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tim pool
It is Donald Trump's first 100 days as of today, and boys, he's celebrating.
He's got a big old rally, and he is talking about everything he's facing, and he is facing record amount of lawsuits, 220.
He's facing a record amount of unconstitutional universal injunctions, and I guess what we call a judicial coup.
And Matt Taibbi is writing, he writes an article asking, is this a soft civil war?
And perhaps we've crossed the point of no return.
I know.
Everybody's talking about it, but I guess it just remains to be seen if there's going to be an off-ramp or not.
In other news, the judge from Wisconsin has been removed from the court, which is pretty crazy.
And we do have a bunch of other issues.
I got a funny one for you.
Chuck Todd is arguing that they did nothing wrong in the Biden story.
They didn't cover it up.
They didn't miss this.
That's a right-wing narrative.
Oh boy.
So we're going to talk about that, plus a lot of what's going on with this Kilmar Abrego guy.
Turns out there's a 2018 report where the husband, the ex-husband of the guy he's married to now, of the lady he's married to now, claimed he was in a gang.
It was a threat to his children.
It's going to get interesting.
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Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Tim Young.
unidentified
Hey, what's going on, man?
tim pool
Who are you?
unidentified
Oh, what do I do?
I don't know.
I'm the Heritage Foundation's Media Fellow for Strategic Communication.
I'm CEO of a company called Veebs, which is pretty cool.
And I'm Tim runs his mouth on social media.
And more importantly, I'm not you.
And that's what I wanted to come here and talk about, is that you have very intelligent listeners and viewers, and then you have some that kind of fall a little short.
And when they're upset at you, they tweet at me.
tim pool
I have to imagine those are the hate watchers, and they're probably the liberals who catch the show after the fact, or they're probably just watching a clip from the show posted by some liberal to get out of context.
unidentified
But we don't look anywhere near each other.
We're both hat-wearing fellas.
That's about it.
tim pool
You have glasses, I don't.
unidentified
There you go.
I'm a little chonkier right now.
I'm going to work on that.
But, you know, I just, you know, so the haters out there, if you could just note the difference.
Although I do really like...
tim pool
All times are the same.
unidentified
I think I've just been kind of riding the wave when they hate you, man.
It just gets me some...
tim pool
I appreciate you taking all of that trolling so I don't have to.
unidentified
You know, I'm just helping you out from afar.
tim pool
I appreciate it.
Should be fun.
Thanks for hanging out.
We got Brett hanging out.
brett dasovic
I couldn't even tell the difference between the two of you.
What's going on, guys?
tim pool
It's uncanny.
brett dasovic
It's uncanny.
They look exactly like Brett here.
Usually pop culture crisis, Monday through Friday at 3 p.m. Eastern Standard Time.
Let's talk about stuff.
phil labonte
Hello, my name is Phil Abonte.
I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band, All That Remains.
I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary.
Let's get into it.
tim pool
It is a meaningless...
Holiday, I guess.
It's Trump's first hundred days.
And most of you may not know this, but it's meaningless.
It just was made up by the press a hundred years ago because FDR was doing a bunch of crazy stuff.
And they were like, look what he did in his hundred days.
And then from then on, people were like, a hundred days.
It signifies nothing.
You can't guarantee things get done.
But sure, here we are.
Now, Donald Trump may not be FDR.
He's got a bunch of other things under his belt.
ABC News reports 220 lawsuits in 100 days.
Trump administration faces unprecedented legal blitz.
The administration has been sued over nearly every element of Trump's agenda.
And then, of course, this report, which we've covered from Congress.gov several times, talking about how Donald Trump has more universal injunctions filed against his administration than all other administrations.
And he has around 40% of all universal injunctions ever issued.
And, well, I gotta say, they're unconstitutional.
But, you know, right now, the big question is, how are we doing?
How does Donald Trump hold up in your view?
Do you hold him in great esteem in these 100 days?
phil labonte
Look, he's, just for the results at the border alone, I give him a B+.
Right?
unidentified
Because...
phil labonte
We went from having a massive influx every day, tens of thousands or tens of thousands of people coming into the country every single day to, you know, almost none or very, very, very few.
And that was simply by enforcing the law and implementing what really amount to small changes.
You know, there have been no significant changes.
Maybe they're a decent side change because there are...
There are military assets at the border.
So he activated the National Guard, I guess, or actually I think it was the Marine Corps.
But they're actually doing something.
That alone, that was fulfilling one of the...
Major reasons that people voted for Donald Trump.
So right off the bat, I think he's at least doing okay.
brett dasovic
I think it's interesting that the discussion this time around in the second term has changed the focus from, I feel like in the first term, now maybe it's just been such a long time since I focused on that, was that it was about the building of the border wall and it was about trying to get the financing and the funding for the border wall.
But what focusing on deportations has done is it's thrown into contrast.
Just how similar previous administrations were on this topic to show you just how far left things have gone within certain sections of the Democratic Party.
Because if you look at the numbers when Barack Obama was in office between deportations and turnaways at the border, you see something fairly similar.
despite the fact that they were letting a lot of people in, they were getting those numbers up by turning people away at the border and reclassifying those deportations.
So for those who are willing to look into it and those who actually want to grow and see where politics has changed, you can look at what things were like between 2008 and 2016 and you can see a vast shift.
And I think maybe that's not the focus of the first 100 days, but for the people that are paying close attention, it kind of helps form a narrative for things.
unidentified
I'm going to go with the grading because you went with the grading.
I'm going to go B-plus as well, not just because of the border, though.
Balls to the wall with executive orders.
He's doing everything he can possibly do.
You have to remember when you're putting in cabinet members...
Nothing can really get accomplished until you have the staffing for those cabinet members.
So you have a bunch of people in there with a bunch of great ideas that hopefully will have the backup soon to be able to enact them.
But as far as what he can do personally from the White House and from the Oval Office, I think he's done more than what any other president has ever done, especially as a conservative and a Republican.
He came in.
I think he learned from his first four years.
He came in like a bull in a china shop and signed everything, literally.
I don't even know when the man has a break from signing executive orders at this point, basically.
tim pool
I don't know when the man sleeps.
Apparently he sleeps six hours a night.
brett dasovic
Sounds about right.
tim pool
That's crazy.
So the big question here, though, is this, is approval.
So RCP approval ratings in aggregate has Trump at minus seven.
But I do want to stress, completely meaningless.
Society is collapsing.
The end is nigh.
And these polls are, I'm exaggerating, guys.
The polls mean absolutely nothing is what I'm trying to say.
You've got NPR, ABC, CNN, and I believe Daily Mail.
New York Times and CBS, they're all saying in the past week Trump has double digits underwater.
That's crazy.
Now Rasmussen has a minus four, and they tend to be more accurate.
And we had the guy from Rasmussen on recently, and they have been very, very accurate.
But my issue with the aggregate polling right now is that you can have two polls, one saying Trump is up one, and the next day he's minus nine.
Or I should say the next period.
Then he's minus two.
They're all completely different and random.
Let's just go back eight years when I used to cover a lot more of this stuff in the first Trump term.
And I'd always go for these polls and I'd be tracking them every day.
They were fairly similar.
They'd all have Trump at like minus six or seven.
And they wouldn't change that much because what's really going on?
How is it that you've got these corporate polls showing Trump double digits underwater?
And the swing from the polls is insane.
This week it's plus that, then it's minus that.
That's why I say it's largely meaningless.
But what I will say is Trump is down.
Rasmussen had Trump up at the beginning of the month at, I believe he was plus four, and now he's minus four.
So it was a big swing.
This is not good.
For Donald Trump, but I don't think it's apocalyptic.
Now, the reason why I don't want to use aggregates, as I often say, people are going to be like, Tim, you always say use aggregates.
It's because they're all randomized at this point.
All the polls, all these pollsters have changed their systems up, and now they're giving wildly different numbers across the board.
Now, you can make the argument that, you know, NPR, ABC, CNN, Daily Mail, they all show Trump, you know, minus 10, 12, 10, 14, 13, 10. That's pretty comparable, right?
But this whole 100 days, it's like during the same period, one of these polls would have Trump at plus nine and one would have him like minus three.
I'm like, how is that possible that we're getting such wildly different numbers?
What I do think matters is that if you track any single poll that you trust, and so Rasmussen we trust, and they are showing Trump down.
So comparing Rasmussen to itself, you don't necessarily know if it reflects the greater population.
At this 100 days.
But you do know that reflects the movement of how people are feeling because Rasmussen polls generally the same way every time.
So if we want to argue that they're the most accurate or they tend to be very accurate, and they do, I believe the past several elections, they were all within the margin of error.
Pretty spot on.
Then this shows that Trump has gone down a bit.
The question for you guys, I think, is do you believe the American population really holds Trump at a double digit?
unidentified
I mean, isn't he still down in Iowa 14 points?
Remember that, Paul, that came out just before the election?
I mean, what's more important here, too, is do you think the White House cares?
And, you know, when you have this constant spin with the tariffs and everything that he's doing, he's taking very, very bold moves.
Again, the strongest moves I've seen from a president just in general in my lifetime coming in, other than maybe Biden, who tried to reverse everything from Trump as soon as he came in.
tim pool
I'm loving this.
Joe Biden, who tried to decree a constitutional amendment, and they're saying Trump is a dictator.
brett dasovic
Is this what's going to happen?
So every time we get a new administration and it switches to the other party, they're just going to undo everything that everybody did through executive order?
unidentified
No.
brett dasovic
No?
tim pool
No, because society is collapsing and the end is nigh.
brett dasovic
So by the time the next administration comes in, there won't be a government?
tim pool
No, I'm kidding.
I do think you're largely correct.
But I will stress...
Obviously, we have this Matt Taibbi article where he's asking about civil war, and it's because people largely missed this story, which is interesting.
He's just writing about it now, that a whole bunch of uniparty Democrats wrote a letter vowing to mobilize and stop Trump recently.
And I'm just seeing this.
I'm like, okay, I didn't realize that.
And mobilize is a very specific term.
unidentified
What does it mean by mobilize?
tim pool
We know what it means.
When the Democrats say go out in the streets, they're not saying to sing songs, hold hands under a rainbow like Kumbaya.
They're saying form a gigantic mass so that far-left extremists can firebomb buildings.
brett dasovic
Were you talking about Democrat politicians or just people who support the Democratic Party?
tim pool
Establishment shills like people who worked in the deep state and Clinton and things like this.
We'll get into that story.
What I was going to say is one story that's been bubbling up recently is that this is the year the demographic cliff is supposed to start.
And, you know, I didn't know about this because when the financial crisis happened, I guess, how old was I, 22 years old?
21, 22?
And for me, I was broke as a joke as it was.
So when the market crashed and bottomed out, here's the floor, right?
I'm right here.
Everybody else is here.
They go down.
I didn't really notice much.
I was like, still poor.
But when this happened, what most people at the time were talking about is that people stopped having kids.
And so now it has been 18 years.
We are supposed to see a new generation of workers entering the workforce, going to colleges, and they don't exist.
So this is going to cause a massive train wreck in our economy in ways that people, we don't exactly know how that's going to happen.
So when I say society is crumbling, I'm just thinking about, you know, these movies that are bombing, these video games that won't sell.
And for a while I'm thinking, I really do think the issue is there's no kids anymore.
There is a shortage of young people.
unidentified
Well, toys right now are, the number one consumer of toys are people our age.
phil labonte
Yeah, it's really...
tim pool
Yo, I got action.
My buddy bought me a Timpole, shout out Andy, he bought me a Timpole Pokemon card and Pokemon toy.
Because I'm a Pokemon.
Most people don't know this.
I literally am a Pokemon.
They made a Pokemon after me.
How many of you get to say that?
You think I'm joking?
Take a look.
Tim Pool.
Did you guys know that?
phil labonte
There you go.
tim pool
Tell me that the little blue and black frog with headphones on named Tim Pool is not me when that is the colors we use for the company and he's wearing headphones.
I digress.
You are right.
Adults are buying toys.
They made the adult Happy Meal.
There's no kids.
So, what I will say is, to your question, Brett, when you ask, Every administration is going to change and do this.
I was thinking about what happens to a civilization when they undergo a population collapse.
Now, I don't know for sure.
It's probably stupid for me to speculate in this way.
But there were the English peasant revolts after the Black Plague.
And this was because with massive labor shortages following the Black Plague, the governments were trying to suppress like the workers basically had a lot of leverage.
So they were like.
You need us for day-to-day operations in ways like you can't do.
So we can have whatever we want.
So the government tries suppressing them to stop them.
So they tried using force against the leverage they had, which resulted in revolts.
So I'm wondering, you know, I don't think we're looking at as big a population drop-off as like the Black Plague.
There's like 30 to 60 percent of the population of Europe.
But I am wondering what's going to happen when we were just sitting the other day in Charlestown, West Virginia.
Businesses are closing because they can't find workers.
I mention this all the time.
There's restaurants that we've been to where they say that they closed after COVID and they can't reopen because they can't find anybody to do the work.
So, simple version.
The next administration that comes in, if there will be one, it is going to be radicals.
With what this crisis brings, I think we're going to end up with hyper-polarized ideological solutions and factions vying for power that if they get the power, will try to enact very radical things.
So, with that being said, the Trump administration is doing something absolutely radical.
And a lot of people might want to say, no, no, this is totally normal as America, but hold on.
The past 30 years has been uniparty neoliberal rule with the Republicans saying, slow down there, Democrats.
They've opened our borders, advised the children of this nation to not have their own kids, to stop having kids because of climate change or to get abortions.
Then they opened the borders to allow tens of millions of people in, and Trump is seeking to reverse it in a way that is very, very different.
They now are calling to mobilize against them.
So there you go.
Rant over.
brett dasovic
So does that pave the way for like a Bernie AOC ticket for 2028?
tim pool
AOC maybe.
brett dasovic
But Bernie just drag his ass.
phil labonte
Well, Bernie's too old.
tim pool
It's not just that.
With all due respect, I'm not trying to be a dick to Bernie, but he's passed the average life expectancy for a male.
Considering he's never actually done a job in his life that may either.
You know, I'm actually curious.
I would assume that if you've never worked, you probably would live longer.
brett dasovic
Less stress.
tim pool
Like an animal in captivity.
However, you also might be weaker.
unidentified
Look at Joe Biden.
How long was he in government office?
tim pool
50 some odd years, right?
phil labonte
All of his adult life.
tim pool
You know Bernie's never had a real job, right?
He's only ever worked in government.
phil labonte
I do wonder if, like, I mean, I don't think Bernie's going to run at all, but I think that not only is it his age, but I think that he couldn't win because he's too much, he's too spineless.
Like, he really, he bent over and took it from the Democrats, and I don't know if that's because he didn't really want to be the president bad enough to actually do it, or if that he was just afraid, but, you know, he...
