Aug. 27, 2025 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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| All right, folks, we're back. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard another edition of the Poso Cash. | ||
| Jack Posobik, host of Human Events Daily, here live filling in for the great Tim Poole. | ||
| Tim is on the men. | ||
| And, you know, I see all these people. | ||
| The conspiracy theory out there is that Tim Poole is dead? | ||
| No, Tim is not dead like Paul McCartney who totally died all those years ago during the Beatles. | ||
| No, Tim is not dead at all. | ||
| As we know, Phil has him tied up in the basement. | ||
| Isn't that right, Phil? | ||
| I need, I can neither confirm nor deny that. | ||
| Yeah, see, there we go. | ||
| Look, look, all I'm, guys, all I'm saying is, Phil, he's, he's, he's kind of a big guy and he's good with knots. | ||
| So, I mean, you know, you know, anyway, look, we got a huge show tonight. | ||
| We've got so much going on. | ||
| There's a ton happening out in the world. | ||
| You know, I want to get in. | ||
| Of course, obviously, we've got to rock this. | ||
| first story, we kind of touched on it yesterday regarding the 600,000 Chinese student visas. | ||
| This comment that was made has absolutely set the internet on fire. | ||
| There is a MAGA backlash and uproar, if you will, to this. | ||
| And it comes on the same day that a Chinese student, a doctoral student, has been accused of stealing confidential U.S. government research in the United States. | ||
| So it's a crazy story. | ||
| We're going to get into that. | ||
| We're going to get into, of course, charges on Shiloh Hendrix, which is a massive story out. | ||
| We're going to get a massive story out of Rochester, Minnesota. | ||
| We're also going to get into this, this viral video, insane video out of Scotland of a young girl having to defend herself with battle axes against a couple of migrants, her and her sister. | ||
| By the way, Cracker Barrel going back to the old logo shout out to all the people shout out to all the haters from yesterday. | ||
| It worked, all right, it worked shout out to Tate on that, by the way, who chimped out like an absolute champ for pretty much a week straight. | ||
| It was tough, yeah, it was a lot of work. | ||
| You do realize that you have to only eat Cracker Barrel for a year now. | ||
| Yeah, I know what I signed up for, right? | ||
| Okay, all right, the pancakes are great. | ||
| The pancakes are great. | ||
| The pancakes are great. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| It's Cracker Barrel. | ||
| Let us know. | ||
| We got a bunch of other good stories. | ||
| So we're getting into it all tonight. | ||
| We're absolutely getting into it all. | ||
| I want to go in. | ||
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| Another piece that I wanted to get to and I I'm remiss. | ||
| I am remiss for not knowing this yesterday. | ||
| We should have checked yesterday in the member section we were talking about psycho stew, better known as Stuart Smith, the boxer in this hyperviral video that's going out with Rampage Jackson's son, Raja Jackson. | ||
| We didn't realize that Psycho Sue, I didn't realize this, that he had a GoFundMe. | ||
| So guys, let's go in here and do everything we can. | ||
| Let's donate as much as possible to Psycho Sue. | ||
| Search, get the link out so that people can see it. | ||
| I think you just go to GoFundMe. | ||
| You can support Psycho Stu. | ||
| It's spelled SYKO STU. | ||
| I want to get into that story a little bit. | ||
| Shout out to Mr. Beast, by the way, top donation of $10,000 that's going in, but only 3,000 people have donated the.. | ||
| It's at about, it just broke $100,000. | ||
| So it's at $112,000 right now. | ||
| Let's do everything we can for this guy because this is, you know, it's a horrible thing to see, but it's absolutely something that deserves to be helped with. | ||
| But we have a great show tonight and we have a guest who's going to talk about that and possibly a lot more because folks, I believe, first time on Timcast, right? | ||
| First time. | ||
| First time, first time, David Nino Rodriguez. | ||
| And I've had you on my show. | ||
| And you've been on my show, right? | ||
| So this is, yeah, we've done this, we did the show last year, so it's not our first show., but it's our first time on Tim's show. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Yeah, I'm kind of upset. | ||
| I wanted to see Tim. | ||
| Not that I didn't want to see you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I wanted to see you. | ||
| We all like, I'm looking forward to seeing Tim. | ||
| Tim is absolutely alive, by the way. | ||
| I can't believe that people would think that Tim is not dead. | ||
| He's definitely not dead. | ||
| Tim's fine. | ||
| Totally fine. | ||
| In the basement. | ||
| Tell people a little bit about yourself and, and, and, and, you know, kind of how you guys started doing this. | ||
| Well, yeah. | ||
| I mean, I just kind of transferred to Rena's. | ||
| I've been a fighter my whole life. | ||
| I was a top ten heavyweight contender champion boxer 36 and zero at my peak. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| I had two run-ins with death in 2011. | ||
| I got knifeed. | ||
| I overdosed on drugs. | ||
| I was a partyer. | ||
| I was juggling with both extremes, many extremes. | ||
| Died twice in 2011, flatlined. | ||
| Once when I'm overdosing on drugs, the other time I took a knife to the neck coming out of a bar, they slit my throat, and I almost died there. | ||
| Came back and didn't have a successful comeback after that. | ||
| And my life changed. | ||
| My whole life got nuked. | ||
| So they didn't take my life. | ||
| They took my career. | ||
| And I was forced to pivot and do something else. | ||
| So I had to reinvent myself. | ||
| I could have stayed in boxing. | ||
| I could have been a trainer. | ||
| I could have done all that stuff. | ||
| But I just felt compelled to go into the world of, I would like to say I kind of follow the deep state war on the politics going on behind the scenes. | ||
| That's what I follow. | ||
| And that's really where that just attracted to me. | ||
| That's what I recognize strategy. | ||
| So would you say that those experiences that you went through, you know, led you to see those same kind of patterns happening? | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I can see strategy. | ||
| I can see patterns. | ||
| And I just fell into it. | ||
| And my podcast took off. | ||
| It's Ninos Corner.tv. | ||
| And it really exploded on the scene. | ||
| And I'm still going, man. | ||
| still watching everything and i think it's just absolutely uh for me it's it's it's like it's unbelievable to see how trump is quote-unquote beating the odds where he's at right now and seeing everything that's happening but uh i see strategy i see brilliance and i see an operation no we did great i remember doing nino's corner last year when we were doing the push for the unhumans book and we did a great interview so absolutely let's have another one today people love you man ah not good but let's let's let's go around the horn and here's a guy that i have not seen uh in in ages | ||
| it's a lot what's up man good evening everybody why are we both so tan today i don't know i didn't think um holax could get that dark oh i get even darker than this brother i get even darker people people will mistake me for So good evening, everybody. | ||
| My name is Alad Eliyahu. | ||
| I'm the White House correspondent here at Timcast. | ||
| Tate, what's up? | ||
| What's up, everybody? | ||
| Tate Brown here holding it down. | ||
| So you like that's a new catchphrase, I think. | ||
| It's going to work. | ||
| Yeah, filled in for this morning. | ||
| Telling people that it's a new catchphrase. | ||
| To make it worse. | ||
| Yeah, to really hammer it home. | ||
| And we had a morning show, we had a great interview today with Congressman Tim Burchett. | ||
| You got to go check that out. | ||
| It was excellent. | ||
| Yeah, so go check that out. | ||
| Yeah, hello, everybody. | ||
| My name is Philip Bonte. | ||
| I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains. | ||
| I'm an anti-communist and a counter revolutionary. | ||
| Let's get into it. | ||
| Let's get into it. | ||
| Yeah, so Alad and I, by the way, we were at the White House pretty much the whole day today. | ||
| They were doing a media row. | ||
| And but but the the and and God bless them but the reason we were out there so long is because we they were having this cabinet meeting which turned, which they said, okay, they're going to have the cabinet meeting and then members of the cabinet will come out and you guys can interview them and it's going to be great. | ||
| And so, you know, you know, we set up, we bring cameras, we do the whole thing. | ||
| And they're like, okay, we're pretty sure the meeting is going to be, you know, maybe an hour and a half, maybe two hours max. | ||
| Okay, maybe two and a half. | ||
| Okay, maybe three. | ||
| It went three and a half hours. | ||
| So a lot of night we spent, we almost four hours out there. | ||
| At least it was on the South Lawn. | ||
| It's a good place to be left out to dry. | ||
| So we were chilling on the South Lawnwn. | ||
| Chilling like a chilling overlooking the Oval Office. | ||
| Trump did peep out. | ||
| President Trump did peep out at one point, but I had a great interview with Director CI, not CIA, what is it? | ||
| ICE Director Lyons. | ||
| I think you also had an interview. | ||
| Yeah, I got to sit down with him. | ||
| And so we'll put that out soon, but it's great. | ||
| Anything at the White House, I feel like it's a great opportunity. | ||
| I know, it's incredible. | ||
| And there's something that I feel that this White House is never going to get credit for. | ||
| And they're doing so even more than the first term. | ||
| I mean, they're so accessible. | ||
| They're really so accessible. | ||
| And they let you talk to the directors and the secretaries. | ||
| on a very one-to-one basis and they're so open. | ||
| And I would absolutely encourage anyone who's out there, Nino, I gotta get you in there, man. | ||
| No, can I just say something? | ||
| I forgot to tell you, you know, I gotta go. | ||
| I don't want, I will go, but I just want to say one thing. | ||
| I don't want people to think that you're all sitting here with a degenerate and I just, I gotta catch myself. | ||
| I've been six years sober. | ||
| There you go, man. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| I gotta make sure I gotta clear the room here. | ||
| Like, I gotta clear the air. | ||
| I don't want people to be like, damn, they got a degenerate. | ||
| I'll take the degenerate title. | ||
| I'm not sober yet. | ||
| So, six years. | ||
| So, Tate, I learned my lesson. | ||
| Wait, Tate was about to ask you where you're going tonight. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Hey, what's the mission? | ||
| Anyway, winner. | ||
| Like West Virginia Nights. | ||
| I was like, I don't know if he's the right person to go to a bar with. | ||
| But it's Tuesday night. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| 8 a.m. somewhere. | ||
| I don't like quitters. | ||
| I've been in a touring metal band for twenty years. | ||
| You see it all. | ||
| Okay, cool. | ||
| You're not the only guy. | ||
| You're not the only, only one knife. | ||
| You know, you're the pussy. | ||
| I just, I just go to Cracker Barrel. | ||
| So, right. | ||
| You know, that's pretty much my, that's pretty, yeah, I'm in the rocking chair. | ||
| They actually based the logo of Cracker Barrel off of me, because I'm just the guy who's out there with the barrel. | ||
| Hashtag real cracker. | ||
| Hashtag real cracker. | ||
| But no, folks, we've got to get into this because we So we mentioned this story yesterday. | ||
| It had come up and, you know, I think over the last 24 hours, it's absolutely just taken over the internet in a huge firestorm. | ||
| Trump says the US would accept 600,000 Chinese students, sparking uproar among some conservatives. | ||
| They talk about Rep Marjorie Taylor Greene. | ||
| This is an NBC article, conservative influencer Laura Loomer blasting the idea. | ||
| By the way, they keep pointing out that NBC has got this picture up of President Trump and they're talking about the Chinese students. | ||
| Of course, this is the President of South Korea. | ||
| It is not the President of China in the picture. | ||
| Now, of course, now, to be fair, to be fair, you know. | ||
| They're saying they're doing that because that's the meeting he was at when he made the comments. | ||
| But at the same time, like, if I was at Human Events or Postmillennial, if I was doing graphics, I'd probably say, I just, I feel like it doesn't make sense to include him in this picture because the story is not about him. | ||
| I can understand the mistake. | ||
| Oh, no, no. | ||
| Don't say it. | ||
| But then, wait, but wait, plot twist, wait, plot twist. | ||
| The author is Kimmy Yam. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| Sounds like an Asian author. | ||
| So plot twist. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know, maybe we're cool. | ||
| Maybe we're cool. | ||
| Inside job, exactly. | ||
| Didn't the President of South Korea float the idea of Trump Hotel in North Korea? | ||
| today? | ||
| He mentioned it. | ||
| Yeah, in the meeting, he mentioned it and he says, I hope we have the idea. | ||
| Well, so this new party of South Korea is a very pro-unification party and they're they have been accused of a lot of ties to the CCP. | ||
| So they have a totally different line on North Korea than they than the other party, which is much more conservative, much more combative, much more anti-CCP, anti-communist. | ||
| And so there's, you know, that's one of the things he's saying, well, you know, we want denuclearization, but we also want the Trump Tower and we want this and we want that and unification. | ||
| And wouldn't it be great if Beijing took, wait, wait, what? | ||
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What did you say? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| So he'd probably be totally cool with the Chinese students. | ||
| But let's get into this because this is what I asked. | ||
| And I was checking this. | ||
| So 600,000 Chinese student visas. | ||
| I'm against that, for sure. | ||
| I don't, I don't think we need this. | ||
| I don't, and we talked about this last night, but, you know, it's, they, they pay full freight. | ||
| This is a huge cash cow for the universities. | ||
| So just right off its bat, if it helps the universities, it's something that I want. | ||
| It's a money thing. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| It's a money thing. | ||
| And this comes on the heels of that student that was giving away secrets, correct? | ||
| Right. | ||
| So I was just going to mention that. | ||
| So that happens on the same day. | ||
| But I wanted to get into. | ||
| into and just let's let's put the scope of this real quick here. | ||
| What is the current number of Chinese students? | ||
| So the current number is just under 300,000. | ||
| So it's about 300,000 that are here. | ||
| This is a doubling of the Chinese student population in the United States or would be a doubling, which is also, by the way, there's so many Republicans that have been fighting against this. | ||
| Marco Rubio has talked about this, the Secretary of State, so many other policymakers. | ||
| Now, what's interesting is the White House has not responded to comments on this. | ||
| And so look, you know, there's been a lot of times where President Trump has said something specifically regarding visas in one of these meetings where it doesn't really turn into policy from the White House. | ||
| I'm wondering if this is going to be one of those conversations, one of those times, but we still have to talk about it. | ||
| So yeah, Nina, you were mentioning this, the other side of it where there was a guy who was a kid who was just I believe charged, right? | ||
| He was charged. | ||
| So he's actually been charged today down in Texas for attempting to steal research funded by the U.S. government and taking it back to his native China. | ||
| Is this the first time this has happened, Nina? | ||
| Look, I come from the border, right? | ||
| I'm from El Paso, Texas. | ||
| I'm watching people get kicked out of their homes, Abuelo's grandfathers that have families here that have kids and then that are Americanized that speak only English and then they have grandkids that speak only English and they're getting ready to deport the grandpa, you know, and then you're going to let in six hundred thousand Chinese students. | ||
| That's just so hypocritical to me. | ||
| I just see from an ethical standpoint, standpoint, I see something completely wrong with this, especially if they're the ones giving out the secrets. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| I mean, what's the Abuelo doing in El Paso? | ||
| You know, that that that's just trying to live his life. | ||
| I mean, I think there's we've got to come to a middle range here to where. | ||
| we can argue the point of certain people staying, like a grandfather who's here, who's been here for thirty something years. | ||
| And look, I see you shaking your head and I with it, but when you come to this, would you bring this up, you're going to let six thousand six hundred thousand chinese in i mean from a humanitarian point of view i i'm just i'm just saying i'm with you on this the chinese that the chinese are actual adversary. | ||
| So allowing 600,000 Chinese nationals into the United States is a terrible thing. | ||
| I'm saying I'm against it. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| I'm against it. | ||
| I'm totally against it. | ||
| But I'm saying like, what do you tell the grandfather? | ||
| You're going to allow them in, but what are you telling the abuelo who's sitting at home with his kids and grandkids, you gotta go back to Best. | ||
| He's been here thirty years. | ||
| He's done nothing. | ||
| He's come in here illegally? | ||
| Correct. | ||
| Well, that's the wrong thing. | ||
| That's the wrong thing. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| And on paper, these guys would be legal. | ||
| And dude, I'm with you on that. | ||
| I'm with you on that. | ||
| I'm just saying, how do you argue that when you're doing that? | ||
| That's how I'd argue. | ||
| I mean, for the, I wouldn't be making the argument because I would never accept a nationalist position. | ||
| Dude, I'm on your side. | ||
| Just let me get it. | ||
| I mean, I I've got to say, in that case, why not both? | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| So you understand what I'm saying. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| How about go home or in Chinese, hui tia. | ||
| Hui tia. | ||
| I'm a little bit ambivalent on the issue. | ||
| And I want to steal man Trump's case here. | ||
| He did actually have more recent comments on this where he said, I told President Xi that we're honored to have his students here. | ||
| And now with that, we'll check them. | ||
| We'll be very careful to see who it is on the concerns of them potentially being spies or stealing information. | ||
| So it's a couple of things at hand here that we should explore further. | ||
| You mentioned it again, the universities. | ||
| These foreign students pay full tuition. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Which is usually roughly at least double what like someone who is in the state would pay for a lot of these schools. | ||
| And a lot of these So we actually have in the article, I've got a number for you just to add to the steal man, I guess Chinese students contributed in 2023. | ||
| So is it, what's the source for this though? | ||
| NBC is claiming it, but there's no source. | ||
| So NBC claims there's no source, but they're claiming that Chinese students contributed $14 billion to the U.S. economy. | ||
| So here's the thing. | ||
| I'd like to know where that comes from. | ||
| So whatever they contribute to tuition is one thing. | ||
| Then there's like the total economic picture of what else they contribute here because when these people are here is, you know, they need to shop, they need to eat food, they need to buy things, and that's what they do. | ||
| So they contribute to the economy. | ||
| So there's like that monetary value. | ||
| It's a huge subsidy to these colleges. | ||
| I went to the university at Buffalo, it felt like half the college were these Chinese and Indian students, but without them, these colleges wouldn't be able to survive. | ||
| There's something to say about the soft power aspect of this. | ||
| While I think we have something like a sense of what's going on. | ||
| Lutnick has been arguing. | ||
| Yeah, that there's a cultural aspect to this. | ||
| Most people don't want to go to there are some people who shop around schools all around planet Earth, but the best schools generally that foreign students want to go to are schools in the United States and the cultural impact of some of your best and brightest from foreign countries coming here, in in ingrating yourself with American values and then taking that home. | ||
| I think there's something to daughter, famously, I believe, went to Harvard for x number of years and the influence there can be untold. | ||
| So I think we should also think of this in terms of the trade deficit that we have with China. | ||
| This is essentially a trade item that could help balance that trade imbalance as well. | ||
| And I think that's why they're going for a doubling. | ||
| So while I do have concerns about the security aspect, I think these are rich Chinese people coming here with fat wallets. | ||
| And I think these are probably the most western of Chinese people to begin with who would even consider coming here. | ||
| I know you spent some time in China yourself. | ||
| About two years, yeah. | ||
| You know, what do you think about Trump using this as kind of in the aspect of trade, not too concerned using this as a tool to kind of try to leverage with President Xi? | ||
| I think that it would, in a vacuum, you know, maybe. | ||
| I would say, you know, that's a good point. | ||
| But, you know, in the past 20, 30 years since the globalist project has been set up, our relationship with China has been absolutely toxic for this country. | ||
