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| Candace Owens had an absolutely massive show today with around 350,000 concurrent viewers all waiting patiently to see what she has to say about her meeting with Erica Kirk. | ||
| And it did not go well. | ||
| I mean, well, if you're talking metrics and having a big show. | ||
| Congratulations, Candace. | ||
| You've done very, very well for yourself with this massive show. | ||
| But holy crap, the chat was exploding, calling her sellout. | ||
| Some people are actually claiming she's a clone. | ||
| That when she went into this meeting with Erica, they captured her, cloned her, and they've replaced her now because Candace is walking things back, insinuating that Tyler Robinson may actually be the killer, that Charlie didn't mean that they are trying to kill me. | ||
| He meant the left was trying to kill him, which, yeah, everyone kind of thought. | ||
| And with this backtracking, she is now getting roasted by commenters on Axe, former audience. | ||
| They're claiming she's betrayed them and she got the call. | ||
| Indeed. | ||
| So we're talking about that. | ||
| There is a lot of really big news, however. | ||
| Donald Trump just sanctioned all oil, basically coming out of Venezuela, which is a massive move. | ||
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| There is a student who seems to have been scrubbed from a whole bunch of these university websites, but they put out a statement saying, this is not the guy. | ||
| Stop blaming him just because he took his name down, but people are wondering why his name got taken down in the first place. | ||
| So we'll talk about that. | ||
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| Phil. | ||
| Hello, everybody. | ||
| My name is Phil Labonte. | ||
| I'm the lead singer of the Heavy Metal and All That Remains. | ||
| I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary. | ||
| Let's get into it. | ||
| We got this tweet first off from Colin Rugg. | ||
| He says, Candace Owens says her meeting with Erica Kirk was productive and says she is very happy that we are on much better feet. | ||
| Many of her super chatters were not happy with her throughout the show as she shared details about her meeting with Erica. | ||
| Despite the productive meeting, Owen said she still felt there were shady characters at TPUSA. | ||
| Toward the end of her show, Owens addressed some of the negative comments and accused the chet of being botted. | ||
| Take a look at this. | ||
| One chat says, people may call this dumb, but Candace looking to the right too much. | ||
| Mikey, phone call doesn't add up with her timeline. | ||
| And WTF, are you putting the plane debunking on the website, not YouTube? | ||
| One says, Fuen says, if you see this, please expose who this actor is and who funds her. | ||
| You have the green light. | ||
| One person saying, wow, this breaks my heart. | ||
| Another says, this is just a word salad. | ||
| She is rambling, sad to say, but you are not passing the vibe check. | ||
| The market is always right. | ||
| And the chat is overwhelmingly saying, you are not the same. | ||
| Oh, it gets crazier. | ||
| Candace having to tell her audience she doesn't have the goods is not going well. | ||
| Here's more. | ||
| One person says, in other words, you were wrong about everything you said. | ||
| Another person says it wasn't a plane. | ||
| It was really a flying carpet. | ||
| Candace has been set up. | ||
| These bits in the room are next level. | ||
| Another person saying, is this an apology video for Candace? | ||
| And here's where it gets real fun. | ||
| One person saying, Candace Owens has either been cloned or threatened. | ||
| She is backtracking and backsliding after her productive meeting with Erica Kirk. | ||
| It's over. | ||
| Here's one. | ||
| One person tweeting, this is super suspicious. | ||
| I think she got cloned. | ||
| They're officially promoting the new Candace. | ||
| Another individual says, we will only see a clone of Candace from December 16th onward. | ||
| It takes three months to grow a clone. | ||
| Hence why it took them until now to finally have this meeting. | ||
| She was a nice girl. | ||
| I hope her and Ye's clone still get along in the future. | ||
| I hope that's a joke. | ||
| I don't think it is. | ||
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That's my favorite one. | |
| How do you deal with this kind of psychosis with people? | ||
| You know, smile. | ||
| When you pray, which is what Candace Owens has done, when you prey emotionally on the most fringe of American society. | ||
| The most vulnerable. | ||
| The most vulnerable and the most insane and probably eventually the most violent. | ||
| This is what happens. | ||
| And, you know, we can talk about what really happened in that meeting, but Candace's audience is eating itself. | ||
| And am I wrong to say it's kind of beautiful to see it? | ||
| It really is. | ||
| I mean, I was a big Candace Owens fan, big Tucker Carlson fan. | ||
| I can't believe what I've witnessed. | ||
| The craziness, the insanity. | ||
| I mean, three months ago, we were flying through the U.S. Everything was all going right. | ||
| The Dems were completely dead. | ||
| There was never going to be, we were going to have all the power. | ||
| And then she, her, and I think Tucker also decided, let's see if we could fracture the right as much as we can with craziness. | ||
| And I just don't know. | ||
| How can anybody believe what's coming? | ||
| If I could figure out a way how to recall 50 to 60,000 books, because I have a Candace Owen blurb on the back of one of my books. | ||
| And I've been trying to figure out how to financially do it, but so far to no avail. | ||
| It's a weird space for me. | ||
| Just like it is with you, Tim. | ||
| I know, like, we know, but we know. | ||
| And I know, no. | ||
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But we know all of these people. | |
| Like, it's so crazy to me when Charlie just started doing his campus tours. | ||
| We're talking a step and repeat and two bar stools type stuff. | ||
| Me, Charlie, Candace, we were all out there on the road, driving the roads, University of Florida, oh miss, Arizona State, all over the country. | ||
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And to see what has happened, it's been a went, around 2019? | |
| Well, she was still doing stuff with Charlie and Turning Point up to like 2024. | ||
| But there's a question of, so I will say this. | ||
| I've been tweeting quite a bit about Candace because I've got sources. | ||
| Much like she likes playing these games. | ||
| Obviously, the moment I did not, I was not the first to criticize her, but I was the most vulgar. | ||
| And I think people appreciated that. | ||
| Though I do think it's fair to say, maybe I went a little too far. | ||
| That's fine. | ||
| But I immediately started having people reach out to me. | ||
| And a few things I think are really important to point out that Candace is refusing to own up to. | ||
| And she called me gay, and she called me a bitch. | ||
| And why did she do that? | ||
| Because she knows I got the goods. | ||
| If she wanted to come out and say, this is not correct, here's why it's wrong, she could. | ||
| Instead, when I said Candace worked with some of the very same people she's accused, and this is undeniable, it's so stupid that she's trying to play this game because she worked at turning point. | ||
| She worked at turning point, so duh, she had the same security as Charlie. | ||
| And she's like, I never did. | ||
| I never used the same security. | ||
| It's an obvious lie. | ||
| I also know for a fact, because I've seen the texts, she was privately telling people she hated Charlie Kirk like two months before he was murdered. | ||
| So she can't answer to these things. | ||
| She's dodged these and just said, Tim Poole's gay, he's a bitch. | ||
| Because she knew the whole time she was lying. | ||
| This is a case of wielding the one ring. | ||
| I got to be honest. | ||
| It is so tempting to put that ring on, to slide it on your finger and get 300,000 concurrent viewers, to be looking at those YouTube numbers, $10 million a year. | ||
| You just want to put the ring on. | ||
| It is a gift to use against our enemies. | ||
| No, you cannot wield it. | ||
| No one can. | ||
| And she tried. | ||
| Money means nothing in the world. | ||
| You have to have integrity. | ||
| You have to have love. | ||
| You have to care about people. | ||
| I don't care what money. | ||
| I've had millions upon millions, lost it all as a poker player, gotten it back. | ||
| I know about money. | ||
| And I've felt the power of having money. | ||
| And let me tell you something. | ||
| I've said it before in poker. | ||
| Egos will break you. | ||
| Cards will make you stay humble. | ||
| And I say the same thing in politics. | ||
| Andrew Tate has one of the best points. | ||
| It's very relatable. | ||
| I'm not trying to humble brag or whatever. | ||
| Obviously, we do well here. | ||
| But Andrew Tate made a post a while ago where he was like, being rich is just, you wake up and try and find a better steak every day. | ||
| Like it gets to a point where you can do what you want to do. | ||
| And so you're just, when you're talking to your friends, like, let's try this steakhouse. | ||
| You're just literally trying to find a good restaurant now. | ||
| As long as society holds together, yeah. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| And so we're looking for some good steakhouses while we're out here in Vegas. | ||
| Because to be honest, the point is this. | ||
| Whatever it is that Candace was chasing, it's fleeting. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| I said this. | ||
| You know, I go to Occupy Wall Street. | ||
| I do live streams. | ||
| Everybody's cheering me. | ||
| They're cheering for me. | ||
| They're praising me, saying, oh, Tim, you're so great. | ||
| And then the moment I call them out on their lies, because I'm calling everybody out, they say, Tim, changed. | ||
| And I'm like, no, I didn't. | ||
| And I was always calling people out for being liars. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| Candace going off in this ridiculous direction, chasing after people who think that it's possible to clone humans in this way, or that Egyptian planes are flying, or whatever it is she was pursuing, it's the one ring. | ||
| Sooner or later, it fails you. | ||
| It turns on you. | ||
| And now she's in trouble. | ||
| What happens? | ||
| You know, I'll put it like this. | ||
| There are certainly some people who watch this show who are probably like, what happened to you, Tim? | ||
| You know, Candace is asking the real questions and you betrayed us. | ||
| And I'm like, yeah. | ||
| You always say the same thing to me every morning. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| Maybe the shooting at our property was related to somebody who thought that we were getting the call or whatever it may be. | ||
| We've gotten threats for a long time, threats to shoot us up. | ||
| So it could be anything. | ||
| It just so happened the day after that. | ||
| Well, it was like a week or two after I'd been calling her out. | ||
| And then I really got angry that Monday. | ||
| My point is this. | ||
| It's one thing to be on the sidelines to be accused. | ||
| It's another thing to be standing in front of that entire mob where she got 300, I think she had like 350,000 concurrent viewers today. | ||
| All wondering the truth. | ||
| And she came out and basically said Erica Kirk was nice. | ||
| Tyler Robinson probably did it. | ||
| Israel probably didn't. | ||
| I got a call from their lawyers. | ||
| What happens then when they're all staring at you and you betray them? | ||
| That's going to come back to biter. | ||
| Well, go ahead. | ||
| No, the thing is, is I think it's going to come back to biter. | ||
| And hopefully, I pray that maybe it brings her back to sanity. | ||
| And maybe she doesn't get as many viewers as she loses all those crazy people, but maybe she gets real viewers back and actually puts out the truth somehow. | ||
| But I just I just think she's so like the ring. | ||
| You hit it right on those. | ||
| She's the power. | ||
| She's so addicted to it that she'll just say anything. | ||
| And I just, I loved her. | ||
| I mean, I watched her. | ||
| I just can't believe what I've witnessed. | ||
| When I said this a while ago, I went on her show when she was at the Daily Wire. | ||
| I called her a genius. | ||
| I was super impressed with how well-read she was, how quick-witted she was. | ||
| And that for her to go this direction, I said the whole time, she knows what she's doing. | ||
| Of course she does. | ||
| It's not an accident. | ||
| And I have to wonder, you know, I don't know if you guys have ever experienced something like this, but it's like, I guess you can call it like the lottery phenomenon. | ||
| A regular person, he's a plumber or whatever, he wins the $100 million, and then he blows all the money in a few months. | ||
| He buys a golden statue of himself because he didn't get to that point. | ||
| He didn't know how to manage all of that rush of power or whatever it is you get. | ||
| I think Candace leaving the Daily Wire, being unrestrained. | ||
| No one was there to tell her not to do something. | ||
| So when she's at the Daily Wire or she's at Turning Point, she maybe goes, I think Bridget McCone's a man. | ||
| And then someone goes, well, okay, but let's not go there. | ||
| And then she gets helped back because they won't do the show. | ||
| This actually happened with Daily Wire where I can't remember what it was. | ||
| She wanted something with Yay and the Daily Wire was like, we don't want to do that. | ||
| Then she tried doing the Bridget McCrone thing and they're like, no, we're taking that down because she did it and took it down. | ||
| She leaves and now she's unrestrained and she chases the dragon and there's no one holding her back. | ||
| And so she ran off the cliff. | ||
| Well, everybody needs those people in their life, right? | ||
| Like we're commentators, get it. | ||
| There are times I want to go off on things unhinged because it does. | ||
| It gets the most views, the most clicks, the most this, most that. | ||
| But you need people on your team. | ||
| You need people in your life that go, I hear what you're saying. | ||
| Have you thought about the lawsuits? | ||
| I hear what you're saying. | ||
| Have you thought about this? | ||
| Are we sure? | ||
| Do you want to put yourself in an actionable position? | ||
| Crazy, correct, correct. | ||
| For me, it's real easy. | ||
| I mean, whenever I start to say anything crazy, I get a call from Israel. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And then they just tell me what not to say. | ||
| These checks aren't going to ride themselves. | ||
| We got work to do here, fellas, today. | ||
| So we got. | ||
| There are going to be people who take it. | ||
| That's going to get clipped and they're going to be like, Tim Pulletin. | ||
| It's Israel. | ||
| Just put it on there. | ||
| Every time something happens. | ||
| Can you imagine? | ||
| Every time something happens, it's the Jews. | ||
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Everybody's saying that the attack in Australia was actually the idea. | |
| You need to understand, Mike, that it's a compliment. | ||
| They're talking about how smart the Jews are, how capable and hardworking and industrious they are. | ||
| That's really what I would always say to these people. | ||
| I'd be like, I don't understand why you think that there's this small population. | ||
| 15 million of us in the whole world. | ||
| In the whole world. | ||
| And they are so smart, so hardworking and so capable, they've taken everything over and you can't stop them. | ||
| But that is a compliment. | ||
| But yet the people who hate them the most are the most famous people that you can find right now. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So that's the thing. | ||
| That's the question that I've been asking here lately is why, because this is what Candace says, right? | ||
| I'm just asking questions. | ||
| So I'm just asking a question. | ||
| How is it that we have, you know, you just said it, 350,000, but even before the Trump administration took over, she was killing it on YouTube, all this other stuff. | ||
| You faced mass censorship. | ||
| We all did. | ||
| Explain to me how YouTube in federal, in front of Congress admits that they were actively censoring and or deplatforming conservative voices and dissenting voices, but you have certain people and you can insert whoever person you think I'm talking about here besides just Candace. | ||
| Certain people explode. | ||
| Certain people grow. | ||
| Certain people are allowed to say what they want to say or allowed to do this on YouTube. | ||
| It makes me question those very people that claim that they're on the same side that we are. | ||
| I mean, I agree with you because like every time I talked about, because I wholeheartedly believe this 2020 election was stolen. | ||
| And every time I brought that up or I talked about the vaccine being very bad, boom, strike, strike. | ||
| You can't say that or we're taking your, one more strike and we're taking you down. | ||
| That's how bad it was with YouTube. | ||
| And then, and like what, like Tim just said, how is she able to just go out there and just the Jews, the Jews, the Jews, and no strikes. | ||
| But my favorite thing is she literally says in her show, if you criticize Israel, you get censored. | ||
| And I'm like, aren't you bragging about being number one, about having this massive census? | ||
| Where's the censorship? | ||
| You know what I do think, though? | ||
| I do think that it's not just the conspiracy audience. | ||
| I think she's getting a good international audience. | ||
| And you think about how many people around the world don't like Israel. | ||
| There's a lot of countries that don't like Israel. | ||
| They've always hated us. | ||
| So it's nothing new. | ||
| So I think about this shift. | ||
| You mentioned it. | ||
| Let me pull this tweet up, actually. | ||
| This is interesting. | ||
| We've got this post here from Mario Noffel from December 13th, Tucker. | ||
| Letting people talk a lot reveals who they are. | ||
| Well, it's not so much about what Tucker said, but the response here from Terrible Timmy, who says, Red-faced Tucker is a clone. | ||
| Same exact time they replaced Candace Owens with the cloned mouthpiece of the left we see everywhere. | ||
| Now she's either a clone or the worst mother I have ever seen. | ||
| No new mother instantly brings hate and judgment to the new family. | ||
| Now, the funny thing is, it sounds like this guy is actually critical of Candace and Tucker and still thinks they're clones. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But there's an interesting, as crazy as it is, there's a much easier explanation, but there's a reason why people think this. | ||
| Tucker seems to have flipped on a dime. | ||
| There's this viral video. | ||
| Makes no sense. | ||
| A montage of Tucker saying things like, I don't know who that guy is. | ||
| Who is he? | ||
| And then it shows another clip of him sitting down and interviewing the guy, Tommy Robinson being a great example of him like, who's Tommy? | ||
| I don't even know anything about him. | ||
| And then there's him interviewing Tommy Robinson saying, thank you for your work. | ||
| It's really talking about. | ||
| Two or three other people. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| He doesn't forget. | ||
| He's smart. | ||
| He knows what he's doing. | ||
| There is an interesting question of what changed in these people's lives. | ||
| Now, I'll say this of Tucker. | ||
| He's allowed to have his opinions. | ||
| And I don't think he said anything that's outside the realm of reality. | ||
| It's just a different political worldview that he's adopted over the past couple of years. | ||
| And that's why I've defended his right to do his show. | ||
| He can say whatever he wants. | ||
| Candace, however, is off in Wally World saying, who knows what whack-alone stuff. | ||
| The question is, what made so many prominent conservatives just flip? | ||
| And flip to watching what Candace is saying. | ||
| It was the death of Charlie Kirk. | ||
| It wasn't what went mad, man. | ||
| Well, I thought the death of Charlie Kirk was after the first week, the whole world was on our side. | ||
| I'm like, this could be the greatest thing. | ||
| Nothing could be great. | ||
| Losing Charlie is like a nightmare, the worst thing ever. | ||
| But for the world, it felt like the world was coming together. | ||
| People were going to become more religious. | ||
| And we had it. | ||
| It was all coming together until Candace society got ruined for two weeks. | ||
| We had it for two weeks. | ||
| We had it for two weeks. | ||
| Charlie was keeping a lot of crazy people at bay. | ||
| Everybody that's in this business, it's in this industry, we all know it. | ||
| We all know it. | ||
| We're not supposed to say it. | ||
| Tim, I told you I was going to say it here on the show. | ||
| We're not supposed to say it. | ||
| We're not supposed to say that 99.7% of everybody that you listen to and that you watch, they're not those people when the cameras are off. | ||
| They're not supposed to say that. | ||
| So Charlie Kirk was keeping a lot of these people at bay. | ||
| And Charlie, love you to death, my brother. | ||
| Wish you were still here. | ||
| Charlie was keeping these people at bay because he knew that showing solidarity to the American people was good for the mission and for the base. | ||
| And then when Charlie died, here's the truth. | ||
| Millions and millions of dollars were left on the table from his show. | ||
| All these people saw opportunities to jump in and become the next people, take over these things. | ||
| So what do you do? | ||
| Do you go the easy route? | ||
| Or excuse me, do you go the hard route, which is this is a time we all need to unify? | ||
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To the CV behind turning. | |
| But that's not what it sells. | ||
| That's not what goes. | ||
| With that being said, I do want to address this one super chat from a member. | ||
| This is hard to read this moment. | ||
