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seamus coughlin
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I am Seamus Coglin of Freedom Tunes and Twisted Plots.
I'm filling in for Tim right now, who happens to be away.
We've got a really awesome show for you tonight.
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And let's introduce everybody.
We have Libby.
How are you doing?
libby emmons
I'm good, Seamus.
Glad to be here.
I'm excited to watch your show.
That looks very good.
seamus coughlin
Thank you so much.
libby emmons
Uh I'm Libby Emmons.
I'm with the post-millennial.
riley moore
Hey there, Riley Moore, Congressman in the second congressional district, which we're sitting in right now.
Uh, you can follow me, Riley Moore WV.
Good to be back with you all.
Haven't been on in a little while, so it's always fun being on this show.
nick sortor
My name is Nick Sorter.
I am uh uh Portland police's most wanted uh criminal right now.
Uh recently charged with disorderly conduct for filming in the street.
And uh I'm happy to be here.
Thank you guys for inviting me.
phil labonte
Hello, everybody.
My name is Philibonti.
I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains.
I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary.
Let's get into it.
seamus coughlin
But hold on, before we dive into the story, what did you get in trouble for filming?
nick sortor
Uh the Antifa protest that's happening out there in front of the and I say when I say protest, I mean protest.
seamus coughlin
You mean mostly peaceful.
nick sortor
Oh, yeah, mostly peaceful, a little bit fiery most of the time.
seamus coughlin
Like I was mostly filming.
nick sortor
Yeah, right.
seamus coughlin
Should have been your defense.
I was mostly not filming, actually.
nick sortor
Yeah, yeah.
Well, so that's uh that's kind of the problem out there because the actual uh the legacy media out there doesn't bother uh covering the situation.
As you know, as Libby knows, I'm sure, you know, because you your reporter, Katie Daviscourt is like one of the best in the business.
I freaking love Katie.
Uh and she was out there, and I I saw her get hit with that flagpole and I watched the video of this assailant just walk away and say, uh, I I believe uh uh the police started walking uh with the assailant, and the poly the cops said, You're you're detained, you're not free to leave.
And and uh that assailant said, F you no, I'm not, and then walked away.
unidentified
Right.
libby emmons
And I started saying, I'm underage, and it's like, okay, so like so.
You should go to Juvie.
unidentified
Right.
libby emmons
Juventus to have that.
Yeah.
nick sortor
So I decided I was gonna go out there and uh and within like 24 hours of being there, Portland police arrested me, not her assailant, but me for filming in the street.
seamus coughlin
So can I ask you, like what what charges did they try to bring you up on here?
nick sortor
Disorderly conduct because filming because the rest of it is ordered apparently orderly.
seamus coughlin
It's very well ordered in it.
And then you showed up with your camera.
libby emmons
Yep.
seamus coughlin
It was all fine before you came here and filmed it.
Wow.
Okay.
Well, listen, it's all backwards.
We know it's all backwards.
We know they're all about political prosecutions.
And while they're out here arresting journalists for filming things they don't want the public to see, they're whining and complaining that Letisha James was indicted and charged in a fraud case after pressure by the Trump campaign.
So as you all remember, Letitia James actually ran on prosecuting Trump.
Highly unusual to run for office on prosecuting an individual person, but she did that.
And now she's gonna sit there and talk about how the system is weaponized, of course.
So uh New York Attorney General Letitia James was charged Thursday as part of a mortgage fraud investigation, aggressively pushed by the Trump administration, becoming the latest foe of the president to be prosecuted by his Justice Department.
You gotta love the framing there.
Political prosecutions just fell from the sky once Trump got elected.
Who's Letitia James?
What was she known for from before this happened?
And secondly, uh, of course, the article starts with she has been indicted.
There is uh pressure that the Trump administration has put on the Justice Department.
Now remember, when the Justice Department was charging people under Biden, we were told, well, that's separate from the Oval Office, and and Joe Biden doesn't determine who the Justice Department goes after.
But of course, we're told that President Trump put pressure.
Interesting, how now that's possible?
nick sortor
There is a fantastic post from Letisha James that resurfaced here.
Uh saying there's always a tweet for everything, man.
I'm telling you.
When powerful people cheat to get better loans, it comes at the expense of hard working people.
unidentified
She really say that's real.
nick sortor
Everyday Americans cannot lie to a bank to get a mortgage, and if they did, our government would throw the book at them.
There simply cannot be different rules for different people.
seamus coughlin
So is she saying she's not a regular American person?
riley moore
Don't forget that this all goes back to the Trump over, you know, supposedly overvaluing Mar-a-Lago.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, exactly.
riley moore
And she now is in trouble for mortgage fraud for some property that she has in Virginia, which is I think the shocking thing for them is that they're actually being prosecuted for committing crimes, which are used to just being able to do whatever the hell they want whenever they want to do it.
seamus coughlin
Why else get into politics?
nick sortor
Yeah, right.
libby emmons
These are also not things that they think are crimes when they do them.
seamus coughlin
Yes.
libby emmons
They just think it's crimes when these are crimes when Trump does it.
And if you remember, uh, during the Biden administration, you actually had Joe Biden saying uh to Merrick Garland to make sure to go ahead and prosecute Trump.
That happened.
And he would say repeatedly, oh, the DOJ is separate and that's independent.
But that was on the record.
The New York Times reported that out that Biden went to Merrick Garland and said that he wanted Trump prosecuted.
phil labonte
But this is something that we talked about last night, or that I talked about not last night, the night before.
Um the left doesn't actually have any principles.
They're not gonna go ahead and say, Well, we believe this is is something that is is we have to worry about when both sides do it or whatever.
They believe that words are just used to have access to power.
They don't believe anyone comes from a honest argument.
They don't believe there is honest arguments, they believe that it's all about exercising power.
So they're you can't call them hypocrites because they're not being hypocritical.
They just don't have any, they don't believe that you can make an honest argument.
Their point is we're we will make whatever argument we want we have to make to win.
And this goes back, this is this is because most of them believe in a postmodern philosophy, or at least uh uh a fundamental basic uh understanding of postmodernism as reality.
And they say look, they say that it doesn't really matter what I'm saying.
I just want to win the argument.
It doesn't matter.
I think it might have been Sartre that said this, but it I forget who it was.
But they said he said it doesn't matter if I'm making an honest argument.
All I have to be is interesting.
libby emmons
Right.
And the thing too.
The thing too is they they they believe the left believes that they have a moral authority, and they believe that that moral authority gives them the right to seek power at any cost.
And we need to remind them all the time that they actually have no moral authority, and part of that is that they have no morals.
unidentified
So there's nothing.
phil labonte
There's there's no you without look, I'm not particularly religious, but if you don't believe in a God, which most of them don't, there is no actual morality.
unidentified
Right.
phil labonte
And this is this is the point that's a hundred percent true.
libby emmons
And that that's for real.
And that's you know, you mentioned Satra, and if you go back to Satra said That existentialism was the scariest thing because it put all of the responsibility on mankind.
And these leftists not only believe that there's no God, but that they have no responsibility.
So it's even worse.
phil labonte
Yeah.
riley moore
So yeah, I mean, they're able to manifest their own desires through the their own power, right?
It's like the might makes right.
I mean, that's kind of the end of it.
It's I I'm, you know, might makes right, I have the power, therefore, I'm infallible.
Anything that I'm able to do is therefore correct.
I'm doing this for the greater good to defeat this evil that's out here, Donald Trump and the rest of the crew.
So the the it's Phil rightly put it, there are no morals.
There's no lines in the sand that they're not willing to cross.
It's might makes right, and they're gonna do what it takes to defeat their enemies.
seamus coughlin
That's right.
And I appreciate what you guys are touching on this idea of moral licensing.
I'm the good guy, so I can do whatever I want.
You hear them say this all the time.
Well, we're Antifa.
That just means anti-fascist, so we can do whatever we want.
That is such a facile argument.
That's like saying, well, well, you know, like fascism just comes from the word bundle.
So the antifa is against bundles.
Well, it doesn't make any sense.
Like, how deep are we gonna go in the deconstruction of words?
Obviously, they're okay with all of the emotional baggage that side up with fascism, and of course, for good reason, because fascism is a terrible ideology.
But that doesn't mean anyone who says I'm part of the anti-bad ideology club, I'm part of the Antifa club is a good person.
nick sortor
After spending a week out there with all these Antifa people, like they say they're anti-fascists, but these are some of the biggest fascists that I've ever dealt with in my life.
Try walking on their sidewalk and they're gonna beat you with a pole, right?
Yeah, and then and then they'll go, they'll call the cops on you.
They hate the cops.
seamus coughlin
And you film them and you shouldn't have done that.
You assault with a deadly camera.
nick sortor
Right.
unidentified
Right.
riley moore
In the end of the day for these folks, words are violence, right?
Anything that is the opposite of their worldview is violence.
seamus coughlin
Yep.
And except violence.
riley moore
Except violence.
seamus coughlin
Everything is violence except violence.
riley moore
Except when they except when they perpetrate violence, then it's justified.
seamus coughlin
Or it's like socioeconomic factors or something like that.
But they they are literally never responsible for violence.
I I appreciate what you guys were mentioning too about authority and how these people don't believe in God.
The word authority actually comes from the word author.
Is it's the creator who has the ultimate authority, and then we're able to participate in his authority, and that's what legitimate authority is.
And through God's permissive will, obviously, there are people in positions of authority who aren't great people who we don't want to have be there, but that's the ultimate source of authority.
And so, of course, people who don't believe in him, and especially these leftists who just openly hate him, they're not gonna respect rules and norms of morality when they come into power.
They're not even running their own lives well.
Like, have you ever seen listen?
I have known a number of left-wing people in my life.
I've had a number of friends who are left-wing, some of them were decently cool people, but for the most part, and I say this like even sympathetically about the ones I'm really cool with, like their lives are often just not in a place that you want to emulate.
On rare occasions they are, but for the for the vast majority of circumstances, it's like you're someone who isn't even in control of your own life, and that's why you want to control everyone else, right?
Who oh, I think it might have been Augustine who said this, that it's like any like it's it's harder to conquer yourself than to conquer the world.
They can't conquer themselves, and they're not even trying, so they just have to go try to control everything else.
libby emmons
Well, part of that is that they worship themselves.
seamus coughlin
Yes, yes, yeah.
libby emmons
And so that's what they worship.
phil labonte
To that point, like there, there's a lot of people that would call themselves Satanists, but really what it is is worship of the self.
seamus coughlin
That is Satanism, actually.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
phil labonte
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
libby emmons
If you look at like the abortion ritual that the satanic temple put out, it's all about like, oh, I'm more important than the baby.
phil labonte
Yeah, like do like the I mean the Satanists have a have a saying like uh do what thou will but harm none or whatever, but they believe that revenge is okay and and etc.
And that's something that you see a lot in Antifa.
They a lot of them wear, you know, pentagrams or or the you know, the goat and stuff like that.
And look, I mean, I've been in a metal band for 20.
You know, I've been in a metal band for 25 years, so this kind of this kind of uh that kind of that imagery doesn't phase me, but when you see these people doing it, like you really do understand that this is not about just imagery, it's about them actually worshiping themselves, believing that the way to fulfillment is giving in to every whim you have, and that is completely antithetical to what reality tells us.
Like freedom comes with discipline, because if you're not disciplined, then every whim you have, you're you're a slave to.
You know, whether it be whether it be I'm I'm hungry and I want to eat something that's bad for me, or I don't feel like going to the gym, so that way I you know I gain weight and I get out of shape and I look, I I feel terrible all the time.
Like actual freedom comes with the discipline to say, I want this and I'm going to do the things that I need to do to achieve this.
seamus coughlin
Exactly.
The freedom to do as you ought.
You asked the question, like, you know, we as modern people tend to think of freedom as a political concept, as a choice between two different options.
What freedom actually means is the true ability to choose the good.
So if I'm someone who's always eating twinkies and I never work out, and like Phil is somebody who's always working out and he's getting shredded, if Phil wants to do my thing for a day, if he wants to just chill out and need Twinkies, he's like kind of he can make that decision because he's disciplined enough to do other things.
It is way harder for me to like get up and go to a gym.
So the more in vice you are, the less free you actually are because that momentum stops you from being able to make other choices.
libby emmons
Of course, Vice Vice enslaves you.
seamus coughlin
It's exactly a man has as many masters as he does vices.
But it's specifically on this this topic with Letitia James.
My my question to you guys is as we see this ramping up, do you think the Trump administration actually has what it takes to go all the way on these things?
Because as you know, he who digs half a grave, or I'm sorry, he who he who fights half a revolution digs his own grave.
Like if you only take it halfway there, then they come to power and then you're in jail and your constituents get locked up.
Do you think the Trump administration is gonna go all the way with this?
riley moore
I think President Trump's acutely aware of the consequences of losing in any of this.
I think he's acutely aware of that.
phil labonte
Um I just want to I want to hear everyone because I I think I have a different take.
riley moore
Yeah, I I think he's acutely aware of that.
Um look, the the Department of Justice is gonna go through this process.
I think all of the President Trump supporters, including myself, they want to see it go all the way.
Folks in Congress want to see it go all the way.
Um we're gonna see, I guess, but I I I got a lot of confidence in it.
I do, I got a lot of confidence.
Oh, you got another take, though, man.
nick sortor
I find it very unlikely that the Trump administration is actually they're not going to bring charges that they don't think will stick.
Yeah, uh, and so that's one of the biggest parts about this because if the if you get Comey or Letitia James or you know, God forbid both uh are acquitted, you're I mean, it it it just makes your entire de uh Department of Justice look like a total joke.
seamus coughlin
And it's theater, yeah.
It was just theater.
nick sortor
So that's uh so we can't have that.
And uh and I think that's why it's moving a lot slower than people want it to.
Uh, but I have it on very good authority that this is the first two of uh many, and there are some bigger names in that part.
seamus coughlin
Thank goodness, thank goodness.
Libby, do you had something to say about it?
libby emmons
Um yeah, I do think the Department of Justice is actually moving relatively quickly with all of this, and they have so many cases.
nick sortor
Because they actually have to put it to a grand jury first as well.
libby emmons
They have to put it to a grand jury, but also they've been dealing with so many of these ludicrous judges coming back and saying that the federal government doesn't have the authority to deport criminal illegal immigrants or to bring in the National Guard to protect ice agents doing their job.
So the DOJ really has their hands full, and I wouldn't be surprised if some of these fall through the cracks, but um I think that they're moving as quickly as they can, and I think they have good people on it.
phil labonte
All right, so I don't think that Trump has the stomach to do what's necessary.
And the reason I say that is because if there is one thing that Trump wants, it's people to like him.
