Aug. 27, 2025 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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| All right, folks, we're back, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| Welcome aboard another edition of the Posto Cash Jack Pesobic, your host of Human Events Daily, here live, filling in for the great Tim Poole. | ||
| Tim is on the men. | ||
| And you know, I see all these people, the conspiracy theory out there is that Tim Poole is dead. | ||
| No, Tim is not dead like Paul McCartney, who totally died all those years ago during the Beatles. | ||
| No, Tim is not dead at all. | ||
| As we know, Phil has him tied up in the basement. | ||
| Isn't that right, Phil? | ||
| I can neither confirm nor deny that. | ||
| Yeah, see, there we go. | ||
| Look, look, all I'm guys, all I'm saying is Phil, he's kind of a big guy and he's good with knots. | ||
| So, I mean, you know, you know, anyway, look, we got a huge show tonight. | ||
| We've got so much going on. | ||
| There's a ton happening out in the world. | ||
| You know, I want to get in, of course, obviously, we've got to rock this first story. | ||
| We kind of touched on it yesterday regarding the 600,000 Chinese student visas. | ||
| This comment that was made has absolutely set the internet on fire. | ||
| There is a MAGA backlash and uproar, if you will, to this. | ||
| And it comes on the same day that a Chinese student, a doctoral student, has been accused of stealing confidential U.S. government research in the United States. | ||
| So it's a crazy story. | ||
| We're going to get into that. | ||
| We're going to get into, of course, charges on Shiloh Hendricks, which is a massive story out of Rochester, Minnesota. | ||
| We're also going to get into this viral video, insane video out of Scotland of a young girl having to defend herself with battle axes against a couple of migrants, her and her sister. | ||
| By the way, Cracker Barrel, going back to the old logo, shout out to all the people who shout out to all the haters from yesterday. | ||
| It worked. | ||
| All right. | ||
| It worked. | ||
| Shout out to Tate on that, by the way, who chimped out like an absolute champ for pretty much a week straight. | ||
| It was rough. | ||
| Yeah, it was a lot. | ||
| You realize that you have to only eat Cracker Barrow for a year now. | ||
| Yeah, I know what I signed up for. | ||
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Okay. | |
| All right. | ||
| Pancakes are great. | ||
| The pancakes are great. | ||
| Pancakes are great. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| It's Cracker Brewer. | ||
| Table, let us know. | ||
| We got lunch. | ||
| We got a bunch of other good stories. | ||
| So we're getting into it all tonight. | ||
| We're absolutely getting into it all. | ||
| I want to go in. | ||
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| Another piece that I wanted to get to, and I'm remiss. | ||
| I am remiss for not knowing this yesterday. | ||
| We should have checked. | ||
| Yesterday in the member section, we were talking about Psycho Stew, better known as Stuart Smith, the boxer in this hyper viral video that's going out with Rampage Jackson's son, Raja Jackson. | ||
| We didn't realize that Psycho Sue, I didn't realize this, that he had to go fund me. | ||
| So guys, let's go in here and do everything we can. | ||
| Let's donate as much as possible to Psycho Stew. | ||
| Serge, get the link out so that people can see it. | ||
| I think you just go to GoFundMe. | ||
| You can support PsychoStew. | ||
| It's spelled S-Y-K-O-S-T-U. | ||
| Want to get into that story a little bit. | ||
| Shout out to Mr. Beast, by the way, top donation of $10,000 that's gone in, but only 3,000 people have donated thus far. | ||
| It's at about, it just broke $100,000, so it's at $112,000 right now. | ||
| Let's do everything we can for this guy because this is, you know, it's a horrible thing to see, but it's absolutely something that deserves to be helped with. | ||
| But we have got a great show tonight, and we have a guest who's going to talk about that and possibly a lot more because folks, I believe, first time on Timcast, right? | ||
| First time. | ||
| First time, first time. | ||
| David Nino Rodriguez. | ||
| And I've had you on my show. | ||
| And you've been on my show, right? | ||
| So it's, yeah, we did the show last year. | ||
| So it's not our first show, but it's our first time on Tim Show. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| I'm kind of upset. | ||
| I wanted to see Tim. | ||
| Not that I did not want to see you. | ||
| Yeah, we all. | ||
| I'm kind of looking forward to seeing Tim. | ||
| Tim is absolutely alive, by the way. | ||
| I can't believe that people would think that Tim is not dead. | ||
| He's definitely not dead. | ||
| Tim's fine. | ||
| Totally fine. | ||
| In the basement. | ||
| Tell people a little about yourself and kind of how you got started doing this. | ||
| Well, yeah, I mean, I just kind of transferred arena. | ||
| I've been a fighter my whole life. | ||
| I was a top 10 heavyweight contender champion, boxer, 36-0 at my peak. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Had two run-ins with death in 2011. | ||
| I got knifed. | ||
| I overdosed on drugs. | ||
| All right. | ||
| I was a partier. | ||
| I was juggling with both extremes, many extremes. | ||
| Died twice in 2011, flatlined. | ||
| Once I'm overdosing on drugs, the other time I took a knife to the neck coming out of a bar, they slit my throat and I almost died there. | ||
| Came back and didn't have a successful comeback after that. | ||
| And my life changed. | ||
| My whole life got nuked. | ||
| So they didn't take my life. | ||
| They took my career. | ||
| And I was forced to pivot and do something else. | ||
| So I had to reinvent myself. | ||
| I could have stayed in boxing. | ||
| I could have been a trainer. | ||
| I could have done all that stuff. | ||
| But I just felt compelled to go into the world of not, I would like to say I kind of follow the deep state war on the politics going on behind the scenes. | ||
| That's what I follow. | ||
| And that's really where that just attracted to me. | ||
| So would you say I recognize strategy? | ||
| So would you say that those experiences that you went through, you know, led you to see those same kind of patterns happening? | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Yeah, yes. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I can see strategy. | ||
| I can see patterns. | ||
| And I just fell into it and my podcast took off. | ||
| It's Nino's Corner.tv and it really exploded on the scene. | ||
| And I'm still going, man. | ||
| I'm still watching everything. | ||
| And I think it's just absolutely, for me, it's unbelievable to see how Trump is, quote unquote, beating the odds where he's at right now and seeing everything that's happening. | ||
| But I see strategy. | ||
| I see brilliance and I see an operation. | ||
| We had a great, I remember doing Nino's Corner last year when we were doing the push for the Unhumans book and we had a great interview. | ||
| So let's have another one tonight. | ||
| Yeah, people love you, man. | ||
| Ah, they're good. | ||
| But let's go around the horn. | ||
| And here's a guy that I have not seen in ages. | ||
| It's a lot. | ||
| What's up, man? | ||
| Good evening, everyone. | ||
| Why are we both so tan today? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I didn't think Polex could get that dark. | ||
| Oh, I get even darker than this, brother. | ||
| I get even darker. | ||
| People will mistake me for Raja Jackson by the end. | ||
| So good evening, everybody. | ||
| My name's Alad Eliyahu. | ||
| I'm the White House correspondent here at Timcast. | ||
| Tate, what's up? | ||
| What's up, everybody? | ||
| Tate Brown here, holding it down. | ||
| You like that's a new catchphrase, I think. | ||
| It's going to work. | ||
| Yeah, filled in for telling people that it's a new catchphrase to work. | ||
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Make it work. | |
| Yeah, to really hammer at home. | ||
| And we had a morning show. | ||
| We had a great interview today with Congressman Tim Burchett. | ||
| You got to go check that out. | ||
| It was excellent. | ||
| Yeah, so go check that out. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Hello, everybody. | ||
| My name is Philabonte. | ||
| I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal hand All That Remains. | ||
| I'm an anti-communist and counter-revolutionary. | ||
| Let's get into it. | ||
| Let's get into it. | ||
| Yeah, so Aladdin I, by the way, we were at the White House pretty much all day today. | ||
| They were doing a media row. | ||
| But God bless them. | ||
| But the reason we were out there so long is because they were having this cabinet meeting, which they said, okay, they're going to have the cabinet meeting and then members of the cabinet will come out and you guys can interview them and it's going to be great. | ||
| And so, you know, do we set up? | ||
| We bring cameras. | ||
| We do the whole thing. | ||
| And they're like, okay, we're pretty sure the meeting's going to be maybe an hour and a half, maybe two hours, Max. | ||
| Okay, maybe two and a half. | ||
| Or maybe three. | ||
| It went three and a half hours. | ||
| So a lot and I, we spent almost four hours out there. | ||
| At least it was on the South Lawn. | ||
| It's a good place to be left out to dry. | ||
| We were chilling on the South Lawn. | ||
| Chilling like overlooking the Oval Office. | ||
| Trump did peep out. | ||
| President Trump did peep out at one point. | ||
| But I had a great interview with Director CI, not CIA, what is it? | ||
| ICE Director Lyons. | ||
| I think you also had an interview. | ||
| Yeah, I got to sit down with him. | ||
| And so we'll put that out soon. | ||
| But anything at the White House, I feel like it's a great opportunity. | ||
| No, no, no, it's incredible. | ||
| And there's something that I feel that this White House is never going to get credit for. | ||
| And they're doing so even more than the first term. | ||
| I mean, they're so accessible. | ||
| They're really so accessible. | ||
| And they let you talk to the directors and the secretaries on a very one-to-one basis. | ||
| And they're so open. | ||
| And I would absolutely encourage anybody who's out there. | ||
| Nino, got to get you in there, man. | ||
| Well, can I just say something? | ||
| I forgot to tell you, you know, you got to go. | ||
| I don't want to go. | ||
| I don't want, I will go, but I just want to say one thing. | ||
| I don't want people thinking that you're all sitting here with a degenerate. | ||
| And I just, I got to catch myself. | ||
| I've been six years sober. | ||
| There you go, man. | ||
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There you go. | |
| That's great. | ||
| I got to make sure. | ||
| I got to clear the room here. | ||
| I got to clear the air. | ||
| I don't want people to be like, damn, they got a degenerate. | ||
| I'll take the degenerate title. | ||
| I'm not sober yet. | ||
| So six years. | ||
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I learned my lesson. | |
| Tate was about to ask you where you're going tonight. | ||
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What's the mission? | |
| Twitter. | ||
| Twitter. | ||
| He's like West Virginia Knights. | ||
| I was like, I don't know if he's the right person to go to a bar with, but it's Tuesday night. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| 8 a.m. somewhere. | ||
| I'm going to white Twitters. | ||
| I've been in a touring metal band for 20 years. | ||
| You've seen it all. | ||
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All right, cool. | |
| You're not the only guy. | ||
| You're not only one knife. | ||
| You're the pussy. | ||
| I just go to Cracker Barrel. | ||
| So, you know, that's pretty much my, that's pretty, I'm in the rocking chair. | ||
| They actually, they actually based the logo of Cracker Barrel off of me because I'm just the guy who's out there with the barrel. | ||
| Hashtag RealCracker. | ||
| Hashtag Real Cracker. | ||
| But no, folks, we've got to get into this because so we mentioned the story yesterday. | ||
| It had come up and I think over the last 24 hours, it's absolutely just taken over the internet in a huge firestorm. | ||
| Trump says the U.S. would accept 600,000 Chinese students, sparking uproar among some conservatives. | ||
| They talk about rep Marjorie Taylor Green. | ||
| This is an NBC article, conservative influencer Laura Loomer blasting the idea. | ||
| By the way, they keep pointing out that NBC has got this picture up of President Trump and they're talking about the Chinese students. | ||
| Of course, this is the president of South Korea. | ||
| It is not the president of China in the picture. | ||
| Now, of course, now, to be fair, to be fair, they're doing that because that's the meeting he was in when he made the comments. | ||
| But at the same time, like if I was at human events or post-millennial, if I were doing graphics, I'd probably say, I just, I feel like it doesn't make sense to include him in this picture because the story is not about him. | ||
| I can understand the mistake. | ||
| Oh, no, no. | ||
| Don't say it. | ||
| But then, wait, but wait, wait, plot twist. | ||
| Wait, plot twist. | ||
| The author is Kimmy Yam. | ||
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Oh, wow. | |
| So it sounds like an Asian author. | ||
| So plot twists, maybe we're cool. | ||
| Maybe we're cool. | ||
| Inside job, exactly. | ||
| Didn't the president of South Korea float the idea of Trump Hotel in North Korea today? | ||
| He mentioned it. | ||
| Yeah, in the meeting, he mentions it and he says, I hope we have the idea. | ||
| Well, so this new party of South Korea is a very pro-unification party, and they have been accused of a lot of ties to the CCP. | ||
| So they have a totally different line on North Korea than the other party, which is much more conservative, much more combative, much more anti-CCP, anti-communist. | ||
| And so there's, you know, that's one of the things. | ||
| He's saying, well, you know, we want denuclearization, but we also want the Trump Tower and we want this and we want that and unification. | ||
| And wouldn't it be great if Beijing Tit, wait, wait, what? | ||
| What did you say? | ||
| You know, so he'd probably be totally cool with the Chinese students, but let's get into this because this is what I asked and I was checking this. | ||
| So 600,000 Chinese student visas. | ||
| I'm against that for sure. | ||
| I don't think we need this. | ||
| And we talked about this last night, but they pay full freight. | ||
| This is a huge cash cow for the universities. | ||
| So just right off its bat, if it helps the universities, it's something that I want. | ||
| It's a money thing. | ||
| 100% is a money thing. | ||
| I mean, and this comes on the heels of that student that was giving away secrets, correct? | ||
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Right. | |
| So I was just going to mention that. | ||
| So that happens on the same day. | ||
| But I wanted to get into it and just let's put the scope of this real quick here. | ||
| What is the current number of Chinese students? | ||
| So the current number is just under 300,000. | ||
| So it's about 300,000 that are here. | ||
| This is a doubling of the Chinese student population in the United States or would be a doubling, which is also, by the way, there's so many Republicans that have been fighting against this. | ||
| Marco Rubio has talked about this, the Secretary of State, so many other policymakers. | ||
| Now, what's interesting is the White House has not responded to comments on this. | ||
| And so, look, you know, there's been a lot of times where President Trump has said something specifically regarding visas in one of these meetings where it doesn't really turn into policy from the White House. | ||
| I'm wondering if this is going to be one of those conversations, one of those times, but we still have to talk about it. | ||
| So, yeah, Nina, you were mentioning the other side of it where there was a guy who was a kid who was just, I believe, charged, right? | ||
| He was charged. | ||
| So he's actually been charged today down in Texas for attempting to steal research funded by the U.S. government and taking it back to his native China. | ||
| Is this the first time this has happened, Nino? | ||
| Look, I come from the border, right? | ||
| I'm from El Paso, Texas. | ||
| I'm watching people get kicked out of their homes, abuelos, grandfathers that have families here that have, you know, kids and then that are Americanized that speak only English, and then they have grandkids that speak only English, and they're getting ready to deport the grandpa, you know, and then you're going to let in 600,000 Chinese students. | ||
| That's just so hypocritical. | ||
| To me, I just see, from an ethical standpoint, I see something completely wrong with this, especially if they're the ones giving out the secrets. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| I mean, what's the Abuelo doing in El Paso? | ||
| You know, that's just trying to live his life. | ||
| I mean, I think we've got to come to a middle range here to where we can argue the point of certain people staying, like a grandfather who's here, who's been here for 30-something years. | ||
| And look, I see you shaking your head. | ||
| And I'm with it. | ||
| But when you come to this, when you bring this up, you're going to let 600,000 Chinese in. | ||
| I mean, from a humanitarian point of view, I'm just saying I'm with you on this, bro. | ||
| The Chinese are actual adversary. | ||
| So allowing 600,000 Chinese nationals into the United States is a terrible thing. | ||
| I'm saying I'm against it. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| I'm against it. | ||
| I'm totally against it. | ||
| But I'm saying, like, what do you tell the grandfather? | ||
| You're going to allow them in, but what are you telling the Abuelo who's sitting at home with his kids and grandkids? | ||
| You got to go back to best. | ||
| He's been here 30 years. | ||
| He's done nothing. | ||
| He come in here illegally? | ||
| Correct. | ||
| Well, that's the wrong thing. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| And on paper, these guys would be illegal. | ||
| And dude, I'm with you on that. | ||
| I'm with you on that. | ||
| I'm just. | ||
| How do you argue that? | ||
| Well, that's how I'd argue. | ||
| I mean, I wouldn't be making the argument because I would never accept such nationalism. | ||
| Dude, I'm on either side. | ||
| Just letting you guys know. | ||
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It's cool. | |
| I mean, I've got to say, in that case, why not both? | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| So you understand what I'm saying? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| How about go home or in Chinese? | ||
| Hui Tia. | ||
| Hui Ta. | ||
| I'm a little bit ambivalent on the issue, and I want to steal men Trump's case here. | ||
| He did actually have more recent comments on this where he said, I told President Xi that we're honored to have his students here. | ||
| And now with that, we'll check them. | ||
| We'll be very careful to see who it is on the concerns of them potentially being spies or stealing information. | ||
| So it's a couple of things at hand here that we should explore further. | ||
| You mentioned it, again, the universities. | ||
| These foreign students pay full tuition, Which is usually roughly at least double what like somebody who's in state would pay for a lot of these schools. | ||
| And a lot of these So we actually have in the article, I've got a number for you, just to add to the steel man, I guess. | ||
| Chinese students contributed in 2023. | ||
| So is it what's the source for this, though? | ||
| NBC is claiming it, but there's no source. | ||
| So NBC claims there's no source, but they're claiming that Chinese students contributed $14 billion to the U.S. economy. | ||
| So here's the thing. | ||
| I'd like to know where that comes from. | ||
| So whatever they contribute to tuition is one thing. | ||
| Then there's like the total economic picture of what else they contribute here because when these people are here, they need to shop. | ||
| They need to eat food. | ||
| They need to buy things. | ||
| And that's what they do. | ||
| So they contribute to the economy. | ||
| So there's like that monetary value. | ||
| It's a huge subsidy to these colleges. | ||
| I went to the university at Buffalo. | ||
| It felt like half the college were these Chinese and Indian students. | ||
| But without them, these colleges wouldn't be able to survive. | ||
| There's something to say about the soft power aspect of this. | ||
| Well, I think we have something that's consistent with the people. | ||
| That's what Santa Lutnick has been arguing. | ||
| Yeah, there's a cultural aspect to this. | ||
| Most people don't want to go to, there is some people who shop around schools all around planet Earth, but the best schools generally that foreign students want to go to are schools in the United States. | ||
| And the cultural impact of some of your best and brightest from foreign countries coming here, ingratiating yourself with American values and then taking that home. | ||
| I think there's something to say about that soft power. | ||
| President Xi's daughter famously, I believe, went to Harvard for X amount of years and the influence there could be untold. | ||
| So I think we should also think of this in terms of the trade deficit that we have with China. | ||
| This is essentially a trade item that could help balance that trade imbalance as well. | ||
| And I think that's why they're going for a doubling. | ||
| So while I do have concerns about the security aspect, I think these are rich Chinese people coming here with fat wallets. | ||
| And I think these are probably the most Western of Chinese people to begin with who would even consider coming here. | ||
| I know you spent some time in China yourself. | ||
| About two years, yeah. | ||
| You know, what do you think about Trump using this as kind of in the aspect of trade? | ||
| Not too concerned, using this as a tool to kind of try to leverage with President Xi. | ||
| I think that it would in a vacuum, you know, maybe I would say, you know, that's a good point. | ||
| But, you know, in the past 20, 30 years since the globalist project has been set up, our relationship with China has been absolutely toxic for this country. | ||
| And it has deprived so many people of their jobs in terms of the manufacturing that's been outsourced at the blue collar level. | ||
| And what we're talking about here is depriving people of a pathway to a better life if you would have had the ability to make it into one of these schools. | ||
