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Trump Exposes 275K Illegal Aliens Receiving Social Security Payments, Removes Them | Timcast IRL
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phil labonte
The White House was celebrating the 90th anniversary of the Social Security Act today.
They were focusing on the fact that they have passed a bunch of changes in the big, beautiful bill.
No tax on Social Security for seniors, they've removed something like 275,000 illegal aliens from the system, and there was 12.4 million names over 120 years old.
Some I think were even over 150 years old.
So we're going to talk about that a little bit.
Newsom is still running the President Trump playbook, he's talking about changing the whole makeup of the House of Representatives and it's going to change the presidency and they're going to impeach Trump and he's just running for president.
So he's just trying to get eyes on himself.
So we'll talk about Newsom a little bit more.
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The Smithsonian is revamping all of their, all of this stuff basically in the Smithsonian and it's sparked controversy with Gillian Michaels on CNN allegedly defending white people, something like that.
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And to join us tonight to discuss this and a whole bunch more is Terrence Williams.
terrence kentrell williams
Thanks for having me on.
I'm Terrence Williams.
I'm a comedian and the founder of Cousin Tea's Pancakes, Cousin Tea's Foods.
Happy to be on.
phil labonte
Awesome, thanks for joining us.
unidentified
Thank you.
phil labonte
Raymond G. Stanley's here.
raymond g stanley-jr
Hey guys, what's going on?
It's Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
I'm the local blue color devil dog here.
Cousin Tea, my very first Cousin.
My very first appearance was here with yourself, and out of my 15 to 20 appearances, you're on three, so it's good to see you all.
Yeah, man.
terrence kentrell williams
That's because we're cousins.
raymond g stanley-jr
Exactly.
Tate.
tate brown
Producer Tate here, Tate Brown holding it down.
How are we doing today?
I'm looking at the fried chicken mix there.
I'm on a cut right now, so seeing that is pretty soul crushing, but now I know the first thing I'm going to have.
terrence kentrell williams
You know, I have a keto fried chicken com coming out.
tate brown
Is that real?
terrence kentrell williams
It's going to be a low carb, low calorie keto fried chicken.
tate brown
Oh my goodness.
Well, I'm going to have to make some calls.
phil labonte
How much cardio are you doing if you're cutting?
tate brown
Too much.
phil labonte
Too much?
tate brown
No, just cutting.
terrence kentrell williams
Three miles.
tate brown
It's not that.
phil labonte
That's not a lot.
terrence kentrell williams
You got to do five, ten.
You need to do ten thousand steps a day.
tate brown
Yeah.
Yeah.
The steps is key.
phil labonte
Especially at your age.
tate brown
Yeah.
I'm 24.
I should be like in the prime right now.
phil labonte
So you are in the prime.
unidentified
Not yet.
tate brown
The prime's coming.
Everyone should get ready though.
As soon as I get some of that keto fried chicken mix, the prime will be over for you.
terrence kentrell williams
Let go those prime cheeseburgers.
tate brown
That's right.
unidentified
That's right.
phil labonte
So we're going to get into it.
Donald Trump was in the White House House today talking about all of the wonderful things that he has been able to do for the social security system because the Social Security Act is 90 years old today.
The anniversary was today.
So we're going to go ahead and listen to what President Trump had to say.
donald j trump
Last month, I signed one big, beautiful bill and allowed no tax on social security for our great seniors.
Okay?
So how's that?
Not bad, right?
No tax on social security for our seniors.
And to protect our benefits, we've already kicked nearly 275,000 illegal aliens off of the social security system.
These are people.
Many of them have already left the country, and yet we were sending them checks all the time, and 275,000, and that number is now even larger than that, frankly.
It's an unbelievable job.
And what that's doing is making the system strong.
It's making it strong.
Biden never kicked anybody off.
Everybody joined.
And we're carrying out historic deportations to remove many more illegals committing Social Security fraud.
It's the Social Security fraud that was taking place at levels that nobody's ever seen.
We cleared 12.4 million names listed in the Social Security database over 120 years of age.
Think of that.
So we had 12.4 million names where they were over 120 years old.
phil labonte
Is that right?
donald j trump
That's a hell of a statement.
I have a feeling, Dan, that's not really going to, that really didn't happen, did it?
So you have 12.4 million names listed in the Social Security database that were over 100.
20 years of age, meaning you were breaking records because I've never heard of anybody at 125.
There were nearly 135,000 people listed who were over 160 years old and in some cases getting payments payments, so someone's getting those payments and we're after that.
phil labonte
So this is one of the benefits of the big beautiful bill apparently.
He had the ability to take all these names off the social security rules.
This is something that I can't imagine how democrats will spin this to be a bad thing, but I think that they're they're likely going to try.
But I, I, just like the crime in DC, it's one of those things where democrats really, they can't.
So do you guys, do you guys figure that they're going to try and spin this as bad or do you think that they're going to just say that that they're hurting people?
Because that's the argument that I've heard in the past is, oh.
Oh, they're going to, they're taking social security from people that need it.
terrence kentrell williams
They're going to say that Trump is lying.
They're going to say he doesn't have proof.
They're going to demand to see this list in the names and how much money they were receiving.
Then they're going to make up a lot.
Then they're probably going to, I think they're going to manufacture a crisis, they're going to say Trump accidentally kicked a bunch of Americans off of social security and they're going to have that that deserves it.
phil labonte
Yeah, that should have been there.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah, that should have been there and he mistaken them for an illegal immigrant and this poor lady and they're going to have, they're going to have to pay people to lie for them.
I lost my social security after Trump made that statement., right before he made that statement, they're going to make up stuff.
phil labonte
Take that.
Is that going to fly with the American people?
Because I think that this is one of those topics that Americans kind of know.
Like if you pay attention to politics, they know that social security is insolvent and they know that and they generally it's nonpartisan to agree that social security fraud is bad.
tate brown
Yeah.
I mean, I remember at the State of the Union address, Trump presented these findings for the first time.
If I remember correctly, a few Democrats, you know, there's like in the State of the Union, it's all about who stands up and who doesn't for certain things, depending on what your constituents want.
But I remember when he was reading off those numbers, a lot of Democrats were like, yeah, this is it actually pretty, uh, this is pretty bad.
This is a really bad look.
Um, yeah, I mean, I I think those numbers are correct.
That DOGE did a, did a number on social security fraud and it was really extensive.
And, uh, yeah, the American people, there's a real anxiety with younger Americans, especially that we're not even going to see our social security.
So I think any attempt to shore up and guarantee that or squeeze out any longevity out of social security is going to go over really well.
terrence kentrell williams
Well, I don't, I don't think young Americans, a lot of young Americans, especially this new generation, they're not thinking about social security right now.
Not really young ones.
If you do, if you're talking about kids that are like eighteen and up, you know, like eighteen to twenty five.
I know when I was 25 I wasn't thinking about social security.
I was having taxes come out my check.
I said, where all this money going?
Social security.
I don't want social security.
Give me my money.
I got bills to pay.
But I do appreciate that we like I am glad that they caught this fraud, but I want to see some people arrested for this.
Who are the people that were cashing these checks?
Okay.
And if they were illegal immigrants collecting social security, how do we know that these were not some crooked Americans coming up with fake social security numbers collecting these fake checks.
raymond g stanley-jr
To be devil's kid, real quick.
He's saying that the names were on the list.
They're not saying that they were receiving benefits.
It could have been just a bug.
terrence kentrell williams
It could have just Oh, so they were not receiving benefits.
phil labonte
Their names.
raymond g stanley-jr
According to Al Jazeera and these terrible news sources, I apologize.
Watching posts are saying and folks are saying they were not actually receiving them, but the names were on the list, which they could have received.
Nobody knows.
I know.
phil labonte
Even Donald Trump in this particular clip, he said that some of them were receiving checks.
So there's twelve point four million names over 120 years old.
Probably what that is, is it's just inefficiency and it's not actually 12.4 million people that are committing fraud.
terrence kentrell williams
How do we know that it's something that they actually haven't cleaned up?
Because it's 120 years old.
How do we know that there are not people in government making up that?
Like, they found, like, I'm pretty sure someone that's working in government already knew this was going on.
They said, Wow, all these people collecting checks and they don't even know about it.
Any checks?
Oh, well, maybe I'll start collecting this check of this person who died 100 years ago somehow, funnel the money here or make up some stuff.
I don't know, but I doubt that nobody knew about this.
Somebody knew about this.
phil labonte
I mean, yeah, that's that's right.
terrence kentrell williams
And they kept their mouth shut because they were collecting that money too.
raymond g stanley-jr
I mean, that's the deep hole.
phil labonte
I don't, yeah, I don't, I don't think that we have, we don't, we don't have any evidence that being the case.
Now, I'm not saying that it's not possible.
And, uh, and, you know, in this clip, like I said, Donald Trump even.
terrence kentrell williams
It's a conspiracy.
We don't have the evidence.
phil labonte
Donald Trump even said, even Donald Trump said that there were people that might be collecting the checks.
And I think this is actually just cleaning up the rules because there's a significant difference between 275,000 illegals and 12.4 million names over 120, 20 years old.
You know what I mean?
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
Well, so yeah, I mean, we saw it.
We do see identity theft all the time with Social Security numbers in which, of course.
You have the Social Security Death Index.
A name will go there that they're dead.
The social security number is cleared, but it takes a little while for that record to be formally updated.
And then someone that's here that's illegally will take that number, use it for eVerify, use it for something else, presumably in this case, social security benefits.
It happens a lot.
So with the amount of illegal immigrants that are in this country, and there are a lot of really reputable organizations that estimate the numbers is far higher than twelve million.
I mean, a couple of million illegal immigrants on social security is probably an undercount, if anything.
I mean, there's probably a lot of them.
Because think about the amount of people working using eVerify.
You can see it for a second.
People in the comments will have anecdotes of people bypassing eVerify verification.
raymond g stanley-jr
And I do it for you.
I worked for the state of Pennsylvania.
I did welfare for a year and a half during COVID.
And we wouldn't get people's deaths.
Like sometimes it'd be like a year out.
phil labonte
Yeah.
raymond g stanley-jr
So we wouldn't know that they'd still be sending them their, you know, their food stamps or whatever, the MA medical for a year out until we were able to put them in the system and be like, hey guys, this person's deceased.
phil labonte
Yeah.
And all it takes is someone with power of attorney to cash a check for someone that's passed away.
Yeah.
You know, if you if your family member passes away and they'd given you power of attorney or or you have, or even if you have the card.
unidentified
Yeah.
raymond g stanley-jr
If you have the card, you could do whatever.
phil labonte
You could just grab it and use it yourself.
terrence kentrell williams
It's possible.
phil labonte
There's definitely fraud.
I mean, and I don't think that anyone's arguing that there isn't fraud in the system.
I think that's specifically what this is supposed to be countering, you know?
unidentified
Yes.
phil labonte
That's the reason for this, that stuff in the big, beautiful bill was to get rid of this stuff.
I think that it's one of those things that your average American is going to say, yeah, this is a good thing.
I can't imagine anyone on, you know, any, whatever your political opinion is, no one is going to say, oh, this is perfectly fine.
tate brown
I mean, deportation of all legal, full stop is a winning issue.
unidentified
Yes.
tate brown
Anyway, just polling wise.
So it's like 55% of Americans support all legal being deported.
So it's like, I mean, this is a layup.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
The support for not paying illegal social security.
unidentified
Right.
tate brown
Yeah, that's going to be very high.
We're talking high seven.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, Democrats have been on the wrong side of eighty twenty issues for at least the past year and a half regularly, consistently.
And a lot of it is driven by the fact that it's just Donald Trump that's bringing up these issues or that it's Republicans that are talking about them and they, the Democrats seem to have this need to just oppose Donald Trump, regardless of whether it's something that the American people want, regardless of whether it's something that's good for them.
They think that if I am opposing Donald Trump, this will play in my election and it doesn't matter if it helps the American people.
They've stopped representing Americans and they only represent people who want to oppose Donald Trump, even if it's detrimental to the American people.
raymond g stanley-jr
What do you guys think about it's going to be insolvent in 2034, 2035?
And you're saying young people, they don't care.
I mean, I didn't care.
Also as a young kid, because you have to pay your bills, everyone wants to buy a house nowadays.
You want to start a family.
They can't do it.
They can't afford anything.
And then now they're knowing that when they get older, they're not going to have any pension payment plans.
terrence kentrell williams
I think young people should care.
But now I'm starting to hear a lot of young people say they don't even want to own a home because it costs too much.
They don't want to deal with the maintenance.
They just want an apartment.
They don't want to own any land.
I don't want to own any land.
I mean, and then look at, I mean, people get, but look what the government is doing.
I mean, they've been, they have death tax, they have inheritance tax.
Some people get an inheritance and they let it all go because it costs too much to keep it because they're going to get tax for a death tax.
And I mean, it's just, so a lot of young people, they don't care.
They don't care, but they should care.
They should care because they should care though.
phil labonte
What the federal government is going to do is they're just going to monetize that debt.
terrence kentrell williams
Exactly.
phil labonte
They're going to take, they're going to just print money to pay the debt.
And that's going, if you think the inflation of the past couple of years has been bad, wait until they're trying to inflate away fifty trillion or seventy five trillion because right now it's thirty seven trillion.
unidentified
Yes.
phil labonte
By 2033, it will easily be 60 trillion, 70 trillion, 75 trillion.
And when they're trying to print enough money to cover that kind of debt, your dollars are going to be literal pennies.
tate brown
Well, you're already seeing in Europe what happens when you have massive debt and a declining population is all they're the only solution they've come up with is just importing as many people from the third world as possible.
And so if you are concerned about immigration, the level of immigration to the United States, you do have to balance the books at some point because there's no way around it.
It's like they need a tax base if they want to support these massive social programs and social security.
I mean, that would be political suicideide to advocate for abolishing or even like doing anything, really touching it in any way.
It could be political suicide.
So there's a lot of factors at play.
And it's like, yeah, I mean, the only solution these Western governments have come up with so far is just flooding the country with workers.
phil labonte
The reason that there has been no fix yet is not because they haven't been able to forecast what's going to happen.
It's because there is no political will.
And that's because old people vote and old people don't want their social security checks to change.
It is an unpopular thing with the largest portion of the voting population.
It's boomers, right?
There's boomers and Gen X., I don't think Gen X has started collecting social security yet, but even still, boomers are the ones that are on social security.
Boomers are the ones that need social security.
And even though they've paid in X amount of dollars, they're taking four or five times out what they actually paid in.
But they'll swear up and down that this is money that I paid in and I deserve this, et cetera.
So they, and again, they're the ones that vote and there's more of them.
