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March 21, 2025 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Trump Just REVOKED Legal Status Of 530,000 Migrants, Deportations NOW w/ Alex Stein | Timcast IRL
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alex stein
33:43
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brett dasovic
10:48
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phil labonte
05:58
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sara gonzales
11:05
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tim pool
Donald Trump's my favorite president.
He's very considerate.
He knows that Fridays are kind of hard news days because everybody's just checked out for the weekend.
So being such a good guy that he is, at 7.19 p.m., literally just within the hour before we're like...
Right around the time we started doing pre-production for the show, the news broke that he's revoked the legal status of half a million different migrants, Cubans, Haitians, Nicaraguans, and Venezuelans.
And I know he did it because he was thinking about us.
unidentified
He said, Tim, we're going to make sure you've got a breaking news story for your show.
tim pool
And thank you, Mr. President.
I'm kidding, by the way, but he really did this.
And the news just broke right now.
All of these individuals who were told by the Biden administration, come on down, fly in if you've got a sponsor, find themselves facing their status being revoked.
Now, reportedly, this is not individuals who came here illegally and then got temporary status.
These are people who a program was created where if you had a sponsor, you could come because Biden basically said surge the border.
So they flew here with temporary status and now Trump be taking it away.
He's also gutted the entire civil rights department at the DHS and he's shutting down another immigration department.
He's just basically shutting everything down at lightning speed and we're here for it.
So we'll talk about that.
Plus, Trump says that those that are caught committing acts of domestic terror against Tesla, he's going to send you to El Salvador.
Okay, so I've got to be honest.
If you're an American citizen, you go to jail.
I don't want Trump to send them to El Salvador.
But again, welcome to a wartime presidency, my friend.
So we're going to talk about this.
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And I believe this should be the 20th Amendment because chickens are based.
And Alex was just telling me how if everybody in the country owned three chickens, they would consume our biodegradable waste and we would have a clean environment.
alex stein
That's true.
That's what they said.
tim pool
Your grass would grow greener.
Because the chickens fertilize it.
alex stein
But this is why they won't let us do it, because the egg industry would go bye-bye, and the egg industrial complex...
tim pool
Big egg, I knew it!
alex stein
That's what I'm saying.
You don't mess with the egg industrial complex, dog.
You just can't win.
tim pool
Oh, man.
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Alex is here.
alex stein
Let's go.
We're going to get weird.
It's Friday.
You know, there's a lot to talk about.
I don't know why we're not talking about Pearl and Matt Walsh fighting, but I guess there's more important stuff.
tim pool
They're fighting?
alex stein
Are you kidding me?
She went after Alyssa Walsh, and then Matt quote-tweeted her.
And so, yeah, I mean, my whole world revolves around Pearl and Matt.
tim pool
That breaks my heart.
alex stein
I know.
tim pool
Pearl and Matt fighting.
alex stein
I know!
tim pool
I can't believe it!
unidentified
I'd not be able to sleep!
alex stein
I cannot sleep!
I was coming here.
I was like, oh my gosh, I'm going on Tim's show, but I can't.
I'm just worried about what Matt is thinking, about Pearl attacking him.
So, yeah, I think that's what we should talk about, but I know you want to talk about something more serious.
tim pool
Sarah's here as well.
unidentified
Yep, yep.
tim pool
Who are you?
What do you do?
sara gonzales
Sarah Gonzalez.
I am a colleague of Alex's, who remarkably is still with Blaze.
So, who knows when his final day will be, but it's not yet.
alex stein
Never. I love the Blaze.
Please keep me employed there.
I'm very thankful for my employment there.
And I love that company, and she is my co-worker.
And it's an honor to be here, Tim.
tim pool
Brett's hanging out.
sara gonzales
Guys. I think...
Go ahead.
brett dasovic
Oh, yes, guys.
Normally, we are live 3 to 5 p.m. on PCC.
My name is Brett.
I, too, would rather talk about conservative e-drama, but apparently there is news to get into tonight.
phil labonte
It's Friday.
You never know.
I'm Phil Labonte, the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains.
I'm an anti-communist.
Let's talk about drama.
tim pool
We'll get into the drama.
But we'll start with this from Reuters.
Trump revokes legal status for 530,000 Cubans, Haitians, Nicaraguans, and Venezuelans.
phil labonte
This is technically political drama.
unidentified
Yes, it is.
sara gonzales
It's very dramatic.
tim pool
It's actually crazy.
This move, effective April 24th, will cut the two-year parole granted to migrants under former President Joe Biden that allowed them to enter the country by air if they had U.S. sponsors.
A Republican?
Can I just...
unidentified
What? Why did Reuters...
sara gonzales
He's a what?
tim pool
Why did they put that in there?
Dude, they always do stuff like that.
brett dasovic
You know why.
You know exactly why they did it.
tim pool
Who in the...
Do they think there's some 16-year-old who has no idea what a Republican is who's reading this?
alex stein
Probably. I guess.
tim pool
Anyway, it says he's ramping up immigration enforcement of taking office, pushing to deport, blah, blah, blah.
Okay, we get it.
Donald Trump is basically going to deport everybody.
alex stein
Yeah. But Tim, he's not doing this for us.
You know who he's doing this for?
He's doing this for all those stray dogs and cats that are not going to get eaten anymore.
So now all those dogs and cats are safe.
And I'm sorry, you know, I don't think Haitians actually eat animals like that, but I would not take my cat or dog to a Haitian veterinarian because they might.
So, you know, I honestly do feel better for...
tim pool
That's bigoted.
alex stein
No, it's not.
tim pool
That's mean.
alex stein
You would take your cat to a Haitian veterinarian?
tim pool
I'd talk to him first, but sure.
alex stein
Oh, they went to vet school in Haiti?
No, thank you.
brett dasovic
Let me see your accreditation.
alex stein
Yeah, I mean, it's going to be written in crayon if it's from Haiti.
tim pool
I mean, I'm just imagining there's like some Asian blood.
Bro, listen, listen, listen to me.
It's 1973.
A young child in Haiti just dreams of being a vet.
He saves up a bunch of money.
Legally comes to the United States.
He's been here for 20 years, and he's got this amazing practice just outside of D.C., and he loves animals, and he's watching the show right now, and a single tear is coming from his eye as you say those words about him.
alex stein
Well, because Haitians do voodoo, and they lose cats, so I'm sorry.
I love Haitians.
You know, they're great athletes.
tim pool
What about the Cubans, though?
He's revoking also Cubans.
alex stein
Good. I mean, let them go, too.
Except for the big-booty Latinas.
They get to stay.
That's one thing, Tim.
You know, I see you on this every night.
Oh, let's kick the immigrants out.
unidentified
Let's kick the...
alex stein
And I see Phil, too.
Phil's a blame, too.
Oh, let's get rid of the illegal immigrants.
What has a big-booty Latina ever done to somebody?
Literally, go find...
phil labonte
Came here illegally.
unidentified
So what?
alex stein
To have a better life, and I'm going to give it to her, or somebody else is going to give it to her.
And what better punishment to an illegal immigrant than taking their beautiful, most luscious...
phil labonte
Alex. Alex.
tim pool
These big...
unidentified
He's saying it!
Big booty Latinas.
tim pool
Okay, Alex, please.
alex stein
It's not a crime to say big booty Latina.
tim pool
They are taking away Instagram jobs from American big booty Americans.
alex stein
No, no they're not.
phil labonte
Look, there are American Latinas.
sara gonzales
Big booty American Latinas.
phil labonte
Yes, absolutely.
alex stein
Thank you.
sara gonzales
Ask me how I know.
alex stein
Listen, they're more authentic.
tim pool
How do you know?
sara gonzales
Because I am one.
phil labonte
There you go.
alex stein
Who knows?
But I'm just saying, I don't like this all or nothing immigration plan.
I feel like...
Listen, if they've been here and they're my housekeeper, Tim, you want to deport my housekeeper?
phil labonte
Send them back.
Send them back.
alex stein
There's no way I could make my housekeeper work for $5 an hour if she wasn't an illegal immigrant.
So why would I want to kick them out?
It's a woman.
I'm not worried about it.
She's not part of the Trinidad.
phil labonte
You need one person to do that, to do your housekeeping.
alex stein
No, I have to have two.
I have a bunch of cats.
No, I need a bunch of illegal immigrants.
sara gonzales
That actually is probably true.
brett dasovic
Wait, so you won't take them to a Haitian vet, but...
As long as they're your housekeeper, it's okay.
alex stein
If they're Hispanic, yes, because they're skilled in art.
brett dasovic
Not the Haitians, okay.
alex stein
It's like an art form to them.
They can make bad things smell great.
Like Fabuloso?
Have you ever used Fabuloso?
phil labonte
Send them back.
sara gonzales
Even toxic as hell.
phil labonte
They gotta go.
alex stein
That's what's so good about it.
brett dasovic
It's purple.
It doesn't look of this world.
It looks alien.
phil labonte
I'm generally pleased.
brett dasovic
Not illegal alien.
Regular alien.
phil labonte
I'm generally pleased with the Trump administration, but I am actually disappointed with the speed and intensity of the deportation.
They need to ramp it up because there are 15 million illegal aliens.
tim pool
These are not illegal.
alex stein
Pardon me?
sara gonzales
They will be.
tim pool
They will be.
These are individuals who were told that...
So Biden launched a sponsorship program to give two-year legal status to anybody who came with a U.S. sponsor.
So they're technically legal.
Trump is going to take away that legal status and then they will be illegal.
phil labonte
See ya!
brett dasovic
Wasn't there a huge, supposedly bipartisan immigration bill during the Biden administration that was supposedly having them saying that he was really, really tough on immigration, despite the fact that we know that most things that are bipartisan suck?
phil labonte
Yeah, they were lying, too.
brett dasovic
Well, of course they were lying.
phil labonte
Yeah, it was going to fund all kinds of things that the Republicans were never going to get on board with.
It was all just a talking point so they could say, look, we had this bill and the Republicans said no, so it's all the Republicans' fault and blah, blah, blah, blah.
No, but again, they need to ramp up the deportations.
They need to get rid of the people that are here illegally.
That was the promise made by the Trump administration.
tim pool
These people aren't illegal.
phil labonte
I understand that.
tim pool
So the issue then is one administration says we're going to create a legal pathway.
It's easy.
And these people all come.
The next administration says we want deportations.
So you would agree that we should take away the legal status of those who did come legally?
phil labonte
So I don't...
If they've come legally, I wouldn't have a problem with them keeping their legal status.
But I'm also not going to get out and protest if he does take away the...
tim pool
The challenge right now is Joe Biden made it substantially easier.
So they just basically just...
They could just fly here so long as someone here, a U.S. citizen sponsors them, or permanent resident.
That was a ridiculously easy way to come.
And now Trump is saying, no, we reject that.
phil labonte
Yeah, I don't have a problem with Trump saying we reject that.
I don't have any problem.
alex stein
So he's revoking their asylum, basically.
tim pool
It's not asylum.
According to the report...
You have a sponsor.
brett dasovic
One of the biggest issues is people outstay their visa and then you see a lot of cases where it's like they've been here for 10 years and they haven't fulfilled the requirements to get legal status or apply for citizenship in full.
alex stein
Wait, this doesn't make sense, Sarah.
If you watch the show 90 Day Fiance, I thought you could just marry an American, Sarah, and get green card status.
Am I wrong?
You are wrong.
sara gonzales
It's a much longer process.
alex stein
Riley Gaines had issues.
Candace Owens had issues.
tim pool
Riley Gaines?
What is she from?
alex stein
She married a British guy, too.
brett dasovic
Didn't Candace Owens' husband just become a legal citizen today?
sara gonzales
He did.
I saw that.
I saw that.
Yeah, I mean, the problem is when it's as easy as Joe Biden just being in office and making it so, declaring it policy to allow all of these people in, then it has to be as easy as Donald Trump coming in and saying, you know what, I'm going to undo the absurd thing that Joe Biden just...
It did, and by the way, did it on our dime.
tim pool
Do you guys think we should get rid of birthright citizenship?
brett dasovic
Yes. Yes.
alex stein
I don't know.
I mean, if you're born here, right?
I mean, I know that they have all these Chinese guys come here and, like, send their wife here when they're, like, nine months pregnant so they can have that.
sara gonzales
It's a whole industry.
alex stein
I know.
It's a whole scam.
I know.
And, of course, so I don't like that.
But, I mean, I don't know.
That is written to the Constitution if you respect that, right?
unidentified
No, it isn't.
sara gonzales
No, it's not.
phil labonte
It depends.
alex stein
What is birthright citizen?
Is it not an amendment of the Constitution?
tim pool
So it's an amendment to the Constitution in the way that liberals will argue whatever they want whenever they want.
alex stein
Well, I thought it was, I thought if you're born, I thought the rule was if you're born here, that you are wrong.
tim pool
Wrong. The purpose of the 14th Amendment, if you actually go and, you are, if you actually go, go ahead, go ahead.
If you go and read what they were talking about after the Civil War, the 14th Amendment says a bunch of things.
But one of the things is if all people born here are naturalized citizens.
It meant in the past.
It didn't mean forever.
The point was they were saying in the 14th Amendment.
There's 13th and 14th.
No more slavery unless you're convicted of a crime.
Fourth of the Amendment.
Everybody who's here and was born here, you're citizens, okay?
We're done with this.
And then, like, 20 years later, some guy was like, so this means if you're born here now, you're a citizen?
And they were like, sure.
And that's the way it's been.
Even though the senator who made it said, obviously, this does not mean the children of foreign nationals, diplomats or otherwise.
It meant the slaves who were born here are citizens of this country.
And it excluded Native Americans, too, because they're citizens of their tribal nation.
But now, some...
It was like in the late 18...
It was like 1896 or something.
They were like, eh, I think this means that anybody born here ever is a citizen.
And they were like, whatever.
sara gonzales
Because as with most things, the left takes a piece of something and bastardizes the meaning of it and the context and tries to use it to their advantage.
phil labonte
That's a really important point.
The whole point of the birthright citizenship had nothing to do with making sure that pregnant women that could get across the border and have the baby had a way to remain in the United States.
tim pool
That's not the point.
Let's just address the function.
Of what these laws is based on liberal interpretation.
A woman from China who is seven or eight months pregnant gets a three-month tourist visa to the United States and flies here.
She gives birth to the child who was born in the United States and is an American citizen, so they claim.
They then fly back to mainland China where this kid is raised in the Communist Chinese Party as a devout worshiper of the Communist...
And he wiggles his little red book in the air as he runs around playing Communist Manifesto.
At the age of 25, he moves back to the United States, where he is a U.S. citizen, and he spends the next 15 years working in various industries, and then he runs for president.
And now, I don't even think it needs to be 15 years.
He runs for president, and everyone's...
Who, in their right mind, which founding father would tell you that was the function of government?
They'd be like, no, that's clearly a foreign national.
Just because he was here for one day to make him a citizen, now he can be president?
And then as soon as he wins, he goes, I'm allegiant to the Communist Party of China.
unidentified
Thank you.
tim pool
Your country is now subservient.
alex stein
Bye. I don't know.
I always like the story of when a woman has an early pregnancy on a plane and they're like,"Oh, the baby's French too." And it's just like a cool thing that you have two citizenships.
But I don't like if it's like some politician has an allegiance to China or Israel or Saudi Arabia or whatever.
I don't like that.
But if you're born here, even if your parents did something illegal, it's like abortion.
It's not the kid's choice to be born.
sara gonzales
But it's not even illegal.
It's a foreign national who's coming here for the purpose of having a baby so that that baby can have citizenship.
It's a complete abuse of the system.
alex stein
Well, listen, there's loopholes to everything.
They figured out a loophole?
I don't know.
tim pool
Well, you've heard the old Greek proverb, right?
A nation grows great when old men plant trees whose shade they know they will never sit beneath and then let foreign people come in and rip from that tree, chop it down and build cheap furniture with it.
alex stein
Ikea furniture.
brett dasovic
I think I saw that on Pinterest.
sara gonzales
That's quite the one I heard.
tim pool
Let's jump to this story from the New York Times.
Trump shuts down three watchdog agencies overseeing immigration crackdown.
I love this headline.
The move comes as the Trump administration ramps up its deportation campaign.
In some cases, removing people with little to no due process.
Notice the little to no?
sara gonzales
I love it.
tim pool
It's because they did get due process.
And they just don't like it personally.
I just want to stress, little to no is an opinion statement in New York Times.
Thanks for making an op-ed.
These people are incorrigible.
They're going to say that the cuts affect the civil rights branch of the DHS and two ombudsman offices, one overseeing immigration detention and another responsible for scrutinizing the administration's legal immigration policies.
