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Trump JUST REVOKED Biden Clearance, SANCTIONS SA Over Treatment Of Whites w/Tony Ortiz | Timcast IRL
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tim pool
Each of these past few weeks under President Donald Trump have been a year or more in the It's indescribable.
Today I saw that Donald Trump revoked the security clearance of Joe Biden.
I mean, this is nuts.
This is a former president.
He already banned Bolton and I think Brennan, too, from federal buildings and revoked their clearance, revoking also the total 51 former spies who lied about the Hunter Biden laptop.
The big news, however, and this one's tough for us because we could go with there's a judge trying to block the firing of USAID employees.
USAID just had its name stripped from the building.
Crazy stuff is going on.
But Donald Trump issued an executive order on South Africa.
Sanctions and calling for refugee resettlement of quote-unquote ethnic minorities.
And we all know what ethnic minority that is.
It is the white South Africans who are being targeted or these farmers who are being tortured or killed.
Now for the longest time the media claimed it's not happening.
It's not true.
White people aren't being targeted in this country.
And now Donald Trump has come out outright as the president and said it's happening and something's got to be done about it.
This is a massive, massive story that's been bubbling up for decades.
Lauren Southern had a documentary, Farmlands, what is this, eight years ago, seven years ago, and this conversation's been happening for some time, and now movement is happening.
This is getting big.
So, you know, we've talked about, like, what's the big story?
I know for most Americans, it's probably going to be USAID, foreign spending, you know, Big Balls is back.
Elon Musk has rehired, quote-unquote, Big Balls.
That's his name?
I'm sorry.
That's what he goes by?
phil labonte
Beast.
tim pool
Yeah, at Doge.
But we've got to talk about South Africa.
For the longest time, there have been white people as ethnic minorities being targeted, their land being threatened or taken.
And they recently passed a law in the country that says the government can just take your land without compensation.
And when international rights groups said, hey, this seems wrong, the response from the government was, it's all according to our laws.
But just because it's illegal doesn't make it right, make it right.
So we're going to talk about all that.
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Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Tony Ortiz.
unidentified
Yeah, thanks for having me.
Really appreciate it.
tim pool
Who are you?
unidentified
What do you do?
I run Current Revolt.
We're a kind of like a National Enquirer slash TMZ of Texas politics.
So cover a lot of stories, break a lot of news, a lot of stuff we've reported on as cause legislation.
So we do good work.
tim pool
Right on.
So obviously you've been dealing a lot with the border crisis stuff and immigration.
unidentified
Yeah, it's like an everyday thing.
It's an everyday thing for us with the border crossings.
Been down there.
I think most people have been down there at this point.
It's just such a mess.
And you kind of don't realize until you go and see how absolutely awful it is.
tim pool
Right on.
Well, thanks for hanging out.
Brett is here again.
brett dasovic
Yes, back again two nights in a row.
You know, that's not even a downside.
Like, saying TMZ, actually one of the underrated sites that seems to not editorialize as much as other sites.
So that's actually a compliment in a lot of ways.
unidentified
I love it.
Yeah, yeah.
Somebody tried insulting me once, I think, years ago, saying, you're like any TMZ. And I was like, you know what?
You're right.
Not an insult.
brett dasovic
But guys, yes, Brett here.
Two nights in a row.
Let's go.
phil labonte
Hello, everybody.
My name is Phil Labonte.
I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band, All That Remains.
I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary.
Let's go.
tim pool
Here's the big story from the Associated Press.
Trump orders freeze of aid to South Africa, citing countries' land expropriation law.
But let's jump into the actual language of the man.
We have this executive order that was issued today, and it says, By the authority vested in me as president by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered as follows.
In shocking disregard of its citizens' rights, the Republic of South Africa recently enacted Expropriation Act 13 of 2024 to enable the government of South Africa to seize ethnic minority Afrikaner's agricultural property without compensation.
This act follows countless government policies designed to dismantle equal opportunity in employment, education and business, and hateful rhetoric and government actions fueling disproportionate violence against racially disfavored landowners.
