May 24, 2025 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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| The video has been released, my friends. | ||
| That judge that helped that criminal alien escape, yeah, they got the video footage and it's been publicly released, which is surprising considering there's a criminal case going on. | ||
| But I don't know how she's actually going to argue she's not guilty because she's on camera sneaking out a criminal alien. | ||
| And so while it's one thing when the government issues a criminal charge, you get a grand jury indictment, we say, you know, innocent until proven guilty unless you have video footage of it that, well— So we'll talk about that. | ||
| There's a lot of news this week, and my friends, I was not here. | ||
| I was not here. | ||
| So if it's not new to you, it is new to me. | ||
| We'll talk about whatever. | ||
| We've got that. | ||
| We've got news about AI stuff. | ||
| We have James O 'Keefe is joining us to talk about what's going on with him. | ||
| I'll leave it to you, James, to say exactly what's going on because I don't want to speak out of turn. | ||
| And so we'll talk about that plus a bunch of other stories, I guess. | ||
| It's kind of a slow news week. | ||
| I know that there was the increase in far-left terror that we've been looking at. | ||
| There was the assassination of those embassy workers. | ||
| So pretty scary stuff. | ||
| But we'll just get into what we got right before this Memorial Weekend kicks off. | ||
| And you guys go for your happy three-day weekend! | ||
| That's what we say now, right? | ||
| Enjoy your three-day weekend? | ||
| I thought we said respect the brave and, you know. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| I was following Kamala. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| I wasn't doing that. | ||
| No? | ||
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| And we've got a couple of guests joining us. | ||
| I already mentioned James is here, but we do have another individual joining us to hang out. | ||
| We've got Damani Felder. | ||
| Tim, thanks for having me. | ||
| It's good to be here. | ||
| Who are you? | ||
| What do you do? | ||
| So I'm a digital content creator from the North Houston area. | ||
| I started lending my voice to the political space almost 10 years ago now. | ||
| I started to realize the seismic shift taking place in polite society, and I realized that I had an opportunity to actually lend my voice to the cause and do some good in the world. | ||
| So I started, had no idea where to start, but I've been able to build up myself on several platforms, the Damani Felder on X, the Damani Felder on TikTok, Damani Bryant Felder on Facebook, and on YouTube. | ||
| I have a small presence as well, but I'm just here. | ||
| I'm a pursuer of truth. | ||
| I'm grateful and honored to be here. | ||
| Right on. | ||
| And of course, the man himself, James O 'Keefe. | ||
| Hello, Tim. | ||
| Thanks for coming, man. | ||
| Great to be here. | ||
| I've got a lot to say, mostly about the events of Epstein and Project Veritas and releasing this film about what happened inside Veritas. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| You've been putting out these videos from inside the buildings at Epstein Island. | ||
| This is the first time anyone's seen any of this stuff. | ||
| That's correct. | ||
| Ooh, it's getting crazy. | ||
| Getting crazy. | ||
| Well, we do what we definitely got to talk about. | ||
| It's gone as Veritas stuff, because I don't know how much you can say just yet, but you put out a video where the Veritas logo was behind you. | ||
| Yeah, I want to dive into all that on your show. | ||
| All right, we will, we will. | ||
| And Libby's hanging out. | ||
| I'm Libby Emmons. | ||
| I'm here hanging out. | ||
| Glad to be here with you guys. | ||
| We'll just get started with some light news before we get into the heavy stuff, I suppose. | ||
| We have this story from the New York Post which I found particularly interesting. | ||
| Wisconsin Judge Hannah Dugan seen sneaking a legal migrant out of court. | ||
| After distracting ICE agents, new video shows. | ||
| So, this video, contentious I suppose. | ||
| Democrats are arguing that Trump's going after his political opponents, but here you go. | ||
| Here's just, you know, you can watch. | ||
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Despite having been advised of the administrative warrant for the arrest of Flores Ruiz, Judge Dugan escorted Flores Ruiz and his counsel out of the, quote, jury door not open to the public. | |
| In the video, it appears one federal agent hangs back in the hallway and followed Flores Ruiz onto an elevator. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
| And then they pursued him. | ||
| And he ran off. | ||
| So, I don't know, I thought this was interesting because now we're officially in the, we know for a fact she did it territory. | ||
| Allegations at this point are now facts, I suppose. | ||
| She was indicted by a federal grand jury. | ||
| True, and that's why I'm saying I think the video is more important because an indictment is a, hey guys, you know, innocent until proven guilty. | ||
| I think video puts it beyond a reasonable doubt as far as I'm concerned, and we see her actually doing it. | ||
| Her argument is she's immune from prosecution. | ||
| Yeah, that's not true when you break the law. | ||
| I don't think you're immune from prosecution when you're a judge who's – now what's amazing about this too is he was in court on domestic violence charges and the victims, you know – | ||
| What's going on in this country right now? | ||
| Right? | ||
| So with stories like this, the lawlessness has reached the highest levels of... | ||
| This is just another example of the lawlessness. | ||
| James, you were targeted by the Biden DOJ. | ||
| And then what happens? | ||
| I think you won in the end, or how did that work? | ||
| Since I was on your show last, the FBI dropped the case in February, March or so. | ||
| They gave me back my phones, but they released the affidavit, the probable cause. | ||
| That was when you get a search warrant, you have to release the probable cause. | ||
| They redacted every single word. | ||
| Every single word of the probable cause. | ||
| It's a big black line. | ||
| So, you know, I think what's happening is institutions have become systemically corrupt, systemically corrupt at all levels, and people say, oh, you know, call Cash, call Pam. | ||
| Like, I'm supposed to call the number one person at the top of the entire pyramid to have any semblance of justice. | ||
| That's how you know the system's really broken. | ||
| When everyone's solution is to do that. | ||
| And I think people need to understand that even if Cash, Pam, or Dan are at the top, they're still looking down at this entire field of corruption. | ||
| Of bureaucracy and corruption. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| And so the corruption's entrenched and will utilize the bureaucracy to make sure that they don't have to move. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| And even if you're an incredibly ethical and moral leader, you can't be on top of that entrenched bureaucracy and corruption. | ||
| But this is great because you have her on video. | ||
| This is what we talk about at O'Keefe Media Group, incontroverbal evidence. | ||
| It's not circumstantial evidence or hearsay, but she's actually on video doing it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So I was obviously out for the past few days, but I was still following the news, of course. | ||
| And then I'm riding in a car when I hear about these Israeli staffers who were shot and killed. | ||
| And the story that's since come out with the details is substantially worse than the initial reporting, right? | ||
| As the young woman is crawling away to try and escape, he's shooting her. | ||
| Then he reloads while screaming. | ||
| He reloads and keeps shooting her. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And, you know, to me it feels like, you know, Jesse Waters called it Summer of Love 2.0 already because of the amount of violence we've already had. | ||
| It's not even summer yet. | ||
| And we've had, with the Tesla firebombs, we had, to be fair, the assassination was last year. | ||
| But still, since Trump got re-elected, we've had street violence, protests, Tesla attacks. | ||
| We've got now these two assassinations. | ||
| We have members of the judiciary violating the law. | ||
| If these institutions are systemically corrupt, what happens in the next 10 years? | ||
| Well, this is the Democrat playbook, really, when you stop and think about it. | ||
| They always say no one is above the law until they're not. | ||
| Until it's them? | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Until it's them. | ||
| And this is the Democrat playbook now. | ||
| They are going to literally use the textbook definition of terrorism, which is the unlawful use of violence to intimidate or harass, typically for political gain. | ||
| That's what they're doing. | ||
| It's very easy to see, but it's ridiculous the hoops that they jump through to try to justify their behavior. | ||
| And they will go to bat for these individuals. | ||
| They went to bat for Luigi Mangione. | ||
| They go to bat for so many of the worst in their own side and then wonder why they begin to start hemorrhaging that public support. | ||
| Well, for now, I mean, it feels like, you know, just for people who are wondering where I was that few days, I was actually in L.A. hanging out with Bill Maher. | ||
| Actually just hanging out for a couple hours. | ||
| Flew out. | ||
| It's nuts flying to L.A. So it's like it's one whole day to get there because you lose hours. | ||
| I land. | ||
| I go to bed. | ||
| Then I wake up and we get ready, you know. | ||
| I basically just do nothing for a few hours, get ready, and then in the evening we do the show, and then I immediately fly back and take a whole other day. | ||
| But, you know, talking with him about these things, the one thing that he agreed with me, and I guess the episode's coming out on the weekend, I don't know when, is that the only, you know, I've said this quite a bit, what makes you left or right is not what policies you want, but what you believe is true, to which he agreed. | ||
| And he obviously thinks things that are not true, in my opinion, and I told him that. | ||
| And, you know, it was all right. | ||
| It was cool. | ||
| It wasn't super contentious. | ||
| You've got, you know, James, you are the example I use when it comes to media like Wikipedia in fabricating reality to attack someone on ideological grounds. | ||
| And in 10 years, the boomers who are more chill and like, we don't want to fight. | ||
| And they're largely the people who have the view like, ah, no one wants to fight. | ||
| There's not going to be any conflicts. | ||
| The younger generations are like Hassan, watching Hassan Piker, who gets as close as you can to calls for violence without directly telling people to do it. | ||
| And now we can see what happens when that culture and that rhetoric expands. | ||
| Is it going to stop? | ||
| Well, we did have in 2020. | ||
| There wasn't that much gun violence. | ||
| There were two teenagers shot in the autonomous zone. | ||
| There was Aaron Danielson shot in Seattle by the Antifa guy, Michael Reinold. | ||
| There was another gentleman who actually shot himself. | ||
| There was David Dorn who was killed. | ||
| There were 31 people killed altogether in violence that summer. | ||
| But we didn't see, other than Aaron Danielson, we didn't see like direct execution style shooting, I think. | ||
| So that is a new development in the leftist playbook. | ||
| I think they're only going to get more and more bold. | ||
| They're grasping at straws for something to rally around. | ||
| They desperately need some sort of martyr to coalesce their base around. | ||
| They had George Floyd in 2020, and they've had other individuals in the most recent years. | ||
| But now it seems they're in an identity crisis mode. | ||
| They need to find something to hang their hat on and do it quickly. | ||
| Do you think it's going to be this Palestinian thing? | ||
| It very well might be. | ||
| It depends on how long it plays out because obviously we know that attention spans are not what they used to be. | ||
| So who knows if what we're talking about today will be what happens tomorrow. | ||
| They're cheering for it and calling for more. | ||
| There's already several prominent thought leaders, whatever you want to call them, on the left who are saying that they're happy with what happened and people should expect more. | ||
| And they're saying as much as they can without telling someone to go and do it. | ||
| So if the attitude is largely of these prominent individuals, ha ha, you see what you get. | ||
| Same thing they said after October 7th. | ||
| And again, I don't care about – the U.S. should not be involved in whatever it is that Israel is involved in. | ||
| I don't care about that. | ||
| But people have lost their minds over this issue. | ||
| If right now the left is clapping and cheering and celebrating this, and they are. | ||
| Not literally everybody. | ||
| There's going to be a bunch of liberals and moderates who are like, we don't want anything to do with this. | ||
| But the principal youth left, the progressives, they're happy about it. | ||
| Well, and you had the New York Times come out with an article saying pro-Palestinian movement faces an uncertain path after D.C. attack. | ||
| Wow! | ||
| Like, that's their takeaway. | ||
| That's what the New York Times is worried about. | ||
| They're worried about the success of this movement after that. | ||
| And you have another part of this movement, Unity of Fields, posted on X. And they're one of the groups that is involved with the campus protests, from what I understand. | ||
| And they said the people actually paying the price are Palestinians facing genocide, etc., etc. | ||
| Elias Rodriguez is now a political prisoner. | ||
| And the people defending him the hardest, like us, are also facing repression. | ||
| He literally went out into the street and executed people, one of whom is an American girl from Kansas, And it's in service to what a dispute in a foreign nation about borders? | ||
| Like, what does that have to do with anything? | ||
| And now we have the Intifada globalized on the streets of our nation's capital. | ||
| That has got to come to an end. | ||
| We can't have that. | ||
| So, look, the big issue, I suppose, culturally, the narrative that's come out is Hassan Piker is to blame for this. | ||
| He's one of the most prominent leftist streamers, if not the most prominent. | ||
| You had on CNN the guy from ADL saying don't platform people like him. | ||
| You've had other people now surfacing clips from Hassan where he's saying as much as you can without telling people to actually do it. | ||
| He's not going anywhere. | ||
| He's going to keep saying what he wants to say, and I don't mean to single him out, but a lot of people on the left are – there was one guy I guess that Hassan was doing a show with and they were debating. | ||
| I'm not going to say his name. | ||
| But he put out tweets saying, He said something like, the only reason they keep doing this is because you let them, and then he followed up with, it's easy to buy a gun in the United States. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That rhetoric is not going to stop. | ||
| There are people who constantly say to me, oh, it's normal, who cares, nothing's going to happen. | ||
| And I'm like, just tell me why anybody backs off. | ||
| If they're celebrating this and cheering for it and calling for more, why would it stop? | ||
| Yeah, I don't see how it would. | ||
| Elias Rodriguez apparently declared that he had a gun in his... | ||
| He bought a ticket to the event, I think. | ||
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| Yeah. | ||
| There's just no fear of repercussions anymore. | ||
| There's no fear of repercussions on their side. | ||
| And we know what the intent is, but they will march right up to that line. | ||
| James, I know you've seen this happen plenty of times yourself. | ||
| They will get as close as they can. | ||
| That's why James Comey had the picture that he posted, right? | ||
| I'm not going to come out and say it, but I understand what the intent could be. | ||
| And I think that's where we're at as a society is the left is going to march up to that line, but then hope that someone is just radicalized enough to essentially do their dirty work for them. | ||
| Indeed. | ||
| Let's jump to this next story, though. | ||
| So we have this from the Washington Times, and I love how this is framed. | ||
| This one's just for you, James. | ||
| DOJ should be doing what James O 'Keefe is doing regarding Jeffrey Epstein. | ||
| We should frame that one. | ||
| I mean, we are releasing, you know, Pam Bondi to come out and say there are tens of thousands of little child videos. | ||
