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Erika Kirk Tells Candace Owens STOP, Candace Says NO | Timcast IRL

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tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Erica Kirk has finally come out and directly addressed Candace Owens, giving her one word, stop.
		Now, Candace Owens had said for some time now that there's only two people who could stop her, and it's her husband and Erica Kirk.
		And now that Erica Kirk has formally requested that she stop, Candace Owens has, of course, responded as everyone predicted by saying, no.
		She says, stop what?
		Stop lying?
		What do I lie about?
		So Candace is doubling down and she's going to continue her antics, heavily criticizing Ali Bethstucci by calling her Jewish, which is not surprising, I guess.
		Now, this may be just a bit more drama, but it does connect to the bigger picture, and that is the Tyler Robinson hearing today.
		And we learned a bit.
		There's a big discussion about whether or not they're going to allow cameras in the courtroom.
		It looks like the answer will be yes.
		So this is all tied together.
		The question being, who killed Charlie Kirk?
		And is this trial going to prove it?
		And that's going to be, I think it's going to take a long time to figure out.
		All of these cases are taking forever.
		So we'll talk about that.
		Plus, apparently NATO is suggesting that World War III is coming.
		And I kind of roll my eyes.
		And I know a lot of people are saying, Tim, talk about the war.
		Talk about the Venezuela stuff.
		And I'm like, guys, they keep screaming this in our faces.
		So, of course, we will talk about it, but we'll get there.
		And then we've got big midterm talk because Indiana didn't want to redistrict.
		The Republicans were like, no, we won't do that.
		So, of course, there are questions about the midterms.
		And I, for one, want to win because I don't want to go back to an era where we had lockdowns and people were forced to get medicated and things like that.
		And they were censoring us.
		So I think it's pretty dang important we actually win this one.
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	Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more.
	We have Tina from Moms for Liberty.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		It's so great to be here with you in the dead of winter in West Virginia.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Indeed, I love it.
		So who are you?
		What do you do?
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		I am the CEO and co-founder of Moms for Liberty.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		We're a national nonprofit organization fighting for parental rights, better education in America, standing up for kids, getting the big government out of our families.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right on.
		Well, thanks for hanging out.
		It should be fun.
		We've got Libby hanging out.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I'm here.
		I'm hanging out.
		Really glad to be here with you guys.
		I'm Libby Emmons from the Postmillennial and Human Events.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Guys, what is going on?
		It is Brett Pop Cooper.
		Brett Cooper.
		I was going to start with what's up, y'all, and do this, but I did not.
		Pop culture crisis is about to hit 384,000 subscribers.
		You should go over there and check out the channel.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Hello, everybody.
		I am Dr. Philip Labonte from All That Remains.
		I am an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary.
		Let's get into it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So for those that have no idea why that just happened, Tate came to me this morning and he said, Grock's just straight up lying about the Timcast crew.
		It's the weirdest thing ever.
		And so I pulled up Grock and I said, who are the staff at Timcast IRL?
		And it said, Tim Poole, Phil McGraw, Brett Cooper, and Ian Crossland.
		And we started laughing.
		I was like, Phil McGraw is like, Dr. Phil and Brett Cooper.
		And so I asked it about Brett Cooper and it gave me this really long-winded, it kept going talking about how Brett Cooper worked for Timcast on Pop Culture Crisis before going solo.
		And it's just, it made everything up.
		It said that she moved from Maryland to Tennessee.
		And you know what?
		I realized it's not lying.
		It's in another dimension.
		It's an alternate reality.
		So it's getting everything right.
		It's just too good of AI.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Hallucinations are back, baby.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		See, if I was any.
		I'm not mad.
		I'm not famous.
		Phil should be mad.
		Phil's famous and they're mixing in love with another famous person.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Everything's got like water off a duck's back.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		All the chat GPTs and everything still called Trump former President Trump.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I mean, the amount of lies in these machines is a precursor for the end of information storage in humanity.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		How fun.
		All right, let's jump into the first story we got for you guys.
		Now, we have this story from CBS News.
		Erica Kirk has one word for Candace Owens, who's been peddling conspiracy theories about Charlie Kirk.
		And admittedly, it's all a bit of heavy drama, but I actually think this does matter for a variety of reasons.
		And I think this is actually a big piece of the story today, which was Tyler Robinson had his first in-person hearing.
		And we're learning a lot about what's going on.
		Now, however, there are way too many people that live in WALL-E World believing the most insane things because of Candace Owens.
		Now, I'm not going to sit here and claim the feds are telling you the truth or the FBI is right about everything.
		And by all means, you're allowed to believe it's a cover-up, but I can certainly tell you that 68 Egyptian planes flying around on Utah time or whatever it is, you know, the argument that she's making.
		She claimed that E4s and E5s were lieutenant colonels.
		Did you see this going viral recently?
		It is the epitome of unvetted absurdity.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Got to salute the E4 mafia now.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		And she's saying that the U.S. military is involved and Bridget McCrone's a man and all of these things.
		And it's all tied together.
		And it is crack pottery, but there are many people who are falling for this.
		Now, I want to get to the bottom of who killed Charlie Kirk.
		And it may or may not be Tyler Robinson.
		I think the evidence suggests it is, because it's silly to think that the feds were going to plot out this cover-up and then do it as miserably as is being suggested.
		It may actually just be that the shooter plotted things out miserably as has been suggested.
		But Erica Kirk has finally come out, and we have a story from CBS News.
		Erica Kirk has one word for Candace Owens, who has been peddling conspiracy theories about her late husband.
		She said, stop.
		In the town hall set to air Saturday at 8 p.m., CBS News editor-in-chief, Barry Weiss, asked Charlie Kirk's widow what she wants to say to Owens and others who are making unfounded claims about his assassination.
		Stop.
		That's it.
		That's all I have to say.
		Stop.
		Owens used to work for TPUSA, the conservative youth organization.
		This we all know, we understand.
		Now, we have a response.
		Candace Owens has basically said no.
		They go on to say that Erica Kirk talks more about her husband, so this is going to be airing later.
		Candace Owens is saying, her direct response was that Erica Kirk said, stop lying.
		That was the question.
		And so Candace says, be more specific.
		What am I lying about?
		And it's funny because she pledged before that she would stop if Erica Kirk asked.
		So this is a grift.
		She's just peddling this for attention and it's nonsense.
		And I do fear, again, to all those, I know a lot of people out there saying this is stupid drama.
		Who cares?
		What I care about is a tainted jury pool.
		And when they actually start to bring jurors in and they are asked, do you think Tyler Robin, like, have you heard anything about Tyler Robinson?
		Yes, I have.
		And what have you heard?
		I heard that he's innocent.
		Candace Owens says it was the military that did it.
		That's going to taint the jury pool.
		And I almost wonder if she's doing it on purpose.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		You know, there's a lot of people out there that say things like, oh, you know, it's okay for people to ask questions and stuff.
		And fair enough, it is okay for people to ask questions, but Candace isn't just asking questions.
		She's implying things.
		First of all, she's bringing up the FBI.
		And this is a Utah case, right?
		Like, this isn't, as far as I know, this is not a federal case.
		This is being tried in Utah.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's Utah prosecutor.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		So it'd be state, it'd be the state police and the state DA that are actually handling it.
		The FBI was there to support, but the FBI isn't actually doing the case.
		There's just so many holes in everything that she says, and it's totally ridiculous.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let me play this clip and you can hear what she said.
candace owens ▲ ● ▼		I already had this business.
		I was already at the top of the charts.
		Okay, I said I wasn't going to talk about it.
		I actually did because it's so ridiculous.
		Okay.
		But she says, I'm lying.
		And Erica responds.
		And her answer to what do you want to say to the podcaster Candace Owens who is lying is stop.
		So Erica would like me to stop lying.
		And I would like to honor that.
		Okay.
		I can only honor that if Erica is more explicit in terms of what I have lied about.
unidentified		Shocker.
candace owens ▲ ● ▼		What did I lie about?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, we can start with that when she said, quote, the shooting that Tim survived was committed by his brother.
		We can start there.
		You lied about that.
		Now, fine.
		That's not about Charlie.
		That's about me.
		But you're a liar who makes things up all the time.
		How about when you claimed that, I don't know, the easiest one most recently was that E4s and E5s were lieutenant colonels.
		They're not.
		I think it's 06.
		I'm not sure.
		I'm not.
		But is it 06?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I think an 04 is a major.
		05 would be lieutenant colonel.
		I think.
unidentified		05?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		See, I don't actually know, but I certainly know the difference between E and O, enlisted in officers, and she doesn't.
		She has lied quite a great deal.
		And here's the thing: the game she's playing is, I'll start here.
		I have seen text messages.
		There are several conservatives who said Candace Owens was going around in the few months before Charlie was assassinated saying she hated Charlie Kirk.
		That is true.
		That is true.
		I have seen the texts.
		Now, the issue is: did she actually say it?
		Well, these people are going around behind the scenes being like, This is what Candace Owens told me.
		Candace is playing this game where she's saying, I got a tip from the military.
		This is proof.
		Well, clearly she didn't because this guy didn't know what an officer was.
		Is it true that Candace got an email?
		Probably.
		And then she takes that email without vetting it, without fact-checking it, and reports whatever it is as truth and says, I didn't lie.
		I told you.
		I got an email that said this.
		That's the game she's playing.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It's the same, like I said, she's just making these implications.
		She just pulls any kind of garbage out of her whatever so that way she can, you know, continue the grift because she doesn't answer questions.
		She's always got people hanging on the ledge.
		People can infer their own ideas from the things that she says.
		And people eat it up because it's just gossipy, a true crime graph.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Do you think this will have strong implications on the trial?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, 100%.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I think that the, I think that there was a hearing today.
		It was the first time that Robinson was in court, and it was really interesting to watch.
		There was a lot of legal jargon, and I was with my team, and we were like, okay, what does that mean?
		What does this mean?
		And we were trying to figure it out.
		But one thing that was really important to both the defense and the prosecution.
		And so you have the defense, the prosecution, and then you have two lawyers in there that are represented in media, right?
		Two different groups of media that are in there saying, like, we need access.
		This is a 1A situation.
		And so they're all negotiating different things, dates and, you know, what's permissible and media access and all of these things.
		And one of the things that was true for all three of those groups of attorneys was that they were all saying that the trial needed to be very clearly transparent and fair.
		You know, that was the key thing.
		And pretty much everything they were arguing about was how to ensure that the trial was as just and fair as possible.
		And that's their biggest concern with having media in there, with all of this talk that they had about what's classified as a witness.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But the question is: are the manipulations and lies from Candace Owens going to affect the outcome later on?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I think anything that jurors hear ahead of time is going to impact it.
		We see that with past trials as well.
		Like if there's the more publicity, I mean, I think that we can be worried about the Luigi Mangione case, Mangione case, as well, because you have all these people out there just being super supportive of the alleged killer as opposed to looking for justice.
		They're looking for all of these reasons why he's not the guy.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Reminds me of during the George Floyd, during the Derek Chauvin trial, when they wanted to change a venue and they didn't get it.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they didn't get it.
		And then you also had jurors after the fact saying that they didn't necessarily believe that Chauvin killed him, but they thought that he wasn't compassionate enough for it.
		You have had cops come out after that saying the knee hold or whatever it is was standard police procedure and Chauvin followed it.
		And the cops have come out and been like, so police brass essentially lied when they said that he wasn't supposed to do that.
		That was part of our training.
		And there was a lot of stuff in the Chauvin case where ahead of time, you even, I think, had the, I think you even had like the governor being like, this guy has to be convicted.
		You had a lot of people being like, this guy has to be convicted.
		Even Joe Biden, I think, at the time, was demanding that Chauvin be convicted before he'd seen the evidence.
		And it was all just prejudicial.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then the judge said that it was impossible to have a fair trial, but they wouldn't move.
		And I think that's grounds for total dismissal.
		Instead, they had a biased jury that came in surrounded by men with guns as rioters burnt down the city.
		And they were supposed to give an honest assessment of what actually happened.
		What I absolutely love about the Chauvin trial was when the police testified from, it was actually the defense that brought this up, the continuum on the use of force.
		They said that Chauvin was actually entitled based on the resisting of arrest from Floyd to use a taser to escalate from a physical restraint to an impact weapon and chose not to, which clearly shows that he limited the use of force against George Floyd.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Would that have been because he was saying that he was having trouble breathing and the use of a taser would be.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, He could have taser.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		So I'm saying, is that why he probably chose not to rather than no?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Because he should have.
		George Floyd was physically resisting arrest when Chauvin arrived.
		This is a guy who fought his way out of a vehicle.
		And according to police training, he could have drawn his taser and shocked him.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Oh, he said he had problems breathing after he was already in the car.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		And then he fought his way out.
		And Chauvin opted for a leg on the neck restraint on the neck slash back.
		You know, it's, you know.
		And they still said he was guilty.
		Because if you're in the jury and you walk into the building surrounded by a bunch of guys with guns as people are burning the city down, and what was it?
		What case was it where the pig's head was sent to the person's house?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I forgot about that one.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if that was Chauvin.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I don't remember.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Or like Rittenhouse or something.
		But yeah, the jury gets the message.
		And the judge was told they need to move venues.
		And he says there's nowhere in the state where you'll get a fair trial.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		The media is poisoning the well on Mangione, too.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Remember, I just literally, Tim, I sent you a message the other day about like there was an article on TMZ that just called him the killer rather than putting alleged in front of it, which they should be doing until he's prosecuted anyways.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So now you have like the story that I told where I met three young men who said, you know, what do you think?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it was an expert witness in the Chauvin trial.
unidentified		Yeah, he had a pig's head at his home.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		Message loud and clear.
		And then I met these three young guys, they're Gen Z, and they believe everything Candace said.
		They were like, Israel killed Charlie Kirk.
		And they were like, that's what you, they said they believe Candace.
		And this is the narrative that she has created.
		So her show getting as much viewership as it does, these people are going to be called to testify or they're going to be called to the jury and they're going to have a very difficult time finding an untainted jury pool because they're going to be like, I heard it was Israel.
		What about the Bush?
		And they're going to be like, there's no Bush.
		What about that secret underground hatch?
		And they're like, you're talking about a control panel.
		And they're going to be like, but what about the Egyptian airplanes?
		And they go, that's not real.
		Okay, this jury's out.
		This juror is out.
		And it's going to be a ton of them.
		And then the worst thing, some of them will just lie because their attitude is going to be, I have to take this into my own hands to expose them.
		And Candace Owens already said she thought that Tyler Robinson was innocent.
		So here we go.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		Do you really think that I feel like a lot of this is on X and in Candace World, average people on the street, it hasn't made it to the level of riots in the street?
		When you're comparing the cases, the George Floyd case, it was present in the streets everywhere, riots.
		It was all over every news channel.
		Feel like some of this is in podcast X World, and maybe average Americans that might be called for the jury pool actually haven't heard about any of this.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I think if you're outside of Utah, that might be the case, but I think that in Utah, which is obviously the jurisdiction, I think that people are probably acutely aware of it.
		And I imagine they're more, you know, they're more receptive to the media that's going on.
		Not saying that you're wrong, but I think that I think you're right in other places as it gets further away.
		But in Utah, this is, you know, Utah is not the most populous state, specifically in, you know, it was in the Salt Lake area.
		I mean, it's a fairly, it's, it's, it's a fairly small community, and I think that people are probably what?
unidentified		Utah County?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Utah County?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		When I, yes, yourself.
unidentified		Okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		When I, when I, I'll finish.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		But I just, I think, like I said, I think you're, I think you're right nationally, but I imagine in Utah, where they need to find the jury, it's probably a little more cute.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think it's going to be saturated in Utah because these are people who are searching for it.
		So who has done a show consistently talking about this more than anybody else, Candace Owens?
		And so I imagine the people in these communities are going to be going online and looking more into it because they're being affected by it.
		And they're going to find the one show that keeps doing it.
		But more importantly, part of the breaking point for me was when I bumped into three random Gen Z guys and they were like, Candace says Israel's trying to kill her and they killed Charlie Kirk.
		And I have to be like, let me ask you a bunch of questions.
		And then it turns out they believe a bunch of D-range nonsense.