| But you're, you know, you're some kid from the Midwest. | ||
| And so you're applying maybe for scholarships or whatever it is, and you can't get one because they want that spot to go to some scion of the CCP elite that is able to pay full freight. | ||
| So they're going to come in. | ||
| And to your point about the CCPs, you know, sending their kids here, Zhang Zemin's grandson went to UPenn like 20 years ago. | ||
| And so this, you know, this has been going on for quite some time. | ||
| We haven't seen any shift in the CCP. | ||
| And if anything, they've become more authoritarian. | ||
| Zhang Zemin and Hu Jintao were more technocratic, whereas Xi Jinping is much more authoritarian and certainly has been since he's taken power in 2012 and has remained and perhaps will be the Chinese, you know, the chairman of the party until long after we're all dead because he's going to be keeping himself immortal with Chinese power. | ||
| And so if anything, we've become more like China since this globalist relationship has begun. | ||
| And so, you know, when I look at something like this, again, I still say, what is best for the American people first? | ||
| See, that's what I have a problem with. | ||
| I mean, the World Economic Forum, Klaus Schwab, has said that the model for the world is China, the CCP China. | ||
| So here we are letting in 600,000 of them. | ||
| I just, I'm sorry. | ||
| I just, I see a lot of things wrong with it. | ||
| And I think it's very hypocritical. | ||
| And I'm a Trump supporter all the way. | ||
| People don't get it wrong. | ||
| I am. | ||
| But I'm going to call things out when I don't agree with it. | ||
| Just like everyone here, I'm pretty sure everyone agrees with me on this on this one, right? | ||
| And all I was saying was about the Mexican grandpa at home who's done nothing wrong. | ||
| Then, you know, doing it for some and not all of them. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| You can't just pick and choose to me. | ||
| I mean, you keep saying that. | ||
| It's just such a very, no, listen, hold on. | ||
| I do agree that you got to come here legally, no doubt about it. | ||
| But I mean, if we, if we're really looking at the real numbers, we're looking at, what, 30, 40 million illegals here in America? | ||
| So funny enough, a lot and I both interviewed the ICE director today, and you asked him about that number as well, right? | ||
| He couldn't even give us a solid number on how many are here. | ||
| I asked him how many have they detained and deported so far, and what are their goals? | ||
| I don't think anybody in the Trump cabinet is trying to get ahead of Trump himself, though, and they don't want to have those numbers held against them. | ||
| So I don't think they're trying to be firm in the middle of the day. | ||
| Can I say something I've noticed? | ||
| But you'd think that as I imagine, though, as ICE, they probably, you know, have a number, right? | ||
| Obviously, they know how many have been deported, but I think there's probably a number that they have that's that's sort of a working operational number. | ||
| But, you know, for reasons like that and also legal reasons, they're probably not putting it out publicly. | ||
| But I think they do have a number. | ||
| But I will probably around 30 million. | ||
| I will tell you, though, that they are striking fear into them because they're not moving around like they should. | ||
| When I go to the airports from El Paso to San Antonio, wherever I'm flying, it used to be packed to the gills. | ||
| And now, dude, there's like 80 to 100 seats open and flights are like, they're cutting down the flights now. | ||
| They're not flying. | ||
| Yeah, they're not moving. | ||
| They're like in a frozen state right now. | ||
| But the word is on the street, you know, in El Paso, everyone's like, they're just going to wait it out till Trump is gone. | ||
| They're pretty confident that, yeah, that's really what they're saying. | ||
| Dude, my homie's nanny, they don't let her go to the park because they're scared she's going to get to your to your point. | ||
| That's why like my opinion is the United, the federal government or not, well, the federal government should come down on people that employ illegals really hard and people that rent housing to illegals. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Because if their option or their decision is to just walk down, that's what they're doing. | ||
| Hide, they're not going to leave. | ||
| So the next thing, because I don't, I've said this a bunch of times. | ||
| I don't want to see ICE agents kicking in people's doors because, first of all, it's bad for just optics, right? | ||
| Like nobody wants to see grandma or grandpa getting drug out of their bed by dudes in body armor. | ||
| That's just not something that anyone wants to see on the internet. | ||
| It upsets Karen. | ||
| Karen gets all mad. | ||
| She's on the ship. | ||
| She's at Home Depot. | ||
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| She gets that Walmart. | ||
| She's up in people's faces. | ||
| Then you have to put Karen in flex cuffs. | ||
| And then that's a whole disaster. | ||
| So you don't want to do that to anybody at all. | ||
| So make it hard for them to stay. | ||
| That way you don't have to have police interactions with them. | ||
| Well, that's the real ID, right? | ||
| I mean, that's the first part of this, right? | ||
| The real ID, I would imagine. | ||
| I mean, maybe, but like, that's why, like I said, I want to see people that are actually losing their businesses if they're hiring people if they're losing property. | ||
| Just to just answer his point, that I've had it told to me because when real ID was coming around and the Trump administration has sort of been, you know, they didn't come up with the, it's been on the books for, you know, a long time, but they are sort of administering this rollout. | ||
| And I asked around and, you know, sort of on background, you know, what's the deal? | ||
| Like this, this thing is kind of unpopular. | ||
| Why are we, you know, why are we still doing it? | ||
| And that was sort of the response that I had was, you know, they do think it's something where, look, if you're an illegal, there's no way you're walking in and you have to present all those documents to get a basic ID, to get on planes, to go to go. | ||
| You'll be taken down right there and you're out. | ||
| Yeah, they know they can't get them. | ||
| So, again, it's part of that idea of ratcheting things up. | ||
| But nobody's self-deporting. | ||
| He's giving that option, like, well, if you self-deport, they're not going to do that. | ||
| What do you think about what do you think about this thought that people are saying, you know, some kind of stipend to self-deport? | ||
| They're not. | ||
| I'm telling you right now, I'm in El Paso. | ||
| I know what I'm hearing. | ||
| Nobody's self-deporting. | ||
| I don't see their poor self-deporting. | ||
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No, I think they would take it. | |
| No, because it took so long to get here and they're just going to wait it out. | ||
| They really believe Trump is going to be gone. | ||
| Like, they believe everyone's going to be fed up with him. | ||
| You got Gavin Newsom running his mouth, Beth Do Rourke. | ||
| I mean, they're like the cheerleaders amping these people up. | ||
| It's so wrong. | ||
| It's a humanitarian crisis, all this stuff. | ||
| They're going to wait it out. | ||
| They're going to wait it out. | ||
| And I don't see anything happening in El Paso that's any different. | ||
| I know that there've been some tunnels here and there that have been intercepted and stuff like that. | ||
| But really, from everyone that I know of, everyone's waiting it out. | ||
| Don't you think if they just crank up taxes on remittances, that would force laws to return. | ||
| But these people, I mean, they're living just under the radar, bro, just scraping by, and they're going to stay here and just hunker down. | ||
| Yeah, that's what I'm just curious is what would be the incentive for them to stay if remittances or taxes on remittances are sky high. | ||
| Maybe they could do a workaround with just using cash. | ||
| But you could use cryptocurrencies. | ||
| But it's still better here. | ||
| It's still better here than where they came from. | ||
| Where they came from, there's murder, there's crime, violent crime. | ||
| Families are getting killed. | ||
| The gang problem is still out of control. | ||
| Third world problems are third world problems. | ||
| Coming here, it's still better, even if they have to be homeless. | ||
| So that's their argument. | ||
| They don't want to go back to that. | ||
| It's a terrible life. | ||
| It's a terrible life. | ||
| So we've got to think of some other ways to ratchet. | ||
| You got to heat the pot so that the frog jumps out. | ||
| That's why you have to make it illegal to rent to them so they can't find homes. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| Make it illegal. | ||
| Well, not make it illegal, but punish the people that rent to them and give them to them. | ||
| Punish the landlords. | ||
| Yeah, punish the people that employ them as well. | ||
| That's the only way. | ||
| And this is something that I've talked about this a bunch of times, but this is something Democrats say all the time. | ||
| Oh, well, how come you don't go after the business owners? | ||
| How come you don't go after blah, blah, blah. | ||
| Yeah, go after them. | ||
| Everything. | ||
| I believe in all options. | ||
| With you. | ||
| This is something that I did actually ask to the ICE director earlier today. | ||
| We're going to be releasing this in a little while, but sorry, you can see the whole thing on Human Events Daily, but I am going to mention what he said. | ||
| So he, you know, I said this. | ||
| I said, you know, I've noticed the way they're targeting some of these raids. | ||
| It seems that when the businesses are getting raided, it seems like you guys are actually going after the business owners even more than just the workers. | ||
| And like, yeah, maybe some of the workers will get rolled up. | ||
| But I said, are you targeting immigration fraud? | ||
| And they said, absolutely. | ||
| He said, he confirmed. | ||
| I was surprised that he confirmed that because I haven't seen any operational statement out there saying that they're making that the priority for ICE enforcement. | ||
| But he said, we're absolutely looking at for these flagrant, you know, and it could be a supermarket. | ||
| It could be a slaughterhouse, whatever it might be, that it's, they know the places, right? | ||
| They know the places that are doing the hiring. | ||
| They know the places that are putting out the fake IDs, the stolen social security numbers, this idea, oh, they don't access benefits. | ||
| Cut the crap. | ||
| Like, we know they're accessing benefits. | ||
| It's not hard to get a fake social security number. | ||
| And then to your point, right? | ||
| Then their kids who, if they're born here, they get to go to school. | ||
| They get to access all that. | ||
| So they sort of have the indirect access to the welfare net that we had the broader social safety net that we have in this country. | ||
| And so it's a total joke, which I think ABC was saying it the other day there that they're so upset that illegal aliens aren't are having their kids are being worried about pulled out of school. | ||
| I said, wait a minute. | ||
| So you admit that they're accessing public benefits, even though you're I will say that I've noticed the schools have less kids, man. | ||
| Like when I'm going through the certain streets to get to my house, this one, it used to get flooded with kids and now it's like just like nothing. | ||
| Like hardly any kids coming out of the school now. | ||
| So I know, dude, just watching this like take place. | ||
| Have you done any content down there? | ||
| Have you like gone around and filmed and stuff? | ||
| I went down to the border to show what a joke it is before the before Trump really took it. | ||
| I mean since Cincy Trump has come back. | ||
| Yeah, I went down to the border and I was going to show the razor that was there that Biden put in. | ||
| A cheap razor that was there and it was a joke. | ||
| And I showed up and man, military guys came out immediately, like within two minutes and put guns to me. | ||
| And I was like, yo. | ||
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| I was like, this is good. | ||
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Good. | |
| You all passed? | ||
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I was just checking. | |
| And you did that recently? | ||
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| Yeah. | ||
| This was about three months ago. | ||
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Okay. | |
| A couple of years ago. | ||
| About three months ago. | ||
| And I got there. | ||
| They were like, yeah, man, you can't be here. | ||
| This and that. | ||
| And I'm like, I'm out, dude. | ||
| Hey, I'm a Trump. | ||
| I love it. | ||
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| Operational control of the border. | ||
| Dude, and you know what? | ||
| There was a dude in a camouflage tent. | ||
| I mean, they were all sitting out there and I didn't even see the guy. | ||
| And so they got me. | ||
| And you were on the U.S. going that way. | ||
| Yeah, you're on the U.S. side. | ||
| They got me real quick, and they were asking me all kinds of questions. | ||
| Like, yo, I was like, man, I was just doing content for Instagram and I'm out, guys. | ||
| All good. | ||
| You all passed. | ||
| Now, how close to town was that? | ||
| That was, you know, where Paisano is. | ||
| You know, we're exactly where the kind of where we build the wall of that area, kind of. | ||
| They jump past that? | ||
| Yeah, just right off Paisano, the street Paisano. | ||
| That used to be the most dangerous stretch of freeway in America. | ||
| I remember them saying that when I was there, yeah. | ||
| It was bad. | ||
| They used to, so before the wall was there, they used to go put rocks or two by fours and nails and cars would hit them. | ||
| Pop, pop, pop. | ||
| And then the kids from the other side would do a carjacking, kill people. | ||
| I mean, it was brutal. | ||
| So they were doing car jack. | ||
| They were coming from Mexico, taking the carjacking. | ||
| Then they would rob the trains. | ||
| So they drive the car back or just like get there. | ||
| They would just get the crap out of the car and shoot somebody and run back. | ||
| And it was that easy. | ||
| It happened all the time. | ||
| Absolutely insane. | ||
| Anything else you guys want to add about the Chinese students? | ||
| Or is there anyone who would have mixed, I mean, a lot gave the best steel man. | ||
| But when it comes to it, look, you know, people will say, you know, oh, MAGA is always in lockstep with Trump. | ||
| But I just don't think that's the case. | ||
| And I think you can point to issue after issue where that hasn't been shown. | ||
| I think this is indicative of a larger anti-immigrant, both legal and illegal trend that we're seeing on the right and then both in the elements of moderates, independence, and the left as well. | ||
| I mean, we talked about the reason, though, right? | ||
| Like, so the idea that they're bringing people into the country so that way they can count them in the census. | ||
| These people tend to, you know, concentrate in urban areas. | ||
| That means that you're more than likely going to have the urban areas get more people in the census. | ||
| That means more representatives in Congress, most likely Democrat representatives. | ||
| This is the reason why I don't want immigrants is because it's taking voting power away from the American people. | ||
| It has nothing to do with who they are. | ||
| Now, when it comes to the Chinese, I think that they're a threat because I know that China is an adversary of the United States. | ||
| I don't have the false notion that they're like just a rival or we're going to work together on something. | ||
| China doesn't look at the United States that way. | ||
| And the United States cannot look at China that way because China doesn't look at us that way. | ||
| So the thing that I don't want I want to see is no Chinese students coming in unless they're and actually no, not at all, like none, because they're a national security threat. | ||
| I think we do need to make a distinction between the CCP and the regular Chinese person. | ||
| There is no distinction. | ||
| I think there is. | ||
| China can call on people and say, look, you do this. | ||
| And if you don't, we're going to put your family. | ||
| Nationals who hate the Chinese government. | ||
| I don't think that it matters because they'll go after their family in China. | ||
| And certainly, by the way, there's obviously a distinction, but when we're talking about a lot of these colleges that are Ivy League, you do have to have the money to be able to afford this. | ||
| So, typically, you are getting elites. | ||
| And you have to be a member of the CCP, you know, or you have to have family that are members of the CCP. | ||
| And the fact, like I said, it doesn't matter what the individual thinks. | ||
| It doesn't matter because if they have family back home that they love in China, then that's where they apply the pressure. | ||
| Xi Jinping has no problem doing that. | ||
| He will put his thumb on your grandma if you don't listen. | ||
| He will put his thumb on your brother, your mom, whatever, if you don't, you know, he'll lock you in your home. | ||
| It's 100% a national security threat. | ||
| I don't think that they need to have these students here on visas, although you could argue the most important place to have them would be in the universities. | ||
| But if they want, they could, if you want to have a sophisticated Chinese spy from the CCP, you could come into the country illegally. | ||
| I'm sure it would be very easy for them to get fake documents or pretend they're another Chinese person. | ||
| I've heard stories about them coming across the Darien Gap and stuff. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Well, that's why I'm kind of arguing that them coming here on student visas wouldn't be the biggest threat. | ||
| If they wanted to come in as spies, they could do so through the southern border and then infiltrate with their intelligence. | ||
| But when you're talking about stealing research, it's all about placement and access. | ||
| So when you're talking about spycraft, so if you're if your PA is already at you know MIT or one of these research laboratories, I mean, these universities are where the research is happening and in many cases, of course, being done with government funding or perhaps on proprietary, you know, you know, what any kind of technology. | ||
| Obviously, we've talked a lot about the biotech transfer between the U.S. and China. | ||
| So it's clearly part of a toxic relationship that we have with China, and that's why I'm against it. | ||
| Well, they get busted in Germany and the UK and France for this all the time, too. | ||
| This is a problem in universities across the world. | ||
| And the embassy or the consulate will put pressure on the students because what they'll do is, here's how it works: they'll track you, right? | ||
| They'll track the students, and then they'll figure out, okay, what students do we have in, what classes are they in, what major are they in, and then they'll line that up with whatever their administry of state security priorities are. | ||
| So your priority intelligence requirements or PIRs that we would have in the IC, in the U.S., they've got theirs as well. | ||
| And so suddenly someone who's in the science and technology department says, hey, you've got this guy and he's making his way towards here. | ||
| Have him go for those files. | ||
| So it's not like someone is a spy from the start. | ||
| It's more like they're already here. | ||
| Then we find out, hey, they've got access to something we want. | ||
| Now we apply the pressure. | ||
| Yeah, they're just property of the CCP, regardless, you know, whether they're a little confused on something. | ||
| Is this something he just fleetingly said, or is this something that he actually held a conference with and said, I'm going to do this? | ||
| He's repeated it multiple times. | ||
| He's been asked about it in the past and said that he doesn't want to get rid of the 300,000. | ||
| He's always used strong rhetoric against that, against expelling them. | ||
| I also think this is worth mentioning that if you zoom out for a second, geopolitically, what this really speaks to is a failure in diplomacy. | ||
| This is one of the like, not last, but it's going down the path of a failing diplomacy with China. | ||
| If we're thinking that we need to not have these students be here, obviously the Trump administration thinks differently. | ||
| I think that when it comes down to it, I just go back to, and to your point about the failure of diplomacy, the average person looks at it as a completely unbalanced relationship that we have with China. | ||
| So it's this huge inverse where it seems that they get all of the gain. | ||
| And what do we get? | ||
| Like cheap TVs and trinkets and baubles and things. | ||
| And it's just something that ultimately we can see that China is getting fat and happy off of this relationship. | ||
| And by the way, prior to the tariffs, which have been largely successful, and the Chinese have eaten that, by the way, that You could say, what are we really gaining in terms of wealth in this country? | ||
| And so, you know, Josh Simon had thrown something out earlier and said, you know, hey, why not if we're going to do this, let's tariff the students. | ||
| Let's tariff the students 200%. | ||
| I said, you know what? | ||
| Double it, 400%. | ||
| They're already paying full tuition compared to nobody else is paying full tuition. | ||
| Right, but that money's going, but that money goes directly to the college. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I mean, we end up subsidizing these colleges too. | ||
| So it's an additional subsidization for us. | ||
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| So it's a subsidization for the college. | ||
| So I guess the idea being, why not have something that actually benefits the country directly? | ||
| Well, it's keeping them afloat would be the argument. | ||
| Like a certain, I think I've read like 15% of these colleges wouldn't be able to thrive without them. | ||
| But I had one last tidbit. | ||
| I don't have, I don't think I wanted to. | ||
| I don't mind if a lot of I'm not going to get a lot of defense for a lot of the colleges in this country. | ||