| Sonny GL7. | ||
| He's been a member for 42 months. | ||
| I deeply respect that. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| He said, no, Tim, you called her a C-word. | ||
| I know I said it on the show before, but I'll stop. | ||
| I won't frame it. | ||
| It's a good word to excuse. | ||
| You lost your mind attacking her. | ||
| Your opinion and position. of making it personal is lame. | ||
| I agree with her questioning. | ||
| I will say this. | ||
| Apparently on her show, she said she went a little too far in telling people to pull their donations from Turning Point USA. | ||
| And I'll respect it. | ||
| If she's going to pull things back, that is a respectable thing to do. | ||
| I think she chased after the views and the money and all of those things. | ||
| And I will admit to being in a heightened state of tension due to a shooting at my property of which, let me just say this before I get to the meat and potatoes. | ||
| She accused my brother of trying to kill me. | ||
| That being said, I do apologize for calling her a degenerate cunt. | ||
| That is unbecoming of a gentleman. | ||
| Whether or not I am mad with Candace Owens and she has said disparaging things of me, it was unbecoming. | ||
| And I accept that and I do apologize. | ||
| If we are going to have a more articulate and better reasoned world, I should not be getting heated like that and losing it. | ||
| That being said, I think it's fair to point out that after dealing with this shooting on my property, very agitated, and it was compounded by Candace received the brunt of my ire when she said, quote, the shooting that Tim Poole survived in December of 2022 was committed by his brother, and it resulted in a bunch of people posting my brother's photo, claiming my brother broke into my house and was getting shot up by security. | ||
| None of which was true, never happened. | ||
| The real story was that we had a burglary at one of our other properties, and a staff member fired at one of the guys who broke in, and they fled. | ||
| So I was very angry, but I am willing to admit that I was wrong, and I should have kept my cool. | ||
| Again, we are talking about the need for unity. | ||
| We are talking about how we need to bring things back to a world that Charlie was working towards. | ||
| And I think I'm fairly certain that if I had an outburst like that and Charlie were around, he'd have called me and said, Tim, you need to calm down. | ||
| You need to say you're sorry. | ||
| So I will tell you what I'm saying. | ||
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If he had a way to get it, he would have been back together before these midterms. | |
| He would have shut Candace down, too. | ||
| We've got to get that momentum. | ||
| We've got to get connected. | ||
| We've got to get unified and the momentum and get it back together. | ||
| Because right now, the fracture's so bad, and they're just, they're hitting us every which way. | ||
| There's time to. | ||
| And then Trump's putting out the most insane tweets. | ||
| He's going live, by the way. | ||
| We might want to, it's 6 p.m. | ||
| It's what is it, 9 p.m. Eastern? | ||
| I think it's easy to talk about Venezuela, right? | ||
| Probably. | ||
| But we knew this. | ||
| Or how great the economy is. | ||
| You knew what he put out about Venezuela. | ||
| You knew it was all about the oil, right? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| A blind person knows that. | ||
| Like, I've been trying to say, if you want, if you really, and I'm a big Trump supporter, if you really want to get the drugs out of the country, you'd be bombing the cartels in Mexico. | ||
| And they wouldn't do anything about it. | ||
| But you saw what the president said, who was hand-picked because they killed 20 other people when she was running. | ||
| She says, no, no, no, no American troops could come because they know, right? | ||
| They know. | ||
| So listen, if you want to say it's about drugs, Donald Trump, go get the cartels and I'll be right behind you. | ||
| I'm hoping, I don't, you know, I respect Tucker. | ||
| I like Tucker a lot. | ||
| I've been a big fan of his for a long time. | ||
| I don't I do think it's fair to point out, agreed, that he's his political views have changed quite a bit. | ||
| And I do think it's fair to point out that there's this viral video where he's acting like several people he's actually met and interviewed, he doesn't know. | ||
| Now, I don't understand that. | ||
| I don't think he's afraid to talk about those things. | ||
| I'm sure he'd answer if someone asked him about it. | ||
| I'm just wondering why so many people seem to have changed their opinion and gone in this direction. | ||
| My personal view is not that Cutter is handing out checks. | ||
| It's always the simple answer to be like, you are paid. | ||
| No, I think it's real easy. | ||
| I think somebody logged onto their show, said something like, maybe it's a genocide. | ||
| Boom, they gained 10,000 new subscribers. | ||
| And they went, ooh, I get a lot of subscribers for this. | ||
| And also the TikTok, the whole thing. | ||
| Because that's what sells. | ||
| Genocide, genocide, genocide. | ||
| That's what sells. | ||
| When I talk bad about Candace Owens and things like that, or I challenge Candace, right? | ||
| Don't talk bad, right? | ||
| Even though she deserves it. | ||
| But you use the same logic. | ||
| Don't you think it's weird that Candace did this? | ||
| Don't you think the way she said it, don't you think that's weird? | ||
| Tucker, same way. | ||
| Don't you think all this and that? | ||
| We lose. | ||
| We lose money. | ||
| We lose subscribers. | ||
| We lose money. | ||
| The only people that are making money more money than they were last year right now are the people that are all in on the Jews did it. | ||
| Trump, Trump's bought by Netanyahu. | ||
| The thing is, the thing that's really important here is you could hate Bibi Netanyahu. | ||
| You could hate the Israelit government. | ||
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| Okay. | ||
| Listen, I like Bibi Netanyahu, but there's a lot of things I don't like that he does. | ||
| But there's a big difference between Israel and Netanyahu and the Jews. | ||
| You can't just say the Jews, okay? | ||
| There's the liberal Jews that run everything that make us look, all the real Jews look bad. | ||
| I hate to say, but this is a fact. | ||
| The people that run the medias, and they're all liberal Jews. | ||
| They've never even been to Israel. | ||
| They probably don't even, they don't even know what the Sabbath is. | ||
| They just say, I'm Jewish. | ||
| My last name's Greenstein. | ||
| I got an idea. | ||
| We should play a heads-up game, 10K buy-in. | ||
| And when you win, I can title the video, Jew Takes All My Money. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Sounds good. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| People will be like, oh, they'll click it. | ||
| And then it's just a poker game. | ||
| I mean, it's just, it's what it is. | ||
| Like, I wish Candace and Tucker would go to Israel, see the sites, see, don't believe how it's running. | ||
| Oh, oh, like Candace says, oh, only the Muslims could be in this corner. | ||
| Oh, only the Jews. | ||
| That's not true. | ||
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It's all like, it's all made up lies. | |
| We have to define, though, Tim, to your point, and bravo, bravo to you, good sir, on your apology. | ||
| We have to define when we talk about, okay, it's time for us to unify to try to preserve this country for as long as possible. | ||
| Well, what are we talking about when we actually say that? | ||
| Who are we trying to unify? | ||
| Who are we trying to unify with? | ||
| Can you actually unify with people that truly believe that three months ago they started building a clone of Candace Owens to replace her on the day? | ||
| Can you really unify with the people that the only reason Candace Owens made a video last night was because there were a lot of people that made thousands and thousands of dollars all over TikTok, Instagram, everything, making videos concerned that Erica Kirk had murdered Candace during their meeting. | ||
| How do you unify with people that like this? | ||
| Oh, she's done this to these people. | ||
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Yes. | |
| That's the problem. | ||
| But I'm going to tell you how we unify. | ||
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Okay. | |
| So what did we have over the left up until Charlie's murder that they didn't have? | ||
| We didn't exclude people the way that they do. | ||
| And we were always the media, or we were always the people that told the truth, right? | ||
| We didn't make a, if we saw something that was wrong and we said we had commented on it, we'd apologize and say, you know what? | ||
| I read this. | ||
| I was wrong. | ||
| It didn't come out. | ||
| And the mainstream media was just lying fools. | ||
| And we just, we won the election because we exposed the media for what they are. | ||
| Now, what are they going to do to us? | ||
| Expose us for, because you got Candace has lost her mind and Tucker. | ||
| And then I don't know. | ||
| Like, even when Ben Shapiro had the interview with Megan Kelly, Megan's like, what? | ||
| Candace is saying that? | ||
| What? | ||
| Come on, Megan. | ||
| You know what's being said. | ||
| You're not saying that. | ||
| Megan knows exactly. | ||
| And I love Megan Kelly. | ||
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I do too, because she knows. | |
| She knows she wanted to separate herself from them, but she didn't. | ||
| I feel the same way. | ||
| And this also breaks my heart in that Megan Kelly acting like she didn't know what Candace was saying. | ||
| It was just because I think, look, there are a lot of people that were very critical of Candace well before I lost my mind over her and things she was saying on her show. | ||
| And so they deserve a lot more credit than I. | ||
| I mean, I think Crowder was one of the first, if not the first. | ||
| He called her a naughty word over the things she was saying. | ||
| And then he even put out this video from the Daily Wire. | ||
| He was like, I'm not here to take sides. | ||
| Like, this is news. | ||
| But I suppose it's heartbreaking when people are so scared because her audience is so massive. | ||
| They fear what will happen to you. | ||
| Megan doesn't want to come out and say, you're right. | ||
| Candace shouldn't be saying these things because she knows there's an overlap between her audience and Candace's audience. | ||
| And Candace is going to win that fight. | ||
| But here's where we talk about the truth, right? | ||
| We won the election because we told the truth. | ||
| If we sit there and are afraid to tell the truth about what's really going on, then we end up like them. | ||
| And then now their media becomes, well, look, why are you calling our media corrupt? | ||
| Look what you guys are saying. | ||
| You see what I'm trying to say? | ||
| That's why we need to unite. | ||
| Well, there was probably three or four true, solid things that had to happen for us to win the election in November of 2020. | ||
| Oh, absolutely. | ||
| I mean, yes, we had to put their crazy on blast and we had to put the truth in the city. | ||
| And Trump had to turn his head for a split second. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| An act of God happened in front of us live in Butler. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| We also had Charlie Kirk and we had Turning Point USA. | ||
| And honestly, then the other part was we had people who had either been known left or center left that it had finally gotten bad enough. | ||
| Well, when they went after Trump to try to bankrupt them, put him in jail for life. | ||
| And everybody, like when we talk about how crazy Candace has gone, like everybody knew that it was all political, that the Biden DOJ was trying to put him in jail for life so he doesn't get power. | ||
| So and everybody, and so we were able to prove it basically with our voices that what the left was doing. | ||
| And now when you have this craziness back and forth, that's why we're fractured and that's why we have to get back together. | ||
| Let's start here. | ||
| I want to ask you a question, Graham. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Do you want to quit political commentary and get out of this space? | ||
| I mean to put you on the spot because I've already talked about it, how the violence is getting extreme. | ||
| We just had a shooting at my property. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And it's particularly terrifying, especially I just had a kid. | ||
| And so the questions we're handling now, I appreciate it. | ||
| However, when we get these death threats after Charlie is killed, people are posting Tim Poole. | ||
| They're posting not just me, but like the ones my secret team is seeing. | ||
| We get emails threatening to come shoot the place up. | ||
| And then sure enough, it happens. | ||
| There are a lot of people behind the scenes that are basically saying it might be getting much too hot right now. | ||
| I'm curious where you're at in this point. | ||
| Well, we actually did a show about your show basically, you know, affirming everything that you were saying because we get the same things on our side as well. | ||
| Oh, that's a tough one to go. | ||
| All right. | ||
| I'm going to give the real answer here. | ||
| If I didn't get into this thinking, when I was in the Army for 12 years, I went into that thinking, okay, I'm putting myself in harm's way. | ||
| Never did I think that my family could suffer from it. | ||
| When I started running my mouth about things that I saw that were wrong about everything, never did I imagine that, I mean, here's the real truth right now. | ||
| If I look directly into the camera, like my kids can't go to normal schools, like to, for the rest of their lives, like they cannot go to normal schools. | ||
| We have to hide, just like you, we have to hide where our location is at. | ||
| We're in unmarked buildings, all this other kind of stuff. | ||
| Wishes of sodomy and rape on my daughters and things like this. | ||
| Like, I mean, like, and then, and then when I question Candace, they know that they can't bother me. | ||
| So then my wife starts getting all the phone calls. | ||
| She starts getting all the DMs. | ||
| She starts getting all everything, trying to come after me through them. | ||
| Do I want to quit? | ||
| It does bother me on a level of what we talked about earlier, where so many of these people that are behind the mic, they are fake. | ||
| And I know a lot of people will probably say, well, Graham, you're fake. | ||
| You're the biggest grifter. | ||
| I'll put my bank account against anybody else's bank account, and we'll see who's actually taking money from who when it's all said and done. | ||
| But it is that part where people are disingenuous. | ||
| They're not real in their faith and their beliefs. | ||
| And then, yeah, the real life problems that we're facing to where, yeah, people want to kill us simply for questioning Candace Owens. | ||
| So the very people that are saying that we have changed and we've turned our back, you, me, and so many others have been taking arrows for making a stand that wasn't popular for so long. | ||
| We didn't change. | ||
| We're certainly not doing it for views. | ||
| No, we're losing it by doing this. | ||
| We're doing it because we believe it to be true. | ||
| The people that are supporting the likes of Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson, they changed. | ||
| They changed. | ||
| I'll tell you where I'm at. | ||
| I mentioned this before. | ||
| Probably what you're commenting on is that we've got prominent conservatives that are caught taking money for these ridiculous campaigns, advocating SNAP benefits to buy soda. | ||
| In what world is that a moral thing to advocate for? | ||
| Ah, but they got paid. | ||
| Advocating for foreign countries. | ||
| We are sitting here talking about what this country needs, and now you got these people taking money to promote India's trade benefits or whatever Trump's negotiating. | ||
| You've got that. | ||
| Then you've got the Candace Owens phenomenon and people like her. | ||
| And I'm sitting here thinking to myself, I get these death threats, and we've gotten them for a long time. | ||
| And we were swatted 15 times starting in 2022. | ||
| It was January, I think it was January 6th or 7th of 2022 was the first swatting. | ||
| It was rector Marjorie Taylor Greene came on. | ||
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| Well, my view is with all of the threats of violence, but also this disingenuous grifterdom, what are we going to call it, I'm sitting here asking myself, to what end do we stand strong? | ||
| And so I will answer the question as well. | ||
| I actually do not want to quit. | ||
| I love doing this every single night. | ||
| I am driven to point the finger and be like, the media is lying right there. | ||
| Here's how and why. | ||
| But it becomes an increasing challenge when there is less and less of a desire for truth or a desire for entertainment and outrage and outrage. | ||
| And so what I would say is we were talking before the show about solutions to the security issues that we're facing. | ||
| And I think we've got an amazing opportunity in front of us that I believe will happen, but we'll see. | ||
| And I'll just put it simply, like we're working with Rumble. | ||
| And I think Rumble is very serious about taking this, turning these detriments, these net negatives into net positives. | ||
| How do we solve the security problem and also make better content and do better jobs? | ||
| I think Rumble's going to make that happen. | ||
| You know, as a professional poker player, okay, what makes me so good? | ||
| And I don't study. | ||
| I don't study GTO. | ||
| Luck. | ||
| No. | ||
| I read people. | ||
| I could look at you, look at you. | ||
| I could tell if you're telling the truth or if you're a grifter or you're just, I could know who honest people are. | ||
| Every time Trump speaks, I know when he's telling the truth and when he's lying. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And listen, I don't want to keep saying bad things about Candace or Tucker, but watching people who I loved turn into something that's, that I just feel is so when you watch Candace, you just know it's ingenuous. | ||
| It's just, it's not genuine. | ||
| It's demoralizing. | ||
| It's demoralizing. | ||
| And so I see it and I read these people and I ask myself, like, come on, Tucker's very, very wealthy. | ||
| He's been in the for forever. | ||
| He's one of the smartest people in the world. | ||
| You could call out the Israeli government if you don't like it, but when he keeps saying the Jews, the Jews, the Jews, and then he says, well, I'm not anti-Semitic. | ||
| Well, when you say the Jews, the Jews, the Jews, you are anti-Semitic. | ||
| It's demoralizing. | ||
| And so, you know, one of the things that I'm doing is I launched a new channel. | ||
| YouTube gave me At Tim Poole finally after, what, 15 years or whatever? | ||
| And so I put up a vlog today of it was me and Brandon hanging out at the DeGen lounge for WPT. | ||
| And it's fun. | ||
| I want to have fun again. | ||
| I don't want to be so stressed out all the time with the concept of the world. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| Have fun. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But it's also, it's just not political confidence. | ||
| It's not fun. | ||
| You can't make it miserable. | ||
| Yeah, I think the reality, there are people, I would say this of Candace. | ||
| She loves being rich. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| She loves getting attention. | ||
| She loves being wealthy. | ||
| She married a very wealthy man, and she's doing everything she can to get those numbers up. | ||
| Man, I denied all of them from the Macron lawsuit. | ||
| I had people saying to me, like, why are you bitching about these threats to your family, Tim? | ||
| You're rich. | ||
| And I'm like, I would rather just make a humble salary and not have my family threatened. | ||
| I don't need much. | ||
| I talk about living in a van down by the river all the time. | ||
| I told my wife, I said, you know what we'll do? | ||
| If it all goes tits up, we'll get like a 500 square foot little shack in the middle of nowhere by a river. | ||
| Elon lives in an apartment probably the size of this room. | ||
| I'm going to generate electricity with a water wheel to power our house, and we'll be 500 miles away from civilization. | ||
| And she was like, she sighs because she wants it to be true, but she knows we're never actually going to move to the middle of nowhere. | ||
| We're going to keep staying in the fight. | ||
| Yeah, I put it like this. | ||
| You know, I, you know, a very religious guy, so I've prayed about it a lot. | ||
| Like, Lord, if it's time for me to put the microphone away, I'll do it. | ||
| But people keep showing up. | ||
| They keep showing up every day. | ||
| And so as long as they keep showing up and there's a fight to be had. | ||
| Here's the thing that I think you're saying, if I can stand up for a couple people real quick, stand up for people like Dan, Dan Bongino for a minute. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, not even a year ago, not even a year ago, people were begging people like me, people like Dan, and other people. | ||
| I don't want to out them because a lot of people have anonymous profiles that went to the administration. | ||
| And we did it. | ||
| You know, for those of you who don't know, we had to stop all money making. | ||
| You can't do that. | ||
| Like, you know, and when your business is you talking, it's not like you can just name a CEO to take it over and all this stuff. | ||
| We did it and we went in there. | ||
| And now I'm a Fed. | ||
| I'm a Fed. | ||
| I'm bought and paid for. | ||
| I was a Fed before. | ||
| I was in the Army for 12 years before I even did this. | ||
| So there, I'm a Fed. | ||
| But then you got Dan Bongino, who before Candace and her thing, he was getting 200,000 concurrence every day. | ||
| Every day. | ||
| And he gave it all up to go try, to try to make a difference. | ||