| And it's deprived so many people of their jobs in terms of the manufacturing that's been outsourced at the blue-collar level. | ||
| And what we're talking about here is depriving people of a pathway to a better life if you would have had the ability to make it into one of these schools. | ||
| But you're, you know, you're some kid from the Midwest. | ||
| And so you're playing for maybe scholarships or whatever it is, and you can't get one because they want that spot to go to some scion of the CCP elite that is able to pay full freight. | ||
| So they're going to come in. | ||
| And by the way, you know, to your point about the CCP's sending their kids here, Zhang Zemin's grandson went to UPenn like twenty years ago. | ||
| And so this, you know, this has been going on for quite some time. | ||
| We haven't seen any shift in the CCP. | ||
| And if anything, they've become more authoritarian. | ||
| In Zhang Zemin, Hu Jintao were more technocratic, whereas Xi Jinping is much more authoritarian and certainly has been since he's taken power in 2012 and has remained and perhaps will be the Chinese, you know, the chairman of the party until long after we're all dead because he's going to be keeping himself immortal with Chinese power. | ||
| And so, if anything, we've become more like China since this globalist relationship has begun. | ||
| And so, you know, when I look at something like this, again, I still say, what is best for the American people first? | ||
| See, that's what I have a problem with. | ||
| I mean, the World Economic Forum, Klaus Schwab has said that the model for the world is China, the CCP China. | ||
| So we are letting in 600,000 of them. | ||
| I just, I, I'm sorry. | ||
| I just, I see a lot of things wrong with it. | ||
| And I think it's very hypocritical. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I, and I'm, you know, I, I'm a Trump supporter all the way. | ||
| People don't get it wrong. | ||
| I am. | ||
| But I'm going to call things out when I don't agree with it, just like everyone here. | ||
| I'm pretty sure everyone agrees with me on this one, right? | ||
| And all I was saying was about the Mexican grandpa at home who's done nothing wrong. | ||
| Then, you know, doing it for some and not all of them. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| You can't just pick and choose, to me. | ||
| I mean, it's just such a very... | ||
| I do agree that you got to come here legally, no doubt about it. | ||
| But I mean, if we're really looking at the real numbers, we're looking at what, 30, 40 million illegals here in America. | ||
| So funny enough, Alaud and I both interviewed the ICE director today, and you asked him about that number too, right? | ||
| He couldn't even give us a solid number on how many are here. | ||
| I asked him how many have they detained and deported so far, and what are their goals? | ||
| I don't think anyone in the Trump cabinet is trying to get ahead of Trump himself though, and they don't want those numbers held against them, so I don't think they're trying to be firm and consistent. | ||
| Can I say something I've noticed? | ||
| But you'd think that as I imagine though, as ICE, they probably have a number, right? | ||
| Obviously they know how many have been deported, but I think there's probably a number that they have that's that's sort of a working operational number. | ||
| But for reasons like that and also legal reasons, they're probably not putting it out publicly. | ||
| But I think they do have enough. | ||
| But I will tell you, though, that they're striking fear in them because they're not moving around like they should. | ||
| When I go to the airports from El Paso to San Antonio, where I'm flying, it used to be packed to the gills. | ||
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| And now, dude, there's like 80 to 100 seats open and flights are like, they're cutting down the flights now. | ||
| They're not flying. | ||
| Yeah, they're not moving. | ||
| They're like in a frozen state right now. | ||
| So, but the word is on the street, you know, in El Paso, everyone's like, they're just going to wait it out till Trump is gone. | ||
| They're pretty confident that. | ||
| Yeah, that's really what they're saying. | ||
| That's exactly what they're saying. | ||
| Dude, my homie's nanny, they don't let her go to the park because they're scared she's going to get hurt. | ||
| To your point, that's why, like, my opinion is the United Federal Government or not, well, the Federal Government should come down on people that employ illegal, really hard, and people that rent housing to illegal. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Because if you, if, if their, if their, if their option or their decision is to just, uh, lock it down, that's what they're doing. | ||
| Hide, they're not going to leave. | ||
| So the next thing, because I don't, I've said this a bunch of times, I don't want to see ICE agents kicking in people's doors because if, first of all, it's bad for, it's bad for just optics, right? | ||
| Like nobody wants to see grandma or grandpa getting drugged out of their bed by guys in body armor. | ||
| That's just not something that anyone wants to see on the internet. | ||
| It upsets Karen. | ||
| Karen gets all mad. | ||
| She's at Home Depot. | ||
| She's at Walmart. | ||
| She's at. | ||
| If they're hiring people, well, just to answer his point that I've had it told to me because when Real ID was coming around and the Trump administration has sort of been, you know, they didn't come up with the, it's been on the books for, you know, a long time. | ||
| But they are sort of administering this rollout. | ||
| And I asked around and, you know, sort of on the background, yo, what's the deal? | ||
| Like this, this thing is kind of unpopular. | ||
| Why are we, you know, why are we still doing it? | ||
| And that was sort of the response that I had was, you know, they do think it's something where, look, if you're an illegal, there's no way you're walking in and you have to present all those documents to get a basic ID, to get on planes, to go, to go. | ||
| You'll be taken down right there and you're out. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So they know they can't get him. | ||
| So again, it's part of that idea of ratcheting things up. | ||
| But nobody's self-deporting. | ||
| You know, he's giving that option like, well, if you self-deport, they're not going to do that. | ||
| What do you think about this thought that people are saying, you know, some kind of stipend to self-deport? | ||
| So like they're not. | ||
| I'm telling you right now, I'm in El Paso. | ||
| I know what I'm hearing. | ||
| Nobody's self-deporting. | ||
| Nobody's taking. | ||
| I don't see. | ||
| Would they take their report as self-deporting? | ||
| No, I think they would take it. | ||
| No, because it took so long to get here. | ||
| And they're just going to wait out. | ||
| They really believe Trump is going to be gone. | ||
| Like they believe everyone's going to be fed up with him. | ||
| You got Gavin Newsom running his mouth, Beth O'Rourke. | ||
| I mean, they're like the cheerleaders amping these people these people up. | ||
| It's so wrong. | ||
| It's a humanitarian crisis, all this stuff. | ||
| They're going to wait it out. | ||
| They're going to wait it out. | ||
| And I don't see anything happening in El Paso that's any different. | ||
| I know that there have been some tunnels here and there that have been intercepted and stuff like that. | ||
| But really, from everyone that I know of, everyone's waiting it out. | ||
| Don't you think if they just crank up taxes on remittances that would force a lot of return. | ||
| But these people, I mean, they're they're living just under the radar, bro, just scraping by and they're going to stay here and just hunker down. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's what I'm just curious is what would be the incentive for them to stay if remittances or taxes on remittances are sky high. | ||
| Maybe they could do a workaround just playing. | ||
| around with just using cash. | ||
| You could use cryptocurrencies. | ||
| But it's still better here than where they came from. | ||
| Where they came from, there's murder. | ||
| There's crime, violent crime. | ||
| Families are getting killed. | ||
| The gang problem is still out of control. | ||
| Third world problems are third world problems. | ||
| You know, like coming here, it's still better. | ||
| Even if they have to be homeless. | ||
| So that's their argument. | ||
| They don't want to go back to that. | ||
| It's a terrible life. | ||
| It's a terrible life. | ||
| So we've got to think of some other ways to write. | ||
| You got to heat the pot so that the frog jumps out. | ||
| That's why you have to make it illegal to rent to them so they can't find homes. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| Make it, make it, make it illegal. | ||
| Well, not make it illegal, but punish the people that rent to them and punish the landlords. | ||
| Yeah, punish the people that employ them as well. | ||
| You know, that's the only way. | ||
| And this is something that I've talked about this a bunch of times, but this is something that Democrats say all the time. | ||
| Oh, well, why do you not go after the business owners? | ||
| Why do you not go after, yeah, go after them. | ||
| Everything. | ||
| I believe in all options. | ||
| I'm with you. | ||
| I'm with you. | ||
| This is something that I did actually ask to the ICE director earlier today. | ||
| We're going to be releasing this a little while, but sorry, you can see the whole thing on Human Events Daily, but I am going to mention what he said. | ||
| So he, you know, I said this. | ||
| I said, you know, I've noticed the way they're targeting some of these raids. | ||
| It seems that when the businesses are getting raided, it seems like you guys are actually going after the business owners even more than just the workers. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And, and like, yeah, maybe some of the workers will get rolled up. | ||
| But I said, are you targeting immigration fraud? | ||
| And they said, absolutely. | ||
| He said, he confirmed, I was surprised that he confirmed that because I haven't seen any, you know, operational statement out there saying that they're. | ||
| you know, making that the priority for ICE enforcement. | ||
| But he said, we're absolutely looking at for these flagrant, you know, and it could be a supermarket. | ||
| It could be a slaughterhouse, whatever it might be, that it's, they know the places, right? | ||
| They know the places that are doing the hiring. | ||
| They know the places that are putting out fake IDs, stolen social security numbers, this idea, oh, they don't access benefits. | ||
| Cut the crap. | ||
| Like we know they're accessing benefits. | ||
| It's not hard to get a fake social security number. | ||
| And then to your point, right? | ||
| Then their kids who, if they're born here, they get to go to school, they get to access all that, so they have sort of the indirect access to the welfare net that we have, the broader social safety net that we have in this country. | ||
| And so it's a total joke, which I think ABC was saying the other day, that they're so upset that illegal aliens are having their kids are being worried about being pulled out of school. | ||
| I said, wait a minute. | ||
| So you admit that they're accessing public benefits, even though you I will say that I've noticed the schools have less kids, man. | ||
| Like when I'm going through certain streets to get to my house, this one, it used to get flooded with kids and now it's like just like nothing. | ||
| Like, hardly any kids coming out of the school now. | ||
| So I know, I do just watching this, like take place. | ||
| Have you done any content down there? | ||
| Have you, like, gone around and filmed and stuff? | ||
| I went down to the border to show what a joke it is. | ||
| And before Trump really took it. | ||
| Well, I mean since Trump has come back. | ||
| Yeah, I was, I was, I was going down to the border and I was going to show the razor that was there that Biden put in. | ||
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| cheap razor that was there and it was a joke and i showed up and man military guys came out immediately like within two minutes and put guns to me and i was like yo wow i was like this is good good you all passed i was just checking you did that recently yeah yeah this was about three months ago okay about three months ago and i got there and they're like yeah man you can't be here this and that and i'm like i'm out dude hey i'm a trump supporter i'm a trump operational control of the border and you know what there was a dude in a camouflage tent i mean they're all sitting out there and | ||
| i didn't even see the guy and they got me and you're on the u.s i was going that way yeah you're on the u.s.i they got me real quick and they were asking me all kinds of questions like yo i was like man i was just doing content for instagram and i'm i'm out guys all good you all passed I think it was that. | ||
| How now how close to town was that? | ||
| That was, you know, where Paisano is. | ||
| You know, where exactly where we're the kind of where we build the wall that area. | ||
| Like, go down past that. | ||
| Yeah, just right off Paisano, the street Paisano. | ||
| That used to be the most dangerous stretch of freeway in America. | ||
| I remember them saying that when I was there, yeah. | ||
| It was bad. | ||
| They used to, so the, before the wall was there, they used to go put rocks or two by four s and nails and cars would hit them. | ||
| Pop, pop, pop. | ||
| And then the kids from the other side would run, could do a car jacking, kill people. | ||
| I mean, it was brutal. | ||
| So they were doing car jacking. | ||
| They were coming from Mexico doing the car jacking. | ||
| Could they? | ||
| Then they would rob the trains. | ||
| So they drive the car back or just like get the crap out of the car and shoot somebody and run back. | ||
| And it was that easy. | ||
| It happened all the time. | ||
| Absolutely insane. | ||
| Anything else you guys want to add about the Chinese students or is there anyone who wants to make, I mean, Alad gave the best steel man, but when it comes to it, look, you know, people will say, you know, MAGA is always in lockstep with Trump, but I just don't think that's the case. | ||
| I think you can point to issue after issue where that hasn't been shown. | ||
| I think this is indicative of a larger anti-immigrant, both legal and illegal trend that we're seeing on the right and then both in the elements of moderates, independents and the left as well. | ||
| I mean, we've talked about the reason though, right? | ||
| Like, so the idea that they're bringing people into the country so that they can count them in the census. | ||
| These people tend to, you know, concentrate in urban areas. | ||
| That means that you're more than likely going to have the urban areas get more people in the census. | ||
| That means more representatives in Congress, most likely Democrat representatives. | ||
| This is the reason why I don't want immigrants is because it's taking voting power away from the American people. | ||
| It has nothing to do with who they are. | ||
| Now, when it comes to the Chinese, I think they're a threat because I know that China is an adversary of the United States. | ||
| I don't have the false notion that they're just a rival or we're going to work together on something. | ||
| China doesn't look at the United States that way, and the United States cannot look at China that way because China doesn't look at us that way. | ||
| So the thing that I don't want, I want to see is no Chinese students coming in unless they're and actually, no, not at all, like none, because they're a, they're a national security threat, you know? | ||
| I think we do need to make a distinction between the CCP and the regular Chinese person. | ||
| There is no distinction. | ||
| I think there is. | ||
| China can call, China can call on people and say, look, you do this, and if you don't, we're going to, we're going to put you your family. | ||
| We're going to put your family. | ||
| We're going to put your family. | ||
| Nationalists who hate the Chinese government. | ||
| They don't, I don't think that's important because they'll go after their family in China. | ||
| Well, no, and certainly, by the way, there's obviously a distinction, but when we're talking about a lot of these colleges that are Ivy League, you do have to have the money to be able to afford this. | ||
| So typically you are getting elites and you have to be a member of the CCP, you know, or you have to have family that are members of the CCP. | ||
| And the fact, like I said, it doesn't matter what the individual thinks. | ||
| It doesn't matter because if they have family back home that they love in China, then that's where they apply the pressure. | ||
| Xi Jinping has no problem doing that. | ||
| He will put his thumb on your grandma if you don't listen. | ||
| Listen, he will put his thumb on your brother, your mom, whatever, if you don't, you know, I think he'll lock you in your, he'll lock you in your home. | ||
| It's a 100% threat to national security. | ||
| I don't think that they need to have these students here on visas, although you could argue the most important place to have them would be in the universities. | ||
| But if they want, they could, if you want to have a sophisticated Chinese spy from the CCP, you could come into the country illegally. | ||
| I'm sure it would be very easy for them to get fake documents or pretend they're another Chinese person. | ||
| We heard stories about them coming in through, coming across the Darien Gap. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Well, that's why I'm kind of arguing that they come here on student visas wouldn't be the biggest threat. | ||
| If they wanted to come in as spies, they could do so through the southern border and then infiltrate. | ||
| with their intelligence. | ||
| When you're talking about stealing research, this is, I mean, it's it's all about placement and access. | ||
| So when you're talking about spycraft, so if your P and A is already at MIT or one of these research laboratories, I mean, these universities are where the research is happening and in many cases, of course, being done with government funding or perhaps on proprietary, you know, what, what any kind of technology. | ||
| Obviously, we've talked a lot about the biotech transfer between the US and China. | ||
| So it's clearly part of a toxic relationship that we have with China, and that's why I'm against against it. | ||
| Well, they get busted in Germany, in the UK and France for this all the time too. | ||
| This is a problem in universities across the world. | ||
| And the embassy or the consulate will put pressure on the students because what they'll do is, here's how it works. | ||
| They'll track you, right? | ||
| They'll track the students and then they'll figure out, okay, what students do we have in, what classes are they in, what major are they in, and then they'll line that up with whatever their Ministry of State Security priorities are. | ||
| So your priority intelligence requirements or PIRs that we would have in the IC in the US, they've got theirs as well. | ||
| And so suddenly someone who's in the science and technology department says, hey, you've got this guy and he's making his way towards here, have him go for those files. | ||
| So it's not like it's not like someone is a spy from the start. | ||
| It's more like they're already here. | ||
| Then we find out, hey, they've got access to something we want. | ||
| Now we apply the pressure. | ||
| Yeah, they're just they're property of the CCP, regardless, you know, whether they're going to. | ||
| But I'm a little confused on something. | ||
| Is this something he just fleetingly said or is this something that he actually held a conference with and said, well, I'm going to do this. | ||
| I repeated it multiple times. | ||
| He's been asked about it in the past and said that he doesn't want to get rid of the 300,000. | ||
| He's always used strong rhetoric about against that, against expelling them. | ||
| I also think this is worth mentioning that if you zoom out for a second geopolitically., what this really speaks to is a failure in diplomacy. | ||
| This is one of the, like, not last, but it's going down the path of a failing diplomacy with China. | ||
| If we're thinking that we need not have these students be here, obviously the Trump administration thinks differently. | ||
| I think that when it comes down to it, it's, I just go back to, and to your point about the failure of diplomacy, the average person looks at it as a completely unbalanced relationship that we have with China. | ||
| So it's this huge inverse where it seems that they get all of the gain. | ||
| And what do we get? | ||
| Like cheap TVs and trinkets and balls and things. | ||
| And it's just something that ultimately. | ||
| we can see that China is getting fat and happy off of this relationship. | ||
| And by the way, prior to the tariffs, which have been largely successful, and the Chinese have eaten that, by the way, that the, you know, you could say, what are we really gaining in terms of wealth in this country? | ||
| And so, you know, Josh Simon had thrown something out earlier and said, you know, hey, why not, if we're going to do this, let's, let's tariff the students. | ||
| Let's tariff the students 200 percent. | ||
| I said, you know what? | ||
| Double it at 400 percent. | ||
| So they're already paying full tuition compared to, nobody else is paying full tuition. | ||
| Right, but that money's going, but that money goes directly to the college. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I mean, we end up subsidizing these colleges too. | ||
| So it's an additional subsidy for us. | ||
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| So it's a subsidy for the college. | ||
| So the idea being why not have something that actually benefits the country directly? | ||
| Well, it's keeping them afloat would be the argument. | ||
| Like a certain I think I've read like fifteen percent of these colleges wouldn't be able to thrive without them. | ||
| But I had one last thing I don't have I don't have I don't have I don't mind if a lot of I'm not going to get a lot of defense for a lot of the colleges in this country. | ||
