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tim pool
Donald Trump has just suspended all military aid to Ukraine.
Holy crap, this news is breaking right now.
I'm sure Zelensky really does regret trying to talk over the president of the United States last Friday.
And the weirdest thing out of the whole scandal involving Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine in the White House, in the Oval Office, was that Democrats were defending Ukraine.
It's just the weirdest thing to be like, bro, you don't even know where it is on the map.
Why are you defending it?
They come up with every reason, but there's only one.
They hate Donald Trump.
That's it.
Because Donald Trump and J.D. Vance brought up really good points.
What are we getting for our involvement in this war that you can't win?
You've got no manpower.
You're losing badly.
He had no good answer.
Now I'm seeing, you know, I love the most about this is the liberals, the progressives who, I don't know, only 10 years ago were claiming the military industrial complex is a bad thing.
Now cheering for another hundred billion dollars being sent to Ukraine.
And they they don't know why they can't give a good honest reason.
I've been watching some of these debates from these pro Ukraine war people and they lie about everything.
My favorite is when they're like, if we don't stop Putin in Ukraine, he'll take Poland.
Leningrad is already north of Poland, heavily, heavily militarized.
Plus, Belarus is an ally of Russia.
They're lying.
I'm going to rant if I keep going.
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Then, ladies and gentlemen.
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We've got European nations pledging to deploy troops into Ukraine.
If there is a deal, which makes literally no sense, they're just saying we're getting our troops ready.
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We're having fun hanging out with Viva earlier, and we were fingerboarding, as we often do.
It's right, he was learning.
viva frei
It sounds very, very gross.
Would you say fingerboarding?
Yes, Tim is very talented with his fingers.
tim pool
Indeed I am.
Oh, that was dirty.
phil labonte
Family show, Viva.
Family.
tim pool
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We'll keep that to the not so family friendly portion.
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Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more, we got Viva Fry.
Or is it Frey?
viva frei
Viva Fry.
Last game, Fryheit.
Yeah, we were joking around that it started off as a very quiet news day and then within the 30 minutes of the green room, a few stories blew up.
The video of Amarath, though, it's of the incident, not of her OnlyFans, right?
So that would be for the after-after party?
tim pool
Yes.
viva frei
Bada bing, bada boom, I'm out of here.
tim pool
You can leave now.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Who are you?
What do you do?
viva frei
David Frye, former litigator, turned current Florida rumbler.
Got the podcast Viva Frye.
A great locals community.
VivaBarnesLaw.locals.com.
Daily podcast at 1230. Car vlogs where I get into my car and rant and rave about what's going on in the world.
And that about sums it up.
tim pool
Right on.
Thanks for hanging out.
Shane's here.
shane cashman
Hey there.
I am the host of Inverted World Live.
Last night, I talked to a lady who claimed to be abducted by aliens at the age of five, and they took her soul, Phil.
And then at the hour and a half mark, Andrew Cuomo called in to talk about his run for mayor in New York City.
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We're on YouTube and Rumble every Sunday at 6 o'clock.
How are you?
phil labonte
What did they do with her soul?
shane cashman
They took it and gave it to someone else and gave her a new one.
phil labonte
Oh.
shane cashman
According to her.
phil labonte
So wouldn't that make you a different person?
shane cashman
Totally different person.
Yeah, we talked about that.
phil labonte
Good, good to know.
I'm Phil Labonte, the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains.
I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary.
Let's go.
tim pool
Ladies and gentlemen, from the post-millennial, Donald Trump, I would like to say thank you, Mr. President.
This is exactly what I voted for, and that is not a joke nor an understatement.
President Trump pauses all military aid to Ukraine.
The pause will continue until Trump determines the Ukrainians show a commitment of good faith peace negotiations.
This is absolutely incredible news.
I am 100% opposed to our involvement in Ukraine.
It is a lie.
It is illegitimate.
Let me give you some of the news before I rant on this one.
President Trump has stopped all military aid to Ukraine following last week's clash with Vladimir Zelensky.
The pause will continue until they show good faith.
The move comes after Zelensky said the end of the war with Russia was still very, very far away.
For the New York Post, Zelensky left the White House at 1.42 p.m.
A scheduled press conference that was set to take place between the two leaders later Thursday was canceled.
The two leaders had been set to sign a rare earth minerals deal Friday.
The deal was not signed.
Trump wrote following the meeting, with a very meaningful meeting in the White House today, much was learned that could never be understood without conversation under such fire and pressure.
It's amazing what comes out through emotion, and I've determined that President Zelensky is not ready for peace if America is involved, because he feels our involvement gives him a big advantage in negotiations.
I don't want advantage.
I want peace.
He disrespected the United States of America in its cherished Oval Office.
He can come back when he is ready for peace.
Standing Obey!
Bravo!
I am so impressed by Donald Trump's leadership on this one.
I'd have done the exact same thing myself.
You come to me and ask me for...
The analogy I made, you know, this morning on my morning show is, your cat is dying, and so you come to me and tell me, I have to spend the money to save your cat's life.
And it's like, okay, well, I would like to.
I don't want to see your cat get sick.
And then you start interrupting me, talking over me, insulting me, telling me it's my problem, and I'm going to be like, get out of my house.
And this is exactly what Trump did, and this is the message that needs to be sent to people of the world.
No more handouts.
viva frei
He shows up.
I won't say he's dressed like a bum, but Trump made the joke, oh, you dressed up for the meeting, and I couldn't tell if it was tongue-in-cheek because he's wearing a long-sleeve camo fatigue and not a short-sleeve.
shows up wearing his costume that he's been playing this character for the longest time and then at one point during that meeting the the clip that went viral with jd vance where he says like you guys don't feel the russian pressure because you have a big beautiful ocean but you'll feel the pressure if you stop supporting us i didn't just listen to that and hear it as an insult i heard it as a direct threat that and then i didn't piece it together like we're forgetting that how many months ago did that nutcase uh ruth try to uh take out president trump they had one of months yeah
they had a a ukrainian zealot Who tried to take Trump out, and though the rest of us have forgotten about it, obviously Trump did not.
And so, it's about time.
I love the idea that he's going to say, you're not ready for peace yet, so we're going to stop all military support.
That will butter you up for peace real fast.
tim pool
This is the thing.
Zelensky, and Trump is right, Zelensky's attitude is, if the U.S. does a deal, then we have leverage.
And Trump is like, no, no, no, no.
The deal is not about you, Zelensky.
The deal is us saying, no more war.
But Zelensky is trying to leverage U.S. involvement to maintain conflict with Putin and with Russia.
For which, why are we involved?
A gas deal, largely.
And, man, there was a – on the Will Cain show today, he had a couple individuals.
He had Sean Davis and another guy.
And they were talking about why this fighting is happening.
And I forgot who the other guy was, so forgive me, because it's important.
His points were awful.
He said, Putin doesn't care about NATO. Finland joins.
He doesn't care about NATO. And Sean Davis says, no, he cares about which country joins NATO. And Ukraine joining NATO would cut Russia off from Crimea and the Black Sea Fleet, where they transport goods to the Mediterranean and through the Red Sea and through the Sinai Peninsula.
I'm sorry, the Sinai Canal.
Into the Arabian Sea and all these things.
That would cut off Russia from half the world.
So Russia was not going to let that happen.
The other guy responds with, Ukraine's no threat to Russia.
And it's like, they have no answer.
They have no answer.
We shouldn't be involved in this.
This is just NATO expansionism.
And it's a major...
It makes no sense.
But let me tell you.
I'll say one more thing.
Because I know I'm ranting on this.
Foreign policy gets me going.
I said...
I think it was like last year or whatever, that Ukraine is an enemy of this country.
And boy, did the Democrats just start vomiting on themselves, playing this clip over and over again, saying Tim Pool works for Russia, blah, blah, blah.
I stand by exactly what I said, and I will say it again.
Ukraine is an enemy of this country, and I'll tell you exactly why.
Germany charged a Ukrainian individual with bombing the Nord Stream pipeline.
That was blamed on Russia.
They blew up their own pipeline.
As long as nobody knew who it was, that...
Bombing.
Should it have actually been a Ukrainian?
And we believe it was.
That's largely what people believe.
Ukraine bombed this.
Or Ukrainian individuals in the direction of the West or whatever.
That's the kind of attack that could escalate us into World War III. Zelensky has made himself clear in these meetings and every meeting that the U.S. will feel pain unless they get what they want.
That is not an ally.
An ally comes to you and says, please, sir.
We beg of you.
Support us.
He says, you got a notion?
You're going to feel the pain.
And then it's Ukraine accused of bombing Nord Stream by Germany?
viva frei
You remember when Ukraine accidentally killed the two Polish farmers, tried to blame it on Russia to invoke Article 5 by saying that a member of NATO now has suffered an attack.
They're trying to get the world into a World War III. That's right.
tim pool
And it was Ukraine that murdered Gonzalo Lira.
Ukraine has not been treating...
This was a Chilean-American journalist murdered by Zelensky's government.
They're accused by Germany.
Germany's not Russia.
Germany is a NATO ally of ours who has charged Ukraine with bombing the Nord Stream pipeline.
Ukraine is trying to force the United States into a war which will kill millions of people.
phil labonte
The whole point of...
And that Zelensky was after when he was in the meeting was to get security guarantees.
And by guarantees, he wants Americans, American military in Ukraine.
And he essentially was getting 90% of what he wanted, right?
He was going to have Americans.
There would have been American businesses in Ukraine with the deal that they were looking for.
And that wasn't good enough for him.
He wanted to have, like, guarantees.
Not assurances, guarantees.
I guess there's...
The language matters a little bit.
If you have security assurances, it's one thing.
If you have a security guarantee, there are certain other things that are expected when it comes to international law.
And so he was looking to get the United States to say, okay, we'll give you guarantees.
And it was bad form to do it in the Oval Office in front of the press.
You do those kind of negotiations.
Behind closed doors, so you can swear at each other, you can get mad, you can do the kind of things that happened in public, and you can do it without the repercussions of having the press watch.
shane cashman
He's an actor.
phil labonte
He is, yes.
shane cashman
Look at his body language in this picture.
He knows what he's selling to the public.
phil labonte
Yeah, 100%.
And he was also, I guess he'd been coached by Democrats, which is...
Beyond the pale, the idea that, because Chris Murphy was talking.
tim pool
I heard that he met with Republicans and Democrats.
phil labonte
Okay, so fair enough.
shane cashman
That also could mean nothing.
tim pool
But pro-war Republicans.
shane cashman
Because there's a bunch of rhinos out there, neo-hawks.
tim pool
Pro-war Republicans.
phil labonte
I mean, the whole meeting with Trump was an absolute debacle, and it was not...
Because of Trump or the administration.
Trump was giving him 90% of what he wanted.
This was just supposed to be a grip and rip.
Like, just shake hands, you know, have a little...
Of course Trump is going to go ahead and have a little banter and kind of poop on him because he had done things to endorse Joe Biden and the Biden administration.
So you knew that there was animosity there.
But it was going to be a generally friendly interaction.
Zelensky didn't want it.
tim pool
I wonder how much of what Zelensky did was on purpose, to prolong the war.
We know that there have been attempts at peace deals the whole time, and we know Zelensky is the main obstacle.
He does not want any kind of negotiated resolution.
We hear from Europe with them saying, you know, Ukraine will have a seat at these negotiations, but Ukraine has nothing to do with it.
Ukraine is the battlefield between NATO and Russia.
Russia wants access to Crimea and the Black Sea.
The West wants to control NATO and shut down their Gazprom gas monopoly and their access to the Black Sea so they can control gas prices.
Ukraine is irrelevant here.
I wonder if Zelensky did that all on purpose, knowing it would result in a collapse of peace deals so he can prolong the war.
That's his plan.
Because you have to understand, Zelensky, with the cameras in front of him, knew that if he insulted Donald Trump on camera, Trump would respond publicly because Trump's not going to let that slide.
He's going to say, you insult me on TV, I insult you on TV. I don't think he did it on purpose because I think it brings about the endgame a lot quicker.
viva frei
All the other countries can...
Piss and moan all they want in Canada can say we're going to stay loyal and let's join up with Britain.
They can't do it without America.
I do say Zelensky is going to go down as being like the modern day Yasser Arafat where it's going to become clear that he never wanted an actual peace settlement out of this.
What he asked for by way of the settlement was nukes in NATO, which is exactly what started this conflict in the first place.
But I think now he's in like total self-preservation mode because it's one thing that this war is going to end the way it's going to end.
And then what the heck is he going to do afterwards?
Because he's going to be persona non grata in his own country.
shane cashman
For our sake, I'm glad he did it just because we experienced a national catharsis when J.D. and Trump tag teamed him.
It was amazing.
tim pool
But Democrats have been defending Zelensky.
shane cashman
Yeah, we live in two different realities.
viva frei
Who's the guy that just said, I accused him of sedition, it was a journalist, he says, that's why I stand with Zelensky and against Donald Trump.
Then move to frickin' Ukraine.
These idiots who are pledging their allegiance to Zelensky.
For the decade prior to this war, Ukraine was a known corrupt hellhole.
Its number one export was human trafficking.
It had a Nazi problem that they all knew about for the longest time.
You can still go, they haven't memory hold all of it on Twitter.
And then all of a sudden, you can't talk about this?
tim pool
You know what I think is another big factor here is, you know, Zelensky got that Vogue cover, right?
He was on the cover with his wife or whatever.
You know, when this war ends, he's nobody.
He's nothing.
That's it.
shane cashman
He'll probably sign with CAA, the same place, Biden.
tim pool
I mean, in all seriousness, yeah, he probably will.
But right now, he is enjoying the principal conflict is about him.
And he gets to, you know what it is, man?
You know what I'm thinking?
How much you want to bet Zelensky was like, what do I do after this war?
We're losing.
Ukraine's lost.
Where do I go?
Right?
The Russians are going to come in.
Ukrainian forces are routed.
He'll be removed from power.
Here's what he does.
He insults Donald Trump on TV and argues with him.
And now he's going to have a free press tour among Democrats for life in the United States.
shane cashman
Yeah.
Guaranteed.
tim pool
He's going to say, I stood up to your president because he was wrong.