| Well, my alma mater, the University of Buffalo, would probably fail if they didn't have all these foreign students. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| One last tidbit that I wanted to add here, though, is that I think this is a really easy thing for nationalists on both sides to fear monger on, and I'm guilty of that myself. | ||
| If I was a Chinese nationalist, I'd say, no, I don't want to send our best and brightest over to the United States to become useful idiots and Chinese spies for the United States. | ||
| Oh, we're going to send them there four years. | ||
| They're going to get brainwashed into all this bullshit, liberal ideology. | ||
| They're going to start believing trans and gay bullshit, and they're going to come bring that back here because that's what they're learning over there. | ||
| So I feel like it's easy to fear monger in that way. | ||
| Like, because in China, they're like, oh, this is, we went through the century of humiliation and now you're going to continue supporting those Western dogs who oppressed us for all these centuries. | ||
| And you're going to support them economically. | ||
| That's where you're going to go spend all your money and you're paying top dollar to go to these schools. | ||
| So I think both sides have an argument to fear monger around here. | ||
| Having more exchange is hyper. | ||
| I mean, again, if in a vacuum, I think that I get what you're saying, that an exchange is good. | ||
| I'd love to get to that point in the relationship at some point. | ||
| I just don't think we're there. | ||
| I just really don't think we're there. | ||
| I think we're at a point where it's a total, it's like, it's like we, we, you know, it's like the United States is, is, is like your buddy who's in a toxic relationship with this girl, and he's totally just simping all over the codependent relationship, totally simping out. | ||
| And we're like, dude, she treats you like crap. | ||
| She's always taking your stuff. | ||
| She doesn't let you do what you want. | ||
| Look what's happened to your life. | ||
| A few friends like that. | ||
| Exactly, right? | ||
| We all have those. | ||
| It begs the question. | ||
| He just won't listen. | ||
| What do you think the president's thinking here is then? | ||
| If not saying he doesn't want to cancel these visas, he wants to double it. | ||
| I think he's the president thinking here. | ||
| He wants a good relationship with Zhe. | ||
| Yeah, he's negotiating. | ||
| He's all about the deal, right? | ||
| Let's make it a little bit different. | ||
| I always kind of say this. | ||
| Whenever he's in deal making mode, I do think that he'll throw out things like this that, and people can say, like, oh, here's Psobic. | ||
| He's doing his paid thing. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Like, seriously, I think he does throw out things when he's in negotiating mode. | ||
| And obviously, we know he's working on various trade deals with China. | ||
| The tariffs have been a huge piece of this as well. | ||
| So I would kind of chalk it up to sort of the Trump negotiations. | ||
| I think it's important how he said this. | ||
| I didn't see the video on this. | ||
| I don't know if he just said it fleetingly, like, I could entertain that. | ||
| Or was he like, no, we're going to do this. | ||
| Like, this is something I want to do. | ||
| So it all depends on how he stated this. | ||
| I think if he was just kind of like, you know, that's interesting, I might think about doing that. | ||
| But I think public opinion is generally against it. | ||
| And I'm against it 100%. | ||
| We saw the AP last week. | ||
| They're like, we have 55 million visa holders, and then they see, oh, 600,000 more. | ||
| You're just like, I don't care if they're donating me a million dollars. | ||
| Well, that should be nice. | ||
| But it's like keeping the universities afloat. | ||
| It's like, we got 55 million to get out. | ||
| What's 600,000? | ||
| Maybe this is a backdoor way to drain China. | ||
| They're already in a population crash. | ||
| We're taking an extra half a million of their youngest. | ||
| Australia can have. | ||
| I just reject the idea that we're taking them. | ||
| Like bringing them here does not mean they become Americans. | ||
| We're going to indoctrinate them. | ||
| No, we're not. | ||
| It just doesn't happen. | ||
| They can't do that on their own. | ||
| Show me the example of that, though. | ||
| That's not what I'm saying. | ||
| There's a ton of Chinese dissidents in the United States. | ||
| You have a ton of these different groups that typically go back. | ||
| They typically go back and they work from China and they're so focused on money. | ||
| So there's like Tibetan refugees, there's Fallen Gong refugees that come here. | ||
| There's people from Hong Kong that come from here. | ||
| And I think these are not going to NYU. | ||
| They do go to these colleges and I've seen them protest on these colleges before. | ||
| I've seen three hundred dollars. | ||
| It might be a small number, but it's nowhere near the majority. | ||
| Well, yeah, they're also not allowed to protest at all in China. | ||
| So they're coming from a background and culture that, you know, struggles to express themselves or vote or participate politically. | ||
| I just, I think Trump has something up his sleeve here, and we should let the guy cook. | ||
| We should let Trump cook here, guys. | ||
| Let's not freak out. | ||
| So this is the argument, though, that was made about opening up to China from the 1980s. | ||
| And this is something I've always been critical of Margaret Thatcher and her government in the handover of Hong Kong because it kept being this refrain over and over that the more we the more exposure that we have to China, the West has to China, the more democratic they will become. | ||
| And they will have protest groups. | ||
| And you can go back 40 years and they were saying the exact same thing. | ||
| And what have we seen? | ||
| Hong Kong, probably 50 years of the special, you know, two system, one government, two systems. | ||
| And Xi Jinping just threw that out the window completely. | ||
| Then it's been a total crackdown. | ||
| China hasn't become more democratic. | ||
| If anything, we have become less, far, far less. | ||
| And I would argue that our exposure, and I would see this when I was over there, briefly was at the Shanghai American Chamber of Commerce, and then also worked for another firm doing business there and trying to help American businesses come into the Chinese market. | ||
| And what you would see, though, was that American business leaders and American politicians would come over and they'd see the CCP system. | ||
| And this gets what you're saying about the China model. | ||
| And they would say, oh, this is great. | ||
| So if I want a maglev, if I want a high-speed rail, like we had one in Shanghai, they have one that kind of goes from the airport almost to downtown. | ||
| And they just build it. | ||
| You say, well, what about the people who live in the way? | ||
| What about them? | ||
| You just get rid of them. | ||
| You tear down those neighborhoods. | ||
| You just blast them out and then they can go wherever. | ||
| And so to your point, right, in a system where there is no political real participation, if they're in a system where they don't have any rights to be able to defend their rights, that it becomes intoxicating for Western leaders to see that system and say, how can we get some of that as well? | ||
| Yeah, but this is going to give the illegal immigrants a lot of ammunition if he does this, man. | ||
| For them to protest and fight back and feel righteous and wanting to stay here. | ||
| We have to go and they can come. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| Saying it's going to give them a lot of that's what they're going to say. | ||
| They're going to say, what the hell is this? | ||
| It's going to look very hypocritical. | ||
| It's going to look bad on Trump. | ||
| We already have other legal immigrants that come on through different visas. | ||
| And hey, if we can radicalize Latin America on China, being a geopolitical adversary, I mean, that's a win-win. | ||
| It's a wedge issue, right? | ||
| Maybe that's what we're saying. | ||
| I do want to be cognizant of the clock. | ||
| And so I want to get into this, the Psycho Sue story. | ||
| So we talked about this in the third hour yesterday in the members' hour. | ||
| But Nino, I was thinking that you probably had some takes on this, given that you come from a fight background. | ||
| I mean, look, it's like they say you talked. | ||
| Now, pro wrestling is obviously very different from what you did. | ||
| Pro wrestling's fake, okay? | ||
| It's scripted. | ||
| Yeah, okay, it's scripted. | ||
| But I mean, like, when I was in the dress room getting ready to fight, nobody told me who was going to win. | ||
| We wanted to kill each other. | ||
| He was not expecting that beatdown. | ||
| It was premeditated. | ||
| There was a video of Jackson's son, Rampage Jackson's son, talking about, I'm going to, have you seen the video where he's talking, I'm going to go up there and hit this guy, man. | ||
| I'm going to tag this guy. | ||
| He's saying all these, all these things. | ||
| It was premeditated. | ||
| He was not going along with any kind of script. | ||
| He wasn't going to fake drop them and then fake slap them. | ||
| If you see the punches land on this guy's cranium, these are intentionally, he was there to kill that guy, dude. | ||
| Like, that was five cents. | ||
| We are now up to $115,000. | ||
| So $3,000 extra just since we mentioned it a couple of minutes ago. | ||
| I think that's a murder charge, bro. | ||
| Honestly, attempted murder. | ||
| I just, I'm sorry. | ||
| So walk us through. | ||
| Especially premeditated. | ||
| Walk us through if someone's in that situation. | ||
| You know, you've been boxing out. | ||
| There's no boxing gloves on in this. | ||
| So gloves are off, literally. | ||
| He's down. | ||
| He's bashing you in the head. | ||
| What happened in that situation physically? | ||
| Well, he went red, right? | ||
| He went totally red. | ||
| He lost his mind. | ||
| He was whatever. | ||
| There was a something happened before that where he smashed a can on his head. | ||
| He apologized. | ||
| They became friends again. | ||
| They were talking. | ||
| And it was a prop. | ||
| It was like a proposed act. | ||
| It was a prop, right? | ||
| It was like an act. | ||
| It was an act. | ||
| It was a planned act. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This guy took it so personal and it hurt his ego so bad, that fragile ego he has, that he went after him. | ||
| And what he did was uncalled for, man. | ||
| Plus, the guy wasn't expecting it. | ||
| You can go up. | ||
| I've seen that seen this happen. | ||
| You've probably seen it happen to where guys go up to other guys and it's called stealing their soul or snatching their soul, where you go up to a guy in a club and bam, whack him, knock him out. | ||
| He's out snoring and you just disappear into the crowd. | ||
| That happened all the time. | ||
| He kind of did that to this guy. | ||
| The guy was not expecting this. | ||
| He got picked up, slammed, and then when he's there pretending to be like he's out, then he starts getting punches delivered to his face. | ||
| That's uncalled for. | ||
| And it was premeditated. | ||
| And there's proof that it was premeditated by him talking about it on the phone to whoever he was talking to. | ||
| Someone was recording him say all this. | ||
| So to me, how is this? | ||
| This is this could be like an attempted murder charge. | ||
| That kind of damage, what do you say? | ||
| It's attempted murder. | ||
| How likely is it that he could have died? | ||
| Oh, it's so easy. | ||
| Just a hair, man. | ||
| Like, I mean, I'm surprised he didn't with those blows he took to the head. | ||
| Honestly, I've seen guys die in sparring, get hit wrong, and bat, they're out. | ||
| Ambulance comes are gone. | ||
| I've seen it happen in the gym. | ||
| And those are with 16-ounce gloves. | ||
| Sometimes 18-ounce. | ||
| I mean, they're heavyweights given, but I mean, I've seen that happen in when I knocked out Owen Beck. | ||
| He was out for like almost 30 minutes when I knocked him out with a left hook and he was bleeding out of his eyes and his ears. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| And I thought I took a knee. | ||
| The crowd got silent. | ||
| I was scared to death. | ||
| And I think that also affected my career, to be quite honest. | ||
| But that was intentional. | ||
| What he did was intentional. | ||
| He went in there and he dropped that guy on his head and it looked like he tried to kill him. | ||
| Now to me. | ||
| And he's using his training. | ||
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Yes. | |
| Yes. | ||
| And the guy was not expecting that. | ||
| So I got to call it what it is. | ||
| And I think everyone has seen it. | ||
| And it looks like he's trying to kill the man. | ||
| Just because it's with your fists, that's still doing a lot of damage. | ||
| Now, by the way, we're up to 116,500. | ||
| I just refreshed. | ||
| So donations are pouring in. | ||
| This is awesome. | ||
| I love this. | ||
| So is he in a coma? | ||
| Or is he? | ||
| No, I thought they said he was awake. | ||
| Is he awake? | ||
| Okay, my bad. | ||
| I thought they said, let me, I'm just scrolling down. | ||
| Sometimes they put updates on here. | ||
| I mean, we can find out what we can. | ||
| He is, by the way, he's a veteran of the United States Army. | ||
| And this is crazy. | ||
| So he was using wrestling as an outlet to deal with his PTSD. | ||
| Now, one thing that I want to say, no, I mentioned this yesterday on the third hour, was that there was an affiliation between this independent promotion and the WWE. | ||
| So this is a situation, I got to say, they could potentially be looking at a lawsuit, a huge lawsuit from Psycho Stew here if he wanted to pursue that route. | ||
| Because, you know, I'm sure you got to sign waivers. | ||
| I'm going to show. | ||
| So like when you were boxing, did you ever have to sign waiver with the promoter before they put it on and say, hey, half the contracts I signed? | ||
| I didn't even know what was it? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No wonder I got screwed. | ||
| But I mean, I mean, no, I mean, it was, there were times that weigh-ins, honestly, that I, that I, I remember the tension was so bad. | ||
| All of a sudden, we just started throwing punches. | ||
| Like, you just, you can't predict it. | ||
| It just happens, you know. | ||
| But, but I never looked at a guy and I was like, I'm premeditating, like, I'm going to just go up and just, you know, it's just sometimes you're staring at each other and then they can't part you. | ||
| And the next thing you know, you're like, well, we got to take this to the next level because I'm not backing down. | ||
| You're not backing down. | ||
| It's on. | ||
| And then we just start fighting. | ||
| That happens. | ||
| It's just the nature of the beast. | ||
| It's the nature of the sport. | ||
| It's just what it is. | ||
| But what I saw in that video is premeditated. | ||
| He did it without the guy knowing. | ||
| The guy didn't know that he was going to come get slammed. | ||
| Maybe he knew he was. | ||
| So what you're saying is, what you're saying, it's not like one of those weigh-in situations where tension raises up because he was planning to do that before he got right. | ||
| It was premeditated. | ||
| The guy was unsuspecting. | ||
| He had his back turned to him. | ||
| He probably knew he was going to go. | ||
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Okay. | |
| He's going to come into the ring, pick me up, slam me, and then, you know, whatever. | ||
| He trusted in him. | ||
| He actually, whatever the set of moves was. | ||
| So he had a trust factor in that kid. | ||
| Like, okay, I know he's probably going to come pick me up, slam me, and then, you know, whatever move we decide to do. | ||
| He does a body slammer for him. | ||
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Right. | |
| And then we're going to script whatever happens after that. | ||
| But he didn't. | ||
| Bam, bam, bam, bam. | ||
| And started going to town on the guy. | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| I mean, that's coward. | ||
| To me, that means coward. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know how you all look at it, but to me, that's that's a coward move. | ||
| There was a lot of uh, if I understand correctly, there was a lot of people in his chat after the initial bit, I think. | ||
| Yeah, this is what we were talking about last night, right? | ||
| They were calling him names, saying that he was, you know, calling him all kinds of names and basically rampage. | ||
| No, no, Raja's because he's a big kick streamer. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And they were saying last night that's what Andrew Wilson was here last night. | ||
| And what he was saying was that I feel like Tim all of a sudden here, because I'm explaining you drama. | ||
| That don't worry, Tim, I got you, buddy. | ||
| That his chat was egging him on to do it because they're saying, how are you going to let him punk you like that? | ||
| How you going to let him get you like that? | ||
| You got got. | ||
| You know, he smashed that beer into your head. | ||
| You're just going to let him do that. | ||
| How old is he? | ||
| And he's 20s. | ||
| He's super young. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| He's 20, something like that. | ||
| You're in your 20s, Pete. | ||
| Yeah, he's even younger than me. | ||
| So he's like 20, 21, maybe 22. | ||
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Is he? | |
| I don't know. | ||
| I'm just going to say 25. | ||
| 25, yeah. | ||
| You know, to me, that's still a kid. | ||
| Ah, Tate's like, he's super young. | ||
| He's older than me. | ||
| I also feel like Twitch streamers, kick streamers, this is just the concentration of the world's lowest impulse control. | ||
| Like every single person on there is just like a ticking time bomb. | ||
| So it's actually kind of a miracle. | ||
| We don't see stuff. | ||
| Someone in the chat here was saying I was one of the people on his chat. | ||
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No. | |
| I don't think he was charged with it. | ||
| When you had more respect for Miffy, not yet. | ||
| But when you had more respect for me, I believe they said, I believe they said under investigation. | ||
| Where did this Phil? | ||
| Where did this happen again? | ||
| I'm not sure where it happened. | ||
| I thought it was Knox Pro. | ||
| Was it Knoxville? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Well, I don't think it's Knoxville, but it was the crazy if it was Knox County with Glenn Jacobs. | |
| But I would have had more respect for the kid if he would have challenged him, grabbed the mic, and said, let's go right now, me and you. | ||
| And then Mono Imano, then go. | ||
| Then okay, but maybe, maybe. | ||
| That's kind of the whole point of it, right? | ||
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But like he did it so much then. | |
| It says LAPD. | ||
| So I'm no tough guy. | ||
| What was that one that said? | ||
| Yeah, it was in LA. | ||
| I'm no tough guy, obviously, but there's no honor here in cheap shotting someone. | ||
| I think if you're a man about it, or I don't know, there's some sort of fighter's honor of like, let's actually fight in a code. | ||
| You're not trying to hit people when they're unconscious. | ||
| I don't think. | ||
| So, I mean, all of his hits were dirty as far as I'm concerned. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| And I don't really know what else to say. | ||
| I hope he gets charged. | ||
| I saw Rampage's response, and considering Raj is his kid, he actually had a really good response. | ||
| Like, he's like, I'm not going to condemn my kid, but he was dead. | ||
| But like, you know, I would have. | ||
| I love him. | ||
| And I, well, he was, he was like, he was definitely wrong in doing it. | ||
| So he was clear about that. | ||
| But it was, you know, like, I mean, you know, you're a father. | ||
| You don't want to sit there and go. | ||
| Yeah, you're not going to get on the internet. | ||
| You're not going to be in the internet, Jack. | ||
| We're not going to get on the internet and beat up on you. | ||
| It depends on what you mean by condemn, right? | ||
| If that were my son, it would have walked him down to the police station and said, you need to face for what you did. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| That's as a father, right? | ||
| is you have to own up to your mistakes. | ||
| So if you did something, right, number one, obviously you owe an apology, but number two, you still owe, you have to pay a debt. | ||
| So a debt must be paid here, whether that's society, whether that's to the man directly. | ||
| I feel like Rampage needs to give him a good old ass weapon. | ||
| Adrian Penny wouldn't treat me with the switch. | ||
| I would take my kid to the woodshed, you know, maybe, maybe, maybe, you know, metaphysically over something like, not like that, but no way. | ||
| No, that's something where, and by the way, I wouldn't be tweeting about it, you know, like if something like this had happened, I mean, God forbid, but you, I mean, I got to say, you know, it just, it feels to me like this is something that it does feel like bad parenting. | ||
| It does feel like bad parenting. | ||
| To underscore, I think, a part of this that we didn't address, well, the biggest issue I think at hand here was his ego control. | ||
| He couldn't control his ego. | ||
| He feel like someone had won up on him, someone had embarrassed him, and he needed to get revenge. | ||
| He wasn't able to swallow his pride. | ||
| And I think that could be a lesson for other people to check your ego. | ||
| And, you know, having your ego all wound up could get you in some deep shit. | ||
| You'd think that he understood that he's in the wrestling world. | ||
| This is a job. | ||
| That's what I mean. | ||
| Like the bit was a job. | ||
| Because after this, he was like, I'm not going to get God anymore. | ||
| Nobody's going to get me anymore. | ||
| Instigated that. | ||
| The kids on social media egging him on. | ||
| So he was probably looking at all these comments going, oh, man, I got to do something. | ||
| I can't go down. | ||
| He's not going to be here. | ||
| It's an ego problem to know what was going on. | ||
| Like, you're supposed to go into that scenario, understanding how it goes. | ||
| This is a, it was a work, and that's a wrestling term I'm using. | ||
| It was a work. | ||
| He was supposed to take the hit. | ||
