jokes, so I don't have no, you know.
tim pool
What if you feel real good?
kraig smith
I mean, then I'm going to say some real good shit.
You know what I mean?
tim pool
I like that.
You know, upbeat.
Everybody's happy.
Ian's drinking his own piss.
phil labonte
I'm open to that, actually.
tate brown
Bottoms up.
ian crossland
Yeah, John Otto convinced me.
tate brown
On the after-show, could we piss in my mouth?
phil labonte
Tomorrow night, end of the year show, Ian drinks at least a shot glass of urine.
ian crossland
Real talk?
I have to pee right now, and I have a cup right here.
tate brown
Will you drink your own pee on the after-show?
It's our last after-show of the news.
phil labonte
You're going to go pee on your nose.
ian crossland
Tim got nervous because he thought I'd say yes.
kraig smith
You want to drink my piss.
tate brown
No, not you.
ian crossland
I don't think we're supposed to drink each other's after.
phil labonte
After show tomorrow, the last after-show of the year.
tate brown
There is something this is the last after-show of the year, so this needs to get done.
phil labonte
Stick around.
Ian's going to drink his pee tonight.
ian crossland
We'll neither confirm nor deny that fact.
tim pool
NNY says it's really unsightly that Phil was left to deal with a golem golem conjured by bad Reddit takes while Tim plays cards.
Tis, tis, tempting.
tate brown
That is just not nice to say about me.
I mean, I'm like, you know, I try my best, but I killed it yesterday.
tim pool
Liv's pro, but she was running so hot and she played very well.
But I played, I won two hands the whole night and sold.
ian crossland
I haven't even heard the story yet.
What happened?
I haven't heard the story of your tournament or seen the show or anything.
tim pool
I don't know why everyone keeps saying tournament.
It's like people are all mentally retarded.
ian crossland
I thought it was a powerful tour.
tim pool
Literally, every single person is retarded.
ian crossland
It was an exhibition?
tim pool
It was a cash game.
A single poker game.
Did the lines go up?
No matter how many.
No.
It's a cash game.
ian crossland
Could you rebuy?
tim pool
Yes.
I didn't have to.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
I'm a winner.
ian crossland
How many rebuys did you get?
unidentified
What do you mean?
tim pool
It's a cash game.
ian crossland
Well, then the guy with unlimited money would win every game.
tim pool
You can only buy in for 5K.
Yes.
Yeah.
And I think one dude bought in like 15K and kept losing.
King Cap.
phil labonte
Shame on it.
tim pool
I think he was a second.
Was he second lowest?
He might have been third lowest.
He was funny, though.
phil labonte
He was a good player.
He did buy in three times.
unidentified
Who was it?
tim pool
King Cap.
unidentified
Oh.
tim pool
Yeah, he was a funny guy.
It was him.
Him and Jerry were real funny guys.
ian crossland
Nikki Limo was on it.
I've been in the day.
tim pool
She got crushed.
The thing was that Haley, she's really good and doesn't care if she loses like 20 grand.
So I just played the hands that I could play.
And I had people saying, like, Tim, you didn't even play.
I'm like, bro, give me anything to play.
I played 5-6 suited.
Early position.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Because I wasn't trying to play nitty, but I didn't have anything.
I'm like, you want to play King 3 offsuit?
I'm not playing that.
ian crossland
Right.
We were talking about because you want to be entertaining.
You're doing a show.
It's not just about winning.
tim pool
You know, but I wanted to play well.
So I didn't want to just sit there.
So, and one instance, my favorite hand of the night, I folded because people don't know what good poker is.
I had 9-10 suited under the gun, which is a very loose open.
And so, but I'm like, I don't want to sit here all night not playing.
So I got 9-10.
I'll play it.
We'll see what happens.
And then I think what happens, it calls around like four or five players.
Actually, I think it was like six players.
The flop comes out 9-2-5 with two hearts, 2-5.
And so I got top pair with a flush redraw, which is really strong.
And then I bet 140.
And then Haley bets 500 right away because I knew exactly what she was doing.