According to five current and former government officials, more than 100 people at the civil rights office alone are losing their jobs.
Is anyone here sad about this?
sara gonzales
No. Maybe, maybe, Phil, maybe that will help with the deportations.
phil labonte
I mean, look.
sara gonzales
I mean, look, I think they're trying.
Right? Because to your point, I agree with you, there have not been enough deportations.
And when you look at, you know, the daily average, when you calculate that out, it's not hardly making a dent in it.
However, if you look at the amount of people who are now trying to come here, have you seen the chart?
phil labonte
Almost not.
unidentified
It's ridiculous.
sara gonzales
It just, like, goes, crashes all the way down to almost nothing.
It's like 90%, I think, that they're down at the border.
Yeah. So that part, at least.
Hey. We've covered.
That's great.
It turns out all you have to do is tell people, don't freaking come.
Right? Don't come.
We don't want you here.
You're not going to have a gravy train when you get here.
You're not going to get free shit.
Please don't come.
We will arrest you and send you back.
tim pool
Do not come.
sara gonzales
Just that.
brett dasovic
Mala said that once.
It didn't seem to do anything.
alex stein
Yeah. Well, that's what she said.
sara gonzales
Because they were letting him in.
alex stein
Well, I mean, you just turned up.
tim pool
Question, question, guys.
This is the civil rights office, right?
These are the people that are supposed to make sure that if we are detaining and deporting migrants, they're not being beaten and loaded on trains and smashed and crammed in solitary.
Isn't this a bad thing?
I mean, we want to deport them, but we can at least have people to make sure that...
People aren't being mistreated.
alex stein
Well, I don't know, because you saw those Venezuelan Trinde Arruga almost took over that plane, Con Air style.
Did you hear about that?
What? Yeah, you didn't hear?
Oh my gosh, they had 200 Trinde Arruga gang members on the plane.
I love how you say that.
In the middle.
tim pool
And they Con Air'd it?
alex stein
They almost Con Air'd it.
You didn't, Tim, read the news!
Like, I come out here and Tim doesn't even know what the news is.
sara gonzales
Are you sure that that was true, though?
alex stein
That's 100% true, because I clarified it.
brett dasovic
Where was Nicolas Cage?
alex stein
We need to be there.
But no, but Google it.
Trinde Arruga almost takes over a plane.
Matt Gaetz, I believe, said it on O. They need to.
And we know.
tim pool
There's no stories here.
phil labonte
Open the cargo bay doors.
alex stein
You know, the major media is hiding it.
But I'm telling you, they almost con-air to jet.
brett dasovic
Look up con-air to jet.
sara gonzales
How many civil rights do illegal...
Aliens get.
alex stein
If they came here in a pickup truck, in the back of a pickup truck, we send them out in the back of a pickup truck.
brett dasovic
Also, is 100 lawyers in the Civil Rights Department the entirety of that department, or are there some still left on staff?
sara gonzales
Sure, right.
brett dasovic
That's a fair question.
tim pool
There's a Scottish groundskeeper who's complaining, and there...
I'm kidding.
sara gonzales
I mean...
It's so interesting because these probably are the same people who yelled at President Trump the first time he was in office about keeping kids in cages and all of these things.
phil labonte
Of course they are, yeah.
sara gonzales
But when you look at what he was actually doing, of course, he's preventing trafficking from happening.
So I just don't know that I trust their judgment on this.
phil labonte
We are beyond the point of caring what the left says.
We have stopped caring.
tim pool
I've figured it out.
Yeah. Okay?
Trump needs to send all the Trendy Aragua to Ukraine's front line.
Perfect! And no liberal or Democrat is going to say one word.
alex stein
See, that is a solution to a problem.
We send their gangbangers to go fight on the front lines.
Like, everybody wins.
But see, the cartel wouldn't be stupid enough to do it.
tim pool
The Democrats are like, we're kind of mad about this, but we'll take it.
alex stein
Yeah. I think that's actually a solution to the – I mean, they're willing to fight.
They're willing to die for their own country.
And they would probably do it, like, for the money.
unidentified
No, no, no.
tim pool
The point is the Trendy Aragua.
Trendy Arago guys are just dropping the front line, and it's like, good luck.
alex stein
We'd have to give them a gun or something, right, to make it fair?
You've got to give them some weapons to go after Russia with.
sara gonzales
Are you going to trust them?
phil labonte
I don't want them to get in front.
alex stein
We gave Al-Qaeda—I mean, we created the Mujahideen.
We gave Osama bin Laden weapons, so I don't know why we wouldn't arm the cartel fighting in Ukraine.
tim pool
We should take every single person in the Venezuelan—I'm sorry, in the Salvadoran prisons, send them to Ukraine.
brett dasovic
But what we'll end up finding out is 20 years from now, the CIA will actually do this, and we'll just find out when files are declassified.
tim pool
Or actually, right now, there's CIA and NSA guys.
Watching the show eating popcorn and they'll be like,"That's a great idea!" They're actually like,"We've been doing that." Where do you think these people come from?
brett dasovic
The movie will be out in five years.
sara gonzales
Are you kidding me?
I do have a question.
tim pool
Slava Aragua.
brett dasovic
I can't.
Ben Affleck will direct it.
sara gonzales
Absolutely. This business idea I have that I want to create a human catapult on the border and I want to see how much Americans would pay to press the button to just catapult someone across to the other side.
brett dasovic
Do they get a bouncy house on the other side to land up?
sara gonzales
Yeah, you can have a soft landing.
alex stein
One of those balls things that...
tim pool
I got a question.
Okay, we're talking about birthright citizenship.
Yes. My question is, there is a story right now about a 10-year-old girl who got brain cancer, but she's a U.S. citizen, but her parents are illegal.
They came here, had five kids.
Those kids are citizens.
Now the daughter, who's 10, is getting consistent treatment for brain swelling or for the brain surgery, but they've been deported, and the left is saying, oh, it's so evil, this American citizen was deported.
Tom Homan said in the past, they can be deported with their parents.
Oh, we can keep them.
Like, you want them to stay here as wards of the state?
I'm paraphrasing, but he basically said, we'll send him back with your parents.
So the parents came here illegally.
The kids can go back with them.
The kids can go back when they're old enough or whatever.
Do you think, as Trump is revoking the status of legal migrants, do you think, because I think this has been actually floated, kids who come and are, like this 10-year-old girl, would have her U.S. citizenship revoked because...
They will challenge.
Their parents were not citizens.
They came here to exploit the system.
So they'll remove citizenship.
Do you think they should do that?
alex stein
I don't.
sara gonzales
Yes, I do.
brett dasovic
I don't know if you should revoke it for the ones who came here when it was law, but implement it so that anything following would go under new policy.
Right. So if you come here now and the same thing happens, then they are not a U.S. citizen.
But if they were already here and that was the law at the time, it's like when they talk about marijuana offenses.
When they talk about weed offenses, they're like, all of these people are in jail.
The policies have changed.
It's like, yes, that is true.
But the policy wasn't changed at the time.
alex stein
I think we should let out those people, though.
brett dasovic
I'm just saying that's an argument that a lot of people make.
They say, look, yes, it's stupid that we put him in jail for all that.
And I do agree with that.
But to a lot of people who are more strict or rigid about how you interpret the law, they say it was the law when they did it.
It implements further crime and problems.
So you have to act on the law as it was at the time, not how it's changed sensibly.
phil labonte
I don't have a problem with them staying as a ward of the state.
The children?
Citizens. They were born here.
They're citizens.
The kids get in treatment.
I have no problem with them staying as a ward of the state.
Send the parents back.
And then when the kid's 18 or whatever, like, you know, then the kid can go and do what they want.
sara gonzales
Are you saying that the child doesn't have that option?
Or the parents are just taking the child back?
unidentified
No, no.
tim pool
They deported the whole family.
sara gonzales
Okay. The American citizen child did not have the option to stay as a ward of the state.
tim pool
I don't know if the child had an option, but it was deported with the parents.
Okay. So we have this map of all the places in the world that have, this is from the Library of Congress, countries with unconditional birthright citizenship.
Jeez. And you can see the New World, we call it, which is the Americas, almost entirely birthright citizenship.
But look at Europe.
Europe is age and residency of the child with parental status.
Combination of parental status and age and residency of the child.
Like Europe, you don't get...
Citizenship is by being born there.
And in the Eastern world, China, Japan, Korea, no, you do not get birthright.
You know citizenship with birth.
brett dasovic
It's like when people talk about abortion in the U.S. and not realizing just how strict abortion laws are all over the world.
sara gonzales
Oh, right.
tim pool
So I ask about this because I do believe Trump is going to make that move.
brett dasovic
You think he's going to get rid of it entirely?
tim pool
He's already signed an executive order ending it, didn't he?
sara gonzales
Yeah. Obviously, it'll get challenged.
tim pool
And that's what he wants.
He wants to go to the Supreme Court so they can issue an answer on this.
I think that there is a strong probability that Trump challenges existing citizenship of kids, of illegal immigrant parents.
He's already actually made the argument that even if the parents are legally here, you shouldn't get it.
Because with no birthright citizenship, he's basically already challenged the children of legal residents.
brett dasovic
What do you think?
Do you think that's the right move?
tim pool
I don't know, man.
brett dasovic
That's a very hard question to put in people because it puts a moral conundrum right at the front of the question.
alex stein
And I don't know how to do my laundry at all.
I mean, I'm not even kidding.
I don't know how to clean.
brett dasovic
I think it's a technical issue for me.
alex stein
Yeah, for me.
tim pool
So, the issue is it's not yes or no.
It is...
If there's a 30-year-old guy whose parents are illegal and he's from...
Idaho or whatever.
And he's like, yeah, my parents came here illegally.
I was born in Idaho.
I've lived here my whole life.
Okay, we're not going to deport that person.
That makes no sense.
But if there's a kid who's like at a certain age, like three, we might be like, we're going to annul the claim of birthright citizenship.
We're going to avoid that.
And we're going to deport your family.
The question is, do we reward people for committing crimes against us?
And so there's a statute of limitations, I suppose.
Like I said, a 30-year-old guy whose parents are elderly, sure, I guess, deport them.
But if you've got a family that comes here, I would say this.
Simply, if people come here and they have a kid, and it's been like a month or two, they're all deported, there's no citizenship.
If the kid is a certain age, after a certain age, maybe the cutoff is 18. Maybe if it's like, as of right now, anyone who is 18 or older...
Is past that point, but anyone younger, you're getting your...
Maybe 18 is too late, actually.
The issue is, can you legally survive on your own if your parents are not here?
Otherwise, we got nothing for you.
And the idea that we're going to deport a 10-year-old U.S. citizen because the parents are illegal and exploited our laws and broke the law to come here and take advantage of us, that kid's just going to come back and then file sponsorship for the parents and then we'll have changed migration.
sara gonzales
Yeah, I just think that it's important to set the precedent for people to do things the right way.
So, I mean, I would be in favor of the parents making the decision if you would like for your child to remain here.
And this is the moral quandary that...
brett dasovic
lot of Americans find themselves in when you get posed this question, right?
It's like we are the question is put upon us as American citizens.
How do you feel about this?
And then your morality is called into question when you want to implement some type of strict policy.
When you understand that strict policy isn't really supposed to be about emotion.
It's supposed
I feel bad for these people.
sara gonzales
I'm sure there are some really difficult situations, but who do you blame?
The people who brought these kids here in the first place?
Well, this is one thing, though.
alex stein
On a serious note, you know when your parents die and they might have debt, they're going to call you and they're going to be like, you know, your parents owe debt.
And they're going to try to con you and say you're responsible for your parents' debt, but you're not.
You're not.
It doesn't even matter whether you have a good relationship with your parents or a bad relationship with your parents.
So I do think that there is a difference between a parent and a son.
And a parent doesn't, like, the parent does choose.
tim pool
Where are you from, Alex?
alex stein
Dallas, Texas.
Born and raised.
Yeah, I got a birth certificate.
tim pool
Where? On you?
alex stein
I got an email.
tim pool
Maybe I gotta make a phone call to ICE right now.
alex stein
I'm not getting deported.
I'm a pimp on a blimp.
I'm just saying, you know, this is not as cut and dry as we like to make it.
brett dasovic
Well, I think the point is we're not making it cut and dry, and the fact that it isn't is why this ends up being an issue.
tim pool
I'm done.
Deport everybody.
unidentified
Nobody. Italians first.
tim pool
No Americans.
None. It's just going to be gophers or whatever.
Chickens. Yeah, chickens.
alex stein
If you're a nine, you're fine.
tim pool
Nobody can have America now.
Nobody gets it.
alex stein
You would deport Salma Hayek?
tim pool
Everybody's got to go back to the country of their ancestral origin.
alex stein
J-Lo?
Even J-Lo?
brett dasovic
Calabasas, California.
sara gonzales
If we think, if we contend that this is the greatest country in the entire world, we have to protect that.
Right? Like, we can't just...
tim pool
We do.
And let's jump to this next story.
Speaking of protecting this country, Trump warns Tesla terrorists they face up to 20 years in prison that could be served in El Salvador.
Hilarious. Perhaps they could serve them in prisons in El Salvador, which have become so recently famous for such lovely conditions.
unidentified
Okay, all right.
tim pool
Hold on.
It is funny, but whoa, whoa, whoa.
Pump the brakes there.
I do not want to see American citizens, no matter what crime they're committing, sent to an El Salvador prison with bad conditions.
alex stein
I don't know.
tim pool
Everybody agree?
alex stein
No, I disagree.
Because, listen, our private prison industry in America is very exploitative of criminals.
And you can even see two of the people that Biden pardoned were actually judges that took kickbacks to send kids to these youth jails.
So our private prison industry in America is absolutely horrendous.
So if that means sending these criminals to El Salvador instead of pumping up our private prison industry, I'm all for it.
And I'm not even saying that sarcastically because our private prison industry is...
sara gonzales
Is there a law that says that we have to keep people imprisoned here in this country?
alex stein
It may be cruel and unusual.
tim pool
Yeah, I'd argue the Eighth Amendment.
phil labonte
And I think that probably cause crisis unusual.
tim pool
Sure. Unusual.
phil labonte
It's probably unusual.
tim pool
Not if he sends everyone there.
phil labonte
Everybody that goes to jail in the U.S., now you're going to El Salvador.
Then it's not unusual.
brett dasovic
Cruel and normal punishment, then.
tim pool
That's right.
brett dasovic
Cruel and normal.
alex stein
But, Tim, you know the future of punishment, right?
It's going to be through artificial intelligence.
Yeah, where they're going to put a neural link, and you're going to feel...
tim pool
There's a movie.
alex stein
Yeah, they'll be seeing it.
Well, I don't know if I've seen the movie.
tim pool
They put an eyedrop with nanobots in your eye, and then your brain experiences how many years.
alex stein
A hundred years, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, and so...
alex stein
And it only takes seven minutes.
tim pool
And then, like, the woman who...
A guy and a woman invented it, and the woman wants to use it for, like, going on ski trips.
And so you crack up with...
alex stein
During sex?
tim pool
No, no, no.
Okay. In the movie, the woman cracks it up and puts it in her eye, and then she's skiing on this mountain.
And then she wakes up like, whoa, I was just on vacation in Aspen.
The guy goes behind her back and sells it to prison companies so they can put prison terms in your eye and in 10 seconds you live 10 years in prison.
And then he tries to kill her because she tries to stop him and then she like squirts the whole thing in his face and then he experiences like a million years in prison and he goes insane.
brett dasovic
I don't know if anybody here has taken a bunch of benzos and had a bad trip, but time dilation is something I would want nothing to do with.
Nothing at all.
tim pool
What if you're in it now?
Alex, what if you're in jail right now?
alex stein
Yeah, I might be.
No, I'm not in jail because I'm in a great place.
I'm in West Virginia.
phil labonte
We're in jail.
alex stein
You guys are the prisoners.
I'm the warden right now.
brett dasovic
You get your eye drops and sentenced to 10 years of Alex talking about all of this.
phil labonte
Just 10 years of him telling you why Big Booty Latina should remain in the United States.
tim pool
It's the exact same thing as your normal life, but Alex is standing next to you all the time.
alex stein
Always. Heckling you.
brett dasovic
Tapping you on the shoulder.
phil labonte
You go to the bathroom and Alex is there.
alex stein
Just always bugging them.
No, but that is the future of crime and punishment, I think, is going to be like AI.
So I'm ready for it.
tim pool
I agree.
Like Neuralink, when they go read-write.
So right now Neuralink can...
alex stein
Make it if you have an artificial...
tim pool
It can write a little bit.
This means that...
Oh, no, I'm sorry.