We talk about this all the time.
There are fewer millennials than there are Gen X. There are fewer Gen X than there are boomers.
There are fewer Gen Z than there are millennials.
So there's no tax base and they don't have the voting power.
They don't have the political power at all.
Like even if they all joined together and said, we're going to vote to fix this stuff, the boomers are there's still enough boomers to say, no, you're not.
tate brown
Right.
phil labonte
We're going to vote for politicians that won't touch.
raymond g stanley-jr
They're like Gen Z and Gen Alpha combined.
unidentified
Yeah.
raymond g stanley-jr
Especially the amount of people.
Yeah.
phil labonte
Yeah.
And Gen Alpha won't be, you know, there won't be enough Gen Alpha voting for another 15 years.
terrence kentrell williams
You got the, you got the boomers concerned with social security.
The Gen X, you know, is it, is it, they Gen Z or Gen X?
Which one is it?
phil labonte
Gen X is right out.
It's Gen X then boomers.
I can't keep up with all this Gen Z. Gen Z. Millennials, Gen X then boomers.
terrence kentrell williams
Oh, okay.
Well, the really young people.
Gen Z. Gen Z. Okay.
You know, yeah, like their concern is, you know, and a lot of them are in the Democrats hat, they do a good job.
at manipulating Gen Z. Okay.
They have gotten a lot of them to hate Donald Trump for absolutely no reason.
They can't even explain to you.
And most of them, their main concern, some of them is saving TikTok.
Saving TikTok.
The boomers are trying to save Social Security and y'all trying to save TikTok.
These are, I mean, these are two different fights here, you know?
But the really important thing is, you know, is the future.
And TikTok is not the future.
That should not be the main concern of the social media and hating Donald Trump.
Like, that is not an issue.
Like, you need to be focused on your future, you know, about your social security and how you're going to be able to feed your children and and and even have a family and take care of a family.
You know, that is what is important.
And we got to get the young people to understand that.
tate brown
Well, the thing with Gen Z is you have this generalized nihilism among the entire generation, which is why you see candidates like Zoran get massive support.
And it's not even because Gen Z. has a particular draw to like Marxism or that sort of thing, it's just Gen Zers are so nihilistic and so dissuaded with the system that they've gone radical either way.
And there's really like being a, if you're Gen Z and you're a centrist, that's like cringe.
phil labonte
Gen Z, when Gen Z thinks of someone like Mom Dani, they're not thinking of, or when they talk about socialism or communism, right?
They're not thinking of Lenin, Mao, and Stalin.
They're thinking free health care and everyone should get health care.
terrence kentrell williams
They're thinking about Canada.
tate brown
Well, and Canada.
phil labonte
Yeah, they kind of think that's kind of true.
And as much as it sounds nice, it's not even working in Canada because Canada has, you know, long, long waits for care and they have have made medical assistance in dying and and they're paying huge taxes yeah they're paying over 50 percent of their income yeah but i mean and there are a lot of gen z that are like well i would pay that if i had health care if i didn't have to worry about but the thing is most people in gen z don't really need health care right
they're mostly most of the time they're young now of course there are people that have chronic illnesses of course there are people that do but people that need health insurance are people that are older because they have they're the ones that are going to go to the doctor more often you know that's and that's one of the things that if you're going to have a health care system you should be able to say, look, I want a, an expensive plan to cover if I break my arm or my appendix needs to come out, you know, something that's not likely going to happen and it doesn't cost them a ton of money.
So that way they don't get, you know, huge bills should there be a big problem, but then that'll help pay for the people that do need care that have chronic conditions that are, you know, whether they're young people with chronic conditions or they're older people who end up needing, you know, most of your, most of your health care cost in your life comes in the last five, ten years.
You know, that's that's usually what happens, but that's not what they're hearing or what they're thinking about when they hear.
Zoran Momdani talk or any other like AOC or Bernie Sanders, they think, oh, the government should just take care of everybody.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah, exactly.
raymond g stanley-jr
They don't take care of themselves because there's so many still so many badies out there.
There's like 50% of America.
phil labonte
75% of America are overweight, 50% of America is over is obese.
Yeah.
That is absolutely absurd.
And those people.
raymond g stanley-jr
They should think about themselves first.
phil labonte
Yeah, they have no right to demand that the state take care of their health care, especially when we're 37 trillion dollars in debt.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah.
phil labonte
And so we should pay for everyone's health care when these people don't take care of themselves.
raymond g stanley-jr
Yeah.
tate brown
And you can almost., but you can almost turn the issue where if you're a young person and you're looking at numbers like that, you're looking at a country where 75% of the people are sick effectively, that's what being overweight obese is.
Looking at a country that's racked up 37 trillion dollars in debt, looking at a country with sky high suicide rates and they're looking at, they're saying, why would I ever cast a vote that reinforces this system in any way, any meaningful way?
No, I want a Trump, I want a Memdani, I want to throw a brick through the window.
And they can do that through, I mean, right now they're using democratic systems to use that, but there's no guarantee as things decline more and more that there will still be a civil way out of this., a civil way to express the anger that people are feeling.
raymond g stanley-jr
So you're saying the future, the future is going to be healthy right wingers versus Addy.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah, the Democrats' Bazaar is free, free, free.
Nothing in life is free, okay?
If you want, if you want to eat, go work, okay?
If you want a roof over your head, go live with your parents.
If you're fortunate to have parents in your life and they let you live there.
If you don't have parents, if you don't have nobody to live with, work yo ass off and get a get a job and so you can afford to have a home.
You know, quick, I want free rent.
And I have cousins that say, it's crazy.
I saw one of them post online.
It's crazy that we actually gotta pay, that we actually gotta pay for water, something that we need to live.
It's crazy that we actually gotta, we need money to eat.
That's so crazy.
phil labonte
I was like, people with that mindset, I don't like, I don't want to, I don't want to just say that it's young people because it's not just young people that have that mindset.
The people that have that mindset have no relation to what it takes to provide them with the food that they're going to eat.
They have no idea how much we're, how many human out human.
Human hours of work go into making sure that the plumbing works in your building and in your city.
I mean, they I have a, you know, my place in New Hampshire, I got a well and I have to pay a guy to come out if the well, if there's a problem with the well.
In the, in the city, in a municipality, you have to pay a little bit, you know, per month for your water, but everything costs something, like you were saying.
raymond g stanley-jr
Yes, and your semiconductor too.
You just can't poo and it, and it magically disappears.
You have to clean out your semiconductor.
phil labonte
I mean, I could go out in the woods and dig a hole, but that's a awful thing.
And january 3 at 6 am, you know?
raymond g stanley-jr
Especially in wintertime.
Yeah.
phil labonte
It's terrible.
But, um, all right.
We're gonna get off this this one and we're going to jump to this story from Gavin Newsom.
Live updates Gavin Newsom calls for special election in California to redraw congressional maps.
This is just Gavin Newsom basically announcing that he's going to run for president and what he's trying to do is actually generate clicks.
So what to know today, new congressional maps.
California governor Gavin Newsom called on the state lawmakers to allow a November vote measure to redraw congressional districts.
This is likely not going to happen in California, to be honest with you, because it's going to take a ballot initiative.
They're going to actually have to vote for it.
The move comes as Democrats have sought ways to combat Republicans mid decade redistricting efforts in states like Texas.
Texas House Democrats demands.
Meanwhile, the Texas State House Democrats caucus set demands for Democratic lawmakers to return to the state, including ending the first special session of the Texas legislature aimed at passing redistricting efforts to benefit Republicans and for California to introduce redistricting maps to counter Texas.
The Democrat lawmakers in Texas still are on the lamb.
They haven't returned yet.
And I don't I haven't heard anything as to if Ken Paxton is actually pushing to round these people up.
I do think that the DOJ, the Federal DOJ has offered its services or the FBI has offered services.
I would like to see this, but I don't think that there's been anything developed about this.
So Trump is also saying that he believes that Trump is planning to run in 2028.
And this clip is actually really funny, but this is something that Donald Trump has been playing around with, you know, basically trolling the left because they're so reactionary that anything that Donald Trump says, they turn into such a massive deal and they run around like their hair's on fire.
And Gavin Newsom is.
Is the system not immune to that?
gavin newsom
Well, I think it's pretty sick and pathetic.
And it just said everything you need to know, the setting that we're under, that they chose the time, manner and place to send their district director outside right when we're about to have this press conference.
She said, Everything you know about Donald Trump's America.
And that was top down, you know that for a fact.
They'll deny it, I'm sure.
Maybe they won't deny it.
She said, Everything you know about the authoritarian tendencies of the President of the United States.
I said in a moment, wake up America.
Wake up.
You won't have a country if he rigs this election.
You will have a president who will be running for a third term.
Mark my word, I wasn't exaggerating when I said that I received in the mail a Trump 2028 hat from one of his biggest supporters.
These guys are not screwing around.
The rules don't apply to him.
The most corrupt president in history doesn't believe in free enterprise, crony capitalism.
He is wrecking this country, wrecking the economy.
He's a lawless president.
Wake up, America.
Wake up to what's going on.
phil labonte
It's hilarious.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah, he's running for president.
phil labonte
Yeah, he's definitely running for president.
tate brown
When you think free enterprise, you do think California.
unidentified
Yeah, I agree.
phil labonte
It's ridiculously ridiculous.
tate brown
It's like truckers refusing to take contracts.
Even like five years they have to switch to electricity.
phil labonte
There's been an exodus of businesses from California because of the policy.
raymond g stanley-jr
There's no red tape.
unidentified
It's just Yeah, yeah, it's like a total, it's like it's in paradise.
raymond g stanley-jr
I did a recruiting for a little bit in Sacramento back in 2018.
And even back in 2018, people were leaving freaking California to go to Texas and the other states because of their rules and their terrible policies.
unidentified
Yeah.
raymond g stanley-jr
For the free enterprising out of that state.
And Gavin Newsom, I mean, this guy's swarmy.
I need to take a breath.
terrence kentrell williams
He would love.
raymond g stanley-jr
He's a disgusting human being, brother.
terrence kentrell williams
He would love for President Trump to run a.
run in 2028 because that would help him raise So much money.
I mean, he's begging for Trump to run again because it would help him raise a lot of money.
unidentified
Yeah.
terrence kentrell williams
That's, yeah, I mean, that's what he wants to run on.
He wants to, he would love to run against President Trump.
That's his dream.
raymond g stanley-jr
Oh, he'd get murdered.
terrence kentrell williams
That's his dream.
You know, he probably wanted to, he probably wanted to run in place of Joe Biden, but he couldn't, you know?
He probably wanted to do that.
He was probably jealous watching Kamala Harris run.
He's like, I wish that was me running for it because I would have won, you know?
Yeah, this guy's a joker.
Look at what you've done with California.
He has ran California into the ground.
Okay.
It is so expensive to live there.
The homeless crisis is out of control.
Y'all can fact-check me on this, but I've been reading a lot about $100 million in relief funds have been missing.
Something shady going on there.
I mean, man, find that money first and then you think about running.
Where's the money?
We don't want to hurt nothing else.
Where's the money?
phil labonte
To your point about the way that California has been run, it takes a really significantly badly run state to get people to leave a state like California.
Yes.
Because it's beautiful, right?
The the fact that it's it's so nice all the time in February, you can literally be standing in like Lakewood and it's like 75 degrees, gorgeous out and you can go, you can see the snow capped mountains just a, you know, half an hour, 45 or 45 minutes an hour away if there's no traffic.
Beautiful.
You can go snowboarding in the morning and if you want, you could be on the beach by the evening.
When you have a place that is that gorgeous, though it is really, really, really tough to get people to leave.
So to think of all of the people that have left California because I think it's something something like half a million or so people have left in the past since COVID.
It was me.
It was Surge left.
And I mean, it's like I've been there a lot and it's beautiful, but I mean, I couldn't live there with the policies that they have.
raymond g stanley-jr
This is the first time they had a drop in migration, state migration.
tate brown
Yeah.
raymond g stanley-jr
It was last year, it was the first time they had more people leaving than they had moving in there.
I mean, I lived, I had a place in Camarillo back in the mid 2000s.
And so I know the whole Ventura County, West Lake area.
Super nice, super nice.
I can't imagine Have you been at 29 Palms?
I've been there before, but I've never lived there.
phil labonte
Never worked there.
unidentified
Yeah.
raymond g stanley-jr
But anyway, it was I can't imagine living there today and what kind of rules and regulations they have.
And like they had a guy get shot on Thousand Oaks Boulevard, which is the super nicest, one of the best communities was one of the safest next to Semi Valley in California just a couple of years ago because he was protesting in Israel and the whole thing and someone got murdered right on the street.
It's just I can't imagine how that would be back in the mid in the 2000s.
unidentified
It's just insane how it got the S. Have you spent any time in California?
tate brown
No, not right.
I've been I've been up there once, but I keep an eye.
I mean, look, you're right.
It is like geographically the perfect.
Perfect place.
I mean, perfect.
It's like you mix the Mediterranean with the Alps and you just smash it right by a coast.
Tremendous.
I mean, if you had the same policies and, you know, like I used to live in Indiana, if you pass the same policies in Indiana, you'd have like ten people left.
People would get out of there.
So many.
phil labonte
Yeah, the same thing with like, like, the only reason that, that, I mean, I can't imagine that you could have the same policies in New England.
That was what I was going to say.
But then I think about Massachusetts and I think about New York and New Jersey.
tate brown
But even then, like, California is at a different level.
I mean, they dropped like, almost a trillion dollars on a high speed rail that goes from like, what, Fresno to Merced.
raymond g stanley-jr
Is that even done?
phil labonte
I mean, that would be, it will never be done.
It was a complete failure.
There is no hide speed rail that's going to be in.
raymond g stanley-jr
Did they do anything positive there?
Like, did they accomplish any of the missions or goals?
phil labonte
Nothing.
raymond g stanley-jr
Okay, so a lot of talk and a lot of hoopala.
phil labonte
They built nothing because of bureaucracy and free enterprise.
Yeah, exactly.
The state of free enterprise.
terrence kentrell williams
Imagine Gavin Newsom.
Imagine a Gavin Newsom America.
He would be worse than Barack Obama.
That's impressive.
He would be worse than Joe Biden.
I couldn't even imagine.
I wouldn't leave America because this is my country.
I was born here, raised here.
I ain't going no damn where.
But it would be sickening to live under a Gavin Newsome America like rule.
Because I mean, this guy would be, he would be how people are viewing, how some of these Democrats are viewing Donald Trump to be this, this dictator and this control freak and this crazy man, that is going to be Gavin Newsome.
Everything he's accusing Trump of, that is going to be him.