And he, when people say they're upset, they're angry, when his poll numbers start tanking for whatever reason, he will change course.
He always does this.
And I was saying this on thirst on Tuesday, he is the president that is very pragmatic when he sees that his policies are not popular or not working, he will change them.
And I think that what Trump will do.
Now I'm not talking about just specifically with Letitia James or or what have you.
I'm talking about the real gutting of of these NGOs and the international stuff when it comes to Antifa and stuff like that.
That's where the real issue lies.
Not just, sure, there are there are people in the in the in the bureaucracy that are bad and that that should be you know tried.
We should if they've if they've got they've broken the law, or if if uh um a grand jury thinks that they can can have enough evidence to to try them, I want that.
But I don't know that Trump has the stomach to really push it as far as he has to.
I would like to be especially because as as soon as I think that I think I think in 2008, I don't if he doesn't hold the Congress, if if the Republicans don't hold the Congress, there will or I mean sorry, 2028 when when uh when the House is up for for election again.
Yeah, yeah, or 26, I'm sorry.
Um I don't think that if if the Republicans don't hold the Congress, I think they're they're gonna be impeachments and they're gonna do everything they can to do.
There definitely will be.
You know, that that's without a question.
libby emmons
They've said they've said it out right.
unidentified
I don't know.
phil labonte
Yeah, I don't think that he has the time.
Hold on, let me let me finish.
He doesn't have the time.
And I think that the only chance that we have of actually fixing things long term is someone that's more aggressive than Trump coming after him.
And I don't know that that's gonna happen, but I if JD Vance were the guy, and I'm not saying that he is, but we need someone that is literally twice as aggressive as Trump.
Yes, someone that will actually make the left say there's will actually frighten the left.
Because right now they talk like they're free.
seamus coughlin
Exactly.
Someone who will actually make the left afraid instead of pretend afraid.
phil labonte
They say all the stuff that they call Trump, that's what we actually need.
Someone that will really push the boundaries of the law.
riley moore
Yeah, look, in God willing, I want JD.
I think JD is gonna be the guy.
I think JD stands a very good chance when uh vice president, hopefully be the next president.
I want to see people locked up.
I want put folks locked up.
I'm tired of just our side getting locked up for just made-up stuff.
When you have real things here, like this Russia collusion hoax, that's why they got Comey indicted over here.
Someone's gotta go to jail over this.
And I think the voters, the base, we all want it.
Members of Congress like myself, someone's gotta pay because this is not right.
seamus coughlin
And you know what, guys?
Anyone who thinks this is too far, how could we be uh indicting um a politician in the United States?
Let me tell you a story.
For those who haven't heard me talk about this before, there was a gentleman by the name of Mark Hauk.
He's uh a family man, pro-life activist.
He was protesting outside of an abortion clinic, and this vulgar, obscene older man started making sexually charged comments at his 12-year-old boy.
So he pushed this man away.
The Soros funded prosecutor in that area said it was a nothing burger, said that they weren't gonna go after him, said that there was there was nothing there.
The juice wasn't worth the squeeze, it wouldn't be worth the car ride to his house.
Okay.
Then, after Rose overturned, what does the Biden administration do?
A year after this happened, they charged this man with a violation of the Face Act.
They said they sent a SWAT team to his house in the middle of the night to arrest him and drag him out of his home.
And this woman thinks she's above the law when this has been happening in her country under her nose.
Like granted, this wasn't her jurisdiction, but it doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter.
These people are all part of the same system, and they're punishing regular Americans for completely political reasons.
She ran on charging Trump for political reasons, and now she's being charged for something that I'm sorry, does not look political to me based on what I'm reading.
riley moore
She committed a crime.
She committed a crime.
You know, I mean, just to my opinion, innocent to proven guilty.
unidentified
Exactly.
seamus coughlin
That's that's why I'm being careful and seeing based on the evidence.
But my understanding of the case is they're saying that she purchased a house.
Again, this is allegedly, this is what they're saying in the indictment.
They're saying she purchased a three-bedroom home.
She said that it was a second residence so that she could get a lower interest rate on it, but according to the indictment, they're saying that she was renting it out.
Something like that.
She wasn't actually using it as a resident.
See is the point.
And so they're alleging that there was fraud.
Oh, and she's not like a political thing, dude.
That's like fraud's not legal.
nick sortor
Right.
libby emmons
Adam Schiff do something like that, didn't he say two places where it is primary residents?
nick sortor
At the time, you're a representative from California and you're calling a Maryland resident your primary.
I mean, it seems like this doesn't make sense.
libby emmons
He shouldn't have his seat or he's committed to.
nick sortor
See, he wasn't eligible to if that was actually his primary residence, he wasn't eligible to run for uh for Congress.
libby emmons
Is Wyden's Washington or is he Oregon?
nick sortor
Wyden.
libby emmons
Um but doesn't he live basically in his in a penthouse in New York?
I mean like a townhouse in New York City.
nick sortor
Yeah.
riley moore
Yeah.
libby emmons
Wyden.
And doesn't he have like two other addresses as well?
He has a a place in Oregon and he has a place in uh DC in DC.
riley moore
Yeah.
libby emmons
Like, where does he actually live?
Because I posted something about Wyden being a doofus on Twitter.
riley moore
And you say that article about his family.
libby emmons
You were right.
Yeah, and then I went and read an article because somebody commented and they were like, he doesn't even live here, he lives in New York.
unidentified
Yeah.
libby emmons
And I started looking it up, and I was like, damn, he doesn't live in Oregon.
riley moore
Yeah, no.
seamus coughlin
That's not that's actually insane.
libby emmons
His wife is the heiress to the strand bookstore fortune.
unidentified
Wow.
seamus coughlin
Um, I just I want to draw your guys' attention to this.
She did post a video on Twitter.
Uh I was watching it a little bit earlier.
There's something, I'll just be honest, there's something unsettling about it.
There's something unsettling about it.
Like if she didn't share it, I would think it was AI or something.
It's really weird.
letitia james
This is nothing more than a continuation of the president's desperate weaponization of our justice system.
He's forcing federal law enforcement agencies to do his bidding.
All because I did my job as the New York State Attorney General.
These charges are baseless.
And the president's own public statements make clear that his only goal is political retribution at any cost.
The president's actions are a grave violation of our constitutional order and have drawn sharp criticism from members of both parties.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
letitia james
His decision to fire a United States attorney who refused to bring charges against me and replace them with someone who is blindly loyal, not to the law, but to the president, is antithetical to the bedrock principles of our country.
seamus coughlin
She thinks she's above the law.
letitia james
This is the time for leaders.
riley moore
You mean the Biden U.S. attorney didn't want to charge you and he appointed a...
letitia james
To speak out against this blatant perversion of our system of justice.
seamus coughlin
This justice.
letitia james
I stand strongly behind my office's litigation against the Trump organization.
We conducted a two-year investigation based on the facts and evidence, not politics.
Judges have upheld the trial court's finding that Donald Trump, his company, and his two sons.
seamus coughlin
Hold on, I just I gotta she she talks like William Shatner in Star Trek.
She sounds like she talks like Capsic, justice in this country must.
letitia james
Liable for fraud.
I'm a proud woman of faith.
I know that faith and fear cannot share the same space.
And so today I'm not fearful.
I'm fearless.
And as my faith teaches me, no weapon formed against me shall prosper.
nick sortor
She would version of Chad charges aggressively.
letitia james
And my office will continue to fiercely protect New Yorkers and their rights.
phil labonte
That's insane.
letitia james
And I will continue to do my job.
seamus coughlin
I don't know why she's talking that way, dude.
This is bizarre.
phil labonte
She ran she ran on finding some way to prosecute her.
She literally ran on literally, like not like openly.
There's no there was there was nothing subtle.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
It was no nothing subtle.
It was like, we're gonna get Trump.
nick sortor
Yeah.
phil labonte
And now to say stuff like this, it's insane.
nick sortor
Dude, that lazy eye was getting to me that entire time, too.
I didn't even know she had that thing.
seamus coughlin
I don't want to make fun of her for that, but her.
nick sortor
I'm gonna make fun of her for everything.
I hope that they've got a four XL jumpsuit waiting for her.
Set one aside.
Big Tish.
phil labonte
It just bought it bothers me so much knowing that you can just go look at her campaign.
Well, you she was openly saying, I will use the Justice Department to get Donald Trump.
And then when you get into the details of the of the case that she had against him.
This is the because this was the Florida one about the value of the Yeah.
Like the bank went on on record saying, no, we would do business with the Trump organization again.
We made money, we went into this knowing full well what the situation was.
The Trump organization, these are all sophisticated actors.
They all have agency.
They all know the business very well.
Everybody involved was completely happy with the transaction.
And then Letitia James came in and said, We have we're going to basically erroneously or illegally value the house, the property, like a hundred million dollars less than the surrounding properties.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And and and we're gonna prosecute on those insane.
riley moore
So right after the election, I I was in Mar-a-Laga with Trump, and he was talking about this.
He's like, You see the you see the chandelier here.
It's worth more than the valuation that they're talking about.
This chandelier alone is worth more than what they're talking about here.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, I mean, this is all insane.
It it listen, it makes our blood boil, it makes us angry.
Um, is when someone dumps boiling potatoes on my head.
riley moore
I hate when that happens.
seamus coughlin
I hate when that happens.
Don't you like potatoes, Seamus?
I do, but not like that.
That's not my preferred way of consuming them.
Well, there were some allegations.
riley moore
No way a shamus doesn't like potatoes.
seamus coughlin
Of course, dude.
unidentified
Of course.
seamus coughlin
Listen, I love potatoes.
I don't like them being abused in that way.
And that's why I want to talk about our next story.
It's very important to me.
Katie Porter, she had the CBS meltdown.
You guys probably saw it.
And now these abuse allegations have resurfaced that she once dumped boiling potatoes on her ex-husband's head.
So people who are upset about that kind of thing, which is most normal people, uh probably aren't gonna want to vote for her.
But I just gotta say, listen, this is all allegedly what happened.
These are allegations.
It's really specific.
It's a really specific accusation in my mind.
So let's let's let's read about this.
Um abuse allegations against Katie Porter have resurfaced after she threatened to walk out of a CBS interview on being asked a simple question.
Her former husband, Matthew Hoffman, previously claimed the ex-Congresswoman often abused him verbally and even threw toys, books, and other objects at him during their marriage.
Hoffman also accused Porter of pouring scalding hot mashed potatoes on his head during a fight, divorce records show, according to 2023.
riley moore
Yes, mashed potatoes.
seamus coughlin
Well, this is the thing.
I know it's it's it's easy to like see that, and listen this is ridiculous.
Well, and this is ridiculous.
And I was kind of like, listen, I was joking a little bit, especially because how specific it is, but like genuinely that there's a horrible thing to do to somebody.
What she's like, pouring burning cement on your own.
Yeah, that's like you could really burn somebody.
Um that's abuse.
If if this is true, this is a woman who is abusing her ex-husband.
Total, total not listen, I'm not again, it's alleged, but none of this seems inconsistent with the clips we've seen.
libby emmons
No, she seems like absolutely a horrible thing.
riley moore
I think she there was there was another thing in those records where she like smashed a coffee pot and then threw it at her husband too.
I think I remember reading that.
libby emmons
Uh and somehow she's got her 12-year-old daughter to, or she did at a certain point.
Her 12-year-old daughter was terrified she was gonna get raped and not be able to have an abortion.
seamus coughlin
What?
riley moore
Because Trump won.
libby emmons
Yeah, because Trump won and her daughter was crying, and her daughter was 12 at the time and was scared that she was gonna get raped and not be able to have an abortion.
nick sortor
The most surprising part of all of this is the fact that somebody slept with her at some point and created a daughter.
Uh that's that's first off.
Uh secondly, like this is you she went to CBS, right?
Well, CBS is like running cover for Democrats all the time.
So that's what she was expecting.
And she's like, What?
You're asking me questions?
What is this?
seamus coughlin
It wasn't even like that hard of a question.
riley moore
No, no, the best part about it is it was a follow-up question.
Yeah, like they never get follow-up questions.
Like, excuse me?
Like, what there's a follow-up here?
seamus coughlin
Who do you think you're?
libby emmons
Yeah, and she said she's never had that experience before at this time.
nick sortor
It says a lot.
riley moore
I told me everyone question before.
People just take what I say is truth.
Uh, to contextualize a little bit though, what Libby said, that statement about her daughter and uh Trump won and what if she gets raped and now she can't have an abortion.
She said she was crying about that after she picked her up from water polo practice.
libby emmons
Right, water polo practice.
Yeah, that was the other part of it.
riley moore
It was just perfect.
seamus coughlin
What is what a sickness?
libby emmons
This is this is what she said.
I don't care.
I don't I want to have a pleasant, positive conversation in which you ask me about every issue on this list.
And if every question you're going to make a follow-up question, then we're never going to get there, and we're just going to circle around.
I have never had to do this before.
And the reporter says, I, you know, every other candidate has done this, and Porter says, What part of I'm me?
I'm running for governor because I'm a leader.
So I'm going to.
And then she just kept going.
I don't know.
She said I don't want to have an unhappy experience with you, and I don't want this all on camera.
seamus coughlin
Imagine you were like, imagine you were dating someone and they said that to you.
You'd be like, jetpack, bro, eject button right now.
libby emmons
Yeah, we're done.
seamus coughlin
I'm me.
libby emmons
And I'm a leader, and I'm me.
seamus coughlin
Okay, yes, you're there's one of a kind.
One of a kind.
unidentified
Thank goodness.
riley moore
The subtext there is because the Democrats cook all this stuff.
It's like, it's my turn.
The machine has given me my turn.
libby emmons
It's her turn.
riley moore
We and you can tell she's upset because they all submit the questions in advance.
Here's what I want to get asked of me.
No follow-up because obviously that never happens.
I just get to say whatever the hell I want and look great.
phil labonte
The real problem with this is she's still most likely to win.
libby emmons
So Spanberger and Abigail Spanberger tonight said that she would not withdraw her endorsement of Jay Jones, who thinks it's fun to joke about uh murdering his Republican colleagues.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, and who fantasizes about children dying completely in their mother's arms.
Creep.
Disgusting.
phil labonte
The pro like as much as we can we can criticize these people.
But they're gonna win if we want.
But the fact of the matter is it's not just the the people that are running, it's the people that are electing them.
You know, we've got half the country or whatever that feel like it's acceptable for the for people like this to be in public office.
How many it was like 30% of young democrats think that violence is acceptable.
You know, in the most recent poll on this.
Like we've got a real big problem because these people that are young, these young people in 10 years, they're not gonna be kids anymore, and they're gonna be in positions of authority.