And they're going to clap and cheer for him for no other reason than they hate Donald Trump.
shane cashman
And that's what the left sees.
Me, I mocked him the other day.
I posted the Time magazine cover of Trump yelling at the little baby who was crying, saying, that's Trump and Zelensky.
And I had friends reach out to me saying, you've lost your humanity.
Like, this is their new George Floyd, where they see Ukraine.
Like, they can't take anyone mocking Zelensky.
And they saw, in this meeting, they saw a hero stand up to a tyrant.
phil labonte
It's really ridiculous, too, because the whole situation is just Donald Trump.
Is doing this, so I'm against it.
There's no thought put into it.
Even people that watch the whole interview, the whole presser or whatever, where it's pretty obvious that it was not Donald Trump being this bad guy, right?
Like, Donald Trump was trying to talk it down the whole 30 minutes, or the first 30, 35 minutes.
And then it escalated at the end.
There are people that, you know, people that I know that are like, oh, it doesn't matter.
It was still Donald Trump's fault.
And it's like, then there are other people that are like explicitly.
Anti-Trump, right?
Clearly, you can look at their history.
I think his name is Richard Hanania.
viva frei
Hanania, yeah.
phil labonte
Hanania.
He's very, very anti-Trump, generally.
But even he had a reasonable, honest take.
He's like, no, you know, after I watched the whole thing, you know, it really was bad form by Zelensky.
Constantine Kissin, also, same thing.
Initially, he had one impression because he saw the two-minute clip, but then after watching the whole thing, he's like, no, you know.
No, this is not how you prove it.
And Constantine...
Is a Ukrainian, I'm pretty sure.
viva frei
Yeah, I think so.
phil labonte
He's either Ukrainian or Russian, and he's very pro-Ukraine, very anti-Russia, and he still was like, look, this was a bad deal, you know?
viva frei
We got into a bit of a fight, but he didn't like some of the things that Robert Barnes had to say about his blind support for Ukraine, but I hadn't heard that he actually took a critical position, so good on him.
But what people are forgetting, A, they're idiots because they think this conflict started in 2022. Period.
Bonafide idiots.
They don't understand when it started.
And they're idiots because they don't understand what is going on here.
It's a money laundering corrupt theft is what it is.
phil labonte
From the United States side.
From the West side.
viva frei
I'd say from the Ukrainian side.
Look at what Zelensky is worth now.
Look at the properties he's been buying up.
Look at...
Who his military leaders have been, what they've been stealing from the monies that have been going out to them.
He says, like, we've only seen $100 billion of the $177 billion that was sent to us, and we don't know where it got stolen.
It's a little bit of both, but it's definitely on their end.
An article in Newsweek from January.
Like, going through the corruption, if they get caught, they get fired.
Meanwhile, everyone in the Ukrainian government is getting rich off of this.
They've always been a corrupt country.
There's no reason to be in there.
Had they been fighting this out among themselves with no, like, big brother helping out the little brother, they would have figured out a solution.
800,000 Ukrainians and Russians ago.
tim pool
They'd have lost instantly.
There's no war.
Russia walks in.
Ukraine, there's no war.
viva frei
Russia did not ever, as far as I'm concerned, want to take over all of Ukraine.
The idea that they want to take over all of Ukraine and then all of Europe.
So 150 million people are going to take over 750 million people.
It was nonsense.
It's about the eastern territories.
Zelensky was elected on a platform to negotiate a resolution with that reneged what he was told by Boris or whoever the hell else said, go and fight this war.
We can all get rich and we can fight a proxy war against Russia.
phil labonte
I think if Russia could have taken...
All of Ukraine, they would have.
I don't think they would have gone into Poland.
I don't think they would have gone after all of Europe.
But I do think that they would have gone after all of Ukraine because of the history that they have and stuff.
But I don't think he was looking to go into Poland.
I don't think that he was looking to go into a NATO country because he doesn't want to fight NATO. That's a suicide.
viva frei
It's mutually assured destruction.
tim pool
If Russia loses the Black Sea, Russia ceases to exist.
That's their access to North Africa, the Mediterranean, and the Sinai Canal.
Is it Sinai Canal, right?
Am I going to say it?
phil labonte
Suez Canal.
tim pool
Suez Canal.
There you go.
viva frei
I thought you were talking about Mount Sinai, so I didn't want to go to Sinai Peninsula.
tim pool
It's the Sinai Peninsula.
Yeah, right.
It's the Suez Canal.
My bad.
My bad.
And that gets them access to the Indian Ocean, etc.
It rips them from that part of the world completely.
So it's a non-starter.
Let's jump to the story from Politico.
More governments pledge to join UK and France in sending peacekeepers to Ukraine.
We're at a crossroads in history, says UK Starmer.
Some European leaders vow to increase defense spending.
Now, this story has been going viral, and it's being framed as though the UK, France, and other countries want to deploy troops right now and ignite World War III. That's not the case.
What they're saying is, in the event of a peace deal, they plan to send troops into Ukraine.
If there is some kind of peace agreement between Russia and Ukraine and the US and the West and whatever, after that, then they'll send in troops, which is they may as well be saying there will never be a peace deal.
You don't say.
Before your peace negotiations to Vladimir Putin, imagine this.
What does Putin want?
We've mentioned he wants the land bridge from the Donbass region, Lohansk, Donetsk, Mariupol, Zaporizhia, etc., going down Ukraine into Crimea so he can secure and defend it and have land access.
Otherwise, there's just one bridge to the east of Crimea.
OK. Crimea is where their Black Sea fleet is based, Sevastopol.
They have a major industrial port.
Russia's not giving that up.
They want land access to secure and defend that territory.
Tell Russia right now.
Here's what we're going to do, Russia.
We want to negotiate peace.
The moment you turn around, we're going to send in troops from NATO. What do you think Putin's going to say?
He's going to say, yeah, yeah, yeah, effing right.
No way!
Russia wants to secure this territory.
Right now it's Russia versus Ukraine.
They may as well have said when France and the UK announced they will deploy troops into Ukraine upon a peace deal, they may as well have just said, don't do a deal with us, Putin.
Don't do a deal to end the war.
Because with this pledge, there is no way Putin's going to agree to a deal.
viva frei
First of all, it's stupid because it's saying he was opposing NATO expansion and then after the peace settlement, you're going to have the very NATO expansion that started this conflict in the first place.
Also, UK and France should be worrying about their own steaming hellholes of countries in Europe right now and not thinking about...
Send troops into Marseille and send troops into Région, France, and send troops into certain no-go zones in the UK and deal with your sexual assault gangs before you start worrying about securing a peace or starting a war after you've secured a peace.
So, doctor, heal thyself, but it's also stupid.
tim pool
I believe that the moves they made here, like with Boris Johnson...
Their intention is to make it appear as though they want peace while doing everything they can to sabotage it.
That's why Zelensky screams at Trump.
I'm exaggerating.
That's why he interrupts and cuts Trump off and insults and disrespects them.
This is why they're pledging to send in troops.
It basically tells Russia there will be no agreement.
That's what they're saying.
shane cashman
It seems like they're all mobilizing.
It's like a way to stop Trump.
You know, when they all kind of band together to support Trump's perceived enemy.
Because it reminds me of how COVID happened.
They release a bioweapon to stop Trump.
In my opinion, that's what I think happened.
viva frei
I concur with that.
shane cashman
Thank you.
So I think this is just part two of that.
The way they've turned all this into, like you were saying with Ukraine, where the money's going, it's like BLM getting the money and they've got mansions with it, right?
All these people are profiting off of it.
So that's all I see, is just another way to get at Trump.
phil labonte
I mean, I think that there's absolutely...
There are people that are motivated simply by a hatred of Trump.
I do think, I mean, clearly, you know, Putin wants to take land from Ukraine.
The Russians do look at Ukraine.
shane cashman
You gave us a whole history about it.
phil labonte
Yeah, you know, they do look at Ukraine as their territory.
tim pool
Did you see that tweet?
I think it was from Insurrection Barbie.
She said, let me get this straight.
Zelensky is a hero for putting Ukraine first, but Trump is a fascist for putting America first.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
He's got like 30,000 retweets and everyone's like, yep.
shane cashman
That's it.
tim pool
So you've got...
Democrats are like Slava-Ukraine, and they don't care about America.
They don't care about our borders.
They don't care about our economy.
You know what I really love?
Let me show you this.
Let me show you this.
Let me pull up civics.
I love civics data.
National economy, current condition.
Oh, they're so bent out of shape over this one.
Here's the polling for the current economy.
Let's take a look at Democrats.
How do Democrats view the economy right now?
Well, right before Trump got inaugurated, literally, Trump gets elected.
And 50%, 51% say the economy is fairly good.
22% say very good.
Donald Trump is inaugurated.
And then overnights, Democrats think the economy is bad.
viva frei
Well, in fairness, he is doing a lot of cutting some federal jobs.
And a lot of those Democrats are federal employees.
I just got to disagree on one thing.
tim pool
I'm going to agree with that.
But the polling view shifted within one week before Doge for everything.
Democrats immediately just went, the economy is bad now.
viva frei
I don't think Zelensky threw that hissy fit on purpose.
I think he was just actually caught off guard by the change in tenor and tone of the treatment he's getting from the administration.
He's used to having Josh Shapiro signing their bombs for him.
I want to know what Josh Shapiro was writing on those warheads.
It's like a book, right?
Yeah, it was long.
I'll just say, I don't ever think it's appropriate to write messages on bombs.
I mean, they're making light of weapons of war, but setting this aside.
I think he was genuinely caught off guard.
He's used to people Parading him like a hero, bringing him in front of Congress, signing his flag in American government buildings, and then he gets there and he's dressed down, literally, and then...
Not to say physically, but verbally afterwards.
I think he was just seriously caught off guard.
shane cashman
Yeah.
tim pool
He was already dressed out physically of his own doing.
viva frei
He's been showing up in a freaking...
Like a bump.
I'll wear a suit if I ever get an invite to the White House.
tim pool
No, no, no.
Look, I got invited to the White House and I wore this.
I wore my normal thing.
viva frei
Son of a bitch.
shane cashman
That's right.
Were you negotiating a peace deal?
tim pool
So they had the White House Social Media Summit.
I was the only one not wearing a suit.
And my attitude very much was what makes America great is that we are not beholden to wear suits when we go into public institutions.
This is a country where a homeless man can look to the most powerful politician and tell him to go screw himself.
Whereas in a lot of countries you can't do this, namely like Thailand with the last major state laws.
That being said, when I was invited to meet the president, I went and bought a suit.
I'm going to meet the president.
I actually went.
I kept the beanie.
But that was only because I was in Palm Beach.
And they were like, look, Donald, the president is here.
He's got a bunch of people here.
If you want to meet him, you got to wear a suit.
That's how we do it.
I said, you got it.
We ran.
We bought a suit.
Showed up.
There's a picture of me wearing a suit.
And they told me, actually, the beanies do go with the suits.
Did you not?
And then the only other time, the most dressed up I've ever been is my wedding.
I wore a suit with no beanie.
unidentified
Nice.
Look at that.
tim pool
That's right.
The president, Mr. President, with all due respect, I appreciate your work, but I'm going to wear the beanie.
That being said, I'm kidding.
Largely.
But the reason why Zelensky dressing down was so offensive is that when he went to the World Economic Forum, he wore a suit.
shane cashman
You don't think it's endearing that a tyrant dresses like Adam Sandler?
viva frei
You realize it's branding.
You realize he's been branded, sold, packaged, marketed to the American people, and so many have bought into this.
Oh, he's such a rugged warrior.
Dude, you wear a freaking suit.
People comparing him to Elon.
Oh, Elon wears a baseball.
Elon is not the president of a foreign country coming to do international geopolitics.
He's a doge, and everybody knows that.
tim pool
So everybody knows that I'm like a very anti-suit, kind of slovenly guy.
When we were told by...
People who worked with Trump, like friends of ours who work in the Republican Party.
Trump is here.
There's a bunch of senators and prominent individuals.
You can come.
You must wear a suit.
I said, yes, sir.
And we went by one.
Zelensky doesn't.
viva frei
He had two buttons at least.
So it was two steps up from his short shorts.
tim pool
I believe it was a reporter who called him out.
Was it a reporter?
There's a video.
shane cashman
Did Vance not say something?
viva frei
The one I heard was Trump making the joke not once but twice.
Thanks for dressing up.
I didn't hear anybody in the presser.
He's doing it on purpose, and it had worked.
He had gotten praise for it.
He'd gotten on the cover of magazines.
And now it's like, Dad's home.
It's none of this idolatry crap.
You better answer for what we're getting for the amount that we've spent.
You better account for where it's gone.
And he can't.
He won't, because he's been pocketing a good portion of it.
tim pool
It is a fact that...
So let's debunk a bunch of liberal Democrat lies about this.
The first is the money is not actually going to Ukraine.
The money is used to manufacture weapons.
We then send old weapons to them to use.
Basically, we're using this to pump up our military and strengthen it and then sending them the weapons.
Let me just stress, excellent technically the truth.
We are still giving our military weapons, expertise, special forces, intelligence to Ukraine, and we still spend money on it.
I don't want the U.S. government to spend money on the military-industrial complex.
I don't know why Democrats are advocating for that.
But the other thing that needs to be brought up, direct funds were sent to Ukrainian companies from the United States for the purpose of building fortifications.
When the war broke out near Bryansk and Kursk, I think it was, Russians were invading from the Northeast, and lo and behold, Ukrainian forces were shocked to find none of the fortifications were actually built.
The companies that were taking the money to build fortifications were fake shell companies that were stealing the U.S. dollars.
And that is Ukraine under Zelensky's watch.
That is a fact.
They try every which way to make up some stupid reason why Democrats...
The United States are actually in the right to defend.
My favorite is they say an agreement was made that if Ukraine gave up its weapons, the United States would defend it in the event Russia invaded.
First thing I say to that is, I'm a Ron Paul guy, one generation cannot promise the next generation.
You can't do that.
More importantly, however, the other agreement that was made was after the fall of East Germany.
It was the United States that said NATO will not expand one inch eastward.