| Well, my alma mater, the University of Buffalo, would probably fail if they didn't have all these foreign students. | ||
| One last bit that I wanted to add here though is that I think this is a really easy thing for nationalists on both sides to fearmonger on., and I'm guilty of that myself. | ||
| If I were a Chinese nationalist, I'd say no, I don't want to send our best and brightest over to the United States to become useful idiots and Chinese spies for the United States. | ||
| Oh, we're going to send them there for four years. | ||
| They're going to get brainwashed into all this bullshit liberal ideology. | ||
| They're going to start believing trans and gay bullshit and they're going to come bring that back here because that's what they're learning over there. | ||
| So I feel like it's easy to fear monger in that way. | ||
| Because in China, they're like, oh, this is, we went through a century of humiliation and now you're going to continue supporting those western dogs who oppressed us for all these centuries. | ||
| And you're going to support them economically. | ||
| That's where you're going to go spend all your money and you're paying top dollar to go to these schools. | ||
| So I think both sides have an argument to fear monk around here. | ||
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| Again, if in a vacuum, I think that I get what you're saying that, you know, an exchange is good. | ||
| I'd love to get to that point in the relationship at some point. | ||
| I just don't think we're there. | ||
| I just really don't think we're there. | ||
| I think we're in a point where it's a total, it's like, it's like we, we, you know, it's like the United States is, is, is like your buddy who's in a toxic relationship with this girl and he's totally, just, just simping all over her, the codependent relationship, totally simping out. | ||
| And we're like, dude, she treats you like crap. | ||
| She's always taking your stuff. | ||
| She doesn't let you do what you want. | ||
| Look what's happened to your life. | ||
| I have a few friends like that. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| We all know that. | ||
| It begs the question. | ||
| He just won't listen. | ||
| What do you think the president's thinking here is then? | ||
| If not saying he doesn't want to cancel these visas, he wants to double it. | ||
| I think he's the president thinking here. | ||
| He wants a good relationship with Xi. | ||
| Yeah, he's negotiating. | ||
| He's all about the deal, right? | ||
| Let's make it easy. | ||
| Now, I always say this, whenever he's in deal making mode, I do think that he'll throw out things like this that, and people can say like, oh, here's Posobik. | ||
| He's doing his paid thing. | ||
| No, no, no, seriously. | ||
| I think he does throw out things when he's in negotiating mode. | ||
| And obviously, we know he's working on various trade deals with China. | ||
| The tariffs have been a huge piece of this as well. | ||
| So I think it's kind of chalk it up to you sort of the Trump negotiations. | ||
| I think it's important how he said this. | ||
| I didn't I didn't see the video on this. | ||
| I don't know if he just said it fleetingly, like, God, I could entertain that. | ||
| Or was he like, no, we're going to do this. | ||
| Like, this is something I want to do. | ||
| So it all depends on how he stated this. | ||
| I think if he was just kind of like, you know, that's interesting. | ||
| I might think about doing it. | ||
| I think public opinion is generally against it. | ||
| I'm against it. | ||
| I'm against it one hundred percent. | ||
| We saw the AP last week. | ||
| They're like, we have 55 million visa holders and then they see, oh, 600,000 more. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You're just like, I don't care if they're donating me a million dollars. | ||
| That's pretty nice. | ||
| But it's like, we're keeping the universities afloat. | ||
| It's like we have 55 million to get out. | ||
| Let's 600 million. | ||
| Maybe this is a backdoor way to drain China. | ||
| They're already in a population crash. | ||
| We're taking an extra half a million of their youngest. | ||
| Australia can handle it. | ||
| We're not, I don't, I just reject the idea that we're taking them. | ||
| Like bringing them here doesn't mean they become Americans. | ||
| We're going to indoctrinate them. | ||
| No, we're not. | ||
| It just doesn't happen. | ||
| They can do that on their own. | ||
| Show me the example of that though. | ||
| That's not what I mean. | ||
| Michael, there's a ton of Chinese dissidents in the United States. | ||
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| They typically go back and they work from China and they get and they're so focused on money. | ||
| And so there's like Tibetan refuugees, there are Falun Gong refugees that come here, there are people from Hong Kong that also come from here. | ||
| And I think these are I'm not going to analyze these. | ||
| They do go to these colleges and I've seen them protest on these colleges before. | ||
| I've seen 300 people. | ||
| It might be a small number, but it's not near the majority. | ||
| Well, yeah, they're also not allowed to protest at all in China, so they're coming from a background and culture that, you know, struggles to express themselves or vote or participate politically. | ||
| I just think Trump has something up his sleeve here and we should let the guy cook. | ||
| We should let Trump cook here, guys. | ||
| Let's not freak out. | ||
| So this is the argument that was made about opening up to China from the 1980s. | ||
| And this, you know, the market, this is something I've always been critical of Margaret Thatcher and her government in the handover of Hong Kong, because it kept being this, this refrain over and over that the more we, the more exposure that we have to China, the West has to China, the more democratic they will become and they will have protest groups and you can go back forty years and this is they were saying the exact same thing. | ||
| And what have we seen? | ||
| Hong Kong, well, promised fifty years of the special, you know, two systems, one government, two systems. | ||
| And Xi Jinping just threw that out the window completely. | ||
| Then it's been a total crackdown. | ||
| China hasn't become more democratic. | ||
| If anything, we have become less, far, far less. | ||
| And I would argue that our exposure, and I would see this when I was over there, you know, briefly was at the Shanghai American Chamber of Commerce and then also worked for another firm doing business there and, you know, trying to help American businesses come into the Chinese market. | ||
| And what you would see though. | ||
| was that American business leaders and American politicians would come over and they'd see the CCP system. | ||
| And this gets what you're saying about the China model. | ||
| And they would say, oh, this is great. | ||
| So if I want a maglev, if I want a high-speed rail, like we had one in Shanghai, they have one that kind of goes from the airport almost to downtown, and they just build it. | ||
| And you say, well, what about the people who live in the way? | ||
| What about them? | ||
| You just get rid of them. | ||
| You tear down those neighborhoods. | ||
| You just blast them out and then they can go wherever. | ||
| And so to your point, right, in a system where there is no political, you know, real participation, if in a system where they don't have any rights to be able to defend that, it becomes intoxicating for Western leaders to see that system and say, how can we get some of that as well? | ||
| Yeah, but this is going to give the illegal immigrants a lot of ammunition if he does this, man, for them to protest and fight back and feel righteous and whether they stay wanting to stay here. | ||
| I mean, we have to go and they can come. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I'm just saying it's going to give them a lot of that. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| That's what they're going to say. | ||
| They're going to say, what the hell is this? | ||
| It's going to look very hypocritical. | ||
| It's going to look bad on Trump. | ||
| We already have other legal immigrants that come on through different visas. | ||
| And hey, if we can radicalize Latin America on China being a geopolitical adversary, I mean, that's a win-win. | ||
| It's a wedge issue, right? | ||
| Maybe that's what we're going to do. | ||
| I do want to keep it, want to be cognitive of the clock. | ||
| And so I want to get into this, the psycho-Sue story. | ||
| So we talked about this in the third hour yesterday in the members hour. | ||
| But Nino, I was thinking that you probably had some takes on this, given that you come from a fight background. | ||
| I mean, look, it's like they say you talked. | ||
| Now, the pro wrestling is obviously very different from what you did um pro wrestling's fake okay it's scripted it is scripted but yeah okay it's scripted but i mean like when i was in the dressroom getting ready to fight nobody told me who was going to win right they wanted to kill each other this he was not expecting that beatdown it was premeditated there was a video of uh Jackson's son rampage Jackson's son talking about I'm gonna have you seen the video where he's talking I'm gonna go up there and hit this guy man I'm gonna tag this guy saying all these all | ||
| these things it was premeditated he was not going along with any kind of script he wasn't gonna fake drop him and then fake slap him he if you see the punches land on this guy's cranium. | ||
| These are intentionally. | ||
| He was there to kill that guy, dude. | ||
| Like that was like five cents. | ||
| We're now up to 515,000 dollars. | ||
| So $3,000 extra just since we we mentioned it a couple of minutes ago. | ||
| I think that's a murder charge, bro. | ||
| Honestly, attempted murder. | ||
| I I just I'm so so so walk us through. | ||
| Especially premeditated. | ||
| Walk us through if if someone's in that situation. | ||
| You know, you've been boxing out. | ||
| There's there's no boxing gloves on in this. | ||
| So gloves are off literally. | ||
| He's down. | ||
| He's bashing you in the head. | ||
| What happened in that situation physically? | ||
| Well, he went red, right? | ||
| He went totally red, he lost his mind. | ||
| He was whatever, there was something happened before that where he smashed a camera and said he apologized, they became friends again, they were talking. | ||
| It was a prop. | ||
| It was like a prop, right. | ||
| It was like an act. | ||
| It was a planned act, yeah. | ||
| This guy took it so personal and it hurt his ego so bad, that fragile ego he has, that he went after him and what he did was uncalled for, man. | ||
| And then plus the guy wasn't expecting it. | ||
| You can go up, I've seen that, I've seen this happen. | ||
| You've probably seen it happen to where guys go up to other guys and it's called stealing their soul or snatching their soul, where you go up to a guy in a club and bam, whack him, knock him out, he's out snoring and you just disappear into the crowd that happened all the time he kind of did that to this guy the guy was not expecting this he got picked up slammed and then when he's there pretending to be like he's out then he starts getting punches delivered to his face that's uncalled for and it was premeditated and there's proof that it was premeditated by him talking about it on the phone to whoever he was talking to someone was recording him say all this so | ||
| to me how is this in this is this could be like an attempted murder charge that kind of damage what do you say it's attempted murder is it how likely is it that he could have died oh so easy it's a hair man like i mean i'm surprised he didn't with those the blows he took to the head honestly i've seen guys die in sparring, get hit wrong and bap, they're out, ambulance comes or are gone. | ||
| I've seen it happen in the gym. | ||
| And those are with 16 ounce gloves, sometimes 18 ounce. | ||
| I mean, there are heavyweights given, but I mean, I've seen that happen in when I knocked out Owen Beck, he was out for like almost thirty minutes when I knocked him out with a left hook and he was bleeding out of his eyes and his ears. | ||
| And I thought I took a knee, the crowd got silent, I was scared to death and I think that also affected my career, to be quite honest. | ||
| But that was intentional. | ||
| What he did was intentional. | ||
| He went in there and he dropped that guy on his head and it looked like he tried to kill him. | ||
| Now to me. | ||
| And he's using his training. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And the guy was not expecting that. | ||
| So I gotta call it what it is. | ||
| And I think everyone has seen it. | ||
| And it looks like he's trying to kill the man. | ||
| Just because it's with your fists, that's still doing a lot of damage. | ||
| Now he's, by the way, we're up to 116,500. | ||
| I just refreshed in. | ||
| So donations are pouring in. | ||
| That's awesome. | ||
| I love this. | ||
| So is he in coma or she's awake? | ||
| So no, I thought they said he was awake. | ||
| Is he awake? | ||
| Okay, my bad. | ||
| I thought they said let me, I'm just scrolling down. | ||
| Sometimes they put updates on here. | ||
| I mean, we can find out what we can. | ||
| He is, by the way, he's a veteran of the United States Army. | ||
| And this is crazy. | ||
| So he was using wrestling as an outlet to deal with his PTSD. | ||
| Now, one thing that I want to say. | ||
| Now, I mentioned this yesterday on. | ||
| the third hour was that there was an affiliation between this independent promotion and the WWE. | ||
| So this is a situation. | ||
| I gotta say, they could potentially be looking at a lawsuit, a huge lawsuit from Psycho Stu here if he wanted to pursue that route because, you know, I'm sure you gotta sign waivers. | ||
| I'm gonna so like when you were boxing, did you ever have to sign waivers with the promoter before they put it on? | ||
| So, hey, sign half the contracts I signed. | ||
| I didn't even know what was it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No wonder I got screwed. | ||
| But I mean, I mean, no, I mean, there were times that weigh in, honestly, that that i that i remember the tension was so bad all of a sudden we just started throwing punches like you just you can't predict it it just happens you know but but uh i never looked at a guy and i was like premeditating like i'm gonna just go up and just you know sometimes you're you're staring at each other and then they can't part you and the next thing you know you're like well we got to take this to the next level because i'm not backing down you're not backing down it's on and then we just start fighting that happens it's just the nature of the beast it's the nature of the sport it's just what it is but | ||
| What I saw in that video is premeditated. | ||
| He did it without the guy knowing. | ||
| The guy didn't know that he was going to come get slammed. | ||
| Maybe he knew. | ||
| So what you're saying is it's not like one of those weigh-in situations where the tension raises up because he was planning to do that before he got the way. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It was premeditated. | ||
| The guy was unsuspected. | ||
| He had his back turned to him. | ||
| He probably knew he was going to go, okay, he's going to come in in the ring, pick me up, slam me, and then whatever. | ||
| He trusted in him. | ||
| Whatever the set of moves was. | ||
| So he had a trust factor in that kid. | ||
| Like, okay, I know he's probably going to come pick me up, slam me, and then whatever move we decide to do. | ||
| He does a body slam at first. | ||
| Right, and then we're going to script whatever happens after that, but he didn't. | ||
| Bam, bam, bam, bam, and started going to town on the guy. | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| I mean, that's coward. | ||
| To me, that means coward. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know how you all look at it, but to me, that's a coward move. | ||
| There was a lot of, if I understand correctly, there was a lot of people in his chat after the initial bit, I think. | ||
| Yeah, this is what we were talking about last night. | ||
| They were calling him names, saying that he was, you know, calling him all kinds of names and basically. | ||
| Rampage. | ||
| No, no, Raj is. | ||
| Yeah, Raj. | ||
| So because he's a big kick streamer, and they were saying last night that, that's what Andrew Wilson was here last night, and what he was saying was that, I feel like Tim all of a sudden here, because I'm explaining drama, that, don't worry, Tim, I got you, buddy. | ||
| That his chat was egging him on to do it, you going to let him punk you like that? | ||
| How are you going to let him get you like that? | ||
| You got got, you know, he he'd smash that beer in your head. | ||
| You're just going to let him do that. | ||
| How old is he? | ||
| And he's twenty. | ||
| Yeah, he's super young. | ||
| You know, I'd say he's twenty, something like that. | ||
| You're in twenty, Pete. | ||
| Yeah, he's even younger than me. | ||
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| So he's like 20, 21, maybe 22, is he? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'm just going to say 25. | ||
| 25, yeah. | ||
| You know, to me that's still a kid. | ||
| Ah, Tate's like he's super young. | ||
| He's older than me. | ||
| I also feel like Twitch streamers, kick streamers, this is just the concentration of the world's lowest impulse control. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like every single person on there is just like a ticking time bomb. | ||
| So it's actually kind of a miracle. | ||
| We don't see stuff. | ||
| Someone in the chat here was saying I was one of the people on his channel. | ||
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No. | |
| I don't think he was charged. | ||
| Wouldn't you have more respect? | ||
| yeah. | ||
| But wouldn't you have more respect for him? | ||
| I believe they said, I believe they said under investigation. | ||
| Where did this Phil, where did this happen again? | ||
| I'm not sure where it happened. | ||
| Was it, was it, was it, I thought it was, it was Knox Pro. | ||
| Not well, I don't think it's Knoxville, but it was the Knox. | ||
| It's Knox County. | ||
| It'd be crazy, it was Knox County with Glenn Jacobs. | ||
| But I would have had more respect for the kid if you had challenged him, grabbed the mic and said, let's go right now, me and you, and then Mano and Mano, then go, then okay, but maybe, maybe. | ||
| But that's kind of the whole point of it, right? | ||
| But like he did it so unsuspectingly. | ||
| Then what else is LAPD? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So I'm no tough guy.y. | ||
| What was that one that? | ||
| Yeah, it was in LA. | ||
| I'm no tough guy, obviously, but there's no honor here in cheap shotting someone. | ||
| I think if you're a man about it, or I don't know, there's some sort of fighter's honor of like, let's actually fight it. | ||
| It's not a code. | ||
| You're not trying to hit people when they're unconscious, I don't think. | ||
| So, I mean, all of his hits were dirty as far as I'm concerned. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| And I don't really know what else to say. | ||
| I hope he gets charged. | ||
| I saw Rampage's response and considering Raj's his kid, he actually had a really good response. | ||
| Like, he's like, I'm not going to condemn my kid, but he was dead., but like, you know, I would have. | ||
| I love him. | ||
| And I, well, he was, he was like, he's dead. | ||
| He was definitely wrong in doing it. | ||
| So he was, he was clear about that. | ||
| But it was, you know, like, I mean, you know, you're a father. | ||
| You don't want to sit there and you're not going to get on the internet, Jack. | ||
| If that's not going to get on the internet and beat up on you. | ||
| Well, I mean, it depends on what you mean by condemn, right? | ||
| If that, if that were my son, it would have walked him down to the police station and said, you need to, you need to face for what you did. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| That's, that's, that's as a father, right? | ||
| Is you have to own up to your mistakes. | ||
| So if you, if you, if you did something, right? | ||
| Number one, obviously you owe an apology. | ||
| But number two, you still owe, you have to pay a debt. | ||
| So a debt must be paid here, whether it's society to society, whether it's to the man directly. | ||
| Like Rampage needs to give him a good old. | ||
| That's, oh yeah. | ||
| Good old. | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Adrian Penner, I would treat me with the sweat. | ||
| I would take my kid to the woodshed, you know. | ||
| You know, maybe, maybe, maybe, you know, metaphysically over, over something like not, not like that. | ||
| But no way. | ||
| No, it's that's something where, and by the way, I wouldn't be tweeting about it, you know, like if something like this had happened, I mean, God forbid. | ||
| But you, I mean, I have to say, you know, it just, it feels to me like this is something that it's, it feels like bad parenting. | ||
| It does feel like bad parenting. | ||
| To underscore, I think, a part of this that we didn't address. | ||
| Well, the biggest issue I think at hand here was his ego control. | ||
| He couldn't control his ego. | ||
| He felt like someone had won over him, someone had embarrassed him, and he needed to get revenge. | ||
| He wasn't able to swallow his pride. | ||
| And I think that could be a lesson for other people to check your ego, and, you know, having your ego all wound up could get you in some deep shit. | ||
| You would think that he understood that he's in the wrestling world. | ||
| This is a job. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, and that's what I mean. | ||
| Like, the bit was a job. | ||
| It was after he listened to people, I'm not going to get God anymore. | ||
| Nor is that going to happen anymore. | ||
| It was like, who instigated that? | ||
| The kids on the social media, agging him on. | ||
| So he was probably looking at all these comments going, I'm like, oh man, I gotta do something. | ||
| I can't go down the street. | ||
| Which is ridiculous. | ||
| It's an ego problem to know what was going on. | ||