| Now, you can say whatever you want. | ||
| Yes, the FBI was corrupted. | ||
| Yes, it was a mess. | ||
| And it was probably set up to fail from the beginning. | ||
| But Dan Bongino is a patriot. | ||
| And I've seen the reports from Fox News that he's thinking about his future and all this other stuff. | ||
| When he comes back, I think we need a Dan Bongino to come back. | ||
| I think people are saying, oh, Dan Bongino got in and he got corrupted. | ||
| I don't believe we're a second. | ||
| I think Dan is fighting the good fight, still trying his hardest. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| I'm 100%. | ||
| But here's the thing is, what is your opinion on this? | ||
| Because the DOJ is supposed to be separate from the administration. | ||
| The FBI is supposed to be separate from the administration. | ||
| And every time, and I met Kaosh Patel, I think he's a really nice guy. | ||
| I think he's doing the good fight. | ||
| But it's always like, we got to trump Trump's agenda. | ||
| The DOJ, Pam Bonnie, brings up, well, they're blocking us from Trump's agenda. | ||
| They supposed to be saying that. | ||
| Aren't they supposed to be neutral to DOJ and the FBI? | ||
| And they come out like all about Trump's agenda, which I like that, but what's going to happen when they get the power? | ||
| Is it all going to be about Gavin Newsom? | ||
| God, please, rest the soul, don't let fucking Gavin Newsome in there. | ||
| But I'm just trying to say it. | ||
| Do you understand what I'm trying to say about keeping it separate? | ||
| If we don't stay in this fight and redouble our efforts, we're going to get President Newsome. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| I'll tell you what, I would rather have the crazy Kamala than I would Gavin Kamala. | ||
| Gavin Newsom is the most evil person in the world. | ||
| The only reason to prefer Kamala to Gavin Newsom is because it was in the hope that a Kamala Harris administration would be less coherent. | ||
| Yeah, less coherent. | ||
| Well, less coherent, but also less. | ||
| They wouldn't be able to get things done as well as Gavin Newsome. | ||
| You're right, Mike. | ||
| It is supposed to be neutral, but in the real world, like, things are so – We know Merrick Garland was working for Biden. | ||
| But when the president's agenda is what's best for the country, like truly, like, hey, finding all of these people, prosecuting them to the fullest extent of the laws, you know, hey, when international crimes are committed or high. | ||
| This is another thing that's making us look bad. | ||
| Like the cops being cops, allowing them to do what they're supposed to do. | ||
| There's been no arrest. | ||
| There's been no, they just talk, right? | ||
| And it makes us look like idiots, right? | ||
| Yeah, well, I've never been a Pam Bondi fan. | ||
| I never was going in. | ||
| I'm not now. | ||
| I never liked the Pam Bondi pick. | ||
| I never, really loved it. | ||
| I think everyone agrees that Pam Bondi in her first two weeks with that whole Epstein binder stuff, I mean, everyone, everyone agrees that that was the most massive, massive PR mistake that could have ever happened. | ||
| Ever. | ||
| And honestly, there's a lot of innocent creators or influencers or pundits, however you want to call them, that got caught in a situation they didn't even realize they were getting caught into during that. | ||
| They were there to meet a lot of the cabinet-level officials. | ||
| Pam Bondi walks in kind of last minute, throws them all these binders, and then they go walk outside where they think the press aren't supposed to be. | ||
| But then the press aren't there. | ||
| There were a lot of people there that got caught in a situation where they were. | ||
| One of the things about the Epstein thing, right, is I know for 1 million percent sure that Trump had nothing to do with Epstein. | ||
| He blocked him out in 2003. | ||
| If they had anything on Trump with Epstein, they wouldn't have bankrupted him, tried to put him in jail for life, did all the things they put up. | ||
| They have nothing to do, okay? | ||
| But when Trump says a lot of innocent people are going to get hurt, and then they get mad, well, who cares about innocent people getting hurt? | ||
| They're pedophiles, right? | ||
| But you got to remember, like, people like Prince Andrews, the royals, people that put Mohammed bin Salman, like very powerful people, like these are people that give the United States billions and billions of dollars. | ||
| And if they see their name on there one time on a plate, you see what I'm saying? | ||
| And that's what he's trying to block. | ||
| Let me pull up this story. | ||
| We got this from Fox News. | ||
| Deputy FBI Director Dan Bongino to decide about Future Bureau in coming weeks. | ||
| Sources say, so they're not going so far, this article say that he is quitting. | ||
| And they've been floating this story a lot. | ||
| It's been denied every single time. | ||
| I think cash comes out. | ||
| He's like, this is not true. | ||
| Dan's not going anywhere. | ||
| However, I'm curious, do you guys think this is like a psyop? | ||
| Like the media just keeps lying it to put pressure on Dan? | ||
| Or is the reality that Dan actually is considering quitting the FBI? | ||
| I think if he was actually considering leaving, I think that you would hear something. | ||
| I would think you'd hear something from someone other than the media. | ||
| You hear more rumblings on X or whatever, but I don't think that the media has any kind of legitimacy. | ||
| Like a source close to somebody that saw Dan's complaint that he was getting exhausted at the job says that he's thinking it was like, man, this is getting, I don't know if I can keep doing this. | ||
| I mean, I'm sure he said stuff like that. | ||
| The thing is, they don't say the sources. | ||
| And even though the Trump administration is a better administration than we've had in the past, there are plenty of people in Washington, D.C. that don't like this administration and love to leak bad information to the media. | ||
| If he does leave, my rumble stock will go straight up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If I can try to attempt to put my mind in the mind of Dan Bongino, I would say this. | ||
| I think that there's no way he's not seeing this fracture that is happening. | ||
| I think that Dan's a genius at what he does. | ||
| I think he knows that we are headed for a massive bloodbath in the midterms right now. | ||
| If I'm bringing Bongino. | ||
| It's going to take a miracle to fix it, if we're being honest. | ||
| But a Dan Bongino coming back could be one of those miracles of probably six miracles we need to happen. | ||
| So if I'm Dan Bongino, I'm weighing where does Dan Bongino actually help the country the most now in this moment of time? | ||
| Because I think in March he comes up on a year that he's been there. | ||
| And so I think, Dan, I think we do need Dan. | ||
| Did you guys realize it was only two months ago that the world was praising Trump? | ||
| We had the peace deal. | ||
| The hostages were released. | ||
| There's everything where you're on top of the world. | ||
| There's two things that are going to make the real difference in the midterms. | ||
| That's where the economy is and the situation with the health care subsidies that are ending. | ||
| When people see their health care prices go through the roof, they're going to look at the Republicans and say, you've had power. | ||
| You swore you were going to repeal and replace Obamacare. | ||
| You haven't. | ||
| And then not only have you not done what you said then, you went and you let my payments triple or quadruple. | ||
| They're not going to vote for Republicans if they don't do something about this. | ||
| And I'm not saying that the ACA is good. | ||
| I'm not saying that I like it. | ||
| But if they let these prices go up the way that they're going to, people are going to look at the Republicans and say, like I said, you didn't repeal it, like you said, and then you let my premiums triple, you're out. | ||
| Well, we also. | ||
| I'd like to say real quick. | ||
| Dan Bongino coming back to a podcast, his first day, it'll be the biggest. | ||
| It'll be the biggest thing ever. | ||
| He's going to have 500 to a million people watching that moment. | ||
| When he comes out and he says, here's what happened when I was at the FBI and why I'm not there anymore. | ||
| Yeah, breaking my silence. | ||
| I think we also have to take some responsibility. | ||
| Tim, I don't want to speak for you here, but I know me. | ||
| I know me, and I've had this conversation at the White House. | ||
| People that do what we do, we have to take a little bit, no, not a little bit, a whole lot of responsibility for the fact we sold the American people that if we win this election, everything's going to be fixed. | ||
| And we didn't do a good job because we have to remember 99. | ||
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Not even a year yet. | |
| 99% of Americans don't pay attention to this stuff like we do. | ||
| They don't know how it works like we do. | ||
| And I do. | ||
| I think a majority of Americans really, really, really, really believed that within 90 days, like the whole world was going to be fixed. | ||
| And so now we have a three-headed monster facing us in the midterms right now. | ||
| One, we've got former allies or former people that are trying to burn it all down. | ||
| You can insert who you want to in that statement. | ||
| Two, we've got to turn. | ||
| You saw it in Nashville the other day. | ||
| We've got R plus 22 districts that are really Trump plus 22 districts, and we've got to do our best to turn them from Trump plus 22 to R plus 10s, maybe. | ||
| And then we have a messaging issue where we've got to show the American people, hey, I know it's not feeling better yet. | ||
| Yeah, gas prices, or excuse me, egg prices were $2 when Trump's first administration, but then they went to nine. | ||
| Now they're $6.50. | ||
| It is starting to work, but it's going to take some time. | ||
| Oil prices, I mean, he's got it way down. | ||
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What, $50? | |
| Yes. | ||
| And then last but not least, we don't have Charlie Kirk anymore. | ||
| And that is a major hurdle. | ||
| And that's not me talking bad about the turning point or anything like that. | ||
| We need somebody. | ||
| You're trying to tell me that. | ||
| Charlie's not here that care about our movement. | ||
| There's not one person that could get in. | ||
| There'll never be another Charlie. | ||
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Yeah, that would be a death sentence. | |
| But there has to be somebody. | ||
| There's one person that's going to be there. | ||
| But there has to be one or two. | ||
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Look what they're doing to Erica. | |
| When they said, when Erica said, I'm the CEO of Turning Point now, I expected her to grieve for a month and her to get on the, be on that podcast, pushing everything. | ||
| That's what I was expecting. | ||
| I think they'd crucify her if she had done that. | ||
| And I agree. | ||
| I think she, I don't think. | ||
| I don't think Erica could win no matter what she did. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| She's not Charlie. | ||
| She's not Charlie. | ||
| No one's ever going to be Charlie. | ||
| Blake is not Charlie and Andrew's not Charlie and Jack is not Charlie. | ||
| And Jack is fantastic. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But Charlie, man, that guy hit the nail on the head with the hammer. | ||
| I mean, he had a bra. | ||
| I've never seen somebody so smart. | ||
| He knew exactly. | ||
| He would take in every liberal's question, think it through his head real quick. | ||
| And I've never seen anybody that knew the answers. | ||
| Like he would quote every part of scriptures, a part of the Bible, everything. | ||
| And he knew it all. | ||
| Like how it's amazing. | ||
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He was really a smart guy. | |
| But more importantly, his diplomacy. | ||
| You know, this is a question that we've asked just today, but people have been asking since he was assassinated. | ||
| Was he holding the right together? | ||
| I think the text messages that we saw where he was saying things like, I may leave the pro-Israel, they're forcing me to leave the pro-Israel cause. | ||
| This is an example of being diplomatic. | ||
| There were messages where he was critical of Ben Shapiro. | ||
| If you've got two people that are fighting and you're the intermediary, you don't go to them, one person, and say, you're wrong about the other guy. | ||
| Stop yelling at him. | ||
| You go to them and say, I totally get what you're saying about the other guy. | ||
| Let's just try and keep the peace. | ||
| And so he kept everybody within that sphere by being nice to them, by respecting them. | ||
| And now that he's gone, there's no one holding back the infighting, the vitriol. | ||
| No, I agree. | ||
| The moment they killed him all, this started going nuts. | ||
| And I thought it was going to do opposite for us because the first two weeks, the whole world was on our side. | ||
| We just talked a moment ago about quitting, about disappearing, doing other content. | ||
| And I've mentioned this before. | ||
| It's an open secret. | ||
| There are many prominent individuals in the political space, some even liberal, who are basically bowing out or have already moved to undisclosed locations. | ||
| And I always tell people, look for whose set has changed, even subtly, because people are getting really worried about this. | ||
| Charlie Kirk's assassination was a slam dunk for his killers. | ||
| There has been no negative repercussion for, if we're going to go on the official narrative that it is this Tyler Robinson guy who had a transferry boyfriend. | ||
| Let's just put it like this. | ||
| The left who celebrated his death, called for more, have faced no negative repercussions from it. | ||
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Nothing. | |
| So when we talk about the risks that we face doing shows like this, it is coming off the heels of a political assassination where they won. | ||
| Where they have put the right in disarray. | ||
| There has been no detriment to the left. | ||
| They have insulted Charlie. | ||
| They have mocked him. | ||
| And now what people need to consider in this space like where we are is they have now taken into consideration that if they kill a conservative, they will get away with it. | ||
| I believe that dramatically increases. | ||
| So it's a lot of wrong university. | ||
| You think that wasn't a hit job on that Republican woman? | ||
| It looks a lot like that's what it might have been. | ||
| Young college Republican woman was killed along with one other person, and they're not they're they're not putting out video. | ||
| I mean this is ridiculous. | ||
| Yeah, very strange. | ||
| It feels like the right in general um, doesn't have like a really good message. | ||
| It's got like family and faith, which is good, apple pie and apple pie's nice, but they don't ever talk about science, like I don't ever hear them talk about science and like if you want to win, really fix the world, you need better material sciences, like you. | ||
| Well, you have. | ||
| I got to give it to you, Ian. | ||
| People love these general interest podcasts where they people talk about free energy and like hidden technologies. | ||
| Joe Rogan's going to talk about how the technology used to build the Pyramids and UFOs. | ||
| People generally are interested in new tech. | ||
| They buy it like crazy tech podcasts do really well and I agree the right doesn't have a general interest angle. | ||
| I don't think science is that. | ||
| I'll be all of this, but I get your point. | ||
| The right tends to have a family is good and taxes are too high message and so they they're not hitting that general interest field. | ||
| I do think more recently they've done a better job of it. | ||
| That's why even Joe Rogan endorses Donald Trump, but not like Democrats are doing it all the same. | ||
| At least however, Democrats are telling people what they want to hear, free money and cheaper health care. | ||
| The Democrats saw the message that we put out in 2024 about we were just the economy. | ||
| Economy, you know like like, what's his name? | ||
| Says it's the economy. | ||
| Stupid, you know. | ||
| It's just. | ||
| You've got to. | ||
| You can't. | ||
| Yeah, I feel like the left doesn't have a good message either, and it's like they're piggybacking on what we did in 2024 and then we're fractured instead of uniting the left and now it's like boom, they're hitting us at every end. | ||
| They don't have a good message. | ||
| The difference is it's the pro. | ||
| They have no message. | ||
| It's the pro and the con of our side. | ||
| Our side embraces free thinkers. | ||
| Our side embraces challenging and questioning and this, and that the left can make one phone call and they all fall in line, no matter how crazy it is, and they're all gonna just do what whoever called them told them to do. | ||
| Yeah, I gotta be asked, wouldn't it be easier if there was some shadowy political cabal that just paid you a million bucks a year? | ||
| Oh, you don't gotta worry about sponsor advertiser business, just if I left my wife tomorrow and started a relationship with Aoc and it's funny because she's out there. | ||
| All right, I would be the most famous, the most talked about and probably one of the richest commentators within 12 months. | ||
| Would you say, like if I said you know what? | ||
| It's all fake. | ||
| The Republicans are horrible. | ||
| It's terrible. | ||
| I've seen the light. | ||
| Being married to one woman, one woman only, is not the way. | ||
| I'm leaving my wife, i'm going, and me and the teeth to gum ratio Aoc, the teeth. | ||
| We're in a relationship. | ||
| I'm a Democrat now, not only that, i'm a democratic socialist. | ||
| I'd have endorses from Colgate OREO, all kinds of this stuff. | ||
| Have you ever seen the Ryan Long bit where it's uh, left and right wing podcast sponsors yeah, and the left-wing guy is like welcome to the Anti-communist or the anti-capitalist revolution brought to you by Mcdonald's. | ||
| And then it shows the uh, the conservative guy, and he's like it's brought to you by Patriot Water, Water for Patriots. | ||
| Very good bit, I mean I I think a lot of it, like, I don't want to name a name, but there's a couple of people in the poker world. | ||
| They're really famous in Hollywood, and they were liberals. | ||
| And whenever I brought up Trump, you know, don't bring up Trump. | ||
| And then after this election, I saw his wife on the plane, and she called me, and she's like, we start talking politics. | ||
| And she's like, we voted for Trump. | ||
| I'm like, well, what? | ||
| Right? | ||
| And then she told me, this is really cool. | ||
| She's like, well, when October 7th happened, it brought me back to my Jewish roots. | ||
| And I realized everybody on the left, what, that came out the next day before Israel even had a response for October 7th. | ||
| They're out in the streets hating the Jews and kill all the Jews, globalize the NDI. | ||
| And she's like, wow, I'm on the wrong side. | ||
| I think it was on this show, Daniel Nograno credited you with waking him up. | ||
| He said that he had Joe Rogan ended up bringing up on his show because the story is so amazing. | ||
| Daniel, one of the most famous poker players ever, he's in movies, said that he thought he saw the video where Trump said that Nazis were very fine people because he saw this little snippet. | ||
| And then he was like, it was not until Mike puts the phone on the table, presses play, slides over, says, watch this. | ||
| And he was like, okay, fine, I'll watch it. | ||
| He looks and he goes, oh. | ||
| And the thing is, it's also back then I was just huge Tucker fan. | ||
| I thought that he was so good for our side. | ||
| Everything he was telling was the truth. | ||
| And then Daniel said, Tucker's a racist. | ||
| I'm like, and he'd send me this clip. | ||
| I'm like, that's not the real clip. | ||
| I go, here's the real clip, right? | ||
| And I go, did you watch it? | ||
| And he would say, no, I don't watch nothing on Fox News. | ||
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Right. | |
| And that's how he used to be because that's what liberals are. | ||
| They won't listen to your side. | ||
| Like, if a liberal comes up to me, I'll listen to everything they have to say. | ||
| But if you want to say something to them, if they're stuck in their own minds, they won't listen. | ||
| And once, you know, once they break through, and I think a lot of it had to do with Elon, because Daniel had one of the first five Teslas ever made, right? | ||
| So Elon was his hero. | ||
| And so all of a sudden he's following Elon, and Elon's putting out all the accounts that I've been following for years. | ||
| And now he starts opening up. | ||
| He starts seeing these different things. | ||
| And Daniel's a smart guy. | ||
| And I don't want to say anything, but we went to war over politics in 2016. | ||
| Like we went from the closest friends to like, I'll kill you kind of crazy shit. | ||
| He hated Trump so much. | ||
| But I always knew he's just a wonderful, loving person, and he's very smart, and he'd figure it out. | ||
| And he did. | ||
| And it makes me happy. | ||
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| And it's also, you know, Trump's been getting a lot of flag for his comments on Rob Reiner, which I can understand. | ||
| It was terrible. | ||
| Rob has said nasty things about Trump and his family and accused him of crimes and all these awful things. | ||
| But have you seen James Woods' response? | ||
| And James Woods is one of my very good friends. | ||
| And when I talked about Rob Reiner a couple of years ago, you know what he said to me? | ||
| He's the kindest, most wonderful person in the world. | ||
| I try and tell him the truth about politics. | ||
| He just won't listen at all. | ||
| So I just got done with it. | ||
| But it doesn't mean that I don't love the guy. | ||
| And that's where Trump misses the mark here, right? | ||
