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March 27, 2025 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool

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Trump Announces 25% Tariff On ALL CARS, Canada Begins MASS LAYOFFS Over Tariffs | Timcast IRL

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tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Donald Trump has just announced an additional 25% tariff on all imported cars.
		And the corporate press says he is ratcheting up the trade war.
		This will be interesting.
		He also announced it's going to be the opening of a bunch of auto plants in the country, namely in Indiana.
		So it seems like things are working.
		We're also seeing these viral posts where liberals are getting angry because prices are coming down.
		Uh-oh.
		Gas prices are down.
		Egg prices are down.
		Come on, guys.
		Isn't this the way it's supposed to go?
		Now, Canada, we got this report that they're laying off hundreds of workers in the steel and aluminum industries because of the tariffs.
		And this is why they were whinging, because they think that they deserve to do business with us to the benefit of Canada.
		Well, Trump is saying, I want the American people to do better.
		That's what we're getting.
		So let's talk about that.
		Should be interesting.
		But also, you know, that signal story won't go away.
		There's more developments.
		But I'm going to double down on, you know, my view of this, that I think the Trump admin likely knew what they were doing for a variety of reasons.
		We've got a viral video showing a woman, a pro-Palestinian activist, having a couple guys grab her.
		We don't know exactly what's going on, but guys in hoodies grab her, saying they're the police.
		And the assumption is this is immigration picking up U.S. visa holders who are here in support of Palestinian causes.
		That story and stories like it have disappeared from the news cycle, largely because the only thing anyone's talking about is that a signal message leaked.
		Should be interesting.
		We'll talk all about that before we do, my friends.
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	Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Cheryl Atkinson.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		Hello. So good to be here.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		It's been three years or something like that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, who are you?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What do you do?
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		Why am I here at said Admiral Stockdale?
		You guys?
		You're too young.
		Never mind.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Too young, I guess.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm the host and managing editor of the Sunday TV show Full Measure, which is going into its 11th year next fall.
		And unlike the other news organizations we're seeing on ABC, NBC, CBS, Fox, depending on where you live, Unlike other news organizations, our viewership is going through the roof this year as we continue to bring sort of under-reported stories and off-narrative stories.
		And I have a new book, Follow the Science, How Big Pharma Misleads, Obscures, and Prevails.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We're all right on.
		It should be fun.
		Thanks for hanging out.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You have an X account?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I was looking for it.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		I do have an X account, Cheryl Atkinson, and a sub-stack that I'm starting to get pretty active on.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Awesome. Good to see you, man.
		It has been a while.
		I'm back as well.
		Ian crossing in the house, and I'll tell you how I do it, Tim.
		I'll tell you how I sell that coffee.
		It's with love.
		And I figured out, according to the Greeks, there were eight types of love.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Okay, here we go.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, there's erotic love, there's love of family, there's friendship, there's love of self.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I do it with all of them.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Someone suggested we make a t-shirt of that and all of our coffees.
		It's actually a really good idea.
		So instead, it'll just be the actual art, so you'll have the Ian floating in the middle.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Ooh, that's a chakra.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Let's steal coffee for every chakra.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Okay, Ian.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Okay, Tim.
		Love you.
		Hi, Phil.
		How are you doing, baby?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I'm doing all right.
		Hello, everybody.
		My name is Phil Labonte.
		I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band, All That Remains.
		I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary.
		Let's go.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Here's a story from ABC News.
		Trump announces 25% tariffs on imported cars, ratcheting up global trade war.
		They say that major stock indexes closed down on Wednesday.
		I love that because it's not related to the news, but the corporate press always has to make sure that everything Trump does is wrong.
		So they're going to include that sub matter.
		Quote, I think our automobile industry will flourish like it hasn't before, Trump said.
		The auto tariffs are set to target a sector that employs more than a million U.S.
		workers and relies on a supply chain closely intertwined with Mexico and Canada.
		Tariffs placed in the auto industry risk raising car prices for U.S.
		consumers, experts previously told ABC News.
		I...
		I despise these people so much.
		I don't want to start swearing right away, but I could not hate the corporate press more.
		I could not hate them more.
		This is not a news story.
		This is an opinion piece meant to make you hate Donald Trump.
		A news story would say, Trump announces 25% tariffs on imported cars.
		Here's a quote.
		End of story.
		Instead, every opportunity they get, they...
		Inject some stupid nonsense about how Trump is bad, Trump is bad, and it's bad for you.
		The reality is, this is good for you.
		It's good news.
		It's going to make your cars cheaper.
		It's going to give people jobs in this country, and it's going to cut off the freeloaders who've been mooching off us men.
		The corporate press really gets me going.
		But to be fair, I'm the one who chose that news story.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		So they're saying that all imports, like with steel or rubber or anything that are coming from other countries are now going to be charged?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Is that what this, like what's going to get tariffed here?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The cars.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		The cars themselves.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So the idea is, you know, let's take a foreign car manufacturer.
		I'll use a random one.
		We'll just make up a fake one.
		We'll call it Crossland Cars.
		And they manufacture in China.
		China. And the company has a base of operations in the U.S. They make their cars in China, ship them here, import them, and then sell them to the American people.
		So they're using slave labor in China to make the car.
		Slave labor.
		Like, they're getting paid nothing.
		They have no health benefits.
		There's smog and smoot everywhere.
		And they're walking off their buildings in mass suicide.
		Fox, can't you get the point?
		You can't compete.
		The American worker can't compete with that.
		So these companies are like, we pay five bucks an hour.
		If we were going to hire these people in America, we have to pay them 50. It's too expensive.
		Trump says we put a tariff on those cars.
		As soon as they, if that company tries to bring those cars in, they're going to have to pay 25% extra to import it.
		So that's the American base of operation paying for it to come in.
		But these are companies operating in foreign countries effectively, selling to the American worker, extracting our labor force and our manufacturing base.
		What happens now is this 25% tariff will do two things.
		American auto manufacturers now get an opportunity to compete.
		They now have a 25% margin to work with because they're going to say anything you make your car for is going to be more expensive by virtue of the tariff.
		So if we can't lower our prices below a certain amount, so put it this way.
		Let's say a Chinese car costs $10,000.
		An American car costs $15,000.
		The American car manufacturer says it's impossible to get that cost lower.
		By putting a tariff on those cars, maybe not $1,500, but let's say...
		Let's say $1,250.
		It now evens the playing field for the auto manufacturer in the U.S. because the Chinese manufacturer has to increase their costs to offset the cost of the tariffs coming in.
		They claim the cost is to you, but when it allows American companies to compete, this actually can bring prices down because the foreign manufacturers are forced to lower their prices.
		More importantly, it will create more economic activity, more people who have work.
		There will be a greater volume of cars sold from the United States with more people who have jobs.
		That's how costs come down.
		They're lying to you.
		They're evil.
		They want to destroy this country's working class.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		And President Trump, I interviewed him a couple of weeks ago, and he admitted what he would rather have of the two is not the tariffs if it would simply just produce more jobs here.
		In other words, if both sides drop the tariffs because they've been tariffing us without us equally tariffing them back.
		That would be fine if they would drop the tariffs and just have more cars built here.
		He said he'd rather have the jobs here than the money, but he said the money's good too.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Cheryl, do you have the sense that if Trump's plan works out, do you think that the effect is going to be, you know, that there will be a return of jobs, or do you think that it's going to be something, do you think it's going to end up actually kind of like, you know, harpooning the economy?
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm not an economist, but we already have trillions of dollars of promised economic activity here in this country since Trump was elected as a result in part of the tariffs, maybe not entirely.
		Some of it is simply because he got elected and they see a better environment.
		But there is some direct activity linked to the tariff announcements already, which is what he predicted.
		I don't see how that's a bad thing.
		Now, one thing I questioned him about, is there going to be a period of pain in the short term because there will be belt tightening that has to be done or immediate impact before the job and impact is felt here, because it's going to take time to build factories and so on.
		He thinks that the economic benefit will be felt almost immediately because even as they're building the plants, that starts almost right away.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		That was actually going to be a follow-up.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Do you think that the economic activity that's going to be spurred, do you think that is going to take effect in time to protect the Republicans in the midterms?
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		Gosh, that's a great question.
		No idea.
		No idea.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		They're looking at, like, a Chinese company wants to sell in the U.S., so...
		They're going to have to either raise their prices, which means that American car companies are going to be relatively cheaper, which means they're going to get money, and then that's going to enhance American companies.
		Then they'll hire more people, build more plants.
		That's going to happen over time.
		Initially, China's going to be like, well, if we stop shipping our cars over the U.S. because they're screwing us with tariffs, we lose $700 billion.
		If we just now charge more and we have to eat that cost in loss or in expenditure, we'll make...
		$500 billion.
		So it's like...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Also consider this.
		You're right, but also consider this.
		Let's say a car costs $20,000 in the United States, and their margin is 10%, and China makes a car for $15,000, sells it here for $20,000, matching the market price of American-made cars, they get a massive margin where they're extracting profit by using cheap labor.
		Putting that tariff on it will strip their profit margins down.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I guess there's a concern that if the Chinese manufacturers raise their prices to keep up with tariffs, then the American companies will also raise their prices to keep up with just because they can.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Other way around.
		The foreign companies will not be able to compete with cheaper American products.
		So the idea with 25% tariff is that the foreign product needs to cost more than the American product.
		And then that basically they're going to have to drop their prices to compete with us.
		So if it ends up costing them more to make it, they're not going to raise their prices.
		The left keeps saying they're just going to raise the prices and pass to the consumer.
		No, it isn't.
		Take a look at our coffee company.
		So if we have Kona coffee made in Hawaii, and it's $10 a bag, and then someone imports from somewhere else for $8 a bag and makes a $2 profit, they still have to compete with our cost.
		So if their price goes up from the tariffs, they either stop...
		And we sell all American.
		Or they have to keep their prices down somehow to compete with the American costs that are already low.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		And they won't stop.
		It's a huge, huge sector of their economy, I imagine.
		They won't stop.
		They have to continue to compete.
		Like, economics, it's not about your emotions.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, I gotta be honest.
		I don't even care if the cars end up costing more money.
		You know why?
		Because this just means we're gonna get our auto manufacturing base back in Indiana and Michigan and Ohio.
		And it means that, you know...
		Remember the documentary from the 90s from Michael Moore about the shuttering of these auto plants?
		What happened to those people?
		Now they're sitting here screaming that Donald Trump's the bad guy when he's trying to bring back that middle class life Americans used to enjoy.
		Now you've got Gen Z. They can't afford a place to live.
		They can't find any jobs.
		The jobs they can find pay dirt.
		Imagine this Gen Z. Donald Trump does this.
		Next thing you know, an ad pops up.
		Auto manufacturing job paying $60,000 a year.
		Entry level.
		Or, you know, 40,000, 50,000 entry level.
		Now you have a chance to get these jobs.
		It's going to create competition in the American market.
		It's going to create opportunity for Americans to have these jobs.
		Trump's deportation, all of this combined, is going to raise the standard of living for the American people.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I feel like it's also a time in history when it's a good time to revitalize your national industry because of the materials revolution we're going through with, like, subatomic discoveries, graphene, obviously, hydrogen fuel.
		Like, we could really, I mean, even a new car company and a new American car company that is, like, hydrogen, graphene-based, if they could get the cost low.
		That's the opportunity that we have right now.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		Here's a problem, though, that I think you guys talked about before we went live here.
		People don't understand tariffs.
		I'm not saying I understand better than everybody else, because I don't.
		But I think their eyes glaze over, and they're being fed by most of the media a tale, a one-sided story, really, about what all this means without anybody explaining it to them in the way.
		you're trying to do.
		And they're not getting a full picture of it.
		So they're going to associate anything bad that happens economically in the next month or so for sure with this threat of tariffs when that may or may not be to blame for it But all that matters is, I would probably say, September of 2026?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's all that matters.
		Trump could literally do anything.
		Well, not literally, but he could do most things right now and get away with it.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Just so long as the economy is okay in 18 months, well, 12 months from now, 12, 16 months from now, just so long as the economy is okay, then the Republicans have a shot in the midterms, and if the Republicans...
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		actually do well in the midterms, then the president gets to continue his agenda with at least not a hostile Congress Don't you think they, Republicans, weirdly underperform, though, in recent history at times when they should excel when we're looking at what they ought to be able to do in Congress?
unidentified		Absolutely. I mean, we won.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So one issue people keep bringing up is the census issue that overcounted blue states in 2020, and that's going to get corrected in 2030, and we're going to see a massive shift in terms of electoral college votes and congressional seats.
		So it's going to get real interesting after 2030.
		So that midterm, I don't know when the census actually kicks in for districts, but Ezra Klein basically lays it out.
		Bill Maher lays it out.
		Democrats, it's game over.
		They're never going to win again.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I heard the Democratic Party's splitting.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Have you guys heard much about that?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Oh, they're fighting, that's for sure.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's like a tea party coming out of the Democratic Party.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they're fighting each other.
		My favorite was, we talked about this yesterday, that cat Abagazale.
		Abagazale, is that her name?
		She's got a keffiyeh on her wall in Illinois' 9th District, which has the highest density of Jews in Illinois.
		So all these people are coming out being like...
		She keeps talking about—she's a progressive.
		She's going to primary the incumbent Democrat.
		And she's like, I'm not going to use a consultant.
		We don't need any of these grifter-class consultants.
		And it's like, lady, you needed one to be like, you are trying to run for Congress in the densest Jewish population in Illinois, and you have a kafia behind you.
		Her dad's Palestinian.
		I don't think she can win.
		But I certainly hope she runs.
		I hope AOC props her up.
