April 18, 2025 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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| Today in Tallahassee, Florida, just before noon, a gunman opened fire, killing two and injuring six at Florida State University. | ||
| And that has led us to the question, is this the Mangione effect? | ||
| Is the impulse to violence something that is becoming predominant on the left? | ||
| Does this have anything to do with politics at all, or is this just a young man that has decided that his life was not worth living? | ||
| So we will discuss that today. | ||
| There was a post on X by Nicholas Decker, and I'm not going to say the name of the post, but this is also related to the questions that we're asking. | ||
| And his questions are about when is it time to take the law into your own hands? | ||
| And I guess that's... | ||
| Probably the best way to say it is early in the show. | ||
| And so we'll talk about that. | ||
| From the Postmillennial, we have some information about Carmelo Anthony's press conference, I guess. | ||
| There was some drama because the father of Austin Metcalf showed up to the press conference. | ||
| And for some reason, Carmelo Anthony's parents didn't like that. | ||
| So we'll discuss that. | ||
| RFK Jr. was in D.C. today, and he was talking about autism and its effects on young people, and there are people in the media that have a problem with the way that he characterized the issue, because it's a real issue that is extremely important, | ||
| so we'll discuss that. | ||
| Donald Trump was talking with Israel about... | ||
| Strikes on Iran and he's opted to continue negotiations with Iran as opposed to doing what seems like Bibi Netanyahu wanted, which is to actually strike. | ||
| So more of the Trump is actually the guy that wants peace, no matter what people seem to think. | ||
| The U.S. is also the New York Times says the U.S. is withdrawing hundreds of troops from Syria, which begs the question. | ||
| Why are there hundreds of troops in Syria? | ||
| We're not at war with Syria. | ||
| We know that Syria has got a massive or had a massive civil war. | ||
| Now that there is a new government, I assume it's probably not friendly to the United States government, so that's probably why they're pulling them out, but we'll talk about that. | ||
| And then if we get to it, SpaceX and a few of its partners emerge as frontrunners to build part of Trump's Golden Dome project. | ||
| Talking about missiles. | ||
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| We're here to talk about that and so much more. | ||
| Maggie Modi, right? | ||
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Yes, I go by Maggie Moda on X and Undoctrination on YouTube, but I work for the Foundation for Economic Education. | |
| Opinions are my own. | ||
| I am super happy to be here. | ||
| Thank you guys. | ||
| Thank you very much for coming. | ||
| Lisa, how are you? | ||
| Hi, thanks for having me. | ||
| I'm here strictly to annoy you. | ||
| Well... That's strictly what you do. | ||
| But if you guys don't know who I am, I book for Timcast, The Culture War, and I'm just here to have fun, hang out. | ||
| Sick. And we also have Libby Emmons from the Postmillennial. | ||
| I'm here. | ||
| I'm Libby Emmons from the Postmillennial. | ||
| I'm glad to be here with you guys. | ||
| All right. | ||
| So, let's get into it. | ||
| Fox News reports. | ||
| Florida State University shooting suspect. | ||
| Who is Phoenix Ichner? | ||
| The suspect who opened fire at Florida State University, FSU in Tallahassee, Florida, on Thursday, killing two and injuring six others, was identified by law enforcement officials as the 20-year-old son of a sheriff's deputy. | ||
| Leon County Sheriff Walter McNeil identified Phoenix Ickner as the shooter, saying, It's not a surprise to us that he had access to weapons. | ||
| I mean, shouldn't a sheriff's deputy know how to secure their weapons? | ||
| They continue, his mother, Jessica Ichner, is a sheriff's deputy with the Leon County Sheriff's Office. | ||
| She's been with the office for over 18 years, and McNeil said she has done a tremendous job in her position. | ||
| During the course of her career, authorities said she served as a school resource officer. | ||
| McNeil said Phoenix Ichner used his mother's handgun in the shooting at FSU. | ||
| So, apparently, this young man, or he's been... | ||
| There's questions surrounding whether or not this is a politically motivated or whether there was any politics involved in this or whether this was just another young kid that was somehow struggling with modern society, which seems to be almost the norm nowadays. | ||
| So what do you guys think? | ||
| Do you guys believe that this has got something broader than just a kid that has decided that he's had enough of the day-to-day living in the U.S.? | ||
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Yeah, I think everyone automatically jumped on this idea that he's an anti-Trump protester, that he was part of this socialist student union club. | |
| I think the quote they're pulling from this article... | ||
| Kind of proves that he's not part of them. | ||
| If you read the line before it, it said, once the protesters reached the integration statue, Florida State University Police Department officers stood on guard and groups of onlookers began to form. | ||
| And then they bring in his quote, these people are usually pretty entertaining, usually not for good reasons. | ||
| I think it's a little too late. | ||
| He's already going to be inaugurated on January 20th. | ||
| And there's not... | ||
| And there's not really much you can do unless you outright revolt, and I don't think anyone wants that. | ||
| It seems to me that he's not an anti-Trumper. | ||
| It doesn't really seem like he has an opinion on him, really. | ||
| Libby, what do you got? | ||
| I am not sure either. | ||
| I don't know that we have necessarily a political motivation at this point. | ||
| We have seen a lot of politically motivated violence of late. | ||
| There was Luigi Mangione, obviously. | ||
| But even since then, there's been the Tesla violence. | ||
| There was this kid in Wisconsin who killed his parents as part of a plot to overthrow Trump and the government and then secretly head off to Ukraine. | ||
| And this is just some of it, you know? | ||
| Was he actually in touch with anybody? | ||
| According to the FBI documents, it looks like he was. | ||
| There was someone he was in touch with who had a Ukrainian phone number, and he was talking to this person over text about what's going to happen when he moves to Ukraine and how that's going to go down. | ||
| That's a similar situation to the attempted assassination attempt on Donald Trump earlier last year. | ||
| Right, Ryan Ruth in September at the golf course. | ||
| Yeah. He was in contact. | ||
| He also was in contact with Ukraine. | ||
| But in Ruth's case, that was a situation. | ||
| Where he had been doing fundraising and advocacy for Ukraine for a while at that point and I think had even been there. | ||
| We also saw recently a poll that came out that was... | ||
| Like, what was it, 55% of Americans think that it's reasonable to assassinate Donald Trump? | ||
| Americans? Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was. | ||
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55%? | |
| Do I have this totally wrong? | ||
| I don't think it was Americans. | ||
| I think it was Democrats. | ||
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That's unbelievable. | |
| Was it Democrats? | ||
| I think so, yeah. | ||
| I don't think Donald Trump's, like, Donald Trump's poll number, or his likability has gone down a little bit. | ||
| 55% of left-leaning Americans say it's somewhat justified to kill Trump. | ||
| Yeah. Yeah. | ||
| And so what we have is a situation where for years we've had people on the left saying words are violence, which makes them think that self-defense is reasonable. | ||
| And if words are violence, then violence is violence and they can just, you know, spout off and hurt people because of that. | ||
| So you think that the narrative being spun or the phrase like phrases like that? | ||
| I just think it's part of the overall ethos, right? | ||
| If words are violence, then if you insult me, self-defense, I can, you know, take out. | ||
| I forget who the tweet... | ||
| So I saw a tweet today, and I forget who it was that actually said it, and I apologize, but it started off with the idea that on the left, they believe that violence can be used like a volume knob. | ||
| You can turn it up, and you can turn it down, so you can go from just, you know... | ||
| Getting into fistfights and brawls, up to actually firebombing Tesla dealerships, to actually murdering people. | ||
| Whereas with the right, they tend to look at violence as either totally off-limits or that's all you're doing. | ||
| It's a light switch. | ||
| Do you guys have a sense that you see those kind of... | ||
| Do you feel like people have that kind of understanding? | ||
| I think that just the left is increasingly more violent than the right, even though they try to... | ||
| Play that it's the other way around. | ||
| But even more than that, I think that there's a big problem lately with teens and violence. | ||
| Like, across America, teen violence in general is skyrocketing. | ||
| And nobody really wants to talk about it. | ||
| I'm talking from, like, you know, 12, 13, 14 up. | ||
| Are you talking about fighting? | ||
| No, murders, murders, violence in general. | ||
| Like, you look at this other kid that was... | ||
| Doing the Trump thing, this school shooter. | ||
| It's just over and over again we see that it's almost like they have no morality. | ||
| There was a clip of somebody filming this mass shooting and they filmed the body. | ||
| Do you have no sanctity for life? | ||
| It's almost like that's even more of a problem. | ||
| I saw the video that you're talking about. | ||
| I didn't have a chance to listen to it. | ||
| Was there any audio? | ||
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No, she was just... | |
| Taking a sip of her Starbucks, walking casually. | ||
| Was she actually taking a sip? | ||
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Yes. The Starbucks cup was in the shot. | |
| Yes, I saw the Starbucks cup. | ||
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And she walks past this woman who is either dying or is very injured. | |
| And she just walks past. | ||
| And what's interesting is that she filmed it, right? | ||
| Most of this generation is being exposed to brutal violence. | ||
| Daily online. | ||
| And, you know, not all of this violence that's been happening, the school shootings, have been political. | ||
| Some of it has come through the true crime community. | ||
| And what's really interesting about that community is that they really venerate these school shooters and really like sanctify them. | ||
| So did Audrey Hale. | ||
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It's really creepy. | |
| Audrey was Tennessee. | ||
| The Covenant school shooting killed three children and three staff members at a school. | ||
| And when they finally released all of these, you know, notebooks that she had in it, she was really venerating the Columbine shooters. | ||
| She really thought that they were just the bees knees. | ||
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So women, apparently women and men are coming to this through two different paths. | |
| So girls are coming to it through, you know, like eating disorder communities. | ||
| Really? Yeah. | ||
| And then men or young boys are coming to these communities through gore. | ||
| See now, so like I'm of the generation... | ||
| You're talking about white kids, but... | ||
| Black kids are coming through drill rap and Instagram beef. | ||
| To your point about coming to it through gore, I'm of the generation when Rotten.com was still a thing. | ||
| You could go to LiveLeak and there were graphic things. | ||
| I've seen all the... | ||
| As a young guy, not as a teenager. | ||
| Because I was a teenager in the early 90s. | ||
| But when Rotten.com was a thing in the early aughts and stuff, I've seen all the chainsaws and the Mexican cartel violence and stuff like that. | ||
| I don't get the sense that my generation had more violence because of that stuff. | ||
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No, but you might have been old enough to be able to process that and recognize it as wrong. | |
| But think about these kids that are getting... | ||
| You know, computers at 10 or 11, and that's what they're seeing. | ||
| And they're exposing themselves to that constantly on a day in and day out. | ||
| But my point is, like, you can't... | ||
| That's... The Internet's way less of the Wild West than it was back 20 years ago. | ||
| But it was harder to access, too. | ||
| My point is, nowadays, it's my understanding or my impression that the internet is actually more sanitized than it used to be. | ||
| There's a lot of murders that have happened that you can't actually find the original videos of anymore. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, you mentioned the gore thing. | ||
| Yeah. And in the FBI documents with the Wisconsin teen, this guy Nikolai Kassop, a classmate told the FBI that Kassop would send gore edit videos that included flashing gory and war images put to Russian music via Snapchat. | ||
| And then he said, you know, that he intended to kill his parents, but he was involved in this gore stuff. | ||
| But I think that certainly... | ||
| People can be conditioned to accept measures of violence. | ||
| And that can happen through, you know, a number of different ways. | ||
| Like, this is something that we've seen. | ||
| In war, soldiers will be intentionally conditioned to accept violence and extreme horror and things like that. | ||
| That's definitely true. | ||
| But for decades and decades now, we've been told that it's either heavy metal music that's causing our kids to go nuts, or it's rap music, or it's all of these different things. | ||
| And I think that there's something different going on than just this experience. | ||
| I mean, listen, it's definitely... | ||
| And there's a lack of respect for life. | ||
| There's a lack of belief in an everlasting soul. | ||
| There's a lack of a belief that you have an innate part of yourself that cannot be, that you can protect, that can't be broken. | ||
| You know, I think that kind of concept is missing and whether it's the decline of religion or the decline of any care for our neighbors. | ||
| And then just to what you were saying about the cell phones, I think people use cell phones as a shield and they think they're protected from it. | ||
| Like I remember riding the subway when I lived in New York. | ||
| I think it's absent parenting. | ||
| Yeah, but I think it's a bigger concept. | ||
| Like, a lot of these kids are killing each other over, like, disses or, like, you know, being made fun of or being insulted or those type of things. | ||
| Honor culture kind of thing? | ||
| It's not. | ||
| It's not honor culture. | ||
| That's the kind of thing that you're describing. | ||
| That's why I'm asking. | ||
| I'm asking you a question. | ||
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You don't need to roll your eyes. | |
| Honor culture makes it seem like there's something noble about it. | ||
| There's something noble about this. | ||
| These people don't earn respect. | ||
| What happens is they don't have any self-esteem. | ||
| They don't have any self-respect. | ||
| And they don't have anybody to guide them. | ||
| And so instead of doing something productive with their lives, they take this short way to get this instant gratification. | ||
| They put it on Instagram for clicks. | ||
| And that's why I don't think it's about... | ||
| Like, drill the music. | ||
| It's just that they diss them in the music. | ||
| It's about the attention and the need to fill a void and feel special. | ||
| Feel connected to something because they're not connected to their parents. | ||
| They're not connected to their neighborhoods. | ||
| They're not connected to their school. | ||
| They're totally empty, miserable vessels. | ||
| And so they're filling it with whatever attention they can and they ratchet it up. | ||
| Like, so it would be street fighting or it would be carjacking and now it's shooting people who... | ||
| Dish you on a song on Instagram. | ||
| Like, it is a literal emptiness that they're filling because they have no self-esteem. | ||
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Nihilism, ultimately, I mean, it's very empty, but ultimately people just don't end up valuing human life. | |
| And Taylor Lorenz was recently on Hannity, I think it was, saying that she doesn't believe in souls. | ||
| I mean, it's no wonder that she's endorsing Luigi Mangione. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, well, I mean, so Taylor Lorenz not, you know, not believing in souls is typical of either an agnostic or an atheist. | ||
| And Taylor Lorenz is, you know, I mean, fine, she can believe what she wants, but everyone knows she's kind of a moron anyway. | ||
| So I don't know that I'm convinced that it is either music. | ||
| And the reason I say that is because... | ||
| Yeah, I don't think it is either. | ||
| Because like the things that you're describing in drill rap where they'll diss each other on Instagram and stuff. | ||
| Look, you saw that. | ||