| Then he was going to get him back in the ring. | ||
| He would knock the guy down. | ||
| And then those hits aren't supposed to be actually real. | ||
| But he went to the middle of the morning. | ||
| Which, by the way, if he's the one, because when you look at it, Psycho Stew in the angle, right, in the narrative, he's the one that kind of cold cocks him with the beer outside. | ||
| So it's almost like he was the one taking the cheap shot. | ||
| So I don't know exactly. | ||
| But that was part of the work. | ||
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Right. | |
| That's why that was part of the scripting. | ||
| But what I'm saying is, if he was the one doing that, then it would have been setting up Raja to kind of be the babyface, right? | ||
| To setting him up as a good guy in that where he's the heel. | ||
| So he's the villain. | ||
| And then Raja is going to defeat the villain in the ring. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| What we're trying to accomplish. | ||
| But he took it massive personally and went out there for a vendetta and just tried to kill the man. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I do believe he never be punished by the law for this. | ||
| I really do. | ||
| I don't see how you walk from this. | ||
| By the way, I think stuff like this happens every day, every week, on a smaller scale in dumb bar fights and people fighting outside of convenience stores and people shooting each other because one person passes him by, steps on his shoes, calls him a name. | ||
| People's sensitive egos and fragile egos leads to unfortunately a lot of senseless violence in our country. | ||
| And you should try your best to avoid it. | ||
| Like, this is dumb, sad, unfortunate stuff that's happening in our country. | ||
| One guy has brain damage and this other guy's likely going to jail. | ||
| Jason Whitlock talks about this a lot. | ||
| He calls it, I think he calls it diss culture where, oh, you dissed me, so I've got to respond. | ||
| Put you back one up. | ||
| I was a diss. | ||
| You did that on purpose. | ||
| You stepped on my shoes. | ||
| Now I got a, now I've got a, you know, I've got to get a fighter out. | ||
| You took my beanie, right? | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| You know, Tim should have messed him up. | ||
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Real. | |
| Anything. | ||
| But that was an agreement. | ||
| Think even me being a fighter that I would be reactionary like that. | ||
| I'm not. | ||
| Like now that I've, and especially now that I've gotten older and I'm done with boxing, I have no, like, if I can walk away from a fight or any kind of altercation, I'm walking. | ||
| When you get older, you see, I've just seen too much stuff happen with my friends and people I know. | ||
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Well, to yourself, oh, yeah, yeah, I don't know. | |
| Start off, you almost died at the bar fight or something. | ||
| By the way, that's a lesson. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know what happened. | ||
| That was all just on the way to the studio. | ||
| Yeah, that was all. | ||
| It was all just earlier. | ||
| I was out here. | ||
| You would have a tail. | ||
| Oh, dude. | ||
| Yeah, these West Virginia Knights, man, they get a little wild whacking them up. | ||
| These cracker barrels are getting wild. | ||
| By the way, Tate, can I see your knife? | ||
| Yeah, don't worry. | ||
| It's British approved. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
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All right. | |
| Well, and hey, segue here because we're talking about British approved knives. | ||
| This, this, the one of the other stories that I've just seen everywhere, absolutely everywhere. | ||
| That was good. | ||
| I want to. | ||
| It actually was a good segue. | ||
| I'm getting better at this. | ||
| We don't have a ton of details in terms of names, in terms of everything that's going on, but this was something that was tearing up the interwebs yesterday. | ||
| And Eevee magazine, the great ladies over at Eevee Magazine, have put this together. | ||
| 14-year-old girl from Scotland charged after carrying weapons. | ||
| Now, that's an interesting headline because if you look at the video, you perhaps might come away with another idea about who it is, who should be charged, who is the aggressor, and who is the one doing something. | ||
| Do we have, sir, do we have the actual video? | ||
| Can we just play this? | ||
| If I hit that, will it just play? | ||
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Okay. | |
| All right. | ||
| I'm literally just driving now because this is. | ||
| All right, I'll take it back. | ||
| So you got this is in Scotland, two girls. | ||
| I think one is, we know one is 14. | ||
| I think one's the young. | ||
| Is the older one 14? | ||
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Older one. | |
| Yeah, the older one. | ||
| She's the one holding her back. | ||
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Why are you fucking with us? | |
| These are fucking cashers! | ||
| So, show the knife! | ||
| Show the knife! | ||
| Get this fuck away from our house! | ||
| Show the knife! | ||
| Don't touch her! | ||
| That's it! | ||
| That's it. | ||
| Show the knife. | ||
| She has an axe and a knife. | ||
| That's the I'm not getting raped face. | ||
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Touch your gun to me. | |
| Don't talk anyway, hurry me. | ||
| Who is she yelling at? | ||
| So she's yelling at, and I, I, is this it? | ||
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No, no, no. | |
| No, there's another angle of it where it's basically two migrants that are coming at her, and she's trying to, again, we're told that she is trying to get away from them and pushes back on this. | ||
| It brings up a lot of stories about the grooming gangs that have gone up before Kim Not seeing those pictures. | ||
| Search, see if you can find that other angle of it. | ||
| But going back to the article, she has now been charged. | ||
| So the police get called. | ||
| She has now been charged for brandishing weapons, rather a bladed weapon, by the way. | ||
| This happened in Dundee, and Tate, you know a little bit about that. | ||
| So she's been charged for brandishing weapons to try to defend herselves against people who were harassed. | ||
| Oh, there it is. | ||
| There it is. | ||
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Yeah, there's other guys here. | |
| I don't know how much assume I can get, but they've already assaulted her, right? | ||
| They've already known. | ||
| But I think she's trying to prevent them. | ||
| Whatever they were doing, she's clearly saying, get away from me. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I mean, Well, Scotland's a weird experiment because England's obviously had this Boris wave of migrants, but they have, what, 50 million people? | ||
| Scotland has six. | ||
| So it's like you flood the, you flood, no, it's 5.5 million. | ||
| So it's like, it doesn't take that many migrants to completely change the look of a city, in which case Dundee, which is already a pretty rough place, you introduce just a couple hundred migrants. | ||
| It's really going to destroy the social trust of the city. | ||
| And that's what you're saying here. | ||
| So you've been there, though. | ||
| Yeah, I've been to Dundee. | ||
| How long ago? | ||
| Last time I was there, it would have been last spring. | ||
| So the spring of the previous year. | ||
| Oh, it's not long ago at all. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So very recently. | ||
| And you were saying you saw some migrants, but not as much as in other places. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, compared to like Glasgow and Edinburgh, you don't see as much. | ||
| Like Dundee is still a very Scottish place, but it's a more working class town. | ||
| They already have drug, drug issues, unfortunately. | ||
| And like I said, the migrants coming to Scotland, that's even after the Boris wave. | ||
| It doesn't take very many to destabilize places like Dundee. | ||
| These are not very large cities at all. | ||
| The first time I ever went to Scotland was, I think, in 2004, 2005. | ||
| And then the last time that I was there was in 2019. | ||
| And it's noticeably different. | ||
| If you go to like Govan in Glasgow, like 20 years ago, it was 100% Scottish. | ||
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Yep. | |
| It was like an Irish Catholic neighborhood. | ||
| And you go there now and it literally feels like the Middle East. | ||
| And it's like, you know, you see these things at London. | ||
| It's like even in London, it still feels to a degree reminiscent of England. | ||
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Like Govind, you have like people feeling animals. | |
| A lot of London feels like that. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, look. | ||
| It's like, it's unbelievable in Glasgow. | ||
| Yeah, I haven't been to Scotland. | ||
| I've been to Dublin, though, on the Ireland side. | ||
| And it's the same thing in Dublin. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So the people that are there have absolutely been abused by their government because they didn't ask for this. | ||
| They were never, there was no vote. | ||
| Yeah, they vote against it all the time. | ||
| And the government does nothing at all about the violence that the migrants are bringing in. | ||
| And you've got, you know, both the UK or both England and Scotland are subject to the same thing. | ||
| I think it's the same kind of thing is going on in Ireland. | ||
| I'm not sure how bad. | ||
| But I mean, these people have to deal with this. | ||
| They have to deal with, you know, basically changing the, you know, the whole, the face of the country. | ||
| If they say, oh, we don't like this, or if they post about it on Facebook, they go to jail. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, you're seeing like in Northern Ireland, the Protestants and Catholics coming together. | ||
| I mean, do you know how existential a threat has to be to bury that hatchet? | ||
| Well, in this case, there's a hatchet involved as well. | ||
| But I mean, yeah, it's totally totally insane. | ||
| They're changing the entire composition of a country before our very eyes, and they're doing it very rapidly. | ||
| Completely engineered, right? | ||
| They didn't do that here. | ||
| They were trying to do that here as well. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| I mean, we got to pull up some of the memes that people are making to stand in solid air. | ||
| We don't know her name. | ||
| There's no GoFundMe or anything in terms of this, but people are just pointing it out that it's, you know, I'm surprised no one's done like the Braveheart meme yet. | ||
| The internet is. | ||
| Oh, yeah, they've done that. | ||
| Have you seen the radio? | ||
| I haven't seen it. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I've seen her with the, even though, like, they keep the pants on, but the kilt, the same from the show. | ||
| Yeah, here's, here's, here's one. | ||
| This is great from SKS Cartoon. | ||
| Make sure you go follow him. | ||
| Why aren't there any men helping us? | ||
| Britain has no men. | ||
| We're on our own. | ||
| That's really poignant. | ||
| Like, why are there no men that will stand up and say this is unacceptable? | ||
| There is, but they're all in jail. | ||
| Like at Southport. | ||
| I mean, as soon as anybody tried to do something about it, they throw you in jail and don't explain it. | ||
| You know what's crazy? | ||
| Isn't it, I think it's today or yesterday was the five-year anniversary of Kyle Rittenhouse? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I saw that was going around a lot. | ||
| And I remember when that happened live, I was watching it live. | ||
| I remember, obviously, I've come to Okio. | ||
| I've covered the case, et cetera. | ||
| And this was the exact same argument that I kept making. | ||
| They were like, why is a 17-year-old out there doing this? | ||
| Like, why is he the only one out there? | ||
| Where are the adults? | ||
| Like, where are the adults? | ||
| Where are the people who put him in a situation where he's thinking somebody's gotta be- He's 17, right? | ||
| 16, 17. | ||
| He's 17. | ||
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Wow. | |
| He's 17. | ||
| So not much older than this girl. | ||
| Became a man overnight just like that. | ||
| I mean, he took a matter of time. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I mean, what happened to that kid now? | ||
| It's like we all should have been there. | ||
| He does work in the 2A community. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| And I mean, also in Texas, by the way. | ||
| The UK is kind of an interesting case, too. | ||
| Like, they actually have more of a propensity to push back on these sorts of things. | ||
| I think presumably because it's denser areas, it's easier to organize quickly versus the United States. | ||
| But the UK cracks down much harder. | ||
| I mean, you tweet the wrong thing and you're gone. | ||
| They did the studio Ghibli me. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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But I mean, there's the braveheart, yeah. | |
| The people in Scotland, the people in England, like they, they have allowed this to happen, unfortunately. | ||
| You know, you can't, and they've allowed their government to imprison people. | ||
| Look, there are enough people that can stand up and go stand outside of the magistrate's office and say, let those guys out of jail. | ||
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Right? | |
| Like, if someone goes, because there it is. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's not necessarily braveheart. | ||
| It's sort of a crusader. | ||
| So that's a crusader. | ||
| Crusader chic. | ||
| But even still, I mean, it's sentiments there. | ||
| Yeah, Joan of Arc is the one that comes to the smile. | ||
| It just seems like a Joan of Arc. | ||
| Just think how close we were to being like that as a society if Kamala would have won, dude. | ||
| I mean, seriously. | ||
| Think of the chaos, how crazy things would have been. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, well, the UK is interesting because it does feel like a testing ground for what they want to implement. | ||
| Oh, yeah, it is to a large degree. | ||
| It'll be worse here because they're not going to be able to get rid of them. | ||
| It's careful. | ||
| Just like scrolling through Twitter on this, you know, you never know what's going to pop up. | ||
| Seriously, the fact that the United States has so many guns, you're not getting rid of them. | ||
| So things like this, it wouldn't just be, you know, some girl fighting with knives. | ||
| And it also means that the aggressive people that are looking to violate other people's rights, they're going to have guns as well. | ||
| So the idea of a civil war or something that turns into serious problems, like it would be way worse in the United States than in the UK. | ||
| Well, and also the sources of migration, this is what separates Europe from the U.S. is most of our migration over the last few decades has been from Latin America, which culturally, obviously, it's still different, but it's more similar to the U.S. versus Europe. | ||
| It's coming from the Middle East and North Africa. | ||
| Vastly different civilization. | ||
| Well, now the U.S. is starting to get migrants from the Middle East, North Africa, and also South Asia who are dramatically different from us. | ||
| And so the U.K. is a bit of a trailer for us. | ||
| Dude, they're setting up whole communities in Texas, like Plano. | ||
| Oh, it's called Sharia Muslims. | ||
| I mean, it's crazy. | ||
| Like massive communities being funded by dear, all of them connected to dearborn, different cities in America, all interconnected. | ||
| I mean, it was about to kick off here, I think. | ||
| And then I think Trump, man, came in and what he's doing right now with the troops and everything he's doing is exactly what I voted in for. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, exactly. | ||
| Texas, you get the big monkey statue. | ||
| I mean, it's like, you know, it's great. | ||
| It's like, oh, this won't stand in Texas, but it's like, it's happening everywhere. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So it's like you could say, oh, well, let Zoron, you know, sink New York City. | ||
| It's like, there's monkey statues in Texas. | ||
| Like, this is a nationwide problem. | ||
| But what Trump's doing right now with the cleanup is the cure has to be greater than the disease. | ||
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It does. | |
| And it's what he's doing. | ||
| The cure right now is at. | ||
| And, you know, people can say what they want, but he's doing exactly what we voted him in for. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So it's like, I mean, the UK, the UK is in serious, serious trouble. | ||
| I mean, like I said earlier, they're able to organize a bit quicker just because of how their society and communities are structured. | ||
| But, I mean, the fact you can't even tweet like very, very innocent stuff going to jail. | ||
| I mean, I agree with you. | ||
| Like, the men do need to be stepping up. | ||
| But like I said earlier, a lot of the men that have stepped up are in jail because like you saw with Southport. | ||
| Now you're seeing it where they're because you can't even whisper something. | ||
| You go to jail. | ||
| You can't even hang a St. George's cross-up on a lamp post. | ||
| That's how they investigate by the people. | ||
| Always like all the guys that are doing that are always wearing a mask to conceal their identity and stuff. | ||
| With all the problems we have in the U.S., it's like that is not something you have to do. | ||
| So, here's the thing, though. | ||
| If you do defend the girl, here's what happens: you become the next Daniel Penny, or I think there was just a story of some guy in Germany who defended some chick that was on a bus or something. | ||
| It was American. | ||
| He turned up into a piece of sliced cake. | ||
| It was an American face was all cut up. | ||
| You become the next Daniel Penny, but you don't have the same outcome as Daniel Penny because the jury puts you in jail for the rest of your life. | ||
| That's the best case. | ||
| Worst case is you just get stabbed or killed, and nobody praises you, more or less, or you're demonized if anything goes wrong. | ||
| There's a lot that goes on, and specifically in Scotland, I know it well, that happens. | ||
| Incidents like this happening in Glasgow and Edinburgh and Dundee and Aloha. | ||
| And it's kind of off the books a little bit. | ||
| Like this stuff kind of gets resolved away from the peering eyes of cameras and that sort of thing. | ||
| This just happens to be an incident where it's been captured. | ||
| It's time. | ||
| There is some pushback off camera. | ||
| It's time for CIA to start running guns to England, to the underground in England. | ||
| CIA's done it. | ||
| CIA has done it all over the world. | ||
| They can do it in the UK. | ||
| Start, you know, there's anybody in Language listening watching. | ||
| Regime change I can get behind. | ||
| Well, I mean, look, I'm telling you, man, you go and you take back the UK, right? | ||
| We should go and mass in France, go over the channel, take back the UK, and then we're heading to Jerusalem. | ||
| Yeah, like, you know, I'm of English stock. | ||
| The UK is kind of like my Israel in a lot of ways. | ||
| It's kind of the Holy Land. | ||
| You know, you go there, you get a whole English breakfast. | ||
| It feels connected with us. | ||
| It's Hadrian's Wall. | ||
| Yeah, Hadrian's Wall. | ||
| So it's a beautiful thing. | ||
| And I really supposed to keep out the well, it was supposed to be the border with Scotland. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's not doing its job. | ||
| You know, put a few extra feet on it. | ||
| But this reminds me a little bit of the funniest thing that Tim's ever said. | ||
| It was the after-show, and then he had a caller from Ireland saying that he wants to immigrate to the United States. | ||
| And he was like, no, stay in Ireland. | ||
| And if there were enough immigrants that went to Ireland, they'd take over and they'd take back Northern Ireland. | ||
| Unlike you native Irish people who would never have the boss to do that. | ||
| It was the most audacious thing. | ||
| It was like, yo, make Ireland great again. | ||
| Yeah, it was a very damn moment. | ||
| I was like, yeah, that's my boss. | ||
| I miss that guy, huh? | ||
| No, there's a lot going on. | ||
| We covered a protest that was going on in Kerry in Ireland not too long ago. | ||
| And they had tens of thousands of people route. | ||
| It was on remigration. | ||
| It was about take back Ireland. | ||
| Connor McGregor, of course, has been out, you know, very much outspoken on this, you know, kind of flirting with the idea of even running for president, talking about this kind of thing that we need to take back Ireland for the Irish. | ||
| And it's really amazing, right? | ||
| When you look at places like Ireland, like Scotland, that have fought for their independence for so long and have fought tooth and nail, right? | ||
| So Ireland, you know, an example, has fought the British for hundreds of years. | ||
| And, you know, if you look at the totality of it, in order to get back their Ireland, to get their island back. | ||
| And then they'll sit there and say, oh, but we also have, you know, have to let in, you know, so many people. | ||
| Oh, well, the Irish went everywhere. | ||
| So sure, Jesus, churches, we should be allowing them to come here. | ||
| And you're like, wait, what? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's ridiculous. | ||
| Isn't that a part of Catholicism? | ||
| And like, there are a lot of different Catholic charities, and as I understand in our country, who does want to advance a lot more immigration of Catholics? | ||
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But it's based on faith. | |
| There are readings of it, but I would argue that those are false interpretations. | ||
| But yes, certainly a lot of false interpretations, but very common false interpretations. | ||
| Certainly, Catholic charities. | ||
| Yeah, there's Catholic charities. | ||
| There's Lutherans. | ||
| There's other religions have this as well. | ||
| So it's one that's a huge, huge problem where they come in. | ||
| I don't know how big they are specifically in Ireland. | ||
| It wouldn't surprise me, though, if it was also going on. | ||
