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tim pool
Today, the Supreme Court heard oral arguments on birthright citizenship.
They seem divided.
And they also heard arguments on universal injunctions.
Boy, this may be one of the most important stories we have seen in this country.
One of the most important stories in 100 plus years.
And the top trend on X is Director Comey, the former Director Comey.
He posted a picture of some seashells.
So that's the news we're leading with because...
A lot of people are freaking out.
The left is claiming it's nothing.
But former FBI Director Comey posted 8647, an image.
Of course, 86 can mean many things.
It can be interpreted as get rid of somebody.
It's also been interpreted as ending someone's life.
For this, there is actually an investigation happening.
We'll see.
You know, I really don't think anything's going to happen.
But on the right, basically all the Trump supporters are saying you can't allow them to do this stuff.
Now we've got a bunch of prominent liberal personalities also posting 8647.
They're doing this because they want to defend Comey, because 8647 can be interpreted as a call to action and direct threat.
However, if all the liberals start flooding it, their mentality is, no, no, see, it's just a protest phrase.
Perhaps like, kill the Bower, or something.
Just a protest song doesn't really mean anything like that.
So we'll talk about that, and we've got another story that Wisconsin judge who helped that criminal alien escape.
She's claiming immunity.
Indeed, she's saying she is immune from prosecution, just like Trump is.
That's actually the argument.
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We got a couple of great guests joining.
We got Tim Albarino.
timothy albarino
Thanks for having me.
tim pool
Who are you?
What do you do?
timothy albarino
I am an author, researcher, explorer, and a ufologist.
tim pool
Ooh, interesting.
Really?
timothy albarino
Indeed.
tim pool
We have another guest here, Rep Burleson.
Who are you?
eric burlison
I'm Eric Burleson.
I'm the congressman from southwest Missouri and just happy to be here.
tim pool
Not that it's your specialty or anything, but you did recently have, was it a hearing or an interview on alien species?
eric burlison
Yeah, we've had multiple ones, yeah.
tim pool
Multiple ones?
eric burlison
Yeah.
tim pool
So it looks like we're going to have to talk about aliens, I guess.
eric burlison
If that's what you want to talk about.
tim pool
We'll get to it.
We got Mary hanging out.
mary morgan
Hello, everyone.
My name is Mary Morgan, and you can usually find me on Pop Culture Crisis here at TimCast.
We actually just joined Rumble.
That's a new channel on Rumble.
We're on both YouTube and Rumble, but we're trying to get followers over there.
So go subscribe on YouTube and follow us on Rumble.
phil labonte
Hello, everybody.
My name is Phil Labonte.
I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains.
I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary.
Let's get into it.
tim pool
Here's the story from the Daily Mail.
MAGA demands immediate arrest of former FBI director after he called for assassination of Trump.
What did he do?
He posted this image.
It's some seashells that I'm pretty sure he arranged because he's got nothing better to do.
unidentified
That's totally random.
mary morgan
What are you talking about?
tim pool
He just stumbled upon this.
mary morgan
He just washed up that way.
tim pool
It's a natural rock formation.
He called it a cool shell formation on my beach walk.
Well, he's walked it back.
He pleads ignorance, and let's see, do we have his post here?
I thought I had his post somewhere.
I guess not.
Did he?
Here we go.
Here it is.
He took it down and said, I posted earlier a picture of some shells I saw today on a beach walk, which I assumed were a political message.
I didn't realize some folks associate those numbers with violence.
It never occurred to me, but I oppose violence of any kind, so I took the post down.
Well, indeed, he's now apparently under investigation.
Christine Ohm says DHS and Secret Service is investigating this threat and will respond appropriately.
FBA's Well, then you get Brian Krasenstein.
Who posts 8647?
And he and others have just been spam-blasting that message now.
For those that aren't familiar, 86 could mean a couple different things.
It basically means to...
It's in some way remove someone to the light end, to the extreme end.
It can be interpreted in many ways.
If a server is at a restaurant and they say 86 the fries, it just means get rid of them.
However, in the, I guess, mob lingo, When they say 86 the guy, it's usually a reference to murdering someone.
So when James Comey posts 86-47, that is interpreted as a death threat.
And I doubt he'll get arrested, but I'm curious what you guys think.
mary morgan
He's so playing dumb.
Like, if he thought it was a political message and that the numbers meant something political, what exactly did he think 86 meant?
We know what he meant by 47, but what did he think of 86?
eric burlison
That he knew is a political message.
mary morgan
Right.
So what did he think the message was?
tim pool
We want 86 more Trumps.
mary morgan
Oh, yeah.
There's lots of them.
I looked it up.
It actually has an angel number meaning.
It indicates that your guardian angels are aware of your entreaties regarding financial necessities and requirements.
So he's wishing financial prosperity on the 47th president.
phil labonte
Well, he knows that Donald Trump was richer before he became the president, and he knows that it's cost him money to be the president, so he's hoping that Donald Trump gets back the money after he's finished as a public service.
mary morgan
Seriously, what did he think was gonna happen after posting this?
Like everyone was just gonna scroll past it?
tim pool
Yeah.
mary morgan
Why is he playing dumb now?
What's the use?
tim pool
I genuinely think that a lot of these people are so used to getting away with violence and threats He didn't think anybody would do anything about it.
mary morgan
Is he getting investigated?
tim pool
I don't know, you know...
I think they should, but I was telling the good rep over here how much I love Democrats because they are ruthless and merciless.
And if this were inverted, the Democrats would be—you'd have a handful of federal cops just mercilessly beating the Republican FBI director.
eric burlison
Yeah, look at what they did, the J6ers.
People that didn't even get near the building.
They arrested grandmas, right?
Yep.
Yeah, you're right.
I mean, I sadly agree with you.
tim pool
You love Democrats, too.
eric burlison
We often let our party down.
We let the base down because we always bring, like, you know, not even a knife to a gunfight.
We generally...
tim pool
Pom-poms.
eric burlison
Pom-poms to a gunfight.
tim pool
Is it pom-pom or pom-pon?
phil labonte
Pom-poms.
P-O-M-P-O-M.
tim pool
P-O-M.
Pom-poms.
phil labonte
Yeah.
timothy albarino
Could you imagine if Don Jr. had posted that?
phil labonte
I mean...
tim pool
Oh, dude.
If Don Jr. posted 86-46, they'd be kicking his door.
It would be like that scene from V for Vendetta when they cracked the comedian in the face with a trenchant.
unidentified
But Biden's already dead, so no need to 86. It's a robot.
tim pool
He's currently a robot.
phil labonte
He's, I mean, he's as close to a zombie as you can get in the real world, I think.
mary morgan
Like, we almost started feeling bad for him toward the end there, you know?
phil labonte
Don't include me in that.
tim pool
Well, people don't know this, but Kamala Harris is actually a necromancer.
And the reason she was on the ticket is because she was the only one who could actually puppet string the Biden into looking like he was running.
mary morgan
Just an animated meat sack.
tim pool
You know, I think the only problem with that is you're calling Biden animated.
mary morgan
Right.
Never mind.
Scratch that.
tim pool
Anyway, this is the top trending story on X right now.
I mean, it's not indicative of the state of our politics.
phil labonte
It's not a surprise that Comey would post stuff like this.
He's been as much of an outspoken Donald Trump critic as anyone else or any other Democrat.
The idea that he was an unbiased...
You know, director of the FBI.
That's ridiculous.
mary morgan
Why is he appointed?
Can you, like, debrief me on where Comey's TDS comes from?
phil labonte
Well, I don't know.
tim pool
Well, I mean, I don't know about his Trump derangement syndrome, but Trump is...
How do you describe Trump?
He's...
I can't think of a good word for this, but he hired a bunch of really stupid people because he trusted really stupid people.
phil labonte
I think a lot of the reason why he hired the people that he did is because he believed that once he got elected and got into office, they would treat him like the other presidents.
He would be in the club.
And there's nothing that Trump wants more than to be liked by people and to be in the club.
If you look at that as something bad, then fine.
If you look at that as something good, then fine.
But what Trump wants is to get the respect of the people that were in the club.
If it wasn't for Barack Obama making fun of him, he likely would have never run.
But it was a big F you to the establishment and to everybody that was at the White House Correspondents' Dinner that laughed at him.
He got in and then he was like, okay, I will be magnanimous and I will treat you all well and I'll be nice and I will, you know, if you'll let me in the club.
And the difference between Trump and every other president is once he was in, they didn't consider him.
They didn't think of him as an insider.
He was always an outsider.
tim pool
I already know the answer to this question, but I'm going to ask it as a rhetorical device.
Have you ever seen Fahrenheit 11.9 by Michael Moore?
phil labonte
No.
tim pool
Of course you didn't.
In that documentary, you have seen it.
You did see it.
eric burlison
It's been a while.
tim pool
Oh, heavens, I was wrong.
You saw it.
Well, I saw it too.
I went with Luke Rutkowski.
We took a trip to the theater.
And in it, Michael Moore argues that Trump was accidentally the president.
And he only announced he was running for president because NBC gave Gwen Stefani a better contract, and he got offended because he's a bigger personality.
So he thought, if I announce that I'm running and then actually do this, once I leave, I'll have better name recognition and they'll give me a better deal.
But then he accidentally won and was befuddled.
Which makes no sense because he registered MAGA four years before he ran.
But sure.
phil labonte
He'd been...
eric burlison
He'd been talking about it forever.
He'd been talking about it with Roger Stone for quite some time.
They'd been planning...
He was flirting with it for a long time, but as somebody who'd never ran for anything, a lot of people who are private sector individuals don't want to jump right in like that.
But he was planning.
phil labonte
Not that I'm in the political realm, but I know a few people that are elected officials, and I would not want anything to do with that at all.
It seems like an exercise in masochism.
But he was flirting in 2000, I think, is when he was going to start that third party.
tim pool
The reform party?
phil labonte
Yeah, the reform party, and then David Duke got into there.
He's like, all right, I'm out of here, man.
But yeah, he had been flirting with the idea.
He talked to Oprah Winfrey about it.
And I think that's part of the reason why nobody thought he was serious, even when he did announce.
And that's probably why Joe Scarborough gave him so much time.
They had been friendly before he ran.
And then they thought, oh, Donald Trump was on The Apprentice.
He's on NBC.
So we can bring him on.
It'll be crossover stuff.
The NBC fans like him, so it'll be fun, etc., etc.
But then when he did actually become the nominee, They had to side with Hillary Clinton because that's what NBC was going to do.
And so, you know, they had to turn on him.
But they gave him tons of free airtime.
They were part of the reason why Donald Trump was elected in the first place.
mary morgan
You're right, though, about his need to feel included in the club.
Like, that is his top character flaw.
Just this pathological need to be liked.
tim pool
Yes, but his arrogance on top of that...
When they've slighted him, it becomes near-divine retribution.
mary morgan
We were promised retribution.
tim pool
Can I come in your club?
And they're like, no, you stink.
I'm going to destroy you.
eric burlison
To me, he's the Rodney Dangerfield from Caddyshack.
phil labonte
That's a great analogy.
eric burlison
That is Trump.
He's the guy who, the elitists, they didn't want him to be a part of the club.
But he certainly qualified, and he said, I'll show you.
I will.
I'll find a way to get in, and you'll have to deal with me.
He's Majorfield.
tim pool
I remember when he was running, and he was about to take the primaries.
He had a meeting in D.C., and everybody was all excited.
We were watching.
There was a car pulling into a building, and everybody was like, ooh, he's going to have a meeting with these big shots.
And I think Trump went in, talking to the Republican leadership.
And was under the impression, if I win, I'm going to work with you guys.
Who do you think I should bring on?
And they were like, yeah, bring in John Bolton.
And bring in Comey.
And he's like, alright.
And then as soon as he did, they were like, alright, get him out.
Shut him down.
Russian spy.
And they betrayed him.
The Republicans had Congress for the first two years of Trump's first term.
And what happened?
They just went along with the Russian narrative.
Let it happen.
That's insane.
And here we are.
I suppose the good thing is you wouldn't have everything Trump is doing right now if he did win in 2020.
You would have been a continuation of these bad people.
So, you know, ain't all bad.
phil labonte
No, the time that Trump spent, you know, in the wilderness was really, really good for, you know, I think it'll end up being good for the country.
But it was definitely good for Donald Trump because he went and, if I understand correctly, I was watching a lot of stuff that...
Sean Spicer and Mark Halpern have been talking about it, and they were saying, you know, he spent a lot of time finding people in Washington and talking with them and listening to them and saying, you know, what did I do wrong?
How did I mess up, etc.?
And he really spent a lot of time thinking about that and figuring out how to make sure that it doesn't happen, which is why we got the flurry of activity that we had when he first got elected, when he first got...
And that's why, you know, we'll talk about it in a little bit, but that's why we see the Supreme Court today talking about birthright citizenship.
If I understand correctly, they're not actually going to be taking on the issue of birthright citizenship, but they are taking on the issue of blanket pardons.
tim pool
Well, let's jump into this.
We've got this from NPR.
Supreme Court justices appeared divided in birthright citizenship arguments.
So for those that aren't familiar today, they heard the oral arguments as to whether or not people get citizenship just because they were born here.
They also heard arguments on universal injunctions.