In addition, South Africa has taken aggressive positions towards the United States and its allies, including accusing Israel, not Hamas, of genocide in the International Court of Justice and reinvigorating its relations with Iran to develop commercial military nuclear arrangements.
The U.S. cannot support the government of South Africa's commission of rights violations in its country or its undermining U.S. foreign policy, which poses national security threats to our nation, our allies, our African partners and our interests.
It is the policy of the United States that as long as South Africa continues these unjust and immoral practices that harm our nation, the U.S. shall not provide aid or assistance to South Africa and the United States shall promote the resettlement of Afrikaner refugees escaping government sponsored race based discrimination, including racially discriminatory property confiscation. the U.S. shall not provide aid or assistance to South This is a statement from the president.
The highest position in this country that, let's just be real, he is saying white people in South Africa are being targeted by racist policies to have their lands on.
Now, I've got to be honest.
Shouldn't all of the woke people defend these poor, oppressed minorities?
I mean, they're what, 8%?
Serge, you're going to have to help us out here.
Is the white population about 8% of South Africa?
serge du preez
I think it's like 8 or 13 percent.
It's something like that.
tim pool
13!
serge du preez
I don't really worry.
Yeah, it is.
It's kind of mimicking the United States, huh?
brett dasovic
Americans would say that is the population of African Americans here in the United States.
tim pool
Right.
brett dasovic
So it's a minority.
tim pool
So shouldn't all the woke people defend?
The underprivileged minorities, whoever in their land, taken from them in South Africa?
unidentified
Not enough melanin.
I think in Texas now, white people are becoming a minority.
And so it's Hispanics that are becoming the majority in Texas.
And you won't see it.
The minority is now just anybody that's brown.
Or something else, right?
Or black.
It's not.
When whites do become a minority, it's not.
They're going to change something.
The wording will change or something.
tim pool
Oh, there's a different Latin wording.
unidentified
Yeah, of course.
brett dasovic
Right.
Go ahead.
phil labonte
Well, in South Africa, because the whites were the colonizers, you don't actually ascribe to just the race-based.
Dynamic, right?
The power dynamic that they ascribe to is decolonization.
So, because they're colonizers, it's okay.
To attack them.
It's okay to subjugate them.
It's okay to cast them out.
Because Franz Vanden wrote a book called The Wretched of the Earth, and he describes the decolonization process is always violent.
It's always about getting the colonizer out.
So the power dynamic, it doesn't matter that they're white in this context, because it's just about having the power dynamic shift.
tim pool
But the interesting thing is that the history of colonization in South Africa does not mimic the colonization from other colonies.
True, true.
I'm not a historian of South Africa.
Maybe, Serge, you know a lot better.
But I've actually read a little bit.
I should say a little bit.
I met a few people 20 years ago.
I met a woman from South Africa.
And it got me interested because she had fled.
She was a young white woman and she had fled the country.
And I was like, really?
Like, what's that about?
And she explained that her parents didn't want her to get raped.
They were scared that she would be raped.
And so they found an au pair programs so that she could go overseas and this was the easiest way to get a visa and get her out of the country.
And so then I started just reading about what was going on and I was shocked to find that...
After the end of Apartheid, it rapidly became the rape capital, the baby rape capital of the world.
Homicides jumped tenfold, all these crazy things.
I then ended up watching a movie called Stander.
And Serge knows all about this guy, Andre Stander.
I guess he was like Dillinger of South Africa or something.
serge du preez
Something like that.
tim pool
Bank robber.
serge du preez
Bad guy that was kind of like an anti-hero.
tim pool
Yeah.
Kind of like Dillinger, you know what I mean?
He would burn mortgage papers and everyone would cheer for him.
But the Stander stories are crazy.
He robbed the bank and then they, as they were fleeing, they heard on the radio, fortunately, the Stander gang did not find the safe hidden behind one of the paintings, so they slammed the brakes on, turned around, went back to the bank, knocked on the door, and the manager said, sorry, we're closed, we were robbed.