		So yeah, it's absolutely reaching normies.
		These are not kids who watch the news.
		These were young guys just out on a Friday night.
		That's how widespread her stuff has become.
		And she brags about it.
		She brags about it.
		Let's jump to the story from Newsweek.
		This is the major breaking news.
		Charlie Kirk's accused killer, Tyler Robinson, smiles in first court appearance.
		They say Tyler Robinson, who previously appeared only by audio and video feed from jail, entered the courtroom wearing a dress shirt, tie, and slacks with restraints on his wrists and ankles.
		The AP reported that he smiled towards family members seated in the front row.
		His mother wiped away tears as his father and brother sat beside her.
		Closed circuit video from the courtroom also shows Robinson smiling and laughing while commenting to one of his attorneys.
		A state judge is weighing the public's right to transparency against concerns from Robinson's defense team that intense media scrutiny could jeopardize his ability to receive a fair trial.
		I think that's a silly prospect.
		I also think there's something particularly telling in all this.
		Why hasn't his parents come out and claimed he was innocent?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Has that happened?
		No, they have not.
		They haven't said anything.
		And they have been speaking with him virtually.
		And they have, you know, they haven't said anything publicly.
		I think they might be under a gag order, but even so, if it were my son and he was innocent and I was under a gag order, I would go to prison screaming for his innocence.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		Didn't his father turn him in?
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		Am I?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah.
		I mean, if you, that's exactly right.
		So the day after Charlie was killed, the FBI released the surveillance video.
		There was some internal discussion in Utah as to whether that video should be released.
		And in fact, his mother and father were able to recognize him from the video.
		And the sheriff in, what is it, George County?
		Is that what it is?
		Where Robinson is from, gave a whole press conference about exactly what went down.
		And so the parents had recognized him.
		They called him.
		They tried to get in touch with him.
		They brought, they said, you know, why don't you come home and we'll talk about it?
		He didn't live with them, but, you know, come back to the childhood home.
		They talked about it.
		They ended up contacting a friend of theirs who was in law enforcement.
		This is all from the sheriff's press conference.
		They ended up contacting a family friend who was in law enforcement who helped them facilitate turning him in and the conditions by which he would go turn himself in.
		And among those conditions were that his parents could stay with him the whole time until the police in the jurisdiction were able to come get him.
		So he sat with his parents for three hours in that sheriff's office and the sheriff didn't question him, didn't do anything.
		They were just waiting for the jurisdiction police to come down and pick him up, which they did.
		But yeah, the sheriff was very clear exactly what went on.
		And in fact, in that press conference, part of why he was giving that press conference was to explain that one of his former deputies or something who had the same name as the law enforcement friend of the family was not the guy.
		He was like, stop harassing this guy.
		This was not the guy.
		And yeah, that's what happened.
		And since then, his parents have been silent.
		They've been communicating with him virtually.
		And today it was reported that they were actually, his parents plus another relative were in the courtroom.
		And when the and at a certain point, the judge said, you know, we're going to close to we're going to close to press right now and we'll bring press back in a little, but we're going to close right now so that we can talk about some different security matters for this case.
		And the, I think it was the prosecutors stood up and said, you know, his family is here.
		Can they stay for this?
		And the judge said, no, they can't stay.
		And so there were reports on Twitter from Brian Enton, who's a reporter.
		And he was saying, he was in the courtroom and he said, now his mother's out here in the hall crying, you know, and she's just out here with the rest of us.
		Yeah.
		So it's pretty crazy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Candace had stated that she thought Robinson was innocent or something to that effect.
		And I think, you know, it's been a while since you talked about it, but that his parents didn't actually turn him in or something to that effect.
		She has questioned the official narrative.
		And there are a lot of people that believe the parents actually didn't turn him in and none of this is true.
		But the parents were sitting right there.
		They've not come out and said, our child is innocent or anything like that.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		No.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They have every opportunity to do that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And that's something typical that happens in defense when someone's family member is being prosecuted, but they're not.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Have we learned anything about what their defense is intending to say?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		No, we have not.
		They have been pretty closed about it.
		They're really intent on keeping cameras out of the courtroom and they're really intent on this up.
		He hasn't entered a plea yet.
		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is weird.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I don't, if it were my kid and I believed in his innocence, like, you know, you guys are parents, you'd go to the mat.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		You know?
		Yeah.
		Yeah.
		So I think it's, I mean, I think it's got to be devastating for the, you know, I, I, I have grace, feelings of grace for everybody involved in this, and I, I feel badly for his parents.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		For anyone that's not conspiracy-minded, the evidence that you that is publicly available makes you say, yeah, it was probably that kid.
		Obviously, you have to wait for the court case, and obviously things can come out in the trial and stuff.
		But unless you're the kind of person that is already incredibly skeptical of the government and incredibly skeptical of the official narrative and you don't have ulterior motives, this is kind of like, yeah, I mean, it looks like the kid did it.
		You know, the parents turned him in, got these emails and or these text messages.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		There were also Discord messages that he sent to his like gaming friends.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		There was talk about it prior to the past.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		There were always the text messages to the Lance Twigs.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		To think that it wasn't him or to be so strongly, to believe so strongly that it wasn't his him to say, we have to find, you know, find the real killer and we need to ask all these questions.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		You have to be incredibly conspiracy-minded and you have to be generally too online, to your point.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		There's also kind of this thing of like Charlie was so big, right?
		He was such a big thought leader in this movement.
		He touched everybody's lives.
		He held so many people together who, you know, adored him and maybe didn't like each other.
		And so to think that like some twerpey, you know, lots of things I won't say on air kid would just could take someone like that down.
		It is kind of hard to believe that just because just of like, you know, the stature, it's such a, you know, like, you know, you know, anyone is vulnerable, but anyone is vulnerable to something like that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know what really fascinates me?
		The people who follow Candace are willing to believe that the French Foreign Legion and Israel are trying to kill her, but not that a crackpot leftist killed Charlie Kirk, right?
		We literally watched video of Tesla's burning of people getting out of vehicles.
		Like there's a video of a car on a highway, speeding up in front of a woman, slamming his brakes on, getting out and screaming at her because you know Tesla.
		We've seen news reports of Tesla's unloaded upon.
		There is video of a man walking up to a Trump supporter and yelling, what did he say?
		Like we got one here or something like that.
		And then he puts two bullets in the chest of Aaron Danielson.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And so when we find, when we, when there's a shooting at a university and Charlie is speaking, and quick work, they find a suspect with leftist sympathies, a trans boyfriend, and these chats from leftists and trans people online saying something is going to happen to Charlie.
		It's like, wow, there's a preponderance of evidence here.
		Let's see what else they present in trial.
		And there are people going, nah, I can't believe that at all.
		But the French Foreign Legion, Emmanuel Macron, and Israelis are currently out to get Candace.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Well, people were primed from COVID to not trust government narratives on just about every level.
		And it kind of ties in also with a lot of distrust with the FBI right now because people didn't think, don't think Kash Patel is doing the job he's supposed to be doing.
		So you can't have a movement that's been unbelievably critical of official narratives for such a long time and not expect something like this to eventually come to a head and go off the rails at a certain point.
		I think it was, I think it was fodder.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think it was perfect timing for that.
		When we had this incident Saturday morning, there were people tweeting that the shooting, before any information came out, they were saying that it was because Milo was speaking the truth and they were trying to stop us.
		Not a joke.
		They were tweeting that Milo came on the show and he was speaking the truth and so someone was sent to stop them.
		It is actually really simple.
		Our security reported a Grace Adana had been circling the building all day and they were keeping an eye out.
		And then a similar vehicle, similar looking vehicle, opened fire around midnight.
		It is scary to realize that one crazy person who has a legal weapon and knows where you are can end you, be you famous or otherwise.
		Why is it so hard to believe that Tyler Robinson is the person?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It's actually not.
		That was kind of my point earlier.
		It's not hard to believe.
		You have to be motivated to not believe it.
		Or at least to be like, no, this is definitely not it.
		We need to find the real truth.
		You have to have a motivation.
		And to your point, Brett, the real damage from COVID is that people just don't believe anything.
		There were so many people that in the beginning of COVID, they got taken.
		They were like, you know, everyone believed that COVID was going to be the end of the world and it was going to be the new pandemic that really killed billions and billions of people and all of this stuff.
		And so there's a lot of people that are just like, I'm not going to get taken again.
		So if the government says it, it definitely isn't true.
		And again, it doesn't matter that it's not actually the FBI doing the investigation, that it's the state of Utah.
		It doesn't matter.
		It's the authority and the people that are motivated to say, I don't believe the authority, no matter what they tell me, they're definitely lying.
		And part of this, to your point again, like I said, like you said, the problem, it rests with the government.
		It's because they were actually deceptive to the American people about COVID.
		When people were like, oh, you can't go to the, you know, you have to stand six feet away from people, but it's perfectly fine if you're out protesting for George Floyd.
		People were just like, man, this is all BS.
		And rightly so, you know?
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		I think the bigger problem is people can't critical think.
		And so I wonder what this age range is of people, A, that were taken during COVID, you know, tricked during COVID and now woke up and are angry.
		And then I wonder of the people now that are online that are so gullible in believing everything in anything and following it.
		Is that the younger generation?
		It's because of the lack of education and the ability to critical think.
		You know, we, we've seen that happen over the last five years.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I don't think you're wrong, but I do honestly, I think that I think you're right.
		It is the gullible people.
		And there's a certain amount of ego that goes along with it.
		If you're a little below average of intelligence, you definitely don't want to think that people are smarter than you.
		And you want to sit and you want to be able to say, look, I'm actually smart.
		I know the real stuff.
		And you see it all over the internet.
		People that are just like, you're dumb because you believe this.
		I'm the smart one.
		And you can, I mean, I see it in my mentions all the time.
		People, they don't just say, nah, man, that's wrong.
		It's, you're an idiot.
		I'm so much smarter than you.
		I'm better than you.
		And it's a ton of ego.
		It's an ego boost.
		It makes people, it makes people feel good about themselves to say, you're dumb.
		And I'm the one with the special knowledge, the insider knowledge, because I watch Candace Owens.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		It almost makes you wish to pull it back to life.
		Like people learned my life that participate in my life.
		They don't quite say it that derogatory, but they say, you'll see.
		When you figure it out, let me know.
		When you learn, when you understand.
		And I'm like, oh, good grief.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Well, we do have a sort of feeling in our culture that there's always, it's like, I often think that America is a place that is so addicted to the concept of authenticity that we're constantly trying to peel back the onion to find the real thing.
		What's the real thing?
		What's the real thing?
		And maybe it's because we're a young country and we don't have the kind of ancient thing where like if you're doing a public works project in Greece, you start digging and then you're like, damn it, ruins.
		Oh, you know, like now I have to, now it's a historical site and we have to put the public thing somewhere else.
		You know what I mean?
		My uncle had a BNB in Crete and he used to make this, he and my aunt, and he's since passed.
		But he used to make this joke that if you find ruins in your backyard, chuck them over the fence in your neighbor's yard so that it's their problem.
		You know, you don't want the ruins at your house because then you have to stop work or whatever.
		But I think we're hooked on this idea that there's always something deeper and something more nefarious going on.
		And, you know, sometimes that's just not what's happening.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's jump to this next story and get serious with these midterms.
		We've got this from Media.
		Indiana Senate votes against Trump-backed redistricting plan.
		Surprise, surprise.
		Let's pull up this tweet actually from Tony Cook.
		He says, breaking, Indiana Senate votes down redistricting bill, breaking with President Trump.
		And you can see the nays, 31, the yays, 19.
		And I have this clip here from Greg Price.
		He says, Indiana Senate Majority Leader Chris Garten just gave a fiery speech in favor of the 9-0 map.
chris garten ▲ ● ▼		Some will say these maps are political.
		Let me be clear.
		You're damn right they are.
		Policy is political.
		Safe streets are political.
		Look at Indianapolis.
		Affordable electricity is political.
		A drug-free Indiana is political.
		Peace in the Middle East is political.
		I dealt with it firsthand.
		If drawing a map that secures two more seats for the Republican Party means that we continue to see overdose deaths drop by 20%, Then I'll draw that map every single day of the week and twice on Sunday.
		If Toronto map means that we'll continue to see a 93% drop in illegal immigration, then I'll sign it with a smile on my face.
		We're not here to be neutral arbiters of decline.
		We're here to be active agents of American greatness.
unidentified		Wow.
chris garten ▲ ● ▼		So I ask you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I wish I had 2% of the fiery passion and charisma that man has.
chris garten ▲ ● ▼		I'm riled up.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I want more of that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We got this from Tyler Boyer at Turning Point.
		It says, Turning Point Action will be publicly endorsing opponents of the state senators who voted against the redistricting today.
		They thought we were bluffing.
		No, we will educate voters and throw thousands of volunteers and staff at their local districts.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Let's go.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And real quick, I just got to shout out that Chris Garden once again.
		Man, that guy needs to run for the Senate or something.
		I'd like to see that guy in federal politics.
		But, you know, I respect him fighting for his state.
		That's beautiful.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Libby, you were saying earlier they have a supermajority in Indiana and they still didn't make it, right?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, 19 Republicans voted against this, and they all should be absolutely ashamed of themselves.
		You have the entire Democratic Party working so hard to do all kinds of really stupid, stupid things from flood our nation with illegal immigrants and trans our kids and push DEI in schools, even though it doesn't actually do anything positive for the kids.
		It just makes everything worse.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Literally, like if people are upset about Nick Fuentes, DEI is why Nick Fuentes exists.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, because the thing is, like I was just, Tina and I were just talking about this before the show.
		There was this educational hearing in the Kentucky state legislature, and you have this one state senator being like, hey, we got to get rid of DEI in schools because all of our kids are failing everything and our discipline problems.
		And everybody else is like, but there's discrimination.
		And so this is, we have to fix it.
		And it's like, okay, first of all, maybe there's discrimination at this point.
		I don't really think there is.
		You know, they're all living 50 years ago in some sort of time capsule.
		And then the other piece of it is, just because you've identified a problem doesn't mean that the proposed solution is the one that's going to fix it.
		Like you're idiots, you know, like just because you think like, oh, there's this issue, there's discrimination, actually, you know, what they believe is being discriminatory.
		They're sort of circa 1960.
		They don't really identify what's going on.
		They live in their own stupid bubbles.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		You're channeling this energy now.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I was writing about this lady last night.
		Sarah Stalker from Kentucky is a complete and total moron, and she should be ashamed of herself.
		She went out there on the state legislature and she was like, I don't like being white all the time.
		And children need to know about their historical privilege.
		No, they don't, idiot.
		Don't go around telling children that there's something wrong with them because of the color of their skin.
		Like, that's racist.
		That gif of the kid, that's racist.
		That's racist.
unidentified		You fool.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		And like, I saw the Sarah Stalker clip.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I actually put it in the IRS Slack.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Let's grab it.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		But Cernovich was talking about it.
		And I watched the whole hearing.
		I tweeted about it.
		And I was like, this is why so many people, so many young white men think that Nick Fuentes is compelling.
		Because you're telling them that they're evil by nature of their skin color.
		And then you have public policy that is literally oppressing them, that is ostracizing them, that you're keeping them out of colleges.
		They're not getting jobs.
		They're not going out and meeting girls.
		What do you think is going to happen when you tell an entire generation of young men that they are inherently evil?
		They're going to coalesce around the thing that makes them all the same, and that's their white skin.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The bigger picture I see here with the Indiana Senate is that people are begging Republicans to do anything.
		And Republicans are begging them to accept them doing nothing.
		So the Republicans are getting very little done.
		And now in Indiana, where they have an opportunity, they're basically doing nothing.
		So if you want to get people to come out in the midterms and rally, I understand it's like the last two months of the race that really matter most and right now will be forgotten within a few months.
		But you better do a lot more than this because it seems like they're trying to lose.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		You've got California, Gavin Newsom, he got his whole Prop 50 passed.
		They're going to eliminate Republican seats essentially in the state.
		You had all of these states in New England being like, we're going to redistrict too.
		And it's like, you're already entirely blue.