He is projecting.
tate brown
Yeah.
raymond g stanley-jr
And isn't he a lizard?
I think Shane called him a lizard before.
tate brown
Yeah, he's just really, because he's kind of old school in a weird way.
Like he is this kind of old school, slimy, kind of Tammany Hall politician, but he'll just adopt whatever because that's going to be his problem in 2028 is he has these marketing agencies that are behind him in his ear right now saying, hey, you need to LARP like you're this masculine tough guy.
And then he's going to get the 2028 and get that primary and realize the Democratic voters want someone that's like trans, like Puerto Rican, whatever.
He's going to get cooked.
phil labonte
Do you think that he could win the nomination?
I don't think that he could win because he's a CIS white man.
tate brown
Well, and right now, whatever marketing agency is in his ear, he's trying to win over like moderate Republicans, but you still have a primary to get through.
If you're running in a general, that might actually work.
terrence kentrell williams
He doesn't even sound trusting.
Like, he's just he was on the car sells.
raymond g stanley-jr
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
He was on Sean Ryan's show and like, and he gave him like a pistol and then Sean was like, Yeah, this is so sick.
I love God.
terrence kentrell williams
He looks like a shady lawyer.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
It's like he gave him like a hedgehog or something.
He was like, This is crazy.
terrence kentrell williams
Gavin Newsom would, if Gavin Newsom became president, he is the one who would want a third term.
He would say, I need to stay in so we will never have another Donald Trump in this country again.
Like, that is exactly what he would say.
unidentified
You know?
phil labonte
Do you, I don't, it's my sense, like you said, it's my sense that he couldn't win a primary.
I don't know.
How do you, how do the, how does the Democrats look at someone like Gavin Newsom and actually say, okay, we're going to put our, the base is going to get behind you.
I can imagine the money getting behind him.
terrence kentrell williams
Oh, yeah, yeah.
phil labonte
I think that there's a big, there's a big, there's a big civil war going on in the Democratic Party between the actually the woke, the very progressives and the people like Newsom.
And to Tate's point, he is going on Sean Ryan trying to grab the Republicans that might not love Donald Trump.
But I don't see how he wins a primary, especially if it's someone like.
AOC.
And again, I know there are people that disagree with me.
Last time I was here, we had this discussion.
We had this conversation.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
phil labonte
But I like whether or not you like AOC's policies, which obviously I don't like.
I'm a, you know, I'm very much a free market guy and I want to deport a bunch of people and I'm far more conservative than or far more right wing, I guess, than than most of the people on the right, to be honest with you.
But like, I don't see how someone like Gavin Newsom can get on stage with AOC and how the base would look at Gavin Newsom and say, I would rather vote for Gavin Newsom than for AOC..
raymond g stanley-jr
I think he would.
I think it's a lot of BS with their whole, their BIPOC.
They want the minority.
I feel like he would.
He would definitely win the primary because he's slimy enough.
He says the right things for them.
terrence kentrell williams
Or maybe they'll run together.
Yeah, but it's like a CP.
Newsom Cortez.
raymond g stanley-jr
I think it's all fake on the.
We want this.
We're so mad.
We want the trans queer person.
It's all fake because they got Joe Biden.
He's white.
They're going to if Brock is kind of white.
terrence kentrell williams
I would pay for Newsom to choose.
Well, I know he can't do this because Maxine lives in California, but I would love to.
I would pay to see Newsom Waters.
To see Magazine Waters.
unidentified
Well, I mean, that's I would love to see that.
I would get a kick out of that.
tate brown
That would be a beautiful thing.
I mean, look, the problem in 2028 for Newsom is going to be like, think how angry Democrats are right now.
I'll imagine after three years of Trump, they're going to want to go back and fight fire with fire.
And they're going to choose the most radical option that the Democrat, the DNC will basically allow them to have.
phil labonte
Do you think that would be someone like AOC?
Or do you think there's someone that's actually more radical that could possibly take her place?
tate brown
Yeah, I mean, it could be an AOC.
I mean, there's even guys that nobody's really talking about yet that are sniffing around like Ruben Gallego.
I mean, there's a chance that someone like him could raise a bunch of money because those guys like guys like Rubin, like senators have connections.
Senators, that's a good point.
And to win a race in Arizona, you have to raise a lot of money.
So Ruben Gallego, he knows how to raise money, but he's progressive enough to please the radical left base and he can still talk and cool down the more established Democrats.
Someone like Newsom's cooked because the base in 2028 is not going to want to moderate.
I mean, think about how we were in 2016 and they're like, here's Scott Walker and Jeb Bush.
And we're like, no, we want the guy that's like calling him gay on stage.
That's awesome.
We want that guy.
So the Democrats are going to have that moment in 2028.
phil labonte
It is true that you make a great point.
The Congress people do not win.
I can't remember the last time someone from Congress, from the House of Representatives won the presidency.
If you're a senator, you have far more influence with the moneyed people.
They tend to deal with those people more because, look, if you're looking to open some kind of big business or you want your business to be in a state, you don't go talk to the third district's congressional representative because they're it's small potatoes.
But if you talk to the junior senator even from a state, that's someone that can actually help you when it comes to getting legislation passed.
They can act, especially if they're on depending on which committee they're on, of course.
But so that, you know, that is a really great point.
If there's someone that's a senator that is progressive, they will probably have a significantly higher chance than anyone in the.
terrence kentrell williams
Gavin Newsom, people are running from Gavin Newsom, you should not be running for president when people are running from you.
Yeah.
They're running from California.
They don't want, they don't want to live in a state that you are running because of you.
You are terrible.
tate brown
Well, he's going to get embarrassed.
terrence kentrell williams
I think personally California accounts for a large portion of the homeless population.
Imagine if he becomes president, we all gonna be homeless.
tate brown
Real.
Well, it's gonna be like one giant skid road.
Yeah.
terrence kentrell williams
One giant skid road.
tate brown
I think he's gonna get embarrassed with his ballot measure in November.
Because if you look at the polls right now, the Californians for what it's worth, you have to give them a dub every now and then.
They do really like their independent commission.
True.
I think the polls are like 60-40 right now.
And now you have guys like Arnold.
I mean, Arnold's still well liked in California.
He's getting involved.
He's saying, no, do not repeal this.
So like, come November.
I think Gavin news.
I don't even know if he's gonna get this across the finish line.
The only way he is, is he's gonna be able to present this in a really party-based way.
raymond g stanley-jr
But you talk about further redistricting.
tate brown
For the redistricting.
But like, by the time, by November., like, we would be a midterm season, like people are just, Californians like their, for what it's worth, they like their independent commission, even the Democrats.
phil labonte
Yeah, I don't, I don't, I don't imagine that there's going to be actual actual redistricting in California, because I don't see them, I don't see the balladin should pass.
terrence kentrell williams
Is Gavin Newsom allowed on this podcast?
Would you interview him?
phil labonte
We would have him here in a harpy.
terrence kentrell williams
Since he's trying to reach the conservative base.
phil labonte
In a harpy.
terrence kentrell williams
He should come on this show.
I would love to see you all tear him into pieces.
tate brown
I think we just ask him very basic questions and he'll tear himself to pieces.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah, he will tear himself to pieces.
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah.
You know?
raymond g stanley-jr
So he comes through.
phil labonte
I still won't roll up Gavin.
unidentified
We got you.
raymond g stanley-jr
We got you.
End of day.
I'm thinking Gavin Newsman still has a chance of winning the primary.
But my still, my overall pick, I said before here is I know people don't like this pick, but so I still think Ro Khanna is messed up.
Ro Khanna.
terrence kentrell williams
What's that?
raymond g stanley-jr
If you guys think he's too moderate, I know you guys saw him last time, but I still think Ro Khanna has a really good shot.
Ro Khanna, you know who Ro Khanna is?
phil labonte
It's it.
I think that he possibly could win.
tate brown
Ro Khanna, he's just he's he's in a weird spot because his specific district really likes him.
Let's, this is rare.
phil labonte
Also, he's a congressman.
Congressmen are right.
raymond g stanley-jr
I hear what you're saying.
terrence kentrell williams
What is what is his last name?
raymond g stanley-jr
Kana Kana AHA NNA.
terrence kentrell williams
He won't be president.
No, just on the last name, period.
tate brown
Yeah, we like what they say.
Kana is Obama.
terrence kentrell williams
It's not, it's not, he's getting around.
raymond g stanley-jr
He's going on all these podcasts.
People love him on the left.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah.
raymond g stanley-jr
Just kind of moderate.
tate brown
I still can't believe we did that as a country.
terrence kentrell williams
What black man got the middle name Hussein?
tate brown
You know, usually post prison.
terrence kentrell williams
What a, yeah, Hussein.
Yeah, that's, yeah, that's post prison.
tate brown
Yeah.
terrence kentrell williams
Hussein.
tate brown
So if Trump puts Obama in jail, what's he, how's he going to muzzle up his head?
terrence kentrell williams
I've never met a black person with that middle name.
You will never meet a, a, a, a.
A Trayvon Hussein Williams, a Taquan Hussein Johnson, like Hussein.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, what was Barack Obama's father's name?
tate brown
Barack Obama Sr., I think.
unidentified
What was it?
tate brown
I think it was Barack Obama.
phil labonte
So then it would be Barack Hussein.
If he's a junior, it would be Barack Hussein Obama.
raymond g stanley-jr
Yeah, that's something like.
unidentified
Alexa is you're trying to.
tate brown
with the Rokana thing.
I mean, the thing about Rokana is he's in a weird district because it's like a tech bro district.
So his, it's rare to actually see a rep that is really well liked by his constituents and disliked by the rest of the party.
terrence kentrell williams
I can't imagine a president named Rokama.
tate brown
I know.
raymond g stanley-jr
Everyone loves him, bro.
I'm telling you.
I'm gonna stick to it.
unidentified
Does he have the name?
raymond g stanley-jr
But, uh, oh, he's a a senior, you're right.
tate brown
Yeah, yeah.
But I think Ro Khanna could maybe appeal to the tech bro sector and win him back to the Democrats.
Because I do think the nationalist MAGA base and the tech base, we've already seen tensions flare up a few times already in the Trump presidency.
Come three years, we could see a major move.
terrence kentrell williams
Do you think he's a better option than Vivek?
tate brown
Well, I'm saying that the Democrats, I mean, if the money came back to the Democrats, maybe they could squeepe Ro Khanna across the finish line.
I doubt it.
Maybe a VP.
phil labonte
Vivek is going to be, he's looking to be the governor of Ohio.
He's running for Oh yeah, is that this year?
tate brown
I think he also nukleared his national ambitions with this Christmas crash out over the age one.
raymond g stanley-jr
Oh yeah.
phil labonte
Oh, do you think so?
tate brown
Yeah, I agree.
The MAGA base is in charge now.
We're in the driver's seat.
We don't have to tolerate that.
terrence kentrell williams
I haven't posted this video yet, but I had got a call on my phone.
It's a hello?
I said, who is this?
unidentified
We're calling about, what do you think about the American Pilot Tex?
terrence kentrell williams
I said, who is this?
This is John.
I said, John, where are you from?
I am from Idaho.
unidentified
I said, yeah, I recorded, I got my other phone to record the call.
terrence kentrell williams
I'm going to post it.
unidentified
I said, John, you really from Idaho.
terrence kentrell williams
Yes, I'm from Idaho.
I just called about Pilot Tex.
What do you think about what's going on in America right now?
phil labonte
I don't know if you're sleeping.
tate brown
I'm in H one B in our coal.
phil labonte
I'm just rooting the call through Idaho.
unidentified
I'm gonna ask Museum when Idaho via New Delhi via Idaho.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah, I said scam likely's.
raymond g stanley-jr
Why are you answering the scam likely's?
terrence kentrell williams
Man, they they call from it didn't come up as scam likely.
unidentified
Yeah, spoofy.
terrence kentrell williams
You know, they call from all kinds of numbers now.
Yeah.
phil labonte
Well, yeah, I mean, it's pretty clear that that Newsom is going to be running for president and it's I don't know if you guys saw the tweet that he put out, but his, his comms team is actually trying to emulate Donald Trump.
Yeah, doing Oh, good.
Which is what do you mean good?
tate brown
Because it just shows that Trump like commands.
the conversation.
terrence kentrell williams
But it's so terrible the way he's doing it.
Like, did you see the last one he did with us with Steven Miller?
He was using, have you all seen the post that Gavin Newsom Office did with Steven Miller?
Right, that he did about Steven Miller.
Look at.
phil labonte
About Steven Miller.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah, about Steven Miller.
He replied, he did a quote tweet.
It is insane.
Just look at it.
I mean, no, you're going to, no, this is, this is worse than all caps.
I mean, it was, please, look at this.
tate brown
Well, they think they're being like coying.
terrence kentrell williams
Gavin Newsom Office quote tweet.
You gotta see this.
This is about...
Oh, it is...
It is terrible.
phil labonte
Miller not Trump?
This one?
terrence kentrell williams
I can't see that.
phil labonte
No, that's not it.
terrence kentrell williams
You should give some glasses.
raymond g stanley-jr
Yeah, he did a quote tweet.
phil labonte
Is it from the governor?
terrence kentrell williams
Yes, it's from the governor's office.
unidentified
He did a quote tweet.
terrence kentrell williams
Go down, go down, go down, go down, go down, go down.
He did a quote tweet.
How many times did we post today?
unidentified
A lot, I'm sure.
today uh yeah that's from today five hours ago yeah it was look he even put sad it was yes it was sad It was yesterday.
raymond g stanley-jr
It's sad.
tate brown
Like Trump just Trump dominated, he's changed the American syntax forever.
terrence kentrell williams
It was yesterday.
unidentified
Now maybe you can type in the maybe you can okay.
Yeah.
raymond g stanley-jr
No, no, no.
phil labonte
Carol Lion.
They're trying to give nicknames to Carol Lion.
tate brown
Like, I mean, has there ever been a single Democrat that's Keep on going.
had aura like Trump.
phil labonte
I mean, this is this is so Smithsonian's supposed to be a global symbol of American strength?
terrence kentrell williams
No, keep on going.
raymond g stanley-jr
Oh, that was close.
unidentified
Taco Channel?
These blues, there's all these.
terrence kentrell williams
Oh, he posts too much then.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, he's trying to be Donald Trump, oh my God, look at they did like Coveffee.
Like, that is.
tate brown
This is fan behavior.
This is weird.
phil labonte
Yeah, this is creepy.
unidentified
He broke his brain.
Yeah.
tate brown
Guys, what if we mock Trump's style by just emulating it in a really flattering way?
And it's so great idea, guys.