They pointed a gun at him and said, remember us?
And went back in and went to the safe.
brett dasovic
I feel like I heard that story just recently.
Maybe you said that off air or something?
tim pool
It's a Tom Jane movie.
brett dasovic
Oh, a Thomas Jane movie.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
You should see it.
It's a good movie.
brett dasovic
I did re-watch Public Enemies recently.
tim pool
So, I was reading about it, and...
I could be totally wrong, and I'm not a historian.
I don't know.
Serge, you're going to have to correct me on this one.
But my understanding was that it was not a densely populated area when Cape Town was established and the East India Trading Company was coming down.
They needed to stop for supplies, and there were not very many people there.
But I don't know, Serge.
You tell me.
serge du preez
Well, it's a lot like the United States and a lot different than the United States.
1652, the...
Dramadaris landed in the Cape, and then after that they established a trading colony, like you said earlier before the show.
Established a trading colony, people liked the trading colony, then eventually the Bantu migration occurred, which was after we had made land in South Africa, people from, that are like what you consider Africans, came down from the north of Africa, out of the jungles, because it's, remember it's in the southern hemisphere, so the jungle, and the equator is north from you, so everything gets hotter as you go north, as opposed to hotter as you go south in the United States.
They all came down and then essentially made their own nations in South Africa because they said, hey, there's open land.
We can survive here.
We can make our place here amongst the Khoisan, who are the original true inhabitants of South Africa.
So like the idea, yeah, like you said, it's totally opposite of what people think.
They think, oh, well, white people showed up and subjugated the black people.
That's completely opposite to what happened.
tim pool
What I've read...
And it's probably largely incorrect.
It's very surface level.
It was sparsely populated.
Trade colonies were set up, which brought food, resources, technology.
And then the natives that had been there started settling in and around these colonies because the excess of resource benefited them, which over 100, 200 years or 150 years results in these massive populations surrounding the major cities, cities, which of course they set rules being like, "You guys can't come in here." And then ultimately you get apartheid, segregation, and then you get the whole world being like, "It's racist that 90% of the population can't access your cities."
Ended it.
I think the big problem that South Africa had is I know there's a lot of – one of the big reasons why the media lied about what was going on was because they were like, but people will be racist if they hear that this is happening.
And I'm like, I don't think race is the principal component.
I think it's no societies that were not culturally reformed.
top of developed nations.
And then so you have people who don't have the same culture, the same education level.
If you take the left at their word and they say poverty causes crime, it's like, what do you think is going to happen when you open the door to an entire 90% of an impoverished population and put them into a developed nation?
This is what ends up happening.
brett dasovic
Also remember, like you pointed out, why people on the left wouldn't be shouting to the high heavens about something like this.
There's a strong influence of cultural relativism, which is the reason why the feminists here will not complain about conditions going on in the Middle East.
They will only complain about it here despite the fact that there's no intellectual consistency there.
So they wouldn't actually see the problem there because they are not thinking about it that deeply.
serge du preez
Something that's also to note as well is this happened, it just speaks to what Tim is saying, it happened in Durban as well on the eastern side of South Africa because people were coming down from the eastern or the Indian Ocean in the Indian Ocean trade that occurred in that area for like 900 years.
They were coming down the coast, settling Madagascar and eventually settling the Durban area of South Africa.
So there have been Indians and Malay in the country for a long, long time.
But they also came down because it was very sparsely populated and they said, hey, we can set up a trade spot here.
People have to come around here because the Suez Canal didn't exist at the time.
People had to come around the Cape of Good Hope to go to the Indian Ocean and access a lot of trade.
So, of course, the Dutch settled there and had trade routes there because that's what the Dutch have been doing for forever.