So the argument that we now have to come to the defense of Ukraine because Russia has invaded an agreement despite the fact that we None of these were treaties.
It was like a memo saying, okay, in the event.
And then you have the word.
So I get someone tweeting at me saying, your country, what you're saying is, your country is untrustworthy because you won't defend Ukraine.
I'm like, well, I don't know.
I think the expansion of NATO was untrustworthy too, which then instigates and escalates the conflict.
And now you're telling us we have to go and fight because NATO wanted to be in Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Ukraine?
I'm not here for that.
shane cashman
We've found a lot of treaties that we don't hold up to.
We don't use biological weapons anymore, but we still do.
tim pool
Look, the white phosphorus.
shane cashman
It's weird.
phil labonte
The Budapest Agreement wasn't a treaty.
It wasn't ratified by the Senate.
It wasn't an actual treaty.
It doesn't have the force of a treaty.
And in the Budapest Agreement, the agreement is that NATO... Like, will intervene.
And it's not saying that the United States alone is going to make sure that there's no aggression against Ukraine.
It was an agreement that I believe it said either NATO or the UN. I forget because I don't have it in front of me.
But it wasn't a guarantee of, like, the same type of guarantee that Article 5 of the NATO charter is.
That's why we don't want...
I think it's mostly Donald Trump, But also I think a part of it is the fact that they're so pro-establishment because they really did have control of the government.
They had control of the bureaucracy, all the USAID money, all the money that went to progressive NGOs and all the money that went to progressive policies that had been sent overseas.
All of that money went through USAID and stuff.
That was something that the progressives don't want to stop because that's part of why they were so influential, not just in the United States but globally.
So they don't want that to stop.
So that's part of why they're so pro-bureaucracy.
This is the left that used to be anti-government and supposed to be against the man, etc.
Once they became the man...
shane cashman
Yeah, I mean, the thing is, it was all a lie.
phil labonte
It was all BS. And the moral center.
That's true.
But they were in a position of power, and just like any other group, they'll say that they're not, which is the Democrats' line.
They've been saying that they're for the working class and stuff for ages and ages, all while...
They've literally owned all the impactful billionaires except for a very few handful.
viva frei
Of course.
Everyone loves freedom of speech until they're the ones in positions of power and others are using that freedom of speech to attack their position of power.
The disloyal thing that NATO and the West might have done was overthrowing the president back in 2014 in the Maidan revolution.
The other thing, when you understand what...
They're doing with these new additions.
I think Finland was the second to most recent addition before Sweden to NATO. They're using Finland as a depot for arms.
They're using it as a military prostitute to just store weapons.
And they do it knowing exactly what the reaction is going to be and it exactly justifies specifically why NATO should not be expanding and why it is an act of aggression against Russia.
tim pool
And I encourage everybody out there who is unfamiliar with These territories where these countries are.
Look up Kaliningrad, okay?
Kaliningrad.
Take a look at a map of Europe.
Look at Poland.
Easy to find.
It's pretty big.
Look right to the north.
Hey, what's that?
There's a Russian oblast right there.
What's that doing?
So when they argue that once Russia takes Ukraine, they'll invade Poland, it's like Russia already has access to Poland and Lithuania in the deeply and heavily militarized oblast of Kaliningrad.
Not that it's...
The own, like, it's the best military position, but they have access to the Baltic as well.
So the one thing you would fear is not Ukraine and Poland.
Belarus has already allowed Russia to bring nuclear weapons in and bring in troops.
Belarus is there's a very small border barrier between Belarus and Kaliningrad.
So if Russia was going to move in, they'd bring a bunch of troops into Belarus, probably move through Lithuania into Kaliningrad to create a corridor which they could transport troops and then have access to the Baltic.
So these arguments, they're all nonsense.
They're lying.
The West, we want to shut Russia out.
That's why all the Democrats and liberals and pro-war Republicans have been arguing that...
Every Ukrainian that fights a Russian is – they're saying if Ukraine fights Russia, we won't have to.
Basically, the people of Ukraine are cannon fodder to chuck at Russia to weaken them.
viva frei
It was Tim Scott who said it during one of the presidential debates.
We don't have to put any boots on the soil.
We don't have to spill any American blood.
It's a great deal for America.
It really irritated me when I heard it.
I'm like, that's the most disgusting thing you can possibly say, is they're using other people's children to weaken the Russian military infrastructure, and that's exactly what they're doing.
That was the plan all along.
Just throw in as many Ukrainian soldiers as you can.
If it weakens Russia, all the better, and it's none of our blood, so good for us.
tim pool
This is another really big story.
We're going to jump to this story.
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And let's grab this story from the Post Millennial.
Head of New York FBI field office resigns after DOJ says office hid Epstein documents.
Quote, late Friday I was informed that I needed to put my retirement papers in today, which I just did.
So this was tough.
Before Trump froze all aid to Ukraine, we were like, yo, we got a huge breaking story.
The head of the FBI field office has resigned.
The story last week was that Pam Bondi was informed by a whistleblower that the New York field office was sitting on thousands of documents related to the Epstein case and evidence and withheld that from the attorney general so that they could not be released to the public covering up Epstein, as it were.
Now the dude's being forced to resign, of course, within like 20 minutes of us being like, it's a big story, Trump freezes aid to Ukraine, and we're like, whoa!
What's going on?
So this is also a massive story.
I don't know what involvement this guy had, but many people have pointed out that the Southern District of New York Attorney's Office and the FBI field office have been 100% anti-Trump, targeting him, targeting his lawyers, his personnel, and saying, quote, dig in.
So now that we're seeing that he's being forced out, one would wonder, why are they withholding Epstein documents?
I believe they are.
I don't trust this New York branch.
Let me read a little bit of this.
There's a bit of context here.
Top FBI official in New York was forced to resign.
James Denny, a Marine Corps veteran who joined the FBI following September 11th, informed colleagues.
Late Friday, I was informed I needed to put in my retirement papers, which I just did.
I was not given a reason for this decision.
In the letter, he expressed regret over the sudden nature of his resignation and praised his co-workers as an office of professionals who will always do the right thing for the right reasons.
Yeah, that's code, right?
His exit is the...
I mean, that sounds like code right there, right away.
They would always do the right thing for the right reasons.
viva frei
By that rationale, the wrong things become the right things if it's done for the right reasons.
tim pool
In fact, the question I have to that quote, which is interesting in his letter, is...
Why would law enforcement, obliged to operate within the law, need to do the right thing for the right reasons?
Is there an implication?
The implication is one of two things.
Other FBI officers are deeply corrupt, but only his is not, or he expects them to act out of line with what the FBI is charged with doing for what they perceive as, as you said, Viva, the right thing, doing the wrong thing, as it were.
Today we find ourselves in the middle of a battle of our own as good people are being walked out of the FBI and others are being targeted.
Because they did their jobs in accordance with the law and FBI policy.
The release of the Epstein files did not go as planned last week.
Oh boy.
Certainly not.
So we still have not gotten anything.
It's been a weekend.
We have no Epstein documents.
Have there been any updates?
I haven't heard anything at all.
viva frei
I heard, well apparently from our chat last night, I don't know what day it is anymore, on our Sunday show, Alex Jones had been reporting that they were seen taking boxes out of the SDNY field office of the FBI. I heard those rumors.
And everybody who doesn't know that the SDNY is the second most, if not tied for the first most corrupt district in America.
The other most corrupt judicial DOJ district would be D.C.
My concern is I don't think they're necessarily not disclosing anything.
I don't think the documents exist anymore in the possession of that field office.
And I think they're probably with whoever was doing the extortion scheme from the beginning.
So you might never see them.
tim pool
You guys really expect me to believe that.
Trump got elected and the New York field office said, let's just put our feet in his boxes and hold them for a little while and see what happens.
Nah.
If they had documents, which I doubt they kept this long, the moment Trump got elected, they were like, where's the incinerator?
shane cashman
Can I tell a little story?
Can I tell a little story?
I'm going to preface it by saying I don't believe in coincidences.
So I was a furniture mover for 10 years in the town of Chester, New York.
And one morning on the way to work...
At the diner, there were pictures of four missing men, Mexican men.
I was like, that's crazy for four men to go missing.
They were abducted by a guy named Nicholas Tartaglione, okay?
Four were calm.
Turns out some drug deal gone wrong.
He killed them, buried them on a pig farm in New York.
Remember, that's Chester, New York, okay?
Nicholas ends up going to federal prison.
He's given a cell phone one day when he's put into a new jail cell.
His cellmate was Jeffrey Epstein.
After he got that cell phone randomly, he beat up, supposedly, Jeffrey Epstein, right?
And Epstein was moved into that new place where whatever happened, happened.
Yeah, very, very bizarre.
James Dennehy, this guy up here, is from Chester, New York.
That's just a very odd connection.
New York is a very big place, and Chester is a very small place.
And just the odds are...
Oh, I'm saying.
I don't know about that.
Maybe there's a connection there.
Maybe I'm undiagnosed schizophrenic.
But I think Nicholas Tartaglione needs to be looked at and kept safe by Kash Patel.
He's been moved from prisons secretly.
My friend Jessica House and Habit Substack is one of the only journalists actually talking to him.
They tried taking his life recently.
tim pool
This is the guy that is believed was trying to kill Epstein for a time.
shane cashman
That's what they say.
He says it's not the story.
viva frei
The super muscular guy.
shane cashman
The jacked guy who became a drug dealer after being a cop in New York.
That guy, I think, knows something.
And the Chester connection is weird to me.
The federal prison Epstein connection is obviously weird to me.
And he's still out there and they're shuffling him around the country right now.
viva frei
Do we not believe that he was the one who actually Epstein'd Epstein?
shane cashman
He says the story...
Well, no.
Epstein was alone when Epstein supposedly went.
tim pool
I'm sure he was.
shane cashman
Yeah, right.
He was with other people.
But Nicholas was not with him at that point.
viva frei
He was definitely with the person who was killing him.
tim pool
They said Nicholas beat him up.
shane cashman
But Nicholas says that wasn't the case.
tim pool
I mean, look, we're all speculating because we really don't know.
Security guards fell asleep.
The camera broke.
shane cashman
Sure they did.
tim pool
Sure, right?
shane cashman
Yeah.
tim pool
But this guy's placed in a cell with Epstein and Epstein gets beat up.
Come on.
shane cashman
He got a cell phone randomly in one of the most corrupt prisons.
I think it's actually shut down already.
I think that prison, the federal prison.
tim pool
Sounds to me like this guy was sent in to take Epstein's life the first time and screwed up.
unidentified
Yes.
shane cashman
Maybe.
Maybe.
Or they use him as a patsy.
The guards did it.
phil labonte
The guards that fell asleep, are they still alive?
viva frei
They're still alive.
They got demoted or shuffled around.
No, I think the prison is still open.
I think it's where P. Diddy is now.
shane cashman
Oh, is it?
I thought they closed it down.
There was an article from a few years ago that said it was shut down.
viva frei
I'm fairly certain it's where P. Diddy is.
And Tim, it's not guessing.
Epstein did not kill himself.
Period.
It's impossible.
Set aside the coroner who said that his neck injuries were more likely that of pressure compression than from hanging.
Or he's still alive.
That's the other.
tim pool
Yeah, Megyn Kelly said in her show recently, we may soon hear from Epstein himself.
And many people took that to imply she was saying she has reason to believe he's still alive.
I think she's saying there's audio recordings of things that he said because he recorded everything.
shane cashman
He's alive.
tim pool
You think he's alive?
shane cashman
I think he's going to do his spaces with Mario, Narwhal, whatever his name is.
And McAfee.
McAfee's definitely coming back.
In this season, the way things are going, McAfee's coming back.
McAfee actually might be hunting.
tim pool
I disagree because the way things were going into 2020, it was very sci-fi dystopian.
And then with Biden, it was like Veep.
But there was very bad stuff that was happening.
This season is more West Wing.
It's more a serious Trump, cutting the BS, securing things.
This is more of an action thriller presidency.
So maybe, you know, there's like some spies and some stuff, but this looks more like a drama this time around.
Whereas the past, like, last season may have been a comedy.
viva frei
It feels like House of Cards.
All that I have to say is, like, on Friday, I think Pam Bondi was the happiest person on Earth because of the Zelensky incident.
And now, at least, people stopped talking about her at least for 24 hours.
This is seemingly good news in that it might confirm what the story was from last week, which nobody believed.
It will not answer to the fact that...
It was implausible to begin with that Pam Bondi could have believed she had the entire fire.
shane cashman
This will make up.
If there's something here, I think there is.
I think that part of the FBI field office is corrupt.
As the day is long.
I didn't really like the way they rolled out that walk of shame for the influencers.
Not that I'm mad at the influencers.
unidentified
The White House set them up.
shane cashman
We're going to print out binders and let you walk out in front of the...
The whole press.
tim pool
And they could have walked him out any other exit.
shane cashman
There's like three other places.
tim pool
They had him walk out right through where the press was.
phil labonte
The GOP official sign was rickrolling people?
Come on.
Yeah, it's ridiculous.
Come on.
viva frei
Look, I don't want to steal man that which doesn't deserve a steal man, but they might have been making what they thought was a commentary, like, look how the deep state just rickrolled these journalists and the joke got misinterpreted.
But they didn't take it down when every single reply to it was, it's not too late to delete this, and they refused to delete it.
phil labonte
It was a horrible idea to do that.
The rollout was terrible.
It's unfortunate.
It was an unforced error.
It was a terrible idea.
Nobody is happy with that at all.
tim pool
It almost seems like they sabotaged some of these people.
shane cashman
100%.
phil labonte
Yeah.
shane cashman
I'm mad at the White House for doing it.
Whoever at the White House did that.
tim pool
Haya Rychik is getting roasted by left and right because she was doing a little shuffle dance while smiling and laughing with the Epstein binder, which turns out to have nothing in it.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So I'm seeing, like, big, you know, prominent conservatives and liberals.
Like, a bunch of liberals started making fun of her playing the video.
This is libs of TikTok for us that don't know.
I don't care that she did that.
Like, she's walking out and she's waving a binder.
It's no big deal.