And as always, the liberals are saying the clearly liberal things and the conservatives are saying the clearly conservative things.
They're going to say...
The U.S. Supreme Court seemed at least partially divided on Thursday as the justices heard more than two hours of arguments debating how the lower courts should handle Trump's executive order on birthright citizenship.
Trump has long maintained there is no such thing as birthright citizenship, but the Supreme Court ruled otherwise 127 years ago.
They were wrong, by the way.
That's my opinion.
The court said then, and since then, that the text of the 14th Amendment enacted after the Civil War says that all babies born in the U.S. are automatically U.S. citizens.
Undaunted Trump on his first day issued an executive order.
We know when the Court of Appeals refused to intervene with litigation preceded.
The Trump admin asked the Supreme Court to block universal injunctions altogether.
The admin asserted that single district judges should not have such broad authority.
So on Thursday, the court heard emergency arguments in the case.
So, yeah, it doesn't seem like they're going to answer just right now on birthright citizenship, but on the issue of...
They could.
They could.
Universal injunctions.
One of the most fascinating statements.
I think it was Ketanji Brown-Jackson.
It might have been.
It was one of the liberals.
unidentified
It's stupid.
tim pool
It was.
They said, the argument was, what's wrong with a district court judge telling the government what you're doing is illegal so you can't do it to anyone?
And the Solicitor General for the U.S. said, we enacted a Trump-signed executive order about the military.
I think it was the military.
And we got a court to issue a universal injunction saying you cannot enact this.
So we appealed.
The appeals court put a stay on the injunction saying, for the time being, until this is properly adjudicated, you can continue.
Shortly after that, they filed in another district court and got another universal injunction.
So how does it make sense that you're going to get an appeals court saying keep going, but then another district court can just put another injunction?
And the Supreme Court justice said, yeah, but then wouldn't everyone who's affected have to get a lawyer and sue when these things happen?
And I'm just like, are you a judge?
Yes!
Are you kidding me?
The argument from the liberal court was that people uninvolved in a court case could and should be granted relief or impacted by a court's decision.
That is an absurdity.
That means, that argument is...
Phil could file a lawsuit over the interpretation of, like, music royalties or something.
And then, totally unrelated to the case, the judge could say, and people can't wear beanies anymore.
And then I'm like, wait, wait, wait, what do I have to do with this?
I am not a part of this lawsuit.
Why are you enjoining my actions after the fact?
That's the argument they were making.
It is a stupid argument.
And sometimes I wonder how these people are justices.
phil labonte
Well, there are special interest groups.
Like, for instance, there is the short...
Barrel rifle or pistol dispute that's going to be going up to the Supreme Court.
I'm not sure if they're going to actually hear it, but I think they're trying to get it in front of the Supreme Court.
But either way, like...
Not every person in the country needs relief by the injunction, right?
It's the people that own these guns.
So the special interest groups like the gun owners of GOA, Gun Owners of America, or FPC, Firearms Policy Coalition, or whatever, these groups can go to the court and say, we need an injunction for our members.
That's not a blanket.
eric burlison
That's right.
unidentified
Right.
phil labonte
You know, that's not a blanket for the whole country, but it is for the specific people that will be affected.
And the way that it goes now is it's just an injunction for the whole country.
And that shouldn't be.
And this is something that the that Kagan has has spoke on recently or not in not recently, but in the past.
These injunctions that are blanket injunctions that prevent the the administration from carrying out its job need to end.
You know, you can't have you can't just have the the judiciary impeding the executive office from.
eric burlison
From the lower courts.
phil labonte
Yeah.
eric burlison
Right?
Because that's the real problem is that you've got how many hundreds or thousands of these individuals are there?
I don't know.
But they, you can't, it's chaos when you let one person in a lower court.
Be the veto, literally give them the veto power of a president on policy that affects the entire nation.
That's insane.
That was never an intention of the Founding Fathers.
tim pool
Nowhere in the Constitution does it grant the judiciary the power to issue universal decrees as to how the country is run.
I mean, it's particularly egregious with Donald Trump's ban on transgender servicemen and women in the military.
This is a DSM-5 mental disorder.
That is the academic.
I'm not trying to disrespect anybody.
YouTube, calm down.
Rumble's chill.
But there are over 40 different categories that will get you disqualified or disqualified from enlistment.
And Trump just added another one to it.
Only if you're exhibiting symptoms.
And a lower court district judge said, no, you must bring in anyone who enlists because, quote, all means all.
This meant at least temporarily.
Schizophrenic bipolar individuals are now...
It's an absurdity that you basically have in these universal injunctions rule by decree of the judiciary.
They can literally just, we hereby say the government can no longer arrest people for smoking pot and just decree that marijuana is not illegal anymore.
That's an insanity.
So I don't know if they're, you know, according to NPR, it looks like even the conservatives weren't convinced by No, I don't think the Constitution says that.
eric burlison
I think it's pretty clear that the President and Congress have the authority over this topic to define it and to determine, you know, naturalization.
I don't think, and nowhere in there does it say that Anybody born here has U.S. citizenship.
tim pool
Well, the 40th Amendment says all persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.
mary morgan
That's the letter of the law, not the spirit of the law, and it definitely wasn't intended to mean anyone who flies over the border at the last minute while crowning is about to give birth to a U.S. citizen.
That is not the way it was intended at all.
tim pool
Indeed, the intention of the 14th Amendment was to say, hey guys, stop the Civil War stuff.
It's over.
We win.
Now, how do we remedy this slavery thing?
I got it.
If you were born here, you know...
You're a citizen.
We good?
Okay, now moving forward, and then some, like, what, 40 years later, somebody was like, yeah, but it says if you're born here, you're a citizen.
And then they were like, no, that meant then.
That meant, like, after the war.
And they're like, no, we think it means forever.
And then a judge said yes.
timothy albarino
We have a unique problem now that they didn't have back then, and that is that we have thousands and thousands of people streaming over the border, as you said, pregnant, to have babies here, to anchor themselves and their families in the United States.
And a lot of these people are not amalgamating with the culture.
They have their own cultures, and they maintain, in some sense, they maintain their patriotism and allegiance to the countries that they come from.
This is a unique problem that we have.
This isn't a problem that goes back to the Civil War.
So I think it needs a new solution.
tim pool
Yeah, I think one of the challenges...
We constantly hear from liberals' arguments about how...
The Founding Fathers didn't understand the technological advancements that would alter the meaning of the Constitution.
And I don't completely disagree with that.
I just don't think it voids any of the initial Bill of Rights of the Constitution.
That being said, I do think it's fair to say...
Here's a question for you guys.
You're a member of Congress.
Are you a two-way guy, you'd say?
eric burlison
Yes.
tim pool
Do you think people should be allowed to have nuclear weapons?
A tough one, right?
eric burlison
You know...
I would say everything up to nuclear weapons.
tim pool
What about biological weapons?
eric burlison
No.
tim pool
See, I agree.
But my view is, procedurally, we should amend the Constitution.
We have to say that.
eric burlison
Because it's clear, to me, the way the Second Amendment is written is that if the military is going to have this, then the citizens should have it too.
tim pool
Indeed.
And back then?
In the late 1700s, when they were fighting a war, and then I think it was, what, 1789 when they drafted this, people had cannons, artillery.
They had warships, private warships.
And even to this day, private companies make nuclear weapons for the government.
They just regulate and control how it's done.
So I do think we want to protect the basic right of the people to keep and bear arms, but basically everybody, I know not literally everybody, but most people would be like, we don't think...
Random people should have biological weapons.
But it's a weapon.
It's used by governments.
Yeah, but we're talking about the apocalypse now.
The Founding Fathers couldn't have perceived of weaponized smallpox.
unidentified
Well, actually.
phil labonte
You know, maybe, now that you mention that, their thoughts on bioweapons may be different than what we're talking about here.
tim pool
But my point in bringing that up is they didn't perceive of it that way, of like weaponizing viruses to target genetics and things like that.
So anyway, my point is this.
Airplanes, you know, it was a lot easier back in the day.
If somebody came into your town and wasn't from there, they'd just be like, you're not a citizen, get out of here.
Now what happens is someone flies here, the guy at the hospital doesn't know who this person is, and they have to take him.
And then this Chinese woman comes in and she's like, I'm pregnant, and they're like, we don't know if they're a citizen or not.
And then they give birth.
And then, this is, okay, whatever it is your arguments are, whatever you want to think, I'm going to tell you exactly why we have to get rid of birthright citizenship.
It shouldn't exist.
Iran is a great adversary of ours.
We don't like them.
They're crazy.
They're going to build a nuclear weapon.
We can't have any of that.
What happens if an Iranian couple travels to the U.S. by whatever means they can, because they do, and gives birth to a child in America, and then three months later flies back to Iran through Turkey or something, right?
Lives 20 years in Iran.
And that child grows up as a staunch Islamist and supporter of Iran and their desires and their goals, but as an American passport.
phil labonte
This is very similar to the reality of Hassan Piker.
tim pool
And then the Iranian 20-year-old, who barely speaks English, moves to the United States, an American citizen, born in America, allegiant to Iran, and then goes to university, learns a language, and then runs for president.
15 years later.
Young 35-year-old, charismatic, says, trust me, I should be president.
Everyone's like, you grew up in Iran, an adversary of this nation.
Doesn't matter.
American citizen.
I mean, that's an absurdity.
The founding fathers would have said, no.
What do you mean?
Imagine going to, like, Thomas Jefferson and saying, you know that song you guys have about the shores of Tripoli?
What if those people came here and had kids and then ran for president?
He'd be like, what?
No.
What are you talking about?
And that's where we are today.
eric burlison
Yeah.
And then you add on top of that that we're now a nation, we're a welfare state.
phil labonte
Oh, yeah.
eric burlison
So for every person, back in the Founding Fathers, they didn't, people, every person born was not a walking liability, financial liability.
phil labonte
Yep.
eric burlison
Every child born in America is, or that is a U.S. citizen, is hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars in costs, just in education costs alone, to the U.S. taxpayers.
God forbid they get sick and they go to the hospital.
We're paying for their Medicaid, right?
And the costs go on and on.
And so that's why you can't have a nation that has such a generous welfare system and have open borders and allow this to happen.
tim pool
I will just clarify because the Marines hymn is from 1867.
So Thomas Jefferson, of course, would not have known.
We would not have known about it.
But he did know about the shores of Tripoli, so he certainly would have been like, yeah, no.
But I do think it is kind of funny, in fact, that a lot of the illegal immigrants are from the halls of Montezuma.
You know?
phil labonte
Yeah.
I mean...
tim pool
I guess technically many from the shores of Tripoli as well.
phil labonte
Possibly.
But the...
No, never mind.
I had a point that I lost it.
tim pool
I was too busy making a point about the Founding Fathers being at war with...
Barbary pirates and not wanting them to come here.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, we've been doing the whole policing the seas for a long time, haven't we?
tim pool
Trump still wants to do it.
That's like his whole thing.
phil labonte
The U.S. still does make the seas safe for international trade, at least for most of the world.
And personally, I think that that's a totally legitimate use for the Navy.
And it's a big part of why the U.S. is still the indispensable nation.
tim pool
Indeed.
Let's jump to this story from Politico.
Wisconsin judge argues she is entitled to judicial immunity.
You may have heard of Judge Hannah Dugan.
She is accused of aiding and abetting a criminal alien by allowing him to escape federal law enforcement.
They're seeking to deport him.
She's pleaded not guilty.
Now she is arguing she is immune from prosecution.
Let me read.
Wisconsin judge charged with helping a man who was in the country illegally evade U.S. immigration agents.
Who was trying to get him from the courthouse, filed a motion to dismiss the case Wednesday, arguing there's no legal basis for it.
Attorneys for Milwaukee County Circuit Judge Hannah Dugan argue in the notion that her conduct on the day of question amounted to directing people's movement in and around her courtroom, and that she enjoys legal immunity for official acts she performs as a judge.
They cite last year's U.S. Supreme Court ruling in Trump's 2020 election interference case.
We get it.
Quote, the problem with the prosecution are legion.
But most immediately, the government cannot prosecute Judge Dugan because she is entitled to judicial immunity for her official acts.
Immunity is not a defense to the prosecution.
To be determined later by a jury or court, it is an absolute bar to the prosecution at the outset.
phil labonte
Is that an official duty helping accused criminals escape?
tim pool
And they're going to go, objection, speculative?
I actually don't know if they'd say that, but I just wanted to bang the gavel.
What they're actually going to say is she wasn't seeking to assist an illegal immigrant.
She was simply directing the flow of traffic in her courtroom that she does.
That's what they're saying.
That's what they said.
That's literally what they said.
phil labonte
That's hilarious.
tim pool
As judge, she has to tell people where to go and when to go.
And she was saying, you go that way and leave.
Because I am so busy today.
Now, the funny thing about law.
Is I typically find a lot of people, I don't know if you guys bump into this, people think the law is like a gigantic wall.
And it's just like, contract law is my favorite.
People will say things like, oh, but you can't do this, you signed a contract.
I'll be like, you've never been involved with contract litigation, have you?
Because people break those literally every other day.
They're literally worth less than the paper they're printed on.
It's kind of just like guidelines.
But contracts can be voided by a judge.