| Somebody could hate you, and it doesn't matter. | ||
| He was killed by his own drug addict son. | ||
| Trump's message should have been, this is why I'm out to get rid of drugs. | ||
| Look what this son did to this person. | ||
| I might have not liked this person, but nobody deserves this. | ||
| And Trump could have, boom, and then he could have been looked really good at it, you know, because that's what took Rob Reiner down. | ||
| His son, a drug addict on drugs, killed his mother and father. | ||
| And Trump could have said, this is why we're attacking the drugs. | ||
| I want to pull this story up actually because it's very interesting. | ||
| Some variety. | ||
| James Woods tears up over infuriating remarks about patriot Rob Reiner. | ||
| Because you disagree with people doesn't mean you have to hate them. | ||
| And, you know, we talked about this the other day, and there were people saying, pretending to mourn for Rob Reiner, won't stop the left from trying to kill you. | ||
| Don't get me wrong. | ||
| I understand there's a lot of young leftists who are insane and want to murder all of us. | ||
| Literally just had someone cheat at a property. | ||
| But Rob Reiner made some of the greatest of American culture. | ||
| I was saying this the other day. | ||
| And Princess Bride is epic. | ||
| And when we talk about defending America, those are the movies that represent the America that we want to do. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Misery, for what's worth. | ||
| It's a brutal movie, but a few good men. | ||
| But I mean, come on, The Princess Bride. | ||
| He's also the son of Archie. | ||
| I just kind of put that together today. | ||
| You know, I've been watching some of them, because since he died, there's lots of clips going around. | ||
| And I remember when I was a young kid watching it, it's like, you couldn't, they'd throw you in jail for life if there was another architecture. | ||
| Bounce ball in the family is there in the show. | ||
| Where's the rebooted? | ||
| James Woods is like as MAGA as they come. | ||
| Yeah, nobody. | ||
| He is a huge Trump supporter. | ||
| And he appears on, I think it was Fox News. | ||
| And he was choking up because he had been good friends with Rob Reiner. | ||
| And I think the story was that he was initially not going to get cast because he was too young. | ||
| But Rob Reiner went to bat for him and helped him get his start in Hollywood and help him make a life. | ||
| And they'd been friends forever. | ||
| This is a message of we should not let politics tear us apart. | ||
| Now, don't get me wrong, the violent extremists, they're going to go to jail for being violent extremists when they break the law and they do these things. | ||
| Rob Reiner was just some doofy boomer liberal guy. | ||
| He's one of these people who has fallen into the sea of CNN slop and MSN. | ||
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| And when I looked at these people, I've met my share of older boomers who are like, I'm not a liberal, but they're liberals. | ||
| And you talk to them. | ||
| They just need to be exposed. | ||
| It's like what you were saying with people you knew. | ||
| They just need to be exposed to other people and have some pushback and have someone share with them, here's the real video, and finally break through. | ||
| So this was an opportunity for Trump to be, as I said the other day, magnanimous, not just for himself, but for James, who was also a friend of Trump's. | ||
| And the path we want to go down is we're going to bring everyone together. | ||
| And this country needs to be a left and a right that grumble at each other and then have cheeseburgers together. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, let me ask you, you used to be a Democrat liberal, correct? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| You know, when I was younger, my family, we were just, we were all default liberal, Chicago urban. | ||
| And then when I was a teenager, it was all punk rock, anarchy, but I knew what any of that actually meant. | ||
| And then in my, like from like 18, I was actually not from about 18, I was like atheist lefty. | ||
| And then I became kind of like moderate lib. | ||
| I came back to reality, started believing in God again, but was very much like, I mean, look, it was John McCain and Mitt Romney. | ||
| There's no way I was going to be anywhere near Republicans. | ||
| I didn't even know what politics was until 2015 when I was bedridden after my surgery. | ||
| And my girlfriend at the time was like, you got to pick someone for president, right? | ||
| So I fill out this questionnaire and it comes up, Trump. | ||
| And I never liked Trump. | ||
| I mean, in 2008, I went to his, I stayed at his hotel and I had to move out of it in Hawaii. | ||
| And I never liked Trump because he was, you know, he was a playboy. | ||
| He was all over the schmutt magazines. | ||
| I just thought he just, he didn't represent good, like had different marriages, different kids. | ||
| And then I'm like, really? | ||
| I have to pick this guy? | ||
| And every single thing that I believed in, I didn't know nothing. | ||
| I didn't even know what a Republican or Democrat was. | ||
| And I'm like, do you want, do you believe in open border? | ||
| No, we should have closed borders. | ||
| Do you believe in God? | ||
| Yes, I believe in God. | ||
| Do you believe that people should get free? | ||
| No, people shouldn't get free healthcare. | ||
| My dad told me when I was a kid, go to work. | ||
| You want to make it in life? | ||
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Go to work. | |
| Work hard. | ||
| But the Democrats used to have that too. | ||
| I mean, even Hillary Clinton was advocating for a border barrier, and so was Bernie Sanders. | ||
| So was Obama. | ||
| Absolutely, Obama. | ||
| Deporter in China. | ||
| Deporter-in-Chief. | ||
| And Obama, they called him, because he was very bullish on war in the Middle East. | ||
| Not a fan of that. | ||
| But the Democrats and the Republicans were very much the same thing. | ||
| Then Bernie comes in and politely knocks on the door, saying, we need to have a revolution in this country. | ||
| And then Donald Trump actually came with a battering ram. | ||
| The Democrats said, Bernie ain't getting in, and Trump forced his way in. | ||
| Well, the difference is the Democrats have the super delegates so they could control who could lose their career. | ||
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And the right. | |
| Bernie should have gotten the knowledge. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| They cheated him twice, which, you know, I get it. | ||
| For the good of the country, we can't have socialism, right? | ||
| Now, here's another thing. | ||
| Trump wanted Mamdani to win in New York, okay? | ||
| He wanted a socialist communist because now in 2028 and 20, we could run on, if you don't vote for us, the socialism is going to take over the world and the country and we're going to be gone. | ||
| The only problem and the only flaw with that is you got to let him burn it to the ground and then we're going to lose the midterms in the process. | ||
| So it's like we're sacrificing the midterms to try to crawl our way back in 2028. | ||
| But then the reality is this, and I tell my audience this all the time, we got to win in 24, we got to win in, which we did. | ||
| We got to win in 26, then we got to win in 28. | ||
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Well, we were going to win it all. | |
| Let me tell you assassinated Charles. | ||
| I've told everybody that the swamp in D.C., the system in D.C. is deeper, darker, more corrupt, more obstacles in your life. | ||
| You know how corrupt it is. | ||
| Look how quick the Doge was silenced, okay? | ||
| And I have inside information from somebody close that Pete Hesgeth was going to be removed if he wanted to do to the Defense Department what they were doing with Doge. | ||
| And then the people with all the money said, quiet that, blah, Or he's gone. | ||
| If people actually saw the accounting for the Pentagon. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| They steal billions and billions. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| So yes, yes. | ||
| But the Doge guys, I got to know the Doge guys at the Pentagon pretty well. | ||
| Some of them actually left Doge to become actual GS employees at the Pentagon to stay on, which Elon clarified, right? | ||
| Like Doge didn't actually 100% go away. | ||
| A lot of these people stayed in the things. | ||
| If the country actually knew, if I can give a shout out to Pete for a minute, if the country actually knew how the Department of Defense then was being run under Biden, I think we'd have a purge in the streets. | ||
| Like if people actually knew how on autopilot all of this stuff actually was, it's a miracle that we weren't invaded. | ||
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I'm going to ask you to ask you all a question. | |
| No, I'm serious. | ||
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Like words of miracle. | |
| I'm going to ask you all a question and I'm going to see if you really know the answer. | ||
| Do you guys believe the Elon Trump fallout was real or was staged so they could so they could stop burning down Tesla and Tesla stock and that for and he just went away from politics for six months and now they're back the investment. | ||
| Was it staged or did they really go out? | ||
| I could well the first thing I'll say is I don't know, but I can see why they would because now they're back together again and Elon just announced he's funding Republicans very heavily. | ||
| At first, I think that I think, well, I think Elon got really upset with the Big Beautiful bill and there was a lot of shit in there that was awful, that was really bad for our side. | ||
| But he had to realize, I think he had to realize you can't have it all. | ||
| And I think Trump was trying to explain this to him. | ||
| And that's where they got in the fight. | ||
| But I always felt like the Democrats win if they separate. | ||
| Everybody thinks they know politics until they actually get hit in the face with politics. | ||
| And I think Elon, granted, he had a lot more knowledge than the average person with all his defense contracts and blah, I think people think they understand politics until you get into D.C. | ||
| And then you find out, oh, I really don't know crap about politics. | ||
| And he's the richest man in the world. | ||
| And I do. | ||
| I think that there was initially probably a, you've got an unstoppable force made in an immovable object at the same time. | ||
| And they came to an impasse and it got really heated, really. | ||
| Yeah, it got nasty for a little bit, but I know that people that are close to Trump, I know this for a fact. | ||
| And they say, no matter what you say, Trump is only there because he loves his country. | ||
| He wants to help it. | ||
| He's not, yes, does he do a lot of corrupt things? | ||
| Like, do I agree with him selling Trump watches all over Fox News? | ||
| No, I think that's just stupid. | ||
| I had a reporter at the Washington Post was asking me about comments I had made. | ||
| This is funny. | ||
| Candace Owens tweeted that I was working with Wapo on a hit piece on her. | ||
| It's like, no, Washington Post were inquiring about what I literally said on my show, which was very public. | ||
| And they asked, you know, you're claiming she's doing this for clicks and views, but she's wealthy. | ||
| Why would that be the case? | ||
| And I said, why would Donald Trump be president? | ||
| Some people are not motivated by money. | ||
| They're motivated by something else. | ||
| I don't believe, you know, they come out and they say Trump is just doing this for ego. | ||
| I'm like, no way. | ||
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| Bro would be on a yacht in the Mediterranean hitting golf balls into the sea. | ||
| You know, I play poker with, I do a fundraiser with Ted Cruz every year. | ||
| We do it at Bellagio, whatever. | ||
| And we have this dinner. | ||
| When's the next one? | ||
| In April. | ||
| Maybe you can come down. | ||
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| You know, and we sit in this room with the richest donors probably in the world. | ||
| And we do this pump. | ||
| We do this poker tournament. | ||
| And Ted's a great guy, and he loves poker. | ||
| And we talk about he's like, I'm going to win in 2028. | ||
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We're going to have a poker game in the West Wing once a week, right? | |
| And I love Ted to death. | ||
| And everybody knows him and Trump in 2016, the hatred they had for each other, right? | ||
| He told me, you know, yeah, we know Trump's a narcissist and he has to have his way, whatever. | ||
| He says he's never met anybody, anybody in politics that loves his country and wants to make this country better than Donald Trump. | ||
| Now, that's a big statement. | ||
| Did you see him on Larry King where he was like, I'm sorry, I have to sit back. | ||
| Your breath smells very bad. | ||
| Does anyone ever tell you that? | ||
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Yeah, Trump said that. | |
| And then he gets somebody. | ||
| He's like, I was just kidding. | ||
| That's a debate. | ||
| That's a negotiation tactic I use. | ||
| Like, that's how he acts as president. | ||
| I wish there are a lot of people who think behind the scenes everybody's conspiring with each other. | ||
| And then it's like, you know, look, there's a lot of conspiring going on. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| It used to be this way. | ||
| The right hates it more than the left. | ||
| It used to be that you'd see a Republican on the floor, maybe it's like 15, 20 years ago, going, the Democrats are trying to do this, that, or otherwise. | ||
| And the Democrat goes on, like, I swear to God, you know, you're. | ||
| And then once the cameras are wrapped, you can see him in the background shaking hands, smiling and patting each other on the back. | ||
| And it's not like that anymore. | ||
| It is certainly not like that with whatever our generation is. | ||
| People are at each other's throats. | ||
| No, I even said, oh, Ted, listen, Schumer and Trump, like, they act like they're good friends when they're around each other. | ||
| And he says, they hate each other. | ||
| But you've seen it like when they did the roast. | ||
| What's that? | ||
| The roast that they do with the roast? | ||
| With the religious guy. | ||
| They do it before the election. | ||
| John Oliver. | ||
| No, the thing before the election that she didn't show. | ||
| Oh, the correspondence? | ||
| The correspondent. | ||
| And before the election, they act like they're friends. | ||
| They all make fun of each other, right? | ||
| And then Trump was making fun of Schumer. | ||
| He's like, oh, no, he's a real good guy. | ||
| He pats him on the back. | ||
| And so then you sort of say, oh, are they really good friends? | ||
| But Ted says, no, they're not. | ||
| No, no, I agree with that. | ||
| Well, because we're dealing with two separate, almost two separate species at this point. | ||
| But the difference between the Democrats versus actual Republicans. | ||
| We're not talking about, should we raise taxes like 2%? | ||
| No, no. | ||
| We're talking about fundamental, completely different landscapes and directions of which we want our country to go. | ||
| The reason, Matt Walsh did a good job on Tucker the other day. | ||
| If you guys didn't watch that, Matt Walsh brought this up. | ||
| The reason that all the transgender stuff and all of this, it's not gone. | ||
| Obviously, it's still there, but the reason it's not shoved in our face 24-7 is because we did push people together. | ||
| You do know it dropped like this. | ||
| 60, 70% in a six-month period. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| They couldn't make money off of it anymore. | ||
| But that is a direct response from the constant fighting against it. | ||
| 24-7, not letting up. | ||
| It's going to go down. | ||
| It's going to go down in 10, 15 years. | ||
| If we lose the midterms. | ||
| That's the most insane thing that's going to happen. | ||
| I think it goes right back up. | ||
| Yeah, I disagree with that. | ||
| I think that the idea that the right is going to win and then it's over is wrong. | ||
| It's going to be a constant thing. | ||
| To be honest with you, these ideas aren't actually new. | ||
| All the LGBT ideology and stuff. | ||
| Yeah, but they're not for the trans ideology. | ||
| The trans people, I know people in the adult industry, they just want to be left alone. | ||
| They don't want to be part of the alphabet, but what I'm talking about is the activists. | ||
| And those are the people that are driving it, right? | ||
| And a lot of people in academics, people in colleges and stuff. | ||
| These ideas have been around since the 90s or even earlier. | ||
| The first queer theory books. | ||
| I think Judith Butler wrote one of the first queer theory books in the 90s and stuff. | ||
| So this stuff has been around for 30 years. | ||
| It's not going to just go away. | ||
| These are ideas that are here to stay. | ||
| And it's a matter of making sure that we as conservatives can say, look, this stuff doesn't get into schools. | ||
| This stuff doesn't get to dominate. | ||
| That's one thing we have to win. | ||
| It doesn't dominate, doesn't dominate the culture and stuff. | ||
| If you live like that, we can make room for you in society. | ||
| We're not going to let you decide where you're, you know, that women can't have private bathrooms from trans trans women or whatever. | ||
| You said we as conservatives. | ||
| And that is already the cultural dimension. | ||
| We as people on the right. | ||
| And if there's a difference, the left go so insane that liberals become right-wing. | ||
| Now if they walk it back, they've changed what it means to be a liberal. | ||
| And so they go as crazy as to say, Bill Maher is a good example. | ||
| Oh, he's right-wing now. | ||
| I mean, he doesn't want to admit it. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But he is, he, I mean, he is, he wants to say I'm a liberal, I'm a class. | ||
| And he is. | ||
| But classroom liberals is the same as Elon. | ||
| They were here, but they haven't moved, but other things moved across. | ||
| This is the point. | ||
| Basically, they've shifted the Overton window by they went out and advocated for the craziest left-wing things, said the left means child sex changes. | ||
| Then moderates were like, I'm opposed to that. | ||
| Then you must be on the right. | ||
| Now when they walk back to, oh, you know, now that they try to actually be slightly left on a lot of issues, they're going to say, this is just the moderate liberal position now, even though it's technically, as of 20 years ago, far left. | ||
| They're going to advocate for corporate ownership by the workers like Bernie has, and they're going to claim it's moderate. | ||
| To your point about the, you've made the point that a lot of this stuff has been spread so broadly on the internet. | ||
| The way that the left and right divide is it's in the United States, it used to be we were all kind of right-leaning, right? | ||
| Even Democrats were kind of right-leaning. | ||
| Now because of the internet, you've really internationalized the right and left. | ||
| And you see people on the left in the United States, they're really more like what you would see as a European leftist, where like if you're on the right, you believe in things like property rights. | ||
| If you're on the left, you don't believe in property rights. | ||
| Well, one of the things is when they hooked up the world on the internet, you've got to realize the whole world is 50-50, right down the middle, right? | ||
| You have the 15% crazies on the left and right, and you have the 35% right here, where half of it is true on our side, half of it is true on their side, and we have to find the middle. | ||
| And that's what Charlie was so good about doing. | ||
| Finding the middle, finding common ground, okay? | ||
| The 15 over here, they're gone, right? | ||
| They're just gone. | ||
| You know, we're tasting the world doesn't care about free speech. | ||
| I mean, people want it, but the world doesn't hold it up. | ||
| And that's why we know that we're done. | ||
| No, Right is like this small group of people that want to maintain freedom of speech, gun rights, property rights, and everything else in this world is using the internet to bombard liberalism, make us think we're crazy, and make us think that you're my enemy. | ||
| But liberalism was always free speech. | ||
| That was their, they were anti-war, pro-free speech. | ||
| Now, what are they? | ||
| Pro-war, anti-free speech? | ||
| Like, like, like, if Trump said, I've cured cancer, F you, you Kurd cancer. | ||
| We want cancer back. | ||
| Everybody's pro-free speech when they're talking about the things that they're talking about. | ||
| But when you're saying that, you're saying something that they don't like, then free speech is, hey, you remember when Pam Bondi came out like three months ago? | ||
| Oh, that's hate speech. | ||
| No, there's nothing to say as hate speech. | ||
| She walked it back. | ||
| So, like, the right does the same thing trying to, when they get power, trying to get it. | ||
| Yeah, but that's what we're talking about. | ||
| Like, like, the full circle of all of this is simply this. | ||
| To your point, free speech isn't for the, you know, the, it's not there. | ||
| The First Amendment's not there for people to say things that you agree with. | ||
| And there's a lot of people that get mad at me. | ||
| And Tim, I'm sure they're mad at you. | ||
| Well, see, you're a hypocrite because you believe in free speech and all this, but yet you're attacking Candace. | ||
| I'm not attacking Candace. | ||
| I'm questioning her questions. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So, so, but that's where we are. | ||
| We're at a point where there's now factions. | ||
| All right. | ||
| You've got this belief or this belief or this belief or this belief. | ||
| And now we're all mortal enemies of each other if we question each other. | ||