		You know, you like redistrict what?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		40% of New England voted for Donald Trump and those people have no representation at all.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I was back visiting family outside of Boston just over Thanksgiving and I was talking to them about it and they were like, yeah, we don't have a vote.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		We're not represented at all.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I feel, you know, I feel really bad for like the worst, the team over at 270 to win.
		Because, you know, they have this election tracker map for the House and the Senate and the presidency every election.
		And it's going to keep changing because everyone is redistricting now to try and gain advantages.
		So it's going to, here's the amazing thing.
		You can see that there's 185 deep red and there's 167 deep blue.
		And then there's a gradient in between.
		It's going to turn into a solid red and blue line.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's the plan.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And the reason why I say I feel bad for him is because they're going to have to keep updating their code being like, yeah, it's like one IT guy and they're like, not an IT guy, but like a software dev guy.
		And they're just saying, hey, look, another state's redistricting.
		And he's like, I'll go fix it.
		It's like, want to change everything again?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		He's like, I'm not checking out.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to squiggle lines.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Here's what I find really interesting, actually, is I want to pull up.
		Let me see if I can pull up the prediction market here.
		Let's see.
		Let's grab which party will win in the House from Caul Shi.
		So we've got this from Caul Shi.
		Currently, the Democratic Party is at 74% favorability to win control of the House in the midterms.
		But as each state does or does not redistrict, it's going to cause massive swings in their prediction market.
		This is going to be interesting if people are accounting for it.
		Now, Indiana just said, no, Democrats should tick slightly upward.
		They don't want to redistrict.
		I've got this here.
		Let me pull up.
		Where did I just put that thing?
		Here we go.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		You think Jasmine Crockett will win in Texas?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Win the Senate?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No way.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		You don't think so?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Weirdest thing happens.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Oh, she's running for Senate now instead.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Check us out.
		Current midterm redistricting status.
		California D plus five, Utah D plus one.
		You've got pending Democrat redistricting, Virginia D plus two, Maryland D plus one.
		And then you've got confirmed Republican with Texas, Missouri, Indiana, Ohio, North Carolina for 11 new seats.
		And pending, you've got Kansas, Tennessee, Alabama, Georgia, Florida, a total of 10 possibilities.
		The potential total is going to be Republican plus 21 and Democrat plus 9.
		This is crazy.
		Basically, every state now has decided to, in the middle of the decade, redistrict to try and win the midterms.
		Civil war much?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I think it makes sense, though, because you had the census, and okay, that's fine.
		But then Biden imported, what?
		How many?
		Like 10, 20 million illegal immigrants, just let everybody in and distributed them all over the country on free flights.
		No one even knew that these people were showing up in their communities until they were just there, giving them all kinds of money and free phones and whatever else, and then work authorizations after 180 days.
		And then also, what else did he do?
		He just dismissed like some 70% or something like that of asylum cases.
		So there's all these people who were seeking asylum and now they're just in the country.
		They have no legal status.
		They don't have to leave.
		So what are they doing there?
		Well, they're beefing up Democrat numbers in these districts.
		So it kind of makes sense for all of these places to be like, listen, you dumped heaps of new people on us who can't vote, but who we're supposed to try and represent.
		And now we have to kind of change things.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think that, you know, I also just think I don't want to go back to a time where we're forced to get medications, can't go out and eat unless we wear two masks.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So I'm willing to just vote Republican, even if they are just like a turtle in the middle of the road slowing your car down.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		My favorite was Alyssa Milano's crocheted mask.
		Yep.
		How she had to act like she didn't, how she had to act like she knew it didn't actually protect anything.
		She was like, no, I knew that it had holes in it.
		Yeah, I knew it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Crocheted.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it was crocheted.
		It was a picture, a selfie, of her and her husband and their kids in their car, and they all had like normal masks.
		And she was like, mine is pretty.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's pull up that video we've got this year from rep Sarah Stalker.
		I have guilt every day for being white and kids should too.
		Children.
sarah stalker ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to be honest.
sarah stalker ▲ ● ▼		I don't feel good about being white every day for a lot of reasons.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Retardation.
sarah stalker ▲ ● ▼		That's the point of it.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		That's the biggest one.
sarah stalker ▲ ● ▼		That I get to move through the world in a way that so many of my other colleagues and friends and family members of the community don't get the privilege to do.
		And I'm just a female, but just a woman, just a white woman.
		If I was a white man, I would be from a point of even greater privilege.
		I think we're missing an opportunity when kids.
		When kids have a moment to reflect about how the color of their skin does and does not allow them to move through the world, running to them and trying to stifle that and trying to say, you shouldn't feel bad.
		So we don't want to ever expose you to something that is going to make you have to pause and have maybe some internal feelings.
		It's a missed opportunity for some really good dialogue.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Have you noticed how she keeps whistling on her S's?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I was wrong, by the way.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		21 Republicans voted against, 19 voted for.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I thought it was one.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I thought it was in that story, it shows 31 nays, 19 yays.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well, someone from my team was just like, you were wrong.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So was it like bill to quash this or something?
unidentified		I don't know.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So anyway, this video that you posted, Libby, is it slightly different?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I think it's a longer one, but I have another one here.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Let me give you the answer.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You said more?
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		No.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		Please don't make me watch anything like that again.
		Listen, we cannot have someone like that and her people in charge of this country again.
		You're talking about the midterms.
		You're talking about redistricting.
		I'm sitting over here.
		I'm thinking about what happened in my state of Miami this past week with their mayor election.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		How did that happen?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		A Democrat won in Miami?
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		Did you see this?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Wasn't it last?
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		You just said plus 10 and plus five or 10 seats in Florida.
		Like we are, we have over a million Republican voters in our state.
		Miami hasn't had a Democrat in charge, I don't know, 40, 50, 60 years or something like that.
		It is crazy.
		And I'm listening to people that are having these other off-elections in places around the country.
		And they're losing.
		The Republicans and the conservatives are losing everywhere.
		And if we don't get our act together, if the Republicans don't get their heads out of their rear ends, and this, I get fired up and I get angry, very, very angry because what they did to kids under the Biden administration, what they did to moms under the Biden administration, we cannot have that woman back in power.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What is this woman's name, Libby?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Sarah Stalker.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		She really helps me understand bang Zoom straight to the moon.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		They're all like this, though.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		That lady next to her, she said.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		She might be the only one old enough to get that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Did you understand what I just said?
unidentified		No.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		To the moon, Alice.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Oh, to the moon, Alice.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I get Alice.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It was a joke implying that Her incessant nagging makes me want to strike her.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think that's a good idea.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's a joke I don't really want to.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's from the honeymooners.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I think that show was a little problematic, and there was probably a lot of domestic violence.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		One of the best jokes ever was Futurama when they go to the moon and the whalers on the moon.
		They're like, early Earth astronauts were very fat.
		And he's like, one of these days, Alice, bang, zoom, straight to the moon.
		And no, no, no.
		And then Lila was like, I didn't realize astronauts are so fat.
		And then he goes, he's not an astronaut.
		He was just using space travel as a metaphor for beating his wife.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		The point about this woman, this is a woman in a position of authority.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		You know, literally saying people should, children should feel inherently bad about their skin color.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Wait, we should play this clip.
sarah stalker ▲ ● ▼		Within JCPS, we have a really diverse body of students.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We need a DSI.
sarah stalker ▲ ● ▼		We have 145 languages that are spoken, and we have a really high percentage of kids that are on free and reduced lunch.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Bro, she's Cobra Commander.
sarah stalker ▲ ● ▼		In the term DEI, I, inclusive, diversity, equity, inclusion.
		Inclusion.
		It's about including everyone.
		White people have never been excluded.
		What the efforts of DEI is trying to do within a school setting now is to pull in other students.
		Their stories are relative.
		Their culture, their history, those things are important to see reflective in the reading material.
		And if we don't allow those things to come into our textbooks and to come into our conversations in a class, in the classroom, and in a constructive way, then we are simply just trying to whitewash things.
		And I find that to be incredibly problematic.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's it.
		I'm Saudi Arabia.
		Here I come.
		Sharia law.
		All of it.
		I'm just repealed the 19th doesn't go far enough.
		She has convinced me.
		Not only was she doing a vocal fry, but she was also hissing.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Yes, she's awful.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And I, you know what?
		By all means, everyone now pile on and talk about the things that she said, the merit of her ideas being bad.
		And then I'm just going to be like, but she was vocal frying.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		She's awful.
		Everything about her is awful.
		And that little glasses next to her, she sucks too.
		She said stupid stuff, also.
		They all said stupid stuff.
		And in fact, I was going to clip way more of this.
		And then I had to go do more of my job instead of pay attention to these idiot women.
		But they're so foolish because they act like they're saying something that is really profound.
		And they're saying that this woman's solution, getting rid of DEI, is bad because of all of their ideological whimsy, but it's founded in nothing.
		And you had this woman glasses over here.
		She was like, you know, can you show me some studies, peer-reviewed studies?
		Or no, it wasn't her.
		It was a different stupid woman in this legislation.
		It's all women in this legislature.
		I don't know what Kentucky is doing wrong, but they're really not sending their best to run this state.
		You know, they've like just gone way too far in the other direction.
		And the couple of men that did speak up in this hearing, they were like so meek about it.
		And I was like, fellas, fellas.
		Grab your balls and stand up.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Look, if men.
unidentified		No, no, no.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Listen, it's a testosterone.
		These guys, they need to take, they did a drop drown and put a red light on their balls to get a testosterone back.
		The only thing that's happening.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		They got to do something.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I guarantee if men stood up and sounded assertive, these women would say that they're trying to intimidate them.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It would be all, I don't know what, if there's hate, but then they might fall in love with them.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Then they might fall in love.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Then they might fall in love.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I was going to say, Phil, if these men stood up and talked back, they'd say, you, you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's what they'd do.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, possibly, but probably not these guys.
unidentified		No.
sarah stalker ▲ ● ▼		She's not.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		People like the people like this that believe this stuff.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		If a man were to stand up and say, no, you're wrong and blah, blah, and be in an assertive way, they would see he was being toxically masculine and that would, it was, it was an unsafe environment, and they would use all of the buzzwords, and these guys would get censured in the Kentucky state legislature or whatever.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I know what to do.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I want to tell you guys about chickens, but hear me out.
unidentified		Okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So I'm sure all of you know about the pecking order.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You've heard this, right?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's because chickens.
		Hens, the females, they all create a pecking order, which is they peck at each other and then eventually figure out who's the, you know, the super hen, who's in charge.
		And then there's a, a, a, a hierarchy, essentially.
		Roosters kind of have this.
		People believe that if you put two roosters in the same coop, they'll fight.
		That's not true.
		They stay away from each other so long as there's enough ladies to go around.
		So the guys will kind of just back off and they'll have their harem or whatever.
		Now, here's the thing.
		They did an experiment where they said, what happens if we take the alpha hen at the top of the pecking order, another one from a different coop, and we put them all in one coop?
		Will it create a new pecking order?
		No, they all murdered each other.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And so I'm saying we should take people like her and Elizabeth Warren and the rest of them and create a special legislative body for all of them so they can just scream at each other.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		You could do that, but if you put AOC in there, they'll just all, then it would create a new pecking order and she'd be in charge.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		You let them do that.
		You don't give them any actual voting power.
		They just get to argue amongst themselves.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's cathartic.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		All right.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		I have a real solution not to plug my organization, but the whole point of Moms for Liberty.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		You have a great organization, though.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		Appreciate it.
		I mean, the whole point of Moms for Liberty when we started, and the reason it was titled Moms for Liberty, and it was a women's-based organization, is because we saw the lay of the land.
		And men really, especially in 21 when we launched, it was hard for them to stand up at school board meetings where you have these other women standing there for exactly what you're saying, the optics of what was going on.
		It was when the Biden administration was like, the proud boys, this, that.
		Men were really being marginalized.
		And so in order to combat this woman, you're right.
		I don't know that you could go stand in there and all your manly self and combat her in a fair fashion because she'll play victim.
		You'll look like the big, mean, bad guy.
		You need another mom.
		You need a softer, a softer, an equivalent woman in there that can speak intelligently, that understands all the wrongs that this woman and her people are doing and can combat it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The issue that I see is that 50 Shades of Gray sold 150 million copies, and now you've got Minotaur Milking Farm or whatever it's called.
		Is that Morning Glory Milking Farm?
		Brett, I don't know why you know the title.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		We talked about it on the show.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I haven't read it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I have a great memory and I still can't remember the title of that book.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Wait, is this that handmade thing?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Have you guys seen the handmade thing?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, The Morning Glory Milking Farm is the new bestseller that women love, which is very similar to 50 Shades of Gray.
		So if you're not familiar, have either of you, are you either familiar?
		I'd imagine you're neither was it.
		So 50 Shades of Gray is a college grad woman with debt.
		She can't afford to pay it back.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		And it's kind of like Secretary, right?
		With James Spader.
		She meets watch that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		She meets a billionaire who puts her in a slave contract where he beats her and she loves it.
		And it sold 150 million copies because women loved it.
		And Morning Glory Milking Farm is basically the same thing.
		A young woman graduates college, but she can't pay off her debt.
		So she takes a job at a glory hole facility where Minotaurs go to get milked by young women.
		And it's like a bestseller.
		It's massive and women love it.
		My point is, the things that motivate women are very different from the things that motivate men.
		And there's this trope, this idea, right?
		There's the male power fantasy.
		When you watch a movie like Spider-Man from the 2000s, there's a really great example of the male power fantasy.
		And that is the green goblin captures a school bus full of children and Peter's loving just married Jane.
		And he says, what'll it be, Peter?
		Marry Jane or suffer the children.
		And Spider-Man saves them both.
		Because that's the male power fantasy.
		Or like when Spider-Man's in the train, screaming, and like he's being ripped apart, but he saves everyone.
		The female power fantasy is represented in rom-coms, where the woman trounces about doing whatever she wants and gets whatever she wants in the end.
		That's the trope.
		If you watch rom-coms, it's just she goofs off, screws around at work, you know, or she like ditches her husband for some new guy she just met.
		Or there's that new show called Dying for Sex, where a woman who was with her husband for 15 years gets stage four cancer, a terminal diagnosis, so she says, I'm leaving you, and then she goes and bangs 200 guys.
unidentified		That's nasty.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		These are the shows, and I'm not saying all women are like this.
		I'm saying so long as you have these macro trends of we can see what it is that women will generally choose, it is absurd not to think they will generally choose similar things in politics.
		Now, I am not saying repeal the 19th.
		I don't go that far.
		There's a lot of dumb guys too.
		I'm saying if we don't recognize the tendencies of female macro patterns, we are going to overlook psychopaths like this lady who burned down the system.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		So what you're saying is to get rid of books like Morning Glory Milking Farm, we actually do have to cancel student debt because it's always about debt.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		So make a new book called like, you know, something, it's something about Zorhan Mamdani and like he becomes president somehow.
		They overturn, which amendment is it?
		No, it's actually just in the Constitution, I think.
		It's one of the original articles.
		They pass a new amendment allowing Zoran to be president.
		He cancels student loan debt and then has a harem.
		There you go.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		But all the girls of Williamsburg would love that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I know.
		I'd make a million dollars.
		I should write the book.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Actually, that's a really good idea.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Guys?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So all the guys out there listening to this right now.
		AI is your friend.
		You ask ChatGPT to write you an erotic novel about Zorhan Mamdani canceling student debt, and then you put it on Amazon and then make Facebook ads targeting an Instagram, targeting specifically Williamsburg.
		You make a million dollars overnight.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		But what happens when Mamdani rejects the trans women as being part of his harem?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		And he's just like, no trans women in the harem.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Mamdani.
		There are people out there that swear up and down that Mamdani is an Islamist.
		He's not an Islamist.
		He is only using Islam as a means to avoid being accused of toxic masculinity.
		He is a leftist to his core.
		It has nothing to do with it.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		And we've all seen that little head nod thing.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Has very, very little to do with his religion or with religion at all.
		It's all about leftism for him.
		All right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We got to jump to this next story, which actually I don't know that I we're gonna, I guess, because it's in the news.
		I actually don't know how much I care, but they say mom 58 speaks out an attack at Nick Fuentes' home as he accepts humiliating punishment for pushing her down the stairs.