But I'm seeing a lot of pro-Trump people being like, this is gross.
phil labonte
Well, the thing, like, Pam Bondi was already, there were a lot of people that were critical of Pam Bondi in the first place because of a red flag law stance and stuff like that.
So she was already, like, people were like, eh, I don't know.
So to do this and have this as...
Happened so early in her tenure, and there's a lot of people that were just like, this is awful, she's bad, blah, blah, blah.
shane cashman
Was Bondi AG of Florida while Epstein does?
viva frei
No, no.
She was AG as of 2011. The plea deal was in 2008, so she had minimal involvement, very little responsibility, if any.
I had Liz Wheeler on Friday.
Her explanation makes everything make sense, where when they were holding that binder with their smiling, what they were, in theory, thought they were doing was just...
Poking, needling the legacy media that was not invited to this meeting.
The meeting was never supposed to be about the Epstein documents to begin with.
Prescheduled.
And so they come on like, haha, you're the old media now.
We're the new media.
And it was not about the blinders.
So I say it's sort of...
tim pool
They also didn't know it was in them because they were told not to open them, wait, they're under embargo.
I do want to stress that despite the embargo, some people leaked it anyway.
Yeah.
viva frei
I was told that they knew that they were told there's no smoking gun in it, but they were under embargo until 3.30.
tim pool
The people that I spoke to said that they were told these are the phase one release, but don't show anything in the binders until after we do our announcement.
And I think what they wanted, they wanted the UK to do the press junket or whatever with Starmer, and they didn't want the Epstein thing to...
Come out with a big splash until after they were done.
I don't necessarily believe that.
What I can say is, it's absolutely hilarious working in this industry, guys.
When I get contacted, of course, Mike Cernovich already said he called me and talked to me.
I'm a big fan.
Mike Cernovich is absolutely fantastic.
And I talked with a couple of other people there, because literally everybody who walked out is a friend of the show, who's been on the show.
And everybody just said the same thing.
You know, I told him, like, look, I've been seeing this letter going around, like, right, right, right, yeah, but you can't share it.
It's under embargo.
And I'm like, you got it.
So I'll wait.
And then other people just leaked it, because they don't care.
They don't care.
And I'm like, nice guys finish last, man.
viva frei
I also had that letter, and I'm like, I didn't even know if I could disclose that there was an embargo, because I thought that might reveal the fact that there was an embargo.
So I'm like, okay, I'll wait.
I don't care to be first.
I just don't want to.
tim pool
And then it leaked, and you were like.
viva frei
No, I couldn't have cared less.
Everyone will know they can trust me.
No, but my understanding was that they were told in advance, There's nothing new in here, but the breaking story is this letter, which is confirming that the SDNY is withholding information, not cooperating with AG's, Bondi's orders.
tim pool
They may have said that to some of the people, I suppose.
From the people I talked to, they said they were just handed the binders with little or no context.
They didn't know what was happening, and they were told we're going to be releasing more.
And the letter, I believe, was in the front when you open it, basically the letter saying there's more documents coming.
And then...
Upon talking with some people involved, they were like, there is somewhat new information, but it's like, what is new is meaningless.
It's not what we want.
It's not incriminating.
It's not a smoking gun.
viva frei
It's meaningless from the Kalshi market definition of the bet, or the investment, which was, there was no previously unclassified document that was declassified, but what was new was, A.G. Bondi is reprimanding the SDNY for apparently concealing and protecting for a...
tim pool
I don't think we're getting it.
phil labonte
I don't think we're getting it, but I do like this implication that they're going to be firing people.
I mean, I'm in agreement with Tim.
I don't think that they're going to produce anything that makes any kind of significant impact, but I do think...
That this is going to be a great excuse to just get rid of people that are corrupt, get rid of people in the...
shane cashman
If this exposes a web of corruption, that's great.
And I want to say about this guy, I listened to two podcasts he did on the way over.
And he is like a pro-DEI and FBI type of guy.
You read earlier, Tim, about him having this battle against the Trump administration.
And he also did another thing with state troopers in New York talking about booster outreach.
So he's clearly...
A certain type of political persuasion that thinks he's doing the righteous thing.
And so in their mind, what we see as corruption, they see as righteousness.
tim pool
Let's jump to a story about the Internet.
We've got this from the post-millennial far left streamer Hassan Piker suspended from Twitch after calling.
I'm going to be careful with the language on this one.
Hassan Piker basically instructed people to take action that would end the life of a sitting U.S. senator.
phil labonte
Don't do that!
viva frei
It was a metaphor, Tim.
You weren't supposed to take it seriously.
tim pool
He certainly said it.
In fact, I can't even read the statement he made.
And I can't believe how many times this guy has made statements like this.
And people keep saying he was banned from Twitch.
No, no, no.
He was temporarily suspended.
That's it.
Twitch does not care that this dude has advocated on numerous times for direct violence.
This is a crime!
phil labonte
The dude that runs Twitch went on Hasan's stream and sang him happy birthday.
unidentified
No BS. That is legit.
phil labonte
That's in the H3H3 podcast content dump.
viva frei
Before or after any number of these?
phil labonte
Definitely after he said that the United States deserved 9-11.
tim pool
According to 18 U.S.C. 373, anyone who with the intent that another person engage in conduct concerning a felony involving the use of attempted use or threatened use of physical force against another person in violation of U.S. law, solicits, commands, induces, or otherwise endeavors to persuade such a person to engage in such conduct, conduct can be imprisoned for up to half the maximum term.
What is that?
20 years?
Wow.
If the crime solicited is punishable by life, imprisonment, or death, the individual can be imprisoned after 20 years.
Furthermore, 18 U.S.C. 351 specifically addresses the protection of members of Congress, including U.S. senators, making it a federal crime to assault, kidnap, murder these officials.
The statute underscores the seriousness with which the law treats against federal legislators.
I mean, it doesn't need to be a senator.
It's illegal to tell someone to go kill somebody else.
That's crazy.
phil labonte
Arrest him.
Arrest him.
shane cashman
I'm looking forward to him doing a podcast with Taylor Lorenz.
phil labonte
I'm looking forward to him having a podcast from jail.
shane cashman
With Luigi Mangione.
viva frei
There you go.
We were joking before whether or not he's a terrorist sympathizer.
phil labonte
There's no joke about it.
viva frei
No, no, I know.
This is beyond...
They talk about dog whistles, but then you have your so-called moderate terrorists who are the ones that instigate the radicals.
It's nothing shy of this man sitting on his pedestal.
He's very happy with his life, so he doesn't want to ruin his own life by doing something stupid.
But he wouldn't mind if he were to cause someone to tip over the edge by saying what he said.
He knows damn well what it means, how it's going to be heard, what is an instruction to his probably unhinged followers.
He's a very, I'm going to quote Jerry Seinfeld, a very, very bad man.
He's a very, very, very bad man.
unidentified
Period.
shane cashman
Wasn't his show kind of failing?
I remember we did an episode a while back where his numbers were going down.
I don't know.
I've never watched anything this guy does.
I've always been forced to see it on Twitter.
phil labonte
He's been covered recently by CNN and by Slate trying to pump him up because the left is looking for the left's Joe Rogan.
But the problem is all the famous streamers on the left are literal communists that endorse terrorism.
Hasan has literally had Houthi pirates on.
He had a translator, and there's a dude that's a Houthi pirate, and he's sitting there glazing the guy, saying, like, oh, you know what One Piece is?
Yeah, we think that you're doing what Luffy would do.
Like, I guess that's a character from the manga.
tim pool
That is the character.
phil labonte
Yeah, so he's...
tim pool
Wait, who said that?
unidentified
What?
phil labonte
Hasan said that.
Hasan said to a Houthi pirate that what he's...
He asked if he knows what One Piece is, and the Houthi pirate knows what One Piece is, and Hasan told the translator...
To tell the pirate, tell him that we think he's doing what Luffy would do.
A pirate!
tim pool
For those that don't know, Luffy is a fun-loving, goofy character.
For those that are familiar, similar to Goku or Naruto, for instance.
viva frei
That's not helping me understand what the hell's going on right now.
tim pool
What's a good American equivalent?
He is a doofy, fun-loving adventurer who's trying to find the great treasure left behind by the Pirate King or whatever.
He ate the gum-gum fruit and now he can stretch like Reed Richards or whatever.
I don't know how the Houthi pirates who are blowing up vessels and killing people or anything like that.
What is a One Piece?
One Piece is the treasure.
viva frei
Okay.
tim pool
So, I'm not a big One Piece fan.
I actually rather don't like it.
So, I don't know as much as the average person.
But what I can tell you is, typically, anime characters in these prominent shows, presumably One Piece, but I can speak directly for, like, Naruto and Goku, and Dr. Stone.
Dr. Stone's fantastic, by the way.
Great Magic School Bus show for your kids.
The heroes always convert the enemies to join their team by showing them the error of their ways.
So, really great story writing in Naruto, for instance.
It's a graphic novel.
Man, some really brutal writing.
I won't get into it now because it's just a bit too esoteric, but it's really good writing where the main characters are always like, here's why you are wrong for doing what you did, and then confronting the villains who eventually change because of it.
I'd love to see the Houthi pirates be convinced that what they're doing is wrong.
phil labonte
I mean, I don't know, but I like when bad things happen for Hassan, like getting booted.
I like the H3H3. Content Nuke, which I just tweeted, if you guys are interested in seeing this.
It's an hour and 45 minutes long.
Ethan Klein just disassembles Hassan.
He points out that he's a literal communist, that he endorses violence.
He does it all.
Frequently, he points out that Twitch glazes Hasan all the time.
They love him.
Frogan, which is one of Hasan's moderators, she endorses all the violence, too.
He's anti-Semitic.
He's just the absolute worst.
viva frei
It is.
I mean, the thing is, it's a trend now.
Like, you have Bill Burr.
Doing it with lionizing Luigi Mangione, saying, you know, like, effectively calling people to do terrible things for ideological reasons.
You got Hassan Pike doing it.
There was another guy, I don't know who it was, but saying, you know, like, someone's got to do it to Elon.
Like, they know what they're doing, and it's a strategy.
tim pool
Sam Uriah said, if you Google search Raphael Warnock, parlor threat, this guy basically did the same thing as Hassan and got three years in jail.
Check this out.
So it's not jail, it's prison.
And I Google searched it.
phil labonte
Jail's bad, prison's worse.
tim pool
Nearly three years in prison for threatening Ralph Warnock.
His quote was, dead men can't pass laws.
That's crazy.
viva frei
Exponentially more nuanced than what Hassan Piker said.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
He did say other stuff during January 6th that I understand too, but in reference to threatening Warnock, that was the quote.
viva frei
He certainly picked a bad administration to test these laws with, because now you don't have a friendly Biden-Comme Kamala Harris administration.
phil labonte
This is why I make the argument that we live in a leftist milieu that we are so inundated with leftism that we don't even realize it.
That's why you can do something just center-right, and people will call you a Nazi.
People will say, oh, you're a far-right extremist, because you're like, oh, maybe we should decrease the...
The amount of money we pay in taxes.
That's a far-right extremist.
Because we are so inundated with leftism, and you see it when it comes to the way that courts behave.
People like Luigi Mangione go out and they commit actual murder, and then there are people that just line up looking to praise the guy.
tim pool
So he got really mad at me, and I was kind of surprised he did, because Dexerto tweeted, Hassanabi has been banned on Twitch.
I said, it's a suspension.
They call it banned, but he'll be back on shortly.
It's likely to do with his calling on people to kill a sitting U.S. senator.
He didn't even know Rick Scott was a senator.
WTF? So in the clip of Hassan, he says, if you really cared about, you know, Medicaid fraud or whatever, then he tells people, go do this thing.
And, well, he said, if you care about this, you will do this thing.
And, which I won't repeat.
He then says, you wouldn't then put him into, what is his office?
And then he Googles it.
And I'm like, dude, he didn't even know that Rick Scott was a senator?
He's a senator from Florida.
He left the governorship, brought his hand, just took over.
Like, bro, how are you going to make an argument that he shouldn't be in a position you didn't even know what position it was?
Okay?
I didn't even say that.
But dude got so mad.
So he tweeted.
He tweeted in response to me, Tim Pool loves that Rick Scott was caught overseeing the largest Medicare-Medicaid fraud in U.S. history and will defend the wealthy robbing you blind, just as he'll defend Mike Johnson gutting Medicaid with lies.
He's not independent.
He's a bald partisan hack.
Oh, Hassan, you're crying!
Whoa, look at that emotional reaction.
I didn't say nothing to you, buddy.
Hasan's pissed that he got suspended.
He's very angry.
In response, I said, here is me landing switch and nollie hardflip.
That's a switch hardflip right there.
The nollie hardflip was much cleaner.
Take a look at this one.
Beautiful.
Yeah, nice slow-mo.
That's my response to Hasan.
viva frei
People don't understand how hard this is to do, Tim.
But first, hold on.
Am I wrong?
The internet seems to say that Hasan Piker's net worth is between $4 and $8 million.
tim pool
I'd imagine it's higher.
viva frei
How the hell is he a commie?
If he's the most capitalist commie out there.
shane cashman
He's the same kind of commie that Bernie Sanders is.
viva frei
And if he's, you know, criticizing you for, like, defending the wealthy, dude's freaking wealthy.
I mean, there's nothing wrong with it.
tim pool
Well, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
The point of his tweet, I never defended Rick Scott over this.
I literally just pointed out that he got suspended, not banned, and he didn't know who Rick Scott was.
He then, for some random reason, probably because he's just not a smart guy and he's a grifter liar, he says Tim Pool loves Rick Scott and will defend him.
I never defended Rick Scott.
Literally, bro, all I said was, you likely got suspended because you called on people to do a thing.
That's it.
I never said anything nice about the man.
I don't think I've ever actually talked about Rick Scott other than, oh, he's running for Senate.
shane cashman
I don't trust him because he refuses to use capital letters.
Not even his name.
tim pool
I don't think...
shane cashman
Then he goes out of his way to use lowercase letters.
tim pool
I don't think Hassan could run a mile.
shane cashman
You should...
phil labonte
He's actually...
I think he's lost weight.