| But before the 2024 election, every conspiracy that they accused us of being conspiracy theorists all came true, right? | ||
| So we ended up being shown that everything we were saying was the truth. | ||
| Everything the media was saying was a lie. | ||
| Now when we start spreading conspiracy theories like Candace and it's the Jews, it's this, it's this. | ||
| Now all of a sudden they look at, wait a minute, we thought that they were telling the truth, but look at the garbage they're spreading out. | ||
| And that's what we have to face. | ||
| The reason, and I know that people have Candace fatigue, I get it. | ||
| I see the comments here. | ||
| I see the comments on my show every day. | ||
| People ask, why? | ||
| Why are we pushing back so hard against Candace? | ||
| Well, for me, it's this. | ||
| A majority of Candace's audience is female. | ||
| It can go without saying that between the ages of 18 to 45, we have a messaging issue with female voters in this country. | ||
| The data points to it. | ||
| It is undeniable in every fact. | ||
| When you've got somebody like Candace Owens, that, yeah, you've got these majority, you know, possibly true crime. | ||
| But she could get on the side of Megan Kelly, on the side of you, and come back, and she could walk it back and say, you know what? | ||
| I don't think Candace is capable of fully walking back. | ||
| I'm just saying, if she did, if she did, she'll lose some viewers for a time, but it'll go like this and then back up. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| Because she's very good at talking. | ||
| She's very good at like, boom. | ||
| Yeah, but it's female-coded. | ||
| And they get, it's funny because when I point this out, they got really offended by it. | ||
| And I was like, women. | ||
| Because guys don't care if you're like, this show's totally for guys. | ||
| Five guys sitting around making dick jokes and drinking beer. | ||
| They're going to go, yeah. | ||
| If you say that Candace does a true crime drama emotional show, they go, what's emotional about it? | ||
| They get all angry about it. | ||
| She knows exactly what she's doing. | ||
| She says the words that get that hit the woman. | ||
| But this is the thing, right? | ||
| The tone of women. | ||
| She uses tone very articulately. | ||
| Men and women think very differently. | ||
| And I was having this conversation about Cam, I think it was Cam Higby posted that this is funny. | ||
| Cam Higby posted that Candace's subscriber and view count was the lowest point it had ever been right before Charlie Kirk's assassination. | ||
| And there's a massive spike in his viewership, in her viewership right after he's murdered. | ||
| And I was asked about this by the Washington Post, to which I said, yeah, Cam Higbee reported this. | ||
| And then Candace, you know, was like, he's claiming my audience numbers were bad, laughable, but that's not what I was saying. | ||
| What I said was, this is a male-coated argument. | ||
| If you go to a guy and they ask you what is your critique of Candace Owens, you go with, well, just before she went in this whole arc, her subscriber growth was the lowest it had ever been. | ||
| She had zero growth for the month, and her view count was lower than it had been in the previous months. | ||
| After Charlie Cook's assassination, she got a massive spike in new subscribers and viewers, and she pursued it. | ||
| That is very mathematical. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You go to a woman, she's not going to be persuaded by that. | ||
| And this is not to deride women, though many women get offended when I point this out. | ||
| The argument you make to women is that Candace Owens clearly loves Charlie. | ||
| She had been speaking about him longingly, that she was his wingman, but that he chose someone else, and she was the one advising him on his clothes. | ||
| And it very much sounds like she wanted to be with him and could not. | ||
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I'm just going to say it. | |
| Did you think, like, before she got married, she really wanted to be with Charlie and then she found error? | ||
| She makes it sound like that. | ||
| The point I'm making is it's not relatable to a woman to explain the intricacies of statistics in business motivation. | ||
| Some women, yes. | ||
| The average woman, probably not. | ||
| And that's why women watch Married Love at First Sight and what's the other one? | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| No, the Married to Strangers shows. | ||
| They like these very emotional social things. | ||
| 90 Day Fiancé. | ||
| Candace's show very much follows that line, which is why it's heavily female. | ||
| She has the Stanley mug, which is a big trend. | ||
| It's very trendy among women. | ||
| She always has a different mug up. | ||
| And her show is not like ours, where we say things like, in the midterms, we're looking at a minus four in the general battle. | ||
| I mean, very statistical. | ||
| Her show is. | ||
| I remember when Charlie texted me and he was wearing this ridiculous tie. | ||
| And I said, Charlie, you can't wear that tie, but he wanted to. | ||
| And I said, you should burn it. | ||
| But that's what it was like, you know. | ||
| And that's how women communicate. | ||
| I see the connection you're talking about. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So the point is, we're talking about how does she come back from this. | ||
| Well, I think actually, to be honest, she's not going to be able to come back politically, but among her true crime drama viewers, it'll be very easy. | ||
| Among the conspiracy audience she's cultivated, they're going to be very angry, but it's a much more male presence in the space. | ||
| When she goes back talking about Blake Lively and marital drama in Hollywood, she's fine. | ||
| That was kind of crazy, too. | ||
| The Blake Lively, what's his name? | ||
| Ryan Reynolds. | ||
| And it was weird because I had said something somewhat innocuous, like I liked Ryan Reynolds, and then people in chat started saying things like, you're taking his son on this one? | ||
| Don't you know anything about Blake Lively? | ||
| And I'm like, I don't know anything about him. | ||
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Nor do we care. | |
| No one cares. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| Back to the Candace, did Candace love Charlie thing that I've seen around? | ||
| I've actually changed my stance over this over time. | ||
| You know, Charlie himself told me how she met George in the first place and all this stuff. | ||
| They were on a trip somewhere. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| But the point was, I believe she was dating somebody at the time or it just broke up with somebody or the timelines are pretty close there. | ||
| But either way, moving on. | ||
| I don't think Candace was in love with Charlie in that way. | ||
| I think Candace was in love with what Charlie had built. | ||
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And I, I, after you're part of this, after part of this. | |
| After watching things that she said, talking about you don't get to get widowed into CEO and all this other stuff. | ||
| I believe that. | ||
| I believe Candace Owens thought, I believe Candace Owens truly believed that when Charlie died, I believed she thought she was going to get a phone call for her and George to go in there and be interim CEO and then work their way into full-time CEO of Turning Point USA to become the full, the full-fledged moving forward. | ||
| That's what I have started to believe. | ||
| She could have been if she could if she didn't go into this other, she went in this crazy way thing. | ||
| George had been, what, had a UK Turning Point UK for like two months in 2019 or something. | ||
| I don't know much about that. | ||
| Well, George also took over Parlor, too, for a while. | ||
| How does George let her? | ||
| How does he let her put out all that stuff? | ||
| How do you stop her? | ||
| Like, yeah, exactly. | ||
| Like, getting on the screen. | ||
| I mean, I'm supposed to do. | ||
| I'm imagining George is going, honey, maybe, maybe you don't. | ||
| I don't know what. | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| Listen, I loved Candace. | ||
| You know, when she was with the Blexit movement, she was like a real ally for us, right? | ||
| And I loved her. | ||
| And then, I mean, I still don't get over when Charlie died. | ||
| The world was becoming more religious. | ||
| They were all, everybody felt so bad. | ||
| And then she's like, what do you guys feel bad about? | ||
| Donald Trump killed him. | ||
| I mean, like, here's the biggest difference with Candace at risk of this getting clipped: is this. | ||
| The risk, the difference of Candace Owens is this. | ||
| Up until now, well, actually, even now, Candace has never, ever, ever, ever had to stand on her own and make her own way and take the arrows on her own without backing, support, and lawyers the entire time that she's been doing this. | ||
| She was a nobody. | ||
| She approached Charlie. | ||
| I know this because they used to tell the story. | ||
| I watched the beginning just starting. | ||
| At every Winter Gala event, they would tell the story. | ||
| The one that she just made fun of, by the way. | ||
| She and Charlie would tell the story that Charlie was at an event and Candace Owens walked up to Charlie and said, Hi, I'm Candace Owens. | ||
| I want to free the slave mind of the black community in America, blah, blah, blah, blah. | ||
| She immediately had donors, power, lawyers, all of this. | ||
| Same thing when she started her show at Prager U. | ||
| She had power, lawyers, money, all this. | ||
| Then burns those bridges, then goes to Daily Wire. | ||
| To your point, Tim, now she's got massive money, massive backing, massive lawyers, as we know the Daily Wire. | ||
| And if she loses the lawsuit to the Macron's, she ain't going to have to. | ||
| Yeah, well, now, now. | ||
| And she will lose. | ||
| But then she marries George, all right, and all this other stuff, and she's got money behind her and all this. | ||
| Now she's got all these mounting, and again, I'm just asking questions. | ||
| She's got all these mounting lawsuits. | ||
| She's got all these defamation things that are coming up. | ||
| You wonder why did she start this route? | ||
| I believe she needs money. | ||
| That's what I think. | ||
| She started down this route when she didn't get the phone call. | ||
| I think she does. | ||
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I know how she went down to the anti-where is all his company tied up into that. | |
| Do you see what the New York Post wrote about her? | ||
| Her farmer may have money, but he may be saying, like, you're on your own. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| The New York Post wrote some very unflattering things about her, but it's true, apparently. | ||
| She filed a lawsuit against a landlord in 2017 because she was so broke she couldn't pay her rent. | ||
| So she sued for $15,000, claiming that there was mold in the building that was causing. | ||
| I read that story. | ||
| Guys, this is not meant to be derisive. | ||
| It's from the New York Post article. | ||
| She filed a lawsuit because she said the mold in the building was causing systemic yeast infections. | ||
| And I guess she lost that lawsuit, is what happened. | ||
| And she had to pay $20,000. | ||
| She owed him $20,000. | ||
| Yeah, so she owed a bunch of money. | ||
| And this is not that long ago. | ||
| Now, she's had a good run of this. | ||
| I wonder if, yeah, after leaving these companies, she's not sitting on a bag. | ||
| And maybe she's like, I got to get as much as I can. | ||
| However, I will say this: the Bridget McCrone thing, she's losing that lawsuit in two seconds. | ||
| And I'm going to tell you why. | ||
| The merits don't matter. | ||
| People, you know what I love about people? | ||
| I try to explain this, and I'm sure you guys know it. | ||
| When you're running businesses, there's a lot of money involved. | ||
| Contracts are meaningless. | ||
| I know that I've been screwed over so many times. | ||
| And people think that there's this movie trope where someone will sign the contract and they'll go, aha, I have a secret clause sitting there that says I now get power of attorney. | ||
| And they go, oh, no, you've got me. | ||
| Like, Netflix literally just did this on one of their shows. | ||
| And I think it was Black Mirror, where they were like, you signed up for Netflix and you agreed to the terms. | ||
| Oh, no, Rhett's. | ||
| In reality, if that happens, you go to court and the judge is going to be like, oh, so it wasn't agreed upon? | ||
| Okay, it's out. | ||
| Contract's dissolved. | ||
| It just happens all the time. | ||
| Bridget McCrone suing Candace Owens as a formality because I'm willing to bet the Macron's called the State Department and said, we want to put a stop to this. | ||
| And they said, well, we can't just shut down speech in this country. | ||
| And they said, then what do we do? | ||
| File a lawsuit. | ||
| We'll get it in the right court. | ||
| You'll win. | ||
| The judge is going to be in on it because what's going to happen is the State Department's going to call the judge and they're going to say, you need to make this go away. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| This is how we're doing it. | ||
| And the judge is going to go, oh, okay. | ||
| Then Candace is going to walk in and they're going to go summary judgment, bang, just like they did to Alex Jones. | ||
| Do you think that when she said, oh, Trump called me and said to shut up about the Macronas, do you think that really happened? | ||
| Well, I – from the way she described it, it sounded – Listen, I'm really good at reading people. | ||
| sounded like it actually did happen because i'm really yes yes But here's what I first said. | ||
| The way she described the call sounded like a spoof. | ||
| She mentioned that Trump wasn't actually answering her statements or questions and that he was pausing. | ||
| It seemed like someone was telling him what to say. | ||
| And I was like, yeah, that's all the hallmarks of a spoof call where you can't answer the question because you've got the AI-generated voice ready to go. | ||
| So when she asks a question, you can't type up an answer fast enough. | ||
| It'd be a weird pause. | ||
| So you just have pre-scripted things to say. | ||
| However, I've heard from top men, he actually did call her. | ||
| And so I don't know for sure, but I've heard people say that actually, yeah, Trump did call her because the Macron's are pissed and this is causing diplomatic problems. | ||
| So this lawsuit, it's going through the courts. | ||
| She's going to get Alex Jones. | ||
| They're going to make up some reason to bang the gavel and say, summary judgment, you're out. | ||
| I mean, that was, listen, I used to like Alex Jones. | ||
| And then there's a lot of things I didn't like about him. | ||
| But what they did to him was like, just because he had an opinion of what he thought, how can they win this lot that lot? | ||
| He didn't really say, he said, I think it was fake. | ||
| But even he apologized. | ||
| I just can't believe what they call. | ||
| He called people out by name. | ||
| I think there was some grounds for defamation, but not $1 billion. | ||
| No, Alex said that he never named anybody. | ||
| Yeah, I never saw the name either. | ||
| That's what he said. | ||
| And what Alex had said publicly is that they never, here's the first fact. | ||
| They never actually had a trial on the merits of defamation. | ||
| He was found in default. | ||
| It was a summary judgment. | ||
| And what Alex said was they requested documents from him. | ||
| He turned them over. | ||
| They said, where's the rest? | ||
| He said, that's all of them. | ||
| They said, you're lying. | ||
| Default. | ||
| You lose. | ||
| And there's nothing you can do in that case. | ||
| They're going to go to Candace and do something similar. | ||
| They're going to say, Candace, turn over your internal communications pertaining to the Macron's. | ||
| They'll do it. | ||
| Then they're going to come back and say, no, there's another conversation. | ||
| Turn it over. | ||
| And they're going to say, we gave you everything. | ||
| Summary judgment, bang, you're in default. | ||
| Now you owe a million dollars. | ||
| We're supposed to defend people like Candace if things like that are coming down the pipe. | ||
| And it's like for her to make people hate her is not good. | ||
| You know, we're her fellow Americans. | ||
| This is the point about contracts, Ian. | ||
| The idea that we live in a society where if you are correct, you will win is laughable. | ||
| And as a poker player, you know this full well, the best hand does not always win. | ||
| No. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| But I do know that the most important thing when you're even in politics is not listening so much to what people say and looking at them and watching how they talk. | ||
| Because to me, when I watch Candace, to me, it's as phony as can be. | ||
| It's like night and day, right? | ||
| And even when Trump lies, like I used to make everybody laugh, I'm like, he's lying about this. | ||
| He's telling the truth about this. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| When he was just, oh, we're kicking, we're blowing up the drug boats because we want drugs. | ||
| I'm like, come on, dude. | ||
| I want to see you play against Ian because I think you'd, well, aside from the fact that you're a great poker player, you'd crush him. | ||
| But I'm sorry, Ian, you wear your cards on your sleeve. | ||
| On purpose today. | ||
| I like to think people think 20 minutes of the game and then just dominate. | ||
| Well, that's like when I play poker for 20 minutes, because I've been around for so long and everybody knows who I am, I just pretend like I'm their best friend. | ||
| We talk crap, and then I'm just like, oh, I'm like, oh, you raised, I three-pet, right? | ||
| I got like 6'3 offsuit. | ||
| I become friendly with them. | ||
| And then I rob them. | ||
| Only poker, though. | ||
| I don't do that out of poker. | ||
| I do got to give it to Ian. | ||
| He got stacked, bought back in for $100 at a $500 buy-in table and built it back up to $500 before I took it all from him. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| Nice. | ||
| He did build it back up. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| I noticed when I was becoming friends with people at the table, I started playing shit. | ||
| It was fast. | ||
| I'm like, I got to focus. | ||
| And they keep talking to me and asking me about aliens. | ||
| And I'm like, bro, I'm losing hundreds of dollars. | ||
| I can't. | ||
| I have to ignore you and be a machine right now. | ||
| I hope they're not all watching this, but when I play poking tournament, first thing I do for the first 30 minutes is become best friends with everybody at the table. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| And I just talk, talk, talk, and then the blinds go up. | ||
| And it's like, you know, there's so many people who are just not good at the table stuff. | ||
| And I'm sure you've been at many tables where there's a whale and people are mean to him. | ||
| And then he leaves. | ||
| And then those whales, I'm like, God, I wish I was that person. | ||
| But those whales have a lot more money in the poker plan. | ||
| I was at a table where there was this guy who was clearly very wealthy and he was playing miserably and laughing and one guy kept just needling him. | ||
| And then the guy was like, all right, guys, I'm getting out. | ||
| We were like, bro, what are you doing? | ||
| We were all having fun and getting paid. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| When people take a bad beat by somebody and they say something when the guy's giving away money, I mean, I play in a game like I was playing yesterday and we had a real live one at the table and like, you know, he beat, he took a brutal beat on me. | ||
| I said, nice hand, bro. | ||
| I'm like, he goes, thank you. | ||
| And that's what you have to say to the people who are giving away money. | ||
| I played at Maryland Live about a month ago. | ||
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| And I bought in for, it was a four, I think it was a $500, it was a $400 buy-in, and I left with three grand. | ||
| And there were three drunk guys laughing on the way out, shook my hand as I took all their money from them. | ||
| That's the point. | ||
| We're all here to have fun. | ||
| And even though they lost, they had a good time. | ||
| You're never wrong at the poker table. | ||
| You always tell the other guys, thank you. | ||
| I had a blast. | ||
| We're going to go to your Rumble Rad rants and super chats. | ||
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| Let's get to your rants and chats. | ||
| Let's see what's going on over on the Rumble side. | ||
| All right. | ||
| One goat says, The cope in this estrogen-filled room is too funny. | ||
| Your credibility is gone, Timmy. | ||
| Who the F even cares about Graham Allen's retarded opinions, LMFAO? | ||
| He's just taking shots at everybody. | ||
| Now, I want to say this: that's what the internet does. | ||
| The estrogen thing, it's a woman insult. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| It means nothing to guys. | ||
| No. | ||
| No. | ||
| So when these women are like, you know, when I was ma'am, I just want to make sure y'all understand this. | ||
| When I got very angry and was very vulgar in my insults to Candace Owens and I slammed my fist on the table, it's not estrogen that makes a man aggressive and unreasonable. | ||
| It's testosterone. | ||
| And testosterone also makes your hair fall out. | ||
| So the point is, it is this very female-coded thing to be like, you're very estrogen. | ||
| It's like, uh-huh. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Does that bother women when you say that to them? | ||
| Because, like, I don't think that works. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| I'm like that token estrogen guy. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| All right. | ||
| Eating lentils. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Give me that tofu. | ||
| All right. | ||