| Like he, you're supposed to go into that scenario, understanding how it goes. | ||
| This is a he was a work, and that's a wrestling term I'm using. | ||
| It was a work. | ||
| He was supposed to take the hit. | ||
| Then he was going to get him back in the ring. | ||
| He would knock the guy down, and then those hits aren't supposed to be actually real, but he went. | ||
| Which by the way, is that real? | ||
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Exactly. | |
| He's the one because, you know, when you look at it, Psycho Stu in the, in the angle, right, in the narrative, he's the one that kind of cold cocks him with the beer outside so it's almost like he was the one taking the cheap shot so I don't know exactly that was part of the work right that's part of the script thing but what I'm saying is it if he was the one doing that then it would have been setting up Raja to kind of be the baby face right to setting him up as a good guy in that where he's the heel so he's the villain and then Raja is going to defeat the villain | ||
| in the ring right like correct what we're trying to accomplish but he took it massive personally and went out there for a vendetta and just tried to kill the man right and it's and it's it's and I do believe he never should be punished by the law for this I really do I don't see how you walk from this by the way I think stuff like this happens ever every day, every week on a smaller scale in dumb bar fights and people fighting outside of convenience stores and people shooting each other because one person passes him by, steps on his shoes, calls him a name. | ||
| People's sensitive egos and fragile egos lead to, unfortunately, a lot of senseless violence in our country Yeah, | ||
| that was all just earlier. | ||
| I was out here. | ||
| You had a Tate Lynch. | ||
| Oh dude, yeah, these West Virginia Knights, man, they get a little wild. | ||
| They wack you out. | ||
| These Cracker Barrels get wild. | ||
| By the way, Tate, can I see your knife? | ||
| Yeah, just don't worry, it's British approved. | ||
| Oh, okay, all right. | ||
| Well, and hey, Segway here because we're talking about British approved knives. | ||
| This, this, one of the other stories that I've just seen everywhere, absolutely everywhere. | ||
| That was good. | ||
| I want to, it actually was a good swag. | ||
| I'm getting better at this. | ||
| We don't have a ton of details in terms of names, in terms of everything that's going on, but this was something that was tearing up the interwebs yesterday and ev magazine the great uh ladies over at ev magazine have put this together 14 year old girl from scotland charged after carrying weapons Now, | ||
| that's an interesting headline because if you look at the video, you perhaps might come away with another idea about who it is, who should be charged, who is the aggressor, and who is the one doing something. | ||
| Do we have, Search, do we have the actual video? | ||
| Can we just play this? | ||
| If I hit that, will it just play? | ||
| Alright, I'm literally just driving now because this is... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| All right, I'll take it back. | ||
| So you got this is in Scotland, two girls, I think one is we know one is 14, I think one's the young is the older one 14? | ||
| Older one. | ||
| Yeah, the older one's 18. | ||
| There's someone holding her back. | ||
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Hey, I'm fucking helping. | |
| You're fucking bad and cats me. | ||
| Why are you fucking with us? | ||
| These are fucking cat bashers. | ||
| So don't lie, so don't lie. | ||
| So don't lie. | ||
| Get away from us. | ||
| So don't lie. | ||
| So don't lie. | ||
| Don't touch us. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| So don't lie. | ||
| She's an accident, isn't it? | ||
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So don't lie. | |
| That's the I'm not getting raped face. | ||
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her inventory is loaded yeah yeah Yeah, who is she yelling at? | |
| So she's yelling at, and I, is this it? | ||
| No, there's another angle of it where it's basically two migrants. | ||
| that are coming at her and she's trying to again we're told that she is trying to get away from them and pushes back on this. | ||
| It brings up a lot of stories about the grooming gangs that have gone up before. | ||
| Okay, I'm not seeing those pictures. | ||
| Search, see if you can find the other angle of it. | ||
| But going back to the going back to the article, she has now been charged. | ||
| So the police get called, she has now been charged for brandishing weapons, rather a bladed weapon, by the way. | ||
| This happened in Dundee and you know a little bit about that. | ||
| So she's been charged for brandishing weapons to try to defend herself against people who were harassed. | ||
| Oh, there it is. | ||
| There it is. | ||
| Yeah, those are the guys here. | ||
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I don't know how much I zoom I can get, but they've already assaulted her, right? | |
| They've already they don't know. | ||
| We don't know. | ||
| So I think she's trying to prevent them whatever they were doing. | ||
| She's clearly saying, get away from me. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I mean, man. | ||
| Well, Scotland's Scotland's a weird experiment because England's obviously had this Boris wave of migrants, but they have, what, fifty million people? | ||
| Scotland has six. | ||
| So it's like you flood the, you flood, now it's five point five million. | ||
| So it's like, it doesn't take that many migrants to completely change the look of a city. | ||
| In the, in which case Dundee, which is already a pretty rough place, you introduce just a couple hundred migrants. | ||
| It's really going to destroy the social trust of the city. | ||
| And that's what you're saying here. | ||
| So you've been there though. | ||
| Yeah, I've been to Dundee. | ||
| How long ago? | ||
| The last time I was there it would have been last spring. | ||
| So the spring of the previous year. | ||
| Oh, it's not long ago at all. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So very recently. | ||
| And you were saying you saw some migrants, but not as much as in other places? | ||
| Yeah, I mean compared to like Glasgow and Edinburgh, you don't see as much. | ||
| Like Dundee is still a very Scottish place, but it's a more working class town. | ||
| They already had, they had drug, drug issues, unfortunately. | ||
| And like I said, the migrants coming to Scotland, that's even after the Boris wave, it doesn't take very many to destabilize places like Dundee. | ||
| These are not very big cities at all. | ||
| The first time I ever went to Scotland was, I think, in 20084, 2005, and then the last time I was there was in 2019 and it's noticeably different. | ||
| If you go to Govan in Glasgow, like twenty years ago, it was 100% Scottish. | ||
| It was like an Irish Catholic neighborhood. | ||
| And you go there now and it literally feels like the Middle East and it's like, you know, you see these things at London. | ||
| It's like even in London it still feels to some degree reminiscent of England. | ||
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Like Govan, you have like people feeling animals. | |
| A lot of London feels like that. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, look, it's like it's unbelievable in Glasgow. | ||
| Yeah, I've been, I haven't been to Scotland. | ||
| I've been to Dublin though on the Irish side and it's the same people that are there have absolutely been abused by their government because they don't they didn't ask for this. | ||
| They were never there was no vote. | ||
| Yeah, they vote against it all the time and the government does nothing at all about the violence that the migrants are bringing in and you've got both the UK or both England and Scotland are subject to the same thing. | ||
| I think it's up the same kind of thing is going on in Ireland. | ||
| I'm not sure how bad. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I mean, these people have to deal with this. | ||
| They have to deal with basically changing the whole face of the country. | ||
| If they say, oh, we don't like this or if they post about it. | ||
| on Facebook, they go to jail. | ||
| Yeah, well you're seeing like in Northern Ireland, the Protestants and Catholics coming together. | ||
| I mean, do you know how, how existencial a threat has to be to bury that hatchet? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Oh, in this case, there's a hatchet involved as well. | ||
| But I mean, yeah, it's totally, totally insane. | ||
| They're changing the entire composition of a country before our very eyes and they're doing it very rapidly. | ||
| Completely engineered, right? | ||
| And they wanted to do that here. | ||
| They were trying to do that here too. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| And I mean, we have to pull up some of the memes that people are making to stand in solidarity. | ||
| We don't know her name. | ||
| There's no GoFundMe or anything in terms of this, but people are just pointing it out. | ||
| I'm surprised no one's done the Braveheart meme yet. | ||
| The internet is so crazy. | ||
| They've done that. | ||
| Have you seen the Braveheart? | ||
| I haven't seen it. | ||
| I've seen her with the... | ||
| They keep the pants on, but the kilt, the same. | ||
| The show. | ||
| Here's one. | ||
| This is great. | ||
| From SKS Cartoon. | ||
| Make sure you go follow him. | ||
| Why aren't there any men helping us? | ||
| Britain has no men. | ||
| We're on our own. | ||
| That's really poignant. | ||
| Why are there no men that will stand up and say, this is unacceptable? | ||
| There is, but they're all in jail, like at Southport. | ||
| As soon as anybody tried to do something about it, they throw you in jail and don't explain it. | ||
| We know what's crazy is, isn't it... | ||
| I think it's today or yesterday was the five year anniversary of Kyle Rittenhouse. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I saw that was going around a lot. | ||
| And I remember when that happened live, I was watching it live. | ||
| I remember, obviously, I've come to Oak Hill, I've covered the case, et cetera. | ||
| And this was the exact same argument that I kept making. | ||
| They were like, why is a 17-year-old out there doing this? | ||
| Like, why is he the only one out there? | ||
| Where are the adults? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, where are the adults? | ||
| Where are the people who put him in a situation where he's thinking somebody's going to be 17, right? | ||
| 16, 17, 17. | ||
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Wow. | |
| You're 17. | ||
| So not much older than this girl. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He became a man overnight just like that. | ||
| I mean, he's a man. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, yeah, yeah. | ||
| What happened to that kid now? | ||
| It's like we all should have been there. | ||
| He does he does work in the two A community. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Yeah, and I mean, the UK is kind of an interesting case too. | ||
| Like they actually have more of a propensity to push back on these sorts of things. | ||
| I think probably because it's denser areas, it's easier to organize quickly versus the United States. | ||
| But the UK cracks down much harder. | ||
| I mean, you tweet the wrong thing and you're gone. | ||
| They did the studio ghibli me. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I mean, the people. | ||
| Yeah, there's the brave art. | ||
| The people in... | ||
| Unfortunately, you know, you can't and they've allowed their government to imprison people. | ||
| Like there are enough people that can stand up and go stand outside of the magistrate's office and say, let those guys out of jail. | ||
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Right? | |
| Like if if I if someone goes because this one, this, there it is. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| That's not necessarily braveheart. | ||
| It's sort of a crusader. | ||
| It's a crusader chic. | ||
| But even still, I mean, it's sentiments there. | ||
| Yeah, Joan of Arc is the one that comes to mind. | ||
| It just seems like a Joan of Arc. | ||
| Just think how close we were to being like that as a society if Kamala would have won, dude. | ||
| I mean, seriously, think of the chaos, how crazy things would have been. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, well, the UK is interesting because it does feel like a testing ground for what they want to implement. | ||
| Oh, yeah, it is. | ||
| To a large degree. | ||
| It will be worse here because they're not going to be able to get rid of it. | ||
| Be careful, just like scrolling through Twitter on this, you know, you never know what's going to pop up. | ||
| Seriously, the fact that the United States has so many guns, you're not getting rid of them. | ||
| So things like this, it wouldn't just be, you know, some girl fighting with knives, and it also means that the aggressive people that are, that are looking to violate other people's rights, they're going to have guns as well. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So you're going to like the idea of a civil war or something that turns into, you know, serious problems, like it would be much worse in the United States than in the UK. | ||
| Oh, much worse. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, and also the sources of migration, uh, that's what separates Europe from the US is most of our migration over the last few decades has been from Latin America, which culturally obviously still different, but more similar to the US versus Europe. | ||
| It's coming from the Middle East and North Africa, a vastly different civilization. | ||
| Well, now the US is starting to get migrants from the Middle East, North Africa and also South Asia who are dramatically different from us. | ||
| And so the UK is a bit of a trailer for that. | ||
| They're setting up whole communities in Texas like Plano. | ||
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| All Sharia Muslims. | ||
| I mean, it's crazy, like massive communities being funded by deer, all of them connected to deerborn different cities in America, all interconnected. | ||
| I mean, it was about to kick off here, I think. | ||
| And then I think Trump man came in and what he's doing right now with the troops and everything he's doing is exactly what I voted for. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, exactly. | ||
| Well, in Texas you get the big monkey statue. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, it's like, you know, it's great. | ||
| It's like, oh, this won't stand in Texas, but it's like, it's happening everywhere. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So it's like, you could say, Oh, well, let Zoran, you know, sink New York City. | ||
| It's like, there's monkey statues in Texas. | ||
| Like, this is a nationwide problem. | ||
| Well, that what Trump's doing right now with the cleanup is the cure has to be greater than the disease. | ||
| It just does. | ||
| And that's what he's doing. | ||
| The cure right now is that, and, you know, people can say what they want, but he's doing exactly what we voted him in for.? | ||
| Yeah, so it's like, I mean, the UK, the UK is in serious, serious trouble. | ||
| I mean, like I said earlier, they're able to organize a bit quicker just because of how their society and communities are structured. | ||
| But, I mean, the fact you can't even tweet like very, very innocent stuff going to jail. | ||
| I mean, I agree with you, like the men do need to be stepping up. | ||
| But like I said earlier, a lot of the men that have stepped up are in jail. | ||
| Because, like, you saw with Southport, now you're seeing it where they're Because you can't even whisper something when you go to jail. | ||
| You can't even hang a Saint George's cross up on a lamp post. | ||
| That's how they get to jail. | ||
| They're always like all the guys that are doing that, right. | ||
| Always wearing a ass to conceal their identity and stuff. | ||
| With all the problems we have in the US, it's like, that is not something you have to do. | ||
| Well, here's the thing., if you do defend the girl, here's what happens. | ||
| You become the next Daniel Penny, or I think there was just a story of some guy in Germany who defended some chick that was on a bus or something. | ||
| It was America. | ||
| It turned up into a slice, a slice of cake. | ||
| It was America. | ||
| The face was all cut up. | ||
| You become the next Daniel Penny, but you don't have the same outcome as Daniel Penny because the jury put you in jail for the rest of your life. | ||
| That's the best case. | ||
| Worst case is you just get stabbed or killed and nobody praises you more or less, or you're demonized if anything goes wrong. | ||
| There's a there's a lot that goes on and specifically in Scotland, I know it well that happens incidents like this happening in Glasgow and Edinburgh and Dundee and Aloha. | ||
| And it's kind of off the books a little bit, like this stuff kind of gets resolved away from the peering eyes of cameras and that sort of thing. | ||
| This just happened to be an incident where it's been captured. | ||
| It's time there's some pushback off camera. | ||
| It's time for the CIA to start running guns to England, to the underground in England. | ||
| The CIA has done it. | ||
| The CIA has done it all over the world. | ||
| They can do it in the UK. | ||
| Start, you know, let's get on top of each other. | ||
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If there's anyone in Langley listening, you know, watching regime change, I can get behind this. | |
| So, I mean, look, I'm telling you, man, you go and you take back the UK, right? | ||
| We should go and mass in France, go over the channel, take back the UK, and then we're head heading to Jerusalem. | ||
| Yeah, like, you know, I'm of English stock. | ||
| The UK is kind of like my Israel in a lot of ways. | ||
| It's kind of the holy land. | ||
| You know, you go there. | ||
| You guys have a wall over there. | ||
| Well, English breakfast. | ||
| It feels connected. | ||
| It's Hadrian's wall. | ||
| Yeah, Hadrian's wall. | ||
| So it's a beautiful thing Right. | ||
| It's not doing its job. | ||
| You know, put a few extra feet on it. | ||
| But this reminds me a little bit of the funniest thing that Tim's ever said. | ||
| It was the after show. | ||
| And then he had like a caller from Ireland saying that he wants to immigrate to the United States. | ||
| And he was like, no, stay in Ireland. | ||
| And like, if there were enough immigrants that went to Ireland, like, they'd take over and they'd take over and they take back Northern Ireland unlike you native Irish people who would never have the boss to do that. | ||
| It was the most audacious thing. | ||
| It was like, yo, make Ireland great again. | ||
| Yeah, it was a very damn moment. | ||
| I was like, yeah, that's my boss. | ||
| I miss that guy, huh? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| No, there's there's there's there's a lot going on. | ||
| We covered, we covered a protest that was going on in Kerry in Ireland not too long ago and they had tens of thousands of people were out and it was on remigration. | ||
| It was about take back Ireland. | ||
| Conor McGregor, of course, has been out, you know, very much outspoken on this, you know, kind of flirting with the idea of even running for president, talking about this kind of thing that we need to take back Ireland for the Irish. | ||
| And it's it's really amazing, right? | ||
| When you look at places like Ireland, like Scotland, that have fought for their independence for so long and have fought tooth and nail, right? | ||
| So Ireland, you know, an example, has fought the British for, you know, hundreds of years in, in, you know, if you look at the totality of it, in order to get back their Ireland, to get their island back. | ||
| And then they'll sit there and say, Oh, but we also have, you know, have to let in, you know, so many people. | ||
| Oh, well, the Irish went everywhere. | ||
| So sure Jesus. | ||
| Sure Jesus, we should be, we should be allowing them to come here. | ||
| And you're like, Wait, what? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's just ridiculous. | ||
| Isn't that a part of Catholicism and like there are a lot of different Catholic charities and as I understand in our country who do want to advance a lot more What's up? | ||
| Immigration of Catholicism. | ||
| But it's based on faith. | ||
| There are readings of it, but I would say I would argue that those are false interpretations. | ||
| But yes, certainly Catholicism. | ||
| A lot of false interpretations, but very common false interpretations. | ||
| Certainly Catholic charities, yeah. | ||
| There's Catholic charities, there's Lutherans, there's other religions have this as well. | ||
| So it's, you know, it's one that's a huge, huge problem where where they come in. | ||
| I don't know how big they are specifically in Ireland. | ||
| It wouldn't surprise me though. | ||
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If it was also going on, Pope Leo's for immigration, right? | |
| I mean, that's what he's Yeah, Pope Leo has said that he's for immigration, he's for, you know, for open borders and he's he's spoken out and it's like for all of the good that I think that he said about other things that, you know, one of the things that and, you know, CNN was, you know, because we covered the conclave over there in Rome and they were they were coming to me for saying, look, you know, I don't think this is the conservative candidate that conservatives wanted and that's and I get all my, all my TradCath bros be like, what do you mean? | ||
| You know, he's, you know, he's got the vestments and he's like open to the Latin mass and this and he's good on same-sex marriage and he's good on abortion. | ||
| I think he was perfectly right. | ||
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I say, yeah, but it's going to go against the issue. | |
| Borders is the issue. | ||
| He hasn't really been coming out against Trump, to be fair. | ||
| He hasn't really been. | ||
| No, I mean open statements. | ||
| The ones about open borders, immigration. | ||
| What do you think that says to us? | ||
| He's been undercutting, for sure. | ||
