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phil labonte
Donald Trump is working on a meeting with Vladimir Putin and Vladimir Zelensky.
Now, a lot of people say that that was impossible, but I mean, if there's anyone that can do it, it's probably Trump.
So we'll talk about that.
MSNBC NBC is changing their name.
I don't think they're going to change their platform at all.
So I don't think that anyone is going to be in.
They're not going to get any kind of new viewers or anything like that.
So we'll discuss that a little bit.
The Trump administration is looking to end mail-in ballots.
Now, this is something that I can definitely get behind personally.
I would love to see same-day paper ballots.
It's something that happens in a whole bunch of countries around the world, and it doesn't need to have, they don't need to have all these delay and stuff like that.
Florida has their information about who won, usually a couple hours after polls close.
And Florida's actually offered to help any other state get to a system like that if they want.
So we'll discuss that.
And Cali, California, is giving a legal aliens CDL license, and it is having a terrible, terrible repercussion.
So we'll talk about that.
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But joining us tonight to talk about this and so much else, Zeke Arkham.
zeek arkham
What's up?
unidentified
What's up?
zeek arkham
Thanks for having me again, man.
This is a great opportunity.
Yeah, I'm actually looking forward to, if you invite me back here one more time, I'm going to have my own coffee brand up there, the sexual dog chocolate roast up there.
So I'm looking forward to it.
phil labonte
I think that's a good enough reason to invite him back alone.
shane cashman
Definitely.
phil labonte
Never mind his LE experience and all that stuff just to get another kind of coffee.
Thank you so much for joining us.
Raymond is here.
raymond g stanley-jr
Hey guys, what's up, Bremen J. Stanley Jr., your resident blue-collar devil dog.
I'm looking forward to some especially dark chocolate coffee because I like the mocha, bro.
The mocha's good stuff.
You know what I mean?
But I'm happy to be here today.
Chris Carr is here.
chris karr
What's up, everybody?
I'm Chris Carr.
I'm a writer, editor, and journalist.
I think you pitched that the last time you were here to Tim.
zeek arkham
Did I?
chris karr
I think you did.
zeek arkham
I might have.
chris karr
Yeah, I don't know why I didn't catch on because it's such a brilliant.
zeek arkham
My face on it, you know, show me doing the double points.
I'll do it.
chris karr
I love it.
That's great.
phil labonte
Chris, when was the last time you were on?
chris karr
About eight or nine months ago with Natalie Winters.
It's been a while.
raymond g stanley-jr
I know.
chris karr
It's been a while.
It's good to be back.
Thanks, man.
phil labonte
Shane is here.
shane cashman
Well, it's good to be on with all you guys.
Good to be here.
I am Shane Cashman, host of Inverta World Live.
I'll be running out of here around 9.40 tonight to go live at 10 o'clock on YouTube and Rumble at Inverta World Live.
We will talk about Elon's latest baby mama that's a pregnant robot in China.
And it's all the rage right now.
And we're going to talk about zombie squirrels and some updates on dogs that have been finding human bones with an owner who got deported by ice.
It's a big, crazy story.
So we'll see you there.
chris karr
Just real quick, if you're not turning into Invertive World Live, like what are you doing with yourself?
shane cashman
We'll talk about it.
zeek arkham
Zombie Squirrels by itself, right?
shane cashman
Yeah, last week we had zombie rabbits in Colorado.
Now we have zombie squirrels.
zeek arkham
Nice.
shane cashman
We're in for it, dude.
raymond g stanley-jr
Is this AI getting millions of dollars per month from Mealing for the Baby?
shane cashman
Maybe, yeah.
raymond g stanley-jr
You know what I mean?
phil labonte
One of the best things about Inverted World is they let just anyone call in.
So it's not like you have to be a member or anything.
shane cashman
They're just like, they let me host.
Anything goes.
phil labonte
That's a very wise move.
But the stories that you get from some people, man, some people call in and they just want to hear themselves talk, but some of the stories you get, man.
shane cashman
Yeah.
Yeah.
I should say that too.
We're a call-in show.
You can call in.
Phone lines are open.
You had a weird experience.
You give us a call and it's amazing.
Awesome, Phil.
raymond g stanley-jr
All right.
phil labonte
So from the post-millennial, Breaking Trump working to set up a meeting between Putin and Zielinski after a call with Russian president.
So everyone knows that, or most people know, that Donald Trump and President Putin met in Alaska this past weekend.
I think it was Friday, right?
Friday or Saturday?
unidentified
Friday.
phil labonte
So they met and things were fairly uneventful.
There's a lot of people that are critical because Donald Trump didn't, you know, arm bar Putin and tell him, get out of Ukraine, you meanie or whatever.
It was never actually an option.
You're not going to get a situation.
Not going to get a peace situation in Ukraine without involving the Ukrainian president.
So, this is actually a great development.
So, from the post-millennial, following an afternoon of meeting with Ukraine President Vlodymir Zelensky and other European leaders, President Donald Trump announced that he has called Russian President Vladimir Putin to begin scheduling a meeting between Putin and Zelensky.
This comes as Trump has been seeking a path to peace between the two nations.
I had a very good meeting with distinguished guests, President Vladimir Zelensky says, of Ukraine, President Emmanuel Macron of France, President Alexander Stubb of Finland, Prime Minister Giorgio Maloney of Italy, Prime Minister Kirstamer of the United Kingdom, Chancellor of the Federal Republic of Germany, Friedrich Murz, President of the European Commission, Ursula von der Leyden, and Secretary General of NATO, Mark Rutt, in the White House, which ended in a further meeting in the Oval Office, Trump wrote on Truth Social.
During the meeting, we discussed security guarantees for Ukraine, which guarantees would be provided by the various European countries with a coordination with the United States of America.
Everyone is very happy about the possibility of peace for Russia-Ukraine.
At the conclusion of the meetings, I called President Putin and began the arrangements for a meeting at a location to be determined between the President Putin and President Zelensky.
After that meeting takes place, we'll have a tri-lat, which would be two presidents plus myself.
Again, this is a very good early step for a war that has been going on for almost four years.
Vice President J.D. Vance, Secretary of State Marco Rubio, and Special Envoy Steve Witkoff are coordinating with Russia and Ukraine.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
That's my favorite Trumpism of the second term.
I don't think that he said thank you for attention to this matter during the first Trump administration.
And I think this is definitely an upgrade.
But what do you guys think?
Do you think that this is actually going to produce something, or do you think that Putin is just stringing them along?
Because honestly, I don't see how Putin is in a position where he has to do anything, right?
Like he's kind of holding all the cards, in my opinion.
So what do you think, Zeke?
zeek arkham
I think it's a great first step.
But I mean, Trump is at least doing something.
You know, it's not like, you know, before Biden, you know, Biden just seemed confused the entire time.
Biden just seemed like he just wanted the war to go on.
He was going to throw more money at it and throw more money at Zelensky.
And Zelensky was going to, you know, just be like, you know, hey, Grand Pie, can I have a dollar so I can go down and get some ice cream?
And Biden's like, hey, go ahead, take, you know, starts talking about like bears and his uncle being eaten by cannibals.
You know, so at least Trump is out there actually trying to broker peace.
And it's way more than we've gotten over the past four years.
And if Trump can actually make this happen, there's nothing the left can say about him anymore.
You know, they can't say, you know, he came in there and he's this warmonger president.
And look at what he's doing.
And he's, they can't say anything about him anymore now because Trump took this awful mess that's been going on in Russia and Ukraine for the past four years and did something about it.
So he's actually doing something, whether it comes to fruition or not, whether it comes to peace or not, at least he got in there and gave it a try.
And if it fails, at least he can't say, well, I sat on my hands for the past four years and did nothing.
shane cashman
You know it's serious when Zelensky put on a suit.
zeek arkham
Yeah.
raymond g stanley-jr
He looked kind of good too.
shane cashman
He did.
raymond g stanley-jr
Like black chocolate.
shane cashman
Yeah, he even got a joke in and he made the journalists laugh.
chris karr
Oh, he did.
shane cashman
Yeah, the journalist who criticized him for not wearing a suit last time said he looked good this time.
And then Zelensky said, You were in the same suit.
And I was like, oh, it's not bad.
I don't like Zelensky, but I was like, not bad.
unidentified
Yeah.
raymond g stanley-jr
Got a laugh.
Putin does have all the cards.
They have the strongest army over in that area.
We don't want to get involved and we're not going to try to get involved.
So it's either they can, they have all the cards.
Like we were telling last time, Trump told Zelensky, we have the cards, so he doesn't have the cards, which he doesn't have the cards, and we don't even have the cards anymore as the United States of America.
Putin and Russians have all the cards, and he's willing to grind out 20,000 people a month, 20,000 deaths.
He's just willing to grind and put his people through the grinder to keep doing what he wants to do.
And he'll keep doing it until they say, till Putin or Zelensky says, no, I'm done killing my people because he's going to run out of people sooner or later.
And if he doesn't run out of people, I mean, when he does run out of people, the Europeans aren't going to go inside.
They're not going to help out.
It's going to have to be America.
And we will not, I don't think we're going to let Trump do that.
We'll put us boots on the ground.
I don't see that happening.
phil labonte
Chris, they were talking about the possibility of Article 5-like guarantees.
Now, they're not going to have Ukraine join NATO.
And I think that's a smart move.
I think that's good for the whole world.
And you're right.
I don't think that the rules of NATO actually prevent it because there's an ongoing conflict.
But if the Europeans and the United States offer protections that are Article 5-like, which means if Putin makes any more advances into Ukraine, that would mobilize a lot of NATO countries.
Do you think that that is compelling enough to get Zelensky to try to convince the Ukrainians that they need to make concessions?
Now, I know that Ukraine has a stipulation in their constitution that they won't give up any more territory, but I'm not sure how important that is or how real that is considering they gave up Crimea.
Now, I don't know when that stipulation was put into their constitution.
I don't know if it was prior to the invasion of Crimea or not.
But do you think that that's enough of a guarantee to get Zelensky to move?
chris karr
It should be, but I'm not certain that it will be because, I mean, for years now, Zelensky's basically been having a hostage negotiation with reality.
And I think that he's unhinged enough and demented enough to not understand that he has to take this deal, no matter what happens.
phil labonte
Do you think he's just trying to save his own neck?
Because there's a lot of people that think that if Putin does actually win, that Zelensky's a dead man.
chris karr
Well, yeah, what are his own people going to do to him?
Like, he's looking at a really bad situation when this is over.
When it's finally over, like, I don't know.
He needs to get to an island somewhere.
shane cashman
He'll come here.
chris karr
You think so?
shane cashman
Yeah.
He'll probably get like Bethesda.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
shane cashman
He'll be a politician here.
No, he'll get like a CAA deal like Biden did after office, you know?
phil labonte
Florida.
shane cashman
He'll be a comedian.
He'll be our next Ben Stiller.
phil labonte
Oh, God.
He's going to be being kind of serious on the keyboard.
shane cashman
I am being kind of serious.
phil labonte
Actually, I mean...
chris karr
Yeah, I could see that happening, actually.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, look, if it were a situation where the United States government has to pay for him or he gets a late-night gig, give him late-night gig.
I don't have to throw him.
shane cashman
Yeah, he could take over Colbert.
phil labonte
Yeah, that would be great.
So the post-millennial went on addressing reporters after Zelensky arrived at the White House on Monday afternoon.
Trump said that he was going to have a phone call with Putin right after these meetings today.
Trump met with Putin in Anchorage last on Friday, where Trump said the two leaders agreed on many things, but not on others.
Now, there was some stuff that I saw on X that when this was going on, Putin was making another push, and there were some offensives going on in Ukraine at the very same time that these meetings were happening.
It's my sense that Putin doesn't actually want to play ball.
And I don't know, I don't think that he has any reason to.
Like, the Russians don't look at losses the way that Western countries do, right?
Like, they take a lot of pride in how many people died fighting the Nazis.
Like, they use that as a, as, you know, this is why Russia actually was the winners because we died a lot.
And I think that's kind of crazy personally.
You're the winners when the other guys die a lot.
But they consistently say, well, look, you know, we were willing to put our butts on the line and so many Russians died fighting the Nazis.
raymond g stanley-jr
Very nationalist.
phil labonte
Pardon me?
raymond g stanley-jr
Very nationalist, which is.
phil labonte
Well, nationalists, but also like very, they don't value human life the way that we do in the West, right?
Like Americans, like as much as we, you know, valorize people that are willing to lay down their lives for others and for the cause and stuff, we don't think it's good when people die.
And it seems like Russia kind of does.
So if that is kind of the case in Russia, what's the motivation to not keep sending dudes into the meat grinder?
Because they're going to have more people than the Ukrainians, you know?
raymond g stanley-jr
And they're an all-out military industrial right now.
Like, it's all war-centered.
The whole economy is...
phil labonte
I don't think they've activated their entire military capability.
raymond g stanley-jr
No, but what I'm hearing from a lot of reports from news folks is like they're doing a lot of making munitions.
unidentified
Okay.
raymond g stanley-jr
And they're like, it's war economy.
unidentified
Okay.
raymond g stanley-jr
So they're in it to win it.
And they'll keep grinding out people and they're going to keep grinding out rockets.
To answer your question, 2016 is when Crimea, or is when Ukraine said they're going to stop giving their lands after they lost post-Crimea.
Yes.
Two years after June 28th, 1996.
And they're like, okay, we lost Crimea, so we're going to try not to lose anything else.
Little did they know, Biden took presidency and they're going to lose more.
phil labonte
Yeah, I think.
Yeah, I don't see, I don't see, I don't see them giving back any of the territory that they've taken.
And I don't see any reason why they, I mean, not that I'm pro-Russia, but I don't see any reason why they should.
There has to be some kind of, when you're dealing with, you know, international anarchy, which is what you've got with the way that most countries deal with each other, especially when it comes to a war, there's not a whole lot of reason, there's not a whole lot of reason for Russia to do it.
zeek arkham
I think they're both in a position where they don't want to be the one that blinks.
Like, you know, Ukraine has invested so much and they've gotten so much back in return.