| That's the byproduct of what's happening. | ||
| You saw that stuff in the early 90s. | ||
| No, it's not like this. | ||
| This is not the same. | ||
| I swear to God. | ||
| So how is it not the same when you had, you know, you had Dr. Dre and Eazy-E and all those guys. | ||
| But it wasn't cool for 12-year-olds to go. | ||
| To try to kill their, quote, ops just because they got deaths on a song. | ||
| It is slaughtered. | ||
| I'm talking every other week. | ||
| We have a 13-year-old dying, a 16-year-old dying, a 14-year-old dying in Philly. | ||
| Like, every week. | ||
| And no one is talking about it. | ||
| And then it's spreading. | ||
| Wasn't the murder rate really high in Southern California back in the 90s? | ||
| During the COVID epidemic in 2022. | ||
| They got stimulus checks and they admitted in tons of these videos, like Brandon Buckingham and all these other people did, like, videos about what it was like in that culture. | ||
| And they, with their stimulus checks, they bought guns. | ||
| They literally bought guns. | ||
| And the killings ratcheted up by, like, 50 percent. | ||
| And it's still happening. | ||
| Even I'm going to give Larry Krasner credit here is that he's really, like, buckling down. | ||
| And we just arrested, like, I think it was, like, nine kids and they were involved in at least 16 violent homicides. | ||
| One kid had five bodies that just got shot. | ||
| I'm talking like these are kids slaughtering each other. | ||
| And it's spreading. | ||
| It's kind of like this Carmelo Anthony kid. | ||
| He felt like he got dissed and the answer was to kill somebody. | ||
| It is definitely spreading. | ||
| It's not just in the inner city. | ||
| And it's spreading from like Instagram and the music. | ||
| But it's not the music that's driving it. | ||
| It's the culture that's driving it. | ||
| Music is like a side product of it. | ||
| Like an externality. | ||
| It's bad, though. | ||
| And nobody even knows. | ||
| Like, I talk to people all the time, like, how many teenagers died in the last three months in Philly? | ||
| They have no idea. | ||
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It's the underlying beliefs about human life. | |
| Right. And those beliefs come with those communities or certain parts of those communities now. | ||
| It's not that, like, the entire community believes that. | ||
| It's that this is how radicalization works all over the Internet. | ||
| You have a funnel, you know, that gets more and more extreme towards the bottom. | ||
| Okay. Well, the reason I ask, so you're talking about predominantly black kids. | ||
| Well, in that situation, yeah. | ||
| But isn't the black community one of the most religious communities? | ||
| They're turning Muslim, especially in the inner cities. | ||
| Are Muslim populations growing exponentially? | ||
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Through converts? | |
| Big time. | ||
| We have one of the biggest black convert to Muslim population in all of America that they had a couple years ago. | ||
| I think it was five years ago or something. | ||
| They had kids from Philly singing things about killing infidels and stuff that was a teen thing. | ||
| And they're like, sorry we put it up. | ||
| It was an accident. | ||
| We didn't mean to. | ||
| Sorry we put it up. | ||
| Not sorry we were doing it. | ||
| Sorry we put it up. | ||
| They were like, that was an oversight. | ||
| No, it's an oversight that you got caught. | ||
| And they're over there literally singing about killing people and beheading infidels. | ||
| I'm not kidding. | ||
| It is, yeah, they're religious in that way, but these kids, they, like, quote, jump off the porch and there's no parent structure. | ||
| And some of the moms are involved. | ||
| There was this one mom, she's on Instagram, bopping her head. | ||
| Like, after the kid who shot her son got shot, she was, like, all bragging. | ||
| She's, like, I'm going to smoke a dupe. | ||
| I'm going to do a shot, like, to, like, praise his death. | ||
| Like, the parents, because they're so young and they're also no structure in their life, like, they're in on it. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| And it's spreading. | ||
| But it is spreading. | ||
| Libby, what do you know of this murderous culture that Lisa's describing? | ||
| You have to look into it. | ||
| I don't know much about the murderous culture that Lisa's describing. | ||
| Watch American Confidential. | ||
| I got out of cities a couple of years ago. | ||
| Yeah, you were smart. | ||
| I listened to Tim Pool. | ||
| I know. | ||
| And Jack and everybody. | ||
| But yeah. | ||
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I can't. | |
| Yeah, no, it's weird. | ||
| But I lived in a very Muslim neighborhood in Brooklyn, in Bay Ridge, and there were protests almost every weekend right on my block against Israel and, you know, pro- Palestinian and all that stuff. | ||
| And that was way before October 2023. | ||
| And there was a very large Muslim population there. | ||
| In fact, that is where Linda Sarsour is from, you know, who led the Women's March until she was kicked out for being anti-Semitic. | ||
| And it's also where the bin Laden family used to hang out before 9-11. | ||
| So it's a long-standing Islamic neighborhood. | ||
| But I haven't looked too much into... | ||
| The contemporary stuff. | ||
| One of my high school classmates, though, did convert to Islam, which I discovered at a class reunion years later. | ||
| They have this thing where you'll see them come out of prison and whoever has the darkest mark on their head shows their most loyalty to Islam. | ||
| It's a thing. | ||
| Wow. On that note, so... | ||
| We're going to go to something that we were talking about, you know, whether or not this is the Mangione effect. | ||
| And so we're going to jump to this story from Fox News. | ||
| Accused CEO assassin Luigi Mangione indicted on federal charges. | ||
| So this, I'm not sure what the charges would be in New York State, but I don't think New York State has the death penalty. | ||
| But this... | ||
| I believe it's on hold. | ||
| Oh, New York State is on hold? | ||
| Yeah, I believe it's been on hold for a long time, but... | ||
| They used to have it, I'm pretty sure. | ||
| I don't know that it's been totally outlawed. | ||
| Okay, so we have... | ||
| Oh, this is actually... | ||
| You've got to join Fox News. | ||
| Do you have a key to get in here? | ||
| Let's see. | ||
| Who subscribes to Fox News? | ||
| I thought that we did. | ||
| No. Yuck. | ||
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| Wait, so why are they charging him with federal charges? | ||
| I think it's so that way they can give him the death penalty. | ||
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Hopefully. So, let's see. | |
| From the AP... | ||
| Federal prosecutors seek death penalty for Luigi Mangione and UnitedHealthcare CEO killing. | ||
| New York U.S. Attorney General Pam Bondi said Tuesday that she has directed prosecutors to seek the death penalty against Luigi Mangione in the killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, following through on the president's campaign promise to vigorously pursue capital punishment. | ||
| It is the first time the Justice Department has sought to bring the death penalty since President Donald Trump returned to office in January with a vow to resume federal executions after they were halted under the previous administration. | ||
| Luigi Mangione's murder of Brian Thompson, an innocent man and father of two young children, was a premeditated, cold-blooded assassination that shocked America, Bondi said in a statement. | ||
| She described Thompson's killing as an act of political violence. | ||
| Mangione, a 26-year-old Ivy League graduate from a prominent Maryland real estate family, faces separate federal and state murder charges after authorities say he gunned down Thompson, 50, outside a Manhattan hotel on December 4th as the executive arrived for UnitedHealthcare's annual investment. | ||
| I used to feel that way, but now... | ||
| Maggie is against the death penalty as a L word. | ||
| I'm not going to say it. | ||
| But do you have thoughts on this development here? | ||
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From a principled position, I'm against the death penalty. | |
| But also for Luigi Mangione, I think it's a horrible idea to turn him into a martyr. | ||
| His approval rating. | ||
| By the time he gets killed, though, he won't be martyr status by that. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| After all the appeals processes and stuff. | ||
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I think it's going to keep ratcheting up, especially if they actually go through with it. | |
| Shocking and disturbing how many people my age are all in on Luigi, but they are. | ||
| He's like the new Mumia Abu-Jamal or Leonard Peltier. | ||
| But there are these guys who end up committing federal crimes, who commit federal crimes and then are just lionized by the left, like Mumia or Peltier, who was a killer also. | ||
| But I think also... | ||
| Biden put a freeze on the death penalty. | ||
| And Trump said, nah, we're done with that freeze. | ||
| I'm entirely 100% thoroughly opposed to capital punishment. | ||
| Am I the only one that's not? | ||
| Because I'm a Christian. | ||
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I used to think that, okay, fine, we can't. | |
| We've got to be consistent. | ||
| No abortions. | ||
| We have to care about life. | ||
| But no. | ||
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Mm-mm. | |
| Now I'm like, I don't care if we get occasionally one wrong. | ||
| These people have to go, and I'm tired of absolute derelicts being in our society. | ||
| Not only am I tired of them being there, I'm tired of paying for them to, like, go to the gym and work out and have internet access. | ||
| No. No, you have to go. | ||
| I mean, if you look into it, all of the appeals and all of the cost that goes into actually killing someone. | ||
| That's why we should do it right away. | ||
| I think that's a terrible idea. | ||
| I think absolutely we should not be taking people's lives. | ||
| I think the government should not be taking people's lives. | ||
| I used to feel that way because I wanted to be consistent. | ||
| Oh, it's not about consistent. | ||
| If somebody did something heinous to my child and they didn't do that. | ||
| But that's why victims aren't in charge of penalties and punishments. | ||
| Put yourself in every parent's shoes. | ||
| That's why we need law. | ||
| It's not about being in parents' shoes. | ||
| That's why we need law. | ||
| That's justice. | ||
| That is justice. | ||
| Get rid of them. | ||
| Put these pedophiles... | ||
| I don't think vengeance is justice. | ||
| I can't say it on here. | ||
| Please don't say it on here. | ||
| You know. | ||
| So, I actually... | ||
| I mean, generally I'm against the death penalty not because there are not people that deserve it, but because I don't trust the government. | ||
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And they get things wrong. | |
| I don't trust them to do my taxes. | ||
| I hate that. | ||
| I'll do my taxes and then they'll be like, you screwed up. | ||
| And it's like, no, you screwed up. | ||
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There's a shocking percentage of people on death row that end up getting exonerated. | |
| But that was because they've been sitting there for 30 years before they had DNA evidence and things like that. | ||
| It is more likely that nowadays they're going to get it right. | ||
| Because of things like DNA evidence and because of cameras everywhere and stuff. | ||
| So again, I'm not against it in principle as in like, oh, Libby, you mentioned your religious faith is why. | ||
| And I don't have any problem like that. | ||
| It's just that I don't think the government is good at things and stuff. | ||
| So generally, I kind of think that it might be a bad idea. | ||
| You know, I do understand what you're saying about making a martyr out of him. | ||
| Is that a good reason to not do things, though? | ||
| Put him in jail forever? | ||
| Is he less of a martyr because of that? | ||
| They already lionize him. | ||
| They already have the candles, the Luigi Mangione candles, because they're absolute psychopaths. | ||
| I mean, it's vile. | ||
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It's disrespectful, first of all, to the Catholic faith. | |
| The finger goes up and everything. | ||
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It's so disrespectful. | |
| Put the candles away. | ||
| I hate when they do that. | ||
| They do that for every liberal politician, too. | ||
| Have you ever been to one of those bookstores and you see the wall? | ||
| Because they hate God. | ||
| Because they're mocking God. | ||
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Disgusting. But. | |
| Anyways. Yeah. | ||
| I should go too. | ||
| I think it's fair to say that, you know, they're already saying I'm crazy in the chat and I'm drunk. | ||
| I'm like, no, this is just me. | ||
| No, she's not had a drop. | ||
| Yeah, like that's just me. | ||
| That is her. | ||
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Yeah, for principled reasons, I'm against the death penalty. | |
| But also, even in this case, even though we know that he's probably allegedly guilty. | ||
| I think it's a horrible idea. | ||
| You're just gonna go and shoot somebody in the back and then you just get to kind of like chill in prison. | ||
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Yeah, he's gonna collect those love letters for the rest of his life. | |
| And feel great about himself. | ||
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Hopefully God sorts him out, you know? | |
| God can sort him out at judgment time at the pearly gates. | ||
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Yeah. Phil, why are you laughing at me? | |
| Why do you think I'm laughing at you? | ||
| I don't know why that's such a crazy position. | ||
| I think that these people deserve... | ||
| You have to be removed from society. | ||
| No, no, I totally understand. | ||
| And I agree with you. | ||
| I think they should be put in jail. | ||
| I definitely think they should be put in jail forever. | ||
| And that's what we do with people generally. | ||
| Putting people in jail, we take young, violent men, young men that tend to be too violent to be in society, and we put them in jail until they're not... | ||
| Young and violent. | ||
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And jail is pretty bad. | |
| What do you guys think of this proposition of sending American citizen criminals to El Salvador in prisons? | ||
| I'm not into that. | ||
| I'm totally opposed. | ||
| I also don't think that that's what his plan is. | ||
| It's part of a scaring deterrent factor. | ||
| And everybody keeps saying things when it comes to Trump about like, oh, is he really going to do this or that? | ||
| Or I forget what it was the other day. | ||
| I think it was Poso put up a thing like, should we go to a war with Iran? | ||
| Like, no, clearly we shouldn't, but we shouldn't tell the whole world we don't support him in doing that. | ||
| He has to have it as leverage, right? | ||
| And so if he's going to scare the crap out of everybody and say, get your act together, and if you hit somebody over the head with a baseball bat, we might send you to the gulag, then let them think that, and let's, like, have some deterrent mechanism there. | ||
| You don't have to actually send them. | ||
| I don't have a problem. | ||
| I don't like the idea of sending them to El Salvador. | ||
| I don't have a problem with Gitmo. | ||
| Genuinely, I don't have a problem with Guantanamo Bay. | ||
| And I also don't have a problem with building another Supermax like the one they got in Colorado. | ||
| Turn a mountain into a prison. | ||
| Dig a hole in it and stuff them under the mountain. | ||
| I'm fine with that. | ||
| You know, because there are people that can't be in society the way that the rest of us can. | ||
| They're just too violent or they're not able, you know, they can't function in society and they decide, you know, of their own volition to behave in ways that are just unacceptable. | ||
| And so you can't be in society, you can't be in society. | ||
| It's not a problem for me. | ||
| Did you ever read The Penal Colony? | ||
| You know, that Kafka story? | ||
| No. So the penal colony, the idea is that everybody gets, every bad guy gets sent to the penal colony, and then they're put basically on a spit, right? | ||
| They're like suspended, and their crime is tattooed on their body as they are slowly turned on the spit. | ||
| Fascinating. Yeah, it's disgusting. | ||
| It's an execution device, really, but like you're tattooed to death with your crime to death. | ||
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Death by tattoo. | |
| Death by... | ||
| Yeah, tattooing the penal colony. | ||
| I think if we brought back a little more drastic punishments with a little more... | ||
| I see. | ||
| When you came in today, you're like, I don't have anything to say. | ||
| I don't really have a pitch. | ||
| I'm like, BS, you're going to be all over the mic tonight. | ||
| I just think that if you have a little more drastic punishments and a little bit more... | ||
| It's done expediently. | ||
| I think that there... | ||