| Did you see that? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| But that's only because you caught her. | ||
| We caught her, and then we reached out to her office for comment, and then she went out and said almost verbatim what we caught her saying in a restaurant. | ||
| And that was that there are tens of thousands of videos of Jeffrey Epstein with children. | ||
| Little child porn videos, apparently, and all this evidence. | ||
| And as far as I know, the FBI, the DOJ hasn't released anything, right? | ||
| They released some binders a few months back. | ||
| I don't know what that was all about. | ||
| So we've started, O 'Keefe Media started releasing video and images of inside his library, inside his temple, some weird cryptic messages, some strange statues. | ||
| How were you able to get access to this? | ||
| A source inside the government. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Oh my goodness. | ||
| You're a reporter. | ||
| You know how it works. | ||
| But what's interesting is that the people trust us versus their own FBI. | ||
| Well, we've been covering your videos on the Epstein stuff at the Post Millennial and readers are reading it up. | ||
| Yeah, I got some heat from publishing this because people wanted names. | ||
| They wanted something more severe. | ||
| And I think we'll get there. | ||
| But the sources, Tim, they don't trust the government, obviously. | ||
| So it's a pretty cool headline. | ||
| I like that headline. | ||
| I just wanted to – I don't know if your producer or someone could pull up this affidavit in the show, but this is how much I don't trust the FBI, okay? | ||
| The probable cause, they redacted every single word of the reason they used to raid my newsroom. | ||
| Every single word. | ||
| And that's just a raid of a newsroom. | ||
| I don't have a lot of faith. | ||
| You know what everyone's been asking me this week, by the way? | ||
| I don't know how to answer this, is what do you think of Cash and Vangino saying that Epstein didn't kill himself? | ||
| Everyone's asked me that question. | ||
| Or how about that there's no there there in the Trump assassination plot? | ||
| Well, that's another one. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But particularly Cashin and Bongino, do you have a thought on that, the reaction? | ||
| I mean, I have plenty. | ||
| I mean, one is that they're giving you the official FBI line because that's, as the FBI, all they can give you. | ||
| That's what they were given to say. | ||
| Not that someone told him to say it, but that they opened up a file. | ||
| It's got nothing in it. | ||
| And so what's the official position of the FBI? | ||
| I think in terms of investigating Epstein and potential criminals – So they're between a rock and a hard place. | ||
| They have to give you the generic government response. | ||
| It's hard to know. | ||
| Do they have a metaphorical gun to their heads blocking them from doing this? | ||
| Or are they basically saying behind the scenes, if we went out and told people what we actually thought was going on, it could compromise our investigation. | ||
| Do you think that they should – the FBI or the DOJ should release some materials? | ||
| What do you think about that? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| But the challenge is if there are a bunch of co-conspirators, what can they release that would not give them a legal out if they then say the federal government released information that was prejudicial and now I can't get a fair trial? | ||
| They can't interrupt an active investigation, so forth and so on. | ||
| I honestly don't think that's the case though. | ||
| That's devil's advocate. | ||
| No, I think the reality is there are prominent princes and foreign corporate interests who are implicated by these documents. | ||
| And here's one simple guess. | ||
| A couple Saudi princes went to Epstein Island. | ||
| They're implicated in this. | ||
| And they say, in our country, this is legal and normal. | ||
| We didn't do anything wrong. | ||
| In your country, the stock will drop. | ||
| People refuse to do business with us. | ||
| They will demand sanctions. | ||
| They will demand we sever ties. | ||
| And then we're going to pump oil and destroy the petrodollar. | ||
| Right, and Trump just had that great Middle East trip where he got an 11-point bounce in the polls from that as well. | ||
| So, right, massive. | ||
| What if Trump goes to them and says, if we release the Epstein stuff, these nations are going to go against us, and it's going to destroy these trade deals. | ||
| What do you do? | ||
| I don't think the people of this country are going to stop talking about this. | ||
| This has been five, six years. | ||
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Right. | |
| Their people are angry, furious. | ||
| I ask this question all day, every day, in the Panera Bread close to your studio, guy, hey, James O 'Keefe, what did you think about Dan Bongino and Cash, literally, two hours ago, near your facility here? | ||
| I think it's up to the citizens, the citizen journalists, people like yourself as well, to do the reporting. | ||
| We have a role to play, right? | ||
| The Fourth Estate, as they say. | ||
| To bring the information forward. | ||
| But anyways, yes, Epstein's Island. | ||
| Very strange. | ||
| James, several years ago, you got that video of the ABC reporter saying that we had the Epstein story, we had it, and that ABC shut it down. | ||
| Amy Robach, yes. | ||
| Amy Robach. | ||
| And that was, I believe that was when you were with Veritas. | ||
| It was 2019, yes. | ||
| And then you had, wow, I can't believe it's been six years since then. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| You know, I just got to say, it's now been, let's just be fair, four months. | ||
| So we got to give them time, I suppose. | ||
| I don't feel good about what Cash and Dan are saying. | ||
| What do you think the probability if Kamala Harris was the president of the United States that someone like me would have been indicted by now? | ||
| Two seconds. | ||
| Two seconds. | ||
| What's the over-under? | ||
| Now the devil advocate to that is it takes time to build a case. | ||
| We don't want fake raids. | ||
| We don't want, you know, but... | ||
| No one's held accountable for anything. | ||
| I'm held accountable. | ||
| I've been arrested, raided, sued, audited. | ||
| I'm held accountable, and I'm a reporter. | ||
| So why isn't anybody held accountable for anything? | ||
| Well, to be fair, I don't think they're holding you to account. | ||
| What's that? | ||
| They're not holding you accountable. | ||
| The powers that be. | ||
| They're not holding you accountable. | ||
| They're attacking you. | ||
| There's an overlap because the new one, they raided me, they leaked all my messages to various people. | ||
| The idea that you're being held accountable would imply that you did something wrong. | ||
| Well, it means that... | ||
| But I get your point. | ||
| But I mean, in America, we believe in this right to a speedy trial, that justice, there's a speed to justice. | ||
| Going back to your original question when you started your show, I think when you believe justice is based upon what people believe versus reality, what is true. | ||
| That's when you risk losing your mind. | ||
| When there's no justice, when there's no equality before the law, when the judge is breaking the law, that's when you start losing your mind. | ||
| And I hope that we're wrong about that. | ||
| I hope that there is justice. | ||
| I think the people of this country have no faith in the system. | ||
| And I've been accused of things I haven't done, Tim. | ||
| It's like hell on earth when you're falsely accused of a felony. | ||
| I mean, with January 6th, people were falsely accused. | ||
| At least there was a colorable crime. | ||
| In my case with the diary, it was like, are you kidding me? | ||
| Are you talking about something like the other day, the trial tax? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, that's like what they were trying to put James through. | ||
| The trial tax, like force you into a trial. | ||
| No, the trial tax is if someone commits a crime, the prosecutors say, we want you to take a plea bargain and go away. | ||
| If you don't, We will seek a greater penalty. | ||
| I see. | ||
| And it's called the trial tax, meaning you pay more if you ask for a jury trial. | ||
| The argument they give is you clearly are not remorseful for your crime, so you need greater punishment. | ||
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Right. | |
| Gotcha. | ||
| But these, I'm going to say it first, and I'm curious what you guys think. | ||
| I do not believe Dan and Cash will arrest any of the corrupt Democrats or officials who attack Trump or not. | ||
| I think it's too politically terrifying. | ||
| It's scary. | ||
| It's very scary. | ||
| So they're scared? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Scared of what? | ||
| You know, it's fascinating because Dan gave up so much for this position that it's hard to believe that he of all people would be scared. | ||
| But I think there is a beast for whose belly we do not know what is inside of. | ||
| And it's easy to say on the outside there's nothing to fear. | ||
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But I don't know, man. | |
| I'm curious what it is that they fear. | ||
| That's interesting. | ||
| There's a really easy one. | ||
| A guy shows up to your office with a picture of your daughter and a man standing behind her and says, you will do nothing to upset us. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| And then they just go, uh-oh, what do I do? | ||
| And they were like, we have more power than you could imagine. | ||
| You will not put us in prison. | ||
| and you will not come after us. | ||
| And it could be some fat bureaucrat being like... | ||
| What do you think we're capable of doing that you are not? | ||
| Do you think they put everyone in a skiff, a secure compartmentalized information facility, and when they get in the office up there and they show the film of the Zapruder JFK getting shot and they say, you better do what we say? | ||
| I think it's – the way I've explained it is Trump gets elected and then they're like, Mr. President, you have a one o 'clock meeting with the CIA. | ||
| And he's like, okay. | ||
| The guy walks in and goes, Mr. President, it's a pleasure to meet you. | ||
| And he pulls out a Manila folder. | ||
| It's flat and he opens it up with a single picture of JFK and slides it across the table and says, thank you for your time and walks out. | ||
| Something like that. | ||
| I feel like there's so much frustration from a lot of people on the right because we've known a lot of information for quite some time now. | ||
| We were talking about a new story from six years ago. | ||
| And the fear is the longer this clock is allowed to run out, the greater the likelihood that individuals will not see the justice met it out against them that they should. | ||
| And I think that's why people are so pent up now because, OK, we have a essentially second chance with Trump's second term. | ||
| But then what happens in the aftermath? | ||
| What happens in 2026 if we lose the House or the Senate? | ||
| And that's why we have to do things now, and that's why people are demanding we want answers and we want names as quickly as possible. | ||
| I don't think it's going to happen. | ||
| I think right now we're in the administrative battle, and Trump's goal is we have to make sure we win. | ||
| The only thing that matters is we hold this power for the next X amount of years. | ||
| If we lose in the midterms, If they launch investigations today, then they lose in 2028. | ||
| Those investigations are gone. | ||
| Pardons are issued, overturned. | ||
| And with a seat of power, they'll claim Trump fabricated evidence and it was all fake and then start arresting people on the right. | ||
| The most important thing then is going to be gutting doge, cutting these schemes to funnel money to various political groups, making sure – deporting illegal immigrants. | ||
| Then the census comes up. | ||
| It's a five-year plan for now, seven years to the next election after 2028, I'm saying. | ||
| And make sure the Democrats lose their fake electoral votes from illegal immigrants. | ||
| Get rid of their money funnel through these, you know, Lee Zeldin found these EPA slush funds and also USAID. | ||
| And then have the doge cuts go through. | ||
| This secures the power. | ||
| Then, in a few years, you go after... | ||
| USAID, Marco Rubio testified before the Senate the other day and said that 12 cents of every dollar spent by USAID actually went to the intended recipients. | ||
| 12 cents on the dollar. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| That's craziness. | ||
| I think they were largely using that in the EPA slush fund to help get Democrats elected. | ||
| Plus the U.S. Institutes for Peace, they were taking whatever they had left over in their budget and putting it into an account just for themselves. | ||
| And they had $13 million of taxpayer money in that account. | ||
| And they were using it for flights and whatever else they felt like spending it on. | ||
| So people that join these agencies and go to D.C., do they really – most of them – I mean – They just want to have power. | ||
| And the sinecure. | ||
| I mean, these jobs, it's hard to get fired. | ||
| Look, I mean, as soon as the government tries to fire you, you bring it to a judge, and the judge is like, give this guy his job back. | ||
| You can just have this job, get your raises, work from home, do whatever, take trips on the taxpayer dime, and your job is protected. | ||
| These government unions really have a stronghold as well. | ||
| They put the judges in for this purpose. | ||
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That's right. | |
| That's what they did. | ||
| They're afraid of an entrenched bureaucracy. | ||
| Yeah, Biden appointed dozens and dozens of judges. | ||
| But people in D.C., they just want power, most of them, right? | ||
| Either that or they just want to be left alone. | ||
| So doing the right thing often is anathema or runs contrary. | ||
| I'm really interested in your point about fear. | ||
| What are they afraid of? | ||
| Dan Bongino? | ||
| We need Dan Bongino or Cash Patel to be whistleblowers. | ||
| They need to tell the absolute truth, don't they? | ||
| Well, I don't think Cash has kids. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| He might, does he? | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
| I know Dan does, doesn't he? | ||
| I think so. | ||
| This is the easiest path to... | ||
| I think he has a daughter, yeah. | ||
| They go to countries and say, we'll make you rich beyond your wildest dreams. | ||
| The leader says, not interested. | ||
| They say, okay. | ||
| Then they say, we're going to fund your opposition. | ||
| He blocks them and say, okay, you still win, we're going to come and get you. | ||
| And then they go in for the assassinations for an individual. | ||
| You say no. | ||
| Then they say, okay, we're going to censor you and get you banned. | ||
| If not, your daughter dies. | ||
| I've got another one for you. | ||
| The FBI arrests someone on my team and says, please lie about James O 'Keefe or you won't see your children for 10 years. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Now, most 99.999% of people will lie to... | ||
| It's really about just keeping your children fed. | ||
| This is exactly what I've tried to explain to people. | ||
| And safe. | ||
| They believe the deal with the devil, because of movies and TV, is that he comes to you and says, listen to me. | ||
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You will have the finest cars, the most delicious wine. | |
| You will be a king. | ||
| Do a deal with the devil. | ||
| Sign this pact and I'll make you a rock star. | ||
| That was never the deal with the devil. | ||
| The devil was not a good person seeking to enrich you and reward you for the deeds you did in serving him. | ||
| The devil came to you and said, the deal is your children will die or you will be my slave. | ||
| And everyone takes the deal. | ||
| That's a tough position. | ||
| And in the Soviet Union, Alexander Solzhenitsyn wrote that some would have to decide whether it was even a good idea to have children at all. | ||
| Because you were always put in this position. | ||
| And it's a terrifying, horrible notion. | ||
| And they'll always say to you, Listen. | ||
| Spend time with your kid. | ||
| Leave the craziness to other people. | ||
| And everyone says yes. | ||
| And then everyone says that they're resigning to spend more time with their family. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| They appeal to those base instincts. | ||
| And then the sociopaths who don't care about family and think they're smarter, better, and all the other things are like, this is an easy game. | ||
| I think we've just diagnosed the problem pretty well, actually. | ||
| And it's an institutional pathology. | ||