		Controversial live streamer Nick Fundes has been ordered to attend anger management after pepper spraying a woman and shoving her down the steps of his Chicago area home.
		The far-right provocateur was accused of attacking 58-year-old Marla Rose in an incident she captured on video after knocking on his door in Berwin, Illinois on November 10th, 2024.
		Fuentes, 27, was arrested and charged with one count of misdemeanor battery 17 days later and was released the same day.
		Along with court-mandated anger management course, Fundes must issue a formal apology to Rose in person, compensate her $635 for the cell phone he broke, and complete 75 hours of community service before January 23rd.
		It can't be for white supremacists, Rose quipped in an interview with the Daily Mail, referring to the community service.
		Court records show that Fuentes accepted the terms on Tuesday, two days before he was due to appear in court.
		As part of the deal, there can be no further contact between the two.
		And this is why I chose West Virginia.
		Now, I think the mistake that Nick made is as soon as she went to the, as soon as she knocked on the door, he opened it and pepper sprayed her.
		He probably should have just not gone to the door and should have called the police.
		Yes.
		I do understand, however, I'm not completely faulting him because people were stalking his home and threatening to kill him.
		And then a strange person shows up on his front door.
		And I think it's fair to say he really didn't know what he was doing.
		Because certainly if he's accepting this agreement, if he really thought that he was just or that he was doing was right, he could have pleaded not guilty.
		However, in West Virginia, in order for you to access the property, we are gated.
		And if you trespass on my property and something bad happens, I'll just say that.
		We don't deal with this stuff out here.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		What happens?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		In West Virginia?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Well, let me just remove U.S. violations happen.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Is that right?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, no, I can say.
		I'll put it like this.
		Let's remove everything and just go into a neutral context.
unidentified		Okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There is a, let's start with New Jersey.
		Or we can go Chicago, but New Jersey is a good example.
		One of the worst states.
		A man kicks your door in and screams, I've got a gun and I'm going to kill your family.
		And then he turns and you are in the kitchen and he is standing there and you have a door behind you that leads out into your alley.
		If you say, I won't let you do that and shoot him, you have now murdered someone and that is a crime and you'll be charged with the felony and arrested because you had an exit.
		You could have ran away.
candace owens ▲ ● ▼		Should that live?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		That's trash.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You are forced to retreat from your own home in New Jersey.
		Next up, we have Maryland.
		In Maryland, let's say you and your kids are out playing.
		Let's say you have like five acres and your kids are in the front lawn playing.
		When a man starts walking up and he's got a rifle and he screams, I'm going to kill your family.
		You are required to run into your home and lock the door.
		And only if the person tries to break in can you respond.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Why does the criminal have the moral high ground?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Because these states are evil.
		Then we have West Virginia.
		Somebody, let's say you're on your property, it's five acres or whatever, and someone with a gun steps in front of your property and says, I'm going to kill, bang.
		And they drop dead.
		The police show up and they say, good job.
		Now, wait, it gets crazier than this.
		Let's say you're out on your 100-acre property in West Virginia and you've got a gun.
		It's your property.
		And you see a person on your property walking towards you with a rifle.
		Legally, you can't just kill someone because they're on your property with a weapon.
		It's supposed to be that you fear serious bodily harm or an imminent threat, even if they're on your property.
		That being said, in West Virginia, it is not incumbent upon the property owner to determine or to wait for an extreme circumstance.
		By simple act of a person trespassing and armed, you have a reasonable fear of death.
		Now, they still expect you to give a warning, but I will just say this.
		As it was described to me, I was told by law enforcement, please don't just shoot somebody walking out with a weapon because people hunt and sometimes they make mistakes.
		That being said, there have been many cases where the police have responded to a shooting and there is a dead man with a weapon and a property owner with a weapon and he says this guy was trespassing.
		He raised his weapon.
		I feared for my life.
		And the officers say, case closed.
		Because what can you do?
		You can't trespass on someone's property.
		You were armed.
		There's no witnesses.
		There's no statements.
		So all they can say is the guy feared for his life.
		And that's the way it works.
		Not in Chicago.
		In Chicago, they're going to be like, you're going to prison for the rest of your life.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, all those other states, they also don't seem to believe in private property.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		They're very happy to seize what you've got and give it to somebody else.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		Florida's a pretty good place also, just saying.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but it started to turn blue.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Well, maybe Miami.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		Miami is like a whole other country.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		There was only 22,000 votes that that mayor won.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		If we want to take the conversation back to the Republican Party, we can go back there because I have a lot of frustrations with them.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Do you think the Republicans abandoned Miami?
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		No, I think that they, right now there's so much infighting, even in my state of Florida.
		Like the governor has been fighting our House of Representatives, like our House and Senate, like crazy.
		Things that are going on, there's like this underlying divide between people that are supporting Trump-type candidates and those that are supporting DeSantis candidates.
		Like every state, you know, Monster Liberty is in 48 states, and so I'm watching this unfold state after state.
		South Carolina, between their Freedom Caucus and their non-freedom caucus, Republicans, they are at war.
		They are divided and they are fighting, and it's seeping over into all these other conservative grassroots organizations and it's dividing them.
		It's happening like at the most local levels.
		It's like we can't have nice things.
		We win.
		Now is the time when we should be implementing all these policies and moving forward and making gains.
		And we are in fighting because they're so used to fighting, there's no one left to fight.
		And so they're turning on each other.
		And I'm watching it all the time, every day.
		And it's, I don't want to fury with that woman.
unidentified		It's intimidating.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Yep.
		Well, you know, there's one thing.
		I'm going to get back to her.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		Sorry.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If there's one thing that Candace Owens is doing very well, it's helping Nick Fuentes be mainstream.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Because she's gone so insane.
		Nick has now become the voice of reason in calling her and Ian Carroll out.
		And it's actually really funny.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's, I actually really enjoy it because Nick's segments calling out these conspiracy psychos, they're actually entertaining.
		They're very funny.
		He's a funny guy.
		And you were saying earlier that, what's her name?
		Sarah Stalker?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That it's people like her that made someone like Nick.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I will tell you partially, but the South Side of Chicago makes someone like Nick.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Sure, sure.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it's not a single issue that's made, you know, Nick into the person that he is.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I thought your point was more that they make people, they make Nick viable by creating people that want to listen to him.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, right.
		Because Nick became Nick because of his upbringing, where he's lived, all the things that have happened to Nick are what has made Nick into the person that he is.
		But people that haven't had the same kind of experiences in South Side of Chicago or what have you, just normal, you know, normal guys that listen to him, they're like, well, you know, I've experienced these kind of these insults because I'm a white kid.
		You know, I hear, and it doesn't have to be directed at them.
		Kids that hear that woman talk, they're going to say, oh, she's talking about me and she's talking about my future.
		And they know that their friends that try to go to college, they don't get into the college they want because they're a white kid or whatever, or they don't get a job because they're a white kid and they want to hire someone that's not a white guy.
		These things are very, very tangible to young men.
		And young men already have to deal with the fact that the economy is rough.
		You know, it's hard to get a start.
		You know, young people don't have anything.
		It's tough to start from zero.
		So it's already hard for them.
		So to have people in positions of power.
		And it's not just her.
		Those same kind of ideas are repeated all throughout the Democrat Party.
		So you're hearing people like AOC, you're hearing people like people, members of Congress, people in the Senate, they say the same kind of things.
		So it doesn't matter that this one individual said it.
		This is the overall narrative that you get from the left.
		You even hear the late night guys making jokes about, oh, I'm just a white guy.
		You know, you see it in white guy tacos.
unidentified		Yeah.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		You know, they used exactly.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That tune on mayonnaise.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		You know, you see it in comedies and sitcoms and stuff.
		The father's always a dopey guy and the mother knows everything.
		It's the way that specifically white men are treated by society now because allegedly white men have been in positions of power.
		So now white men can't have nice things.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's white men's fault.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It is.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I'm so sick of that bullshit.
		Well, sorry.
		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, I mean, I mean, I just if white men were in power and they decided to allow people to do all of these things, then who's to blame?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, I think it's terrible.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		A lot of the people that came up with these ideas were white men.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		At some point, some dude was like, you know what's a good idea?
		Women should vote.
		And here we are.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I don't think that's the root of the problem.
		At some point, they said, you know what?
		Everyone should vote.
unidentified		Wrong.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Wrong.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		My answer is.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Here's the important thing.
		Here's the important thing.
		When voting was instituted, it was landowners.
		It was white men.
		And this means that most men weren't voting either.
		Only those who succeeded enough to be able to own property were able to vote.
		And so the issue isn't whether men or women can vote.
		I don't think we should repeal the 19th.
		I think we should introduce a new amendment that says, or I don't even know, we actually don't even need an amendment to the law.
		Upon turning 18, you sign up for selective service, male or female.
		And when you do, they mail you your voter ID card.
		Or they mail you like your registration certificate with your name, which you then bring to the DMV, and you'll get like a voter stamp on your ID or whatever that you can use to vote.
		And if you don't have it, you can't vote.
		And I'm not saying people should be drafted.
		I'm saying you have to at least pledge that should the country fall into a time of need, you will step up in whatever means necessary.
		And you have a right to vote on how that happens.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		There should be tests.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		You should have to actually pass a test.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think I think my solution is, while difficult, yours is way too difficult.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I want it to be too difficult.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm saying you can't implement it.
		The idea that sign up is everyone already signs up for selective service men anyway.
		There's already Democrat pressure to make women do it as well.
		And you could very easily be like, oh, okay, so this is how you register to vote.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but you're just going to end up with the same situation where like anyone signs up for selective service and then they're going to go ahead and be aware of that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You don't have to sign up for selective service.
		So what happens is when the liberal goes to some crackpot on the street and says, you want to sign up to vote?
		They'll be like, hell no, I don't want to get drafted.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		No, I think it's a bad idea because the more brutish looking acting women might want to do it.
		And those of us that might want to have babies and don't want to be drafted.
		I'd rather be.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		80% of women will not sign up.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		No, I want a little more starship troopers in my voting.
		You have to be a citizen and there should be a test.
		There should be some kind of requirement to become a citizen.
		You can be a civilian and you can live in the country and that's fine.
		But you have to be a citizen to vote.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Don't you guys remember?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Don't you remember when Democrats were pushing for women in the draft and all of these feminists started posting videos being like, no, And like, I don't want to be a feminist anymore.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		The same thing happened.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And they were like literally the feminism leaving my body.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		The same thing happened when it came to voting.
		The arguments of the women that were not suffering, non-suffragettes or whatever, the women that didn't think that women should vote, they're like, no, then we're going to have to be responsible.
		Then we're going to blah, blah, blah.
		They didn't want the responsibility.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is my point.
		So go to an 18-year-old woman and say, would you like to vote?
		And they'll say yes.
		Just sign up for the draft.
		And they'll say, yeah, right.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I see.
		I think that they would.
		You think women would sign up for the draft?
		Because they will.
		Because we have a mostly, right now we have a mostly volunteer army.
		And because most people think the American people wouldn't sit and wouldn't stand for a draft.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I will bet you $100.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I will take that bet, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So let's have a proof.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		A lot's going to go to Times Square.
unidentified		Okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And we're going to have him walk up to random men and women.
		And he's going to ask them to actually sign up for the draft and be like, will you sign up right now to be drafted?
		And he's going to ask men and women.
		And I guarantee you it's going to be.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		But there has to be some kind of benefit for it.
		So the vote thing.
		Ask, would they?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'll give you $5 right now to sign up to be drafted.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		No, you have to ask them, would you sign, if it were required to sign up for selective service for the draft in order to vote, would you?
		And the reason I say that is because right now, people think their vote is super important.
		They have been conned into thinking that voting is this amazing power.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Remember, rock the vote, Paris.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, MTV destroyed that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So you actually think there'd be more women than men saying yes.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I think that you had to have most people saying, oh, yeah, whatever, because there hasn't been a draft since Vietnam and everybody protested against it.
		And the government's never going to draft people, blah, blah, blah.
		Yeah, I think that people would assume that there would not be a draft.
		They would assume that there won't be any kind of big, full-scale war that would require draft.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think you're overestimating the intelligence of the average person.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I think, no, well, I'm not saying they're intelligent.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I think that they would just say, no, it's always going to be a situation, the situation that we've seen, which is people don't.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Most people are going to say, I don't want to be drafted.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Even guys.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I'll bring $100 to.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to believe that they're going to sign up.
		But if you're going to do that, you have to find out if they're conservative or liberal.
		Because if you get 100 women, if you ask 190 sign up or 50 sign up, 60 sign up and they're all liberal, like you're going to, if you did that, if that got implemented, I think it would be all liberal women that would sign up.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't think liberal women will sign up at all.
		I think there's like 8% of the population that are leftist.
		It's probably closer to 15 these days because it's been like six years since they did this poll.
		And they might say yes, the women in that bracket, but most women are going to go, huh?
		And you're, don't you guys ever watch the whatever podcast?
		Where it's like, what country?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I find the whatever podcast as hard to watch as watching Sarah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Brian's like, what country are you in?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And they're like, Texas?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but those are not representative of the average woman in this country.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		They might be.
		Thank you.
		They might be.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		I don't know any of them.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I love the one where the children.
		What's her name, Felicity?
		She's like, name one at all.
		She goes, name three countries.
		And the lady's like, I don't want to do this.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		She can't name countries.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		She's like, China, Italy, and France.
		And then she goes to the next woman.
		And the woman goes, Canada, Italy, and France.
		And she's like, you can't use the same ones, pick different ones.
		And she's like, I don't know.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		There's hundreds and hundreds of countries.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's 189, I think.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, 189.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Is it 189?
unidentified		Yeah.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		And the funny thing is, Somalia on the corruption index is like 179 or something.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Corruption.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Are we going to go there now?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		What was it?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Someone said that they were going to start investigating, actually investigating Elhan Omar about whether her, she, she.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Trump.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Trump has been talking about it.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		No, so she did.
		Like, there was a report out in the Daily Mail that said she did marry her brother and that she divorced her husband, married her brother.
		No, no, no.
		She married her brother in a Christian ceremony because nobody thinks that counts in the Muslim community.
		So no, and nobody would know.
		So they just did that.
		And it wasn't that she married him for citizenship reasons.
		She married him so that he could get student loans.
		So it was corruption and fraud.
		It was just fraud.
		It was government loophole.
		Oh, that government money must be for me.
		If we just lie, we can have it.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I really hope that they do investigate and find something and that I would love to see her lose her seat over this.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Go to jail.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What do you mean?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Just get sent back to Somalia.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		That'd be fun.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I would love that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		She would get her citizenship voided because the law is that if you commit immigration fraud, they can remove you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You can be denaturalized.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		And that seems pretty fraudulent, marrying your brother in a fake ceremony so that you can get access to government services.
		And then advocate for the government to forgive those loans.
		So now you're just stealing.
		The hell's that?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I love it.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		He's trying to stop Morning Glory Milking Farm.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We got to talk about this, and I'm just going to default to Brett because I have no idea what's going on, but this is a huge story.
		This is a Kellen story.
		You don't know.
		Anybody here sports?
		This apparently is a really crazy story.
		It's blowing up.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I read this.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Hired Michigan coach Sharon Moore was suicidal after cops were called to his executive assistant's department.
		So my understanding is that he was like, he was cheating.
		He's like an affair.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		With his exec assist.
unidentified		Yeah.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Apparently.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then he was stalking her.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Held a knife to his own throat.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Held a knife to his own throat.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is like the real true crime.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		He broke into somebody else's house to threaten his.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Okay, let me read it.
		Let me read it.
		Sharon Moore, one of the biggest names in college football, threw away his $30 million coaching career and his freedom after getting caught having an affair with a subordinate and then was arrested in the aftermath.
		Within the span of a few hours on Wednesday, Moore, 39, was fired as the University of Michigan's head football coach and arrested on suspicion of assaulting a woman at the home of Paige Shiver, 32, his executive assistant.
		Yo, this is crazy.
		The shocking news came just days after Moore had spoken with reporters as the number 18 ranked Wolverines began to prepare for the Citrus Bowl later this month and it caught the college football world by surprise.