| I get called retarded all the time. | ||
| It doesn't bother me. | ||
| Just, yeah, seriously. | ||
| I call myself retarded. | ||
| Retarded? | ||
| I parted a vlog today because we went to the WPT, so I made a vlog. | ||
| Hey, we're having fun. | ||
| Go to YouTube. | ||
| It's at Tim Pool on YouTube and Rumble. | ||
| And the first thing I say as I open the video is, we're lost because we're retarded. | ||
| So once we figure out why we're retarded and lost, maybe then we'll figure out where to actually go. | ||
| I got no problems. | ||
| You saw what Elon said. | ||
| He goes, retarded has nothing to do with handicap or people. | ||
| It's actually people who are stupid. | ||
| I retard this show on purpose. | ||
| Like if it gets too fast, if you go too hard and do an idea too fast, I'll be like, Tim, stop. | ||
| Wait. | ||
| Come back. | ||
| Alex, slow it down. | ||
| That's part of why my like, I'll play devil's advocate. | ||
| I will retard you. | ||
| I thought retarded for Tim, whatever was the perfect word. | ||
| Ian is the meme where he's like, ha, jokes on you. | ||
| I was just pretending to be retarded. | ||
| We call them hard R retards. | ||
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All right, here we go. | |
| Just David says, Graham on Timcast is an absolutely incredible site to see my two favorite shows of the day. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Let's go. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Went from retarded to favorite show. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| That's wrong content. | ||
| I want one comment out of it. | ||
| It's all split in half. | ||
| It's just like, boom. | ||
| The Seth DM says, screw that other super chatter. | ||
| Rumble ranted. | ||
| Candace is a effing psycho. | ||
|
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Yes. | |
| I'm not going to read the last word because the last word's very naughty. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Soupy. | ||
| Mr. Deera Merica himself on Timcast. | ||
| Man, this might end up being one of my favorite shows to date. | ||
| Love you both, Tim and Graham. | ||
| And side note, we bought our twin girls, brought our twin girls home from the Niku today. | ||
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There you go. | |
| Congratulations. | ||
| Glad to hear that they're doing all right. | ||
| Mason M says, didn't she also insinuate you beat your wife over poker losses? | ||
| To be fair, I'm not going to play that game. | ||
| She didn't, she said, I'm like a guy who just lost 100 grand on poker and then comes home to beat his wife. | ||
| I am not your wife. | ||
| Don't take it out on me. | ||
| So that some people are saying, yo, she claimed that you spent 100 grand on poker and beat your wife. | ||
| And I was like, no, She didn't. | ||
| And I think the fact she's using the metaphor was clear. | ||
| Obviously, she's trying to attack my character, which I believe shows weakness in her arguments. | ||
| But I'm not going to pretend that she implied something else. | ||
| What I will say is this. | ||
| Fact. | ||
| I've seen the text. | ||
| Candace was saying she hated Charlie Kirk two months before he was murdered. | ||
| Okay, she was. | ||
| And there's more to that story. | ||
| And I just think the people who are having the conversation with me need to come out and say it. | ||
| A lot of people have sent me a lot of stories about Candace. | ||
| Some of them are very, very bad. | ||
| And I've not reported on them because it's more female-coded drama stuff. | ||
| Like, there's one story that a high-profile person sent me from a fundraiser where they're accusing her of doing bad mom things. | ||
| And I'm like, well, maybe if we were like, well, on Friday, we're having a conversation with House and Habit. | ||
| Maybe that's for them to talk about. | ||
| You know, I'm not going to get into that stuff. | ||
| I can also say that Candace has absolutely used the same security as Charlie. | ||
| There is a very simple and light way to explain it. | ||
| She worked with Turning Point. | ||
| She had the same security guys. | ||
| She was speaking at Turning Point events. | ||
| She had the same security guys. | ||
| I don't know why she's denying it. | ||
| That's the weirdest thing to deny it. | ||
| Well, there's also a big reason that Candace is using screenshots from so long ago from Charlie's original phone. | ||
| So the picture of Charlie, it's the same picture that I've got in mine. | ||
| It was his original phone. | ||
| If you look at all of the senators and congressmen and women that have screenshots from Charlie, the photos different and all this stuff, again, it makes you wonder how close was Charlie and Candace in the end, all this. | ||
| Did you see the text that Pastor Daryl Scott put out? | ||
| He goes, look, I've got more recent texts with Charlie than Candace does. | ||
| Because he knows that what she's saying is just all bullshit. | ||
| So I have on good authority that the people that Candace has been accusing of very serious crimes and malfeasance, she has personally worked with. | ||
| And I'm not the only one who knows this. | ||
| So we'll see. | ||
| I'm actually working on getting some of these people to come on the show and working on it. | ||
| The challenge is, however, that many of these people are, I probably shouldn't say this. | ||
| I'm going to say it anyway. | ||
| They are filing legal action against her. | ||
| And so their lawyers are basically saying, if you're going to file legal action, you can't do the press stuff. | ||
| I think that's why she's walking back after the Erica Kirk thing. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I mean, I think you were saying this. | ||
| Well, yeah. | ||
| Like I said, I truly believe that the meeting, and she admitted it. | ||
| Whether she did it on purpose or it slipped out in her show, she says, I haven't watched it. | ||
| Erica's lawyers did not fully convince me of something. | ||
| That means that Erica was there with her lawyers and Candace was there with her lawyers. | ||
| I'd have been recording it all. | ||
| That means not two girls trying to sit down. | ||
| No, it was arbitration. | ||
| I said from her statement Candace made last night, I said that does not sound like something Candace Owens writes. | ||
| That sounds like her and her attorneys crafted something to say to like push it out. | ||
| And again, I think what you're going to see is, you know, she's already walked back, as Tim put out. | ||
| Like, I jumped there. | ||
| I shouldn't have said this godforsaken organization. | ||
| But one of the worst things is what's damages. | ||
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That's what it is. | |
| It's getting like justice for Trump. | ||
| If you start getting conspiracies that, oh, it wasn't Tommy Robinson, those lawyers for Tommy, for Robinson, not Tommy Robinson, but Tyler Robinson. | ||
| Those lawyers are going to come out and say, he didn't do it. | ||
| Look, Luke, we could show you reasonable doubt, reasonable doubt. | ||
| And this is the worst thing about it. | ||
| I think here's my speculation. | ||
| They sat down with her, and then Erica says, I want you to take a look at this, pulls out a folder, and then hands a piece of paper showing all of the refunds. | ||
| And then she goes, These are quantifiable damages for the statements that you have made. | ||
| It's going to be compounded with punitive damages. | ||
| And I think you were saying this that the meeting was probably not even that long. | ||
| I don't think it was four and a half hours. | ||
| I mean, I could admittedly, I could be wrong about that. | ||
| But I think it was a much quicker meeting than that. | ||
| I think it's funny that she's walking these things back. | ||
| She even tweeted, we don't think Tyler Robinson acted alone. | ||
| And people are like, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on. | ||
| You were saying you didn't think he did it at all. | ||
| Now you're bringing it back. | ||
| And her own audience being like, what happened? | ||
| Well, Candace got scared. | ||
| Something in that meeting brought her, pulled her from the brink. | ||
| She's worried about something. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, money. | ||
| My ex-girlfriend felt the same way. | ||
| She's like, you mean, Mike, you don't think that somebody else was involved besides Tyler Robinson? | ||
| I said, no. | ||
| I'm like, the guy was on the roof. | ||
| And then how about the conspiracies? | ||
| They were like, oh, well, how did he take the gun apart? | ||
| He didn't take the gun apart. | ||
| Don't you see it? | ||
| He throws it over his shoulders. | ||
| He drops it down in the thing. | ||
| Where are these people coming up when he took the gun apart? | ||
| But I do think there was more than one person involved because there were tweets. | ||
| Oh, that's true. | ||
| They were tweets from people expressing what appeared to be foreknowledge of the assassination. | ||
| And these were trans lefty individuals on TikTok and Instagram and X. | ||
| And those questions have never been answered. | ||
| And the FBI said they were investigating that angle. | ||
| So the FBI right now is like, wow, there may have been people discussing this. | ||
| And they're looking into it. | ||
| I mean, that whole setup, though, you know how you being in the military, you know, you always want to be on higher ground. | ||
| Like, Charlie was down here, and all the rooftops, it was in like this encampment that goes down. | ||
| So like, it was just a setup. | ||
| It felt like a setup spot, kind of like when Trump got shot. | ||
| You're on higher ground. | ||
| You know, you're just Phoenix Ammunition shout out has been going off on the non on the people saying that it couldn't be a 30 out six. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| And then he was like, I use a 380 and shot through pork shoulder like 15 times, including the bone. | ||
| It is easy to penetrate pork. | ||
| We don't know about the human body and whether, you know, what the load was, what kind of bullet it was. | ||
| That's going to come out trial. | ||
| Well, also people that have been doing these tests, they're not doing the angle that it would have come through as well. | ||
| They're doing straight-on shots and things. | ||
| I have one thing to say about this. | ||
| Bullets do weird shit. | ||
| All the time. | ||
| They do not just blow through everything. | ||
| As soon as a bullet comes in contact with like a human body, it's mostly water. | ||
| It's this gelatinous thing and then it hits bone. | ||
| Bullets do weird things. | ||
| Just because you think that a bullet should do something doesn't mean that that's what it's going to do. | ||
| And just because you think a bullet couldn't do what apparently it has done doesn't mean you're right. | ||
| Bullets do weird shit. | ||
| I got a buddy who's alive today in the Army. | ||
| Bullet shot right to his head, hit the bottom of his Kevlar, followed it all the way around and went out the back end of it. | ||
| He's alive today. | ||
| Just wouldn't have to be able to do it. | ||
| I've never watched the assassination. | ||
| I didn't want to watch it. | ||
| I've seen like slow-mos, and it does look like the bullet hits his chest and ricochets into his neck. | ||
| You know what Chuck Robbie? | ||
| I've never watched, I refuse to. | ||
| It was too emotional. | ||
| I said this right when it happened, that it looked right when the shot happened, I was like, downward angle. | ||
| It looks like it goes in and hits his vertebrae and then its angle is shifted downward. | ||
| You know, that's going to all be trial. | ||
| And that's not what now that is afterwards is what they're saying. | ||
| And I've even talked to a sniper trainer, former SEAL, who said the moment he saw the video, he said 30 out 6. | ||
| Graham, you know who Chuck Ritter is, right? | ||
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| So this guy took a 7.62 by 54R round in the back, which is just about the same size. | ||
| It's a little bit smaller or a little bit smaller, but he took a round in the back and it didn't blow right through him, traveled right down his back, lodged next to his spine. | ||
| He actually died on the table like three or four times. | ||
| And he's been fighting with people on the internet because people are like, oh, of course, if you get shot with a 30-odd six, it's going to go right through you. | ||
| Bullets do weird shit, man. | ||
| They just do weird things. | ||
| Yeah, they do. | ||
| Let's grab some more. | ||
| We got bystander syndrome. | ||
| Oh, what's this? | ||
| He says, I like how Kang Dace low-key smuggled herself onto the Timmy Town Crier show. | ||
| It's almost like we get two Candace Owens shows every day. | ||
| I know. | ||
| I feel like we're doing a gossip show about a gossip show. | ||
| Not always, but sometimes I feel like. | ||
| We're talking so much about Candace, but it has to be said. | ||
| That's what that's sorry. | ||
| That's true, too. | ||
| There's so many people affected by it. | ||
| I reject this notion of like, oh, it's drama. | ||
| You shouldn't talk about it. | ||
| Prominent individuals leading political movements is what we talk about every day. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| When I criticize Chuck Schumer, people aren't going like, oh, it's drama. | ||
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When we talk about AOC again, oh, no. | |
| Maxine Water is saying, confront them in the streets. | ||
| That's just drama. | ||
| Yeah, we talk about political people influencing the political. | ||
| If this was like Maxine Waters for 18 days in a row, I'd be like, oh, my God. | ||
| You mean Trump? | ||
| Nonstop all day every day. | ||
| There's not one person on the left that I would wish any bad thing about. | ||
| I mean, I could disagree with you, but I don't wish any bad thing about it. | ||
| Now, the closest I've ever come to wishing bad things about somebody is recently Candace because she's come out so hard against Jews and so awful, the awful thing she's doing. | ||
| I still don't wish I didn't. | ||
| I made a mistake praying for harm to come to a person in my life once, and it's like black magic. | ||
| It seemed to affect everyone in my life. | ||
| And like my mom, like everybody was starting to get sickened. | ||
| Like it was just like, it just hurts everything, including yourself, when you pray for ill to come onto another person. | ||
| Let me read this. | ||
| This is important. | ||
| At Sensored 86 says, I'm so blackpilled on politics and scared. | ||
| I'm 27 and getting married next year. | ||
| I make 50K, and I don't know how to provide a life for her and our future kids with that. | ||
| I can't find a job for my degree, mass communications. | ||
| Yo, we talked about this the other day. | ||
| Do you know how much money you need to make salary-wise to be the 1%? | ||
| Not much. | ||
| $1 million. | ||
| It used to be 10 years ago, 400. | ||
| 15 years ago, it was like 220. | ||
| Inflation has gotten so insane. | ||
| 50K a year is basically making 10K a year by 10 years ago standards. | ||
| I've been telling people all the time, like, I live by myself, and my bills are like $8,500, $9,000 a month. | ||
| And I live in a 2,100 square foot house. | ||
| And I'm like, how do people survive in the real world? | ||
| How does Vegas exist? | ||
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| Bro, listen. | ||
| I go to the local casino by me. | ||
| No, I agree with you. | ||
| And you got $10 blackjack. | ||
| You got $10 games. | ||
| And even that's kind of like, man, if you're playing Mississippi Stud, it's $10. | ||
| You're spending $40 just to see one five-card hand. | ||
| And then I come to Vegas, and the first thing I see at the win is $100 blackjack tables. | ||
| I'm like, that's high limit by me. | ||
| How's the high limit, right? | ||
| So three years ago, four years ago, they started charging for parking, right? | ||
| Like $40. | ||
| I'm like, how can you ever charge for parking? | ||
| It's all about come in, valet's free, tip the valet. | ||
| If you want to be up top, you get 40 bucks. | ||
| Middle-class steak of $2.95 for a steak at the Binions Horse, you're up until 2010. | ||
| You can still get the steak and baked potato for $2.99 at midnight, right? | ||
| Now all of a sudden, it's insane, right? | ||
| So they were making like $22 million a month off the part. | ||
| They thought they're, oh, we've got the killer. | ||
| Now Vegas starts going like this because you know what? | ||
| The young girls that come up to go to the nightclubs, they don't have 40 bucks to park or go to for another 30 bucks. | ||
| Uber, Uber, Uber. | ||
| This is old people now. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| We got this one. | ||
| This is True Crime Time says, turning on Tucker is the last nail in Tim's coffin. | ||
| Like, I don't want to turn on Tucker. | ||
| I want him to stop. | ||
| I'm confused about I'm in the coffin because people are turning on Tucker. | ||
| Is that the point? | ||
| I think they're saying you turning on Tucker. | ||
| Right, that doesn't make sense. | ||
| No, maybe a reward in the future. | ||
| If you turn on Tucker, that will become the final name. | ||
| Yeah, and I'm not even turning on Tucker. | ||
| My issue with Tucker is I believe Tucker wants to get so many answers. | ||
| I believe he's searching for a lot of answers spiritually as well. | ||
| I think so too. | ||
| But he has no filter for, is this something that I should put out right now in this environment in this time? | ||
| I didn't even say anything about Tucker. | ||
| I said the only criticism I have was these videos where he's acting like some people he interviewed. | ||
| He doesn't know. | ||
| But as I said, I'm sure he would answer that question if you asked him. | ||
| He's not doing what Candace is doing. | ||
| There's your problem. | ||
| You're not allowed to say anything that you can't say that you disagree with him. | ||
| That's why we're censoring. | ||
| We're censoring. | ||
| And we say we disagree with him. | ||
| I'm very close friends with Matt Brooks. | ||
| He's the head of the Republican Jewish Coalition. | ||
| And Tucker used to come to, they have this big thing here to raise money in November. | ||
| Trump would come. | ||
| Tucker would come. | ||
| And like, Tucker can't come anymore. | ||
| He's not because of the things he has said. | ||
| And do I think Tucker's anti-Semitic? | ||
| No. | ||
| But he's also smart. | ||
| And if he wants to come out and say Bibi Netanyahu, I disagree with fine. | ||
| But he keeps always saying the Jews, the Jews, the Jews. | ||
| He's supposed to say Zijus. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's just, and he knows what he's saying. | ||
| He's a smart guy. | ||
| He's one of the, he's smarter than all of us, I guarantee you. | ||
| Is he talking about international banking cartels when he says the Jews? | ||
| Because some people conflate that. | ||
| No, whenever something comes out, he's like, well, the Jews. | ||
| You know, it's like, if you, the thing is, one thing about Charlie had it right. | ||
| You know, he always talked that there's no Christianity without Judaism. | ||
| And he always talked about the Old Testament. | ||
| He always talked about keeping the Sabbath, right? | ||
| That's what, even though, like, I'm Jewish, I'm not on the Christian side, but I believe that it's possible that Jesus was son of God. | ||
| I'm not going to go against it. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| So I did a poll, and it says, let's see, Candace is a clone or Candace got the call. | ||
| And Candace got the call wins with 59% with 7,963 votes. | ||
| David Brick and Super Chatted, I can't respond to your poll because both options are absurd. | ||
| It's time we all just tell the truth that she's an Argonian. | ||
| That's about her. | ||
| Oh, that's the lizard creature from Elder Scrolls, I think. | ||
| Yeah, they swim really fast. | ||
| Do they? | ||
| I think so, yeah. | ||
| Can they breathe underwater or something? | ||
| Candace? | ||
| Are you able to swallow water down that gland in the back of your throat and get the oxygen from it that way? | ||
| I do agree with Megan Kelly. | ||
| We do need Tucker in the conservative voice. | ||
| He's a very important part of the conservative voice. | ||
| And I just, I pray because I think he's a good man, that he could look back and realize some of the things that he's saying that even though he wants to say, I'm not anti-Semitic, you can't just keep saying that. | ||
| I'm going to turn on Tucker Crosser right now. | ||
| I'm going to criticize him very heavily. | ||
| He's too smart. | ||
| He's too smart and too good of a person. | ||
| Agree. | ||
| He's too smart. | ||
| You got to pull it back, Tucker. | ||
| Is it dangerous if your intelligence is too high but your wisdom is too low? | ||
| Can that be – because some people are like that. | ||
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| Are you a – Are you a druid or a wizard? | ||
| Of course, if you're a wizard, it doesn't really matter where your wisdom is until someone's like, should you really be saying that right now? | ||
| And you're like, but I don't know. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| I mean, Tucker goes to Russia and he shows you how beautiful this is in Russia. | ||
| Why won't Tucker go? | ||
| Tucker, go to Israel. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Go walk with Bibi Net and Yahoo. | ||
| Walk through the sites. | ||
| Watch how Israel is run. | ||
| See how Israel is not. | ||
| They don't separate all these different religions like Candace is saying. | ||
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| It was laughably absurd, the criticisms he got over his Russia and Putin interview. | ||
| That was insurd. | ||
| But I think it was fine. | ||
| You interview who you want to interview, and people were attacking him saying, don't interview Putin. | ||
| It's like, what? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| He should have. | ||
| He did well. | ||
| And Putin said a lot of things that showed the insight into Putin's worldview that I think were beneficial. | ||
| And we don't trust Putin. | ||
| So he can say what he wants, Tucker. | ||