		I hope all of the squad and the left progressives prop her up because it will make all the moderate Democrats recoil and run to Donald Trump.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I'm open to seeing the slithering vestige of whatever that Democratic Party had become kind of fade away because it was just big bureaucracy controlled.
		And I don't even know if most of them even realize that they've been part of that.
		But I'd like to see it fade away.
		Whether or not what's coming next, I guess that's a big concern.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		They let the opportunity slip away during this transition where so many people on the traditional left started to merge with people on the right when it came to COVID issues.
		They still differ on key things like RFK Jr. may not agree with a lot of conservatives on environmental issues, but on...
		Issues that they have deemed to be now more important and more impactful to their families, they have come together.
		And Kennedy wanted to work with the Democrat Party, as you know.
		A lot of these Democrats who've broken away wanted to work with the Democratic Party and were rejected.
		The fate might have been totally different if those forces had joined on the left instead of on the right.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Do you think that that's going to be a phenomenon moving forward?
		Because we talk about the kind of the civil war that's happening in the Democrat Party between the actual progressives and the far left.
		And Tim was talking about some polling numbers that said the very far left and the 30% want to keep it.
		What they're doing.
		Some think that the Democrats didn't go far enough, but there was a significant portion, probably a third, that thought that they went too far and that was why they lost.
		Those people seem not ready to come over to vote for Republicans yet, but with the historic, unpopular...
		I think it's a problem for them, the doubling down.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		I mean, that's a legitimate position for some people to take, that this is our true purpose and this is what we ought to do.
		But that's starting to look more and more fringe, and they see that they have, you know, Republicans have peeled off important support because of that, and I think that's going to continue.
		I was getting...
		Calls on C-SPAN the other day.
		They have, I don't know if you know, a Democrat line, Republican line, an independent line.
		They take calls.
		The Democrats sounded like Republicans when they were calling in and asking about media issues and the things I cover with the health and science stuff.
		And everybody sounded like they were almost on the same page.
		And it was more on the middle or middle-leaning to conservative side, even these Democrats who are calling in.
		So I think...
		I think that's a bad signal for the Democrats.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I mean, back in the 80s, there used to be conservative Democrats and there were Democrats that would actually be conservative, at least by their standards.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I don't think that that's out of the question anymore, is it?
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		Well, I just think they're feeling more and more alienated if they are.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I'm wondering if the Democrats that don't want to be associated with the far left are going to quit or are they going to become the blue dog Democrats like they used to be.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Manchin quit.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Joe Manchin.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		He's not the only one.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Kyrsten Sinema is fairly moderate and she didn't quit?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, she quit the Democratic Party.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Did she quit the Democratic Party?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yes. A long time ago.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yes. Was it like two years ago she quit?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		There's a desire to want to stay and help it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Jeff Van Drew quit?
		If you're a Democrat...
		And you're trying to be moderate in any way.
		You cannot win.
		You cannot win.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		We have superdelegates.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's so crazy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's for president.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Override and control their candidate.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's for president.
		We're talking about everyone else.
		Let's jump to this story from the New York Post.
		Hundreds of Canadian steelworkers hit with layoffs as Trump's tariffs squeeze the industry.
		How's it going, Canada?
		What are you going to do about it?
		You do not get our business for free.
		That's just it.
		If the Canadians came out and they were just like, Trump, your tariffs are totally fine.
		Thank you and have a nice day.
		I would have been like, that was very honorable.
		Instead, they got all hissy and pissy, threatened to cut off our electricity to the areas that use electricity in the northeast part of the country.
		And they wanted to make it a big thing.
		They were slighted as if they deserve our business.
		Well, this is what you get, Canada.
		This is what I've been talking about.
		So we've got at least 200 Canadian members of the United Steelworkers, North America's largest private sector union, lost their jobs thus far, according to Marty Warren, the group's national director.
		And Canadian companies have not been shy about placing the blame on Trump's stiff tariffs, a 25% levy imposed on all steel and aluminum imports.
		I'm going to say this.
		I feel bad for anybody who loses their job, but Canada, if you lost your job because you were dependent upon American business...
		That was a mistake on your country's part to put everything on the line in terms of an international negotiation.
		You had no guarantees.
		And the American people have been exploited and are fed up.
		And they said, we're not interested in this anymore.
		We need to manufacture our own steel, our own aluminum.
		So why would we give those jobs to Canada?
		Now you guys have no jobs anymore.
		That was you getting sold out.
		This is Trump correcting and taking care of his own people.
		Maybe your country should do the same for you.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		And he's doing this in part not because just of steel and aluminum.
		It's over the dairy tariffs.
		Something like 260% in Canada that they're marking up if you want to sell milk, apparently.
		And the way we can get them is getting them with something they want to sell here in the U.S. What I don't get is...
		What's so controversial about that here in America?
		It's not as though we're rolling in dough.
		We have a deficit and a debt and so many needs going on here to say that we deserve to make sure that we're doing the best economically for our people.
		We're doing these reciprocal tariffs or inviting businesses to do more manufacturing here.
		What's controversial about that?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I think people don't understand the level of debt.
		I think it's just kind of like the wool's been pulled over.
		Most people don't know there's a U.S. debt clock where you can watch the $36 trillion just go up, up, up.
		And we've, over 100 years, actually since 1949, CIA, after World War II, they basically created America as the tit.
		For everyone else to get their milk from.
		In the British Empire, like in this whole Five Eyes organization.
		And we basically, it's just been accepted and people have now become accustomed to it.
		What's that?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Do you know why?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Well, the Federal Reserve was very easy to siphon money.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		You mentioned after World War II.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Do you know why the United States kind of became like...
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Because it was the strongest military?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Because of nuclear non-proliferation.
		Because the nuclear arms race, the United States, didn't want to see...
		Every country in Europe all getting nuclear missiles because that would make a higher percentage chance of a nuclear war happening.
		So the U.S. said, look, if you don't go after a nuclear arms program, we will protect you.
		That's the whole point of NATO.
		So it wasn't like, I mean, I know you talk about the global economic order and stuff like that, but it was...
		The most of it was we don't want the world to blow itself up because of nuclear weapons.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That was, I think, the American military aspect of the situation.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		But the economic aspect was they made America like the bank for all these other Commonwealth countries.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		The economic aspect came after...
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It was called the liberal economic order.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It came after NATO.
		NATO came first.
		They started building bases.
		They said, look, don't...
		We'll build bases.
		We'll protect you.
		We'll take care of you to make sure.
		We'll defend you from the Russians.
		And the response after that was, then you had economic interest.
		You had companies deciding, okay, we can go into these places because they're secure, because the United States military protects them.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		But also, Canada now gets a huge discount from this country as it's being siphoned off.
		And one, if they violate NATO, they no longer get the American money.
		So there's all these incentives to stay on board with this ethos of the liberal economic order.
		And you're going to keep getting money.
		And Trump comes in and he's like, I'm done with this.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let me just give you a simple argument on the tariffs thing.
		Donald Trump says to Canada, very simply, we think our business is worth more.
		Instantly they laughed 200 workers.
		I think that shows that there was an incongruence between the markets, Canada and the United States, and they were getting a freebie off us.
		If Donald Trump can go and say, We're going to charge you to sell your product in our country, and that destroys your business.
		I think that that just says it was an unfair arrangement from the get-go.
		If the market actually made sense, you'd be like, okay.
		But the reality was America doesn't need it.
		And so I'll put it this way.
		Donald Trump wants American steel back.
		The Steelers in Pittsburgh.
		Remember that?
		There's no steel in Pittsburgh anymore.
		Maybe a little bit.
		Trump wants to bring those jobs back and give Americans good lives.
		We sold it off at a discount rate to China.
		I'm sorry, to China and Canada.
		And Trump just said, you're going to have to pay more and instantly they're out of business.
		We were getting ripped off.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		Well, here's something just in simple terms.
		We've had leaders that for decades have been telling us, the American public, as we're rowing a kayak toward a waterfall, that we're never going to hit the waterfall.
		And we're just gliding that way and no one has the strength.
		Or the ability to explain to the public or the desire that hard things need to be done so that bigger things can happen.
		And the reason is they're all getting paid.
		Republicans and Democrats alike are getting the donations from the industries to make sure they don't do these things.
		And it never gives you votes, hardly, if you cut spending.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		In fact, it costs you votes, because if you say, no, we really do need to do something about our deficit and deficit spending, then you end up with people saying, oh, look, they want a real throw grandma off a cliff, the Paul Ryan video.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		And it takes a lot of morality on the part of a political figure.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		And not just short-term thinking, of course, but they have to think short-term in a way because they have to get elected every two years, four years, six years, or whatnot.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think the problem for this country is that if you were to be honest in politics, you'd lose in two seconds.
		You'd go up and you'd say something like, guys, if we continue at this economic rate...
		We are going to be bankrupt.
		This country will collapse.
		We need harsh economic reforms.
		This is going to lower the GDP by X amount of percent for the first two years.
		After that, we'll see stability.
		After that, we may see a recovery.
		People are going to say, nope, don't do it.
		Because most people would rather say, give me the short-term gain.
		I don't care about the long term.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That's what this is in Canada, too.
		This entanglement of trade that we've found ourselves in is being disentangled.
		The result is people are dependent on it.
		Like, normal people that don't think about politics, they're just used to going in and making steel, and now they're losing their...
		So there is, like, this short-term...
		And this is what short-term pain literally is, is people losing jobs.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Do you have any steel manufacturers in the U.S.?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I generally care about humanity in general, and, like, if we have international entanglements, like, that is...
		We're somewhat responsible for.
		I care.
		But I care, you know, long-term, we have to think at least 20 years ahead if we're talking about economy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There are indeed.
		There's U.S. Steel, there's Cleveland Cliffs Steel Dynamics, CMC, Gordot, North America, JW.
		There's a lot of steel companies.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I read somewhere that a lot of the steel manufacturers left the United States, and I'm not sure where I heard.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of these companies are actually just importing from Canada or China or Mexico.
		And so they're American companies, but they outsource the manufacturing somewhere else and distribute through the United States, which is short-term gain, long-term losses.
		But here's the best part.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		It's almost like we don't even need them, but we've been doing them a favor by buying their stuff, you know, at an elevated rate at the expense of our own people under the idea that we need to help.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Hold on, siphoning American money to the British Empire, man.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I can't stand it.
		The funniest thing about this is the left should be cheering Trump on.
		100%. Because...
		These, the outsourcing of jobs, and they used to.
		Remember the battle in Seattle?
		Remember that one?
		Remember that one, Ian?
		The battle in Seattle, 1999?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Quickly tell me.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The World Trade Organization protests.
		People, leftists, were upset about the U.S. cutting deals, much like the Trans-Pacific Partnership.
		What ends up happening is, the CEO of a big company and its shareholders say, we can increase our profit margins by 10% if we outsource the jobs to Mexico, where we don't gotta pay healthcare benefits.
		The American workers get fired.
		We make a bigger profit.
		It makes the rich richer and the middle class poor.
		The left was protesting this.
		Today, they're protesting against Trump's—they're protesting for it.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		If Trump had run as a Democrat and done these same initiatives, but run and won as a Democrat, would the Democrats be behind him now?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I actually—you know, there's a thing that we talk about.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Like, if Donald Trump had— If the Democrats had approached Donald Trump and basically stroked his ego...
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		He absolutely would have run as a Democrat.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		He would have done anything they wanted.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And they would have won.
		Democrat 2016 Trump on the same exact platform.
		Because he shared a lot with Bernie Sanders.
		If he ran this...
		He was pro-gay marriage.
		If he ran on that...
		And Hillary Clinton wasn't.
		If he ran on that, the Republicans would have had...
		Who? Rubio?
		Jeb Bush?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Jeb Bush.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then he would have won.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And the Republicans would have nobody right now.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's a big if because they have superdelegates and they probably would have been like, Hillary Clinton's our candidate, everyone.
unidentified		Right, right, right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We get that.
		If they approached Trump and said, but that was the problem.
		Hillary Clinton, it was her turn.
		Trump's only move was as a Republican.
		Also, because of the sentiment of Occupy and Trump being a billionaire, with Bernie Sanders as a left populist, no populist is going to elect a billionaire.
		On the right, however, the right populists were like, Trump's right.
		He knows how the machine works.
		It's benefited him.
		He's going to fight for us.
		The left just says millionaires and billionaires are bad.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's interesting to think if he had run as a Democrat and they groomed him to be a Democrat, if he would have just become evil, like become part of that machine, but they didn't get to him early enough.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		I think he'd be very much the same.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		He's not changed, if you look at him over the decades, he's not changed a lot about anything.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Could you imagine Trump today, like if it was inverted, in 2016 he runs and he's going, you know, I just think sometimes a man is a lady.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Thinking a lot about it.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I just retweeted.
		He was making remarks from...
		I forget where he was.
		But he was making remarks specifically saying, you'll never be a woman if you're a man.
		It doesn't matter how many operations you get.
		I just retweeted that just before the show started.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		When was he saying that?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Today, like this afternoon.
		It was 17 minutes ago I retweeted it.
		It was from four hours ago.
		Breaking 911 put it up.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I hope you guys are ready for this one.
		Because the United States is going to go back into the Commonwealth.
		That's right.
		The United States will bend the knee to King Charles, apparently.
		Donald Trump suffers MAGA backlash over Commonwealth proposal.
		Hell no.
		So Donald Trump suggested he could accept any potential invitation from King Charles III to join the Commonwealth.
		Has led to one fan to warn you will lose 95% of your support base.
		I mean, the left hates him already.
		He would lose everyone else.