And this is the argument, and this is the problem that was identified 15 years ago about woke people, right?
Like woke people, like woke.
It used to be, oh, that's an online phenomenon.
When when people that were very online were saying, look, this is gonna be a problem.
Oh, that they're just kids on Tumblr.
They'll grow out of it.
They'll you know, once once they get out of college and they get to the real world, blah, blah, blah.
And what happened?
They got out of college and they got into human resources departments, and you ended up having these people doing all the hiring.
That means the only people they got hired were people that agreed with them ideologically, and that's a massive problem for our whole society.
This is re this is a real clear and present danger in 10, 15 years.
This is going to be a horrible, horrible situation in the country.
libby emmons
I will say conservative cousin does human resources, and she's the only good human resources person that it's it's I I want to mention this, Phil.
seamus coughlin
I totally agree with you.
And I remember when that was happening, people were going, oh, they're just crazy college students, or like it's just niche lefties on the internet.
But those same people, they're like, There's a website that invented terrorism, it's called 4chan.
phil labonte
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
If you go there, you'll find out why our country has so many Nazis running around the streets.
And it's like, okay, there was obviously a double standard at that point in time because they knew that actually, even though we like to say the internet isn't real life, it is made of real people, at least it was at the time before we had all the bots.
phil labonte
Nowadays, the internet is not just real life, it is a prediction machine.
If you pay attention to the things that people are saying on the internet, specifically young people, you can predict what society's gonna be like in 10 years.
And right now, it doesn't look effing good at all.
At all.
riley moore
Now, the if if the real young generation, though, I mean, go look the Gen Z's, they're conservative.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, I was gonna say, yeah, they are convinced.
phil labonte
There's none of them.
We talked about it.
riley moore
I mean, they're they're voting for Trump.
I mean, I it's moving in that.
libby emmons
It's not enough of anybody.
phil labonte
I give you, I'll give you that, Riley, but but we talk about this all the time.
There is like the millennial generation was significantly smaller than Gen X. Gen Z is significantly smaller than the millennials.
libby emmons
Wait, millennial was smaller than Gen X?
unidentified
Yeah.
libby emmons
And Gen X was tiny.
phil labonte
I'm pretty sure I could I so I so I could listen, I so I could be wrong about that, but I know that the the Gen Z is smaller than millennials, and Gen Alpha's smaller than Gen Z. So if if the younger people are actually conservative, that's great, but there aren't enough of them, and they don't vote, and you're talking about 50 years before they're a reliable voting block.
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
Interesting.
unidentified
Yeah.
riley moore
Now, before we move off of this, well, we're gonna let's watch the clip.
But if this isn't part of it, at some point, there's a great clip of her in a Batman costume.
Oh yeah.
So she dressed up as Batman and sat in a congressional hearing like that.
unidentified
What?
phil labonte
She must get out of my shot.
riley moore
This is it.
libby emmons
I'm not over here like Nick.
Why are you trying to insult?
riley moore
You gotta find the Batman.
libby emmons
That one's crazy, and I want to hear what you have to say about it.
seamus coughlin
Let's let's watch this.
libby emmons
Can we see Katie Porter and the Batman outfit just so Nick can say something?
seamus coughlin
100%.
We're gonna watch this first, and then we're uh we're gonna get that pulled up while we're watching this.
katie porter
And this is a good thing.
riley moore
Of course, this person's wearing a mask in the background.
katie porter
Get out of my fucking shots.
unidentified
Oh my god.
It's not that it's electric vehicles, it's that and we don't need the commitments under the pocket.
libby emmons
And she was wrong.
katie porter
Okay, it does okay.
unidentified
You also were in my shop before that.
katie porter
Stay out of my shot.
unidentified
Okay.
katie porter
I'm gonna start again with um electric vehicles saving us money.
nick sortor
They didn't bleep the word effing, but they bleeped some other word.
It's like, what the hell did she call that person?
riley moore
Did she say electric pickles?
unidentified
Goes with the potatoes.
katie porter
I'm so sorry, but I am about to get on Bernard.
I need you to turn these off.
These that are killing me.
Hang on one second, everybody.
Yes, we should have.
unidentified
Yes.
katie porter
Okay, everybody.
I'm not that dark.
unidentified
That's too dark.
riley moore
Man, she's about to pour potatoes on somebody.
katie porter
Just do it.
riley moore
It's...
libby emmons
Then it's just the name.
Does she come back?
unidentified
Yeah, do we see we have do we have the pleasure of singer again?
seamus coughlin
Oh no, there's more happen in this video.
katie porter
Okay, everybody, I'm sorry about that.
I am in a TV studio.
Um getting ready to go on Cuomo.
unidentified
And so I had all those studio lights on me, and I couldn't see myself or see you guys.
katie porter
Oh yeah.
libby emmons
Wow.
nick sortor
I I prefer I prefer it with the lights off, so I can't see her.
seamus coughlin
Did you see that as Batman?
Can we find the Batman cream?
riley moore
Did you see that assistant just fleeing for her life?
unidentified
Oh, she was there.
seamus coughlin
Oh no!
riley moore
Like I'm in the background again.
seamus coughlin
Oh my gosh.
libby emmons
Just with the mask.
I bet she's told to wear it.
seamus coughlin
She was okay.
She's Batgirl.
unidentified
I didn't show you that.
libby emmons
Nobody else is in costume.
riley moore
No.
libby emmons
It's not even Halloween.
Even Rashida Talib is laughing at her.
unidentified
She looks ridiculous.
That's hysterical.
Wow.
nick sortor
How many people are in California?
30 something million?
unidentified
This is the front runner for governor in California?
nick sortor
What is what are they putting in the water out there, man?
unidentified
Yeah.
riley moore
This one's great.
unidentified
Yeah, this is just a good one.
seamus coughlin
Oh, yeah, we didn't watch this one yet, did we?
This one started all off.
unidentified
So nearly every legislature is 40 million.
katie porter
And I don't want this all on camera.
julie watts
I don't want to have an unhappy experience with you either.
I would love to continue to ask these questions so that we can show our viewers what every candidate feels about every one of these issues that they care about.
And we're disturbing it's a massive issue.
We're gonna do an entire story just on the responses to the case.
riley moore
There we go.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
Like I just stop with that guy's face.
unidentified
Like, uh that just feels like an appropriate.
libby emmons
She looked, I gotta say, she looked better in the Batman costume than that dress.
nick sortor
Yeah, that's side profile.
Oh, that was rough.
libby emmons
Pretty rough.
unidentified
I wouldn't want to be on camera either with that.
seamus coughlin
Like what is happening?
Why are these the candidates?
Listen, political leaders have always had some issues behind the scenes, right?
It is it just that because we have the internet, we're able to see this stuff more often.
Like if this happened 30 years ago, we never would have saw it.
riley moore
No, no, no.
That that is true.
That's a good point.
Now, I I what I'd like to know is who is that assistant?
Is she like tied up in a basement somewhere?
seamus coughlin
Like, what is happening without her back cape, bro?
nick sortor
Yeah.
riley moore
She's only allowed to come out when she's doing TV appearances to turn lights on.
seamus coughlin
Oh my gosh.
Oh my gosh.
Well, look.
riley moore
And I want to know if she wears the mask or if Porter makes her wear the mask.
Is that her decision?
Or Porters say put that on when you're around me.
nick sortor
Well, there was some I saw some text messages come out today from uh a former staffer of Katie Porter.
That was uh Katie blamed this person for the fact that she got COVID at one point.
Oh uh and so she fired the staffer by text message and said, How dare you get me sick?
Uh and uh and so that's probably why everybody else was like, I'm gonna freaking wear a mask all the time now.
Yeah, she's something wrong with her.
seamus coughlin
That's a good point, actually.
That's probably why those people were all wearing masks.
Uh that's a very good point.
riley moore
I don't know why I get this like image of her pouring those potatoes.
If you all ever watch Game of Thrones, remember like poured like the like the melted metal on that guy who wanted to be king at one point.
It's like a crown for a king.
Like that's what I figured, like kind of what happened to him.
seamus coughlin
She's like, oh, you think you're the man of the house?
Yeah.
unidentified
And the king is crowned.
seamus coughlin
Um, man, we've got another really wild story.
I wish I could tell you we were bringing you to something uh, you know, a little more mild, but this is this is nuts.
Um it's a big story.
Listen, regardless of where you land on this, by the way.
This is uh a huge issue.
So RFK said that circumcision is highly linked to autism.
Now, I'm sure people are just gonna run with that without the full context, but he did also say that it was because basically, and I don't even know if he did say this, but my understanding is he was making the argument that this is because babies are given Tylenol after they're circumcised.
unidentified
He wasn't just saying that, like circumcised makes you autist.
seamus coughlin
But um Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy stunningly claimed Thursday there may be a link between circumcision and autism due to the distribution of to Tylenol um to infants following the procedure.
I I just want to point something out by the way.
I'm not a medical expert, I know nothing about this.
I have not looked into what he's said about Tylenol.
I'm not making a claim one way or the other, but what I am saying is like if it is the case that Tylenol does have that effect or that it could be contributing to it, then the circumcision thing and babies being given the medicine after that would actually be a link.
So I understand why it sounds like a crazy statement, but it's only the whether it's crazy hinges on whether his claim about Tylenol is true at all, but you can tell because listen, it's kind of an unfortunate statement that it's it's just gonna hit the ears very funny.
libby emmons
This reminds me of on arrested development, Lindsay Bluth.
Did you guys ever watch a restaurant?
seamus coughlin
Oh, yeah, of course, yeah.
libby emmons
And she had hoop hands off our penises.
unidentified
It was like anti-circumcision crew.
But RFK would totally go to that gala.
nick sortor
Luckily, uh, we had I had to make sure I pulled this up so I read it correctly here.
Uh we uh got a response that everybody was looking for from uh Jerry Nadler, one of the the best intellectuals in Congress.
Uh he quoted it, said this is an anti-Semitic remark.
I call on all my colleagues on both sides of the aisle to clearly denounce it.
I miss the anti-Semitism here.
I don't know.
libby emmons
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
Because here's the thing.
First of all, I mean, I'll just be honest, I'm against circumcision.
I think it's a bad thing to do.
But let's just say that he's he's correct.
Okay.
Well, then the argument is about Tylenol after circumcision.
So I that's not even it's not even like an anti-circumcision statement, actually.
It's a statement about giving kids Tylenol right after you circumcise them.
I don't know how that can be anti-Semitic.
Like Tylenol is not part of the ritual.
nick sortor
So 65 to 8, I'm sorry, 65 to 80% of US males are circumcised, and Jewish people are 2% of the population.
I've no idea what this has to do with circumcision.
Uh, but uh, but yeah, go ahead.
Or anti-Semitic.
I know it has to do with circumcision or not anti-semitism.
riley moore
Yeah, I think part of it was what they're talking about in terms of Tylenol, acetamenophen, which is Tylenol, actually doesn't have any pain-relieving properties, apparently in it.
Also, full disclosure, I'm not a doctor.
Um that's where you know, people started moving towards um ibuprofen, right?
Like Advil, things like that to be able to deal with that.
And so it was even doctors say it's like unless you have like a super high fever, like 104, 1005, like acetamenophen is something that could help address that.
But the end of the day, it's it's not a like a have properties that deal with pain relief whatsoever, uh, which is shocking if that's true that we gave it to hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people uh in the country, uh, young babies when they were circumcised.
And so there's obviously correlation that Kennedy's trying to draw here, right?
Double the rate of oxygen.
phil labonte
So, yeah, I can look I to that point.
I don't know, I I'm not a doctor either, but excedrin has acetaminophen in it, and that is like the best headache medication I've ever had.
So I don't know.
I don't know.
unidentified
Yeah, I don't know.
phil labonte
I'm not saying I'm not saying you're right or wrong.
I'm just saying my experience is oh, and I'm not saying I'm right or wrong.
riley moore
Like I'm just saying this is what folks are saying.
phil labonte
If I got pain, I'm going if I get a headache or whatever, I'm going for exagerant is what I'm saying.
unidentified
But um But didn't Tylenol say something at one point?
phil labonte
Yeah, they were saying don't use don't give this to to your uh if you're pregnant, don't take this.
It wasn't Tylenol.
There were tweets from Tylenol in 2013, 2017.
We don't recommend that our product be taken by pregnant women at all.
nick sortor
Well, I think they said pregnant people.
phil labonte
Uh this is before that.
Before I was 13, 2013, nobody believed that men could get pregnant.
riley moore
Nobody still believes just women could be pregnant.
seamus coughlin
That was yeah, back in the dark ages.
Uh this is the other thing too.
I mean, when it comes to this whole conversation about Tylenol, taking Tylenol when you're pregnant, listen, I don't think you have to be that crunchy or that skeptical of the medical system to say people should err on the side of non-intervention, especially when they're pregnant.
Um I I'm not giving any medical advice here.
I'm just saying, in my personal opinion, I don't think it's a crazy thing to say, let's be careful about the medicines we're taking we're pregnant.
Because like you're supposed to be careful about the kinds of food you're eating when you're pregnant.
They say you're supposed to avoid certain foods that you can normally can have.
So it doesn't seem outlandish to me that you know somebody might say, hey, we recommend staying away from these medicines.
Again, that's not me giving medical advice.
I'm not an expert.
I just find it uh interesting that when RFK says something, there's an entire explosion around the statement, and everyone says it has to be false, and he's nuts, but to me, I don't know, it doesn't seem that wild.
Um, not necessarily his his claim about like circumcision, but just about avoiding um certain interventions.
Now children, so this is what RFK Jr. said.
We have this uh video pulled up here.
robert f kennedy-jr
Oh, so just there's other many, many other conf confirmation studies.
Um there's two studies that show children who are circumcised early have called the rape autism.
It's highly likely because they're given Tylenol.
Oh, you know, none of this is positive all of it.
We should be paying attention to it.
unidentified
Yeah.
donald j trump
But you know, there's a tremendous uh amount of proof or evidence, I would say is a non-doctor, but I've studied this a long time ago.
You know, I meant five.
seamus coughlin
Now, again, we have this study here.
I'm gonna say this a couple other times, just because this is Tim's channel.
I want to be careful.
I'm not a medical expert, I'm not making medical claims.
But it makes sense to me that if you have a study that tells you there's a disparity between two different groups of people who you're trying to measure outcomes for, you probably look into that instead of laughing at somebody for pointing it out, no?
But uh, what about this one?
What is this?
Um, circumcision.
All right, so this according to this article, the pain of it is unlikely to cause uh autism.
unidentified
Yeah, I had to bring it up.
seamus coughlin
Interesting.