Yeah.
raymond g stanley-jr
It's so easy to trigger them to like anything.
phil labonte
Well, yeah.
raymond g stanley-jr
It's just they're easy.
They're easy.
phil labonte
Someone sent them a Trump 2028 hat and he's like, Oh, they're serious.
They're really going to do it.
And you're going to lose.
And again, lose your democracy, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
It's the same playbook.
So, hey, Tennessee, why don't you see if you can find that and then send it a, send an email or send it over to Surge or whatever and we'll bring it up.
Yeah.
But we're going to jump to this story right now from the Washington Post, DC clears homeless encampment near Kennedy Center.
DC gave residents a day's notice to remove their belongings.
The clearing comes as the Trump administration has vowed to crack down on homeless encampments in the city.
Members of DC's health and human services team began clearing an encamp Thursday, Thursday morning on a grassy no man's land near the Kennedy Center after giving residents a day's notice to remove their belongings.
The clearing comes as the Trump administration has vowed to crack down on homeless encampments in the district and threaten to fine or arrest individuals who refuse to be removed or replaced in shelters.
It also follows President Donald Trump declaring an emergency in the nation's capital earlier this week and putting the city's police department under federal control.
He sent federal law enforcement agents on patrols in DC and deployed the National Guard to the city.
DC police data show violent crime after a historic bike in 2023 is down.
Is this a terrible, terrible position for the post to be taking because even Democrats, the talking heads, Joe Scarborough was talking to Mark Halpern today and Joe Scarborough was talking about crime in DC and how the Democrats should not be getting behind this.
He was mentioning how when Scarborough was in Congress in the 90s, the Republicans would say something and then Bill Clinton would cut their legs out from under him by saying, I agree with him.
And then he'd say, well, this is what I think we should do.
And then, of course, Clinton would fight with the Republicans the whole time, so it wouldn't be like Clinton was, was, was, was, you know, giving Republicans what they wanted, but he cut the wind out of all of their arguments by saying, oh, I agree with him.
They're right about that.
I agree with him.
Bill Clinton was an absolute master at rhetoric and he was a master at taking the wind out of the sails of the, of his political opponents.
So the Republicans had to respond.
But like we were saying earlier, there are so many people now in the Democratic Party that look at Donald Trump and think their job is to do whatever Donald Trump doesn't want them to do.
That's why they've come down on the wrong side of so many 80-20 issues.
The post goes on.
Let's see.
The post goes on.
By 8 a.m.
Thursday at the encampment, three people had already packed their belongings and scattered.
Six more were busy wiping down their tents and folding tarps to meet at 10 a.m. deadline set by the district.
Several residents say they had been at the encampment for months.
It's a longer walk than it looks across the bridge to Virginia, said David Beatty, sixty seven, who has lived in the camp for eight months.
If I can get my stuff in storage, I'll do what I usually do.
I have a broom and a dust pan, and I walk around sweeping up.
The district usually posts notices for clearings fourteen days in advance, and the site has not been on the district list for clearings.
Rebecca Dooley, a spokesperson for the Deputy Mayor for Health and Human Services, said the encampment's proximity to the highway qualified it for expedited removal, which requires only twenty four hours notice.
Why is there any notice required?
If you're you should not be allowed.
raymond g stanley-jr
You're a decent human being, I guess.
I don't know.
I'm just throwing something out there.
phil labonte
Look, they're homeless people.
And it's not like they're just hanging out.
They've literally built essentially homes.
raymond g stanley-jr
Yeah, right.
phil labonte
They're they've got tents, they've got tarps.
raymond g stanley-jr
If they shouldn't They've got gas grills, they've got everything.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, they're just fly screens.
Yeah, they're dangerous.
Possibly.
raymond g stanley-jr
Sure, sure, but, you know, but like, I've seen a bunch of homeless chemists, but never had.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
phil labonte
He shouldn't be given, there shouldn't be any kind of required time for them to notice given to him.
Just go and tell them they have to leave.
Yeah.
Because they're loiter, they're, you know, they're, they're trespassing.
tate brown
Yeah, I mean, it is true.
And like what we were saying earlier in the article where, like, for whatever reason, you were speculating why the left is pushing back on this.
It's actually kind of, I think it's clear, is because the whole purpose of modern left-wing political thought is to demoralize patriots.
And what is more demoralizing than walking around your nation's capital?
And there's, I mean, it looks like Bonne Roo.
I mean, it's like a total disaster.
So what's the most empowering thing you could do for a patriot is to clean up his capital city, get the riffraff out, get the homeless out, make it really pretty?
You know, Trump wants to re re reinvigorate our architecture, our federal architecture.
He's, he's, you know, changed, swapped out the official architecture style of our federal buildings.
And so it's like, yeah, this is actually a huge threat to the left is that Trump wants to empower patriots and actually make you feel good about your country and your capital again.
So it's like, yeah, they actually can't concede this point.
They can't.
They can't let DC become a beautiful place that'll bring too much pride to the American heart.
terrence kentrell williams
And that's why they're making it about race now.
DC has a lot of, yeah, oh, now what they've been making about race.
But that's what they're pushing.
You know, they're not pushing.
Trump is trying to change things to make America so beautiful again and safe again.
He's doing this because it's a black mayor.
He, he, a black woman intimidates Donald Trump.
He's doing this because it's a lot of black people that live in DC.
And he's just trying to get in their way.
He don't like black people.
That's why he's doing this.
That is literally their argument right now about him keeping a him, him keeping DC safe, Washington DC safe, they have made that about him attacking black people.
That is not an attack on black people at all.
Do you think there are a lot of selling though?
Huh?
phil labonte
Do you think that people are buying what they're selling?
terrence kentrell williams
People who, okay, you have people who are going to, who just hate Trump, so they're going to believe anything that they say about Trump.
phil labonte
White people.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah, white people.
And there are some black people too who believe everything that the Democrats tell them.
You have a group of those.
But there are a lot of boomer blacks who are happy about this.
They're like, yes, because I'm tired of going to Walgreens and it's getting ro robbed when I'm trying to go pick up my medication.
You know, I want to be able to walk to the bus station or take the bus without anyone on the bus.
When you go with a gun and threaten to rob people.
phil labonte
When you go into high crime areas and they pull the people in the high crime areas all the time, they're like, yes, we want more police.
The people that want to defund the police, the people that don't want more police.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah.
phil labonte
They're always wealthy people that don't live in the high crime areas.
terrence kentrell williams
Exactly.
phil labonte
Almost all the time.
So this isn't impopular with the people that it's affecting.
terrence kentrell williams
Yes.
phil labonte
It's extremely popular with the people that it's affecting because those people are the ones that have to live with the pol crime.
They have to live with the vagrants.
They have to live with the homeless in the area.
They have to live with, I mean, homeless people do crazy stuff because there's the Venn diagram of homeless people, mentally ill people, and drug users is almost a circle, right?
Like, yes.
Homeless people and mental illness go hand in hand.
Homeless people and drug use go hand in hand.
There is a reason why they are homeless, and very rarely is it chronic homelessness.
Not that there are people that fall in hard times, but chronic homelessness is almost always mental illness and drug use.
Those two things are hand in hand.
So people that live in these areas, they don't want to open up their door, like our guest last night, Adam was saying, you know, you open up your door and there's a homeless guy sitting on your, on your stoop.
Like nobody wants that.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah, don't, don't, don't, nobody wants that.
People want to live in clean and safe environments, that's what most people want.
The people who don't care about that, they are dirty and disgusting and they just don't care about nothing, but nothing at all, evidently.
You know, they don't care about their surroundings, they don't care about their community, they don't care about safety, they don't care about their community being clean, they're just living a life life, doing, committing crimes, and partying, and smoking, and drinking, and they don't, they don't give a damn, okay?
Seriously.
tate brown
It totally fits.
Like when you see people that advocate really heavily for the homeless, or they're really concerned about mental health issues, or they're really upset about ICE raids, they're typically really disgeneic looking.
And it's because a disgeneic soul will like present itself, it manifests itself physically, and it's also manifesting itself in their politics.
They're voting for the most disgene, disgusting policies.
It's a war on beauty.
And when you see stuff like homeless people sitting next to these beautiful monuments that were built hundreds of years ago.
That's just the FU to beauty.
That's all that's all that's happening here.
You just hate things that are beautiful.
That's why they want to destroy children.
That's why they want to take beautiful young men and women and transition them and load them up with drugs and cut them up.
It's a war on beauty, fundamentally.
raymond g stanley-jr
It's the same argument as the left in these office saying that black folks or people of color can't get IDs to vote.
Like, nobody has IDs.
They can't get IDs.
They don't know what.
They don't know how to use computers, for God's sake.
phil labonte
Cathy, don't you have IDs right now?
raymond g stanley-jr
Cathy Hulchell?
unidentified
You know, do you know what that is?
raymond g stanley-jr
Exactly the same thing.
And then when you talk to the people in the town, you talk to the people on the streets, of course I have an ID.
Of course I have an ID.
terrence kentrell williams
I'll say this to you.
I'll saym telling you right now, if that is the truth, if somebody is lying or maybe these liquor stores are not checking IDs.
Because a lot of places where I grew up, there was a liquor store on every street.
And a lot of black people were in those liquor stores buying liquor, okay?
Now you mean to tell me that these people can't get an ID but they're in a club every weekend?
They're in a club Turk and the Sexy Red.
They're in a club Turk and the Sexy Red.
unidentified
They're in a bar.
terrence kentrell williams
They're driving.
They paid to go see Cardi B at the club but they ain't got no ID.
When they check the ID at the door.
And then hold on.
Some people don't have an ID so they're using a fake ID so they still know how to get some type of ID.
Sometimes I'm a oddie.
raymond g stanley-jr
Even if it's fake, they still got an oddie.
terrence kentrell williams
They still got an oddie.
tate brown
I found that people on the lower end of the income scale are the best at exploiting government programs, like masterful.
Like, I used to like, I've had a few jobs where you interact with a lot of people that just scam for a living.
And it's like when they explain to me the procedures and protocols of how they like hack these government systems, I'm like, I could never occur, like, you're a genius in the realm of scamming.
It's like, how do we, how do we canal these scammers into, like, into the realm of scamming?
terrence kentrell williams
Right now, this, right now, this is, this is the year, this is the year 2025.
This is not, this, we are not living in bc times okay if you want something you can just it may not be easy but you can get it now especially an id you can just go you can get a state id if you can't drive you can go get an id from you can go to the library and get an id okay but we are living like we are living in the greatest country in the world if you want something you can get it that doesn't mean it's going to be easy nothing in life is easy but uh black people can black people can they
can achieve anything anything but the democrats don't want them to believe that because they need them they need they need them for their votes and they don't want them you, you know, we need you.
So we're going to tell you that you can't get this unless you vote for me.
raymond g stanley-jr
That's what I mean.
terrence kentrell williams
You can't do this unless you vote for me.
And also, I'm going to tell you something you can do, but this is something you can do, but I'm going to tell you you can't do it.
You don't know how to go get an ID.
Do you understand me?
You don't know how to.
So, and we, you don't know how to, okay?
So we, we're running on that.
So, you don't need an ID to vote.
Don't, don't get one because we want to run on.
You don't know how to get one.
raymond g stanley-jr
You know, like, that's what I'm saying.
terrence kentrell williams
That's so stupid.
raymond g stanley-jr
They're telling that with the whole ID thing, they can't get IDs.
They're also telling the local residents who live in the city, live in the area that they're safe.
There's no crime going on there.
But when you talk to the local folks, there's mad interviews going on right now.
You see people on the street.
How do you feel about this?
And like, yo, I love this Trump coming in.
I love that they're bringing in these people to crack down the streets.
terrence kentrell williams
Because you know what?
raymond g stanley-jr
This girl got shot the other day.
This young man got shot the other day on my street.
Like, we want this.
unidentified
Yeah.
raymond g stanley-jr
It's good for us.
terrence kentrell williams
Because a lot of those people have lost their grandchildren and children to gun violence.
unidentified
Yeah.
raymond g stanley-jr
It's a whole cause.
It's a whole lie.
It's a bull.
terrence kentrell williams
Caused by gang violence.
unidentified
Yeah.
terrence kentrell williams
And drug dealing in the neighborhood.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
And I mean, this comes back to why people want police.
Why people that are affected by crime want police in their neighborhoods.
terrence kentrell williams
Even criminals need the police because I tell you right now, if Lil Pookey's homie gets shot, Lil Pookey gonna call the police 911.
My homie just got shot.
Can somebody come right now?
We need to help somebody.
Somebody get some help.
My homie just got shot.
Get some help in this motherfucker.
You know, like, they even call the police.
Hello.
Can y'all come get this?
He ain't even had his child soap hole.
unidentified
Oh, hi.
You know, like, I mean, black.
terrence kentrell williams
The people that scream defund, they do need the police at some point, you know?
unidentified
I'm just saying, yeah, like...
raymond g stanley-jr
It's the freaking the up and down.
terrence kentrell williams
Exactly, exactly.
Yeah, yeah, that's true.
raymond g stanley-jr
Sorry, you were saying tape.
tate brown
No, he stole my line versus Oh yeah.
raymond g stanley-jr
Okay, getting down.
tate brown
The baby mama line.
terrence kentrell williams
I saved you from some trouble.
unidentified
That's true.
I appreciate it.
tate brown
You're looking out for me.
phil labonte
Okay, we're going to jump to this story here.
And one of the parts or one of the mentionsable things about this story is the way that Huffington Post framed it and the headline they used.
MAGA, biggest loser star, has meltdown defending white people during CNN slavery talk.
Every single thing is like, Oh no, no, no.
This is all because white people are bad.
And that just not the truth.
Michael said to Abby Phillips, anchor, Gillian Michaels had been fairly, at least friendly with the progressives until COVID.
She's one of the people that when COVID hit, she really had a problem with it.
So we're going to jump into this here from the Huffington Post.
Yeah, it's Huff Post, biggest loser coach and Donald Trump supporter.
They have to point out that she's a Donald Trump supporter.
So that way the reader knows this person is evil.
This person is bad.
We've framed that this person, you're supposed to dislike what this person says.
Biggest loser loser coach and Donald Trump supporter Gillian Michaels had a stunning meltdown Wednesday night while defending white people during a fiery debate about the president's efforts to rewrite US history.
This is in context of just an overall redoing of the way that things with the Smithsonian are framed, and this is something that Donald Trump has talked about and he ran on this, the framing of history so that the United States is a villain in the United States is going to end and it should end, right?
There are plenty of places around the world that hate the United States, right?
And there are definitely ways that you can frame arguments to make the United States look bad.