		The whole country would be unified.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I don't even know what he meant, because he couldn't have actually meant, yes, the United States...
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		I don't even know what they're offering.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		I don't get it.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's an honorary position, is why he would consider it, because they're not officially becoming a parliamentary, you know, we're not going to get a king because of this.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		If you go in the Commonwealth, you could very easily end up with a king.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Alex Jones, I've got a message for Donald Trump.
unidentified		If you really try to make America join the British Commonwealth, 1776 will commence again.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's shocking.
		Like, King Charles...
		Alex also, Alex Jones went on to say, like, maybe Trump's going to troll this guy.
		Like, have the king come over to the United States, sit in the Oval Office and be like, yeah, we're not joining the Commonwealth.
		Welcome to my house.
		Like, could be something like that.
		Trump's probably, like, has no idea what he's about to do.
		And it's, like, toying with the idea.
		And when he hears people complaining and being like, you better not even consider putting this country under the authority of the British Empire.
		And he'll not.
		He'll step back.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He will not.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He will not do it.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		He will not.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Trump kind of just says stuff sometimes.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		He likes to be provocative.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		He likes to do...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But I wonder how much of what we're seeing with all these stories is just Trump manipulating the press.
		Like, seriously, Trump could...
		If there was a negative story about Trump, he could just fart and the story's gone.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I like about him that he'll say crazy stuff like this and think about it.
		Just because it's a bad idea doesn't mean it's wrong to think about it and to voice it.
		He thinks out loud a lot of times.
		I like that about him, actually.
		Like, Gaza, 51st state, what other crazy stuff?
		Oh, making Canada state, making Greenland.
		I mean, at least he's outside the box.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Maragaza. Maragaza.
unidentified		Maragaza. Maragaza.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Beautiful. But it's up to us to keep him in check when he says really, really bad ideas.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		We gotta be vocal about it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, he's an ideas guy, right?
unidentified		He is.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Sometimes you gotta throw him out there, and then people say, yeah, we're not gonna do that one.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		But what I like about the conversation is, he's a...
		Big ideas guy.
		He's right about a lot of the stuff with the Panama Canal.
		I didn't know what was going on.
		We've had reporters go down there for my show and try to look into it.
		He's right about some of it, but I would have thought the answers were sort of like, oh, let's negotiate so that they don't raise the fees so much, and let's work with them on not letting the Chinese get so much control.
		And he's all about, let's take it back!
		You know, like, the big idea, and it may...
		That may not happen, but the conversation gets going.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Just take a look at this.
		Hard to see, because Bloomberg's website sucks.
		Look at this beautiful picture.
		Look at this absolutely beautiful image.
		Wouldn't you want to just hang out there in these beautiful homes?
		Yeah, that's Greenland.
		And Trump says, it must be ours.
		Trump insists the U.S. must own Greenland, as Vance heads there.
		So we don't need the British Commonwealth.
		We need our own Commonwealth.
		We need our own.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		Greenland. It's another big idea.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		Who would have thought?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It was funny because I guess Joe Rogan, I don't know.
		Whenever Joe Rogan has a thought on something, the media reports it as a headline story.
		I guess they're bored, but we love you, Joe.
		And I guess he was saying he doesn't care for the Canada's 51st state thing.
		Look, if Donald Trump is actually serious about Canada being the 51st state, I'm not for that.
		I jokingly said we're going to seize it, and I got more death threats than I've ever gotten.
		I don't actually want Canada.
		It's cold.
		I don't mind it for vacation to get poutine and go up.
		But Greenland's a different story.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Canada had a revolution, and the people were like, we want statehood, we want First Amendment, we want American constitutionalism.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I would support them, but I don't want any kind of military seizure of British territory.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Would you join the volunteer force to fight in the war of Canada?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		No, I would be an information guy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't know, man.
		I wouldn't have any interest in anything to do with Ukraine, but if there was a calling all support...
		We're taking Canada.
		I'd say, what can I do?
		I'm kidding.
		The Canadians are going to kill me.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, the Canadians, I don't think so.
		I mean, it's a genuine conversation.
		You know, the idea of United States isn't insulated to this landmass.
		The idea of a bunch of states that are united could be global.
		It could be solar.
		It could be multi-planetary.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know what the actual name of Mexico is?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		United States of Mexico.
		Indeed it is.
		Just extrapolate that idea.
		Localized governance is the way to go.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		It sounds so crazy when you first hear these things, especially if you're not read in like I'm not sometimes.
		But he was talking about Greenland his first term.
		It didn't get a lot of coverage.
		He was talking about doing this during his first term.
		There's a method to it.
		There's a reason, strategic reasons that look pretty important that make it look pretty smart.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Greenland is Denmark that actually...
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Kingdom of Denmark.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		But we already have a lot of authority there given to us in a military sense.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		That's because Denmark can't take care of it.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		Right, we're responsible in part for their security.
		We already have presence there.
		They already rely on us in part for some things.
		There is a relationship that exists.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		We actually had to take stewardship of Greenland during World War II because Denmark couldn't protect Denmark from the Nazis.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		And we couldn't have the Nazis building a beachhead.
unidentified		So we're still responsible for their protection right now.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		The United States is the entity that keeps the entire North American continent safe.
		So we talk about Canada.
		If you look at what Canada's military is actually comprised of, it is a joke.
		Absolute joke.
		They have almost nothing.
		They rely entirely on the United States for their defense.
		And the same thing goes for Greenland.
		Greenland, the reason Greenland doesn't get taken by Russia is because of the United States.
		And anyone that says anything different is lying to you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, that is interesting because now that I think about it, it's like the defund the police, feminists and leftists.
		They don't understand.
		That their ideology can only exist in a state that keeps you secure.
		If there was no...
		Let's say the United States didn't exist and it was just a landmass.
		Feminism wouldn't exist.
		There'd be barbarian gangs on motorcycles going around taking what they want.
		There would be small pocket communities that were run brutally.
		If we ever saw an actual economic, like, governmental collapse, yo, it's going to be the most brutal guys who take over.
		But because of the police and because of our system of laws, which protect the rights of everybody, feminism and the far left are able to exist in the system.
		Canada is a good example of this.
		If the United States didn't exist, Canada wouldn't exist.
		Absolutely. Canada, I hope you hear this.
		If the U.S. wasn't a psychotic war machine and there was literally nothing here but a spattering of states, Canada would be occupied and taken over.
		And someone else would come and claim the landmass.
		Canada's fringe far-left garbage only exists because the U.S. won't tolerate anybody going near Canada.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		This is a meme that...
		It's just a picture that I'm looking at that I'm going to retweet right now.
		Canada's active military, they have 1.9 active military per 1,000 people.
		The U.S. have four.
		Canada has 375 aircraft.
		The U.S. has 13,209.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		They have 375?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		375 aircraft.
		Naval destroyers, Canada has zero.
		The United States has 75. The United States has 64 submarines.
		Canada has four.
		The United States has 11 aircraft carriers.
		Canada has zero.
		Canada has 74 tanks.
		The United States has 4,000.
		There is no competition between the United States military and Canada.
		The reason Canada is a free country is because the United States wants Canada.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's almost free.
		Look up King of Canada.
		Search it right now.
		King of Canada.
		It's Charles.
		He's their king.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		If you compare the British military...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It says Ian Crossland.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Well, I will be one day.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		If you compare the British military to the United States, it's not quite as laughable, but it's still laughable.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Britain has no military.
		They're like, I mean, not no military.
		Britain has a military.
		But they have insignificant compared to the United States, along with what you're saying.
		And Canada's part of this.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		The United States military is larger than all of the rest of NATO.
		All of the rest of the country.
		All of NATO combined.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Do you know what I love this?
		Do you know what the largest air force in the world is?
		U.S. Air Force.
		So who has the largest air force?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		United States.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Do you know who has the second largest air force?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		U.S. Navy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I kind of love that about this country.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I love it.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely. I think it was that they were the largest.
		If the U.S. military was a corporation, it would be the largest polluter on the planet.
		So much hot activity in the ocean.
		Just dumping, dumping, dumping all day.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Burning. Keeps global trade possible.
		Yeah. If the U.S. Navy wasn't patrolling the seas, pirates would take everything.
		I mean, come on, let's be real.
		If you got a cargo ship, like if it wasn't for the U.S. Navy, there would just be pirates literally everywhere, and these ships would be armed to the teeth.
		And a lot of them are, actually.
		But it's wild to me.
		You ever see those videos where the cargo ship just sprays water on these guys?
		Yeah. The speedboats are pulling up and they blast them with water.
		They turn on the thing and water sprays off the sides, and I'm like, okay, I saw another video.
		You saw the one where they unload on the pirates?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I've seen a few of those.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There's a viral video where the pirates are coming up and the dudes are just going like, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, just shooting at them.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Apparently, there's a Russian tourism...
		I heard this yesterday.
		Was it on this show that you guys might even talk about?
		I don't remember.
		You can pay like $15,000 to go get on a Russian boat and sail where there's pirates.
		And if they come...
		You're allowed to open up.
unidentified		No, what?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Seriously. I don't know what the show was, but it was Mark Cuban.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Someone was telling Mark Cuban.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Your mom's house with Mark Cuban.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It was Christina Pryzitzky.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Pirate hunting cruises.
		Hilarious. Russian luxury yachts offer pirate hunting cruises.
		From 2009.
		I don't know if it's real, but there you go.
		Wealthy punters.
		Pay $1,500 per day to patrol the most dangerous waters hoping to be attacked by raiders.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		What the?
		Would you do that?
		I mean, that's a question they asked Mark Cuban.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I wouldn't spend that much.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Because they'll fire back, you know?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they're going to be fired.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You're going to have superior weaponry.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's terrible, man.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I don't understand why you have to pay to go stop evil people.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I know.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's like the inverse of hiring mercenaries.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They figured it out.
		They were like, guys, guys, we got a pirate problem.
		We don't got to hire people to deal with it.
		Let's get rich people to pay us so they can go deal with it.
		That's kind of creepy.
		I gotta be honest.
		People who would pay money to go ride around in boats to shoot at people?
		I suppose...
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Give it to the Russians, man.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That's a hard people over there.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I suppose it's better than them murdering people or whatever.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's an interesting philosophy that people that want to be vigilantes bad enough would pay money to a government to go hunt their enemies.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		That's creepy.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I mean, is that even a government?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's jump to the story, my friends.
		Ladies and gentlemen, we have breaking news.
		We got them!
		We got them!
		The morbidly obese man on the four-wheeler who rammed the Cybertruck.
		We got him.
		It's finally over.
		Man on homemade four-wheeler caught purposefully ramming parked Teslas.
		Yeah, more than one.
		Here's the video.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		That's a woman.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, that's a guy.
		That's a guy.
		That is a man.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		He's definitely got a lot of estrogen flowing through his system.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Look at this.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's just an opinion.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		We get all that inertia.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I just don't get it, man.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		He's giving himself a concussion while he's doing it, too.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So his name was DeMarcayune Cox.
		And he's been accused of purposely ramming and damaging several Teslas across the city on March 25th.
		Apparently he didn't realize they have security cameras.
		None of these people do.
		Dude, this is really weird.
		Have people always been this stupid?
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		Honestly, I really mean this when I say it.
		This is mental illness.
		The stuff that you're seeing, these people are mentally ill.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Like just corroded brains from dietary and stress and stuff?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Have people always been this dumb?
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		No, I think we've got a serious mental health crisis related to drugs and bad food and all kinds of stuff the last decade or two.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, this is like 20 years ago I was hanging out in Chicago and I was having this philosophical debate with a friend and I was talking about...
		We were talking about, like, NPCs.
		This is kind of crazy that it became a meme later on.
		But, like, solipsism and things like this.
		And I said, I was like, dude, there are some people who are just not real.
		I swear, because either they're just too dumb.
		And then so I asked random people on the street as we were talking, are you sentient?
		Not a single person said yes.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Did they say no?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They said no.
		They all said no.
		All of them just outright, no.
		And I was like...
		Are you joking?
		Like, come on.
		I was expecting for them to be like, yeah.
		And we were at a college, so it's not like people are going to say that people don't know what you mean.
		I was like, we were outside of DePaul University.
		I just genuinely think these people, there's no lights on upstairs.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I guess they call it intelligence for a reason, because it's actually something.
		Like, it isn't everywhere.
		Like, it's a unique phenomenon when someone actually has it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Do you think that if we asked these people, do you have an inner monologue, they'd all say no?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Or would they say, what's that?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		They would say, what's that?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah. Like, you don't know what you don't know?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's like, well, if you don't have one, I'm not sure that telling you would actually help you understand it.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Some people think in, like, images.
		Some people think in sounds.
		Some people think in words.
		Some people just don't really think, I guess.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I can't imagine thinking...
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		Some do what the voices tell them to do.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Right. I can visualize things, but I, like, I mean, I'm constantly, like, kind of walking around muttering to myself or, like, thinking out loud, talking to myself.
		So I can't...
		And so anytime I think ever, it's in words.
		I can't imagine thinking...
		Only in concepts or not having the ability to think in words.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		I think in pictures, I think.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Do you?
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		I think so.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Like you picture something happening?
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		When someone's explaining something to me, I'm putting together a little movie in my head.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		And if there's a gap, I stop them and have to make them fill that in so I can continue the movie and understand it.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That's kind of how it is with me.
		And then there's like color, which is like warm.
		Like there's a temperature of color.
		Around the imagery happening, like the jacket will be like a brighter red that's warmer, indicating like a feeling, like an emotion.
		That's kind of how I visualize.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Do you feel like that's an asset?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		My sense is that would be an asset when you're doing interviews.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		I just thought that's how everybody sees it because you don't really analyze it yourself until I have heard other people.