Okay.
libby emmons
Oh, but was RK saying that there was a correlation or was it causation or she was saying there's a correlation.
seamus coughlin
I don't know if he was even.
libby emmons
Because the thing too is that you can take any collection of information about a thing and put it together and say, here are stats, but that doesn't mean that those things are related in any conceivable way.
phil labonte
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
No, it's true.
And uh, by the way, I want to mention that's an important distinction.
We pulled that up, doesn't it?
libby emmons
Did he claim like most people wearing blue shirts in the room are named Seamus?
seamus coughlin
That's true.
Well, actually, I mean, there's the famous um And now well, but he wasn't in the room when people with uh the shark attacks, people like eating ice cream are more likely to be attacked by sharks, but it's because people eat ice cream in the summer, they swim in the summer, basically.
I mean, yeah, correlation is not causation, but um Kennedy did not specify the research to which he was referring, but a 2015 study of out of Denmark that tracked nearly 343,000 Gen Z boys suggested that circumcised males were more likely to develop autism before the age of 10 compared to non-circumcised peers.
All right, listen, I have no idea what the relationship is there, but that's fascinating.
That should be studied.
I don't know why that wouldn't be studied.
unidentified
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
That's crazy.
Um I don't know why that wouldn't be further studied or why further questions couldn't be asked about that, or why it's so insane that we would have a public official invested ostensibly in ensuring that the public is healthy, bringing this up and asking this question about a widely uh practiced medical intervention in our country and the potential outcomes based on studies he's seen.
I don't I don't think that's so nuts.
I don't think that's so nuts.
phil labonte
Any other thoughts, any other thoughts on RFK's uh look, man, I I don't really have a whole lot of thoughts on this kind of stuff.
To be flat on honest with you.
I don't like when RFK is talking about like vaccines and stuff, I'm like, eh, okay, man.
nick sortor
Yeah, Tylenol released a statement saying that they disagree.
Uh they didn't elaborate, they just disagree with uh we disagree.
We disagree.
phil labonte
Of course you do.
nick sortor
Of course, you're trying to sell Tylenol.
This is really bad for marketing.
libby emmons
The thing that I thought was interesting is how many people have been coming at the HHS secretary for caring about what causes autism.
riley moore
Oh, I think that's a good thing.
libby emmons
Oh my gosh, that's just we still don't know.
And it's like there's a lot of kids running around with autism, and it's sort of bizarre.
Why?
Why are there so many?
Why is this such an increasing thing?
And so maybe he's getting the wrong answer.
Like perhaps circumcision is not a cause of autism.
But there must be some cause of autism.
And what is it?
riley moore
Well, yeah, and I think one of the good great things that Secretary Kennedy's been looking at is vaccines and the heavy metals that are in vaccines and if that if there's causation there in terms of increased cases of autism.
And he always makes this kind of anecdotal point, which is very true, though.
And it's he does are there any adults walking around that he knows that he's friendly with that have autism that are his age.
And no.
libby emmons
Right.
riley moore
You know, but now in today's day and age, it's much, much more common.
And he's just asking the very simple question of why is that?
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
riley moore
Why shouldn't we want to know that?
libby emmons
No, we should want to know.
seamus coughlin
You make a really good point, Libby, actually.
That's under disgust.
It's not like this is something that we know the cause of beyond a reasonable doubt, and he's just out here throwing these crazy theories at the wall.
That there has been an uptick, and people say it's because we're better at diagnosing it.
Some are not convinced by that argument because they feel that again there are more people in higher or there are more people in younger age groups that appear to have symptoms than older people.
Listen, all way beyond my pay grade.
I have no idea.
I just think that if we're allowed to say that men can get pregnant, it maybe we're allowed to ask some questions about what causes autism.
I you know, I don't think that's crazier.
I actually don't think it's more insane to ask questions about what's causing um a disorder or disability that we don't know the origin of.
I don't think that's super crazy.
phil labonte
Look, the the the situation with with the way people are reacting to RFK is as simple as they associate him with Trump.
It's the same thing that happened with Elon Musk.
libby emmons
He's a trader, so they really hate him.
phil labonte
Yeah, no, so but e like Elon Musk.
I'm not sure the traitor is necessary because they hate they hate they would hate anybody that Marco Rubio.
libby emmons
But they specifically hate the Democrats who have been red pilled.
I mean, I think I that's why they go so hard against Tulsi.
phil labonte
I don't disagree with you that they do I don't disagree with you, but I don't think that that's that's necessary for them to hate.
But you I mean, you look at the way that they treat Elon Musk.
Now, of course, Elon Musk for a time was a Democrat.
But the the Elon Musk was like the poster boy for like the green revolution.
He was making Teslas that were gonna they were gonna solve global warming.
And and then, you know, as soon as he started saying, hold on, like this this woke stuff is kind of crazy.
Like men can't become women and women can't become men.
Like your your biology is your biology.
libby emmons
Then they turned on him and got to the point where the Biden administration didn't even allow Tesla to have insane for the EVs, and they allowed all these crappy EVs to have it, and they wouldn't give Tesla the EV substitute.
riley moore
Yeah, they held this huge conference on EVs the Biden administration, and Tesla was the only company not invited to that.
phil labonte
Literally built the current infrastructure for electric cars.
I mean, I gotta I got a Tesla, and you can I can go, you know, I can go all the way from from here in West Virginia to my place in New Hampshire, and I will, you know, there's there's charging stations all along the way.
I mean, that's that and they're all Tesla charged charging stations.
libby emmons
That's a whole infrastructure.
But but to you, see them at the rest stops.
phil labonte
Yeah, there that's a whole infrastructure built by Tesla, still currently owned by Tesla, by the way, because like Musk owns all of that stuff.
He doesn't have it's not like he's got franchises that like where BP has, you know, someone actually owns the store and they just get gas and wear BP's colors.
Like he actually owns all that part of why he's worth 500 billion dollars now.
But like the idea that one company built this massive infrastructure that is actually going to this used by all electric cars now, like everybody can go to a supercharger.
libby emmons
Oh, is that right?
phil labonte
Well, if you have an adapter, yeah, they make adapters for for different cars, you know.
Yeah, like my Tesla.
My Tesla has an adapter that I that I bought with it, and I can use other uh other companies' chargers if they if I want, but most of the time, I mean they very rarely do you go to a place that doesn't have a Tesla charger.
libby emmons
Well, the the other companies' chargers usually are broken or they're not working for whatever reason.
phil labonte
But again, the guy built the infrastructure for this whole, you know, the green revolution.
He owns so a solar company that I again, my house has in New Hampshire has solar on it.
I'm looking into getting house batteries now.
Like all of this stuff is is because of Musk, and they turned him.
libby emmons
Tesla batteries?
No, I don't get there in New Hampshire.
phil labonte
I don't yet.
riley moore
But I to your point, as soon as he aligned himself with Trump, they started lighting Tesla's on fire.
seamus coughlin
Insane.
It just insane.
riley moore
They just started lighting torching dealerships, torching their own cars.
seamus coughlin
Immediately, you know, he likes to stop drinking a brand of beer, and they were like, this is economic terrorism.
They're like, you know what?
I prefer not to go to Target.
Like, hold on, calm down.
And then they start burning down Tesla shops, dude.
unidentified
Like, what is happening?
riley moore
Burning Teslas.
They try to pretend they liked Bud Light.
They never did.
seamus coughlin
No, of course.
People who drank it didn't like it.
unidentified
It was cheap.
Yeah.
Yeah.
libby emmons
Well, the other thing too is the you were guys are talking about the lighting the Tesla dealerships on fire and all of that stuff.
The um Center for Strategic and International Studies, which put out a study that has been widely cited as right wing violence is, you know, worse than left-wing violence.
That study on left-wing violence does not include attacks on Tesla dealerships and the vandalism against Teslas as left-wing violence.
It just doesn't include it in the study at all.
seamus coughlin
I don't know if this is the same study, but one of those studies basically says that literally anyone with any kind of white supremacist tattoo committing any kind of violent crime, including against another white person, is considered a hate crime.
So for example, if somebody went to prison and then they were affiliated with a gang, because listen, prison's not this nice place where you're able to live out your principles.
You know, there are ugly things people have to do to survive.
And it you join one of these gangs, you get one of these tattoos, which is associated with some skinhead gang.
You leave prison, you still have this tattoo.
You commit another violent crime.
Oh my gosh, this was like a neo-Nazi crime, even if it was uh a crime against another white guy or even a crime against another neo-Nazi.
phil labonte
Yeah.
nick sortor
The left always finds a way, always finds a way to try to spin it as oh, it's actually right wing violence.
It's like, oh yeah, they were torting uh Teslas, but Elon Musk's violent speech is what provoked it.
For this is actually right wing violence.
libby emmons
They also say that Islamic terrorism, they align a lot Islamic terrorism with right wing violence in this.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, total fellow travelers.
libby emmons
In America, the American left is marching in favor of Islamic terrorism.
nick sortor
Yeah.
They tried to say that Charlie Kirk's killer was right wing because his parents were uh were mad at you know right this guy that's loving all these.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, yeah.
Well, well, that's the other thing, right?
You can't infer from the fact that he was in that kind of a situation, as well as the fact that he wrote like catch fascist on the bullet and said that he couldn't negotiate with Charlie Kirk's hate.
Like you can't infer from that that he was left wing.
But literally anything any white person does is a hate crime against anyone else if the person who's a victim happens to not be white.
phil labonte
This just speaks to the to what we were discussing earlier, which is the left.
It doesn't matter what the truth is, it doesn't matter what reality is.
They will bend and warp whatever narrative they need because again, postmodernism is the philosophy of the day with the left.
After when people realize that socialism as an economic model didn't work in the 60s and 70s, the whole left was in a total train wreck, and they had to come up with some way to justify it.
And that postmodernism was right there.
It's like, oh hey, nothing matters, nothing's real.
Yeah, all you have to do is just use words as an as a means to exercise power, because if there is no truth, then no, you know, if there is not this truth, then no truth matters, and we can just shove you know whatever we want into whatever.
And now you end up with men thinking that if you chop off your penis, you're a woman.
riley moore
Right.
So there you say, I mean, there to your point, there's no objective truth.
There's nothing that we all can agree is true, everything is subjective based on an individual's interpretation.
If some person says I identify as a woman, now my truth has to be your truth.
You have to identify with the truth that I have come up with here.
So there's no just objective, like this is true.
phil labonte
Yeah.
And it's simple to understand that concept.
It's like, well, you know, if if you know, if you're hiding behind a desk and someone walks in and look or looks around and then walks out, well, to that guy, he didn't see you, so no one was in the room.
So to him, it's true that there was no one in the room, but you were still behind the desk.
Yeah, you know.
seamus coughlin
Or like to, you know, Bill Maher didn't see the genocide, so there was no genocide happening.
You know, that's my say it's my segue and x-ray.
It's actually it's actually it's something you know a lot about, so I'm glad to have you here because it's something I'm really not educated on.
I've been wanting to learn about, so I'm excited to ask you some questions.
Yeah, Bill Maher uh said that there, or no, I'm sorry, not Bill Maher.
My mistake, Al Jazeera was saying to Bill Maher.
My goodness, my apologies, Bill Maher.
I read that totally wrong.
Totally confused.
No Bill Maher.
There's no listen, I have more credibility than 99% of the media because when I realized I accidentally said something wrong, I immediately corrected myself.
And that's why you guys love Shimcast.
My apologies, man.
Um, so this is an author at Al Jazeera, which of course I'm a huge supporter of.
I love El Jazeira.
And they uh are telling uh Bill Maher there's no Christian genocide in Nigeria.
Now it happens to be the case that our guest knows a lot about this topic.
So please inform us.
riley moore
I do.
Uh Al Jazeera, otherwise known as Allah Akbar, uh great outlet there.
Um so it in any event, yes, so there's a Christian genocide going on in Nigeria, and I sent a letter here just recently, uh just a few days ago this week to Secretary of State Marco Rubio to designate Nigeria uh as a country of particular concern.
It's on my Twitter handle if you want to go look at it.
Uh why is that important?
If they're designated a country of particular concern, then they can no longer receive security assistance from the United States, which is a polite way of saying armed sales and training, which is currently underway right now with Nigeria.
Now, why are we doing that?
Because we want them to go out and fight Boko Haram.
So Boko Haram and also IS, West Africa.
Uh Boko Haram's more associated with like an Al Qaeda, IS, West Africa is more like ISIS.
And then you have a third group in there, the Fulani.
So I'll kind of go through all of these.
But Boko Ram is the prevalent one that's been around for a very long time, IS West Africa.
So the Muslim population of Nigeria mostly lives in the northern part of the country.
The southern part of the country is where most of the Christians live.
It's pretty close split 50-50.
Then there's that middle band of the country where that's most of the killings are taking place.
The Falani are ones that are that's an ethnic group, most of them farmers are the ones that are undertaking a lot of this indiscriminate killing.
But just to give you a couple of examples, it's been happening just this year alone.
There's been 7,000 Christians murdered.
That's 35 a day.
libby emmons
Oh my goodness.
riley moore
Uh, since 2009, 51,000 have been murdered.
And so these folks are obviously Christian martyrs, in my opinion, in my view, they've been martyred for their faith.
And it's a tragedy that's unfolding, and we're not doing anything about it.
Now, to go back to that designation, why is that designation not there?
President Trump put that designation on them, the country particular concern in his first term.
And by doing that, it put the squeeze on the Nigerian government, which is run by um a Muslim president and vice president right now.
It put the squeeze on them to try to quell the killings in that country, and it did start to lessen the uh the murders of Christians in Nigeria.
The Biden administration took that designation off.
unidentified
My goodness.
libby emmons
Wow.
riley moore
They took the designation off.
And so I am asking devout Catholic Libby.
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
Because he is a devout Catholic.
riley moore
Yeah.
Speaking as a devout Catholic, uh, I'd like to see that designation put back on.
And just to be clear, this Christian population, they're not just Catholics.
About a third is Catholic, third is Anglican, third is evangelical.
So that kind of spans the gamut there.
And this is this is a genocide that is happening there.
And the United States needs to do something to tighten the screws on Nigeria.
We have a lot of security assistance going on with them right now.
And there's room for us to be able to turn up the volume or uh turn up the heat on them, so to speak, and hopefully stop this.
It's just it's continuing, continuing to escalate.
They're kidnapping priests and murdering them.
There was one that was they've had 200 priests in the last few years that have been kidnapped.
They just had uh 54 people martyred on uh Palm Sunday, uh Ash Wednesday, they kidnapped and murdered a priest.
That's just this year Alone, and it's going to continue unless we do something.
And that's I'm urging Secretary of State Marco Rubio to redesignate them a country of particular concern.