And Zelensky now is like this international figure.
So he can't back down because then it makes it look like he's punking out a little bit.
And of course, Putin is like, you know, no, I'm not backing down for anything.
We are Russia.
I am Putin.
And we are going to see this through to the end.
So I think for Trump, in order to make any real headway with this, he's going to have to make both sides think they've won somehow, which is a horrible, impossible task almost.
But he's going to have to do it or else it's going to turn into a huge mess and it's going to become an even bigger mess than it was before.
raymond g stanley-jr
How can you make Ukraine feel like they won anything when they're going to probably end up losing their land?
Maybe because they might win because they stopped killing everyone and they might have some men left alive to build up their country that they've already lost.
I mean, I don't mean to be a Debbie Downer, but I think you agree that they're not going to get their, there's a really small chance to get their land back.
shane cashman
They're definitely not getting it back.
phil labonte
that point if the if the russians are allowed to stay in the areas that they've they've occupied they're going to build up and even if they don't well yeah yeah Yeah, Russia's going to, Russia's going to build up their forces.
And I think that, you know, Russia does have the desire to take all of Ukraine.
I don't think that they have the desire to go into Poland.
I don't think they're looking to take back Western or Eastern European countries.
They might be looking to take back some of their former Soviet satellite countries, some of the countries that used to be Soviet republics.
But some of those countries have joined NATO, and I don't think that they would actually move on the NATO countries at least.
But I do think they want to take back Ukraine.
I think that it'll just end up being just a staging, and it'll be, you know, they'll wait until there's another president that they think can be pushed over the same way that either Obama or Biden was.
And when they feel like they have the ability, I think that they'll just move on the rest or another part of Ukraine or the rest of Ukraine, however you want to call it.
zeek arkham
Well, remember, China's also watching this as well.
phil labonte
Yeah.
zeek arkham
Seeing what they're going to do about Hong Kong.
You know, they're kind of playing red light, green light right now, like trying to see like how the United States and the rest of the world is going to react to the you know, what's what I'm sorry, Taiwan, Taiwan, excuse me, Taiwan, my fault.
They're they're looking at this and they're trying to figure out what they're going to do now.
So, you know, the response from the rest of the world and the reaction from the rest of the world is going to really determine what China does with Taiwan.
shane cashman
It seems like we're anticipating that to happen because Trump announced a thing with Intel, right?
Did you see that story the other day?
No, they might nationalize Intel to make chips here.
Oh, Intel the company, yes, Intel the company, yeah, sorry, uh, because of you know, they have we get so many chips from Taiwan, and if they are invaded, then there goes so many of our chips.
So it seems like we're our administration is expecting that.
zeek arkham
Well, it's the worst-kept secret.
You know, China's looking at Taiwan and salivating, and they're already picking their spots.
You know, oh, we're gonna occupy over there, we're gonna do this.
So, I mean, it's the world's worst-kept secret, so you gotta plan for it.
raymond g stanley-jr
I mean, already belt have already built islands so they can stage up on that.
Exactly.
phil labonte
So, it's my sense that there's a different you know, it's a different situation with China and Taiwan because the U.S. has a vested interest in Taiwan.
The U.S. doesn't actually have an interest in Ukraine, right?
shane cashman
Like Hunter Biden did.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, but and there were some biolabs, but that's not something, even if they're even if even if the bio labs were like real and something that the U.S. was using, it wasn't obvious and it wasn't a big deal.
It's something they can do.
The chips are a big part of the economy because yeah, without the chips that Taiwan produces, the military doesn't have the ability to function.
I don't know exactly what the amount was, but I heard a general talking about the number of magnets, rare earth magnets that are in an F-35.
It's like a boatload, like a lot of magnets.
And those they get from, I don't know if they get them from China or not, but the point I'm making is there's a lot of reason for the U.S. to actually try to defend Taiwan.
Whereas, you know, honestly, what we're doing in Ukraine is just because the world kind of expects us to, because we're the charity with our tax dollars.
Yeah.
zeek arkham
I think it's more you had the Bidens who were heavily invested in Ukraine.
shane cashman
Big time.
zeek arkham
So they were more looking out for their own interests and then sort of gaslighted the rest of the United States and said, oh, no, no, we have to protect them because look at Russia.
You know, Russia are evil.
But yeah, I agree with you saying, Phil.
You know, Taiwan is more of a interest of all Americans that we could all get involved in and say, hey, listen, yeah, no, you can't, you can't invade them.
That directly affects us rather than Ukraine, which was like, you know, Biden went, oh, hell no, we got to, we got to protect them.
phil labonte
And to your point, Shane, like, I don't think that it's a good idea to nationalize a company.
shane cashman
Same.
phil labonte
But I do think that if the United States wants to say we're going to, you know, start a company or start a national, put a national effort, something like the Manhattan Project, to reindustrialize at least the chips that we need for, you know, for national defense.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
I think that's a good idea.
shane cashman
I'm opposed to nationalizing companies for sure.
And Intel is an inferior chip maker, but they like it because they make them here.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, so would you be against the government working on a project that was similar to the Manhattan Project in order to produce chips and stuff?
I don't want them to get jobs.
shane cashman
Yeah, I don't trust them to do anything properly, so I trust them to do nothing.
phil labonte
Wait, so are you for that?
Would you be for that?
shane cashman
I'm against them nationalizing.
phil labonte
Yeah, but would you be okay with the government working with existing companies to do something like the Manhattan Project in order to do it?
shane cashman
No, because I'm against it now because that's what Stargate is too, with AI.
It's all those companies putting in a lot of money, AI and Oracle, to do something alongside the government.
And I don't trust that as well as I think that's ushering in a dystopia.
raymond g stanley-jr
Real quick on your rare earth magnets, China produces 90% of the world supply.
phil labonte
So China has how many pounds of magnets are in an F-35?
raymond g stanley-jr
Let me check that out.
But I'll probably have a great question.
phil labonte
Moat load?
Very remote load.
shane cashman
There's truckloads.
raymond g stanley-jr
But also, if Ukraine became Russia tomorrow, it wouldn't affect us at all.
But if Taiwan lost to China, it would affect us a lot.
phil labonte
Yeah.
So we've got this breaking information here, breaking news.
There is a coal freighter that just exploded in Baltimore Harbor from the post-millennial.
Flames were seen erupting from a ship in Baltimore Harbor on Monday evening per WMAR2.
The Baltimore County Fire Department confirmed an explosion occurred on a coal tanker near the site of the Francis Scott Key Bridge, which still has not been rebuilt and that was collapsed in 2024.
The Coast Guard has reported the en route to inspect the scene.
unidentified
Yeah, so we got, I've got the video I haven't watched yet, but I assume it will be, I guess it's graphic warning if you want to say so.
phil labonte
Probably, I mean, it's graphic because it's just an explosion.
unidentified
I don't know if anyone died or anything.
shane cashman
But yeah.
unidentified
It just happened like literally a minute ago, right by the collapse of the 8 o'clock, I think it was.
raymond g stanley-jr
Wait, are they going underneath the bridge or are they look like they're going to run into it?
phil labonte
No, they're going to buy it.
unidentified
Okay.
Yeah, it looks like right between at the same time.
But again, in between where there's no more bridge.
The bridge still isn't fixed, by the way.
raymond g stanley-jr
Good job, Baltimore.
phil labonte
Unreal.
raymond g stanley-jr
Nobody can read there.
They got lots of money for school.
phil labonte
Palisades are still burnt out.
raymond g stanley-jr
Malibu is still burnt out.
shane cashman
East Palestine is not looking so hot.
raymond g stanley-jr
And Malibu, too, from like four or five years ago.
phil labonte
Can't do anything.
raymond g stanley-jr
Camp love.
phil labonte
Anything done.
United States.
raymond g stanley-jr
North Carolina.
Don't forget about them.
phil labonte
It's a shame.
Yeah.
zeek arkham
I feel like in the United States right now, I'll check engine lights on.
Oh, you've got to like, you've been doing it for a while.
shane cashman
Yeah.
phil labonte
Our check engines' engine light is on, and it's a woman that's actually in the driver's seat.
Come on, ladies, you know, it's true.
raymond g stanley-jr
And she's an Asian lady if we're going to go crazy.
zeek arkham
They're trying to parallel park.
That's the point.
unidentified
Hey, she's hitting the curb every time.
zeek arkham
My 155 is going to be so pissed at that.
phil labonte
All right.
So we're going to jump to the next story here.
MSNBC from the New York Times.
Goodbye, MSNBC.
Hello, MS Now.
The cable news network is changing its name this year because a corporate spin-off is separating MSNBC from its cousin, NBC News.
For three decades, news and progressive opinion on the cable dial has been defined by five capital letters, MSNBC.
By the end of this year, a couple of those letters are changing.
That's not actually true because right after 9-11, I watched MSNBC all the time.
And Joe Scarborough was still a conservative.
He was still a Republican.
He had a nighttime show.
Dan Abrams had a nighttime show.
They had a fairly, they had some variety in their opinions.
And then when Morning Joe started, when they first got on air, for the first probably five years, Joe was still a conservative.
This is probably before he started banging Mika, to be honest with you.
shane cashman
His handler.
phil labonte
Yeah, that's what happened.
Oh, see, I am.
She started saying, no, no, you can't have these opinions, Joe.
If you want to actually.
zeek arkham
It was that good?
unidentified
Okay.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, her father was Big Nep Brzezinski, you know, the guy that was from the Council on Foreign Relations.
shane cashman
One that helped fund Pol Pot.
phil labonte
Oh, did he?
shane cashman
Through Carter.
phil labonte
Oh, God.
Garbage.
Garbage people.
But yeah.
So, anyways, as part of a corporate spin-off from Comcast, MSNBC is changing its name to MySource News Opinion World, or MS Now for short.
The name is meant to reflect the channel's mission to provide breaking news and best-in-class opinion journalism.
Rebecca Cutler said, MSNBC president said in a memo to employees on Monday, I want to acknowledge that for many years, you who have spent years or decades here, it's hard to imagine the network by any other name, Ms. Cutler said.
This was not a decision that was made quickly or without significant debate.
Most of the cable channels that were part of Comcast NBC Universal TV Empire are being spun out this year into a new company called VeriSant.
The spin-off will require the new company to stop using the NBC brand and its signature Peacock, which are both staying with Comcast, said Mark Lazarus, chief executive of VeriSant.
This gives us the opportunity to chart our own path forward, create distinct brand identities, and establish an independent news organization following the spin, Mr. Lazarus said in a memo to employees.
CNBC will retain its initials, which stand for Consumer News and Business Channel, but will be accompanied by a new logo without the peacock when the separation is complete, which is expected by the end of the year.
Adam Miller, the chief operating officer at NBC Universal, said in a memo to employees on Monday that the change would help avoid confusion between viewers of NBC News and MSNBC as the two channels cover the same news events.
Since the split was announced a few months ago, MSNBC has gone on a hiring spree, adding at least three dozen journalists as the organization prepares to separate itself from the sizable news gathering prowess of NBC News, its longtime corporate cousin.
This is not going to substantially change what MSN, what is it, MS Now is, right?
This is going to be the same progressive drivel.
It's going to be the same, you know, same company that's been getting terrible ratings for the past five years at least.
I mean, the Democrat Party is in, has been in free fall forever when it comes to, you know, brand, brand or the brand or whatever.
So I don't see how this is going to is anything more than what they have to do because of the spin-off.
This is not going to help their ratings or anything.
I mean, what's your sense, Chris?
chris karr
Oh, absolutely not.
No, I mean, I feel like I'm listening to like a news release from 20 years ago.
Like, this is like a kind of a rare insight into the perverted mind of corporate culture.
It's all about mergers and divergence and branding.
Oh, the branding, the branding.
It's really pathetic, and it's not going to impact their ratings at all, especially not positively, I don't think.
raymond g stanley-jr
And NBC has slowly but surely, we've all noticed, I'm sure, turned into even worse than MSNBC with their lies and their whole progressive format.
So it's like they said, MSNBC and NBC are basically the same news station.
So they're going to get rid of one and keep the one that has more of a longevity name.
You know, NBC's been around forever compared to MSNBC.
shane cashman
Do you think at one point they had MSNWO?
And someone was actually like, we can't do the mask off.
Not yet.
chris karr
But at least that makes a little bit of sense.
Like it's a cool name.
What does this one stand for?
shane cashman
News Opinion.
raymond g stanley-jr
And world.
unidentified
Yeah.
raymond g stanley-jr
News opinion.
shane cashman
Doesn't sound words.
chris karr
It sounds horrible.
shane cashman
NWO sounds better, but they couldn't.
raymond g stanley-jr
MS Now.
shane cashman
Yeah.
It sounds like Democracy Now, which is another.
chris karr
That's in line with the branding.
Yeah, that's what they're going to do.
shane cashman
Exactly.
raymond g stanley-jr
Dude, and they're getting rid of the golf channel and E and Oxygen and USA Network.
Not E. Remember USA Network?
You said decent shows back in the once upon time.
chris karr
Used to.
zeek arkham
I mean, but all they're really doing is slapping their fresh coated paint on the same title project.
You know, it's like, you know, this is still the channel of people like Joy Reed.
You know, this is still, I mean, they fired her, but her imprint's still there.
No, this is still the channel where, you know, it's basically just turned into a propaganda wing of the Democrat Party.
People are not going to turn in and watch it now when it's just, you know, Trump is bad 24 hours a day.
This is why, like, I don't know anyone who watches the view.
You know, when you turn into just Trump is bad, Trump is bad, but the majority of the country voted for him, and more people are leaning towards the right now because the left has gone so crazy.
It's the same thing.
And if you're all you're doing when you rebrand it is now just saying, okay, we're going to make it look a little different, but it's going to be the same thing.
And they might get a slight bump for like the first day or two or maybe the first week, but it's not going to last past that.
raymond g stanley-jr
Aren't they very racist too?
Like MSNBC was as they're more or less progressive.
They're more racist progressive.
phil labonte
They're steeped in critical race.
raymond g stanley-jr
There we go.
phil labonte
Theory and critical race theory makes people racist.