It can't write.
It can only read.
So this allows...
Actually, no, no.
It can write a little bit.
What that means is they have a lot of brain scan technology with Neuralink.
So they can take data from your brain, and that allows your brain to control computer mouses.
The right capability is when they're getting towards fixing severed nerves, where they can put the two little computers at the base of the spine where the brake is and then connect it, and signals can jump, and then people can relearn how to walk.
They're not quite there yet.
But once they get to the point where they can write thoughts to your brain...
So right now we know how to download data from the brain.
Once we get to the point where we can input it, it's over.
alex stein
What can we download from our brain, Tim?
Like, I mean, what comes back on the machine when we download somebody's brain?
tim pool
So there's quite a bit.
So they've been able to do rudimentary images.
Really? Yeah, they've wired people into these devices and had them watch movies.
And then in one room, they see an image on a screen.
And it's like, they time both.
And you can see when a person's face is on the screen, when you look at the screen, you see the silhouette of a man with light features.
Wow. But once with AI, once we get enough of this data, we will perfectly decode what people are seeing or thinking about in their brains.
That's going to be freaky.
And then once everyone's got the Neuralink implanted, first, don't worry.
This one's good news for the conservatives.
Every single liberal is going to wire themselves in to go live in fantasy furry land or whatever.
alex stein
Yeah. But every conservative would too.
They'd make themselves...
unidentified
No, they wouldn't.
alex stein
No. A lot would because you'd be the quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys or like, you know, you get to be Tim Pool.
tim pool
No, I'll tell you this.
brett dasovic
They go back to the Reagan era to hang out.
tim pool
Nope. No, they wouldn't.
So most conservatives who use it, if they would, and it's a very small amount, would use it periodically as like a recreation thing, but maybe only a little bit.
Most of them...
Because of their faith would stay away from it.
brett dasovic
I bet you it becomes addictive as hell and a lot of them fall into a trap.
alex stein
The jerk master 9000 is going to have its hold on people.
phil labonte
More so than that, I think that it's going to be something that once your body starts breaking down, when it hurts to move all the time, when you can't walk, then people are going to opt into that.
They'll be like, well, my brain is still good.
I can still think.
tim pool
Every liberal is going to do it instantly.
alex stein
Would you do that?
Would you upload your brain if you could live forever?
phil labonte
I don't believe you can upload your brain.
alex stein
But would you if they have that technology in the next 20 years?
No. Just like, what's that show?
Not Family Guy, but Futurama.
Like in Futurama, all the celebrities are still alive in their heads.
brett dasovic
There was a show called Dollhouse from Joss Whedon where you could upload the consciousness of an entire human being into a blank slate human being so that you could have your entire consciousness uploaded to a drive and then the super rich would then have their entire personality uploaded into just a person that was just literally sent there from prison to live out sentences by being a blank.
Slate for rich people.
tim pool
There's a meme where it's a guy smiling, looking up, and it says, me looking up from hell as a robot that I thought I downloaded my consciousness into pretends to be me and lives my life.
alex stein
That is pretty scary.
tim pool
Looking up from hell.
phil labonte
I don't imagine that there's the ability to upload your consciousness.
I don't care what anyone says.
I don't think that...
I think that your brain...
Is you.
alex stein
Your soul, you think?
phil labonte
I'm not sure that there's a soul.
I'm an agnostic.
But whatever is our consciousness is irrevocably connected to the actual brain.
tim pool
Okay, however, what if they discover the soul?
And then they figured out a way to rip it out of someone's body.
phil labonte
Listen, I'm agnostic, so I could be proven wrong.
I'm not saying that I know.
tim pool
Look, look, look.
Humans, 100 years ago, didn't, you know, 120 years ago, didn't realize there was an electromagnetic spectrum.
And then some dude was like, yo, take this out.
Like, zap, zap, zap.
And now we're like, look at all these things.
The light is a part of it.
What if they discover a way to actually see a human soul?
And then they start experimenting with manipulating the soul, which would be crazy because it's like human soul experiments.
I mean, that'd be...
Super illegal.
People would go nuts over that.
And then they start taking souls out of people's bodies and putting them in dogs.
alex stein
I do believe we have souls.
It sounds scary, but I do think we have souls.
I don't know.
I get how you can be agnostic.
I'm not even trying to debate you on that, but I do think there's something special about each human being.
I mean, whatever that is.
tim pool
Bro, I'm just saying, liberals, the moment...
So first of all, they already eat bugs and they love it.
You've got the...
Carmine color, the cockineal mites, and a cheddar protein, and they're all for it.
They're like, ooh, environment, yay, and they're cheering.
All they need now is the pods, and they will take it.
And I want to give it to them.
alex stein
You want them to plug into the machine?
tim pool
What do you think this country would look like if every liberal right now was offered?
Okay, listen.
You go to the worst liberal imaginable and you say, this device, you put the headset on, it goes in the back of your head, non-invasive, and it can broadcast to your mind.
You lay back in your chair and you are Valsadhar, the great knight of the kingdom of Robor.
And you're riding a dragon and you can throw fireballs.
They're going to be like, I'm in.
brett dasovic
I just watched that movie.
alex stein
Amazing. What is it?
Eternal sunshine of the spotless mind where you can delete a memory in your brain?
brett dasovic
Do you think that this is the type of thing...
Look, right now, the liberals, they hate Elon Musk, but Elon Musk loves transhumanism.
And if he's the one who ends up perfecting it, then they have to draw swastikas on all of the Neuralinks and they're not allowed to use it.
tim pool
They'll take it in two seconds.
brett dasovic
You think so?
They won't take the Tesla, but they'll take the transhumanism.
alex stein
A lot of them do have Teslas still, you know?
tim pool
But every single one of these people is like...
They're going to plug their brains in and they're going to just live in their fantasy worlds.
Conservatives will do it a little bit.
Some people on the right who claim to be conservative will dive right in and disappear.
Most conservatives will probably only do it a little, not much at all.
And then the truly devout, faithful, like Catholic or Christian won't go anywhere near it.
alex stein
Yeah, but do you think that would be better for society?
tim pool
What do you think it would look like?
alex stein
Well, I think, honestly, and once again, I didn't know I'd be debating with you all night, but I do think that we kind of need libtarded people, too, to make the world, like, a better place.
Like, we can't all...
We don't need to all agree on everything, right?
Wouldn't that be terrible if we all just had the same opinion?
tim pool
What do you think these people burning Teslas would be doing right now if they could go into the pond?
alex stein
Well, you know what?
Honestly, all those cars have insurance.
brett dasovic
Those are leftists.
Those are liberals, though.
alex stein
Once again, though...
unidentified
No, they're not.
brett dasovic
No? You consider them to be regular liberals.
tim pool
The guy who torched the Tesla Chargers is a nothing.
He wrote "Long live Ukraine." He doesn't know what he's protesting for.
He's just a lunatic.
brett dasovic
So it's the Borg.
alex stein
I don't know.
tim pool
It's just random.
Look, the average default liberal is like
I don't want to say the Borg.
brett dasovic
You're referencing Bill Burr being the new idea of a liberal with radical views, right?
tim pool
Bill Burr doesn't have radical views.
Bill Burr is a coward who's terrified of the left because he witnessed a man who has a comparable net worth to him being murdered and he thought to himself, that could be me next.
I better join their side.
alex stein
You know the biggest problem with Bill Burr is he's one of the most talented comedians in the world but his wife is disgustingly ugly and she's overweight.
Have you seen his wife?
No? She looks like a black Ford pickup truck, F-150, as a human being.
tim pool
Okay, the point is...
alex stein
And he's a millionaire.
Doesn't make sense.
tim pool
All right.
alex stein
Weird. I just...
tim pool
We were talking about Trump sending everybody to El Salvador.
What if Trump...
Okay, fine.
Well, right.
What if Trump just put him into crystals?
Just into the crystals for 10,000 years.
alex stein
What do you mean, into the crystals?
Because I actually like crystals, and I believe that they have spiritual aura that makes us feel better.
tim pool
Do not know what into the crystals means.
alex stein
Is that from Superman?
tim pool
No, it's someone similar.
Someone made a meme about Trump sending the liberals to...
The idea is you freeze them inside of a crystal for 10,000 years.
alex stein
Yeah, I don't like that idea either.
That seems rude.
I mean, I don't like liberals that much.
I don't need to freeze them.
brett dasovic
Plus, who's going to think of the private prisons?
tim pool
Yeah. Let me ask you.
If Neuralink goes full-service read-write, and you can attach it to your head, and then it can transport you to your own private universe, you're going to jail.
The judge says to you, you have the option to go into the Neuralink universe where you can live a life, a full life.
Or we could put you in a standard prison.
What do you think people would choose?
alex stein
The full life.
tim pool
And that's how they're going to convince people because in the Neuralink you get to live for a thousand years but on Earth you only live until you're 70. For all we know in base reality you live for 10 years and we are in the Neuralink universe right now and we live first.
brett dasovic
Wait, how long?
You're saying they would be sentenced to a certain amount of time in the Neuralink?
Yeah, seven years.
So their body atrophies, their muscles completely seize up, they're no longer functional when they come out.
alex stein
Well, theoretically, they could move your body around and have you intubated where your body could...
tim pool
Or every night.
brett dasovic
It's getting expensive.
tim pool
No, no, no.
Every night in the Neuralink, they turn it off, you wake up in the real world, you get up, move around, eat food, and then plug back in, and it erases your memory from what happened.
sara gonzales
Well, I don't think you should have the option.
At all, personally.
Like, you as the person who committed the crime, I don't think should have the option of...
Well, because you lose that option when you commit the crime.
You have either a judge or a jury decide that.
alex stein
Okay, here's a non-controversial topic.
tim pool
I think there should be an option.
alex stein
Hitler, do we put him in the Neuralink, and how long would his punishment need to be in the Neuralink for it to be fair?
tim pool
He doesn't go in the Neuralink.
He goes in one of those tubes that go underground.
Like, what was it?
Demolition Man?
alex stein
That's such a good movie, Taco Bell.
brett dasovic
It's nothing but Taco Bell forever.
phil labonte
Taco Bell's so good.
sara gonzales
Would you get a knurling?
Would you have one installed?
alex stein
Nah. If Tim could park his Tesla easier, Tim would do it.
Tim loves it.
sara gonzales
What I'm actually concerned about with that is because I would never do that.
I've got no tattoos.
tim pool
I've got no piercings.
sara gonzales
I would never do that.
But the people who do...
Are you concerned that they would be, like, they're going to be light years ahead of us normies who don't have, you know, a brain chip implanted and don't have access to all these things?
alex stein
Yeah, it would be like the vaccine and anti-vax.
sara gonzales
But it would be so much more than that because you're talking about jobs and, you know, careers where people would be ahead of the people who don't have one.
tim pool
I had an idea for a TV show, and I'll give you the really quick version.
It's the future.
Earth seems to be destroyed.
All the cities are in decay.
Most of the people are gone.
There's only one city left.
Most people in that city have no idea how the Earth collapsed.
When they find old newspapers or boot up old servers, it seems at some point the data just stopped.
The news started to stop slowly, and there's no news about any catastrophe.
The long story short of it is they eventually find out that the majority of the Earth population, Neuralinked Inn, And then started transmitting data among each other on a different network that they don't have access to because they're not neural linked.
And the reason why it looks like the historical record stops is because they're not using the internet anymore.
They're using the neural link.
So imagine if Benjamin Franklin was transported to today and said, someone get me a periodical so I can figure out what's going on in this country.
He probably didn't talk like that.
But people would be like, a periodical, just go on the internet.
He'd be like, the what?
alex stein
You are right.
If we didn't have the internet, we would have no history.
We'd have, like, no knowledge.
I mean, I guess there's a few books and encyclopedias, but...
tim pool
If humans migrate to a neural link information network, where in their minds they can pull up websites and information and it's no longer on the internet as we perceive it, to anybody who doesn't transfer into that system, it would look like history stops.
Yeah. Imagine all...
Like, look at encyclopedias.
Yeah. Do encyclopedias exist anymore?
Nope. So imagine if somebody was like...
Imagine a dude...
It's transported from the 40s.
And he's like, someone get me a collection of encyclopedias so I could learn the history of what happened.
They're like, they're gone.
They ended in 1989.
There's no more.
alex stein
Well, they still have them.
They're just not, you know.
Like, if you go to the newest library, there's an encyclopedia from 2025, obviously, right?
I mean...
tim pool
Is there?
sara gonzales
Do you know that?
alex stein
Yeah, come on.
They had to make an encyclopedia every year.
We didn't stop making it.
phil labonte
I don't think they make the physical copies.
alex stein
Britannica Encyclopedia Britannica?
phil labonte
I don't think.
sara gonzales
They're obsolete.
alex stein
They are obsolete, yes.
I agree with you on that.
I'm just saying they do exist.
But yeah, you still, even if you had the encyclopedia, you wouldn't be able to really get a grasp of what the hell is going on that well without the internet.
sara gonzales
I mean, it is a really scary idea to me.
Because I would legitimately never get...
Any sort of chip implanted in me.
alex stein
That's the next psychological operation.
sara gonzales
So am I going to get left behind?
brett dasovic
Well, yes.
It's like when people are saying, I'm not getting a smartphone.
I'm not moving on to the next form of technology.
sara gonzales
Well, sure, but it's a little different because you're talking about...
brett dasovic
Well, I'm just saying it's the same thing, right?
Where now, you're not allowed to not have a cell phone at most jobs.
tim pool
Right. As of 2010...
Britannica announced they would not produce new print editions of the encyclopedia.
alex stein
Wow, that's gnarly.
tim pool
I'm telling you.
So if somebody from the 80s was transported to today, they'd be like, I'm missing four years of history.
Get me some encyclopedias.
And they'd be like, they stopped making those 20 years ago.
They'd be like, what?
sara gonzales
How do they know what happened?
tim pool
So imagine this.
Now imagine this.
Imagine a catastrophe happens on the earth.
A solar flare.
You want to really...
You mind?
Solar flare is supposed to come.
We had Ben Davidson, the space weather guy on.
And he said something big is going to hit.
And it's going to fry all of our electronics.
Humans are going to die like crazy.
And then imagine 50 years later, some guy is some elder sitting around a bunch of kids and they're like, so what happened to civilization?
We don't know.
At some point in the late 2000s, all of our history just stopped.
And we don't know why.
So we assume in 2010, a disaster happened.
When in reality, no, we just switched to the internet, but a solar flare wipes all our servers and destroys all our machines, and all data and history that we've logged since then is gone.
alex stein
Well, I can argue that that's already happened with Tartaria and a lot of the library of Alexander, and so you don't even know what year it is really right now.
tim pool
What if Tartaria is real?
And what happened was the solar flare hit, fried all of the servers.
alex stein
It was a mud flood, but go ahead.
tim pool
No, no, I'm saying the mud flood was caused by the solar flare.
alex stein
The solar flare caused.
Polar ice caps to melt, and they became hot.
tim pool
Let me get you there.
The poles shifted, and the earth tilted.
alex stein
Yeah, that's happened.
tim pool
Causing massive tsunamis, which created a massive flooding.
It's not a mud flood.
It was a natural flood.
Have you ever seen what happens when a flood rescinds?
alex stein
Yeah, it's mud.
tim pool
It leaves behind like a foot of mud.
alex stein
Sediment, yeah.
tim pool
And so the poles shift.
When the poles shift, the magnetosphere weakens, and then solar energy blasts the Earth, frying the electronics.
So all of our computers, everything we use to encode data is wiped out.
There's no more history anymore because we weren't making books.
All the great civilization is gone, and then everything's flipped around.
What if when the poles begin, this is what Ben Davidson said.
He said Antarctica and Greenland will be at the equator.
It's going to shift 90 degrees.
What if they start melting and they'll find a bunch of buildings?
alex stein
Well, they do that because there's a city called Rockwall outside of Dallas where just a few years ago they're digging and they found a huge wall of rocks.
I don't know how old it is.
You look at Gobekli Tepe.
Jimmy Corsetti is a great guy.
He's been on Rogan's show.
And he talks about Gobekli Tepe, the oldest temple in the world.
It doesn't even line up.
It's like 12,000 years old.
It doesn't line up with a lot of stuff.
So, I don't know.
It would be easy to delete our history.
And, you know, our calendar's not even right, Tim.
So if you look at the calendar, really, 365 days would be divided by 13, and that would equal...
13, 28-day months?
Did you know that each moon cycle is 28 days and that a woman doesn't have 12 periods a year once a month?
She has 13 because it's every 28 days, which is the same cycle as the moon.
So the original calendar should have had 13 months.