Kissed the ring for Hillary Clinton.
And I can't get over, like, when he was on stage and those two women came up and essentially took over.
He was like, well, I don't know what to do.
I don't know how to assert myself and keep the stage without obviously breaking every left-leaning faux pas there is.
tim pool
I think what might happen is AOC may win a primary narrowly.
Then she gets a really low turnout in 2020.
People are saying she might run 2028.
I think that'd be silly.
I don't think she should, but maybe she will because the Democrats have got nobody else.
But we don't know the Republicans have either.
But if it's if it is Vance or it is some popular, you know, Trump has got these Trump 2028 hats and people are joking, you know, that Trump's going to run again.
He said he won't do it.
Could be Don Jr.
Who knows?
It could be another Trump.
unidentified
AOC's gotten better.
She's finally gotten better at public speaking.
She had many, many a bad interview.
Obviously, we make fun of her all the time.
But when you see her in front of these crowds, she's pulled it together.
The voice is still kind of eh, but she's actually taken proper advice from people.
tim pool
I hear you, but guys, the way you sound matters.
Deep voices matter.
And I know people are going to say it's sexist and the feminists are going to get angry.
Don't know.
Don't care.
I'm going to tell you the secret right now.
brett dasovic
I think hype matters.
tim pool
I've told it on the show before.
I did non-profit fundraising for several years, and I imagine it's the exact same thing with sales.
There is one characteristic above all else among men and one characteristic above all else among women that typically, that I would say, confers.
They will sell very, very well.
And among men, what do you think that trait is?
phil labonte
Deep voice.
tim pool
No.
phil labonte
No?
unidentified
Height?
tim pool
Height.
phil labonte
Oh, okay.
tim pool
You gotta be very tall.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Among women, what is the one trait that tends to confer this woman will sell well?
Sounds easy, guys.
phil labonte
I mean, I want to say...
tim pool
It's easy, boys.
phil labonte
Big boobs?
tim pool
Big boobs!
phil labonte
I wanted to say that, and I'm like, I don't know, should I say it?
tim pool
That's because feminists are going to get angry about it, but guys, let's be real.
If there's a woman with big breasts standing on a street corner and she waves to you, every single guy will stop.
100% of men.
And then when she blinks and she smiles and says, I want you to buy this product from me or sign up for this program or donate to charity, the guys go, okay.
Now, if you have a tall guy...
Same thing happens the other way around.
Men and women stop for tall guys.
So, for AOC, being an average height woman trying to be a leader, this is a challenge that women will always have.
And I know the left is going to clip this and they're going to call it sexist.
I am literally saying there is an inherent sexism in all of human beings and they will look at a woman and think she is too small and weak to be war chief.
And that's what a president is.
They're the commander-in-chief of the armed forces.
And this will...
The only way...
No.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
tim pool
Is if the Republican and the Democrats both run a female in the primary and they both win.
So I believe it was...
Was it Gerald Ford?
Someone said the first female president will be a VP and the president will either step down or be removed and that VP will become president.
And then if she runs again...
And let's say the Republicans are the Democrats' primary, a woman.
That's how you get a female president.
But how that woman wins in a primary, I don't know, which is probably why when the Democrats ran Hillary Clinton, the field was nothing.
You guys remember this in 2016?
Nobody ran.
They were like, what, two guys?
phil labonte
Yeah.
Well, I mean, and one of them was Bernie Sanders, and he, you know...
Oh, I know.
I mean, I know you say that about...
And I don't disagree with any of your points about height and whether or not, you know, men or America would vote for a woman.
I don't know.
That being said, if there is a woman that could win, I think AOC would be it.
I think because even though her voice is a little grating when she's actually talking to people.
And when she's on camera, when you can see her, she's very charismatic and she knows how to use social media.
Again, I'm not disputing any of your points about what people want, but I think that she is talented and I think that she's compelling.
tim pool
I agree with that, but I will also agree with the feminists when they say it is hard for a woman to sound commanding and not bitchy.
phil labonte
Yeah.
She totally is.
tim pool
I agree with the feminists on that one.
phil labonte
But it's possible.
And maybe AOC can't.
But you can look at people like Margaret.
Margaret Thatcher was a great example.
Because she didn't sound shrill.
tim pool
How old was she?
phil labonte
She was probably 50 when she did?
tim pool
This is the other issue I will add.
What do people look up to in terms of authority?
And it's going to be older people.
So you can have a guy.
I feel like...
And I could be wrong about all this, whatever.
When I worked in non-profit stuff, this is exactly what we saw in every single office.
Busty women always came back with tons of memberships and tons of money and the tall guys.
I remember this one really short dude.
He was like 5 '4", and he was chubby.
And he sold like crazy.
He signed people up left and right for these non-profits.
phil labonte
She was 53 when she was elected as a prime minister of the UK in 1979.
tim pool
This dude, who did really well, was a fast talker.
Who seemed very slick, but very charismatic.
And so here's a guy who developed the ability and the style and was able to succeed through skills, right?
But I think, long story short, I believe AOC is going to have that hurdle.
She's too young.
She's too young, and there's going to be a lot of older guys who are going to say, yeah, right, it's not going to happen.
But let's jump to this next story from Rackets.
From Matt Taibbi, are we in a soft civil war?
Indeed, are we.
He writes, I'll try to go quick because he does write a lot, but it is interesting.
On Sunday, April 27th, Donald Trump Jr. joined an event in Bulgaria hosted by a controversial crypto firm Nexo.
Nexo in 2023 was fined $45 million by the SEC.
We get it.
The visit by Trump Jr. coincided with the sharpening public relations campaign at home.
Former Treasury Secretary Stephen Ratner argued in the New York Times that we're witnessing a new low in corruption of the Trump meme coin.
He goes on to say, it also came days after.
200 former diplomats and security officials signed a group letter titled, quote, The Assault on American Democracy, a call to action, featuring signatories like Susan Rice, Anthony Lake, and impeachment witness former Ukrainian ambassador Marie Yovanovitch.
The letter contained eyebrow-raising language, quote, Many of us have served in countries where democratically elected leaders followed a path to autocracy, and we know this crisis requires an urgent and unified response.
waiting passively for the electoral calendar to fight back does nothing more than give the administration additional time and running room to impose its authoritarian stance
No American can afford to be a bystander.
Each of us in different walks of life must speak out, mobilize, defend our way of life.
The moment requires nothing less.
We must recognize the seriousness of what is taking place and act collectively to restore our democracy and our security.
He goes on to mention the word mobilize has been appearing a lot in op-eds and political speeches.
He says the recent letter received no press outside of Bulgaria, making it necessary to reach out to signatories like former CIA intelligence officer Ann Gruner to confirm authenticity.
The call for ex-officials to act now instead of waiting passively for the electoral calendar appears to have been organized by former ambassador to Bulgaria, Eric Rubin, who gave an interview about it on Bulgarian TV Saturday.
Rubin has not responded for requests to comment.
He goes on to mention the first hundred days of the Trump admin have been marked by blunt offensives against political opponents, from executive orders targeting law firms like Wilmer Hale, Perkins Coie, Jenner and Block, and the firing of career officials, the National Security Council, the DOJ, to the stripping of security clearances for figures like Kamala Harris and Hillary Clinton.
These moves prompted a cascade of news stories describing an unprecedented assault on the constitutional order, and those increasingly are accompanied by editorials calling for mobilization.
Or revolution.
Now there's more.
He mentioned David Brooks calling for a national civic uprising.
J.B. Pritzker calling for mobilization and mass protests.
Not to mention, I will add to this, the judicial coup with more universal injunctions against Trump than any other administration and 220 lawsuits.
Right now, he is calling it a soft civil war.
Eric Weinstein called it an administrative civil war.
The question then is, are we actually in this conflict?
And does it get worse?
unidentified
It gets worse.
I think it definitely gets worse.
It's not lightening up.
If you would have told me, by the way, that quote from that letter, if you can pull it up real quick for people, if you went out on the street and said, who said this?
Hitler or somebody else?
People would lean towards Hitler on this.
tim pool
That's actually a really good idea.
For someone to go out, do a man on the street, maybe we can have Elad do it.
Here's the quote.
Who said this?
What famous historical figure?
I actually don't know who wrote the letter.
Waiting passively for the electoral calendar to fight back does nothing more than give the administration additional time and running room to impose its authoritarian stamp.
If you said, you know, who said this, the Democrats or Hitler?
I don't know.
unidentified
I actually don't know what people might think.
Speak out and mobilize defend our way of life.
I mean, you could just see it.
tim pool
Yeah, they'd say Hitler.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
Defend our way of life?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
What is that way of life for Democrats?
Like, you know what this is?
I gotta be honest.
This is 200 former diplomats and security officials.
They probably all live in Loudoun County in McLean, Virginia.
And when they're saying defend our way of life, they're talking about the government giving phony grants to NGOs to pay them as lawyers.
brett dasovic
It's their castle.
Their castle is their way of life.
I mean, it sounds a lot like what our foreign policy would have sounded like post 9-11, you know, defending our way of life.
phil labonte
Indeed. I mean, and one of the alluring...
Factors of that phrase is it's like Obama's hope and change.
It's nebulous.
It doesn't actually mean anything so the listener can apply what's their way of life.
What way of life is being threatened?
Well, it's your way of life.
It doesn't matter what someone else is or how someone else conceptualizes it.
Just like what hope and change meant to every person that was listening was totally different.
tim pool
It meant whatever you wanted it to mean.
phil labonte
Yeah, absolutely.
brett dasovic
I don't think things get better, not in the advent, in the age of social media.
I don't think things can get better.
People are going to continue to be fed whatever information confirms their own bias towards a specific situation, and it's just going to continue to get worse.
tim pool
You know, I was thinking about, I was talking with the missus today, and we were talking about general investment.
Like, what do you do?
And, of course, you know, I've got crypto, I've got gold, I've got emergency food.
And I was like, I think we should probably build a shed.
And get some general tools for, like, we need to be able to produce things that we need in the event the supply chain breaks.
Because they're talking about shortages over the tariffs.
Maybe.
Maybe not.
I don't know.
There's already reports that shipments from China for the month of April are basically gone.
Basically, which means we got about a month or so before we start noticing the ripple effect.
Resources from China that are used to make products in America and then products directly made in China will be absent, obviously.
Now, that may be bad in the short term.
It may be good in the long term.
I don't know.
But the idea is like, what do you do when you go to Target and there's no baby formula?
What do you do when you go to Target and or, you know, Walmart and there's no T-shirts or, you know.
Certain materials, you know.
brett dasovic
Well, what happened during COVID was people ran out of toilet paper and then they started fighting each other.
tim pool
Indeed, they did.
So you combine this with what I keep harping on about, this demographic cliff, a shortage of new labor, and it's looking pretty worrisome in the short term.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, I can imagine.
I don't think that we get a significant portion of our food from overseas.
unidentified
We don't.
phil labonte
So I don't imagine that.
We're going to have that kind of fighting over garbage plastic stuff.
That kind of stuff.
It's going to affect the economy.
There are going to be people that are not.
They're going to be bummed out.
But I think that the real inflaming things are like when food isn't hitting the shelves and stuff like that.
I don't know that I'm convinced there is something that actually sets it off.
Not that I'm saying that there aren't a million things that I possibly could be overlooking here.
And I'm certainly of the opinion that I don't know where the off-ramp is.
But we've talked about civil conflict or whatever on this show a couple times in the past, or frequently.
And I'm still of the opinion the normies don't get involved over...
Over, you know, people throwing firebombs at tests.
tim pool
No, but toilet paper.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
They were fighting for...
Those videos were nuts.
unidentified
Yeah, they were.
brett dasovic
I was always, like, my perspective on it as, like, a...
It's like a dummy.
It was like, it doesn't seem like the fighting would really begin.
I'm not talking about political fighting, but, you know, the general population until food shortages came because we have so much technology and general convenience that people have been kind of zapped into a sort of zombie-ism where they're not really taking stock of what's going on in the world.
But once the food shortages come, but now they can't get a new iPhone and the food shortage.
phil labonte
What you're talking about isn't political strife, though.
That's like...
brett dasovic
No, that's what I'm saying.
When I think about what pushes someone towards a specific political message could be that type of food shortage.
tim pool
I'm not worried necessarily about that point where society totally collapses and then people are fighting in the streets for the last can of beans.
I'm worried about some mustachioed guy in a flannel with suspenders on trying to raid my chicken coop in the middle of the night.
Before you get to the point of total collapse, you'll see an escalation in crime from people who are trying to steal because that's how they secure resources.
So I'm worried about if we start seeing businesses going under shortages of supplies, not just food, you're going to see a lot of crime.
phil labonte
B&Es.
tim pool
Yeah, things like that.
So, I don't know.
What I will say is one of the most valuable things in the event of total collapse.
Let's just do this.
Let's say Ben Davidson is completely right.
He's the space weather guy.
We should have that massive power outage in Europe.
Let's say it wasn't a cyber attack.
It wasn't an error.
And the magnetosphere is weakening and we're going to get blasted by solar radiation and the power goes out.
You know, I've been thinking about the most valuable thing at that point is going to be some books.
No joke.
Right?
brett dasovic
How to build things.
tim pool
How to build stuff.
How to distill alcohol.
How to use alcohol to distill other...
Just think about how to extract an element from...
How do you get iron out of dirt?
unidentified
You're looking at me.
brett dasovic
I gotta go find a book.
tim pool
And there are people who know this stuff.
Like how you find an iron deposit.
How do you separate the iron from the other...
How do you get a fire hot enough to actually smelt?
And it's crazy that, like, this is commonplace back in the day, but very few people know how to do this stuff.
unidentified
And you won't have YouTube to look it up on, which is how I fix everything.
phil labonte
This is something that, like, if you pay attention to the prepper community, like, one of the things that they say all the time is, like, these things should be your hobbies now when they can be hobbies.
You should be learning, like Tim says, you know, get chickens.
You should have that stuff, you know, as a hobby.
So that way...
If a time ever comes where you need it, you're valuable to your community.
Because if you're a blacksmith and you make knives for fun or you make whatever it is for fun, right?
If something like that happens where there's a significant issue with the way our society works and we have to rewind the clock by 150 years, then you become one of the most popular guys in town.
Because no one can come and steal.
Your knowledge of blacksmithing.
You know, it's not like you have a thing that people can come in and kick the door in and take from it.
tim pool
Except you do know why Smith is the most common name, right?
phil labonte
Well, because there was a lot of blacksmiths.
tim pool
No.
phil labonte
Why?
unidentified
Because there was one blacksmith who did it a lot.
tim pool
Because when war broke out in Europe, they would never send a blacksmith to war.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
And when conquered, the conquerors would not murder the blacksmiths.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
So the Smiths were able to have lots of kids.
phil labonte
That's my point.