But yeah, it's like you say, it's a population of people that don't have the same cultural high-trust society that we would have or that these Indian traders would have had that is trying to integrate that has never really integrated.
unidentified
same you're seeing this happen though even in american cities where people from other countries come and they kind of you know add to the population and they change the culture of the city you can go to your grocery store i mean you know you go to a costco and it's completely different and then the costco will update it's the type of food it carries right but these cities cultures are drastically changing because the different type of people coming in and the left will prop it up it's like oh well we get different amazing new food and it's like yeah well okay but also the culture is changing and sometimes in a very negative and this is what i hear from a lot of these liberals
tim pool
when they say things like well isn't it great that we get uh mexican food and we get you know soul food and we get these things and i'm like yeah i don't care about the food i care about in dearborn michigan where they have this massive rise in female genital mutilation and no law enforcement against it because the community there it's a natural part of their their their culture or in sweden where they had a rise in afghan refugee children raping little boys because that is also a practice that occurs in afghanistan and they're not going to be able to do that because they're
I believe the story goes that U.S. I met a guy who was a cop in Sweden who quit.
And he explained that this was happening because they resettled a bunch of refugees from Afghanistan.
And these young boys were going to pools in Sweden and raping little boys because it was a cultural practice they had.
And then they were being told not to report it.
unidentified
It's always about, like, the left will always ignore this stuff happening, right?
And they always go to the food.
And it's so funny.
I always crack up because somebody will be like...
You need to go to this restaurant because it's so authentic and it's always like a Pablo or somebody like me in the kitchen.
It doesn't matter what type of cuisine it is.
It's true.
There's a Mexican dude behind the counter.
tim pool
You go to a pizza restaurant, there's a Mexican guy working there.
unidentified
Yeah, of course.
It's authentic, but it's like...
tim pool
The truth is that as a racial group, they're the best chefs, the best cooks.
unidentified
Roofers.
tim pool
Roofers.
According to leftists.
phil labonte
Tony, to your point earlier, the...
I think that it would be very good for the United States to actually make English the national language and stop producing any official federal paperwork in any other language.
Nowadays, you can go and get...
You can get multiple different forms that are required in Chinese.
You can get them in any number of different languages.
And I think that the first step in getting people to assimilate to American culture, which should be a goal for the United States, and is the correct behavior if you're going to go to a new country.
The first goal should be get everyone to speak the same language, because if you can't even think in the same language, then you're going to have a more difficult time assimilating to the culture.
tim pool
People need to understand this.
Languages are almost like operating systems.
phil labonte
Yes, 100%.
tim pool
And most people are, I guess, what's the phrase?
You'd say monolingual?
Speaking one language, they don't really understand that different cultures that speak a different language, You ever encounter someone...
phil labonte
This is so important.
tim pool
Right.
Have you ever encountered someone and you said, like, what is that?
And they go, ah, there's no word in English for it.
I'm like, whoa, what do you mean there's no...
Then explain it in English as to what you think it is.
And they go, man, I guess you would say it's...
What they're literally saying is, there is a concept...
There is something in their mind they can see that they cannot articulate in my language.
brett dasovic
There was actually a trans actor in Hollywood that's going through this whole thing right now because a bunch of...
Inflammatory tweets came out and they're actually all of them.
So she's losing award season because all of this stuff against various groups came out and they're actually a big part of what they're saying is it's actually worse.
All the translated ones for this guy are actually worse if you read it in the native language.
And this is actually one of the first things that Hollywood did to try to shame Americans was the idea that you go to, they would turn you into a straw man argument where you go to a convenience store and they ask you, it's like, I'm sorry.
Instead of saying, I'm sorry, I don't speak Spanish, to say, speak English, dude.
When we understand that's not really how you think about it, you're like, look, I'm sorry we're having a miscommunication here.
I don't speak your language, but that's not interesting because Hollywood is self-hating and they want to portray anyone who isn't multilingual or multicultural as a bad person.
tim pool
So, thank you.
I've been all over the place and giving thanks, expressing gratitude.
I always thought it was funny that in Spanish it's gracias, right?
And I'm like, that just sounds like you're saying gracious.
So you're kind of conveying somewhat of a different idea.
When I was in Brazil, I asked my friend, how do you say thank you?
In Portuguese, it says obrigado.
And I said, oh, okay, all right, that's simple.