You can, you know, I can sign a label deal with Phil that's totally sound and legit, and then a judge finds it to be unfair and just voids it.
It's like the contract doesn't mean anything.
So people don't understand that the law is as people are willing to enforce it.
So then when this judge says, hey, look, I'm allowed to direct traffic in my courtroom, so I'm immune, and he's saying judge is going to go, nice try, lady.
Because we're human beings.
We're not morons.
We understand what you're trying to do.
phil labonte
I mean, it's unfortunate, but if you can make an argument and you have someone that's politically aligned with you and they're politically motivated, almost any argument will do.
tim pool
She's going before, I guess, a Democrat judge appointed by Bill Clinton.
timothy albarino
That's convenient.
phil labonte
She'll get at it.
eric burlison
I mean, it's really a shame.
It's really shameful.
I mean, it's kind of like Comey, too.
It's like these people have ruined their lives and their careers by making these decisions.
And it's wild.
At some point, how did you get to the place where you have such an upside-down perspective on reality like she did?
tim pool
It's a cult, man.
eric burlison
It is a cult.
tim pool
Let me ask you.
You're in Congress, and the complaint we have with the Republicans, they don't seem to do much.
But to be fair...
In all seriousness, I do prefer a political party that does little compared to what the Democrats do.
And the issue I see right now with the Democratic Party is they seem to do nothing but oppose.
They're not offering things up.
Like that RFK Jr. hearing where he yelled at that woman.
He's like, you've been trying to get artificial dyes out for 20 years.
I did it 100 days.
You should be praising me.
Nope.
Nope.
You're bad.
So we're going to oppose you.
Trump says, I'm going to sign an executive order to negotiate drug prices down.
And they got mad at him.
Why?
eric burlison
What is this?
tim pool
You work with these people.
eric burlison
Their brain is broken, right?
Is that going to get you in trouble?
No.
Their brain is broken.
These are the same people that would not applaud the young boy who had brain cancer who was being deputized as a U.S. marshal.
How could you sit there and protest?
tim pool
I don't see how Democrats muster up anything for 2028 because there's no message.
There's no mission.
mary morgan
If they lean into class warfare and true left-wing populism, they would clean up, but they're not willing to divorce themselves from identity politics yet?
Is the humiliation not thorough enough?
tim pool
I don't know that they have politics.
It's just whatever Trump is, they're opposite.
eric burlison
They don't have a consistent policy or philosophy, a political philosophy that they're governed by.
tim pool
I agree with what you're saying, but my point is their intention is not to be for identity politics.
It's because we're against it.
mary morgan
I disagree.
I mean, I think that they are truly hateful people.
tim pool
Yes.
mary morgan
I do hate white men.
That is true.
tim pool
But that's because Trump is a white man.
mary morgan
It's not just because Trump is a white man.
tim pool
I think for some of these people, you're probably correct.
Or I should say, for some of these people, they genuinely hate white people and they're in the cause.
But I would argue that for most liberal or Democrat voters, they would abandon the anti-white stuff the moment Trump was out of the picture.
mary morgan
That wasn't true when Biden was in office.
tim pool
The default libs?
unidentified
I...
mary morgan
Wait, are you...
tim pool
I'm saying like there's an activist base that is anti-white.
mary morgan
Yeah.
tim pool
And then there's default libs that just vote for whatever the machine tells them to vote for.
And the default libs are clueless to these politics.
They don't care.
But they hate Trump, so they vote for whatever the libs want.
mary morgan
Not sure if I agree about the default libs.
They're more extreme than you might.
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
I think they're culty.
I think they're ignorant.
They don't know.
phil labonte
Yeah, I think I'm actually on Mary's side on this.
I do think that they have the desire...
To look at people as the other, so they look at Republicans overall as the other, and you can see it in a lot of people that post on TikTok, a lot of them, and they tend to be awful, you know, affluent, white, urban, liberal women, and they say some of the most terrible racist things, but because it's directed at white people, it's perfectly acceptable.
And they're there.
Tim's right.
There is a culty aspect to them because they go.
You can check the list of all the appropriate views.
And if they have all the appropriate views, then they can say terrible things.
I forget who made the quote, but there is something...
That is extremely alluring to people to be able to be terrible to other people and feel like you have the moral high ground.
You're being virtuous by being terrible to people.
And right now, conservatives, MAGA people are in that group, and it's focused on white people.
And so anytime they get the opportunity to be condescending, hateful, and just...
Absolutely awful.
They do.
And it's like a psychological treat.
I forget who said that.
That was the quote they used.
It was the most delectable psychological treat, is what they said.
But people do.
If you can feel morally superior and be absolutely terrible to someone else and feel like you're doing it and you're right in doing it because they are bad, it's something that some people just can't pass up.
tim pool
In Congress, do you reach out to Democrats and try to get them on board with your projects, your bills?
eric burlison
Yeah, just today, Jared Golden and I had a conversation in the hallway about...
I'm working on a data privacy bill for the data that your car collects.
I don't know if you're aware of this, but if you buy a new vehicle today, they're tracking so much information about you.
Your driving habits, where you went.
I mean, they could tell that you went to Taco Bell last night and that you gained 10 pounds, right?
And what you were listening to along the way.
And then they're broadcasting that through a sell signal back to the mothership, right?
To whatever car company you bought it from.
And then they sell it on the market, right?
mary morgan
Do you mean buying it new?
And how new?
eric burlison
So I think I've heard that this pattern has been happening since 2021.
Okay.
Vehicles since 2021, not every make, but more and more, more makes of cars are doing this.
They're monetizing your data.
And so people need to know that.
tim pool
Did you know that Facebook knows when you have to poop?
Not a joke.
mary morgan
What, when you start scrolling?
tim pool
No.
So there are things that we don't realize are associated with behaviors.
But when Facebook brings in one billion people, And then takes the data from all of them.
eric burlison
Wow.
tim pool
It can see like...
So this is actually a story that's pretty old.
Facebook's been able to do this for a long time.
It can predict when a person will get up and go to the bathroom because it's got a billion people and it's watching everything they do.
And it can discern that when your GPS shows you get up from your workspace and then walk and then sit down for 10 minutes and then walk again, they're like, that was a potty break.
So now it's tracked all of the behaviors everyone's done before that.
eric burlison
Wow.
tim pool
It even knows where you'll eat.
Facebook can predict which local restaurant you'll go to.
You might be sitting there at work and then someone's like, we got Arby's, Burger King, Blaze Pizza, what do you want to hit up?
And then you're going, oh man, let's go Blaze Pizza.
That sounds good.
Facebook already knew.
It already knew because there's certain behaviors that you'll do that you don't realize are associated with a certain kind of food.
But the AI can predict it with high probability.
It's nuts.
phil labonte
Zuckerberg's literally waiting inside for you at the table.
He knows which table you're going to go to as well.
mary morgan
It's like I brought my sweet baby rays.
tim pool
Yeah.
That was weird, wasn't it?
eric burlison
One thing if you know as the consumer, if you are prepared and you know and you've consented to that and you say, I know you're going to, like, Google.
Everybody knows you have Gmail.
Everybody knows that you're giving up all of your information to Google and they're going to sell it, right?
Monetize it.
And that's part of, like, the consent.
But I don't think people know that their car is tracking them.
tim pool
Yeah.
eric burlison
And I think that people need to know.
tim pool
But your weight.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Did you ever accidentally, like, put your hand down on the passenger seat or something or on the backseat and it puts the seatbelt warning up?
Yeah.
So I had a bunch of books.
No, it was Life magazines.
And I put in the passenger seat, and then it was like, put on a seatbelt.
Because it's weighing you.
You know, it would be hilarious, though.
Elon should do this.
If you gain a lot of weight, it should...
Put him up being like, in the past month you've gained seven pounds.
Put down the fork.
eric burlison
Show the face of Bobby Kennedy Jr.
Don't eat that.
tim pool
The one in the shadows.
The one where he's coming out of the shadows looking at you.
phil labonte
Straight top down.
All the shadows in his face.
tim pool
The Kubrick stare.
phil labonte
You're eating too much.
Down the Big Mac.
unidentified
I know it's delicious.
tim pool
I know we're laughing about it, but I think that's genuinely where we're going as a civilization with AI and automation.
You're gonna pick up your phone.
You're gonna be like, I gotta go to work.
You're gonna go on Uber.
It's gonna be called Uber Auto.
The car will be self-driven.
You'll sit down in it, and you'll just have your eyes half, you know, just glazed over and half closed, and then all of a sudden the car will turn left and go into a Starbucks.
It'll pull up, automatically transmit the data, then a robot arm will reach into the car, and it'll give you a mocha frappuccino, and you'll be like, I did want one of these.
phil labonte
You know, I wouldn't mind the car telling me if I put on, you know, a couple pounds, so I didn't have to wait until the mirror told me, because that is gradual, and it slowly happens.
Then just one day you're like, Oh, no.
I've gained seven or eight pounds, and I've got to go spend a whole bunch of time at the gym.
If it was just two or three pounds, it's like you gained a couple pounds.
All right, well, I'm going to go to the gym and take care of this before it gets bad.
eric burlison
So back to your question about do we work with Democrats.
I'll tell you, one of my favorite moments of the day is going into the member gym because it's like I'll be lifting weights side by side with Democrats, right?
And at that time, it's just getting to know each other on a personal level.
mary morgan
Wow, I didn't know that Democrats went to the gym?
eric burlison
Yeah, but there's probably more Republicans, but there are...
mary morgan
Wild.
tim pool
Yeah, but look, obviously all the Republicans are ripped, and they're doing heavy curls, and the Democrats are probably lifting five-pound weights.
mary morgan
Lifting weights made you a fascist.
eric burlison
I'll tell you, Lou Carrera from California, great guy.
He's a great guy, and he's pretty stout.
Especially at his age, he is a strong individual.
tim pool
Stout also implies short, doesn't it?
eric burlison
I don't know.
To me, when I see Stout, I think of like...
tim pool
Robust.
No, that can mean fat.
eric burlison
Like...
tim pool
Broad.
Broad works.
eric burlison
Right.
Thick.
mary morgan
Do you think that instinct to collaborate and build bridges is kind of a one-sided feeling?
eric burlison
Do I...
mary morgan
The Democrats don't feel that way.
eric burlison
There's some.
And I think that even on a personal level, like...
AOC and I, for example, we don't align on nearly anything.
Now, we do on the UAP topic and some privacy issues, but we still find...
I mean, you find a way to be nice as a human being to the people that you're working with, even when you're disagreeing with them adamantly.
But when the cameras turn on, because I'm on oversight committee, and when people have their five minutes...
It's become clickbait, right?
It's performative.
It's performative, and I can go into a whole thing about this.
tim pool
The camera is like a full moon, and when it turns on, they're sitting there talking to you, and they're like, hey man, you know, there's a really great clip, and the camera turns on, and they...
phil labonte
Well, that's the thing.
They want to be able to clip it for the internet, and then they can act normal outside of the clip.
tim pool
I call that evil.
phil labonte
Well...
There's a lot of people that behave that way.
eric burlison
I think that one of the most messed up parts about D.C. is the committee process because I came from a state legislature where when you have a bill or you have a topic come through, you literally have members that are sitting there and they're asking questions, thoughtful questions, trying to understand the text of the bill, understand the perspective of the different.
People that might be affected, and they come up and testify.
And so you truly are fact-finding.
In Congress, that is not happening.
In general, it's all about you get five minutes of time, and you better make your five minutes interesting.
And otherwise, you're not truly—there's no opportunity to actually get anywhere.
tim pool
This is the kind of stuff that makes me want to run for Congress.
You know, I was talking to Rep Massey today, and he was like, you guys are getting another three-day weekend.
Is that what's going on?
They canceled the vote?
eric burlison
Well, I'm still working tomorrow.
tim pool
But you don't have to.
eric burlison
Yeah, they canceled the vote because they can't decide what to do.
tim pool
It was like a four-day week, now it's a three-day week.
And I was like, man, you're making it sound like a great job.
phil labonte
Is that another chance to get the Hearing Protection Act in there?
Can you slide that in there?
eric burlison
That's right now, I'm trying to do everything I can to get that in there.
tim pool
Hearing Protection Act, very important.
phil labonte
It's very important.
Silencers are personal protective equipment.
Suppressors.
Cans are...
Protective equipment.
They're important.
tim pool
It's about safety, right?
phil labonte
It is about safety.
It unironically is about safety.
eric burlison
And saving money on Medicare, spending money on hearing aids.
Yep, absolutely.
phil labonte
That and the short act are very important in my opinion.
tim pool
You know, a real quick question before we move to the next subject.
I always wondered with these big omnibus bills, remember that one that was like 5,000 pages?
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Why can't you just slide in, like, one piece of paper that says something?
phil labonte
Exactly what we're trying to do.
tim pool
Right, exactly.
unidentified
That's what I'm saying.
tim pool
Just slide in that one paper that says, like, you know, you can buy a silencer.
phil labonte
Just abolish the ATF.
eric burlison
I'll tell you.
phil labonte
Abolish the ATF.
Just abolish the NFA.
One sentence.
unidentified
One line.
phil labonte
The heart takes one line.
eric burlison
The real unfortunate thing is often that does happen, but it's...