| The reason that it's not like Capital Publishment isn't a deterrent is because you don't see the result of it soon with all the appeals and things like that. | ||
| I think it would be more of a deterrent. | ||
| Like, look at Singapore. | ||
| We're trapping off hands, right? | ||
| For chewing gum. | ||
| Right. Okay, cool. | ||
| But there are places clean and there's not as many, you know. | ||
| But there's no freedom of speech. | ||
| I mean, the risk of freedom is that you give up your safety. | ||
| Speech is different than committing crime. | ||
| But it's all of it. | ||
| I remember this talk I heard with Camille Paglia, and she was talking about how when she was in college, she was at a women's college. | ||
| I think she was at Ratcliffe, right? | ||
| Because she's a super genius. | ||
| So she was at Ratcliffe, and the women's dorms had curfews, and they had to be back in the dorm by some early time, and the boys could stay out all night. | ||
| So the women were pissed, and they were like, hey, that's not fair. | ||
| And the school was like, well, we're just doing this for your protection. | ||
| And she said, I have the right to... | ||
| Go out and have something terrible happen to me because I would rather have my freedom than your protection and limits on my freedom. | ||
| And that's what America is, right? | ||
| We have our freedoms. | ||
| I don't feel that way. | ||
| I think that men and women are wildly different and that women should be treated differently and women should have more restrictions on them than men. | ||
| My daughter's not allowed to go to college. | ||
| Your daughter's not allowed to go to college? | ||
| I'm not encouraging her to go to college. | ||
| No. Why? | ||
| So I can spend $200,000 to let her go get drunk and be a pegboard? | ||
| No. She's not going. | ||
| That's not the only way to do college. | ||
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I think any woman you raise will know better. | |
| She better. | ||
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She's got a strong mama. | |
| I definitely think that women should be a little... | ||
| Here I am talking, right? | ||
| But whatever. | ||
| That's kind of how my life fell into things. | ||
| But I really do think that women do need a little protection. | ||
| And we should kind of, you know... | ||
| We should put those boundaries in place a little bit more than we have now because look at what it's gotten us. | ||
| Women are a disgusting mess. | ||
| There's parents being strict and then there's women not having equality under the law and those are two very different things. | ||
| I don't know if I like total equality under the law. | ||
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And I think women should have freedom but we should also understand what the risks are and be really realistic. | |
| Our boys have freedom. | ||
| They know what the risks are and some of them go up and kill people. | ||
| Society doesn't want that. | ||
| You can't deny the fact that society has said that women are going to be enfranchised, they're going to have the ultimate liberty that men have, but at the same time, they want special treatment. | ||
| I don't see a lot of special treatment. | ||
| He's right. | ||
| Well, first of all, things like the draft and stuff like that. | ||
| They're not capable of serving in the military the way that men are, right? | ||
| And they're a distraction. | ||
| My son's friend, who's a girl, they have a whole group chat. | ||
| And she was pissed today when she found out that she would not be permitted to register for the draft. | ||
| She was very angry about it. | ||
| Really? More power to this girl. | ||
| There's so many covert... | ||
| My mom's... | ||
| I love you, mom. | ||
| But, like, even, like, there's certain things, like, you know, have your own bank account. | ||
| Do this. | ||
| You can be in a draft. | ||
| You can, like, no. | ||
| No, you're women. | ||
| Go have babies. | ||
| Go do what God wanted you to do. | ||
| Go take care of it. | ||
| Nurture people. | ||
| But that's not for everybody. | ||
| I mean, it doesn't have to be for everybody. | ||
| It's not for everybody. | ||
| It used to be for the majority of women until feminism poisoned everybody's brains and then everybody feels like they have to work. | ||
| So feminism has sold society a lie that you can be a CEO and you can be a mom of four and you can do them both equally and you can do them both at the same time. | ||
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But you can work and have kids. | |
| One thing I wish we would do is... | ||
| Teach women how to find careers where you can do both. | ||
| What I do for work, I can totally do. | ||
| They want to be Iron Man as well as... | ||
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I don't want to be Iron Man. | |
| I chose my path. | ||
| I chose not to be the CEO girl boss. | ||
| And a lot of women are finding out that's not for them. | ||
| Also, I think a lot of women underestimate how fulfilling work can be when you're choosing. | ||
| Your path and it fits into your life. | ||
| But look at this. | ||
| We were just talking about teens and kids and everybody's a little more violent. | ||
| People are detached. | ||
| They're on their cell phones. | ||
| Like all these things. | ||
| What is the result of that? | ||
| Right? Like what does that come from? | ||
| That comes from people thinking they can do it all and not focusing on their children and the things that are important. | ||
| All right. | ||
| So listen, we're going to wrap this and we're going to jump to this story here. | ||
| Nicholas Decker. | ||
| Is a student. | ||
| I'm not sure where he's at, but he posted this on Twitter earlier today, and it's... | ||
| Got a boatload of views. | ||
| It's at 5.1 million views. | ||
| And all of my friends were sharing this and basically dunking on the guy because, well, I mean, look at him. | ||
| But his tweet says, And he wrote a whole big old... | ||
| piece on Substack about when, apparently when he believes violence is acceptable. | ||
| And of course, it's from a left-leaning perspective. | ||
| This speaks to the point that Libby brought up earlier, that 55% of Democrats believe that violence is acceptable. | ||
| To some degree. | ||
| And I think that they probably only say to some degree because most people are a little apprehensive about saying, yeah, let's go cut their heads off. | ||
| You know, like nobody wants to come out and say that. | ||
| They do say it though. | ||
| I was just filming on the street in Philly with James. | ||
| Real quick. | ||
| This is great. | ||
| Yeah, nothing to say, right? | ||
| I know, I know. | ||
| I was right! | ||
| We were literally filming on the street and we were asking people if they're okay with the Tesla violence and everything like that. | ||
| And the man goes, he goes, you know, sometimes that's what you have to do. | ||
| Look at the French Revolution. | ||
| He was like, they... | ||
| We're using the guillotine, right? | ||
| And so James asks him, he goes, so do you think we should, you know, is it okay if we do the guillotine to Elon Musk? | ||
| And the guy was like, yeah. | ||
| And then a sentence later, he's like, I have like totally centrist, moderate views. | ||
| Like he literally said that they don't even realize. | ||
| How insane they are. | ||
| None of them realize that. | ||
| This is why people really should actually watch the videos from the Mexican cartels. | ||
| Because that's what they're talking about. | ||
| That's what you get. | ||
| Like I said earlier, the left seems to think that there is a volume knob on violence. | ||
| That's not how it works. | ||
| You don't get to say, oh, okay, it's a little too rich for me now, so I'm going to turn it down. | ||
| And there's a phrase when it comes to the military and in war that you hear all the time. | ||
| The bad guy gets a vote too. | ||
| Once you open that box, right? | ||
| Once both sides have said, okay, this is the course of action that we're taking, you don't get to say, oh, wait a minute, that's too much. | ||
| And for too many, like too many people don't understand that it's not Lexington and Concord. | ||
| It's not... | ||
| It's not gonna be, you know, redcoats versus the bluecoats. | ||
| It's not gonna be like that. | ||
| What it'll end up being is cartel violence. | ||
| It'll be like the mob violence. | ||
| It won't be anything pretty. | ||
| So these kind of things, in my opinion, they're just totally, totally ridiculous to even entertain. | ||
| Like, you should not be talking about this stuff. | ||
| But, again, we live in a world where there were two, you know, attempts on the... | ||
| What's it called? | ||
| And the Democrats have changed zero. | ||
| There are multiple very big accounts on X that I can think of that are constantly saying Trump's a Nazi, constantly making the comparisons to Germany in the 30s, and it does not stop. | ||
| Keith Olbermann, Rachel Beitkofer, there's a bunch of people that are consistently making the same kind of allegations, and when you hear that over and over, you get ridiculous stuff like this. | ||
| I'm going to read the first paragraph here. | ||
| Evil has come to America. | ||
| The present administration is engaged in barbarism. | ||
| It has arbitrarily imprisoned its opponent. | ||
| That's just not true. | ||
| There are no political opponents that are imprisoned. | ||
| Well, they're visas. | ||
| I mean, that's not all that big of a deal. | ||
| What? That's what they do. | ||
| It's totally detached from reality and seeks to destroy the institutions which oppose it. | ||
| Its leader has threatened those who produce unfavorable coverage and suggested that their licenses be revoked. | ||
| It has deprived us in many cases of trial by jury. | ||
| That's just not true. | ||
| It has subjected us to a jurisdiction foreign to our Constitution and has transported us beyond seas to be imprisoned for protection. | ||
| That's not true either. | ||
| He's talking about the Maryland man. | ||
| We have a media that encourages this, that continues to feed this narrative. | ||
| The Media Research Center did a study of the... | ||
| Coverage of Garcia versus the coverage of Rachel Morin. | ||
| And there was like 100% more coverage of Garcia than Rachel Morin because what the media enterprises want to do is set this up as an example as to why there should be no deportations. | ||
| And what I think is really important to realize is that the administration that came before Trump encouraged all of this illegal immigration. | ||
| With absolutely no intention of sending anybody home ever at any time for any reason. | ||
| Surge the border. | ||
| Yeah, so that was the whole point. | ||
| And so now when you have people like this doofus who are saying political opponents are being imprisoned and what he's talking about are criminals who are being told finally to leave. | ||
| And judges who are coming out and saying, oh, you can't just... | ||
| Terminate temporary protective status for half a million people. | ||
| You can't just deport people without due process. | ||
| We have 10 million extra people in this country, right? | ||
| That came in under Biden. | ||
| More than that, but go ahead. | ||
| But let's just go with 10 million, right? | ||
| Because... Still wild. | ||
| It's still wild. | ||
| But just under Biden, who came in, because it was like... | ||
| Over $2 million a year by the official count, by the Biden administration's own count. | ||
| So, you know, already it's going to be way more. | ||
| But you have all of these people come in. | ||
| How long would it take to give due process to 10 million people? | ||
| It would take centuries, like literal centuries. | ||
| And so when you had the Biden administration trying to push that bill through Congress, what was it, last June, saying that we needed more judges, more immigration judges, they wanted more judges so they could get more people in. | ||
| And at the same time as they were doing that, they were cutting off cases. | ||
| They were saying, OK. | ||
| Don't even bother contacting these people about their court date. | ||
| Just get rid of these court dates. | ||
| They were implementing a semi-legal status system for people that they wanted in the country to do the labor to support the laptop class. | ||
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Yeah, I have some concerns about due process specifically as it pertains to sending people to Seacoat. | |
| This is where I turn into Darth Vader. | ||
| I don't have any concerns. | ||
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If you're not a citizen, I do think that... | |
| I also have concerns with the fact that we have a ton of people that are here illegally and our immigration courts are totally backed up. | ||
| My genuine wish, sincerest wish, is that there is a way to speed up that process for deportations. | ||
| However, sending people to El Salvador to this prison that's not really run by us. | ||
| I'm completely fine with sending people from El Salvador back to El Salvador. | ||
| And what happens to them when they're in El Salvador is not my problem. | ||
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But if we're funding it, does it become our problem? | |
| No, because we're getting them out of here. | ||
| This is, and I've said this multiple times on the show, this is a creation of the Democrats and Joe Biden. | ||
| It was intentional on their part. | ||
| They used the Health and Human Services... | ||
| To move these people around the country in an effort to affect the census and affect congressional representation. | ||
| They wanted, they had people come in and they wanted to use these asylum seekers, which were illegal asylum seekers because they didn't go to port of entrance. | ||
| They were coming over wherever they could get over. | ||
| And as soon as they ran into a Border Patrol agent, they said they were seeking asylum. | ||
| That's illegal. | ||
| That means they go right back. | ||
| This was a plan by the Democrat Party in an effort to install the Democrat Party as a permanent one-party system in the United States that disenfranchises millions of Americans, takes away all of their political power. | ||
| These people deserve far worse than they're going to get, but the people that are here, and I'm talking about the politicians and the NGOs and the people in the administration, We've facilitated this. | ||
| But the people that have been brought here, that have been helped by NGOs to come up over the Darien Gap through Mexico, all of those people need to go. | ||
| Every single one that we can get rid of. | ||
| And if there are mistakes made, those people that were in error can petition the government from somewhere else. | ||
| This is not something that the American people should be punished with. | ||
| Because again, this is taking away political power from Americans born in America. | ||
| It's taking that power away using their own money to do it by the elected officials. | ||
| This is not just a dereliction of duty. | ||
| It is... | ||
| Absolutely counter to the best interests of the American people. | ||
| And I don't think that it counts as treason. | ||
| I'm not sure what the exact term would be. | ||
| But using the money of the American people in an effort to dilute the political power of the American people is abhorrent to anything. | ||
| That any American would agree with. | ||
| The people that are here illegally need to go, and I don't care about due process. | ||
| Send them home. | ||
| It's not just that, either. | ||
| I mean, it's not just the political power, which I assume you're talking about congressional districts, right? | ||
| Yes, they're looking to redistrict, and they're also looking to turn purple states blue. | ||
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It's hugely problematic. | |
| Yeah, I mean, that's a big problem, too. | ||
| But there's a lot of other issues as well, because Chuck Schumer said outright that America needs illegal immigrants. | ||
| He said that in September of 2024. | ||
| He said that in a press conference. | ||
| It's not a conspiracy theory. | ||
| This is what Chuck Schumer said, Democrat senator from New York. | ||
| You had AOC out there. | ||
| The browning of America, the phrases, the thing. | ||
| And then if you were a white person that said, oh, they're trying to replace us, you're a racist, they hit you with all of the slurings. | ||
| And you're like demonetized on YouTube. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| When they would say the exact same thing. | ||
| If they like it and they say it, it's okay. | ||
| And if you don't like it and you say it, then you're the problem. | ||
| You also had Jasmine Crockett out there saying that we need illegal immigrants to do all of these menial jobs. | ||
| She said, and I quote, we done picking cotton. | ||
| I was just like, what? | ||
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We want to create a second class of citizens in America. | |
| I don't know whether to love or hate that woman. | ||
| With dodgy legal status who have to do these jobs. | ||
| And you also had, lest anyone forget, you had Barack Obama out there when he was doing his campaign for president, and he was quoting Cesar Chavez. | ||
| Does everyone remember this? | ||
| Cesar Chavez? | ||
| Remember Cesar Chavez? | ||
| Cesar Chavez is a California labor organizer. | ||
| He went out there into the... | ||
| And what would happen is they were picking strawberries in the valleys. | ||