| But there are a few brave people out there. | ||
| And I think Cash and Dan need to tell the absolute truth within the bounds of the law. | ||
| Maybe they are. | ||
| Maybe they are. | ||
| And that's the other issue, too, that I think is fair, that Dan's literally – Dan and Cash came out and said there's no there there on the assassination, and the Epstein I sent this to your producer. | ||
| Do you see this ridiculous clown show? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I want your audience to see this. | ||
| It's on page 47. The FBI just released this about... | ||
| Hold on a minute. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is... | ||
| That's correct. | ||
| So, Cash and Dan, can your audience see this? | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Okay. | ||
| You are looking at, for those of you who aren't familiar with criminal procedure or didn't go to law school, when the FBI executes a search warrant, they have to go to a judge, a federal judge, and they have to get it signed off. | ||
| They have to present the reasons. | ||
| Why do we want to raid your home with a battering ram and all that? | ||
| In my case, they dropped the case. | ||
| There was no crime. | ||
| There was no charges. | ||
| So the courts require them release the affidavit. | ||
| That is the probable cause justifying the search of James O 'Keefe's house. | ||
| You are looking at the Trump Justice Department's release. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| This is the probable cause. | ||
| Wait, wait, wait. | ||
| They didn't redact something on the bottom. | ||
| Go back to page 45. Based on my training and experience, I have learned, among other things, that cell phones are capable of sending and receiving emails like the aforementioned emails. | ||
| Are you effing kidding me? | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Wait, wait, hold on, James. | ||
| Is that true that phones can receive emails? | ||
| I guess phones can receive emails, Tim. | ||
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Wow. | |
| So they even redacted the little footnotes in the sentences. | ||
| They redacted the numbers. | ||
| Now, this is not child porn or Epstein. | ||
| This is not Afghanistan drug traffickers. | ||
| This is a newsroom being raided by the Federal Bureau of Investigation. | ||
| And the United States of America can't release one word of the reason why they did it. | ||
| After admitting there was no crime. | ||
| And you expect me to have faith in this Department of Justice. | ||
| So this, again, this is the DOJ under Donald Trump. | ||
| And this is what they put out. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| So Dan, Cash, or Pam could unredact it and send it to you. | ||
| The Attorney General of the United States has the authority to unredact this. | ||
| So what is in it? | ||
| Call Pam. | ||
| Call Cash. | ||
| It's like an infomercial. | ||
| These people get asked 10,000 favors a day. | ||
| If the system of justice depends upon us asking favors, I don't think the system works. | ||
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I think it's about administration of justice. | |
| Yes, it should be justice for everyone. | ||
| It should be about doing the right thing. | ||
| And lost in America is any semblance of doing any right and wrong. | ||
| So, waivers, power, money. | ||
| Cronyism. | ||
| These documents you posted. | ||
| Are there other pages they gave you? | ||
| This is a public document. | ||
| This is a public proceeding. | ||
| Right, but this is page 43. That's because it's the probable cause. | ||
| That's the most important part. | ||
| The reason for the raid. | ||
| This is called an affidavit. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| It's what the FBI goes to a magistrate judge when you get the raid. | ||
| Keep going. | ||
| Yeah, they're all gone. | ||
| Every single word is redacted. | ||
| Keep going, keep going. | ||
| That was it. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| So here's the funny thing, though. | ||
| On the first one... | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Okay, but they didn't redact it at the bottom. | ||
| So we know it's number 17. I don't understand the point of redacting the number up top and at the bottom because we know what it is. | ||
| I guess they were sloppy and inconsistent on that, yes. | ||
| But you see my larger point, Tim? | ||
| This is a clown show. | ||
| This is preposterous. | ||
| This is ridiculous. | ||
| How could Dan Bongino, of all people, Be compromised. | ||
| And I'm just going to be honest with you. | ||
| I'm not going to burn anyone. | ||
| But I've reached out to the White House office of Council. | ||
| Oh, I'll help you. | ||
| I'll help you. | ||
| I don't even like that I have to ask for favors. | ||
| Because if I'm just a normal Joe taxpayer, this stuff happens every day in the sky. | ||
| This is a disgrace. | ||
| Well, this stuff was happening to J6ers, too. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| They were just normal people. | ||
| Normal people. | ||
| Well, it's funny. | ||
| I was talking to some friends of mine who are here local to the area, like Matt and Olivia, their names, they run their own show, like Don't Unfriend Me. | ||
| And one of the things that they do is they talk to their local community. | ||
| And they say, what do you think about the Dan Bongino-Cash Patel situation? | ||
| We were talking about this earlier today at lunch. | ||
| And we were talking about we don't know what we don't know. | ||
| People are tired of not knowing. | ||
| If this is what the DOJ is going to do, if this is their idea of transparency, then I'm sorry, but we are at an impasse as far as what the definition of transparency actually is. | ||
| We, the American people, we actually demand answers in real transparency. | ||
| It's not that hard to deliver. | ||
| So again, when people say, or if I say, I do not believe that Dan Bongino and Cash Padilla or Pam Bondi are, And they say, why do you think that? | ||
| I just point to James O 'Keefe. | ||
| That's all you got. | ||
| That's exactly why I shared. | ||
| I speak a lot about my personal experiences because it's factual. | ||
| I mean, Tim, that's the evidence right there. | ||
| They can't even give you the... | ||
| I apologize. | ||
| I'm being repetitive. | ||
| They can't even unredact one word of the probable cause for their illegal rape. | ||
| To be fair, it would be funny if of and the were unredacted. | ||
| It's the only thing in it. | ||
| I mean, I'm going to sue the Department of Justice, so you know. | ||
| I'm going to go to the Article III judge. | ||
| That's the federal judge. | ||
| I have to go through this whole process, pay lawyers $1,000 an hour. | ||
| You know who wins in all this, everyone? | ||
| Yeah, the lawyers. | ||
| Lawyers. | ||
| The lawyers win because actually the more we lose, the January 6th people, everyone, the more the pleadings, the filings, the more they win because they get paid $1,000 an hour. | ||
| It's a kleptocracy. | ||
| It's a disgrace. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| I'm getting a little black-pilled more so than when I first met you, Tim. | ||
| To be fair, this is just after Trump got in. | ||
| So this is before Cash and Dan. | ||
| This is in February. | ||
| This is after Trump got in. | ||
| But this is February 6th. | ||
| This is a Trump-appointed interim United States attorney in the Southern District of New York. | ||
| So maybe, maybe Cash and Dan will actually be like, no, this is BS. | ||
| Let's get it unredacted. | ||
| But how much time does that take? | ||
| I mean, under the Constitution, I forget the Bill of Rights, aren't you afforded a speedy trial and all that jazz? | ||
| I mean, how much time does it take? | ||
| Yeah, but that's only in a criminal trial for you. | ||
| What's that? | ||
| I suppose this was a criminal matter. | ||
| This is a criminal proceeding. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But this goes back to the concept of there being no consequence, as of right now, for this blatant lawfare, for this partisanship when it comes to these things. | ||
| I mean, just prime example, you know, swatting has become this new big thing that a lot of people will do to, you know, conservative individuals. | ||
| I myself, you know, my wife and I, we were living in our home, and next thing you know, this is literally Christmas night in 2023. | ||
| We have literally a three-week-old baby, our baby girl. | ||
| And if you all both are watching, I love you very much. | ||
| But we had a knock on the door, and someone had swatted our house. | ||
| Because they know what I do, and I am nowhere near the level that Tim, you, and James are. | ||
| But it happens all the time, but that only happens because there is no fear of consequence. | ||
| And whenever you have that sort of blatant two-tiered justice system, whatever you want to call it, people are going to continue to engage in this behavior because there's never any fear of any sort of retribution whatsoever, even when that retribution is justified. | ||
| I mean, my fear is that in the DOJ we have three people. | ||
| Cash, Dan, and Pam. | ||
| And we're asking them to deal with a problem of tens of thousands. | ||
| Maybe it's not possible. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Let's take a look at the initial Epstein stuff, right? | ||
| If we're to believe everything they said, Pam Bondi released this letter where she was like, I instructed the FBI to release the Epstein files and they did not do it. | ||
| And then because of Whistleblower, I found out New York was withholding information on this. | ||
| The question then is, why did we only find out about the videos they have? | ||
| Because of an undercover video from James O 'Keefe. | ||
| Why wasn't she telling the public? | ||
| What did you think about that video, Tim? | ||
| I took some heat for publishing that. | ||
| I don't dislike or like her. | ||
| It's not about what I think about the Attorney General. | ||
| But you felt I should have published that, correct? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| I think it's tremendously amazing journalism. | ||
| I think it shows your integrity. | ||
| You're not a partisan actor who's going to say, I give free tickets for the right or for the Trump administration. | ||
| You said, we want the truth on Epstein, and we're going to investigate it regardless of who's in charge. | ||
| We did her a little bit of a favor, I suppose, by sending the quote. | ||
| Journalistically, I actually sent the full quote of what she said in that restaurant to that nanny. | ||
| So is that a public place? | ||
| It's kind of quasi-public place. | ||
| She's telling this to a stranger. | ||
| That's weird. | ||
| Yeah, that is weird. | ||
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Why? | |
| A stranger. | ||
| Nine days before she said it publicly. | ||
| And it was like the exact same thing. | ||
| It was like word for word. | ||
| She clearly came out and said it publicly because they knew they had to get out of you. | ||
| If she didn't come out and say that publicly, she... | ||
| Well, so when you – I don't see anything wrong with you sending them the quote saying, like, here's what we have. | ||
| You think I should have sent them the quote? | ||
| I think it's fine. | ||
| I had some reporters tell them, you're giving them – you're letting – you're giving them a way out because then she can go public on the White House and say what – well, I don't know. | ||
| It's a tough call. | ||
| But I don't think there's anything unethical about it. | ||
| It's an issue of, I guess, your publishing strategy to maximize the effect of the story or whatever. | ||
| I was shocked that she said verbatim the same thing. | ||
| I was in our newsroom and we were just aghast. | ||
| I couldn't believe it. | ||
| I mean, I gotta be honest. | ||
| That sounds like PR 101. | ||
| I mean, we talk about this with all of the investigations you've done. | ||
| These people need to get in front of these stories. | ||
| When you reach out and say, hey, we have you on camera doing this, they always react wrong. | ||
| I think Pam Bondi reacted rationally. | ||
| And said, we need to get in front of the James O 'Keefe story. | ||
| Let's come out and make the announcement. | ||
| But why? | ||
| Well, the reason you would say the exact same thing is because she didn't want to reveal anything else, perhaps, other than what had already been revealed. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Why was that shared with a nanny in a restaurant? | ||
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That's so weird. | |
| We were talking about that, too, in our team, and we were like, why? | ||
| That is so bizarre. | ||
| What caused her to do that? | ||
| Guilt. | ||
| Why? | ||
| So I don't want you to expose any of your methods or anything, but how did you come to get access to that? | ||
| We did not intend to get that. | ||
| So we got undercover people and sleuths around the country just recording, and Eisner is really everywhere, I suppose, both because we have a team of 20 people undercover, but also because we have a citizen army. | ||
| And someone happened to be in that restaurant investigating something else. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| And was simply saw that. | ||
| In public. | ||
| And recorded it. | ||
| It was in a restaurant in D.C. She was having brunch, the Attorney General, and she disclosed this to a self-described nanny on April 28th. | ||
| This was in a public place where anyone could have heard it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Which is literally how you end up with video of it. | ||
| Yeah, and I'm very careful to do these undercover things where people are within earshot, so it's legal if I'm in a two-party consent. | ||
| Now, Washington's one party, so it's different. | ||
| But yeah, people could overhear the conversation, which I thought was newsworthy. | ||
| And we were literally intending to publish it, but then when she went on the White House lawn and said it, we had to rewrite the whole story, obviously. | ||
| You know, if it were me, I'd have just published on the spot. | ||
| You know, that's an interesting point. | ||
| That's the criticism I got by giving her the quote. | ||
| Arguably, I did damage to the story. | ||
| It's a weird thing. | ||
| You're obligated to reach out for comment. | ||
| On the other hand, you're giving the subject a heads up so they can do damage control. | ||
| I think it's fine. | ||
| The only reason to withhold the information from Bondi I wasn't trying to do that. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| I wasn't. | ||
| Which is why I'm saying you did the right thing by saying we have the story. | ||
| We'd like a comment. | ||
| That's the appropriate ethical thing to do. | ||
| That's the thing you're supposed to do. | ||
| Then when she came out and said, here's the thing that's true. | ||
| Maybe it's bad for your bottom line because you didn't get credit for it. | ||
| But the story came out. | ||
| She was forced to admit it. | ||
| That's what journalism is supposed to do. | ||
| She did say there's tens of thousands of videos and we go back. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is what. | ||
| The corporate press does. | ||
| They say, hey, we've got this story about James O 'Keefe. | ||
| Should we get a comment from him? | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| Because then we'll have to run it. | ||
| He may give us information, which takes away our credibility when we defame him. | ||
| If we know for a fact it's not true, he can sue us. | ||
| Don't tell him we're doing it because we want to maximize the story in our bottom line. | ||
| We want to make money off the story. | ||
| So let's say they have a story where they're like, you know, Libby stole a pie off a windowsill from an old lady. | ||
| That's horrible. | ||
| An ethical journalist says, Libby, a source has come to us saying that they are seeking criminal charges against you for stealing a pie off their windowsill. | ||
| And then you respond with a video showing you looking at the windowsill and a different person grabs it and runs. | ||
| And you go, stop that man. | ||
| He stole it. | ||
| They now can't run the story. | ||
| They can try to weasel it out, but now they know for a fact it's not true. | ||
| So they'd rather just say, don't get a comment from Libby, accusing her of malfeasance gets us more clicks, and we can claim plausible deniability because we had no idea. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| So, long story short, James, you did the right thing. | ||
| Well, I appreciate that. | ||
| And the story got out, and it's good that we know this now, and it puts more pressure on them, and it's good that we know what happened behind the scenes. | ||
| We live in a very political, polarized society, and I'm... | ||
| I just want to tell the truth. | ||
| It sounds like a cliche, but I'm not trying to gore someone's ox or help or hurt. | ||
| I just want the truth. | ||