She had five deuce.
She had two pair.
And then I think it folds to Liv, who raises to $1,600.
And I'm like, she's obviously got a set.
Fold.
And the announcer's like, a huge fold from Poole because, yeah, giving up top pair with a flush redraw, I could have won.
But she hit a boat and I would have lost.
And folding was the right move.
I was way behind.
Two pairs to my left and a set to my right.
I was behind.
But technically, I was 30% with that money in the pot, so I could have gone for it and I would have lost.
But I thought it was a good move.
tate brown
It looks like the police have done a press conference and they've identified the shooter now.
unidentified
Oh, all right.
tim pool
Let's get it.
tate brown
Here we go.
oscar perez-jr
An individual was identified as Claudio Neves Valenti, date of birth, and he was a 48-year-old man.
tim pool
He sounds brown.
oscar perez-jr
He was a brown student.
He was a brown student.
And his last known address was in Miami, Florida.
kraig smith
Whoa.
oscar perez-jr
And I will tell you that he took his own life tonight.
We have members of the Province Police Department up in Salem, New Hampshire.
And we also have the BCI unit.
Obviously, the FBI and their evidence recovery unit is up there.
So the process is being conducted as we speak.
And it goes without saying that I would like to personally thank the efforts again of the Province Police Department, the Rhode Island State Police, the Rhode Island Attorney General, the FBI, the ATF, HSI, the U.S. Marshals, IRS, DEA, Secret Service.
tate brown
All right, so we know he was a Brown student.
Now, did he attend Brown University?
That's the question.
I still don't know.
He was a Portuguese national.
tim pool
So it was a legal permanent resident.
kraig smith
Was his English good enough to lead a press conference?
ian crossland
That guy?
oscar perez-jr
You go straight to jail.
ian crossland
That man, you go also straight to jail.
tim pool
That man, he is dead.
tate brown
That man, he died.
unidentified
Yeah, hey, he made a dynamic accent.
ian crossland
He's brown.
tim pool
Remember when Shane Gillis got fired because he did an Asian accent or whatever?
ian crossland
Yeah.
tate brown
And it was a good one, too.
tim pool
It was, too.
And as an Asian man myself, my heart was warmed that he was including me.
And then they fired him because they were racist.
ian crossland
That would sound unfortunate.
tate brown
Tim Cast viewers don't know.
Tim sounds like he puts this accent on for the show, but he actually sounds like that when the cameras are off.
It's really strange, but he's professional.
He's professional.
tim pool
Yeah, this is an affectation.
I studied very, very hard to be able to speak proper English.
I talk correctly.
tate brown
It's true.
ian crossland
If you ever wonder why.
tim pool
Behind the scenes, if you watch the uncensored portion of the show on rumble.com slash Timcast IRL.
phil labonte
What are you doing?
ian crossland
If you ever think Tim seems stressed on camera, it's because he's trying to do that goofy accent, his American accent.
tim pool
It drains my focus.
Normally I can do like 16-digit divided by like decimals, just boom, out my head instantly, but constantly focusing and struggling to talk all good.
phil labonte
When he's off camera and he gets mad, he just starts talking in binary.
tate brown
It's really something to see.
ian crossland
The tone.
tim pool
We got some super chats here.
We got, what does that say?
I can't read it, so small.
What is that?
Mama.
Mama Otter?
There's two M's in it.
Tim, thank you for calling out Candace.
Agree with you 100%.
I've been a TimCast member for four years, and it's moments like that I've never regretted my membership.
Well done, fine, sir.
You do you.
You have my support.
Merry Christmas.
Here's your year-end bonus.
Thank you so much.
I really do appreciate it.
Guys, the reality is like talking with Graham, too.
We lose viewers by calling her out for lying, but she's lying.
She's lying non-stop.
I'll just say it again.
According to my sources in the security, I'm saying this because I want to be very clear.
I don't want you to be misled in any way.
My sources in the security industry have confirmed to me Candace used the same security Charlie did at certain points of her career, whatever.