He used to be really doughy, and now he's lost weight because, well, it's embarrassing to be that rich and have that much time on your hands.
tim pool
Like he was recently doughy?
phil labonte
He was doughy like a year ago, but he spent some...
He has someone come in and cook him.
shane cashman
He's working out with the pirates.
phil labonte
He's cooking him food and stuff, so, yeah.
But he used to be very doughy, yes.
shane cashman
He's related to...
viva frei
Cenk Uygur.
tim pool
Yeah, his nephew.
phil labonte
Nepotism.
Nebo, baby.
tim pool
One of the things Hassan did is like, dude, homie was melting down.
I said, you crying?
He says, I think I'll be alright, little man.
And I'm like, bro, come on.
Let me tell you guys.
So, in internet trolling, the rules are you never engage in the troll, right?
So, for Hassan to have this emotional of a reaction, that is basically you lose.
You lose, right?
viva frei
He's right about one thing, Tim.
He seems to be 6'3 by the internet, so he is much, much bigger than you.
tim pool
He certainly is.
He certainly is.
I am of average height, but again, I don't think the man could run a mile.
I think he sits in his chair all day and doesn't exercise.
He maybe lifts.
He's got bigger.
That's great.
So, vanity muscles, they call it.
Vanity.
I'm not kidding.
shane cashman
Can we get him out here on the show?
tim pool
I want to see if the dude actually is.
I bet he's not in shape.
I bet he's in miserably poor shape.
shane cashman
Let's get him out here.
tim pool
I mean, look, I'll say this.
Bro, imagine not even knowing who Rick Scott was and making such a psychotic argument against the man.
Like, this is a dude who went on his show and said that you would, if you cared...
And then he calls for people to take this action, which is insane, like the most extreme of actions, and then says, and not put him in a, where is he anyway?
Like the dude could have been in a retirement home for all he knew.
phil labonte
Hassan is...
tim pool
He could have been in jail for all he knew.
phil labonte
Hassan is famously stupid.
He says dumb things all the time, and he comments on things he doesn't know anything about.
I mean, I have disagreements with people like Destiny.
I'm not a fan of Destiny at all, but at least Destiny's not as just mind-numbingly dumb as Hasan is.
Hasan is well-known for being kind of like, they call him the himbo.
shane cashman
This is the first time Phil's ever said anything nice about Destiny.
serge du preez
Just a casual reminder, guys, he was a pickup artist for years.
tim pool
Was he really?
serge du preez
His debut on YouTube was a pickup artist.
phil labonte
That's how he got started, yep.
serge du preez
Just wanted to say that.
Just wanted to quickly drop that there.
phil labonte
Yeah, he talks about, you know, very misogynistic things to get his start.
Because he just wants to be famous, and now it's like, it's cool to be a leftist and blah, blah, blah.
tim pool
I defended Hassan so many times over the Sam Hyde thing, but he's a grifter.
And so when the tweet is he was banned, I say, actually, he wasn't banned.
He was suspended.
His response is to just vomit all over himself.
He doesn't have the ability to control himself.
viva frei
Is it one of the Orwellian permanent suspensions, or is it...
tim pool
No, it's just Twitch says you're banned, and then like a week later, you're unbanned.
phil labonte
Yeah.
viva frei
Just so everybody understands, it wasn't a metaphorical, like when Joe Biden said, lock him up, politically lock him up.
This was sort of like a...
Termination.
tim pool
And San said, if you care about X, you will do Y. Yep.
Which is a direct call to action.
phil labonte
Yep.
viva frei
It's, all things aside, if it were anybody remotely right of center, they'd be in jail by now.
phil labonte
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
And, I mean, it's, again, this is because of the whole leftist melee that we live in.
viva frei
And just before anyone in the chat says, now Viva Frye doesn't support free speech, it never, never covered threats.
Calls to imminent violence against a specific person.
shane cashman
Can I ask real quick?
Because I like that they say these things.
I like when Taylor Lorenz does it.
I like knowing exactly how they feel.
Does he have to put a time stamp on it when this should happen to actually cross that line?
viva frei
No, that has to be identifiable.
It has to be specific.
Does it have to mention at high noon?
Certainly not based on the precedent of the other guy.
tim pool
He said, if you care about X, you will do Y. He's got, what does he get, like 20,000 live viewers on his show?
He gets hundreds of thousands of views.
How many of them are going to go, he's right, I do care about X. Better go do Y. That is a call to action.
That is a call for someone to go commit a crime.
unidentified
Yeah.
shane cashman
I just have a tough time wanting to prosecute it.
I think it's disgusting.
Because the same people could be like, they look at Trump, they hate Trump, and he says, we've got to go fight.
And it's a vague statement.
And you look at those people.
viva frei
It's the difference between saying, I want to kill someone's reputation versus I want to...
Take out the word reputation.
I mean, they're not comparable.
It's not fuzzing the waters here.
tim pool
And Trump said there's going to be a bloodbath in the auto market, and they said Trump threatens violence.
So Trump could literally be like, I'm going to make a bunch of beautiful cupcakes for everybody.
And like, does cupcake mean murder?
Trump said cupcakes, but we know what he really means.
So when Hassan comes out and literally says, hey, you, if you like this, go do that.
Yeah, come on.
I just think it's overt.
shane cashman
They're so bloodthirsty on the left.
They interpret it so differently.
unidentified
So what?
tim pool
Who cares?
shane cashman
Yeah.
tim pool
I don't care if a moron looks at the color, opposed it on the green and goes, I think that's blue.
I don't know.
viva frei
I don't care.
tim pool
Well, you're dumb.
viva frei
There will be hell to pay.
No.
You know, you will suffer.
No.
Go take someone's life.
Yes.
I mean, that's...
tim pool
No, no, no.
Oh, yeah.
Sorry.
viva frei
And that's...
It was the four-letter word for take someone's life.
shane cashman
How do we have that precedent of that guy that we just pulled up with, Warnock?
It was such a vague...
viva frei
Well, there's no question that they've abused and expanded of what qualifies as a direct threat.
It was the Brandenburg case where they said, we're going to go find a specific group of people and kill them.
And that was protected speech.
It wasn't sufficiently specific to an identifiable person.
This was like, it's him.
Do it.
And he would have been very happy had it happened.
shane cashman
And what did Taylor Lorenz say?
viva frei
Hers was a little more nuanced.
I forget what the exact quote for Taylor Lorenz was, not to defend her, but it was a little more nuanced.
tim pool
She said everybody wants this to happen or something like that.
phil labonte
Everybody except for Luigi Mangione is more nuanced than us.
tim pool
No, no, I gotta pause you there because it's actually, I'm not convinced Luigi Mangione is the guy.
phil labonte
Oh, really?
tim pool
Yeah, I mean, on the left, one of the biggest debates, or I should say the left is defending Luigi.
Under the argument, it's not him.
And so the conspiracy that leftists are pushing, conservatives on the right are just like, condemn him, condemn him.
We don't actually know if it's him or not.
All we know is he got arrested.
And I got to tell you, we all ran the show when it first happened.
He does not look like the security footage where the guy's got thin eyebrows and he's got a big unibrow.
And so when we saw the footage, I was like, that's not...
When the first video came out, photo of Luigi Mangione, I said, that doesn't look like the right guy.
And so what happened was, video comes out of the shooting.
Person of interest is identified in a photo.
Everyone tweets the suspect.
I said, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Person of interest is not a suspect.
They've said suspect.
This could be a guy who bumped into him.
You could be getting the wrong guy.
And I said, besides, they don't even look like each other.
Then they claimed it was him and he did it.
On the left, they're saying there's reason to believe it's not actually him.
So I carry that because you don't know what's going to come up in the court case.
viva frei
No, no.
My understanding is that the left is not saying...
He might be innocent because it might not be him.
They're saying he did it and it was justified.
That was sort of my understanding for why the left is saying it was a righteous act.
tim pool
There are many on the left, predominantly, that just say they wear Luigi hats, they say we need Luigi, things like that.
But the right is largely ignoring the story, and only on the left is there a subset that's entertaining that Luigi Mangione is not actually the shooter.
viva frei
I was mildly cynical.
It's Minority Report like orgy of evidence.
They find the guy at a McDonald's.
He's got a backpack with a manifesto.
I can totally understand he might be a mentally unwell individual, easy to frame as the patsy.
And so it's due process and it applies to everybody.
But no, as far as I'm concerned, the people who are defending him on it being a righteous act.
tim pool
Sure, and they're wrong.
unidentified
They're wrong.
tim pool
But I'll tell you, don't forget, when the story first broke...
We, as well as many others, were saying, that's not the guy.
He looks very different.
He's wearing a different coat.
He's wearing a different backpack, a different hood, and he's got bushy eyebrows.
shane cashman
I floated the theory that it was a CIA skin mask and everyone got so mad.
I didn't say the CIA did it.
I said a CIA skin mask, right?
I wasn't saying they were going out and doing it, but you've seen those masks, right?
viva frei
Oh yeah, there was one that went viral.
It's like, absolutely.
shane cashman
There's new ones that aren't even like the old school CIA ones.
Or, like, some fabric.
And they look great, you know?
So I think we don't know.
And I'm looking forward to seeing the evidence.
tim pool
Let's jump to this next story.
We got this one from The Hill.
We're going to give it to our good friend, Bill Maher.
Bill Maher says Democrats will lose every election without a shift on trans issues.
I love how The Hill just really avoids saying what he actually said.
Because Bill Maher does not use the kind of language.
Bill Maher's a bit more crass than that.
But Bill Maher was...
I was having a debate with Pod Save America's John Lovett, and he basically said, I'll give you a quote, you want to lose every election?
Just keep coming down to the side of parents coming in second, and who gets to decide what goes on with my kid contest?
Lovett responded that he was not talking about winning or losing elections.
I agree that there's salience to the issue.
I agree.
This has been weaponized, but I'm just talking about the issue itself.
Bill Maher basically said, If Democrats don't drop the gender ideology stuff, they will never win another election.
He is correct.
But Democrats are a cult, okay?
Guys, can I just give you a simple, okay?
When did Democrats start supporting the military-industrial complex?
phil labonte
When Donald Trump got elected.
tim pool
When Donald Trump got elected.
I don't mean the politicians, because they always did.
But these progressive leftists, like Kyle Kalinske, how is Kyle Kalinske pro-military industrial complex?
This is a guy whose whole career was like, the war machine is bad.
Now he's cheering and bashing his face on the table as hard as he can, screaming Slava Ukrainian.
I'm like, what?
It's a cult.
These people, their brains are jello.
phil labonte
It's just anti-Trump.
shane cashman
They also see the military industrial complex and the government in general as their parents.
tim pool
What I'm saying is, I get that.
There's only one explanation for how someone like Kyle Kalinske, who spends his whole career ragging on the war machine, now all of a sudden in support of it, along with Hassan Piker.
They love Daddy War Machine now because it doesn't matter what the issue is.
It matters that they're adhering to the social orthodoxy.
That's what I call wokeness.
They're just marching in lockstep with whatever the social orthodoxy is, and Kyle Kalinske is now pro-war.
It's psychotic.
I digress.
This is why Democrats will not give up the gender issue.
Despite the fact that it's deeply unpopular, every single poll shows it to be unpopular.
They just, they won't walk away.
shane cashman
For them to give it up, they'd have to accept that they've been abusing kids gleefully.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of people that have made really bad decisions that are going to have to, that are never going to actually say, oh, this is wrong, because to do that would require them doing some self.
Some soul-searching and be like, wow, I really was endorsing the mutilation of children.
I imagine when people realized that a lobotomy was actually a terrible procedure to do, I imagine there were a lot of people that until their dying day were like, no, it was right.
All the lobotomies we did, they needed it.
tim pool
I had a conversation with a friend of mine who was like...
What people need to understand is the average person who's left or right is actually not really either.
They don't really pay attention.
It's funny because the liberals get super angry when I say, I have a bunch of friends who are liberal lefty.
Well, who doesn't?
I mean, I've got family members who are liberal lefty.
We talk all the time.
But I was talking to a friend of mine who is moderately left but not politically active.
So, you know, they're not paying attention to the news or watching anything like this.
They were telling me how they were upset that Trump was suspending these things and they think it's bad if the kid's got to get medical care.
And I just was like, why are we affirming a mental disorder?
The response I got was, it's not a mental disorder.
I was like, no, it's in the DSM-5.
It's a mental disorder.
I didn't make that up.
The diagnostic for standards of medicine, whatever it is, says it's a mental disorder.
But why do we affirm this one and not any of the other ones?
And I got kind of just like...
Kind of a blank stare.
I said, no, for instance, like general body dysmorphia.
Like when someone says, my hand is not my hand, the doctor doesn't cut it off.
viva frei
Well, there was a person who actually found someone to blind them because they said I identify as a blind person.
But anorexia is the...
It's the easiest example to illustrate.
I feel fat.
Oh, you are fat.
You should go throw up some more.
Or that's bulimia.
If someone were anorexic and said, I feel fat, I look in the mirror and I feel fat, you would not affirm that.
tim pool
Or the inverse.
viva frei
You would not legislate the inability of psychiatrists and psychologists to treat that.
You have to affirm their identity that they feel fat.
No, because they're killing themselves.
And in this case, they're mutilating themselves.
tim pool
And I got no response.
And I said that in a good way in that I believe they started to question why they were advocating for affirming what is classified in the DSM-5 as a mental disorder.
I explained, too, the reason it's in there is because the activists want it in there so they can get prescription medicine.
Because if it's removed as a mental disorder and no longer can be, if it can't be a diagnosed mental disorder, then you can't get treatment for it.
So it needs to be in there.
But then we ask the question of, do we affirm PICA? You know what PICA is?
When people eat non-edible objects.
Oh, goodness.
So famously, people eat hair a lot.
shane cashman
There's a guy who ate an airplane once.
tim pool
He ate a whole airplane.
shane cashman
Yeah, I think over time.
tim pool
I saw a magician once eat glass.
I recommended he not do that, but he insisted, and it was a magic trick.
But in all seriousness, there are people who eat coins.
Imagine a person is eating coins, and you're like, hey man, you do you.
It's like, no, we don't.
We say like, hey, that's really bad.
You should stop doing that.
viva frei
Yeah, the hair in particular.