		Moore was booked into the Washtenaw County jail Wednesday after a female caller reported he was armed with a knife and had been stalking her for months, according to police dispatcher audio obtained by the Post.
		Male at the location is attacking her, said he's been stalking her for months.
		A male voice in the recording can be heard saying in the audio.
		Crazy.
		The audio also indicated Moore had threatened to harm himself, kill himself, during the alleged exchange, after which he fled on foot and was arrested.
		The dispatcher said the caller reported Moore had brandished a knife before throwing down the open and running away.
		It's going to be at the Wellchurch 211 Willis Road, suicidal, driving a black Chevy Tahoe blacked out.
		The call came from Shiver's Ann Arbor address, according to public records, though it was not immediately clear if she was the victim.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		So, so what is this like, what is what is what crazy, crazy he held a knife to his own throat, I heard that's that's crazy $30 million career just down there on the tube over what, like lust, yeah, yeah, there's a story's oldest thing.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		That sure is that's a takedown thing for sure.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So, this story is blowing up to the point where I, even someone who knows nothing about college football, it's on my radar and I'm seeing people talking about it.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Betting sites are getting in on this.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they are getting in on it.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I'm sure they are.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
		I think it's actually because this is a high-profile, like, drama, true crime affair.
		It's very salacious.
		And I'm totally at a loss for anything about college football or whatever.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		But we need Chuck in here.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, where is he?
		Is he here?
		Is he can come and explain it to us?
		Callan's here.
		Callan can come and run over here and tell us what's going on.
		UM head football coach, Sharon Moore, has been terminated.
		Following university investigation, credible evidence was found that Coach Moore engaged in an inappropriate relationship with a staff member.
		This conduct constitutes a clear violation of university policy.
		So is that really all he's in trouble for?
		Like he got caught having an affair?
		But like, was the woman that he was having an affair with like breaking up with him?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		So that's his executive assistant.
		It's crazy to me that $30 million and you throw it away over something.
		It is kind of, like I said, it is a tale as old as time that men in positions of power, they just have a hard time saying no to things like this.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like when Tiger Woods kept getting in trouble for banging all those women.
		And then South Park made that episode where they were like, what is causing this?
		Wealthy, successful men to want to have sex with so many different women.
		Yeah.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Shocker.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Shocker.
		I can't quite figure it out.
		So apparently, let's see.
		What is this?
		Dispatch audio, local reports suggest police were called after concerns about his behavior.
		He threatened to kill himself.
		But I don't understand why.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Why did he threaten to kill himself?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I'd like to know what's timeline.
		I'd like to get a timeline of this.
		Is this already after he lost his contract?
		He feels like he's got nothing left to lose.
		I'm sure he's got some money in the bank anyways, but he did 30 million.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like a $30 million contract.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		How many years was that for?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's crazy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		People get paid too much for this stuff.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, he was, so he was cheating on his, he was having affairs, an affair.
		So he was cheating on his existing girlfriend and the whole like he had a mental breakdown and was gonna be like he had a wife and kids.
		Oh, well, there you go.
		Even worse.
		So, yeah, he had a mental breakdown.
		He's like, I'll kill myself because he's crazy.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Man.
		Well, you know, I'm kind of, it's kind of messed up, but maybe this will be a distraction for the people.
		I was saying for a while.
		I said this recently.
		When I was younger, all anybody cared about was sports.
		And I was kind of pissed because all this big political stuff was happening.
		And I thought, why can't people just care about the important things that are going on?
		Why don't they care?
		Now I understand.
		Now I'm begging these people involved in politics to just go away and shut up because they have no idea what they're talking about.
		So it's, you know, how do we bring back sports?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I mean, sports are still very, very popular, despite what people say there's a reason.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Hobby horsing?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		There's a reason.
		Yeah.
		You and I are the only ones who have probably seen those videos.
		If you're on here, guys, go look for the hobby horse.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What hobby horsing is?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Libby?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Isn't that where you pretend to be riding a horse, but you just have a stick with a fake horse at it?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Just a broomstick.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Do you know that they also do like hobby dog now?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Yes, yes, yes, with a leash.
		This has like got a shape at the end.
		And they pause.
		They like walk the dog and then they pause and they pretend to pet it.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		We stopped throwing kids in lockers, and ever since then, it's been downhill.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Oh, competitive children.
unidentified		It's a competitive sport.
unidentified		Oh, God.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		Hobby horse riding.
		You know, we've shown some video over the past couple of years.
		This is growing in popularity.
unidentified		Just this past June, Finland hosted its annual Hobby Horse Championships.
unidentified		Two years ago.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I want to put these people in trouble.
unidentified		It's the stupidest rider.
unidentified		They're crying.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my goodness.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		Micah Zandstra, who also just organized.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Bring the meteor.
unidentified		You know my favorite thing, though, is the hobby horse president.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They go like this.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		They go like this.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm not kidding.
unidentified		This is so hard.
		I started in this.
		You know, I saw somebody at another horse event.
		Did they name it?
		Hobby Horse.
		And I've always loved horses and I've ridden real horses, but I've never been able to have a horse of my own.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		That's what it is.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		It's wealth inequality.
unidentified		So I saw somebody with a hobby horse and I asked them where they got it.
		They said that they made it.
		And that's kind of how I started.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		The New England Patriots are 11 and 2.
unidentified		I'm just kind of bright in the parks.
unidentified		I live in a condo, so it's kind of hard to ride in the condo.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		So I will take my.
		This is really awesome.
		You have to have really high steps.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I want to see more videos of it.
unidentified		I want to see more hobby horses.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		I feel like you're punishing me tonight.
		Hey, I looked up a little more story on your coach here.
		Oh, yeah.
		You wanted to know how that went?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I want to watch hobby horsing.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		No.
		The scandal began to spiral out of control.
		Look at this guy.
unidentified		Go on.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		He doesn't want to.
		He was told to distance himself from her because there was an investigation because she got a raise from $45,000 to $90,000 without a change in job title.
		He gave her a raise.
		So there was an investigation.
		They said, distance yourself.
		And then he fired her.
		So she got mad and she went down and she told them we've been having an affair and all the things.
		And that's when it was.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		How can you get a $30 million contract and not see that coming when things go wrong?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Is it just ego?
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		Of course it is.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think these people should be arrested.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		The hobby horse people?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think we need to invade Germany.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		The parents should be arrested.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I think this is as good a reason as any to invade Germany, frankly.
unidentified		Look at this.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my gosh.
		Tell me we're not doing that in the United States.
		Oh, yeah.
		Oh, yeah, no, This is Germany.
		That's a Deutschland or something up there.
		I saw it.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my goodness.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And you notice.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		That lady was like 50.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You notice.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		What the hell?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's almost all women.
		And people are trying to convince me that we, well, no, it's not.
		I said almost all women.
		I'm well aware of this young girl.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		And they just have this stick between their legs.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		It looks ridiculous.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		You know that kids are going to be a little bit more like a message.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it looks sexual is what it looks like.
unidentified		It looks no these little toys, a little weird.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		These, okay, you know, here's the pitch: if you hobby horse, you can't vote.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Okay, that's fine.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		They're all allowed.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		We're okay with that.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I think we're allowed to do that.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		I think we might be able to take a vote here, and it might be you now.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There was a viral video of this woman, and she's like panting and on the ground, hyperventilating, and she's drenched in sweat.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And she was like, to everybody who says hobby horse, it isn't a real sport.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Those are just made to make you angry.
		Like, I see those sometimes.
		It's like, I get off X because it pisses me off.
		And then I go on Instagram and that's there.
		And I'm just like, everything's out to get me, bro.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Did we show this to Hotep?
unidentified		Maybe.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Like, like ages ago?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, no, he was here recently.
unidentified		Oh, maybe.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And I could have sworn he was like, nah, that ain't real.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		It's real.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And he's like, y'all troll.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		See, but this is one of those things where, despite what Phil said earlier, they're going to look and be like, white people.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Yeah.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		They're going to say that.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		But I mean, look, I can deal with that a whole lot more than like white men are evil.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		You know, if you want to be like white people, that's fine.
		Fine.
		Because most likely only white people are going to come up with these kind of beats.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yo, check this out.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Well, no, one day they're going to be talking about equity and hobby horsing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Meet the LeBron James of hobby horses.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
unidentified		You get the song.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Huge copyright.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Oh my gosh.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Oh, this is so sad.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		What?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't understand what they're like impressed by.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		You know what they're saying, right?
		They're like, people run track.
		What's the difference?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What are they impressed by?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		She was pulling the stick up.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		So it's formed?
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		I can't.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I really like what I'm doing.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I got a little knob on the end.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I'm done.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		I can't watch it anymore.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		I will look this way.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Sort of like it's a man.
unidentified		It's really.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		It's a shame, really.
unidentified		Dress.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, these are good jumps.
		I'm impressed.
		That's a big jump.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		Is that what they're getting scored?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, that's like four feet or something.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		How do they score it?
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		What are they scored on?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		IQ.
		And it starts at this feet.
		So after you do the jump, you got to figure out which block goes in which shaped hole.
		And then they assess your score.
		The assumption is all of them are developmentally disabled.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		You think they fall sometimes and break the horse?
unidentified		That's why the stick isn't like a full-on, you know, like there's probably like, I swear there's probably a chat being like, oh, hobby horse, stop making fun of me.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		That's because you're not allowed to not like anything now.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		You know, it'd be really funny to make fun of it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We like lose 3,000 paying members and they were like, we're all hobby horsers and whatever.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And you're diminishing us.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I think this is honestly like the precursor to furries.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I was going to, no, I was going to say, I was like, on the road to furries, this is a better alternative.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		At least they're getting some physical activity.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think this is the internet.
		So what I think happens is if you go back far enough in time, people are buying kids these things and the five-year-old pretends like he's on a horse and then they forget about it.
		Some of these kids really loved running around and pretending like they're riding a horse.
		However, as you get older, no one's really walking around with these things.
		Nobody's meeting up for it.
		It's not socially acceptable.
		It falls away.
		Then the internet comes.
		Someone creates a forum talking about how they love hobby horses.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		And then you feel like you're part of it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Then people start to trickle into this community and it allows them to coalesce.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What would normally be cast into the shadows is now out in the open for all to see.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		See, I want to find like the Republican who gets shunned by this community because it's all leftists.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Like there's got to be at least one, right?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		There might be.
		I remember when I was in third grade and I didn't have any friends and Mindy and Sarah used to play horses and they would like put their hands on the on the ground and then stand on their legs so that their legs were like straight and they would run around pretending to be horses and they were like, do you want to play horses with us?
		And I was like, okay.
		And I didn't have any friends, right?
		And so I played horses with them one day and I was like, it's better not having friends.
		I'm never doing that again.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So Callan said that ESPN, one of their top people, is claiming it's racism or something.
		And this story about Sharon Moore, OnlyFans model claims ex-Michigan football coach Sharon Moore slid into her DMs as it's revealed he attended a Diddy party.
		Now I'm kind of understanding why this story is a lot bigger.
		See, I don't pay attention to college sports or anything like that.
		I might, you know, regular football, I passively will hear about and be like, oh, okay, you know, maybe if it's like something local and then the Super Bowl is always fun.
		But Diddy party, I recognize and OnlyFans and white supremacy and all those things.
		So now I can see this is sort of hitting all the marks in the culture war.
		And now I'm, oh, okay, all right, I get it.
		Basically, it's a, it's a choose your own adventure of how to be offended.
unidentified		Yeah.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I feel like this is one of those stories, unfortunately.
		It's going to disappear.
		It doesn't feel like it's all that big to me.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's actually, I think, one of the biggest stories on the news.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Stuff like this coming, they go.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Like, I feel like this is.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		This story had big traffic for everybody today.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I mean, the reason I brought it up is because I'm just like, I don't understand.
		Like, the story is massive.
		It was big.
		I'm not a sports guy, and it was big enough to have people asking me about it.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I thought that was going to be what was true with the gambling, like the athletes getting caught gambling.
		Do you think that would be?
		Because I feel like that has bigger implications for the country.
		Like, if you want to talk about the idea of elections, we need to know that elections are fair.
		Well, if you want to talk about all of the people who are into politics who, you know, they've sublimated their team sport mentality that came from watching athletics.
		If you can't even believe that the sports you're watching aren't being rigged in some way, then that has massive implications for you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let me pull up this story and tell you about fake news.
		Let me explain to y'all fake news.
		This is Fox News.
		Trump says he will think about eliminating tax on gambling winnings.
		Fake news, right?
		Here's the fake news.
		I say it again.
		A bunch of news outlets are reporting that Donald Trump wants to eliminate taxes on gambling winnings, that he's thinking about it.
		What actually happened?
		A random reporter asked him and he was like, I don't know.
		No one's talked about it.
		We'll see, I guess.
		And then they reported Trump is going to think about eliminating tax on gambling wins.
		What he said was, we got no tax on tips, got no tax on overtime.
		Maybe there'll be no tax on gambling.
		But they asked him.
		He didn't come to them and said, you know what I'm thinking about?
		Eliminate the tax on gambling winnings.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		This is part of that whole thing where journalists, instead of trying to report news, are always trying to make news.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And they did.
		And now everyone's going, oh, oh, he's going to lose.
		You know, I doubt he will.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I liked the thing better when he said eliminate income tax.
unidentified		Yeah.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I was like, yeah, I am super into that one.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		That would be awesome.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Look at this.
		This is really funny.
		When asked on Air Force One, if he potentially nicks the tax on gambling, he said, we have no tax on tips.
		We have no tax on Social Security.
		We've got no tax on overtime.
		No tax on gambling winnings.
		I don't know.
		I'm going to have to think about that.
		And now they're all reporting that he's thinking about it.
		It's just, this is how fake news operates.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		Clickbait.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		It's a good headline.
unidentified		It'd be nice.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I forgot about it.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		All that really matters is why.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Is Trump Gamble?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		He gambles?
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		Because it makes him look bad.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I bet he puts money on golf now and then, you know.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I think so.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Why not?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Like when he's playing?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, 50.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		All he bets on himself.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Why not?
		And as he does, he gives him a stern look.
		And then he just wins every time.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		He remembers on himself.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Remember when he posted how he got a hole in one?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like in his first term?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Just like completely irrelevant to anything.
		He was like, I just want to let everybody know I'm the president.
		I got a hole in one.
		And it's like, okay.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		That's a pretty baller.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Of course it is.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I actually, I got to say, I know it's goofy, but I like seeing the president out there golf.
		And, you know, I appreciate that he takes the exercise time and that he's passionate about something, that he's got this as a hobby.
		I think it's good.
		I think it's kind of cool.
		I think it's cool that his granddaughter is like awesome at golf, Kai Trump.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I always win Top Golf.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I love Top Golf.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I always win.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I think they just sold it.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Strategy.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Roy owned it, and I think they sold it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Here's the secret.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Probably private equity.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to teach you guys how to win at Top Golf every time.
		So here's what happens.
		Every time we go, everybody always gets the ball and they whack it as hard as they can and it flies off in the distance and just lands in a random spot and they get no points.
		They get like 2,000 points.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		You got to aim for the thingies.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, if you're good enough, you know what I do?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I aim for the one right in front.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		That little red one?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The little red one because I can't hit, I can't swing a club for the life of me.
		And I get it in every time.
		And you don't get that many points, but you're okay.
		And with people aiming far down, they keep missing.
		But here's the trick.
		On the second round, the bonuses appear exactly where your shots were going.
		And then you get like 40,000 points for every red because you're bouncing in the purples bonuses.
		So I end up with like 200K points, and everyone else has got like 120.
		And that's the secret.
		Now y'all can win at Top Golf.
unidentified		Awesome.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then you can post on Truth about how good a golf you are.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I've gotten stronger over the past year because I started lifting weights like a year ago.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		And so now I can hit the yellows.
unidentified		Oh, the yellow one.
unidentified		Yeah.
chris garten ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I feel so good about myself, so I'm not going to let you make that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Top golf is pretty awesome, though.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		I like top golf.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I think it's really fun.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You get French fries.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		They bring you a little snack.
unidentified		Yeah.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Little snacks.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Chili.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		They have these little donut holes and they bring you like this weird syringe with chocolate in it and you like squirt them into the donut holes.