So that's kind of the lay of the land of what's happening there.
No one seems to be talking about this.
seamus coughlin
Why not?
riley moore
I don't know.
And just to flash back to the 90s, and as some of us here remember it, Phil, uh is uh and myself.
We intervened in a conflict in the Balkans because a Muslim minority there was being persecuted and killed.
Now, look, I've been to Servanica.
That was a terrible thing that was happening there at that time.
I'm not saying we need to go stick boots on the ground and go intervene in this uh militarily, but there are a lot of things we can do to Nigeria to stop this from happening, and there's a lot of tools in the toolbox for the administration to stop it.
seamus coughlin
So why was this not the first thing that Trump did when he got back into office?
riley moore
Well, I mean, look, there was a lot of things President Trump has been trying to do uh and accomplishing, right?
The one big beautiful bill, all these other things, trying to focus on getting the American people uh what they voted for, which is to put the the uh put the American people first, put America first, put the American worker first, and the family first.
This is a huge issue.
I know it's important to uh Secretary Stirp Marco Rubio.
It's something he talked about when he was a senator.
Ted Cruz has uh also a letter in the U.S. Senate that is the same as my letter.
He had some other senators join him on that.
So we're hopeful this uh that we're gonna be able to ramp up the pressure in the House and the Senate on the administration to focus on this.
Obviously, they're very busy right now trying to negotiate this historic Middle East peace deal that they're dealing, uh that that was just first step of which was just signed.
Uh huge, huge deal.
Not taken away from that.
But we have tens of thousands of Christians just that have been killed in Nigeria since this this thing has been going on, and it's gotta stop.
No more.
And I look, we've got to stick up for our brothers and sisters in Christ in this.
And it's time for people to stand up, be loud and proud about their faith.
We're always looking out for all these other groups around the world.
This matters too.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, it absolutely matters.
And I'm embarrassed to say I don't know much about this.
It's not something I'm informed on.
That's why I'm glad that you're here to talk about this.
It's something I certainly want to look into more so that we can talk about this more because it's horrifying to think that this has been happening for years.
It's almost never an issue in the news.
Our government rarely talks about it.
I'm glad that in Trump's first term, he did something about it.
It's unsurprising to me that Joe Biden would undo that.
If we're trying to give him some kind of charitable interpretation or at least saying there was like an economic motivation and not just a sheer hatred for what's true, good, beautiful, and innocent.
Um, why would Joe Biden repeal this protection?
riley moore
I to be honest with you, I'm not sure why that happened.
Some of it is could be speculation here.
Um the Nigerian government is saying everything I'm saying is untrue, right?
Like this is false.
It's not a good idea.
seamus coughlin
But of course they would.
riley moore
And obviously, Al J Al Jazeera is over here running cover for them.
And the Democrats could care less about this.
seamus coughlin
When they were singing Kill the Boar, there was an Al Jazeera article talking about how like that wasn't.
I remember I read this one.
But there are a lot of articles talking about how like that wasn't genocidal rhetoric.
I mean, of course, these people are all carrying water for the radical left.
And this is something that comes up a lot because people will say, isn't it so strange that the left has this alliance with radical Islam?
Because, you know, Muslims don't approve of homosexuality and they don't like transgenderism and all the social projects that the left is pushing for are opposed to the values of Islam and the values of Muslims.
But we have to realize is this is not some unintentional quirk.
The reality is the left emerged on the world stage in the French Revolution with the express purpose of killing Christians.
And the only time the left has not done so has been when there were strong enough right-wing movements in the country to prevent it from happening.
The left was marginalized to a degree in the United States where they were not capable of carrying out their bloodlust against innocent people.
And for a very long time, they were still able to do so by slaughtering millions of completely defenseless, faultless, unborn children.
And so people ask, how can the left align themselves with Islam?
Because getting Christians killed is the project.
That's the whole point.
Those are their values.
unidentified
Yeah.
riley moore
Yeah.
And this is why I think they turned a blind eye to this thing.
And they just turned the security assistance back on for them.
Now, what they'll say is, well, there's non Christians being killed in this as well.
Sure.
Yeah.
Do terrorist groups kill other people?
Sure.
seamus coughlin
Of course.
riley moore
Sure they do.
Um, But there's a very targeted systematic effort that's happening over there in Nigeria.
It's very clear.
I don't think they're kidnapping and murdering priests and thinking that that guy is not a Catholic.
seamus coughlin
Yes, exactly.
riley moore
I mean, it's very clear they're wearing a collar, right?
libby emmons
Um, so New York Times doesn't appear to have covered anything about that.
riley moore
No, no.
libby emmons
No, no, nobody's nobody nobody is.
That's when they covered it in 2010.
riley moore
Yeah, nobody's covering this.
Uh I was fortunate enough to be able to speak about it actually on Fox News, Fox Business News, uh, Maria Barterromo gave me uh platform me there a little bit and let me speak about it, which put like the Nigerians over the edge.
They're like, it's on Fox.
Uh you know, they're all talking about it.
And Fox, to their credit, has been speaking about it a little bit.
But you know, this is why platforms like this are so important.
I mean, we're talking about you know the disinformation of the left and all this other stuff that goes on in this country.
Can you imagine if like a podcast like this didn't exist, if if platforms like this didn't exist, if you know post-millennial, all these all these things that have come up, we'd still be living in New York Times world.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
libby emmons
Yeah, we still wouldn't we still we we wouldn't know that there were so many of us who were eager for truth.
seamus coughlin
Yes in the New York Times with Walter Durante's reporting was telling us that the Holomore was no big deal when that was happening.
They have a track record of ensuring that this kind of information does not get to the public.
libby emmons
But that's still the it's still the paper of record.
seamus coughlin
Exactly.
And that's why I think he got a polit cert and it was never it was never revoked.
libby emmons
Yeah, that's crazy.
seamus coughlin
That's insane.
riley moore
Yeah, I mean, the end of the day, Christianity is growing like wildfire in Africa.
And as a Catholic, I can say these people are they are on fire for their faith.
A lot of a lot of Catholics now.
Uh it's it's where the church is growing the most, is actually in Africa, the Catholic Church.
And the interesting thing is obviously the West had gone and evangelized in Africa.
I think we're gonna be in a space here in the future where the Africans are going to start evangelizing in the West.
seamus coughlin
I agree with you.
I think that's absolutely gonna happen.
You know, they say history doesn't repeat itself, it rhymes.
Something similar happened.
Do you know during the dark ages because Ireland had been so thoroughly evangelized and it was so far away from the rest of Europe?
I mean, it's a little island.
You had monks there basically copying over the Western lexicon and how the Irish saved history.
Exactly.
No, it's true.
It's true.
And then they copied down like the Western lexicon.
They basically were able to save all of this information.
I foresee Africa doing that.
If we don't turn our countries around in the West, it is going to be the case that our civilization is going to be preserved by African Catholics.
libby emmons
Well, Africa, also, though Ethiopia is uh one of the first places where Christianity took root.
riley moore
Exactly.
libby emmons
You know, I mean they had Africa wasn't colonized into Christianity.
They had Christianity before Europe.
riley moore
Exactly.
Christianity has been in Africa before it was in Europe.
seamus coughlin
Yep.
Yep.
riley moore
Predates it by um by a mile.
libby emmons
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
Man, well, listen, it's an important topic.
Is there anything else you want to say about it before we move on?
riley moore
No, uh, I would just anybody listening, please encourage your members of Congress to send either similar letters, contact my office, please push on this issue.
It is critically important.
Uh these are good people that are being slaughtered right now just for their faith, and it it's a tragedy.
So please reach out to your members, push on them to also urge the administration to help these folks.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, and and of course, if you can say some prayers for them, say a rosary for the intention.
riley moore
Yes, yes, please pray.
seamus coughlin
Nigeria, please, please, please.
riley moore
Certainly believe in the power of prayer, and yes, pray.
Please pray.
I know the left uh laughs at us uh when we talk about that, but it is very serious.
seamus coughlin
And you know what?
They know it's serious, and that's why they put people in prison in places like Australia for praying or in Europe, Scotland.
They'll throw people in prison.
Yeah, exactly.
They will throw people in prison for praying.
Or that pro-they know they actually know that it works.
Um man, it's gonna be hard transition.
libby emmons
That's why they laugh.
That's what they laugh because it works.
And they're eager to make it look foolish, but it isn't foolish.
seamus coughlin
It terrifies them.
libby emmons
And after Charlie was killed, and everybody went out and started praying.
There were no riots.
Everyone just got together and literally prayed.
seamus coughlin
And there there was immense power in prayer.
riley moore
I think the sad part though is when they killed those kids, which makes me think of my own kids at that Catholic school in uh Minneapolis, and the mayor came out and basically just mocked the idea of praying.
libby emmons
What a garbage person, Jacob Frey is just terrible.
seamus coughlin
It's actually disgusting.
I mean, that also it just shows you what a horrible position we're in as a country that that did not completely end his political career.
riley moore
No, yeah, he'll he'll win again.
seamus coughlin
I mean, how how how can you even show your face in public ever again after saying so?
riley moore
Oh, because he's got the Somali vote locked up up there.
unidentified
Yeah.
riley moore
So he doesn't really have to worry about it.
seamus coughlin
Man.
riley moore
He's got he's got the Al Shabaab vote.
unidentified
So man.
seamus coughlin
Well, uh, in other news, the uh No King's Day protests, another round of them are um planned across nation to oppose Trump administration.
Here's what I have to say about the No Kings protests.
We saw them happen before, and a lot of people were making fun of these protesters.
They're saying these protesters are so old, and it's like, listen, you have to understand they were there when we beat King George, so it's important to them.
We don't see monarchy in the United States again.
Um, of course, look at this.
All right, this is something I learned as a child.
I had a wonderful lesson in media optics when I was probably 10 years old.
We were praying outside of Christ Hospital in Chicago because they were performing abortions at a hospital called Christ Hospital.
Shameful.
And it's disgusting.
And we were there, there were a lot of young families, and a news crew came up.
And of course, me being a 10-year-old, I'm like, oh, news, I want to be on TV.
And my dad said, they're only gonna talk to old people.
That's all what do they do?
They talk to one old couple there.
I said, Dad, why do they do it?
They said they want people to think that pro-life protesters are all like old church people.
They don't want you to know young people believe this, they don't want you to know young families believe this.
It is very important to the media, it is very important to the left-wing press that their cause is depicted as young, energetic people who care about the issues, and your protest is a bunch of old fuddy dutties.
It's kind of like the I already drew you as the soy jack meme.
It's like I already took a picture of an old person at your protest.
You're done.
But for these no king protests, they couldn't even find a picture exclusively populated with young people.
Notice that they couldn't even find one.
Because believe me, if they could, that would be the picture that we saw here.
This is a protest for old people who are out of touch.
They can't even hide it.
They would love to.
So um, you know, if you didn't think the antics were old enough already, a series of No King's Day demonstrations are set to take place nationwide on Saturday, October 18th.
The protest I just want to mention, I don't know if you guys know this, in Canada, they actually couldn't call it No Kings.
unidentified
Right, because they have a kingdom.
seamus coughlin
That was super funny.
libby emmons
So funny.
seamus coughlin
It's like in pulp fiction where they're like, do you know what they call uh quarter pounder in Europe?
It's like, you know what they call the no kings protest in Canada?
phil labonte
Yeah, um what do they call it in Canada?
seamus coughlin
I don't even know what they called it in Canada.
There was like no tyrants or something like that, yeah.
I think it might have been um the protests are organized as a response.
libby emmons
And no tyrants.
seamus coughlin
Is that what they said?
Yeah, no, no.
Of course.
Of course.
Uh the protests are organized as a response, so what activists describe as the Trump administration's increasingly authoritarian tactics.
On October 18th, millions of us are rising again to show the world America has no kings and no actually Jesus is our king.
Um, uh so take that.
And the power belongs to the people, no king.
I mean, unfortunately, our country doesn't recognize that, which is sad, but we should.
riley moore
We should be a Poland just declared that.
seamus coughlin
That was amazing.
Dude, Poland is always up to something good.
Poland's always something up to something always up to something good.
So I I just want to talk a little bit about this protest.
Um they they what they did here.
So this is this is no thrones, no crowns, no kings, and then down here they have a diagram of all the nursing homes in the United States.
So if you click if you have that annoying MSNBC great aunt, like just put her in one of these places and got a lot of big time.
Um I think that her Birkenstocks.
There was also another article I saw about this where they were talking about tying this specifically into like reproductive freedom, which of course, as we all know, is Orwellian news speak for murdering babies.
The whole thing's vicious, the whole thing's disgusting, the whole thing's terrible.
I'm interested in hearing your thoughts on it.
riley moore
So this will be interesting for the audience.
This date of October 18th is very interesting because obviously I get asked.
When is the shutdown going to end?
I don't think they're going to end it before this happens.
I don't think they're going to, I don't think the Democrats are going to fold.
seamus coughlin
Then who's paying for it?
riley moore
Uh well, I I'm just telling you, these folks, they're not going to do that.
Now, the 15th is certainly a triggering day because that is when our men and women in the armed forces need to get paid again.
And I think unfortunately, there is perhaps going to be a lapse.
nick sortor
They just sent the Senate home a few minutes ago.
riley moore
So there's going to be a lapse in payment for our troops.
And if somebody out there is thinking, well, Riley, why don't you do something about it?
The House did.
We voted for pay for our troops.
We voted for all of that.
We voted to fund the government and we passed it out of the House.
It sits over in the Senate where you've had almost every Republican vote for two Democrats and an independent who also caucuses with the Democrats is bipartisan support to reopen the government.
You need 60 votes to get cloture, which means end debate and then actually vote on the bill.
But I don't think they're going to capitulate uh before this, but we're all being held hostage because one guy, Chuck Schumer, is scared to death of AOC and the potential of her primary him.
And so I have called for several times, and I'll say it again.
He needs to step aside and let somebody else lead because leaders are supposed to lead and take hard votes.
They're not supposed to just hold the country hostage so you can win re-election.
seamus coughlin
Amen.
phil labonte
Do you think it's likely that uh AOC will primary in next year?
riley moore
I do.
I do.
Uh she'll have the resources.
She raises at least $10 million a quarter, if not more.
phil labonte
Um so this is something that we were talking about a little bit earlier, and you can actually speak to this, Riley.
Um I personally think that AOC is the most dangerous Democrat in basically in Washington because she has such an ability to communicate with people.
And the chat's gonna freak out right now because I'm saying this because they don't like to hear things that are true.
But she is incredibly charismatic and she can relate to people, and she can, like you said yourself, she can raise tons of money.
It's my my thought that she if she decides to primary Schumer, she'll win pretty easily.