The human body can't digest hair, so there's a number of cases where it grows into abscesses in the body.
It usually accompanies trichotillomania.
What is that?
That is when you compulsively pull out hair.
So people pull them out, then they eat them.
But did you notice, I think they redefined gender dysphoria, and now they've added the, if you are uncomfortable with your body and identifies another, whatever, and it causes discomfort.
So that there can be people that say...
It doesn't cause me discomfort, therefore it's not a diagnosable mental illness.
And I think that was the most recent modification that they added to it.
tim pool
Mental disorder.
unidentified
Cope.
viva frei
What did I call it?
tim pool
Illness.
viva frei
Sorry, sorry.
And I say this as someone who has various mental disorders, some might say.
tim pool
I do think there's a distinction in...
I think mental illness and mental disorders are actually different things.
viva frei
I can understand.
One is a chemical imbalance versus...
tim pool
No idea.
viva frei
I would say schizophrenia, I would call a mental illness.
OCD, I would call a mental disorder.
But I'm not even sure how I define that.
Bottom line, I'm fairly certain they redefined it now so that it's more specific so that it's not gender dysphoria unless it causes discomfort.
And so all that people have to say now is, I'm happy like this, so therefore it's not a mental condition that requires any form of treatment.
Empower me to play sports against women.
phil labonte
I think that it actually goes further than that.
Most of the people that, if I understand correctly, the majority of people that actually are transgender are transgender are trans men.
So women that believe or want to be men are actually more common than trans women.
And there are different reasons for women and men to want to be trans.
Women, it tends to be...
Like, a body dysmorphia thing, whereas men, there are more varied and sinister reasons why they want...
tim pool
Not family-friendly reasons.
phil labonte
Yeah, exactly, you know?
And so, you know, we shouldn't...
As a society, we can allow for people to do this.
We can allow...
We can...
Make sure, like, we can make room for them, but we definitely shouldn't have, we shouldn't be supporting it.
We shouldn't be changing laws for trans people or making special laws for trans people.
We shouldn't, and we definitely should be prosecuting doctors that would do any kind of operations on children.
shane cashman
And also shouldn't be funding all of it overseas.
phil labonte
100%, no.
Absolutely not.
tim pool
Well, I mean, one of the crazy things is that Trump has that executive order based on saying, we're going to cut funding from you if you're promoting this at your university or schools or whatever.
They're still doing it.
All these schools and universities, they haven't stopped.
viva frei
The main governor there where she had her face off with Trump.
Yeah, I forget her name, but she's like, yeah, we're not...
We're not going to follow this?
And he says, well, you're not going to get any more federal funding, so congrats.
It's not a question of tolerating.
Everybody can do what they want as adults, where it becomes an issue, your freedom's end, where my nose begins.
And so, do what you want, and more power to you, no judgment whatsoever.
But it doesn't extend to kids.
phil labonte
You can do what you want, but we can judge a little.
tim pool
No, no, you can't do what you want as an adult.
viva frei
That's not true.
You can do what you want to the extent that it doesn't impact somebody else.
So a man who believes that he wants to dress up as a woman is fine, but cannot compete.
And a parent who thinks their kid who's 14 years old should go get a double mastectomy is a big no.
tim pool
Incorrect.
viva frei
Go on, sir.
tim pool
Adults aren't allowed to do lots of things.
There are a lot of things that you're not allowed to do to yourself that don't impact others.
viva frei
I'm thinking you're going to go to drugs.
tim pool
Drugs is the easy one.
viva frei
But drugs I disagree with because I think by partaking in the drug trade, you're necessarily doing things to others by supporting the cartels.
tim pool
What if you're growing some plants in your backyard of your own business?
viva frei
That would be...
First of all, I do happen to agree with that.
You want to smoke weed?
Except if you're going to smoke and drive.
But set aside drugs.
What other one?
tim pool
In terms of general body dysmorphia, you cannot perform surgeries on yourself.
You'll get 5150'd.
viva frei
Yes, but you can find someone who will cut your tongue down the middle or set implants in your skull.
tim pool
And not remove a hand.
viva frei
There was a woman.
I don't know who did it to the woman who blinded the woman.
tim pool
And there are people who suffer from body dysmorphia where they will stage accidents.
So there have been stories where...
People have gone to doctors and said, I need my arm removed.
It's alien to my body.
I'm telling you, it's not my arm.
And they say, absolutely not.
So then their car jack breaks, and their car lands on their arm, and oh no!
viva frei
It requires a certain degree of dedication.
Holy crap.
tim pool
I mean, these people are suffering from a DSM-5 mental disorder.
viva frei
You know up in Canada that with the conversion therapy ban, which was wholly supported by the so-called Conservative Party, medical practitioners, psychiatrists, psychologists can't talk someone out of it, so they can only affirm.
A mental condition, and they cannot try to treat it, which is why MAID is so popular.
Yeah, it's the number three.
tim pool
If you'd like to go down the list of things I'm not allowed to do, if you live in a suburban environment, you're not allowed to play music.
Too noisy.
It affects others.
viva frei
Yeah, but that runs, like, I'm not allowed having chickens where I live, but that's right.
tim pool
That's wrong.
viva frei
Except the noise would irritate the neighbors.
tim pool
Roosters, not chickens.
Why do they ban chickens?
You can, you can, uh, hence.
viva frei
So this was the question my wife asked.
Do, do, do chickens, I know they go brr, brr, like they do that purring noise, but they don't, they don't annoy the neighbors.
tim pool
They don't yell.
Well, to be fair, chickens do make noises.
They, they are noisy.
They do, they, they do the egg song, you know.
viva frei
What's that?
How does that go?
tim pool
Uh, it's different for every chicken, but they, they'll just basically bagok, bagok, bagok over and over and over again.
viva frei
See, the discussion I was having with my wife is, if we get a few chickens, will the neighbors know?
Because the HOA are a bunch of fascists and they're going to come down on us with an iron face.
tim pool
I'm not allowed to install a deck on my house.
I'm not allowed to put in another toilet.
I'm not allowed to put a window in my house.
Like, I'm not allowed to redo my basement.
viva frei
Yeah, but I can make the argument that that could...
Potentially tangentially affects somebody else, a guest, a visitor, whatever, who comes in and trips and falls.
You can do whatever you want in your body.
shane cashman
That's crazy.
viva frei
Well, I mean, I'm just trying to steal, man, the argument here.
But, like, in terms of body self-mutilation, people can cut themselves, they can scar themselves.
tim pool
You can't remove body parts.
viva frei
Yeah, because I believe, well, I wonder if you could do it to yourself, but not find a doctor.
shane cashman
If someone shows up at the hospital who's removed their hand somehow, is that immediate, you're taken away?
phil labonte
You should definitely be looked at.
tim pool
You're probably going to get 5150'd.
They're going to say you are clearly a risk to yourself and others.
And they're going to involuntarily commit you.
shane cashman
I had a roommate who wanted to do that.
Crazy person.
viva frei
It's amazing.
Cutting off the hand is crazy, but cutting off the boobies of the schmeckle and then all of a sudden it's gender identity.
shane cashman
That's fine.
We'll actually fund it with your tax dollars.
tim pool
To be fair, there are a lot of other things that are illegal that's still in the books, though most states don't enforce against these things.
Okay, I'll give you a family-friendly example.
In West Virginia, cohabitation is a crime.
No cop is going to arrest a guy for living with his girlfriend, but it is illegal.
shane cashman
I should start.
Bring it back.
Let's bring it back.
tim pool
Isn't that wild?
Like, they actually enforced this up until, like, probably the early 1900s.
shane cashman
Yeah.
tim pool
I mean, it was probably still frowned upon and seemed as odd in the 40s and 50s.
shane cashman
For sure.
tim pool
If in West Virginia, you are dating a woman...
And you go and live in her house, or she in yours?
That is a crime in the state.
shane cashman
That's how you make America great again.
viva frei
Crime.
As far as the story goes, and you see, the cult thing, in terms of why they can't abandon this, I'm not sure about that.
I think there's a lot of, especially Kyle Kalinske, I don't think it's cultish.
I actually think it's genuine opportunism.
And this is where, slowly, you paint yourself in a corner and then you have no choice but to double down, triple down, not because of sincere belief.
His wife is Crystal Ball, right?
There's nobody on earth who can be sincerely that stupid or that...
unidentified
I will say stupid.
viva frei
Putting out views where I think it's rage-baiting, click-baiting.
I think she's backed herself into so far of a corner that you can't get a normal job after that, so you just have to make as much as you can.
I think that's where they're at.
tim pool
Like CNN.
viva frei
Like CNN.
When it comes to the parents who will never be able to admit that they irreparably harmed their children, probably as a result of their own mental conditions and not that of their child, because this is like transgender syndrome by proxy, they will never admit it.
They can't.
Same thing with the parents who may have given their kids the jab and bad things happen.
But I think they're going to be relegated to such a vocal minority that at some point – On the one hand, everyone's going to break ties with them, but then the problem is everyone's going to break ties with them, and then they're going to go from being a vocal minority to potentially something worse, which we've already started seeing a lick of out in Portland and in various places in America.
They're going to start getting more active in terms of asserting themselves.
tim pool
Let's jump to this story, and we'll try and keep it light.
This one's pretty crazy, so before we do, smash that like button, of course, and share the show.
If you really like the work that we do, give us a little share on social media.
This is from Cointelegraph.
Streamer Amaranth claims she was robbed at gunpoint over crypto fortune.
In November, Amaranth, real name Caitlin, whatever, revealed that she owned around 211 Bitcoin worth over $20 million.
So she announced that in November?
phil labonte
That's an error.
tim pool
That is a big mistake.
And so I don't know if this has been confirmed or not.
There's videos that were posted of it.
Late at night on March, I got a popular streamer.
They keep saying whose real name is.
I don't care.
Made a series of posts on X saying she was subject to a home invasion by robbers who wanted crypto is what they were yelling.
In November, she posted a screenshot from her Coinbase account showing she held around 211 Bitcoin, which was worth around $20 million at the time.
The screenshot also showed she held around $80,000 in Ether.
That's not a lot of Ether.
Relative to her $20 million in Bitcoin.
She posted an update on March 3rd hours after the initial X post where she said there were three gunmen.
Adding a video, presumably from a security camera, after allegedly leading the three men to another section of the property, three loud noises ring out, and the men run off camera.
One of the guys is yelling, I think he's yelling, I got shot, I got shot.
Yeah, this is crazy.
Known for being open about our finances, appearing on YouTube stuff, etc., etc.
viva frei
It's a wild story.
There's open about your finances, and then they're showing that you have $20 million of the most easily transferable, theftable asset.
On Earth.
I mean, and then there's flexing and then there's rubbing in other people's faces.
tim pool
No, I disagree.
Those guys weren't going to get away with that money.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
No way.
viva frei
It depends if they get out of the country beforehand.
I mean, first of all, just letting people know that you have Bitcoin or substantial portions of Bitcoin, you turn yourself into an absolute...
Target.
I mean, of the highest order, you or friends and family.
I have a beautiful meteorite fossil.
Not a fossil, but a meteorite at my place.
And I show it off.
I'm like, man, if someone wants that meteorite, they know where to come and get it.
But to say that you have Bitcoin, which is just a button away and then you're deleted.
But you're not.
tim pool
The transaction is on the public ledger forever.
And anyone can track who took the money and where they spent it.
And immediately, the feds come kicking your door, and especially with a home invasion like this.
So if these guys...
viva frei
How fast would it take...
Sorry, how long would it take you to convert that into cash if you go to like a Bitcoin depot or a bank?
tim pool
Oh, bro, $20 million?
A very, very, very long time.
Good luck.
You're not going...
So here's what they would have had to have done, and I doubt these guys are that sophisticated.
Actually, you know what?
I'm going to pause.
I'm not going to advise on how they could get away with something like this by explaining how it could be done.
Let me just say, the guys who went to her and then tried to get...
Presuming they said, transfer this money to us, we are stealing it.
They would never get away with it.
They would never get away with it.
Life in prison.
I believe, should this prove to be true, I have no reason to believe that she's making these things up.
She posted a ton of video of it.
But again, it's still very early.
These guys would have killed her.
No question.
Because you think about $20 million cash.
It's a lot of money.
You just invaded someone's home.
Threatened their life with a gun to their head.
Pistol whipped her.
You are looking at the rest of your life in prison.
You're not getting out.
These three guys.
So, you have to understand what these guys are probably thinking.
When they're like, transfer the money, they're going to kill her after they get the money.
That minimizes the likelihood they get caught.
That being said, Bitcoin is a public ledger, and the moment they transfer any money anywhere, everyone in the world...
Anyone in the world with the slightest ability in tracking the public leisure is going to know who received the money and who took the money.
There are a lot of anonymous accounts, but I will say this.
First, the feds know every single address and who it's attached to.
Sorry, cry more.
It's a fact.
Would they actually intervene in this regard?
You know, maybe not.
However, private investigators, private individuals could easily track these guys down.
They'd never get away with it.
There are some moves they could make to obfuscate it, which I'm not going to explain because I feel like it could just help bad people.
But for the most part, the moment they make a transaction, let me explain something to you guys.
Bitcoin's on the public ledger.
This is why Zcash and Monero were invented.
These are other cryptocurrencies that can mix up.
There are accounts that have tried to bypass this, but we are so past the point, man.
They've tried making Bitcoin addresses.
To bundle up Bitcoins and then disperse them in random areas to try and obfuscate where they're coming from and where they're going.
It is not complicated for any modern AI system to look at all of the addresses and then create a map of who is receiving money for what.
And not to mention with cell phone data.
Have a nice day, dude.
They know who you are.
They know all of your addresses.
There's a dude named Weave.
His hacker name is Andrew Anheimer.
Some journalists just tracked various addresses and then isolated the account they believe to be his based on location, time of transfers.
They figured out it was in Ukraine, and they found this guy.
And I could be getting the story wrong, but we have seen he ingested over $1 million this year in donations through various addresses funneling in.
And there's no name on these addresses, but they do really simple things like, where is the person we're looking at located?
Then you track time of day of common transactions.
Now you know the time zone they're in.