| Pope Leo's for immigration, right? | ||
| I mean, that's what's what he thinks. | ||
| Yeah, Pope Leo has said that he's for immigration. | ||
| He's for, you know, for open borders. | ||
| And he's, he's spoken out. | ||
| And it's like, for all of the good that I think that he has said about other things that, you know, one of the things that, and, you know, CNN was, you know, because we covered the conclave over there in Rome, and they were, they were coming to me for saying, look, you know, I don't think this is the conservative candidate that conservatives wanted. | ||
| And that's, and I get all my, all my tradcath bros be like, what do you mean? | ||
| You know, he's, you know, he's got the vestments and he's like open to the Latin Mass and this, and he's good on same-sex marriage and he's good on abortion. | ||
| I think he was perfect. | ||
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All this. | |
| And I say, yeah, but it's an issue. | ||
| The borders issue. | ||
| He hasn't really been coming out against Trump, to be fair. | ||
| He hasn't really been open statements. | ||
| The ones open borders, immigration. | ||
| What do you think that says to the moment? | ||
| He's been undercutting for sure, but he hasn't been in the way Francis was. | ||
| I mean, he hasn't been this direct. | ||
| But at the same time, open borders and mass migration is the seminal issue of our time. | ||
| And there's no question specifically in the West. | ||
| And if you're going to sit there and act like it's not an issue, it's part of the globalist agenda, right? | ||
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100%. | |
| It's destabilization of our countries. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so he is kind of like an opposing vector to Trump, which is kind of like they pick this guy from Chicago. | ||
| They bring him in. | ||
| He wants open borders. | ||
| I'm surprised he hasn't been as voiced as, I mean, I haven't really heard much from him. | ||
| Like, I thought he was going to be much more of a thorn in Trump's side than he is. | ||
| Well, there was a reading on that, but one of the other big issues, too, is that the Vatican's kind of broke right now. | ||
| And church collections have been down, revenues. | ||
| The Vatican's broke? | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
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Holy wow. | |
| Wow. | ||
| I never thought I'd ever hear that. | ||
| Go check out some of the Vatican Bank scandals that have gone on lately. | ||
| The huge London real estate scandals they've been involved in. | ||
| Just, you know, the money's down. | ||
| Money's been down worldwide for the Catholics. | ||
| And, you know, they can point to numbers that have been church growth in Africa and South America, but that hasn't led to the type of money that you'd need to come in. | ||
| And in places like where I'm from, the Philadelphia area, I mean, we just, you see churches closing every day. | ||
| Yeah, less and less people are going and more people are in Zoom and more people are attending church. | ||
| And so one of the reasons, one of the other reasons that they wanted to choose an American Pope is because given the combativeness that Pope Francis had had and a lot of the confusion, I think that a lot of his policies were going towards some of those really big dollars. | ||
| America's the world's largest economy. | ||
| Are you Catholic? | ||
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I am, yeah. | |
| So I was race cow. | ||
| I was an altar boy. | ||
| Oh, there you go. | ||
| Yeah, so was I. | ||
| And so they want to get more access to that American big dollar market. | ||
| And they think you get an American, that's someone who can walk right at Villanova University, which is in the Philly area. | ||
| So I almost went to Villanova, you know, where he went as undergrad. | ||
| So, I mean, it's a huge, huge Catholic church. | ||
| Do you attend church? | ||
| Do you go to church or every week? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Really? | ||
| See, I wish better man than I. | ||
| I mean, I try to read the Bible as much as I can, but yeah, I mean, I've kind of fallen away from the Catholic Church at least. | ||
| Check out Latin Mass. | ||
| Check out Latin Mass. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| It's so cool. | ||
| It's like the old school. | ||
| It's hardcore, right? | ||
| You know, no English. | ||
| Well, the homily, like the sermon English. | ||
| But, you know, it's way more traditional and I think a lot more solemn than the modern Vatican II. | ||
| Okay, so you are for this Pope or against this Pope? | ||
| I see a lot of good in terms of some of those traditional items, but I just think he's got to get his head right on immigration. | ||
| I think it's the biggest issue. | ||
| I mean, I think it's worth mentioning, too, that I know a Jewish person talking a lot about Catholicism right now, but the American brand of Catholicism is a little bit different than the global brand of Catholicism. | ||
| American Catholicism is a lot more right-wing than global Catholicism. | ||
| It's worth mentioning. | ||
| There's different strains even in America, though. | ||
| No, but worldwide, generally, as I understand, our version, our American version of Catholicism is a little bit more right-leaning. | ||
| I think it's also worth mentioning 40% of Catholics are from Latin America. | ||
| So I feel like it would make sense for the Pope to be very open towards immigration and towards people in Latin America. | ||
| In the East West. | ||
| And he spent a ton of his career as a priest down in Peru. | ||
| It makes sense because that's where global Catholicism. | ||
| I'm reading right now, there's 500, some odd million. | ||
| That's huge growth in South America, Latin America, and in Africa, but at the same time, and Asia as well. | ||
| But at the same time, they just don't have the economic pull that Americans do. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm saying it stands to reason why there would be some religious affinity for Latin Americans who are Catholic and that Catholic organizations in our country would want to try to reach out to these people and help them because they believe in Jesus and they believe the same things they do and on a religious affiliation basis. | ||
| So what's great, though, is that, you know, and you do have these different strains of political thought arising from Catholicism and that, you know, for like the Trad Caths, you know, we would kind of point more towards Cardinal Sarah, who is African and a cardinal of the church. | ||
| But he would say, you know, people should go back to their home countries because this dilution is causing confusion. | ||
| It's causing destabilization. | ||
| It's causing all the issues. | ||
| But if you were a globalist, wouldn't he be the perfect pick, Pope Leo? | ||
| Wouldn't he be the perfect plant to go against Trump? | ||
| I mean, give the immigrants the righteous indignation to fight against Trump, to feel righteous about what they're doing. | ||
| Pick a guy that's from Chicago, pick a pope that's open borders. | ||
| Do you get what I'm saying here? | ||
| To me, that's just like the perfect plant. | ||
| And, you know, that's how I see it. | ||
| You know, I mean, conspiracy theorist, but that's what I see. | ||
| Really, that's what I mean. | ||
| It's good for the Catholic brands, per se. | ||
| Well, it's like kind of what you're saying. | ||
| Like, you get this thing online where you'll see specifically like really trad cath types like chestbeat and they'll post a map showing like how widespread Catholicism has become in the United States, but then it overlays with like migration from Latin America over the last 30 years. | ||
| So it's like, because if you look at broadly, if you look at the demographics of the United States, the religious demographics, there's been a huge outpouring of Catholics into like non-denominational churches. | ||
| In my opinion, it doesn't matter if there's an influx or an uptick in how many Catholics they are, if too many of them are liberation theology Catholics. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And that's what you get from South America. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| That's just leftism. | ||
| Is that true? | ||
| I'm not familiar with liberation theology. | ||
| It's leftist. | ||
| That's the brand of leftist. | ||
| It's the infiltration of the Catholic Church using the word of God to forward leftist agendas. | ||
| It's because Marxism, when Marxism goes to different areas, what it does is it adopts to whatever the climate of that area is, right? | ||
| The political climate, the cultural climate. | ||
| And so because Latin America and South America were already Catholic, they said, okay, well, we're going to combine through like almost like a syncretalism, this idea of, okay, we're going to put it's, it's, what's Catholic and we're supporting the rights of the people to migrate, but it's also Marxist, right? | ||
| And which, which is weird because it seems contradictory because typically when the Marxists do take Very first thing they do in places like, oh, I don't know, Catholic France or Catholic Spain are start killing the priests and kill it and raping the nuns on the altar and smashing churches. | ||
| And you see that they do this in Mexico. | ||
| They do it again and again and again. | ||
| But to your point, it's this other strain of Marxism that's infiltrating through the church. | ||
| When people say that like Marxism will take over whatever you love and wear it like a skin suit, that's not just a figure of speech. | ||
| That is how Marxism operates. | ||
| Well, they did it to the, but they've also done it to the mainline churches in the U.S. | ||
| I mean, you look at historically, who are the founding fathers? | ||
| They're like Episcopalians, they're Presbyterians. | ||
| And you look at those denominations now, and it's like, that's where you get the pride flags, the lesbian preachers, and everything. | ||
| Like it's a weird nightmare. | ||
| We had the, I was at the national prayer service that right after Trump got inaugurated with J.D. Vance. | ||
| And we had the female bishop in the national cathedral. | ||
| And I was like, well, you know, okay, first time seeing a lady priest. | ||
| Let's see how this goes. | ||
| And then, and, and what does she do? | ||
| Wasn't she talking trash to Trump right there? | ||
| Yeah, she starts. | ||
| She gives a homily or sermon. | ||
| She gives a sermon saying that people, that, that no one is illegal and people shouldn't be deported. | ||
| And you can see the president kind of sitting there like, what's going on? | ||
| And we're, we're just, we're just a couple rows back. | ||
| And it got really uncomfortable. | ||
| Uncomfortable for everybody. | ||
| What is he going to do something? | ||
| So, you know, to credit to him, you know, being a gentleman, he didn't say anything or do anything at the time. | ||
| But I think even before he made it back to the White House, he's up on Truth Social Technology. | ||
| Yeah, he went right at it. | ||
| But that's what the Marxists are doing, right? | ||
| They're taking over the schools, indoctrination camps, the churches. | ||
| It's all captured operations. | ||
| All captured operations. | ||
| I mean, every institution and organization now has been captured, and we're trying to untangle that web right now with Trump and break free of this. | ||
| Well, while we're talking about that, we had a huge debate last night about freedom of speech and whether burning a flag constitutes freedom of speech. | ||
| This has gone viral. | ||
| I've gotten so many messages about it. | ||
| Great discussion. | ||
| And so here, and I'd love to, by the way, for all of those people who were so supportive of the rights to burn the American flag. | ||
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| All right. | ||
| That's your, that's your statement. | ||
| That's freedom of speech. | ||
| Are you also going to support the freedom of speech of Shiloh Hendrix? | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Because Shiloh Hendricks has now been charged. | ||
| So who is Shiloh Hendrix? | ||
| Let's remember this. | ||
| She went viral for language that she used at a Rochester Park in a video. | ||
| That went viral. | ||
| This is out of the Minnesota Star Tribune. | ||
| She has hurled racial slurs. | ||
| Now, this claims that she hurled them at a child, although that's not what we see in the video. | ||
| And it says she is being charged. | ||
| Church, can we get, can we see what she was charged with? | ||
| Or is there a paywall on this thing? | ||
| So I'm new to this. | ||
| This is a white woman yelling at a black kid or a black woman. | ||
| She's a white woman. | ||
| And we're told that there was an altercation between her and a black child, but that's not what we see. | ||
| What we see in the video is another guy who's sort of following her, chasing her, harassing her, saying, I'm filming you. | ||
| I'm coming. | ||
| I'm going to make you famous. | ||
| Puts it on TikTok. | ||
| It racks up millions and millions. | ||
| Now she's famous. | ||
| Made her million dollars. | ||
| Yeah, she says the N-word in the video, says it to a child, though. | ||
| Well, she's saying it to the guy filming in the video. | ||
| Now, he's saying that he claimed that she said it to the child. | ||
| I want to give out what did she, what was she charged with? | ||
| She said, you know, she admitted to calling him the offensive And said that she can call him that if he acts like one. | ||
| So she kind of admits saying it in the video. | ||
| So even though we don't have the video of it, she admits it in this later video. | ||
| What's he been charged with? | ||
| Three counts of disorderly conduct. | ||
| I can see the disorderly conduct, right? | ||
| She raised, she raised a ton of money on Give, Send, Go. | ||
| This was in the wake of Carmelo Anthony. | ||
| And I want to, do we know, do we have the give, send, go? | ||
| Do we know how much money she raised? | ||
| I think it was a million, right? | ||
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It was a million. | |
| I think it was a million. | ||
| I want to say it was a million. | ||
| I don't know what's exactly at right now. | ||
| But I believe she raised a million dollars off of this. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| Freedom of speech for, by the way, and I'm just going to say it, for saying a word that black people say all the time to each other. | ||
| All the time. | ||
| They don't land the R. Was he landing the R? | ||
| I mean, they just say, oh, and this, but this is the debate I want to get into, right? | ||
| So the debate is that for all of the people who say that it's freedom of speech to burn a flag, then what about Shiloh Hendrix's freedom of speech to speak? | ||
| I'm going to call it. | ||
| It is freedom of speech. | ||
| It is freedom of speech. | ||
| You should be able to say what the hell you want to say in America. | ||
| Now, whether it's whether we agree with it or not, that's up to that person. | ||
| But if this guy wants to call me a dirty spic, he can call me a dirty spic all he wants. | ||
| But what if I want to come up to your child and call your child a dirty? | ||
| That's your, I'll knock you out. | ||
| Yeah, but I mean, still, it's his freedom of speech, right? | ||
| Sure, yeah. | ||
| Okay, so it saves you from consequences from the government, but not necessarily regarding it. | ||
| But was she just going out? | ||
| No, and again, like. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Is there more to the story to do? | ||
| I think, and I don't know if the video up. | ||
| I would never know. | ||
| Are you Hispanic? | ||
| No, that's what I'm saying. | ||
| They did say though. | ||
| I don't know far after this. | ||
| I believe she said that the kid was going through her bag. | ||
| So when you go, and I'll just say this, having taken the kids to the playground, to go to the park, you have like your baby bag, your kid bag that's there. | ||
| You bring some drinks, some food, some whatever. | ||
| It's there. | ||
| And then someone starts going through your bag and you're like, hey, that's, you know, that's not. | ||
| But it was a child. | ||
| It was just a child with her. | ||
| It was the child that was going through it. | ||
| Sweetheart. | ||
| Sweetheart. | ||
| We don't know exactly what happened before the video. | ||
| And that's what I want to say. | ||
| And I always say that with viral videos, that whenever you see some video that goes crazy viral, that is going out, George Floyd is, you know, of course, the quintessential example of this. | ||
| Show me what happened five minutes before. | ||
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Right. | |
| Show me what happened five minutes before I have to come in and pass judgment. | ||
| Because if we don't have that rule, if you don't have the five minutes rule, then all of a sudden we're going to become this country that's just ruled by whatever video is going through. | ||
| Because everyone's reactionary. | ||
| That shouldn't be our system. | ||
| So I think the conversation that we're having, the ideas that we're debating with, is it's a very complex free speech issue that we're dealing with. | ||
| I think a quote that's often misattributed to Voltaire succinctly describes what we're working with. | ||
| Like he allegedly said, I know I'm misattributing this quote, but I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it. | ||
| I think the idea here is that let's say a government that you don't like eventually gets into power and has other things that they want to allege could potentially produce riots, and therefore you shouldn't be able to burn trans flags. | ||
| So it really depends. | ||
| The issue is giving the government the power to do that. | ||
| You already can't burn a trans flag. | ||
| You can burn a trans flag, as far as I'm concerned. | ||
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As far as you're concerned, but I'm saying that the law is actually concerned. | |
| I think you're misattributing a story that didn't exactly line up with somebody actually burning a trans flag. | ||
| Also, it's worth mentioning that the law that's actually passed is in regards to like somebody burning a flag and then inciting a riot as a result of it, trying to incite a riot, I think is what the actual charge is here. | ||
| But it's like, how far. | ||
| We covered that last night. | ||
| I made that. | ||
| What was the story of somebody burning the trans flag? | ||
| No, no, no, I'm talking about the American flag EO. | ||
| I made the distinction that what was passed yesterday, it was basically taking that idea that you're not going to be charged directly for the burning of the flag, but it's the incitement. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, so it's an additional, additional other things. | ||
| I think this would be a limit on free speech, although I am very conflicted. | ||
| I love our country. | ||
| I love the country's values. | ||
| I love what the flag symbolizes. | ||
| But I'm conflicted on using the law and trying to arrest people and using law enforcement as a result of that. | ||
| And where would we eventually draw the line? | ||
| And will eventually these laws be used against me? | ||
| One of the things that people consistently say, were saying to me on Twitter is, first of all, they were like, well, you know, all the stuff about the trans flag or people that were doing burnouts on the rainbow crosswalks and blah, blah, blah. | ||
| That is all the idea that anyone should be prosecuted for that is also ridiculous, right? | ||
| Like that, that shouldn't be any kind of defense because nobody that burns a trans flag or does a burnout on a rainbow cross, none of them should actually be prosecuted. | ||
| There should never be an arrest. | ||
| People bring up hate crimes. | ||
| I don't think that hate crimes are real because hate crimes are thought crimes. | ||
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Right. | |
| Like there should not be any hate crimes. | ||
| If you commit a violent act to someone, that's what you should be prosecuted for. | ||
| All hate crime is, is a thought crime, and that is outside of the realm of the government. | ||
| So like these are not particularly common. | ||
| Getting it back to Shila Hendrix, we now have word crime. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Of course, of course. | ||
| And let's think about that, right? | ||
| You know, if, if, if, if she had cursed, and I'm just going to play devil's advocate. | ||
| If she had cursed at the child, would she be getting charged? | ||
| Probably not. | ||
| No, especially if she's the N word. | ||
| But if she said, get the F away from my bag, which she may have said, would she be probably getting charged? | ||
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No. | |
| Right. | ||
| So what I'm saying is. | ||
| She's kind of in the right. | ||
| The kid was messing with her property. | ||
| I mean, I can see that, but none of us could handle that like that. | ||
| I think it's rude. | ||
| It's very rude, right? | ||
| But that's it. | ||
| But did she go ballistic and crazy afterwards and keep yelling at the kid? | ||
| Is that what happened? | ||
| I haven't even seen it. | ||
| Well, we don't know. | ||
| We don't know exactly what happened. | ||
| And that's getting back to my five-minute role. | ||
| We don't know exactly what happened. | ||
| But what I'm saying is these, this was, it was a playground thing, right? | ||
| You know, these things happen all the time on playgrounds where there's some altercation, something goes wrong. | ||
| It doesn't seem like anyone was physically hurt here in any way. | ||
| Thank God. | ||
| You know, it doesn't seem like. | ||
| Because if she just said something like, hey, get out of my bag and then said the N-word, okay. | ||
| But if she kept calling the kid names and like berating the kid, that's like abuse, right? | ||
| Right? | ||
| Kind of. | ||
| That will come up, I'm sure. | ||
| But what about the fact that the person who was harassing her caused her to be doxed, caused them to go after her family, clearly is, and by the way, is also doxing her child, putting it up to get social media clout, to get clicks, et cetera, et cetera. | ||
| And now she's a millionaire. | ||
| What if everybody in this story is deplorable and just sucks? | ||
| What about, you know, if everybody, I don't need to feel bad about anybody here. | ||
| I mean, the little kid sucks for reaching to the bag. | ||
| The way the kid's parent or guardian reacted sucks. | ||