| The farmers would put pesticides out and herbicides out to, like, you know, protect the strawberries. | ||
| All of those pesticides would roll down into the valley. | ||
| The Mexicans would be picking it. | ||
| They'd get sick. | ||
| Not great. | ||
| Like, that's not good, right? | ||
| So Cesar Chavez goes out there and he says, you know, we need union. | ||
| We need to organize. | ||
| We need to become a union. | ||
| We need to fight for the rights of workers so that they can go out and pick strawberries without getting sick. | ||
| Okay, cool. | ||
| Totally on board. | ||
| Pro-union. | ||
| Whatever. Chavez. | ||
| Was entirely 100% opposed to illegal immigration. | ||
| Why? Because it undercut American wages. | ||
| It undercut the wages of the people that he was organizing. | ||
| And these people came in and were used as strikebusters, you know, and then they would come in and take the work. | ||
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They get thrown to the wolves, for sure, because they can't advocate for themselves. | |
| Right. And they have no legal standing. | ||
| So you have Democrats simultaneously sucking the teat of labor and gobbling up all of their money and undercutting labor and going against labor. | ||
| It's no surprise that when we had the April 5th hands-off rally and we had all the labor leaders out there talking, it's no surprise that every single one of those labor leaders were leaders of government unions. | ||
| These were government workers that they are representing. | ||
| They're not representing actual labor. | ||
| The UAW wasn't out there. | ||
| The Teamsters, who also represent like what a huge swath of hospitality, I think they weren't out there. | ||
| You know, that's not like the Democrats are feeding us lines about Cisse Puede and about I think a big portion of it is they believe that they're doing the right thing. | ||
| It's a moral thing because they have no God other than themselves. | ||
| And so if they think they're doing good, then they believe they're good people. | ||
| And that's enough. | ||
| I mean, these are people who do yoga and think that makes you a good person. | ||
| Like, that is ludicrous. | ||
| That's just out of control. | ||
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It just makes you flexible. | |
| It's actually just demonic in general. | ||
| Maybe. It's not even good. | ||
| Like, it doesn't make you a good person. | ||
| Like, being vegan doesn't make you a good person. | ||
| Neither does, like, doing a nice bike ride. | ||
| That doesn't make you good. | ||
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No, it doesn't. | |
| It just, you know, it makes you, like, I don't know, oxygenated. | ||
| Going back to due process for a second. | ||
| He's from El Salvador. | ||
| He comes here illegally. | ||
| Forget whatever he did. | ||
| If El Salvador wanted to extradite him back and we had an extradite thing, we could do that. | ||
| He doesn't need to hear a court. | ||
| They clearly want to keep him. | ||
| They clearly want to keep him. | ||
| So why, if it's their citizen and they want him there, why do we need to go through this whole rigmarole to... | ||
| Send him back when he doesn't belong here and his government wants him there. | ||
| What's interesting, too, is when they talk about the administrative error, right? | ||
| They were talking about, oh, he was sent back by mistake. | ||
| What they mean by sent back by mistake is that he was sent to El Salvador because in the original, I think it was the 2019 protective order, it said that he could get sent somewhere, but he shouldn't go to El Salvador because his mother was being extradited at her, you know, not extradited. | ||
| But those gangs are gone, right? | ||
| Yeah. Gangs are gone. | ||
| They're in the prison. | ||
| They sent him to the same place that the gangs are. | ||
| You've seen that prison. | ||
| You've seen inside of there. | ||
| Nick Shirley did a great expose on it. | ||
| Nobody's fighting in there. | ||
| Nobody's going to kill him in there. | ||
| It is so regimented in there. | ||
| And there are no gangs to... | ||
| Hurt him. | ||
| They are all under so much control there. | ||
| Have you seen the videos? | ||
| I've seen pictures. | ||
| I haven't seen videos. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| Go watch Nick Shirley's YouTube on it. | ||
| Nothing's going to happen to him in there. | ||
| So I want to get back to the violence here in the U.S. And there's one thing that I saw in this kid's essay. | ||
| It says, if these actions become normal, the government could arrest anyone and deport them to a prison in a foreign land without hope of redress for no reason. | ||
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It's not true. | |
| So first of all, legally, You're correct. | ||
| It's not true legally. | ||
| But honestly, everyone knows that if the government wants to do those things, they're going to do that. | ||
| They have a monopoly on force. | ||
| Yeah, they have a monopoly on violence. | ||
| We hope that we have the ability to use lawyers and the law and courts to prevent, not to prevent that, but to get us out of that situation. | ||
| But if they want you, the government is just going to come take you. | ||
| And you can, you can, the evidence of that is the, the raids of people's homes over all kinds of different things. | ||
| The fact that the government complains, | ||
| constantly violates the Fourth Amendment when it comes to civil asset fortitude. | ||
| I know you love that one. | ||
| Absolutely. You know, the violations of the Second Amendment, the attempts to have, what was it, they called them free speech zones on campuses where you weren't allowed to say whatever you wanted except for this specific little | ||
| area. The government will do everything | ||
| Any number of things to violate your rights, and we only have the hope. | ||
| Was that government or was that universities? | ||
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Those are mostly universities. | |
| Oh, was it? | ||
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Okay, fair enough. | |
| Ten times out of ten, it was the university saying, we have free speech, and then it's like, but only in this aisle. | ||
| And unless you're Jews. | ||
| Well, fair enough on that particular point. | ||
| But it's not like the government has any compunction about going to your house, kicking in your door, and pulling you out, or just killing you. | ||
| There was a guy that the ATF killed over some kind of... | ||
| In Montana? | ||
| Pardon me? | ||
| In Montana? | ||
| I don't think... | ||
| I thought he was in Florida. | ||
| Oh, well, there's been a bunch. | ||
| Yeah, but... | ||
| Yeah, there you go. | ||
| To my point, you know. | ||
| Utah, not Montana. | ||
| But the point being, the government has no compunction with going and ripping you out of your home for whatever reason they feel. | ||
| So the idea that, oh, we're protected now and then Donald Trump is going to make things dangerous, it's such a ridiculous... | ||
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In fact, there's... | |
| A bigger microscope on what the Trump administration is doing. | ||
| So I highly doubt that an American citizen is going to get ripped out of the country, deported to El Salvador, and then not be brought back. | ||
| It did happen once to an American man, I think in 2012, who was mentally disabled and he was like wandering around Mexico for a while, but they got him back. | ||
| So it has happened before, but not under Donald Trump. | ||
| And fair enough, it sucks if it does, right? | ||
| Fine. I agree. | ||
| And I don't want to see that happen to innocent people. | ||
| But more than that, I don't want to see an endless train of illegals staying in the country. | ||
| I don't want to see a government... | ||
| That is completely lawless. | ||
| So this kid talking about, oh, all of these things that the Trump administration has done and is going to do, and questioning when is it acceptable for violence, I mean, this is something that me and Tim talk about, and I came up with a phrase that's, where's the off-ramp? | ||
| If kids are writing stuff like that, and people believe these things... | ||
| They really do believe it. | ||
| They really do. | ||
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And it's like normal people. | |
| You said the self-proclaimed centrist was saying it's fine to do that to Elon Musk. | ||
| Wild. We have breaking news. | ||
| What's that? | ||
| We have breaking news. | ||
| Garcia, who we were just talking about, has a tweet from the president of El Salvador. | ||
| President Bukale. | ||
| Kilmar Abrego Garcia miraculously risen from the death camps and tortured, now sipping margaritas with Senator Van Hollen in the tropical paradise of El Salvador. | ||
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Here's some photographs of this guy. | |
| Literal photo shoot. | ||
| First of all, he needs to get... | ||
| Yeah, done for the Logan Act. | ||
| So with the Maryland senator, right? | ||
| Yes. That's who he's with? | ||
| This guy, if I understand correctly, this guy has done absolutely nothing for any of the people in Baltimore that are victims of tons of violence. | ||
| Tons of violence. | ||
| And he then can go to El Salvador for a guy that's not even an American. | ||
| So I agree with you, Lisa. | ||
| He should definitely, definitely should go. | ||
| That's undermining the foreign policy interests of the United States, and he should be arrested immediately. | ||
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You know what? | |
| That's what I want to see. | ||
| I don't want to see people at UFC. | ||
| I don't want to see Pam Bondi on Fox News every night. | ||
| I want to see people arrested for things like this. | ||
| I want to see as many... | ||
| Lawsuits, as many... | ||
| Anything that you can do, I want to see more. | ||
| We've talked about this, actually. | ||
| More, way more. | ||
| There are... | ||
| There are a lot of people that are saying, oh, there's a lot of people that are saying that, oh, the administration's not doing enough, they haven't done anything, etc., etc. | ||
| And I am of the opinion that the administration is aware. | ||
| Of the desires of their base. | ||
| And I believe that they're also working to do the things that the base wants. | ||
| And the reason you haven't heard anything is because if they talk about it on the internet, it blows the investigation. | ||
| You could at least say there's stuff coming. | ||
| Literally, Dan Bongino did. | ||
| There's a tweet that he said, look, just because you're not seeing it doesn't mean that it's not happening. | ||
| And you're the person I'm talking about, Lisa. | ||
| I just think we only have about a year, year and a half to get this thing seriously done before midterms come. | ||
| We have less than a year and a half. | ||
| It is not like... | ||
| It is not like they didn't have all the evidence for all these years for a lot of things. | ||
| We've had numerous investigations. | ||
| We've had numerous congressional hearings on these things. | ||
| It's not like they didn't have it. | ||
| It's not hard to compile the evidence. | ||
| That Trump has removed people's clearances. | ||
| Those are moves that indicate something is happening. | ||
| So, again... | ||
| I'm a little impatient because I've been let down so many times and seen nothing happen and then be completely feckless and I'm just hoping that that's not the case. | ||
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The Epstein files, I think, definitely caused them. | |
| That was a terrible... | ||
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That was such a terrible move. | |
| Really bad rollout. | ||
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Yeah. Not great. | |
| I think there's a good chance the Epstein files don't exist. | ||
| Yeah. Fair. | ||
| Anymore. Yeah. | ||
| Well, also, it was analog. | ||
| These were all analog files. | ||
| So, to the extent that they do exist, they were probably drowned in some subway flood in Brooklyn years ago. | ||
| Yeah. All right, we're going to go on to this story. | ||
| From the Postmillennial, breaking, Carmella Anthony's reps called police on Austin Metcalfe's father for attending press conference after his boy was stabbed to death. | ||
| From the Postmillennial, representatives for Caramello Anthony in his murder case in the killing of 17-year-old Austin Metcalf called the police on Metcalf's father for showing up to a Thursday press conference that they were holding. | ||
| According to ABC8, the Next Generation Action Network, which is a Dallas-based activist group that has taken on the role of publicly defending Anthony, called the police and asked Jeff Metcalf to be removed from the scene. | ||
| Anthony was released from jail and placed under house arrest after being charged with the murder of Austin Metcalf. | ||
| Anthony admitted to stabbing Metcalf at a track meet. | ||
| According to police, he has claimed self-defense in the case and has garnered national mutuality. | ||
| I don't think you could possibly do make a worse move. | ||
| This man whose son is dead at the hands of the defendant here, who also said, look, I don't want to see this turned into a racial thing. | ||
| I want, you know, he was looking for a, the best. | ||
| Best way to handle it that he could with the least malice and the most charity. | ||
| And then he shows up here and they decide they're going to kick him out. | ||
| He was probably going to be nice. | ||
| He was probably going to make amends. | ||
| That seems like what his whole MO has been anyway. | ||
| This was just totally disgusting. | ||
| Libby, what's this video here? | ||
| Is this just him being walked out? | ||
| Yeah, we should watch it. | ||
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Hey, we asked that job. | |
| Dude, this is why you can't be charitable. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| Yeah, the police took him out. | ||
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It's disgusting how they're treating this guy's dad. | |
| He said it was disrespectful for him to show up. | ||
| How about it's disrespectful that his son stabbed somebody? | ||
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It's disrespectful that they're bringing out this Dominique Alexander guy who's trying to cosplay as a civil rights leader over a murder case. | |
| Weird stuff with this guy. | ||
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Yes, so I was looking into him. | |
| He, you know, like there was some case where he was babysitting his girlfriend's toddler and the kid ended up sustaining a bunch of injuries and he admitted to shaking the baby. | ||
| Oh, that's not good. | ||
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He also was, his girlfriend reported him for domestic assault. | |
| He's been grown in jail over forgery. | ||
| This guy is the last person I would bring in if I'm trying to prove to everyone that my son is non-violent and also credible. | ||
| You bring in a guy with a history of violence who's gone to jail over forgery. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| To that point, the Post Millennial reports, Caramel Anthony's rep blames Frisco School District. | ||
| Weather for fatal stabbing death of Austin Metcalf. | ||
| This guy is going to botch this so bad that even though I didn't think that Carmelo Anthony was going to get the death penalty, I think that he might end up getting the death penalty because of his poor representation. | ||
| Like, I assume he probably would get 25 years. | ||
| No, the death penalty was taken off the table. | ||
| He's 17. He can't have it. | ||
| So he's going to end up in jail for life then? | ||
| Life in prison was also taken off the table. | ||
| Well, he can have life with the possibility of parole. | ||
| They can give him that, but they can't give him life without the possibility of parole. | ||
| Well, with this kind of representation... | ||
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Totally the wrong way. | |
| Yeah, they kicked him out, and then this guy was also... | ||
| The representative was also talking about how the weather was to blame for the attack. | ||
| Did you write this piece? | ||
| No. No. | ||
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All right. | |
| So from the Postmillennial, a representative for Carmelo Anthony placed blame on the Frisco Independent School District, as well as the weather for the murder suspect stabbing Austin Metcalf to death at a district track meet earlier this month. | ||
| While Dominique Alexander was speaking to reporters on Thursday, he said that Frisco ISD is trying to push off the blame because the school district isn't taking steps to expel Anthony, insinuating that the school district was to blame for the stabbing. | ||
| He then added, what I have not heard the media say, as many media outlets asked us what went on, I'm trying to find how many of y'all have asked the superintendent on one of these board of trustees, why didn't you cancel or postpone with weather in that magnitude? | ||
| You couldn't have attract me in the rain or thunderstorms or clouds. | ||
| Let me tell you, rain defense. | ||
| Hold on, hold on, hold on. | ||
| It gets a little better. | ||
| Y'all are the media. | ||
| Ask your journalist, your weather journalist, how the weather was that day and that time. | ||