Schumer's old.
He doesn't have a lot of people that that back him nowadays.
There is a what is it?
There's basically a civil war going on in the Democrat Party.
riley moore
There is.
phil labonte
Is it the is it the old school Democrats, or is it the far left Democrats that are coming in, the young people like AOC, like the squad, um and Mom Donnie?
I think yeah, yeah.
Mom Donny, even though he's even though I'm thinking I'm I'm speaking only to Washington, that's a great point.
Um, Mom Donnie, that type of of you know, basically it's it's socialists, and and this isn't like hyperbole.
riley moore
These people No, they self-identify.
phil labonte
Well, they so they caucus with the DSA and stuff like that.
So and if if that is going to be, you know, if AOC does win and she is the you know the leader of the Senate, like the far left has won the Democrat Party, then that means that there is no more war.
riley moore
If she if she the basically the the ultimate the confrontation is gonna be Schumer versus AOC, this is their, you know, how we had our fight with the establishment within the Republican Party.
This is what's going on over there.
The Mondami one, though, is a good example though, as well, because Cuomo is your establishment guy that they're just trying to jam in there a Clinton guy, right?
Like that old machine that they're trying to churn back up again.
Schumer is the same thing.
The thing about Mondami or AOC is a better example, like Phil's talking about.
She's outside of the machine.
She has her own machine.
She does not need the Democrat machine and that old machinery to go out there and win.
She has a following.
She is probably, in my view, the most dangerous Democrat in either chamber right now.
phil labonte
100%.
riley moore
And at some point, she is going to run for president.
phil labonte
The more yeah, not just the most demo dangerous Democrat in in either chamber.
She's the most dangerous Democrat in America.
riley moore
Yes.
phil labonte
Because she can not only take Congress people don't generally win the White House, right?
She's not going to go from Congress to the White House.
She's going to go for the Senate, and then after she serves, and possibly only two years.
Look at how long Barack Obama was in the Senate before he ran into.
riley moore
And two years is perfect because you don't have it, you don't have a record.
phil labonte
Yeah.
And she's she's got she has just as much charisma as Barack Obama did.
And that's honestly, that is all you need.
You don't have to have great policy because legitimately the president is the person that signs off on bills.
Sure, the president has the bully pulpit, but Congress actually writes the laws if they decide to write the laws.
She can she could do a bunch of executive orders, but her the fact that you came in here talking about how much money she can raise, how I mean you've walked by her in the halls of Congress.
riley moore
Yeah.
I mean, she looked she engages with folks all over the place.
And you can see her, she's an operator.
I know we all make fun of her, like she's a goofball, whatever.
She is a serious threat.
She's a real politician who has unfortunately some serious capabilities that are really scary to be honest with you.
nick sortor
Every time you ask, every time you see her on TV or answering a question, she makes a fool out of herself.
I mean, I don't know who you're talking about, who she's relating to.
I mean, maybe you're talking about uh uh relatively speaking, in terms of Democrats who everything that they do is coordinated and not even coordinated very well.
It's uh I I go back to looking at that.
Uh do you remember?
I don't remember exactly what it was, but it was there were like 40 something members of the house on the Democrat side that were given a script and an exact way of doing they're all holding holding the microphone in the same position, all synced up, and she didn't participate in that.
I don't I don't believe.
But I I I mean, is that what you mean by relate to the Bernie voters?
unidentified
All the people that love Bernie, oh yeah, all right.
libby emmons
She's been on that whole tour, and a lot of the way that she's relatable is literally on TikTok and Instagram and all of this.
Because she will do I follow her on Instagram because I you know, I want to catch a story before somebody else does.
But she will go on these platforms and she will just talk to people, she will sit there, she will like you know, cook while she's talking, she'll have a glass of wine, she'll be there.
Was the famous one where she was drinking wine and putting together her IKEA furniture, you know.
I mean, that's hugely relatable, and it certainly was at the end.
riley moore
So let me give you a huge example though, here, just real quick.
She stood in front of that U.S. Capitol and talked about the Green New Deal, and we just laughed at her.
That's a law.
phil labonte
Yeah.
riley moore
The inflation reduction act is a law.
libby emmons
Yeah, she can't.
riley moore
And we said, no, she's not driving policy for the dead.
phil labonte
She's she is she's the most she like people don't want to admit it.
I think she's the most powerful Democrat in Washington right now, even though she doesn't hold a position of leadership.
If she decides something and wants to push something, she will get enough people on her side where it will actually happen.
You're just like you said, the inflation reduction act was just the Green New Deal.
It was it was comedy gold when you first heard about it.
Well, just like you said, it is law right now.
I mean, there are people that think that I'm ridiculous.
I'm telling you, she is the most dangerous person in Washington, DC.
And it's not just dangerous to Republicans, it's dangerous to the country because her policies are absolutely terrible.
libby emmons
Well, this is what's going on with Democrats, right?
They have no leadership.
You saw President Trump just the other day talking about you know the Democrats, they come to me and I don't even know their names.
They have no leaders, it's like Somalia, he said.
Um, and I think that everyone knows AOC's name, right?
I mean, if AOC goes to the president, he's gonna know exactly who that is, and everyone in America knows who that is.
Everyone in America knows her by her nicknames.
She's had a lot of slings and arrows at her, and she's still come out on top.
And she was the first one, right?
She was the first one, she was like the leader of the squad.
She was the first one to really start pushing the Democratic Party away from the old machine that you know runs Chicago, Boston, used to run New York until this mom Donnie fellow comes in.
Yep, she was the one who really started pushing the party far left.
And now people are afraid of her, and people are also afraid of you know the people who are coming up behind her.
That's why Hakeem Jeffries has neither endorsed nor not endorsed mom Donnie.
That's why you saw Kathy Hokel bend the knee to mom Donnie, and then you know what?
He did not endorse her back, and that's what she was really banking on.
And he doesn't have to, because he has AOC in his corner and he has all of this stuff.
So the Democrat Party is going to move further to the left, they're going to continue to advocate for you know, uh leftist violence, they're gonna continue to pretend Antifa isn't part of what they are while encouraging them with their rhetoric to go out and cause mayhem.
And this is what we're gonna be facing.
I mean, we're gonna be looking in 2028 at MAGA versus the far left.
And it's really just going to be a question of what the American people are going to believe is going to do right by them and their kids.
phil labonte
And if if the republic if the current Republicans aren't successful, if MAGA quote unquote isn't successful, the people that come after MAGA are gonna be your Nick Fuentes's.
They're gonna be the people like that, that far like they think that Donald Trump, the the the you know, middle of the road people and the left think that Donald Trump is is far right.
They have not seen far right.
We have not had an actual far right party in this country that that would be even looked at for probably 40, 50 years.
libby emmons
But who would who would support something like that?
I mean, MAGA is not far right, right?
We're like pro America, we're pro Zoomerwaffin.
Zoomerwaffe.
phil labonte
I'm not kidding around.
Listen, you can laugh, but remember we were all laughing about AOC.
unidentified
Uh seven years ago.
libby emmons
My son is a Gen Z conservative right now, and he's very far from Zoomerwaffe.
phil labonte
I'm not saying that your son is.
libby emmons
No, I know, but his crew, like that's not their jam.
phil labonte
Look, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, it all it takes is is an is an economic problem, right?
Because yeah, dude, you're totally right about that.
The economic issue, and we've been going pretty well in this country economically, except for the uh the um except for COVID.
We've had 15 years of really solid economic growth.
Right now, there's a massive amount of people that are starting to default on their credit cards.
There's probably a bubble in the in the uh um in both the housing and in on the stock market.
The stock market is hitting all new in all time highs every couple days.
unidentified
It like there's made there's a massive like it could just get wiped out.
phil labonte
It absolutely could.
These are bubbles because we printed so much money in the past 15 years since 2008, they've been printing money and printing money and printing money.
This is all gonna pop at some point.
And if Republicans are in the White House or in control, the Republicans are gonna get blamed.
And that means the repu the MAGA Republicans are gonna get blamed.
The socialists are gonna actually get into power.
And the response to the socialists, Zumerwaffen, not kidding.
riley moore
Zoomerwaffe.
phil labonte
This is not something, and this is not me.
seamus coughlin
No, dude, I think you're coming I think I no, I think you're totally right.
I think you're completely right.
I think you're totally right.
I it's hard to argue against any of that, actually.
riley moore
But with AOC, think about this is if you are a House Democrat, say you're in a D plus 20.
Would you rather have Chuck Schumer's endorsement or AOC?
phil labonte
AOC in a hundred heartbeat.
riley moore
10 out of 10.
100%, right?
And that's on our side, right?
It's you know, would I rather have Thune or Trump?
You want Trump, of course, right?
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
riley moore
All the she is out there building her own coalition, her own members.
It's she's aligned with the DSA, like, yeah, she's you know, I I love that where it's like, oh, I'm not a socialist, I'm a democratic socialist.
libby emmons
Like No, that's it's just an injective for your social media.
phil labonte
DSA tweets how they follow the sci the the uh what what was the phrasing they used?
The the immortal science of Marxism.
Like that is an actual tweet from the Brooklyn DSA.
So like this is this is not like I this is not just the talk of civil war, right?
This is talk of like repeating the first half of the 20th century.
Well, all that stuff's on the table.
seamus coughlin
Well, it's also like, you know, every single conservative is a fascist, but like lefties who call themselves socialists aren't socialists.
It's a different kind of socialism.
Like, well, I'm not a fascist, I'm a democratic fascist.
It's a little different.
You know, it's not exactly the same thing.
phil labonte
Sorry to be such a downer, guys, but this is really this is the big thing that I'm scared of, you know.
seamus coughlin
And I know I I know I plug this a lot, and I I I always want to evangelize, but the reality is that's also why I think it's part important to have a robust Catholic political movement in your country, because those are gonna be the people who counter the far left, other than the zoomer waffin.
It's really gonna be between the Catholics and the Zoomer Waffin on the right.
That's those are gonna be your options.
Um, we need a robust strong Catholic movement so that when the radical left becomes ascendant and when the far left, like the coalition that Phil is talking about, end up taking channels of power if they do that there is a good, thoroughly right wing position that is not insane and barbaric, and that is the Catholic position.
So the oh, go ahead, Libby.
phil labonte
Remember though, uh Fuentes is Catholic.
seamus coughlin
So well, a lot, yeah.
libby emmons
Just rip him the capital.
seamus coughlin
There's a di but there's there's there's a lot of conversations they have about like a specifically Catholic political movement for sure.
libby emmons
I think that it's I think one thing that is important in terms of bringing Christianity back to the fore is that um for years this was primarily a Christian nation and our values and traditions and cultural norms and civil norms were based on Christian values, you know, how you treated people in public and all of that, and then basically atheism took over, and after a couple generations, people are raising their children atheist and eradicating Christianity from public life.
And the problem with that is the peaceful atheist society that we had was actually based in Christian values, they just didn't name them.
But now that it's been several generations, it's been a couple of generations anyway, those atheist sort of norms are no longer based in Christianity at all because it's been eradicated from public life so strongly.
And it's been interesting to see this sort of like nouveau revival movement.
And I don't know about you guys, but when I was a kid when I was in I guess middle school, probably like we learned about revival movements in the United States that were like in the late 1800s or whatever, and or maybe 18, whatever, I don't know, around there.
Who knows?
Somewhere.
Um, but we learned about these revival movements, and our teachers basically told us that they were snake oil salesmen and that they were all, you know, stuff and nonsense, and that it was people just getting fooled by everything.
And I'm looking back on it and I'm like, no, I think probably America needs a good revival movement every generation or so.
riley moore
Well, and the founders knew that, right?
So uh I know we all know this quote, but John Adams, right?
Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people.
It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.
And you know, I look at West Virginia and the great things we've been able to do.
We have outlawed abortion.
Our you know, we there's different weeks out there.
We are zero weeks in West Virginia.
We are the only state that came in and passed a law that says zero weeks post-Dobs.
How did we do that?
It was you it was a coalition of evangelicals, Southern Baptists, and Catholics all coming together and pushing on this pro-life issue that's so important to me.
And I'm just so proud of our state to be able to do that.
But I think that type of coalition effort, you go back to the old conservative movement, the fusionist movement, right?
Where you had you had your war hawks, anti-communists, libertarians, and social conservatives all coming together to defeat communism, right?
I think the the coalition is gonna look different, and it's gonna look more like what we were able to do here in West Virginia in terms of our um Christian coalition we put together to pass that law and make West Virginia uh easily one of the most pro-life states in America.
seamus coughlin
Amen.
libby emmons
And I just want to make a constitutional a state constitutional amendment saying no euthanasia ever.
riley moore
We did.
We put that in our state constitution.
I worked on that referendum and we put it into our state constitution.
seamus coughlin
Well, that's why I just want to flag this.
I know I talk about Catholicism and a Catholic political movement.
I want to evangelize, but obviously, like in in the foxhole of politics when we're fighting that battle.
Yes, we have many Protestant allies, they're fantastic.
I also think that young evangelicals and young Protestants are way more conservative in their beliefs than older generations are.
Um that's certainly a good thing to see.
You love to see people move closer to the truth in that way.
So yeah, even though I don't fully agree with them, I think it is really important to work with them.
And I think especially on the abortion movement, they've been great allies.
riley moore
Oh, absolutely.
seamus coughlin
Or I should say on the anti-abortion movement.
riley moore
Yes, anti-abortion movement.
unidentified
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
Any other thoughts before we move to super chats?
phil labonte
Let's go.
unidentified
Go for it.
seamus coughlin
All right, let's go over to super chats.
Shane H. Wilder said the return of Shimcast, IRL, hosted by a man who has never spolen stolen a spoon.
Thank you, Seamus.
I really appreciate that.
He actually said hosted by hosted by everyone's favorite spoon thief, but that was um not morally accurate.
unidentified
Um let's scroll.
Um sorry, I'm just trying to it's all right.
phil labonte
Um you can make it bigger if you want.
seamus coughlin
Okay.
Topo Enterprise for $10 said that C.S. Lewis says that we try to justify our hypocrisy because we can't bear the thought that we've done wrong.
Notice that the left doesn't try to justify the actions when they pull a total 180.
phil labonte
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
What do you guys think of that?
phil labonte
I mean, like I said, you know, we we talk about it a lot.
The left doesn't have they're not hypocrites because for them to be hypocrites, they would actually have to believe one way or the other.
riley moore
Yeah, you can't contradict values you never held.
phil labonte
Exactly.
seamus coughlin
Is that pe people who don't believe in anything love to accuse everyone else of being hypocrites?
It's like constant.
phil labonte
But again, that's not that they believe you're a hypocrite.