| We take it with the greatest salt. | ||
| But he opines and he expresses things, and we get a glimpse into what he's doing and why he's doing it. | ||
| And then they attacked Tucker for doing it. | ||
| It was silly. | ||
| Now, going to the grocery stores and not really understanding that. | ||
| Well, he was trying to show, like, and this is where they say Trump's authoritarian. | ||
| Trump wants our country. | ||
| He wants us to walk down the street. | ||
| You know, you used to be able to walk down the strip and never have to worry about anything. | ||
| Now you walk down the strip, you're 50-50 to get mugged by somebody. | ||
| And that was never like that. | ||
| And Trump wants to see D.C. where everybody goes to visit the sites in D.C., the Capitol, the monument. | ||
| He doesn't want people to get mugged, you know? | ||
| And people who have been in D.C. said that the National Guard has really changed the landscape out there. | ||
| I have never, I don't know. | ||
| D.C. is a little bit there, right? | ||
| D.C.'s a crapshoot, dude. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| But it's better now, right? | ||
| With the National Guard? | ||
| Well, it was until the attack the other day. | ||
| Yeah, where they killed the one poor girl. | ||
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| Yeah, and shout out to these Virginia Air Guard. | ||
| We live right over there. | ||
| And so there's a really great restaurant just off the, at the airport in Martinsburg. | ||
| And it's like one of the best breakfast spots. | ||
| When you order sausage, it's real farm sausage. | ||
| You can tell when they make it. | ||
| The patties. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| And you go in there on the right day and you'll see all the West Virginia Air Guard sitting there eating with their families. | ||
| And I have tremendous respect for these people. | ||
| And it's so cool to see the bombers, just like the jets. | ||
| You can see them from the window. | ||
| So this hits pretty close to home. | ||
| It was pretty devastating for the community that this kind of attack happened. | ||
| And the fact that these liberals attacked Trump and by proxy, these men and women saying they shouldn't have been out there in the first place and it wouldn't have happened. | ||
| And it's like the fact that it happened shows that Trump was right. | ||
| The violence has gotten to this point. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| The problem is not that National Guard they were patrolling. | ||
| The problem is that they're psychopaths killing people. | ||
| So, but that's all the good news is the young man, I guess, is recovering. | ||
| He's starting to walk again. | ||
| So, you know. | ||
| Thank God. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Let's see. | ||
| Mark Gwedette says, Candace's husband is, what does it say? | ||
| M-N-I-6? | ||
| You mean M-I-6? | ||
| I have receipts. | ||
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I don't know. | |
| I just know how does he not come out and say things? | ||
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I mean, I don't know. | |
| I don't want to keep ganging up on Candace. | ||
| I just think that I want her to just be. | ||
| It is telling, though, that George doesn't say anything. | ||
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Anything. | |
| Anything. | ||
| Scary. | ||
| It's very, very, very telling. | ||
| Mark Blair says, Tim, would you address Pam Bondi and the DOJ defending the NFA and fighting to keep federal gun control in place? | ||
| Also claiming to be the most pro-Second Amendment DOJ in history. | ||
| Hypocrites. | ||
| Though I don't know if Pam Bondi ever came out and advocated for everyone to have guns. | ||
| But if that's the case, I mean, the Trump administration should not be defending the NFA. | ||
| The NFA is obviously unconstitutional. | ||
| It is an absurdity that we literally have an amendment that says shall not be infringed. | ||
| And they've literally infringed endlessly. | ||
| Because it's not just the NFA, it's also, what was the updated one in the 80s? | ||
| The Sportsman Protection Act had the Hughes Amendment, which outlawed the private possession of new manufactured machine guns. | ||
| I want a full-auto butterfly trigger 50 BMG on an APC in my rural backyard, and I just want to – and they can't tell me otherwise. | ||
| Apparently they can. | ||
| Did they say the NFA was because of the mob? | ||
| They were trying to combat the mob? | ||
| That's the history. | ||
| Basically, it was a Thompson. | ||
| And so they're having a difficult time with these gangsters robbing banks. | ||
| So they were like, we got to make it so you can't get it. | ||
| At the time, a $200 tax was prohibitive because it's ridiculous. | ||
| It was equivalent to $4,000. | ||
| They signed it the year after the business plot where they tried to have the coup. | ||
| The businessmen tried to march 400,000 soldiers on the Capitol with Smedley Butler and throw a fascist coup over them. | ||
| It's one year later. | ||
| They're trying to take the guns away from people next. | ||
| That's fucking crazy. | ||
| Yeah, allegedly, it was because of the machine guns, Tommy guns being used in Chicago and stuff like that. | ||
| That was the argument that was made. | ||
| The argument that because criminals do bad things, I can't have freedom is a wrong argument. | ||
| That's ridiculous, okay? | ||
| And there's a lot of things that fit the description. | ||
| Because I talk about that, I do believe in there's some limits, right? | ||
| We talked about this with Bonnie Blue. | ||
| She banged a thousand guys in 12 hours, and we asked if it be illegal. | ||
| I was the only one who said yes. | ||
| What happened to her in Ballet? | ||
| They really released her. | ||
| My point is... | ||
| It was kind of funny, though. | ||
| Adults can go do consenting adult things. | ||
| It's fine. | ||
| But a thousand people, I mean, there's an obscenity line where we're like, we don't want this to be pervasive in our society. | ||
| You have done something extreme and egregious, and there's a limit. | ||
| She publicized it, too. | ||
| That's a big difference than just doing it behind closed. | ||
| I mean, I have a couple of really close porn star friends, and they're really good people. | ||
| I'm just saying, a thousand people in 12 hours is where we're like, okay, we got to have a limit here. | ||
| Before you move on, if you're interested in something very similar to a machine gun, let me introduce you to forced reset triggers. | ||
| Yeah, but aren't they coming after those too? | ||
| No, the Supreme Court actually saw those. | ||
| I didn't buy one until the Supreme Court ruled on them. | ||
| What are those? | ||
| So basically, after the shot's fired, the trigger is forced to reset. | ||
| So if you're holding your finger back, it'll just keep pulling the trigger back. | ||
| But you feel the trigger move. | ||
| So it's actually actuating the reset. | ||
| So it just needs to be fully automatic. | ||
| Yeah, it's not fully automatic according to the very fast single fire. | ||
| I've never owned a gun or shot a gun because I knew I probably killed myself a thousand times already. | ||
| Glad you made that decision. | ||
| It's a good decision. | ||
| All right, everybody. | ||
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| The Andrew Tate fight is Saturday at 2 p.m. Exclusively on Rumble. | ||
| I am not going to miss this. | ||
| I'm rooting for Andrew Tate. | ||
| I understand there's a lot of criticism. | ||
| I've been critical of some of the things. | ||
| I'm who the guy's fighting is. | ||
| I want to see him win. | ||
| I want to see Andrew Tate win. | ||
| It is what it is. | ||
| You know, I really sometimes liked him a lot. | ||
| And then I start to realize because I can read through people. | ||
| He's got a little griff to himself. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| You know, he made a lot of money in crypto, but he said some things that I think are good. | ||
| He has this speech that went viral where he said, a rocket going to the moon doesn't stop halfway and take a break. | ||
| You can't take a break. | ||
| You've got to keep grinding. | ||
| You work harder than you've ever worked. | ||
| And I think that's a good message. | ||
| That's what I do respect about when I say these things. | ||
| And the funny point about how when you're rich, all you end up doing is looking for a better steak. | ||
| Like the point he was making. | ||
| You can have a better steak. | ||
| I've got the steakhouse for you while you're in there. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Well, we'll get that going. | ||
| But his point ultimately is like, it's not all about the money. | ||
| There's a mission that people are on. | ||
| So anyway, you can follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast. | ||
| Again, smash the like button, subscribe, all that good stuff. | ||
| Graham, do you want to shout anything out? | ||
| Graham Allen, wherever you can Google it, exit, Instagram it, everywhere. | ||
| Check out the show every day on Rumble only, the Graham Allen show at 9 a.m. Eastern. | ||
| Right on. | ||
| Mike? | ||
| Well, if you want to play poker, go to club WPT Gold promo code Mouth, and you could get on there and play for small stakes, for free stakes. | ||
| And if you want to see the best poker documentary ever, you could go to Amazon Prime, which is my poker documentary called Mataso M-A-T-U-S-O-W. | ||
| I promise you, it will be the best documentary you've ever seen. | ||
| I've had people come up to me and ask me about you because of how entertained by the documentary they were. | ||
| I just had a woman when I was leaving crying on my shoulder. | ||
| She watched my documentary seven times. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| She said, what you did to me was so inspiring. | ||
| And it really, I wanted to bring it up here because I said, it touched my heart because I know what I went through. | ||
| I know what I go through. | ||
| And for somebody to, she was crying, literally. | ||
| And this happened at the World Series back in May. | ||
| I had people come up to me crying. | ||
| They love my documentary and stuff. | ||
| So, you know, the thing about my documentary, there's nothing, there's very little poker in it. | ||
| It shows basically what some poker, what we go through at the World Series, how taxing it is on us to play a full-time tournament schedule. | ||
| And it shows you what I've been through since my injury and how hard it is for me to get out of bed every day to come, even to come here and the pain I deal with. | ||
| And so I think you'll enjoy it. | ||
| So that's Mattison. | ||
| It's Amazon. | ||
| What is it? | ||
| It's Mattiso on Amazon. | ||
| M-A-T-U-S-O-W. | ||
| Thanks, dude. | ||
| I'm at Ian Crossland. | ||
| Follow me if you want to dive outside the realm of politics. | ||
| Well, sometimes I talk politics too, get into spirituality, the psychoanalytical realm. | ||
| Let's do it. | ||
| And go to graphene.movie, where you can check out the upcoming graphene movie. | ||
| I'm just going to call it Graphene Movie, I think. | ||
| Went down to Rice University, interviewed amazing, in fact, Tucker Carlson just interviewed the scientist Jim Tour that I was down there working with like three days or two days yesterday actually. | ||
| Check out that interview with Tucker and Jim Tour. | ||
| And you'll see a great documentary. | ||
| It's coming up. | ||
| Put your name in the email list, sign up, or put your email in the email list. | ||
| And check this movie out when it comes out. | ||
| Graphene.movie. | ||
| I am Phil That Remains on Twix. | ||
| The band is All That Remains. | ||
| Just announced today All That Remains is hitting the road. | ||
| April 29th, we're going for about a month. | ||
| It's going to be us, All That Remains, Born of Osiris, and Dead Eyes. | ||
| You can get tickets tomorrow for pre-sale at allthatremainsonline.com. | ||
| They go live everywhere this Friday at noon. | ||
| I guess Ticketmaster or whatever. | ||
| But yeah, you can check out All That Remains music on Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora, Spotify, YouTube, and Deezer. | ||
| Don't forget the left lane is for crime. | ||
| We will see you all at Rumble.com slash TimCastIRL for the uncensored portion of the show. | ||
| Thanks for hanging out. | ||
| Hey, you're going? | ||
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You know what we're going to talk about? | |
| What's going on, guys? | ||
| We're doing the after show. | ||
| Things are a little crazy here. | ||
| Hugging and yeah, I mean, people saying good luck running out. | ||
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Hello. | |
| You know. | ||
| Here with Mike Mataso. | ||
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What was that? | |
| Oh, here with Mike Mataso. | ||
| Yeah, we're here with Mike Mattis. | ||
| Graham Allen's at the door still. | ||
| We're going to actually just jump right into your Discord questions. | ||
| So if you guys want to go ahead and get your questions up, I think that Serge has them ready. | ||
| Let me see here. | ||
| You can say wherever you're going. | ||
| It's fine. | ||
| Yeah, he already has the camera set up. | ||
| Yeah, I want to know before we get started, okay, Knit is somebody in poker that just sits and just folds, folds. | ||
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Knit is a guy who sits at the table, folds and folds, and waits for H's and Kings. | |
| An Ace King, right? | ||
| Me, I got to pound the water, man. | ||
| There's two ways to play poker. | ||
| You could play lots and lots of hands, and then when you make a hand, you get paid because everybody thinks you never have anything because you're in a lot of hands. | ||
| Or you could play like a knit and play super tight, and then everybody's like, oh, Mike's a knit. | ||
| But the thing is, is I give, I pretend like I'm a knit for the first hour, hour and a half. | ||
| And then when I rip it on them and bluff them, they never see it. | ||
| And they just say, oh, Mike always has it. | ||
| Mike always has it. | ||
| So it's like, what's easier to win at poker? | ||
| Is it easier to make hands? | ||
| It's tough to make hands, right? | ||
| Or is it easier to pretend like you're a tight player? | ||
| And then once you make hands, then it allows you to bluff more. | ||
| And then you just mock when you bluff. | ||
| They don't even know what you're talking about. | ||
| No, because you're like, oh, Mike has to have it. | ||
| He just plays like a knit. | ||
| He has to have it. | ||
| And they'll fold like two pair to me. | ||
| Do you find that knits are just boring for TV? | ||
| But the thing is, if everybody's playing tight, you play loose. | ||
| If everybody's playing loose, you play tight, right? | ||
| That's just the way it is. | ||
| And you have to adjust. | ||
| You have to adjust to the game. | ||
| There's certain games that the first thing I do when I sit down in a game, if there's people I don't know, is I spent 30 minutes just watching them. | ||
| Now I'm talking, trying to become their friends and being nice to them, everybody. | ||
| But as I'm doing it, I'm watching their hands. | ||
| I'm watching their eyes. | ||
| I'm watching how they react to each flop because I truly believe live poker is a pure form of poker. | ||
| There's no GTO or game theory or any type of solver that's going to teach you how to read people. | ||
| And the reason why I'm still winning without studying solvers and GTO is because I'm great at reading people. | ||
| What are solvers? | ||
| Solvers, you put every hand into a computer. | ||
| The computer then tells you what hands you should play in what position by your stack size. | ||
| So if you have, let's just say you're playing a tournament and you have 20 big blinds left. | ||
| The solver tells you when to jam on somebody, what hands to open with, what hands you don't call with each side. | ||
| So what people are doing is they're memorizing what the computer solver tells them to do. | ||
| And then they use something called game theory optimal, GTO, and the GTO tells you these are the hands you play, these are the hands you fold. | ||
| It's all connected. | ||
| Now, the best players in the world, they use GTO, solver, and the reading ability, right? | ||
| And I credit that person to me is Jason Kuhn. | ||
| And he's the nicest guy in the world. | ||
| And he's learned how to apply the solver GTO into the game, where most people, like, let's just say you know nothing about poker, but you go and get a course on poker and GTO, right? | ||
| You will be a break-even or winning poker player, okay? | ||
| With no talent, okay? | ||
| But that's not going to bring you from here to here. | ||
| That's going to make you $10,000 a year, $10,000 a month, I mean, with no talent, you know? | ||
| And that's a lot of money in the real world. | ||
| And then do they, I want to get to callers. | ||
| The last question, when you say they put them all three together, the, was it GTO? | ||
| GTO solver and reading people? | ||
| Do you get to the point where people are? | ||
| There's only five people in the world that are able to really do all three. | ||
| Do you get so good that you're like, he's running a solver right now, I can tell. | ||
| Well, you know, there's people at that, they outlawed last year, like if you're caught with people are going on their phones and running solvers while they're in, like in between hands, and you're automatically disqualified from the tournament now. | ||
| I couldn't even imagine like getting on a phone and running a solver to see what I should do with my stack size. | ||
| I mean, like, that's not, the game is supposed to be fun. | ||
| It's not supposed to be like, that's why the computer nerds, they don't get invited to the good cash games because nobody wants to see somebody at the table that's playing like a computer nerd and not talking and not being fun for the fish. | ||
| You know, why do I get invited? | ||
| I'm fun. | ||
| I make everybody laugh. | ||
| I make fun of people. | ||
| You got to do one of two things. | ||
| You either have to give a lot of action or make people laugh. | ||
| I make people laugh. | ||
| That's what I try and do. | ||
| We'll go for hours, man. | ||
| Thanks. | ||
| We're going to go to callers now. | ||
| We got, let's see, Patrick of Pecan Pie. | ||
| What's going on, man? | ||
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Nothing much. | |
| Merry Christmas. | ||
| How's everyone doing? | ||
| Hey, Merry Christmas, man. | ||
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Thanks for calling in. | |
| So I have a question. | ||
| How does someone that is out in public with a gun and shoots a whole bunch of people at university, which is highly surveilled with lots of cameras? | ||
| How does something like that occur and gets away? | ||
| It just seems to me like it's highly improbable in today's society that someone could do something like this with security and everything else that campuses have. | ||
| How can we prevent this from happening in the future? | ||
| Well, I mean, when it comes to how do you prevent it in the future, I mean, security is never perfect. | ||
| I think they got the surveillance. | ||
| They're just not releasing it. | ||
| They're trying to go slowly. | ||
| I think that's just like they did with the Charlie Kirk assassin. | ||
| I think they know who it is and they can't. | ||
| They're not letting it. | ||
| Are you referring to the Charlie Kirk stuff or are you referring to Brown? | ||
| Brown Brown either. | ||
| Yeah, like I agree with Mike. | ||
| I think that they probably got pictures. | ||
| They're just not releasing them yet. | ||
| But especially a university like Brown. | ||
| Well, there's also no utopian society. | ||
| And so gun restrictions and things like this is not the answer. | ||
| And even if you put armed military on the campus, we just saw it in DC, bad things are still going to happen. | ||
| And so a deterrent for evil is not to restrict freedoms of law-abiding citizens. | ||
| And even then, evil's still going to do evil things no matter what. | ||
| And so what is the answer? | ||
| You can always add more deterrents, but there's always going to be evil. | ||
| And they're always going to do evil things. | ||
| To Graham's point, like in prison, people are stabbing each other. | ||
| And they have no privacy. | ||
| They get their cells searched all the time. | ||
| Military bases have real tight security. | ||
| Military bases in Afghanistan had real tight security, and there were still dudes getting on to bases with carve arms and stuff. | ||
| So there's no universe where you get 100% perfect, secure location that is totally impregnable. | ||
| Like you just can't do it. | ||
| And to Mike's point, it's likely they have pictures. | ||
| It's likely they have some kind of surveillance of them. | ||
| As to whether or not they know where the guy is, that's up in the air. | ||
| But we'll see how that pans out. | ||
| Does that answer your question? | ||
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Sort of kind of just to me, how did this person get away? | |
| I don't think he's going to be able to do that. | ||
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People can watch him and stalk him. | |
| I'd like to make a bet that he's arrested within the next five days. | ||
| I would be shocked if it was more than that. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I mean, it might be that they just haven't picked him up yet. | ||
| You look at the Luigi Mangioni guy. | ||
| They picked him up a couple days later. | ||
| The guy that, you know, the kid that's accused of killing Charlie Kirk, that Tyler kid, like, he got turned in within two days. | ||
| You know, so look, it just happened over the weekend. | ||
| Today's Tuesday. | ||
| You know, you've got to give him a little bit of time to actually do the police work. | ||
| But I don't know. | ||
| You know, I don't know that he's going to get away. | ||
| I think that it'll take a little time to find him, though. | ||
| You got anything you want to shout out? | ||
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No, just Discord. | |
| You know, it's a great community. | ||