But the United States, the American people should not be funding things that make America out to be the villain of every story.
terrence kentrell williams
They shouldn't.
And you know what?
phil labonte
And I, yeah, before we get in, before we go, let's listen to this piece on CNN, what they were, what they're actually referring to here.
unidentified
The leader and what the maga can address some of those things.
Because have you looked at some of the things that happened?
Yeah, slavery was a bad thing to talk about.
Okay.
Like, he forgets that.
He's not whitening slavery.
He's not.
He's not.
And you cannot tie imperialism and racism and slavery to just one race, which is pretty much what every single exhibit does.
But let's talk about the fact that when you can't tie slavery to the fact that slavery in America was in the 19th century.
Do you know that only less than two percent of white Americans own slaves?
But it was a system of white surprise.
Do you know that slavery is thousands of years old?
White people own slaves.
And they were the first race to take slavery?
abby phillip
Well, what's controversial?
I'm very surprised.
It was a trend and an exercise in historical racism.
I'm really surprised.
unidentified
Do you realize that?
abby phillip
Gillian, I'm surprised that you're trying to litigate who was the beneficiary of slavery and who was the beneficiary of slavery.
What I'm trying to tell you is in the context of American history, in the context of American history, what are you saying is incorrect by saying that it was white people oppressing white people?
unidentified
Every single thing is like, Oh, no, no, no, this is all because white people bad.
And that's just not the truth.
Like, for example, every single exhibit, I have a list of every single one.
Like, people migrated from Cuba because white people bad.
phil labonte
Not so, and to her point, we're going to bring up something from the Smithsonian.
Now, a lot of people may remember this, but the this is a talk Talking Point paper or I don't know, pamphlet or whatever distributed by the Smithsonian, right?
About whiteness and white culture and the things that they were telling, you know, telling people that were going to the Smithsonian, things that were considered bad, rugged individualism, family structure, emphasis on scientific method, Protestant work ethic, religion, Christianity is the norm.
Anything other than Judeo Christian tradition is foreign.
No tolerance for deviation from single God concept.
That is traditionally the way that, you know, not just white people, but white and black people in America.
I mean, there's a lot of Southern Baptists that are black, right?
Like, absolutely.
That's the way that the, that most Americans conceptualize religion.
Status, power and authority, wealth is, is worth.
Your job is who you are.
Respect authority.
Heavy value on ownership of goods, space, property, future orientation, plan for future delayed gratification.
Progress is always best.
Tomorrow will be better.
Time, follow rigid time schedules.
Timed views as a commodity.
Aesthetics, which 100% based on European culture, steak and potatoes, bland is best.
I don't know.
I don't know about that comes from.
I don't know.
Like me.
I know for what, but I know for a fact, white people fought tons of wars.
raymond g stanley-jr
Pepper.
phil labonte
Just for pepper.
raymond g stanley-jr
Yeah.
phil labonte
So I don't know how that's why.
tate brown
We just wanted to do it because we could show we could.
phil labonte
Women's Beauty based on blonde thin.
I don't know about blonde.
I mean, that is.
You know, I do like thin women.
I do think that it's good to be thin.
To not be overweight.
We were just talking about the fact that 75% of Americans are overweight, 50% of Americans are obese.
And also heart disease and cancer are the two biggest killers in the United States, and both of them are strongly related to obesity.
related to obesity, holidays, justice based on English common law.
There's no debate whether or not the United States laws are based on English common law, protect property entitlements.
If you don't protect property, your society will fall apart.
The very foundation of our society is based on property rights and the very first property that you own is your body and your life.
That's why the government can't take your liberty or your property, including your body, from you without due process.
Intent counts, so it does matter if you're trying to hurt something or trying to do something good.
Competition, winning is important.
Winner loser dichotomy, action orientation, master and control nature must always do something about a situation.
It's a good idea to do things when there's a problem, like do things to fix that.
Communication, the king's English rules.
Yes.
We speak English in the United States and I think that it should be the, the, the only language that any government documents are produced in.
Written tradition, avoid conflict and intimacy.
I don't know how that's whiteness.
Don't show emotion.
Stoicism is there's some value in it for men but not for women.
Don't discuss personal life.
Be polite.
You know, that's a good way to not get a puss in the face.
unidentified
face.
tate brown
I thought the Smithsonian hated white people.
I thought they hated white people.
terrence kentrell williams
This is nauseating.
tate brown
This is this is something.
phil labonte
This is a sketch for how to have a good, productive life, and they're saying that these things are bad.
tate brown
Yeah.
I thought the whole thing was the Smithsonian hated white people.
This is like they're glazing us.
This is great.
unidentified
Unstoppable.
tate brown
No, yeah.
Like the Jillian, I mean, that aside, like, it's beyond, they specifically single out like English, like the Anglosphere.
Like they single out, yeah, Anglo-Americans, WASPs, and they single out the British.
And who are the two countries that, specifically the British Empire was the first to really abolish slavery?
And they fought so many wars to abolishish slavery globally, and the Americans spilled half a million young men's blood to abolish slavery.
And then we're like the only two countries that get singled out for this.
phil labonte
More people died at Gettysburg than died in the, than Americans died in the entire Vietnam War.
Yeah, 54,000 people died.
tate brown
Yeah, we're like single handedly held responsible for slavery.
It's like we're the reason it's abolished.
terrence kentrell williams
It's crazy that slavery, every year slavery is a hot topic.
unidentified
Yeah.
terrence kentrell williams
Something that doesn't exist in America anymore.
unidentified
Yeah.
terrence kentrell williams
It is the hotest topic.
Every year it is one of the hotest topics.
It, it has been abolished.
for I don't know how long, okay?
Slavery has been a part of just mankind.
You know, it's been around thousands of years.
Thousands of years.
I'm not going to lie.
If I was trying to build a country and I didn't have help and I didn't have people wanting to help me and I'm fighting some people.
or I know some people are for there are some slaves that's for sale I'm buying some slaves to help me build my damn country.
That's all I'm saying.
I'm just saying like America needed slaves at the time because they could not, they were not able to.
slave the Native Americans because the Native Americans, they knew the land.
When they would run away, the Europeans don't know where to find them.
They don't know where to find mister running with the wolves.
He, he fast.
raymond g stanley-jr
He ran with the wolves.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
terrence kentrell williams
And a lot of them, and people don't know this too.
You know, I'm from Oklahoma, so we learned a lot about the Native Americans there, you know, because this is the trail of the, you know, the whole trail of tears.
But anyways, a lot of the Native males didn't do crop work.
They didn't do the, which women did all the gardening and the crop, and the males were hunters.
So it was beneath a lot of them to even plant a tomato.
They were not going to, they would rather die.
Some of them rather die than to plant a damn tomato, you know?
So, so they, so I mean, it was, they couldn't slave these Native Americans.
And the Spaniards, you know, the Spaniards were involved in the slave trade heavily.
Oh yeah, yeah.
And they are the ones who introduced the African slaves to the Americans and they started that whole thing.
Why don't you all just buy them?
They're already in chains.
phil labonte
There's something like, and you know, like they are.
terrence kentrell williams
See, people don't want to talk about this.
This is Oh, it's true, right.
unidentified
You're right.
tate brown
We can only blame the English.
terrence kentrell williams
We keep talking about who bought the slaves.
Let's talk about who sold the slaves.
unidentified
Alexandria Ocasio Cortez.
phil labonte
should not be called Cortez.
terrence kentrell williams
Because your AOC, your great grandpa was selling slaves, okay?
raymond g stanley-jr
Yeah.
phil labonte
I mean, like it.
There was like a quarter of a million slaves in the United States, right?
In the, yeah.
Before the, I think, before the country.
Megan Haiti and all those.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah, people don't even understand this, black people, there were some black slave owners as well.
phil labonte
Yeah, oh yeah.
terrence kentrell williams
And I'm trying to find out actively right now.
I'm trying to, if you don't know, people, if you're just coming in, my name is Terrence K. Williams.
I'm trying to find out if somehow I have an ancestor that used to own slaves.
Because it could be some money.
out there for me right now, some inheritance or something.
Because there were black slave owners.
I could come from a black slave owner.
raymond g stanley-jr
All of Harris's past.
terrence kentrell williams
I don't know because I grew up in foster care, so I don't know all, I don't know all of my family history.
But there's a possibility that my great, great, great, great, great, great, great grandfather owned some slaves and I got some inheritance out there somewhere waiting on me.
So if I look like any old black slave owner that you know of, please let me know.
I could be entitled to something.
phil labonte
Something like that.
unidentified
Anthony Johnson was the first slave owner in the United States.
Anthony Johnson was a colony.
raymond g stanley-jr
Black, right?
unidentified
Black guy.
Yeah, yeah.
terrence kentrell williams
What's his last name?
unidentified
Anthony Johnson.
terrence kentrell williams
So there I'm kind to some Johnsons.
I'm going to look into that and I'm going to put a statue up of my great grand grandpapa.
I don't care if he owned slaves.
I'm going to be proud of my great grandpapa.
tate brown
There was a big Irish too.
It's real wild.
Real avant garde.
phil labonte
There was five million slaves in Brazil.
tate brown
Oh, yeah, like, yeah, wow.
phil labonte
No, just in Brazil.
And throughout the Spanish colony of the Spanish colonies, there were slaves.
There were slaves in the Caribbean.
There were slaves everywhere.
All over the planet.
terrence kentrell williams
It was not an American thing.
No, it was and it was normal at the time.
People act like America Americans maybe were the last ones to really do it.
phil labonte
Because there's still slavery in the Middle East.
unidentified
Yeah, there's slavery.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah, there's slavery.
tate brown
Yeah, slavery.
They abolished slavery in the 20th century.
terrence kentrell williams
There's still slavery in America's one of the well, I would say this, we are one of the last ones to be well, we're the greatest country in the world to be doing slavery, you know.
That's why.
Yeah, it was the greatest country.
But anyway, but it was needed at the time.
Listen, I don't agree with slavery period, but it was needed.
If it was needed at the time, they needed the slaves.
It was normal to them.
It was, we're talking about a time.
Everybody back in the day was crazy in my opinion, everybody of all colors, they were all crazy.
I mean, even people back in the day, 500,000 years ago, they were a different breed, you know.
raymond g stanley-jr
500,000 years ago.
terrence kentrell williams
I said 500 to 1000 years ago.
I mean, these are people who would, who would gather around to watch someone being executed in public.
And they're like, Oh my God!
raymond g stanley-jr
Like I just got hanged.
terrence kentrell williams
They're picking up their kids to see it.
Hold on, honey, you don't want to miss it.
He just cut his head off.
Oh my God, that's so.
Oh, today was a great day.
Did you miss the public execution?
Like, I would throw up like watching that, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
terrence kentrell williams
I mean, everyone back then was built differently and slavery was normal, okay?
It was a normal thing.
But let's stop talking about who bought.
Can we talk about it was a it was, um, it was two parties involved, okay?
You can't be angry at the person who bought the slaves only, be angry at those who sold the slaves.
It was called the slave trade, not the slave kidnapping.
Okay?
unidentified
Yeah.
raymond g stanley-jr
It's a good point.
tate brown
It's true.
raymond g stanley-jr
Yeah.
tate brown
Well, I mean, and you can see the barbarism on display of, like, specifically Latin American slavery.
You cited that number.
Four point eight million slaves were imported to Brazil, African slaves versus three hundred eighty thousand imported to the United States.
Yeah.
But today, the African descendants population in America is forty million.
So forty million out of three hundred eighty thousand.
And in Brazil it's about 110 million out of 4.8 million.
So you can see the devastation and the amount of death and churn.
Because like in Brazil, unfortunately, there's a lot of castration involved.
And they would just they didn't view them as an investment.
It was literally just like work until you die.
And in America it was, it's not justifying it, but it's just to blame America and hold us as the purest form of evil.
And then you can look on the same emisphere and see like barbarism that would, I mean, you wouldn't even be able to sleep reading about it.
terrence kentrell williams
If I could go back and change time, I would, I wouldn't change anything.
I don't care if people don't like it.
They don't love how the founding fathers work built this country, but everything they did led to this being the greatest country in the world, okay?
The greatest country.
And I wouldn't change anything.
Because if you change one thing, this would not be the greatest country in the world, okay?
And that happens.
Sometimes people suffer for the greater good.
raymond g stanley-jr
Butterfly effect, this one thing that off subject of slavery, what really got me was individual ruggedness.
Is that what it was?
phil labonte
Rugged individualism.
Yeah.
raymond g stanley-jr
Like there are lots.
Hassan Al Wazen, the Jeez's names are tough.
Matthew Henson, Jane Baptiste Point De Subile.
Like a lot of what are you talking about?
There are a lot of black adventurers and rugged individuals who went and adventured and explored the world.
Like white people are not the only f ⁇ ing people in the whole history of our country to go out there and explore things and find things and then make themselves better and make their family better and live out life and just do things.
It's a real mark on the race of black people.
People are like, oh, you guys never did anything cool.
You guys just sat down on your hands all days, and you didn't actually go out in the land, which you actually did.
phil labonte
And I think that there's, that is one of the main reasons why the United States.
is what it is and why the US has been so successful.
You see the way that the Protestant work ethic has affected the United States versus all of the, and I know that there'll be some people that will be upset about this, but all the Catholics in South America.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
Right?
There's a lot like, all of South America was heavily influenced by the Catholics because Spain and Portugal had the Catholics, you know, that kind of influence because they were, that's where those colonies were.
tate brown
Yeah.
phil labonte
The United States was largely influenced by the Protestants because of WASP, white Anglo Saxon Protestants.
And if you look at Northern Europe, you see a similar result because of that work ethic, right?
So England, Scandinavia, a lot of the Northern Germany.
Northern Germany and the Netherlands.
It's all that same kind of successful societies because of that work ethic.
And that's undeniable.
And it has it, and whether or not people like it, it has nothing to do with being white, because you see a similar work ethic with the Japanese and the Chinese.
raymond g stanley-jr
One hundred percent, yeah.
tate brown
Absolutely.
And you see like even that, even the rugged individualism, like that stems from Protestestantism, that stems from the Puritans, they came over, they were hyper, like hyper Calvinists, because they viewed themselves that they didn't need any intercessor, they viewed themselves as self reliant on God, they viewed themselves as individual, they didn't need any institution.
And that's where the fundamental anti institutionalism of the United States comes from, that's where that individualism comes from, and you're seeing kind of a denial of that today.
But I mean, that's absolutely right, like what you're saying.
phil labonte
Yeah, and not only is it a denial, but it's the total rejection of it or an attempt at a total rejection.
Yeah.
And that's one of the things that will destroy our society is a rejection of things like hard work, saying that, thinking that that is not important.