Like, if you know how to do something, whether it be blacksmithing or, you know, whether it be farming or whatever it may be, like, you know, if you're a gardener and you have, like, this big, massive garden, it's like you become valuable.
And while you have the time, it's not a bad idea to make one or some of these things into a hobby when it's, you know...
tim pool
Can you imagine, like, what's going to happen if...
If these shortages get really bad and we do see the economy just train wreck, what's a feminist dance major going to do?
It's like you show up on the farm and it's like...
phil labonte
They'll do what they've always done in history.
tim pool
If you want to eat, you've got to work.
unidentified
They'll be OnlyFans but in books.
Have we had that in history before?
tim pool
Alright, let's jump to this next story from the Postmillennial.
Breaking, Wisconsin Supreme Court temporarily suspends Judge Hannah Dugan.
After FBI arrest.
They say the Wisconsin Supreme Court temporarily suspended the judge after she was arrested for facilitating the escape of an illegal immigrant from a courtroom when Dugan learned that ICE was planning to arrest the defendant, Eduardo Flores.
She got him out.
Yep.
Quote, She's charged with a felony and a misdemeanor,
and if convicted, could face up to six years in prison and a $350,000 fine.
The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reports that typically in crimes of this kind of sentences are substantially shorter than the maximum.
However, I will say, the feds have like a 90 plus percent conviction rate.
brett dasovic
You never take a case you can't win to court.
tim pool
I think she's going to take a plea of some sort.
Unless she goes full resistance and then comes out, gets a microphone and says, I will not let Trump, Hitler, blah, blah, blah.
And then she makes $20 million in donations.
unidentified
Yes.
And then she becomes a member of Congress whenever her sentence is up.
That's exactly what's going to happen.
tim pool
No, no, no.
She just runs in the midterm.
Regardless of her sentence.
unidentified
Yeah.
I mean, this is Wisconsin.
So she'll win.
Magically, those votes will come in and she will win.
brett dasovic
Is this a form of just toxic empathy?
I understand that she's politically radicalized.
tim pool
It's cult behavior.
Because the victims that were mercilessly beaten by this man were in court too.
So it wasn't an issue of empathy.
It was an issue of hatred.
She hates Trump and the right so much that she wanted this man to escape to cause pain to...
To Trump and his base.
brett dasovic
Despite the fact that she was able to see the victims firsthand.
tim pool
And the victims were waiting and she ushered the guy out the back door to escape.
unidentified
Also, anybody with half a brain now, like you said, she knows that she's going to turn into a hero here to the left.
She's going to make a lot of money and she's going to become a member of Congress.
I'm not even like, that's not even like hyperbolic.
She's going to become a member of Congress.
brett dasovic
She's going to hang out with that lady who testified against Kavanaugh during his hearing.
What was her name?
tim pool
You know, it's just remarkable how evil these people are.
unidentified
Lacey Ford.
Thank you.
tim pool
Who were we talking to recently?
I was talking to somebody, and they were talking about how they were surprised when they got into, like, when they went from the private sector to the public sector, how instantly people they knew turned on them.
And I was like, yeah, uh-huh.
Yeah, I've certainly experienced that too.
This Christine Blasey Ford, was that her name?
Yeah.
Her story was psychotic nonsense.
I have two doors on my house now because I'm scared.
It's like, you have a back door and a front door?
Like, what are we talking about?
No, I had to create two front doors because I'm scared.
Then a report came out, no, she split her house to Airbnb one portion of it to make extra money.
Then she goes, I've been afraid to fly ever since.
How'd you get here?
I flew.
Do you ever take a vacation?
I do.
How'd you get there?
I fly.
What the?
She's just lying.
Then you get the E. Jean Carroll lady, where it's like 30 years later, she's like, Trump brought me into the Bergdorf Goodman.
Nobody was there for some reason.
And we unlocked a dressing room door.
brett dasovic
One of the things that I think is true about this is like to the – these arguments are always very, very persuasive to normies because when you ask the question, well, why would she lie?
To a normie, they can't imagine a world where your politics are so insane that you would say something so blatantly not true for the sake of political gain.
tim pool
Unless you said, well, she's actually, she's far right.
And she's lying because she's trying to trick the left.
Oh, now I understand why she would lie.
Gotta call her right wing.
brett dasovic
It's like a 6D chess.
tim pool
Sixth.
Sixth dimensional.
Back in multiversal time travel.
unidentified
Who was the follow-up to Blasey Ford?
Remember they gave her a New York magazine photo shoot?
tim pool
Was that the one where she claimed that Kavanaugh was waiting outside of—there was a line of men?
unidentified
There was a train.
Yeah.
tim pool
And they kidnapped women and put them in the room and then ran trains on them by waiting outside?
phil labonte
That is so insane that there was someone that tried to— Rewarded behavior.
unidentified
I mean, she got the—who did the photo shoot for her?
Wasn't the famous photographer did the photo shoot for her for the New York Magazine?
phil labonte
In New York or whatever?
I know you're right.
It blows my mind.
Especially when you bring these things up out of context so that we can think about them without being steeped in the emotion of it.
brett dasovic
The moment when it was happening.
phil labonte
That person literally tried to pass off the idea.
tim pool
Julie Swetnick.
phil labonte
Yes, Swetnick.
Pass off the idea that there were running trains on kidnapped women.
In a college.
Like, that was, like, the norm.
unidentified
I want to see, like, a where are they now.
Like, I'd love to see what...
Does Swetnick go back to her regular job after that and then just go, you know?
brett dasovic
I mean, it all...
tim pool
Remember there was another guy who claimed that he, like, raped a woman on a boat?
And when the feds contacted him, he, like, recanted and got charged or something?
They were just...
Yeah, let me see if I can...
Let me see if I can find this one.
unidentified
It was absolutely insane.
And again, all totally rewarded.
All of this is rewarded.
So for a normie who still has some morals and values, you think, oh, I'm going to get busted lying.
But in these instances, it's like, hey, you can just get away.
Look, you're going to get probably a book deal, which didn't Blasey Ford get a book deal?
brett dasovic
Probably.
phil labonte
I don't know.
unidentified
I mean, at least you'll be famous for a while.
You get a couple of speaking gigs.
You make some good money.
Get out there.
Get taken care of.
It's just unbelievable how this is rewarded.
phil labonte
It really is.
Especially, again, when you look back on it and you think, you go through some of the claims.
And it was all just because they didn't want this guy to be on the Supreme Court.
tim pool
A guy claimed that he wrote a letter to Sheldon Whitehouse's office concerning a rape on a boat in August of 1985.
And I think he ended up getting criminally charged for that.
I'm not entirely sure.
But this is the thing.
They make these stories up.
I've told this before.
There are people that I've known that I consider to be really good friends from back in the day.
I used to skateboard with them.
All of a sudden, they're on X making up stories about me.
Tweeting at leftist podcasters who gleefully post this.
It's a world of psychotic cult-like behavioral lies.
Anyway, back to the main point.
You asked the question, is she doing this because of empathy?
It's because it's a cult.
Really, these are low-cognition people whose whole worldview is Oh, now's my chance to get something for me.
I think they're evil.
You know, I was talking to Jack Posobiec.
I said, Jack, you know, I'm not a Christian.
The resurrection story really, I just, it doesn't do it for me.
But I'll tell you what does.
Possession.
You tell me these people are possessed by demons and I'm more inclined to believe in your religion.
And I'm not joking about that because there are people that I know, that I've known my whole life.
That all of a sudden have turned evil, and I can't comprehend how.
brett dasovic
And you say, that's even scarier to say low-cognition people.
I'm like, well, she's a judge!
Like, I used to imagine that judges were intelligent, but if you can be both a judge and psychotic, then that's insane.
unidentified
I went to law school.
There's a bunch of dumb people in law school.
I mean, you don't have to be a genius to get through it.
You have to memorize enough stuff to pass tests.
That's it.
phil labonte
Yeah, you need to know precedent is one of the things.
unidentified
Literally, so there are kind of cheat sheets like Cliff Notes back in the day, but there's like three, four pages.
They sell them.
They're laminated in most bookstores.
So you can get constitutional law, tort law, stuff like that.
And my professors back in the day in law school were like, don't go get those.
And I'm like, oh, I'm going to go get this then.
And literally, everything that was on the final exam was on a six to eight page.
Laminated thing.
And that's the same stuff that's on bar exams.
Doesn't take much.
phil labonte
That's so depressing.
brett dasovic
Unreal.
And to your point about the story about when they talk about Brett Kavanaugh and suddenly he's in a dorm room and they're running trains on women and it sounds like a bad Hollywood movie, right?
Like some crazy story.
That's because politics is Hollywood for ugly people.
tim pool
They claimed that Brett Kavanaugh...
Was party to these events where they would force women into a room.
Men would line up outside the door taking turns raping her.
While she's screaming and like everyone's just drinking and laughing about it.
phil labonte
Just unreal.
Just so completely and totally unreal.
And that was actually...
I mean, granted, it didn't do what it was intended to do, which was prevent him from getting on the Supreme Court.
So there was some...
There were some reasonable people that were like, okay, this is nuts.
But even still, to think that that's a moral way to behave and then to, again, to do those kind of things and then afterwards act as if you are the upright citizen of good character.
tim pool
What was the next thing they tried doing to Kavanaugh?
phil labonte
I don't remember.
Kill him?
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
Yeah, there was a guy around his house, right?
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Showed up at his house with tools to kidnap and murder Brett Kavanaugh.
So when I see the ruling sometimes, I'm just like, you can see what they're thinking.
Like, Amy Coney Barrett is terrified.
She comes in.
She helps overturn Roe v.
unidentified
Wade.
tim pool
I'm pretty sure she was at the Conservatives on that one.
Now she's just ruling liberal the whole time.
Yeah, somebody got to her.
And maybe it was the death threat against Kavanaugh with a guy showing up.
She's probably thinking, you know, it really just comes down to which horse are you betting on?
You think Trump's going to win?
You think he's going to lose?
And if he's going to lose, you better play ball.
Otherwise, they're coming for you.
brett dasovic
And they'll keep doing it, too, because one of the things is when you believe that fervently in almost a religious manner that what you're doing is right, you will start to believe that the ends justify the means and that will justify them to do whether it's lying about something that very clearly never happened in college at the expense of someone's reputation or attempting to harm someone who you believe is politically opposite of you.
if you believe that you are in the moral right there, and they do, they're willing to go above and beyond any all measure to do harm
unidentified
Also, we don't know half the things that happen security-wise to these Supreme Court justices.
We knew the one story about Kavanaugh.
I mean, this is probably a regular thing that happens.
These death threats come through, and if you're not used to them...
I mean, it's so weird to be like, hey, I get them.
When I'm over the target, I get them.
It's fine.
Conceal carry, it's fine.
tim pool
Let me show you this post.
I put this up a week ago.
But it exemplifies this.
It's from the Reddit thread, Change My View.
A person will post an opinion and then say, argue against me.
And they wrote, American conservatism is objectively a dangerous ideology, and those associated with it do not deserve a platform.
Writing, conservatism is undeniably a dangerous ideology.
It seeks to fundamentally destroy and undermine democracy, targets minorities, has led to authoritarian regimes, and has destroyed the US economy more times than I have fingers on my hands.
The far-right pro-capitalist system they seek to implement only benefits the rich while leaving the poor, middle class, and everybody else to rot.
They also seek to destroy education and brainwash children to believe in their hateful ideas.
Conservatism is not about freedom and small government.
It's about control.
Anybody who identifies as a conservative, or for that matter even a moderate right-leaning person, should not get a voice.
They are equally as guilty for the destruction of American democracy as Trump and his cronies.
Enabling conservatives to speak their minds is dangerous and leads to more harm to minorities.
Giving conservatives a voice further leads to fascism ideas being implemented.
It's time conservatives shut their mouths, listen to the real experts, and see that their hateful, divisive rhetoric and views are leading to fascism before our eyes.
Let me just summarize it real quick for you.
Conservatives are a threat to democracy, so we must end democracy.
phil labonte
This person is clearly anti-capitalism.
That's what it is.
They're making an anti-capitalist argument.
And ignoring the fact that capitalism is the engine that has pulled more people out of abject poverty than any other system that we've ever had.
They're totally unaware of it.
It's mind-boggling that people will make these arguments when they're literally sitting in a comfortable life because of things like capitalism and markets.
unidentified
But do you know how infected our society is with this and this anti-capitalism?
It's bad.
It's bad.
And one of the things, not to shout out my company here, but one of the things that we work on is exposing all of these organizations and these corporate oversight.
Like the Human Rights Council, who used to just do gay marriage.
Now they do corporate governance and they give scores on how woke and how DEI these companies are.
And same with, there's a thing called B Corps and B Labs.
Our capitalist companies, our American-made companies, are going and just being...
Giving over their oversight to these crazy leftists with those ideologies.
brett dasovic
Yeah, Hollywood has done a very, very good job of othering the idea of the billionaire.
It's one of these things where they've turned you into a supervillain no matter what, and they've turned you into some type of evil person.
I was talking earlier this week, they're rebooting a show called Royal Pains from the USA Network back in like 2008.
And in that show, there was lots of really, really rich people who had a concierge doctor in the Hamptons.
And most of those rich people were portrayed as eccentric and weird, but generally good-hearted.
And I said, they will never allow the ultra-rich to be portrayed in any type of positive way right now because they want to make sure that you as an average everyday person hold nothing but contempt for those who have made something for themselves and have built companies
that employ thousands of people.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Well, it's just about destroying the system.
Yeah. You look at everything that the unit party has given us over the past 30 years, and it was to gut and dismantle the United States.
Let's jump to this next story from the post-millennial.
Maryland man, Kilmar Abrego Garcia.
No, no, guys.
They put Maryland men in quotes.
Said to have been a gang member in 2018 court documents.
Quote, she is dating a gang member.
I think we have the images here.
Jenny Tayer says, the New York Post has obtained court docs from 2018 showing Kilmar Abrego Garcia was being accused of gang membership by his ex, his wife's ex, and the father of her two kids.
So let's pull up this document right here, which actually, it's harder to read now.
It says, motion and affidavit for, and then it's stamped over, filed.
It says, one, the underside party is acting to safeguard the children who are now in the physical custody of Jennifer Vasquez, Surratt says.
It says the children are in serious danger because she tried, I'm going to read it verbatim, okay?
She tried to kill herself.
And she left the kids with 11-year to take care off then.
And I'm afraid of my kids live are in the danger because she is dating a gang member.
I know these facts are to be true because I was there and the police was there too.
I have made the following attempts to notify Jennifer Vasquez-Sura.
Her response was, the court can't give you that custody of the kids because that...
I have no idea what that says.
Terapist?
Told me.