| But he hasn't been in the way Francis was. | ||
| I mean, right, right. | ||
| He hasn't been this direct. | ||
| But at the same time, open borders and mass migration is the seminal. | ||
| issue of our time. | ||
| There's no, and there's no question specifically in the West. | ||
| And if you're going to sit there and act like it's not an issue. | ||
| And it's a, it's part of the globalist agenda, right? | ||
| One hundred percent. | ||
| It's destabilization of our countries. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so he's kind of like an opposing vector to Trump, which is kind of like they've chosen this guy from Chicago, they bring him in, he wants open borders. | ||
| I'm surprised he hasn't been as voiced as I mean, I haven't really heard much from him. | ||
| Like I thought he was going to be much more of a thorn in Trump's side than he is. | ||
| Well, there was a read on that, but one of the other big issues too is that the Vatican's kind of broke right now, and church collections have been down, revenues. | ||
| The Vatican's broke? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Holy wow. | ||
| I never thought I'd ever hear that. | ||
| Go, go check out some of the Vatican Bank scandals that have gone on lately. | ||
| The huge London real estate scandals they've been involved in. | ||
| Just, just, you know, the money's down. | ||
| Money's down. | ||
| So worldwide for the Catholics. | ||
| And, you know, they can point to numbers that have been church growth in Africa and South America, but that hasn't led to the type of money that you'd need to come in. | ||
| And in places like where I'm from, the Philadelphia area, I mean, we just, you see churches closing every day. | ||
| Yeah, less and less people are going and more people are on Zoom and more people are doing it. | ||
| Yeah, and so, and so one of the reasons, one of the other reasons that they wanted to choose an American Pope is because, you know, given the combativeness that Pope Francis had and a lot of the confusion, I think that a lot of his policies were going towards some of those really big dollars America's America's the world's largest economy. | ||
| Are you Catholics? | ||
| I am, yeah. | ||
| So I was raised, I was an altar boy. | ||
| Oh, there you go. | ||
| Yeah, so was I. And so they want to get more access to that American big dollar market. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| And they think you get an American that's someone who can walk right at Villanova University, which is in the Philly area. | ||
| So I almost went to Villanova, you know, where he went as a bachelor. | ||
| So I mean, it's a huge, huge Catholic. | ||
| You attend church? | ||
| Do you go to church? | ||
| Every week, yeah. | ||
| Really, see, I wish you'd be better than that, better man than I. I mean, I try to read the Bible as much as I can, but yeah, I mean, I've kind of fallen away from the Catholic Church at least. | ||
| Check out, check out Latin Mass. | ||
| Check out Latin Mass. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| It's like the old school, it's hardcore, right? | ||
| No English. | ||
| Well, the homily, like the story in English. | ||
| But it's way more traditional and I think a lot more solemn than the modern Vatican II. | ||
| Okay, so you are for this Pope or against this Pope? | ||
| I see a lot of good in terms of some of those traditional items, but I just think he's got to get his head right on immigration. | ||
| I think it's the biggest issue. | ||
| So I mean, I think it's worth mentioning too that I know a Jewish person talking a lot about Catholicismholicism is a little bit different than the global brand of Catholicism. | ||
| The American Catholicism is a lot more right wing than global Catholicism. | ||
| It's worth mentioning that there's different strains even in America though. | ||
| No, but worldwide, generally, as I understand, our version, our American version of Catholicism is a little bit more right-wing. | ||
| I think it's also worth mentioning, forty percent of Catholics are from Latin America. | ||
| So I feel like it would make sense for the Pope to be very open to immigration. | ||
| And towards people in Latin America and East America. | ||
| And he spent a ton of his career as a priest down in Peru. | ||
| It makes sense because that's where global Catholicism, I'm reading right now, there's 500 some odd million Catholics in Latin America. | ||
| That's huge growth in South America, Latin America and in Africa, but at the same time, and Asia as well. | ||
| But at the same time, they just don't have the economic pull that Americans do. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm saying it stands to reason why there would be some, you know, religious affinity for Latin Americans who are Catholic and that Catholic organizations in our country would want to try to reach out to these people and help them because they believe in Jesus and they believe the same things they do and on a religious affiliation. | ||
| So what's great though is that, you know, and you do have these different strains of political thought arising from Catholicism and that, you know, for, for, like the Trad Caths, you know, we would kind of point more towards Cardinal Sarah, who is African, but he and a Cardinal of the Church, but he would say, you know, people should go back to their home countries because this dilution is causing confusion, it's causing destabilization, it's causing all the issues. | ||
| But if you were, if you were a globalist, wouldn't he be the perfect pick, Pope Leo? | ||
| Wouldn't he be the perfect plant to go against Trump? | ||
| I mean, give the immigrants the righteous indignation to fight against against Trump, to feel righteous about what they're doing. | ||
| Choose a guy that's from Chicago, choose a Pope that's open borders. | ||
| Do you get what I'm saying? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That to me, that's just like the perfect plant. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| And I, you know, that's how I see it, you know. | ||
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| I mean, conspiracy theorists, but that's what I see. | ||
| I mean, really, that's what you're saying. | ||
| It's good for the Catholic brands, personally. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I mean, well, it's kind of what you're saying. | ||
| Like, you get this thing online where you'll see, especially like, really Trad Cat types like chess beat, and they'll post a map showing, like, how widespread Catholicism has become in the United States. | ||
| But then it overlaps with, like, migration from Latin America over the last thirty years. | ||
| So it's like, because if you look at it broadly, if you look at the demographics of the United States, the religious demographics., there's been a huge outflow of Catholics into non denominational churches. | ||
| In my opinion, it doesn't matter if there's an influx or an uptick in how many Catholics there are, if too many of them are liberation theology Catholics. | ||
| Sure, which is what you get from South America. | ||
| Yeah, which is exactly, yeah. | ||
| That's just leftism. | ||
| Like having Is that true? | ||
| I'm not familiar with liberation theology. | ||
| It's leftist. | ||
| That's the brand of leftist infiltration of the Catholic Church using the word of God to forward leftist agendas. | ||
| I mean, it's because Marxism, when Marxism goes to to different areas, what it does is it adapts to whatever the climate of that area is, right? | ||
| The political climate, the cultural climate. | ||
| And so because Latin America was and South America were already Catholic, they said, okay, well, we're going to combine through, like, almost like a, uh, this does syncretalism, this idea of, okay, we're going to put it's, it's what's Catholic and we're supporting the rights of the people to migrate, but it's also Marxist, right? | ||
| Which is, which is weird because It seems contradictory. | ||
| It seems contradictory because typically when the Marxists do take it, it is contradictory. | ||
| The very first thing they do in places like, oh,, I don't know, Catholic France or Catholic Spain, or start killing the priests and raping the nuns on the altar and smashing churches. | ||
| And you see that this is in Mexico. | ||
| They do it again and again and again. | ||
| But to your point, it's this other strain of Marxism that's infiltrating through the church. | ||
| When people say that Marxism will take over whatever you love and wear it like a skin suit, that's not just a figure of speech. | ||
| That is how Marxism operates. | ||
| Well, they've done it to the churches. | ||
| They've done it to the churches. | ||
| But they've also done it to the mainline churches in the US. | ||
| I mean, you look at historically who were the founding fathers? | ||
| They're like episcopalians, they're presbyterian. | ||
| And you look at those denominations now. | ||
| And it's like, that's where you get the Pride flags, the lesbian preachers and everything. | ||
| Like a sort of legal nightmare. | ||
| I was at the National Prayer Service that right after Trump got inaugurated with JD Vance, and we had the female bishop in the National Cathedral. | ||
| And I was like, well, you know, okay, first time seeing a lady priest. | ||
| Let's see how this goes. | ||
| And then, and what does she do? | ||
| Isn't she talking trash to Trump right there? | ||
| Yeah, she starts giving a homily or a sermon. | ||
| She gives a sermon saying that people that no one is illegal and people shouldn't be deported. | ||
| And you can see the president kind of sitting there like, what's going on? | ||
| And we're just we're just a couple of rows back and it got really very uncomfortable. | ||
| Uncomfortable for everybody. | ||
| What is he going to do something? | ||
| So, to credit to him, being a gentleman, he didn't say anything or do anything at the time. | ||
| But I think even before he made it back to the White House, he's up on Truth Social. | ||
| Yeah, he went right at it. | ||
| But that's what the Marxists are doing, right? | ||
| They're taking, they're taking over the schools, indoctrination camps, the churches. | ||
| It's all captured operations. | ||
| All captured operations. | ||
| I mean, every institution and organization now has been captured and we're trying to untangle that web right now with Trump. | ||
| and break free from this. | ||
| Well, while we're talking about that, we had a huge debate last night about freedom of speech and whether burning a flag constitutes freedom of speech. | ||
| This is going viral. | ||
| I've gotten so many messages about it. | ||
| Great discussion. | ||
| And so here, here, and I'd love to, by the way, for all of those people who were so supportive of the rights to burn the American flag. | ||
| Okay, all right, that's your, that's your statement. | ||
| That's freedom of speech. | ||
| Are you also going to support the freedom of speech of Shiloh Hendrix? | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Because Shiloh Hendrix has now been charged. | ||
| So who is Shiloh Hendrix? | ||
| Let's remember this. | ||
| She became viral for language that she used at a Rochester Park in a video that went viral. | ||
| This is out of the Minnesota Star Tribune. | ||
| She has hurled racial slurs. | ||
| Now, this claims that she hurled them at a child, although that's not what we see in the video. | ||
| And it says she is being charged. | ||
| Search, can we get, can we see what she was charged with or is there a paywall on this thing? | ||
| So I'm new to this. | ||
| Is there a white woman yelling at a black kid or a black woman? | ||
| a white woman and we're told that there was an altercation between her and What we see in the video is another guy who's sort of following her, chasing her, harassing her, saying, I'm filming you. | ||
| I'm coming. | ||
| I'm going to make you famous. | ||
| Puts it on TikTok. | ||
| It racks up millions and millions. | ||
| Now she's famous. | ||
| She made her million dollars. | ||
| She uses, yeah, she says the N word in the video, says it to a child though. | ||
| Well, she's saying it to the guy filming in the video. | ||
| Now he's saying that he claimed that she said it to the child. | ||
| I want to give out what did she, what was she charged with? | ||
| She said, you know, she admitted to calling him the offensive. | ||
| Disorderly conduct. | ||
| And said that she can call him that if he acts like one. | ||
| So she kind of admits saying it in the video. | ||
| So even though we don't have the video of it, she admits it in this later video. | ||
| What's he been charged with? | ||
| Three counts of disorderly conduct. | ||
| I can see the disorderly conduct, right? | ||
| She raised a ton of money on Gives and Go. | ||
| This was in the wake of Carmelo Anthony. | ||
| And I want to... | ||
| Do we know how much money she raised? | ||
| I think it was a million, right? | ||
| It was a million. | ||
| I think it was a million. | ||
| I don't know what it's exactly at right now. | ||
| But I believe she raised a million dollars off of this. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| Freedom of speech for, by the way, and I'm just going to say it for saying a word that black people say all the time to each other all the time. | ||
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| All the time. | ||
| They don't land the R. Was he landing the R? | ||
| I mean, they just say, oh, so, and this, but this is the debate I want to get into, right? | ||
| So the debate is that for all of the people who say that it's freedom of speech to burn a flag, then what about Shiloh Hendrix's freedom of speech to, to call a child of the same. | ||
| It is freedom of speech. | ||
| It is freedom of speech. | ||
| You should be able to say what the hell you want to say in America. | ||
| Now, whether it's whether we agree with it or not, that's up to that person.. | ||
| But if this guy wants to call me a dirty spic, he can call me a dirty spic all the time. | ||
| But what if I want to come up to your child and call your child a dirty spic? | ||
| That's your I'll knock you out. | ||
| Well, then yeah, but I mean still, it's his freedom of speech, right? | ||
| Sure, yeah. | ||
| Okay, so it saves you from consequences from the government, but not necessarily what we're getting. | ||
| But was she just going up? | ||
| No, and again, like I don't know, was there more to the story? | ||
| I think there's I think, I think, and I don't know if the video were up. | ||
| I would never knock you out. | ||
| Are you Hispanic? | ||
| No, that's what he said. | ||
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He did say though. | |
| Go no bar after this. | ||
| He did. | ||
| But she said that the kid was going through her bag was like., so when you go, and I'll just say this, having, you know, taken the kids to, you know, the playground, to the park, you, you know, you have like your baby bag, your kid bag that's there, you bring, you know, some drinks, some food, some whatever, it's, it's there. | ||
| And then someone starts going through your bag and you're like, hey, that's, you know, that's not. | ||
| But it was a child, it was just a child doing it. | ||
| It was the child that was going through it. | ||
| Sweetheart, it was a weed bag. | ||
| We don't know exactly what happened before the video. | ||
| And that's what I want to say. | ||
| And I always say that with viral videos, that whenever you see some video that goes crazy viral that's going out, George Floyd is, you know, of course, the quintessential example of this. | ||
| Show me what happened five minutes before, before I have to come in, you know, and and, you know, pass judgment because if we don't have that rule, if you don't have the five minutes rule, then all of a sudden we're going to become this country that's just ruled by whatever video is going. | ||
| Because everyone's a reactionary. | ||
| That shouldn't be our system. | ||
| So I think the conversation that we're having, the ideas that we're debating with, is it's a very complex free speech issue that we're dealing with. | ||
| I think a quote that's often misattributed to Voltaire, it succinctly describes what we're working with. | ||
| Like he allegedly said, I know I'm misattributing this quote, but I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend it to death your right to say it. | ||
| I think the idea here is that, let's say, a government that you don't like eventually comes to power and has other things that they want to allege could potentially produce riots, and therefore you shouldn't be able to burn trans flags. | ||
| So it really depends. | ||
| The issue is giving the government the power to do that. | ||
| You already can't burn a trans flag. | ||
| You can burn a trans flag, as far as I'm concerned, as far as you're concerned, but I'm saying No, the actual law is actually concerned. | ||
| I think you're misattributing a story that didn't exactly align with someone actually burning a trans flag. | ||
| Also, it's worth mentioning that the law that's actually passed is in regard to, like, you definitely have to do that. | ||
| Somebody burning a flag and then inciting a riot as a result of it, trying to incite a riot, I think think is what the actual charges here. | ||
| But it's like how far we covered that last night. | ||
| We like I made that distinction. | ||
| What was the story of somebody burning the trans flag? | ||
| I'm talking about the American flag EO. | ||
| We we I made the distinction that what was passed yesterday, it was basically taking that idea that you're not going to you're not going to be charged directly for the burning of the flag, but it's the incitement. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So it's an additional additional other things. | ||
| I think this would be a limit on free speech, although I am very conflicted. | ||
| I love our country. | ||
| I love the country's values. | ||
| I love what the flag symbolizes. | ||
| But I am conflicted on using the law and trying to arrest people and using law enforcement as a result of that. | ||
| And where would we eventually draw the line and will eventually these laws be used against me? | ||
| One of the things that people consistently were saying to me on Twitter is, first of all, they were like, well, you know, all this stuff about the trans flag or people that were doing burnout on the rainbow crosswalks and blah, blah, blah, that is all the idea that anyone should be prosecuted for that is also ridiculous, right? | ||
| Like that shouldn't be any kind of defense because no one that burns a trans flag or does a burnout on a rainbow cross, none of them should actually be prosecuted. | ||
| There should never be an arrest. | ||
| People bring up hate crimes. | ||
| I don't think that hate crimes are real because hate crimes are thought crimes. | ||
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Right. | |
| Like there should not be any hate crimes. | ||
| If you commit a violent act to someone, that's what you're, you should be prosecuted for. | ||
| All hate crime is a thought crime and that is outside the realm of the government. | ||
| So like when this case These are not particularly complex. | ||
| Getting it back to Shiloh Hendrix, we have we now have word crime. | ||
| Yeah, of course, of course. | ||
| So let's think about that, right? | ||
| You know, if if if if if she had cursed and I'm just going to play Devil's Advocate, if she had cursed at the child, would she be charged? | ||
| Probably not. | ||
| Like get the evidence. | ||
| Get the F. Get the F. Get the F. But if she said, get the F away from my bag, which she may have said, which you'd probably be getting charged. | ||
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No. | |
| Right. | ||
| So what I'm saying is she's kind of in the right. | ||
| The kid was basically with her property. | ||
| I mean, I can see that, but she shouldn't have handled that like that. | ||
| But I think it's rude. | ||
| It's very rude, right? | ||
| But that's it. | ||
| But did she go ballistic and crazy afterwards and keep yelling at the kid? | ||
| Is that what happened? | ||
| I haven't even seen it. | ||
| We don't know. | ||
| Right. | ||
| We don't know exactly what happened. | ||
| And that's getting back to my five minutes rule. | ||
| We don't know exactly what happened. | ||
| But what I'm saying is, this was a playground thing, right? | ||
| You know, these things happen all the time on playgrounds where there's some altercation, something goes wrong. | ||
| It doesn't seem like anyone was physically hurt here in any way, thank God. | ||
| It doesn't seem like. | ||
| Because if she just said something like, Hey, get out of my bag and then said the N word, and like, Okay, but if she kept calling the kid names and like barating the kid, that's like abuse, right? | ||
| Right? | ||
| Kind of? | ||
| That will come up, I'm sure. | ||
| But what about the fact that the person who was harassing her caused her to be doxed, caused her, caused them to go after her family, clearly is, and by the way, is also doxing her child, putting it up to get social media clout, to get clicks, et cetera, et cetera. | ||
| But now she's a millionaire. | ||
| What if everybody in this story is deplorable and just sucks. | ||
| What about, you know, if everybody, I don't need to feel bad about anybody here. | ||
| I mean, the little kid sucks for reaching to the bag. | ||
| The way the kid's parent or guardian reacted sucks. | ||
| And we have no idea where the first parent is, by the way, the parent of this, the five-year-old that's going in the bag, because the person who's filming is not their parent. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| So we have no idea where that parent is. | ||
| So that's the very first thing, by the way. | ||
| And again, I'll be consistent, right? | ||
| If I said that I would go down on my kid and bring him to, you know, come down on my kid and go to the, you know, take him to the police station if he did something that, like Roger Jackson did, then in the same token as this, if my kid is going through somebody else's.s bag at the playground. | ||
| Say, hey, what are you doing? | ||
| Give my mom the right to spank me and beat my ass, and also my neighbors. | ||
| And that was just last week. | ||
| They took the opportunity. | ||
| I kind of enjoyed it. | ||
| No, but no, really, when I was a kid, I could hold on to the desk and bend over and I'd be like, Oh, damn. | ||