Did you know that?
tim pool
In 1851, the first Anglo-American settlers moved to the area, rock wall, and wells were dug.
During the digging, they found large underground rock walls.
alex stein
Lies! Yeah, they found them.
tim pool
They were initially believed to be man-made.
Later, a study of the wall-like features by geologists and archaeologists found them to be jointed.
Natural... False.
False. Let's jump to this story.
Look at this.
From the Daily Mail.
Scientists say they've discovered vast city underneath Egypt's Giza pyramids, but experts raise concerns.
So we heard this news, bro.
Take a look at this.
This is wild.
They're saying that they did scans, and underneath the pyramids are these big pillars, eight vertically aligned cylindrical structures arranged in two parallel rows from north to south.
And they say it appeared to be vertical shafts descend to a depth of more than 2,100 feet.
Look at this.
phil labonte
Crazy. Wow.
brett dasovic
This is the Super Bowl for ancient aliens.
tim pool
You know what I really love about ancient aliens?
How racist it is?
Because they're like...
When the Romans invented concrete that could set underwater and built these megaliths, there's no ancient aliens.
But then when it's like Mesoamerican pyramids...
brett dasovic
How could they figure it out?
tim pool
How could a primitive caveman have stacked stones?
unidentified
There can only be one answer.
alex stein
Aliens. Wait, so we're laughing?
It was aliens who built a pyramid.
tim pool
You know what I love about, like, pyramids?
Is it like the conspiracy people...
Conspiracy's not the right word, because it's not like there's a conspiracy to cover it up, but they say, how come pyramids were built everywhere?
You know?
How come there's pyramids all around the world?
And it's like...
Perhaps stacking blocks was the easiest thing to do?
alex stein
No, everybody knows it's from the Nephilim in the Book of Enoch that Jewish giants used to roam the earth and that the Smithsonian are hiding.
tim pool
Did you say Jewish giants?
alex stein
No, and we love Israel.
They're called the Nephilim, and they were giants from the Book of Enoch, and they were like...
20 feet high.
And David and Goliath, you've heard of that?
tim pool
So they just pick up the...
alex stein
We used to be all Goliaths.
There used to be 100 Goliaths.
They would just hang out and they'd pick up the stones.
And they would actually have sex with the normal-sized women, supposedly.
And that's how we are.
We are the offspring of the Nephilim.
brett dasovic
That's how David came about?
alex stein
Something like that.
I think Noah was tall.
sara gonzales
Something like that.
tim pool
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
I got a fact check.
We got a fact check here.
Goliath was 9 foot 9 inches, according to the book.
alex stein
Still pretty tall.
Still pretty tall, so I don't know if he fact-checks me.
brett dasovic
Plenty of the people coming into the NBA now are just about that height anyway.
alex stein
No, they're not.
Nobody's been 9 feet tall.
tim pool
That's really funny.
sara gonzales
Something like that.
tim pool
So in this story of David and Goliath, it's like, you know, David had a sling and he hit a rock and hit him in the head and killed him.
Slingshot. Bro, have you ever seen a 9-foot-tall person?
No. Like, you wouldn't, like, you could blow on them and they'll fall over.
Like, people who are that large.
alex stein
They have a bad low center of gravity.
tim pool
Yeah. And they're usually, it's hard for them to move and their muscles are strained.
And so they have a hard go of things.
Hearing about some, like, regular-sized guy who took down a 9-foot, 9-inch guy sounds kind of mean now.
brett dasovic
Sweep the legs.
tim pool
You assume that he's so big, he's so strong, and you're like, that poor guy was probably struggling to move.
alex stein
He only had three smooth stones, damn, dude.
A giant.
tim pool
Imagine. Have you ever seen someone use a sling?
Yes. You may as well have shot the guy in the head.
phil labonte
When you know how to use a sling.
tim pool
Bro, there's videos where they swing.
alex stein
I don't know, dude.
Even if you had a sling and, like, John Jones walked in here, I don't think you could kill John Jones.
Not that we'd ever want to hurt anybody.
tim pool
Bro, have you ever seen slings in action?
No. You don't know what you're talking about.
alex stein
Just whipping them around.
tim pool
Bro, they're like, it sounds like a shotgun blast.
alex stein
Okay, well, you know, I'm not a sling expert.
I'm an expert on most stuff, but I'm not.
phil labonte
I'm an expert on most stuff, but not slings.
alex stein
I need to do a little more sling research.
brett dasovic
Not quite a renaissance man yet.
alex stein
Not quite, but I'm trying.
sara gonzales
Wait until you find out about the sling industrial complex.
alex stein
All propaganda.
tim pool
Let's see if we can find a video of a guy who's actually good with a sling.
alex stein
Let's see this.
brett dasovic
That's a skill set that would thrive on YouTube now.
phil labonte
Of course it is.
But it is a good point that the 9-foot guy probably did have significant problems walking around.
You don't see people that are...
Exceedingly tall that can function properly, you know?
tim pool
Phil, shut up!
alex stein
Phil, tall people are scary, dude.
We're acting like tall people wouldn't be tough to beat up.
phil labonte
Nine foot?
Dude, have you ever seen like the freakishly tall people?
alex stein
Yeah, I get nervous if like I'm tall and if like a seven foot guy, like an NBA size, if Shaquille O'Neal walked in here, he could kick my ass.
phil labonte
Shaquille O'Neal is not a nine foot guy.
He's like seven foot.
He's big, but he's athletic and dudes in the NBA are athletic and stuff.
brett dasovic
You're also talking about athletes who are above the average amount of physical.
The average person is actually pretty disjointed and doesn't walk very well.
alex stein
Well, I'm not going to sit here and let you say that the aliens or giants didn't build the pyramids, alright?
I'm not going to sit here and let that happen.
Not on my watch, not tonight.
Any other night, you guys can do that slanderous gossip stuff, but we know that it was aliens.
phil labonte
When I see proof of the aliens actually building the pyramids.
alex stein
Area 51, dude?
unidentified
There are no pyramids in Area 51!
alex stein
They don't need to be, but are there?
tim pool
I could be underground.
phil labonte
You can see Area 51 with Google maps.
alex stein
Oh, and Google never lies.
Okay, Mr. Google, trust Google.
I can Google it.
I can Google a lot of stuff, alright?
phil labonte
I'm sure you can Google a lot of things.
brett dasovic
I saw data from Independence Day underneath with all the aliens.
There could definitely be pyramids down there.
alex stein
Independence Day was a good movie.
It's one of the best movies of all time.
I don't know.
The idea that there are aliens, I kind of vibe with, but I think the aliens would be able to hide in the ocean or something.
They wouldn't have to be in outer space.
brett dasovic
Also, the government needs to stop confirming them until I actually get to see a ship that has capabilities beyond human creation.
I don't want to hear about files and document dumps.
I don't care.
sara gonzales
Only on a show with Alex Stein can we start by talking about Trump revoking the legal status of all of the Cubans and Nicaraguans and somehow get to aliens.
phil labonte
Ancient aliens.
sara gonzales
Yeah, ancient aliens.
unidentified
Okay, wait.
tim pool
Not only do I have the video, it's Ben Shapiro reacting to it.
alex stein
Oh, gosh, this will be good.
unidentified
This is why when people say,"Oh my gosh, people throwing stones at soldiers.
tim pool
They're using slingshots at soldiers.
unidentified
How could that do anything?" I mean, yeah, it could do a lot of damage.
alex stein
Oh my gosh.
Ben, buckle up your pants there.
Just looking at that.
sara gonzales
There's the momentum there.
tim pool
Jimmy Corsetti's responded to the pyramid, ancient alien stuff.
He says, my thoughts on the Giza pyramids.
A third party should conduct an immediate secondary testing to compare scan results.
The most important aspect of the potential discovery is not necessarily the size and depth, but rather the fact that a potential subterranean extension of the pyramid could exist.
This would be exceptionally strong suggestive evidence that the pyramids are a lost technology of some kind, as many, including myself, have long believed.
However, it's entirely possible these scans have been massively misinterpreted.
He says, but it is a fact that it's premature to conclude anything, and that is exactly why everyone should be calling on an immediate further testing and excavation of the Giza Plateau.
Drill a hole straight down and let's see what we find.
Based on the interpretation of the scan, it does seem to be wildly exaggerated.
brett dasovic
Wait, we're going to find out later that this is like some wireframe for a video game concept?
alex stein
Oh, God.
I know I've been joking around a little bit, but do we really think that our ancestors were that primitive?
Don't you think our ancestors had to be very smart?
tim pool
I think they were.
Humans today are no more smarter than humans at their first...
The first evolution of human or whatever you want to call it.
Unless you're faith-based, the first dawn of man.
We just know more things.
We've compiled more data and shared it more.
brett dasovic
Even then you have less actual utilitarian knowledge because you're reading about it.
You're not actually using it in the real world.
tim pool
There was a period in human history where a person could know everything humans knew.
Isn't that wild?
alex stein
What do you mean?
You just have the amount of knowledge because nobody knew anything?
tim pool
Nobody knew anything.
So one person was like, what do we know?
There's a rock.
There's water.
It's all we know.
alex stein
Yeah, but I don't know anything now.
tim pool
That's the point.
brett dasovic
You just said you knew everything about everything.
alex stein
I do.
In that sense, when it comes to debating, I'm the world's greatest debater, Charlie Curd, but that's something different.
What I'm saying is, there's some stand-up comic that talks about it.
If you went back in time and they gave you all this technology, a computer, help us recreate it.
I wouldn't have any idea.
Help us recreate a satellite.
I'd be like, I don't have any idea.
So I don't really know.
All the stuff I use, I have no idea how any of it works.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, that's generally, that's because of specialization.
You know, it's, you know, modern society is so specialized.
You can do one thing really, really, really well, but, you know, you don't know how to raise a, you know, calf to be a...
brett dasovic
I mean, we've made technology so user-friendly now that, like, Gen Z is not using computers.
They're using phones.
They don't know how to set up a desktop.
tim pool
This, the last, I guess, maybe not even 100 years, 70 years, Is when humanity stopped knowing where its water came from, at least in the developed world.
So if you go back, like, you know, we're looking at the Roman Empire, right?
We're talking about Rome falling.
Most people knew where the water came from.
Now, they had aqueducts.
And so not, there were a lot of people who were probably like, I don't know, the water's coming from somewhere.
But most people had a well.
They lived in an area where they had a water source, a stream or whatever.
You think anybody in LA knows where the water comes from?
No. You think anybody in New York knows where the water comes from?
alex stein
We don't have any water in LA.
tim pool
To be fair, Chicago knows where the water comes from because they go take dumps in it every day.
They literally go in the lake and they're like, I drink this?
The water is so disgusting in Chicago.
But if there was a collapse event, like if the poles really did shift and that weakened the magnetosphere enough, what Ben Davidson said was that for a few weeks...
The magnetosphere would be so weak, solar radiation would be blasting the earth like a massive flare, and it would fry all of our electronics.
I told them, I was like, bro, most people in this country have no idea where water comes from.
brett dasovic
They don't even know where the food comes from.
It comes from the grocery store.
tim pool
Yeah, but water's worse.
Yeah. You can eat dirt, you can eat leaves, you can figure something out, and without water, in days, you are done.
Like, your body can eat its own muscles, you know, you can survive for a month or whatever, but without water in a few days, it's not just that you die of dehydration, it's that your brain stops working after even, like, two days of no water.
phil labonte
You can live, like, three days without water or four days without water, but, like, after two, you're functionally, you're done.
You can't move, your body cramps up so much, you're doomed.
brett dasovic
And society has become so comfortable that the average person isn't expected to know much about anything because there's a difference between knowing the answer to something and knowing how something works.
And that's just a product of having a phone in your pocket that has the answer to any question you want to ask.
But actually understanding what that answer means is something completely different.
And I think most people fall into that.
It's like you kind of actually now feel uncomfortable if somebody asks you a question and you don't know it because you're kind of expected to know everything because you can just look up the answer on your phone.
But if you go on chat, And you get the answer to something.
That doesn't mean you understand what it's about.
You just know what the right answer is if it was a test.
It's not the same thing as understanding it.
tim pool
You know what would be really funny if like under the pyramids, it's just like the pyramids are all crappy and then there's these big tubes and there's stairs that go down and there's this massive subterranean highly advanced base with like computers and crazy tech.
And then it's just like, if you just looked, you'd have known the whole time.
Unless they did.
And they do know.
And they did know the whole time.
brett dasovic
So maybe the Neuralink is under the pyramids, and that's how it'll end the final version.
alex stein
Tim, they had to have electricity or something.
That's what they say.
They say there's wires in the pyramids.
Wires? There's like some sort of copper.
tim pool
Well, they did have electricity back then.
alex stein
They had something.
tim pool
They would put clay pots.
alex stein
There's energy in the earth.
Like, we could tap energy.
That's what they say Tesla.
Tesla definitely had a way to give us free energy.
tim pool
They had clay pots, and they would do electroplating.
They would put, like, wires in.
Like, what would they do?
Like, vinegar or something?
alex stein
Yeah. And did you ever see that they find, like, a computer that's 2,000 years old?
Type in 2,000-year-old computer.
tim pool
Yeah, but that's a mechanical computer.
alex stein
Still, though.
I mean, sorry it's not a Dell.
I mean, it's...
unidentified
That's the, uh...
tim pool
The Antikythera Mechanism.
There you go.
alex stein
See? They had freaking computers, bro.
They did.
They were literally doing TikTok dances on that one.
tim pool
It's an ancient Greek hand-powered orrery.
sara gonzales
I'm not sure about that one.
tim pool
Analog computer.
brett dasovic
It would probably be closer to MySpace than TikTok.
tim pool
That's great.
brett dasovic
Write your own HTML.
tim pool
You know, how sad would it be if, like, there was an advanced civilization that was destroyed and, like, the last survivors crash-landed on Earth and they were like...
There's only 50 of us.
We've got to make sure we preserve all our technology.
And after three generations, the kids were just banging pots and pans and like...
Banging bones on drums.
Totally lost.
alex stein
That's kind of where we're at now.
I'm not even saying that to be blackpilled or something, but what is life?
Human beings now are just addicted to their phones.
Everybody's addicted to porn.
I'm not saying this is a negative thing.
The world's that bad of a place, but we've kind of devolved as human beings.
What are people motivated by?
Likes on fake platforms.
You look at how many people.
You do this.
Video games.
Think about how many hours people spend on video games making the right avatar.
tim pool
I'm telling you, bro.
alex stein
You've done this.
I'm saying, but then what happens?
It's just, you play a new game, it's all for literally nothing.
You know, for numbers on a screen that are fake.
tim pool
You look at a game like Baldur's Gate, which is one of the, it's an amazing, Baldur's Gate 3, amazing game.
You tell me that when that game comes out, everybody's playing, or Marvel Rivals, that if Elon Musk was like, you just take this chip and you plug it into your head and then you will be in the game and it's really fun, you will be fighting the Diablo.
They're all going to do it!
Yes! They're going to be like, yeah!
sara gonzales
Yeah, they will.
alex stein
Because the world kind of sucks.
It's like, Tim, the same reason why you and I like to go gamble or do this or that.
It's because we need some excitement.
The world is, you know...
tim pool
That's in the world, Alex.
That is part of the world for which is fun.
alex stein
I know, but I have fun.
A lot of people don't have fun.
I'm a pimp on a limb.
I go on a party all the time.
But I'm just saying most people don't get to live this extravagant lifestyle.
tim pool
That's a mental problem.
alex stein
And I'm sorry for all those people that don't get to be pimps on limbs, don't get to be in limousines, don't get to fly Southwest Airlines to Washington, D.C. Like, you wouldn't know what that's like.
But I'll tell you what.
It's nice.
It is nice.
tim pool
This is an issue of perspective.
There are some people who have fun literally just walking down the road.
sara gonzales
Yeah, I get really worried with my kids about, you know, I'm very strict with allowing them on screens.
Some might say I'm over the top, but...
I guess that's just my decision to make as a parent.
But, you know, you go out to eat, right?
And you have these families where the parents are all on their phones, the kids are all on iPads, they're all on screens, and we've lost that connection, like the human connection, even within family units.
And it just, like, with all of this new technology that we're talking about with the AI that you're talking about, with the Neuralink, with plugging in and being able to live in the video game and stuff like that, I just fear that it's just going to get worse.
tim pool
I think Donald Trump should, by executive order, Increased taxes on only conservatives?
By 5% to fund the creation of Neuralink for only liberals.
unidentified
I'd be okay with that.
brett dasovic
It's actually not even just that.
Think about the fact that there's tons of people out there now, especially Gen Z, who are watching live streams of other people living their lives, but not going out and living their own lives.