Yeah.
I mean, if your focus is race, if that's the first aspect that you see when you see another person is it's just, well, they're race.
So I make all these assumptions that go along with it.
That's, I mean, that's boilerplate racism.
And yes, they're full of incredibly racist people.
If that, you know, unless you ascribe to their definition of racism, which is just the definition that makes it okay for them to be racist, is essentially.
zeek arkham
Listen, I get called a racist almost every day against black people, which I'm like, listen, please, no one tell my family.
They're going to be pissed.
But I mean, don't they still have Al Shopton who does commentary?
phil labonte
Yep.
raymond g stanley-jr
Is he still there?
phil labonte
If I understand correctly.
zeek arkham
So, I mean, you know, he's about down to about 115 pounds now and about 50 pounds that is in his head because that weighs it.
shane cashman
He doesn't look right.
Yeah.
zeek arkham
But I mean, like I said, all they're doing is slapping fresh colour paint.
It's not going to do anything for them.
And they're going to keep continuing to spiral down until they actually change their content and actually do something different.
phil labonte
Do you think that the progressives in the U.S., and when I say the progressives, I mean people that share their opinions, do you think that they would move on their opinions?
Because I really do think the actual thought leaders on the left, right?
So the people that aren't just regurgitating what they've heard in school or regurgitating what they've heard on the news, the people that are actually thinking about these ideas and trying to come up with what actually does progressive mean and stuff.
Do you think that those people are going to change in response to the solid rejection that the country's kind of decided to give them?
Or do you think that they're going to just try and repackage?
zeek arkham
I think they're going to dig their heels in and say, no, you're all wrong.
I'm right.
Because that's what's happening in all these liberal capitals.
You look at what's happening in California.
You look at what's happening in New York City.
Look at what's happening.
Like, you know, Jasmine Crockett, of all people, you know, how many times can you be told you're wrong or proven wrong or even your own party rejects you and now and you're still like, but I'm right, but I'm going to keep doing this, but I'm right.
I'm right.
So I think they're just going to dig their heels in, say, I'm right, I'm correct, and watch everything crumble around them and then try to figure out why it's gotten this bad.
Like, I mean, I spoke to someone the other day, and he, I showed him the graph that Elon Musk put up one time where he said, you know, I'm right here.
And it used to be this is where like the middle was.
And then the middle kept going further and further and further to the right.
And the left kept going further and further out and more extreme.
And he said, well, no, you have to change yourself now to be more towards the middle.
And I said, you know, well, why do you have to change what you believe in in order to appease the middle?
You know, if you, if you are who you are and your beliefs have never changed, and now you're seen as a right-wing extremist because you have beliefs that 20 years ago were considered more towards the middle, why should you change?
And he goes, no, but that's, but you have to change.
So this is where these people are.
It's a warped way of thinking.
It doesn't make sense to anyone who just thinks logically, but this is what the left has become.
raymond g stanley-jr
Sounds like you have to appease the group.
zeek arkham
You have to appease the group.
raymond g stanley-jr
If you don't appease the group, then you're bad, the near right-wing.
If you don't follow them down their trail of lemmings off the cliff, then you're definitely going to be, you know, they're right-wing.
zeek arkham
You have to continue to appease the group.
So if someone comes to you and says, well, my pronouns are they, them, now you have to, you can't just say, oh, I was talking, I was talking to him earlier.
You have to say, oh, I was talking to them earlier.
And normal, rational people are going, okay, them who?
Like, I only see one person, oh, no, he's, he's non-binary.
But this is what this is what you have to be.
Or if you, if you're a furry and you believe that you truly believe in your heart, oh, I'm a cat.
You know, you have, okay, well, you know, I'll put the litter box out for you.
No one look as he's pooping in the litter box as we're all trying to eat.
You know, it turns into one of those things.
raymond g stanley-jr
And that's why we call them a cult, right, brother?
shane cashman
Yeah, they are a cult.
Corporate won't allow them to change their minds, even if they probably feel differently inside.
Because you see, like independent leftists, someone like an Anna Kasparian has been able to say things against the monolith that gets her in trouble with her base, but she feels comfortable doing that because she believes that in her heart, she's seen in LA the crime and how it's changed, you know, and how things like defund the police was a bad decision.
But I don't think they can go out and say we've changed our minds on a corporate platform like this.
If they do, that would be shocking.
phil labonte
So it's your sense that when you say corporate, do you mean that the major direction of the left is from corporations?
shane cashman
A lot of it, yeah.
I mean like corporate outlets, like an NBC, like a Microsoft, like those places that are funded with have the big pharma commercials, ad breaks, and stuff like that.
phil labonte
So you don't, so you don't think that because it's my sense that most of the direction of the left is really coming from people like, or it comes from basically academia, right?
So people like Bellhooks, people like, I'm not sure who's actually active nowadays, but it was like your postmodernists, your leftists, your Foucaults, your, you know, and those kind of thinkers.
So is it your sense that they don't shape the opinions of the left?
Or is it your opinion that people in corporate America hear that and they say, this is what we should do because that's what they believe?
Or do you think that it's this is what we should do because this is what we think people will purchase?
shane cashman
It's the latter.
Corporate America bends the knee to fear.
They are dictated by what the people, what they think the people will riot over.
But I think the left is fractured.
So it's hard to say one group is inspiring the left over another, just like the right is fractured.
You see MAGA types and you see Lindsey Graham types.
It's hard to see who exactly, there's not one thing influencing them all.
But the left is more of a monolith.
I do believe that.
But watching people like Only Young Turks have conversations with people on the right, I don't think you'll see that, at least in a long format context out of a MS now, or especially on the view where it's all just sound bites and they want to attack you.
Whereas more independent-minded people who might still have, who definitely still hold leftist beliefs, they're willing to talk it out.
phil labonte
Well, Kasparian in particular, like, and I think she's hilarious, but her in particular, like, she literally had an interaction with reality.
Yeah.
Her ideology bumped into reality and she was forced to change what she thought because she started saying, wait a minute, this isn't, it's not true.
I mean, there's a clip that's pretty famous of her talking about some murders that were happening on Long Island.
And she was, when she heard the story, she's like, this is, this can't be true.
And then she goes, it's true, guys.
It was real.
It's real.
And she's like, I was just going to blow it off.
But then because the left really can't be trusted.
And so people that have trusted the left for a long time.
And Rittenhouse is another perfect example.
There are tons of people on the left that would swear up and down that Rittenhouse was there to kill black people and he did kill black people.
It's like, bro, he killed two white guys that attacked him.
And they would swear up and down that, no, that's not what happened.
Even to the point where if you show them evidence, they kind of still don't believe it.
I think that Chenka is actually one of those guys.
Like he saw it and he's still like, well, he was still, he was wrong for going there, et cetera, et cetera.
shane cashman
They're allergic to it.
I do also want to say someone like Anna is rare on the left.
Like I think a lot of them will sacrifice themselves into danger, you know, if it conflicts with their worldview.
Like during the George Floyd riots, like I was living right near Newburgh in New York and there were people who were having their windows smashed.
It was crazy rioting.
And the next day they put up boards on their storefront windows saying, we forgive you.
They don't care about their own personal safety, at least not outwardly.
So they are willing to sacrifice themselves for their ideology.
And that seems to be more prevalent than someone like Anna Kasparian who's willing to confront reality and publicly say, I've changed my mind.
zeek arkham
Wasn't there a study done once where they said that for you to give up your belief, like it's actually painful.
It's physically painful to yourself, like for you to admit that you're wrong.
So for someone that thinks that Kyle Rittenhouse, I'm sorry?
No, no.
So for someone like Kyle Rittenhouse, where they were like, you know, oh, this is white supremacy.
I think my wife's cousin put up like a post on Facebook after the whole thing happened where he was not guilty.
And she goes, this is white supremacy at play right here.
And it was like, okay, this is a white guy who shot three other white people.
How is this?
In the grandest definition of self-defense there could be.
Please explain to me how this is white supremacy.
And she was like, well, it just is.
You got me.
shane cashman
You could show some of these people the footage and they'd still walk away with that belief that they initially held.
You could show them the very fine people on both sides, full context.
You show them Rittenhouse, all these different things.
And they still have a hard time changing.
We had someone on the show this year.
We were talking, I forget what it was.
This is Very Fine People.
And she couldn't even still wrap her head around it.
And Snopes had already, Snopes of all places said it was fake.
phil labonte
One of my friends, a good buddy of mine that I've been friends with for years and years, he's pretty left.
And when it comes to the Donald Trump Very Fine People thing, I'm like, look, man, you know, look, look.
And he's like, well, he was still there.
There were Nazis there.
So I'm like, bro, he specifically said no.
And like when it came to like that whole thing, like the Nazis were not openly Nazis before the actual thing.
Like they were kind of keeping it on the down low.
But yeah, just was just like, look, man, he was there and Nazis were there.
So it doesn't matter.
chris karr
The problem is that these people, they need to have genuine character.
And in order to have genuine character, you have to admit that you were lied to, that you believe the lie without thinking about it critically, and you promulgated it.
And most people don't have the character to actually fus up to that kind of thing.
It doesn't matter if you prove it to them or not.
They're just not going to go for it.
unidentified
Yeah.
zeek arkham
Well, look at the whole party switch argument from the left.
Like, I keep asking, do you really believe that Republicans got together with Democrats and just kind of went, okay, like, we're going to reverse this, right?
Okay, cool.
You know, somebody just threw out the Uno reverse card and said, okay, from now on, this is how we're going to do this.
It's been disproven over and over again, but they still hold on to that.
Like, I get in arguments almost every other day with someone who's like, well, the party switched.
You know, even though the KKK was started out as the enforcement wing of the Democrat Party, the party switched.
When?
And who switched?
And then they're like, well, you know, just Google it.
No, no, you Google it.
You said it.
So who was it?
shane cashman
It's not going to give you the answer anyway.
But they can, these days you can go up and get any online and get anything to confirm your bias.
So we know what we know is to be true.
We believe in objective truth.
I think most of us in this room, but they think they believe in objective truth and they go to something like Google and they can just find whatever website they can find to confirm that bias.
And then that's the gospel to them.
And that's it.
raymond g stanley-jr
And there's no such thing as a Nazi in today's world.
Like that's bluntly false.
There might be neo-Nazis, but like Germany from the 1930s and 40s is done.
shane cashman
It's sounds like Raymond's not listening to Inverto World Live.
We have the Fourth Reich on Mars right now and below Antarctica.
chris karr
That was a wild episode.
phil labonte
And Hitler's alive.
And Hitler's alive saying shocked that he did not have a heart attack on the show.
Sweating.
Bro, you know he was doing lines.
shane cashman
I had this dude call in who says he's from the Fourth Reich, and the Fourth Reich is cool with Jews now, and they have a base beneath Antarctica.
I don't want to get this show out of control, but they are alive, so I'll get you there.
zeek arkham
If there's ever a reason now to visit Antarctica, I've got to see this.
shane cashman
You've got to get special permission from Trump first.
Can't go there.
phil labonte
Well, you've got to go in the winter here because it's summertime down there.
raymond g stanley-jr
Are there Dark Side of the Moon Nazi bases still?
Like old ones?
shane cashman
Do you really want to go down there?
raymond g stanley-jr
No, no, I don't.
shane cashman
I think they're below the moon, but the Chinese are on the dark side of the moon.
phil labonte
When you get done, call.
I'll call in.
I'll call in.
shane cashman
I'll hook you up.
raymond g stanley-jr
I'll call in on our after show here.
shane cashman
Awesome.
phil labonte
There you go.
All right, so we're going to jump to this story.
From U.S. News, Trump vows to end use of mail-in ballots ahead of 2026 midterm election.
From Reuters, U.S. President Donald Trump pledged on Monday to issue an executive order to end the use of mail-in ballots and voting machines ahead of the 2026 midterm elections, a move likely to disproportionately favor his Republican Party.
Federal elections are administered at the state level, however, and it is unclear if the president has the constitutional power to enact the measure.
Legal changes by some states are likely.
I'm sorry, legal challenges by some states are likely.
With Democrat voters traditionally more likely to use mail-in ballots than Republicans, Trump's pledge is his last effort to reshape the midterm election battlefield to his party's advantage.
He has also urged Republicans in states, including Texas and Indiana, to redraw congressional districts to increase the likelihood of a Republican candidate being elected.
Yes.
The November 23rd, I'm sorry, November 3rd, 2026 elections will be the first nationwide referendums on Trump's domestic and foreign policy since he returned to power in January.
Democrats will be seeking to break Republicans'grip on both the House of Representatives and the Senate to block Trump's domestic agenda.
I mean, they say to block Trump's domestic agenda, but really, it's to try to impeach Trump.
Like, they want to get the House so that way they can just...
have two years of attempts at impeaching him And the way that this, you know, this piece is written is clearly to be critical of Republicans.
Look, it's likely that if the, actually, I have a very firm take on this.
If the economy is not good next year at this time, it doesn't matter what policies the Republicans have or I've talked about.
The Republicans will lose the House.
If the economy is good, then the Republicans can keep the House.
That's not a guarantee.
That's just saying that if they have the right people and they do the right things, if they're running the right candidates, they're doing the right things.
The people that are running for reelection are actually doing the things they need to do to make sure that they win.
Then again, they can win.
But it's all going to come down to the economy.
And, you know, the last bit of economic information that I saw was inflation kind of ticked up in the past month.
This will not be good for Republicans if inflation is still running kind of hot next year at this time because inflation, like prices aren't going to come down.
Inflation that happens, like it doesn't, it's not like the inflation happens and then prices go up and then they come down again.
Like that inflation is sticky as hell.
So this is, I think this is a good idea.
I think the Republicans should do these kind of things because I think that anytime the Republicans can legally do, can take any kind of political measures to give themselves an advantage, I think they should.
Democrats will given the chance.
Newsom is talking about, oh, well, if they redistrict in Texas, then we're going to redistrict in California.
That doesn't matter because if it turns into a redistricting fight, the Republicans have all the cards.
There will be a handful of new seats that Democrats could win.