| Y'all do that research. | ||
| Because a person who is the administrator of your children, you are responsible for the safety of the children. | ||
| And so it seems that Frisco ISD is trying to push this off by making this decision that they do not have to make, he said, in reference to Anthony getting expelled. | ||
| This is insane. | ||
| To blame the weather for behavior. | ||
| Wait until the video comes out. | ||
| This is something that I have a real bad problem with. | ||
| People, especially people on the left in the United States, when it comes to actions, they tend to look for any other reason aside from the individual that acted. | ||
| And I actually went through this last night. | ||
| You see it with some international issues as well. | ||
| With the Ukraine war, it's not Putin's fault. | ||
| It's because of the U.S. or because of the Ukraine. | ||
| In Israel, it's not Hamas' fault. | ||
| It's Israel's fault. | ||
| The idea that the people that actually carry out the violence aren't to blame, that they're victims somehow, that's something the left does. | ||
| All the time. | ||
| And you heard about it. | ||
| I mean, Solzhenitsyn wrote about it in the Archipelago. | ||
| If you're a normal person and you have a knife, well, you're the bad guy. | ||
| But if there's a criminal that has a knife and uses it, well, he's a criminal. | ||
| He didn't. | ||
| And he ended up there because of circumstance, etc. | ||
| The left is constantly making excuses for people that have the ability to make decisions on their own, that have agency, and in this case it's no different. | ||
| I want to go back to that in a minute, but I just want to talk about the rain because I talked to somebody, a whistleblower called me about this when they said there was no video, and somebody told me about the video that they watched, and this is verified, so I verified my source. | ||
| Anyway, he wasn't just running to get out of the rain. | ||
| He didn't just jump into a tent to get out of the rain. | ||
| He walked past one tent. | ||
| He walked past another tent. | ||
| He walked up the bleachers, back down the bleachers, around Metcalfe's tent, and then sat in his tent. | ||
| And so it's not like this, you'll see when the video comes out, but it is not like he was just dodging in a tent to get out of the rain like they're trying to make it seem. | ||
| That's just not true. | ||
| Wait to see that. | ||
| But then, in the meantime, you can go finish with the rest. | ||
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I just still don't understand how this escalated to a knife getting pulled and someone dying. | |
| It's this culture. | ||
| It's unbelievable. | ||
| He brought the knife on purpose. | ||
| He brought the knife clearly on purpose with the intent to use it. | ||
| And as soon as he was picked up afterwards, he said, no, I did this. | ||
| I am interested in seeing, like, what kind of knife. | ||
| I wonder if he was intending to kill him or if he was just intending to stab him. | ||
| But he stabbed him right in the heart. | ||
| Stabbed him in the chest, yeah. | ||
| It is just the culture that says, you dissed me, you disrespected me, you told me to leave, you embarrassed me, you pushed me, you deserve to die. | ||
| That is becoming more and more prevalent, like I've said a million times, and nobody seems to care or notice or want to talk about it. | ||
| See, I don't think that it's... | ||
| I mean, maybe it is becoming more and more prevalent, but I don't feel like it's new. | ||
| I remember back... | ||
| I remember back when I was a kid, you would hear stories about people getting killed for their Jordans. | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| So I don't think that it doesn't happen. | ||
| It hasn't happened. | ||
| I'm going to send you a whole thing. | ||
| When we get done, I'm going to send you tons of stories. | ||
| In order. | ||
| But it is to a different level. | ||
| If you look at right now, just Google teen... | ||
| I'm busy right now. | ||
| Oh, well, I forgot you can't multitask. | ||
| But if you really look up how many teens are dying from shooting and violent deaths like that, the numbers are skyrocketing at an abnormal level. | ||
| Okay. Well, I don't think you're wrong. | ||
| I just... | ||
| What do you think it is? | ||
| There's just more people? | ||
| No, I think that it's... | ||
| Godless. It probably is more intense now than it's been. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
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Youth gun deaths in the U.S. have surged 50% since 2019. | |
| This is 2023. | ||
| Yeah, it's been brutal. | ||
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Yeah, it's on the rise. | |
| So is that because of... | ||
| I was under the impression that there was a lot of that because of COVID. | ||
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It definitely jumped in 2020. | |
| Because they were buying guns with their stimulus checks. | ||
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Yeah, but it's remained consistent since. | |
| All right, so Serge just brought this up for me. | ||
| In 2020, the homicide rate for youth under 18 in the U.S. was 37% below the peak in 1993. | ||
| 1993 is when I was talking about, because that's when I was 18. That's when all of gangster rap really kind of exploded onto the scene. | ||
| So, like, this kind of does... | ||
| Kind of give a... | ||
| Point to my point of back in the 90s, there was considerable violence. | ||
| And we really have gone through a significant decline in violence in the past 30 years up until 2020. | ||
| But it goes on. | ||
| But still, in 2020, the homicide rate for youths under 18 in the U.S. was 37% lower than the peak in 1993, but still saw 1,777 victims. | ||
| This age group represents about 8% of all murder victims that year. | ||
| Globally, approximately. | ||
| Approximately 193,000 homicides occur among those aged 15 to 29 each year, making it the leading cause of death for this age group, according to the WHO. | ||
| So, yeah, but I don't disagree with you. | ||
| I don't think that you're wrong about the increase since 2020. | ||
| That's something that we've actually heard multiple times, those stats, because COVID and because of the, apparently maybe the stimulus checks. | ||
| I'm not... | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| Here's another one. | ||
| Trends in juvenile offending what you need to know. | ||
| Homicides perpetrated by juveniles jump 65%. | ||
| Here, I'll send it to search. | ||
| But it's literally out of control. | ||
| You can look it up later, but I'm going to send it to you. | ||
| Like I said, I don't disbelieve you, but the... | ||
| It's my sense that... | ||
| It's my kids that have to hang around with those kids. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Or be at the park when they go shoot seven of them. | ||
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Well, again, you live in the city, too. | |
| I live in Atlanta, so I see a lot of kids. | ||
| You live in Atlanta? | ||
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I live in Atlanta, and I'm from Baton Rouge, Louisiana. | |
| Shout out to Louisiana. | ||
| Yeah, it's bad. | ||
| It's really, really bad. | ||
| And I think this goes back to the conversation we were having earlier about how young people don't value human life anymore. | ||
| But in general, I think the rules of engagement have deteriorated across society. | ||
| Like, people think that violence, theft, murder, any form of violence, they believe that it's an acceptable form of engaging with others in society. | ||
| Now that we've passed that point, what now? | ||
| How do you put the cat back in the bag? | ||
| Okay, like, you're all kids, and so I know that I am dating myself here, but, you know, crime did peak in the 90s, and for definitely all of your life, and most of your life, and Libby's a little younger than me. | ||
| I was kind of young in 93, but yeah. | ||
| You were definitely kind of young. | ||
| But the point that I'm making is crime has been going down, right? | ||
| Right. Granted, there has been, like, there was definitely a decrease in the death rate, partially because of, you know, the ability of people to call from cell phones and stuff like that, that you can call for help and things like that, that affected how many people actually got, | ||
| you know, how many assaults turned into murders, because, you know, if you get shot and you can call the cops, they come and help you out, you know, most of the time. | ||
| Response times have really gone down. | ||
| And also, to be honest with you, the ability to deal with traumatic injury is much greater now, specifically because of the war on terror. | ||
| They've learned a lot from all the dudes getting shot and stuff in the war on terror in the early aughts. | ||
| But until 2020, it had been going down. | ||
| So this is not something that we've experienced a lot. | ||
| The first time in my life. | ||
| I remember when I was young, it was... | ||
| Even like 12 and 13 year olds? | ||
| What? Yeah. | ||
| I don't remember 12 and 13 year olds shooting at each other. | ||
| Oh yeah, that was happening. | ||
| Absolutely. I don't remember that. | ||
| Drugs, gangs have always used young people. | ||
| But these aren't even about drugs. | ||
| It doesn't matter. | ||
| Well, it could be about whatever you want. | ||
| This is what I'm saying. | ||
| There's like this, it's across the board, especially on the left. | ||
| It's especially with young people, especially with young black people too. | ||
| But it is, it is something in our society that says there's, human life doesn't matter if we don't like you. | ||
| That was something, that was something that was, that was a phenomenon that this is not new. | ||
| So I'm not saying that it might, it seems more intense now. | ||
| But again, in the 90s. | ||
| The gang wars and all of the stuff that you heard when it came to Southern California rap, right? | ||
| All the rap that I grew up listening to, all the stuff like Dr. Dre, they were talking about, I'll kill you just for looking at me the wrong way. | ||
| That kind of attitude is something... | ||
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Didn't MS-13 form in that environment? | |
| Yes. Within that context? | ||
| Probably. I think so. | ||
| MS-13 formed in prison. | ||
| Yeah, MS-13 was formed in, I believe, a California prison. | ||
| You can get shot for wearing... | ||
| Crips and Bloods were killing each other in the 90s, and you could get shot for wearing the wrong color in the wrong part of town. | ||
| Like, that was a real thing in the 90s. | ||
| So, not that I want to say you're wrong. | ||
| But I don't think that it's such a new phenomenon. | ||
| I think that it's an upsurge since 2020. | ||
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What about the political violence? | |
| Well, the political violence is different. | ||
| Actually, that's not different either because Congress got bombed in the 80s. | ||
| In the 70s, we looked into it and there was 2,500 bombings in 1971 to 72. It was Oklahoma City. | ||
| Yeah, that was in the 90s too. | ||
| You don't think it's an overall decline in morality across the board? | ||
| That they both don't have the same underlying principles? | ||
| I think that's been going on for a long time. | ||
| Yeah, I agree. | ||
| But I think it's getting worse over time. | ||
| And I think I don't remember politics. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| 10-15 years ago being this heated, this violent. | ||
| Politics has gotten pretty extreme. | ||
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I agree about politics. | |
| The level of divisiveness has increased significantly. | ||
| There was a time where in the U.S. you could say... | ||
| I don't really pay attention to politics. | ||
| And there wasn't the stigma of you being a bad person for it, right? | ||
| Because nowadays, if you say, I don't really pay attention to politics, people are like, how can you not pay attention when there is a femicide going on in the gongo? | ||
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Oh, even more. | |
| No, you voted for Trump. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| That's another one. | ||
| Exactly. It's like a Kafka trap. | ||
| If you say, oh, I don't pay attention, well, then that's confirmation that you're a Trumper or whatever. | ||
| So I do think that that's a new thing, but I don't think that it's that politics is... | ||
| What is that? | ||
| I was passing notes earlier. | ||
| We're going to go to this story, which is actually some good news. | ||
| The U.S. is withdrawing hundreds of troops from Syria, from the New York Times. | ||
| The end of the Assad era has reduced some threats, but the Islamic State has shown renewed strength in the country. | ||
| Well, that's because the Islamic State is now the people in charge. | ||
| They won. | ||
| I think it's a good idea to get Americans out of harm's way over there. | ||
| Sure. The United States has started drawing down hundreds of troops from northern Syria in a reflection of the shifting security environment in the country since the fall of President Bashar al-Assad in December, but also a move that carries risk. | ||
| The military is shuttering three of its eight small operating bases in the country's northeast, reducing troop levels to about 1,400 from 2,000, two senior U.S. officials said. | ||
| The bases are mission support site Green Village, MS, | ||
| Sure. Now, these guys that are in Syria, first of all, | ||
| right, this is a... | ||
| Direct contradiction to what Kamala Harris said on the campaign trail, that there was no U.S. forces in other countries. | ||
| Did she say that? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Not only did she say that, but there were guys... | ||
| I mean, it was completely BS, but there were no U.S. forces in war zones, I think was the actual... | ||
| That was a funny video. | ||
| They're like, where are we right now? | ||
| And there was a video made by some servicemen. | ||
| They're just sitting there watching, and they're like, well, where the hell are we? | ||
| Because they were overseas. | ||
| So... But anyways, this kind of pullout by the United States, these guys that are getting pulled out, these were not regular army. | ||
| These guys were combat. | ||
| They were combat guys. | ||
| They were probably most likely Green Berets working with local forces or maybe they were Delta guys doing direct action. | ||
| And now that they're not, now that Assad's not in charge, I don't know what they would be doing because the current government there is terrorists. | ||
| They were formerly ISIS. | ||
| These guys are as bad as they come. | ||
| This is not an upgrade. | ||
| Bashar al-Assad, I know there are people that say, oh, well, you know, Bashar al-Assad, he was actually much, much better. | ||
| He protected Christians and blah, blah, blah. | ||
| There is some truth to that, but he wasn't better because he was brutal and stuff, so it's just different. | ||
| He at least protected the Christians. | ||
| Yeah, but new boss, same as the old boss. | ||
| So now they're going after Christians, but they were going after everybody before, too. | ||
| But it is good to see that the Trump administration still wants to do more to pull back the U.S. forces from war zones. | ||
| What's this? | ||
| President Trump, however, has expressed deep skepticism about keeping any U.S. troops in the country. | ||
| At least for now, the reductions that started on Thursday are based on ground commanders'recommendations to close and consolidate bases and were approved by the Pentagon and its Central Command. | ||
| The official said, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss operational matters. | ||
| So, again, it's a good thing that the U.S. is getting out of, you know, war zones, but... | ||
| These, like, the guys that are over there, they're not dudes that are there because they don't want to be, right? | ||
| Again, when I say that they're Green Berets, they're the kind of, like, Tier 1 kind of dudes, they're Tier 1 guys and probably support. | ||
| And, like, those guys are the kind of guys that are like, yo, put me in coach. | ||
| I joined the army because I want to fight bad guys. | ||
| Point me at the bad guys. | ||
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Well, what are they doing there right now? | |
| Do we have any idea? | ||
| No, and I think that's part of their job. | ||
| There's some intelligence gathering going on and whatever, but bring them home. | ||
| We've had people in Syria for a long time. | ||
| Yeah. Yeah. | ||
| I mean, so do you guys have a sense that it's a good thing or a bad thing? | ||
| I mean, it really depends on what your perspective is, right? | ||
| What's your worldview? | ||
| So it's a good thing if you think that the United States should withdraw its tendrils from all over the world and come back home and bring our troops back home and be a little bit more... | ||
| America-focused and a little more isolationist. | ||
| And it's a bad thing if you are a globalist who really wants to have America's reach in every corner of the world. | ||
| Do you think that that is the sense of a globalist, or do you think that that's the sense of someone that believes that the United States should have an expansive military footprint? | ||
| Because I think that there is a difference between... | ||