The idea that you can, you don't have to do, you don't work now, you can postpone it.
That's one of the things that built our country.
And that's one of the things that you see younger generations getting away from.
And that's a terrible thing.
terrence kentrell williams
I see it all the time.
And you know what?
And it's some of the parents' fault too.
And I talked about this with some of my family members when I hear some of my young nephews or cousins say, Well, I'm only eighteen.
I got time.
I can't wait to do this and wait to do that.
I can't wait to get my life together.
I still have.
I hear people on family, Oh, leave him alone.
He's just twenty.
He got time to chase his dreams.
He got time to do this.
Just let him have fun and party and do that.
No, no, he needs to work.
If you're not doing anything at all, just sitting at home partying, smoking, drinking, go get a job, work, do something.
And then they say, well, we shouldn't even really have to work to have water and electricity when you should, when God made light, so why do we have to pay for light?
That's so stupid.
Like, people don't, these, these young, a lot of young people don't want to work.
And I think it's the fault of some of the parents too.
Because they're not instilling that hard work in their children at all.
They're not instilling that in these children.
You know, go to work.
raymond g stanley-jr
And they're like, when do I have to wake up?
Like, oh, can I just wake up when I'm supposed to wake up or go to sleep when I'm supposed to go to go to sleep.
What, you're gonna have, you're gonna have no food?
phil labonte
I think no, you can't.
raymond g stanley-jr
You're right, you can't just, you're not gonna grow crops.
I'm just gonna sleep in late.
So I'm gonna miss these crops this time.
unidentified
They have to.
raymond g stanley-jr
They're just starved to death.
terrence kentrell williams
They, yeah, these, yeah, like they, yeah, they just, they just, like, the work ethic is just, like, one of my, I'll just yell at you.
Yeah, like, no, you can't.
My first foster parent, his name is John Earl Solomon.
This man was born in the 1930s.
He didn't even finish high school.
He dropped out so he can help take care of his siblings, because his parents, I think they passed away or whatever.
So he stepped up to take care of all of his siblings.
It was probably about six of or seven of siblings.
He was working in the cotton fields, working hard, put all of his siblings through college.
raymond g stanley-jr
Oh.
terrence kentrell williams
All of his siblings.
And then put all of his children through college.
He was able to, he worked his butt off.
He was in the cotton fields.
He was selling, he was working at meat factories, doing lawn work, doing everything he could do and put all his siblings through college.
Also, and put all his kids through college, got them all and bought them all land and houses.
And didn't even have an education at all.
Couldn't even read.
But he worked his butt off.
If he can do what these people, people today have no freaking excuse.
tate brown
Yeah.
terrence kentrell williams
No excuse at all.
tate brown
That's what I hate most about this modern iteration of American culture is we've lost that sense of I think this most beautiful description of Americans is that we're like temporarily embarrassed millionaires.
phil labonte
Yeah.
unidentified
Mm hmm.
tate brown
All of us in our heads are millionaires, just some of us are not quite there yet.
And that mentality carried us to greatness and it's getting wiped out in like two generations.
Tragic.
Yeah.
Nothing about modern American life resembles early America in any meaningful way.
And that's devastating.
We need to recapture it before it's gone forever.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, a lot of the I mean, I think that a lot of it has to do with the fact that obviously the 1800s were hard.
tate brown
Sure.
unidentified
Right.
phil labonte
So until the 1900s.
tate brown
And then there was a big shake up in the early 20th century.
phil labonte
And not only that, then you had the Great Depression, which is not just in the U.S., although the U.S. had its fair share of suffering because of it.
But those generations that lived through that stuff lived through real hardship.
And then after that, there hasn't been significant hardship on the same level since.
So the boomers didn't have to deal with it.
generation didn't have to deal with significant hardship and then millennials and gen z haven't had to so there's been no there's been no actual contact with what human history was like prior to, say, World War II, right?
The twentieth century is steeped in blood.
It is an absolute horror show.
More people died at the hands of their own governments than any other century in human existence.
And since 1940 and the end of World War II, since 1945, it has been smooth sailing in the United States, generally, right?
There are times where you're going to say, oh, this was hard and.
and think there was a recession or whatever.
There hasn't been a depression.
There hasn't been twenty percent, twenty five percent unemployment.
There hasn't been a massive, I mean, even COVID, which, you know, the pandemic, right?
Even that wasn't significantly awful.
tate brown
And modernity softened the blow.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
You just sat at home and watched Netflix and didn't see checks.
phil labonte
And people didn't, you know, people weren't dying.
terrence kentrell williams
Oh, and people, people received checks too.
phil labonte
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
unidentified
Okay.
tate brown
It happens in 1920.
There's going to be riots.
The whole country burns down.
It'll be horrible.
terrence kentrell williams
People were not receiving checks.
phil labonte
And the Spanish flu, right.
You know, a lot of people died.
And there were government policies that made it worse.
Here, like all these things.
that basically reminded society or reminded a people what real human life has been like up until basically 1950, none of the generations since had to actually in the in the in the west have had to interact with that at all.
Human existence has been a slog through mud and suffering and death up until about 1950.
And so now we have a society of people, boomers included, that haven't had to deal with real adversity.
There are select few people that have had to deal with hard things in their lives and most of them had to go overseas to deal with it.
So yeah.
raymond g stanley-jr
Are we screwed?
phil labonte
I mean, to be honest with you, like they're the whole, you know, hard men or soft men create hard times.
It's likely that we're in, in, you know, in the soft men part creating hard times.
tate brown
Yeah.
Well, when you feminize a society, you insulate it from any hardship.
I mean, part of the reason you had these massive events taking place before the post, the post world order was because men were risk takers and we would structure our societies and make games with our societies in ways that you don't see now, where now it's as careful and calculated as possible.
So okay.
I mean, yes, there were these obviously these massive.ive blow-ups, the World War is being great examples, but most of these mass, these mass, like these hardships events that we're referring to were just an outcome of societies that took risks and pushed the envelope forward.
And you don't get this 300, 400 years of development that we've seen, you know, post enlightenment really without societies at large taking massive gambles.
And you're going to get conflict.
It's going to happen.
It's natural.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah.
phil labonte
Okay.
We're going to jump to this last story here to wrap up this.
From the AP, Supreme Court allows Mississippi to require age verification on social media like Facebook.
The Supreme Court on Thursday refused for now to block enforcement of a Mississippi law aimed at regulating the use of social media by children, an issue of growing national concern.
The justices rejected an emergency appeal from a tech industry group representing major platforms like Facebook X and YouTube.
Netchoice is challenging laws passed in Mississippi and other states that require social media users to verify their ages and asked the court to keep the measure on hold while a lawsuit plays out.
There were no noted dissents from the brief unsigned order.
wrote that there is a good chance net choice will eventually succeed in showing that the law is unconstitutional, but hadn't shown it must be blocked while the lawsuit unfolds.
Net choice argues that the Mississippi law threatens privacy rights and unconstitutionally restricts the free expression of users of all ages.
A federal judge agreed and prevented the twenty twenty four law from taking effect, but a three judge panel of the Fifth Circuit U. S. Court of Appeals ruled in July that the law could be enforced while the lawsuit proceeds.
It's the latest legal development as court challenges play out against similar laws in states across the country.
Parents and even some teenagers are growing increasingly concerned with the effects of social media use on young people.
Supporters of the new laws have said they are needed to help curb the explosive use of social media among young people and what researchers say is an increase, an associated increase in depression and anxiety.
So do you guys think that this would be a legitimate law that should pass or do you think that it's a bridge too far?
My initial gut instinct is kids shouldn't be on social media.
Right?
Like if you're under 13, you shouldn't be on social media.
I think that it's probably damaging to kids.
I think that parents shouldn't allow their kids to have social media.
Social media from 13 to 16, 17.
I'm not sure if a law is the right way to do it though.
raymond g stanley-jr
Well, what else are we going to do?
terrence kentrell williams
Well, you have now you have children who have YouTube channels.
You look at what's that little it's a famous kid named Ryan's Toys or something.
tate brown
Oh yeah, he's like six.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah, he's like six.
I mean, he's he's been hustling on YouTube since he was like probably three selling toys and playing with toys and have millions of followers.
So I I think if I think kids can have one if their parents if it's under their parents if their parents if the parents are managing their accounts.
You know, I don't think it's any if the parents need to be managing the accounts.
But I don't think it's I don't think it's, I mean, I'm not against kids not using the internet.
I don't think they should be on there.
I mean, look at X. X allows a lot.
It's a lot of porn on X, you know?
And people are allowed to post porn on X. Elon has not banned porn on X. It is freedom of speech on there, you know?
So if, so anybody can get on there, 13, 12, 5 years old, believe it or not, 5-year-olds know how to get on the internet.
They can get on and watch whatever they want.
phil labonte
There's a.
terrence kentrell williams
And they shouldn't be able to do that if it's porn on, if it's porn on there that you can watch without wanting age.
phil labonte
Also, the argument that if you have to have some kind of age verification, it does away with anonymity.
And now, whether or not you think it's a good thing to do away with anonymity, it does prevent people from making ghost accounts or making bot accounts.
It is likely that you could assume that accounts are actually people.
in the future if there has to be age verification or at least you'd know or there would be some way to know and i personally think that that's a good thing too now again i'm not saying that there should be legislation that that people have to you know, that I don't think the government needs to get involved, and I'm not sure the means to do it without.
terrence kentrell williams
I think this should be a state issue.
phil labonte
But I do think that in the future, if we're talking about dead internet theory all the time, and we're concerned with whether or not accounts that are on the internet are actually people, this might be a way to make sure that they are people.
tate brown
Well, I'm very skeptical of age verification because, like, something people don't understand is everyone's getting really excited about Gen Z swinging to the right, especially Gen Z men.
Well, if they didn't have internet access and anon accounts, that's not happening.
That's going to be just another Democrat generation, just like the millennials..
So it's like, I understand the motive.
I'm not saying people, especially in Mississippi, because Mississippi is a great state.
I'm not speculating these people of malicious intent.
I think they actually are trying to look out for children.
But you need to understand that access to information when you're a teenager is what is creating such a right wing reaction among young people that matriculation does not occur because they're just going to be exposed to what they see at public school.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah.
raymond g stanley-jr
Well, it's a balance.
It's a balance between like the Annons who want to go and turn right compared to the government overreach.
phil labonte
To your point, are social media sites the same thing in your estimation as sites like 4chan because the phenomenon you're talking about got it start on 4chan, but the average zoomer right winger he saw a based edit on Instagram and then he was like I want that.
tate brown
Trump's too far left.
phil labonte
So do you think that that something like 4chan is a different animal or do you think that it's a social that counts as a social media?
tate brown
4chan's kind of lost its aura a little bit.
phil labonte
That's why I'm not specific, I'm not specific, like going specific message boards and stuff.
Things like that.
Do you think that message boards are the same thing as social media?
tate brown
Well, they're not the same thing and I mean, I think that.
phil labonte
So far as this legislation would go or this kind of thing would go is the point that I'm making.
tate brown
I think so it would be mostly apps, like the verification would take place during apps because it needs to be an established LLC that can process ID verification or contract someone that can process the ID verification.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah, I mean, I guess some people might think that it is an invasion of privacy.
You might have some people who want to make an account and they want to dunk on people and say crazy stuff.
And then, you know, they may not want their identity, they may not want X or Facebook to know their identity.
Now, is there a way?
I would not be opposed to this at all.
Is maybe there is no, there's always a way.
When there's a will, there's a way.
It's always a way.
All this technology is possible.
For instance, if people are, if people don't want their kids seeing certain things on the internet, okay?
Like, for instance, there are like some of these OnlyFan models that are all over the internet, right?
Because that is a big thing, porn on the internet, okay?
I don't think this is where some of this is coming from as well.
tate brown
Absolutely.
terrence kentrell williams
Porn being on the internet.
So if an account is actually posting porn, nudes, videos, maybe there is a way for X or Facebook to have a, I don't know, what they may not, people may not like that, an age verification if you want to view a page that's full of nudity.
Well, I mean, yeah, I mean, you know, some people may say, oh, no no, I don't want to watch it.
Then that means you are watching that page then.
Because if you're not watching that, then you don't care.
So we know who cares if they're against that.
But I wouldn't be opposed to that at all.
And that means allowing the youth to be on the internet by marking.
Now, don't be marking political pages for if you want to view Tim Poole's page, you gotta show age verification because he said, because he's full of conspiracy theorists.
phil labonte
And he said, It goes without saying though.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah, I think only for nudity accounts.
tate brown
Well, yeah, I mean, well, one workaround, I mean, I think this actually is achvable in the next few years is just a direct banning of pornography.
That would be fantastic.
That would solve all our problems.
The other thing, I mean, there's so much at play here.
Like keeping an anonymity on the internet is essential.
Because, for example, people are so thankful that this is the most conservative presidential administration we've seen in a long, I mean, certainly in the modern era, and you have to credit that to Twitter anons because you see, you'll see a discussion happen on Twitter.
There'll be an argument, you know, whatever.
And there's movers and shakers watching that.
And then three months later, the Trump administration, you start hearing talks that there's officials that are entertaining these ideas.
Like the federalization of DC, this was being argued on Twitter about three months ago by people with anon accounts and goofy profile pictures.
So it's like, it's people that have really nice, these are smart guys that have well paying jobs and families that can't risk getting, you know, their lives destroyed.
So they have to maintain an anonymity.
And so that's essential.
I understand the privacy concerns of the AIG verification, but I mean, are you concerned when you give, you know, a gas station clerk your ID?
I mean, they scan it.
Who knows where that's going?
phil labonte
So I it's, I think I've said this in the show.
I think that the idea of privacy is more an idea that's kind of passe.
Yeah.
And not, this isn't, this is again for all the people that are going to take this and get all worked up because I'm saying it.
This isn't something that I endorse.
This is just something that I think is a reality nowadays.
I think the idea of internet privacy is actually gone.
I think that people like to talk about it and they like to think that they have privacy, but then they pump all their information into Instagram, pump all their every, they pump in all that you need to know to actually find out who they are.
Shia LeBouff.
got found in the middle of nowhere because of contrails when he took a picture of a flag.
He took a picture of just a flag.
And there were it was just blue sky behind it and they found him.
Yeah.
And it was 4chan found him.
And it wasn't weeks later.
It was it was very fast.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah.
I don't think so.
phil labonte
So the idea of privacy, if you're taking pictures of anything, anything at all.
I saw one, I saw one of those, a video of some dude that figured out where a woman was because she took a picture of grass.
unidentified
Oh yeah.
tate brown
It was a, yeah.