From industry.
It's the things you don't want.
It's the swampy stuff that you say.
How did that get in there?
phil labonte
That's the thing.
Like, we talk about why things are the way they are in D.C. or on this table frequently.
And it's like, these omnibus bills make everybody in Congress happy because you can throw a bunch of gunk in there, right?
And you don't have to be responsible for the bad stuff.
So when your constituents say, hey, you know, how did you get, how did this pass?
How come you didn't vote against it?
How come you voted for it?
Well, it was in the omnibus, and I had to because, first of all, we didn't want to shut the government.
And second of all, there was all these things that we do want that were in there and you have to make trades.
And that's the way that it goes.
timothy albarino
And it's intentionally voluminous so that it's impossible to read.
It's daunting to try and read what's in it.
And I don't understand why in Congress we haven't had just single issue bills.
That, to me, makes the most sense.
Just one at a time, one issue at a time.
phil labonte
Because then they have to answer for the bills.
timothy albarino
They can't cram a bunch of ancillary stuff into it.
phil labonte
If you have single-line bills, then Congress people are then going to have to go back to their constituents and say, I voted for it because of this, or I voted against it because of this.
And in every...
There are people that are going to be for and against it, and it's easier if you don't have to answer for the bills.
It's the same reason that Congress doesn't declare war anymore.
They gave the president, they created a law to give the president the authority to go to war, which the Constitution does not give the president the authority to do that, and it doesn't give the Congress the authority to get out of voting to declare war.
But they created that.
Gave it to the president and every president since George Bush has been riding on that same authorization.
And it's because they don't want to have to vote, because it's easier to go to Congress, not actually have to put your name on anything, so that way you don't have to be responsible for anything.
Joe Biden was the exact same thing.
The reason why they wanted Joe Biden, or one of the reasons why they wanted Joe Biden, is because Joe Biden was a rubber stamp for whatever the Democrats wanted to do, and Joe Biden wasn't going to be responsible, and no one else was going to be responsible either.
No one could tell you who was actually making the calls in the Biden administration, because it wasn't Joe Biden, because he was...
Completely incapable of doing it.
And the people behind him could just point at each other.
tim pool
Let's jump to this next story from the Daily Mail.
Trump derangement syndrome to be studied under new bill.
How to tell if you've got symptoms.
Symptoms of so-called TDS.
Yes, they say finally to get to the bottom of this rep, Warren Davidson from Ohio introduced the Trump Derangement Syndrome Research Act of 2025 to study the phenomenon.
TDS has divided families, the country, and led to nationwide violence, including two assassination attempts on President Trump, he told the Daily Mail in a statement.
His proposal seeks to leverage the National Institute of Health's existing programs to study the purported disorder.
Were you familiar with this one?
eric burlison
I was not.
This is new to me.
And Warren, he's a good friend.
He's one of the more brilliant members of Congress.
My guess is this is sometimes members will file a bill that's like just making a statement.
tim pool
Can't force a vote on it, can you?
eric burlison
I mean, not without really making a lot of people angry.
tim pool
See, that's the one thing that really makes me want to be in Congress, just for one term, so I can make everybody angry.
I would cause a sea, and the problem is people might enjoy that I'm there and want to keep me there.
I wouldn't want to stay, you know?
But, you know, those five minutes you get in those hearings, I'd probably be just paddle-balling.
You know, just doing weird stuff.
And I'm like, guys, honestly.
eric burlison
Five minutes.
tim pool
I got five minutes, and I'm going to get a record for the most amount of paddle balls in five minutes.
Film it.
I want to put it on X. That's my goal.
phil labonte
Bring a skateboard and just do ollies.
Right on the floor.
eric burlison
For five minutes.
tim pool
I got a fingerboard right here.
Let's get some tricks in.
eric burlison
That's very Alex Stein.
tim pool
Yes!
eric burlison
That would be very Alex Stein to do.
tim pool
Alex Stein should run.
eric burlison
He should.
tim pool
Because he needs to be sitting there yelling at everybody.
eric burlison
He could troll Dan Crenshaw every day.
tim pool
That's what we need.
I don't know if he could win, though.
Maybe.
eric burlison
Who knows?
tim pool
I mean, maybe his campaign can be guys.
Look.
It doesn't work.
Just send me.
Who cares?
timothy albarino
What's the difference?
eric burlison
Have you seen the girl that is running against Crenshaw in Texas, Valentina Gomez?
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
I think we've had her on the show a couple times.
eric burlison
She is really fascinating to watch and hilarious.
phil labonte
You are too kind.
She is hilarious.
She is hilarious.
But, look, I know that the house is where people can be more colorful.
I'd have more personality than the Senate.
The Senate's got their nose in the air.
I'm not sure that Valentina is ready for the House of Representatives.
mary morgan
Why?
phil labonte
Because she's a nutbag.
mary morgan
I mean, she's kind of spicy.
phil labonte
She is kind of spicy.
mary morgan
The entertainment value.
eric burlison
Yeah, I'm not going to disagree with you, but I'll tell you, when she was running for, she was running for like state, Secretary of State of Missouri a couple years ago.
And like after the first speech that I saw in front of a forum in front of all these Republicans, I was like, that was a very different speech.
It was hilarious.
She's really funny.
And so each time, well, she was making some people mad and a lot of people had that attitude that she's, what is she doing?
She's not going to win.
There's no way.
I'll tell you, every time she would get up to give a speech, I would elbow the person next to me and say, This is going to be good.
phil labonte
Look, I mean, I could be wrong.
Maybe she would be like Donald Trump and she would get in.
But I do think, unless it's a safe, like a very safe Republican district that she's running in, I wouldn't want to risk losing a House member because the...
eric burlison
That's fair.
phil labonte
The House is...
The lead is so narrow now, you know?
So, personally, that's my opinion.
mary morgan
You don't think she'd be reliable?
phil labonte
No, I'm not sure that she would win, is what I'm saying.
mary morgan
Oh, yeah.
phil labonte
So if it's a race where, unless it's very, very safety Republican district.
mary morgan
She's a base Zoomer queen.
tim pool
What district does Crinch on?
eric burlison
I don't know the numbers there, but yeah.
unidentified
He is in District 2?
tim pool
Texas 2nd?
mary morgan
She has an edge because she has a third eye.
tim pool
It is R plus 12. Let's go.
timothy albarino
I think at this point, the American people will take anybody other than status quo.
tim pool
Yeah.
timothy albarino
I think the American people are sick and tired of normative politicians.
tim pool
I'd take Mary, and she's a woman.
mary morgan
Over Dan Crenshaw?
I would hope so, yeah.
phil labonte
I think you're right, but I think that one of the things that we've been talking about this a lot is...
The fact that Donald Trump has shown that presidents can do things.
Like, for a long time, presidents would get elected and they'd be like, oh, you know, I couldn't do it because of this or I couldn't do it because of that.
timothy albarino
But they're just puppets of the intelligence community.
phil labonte
Yeah.
And now the American people are like, no, I don't believe you anymore because Donald Trump went in and made all these executive orders.
And of course, it's up to Congress to codify them.
But whether it be stuff that makes the right happy or it makes the left happy, like the...
Prescription drug stuff that he just did.
That's something that can be done and that presidents or politicians have been promising forever and ever.
And Trump has shown that, look, if you are motivated to do things, the president does have fairly expansive powers.
And if Congress or if the judiciary fights you on it, you can fight them back legally in the court and stuff.
tim pool
Right now, Donald Trump, his administration, are trying to take any possible interpretation of the law they can to move their agenda forward, while the judiciary is creating unconstitutional universal injunctions to do whatever they can to stop the executive branch.
And Congress is sitting on the bleachers eating popcorn.
eric burlison
This is true.
tim pool
You know, there's supposed to be a third branch to intervene.
Hold on.
And I suppose what we want to see is the codification and legislating that is towards Trump's agenda.
But it doesn't happen.
eric burlison
Yeah.
And the answer that we are given from leadership is that, well, that will never pass the Senate.
So they make the political calculation ahead of time.
And the reason is when they backtrack it, they say, well, we don't want to put our vulnerable members on a bad vote or on a vote that they might.
That might cause them conflict.
And so therefore we're not going to take that fight unless we can win it.
tim pool
Democrats had a committee to go after J6ers.
Republicans have never had a committee to go after the far left.
Notably the M29 insurrectionists who firebombed the White House grounds in St. John's Church.
They nearly torched a historic church.
They torched a guard post at the White House.
Nothing.
phil labonte
The Democrats made fun of it the next day.
Oh, the bunker boy.
They called the president bunker boy because he was being attacked by far leftists.
The White House was being attacked by far leftists, and they moved the president to the bunker, which the Secret Service is going to do.
The president doesn't have the ability to stop them, and then the media makes fun of him for it.
It's insane.
timothy albarino
I think the Republicans are making the wrong calculation.
I think being more ferocious and controversial, you get the people behind you.
You know, it's not...
And I think there's a lot of them are afraid that the way they're going to be viewed, the way their colleagues are going to view them, they don't want to be seen as too extreme, too MAGA.
But this is a different time.
I mean, you have to get the people behind you, and that's what the Democrats do.
They rile up their base, they get behind these pet issues, and they get extreme, and it works for them, and they're very, very tenacious.
tim pool
I think it's my fault.
phil labonte
Pardon me?
tim pool
I think it's my fault.
phil labonte
Shame on you.
tim pool
I think that what we need to do on shows like this is just actively primary anyone who stands in the way.
And that is our fault because what they're scared of, the calculation that you're mentioning, is the New York Times is going to write bad things about me and then I'm going to lose my race.
And it's like, okay, let's see what we here at the Timcast IRL can do to your race if you want to side with the New York Times.
phil labonte
You're that House Ways and Means Committee?
tim pool
So, I guess we'll just have to start.
You know, I talked about doing it before, but I think the issue is the corporate press has no problem being overtly political and causing these problems for people who fall in line.
And for shows like this, we're all disparate.
We're all independent.
We don't coordinate with anybody.
The New York Times is one big top-down thing.
Maybe we need to.
Maybe we need to start putting some of these members on blast and say, we're going to make sure you never win another race.
eric burlison
They're politicians.
They're like cows.
they're not going to move unless you create some kind of, you know, penalty or, or some kind of force to move them.
Whenever I first ran for the state house in Missouri, I was, you know, the people that give you advice, the advisors, the long time political consultants said, okay, don't really take a position.
Like they would tell you to be very vague in your positions so that you don't box yourself in.
And then they would tell you once, when you're elected, don't, Don't sponsor anything very difficult and certainly don't co-sponsor because everything you do will more likely have a negative consequence.
So don't do anything controversial or big.
And that's kind of been the mantra and the attitude.
Trump, I think, has changed that.
And I think the American people have been sick and tired of politicians who just want to keep their job.
tim pool
Yeah.
eric burlison
Because that's the attitude of somebody that just wants the job.
It's not the attitude of somebody that's trying to save the country.
And so we need more people that want to save the country and are not and are OK with the fact that it may mean that they go home.
phil labonte
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know how we get more people into Congress like that, but I do think that the idea of primarying people for, you know, not following through or doing.
Yeah.
You know, that are, say, again, anti-Second Amendment.
I don't see any problem with, you know, at least bringing it up on shows like this and making people aware.
Because for the most part, your average person doesn't know who is...
Who are the actual people that are responsible for, you know, why didn't this pass or why didn't this bill get pushed forward?
Like, are there responsible people?
And there are people that are responsible.
And it usually comes down to just a few people or even one person that had the connections to be able to say, no, we're going to put this on the shelf, you know, whether it be the speaker or whether it be the chairman of a committee or something like that.
And those people need to be, you know, need to be put on blast when they do things that their constituents don't like.
tim pool
Let's jump to this next story from, is it Live Science?
I think it's Live Science.
The sun just spat out the strongest solar flares of 2025, and more could be headed toward Earth.
The sun has released several powerful M and X-class solar flares over the past few days, resulting in radio blackouts around the world.
They say on Tuesday, a sunspot on the sun's surface named AR4086 exploded, releasing an X1.2 class solar flare, part of the most powerful category of flare.
Then during the early hours of Wednesday, another sunspot named AR4087 sped on an M5.3.
3 flare, followed by an even more powerful X2.7 flare, and yet another M7.7 a few hours later.
The radiation of these solar flares triggered radio blackouts on the sun-facing side of the planet at the time of the flares, affecting North and South America, Europe, Africa, and the Middle East, and Southeast Asia.
So, uh...
A lot of people are freaking out over the story.
They're saying it's going to be one of the biggest we've seen in a long time.
And there's also a lot of concern about the power outages that we've seen in Europe, in Puerto Rico.
I don't know if you guys have talked to anybody about this related to UAP phenomenon or anything related to this.
But this stuff seems to be pretty hot right now relating to...
There's a conspiracy theory called the Adam and Eve story.
Are you familiar with this one?
eric burlison
No.
tim pool
You're familiar with it?
Every 6,500 years, there's a...
Polar shift, the planet tilts or something.
And then the magnetosphere weakens, and then we get blasted by solar radiation, destroying technology, and then a flood happens.
unidentified
Hmm.
Yeah.
timothy albarino
Yeah, there's various theories of cyclic cataclysm.