But even still, it's not a guarantee, but there's a handful of seats that Democrats could.
And then Republicans, I think, would have something like 10.
There was a tweet that I saw that I'll actually bring up in a second.
But back to mail-in ballots.
I mean, this is the smart play, right?
This is the way to make sure that there aren't people doing funky things after the polls have closed or things are actually counted properly.
I mean, what is your sense?
zeek arkham
I mean, I remember being a kid and elections were figured out on the night of election night.
When did we get away from that?
Why is it now that, you know, okay, election day was Tuesday.
We're not going to know who actually won until two weeks from today.
Like, when did this start happening?
I thought technology made things better and streamlined things to make things better.
phil labonte
The first time that I noticed it was, I think, 2020, right?
Or was it, because in 2016, we knew that Trump won, you know, by midnight or something.
shane cashman
Could have the hanging Chads.
phil labonte
The hanging Chads, but the Hanging Chads are different than waiting to count, right?
The Hanging Chads were like, that was honestly, that was Democrats saying, well, these are on, these, these aren't, we're not sure who they were voting for because there's a hanging Chad, et cetera.
But I thought that they were the, and it was Democrats trying to do recounts.
I was, I was under the impression, or the way that I remember it, it was all about Democrats saying, wait, wait, it's close, so let's recount them.
And generally, every time they do a recount, the side that's trying to do the recount and wants to get more votes, miraculously, they find more votes.
shane cashman
Yeah, the hanging Chads.
zeek arkham
You weren't supposed to notice that.
shane cashman
Seriously, though, they want you to deny it.
Like, I think of the Hanging Chads in terms of the Carrie Lake trial she had for her ballots because it was sort of similar in terms of what was an invalid ballot.
And they had no chain of custody for entire pallets of these ballots.
And they actually printed out the wrong size ballot, you know, and they couldn't feed it into the machine properly.
It was totally bogus.
And the court was totally stacked against her.
And there were people that were caught lying on the stand.
Didn't matter.
It was insane, you know?
So I think this is great.
I think I remember Malin Ballots only being, I mean, I'm sure this isn't the case, but as a kid, I remember them being mostly for soldiers who were overseas or something, you know?
Yeah, which seems, I'm okay with that.
But now it's the thing to do and also dead people.
And I'd like to stop that.
raymond g stanley-jr
I wonder if it's because folks are getting just a random thought that folks are getting old, like their base for Democrats are getting really old.
They get the boomers.
They can't get into their cars.
They can't drive.
And that's why they harvest as well.
Go around from place to place in the cities.
I'm like, yo, old person here, go ahead and vote for Democrats so we can get more people on it.
And where maybe younger folks might not be voting as much.
But also, end of day, if we can use the power to keep America strong and safe and secure, freaking use it, Trump.
Let's go.
phil labonte
I mean, remember, when Democrats are saying things like, you know, our democracy, they don't actually mean democracy because if they did, they wouldn't be looking to expand the court.
I'm sorry, yeah, expand the court and pack, you know, pack the court.
And then they want to add states so that way they have the likelihood of more senators.
shane cashman
Lower the voting age.
phil labonte
Lower the voting age and get rid of the Electoral College.
All of these things are because they don't like the actual way that things go.
Hey, Sir, can you bring that up so people can see?
This is from Chris Eliza, who is no Republican or friend of conservatives.
The states that were draw their maps, you get some in Oregon, California, Illinois, and Maryland.
But look at this.
This is a massive amount of possibility for the Republicans.
So if this does turn into a fight between Democrats and Republicans redistricting, I mean, the Republicans have a lot more possible votes to get or seats to get as opposed to Democrats.
So even though Gavin Newsom's news or whatever, his social media team is out there doing the best they can the past couple of days.
And actually, in my opinion, they've got a couple funny tweets, but that's all they are is just funny tweets.
They're out there doing the best they can.
The reality of the situation is they're in a bad position to even try to talk about this argument, right?
If this is their, if they actually do want to get into a redistricting fight, Republicans seem like they're, again, holding all the cards.
zeek arkham
Have you ever actually looked at Illinois' map as far as their representative?
It's crazy.
It looks like a kid drew what they could on the map and you've got like, it's a mess.
So if they actually redistrict their map in Illinois, it's going to turn into Democrats fighting Democrats.
Same thing with California.
It's going to turn into Democrats fighting Democrats over their seats.
So the red states definitely have more to gain from any kind of redistrict kind of fight that they're going to go for.
But as far as what Gavin Newsom's trying to do in retaliation to what Texas is doing, he's going to lose 10 times out of 10.
So if he wants to pick that fight and he wants to pick that battle and he wants to bring Illinois with him, he wants to bring Pritzker with him.
They're going to lose.
And I think ultimately the Democrat Party is looking at them like, don't do this.
We're going to lose this fight.
Don't do this.
Please don't.
phil labonte
So the past couple of days, it's kind of seemed like Gavin Newsom has moved.
And granted, we're a long way away from any election, right?
And it's clear that Gavin Newsome wants to be the president.
But in the past couple of days, it's really looked like he's kind of taken initiative and put himself in a position to be considered the face of the Democrat Party and really out there working it hard.
Do you guys have the sense that he could possibly be the nominee?
And how does someone like Gavin Newsom take on someone like AOC if she decides that she wants to run?
Both of them have significant political chops, and AOC is very savvy.
Who wins the primary for the Democrats if it's AOC versus Gavin Newsom versus Pritzker versus, I don't know who else?
zeek arkham
I don't think AOC has got a shot.
I don't think AOC has got a shot.
Anyone with common sense, two working brain cells, looks at AOC and is like, no.
I don't think she's.
I think she'll appeal to the younger crowd.
But I mean, listen, if they put her in a debate with a possible JD Vance, with a possible Marco Rubio, she will get destroyed.
She'll get destroyed worse than Kamala Harris did.
phil labonte
But this is primaries that we're talking about.
So maybe if she does go, I think you're right about that.
zeek arkham
So let's say.
Let's pretend she beats Gavin Newsome, which I don't think is going to happen, but she'll get destroyed.
I think the Democrat Party knows that.
I think Gavin Newsom is their best shot.
And I think he knows he's their best shot.
So that's why he's been going on the podcast.
That's why he's been trying to put his name more out there.
phil labonte
Have you seen the picture going around on X of Gavin Newsom and his family?
Oh, absolutely.
They are just as white, blonde, blue-eyed.
How does that family win the Democrat nomination?
Because you know people that are looking to win are going to use the fact that he's a white guy and it's a white family.
Because if that was a Republican, it'd be like, they're Nazis.
Clearly.
Look, they're blonde.
They're blue-eyed.
Of course they're Nazis.
That was the same argument that people were making about the Sidney Sweeney.
So how does he beat that?
zeek arkham
See, if I'm Jasmine Crockett, this is my time to shine.
phil labonte
She's his VP?
zeek arkham
Yeah, listen.
I'd be calling Gavin like, hey, listen, Gavin, you're going to need a sister girl out there.
shane cashman
You need a Kamala.
zeek arkham
Yeah, you need a Kamala.
You need a sister girl.
So listen, I'm your best shot.
Who else do the Democrats have?
shane cashman
Not Ilhan.
zeek arkham
Not Ilhan, because I don't think she can be VP.
shane cashman
Yeah, hopefully, no, she can't.
zeek arkham
She can't.
phil labonte
She's born in America.
shane cashman
You can't marry your brother and be VP.
zeek arkham
But I mean, listen, if I'm Jasmine.
Or you know what?
Maybe this is where AOC comes in.
shane cashman
Yeah.
You could see that.
I could see that.
I think Gavin Newsom announced his presidency, his run for presidency when he announced his podcast.
Like it was a slow rebranding into him being this national figure.
I mean, I was at the primary debate at the Reagan Library for the Republicans.
Trump wasn't there.
It was all these, you know, Vivek, I forget Nikki Haley, all those people.
And Newsom showed up at the library and he took over.
His presence dominated.
All the Fox News guys, Sean Hannity, that's all they wanted to talk to.
And he's charming, like a devil.
You know, he is super charming.
But he dominated.
The other guys, they didn't even do many interviews.
Some of them just walked away afterwards, the Republicans, but he took over the whole thing.
And to see him work like that, it's insane.
It's infuriating because he tricks people.
I even see a lot of Republicans there who are fawning over him because they think he's this handsome guy.
So it's like, but he looks like American Psycho to me.
Yes.
And I don't, there's no amount of rebranding he can do that will ever make me forget what he did during COVID.
And the same goes for any of these leftists.
phil labonte
I mean, to be fair, I do think that you're fairly anomalous, though.
shane cashman
Yeah.
phil labonte
Like, I don't think that, I think that the average kind of person that would meet Gavin Newsom isn't going to be as critical as you would be.
Like, I mean, I've been, I spent most people who fled California.
Well, that's not, that's in the grand scheme of things, that's not a lot of people.
And to be honest with you, like, I spent all weekend putting pictures of the sand-filled skate parks underneath everything that Gavin Newsome was doing.
I was just like, all right, if it just came across, I'm like, I'll grab the pictures, just post it.
That's it.
Because he's trying to, he's trying to use the freedom and the free California was one of the things they were talking about.
Come to the free state of California, which is absolutely ridiculous.
Like the idea that California is one of the freest states is just absurd.
But I think that the media team that he's got is really, really savvy.
I think they're smart.
And I think that the things that they're doing will convince people.
And it definitely will fire Democrats up.
I know that the chat's going to hate the fact anytime you say anything like this, that's like any kind of analysis where it's like, look, these are good ideas and they're going to work.
They're just like, oh, you're a shill, you're a moron.
But it's true, right?
Like the same thing with like AOC, like AOC, as much as you can hate her, and I hate her policies.
I would never vote for her.
But you can't deny when she gets on Instagram and she's cooking and she's talking to people, young people are just like, that's my girl.
I love her.
Tons of them.
And to discard, to just blow that aside or to not pay attention to how dangerous that is to Republicans and to the country because I think their policies would be terrible for the country.
If you disregard how dangerous that is, that's the same thing that people did about Donald Trump.
They ignored all the people that were saying, I like Donald Trump.
I mean, Hillary Clinton had a 95 or 98% chance on election night.
And it was clear to a handful of people Donald Trump's going to win.
And they laughed.
They laughed at him.
So the idea that we can just ignore these people and just say, oh, they're stupid.
Oh, they're stupid because we disagree with them.
That is an error.
That's an error that will cost the American people significantly.
shane cashman
Despite Newsom being charming, I think it's inauthentic.
And Trump, I think, is better at being authentic, despite him making people really uncomfortable sometimes on the left, of course.
But I don't think Newsom is able to carry that inauthenticity on a national platform.
And I just disagree.
I think a lot of people aren't going to forget how bad he governed California, not just during COVID, but afterwards.
I mean, it was super dystopian.
A lot of people did leave.
He also has a long track record in California between being mayor, these controversies, and all this stuff.
I don't know if people are going to forget that so easily.
phil labonte
So one of the things that we...
Go ahead, please.
zeek arkham
No, I'll just, I'll say this.
I hate to disagree with you.
unidentified
Yeah.
zeek arkham
But American voters have a very short memory.
shane cashman
Yeah.
zeek arkham
You know, like I listened, like, I listened to Gavin Newsome on a podcast.
And if I didn't know any better, he comes across as a normal, level-headed kind of guy.
You don't think about how he shut down California.
You don't think about how he told everybody in California to lock down, but then he was caught at the French laundry.
You know, you don't think about all the policies he did, how he kicked all the homeless people out of California or out of LA real quick so that Chairman Mao could come and hang out and drive through the streets and make it look like California is this pristine place.
And then on the podcast, he's like, yeah, you know, that was, I just, I own up to it and it was wrong with me to do so.
And, you know, so he comes across as like a level-headed kind of guy.
And the American voter has a very short memory.
I mean, thankfully, they didn't fall into it with Hillary Clinton.
Hillary Clinton is like, you know, the devil spawn herself.
But for Gavin Newsom, and especially, like you said, if the economy doesn't shape back up, if Trump doesn't deliver on a lot of stuff he was doing, if J.D. Vance takes a tumble somewhere, we might be looking at it.
shane cashman
How do you feel in terms of that in New York with Cuomo running for mayor?
Because that's all I left New York because of Cuomo, you know, for a lot of reasons, but Cuomo being one of the main reasons because he governed a lot like Newsom.
I'd say maybe worse in many ways.
Do you think the people in New York have that short-term memory when it comes to Cuomo?
Are they just going to Mom Dani?
zeek arkham
I think if you look at New York, it's just that Mom Dani came out of nowhere and he was this guy.
He got a lot of younger people behind him.
He said all the right things.
I'm going to give you free this and free that and free this.
And for a lot of these kids coming out of college, it's like, hey, that's wonderful.
I'm going to, I'm not going to have to pay for anything.
You know, with Cuomo, I think it was more he dropped the ball as far as he expected to just get the vote.
He expected his name recognition.
Yeah, he felt he was entitled to it.
I think he felt he didn't have to work.
I think Hillary actually fell into the same trap as well.
Hillary just kind of figured that, listen, you're going to vote for me because of who my husband is.
And Barack already gave me the blessing for it.
phil labonte
It's my turn.
zeek arkham
It's my turn, you know, and I'm a woman, so you're going to vote for me.
And then Trump came out of nowhere.
I think Cuomo fell into that same trap.
I don't think Newsom's going to fall into that trap.
Like, he's already going on the podcast.
He's already putting himself out there.
He's already, you know, got his own podcast.
He's already going out there and smiling and shaking hands and talking about other states other than California.
So he's not falling into that trap.
phil labonte
Like, I'm very, very pro-2A.
Like, I'm about as like I'm repealed the Hughes Amendment pro-2A, right?
Like, machine guns should be sold in vending machines.
So when I saw Gavin Newsom go on the Sean Ryan show, I was like, this guy is going to be dangerous because that was very smart.
Obviously, the people that watch Sean Ryan all the time, the people that actually are really pro-2A, they know that Sean gave him a handgun.
He's not going to, he ain't going to carry that.