| And we have no idea where we have no idea where the first parent is, by the way, the parent of this, the five-year-old that's going in the bag, because the person who's filming is not their parent. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| So we have no idea where that parent is. | ||
| So that's the very first thing, by the way. | ||
| And again, I'll be consistent, right? | ||
| If I said that I would go down on my kid and bring him to, you know, come down on my kid and go to the, you know, take him to the police station if he did something that like Roger Jackson did, then in the same token as this, if my kid is going through somebody else's bag at the playground, I'll say, hey, what are you doing? | ||
| My mom gave the principal the right to spank me and beat my ass and also my neighbors. | ||
| That was just last week. | ||
| Did they take the opportunity? | ||
| I kind of enjoyed it. | ||
| No, but no, really, when I was a kid, I'd hold on to the desk and bend over. | ||
| And I'd be like, oh, well, bam. | ||
| I sag West Virginia Nights. | ||
| My mom was like, Yeah, I know, but my mom was like, You deserve that. | ||
| My mom would give me preemptive ass beatings before I'd walk into a store. | ||
| She'd hit me and say, You better not do this or that. | ||
| I mean, I was raised that way. | ||
| I was raised with ass kickings all the time. | ||
| Probably that's why I'm the way I am now. | ||
| But I'm just saying, like, but I mean, I understand it. | ||
| Like, I mean, kids could be, you know, animals, dude. | ||
| They could be just, you know, for me growing up, I was always in trouble. | ||
| So I expected that. | ||
| But I mean, my neighbors, my mom gave the neighbors permission. | ||
| Like, look, if he jumps on your roof and does that again, beat his ass. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so, did she go, did she go overboard in throwing the M-word at a five-year-old? | ||
| Yeah, you could say that she did. | ||
| Dude, my mom called me some names. | ||
| I don't want to repeat. | ||
| But at the same time, where's the first parent of that child? | ||
| You get a five-year-old at a playground, you're not paying attention to him. | ||
| That's a very young age. | ||
| That is not the age of a kid that should just be, you know, let out on themselves. | ||
| I agree with that. | ||
| She's probably on her phone. | ||
| She's probably like looking for the next TikTok video, thinking, oh, what's up next? | ||
| And I see that too, by the way. | ||
| I see that, you know, and that's not a racial thing. | ||
| That's just, you know, parents are on their phones way too much. | ||
| And I try very cognizantly to get myself away from the phone. | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| Times have changed so much. | ||
| But the point is, the point is, should you face charges for that? | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| Should you face charges for charges? | ||
| Or should that be something that really probably should have stayed between? | ||
| It should have stayed on the playground. | ||
| That's all I'm saying. | ||
| I mean, me growing up, my mom used to beat the crap out of my friends. | ||
| My friends' mothers used to beat the crap out of me. | ||
| Everyone, I mean, it was just the way it was. | ||
| I don't think I definitely not be charged for that. | ||
| 100% no. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I mean, I just, I don't think it's warranted. | ||
| And that's why, by the way, when it comes to the flag burning stuff, I'm going to say, look, we already have de facto speech codes in this country. | ||
| And that's essentially what this is. | ||
| It is a de facto speech code that already exists. | ||
| It is a standard and a precedent that has already been set. | ||
| You can argue over when it was set, but it's been set and it's currently set. | ||
| We do not live in a free speech society. | ||
| We don't. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Nobody's principled in their belief in free speech. | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| People like to LARP and posture as if they are, but when push comes to shove on an issue that they care about, it kind of goes out the window. | ||
| My principle is reward patriots, punish non-patriots. | ||
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Exactly. | |
| That's my principles. | ||
| Like, you know, you can't burn the flag. | ||
| Full stop. | ||
| I don't have to justify this. | ||
| Should you talk trumpeting about the founders when they're not going to be able to do that? | ||
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I'm tolerated. | |
| You have the right to. | ||
| Not anymore. | ||
| Not as of yesterday. | ||
| No, no, Kinder. | ||
| Guys, I'm sitting here with like a third of my arm as the 13 colonies flag. | ||
| And I'm still saying, hey, it's okay. | ||
| It's not going to hurt the United States. | ||
| I know the argument that was being made, oh, this is about demoralization. | ||
| It's absolutely hurts. | ||
| I don't think that it's a problem. | ||
| I don't say that it hurts crime against the colours. | ||
| I disagree. | ||
| I don't think that it actually could have yanked those people off the street. | ||
| There's no way of kids. | ||
| There's no way to raise kids to value their country if you also teach them it's okay to burn the flag. | ||
| You tell their kids that the people that are actually burning the flag are the scum of the earth. | ||
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Right. | |
| And again, I'm the guy that's got the only guy here that's got the flag tattooed on his body. | ||
| Just because it isn't illegal doesn't mean it's okay. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I feel like we also need to. | ||
| I detest anybody with the right with it. | ||
| But if someone wants to burn the flag, I'm just going to look at them and be like, ah, what a moron. | ||
| Even worse than that. | ||
| I'm going to detest you and loathe you. | ||
| And I think you should be able to do it. | ||
| Because it's an uncontrolled burn because it's a crime. | ||
| So that's. | ||
| So what do they say? | ||
| So you could burn a flag in your own home if it's privately, but if you're inciting. | ||
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Okay. | |
| So the current EO does not cover that. | ||
| So if you went on, I said this last night. | ||
| If you went on Amazon and you purchased a flag and you brought it home, and I think somebody, there was some like 2A guy was taught he'd be like, you know, edgy and he like, he had one of those like, you know, flags. | ||
| Gun go purchased. | ||
| Yeah, you see today. | ||
| Look at me. | ||
| It's like, well, the EO doesn't cover that. | ||
| The EO says when you're at a riot or in a public setting and you are going to incite imminent illegal action or violence, that is the time when the DOJ is directed to go after you. | ||
| See, I think this is all, man, I don't know how much time we have left, but I just want to say, like, I think this is going in a direction where I think Trump is preparing for something big, man. | ||
| And I think, I think it's like, I'm serious. | ||
| There's National Guards on the streets. | ||
| I think it's getting protected speech. | ||
| It's never. | ||
| I mean, what happened in June? | ||
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You saw those kids are burning in the cars and stuff. | |
| And just to get into it again, I mean, I saw this last night. | ||
| I don't want to repeat myself, but this is a Marxist argument. | ||
| It is absolutely a Marxist twisting of the First Amendment to claim that expression is speech. | ||
| People, the pro-life movement fought against Roe v. | ||
| Wade for years and years and years and finally got it overturned because they were able to prove that it wasn't in the Constitution. | ||
| Protection of flag burning is nowhere near in the Constitution. | ||
| Believe it or not, it was decided a decade after Roe v. | ||
| Wade. | ||
| So Roe v. | ||
| Wade was around for much longer than flag burning was protected. | ||
| And yet people want to sit here and act like the founding fathers would have supported that. | ||
| It's just not true. | ||
| It's a completely Marxist argument that came up at the kind of the tail end of the counterculture, you know, sort of 60s radicals revolution. | ||
| They finally get this decision out of the Supreme Court in 1989. | ||
| And it's just, it's ridiculous. | ||
| It's completely ridiculous. | ||
| It's antithetical to our history. | ||
| And it's Marxist. | ||
| The founders went further with John Adams with the Sedition Act in 1789. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| It's like the flag burning would have been completely, that would have gotten you ostracized and probably mobbed. | ||
| They even went further with like just basic criticism. | ||
| I'm not saying that's what that's neither here nor there, but to act like the founders would have been this like, oh, yeah, that's totally fine. | ||
| Burn it. | ||
| That's just part of our rights. | ||
| I'm fine. | ||
| It's like, that's not how American structure is. | ||
| I don't agree with it at all. | ||
| I don't think you should burn a flag. | ||
| Absolutely not, but you should have the right to do it. | ||
| If you're an idiot, you have the right to be an idiot. | ||
| But that's Marxism. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That is a Marxist argument that has come up, only started in Marxist in the 1960s. | ||
| People deploy the same argument with pornography. | ||
| That's how they defend the use of pornographies. | ||
| They're saying, well, I disagree with it, but you have the right to do it. | ||
| I'm like, but this is clearly destructive to anyone. | ||
| How many years did states have obscenity laws? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Obscenity laws, blasphemy laws. | ||
| You're making a good point. | ||
| Like, if your girlfriend or your wife sends naked pictures of herself, your wife, for context, right? | ||
| So say your wife sends you naked pictures. | ||
| That's pornography. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's different than publishing. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because this is distribution to the public with an intent to attempt to sway society. | ||
| So it's not sway society. | ||
| But what he's arguing, and what I'm trying to argue is that this is our actual history, right? | ||
| So for people who want to claim that, oh, the founder, like it's a foundational belief of America that you have to, you know, you have to allow for flag burning and pornography and, you know, and all this stuff. | ||
| No, it's just not true. | ||
| It's never been true. | ||
| It's just, it is an ahistorical Marxist argument. | ||
| So I disagree that it's a Marxist argument. | ||
| You're promoting Marxism, Phil. | ||
| Like I said, I disagree that it's a Marxist argument. | ||
| But talk to the Marxists. | ||
| With the American flag on his arm. | ||
| So while we're getting dead. | ||
| You Marxists. | ||
| While we're getting deeply engaged in the philosophical debate here. | ||
| I'm still going to defend the right of people to do what they want. | ||
| If they want to burn a flag, you have the right to do that. | ||
| If I agree with this, I don't agree with this. | ||
| But I don't agree with you. | ||
| Karl Marx would be so happy with you right now. | ||
| The president would love you. | ||
| I think the president is a lot more pragmatic in what he's doing for political reasons. | ||
| So I think the president is extremely effective at baiting Democrats and stupid people in the media into taking his bait. | ||
| So what do I mean by that? | ||
| When he says he's sending the National Guard into D.C. to fight crime, he's making Democrats defend crime. | ||
| So now when he's saying he's going to make burning the flags illegal, he's going to make Democrats defend burning flags. | ||
| And he's putting them in this rhetorical argument where they're being forced to defend the worst things because it's what he is doing. | ||
| So as far as being like a pragmatic political operator, I think Trump's very effective in what he's trying to set Democrats up to. | ||
| Setting traps. | ||
| That's what I think he's doing here. | ||
| I think he's already there. | ||
| I don't think he cares about the philosophy or is it right or wrong? | ||
| He's thinking, oh, burning flags, you know, is bad enough. | ||
| I'm going to make the Democrats defend burning flags. | ||
| Well, no, I'm going to make Democrats defend crime. | ||
| He's going to get them to do that. | ||
| Well, Trump says, I can't do this. | ||
| I'm going to do it. | ||
| And now they're going to burn flags. | ||
| It'll be principled in your free speech and burning flags. | ||
| See how much the public likes that. | ||
| But I think that's what the president is baiting people into doing. | ||
| He is a very savvy political operator in how he's behaving here. | ||
| That's what I think people should be 3D chess thinking about these Trump moves because these moves didn't come out of nowhere, right? | ||
| He's trying to set up a narrative. | ||
| But flag burning has been controversial for like 30 years. | ||
| This isn't like a recent just Trump giving. | ||
| Well, he's bringing it back into the news. | ||
| Funny enough, Hillary Clinton actually supported this in 2005. | ||
| Go figure. | ||
| When she was a senator, this was something that was so, you know, it was so like quote unquote popular, popular, you know, in Rally Around the Flag, 2019 11 environment that even Hillary was like, yeah, we should get on board with this. | ||
| So Hillary W, I guess. | ||
| So, you know, we all saw what happened in June, right? | ||
| They're waving the Mexican flag. | ||
| They're burning American flags, you know, the riots, the protests that happened in the future. | ||
| Yeah, we talked about this a ton last night. | ||
| Yeah, and so obviously I feel with him putting the troops on the streets in D.C., getting ready now, what, 19 states, I think he's getting ready for something much bigger. | ||
| And this is all everything, all the moves he's making is alluding to this to me. | ||
| From what I can see from a 60,000-foot view, is I think something bigger is coming around the corner and he's preparing for it with protests and civil unrest. | ||
| And I think that could be maybe when people start getting arrested, dog. | ||
| I'm just saying, because if they'll do it for what you're saying is, if I just hear this, Rake, because this EO, and a lot of pointed out that it's very specifically talking about these instances in public and yes, he's getting ahead of the ball. | ||
| So he's thinking something's going on. | ||
| He's thinking like a general. | ||
| He sees what's coming. | ||
| He's like, okay, because if they'll riot and protest when George Floyd got arrested, right? | ||
| Your liberal next door was rioting and protesting. | ||
| Everyone was going crazy. | ||
| So if they'll do that with George Floyd, what are they going to do? | ||
| Let's say, I don't know, Hillary Obama gets arrested. | ||
| Let's say that comes. | ||
| He's getting ahead of the ball here with this. | ||
| So he's setting his chess pieces. | ||
| He's setting his chess pieces in order here to make those moves. | ||
| He's moving in the troops. | ||
| He's setting the perimeters. | ||
| Do you guys get what I'm saying here? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Stop getting my hopes up. | ||
| I'm telling you, this is coming. | ||
| I can see, dude, I would love it. | ||
| I've been watching the budget. | ||
| Phil's going to be sitting there and watching. | ||
| Why are you arresting the flag burners? | ||
| Bob, look at my tattoo, please. | ||
| I bet you're not going to be able to do it. | ||
| Obviously, he's going to be crying out of your puddle. | ||
| He's going to be singing. | ||
| I know you all are thinking about it. | ||
| I didn't know that you were so into struggle. | ||
| Defending the strugglemen arguments. | ||
| I didn't really want to go. | ||
| Liberals accuse him of that all the time. | ||
| Defending. | ||
| I will always. | ||
| I mean, we just strawman argument. | ||
| I've never said that I'm like, oh, the poor guy, blah, blah, blah. | ||
| I'm just saying that it should not, people should not go to jail for it. | ||
| So making it out like I'm like some kind of bleeding heart liberal is ridiculous. | ||
| But dude, what are they going to do? | ||
| You're kind of simping for flag burners. | ||
| I'm not simping for flag burners at all. | ||
| I haven't said, oh, the poor flag burners or anything. | ||
| I'm saying that the principle of free expression and free speech includes flag burning. | ||
| Where is the word? | ||
| If the word is fine, but to sit there and strawman me is just okay. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Where is free expression in the Constitution? | ||
| Please. | ||
| I said free expression and free speech. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Great difference. | ||
| So pull up free expression in the Constitution. | ||
| So I know that I'm aware that it's not in the Constitution. | ||
| So just pull it up for me. | ||
| I just told you I'm aware that free expression is not in the Constitution, but freedom of association or free, but freedom of association isn't in it either. | ||
| But people on the right always say, oh, we should have freedom of assembly is there. | ||
| Freedom of association, which is different than freedom. | ||
| If you're going to say that freedom of assembly is the same thing as freedom of association, then freedom of expression is the same thing as freedom of speech. | ||
| So physical act is not speech. | ||
| I'm saying if you're going to move the argument that they're the same, then abortion is not privacy. | ||
| I'm not making the argument that abortion is privacy. | ||
| No, I'm just saying these are things that Marxists did to our Constitution to twist the meaning of words to get people to suddenly say, oh, I'm defending freedom by defending all these things that degrade, demoralize, and destroy my country. | ||
| So like I said, the freedom of speech, I think that if you burn the flag, that's expressing yourself. | ||
| That's not in the Constitution. | ||
| It's speech is in the Constitution. | ||
| Show me where it is in the Constitution. | ||
| It's speech. | ||
| The point is it's speech. | ||
| You keep saying, show me where it's in the Constitution. | ||
| I told you, I straight up. | ||
| I have to agree with you, but I'm aware that. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| I'm not trying to cut you off. | ||
| No, no, no, but you're twisting the word to the Constitution. | ||
| To achieve a goal that the communists want. | ||
| It's pornography speech? | ||
| Can I just... | ||
| I think it's fine. | ||
| You think... | ||
| I don't think that it's... | ||
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I don't... | |
| Is it speech? | ||
| I think that it's... | ||
| I think that... | ||
| I think that... | ||
| There are sometimes speech. | ||
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Hashtag Western United Nights. | |
| I think that speech does cover freedom of expression because you're expressing yourself. | ||
| Can I just say this? | ||
| Expression is not speech. | ||
| I think what he's doing here is brilliant in a way. | ||
| And I agree with you, by the way. | ||
| I agree with you. | ||
| But I think he's putting his chess pieces in position for what the liberals love to do when they're protesting and chanting and rioting. | ||
| They burn flags. | ||
| Dude, he's getting ready. | ||
| He's getting ahead of the ball. | ||
| I'm telling you, he's like a war general. | ||
| He sees what's coming. | ||
| Something big is going to come. | ||
| Do you agree with me? | ||
| I think he's just baiting glibs. | ||
| He's baiting libs. | ||
| What's going to happen is they're going to go crazy. | ||
| I'm telling you, real life. | ||
| I mean, I agree that I think that is what he's doing. | ||
| And he did the same thing on crime. | ||
| He was baiting glibs to say, oh, no, a few muggings are okay. | ||
| Like a few shootings. | ||
| I think he believes it too. | ||
| I mean, to be fair. | ||
| I think he's against flag burning. | ||
| As a savvy political move. | ||
| I think this other stuff is immaterial to him. | ||
| I think he's just very savvy political. | ||
| I think he's a patriot and he loves America and he hates to see that happening. | ||
| I don't think we're seldom going to see this invoked. | ||
| I see. | ||
| Someone in the chat is asking, can we burn Phil's arm as free speech? | ||
| But I see with what Trump is doing with the troops and everything he's doing, he is setting his pieces up for strategy, the whole flag burning thing. | ||
| It's all strategy. | ||
| I think what's coming, he's preparing for something he knows they're going to be set off. | ||
| It's so funny. | ||
| By the way, there's a bunch. | ||
| It's funny because there's a bunch of people in the chat who are like, we're like, Pesobic is making things wrong. | ||
| And I'm like, guys, it's not in the Constitution. | ||
| It's just not there. | ||
| Like, you can claim it is all you want, but it's just not there. | ||
| The same way that abortion is not in the Constitution. | ||
| It's just not there. | ||
| You want to pivot to super chats? | ||
| We do have to. | ||
| Yeah, we do have to. | ||
| I feel bad for those. | ||
| Serge has been texting me for a while. | ||
| So I'm looking at the chats, and I do want to get that. | ||
| I feel like we never run through the super chats enough. | ||
| We don't want to search. | ||
| I'm a three-time Trump voter and longtime Tim Cast fan. | ||
| A lot of the staff and the right in general now flirt with authoritarianism. | ||
| If you say F the rules, F principles, how are you better than Beto? | ||
| I'm the only one here who's actually reading the Constitution and defending it. | ||
| The thing is, the Constitution says a lot of things that don't exist in reality right now. | ||
| Tell me what the Second Amendment is right now. | ||
| I cannot have equal rights to a firearm. | ||
| I cannot carry a firearm in most of the places that I live. | ||
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| Effectively. | ||
| But oh, it's the Second Amendment. | ||
| oh it's in the constitution okay the constitution doesn't apply to most of the things in our practical real life right now or there are more laws added after the fact that that doesn't mean you shouldn't defend it You're not wrong. | ||
| But as for pragmatic practical purposes, go. | ||
| So are you saying that the act of burning the flag is not freedom of speech? | ||
| It's the act of putting it on fire. | ||
| Sorry, we're going to be. | ||
| That's what you're saying. | ||
| No, I'm trying to really absorb this. | ||
| That's what you're saying, right? | ||
| That the act of lighting a flag on fire is not a free. | ||