That's one of them.
unidentified
Yeah.
timothy albarino
Another theory is that there's a body that enters our solar system.
Maybe it's on an elliptical path around the sun.
It flies out.
tim pool
Is that their biru?
timothy albarino
Something like that.
It could be a large asteroid.
And when it comes into the neighborhood of the planets in our solar system, it wreaks havoc.
The gravitational pull and so forth.
But I think it's clear that cyclic cataclysm is a reality.
tim pool
Do you think...
You heard about the power outages across Europe?
Or it was Spain, France, and Portugal?
timothy albarino
I didn't hear about that.
tim pool
All their power got knocked out.
timothy albarino
When did this happen?
tim pool
Was it a week ago?
phil labonte
Last week, yeah.
timothy albarino
It was from a solar flare?
tim pool
No, I don't know.
They said it was...
What was it?
Atmospheric oscillation triggering mechanical failure or something?
They said a rare atmospherical phenomenon triggered some failsafe which knocked the power out from southern France across Spain and Portugal.
And I was talking to Ben Davidson.
He's the space weather guy.
Are you familiar with him by chance?
timothy albarino
No.
tim pool
Space weather guy.
He said similarly we saw Puerto Rico had all their power knocked out the week prior.
So what he surmises is that the magnetosphere has weakened.
Because we are in the midst of a polar shift, and that it's not solar flares, it's just normal solar activity is penetrating the planet.
What do you think is going to happen?
timothy albarino
You know, this whole idea of a pole shift, I find it to be compelling.
I do.
I do believe we are in a period of time called a syntelia, and this is a thousand-year period of time, and this goes back to the ancient Greeks, all the way back to the ancient Egyptians, the ancient Mesopotamians, in which cataclysm will befall within these thousand years.
And this is based on the zodiac.
This is what the zodiac tracks.
The ancients knew this.
It tracks cataclysm, like civilization ending cataclysm.
And I think it's happened many times before in the Earth's past, and we are scheduled.
We're within that period of time.
And whether it's a pole shift or whether it's, like I said, an object coming into the solar system, I do believe something is...
mary morgan
What about the 2033 asteroid?
timothy albarino
Apophis?
mary morgan
Is that its name?
tim pool
Really?
Is it seriously calling it Apophis?
timothy albarino
I think it's called Apophis.
If that's the one you're referring to.
Who came up with that?
Supposedly, and maybe they've readjusted the calculation, isn't it supposed to pass closer to the Earth, like between the moon and the Earth?
mary morgan
This says the next approach close to Earth will be 2028, which is not a concern, but there is an estimated 2.3% chance of impact in 2032?
phil labonte
2036, April 13th.
eric burlison
Wow.
phil labonte
So, Pophis would pass through a gravitational keyhole estimated to be 800 meters in diameter, this is Wikipedia, which would have set up a future impact exactly seven years later on Easter Sunday, April 13th, 2036.
tim pool
It's going to come within 20,000 miles of the Earth's surface.
That's actually extremely close.
phil labonte
Very, very, very close.
unidentified
Whoa.
eric burlison
So a 23% chance it comes in contact?
That's disturbing.
timothy albarino
3%, I think they said.
What is it?
mary morgan
I think they said it was going to hit Africa, so we don't have anything to worry about.
phil labonte
So it's 450 meters.
tim pool
Sorry, just so you guys understand, the moon is 238,900 miles away.
phil labonte
Yeah.
timothy albarino
Yeah, so it's passing much closer to the Earth and the Moon.
tim pool
90%.
timothy albarino
And, you know, it makes you wonder, is this the reason why so many billionaires have been building bunkers?
tim pool
That's what I've been talking about.
timothy albarino
Yeah, and it's true.
It's happening.
A lot of people are building bunkers.
A lot of billionaires and multimillionaires have been building bunkers, and they've been doing it for the last decade.
What do they know that the rest of us don't?
tim pool
It could just be that when you've got buckets of money, you just do things.
timothy albarino
I don't think so, not in this case.
mary morgan
Is it not related to just nuclear threat?
timothy albarino
No, I think it's some sort of impending cataclysm that somebody knows about, you know, let's call them the elites, the globalist elite understand that there's a cataclysm coming.
Maybe that is why their behavior seems to be so reckless, too, because they know that cataclysm is coming.
tim pool
Let me ask you a question.
Have you seen the proposed, like, future map of North America after the poll shift?
timothy albarino
I don't know if I've seen that, no.
tim pool
I don't want to give any legitimacy to it, but it's an interesting idea.
The idea is that if the planet shifts, so the cataclysmic theory is the poles shift.
We know they do.
However, mainstream scientists say once every 800,000 years, so we haven't got nothing to worry about.
However, the cataclysm theorists say it's 6,500, and we're actually in the midst of it.
We've got this story from a Smithsonian real quick.
Earth's magnetic pole is shifting towards Siberia, so...
People are naturally saying this.
The argument from the cataclysmic theorists is that the planet will tilt.
North America will become the southern hemisphere.
Florida will be, I think, cold.
And Canada will be like Mexico.
Antarctica will be on the equator.
This movement causes all the water to basically slosh very quickly around, creating great floods.
And there's a proposed future map of North America based on this, where you basically have...
The North America, the United States becomes like split in two different major bodies of water.
So there's like three chunks.
Water runs through it.
California's flooded.
Florida's gone.
Well, no, Florida's not gone, but flooded.
And I was thinking about this, and I got a question for you.
If there were to be a cataclysm, what's the most important technology we should be mass producing right now to recover civilization after a cataclysm?
timothy albarino
Spaceships.
Or underground cities.
tim pool
Well, did you hear about Catherine Austin Fitz on Tucker Carlson?
eric burlison
Yes.
tim pool
And she said they spent 21...
They're called dumbs.
Deep underground military bases.
But I understand about bases.
That's where the people go.
Technology-wise, what should we be building to reestablish civilization after the cataclysm and we emerge from the bunkers?
eric burlison
I think that we need to race to, I mean, this is going to sound really sci-fi, but I think the fact that we have discovered the Higgs boson particle, actually, I think it was discovered, what, 12 years ago?
I mean, that's the particle, that's the field that gives mass to matter, right?
And I think that we need to really juice the advanced theory in order to create things like...
Gravity warp bubbles and things like that, right?
tim pool
Right, but if civilization collapses, none of that matters, right?
So what technology do you guys think we would have to mass produce right now so that if civilization collapsed, we emerge from our bunkers a year later, what do we need first and foremost?
timothy albarino
That's a really good question.
tim pool
Actually, a really easy answer.
phil labonte
Well, I'm thinking something like hydroponics so that way you can make sure that you can grow food.
tim pool
What do you need to grow food?
phil labonte
You need water.
tim pool
And how do you get water?
phil labonte
Well, there's a lot of different ways.
You can get it out of the atmosphere.
You can get it out of...
tim pool
Okay.
How would you, as a human being, pull water from the atmosphere?
phil labonte
Personally?
tim pool
There's actually one thing all civilizations need, first and foremost.
It's energy.
phil labonte
Well, yeah.
Okay.
tim pool
Okay, so what kind of energy source would we need to mass produce right now if we're preparing for a cataclysm?
phil labonte
I think solar would be good.
tim pool
Solar and wind.
Yeah, we would need to...
Convince everybody to start mass-producing solar and wind, because without transmission lines and without transportation lines, petroleum ain't gonna save you.
So the first thing we need to do is, how do we convince the entire Western population to just start producing wind and solar?
Because we're gonna build these underground cities, and then after the cataclysm, power lines are gone, petroleum, we're not gonna know where it is, we're gonna have no means, perhaps satellite, But once we locate it, we don't got the trucks, we don't got the roads.
The first thing we'll need is electricity.
We put up some wind turbines, and we've instantly got a continual source of energy or solar panels.
phil labonte
Right.
tim pool
Now, how do we convince people to start shifting the economy towards a direction?
timothy albarino
The climate change narrative.
tim pool
So this is where it gets really funny.
The climate change narrative has never come true.
They keep saying it every 10 years.
It just don't happen.
And I start thinking about it, and I'm like...
How do you convince a market economy to start building something unprofitable?
You don't, unless the end is not.
timothy albarino
Unless you scare them, yeah.
tim pool
But if you told people that there actually was a pole shift coming and we were going to face a cataclysm, they'd stop working.
Truck drivers would stop driving trucks.
timothy albarino
No, that's a very good theory.
tim pool
So, you know, theory, but it was an idea.
I was thinking, like, when I was reading all this stuff, I'm just thinking, not that I think it's going to happen.
I don't know.
But I was just thinking about this pole shift.
I was watching that Tucker Carlson episode with Catherine Austin Fitz saying they spent $21 trillion on deep underground cities.
You know, I think that's an exaggeration.
They're deep underground military bases.
These exist.
Elon Musk has confirmed the existence of them, the Limestone Caverns.
They exist.
And then I was thinking, like, if I was going to build a bunker, what's the first thing I would need when I got out?
I'm like, well, nothing else matters unless you have electricity.
You need energy sources.
So we'd probably want to have a lot of cables, a lot of, you know, the electronic components to run machines.
Electric cars would be great, too.
Because we're not going to have a petroleum refinery.
We are going to have alternative sources of energy.
We can charge a car off of the grid of a small series of wind turbines or solar.
And they've done it.
They've convinced everybody through legislation and cultural action to start building exactly what we would need in the event of a cataclysm.
timothy albarino
So do you think that the people who, let's say that in this thought experiment, the people who know, the people who know it's coming, do you think that they really care about the populations of Earth or just protecting themselves, their families?
tim pool
They care about the population of Earth, but come on, like, Noah's Ark, he couldn't save everybody.
timothy albarino
So you think that they would actually be bringing people down into these deep underground military bases at some point?
Yes, absolutely.
I think they care about the preservation of certain people.
Of course.
But the vast majority of people, I don't think they really...
tim pool
But that was not the question.
The question was, would they bring people down?
Of course they will.
Yeah, yeah.
There's going to be a select group of people that they deem necessary to the expansion and survival of humanity.
And it ain't going to be Joe the Plumber.
Literally that guy, Joe the Plumber.
Remember him from 10 years ago?
It's not going to be him.
Mary was 10, so she doesn't remember.
phil labonte
There was a phrase that I heard in this context.
It's just, most people are useless eaters, is what they were called.
tim pool
Oh, that was Yuval Harari?
phil labonte
Yeah, Yuval Harari.
Like, they just, people that don't do anything particularly important, right?
But there are going to be people that are, I mean, and I would be among the useless eaters.
tim pool
Well, I just want to say real quick, I mean, I think everyone agrees.
Quick-witted and charismatic individuals who can talk very well are very important for civilization.
So, you know, maybe get a phone call.
phil labonte
Maybe.
tim pool
Mount Weather is real close.
phil labonte
The fact of the matter is, in any scenario where there's going to be a large portion of the population dying off, they're going to select for people that will be beneficial to help continue the population.
The bad idea or the negative of that is when nepotism and wealth are the only factors.
You know, if you can buy your way in, you buy your way in for your family and, you know, your kid's a loser or both your kids are a loser and they're addicted to drugs.
tim pool
I don't think so.
phil labonte
I hope not, but that would be the worst case scenario is when too many people that have...
You know what I think they would do, though?
tim pool
We did talk about this before.
You know what I think they would do?
They would publicly offer up space for everybody.
And the way it would work is they'd say, public announcement, guys, you can see the weird thing happening in the sky.
Don't freak out.
We have prepared emergency bunkers.
You will be safe.
Come on down.
timothy albarino
They'll never tell you.
The population.
unidentified
No, no.
tim pool
You're coming down.
Trust me.
You come.
You get in line.
And there's a big line.
And they're going to be like, you know, Mr. Albino, right this way.
And you're going to walk in.
And they're going to say, thank you for coming.
We've got a great facility for you.
We've built it.
You and your family are welcome.
Just go through the door to my right and pay no attention to the door to the left.
And you'll go, all right.
And when you walk to the door to the right, it opens up and you go, ah!
That way you avoid any kind of civil unrest.
And then people outside are like, what happened to Tim?
It's like, they let him in.
Great!
And then someone else comes down and they say, and who are you?
It's like, I'm a rocket scientist.
I can synthesize chemicals and rocket fuel.
And they go, go to the door on the left.
And he opens it up and it's a royal palace.
mary morgan
What about those rocket scientists' families?
tim pool
Yeah, they can go with them.
mary morgan
Yep.
tim pool
Yeah, how do you avoid civil unrest if they start trying to...
bring people down to these bunkers when not everybody's going to go.
You can't just say only some are allowed because people will go out with guns and fight their way in.
You tell them everything's going to be okay.
Your door is there.
And when they walk through that door, it's right into a meat grinder.
timothy albarino
Mm-hmm.
And like I said, the ancients were tracking this cataclysm every 6,480 years according to the Zodiac.
The purpose of the Zodiac, by the way, is to track cyclic cataclysm.
It's one of the primary purposes.
And we are due.
This is what's, as I said, this is the transition of one aeon to the next, one age to the next.
tim pool
Age of Aquarius.
timothy albarino
Into the age of Aquarius, that's right, from Pisces.
We're presently in Pisces.
And when we make this transition, it will be cataclysmic.
And the ancients knew this.