Is it meant to be therapist?
unidentified
Therapist.
tim pool
I don't know.
There's no H there.
brett dasovic
Sounds like I wrote this.
tim pool
Well, there you go.
So, fascinating.
That this just keeps getting worse and worse for Democrats.
That more and more evidence keeps emerging that this man is a gang member.
And they kept defending him.
They're going to keep defending him.
And what I absolutely love, as I mentioned this the other day, but on the David Pakman subreddit.
They were angry at conservatives saying something like, conservatives genuinely believe that Abrego Garcia is some gang member trafficking people and not just a family man who escaped El Salvador to practice family.
And it's like, why do you believe that?
Why do the liberals believe that narrative?
Because there's no evidence that's true.
The only evidence we have is he's been stopped multiple times, accused of trafficking, accused of being in a gang numerous times, adjudicated as being a gang member.
He's not from here.
The media lied about him being a Maryland man, and they still believe this stuff.
brett dasovic
They never would have known that the media lied because they never would have looked into it any deeper than the headline.
unidentified
How long until they redefined what a gang member is?
Gang is like a festival of friendship.
tim pool
Yeah, gang just means three people hanging out.
So he's a member of a friend group?
I have a friend group.
I'm a gang member now.
unidentified
I don't think we're far from that.
brett dasovic
I agree.
I saw West Side Story.
Those are practically jolly.
unidentified
They're out there snapping and dancing.
phil labonte
That's all it is.
tim pool
Well, the definition of gang is an organized group of criminals.
phil labonte
Yeah, but who's to say what a criminal is?
brett dasovic
Yeah.
unidentified
I didn't think the Yang gang were a bunch of criminals back in the day.
tim pool
You know, IJ walked earlier today.
phil labonte
Everyone breaks like two or three felonies a day, whether you realize it or not.
So who's to say what's actually worse than another, you know?
We should all just have compassion.
brett dasovic
Well, that's what I was talking about earlier, the toxic, toxic empathy and toxic compassion from Americans who really do – I think a lot of it is just the average everyday person doesn't want to seem like they're not sympathetic to other people.
tim pool
The reason why I don't believe it is because I have friends who are liberals and they post psychotic nonsense.
And so I send them messages saying, hey.
Hope this helps.
And they don't care.
So it's not an issue of trying to empathize with someone, because if Kilmar or Brego Garcia is the bad guy, or how about we do this?
The dude in the Wisconsin case, he's the bad guy.
He mercilessly beat a man.
I believe it was a man.
There were women there as witnesses.
I'm not sure if they were the victims, but let's just say he mercilessly beat someone.
And Fox News said he punched him, struck him in the face like 40 times, and then strangled them.
It is not empathy to let the bad guy escape.
Is that a bee or a fly?
unidentified
I don't know, but it's pretty fast for a bass fly.
tim pool
Maybe.
There's a bee that lives in here.
It's probably dead by now, but it's just exploring for some reason.
I got no beef with honeybees.
They're all right.
But anyway, what were we talking about?
Oh, yeah.
They don't empathize.
They simply seek to be a part of the cult.
So they will let villains escape so long as it's what the cult wants them to do.
brett dasovic
I guess I see it more as like there's layers to this type of interaction, which is like you have the journalists who write the biased story, you have the influencers and the politically initiated who parrot the story, and then you have the average everyday person who only reads the headline,
and their empathy says, well, why would he deport a guy from Maryland?
And then they never look any farther into it, and those people vote too.
tim pool
Yep.
brett dasovic
That's my problem with it.
tim pool
And they answer polls.
I gotta be honest, I don't think anybody answers polls.
I think it's fake.
The polls are just sitting there and you're like, let's just say Trump's doing well.
unidentified
When's the last time you got a poll?
brett dasovic
The Nielsen ratings.
tim pool
To be fair, I get requests from civics all the time.
Civics will email me non-stop.
And I do them sometimes.
unidentified
I think 2003 was the last time I got any kind of phone call or anything like that.
Maybe I just have a lot go to spam.
tim pool
You know why I don't answer now when I get the phone calls though?
Is because when I do, the only thing I hear is it goes like, shh.
And then I hang up.
I'm not kidding.
Have you guys gotten those phone calls?
unidentified
You might tell us when they say Timothy.
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
No, but you know those phone calls that people have been getting where you answer it and it's just like a person speaks?
It's an automated Chinese phone call?
phil labonte
I have not.
tim pool
You've never seen those?
Yeah, big story.
I was Chinese robocalls.
So I just stopped answering my phone.
unidentified
I only get American robocalls.
American made.
No, what's interesting here about these cult members, by the way, you see who goes to these Democrat rallies now.
You see who's, like, lapping up the Bernie and the Tim Walz.
tim pool
Real quick, sorry guys, look at this.
This is from two weeks ago.
North Carolina's Chinese-Americans of robocalls posing as officials.
It's been going on for some time.
It's two weeks ago the DOJ's warning about this.
This is Trump admin.
brett dasovic
I like the idea that we're going to get, like, Chinese-Americans to start recording these calls now that we're bringing manufacturing back home.
tim pool
We need Chinese robots.
What were you saying?
unidentified
Oh, yeah, yeah.
So you take a look at the people who go to these Tim Walsh events and the Marine events.
These cult members, they're old hippies, right?
And they're trying to relive their childhood.
They're trying to be a part of something when we've had it too good in this country for too long.
And I know things are bad, but we haven't had a civil war.
We haven't had some sort of major action in a long time.
And they want to feel like they're a part of something.
So it's much easier to get them into this cult because they feel like they're...
Affecting change by getting out there and screaming about Trump.
brett dasovic
And they've got, I'm sure, a little bit of guilt from how successful they are.
Have you ever seen that picture that was going viral around the time of the election?
It was like the husband and the wife, they're out to this really nice dinner and they have their champagne glasses and they're like, these two boomers are voting for Kamala Harris this election.
And the top response is like, great, one more F you on the way out.
That's what I think.
tim pool
Did you see the poll for boomers in Canada?
In Canada, they asked the different generations what their biggest concerns were in the election.
And Gen Z said the cost of housing, the cost of food, good jobs.
And the boomers said Trump.
In Canada!
The boomers were like, we're voting for the liberals because we hate Trump.
And Gen Z was like, we need food.
brett dasovic
And social scare and like Medicare and stuff like that that they will benefit from but the kids will not.
tim pool
I'm saying this is...
In January, a bunch of articles came out about this demographic cliff because this is the beginning.
2007 is when people stopped having kids.
Like, the numbers tanked.
brett dasovic
Look, all those kids were at the Minecraft movie.
We'll be fine.
tim pool
Dude.
And the other thing I'm hearing, too, is that of the Gen Zers who are, like, around 18, 19 who do work, they have anxiety disorder.
They don't answer their phones.
They're terrified.
They're socially awkward.
brett dasovic
Did you see the stories about kids bringing their parents to job interviews?
unidentified
What?
phil labonte
No!
unidentified
That's a thing.
brett dasovic
They are bringing their parents to their job interviews.
phil labonte
How could you expect to actually get hired?
brett dasovic
Some of my favorite people to watch on TikTok, if I'm watching it...
unidentified
What?
tim pool
26% of Gen Zers want a parent to a job interview?
brett dasovic
Watch some of these TikTokers that are like hiring managers who have TikTok accounts that have huge followings because it's just them talking about the insane stuff that Gen Z is doing.
unidentified
Wow.
Yeah?
phil labonte
I can't even imagine how you, as an employer, would say yes.
unidentified
You just play along with that and let them go?
I mean, you don't want to deal with somebody's family.
tim pool
No, I mean...
phil labonte
You think pronouns are bad?
Come on.
tim pool
I would probably be as mean as I could be, but in a way that wasn't too direct.
You know, like, if someone applied for a job and they showed up and their parent was there...
I would not do something like, you are pathetic, what a loser.
I'd probably bust out laughing and then ask them where the camera was.
phil labonte
Berate their parent.
You think this is okay?
This is you teaching your child how to be independent and be an adult?
You helping, you're coming to the interview?
You should be ashamed of yourself.
unidentified
How do you handle that?
Can you tell me what's really good about your son, sir?
What are his best qualities?
Does he clean his room?
tim pool
Well, we already know what your greatest weakness is.
Let's move on from that question.
I don't need to ask.
phil labonte
Are you both going to show up?
Do I have to provide a desk for both of you?
brett dasovic
I mean, like, if you just...
tim pool
No, you know what you do when they show up with their parent?
You walk up and shake the parent's hand and then ask the kid to wait in the car?
phil labonte
Go wait in the car, son.
tim pool
Yeah, be like, thank you for coming.
I'd love to hear what you can bring to this job.
Oh, no, I'm the parent.
Sure.
You kid, hey, wait in the car.
We're going to talk about this job they're going to get.
phil labonte
Going outside, your daddy's going to talk.
tim pool
Wow, how old are you?
I'm 47. Really?
And what do you do for a living?
I'm a lawyer.
You're hired!
I mean, it's a low-paying, entry-level job, but thanks for coming for the interview.
brett dasovic
No, they don't do that anymore.
tim pool
No, it's my son who's coming for the interview.
unidentified
What?
brett dasovic
There is two qualified.
So the 47-year-old lawyer going in for the job mopping up at the grocery store is not going to get the job.
He's overqualified.
tim pool
I'd hire him.
I'd say you, sir, are hired.
But it's my son who's here for the job.
brett dasovic
This wasn't even for entry-level jobs.
These were for jobs for people with degrees out of college.
tim pool
So Gen Z is developmentally disabled and Gen Alpha doesn't exist.
Gen Alpha is projected to be between 40 and 48 million.
So Gen X is like mid-60s.
Boomers are like mid-60s.
Millennials are like 72. Gen Z I think is like 69 million.
Gen Alpha is supposed to be around 40 to 48 because millennials start having kids.
And then you've got Gen Z, developmentally disabled.
And then you've got Gen Alpha who just doesn't exist.
brett dasovic
There's also a deep sense of nihilism amongst Gen Z where they just don't see a future for this country and they don't really – it's like don't – quitters never lose.
So why bother trying if the game has been rigged against you?
And that's kind of my argument.
phil labonte
Quitters never lose.
brett dasovic
Well, that's kind of my argument.
Like if you – you can say all you want that AOC can't win an election, whether it has to do with their voice or whatever it is.
But when things get bad enough and somebody starts waving in front of you a catch-all solution that is the government, you have to be worried about something like that.
Even somebody with a mediocre presentation can win if the population is desperate enough and the solution they're offering is all-encompassing, even if we know that.
phil labonte
Yeah, and I don't think that Gen Z and younger will know it's a lie, because this generation sees cars that drive.
For you, right?
That's normal now.
Not every car does, but it's normal to be like, oh yeah, my Tesla can drive for me.
They're going to be the first generation that sees a significant amount of actual humanoid robots walking around.
Five years, there are going to be a lot of humanoid robots walking around society doing things that used to be done by people.
Within five years, that's going to be normal enough where people are like, oh.
And the impression that they get is, we don't have to work anymore.
unidentified
It turns into Wally.
phil labonte
Yeah, exactly.
Because they're already talking about it.
You hear people talking about that on Reddit, saying, oh, you know, the super abundance is coming when the singularity comes, etc.
They all have the notion that there's no point in trying, because in just a few years, just a handful of years, Everything's going to be automated and you're not going to have to do any work.
brett dasovic
Yeah, and then they'll just introduce the UBI.
tim pool
Let's jump to this next story.
Let's jump to the story from The Verge.
Reddit bans researchers who used AI bots to manipulate commenters.
Indeed, Reddit's lawyer called the University of Zurich researchers project an improper and highly unethical experiment.
So, I was browsing Reddit.
As I often do, I like to read what the liberals is doing.
And I saw this post that said, you know, it was like alerting people to, I think it was the Change My View subreddit, that researchers were using bot accounts to manipulate the opinions of people who are browsing by spam blasting them.
This has resulted in this story where they've banned it.
They say, commenters on the popular subreddit changed my mind.
Pretty sure it was changed my view.
Found out last week and they've been majorly duped for months.
University of Zurich researchers set out to investigate the persuasiveness of large language models in natural online environments by unleashing bots pretending to be a trauma counselor, a, quote, black man opposed to Black Lives Matter, and a sexual assault survivor on unwitting posters.
The bots left 1,783 comments and amassed over 10,000 comment karma before being exposed.
They say Reddit's chief legal officer, Ben Lee, says the company is considering legal action over the improper and highly unethical experiment that is deeply wrong on both the moral and legal level.
I mean, guys, Reddit's all fake.
These comments have been bots for a long time.
We've known about this, that Democrats hired companies to tell people what to respond to other people.
So what would happen is you'd go on like the Joe Rogan subreddit and Joe would say something interesting.
And these these liberal leaning organizations hired staff to go in and comment specifically like this is wrong and here's why.
So that you constantly felt like you were on the wrong side of history to force public opinion.
This is just them exposing what they've...
These companies have been doing forever.
brett dasovic
You know, Tim, that's how they're going to take Superman down in the James Gunn Superman movie.
Did you hear this?
tim pool
Are you joking?
brett dasovic
There's a rumor, a rumor that Superman is going to fight online trolls and that Lex Luthor has mutant bot farms that go against Superman.
Hashtag super shit.
I literally, we just did a video on it today.
unidentified
Is that how Brainiac is?
tim pool
Hold on.
So in the trailer for the new Superman, you see him walking into the building and throwing stuff at him?
brett dasovic
It could actually...
I mean, I don't...
Again, this is a rumor.
I have no idea if this is true.
But James Gunn, given the fact that he got fired from Disney because of people taking offense to his tweets, it'll be the greatest self-insert ever.
And I know...
tim pool
He's making himself Superman.
brett dasovic
Well, my biggest complaint for this whole movie is that he's made the whole movie about him and it's not even about Superman anymore.
So this will be the biggest self-insert ever as Superman has to take on online trolls.
I'm just imagining like a world where Superman is like constantly dealing with Lex Luthor, the reply guy on X.
tim pool
In the movie, Superman is frustrated by social media backlash with the hashtag super shit being mentioned several times as really getting under his skin.
Meanwhile, in Lex's interdimensional world, hundreds of mutant monkeys are shown typing furiously at keyboards.
Flooding social media with hate against...
brett dasovic
Monkey Bot Farms!
tim pool
Okay, hold on.
There's no way that's real, but I hope it is.
brett dasovic
I hope it is.
tim pool
I will see that movie twice.
unidentified
That would be amazing.
brett dasovic
I'm telling you.
I'm here for it.
It's absolutely ridiculous.
tim pool
Yo, that sounds like something James Gunn would do.
brett dasovic
Yes, it does.
tim pool
And I seriously hope he did.
brett dasovic
I mean, I don't think people will like it.