| What was remarkable is just how polarized we are. | ||
| Hyperpolitical. | ||
| Everyone thinks in terms of tribes and whose side they're on. | ||
| It's getting worse. | ||
| Really, journalism has stopped being just about the non-biased dissemination of the facts. | ||
| And it's more about a strategic sort of chess game. | ||
| It's like, if I do this, someone else is going to do that. | ||
| I think that's where a lot of the frustration comes from, particularly, you know, individuals who are just sitting there at home right now, you know, watching this stream. | ||
| They want answers, but to them it feels like, I have to wait for this to get that, and how long do I have to wait to get the answers that I desperately want to uncover? | ||
| The issue of the tribalism is that it already happened, and it's in the younger generations. | ||
| It happened. | ||
| There is very little red-pilling, Or waking woke or whatever. | ||
| So a lot of people tend to look at our society as a static system. | ||
| When it's actually an emergent system. | ||
| So I'd say, imagine a line. | ||
| In the middle of it is you. | ||
| And your lifespan is, you know, a tiny piece of it. | ||
| There's a wave that will come by. | ||
| Lift you up. | ||
| Here's the peak of your existence and your career. | ||
| And then you die. | ||
| And that wave continues. | ||
| But this means... | ||
| Rarely do people get red-pilled or have awakenings. | ||
| And so most people, like I said, view the system as a static system where we're constantly trying to convince the other side of why they're right or wrong. | ||
| No. | ||
| You're trying to indoctrinate young people to see the world the way you do and the things that you want and believe are true so that when they get older, those views become a part, a fabric of your society. | ||
| The point is, the polarization didn't one day just happen like a bunch of boomers looked at each other and went, hey, I don't like you. | ||
| We're enemies now. | ||
| No, the boomers are the same. | ||
| The boomers are the same as they were in the 90s. | ||
| The issue is that younger people are hyperpolarized. | ||
| In 10 years, the boomers will start passing on, dying, and the younger generation, hyperpolarization, will become a larger percentage of the political climate. | ||
| 20 years from now, there will be nothing but hyperpolarization. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Here's the question. | ||
| To be fair, there's arguments to either side. | ||
| One is that Gen Z is moving towards Jesus and conservatism. | ||
| However, it's largely among males and the females are not. | ||
| But then the argument I've made is that women, because of their limited time for reproduction, will eventually cave to the demands of men because men don't have those limitations. | ||
| So it may be that this polarization is a blip in the system, and because they don't have children in 20 or 30 years, it's just going to be an overwhelmingly conservative country. | ||
| Well, my question that I feel like I would have is, while there might not be necessarily the red-pilling that many of us are used to or experienced ourselves at some point in time, is there something to be said for the fact that the younger generations are going to be inherently countercultural, that they are going to rebel against whatever they are told is the proper way to think? | ||
| I don't think that's true. | ||
| I think that was fabricated by communists. | ||
| Do you think counterculture was a communist fabrication? | ||
| I think it does happen for various reasons throughout history. | ||
| I believe this current iteration was largely communist exploitation. | ||
| And I mean that quite literally. | ||
| We were in the Cold War, and it is a fact. | ||
| I mean, if you look at – I can't believe I'm forgetting the guy's name now. | ||
| Remember that Russian guy who came and did that speech about – Solzhenitsyn? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Well, he was great too, but – There's a guy who's in an interview and everybody shares it. | ||
| Oh, yes. | ||
| I know what you're talking about. | ||
| The propaganda from the 80s? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What was his name? | ||
| Where he said that they're going to come for your institutions, your schools, and they're going to, you know, But you know what I'm talking about. | ||
| You just can't remember the guy's name? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm going to wait for the chat because 800 people are going to Yeah, but what I think happens is From Yuri Bezmenov. | ||
| Thank you, chat! | ||
| The only reason the show works is because the chat is like a real-time oracle of facts to correct us when we're wrong. | ||
| But anyway, now I forgot what I was talking about. | ||
| What were we talking about? | ||
| We were talking about counter-culturalism as a communist plot. | ||
| So, for hundreds of years in this country, we didn't have a counter-culture. | ||
| You lived the way your grandparents lived. | ||
| You would die if you didn't farm. | ||
| There were some people who were bendy toes. | ||
| And they would eschew society, but most people for hundreds of years would wake up, tend to the chickens, tend to the crops, go to sleep. | ||
| Wake up, church day, go to church, hang out with the people. | ||
| Put on a nice hat. | ||
| You gotta put on a nice hat. | ||
| Go home. | ||
| this idea of rebellion wasn't a thing. | ||
| I believe the idea of rebellion was intentionally injected into our culture through pop culture for the purpose of... | ||
| So starting either accidentally, but it could be emergent, maybe not communist, but it could be that Industrial Revolution breeds this because we took children away from their parents, put them in institutionalized learning facilities where they are then told their parents are stupid and wrong. | ||
| And that's what we see. | ||
| And the funny thing is... | ||
| I believe that if you raise your children the way humans are supposed to, they will be loyal, understanding, intelligent. | ||
| They will see the world the way you've taught them to see it. | ||
| And this idea of rebellion is actually rare. | ||
| I think, I don't know, I think rebellion's been with us for a long time. | ||
| Look at Cain and Abel, like, you know, rebelled, killed his brother, you have rebellion throughout the Bible. | ||
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| Sure, but like, isn't that a rebellion? | ||
| I mean, that is looking at your parents and say, but there's not one story of murder in history. | ||
| But there's, what can we say, a tiny fraction, a tiny fraction of rebellion, and the overwhelming majority of human history is, You lived like your parents, then you lived like your grandparents, and then you had kids who lived like you and lived like them for thousands of years. | ||
| In the Middle Ages, people would pass down hats for hundreds of years, and that's why the hat fashion did not change. | ||
| But you also have so much of our literature is about pushing back against norms. | ||
| You know, if you look at older stuff than the industrial revolution as well, like it's in there. | ||
| But it's... | ||
| Where conservative parents go to church and their kid comes in and they say that they're pansexual trans kids and communism will win. | ||
| And the parents are like, where did this come from? | ||
| Well, sure. | ||
| I mean, if you send your kids to Columbia University, that's going to happen. | ||
| So I don't see the – so I believe one of the largest, biggest reasons why Gen Z is skewing to the right. | ||
| It's not because Gen Z is being red-pilled. | ||
| It's because conservatives in the 2000s had more children than liberals. | ||
| So what does that mean? | ||
| 20 years later, when you start tracking the voting patterns of these people, you're going to go, wow, why are they voting for Trump more? | ||
| What convinced them to do it? | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| It's that conservatives have babies and they give their values to those kids. | ||
| When those kids turned 18, they voted and you noticed. | ||
| But those kids always had those values. | ||
| There are some that deviate and they can go either way. | ||
| And this is what I'm saying. | ||
| The left was intentionally going into institutions to tell kids to defy your parents. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Sure, I mean, and it goes back to kindergarten. | ||
| Don't trust your stupid parents. | ||
| Well, I was homeschooled for 12 years. | ||
| And I wonder if, do you think that we are possibly understating the degree to which social validation is? | ||
| What I mean by that is it might not be a red pill or rebellion. | ||
| It might be when you grow up and you go off to college and then you are inundated with all of this desire for social validation. | ||
| that that is what influences you to make an ideological shift, not necessarily rebelling, but craving that social... | ||
| I do think so. | ||
| I think that's a component of it. | ||
| And I think that the universities exploit that intentionally. | ||
| And they want to create these pressure systems that force you to adhere to the cult. | ||
| And that's largely what woke is. | ||
| I remember when I was in high school, I was sort of like punk rock and whatever. | ||
| And I listened to all kind of punk rocky type stuff. | ||
| And then when I went to college, I visited the college after I had already said that I would go there. | ||
| After I'd already, you know, they send you your letter and you reply. | ||
| And everybody looked like I did. | ||
| And I was like, oh no, this is not going to work. | ||
| I was like getting rid of all these clothes. | ||
| I'm just going to wear white button-downs. | ||
| Totally normal. | ||
| I undyed my hair. | ||
| I put it back to its normal color. | ||
| Like everything. | ||
| And I showed up looking preppy among a sea of punk rock kids. | ||
| Punk rock became conformist, you know? | ||
| It certainly did. | ||
| It's like if all of the... | ||
| That's funny, but that mentality really has seeped into universities to such a large degree. | ||
| I went to Texas A&M University, graduated in 2014. | ||
| Even back then at a conservative school like that, And that happened back then. | ||
| Even at Texas A&M. | ||
| At Texas A&M University, yep. | ||
| And even now, Texas A&M University, they've had a fair degree of scandals associated therewith. | ||
| I feel that at that point in my life, I was homeschooled for 12 years. | ||
| I go to A&M, and then all of a sudden, I'm starting to hear this other stuff. | ||
| And I'm grateful my parents raised me with enough wherewithal to not be so pusillanimous that I would just say, I'm just going to say whatever's going to get me a pat on the back. | ||
| I'm willing to be controversial. | ||
| But I've seen others even in the homeschool community where they were raised by good, strong parents. | ||
| But then they so craved, they wanted to throw off that mentality. | ||
| Oh, homeschoolers are weird. | ||
| Homeschoolers aren't cool or fun to be around. | ||
| Oh, neither were the public school kids. | ||
| No, but I feel like that's the mentality. | ||
| People crave that validation and the social media has become so poisonous because people ascribe a sense of self or sense of value to how many likes they get, which causes them to compromise their own values in pursuit of that fleeting dopamine hit that comes when you get a couple likes on a video. | ||
| And it's a web. | ||
| It's an addiction machine where, you know, I've talked about how my daughter will not have access to this stuff. | ||
| But who knows in 13 years what technology will exist beyond this current iteration of social media. | ||
| But just like the big tech CEOs who don't let their children have cell phones, I will do the same thing. | ||
| Here's the issue. | ||
| She goes to a social setting, environment, maybe it's chess club, maybe it's some like punk, maybe she's playing in a band and she wants to, you know, there's like a talent show or something. | ||
| All the other kids are going to have phones and they're going to be like, what do you mean you're not on flim flam? | ||
| Like, I get all these likes. | ||
| And then she's going to be like, Mom, Dad, why don't I have a phone? | ||
| How can one on Flim Flam? | ||
| All the other kids do. | ||
| And we're going to say, because it's bad for you, it'll rot your brain. | ||
| And I know exactly what I thought when my parents told me that. | ||
| But then she's going to be grateful. | ||
| I mean, she's eventually going to grow up and be like, my parents were so strict, they never even let me have a Flim Flam account. | ||
| But she's going to wear it as a badge of pride. | ||
| Well, I think I'm confident in my and Allison's ability to actually, you know, convey this information to our child. | ||
| So I'm confident. | ||
| It is fascinating to me how many people are so lacking in the confidence to raise their kids that they say things like, nope, you're wrong. | ||
| It'll never happen. | ||
| You won't be able to teach your child. | ||
| Yeah, I think that's wrong. | ||
| And I think people have become so cynical and jaded from the system that they genuinely believe they can't convey. | ||
| Beliefs, ideas to their kids. | ||
| I know people who they have their kids watch these psychotic videos on YouTube. | ||
| Psychotic? | ||
| All of the kids' content is psychotic. | ||
| All of it. | ||
| There's no reason to show your kids that stuff. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I'm not talking about the Elsa Gay stuff. | ||
| I'm talking about all kids' content on YouTube. | ||
| Like Coco Melon, like all of it. | ||
| All of it. | ||
| Yeah, no, there's no reason to ever show your kids that stuff. | ||
| There's that one woman, I forgot her name, and she's getting Rachel. | ||
| She's going full political. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| She's going political to your children. | ||
| What people don't understand is, I had one person say, well, you know, my kid just loves it so much. | ||
| I said, how do they know it exists? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Why did you show it to them? | ||
| One of the best pieces of parenting advice I ever got was from two of my friends in Brooklyn who said, after my son was born, they were like, never play him kids' music. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I was like, huh, I won't. | ||
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| He was like, they were just... | ||
| And my son has the best musical taste now, you know? | ||
| It's eclectic. | ||
| It's interesting. | ||
| I take him to concerts. | ||
| We both like it. | ||
| The thing is, a child isn't going to know something that you don't expose them to. | ||
| And there's actually tons of literature on this. | ||
| Do not treat children like children. | ||
| And that's one of the worst things we've done as a society. | ||
| Oh, it's true because you infantilize your child and they never know how to grow up. | ||
| Yeah, it's terrible. | ||
| So what I think is great, like so interesting about to me about the millennials is so my my little brothers are 12 years younger than me and they're millennials. | ||
| And I'm not I'm whatever, Gen X, I'm Gen X. And so but we were raised by the same parents just at different times in our parents lives. | ||
| And our parents raised us all totally differently based on, you know, where they are. | ||
| are in their level of success. | ||
| You know, I was born when my parents were in their 20s and my brothers were born, I mean, to different iterations of parental families, but when they were in their 30s. | ||
| And it's totally different experience of how they were raised. | ||
| Well, there's studies that have been done about how the modern baby or kids TV shows are deliberately hijacking those young minds at that most impressionable phase. | ||
| My wife and I, we talk about, oh, there's programming that our daughter might want to watch, and it's going to be something old school. | ||
| It's going to be like Little Bear, very non-stimulating stuff. | ||
| I love Little Bear. | ||
| Yeah, it's on repeat. | ||
| We used to watch the old Scooby-Doo's. | ||
| There's this Scooby-Doo with the Harlem Globetrotters videotape that my mom had, and my son would watch it online. | ||
| Yeah, it was good. | ||
| Why do you remember it? | ||
| Why do I remember it? | ||
| For what functional purpose do you know that thing? | ||
| Do I know the Scooby-Doo? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I guess because it came on TV. | ||
| You know what always bothered me? | ||
| I wouldn't say it actually makes me angry or anything, but I'm going to tell you all this. | ||
| You ready? | ||
| B-A-B-A, up, down, left, right, B-A, start. | ||
| B-A-B-A, up, down, left, right, start. | ||
| This is your video game controller. | ||
| It's a video game code. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| For which game? | ||
| No, no, I'm sorry. | ||
| It's B-A-B-A, up-down-B-A, left-right-B-A-start. | ||