| Well, bam. | ||
| I said, West Virginia Knights. | ||
| And my mom was like, Yeah, I know, but my mom was like, You deserve that. | ||
| My mom would give me preemptive ass beatings before I would walk into a store. | ||
| She'd hit me and say, You better not do this or that. | ||
| I mean, I was raised that way. | ||
| I was raised with ass kickings all the time. | ||
| Probably that's why I'm the way I am now. | ||
| But I'm just saying, like, but I mean, I understand it. | ||
| Like, I mean, kids could be, uh, bad. | ||
| Uh, you know, animals, dude. | ||
| They could be just, you know, for me growing up, I was always in trouble. | ||
| So I expected that. | ||
| But I mean, my neighbors, my mom gave the neighbors permission. | ||
| Like, look, if he jumps on your roof and does that again, beat his ass. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so did she did she went overboard in in throwing the M word at a five year old? | ||
| Yeah, you could say that she did. | ||
| Dude, my mom called me some names. | ||
| I don't want to repeat them. | ||
| But at the same time, where's where's the first parent, you know, of that child? | ||
| If you get a five year old at a playground, you're not paying attention to them. | ||
| That's a very young age. | ||
| That is not the age of a kid that should just be, you know, let out on the show. | ||
| She's probably on her phone. | ||
| She's probably looking for the next TikTok video, thinking, oh, what's next? | ||
| And I see that too, by the way. | ||
| I see that, you know, and that's not a racial thing. | ||
| That's just, you know, parents are on their phones way too much. | ||
| And I try very cognizantly to get myself away from the phone. | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| Times have changed so much. | ||
| But the point is, the point is, should you face charges for that? | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| Should that be something that really probably should have stayed between, it should have stayed on the playground. | ||
| That's all I'm saying. | ||
| I mean, me growing up, my mom used to beat the crap out of my friends, and my friends' mothers used to beat the crap out of me, everyone. | ||
| I mean, it was just the way it was., I don't think I definitely not be charged for that, one hundred percent, no. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I just I don't think it's justified. | ||
| And that's why, by the way, when it comes to flag burning stuff, I'm going to say, look, we already have de facto speech codes in this country. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And that's essentially what this is. | ||
| It's a de facto speech code that already exists. | ||
| It's a standard and a precedent that has already been set. | ||
| You can argue over when it was set, but it's been set and it's currently set. | ||
| We do not live in a free speech society. | ||
| We don't. | ||
| Yeah, nobody is principled in their belief in free speech. | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| People like to LARP and posture as if they are, but when push comes to shove on an issue that they care about, it kind of goes out the window. | ||
| My principle is reward patriots, punish non-patriots. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| That's my principle. | ||
| It's like, you know, you can't burn the flag full stop. | ||
| I don't have to justify this. | ||
| Should you be able to talk trash about the flag? | ||
| The founders wouldn't have tolerated this. | ||
| You have the right to do that. | ||
| Not anymore. | ||
| Not as of yesterday. | ||
| No, no kidding. | ||
| Guys, I'm sitting here with like a third of my arm as the 13 colonies flag, and I'm still saying, hey, it's okay. | ||
| It's not going to hurt the United States. | ||
| I know the argument that was being made, oh, this is about demoralization. | ||
| It absolutely hurts the United States. | ||
| I don't think that it hurts. | ||
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It's a crime against nation. | |
| I disagree. | ||
| I don't think that it actually hurts. | ||
| You've yanked those people off the streets. | ||
| There's no way to raise kids to value their country if you also teach them it's okay to burn the flag. | ||
| You tell your kids that the people that are actually burning the flag are the scum of the earth. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And again, I'm the guy that's got the only guy here that's had the flag tattooed on his body. | ||
| Just because it is illegal doesn't mean it's okay. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I feel like we also need to, I detest anybody. | ||
| You don't have to beat me with a right to beat me with it. | ||
| But if someone wants to burn the flag, I'm just going to look at them and be like, ah, what a moron. | ||
| Even worse than that, I'm going to detest you and loathe you. | ||
| And I think you should be. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Or you can just go to jail. | ||
| Because it's an uncontrolled burn because it's a crime. | ||
| So what do they say? | ||
| So you could burn a flag in your own home if it's privately, but if you're inciting? | ||
| Okay, so the current EO does not cover that. | ||
| So if you went on Amazon, I said this last night, if you went on Amazon and you purchased a flag and you brought it home, and I think somebody, there was some two-way guy thought he'd be edgy, and he had one of those handheld flags. | ||
| Gun go pop. | ||
| Yeah, and he burned it today. | ||
| look at me. | ||
| Well, the EO doesn't cover that. | ||
| that the EO says when you're at a riot or in a public setting and you are going to incite imminent illegal action or violence that is the time when the DOJ is directed to go after you. | ||
| See, I think this is all man i don't know how much time we have left but i just want to say like i think this is going in a direction where i think trump is preparing for something big man and i think i think it's like i'm serious there's national guards on the streets i think it's getting well it's not it's not protected speech it's it's never i mean what happened in june it's all over them those kids are burning in the moors there is no and just to get into it again i mean i saw this last night i don't want to repeat myself but this is this is a marxist uh argument it is absolutely a marxist twisting of the first amendment | ||
| to claim that expression is speech uh people the pro-life movement fought against roe v wade for years and years and years and finally got it overturnurned because they were able to prove that it wasn't in the Constitution. | ||
| Protection of flag burning is nowhere near in the Constitution. | ||
| Believe it or not, it was decided a decade after Roe v. | ||
| Wade. | ||
| So Roe v. | ||
| Wade was around for much longer than flag burning was protected. | ||
| And yet people want to sit here and act like the founding fathers would have supported that. | ||
| It's just not true. | ||
| It's a completely Marxist argument that came up at the, kind of, tail end of the counterculture, you know, sort of sixties radical revolution. | ||
| They finally get this decision out of the Supreme Court in 1989. | ||
| And it's just, it's ridiculous. | ||
| It's antithetic to our history. | ||
| It's Marxist. | ||
| The founders went further with John Adams with the Sedition Act in 1789. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| It's like the flag burning would have been completely, that would have got you ostracized and probably mobbed. | ||
| They even went further with just basic criticism. | ||
| I'm not saying that's what, that's neither here nor there, but to act like the founders would have been this, like, oh, yeah, that's totally fine, burn it. | ||
| This is part of our rights. | ||
| I'm fine. | ||
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It's like, that's not how I don't agree with it at all. | |
| I don't think you should burn a flag, absolutely not, but you should have the right to do it. | ||
| If you're an idiot, you have the right to be an idiot. | ||
| But that's Marxism. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's a, that's a Marxist argument that in the 1960s. | ||
| People deploy the same argument with pornography. | ||
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Right. | |
| That's how they defend the use of pornography. | ||
| You're saying, well, I disagree with it, but you have the right to do it. | ||
| I'm like, but this is clearly destructive to. | ||
| How many years did states have obscenity laws? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Obscenity laws, blasphemy laws. | ||
| You're making a good point. | ||
| Like if your girlfriend or your wife sends naked pictures of herself, your wife for context, right? | ||
| So say your wife sends you naked pictures, that's pornography. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's different than publishing. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because this is distribution to the public, whether it's an not what we're suesis about. | ||
| We're arguing, right? | ||
| But what he's arguing, and what I'm trying to argue is that this is our actual history, right? | ||
| So for people who want to claim that, oh, the founder, like, it's a foundational belief of America that you have to, you know, you have to allow for flag burning and pornography and, you know, and all this stuff. | ||
| No, it's just not true. | ||
| It's never been true. | ||
| It's just, it is an ahistorical Marxist argument. | ||
| And it's well, it's, so I disagree that it's a Marxist argument, but the you're promoting Marxism, Phil. | ||
| Yeah, like I said, I disagree that it's a Marxist argument. | ||
| But talk to the Marxist again. | ||
| With the American flag on his arm. | ||
| How are we getting it? | ||
| You Marxist? | ||
| How are we getting it? | ||
| deeply engaged in the philosophical debate here. | ||
| I'm still going to defend the right of people to do what they want. | ||
| If they want to burn a flag, you have the right to do that. | ||
| If I agree with you, I don't agree with it. | ||
| I don't agree with it. | ||
| I'd be so happy with you right now. | ||
| The President would love you. | ||
| I think the President is much more pragmatic in what he's doing for political reasons. | ||
| So I think the President is extremely effective at baiting Democrats and stupid people in the media into taking his bait. | ||
| So what do I mean by that? | ||
| When he says he's sending the National Guard to DC to fight crime, he's making Democrats defend crime. | ||
| So now when he's saying he's going to make burning the flags illegal, he's going to make Democrats defend burning flags and he's putting them in this rhetorical argument where they're being forced to defend the worst things because it's what he's doing. | ||
| So as far as being like a pragmatic political operator, I think Trump's very effective in what he's trying to set up democrats up to do. | ||
| Setting traps. | ||
| That's what I think he's doing here. | ||
| I think he's already doing that. | ||
| Don't you think he cares about the philosophy or is it right or wrong? | ||
| He's thinking, Oh, burning flags, you know, is bad enough. | ||
| I'm going to make the democrats defend burning flags. | ||
| Well, not only will he make them defend the crime. | ||
| He's going to make them do that. | ||
| Well, Trump says, I can't do this. | ||
| I'm going to do it. | ||
| And now they're going to burn flags. | ||
| Well, be principled in your freedom of speech and burn a flag. | ||
| See how much the public likes that. | ||
| But I think that's what the president is baiting people into doing. | ||
| He is a very savvy. | ||
| political operator in how he's behaving here. | ||
| That's what I think people should be 3D chess thinking about these Trump moves, because these moves didn't come out of nowhere, right? | ||
| He's trying to set up a narrative. | ||
| But flag burning has been controversial for like thirty years. | ||
| This isn't like a recent Trump giving up. | ||
| He's bringing it back into the news. | ||
| Laughter is that Hillary Clinton actually supported this in 2005. | ||
| So figure. | ||
| When she was a senator, this was something that was so, you know, it was so like, quote, unquote, popular, you know, in, you know, rally around the flag, 2011 environment that even Hillary was like, yeah, we should get on board with this. | ||
| So I'm Hillary at W, I guess. | ||
| So, you know, we all saw what happened in June, right? | ||
| They're waving the Mexican flag, they're burning American flags, you know, the riots, the protests that happened in June. | ||
| Yeah, we talked about this a ton last night. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So obviously, I feel with him putting the troops on the streets in D.C., getting ready now, what, 19 states, I think he's getting ready for something much bigger. | ||
| And this is all. | ||
| Everything, all the moves he's making is alluding to this to me. | ||
| From what I can see from a 60,000 foot view is, I think something bigger is coming around the corner and he's preparing for it with protests and civil unrest. | ||
| And I think that could be maybe what people start getting arrested, dog. | ||
| I'm just saying, because if they'll do it for George Floyd, what you're saying is, if I hear this right, because this EO, and a lot pointed out that it's very. | ||
| specifically talking about these instances at, you know, in public and Yes, he's getting ahead of the ball. | ||
| So he's, so he's thinking, right. | ||
| Something's going to happen. | ||
| He's thinking like a general. | ||
| He sees what's coming. | ||
| He's like, okay, because if they'll write and protest when George Floyd got arrested, right? | ||
| Your liberal next door was writing and protesting, everyone was going to go crazy. | ||
| So if they'll do that with George Floyd, what are they going to do? | ||
| Let's say, I don't know, Hillary Obama gets arrested. | ||
| Let's say that comes. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| He's getting ahead of the ball here with this. | ||
| So he's setting his chess pieces in. | ||
| He's setting his chess pieces in order here to make those moves. | ||
| He's moving in the troops. | ||
| He's setting the perimeters. | ||
| Do you guys get what I'm saying here? | ||
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| Yeah. | ||
| Stop getting my hopes up. | ||
| I'm not gonna do this. | ||
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I can see dude's gonna be like, I've been watching Phil's gonna be sitting there. | |
| I've been watching Why are you arresting the flag burners? | ||
| Oh, Bob, he's getting my tattoo. | ||
| I bet your mind, Jack. | ||
| He's gonna be crying out of your mind. | ||
| He's gonna be singing. | ||
| I know you all are thinking about Puddles of a man. | ||
| I didn't know that you were so into strong men defending the strong man arguments. | ||
| I didn't really want to go to that. | ||
| I've seen some of that all the time. | ||
| Defending unreal. | ||
| I will always. | ||
| I mean, we all see strong man arguments. | ||
| I've never said that I'm like, oh, the poor guy, blah, blah, blah. | ||
| I'm just saying that it shouldn't, people shouldn't go to jail for it. | ||
| So making it out like I'm some kind of bleeding heart liberal is ridiculous. | ||
| But dude, what are they going to do? | ||
| You're kind of simping for flag burners. | ||
| Not simping for flag burners at all. | ||
| I haven't said, oh, the poor flag burners or anything. | ||
| I'm saying that the principle of free expression and free speech includes flag burning. | ||
| You don't agree with this. | ||
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And so you sit there and raw man me is just okay, okay. | |
| Where is free expression in the constitution? | ||
| Please, I said free expression and free speech. | ||
| Okay, great difference. | ||
| So pull up free expression in the constitution. | ||
| So I know that I'm aware that it's not in the constitution. | ||
| So just pull it up for me. | ||
| I just told you, I'm aware that free expression is not in the constitution, but freedom of association isn't in it either. | ||
| But people on the right always say, oh, we should have freedom of assembly, is there? | ||
| Freedom of association, which is different than freedom. | ||
| If you're going to say that freedom of assembly is the same thing as freedom of association, then freedom of expression is the same thing as freedom of speech. | ||
| So physical act is not speech. | ||
| I'm saying that if you're going to make the argument that they're the same, then... | ||
| I'm not making the argument that abortion is privacy. | ||
| No, I'm just saying these are things that Marxists did to our constitution to twist the meaning of words to get people to suddenly say, oh, I'm defendinging freedom by defending all these things that degrade, demoralize and destroy my country. | ||
| So like I said, the freedom of speech, I think that if you burn the flag, that's expressing yourself. | ||
| It's not in the constitution. | ||
| It's speech is in the constitution. | ||
| Show me where it is in the constitution. | ||
| It's speech. | ||
| The point is it's speech. | ||
| You keep saying, show me where it's in the constitution. | ||
| I told you, I straight out. | ||
| I don't have to agree with you, but I'm aware that I'm sorry, I'm not trying to cut you off, but you're twisting the word to the constitution, not twisting it to achieve a goal that the communists want. | ||
| It's pornography. | ||
| Can I just I think it's fine. | ||
| I don't think that it's, I don't, I think that, I think that it's, I think that, I think that personally, I think there are sometimes speech. | ||
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| I think that speech does cover freedom of expression because you're expressing yourself. | ||
| Expression is not speech. | ||
| I think what he's doing here is brilliant in a way. | ||
| And I agree with you, by the way. | ||
| I agree with you. | ||
| I think he's putting his chess pieces in position for what do the liberals love to do when they're protesting and chanting and rioting? | ||
| They burn flags. | ||
| Dude, he's getting ready. | ||
| He's getting ahead of the ball. | ||
| I'm telling you, he's like a war general. | ||
| He sees what's coming. | ||
| Something big is going to come. | ||
| Do you agree with me? | ||
| I think he's just baiting libs. | ||
| He's baiting libs. | ||
| What's going to happen is they're going to go crazy. | ||
| I'm telling you real quick. | ||
| I mean, I agree that I think that's what he's doing. | ||
| And that he did the same thing on crime. | ||
| He was baiting libs to say, Oh no, a few muggings are okay, like a few shootings. | ||
| I think he believes it too. | ||
| I mean, to be fair, like I think he's against Snyderberg. | ||
| As a savvy political move. | ||
| I think this other stuff is immaterial to him. | ||
| I think he's just very savvy political. | ||
| I think he's a patriot and he loves America and he hates to see that happen. | ||
| I don't think we're seldom going to see this invoked. | ||
| Some in the chat is asking, can we burn Phil's arm as free speech? | ||
| But I see with what Trump is doing with the troops and everything he's doing, he is setting his pieces up for strategy., the whole flag burning thing, it's all strategy. | ||
| I think what's coming, he's preparing for something he knows they're going to be set off. | ||
| It's so funny, by the way, there's a bunch, there's it's funny because there's a bunch of people in the chat who are like, we're like, Posobik is making things is rogue. | ||
| And I'm like, guys, it's not in the Constitution. | ||
| It's just not there. | ||
| Like, you can claim it as all you want, but it's just not there. | ||
| The same way that abortion is not in the Constitution. | ||
| It's just not there. | ||
| You want to print this to super chats? | ||
| I feel like we do have to. | ||
| Yeah, we do have to. | ||
| I feel bad for those who have turned in. | ||
| Surge has been texting me for a while. | ||
| And so I look at the chats and I do want to get that. | ||
| And I feel like we never run through the super chats enough. | ||
| We don't want to. | ||
| I'm a three times Trump voter and long time Tim Cast fan. | ||
| A lot of the staff and the right in general now flirt with this authoritarianism. | ||
| If you say F the rules, F the principles, how are you better than Beto? | ||
| I'm the only one here who's actually reading the constitution and defending it. | ||
| The thing is, the constitution says a lot of things that don't exist in reality right now. | ||
| Can you tell me what the second amendment is right now? | ||
| I cannot have, you know, equal rights to a firearm. | ||
| I cannot carry a firearm in most of the places that I live actively. | ||
| But, but, but, oh, it's the second amendment. | ||
| Oh, it's in the constitution. | ||
| Okay, the constitution doesn't apply to most of the things in our practical real life right now where there are more laws added after the fact that. | ||
| that doesn't mean you shouldn't defend it. | ||
| You're not wrong, but as for pragmatic purposes, practical purposes go. | ||
| So are you saying that the act of burning the flag is not freedom of speech? | ||
| It's the act of putting it on fire. | ||
| Sorry, we're going to. | ||
| That's what you're saying. | ||
| Oh, no, I'm trying to really absorb this. | ||
| That's what you're saying, right? | ||
| That the act of lighting a flag on fire is not freedom, that's that not, that is not, that's not freedom of speech. | ||
| It's not. | ||
| He's arguing that it's not speech. | ||
| It's not speech in particular. | ||
| Because it's not speech. | ||
| Because it's not something like a category. | ||
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| So if I, if you and I are speaking, it's like vandalism. | ||
| Freedom of speech. | ||
| Vandalism, that's what I think it's incitement is what people are. | ||
| People were arguing in the incitement is the EO. | ||
| I'm not going to go on the EO. | ||
| I'm just trying to understand this better, but this is just if it's done in public settings in a protest, then that's against the law. | ||
| But if someone has a flag in their own home and they want to burn their flag that they bought, they can do that. | ||