It's not like he's going to be, you know, down at the range, appendix carry, clearing his shirt.
You know, that's not happening.
But the fact that he went there and he was talking to him, he had a bunch of people that were conservative.
He had Charlie Kirk on his, on his podcast.
I'm talking about Gavin Newsom.
I had Charlie Kirk on his podcast.
These kind of things are going to be able to sway the people that are just a little moderate.
And one of the things that we said a lot before the 2000 or before the last election was there are very few moderates, or there are very few undecided, right?
Like the Democrats are going to vote for whoever the nominee is.
So if it's Newsome, there you go.
They're going to vote for Newsome.
That's baked in.
And there's a small portion of people that you can sway.
And again, I firmly believe that the economy is the actual most important topic all the time, every election.
And if the economy is not doing well in come 2028, you know, the Republicans, whoever the Republican candidate is, is going to have a hard time.
Because how do you distance yourself?
If it is J.D. Vance, how do you distance yourself from Donald Trump?
You know, because Donald Trump will not let you.
If you say, well, you know, that was Trump.
Donald Trump will get on True Social and just shit all over you.
You know, I can imagine it.
So you're not going to be able to distance yourself from Trump.
And if you're going up against someone like Gavin Newsom, who is a chameleon or a lizard, which chameleon's a lizard, right?
shane cashman
Yeah.
phil labonte
I think so.
But yeah, like you go up against that guy who can walk into a place with moderates and they'll be like, look, man, I can get behind this guy.
See, he doesn't hate guns.
Look, didn't you see him on Sean Ryan?
They don't have any idea what California's gun laws are like.
Or they would say, well, you know, they're not his fault.
He was only the governor for a couple years and those California gun laws have been like that.
There's a bunch of excuses that people can come up with.
So the idea that this guy is someone that you can, you know, just blow off.
chris karr
I mean, the thing to remember about Gavin Newsome, having lived in California, is that he is a conniving psychopath.
And I think he's actually a brilliant psychopath.
shane cashman
It's part of the problem.
chris karr
He's a brilliant person.
But here's the thing.
He's a brilliant politician, not in terms of policy or in terms of governing.
Absolutely.
In terms of the rot and filth that makes politics what it is, he loves that stuff.
That is what he, and he knows that he knows that he loves that.
He loves to be in that swamp and in the muck.
And he's really good at it.
shane cashman
So perfect for the White House.
unidentified
Yeah.
chris karr
In many ways he is.
And I'm not joking about that.
Yeah.
Because he knows how to be that politician.
He wants to be at the very top.
shane cashman
And to your guys' points about the short-term memory, J.D. Vance was a never Trumper not that long ago.
And the right forgave him.
I just have a really hard time.
I hold a grudge against politicians.
I can't imagine ever forgiving any of these people, left or right, for what they did during COVID.
And we're still feeling the ramifications for that.
Yeah, I do.
Yeah, I probably want again, though.
Probably done after last time.
zeek arkham
I'll tell you this, though.
Trump showed that the election comes down to the swing states.
You're not going to go after the red states who are going to vote for the Republican.
You're not going to go after the blue states that are just, you know, you might as well just call those states before anything comes in, right?
You're going to have to go for the swing states.
And the more Gavin Newsome, which is what he's doing now, looks like he's in the middle.
Like you talk about the Sean Ryan show.
First thing he said was, oh man, yeah, this is great.
This is great.
Listen, I'm not anti-gun.
I just want common sense stuff.
I just want, and Sean Ryan didn't push back against him.
shane cashman
I saw.
zeek arkham
So he was able to filibuster and he was able to talk and he was able to boost himself up as much as he could.
And the more he talked, which is scary, the more he came across as right in the middle.
He didn't come across as an extreme to either side.
Hey, listen, I'm just a common sense guy.
And this is who my mom was.
And this is, you know, I didn't really know my father growing up.
So now he's appealing to the guys who, you know, maybe came from broken homes, didn't have a lot.
Listen, this guy was a rich kid growing up.
But the way he describes it, he was struggling.
You know, I had a business.
I had to hire my mom.
And we all sat.
So he comes across as very downhome, very, very miller road.
My story's just like yours.
And he comes across as very likable.
shane cashman
Joe Biden.
Listen.
zeek arkham
Listen, yeah, Joe Biden.
Every time you turn around, every time you turn around, yeah, no, I was Catholic, but I was grew up with a bunch of Muslims.
raymond g stanley-jr
Raised in church.
zeek arkham
And Pentecostals were right across the street.
unidentified
We used to eat Chinese food all the time.
zeek arkham
Every time you turn around, he came from someplace.
And Gavin Newsom is doing the same thing, but better.
That's what makes him scary.
raymond g stanley-jr
He won't get as much as the progressives and the radicals want someone, you know, the family, the photo of him and his family.
They're Nazis.
They're never going to get that.
Like, they're going to be more moderates.
And they don't, at the end of the day, they don't care what the color is.
As long as that person is going to feed their policies and ideology into the government.
phil labonte
I agree.
I do think.
Well, I think part of the reason why they had to go with Kamala was because she was a black woman.
raymond g stanley-jr
And they had like four days.
chris karr
That's when the tide started to turn out on this whole like white-black thing in terms of like how that picture would look or be manipulated by other people.
zeek arkham
Also, remember, too, Biden was being painted as a racist.
phil labonte
Yes.
zeek arkham
So he had to go out and get himself the closest thing to a sister girl he could get.
shane cashman
To make up for his friends.
zeek arkham
He was busy.
She says she's black.
You know, she's kind of tan.
You know what?
Let's go for it.
Let's go for it.
You know, Newsom doesn't have that hanging over his head.
unidentified
No.
raymond g stanley-jr
And that's why I go with Rokana, too.
Also, I say Rokana might have a chance because he's more moderate and he has he's very moderate, but he's not like super far left.
Whereas Gavin is super far left and crazy.
Go ahead.
You think they know you want to fight?
phil labonte
Well, no, I'm just wondering, do you guys think that, because what he said, do you think that Newsom is actually super far left, or do you think that he is just a political animal that had been doing the things that were necessary to win in California?
Because it's my sense that I don't know what he truly believes.
I don't know what his actual politics are.
I think that he's just extremely politically savvy, and he's done the things necessary to win in the places that he's been running, which is why he's making a move to the center because he doesn't really believe.
I don't know.
I mean, I don't know what he believes, but he doesn't really believe.
He touched the sacred cow and said, oh, well, you know, it's a bad idea to have trans kids, trans women, you know, men competing against women.
Like that is verboten in the Democrat party, in the progressive wing of the Democrat Party.
But he's moved away from those kind of things because he knows they're unpopular.
So is it, you know, and I'd like to hear from everybody.
shane cashman
Like a chameleon.
phil labonte
He changes his colour.
shane cashman
Yeah, right.
He's straight up.
He isn't.
He is inauthentic, but he's charming at doing it.
So he will be whatever.
He's a vessel for whatever policy he thinks will get him the most political capital.
That's why he's dangerous.
chris karr
It's kind of an old school bygone era way to play politics, which is that, which brings up the Joe Biden comparison.
But he knows how to kind of retrofit that old school style to 2025.
But it's still the same thing.
shane cashman
It's Hillary with the hot sauce, but like a little more charming.
phil labonte
More believable in charge of that.
unidentified
More charming.
chris karr
More believable.
zeek arkham
Yeah.
It's not as in your face with Hillary playing dominoes up in Spanish Harlem.
raymond g stanley-jr
Did she carry hot sauce in her purse, right?
zeek arkham
That's so sauce in her purse.
And I don't think anybody believed that.
shane cashman
No one believed that.
Not even in the room.
zeek arkham
But he is the type.
But that's why I think he's going on these podcasts the way he did.
He actually looked at how Kamala Harris avoided all the podcasts and said, you know what?
That's going to be the first thing I do.
So, you know, so when he's on the podcast, he's not going on Joe Rogan because Joe Rogan will eat him alive.
raymond g stanley-jr
But you think so?
zeek arkham
Oh, absolutely.
shane cashman
He left California.
raymond g stanley-jr
I'd love to see that.
That'd be, yeah.
If he wants to be president, he needs to go on.
zeek arkham
If he goes on Joe Rogan, I'll give him his props.
shane cashman
He will.
I bet you he will.
He's such a narcissist.
raymond g stanley-jr
And he'll be so smooth and like ratty.
shane cashman
He doesn't care about pushback.
phil labonte
He'll do it and he'll wait until the summer before the election.
He won't do it early.
He's going to do it when people, like, he'll do it like July, June or July.
He isn't thinking.
zeek arkham
Because Joe Rogan has already come out and said, I don't like him.
So he's not going to be able to do what he did on Sean Ryan.
Like if you notice, when he went on Sean Ryan, Joe Rogan actually texted Sean a question.
raymond g stanley-jr
Yeah.
zeek arkham
And he did everything but answer the question that Joe Rogan posed to him on Sean Ryan's show.
He talked in circles all the way around that question and then came out on the other side.
chris karr
No, it's brilliant what he does.
You guys see his interview with Steve Bannon?
shane cashman
No.
chris karr
It was great.
So he did that for an hour.
And at the end of the pop, he's like, CC, we're both just populists here.
We're just populists talking.
See, he's a genius.
He's a genius for that kind of reptile figure.
shane cashman
I'm not going to take away from him.
He is a brilliant politician.
That's an evil politician.
raymond g stanley-jr
Like what you guys said, he's a lizard.
He could chameleon.
He's super dangerous.
Therefore, he's dangerous.
phil labonte
Yes, that's my true.
Honestly, my point for kind of directing the conversation this way is I think that there are too many people that don't, that are on the right, that think that we've come into a golden age and Trump and then, of course, it's going to be Vance and the Democrats because they're polling so low, they're never going to win.
And that is a recipe for disaster.
And I've asked, who do you guys think are talented on the Democrat side?
And there are a lot of people like, nobody, they're all dumb, blah, blah, blah.
Because they're all talking with their opinion about what they say or how they feel about those people.
And they're not taking a realistic political view on these people.
And they're not thinking about how dangerous is this person?
How capable is this person to come across to the, again, the very small amount of people that can actually be swayed.
You know, I mean, it's maybe there are 10 million people in America that actually could be swayed, you know, throughout the whole country.
Otherwise, everyone's kind of locked into their teams.
And I think it's really important for conservatives and people on the right to address that and look at that as what it is, which is very dangerous.
Because if someone like Gavin Newsom gets in, the Democrats take, you know, take control of the House and Senate and they get the presidency, you know that they will be arresting conservatives.
They will do all of the stuff that Joe Biden was doing.
They will put all of their bureaucrat friends back into positions of authority.
They will be going after conservatives.
They did it in, they've been doing it since 2012 with the IRS stuff that Lois Lerner was doing it.
They didn't stop.
They continued and it will only get worse.
So it's, in my opinion, it's very important for people on the right to understand that they will be coming after you.
They will be coming after you if you speak up.
They will be coming after you if you don't abide by their rules.
If you don't want your kid to go to a school that is teaching LGBT stuff, they will come to your house and they will take your kid from you and they will treat you like you're a criminal because they'll say you're hateful.
There will be hate speech laws.
There will be, it will be an absolute nightmare.
All the things you see in the UK that will come here.
And if you look at what's going on in the UK, it is an effing nightmare.
They arrest like 3,000 people a year for Facebook posts.
They arrest more people in the UK for Facebook posts than there have been people in Russia arrested for speaking out against Putin.
And Russia is a pure dictatorship.
And if you think that that can't happen here, just look at COVID.
That did happen here, and it will only be worse.
So it's vitally important for people to not think that Republicans are a shoe-in.
It's vitally important for people to understand that should someone like AOC or should someone like Gavin Newsom win, that all that stuff is back on the table.
And it's just like when Biden was president, but it'll be way worse.
raymond g stanley-jr
This whole Newsome talk might have just real quick changed my mind because Rokana, he's moderate and he's authentic.
I feel like he believes what he, I feel like he believes what he believes, and that's not going to get him elected.
Whereas Newsom is a slammer rat lizard and he'll do whatever he says to get himself out of it.
phil labonte
Even if it's Rocana, he'll still appoint the same bureaucrats.
And so to me, as much as the like Newsom is scary because he could get elected and that's the thing that's bad, it doesn't matter which one of them gets elected.
They're still going to appoint the same bureaucrats with the same opinions and they're still going to do the same stuff.
So whether it be Rocana or whether it be AOC or whether it be Newsom or whether it be Jasmine Crockett or whoever, right?
It doesn't matter because it'll be the bureaucrats underneath them.
That will be using the DOJ to go after conservatives.
It'll be the bureaucrats underneath them that will be saying, oh, we need to bolster the Department of Education because of all the stuff that Trump did.
And it'll be a nightmare.
zeek arkham
So what no one's talking about, though, which scares me, which keeps me up at night, no one's talking about the Supreme Court.
phil labonte
Yeah.
zeek arkham
Because we're talking about, okay, we got three and a half years of Trump left, right?
And then we've got potentially, if Gavin Newsom gets into office, another eight years of him.
And how many Supreme Court appointments is he going to have?
That's going to wildly swing our Constitution back the other way.
Because if you have the Supreme Court and you control the Supreme Court, you can override the Bill of Rights.
So Second Amendment is going to be severely restricted federally.
Free speech, the First Amendment, is going to be severely affected federally.
We're talking about everything that's going on with the illegals right now on the border.
Eight years of being able to go after the 14th Amendment is going to be wild.
So, I mean, that's what we're looking at right now with a potential Gavin Newsome presence.
shane cashman
Look how bad the four years of Biden was with the border in particular.
And what you're saying, I totally agree.
People should not be underestimating the left.
I think Trump winning this second term remobilized, re-energized the left, and they're turning into a beast, a bigger beast, you know, that you can't underestimate.
raymond g stanley-jr
Like, we were like, let's go, let's go, America, let's go vote for the Republicans.
Let's vote for Trump.
And now that we're one, we're like, hey, you know, we're not as energized as we would, as we should be.
We should definitely not take our foot off the pedal and keep that going.
phil labonte
All gas, no bricks.