I will like it because it'll be hilarious, but they tried this with She-Hulk and it didn't work there, so I don't know if this is going to work.
unidentified
It would make sense with the attitude Guy Gardner in it.
Like kind of the good guy who doesn't care about the commenters because he's kind of a dick on his own.
Is he?
Yeah, he's like the nasty Green Lantern with the attitude.
brett dasovic
Mr. Terrific.
tim pool
He has a bowl cut because he doesn't care what people think about him.
unidentified
Mr. Terrific.
brett dasovic
Mr. Terrific would have a really good social media page.
unidentified
He's the tech guy.
This actually lines up if you look at the characters.
I think that's, I mean, maybe not the monkeys, but I think this is real.
brett dasovic
I don't know if Hot Girl has social media, though.
unidentified
She's just there because they need to EI it.
They're trying to shut down her OnlyFans at the same time.
brett dasovic
Oh no.
tim pool
Lex is using the monkeys to mass report her account.
unidentified
She was trying to not be a violent superhero but because she lost all of her income from OnlyFans.
brett dasovic
Think of the money you can make when you're immortal too and you get reborn.
You just start right over.
tim pool
But there's like a period where you're old and you can't do it so you can only do it like...
20 out of 80 years.
brett dasovic
Before that, she was doing just Playboy, and then as the generations go on, she evolves.
tim pool
Did they change that story from they were reborn to they're aliens?
brett dasovic
I don't know.
tim pool
They're aliens now, right?
unidentified
Actually, my favorite, by the way, if we're going to go down this nerd route, is Justice League Unlimited, which I think is probably the best DC product that's ever been made.
tim pool
The cartoon?
It was, I agree, yeah.
I think the Justice League show in general was some of the best iteration of those characters.
Why are we talking about Superman?
brett dasovic
Because bot farms.
If bot farms can take down Superman, it can certainly take down Reddit.
tim pool
Where did this rumor come from?
MTTSH?
unidentified
It came from AI.
brett dasovic
I pointed out in the video, it's my time to shine hello, which is extremely unreliable.
I point that out.
tim pool
Oh, you've got to pay for it too, aren't you?
Oh, please.
I mean...
Please.
I hope that is the plot.
brett dasovic
I apologize for derailing everybody.
phil labonte
Don't apologize.
That was actually good.
unidentified
You brought us on the rails.
phil labonte
Yeah.
unidentified
We were on before then.
tim pool
But look, I think dead internet theory is a real thing.
And I think the internet's fake.
And look, man.
Most of these podcasts people think are big or not big.
I mean not most, but a lot of them.
I just think that's where we're headed.
Perception is reality.
And I've been just looking at everything.
You know, because I know we've been talking about the demographic cliff quite a bit because it's on my mind, I guess.
But I'm wondering if one of the results of population collapse is that we are going to automate everything.
Have you guys seen the automated McDonald's?
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
It's like the robot arm grabs the burger and then drops it.
And then it goes and scoops the fries.
Why not?
phil labonte
And a lot of that stuff...
I mean, I hate to say it, but a lot of times when they automate stuff like that, you're getting a better prepared product more accurately.
unidentified
You know who doesn't bring their parents to a job interview?
Robots.
phil labonte
Robots don't.
I mean, look, man.
tim pool
Actually, to be completely honest, robots actually do 100% of the time.
Like, the guy who manufactures or owns the robots is doing the pitch as to why you should pay for their robots.
Like, this is the robot.
I've made it.
You should get it.
brett dasovic
Is part of this also...
Okay, so you're saying that they're not...
Gen Alpha aren't getting first-time jobs in entry-level fields.
tim pool
Gen Alpha?
brett dasovic
I'm sorry, Gen Z is not populating entry-level jobs.
Okay, right?
tim pool
And, like...
So, obviously, there are Gen Z that are completely capable.
Many of them work here.
We've stolen all of them.
There's three.
But no, of the millions, 79 million Gen Z, many of them are not working.
Many of them are not 18. There's a gap in this period because of the Great Recession, meaning there's a dip in the age of 18, which is so weird.
So, when this happens, you've got, what is Gen Z?
It was 97 to 2012, I think.
brett dasovic
Is that what it is?
tim pool
Yeah, I think that's what estimated range.
So you've got kids are being born like normal.
There is a declining birth rate, don't get me wrong, but relatively stable with a slight decline up to 2007.
Then a massive fertility drop off.
Then it slowly rebounds in 2010, 11, 12. So there's going to be a lot more 27, 26, 25 year old Gen Z. And right now, relatively few.
19, 20, 18, and then a lot of younger.
There's going to be this weird drop-off.
It's a weird phenomenon.
So right now, in this next couple of years, is where we're going to really get hit by this lack of 18-year-olds.
Largely what this means is the universities are screwed.
They're going out of business.
The story I read earlier was a 180-year-old university went under because there's no one to enroll anymore.
They build up this big infrastructure as population expands.
They add new buildings.
They add more professors, more jobs.
Then there's less and less young people.
There's more and more competition.
Goes under.
Liquidate the assets.
Shut it down.
This is what's crazy about it.
This is the analogy I used this morning.
If there is one shoe store, everybody's got to buy shoes, right?
So let's say there's one shoe store and 10 people live in town.
They go to the one place to buy the shoes, the shoemaker, the cobbler.
He's good.
Then one day...
You know, a bunch of people start moving into the town or people are having babies.
Now you have 100 people in the town.
Massive population boom.
That one shoemaker can't cut it.
He can only handle 10 shoes.
So what happens?
Nine more shoe stores pop open to provide shoes for all of the other people who live there.
You now have 10 shoe stores.
If you get an abrupt population collapse by 50% down to 50 people, it does not go down to five shoe stores.
It goes to zero.
Because what happens is you have all these shoe stores that are open.
And if it's a short-term hiccup, those 50 people will split their resources among 10 different shoe stores.
They'll all fall short of the money they need to survive by 50% and go out of business simultaneously.
You may go down to one shoe store, you'll get shortages.
But this is what happens with fixed infrastructure.
So what we're looking at right now, it's going to be Detroit times 10. I suppose we'll see.
phil labonte
All because of a lack of actual manpower.
tim pool
Lack of manpower also means lack of economic stimulus in general.
People who aren't working also aren't buying things.
But you know what I see from this and why I loop it back into the bot farm stuff?
The end result really does feel like it's going to be live in the pot and eat the bugs.
Look, the restaurants out here that are closing because they can't find labor, they're going to be like, yep.
The only food we have to feed you now is going to be oatmeal.
Oatmeal and, you know, pea protein because lack of labor.
The robots can make oats and peas, but we can't really...
No more delicious sushi.
Sorry.
That's too complicated for the robots.
But if you plug into the Neuralink, meaning whatever you want, you put the Neuralink headset on, you go into VR world, and you will eat a smorgasbord of everything you've ever wanted.
brett dasovic
What other industries would be hit the hardest?
Because I guess when I was thinking about this, you're talking about how they're not able to find employees.
And then I think back to when I was that age, and it was more that the boomers weren't retiring.
And you had a generation of people who weren't finding careers after going to college because they went, they got their degree, but nobody was retiring.
So there were no positions for them.
And it's now we're at the opposite end of that.
tim pool
You know, man, it's such a big picture and it's so hard to see everything.
A lot of Gen Z are developmentally disabled, and I'm not saying that to be a dick.
I'm saying they have social anxiety disorder.
They are hikikomori.
They don't want to go outside.
They don't know how to get jobs.
They live at home.
They're in their early 20s.
Failure to launch.
It's happening to a lot of Gen Z. What happens when the boomers die?
And we're 10 years or so away from a major mortality cliff, which is what they're calling it.
Boomers are going to drop down.
To an estimated 20 million in 10 years.
Because they're hitting life expectancy.
These older Gen Z, whose parents are either older, like Gen X, or younger boomers, they're not going to have anyone to feed them.
They're not going to have a source of income.
If all you're doing is sitting at home, playing video games, and not getting a job, and it's failure to launch, sooner or later, those resources go dry.
What happens?
brett dasovic
I mean, I would like to think that Hoping Against Hope is that the failure to launch is also the parents.
There's the discussion about whether, you know, I don't necessarily agree.
I don't agree that you should just kick the kids out at 18, right?
Which is something that's happened to a lot of people.
But also, like, if the parents die and they don't have anybody protecting them anymore, then by their own nature, they have to go and make something happen.
Otherwise, you can't just lay there and die.
So they have to go do something for themselves.
And maybe that allows them to...
unidentified
We're there.
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah. I've been saying we have a managerial crisis for a long time.
I've been talking with other people who run businesses, and there is a managerial crisis.
I don't know what happened, but it may be that there's not enough young people.
Or this gap in this age demographic because of the financial crisis has been persistent in terms of training as well.
There's not enough people to have been taught these jobs.
So let's go hard analogy.
Doesn't apply 100%.
Let's say you've got, you know, 10 brackets.
10-year-old, 20-year-old, 30-year-old, 40-year-old, 50, 60, 70, 80. And, you know, at 30...
A person is now a master of their profession.
At 40, they're training a 20-year-old.
The 20-year-old becomes a master of their profession, turns 40, trains a 20-year-old.
Let's say you drop all of the 20-year-olds.
The 40-year-old goes, I have no one to train.
So they keep working, and this gap persists.
The next group, 10-year-olds move up 10 years into that bracket.
There is now no one to train them.
When you have this—I think we may be facing this managerial crisis because the forced retirements during COVID meant that people were leaving without training their replacements, and you have a demographic drop-off.
So you have substantially less people to learn the trade and an abrupt firing which resulted in people not training the trade.
And now you have businesses that can't hire people.
They're failing to run, and they're shutting down.
And then, of course, you have jaded Gen Z. You've got the developmentally disabled ones who are suffering from social anxiety disorder.
They can't answer the phone.
They can't talk to people properly.
And then you have others that just think it's pointless.
Don't get me wrong.
There's a lot of Gen Z that are moving to the right that are reportedly finding Jesus in Christianity.
And so they're going to survive.
They're going to make it work.
They're driven to do so.
But these other ones, I don't know what happens.
But I will tell you, people don't just roll over and die.
brett dasovic
But how would this have happened prior to this generation?
You said a 40-year-old trains a 20-year-old.
Can you give me an example?
Because, again, when I think of this, I don't think of them as training someone and then leaving.
I think of what we talked about in my generation was the boomers never retiring.
So you train someone to then never leave your job anyway.
tim pool
That's part of the problem.
That's why I'm saying it's not necessarily one for one.
I'm trying to highlight that this is a problem.
It's granular.
And it will have a percentage-based effect on the market.
So if normally an older generation trains a younger generation, but now you have abrupt retirements and you have less of that generation, we might see, what does that result in?
7-8% economic downturn because there's not enough people to run these jobs.
The demand will return if the generations after are inflated, but Gen Alpha is half the size of millennials.
It's like a little bit more than half.
So there's going to be no demand and no labor.
So you will live in the pod.
You will eat the bugs.
Let's jump to this next story from the New York Post.
The story is quite simple, my friends.
People are reportedly going blind from taking a drug to make them lose weight.
My understanding is all the drug doesn't make you vomit.
Am I wrong about that?
brett dasovic
It suppresses your appetite.
unidentified
Yeah, doesn't it slow down your digestive system?
tim pool
Yes, but like, how does it suppress your appetite?
phil labonte
I've heard other things that it actually does affect your ability to...
What?
So I've heard that it actually works to help...
Make you more disciplined.
If you have cravings for alcohol, it helps with that.
If you have cravings for nicotine, it helps with that.
So it's not just about food.
tim pool
It slows down how fast food leaves your stomach, making you feel full longer after eating.
brett dasovic
They call it intrusive food thoughts.
Like people who eat late at night.
tim pool
It really is crazy to me that there are people who can't just...
Like they have no control over their bodies.
No, for real.
Honestly, there are a lot of people, and I know it's normal, but I just don't comprehend this, that are like, I wish I didn't eat that food, but I'm going to eat it anyway.
And it's like, have you considered just not doing that?
phil labonte
There are a lot of people that think that discomfort is something to be avoided at all costs.
tim pool
That's not what I mean.
I'm saying that there are people who quite literally go, I wish I wasn't eating this pizza right now.
And I'm like, just put it down.
phil labonte
But the thing that's making them continue to eat it is they have the desire.
And to say, I'm not going to indulge that desire, which is...
tim pool
This is my point.
They have no control over their bodies.
They're like, help me, please.
I can't...
My hand!
It's making me drink this!
unidentified
Well, you have to add in all the steps to go to the store to buy it or order it as well.
I mean, there are multiple levels to this.
Two weeks ago, I went for a 72-hour water fast and made it 88 hours.
I know I've got to get my stuff together.
It's just a mental game.
And, you know, if anybody out there is thinking about it, again, like, it's literally just all in your head.
tim pool
Water fast?
unidentified
Water fast.
So all you do is drink water for 72 hours.
tim pool
For a second, I thought you meant, like, you fasted water.
unidentified
No, I would drop dead.
I'm like, wait, what?
That's the opposite.
No, no, no.
tim pool
I'm an idiot.
unidentified
But no, I mean, it's very good for you.
I saw nothing negative about it.
I feel like, you know, for me in particular, I'm overweight right now, and I think I could probably go, if healthily done, a couple of weeks, and your body's energy.
tim pool
They say that when you fast, Your body's—the first thing your body does for energy when it goes to—when it goes for stores, it takes damaged cells.
It breaks down.
So I think Ian always talks about apoptosis.
No, that's something else.
Autophagy.
Autophagy.
There you go.
Serge's got me.
He's got me.
Apoptosis is when bad cells get destroyed by the body, and autophagy is when your body consumes the energy from bad cells, which makes you better.
Caloric deprivation increases lifespan.
unidentified
Well, and you realize very quickly that, like, you know, around day three, like, it's all mental.
Day three, you wake up and it's like, oh, this is another day.
I'm eating because of habit.
tim pool
I'm not saying that, like, look, if there's somebody who's overweight, if you're overweight and you're like, whatever, I don't care.
Like, I'm not saying that.
I'm saying that it's crazy to me that there are people who are like, I wish I wasn't so fat.
But I'm gonna eat anyway.
I know.
I will inject myself with this drug instead.
brett dasovic
There are people who have taken out, like, massive loans to be able to pay for their Ozempic and their Wagovi prescriptions.
unidentified
There was, I don't know how far and wide this interview went, but Sharon Osbourne was on Ozempic.
brett dasovic
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
And she did an interview with, who was it?
The comedian.
brett dasovic
It, like, destroyed her body, though.
tim pool
Yes.
unidentified
Her body basically didn't restart.
brett dasovic
Yeah.
unidentified
And so she wasn't able, her body wasn't getting the calories it needed, and she looked like death.
brett dasovic
Yep.