I don't know.
I'm not saying she's doing it right now because I don't think she is.
And she's lying and she's using weasel words like, I never employed them, right, because they were hired on her behalf or something like this.
But come on.
She worked with turning points.
Of course, she'd go to an event with the same security people.
The same exact people that she accused, like, claim we're going to these crazy meetings.
She's making it up.
And she doesn't care.
There's pictures of Brigitte McCrone from like 40 years ago.
It's a woman.
And Brigitte McCrone is like 5'4 and 110 pounds like a woman.
It's just so weird that this poor old lady got nasty plastic surgery and looks all weird.
And she goes, that's a guy.
And people eat it up.
That's crazy.
phil labonte
Candace just rolling the grifter dollars.
tim pool
It's really obvious, though.
Did you guys see that thing she did where she was like, if you want to help with my security, go give me money on my website.
unidentified
Oh, God.
tim pool
And buy my book and my really awesome merch.
And I'm just like, there it is.
Slather it on.
You know, oh, no, my security quick donate to me.
phil labonte
She's making that money.
But, you know, a lot of people have now started to turn against her because of the whole stuff with Erica and meeting with Erica and all the stuff that she said after.
tim pool
What she did in her video, she was like, these Zionists are dangerous people and they want to kill me.
So I need your money.
And it's just like so obvious.
Well, that there are really low cognitive capability Americans.
Okay.
We call them Tylenol Americans.
And they don't understand.
So when she says the Zionists are out to get me, they go, oh, really?
phil labonte
She's tampering to people that already have a certain perspective.
They already believe that, you know, the Zionists control everything.
And those people, they're just like, all right, Candace is the one that's saying what I want to hear.
So they just go ahead and they say, all right, I'll give you money if you keep telling me what I want.
tim pool
What's a group of people that we can single out and demagogue against that will make us rich, but like won't get us canceled.
Like, I guess for Candace, it's the Jews, but I don't want to go there.
That's just meaningful.
phil labonte
Little people.
tim pool
Little people?
tate brown
I'd say we can go for the, if you look throughout media.
tim pool
Little people who want a home for the Jews.
tate brown
Right.
I think we could go like the Irish.
They control a lot of these people.
phil labonte
Yeah, yeah.
tate brown
Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly.
unidentified
Hello.
tate brown
Wake up, America.
tim pool
But when Ye came on the show, we looked up who actually ran the big banks in America, and it was a bunch of Irish guys.
tate brown
It's the Irish.
I'm telling you, it's Irish.
tim pool
It's the Irish Mafia, dude.
tate brown
I got the call.
I couldn't understand it.
It's too drunk.
It's true.
tim pool
It was in Gaelic.
No one speaks that.
It's a dead language.
And they were like, how dare you?
tate brown
Yeah.
tim pool
And they're bringing it back, though.
tate brown
That's true.
tim pool
Do your research.
Well, yeah, friends, the Irish want to get me because they want a home for the Irish.
unidentified
They want all their marshmallows back from the Lucky Charles.
tim pool
And you know what?
If they get me, then I'm going to die.
So you've got to give me money.
Really, the only way to stop the Irish from taking my life is for you to give money to me.
phil labonte
Go to Timcast.com and become a member.
tim pool
And then I'll, you know, I don't know, buy gluten-free.
phil labonte
Join the Discord.
tim pool
Pizza with it.
phil labonte
Fight the Irish.
tim pool
Yeah.
kraig smith
They're looking for revenge because of the potato famine.
tate brown
Yeah, they're mad.
They don't stop talking about it.
tim pool
Did we do that?
Did we famine them?
I don't think we did.
tate brown
I wasn't around, but maybe I hold some culpability.
tim pool
Here's a funny one from an invalid.
Buffalo Bill says, Tim said he couldn't afford to make the show.
You want to watch him gamble with money you gave him.
He's going to lose.
He's not the one bleeding subscribers as he screams about Candace, and I don't like her.
Timcast IRL is up like 70,000 subscribers this month.