Rainbow, I think is his name.
Yeah.
And he can like find anything anywhere, anything.
raymond g stanley-jr
And you lick.
You lick like a pole and he'll go out there and get the DNA test.
phil labonte
He'll find out exactly where I saw there were people on four chan that were helping call in strikes on Russians.
Yeah.
So as much as people like to say, I, you know, and not, and, you know, anonymity is important to me, you're only anonymous if people don't care.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah.
phil labonte
If people care, they're going there, and you put pictures, if you don't do anything except for using one account that never puts up pictures from the real world, maybe.
But most people don't have that kind of privacy.
tate brown
And also the, the Intel community has relationships with the journalists, everyone knows this.
And that's a lot of these anons.
get doxed is the intelligence agencies will pass along the information to a journalist and then the journalist will come up with a way of how they genially they broke it.
I think it's happened to Rawl Egg Nationalists.
phil labonte
And yeah, so it's like it is important to have anonymity and whatnot, but if you really are a big threat, you know, the intelligence will pass it along to a journalist and then, you know, And to be honest with you, considering the fact that AI is still in its infancy, like, once AI gets to a certain level of, of, of ability, once you get an AI that can really digging, it doesn't take, you know, the autist on four chan any more.
They'll feed, they'll literally feed in two pictures from this account say where is this account from and the AI will be able to find it.
tate brown
I definitely understand why people are annoyed with the anons because it's like, okay, the world I'm in that I'm plugged into is like there's a lot of these guys that seem like well meaning and they're smart and they have a lot of fun.
But you go into any influencer, I mean, you've probably seen it.
You go into any influencer, there's just these vicious people that don't put their names out there because they're too scared to get behind what they say.
And they just rip people all day long.
So it's like, I also understand why people get frustrated at the anon accounts because it's just people that are cowardly.
It's just some people, just haters.
phil labonte
Just in the chat, there are people that are talking about, you know, like people have threatened me in the chat.
People have talked about there was someone that was talking about like, who wants Phil's address?
tate brown
Sure.
phil labonte
They're going to dox me.
tate brown
You have to take the good with the bad, what they have.
terrence kentrell williams
I have a message that I received that I posted on Instagram.
I want to read it and during the aftershow.
It is okay.
It is some message.
It was it was.
raymond g stanley-jr
It was a splendid time.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah.
But, and I know that person would not want to put in their identification.
unidentified
Yeah.
raymond g stanley-jr
So, so for the kids, I don't know how to, I don't know how to fix the situation, but kids, you know, a young kid, six years old, having his toy thing is whatever it is, fine, whatever.
I don't know, but it does.
Research has shown that it's bad for kids..
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah.
tate brown
I mean, I've had Twitter.
I've had Twitter accounts since I was 12 years old.
terrence kentrell williams
I mean, this could fix the issue too.
raymond g stanley-jr
You heard that okay.
terrence kentrell williams
If you have a child, don't let them on the internet.
Don't give them phones.
unidentified
Huh?
raymond g stanley-jr
The parents.
terrence kentrell williams
Sometimes it's up to the parents too.
raymond g stanley-jr
Well, yeah, sure.
Sure.
We don't need the state, the government to be like, yo, you can't do this.
tate brown
Well, yeah.
terrence kentrell williams
Parent, you have to buy the phone.
tate brown
I agree.
unidentified
That 12-year-old can't buy no phone?
terrence kentrell williams
You put the internet on there.
tate brown
Right.
terrence kentrell williams
I mean, you can, you can, they even have options where you can, where you can, uh, lock them too.
Yeah, where you can lock certain apps.
Yeah.
So some of the parents are allowing this.
They don't, some of them.
raymond g stanley-jr
All the parents are allowing this.
unidentified
Yes.
tate brown
It just seems like outsourcing this to to the state seems a bit redundant.
And then also, like I said, I don't trust the motive behind it.
Because I think a large, and I think this was a big part of the TikTok ban is they're trying, there's a huge containment breach of ideas, right?
People don't want to vote for Mitt Romney anymore.
And they have to figure out a way to push everyone back into a box.
And a big part of that is limiting online discourse.
And a lot of teenagers, I mean, it's really bad for children to be on the internet, but a lot of teenagers, 16, 17, that's when you start being exposed to like conservative thought.
That's when you start seeing turning point events.
terrence kentrell williams
I'm not gonna lie.
I've considered making an A and Nine account.
I've considered that.
I've considered, I've considered making a troll account myself.
I'd be willing to say some things I can't say on my personal page.
I'd be willing to go.
unidentified
Cousin W. I have considered it.
phil labonte
Make children normal again.
tate brown
Real.
phil labonte
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representatives that are going to show up for work tomorrow.
tate brown
Yeah, I mean they're threatening checks and you know., a lot of these Texas, well, just state reps in general, actually don't make very much money.
And a lot of them do depend on those checks.
So dangling the checks over their head, actually might draw a good amount of them back.
It already is drawing a good amount of them back.
raymond g stanley-jr
I've been, I've been doing some stuff, blue collar stuff, and I haven't been on the news, I'm not seeing anything, but I did see that they passed the redistricting.
So I assumed that they came back, but I found out today with you guys, they didn't come back.
terrence kentrell williams
The Democrats want to be arrested because they believe that they would love to have handcuffs on them.
They are going to run with that.
I mean, you would, we would not hear the end of it.
The President of the United States is arresting his opponents.
He is not, he is a true dictator and a bunch of them, you got some of them that are black, the black ones, they really are going to run it up.
I mean, they're going to get so many donations, it's going to be crazy.
phil labonte
Do you know, do you know any of the, the Texas Democrats that have fled?
And if you do, do you think they're talented enough to capitalize on the attack?
terrence kentrell williams
Absolutely.
They need something.
They're desperate for something.
phil labonte
No, no, but do you think they're talented enough to capitalize on it?
Obviously, it will get them attention, but will they be able to use, are they politically talented enough to take that attention and turn it into something meaningful that will take them out of own only Texas politics and put them onto the national stage and will they have staying powers?
raymond g stanley-jr
Like a certain person, maybe, or two.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think some of them are talented enough to do that.
That is what they've been doing for a very long time, turning nothing into something, you know, they know how to do that.
They know how to do that.
And CNN and MSNBC are going to help them.
phil labonte
Yeah.
terrence kentrell williams
They're going to help them.
I think they would, I don't know of any, not all of them, but they're going to help them, you know?
phil labonte
Yeah.
I don't know of any, I don't know the names in particular, but this would be an opportunity.
where that that if they're politically savvy, they could turn it into a national.
terrence kentrell williams
They all want a Trump moment.
They all want to be arrested because, you know, they thought it would hurt Trump and it helped him.
phil labonte
But now they all but the point that I'm making is you can't just like just getting on the stage.
Yeah.
doesn't mean you perform well.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah.
phil labonte
Like so I had this experience in my in my career as a musician.
We wanted to get on this one big tour called Ozfest and we had the opportunity and our agent was like, don't do it.
And I was like, what you do Ozfest and that means you are a big band after that.
But with the year that we got the first offer, we didn't have a new product to sell.
So what we, what our agent said is, go back into the studio, do your next record, your label, he's like, I'll bet you get an offer next year.
You gotta trust me, but your label will then have a new record to promote, et cetera.
And it was, and I was like, all right, this seems like a terrible idea to me because I didn't understand, but we got the opportunity the next year, we did it, and we had all of our ducks in a row to capitalize one on the attention that we got.
I don't know if the Democrats have any people that can capitalize on that kind of attention.
terrence kentrell williams
They're going to try to.
phil labonte
Yes, agree.
terrence kentrell williams
They're going to that doesn't mean they're going to, uh, they're going to succeed, but they but I do believe they're all going to try to do that.
You know, there was a time that Gavin Newsom was begging to be arrested.
You know, not too long ago he was saying, Arrest me.
I'm ready to be arrested.
Come arrest me.
What are you going to do?
Arrest me.
Come arrest me.
Like they want to be arrested because because yeah, they want to be arrested because then it's going to in their minds, it's going to prove their point that the Republicansan Party is a dangerous party and they want to arrest their, they are dictators who want to jail and threaten their opponents.
Like, it's, yeah, it's.
tate brown
It's great marketing.
You can raise a lot of money by being Trump's enemy singled me out.
terrence kentrell williams
And some of them, all they do is just want to raise money.
tate brown
Yeah.
Some of them, I mean, think you're just a measly representative in the Texas State.
This is your big breakthrough if you get arrested.
terrence kentrell williams
Exactly.
phil labonte
You got it.
tate brown
Expedo.
terrence kentrell williams
It's their chance.
phil labonte
Yeah.
Gary G says, caught Creed live last night based watching IRL tonight while running on a treadmill, even more based., gotta love that.
Get those steps in.
Trader Potato says, Yo Phil, what are the thoughts, are your thoughts on Mustaine and Megadeth announcing their retirement?
I didn't expect Dave to go on forever, but still, my sadness is immeasurable.
I tell you what, I think that like so most of you guys know we got the opportunity to tour with Megadeth last year.
We did two months worth of touring with him.
Dave was not only an absolute gentleman, he was one of the most accommodating people that I've ever had the privilege of touring with.
He's a great guy.
His family are great.
His son is Justice is the manager and I saw Justice around a bunch on the tour.
He was great.
They were so incredibly cordial and accommodating to all that remains.
So I got nothing but good things to say about Dave.
I'm super happy that I got the chance to tour with him before he's decided to, you know, to retire.
Look, Dave has had cancer.
The guys in Megadeth are, you know, they're all in their late fifties or almost all of them are in their late fifties or early sixties.
Dave is, I think, he's like 62.
So, I mean, look, he's decided to bow out when he still sounds great, when he still performs great.
So that way everybody remembers Megadeth when they were, you know, firing on all cylinders.
I wish that, you know, I wish that time didn't do what time does, but, you know, it's.
But I don't think that you can have a more illustrious career, or there are only a handful of bands that have had a more illustrious career than Megadeth, and there are very few people that have had the impact on heavy metal that Dave Mustaine has had.
I mean, the guy wrote some of the best songs that Metallica plays, right?
Like some of the stuff off Kill'Em All and a bunch of things off Ride the Lightning.
That was Dave Mustaine that wrote it.
So I can't say enough good things about Megadeth, and he will absolutely be sorely missed.
raymond g stanley-jr
People age and get old.
phil labonte
Yep.
raymond g stanley-jr
God damn you whiteness.
tate brown
Really?
phil labonte
We do.
Let's see.
Bike Curious George says, Here's my obligatory rumble ramp for having a baby.
Congratulations.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
Yeah.
My wife had our first baby, Elizabeth Libby, eight pounds seven ounces at 8:40 this morning.
Everyone is healthy.
That's great news.
Congratulations.
As soon as your wife is feeling up to it, make another one.
tate brown
That's right.
phil labonte
Make more babies.
raymond g stanley-jr
The baby's name is Libby?
phil labonte
The baby's name is Libby, yeah, Elizabeth.
tate brown
Eat your baby.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
Awesome.
Thank you very much.
Tell your wife we we wish her the best.
We wish you both the best.
Make more babies.
You're doing a great service.
tate brown
You're sending reinforcements.
raymond g stanley-jr
I was like, as soon as you're done, as soon as you're ready to go.
phil labonte
As soon as she can.
I mean, look.
tate brown
The story is coming.
All these patriots are having babies.
It's beautiful.
phil labonte
Sarah and I are already a plan, like, worked out once she's had the baby.
We've got a plan for when the next baby will be coming.
We have some stuff that we have to handle first, but you know.
raymond g stanley-jr
Sure, that's cool.
phil labonte
Sheargal?
Sheargal?
I guess?
They're going to claim those twelve point four million dead recipients were voting and donating to Act Blue for decades.
I mean, look, man, that's one of the good reasons or one of the good things about cleaning up these roles is you can get rid of the abuse.
You know, when people talk about getting rid of the waste, fraud and abuse, this is the abuse they're talking about.
Let's see.
LadyTite says, I've said this many times, but boomers and Gen X have single handedly ruined this country by letting politicians get away with everything and hoarding all the country's wealth.
breeding nepo babies yeah okay i mean it doesn't matter whose fault it is at this point we just got to fix it yeah everything needs to be fixed it doesn't matter whose fault it is let's just get to work i mean positivity It is true to say that boomers and Gen X are causing a problem about fixing stuff, right?
because they're not voting.
They're voting to not Yeah, obstructing the necessary cuts and stuff.
So it is legitimate to say that the Boomers did that.
I'm not sure if the Boomers did...
I personally think that, you know, when you took the dollar off the gold standard, you know, and allowed for the government to just, you know, print up as much money, regardless of how much gold there was out there.
So the Federal Reserve is actually the fundamental problem because that's where, you know, and that goes all the way back to 1913.
That was a silent generation.
raymond g stanley-jr
So let's keep this generation going and get this right here and I'll take the blame for not paying attention to politics as a Gen X or last last year, Gen X or because life was so good in the eighties, nineties and two thousand.
unidentified
So yeah, yeah, yeah.
raymond g stanley-jr
I didn't know.
I didn't know how bad it was until it got bad.
phil labonte
Micah Dot Johnson says, Gen Z here, I'm far past worrying about social security.
I've given up all hope of ever seeing a cent to the point it doesn't even cross my mind.
If you're married, live on one income and save the rest.
Look man, that is a great ans, that is a great, that is great advice, but it's not that simple because what the government is going to do is inflate the currency.
They're going to print and that's going to affect you.
So you may never see social security, but the government is going to ruin the value of your dollar.
raymond g stanley-jr
Ouch.
phil labonte
And it's possible, now I don't, I don't know that it will happen, but it's possible that the government just blows up the whole dollar and totally, right?
Like if they start printing money, you know, start.
If they start printing money like hyperinflation kind of money, right?
You're talking about the whole world deciding that they don't trust the United United States anymore and that tends to turn into wars.
So these kind of problems are bigger than just, oh, you know, we won't be able to pay our bills.
If we default, a lot cause that will cause a lot of problems globally because we are the global hegemon and we have the world's reserve currency.
If we start printing money beyond what we've already done, start really getting crazy, not that it's not crazy now, countries are going to start saying, we're never getting our money back from the government, from the, from the federal government.
So we might as well call in our debt now.
That kind of stuff will inspire, you know, governments to do really, really crazy bad things.
And that's the kind of stuff that starts world wars.
So it's not as much as I understand your point, and I agree with you, it goes beyond that.
And it'll have a negative effect on not just the United States, but probably the whole world.
raymond g stanley-jr
So we go from M1 to M2, and then we're going to hit M3.