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| Mortal Kombat? | ||
| Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2. It gives you level select. | ||
| B-A-B-A, up-down-B-A, left-right-B-A-start. | ||
| Gives you level select and 10 lives. | ||
| And I know that, and I'll know it forever. | ||
| Because I was a little kid, and it was taught to me. | ||
| Why was it taught to me? | ||
| For no functional reason. | ||
| And I still remember it. | ||
| And there's also the Konami code, which I don't know because I didn't play those games. | ||
| But famously, the Konami games had the same code, which was like BA, up, down, BA, left, right, BA, up, down, something like that. | ||
| But the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles one, I will remember forever. | ||
| And I can grab the Nintendo game, randomly put it in and be like, look at that, I know the code forever. | ||
| Now, this is the point. | ||
| We have created a society. | ||
| Where kids are exposed to nonsense, random garbage. | ||
| And I would say with the strongest of recommendations, do not have your kids watch Cocomelon or what's her name, Miss Rachel or whatever. | ||
| No, none of that. | ||
| And always watch, if you're letting your kid watch stuff, watch it with them. | ||
| Have them. | ||
| Remember when History Channel was good? | ||
| You want them to watch normal things that adults do. | ||
| Because the question is, or the point is this, a child is trying to learn to be a functioning human being in an adult human society. | ||
| Exposing them to things that are only for children that they will never experience later in life means you are building the neurons in their brain, the neural pathways, for something that does not exist functionally. | ||
| So I had a conversation in my 20s with this friend of mine, this woman, and she was saying she hated her job and she didn't know what she wanted to do with her life. | ||
| And I said, what were you doing when you were 13? | ||
| And she was like, I don't know, nothing, hanging out with my friends. | ||
| And I said, you want to run a bar? | ||
| And she went, oh my god, I would love to run a bar. | ||
| And I'm like, what you were doing when you were young, you were programmed to do. | ||
| And this is why so many people want to be at a bar all day and hang out at the bar and go to the bar. | ||
| You want to hang out with your friends, that's all you want to do. | ||
| It's like, okay, I get it. | ||
| You want to go hang out and socialize because that's what you're doing when you were a kid. | ||
| Well, guess what? | ||
| Pro ballplayers were playing ball when they were a kid. | ||
| When they were seven, they were in Little League. | ||
| When they were seven, they were in T-ball. | ||
| When they got older, they were in Little League. | ||
| Now they're pro ballplayers. | ||
| They love playing ball. | ||
| They love talking sports. | ||
| We had John Rocker on. | ||
| Someone asked him about teaching kids pitching, and he went off on all the crazy technical details of pitching and the techniques. | ||
| That's a dude who's been playing his whole life. | ||
| But what happens when you're a kid? | ||
| You do nothing. | ||
| Until you're five years old. | ||
| Literally. | ||
| Kids do nothing. | ||
| Maybe until you're four if you do preschool. | ||
| You don't really do nothing. | ||
| I mean, you know, you go around with your parents, you look at stuff. | ||
| It's actually the most important thing you can do. | ||
| But what I mean is, today, they're not doing that. | ||
| The parents are handing a tablet to the child and saying, watch Miss Rachel, who sings songs and talks nonsense that the child will never use in their life. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so the question is, I should put it this way, a viral video that everybody loves showed a bunch of kids in the 50s talking about post-World War II or something. | ||
| And there's this little boy who's eight years old and he's talking quite like this. | ||
| I think the interesting thing about the politics of Austria is that the current tax rate is driving. | ||
| And all of these people were like, why do these children sound like adults? | ||
| Because there was no children's content. | ||
| The children only knew how to emulate adults, and so they behaved like adults. | ||
| When my son was seven years old, he was obsessed with the Titanic. | ||
| It's like every Titanic documentary, that's what he wanted to watch. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| I was buying him like the National Geographic books about the Titanic and we would read about that. | ||
| And then for a while he was obsessed with like space exploration. | ||
| So we were doing that and he was like, I want to live in space. | ||
| And I was like, okay, let's talk about that stuff now, you know? | ||
| It was like, yeah, it's always key to make sure that you're giving your kids stuff that you can tolerate. | ||
| Because the other thing too, this is something that I remember Jordan Peterson saying, raise your kid as someone you love. | ||
| I'm like, my kid is my favorite person to hang out with. | ||
| He'll be like, can we do something today, Mom? | ||
| And I'm like, oh, yay! | ||
| Let's do whatever you want. | ||
| It's like there was a Family Guy joke from a recent episode where Stewie's rebelling. | ||
| He's like, I'm going to play loud music. | ||
| And so he puts on the Archie's Sugar Sugar. | ||
| And then Peter comes downstairs and he's like, my only problem with this is the volume. | ||
| It's too quiet. | ||
| and he turns it up and I'm like No, no. | ||
| And you're like, great! | ||
| You know what he does? | ||
| He blasts Frank Sinatra. | ||
| And sometimes the Beatles and sometimes Steely Dan, sometimes Weezer. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Ooh, Weezer, I don't know. | ||
| Well, you know, he likes it. | ||
| I got tickets to, I'm taking him to, he's not, he doesn't know them that well yet, but I'm taking him to the Pixies this summer. | ||
| I love that. | ||
| Wow, does he listen to Sabrina Carpenter? | ||
| No. | ||
| I don't think he knows who that is. | ||
| He probably does because he goes to school. | ||
| But I've taken him to Morrissey shows, and I took him to see The Shins, and his dad takes him to the symphony quite a bit. | ||
| I mean. | ||
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| That's all rounded. | ||
| So he's going to be like. | ||
| No, because he wears button-downs. | ||
| Right now he's doing this Hawaiian shirt thing, but they're all muted. | ||
| It's like light blue with navy blue sailboats. | ||
| I want to jump to this story. | ||
| This one's interesting. | ||
| We have this from CBN News. | ||
| Joe Rogan is reportedly attending church consistently. | ||
| Christian apologist reveals. | ||
| I don't know what that means. | ||
| Well, it was Wesley Huff. | ||
| I don't think he's an apologist. | ||
| I think he's a public Christian. | ||
| He leads Apologetics Canada. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So I guess that makes him an apologist. | ||
| What does that mean? | ||
| It's a sect or something. | ||
| I don't really know what that is. | ||
| I think it literally refers to a sect or something. | ||
| I don't know about it. | ||
| But he said he sat down for a marathon episode of Rogan's podcast in January. | ||
| He said he and the well-known podcast have had on and off communication since then, adding I can tell you for a fact that he's attending church and that has been a consistent thing. | ||
| I believe it. | ||
| What I would say—I don't think it's absolutely true. | ||
| I say that I believe it is possible and probable that Joe Rogan is now attending church regularly because of the people—so I'll put it this way. | ||
| Oh, it means scholar. | ||
| He's a scholar. | ||
| So I had a great—as I mentioned before, I was talking with Bill Maher, and I said that I'm not an atheist. | ||
| I don't consider myself—I'm not a Christian. | ||
| I don't follow any scriptures or anything like that. | ||
| I don't like using the word deist because deists believe God doesn't intervene or interact with the universe. | ||
| So that's very specific. | ||
| I'm like, no, I think there's a God. | ||
| I just don't know much else. | ||
| Like a non-interventionist God perspective. | ||
| Yeah, I don't think that. | ||
| And he's famously atheist. | ||
| But I mentioned to him that you're losing. | ||
| And why is this happening? | ||
| He's the guy who— I mean, atheism was getting so big in the 2000s. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I mean, it started with, you know, I mean, it started for a long time, but you also had the existentialist movement, which became the post-structuralist movement and became the standard of academic intellectuals. | ||
| And then that pervaded everything. | ||
| That pervaded all the academic institutions, all the teaching programs, all of the, you know, leftist political realms. | ||
| I think for someone like Joe, much like for someone like me, It's easy to be an atheist when you're only surrounded by liberals and you don't actually hear logical arguments. | ||
| And for someone like Bill Maher, for instance, he, you know, I think if you talk to a regular run-of-the-mill guy in the street about theology, I don't think he's going to have great answers for you. | ||
| And you're probably going to be like, okay, what you believe doesn't make sense. | ||
| But if you talk to a theologian who's sat through the science, the literature, the religious texts, and then has a cohesive worldview, they can very logically break down. | ||
| And I've had those conversations. | ||
| So again, I don't follow scripture or anything. | ||
| My point is for Joe, what happens? | ||
| Liberals don't come on the show. | ||
| Conservatives do. | ||
| He's now being exposed largely to the highest level of religious and faith-based thinkers. | ||
| Joe's not bumping into random schlubs in the street who are like, I don't know, I just think it's true. | ||
| He's sitting down with Jordan Peterson, who's going to say a bunch of weird, crazy things. | ||
| He's sitting down with prominent theologists, thinkers, and otherwise. | ||
| And so I think it's very likely that someone like him is going to be like, oh, wow, you know, I didn't consider that. | ||
| maybe you're right and then go to church. | ||
| Yeah, I came back to faith after And I was like, oh, I guess I better go back to church. | ||
| It's been a minute. | ||
| Well, there's an interesting intersection between many members of the faith community, myself included, and how much our worldview is tied to that hope of a future. | ||
| If you truly believe that all there is is what we have here on this literally at some point God-forsaken earth. | ||
| Then I can understand why there's so many people who are far radical left who will denounce any notion of there being a higher power. | ||
| So for them, this has to be all there is. | ||
| So basically, anarchy should rule. | ||
| Chaos should reign supreme because there's nothing else to look forward to. | ||
| But I believe the Bible says, be ready to give an answer for the hope that lies within you. | ||
| So if I'm ready, It goes even back to my discussion with people on politics. | ||
| I have to be ready. | ||
| Tim has to be ready. | ||
| James, you have to be ready. | ||
| We all have to be ready to give an answer for what we believe. | ||
| And that ties and intersects sometimes with our faith. | ||
| And when it does, it's a beautiful thing. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| But this is just part of a bigger trend in more and more people are going to church. | ||
| It's like the church revival, I guess. | ||
| Also, churches have been getting like... | ||
| I really liked the priest. | ||
| I liked the people that I knew there, but it was an aging church. | ||
| And the church I go to now in West Virginia, there's— There's babies and there's families. | ||
| And what do they say about church? | ||
| If it ain't crying, it's dying. | ||
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| And so I love it. | ||
| And the kid will look at you over the pew and be like, it's life-affirming and good how it should be. | ||
| I look at it like, Allison and I have talked about it. | ||
| What do we want for our daughter? | ||
| And we are not—we're lapsed Catholics, and we don't— You should come to my church. | ||
| We don't follow Scripture or anything, but we do understand that the teachings of the church are good, and we're good for us. | ||
| There's just a difference between understanding the logical good that comes from this belief structure and actually believing in the faith, and we don't have that. | ||
| But then it's an issue of like, well, I don't want to go to church. | ||
| For that reason, it feels disingenuous, but at the same time, we really don't want our daughter to grow up influenced by these other lunatics. | ||
| And the other thing, too, is you start—of course you should go, even if you don't believe. | ||
| The Catholic Church is full of opportunities for doubt and for that doubt to be allayed. | ||
| Look at Thomas. | ||
| Thomas still was there, and he was super tight with Jesus, even though he was like, I don't think you were raised from the dead. | ||
| Show me your hands. | ||
| I mean, that's what the church is for. | ||
| The church is there to embrace. | ||
| Well, of course, literally every Christian is like, just go. | ||
| Nobody cares. | ||
| Go and say you don't believe. | ||
| We don't care. | ||
| We want you there. | ||
| Also, if you go to the church that I go to, it's so vibrant. | ||
| It doesn't matter. | ||
| Do they do a potluck afterwards? | ||
| They sometimes do. | ||
| You gotta do it every time. | ||
| You don't have to go. | ||
| But there's so many good community aspects. | ||
| Like, my son has a lot of friends at church. | ||
| And so we'll go. | ||
| And then after Mass, I can't find him. | ||
| Because he's going to talk to his friends. | ||
| And I'm like, I'll sit here for hours if you want to go talk to your friends at church. | ||
| Like, I'll just sit here. | ||
| You know, what's funny is that these liberals tried creating this idea that if there was going to be a Christian nation— And it's just literally nothing like that because this country had been a Christian nation before. | ||
| And those values brought it to where it is now, much to the detriment of the Christians who tolerate and allow bad people to do these things. | ||
| And the left has created the Handmaid's Tale. | ||
| I love The Handmaid's Tale. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, all of this stuff. | ||
| Polyamory. | ||
| I mean, they're the ones who are creating the conditions of that Atwood novel. | ||
| The Handmaid's Tale, it dramatizes what can happen when you pervert. | ||
| what the intent of religion or spirituality could be. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Because you, if with any religion you have, you can be an individual who is in a quote unquote extremist. | ||
| People say that, you know, certain religions are the quote unquote religion of peace, but it seems very antithetical to what you see on the news if you're looking at certain stories about, oh, well, what was the common denominator here? | ||
| Right? | ||
| But it's what's interesting is now with the left, they're trying to create religion as if that is the The thing we should be rallying against. | ||
| With the self at the center. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| And the longer they're allowed to do that, the more, honestly, you're seeing people who are maybe counterculture saying, maybe I should check out what the church is talking about. | ||
| Maybe it isn't all bad. | ||
| Maybe it's not going to be the end all, be all my problems, but it's better than the alternative. | ||
| And there's ancient traditions that are so cool. | ||
| You know, I mean, what better way to like understand or at least attempt to understand what humanity is than to tap into the... | ||
| There's traditions going back thousands and thousands of years, like Jesus was celebrating a Passover Seder. | ||
| We can all do that, you know, because we were talking before, you could just do things. | ||
| You know, there's traditions from the Middle Ages, like this one called Tenebrae that happens during Lent. | ||
| And you can just, you can feel the historicity of it. | ||
| You can feel that, you know. | ||
| James, I've never actually seen you talk about it or ever talk to you about it. | ||
| About faith? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| About religion? | ||
| I'm a man of faith. | ||
| I'm a very spiritual person. | ||
| I think the experiences in my life and the challenges have made me more so realize this is a fight of good versus evil. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| When I was younger, I didn't believe in good and evil. | ||
| I thought that it was competing interests. | ||
| Largely believing that they were correct and morally justified. | ||
| And that was very naive to think. | ||
| You get older, and then you just start to question why some people are just possessed. | ||