| That's where I'm that's not I don't understand the Not under the current Under the current EO you could. | ||
| So you could burn American flag in your home in your home, but if you're out at a protest you start burning the flag, that's against the law. | ||
| That's the current executive order, yes. | ||
| Because he says that it's incitement. | ||
| I do have to get to the supertats because I'm being very remiss. | ||
| I do like this conversation though. | ||
| Where, wait, okay, sorry, I'm looking at the wrong spot. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| This is from Methos 671. | ||
| This is Rumble. | ||
| This is Rumble rant. | ||
| If Trump accepts 600,000 Chinese students, he should be impeached and removed under the 25th. | ||
| China is an enemy of the United States and is plotting our downfall every day. | ||
| And I voted for him. | ||
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| So again, I mean, that's what we titled this episode that there's a MAGA uproar. | ||
| And there you go. | ||
| Where are we going? | ||
| A lot is nuts. | ||
| This is from Sporkwitch. | ||
| What is a Sporkwitch? | ||
| Now that is. | ||
| That's not. | ||
| That is a shit. | ||
| Did they give a take that they were upset about? | ||
| So college doesn't teach American values. | ||
| It indoctrinates students in Marxism, China only allows party members in good standing to go zero benefit all cost and harm. | ||
| That's just not true on both, on both accounts. | ||
| And Post, so maybe you could talk more to the China part, but i just don't think that's the case but let's go i mean i'd say it's probably case by case basis but if you're if you are a party member you're going to have a more chance or from a family that has a party member there's a better chance you're going to make it um Let's see. | ||
| The only reason, the only rational reason for the students is to use them as hostages for the CCP. | ||
| This is from SPQR 2008. | ||
| So returning, returning Rome, the Roman Empire in the 2008, using them as hostages for the CCP not taking Taiwan or the South China Sea. | ||
| Matt Rides, a friend, married a Chinese girl. | ||
| Her bro is in the army. | ||
| By the way, that's interesting because most, uh, you know, most, most people in China are, you know, one child, but that's changing. | ||
| Good point. | ||
| Um, so I don't know. | ||
| Maybe this is fake news. | ||
| It's, they've, they've been relaxing it in recent years. | ||
| So, you know, if you're younger, it's, it's possible, like, like Gen Z. So millennials don't have siblings in China, but Gen Z kind of can. | ||
| Um, but in some cases, again, if you're a CCP elite, you can, or if you have a special dispensation, you can, you can get, uh, get around the kids. | ||
| And so, um, uh, he was told that. | ||
| because his sister is married to a foreigner, he is not eligible for promotion in the army. | ||
| CCP has zero issue with holding family accountable. | ||
| This is this family reprisal collective punishment. | ||
| This was to my point earlier that Chinese nationalists are also against student visas for Chinese people coming over here. | ||
| That's more of a reason to not do it. | ||
| MFT 2 says, how long will Xi still be in charge of China? | ||
| Rumor is he is on the outs with his party. | ||
| Yeah, I see that headline. | ||
| Gosh, like it's like it's like routine every six months. | ||
| He's about to go. | ||
| The CCP is about to fall. | ||
| They're about to fall. | ||
| They're going to fall tomorrow. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He just keeps purging them. | ||
| Anybody who questions their loyalty, even the people who are loyal to CCP, Xi Jinping and the CCP, he just keeps doing these so-called corruption purges. | ||
| And of business leaders too, anybody gets too powerful. | ||
| They were putting it on TV. | ||
| So it was the number one show in China at one point where the struggle sessions, because you don't have to hold them in these mass public settings and soccer stadiums anymore, like the Cultural Revolution, they were putting them on TV and they made like a reality show about it. | ||
| So, and you would actually have to get the official who's being purge, the purgee, I suppose, is now on camera speaking to the camera reciting their crimes against the nation and you get to see all of the things they did and then that person gets purged and this was like number one highest rated show in China. | ||
| You know, to the point of if she were to be, you know, die or taken out of power or whatever, that doesn't mean that the government's going to change. | ||
| It just means that she's not the guy in charge. | ||
| She just gets replaced. | ||
| out of power or whatever. | ||
| That doesn't mean that the government's going to change. | ||
| It just means that she's not the guy in charge. | ||
| He just gets replaced. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It would just be another person. | ||
| Here's an interesting... | ||
| Xi gets replaced with Li. | ||
| But I think Xi Jinping will be there for quite some time. | ||
| I really do. | ||
| I think he's going to So you do, you stand down for one term, you know, go into a lesser role and then come back as the overall leader. | ||
| It wouldn't surprise me if there was something like that that happened. | ||
| Really interesting comment from Corbin twenty six, I'm a second generation immigrant. | ||
| I speak English, French, Spanish and my parents' languages. | ||
| We believe in MAGA, yet are still not seen as American enough. | ||
| Do we have to abandon our original culture to belong? | ||
| And I would say, look, I think personally that and I'll open it up, but just from my personal answer. | ||
| would be that assimilation is a multi generational process. | ||
| It just is. | ||
| I don't think it makes you any less American if you are a first generation immigrant or a second generation immigrant. | ||
| I don't think you should listen to people who say otherwise. | ||
| You're just as much of an American and you have equal rights compared to those people. | ||
| So as far as I'm concerned, there's a difference between having the rights of an American citizen and being an American. | ||
| What are the qualifications and what allows you to be an American? | ||
| I'm talking about this multi generational process of listening. | ||
| I don't think you need to be here for multiple generations to be an equal American. | ||
| One person can't be here for multiple generations. | ||
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What? | |
| One person can't be here for multiple gener multiple generations, I don't think that would make it a person more. | ||
| But there's one person more. | ||
| What are they saying? | ||
| They don't want to be like they're not. | ||
| What about being proud of your heritage? | ||
| I mean, my family's from Mexico. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I mean, I'm proud of my Mexican heritage. | ||
| What is he? | ||
| What exactly are they saying? | ||
| Well, it's they don't feel American. | ||
| They don't make a distinction between what is an American versus what is an American citizen. | ||
| And I think they were asking, you know, when do I become American? | ||
| If you live here legally, man, you're an American. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But there's a difference between being someone who, you know, is just a legal immigrant versus someone who's been here for hundreds of years. | ||
| Yeah, like, no, I'm more American than he is. | ||
| You just said, you just said yourself that I can't be here for hundreds of years. | ||
| Be honest. | ||
| Yeah, you can't be. | ||
| Sorry, I said wrong. | ||
| A family who's been here here for hundreds of years. | ||
| So I'm trying to understand what's the difference between how American someone is and the citizenship. | ||
| What's I think is one is one is a legal piece of paper and one is a proud jewel. | ||
| I'm trying to understand what is what makes someone American beyond citizenship. | ||
| Shared culture. | ||
| Shared culture, shared heritage, shared. | ||
| That's what makes America so rich and great is that everyone has a different culture. | ||
| Everyone brings it all to the table. | ||
| Everyone here. | ||
| But there is a core American culture, for sure. | ||
| And that's what they mentioned. | ||
| We share hot dogs and baseball. | ||
| I mean, I know it's our American thing. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| And I love them. | ||
| But I'm just saying like, but everyone kind of brings something to the table from Italy, from Mexxico, we're all here together, you know, making America so rich and beautiful. | ||
| The point that's kind of being talked about or that they're kind of dancing around is there are people that think that America is a white Protestant country. | ||
| And if you're not a white Protestant, you're kind of not a real American. | ||
| And whether or not people, whether or not people, you know, and the problem with this. | ||
| Tell that to the Indians. | ||
| I mean, I think America came a lot of American America before the Europeans came. | ||
| But I'm not making an argument for or against that, but the point that the person's getting at, and that's kind of what the discussion online is now. | ||
| The people that say talk about Heritage America. | ||
| Americans or real Americans, what they're talking about is people that are white Anglo Saxon Protestants, right? | ||
| That is baby Catholic. | ||
| That is part of America. | ||
| That's a country. | ||
| Yeah, right. | ||
| And so the people that are not white Anglo Saxon Protestants, they're suspected somehow. | ||
| And that's honestly the way that it goes. | ||
| I wouldn't necessarily say suspect. | ||
| I would just say that you're from a country or a culture that is separate from the original Americans. | ||
| But I don't think the thing that happens is based on that. | ||
| And your Americanness, I think, depends on your belief in American values, which aren't inherently based to any original founding stock of the country. | ||
| So you divide the world between. | ||
| between Americans and future Americans. | ||
| People will make an argument that it does. | ||
| People make an argument that this is that America is for a particular people and that other people cannot assimilate. | ||
| Yeah, and I would argue that it's unamerican and not found in the Constitution. | ||
| Well, people can assimilate, but they're assimilating to something. | ||
| Right, so what are they? | ||
| The American values, but the American values inherently are not. | ||
| I don't think America is just an idea though. | ||
| America is the American people are a people. | ||
| The American nation is a nation of people. | ||
| You have to understand that it takes different kinds of people to make America. | ||
| America has changed over time, but the idea that the American people are just this amorphous blob and that anyone can just automatically become American because you get a piece of paper. | ||
| It's ridiculous on its face. | ||
| I can't go to, I mentioned living in China. | ||
| I speak Chinese. | ||
| I can't just, I can't become Chinese. | ||
| Let me ask Nan Jadder. | ||
| If I'm a, if I'm a member of the founding stock, Mayflower, what have you, but I'm a hardline communist leftist, am I, and I've heard all these arguments all week. | ||
| Oh, I'm not. | ||
| So great. | ||
| So you could have a good answer for it, right? | ||
| So what do you think? | ||
| Like, am I any less American if I'm a diehard communist, hate America, hate American values, want the country and the government to be overthrown? | ||
| Am I more American than some, and as this super chatter who's a stupid American, but you'd still be an American. | ||
| I'm the person who's here as a second generation. | ||
| I think this guy said his parents were It's a matter of history. | ||
| It's not something that I can change. | ||
| In your eyes is the person Not in my eyes. | ||
| It's just a matter of history. | ||
| It's a matter of your interpretation of what it means to be an American. | ||
| We're describing a mechanism. | ||
| Yeah, it's a historical mechanism. | ||
| Those were the people who founded America. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So now we were valuing people on how much someone is American or not. | ||
| Well, you're an ally. | ||
| It's not valuing. | ||
| I'm just thinking about valuing. | ||
| You're adding that word again, just like you added to the word valuing. | ||
| He's thinking about valuing. | ||
| I'm not valuing. | ||
| He was saying valuing. | ||
| You're saying valuing? | ||
| I was trying to get to the point that I feel like you're proposedly not trying to tangle with. | ||
| So again, this guy was saying he doesn't really feel American or feels less of American because he was a second generation immigrant. | ||
| I'm asking you now, you already said you're asked this all the time, so you should have a well thought out answer. | ||
| Somebody again, founding stock, came here on the Mayflower, but is currently in his day and age, a diehard communist wants to throw the government, is a revolutionary compared to the super chatter who said, you know, he's a second generation American. | ||
| Are these people of equal Americanness to you? | ||
| Is one more or less American to you? | ||
| One more or less, I mean, they're separate things. | ||
| So you're taking someone's mental status and trying to imbibe that to their family's history. | ||
| I'm talking about their family's history. | ||
| I'm not talking about whether they're a liberal or a conservative, any of these things. | ||
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Any of these things. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| So you're saying that that guy would be more American, the diehard communist whose family came here and has been here since the Mayflower. | ||
| As it is, it's simply a matter of history. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| So say, I don't like it. | ||
| I feel like you're giving me. | ||
| So you think that person is more American. | ||
| That person who comes from, we're very, we're like right on the end. | ||
| So we should, I think, because we all agree, we're carrying this over. | ||
| So the answer is yes, obviously. | ||
| That person is from the founding stock of America and a person who is an immigrant, if they're not from that culture, that culture is not. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think the exact opposite. | ||
| And I think that person is actually would be a threat to America and Americans. | ||
| But I'm not saying they're not a threat. | ||
| But it's also just a matter of history. | ||
| And it's just, it's just an immutable fact. | ||
| Real immutable facts. | ||
| Oh, true. | ||
| We are a little bit over. | ||
| We did not shout out stuff. | ||
| Are we able to do that, Surge, if that's okay? | ||
| Because I want to make sure Nino gets a chance to shout out where he's from. | ||
| Because he was a great guest. | ||
| Oh, I appreciate that. | ||
| I like the ending. | ||
| I was like, I want to be a referee. | ||
| Well, we have another hour. | ||
| We have another hour. | ||
| So let's do that for you. | ||
| You can start swinging if you want. | ||
| He's being right. | ||
| He's wrong. | ||
| No, just tell people where I'm at. | ||
| Is that what you're saying? | ||
| Ninos corner. | ||
| Yeah, Ninos corner not.tv. | ||
| I left the fighting arena, the physical fight of boxing to following every. | ||
| Following everything on the deep state war that's Ninos corner.tv. | ||
| It's also Ninos corner on YouTube and Rumble Ninos corner X is Nino boxer and that's about it. | ||
| Thank you guys for tuning in, everybody. | ||
| I'm Elod Eliyahu, the White House correspondent here at Tim Kest. | ||
| I've bombed it too hard, also I've been on the immigration beat, which has been crazy. | ||
| I might get the opportunity soon to do a couple of ride alongs, which would be a great opportunity. | ||
| So I'm really thankful to be on the lookout for that. | ||
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| tuned for the super chat where I will be explaining what is an American. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| Thank you. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Oh, I love you. | ||
| I'll call you a little bit. | ||
| You gotta sit down so they can. | ||
| It's all right. | ||
| Hey, Bill, you're on. | ||
| Hey, guys. | ||
| How you doing? | ||
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Oh, I gotta go. | |
| Oh, the chat's all mad at me. | ||
| It's so funny. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| They're always mad. | ||
| mad at everything all the time. | ||
| They're literally always mad. | ||
| Literally. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| Jack is right. | ||
| Jack is right. | ||
| Yeah, you see some people saying Jack's right. | ||
| Jack is right. | ||
| I mean, it's not even my position, though. | ||
| It's just true. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Like it's just true. | ||
| Like the sky's blue, water's wet. | ||
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The, the, I think it's a form of freedom of speech within the, wait, are we, are we, are we up or not? | |
| We're rolling right now. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| We're rolling. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Well, I don't, you know, I'll wait. | ||
| I just put up post-millennial because I figured you might know something you want to see one talk about. | ||
| Back only does missionary, no comment. | ||
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Um, do we have to put these on or what are we doing? | |
| But for the graphic, I don't, I don't believe that, you know, I don't, I don't, you know, you mentioned strong man arguments, Phil, and I didn't say that you have to be a white Protestant to be an American. | ||
| And I'm not making that argument either. | ||
| And, but I was kind of wondering what discussion I came in on. | ||
| I'm like, damn, I'm off the mic. | ||
| I don't think think that's the argument that most people are making. | ||
| I do agree that, like, Groypers and some people do make that argument, but I would, the argument that I'm making is just a historical, like, I'm making a historical description. | ||
| I'm describing that the founders of the country and the majority of the country at the time of the founding were white Anglo Saxon Protestants. | ||
| That's not true. | ||
| That's just true. | ||
| Yeah, I'm not And so, yeah, someone descended from that family, from one of those families is going to be obviously and just physically connected more towards those founders than someone who came later. | ||
| Well, what makes them more connected right the in not not not the family not the family but the individual DNA what may but but like Alad was saying if you're dealing with someone that is an avowed communist that has lineage going back all the way to the mayflower right the well the avowed communist in my opinion but I'm not making I'm not making any so what the issue here is is we're looking at two different | ||
| definitions of America right so there's and and there's it's it's American as a definitional nation versus America as a propositional nation. | ||
| And so the propositional nation argument is this sort of like values, belief-based argument that, well, if you just agree to this set of terms, now suddenly you're just immediately an American. | ||
| And I'm not saying that there isn't an American spirit, which I would definitely not argue at all. | ||
| But what I'm saying is that the American people are a... | ||
| a people with a definition and a people who have a history, a history that goes back 400 years, maybe 500 years. | ||
| Not necessarily the white pilgrim. | ||
| Not really. | ||
| That's not an American. | ||
| That's not... | ||
| Well, they're not American. | ||
| They're not American. | ||
| Well, hold on, but what if they... | ||
| Because the settlers created America. | ||
| Okay, but what if they... | ||
| They're Indians. | ||
| I would say they're Indians. | ||
| And then they converted, they fought for the wars. | ||
| Let's say my dad's brother, right? | ||
| My uncle. | ||
| He's as brown as can brown can be. | ||
| But he loves America. | ||
| He would have been there from the founding as well. | ||
| But he was before they even came. | ||
| He was here in America. | ||
| He was an Indian. | ||
| What did he call the place that we lived? | ||
| Not before it was created, yeah. | ||
| And also, did he... | ||
| But I'm just saying, I think it's all colors, shapes, and sizes. | ||
| Is he a member of a tribe? | ||
| Is he an American citizen? | ||
| He was Yaki, he was Cherokee, you know. | ||
| Is he an American citizen? | ||
| Yes. | ||
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Okay. | |
| So, I mean... | ||
| So, that's what I'm saying. | ||
| All shapes and colors, creeds that are American. | ||
| I mean, I don't want to go... | ||
| I don't feel like we should be going too far. | ||
| So, my problem with... | ||
| And I'm half white. | ||
| I mean, I'm also white. | ||
| Well, like... | ||
| I'm as... | ||
| I think this is... | ||
| Let me answer this question. | ||
| Let me answer this question. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And so, you know, what is he? | ||
| I would say he's... | ||
| You know... | ||
| Does he go by Native American? | ||
| No. | ||
| He would just say he's Mexicano. | ||
| He's Chicano, right? | ||
| He would say he's El Paso Chicano. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Then there you go. | ||
| Then that's... | ||
| But that's the type of person he is. | ||
| But he's American. | ||
| And he fought for the war. | ||
| He fought for World War II. | ||
| He's certainly American citizen. | ||
| There's no question. | ||
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Right, right. | |
| But I'm just saying... | ||
| Obviously, there's no question. | ||
| But what I'm saying is, there is a difference in the specific group of people I'm talking about, the wider groups that are out there, and people who are coming like... | ||
| So what about... | ||
| What about blacks? | ||
| Like an Ilhan Omar, or a Azorah Mandami, or a... | ||
| What's the guy? | ||
| I was thinking of brown people. | ||
| Omar Fatah, who, you know, came over... | ||
| No, hold on. | ||
| What about a surge? | ||
| And I agree with you on that. | ||