That's crazy.
tim pool
Today, like, my problem is getting enough calories when I'm skating or exercising.
So I took, like, a third cup of rice flour, poured water in it, stirred it up, microwaved it, put peanut butter on it, and just jammed it down my throat.
Because otherwise I don't get the calories when I'm skating.
I have the inverse problem.
I can't, I don't understand.
People are going blind.
And this is a known side effect, and they're like, whatever, let's do it anyway.
brett dasovic
Well, it's from decades of the commercials for any medication.
It says these side effects and it lists the worst things that could have ever happened to a person.
unidentified
Lump in your neck.
brett dasovic
And these things are now advertised.
We were at the mall recently and there were ads for Ozempic as a weight loss medication, not as a diabetes medication, which is what its actual labeled use is for.
And, you know, people these days, they look at that, they look at the easy fix, and it's a generation of kids.
The other thing that I thought was interesting about it is you've got a whole generation of kids raised on Adderall who never ate that much growing up anyways, and they go off the Adderall and they're like, holy crap, food tastes great.
They look for another medical solution.
unidentified
I'm going to throw this in in code so I don't violate any rules, but could you imagine if the thing from a couple of years ago, they told everybody it made you lose weight at the same time?
brett dasovic
They're like...
tim pool
The problem is...
What's his face?
Who was the mayor?
De Blasio.
Was like, look at these delicious French fries.
Look at this cheeseburger.
Oh boy, you can have one of these too.
It is.
Look, I can understand like if you're addicted to a drug or smoking, but I just don't understand.
brett dasovic
That type of eating hits the same pleasure center in the brain.
tim pool
But it feels to me like you're possessed.
How do you not control yourself?
phil labonte
The best way that I've ever been found to describe wanting a cigarette when I was relating it to someone else, it's like being hungry.
When I was really wanting a cigarette, the closest thing that I could describe it as is being really hungry.
Without the stomach pains, it's still a very similar, just like, man, I really want to eat that, whatever.
It's the same kind of motivation.
tim pool
You ever hear of that book that's like, what is it called?
It's like, this book will make you quit smoking or something?
phil labonte
There is a book called that, yeah.
tim pool
And it actually tells you to smoke while you're reading it.
By the time you're done, you'll never have another cigarette.
And I've heard people swear by it like it works.
phil labonte
I don't know, man.
brett dasovic
And then you get into Gen Z talking about, look, I'm never going to own a home.
My life is going to be miserable.
So their idea of splurging now is to buy good food.
And go to the grocery store and buy good food.
So a lot of it is that food is used, you know, they talk about eating emotionally.
tim pool
This is why they're not getting houses.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I mean, you're probably never going to...
You guys see that viral clip from Boy Meets World where Topanga and whatever the...
Everybody knows her name because...
unidentified
Corey.
tim pool
Corey.
There you go.
I don't know his name.
He was like, the house is $80,000 and you'll need $4,000 down.
It's like, where are we going to get $4,000?
It was something like that.
It was like a really cheap house and this was in the late 90s.
Now it's like...
A Gen Z couple, you know, they're like 23, 24, they're getting married, they want to buy a house.
Well, the down payment in this house is $100,000, and it's 500 grand if you want to live in your town where you work.
It's like, okay, I can't do that.
You know, like, we're in the middle of nowhere out here, and the houses are like 500 grand.
You're not going to own a house.
brett dasovic
So I'm going to go and buy good food instead, because if I'm going to be renting for the rest of my life, then damn it, I'm going to eat well while doing it.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
You know what, man?
You just don't, and you save your money.
unidentified
It's hard for people.
Like you said, they can't control themselves.
tim pool
I think it's entirely orchestrated, to be completely honest, because there's no way all of these things, I feel, could be an accident.
You've got the Democrats.
I would say it's the uniparty establishment saying, don't have kids.
It's bad for the environment.
The world is overpopulated.
Don't have kids.
Then you get a financial collapse.
Oh, no, now you can't have kids.
Better not.
Then you have, go have an abortion.
Just have abortions, don't have kids.
Then you have TV shows like Michelle, what's her face?
I don't remember her name, but she had the Netflix special where she was like, you get an abortion and you get an abortion.
phil labonte
Oh yeah, Michelle Wolfe.
tim pool
Wolfe, that was her name.
You have all of these things.
Then you have YouTube promoting van life.
Remember that viral trend of van life where they were like, look how great it is to live in a van!
It's the best thing ever!
brett dasovic
All those people had email jobs.
Those vans cost as much as some starter homes.
tim pool
But they were trying to...
Indeed.
To be fair, I built the van that I had.
I think it was like $35,000.
So it's not like it's cheap.
But it's not a house.
And then you get a big social push saying, why don't you go live in a van down by the river?
And young people all wanted to do it.
And many pursued it.
And it is really funny to see how many people tried it and then afterwards they were like, I was miserable and it was the worst thing ever.
Like, you lived in a car, dude!
What did you think it was going to be like?
brett dasovic
I didn't realize I wasn't going to be able to sleep in any parking lot I wanted any time and that they were going to be chasing me off places.
tim pool
The seventh night in a row of a cop banging on my window with a billy club telling me to move along or I'm under arrest was when I realized this actually doesn't work.
brett dasovic
I do believe, though, that a lot of the resentment comes from whether it's millennials or Gen Z and their parents be like, don't buy that coffee or you're never going to be able to own a home.
And you're like, the home is $500,000.
My $7 coffee isn't putting a dent in that, even if I do it every day for the next 20 years.
tim pool
If they put $7 in a Bitcoin every day for 20 years, they own a house.
brett dasovic
That's a different conversation entirely.
unidentified
So you're telling me, by the way, that you don't like, have you ever seen the plus-size park hoppers?
Plus-size park hoppers?
And have been suggested to me on Instagram every day!
brett dasovic
You have to look up plus-size park hoppers.
tim pool
No, because then it's going to start spam blasting.
unidentified
Yeah, it will.
They are a friend, sizes 2X to 5X, that show you inside Disney parks whether or not you can fit, not just in rides.
But in restaurants where, like, you know, you get concerned.
Like, are there arms on the chairs that I won't be able to fit in to eat?
brett dasovic
They're putting, like, the thing over them to see if they fit.
tim pool
You know what?
I gotta be honest.
At this point, anybody who, like...
I feel like most informed people who are paying attention and care about themselves...
Would not care if Trump intentionally collapsed everything as a purge.
Trump's just looking around, he's like, it's a bunch of lazy, degenerate, overweight filth.
He burns the economy.
He has no interest in America.
It's literally just, I want, like, he's going to create his Ubermensch just by destroying the economy.
That's it.
Destroy the economy, close the border, and then anybody who survives deserves to.
unidentified
But please, if it's the segment from the Plus Size Park Hoppers called If I Fits, I Sits that does it, I need to know.
Anybody from the, please just let me know, White Elves.
tim pool
To be fair, though, the morbidly obese can survive a long time without food.
unidentified
Absolutely.
tim pool
Water and vitamins.
brett dasovic
Your plan that you just proposed by Trump, that's like the ultimate meritocracy.
Collapse everything.
tim pool
But, you know, it would be funny if Trump's just, like, looking around at a Gen Z that won't work to save their lives, millennials that won't have babies to save the country, morbidly obese homeless people, and he's like, maybe we need some depression.
unidentified
All he needs to do is stroll through the streets of D.C. I mean, there was a guy on the Metro that, I forget his name, but he was a naked, morbidly obese guy that just people knew was showing up on the Metro for a long time in Washington, D.C., and they wouldn't remove him.
phil labonte
Why wouldn't they remove him?
unidentified
He's probably too big.
tim pool
Too big.
unidentified
And also, like, he was literally naked.
Like, he never wore clothes.
It was just a very large...
phil labonte
He just lived there?
unidentified
Yes.
brett dasovic
Too big to fail.
tim pool
Man, I don't know.
I'm just saying, like, I feel like if social order completely collapsed, then it's largely the Trump side of things that would make it through all right.
brett dasovic
Yeah, because they know that your groceries don't come from the grocery store.
tim pool
Indeed.
Or they have backyard chickens.
And that's it.
brett dasovic
I mean, not just that.
Like, there'll be plenty of them that do go shop at the grocery store that just still understand the importance of hard work and that nobody's coming to save you.
And even if they don't necessarily have the chickens in the backyard or are farming, they understand that it's pointless to argue about whether it's right or wrong for the world to be so cold, but just accept that it is and push forward pragmatically.
tim pool
It's funny because I've had this conversation probably like...
You guys probably have, but for 10 years now, I've talked to a bunch of people.
I did an interview with some survivalists.
I think it was like 10 years ago when I asked them, what do you think would happen in the event of like social collapse?
Which political faction would survive?
And these guys were actually kind of, they were like moderate, urban, liberal, but more like where we are, not far left, crazy, woke.
And they were like, oh, they're right in two seconds.
They were like, I mean, just come on.
These tend to live in rural areas already.
Tend to live far away from gas stations and stores.
Tend to stock up on supplies more than...
When you live in a city, you have no groceries in your fridge.
You walk downstairs.
Like, if you live in New York, you could literally live above a restaurant.
brett dasovic
More likely to know somebody who knows those skills in the book that they're going to have to go and find.
If not know it themselves.
tim pool
I'll tell you, one of the best places I ever lived.
It was brief, but above a subway.
Every morning, you wake up to the smell of fresh subway bread.
And then I walk downstairs, and I get my sandwich made for a couple bucks.
It was great.
brett dasovic
Make sure Jared doesn't sneak into your room at night.
unidentified
Gross.
Gross.
tim pool
That was never a thing.
He wasn't going to sneak in your room.
brett dasovic
He couldn't have fit anyway.
tim pool
You were too old.
brett dasovic
Well, he lost it.
You were living on your own.
unidentified
It gets worse.
brett dasovic
You were living on your own.
tim pool
It gets worse.
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All right, we've got Bad Mouth Bandit.
He says, I'm a millennial journeyman, tool and die maker.
Learn from a boomer.
It is one of the most overlooked trades that has died out and we need more.
I hope I have some younger people to pass the trade on.
brett dasovic
And beyond just the skill set itself being useful in the real world, one of the greatest markets you can be in right now if you're looking to create social media content is any type of niche skill makes for, like, you do huge numbers, not just on TikTok, but YouTubers and stuff who have,
like, cobblers.
Right?
Or anything.
Woodworking.
Stuff like that.
phil labonte
If you're an electrician and you do like really, really clean installs of wiring and stuff, people want to see it.
tim pool
All right.
Happy Garan says, did anything ever come of the idea of buying the Lennon statue for your chickens to poop on?
I think we briefly explored it and then basically abandoned the idea.
That's why I was like, guys, don't give us any money for this.
We don't know if we can do it.
But I do love the idea.
Maybe we should put together a give, send, go.
To raise the funds to buy it and then donate it to a gun tuber?
phil labonte
If there's an artist or sculptor in the Discord that could actually sculpt one for it.
tim pool
No, no, no, no, no.
A lot of work.
And to make a statue of Lenin?
Now, how about you make a statue of Trump spanking Lenin?
And then we put it up in city square somewhere.
We donate it to a city.
No, you know what we do?
We make Trump spanking Lenin.
And then we sneak into New York in the middle of the night and drop it off in front of the bull.
You know how they did that with the girl defying the bull?
That's still there.
phil labonte
I can't believe that.
It's so idiotic.
tim pool
Yep.
phil labonte
There are no men in New York that would just put their foot down and say, no, ladies, you can't put the girl in front of the bull.
brett dasovic
Is that like on Wall Street or something?
tim pool
Yeah.
brett dasovic
Okay, that's the one I'm thinking of.
tim pool
Like just north of Wall Street.
All right.
Commander says, hey, Tim, if you have a chance, I think you...
All with Phil should look into the song lyrics for the song Toxic by Starset as it is what you have been saying for months.
Indeed, all right, we'll take a look.
Shane H. Waters says, Oh no, the cheap knockoff Chinese items on Amazon are going to cost more.
Whatever will we do?
I guess we're just going to have to buy the legit products.
phil labonte
Yeah, there was a lot of talk about how the White House was responding to the idea of Amazon putting the information about the tariffs and stuff.
And I mean, personally, my first thought was I don't have a problem with Amazon making it clear when you're buying a Chinese knockoff.
I don't have a problem with that at all.
unidentified
I saw a car commercial the other day when they said our cars aren't affected by, I forget, I think it was Toyota.
Yeah, they're not affected by tariffs.
And at the very end they go, because they were made in the United States.
And it was like, why don't you just say American made?
tim pool
American made!
brett dasovic
It's a way better selling point.
unidentified
It was so weird how it was framed.
tim pool
Alright, AlphaTurkey says, Fallout show is the way to do it, not Last of Us.
Well, the funny thing about The Last of Us is, so I was looking at the reviews today.
There were a bunch of reviews from people who never played the game.
And there's like boomers and they're angry that Joel dies because they did not play the game.
They didn't know that the game basically ruined the whole story.
brett dasovic
Or have just never been online ever a day in their life.
Because if you have, you would have known that that happens, even if you haven't played the game.
tim pool
I mean, look, if you're 60 years old and you're watching, it was on HBO or whatever.
brett dasovic
Not Joel.
I need my Pedro Pascal.
tim pool
I'm terrible casting choices.
What are they thinking?
brett dasovic
Okay, here's the thing.
He is overcast and everything.
You are 110% correct, but the only reason that first season had any emotional resonance at all was because he did a fairly good job of being an average to above average actor.
He is just overexposed.
tim pool
What were they thinking with casting Bella Ramsey?
unidentified
Is that the Vem?
She goes by Vem.
tim pool
Does she?
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Ah.
brett dasovic
She does.
phil labonte
So annoying.
unidentified
You don't have pretty girls anymore.
tim pool
Was the first game super woke?
My understanding it was not.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
The second game was super woke though.
brett dasovic
It was the second.
There's a YouTuber named Greg Owen who does a great video dissecting the second game and how it could have been improved upon to make the show better.
He had a video a couple weeks ago.
I recommend everyone checking that out.
tim pool
I just...
I watched season one and...
I wanted to finish the season because it's a cultural item.
But the gay sex scenes that were in it, that weren't in the game, I thought was gratuitous and strange.
brett dasovic
And it just brought the whole thing to a stop, right?
It wasn't integrated in any sort of way that felt like they were writing it to actually move the story forward.
tim pool
It just edited gratuitous.
brett dasovic
Episode 3, and then it's just bam, and everything stops.
tim pool
And I just want to stress, that's not in the game.
They were like, we're going to deviate from the game's storyline to give you...
A whole episode just literally about gay sex.
It's not from the game.
brett dasovic
It's not just that episode.