		It's weird.
		Like you could just give me donut holes with chocolate inside, but no, you're making me do this thing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You can put on top.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		It's weird.
		Is that really?
		I thought you could like chocolate intake.
unidentified		Right.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Because when you make cupcakes and you make like cupcakes with cream inside, you have to like jam it in there and squirt the filling on the inside the cupcakes before you frost.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't get it.
		I don't, I never, I don't, I don't why you like a cream-filled cupcake?
		Just put it on top of it.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		You like hostess?
		You don't like hostess?
		What's the matter with you?
		You're an American?
		Come on.
		Tasty cake does the same thing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's all nasty.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		They got the little stuff inside.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Doesn't all that stuff have RFK is giving you a side eye right now.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Whatever.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Doesn't all that stuff have propylene glycol in it?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I don't eat it.
		I just make cupcakes at home.
		And that's how I know you have to squirt the cream on the inside.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm not a big cake fan.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I like cake.
		Yeah.
		I like cake.
unidentified		I like cookies.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I like all the things.
unidentified		Pie.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What's up?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I like all the things.
unidentified		I like pieces.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Pie is great too.
		I mean, what?
		We have to only like one kind of dessert.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Like, wait a minute.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Why are we choosing?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		What's going on?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Have it all.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't want to eat cake.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm not interested.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Just pie.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, just pie.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		It's just spongy weirdness.
		Pie has like fruit.
		It's goodness.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		The only time cake is.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		It's nuts on it.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		It's good.
		Crusty flake.
		Like, you've got all these different textures.
		Pie's good.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then you.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		It's great.
		I make this great strawberry cake with strawberry buttercream.
		It's forking delicious.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Our female viewership is skyrocketing right now.
unidentified		Really?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's like the numbers.
		I'm kidding.
		Numbers are just going up.
		They're like, tell me more about the pastries you are baking.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		I will.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I'm happy to.
		When I was pregnant, I decided I wanted to be one of those moms that bakes, you know?
		And so I learned how to bake.
		And now I make a real nice cake.
		I make a whole bunch of good stuff.
		I can make one of each thing.
		I can't make two different kinds of cakes.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I can make one kind of cake.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		My wife loves to bake.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		More than she knows.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Have you ever made a cronut?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		No, I can't do that.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		This whole last couple of months.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I've always wanted to eat one, but I'm like.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I was saying to my wife, I was like, I want to lose some weight.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		And she's like, I baked these brownies.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		That's a good way.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		And I'm like, you're sabotaging me, bro.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I just bought.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Do you call your wife bro?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Sometimes.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		Sometimes.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I just bought cocoa yesterday at the grocery store so I could make brownies because my kid likes brownies and I don't like to buy the box, you know?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		So brownies are great.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		Box brownies are those.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		The box brownies are coming.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		I've cooked them doing the Christmas cookies on Saturday.
		Oh, it's dozens and dozens and dozens all day long.
		It's great.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Sugar cookies with like icing on them.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		No, I actually don't make any sugar cookies.
		I make anise cookies.
		That's the Italian tradition.
		Oh, they're so good.
		And Italian dry-color cookies, the flag cookies with the three colors, the chocolate cookies.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Actually, my goal in life is I'm doing all of this because I do intend to run for office at some point.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And when I become president, is that news?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Are we breaking news?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes, yes, yes.
		So, so at some point, I will use all power I've acquired to run for office.
		And once president, I will usurp constitutional authority.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I like that you're just running for president.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You're just well, of course, because first I have to be president, then I can usurp all constitutional authority and make myself Supreme Chancellor so that I can make Anise, fennel, cilantro, airway, all of my favorites.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Burn it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Burn it.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		All my favorites.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Burn it all.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Terrible.
unidentified		That's right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Libby's going to lead the army.
		Yes.
		She's going to be wearing like.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to get everyone to sign up for the draft based on that.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		Is there anyone with me that loves those things?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I don't like it.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Cilantro is terrible.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Possession.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		Just me.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Possession of cilantro is a capital offense.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I agree.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Capital offense.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		I guess I'm silent.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I don't even like searching seizure laws.
		Don't even apply if they have even a whiff of it.
		They're like open the trunk.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They open it and there's like a bunch of pot.
		And I'm like, nah, that's fine.
		You're free to go.
		And then one guy's eating a taco.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Got him.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The dogs just jump on him.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I was driving through Southern California last week and we were driving and it was dark and just reeked of weed.
		And then when we saw it in daylight the next day, it was like, because I was, this is going to sound like I'm bragging.
		So I'm just going to go for it.
		I was with Pete Hegset, Motor Cape, shutting down the 405 and going to check out Autonomous Weapons Factories and the Reagan Library, the Reagan National Defense Forum.
		And it was kind of cool.
		But anyway, then in daylight, it was.
		It was just fields of weed.
		It was like more weed than you could conceive of at once.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Oh, California.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		It was so California.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, I'm going to send when I'm Chancellor, there's going to be dudes in suits with flamethrowers, and they're going to walk through those fields with the flamethrowers off until they get to the cilantro and then just torch the cilantro.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Then you're going to create a black market for cilantro that's going to just.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		Then if you're going to ban Anise, I can't vote for you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Anise.
		No, you don't get to vote.
		I'm going to be Supreme Chancellor, right?
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		I've said president first, and then you are going to have power.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The first thing I'm going to do is I'm going to talk about how great cilantro is, and I'm going to be like, I will be the president.
		And then as soon as people vote for me, I'm going to be like, ha ha, no, take the mask off.
		And then I'm going to ban.
		Oh, Anise is out.
		Have you ever had a Rocky?
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		No, what is that?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Rocky?
		You mean like the Cretan, like Cretan from Crete?
		There's this like Crete moonshine called Rocky.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's a, it's a, it's a, I think it's Turkish.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Whatever it is, it's nasty.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		It's a drink.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		It sort of tastes like black licorice.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Also, it burns.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
		Yum.
		I can't believe you don't know about it because you'll definitely want one.
		And I was in Turkey.
		So a Rocky is an alcoholic beverage made from twice distilled grape pumice and flavored with aniseed.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		I don't drink.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		I'll never get it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You'll never have a Rocky.
		And so I was in Turkey and I was with the guys from Vice and they were like, you got to have a Rocky Tim while you're in Turkey.
		And I was like, what is it?
		And they're like, it's like licorice.
		And I said, that's disgusting.
		It's anise and I will destroy it.
		And they're like, no, you have to drink it.
		And it's very much like when the guys who own the company are saying, drink it.
		You're like, all right, I'll drink it.
		It is disgusting.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		They made me drink it too.
		My uncle and my aunt, they were like, you have to have this in Crete.
		And I'm like, I did not like it.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		I bet it's delicious.
unidentified		All right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right.
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		And now let's get back to your rumble rants and super chats as my voice just naturally squeaks a little bit higher.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		We should pitch shift your voice and just put it back to normal when you were doing that promo.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't talk live there.
		You need to be a man.
		All right.
		Shane H Wilder says, Hey, Tim, is the new Christmas song also going to be on Spotify or direct MP3/slash flak download for those of us who don't use Apple Music?
		I'm going to go ahead and assume the answer is yes.
		Carter is, he would know better than I, but it should be on every platform.
		And this is Silent Knight, new song, Trash House Records.
		And did he put it up yet?
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Trash House Christmas.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's what?
unidentified		Trash House Christmas.com.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Trash HouseChristmas.com.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's see if we pull that up.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I think I saw it on Instagram.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Nope.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Did I spell it wrong?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Carter mentioned it earlier on.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Maybe it's.
		Wait.
		Oh, there we go.
		We got it.
		Alex Bianca Silent Knight single is available.
		If you go to the website, it's on Apple Music.
		I think you can just go to any platform and probably find this and check it out.
		We're working with new artists with Trash House Records, our record label.
		Very excited.
		But let's grab your rants and chats.
		We'll continue.
		James Smith Politics says Erica and TPSA should file a defamation lawsuit against Candace Owens.
		I'm willing to bet that will happen.
		I think it will happen.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Black Hills Ranch says, I'm not mad at Tim.
		I'm a supporter, just a simple rancher.
		Isaiah 118, come now.
		Let us reason together, says the Lord.
		With that, I accept your debate challenge.
		How would you like to proceed?
		Are you saying my debate about the limits of God?
		I don't know how I would ever have that debate.
		We did a debate on this a couple times already.
		And the issue is it's literally just what do you believe?
		And so if you believe that God is the logos, I'm not telling you you're wrong.
		I'm saying, I don't believe it.
		The question is, it's not so much a debate, but you trying to convince me that I am wrong.
		But I don't think you can.
		I don't think I can convince you you are wrong either because we both just simply believe different things about God.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		But usually in those debates, it's not about convincing you, right?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		It's about convincing somebody who might be watching, perhaps.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Indeed.
		You ever see that movie?
		It's Thank You for Smoking.
		That really great scene where it's his face.
		Who's the actor?
		Aaron Eckhart.
		And he's with his son, and he's like, because he's a smoking PR guy or whatever.
		And then he's teaching his kid how to win a debate.
		And he says, let's say we're debating ice cream and you love chocolate and I love vanilla.
		So if someone asks you, you like chocolate, what do you say?
		And he says, chocolate is the best.
		And then he responds with, oh, so you think chocolate is the end-all be-all?
		Chocolate's the best?
		And he goes, yes, I do.
		And he says, then he goes, well, I believe in freedom, in liberty.
		And I think we should have choices.
		And I think if people want vanilla or chocolate, and then the kid goes, but that's not we're talking about.
		And he goes, no, it's what I'm talking about.
		And then the kid's like, but you didn't argue that vanilla was better.
		And he's like, I don't have to.
		All I have to do is argue that you are wrong.
		And then the kid says, but that's not convincing me.
		And he goes, I'm not trying to convince you.
		I'm trying to convince them.
		Yeah, that's how you thank you.
		And then the next scene is they're both eating vanilla ice cream.
		That's a great movie.
unidentified		All right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's see.
		Brett Zeppelin says, Brett Dasific is way sexier than Brett Cooper.
		I'm a chick.
		It's okay, Brett.
		Actually, I think I can pull this up.
		It's really funny.
		I was just, I was losing it this morning because of how funny it was.
		Let me see if, yeah, here we go.
		I think I can get it.
		Let's see.
		I was actually, I was actually thinking about doing a video for my at Tim Pool channel, but I was just, didn't have time.
		I wrote, list the staff of Tim Cast.
		It says, Tim Cast found and operated by Tim Pools.
		It's a company folks on podcasts like Timcast IRL, the coach World Podcast, based on available sources.
		The course staff includes hosts, producers, and key operational roles.
		Note that Tim Cast is small and independent operation.
		So the team is not exhaustive and may evolve.
		Here's a compiled list of confirmed staff members.
		Tim Poole, founder, CEO, and host.
unidentified		Phil McGraw, host, co-host, regular.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Ian Crossland, Brett Cooper, Pop Culture Crisis.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I'll take it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Raymond G. Stanley Jr., a lot of Eliyahu, Serge Dupria, surge.com.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Cassandra Fairbanks, Charles, last name not specified.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		See, but that's real power.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		If they don't know your last name, they can't get to you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
		And then I said, wow, Dr. Phil is on Timcast.
		No, the famous Dr. Phil McGraw isn't a regular on Timcast, though he's been referenced in episodes, like when Tim Poole's team discussed Dr. Phil calling out child trafficking issues to border policy.
		That's a he does have a co-host named Phil, who has appeared frequently on Timcast IRL, along with Tim Poole, Ian Crossland, and others.
		He's been in episodes, blah, blah, blah.
		I said, Dr. Phil is Phil McGraw.
		Yes, that's correct.
		Dr. Phil is indeed Philip Calvin McGraw.
		Blah, And I said, and Phil McGraw is on Timcast.
		No, Phil McGraw is not a host, co-host.
		And then I said, Brett Cooper is on Timcast.
		It's amazing.
		Yes, Brett Cooper is indeed a regular co-host on Timcast IRL.
		And it's been an awesome addition to the lineup.
		She's popped up on episodes throughout 2025, bringing her sharp takes on pop culture, Gen Z trends, and conservative commentary to the mix alongside Tim Poole, Phil, and others like Raymond or Ian.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		It's the pop conversation.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Listen to this.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Listen to this.
		For instance, in a recent December 2025 episode, Tim, Phil, Brett, and Raymond teamed up with guest Naomi Seit to break down the JSIC pipe bomber arrest, why young folks are ditching America for socialism vibes, and even the wild story of people trolling Tim Wallace's house.
		Another one from late 2025 had her joining Tim, Phil, and Tate with the Raw Egg Nationalist at Baby Gravy 9 to host viral drunk raccoon memes, TPOSA drama with Candace Owens, and some hilarious unhinged WNBA betting scandals.
		She's not full-time staff.
		And I said, so cool she can be in West Virginia every night while living in Nashville.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I don't know what's better.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Does that mean that I'm a handsome woman or that I look young for my age?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I said, she must have a private jet for that.
		Pop culture crisis also filmed in West Virginia.
		Hot, no private jet needed.
		And then it said, Teleport.
		For her Timcast IRL spots, it's 100% remote.
		It said, these days, the Brett Cooper show launched independently after leaving the Daily Wire's comment section.
		It said that she was on the show.
		Her old gig from 21 to 24, co-hosted with Mary Morgan under Timcast Media, was actually filmed in Frederick, Maryland, specifically The Castle.
		This is crazy.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		History is cooked, man.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		People are going to read this stuff and think all of it's true.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I wrote this.
		Oh, yeah, I remember that.
		It was after she and Mary got into that fight over who got to feed the chickens in Chicken City.
		Ha ha, okay, see what you're doing here.
		Blah, blah, blah.
		You get the point.
		Dude, Grok would not let it go.
		The whole way, it's just saying, yes, Brett Cooper is on Timcast IRL.
		And then, even when I said we don't, it's like, how does she get here?
		It's like she does remote.
		I said, Tim Kez had never had remote guests.
		And it's like, you're right.
		Then how did she get here?
		And it's like, it's easy because it's only twice a week.
unidentified		Like, it's just making things up.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Always accurate.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		It's about how AI is being introduced into Edges' public education system at a dramatic pace.
		And this, I mean, look at this.
		You're an adult.
		You're trying to fight with it.
		You're not getting accurate information.
		Imagine this being introduced to children.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It is.
		And teachers are creating assignments with ChatGPT.
		And then the students are doing the assignment with ChatGPT.
		And then the teachers are grading the assignment with ChatGPT.
		So basically, both are just sitting there staring at the wall, drooling like zombies.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		My son's English teacher recently had them do an essay and he required that it be turned in, written on paper.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		Thank you, teacher.
		I have a solution for that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So how does your son?
		Okay, I don't know if you want to say I was going to, but okay.
		So if you're listening, make the, write the report through ChatGPT and then go to Home Depot and go, trabaho, traba ho, and then hold it up.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		No, no.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		He wrote it out and he did a good job.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I can't write.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, his was hard to read.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		We had to work through it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Way this really funny thing happened at Skate Night.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Because they stopped teaching kids how to write also, like by hand.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So I don't ever write anything because I'm on a computer the whole time, all the time.
		And this funny thing happened at our skate night contest last time where my wife is like, can you handle the checks?
		And I was like, yeah, it's fine.
		I'll like, you know, I'll get Cody to do it.
		Because my handwriting is miserable.
		I've just, there's a, I have a brain thing where when I write, I mix between uppercase and lowercase like SpongeBob, like a SpongeBob meme.
		And even.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I thought it was just that men did that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Maybe.
		Okay.
		And so the funny thing is, so what ends up happening is we do the event and then we got to pay out for the prize and stuff.
		And I'm like, hey, Cody, all right, I'll tell you what to write because you got better handwriting than he's like, okay.
		And then neither of us actually knew how to properly write the check.
		So we did them wrong.
		And then when my wife showed up, she was like, what are you doing?
		And I was like, what do you mean?
		I was like, we're writing checks.
		She went, oh my God.