It's just about power.
It's about if if I can say this and make this person believe, and then I win the argument, and not even make the person believe, make the people watching believe.
Then I win the argument, and that's all that matters.
riley moore
Wheeled power.
phil labonte
Yep.
unidentified
Hmm.
seamus coughlin
Is this the one you're pointing me to?
unidentified
Uh let's go this way.
seamus coughlin
Okay.
Um Gimbal on Do sent five dollars and said going to talk about the riots in New York streets of terrorists calling for intifada.
Um did you guys hear about this?
I haven't followed the story.
libby emmons
That was messed up.
Yeah, it was very messed up.
You had a Harvard graduate wandering around outside of uh Fox News building saying that uh they had to encouraging protesters to chant along with him about going harder and uh no going stronger um than they did on the first October 7th.
unidentified
Wow.
libby emmons
And the protest was called Flood, like Flood New York, and of course the Hamas Massacre was called Alaksa Flood.
So in what reality are they not calling for a massacre in New York City?
seamus coughlin
Well, and so it's also sounds like we've already flooded New York with uh people from other cultures that aren't compatible with ours.
libby emmons
Yeah, this was a Harvard grad student, and then you also had everybody's favorite Columbia grad, Mahmoud Khalil up at Columbia University complaining more about how there's not enough jihad or something.
nick sortor
Why can't we deport this guy again?
libby emmons
I have no idea.
riley moore
Yeah.
libby emmons
I mean, uh in part because he has extremely powerful lawyers who are funded by deep pocket not-for-profits.
nick sortor
He's not a US citizen.
libby emmons
No, he's got a green card.
nick sortor
I don't care what he's got.
libby emmons
I agree with you.
seamus coughlin
And that's what this is telling you.
Again, I mean, this stuff is so nuts to me because regardless of whether you fall on like the Israel-Palestine issue, the idea of calling for another October 7th is insane and disgusting.
libby emmons
It's just and calling for it in New York.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, I and call like it.
We get accused of incitement to violence for like every single thing we say.
If you won't call a man and address a woman, you're accused of inciting violence against them.
libby emmons
I mean, like the Portland police called Katie a counter-protester.
riley moore
Yeah.
libby emmons
Like, have you not no, she's been publishing work on this every single day since June.
nick sortor
Yeah, that's I have a lot to say about that, those people, but I I could take all night to that.
phil labonte
Go right ahead.
Yeah, that's they deserve it.
They deserve to be excoriated.
It's ridiculous that we have to put up with this.
You know, the the government, the law enforcement is supposed to, you know, uphold the law, not attack journalists or or whatever that are there covering stories.
libby emmons
Yeah.
phil labonte
Ridiculous.
libby emmons
It is ridiculous.
seamus coughlin
Um Buck Bolt 93 says, don't know if you guys saw, but Pam Bondi's DOJ is ordering to a gun foundation and gun policy hand over a list of their members.
phil labonte
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
What happened to Trump being more 2A?
Gun owners won't show in 2026.
What is that about?
libby emmons
Is that the Salt Lake thing?
riley moore
I hadn't heard that.
phil labonte
Yeah, I'm not sure the details I heard about it.
Um, that there was a a decision they want a list of of I don't know what the what the gun group they're referring to, but she asked for a list of of members.
seamus coughlin
Was it like John Brown gun club or something?
phil labonte
No, I can see that.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, like that one would make sense to me.
libby emmons
There was also a uh there was also that group in Seattle where the the um there were like people out at a protest, a bunch of leftists and the leftists, leftist guards of the protest shot an unarmed civilian.
phil labonte
Shockwuts.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, they thought they were aiming for somebody else and they missed Bondi DOJ denies universal relief and requests gun rights group private membership.
What was the gun rights group?
That's what I'm curious about.
Because if this is like the John Brown gun club, that is not the same thing.
That's not the same thing.
But if it is, if it's like a legitimate guns rights organization, then that's not good.
That's seriously not good, and I'll call it out as not good.
I just want more information because I feel like we just get a lot of information That isn't complete with these stories, and then people run with it.
It's like I want to know.
libby emmons
There was some concern that the partner of the uh suspected Charlie Kirk assassin is part of a like queers gun root gun group thing.
So I wonder if it's part of that.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, that's what I'm that's why I mentioned the John Brown gun club, like these these more left-wing organizations are like radical leftist organizations.
libby emmons
Or like the pink, I think it's called like Pink Pony Gun Club, and it's specifically for trans persons to practice um how to use their weapons so that they can fight against uh anti-trans legislation.
seamus coughlin
That's insane.
I mean, it's literally just calling for violent insurrection.
libby emmons
Yes, that's what they're doing.
riley moore
Fighting against legislation with guns.
phil labonte
So no, it's it's it's terrible.
Apparently, according to Groc, firearms, uh, FPC, Second Amendment Foundation, and Louisiana Shooting Association in the lawsuit, Reese versus Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosive, challenging Louisiana's ban on handgun perpet purchases for adults under 21.
The U.S. Department of Justice under Attorney General Pam Bondi filed a brief requesting a verified list of members from these three gunright groups who were enrolled as of November 6, 2020.
The goal is to limit court relief to only the individual plaintiffs and verified organizational members rather than all affected gun owners.
On October 7th, 2025, a federal judge in the Western District of Louisiana ordered the groups to provide the list within 21 days, but the second amendment foundation has refused, calling it an unconstitutional demand for a gun owner registry and explore and is exploring appeals.
seamus coughlin
I'm a member of FPC right now, so it's so it based on your research, it sounds like they're just going after some regular gun club.
phil labonte
Yeah, if Wolf FPC is one of the biggest uh gun rights organizations.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, that's unacceptable.
I don't know why they would be doing that.
phil labonte
Second, I don't know why she would be doing that.
nick sortor
That's really the FPC said they're just not gonna comply.
So that's good.
I respect that.
Yeah, never never provided a list of it's of our members to the government, never will.
So okay, good.
phil labonte
Part of the part of the situation, the part this part where it says the goal is to limit court relief to only the individual plaintiffs and verified organizational members rather than all affected gun owners.
I'm not sure the details in this particular one, but there was uh uh an N a finding about pistol braces, which has already been has been since been settled, but it there was uh uh uh injunction that was passed preventing the government when Joe Biden uh was present when the when the in the Biden administration um saying that they that everyone that was a member of any of any of the three other groups that were appealing the decision.
Uh if you had a pistol brace, you were covered.
And that's exactly why I'm you know a member of FPC.
Um I don't know what the details are, um, but it seems like they're trying to make sure that it's only people that are that are affiliated with these uh with FPC, Second Amendment Foundation and Louisiana Shooting Association, um, that are covered by the law.
Um it's a good flag though.
riley moore
I'm I'm gonna take a look at it.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean Louisiana has a ban on hand but handgun purchases for adults under 21.
I thought that the Supreme Court already ruled on that that if you're under 21, your your second amendment rights are protected.
If you're 18, you can own a handgun.
And I I I thought they they decided that, but I obviously I'm or I'm I could be wrong, you know.
riley moore
But take a look.
phil labonte
So we'll we'll we'll look into that or Riley, Congressman.
seamus coughlin
Um Philosopher King sort of Oh, sorry.
unidentified
Sorry about that.
seamus coughlin
Philosopher King sort of said the wife is an active labor with our first child.
She'll she will be raised to respect God and hate critical theory.
Psalm 139, 19 through 24.
God bless you.
phil labonte
Good for you.
seamus coughlin
Congratulations.
riley moore
Congratulations.
seamus coughlin
We're very happy for you.
phil labonte
We love to hear it.
seamus coughlin
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Um, let's see some other chats here.
Um I this is interesting.
Pineapple water, Iran in the 70s, socialism, Marxism, leftists with Islamists together until Islamists eradicated the left for 45 years.
IRGC Islamists still in power.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
phil labonte
It's true.
The The left that thinks the left is is so anti-America and anti-Western.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
They'll align with anyone that's against America and Western values.
But if they align with the with the Islamists, the Islamists are they're not shy in case in case they aren't in case they don't remember what Syria was like, or in case you don't remember what it was like after 9-11, uh, there was a lot of videos on the internet of heads being cut off and and the like people being burned alive in cages, cages submerged in pools so that people could drown.
They they will not will not tolerate the left.
They will align with them and help them win, and then when the le when when the Islamists and left win, the Islamists will then look to the left and they will start cutting heads off.
libby emmons
Well, and a reformed uh a son who is uh a man who is a son of one of the Hamas leaders and who left that whole organization said that the left in the United States are just useful idiots.
phil labonte
Yeah.
libby emmons
And Hamas is using them.
riley moore
No true state.
libby emmons
Obviously, they are, yeah.
riley moore
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
They can't help themselves.
They're they they because again, they don't believe that anyone actually believes anything.
riley moore
No.
phil labonte
They they can't, they don't have a theory of mind that other cultures are different and and believe differently.
Like committed Islamists are committed Islamists.
They really believe what they say.
It's not just talk, it's not at all just uh, it's not a pose at all.
You look at, I forget who it was, but they're the the UAE and they talk about how they got rid of the Muslim Brotherhood.
Like, and they talk about how foolish the West is for allowing people that agree with the Muslim Brotherhood.
They're like, they're literally say things you can you can just Google it on YouTube and you'll see, you know, people that are are in in the UAE government, they're like, you people are fools.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
phil labonte
Why we as Muslims, as Arab Muslims, we don't have these problems because we don't tolerate it.
You people are completely foolish to allow these people into your country and to behave the way they do.
The reason they don't do that in our countries is because we don't let them.
And like people that think that the the Middle East and people in the Middle East are just like Westerners, and this is something that Barack Obama said too, and it was a terrible, terrible thing that he did.
He said, Look, these people that are in the Middle East, and this is when the Syrian civil war is going on, they're they just need jobs.
This is economic.
unidentified
Right.
riley moore
It's economics.
seamus coughlin
You see someone like this, you see someone killing civilians, and you go, get a job.
unidentified
Because these people, that that's not why they're dealing with it.
phil labonte
People are naive.
They think that everyone else thinks like Westerners.
Cultures are different.
If you if you're talking about cultures where it is acceptable to kill homosexuals because they're homosexual, or to to cut people's heads, cut people's hands off because they're thieves, right?
Like whether or not you believe that actually is cruel and unusual, the point that I'm making is these these people see the world very differently to the left.
And the left are allowing them to infiltrate their ranks, and if the left wins and and actually wins the culture war, they're gonna lose against the Islamists.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, but then it's worth it to them because they just want Christians to die in their hearts.
riley moore
No, and the left is just useful idiots.
Yeah, the left because they're malleable.
seamus coughlin
I'm not saying every individual leftist wants that, but I'm saying like that is how leftism operates in history.
Yeah, and and the the like a lot of the true believers, that is really what they want.
But it's funny, you mentioned they don't have theory of mind, and they can't I agree with you, but then and they don't believe other people believe things, but like they do believe you believe in white supremacy.
Like they're like, no one thinks differently from me, but you're a white supremacist.
phil labonte
No, that's an that's a weird thing.
You don't think I think it's really no, that is a way to access power.
seamus coughlin
I think they believe it.
phil labonte
They don't no, they don't I think they do think you're racist.
seamus coughlin
I 100% think they think you're racist problem.
phil labonte
I don't I don't think it matters like to them really, because they may they say racist things all the time.
seamus coughlin
I know, but they don't see that it's racist when they say it because they don't have the institutional power or they're not fighting on the side of the institutions.
phil labonte
They don't think it's racist because they don't believe in racism.
libby emmons
They don't believe in anything.
They're all but the the point the point that I'm making is the oppression victim hierarchy, yes, they do believe in that.
phil labonte
Yes, but that's why they could but the reason they think God is dead.
They don't believe that like they believe that like uh Larry Elder is the black face of white supremacy.
Do you like the the argument they will say that black people can't be racist, sure they but then they'll but then they'll also say that Larry Elder is racist.
So it's not that they believe you're racist.
It doesn't matter what they say they believe.
It's all about power.
It's only about accessing power.
riley moore
Well do you want to circle just real quick to do that?
No, yeah, go just to because we were talking about Islamists and extremists.
In Nigeria, they did just pass a law recently that blasphemy is punishable by death.
You get the death penalty for that.
seamus coughlin
The the re part of the reason I say that we can say they do believe that um Christians should be hurt and they want Christians to be hurt is because you're right, they play language games, but when you look at their actions and when you look at the actions of the left historically, that's what they've done.
Everywhere they they've come to power, they've they've slaughtered Christians.
phil labonte
But the reason they slaughter Christians is because Christianity gives you a foundation of belief.
Christianity gives you a right and wrong.
It gives you a way to judge them.
I think we've got that's why they hate Christianity.
And I'm not saying they don't need to be.
seamus coughlin
So there's two main theories.
There's one theory that like they want to destroy the family and they want to destroy Christianity because those things are standing in the way of socialism.
I believe that like the actual entire purpose of socialism is they do want to destroy Christianity, they do want to destroy the family.
I think that's the center of the bullseye for them.
phil labonte
They do because b but it's not but they do that because it stands in the way of their revolution.
seamus coughlin
It is.
That's where we disagree.
Like, I think it's the point of revolution.
I think even if they didn't have a revolution, they would still want to do that.
riley moore
Now for the Islamists.
seamus coughlin
I think the revolution's an excuse.
That's my point.
riley moore
The Islamists.
They align themselves with the left, and obviously they wouldn't align with us, but they know that the right, specifically the Christian right, we're not malleable.
seamus coughlin
That's true.
riley moore
We have values, we have principles, we believe in God.
There's nothing above God.
They're just the opposite evil coin of that, right?
seamus coughlin
Yep.
riley moore
And so for us, we are a threat in their mind, and so that's why it's alignment of convenience, right?
Uh, in between the left and the um and the and the Islamist extremists that are out there.
seamus coughlin
Um, no name farmer said Sheamus, make a video where sorter's camera magically causes riots whenever turned on, and that's when the cops arrest him for disorderly conduct, dude.
unidentified
That's hilarious.
seamus coughlin
That's hilarious.
It is your fault.
You did cause that riot by filming it.
nick sortor
Yeah, exactly.
seamus coughlin
Schrdinger's riot.
riley moore
Filming his violence.
seamus coughlin
Uh film by filming it changing.
unidentified
It's it's a quantum riot by observing it, you change the outcome.
That's game.
seamus coughlin
Oh my gosh, I read that one.
unidentified
You say it and then we're laughing about it, but this is what the police choose to say.
seamus coughlin
That's the law.
Um this is Jaeger Faust 83 says from from the fence to the tree, Hassan's dog will be free.
libby emmons
That was brutal.
seamus coughlin
Oh my gosh.