| It's just demonic. | ||
| It's a demonic—the experiences I've been faced with, and I've realized this is a spiritual war, and it's a story of original sin. | ||
| And it's actually—what they don't tell you is the evil is actually within us. | ||
| It's not just out there in the enemy. | ||
| It's like within us, you have to conquer that evil within yourself. | ||
| Well, because we're all monsters. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| Have you noticed that there seems to be a disquieting common phenomenon that all too often I'll see a certain look in someone's eyes? | ||
| And sometimes it can give away. | ||
| Oh, okay, so if you're out chanting and blocking an ambulance or whatever, and you've got your fist in the air, and you're showing me the tops of the lights of your eyes, okay, that's almost giving me a clue as to what your ideology is. | ||
| It's kind of interesting when you start—I'm not trying to get too conspiratorial, but sometimes you'll see that manifestation of the spiritual life or lack thereof in a person based on how they choose to comport and present themselves. | ||
| I was talking to Jack Posobiec, and I said— You know, the Christian scripture stuff, the resurrection, none of that sways my opinion on things because I don't experience that. | ||
| To me, I get it. | ||
| There are stories and history and things like that. | ||
| But the one thing that really sways me is demons. | ||
| Like, come to me and talk to me about demons, and then I'm like, I'm listening because that I've experienced. | ||
| There is this evil that possesses people that I can't logically explain. | ||
| Oh, it's terrifying to see it. | ||
| People that I've known my whole life that one day woke up as demons. | ||
| And I'm going to say this. | ||
| Demon figuratively or literally call it whatever you want. | ||
| People that I've known my whole life that were friends and then one day just started doing destructive, violent, evil things. | ||
| Sounds like the situation of Project Veritas we're about to talk about. | ||
| Indeed. | ||
| That's exactly what happened to me. | ||
| Excellent segue, Mr. James. | ||
| Speaking of Rogan, did you see how he was on the air the other day and asked about this, Joe Rogan? | ||
| He said, what happened at Project Veritas? | ||
| Why doesn't James O 'Keefe release the videotapes of Project Veritas? | ||
| The video guy. | ||
| So I assume that Joe recorded that episode the day before you announced. | ||
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Epstein's library, right? | |
| James O'Keefe just released video of 20 seconds. | ||
| I was in his library, right? | ||
| Incredible. | ||
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And then you got ousted at the Project Veritas, right? | |
| And then went. | ||
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Like, I'd like to know what the story there is, because there's no official story. | |
| The guy who releases everything, why wouldn't he release that? | ||
| That was actually Wednesday. | ||
| And then like an hour later, I released the – But yeah, I mean, it's like, you know, what you were just talking about, spirituality. | ||
| That was, it was just so good. | ||
| So here. | ||
| Oh, there it is. | ||
| This is it? | ||
| James O'Keefe just released video of Epstein's library, right? | ||
| Incredible. | ||
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And then he got ousted at Project Veritas, right? | |
| And then went... | ||
| I'd like to know what the story there is. | ||
| I mean, Joe can just have you on his show. | ||
| I don't understand. | ||
| I don't understand. | ||
| I mean, that's a separate issue. | ||
| So this is what everyone is dying to know because you put out a video with Veritas behind you in the video. | ||
| Yeah, and that's what I'm on your show here, Tim, to talk about. | ||
| I released a movie that's called The Truth Inside Project Veritas. | ||
| The Truth Inside the Truth. | ||
| And there's a 12-minute video online that takes you through some of the examples, and there's a 54-minute long film, and you get to see inside that boardroom. | ||
| You've reported on this extensively at Post Millennial. | ||
| Yeah, we sure did. | ||
| You've done dozens of articles about it. | ||
| So people that you thought were your friends one day woke up as demons and said, we're going to destroy everything that James has built. | ||
| Yes, and there are so many questions. | ||
| Rogan is asking questions. | ||
| Everyone had questions about why did this happen, how did this happen. | ||
| So there's newly released deposition videos, Tim, from federal court of these board members talking about their conflicts of interest, talking about how they wanted to harm me. | ||
| The actual board meeting video has now been released. | ||
| Where you see people talking about stealing pregnant women's sandwiches. | ||
| The pregnant woman now denies this ever happened. | ||
| I made donors cry because I wouldn't take a photo with them. | ||
| The donor denies this happened. | ||
| There's like this crazy psychological, spiritual thing that happened. | ||
| And you might be wondering what the... | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| Just tell me which one to grab. | ||
| Which one do you want? | ||
| I think I gave that X link to you, but if you go on my X page and scroll down, you can see there's a 12-minute video I posted the other day. | ||
| And you can actually see this. | ||
| It's O 'Keefe and Talks to Regain Control of Project Veritas two days ago. | ||
| Keep going. | ||
| Keep going. | ||
| There it is right there. | ||
| This one right here? | ||
| Yeah, if you just want to... | ||
| You're going to scroll through. | ||
| There's a guy named George Skakel. | ||
| Keep going. | ||
| There it is. | ||
| So if you just play some of these clips from this deposition. | ||
| Under oath, the companies, quote, could be sold to a big pharmaceutical like Pfizer. | ||
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Three of the four companies you've invested in, you would consider to be in the medical field. | |
| Heterogen could be sold to a big pharma. | ||
| Like Pfizer. | ||
| Like Pfizer. | ||
| Pause. | ||
| And this was during the At the time, we were investigating Pfizer. | ||
| Everybody thought that you got ousted because of Pfizer. | ||
| Because right after the biggest story of Veritas, the Pfizer story, you are ousted. | ||
| And then... | ||
| And there's a couple of- These guys were co-investing. | ||
| And it's fascinating because in the videos you have, they mention that they don't consider it a conflict of interest. | ||
| He's wishy-washy as to when he started making these investments. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so the narrative looks to be what everyone thought it was. | ||
| These guys stood to lose a lot of money from their investments if your Pfizer story damaged this industry. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And there's more. | ||
| There's more clips of this deposition. | ||
| If you can keep playing the next- Next clip from this. | ||
| Do you know which timestamp it's at? | ||
| Go back. | ||
| I mean, we asked him about conflicts of interest. | ||
| And signed a conflict of interest policy. | ||
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How do you define conflict of interest? | |
| Oh, I don't know. | ||
| Give me a dictionary and I'll read you the definition. | ||
| Now, I'm announcing it. | ||
| So we released, there's so many clips to show. | ||
| If you scroll down, I'm confronting this guy. | ||
| Keep going, I'm like ambushing this guy outside of his house. | ||
| And you'll get to see kind of the nature of this individual. | ||
| Oh, you know what? | ||
| I think I have the time stamps written down, I think. | ||
| I think that's from the actual film. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| The long film. | ||
| There, there. | ||
| Let's go back. | ||
| Go back to me. | ||
| This is me talking to one of the board members of Project Veritas. | ||
| When you were on my board, did you disclose that you had investments in these medical companies? | ||
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At the time I was on your board, I didn't. | |
| When did you begin investing in Man's companies? | ||
| A few years ago. | ||
| While you were on the board? | ||
| Yes, I think I was on the board then. | ||
| I want to talk about your investments. | ||
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| Is it all about money? | ||
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Too bad you can't afford that. | |
| So he points to his mansion and says you can't afford – That really does. | ||
| That's sort of wild. | ||
| As though, like, this is what meaning is all about. | ||
| If you could scroll back in the video, too, there's a scene of a black screen in the subtitle. | ||
| They're talking about me taking black cars. | ||
| Go back a few minutes. | ||
| I love the cringe attempts at claiming that you did anything wrong by using vehicles. | ||
| You've got to listen to it so you can hear what the guy says because it really cuts to what we're – It's this scene of it's audio only, but there it is. | ||
| The beginning of the scene, Barry Hinckley. | ||
| Go back until that begins. | ||
| This is one of the executives of the company. | ||
| It's a little hard to hear over the... | ||
| Well, you can see it. | ||
| And he says. | ||
| I should. | ||
| You just had it. | ||
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picking me up, moving me around. | |
| I ran a large company with a lot of employees and I never lived this lifestyle with black cars constantly picking me up, moving me around. | ||
| Expensive accommodations when the rest of the staff are staying at one level. | ||
| I mean, all for one and one for all Pause. | ||
| So what was remarkable about this was watching people who considered themselves of the right acting like communists. | ||
| You're not allowed to make more money than me. | ||
| You're not allowed to have a car drive you around. | ||
| How do you expect me to get to the Uber carpool? | ||
| Like, what do you want me to? | ||
| Carrier pigeon? | ||
| How am I supposed to? | ||
| None of it made any sense. | ||
| Black cars is just a fancy way of saying pre-scheduled cab. | ||
| A pre-scheduled driver. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And when you're raising $20 million a year, raising all these millions of dollars to pay lawyers, so I guess this is a crazy story, and you've reported on it extensively at Postmillennial, but now you get to hear it and see it. | ||
| No, I'm looking forward to watching the video. | ||
| What do you think would happen if you pulled up to, like, a big donor who wants to give a million bucks to Veritas, and you pulled up in a busted-up car, and you're wearing crappy clothes, and you want to take them to McDonald's? | ||
| They would not give you a million dollars. | ||
| It was, you know, whatever it was, $6,000 helicopter ride. | ||
| By the way, these are smart. | ||
| Okay, let me take a step back. | ||
| The guy you just watched has an MBA from Harvard. | ||
| This other guy, Matt, has an economics degree from the University of Chicago. | ||
| And what was remarkable is seeing these people who are so knowing, but they have no wisdom. | ||
| I think there's a difference between knowledge and wisdom. | ||
| You take a rando off the street, they get it. | ||
| You take a helicopter because you want to get there fast. | ||
| Let me tell you. | ||
| Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, and wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad. | ||
| That's the old saying. | ||
| Well, there you go. | ||
| That's very astute. | ||
| That's a very astute saying. | ||
| Although I do make a salad with avocado and tomato, and it's fruit. | ||
| Sure, but a fruit salad is strawberries, pineapples, and blueberries. | ||
| Don't put tomatoes in that. | ||
| But what I saw was human nature. | ||
| We talk about spirituality. | ||
| There's so much to dive in on this documentary. | ||
| It's very cinematic. | ||
| It's unbelievable. | ||
| I want to explain. | ||
| I mean, first of all, I am a proud capitalist, as I think most of the people who watch this show are. | ||
| But I'm a little socially liberal. | ||
| I don't mind. | ||
| Certain government programs, so long as they're under strict oversight, and I think it's hard to do. | ||
| But I just flew to LA. | ||
| I flew first class. | ||
| I'm not a flying coach. | ||
| It's not going to happen. | ||
| It's difficult enough to fly twice in two days and try and make it back to LA. | ||
| It sucks. | ||
| It was literally all day in an airport and then all day in an airport. | ||
| And it's standing, waiting, standing. | ||
| Then I'm like, I am going to sit down and recline. | ||
| And they don't even recline that much. | ||
| And I'm going to eat a... | ||
| Salmon or something? | ||
| Well, something decent where you don't have to get McDonald's at the airport. | ||
| Yeah, I'm not eating that garbage. | ||
| And I think the ticket was, I don't know, like 800 bucks or something. | ||
| But I think that was like 300. | ||
| I think envy, Tim, and for lack of a better word, jealousy, is perhaps something that we don't talk a lot about. | ||
| But it is a very powerful sin. | ||
| And I'm sure we've all seen it. | ||
| But I think this is something that leads to resentment, Tim. | ||
| People become jealous. | ||
| If you're the public face of an organization and if they don't get what they want, that resentment can turn to vindictiveness. | ||
| The vindictiveness of the Project Veritas employees was so obscene and so disgusting that I can't even say on the air. | ||
| They sent me a picture of me nailed to a crucifix. | ||
| There was pornographic insults and it was all stemming from this kind of vindictiveness which is a form of envy. | ||
| And you saw the executive saying James shouldn't have a driver. | ||
| Now, a lot of my donors said, you better have a security guard and a driver. | ||
| You should be taking an UberX, James O 'Keefe. | ||
| But my own people, my own team, wanted me to suffer. | ||
| So this is a very spiritual journey. | ||
| It's a story about human nature. | ||
| I made a movie. | ||
| It's behind my paywall at O 'KeefeMediaGroup.com. | ||
| It's called The Truth Inside Veritas. | ||
| And all of the board members are being deposed. | ||
| We've deposed three board members. | ||
| One board member says in this film, The board member, Joe Barton is his name, took off all the personal messages between me and my girlfriend and published them. | ||
| Which is a tort. | ||
| You can't do that. | ||
| It's unlawful. | ||
| And they just did it to hurt me. | ||
| And you might say, well, maybe I didn't hire the right people. | ||
| And I think you'd be correct. | ||
| But I also think when you're in a high-pressure environment and you're going after really powerful people, you better make sure your team is unbreakable and has a lot of integrity. | ||
| And I think it's going back to a conversation we had earlier about the FBI, about, you know, What type of person it takes. | ||
| It's hard to find a person who has no price. | ||
| How fast did Veritas grow? | ||
| Because it seemed like you guys were growing. | ||
| Too fast. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And my mistake was I said, everyone come in. | ||
| You're all welcome inside. | ||
| The door is open. | ||
| Oh, you want to help the mission? | ||
| Come on in. | ||
| And I think what I learned was you really have to vet the heck out of people. | ||
| And that was a mistake I made. | ||
| But I also always saw the best in people. | ||
| I always wanted to believe the best in people. | ||
| But the incentive to betray me and to be in it for the wrong reasons, I think a lot of people want the credit. | ||
| They want to be famous. | ||
| This is the truth. | ||
| They just want to be famous. | ||
| They want the credit. | ||
| And I think if that's what your motivation is, if that's why you're doing this, you're probably not – you shouldn't be there. | ||
| Well, that's what happened with Trump, too, in that first term was I feel like he threw open his arms and said, anyone who's on Team MAGA, I want you to be a part. | ||
| And he did get burned by more than a few people who were in it for those selfish, self-serving reasons. | ||
| I think we're seeing in the second term he has a little bit more discernment. | ||
| Of course, some people would say maybe he should have even more discernment. | ||
| His people are more loyal now. | ||
| Yes, I agree. | ||
| Someone commented, Patrick, he says, how is what Tim and James just did any different from the guy in the video saying you can't afford this while pointing to his house? | ||
| James and I did not look into the camera and mock you for not being able to afford helicopters and jets. | ||
| That guy was insulting James because James can't afford to live in a mansion like he does. | ||
| That was the world he valued. | ||
| I don't care about flying first class or flying jets or any of those things. | ||