And it's very possible that there's a group of people alive today who also know this.
tim pool
That song always creeped me out.
eric burlison
At the age of Aquarius.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I knew it meant something bad.
Let's jump to this next story, which is not related at all, but still fun.
Eric Davis tells Congressman Burleson he is aware of four alien species.
It's kind of hard to hear, but let's play.
unidentified
Are there multiple species?
eric burlison
Are they, like, what was their size?
And how many are usually on a crab?
unidentified
They're typically the multiple species people are familiar with.
The graze, the more people are talking about reptilians and insectoids.
It's not that they're reptilian or insectoids, it's that they resemble.
Alright, instead of just playing that video, you can tell us.
tim pool
What was he saying?
He said there's four different alien species that he knows of?
eric burlison
Yeah, that was not what I expected him to say.
I...
I...
But yeah, he said...
tim pool
So who is this guy?
eric burlison
Eric Davis has been involved in the intelligence community since the 80s, right?
timothy albarino
Yeah, for a long time.
eric burlison
For a long time, and he first worked for Bigelow Airspace, and then he went on to get work for the Pentagon, and then CIA, and basically researching what they describe as crashed material.
Retrieved crashed material.
tim pool
And he was saying definitively they know of four alien species.
Like he's saying they're real.
eric burlison
Right.
Now, whenever I pressed him and asked him, at least in that setting, he did not say that he personally has seen these, right?
But he described the four different types of...
Aliens, the greys, the Nordics, the insectoids, and the reptilians that are commonly referred to in the UFO community.
tim pool
You know what I love about this video?
Is that the person added glowing eyes to the Nordic dude?
Because if you didn't, it's just some blonde guy.
timothy albarino
Just some blonde dude, yeah.
tim pool
And that's what I love about the...
So there are people who believe that one of the alien species we encounter are these Nordics.
They're like tall, blonde, white people.
And I'm just thinking like...
Sven is a Swedish Air Force pilot and he crashes one of their experimental vessels.
And then as he's exiting it, some farmer sees him and he's like, it's an alien!
And he's like, I'm literally just Swedish Air Force.
And they're like, the Nordic aliens from Sweden.
Now, come on.
I don't understand how people could have witnessed aliens that look just like Swedish people or Norwegians and then have decided that they were aliens.
timothy albarino
Well, if they see them on board alien craft, that would do it.
tim pool
No, but it's just like...
phil labonte
Very tall.
tim pool
If I woke up and I was in some strange hovering craft and there was just a bunch of random white dudes with black hair, I wouldn't be like, aliens are white people with black hair.
I'd be like, oh, humans have built hovercraft, okay?
timothy albarino
Well, there's some distinctions for sure.
I mean, all of these, and by the way, people who've studied, researched ufology for a long time, these are precisely the four that we would expect Davis to acknowledge.
tim pool
But could it just be he's just saying what you want to hear?
timothy albarino
I doubt that he would do that.
He's a very serious individual.
He and Hel Puthoff have been in the—they've had access to projects, knowledge of projects, and been working behind the scenes with the government, various institutions, private and public, on this for a long time.
And they're very serious scientists, both of these guys.
Highly credentialed.
tim pool
So do you believe that these four alien species are real?
timothy albarino
I would say, for me personally, the first three, absolutely 100%.
tim pool
Not the reptilian ones.
timothy albarino
I'm not sure about reptilians.
A lot of people talk about reptilians, but there's actually quite a lot of, I would say, anecdotal evidence for the existence of the greys, of the Nordics, and of the insectoids, or what the late David Jacobs, or he's not dead yet, Dr. David Jacobs calls insectilins, which are these, which are, like, they're sometimes referred to as the mantis beings.
And these are encounters, especially the greys and the mantis beings, are actually encountered quite often on board vessels, on board alien vessels.
And the Nordics aren't just, it's not just like you're looking at Scandinavian people, they're telepathic.
All communication with these things is telepathic.
eric burlison
And I've heard that they don't exactly look like a human.
timothy albarino
No, no, there's some subtle differences, yeah.
eric burlison
They would not just blend in to the population.
No.
And I'm not saying I believe it.
I'm just saying that's what I've been told.
tim pool
What if they're just people from the future?
eric burlison
I think that's an interesting thought experiment, right?
That what we're experiencing are future generations of humans who have mastered time travel.
And if you mastered time travel today, wouldn't you want to go back and see what was going on in history?
I would.
tim pool
You'd have to.
eric burlison
I'd want to.
I'd want to go back and see, you know, hey, I want to see what the Pharaoh really looked like.
mary morgan
Okay, this is what confounds me, though.
As someone who's not just a skeptic, but someone who just straight up doesn't believe in aliens, if that were true, would the powers that be in the intelligence agencies really just come right out and talk about it so openly?
tim pool
They don't, though.
mary morgan
Well, we just heard that.
tim pool
This guy's former, isn't he?
timothy albarino
Well, no.
mary morgan
You're never former intelligence.
timothy albarino
Well, I mean, what's happened is we've had two hearings now.
And we've had whistleblowers come forth, like David Grush.
And they have forced the conversation into the public arena.
They forced the conversation.
Then you have guys like Congressman Burleson and his colleagues who are fighting for disclosure.
Without that battle, without that effort, you wouldn't be hearing about any of this.
You wouldn't have these guys coming forward.
You wouldn't have...
Eric Davis coming forward and making these declarations.
I wouldn't necessarily call it a declaration.
He was answering your question.
But this is a new environment.
We're in a new space now, you know, post hearings, post UAP hearings.
And so five years ago, I would have agreed with you, but that's just not the case anymore.
tim pool
I think the reason they don't say it is because, just put it this way, how would you feel if you woke up and realized you were in a rat cage your whole life?
And everything you knew was just some stupid rat experiment for somebody, you know?
Like, when we look at rats in a cage in a lab, like, we pity them.
What if everything you've ever done in your life, everything you hoped for, your dreams, you woke up tomorrow and you knew was completely meaningless?
The research you've done, the religion you held, everything was just totally nonsense.
eric burlison
So that you're living in a simulation.
timothy albarino
Yeah.
tim pool
Or, like, what if, you know, you have the rat utopia experiment?
They put all the rats in a box and gave them food and water and then watched what happens and the rats had no idea.
What if that's what we're in?
They wouldn't want to tell you because you'd lose your mind.
mary morgan
I think they would want to tell you.
That's why I think that this is a whole alien deception.
Demoralize the population.
tim pool
It's not just demoralizing.
You'd stop working.
If you're the king of the rats in the rat experiment and you like your luxuries and your boats...
You don't want the people to wake up and realize that their rats in a box would stop working.
You want them to keep working for you.
eric burlison
Yeah, you want them to continue to be non-player characters.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I jokingly told Joe Rogan that the reason the globalists want a one-world government is because we can't join the Galactic Federation until we have a unified governing body.
Because who is the Galactic Federation going to negotiate with?
Russia or the United States?
It would just cause problems.
And Joe responded with...
I don't think there's a Galactic Federation.
I said, Joe, I know I'm kidding.
But now I'm not kidding.
The Galactic Federation won't let the Earth enter because we're a pre...
What is it called?
There's a term for this.
There's the degrees of civilization or whatever.
timothy albarino
Yeah, Michiukaku talks about this.
Type 1 civilization.
tim pool
And we're like, type 0 is like when your planet unifies under one governing authority.
So we're like not even there.
We're just a bunch of...
phil labonte
Type 1 is you use the entire output of your entire...
You can manage the star that you are orbiting.
tim pool
The Dyson sphere.
phil labonte
Type 2 is where you can manage the power in your galaxy, I think, or in your solar system.
And then after that...
And it goes up from there, but it basically gets to the point...
I think Type 4 was where you can basically transcend...
tim pool
Kardashev scale.
phil labonte
That's what it is?
The Kardashev scale?
tim pool
Thank.
A Type 1 civilization is able to access all the energy available on its planet and store it for consumption.
Type 2 can consume a star's energy through the use of a Dyson sphere.
And a Type 3 can capture all the energy emitted by its galaxy and every object within it.
Yeah, but like, why would we assume a Type 3 civilization exists?
Have we witnessed ever through a telescope a galactic species?
phil labonte
But everything's really far away, man.
timothy albarino
You can't talk about this phenomenon, though, as if we're not encountering it.
That's the difference.
You can't say that this is just theoretical, that maybe...
Maybe what these whistleblowers are talking about is real.
No, many, many people at this point have experienced the phenomenon up close and personal, have seen Kraft.
The government has admitted at the very least that some of the footage that was leaked by the New York Times back in 2017 is authentic footage and so far has not been able to debunk at least two of those videos.
I think namely Gimbel and the Nimitz incident.
I mean, these are legitimate mysteries, and this is technology.
What we're seeing is technology.
mary morgan
I think only aliens are demons.
tim pool
Could be.
mary morgan
Why is that laughable?
The thing that you're saying sounds laughable to me.
eric burlison
You're asking the right person to answer that question.
timothy albarino
Yeah, I laugh because that's the most common question that I get personally.
tim pool
But they could be just called by a different name, you know?
timothy albarino
Yeah, and I would say that we have reason to believe that some of them are at the very least demonic.
mary morgan
Well, what I mean by that is the Christian understanding of a demon, which is not a physical being and can appear to be whatever they want to, to deceive people.
timothy albarino
Well, the Christian understanding, the traditional Christian understanding of a demon doesn't involve UFOs and technology either.
mary morgan
But it does involve deception.
timothy albarino
It does involve deception, certainly.
I mean, that takes us down a very intricate path.
There's a difference between the Western perspective, the Western Christian perspective of a demon.
And then if you're going to be very specific to the biblical perspective of a demon, those are very two different things.
So in the West, Christians in the West will identify anything that's scary or grotesque or nefarious as a demon or demonic in general.
Whereas in Hebrew cosmology, there's a very narrow description.
A demon is literally and exclusively the disembodied spirit of a dead giant.
eric burlison
An unclean spirit.
timothy albarino
An unclean spirit, yeah, within the context of the biblical narrative.
So we have a different definition.
eric burlison
Of the Nephilim, right?
timothy albarino
That's right.
eric burlison
The dead spirit that remains after the crossbreed between an angel and a human.
timothy albarino
And a human, yeah.
tim pool
And then what is an angel?
timothy albarino
Well, I mean, are we talking within the context of the biblical narrative?
tim pool
So as you described the demon as the spirit of the Nephilim, is that what it is?
timothy albarino
Yeah.
According to Hebrew cosmology, yes, a demon is exclusively the disembodied spirit of a dead giant, a Nephilim.
tim pool
So a Nephilim is an angel-human?
timothy albarino
A Nephilim is a hybrid.
It was the product of copulation between an angelic being and a human female.
tim pool
Then what is the angelic being in that context?
timothy albarino
Well, I would describe that angelic being as an extraterrestrial.
I mean, in the Bible you have...
In the book of Job, we read that the sons of God, the morning stars, sang.
They shouted for joy when the foundations of the earth were laid.
So that right there, we can understand from a biblical perspective that the angels pre-exist us.
And they're not from planet earth.
Their origin is not planet earth.
They come from somewhere else.
They are therefore technically extraterrestrial.
mary morgan
That doesn't mean that they have a physical form, though.
Just because they pre-exist us, in my opinion.
They're purely intellectual, purely spiritual beings who don't have a physical form, and therefore, how would they be capable of having relations with a human female?
timothy albarino
We're talking about angels here.
tim pool
Is Nephilim in the modern Christian Bible?
timothy albarino
Yes.
Genesis, there's a famous reference to Nephilim in Genesis 6. Specifically as hybrids?
eric burlison
In the Book of Enoch.
timothy albarino
Yeah, it primarily comes from the Book of Enoch.
tim pool
But they're specifically referenced as hybrids between angels?
timothy albarino
In the Book of Enoch.
tim pool
How does that reconcile if...
timothy albarino
Right.
So in the Book of Enoch, there's these 200 watchers.
They're called watchers.
That reference is found in the biblical narrative as well in the Book of Daniel.
It's a very important reference.
But in the Book of Enoch, there's 200 watchers, and these are not earthly beings.
These are heavenly beings.
They're looking down at the earth, and they are enamored of human women, of the daughters of men.
And they actually lust after them, according to the Book of Enoch.
What I call the first cause of the Watcher's transgression is lust.
They're lusting after human women.
And again, according to the Book of Enoch, they concoct this plan that they're going to descend to the earth and they're going to marry.
They're going to select a wife, each one of them, and they're going to marry these women and then they're going to copulate with them and procreate through them.
So all of this activity, I mean, it wouldn't make any sense if you didn't have a body.
If there was no corporeality.
serge du preez
Just to quickly mention, the Book of Enoch was never included in the Old Testament or the New Testament, just to be clear, because that's something that's important to mention as well.
timothy albarino
The Book of Enoch was never canonized, no, although it was adopted into the canons of the Tawahedo Orthodox Church and also the ancient Jewish Orthodox in Ethiopia.
So, I mean, there was a lot of controversy about the Book of Enoch a long time ago.
tim pool
Just to clarify, in the King James Bible, it mentions Nephilim?
timothy albarino
Yes.
tim pool
And specifically as hybrids between angels and women?
timothy albarino
Yes, Genesis 6. Well, it doesn't specifically say hybrids between angels and women.