Instantly you'll know, you know, you're going to start finding pieces of these things together.
So for the most part, any sufficiently interested private researcher or government is going to immediately find out who took your money.
Now that doesn't mean you're getting the money back.
They could transfer it out.
But these guys weren't going anywhere after this.
shane cashman
It seems like you have to plan out something way more smarter.
Than what they were doing.
Because the video we saw seemed like just some guys running in real quick.
tim pool
You can't live in the United States after this.
shane cashman
Right.
Are these just crazy people then?
tim pool
No, they're just stupid.
They don't get it.
shane cashman
Yeah.
tim pool
They don't understand.
viva frei
I think it's like a bank robber.
You smash glass and then steal the jewels and then you make off.
But it's not as...
What is it?
Fungible?
tim pool
How are you going to transfer out all this money from Coinbase?
I mean, not only that, but I have to wonder that Coinbase...
Is that what they said?
They said she revealed that her Coinbase account...
viva frei
Well, actually, hypothetically, if it were on a...
I can't pretend that I know what I'm talking about.
If it's on a hard wallet, they steal her hard wallet with her whatever password, and then where they're going to get to them is with the crime.
tim pool
Where do you send the money?
Russia?
And then you have someone redirect funds in another direction?
Any sufficiently interested investigator or government agency is going to easily figure this out.
Have you guys ever heard of Death Note?
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
The manga?
You know Trump's in it?
I didn't know.
So Death Note is one of the most popular manga ever, one of the most popular anime shows.
It's about a kid who, Shinigami, means death god in Japan, drops a notebook in the real world, and if you write someone's name in it, they die.
You can write how they die within reason.
It has to be possible.
And who cares about that?
They released what's called a one-shot update to the series when Trump got elected, and Trump is in it.
And in this, a kid gets a copy of the death note, which allows you to write anyone's name in it.
They die.
It's a God weapon.
And he announces through anonymous online whatever.
I live in Japan.
We're going to sell this.
We're going to sell this death note to the highest bidder.
Donald Trump bids something like $60 trillion.
America must have the notebook.
But then they all say, there's no way you're getting the money.
He then instructs the United States to deposit $5 million cash into the bank account of every single Japanese citizen.
That way nobody knows who the actual person was who was selling it because everybody got the money equally.
That's the way you have to obfuscate things like this.
You steal $20 million, you walk away with a few thousand dollars a month because there's no way you're going to get the IRS coming down on you when they know you're spending the money if you've got $20 million.
Someone's going to come for you.
viva frei
Now I'm curious about this death note thing.
Was Trump's name added to that before July 13th?
tim pool
Well, she survived.
viva frei
No, I know, but I'm thinking there's been a rift in whatever the premise of this theory was.
tim pool
If you write a name in the Death Note, they will die.
They'll have a heart attack instantly, no matter what.
Not instantly, it's like within 28 days or what is it?
Something like that.
viva frei
I've never heard of this, but this sounds like...
tim pool
But they put Trump in it.
It was a big deal.
It went viral among basically everybody.
viva frei
Do you know the date when they put Trump in it?
tim pool
I don't know.
It was like 2017 or 18 or something.
Because Death Note was such a big deal.
When they announced they were releasing an update called a one-shot, Epilogue or whatever, with Trump in it, everyone's like, what?
viva frei
It's a rip-off of the Dead Zone or the Twilight Zone from back in the day where they give a button to somebody and they say, you push this button, somebody on Earth will die.
You don't know who, you'll never know who, and we give you $10,000.
And then the punchline is at the end, after the woman pushes the button, they take the box and say, thank you, here's your money, and we're going to go give it to somebody else and don't worry, you won't know who they are.
Bada bing, bada boom.
tim pool
Here you go, take a look.
This is Ryuk, a death god, handing the death note to Donald Trump.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Yep.
viva frei
That's not a flattering depiction of Donald Trump.
I don't like that at all.
tim pool
Well, I would call it unflattering.
phil labonte
I couldn't expect them to actually make a flattering picture of Donald Trump.
tim pool
When these images first got released, people didn't believe it was real.
There's no way.
Yep.
Trump buys the death note for some ridiculous amount of money.
phil labonte
I wonder whose name Trump would write in there first.
tim pool
It was for $500 billion.
That's what it was.
phil labonte
Who does Donald Trump hate the most?
tim pool
$500 billion.
viva frei
A lot of people.
tim pool
Trump bought the death note.
There you go.
It's really small.
We'll zoom in.
There's old Donald Trump.
phil labonte
I don't think it would be sleepy Joe Biden.
I don't think so.
viva frei
Hold on.
Another totally stupid question.
If everything on the Bitcoin ledger is publicly accessible, why are they not able to determine who Satoshi is?
tim pool
Because the accounts haven't moved.
viva frei
They have not moved since.
Jack!
phil labonte
It's Jack.
tim pool
The leading theory right now is that it's Jack.
viva frei
How much would it be worth?
tim pool
What is it, like, 100 billion or something?
What is it, 1 million coins in the first wallet or something like that?
viva frei
It hasn't moved, meaning nobody's touched it, transferred, withdrawn, or whatever.
So it's just wealth sitting out there.
phil labonte
It's an inactive account or wallet.
And really, like, all...
tim pool
58 billion dollars?
phil labonte
The way it works is you actually just have a code that allows you to move stuff around to make changes to the blockchain.
It's not like...
Like, when you have, like, your keys are just actually a way so you can change the ledger, because the blockchain is just a ledger.
tim pool
Right.
phil labonte
It's just written ins and outs.
You're not actually holding on to, like, some kind of, like, actual...
tim pool
You're basically sending your password to a system saying, I have access to this, and I'm saying these go here, and then everyone, all these other computers start checking to make sure your password's correct, and they're like, this adds up!
Move them!
And then the coins get transferred.
viva frei
So conceivably, Satoshi could be dead and that money is never going to get touched.
tim pool
Absolutely.
And, I mean, furthermore, I had like 20 Bitcoin lost on a laptop.
I had 21 point something on a laptop and it got destroyed in a fire.
viva frei
I would never get over that.
phil labonte
Ever.
viva frei
I'm not a superficial person.
By goodness, once I lost a $100 bill, still haven't gotten over that.
Yeah, son of a bitch, Tim.
tim pool
That's why it's crazy to me that she has so much Bitcoin because I'm like, wow.
Because I got my first Bitcoin at 70 cents.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
And yeah, it's five bucks and I sold them all.
And then I got a bunch more and then hit 20 bucks and I sold them all.
I remember it was like a hundred bucks and I was like, yeah!
And then I sold them all.
And then finally when it got to like a thousand, I was like, I better just buy a bunch of these things.
And I certainly do not have that much.
And I'm just looking at her like, I'm jealous.
Like, damn.
shane cashman
Did you announce how much you have like she did?
tim pool
No.
But I certainly don't have that much.
Holy crap.
Yeah, I have substantially less than that.
We'll put it that way.
That's crazy.
shane cashman
Yeah.
tim pool
Or maybe I'm lying.
unidentified
Because I'm worried about someone breaking into my house and killing me.
shane cashman
Tim's not Satoshi.
tim pool
No, Satoshi is my friend.
I mean, Jack Dorsey.
Look it up.
You should look into this.
shane cashman
I've heard that theory.
phil labonte
When you actually look at the evidence that they have, it's as good as any other evidence they have.
shane cashman
I thought people said it was Elon, too.
I see people say that on Twitter.
phil labonte
I don't think there's the evidence that it was Elon.
But, like, when you read through the evidence of it being Dorsey, it's...
shane cashman
It's compelling.
phil labonte
Yeah.
I mean, again, I'm not saying that I have a take on it really either way, but...
shane cashman
Has he ever been asked?
Like, has he ever been asked?
Like, has he ever been asked?
phil labonte
I think he has, and he's answered cryptically.
So...
tim pool
Yeah.
viva frei
It would be worth $58 billion.
tim pool
I believe.
viva frei
Okay, so...
tim pool
But Satoshi has a number of wallets.
viva frei
Okay.
I would say it would be less likely to be Elon because there would be no problem of disclosing that wealth or using it, so there'd be no reason not to use it.
tim pool
No, that's not true.
unidentified
Why?
tim pool
Finding out who started this, who has access to these wallets, I probably can't articulate it as well as the average person, but you're likely going to get apprehended by governments.
There's the guy who made the Liberty dollars.
He went to prison.
So whoever's responsible for creating this, the U.S. government might come after you.
viva frei
I will come after you like they're coming after Roger Ver, but for different reasons.
I'm totally Bitcoin illiterate.
I've heard everybody explain it.
I still don't understand it.
I never will understand it.
tim pool
The reason why I don't...
Elon and Jack make a lot of sense.
If you are already a billionaire, you don't need to move your money in crypto.
If you were an individual who made $60,000 a year, And came up with this idea to make a cryptocurrency.
You came up with the idea, like, what if we just used, like, encryption to create digital scarcity?
And then you did.
And you're sitting there now, and you make $200,000 a year, and you're looking at $100 billion, and you're like, I can't spend it, I can't spend it.
See, that, someone would crack.
And they'd be like, I made this!
But for someone like Dorsey, if he really did make it, he's like, I've already got $300 million in cash sitting around, so I don't need to touch it.
What would I buy?
So, Bitcoin's really easy to explain.
viva frei
I dare you, Tim.
tim pool
Okay.
There is a password, right, that you have.
Okay.
Everybody is running a program on their computers that basically is like bankofamerica.com.
And when you want to have money, you say, I have two passwords, my public address, my account number, and then I have a password to log in.
So you tell everybody, here's my account number.
You can put money in my account.
They do.
You then have a password, and you can log in and move the money that appears in your account.
That easy.
The only difference is that Bank of America's servers are running on a private company's data center, and Bitcoin is running on every random computer that wants to run the program.
viva frei
Just lost me there.
I'm done.
tim pool
You really get lost by that?
viva frei
I'm telling you.
Yeah, well, the one thing that I understand where I said, you know, if it's a...
tim pool
You play World of Warcraft?
viva frei
No.
tim pool
You know what World of Warcraft is?
viva frei
No.
I know what Super Mario Bros.
and Contra is.
tim pool
Okay.
viva frei
Is World of Warcraft a video game or a card game?
tim pool
It's a video game.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
Have you ever played...
Have you ever used America Online?
AOL? Yeah.
viva frei
I'm familiar with the name.
tim pool
Everybody logs in, right?
And then they all can...
You can talk to each other.
Congratulations.
That's the basic function.
unidentified
There you go.
tim pool
That's Bitcoin.
viva frei
That's fair enough.
Okay, fine.
All that I understand now is that when I ask the question, like, if it has no inherent value and you can't print more of them but you can mine more of them, you know, then why is it worth anything?
And then someone said, well, you basically just described fiat currency as well, so why is there any value to money, especially if it's not tied to gold?
tim pool
So first, there's a program, right?
The program dictates how many Bitcoin there will be.
Very simple.
There will be 21 million.
We're at, like, what, 19 million already?
phil labonte
Something like that, yeah.
tim pool
It's to get a block or whatever, which is Bitcoin.
So what is a miner?
You are running a computer trying to guess a number.
Simple way to describe it.
The computer says, I'm thinking of a number between 1 and 700 billion.
Whoever guesses it will get 7 Bitcoin or whatever.
The number goes down every couple of years as a halvening.
You don't need to understand any of this stuff to know how Bitcoin operates.
This is just the nitty gritty stuff.
Every so often, I think now it's like three Bitcoin, three point something, I could be wrong.
Every couple of years, the amount of Bitcoin you receive from solving an equation reduces.
Everybody's running big rigs trying to solve equations to win blocks in the ledger, in the blockchain.
So that means, why does Bitcoin have value?
It's backed by electricity.
How much electricity does it take to solve an equation?
Let's say it was $100.
I spend $100 on my electric bill for my GPUs to solve this equation and generate one Bitcoin.
I cannot sell that Bitcoin for less than $100 because of the cost to produce it.
There you go.
So the price can only go up because of natural attrition.
Bitcoins get lost, disappear, and can't be recovered.
And because every couple of years, the amount of Bitcoin you receive versus the amount of energy you put in goes down by half.
So we do see a price doubling periodically.
You know, if we get to that point, which we're not going to get to the end of Bitcoin, 21 million, I think it's like 100 and something years.
So all that really matters is it is a false scarcity created by cryptography.
There is a password on each coin that you have that could be assigned to you.
And for this reason, it cannot be copied unless someone has your password and they could hack the system or whatever.
But that's not there you go.
And so it's digital scarcity.
There you go.
viva frei
Well, that actually answers the.
Environmental question, right?
I first didn't understand why people were saying, like, it's not green to Bitcoin because I understand actually the running internet to try to solve the equation.
tim pool
But they're setting up mines at waterfalls and, you know, hydro plants.
So they get basically just...
Dirt cheap energy.
viva frei
That's wild.
tim pool
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Michael Brown says, hi, hi, good people.
Howdy.
Alpha Turkey says, the float of Elon in Germany is the final straw.
I've seen enough.
The U.S. is the last stand of Western values.
Pull out of NATO now.
Interesting.
Jason Dixon says, can I please get a shout out to your Discord and the podcast that comes from this community?
We are networking.
The Quiet Part podcast is from your Discord.
Shout outs.
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Because there's over 20,000 people hanging out.
More than that now.
They've launched podcasts.
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You can get active in this community, and that's what we're hoping you do.
If everybody who is watching, Right now.
Signed up.
Got in the Discord server.
Started working with other people to build and network.
We'd win the midterms.
We'd win 2020. Easy.
The issue is people who...
It's not meant to be disrespectful, but a lot of people are passive.
They'll watch the news and they'll say, good to know.
And they don't do anything much beyond that.
All I'm saying is make friends with other people in whatever way you can.
The Discord server is just one way to do that.
We've got staff who help run it and bring people in.
It's one way to go one step beyond just being a passive observer and being an active player in the news stories.
So there you go, Jason.
phil labonte
All right.
viva frei
I just went to look up the image of the float.
They seem to have, in Germany, depicted Ilana's, can I say the swastika?
It was apparently carrying a swastika.
phil labonte
Yeah, you know, I thought it was illegal in Germany.