		And clearly my husband doesn't think that way.
		So when you talk to other people and you realize they're not following the same train of thought as you, you realize there's...
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Does it help you when you're interviewing people?
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		Probably, because I make people explain things very clearly, and I think that helps.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think that there's also something called...
		What is it?
		What's the word for when people can't visualize things?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I don't know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It has an A. Aphantasia.
		Yeah, so I actually think that there's different modes of thinking.
		And there's probably a bunch of different ones.
		Some people might think in sounds.
		They actually...
		They almost hear the sound.
		You don't literally hear the sound, but you can...
		I don't know.
		What's the sound version of...
		Visualize? Audioize?
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, yeah.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I mean, you can...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Some people in their minds hear it.
		Some people can think almost in text.
		So there's different ways of thinking.
		There's audio, video, conceptual.
		And then I think what you end up with is...
		A lot of people who have the most rudimentary, they can't visualize anything and there's no inner monologue, there's probably not a lot going on there.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		And that inner monologue's important because that's what'll keep you from doing that stupid shit.
		Like, you need to be able to see yourself in the future potentially doing something and questioning it and be like, hold on, there's consequences.
		Think about all the possible outcomes of that action.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		Edit your actions.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's it, but there's another component in that people who have the ability to not just...
		To visualize an image of things, but to imagine what it could be.
		So there's remembering something, then there's visualizing anything which allows you to make predictions of the future.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		Consequence. Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So you are right about this guy can't think ahead, but it's not just that.
		It's that he doesn't, because he can't, he has no reason for what he's doing.
		That's why people like us don't go around ramming Teslas.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's interesting.
		The age of reason.
		Yeah, that's a big deal.
		Reason wasn't always part of our norm.
		Like, we kind of are in the age of reason for the most part right now, and there's a big diffusion.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The reason I do...
		So, there's a couple different...
		There's many different motivations for action.
		This is pure impulse.
		Someone told them to be angry.
		They got angry.
		They took an action.
		There's no rhyme or reason.
		It's just impulse.
		It's the lowest order of thinking.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That lizard brain, the amygdala.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		Then there's reason.
		There's reasoning.
		Meaning, I think about the action, I visualize what will happen if that action is taken out, and then I decide how to address that circumstance.
		Sane, rational people do things like start companies, and build houses, and design trains.
		Everybody else rams Teslas.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		And they also question their purpose.
		With reason, you're able to think, why do I want...
		Why am I drawing...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Except Sam Seder.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He can't.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		He doesn't question his purpose.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He can't even Google the word.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		He doesn't believe in free will.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I just had to drag the guy.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Free will?
		That's a whole other conversation.
		Free will versus fate?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		No, no.
		He doesn't believe that people have free will.
		He thinks that people don't actually have free will.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That we're all starting an automated system.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		He thinks that everyone...
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It's kind of predestined depending on your inclination and whether or not you've had enough food today and stuff.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't care what he thinks because he's not smart enough to Google search basic philosophical concepts.
		He lacks not just the capability to understand but the desire to try.
		Interesting. But I don't want to talk about that guy.
		I was just dragging him.
		Okay, let's talk about the guy who got arrested for ramming a Tesla.
		And all the rest of them.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		So what happened?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Did he get charged with...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think he's getting felonies.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I mean, that's right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What are they giving him?
		Multiple felonies?
		No, I gotta be honest.
		This video is ridiculously funny.
		I mean, it's dumb.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Is it playing now?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It is playing.
unidentified		Okay. Oh my god.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Well... That's the momentum.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yo, we're in trouble as a species.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		And the homemade, the homemade four-wheeler, that's pretty cool.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Is homemade?
unidentified		Mm-hmm.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Is that what they said?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah. Wow.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		We always have been in trouble as a species.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, weird homemade four-wheeler.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		A lawnmower and a bicycle or something there.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Wow. Look at that.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Gosh, how do you even describe it?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		A single felony for criminal mischief and failure to identify.
		These people are so dumb.
		Bro, Teslas have cameras.
unidentified		I just don't get it, man.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		Who doesn't know that now?
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		People are still keying the cars on camera every day.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think Christians get mad when I say this, but I'm like, is it just that not every person is ensouled?
		Like when you have a soul, you're there and you're present in the moment.
		And if you're not, you're just like milling about scratching cars.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		There's an interface between the brain and the soul, I think.
		Like the neural activity in the brain is electromagnetic.
		And the soul is probably like your magnetic field or has some connection to that.
		But then there's that interface between the area around you and the energy field and then the actual matter.
		And then there can be collusion.
		There can be like diffraction.
		There can be all sorts of interference.
		And that maybe is just genetic from birth.
		Like it just wasn't built to be able to connect to that external source.
		Or it's diet.
		It's the way you were beat when you were a kid, and you don't want to ever feel that again.
		And so your brain just like, your neurons just shrivel up and they aren't awakened.
		I don't know, man.
		It's almost like there's multiple species of human, hominid.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Well, there have been.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		There sure have been.
		And why not now?
		Only in retrospect, maybe, we'll measure it and be like, actually, yeah, there were.
		People were, some species just got it and some didn't.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, I mean, that's what did happen.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I wonder if they even thought they were different at the time.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		There's evidence that Neanderthals and Homo sapiens actually did produce some offspring because people from Europe have Neanderthal DNA.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and Denisovans were like these big tall people from North Asia.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		There were the little people from Australia.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Were those Homo sapiens?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It was called Homo florensis, was the little one, and then Denisovan was a hominid also, big tall, big guys.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		Doesn't 23andMe or one of those, they tell you if you have any Neanderthal in you?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yep. Oh, wow.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, they're bankrupt now.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		Yeah. Are they Chinese-owned or something?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't know, but all those DNA samples are up for sale.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yep. Dude, what?
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		Dang it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They plug those DNA samples and all that medical data into AI, and they are going to have a lot of power.
unidentified		Mm-hmm.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Bro, if they were to take every human's medical data, DNA, and current blood levels and put it into AI, they'd be able to cure any disease overnight.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		They don't want that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, the control they do.
		They can give to themselves.
		Yeah. So the thing right now with all this AI stuff is we're sitting here making pictures of ourselves fighting dragons or whatever.
		Like I made the Kung Fu.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You should highlight that tonight too.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The Kung Fu thing I tweeted about it.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's pretty funny.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'll pull it up now so I can explain to people basically what happened.
		Let me see if I can find it.
		Oh, there's the bike lock thing.
		So I tweeted this.
		I told ChatGPT to make an image of me debating a liberal.
		I didn't really.
		I said, make him doing kung fu and fighting a demon.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		And you just put a picture of you, your face, or something?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so when I do the shows, the screenshots we have, we have the OBS program, and I look at the camera, and then I just hit the command for screenshot.
		So I look at the camera, I hit it, grab it, paste it into ChatGPT, and it was just my head.
		There was nothing else, just that.
		And it made that.
		It made that picture.
		And that's crazy.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		So go on to, you're talking about the medical now, if they have this.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So, once they get access to everybody's medical information, the AI will see things you cannot.
		It's going to be able to correlate weird things where it's like, everybody with lupus has low magnesium.
		That's pretty overt.
		We would notice that.
		We'd be like, hey, we've gone through all of these different charts of people with lupus.
		We keep finding low magnesium.
		That's a really obvious thing to find.
		But what the AI would find is...
		Hey, every time someone has lupus, they're minus 1% magnesium, plus 2% iron, minus 3% vitamin K, plus 4% vitamin D. And it's like that specific combination results in this form of lupus.
		And then it can create a pill to balance out all those problems.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It can also do behavioral stuff.
		Like, people that are depressed tend to face north three hours a day.
		And we found that if you face south...
		Facebook has known for a decade when you're going to poop.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Not a joke.
		Not being funny.
		Facebook already had the data because they've got a billion users and the computers easily mapped out that every human takes specific actions which show a likelihood of about to go to the bathroom.
		So it's like within a certain time of eating, within a certain amount of movement, they got your GPS data.
		There was a story on it like eight years ago that Facebook was actually, they actually knew when a person would go to the bathroom.
		That's crazy.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		What concerns me is if it starts lying.
		I mean, you know, without being hyperbolic.
		Yeah, really.
		Because if they tell you, hey, we have all your medical data, it's such a tried and, you know, trusted service, and then they just give you something that's a little...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So here's another image.
		I took my screenshot and said to make it anime.
		You want to pull that up, Serge?
		This is a great one.
		This is the latest ChatGPT update.
		I mean, it's kind of nuts.
		It's getting the hands right.
		That's a crazy image.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That's the best AI iteration of you I've seen so far.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It is ridiculous how good things have gotten.
		Insane. So I took pictures of my buddies, and I uploaded to ChatGPT, and I said, make them into anime.
		And even the background and everything was perfect.
		It's nuts.
		It's really crazy to see.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I was thinking we should do, like, a promo for IRL.
		There's a bunch of us in that genre.
		Yeah, anime.
		I don't know.
		It's like, do you use the tech?
		You have to use the tech.
		It's like nuclear weapons.
		Like, if the Americans didn't...
		It's too dangerous.
		It's too evil.
		We can't.
		It's too powerful.
		We can't use it.
		No, you gotta use it, and you gotta be the best at it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		While we're here, let's get freaky with it.
		Actually, I don't know if I want to go to this one other story first.
		No, maybe we shouldn't.
		We'll go to that one next.
		We'll start with this one.
		You guys saw that one?
		Let me see if I can find a better story.
		Alright. This headline's not good.
		I'll pull it up anyway.
		Holy crap, guys.
		Alright, here we go.
		From Hoboken, New Jersey, patch.com, police chief defecated an office, put Viagra in office coffee, New Jersey cops claim.
		Several police officers filed tort claims against a New Jersey police chief saying he defecated on the office floor, according to legal paperwork.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		What's wrong with you?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Bringing you the stories that matter most.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Is he the guy that spiked Viagra?
		The chief?
		Or did someone else spike him and then he...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yo, this is in North Bergen.
unidentified		He pooped.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is like the New York Metro.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		Stuck a hypodermic needle into an officer's penis.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		This is great.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		Why wasn't that in the headline?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Everything about this is bad.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So this is like Hoboken, isn't it?
		No, no, no, this is not Hoboken, is it?
		What area is that?
		What is it?
		That's not Union City, is it?
		Gutenberg? Bergenwood?
		It's right next to Manhattan.
		It's literally across the river.
		This is basically New York City.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That's a really influential position to be the police chief of a borough of New York City.
		How is this guy in this position?
		Did he just have a psychotic break?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's right by West New York.
		Where's Hoboken's further south?
		Yeah. Jersey City.
		Man, I used to live right here.
		That's crazy.
		I lived in Union City.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		There's a quote.
		Our clients now genuinely fear for their on-job safety.
		Yeah. Their clients, I don't know.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		I guess after you've been jabbed in the wing-wing, you would be.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Another cop?
		Spiked coffee with Viagra?
		Attorney Patrick Toscano of Fairfield has requested in a letter to Attorney General Matt Platkin dated March 26th that the state take over the police department in the Hudson County town, saying the officers now fear for their safety.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I would.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yo, there's photos.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
unidentified		Oh, snap.
unidentified		What is wrong with him?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if I'm mad or I like the guy.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Did this person have like a psychotic break or something?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I gotta know.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		Mental illness is real.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		He must have spiked the Viagra so that he could get the specimen in order to inject the thing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		In all seriousness, the point of this story, I've been telling people, when all these Republicans come out saying back the blue, this is who you're backing.
		Because Democrats appoint these people.
		These are corrupt cities.
		The guy who crashed into Tesla in that car, no different than these psychotic cops that are running these departments doing insane things.
		I'm not saying all cops are bad.
		I don't think so.
		I'm saying...
		The people running these departments are appointed by Democrats who get elected by psychopaths.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Well, he's an appointee.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		The chief is an appointee.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm assuming he's an appointee.
		But in most big cities, the people who run the police department are appointed by the Democratic mayor.
		So what do you think is going to happen?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Well, probably others are.
		There's my audio here and myself talking about Viagra.
		What's going to happen?
		This guy's going to get arrested.
		He's for sure he's been arrested.
		He's going to get charged.
		He's probably going to see some time.
		I mean, if he hurt a bunch of cops, he's really going to get in trouble.
		It sounds like he terrorized police officers on the job.
		Yeah. I hope he sees some real punishment.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		This is on silent.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		I don't know why it's doing that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You gotta turn the vine down, I guess.
		I don't know.
		Yeah. Your phone's just yelling.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		That's weird.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah. I don't want to give it up.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		This is...
		It's troubling.
		It's a troubling story.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That opening paragraph.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		So who supports him or who appointed him?
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		That's the question.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		This didn't happen in one day.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		No, no.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		He clearly should lose his job.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		How did he keep doing this stuff?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Oh, he kept doing it?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know what's crazy?
		Remember that cop who banged all those other cops?
		It was that lady cop?
		Yeah. That story would not go away.
		I kind of have a feeling like this story is going to be in the news all the time.
		Because, let's be honest, tariffs are boring.
		Sure, it's going to change your life, but it's boring.
		So when that lady cop was going around banging those other cops, every outlet was running at front page 24-7.
		And I was getting frustrated, like, dude, I don't care.
		But the people want what the people want, and the market dictates.
		That's why I'm not a libertarian.
		They do.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		They liked that girl because she was cute, and the idea of her having sex with a bunch of guys, a bunch of probably simps were like, oh, I love this.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, they were thinking, maybe she'll have sex with me.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Let me share the story.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Maybe she'll see it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's so creepy.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It's so creepy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's why stories like this take off, though.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah.