My other channel, the solo channel, where I made a bunch of videos about Candace, is down about 4K.
The money for the poker game, it's sponsors.
Because I'm on a channel with a million subs at the World Poker Tournament Championships.
So other companies are like, we want you to represent us, and they sponsored me.
So I don't have to actually gamble my money.
ian crossland
I have some news here about the Irish.
The potato blight was caused by a fungus-like pathogen, Phytopth Thora Infestans, which did come from the Americas.
tim pool
We said it there.
We said it there on purpose.
phil labonte
It'll be really funny if we're taking it back.
tim pool
It'd be really funny if 10 years from now, there's this mass movement against the Irish, and they're just like, the Irish are taking over and control our government.
tate brown
Yeah, and they're like, we need a homeland for the Irish.
It's been run over with Pakistani.
kraig smith
Will they send him to Catalina Island?
tate brown
That's an option.
phil labonte
Yeah, the Irish were in charge when Joe Biden was president, right?
Isn't he Irish?
tate brown
The Kennedys are Irish, very Irish.
ian crossland
There's a lot of Irish influence in Irish.
tim pool
Whoa, whoa, Advanced Hunter says, hey, everyone, I'm a longtime listener.
Just wanted to let everyone know I'm currently in labor and delivery awaiting the birth of my first child.
Merry Christmas.
ian crossland
Hello, Bravo.
tate brown
Welcome to the world.
We have a lot of work to do.
phil labonte
We do.
tate brown
Start reading.
tim pool
Let's hear it.
Start reading.
I love this.
I love this post right here from Buffalo Bill.
He's cognitively impaired, but it's okay.
We don't mind.
He's giving me money to complain about me.
Bro, you can call me all the names in the book as long as you're paying me to do it.
He says, Candace, 150k, Tim 17.
I don't like either, but he should have listened to Milo if he wants to fund the compound.
Bro, I would take this keyboard and I would smash every piece of equipment I had before I ever went Candace Owens' route.
She is a vile human being who lies to cognitively impaired individuals like you because you are so stupid.
You have just given me $20 that I'm going to use.
I'm going to put it on roulette just for you and gamble it.
You're giving me money to complain about me.
Bro, keep going.
Keep going.
Come on.
I'll read them all.
This is the thing about Candace and what she does.
She targets the people that are too dumb and she has no scruples.
Graham and I, as we pointed out in the show, we will lose viewers if to do what's right.
And we're proud of that.
I don't need the money.
I'm not going to brag about being the biggest podcast in the world because I'm not a retard who just does this so that you can click buttons.
I don't need it.
I will do other things for fun.
There are things in this world that need to be fixed.
There are things in this world that are broken.
Candace is the person who breaks them because she is evil.
We are the people who try to fix them.
And you, sir, are a follower of evil.
I hope one day you realize that.
But if not, just keep giving me your money because apparently you're not smart enough to recognize I like taking it from you.
phil labonte
If you give him $100, you can actually pick what he bets your $20 on to rule that.
That's true.
Go ahead and just $100 and tell him, you know, red, black, double.
tim pool
All right, all right.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says, Tim calling out King Cap over here based.
Oh, I don't know.
I thought it was really funny.
Him and Haley were just screaming at each other the whole time.
It was hilarious.
But the thing is, like, Haley plays well and crazy, and she's willing to flip off her whole stack no matter what you have.
There was one hand where I actually could have played it better, but I would have lost everything.
So I'm happy that I played the way I did.
I had Ace King under the gun, and I knew she was going to raise no matter what I did.
And she had junk.
She had 6'8.
She had junk.
But of course, she was going to because she got lucky.
She got to my left.
So I limp, 10 bucks.
She insta-raises.
It comes around.
I call the 40 bucks, miss the flop, and I'm out.
If I had raised there, she'd have re-raised me.
It would have gotten back to me, and then I would have re-raised.
She would have jammed, and then I'd either have to flip or fold, and she would have hit two-pair and beat me, and I would have lost six grand.
So you can say that I shouldn't play as king that way.