And then I saw a sign.
For parking?
And it said something like obrogatorio or something like that.
And I was like, why does the parking sign say thank you on it or some form of thank you?
And then I said, what does that mean?
He goes, oh, it says, it's like, he was explaining that parking sign says that you can't park here for this reason.
And I said, why does it say that I'm there?
And he goes, that means obligation.
And I was like, when you guys say thank you, are you saying that I am obligated?
And then I started to think about this.
And this is something probably linguists have known since they went to college, like their first course.
How we express gratitude is conveyed in different ways.
And when you ask someone to translate it, they're not telling you the actual translation.
So when he told me, you say, Obrigado is how you say thank you.
In my mind, thank you means to you I am grateful that you have provided something for me.
In his mind, he is saying, don't worry, it's an obligation that I have.
You know, it's a different concept.
So when in the United States...
Now that we're seeing the rise of all these different languages, Phil makes a really great point because many people have pointed out.
When you don't have a shared language, your culture shatters.
And then you end up with vastly different ideas as to what should or should not be and no way to convey them.
And then going back to the whole point about food versus law, you end up with places where they have female genital mutilation in Michigan.
And then we hear it in the news.
The problem is, in a largely Americanized Christian moral tradition area, we are shocked to hear it's happening.
And then when you go there, they say, don't interfere in our way of life.
This is normal for us.
unidentified
Yeah, and the left will do that.
They'll say, oh, we shouldn't change the culture for these countries, right?
But they're totally okay with other countries coming in here and changing the way we do things.
brett dasovic
Yeah, that's the cultural relativism.
unidentified
Yeah, and you have people in the U.S. that have immigrated here, and they've been here for 30, 40 years, and they still don't speak English.
tim pool
I want to just read one super chat before I go to the next story, because Sam's son said, Tim is Tim the kind of dude who speaks broken Spanish to Mexican restaurant workers 100%.
It is a secret.
It is a fact.
In Chicago, if you order in Spanish, you get free stuff.
Because none of the Mexican restaurants are mad at you for trying to speak their language.
It is a sign of respect, and they appreciate it.
So when I go in, I say, hola mi amigo, dos tacos de pollo, por favor, mas crema, y avocado, or whatever.
Guacamole.
And then they smile and they say, yeah, yeah, you're trying, buddy.
And then they give me free chips.
I learned this when I was 16. Because on the south side of Chicago, Mexican restaurants everywhere.
And I went with my friend, and she was just like, let me order.
And she ordered in fluent Spanish.
And when they came out, they brought chips, guac, sour cream, salsa, and beans, beans and cheese.
And then I was like, oh, did you order that?
And she was like, no.
And I was like, they just gave you all that stuff for free?
And she's like, yeah, that's what happens when you order in Spanish.
And I was like, shut up.
So then I was at a Mexican restaurant on the north side.
And I was like, I'm gonna order in Spanish.
And that's, you know, that's the joke, dos tacos de pollo.
And then they gave me free chips and sour cream and dip.
And I was just like, I asked, I was like, I was like, hey, I didn't order that.
And they were like, oh, you're good, man.
And I was like, what?
unidentified
And now you're the gringo guy.
tim pool
You're trying.
unidentified
People appreciate from other countries you trying their language.
phil labonte
But to say that we should have a national language is not to disparage someone else or another culture.
It's simply saying everyone in America should be able to understand each other and communicate with each other.
If you're going to live here, you should assimilate.
You can speak whatever language you want at home.
And if you have...
In your neighborhood, there are...
Or, you know, it's predominantly another language that's spoken.
That's fine, too.
But when it comes to interacting in the broader society, there should be a...
It should be English.
And again, when I was growing up, it used to be...
It was when this idea was first becoming taboo, right?
Like, I remember S.O.D. had a record called...
Stormtroopers of Death had a record called Speak English or Die.
That was in the early 90s.
And, you know, that was not...
Particularly edgy.
It was a little on the edgy side, but it wasn't super edgy.
But then after, you know, a few years after that came out, people started to say, oh, that's kind of, maybe you shouldn't.