		I mean, God.
		I mean, I don't know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		How did this guy not...
		Oh, whoa.
		What? He's been accused of being a homophobe before as well?
		Well, now you've got big problems.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's going to get the Democrats in the area all up in arms.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		We have to follow up on this if we don't get to the bottom today because I've got to know what happened to this guy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well... They're scared of their jobs.
		They accuse...
		What is this?
		What is this?
		The claim also accused Farley of sending a pride flag and masturbation cream to another officer's home, which his family saw, exposing himself at work at random times, and dropping drugs believed to be Viagra and Adderall into coffee.
		The claim also says one officer's fish were believed to have been poisoned with drugs.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Good lord.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I mean, he's gotta lose his job.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Poisoning someone's fish.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it's not attempted homicide.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Dude, I'm sorry.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Is it attempted murder?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No. Someone's going to write a movie about this.
		It's like Super Troopers.
		But the guys in Super Troopers are actually not bad dudes.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Because if it happened in a movie, I'd be like, that's just so unrealistic.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		If the guy walked into the chief's office and he's bent over the table and you're like, come on, that would never happen.
unidentified		Apparently, reality's stranger than fiction.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Jeez, man.
		Like I said, he's got to lose his job.
		He's absolutely got to lose his job.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But this is the state of liberal cities, right?
		This is just outside of New York City.
		I do not understand why people still want to live there.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I mean...
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		We need to search who appointed and his name.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But outside of this guy, what's his name?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I think it's Robert Farley.
		Is this the guy?
		North Bergen police chief?
		Yeah, Robert Farley.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But outside of this guy, this is New York, right?
		This is the New York metro.
		This is where people want to live.
		This is where tons of people choose to be.
		I do not understand.
		I mean, look, I remember I went to New York for the first time.
		It was crazy to see all these buildings.
		And I'm from Chicago.
		And I was there for like five years.
		And then eventually I moved out of the city and moved to Union City, which is just on this other side of the Lincoln Tunnel.
		And I was there for a little while.
		And I slowly just moved farther and farther away.
		The more I realized how awful it was.
		The prices are too high.
		The laws are insane.
		The police departments are appointed by psychopathic Democrats.
		People are planting bombs.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Apparently, the chief was appointed by Mayor Nick Sacco on February 1st, 2024, to answer that question.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		He's only been there.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		He's done all that stuff in a year?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		As for why live in New York, for me, it was the 90s, and I was from a small town, so there's the excitement of a big city, and of course, New York has all that publicity.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It was also much safer in the 90s.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		I lived there in the 90s, too, and that's when...
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		It went downhill right before Giuliani came in.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that was early 90s, right?
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		Yes. And it was better, apparently.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		I moved away by the time Giuliani was there, but the taxi drivers, when I would go back for work, would say, everything's better, everything's different with Giuliani.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I got there in 2001.
		I got there right before 9-11, and I ended up working at Ground Zero.
		It was a crazy time, but it was exciting.
		That was why I wanted to live there.
		And then it was because before the internet, if you wanted to be rich or famous or successful, you couldn't be in a small town.
		You had to go to a big city.
		And so I think people are still brainwashed to think that they need to go to one of these hubs to make it, and you don't.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		You don't have to, but there is something to be said for the networking aspect.
		If you're around people, and this is something that Tim has talked about too, if you're around people and you're spending time with them at work, and it's why remote...
		Working is bad, or is not as productive as going to a job.
		If you're working on a project with a team, you'll go to lunch together, you'll inevitably talk about the project, and you'll actually get more done because you're in the presence of other people.
		And when it comes to...
		From my experience, from being in a band, if you're going to shows, right?
		If you're going to shows during the week, you go two, three shows a week, you're hanging around with people that are in the music industry, you're making connections, bands that...
		Come through.
		You'll meet those bands.
		You'll end up getting more tour opportunities.
		You'll know people in the music industry, as in like in press, in the media.
		You'll know people that are working at labels.
		A ton of people are like, well, I'm going to move to California in L.A. because there is so much going on in the music industry.
		And the same thing can be said for New York City.
		I assume that's the same in many industries.
		The reason people that are in the tech industry want to live in Silicon Valley, they'll be around other people in the tech industry.
		They'll be around other people that have similar ideas, similar experiences, similar jobs.
		There is something to be said for having the access to an infrastructure of people or networking of people.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Cheryl, did you like...
		Did you move there and then develop a networking and establish a career and then leave and go somewhere smaller?
		What was your flow?
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		I went from local news to CNN back when it was a news organization in 1990 and 1993.
		Then all the networks offered me jobs in New York, kind of had to go there if I wanted to try the next thing.
		Did not like New York.
		Didn't live there very long, working for CBS News.
		They gave me a choice to stay there or move overseas to report or move to Washington, D.C. and report, which is, I took the latter, Washington, D.C. But living in New York, I think it's cute at first because you're living the New York life and everybody's rude and mean.
		It's funny because I'm from the South.
		So my husband used to say it's like a circus every day.
		You get up and you go out and see the carnival.
		Then, to me, it gets tiring.
		After you live that way for a while, it ceases to become cute, and it's just tiring.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Oh, God.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Literally, because the brake dust...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Smells like sour milk.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that brake dust comes off the brakes in cars.
		It's so small, fine particulates, that it gets through the aviola and the lungs, right into your bloodstream.
		Talk about exhaust.
		Like, you literally exhaust.
		Physically, it will exhaust your body.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		You can...
		Wipe your apartment down if you live in Manhattan and you try to open the windows and wipe it down twice a day.
		You'll never get rid of the dirt.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's like black stuff on the windowsill.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's jump to this next story, ladies and gentlemen.
		We covered this last week.
		Experts now even more confident a vast city exists under Giza pyramids in Egypt after new discovery.
		Scientists on a mission to prove a vast city sits more than 4,000 feet below Egypt's Giza pyramids have released a new analysis they say proves the findings to be true.
		Take a look at this.
		This is what they're claiming.
		Let's zoom out.
		They're claiming that under the pyramids, look at this, the Great Pyramid of Giza.
		How do you pronounce that?
		Kafra. Kafra and Mancare.
		Mancare? Yeah.
		Underneath it, they say there's giant vertical shafts, eight vertically aligned cylindrical structures arranged in two parallel rows from north to south, descends to a depth of more than 2,100 feet.
		And look at this.
		This is what they're claiming.
		So now you've got people like Ian claiming that they're giant batteries or something.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'll tell you the truth.
		I made a video yesterday about this, and I've been doing research on it all week.
		There's no corroborating evidence that I can find.
		This is just some Italian scientists.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They say a confidence level above 85%.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That's awesome, because I want it to be true.
		It's just, I need to see the scientific paper before I start to throw weight behind it.
		But if it was real, and they had wells underneath the pyramids that were that deep, down to the aquifers underneath, they might have been tapping into what's called a telluric current.
		It's T-E-L-L-U-R-I-C.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That sounds like something you made up.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but in fact, I didn't.
		It's called a telluric current.
		It means earth current.
		And it's this low-voltage current that travels around the planet and follows water.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Electrical current.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It didn't make it up, in fact.
		It's an electrical current that flows underground or through the sea, resulting in the natural...
		From natural and human-induced causes, extremely low frequency.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		And it'll actually go out of the Earth, out into the Sun.
		And it goes into the Sun and then comes back to the Earth through the poles, and there's this flow.
		And so Tesla, Nikola Tesla, was obsessed with tapping into the Earth's telluric current to produce power.
		So if these guys had water down there, they're tapping into this electrolyte of salt water, and then they had a conductor in these wells, it could have been sending a charge up to the top, which is where they've got these granite...
		What they call the King's Chamber in the Great Pyramid.
		It's one of them.
		It's granite.
		Everything else is limestone in the pyramid.
		It's made of granite.
		Essentially everything else.
		And why?
		Granite's a crystal.
		It vibrates.
		It's very dense.
		It's very strong.
		So they have these identical five granite structures that look like powered nodes, like power station nodes.
		And it's possible that they were vibrating and creating an electrical charge that was like a Tesla coil.
		If you hold an incandescent light up near an active Tesla coil, it lights up.
		So that these pyramids might have been lighting up the vicinity.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You think they were lighting up?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, maybe.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Because there's no fire in the pyramids.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		The oil companies have had the technology for a long time to see pretty deep with precision into the ocean floor and into the ground.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		This seems like it'd be pretty easy to figure out.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think that's what they did.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They're using non-penetrating technologies.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		We could get a second party to come in and ask BP to go in there and take a look or something.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		The problem they've had before is they were using photons, I believe, to measure.
		And if you have lots of different objects...
		You can't penetrate all the objects properly.
		They diffract and they stop each other.
		But now what this guy claims to have done, these scientists, is that they are converting photonic data into phonons, which are sound, lower frequency, and they're able to measure seismic data, seismic activity, and so they can see around everything that's inside.
		And they said, literally, these were transparent.
		With their technology, the pyramids become transparent.
		But I'm waiting on the scientific paper.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm just wondering how nobody found these before just by digging.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, like, people have gone in the pyramids.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		We're so early.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Didn't Mr. Beast go in the pyramids?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he went under the pyramids.
		Jimmy Corsetti posted about that.
		He said this is, it basically debunks this claim.
		Mr. Beast was under Jimmy, I don't know what Jimmy's last name is, Mr. Beast.
		But I'm talking about Jimmy, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Jimmy Beast.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Jimmy Beast was down there in the waterways under the pyramids, apparently.
		I guess, I don't know.
		I don't know if he was...
		I gotta ask him.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Just the idea that...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yo, what?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Look at this.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		You know, if they did have electricity, if they had access to some kind of electricity like that, I mean, that really would end up changing everything we know about history.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So what if they're gigantic, like, copper cylinders with wire winding all around them?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That'd be so cool.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That'd be terrifying, actually.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		They said those were spiral staircases, so they might have went down to those cubes.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		The cubes, apparently, I think they're hollow, and the water was flowing through the cubes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Those are stairs.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's what they said.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		2,100-foot-tall spiral staircases?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		That's what they said.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's a long staircase.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I know, because I thought they were coils.
		At first, I was like, well, you said they were made of a conductor, and those were the coils, but maybe they dipped the conductor into the well.
		It's one of the two, if that were...
		The direction they were heading.
		But then in ancient Egypt, they talked about the underworld under the pyramids where souls would go.
		I think it's Amenath or something in the Book of the Dead.
		Yeah, they talk about it.
		And people would go under the pyramids and their souls would get washed away into this flow, perhaps the taluric current.
		And from the flow would come the souls.
		And they would teach people, when you're about to die, these are the things you say to the spirits.
		This is how you navigate that realm.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You're saying that...
		Electricity doesn't exist.
		It's actually souls of all the dead people in the ground and their energy is being harnessed.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Maybe it's the same thing.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		My car runs on ghosts.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Maybe true.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Shoving ghosts into my car.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		What's weird is...
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Get around.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I had originally said it's an ancient culture before Egypt, before the Egyptians.
		10,000, 15,000 years ago, they had this technology, Atlantis, and it was washed away.
		And then the Egyptians came and they built on top of it.
		And they didn't know what the hell was going on.
		But... These underground, the pyramids, is limestone.
		And everyone's like, where did they get the limestone for the pyramids?
		Well, they dug it from underneath, apparently, if this is true.
		So it would have been the Egyptians that built on top, would have mined it then.
		But if the Egyptians built the mine, then it wouldn't have been the ancient culture that built the mine.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know what would be cool?
		If they, like, dig into there, and there's this massively advanced city.
		But, like, abandoned.
		It's been there for 4,000 years.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I hope it's abandoned.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		I hope there is.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, there's dinosaurs down there.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And they're trying to press the buttons, but their arms aren't long enough, and they're like, this sucks.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		What if there's an ancient battery?
		It's called the Baghdad battery.
		This is where it really got the idea.
		And it's a copper, or it's like a clay pot, and they'll fill it with an electrolyte, like vinegar, or wine, or something like that.
		And then they'll do the iron rod with the copper wiring, or copper rod.
		It's an iron rod with copper wiring.
		And they get an electrical charge, and then they can link the...
		So I was...
		That's the best of my submission, man.
		I hope it's real.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, this is pretty crazy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's true, though.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It is...
		I mean, apparently it is real.
		It's just a matter of, you know, can we actually figure out what it is?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Because if those scientists lied, their reputations are destroyed forever and no one will ever take them seriously for the rest of eternity.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		So why would they lie about this?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Why don't they scan under other pyramids?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		They did.
		In 2022, they scanned the Great Pyramid with the same technology.
		They have an interesting...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But what about the other pyramids in Central America?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I don't know yet.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Look, there are people that make mistakes.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		There are people out there that will swear up and down the Earth is flat.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		So listen, there was a story a couple years ago that cracked me up and reminds me about when people talk about science as if it's something you can say is exact.
		We reported on CBS when I was working there that they had found what appeared to be the oldest man that was still intact.
		And they gave some date of billions, millions of years old.
		He was naked, wearing no clothes, found him at the top of the mountain in some foreign countryside.
		We did a little reader on that on the news.
		The next day, there was a little correction on Associated Press that said...
		The daughter of the man recognized that as her father, who had disappeared a couple years ago climbing up the mountain.
		I'm like, okay, the scientist said this was the oldest guy that they'd ever seen preserved in ice, and it was really just this woman's father.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, I remember back in the day, every other day, coffee either caused or cured cancer.
		News would be like, coffee will help prevent cancer the next day.
		Coffee may actually cause cancer, and it's like, okay.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Cholesterol too.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Cholesterol good, cholesterol bad.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Remember, you know, fat was bad.