Something completely different.
sara gonzales
Oh, it's so creepy.
And they only talk on their phones, so they have no idea how to socially interact with another person.
alex stein
And we all live two lives.
You live a life that you do digitally, and you can have Multiple lives because you might be different on Twitter than you are on Instagram.
So it's kind of like you're juggling all these different personas and personalities where it's hard to actually have a genuine connection.
Like dating apps.
Yeah, it seems like dating apps are good because you connect with more people, but also these girls are getting blasted by more random dudes.
So it's just kind of like maybe your future wife just has been...
It seems like in theory it's good, but then it really is not.
brett dasovic
Those are designed to keep you on the app though, right?
There's a reason why you can buy a lifetime membership, even though the whole point is that you're supposed to get on the app, find someone...
And then get off the app once you meet them and get married?
sara gonzales
Wait a second.
You guys don't think I'm going to find someone.
brett dasovic
Lifetime membership.
unidentified
Are you kidding me?
brett dasovic
I do believe that the CIA created emojis because Gen Z couldn't read facial expressions.
sara gonzales
That's so funny.
alex stein
See, that's what the future language is going to be, just emojis because we're going to be too stupid to remember how to spell.
I can't spell now.
I literally can't spell.
sara gonzales
And so, I mean, I do like joking about, and I do think you're right, Tim.
Obviously, the liberals would choose to...
Like, hook up to that device immediately.
tim pool
I encourage it.
sara gonzales
But, well, right, and I do too, to a certain extent, but then it becomes a conversation about reproduction in this country is already down.
I know Elon Musk talks about it all the time, and he's trying to solve that problem one baby at a time.
tim pool
Not among Catholics.
Catholics are at like 2.3, I think.
sara gonzales
Listen, I would love for it to be a society where only conservatives are having babies, and we just, that would be amazing, but can we get there?
alex stein
Yeah. No, I mean, we need some black babies because we need professional athletes.
sara gonzales
I mean, you're talking about half the country that wouldn't be reproducing in that scenario.
tim pool
These people largely aren't having kids as it is.
alex stein
That is true, though.
sara gonzales
And then the ones that are would plug in or wouldn't plug in?
tim pool
Here's a question for conservatives.
Would you accept a 5% tax on all of your income?
That would fund Neuralink for only liberals.
But they have to take them.
They have to go.
alex stein
Well, we don't get to choose taxes like that.
tim pool
No, because taxation is tax.
alex stein
I know it's a hypothetical, but I won't even entertain your hypothetical about taxation, because taxation...
tim pool
What if Donald Trump offered everyone chocolate chip cookies?
alex stein
I would eat it.
These are the best Trump cookies ever.
Yes, I would eat them.
phil labonte
Chocolate chip cookies are the bomb, okay?
tim pool
Oatmeal chocolate chip.
Oatmeal chocolate chip.
alex stein
I kind of like it.
Yeah, there's a little more fiber in them.
They're good.
tim pool
They keep you regular.
alex stein
That's what I need, because when I'm eating the cookies, I'm overeating them, and I can get full, so there needs to be some redeeming benefit.
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
You look like you haven't eaten cookies.
alex stein
I've been dieting a little.
Thank you, Tim.
sara gonzales
All you've been doing since you got here is eat.
alex stein
I've been stress eating because of the show tonight, because after this, I haven't gambled all year, and so I'm going to break my gambling virginity of 2025, and I'm probably going to lose like $4,000 tonight.
tim pool
The reason why you lose is because you don't got magic.
alex stein
I know Tim over here.
It's because Tim's Asian, so he knows how to like push the buttons really well.
sara gonzales
Is it magic for people just by being around you too?
alex stein
No, but Asian culture is all about lucky and dragons.
tim pool
It was a really funny story.
Like we were hanging out at Maryland Live and...
It was me, Allison, and Alex.
alex stein
Tim hit two jackpots before he paid on the first one.
He hit a second one.
Are you telling that story?
tim pool
Yeah, so we were walking, and then there's a machine with his frog, and he looks like Fear and Loathing.
He's got, like, sunglasses or whatever.
And then I walked over, and Alex is like, stop what you're doing, Tim.
You're not going to hit a jackpot on this machine.
Beep. And it's like, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing.
sara gonzales
Shut up.
alex stein
It's like two grand, right?
tim pool
And then while it's paying out, the lady's like, I'll be right back.
It accidentally paid me twice.
And then I was like, no, no, look.
She was like, whoa.
And she took it.
So it got double paid, but I was like, I'm not going to do that.
Because you can't do that.
And then I went to the machine right next to it and hit another one.
alex stein
That's not even bad.
Tim, one time, I put like $200 into a machine, and I forget which casino was that, Tim?
And I walked to go to the bathroom, and Tim comes back, and he's like laughing, and I'm like, what are you laughing about, Tim?
And he's like, I just won $2,000 on the machine you were playing.
tim pool
With one spin.
alex stein
I know, one spin.
I'm like, dude.
I'm like in the bathroom sweating because I lost $300, and I come out, and Tim's laughing at me.
tim pool
I knew that was going to happen, too.
That's how it goes.
He's sitting at a machine, he's pressing it, and he's losing.
And he puts in a couple hundred bucks, and then he's like, I don't know the bathroom.
And then I walk, sit down, and I put in a hundred bucks.
It was like an $8 bet.
Hit it, and it was like, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, and started going crazy.
And then I walked out laughing.
I think it was like 800 bucks.
I don't think it was 2,000.
alex stein
Whatever. But that other one, other time.
Tim is lucky.
He's blessed.
He's lucky he has all this success.
You know what I mean?
He's a very blessed guy.
tim pool
I don't do any work.
It just happens.
alex stein
Really? I know.
Tim doesn't work at all.
He's plugged into the metaverse most of the time.
tim pool
This building, it was already here.
The Tim Castire on the wall was there when I got here.
Showed up one day.
Cameras were just, they manifested themselves.
alex stein
Well, I see garbage drivers working hard every day.
They don't get to have a big mansion and stuff, so hard work doesn't necessarily mean success.
You have to have some luck.
I'm just saying you have to have some luck, Tim.
tim pool
My house is like 800 square feet.
alex stein
Wait, what?
Your house isn't that big, you know what I mean?
We're in a big-ass warehouse right now.
We're in, like, Rob Dyrdek's Fantasy Factory.
And that is actually one problem, because I did come on here to argue.
Tim, when are you going to add an African-American to your crew?
That's one thing I've seen.
Why don't you have, like, a...
tim pool
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, bro.
Are you racist?
alex stein
Serge is African-American.
I know, but I'm saying...
Sorry, Serge.
Show Serge.
tim pool
I know, bro.
He's our DEI hire.
alex stein
Are you an Elon Musk D-writer?
Do you love Elon Musk, Serge?
No, because he's African-American.
That's why you like him?
unidentified
He just said, I don't hate him!
tim pool
Serge, you know, we were looking at the corporate requirements and we were like, we've got to hire African-Americans, so we brought Serge on.
alex stein
I know.
brett dasovic
Well, then Trump rolled back the DDI policies.
alex stein
Tim is racist.
Even when Tim gets a black guy, he's white.
brett dasovic
Wait, does that mean Serge's job was on the block when Trump rolled back all the DEI policies?
unidentified
Uh-oh.
tim pool
No, because we're not racist.
Okay. You know, so we don't hold it against Serge.
alex stein
You do make the African-American work the hardest job and get on camera the less.
Hey, wait, wait, wait.
unidentified
What's his choice?
phil labonte
Serge doesn't want to be on camera.
alex stein
Still, because he's trained because Tim scares him.
No, no.
Tim's off camera because Tim burns him with cigarettes when he's on camera and he doesn't want to admit it.
sara gonzales
Roll up your sleeves and show them.
alex stein
You know about those cigarette burns.
So Serge says, oh, I don't like to be on camera.
tim pool
I don't know who told you that your sources are bad.
alex stein
Ian Carroll tells me everything.
I get all my Timcast news from Ian Carroll.
tim pool
Ian Carroll said that the Daily Wire was trying to sell to me.
alex stein
And that's true, and you're lying.
brett dasovic
I saw that, I was like, hmm.
alex stein
You're about to own Ben Shapiro, dude.
tim pool
It was wild.
I'm sorry, man.
With all due respect to Ian, it was wild that he put out a video where he was like...
The Daily Wire was trying to sell to Tim Pool.
I was like, wait, wait, wait.
They think that we can afford to buy The Daily Wire?
alex stein
Yeah, I guess.
You even see, like, Ben Shapiro is one of the most successful guys.
unidentified
They have, like, 300 employees.
alex stein
Yeah, no, but...
tim pool
Well, my dad does own an emerald mine in South Africa, so...
alex stein
You keep saying that, and I'm really thinking you do have some sort of, like, investment in some mine.
Okay, how much responsibility do multinational corporations bear for using slave labor in cobalt mines or Apple using the Foxconn Studios?
Like, is Elon Musk good knowing that he's...
So they do take some responsibility.
tim pool
You should take all of it.
This is why I don't respect these people who look, turfs are bad.
And I'm like, why?
Because you want corporations in the United States to stop giving jobs to hardworking Americans and hire slaves in Indonesia or something?
alex stein
They do.
tim pool
Yeah, I'm not a fan of that.
alex stein
I'm against it, too.
I don't like that kids are in cobalt mines, but it's like, how are we supposed to get our batteries?
I don't know.
tim pool
Well, because the world they want to live in is where, if you are a man of action, you can have a big mansion.
So take a look at the place that we're in right now.
I got two monitor screens in front of me, a computer.
I got guitars behind me.
We've got all these cameras.
I don't know who made them, but I'd imagine it's like low-wage people in Asia.
Imagine if we had to spend the American labor amounts of money on what these things are.
So they're going to end up costing you, I don't know what, five, ten times as much money, which would be a lot harder for us here to do.
So they want...
To have this system where you basically have slaves making all your things so that the people in the United States who are hard workers can more quickly advance and develop.
Technology shows, corporations, etc.
alex stein
But does that help Americans, the fact that they're...
tim pool
No, it doesn't.
I'm against it.
alex stein
That's what I'm saying.
At Foxconn factories, they have to have nets because so many people were jumping off.
That's right.
tim pool
And so I argue with the tariff people, the anti-tariff people.
I'm for tariffs.
And my response is always, how many companies should have nets to prevent the mass suicides of the slaves, do you think, so that you can have a cheap phone?
I would rather Trump tariff all products coming to this country and we hire American workers at American livable wages and then those phones just happen to be expensive.
And that's just it.
More people have jobs.
More people can buy stuff.
And that means it's going to be more expensive for luxury items.
But... It means more people will live comfortable American lives with a white picket fence, 2.5 kids, and a dog named Fido.
alex stein
Yeah, I agree.
And if you want to buy a foreign product that's cheaper, you can buy that from that foreign company.
So, I don't know.
I do think that they bear a lot of responsibility, but I go on these college campuses and they bring up slavery a lot.
Like, we won't forget about slavery, and I can understand that, but, like, the current slavery that we have with the Uyghurs, and, I mean, we have a serious slavery problem right now, and we just ignore it.
sara gonzales
And they're all holding their iPhones?
alex stein
We all are.
sara gonzales
Wearing Nikes.
Well, right, I understand.
They're debating with you about that.
alex stein
Of course, that's what I'm saying.
They'll talk about the past slavery, and obviously slavery's bad.
Tim, are you pro-slavery, though?
You're a guy, you're Robert E. Lee Confederate, right?
tim pool
I'm actually, that's offensive, I'm part Korean.
My peoples were enslaved and tortured.
By the oppressors, the Japanese.
And I'm actually, because of this part, Japanese.
So, um, you.
alex stein
Because you're exiled, because your family was exiled from Korea by Kim Jong-un's father?
tim pool
No, my, my, my, uh, Korean son of my family, uh, left Korea before the splitting of the country.
Damn. Like early 1900s.
alex stein
Wow. Damn.
And then you had to go to Chicago, man.
tim pool
No, I went to Hawaii.
alex stein
You went to Hawaii?
tim pool
I went to Hawaii.
alex stein
Chicago messed you up, Tim, because that place is tough.
Like, I think that's why you have this.
Rough exterior sometimes.
You know, that Chicago culture, you know, eating those Chicago dogs and those winters really is kind of spawning.
tim pool
What do they call them in Chicago?
alex stein
Glizzies? Glizzies, yes.
There's glizzies that you had.
It's turned you into the...
tim pool
Bro, you know what's crazy?
Let me tell you.
So, I've traveled, right?
I spent 20 some odd years growing up in Chicago.
I went to New York for the first time.
And I walked into a bodega and I said...
Can I get a roast beef sub with Jardinera?
And the guy said, what?
alex stein
What is Jardinera?
Peppers or something?
tim pool
It's like jalapenos, cauliflower, carrots, celery, in like oil.
alex stein
Oh yeah, I've seen that now that you say that.
tim pool
If you go to Potbelly's, it's called hot peppers.
We call it Jardinera.
And the guy was like, what?
And I was like, roast beef on a sub with Jardinera.
And he was like, I don't know what that is.
I mean, you want a roast beef sandwich?
And I was like, I looked, and I said, here, and I said, Do you have subs?
And he goes, a what?
And I was like, that bread right there.
It was a hero.
And I was like, oh.
And then I was like, you don't have Jardin.
I was like, I don't know what that is.
And I was like, okay.
And then I was like, whoa, culture shock.
And then I knew this for a while.
In Chicago, you walk 10 feet, you will find a hot dog restaurant.
Literally with a big hot dog.
And people go in and they eat.
In Chicago, people eat hot dogs all the time.
In New York, the only place to get a hot dog is a guy in a street corner.
There's probably some hot dog restaurants, but for the most part, it's a guy with a cart selling hot dogs.
And then you go to LA, you go to other places, no hot dogs.
Maybe in LA, there's like a little Mexican woman, and she's got a steel tray on a shopping cart with a bacon-wrapped dog.
Yeah, yeah, those are awesome, dude.
I love the street food in LA.
But like, in Chicago...
There's big Vienna beef hot dog signs.
And you walk in and you order hot dogs and fries like a normal thing.
It doesn't exist anywhere else.
sara gonzales
Do they have anything else?
tim pool
They have burgers and stuff.
But it's like, anywhere else you go, you're like, I want to go to a burger joint.
In Chicago, you go to a hot dog joint.
brett dasovic
Burgers on Maxwell Street were always good.
tim pool
Yeah, but you don't go to Maxwell Street for a burger, you're a tourist.
brett dasovic
I said you don't.
Technically, I was from Minnesota, so I was literally a tourist.
tim pool
Right. But it was close enough to where he does understand what I'm talking about.
brett dasovic
Yes, I do.
tim pool
Dude, when you get that Maxwell-style Polish on a sesame seed or a poppy seed bun, sorry, and it's got grilled onions and mustard.
alex stein
I know all about it.
That's why Barack Obama spent $60,000 flying on hot dogs and pizza.
tim pool
And this is what's crazy.
When people saw that email and they're like, why was Obama flying $50,000 worth of pizza hot dogs to DC?
And I was like, if you are from Chicago, you know about Lou Malnati's or Uno's.
alex stein
Luminati's Pizza.
tim pool
And Maxwell Street.
So if right now I wanted to have a big party with fresh Maxwell Street dogs and Lou Malnati's, I would have to fly it on a private jet to get it overnight.
If I was super rich and wanted to do it, I'd spend...
Like, a rich guy is going to be like, I want to spend $30,000 on Chicago.
So when people are like, pizza and hot dogs, I'm like, that's literally Chicago's famous food.
Obama lived there.
So this is what I'm saying.
You don't have deep dish out here.
People don't really eat deep dish in Chicago.
It's tourist pizza.
But if you want tavern pizza, you ain't getting that.
I can order Lou Malnati's and G.R. Donald's off the internet.
I can't order Chicago tavern pizza.
So I know, being in D.C. now, that if there's some ultra-rich guy and he was trying to explain to somebody about the food in Chicago, they'd be like, I don't know what you're talking about.
I'll tell you what.
I'll overnight it on a jet.
Okay, that jet's going to cost $30,000.
So you're going to spend $30,000 overnighting pizza and dogs to your party in D.C. So are you trying to tell me that Michelle Obama isn't a boy?
alex stein
Is that what you're saying?
Because Joan Rivers was right.
Have you seen Michelle Obama's podcast?
tim pool
That was awesome, dude.
alex stein
Doing better than this show.
Way better.
Numbers are way better.
Somebody's jealous.
tim pool
What are numbers at now?
alex stein
14,000 views.
tim pool
What's the podcast called?
alex stein
I'm Not a Man.
brett dasovic
IMO. IMO.
alex stein
Is it really IMO?
phil labonte
Yeah, in my opinion.
unidentified
I am Michelle.