It was also like episode 7 in the mall in season 1 also brought it to a grinding halt.
tim pool
Also not in the first game.
It was like the bonus after game or whatever where it's like, did you know that Ellie is gay?
brett dasovic
If you want to watch a fantastic show based on a video game, you watch the Twisted Metal series on Peacock.
Really?
Oh yeah.
tim pool
When did that come out?
brett dasovic
Two years ago.
The second season comes out like next month or something.
tim pool
Oh, I should watch that.
Really?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I never even checked that one out.
brett dasovic
I got into Fallout.
Because nobody watches Peacock.
unidentified
I really liked Fallout.
Anything with Walton Goggins right now, other than White Lotus, I meant.
brett dasovic
No, you go watch Justified.
tim pool
Fallout was good.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, I thought it was good.
unidentified
There you go.
brett dasovic
If you want Walton Goggins, it's Justified as Boyd Crowder.
unidentified
Or Baby Billy.
Righteous Gemstones.
tim pool
The funny thing is, there was an article from Collider that said that it's being review-bombed, but it was like, the review bomb isn't isolated to Rotten Tomatoes, and then I'm like, guys.
If every review aggregator is negative, it's probably because the show sucks.
But, you know, they were like, people are just targeting minorities and women.
You're basically saying a bunch of white guys went online with nothing better to do to just spam your show that it sucks.
Maybe it's just a bad show.
Alright, what have we here?
Emerito Berrio says, it's 10pm, do you know where your kids are?
For the last time, no!
brett dasovic
Have you ever watched those old commercials?
tim pool
What's the reference?
brett dasovic
Have you ever watched those old commercials?
It's 10pm, do you know where your children are?
tim pool
I watched them when I was a kid.
brett dasovic
Watching back now, it's crazy.
It's like your parents just forgot you were there.
They needed a TV commercial to remind you.
To remind them that you existed.
unidentified
And Home Alone.
tim pool
That's weird.
brett dasovic
And Home Alone.
unidentified
Especially during the holidays.
Don't leave your kid at home.
tim pool
Twice.
brett dasovic
I mean, the best part is they come home in the first one and they just kind of leave immediately and go into the kitchen.
tim pool
Wasn't the second one like he got on the wrong plane or something?
brett dasovic
Yeah, he got on the wrong plane.
That's another one.
Pre-9-11 air travel where he's running into where you get on board and he knocks all the tickets out of the lady's hand.
They're like, boredom!
Just let him go!
tim pool
Look, I've been saying I want to do this forever, but we just need a good producer because I'd love to make short films just mocking these movies because if you did Home Alone today, It would be so funny.
It would be like, you know, she gets on the plane, and then she goes, Kevin!
She freaks out.
The next scene is her being arrested with, like, child services coming and taking the kids away, all of them.
And she's crying, and they're like, disgusting.
That's just like, that's the end of the show, you know.
unidentified
Also, don't forget here, if 9-11 would have happened, you know, Kevin would have been...
brett dasovic
It would have been fine.
It's like Ryan Coogler is going to be bringing the X-Files back and I just laugh because it's like, I see an alien.
Click.
And then they just have the photo and he's like, oh.
Though you could write around that.
You could be like the alien has some type of like armor.
Every time.
That stops it from showing up on phones.
tim pool
Well, no, but like X-Files.
X-Files was a bunch of different, it's an anthology, right?
It was a bunch of different things.
So it's like, the FBI guy goes, we have a report of a strange beast seen in, you know, Northern Virginia.
brett dasovic
Don't go watch the Jersey Devil episode.
tim pool
And we're gonna go check it out.
And then it's, the guy is like, every time he tries to film the monster, and then his phone, he drops it in the lake.
No!
The proof!
Then the next episode is like, there may be a, someone was found exsanguinated with two bite marks in their neck.
We think it might be a vampire.
And it's like, was there any photos?
No.
And then it shows the scene of the vampire getting the guy and the vampire bites the phone?
Dang it!
My phone!
Every time!
brett dasovic
They solve it by somebody just realizing to upload to the cloud.
tim pool
Default uploads.
phil labonte
Stream it.
tim pool
Every single phenomenon also breaks your phone no matter what it is.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
It's an alien.
Ship comes.
Your phone vaporizes.
The mummy has the ability to levitate cell phones.
You know, vampires emit electromagnetic pulses, which disable cameras.
brett dasovic
I'm saying, like, a good writer could actually write around it.
The fact that, you know, the meme version of the show is like, I'm going to get it this time, and every time it gets knocked out of his hand.
tim pool
You could never have a witness.
unidentified
Nope.
tim pool
Or you can just do a short modern version where it's like, hey, Scully, we got a report.
Someone was found exsanguinated with two bite marks in the neck.
Mulder, are you saying it's a vampire?
Yeah, there's a video of it.
brett dasovic
Look.
Now with social media being what it was, people wouldn't believe it because they just think that it's faked somehow.
tim pool
To be fair, that's actually how you ride around it.
So they have the video and they're like...
None of this is admissible.
None of it proves anything because it's probably just fake.
And they have to go and see for themselves.
brett dasovic
Mulder's going to have to wear a body cam.
tim pool
Are they bringing Mulder back?
brett dasovic
I think that him and Scully will make appearances, but it'll likely be passing it off to new agents.
tim pool
What about the smoking man?
Is he still alive?
brett dasovic
I don't remember what happened.
Remember they brought it back in 2016, from 2016 to 2018.
phil labonte
He's still alive.
I'm going to buy a pack of Marvels.
brett dasovic
That actor is still alive, William B. Davis.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Well, you did say we'd be eating oatmeal.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Corn.
I ordered some of Cousin T's gluten-free pancakes, and it's corn flour.
phil labonte
Yeah, that means you're going to have grits.
tim pool
Sounds really good, actually.
phil labonte
Grits are great.
tim pool
Sounds very good.
I've been putting cousin T's syrup on...
Look, I'm the dad, so I'm in charge of breakfast, which means waffles.
It's all I can make.
I mean, I could probably make something else, but I don't want to.
So I figured it out, though.
So what I'm doing is four eggs, lots of eggs, and then I'm just mixing up the grains that I use.
Almond flour, maybe some rice, maybe some kasva.
Different.
So it's not always the same thing.
It's just the same shape.
brett dasovic
Not an omelet guy?
unidentified
No.
brett dasovic
No?
tim pool
No, because you need some kind of grain or fiber.
You know what I mean?
So you do some almond.
We used chickpea flour the other day.
Lower carbs, higher protein, higher fiber.
It's great.
And then we just schlopped some Cousin T's blueberry syrup all over it.
phil labonte
I got chickpea pasta.
It's great.
tim pool
It's good stuff.
unidentified
Great.
tim pool
Yeah, we actually deep-fried chicken and chickpea batter.
Super crispy and good.
phil labonte
Sounds good.
tim pool
Yeah, absolutely amazing.
All right.
What have we here?
OMG Puppy says, Tim, if you have chickens, you can make gunpowder.
Look up Niterbeds?
Is that what that is?
From Chicken Poop?
Indeed.
So when the world ends, chickens will be the most valuable thing ever.
Phil Dude Bro says, if you need a shirt, go to Goodwill.
There is so much we can reuse.
unidentified
Goodwill's so expensive now, though.
Yeah.
They've caught on to people, and there's resellers and stuff, and so...
brett dasovic
Ever since...
The phone in your pocket, now they look up the price of everything on eBay, and half those Goodwills sell on eBay as well.
tim pool
I remember when I was a teenager, I found a pair of $500 blue jeans at a thrift store.
What were they called?
Salvation Army.
brett dasovic
I found a copy of Turtles in Time at a Goodwill.
phil labonte
Nice.
tim pool
Interesting.
Let's see what we got here in the old Rumble Ranch.
Pecororod says, Dan P here.
Do you think we can get more America First congressmen in during the midterms and have them put into law many of Trump's executive orders?
Possible.
phil labonte
It all depends on the economy.
unidentified
Yeah.
I don't know if I like our chances in the midterms right now.
brett dasovic
Nope.
tim pool
Shadow says, must read, skateboard that says be gay, use the left lane.
So the idea was, you know, the left has that meme, be gay, do crime.
phil labonte
Yep.
tim pool
So I was like...
I'm going to make a skateboard that's just white with black bold letters saying, don't be gay, which is the inversion of that.
But obviously that's considered offensive.
And so my point is, how come they can make merch and sell it?
Nobody cares.
It says, be gay, do crime.
Even the conservatives are just like, whatever.
But if I were to make a skateboard that don't be gay, you'd know they'd lose their minds.
So then, you know, Andy was like, do both.
Make one that says, be gay.
And I was like, oh, give the people a choice.
brett dasovic
You can only sell them as a pack.
You have to buy both.
tim pool
That way everyone's...
We made it for everybody so now everybody will like us.
Yeah, it would be a black board with all white writing saying be gay.
And then I did a poll saying which board graphic should we make?
Don't be gay or be gay?
And obviously don't be gay wins.
But everyone agreed that we would sell out instantly.
If we met like a thousand of them, they just instantly would all sell out.
People would hang them on their walls.
brett dasovic
Yeah, they would.
tim pool
Maybe.
All right.
Pinochet says, they do understand that three out of five people would rather take out the establishment with violence as opposed to stand with the establishment in protest.
That's a question.
Well, I don't know what the far left would do.
They just hate Trump.
They hate the right.
All right.
Evan Freya says, what are y 'all's thoughts on the meme coins that were done by Trump for him and for Melania?
I largely don't care, so I don't talk about it.
I'm indifferent.
brett dasovic
I would have avoided it.
Optics-wise.
tim pool
I think I have some.
unidentified
I don't buy merch for anybody ever.
brett dasovic
I don't either.
tim pool
I have some stock.
I have like 13 shares of Truth Social because I thought it was funny.
And then what the left does, because they lie, is they were acting like I had thousands of shares or I spent like hundreds of grand on Doge.
I was like, I'm sorry, not on Doge, on Truth Social.
I was like, it's like a hundred bucks.
It was like, oh boy, I can have like a little souvenir.
I'll buy it.
And they were like, ha ha, look, you're losing your money.
And I was like, bro, I lost like $20.
I lost $100 the moment I bought them.
It's worth nothing.
I don't know.
brett dasovic
I bought like a dollar of Mudang coin when Mudang came out.
I'm down to like 43 cents.
phil labonte
I kind of wish that I got in early on Mudang coin.
Mudang coin.
tim pool
Spike says, get bullets, gold, and canned tuna.
Same as the sword, jewel, and mirror.
When I was talking about setting up a shed.
I was largely thinking of having, like, generally books for production.
But, yeah, making, like, a sewing machine.
Probably a wood splitter.
You know, like, maybe, like, a gear-powered hand crank something.
So you just, you know, it spins and it goes back and forth.
You put the wood in and then it goes and splits it.
Gear ratios, man and pulleys, all that stuff.
And then probably a kiln.
You know, what is it?
A crucible.
Actually, we have a crucible and a kiln.
Yeah.
And then, you know, make stuff.
unidentified
If things go under, I'm just going to be a criminal.
I have no viable skills other than stealing, so that's what I'm going to go with.
Trickery.
phil labonte
Criminal is way more dangerous than you think of that kind of situation.
tim pool
Yeah, because in a social collapse, con man isn't a thing.
So it's basically barbarian or, you know, civil.
unidentified
Just let me run with this idea and be done.
Quick.
phil labonte
Fair enough.
You're looking for the fast exit.
I see you.
brett dasovic
If anybody's looking for a good show about the end of the world that they might not remember, it was called Jeremiah.
I think it was Showtime back in 2004.
Very, very good.
I recommend watching that one.
Better than The Last of Us.
tim pool
What is Twisted Metal about?
brett dasovic
It's basically like the collapse of society.
He moves stuff from one place to another.
He's like a courier.
tim pool
Oh, it's not about people in a arena driving around?
brett dasovic
No, there's going to be scenes in that in season two, but it has a plot.
And that's what I loved about it.
The shows or the games that are going to be successful are the ones that have limited story structure so Hollywood can't F them up.
The reason Sonic is so successful is because despite all of the Sonic lore that the weirdos online know about, the people that are going to go to the Sonic movie are the people like me who are millennials who you'll bring your kids or you'll go with your friends to go see Sonic.
The Knuckles show is okay too.
tim pool
Yeah, it is funny how they tried to do realistic versions of things, thinking that would work, and then it doesn't.
brett dasovic
It doesn't.
It doesn't.
It doesn't work.
unidentified
When are they doing Echo the Dolphin?
brett dasovic
I asked that one.
I'd want that for the soundtrack alone.
It'd be like somehow have Echo the Dolphin and Free Willy show up together, but they'd have to make it all CGI.
That would suck.
unidentified
Episode 3, Echo just drowns.
Yeah.
tim pool
Isn't it kind of weird that they made that game?
They used to make games back in the day that made no sense.
You know, like ToeJam& Earl.
I bought it recently.
And then I found out it was part two, and I'm angry and I want to destroy it with a hammer.
Because, obviously, ToeJam& Earl 1 was a great game, where you're walking around, you get roller skates, and you go over the water.
Part two is like a weird platform.
It makes no sense.
I don't want to play that.
brett dasovic
Games were awesome back then.
tim pool
Yeah, I was...
So I went to...
There's a store in Winchester, Virginia, called Back to the Media.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
And it's great.
So I recommend them.
You guys check it out, because they got all the old stuff.
They got...
brett dasovic
It's so expensive.
I know!
It's rare.
The only stuff that I have is like, I don't play modern games, I play retro games, and it's so damn expensive if you want to play retro games.
tim pool
But I was there, and I was just looking at all of the different games, and then I'm just remembering, you know, these Gen Z and these Gen Alpha, they just don't know what they missed.
Because when we were growing up, you had, like, we had a rack with like 30 NES games in it.
And it was just like, what am I going to play now?
Wrecking Crew.
Remember Wrecking Crew?
It was like Mario with the sledgehammer and you got to break lockers or something and brick walls.
And now there's, like if you're Gen Z, you had one game, GTA 5, for 10 years.
It's the same game no matter what.
There's different online versions.
So it's no surprise that they all just played Minecraft.
And Minecraft, Fortnite, and GTA because no new games get made.
brett dasovic
I can go back and play Streets of Rage and Streets of Rage 2 and still love it as much now.
phil labonte
I just miss the days when a game was released and the game was actually done when it was released.
tim pool
Well, to be fair, that wasn't always true.
But what would happen is if the game got released and there was a bug or a glitch, it would become an exploit that players would learn about and use in the gameplay.
So like Mario 64, for instance, when you watch speedruns, when they do any percentage speedrun, They jump through walls.
They use the glitches as a skill component of the game.
In Smash Bros.