		Everybody had low fat, everything.
		Yes. Now sugar's bad.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they did that sugar-free craze.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They claim that the sugar industry ran a propaganda campaign against fat, blaming fat for weight gain and stuff.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		I think there's good evidence about it.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Katie Couric's documentary, Fed Up, is all about that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Wouldn't it be funny if in 20 years they're like, actually, fat was bad the whole time, and the fat industry ran a campaign against the sugar industry, accusing them of a...
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It's so frustrating, but I wouldn't be shocked.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		To be fair, though, you need fat to regulate hormones?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And so when people were cutting all that fat out of their diets and eating gelatin and other garbage, like gum.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Especially saturated fats.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Those are good.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		To be fair, you look at cows getting fat, not eating fat, but eating hay and corn.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		That's what makes them fat.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Actually, I think cows eat bacteria.
		Isn't that what they do?
		Yeah, they chew on the cud.
		The bacteria then starts growing on it.
		So they eat the grass.
		It goes in their stomach.
		They spit it up, chew on it again.
		The bacteria grows on it, and then their body digests the bacteria.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		Is that the good stuff we want in our gut?
		You know how they say we have to have the good?
		All right.
		We should chew our cud.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Haven't you been doing deep dives on health?
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		Not that.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		But yeah, I've been doing deep dives on some of the stuff you guys are alluding to about the manipulation of the health information and why we've got all these chronic health disorders.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, you saw the West Virginia banning artificial dyes.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I reported on that, in fact.
		I think a lot of bans are about to come because this has been on the precipice of it with the FDA taking action.
		Finally, on the eve of Donald Trump taking office, they finally have decided to take action on a couple of these things like red dye.
		Number three, I think they're going to ban fluoride.
		You know, everybody says that's a conspiracy theory.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You think the government's going to ban fluoride in water?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah. Why do you think that?
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		There's been a court decision in California that, I don't know why more people haven't reported it, but based on the scientific evidence that has established that fluoride at levels typically found in...
		When was this ruling?
		In the last six months.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		September? Ish.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		And the court ordered the EPA to make a determination as to...
		What should be done to make it safe?
		And since there's no way to make it safe because you can't regulate how much fluoride a person gets because you don't know how much water an individual is drinking or getting in all of their products.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's start from the top because I pulled this up.
		This is from CBS News.
		Federal court rules against EPA in lawsuit over fluoride in water.
		Is this the story that you're talking about?
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but you could look at Full Measure with Sheryl Ackeson and see an even better story.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's pull that up.
unidentified		Excuse me.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So what's the gist of this?
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		The gist is the court agrees there's overwhelming scientific evidence as to the risks and dangers of fluoride in water, and the EPA is under an order now to come up with some kind of policy decision that there seems to be no way out.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		The EPA cannot certify that fluoride is safe in the water, so as a result, they're going to have to likely admit that it's not safe, which will then mean states can't, states, communities, cities, and so on.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So CBS says a federal court in California ruled late Tuesday against the EPA ordering officials take action over concerns about potential health risks from currently recommended levels of fluoride in the American drinking water supply.
		The ruling by D.C.
		Judge Edward Chen, an appointee of Obama, deals a blow to public health groups in the growing debate about whether the benefits of continuing to add fluoride to the water outweighs the rest.
		I am confused.
		Are they saying public health groups want fluoride in water?
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		Yes, because they're bought out by the fluoride industry, which is a very well-funded and orchestrated propaganda campaign that began when it was discovered that fluoride was a byproduct of industrial processes and was too dangerous to dispose of in the ground.
		I think we're talking 1920s, 1930s.
		Industries were going to have to figure out a way, and it was going to be expensive, to dispose of the dangerous fluoride.
		And instead, they found a way to market it to communities as something that we should put...
		They're supposed to keep it out of the environment, but then they sold it to communities as a way to put it in your environment and in your food and in your water and make your teeth better.
		And the evidence was dubious, and there are questions over whether the studies actually even showed that was the case.
		But there's no doubt now, I think if you look at it, the overwhelming body of science, particularly the independent science that's not connected to industry, shows there's all kinds of health.
		Yeah. And think about children, little babies and so on.
		It can have all kinds of harmful effects.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We've got this from SF Chronicle.
		This California city is fluoride-free.
		Dentists there worry about the trend spreading.
		I've always loved this because it's like, I have fluoride in my toothpaste.
		I don't need to eat it.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		You don't.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You're supposed to not eat it.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		In fact, there's a question as to whether you're not supposed to eat it and how bad it may be when you're drinking it, how much benefit that can be to your teeth.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Here's a story from Royals.
		EPA must address fluoridated water's risk to children's IQs, U.S. judge rules.
		So I got a story for you guys.
		I had a friend 20 years ago whose sister had a kid.
		And I walked through his kitchen and it had nursery water with added fluoride.
		And I said, why are you giving fluoride water to the baby?
		And they said, it's nursery water, it's for babies.
		And I said, no, you don't give, babies don't have teeth.
		And they were like, no, no, babies need fluoride.
		And I was like, no, they don't.
		They don't need fluoride.
		She didn't believe me.
		So I just googled fluoride babies and everything that popped up was a warning, do not give your baby fluoride.
		And I said, why are they giving fluoridated water to babies?
		This is currently right now, they sell this in stores, extra fluoride water for babies.
		Babies don't have teeth.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		Should not be legal.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Is it just pure profit?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		What did you find?
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's a propaganda campaign that's bolstered by the industry that then teaches dentists, who some of them may not know better, because like med schools, the dental schools are conflicted by industry teachings and so on.
		And it's just become this thing.
		But again, if you look, there's quite a body of science that undercuts any notion that this is something where the benefits outweigh the risks.
		And finally, now that a court has agreed, an important federal court, the EPA has to make a decision.
		And this was said before Trump took office, but now with Trump in office, there's a chance they may do the logical, scientific thing.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's important to know that fluoride, as far as I know, and this could be wrong, but what I've learned is it is good, well, good maybe, for the enamel, for tooth enamel.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It mineralizes enamel.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If you're an adult and you have teeth and you're brushing your teeth with it, you spit it out and don't swallow it.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		But even then, it gets on your gums and goes into the bloodstream through the gum.
		Sure. So that's toxin, if you would consider it a toxin.
		Don't swallow it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		A lot of things are, okay?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You put a lot of things on your skin that you don't actually want to use.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Exactly, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, you shouldn't put paint on your skin, but there are chemicals you can put on your skin you can't eat, right?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You're not going to eat deodorant.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Correct, correct.
		You don't get much.
		If you spit it out, you're not getting it all.
		You don't want to swallow it.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		How about this?
		They outlawed red dye number three in cosmetics a couple decades ago, but left it in the food under a technicality where they just didn't process that part.
		Well, you saw that RFK Jr. wants to get rid of the grass exceptions, but generally recognized as safe.
		Oh, yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So we talked about propylene glycol, which is used as—I forgot what the word is, but it's to make food seem moist.
		It's this jelly— It's an antifreeze.
		They say it's fine to eat, so they put it in...
		If you go to a gas station to buy a bakery product, it's probably got propylene glycol in it.
		It simulates moistness, because otherwise they dry out.
		Then there's trisodium phosphate.
		Some guy had a viral video where he said, this is in Cinnamon Toast Crunch, but if you look at the bag of trisodium phosphate, it says, harmful if ingested.
		So how is it in our food?
		Also, generally recognized as safe.
		RFK Jr. says he's going to get rid of this exception.
		And that anybody who wants to put any kind of chemicals in food has to get them tested for the health effects on humans.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it makes sense.
		I don't understand.
		It's one of the most important things that we could be doing.
		It's what we're feeding our kids.
		I'm older than you guys.
		But as a kid, we used to read cereal boxes in the morning because there was nothing else to do.
		We didn't have, you know, phones.
		And we would read the ingredients and we'd quiz each other.
		And I always saw BHA and BHT added for freshness.
		And as a joke, before I started covering these things, maybe a decade or two ago, I would say to my siblings, what if we find out BHA and BHT added for freshness is actually like causing cancer or bad force?
		It is.
		These are preservatives that they now recognize have all kinds of issues that they've been shoving into cereal that we've been spooning to ourselves and our kids.
		Why is that allowed?
		You know, the generally recognized safe.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I wonder why, because obviously it's profitable.
		So they're paying people off to not to look the other way.
		But it's like just in the US, a lot of these, and they're banned in Europe.
		So is this like European bankers that are like, let's destroy America from the inside.
		We'll profit and we'll poison them.
		This is great.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		It just seems to be that the US has been easier for whatever reason.
		It probably happens in Europe as well.
		But we've been the kings of being able to be captured by industry when I'm talking about our political parties and our agencies.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Do you think it's really, I mean, it's impossible to derive if it's...
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		What kind of malfeasance is going on, but you think it's mostly profit from your research?
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, I think these special interests have figured out how to control our information landscape.
		That's the realm in which I work, and I've written a lot about this, and as such have been able to control a lot about any kind of regulation and hearings and rules that would take place in laws.
		So it's just sort of a free-for-all for them.
		And then the media, because we're captured, we're not doing the proper oversight.
		We used to kind of be the equalizer.
		We could step in if maybe members of Congress were corrupt and the federal agencies weren't doing their job.
		There were we.
		But now we've stepped back too because starting, in my view, around the 2005-2006 time period, we got captured worse than ever before.
		And now you don't see the media doing the fair, dual-sided stories as much.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Abolish the FDA too.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I mean, if they exist and all these things have happened that are negatively impacting people, then the FDA is not fit for purpose.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I'd be open to retrofitting the FDA.
		If it actually worked, let's get rid of it.
		But some oversight might be nice.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		That's what insurance companies are for.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I disagree.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think we need more regulation.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You've got to protect the dumb masses.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's not about protect the dumb masses.
		It's that the average person doesn't understand.
		When they put yellow 5 on a food box, what is that?
		And the average person just thinks yellow dye is, like, not a big deal.
		If they were forced to actually put the name of that product, and they should be, how about we play this game?
		Don't ban the artificial dyes.
		Name them.
		So yellow 5, they would put tartrazine, parentheses, coal tar derivative.
		See if people want to eat that.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		Okay. Do you guys know about the UCAP?
unidentified		Mm-mm.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		So it does kind of what you're saying, why I love it.
		You can use this and scan anything at the grocery store, even cosmetics.
		I accidentally scanned something or stuff you put on your face.
		And it not only tells you the health stuff, which I think a lot of apps do, like what's good or what's bad.
		It tells you these additives and chemicals and preservatives and what they cause.
		So instead of having that cute little name, you can click the button.
		It rates the food good, bad, poor, whatever.
		But then it tells you why.
		And when I'm looking at food now...
		If it says, oh, maybe it's got a little too much fat in it, I'm okay with that.
		I'm looking for the chemical stuff in there and the cancer-causing stuff.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I got bad news for Maha.
		I got bad news, Phil.
		We can tell people that we want to make food better.
		We can ban artificial dyes.
		We can do all of those things.
		But there is a commercial on TV, several actually, where a man eats a slice of pizza and then goes, oh!
		And then it's like, your favorite food's causing you pain?
		Take this pill.
		I'm not going to name what drug it is.
		He then takes the pill and smiles and eats the pizza.
		And I'm just sitting there thinking like, dude, if doing something is hurting you, you're supposed to stop doing it.
		But imagine there's a guy putting his hand on an electric stove and going, oh, it burns, but I really want to.
		So we take this painkiller.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		This Novocaine in your hand.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		And he's like, ah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Now I can keep doing this thing.
		It's like, bro, you're hurting yourself.
		People will choose to eat things that kill them.
		And take drugs to mask the pain.
		So I don't think that actually labeling the food is going to save the average person.
		That being said, there's a mom out there who doesn't know when she buys cereal that she's giving her kids some pesticide or some other garbage.
		And if she did, she wouldn't buy it.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, like hyperlinks.
		We're not there yet.
		We're still using paper where you just can't...
		Touch a piece of paper and get a hyperlink.
		But soon, maybe with graphene, you know, if our labels are also have an electrical current going through them, they can store a little bit of a charge and they have Wi-Fi access, you can tap the label on the ingredient and it will take you to show you the issues.
		And it'll be red if there's health concerns associated with the ingredient.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		But here's the thing.
		A lot of these products are already less adulterated in Europe, for example.
		And I think all Kennedy needs to do, and I think he has plans to do this, is require more disclosure and warnings, and some will just change the recipe.
		I mean, a lot of them will choose not to put the warning on there, but to adopt a recipe that they're already using in Europe because they don't allow it there.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think, you know, West Virginia is banning artificial dyes.
		At first I was thinking this could shift the national food supply, as big companies are going to say.
		It's probably cheaper just to change our product than lose West Virginia entirely as a market.
		But then I remembered what these companies said about why they use these dyes in the first place.
		When they tried using the natural food dyes, which are actually in some instances cheaper, they didn't sell as well.
		People wanted the brighter, vibrant colors.
		So they tried using blueberries and carrots.
		They switched back to artificial dyes.
		They're going to say, if we switch to these dull colors using fruit dyes, We're going to lose a billion dollars.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		West Virginia is not the only one.
		I think there's a dozen states or more that are looking at the same.
		It's a trend because people are starting to recognize it.
		And maybe there's some hope in the idea that you're right.
		A lot of people are still going to choose to do what they want to do regardless of the disclosure.
		But I think a lot of people aren't.
		You talk about the moms that wouldn't be giving their kids that cereal.
		They're either going to have to change the formula of cereal or at least offer some better choices.
		I think it'll be...