		And she grabbed him and she wrote void and then ripped them.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		Are you a product of the public school system?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No.
unidentified		Who didn't teach you to write a check?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's because I haven't written a, I've never written a business check.
		And so there's slight things you have to do on it.
		The way you write it out so they can't be manipulated after the fact.
		And then the receipt stuff you have to write.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So we didn't, neither of us knew how to do that.
		More importantly, I can't write.
		You know what I mean?
		But don't worry.
		I did go to public school for a few years and then I dropped out of high school when I was 14.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		Really?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		You don't have a high school diploma?
unidentified		No.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, intentionally.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		Amazing.
		No GED, no interest in.
		Amazing.
		Did you know this?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I did know this.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It is a waste of time.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But, you know, the thing is.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I wasted so much time in education, apparently.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		I got my high school diploma only because I was the first in my family.
		No one else had.
		And so they were like, you were going to be the first.
		You were going to get a student.
		What do you need it for?
		What did I need it for?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What did anyone need it for?
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		I only needed it so then I could apply to college.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's not true.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		Really?
		You didn't need to have a high school diploma?
		I mean, they asked for your transcripts and you have to have taken the classes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Community colleges only require you to be 18 years old.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So what I did was I, so when, so I was homeschooled before starting grade school.
		So I, you know, my brother, my sister, and I were actually fairly ahead of the rest of the kids.
		School largely turned out to be a waste of time because it punishes you if you are, if you have good reading comprehension.
		So I was in, you know, eighth grade already understanding negatives, multiplying, dividing.
		In kindergarten, I understood division and multiplication.
		And, you know, the other kids weren't learning that until like a year or two later.
		So I was constantly punished for just always being ahead and being able to do math in my head.
		So it very much was a very, it was a very negative experience.
		I absolutely hated it.
		And so my family said that computers and the internet since I was a little kid.
		I was always reading the news.
		So I'm reading tons of things online, reading encyclopedia entries, and eventually like Wikipedia stuff.
		So what I did was when I turned 18, I went and applied to College of DuPage and I took a few classes for one quarter.
		It was theater acting, which sucked, criminal justice, and yoga.
		The yoga class was literally just doing yoga and you pay them to do it.
		And I think I went to that one time and then I was like, this is dumb.
		Actually, I wanted to do kickboxing and then I found out that it was just women punching the air and I was like, that's not what I wanted to take.
		So I left.
		And then after one quarter, and I think it cost $550, I now had some college on my resume.
		So when I applied at jobs that required a high school diploma, I just said my highest level of education is some college and you're good to go.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		I like that outsmarting the system as a whole.
		I do not disagree.
		My son is 17.
		He's a senior and he is, he's miserable.
		Like he, he has to only be there two hours a day.
		He's taking a couple of community college classes, dual enrolling, and even those, no challenging, not challenging to him at all.
		He's got a he's bored out of his mind.
		Yeah.
		And it's, it's very unfortunate.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Indeed.
		All right, let's grab a few, some more.
		We've got, let's see, Joshua French says, as a citizen of Utah County, I hope I am on the jury.
		That will disqualify you on the spot.
unidentified		Yeah.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They're going to ask you if you've watched media about it, if you've made comments about it, and you're going to say yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then they're going to say, you may leave.
unidentified		Sorry.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		All right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's see.
		Concrete Hades says, Tim, please, for the love of God, stop giving Candace all this free press.
		You're only increasing her influences and spreading her message.
		Address the idiocy without naming her or giving her airtime.
		Incorrect.
		There's a mistake people make because they watched a movie sometime.
		Have you ever heard the phrase, Tina or Libby?
		There's no such thing as bad press?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
		I have a degree in communication.
		Indeed.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And do you think it's true?
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		It's, oh, it's absolutely true.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Then why don't you advise a client to go fuck a pig in the middle of Times Square and tell me if the press is good for him or not?
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		Well, you're not, you don't want to, you want to do stupid things to create bad press.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		But as someone who runs an organization that has had majority bad press, but it's skyrocketed us on the national scene, like we always use it for our benefit.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But the point is when they say there's no such thing as bad press, there absolutely is.
		And so right now, for the longest time, everybody knew what Candace was saying and nobody was speaking out against her.
		Slowly, as she increased her level of unhingety, I increased the level of critique until finally she said she called Turning Point a godforsaken organization that betrayed Charlie Kirk and to pull your donations from it.
		As well as the lie about taking off, you know, oh, they're coming to kill me and that's why I'm leaving.
		And it's just, she crossed that line.
		She went too far.
		And now people are finally starting to come out en masse and call her out.
		The idea that you ignore someone who's getting 100 plus thousand concurrent viewers and it goes away is the stupidest thing ever.
		She is fundamentally wokeifying people.
		I don't want to say the right because I don't want to play that stupid woke right game.
		It's not the right.
		The young Turks are watching her content.
		Anna Kasparian's talking about how she likes Candace Owens.
		It is this weird, largely female cohort that is becoming increasingly insane.
		So yes, people need to call her out and ridicule her for being insane, explain why she's lying.
		So that way, when I talk to people who are like, well, I don't actually watch her content, they're going to be hearing more and more and more of Candace is nuts and she's lying and less of, I don't want to speak anything bad about Candace.
		So you've got to call her out.
		There is a such thing as bad press, and she's certainly getting it right now.
		The reason why she came out and said, Erica said she wants me to stop lying, which I will honor if she explains how I've lied, she has to do that because she knows if she actually comes out and says, No, Erica, I will not stop, it'll be very, very bad for her and her audience will turn on her.
		So she's got to keep incrementalizing and be very careful.
		That's why she said before only her husband and Erica Kirk could make her stop because she knew no one would tolerate her harassing a grieving widow.
		She's got to increment her way into that.
		People need to call her out.
unidentified		All right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Them says, Candace may be acting out the following black mirror, bet noir, girl interrupted, hand that rocks the cradle, and a whole lot of single white female and the invisible guest, obsessive females.
		Indeed.
		Indeed.
unidentified		All right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's grab some of these YouTube chips.
		David Bricken says, In the words of Assassin's Creed, nothing is true.
		Everything is permitted.
		What does that mean?
unidentified		Not true.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		What does that mean?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I've heard that said in Assassin's Creed, and it sounds like something someone wrote thinking it sounded profound, but they don't actually understand what it means.
		It is a non-sequitur.
		Nothing is true.
		Everything is permitted.
		I get it.
		People are always lying and you can just do things.
		That's one way to put it.
		But I feel like in the context of Assassin's Creed, it literally just didn't mean anything.
		I suppose they can just say, you can just do things.
		It always amazed me that there are people who don't realize that you can just do things.
		Like the high school diploma thing is a really great example.
		Everybody was like, when I'm growing up, but you have to get at least a GED, right?
		How are you going to get a job?
		And I was like, lie.
		And you'd lie.
		I'm like, do you think that McDonald's actually wants to see my diploma?
		Holy crap, dude.
		Or, or how about you apply for a job and you show up wearing a you know like a nice button-up shirt and a tie to apply for a fast food job?
		They're not going to care if you have a high school diploma or not.
		More importantly, I worked for American Eagle Airlines, which is American Airlines Regional, and it required a high school diploma.
		I didn't have one, but I took theater acting at a community college.
		And so when I applied, they said, What's your highest level of education?
		I said, Some college, which is true.
		And they said, Okay, good enough.
		They don't need my transcripts.
		They don't need any proof.
		Some college, I get it.
		When my friend applied, they said, What's your highest level of education?
		He says, High school.
		And they say, You're going to have to bring your diploma.
		And so he had to then go home, grab his diploma, come back later for another meeting where he showed and proved that he had high school.
		Where I didn't have to do that, and I didn't.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		You didn't have to do that?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No.
		The other thing is, I once got a job as a director of a nonprofit, and I had done nonprofit fundraising.
		And so when I applied, it said college degree required.
		I don't got one of those.
		And so I listed all my accolades and I included the college.
		I just put College of DuPage, you know, criminal justice or whatever.
		And so they called me in for a meeting because they liked the accolades.
		The accolades said I was a nation's best fundraiser.
		And the director said, so I see you went to college.
		And I said, I did.
		And they said, oh, okay.
		And how was that?
		And I said, it was great.
		They said, you studied criminal justice.
		I did.
		And that was it.
		How was that?
		I was like, it's very interesting stuff.
		And they said, why not pursue a career in the justice field?
		And I was like, not really interested in pursuing that.
		And they said, how long did you go to college for?
		And I said, two months.
		And they said, okay, well, as you should be aware, the job listing said it requires a college degree for this position.
		And I said, I'm absolutely aware.
		What I'll say to you is, I am a nation's best fundraiser for Greenpeace, the PERG groups, the Human Rights Campaign, the ACLU, Children's International, Save the Children, et cetera.
		Now, if you want to hire someone with absolutely no experience because they're fresh out of college, then please do so.
		You have my blessing.
		But if you want to hire a nation's best fundraiser as a director of your nonprofit, then you can hire me.
		You let me know.
		And if it's a non-starter for you, then I appreciate your time.
		Thank you.
		And they said, okay, well, we'll give you a call.
		And then two days later, they called me and said, you're hired.
		So if the job's not for you, that's why I hate college degrees.
		Like, if you can't do the job, your degree means nothing to me.
		It's really funny stories.
		I knew somebody who was studying music business on her third year at Columbia.
		And I was like, so what, like, you know, what are you studying?
		She's like, music business.
		Like, oh, right on.
		Like, what have you, so what are you doing?
		Like, what have you done?
		And she said, what do you mean?
		And I said, like, do you manage any bands?
		Do you have like any records out?
		Like, what are you doing?
		She's like, nothing.
		I'm in college.
		And then I was like, you're 21.
		And she was like, yeah, I know, but I'm just in school.
		I haven't gotten a job yet.
		And I was like, I'm a high school dropout and I've managed like three bands and I've helped friends record music.
		And my buddy, who's 18 is managing a band that's opening for a huge European tour with 5,000 tickets sold.
		He's a high school dropout.
		What are you in college for?
		It's just so insane how people just don't understand.
		You can just do things.
		All right, let's grab this bad boy right here.
		What do we got?
		Based African says, missed my chance to super chat this in the earlier episode, but Tim should review Bill Burr's explanation of how women argue.
		You're winning the argument against Candace.
		Just keep cool and don't call her a cunt.
		It was a very appropriate situation.
		I made this point earlier in the morning and I said, Cam Higby put out a post where he showed the follower and subscriber count for Candace.
	The month before Charlie died, it was the lowest she ever had.
	Zero growth and the lowest views she's ever gotten on her channel.
	Right when Charlie dies, her views and her subscribers skyrocket.
	And I pointed out that is a man's argument.
	To win an argument with a man, you say, let's review the numbers.
	Candace Owens made a tactical assessment on the metrics of her channel.
	Nah, women don't argue that way.
	That is not how you win an argument with a woman.
	You win an argument with a woman saying, I think Candace loved Charlie.
	I think she was in love with him.
	Did you see how she was texting with him, like about his clothes and stuff?
	She loved him.
	And you know what happened?
	He chose Erica.
	He wanted to be with another woman.
	Can you imagine how mad Candace must have been?
	That's how you win an argument with a woman.
	Men don't understand that women tend not to be like sterile, cold, and calculating and are more curious about the human experience and the social elements of what's going on.
	That is exactly what Candace Owens is doing on her show.
	She is not coming out and saying, Charlie's, she's not doing the thing where she's like, let's go through the 990 forms and go over how much money Charlie was spending.
	What she's doing is she's saying Charlie's friends betrayed him.
	His friends did this to him.
	And it's like, oh, oh, you know, and she has a massive female audience.
	And those are tendencies.
	Those are generalities, of course.
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	Tina, did you want to shout anything out?
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		Shout out to all of our moms across the country battling in this culture war.
		Honestly, they are putting up with a whole lot of grief, a whole lot of attacks, lawsuits up against them.
		And our 320 chapter chairs are true warriors.
		So grateful to them.
		You can join Moms for Liberty.
		You can start a chapter, join a chapter, pick up some Moms for Liberty merch all at momsforliberty.org.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right on.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I'm Libby Emmons.
		You can find me on Twitter at LibbyEmmons.
		And you can check out what we're doing at thepostmillennial.com and humanevents.com.
unidentified		Thanks.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		If you guys want to follow me, I am on Instagram and on X at Brett Dasovic on both of those platforms.
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		So if you haven't yet, go check out what we're doing over there.
		The schedule has been irregular lately as we're kind of shifting into remote episodes and stuff.
		So bear with us with all the things that are going on.
		But we're putting out content all the time.
		They just weren't live.
		But I will be live tomorrow, I believe, doing a one-hour episode and then back to a regular schedule, hopefully starting on Monday.
		So follow us over there.
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		Thanks, guys.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I am Phil that remains on Twix.
		The band is all that remains.
		You can check out all that remains on Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora, Spotify, YouTube, and Deezer.
		Don't forget the left lane is for crime.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We will see you all at rumble.com/slash Timcast IRL.
unidentified		Thanks for hanging out, man.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, man.
		What's the.
		What's the shocking news we should talk about while we're in the uncensored portion of the show?
		Hobby horsing?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I think we already talked about that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Shooting people in West Virginia?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I mean, that could possibly be a thing considering.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Who was it?
		Was it Gary who asked the other day?
		He's like, why did you move to West Virginia?
		And I said, because I can shoot people.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		In the face.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Look, man.
		You know, defending your property and defending your life are real things.
		And any state that says you can't defend yourself when you're in your home is a state that I wouldn't want to live in.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		I will live there.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		You know, I moved out of Massachusetts in 2011, and it was directly related to prohibitions on firearms and stuff.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Massachusetts.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I want to.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I want to show you this story.
		This is why I never road rage, and I always yell at people in my car if they're road raging.
		Check us out.
unidentified		With breaking news, Fox 5 News starts now.
		An 11-year-old child is dead following a road rage shooting at Henderson this morning.
		This happened on the westbound 215 near Gibson.
		Henderson Police just gave us an update on the investigation, and Fox Five Sophia Berensba joins us live near this scene with what we know so far.
sophia bruinsma ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		We're here just below the 215 where the deadly shooting took place around 7 o'clock this morning.
		The Henderson Police Department told us two parties were involved in a confrontation on the roadway after one tried to pass the other, ultimately leading to the death of an 11-year-old who was on his way to school.
		Now, this all took place after the boy's stepfather and the suspect got into a heated argument on the shoulder of 215 heading westbound.
		The 22-year-old suspect then pulled out a handgun, firing one round at the victim's car, tragically striking the 11-year-old boy in the back seat.
		The stepfather then rammed into the suspect's car, causing both of them to come to a stop in the middle of the road.
		Another heated exchange took place.
		This time, a metro police officer happened to be driving on the roadway today.
		Henderson police making an urgent call to the community.
unidentified		I would rather you be stuck in traffic and late for your destination than have to go to a funeral for a loved one or potentially spend the rest of your life in prison.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So I think I have the.
		I might have the footage of it.
		This might be the footage.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		That's horrifying.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
unidentified		There's a kid shot in the back seat.
		Chilling new videos released by Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department are giving us a closer look into last Friday's deadly road rage suiting that left an 11-year-old boy dead on her southern beltway.
		Good evening.
		Thank you for joining us on this Friday.
		I'm Dana Wagner.
		Our Georgia Costa joins us now from the lime desk with a breakdown of that footage.
		And George, this could be difficult to watch.
george acosta ▲ ● ▼		We had Dana combined these five officer body-worn camera videos, total about an hour long, showing the emotional state.
		22-year-old Tyler Matthew Johns is seen talking to the initial responding Las Vegas Metro Police officer along the 215 Beltway in Henderson near Gibson just moments after the road rage shooting.
		As Johns immediately walks to the responding officer, he places his hands behind his back, asking police to take him into custody.
		Upon further questioning, Johns says he didn't know Dominguez Chavaria was in the other vehicle prior to firing his weapon, all while Dominguez Chavari is his stepfather, Valente Ayala, is a distraught reeling from the tragedy.
		I didn't know with one metro police officer trying to console him.
unidentified		I'm so sorry.
		Do you have your guys?