Melee, there was something called wave dashing, where, this is a fighting game for those that don't know, if you did an air dodge and hit the ground at the same time, you could do it so quickly you basically glide across the screen.
They went, oops, that was a mistake, so the next game that came out, they said, get rid of that.
We don't want that.
And it was a skill component of the game.
You didn't know how to do it.
So now games are all ruined with updates, because I remember, like, Destiny's a good example.
In Destiny, it's like a first-person shooter, and you have a vehicle called a Sparrow.
When the game first came out, you could ride, you could walk up to a wall, and then if you pulled out the Sparrow vehicle, like, it's a future, so it just, like, forms in front of you, you could go through the wall and explore, you know, zones you're not supposed to be in.
And then they went, oops, can't do that, you're banned, and we're patching this so you can never do it again.
And that's like, well, that was fun for a second.
phil labonte
Banning people over that is completely and totally...
tim pool
Bro, World of Warcraft, the worst thing they ever did in World of Warcraft was make flying.
Big mistake.
And back in the OG days, 20 years ago now, you could glitch through walls and jump up and climb around and explore this whole world they made, and they'd ban you if you went into the wrong zones, and then they eventually updated the game so you can't do it anymore.
Whack.
Gen Z doesn't know what they've lost.
brett dasovic
I still go play it.
I play my N64 all the time.
tim pool
Isn't it amazing how, like, A Link to the Past is one of the best games ever made?
And they just don't...
Here's something I was thinking about.
A Link to the Past for SNES.
Super Mario World for SNES.
Those are great games with great formats.
They don't make games like that anymore.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
Obviously, they've tried remaking Mario.
Like, they've made platform Mario versions again because they realized people like it and they did Mario Maker.
Literally take the same graphics, the same 16-bit in the music, and make a new version and sell it.
Just because it's rudimentary technology doesn't mean the game isn't fun.
Like, chess is a thousand-year-old.
Chess is like 50,000-year-old technology.
It's little carved blocks.
And the game is, what, a thousand years old.
So, a game like A Link to the Past, this top-down view, and he's running around, and you swing your sword, and you hold it, and he spins.
Every time they make a game now, it's got to be this updated third-person 3D open-world version.
brett dasovic
Old Castlevania.
unidentified
Look at the new stupid Mario Kart, where it's like, why do I need an open-world in Mario Kart?
tim pool
They did that?
unidentified
Yes.
The new $80 switch to Mario Kart is open-world.
So you can just stop racing and go.
Get lost?
Yeah, they're out of ideas.
tim pool
Actually, that sounds pretty fun.
You can just go for a drive through the mountains?
unidentified
Yeah, but you can do it once and you're like, eh.
tim pool
I kind of want to do that.
Can you even get the Switch 2 right now?
unidentified
No, I don't think so.
It's like $500 and then the games are $80 now.
tim pool
So if they took the exact same graphics and style of like A Link to the Past because the graphics were all that they needed to be.
They don't need to be any more than that for that game.
It's like a board game.
It's like a digital board game.
They could just be like here's the next adventure of Link and Hyrule and there's new dungeons and it's a new map with new quests.
I would buy every one of those.
Those are the games I would play.
I have no problem playing GTA or, you know, I like playing Trials.
Super good at, you know, Trials, Fusion, and Rising.
Those games are fun.
Make new levels.
Keep the same gameplay.
I'm totally fine with it.
But they stopped making games like Nintendo games, like the OG games, like Genesis.
They didn't need to stop those game formats.
That's what's weird.
unidentified
I was the first kid on my block to have a Super Nintendo back in the day.
When it first came out, we couldn't afford a Nintendo, a regular NES, because I'm so old.
And we grew up in Baltimore, and they said, my parents told me.
When SNES comes out or whenever the next best thing comes out, we'll get it for you.
And I remember going to Macy's and getting it.
tim pool
I remember when my dad rented SNES from Blockbuster.
brett dasovic
Yeah, we rented a 64 before I ended up getting one.
unidentified
I was basically that kid in that video, Nintendo 64. Didn't you have to put down like 50 bucks or something?
I don't know.
brett dasovic
It was very little.
We had like a local, it wasn't a chain, but like a local rental store where you could rent an N64.
Those were a lot of core memories, like renting the whole console for the weekend.
tim pool
And Mario...
brett dasovic
I'm sorry, regular...
tim pool
Sega Genesis, not Nintendo 64. So, it's also kind of crazy that Mario 3, epic game.
Always gonna be good.
Super Mario World, amazing.
Mario 64, amazing.
And after that, what do we got?
Nothing.
brett dasovic
Like, on that system?
tim pool
No, I just mean in terms of really great games that were surprisingly revolutionary and fantastic.
Like, what's the Mario where you've got the water pack?
It's like...
unidentified
Super Mario Sunshine.
tim pool
Sure, it's whatever, I guess.
unidentified
Super Mario Sunshine.
The best thing to come out of that was, what's the song?
Gusty Gulch or something like that, that a lot of people use for weddings.
phil labonte
Oh.
tim pool
Really?
unidentified
Yeah.
Well, how about that?
When I'm not looking at plus-size park hoppers, I'm looking at nerd weddings.
tim pool
TheRealHydra says, I buy a game and I find out it was part two.
Imagine that I was going to break it because I was so wrong.
I would say that if your cognitive capabilities are such limited that you don't understand what sarcasm is or hyperbole, then you, sir, need assistance in watching a show such as this.
Or maybe it's not the kind of show for you.
unidentified
Or part two is, you know, part one for you and then you get the prequel.
tim pool
It's a different game.
Have you played ToeJam& Earl?
unidentified
It's been a long time.
tim pool
You played that one?
You guys remember it?
brett dasovic
I remember it, but I didn't play it.
tim pool
Yeah, you're like walking around, and you get an elevator, goes to the next level, and then you get items, and it's just silly.
It's fun.
You know what the craziest thing about these games?
You can't play them on HD.
brett dasovic
Yeah.
phil labonte
Oh, really?
tim pool
Because the pixels are so big, you can't see anything.
It's so weird.
brett dasovic
I play, like, anytime I play my Sega or my N64, I have a smaller, old TV to play it on.
tim pool
My friends, we're going to go to that members only call in show.
So smash the like button, share the show with everyone, you know, word of mouth.
That's why that's what makes shows big, makes them big because everybody's like, dude, you got to watch.
You can follow me on X and Instagram at Tim cast.
That uncensored show will be at rumble.com slash Tim cast.
I R L. You got to be a rumble premium member.
Use promo code Tim one zero to watch.
Not so family friendly, but always fun and funny.
Uh, so it should be fun.
Tim, you want to shout anything out?
unidentified
Yeah, go follow me at Tim Runs His Mouth.
That's kind of it.
I mean, you guys can go, oh, you know what?
I should do this.
I'm a CEO of a company.
Go get the Veebs app on your phones.
The Veebs app.
Make sure that you don't give money to companies that hate you.
You can go scan UPC codes when you go shopping, and it shows you just how conservative or liberal products are.
It's kind of fun.
tim pool
Interesting.
unidentified
Yeah.
brett dasovic
Guys, if you want to follow me, I'm on Instagram and on Twix, at Brett Dastavik on both of those platforms.
But what you should do is watch Pop Culture Crisis.
We are live Monday through Friday, 3 p.m. Eastern Standard Time on YouTube.
Check us out there.
It's a lot of fun.
phil labonte
I am PhilThatRemains on Twix.
I'm PhilThatRemainsOfficial on Instagram.
The band is All That Remains.
Our new record dropped on January 31st.
It's called Anti-Fragile.
You can check it out on YouTube, Apple Music, Spotify, Pandora, Deezer, you know, the internet.
And don't forget the left lanes for crime.
tim pool
We will see you all over at rumble.com slash timcastirl in about 30 seconds.
Thanks for hanging out.
Oh boy, it's the end of the world.
Check out this clip from Mark Zuckerberg talking about the world is ending.
mark zuckerberg
Because we're not really an enterprise software company.
We're primarily building it for ourselves.
So again, we go kind of like for the specific goal.
We're not trying to build a general developer tool.
We're trying to build a coding agent and an AI research agent that basically advances Lama research specifically.
And it's like just fully kind of plugged into our tool chain.
And I think is going to end up being an important part of how this stuff gets done.
I would guess that sometime in the next 12 to 18 months, we'll reach the point where most of the code that's going towards these efforts is written by AI.
And I don't mean like autocomplete.
I mean, right today you have like...
You have kind of, you know, good autocomplete, like you start writing something and it can complete the kind of section of code.
I'm talking more like you give it a goal, it can run tests, right?
It can kind of improve things.
It can find issues.
It writes higher quality code than like the average very good person on the team already.
tim pool
That's it, my friends.
Zuckerberg says in about a year or a little bit longer, all the code they're using is going to be written by AI.
We are going to be living in a world where...
I did this the other day.
I opened up ChatGPT and I said, program a video game where you have a character with a jetpack.
You have a fuel meter.
When you jump, he hovers.
You collect six keys.
Once you collect all the keys in each level, you can then shoot a gun, which kills the bad guys.
Done.
Took 30 seconds to make the game.
It's not animated, though.
So then what I did was I said, create a sprite map for the character.
For the main character, it generated the sprite map and then told me, save these in the same folder, hit run, and you will have that character as the sprite.
Easiest game I've ever made.
phil labonte
What about when, like, now that AI is going to start doing all of the programming, right, all the coding, what happens when you've got a whole generation of people and no one knows how to code because they've all been,
they've all allowed AI to do it?
And then something happens where the AI goes astray or whatever.
brett dasovic
Language is lost.
unidentified
What happens when I can't tell an unemployed journalist learn to code because AI is doing it?
phil labonte
It's a shame.
brett dasovic
You say learn AI.
phil labonte
It's a tragedy.
brett dasovic
I like that now with Zuckerberg and his purported glow-up, he has to put the glasses on when he wants to be serious.
phil labonte
Oh, that's a serious face?
brett dasovic
He's got to put the glasses on.
If he's going to talk tech, he's got to put the glasses on.
Kind of like Rick Vaughn in Major League to throw the fastball.
He has to have the big thick glasses on.
unidentified
He's gone through some hair changes too, right?
tim pool
Has he always had that?
brett dasovic
He's straightening it.
phil labonte
Can you imagine that?
That'd be hilarious if he straightened all his hair, just relax, constantly relaxer and stuff.
I'm not aware of any hairstyle changes.
unidentified
I don't know.
I just think sometimes he looks more like Data and sometimes he doesn't.
Could you imagine working for Facebook right now?
You're a coder for Facebook and you're like, fuck.
brett dasovic
So I'm not going to have a job in a year.
unidentified
I've got a year.
Yeah, I've got a year.
brett dasovic
And then you're going to be in the exit interview and they're going to be like, well, why weren't you planning ahead?
tim pool
So I just told it, code an HTML5 game where you run and jump to...
Oh, it's running.
I can't even read it anymore.
phil labonte
It's done already.
tim pool
I should probably just show this.
phil labonte
It's available right now.
tim pool
Code an HTML5 game where you run and jump to collect keys of six different colors, and once you do, you can fly with a jetpack.
A fuel meter will slowly go down as you hover.
Every time you go off-screen to the right, the level advances one and displays it on the top right, and if you go left, it decreases by one and brings you to the previous level.
Arrow keys to move, Z and X to jump and attack.
It's writing, it's crazy.
The question is, will it work?
unidentified
I bet it will.
tim pool
I don't know.
unidentified
I'm betting on AI here.
tim pool
Alright, I need to load the HTML now.
What is this?
Refine and debug on the spot.
I don't care.
Alright.
What do we got here?
It says the HTML5 game is now coded.
Okay.
How do I open it?
It just says they did it.
It wants me to copy the code.
Let's see.
It wants me to actually paste it into a file and make the...
Are you kidding me, bro?
Just generate the HTML file for me.
Jeez.
That's so hard.
brett dasovic
Working?
tim pool
It's just analyzing.
unidentified
This is how the reboot of War Games starts.
Yeah.
tim pool
Let's see if it works.
I suppose I can just copy the code and paste it into an HTML file.
brett dasovic
Well, that's what it asked you to do.
tim pool
I know, but that's stupid.
brett dasovic
You're arguing with your tech overlords now?
unidentified
code.
tim pool
Nope, it just gave it to me.
It says, download now.
unidentified
A heck of a New York Post headline.
tim pool
Russia threatens NATO with revenge nuclear strikes.
We don't care about that!
Make my game, damn it!
brett dasovic
What could be more indicative of the times we live in?
phil labonte
Yeah.
brett dasovic
Never mind the nukes.
Play the game.
tim pool
Hey, look at this.
unidentified
Doobie doobie doobie.
Doobie doobie.
He's got a little jetpack.
tim pool
He's flying like crazy.
Let's go to the right.
phil labonte
Level one.
tim pool
That's it.
That's the whole game.
But, yo, I'm using the arrow keys to move him around.
Get the keys and...
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
Whoa, I'm going to have to tell him to turn that hover down.
He's gone.
Let's see how long he goes for if fuel hits zero.
Will the fuel regenerate when he lands on the ground?
Will he ever land on the ground?
brett dasovic
He may not land on the ground.
tim pool
Did he cease to exist because he went too high?
brett dasovic
He's just gone.
He ran into one of those Bezos blue origin ships.
unidentified
I was going to say he was going to spend more time in space than Katy Perry.
tim pool
I'm holding down right, so he still exists.
He's just...
Got a long way to fall.
Levels are slowly going up.
So there you go!
phil labonte
Oh, he's back!
tim pool
There you go.
Look at this.
What colors did it pick?
unidentified
Let's see.
Roy G. Biff, right?
tim pool
Did it pick the colors of the Infinity Stones?
It actually did.
Is that because there's no other colors?
I guess they could do pink.
unidentified
There you go.
tim pool
How fun is that?
Anyway, I guess Rush is going to nuke us, but who cares about that?
brett dasovic
Yeah, we've got games to...
Have us in the meantime.
phil labonte
Games to get us through the end of the world.
brett dasovic
You're just playing your little flash game as the nuke is about to hit.
tim pool
No fall damage.
Frame rate is crap.
unidentified
Hey!
Hey!
tim pool
You know?
That's a fun game.
I suppose I could make like an actual game.
unidentified
You know?
tim pool
Here.
Program Pong.
Make Pong.
That's easy, right?
phil labonte
Make Pong.
tim pool
Make Pong.
It's going to be like, no, that's copyrighted.
brett dasovic
You can't do that.
phil labonte
Son of a bitch.
tim pool
Oh, you know what?
What's that game they got at...
What's the game you play at Cracker Barrel?
unidentified
Oh, with all the golf tees.
tim pool
Barrel Peg.
There you go.
Code the Barrel Peg Game in HTML5.
There you go.
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