| I think that the globalists and the warmongers have a lot of similarities. | ||
| They want that reach. | ||
| They want the hard power and they want the soft power to go along with it. | ||
| So, like, for example, if you're going to do soft power operations in Syria or in the Middle East, you need a place to do them from, right? | ||
| And you need to have a little hard power there to back it up. | ||
| So I think those two things go hand in hand. | ||
| What do you think, Lisa? | ||
| I think if I say what I really think, I'll get the show taken down. | ||
| But I'm definitely not in favor of sending any money over there or putting troops on the ground in excess or anything like that. | ||
| I wouldn't spend a single dime over there anymore. | ||
| However, I think... | ||
| You can't say stuff like that. | ||
| The chat goes wild. | ||
| However, I think... | ||
| Well, I really don't want any money over there at all. | ||
| Like, I don't care where. | ||
| And even Israel. | ||
| I don't want to give my money over there either. | ||
| But I really think people wildly underestimate the threat of Islam. | ||
| And they do it because of whatever reason that they wildly underestimate it. | ||
| They definitely—I've been doing that kind of stuff in England and in Brussels and all over the place. | ||
| Wildly underestimate how that can totally ruin your entire country. | ||
| If I want them all over there, let them all fight each other. | ||
| Let them all kill each other. | ||
| I don't care, right? | ||
| But I definitely think we should at least have some ears on the ground so that if they're coming over here or they're planning an attack, that we can... | ||
| What I would do is just like, boop, on the whole region. | ||
| But that's me. | ||
| So what do you... | ||
| On the whole region. | ||
| I think we can take from context what boop means. | ||
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Boop. Would you support giving asylum to Christians? | |
| Yeah. Nah! | ||
| No, no, I probably wouldn't. | ||
| No! Actually, no. | ||
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It seems to be the only reason why we would be there. | |
| They can go to neighboring Christian countries. | ||
| I don't want anybody else in here. | ||
| I want no one else in here. | ||
| I think that we should stop immigration for the next 10 years. | ||
| No more people in here. | ||
| We're done. | ||
| We're full. | ||
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There's no room at the inn. | |
| We're done. | ||
| There are no neighboring Christian countries, and that's the problem. | ||
| There's not really any neighboring Christian countries. | ||
| Israel would really be the best way. | ||
| Keep going, though. | ||
| Keep going. | ||
| Is there anywhere closer than us? | ||
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Yes. There's Europe. | |
| Europe's not crushing countries anymore. | ||
| Poland, the only place they can go is Poland. | ||
| Good for Poland. | ||
| Poland has the right idea. | ||
| Yeah, they can go somewhere else. | ||
| Don't come here. | ||
| Okay, so you made a remark about Intel, right? | ||
| A lot of times, it's my understanding that if you don't have people, human intelligence, then you really don't have much. | ||
| Now, you can do, if I understand correctly, you can do a lot with signal intelligence. | ||
| That's monitoring phone calls, monitoring the internet. | ||
| But the real payoff comes from human intelligence, that people that know people on the ground. | ||
| If you don't have people on the ground... | ||
| We didn't have intelligence in... | ||
| In Afghanistan, we didn't have a lot of intelligence assets in all kinds of places. | ||
| And because you specifically mentioned the threat of Islam, or global jihad kind of Islam, do you think that the U.S. is better served by having... | ||
| Those kind of assets? | ||
| Or do you think that it should be a full pullback? | ||
| And I think that I want to go to everybody with that. | ||
| I definitely don't. | ||
| I don't necessarily think boots on the ground, but I definitely think you should have people there. | ||
| Well, there are going to be sandals on the ground. | ||
| Yeah, I think that there should be sandals on the ground. | ||
| Some sandals on the ground. | ||
| Well, the point that I'm making is it's going to be... | ||
| Just to prevent threats that would be on the homeland. | ||
| Like, we don't need to manipulate their governments or deal with that. | ||
| If they want to hurt each other, fine. | ||
| Right? Like, you go do your thing. | ||
| Fight each other. | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| But the minute that it comes here, then that's where I have an issue. | ||
| And so we should have some intelligence on the ground to get some intel for that. | ||
| Libby, what do you think? | ||
| You know, I'm not sure. | ||
| I think it makes sense to have intelligence operations. | ||
| But I really don't know what that looks like. | ||
| And we were operating at a base in Syria that was controlled by, I think, the Assad regime previously. | ||
| So once Assad fell... | ||
| We no longer have any protection in that area, and we certainly don't have any... | ||
| Yeah, we have an aircraft carrier in the Mediterranean. | ||
| I mean, we have that, but we don't have... | ||
| We are certainly not in the good graces of the government there. | ||
| No, no, but they don't have an Air Force. | ||
| Right. Sure, but now you're talking about escalation. | ||
| Well, only if they decide they're going to attack the Americans. | ||
| So then what? | ||
| I mean, we lost people in Jordan last year at a base there, and that was a pretty weird... | ||
| They followed the drones back. | ||
| They followed the drones back. | ||
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okay yeah what do you think same here um that foreign policy is not really my thing i like to say that my my brain just kind of when we're talking about geopolitics | |
| But I will say, I think it's fair that we should have intelligence operations over there. | ||
| It's just... | ||
| So that... | ||
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Let's pull our troops out of the region, but, you know... | |
| So that impulse or that idea actually flies in the face of what most libertarians think, because everyone knows... | ||
| It's one thing to say intelligence, right? | ||
| But then once you say the CIA, then libertarians are like, what? | ||
| That's what intelligence is. | ||
| It is CIA. | ||
| It is... | ||
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Well, I don't want to be over there doing regime change and, you know, using USAID. | |
| Have you heard Mike Benz talk, right? | ||
| Yes. Okay, the way that he describes it, I think, is extremely useful. | ||
| Regime change happens by the military. | ||
| CIA doesn't do regime change. | ||
| As much as people want to think they do, they'll do influence operations. | ||
| They will do things like trying to help people that are friendly to the United States gain influence and stuff. | ||
| But if they want to do regime change, it takes the U.S. military because the U.S. military has to actually... | ||
| Usually destroy the military of the existing... | ||
| Or unless you can get... | ||
| I'm pretty sure CIA has some... | ||
| So you're talking about CIA ground branch, but they work in conjunction with Green Berets, and they would work in conjunction possibly with Delta, but definitely with Green Berets. | ||
| Green Berets go in and they teach local assets how to fight. | ||
| CIA ground branch would be the guys that are working with... | ||
| They definitely had secret operations in the CIA, but they were physically harming people. | ||
| But that's not large-scale... | ||
| kind of stuff. | ||
| Like, when you talk about Max Og V... | ||
| Well, if you just assassinate somebody. | ||
| But if you're talking about, like, Max Og V, right? | ||
| The guys that were in Cambodia, in Vietnam, they were in the army. | ||
| They weren't CIA guys. | ||
| They were working in conjunction with CIA, but they were the army. | ||
| They were... | ||
| They had some... | ||
| Like, CIA did, like, the plane flights and stuff, but they were military-trained and stuff like that. | ||
| But that's the thing. | ||
| You run into, you know... | ||
| Whether it be just human intelligence and stuff like that, but you run into the people that are like, whoa, CIA shouldn't be in there. | ||
| Well, that's what CIA does. | ||
| Intelligence, you know? | ||
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I don't think we should be trying to whip up support for or against certain people in power over there. | |
| I just think we should monitor for threats against the United States. | ||
| I think that's fairly consistent. | ||
| We should defend ourselves. | ||
| I have nothing else to say. | ||
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I'm fine. | |
| I said a lot. | ||
| I said good. | ||
| There's one more thing that I want to talk about real quick. | ||
| Where is it? | ||
| So, we didn't really talk about this one here. | ||
| Again, from the post-millennial, Trump opted for talks with Iran on nuclear deal rather than Israeli-led strikes. | ||
| Which, again, points to the idea that Donald Trump is actually pro-peace. | ||
| And I think that's something that we all kind of agree on is good. | ||
| From the Postmillennial, President Donald Trump opted to engage in diplomatic talks with Iran on a nuclear deal rather than go ahead with Israeli proposed strikes on the nation. | ||
| Officials with the Trump administration who spoke with The New York Times indicated that while Israeli President Benjamin Netanyahu was interested in attacking Iran, Trump told him during their White House meeting that he would instead begin talks. | ||
| Netanyahu had other ideas on how to deal with Iran, namely engaging U.S. military support to attack Iran. | ||
| And his timeline was to start the whole thing as soon as May. | ||
| Trump, The Times reported, made his decision after months of internal debate over whether to pursue diplomacy or support Israel in seeking to set back Iran's ability to build a bomb at a time when Iran has been weakened militarily and economically. | ||
| So are we kind of all in agreement that that's the proper? | ||
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Yeah, I mean, when he... | |
| When he makes decisions like this, I feel vindicated in my vote for him, you know? | ||
| And I'm sure a lot of other libertarians, that's the scary word, I'm sure a lot of other libertarians feel the same way, you know? | ||
| I agree. | ||
| I like this. | ||
| I like that. | ||
| I don't want to be, like, striking Iran. | ||
| I do think, though, that we should have it, like, before, like I said, with the Poso thing, like, it should be... | ||
| They should think in their mind that it's certainly an option. | ||
| Like, I think part of the reason that there were no new wars and things like that under Trump is because everybody was scared of him thinking that he's so unhinged that he may push that button at any time, and that really protected us. | ||
| So if they're looking at us and saying, well, the American people will never support them bombing Iran, right? | ||
| Okay, well then that doesn't give him as much leverage as he needs. | ||
| I don't want him to do it, right? | ||
| But I also want it to be at least a negotiating tool in his belt to use. | ||
| But no, I don't think it would be fruitful in the end, and I think it's not our issue. | ||
| So when you say you don't think it'd be fruitful, are you saying that the United States wouldn't be able to stop Iran's nuclear program? | ||
| No, I just think that nobody wants mass destruction here. | ||
| And it's Israel's problem. | ||
| More than it's our problem. | ||
| It's not just Israel's problem. | ||
| I think it's probably a Muslim. | ||
| It's Saudi Arabia's problem, too. | ||
| But it's not our problem. | ||
| It doesn't have to be our problem. | ||
| Listen, Saudi Arabia is the Sunni Muslims and Iran Shia Muslims. | ||
| They don't like each other at all. | ||
| And as much as Israel gets the focus, there are a lot of people in Saudi Arabia that are like, yo, if you go and strike Iran, we will be pumped. | ||
| But Iran backs... | ||
| Which one is Iran? | ||
| Sunni or Shia? | ||
| You just said it. | ||
| Right. So Iran also backs the Sunnis when it's the Houthis or the Hezbollah or Hamas or whatever. | ||
| Right. But they also back Hamas and Hamas is not Shia. | ||
| Or whichever one Iran isn't. | ||
| Hamas doesn't... | ||
| Iran doesn't care who they're backing so long as they're Muslim going after Israel. | ||
| When it comes to going after Israel. | ||
| When it comes to this, I think that it makes a lot of sense for the president to be engaging in talks with Iran to try and limit their nuclear program. | ||
| This has been a problem for America for years and years. | ||
| And it's a problem because... | ||
| If Iran has a nuclear weapon, then suddenly they're attacking our only ally in the region, and then suddenly America's on the hook. | ||
| Again, I really do think that the Saudis are an ally. | ||
| Are they not? | ||
| Well, they are kind of, but they're also not a democracy. | ||
| Israel's the only democracy in the Middle East. | ||
| If they could get rid of... | ||
| Like, if they could get rid of infidels all across the board, most times most of them would. | ||
| So they're not really our friends. | ||
| They're kind of our friends when they need us until it gets to the point, until it gets to the point where they've taken over so much control of, I don't want to say all of Europe, because we've got every mayor in freaking England, you know, and they finally take over it all, that they're in control of these nuclear arsenals and everywhere else, | ||
| and then they will not be our friend anymore. | ||
| Okay. You were going to say, Libby? | ||
| Yeah, I think that the issue of Iran's nuclear situation has been a problem for a really long time. | ||
| I think it really behooves us to try and keep that whole situation in line. | ||
| So to the extent that Trump can do that, I think that's great. | ||
| And I don't think backing Israel in attacks on Iran would attain the goal that he's looking for. | ||
| It's my sense that Israel wants the U.S. to do it. | ||
| Well, that's what Netanyahu was saying. | ||
| They were not going to go ahead and do this without the backing of the U.S. because they would not only need the U.S.'s—they said that they would need the U.S.'s help because they would need Iran to know that the U.S. had their back. | ||
| And so without the U.S. having Israel's back, they're not going to do something like this. | ||
| It's my sense that Israel— Israel wants the US to back them and say, hey, you know, we'll make sure that should they strike back or something, we're going to do something. | ||
| But at the same time, I also think that Israel has made it very clear that they will go move on their own if they believe that Iran gets a nuclear weapon. | ||
| Well, I mean, look, I'm not sure as to what Iran will do with a nuclear weapon, but they allude to the idea that they would nuke. | ||
| Israel is 100% has made it completely clear that they will use the nuclear weapon that they may or may not have because they've never come out and said they have nuclear weapons but they've made it clear that they will strike Iran before they will allow Iran to have a nuclear weapon. | ||
| Now the question that I'm asking is Do you guys think that Israel is bluffing, or do you think that Israel will act independently of the United States should they believe that Iran is on the cusp of getting a nuclear weapon? | ||
| A lot of people are turning on Israel, and if they do not have the U.S. support, they will not do it. | ||
| Libby, what do you think? | ||
| Yeah, I don't think they're going to go ahead without American support. | ||
| Even if that means Iran gets a nuclear weapon? | ||
| I don't think that America will let around get a nuclear weapon. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| The U.S. has Israel's back all the way up to that point. | ||
| So it's the consensus here that... | ||
| The United States will act to... | ||
| We're women. | ||
| Well, I'm asking a question. | ||
| Oh my goodness. | ||
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Foreign policy? | |
| So I just want to make sure I understand you. | ||
| It's your consensus that the United States is likely to act before Israel needs to, right? | ||
| Because I think everyone here kind of says, yes, Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon, right? | ||
| No. I don't want anybody else to have nuclear weapons. | ||
| We should be done with that. | ||
| That's why we had the Budapest memo in 1992 to get rid of the nuclear weapons in Ukraine. | ||
| That didn't actually go so great for us as it turns out. | ||
| No. Clearly. | ||
| I think we're going to go to Super Chats, right? | ||
| It's about that time. | ||
| They're going to horrify me. | ||
| I don't think they will. | ||
| I think they'll be fine. | ||
| All right, so smash the like button. | ||
| I was a little behaved today, right? | ||
| You were just the right amount of misbehaving. | ||
| I was a little more behaved than usual. | ||
| Yeah, smash the like button, share the show with your friends, go to rumble.com and become a member, and you can join us in the after show. | ||
| But right now, we're going to go ahead and read your super chat. | ||