We may or may be working on uh cartoon relevant to that.
phil labonte
Oh, I can't wait.
unidentified
Okay.
seamus coughlin
Um then we have uh man, I'm gonna embarrass my no, no, no, I don't want to read that.
Um my gosh, that's beautiful.
All right, Timothy Brock said, the wife and I are having our sixth and final child in January.
In light of recent events, we've decided to name him Charlie.
unidentified
Man, well, awesome to hear.
seamus coughlin
God bless God has blessed you with children, and God bless you for welcoming all that life into the world.
libby emmons
No wonder God bless you.
seamus coughlin
God bless you.
Um Poppins Patches video says, My wife is a pretty MAGA pediatrician, RFK is driving her nuts.
The lack of citing the studies he's talking about or the studies he cited, don't say his claims.
Now I send her articles to work her up.
unidentified
That's like a like a like a good husband.
seamus coughlin
You gotta get her upset every now and again.
No, it's funny because listen, I know uh doctors who are concerned.
I know one doctor in particular who's more conservative, like kind of libertarian conservative, and he sort of likes RFK, but he'll say things like that too.
That's why, again, my whole point is I don't think we should treat it as so wild that RFK is asking questions about autism, like you mentioned earlier.
I don't think it's so nuts that he has questions about various interventions, but I've heard that from from medical professionals, like including some conservative ones.
unidentified
Um let me go.
seamus coughlin
No, no, no, no.
unidentified
Um, oh, this sorry.
seamus coughlin
Um Miss Fermissi said or Ms. Fermissi said, these people cheered for forcing people to stay in their homes, get vaccines and wear masks.
They either have no idea what authoritarian means or are just horrifically ignorant.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
This is oh sure.
Sorry, we moved to another tab here.
Here, can you let me uh sorry?
No, no, no, yeah.
Dilly442 says Islam is using the left to take over America.
Um that's I think we all agree with that.
Like you mentioned, their beliefs were so malleable.
So if what you were trying to do was find a fault within a system to exploit it so that you could change it, that's what you would do.
I mean, that's who you would basically go after.
You would try to become part of some left-wing political uh coalition.
Um, this is okay.
Uh the deep friar says, Hey, prayer cast IRL.
I humbly ask you all, pray tomorrow between 7 and 8 p.m. CDT for a pastor friend who has stage four cancer.
libby emmons
Oh my goodness.
seamus coughlin
Uh, and has been suffering.
He's young with five young children.
Oh my god, heels.
Please pray for this man.
Please pray for this man and his family.
Oh, that's horrible.
And his and his uh his poor wife.
Oh, that's horrible.
Pray, pray.
Um Baitcaster says, tell them, Phil, Zoomers will change the union.
I it's gonna be interesting to see what the I mean, interesting, by which I mean horrifying, to see what the declining birth rate does to politics.
Obviously, there's like if we we're importing foreigners to try to make up for that, but it only makes it worse.
Yeah, yeah.
riley moore
Not on my watch.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, amen.
But then you go, but then how do we?
And there's a question like, how do we get people?
How do we get uh legacy Americans, heritage Americans, to start having large enough families again to meet replacement?
Because it's not even just the case that's like, oh, we used to have we uh everyone was having six kids and now everyone's having three kids.
It's like we're not even at replacement anymore.
phil labonte
No, no.
libby emmons
We used to be 2.5.
Like the joke was you know, married couple with white picket fence and 2.5 kids, and that was sort of like oh doofus jokers, and now nobody has you know, people are not having 2.5 kids.
nick sortor
Hot take that's gonna get me in trouble in the comments section.
Young people are replacing children with dogs.
I'm telling you, right?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
seamus coughlin
Oh my gosh.
Dude, I alright, so I wanted to mention this when we were talking about the Hassan thing.
libby emmons
My family.
nick sortor
Yeah, yeah.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, I wanted to mention this when we were talking about the Hassan thing because he has this dog sitting behind him, and it's sort of a prop there.
And when it moves, he he got mad.
Okay, this is the per and I love dogs, I love animals, but I think what happens with certain people is because an animal can't speak to you, it is easier to project your personality onto it, and therefore, that is why a lot of very selfish people are like very obsessed with animals.
I'm not saying it's you're selfish if you're obsessed with animals.
I really love dogs, but I am saying there's a certain kind of person who's like, I love my dog out.
And it's like, no, you don't.
You just project your ego onto it, and that's why when like the dog gets up in the middle of a stream, you freak out and and hurt it because like you don't actually love it.
You see it as a tool to bolster your own ego.
libby emmons
People need somewhere to put their love.
And so they they put it all on their dogs or their dumb cat.
nick sortor
And I feel I feel like a little bit bad for these people that constantly are posting photos of their dogs like they are children.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, I'm not saying reading more.
riley moore
Yeah, what is up with that?
libby emmons
I just want to I will say that I have a leash and harness for my cat, but that's only so that I can let her sit on the porch.
seamus coughlin
And that's a leash.
That's different, but I I I want to make clear too.
I'm talking about a very specific kind of person.
I'm not saying everyone who has pets or like everyone who was infertile and couldn't have kids and and got pets or something is that kind of person.
And I agree with you.
I I do feel bad for a lot of these people when they post this stuff.
riley moore
BD hit the nail on the head, cat ladies.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, it's sad.
Yeah.
libby emmons
Um that's why everyone's all the lefties, all the lefty Swifties are so mad at Taylor Swift for getting married.
unidentified
Yeah.
libby emmons
She's gonna be leaving their rank.
phil labonte
Have you read have you read the some of the or have you seen the uh TikToks about reading her lyrics and being like, oh my god, she's gonna she's on the alt-right pipeline now.
libby emmons
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
Wait, who?
phil labonte
Taylor Swift.
libby emmons
Charlie Kirk got slammed for being like, Taylor, submit to your husband.
seamus coughlin
This is a baby.
phil labonte
So before the before the uh the Super Bowl last year, oh, it's time to go.
I'm not gonna get into it.
Anyways, we can we can get up there.
seamus coughlin
Are we gonna let me read this one more?
Yeah, we're gonna read, we're gonna be one more chat from um Sherry Sugary.
I'm so sorry, I'm having trouble with that last name.
Uh Cherry Shagri says service members space out their bills because the government makes them get paid on the first and the 15th.
I have never seen them not pay the military in my 20 years of service during a shutdown.
What can we do to help them pass a bill?
phil labonte
Nothing.
riley moore
Get Democrats to vote for it in the Senate.
It's already passed in the House.
We have passed the bill in the House, get the Democrats to vote for it in the Senate.
nick sortor
Well, the actual question is real quick.
Sorry, is can there be a standalone bill just for that?
riley moore
I you can do anything, sure.
But we have passed a bill to fund the military in the house.
They just gotta vote for it in the Senate.
seamus coughlin
Well, ladies and gentlemen, thank you so much for stopping by.
We're gonna go to our after show segment here soon, but first I want to give everybody a chance to sign out and shout out whatever project they're currently working on or whatever it is they want to promote.
Libby.
libby emmons
Oh, I will promote uh some stuff.
My name's Libby Evans.
You can find me on Twitter at Libby Emmons.
You can check out everything we're doing at the postmillennial.com and humanevents.com and you could sign up for my newsletter uh at the postmillennial.com slash libby.
Thanks.
riley moore
All right.
So I taped a little pre-segment here for all the subscribers.
So uh obviously hit the subscribe button.
If you'd like to see a congressman do a kick flip.
Uh I actually did one.
I was out here skating the park right before it.
I think I'm the number one rated skateboarder in Congress, and I don't think anyone can take that title from me.
nick sortor
Burch it would have something to say about it.
riley moore
Yeah, yeah.
I would I've seen him ride I haven't seen him do a kickflip though.
I haven't seen him do a kick flip.
I've seen him seen him ride on a board.
Uh Riley Moore for WV on all handles.
Uh West Virginia Second Congressional District.
Thanks for having me on again.
nick sortor
All right, mixed sorter.
Uh mostly just on X at Nix Order because most of the other platforms are uh degenerate hell holes and uh give me brain damage.
So I stick to X for the most part uh because they also don't ban me.
Uh and I will uh be seeing you in Chicago soon.
You know, people in Chicago.
Just uh keep that in mind.
There's a lot of rock there.
Like some of the I I some people argue that the ice riots there are worse than Portland, so I guess we're gonna find out.
phil labonte
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The band is all that remains.
We are gonna be playing Welcome to Rockville at the Daytona International Speedway this May.
So we're also gonna be putting a bunch more shows around that.
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seamus coughlin
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Thank you guys so much.
God bless you.
Thanks for helping us build culture.
Thanks.
Thank you for the incredibly strong start we've had to our crowdfunding campaign with your help.
This has really been incredibly touching.
It's been an amazing outpouring of support.
Um I'm really inspired to keep kicking butt with this and make this show.
I'm very honored to have gotten to host Timcast, and I'm going to see every single one of you on the after show in a couple minutes here.
unidentified
I'm very honored to have gotten to host Timcast, and I'm going to see every single one of you on the after show.
I'm very honored to have gotten to host Timcast.
seamus coughlin
Welcome to the after show, which is the only segment Libby feels comfortable expressing her true feelings on all of the dark horrible and words.
She said you guys didn't even want to know.
You guys don't even want to know.
Um, we're here to talk about uh a couple really fun topics, but I want everyone to, you know, introduce themselves.
Was there anything you wanted to say on the show that you couldn't that you want to say now?
I'm gonna ask you, I'm gonna ask you to leave.
I'm gonna ask you to leave.
You need to go.
phil labonte
It's fine.
It's fine.
You're you were fine.
seamus coughlin
I can't believe you said that.
nick sortor
Wait, what is the streaming?
I thought we were I thought this is the uh the after show, the uncensored version.
seamus coughlin
This is technically the uncensored version.
nick sortor
Okay.
seamus coughlin
Um, yeah, so how's everybody doing tonight?
Good?
phil labonte
Doing well.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
Do great.
unidentified
Good.
seamus coughlin
I'm glad to hear it.
I'm glad we're all we're all out here being uncensored.
libby emmons
I think we should have snacks.
We don't have any snacks.
phil labonte
I literally had a chance to get up and go get snacks.
There are snacks downstairs like men.
libby emmons
Oh, there's I forgot about downstairs.
I just looked in the dump kit.
That sounds awful.
phil labonte
Well, they usually do, they might be out, but no, there's all the boxes on there.
I'm not making you an omelet.
libby emmons
There's also chickens.
seamus coughlin
I might just make an omelet when I get I appreciate Phil setting boundaries.
He's like, I will not make it.
He's like, I'll help you.
I will not make you an omelet.
libby emmons
I actually think I have Tim Cast uh eggs in my fridge.
unidentified
Whoa.
phil labonte
We our our egg uh consumption is subsidized by Timcast.
We I love that.
We get we go through usually four cartons of eggs a week.
libby emmons
That's a lot.
seamus coughlin
That's a lot, but you know what?
phil labonte
When Tim's giving them out, if I'm not eating four from Tim, like everybody here gets them, but I'll get usually we get one.
It's subsidized.
It's not not covered in the street.
unidentified
Okay, it's not covering the full cost.
So we had some uh breaking news.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, yeah, I wanted to be a post-millennial news.
Uh so here's some breaking news from the post millennial TP USA.
I well, listen, man, I was trying.
T USA announced an all American halftime show to counter the Super Bowl bad bunny performance.
So he better hop on out of here.
Am I right?
All right.
Turning point USA is thrilled to announce the all American halftime show.
It was in everyone there, is an American.
Performers and events details will come soon.
I added that thing about everyone there is an American.
But they are doing an all-American halftime show.
Um they've announced this.
I can't remember where the I Posa was talking about this the other night.
libby emmons
He's been talking about it for for like it seems like forever, but it's probably only been like three days.
seamus coughlin
And we're like, we're like, Postos talking about this nonstop, and his tweet is I've had to keep quiet about this all week.
And now it's finally over.
phil labonte
He let the he let the uh cat out of the bag the other day about who was trying to get on the Right.
libby emmons
He was like, should Creed play a turning point.
phil labonte
Well, no, I mean they get the nobody.
They didn't get Creed, but he's he he specifically said, I don't think he did it on the show, so I'm not gonna say because I know that they would want to, I don't want to scoop him or anything, but I he talked about the situation.
It's a great idea, in my opinion.
riley moore
I I did comment a big yes on Creed on that post.
Um I'm very very much into that.
phil labonte
You're gonna be on tour in Europe.
That's why not.
libby emmons
You know, uh oh yeah.
phil labonte
No, actually, I'm sorry, not Creed, Alter Bridge, which is Creed with Miles Kennedy singing.
Uh they do different songs, and Miles Kennedy's a phenomenal singer.
Um, but so they can't get Creed.
riley moore
Is this like Van Halen versus Van Hagar kind of thing?
phil labonte
No, no, Alter Bridge does their has their own catalogs.
unidentified
Oh, okay, okay.
phil labonte
Yeah, they don't do they don't do creed songs.
Um yeah, they don't they don't do creed songs, but uh so yeah.
libby emmons
Well, uh for the past several years, the Super Bowl halftime show has been just so dumb and boring.
So it would be awful.
nick sortor
There's so many names that you could have chosen from, and we went with somebody that like 90% of the population has never heard of.
libby emmons
Yeah, and somebody who said that he was officially boycotting touring in the United States.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, well, I I want to mention this too.
So the the performer whose real name is Benito Antonio Martinez, it's not even really bad bunny, told reporters previously people from this is insane.
He's using a fake name to pass as an American.
Um, he is Puerto Rican, so he is American.
No, I know, I know, but he's mostly popular outside of the United States.
Uh which is interesting.
It's an interesting choice for a halftime show.
libby emmons
Probably commie countries.
phil labonte
Exactly.
seamus coughlin
Exactly.
Communist love and bunny.
In Venezuela, they've eaten plenty of bunnies, so they know the good from the bad.
Um that's a uh joke about socialism.
libby emmons
Okay.
seamus coughlin
Since it was revealed that Martinez would be performing, he has appeared to go out of his way to disrespect the country, sitting down while everyone else stood during a performance of God.
I didn't know about that.
libby emmons
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
He sat during a performance of God Bless America at Yankee Stadium.
That this is the thing.
What okay.
When you say someone's not American, even as a jailcover and goes, he's Puerto Rican.
It's like, then why is he disrespecting America?
And they'll get upset like if you actually hate America, if you want to disrespect the country, why would it bother you if people told you you weren't an American?
Yeah.
nick sortor
Yeah, I mean, you're saying that he's uh I don't know if this is a lot of people.
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