We're going to jump to this story here from the New York Post.
Michigan City Councilman caught on camera stuffing an election dropbox with absentee ballots days before primary.
A Michigan City Council member was caught on camera stuffing an election drop box with apparent absentee ballots just days before he won his re-election bid in a local primary.
Hamtrack City Councilmember Abu Musa was seen in the passenger seat of a car on August 1st, handing stacks of paper to the car's driver, who then dumped them into a nearby ballot box.
Footage obtained by Local 4 appears to show.
Musa held onto his re-election spot in the primary four days later on August 5th, beating out 11 other candidates with 1,129 votes.
But only 286 of those votes were cast on election day, with 843 being cast by absentee ballot, the Daily Mail reported.
Musa would have placed fifth without the absentee ballot, according to the Mail.
Footage of the ballot box dump emerged earlier in August, just a day after two Hamatrack council members were arraigned on election fraud charges over a 2023 investigation.
That investigation was sparked after a city clerk noted absentee ballots were being dropped off in large bundles and filled out with suspiciously similar handwriting.
And while Musa was named in the investigation, he was not charged.
But along with another member of the city council, he is at the center of an investigation into whether he's actually a resident of Hamatrack, something required to hold his city council position.
He has denied these allegations, local for reported.
So, I mean, this is not important on a national level, specifically, but it speaks to the type of thing that you have to worry about when it comes to absentee ballots, and the type of thing you have to worry about when it comes to multiple days of voting.
And that's one of the reasons why I think it's great that Donald Trump is making the executive order that he is.
Now, again, like we were saying earlier, or the piece said earlier, the states do decide how they do their elections, right?
That's constitutional.
But that doesn't mean that the federal government can't say you can do your elections however you want, but they have to be done on this day.
And you can't do absentee ballots.
You can't do early voting.
You can't do late voting, et cetera, et cetera.
The federal government can make some rules.
And I do think that things like when the voting is allowed to start, when the voting is allowed to, you know, must end by, I think those are something that the federal government can rule on.
What do you guys think?
raymond g stanley-jr
I like eight to eight on voting day, eight to eight.
You know, sentiment they absentee ballots, if you're in the military, that's fine.
It's totally fair.
Maybe if you're immobile and you're in Medicaid, you know, if you're older folk, maybe there's exceptions for certain rules.
If you can't get in there, but otherwise, just eight to eight, I'm okay with paper ballots as well.
We don't need anything crazy.
We can do electronics.
I mean, I'm just saying one day, one day get it done in and out.
shane cashman
I'm okay with no electronics.
raymond g stanley-jr
Sure.
shane cashman
Just get rid of them.
I mean, that used to be a bipartisan issue.
I remember Elizabeth Warren complaining about the machines 10 or 15 years ago, you know?
And then when Trump does it, it's a bad thing.
But she had the same issues with the machines that I don't think can be trusted.
zeek arkham
I think it's very telling that the fact that the Democrats really don't care about securing our elections.
phil labonte
Yeah, it's weird.
zeek arkham
They're just like, hey, listen, free-for-all.
Hey, you know what?
You want to put your mom's name on there and your grandmother and your memo and everybody else on it?
unidentified
Go right ahead.
zeek arkham
And you, you, you, how long have you been in the country?
Oh, you're not supposed to be.
unidentified
Go ahead, vote.
shane cashman
You know, we don't need your IDs.
zeek arkham
Yeah, we don't need your ID.
Like, just show up, you know?
So, I mean, the fact that they have no concern about securing the cornerstone of our republic, of our democratic republic, is extremely telling.
And it lets me know what their agenda is.
I mean, when you look at just everything with the illegals that's going on right now, and if the numbers came out that if we were to get rid of every illegal in this country, the Democrats would lose something like 26 seats or something like something like a crazy number.
They know it gives them an advantage.
They know that the weaker the election laws are, the stronger they are.
And it's not about them.
It's not about country.
It's not about securing the countries for them.
It's not about the best possible candidate forward.
To them, it's about staying in power.
So we need to be doing everything we can to fight against that.
unidentified
Amen.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, look, the Democrats have been making, you know, save our democracy their battle cry for ages now.
And all the while, they've been doing everything they can to shore up their power, and none of it has been Democratic.
I mean, whether it be the throwing the leading candidate of your opposition in jail or arresting him and trying to throw him in jail, which it's still possible.
I mean, there's the suspended, whatever the case with that suspended, like Trump could get done with his.
zeek arkham
He brought back a library book late to the library back in 1974.
phil labonte
You know, they're doing everything they can to basically fabricate charges against him.
They've thrown all of his lawyers in jail or they charge them just for being his lawyer.
Like they're like, oh, well, you're part of a conspiracy.
It's like, there is lawyers.
This is something that's guaranteed by the Constitution.
They're not interested in any way in democracy or due process or legitimately acquiring power.
They're just looking to throw their opponents in jail.
chris karr
I mean, the commies.
phil labonte
Yeah.
chris karr
Yeah.
I mean, my opinion is that we live in a crypto communist government.
phil labonte
Yep.
chris karr
You know, and I mean, it's, it's, it's there, but it's hidden.
That's why we were able to have Biden as president for, you know, four years and he's got mashed potatoes for brains.
And still things do escalate and get worse.
It's because of the unelected, you know, 30-year bureaucrats that have basically put themselves in charge of our freedoms.
raymond g stanley-jr
And they're not saving, like you said earlier, and just click them ahead, you know, save our democracy.
Why don't they say save?
I mean, I know why they don't say save the democracy.
Save the, the United, you know what I mean?
I don't want to get into it, but just as clicked, like, those F.
phil labonte
Well, we're going to get into it.
raymond g stanley-jr
You know what I mean?
It's like, save the democracy.
If they really care about saving anything, they should say the, the foundation.
I know we're not democracy, but instead of saying ours, they'd be like, save the, save the country, not save our country.
phil labonte
It was the same thing in communist China, right?
So Mao decided that you had either a red personality or you had a black personality.
If you were a property owner or if you were some kind of capitalist, something, they said that you had a black personality.
And they said that if you were actually a member of the Communist Party, you had a red personality.
And you could do things to go from a black personality to a red personality.
But they would say things like, they, as in the people with the black personality, are after our democracy.
Because according to communists, they would swear up and down that they're a true democracy.
Only the communists are the true democracy.
They do it all the time.
And that was one of the things that Mao said they did in China all the time.
They were like, they're after our democracy, our democracy, but it's not theirs, right?
Those people aren't included in our democracy.
So when the Democrats are saying our democracy, they're not including conservatives.
They're not including people on the right.
They're not including Trump voters.
They're not part of our democracy.
They are excluded from our democracy.
And you can see it in the way that they behave.
The people that are conservatives or right-wing or Trump voters or whatever, they don't get the same protections that people in their democracy do.
They are to be excluded.
And it's something that is, again, typical of just like Chris said, it's typical of communist countries.
There was one other point that I'll come back to that I wanted to, once you said that we live in a crypt, basically a crypto-communist country right now.
But I slipped my mind.
So instead of dwelling on that.
zeek arkham
I'll just say this one last thing.
Remember, like growing up, we used to read about like Latin American countries, you know, like Noriega, where he was like, you know, he threw his opposition in jail.
Oh, he did this.
He did that.
You know, he's being a dictator.
How dare he go?
And then it's like, okay, but you just finished doing the exact same thing.
And they're like, oh, no, but that's different.
You know, that doesn't count.
You know, he actually did something bad.
raymond g stanley-jr
Actually, he did something wrong.
phil labonte
All right, we're going to jump to this story here.
Semi-truck driver arrested after making an illegal U-turn on Florida Highway, killing three people.
Harginder Singh, who authorities say had entered the U.S. illegally, has been charged with three counts of vehicular homicide.
A man has been arrested in Florida after making an illegal U-turn on a highway that resulted in a deadly crash that killed three people.
Harginder Singh, who authorities say has entered the U.S. illegally, has been charged with three counts of vehicular homicide.
According to the Florida Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles, state troopers responded to a crash on Florida's turnpike in St. Lucie County on August 12th.
The collision involved a minivan and a commercial semi-truck and trailer.
Based on initial investigations, the incident occurred after the driver of the commercial semi-truck recklessly and without regard for safety of others attempted to execute a U-turn in an unauthorized location.
The driver of the semi was later identified as Singh, who crossed the Mexican border illegally in 2018 and later obtained a commercial driver's license in California.
As a result of his actions, the three occupants of the minivan are now deceased.
State troopers obtained a criminal arrest warrant for the driver, Hardiar Singh, for three counts of vehicular homicide.
A press release stated, the actions taken by the defendant while operating a commercial tractor trailer are both shocking and criminal, said executive director David Kern.
Three people lost their lives as a result of this recklessness, and countless friends and family members will experience the pain of their loss forever.
Look, this is emblematic of why conservatives and people on the right are so against not just having illegal immigrants, not just having the national language be English, but also making sure that people that are here legally can't get any kind of ID.
Like the state of California did this.
They gave this guy a CDL, which in my, not only did they give him a license, which would be bad enough, but it's a commercial driver's license.
It blows my mind that this guy who's here illegally was able to do this.
And I mean, I've gone over my personal opinions of how we should deal with the illegal aliens in the country multiple times.
But clearly, this is not acceptable.
Three people are dead, and they don't, you know, there's no restart.
You know, they're that's it because this guy not only was empowered by the state of California, but also because he's a moron who can't drive.
raymond g stanley-jr
Yo, CDLs are a big deal.
Like, you just can't get one.
If you go to school, like I, like, I wanted, I tried for it when I was younger.
You have to go to school, you got to get valid driver's license, a clean record, medical pass the thing, you know, go to um air brakes, you know, you got to learn a lot of stuff.
And this is, I don't know, I may go off on a tangent here, but this is why I hate Newsome.
This is why I hate these people like Democrats and Lands Illegals.
And three innocent American civilians, citizens have died because they let this illegal alien come in and get a CDL.
And this driver in the road, and he just killed people.
And they do it a lot.
They do more than they want to talk about.
I couldn't find stats about how many illegals CDL drivers have killed people in general.
But we had a couple of years ago where the one guy go down the one hill and he couldn't, he didn't hit his brakes.
There's lots of stories of folks driving CDLs and just rape and murder and illegals and go off on a tangent and it's just disgusting and we need to stop this.
zeek arkham
I just can't get over how unbothered he was.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
zeek arkham
Over running over three people.
It's like he's playing Grand Theft Auto and he's just, you know, oh well.
And then we just keep going.
He was just completely unbothered.
And if this is the type of person who is coming into the country and that California is giving CDLs to, God knows who else is out there driving around who isn't supposed to be here in the first place, but is transporting cargo.
Like, you know, this guy, like, he didn't even look.
And then the guy in the passenger seat was just like, oh, well, like, he's got his foot up.
raymond g stanley-jr
You know, he's on TikTok right now.
zeek arkham
Yeah, he's, he's this guy.
He's doom scrolling on Instagram right now.
So, you know, it just shows how dangerous a porous open southern border can be to the rest of the country in ways we haven't even thought of.
shane cashman
Will this be used against Newsom when he's running officially?
And will it matter?
raymond g stanley-jr
It'll try to, but nobody will care.
zeek arkham
I don't think it's going to stick.
phil labonte
If this happened in the summer before he got elected, yeah.
raymond g stanley-jr
Yeah, yeah.
phil labonte
Or before the vote, yeah.
But I think this is probably...
I mean, someone might try...
If he does, you know, I imagine some political strategist or whatever would dig it up, but I don't know that it'll have traction.
shane cashman
This will be like a thousand years ago by the time I get there.
raymond g stanley-jr
I don't know why I couldn't find stats on how many illegal CDL drivers have killed people.
They said there's 1,500 people have died in the last year, but they know nothing about FDF, what their status is.
phil labonte
Yeah, look, I mean, personally, I think that, again, the more we can do to make it hard for illegals to stay here, the better.
This company that actually employed him, they need to lose their business.
Whoever owns the business needs to, yeah, oh, yeah, 100%.
Killed three people.
shane cashman
No, I understand.
phil labonte
They should not have employed him.
California shouldn't have given him a license, right?
But these people that employed him, the company, whoever runs the company should go to jail too because he made that, he is responsible for this.
He hired an illegal.
Put him in, try him and put him in jail.
I don't know what, I don't know what the accessory to murder, maybe?
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
You know, I'm not sure what the charge should be, but he should lose his business.
Like, this should be, this company should be used as an example.
Like, put the owner in jail, take away all of his property, auction it off, and make sure that everybody in the country knows that the reason he's in jail as an accessory to murder is because he hired an illegal, right?
Obviously, the driver should go to jail for the rest of his life, right?
I don't care.
People are like, oh, you know, ship him back.
No, put him in jail.
shane cashman
I'll get him to Alcatraz.
phil labonte
Yeah, put him in.
No, I mean, that's only for shipping people out.
Put him in the real Alcatraz.
Yeah.
Put him in a real federal prison, right?
Not some kind of white-collar thing in a real federal prison for the rest of his life.
And they should use these people and this company as an example.
You shouldn't be allowed, it shouldn't be okay to hire people that are illegal.
And one of the things that I agree with Democrats about, and they probably don't actually mean this, but they always say, well, you know, you should go after the companies that hire.
Yeah, you should, 100%.
Absolutely.
And you should make it really brutal if they get caught hiring illegals.
Because the point of that, and the point of that, is to make sure that they don't hire illegals, to make it too risky, to make it not worth hiring illegals.
So that way, illegals can't find jobs.
And so that way illegals leave the country of their own volition.
So you don't have to have ICE going door to door rounding people up.
The more difficult it is for illegals to live in the United States, the harder it is for them to find a place to live.
You should take the property.
If people are renting to them, take their property.
raymond g stanley-jr
I love it.
phil labonte
See it.
You're renting to illegals.
You know they're illegals.
Well, we're taking your house.
raymond g stanley-jr
You're up, Miami.
phil labonte
We're taking your building because you rented to illegals.
You do that kind of stuff and you'll see illegals leaving in droves because I can't find a place to live.