But it's not about demeaning anyone else.
It's about making sure that everybody in America has a shared understanding of the world that we live in.
And Tim's point about language dictates, is like an operating system that is such a great...
A great way to describe it, because it really is.
We think in words, and if we don't have words for things, we can't comprehend it.
I don't think there's a word for snow in Hawaiian.
They don't need it.
tim pool
I've heard that.
I assume that's true, because many of them have never seen it.
But my understanding is that in French, there's a phrase or word for...
It's described as the feeling that you get when you look down from a great height and want to jump, but no, you shouldn't.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
And then there's a – I was reading about one African culture that has a word for the feeling you get when you look at a woman or when you look at a person that you deeply love but you know that they're looking at someone else who they love and care about and that you'll never have them.
And it's like for us to convey that idea, I had to say all that.
And that's why it's really funny sometimes when you're watching you're watching a show with subtitles and the guy will go like blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And then underneath it says sit down.
serge du preez
Yeah.
tim pool
And you're like, you know, because they don't have the same way of conveying that idea as simply as we do.
But let's jump to this next story from The Daily Wire.
Trump revokes Biden's security clearance, cites poor mental acuity.
Joe, you're fired.
I almost couldn't believe this when I heard.
We're set at the show, and Callum was like, hey, they revoked Biden's security clearance.
And I was like, whoa.
unidentified
Yeah, I think you said, did you just tell him he was fired?
And then you pull up the tweet, and it literally says, Joe, you're fired.
tim pool
Well, Callum was like, you're fired, Joe.
And I was like, did he actually say you're fired?
So here's what Trump said.
There is no need for Joe Biden to continue receiving access to classified information.
Therefore, we are immediately revoking Joe Biden's security clearances and stopping his daily intelligence briefings.
He set this precedent in 2021 when he instructed the intelligence community to stop the 45th president of the United States, me, from accessing details on national security, a courtesy provided to former presidents.
The report revealed that Biden suffers from poor memory and even in his prime could not be trusted with sensitive information.
I will always protect our national security.
Joe, you're fired.
Make America great again.
unidentified
Wow.
Good.
brett dasovic
One of the best examples where you know the people on the left will be really mad that he did this, not understanding that they did this to him first because they'll expect the Republicans to just lie over and play dead.
tim pool
Yeah, Independent writes that he did it as revenge against his predecessor, and I'm just kind of like, yeah, I don't care.
brett dasovic
Then what did his predecessor do?
His predecessor was just getting revenge, too.
unidentified
Biden is genuinely unwell.
I mean, I don't think even some of the left recognizes this.
He's not.
tim pool
Oh, they all recognize it.
They've just been lying the whole time.
And it's like, you know what's really crazy?
At a certain point, I genuinely do not understand how people watch.
Brian Tyler Cohen or David Pakman or even to a certain degree like Cenk Uygur.
I understand the Young Turks have been like, we are populist and we understand.
But I'm like, how does any sane person literally say, I want my tax dollars going to like pottery classes in Morocco?
Like, this is the craziest thing about it.
How are there people who are actually watching these shows where they're like, how dare Trump shut down the sending of our tax dollars to Morocco for pottery classes?
And it's like, do you really want that?
brett dasovic
Do you think a lot of them are even realizing that or they just buy these narratives that Elon Musk is shutting this stuff down to enrich himself or commit identity fraud, which are these weird arguments that they're making?
tim pool
Yeah, they're claiming that you stole the treasury data.
brett dasovic
I think you're thinking about it a lot deeper than the average person who complains about stuff like this.
I think most of them never make it past the other.
tim pool
But if your argument is that the people who watch David Pakman are dumb as a boxer, I'll agree with you.
brett dasovic
Well, I'm not even going that far.
I'm saying just the people who think in...
But do you remember when the...
What was the program for Pakistan that came out last year?
It was like $10 million to study gender in Pakistan or something like that.
tim pool
Gender studies in Pakistan.