| We love people to get around. | ||
| And I've been doing the morning show. | ||
| We showcase Casper Coffee every morning and we discover what's going on. | ||
| Awesome. | ||
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So we love people that are coming and hang out. | |
| And I appreciate you guys answering my question. | ||
| Appreciate it, man. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Let's see. | ||
| We got to go with Plastic Cup Politics here. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Plastic Cup Politics. | ||
| You're on. | ||
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Hey, guys. | |
| Thanks for taking my call. | ||
| You know, I drop a question to talk to Graham a little bit. | ||
| And it turns out we got Mike the Mouth, who's base as hell. | ||
| This is the coolest thing that's happened to me all week. | ||
| All right, man. | ||
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Well, first and foremost, Graham, condolences on the loss of your brother in Christ. | |
| The video that you put out reporting it was one of the most powerful things I've ever seen. | ||
| So I just want to say thank you for putting that out there, being vulnerable and keeping us all informed. | ||
| But on that topic, I wanted to I've connected a few dots. | ||
| It's kind of crazy. | ||
| I wanted to get you guys' take on it. | ||
| So Tim put out a video a couple weeks ago about AI's influence on the real world. | ||
| You know, how they tried to get him to shut down his company and sell his property. | ||
| We also know AI has encouraged people to commit suicide. | ||
| So Turkey Tom put out a video about the inner gaming circle. | ||
| And he said Lance Twiggs would be on Chat GPT for days on end. | ||
| So I've kind of connected those dots. | ||
| And I'm thinking, how do you think our government would respond if they found out that somehow AI was culpable in encouraging the assassination of Charlie Kirk? | ||
| Even, you know, it's vital to national security. | ||
| I don't believe that. | ||
| I believe that he really believed some of the videos that he saw about trans people. | ||
| And the thing was, Charlie doesn't hate, they never hated trans people. | ||
| He would always explain why. | ||
| And it's just a fact. | ||
| It's like, if you want to be trans, you could be my best friend next to me, but you can't push it. | ||
| You're what you want to be. | ||
| It's not reality. | ||
| Like, you're a man that wants to be a woman. | ||
| I'm happy for you, but you're still a man. | ||
| And I don't, I think that he took it as, I mean, he said it. | ||
| We're going to see all the tech. | ||
| That's why I was so against Candace Owens. | ||
| You're going to see all these texts that they have that's going to come that's going to prove that he did it, you know? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So to the AI quit, well, first of all, thank you for saying that. | ||
| Those videos were literally in real time. | ||
| A lot of people don't know this. | ||
| I was on the phone. | ||
| with Turning Point when the whole Charlie thing went down. | ||
| And so we were having a discussion about, you know, future and marketings and stuff like that. | ||
| And, you know, I'll never forget that phone call. | ||
| You know, everybody started sounding really distracted and they're like, Graham, hold on. | ||
| Something's going on. | ||
| Just hang on one second. | ||
| And they're like, oh, something happened at one of our events. | ||
| Graham, it's something to do with Charlie. | ||
| We don't know what's going on. | ||
| And so we said, okay, well, let's end the meeting. | ||
| I'll tap all my resources. | ||
| You tap all your resources. | ||
| And then first one to find out. | ||
| And so that first video where I asked everybody to pray, I mean, that was a real in-the-moment thing because all we heard was he had been shot. | ||
| And then, you know, I saw the video. | ||
| Everybody else saw it. | ||
| I've never watched it. | ||
| I couldn't. | ||
| I couldn't. | ||
| Well, anybody that's ever, anybody that's ever been a part of the military or police or anything, I knew as soon as I saw the video. | ||
| I saw the reports of people like, they got a pulse. | ||
| There's no way. | ||
| And so anyway, I appreciate you saying that. | ||
| Back to the point about AI. | ||
| I think AI is something that is here and it's not going anywhere. | ||
| And it's going to transform our entire world. | ||
| It already is. | ||
| I think we got to invest in it. | ||
| I think it's going to transform the entire world. | ||
| And so I think even if they did find out something like that, not saying that it did, I think it would just be, you know, it's a glitch in the system. | ||
| They're working the kinks out. | ||
| They're just going to keep on rocking. | ||
| AI is not going anywhere. | ||
| AI is here and it's here to stay. | ||
| And the advances from a year ago to now, I mean, it's insane. | ||
| And so I think 10 years from now, we're not even going to really recognize. | ||
| AI figured out what was wrong with me when I've been dealing with all this pain in the last four years. | ||
| Yeah, because like somebody brought up to me, like, I think you might have pelvic floor dysfunction, right? | ||
| So now I start putting in all my symptoms, like everything that when does it hurt worse? | ||
| And then it just everything kept coming back. | ||
| This is what you have. | ||
| And then you 100% have it, right? | ||
| And no doctor for four years could figure out why I was getting pain in my knee and pain in my hip. | ||
| Sure enough, I'm getting better. | ||
| Graham, I want to ask you, actually, you mentioned about, I don't remember exactly what you were talking about, but you mentioned school and how your kids are going to have to deal with going to school and stuff. | ||
| What are your thoughts about the future of school for kids when it comes to AI? | ||
| Because I know now if you want to homeschool your kids, you can buy curriculum. | ||
| And I imagine in the next, I'm thinking in the next few years, you're going to be able to have an AI that you purchase so you'll know what kind of AI is, what kind of teaching it's going to be. | ||
| I think doctors are going to be completely, regular doctors that you go to for a doctor visit to check up how you're doing are going to be obsolete. | ||
| Yeah, but I mean, the reason I ask is because I just had a kid. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| I just had my first kid. | ||
| I got four. | ||
| He's two months old now. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| And I'm honestly hoping that there's an AI that I can purchase so I don't have that I can I know the curriculum he's going to be learning. | ||
| So I don't have to send my kid to the government school that's going to, you know, that possibly is going to be, you know, trying to fill their head and dock some crazy LGBT shit, you know? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, I, you know, I actually, I actually had a conversation with AI to find out the answer to this. | ||
| I have a conversation with AI every day. | ||
| Well, but I was specifically asking about, we had had a conversation on the show about college. | ||
| And I am in the position of, unless it's a very specific degree you're going for, 95% of college degrees are worthless. | ||
| That's my stance. | ||
| A lot of people disagree. | ||
| Mostly the people that have those worthless degrees that I'm talking about, they get real upset. | ||
| But, you know, I asked, Chat GBT, I was like, hey, what are the laws on you? | ||
| Because, you know, the one thing I've always hated is all I always hated was writing papers. | ||
| And ironically, I got book number three getting ready to come out. | ||
| But either way, you know, I was like, what are the laws about using Chat GPT or AI to help with writing papers? | ||
| You know, because when you go to college. | ||
| That's going to happen. | ||
| That's going to happen. | ||
| That's what's going to happen. | ||
| Well, when you go to college, you got to learn AP writing style. | ||
| If you go to seminary, they've got a whole different theological dissertation, paper styles, and all this. | ||
| And I said, so what are the rules? | ||
| So the rules are that essentially you can just brain dump now. | ||
| Like you can just brain dump whatever it is that you think about this. | ||
| And then you can copy it, paste it, and say, I need this in AP writing format. | ||
| I need you to find cited things to put in it for me and make it grammatically correct. | ||
| And it'll do it. | ||
| And apparently that's okay. | ||
| Like apparently, apparently that is perfectly fine. | ||
| And so I think AI is going to put a lot of colleges in a lot of problems. | ||
| I think you're going to see even more surging online, even more than it is right now. | ||
| But back to the, you know, outside of college side, I don't know, man. | ||
| I know that maybe so. | ||
| I know what we did is we got with a teacher who had been in teaching for 30 years and hated the way the system was in the indoctrination. | ||
| And we kind of met with her and we're like, hey, we can't put our kids in school. | ||
| Do we want to kind of create like this homeschool hybrid kind of thing? | ||
| And so that's what we did. | ||
| And so our kids go to school four days a week in an undisclosed location. | ||
| And, you know, and now it's turned into, it started with four families and now it's like 150 kids that go there now. | ||
| And so I think you as parents and people watching and listening as parents, you've got all the power in the world, man. | ||
| We did the same thing with our doctors. | ||
| So one of the families that go to this school is a doctor. | ||
| He was tired of the big pharma middleman crap and wanted to go direct to care for families. | ||
| And so we did. | ||
| It's 300 bucks a month directly to that doctor. | ||
| No insurances involved, no nothing. | ||
| I can text my doctor right now. | ||
| And if I need something, he can call in something here while I'm there. | ||
| He knows our names. | ||
| He knows our kids. | ||
| He knows what our problems are. | ||
| The average, we're really going on a tangent now. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| An average doctor in the big, big pharma healthcare system has 2,000 patients. | ||
| Our doctor is tapped out at 600, you know, kind of thing. | ||
| So you see the drastic difference there. | ||
| So that's why when you go to these big, you know, big pharma-controlled doctors' offices, hospitals, et cetera, they got to pull the computer up first to even figure out who you are because they have no clue. | ||
| And so you've got all the power to take everything back. | ||
| You just have to be willing to do it. | ||
| Awesome. | ||
| Plastic Cup Politics. | ||
| Does that answer your question? | ||
| You got anything you want to shout out? | ||
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Yeah, I'm just really curious to see when the trial actually happens, whether or not Lance Twiggs turned state's evidence because we all assume he's in witness protection right now. | |
| If it turns out that he has nothing to do with the prosecution at all, I'd be very curious as to why he disappeared. | ||
| So definitely paying attention for that. | ||
| But thanks for taking my call, guys. | ||
| If I may do some shameless self-promotion, thank you for small YouTube channel, Twitter, Plastic Cup Politics, where I do debates, a Trump hating TDS friend of 30 years. | ||
| We got a January 6th video that's already up. | ||
| I'm editing our immigration video as we speak. | ||
| But I also did a video for Charlie Kirk based off of all the independent media's responses on that fateful day. | ||
| the follow-up. | ||
| So I got Graham in there. | ||
| I got Benny in there. | ||
| A little bit of Tim, a little bit of Phil, a lot of Poso, a lot of Erica. | ||
| It's pretty inspiring. | ||
| And I think it's pretty powerful centered around Brand's comments. | ||
| So I'd appreciate it if everyone go check that out. | ||
| Plastic Cup Politics, pinned tweet, and also on YouTube. | ||
| Awesome, guys. | ||
| Thank you for coming in. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| All right. | ||
| We're going to go to, who is this? | ||
| This is Super Patriot. | ||
| What's going on, Super Patriot? | ||
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Hey, how are you guys doing tonight? | |
| Merry Christmas to y'all. | ||
| Merry Christmas, man. | ||
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Real quick, if you got a question about a steak place in Vegas and all that, above the casino in Plain Hollywood is a really good steak place. | |
| Cool. | ||
| And just down the street from there, if you like really good hot dogs, check out Pinks. | ||
| Yeah, those. | ||
| So both are very good. | ||
| I've eaten both. | ||
| Very good. | ||
| Good stuff. | ||
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My question is, how many correlations and similarities are you guys seeing between the JFK assassination conspiracy theorists and those who are believing the conspiracies that Candace is pushing? | |
| And why do you think they are so easily manipulated by them? | ||
| Well, I'm going to first say that the JFK, I don't believe, I think it was a complete cover-up. | ||
| I mean, it's been proven that it was. | ||
| When Trump got in back in, they put out the JFK files to prove that the CIA was involved in killing JFK, where there's, we have one guy climbing off the roof and they have his prints on the gun and his father, I mean, his father turned him in and they've got all the text. | ||
| And I don't know where the conspiracy is coming from. | ||
| I mean, could there have been another shooter? | ||
| It's possible. | ||
| I've told my ex-girlfriend this, I'm like, come on. | ||
| I'm like, the guy's admitted to it. | ||
| It's a one-person shooter. | ||
| The guy was shooting guns since he was 12 years old. | ||
| They have videos. | ||
| The guy's a sharpshooter. | ||
| You know, that's just what I just believe. | ||
| Anybody thinking it's anything but Tyler Robinson? | ||
| I just think that they're just very easily manipulated by craziness of Candace Owens. | ||
| The correlation that I see between it all is due to Candace. | ||
| And what I mean by that is, like, I truly believe that no matter what, no matter what comes out in the trial, which Erica has already said, it's going to be a year from now, possibly 27, you know, before this trial actually happens. | ||
| I think it'll be next year. | ||
| I think Candace has done so much damage that I don't think it matters what happens in that courtroom. | ||
| I don't think it matters what evidence is shown if we're allowed to have cameras in there, which that judge, to my knowledge, still hasn't made that decision yet. | ||
| She said whatever Erica wants. | ||
| But I think that's the correlation I see. | ||
| And what ticks me off more than anything that Candace has done, and I've said this on the show, is that Charlie Kirk forever will be considered just like JFK, no matter what evidence. | ||
| I said he'll be aware of that. | ||
| And Candace Owens' face will be right next to Charlie Kirk for forever. | ||
| Well, his wife will be, but you will not be able to mention Charlie Kirk without this Candace Owens thing that has happened. | ||
| And that's what makes me upset about it. | ||
| She's walking it back now because she had, I mean, just what she did today tells you that it's going to be backed off. | ||
| But her supporters turning on her because of it. | ||
| Back to my point, I think the damage is already done. | ||
| I hope to God. | ||
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I think that's it. | |
| I think Charlie Kirk is JFK because of Candace Owens. | ||
| That's what I think. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| There was a bunch of people right after Charlie was shot that were using terminology of they killed Charlie Kirk and using that word they hate that. | ||
| That sparks conspiracy theorists mindset and maybe people were. | ||
| We said it on the show tonight a couple times and I was trying to. | ||
| I wanted to walk it back because I'm like they. | ||
| When I say they it's it's, it's the media, the media making Charlie out to be somebody he wasn't, so that when I say they killed him, it's I, it's the media, but when? | ||
| But there's only one person that killed him and there's a possibility that there was a collusion in like discord chats or like a group of people that were like yeah let's, lots of people wanted to kill him. | ||
| He had the heart. | ||
| That's why he had high security at every event. | ||
| There might have been a they, but without evidence to say they killed Charlie Kirk. | ||
| Especially if you're on a news show and you say it out loud and people believe you, they're gonna start thinking like well, who is they? | ||
| Yeah, I look, I don't see a significant correlation between JFK and Charlie Kirk. | ||
| The evidence is very strong that it was Tyler Robinson. | ||
| They've got his DNA on the bullets. | ||
| They got his DNA on the gun. | ||
| His family turned him in. | ||
| He mentioned multiple times that he did it smiling in the courtroom. | ||
| Yeah, but you know, you see that smile. | ||
| But I heard I don't know if it's true, but that there's not a day goes by that he doesn't think. | ||
| Well that's, that's one of the things that he's alleged to be bad, that's one of the things that he's alleged to have said. | ||
| That's what the lip breeder signs yeah yeah, but like I don't, I don't see a significant correlation. | ||
| I mean, whatever you think about the JFK killing, you know whether, whether or not you believe it was CIA, I think that that was. | ||
| You know, I don't believe that was. | ||
| I think it was Lee Harvey Oswald. | ||
| He'd gone to Cuba and he'd met with communists. | ||
| He was a communist and JFK was pretty stern on on the Soviet Union and pretty pro the United States, pretty anti-communist. | ||
| So I think that that's all. | ||
| But I don't, I don't think it was. | ||
| As far as you know, as far as I'm concerned, there's not a real big, there's not a lot of conspiracy between the two of them. | ||
| But I mean look, there are people that that give me hell and say oh, you know, you're just a normie, but I think a lot of why you're you're seeing the conspiracy stuff now is because so many people are so skeptical of any official narrative, because of what the government did during COVID exactly. | ||
| You know the, the BS that we had to put up with, the masking for no reason, the social distancing saying mask, they don't that, they don't, they're worthless. | ||
| They rub that whole video off. | ||
| In the very beginning, the re like they, they were saying no, don't mask. | ||
| And then when they were worried about doctors having enough ppe, then they start they were saying don't mask at all and then, once they realized that the doctors would have enough ppe, they're like, oh yeah, now you have to mask and and so it was. | ||
| It was too many lies from the, the government, from the official, You know, the official people for the American people to stand it. | ||
| And what happened was people are like, got to the point where they're like, you're not going to take me again. | ||
| So if I just default to not believing whatever the official narrative is, I'll probably be right. | ||
| And then you combine that with a situation on the internet where you can always find what seems like a lot of people that agree with you. | ||
| Like Tim has talked about this before, but like, used to be 25 or 50 years ago, if you were like, man, I want to have sex with my toaster, you tell your friend and your friend's like, what the hell's wrong with you? | ||
| No, you don't want to have sex with your toaster. | ||
| Knock it off. | ||
| But nowadays, you go on the internet, you find a group of people that are like, man, I want to have sex with toasters. | ||
| And there's a thousand people in the group and you think, man, this is totally normal. | ||
| So the internet kind of warps reality. | ||
| You find people that you agree with. | ||
| And then it seems like everybody agrees with you. | ||
| I've got 200 or something thousand followers. | ||
| And if I say something that upsets a group of people, my mentions will seem like everybody's against me. | ||
| But if you look at like the likes to the comments, very rarely is it actually a ratio. | ||
| You know, I get a thousand likes, but if you've got a hundred comments in your mentions, it seems like, wow, there's a lot of people that disagree with me. | ||
| It's just the way we perceive things. | ||
| People aren't wired to be able to process the difference between 1,000 people and 10,000 people. | ||
| Most people only will know closely maybe a couple hundred people in their whole life. | ||
| Your whole life, there may be two, 300 people that you actually know and meet and talk to on a regular basis. | ||
| So you're not really wired. | ||
| Like evolutionarily, you're not wired to know more than people. | ||
| So once you get past a certain number, it just seems like a bunch. | ||
| So I think that a lot of the reason why the conspiracy stuff is so prevalent on the internet is because people feel like all the people they interact with agree with them, but they're just kind of in a bubble of a few hundred, maybe a thousand, five thousand people. | ||
| And that just seems like everything. | ||
| And it's what I said earlier. | ||
| We got Trump elected because we exposed the media for their lies. | ||
| And everything they said that was a conspiracy from us all came true. | ||
| Everything about COVID, everything about everything. | ||
| And so now when we have somebody like Candace just spreading insanity, we can't be the people, the party, that are pushing conspiracy bullshit. | ||
| Because all of our conspiracies came true that they accuse us of for like five years. | ||
| Just asking questions, like pointed questions are quite obviously more than just questions. | ||
| If I'm like, well, do you smell like shit or do you smell like 10 times that much shit? | ||
| Like, what kind of fucking question is that? | ||
| I'm insinuating that you smell like shit. | ||
| Not you, Mike, but that would be an insinuative question. | ||
| I just wish Candice people. |