| And we're going to start with, let's see, Konashi says first, yes, you are. | ||
| Shane H. Wilder says, Our dear Jessica, Timcast graphical extraordinaire's dog Tank, is undergoing intestinal surgery. | ||
| There is a give, send, go at Save Tank the Dog. | ||
| So if you have some money and you could give a little bit to the Give, Send, Go to save Tank. | ||
| And he had some complications too overnight. | ||
| So it's pretty touch and go. | ||
| So yeah, it's not just like surgery. | ||
| It's like he's pretty touch and go. | ||
| Yeah, so if you can help, we would appreciate it. | ||
| Let's see. | ||
| Dave Bricken says, Happy belated born on Phil. | ||
| Congratulations on your noon, soon-to-be child. | ||
| May he, she grow strong and intelligent. | ||
| He will be an asset to society, I'm sure, and I thank you very much for the kudos. | ||
| You're going to be an old man, Dad. | ||
| I'm comfortable with that. | ||
| Let me tell you how exhausting it is. | ||
| The older you get, the more tired you get. | ||
| Well, you know, look, I'm the age that I am, and I can't do anything about it. | ||
| You're active. | ||
| I had my son when I was old, and, you know. | ||
| Now I'm way older. | ||
| I was married once and my ex-wife couldn't have kids, so this is what I got. | ||
| Just have tons of babies, who cares? | ||
| As many as possible. | ||
| Have another one next year. | ||
| Alright, so... | ||
| Hitchhiker of Texas says, way to go, Phil, way to go, Phil, on the panel. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Angry Marsupial says, Phil, no offense, you are objectively the least attractive person on the panel tonight. | ||
| I'd say you're the most aggressive, but, you know, Philly and all. | ||
| See? And yes, you're right, I am the least attractive. | ||
| I'm working on it. | ||
| I keep saying that I'm trying to work on being less masculine, more feminine. | ||
| It just comes out. | ||
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I completely understand this struggle. | |
| It just comes out, yeah. | ||
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I just really figure if I do enough yoga, then we'll be so zen and we'll be such good people. | |
| The effing saddle trip says, I hope Phil is having fun on ovary cast. | ||
| Oh, let's see here. | ||
| Bike Curious George, my wife and I are having our first child, a girl, on the way, and we haven't been able to agree on any names. | ||
| Seeing Libby cast earlier, I proposed the name Libby to my wife, and she loves it. | ||
| I hope Libby doesn't mind. | ||
| Oh, that's so sweet! | ||
| You know, my mom wanted to name me Libby, and my dad was against it, and he said she needs a real name, so my actual name is Elizabeth. | ||
| I love the name Elizabeth, but it's part of my first name. | ||
| Everyone calls me... | ||
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Lisa Elizabeth. | |
| Yeah, everyone calls me Libby and has for my whole life, but... | ||
| Libby's great. | ||
| I can always have an official name if I need to. | ||
| Uh... MiniMat400 says, Hey, Phil, welcome to the Viewcast tonight. | ||
| Loving this discourse in action. | ||
| I knew they were gonna say... | ||
| Wait, which one of us is Whoopi Goldberg? | ||
| Oh, none of you. | ||
| Look at Phil looking right at me. | ||
| None of you. | ||
| None of you are Whoopi Goldberg. | ||
| It's Phil. | ||
| Wait a minute, what? | ||
| I hear I'm being nice. | ||
| Libby just tosses me right under the bus. | ||
| Let's see here. | ||
| BigHookaPGH says, Don't make the black kids angry by Colin Flaherty. | ||
| Explains why this is happening. | ||
| Also, Scott Adams is right. | ||
| That's a little spicy, huh? | ||
| That's probably my fault. | ||
| Well, you know, you draw in the undesirables, apparently. | ||
| Remember that I just... | ||
| Talk truth stuff. | ||
| Hitchhiker Fox says there is no intelligence in the intelligent community. | ||
| I don't know if I'd agree with that. | ||
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There's some pretty smart people in the intelligent community. | |
| They get some big brains. | ||
| Let's see here. | ||
| Not a bot says we already know more about this shooter than the Elephant Man shooter who almost got Trump in Pennsylvania. | ||
| That is... | ||
| That is true. | ||
| It's kind of funny that he calls him the Elephant Man shooter because he kind of did look like the Elephant Man. | ||
| Do you guys have any sense that the... | ||
| That was a really weird op and it was definitely an inside job. | ||
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I don't care. | |
| Something was weird about that. | ||
| Yeah, or else we'd know more about it. | ||
| He'd wiped his whole house like it was all clean and sterilized and there was missing silverware. | ||
| It's very bizarre. | ||
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It's giving the Vegas shooter from years ago where they just... | |
| It's like no follow-up? | ||
| Are you kidding? | ||
| Yeah. I don't know. | ||
| It is weird. | ||
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They don't want us to know something. | |
| Isn't that like the deadliest mass shooting in American history? | ||
| Yeah. The Vegas one? | ||
| Yeah. We had nothing about that either. | ||
| No. I... | ||
| I don't... | ||
| This is what the CIA should not be doing. | ||
| Definitely not. | ||
| I don't think that's... | ||
| I don't think CIA did that. | ||
| But... I think they have a hand in everything. | ||
| Oh, I don't. | ||
| I think they have a hand in a way more than you think we do. | ||
| Clowns in action? | ||
| No. No. | ||
| No. They... | ||
| They're... It's my opinion that they are far more the Bay of Pigs CIA than the CIA that people imagine does amazing things. | ||
| It takes a lot to have successful operations that people think they do. | ||
| Look at how many times they tried to kill Castro. | ||
| And blew it every time. | ||
| Over and over and over and over. | ||
| They also tried to shoot JFK a number of times too and they finally got it right. | ||
| I don't know that that's true either. | ||
| There was reports of other attempts prior to that in multiple locations in Florida, in Chicago, and other places. | ||
| Well, maybe. | ||
| So, I don't have any... | ||
| I have no sense of that because I haven't heard it. | ||
| That's the first time I've ever heard it. | ||
| I went on a rabbit hole down that too recently. | ||
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Like I said, I've been down rabbit holes. | |
| I'm being the stay-at-home mom thing. | ||
| Think about how they behaved regarding Castro who was only 90 miles off. | ||
| It's communists in our backyard. | ||
| They had nuclear weapons aimed at D.C. There was as much motivation as you could possibly get for the CIA to take Castro out, and he just lived forever, and there's still communists down there. | ||
| So I do think that they have been successful in the past, but I think largely they are the clowns in action CIA as opposed to the big, bad. | ||
| That's comforting. | ||
| Pardon me? | ||
| It's comforting. | ||
| Maybe. Let's see. | ||
| Kane Abel says, I saw horror movies as a little kid and up to my old age. | ||
| I don't think, is what he's probably said, I don't think gore is the problem. | ||
| I think they are not raised by parents, mostly don't have a father figure in their lives. | ||
| I mean, that's the... | ||
| Continued given narrative? | ||
| Is that the sense that you guys have? | ||
| That it's all family? | ||
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No, it can't be. | |
| Well, here's... | ||
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No, it's like people have to come from two-parent households, right? | |
| Being a teenager sucks. | ||
| Like, it just sucks. | ||
| You ask a lot of questions about the world. | ||
| You feel awkward in your body. | ||
| You go online. | ||
| You stumble down a rabbit hole through gore. | ||
| I'm not saying that's, like, the only thing that does it, but... | ||
| Yes, but that's the secondary thing because they're not getting the proper attention, stimulus, and things like that from their parents at home. | ||
| Or if it's one parent, if it's parents that are absent, if it's parents giving them iPads instead of books to read or taking them out to the playground or hiking or whatever. | ||
| And so that is the foundation that they don't have this family, they don't have God, they don't have this structure or this morality. | ||
| And then they fall into those things. | ||
| And then comes the rap or then comes the gore. | ||
| But it is not the... | ||
| Original problem. | ||
| It's like... | ||
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They go asking questions. | |
| It's the icing on the cake type of thing. | ||
| That's what I think. | ||
| Soapy Anima says, check out the Boonies HQ Discord. | ||
| We're trying to grow the community. | ||
| And then, as an actual follow-up to this one, Hal Gailey says, gore is one thing, malice and sadism another. | ||
| Exposure is secondary to identifying with it. | ||
| There are signs of such tendencies long before it erupts. | ||
| So... It sounds like he's saying that the behaviors are kind of built in and that there are things that may help bring it out, but there are people that are predisposed to it. | ||
| This has been around forever. | ||
| Did you guys read Marquis de Sade? | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| Julia? You know, this stuff has been around for a while, right? | ||
| But... Not to mention all the rest of French literature. | ||
| Oof! But in general, I remember reading that. | ||
| I was like, this is... | ||
| A lot. | ||
| Okay. But, like, you have to have that emptiness that you're kind of filling with some radical stuff to, like, because I read it. | ||
| I'm not out there doing any of that, right? | ||
| But other kids or other people who may not have some stronger foundation, I don't even say I'm perfect. | ||
| I could have easily fell into any stuff. | ||
| But, like, it's really that lack of moral foundation, I think, that... | ||
| Is the root cause, and that is just an add-on, or they may have some tendencies, and without proper guidance and access to these things, it metastasizes. | ||
| And there's just bad people. | ||
| People talk about nature versus nurture, and obviously it's both. | ||
| Obviously it's both. | ||
| But the uptick has to be explained. | ||
| I don't even know if it's an uptick. | ||
| I think it's just that we are existing now, and so we look at everything that is happening now as the ultimate, you know, crux of history. | ||
| And it just isn't. | ||
| There's also the availability heuristic, right? | ||
| There was way more violence in... | ||
| The Middle Ages than there is now. | ||
| There was way more violence in the early Americas than there is now. | ||
| There was child sacrifice. | ||
| Sure. And maybe we are. | ||
| And maybe we're exactly the same as the Crusaders. | ||
| You know, when you look at letters home from war from the Crusades and you look at letters home from Civil War, like, they're the same letters. | ||
| It's the same. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Human beings haven't changed very much. | ||
| We just have more stuff. | ||
| And in a lot of ways, we are extremely less violent than we used to be. | ||
| And that's why every incidence of violence strikes us so profoundly. | ||
| These things didn't used to be profound, like your sister would get raped and your cousin would get murdered and there'd be duels. | ||
| We didn't have boys thinking they were girls and we didn't have the level of any of this. | ||
| Sure, so now we have this weird social stuff as well, but Alexander Hamilton's son literally died in a duel over dishonor. | ||
| I like that. | ||
| Alexander Hamilton fought in a duel over dishonor and with Aaron Burr, and he was killed as well. | ||
| So we've had this kind of violence, and it's been much more severe for most of human history. | ||
| We're in a shockingly peaceful era, but we see every incidence of violence as some horror because it interrupts our peaceful existence. | ||
| But we have a peaceful existence, right? | ||
| I mean, we don't have turrets on our homes. | ||
| We're not like fighting our neighbors. | ||
| Even the Hatfields and the McCoys, like that was a long time ago. | ||
| Here we are in West Virginia. | ||
| So, you know, you talk about the feud. | ||
| But anyway. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I mean, I've had more. | ||
| I just listed a ton of them the other day, like on my Twitter. | ||
| Like all the crimes me and my family have been like a victim of, right? | ||
| It's multiples, right? | ||
| Like, it's not tens. | ||
| It's, like, twenties, right? | ||
| And that may not be everybody in the United States' existence. | ||
| And I understand that crime happens more, but I don't think, like, one family should have, over their lifetime, 50 incidents of actual crime and some violent crime on their family. | ||
| But urban, and I think you're right. | ||
| But urban areas have literally always been more violent. | ||
| I mean, the Middle Ages. | ||
| In the Middle Ages in Europe, there have always been more violent crimes with more populations. | ||
| Of course, but it's not like... | ||
| And that's back when you would die from an ingrown toenail. | ||
| It's not like it's... | ||
| I know so many people that have been victims of crimes, and some don't even get reported, right? | ||
| I remember my grandparents living in Philadelphia, my parents living in Philadelphia, and... | ||
| There is definitely a different feeling. | ||
| There's definitely an uptick in these things. | ||
| These things didn't happen to my grandmother. | ||
| She lived in Port Richmond. | ||
| It didn't happen to them. | ||
| 60 years ago, it didn't. | ||
| It didn't. | ||
| And so, yes, I can understand that, like, okay, in the grand scheme of things, in this time period, that it's less than, you know, when there were barbarians and whatever, but there is something going on. | ||
| There's a spiritual warfare going on. | ||
| There is some humanity loss, some no respect for life or respect or morals or any of that. | ||
| There is that uptick, and I just feel like... | ||
| If you're denying that, not that you're excusing it away, but you have to really see that there is a problem here. | ||
| That's all. | ||
| Alright, well... | ||
| Call Sign Ewok says, Sorry Libby, you're wrong about MS-13. | ||
| It was started by El Salvadorian refugee teenagers who were getting it beat up by others' local gangs. | ||
| The teens were into Black Sabbath and made the devil horns part of their gangsta. | ||
| I thought it came to be in a prison. | ||
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Well, I don't think they were violent at first, because when I was reading up on this earlier, in the 80s, some El Salvadorian teens who had escaped the Civil War back home... | |
| We're just like hanging out, drinking, smoking, listening to heavy metal, and then eventually needed to start defending themselves. | ||
| And then in the 90s, this guy who had been trained by Green Berets came over and militarized everybody, you know? | ||
| Well, I was half right, because it did back of origin in Los Angeles. | ||
| Okay. Yeah. | ||
| New guys don't haze me. | ||
| Where'd it go? | ||
| NewGuysDon'tHazeMe says Rip Phil if he says calm down at all during this episode. | ||
| I'll tell Lisa to calm down. | ||
| Yeah, he can tell me that. | ||
| Without any fear. | ||
| Yeah, no. | ||
| I don't know about these two, but Lisa. | ||
| Yeah, we're good. | ||
| Let's see here. | ||
| Relax, Lisa. | ||
| Relax. Settle down. | ||
| I think that's funny, actually. | ||
| Cat318 says What has happened to these kids in Texas? | ||
| The family of Carmelo Anthony has taken the money raised for his kids' defense and bought cars in 800K houses. | ||
| Okay, I'm going to kind of defend this kid. | ||
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That didn't happen. | |
| Yeah, they didn't actually buy an $800,000 house. | ||
| The house they're renting, and it is a nice house, but they're renting the house so that way they have a place that is not where they used to live because of all the... | ||
| Publicity surrounding the trial and stuff. | ||
| And they were already in a nice house from what I understand. | ||
| He already owned a nice house. | ||
| They're renting this house. | ||
| They're not from the hood, right? | ||
| These are suburban kids. | ||
| He does finance for a car dealership or something, but the mom's unemployed. | ||
| But apparently they still had like a $900,000 house. | ||
| I think was originally what they had. | ||
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Yes, and also they haven't been able to touch their donations yet. | |
| So I think it's just the internet telephone game. | ||
| Everyone was speculating, and so then it became fact. | ||
| Like when when the donations go in, they should be set up for legal defense to where they're only allowed to be paid out to the legal funds and not to. | ||
| So it doesn't look like, you know, people are getting rich on these donations. | ||
| It should only be able to go to the legal defense and then. | ||
| I don't think that the people that are donating care. | ||
| No, they don't. | ||
| They don't care at all. | ||
| No, they don't. | ||
| But I'm talking about, like, in the grand scheme of, like, what would be morally ethical, you shouldn't, like, if you're raising funds after... | ||