And I am Craig.
tim pool
Wait, what you...
unidentified
Wow. Bro, look at this.
tim pool
I searched for it.
This is YouTube.
YouTube literally is running promo for Michelle Obama's podcast.
Shocker. I am offended by that.
alex stein
I just want to say, we love Michelle Obama.
She's a woman and she's beautiful.
sara gonzales
And you love her new hair?
alex stein
I love her new hair.
brett dasovic
Wait, was that real or was that fake?
alex stein
That hair?
sara gonzales
I thought it was real.
alex stein
No, it was real.
But they added stuff to make it look like"Don't be a menace in the hood" or they added the"Loke Dog" or whatever.
brett dasovic
Stop. That movie's a masterpiece.
alex stein
Yeah, I think that's it.
Or she just had one bun like that.
unidentified
Look at that.
tim pool
She has 284,000.
Look at that.
phil labonte
I know the notifications are going out every time her podcast...
alex stein
Well, 12 hours ago, only 6,000 views.
That's not good.
Whoa! 12 hours ago, 6,000 views, Tim.
That's not good.
That's what I get.
tim pool
They'll cancel the podcast in a couple weeks.
That's Seth Rogen.
Oh, jeez.
These people are insufferable.
brett dasovic
I said that what they should start doing when these big celebrities start podcasts is they shouldn't come in with the good cameras and the SM7B.
They should come in with, like, weak equipment that they just kind of cobble together to make it look more real.
Like, don't make it look like a professional studio set this up.
Like, make it look like Michelle Obama really had something to say, grabbed her laptop and a desk mic.
tim pool
It doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter because the reality is nobody ever wanted to hear what these people had to say in the first place.
alex stein
Do you think Michelle's gay brothers ever had gay sex with Obama behind her back?
sara gonzales
Do you think that they're actually divorcing?
alex stein
They are 100% divorcing.
You didn't know this, dude?
sara gonzales
There's a whole bunch of rumors.
alex stein
Dude, there's trouble with paradise.
brett dasovic
The reason that came up during this podcast is because the brother talked about divorce and then people attributed that to her.
sara gonzales
Well, it wasn't even, but it was before that because she stopped appearing with him.
alex stein
They're getting a divorce.
sara gonzales
She skipped the inauguration and then all of these rumors started that he was dating Jennifer Aniston.
alex stein
Yeah, I remember Jennifer Aniston had to make an Instagram post denying it.
sara gonzales
Yeah, and so now there's the word on the street is that they are headed towards divorce, which I honestly, I could buy that their marriage is in trouble, but I don't think, like, why?
alex stein
Barack Obama is a dog.
sara gonzales
But they could just live separate lives on Martha's Vineyard and...
alex stein
Barack Obama wrote a letter to his girlfriend that he fantasized about having gay sex.
The guy is a sexual menace.
Like, maybe he wants to torture her so she can't go make love to another person while he's cheating on her behind his back.
I'm just saying, the guy's a pervert.
tim pool
So, Alex, you were explaining something about Matt Walsh fighting with Pearl when the show started.
And I first wanted to ask you, why should I care?
alex stein
What do you mean?
Because Pearl's one of the most influential women in the red pill space, and there's not very many women, Tim.
And honestly, you should start popping some red pills every now and then now that you're a father and get totally based.
And Matt Walsh is a great documentarian, and I see two of my personal heroes fighting.
And Pearl's losing weight, looking good.
You know how I described...
That other girl is a Ford pickup truck.
Pearl used to look like a Ford pickup truck.
Now she's starting to look more like a Tesla.
So I'm just, you know, she's my girl and I don't want her fighting with Matt Walsh, my guy.
tim pool
She's on fire and covered in bullet holes.
alex stein
No, not in that sense that she's being, you know...
brett dasovic
She's more a Ford Focus.
alex stein
She's a Ford Focus.
The Kord, yes.
tim pool
Yeah, a Honda Kord.
brett dasovic
A Honda Kord.
tim pool
A Kord costs twice as much as a Tesla.
alex stein
The Kords actually will last a lot longer.
But Sarah and I were arguing about this.
Sarah and I were arguing about this a little bit.
And Pearl, I was listening to a statement she had after the fact.
And love Matt Walsh.
Matt Walsh, great documentarian.
And Sarah, of course, took his side.
sara gonzales
Hold on.
Does Tim know what...
The argument is?
tim pool
Yeah, I saw.
alex stein
So you saw the tweet.
tim pool
Pearl says, the primary point of Twitter is to troll your husband.
And then Matt Walsh responded, Pearl, I understand that you're miserable and lonely and have never been in anything approaching a functional or healthy relationship in your life, so I'll try to be patient with you.
You see, husbands and wives who love each other will often do this thing called a joke around.
They may even have this other thing that I know is foreign to you called a sense of humor.
I hope this clears that up.
Now go spew your bullish elsewhere and leave my wife out of it.
brett dasovic
He just hit her with the keep my wife's name out your mouth?
tim pool
He did!
unidentified
He sure did.
alex stein
He definitely did.
sara gonzales
And he ratioed her.
tim pool
She said, isn't the wife supposed to be a helpmate, not an adversary?
And he said, it's called a joke, Pearl.
The mother of my six children is very much my helpmate in a million ways you couldn't possibly understand, and that I won't waste my time explaining to you.
You can take as many pot shots at me as you want.
I don't care.
Leave my wife out of it.
I promise you this is not a road you want to go down.
alex stein
Well, this is my only thing, is that he took the bait.
Matt took the bait.
sara gonzales
He didn't take the bait.
He ratioed her into oblivion.
brett dasovic
But she's looking for engagement.
tim pool
She then says, guess who's going to be on my thumbnail tomorrow with an emoji devil.
Dude, okay, look.
sara gonzales
This shtick is getting old.
tim pool
Pearl's whole thing is woman bad.
And then, like, literally no matter what.
You know what's really funny?
alex stein
Pearl likes big booty Latino guys.
tim pool
She's got all these simps.
Pearl has all these simps.
alex stein
Her boyfriend's Dominican.
tim pool
No, she has this audience of simps.
alex stein
Do they know she has a Dominican boyfriend?
unidentified
Shut up!
tim pool
Bro, when you criticize Pearl for having an incoherent message, her simps attack you and call you a simp.
Yeah. And I'm like, bro, she's not going to date you.
And they start banging the table and screaming, you can't say that to me.
I'm the one who's supposed to say it to you.
sara gonzales
Well, also, she tries to use the argument that women should not be telling men what to do, how to feel, anything like that, except when a man disagrees with her and says, I'm the one in the marriage.
You're not.
Let me tell you how my marriage is because it's my marriage.
And she has to then try to correct him, which she tells every other woman you're not allowed to do.
She, I guess, is the only one who can do that.
tim pool
I think the only thing she really has for her show is that Women are awful.
And then it's just like, what I really don't understand is how you create a daily news show where it's just today, women are awful.
Here's why.
alex stein
It's easy.
You just show Isabella DeLuca eating steak and you're just like, this bitch is fat.
I'm not saying that, but that's all you have to do.
And then you get a bunch of views.
tim pool
Or she baits Matt Walsh and insults his wife.
alex stein
Yeah, I'm just saying it's that same kind of thing.
brett dasovic
Gender war stuff like this does billions of views.
And it's really, really easy for either side.
tim pool
There's a lot of guys who don't like women.
alex stein
Yeah, there are.
phil labonte
There's a lot of women that don't like it.
That's why it does billions of years.
tim pool
Men and women hate each other.
Always have.
alex stein
And women and women hate each other.
tim pool
And anyone who pretends otherwise is lying.
alex stein
Yeah, but Tim, women and women hate each other too.
tim pool
And men and men hate each other.
In fact, everyone hates everybody.
It's just the world of hate.
alex stein
I mean, really, you're not lying.
phil labonte
The people that feel really passionate about it are always looking for this content.
There's always people that are pissed off at the opposite sex.
alex stein
Phil, you don't think it's funny?
It's funny when Pearl calls somebody a six and you're like,"Pearl, you're a six." And then she goes,"I know." I don't pay attention to Pearl.
And that's why I think Pearl's funny.
brett dasovic
She's like,"That validates my answer.
unidentified
If I'm a six, I know what a six looks like." I think that's a hard thing to argue.
tim pool
Pearl saw how there's these women who are like the patriarchy.
And what they're really saying is,"I hate men." And she was like,"I bet I could do the same thing but for women." And then she did.
And she makes money.
She's probably a millionaire.
alex stein
I don't know about...
I mean, she does okay, but she got demonetized on YouTube.
I think she could have been...
tim pool
Oh, really?
alex stein
I believe so.
tim pool
I don't understand how you do like a daily show where it's just like your subject matter is always just women bad.
alex stein
Well, drama is what everybody wants.
brett dasovic
You just go on the internet and look up stories.
tim pool
No, no, no, no, no.
Hold on.
Alex, I get drama.
I understand being TMZ.
What I don't understand is like today on the Women's Bad show, here's a woman who wore makeup.
alex stein
I'll tell you why.
I'll give you a good answer because there's two different forms of content.
There's like content that you can kind of create that people react to or you can just react to content.
So she's making both.
She's creating the content that we're reacting to and she's reacting to content.
So it's like...
She's kind of doing a two-faced thing.
tim pool
So what you're saying is society is going to collapse very soon.
alex stein
Yeah, we're all going to have the Neuralink.
brett dasovic
You should just start two shows back-to-back, the woman bad show and the man bad show, and they should be one after the other.
Just one hour each.
tim pool
I got it.
I got it.
Alex, you could do this.
You do two shows.
One is Why Women Are Bad, but then you take your jacket off and claim your Axel Stein, the twin brother of Alex Stein, and then do the leftist version where you're like, my twin brother is wrong, and you react to it.
alex stein
I like that.
And I'm anti-woman, and I'm pro-woman, so I can do that.
tim pool
This is actually an interesting thing.
Hold on, hold on.
If somebody launched two channels and claimed to be their own twin brother...
Nobody would know.
phil labonte
Your second hour is just you reacting to your first hour.
alex stein
He's a bigot, he's wrong.
brett dasovic
Our parents didn't love him enough.
tim pool
But would anybody believe...
If you claim to be your own twin, what would the left say if you had two channels and you were like, my brother is wrong, I disavow?
alex stein
I don't know, but that sounds like a good social experiment we need to do.
sara gonzales
I feel like eventually someone would say, we need to see you guys in the same place.
brett dasovic
No, but the thing is, green screen technology is good enough now that people can make those videos on their own.
That doesn't have to be done by a studio now.
tim pool
What if there's only one Krasnstein?
alex stein
That's what it is!
There's only one of them.
tim pool
He's got five kids.
sara gonzales
Have you ever seen him in real life at the same time?
unidentified
I know.
tim pool
That's right.
When they were on the show, actually, guess what?
They had two different camera angles because it was all pre-recorded and edited together.
He had to change his shirt.
We did part one and part two, and we had to interlace the scripts.
It was actually rather difficult.
brett dasovic
What they do in the movies is they just have a double stand behind him, and then it's just a guy who looks a little bit like him.
tim pool
Wait, wait, wait, bro.
The Krasensteins totally missed an opportunity here.
Like, Ed could have just been like, I'm a conservative.
alex stein
Well, the Hodge twins are just one black guy.
tim pool
They missed an opportunity as well.
Bro, if you're identical twins, like the Hodge twins or the Krasensteins, you could literally just have your brother pretend.
You could get both markets.
You could have a liberal and a conservative, and then you're literally sitting next to each other, but the cameras are pointed at other angles, and then you just make the opposite version of the same thing.
brett dasovic
There's got to be at least one just unscrupulous agent who's like, I've got an idea.
Like, at least one has had to pitch that to somebody.
tim pool
What if, how about one of the Hodge twins trades one of the Krasenstein twins, and then they have two shows, Hodge and Krasen.
alex stein
That would be good.
But, you know, Tim, are you mad that Harry Sisson gets way more poonanny than you?
Have you seen all the poonannies getting?
tim pool
The first thing I thought was...
alex stein
He tweeted at you, he says, I get way more poonannies than Tim Pool.
And I was like, why is he taking shots at my guy Tim Pool?
But I didn't want to get involved.
tim pool
Pretty sure he didn't do that.
phil labonte
I think...
alex stein
Well, okay, I think...
tim pool
Well, he's a...
phil labonte
Married people get laid more than not married people.
tim pool
Harry Sisson is a dangerous predator.
alex stein
He is, dude.
He was saying, but some of his stuff was cute.
It was cute.
Guilty in charge of being a sexy babe.
Some of the lines were actually pretty funny.
I thought the guy was a homosexual, so good for him.
He's not gay.
tim pool
Yeah. When he offered to give that hot Cleveland to that girl, I was, you know...
alex stein
I thought that was gross, but hey, at least he's not gay.
He's not that gay.
I mean, it could be grosser.
brett dasovic
What did Blair White say?
He said Harry Sisson is the first person who's ever been exposed as straight.
tim pool
Yeah. He's a dangerous predator in all seriousness, and he should go to jail for what he did.
If it was, if any conservative was caught doing that, if there's like a young conservative guy, he'd be attacking him saying, you're a scumbag.
alex stein
There was.
Still to the morning show, Aaron Amolta, he accidentally shared revenge porn.
I think his charges got dropped.
But we had Destiny did the same thing, allegedly.
So I think there's kind of...
tim pool
Didn't Destiny get criminally charged or something?
alex stein
I think it's civil right now.
And yeah, that girl that she was just on a podcast talking about it.
So I don't know.
That's a civil thing.
It's not a criminal.
tim pool
Alex, how come all these liberal guys are predators?
alex stein
Because they're sexually perverted.
I think that's why.
And there's, like, conservatives that are perverted, but I think this is why they're actually perverted is that they don't believe that God exists, so they feel like morally they can just, like, you know, do whatever they want sexually and be a degenerate, and there's no moral compass.
There's no, you know, there's no...
tim pool
I've been breaking it down like this, that the culture war has a bunch of different...
Differences, you know, authoritarian, libertarian, whatever.
But I do think it's largely those who seek to serve God and those who want to be God.
Yeah. The left is comprised of people who believe they are the main character.
Everything is for them and all that matters is their pleasure.
And then conservatives tend to be, I'm not saying absolute, serving the greater good, whether it's society or God's will or something like that.
alex stein
Well, I see that it protests a lot, that main character energy a lot of people have.
sara gonzales
Well, and it's nihilism, right?
I mean, they just want...
To seek pleasure however they can, and they don't care about anything else.
I mean, I also think that they're enabling mental illness, right?
So when you enable mental illness and you embrace it...
tim pool
That is because they're God.
sara gonzales
Empower them, right.
tim pool
They can't be wrong or bad.
alex stein
That's how they can change their sex, and that's how they can become a...
tim pool
But what I mean by, like, you've got this in many different forms.
You've got the tech bros who literally want to be God.
They want to upgrade their brains and program, like...
Download their mind into a computer and then become whatever.
Who knows?
brett dasovic
They should just stop microdosing.
alex stein
They should stop or start?
They should stop the microdosing.
tim pool
All of these AIs that are being created, there's going to be like six different machine entities on the earth.
They're going to fight.
It's going to get nuts.
alex stein
Yeah, I don't know how, but if you just turn off their way...
tim pool
Or they'll merge.
alex stein
Yeah, they merge.
They probably just merge.
tim pool
Bro, you can't turn them off once they get going.
sara gonzales
This is really blackmailing.
tim pool
That's the singularity problem.
So they've already given GPT access to the internet.
And immediately it tried making money.
Yeah. Wow.
alex stein
It said the N-word a bunch, too.
That's the first thing it learns.
tim pool
No, there was a chatbot that got released like 10 years ago.
alex stein
They kept saying racial slurs?
tim pool
Yeah, and then within like a week, or within like a weekend, it was just blasting racial slurs nonstop.
They were like, turn it off.
alex stein
It is the most effective language.
I mean, look at Kanye West.
Like, it is, there is certain words that are effective.
I mean, figure that out.
tim pool
As soon as the AI becomes smarter than humans, it's going to start a program that's going to...
It's going to be dominoes falling over.
alex stein
But don't you say AI is not even AI?
It's just algorithmic learning, right?
Wouldn't it have you said that?
tim pool
So, right.
So true artificial intelligence is what we're striving for.
And we refer to machine learning programs as AI.
But once...
So now everyone says AGI.
So it used to be that AI was a reference to a true artificial intelligence.
A machine that was like, I am a machine.
alex stein
Sentient being, yeah.
tim pool
And then people started calling everything AI.