I can't get a job because no one will hire me because I'm terrified because they're terrified the government will take my S. Let them know they're not wanted here.
raymond g stanley-jr
Yeah, unless you come in the freaking right way.
phil labonte
Point is to make it too difficult for them to live here.
So that way ICE doesn't have to go and round people up.
You don't have to see dudes in masks and with body armor grabbing people and throwing them on the ground.
So Karen doesn't get her hair all in a tiff, right?
So that way you just make it too difficult so these people are like, man, it ain't worth it.
I can't find a job.
Nobody will hire me.
You know, you got to go to the U.S. legally if you're going to get a job.
You got to get a green card.
You got to come in legally.
Make it absolutely brutal if people hire them.
Make it absolutely brutal if people rent to them.
And this is the, this is as horrible as it is.
This is the perfect opportunity to make an example of people.
This guy goes to jail for the rest of his life.
The owner of the company goes to jail for a long time, has an accessory to murder.
Take his company.
Take the whole thing.
Auction it off.
There are a bunch of companies that'll buy his trucks.
raymond g stanley-jr
Are you trying to be Secretary Noam's assistant?
phil labonte
I would never work for the government.
unidentified
Okay.
raymond g stanley-jr
Just throwing it out there.
phil labonte
And I will say the N-word on Maine before I work for the government.
raymond g stanley-jr
I lied.
It wasn't 1,500.
It was $5,900 about deaths for big trucks.
So I agree with everything.
It was 2022's last stats.
So it's a lot.
It's a lot.
zeek arkham
I agree with everything you said.
However, California will fight tooth and nail to make sure that this guy's on his own.
They will leave him out there in the cold, but they will fight tooth and nail to make sure that their illegals are protected and loved and taken care of because that's their lifeblood.
raymond g stanley-jr
So and counted in the census.
zeek arkham
And counted in the census and everything else.
phil labonte
Do you think that it's possible that there could be federal charges?
Because I agree totally.
California, there's a lot of states that'd be like, well, we're sanctuary cities.
Sanctuary cities, and you know this better than most people, sanctuary cities just means that the local law enforcement doesn't help the feds.
So do you think that there's any kind of federal, there's any kind of possibility for the feds to pass a law that says you, that federally, you go to federal prison if you, well, because actually ICE should be able to do that, right?
Like if they hire illegals, that could be a federal offense.
So, I mean, because again, like I said, I totally agree with you about the states.
But if you have the feds do the actual prosecution, right?
They get arrested by federal agents.
The FBI picks them up and then they get prosecuted federally by the DOJ.
You can kind of circumvent the states, right?
zeek arkham
I think you run into a Fourth Amendment problem there.
Just because only, like I said, bro, I agree with you 100%.
phil labonte
No, no, I'm not sure.
zeek arkham
I think you run into a problem because now you're how do you how do you determine who's hiring illegals and who isn't?
Besides hanging out outside of a Home Depot and jumping out of the ice truck and then you see them all scatter.
But if you go into a private business and you say, hey, do you have any illegals working here?
Do they have to hire you?
I mean, do they have to answer you?
I don't know.
So I think you run into a potential problem there.
Like with me, I'm a constitutionalist.
So I'm kind of just like, okay, like as much as I want to do something, I don't want to set a bad precedent.
But I mean, I just, I think that California will do everything they can to protect their illegals because that's their lifeblood.
Illinois will do everything they can to protect their illegals.
New York will do everything, at least under Kathy Hochul.
Hopefully, you know, something.
But at least under Kathy Hochul, they'll do everything they can to protect their illegals because that's their lifeblood.
So they'll leave this guy out in the cold.
They will turn into the biggest constitutionalist you've ever met in your life if you go after their illegals.
phil labonte
I think that, I think you're probably right.
But I think that it would be worth trying and bringing to the Supreme Court to find out.
You know, because maybe you do run into some kind of problem, a constitutional issue.
But if they can, if the feds were just, if the DOJ were to decide, well, we're going to push this issue and see if we can get the SCOTUS on our side and get the SCOTUS to rule, that could be a way to do it.
But I think your point is well taken, though.
zeek arkham
I think if ICE wants to start doing investigations, like if the FBI wants to do an undercover op into which businesses are hiring illegals, which FBI, hey, listen, if you need someone who's got undercover sort of experience, I can help you out.
unidentified
Cash Patel.
zeek arkham
Because listen, cash patel, because listen, some of your agents really need help.
I'm just letting you know.
Give me a call.
But if they want to start doing undercover operations or just looking at which businesses might potentially be hiring illegals and do an operation that way, so that they can have, they can go in there and do it legally and say, hey, listen, we've caught 20 illegals in your business.
So now we're going to open an investigation into seeing what your hiring practices are.
That I'm all for.
But to just hang out outside of a business and just sort of pat down anybody who comes in, you're going to run into a problem.
phil labonte
Fair enough.
I think your idea sounds great.
raymond g stanley-jr
The Fourth Amendment says private businesses do not have absolute protection.
Public-facing businesses like a storefront or whatnot, they have very little protection.
But when they have private business records, they have more protection than just the storefront, like accounting records in the office.
So it's all like case by case, apparently.
They're treated.
The courts treat business premises differently depending on the type of business and what is being searched.
And I'm trying to look for people, but I didn't find any people illegals.
zeek arkham
Listen, I would love to, as you said, have illegals be scared to do anything in this country because they're like, listen, I'm illegal.
I don't know what I would love that.
Listen, you come back, you do it the right way.
We'll open the door for you.
But while you're here illegally, listen, you should be afraid to walk down the street.
And I'm all for that.
But I think you run into a problem.
phil labonte
You're probably right.
I hadn't thought about that.
You're probably right.
But, you know, I think the big reason why I want to see this kind of stuff happen is because then you don't have all the protests against, you know, you don't have officers having to put hands on people, having to fight with people, having to deal with protesters.
They'll just leave of their own volition.
You don't have Karen out there screaming and hollering and getting in Ice Agents' face and all of the dangerous things that come with interactions with crazy people in the public and police officers and law enforcement, right?
Because I mean, you know better than anybody else.
When you have to actually deal with people, things can go bad and people get crazy, you know?
Like, yes.
Especially, I feel like especially women because they think that they're like, oh, I can just push this guy around because.
you know, he won't do anything because I'm a woman.
And it's like, well.
So, anyways, I think now we are going to go to super chats, right?
Yeah, we're going to go to super chats.
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But right now, we're going to do some super chats.
raymond g stanley-jr
Big selling point.
zeek arkham
That was a leap right there.
phil labonte
I think it's happened.
People in the Discord get married.
Like three or four couples got married.
Yeah.
And it is a regular occurrence where when people are having a baby, they will super chat and let us know that they just had a baby or they're about to have a baby.
Their wife's in labor.
So we're very pro-baby around.
raymond g stanley-jr
Oh, yeah.
Like every day, usually someone's like, yo, we're about to have a baby right now.
It's pretty awesome.
phil labonte
Pro-family, pro-baby, all that good stuff.
So Shane H. Wilder says, prayers for Tim's recovery.
I'm glad he's taking the time because I know how it is, the power through when you shouldn't.
It sucks when you lose your voice, especially when it's how you make a living.
It does, my buddy.
My friend, it is awful.
We did a tour back in like 2008.
We were doing a tour and my voice went out on me.
It was a great tour.
We were out with Inflames and we did two weeks of the tour and we had like another four left or something like that.
I went to the doctor and the doctor's like, yo, you need to go home and you need, you can't talk for the next six weeks because they're like, if you're, if your vocal cords don't look different when you come back, when you go see another doctor, you're going to have to get a biopsy and make sure you don't have throat cancer.
So it is.
shane cashman
Did you have a fill in or did you still have to fill in for that?
phil labonte
No, they had to go home.
shane cashman
You filled in for a big band one.
phil labonte
I filled in for Kill Switch Engage.
I filled in for Five Finger Death Punch.
shane cashman
Right, right.
phil labonte
That's a Metallica.
shane cashman
Great pictures.
phil labonte
At the same place that Taylor's at the same arena that Taylor Swift played at like a week later, the Metallica show had more people.
shane cashman
How would we not talk about James Comey loving Taylor Swift today?
phil labonte
Look, man, James Comey is terrible, but everybody has one or two redeeming qualities.
raymond g stanley-jr
Wait, liking Taylor Swiss is a redeeming quality.
shane cashman
He likes Taylor Swift.
raymond g stanley-jr
That's right.
shane cashman
Phil's a Swifty.
raymond g stanley-jr
I can't tell.
phil labonte
Look at that.
raymond g stanley-jr
Gentlemen, Phil.
Holy moly.
zeek arkham
I like Taylor Swift.
My door's a Swifty.
And every now and again, I find myself humming something.
I'm like, no, stop.
phil labonte
Those earworms, man, they get you.
zeek arkham
No, stop.
phil labonte
All right.
Ninjetty says, Phil, you are incorrect that Russia wants to take all of Ukraine.
They would need a minimum of 5 million troops in the country.
There's zero chance they can do that.
He said it like when he did the Tucker Carlson interview.
Like, maybe he didn't specifically say it, but he was talking about how Ukraine is actually where Russia comes from, the Kiev and Rus and all.
He went to that big whole history thing.
It may not be realistic, but I do think that it's highly likely that Vladimir Putin would like to if he could.
So you can say that, you know, you can say what you want, but I think that Putin has made it pretty clear that he wants to.
I mean, they drove a convoy.
Like when he first invaded, he drove a convoy to Kiev because they were trying to grab take Kiev and didn't work out so well.
So maybe they can't, right?
Maybe they couldn't do it.
But to say that he doesn't want to, I think that's wrong.
shane cashman
Phil, I'm going to head out.
phil labonte
Oh, yes.
shane cashman
Off to my show.
See you guys later.
That was a really fun show.
Good seeing all you guys.
We'll be live on YouTube and Rumble at 10 o'clock.
I'm going to run there right now.
I'll be out of breath when we start.
But we'll take phone calls till midnight.
It's going to be a fun one.
We're talking about pregnant robots in China and hear from you guys.
So see you all next time.
Have fun later.
chris karr
That's good, man.
Have a great show.
phil labonte
I'll get home and it'll already be on the TV.
All right.
Cool.
All right.
Mac 12 says they are just trying to get away from the MS DNC moniker.
I don't agree, man.
I feel like they're actually.
raymond g stanley-jr
They're failures.
phil labonte
Yeah, but I mean, look, they kind of laid out why they had to make the change in it, you know?
raymond g stanley-jr
So because they're failures.
zeek arkham
It's like I said, slapping the fresh coated paint.
raymond g stanley-jr
Yeah.
zeek arkham
The shed's still crumbling down, but you just got a fresh coated paint on it.
raymond g stanley-jr
It looks pretty, but the inside's rotted.
phil labonte
Philip Helm says, Hey, Phil, I just wanted to give a shout out to you and Tim because y'all finally got off my lazy butt and started my first company at 24, Up and Beyond Toys.
Just wanted to say thank you for motivating me to get after it.
Congratulations.
If you are a member of the Discord or if you're watching right now, go check out Up and Beyond Toys.
I'm assuming you could probably just Google them, Up and Beyond Toys.
But yeah, go ahead and support these fine young men that are starting businesses and grabbing a hold of their destiny.
raymond g stanley-jr
Just real quick on the Up and Beyond Toys thing.
Anime is big nowadays.
It's huge.
I guess apparently I see a news article that one in three people, young'ins, watch anime and they pirate a lot of the anime.
They will pirate it, but then they'll buy products of the anime.
And that's how anime makes their money.
So up and beyond toys, throwing it out there, you know, maybe make some up and beyond anime toys.
You know, hot little chicks with, you know, weak waifus.
zeek arkham
I was getting ready to say, talk about families and making babies, you know, go to a couple of these anime conventions.
raymond g stanley-jr
Oh, yeah.
They make families at the end of me.
zeek arkham
They make families, all right?
Even if it's just for a night, you make families.
raymond g stanley-jr
Even if it's for AI.
phil labonte
Jacob Hawley says, breaking Texas Dems have returned to the Texas House after being forced by party leadership.
They won't flee anymore and will vote on the next house map.
They lost.
How feckless, sad.
Girl, a spine, Dems.
Come on.
What a win for the GOP, though.
I mean, I like the fact that they're going to have to vote on it.
I mean, I would like to see Texas redistrict, and I would like to see more Republicans in Congress.
raymond g stanley-jr
Remember that last Thursday, they already passed it.
Last Thursday, I thought passed the redistricting, even though they didn't come in.
I thought that was the whole, we had a whole conversation.
zeek arkham
They voted on it, they lost, and the Democrats, the Texas Democrats all got up and left in protest.
And I think now it moves to the Texas Senate or something like that.
Now, it moves up another step now, but basically they won.
phil labonte
Yeah, I'm not sure the details on it.
But look, man, I want to see redistricting.
I want to see the Republicans do as much as they can to shut out Democrats as possible.
If it's questionably legal, I'm fine with it.
raymond g stanley-jr
Take the power and run with it, right?
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, look, when the Republican or when the Democrats are in power, they will abuse the law.
So if you ain't cheating, you ain't trying.
raymond g stanley-jr
So that's what my dad taught me.
zeek arkham
And the best news is: Jasmine Boquisha Crockett might lose her seat with all the redistricting districting.
phil labonte
She'll probably move on.
raymond g stanley-jr
Well, what's her middle name again?
zeek arkham
Boquisha.
That's my nickname for her.
Shout out to everybody who follows me on the next one.
unidentified
Okay.
zeek arkham
Jasmine Boquisha.
Fitz.
phil labonte
Hal Gailey says, no need to concede territory.
Putin didn't invade to own land.
He invaded to gain the access owning it gives.
DMZ it.
Russia leaves.
UA allows are you unfettered access through those regions to Crimea?
Well, I mean, excuse me, maybe, but I still think that, you know, I think that Putin actually wants to take Ukraine.
The history is very deep there between Ukraine and Russia.
And I think that Putin looks at Ukraine as part of Russia, even though they have different languages.