It was $12 million in the omnibus.
brett dasovic
The point is we see stuff like that and we get annoyed because we know that these omnibus bills are packed with pork and we understand that this kind of crap comes and goes.
But the average person, they just trust – a lot of people, they just trust the government when it's Democrats.
tim pool
So what you're saying is according to this chart, your average David – I've met people that literally cannot, like, draw a...
unidentified
Visualize things?
Yeah, visualize an apple.
I've met somebody, you know, they say some people don't have an inner voice.
Yeah.
That's just the wildest thing.
tim pool
That's actually a lot of people.
unidentified
Yeah, it is a lot.
tim pool
They think in, like, abstracts and content.
That's crazy to me.
brett dasovic
I don't know how that works.
I wrote a really good Aiden Paladin video on inner monologue.
unidentified
I don't know how it works.
tim pool
I mean, we have people watch this show and they'll comment saying, like, I don't think in words.
And it's funny, like, there was a viral video where a woman was like, you guys hear, like, words in your head?
That's crazy!
And it's just like, how do you think?
Like, how do you plan things?
phil labonte
I can't imagine how you don't.
Like, I mean, I go around, like, I'll, like, walk through the house constantly muttering to myself because I'm thinking out loud.
You know, and...
But when I'm around other people, I know that it's a bad thing to mutter, but I'm still thinking the words.
tim pool
I actually, I don't have an inner monologue.
I have an inner lecture.
It's just, in my mind, it's Phil sitting in a chair explaining everything to me.
And I'm just looking at him and going, that's a good point, Phil.
So I'm visualizing it in 3D, you know what I mean?
phil labonte
I'm glad that I can be upset.
brett dasovic
I just don't think that a lot of people have even made it as far as to believe anything that they're reading here.
They just assume that the government, as long as Democrats are running it, are good people.
And if we were sending money over there, they're like, well, there must be a reason.
tim pool
I think the NPC meme is real.
Yeah.
Here's what's happened.
There is a finite amount of souls.
And so now when there's a lot of people being born, some of them have no souls.
Those are NPCs and they vote Democrat.
I'm kidding, by the way, but I know they're going to take that seriously and clip that.
Christians will get mad too.
brett dasovic
I don't even know if it's NPCs.
I think it's a lot of it is like nowadays you become a tourist in politics and you read a couple of headlines that really upset you.
But we understand that these social media companies did a lot of work to figure out what makes people post on platforms and stuff that makes you angry gets you to post.
So even if you don't read about politics all day, you read something that says that.
Elon Musk is stealing social security numbers, whatever, this bullshit that they're, sorry, the stuff that they're reading, and that gets them to post on it, but they're not actually doing the legwork to look into this stuff.
And if they did, I don't know if they'd believe it, because they've been lied to their whole lives.
unidentified
Now we've got these fake, we've got these, on NPC, we've got these fake profiles now, like Facebook's making AI. Yeah, they admitted that, didn't they?
Yeah, there was a company I read recently that they do AI support, customer support, and they were making AI LinkedIn profiles for their quote-unquote employees, which is just AI. And they were applying for jobs and open to work, right?
And these aren't real people, and LinkedIn banned them.
tim pool
Have you seen Westworld?
Did you watch Westworld, Brett?
brett dasovic
First season.
tim pool
You didn't watch beyond the first season?
brett dasovic
No, first season.
tim pool
So I watched the first season, then stopped, and then recently started watching the second.
And third, the premise of the show, it's an old show, so I'll just spoiler alert.
The purpose of, you know what Westworld is?
unidentified
Yeah, I'm familiar.
I've never watched it.
tim pool
Yeah, like you go to this fake planet where it's like you get to pretend to be a cowboy and do whatever you want.
They were actually mapping people's behaviors and mapping their personalities to create profiles of the person.
And then they were replicating them as these androids.
And so basically...
The bad guy, this woman, you know, Evan Rachel Wood, is killing humans and then using the data on them that they've stored from collecting their profile and then putting their copy into a robot body.
So we're very much getting to that point when they're creating AI profiles for people without them knowing.