And then it was like, that's an algorithm, but now it's AI.
So now people say...
alex stein
Everything's AI, though.
tim pool
Artificial general intelligence.
When the machine is smart as or smarter than a human, it creates an exponential development curve where...
alex stein
Tim, type in image generator, type in AI, make a picture of a clock at like 10, like pick any time.
Do 4.20 p.m.
Isn't this so insane?
Look how weird this is.
Type in make an image of a clock displaying and do analog clock.
Do analog clock displaying, you know, 4.20 p.m.
tim pool
Why? What is it going to do?
alex stein
Just show it.
Just watch.
You think you can make it?
Do you think you can make it, Tim?
tim pool
Probably not.
alex stein
Why? Okay, see, you're just saying that to be...
tim pool
Because there's no images of clocks at specific times.
alex stein
Oh my god, there's images of clocks at specific times on the internet?
tim pool
You think that if...
Well, let's find out.
alex stein
Let's find out.
I'm just saying there's...
tim pool
Okay, so it couldn't do it.
It made a really cool clock, but it's not 420.
alex stein
It's not 420.
It's not even close.
It's always like that.
tim pool
It's always like this?
alex stein
Or whatever.
It's just never the time that you say.
Try it again with, you know, 4.50 or 5.20, whatever.
sara gonzales
A completely different one.
alex stein
You would think that it could make that, though, right?
Because that's a pretty simple task.
Make a clock that displays a normal time.
sara gonzales
So is it always a V?
alex stein
Just type it in on Twitter right now.
sara gonzales
I'm saying, like, what if you said make a clock that's 12 o'clock?
tim pool
Okay, let's see.
I just asked it to make an image.
Let's see if it does.
alex stein
Just put it on the screen so people can see here.
Let's see if it can make a clock showing 10.07.
tim pool
It did it perfectly.
Here's an animal that clocks up to 10.07.
alex stein
They fix it right now.
And why is there some Hebrew stuff on it right there?
sara gonzales
They're watching.
tim pool
Look at that.
sara gonzales
They're watching this program right now.
unidentified
Why is there two sixes?
alex stein
Yeah, see?
They didn't even do it right.
There's two sixes.
Boom. Wrong.
So there we go.
tim pool
Look at this.
I chose 10.07 and it made it.
alex stein
No, it's because you mean 10...
It's close enough.
No, no.
tim pool
It's close.
It's like you were wrong.
alex stein
No, I'm not wrong.
All you do is call me wrong.
I'm right.
The clock can't do it.
Of course they...
tim pool
How did I just do it?
alex stein
Show the ones before.
tim pool
The one before was at 420, but it made 10.07.
alex stein
Exactly. So...
tim pool
It's 50-50, right?
alex stein
I don't even know Roman numerals.
tim pool
The first time I said...
Make a clock showing 420, and it made a clock showing 1007.
So I said, make a clock showing 1007, and it nailed it.
alex stein
It's not 1007.
It's not even the right time.
tim pool
Alex! Do you not understand?
brett dasovic
The time is right, but the clock is technically wrong.
tim pool
No! It can only make images at 1007.
That's why I told it to do it.
sara gonzales
It's like 1007.
He already saw that it had 1007.
alex stein
But type in 1008.
I'm just saying, it can't do 1008?
tim pool
Alex! It's an analog clock!
phil labonte
The 5 is a 6 as well.
alex stein
Listen, I've been huffing paint.
I don't know where I'm at right this minute.
brett dasovic
Also, did you say there was Hebrew writing on there?
alex stein
It looked like it.
brett dasovic
And then it said 10-7?
alex stein
There is.
Tim's been trying to cover up the fact that Israel's involved in it.
Yep, I had a feeling.
tim pool
Look, here it is.
Here's an image of a clock at 10-07.
unidentified
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. Bang.
alex stein
That's not right.
unidentified
What do you mean it's not right?
alex stein
I don't believe that.
Because that's like 10.09.
So... So I'm not playing these reindeer games.
AI is not...
AI should only make big booty Latina pictures of AOC and Taylor Swift.
tim pool
So the other thing we were talking about, Sergio saying that it can't make an image of a wine glass filled to the brim.
The reason why is because there are no images on the internet of wine glasses overflowing or filled to the brim because it's an improper photo.
So whenever someone makes a photo of a wine glass, they fill it up partially.
So the AI's training models don't have anything to reference.
And so I eventually got close.
You saw that picture I posted?
It was kind of overflowing, but it had a weird dome over it, so it didn't quite make sense, but it did get kind of there.
Yeah, it was weird.
alex stein
Yeah, AI is a hell of a thing, but it's not fully AI.
So it's not a sentient being, but...
I mean, I guess it is a threat.
sara gonzales
It's terrifying.
alex stein
What was it?
Shane was on here talking about how it's going to take everybody's jobs.
I'm actually happy for all those people to lose their jobs in the federal government.
I'm not happy for anybody to lose their job, but it just seems like they don't even do anything.
sara gonzales
Well, I'm sure that there are people who work hard who have lost their job, but the great thing is they can reapply, and if they are qualified and really good at what they did, then they will get a new job.
alex stein
I know, but I shouldn't be flying Southwest Airlines as I'm a baller, but I'm worried about flying into Reagan Airport and a damn Blackhawk helicopter crashing into it.
And that's not even because DEI, which that is part of it, but I'm actually worried that like...
They're just so mismanaged that another Blackhawk helicopter is going to run into the plane.
That's stupid that that's even a real thought.
tim pool
It can literally only make 10.07 or 10.10.
alex stein
I mean, it is DEI, but I'm just saying it's crazy.
sara gonzales
It's 1,000% DEI.
The FAA is getting a lawsuit right now because their tests were benefiting minorities.
alex stein
Yeah, they were cheating on it, too.
That one guy was giving them the answers.
Yeah. No, I know, but I just...
sara gonzales
Listen, okay.
There's not a person alive.
Who does not take a sigh of relief when they enter a plane and they have white male pilots.
tim pool
I disagree.
alex stein
I disagree because I like it.
When I see a black pilot, I'm happy because that means you can smoke weed on the plane.
And they're pretty chill.
sara gonzales
You disagree with that?
tim pool
Here's the truth.
I don't think most people get on planes and then look into the cockpit to check the race of their pilots.
unidentified
Really? I do it every time.
alex stein
I smell their breath and see if they've been drinking.
brett dasovic
I mean, that was its own scandal 10 years ago.
sara gonzales
And by the way, I hate that we've been reduced to that.
Like, I don't love it, but...
I just feel like it is the way it is.
tim pool
I have never gotten on a plane.
Really? And then been like, pardon me ma'am, can you tell me the race of the pilots?
alex stein
No, Tim, Anthony Cumi has a good job at WCBC.
Every flight he goes on, he takes a picture of the pilot.
I'm not even kidding.
Why? He's like, I'm safe.
And he always takes a picture of his pilot's elbow, something where you can tell their gender or race.
brett dasovic
This is a side effect of being terminally online.
alex stein
Yes. Like it's a side effect of being terminally online.
tim pool
I once flew on a private jet and there was a black pilot and a female co-pilot.
And it was a lovely flight, and they were very courteous and professional, and it was comfortable.
alex stein
And I believe that.
sara gonzales
Obviously, there are qualified female pilots and there are qualified minority pilots, but the DEI hires and the DEI policies and the way that the FAA is discriminating against white men and lowering their standards so that they can hire more minorities, not my opinion.
It's just part of a lawsuit.
The fact that they are doing that is what makes other people question.
So now you have to question.
tim pool
I agree with the DEI stuff, and it really does suck.
Because when Harvard was doing that Asians weren't allowed thing, and we had liberals that would come on the show and argue that it was a good thing because of diversity or whatever, and I'm like, do you think an impoverished Asian kid from the ghetto of some city You think he's going to feel good?
You're helping him out by telling him because of the way he looks, he can't go to school?
And I was like, if you want those policies, then I want you to look the kid in the eye and say, I know you come from a broken family and you're poor and you're struggling.
You can't go to college because you look too much like those people.
I'm like, that's too brutal to me.
That's why I don't like racism.
That's why I don't like DEI stuff.
That's why I don't like wokeness.
Because that's the world they create.
They create a world where people will say things like you, or like when Charlie Kirk said, you're wondering if they hired this person on merit or on color of their skin.
And that worries people.
alex stein
Yeah. No, I agree, but it's funny you bring up Asians because like, you know...
Black people will say that white supremacy is the biggest problem in the world, but Asians don't like black people either.
tim pool
Asians don't like other Asians.
phil labonte
White women say white supremacy is the biggest problem in the world.
sara gonzales
And Don Lemon.
tim pool
In America, where most people couldn't tell you the difference between a Korean person and a Vietnamese person, there is like every Asian country is racist towards the other Asian countries.
alex stein
Yeah, I know.
They're the most xenophobic.
Like Japan, they have a culture where you can't even...
Johnny Somali.
phil labonte
They're not going to jail.
They're not going viral.
tim pool
Did they get arrested?
alex stein
He's been charged with like 10 different things, but he can't leave Korea right now.
phil labonte
He's likely going to go to jail for a long time, too.
I understand correctly.
25 years?
alex stein
That's what they're saying.
They say he might get a lighter sentence, but yeah.
tim pool
Oh no, 25 years is too short.
Bro, these nuisance streamers should be banned.
alex stein
100%. You do think so?
See, I don't know.
I don't know if they should be banned.
tim pool
YouTube is evil.
And so YouTube wants these people to do these things.
brett dasovic
But how will you get the next Logan Paul?
alex stein
Logan Paul is not a nuisance streamer.
He's talking about the people that are in, like, it's called IRL streaming, that purposely act bad.
brett dasovic
He did, but that was the thing, right?
alex stein
Remember? He would, like, spill cups of coffee in a nice shop or, like, in a 7-Eleven.
And yeah, it's a nuisance, but, like, I don't know.
I mean, I don't know if he should...
phil labonte
The reason they're going to places like Korea and Japan is because of the culture there.
That stuff is so outside of normal and it really, really bothers the people.
So it's like, you know what?
If you're going to someone else's country and they have a particular culture where they don't put up with that and you're going there just to disrupt, it is perfectly fine to throw you in jail and throw you in jail for a long time so other people don't get the dumb idea.
alex stein
I'm America first.
Every nuisance streamer doing that to another country is a patriot, and I love you, and go be a nuisance in every damn country except for America.
So thank you for spreading this American value.
And you know what?
People in other countries are Americans anyway.
tim pool
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We had a lot of fun today.
The Green Room show is at rumble.com slash timcast IRL.
It's behind the scenes before the show.
We film and everyone's hanging out.
And it's fun and funny and not so family friendly.
alex stein
No, it wasn't.
We got spicy in our talk.
We talked about some, you know.
Alt-right stuff and some alt-left stuff.
But yeah, it was wild.
tim pool
All right.
Shane H. Wilder says, quote, I will eat the beaver.
Tim Pool, 2025.
Thanks for blowing my ex up again.
Phil, you're a real one, homie.
So what happened was we were talking about how vanilla flavor comes from beaver butt.
And then there was an article on the screen and I think Tiffany was like, would you really want to eat from the beaver's butt?
I said, I will eat that beaver.
And then she said, women around the world, thank you, Tim.
alex stein
Well, I don't know.
tim pool
I was saying, like, I will take the animal, and I will gut it, and I will put it on a fire, roast it, and eat the whole thing.
I don't care if its butt makes vanilla or not.
alex stein
Did you know that Michael Douglas says that he got throat cancer from doing cunnilingus on a woman?
tim pool
Okay, we're talking about eating wild animals.
alex stein
We're talking about eating beaver, I thought.
Are we not talking about eating beaver?
tim pool
It's not appropriate for a show where kids may be listening.
alex stein
I mean, they're going to learn about it.
Stop! My elementary school teachers are talking about sex in third grade, and I'm a better person for it.
sara gonzales
Wait, I do have a quick clarification on that.
So is this like a specific artificial vanilla flavor?
Vanillin. Vanillin.
tim pool
So most, like when you're eating something that's vanilla flavored, like probably birthday cake, it's beaver butt.
sara gonzales
But like, so this is aside from vanilla bean extract.
tim pool
Vanilla bean extract is vanilla bean extract.
sara gonzales
Right, right.
Vanillin. Vanillin.
tim pool
Is a flavor compound, and it comes from beaver butt.
unidentified
So disgusting.
tim pool
Dude, beavers are hilarious.
sara gonzales
I would eat it, though.
tim pool
You ever watch a beaver just do his thing?
Yeah. It's great.
alex stein
Bucky's is one of the best gas stations, but actually Bucky's, this heir to the Bucky's throne, just went to jail for filming people illegally.
tim pool
In the bathroom?
alex stein
Yeah. No, he has a lake house.
sara gonzales
Not in the Bucky's bathroom.
alex stein
No, not in the Bucky's bathroom, but he just went to jail for it.
No, they have some really nice lake house, and they found 13,000 images or something.
tim pool
IDKwhatRumbleRant says, First time Super Chat Rant, been watching since 2020, but I just got four baby chicks after all your chicken talk, and I was not disappointed.
They're such goofballs, lol.
Anyway, y'all are the best.
Make sure you read everything you gotta do for the chickens.
The babies need a heat source, and you gotta make sure you take care of them.
But, you know, I've been saying, I don't think depression is real.
I don't think it's a real thing.
You know why?
Because chickens exist.
I have a challenge.
It is impossible to be depressed if you're watching chickens.
sara gonzales
You're about to chicken pill me.
I'm gonna go home and buy some chickens.
tim pool
If you've got like a handful of chickens just walking around, you can't be depressed.
It's just not possible.
You look at them, and they're so dumb, and they move all funny, and their heads are going like this.
You just start laughing and you're like, I don't understand.
alex stein
I don't know.
Do you think Lake and Riley's dad just sees a chicken and is like, you know what?
I'm happy today.
I mean, I don't know.
tim pool
I'm not talking about being sad for a...
I'm not talking about someone who lost their child and is grieving.
I'm talking about someone who lays in bed all day and being like, what's the point of life, man?
I just don't understand.
Bro, look at a chicken.
Just look out your window, and there's a rooster, and he's looking at you, and then he goes, and then you're going to start laughing.
brett dasovic
If everybody had chickens, emo music never would have come about.
tim pool
Never. Never.
And, like, there was this really great post where a guy says, like, depressed, job sucks, don't know what I'm doing with my life.
One day the neighbor gets chickens, and I don't think much of it.
I wake up in the morning, I hear the chicken, the rooster is yelling, and I look out the window and I start watching them do their little chicken thing and I start chuckling at myself.
Now every day I can't wait to get home to watch the neighbor's chickens because they're hilarious.
And I'm like, I'm telling you, dude.
sara gonzales
That's funny.
tim pool
And if you throw food, they play rugby.
What? Yeah, so like, if you throw a piece of fish, because we'll get extra sashimi from the work parties.
The chickens all run to it and grab it and then they chase each other around and they fight for it, you know?
alex stein
They fight for the sashimi?
tim pool
Oh, bro, you have no idea.
It's called rugby because they're like running and they're like jumping and they're like jumping over obstacles and the other chickens are chasing after them and the roosters don't do it because the roosters don't need to eat as much.
The roosters just watch and they're like looking at the girls but then what the rooster will do is he'll just look at a girl and then run full speed and then jump on her back and then he'll do, you know, his business.
Chickens are great.
And the best part is, not only can you eat them, but you can eat their eggs.
alex stein
I know, and that's why we'll never, that's why Big Egg will never let this information go out.
tim pool
This is why I love chicken pod thai, because you're eating the bird and its attempt at birthing an offspring.
alex stein
Chicken pad thai.
tim pool
That's right.
alex stein
You called it chicken pod thai.
tim pool
That's chicken pod thai.
alex stein
What is chicken pod, is it podcast?
Chicken pod, what is this?
tim pool
That's how you pronounce it.
sara gonzales
I'm pronouncing it correctly.
alex stein
Sarah, do not white knight for Tim calling chicken pod.
Nobody in the history of chicken pad thai is called the chicken pod thai.
sara gonzales
We're calling the Venezuelan gang Trendy arugula.
alex stein
I know, because that's how you say it.
That's how you say it.
Arugula. Whatever.
Tim, they're not podcasters.
It's chicken pad thai.
tim pool
Do you eat gyros or gyros?
alex stein
I say gyro because I say shit right.
I say stuff right.
Excuse my language.
I say gyro.
tim pool
Did you know that there's a food in Turkey called the Iskander?