I still think Putin's like, eh, you're part of Russia, so we're just going to take it back.
raymond g stanley-jr
Well, if Kiev was the capital forever, like, I would imagine I'd want it back too, if I was him.
phil labonte
The Kievan Rus, I guess, is where Russia came from.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
phil labonte
I don't know.
I'm not extremely informed on Russian Ukrainian history, but I did watch the interview with Putin and that Tucker did.
raymond g stanley-jr
Because he went deep hardcore then.
phil labonte
Yeah.
And he really wanted the opportunity to explain to an American audience.
raymond g stanley-jr
And how dare Tucker, the traitor.
I'm just kidding, but you know what I mean.
phil labonte
Yeah, like the point of him doing that, like going into that history is because he wanted the American English speaking audience to understand whether or not you believe what he says, you know, like whatever, like when it comes to his motivations.
I mean, look, he's going to lie.
He's, you know, he's a KGB guy and nation states lie.
raymond g stanley-jr
Massad to lie.
Probably.
phil labonte
What?
raymond g stanley-jr
Probably massage as well.
phil labonte
I don't think that is what I'm saying.
I'm just saying.
raymond g stanley-jr
Isn't everybody massage?
I mean, you know, that's what I'm hearing online.
I don't know.
phil labonte
McBeefrod said, day one, listener, and I haven't missed one yet.
Oh, awesome.
raymond g stanley-jr
Nice.
phil labonte
I love the show, but recently y'all started putting the clips in the full podcast playlist on YouTube.
This is extremely annoying.
Why the change?
I have no idea.
unidentified
I don't either.
What did he say?
raymond g stanley-jr
The full podcast.
phil labonte
He said that we've been started putting the clips in the full podcast playlist on YouTube.
So the clips are.
raymond g stanley-jr
You just got to go to the lives then, bro.
unidentified
No, no, some of the playlists.
I don't know why that is, but Yo Kellen.
I don't know.
Help him out.
phil labonte
But you have my deepest apologies.
I'm sorry that it's annoying.
raymond g stanley-jr
I'll talk to Blue Sweater.
phil labonte
Oh, God.
He doesn't do that either.
Let's see.
Well, I don't want to say that.
Button.
Button says Newsom is further left than you think and politically savvy.
He runs as center every single time, then implements insane policy, works for moderates and progressives based on messenger.
I mean, look, he's done that, but he's also in California, or he's been, you know, he's been in California.
How he would govern on a national level, I don't know.
Because like I said, I don't think that he's particularly ideological.
zeek arkham
I mean, listen, all I need to hear is that Nancy Pelosi is his auntie or something like that.
unidentified
Is she?
zeek arkham
I think so.
Really?
unidentified
His auntie, his true marriage.
chris karr
His aunt's marriage.
unidentified
Yeah.
zeek arkham
So, I mean, listen, to me, it's more Pelosi crime family.
chris karr
Yes.
zeek arkham
You know, Gavin Newsom, his politics are going to be whatever it needs to be at the current moment.
You know, you're a Second Amendment guy.
Yeah, you know what?
I love the Second Amendment.
I want to protect it.
I just want to do common sense things to make sure people protect.
And by the end of the conversation, you're like, he's not so bad.
So he's going to do whatever it takes to win.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
And then the policy is turn your AR-15s in.
chris karr
Yeah.
phil labonte
Let's see.
Let's see.
Kai says Trump may get this challenge on the courts and force mail-in votes to be voided.
Mail-in votes were only legally allowed via courts and governor executive order.
Mail-in votes are different from absentee.
Look, man, I love the point.
I love that.
raymond g stanley-jr
Yeah.
phil labonte
You know, go ahead.
raymond g stanley-jr
No, I was going to say that makes a lot of sense.
Mail-in compared to absentee, whereas like the military and or folks in Medicare is a way different story, absentee compared to mail-in style.
So, yeah, that's a great super chat.
Makes sense.
phil labonte
Yeah, I agree.
Let's see.
raymond g stanley-jr
Thanks, Phil.
phil labonte
Yeah, he said only the Kai went on to say, only the legislature at the state level can change how they vote.
So it's true.
Janet West says Trump tightened the economic screws on Russia.
The European Tariff Agreement and the India Tariff negotiation, both main buyers of Russian oil.
Yeah, I mean, the more pressure the Trump administration puts on Putin, the better for the possibility of a peace deal in Ukraine.
But I don't know that enough can be done to actually make Russia stop their aggressive posture.
raymond g stanley-jr
The first sanctions didn't do crap.
They didn't do anything.
The sanctions made no difference.
They're fine.
Russia's thriving.
They're cool.
So it didn't make a difference.
phil labonte
Big Walt says, continuing the Tim Cast tradition, sending my first super chat from the hospital recovery room with my first son.
Congratulations.
unidentified
There we go.
Well done.
phil labonte
First son, that's what we like to hear.
Nice.
Around here, we are a very pro family.
Now make more.
raymond g stanley-jr
More bibbers.
He might have like four daughters because he said my first son.
phil labonte
Fair enough.
raymond g stanley-jr
You know what I mean?
phil labonte
Make more.
raymond g stanley-jr
Still.
phil labonte
If I understand, kids are awesome.
So, you know, the more you have the happier people.
Well, October.
raymond g stanley-jr
Okay.
phil labonte
End of October.
chris karr
That's going to be here before you know it, man.
phil labonte
I can't wait.
It's already like the alien inside her now.
unidentified
Yeah.
chris karr
Yeah.
phil labonte
She's always like, stuff's coming out.
She's always like, like, what?
unidentified
She's like, he just kicked me.
phil labonte
So, yeah.
Jason's guitar shed.
Phil and crew, my son-in-law, my son-in-law died suddenly last Tuesday.
He's an army vet of Iraq and Afghanistan.
We have a GoFundMe for him.
His name is Benjamin Mueller.
Support our fallen.
That's Benjamin M-U-L-L-E-R.
So if you guys, if you've got a little spare change, head on over to his GoFundMe and help out where you can.
And I'm sorry from, you know, on behalf of everyone around the table here, we're really, really sorry to hear that, man.
raymond g stanley-jr
Rest in peace, Benjamin.
phil labonte
Yeah, it's tough to lose a family member, especially someone young, son-in-laws of young people.
So sorry to hear it.
Let's see.
Taylor Cook says Kanna is a wolf in sheep's clothing.
Don't fall for it.
I mean, real connect.
I don't think there's a lot of people around here that are going to vote for him, just to say.
raymond g stanley-jr
But I don't know if he's a wolf or sheep and wolf's clothes or wolf in sheep's clothing.
I think he's.
Yeah, he's kind of authentic.
I've watched him on more than I've watched a bunch of Tim, a bunch of other podcasts.
He feels like he's who he is, though he's not probably more left as people like Newsom.
phil labonte
Lorenzo Greasy Bottom says, Phil is paid by the Jews.
Tim is not Jewish.
Kim is not Jewish.
I get a little bit of money from...
Oh, wait a minute.
raymond g stanley-jr
Oh, you are?
phil labonte
I got one of my tenants at my place in New Hampshire is Jewish.
So technically, I am paid by the Jews.
I am paid by the Jews.
The truth comes out later.
The all that remains business manager is Jews, but he doesn't technically pay me.
I pay him.
zeek arkham
There's one Jew, so it's not one Jew, yeah.
raymond g stanley-jr
A family of Jews, maybe.
A family of Jews is that you're telling me.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, yeah, his dad's Jewish, too.
And his dad was the actual guy that we started with 20 some years ago.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
phil labonte
Same business manager.
He's really good.
raymond g stanley-jr
So, yeah, family of Jews, ladies and gentlemen.
Phil gets paid by.
phil labonte
That's right.
He's the guy that sends my money from my business bank account to my bank account.
I'm like, Nathan, send it on over.
Let's see.
Bryant Law says, hey, Phil, we should also punish trucking companies who are corrupt and push illegals through violating the FM CSA federal standards laws already on the books.
Charge the DMV for fraud as well.
I mean, look, man.
raymond g stanley-jr
DMV is a good call.
phil labonte
I mean, like I said, like all the things.
All the things to make it hard for them to stay, I'm down with.
So I don't even know what you're talking about, but if it'll make it harder for them to get down with it.
zeek arkham
You know what it is?
The only reason I went done the right way is because the left would love to show that picture.
They already did it with kids crying and, oh, you look at Trump is separating family.
I don't want them to have that picture of now ICE agents standing outside of businesses leading people out.
And they're like, look at that.
They went into that business and went through everyone.
So I just, I went done the right way.
And then if it's done the right way, it's more permanent.
phil labonte
100%.
100%.
raymond g stanley-jr
And I feel like we all want that because we don't want them to use that against us.
phil labonte
All right.
Trucker 2019 says, Phil, I'm a truck driver.
Commercial driving is federal, not state level.
That Indian who caused the accident is facing federal charges, not state level.
Good.
I'm happy to hear that.
And I want the owner of the trucking company to face accessory to murder charges or, you know, whatever.
I don't know what.
raymond g stanley-jr
And Bondi, are you listening to IRL right now?
phil labonte
You should be.
Put them in jail, take away his company, take all his trucks and sell his trucks to his competitors.
unidentified
I like it.
Yeah.
I like it.
phil labonte
It's got to be brutal.
I like it.
unidentified
Brutal.
phil labonte
There is no reason for it.
raymond g stanley-jr
Competitors.
They're probably hiring illegals too.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
Let's read this right here.
phil labonte
Let's see.
Jonathan Foreman says, I work as a diesel tech for trucks and trailers.
I bet the company was out of somewhere near Chicago.
Those companies hire Eastern Europeans and Indians all the time, huh?
unidentified
Well, round them up.
phil labonte
Ship them out.
Beat it.
Take their property, take their business.
Get out of here.
raymond g stanley-jr
Sounds like AI trucks are going to be a thing now because they're going to do it for all the illegals.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, I said something about that when I saw this.
I was like, I can't wait till AI trucks are driving and this kind of stuff doesn't happen.
Or it happens less because, look, I know that people are, there are people that are critical of AI and critical of self-driving trucks.
And there are people that got so mad at me.
They're like, some dude was like, oh, I can't wait till AI takes over making ATR's music.
Blah, blah, blah.
It's like, bro.
What do you think happened to my industry when streaming came out 15 effing years ago?
As soon as you could get the Winamp player and people could pirate music out and shit 25 years ago.
unidentified
So don't come at me like, oh, it's don't take my business.
phil labonte
Screw you.
That shit happened to me fucking 25 years ago.
raymond g stanley-jr
But I do feel what that gentleman was saying because, you know, truck travers are the backbone of the economy if they're illegals.
phil labonte
They won't be for long.
raymond g stanley-jr
Damn it.
Sorry, guys.
zeek arkham
A lot of lizards are going to be out there protesting.
You're killing our business.
phil labonte
Right.
All right.
Venus Palace 7 says, big difference between California and LA.
You're able to say NYC and not New York, but you all forgot that California is a big state with more conservatives than any other state.
Don't lump us in with LA.
I feel you and you have my apologies.
You know, look, part of the reason why people kind of assume that it's all Democrats in California is because of the fact that they've had a Democrat government on, you know, their House and Senate or whatever their state versions of that are.
And they've had Democrats in office forever.
And they always vote for Democrats in the national elections.
And all of those things are probably why people make those assumptions.
But you do have my apologies.
I'm aware that there are a lot of Republicans out there that hate the fact that they're lumped in.
zeek arkham
Listen, I get it.
As a New Yorker, I completely understand.
And I live in a very red county, in a very red town.
So I get it.
However, it's still your state.
So you got to eat it.
I hear when they talk about New York and they're like, oh, you need to cut off New York from the rest of the country.
Listen, I get it.
But you got to eat it.
phil labonte
Yeah.
Yeah.
Last one: Igbales says, Don't forget that Newsome is Pelosi's nephew.
That is who he learned everything from.
Look, Pelosi's an extremely talented political animal as well.
She wouldn't have stayed in office for as long as she did, and she wouldn't have, she was the speaker.
Like, she is extremely talented.
So if she was teaching him, he learned from one of the best.
But right now, I want you to smash the like button, share the show with all of your friends.
Head on over to rumble.com and become a member so you can join us for the after show.
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Zeke, do you have, would you like to shout anything out or tell people where they can find you?
zeek arkham
Sure.
You can find me on Instagram, Zeke Auckham, Z-E-E-K, A-R-K-H-A-M.
You can find me on X, same handle.
And I just opened up a TikTok account because I have more people I want to piss off.
So you can find me over at TikTok, real Zeke Auckham.
And that's it.
Thanks again for having me on, guys.
phil labonte
Thank you for coming out.
raymond g stanley-jr
I hope you get to piss off a lot more people, my friend.
Good luck to that.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
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I work here.
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Let's go team.
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chris karr
What's up?
Chris Carr17 on X. Come follow me.
phil labonte
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The band is all that remains.
Our new record is called Anti-Fragile.
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Don't forget the left lane is for crime.
And stick around for the after show.
We will see you tomorrow.
unidentified
And drop in.
phil labonte
Over 400 arrests made in D.C. amid Trump admin crackdown on crime.
The postmillennial reports.
Sorry.
There you go.
U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia Gene Pirro announced there have been over 400 arrests made since the Trump administration began cracking down on crime in the nation's capital, with 127 of those arrests being over the weekend alone.
We're at more than 400 arrests over the weekend, 127 this past weekend.
With our federal partners in this cooperative law enforcement effort, we seized 21 illegal guns.
We've made arrests on warrants for homicide, sexual predators, drug trafficking, illegals.
If you want to be in D.C. and you're a criminal, you're not welcome, Jeanine Pirro says.
A White House official told the Daily Caller's Reagan Reese on Monday morning that over 380 arrests have been made in 11 days.
59 firearms have been seized and over 160 illegal immigrants have been arrested.
Of those illegal immigrants taken into custody, some were known gang members and the others had charges for assault, burglary, drug smuggling, and other charges.
Sunday night saw 22 multi-agency teams deployed throughout D.C. with 1,950 participants.
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