And that's going to be the, you know, yeah.
phil labonte
You know, Spooky Toucan says, big thanks to Serge, Tate, and Phil for great takes, fact checks on Christianity last night.
Hope all is well for Tim and Pham.
Well done to the team for holding down the fort.
Luke Rudkowski is amazing too.
Luke Rudkowski is amazing.
terrence kentrell williams
Okay.
phil labonte
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure what he's amazing at, but he is amazing.
We love Luke.
He's great, but we appreciate it.
Thank you.
And really, you should really like, it's actually Tate and Serge that really deserve the credit.
I piped in a little bit on some of the stuff that I knew, but like, those guys are the real ones pushing back.
tate brown
It sucks because the clip that's getting passed around, it's like they cut me and Serge's like dunking.
But I don't know, maybe we should have gone in earlier.
raymond g stanley-jr
We should have gone in earlier.
phil labonte
We got him good though.
tate brown
We let him cook.
We made it.
terrence kentrell williams
He just didn't make the cut, buddy.dy.
tate brown
He made his case.
He blasphemed Christ in the process and we had to step in.
phil labonte
I mean, is it just me or does that, should that bit have been on Inverted World?
I really feel like that was probably more, more, more appropriate for Inverted World because that kind of, you know, it's not, it's not your typical religious talk, it's a lot of that bit should have been for a therapist.
unidentified
Ridiculous.
tate brown
He's bringing her penny bags.
We have to get out of here.
Go test her.
phil labonte
All right, let's see.
Let's see.
562 Micah says, you thinking the redistricting will not pass.
You are completely ignorant of how crazy the people who will vote out here.
I mean, maybe, you know.
tate brown
We're just going off polls.
phil labonte
So yeah, I mean, I could be wrong.
tate brown
Is it worse on the?
Let us know.
Is it on the ground?
Are people actually saying they're going to vote for it?
I mean, that'd be interesting.
terrence kentrell williams
What they, there's a saying, don't mess with Texas.
phil labonte
And I'm Oh, he's talking about California.
terrence kentrell williams
Oh, California.
tate brown
Yeah.
Because they have to in California, the voters have to approve of redistricting because they have an independent commission.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah, I don't know how that's going to work.
tate brown
Yeah, because the polls say it's 60-40, but yeah, you can't count out liberals.
That's to do something really stupid.
terrence kentrell williams
So it could pass.
You never know.
Anything could happen.
Anything is possible.
You know, I'm not the type that says, you know, well, I will say never with AOC being the president.
of the United States of America.
But I will say, but I normally don't say never, because anything is possible.
phil labonte
Jason Dixon says, Where's Tim?
That way.
gavin newsom
He's over there.
tate brown
He's out beyond yonder on yonder.
phil labonte
So, eating.
terrence kentrell williams
Don't worry.
I said the same thing when I came here.
Where's Tim?
unidentified
Yeah.
That guy.
raymond g stanley-jr
I said, How are you doing, buddy?
He's like, I don't even fuck with him.
tate brown
He's resting up.
He's resting.
terrence kentrell williams
He's sick.
phil labonte
It's, it's, it's, you know, I mean, the guy's guy normally works like five days a week in the morning and at night.
So, you know, he gets sick and he's like, Okay, I'm actually going to take some time off.
tate brown
Because it also shows how hard he grinds as he has his like two days and like the world's like.
terrence kentrell williams
That's treasonist.
unidentified
What?
raymond g stanley-jr
Yeah.
And you heard his voice the other day.
Like you knew I heard on IRA.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah.
tate brown
You could, like, you know, so you've been matching, like, barely his schedule and I'm, like, exhausted for like two days.
raymond g stanley-jr
But you have been getting it in.
phil labonte
For for for a long time Tim did everything by himself.
Like he was he was doing the morning and night and there was no one that would come that could come in to cover for him.
When I came on when I started working here, like one of the reasons was so I could cover for Tim so that way he could do other things.
And you've got Tate here who can handle the morning show and then me, Tate and the crew here can handle the evening show.
So it's it's not like he's never coming the taking the rest that he needs.
Remember, he was doing the morning show and the evening show and he did the culture war for and he was doing the I think he went to the after shows, the after parties at the culture war.
So he's working six days a week.
tate brown
He's doing other press.
phil labonte
Yeah, and he's doing other things so that like it takes a toll on your body.
Believe me, when, when, you know, when all that remains is touring and and I'm doing an hour set like during the day, I'm not talking at all.
I'm, I'm, and I'm going to bed right after the show.
I don't go out at, I would never go out after the show and go to the bars and stuff like that.
I couldn't do that because I wouldn't be able to talk.
Never mind, sing or scream.
It really does take a toll, so he has to get the rest that he needs.
He'll he'll go ahead and he'll take the weekend free and I don't know if he's doing anything tomorrow or whatever, but he's not going to be here.
He'll be off tomorrow and we'll be handling the show, but he'll be back, but he has to get rest, you know, he's only human.
tate brown
But that dude hates not working, he's he's he's mad right now that he's not working, like they do grind.
phil labonte
That's another thing, not just because he's not on camera doesn't mean he's not working.
He's still in the stage.
tate brown
He's messed up.
phil labonte
Yeah, he's still talking and putting, coming up with ideas for for what the segments should be.
He's still directing what's going on.
He's just not talking on camera now.
So he's taken the time off that he needs, but he'll be back.
raymond g stanley-jr
It also says a lot about the IRL and everyone, like from like a couple of years ago, like it was just him.
And now he's able at that point, that success that we're all here, that he's able to take time and heal up.
Go team.
phil labonte
Mark the Shane says YouTube ID verification begins tomorrow.
raymond g stanley-jr
Well, I'll shoot.
phil labonte
I mean, maybe that's going to be the future, you know?
tate brown
Yeah.
There'll be a service that gets away, somehow gets around it, kind of like ad block.
raymond g stanley-jr
We could invest in that company because it's probably going to blow up.
tate brown
We'll probably go to jail.
Yeah, sure.
raymond g stanley-jr
He's an NN name.
tate brown
Yeah, exactly.
There you go.
Ray.
Hey Steven.
phil labonte
There you go.
John Hoyle says they'll run governor Maura Healy in 2028, already astroterphing her and she's getting visits from large funders.
Maura Healy, what state is she from?
raymond g stanley-jr
Maura Healy.
unidentified
I don't know.
I have no idea.
raymond g stanley-jr
Is that Texas?
Do they know by chance?
phil labonte
No, that's Greg Abbott.
unidentified
Yeah, Greg Abbott.
raymond g stanley-jr
Oh, you're talking about the Maine lady?
tate brown
Oh, no, no.
She's the governor of Massachusetts.
Yeah, yeah, she's currently terrible.
Yeah, yeah.
raymond g stanley-jr
Oh, yeah, she's Masha Shusha.
tate brown
She's awful.
unidentified
Masha Shusha.
phil labonte
Yeah, she is.
raymond g stanley-jr
The white lady with the short grace.
phil labonte
Yeah, yeah.
She's currently the governor of Massachusetts.
I am not a fan of Massachusetts laws or their politicians.
terrence kentrell williams
Masha Shusha.
phil labonte
So much that I left a lot of years ago.
And I'm not going back, only to visit my mom.
And do you know what I'm saying?
raymond g stanley-jr
I would never leave the white lady.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah, I would never, for the simple fact I can barely pronounce it.
phil labonte
Okay, guys.
So smash the like button, share the show with everyone you know.
Terrence, you have anything you want to shout out?
terrence kentrell williams
Yes, I do.
You can follow me at X on X and you know X is to sound like a porn site.
Follow me on X. We call it.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
Other times we call it.
terrence kentrell williams
Follow me on X, formerly known as Twitter, Facebook, Instagram at Terrence K. Williams.
If you're hungry, go to cousin tees dot com and get you some pancakes and some chicken or whatever you want.
Do them, but do them ten thousand steps though, every day.
Do them ten thousand steps.
raymond g stanley-jr
Follow me on the X, the porn side X. I am Israel Mitchie Stanley Jr.
I always enjoy having a good time here and we have a great time.
tate brown
Yeah, you can follow me on Instagram and X at Realtate Brown.
Come hang out.
phil labonte
All right, I am Phillip Remains on Twix and the band is all the time.
And the band is all that remains.
You can check us out on YouTube, Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora, Spotify and Deezer.
Don't forget the left lane is for crime.
We'll see you guys tomorrow, right here.
Tate will be running the morning show, I believe.
I will.
unidentified
There's no morning show on Friday, so I'm Oh, no, yeah, just the culture war.
phil labonte
Tune in to the culture war.
It will be, it's the Marvin It's a feminist one.
Yeah, it's Myron Gaines and Kayla whatever.
unidentified
Dane is.
Cat Timf.
phil labonte
Oh, whatever.
Destiny Sweeper, the chick that was sweeping up.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Can you do the ad?
tate brown
Yeah, I'm just joking.
phil labonte
Cat, yeah.
Cat Timf.
tate brown
Oh, miss it.
phil labonte
It's awesome.
And I think the Bold Lib was there too, right?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
phil labonte
On stage.
tate brown
There were some cameos.
phil labonte
Awesome.
raymond g stanley-jr
It was fun.
tate brown
I don't want to spoil all of them.
There's some good cameos.
phil labonte
Tomorrow, 11 a.m.
raymond g stanley-jr
Definitely cool.
phil labonte
The Culture War.
And then right back here tomorrow night for IRL.
We will see you guys tomorrow.
unidentified
We will see you tomorrow.
We will see you tomorrow.
We will see you tomorrow.
Give it a second.
Thank you.
phil labonte
We are from the alternative press YouTube to begin testing a new AI powered age verification system in the US Apparently this is starting tomorrow so YouTube on Wednesday will begin test oh Today?
unidentified
I mean at midnight tomorrow today on Wednesday.
phil labonte
Yeah, I don't know Yeah, that's kind of YouTube on Wednesday will begin testing a new age verification system in the US that relies on artificial intelligence to differentiate between adults and minors based on the kinds of videos that they have been watching.
The tests initially will only affect a sliver of YouTube's audience in the US, but it will likely become more pervasive if the system works as well as at guessing viewers age as it does in other parts of the world.
And see, this is what I was talking about.
As AI becomes more ubiquitous, you're not going to be able to hide.
Yeah.
Whether they're going by what you're clicking on or what you're looking at or photos you upload or what have you, like it is just going to be AI doing all of the things that the autists do now.
Yeah.
tate brown
Yeah, that's true.
Yeah.
I mean, like we're getting to a point point now where if you value anonymity, you don't want to go anywhere near the internet.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
This isn't the nineties anymore.
Like, unfortunately, even the cabin in the woods, I mean, there's satellite images that's like being updated 24 hours a day.
I mean, it's kind of, I mean, like, I hate, I don't want to down because it's really important, you should value anonymity, you should value your data protection.
So I'm not saying you should black pill.
We're just trying to assess the situation accurately.
phil labonte
Dude, I think that the generation after your generation, the generation of kids that you guys have, all like 45 of them, like in total.
tate brown
I know like three of them.
phil labonte
They're not going to have any desire for anonymity.
tate brown
Yeah, I mean, I don't even know if, yeah, it might even be that way with Zoomers to some degree.
I mean, like, I found out this is a generational divide that all my friends that are older from older generations find very strange.
And this is very common at Zoomers.
Is you know the Find Your Friends app?
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
We all use that.
We all use that with our friends.
So, like, I have like twenty of my boys on there.
phil labonte
The only person that is on that I use that with is Sarah.
tate brown
Right.
phil labonte
And that's my pregnant girlfriend.
tate brown
Right.
And most people don't even have their, their significant other on there.
So it's like, that's a huge, and most Zoomers I know use the app for that reason.
phil labonte
For their friends.
terrence kentrell williams
With the on my.
tate brown
Because we grew up with the Snapchat map.
So it's like the same thing.
terrence kentrell williams
Yeah, that's what Instagram has now.
tate brown
And Instagram.
raymond g stanley-jr
Yeah.
tate brown
Which they turn, by the way, they don't tell you they turn it on.
So if you don't want that on, go check your settings.
raymond g stanley-jr
All the dysopian, dystopian movies that we've watched, you know, and as children is it's all going to be, it's what it's going to be.
Everyone's going to be living in cities.
It's all, it's all going to come to fruition.
We have neon lights in these cities.
No one's going to be able to know.
Everyone's going to know who they are.
Everyone's going to be on the map.
They're going to be in the system.
tate brown
Yeah.
raymond g stanley-jr
There's minority report.
It's going to be, that's what's going to happen here in like, you know, fifty years, maybe a hundred.
tate brown
I would take the Blade Runner City.
raymond g stanley-jr
What happened?
tate brown
So Soil and Green is people.
raymond g stanley-jr
Oh, yeah.
I'm waiting people.
tate brown
I would take the Blade Runner City.
That'd be pretty cool.
I'm more afraid that we're going to look like Brazil.
Brazil with ChatGPT.
That's all I'm afraid.
phil labonte
Favelas?
tate brown
Yeah, it's going to be favelas.
Like you don't, I mean, just like everyone's looking at it.
unidentified
It's like a carnival dude.
tate brown
It's speak weird.
phil labonte
pods stacked on top of each other.
tate brown
And the only sport you can play is soccer.
raymond g stanley-jr
Oh, no.
phil labonte
Why soccer is the favorite sport, right?
It's poor people's sport.
It's just a ball.
There's no equipment.
tate brown
So it's like, look, I really, I would actually love a Blade Runner future.
That'd be sick.
I'm afraid we're just gonna get, yeah, we're just gonna get Brazil, but with DoorDash and ChatTPT.
phil labonte
So you don't think that, you don't think there's Replicants coming?
tate brown
Or are they only gonna be No, it's gonna be Replicants.
They'll be homeless because of the economy.
Continue change, fair change.
phil labonte
That's not, have you ever seen Blade Runner?
Yeah, yeah.
tate brown
That's not what Replicants can't tell.
They call them skin jobs, which is like a good slur, I think.
Look at your standard.
phil labonte
Tinskins is a good one.
tate brown
Yeah.
No, yeah.
Blade Runner's Blade Runner, I think Blade Runner, the Gosling one is even better than the original.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, maybe.
The idea of a dystopian future that basically most of the dystopian futures that you see in sci-fi movies are better than what is likely to result.
tate brown
It's going to look kind of like life now, but just worse with more ease for really mundane things like food delivery or Google search.
Like you're not going to get flying ships or anything.
raymond g stanley-jr
Are we going to be super authoritarian?
phil labonte
No, it's going to be a mix between it's not going to be Big Brother.
It's going to be a mix of Brave New World and Big Brother.
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