| A hundred percent. | ||
| He's a South American. | ||
| Or like, or like my own family, right? | ||
| People like, Oh, Pesobik, you're Polish, right? | ||
| I'm like, Yeah, I know. | ||
| Like, I talk about it all the time. | ||
| Like, literally. | ||
| And your parents, were you born here? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| My parents were born here? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Okay, and your grandparents? | ||
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Yes. | |
| Oh, so you've been in America. | ||
| So you've been in the States for some time, I guess. | ||
| That's why. | ||
| Our family has for a minute. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, okay. | ||
| So, you know, pre World War II, I guess you would say. | ||
| I know, I know, I forget which, there was the meme. | ||
| I forget what, what life Ellis Islanders. | ||
| Ellis Islanders. | ||
| At America's founding though, there were a lot of non-Americans involved. | ||
| Famously, I forget his name, Koskiusko. | ||
| Koskiusko. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Koskiusko and Pulaski. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He was. | ||
| Yeah, Polish revolutionary. | ||
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Yeah, but there weren't even though I can see his point. | |
| I can see two people. | ||
| I understand his point too. | ||
| But you know what I'm getting at, right? | ||
| 100%. | ||
| I feel like we're beating around the bush of what we're really saying. | ||
| Are we talking about white people? | ||
| I think that's kind of what it sounds like. | ||
| I understand what you're saying. | ||
| But like, try arguing that with a black guy that whose grandfather served, great grandfather served in the Civil War. | ||
| Black America. | ||
| Those black people do argue that. | ||
| They're like, we're African descendants of slavery. | ||
| African descendants of slavery. | ||
| This is a real touchy argument. | ||
| They're also distinctly American. | ||
| I was like, if they're African American. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| They don't exist outside of the context of the United States. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Right, but the point, listen, the reason that I object to this is not because I have some kind of disagreement about who the first settlers were, because it's, I mean, like you said, it's just historical fact, right? | ||
| The settlers were wasps, right? | ||
| They were all wasps, and I'm the waspiest guy in here. | ||
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Like, no, no, no, no, no. | |
| Pull ancestry DNA out, ignore the wasping out. | ||
| Oh yeah, yeah, like, just ignore. | ||
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Anyway, like I said, well, I'm the waspiest guy every time. | |
| But the point that I'm making, I'm occasionally passing, but if like, people look, they're like, nah. | ||
| The point that I'm making, the point that I'm making is one. | ||
| It is, once, listen, once you start making these arguments, it inevitably starts breaking down into, you're not good enough, you're not enough, you're not enough. | ||
| It's the exact same, what? | ||
| Yeah, I mean, it always starts breaking down like that. | ||
| And it's, and the point that I, the reason why I'm against it is because that will tear the country apart. | ||
| That will tear the country apart. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| The country is currently being torn apart, right, by mass immigration. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And most of that mass immigration has taken place since 1965. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And so the real place where I'm trying to get, and people keep saying, what is your intent? | ||
| So you're, you're, you know, kind of getting around, what is your intent with this medium? | ||
| Media Matters was saying, Posobic's intent with this is clearly to deport legal immigrants. | ||
| It's like, that's literally, I've never said that once. | ||
| I've never even said that Zoran Mandami should be deported. | ||
| People make some pretty interesting arguments. | ||
| I have said that about Illinois. | ||
| I would not mind a denaturalization. | ||
| I have said that she would denaturalize because she committed fraud, because she committed fraud in the naturalization process, not her own, but of her brother. | ||
| She committed fraud there. | ||
| And so, and potentially education fraud as well, so that she could, they could, you know, get the benefits of this. | ||
| But no, the issue is because she the way we talk about immigration is completely broken. | ||
| And the idea that the American people are not a definite people is just not true. | ||
| It's not historically true. | ||
| It's not factually true. | ||
| We can all see it with our own eyes when we're going. | ||
| And what we have now is a nation comprised of sort of the mass nation that is America. | ||
| But then you also have these mini ethnic enclaves that are growing up in areas like Dearborn. | ||
| And so we were talking about this in the context of the UK, but it's happening here now too. | ||
| And you mentioned Plano, right? | ||
| You were saying Plano is getting like that. | ||
| But that's always existed with even different flavors of white. | ||
| Never to this extent though. | ||
| Never to this extent. | ||
| No, they hated the Catholics, and I'm pretty sure they blamed them for a ton of shit. | ||
| They did, and then questioned our loyalty. | ||
| They couldn't run for office. | ||
| The original deal was like, oh, are they loyal to the Pope? | ||
| So no, they actually can't. | ||
| And so they do this. | ||
| And we're loyal to the Pope. | ||
| Where you're wrong though is that it's it is a it is again a category error, right? | ||
| It's a category error because you're talking about, and we mentioned this earlier, that you know, you're talking about cultures and civilizations of people that are so far removed from the direct American culture. | ||
| And people saying like, okay, can they can they assimilate? | ||
| Are Catholics from Latin America so far removed that they can't assimilate? | ||
| Well, that's something we were just talking about. | ||
| The liberation theology ones are. | ||
| You were talking about earlier. | ||
| Let me bring this up. | ||
| Wait, is that a do like, no? | ||
| do you believe that Catholics in Latin America can't assimilate here properly or? | ||
| Can they? | ||
| Again, I think assimilation is a multi generational process that takes time and should never be done in a massive way. | ||
| That's why I want ten. | ||
| That's why I want to end all immigration for ten years. | ||
| Like, my I have the hard core, the I probably have the hardest core. | ||
| America's absolutely false. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I have probably the hardest core immigration stance out of anybody around. | ||
| And I articulate it. | ||
| Let me tell you the arguments I have for the 300,000 extra Chinese we're about to get out. | ||
| Get them out! | ||
| Get all of them out. | ||
| Wait, hold on. | ||
| If we're going to deport him, he's going to double them. | ||
| Let me just tell you the arguments I have to hear. | ||
| I have to hear. | ||
| I think if we need that, I think the good is forcing this conversation. | ||
| Do you want to cancel? | ||
| Double him. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The reason I'm forcing the conversation and I have been online is because I think we have a lot of lazy thinking. | ||
| It's very romantic thinking, right? | ||
| It's very which, which all communism and marxism is rooted in romance. | ||
| I get your point. | ||
| That like we can have this utopia and everyone can have these great values and it's this universal egalitarianism where everyone can be, you know, living in a Jeffersonian republic and it's going to be wonderful. | ||
| I get your and I get your thinking. | ||
| And it just doesn't work. | ||
| If you, here's what I'll say, I'll leave it at this. | ||
| If you replace the American people with the people of Afghanistan overnight, you get Afghanistan. | ||
| You get Afghanistan. | ||
| And so, but by the same token, if you took the American people as surprised today and put them in, you know, the territory of Afghanistan, they would start building. | ||
| And to my point, but hold on, let me just say this one second. | ||
| To your point, the Iraq War proved it, right? | ||
| So the argument that was made about Iraq was we will be greeted as liberators, we'll go in there and they're going to become a Liberation democracy overnight. | ||
| That was never going to happen and Iraq literally proved that. | ||
| Liberia, here's the problem. | ||
| I see a rising. | ||
| No, I agree with me. | ||
| It depends on what you mean. | ||
| No, let me just... | ||
| All right. | ||
| So there's a problem that – So here's the problem that's arising. | ||
| And this argument that you're posing right now, I do agree with that. | ||
| The settlers that came here, white, Protestant, the whole thing. | ||
| I get that. | ||
| I understand it. | ||
| But what I'm hearing, and I'm on the border, right, and it's – No, but listen, they feel, but hold on, but they feel, right, and I agree with that. | ||
| But their argument is, we were here first. | ||
| You're not kicking us out, motherfucker. | ||
| We were here for, and they are fucking adamant about it, bro. | ||
| They are not, they're going to go down with the fight. | ||
| I'm going to tell you. | ||
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Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. | |
| Who's we? | ||
| These are Mexican Americans. | ||
| They're also Indian, right? | ||
| They're indigenous to this land. | ||
| But what you're saying is... | ||
| I'm not saying I agree with it. | ||
| What I do know is that their ethnic identity almost trumps their American identity. | ||
| Well, they should be 100% most of them need to be legal, right? | ||
| I'm not for illegals being here, but I'm just saying what they're saying, what they argue is we were here first, we're from this land. | ||
| We are Apache, we are Cherokee, you know, whatever Indian tribe, because that's what Mexicans really are. | ||
| I mean, people aren't typically deporting Indians. | ||
| Well, what do you think Mexicanos are, man? | ||
| The Spanish and the Indian got together. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| So, you know, that's what they are. | ||
| But they're Indians. | ||
| I mean, that's the Indian is Mexican. | ||
| The person speaking Spanish is speaking the language from Spain, but they're brown, they're Indians. | ||
| They're from, they're indigenous to this this country. | ||
| So what I'm saying is that how the way they feel the argument I hear just the same as I'm hearing your argument right now. | ||
| And I'm sure all of you can understand this. | ||
| They feel that they are from here. | ||
| This is their land and that's what they're going to fight for. | ||
| But then I think this is coming. | ||
| I think this is coming. | ||
| Is that you have people who take that identity, which is so strong to them because they're basing it on history, just like what I said, that and they're willing to fight for it versus So do you see the problem here? | ||
| Yeah, I think the problem is that both are coming. | ||
| They're both clashing right now. | ||
| Is that the average American doesn't think that way. | ||
| To the average American thinks, well, anyone can become an American as long as you believe in America. | ||
| I'm a bide by the laws of America. | ||
| And it's just it's it's going to come into that clash just to answer his question. | ||
| It's going to come into clash with people who have the older way of thinking. | ||
| If that argument, that argument is valid, if they're talking about their property and not just we belong to the land. | ||
| We don't do blood and soil here, right? | ||
| That's the argument that I'm making is we're not a blood and soil. | ||
| Like it's not about blood and soil. | ||
| The argument that if you're talking about the natives and they're saying this is how we're going to do it. | ||
| That's their argument, not mine. | ||
| But the point that I'm making is if they're going to make that argument, that's a blood and soil argument. | ||
| That's the same, like that is, that is we have a They're willing to fight for that. | ||
| I mean, look, they already lost. | ||
| They're actually losing. | ||
| Are they losing now? | ||
| They will. | ||
| If they want to fight about it. | ||
| It doesn't look like it. | ||
| Are they losing now? | ||
| Well, I would say no. | ||
| I mean, I think they're losing. | ||
| I think, I mean, you know, look at ICE, look at everything that's happening. | ||
| I mean, there's no more protests, there's no more riots. | ||
| If they were When you're hunkering down and hiding, you're not winning. | ||
| You're not winning. | ||
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No. | |
| I'd say, I don't know, I'd say, remember the Alamo. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But the point that I'm making, if they're if they own property and they're like, you're not kicking me out of my property, that's fine. | ||
| That's one argument. | ||
| That's an American argument. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| When you're making an argument, this is my land because my people. | ||
| My people, I'm just saying we have to No, no, no, no, that doesn't fly in America. | ||
| Right, that's unamerican. | ||
| Just like what he said, you know, the Mayflower, the Protestants, the, the, the whites coming here, that's you feel like that's what makes you more American, correct? | ||
| I think, no, I don't think so because he's poor. | ||
| Okay, but also, but what about the Mexicans and Indians that were here before them that are American and that were conquered in that part of America? | ||
| Yes, that's that's part of it. | ||
| They're also part of their American culture. | ||
| If they were there, but like the vast majority of Hispanic Americans migrated to the country post. | ||
| Well, no, a lot of them were, were fighting the settlers, no doubt about it. | ||
| Yeah, and you're talking about still the pockets. | ||
| Yeah, like there were a lot of Indians that joined the whites and fought against it, you know, they were they were fighting. | ||
| each other before the War. | ||
| The crazy thing is, these are all different parts of the story, right? | ||
| There's a lot of parts of the story. | ||
| These are a lot of parts make America, right? | ||
| And it has come that way. | ||
| And so what I'm saying is that the specific, when the idea that we go back to the Constitution and we argue these things out, and it's why I'm so particular about the words of the Constitution, it's why I get so upset when Marxists add words to the Constitution that were never there, that it's but at the same time, it's the understanding that that was written for a specific group of people in a specific time and place. | ||
| I was the only asshole with the headphones on. | ||
| on, so I took them down. | ||
| And we do well, we do need to take callers. | ||
| And so, you know, and this, and again, this is why the constitution was given a mechanism to expand as the country has expanded or adapt. | ||
| Let's talk to them. | ||
| I told Manic Mustache that I talked to them first. | ||
| My boy. | ||
| What's up, Manic Mustache? | ||
| How you doing? | ||
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Hello, everybody. | |
| It's your favorite mustache, your otaku. | ||
| I just had a I'm actually going to change my name to the migrant mustache because it feels like every time I call in, it's migration. | ||
| Awesome. | ||
| What's your day, man? | ||
| How you doing? | ||
| What's your take? | ||
| Do you have a take on this or do you have another question? | ||
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I mean, if you really want me to, if I could take a small bite, which is that my family was ran from this country years ago, went back to Mexico, came back and bought the land that was taken from my family. | |
| So that's the way it's supposed to be done, but that's a whole other conversation. | ||
| Property. | ||
| Property rights. | ||
| Property, oh. | ||
| Yeah, I served in the I served in the Navy with a guy who had a remarkably similar story. | ||
| The way he would put it was, you know, we didn't cross the border. | ||
| The border crossed us. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And those are the times from the 70s that they all that was the mantra of Mecha. | ||
| And then after the UFW came in and kind of tore that all to pieces, then you have a divided Chicano, Tejano and, you know, wet back culture. | ||
| True. | ||
| Mojave. | ||
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Okay, my question is actually after the recent tragedies in Florida and recent and Phil's recent disparity, disparaging remarks against truck driving industry, when is the government going to be held responsible for giving these basically incompetent people licenses? | |
| Because Phil's talking about destroying the company as someone who owns a company. | ||
| If I hire someone and I'm told that he has the credentials and then, you know. | ||
| And then the government who was supposed to protect me from these robber barons isn't doing their job. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So why aren't we hearing about the government officials and the agencies that should be held accountable? | ||
| I'm not right on this, Phil. | ||
| Are you going after the truckers, man? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So because the trucker that killed those three people in Florida, my argument is that's a migrant trucker. | ||
| That's not all truckers. | ||
| It's a migrant trucker. | ||
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He said that trucking is not a job. | |
| He said that truckers' lives matter. | ||
| I No, hold on, hold on, hold on. | ||
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If you're talking about Hong Kong, Hong Kong, the new fist. | |
| The new fist. | ||
| The point that I'm making is if you are an immigrant, right, a migrant, and you kill someone because of. | ||
| negligence like that guy did. | ||
| The government should go after the guy that owns the business that contracted the truck driver because he didn't make sure it wasn't hired the migrant. | ||
| Yeah, because he hired the migrant. | ||
| And I think that the government should take his trucks and auction those trucks off to his competition because he broke the law. | ||
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So I wonder if I can trace that person with good faith thinking that, hey, he has all the credentials. | |
| So go ahead, jump in the truck, big dog. | ||
| Well, I mean, look, so I understand your point and it's a point well taken. | ||
| And I do think that the federal government should do something about states like California. | ||
| So your point is well taken. | ||
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When is that going to happen? | |
| But, well, I don't know when that's going to happen. | ||
| I'm not in the administration, man. | ||
| I'm just a guy that's talking. | ||
| So, but the point is, right? | ||
| Like the government should go after the people that are actually committing the crimes and their employers. | ||
| If you employ a person and, and honestly, in this context, it doesn't work that way because the guy couldn't read English, right? | ||
| So, like, okay, fine. | ||
| Like he's got the paperwork, but you can figure out that he can't speak English well. | ||
| And if he can't speak English, can he read it? | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Let's let's actually, yeah. | ||
| So you're, so you're, you know, you have, you say you have a company, you have employees. | ||
| When, when, when. | ||
| When employees come to you, if they're on a visa, what sort of things do you look for when you're hiring someone? | ||
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Well, I mean, if you're No, I'm asking a colleague. | |
| Yeah, you look for all the required paperwork. | ||
| We take your paperwork. | ||
| We have a payroll company. | ||
| So you have, like, if they are an immigrant that's here on a visa, for example, you take that, you submit that to our payroll company. | ||
| They say, hey, everything checks out. | ||
| They're good to go. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Welcome aboard, Jose. | ||
| Or even I've got a Vincent, all right? | ||
| This guy's from Ukraine. | ||
| And I know you guys love the blondes and the Slavs and whatnot. | ||
| So I kept one on for you guys. | ||
| No, they got a guy too. | ||
| I'm married to one. | ||
| Not a Vincent though. | ||
| I don't care where they're from, they just have to go if they're not allowed. | ||
| Well, so, no, well, let me ask you this. | ||
| So let's get into the liability question then. | ||
| Do you think, or have you ever heard of anyone who's been in a situation like this where they did start, where the government did start looking at the, about the employer because of something one of their truckers did? | ||
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I don't, like I said, I'm not truck, I'm not into the truck industry anymore, but in my industry, yeah, you have a lot of companies that are actually dumping these guys who they're going back to their payroll and going, oh, this guy, he's worked here before. | |
| Sorry guy, you got to kick rocks because you've had two social security numbers before. | ||
| So if anything, it's helping these, it's helping guys like us be competitive with the big guys because now they have to actually hire people that are of this country. | ||
| Because like a little guy like me, I have to make sure that every time like if a guy gets deported and I find out he gets deported because his, you know, paperwork wasn't right and then he comes back with a different, you know, paperwork. | ||
| Well, it's like, bro, I can't hire you. | ||
| You know that. | ||
| Like, right. | ||
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I know you're not Jose this time. | |
| Your name is Rodrigo, my guy. | ||
| Right, but you still have to have, you have to carry a liability insurance for your truckers, right? |
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