| I'm not – and I don't have disdain for people who don't do those things and I don't mock people for not having those things. | ||
| Yeah, I think envy – it's a form of – I mean anyone who says, you look at my mansion, you can't afford it, probably didn't build their business from scratch. | ||
| I remember – One of the famous clips from Real Time with Ben Shapiro when he was on with Malcolm Nance. | ||
| And then Nance said something like, how do you sleep at night? | ||
| And he says, on a pile of money. | ||
| And people on the right were cheering for that. | ||
| And I'm like, I don't think that was a good answer. | ||
| What Ben Shapiro said on a pile of money? | ||
| Yeah, on a big pile of money. | ||
| That sounds uncomfy. | ||
| I wouldn't recommend it. | ||
| It's filthy as well. | ||
| But the point was, he's successful and rich, so you insult me, I insult you back. | ||
| And everyone did appreciate the snapback, but I'm... | ||
| Well, I mean, I think that was – I mean, in response to that, yeah, that's not what we're doing here. | ||
| There's a contempt and there's a jealousy that is inherent in many institutions, Tim. | ||
| It's in our economics. | ||
| It's in our humanity. | ||
| It's in our politics. | ||
| I mean, people are probably envious of you. | ||
| I'm sure you've experienced this. | ||
| And they're evil. | ||
| And you have to be careful in a media organization because if you're the public figure and you have all these staffers who are helping you – And you're making money and you're the only – you're taking all the risks in your business, right? | ||
| They may not have an equity stake. | ||
| They can grow quite resentful. | ||
| And at Project Veritas, a union, for lack of a better word, a union began to form. | ||
| People began to go on strike and say, why is this guy getting all the credit? | ||
| Well, of course, he's also taking all the arrows. | ||
| He's also getting sued, going raided, getting jailed. | ||
| But they don't think about that. | ||
| So what I discovered was – and this really rocked my worldview. | ||
| Is that our notion of right-left, it's not really a thing. | ||
| It's human nature. | ||
| But watching all these right-wingers behave like communists, they created this revolutionaries chat inside the company, and they were just trying to find ways to hurt me. | ||
| Can you talk about the current state of Veritas and how they're doing? | ||
| I guess they're on the verge of bankruptcy. | ||
| Well, hold on. | ||
| That doesn't make sense. | ||
| I thought they were the real talent behind everything. | ||
| That's what they said, yes. | ||
| Well, in the board meeting, in this film, I'm going to shamelessly plug my movie. | ||
| Okay, so in communism, they say you can't have the farm without the farmer. | ||
| That's a famous communist saying. | ||
| It's the labor theory of value. | ||
| They were arguing... | ||
| It's our employees. | ||
| It's our labor. | ||
| It was one of the great ironies of my life to watch people with master's degrees in economics make arguments out of the Communist Manifesto. | ||
| It's mind-blowing! | ||
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| But then you begin to realize... | ||
| One of the arguments made by Matthew Tiermon, the board member who fired me, was he said, Project Gratas, we will lose no output. | ||
| We have plenty of employees. | ||
| We don't need James O 'Keefe anymore. | ||
| And they had deluded themselves. | ||
| And you might say, well, that's an irrational statement. | ||
| I say, it's rooted in envy. | ||
| It's all about jealousy. | ||
| And I hate to say it because it sounds like self-aggrandizing or something. | ||
| I'm just reporting to you what happened. | ||
| And when you watch this film and you see the vindictiveness, I mean, it's shocking. | ||
| And Jordan Peterson talks about betrayal and how painful it is to face that level of betrayal. | ||
| And it's jealousy. | ||
| It's all jealousy. | ||
| I've experienced it, man. | ||
| Talk to me about that. | ||
| Nothing like what you've experienced. | ||
| This is crazy. | ||
| Well, give me an example of something you have seen. | ||
| I've had numerous good friends of mine that I've known for a decade plus start making up fake stories to try and get clapped. | ||
| Friends? | ||
| I don't call them friends now. | ||
| It's fascinating because I have some friends that are like liberal Hollywood elites. | ||
| They've never said a bad word about me. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| There's a friend of mine I haven't talked to in a few years, and we're pretty good friends, and they're a liberal actor, and he's never said a bad thing about me. | ||
| And he's very liberal. | ||
| He's very activist-y, and he talks and has had the opportunity to disparate. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Do you think the conservative movement – I don't even know what conservative means anymore, but let's call it the conservative movement. | ||
| This is more prevalent in the conservative because they're more individualistic, they're more competitive versus the liberal groups? | ||
| No, no. | ||
| I think the example of it being more prevalent in the left is wokeness and the cult. | ||
| It certainly exists on the right, but what happened to me with, you know, there's one guy that I skated with for years when I was a teenager, lived at his house briefly, like, he put me up, and then one day he's making up fake stories, and he was using the fact that we used to be friends. | ||
| As a point of credibility to then lie and try and get media attention. | ||
| That sucks. | ||
| Among the left. | ||
| It's always because they're on the left and they want this path to be like, oh, I can give you exactly what you want because they're evil people. | ||
| It's demonic. | ||
| And I was shocked. | ||
| I'm like, bro, what are you doing? | ||
| But I'm sure as a very successful journalist, a very successful podcaster, you're incredibly successful and talented. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Look, I work 14 to 16 hours every single day and some hours on the weekends, and I make a lot of money by doing it. | ||
| And then the leftists demand I pay higher taxes for making more money because the presumption is I'm working the same amount as them and making more money than them, when the reality is I'm working more hours than them, more than double, which creates an exponential growth curve in developing a business and generating revenue. | ||
| It's like that whole thing about, you know, women make some smaller amount on the dollar to men, and it's like, well, there's reasons for that. | ||
| Yeah, they work 32 hours on average. | ||
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| Do you drink it every day or every other day? | ||
| In the past few days I haven't because I wasn't here, but I have a glass every night. | ||
| You know, because it's delicious, too. | ||
| It's really good. | ||
| Anyway, anyway, I should read the rest of this. | ||
| They say the best part is it tastes like hot cocoa. | ||
| It does. | ||
| It's really good. | ||
| All-natural sleep-supporting ingredients. | ||
| If sleep's been a struggle for you, even just falling asleep or staying asleep, I can't recommend it enough. | ||
| I've even convinced Beam to bump up the discount code for you guys. | ||
| Head to shopbeam.com slash timpool. | ||
| Use code timpool for up to 40% off. | ||
| This is an exclusive for my followers who don't miss out. | ||
| If you've already tried it, drop a comment. | ||
| I have the cinnamon one. | ||
| I haven't tried it yet. | ||
| I've only been having the brownie batter because it's so good. | ||
| But I was just talking to my wife and I was just like, at any rate, it's a delicious cup of hot cocoa. | ||
| It's really delicious. | ||
| Again, I'm not paid to say this. | ||
| I should have them sponsor me, man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We're lucky you're here. | ||
| We'll sell more. | ||
| For real, I'm just going to help you out. | ||
| I use this product to help me sleep, just being honest with you. | ||
| It's delicious. | ||
| Yeah, you know what my thing was? | ||
| After the show, I just... | ||
| It's hard to fall asleep after the show. | ||
| Because you're working. | ||
| And now my sleep's gone up to about seven hours, seven hours and 45, I get an extra 45 minutes, or up to an hour, and, uh, I don't know. | ||
| That's worth it. | ||
| I don't know what about it it is. | ||
| Obviously, it's got melatonin and stuff in it, so maybe it's just helpful. | ||
| And plus, it's hydrating to drink before bed, so I think it's working out. | ||
| But anyway, let's get your chats in. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Joey Giggle says, Tim, like Adam Cuckover, said, I don't watch your show. | ||
| You don't watch Hassan's show. | ||
| If Asmund Gold can see that Hassan calls for violence, you should be able to as well. | ||
| My point was that Hassan isn't explicitly stating, hey, you go do this thing. | ||
| I said he gets as close as he can to saying it without telling people to actually incite violence. | ||
| Like, to direct them to do it. | ||
| And I stand by that. | ||
| I think, I'm pretty sure Hassan came out and condemned the attacks. | ||
| He said he doesn't agree with those things. | ||
| I don't know that he actually believes it. | ||
| I'm not saying that. | ||
| I'm saying he wouldn't exist on the internet if he was calling for these things. | ||
| He wouldn't have the show that he does. | ||
| Alright, Tyler Today News says, Love the show. | ||
| I've been watching for years. | ||
| I was wondering if you're considering I'll be streaming tonight after your show. | ||
| Indeed. | ||
| So we had a really great show on the culture war today talking about aliens, AI, other crazy stuff. | ||
| And big show. | ||
| And somebody commented, said, we're just watching a rerun of Art Bell from 1984. | ||
| And that's kind of the goal of what Inverted World wants to talk about. | ||
| Weird, mysteries, conspiracy, government tech, AI, all that stuff. | ||
| And so the plan is, in about two, and I think, maybe even just over a week, Inverted World is going to be Monday through Thursday at 10pm. | ||
| Oh, that's great. | ||
| And so after IRL ends, we will raid Tales from the Inverted World. | ||
| So for those that are kind of burned out on all the news and politics, and you want to talk about Sasquatch, aliens, and interdimensional beings, there will be a chill. | ||
| I love that. | ||
| But that also means Friday we don't have anything, and we've tried this before, like, to raid other shows, you know? | ||
| So, there you go. | ||
| Alright, what do we got here? | ||
| ReadyToRumble says, Tim is a terrible boss. | ||
| He does not work hard. | ||
| He reads in an air-conditioned room. | ||
| I'm a bricklayer. | ||
| I work hard. | ||
| Tim doesn't know what hard work is. | ||
| Heavens to Betsy, a bricklayer. | ||
| Bro, you wouldn't know hard work. | ||
| Relative to what I do, if it bit you on the arse. | ||
| I wish, you know, like I had this thing in October where I was like, I should quit. | ||
| I don't want to do this anymore. | ||
| It's too hard. | ||
| Working 16-hour days, getting sued left and right, having people come to your house, threaten to murder you. | ||
| Man, to be a simple bricklayer, it's almost like that famous quote, better to be a fisherman than trifling the affairs of men. | ||
| I don't think you could do that. | ||
| I think we'd go fish and then we'd want to come back to doing what we're doing. | ||
| You know, I was talking to Bill Maher and one of the first things he's brought up, he's like, you know, I hear that you want to quit. | ||
| And I was like, oh yeah. | ||
| He's like, what about your wife? | ||
| Does she want you to quit? | ||
| Does she enjoy this? | ||
| And I was like, yeah, she wants to quit. | ||
| And he was like, are you going to do it? | ||
| I was like, yes. | ||
| And then he laughs. | ||
| And then I hear in the production room after the show, they told me they were like laughing too because they know it's not true. | ||
| But my point was, You know, so I recommend you guys watch the Bill Maher episode when it comes out because I thought he was very nice. | ||
| He was very respectful. | ||
| It was not like most of the liberals we talked to, and I thought he was great. | ||
| Even when we disagreed, he laughed about it, and it was good. | ||
| But he was just like, you know, if you walk away from it, the audience walks away as well, and they don't come back. | ||
| Some might, but they don't come back. | ||
| So don't give up what you have. | ||
| Enjoy it. | ||
| And I'm thinking to myself, no, that's kind of the point, you know? | ||
| There's a certain degree of – I told him my wife and I feel obligated that she runs the administrative side of things. | ||
| None of this would exist without her. | ||
| She – like the taxes, the paperwork, the filing, the employment, HR. | ||
| Like she runs the business. | ||
| I'm just a guy who complains on the camera. | ||
| I complain on the internet. | ||
| And we both work way too much, 16-hour days. | ||
| But when we've talked about should we just be happy that we've succeeded and now we can go live in Wyoming and just – Live on a ranch. | ||
| We both agree. | ||
| We owe everyone. | ||
| You have a responsibility to your audience. | ||
| You have a responsibility. | ||
| To all of them. | ||
| It's that we've gotten these nice things and to take the money now and say we're walking away would feel like stealing. | ||
| Like the life we've been afforded through our hard work is not a gift. | ||
| It's a purchase. | ||
| It is we need what you do and we will support you so long as you keep doing it. | ||
| And that's the obligation. | ||
| Have you seen these comments about O 'Keefe media on the internet where they're like, we need you to get this. | ||
| We need you to do this for free. | ||
| It's like people feel entitled. | ||
| You know what I'm talking about? | ||
| Of course. | ||
| They feel entitled to my labor, which is also a communist. | ||
| It's like saying I deserve free healthcare. | ||
| You're forcing someone else to work. | ||
| Well, this comment's communist too. | ||
| The bricklayer works harder than the CEO of a company who works 16 hours a day on weekends. | ||
| And it's just like... | ||
| Who gets swatted? | ||
| Bro, I understand laying bricks is hard. | ||
| And it's fascinating because the left, their principal argument, they love to make things up. | ||
| They say, Tim's never worked a real day of labor in his life. | ||
| I worked for two years as a ramp agent at O 'Hare Airport. | ||
| I lifted 50,000 pounds of luggage every single day. | ||
| And we count because we have load manifests and we actually track the weight of the luggage and we add them up at the end of every day. | ||
| And it's like 13,000 pounds of luggage every flight that we're lifting up and pulling on and off. | ||
| And yeah. | ||
| It was brutal, and the pay was bad. | ||
| And, you know, I gotta be honest. | ||
| Still easier. | ||
| You know, can we talk about, though, how it probably does look really easy for people who see the finished product? | ||
| I'm sure sometimes you wish people could see everything that goes on behind the scenes, what's right off camera. | ||
| Because even like myself, I am nowhere near the level of any of these greats I'm at the table with from that standpoint on social media. | ||
| I know how difficult it is to get up and still work my normal job and then come home. | ||
| You have to edit, script write, produce, post-production. | ||
| All these things are super difficult to do. | ||
| But when the video is done, it looks really easy. | ||
| And I'm here to tell you, it is not easy to do what you do. | ||
| And for people who are good at it, you should be rewarded for that effort that you put out. | ||
| One of the most important points is he said getting sued. | ||
| Man, some of these people that – some of these woke, right, whatever, communist-esque people, whatever you want to call it. | ||
| I don't know if that's woke, right. | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| That's a different – Woke, right are liberals. | ||
| Separate thing. | ||
| You get sued when you're the owner and the leader and you're the boss. | ||
| And these people who betrayed me, I'm still defending them in the courts. | ||
| I'm still indemnifying them. | ||
| Let me ask you a question. | ||
| Didn't Veritas pull the legal counsel for some of the guys? | ||
| Yeah, they pulled when the FBI – like when they fired me from Project Veritas, I still had to pay their legal bills while they were – What do you mean? | ||
| Have you ever been sued? | ||
| Oh, oh, sued personally? | ||
| Yeah, I name names. | ||
| Christian Hartsock, really great, talented guy, did the Democracy Partners story. | ||
| He wasn't named in a lawsuit. | ||
| I was sued. | ||
| So he's the one who recorded the thing of Bob Kramer, and they sued you. | ||
| I'm personally, I'm currently defending myself for what my employee did. | ||
| By the way, I'm not complaining. | ||