But apparently, if you're dunking on Elon Musk, it's not so illegal.
viva frei
I want to make sure I understand the context of it before commentating, but I just went to see what was on there.
Libs of TikTok had retweeted it, so it's...
tim pool
All right, Kane Abel says, Tim, when are we going to see arrests?
All we see is them resigning and nothing else.
The AG Bondi needs to arrest these criminals to show transparency.
It's been a month, okay?
I don't think we're going to see a lot of arrests.
I think we might see some, maybe.
But it's been a month, so...
Look.
Cash has already launched an investigation into Comey.
You guys saw this?
The Honeypots thing he was working on?
shane cashman
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
I mean, come on.
Let's go.
shane cashman
Yeah.
tim pool
Dude, Dan Bongino, his deputy FBI director, is glorious.
Oh, my God, man.
You know, like, I don't know who would have been better.
Like, when Matt Gaetz was named AG and we got all excited, Dan Bongino, his deputy FBI director, is, like, on that same level of, this dude's going to come in like a bulldozer.
phil labonte
I mean, that's what people voted for, too.
They want to see significant change in the bureaucracy, definitely at the FBI. You don't want to see Americans being singled out for their religious views or for prayer in public or for having the audacity to go to a parent-teacher meeting about worrying about what your kids are being taught in school.
tim pool
All right.
TheRealHydro says, Tim, how will you explain to your child that you dress the same way every day?
The beanie is who you are.
Why not dress different with the beanie?
I have seasons.
I have seasons.
So a few months ago, it was the for like for maybe like fall and winter.
I was wearing the black button up.
I periodically had the baseball T-shirt.
I think that was in the fall a little bit.
Now we're in the colder season.
It is the hoodie.
And then once summer comes around, I'll probably go back to the baseball tee.
You know, layers.
viva frei
The only clothing you need to change daily, necessarily socks and underwear.
You can get away with your pants and your shirt.
Your shirt you can get away with one extra day.
Pants maybe if they're jeans.
phil labonte
Pants and socks.
viva frei
In terms of more than once a day or wear them?
phil labonte
You can actually, if you get nice wool socks, you can go a couple days without work.
viva frei
Nice and wool are mutually incompatible.
phil labonte
Yes, I agree.
viva frei
That's like the itchiest thing.
I've never met a pair of unitchy wool socks.
tim pool
Not to mention, like, I skate every day.
My socks are soaking wet.
shane cashman
Yeah, gotta change those.
tim pool
Strenched in sweat.
Everything, my whole body.
Just sweat.
I just throw them.
Stick to the wall.
I'm kidding.
Yeah, no way.
How will I explain it to my child?
I don't think I will have to.
I don't know.
viva frei
Kids wear the same thing every day for goodness sake.
They're going to feel comfortable if someone doesn't change their clothes.
tim pool
Well, I suppose when my child is old enough to speak and comes to me and goes, Father, why are you wearing the same clothes again?
I'll be like, why are you talking like that?
I'm kidding.
My kid's not going to be British.
All right, where are we at?
Mr. Vintage says, need to remind everyone of the dozens of articles in the mainstream press circa 2018-2022 howling about the neo-Nazi militia groups in Ukraine.
Now they are outraged we don't underwrite them.
Yep.
That's funny.
Let's see.
Chopsaki says, Hey Viva, Locals is great, but watch how easy it is to transition directly to Rumble Premium without having to use the awful Locals video interface.
viva frei
They're going to be still two different, not markets, but two different communities.
Locals is going to be one distinct community and Rumble Premium, another one for those who want to.
There's much more to the Locals community than...
tim pool
Right, Locals is like, they're funding you directly?
viva frei
Locals, yeah.
tim pool
Which is...
viva frei
Premium is the same thing.
It's just that there's more...
Locals is more like written stuff, video content, direct interaction.
Rumble Premium is you get exclusive content on Rumble.
It's two different products, but both equally awesome.
But Locals is awesome.
unidentified
I think Rumble is going to take off.
viva frei
Absolutely.
There's a shift in the zeitgeist.
tim pool
it's just a shame you know Bongino has to now go be deputy director of the FBI so there's he's you know that value from Rumble is you know temporarily on pause but he'll come back and his audience will be there if Chris and the crew over at Rumble can navigate properly right now you take a look at Spotify desperately trying to play catch up in the podcasting game and they are way behind Rumble Now, for music, Spotify is king, right?
Everyone knows that their stock is like $600.
Rumble's stock is like $9 right now or something.
But there's a reason Spotify is desperately trying to do video podcasting.
Rumble already has it.
So I'll keep it simple.
We have our audio podcast, Now Video, on Spotify.
We do like 30,000 downloads on that.
And I'm like, okay, it's fine, I guess.
And with all due respect to Spotify, they were telling us we're actually a very big show in news and politics.
And they were like, we really want to get you on because your show does so well.
And I was like, we do way more on YouTube and on Apple.
Spotify's kind of low.
And then we launch on Rumble, and we're getting $250,000 to $300,000 on Rumble.
And so it's like, the first day we're on Rumble obviously will be big, but then in the first week we're doing 10 times what Spotify does?
Why would someone launch a podcast on Spotify?
And I gotta say this, so that's why it's really gonna come down to can the crew at Rumble navigate this PR-wise, because right now, I believe it's fair to say it's a fact.
If you launch a podcast on Spotify, you're going to get a fraction of the download, streams, views you're going to get to whereas if you launched on Rumble.
If you launched video podcasting on YouTube, you're going to get zero.
If you launch video podcasting on Rumble, you're going to start off with literally a random nobody.
You're going to have views.
So I'm looking at that and I'm like, if they can maximize that and explain to podcasters...
There's more audience here than on these other platforms.
It'll be huge.
The other thing is, you guys should download the Rumble app.
Download the Rumble app.
Easy listening.
Very good.
And the market's changing too.
No longer are we doing ad reads based on platforms.
It used to be, like back in the day, it'd be like...
We'll advertise on Apple.
We'll advertise on Spotify.
We'll advertise on YouTube.
Now it's because there's so many different platforms.
It's just video streams and audio downloads.
Because there's like 73 different platforms.
So now it's like, what's your total reach?
It's weird.
So Rumble's primed, baby.
It's going to be a question of, are they going to pull it off?
But they certainly have a major opportunity.
That's why we wanted to do a deal with them.
We were like, you guys, they're ahead of everybody on this one.
YouTube actually banned video podcasts.
Can you believe it?
phil labonte
Crazy.
tim pool
They were suppressing and shutting down video podcasters for nearly a decade.
And Rumble was built to accommodate them.
And now Spotify is trying to invest massively in this.
I'm telling you.
I don't know.
I don't want to rant on that.
Because I'll keep going.
Here we go.
Pullian says, Heaven received a new angel today.
My kitty Chili passed away today at the age of 15. Adopted in October 2010. Please give your fur babies an extra treat and hug today.
I'm sorry to hear it.
Today, Seamus...
We gave him some fresh salmon.
And he loved it.
Yes.
I call him James now, though.
shane cashman
How'd that happen?
tim pool
Because I don't respect the Irish.
I'm kidding.
I am Irish.
shane cashman
Seamus Coughlin just appeared in the room.
tim pool
But that was a joke.
I said to Seamus.
I was like, we're calling him James now because Seamus and James, obviously, it's the Anglo and the Irish.
But I literally just call him James.
unidentified
That's funny.
tim pool
Yeah, the cat's name is James now.
It makes it easy because we don't have to do Seamus 1 and Seamus 2 anymore.
Alright.
What have we here?
Scott Colum says Zelensky entered office promising peace and he tried in the beginning.
Azov threatened his life if he made a deal.
It's widely reported if he makes a deal, he's a dead man.
He got in over his head.
viva frei
I'm telling you, he's going to go down as the modern day Yasser Arafat 2.0.
He's in a position where he cannot make a peace deal.
And where he's going to have nowhere to go.
To flee after he's not welcome in Ukraine anymore.
tim pool
Interesting, we had a lot of people chatting, saying Yasser Arafat, the exact same thing.
viva frei
Which is why the peace negotiations, they're almost insincere, disingenuous.
And oddly enough, to the detriment of his own people as well.
They're going to run out of people to send to the front line in Ukraine.
shane cashman
They'll wind up in California.
tim pool
Alright, Admiral Poseidon says, save it for the uncensored is now a joke.
I love the rant reads in the call-ins.
But in the new format, we've lost the exclusive content.
After callers, y'all just sign off.
We want uncensored.
We have the Green Room Show.
So we've added an additional podcast, Monday through Friday even, where we hang out and kind of just say whatever we want behind the scenes and talk about whatever.
So maybe we can try and make it a bit more, I don't know, humorous, I guess?
But that's why I keep telling everybody, go watch the Green Room Show.
Because that's where we're hanging out behind the scenes, people are telling their stories, and they can literally just say whatever they want.
viva frei
Is the person's complaint that it's not edgy enough or there's not enough offensive content?
tim pool
Before, when we weren't really doing the green, like we were doing the green for a while, it fell off.
The way it used to be was that after the show ended, the uncensored show, was like 10 minutes of a story with us kind of just riffing, and then we bring in callers.
Now we're just bringing in callers.
We're doing a few minutes of rumble rants and then bringing in callers.
But I will add to that.
If the Rumble rants have points to be made that bring up the conversation, and so we do have an uncensored portion for you tonight, considering the Amaranth story, there's stuff that's not so family-friendly, which we're going to give about, you know, a good solid ten minutes to, and talk about, and show the video and all that stuff.
You know, so you'll see.
You'll see.
But yeah, uncensored is still uncensored.
The call-ins are...
Still uncensored.
viva frei
What they're saying is they want to see...
What's her name?
Amaruth.
They want to see her OnlyFans page in the after party.
tim pool
Ah, well, you've got to pay for that.
That's not something we can accommodate.
All right, we'll grab a couple more here.
Captain Winkle says, I am from Mexico City, now a U.S. citizen, and just found out through Tucker Carlson, Ukraine is selling U.S. weapons to the cartels.
Yeah, and a black market, just in general.
I've heard that they were...
Basically just taking U.S. materials and just selling them off.
shane cashman
We had a former president doing the same thing.
viva frei
He wasn't selling them.
He would just abandon them so that they could then be taken and sold off.
He didn't do it.
shane cashman
Obama in Fast and Furious.
viva frei
Oh, yes.
tim pool
Robert Rogers says, are we on the wrong side?
The EU and UK arrest for memes and praying and protect pedo grape rings.
Grapes.
They no longer line up with our ideals.
Russia, on the other hand, kind of does somewhat.
Yeah, Vladimir Putin is...
viva frei
I think there's an element...
People want to lionize Putin because of the degree to which we've been lied to.
They now assume that not only is he not a villain, but he must be a hero.
phil labonte
He's definitely a villain.
viva frei
He's a freaking politician.
There are very few politicians on Earth or governments on Earth that you should ever trust.
And it's not because you happen to be Jewish that you're going to trust the Israeli government any more than you're American.
You're going to trust the American government.
phil labonte
He's killed multiple people that were critical of him, people in press.
He's used...
Radiation and poison.
shane cashman
People just jump off of...
phil labonte
Yeah, throwing people off.
Putin is...
There is no way for...
It doesn't make any sense to say that...
Our values align more with Putin's.
It's fine to say that the UK or that Europe has become an illiberal place, that they are now starting to institute blasphemy laws.
If you say things about Islam, they're going to throw you in jail because it's easier throwing you in jail than throwing all the people that are Muslim in jail.
They're going to say that you can't have certain opinions if you post things on the internet.
Those things are terrible and we should condemn them, but that doesn't mean that we should say, oh no, Russia is actually good.
No, it's not.
Putin is not a good guy.
We don't want to be on his team.
tim pool
He keeps pulling this bouncing back and forth from what president and prime minister because he's not supposed to be in power and he's just lying his way to stay in power.
phil labonte
You're making the same mistake Barack Obama made.
viva frei
I think people want to view him as a benevolent dictator.
Yeah, sure, he's hard and ruthless and whatever, but at least he keeps stability and order.
Bottom line, the people, everyone who he whacked, they shouldn't have mouthed off like that.
phil labonte
Yeah, I did.
tim pool
Alright, here we go.
Luffy the Sun God says, take it from someone who is the biggest One Piece fan in the UK. Luffy is fighting against a one-world government.
He's an anarchist, if anything.
But he's also a hero.
You know what I mean?
Like, heroes are very distinct in their ethos and how they treat bad guys.
I could never watch One Piece, though.
I just find it so awful.
The animation is just like, the budget was 10 cents.
phil labonte
It was bad.
tim pool
It's very bad.
viva frei
And yet somehow South Park is among the best animated cartoons on Earth.
tim pool
But it's intentionally in that weird style.
I don't know, man.
I've tried to watch One Piece and I just cannot get into it.
Everyone keeps telling me it's so good.
And it is, I think, the most popular anime manga right now in the world.
And I'm just like, eh.
That being said, Naruto, what happened there?
They were like, let's make a show about ninjas, and now it's aliens.
And I'm just like, okay, and that fell off.
But, you know, welcome to Japan.
phil labonte
Whatever's clever.
tim pool
All right, my friends, smash the like button, share the show with everyone you know.
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Well, we're going to do a minute or so of outros, and then it'll be about 30 seconds.
But we're going to deep dive in the Amaranth story, uncensored, because we've got some stuff to talk about.
Not so family-friendly, so you don't want to miss it.
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Viva, you want to shout anything out?
viva frei
Viva Fry on Rumble.
VivaBarnesLaw.locals.com.
The Viva Fry for someone who swears an awful lot on Twitter.
I've reached my limit of polite tolerance of idiocy.
shane cashman
You can find me everywhere online at Shane Cashman.
The show's Inverted World Live on YouTube and Rumble.
On YouTube, we are about 1,000 away from hitting 50,000 subscribers.
I forget.
Maybe 50 or 40. I forget.
But we're 39 episodes in.
So it's pretty sweet if you can find us on there.
Subscribe, like, share it.
We'll see you there.
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phil labonte
I am Phil That Remains on Twix.
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tim pool
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