		Oh my God, I'm going to go to school, I'm going to go to school!
george acosta ▲ ● ▼		Now, statements provided from one witness on scene confirming Johns' man.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		He behaved badly too.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Stepdad.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That was his stepdad?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Yes, they said.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, wow.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Step families are the worst.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It is.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		It's not good.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I grew up in Chicago, as everyone and everyone's grandmother knows.
		And I'd have people in my car sometimes, and we're driving on like 55 or whatever.
		And then someone will cut us off and they'll be in the passenger side and they'll start screaming at them.
		And I'll be like, I will kick you the fuck out of my car in two seconds.
		This is Chicago, dude.
		Some gangbanger is going to pull out a gun and unload on us for no fucking reason.
		And they're never going to go to jail for it.
		Fucking retards.
		It's not worth it.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		North Minneapolis is the same way.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Just.
		You know what I like to do when I cut people off?
		I go like this.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I go.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So then when they pass me, they're all angry.
		They just see this guy with a retarded face.
		I'm like, no, you can't do anything about it.
		You can't flick off someone who's too stupid to know you flicked them off.
		It's the most annoying thing.
		But I always tell people in Chicago, the road rage is not worth it.
		You will die.
		And now this 11-year-old kid got killed.
unidentified		So awful.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I mean, not only like everything that everyone said here is absolutely true, and I would amplify everything you said, but under no circumstances should you ever stop your car over a road rage incident.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Like, you should never stop your car.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Never, never stop your car.
		Never pull over because you have no idea what the person that is angry with you.
		You have no idea where their head's at.
		You have no idea what they're like.
		Like, just you should do everything you can.
		If someone, if you get, if you get into a road rage incident, you should do your best to either slow down or get away from them.
		Don't engage with them.
		That is a terrible idea.
		You never know what the person in the other car is going to do.
		So it's just a terrible idea.
		Never, ever, ever stop your car.
		This is not the only time that you hear a story about someone got out of their car and the other person shot them.
		Yeah, you know, like it is, it is, there is never, ever a good reason to stop your car.
		There is always a good reason to go away as fast as you can legally.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then some dumb motherfucking 22-year-old shot and killed a kid, and now his life is over.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		For what, dude?
		Because you couldn't merge properly.
		Damn.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Like, nobody merges properly.
		Everyone's a dick when they merge.
		It's the worst.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Nobody knows what right away means at all.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		No one knows what yield means either.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		They don't understand that.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, let's go to callers.
		We got Jeff Musgrave.
		What's going on, brother?
unidentified		Good.
		How are you guys doing?
		Hello.
		Okay.
		So I wanted to ask you guys, you know, with the special election that happened in Tennessee and the Miami mayor's election.
		Do you think the Republicans can actually turn this around from here before 2026?
		Ben Turns, I know it's still a ways away and people have short-term memory on things, but only 17% of people showed up for the special election voters.
		It's not very many.
		I know it was the week after a holiday weekend.
		Those things play into factors of why not many people show up.
		But is it really signs showing that the Republicans are in trouble?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Can they or will they are two different questions?
		And I'm still of the opinion that Republicans winning is largely dependent on the economy.
		Like, I don't think they can win if the economy is bad.
		If the economy is good, they can win.
		Does that mean they will win?
unidentified		No.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Will they turn it around?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Palms up, dude.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		They're very good at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yep, absolutely.
		So, but like I said, I mean, I'm going to keep hammering this home.
		The vast majority of people that get out and vote, they care about kitchen table issues.
		If they feel like their money is not going very far, if they feel like they can't afford things, then they are not going to vote for the incumbent party.
		It's just historically, that is, that is almost a guarantee.
		So if the Trump administration actually has done things that, because the argument that they make is that they've done stuff and it's going to take some time for it to manifest.
		If it manifests in 2026 and you see the economy kind of turn around and people start feeling better about how much money they're making, how far their money's going, then the Republicans can.
		Not saying they will, but they can.
		If the economy doesn't turn down or turn around, if there's a major downturn, if the current bubble in the housing market or in the stock market pops and people feel like they're broke, then there's no chance for the Republicans in the fall.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		Beyond that, there's just getting people to vote, getting them excited and energized to vote when President Trump is not on the ballot.
		And the people that are going to be energized to vote are the ones that have a common enemy of Republicans and Trump-endors candidates and all of the things that we represent and stand for.
		And they're going to have the energy.
		They're going to be unified.
		And our side is not as energized and excited.
		So it's an uphill battle.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I remember one time I was at a restaurant in Maryland.
		And there was at the front of the restaurant, they have like the place where you can put like your flyers or stuff like that.
		And there was somebody running for some either city council and they had anti-Moms for Liberty on the thing that they were handing out on the brochure.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		Here's a little anecdote for you.
		So we only endorse in school board races.
		We work on getting out the vote all the way up to the presidential race, but we only endorse and really get behind school board candidates.
		In Charleston, two years ago, Charleston, South Carolina, it's been like 100 years that they had had a Democrat in that office.
		And the gentleman running for the mayor's seat, we didn't endorse him.
		He wasn't Moms for Liberty, but that was their tactic.
		He is in Moms for Liberty candidate.
		They actually made TV commercials that he supports Moms for Liberty.
		He's the Moms for Liberty, which wasn't true.
		I mean, he was a conservative guy, but they tried to like hang Moms for Liberty around his neck.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		He won.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		It's the first time a Republican has won being the mayor of Charleston in like 100 years.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		We also saw in President Trump's speech in Pennsylvania the other night where he was talking about affordability or that was the idea.
		And then he like wove his way well off the teleprompter.
		But he said that Susie Wiles said that they needed to put him on the ballot for 2026.
		So he's working on it.
		I think we're going to see a lot more Trump on the campaign trails for some of these races.
		I think he's going to be out there a lot more.
		And I think we're going to see him really go for it because for him, it's the difference between being able to finish out his presidency and finish his agenda and not being able to do that.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Does that answer your question?
unidentified		Yeah, definitely.
		I'm from Indiana.
		So I live like 45 minutes north of Indianapolis where you guys were talking about the redistricting earlier.
		Also, yeah, that kind of shocked me to see that today.
		But the way they voted, like, I'm kind of actually, I mean, because we're the first state that actually had our votes turned in for the election last year.
		Indiana was the first one that called it for Trump.
		And we're pretty red around here.
		And I was shocked to see this.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		So Republicans doing stupid things is literally the least shocking thing.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I would be interested to hear what the, you know, what the reason that they didn't vote generally, because you think if there's a bunch of them that are voting, I don't imagine they had a slew of different reasons.
		It's likely that they all kind of were like, no, we think this.
		And I'd be interested to hear their excuse.
		But this is, I mean, it's just mind-boggling to me as to why they would not vote yes for this, you know?
unidentified		So, my guess would be is the same way we look at like the marijuana laws, like we will not do anything that goes against the federal government.
		So, like, yeah, we have it in our constitution where we can change ours every five years if we want to, but we still try to keep the norms of things and we don't try to like make waves out there as a state.
		We try to like just fly under the radar.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they are all those people need to be primaried.
		And oh, yeah, they need to be out of there because they're not helping the Republican Party, they're not helping America at all.
		So, you got anything else you want to add or you want to shout anything out?
unidentified		Uh, no, that's it, guys.
		Thanks for having me up.
		It's been a while.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Well, thanks for calling in.
unidentified		Thank you.
		Take care.
		Thank you.
		You guys have a good night.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Cheers, what do you think?
		All right, next up, we got Crondors.
		What's going on, brother?
unidentified		Hey, good evening, everyone.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Good evening.
unidentified		So, my question is: Do you think any of the current events will still matter next year during the midterms?
		I mean, as long as Republicans can show that there's been improvements in immigration, the cost of food and gas, and just public safety.
		I mean, will people really care about Epsom, political indictments, or you know, anything foreign policy?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, I think the most impactful thing right now is Candace Owens.
		That's why she's coming up.
		The foreign policy stuff, the domestic issues, all of that changes throughout the next year.
		And a month is an eternity.
		So, really, it's going to be September and October that matter the most.
		However, if a new coalition emerges or a new faction emerges that splits the right in half, where people are consuming media in different directions, then come September, you're going to have crackpot Candace retard factory.
		And these people are going to think that gasoline is $12 a gallon, but that Trump and Israel are blackmailing Bridget McCrone's penis or whatever the fuck she's talking about, Egyptian airplanes.
		You're not going to be able to convince them.
		You're not going to be able to go to these people and say, hey, this is what Trump did that was good.
		Trump's going to, like, if they're allowed to continue, I guarantee you, it comes to the point where Candace accuses Trump of being involved in the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
		And then she's like, don't vote Republican.
		You can't do it.
		And that's the concern.
		She's pushing these people into the toilet.
		So, to your point, all the little things don't matter.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Like then, right now, the national average for gas is $294, which is down from $3 in May, $326.
		I'm sorry, $333 during the same period last year.
		There are some places I've seen that gas is actually down below $2.
		That kind of stuff can make a difference if the price for gas continues to decline and you have really, really inexpensive gas.
		I'm talking national average $250 below.
		Then that'll really make a dent because fuel prices affect everything.
		But again, I think that people do have a short memory.
		And I don't think that most of this stuff actually matters.
		Most of this stuff is daytime drama stuff.
		I will say that the people that pay attention to this stuff, I don't imagine that they're actually low-propensity voters.
		They tend to be a little more likely to go to the polls.
		But I do think that the economy is going to be the big thing that will get people out to the polls.
		And mostly, if the economy is really bad, it'll get people out to the polls.
		So the Republicans have an uphill battle.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		And it's true, but I also think more dumb stuff is going to happen this year.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		So, I mean, we're just brace yourself for more stupid shit.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		That's my take.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Anything you want to add?
unidentified		More stupid shit is coming, you guys.
		I mean, I agree with you.
		I mean, I feel like everyone's forgot all the winning we did earlier this year with the tariffs and all the changes that they brought in the first month, all the executive orders.
		So maybe, maybe in like starting January, we'll get a whole new slew of new things that everybody will forget about all this.
		And, you know, we'll move on to bigger and better things, right?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		We're also going to have some Supreme Court decisions, right?
		The Supreme Court is poised to decide on tariffs.
		They're going to hear the birthright citizenship thing.
		That's going to be pretty interesting.
		And they've heard a lot of, I'm sorry, I'm so sneezy.
		They heard a lot of like pretty interesting cases so far.
		They've got more to go.
		And once those start rolling out, June, July, it's going to change some stuff.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Got anything you want to add or you got anything you want to shout out?
unidentified		Nothing to shout out, but I just wanted to say one quick thing.
		I know we've been, I've kept hearing everybody saying that the right is fractured right now, but I just feel like it's more of an evolution.
		In the last few years, we've kind of been flooded with new members and new factions coming up.
		But it seems like every time something happens, we, you know, we lose something.
		Like we lost, you know, Alex Jones.
		We lost Charlie Kirk.
		We lost Parler.
		We lost, you know, Project Veritas.
		We've had new things, you know, sprout from these losses.
		I just feel like we're in a state of evolution, and this is just another one of these things where something falls and something new is going to show up, whatever that may be.
		So I know, I feel like people I've been talking to lately are kind of discouraged, but just I tell them, just give it a little bit more time.
		Something new will emerge and it'll be a new light to shine.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Fingers crossed, man.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right on, brother Peel.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for calling in.
unidentified		Thank you so much.
		Have a good evening, everyone.
		Have a good night with you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Next up, we have Bert.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Bert, yo, what up?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		I like the name.
unidentified		What's going on tonight, guys and girls?
		Thank you so much for taking my call.
		Sure, thanks.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		What's going on, man?
unidentified		So my question for tonight is, given that a lot of Candace's support, following off on the last question, seems to come from people that have absolutely no trust in our institutions, what can be done to restore trust in them.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I don't think that there's anything.
unidentified		no going back on that yeah i mean it depends on which institutions It's going to take time.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		The decentralization of information makes that almost impossible now.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Fair.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		In my opinion.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think that I think that it's not guaranteed that it's going to happen, but it would take a considerable amount of time.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		And I feel like it might even take a different government than we have.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I mean, the image of what you believed, not you specifically, but what the American people believed America was as it relates to government, as it relates to their educational institutions, as it relates to the press that reported on these things to them was a facade that was held up for decades that now is shattered and you can't go back to that.
		You don't have the world now where you had the guy in the suit on the four channels telling you what to believe.
		And there was a large percentage of the population, whether they want to admit it or not, probably appreciated the certainty that you were allowed to feel with something like that.
		And it's a terrifying thing to accept that that's not coming back anymore.
		And as the next, as each generation passes, they will have less and less faith in those institutions because they lived in a time where they were never something that was to believe, like to be believed in.
		So I don't think there's a way to go back to that.
		I think we're already seeing a sense now that people have less trust in even what we do here.
		And everybody's fractured into their own kind of subcommittee of what they believe in.
		And that's a grim outlook on things, but I think it's the most realistic.
		It's like the people talking about bringing back Zach Snyder's Justice League.
		It's just not going to happen, bro.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I wish.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I wish.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		I think that sounds very pessimistic and gloom and doom.
		I think we are in a bad place, obviously.
		There's no trust in institutions, each other, media, anywhere.
		But I think if we consistently look for truth and uphold truth as a value and begin to elect people that speak truth over time.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's your problem.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Elect people.
tina descovich ▲ ● ▼		I think the cream of the crop will rise to the top.
		I think it's going to take some time.
		But, you know, gosh, it's the end of the world if there's absolutely no trust anywhere.
		So I've got to be hopeful that.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I didn't necessarily mean that there's no hope anywhere.
		I'm just saying that the value that people placed on those institutions has gone.
		You guys talked about the like the unimportance of college earlier.
		College was one of those bastions of our institutions that was supposed to hold up the idea of free thought and the ability to pursue your education on any topic you wanted and you could come at it from any way and you were just out there to learn.
		And now we know that that's not true.
		We know that the news stations don't live by any means of truth.
		It's all narrative based on a producer's interpretation of what they want it to be.
		People will, at least in my opinion, continuously go to smaller and smaller micro communities to get their information.
		Unfortunately, a lot of that is, say, TikTok or places like that.
		And some people might actually see that as something beautiful, depending on how you interpret it, meaning that they think the idea of somebody being able to look, you know, what Tim built, you know, read the news in his room and report on the things that he sees to be wrong, they see something great in that.
		But the problem is not everybody has that drive to seek out information.
		They wanted to go someplace where they trusted in the people, you know, at a higher level, that everybody in that institution was there to guide them down the correct path.
		And I think we're past that time now.
		At least in this case.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think the institutions will be rebuilt.
		I think that in the 60s, we saw a lack of trust in institutions.
		You know, there's this great film.
		I don't know if you guys know this film written by Jules Pfeiffer called Little Murders.
		One of the seriously, one of the greatest films.
		You're a movie guy.
		It's one of the greatest films.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I've never seen it.
unidentified		I know.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		It's an old movie.
		So I'm now recommending it to you.
		Elliot Gould starred in it.
		And Vincent Gardinia was in it.
		Great film.
		Anyway, Jules Pfeiffer wrote it.
		Great playwright.
		Terrific.
		It was panned in the cinema.
		It was panned when it was on Broadway.
		Nobody liked it.
		I love this movie.
		Anyways, Vincent Gardenia, I'm pretty sure it's his character.
		He says, he says, I don't believe in God, but I believe in institutions.
		I'm a great believer in institutions.
		And another time he says, you know, destroy, destroy, destroy.
		When are you going to find time to build?
		And I think what's interesting about that is it's about a time in New York City when everything's going to hell and you walk out your front door and everyone's getting shot, right?
		And you have the chief of police is going around going, you know what?
		Because there's been like 700 unsolved murders or something like that.
		And he's like, you know what it is?
unidentified		It's a conspiracy to take down the police.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼		That's why all this shooting is going on because they don't want anyone to trust the police.
		And I guess my point is we've gone through times before when institutions have been have had low trust and those institutions have been rebuilt by people who appear to be more trustworthy and then they go into decline again.
		And I think that our culture is kind of like that.
		And while things, everything changes, sure, stuff comes back and is the same again as well.
		And people find their footing.

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