You're probably right, but the way things were running out and the way she was playing, I think I played it well.
ian crossland
Who is Haley, by the way?
tim pool
Haley Hannah.
Haley Hannah.
She plays crazy, but she's actually pretty smart how she does it.
Because every so often, you don't know when she's being crazy, or actually, she actually has it.
That's kind of the point.
My friend, smash the like button.
Share the show with everyone you know.
We got the uncensored portion of the show coming up tomorrow.
Tomorrow's going to be coming up at 10 o'clock.
Tomorrow's going to be crazy.
We've got House in Habit and Curl Kurtz coming on the morning for the Culture War show to talk about all these conspiracy theories and what Candace is on about, what she's doing.
So I'm sure it'll be contentious and all that jazz, whatever.
You can follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast.
Greg, you want to shout anything out?
kraig smith
Hey, man, buy my comedy album coming out soon.
It's called Black Underwear, The Shit You Can't See.
Purchase all my chill with his albums.
Man, thank you for having me on the show, man.
You guys are all very brilliant guys, man.
I enjoyed listening to you speak.
And if I owe you something, get it from God.
tate brown
I love that.
Well, you can follow me on X and Instagram at Realtate Brown.
Thank you guys for watching the noon live this week.
I loved hosting it from here.
It was a lot of fun.
You guys gave me some great feedback.
Today's interview with Amber Duke, where we broke down the compact article everyone's talking about.
We chatted, had a great conversation about it, and she knows her stuff.
You got to go check it out.
It's up on the Culture War channel.
So see you there.
ian crossland
You find me at Ian Crossland at all across the internet at Ian Crossland.
And also go to graphene.movie, sign up for the mailing list.
The movie I'm producing, Graphene Movie.
We went down to Rice University, interviewed some excellent scientists and groundbreaking future tech.
You're going to want to see it at graphene.movie.
Check me out there.
Phil Labonte.
phil labonte
I am Phil That Remains on Twix.
The band is all that remains.
We are going on tour next year.
Tickets are available tomorrow.
It's going to be All That Rains, Born of Osiris, and Dead Eyes.
We start April 29th in Albany and it goes through until May 23rd.
Get your tickets tomorrow.
You can check out all that remains at Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora, Spotify, YouTube, and Deezer.
Don't forget the left lane is for crime.
tim pool
We will see you all at rumble.com/slash Timcast IRL for the uncensored show.
Thanks for hanging out.
phil labonte
What's up, everybody?
This is the live after show, the Rumble Live.
We got to make it fast because Kellen's being a bitch.
tate brown
So true.
ian crossland
Snap.
Kellen, blast.
phil labonte
Kellen's like, I got to get up tomorrow.
unidentified
Make it fast.
tim pool
So we're going to go.
unidentified
What is this?
ian crossland
So we're going to jump right up.
Kellen's not here right in the car.
No, Joe Kirk.
phil labonte
He stuck his head in.
He's like, make it fast, guys.
unidentified
I gotta get up in the morning.
tate brown
I won't be in bed.
unidentified
What are you gonna do?
tate brown
It's so late at night.
phil labonte
I can't wait for Kellen to get it.
tate brown
It's 7 o'clock.
unidentified
What the freak?
tate brown
But we're friends.
phil labonte
Yeah.
I got a gun.
Fuck him.
I'll go my.
I go in my room, lock the door.
What's he gonna do?
Break in?
Bitch, I dare you.
No, I'm just kidding.
Kellen's great.
I'm totally playing.
I love Kellen.
I'm totally playing.
I think Kellen's great.
I'm kidding around.
tate brown
We love Kelly.
We love Gon.
He's the engine room, though.
He's the engine room of them guys.
phil labonte
He is.
He is.
He's one of the hearts.
tate brown
You gotta adjust for Phil.
phil labonte
He's one of the heart.
unidentified
Bitch.
Man, everybody's fucking playing with the goddamn lives.
phil labonte
I know I'm the only person strapped tonight.
tate brown
I am not armed.
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