It talks about the sons of God, that they saw that the daughters of men were fair, were comely, and they...
They married them.
They took wives from among the daughters of men.
And then there's a reference to the Nephilim.
The Nephilim were in the earth in those days.
tim pool
I just ask because, Mary, your view is that angels are purely spiritual beings?
mary morgan
Yes.
tim pool
How would the Bible describe angels taking wives if they were not physical?
eric burlison
Or eating with people.
Like, what was the angel that met with Abraham?
timothy albarino
Yeah, right.
mary morgan
I feel like we're just putting a very reductive and human view over something that just transcends our understanding.
timothy albarino
Well, it depends on what worldview you're coming from.
What is the framework of your perspective?
And if you're framing this within a biblical context, then it becomes a theological question, and we can make references to certain things that angels do within the biblical narrative and make a theological case that angels do, in fact, have corporeality.
They have physical bodies.
They do things.
They lust.
I mean, lust is a real problem for me, personally.
If you have a being that's lusting but doesn't have a body, how does that work?
I mean, how can you feel the sexual impulse without the equipment?
The fall of the angels was because of Satan's rebellion, which originated from pride.
Okay.
So the descent of these 200 watchers is a—and by the way, this— Why was Enoch not included?
That's kind of a difficult question to answer.
The easy answer is because the Jews rejected the Book of Enoch in their canon, and I think that the reason why the Jews rejected it was because it testified of the man they had crucified, namely Jesus of Nazareth.
The Book of Enoch is very complex.
It's not one singular author.
It's a compilation of texts.
And the earliest portions of the Book of Enoch were written long before the birth of Christ, at least 300 years before the birth of Christ.
But there's portions of Enoch that have a later date that are after Christ.
And so it's not a singular author.
It's not a singular manuscript.
But the earliest portions of the Book of Enoch...
Are fundamental, foundational to A, Hebrew cosmology in the narrative of the Watchers, which comes from the first Book of Enoch, the earliest manuscript, which is the Book of the Watchers, and then B, even to the eschatology of the writers of the New Testament.
Their view of the end times, their view of the role of the Messiah in the end times, much of that comes directly from the Book of Enoch.
So they were clearly influenced by the Book of Enoch.
In fact, there's a...
There's verses from the book of Enoch, from 1 Enoch, that are literally copied and pasted verbatim in the New Testament, in the book of Jude.
So clearly the writers of the New Testament were conversant with Enoch, and at least considered some of it, whether oral tradition or the written text, as scripture.
And that actually was hotly debated.
This was a matter of great contention in the early church.
Many of the church fathers believed that the book of Enoch was scripture.
Or at least had some value, and others did not.
And there was a battle that took place, and ultimately they decided to not include it in the canon.
tim pool
Do you think then that these religious texts are actually more ancient aliens?
As if aliens visited Earth and then procreated with people and did stuff to Earth?
Or do you believe it actually is mystical, spiritual, etc.?
timothy albarino
You mean any text, or are you specifically referencing the Book of Enoch?
tim pool
The Bible.
Like, Abrahamic view of religion and faith.
timothy albarino
Well, I personally, I would say that the premise of ancient astronaut theory is true.
Biblically speaking, the premise that mankind has indeed been interacting with extraterrestrial beings since the beginning.
I mean, the Bible would affirm this enthusiastically.
The text of Scripture affirms this.
In fact, this is part of the problem that we've had, because in the beginning we were deceived by one of these beings, namely Satan, the dragon, the devil, this nefarious person that's never actually named in the Bible.
So I think, again, the premise of ancient astronaut theory is true, but then I would disagree with, you know, the aliens having a hand in building the pyramids and things like that.
Although, I do believe personally that the Enochian tale, the narrative of First Enoch, specifically from the Book of the Watchers, the earliest portion, is historically true.
I personally believe that.
I do believe that 200 Watchers descended to the earth.
And took wives from among the daughters of men, copulated with them.
The women conceived and gave birth to giants.
In fact, this general narrative is found all over the ancient world.
I mean, there's a universal testimony.
This is usually framed in the context of the Golden Age, or as the ancient Egyptians referred to it as Zeptepi, the first time.
And in every case, I mean, every primary ancient civilization has a legend like this, the gods descended to the earth.
tim pool
And they were all eight feet tall or something?
timothy albarino
Well, the gods themselves, I'm not sure, but their progeny are most often described as giants.
tim pool
Were they green?
timothy albarino
I don't think so.
tim pool
Because you've got the gins and the genies in the Middle East, eight foot tall, green and blue, and then you've got Quezacotal in Central America.
And so people, I've read questions about why different cultures on the other side of the planet have similar myths of similar beings.
timothy albarino
Well, specifically, when you talk about giants, and this story in general, the narrative that I just laid out, that gods descended, cohabited with human beings, copulated with human women, and progenerated a race of giants, that is ubiquitous.
That is ubiquitous across every major ancient civilization, believed something like that, that general narrative.
tim pool
The Hindus, they believed that?
timothy albarino
Yes.
They believed that the gods, I mean, they have in the Indian epics, the gods are engaged in an epic war.
With one another using advanced technology, advanced aerospace technology, which they call Vimanas.
tim pool
And then, of course, we know the Hellenistic religions believe that, what was it, like Zeus came down disguised as a duck or something and a handsome lady?
eric burlison
And Hercules emerged.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
timothy albarino
It's the same basic narrative that you find in every ancient culture.
tim pool
Yeah, but, you know, the Hellenistic religions are so weird.
Like Zeus, what, he turned himself into a duck?
And then came down and, like, banged some woman?
I'm not kidding.
phil labonte
They did all kinds of stuff like that.
They were constantly involved in the lives of men.
timothy albarino
Yeah.
Well, you have to understand that myths are...
The myths are devised to transmit knowledge through time.
So these stories are crafted...
tim pool
Swan, sorry, not a duck.
timothy albarino
Yeah, these stories are so bizarre.
They're intentionally crafted this way so that they can be orally transmitted through time.
And the people who transmit the myths think that they're just these...
Well, in the ancient times, they believe them literally.
But when in reality, they encapsulate information, historical scientific information.
That's what myths are designed to do.
tim pool
But they can corrupt as well.
And that's probably, you know, we call that the purple monkey dishwasher phenomenon.
timothy albarino
You mean the myths can corrupt?
tim pool
Just information transmitted from generation to generation corrupts.
timothy albarino
Can be, yeah.
tim pool
Without hard data preserving it.
timothy albarino
Yeah, I would agree with that.
tim pool
And so then, these stories that you're hearing, I mean, one of the arguments you hear a lot from atheists is that the Bible, or actually not even from atheists, but from Christians, actually.
The interpretation, the converting of language in the Bible several times back and forth has resulted in certain words not being appropriate.
Like, some have argued that...
It's not seven days, it's seven eras, or seven eons, or, you know.
Days was just a statement of a unit of time.
timothy albarino
You mean in regard to the creation days of Genesis?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
This is one example where people say that it doesn't mean seven days, it means...
timothy albarino
Yeah, there's dispute about that.
I mean, you have young earth creationists who believe that the earth is literally 6,000 years old, and then you have old earth creationists who believe that the earth is probably billions of years old, and they have a different interpretation based on the text.
Based on a different interpretation of the words.
tim pool
Imagine if you described modern technology to any, like, North Sentinelese person, right?
Showing them this.
Or, you know, let's just put it this way.
All technology is completely wiped out.
Just gone.
And we wake up one day and we're in the middle of the woods and we're bug naked.
And you've got a newborn kid and the kid's growing up.
Kids 10 years old, you're trying to explain to this kid how life used to be.
And you'd say, we had these things we called screens and computers.
You could literally just press buttons.
There's a little button.
We don't have buttons anymore.
How do you describe what a button is?
It's a little thing that you push down, it goes in and comes out.
Sending information, telling a machine.
And on the screen, you could see anywhere in the world.
What story will you get out of that?
timothy albarino
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
It's going to be a witch with a cauldron looking into a reflection of water and seeing the land of Oz.
timothy albarino
That's right.
I agree.
And we can take an example from the Bible.
I mean, in the Bible you have these flying objects called the chariots of God or the chariots of Israel.
And they show up on several occasions.
And clearly, these are, in my estimation, these are advanced aerospace vehicles.
I mean, somebody is piloting them.
And, you know, the ancients thought of them as a chariot with fiery horses or a fiery chariot.
Chariots of fire.
Rockets.
Well, I mean, how else?
A chariot was the most advanced mode of conveyance in the ancient world.
So they have no concept of combustion, right?
tim pool
They have no word for plane.
timothy albarino
They have no word for airplane or rocket or anything like that.
The only thing that flies in the sky are birds.
So how do you describe this advanced aerospace vehicle that you're seeing?
Well, what's the most advanced vehicle of conveyance that you have to reference?
And that would be a chariot.
But these chariots fly.
So if a chariot flies, why does it...
Last time I checked, horses don't fly.
Obviously, I think that Iron Age people are seeing things and they're conveying them in the way that seems most accurate to them.
And I think in some instances, we've made the mistake of interpreting some of that literally.
I don't believe in flying horses.
I think what they were seeing was advanced aerospace vehicles.
mary morgan
I'm confused because my assumption from texts like that is not that they're describing it in a way that's culturally...
relevant and understandable to them.
So they would see chariots because it was intended for them to see that.
timothy albarino
I see what you mean.
mary morgan
Like the way that angels appeared to people is not, this is in the Catholic view, it's not the way they actually look because they don't have a physical form.
They appear to you in a way that communicates.
Communicates their nature in a way that humans can understand.
timothy albarino
This describes the angels' metamorphic powers.
They might as well be genies.
And I don't believe that.
I think they're not all that different from us.
And in fact, I write about this in my book Birthright, but I think that we are the younger sibling in the family of God and that angels are our angelic elder siblings.
And we're not all that different.
In fact, we're so alike that we can procreate.
We can breed.
mary morgan
Yeah, I just think all that's bullshit.
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Shane H. Wilder says the Coinbase hack, Trump needs to look into the KYC regulations.
All of the data stolen was info required by KYC and is enough for identity theft.
Interesting.
unidentified
Thank you.
tim pool
All right, Matt Ride says, right, the former FBI director doesn't know what 86 means.
There was a good comment.
Someone said that it's a reference to eight miles out and six feet under, and it was a mob term from Old Vegas.
Make sense?
Make sense?
Concrete Haiti says, Second Amendment is absolute, and the founders stated as much, no exclusions or excuses, it's the only right so written.
I...
I'm...
I think that if we want to stop people from having nuclear weapons or biological weapons, then you've got to amend the Constitution.
Because you can't make the argument that they didn't understand.
Nope, they said arms, so...
phil labonte
It is true that, like, nuclear weapons are prohibitively expensive.
Not...
That they're totally unreachable, but nation states have a difficult time coming up with the resources.
tim pool
Yes, for mass destruction.
I don't want to explain too much, but there was a gentleman who made an extremely powerful radioactive weapon, which I don't want to get into because it wasn't difficult for him to do.
phil labonte
Yep.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
Let's grab some more.
Dick Dickerson says, Republic, Missouri checking in.
Love our congressman.
Right on.
eric burlison
Thank you.
tim pool
Schlip says, Rep Burleson, can we count on your support for getting the full Hearing Protection Act and short act passed?
eric burlison
I'm working very hard.
phil labonte
Just slide it in there.
It's one piece of paper.
Just one piece of paper.
eric burlison
Yeah, I've been since we had our conference in May.
I went to the microphone and told the speaker and all the leaders, we got to do this.
And I got an applause.
phil labonte
I mean, look.
This is something that the Republicans should get behind.
Anyone that says that they're pro-Second Amendment, they should be getting behind the Short Act and the Hearing Protection Act.
These are very basic rights that the Second Amendment is clear about.
tim pool
Let's go.
Derpasaurus Rex says, Phil, have Adam D. wear his cape for the San Diego concert.
phil labonte
I don't know.
You can never, ever tell what Adam's going to wear at any one particular show.
It might be a cape, it might be a tutu, it might be short shorts, but it will likely be ridiculous.
tim pool
Mechanical Mercenary says, call your congressman and demand a vote on Short Act and Shush Act, bills that would remove silencers, short-barreled rifles from the NFA.
Keep calling and leave messages.
phil labonte
Absolutely.
tim pool
It is the stupidest thing imaginable that short-barreled rifles and suppressors...
Are regulated as such because these are exactly what you want for home defense.
Look, we're out in the middle of nowhere.
I don't want to pull out like a Remington, you know, long shotgun or anything.
I'd like to use a short-barreled rifle with a suppressor for safety reasons, literally.
And you can't do it.
Absurdity.
eric burlison
It's crazy.
tim pool
Yep.
I think it's because movies, liberals genuinely think that...
Suppressors go pew, pew, pew!
phil labonte
The SBR inclusion on the NFA was because they initially were going after pistols.
And then people were like, no, no, no, we don't want pistols to be regulated like that.
And so they actually, the short barrel rifles thing was a compromise, which is ridiculous because...
The argument was you don't want to be able to conceal a rifle or conceal a gun, but they couldn't get handguns onto it.