| That's not freedom of speech. | ||
| It's not. | ||
| He's arguing that it's not speech. | ||
| It's not speaking. | ||
| But because it's not speech. | ||
| Because it's not someone. | ||
| It's like a category after speech. | ||
| It's not a category or speech. | ||
| It's an act. | ||
| So if you and I are speaking. | ||
| It's like vandalism. | ||
| Freedom of speech. | ||
| Vandalism. | ||
| I think it's incitement is what people were arguing in the incitement is the EO. | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
| They were going further. | ||
| Yeah, obviously I'm going further. | ||
| I'm just trying to understand this better, but this is just if it's done in public settings in a protest, then that's against the law. | ||
| But if someone has a flag in their own home and they want to burn their flag that they bought, they can do that. | ||
| That's where I'm. | ||
| That's not, I don't understand the current, under the current EO, you could. | ||
| So you could burn an American flag in your home, but if you're out at a protest, you start burning the flag, that's against the law. | ||
| That's the current executive order, yes. | ||
| Because he says that it's incitement. | ||
| I do have to get to the super chats because I'm being very remiss. | ||
| I do like this conversation, though. | ||
| Wait. | ||
| Okay, sorry. | ||
| I'm looking at the wrong spot. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| This is from Metho671. | ||
| This is Rumble. | ||
| This is Rumble Rant. | ||
| If Trump accepts 600,000 Chinese students, he should be impeached and removed under the 25th. | ||
| China is an enemy of the United States and is plotting our downfall every day. | ||
| And I voted for him. | ||
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Wow. | |
| So again, I mean, that's what we titled this episode, that there's a MAGA uproar. | ||
| And there you go. | ||
| Where are we going? | ||
| A lot is nuts. | ||
| This is from Spork Witch. | ||
| what is a spork witch now that is that's not Now that is a jig. | ||
| Did they give a take that they were upset about? | ||
| So college doesn't teach American values. | ||
| It indoctrinates students in Marxism. | ||
| China only allows party members in good standing to go zero benefit, all cost and harm. | ||
| That's just not true on both accounts. | ||
| And Posto, maybe you could talk more to the China part, but I just don't think that's the case. | ||
| But let's go. | ||
| I mean, I'd say it's probably a case-by-case basis, but if you are a party member, you're going to have a more chance. | ||
| Or from a family that has a party member, there's a better chance you're going to make it. | ||
| Let's see. | ||
| The only rational reason for the students is to use them as hostages for the CCP. | ||
| This is from SPQR 2008. | ||
| So returning Rome, the Roman Empire in the 2008. | ||
| Using them as hostages for the CCP not taking Taiwan or the South China Sea. | ||
| Matt Rides, a friend married a Chinese girl. | ||
| Her bro is in the army. | ||
| By the way, that's interesting because most people in China are one child, but that's changing. | ||
| Good point. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Maybe this is fake news. | ||
| They've been relaxing it in recent years. | ||
| So if you're younger, it's possible. | ||
| Like Gen Z. | ||
| So millennials don't have siblings in China, but Gen Z kind of can. | ||
| But in some cases, again, if you're a CCP elite, or if you have a special dispensation, you can get around the rules. | ||
| And so he was told that because his sister is married to a foreigner, he is not eligible for promotion in the army. | ||
| CCP has zero issue with holding family accountable. | ||
| So this family reprisal, collective punishment. | ||
| This was to my point earlier that Chinese nationalists are also against student visas for Chinese people coming over here. | ||
| That's more of a reason to not do it. | ||
| MFT2 says, how long will Xi still be in charge of China? | ||
| Rumor is he is on the outs with his party. | ||
| Yeah, I see that headline. | ||
| Gosh, it's like routine every six months. | ||
| He's about to go. | ||
| The CCP is about to fall. | ||
| They're about to fall. | ||
| They're going to fall tomorrow. | ||
| And then they just keep going. | ||
| He just keeps purging them. | ||
| Anybody who questions their loyalty, even the people who are loyal to CCP, Xi Jinping and the CCP, he just keeps doing these so-called corruption purges. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And of business leaders too. | ||
| Anybody gets too powerful? | ||
| They were putting it on TV. | ||
| So it was the number one show in China at one point where the struggle sessions, because you don't have to hold them in these mass public settings in soccer stadiums anymore, like the Cultural Revolution, they were putting them on TV and they made like a reality show about it. | ||
| So and you would actually have to get the official who's being purged, the purgee, I suppose, is now on camera speaking to the camera, reciting their crimes against the nation. | ||
| And you get to see all of the things they did, and then that person gets purged. | ||
| And this was like number one, highest rated show in China when it was out. | ||
| You know, to the point of, you know, if she were to be, you know, die or taken out of power or whatever, that doesn't mean that the government's going to change. | ||
| It just means that she's not the guy in charge. | ||
| It just gets replaced. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It would just be another person. | ||
| Here's an interesting... | ||
| She gets replaced with Lee. | ||
| Here's an, but I think Xi Jinping will be there for quite some time. | ||
| I really do. | ||
| And by the way, he could, it wouldn't surprise me also if he pulled the Medvedev swap like Putin did for a minute. | ||
| So, you know, you do, you stand down for one term, you know, go into a lesser role and then come back as the overall leader. | ||
| It wouldn't surprise me if there was something like that that happened. | ||
| Really interesting comment from Corbin26. | ||
| I'm a second generation immigrant. | ||
| I speak English, French, Spanish, and my parents' languages. | ||
| We believe in MAGA, yet are still not seen as American enough. | ||
| Do we have to abandon our original culture to belong? | ||
| And I would say, look, I think personally that, and I'll open it up, but just from my personal answer would be that, you know, assimilation is a multi-generational process. | ||
| It just is. | ||
| I don't think it makes you any less American if you are a first generation immigrant or a second generation immigrant. | ||
| I don't think you should listen to people who say otherwise. | ||
| You're just as much of an American and you have equal rights compared to those people. | ||
| So as far as I'm concerned, there's a difference between having the rights of an American citizen and being an American. | ||
| Well, I don't, what is what are the qualifications and what allows you to do that? | ||
| No, no, what I'm talking about is this multi-generational process of listening. | ||
| I don't think you need to be here for multiple generations to be an equal American. | ||
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What? | |
| One person can't be here for multiple generations. | ||
| Or if their family was here for multiple generations, I don't think that would make one person more. | ||
| What are they saying? | ||
| They don't want to be like they're not. | ||
| What about being proud of your heritage? | ||
| I mean, my family's from Mexico. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I mean, I'm proud of my Mexican heritage. | ||
| What exactly are they saying? | ||
| Well, it's not. | ||
| I'm making the distinction between what is an American versus what is an American citizen. | ||
| And I think they were asking, you know, when do I become American? | ||
| If you live here legally, man, you're an American. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| But there's a difference between being someone who is just a legal immigrant versus someone who's been here for hundreds of years. | ||
| Yeah, like, I'm more American than Elon. | ||
| You just said yourself that you can't be here for years. | ||
| Yeah, you can't be a family who's been here for hundreds of years. | ||
| So I'm trying to understand what's the difference between how American someone is and the citizenship. | ||
| What's one is one is a legal piece of paper and one is a proud. | ||
| I'm trying to understand what is what makes someone American beyond citizenship. | ||
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Shared culture. | |
| Shared culture, shared heritage, shared. | ||
| That's what makes America so rich and great is that everyone has a different culture. | ||
| Everyone brings it all to the table. | ||
| Everyone here is shared. | ||
| But there is a core American culture for sure. | ||
| And that's what they mentioned. | ||
| We share. | ||
| High dogs and baseball. | ||
| I mean, I know what you're saying. | ||
| I know it is our American thing. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| And I love them. | ||
| But I'm just saying, like, but everyone kind of brings something to the table from Italy, from Mexico. | ||
| We're all here together, you know, making America so rich and beautiful. | ||
| The point that is kind of being talked about or that they're kind of dancing around is there are people that think that America is a white Protestant country. | ||
| And if you're not white Protestant, you're kind of not a real American. | ||
| And whether or not people, whether or not people, you know, and the problem with this. | ||
| Show that to the Indians. | ||
| Well, I mean, like, title Americans. | ||
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A lot of American Americans before the Europeans came. | |
| But I'm not making an argument for that or against that. | ||
| But the point that the person's getting at, and that's kind of what the discussion online is now. | ||
| The people that say, talk about heritage Americans or real Americans, what they're talking about is people that are white Anglo-Saxon Protestants, right? | ||
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That is maybe Catholic country. | |
| Yeah, right. | ||
| And so the people that are not white Anglo-Saxon Protestants, they're suspects somehow. | ||
| And that's honestly the way that it goes. | ||
| I wouldn't necessarily say suspect. | ||
| I would just say that you're from a country or a culture that is separate from the original Americans. | ||
| But I don't think the thing that happens based on that. | ||
| And your Americanness, I think, depends on your belief in American values, which aren't inherently based to any original founding stock of the country. | ||
| So you just divide the world between Americans and future Americans. | ||
| People will make an argument that it does. | ||
| People make an argument that America is for a particular people and that other people can't assimilate. | ||
| Yeah, and I'd argue that it's un-American and not found in the Constitution. | ||
| Well, people can assimilate, but they're assimilating to something. | ||
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Right. | |
| So what are they saying? | ||
| The American values, but the American values inherently. | ||
| I don't think America is just an idea, though. | ||
| The American people are a people. | ||
| The American nation is a nation of people. | ||
| You have to assume that it's a different thing. | ||
| Right, and it takes different kinds of people to make America. | ||
| America has changed over time, but the idea that the American people are just this amorphous blob and that anyone can just automatically become American because you get a piece of paper, it's ridiculous on its face. | ||
| I can't go to, I mentioned living in China, I speak Chinese. | ||
| I can't just, I can't become Chinese. | ||
| Let me ask. | ||
| If I'm a member of the founding stock, Mayflower, what have you, but I'm a hardline communist leftist. | ||
| Am I any? | ||
| I've heard all these arguments all week. | ||
| Great. | ||
| So you could have a good answer for it, right? | ||
| So what do you think? | ||
| Like, am I any less American if I'm a die-hard communist, hate America, hate American values, want the country and the government to be overthrown? | ||
| Am I more American than as the super chatter who's. | ||
| I'd be a stupid American, but you'd still be an American. | ||
| I'd be more of an American than the person who's here as a second generationer. | ||
| I think this guy said his parents were. | ||
| It's a matter of history. | ||
| It's not something that I can change. | ||
| In your eyes, is the person. | ||
| It's not in my eyes. | ||
| It's just a matter of history. | ||
| It's a matter of your interpretation of what it means to be an American. | ||
| We're describing a mechanism at work. | ||
| Yeah, it's a historical mechanism. | ||
| Those were the people who founded America. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So now we were valuing people on how much somebody is American or not. | ||
| Well, you're an alley. | ||
| It's not valuing. | ||
| I'm thinking about valuing. | ||
| You're adding that word again, just like you added. | ||
| But you're thinking about evaluating, not valuing. | ||
| He was saying valuing. | ||
| You're saying valuing? | ||
| I was trying to get to the point that I feel like you're purposefully not trying to tangle with. | ||
| So again, this guy was saying he doesn't truly feel American or feels less of American because he was a second generation immigrant. | ||
| I'm asking you now, you already said you're asked this all the time, so you should have a well-thought-out answer. | ||
| You know, somebody, again, founding stock came here on the Mayflower, but is currently in his day and age, a die-hard communist, wants to overthrow the government, is a revolutionary compared to the super chatter who said, you know, he's a second generation American. | ||
| Are these people of equal American-ness to you? | ||
| Is one more or less American to you? | ||
| One more or less. | ||
| I mean, they're separate things. | ||
| So you're taking someone's mental status and trying to imbibe that to their family's history. | ||
| I'm talking about their family's history. | ||
| I'm not talking about whether they're a liberal or a conservative or any of these things. | ||
| So you're saying that that guy would be more American, the die-hard communist whose family came here and has been here since the Mayflower. | ||
| It's simply a matter of history. | ||
| Okay, so say, I feel like you're more than a person who comes from, we're very, we're like right on the end. | ||
| So we should, I think, because we all agree to carry this over, carry this over. | ||
| So the answer is yes, obviously. | ||
| That person is from the founding stock of America, and a person who is an immigrant, if they're not from that culture, is not. | ||
| Yeah, I think the exact opposite, and I think that person is actually would be a threat to America and Americans. | ||
| I'm not saying they're not a threat, but it's also just a matter of history, and it's just an immutable fact. | ||
| Real immutable facts are true. | ||
| We are a little bit over. | ||
| We did not shout out stuff. | ||
| Are we able to do that, Serge, if that's okay? | ||
| Because I want to make sure Nino gets a chance to shout out where he's from because he was a great guest. | ||
| Oh, I appreciate that. | ||
| I like the ending here. | ||
| I was like, I want to be a referee. | ||
| Well, we have another hour. | ||
| We have another hour. | ||
| So let's do that for you. | ||
| You can start swinging if you want to. | ||
| Who's being right? | ||
| Who's wrong? | ||
| No, just tell people where I'm at. | ||
| Is that what you're saying? | ||
| Nino's Corner. | ||
| Yeah, Nino's Corner.tv. | ||
| I left the fighting arena, the physical fight of boxing to following everything on the deep state war. | ||
| That's Nino'sCorner.tv. | ||
| It's also Nino's Corner on YouTube and Rumble Nino's Corner. | ||
| X is Nino Boxer. | ||
| And that's about it. | ||
| Thank you guys for tuning in, everybody. | ||
| I'm Alad Eliyahu, the White House correspondent here at Timcast. | ||
| Did I bomb it too hard? | ||
| Also, have been on the immigration beat, which has been crazy. | ||
| I might get the opportunity soon to do a couple of write-alongs, which would be a great opportunity. | ||
| So I'm really thankful to be on the lookout for that. | ||
| You can follow me at Alad Eliyahu on Instagram and on Twitter. | ||
| Tate. | ||
| Find me on X at RealTape Brown on Instagram at RealTape Brown. | ||
| See me on the morning show tomorrow. | ||
| I'll be there. | ||
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| Ladies and gentlemen, you have my permission to lay ashore. | ||
| Stay tuned for the Super Chat, where I will be explaining what is an American. | ||
| Oh, I love you. | ||
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I'll call you in Louis. | |
| You got to sit down. | ||
| It's all right. | ||
| Hey, Bill, you're on. | ||
| Hey, guys. | ||
| How you doing? | ||
| All right, I got to go. | ||
| Oh, the chat's all mad at me. | ||
| It's so funny. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| They're always mad. | ||
| Chat's mad at everything all the time. | ||
| They're always literally always mad. | ||
| The reason they're in the chat is because they're mad. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| Jack is right. | ||
| Jack is right. | ||
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Yeah, you see some people saying Jack's right. | |
| Jack is right. | ||
| I mean, it's not even my position, though. | ||
| It's just true. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's just true. | ||
| Like, the sky is blue. | ||
| Water's wet. | ||
| I think it's a form of freedom of speech within the actual. | ||
| Wait, are we up or not? | ||
| We're rolling right now. | ||
| We're rolling. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Why don't I, you know, I'll always. | ||
| I just put up post-millennial because I figured you might know something you want to see one talk about. | ||
| Jack only does missionary no comment. | ||
| Do we have to put these on or what are we doing in Jesus? | ||
| But for the graphic, I don't believe that, you know, I don't, you know, you mentioned Strawman arguments, Phil, and I didn't say that you have to be a white Protestant to be an American. | ||
| And I'm not making that argument either. | ||
| I was kind of wondering what discussion I came in on. | ||
| I'm like, I'm on the other side. | ||
| And I don't think that's the argument that most people are making. | ||
| I do agree that Groipers and some people do make that argument, but the argument that I'm making is it's just a historical, like I'm making a historical description. | ||
| I'm describing that the founders of the country and the majority of the country at the time of the founding were white Anglo-Saxon Protestants. | ||
| Which is just true. | ||
| Yeah, I'm not. | ||
| And so, yes, someone descended from that family, from one of those families, is going to be obviously and just physically connected more towards founders than someone who came later. | ||
| Well, what makes them more connected, right? | ||
| Not the family, not the family, but the individual. | ||
| DNA. | ||
| But like Aladd was saying, if you're dealing with someone that is an avowed communist that has lineage going back all the way to the Mayflower, right? | ||
| Most of them do. | ||
| Well, the avowed communist, in my opinion, is less— But I'm not making any—so the issue here is we're looking at two different definitions of American, right? | ||
| So there's— And it's American as a definitional nation versus America as a propositional nation. | ||
| And so the propositional nation argument is this sort of like values, belief-based argument that, well, if you just agree to this set of terms, now suddenly you're just immediately an American. | ||
| And I'm not saying that there isn't an American spirit, which I would definitely not argue at all. | ||
| But what I'm saying is that the American people are a people with a definition and a people who have a history, a history that goes back 400 years, maybe 500 years ago. | ||
| So not necessarily the white pilgrim. | ||
| Not really. | ||
| That's not an American. | ||
| That's not. | ||
| What about the Cherokee Indian? | ||
| Well, they're not American. | ||
| They're not American people. | ||
| But what if they... | ||
| Because the settlers created America. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Okay, but what if they're Indians? | ||
| I would say they're Indians. | ||
| And then they converted. | ||
| They fought for the wars. | ||
| Like my, let's say, my grandfather, my dad's brother, right? | ||
| My uncle. | ||
| He's as brown as brown can be. | ||
| I'm just saying they're American. | ||
| But he loves America. | ||
| He would have been there from the founding as well. | ||
| But he was before they even came. | ||
| He was here in America. | ||
| He was an Indian. | ||
| What did he call the place? | ||
| Not before it was created. | ||
| And also, did he... | ||
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I'm just saying, I think it's all colors, shapes, and sizes. | |
| Is he a member of a tribe? | ||
| Is he a Cherokee, you know? | ||
| Is he an American citizen? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So, I mean, that's what I'm saying. | ||
| Like, all shapes and all colors, creeds that are American. | ||
| I mean, I don't want to go. | ||
| I don't feel like we should be going too far. | ||
| My problem with. | ||
| And I'm half white. | ||
| You know, I'm also white. | ||
| Well, like, I'm as good as what is he? | ||
| I would say he's, he's, you know, does he go by Native American? | ||
| No, he would just say he's Mexicano. | ||
| He's Chicano, right? | ||
| He would say he's El Paso Chicano. | ||
| then there you go then that's that's that's the type of person he is he's been But he's American and he fought for the war. | ||
| He fought for World War II. | ||
| He's certainly American citizens. | ||
| There's no obvious, there's no question. | ||
| But what I'm saying is there is a difference in the specific group of people I'm talking about, the wider groups that are out there, and people who are coming like Johan Omar or a Azora Mondami or a what's the guy? | ||
| Thinking of brown people? | ||
| Omar Fatah, who came over. | ||
| No, no, no, no, hold on. | ||
| What about a Sergeant? | ||
| And I agree with you on that. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| He's a South American. | ||
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North American, bro. | |