| You killed somebody, you shouldn't be able to use it on anything, but whatever. | ||
| What are you saying? | ||
| Nothing. I'll get a weird comment. | ||
| I'll tell you after. | ||
| Eric Bloodak says, so did anyone notice the classified doc released by the DNI that shows federal classification of gun owners as terrorists? | ||
| Check out the S2's Y report. | ||
| Yes, I did. | ||
| I actually retweeted it and retweeted a bunch of tweets about it. | ||
| Essentially, this isn't really news, though. | ||
| If you paid attention to these kind of things, you knew during the Biden administration, the Biden administration looked at gun owners as potential threats. | ||
| The Democrats more broadly want to abolish the Second Amendment and take everyone's guns. | ||
| I don't care how many times they say we respect the Second Amendment, but they don't at all. | ||
| They want to take all. | ||
| They want to get rid of. | ||
| Right now, they're going after semi-automatic. | ||
| In Colorado, there's a bill that's going to get rid of semi-automatic gas-operated rifles, which is... | ||
| Almost every semi-automatic rifle, they want to get rid of semi-autos because, well, look at what happened in Afghanistan. | ||
| The reason that the United States was never able to really subdue Afghanistan is because of rifles. | ||
| The reason that the U.S. was never able to subdue Vietnam is because of rifles. | ||
| Valkyrie... 0010 says, the 2A is meant to prevent the government from having a monopoly on violence for this reason. | ||
| Your idea that we only have the hope of legal recourse. | ||
| Aww. You know, the YouTube app just crashed, so I couldn't finish that. | ||
| So, let's see. | ||
| We got a private text message from James Klug that said... | ||
| For F's sake, move on from foreign policy. | ||
| James, hush. | ||
| Calm down, James. | ||
| Let's see. | ||
| Where'd it go? | ||
| Where'd it go? | ||
| The 2A is meant to prevent the government from having a monopoly on violence for this reason. | ||
| Your idea that we only have the hope of legal recourse is the problem. | ||
| The government must fear armed recourse if we are to be a free people. | ||
| Look, man, there are some things you can't say on YouTube. | ||
| And so with that we go to Raven Gray. | ||
| The largest extortion racket is pre-industrial Japan was conducted Buddhist monks. | ||
| Most people presuppose Buddhism equals pacifism. | ||
| I have absolutely no idea about that. | ||
| Did anybody bring up Buddhism? | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| I didn't think so either. | ||
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We brought up yoga. | |
| Which I said was satanic. | ||
| So, Cain Abel says, you don't need courts to tell if illegals should be deported. | ||
| You just need to check if they're citizens or not, if not, deport. | ||
| That's where I'm at, man. | ||
| Look, there are at least 10 million illegals, probably 15 or 20 million illegals that came in in the Biden administration because Joe Biden specifically said he told them to break the law. | ||
| Right? So this administration trying to fix the lawlessness of previous administrations means that we're going to have to do some things that the left isn't going to like. | ||
| But guess what? | ||
| The good news is the left isn't going to like anything that Trump does. | ||
| So it doesn't matter. | ||
| They're going to act like this. | ||
| They're going to act like it's the end of the world no matter what he does. | ||
| It's better for America if they just start rounding up the illegals and sending them home. | ||
| Let's see. | ||
| Use the federal document cave for prisons. | ||
| I mean, just file them? | ||
| Put them in the filing cabinets, you know, the caves that they had, the documents that Doge found. | ||
| If you wanted people to retire, there were only so many people that could retire because they had to use the cave to file the stuff. | ||
| So I guess we're just going to start filing criminals now. | ||
|
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Oh my gosh. | |
| Let's see. | ||
| Last one here. | ||
| War pig snore. | ||
| No man wants to hear a bunch of women yapping about politics when they can't get drafted. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| Kind of agree. | ||
| Calm down. | ||
| I'm fine. | ||
| It's funny because somebody was like, Lisa wants everybody to stay home and make babies and here she is yapping and talking to everybody. | ||
| Yeah, true. | ||
| Like, I know. | ||
| I'm very aware of my hypocrisy here. | ||
| Alright, I told you. | ||
| You were going to have plenty to say. | ||
| I really didn't think I was going to have anything to say. | ||
| Of course you didn't think that, but you don't think that you have much to say anytime. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Alright, smash the like button. | ||
| Share the show with your friends. | ||
| Head on over to Rumble.com and become a member and you can join us in that after show. | ||
| You can also go to TimCast.com And then we'll have a little preview, | ||
| I believe. | ||
| And then we'll go on over to the callers from the Discord. | ||
| So, Maggie, you want to shout anything out? | ||
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Yeah, go follow me on X at Maggie Moda and on YouTube at Undoctrination. | |
| Thank you guys so much for having me today. | ||
| Come on, come on, come on. | ||
| Tomorrow, watch The Culture War. | ||
| We're moving the time again. | ||
| It will be going forward 12 to 12 p.m. to 2 p.m. | ||
| Tomorrow we have on... | ||
| Is Angry Cops coming? | ||
| Angry Cops. | ||
| Richard, I love you. | ||
| Andrew Branca. | ||
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Uh-huh. | |
| Awesome. That's the law of self-defense on Twitter, right? | ||
| Correct. And the guy from The Gifts and Go, Jacob Wells. | ||
| Awesome. So we're going to be talking all about this case. | ||
| Tim will be talking about if it's self-defense or not. | ||
| I wish that I was going to be here. | ||
| I would definitely come if I wasn't going to be here. | ||
| It's going to be very interesting for sure. | ||
| So tune into that if you care what I have to say. | ||
| I don't really tweet all the time, but if you want to follow me, it's Lisa Elizabeth on Twitter. | ||
| They're spicy. | ||
| You should follow her. | ||
| Libby! They're rare. | ||
| I'm Libby Emmons with The Post Millennial. | ||
| You can check out my work at Libby Emmons on Twitter or see what we're doing at thepostmillennial.com or humanevents.com. | ||
| And if you want to subscribe to my channel, Libby's putting in the work. | ||
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She is. | |
| Let's go. | ||
| She's awesome. | ||
| I am PhilThatRemainsOnTwix and I'm PhilThatRemainsOfficial on Instagram. | ||
| You can follow me there. | ||
| So check out the Culture Award tomorrow and check out IRL tomorrow night. | ||
| We will see you then. | ||
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We will see you then. | |
| Thank you. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| you. Thank you. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| The girls want to talk about Katy Perry. | ||
| Yeah. I don't know what to say. | ||
| Other than she's not actually an astronaut. | ||
| Dude, I have to say this. | ||
| She's definitely not an astronaut. | ||
| I had so much fun talking about this with Laura Trump and Kay Smythe the other day on Laura Trump's show. | ||
| Kay Smythe is great. | ||
| We had so much fun. | ||
| I just met her the other day on Zoom with Laura. | ||
| And we had so much fun talking about Katy Perry. | ||
| And we were all like, girl, you're not an astronaut. | ||
| And where's your helmet? | ||
| Why are you all like wearing flowing hair and zero gravity? | ||
| What is the matter with you people? | ||
| I can't think of a worse. | ||
| I said this earlier. | ||
| Like, it would be my own personal hell to be stuck in space with four women and four women like that. | ||
| I would die. | ||
| I would die up there. | ||
| Yeah, horrible. | ||
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My actual take is I would never get into a rocket ship that does not have a man inside of it. | |
| Like, terrifying nightmare scenario. | ||
| Well, they didn't have to press any buttons or do anything. | ||
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They didn't have to press any buttons, though. | |
| So you would not choose the bear, then? | ||
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No, I would not choose the bear. | |
| But yeah, I don't think I would have confidence. | ||
| I wouldn't choose the bear either, and I would just hope he was a cute guy. | ||
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However, I think the reactions to this are overblown. | |
| And while, yes, they're doing this cringe girl boss nonsense, I think the real message here is that even a bunch of female celebrities... | ||
| That have no business being in a rocket ship can do it, which means all of us can do it. | ||
| Didn't they all pay? | ||
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If we have the money to. | |
| Didn't they all pay? | ||
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I think this is great. | |
| Do you have any desire to go to space? | ||
| I think it's great. | ||
| I used to really want to go to space, and I wanted to be an astronaut, and I thought that would be really cool. | ||
| You're smart enough to do it. | ||
| And I'd want to, like, travel around the galaxy. | ||
| And then I realized how long it would take and how you wouldn't really come home. | ||
| And also, I would miss, like, sunlight and stuff. | ||
| And I don't like... | ||
| That space ice cream that you could get at the Franklin Institute? | ||
| I don't like it. | ||
| So, I love this for a few reasons. | ||
| Most of them are lampooning it. | ||
| And I just don't want to pee in a tube. | ||
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Wait, do you have to pee in a tube? | |
| Yeah. Otherwise, there'd be drops of pee everywhere. | ||
| It'd be horrible. | ||
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I'm sorry, no. | |
| Never mind how NASA sent thousands of tampons up there in the space station just so that they'd be available. | ||
|
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That's hilarious. | |
| Having your period in space seems really bad. | ||
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Oh my god, yeah. | |
| No, thank you. | ||
| But this kind of little... | ||
| Doesn't gravity have an effect on your period? | ||
| How the fuck do I know? | ||
| Probably. I mean, sure, because of the moon, and the moon, and the tides, and whatever. | ||
| I don't mean on your cycle. | ||
| I mean, like, on the function of your body. | ||
| I think it would still hurt, and now you'd be in space, and you'd be bleeding in space. | ||
| Oh my god, why are we talking about racist? | ||
| That'd be horrible. | ||
| She's the one who brought up too much. | ||
| Anyways, okay, so the reason I think this is good. | ||
| The reason I think this is good is because it was actually, like, all the work was done by men. | ||
| And women took the credit. | ||
| And I think that that's emblematic of reality and I think is hilarious. | ||
| Can we just say that like going in submarines and paying to go in submarines and paying to go in space are like ridiculous ideas and like just like why does everybody need to be extraordinary? | ||
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I love it. | |
| I mean it's like speeding down the highway like that shit's fun. | ||
| Can't we just like find some like amazingness in like the... | ||
| Not everybody's going to be extraordinary. | ||
| That's why you need extraordinary Katy Perry to go to space. | ||
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It's like Apollonian. | |
| You're quite literally reaching for the stars. | ||
| I think I want American culture to aim for... | ||
| For New Heights, you know, I don't want us to start backtracking, which we were doing with our space programs. | ||
| Yeah, you have all these people like for years being like, why do we need to go to space when there's people hungry on Earth? | ||
| And it's like, because you need dreams. | ||
| You need to reach for stars. | ||
| And one thing I will say that I think is pretty damn cool is... | ||
| We're the only country on Earth with not one but two private space companies. | ||
| That means NASA was insanely successful. | ||
| What an amazing project NASA was. | ||
| And we funded that with tax dollars. | ||
| And now we have private space enterprise. | ||
| And that's cool. | ||
| And before you know it, somebody's going to be out there mining that asteroid belt. | ||
| Spicier show, please? | ||
| I don't even know what that means. | ||
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What do you want us to say? | |
| But anyway, somebody's going to be out there riding that asteroid belt, and that's going to be really cool, and we'll make it to Enceladus, the ice moon. | ||
| I mean, there's so much potential. | ||
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Do you guys think we're going to become multi-planetary? | |
| Yes. I'm so stoked. | ||
| I want that. | ||
| I can't wait. | ||
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I want to do colonization in space. | |
| Yes. I'm such a Luddite, no. | ||
| So I think that, honestly, I think that the idea of going to Mars is a good idea. | ||
| It's a good aspirational idea. | ||
| I honestly think that we should have more space stations and an outpost on the moon that people inhabit first. | ||
| I'm not sure why he's going to Mars first. | ||
| It's not like Mars is significantly more hospitable in the moon. | ||
| At least it has an atmosphere, doesn't it? | ||
| I mean, yeah, but it's like... | ||
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Wouldn't Venus be better? | |
| Well, Venus is all poison gases you can't get anywhere near Venus. | ||
| The pressure on the surface of Venus, you can't... | ||
| There's only been like one or two probes that have gone to Venus because as soon as they get... | ||
| They get crushed. | ||
| They get crushed or if they make it to the ground. | ||
| There's like only one or two pictures of the surface of Venus because the atmosphere is so acidic it just melts stuff. | ||
| It's not at all. | ||
| Good. You're not happening. | ||
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I've got my planets mixed up. | |
| Well, I mean, it's because Mars is the next planet out. | ||
| That's why he's doing it. | ||
| The moon is not a planet. | ||
| We already know a lot about the moon, and it's certainly not somewhere you could set up potentially a colony, although there have been a lot of books about that. | ||
| I remember this great, like, tween books that I used to read about colonies on Mars. | ||
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Have you read Ray Bradbury's The Martian Chronicles? | |
| One of my favorite books of all time. | ||
| Yeah, really cool. | ||
| I read Thomas Hardy from 1820, 1860. | ||
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I'm so old. | |
| I think all of these celebrity women who aren't in the news cycle, who are complaining, are just jealous that they weren't in space. | ||
| I don't think that's it. | ||
| I think it's weird and it's cringe. | ||
| I don't think it's weird. | ||
| I'm definitely not jealous. | ||
| I would tell you if I was jealous. | ||
| I mean, I think it's cringe and stupid that these ladies went to space, and I think it's probably a little bit of a waste of resources. | ||
| But I do think it's cool that we have the resources. | ||
| I do think personalized spaceflight is awesome. | ||
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Yeah. And this is showing people... | |
| And I think it's cool that we have, like, mega-billionaires who are like, I want to be a rocket man, and then they just go build rockets. | ||
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Just do it. | |
| Yeah. I did that. | ||
| I think so, too. | ||
| And I think... | ||
| I like this flight specifically because it does show people that they're capable of doing this. | ||
| There's a double meaning here. | ||
| Even the stupidest chicks can go to space. | ||
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What they're saying it means is, oh my gosh, girls can do it too. | |
| Even the dumbest ones. | ||
| Oh my gosh. | ||
| Literally, they can do it too. | ||
| You can do it. | ||
| Don't worry. | ||
| Like, look, we can put dogs into space. | ||
| I was just going to say, your dog can do it. | ||
| I'll send Charlie to space. | ||
| If you can put dogs in space, you can put celebrity women in space. | ||
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I think it's awesome. | |
| And look, there are plenty of capable female astronauts that are actually smart and actually talented, these notwithstanding. | ||
| But we're going to go ahead and wrap this up and go to your calls. | ||
| Got to take callers. | ||
| Yeah, you can go to TimCast.com and become a member there, and you will be able to call in and ask questions of us and the guests yourself. | ||
| So... What? | ||
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We're in a gate right now. | |
| In a gate? | ||
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We're in a gate to the chat right now. |
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