So initially it was about getting handguns.
Then they walked it back and the compromise was rifles with a barrel length under 16 inches, which is ridiculous.
eric burlison
It makes the laws hard to understand for average citizens, and that's what it's intended for.
They like it because most people don't want to run afoul.
tim pool
Isn't it like if you put a foregrip on a pistol, it can turn into an SBR?
phil labonte
If you have an AR pistol, and you can have an angled foregrip or a hand stop, but if you put an actual foregrip, then you are actually taking it from being a pistol and making it any other weapon, which needs to be registered under the NFA.
It's ridiculous, and it only makes...
Criminals out of legal, you know, of normal Americans that want to exercise their rights legally.
tim pool
Jack Rivers Poker, that's who brought it up.
He said, 86 is from the Las Vegas mob, eight miles out and six feet under, which is why it's commonly used in the service industry.
It's from old Vegas.
phil labonte
I didn't know that.
tim pool
Well, there you go.
I don't know if that's true or not, but a guy on the internet said it, so I'm going to believe it.
What do we have here?
Neglectful Sausage says, need a new TV show better than Ellie being a dad?
Yeah, I've skipped Last of Us 2, Season 2. Because I knew it was bad already.
Last of Us 1 was bad enough.
You know?
Did you guys watch it?
mary morgan
It didn't get enough credit for how bad it was, actually.
tim pool
I agree.
I think the forced gay sex scenes they included in that movie, which aren't in the video game, really, really put it over the edge of bad.
But, you know.
mary morgan
Well, they weren't, like, full-on doing it, but I don't want to watch dudes kissing either.
Like, that just grosses me out.
And most people who are more polite than me, and they won't say it out loud.
It's just gross.
And that's episode three, so...
tim pool
It was super controversial when it came out.
mary morgan
You had to put up with that to just watch the rest of the season.
tim pool
And that's not in the game.
mary morgan
It's not in the game, and it's actually the opposite of what happened in the game.
In the game, you just encounter one of them who survived, who only says that he hates that guy, the dead one.
So there's no implication that they were gay lovers.
There was just basically a glorified fan theory from what I've been able to tell.
tim pool
Well, Ali's a dad now.
mary morgan
Yeah.
tim pool
How is she a dad?
Like, what's the plot point?
Her girlfriend gets pregnant somehow?
mary morgan
In the game, when she finds out that her GF is pregnant...
tim pool
From some guy?
mary morgan
From some guy.
She gets angry because she's like, you're having a baby.
This is a liability.
We're in life or death situations constantly.
tim pool
But in the show, she's like, I'm a dad.
mary morgan
Yeah, and in the show, they just were like, ah, fuck it.
Let's just rewrite the entire story and make, you know...
Ellie, happy that this is happening and they're gonna be lesbian moms.
tim pool
I do think it was...
mary morgan
The lesbian mom and a lesbian dad?
I don't know.
tim pool
I do think it was cringe enough that that's the route they went with the video game.
It's the end of the world and LGBTQ rights are being upheld.
unidentified
As if anyone would be gay after the apocalypse, right?
tim pool
The Handmaid's Tale might be extreme, but yeah.
I mean, like, if a cataclysm happens and humanity is on the brink of extinction, yeah, it's going to be pretty authoritarian and militaristic.
phil labonte
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
That's it.
phil labonte
And most people would want that, too.
And under those conditions, most people will look to a strong man and they'll align with whoever's...
tim pool
But are there going to be a bunch of, like, lib women being like, I'm not having kids?
phil labonte
They'll die fast.
tim pool
No, I think what people need to understand is what...
The word rape, where does it come from?
It meant to steal.
And when the Vikings would steal and destroy, we called that raping and pillaging.
But along with that, they would take the women.
And I heard a joke when I was in Norway.
You guys want to hear it?
phil labonte
Sure.
tim pool
A Norwegian man told me this joke.
I was in Bergen.
And I also ate whale, by the way.
I did not enjoy it.
I ate a piece.
And he said to me, you want to hear a joke?
How come there's no attractive women in Britain?
Because we took them all.
unidentified
That might actually be true.
tim pool
That's his joke.
And I was like, wow.
timothy albarino
That's more like a statement.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
So I think if a cataclysm happened, it's going to be a bunch of just like barbarian dudes who are ripped just taking women.
eric burlison
Tribal leaders.
tim pool
You know, prisons will become fortresses.
I'm like, prisons?
eric burlison
Like Walking Dead.
phil labonte
30% of all humans.
On the continent of Asia are related to Genghis Khan for a reason.
tim pool
Yep.
phil labonte
You know?
tim pool
So, like, in The Last of Us 2, people are, I guess, complaining about there's a scene where she chucks a guy out or something.
Did you watch it?
mary morgan
I only know what happened in the game.
I haven't watched the second season of the show because the first season sucked.
tim pool
I'm going to trigger every feminist.
In that game, the idea of a small, how old is she, like a teenager?
Late teens?
mary morgan
In the second game, she's a young adult.
tim pool
Yeah, the idea that some young adult female is going to take on, like, 15 adult men with rifles and clubs.
mary morgan
He goes full Rambo.
tim pool
And win every time.
It's just like, yeah.
mary morgan
Even the Abby character in the game was framed because it's like, okay, she's buff, but she's a chick.
That means she has, like, what, half the strength of the average guy who's not even a bodybuilder?
tim pool
Yeah.
Like, the first game was good.
mary morgan
Badass villain.
tim pool
Do you guys know what the game's about?
timothy albarino
I saw the first season.
tim pool
But the game is not as woke and weird as the show.
mary morgan
I mean, it's pretty...
The second game is woke and weird.
unidentified
Right, it is.
tim pool
But the first one wasn't.
And then they were like, hey, let's ruin the game.
mary morgan
Ruin the story.
I mean, the first game was kind of woke and weird, though.
Because I don't like the whole thing where they're having these little girls kissing.
Like, that's really...
tim pool
That was an add-on.
mary morgan
Really?
That wasn't in the original release?
tim pool
I'm pretty sure they released...
The game.
And then they did a DLC where Ellie is a little girl in a gay relationship with another little girl.
mary morgan
That's so weird.
tim pool
Yeah, they were like, let's just totally ruin it.
Because the original story was like, a guy's daughter dies, there's a zombie apocalypse, there are fungus zombies, cordyceps, and then he finds this young girl and he protects her.
And so, for a lot of guys, it was like, I'm going to be a man and save this child.
And then the second game comes around and they're like, kill the main character and have a gay relationship.
mary morgan
Yeah.
eric burlison
I like the game Assassin's Creed.
That's my...
tim pool
Which one?
timothy albarino
Yeah.
eric burlison
I've played a lot of them.
mary morgan
What about the new one with the black samurai?
tim pool
Have you played Assassin's Creed?
timothy albarino
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, you must love it, you know?
Like, the Tree of Life is an actual machine and, like, the Apple of Eden, you know?
timothy albarino
Yeah, they were actually making reference to the Nephilim and the El Hela.
eric burlison
And the movie was garbage.
unidentified
Yeah.
eric burlison
The movie was awful.
tim pool
The premise of the game backstory is basically ancient aliens.
unidentified
Like...
tim pool
All of the scripture and everything is like you find the Apple of Eden was actually a device.
It was a computer or something.
timothy albarino
Yeah.
tim pool
The Apple of Knowledge or whatever.
eric burlison
It's just a fun game to play.
It's a good game.
tim pool
CyberX says, my first indie game just released on Steam, Let's Nuke Mars.
phil labonte
Nice.
tim pool
It was part of Based Game Games Jam I learned about in Timcast Discord.
Get it now on Steam.
Support Based Game Devs.
phil labonte
Epic!
Nice.
tim pool
I'm working on my game.
Working on it.
I've taken the racism out of it, though.
Fair enough.
unidentified
Add it back in!
tim pool
I don't know, I made the game less fun.
You know, but I'm adding bosses.
I'm gonna put big boss battles.
You know, you gotta fight the cartels and stuff.
phil labonte
Next thing you gotta make is a side-scroller.
tim pool
Yeah.
You know, I used to actually program video games back in the day.
I've probably made like 15 different side-scroller games.
phil labonte
Oh, really?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
Long ones, too.
Like, I made one game that had probably 40 minutes to an hour of gameplay.
phil labonte
That's nice.
tim pool
For a side-scroller I made when I was 14 is kind of crazy.
Yeah, and it was like...
I don't know how to describe it.
Side-scroller.
You played a guy who was, for some reason, running through a bunch of factories where little monsters were...
Like, the factory was going crazy.
And there were, like, pistons that would smash you.
It was fun.
phil labonte
That's cool.
tim pool
Back in the day.
Old Multimedia Fusion.
phil labonte
I didn't know you were a nerd.
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
I used to do Flash programming, too.
But that was a bit harder, so I just switched to the easy stuff.
Multimedia Fusion.
Very easy.
All right.
We got here.
Blazalot says, I'm a few days late, but when Tim said he had a surprise he was working on since last night, I thought it was going to get the gook song in full.
I'm allowed to say that because I'm Korean, though, so...
You don't say that.
That's my word.
Alright, what do we got?
Let's see.
MFDamian says, For all that's holy, the magnetic poles flip every so often, weakening the magnetosphere, but the axis of the Earth doesn't flip with them.
The rate of travel from the poles has been accelerating.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
We'll see what happens.
Bill Dozer says, Well, I enjoyed the time I spent this evening at my middle school child's Girl Scout bridging to Brownie Scout.
I am sad I've missed one hour and 20 minutes of this conversation.
Great guests.
You can always watch it later.
phil labonte
Yeah, I have good news for you.
It's on the Internet.
tim pool
It's on the Internet.
What have we here?
Roman64 says, since we have Congressman Eric on, can we take a moment to talk about Republicans screwing us over in the Ways and Means Committee, not allowing the Hearing Protection Act through?
Call David Kustoff now.
Wow, man, they're really...
phil labonte
It's a big deal.
tim pool
It's a big deal.
phil labonte
It's a big deal around here.
eric burlison
Yeah.
Well, I'll tell you, I think Jason Smith, the chairman, would do it.
If he could get every member of the committee on board, and what I've been told is that not every member...
phil labonte
And this is the House Judiciary Committee or House Ways and Means?
House Ways and Means.
Because I will be tweeting about that.
tim pool
Right on.
Well, my friends, it's about time for that uncensored portion of the show, so smash the like button, share the show with everyone you know.
Thanks for hanging out.
You can follow me on X and Instagram at TimCast.
You can find The Uncensored Show at rumble.com slash TimCast IRL.
Tim, do you want to shout anything out?
timothy albarino
I have a book called Birthright.
You can get it on Amazon.
And a book of Enoch.
I wrote Commentary and Introduction to the Book of Enoch.
You can find that on Amazon as well.
tim pool
Did you ever do a documentary about it?
timothy albarino
I've done documentaries on the subject, yes.
tim pool
Oh, okay.
I want to watch it.
That's why I was like, where can I find it?
timothy albarino
Those documentaries are kind of hard to find now.
unidentified
Oh.
timothy albarino
Yeah, but I've got tons of content on YouTube about all this kind of stuff.
tim pool
Right on.
timothy albarino
Cool.
tim pool
I'll check it out.
Rep Burleson, you want to shout anything out?
eric burlison
No, thank you.
It's great to be on.
I just really appreciate it.
Yeah, yeah, thanks for coming.
And this has been fun.
mary morgan
Shout out to Congress.
eric burlison
Don't, don't.
tim pool
Where can people find you?
eric burlison
Rep Eric Burleson on all the socials.
tim pool
That would be the funniest thing ever.
I just want to give a shout-out to Congress.
Everyone's very happy with the work they're doing.
unidentified
Love y 'all.
mary morgan
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phil labonte
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Call your representative.
Tell them to make sure that the Hearing Protection Act and the Short Act are both in the omnibus bill.
Because just slide them right in there.
That's all you've got to do.
Just slide them right in.
tim pool
All right, everybody.
We'll see you all over at rumble.com slash timcast IRL in about 30 seconds.
Thanks for hanging out.
unidentified
Thanks for hanging out.
Thanks for hanging out.
Thanks for hanging out.
tim pool
Oh, here we are, uncensored.
So what do you think?
Mary's not a fan of the theories of...
eric burlison
But what do you think?
I have to admit, when I first heard him and people asked me to go listen to a different podcast that he'd been on, I thought it was extremely different in his views, but I was not all on board.
And look, I remain a skeptic in general in life.
When people ask me about the UFO phenomenon, I still say, look, I'm from Missouri, you're going to have to show me.
I will listen to you and I will investigate and I will do everything I can to get to the truth, but I'm not going to jump to conclusions.
I do think that the more that I've read Tim's book, I think that he's got very sound theory here.
mary morgan
So what is your religious affiliation?
eric burlison
I'm a Protestant Christian.
I'm non-denominational.
mary morgan
See, it's so easy being Catholic because you can just agree with whatever the church says and not really think about it.
tim pool
Yeah, but what if your pope is gay?
mary morgan
I don't think the pope is gay.
tim pool
No, not him, but what happens if you get a woke gay pope?
eric burlison
Or a transgender pope like in the conclave.
tim pool
Oh, man.
mary morgan
Okay, that movie pissed me off.
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