| Or South African. | ||
| South America. | ||
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What about like the black people that fought for the civil war? | |
| Or come on, I mean, what's Akimi? | ||
| Or like my own family, right? | ||
| People are like, oh, Pesobic, you're Polish, right? | ||
| Like, yeah, I know. | ||
| Like, I talk about it all the time. | ||
| Literally. | ||
| Your parents. | ||
| Were you born here? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| My parents were born here? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Okay, and your grandparents? | ||
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Yes. | |
| Oh, so you've been in America. | ||
| So you've been in the States for some time, I guess. | ||
| That's why. | ||
| Our family has for a minute, yeah. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Okay. | ||
| So, you know, pre-World War II, I guess you would say. | ||
| I forget which. | ||
| There was the meme. | ||
| I forget what live. | ||
| Anabelle. | ||
| Ellis Islanders. | ||
| America's founding, though. | ||
| There were a lot of non-Americans involved. | ||
| Famously, I forget his name, Koskusko. | ||
| Shoshusko. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Shushko and Bulaski. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He was a Polish revolutionary. | ||
| Yeah, but there weren't. | ||
| Even though that was my point, point to people. | ||
| I understand his point, too. | ||
| But you know what I'm getting at, right? | ||
| 100%. | ||
| I feel like we're beating around the bush of what we're really saying. | ||
| Are we talking about white people? | ||
| I think that's kind of what it sounds like. | ||
| So, the point, but I get what he's saying. | ||
| I understand what you're saying, but like, try arguing that with a black guy whose grandfather's great-grandfather served in the Civil War. | ||
| Black Americans. | ||
| Those black people do argue that they're like, we're African descendants of slavery. | ||
| African descendants of mine. | ||
| This is a real touchy argument. | ||
| They're also distinctly American as a group. | ||
| They're African-American. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| They don't exist outside of the context of the United States. | ||
| But the point, listen, the reason that I object to this is not because I have some kind of disagreement about who the first settlers were, because it's, I mean, like you said, it's just historical fact, right? | ||
| The settlers were wasps, right? | ||
| They were all wasps. | ||
| And I'm the waspiest guy in here. | ||
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Like, no, no, no, no, no, no. | |
| Pull ancestry DNA out. | ||
| Ignore wasping out. | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Just ignore. | ||
| Anyways, like I said, I'm the waspiest guy every time. | ||
| But the point. | ||
| The point that I'm making is that I am occasionally passing, but if people look, they're like, nah. | ||
| The point that I'm making. | ||
| Listen, once you start making these arguments, it inevitably starts breaking down into you're not good enough. | ||
| You're not enough. | ||
| You're not. | ||
| It's the exact same. | ||
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What? | |
| But yeah, I mean, it always starts breaking down like that. | ||
| And it's, and the point that I, the reason why I'm against it is because that will tear the country apart. | ||
| That will tear the country. | ||
| What you're saying is that the country is currently being torn apart by mass immigration. | ||
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Yes. | |
| And most of that mass immigration has taken place since 1965. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And so the real place where I'm trying to get, and people keep saying, what is your attempt? | ||
| So you're, you know, I'm kind of getting around what is your intent with this. | ||
| Media Matters was saying Pesobic's intent with this is clearly to deport legal immigrants. | ||
| It's like, that's literally, I've never said that once. | ||
| I've never even said that Zora Madami should be deported. | ||
| People make some pretty interesting arguments. | ||
| I have said that about Ilana. | ||
| I would not mind a denaturalization. | ||
| I've said she denaturalized because she committed fraud, because she committed fraud in the naturalization process of not her own, but of her brother. | ||
| She committed fraud there. | ||
| And potentially education fraud as well. | ||
| So that they could get the benefits of this. | ||
| But no, the issue is because the way we talk about immigration is completely broken. | ||
| And the idea that the American people are not a definite people is just not true. | ||
| It's not historically true. | ||
| It's not factually true. | ||
| We can all see it with our own eyes when we're going. | ||
| And what we have now is a nation comprised of sort of the mass nation that is America, but then you also have these mini ethnic enclaves that are growing up in areas like Dearborn. | ||
| And so we were talking about this in the context of the UK, but it's happening here now too. | ||
| And you mentioned Plano, right? | ||
| You were saying Plano is getting like that. | ||
| But that's always existed with even different flavors of white. | ||
| Never to this extent, though. | ||
| Never to this extent. | ||
| No, they hated the Catholics, and I'm pretty sure they blamed them for a ton of shit. | ||
| They did. | ||
| And then questioned their loyalty. | ||
| They couldn't run for office. | ||
| The original dual was like, oh, are they loyal to the Pope? | ||
| So, no, they actually didn't do this. | ||
| Where you're wrong, though, is that it is a category error, right? | ||
| It's a category error because you're talking about, and we mentioned this earlier, that you're talking about cultures and civilizations of people that are so far removed from the direct American culture. | ||
| And people are saying, like, okay, can they assimilate? | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| Are Catholics from Latin America so far removed that they can't assimilate? | ||
| Well, that's something we were just talking about. | ||
| The liberal theology ones are. | ||
| You were talking about earlier. | ||
| Let me bring this argument. | ||
| Wait, is that a, do you like, no? | ||
| Do you, do you believe that Catholics in Latin America can't assimilate here properly? | ||
| Can they? | ||
| Again, I think assimilation is a multi-generational process that takes time and should never be done in a massive way. | ||
| That's why I want to end all immigration for 10 years. | ||
| Like, I have the hardcore, I probably have the hardest for America's absolutely full. | ||
| Yeah, I probably have the hardest core immigration stance out of anybody around. | ||
| And I articulate the money. | ||
| Let me tell you the arguments I have for the 300,000 extra Chinese we're about to get. | ||
| Get him out. | ||
| All of them out. | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| You know, we're going to deport him. | ||
| He's going to double them. | ||
| Let me just tell you the arguments I have to hear. | ||
| I have to hear that. | ||
| I think if we need that, I think forcing this conversation. | ||
| Do you want to cancel? | ||
| Double him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The reason I'm forcing the conversation, and I have been online, is because I think we have a lot of lazy thinking. | ||
| It's very romantic thinking, right? | ||
| It's very, which all communism and Marxism is rooted in romance. | ||
| I get your point. | ||
| That we can have this utopia and everyone can have these great values and it's this universal egalitarianism where everyone can be living in a Jeffersonian republic and it's going to be wonderful. | ||
| I get your thinking. | ||
| And it just doesn't work. | ||
| Here's what I'll say. | ||
| I'll leave it at this. | ||
| If you replaced the American people with the people of Afghanistan overnight, you get Afghanistan. | ||
| You need to get Afghanistan. | ||
| And so, but by the same token, if you took the American people as skiparized today and put them in the territory of Afghanistan, they would start building. | ||
| Hold on, let me just say this. | ||
| One second. | ||
| To your point, people, the Iraq war proved it, right? | ||
| So the argument that was made about Iraq was we will be greeted as liberators. | ||
| We'll go in there and they're going to become a Jeffersonian democracy overnight. | ||
| That was never going to happen. | ||
| And Iraq literally proved that. | ||
| Liberia. | ||
| Here's the problem. | ||
| Here's the problem I see arising. | ||
| Let me just say, no, I agree with you. | ||
| It depends on what to do. | ||
| No, I'm not sure. | ||
| Hold on. | ||
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Hello. | |
| All right. | ||
| So here's the problem that I did say you could go. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, so, so here's the problem that's arising. | ||
| And this, this argument, the argument that you're posing right now, I do agree with that. | ||
| The settlers that came here, white, Protestant, the whole thing. | ||
| I get that. | ||
| I understand it. | ||
| But what I'm hearing, and I'm on the border, right? | ||
| And it's multi-diverse. | ||
| It's very, it's a Mexican culture. | ||
| What they're pissed off about is they feel like you came in and took their land. | ||
| I'm just going to tell you what their argument is. | ||
| We were here first. | ||
| That's what they're fighting for. | ||
| You're mad at Texas, not us. | ||
| Texas, yeah, and California, whatever. | ||
| But listen, they feel. | ||
| But hold on, but they feel consequences. | ||
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Right. | |
| And I agree with that. | ||
| But their argument is we were here first. | ||
| You're not kicking us out, motherfucker. | ||
| We were here first. | ||
| And they are fucking adamant about it, bro. | ||
| Spain? | ||
| They're going to go down with the fight. | ||
| I'm going to tell you what I was making the other night. | ||
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Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. | |
| Who's we? | ||
| These are Mexican. | ||
| Who's we are Mexican-Americans? | ||
| They're also Indian, right? | ||
| They're indigenous to Mexican. | ||
| What I'm saying is, but what you're saying is. | ||
| And I'm not saying I agree with it. | ||
| I understand their argument. | ||
| I'm not saying I agree with them. | ||
| I'm not sure what I'm saying, though, is that their ethnic identity almost trumps their American identity. | ||
| Well, they should be 100%. | ||
| Most of them need to be legal, right? | ||
| I'm not for illegals being here, but I'm just saying what they're saying, what they argue is we were here first. | ||
| We're from this land. | ||
| We are Apache. | ||
| We are Cherokee. | ||
| You know, whatever Indian tribe, because that's what Mexicans really are. | ||
| I mean, people aren't typically deporting Indians. | ||
| Well, what do you think Mexicanos are, man? | ||
| The Spanish and the Indian got together. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
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I hear what you say. | |
| I agree with you. | ||
| So, you know, that's what they are. | ||
| But, but they're Indians. | ||
| I mean, that's the Indian is Mexicans. | ||
| The person speaking Spanish are speaking language from Spain, but they're brown. | ||
| They're Indians. | ||
| They're indigenous to this country. | ||
| So what I'm saying is that the way they feel, the argument I hear, just the same as I'm hearing your argument right now, and I'm sure all of you can understand this. | ||
| They feel that they are from here. | ||
| This is their land, and that's what they're going to fight for. | ||
| But then I think this is coming. | ||
| I think this is coming. | ||
| Is that you have people who take that identity, which is so strong to them because they're basing it on history, just like what I said, and they are willing to fight for it versus typically. | ||
| Yeah, I think the problem is that the average American doesn't think that way. | ||
| The average American thinks, well, anyone can become an American as long as you believe in American American. | ||
| And it's just, it's going to come into that clash. | ||
| Just to answer his question, it's going to come into clash with people who have the older way of thinking. | ||
| If that argument, that argument is valid. | ||
| If they're talking about their property and not just we belong to the land, we don't do blood and soil here, right? | ||
| That's the argument. | ||
| That's the argument that I'm making is we're not a blood and soil. | ||
| Like, it's not about blood and soil. | ||
| The argument that if you're talking about the natives and this is the same thing. | ||
| And I'm saying this is our argument. | ||
| That's their argument, not mine. | ||
| But the point that I'm making is if they're going to make that argument, that's a blood and soil argument. | ||
| That's the same, like that is, that is, we have to. | ||
| They're willing to fight for that. | ||
| I mean, look, they already lost. | ||
| They are actually losing. | ||
| Are they losing now? | ||
| They will. | ||
| If they want to fight about it. | ||
| Doesn't look like it. | ||
| Are they losing now? | ||
| Well, I would say, no, I mean, I think they're losing. | ||
| I think, I mean, you know, look at ICE, look at everything that's happening. | ||
| I mean, there's no more protests. | ||
| There's no more riots. | ||
| When you're hunkering down and hiding, you're not winning. | ||
| You're not winning. | ||
| I'd say, I don't know. | ||
| I'd say remember the Alamo. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like the point that I'm making, if they own property and they're like, you're not kicking me out of my property, that's fine. | ||
| That's one argument. | ||
| That's an American argument. | ||
| When you're making an argument, this is my land because my people. | ||
| I'm just saying we have to. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| That doesn't fly in America. | ||
| That's un-American. | ||
| Just like what he said, you know, the Mayflower, the Protestants, the whites coming here, you feel like that's what makes you more American, correct? | ||
| I think, no, I don't feel like he's true. | ||
| Okay, but also, but what about the Mexicans and Indians that were here before them that are American? | ||
| In that part of America. | ||
| Yes, that's part of that. | ||
| They're also part of American culture. | ||
| If they were there, but like the vast majority of Hispanic Americans migrated to the country post. | ||
| Well, no, a lot of them were fighting the settlers, no doubt about it. | ||
| Yeah, and you're talking about specific pockets and communities. | ||
| There was a lot of Indians that joined the whites and fought against, you know, they were fighting each other before the whites went. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| These are all different parts of the story, right? | ||
| There's a lot of parts of the story. | ||
| Parts make America, right? | ||
| And it has come that way. | ||
| And so what I'm saying is, is that the specific, the idea that we go back to the Constitution and we argue these things out, and it's why I'm so particular about the words of the Constitution. | ||
| It's why I get so upset when Marxists add words to the Constitution that were never there. | ||
| But at the same time, it's the understanding that that was written for a specific group of people in a specific time and place. | ||
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I was the only asshole with the headphones on, so I took him down. | |
| And we do, well, we do need to take callers. | ||
| And so, you know, and this, and again, this is why the Constitution was given a mechanism to expand as the country has expanded or adapt. | ||
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Let's talk to, I told Manic Mustache that I talked to them first. | |
| My boy. | ||
| What's up, Matic Mustache? | ||
| How you doing? | ||
| Hello, everybody. | ||
| It's your favorite mustache, Yodo Taku. | ||
| I just had a, I'm going to actually change my name to the migrant mustache because it feels like every time I call in, it's about creation. | ||
| Awesome. | ||
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What'd you take? | |
| What'd you say? | ||
| Do you have a take on this or do you have another question? | ||
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I mean, if you really want me to, if I could take a small bite, which is that my family was ran from this country years ago, went back to Mexico, came back and bought the land that was taken from my family. | |
| So that's the way it's supposed to be done, but that's a whole nother conversation. | ||
| Property. | ||
| Property rights. | ||
| Property. | ||
| Yeah, I served in the Navy with a guy who had a remarkably similar story. | ||
| The way he would put it was, you know, we didn't cross the border. | ||
| The border crossed us. | ||
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And those are towns from the 70s that they all that was the mantra of Mecha. | |
| And then after the UFW came in and kind of tore that all to pieces, then you have a divided Chicano, Tejano, and you know, wet back culture. | ||
| True. | ||
| Mojavo. | ||
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Okay, my question is actually: after the recent tragedies in Florida and Phil's recent disparaging remarks against the truck driving industry, when is the government going to be held responsible for giving these basically incompetent people licenses? | |
| Because Phil's talking about destroying the company as someone who owns a company, if I hire somebody and I'm told that he has the credentials, and then the government who is supposed to protect me from these robber barons isn't doing their job. | ||
| So why aren't we hearing about the government officials and the agencies that should be held accountable? | ||
| I'm not red on this. | ||
| Phil, you going after the truckers, man? | ||
| Yeah, so if so, because the trucker that killed those three people in Florida, my argument is a migrant trucker. | ||
| That's not all truckers. | ||
| It's a migrant. | ||
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He said that trucking is not a job. | |
| He said truckers' lives matter. | ||
| No, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. | ||
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If you're talking about the new fist, the new fist. | |
| Take the fist down. | ||
| The point that I'm making is if you are an immigrant, right? | ||
| A migrant, and you kill someone because of negligence, like that guy did, the government should go after the guy that owns the business that contracted the trucker because he didn't make sure he hired the migrant because he hired the migrant. | ||
| And I think that the government should take his trucks and auction those trucks off to his competition because he violated the law. | ||
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So what if the guy is not personal in good faith thinking that, hey, he has all their credentials? | |
| So go ahead, jump in the truck, big dog. | ||
| Well, I mean, look, so I understand your point, and it's a point well taken. | ||
| And I do think that the federal government should do something about states like California. | ||
| So your point is well taken. | ||
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When is that going to happen? | |
| But I don't know when that's going to happen. | ||
| I'm not in the administration, man. | ||
| I'm just a guy that's talking to you. | ||
| But the point is, right? | ||
| Like the government should go after the people that are actually committing the crimes and their employers. | ||
| If you employ a person, and honestly, in this context, it doesn't work that way because the guy couldn't read English, right? | ||
| So like, okay, fine, like he's got the paperwork, but you can figure out that he can't speak English well. | ||
| And if he can't speak English, can he read it? | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Let's actually, yeah. | ||
| So you're, so you're, you know, you, you have, you say you have a company, you have employees. | ||
| When, when, when employees come to you, if they're, if they're on a visa, you know, what sort of things do you look for when you're hiring somebody? | ||
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Well, I mean, if you're yeah, you look for all the required paperwork. | |
| You take your paperwork. | ||
| We have a, we have a payroll company. | ||
| So you have like, if they are an immigrant that's here on a visa, for example, you take that, you submit that to our payroll company. | ||
| They say, hey, everything checks out. | ||
| They're good to go. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Welcome aboard, Jose. | ||
| Or even I've got a Vincent, all right? | ||
| This dude's from Ukraine. | ||
| And I know you guys love the blondes and the Slavs and whatnot. | ||
| So I kept going on for you guys. | ||
| No, they got to go too. | ||
| I am married to one. | ||
| Not a Vincent, though. | ||
| I don't care where they're from. | ||
| They just got to go if they're not available. | ||
| Well, let me ask you this. | ||
| So let's get into the liability question then. | ||
| Do you think, or have you ever heard of anyone who's been in a situation like this where they did start, where the government did start looking at the employer because of something one of their truckers did? | ||
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I don't, like I said, I'm not into the truck industry anymore. | |
| But in my industry, yeah, you have a lot of companies that are actually dumping these guys who they're going back to their payroll and going, oh, this guy, he's worked here before. | ||
| Sorry, guy, you got to kick rocks because you've had two social security numbers before. | ||
| So if anything, it's helping these, it's helping guys like us be competitive with the big guys because now they have to actually hire, you know, people that are of this country because like a little guy like me, I have to make sure that every time, like if a guy gets deported and I find out he gets deported because his, you know, paperwork weren't right and then he comes back with a different, you know, paperwork. | ||
| Well, it's like, bro, I can't hire you. | ||
| You know that. | ||
| Like, I know you're not Jose this time. | ||
| Your name is Rodrigo, my guy. | ||
| Right, but you still have to have, you have to carry insurance, liability insurance for your truckers, right? |
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