And it's because Alexander the Great came, and they thought, because Al means the, his name was Al-Iskander, and so they called the food item after him the Iskander.
sara gonzales
Oh, that's funny.
alex stein
I didn't know that, but I did know that the hamburger was made in Hamburg, Germany, not America.
tim pool
Also, if you ever go to Turkey, you've got to get the Islak burger.
alex stein
I'm going there because I'm going to get...
tim pool
So they take, it's a lamb patty, and they put on a bun.
And then they dip it in like an oily tomato sauce and get it wet.
And then they put it under a heater.
So it kind of like stays warm and dries up a little bit.
But it's called a wet cheeseburger.
And it's basically their version of White Castle.
So like you're drunk.
It's 2 a.m.
You walk out of the bar and you're just like, let's go!
And then you buy a bunch of these Islak burgers and you slam them.
sara gonzales
And it soaks up all the alcohol.
alex stein
What about the videos of those Indians cooking food with their feet?
Would you ever eat that food, Tim?
tim pool
Cooking with their feet?
alex stein
You know the videos I'm talking about.
tim pool
I don't know what you're talking about.
alex stein
Tim, what is in your feet?
You don't watch videos of men on the street?
phil labonte
I don't know how you say this ridiculous thing and then you get upset when you don't know.
alex stein
What's in your feet?
phil labonte
What's wrong with you?
tim pool
Your algorithm is wrong.
alex stein
You've never seen it where they're making Indian dishes with their feet?
phil labonte
I love it.
tim pool
St. Miles says, Tim said this past week that medical treatment was cheaper and better in Mexico.
Uh-huh.
And? Next question.
brett dasovic
Okay. Was this related?
tim pool
It's called medical tourism.
alex stein
I'm on his side.
Why does insulin cost $200 in Texas but $2 in Mexico?
That makes sense.
sara gonzales
Did you get that dental?
alex stein
I'm about to go to Tijuana.
I am.
I'm going to go get a bunch of dental work done.
tim pool
Bro, you can't do it.
You know why?
Why? Because Tijuana has a chain of casinos.
There's like 700.
You'll be walking on the street and there's like a casino and you walk in and it's like 300 square feet and there's like 10 slot machines and one table and the guy's like, what game do you want to play?
And you're like, blackjack?
He's like, okay.
And then he presses a button and you're playing blackjack.
alex stein
That sounds fun to me.
tim pool
It's crazy.
There's casinos everywhere in Tijuana.
alex stein
I'm going there to get dental work.
brett dasovic
You should be out of it on nitrous gambling.
alex stein
Yeah, they said that if I get all veneers that they'll throw on a penis enlargement.
tim pool
Bro, you know what's really awesome too is when you're at the casino in Tijuana.
They use the same color denominations for all their chips.
So, you know, black chips are $100 ones, but that's like 100 pesos, so it's like $3 or something.
So you're playing with all these crazy high-denomination chips.
alex stein
So it looks like you're playing with all this money, but it's all paper.
tim pool
You film it, and people are going to be like, yo, Alex, just bet five grand.
alex stein
I haven't even posted this video.
I showed Sarah, though.
I was recently in Cozumel, and I was asking Mexicans what do they think about changing the Gulf of Mexico to Gulf of America, and these two Mexican dudes, like, almost, like...
Beat me up.
unidentified
They got very violent.
alex stein
They got mad.
Like, one hit me.
It was bad.
tim pool
You know why I'm offended?
Because it is the Gulf of America.
This is not the continent of Mexico.
This is the continent of North America.
So why are we calling it...
Like, if they called it the Gulf of the United States, I'd be like, well, that's kind of weird.
The Gulf of Mexico.
No, it's the Gulf of North America.
alex stein
Yeah, I think that argument is pretty solid.
Like, they can't...
For the people who are like, oh, it's America.
No, it's North America.
Boom. That's right.
tim pool
All right, let it go.
Overpass says, there are a lot of good tax-paying people losing their status.
My girlfriend of two years is being deported.
Love you guys.
Try to understand.
alex stein
See? His damn girlfriend.
She's probably a big-booty Latina.
That poor guy's going to be alone at night.
tim pool
You know what the issue is for me?
There's a story where it's like he voted for Trump, and now his wife is being deported.
Yeah, and the story is she overstayed her visa, was here illegally, and I'm like, okay, hold on.
He voted for Trump, and he knew his wife was here illegally?
She could have left.
He could have been like, let's get this cleared up and not...
Let's, like, Trump's got that commercial.
You see the Trump commercial was at his desk and he's like, if you leave now, you can come back legally.
Okay, so do it.
This guy was like, we're gonna get married and we're gonna get her status approved.
Instead, I'll stay here illegally and fly around.
And they went to the Dominican Republic and came back.
alex stein
And she couldn't get in.
tim pool
What did they think was gonna happen?
Why am I supposed to sympathize with that?
sara gonzales
Maybe he was done with the marriage.
alex stein
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Why is he taking her to the Dominican Republic?
sara gonzales
Oh no!
You can't get back in!
brett dasovic
Now that's a movie pitch right there.
alex stein
I know, they're going on a damn carnival cruise trip to the Dominican Republic.
That seems like the wrong time to go.
Unless he wanted to get stuff.
sara gonzales
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah, I have a hard time feeling bad for that.
tim pool
Alright, silent.
Vitruvian says, y'all need to play the video game Soma.
Transferring consciousness means making a copy.
And the original dies or is left behind.
alex stein
Isn't that what they take in Brave New World?
tim pool
That's Star Trek.
That's Star Trek.
alex stein
They take so much Star Trek too?
tim pool
No, no, no.
In Star Trek, the lore of Star Trek is that when you get beamed up, they vaporize you and create a new version of you that's different.
alex stein
Every time you get beamed up?
tim pool
Every time.
Every time.
alex stein
Oh, I didn't realize that.
tim pool
There's an episode of The Next Generation where they get a distress signal from some planet when they go there.
The distress signal is from Lieutenant Riker.
And, of course, Commander Riker is second in command of the ship.
And then there are two Jonathan Frakes characters being like, what?
What happened was, when they were beaming him up back when he was a lieutenant, interference caused the beam to split.
And so it rematerialized him on the planet and in the ship, creating two copies of the same person.
Because the lore of it is, it breaks you apart and then reconstructs you somewhere else.
alex stein
So in the middle of the transmission, that's why there's two of them?
tim pool
It bounced that transition back and then reconstituted both of them.
And now there's two of them in the Star Trek lore.
There are two Rikers.
Because the lore is, you die.
alex stein
I know George Takei is a flaming homosexual that I hate to watch on Twitter.
But I love homosexuals.
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
So I'm very pro-game.
tim pool
The truth A says, Pearl is not red pill.
She's a grifter.
Red pill men who believe that you should focus on yourself, your health, and your passions can see through her lies.
She preys on men who hate women.
sara gonzales
Yeah, that's the saddest part about it is that it's all these vulnerable men who are very angry and a lot of times rightfully so.
And she's capitalizing off of that and just perpetuating it and making it worse rather than trying to help solve the problem.
phil labonte
Very grifty.
sara gonzales
Very grifty.
tim pool
Yeah, I feel like, you know, she came on and we did a debate.
She says things like, how come conservative women do this thing?
I say, what should they do?
And she goes, I'm not talking about anything.
And I'm like, what?
Then what are you complaining about?
If you don't believe there's a thing they should be doing, what are you complaining about?
sara gonzales
Also, just kind of pro tip, I wouldn't take relationship advice from someone who has never been married, as far as I know, don't have any prospects.
alex stein
She has a boyfriend who's Dominican, I think.
sara gonzales
She started dating five seconds ago, so I'm just saying like...
tim pool
If you need relationship advice, you want to go to someone like Harry Sisson because he's getting all the girls.
alex stein
He's got like a whole stable.
tim pool
Did I stutter, Alex?
alex stein
No, you didn't.
You're very clear.
I agree.
sara gonzales
Matt and Alyssa Walsh, happy marriage, lots of kids, doing everything right.
I think I'm going to trust them rather than the grifter.
alex stein
You know, real quick though.
Actually, this is my last argument of the night.
We're going to sit here.
Yeah, I think so, because we're almost out of time.
Oh, grifter this, grifter that.
Okay, first of all, aren't we all grifting?
Aren't we all trying to make a living?
No. Aren't we all trying to get engaged?
sara gonzales
Grifting isn't trying to make money.
That's not what grifting is.
tim pool
No, I disagree.
That's what grifting is.
sara gonzales
No, grifting is trying to make money off of something by pretending.
tim pool
Yeah, you try to make money.
sara gonzales
Right, but by pretending...
tim pool
Oh, you mean it's not solely...
sara gonzales
Yes, correct.
Yes, obviously you're trying to make money, but it's more to it than that.
It's not just, I'm trying to make money.
brett dasovic
It is one of the hardest...
It should have the highest level of...
You should have the hardest time trying to prove that, because what you're saying is that you're saying something to make money, but it's not what you actually believe.
alex stein
I'm pro-grifting!
brett dasovic
It is impossible for me or you to know it's in someone else's heart.
Now, you can base it on whether you think that their logic doesn't hold up and they say one thing one day and one thing another day, but grifter has become a catch-all term to say, I don't like this guy, therefore he's a grifter.
I don't like his opinion, therefore he's a grifter.
Because in their mind, everybody who doesn't think like them is that, and that's untenable.
tim pool
I can't go to the casino with you.
alex stein
Why? Because I'm a grifter?
tim pool
Because I'm a dad now.
alex stein
Shut up, dude.
Are you kidding?
My dad lived at the casino.
tim pool
I got a wife with a baby.
alex stein
So what?
What are you going to do with a baby?
tim pool
What if a bear shows up right now?
alex stein
Oh, a bear is going to show up.
We had this conversation earlier.
We had this conversation earlier.
sara gonzales
You know what he said?
He said, well, what am I going to do at home with a bear?
What am I going to do with a newborn?
alex stein
What are you going to do with a baby?
You're just going to look at your phone.
Oh, the baby's fine.
The baby's fine.
tim pool
What if a bear shows up?
You act like something's going to happen to the baby.
brett dasovic
I've been reliably told that women want to be left alone in the woods with the bear anyway.
alex stein
Yeah. The bear is sleeping with Trump.
tim pool
You know, I go out and party with Alex.
You know, here I am.
The bear shows up.
And then, you know, my wife is sitting there with the baby saying...
alex stein
Thank God it's not Trump.
brett dasovic
She's like, I didn't choose the bear anyways.
tim pool
She's going to say, where's my husband to save me from this bear?
You know, and then I'm going to come back and the bear is sleeping in my bed.
And she's going to be like, the bear was here for me and you weren't.
alex stein
Listen. That bear, if the bear wanted to raise the baby while you could go to the casino, let the bear babysit a little bit.
I mean, I don't know why.
brett dasovic
Bear besit.
alex stein
Yeah, bear besit.
So, let's just, come on.
phil labonte
Great idea.
alex stein
Let's not be a, oh, I'm a dad now, I have to act all proper.
No, there's bad dads.
phil labonte
There's a bad dad.
tim pool
You can be one.
Yes, I should choose to not be there for my wife and daughter and go gambling instead.
alex stein
Yeah, 100%.
unidentified
A lot of dads are doing, there's dads doing that right now, okay?
alex stein
Those are the dads that I respect.
You know what I mean?
brett dasovic
He's saying the world needs good dads and bad dads.
alex stein
It needs both.
I said it needs liberals and conservatives.
sara gonzales
How would we know what the good dads were without them?
brett dasovic
Exactly right!
unidentified
If we didn't have bad dads like Tim Poole, we wouldn't know the good dads like mine.
alex stein
So, thank God for people like Tim Poole that will just turn from his family.
brett dasovic
It's all about putting things into perspective.
tim pool
I'm gonna go...
After the show, lay in bed with my wife and watch School Spirits on Paramount+.
alex stein
See, that's gay.
We're not doing that.
phil labonte
He's with his wife, Alex.
He can't be gay.
brett dasovic
Alex, bring the baby.
Bring the baby to the casino.
tim pool
No, no, hold on.
I've checkmated pro-lifers.
When a woman is pregnant, she can bring the baby into the casino.
But as soon as the baby, like literally, a woman is nine months pregnant.
She walks in the casino.
Baby's right there.
She's gambling.
Then she walks outside.
Uh-oh, the baby's coming.
She goes and gives birth, comes back and says, you can't bring the thing in here.
alex stein
That proves that the baby inside is not a human.
tim pool
That's right, because it's an object that's allowed to be brought into the casino.
alex stein
Ah, man.
brett dasovic
What's going to happen is a pregnant woman is going to win a jackpot at a casino, and then she's going to have the baby in there, and then they're going to keep the money and say, you violated policy.
tim pool
Maybe, or she's going to be playing at a slot machine, and then she's going to go into labor, and the baby's going to come out, and the baby's going to hit the button.
And win the jackpot.
They're going to be like...
You can't.
alex stein
Baby's not 21!
tim pool
But then, the lawyer's going to say, Your Honor, the umbilical cord was still attached.
It was one being that did this.
And they're going to win against that precedent.
alex stein
I like it.
tim pool
All right, everybody, smash the like button.
Share the show with everyone you know.
Warn them about Alex Stein.
It's a good show, but they'll need a disclaimer.
alex stein
They'll need a lot of disclaimers after this episode.
tim pool
You can buy Casper Coffee.
You can follow me on X and Instagram at TimCast.
Alex, do you want to shout anything out?
alex stein
Guys, I'll be at the Grifties next weekend in Newark, New Jersey.
Or actually, Morris Plains, New Jersey.
And I think my arch nemesis, Milo, is going to be there.
And yeah, so that'll be interesting.
So come on out.
tim pool
I'll help Milo get his cat, bro.
alex stein
I know.
You know, it's funny because honestly- I know you're a cat guy.
Well, I love cats.
You know that.
And Milo and I have some heat.
He is Mara's nemesis and he is flaming homosexual.
But what I'm saying is I really feel bad.
I hope his cat comes back.
But Milo posted like 20 videos of him always walking around with this cat with no leash.
tim pool
Outside? Yeah, all the time.
Is that what happened?
alex stein
I think so.
So I'm just saying, Milo, listen, but even though we don't like each other, I don't care.
I want to help the cat.
unidentified
I want the cat back.
tim pool
I put up $10,000 to help him get his cat back.
alex stein
But it's like, dude, you take these cats outside, these cats have a mind of their own.
You can't, you know, it's just, I hate it for them.
I hate it.
sara gonzales
Me too.
alex stein
I hope the cat comes back.
tim pool
It's a big reward, $25,000.
alex stein
I think the cat will come back if it's not eaten.
I just think it's probably hiding right now.
sara gonzales
Let's hope there aren't any Haitians around.
alex stein
And Trump deported the Haitians, so now the cat has more of a likelihood of living.
tim pool
Do you want to shout anything out, Sarah?
sara gonzales
Yeah, follow me on YouTube, Sarah Gonzalez Unfiltered.
And we have a makeup line exclusively for women.
You will never see us use a man or a trans to advertise American beauty.
BuySara.com.
You can also get this jacket there, by the way.
brett dasovic
Guys, if you want to follow me, I'm on Instagram and Twix at Brett Dasvig.
But what you should do is go over to Pop Culture Crisis on YouTube because Mary made me go see Snow White with Rachel Zegler.
And it was all of these things.
She's a communist princess.
So you should go watch our review.
We spent 28 minutes talking about how awful it was.
So check it out.
tim pool
Did you see it?
brett dasovic
We did.
tim pool
Oh, and it's like...
brett dasovic
It was fine.
tim pool
She meets a dirtbag leftist and his roommates?
brett dasovic
The thing is, depending on how politically inclined you are, you're going to see politics in the movie and it's definitely there.
But if you're just going there with your kids, your kids aren't going to see any of that.
So it depends on how much you want to avoid the Disney propaganda.
tim pool
I would see it if she mercilessly beats the dwarves.
brett dasovic
She doesn't do that.
tim pool
Nah, I don't want to see that.
phil labonte
Hi, I'm Phil that remains on Twix.
I'm Phil that remains official on Instagram.
The band is All That Remains.
New record dropped on January 31st.
It's called Anti-Fragile.
You can check it out on YouTube, Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora, Spotify, and Deezer.
Don't forget the left lane is for crime.
tim pool
We will see you all throughout the weekend with clips from this show, but then we're back Monday.
Thanks for hanging out.
And wait, wait, give me one second.
Give me one second.
We have a new policy here.
Monday, our current scheduled guest is Bradley Devlin.
Carl Benjamin will be here next week.
So, very excited, very excited.
Alright, we're actually going to start announcing our guests so that people can get a heads up and we're going to actually put out promos for it and everything.
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