		There will be a big difference for a lot of people.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I saw an episode of I think it was Diary of a CEO and they were talking about that alcohol with Gen Z is like 20% what it used to be.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Like this generation is awake when it comes to health.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
		People aren't drinking sodas anymore.
		That's why they're doing all these soda commercials now where they're bragging about how they have low sugar options.
		But it's because the younger generations are not drinking sodas.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		Do you know, I drank a Coke every day, at least once since I was a kid, because that's my coffee in the morning, and I stopped, I think, three and a half weeks ago today.
		Wow. No Coke.
		Awesome. I listened to a podcast about sugars and sucrose and fructose, and I'm like, oh, dang, something else I gotta...
		Cut out, but it's so bad.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Not just shocking the liver and turning into fat.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and the insulin and your metabolism.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You'll also notice that millennials tend to say, how come people looked so much older back then?
		Like, they show pictures of the Seinfeld cast, and they're like, these people were in their early 30s, like late 20s, early 30s, and they looked like they were 40s, late 40s.
		What was causing it?
		I think it's actually pretty easy.
		Three things.
		The first is the obvious.
		They drank a lot more back then.
		They smoked a lot more back then.
		But more importantly, they also went outside a lot more.
		And the sun damages your skin.
		So you combine those things.
		The reason why I think that the current, you know, millennials and Gen Z look a lot younger.
		Even Gen X looks a lot younger.
		A lot less time spent outdoors.
		A lot less sun damage on the skin.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		What is your theory about Donald Trump?
		So he's 78 years old.
		My husband's 78 years old.
		He's got a lot of health issues and problems.
		But I know a lot of 78-year-old guys.
		I don't know any of them that move and act like Donald Trump.
		Trump never drank.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Okay. He claims to have never had a drink.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		And you know it's true, because if anyone had ever seen him sip anything, we'd know about it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, they've claimed it, but his story is that he's never had a drink.
		His brother was an alcoholic, and it terrified him.
		And so he stayed away from it.
		Some people have argued they've seen him holding drinks at parties, and that's their proof.
		B.S. You'll see me holding a drink at a party.
		It's going to be a club soda with a splash of cranberry, and it's not alcoholic.
		So they may have seen Trump holding something.
		It could have been apple juice, for all they know.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		So the other day...
		During the interview, which I mentioned, he was three hours late because he was talking to NATO and dealing with Russia.
		And he walks in, having not had dinner yet, because I asked him, late.
		And he strolls in like a guy who's 30 years old.
		I know he doesn't look like he's 30. I'm not saying that.
		But he moves like a boss.
		And I'm thinking, I don't know 78-year-old guys.
		And I do wonder, is it true that you destroy all the brain cells?
		You know, you heard when you were a kid.
		I did.
		You destroy 10,000 brain cells every time you get drunk.
		Do you ever hear that?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Something like that.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		There's a phenomenon called neurogenesis where your body recreates neurons and grows new neurons.
		And Trump might just because, you know, he's living his best self.
		He's like truly in line with God, whether you like him or not.
		He's like being his ultimate version of who he can be.
		So he's aligned.
		He's not stressed.
		He doesn't seem stressed about secrets and all these.
		He's like just doing.
		So that keeps you young, you know, doing what you love.
		Also, and this is maybe too hot for TV, but.
		A lot comes down to prostate health and guys that, you know, the word is ejaculate five times a week.
		There's science about, like, that can keep you extremely healthy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You're saying Donald Trump's.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I did not know that.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he might just be like, Melania, you are the hottest, like, and you know she's down.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And the reason she always looks so frumpy is because she's tired.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah. I mean, can you imagine keeping up with that guy?
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		We are in labor.
		With Timcast in the background.
		Oh, wow.
		Congratulations. Hopefully welcoming our baby girl into the world soon.
		Congratulations. I recommend it.
		Recommend it as a new father myself.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It's very inspiring.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, what's funny is, I can't speak for all parents, but I see these movies where the baby's crying and the parents are getting frustrated.
		Like, I don't understand why you're crying.
		I do not feel any annoyance or any anger or anything when the baby cries.
		It's usually just, you know, she's hungry.
		And then when Allison's like either getting a bottle ready, because we're trying not to do formula, but we do a little bit, and she's just screaming, I just got a smile on my face.
		You know, baby's crying, she's screaming like the world's ending, but it's okay, in one minute your bottle will be here, and then she stops.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		Does Allison have, so as a mom, I had a involuntary reaction of just sweat and...
		I need to help the baby.
		I didn't even mean to.
		My husband was very calm and collected, and I would just be like, I gotta help the baby, gotta help the baby.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I just need to say this, okay, because as a new father, again, there's a lot of dads out there and a lot of moms who already know everything, and way more than I do.
		I am shocked by the pro-life arguments missing some of the most important points.
		I've been watching pro-life, pro-choice debates my whole life, and it was only...
		I think, I don't know, within the past few years that I learned why formula was so important when the formula shortage happened.
		I was like, we need formula for.
		I had never experienced it.
		And there were parents who were like, sometimes mom doesn't produce enough milk.
		And then baby goes hungry and is screaming and needs that food because baby can lose weight very quickly.
		And I was like, really?
		I never considered that.
		So I see these arguments.
		And there was one recently where the woman said, you know, a baby's not alive.
		It's the mother's body.
		It's just a fetus.
		And the woman said, at what point is the baby alive?
		The woman then says, once it's able to survive on its own.
		And the woman said, well, babies can't take care of themselves, right?
		Someone's got to take care of them.
		Wrong. Babies literally need mother's milk.
		Like, babies can't eat food.
		How about that?
		You tell the pro-choice people, like, when the baby's born and it's able to survive on its own, oh, you what, you mean it like six, seven months maybe?
		When it can start eating mashed fruits?
		For that whole period, the baby can literally only have breast milk.
		We only recently invented formula because babies can't digest real food.
		So that meant up until the mid-1900s, babies were literally eating nothing but mother's breast milk.
		So when they say things like, oh, once the baby's born and now it's...
		That's not true.
		The mother...
		The baby is still very much attached to that mother.
		So I think...
		I was just surprised that that's not a...
		I was going to say it's almost like there's still one organism.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		There's still a connected organism.
		Even though they're separated by space, there's still kind of...
		I mean, I'm still connected to my mother, you know?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is why I said after the instructions from the doctor, I was immediately against surrogacy.
		The doctor explained that mothers produce breast milk specifically formulated for the baby.
		The baby's saliva...
		Triggers a reaction in the breast, and the breast produces a specific balance of fats, proteins, and sugars.
		And I went, what?
		Because the doctor was explaining that sometimes you'll see different fat concentrations.
		And then when we asked about it, she was like, well, for instance, premature babies.
		There'll be a thick layer of fat in the breast milk after the mother pumps.
		And I'm like, why is that?
		Because the mother's body is reacting to the premature baby's saliva and producing a specific formula.
		And I'm like, so then what is formula we give babies?
		A baseline generic, we hope it works?
		And I'm like, whoa!
		So, the baby could be lacking fats and sickly, and your formula is not doing enough for it.
		And if it was breastfeeding from the mother, it's getting the proper balance of nutrients.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		You know, that's similar to if a husband and a wife were about to have a baby and they used a sperm donor.
		You might think, like, is this still my child, even though that wasn't my sperm?
		Is it still my child if it's not my wife's breast milk?
		If it's some corporation's thing, is that still my...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Offspring. And then I started reading about this.
		Milk siblings?
		Do you know what that is?
		Back in the day, because it is true, today we use formula because we're a very anti-social society.
		Wet nurses.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		I just want to see if you knew about wet nurses.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Women were typically always nursing because they're having lots of babies.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So if a mother was not producing enough, or a new mother wasn't producing at all, it was just colostrum, they would actually give the baby to another mother to provide milk for someone else's baby, and they would be called milk siblings.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		And my mom said that when she would have to go do something, she had friends that had babies, they would just breastfeed each other's babies while the one was out.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah. It was a normal thing for hundreds of thousands of years of humanity.
		Today, we invented formula, and now we're very antisocial.
		We don't talk to our neighbors.
		This concept doesn't exist.
		And formula does not give your baby everything you need.
		Let me tell you guys.
		To all the guys out there who've already been through there who are chuckling right now, I had to go to the store to buy formula, and I'm looking at the ingredients, and I was just like, absolutely not.
		Corn syrup and soy?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Would you make your own?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Have you looked into making your own?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So we got the best.
		This is why the European stuff is so popular.
		The stuff that we got is the best you can get.
		And we were trying to find not necessarily hypoallergenic stuff, but there's like sensitive formulas.
		And then I look at it, it's like soybean oil, corn syrup, and our doctors were telling us, don't give that to your kid.
		And we're like, what do we do?
		That's crazy.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		You know about Operation Stork Speed?
		Yes. So there is, I can't remember the name of it, but there are things in baby formula that are forbidden in adult food, but baby formula has an exemption because the baby formula makers want to have it in there so badly and did some kind of lobbying.
		So something that's not safe for adults.
		Is now allowed in baby formula, and he's trying to fix all that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I just want to stress one more time, like, the best pro-life argument I heard, the best anti-surrogacy argument I've heard, is that mothers produce a specific formula for the babies, and that store-bought formula does not give the baby what it needs.
		That's very, very important.
		Not to mention, if someone is having a surrogate baby...
		And I don't mean this for women who are unable to have children so they get a surrogate and the women can still lactate.
		I'm talking about when it's like two guys going to another country, having the baby, and then bringing it back to their country, but will formula feed the baby.
		That baby is not getting its nutrients.
		It's babies can't eat food.
		Anyway, we should read more chats.
		What do we got over here with the Rumble Rants?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		All right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Concrete Hades says, why is the government of Canada allowed to buy ads?
		Crying about tariffs in the U.S. I'll help end foreign influence as governor, Jesse for Ohio.
		I got no problem with them buying ads.
		Let them buy the ads and then we'll rag on them.
		I don't know.
		Just TV.
		H. Charles Foster III says, Ian, the Dems have been the party of bloated bureaucracy and of burdening constitutional rights over 150 years.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Is that true?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah. I mean, I guess that was the old Republican Party.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		No. No.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Other way around.
		The old Democratic Party became the Republicans.
		Nope. What the hell am I thinking about?
		Propaganda. Abraham Lincoln.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Abraham Lincoln was a Republican.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah. And the Republicans still very much have very similar ethos.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Didn't they say the parties flipped at some point?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Never happened.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Not literally, but...
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		Nope. That's a story that's told that's disputed.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's just not true.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Okay. Yep.
		I like your comment.
		Thank you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The actual story I prefer is that...
		Democrats in the civil rights era realized that their racist policy—the Democrats of the party of Jim Crow, segregation.
		The Democrats were the pro-parties for slavery.
		The Confederates were the Democrats.
		After the end of the Civil War, the Democrats were the ones that maintained racism and all of these things.
		Into the 1950s, the Democrats were the ones that were supporting segregation.
		And the theory is, at some point, they realized, wait a minute, we are going about this the wrong way.
		We can't be the party that's antagonistic.
		It's not working.
		We've continually been on the outside.
		We've got to flip this around.
		So the Democrats decided to adopt welfare policies and the destruction of the black family and Planned Parenthood and abortion as a means of destroying the black community and keeping them down.
		That actually aligns much better with history as far as from what I've read.
		This idea that at some point the Democrats just had an epiphany.
		Well, we've been for segregation for 150 years.
		Let's be against racism all of a sudden.
		Makes literally no sense.
		When you look at the results of what Democrat policy does to minority communities, you're kind of going, I think they don't like minorities.
		I think they're just pretending.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		The Black Panthers had, like, the government really went after weed in order to keep the Black Panthers and the hippies down because they were afraid of political revolution.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		So it might be that they don't want an underclass revolution, so they've kind of separated and controlled them with bureaucracy.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		Planned Parenthood.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And did you know that most Planned Parenthoods are in minority neighborhoods?
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		But Sanger, you know, they disavowed the founder on the Planned Parenthood website now because she talked about, you know...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Because it was eugenics.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, eugenics.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Alex Gray says, Alex Rosen is in jail.
		He's charged with disturbing the peace and trespassing for exposing a pedophile at a steak and shake who employs and is protecting him.
		Peto not arrested.
		You know, I will say this, though.
		You've got to be careful.
		Because sooner or later, they're going to manipulate this.
		They're going to catfish him, and they're going to set him up so that he gets arrested.
		He's going to find some random guy.
		He's going to have messages that he's pretty sure are from this guy, but this guy is not the person who said it was a catfish, and they're going to get him arrested.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's a good point.
		You've got to be careful about that.
		It could very well be like, I'll be sitting in a booth at the restaurant, and then they go there, and there's some guy sitting in a booth at a restaurant.
		It's like, not the guy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But they could set somebody up, too.
		So they could take pictures of you.
		And then, hey, here's me!
		And then they show up, and you're sitting there like, bro, I know what you're talking about.
		I didn't message anybody.
		And then people can get arrested.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		Like being swatted, but with...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There have been stories.
		If you watch these videos, not Alex Rosen, because he's more meticulous, but there was a video recently where some guys were attacking a guy, and it was the wrong guy.
		And then the cops came up, and then they were like, Matt, we're sorry, we got the wrong guy.
		That's why vigilante justice is scary.
		Scary stuff.
		But I like Alex Rosen, you know.
		All right.
		The QuietPartPod says, Tim, as far as strength goes, the U.S. has already conquered the world.
		Think about it.
		We literally have bases everywhere, supplemented by our naval fleet, which is mobile.
		Nobody can stand against us.
		Indeed, that's correct.
unidentified		I don't know.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Not everywhere.