| I take that responsibility willingly. | ||
| And I'm happy to accept that responsibility. | ||
| What I don't accept is communist behavior, like what you're describing in the comments section. | ||
| And envy and resentment towards me because you didn't endure what I had to endure. | ||
| You didn't go through what I went through, getting sued, jury trials, sleeping on a couch, raising $100 from nothing, starting in my dad's garage, three years federal probation. | ||
| You didn't take those risks. | ||
| And what happens to people is they look at success and they think, oh, I can do that. | ||
| That's easy. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And they give up. | ||
| They give up. | ||
| Oh, they're not strong enough. | ||
| They're not strong enough. | ||
| When I worked for Vice, everybody saw these videos we were putting out. | ||
| They're getting millions of views. | ||
| And I'd get emails from people saying, I want to do what you do. | ||
| The moment I actually explained... | ||
| They were like, nah. | ||
| I don't want to do that. | ||
| It's like, no. | ||
| What you want is the idea. | ||
| Tim, I got sued last week. | ||
| There's all these war stories. | ||
| I swear to God. | ||
| I'm not kidding. | ||
| I got sued last week by this guy inside the Pentagon that I recorded who was fired, FBI agent Jamie Menina. | ||
| He was doing things he shouldn't have done. | ||
| And the lawyer who's representing this guy, he's like, yeah, I'm a leftist. | ||
| I hate Trump. | ||
| Trump revoked my security clearance. | ||
| I just want to make O 'Keefe's life a living hell. | ||
| And I think that the lawsuits that we've dealt with are probably the hardest part about being a business owner, right? | ||
| The liabilities. | ||
| Man, you know, I don't want to say too much because we settle all of these and so there's orders on them. | ||
| But one of the hardest things about running a company is when you have employees who basically will burn down a building, take no responsibility, and then run. | ||
| And you're left standing over the smoldering ashes. | ||
| And then you're like, okay. | ||
| Nothing you can do about it. | ||
| People do this. | ||
| There are bad people out there. | ||
| Some people just want to watch the world burn. | ||
| Isn't that from a Batman movie? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Let's grab some more. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| I'm a huge fan of Tunnel to Towers. | ||
| That is awesome. | ||
| Buying houses for moms and for wounded warriors and all that stuff. | ||
| They raise money by doing the run. | ||
| They do the run. | ||
| Yeah, super cool. | ||
| Mythos says Hamas Piker did call for the assassination of a U.S. senator directly. | ||
| Well, to be fair, he even got suspended for it, so I concede that point. | ||
| My point this morning about the assassination was that people were claiming Hassan was responsible for this guy taking this action. | ||
| I don't like this stochastic terrorism argument they throw at everybody. | ||
| So while I don't like Hassan's argument and I don't think he's a good person, I think he's disingenuous, I don't like hearing someone else is responsible because they had a bad opinion on the internet that may have driven someone to a point of extremism or something like that. | ||
| Hassan did say that about the senator. | ||
| Okay, I'll give you that one for sure. | ||
| My point is... | ||
| So I'm not going to pull the stochastic terrorism game. | ||
| I don't want to do it because I think it's illogical. | ||
| I think it's illogical. | ||
| I'm not going to defend his right to free speech. | ||
| I think it's silly that the ADL called for banning him. | ||
| If he got banned, I'd just chuckle and say, well, you know, you're not for free speech. | ||
| I'm not going to take time out of my day for you. | ||
| But anyway. | ||
| All right, what do we got? | ||
| What do we have here? | ||
| St. Miles says, what are the Fed prosecutors going to do about the second judge confronting the agents? | ||
| I don't think that rose to the level of impropriety, I guess, or illegal activity. | ||
| Misfit Brad says, maybe a collapse of our elite class would require the smartest of the mid-class to step into those roles, leaving the lazy and dumb to step into maintain the structure. | ||
| They will put Gatorade on crops. | ||
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| That's idiocracy. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And so the funny thing is Veritas obviously succeeded because of whatever James O 'Keefe has. | ||
| And James O 'Keefe is a strange guy. | ||
| He DJs. | ||
| He moonwalks. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| He's an intrepid journalist. | ||
| It's a very weird combination, but it's okay. | ||
| He definitely throws good parties. | ||
| Throws the best parties, the biggest parties. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| And whatever this is that comes together was the nexus for creating this organization, and they thought they could pull the nucleus from it. | ||
| And survive. | ||
| And they could not. | ||
| It's a dark part of human nature. | ||
| It's a dark part of human nature. | ||
| And it's a great film. | ||
| I've got to plug it again. | ||
| O 'KeefeMediaGroup.com. | ||
| The Truth Inside Veritas. | ||
| If you want to see the story. | ||
| I think it was the last time, or maybe the second to last time, I was on Joe's show. | ||
| Rogan. | ||
| He said something like, how much do you record per day or whatever? | ||
| And I was like, I think I'm doing about three hours. | ||
| And he's like, that's just three hours of work per day. | ||
| And I was like, Yeah, Joe, it's 12 hours of research, administrative. | ||
| And he was like, oh, oh, oh, oh. | ||
| Because Joe works a lot too. | ||
| But his podcast is conversational. | ||
| So he sits down, talks to someone, and then he says, okay, we're good. | ||
| And so I know that he does ad reads and there's a little bit more to it than that. | ||
| But his perspective is, you know, it's like it's a two-hour podcast. | ||
| It's three hours of work. | ||
| For me, it's like, no, it's three hours of reading news, three hours of recording. | ||
| Three hours of reading news. | ||
| And the production asset work you guys do, getting all these things lined up. | ||
| That's a lot of technical work, at least in our case. | ||
| But going back to the heart of darkness thing, this is a quote from Apocalypse Now. | ||
| And I think it's especially true to see people crack when people are the fragility and the adversity. | ||
| When you're faced with adversity. | ||
| In an institution where you're going after the most powerful people in the world, that reveals the true darker nature inside of people. | ||
| That really separates the men from the boys. | ||
| When the FBI comes a-knocking, when they start suing you, you can really tell the difference between someone who has integrity and character and weak. | ||
| And I've seen weak men – I don't know if there's a difference between weakness and evil because weakness makes men do things they don't want to do. | ||
| Like Peter Pettigrew. | ||
| Peter Pettigrew, yeah. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| See, millennials can only understand politics through the lens of Harry Potter, liberal ones. | ||
| I read all those books and watched all the movies. | ||
| But we were both liberals, you know, so we were very much entrenched. | ||
| So we can translate for the liberal millennials. | ||
| Peter Pettigrew was good friends with the Potters. | ||
| He was their secret keeper. | ||
| But he was weak and terrified of Voldemort, so he sold them out. | ||
| And then became evil, not because he wanted anything from the evil side, but because he was terrified of what they do to him. | ||
| And then he literally had to live his life as a rat man. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's a great corollary. | ||
| His fingernails were disgusting, the whole thing. | ||
| Yeah, J.K. Rowling, she wrote some good stories. | ||
| She did write some good stories. | ||
| Yeah, I don't like the movies, like the new movies, the animals ones or whatever that is. | ||
| I think it's silly. | ||
| It's boring. | ||
| Yeah, boring and dumb. | ||
| Yeah, that's the problem with it. | ||
| It's boring. | ||
| I've been saying J.K. Rowling needs to write a sequel Harry Potter series where the villain is communist. | ||
| Because obviously Harry Potter is just about magic Hitler. | ||
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Voldemort's like, everyone should be magical, not non-magical, magic supremacy. | |
| And it's like, yeah, we get it. | ||
| He's European Hitler. | ||
| He's a magic Europe Hitler, whatever. | ||
| Or I didn't even say Europe, just magic Hitler. | ||
| But she should do one where it's magic Stalin, where one of the magic nations colludes with governments. | ||
| To develop technology that can suppress or deflect magic spells because they believe no one should be able to have magic because it puts them above and they're oppressors. | ||
| Oh yeah, it'd be like that Vonnegut Harrison Bergeron? | ||
| Yeah, something like that. | ||
| The idea being that you get a new villain who believes that people with magic powers oppress those without. | ||
| And so they conspire with governments of the muggle world to go to war and oppress and strip the powers away from magic people. | ||
| I think of Harrison Bergeron every day because I'll be sitting there writing and my cat will come over and start meowing and I'll be like, stop erasing my thoughts. | ||
| That's a good story. | ||
| You should read it if you hadn't. | ||
| What was it? | ||
| Athletic people had to carry weights? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The ballerina, like, they broke her legs because she wasn't so good at dancing. | ||
| Ridiculous. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Shannon Swalder says the Konami code is up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, B, A, start. | ||
| Up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, B, A, start. | ||
| Contra, 99 lives. | ||
| I kind of love that everybody knows this. | ||
| I know a lot of useless stuff, too. | ||
| I have no idea. | ||
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| I used to know only useless stuff about plays and theater and, like, what different kinds of lights were called and, like, what happens in the seagull. | ||
| And now I know a lot of useless stuff about politics. | ||
| Good for trivia night one day. | ||
| One day it'll come in handy. | ||
| It comes in handy on the show, and I'm like, oh, I knew that. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Okay, let's see what else we have in the old chat box. | ||
| Devin Portis says a magnetic pole shift won't create a cataclysmic continental shift. | ||
| It would take a magnetic field several times stronger than a magnetar to move the Earth's crust one inch in any direction. | ||
| The Earth's magnetic field is 25k to 166k, weaker than an MRI machine. | ||
| I'm talking about Adam and Eve's story. | ||
| It's a magnetron. | ||
| The Adam and Eve... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Or whatever? | ||
| I heard about that. | ||
| A magnetron? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's the Adam and Eve conspiracy theory. | ||
| A magnetar. | ||
| I have all the questions. | ||
| A magnetar is a magnetic star or something? | ||
| Every 6,500 years, there's a pole shift and it destroys civilization. | ||
| The planet tilts and moves in a different direction. | ||
| Here's what I think is possible, though. | ||
| You ever see that thing they do in space where they take the T-shaped tool and they spin it and then it periodically will flip the other direction? | ||
| Could be like that. | ||
| Or I'm talking about my ass, and I have no idea. | ||
| I'm not a scientist, and I have no idea. | ||
| But there are a lot of people that believe the poles are shifting now, and there are several news reports, even CNN reported it, the poles have shifted. | ||
| They're moving. | ||
| So an interesting thing happened where the North Pole shifted a bit too far, and then instruments for aviation were wrong. | ||
| That's why the compass got weird, right? | ||
| Is that what it was? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, something like that. | ||
| There are—the Adam and Eve theorists believe that we're on the verge of a cataclysmic pole shift where the poles will flip, but in the process the planet will twist and tilt down. | ||
| And South America on the globe like this will be like this along the equator going around. | ||
| The South Pole becomes at the equator. | ||
| The—like Florida will be—Canada will— I think, what happens? | ||
| Canada, it's going to be long ways. | ||
| It's going to be tilting. | ||
| So I think what happens is Florida ends up near the equator or something like that. | ||
| It's already hot down there. | ||
| Florida's already close. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Wouldn't Florida? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So if North and South America are like this and it goes like this, then Florida is slightly north of the equator. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Would be slightly north. | ||
| And then California would be cold. | ||
| California would be like Canada. | ||
| That's what they deserve. | ||
| Well, to be fair, they already are like Canada in other ways. | ||
| Right, exactly. | ||
| My friends, smash the like button, share the show with everyone you know. | ||
| It is Memorial Day weekend, okay? | ||
| And it is to honor those who have sacrificed everything so that we can relax, have a beer and a burger and – And so we remember that. | ||
| And we get an extra – we get a time to relax. | ||
| But it's the gift they've given us. | ||
| It's not the three-day weekend like Kamala shouted out and everyone got mad about. | ||
| So I hope you do have a good time and I hope you remember why. | ||
| Smash the like button. | ||
| Share the show with everyone you know. | ||
| You can follow me on X and Instagram at TimCast. | ||
| General, would you like to start and shut something out? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| The Damani Felder on TikTok, on X, Damani Bryant Felder on Facebook, and Damani Felder on YouTube. | ||
| Doing my best to just do my part to speak the truth to whoever will listen. | ||
| James O 'Keefe here. | ||
| Watch the new film, The Truth Inside Veritas, part one. | ||
| The Truth Inside Veritas, O 'KeefeMediaGroup.com. | ||
| Subscribe at O 'KeefeMediaGroup.com to see what really happened inside Project Veritas. | ||
| You won't want to miss this. | ||
| It's really well made. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| I was like, why don't we have a production team like James O 'Keefe? | ||
| How are you going to have a production team like James O 'Keefe? | ||
| I'm not talking about the undercover. | ||
| Tell me your reaction to the film. | ||
| Oh, it was an entertaining film. | ||
| The music, the editing, everything you guys did in it, I was entertained. | ||
| You guys did a good job. | ||
| I looked at my wife and I was like, we've got to get a team that can do videos like this. | ||
| Because we're very much live. | ||
| It's a lot of work, man. | ||
| I know. | ||
| It took us two months to make that hour-long film. | ||
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| Broke paintings. | ||
| Well, yeah, we didn't have to go to the desert and chase the cartel down like we did. | ||
| The fight scene between you and the giant lizard, I was... | ||
| Right, they actually made the giant lizard in a giant land. | ||
| I'm Libby Emmons. | ||
| You can check out everything we're doing at thepostmillennial.com. | ||
| And humanevents.com. | ||
| And I would love if you subscribe to my newsletter. | ||
| I write it up every day and send it out. | ||
| And people seem to like it, which I'm very grateful for. | ||
| And you can subscribe to that at thepostmillennial.com slash Libby. | ||
| And I just want to thank our sponsor this month, Merriweather Farms. | ||
| I've really appreciated it. | ||
| Well, before we go, one more Super Chat from Viral Syndicate, because he says, Phil skipped my Super Chat the other day. | ||
| I don't think it was intentional. | ||
| We read as many as we can. | ||
| But he did say, May 18th marked eight years since Chris Cornell passed. | ||
| In two months is Chester Bennington, Just Keeping Them Alive, Rest in Peace, Mental Health Awareness. | ||
| And Hybrid Theory is one of the best albums ever. | ||
| And Chris Cornell was a genius. | ||
| And Like a Stone is one of the greatest songs, if not the greatest song ever written. | ||
| I'm not kidding. | ||
| And I am surprised. | ||
| So many people who are Christian have not listened to that song. | ||
| So aside from being a good song, I definitely recommend you listen to that one and really listen to the lyrics. | ||
| Thank you all for hanging out, and we're back on Tuesday. |
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