		Not literally everywhere, obviously.
		Do we have a base in Beijing?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No. Well, the reality, though, is if the BRICS nations rose up all at once, we lose.
		Well, maybe we don't lose, but the United States can't stand alone.
		If we got a BRICS versus NATO...
		It'll be interesting to see who wins.
		The U.S. is very powerful in that regard.
		But the U.S. is not stronger than all of its adversaries.
		All right, let's see what we got in the old Superjet department.
		Robert Romano says, tariffs are medicine.
		Take your medicine.
		Well, okay.
		I like that.
		What do we have here?
		Zero Noose says, Tim, I saw Canadian government paid for advertising on I-75 that say tariffs are a tax on your groceries.
		Well, they're lying.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Whatever. Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Kelly Adams says, Tim, congrats on your baby girl.
		I usually watch IRL the morning after, but tonight I'd like to join in the fun and announce the birth of my second son, Elijah.
		Hey! God bless.
		Congratulations. Phil, more go-to-the-gym posts.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Fair enough.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I've been moving, so we've been slacking.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Do you document your gym activity normally on Twitter?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Usually I just go and I'll post it.
		Like, if I go to the gym, I'll just put a little quick video, like, go to the gym.
		You know, just something to keep people motivated.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Matthew Morrell says, did anyone hear that we bombed Yemen again, like for the millionth time?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		We've been bombing them for days.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Oh, man.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the funny thing is, I think the whole story's a hoax.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Bombing Yemen?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
		I think the signal story is intentional.
		There's not going to be any resignations.
		There was no hard...
		So everyone's debating whether the information should have been classified or was classified.
		It wasn't classified because they deemed it not classified.
		They announced to Jeffrey Goldberg, a journalist, two hours before the strikes, the time in which F-18s would launch.
		They did not describe specific weapons other than that they would be delivered, the vehicles, and they did not specify targets.
		So there was nothing absolutely critical.
		More importantly...
		Governments looping journalists on this stuff all the time.
		If the Trump administration had come out and said, when asked, like, why did Jeffrey Goldberg get on this?
		If Tulsi Gabbard just chuckled, we were trying to loop a journalist in on our thought process for the strikes on Yemen, and he was invited to our chat.
		We wanted to have an adversarial journalist access to the decision-making process.
		We did not include confidential information.
		We wanted them to see our process.
		The confidential discussion of sources, targets, and otherwise was held in a skiff.
		There'd be no story whatsoever.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Did they end up following through with the plans from the chat?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But to clarify, nothing was specified.
unidentified		Because it just said the target will be hit.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		One thing you could do if you were like, we talked about this a little bit on The Green Show, if you were about to plan a military operation, say we're going to invade from the east.
		You go and you get a journalist and you tell them, we'll be invading from the west.
		And then they go out and they spill the beans and tell the world fake information that you intended the world, because you don't want your enemy to know where you're coming.
		So you want the journalist to be confused.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Actually, they don't do that.
		The military often invites journalists to ride along with them on operations.
		That's why I'm like, this is not a story at all.
		The only story is that Jeffrey Goldberg's an adversarial journalist.
		So I think it's possible that they accidentally added him, but that seems so weird.
		Then you look at what was actually said in these messages, and it's exactly the message that Trump wanted to get out.
		We're reluctant to strike the Houthis.
		We don't want to.
		Our trade doesn't work there.
		Egypt and Europe must remunerate.
		We're the only ones who can do it.
		We have no choice.
		I'm like, what?
		That's the greatest messaging on a missile strike I've ever heard from any administration in my life.
		When Obama was blowing up kids, they just said, well, they're military-aged males, so they're enemy combatants.
		And we were like, what?
		Or when Luke asked them about killing Anwar al-Awlaki and Abdulrahman al-Awlaki, and it was, who was it?
		It was the Obama administration guy who said he should have had a better father.
		And the narrative is J.D. Vance saying, we're making a mistake here, guys.
		We shouldn't do this.
		And people are praising the Trump administration.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		Let me ask you this, because I didn't read all the messages, but I heard a whole bunch of them read, and all of them were saying they agree it doesn't have to be done now, but then they went ahead and did it.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		No, only a couple.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Okay. A couple people were saying we could wait a month, and then I think Hegseth was saying we are the only ones who can do this.
		We need to move now, but the president has final say.
		The only thing questionable about it was that it said F-18s will launch.
		And it named the vehicles.
		It didn't name specific weapons or targets.
unidentified		So, I don't buy it.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		I do.
		Well, I don't know what it is exactly, but I think there was malfeasance.
		Someone screwed up and should be fired.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		How do you accidentally do that?
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Or maybe someone intentionally did it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Someone intentionally sabotaged.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Which is like, not just firing, that's prosecution if they intentionally did it.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		No firing.
		No one gets fired.
		No one loses their job.
		The Biden administration got 13 Marines killed and there was no repercussions for it.
		Anyone in any position?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't even care.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		The Republicans do not give anything.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I want to throw that talking point in the garbage.
		We don't need an if-this-then-that.
		Biden did a bad thing, therefore excuse us here.
		No, literally nothing happened.
		Richard Engel was on the ground in Syria during military operations.
		He knows exactly where they're going, when they're going there, a day in advance.
		He brought his iPhone with him to Syria.
		And I actually asked him this.
		This is NBC News, a foreign correspondent.
		Why would you bring your personal device into Syria?
		You know the Assad regime probably scanned and copied all of that information.
		And he was shocked.
		He didn't understand.
		So when they say two hours before a journalist had accessed the information, I say, what else is new?
		They often loop in journalists all the time.
		If the argument is it was an accidental ad and it could have been some random person.
		That's an argument.
		If you want to make an argument, they shouldn't be conducting these conversations on Signal, which delete the messages.
		That I completely agree with.
		These should be in the public record that we should be able to go back to when we subpoena at a certain point in time.
		Disappearing messages are bad for government.
		But the idea that a journalist got access to information, I'm like, I've reported on stories where the government's given me heads up.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		I just want to know who in that group had the Trump-hating...
		I would be concerned if I were Trump that there are people...
		He's notorious for having people that were turncoats in the first term working against him while pretending to work for him.
		I'm sure there is still...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I have got probably 50 adversarial journalists in my phone.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		You're not Donald Trump or a political figure that's been fighting that?
		That was really...
		The downfall of a lot of initiatives he tried to make the first term.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If the argument is, at this point, we realize the pitfalls of being in communication with these guys, maybe we should remove them from these work phones.
		Fine. But I am not surprised to hear that Mike Waltz had the editor-in-chief of The Atlantic in his phone.
		Trump gives comments to these news organizations all the time.
		I think, I cannot, I'm sorry, I'm hearing this from almost nobody, but I really do think Trump did it on purpose.
		Maybe, I don't know.
		You had this story about a judge and Donald Trump and blocking Trendy Aragua and the deportations.
		Leftists are fundraising off it like crazy.
		They're launching lawsuits.
		All of a sudden, a nothing burger story pops up and it's the apocalypse for the left.
		People should be fired.
		Democrats argue this all the time and did during his first term.
		Trump intentionally makes scandals to distract from his actual operations.
		The Houthi strikes was last week.
		And now the only thing the media can do is talk about it.
		There's nothing in the messages, literally nothing, except for positive pro-Trump messaging.
		The Atlantic now published all of Donald Trump, all the messaging from Trump's cabinet and the security personnel that make him look good.
		He's being praised by Trump supporters who were before attacking him for bombing the Houthis.
		When Donald Trump bombed Yemen, everybody started sharing the video of my interview with him where I said, why are they bombing Yemen?
		And he said, we shouldn't be doing that.
		Now, all of a sudden, everyone's saying Trump did a good job.
		Look at the messaging.
		J.D. Vance is a patriot.
		He's saying we shouldn't be doing this.
		They're expecting remuneration.
		It's making Trump look good.
		You look at these messages.
		Who did it get leaked to?
		An adversarial journalist they knew would publish it, knew would make it a big story.
		Why are they having these conversations?
		Why does it sound so canned?
		Why is there no shorthand in text messages?
		Come on, everybody who texts and you're in a group text knows that there's a lot of shorthand.
		Now, granted, there were some emojis, but this read like it was scripted.
		Like they were sitting there laughing, like, you think Jeffrey Goldberg's buying it?
		And then a week after the strike...
		They made Trump the good guy on the Yemen strike story.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		But who's the audience?
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		Because I would argue if you walked around on the streets, almost nobody you ask will know who the Houthis are or anything.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And they say that in the messages.
		They say literally, why are we going to strike them?
		It's a mistake.
		Most Americans don't even know who the Houthis are.
		Then what happens?
		The Atlantic publishes a story explaining exactly what Trump wanted explained.
		Maybe not Trump, but his team.
		It sounds to me like this was manufactured.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		Vance is smart enough to do that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Look at it this way.
		Trump goes, we're going to strike the Houthis.
		J.D. Vance says, Mr. President, with all due respect, this goes against your messaging.
		This is in private.
		We do this, your base will be mad at you.
		It's okay, what do we do?
		We can put out a statement.
		We can try and explain why we got to do it.
		Nobody will run that.
		If we make a statement, it's going to get picked up by the right-wing press and they're going to attack the president and say, don't do it.
		It's wrong.
		We have to do it, and we have to get the story out.
		Here's one idea.
		Let's make a phone, a group text, loop in a journalist so that he publishes our messaging the way we want it, and then we'll see how that story goes.
		They give them the information right before the strike happens, which Trump could have put out in a press release.
		Strikes have commenced.
		This guy waits a little while, publishes a story.
		It's national news for a week.
		Instead of talking about Trendy Aragua, instead of talking about the Mahmoud Khalil and all these other people, where Democrats use the PR to fundraise, you end up with them talking about a nothing burger text message to a journalist.
		Where I will stress, if the response from Tulsi Gabbard and Pete Hegseth was right at the gate, what do you mean we invited Jeffrey Goldberg to our chat?
		Well, he's saying you accidentally looped him in.
		What? No, we intentionally looped him in.
		I'm sorry, I don't quite understand.
		We let a journalist into our chat as we were discussing our plans for Yemen.
		We routinely disclose information to journalists when it's not classified.
		Jeffrey Goldberg would look like a moron.
		Instead, they went, whoopsie-daisy, and now it's a national story for a week.
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		Maybe. What'll bolster that is if there is, and this is probably the case, because it doesn't look like anybody's going to be...
		You know, punished for it.
		If nobody's punished for it, if they don't say we got to the bottom of who added it and here's who did it and here's who's fired, then that bolstered.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They already said it.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		No one should get fired.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But they already said it.
		Trump already said no one will be fired.
		We're done.
		Story's over.
		And I'm like, this is fake.
		And the left eats it up because they want the story of Trump to be a moron.
		Look, this is PR 101.
		This is like entry-level public relations.
		Do you guys remember Tucker Max?
		Yep. Tucker Max.
		Bought a billboard for his book, and then he was working with Ryan Holiday.
		And the story goes, I don't know if exactly all the credit goes to Ryan Holiday for this, because I think someone, there was an argument over it, but Tucker Max had a book.
		I think it was Ryan Holiday.
		They defamed their own billboard.
		Then, the next morning, they called a radio station and said, yo, someone graffitied up this billboard.
		They organized their own protests.
		That way the news would report protests had started.
		It's like Kevin Smith.
		Went outside during the filming of Dogma and gave interviews at the protests of his own film.
		This is really low-tier basic PR manipulation stuff.
		Hey, Lupin, who's a journalist we hate?
		Goldberg, he'll do it.
		Write down exactly what the message needs to be.
		He'll publish it.
		No one's going to get fired.
		The Democrats are saying Hegseth should be fired.
		He's not even the one who started the group chat.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		It wouldn't be him.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That would make sense.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		If anybody got fired, it would be whoever added the journalist.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		And that's only if it was a mistake.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It might have been an intern.
		In which case, there is the scapegoat.
		Trump's message is espoused by the Atlantic to everybody.
		They talk about it for a week.
		Everybody on the right sees J.D. Vance saying, we can't do this.
		We're reluctant.
		Pete Hexas saying, we have no choice.
		Then reminding the American people, don't worry, Egypt and Europe must remunerate on this.
		I'm like, that is Donald Trump giving a speech at a rally.
		All of his talking points.
		The talking points before was Trump should not bomb Yemen.
		Now it's, look at this deep, thoughtful communication.
		The statement from the spokesperson was hilarious.
		This appears to be a genuine communication of deep and thoughtful communications on a military strike or something like that.
		Anyway, that's just my thoughts.
		I don't know.
		Maybe I'm crazy.
		That's just me.
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sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'd love for people to look at my national bestseller, Five Stars on Amazon, Follow the Science.
		All the proceeds from these things that I do go to independent reporting causes.
		I give ION awards for independent off-narrative reporting to professionals and at two colleges because in my industry, and I judge the Emmys every year, A lot of times what wins is not the original good kind of reporting that I think we need to be encouraging.
		So if you want to support that kind of stuff and look up my show, Full Measure After Hours.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		What is it that Follow the Science is about?
sharyl attkisson ▲ ● ▼		It's about how, sort of explaining behind the scenes with anecdotes and documentation and citations, how we have had this explosion of chronic health disorders for 20 years that we all recognize that our doctors pretend not to notice.
		Or don't notice, either one's equally as bad, but for the opportunity that they have to try to treat it with expensive treatments.
		But there's a big story behind it.
ian crossland ▲ ● ▼		Follow the science.
		All right, well, check it out on Amazon or wherever, anywhere books are sold.
		I'm Ian Crossland, and follow me on the internet at Ian Crossland.
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