Let me tell you guys, you want something scary?
I think it's now becoming clear why Elon Musk bought X. Do you know why he did?
Why he bought Twitter.
The best training algorithm for an LLM. Yeah.
That's it.
The best training model.
You can take all of the articles from Huffington Post and Breitbart and the New York Times and whatever, or you can have what they call the fire hose.
That is the massive stream of human consciousness, and Grok is absorbing it all.
phil labonte
I think that, I mean, between the, what, 15 years that Tesla has been...
Taking data from Tesla vehicles that were out in the road, or on the road, and the enormous amount of data that's in X, he might have the largest database, might have...
Actual ownership of the largest database for AI to exploit in the world.
unidentified
And Tesla's incentivizing people now to use their full self-driving with insurance discounts.
If you have a Tesla, it's in trial period, so not everybody gets this.
But if you use a certain percentage of your driving as done with full self-driving, you will get a percentage discount.
tim pool
That's 99% of my driving.
The only reason I say 99% is when I'm parking, even though they can park themselves now.
But usually, so the problem with full self-driving is it can't navigate non-map streets.
So when you're in a rural area, it will...
So what it does is, like, if I put an address in a rural area, the car will drive past the address.
Because you have to stop and go down a dirt road, which is like, it's a big acreage.
So that's the only 1%.
Usually, I'm just sitting there with my eyes...
This is what I do.
This is how I drive my Tesla.
I go like this.
I put these things on, and then I just sit back and go...
And then, I'm kidding by the way, don't do that.
But the way Tesla works is they have a camera that watches everything you do and if your eyes go off the road, even to look at your Spotify or whatever, the screen starts flashing and then it's like, pay attention to the road and then it'll turn red and then shut off.
So, don't do that.
People were doing crazy stuff though with that.
They were putting weights on the steering wheel, but now you don't need it.
Now you can literally just press the button, you click the wheel, and you sit there.
And then the car just drives itself, 100%.
unidentified
But you still have to look at the road, right?
tim pool
As long as you're looking at the road.
phil labonte
But I heard Musk was talking about it a couple weeks ago.
He believes that in...
Third or fourth quarter 2025 or first quarter 2026, they'll release full self-driving unsupervised.
tim pool
So I can sit in the back of my car?
phil labonte
Well, yeah.
I mean, that's what the Tesla taxi is.
So the technology that's in your full self-driving car is what they're putting in the Tesla taxi.
Once the Tesla taxi is actually deployed, it's the same thing.
tim pool
I'll tell you one of the scariest things, though.
I don't see it being ready.
One of the Teslas can't drive on hills.
That's just it.
Full self-driving cannot deal with hills.
unidentified
Why?
tim pool
It cannot see over them.
And so we have out here a lot of hills with curves.
Every single time in full self-driving, it will go up the hill and into the wrong lane a few inches.
It'll go over the median and then swerve right back once it realizes because it's all camera-based.
And it's kind of surprising to me because the road is mapped out.
On my screen, it knows the curve is coming, but it goes up the hill.
And then I'm thinking to myself, if there's a car coming the other way, we're colliding.
Just boom.
And there was also an instance I had a few months ago where a car stopped to make a right turn and the Tesla did not.
And then right when I was probably like two inches, I just rammed the wheel to the left and onto the wrong side of the road to stop it from hitting a car.
So it's getting there.
brett dasovic
But that's the grandiose stuff.
You were talking about the Facebook stuff, and I think they ended up getting, like, they pulled back on that program with the AI influencers and stuff, because it's basically a way to bump their numbers so they can sell advertising on Meta.
Did you see the video of the guy who broke the female AI influencer on there?
What do you mean broke it?
Just turned it into an uber racist.
phil labonte
That happens with every AI. As soon as word gets out that there's an AI, the trolls are like, alright, let's go start uploading Hitler stuff.
unidentified
The boomers can't handle the AI images, though.
They can't recognize it.
It breaks their mind and they love it, though.
They'll post like, What politician was it when there was flooding or something, and she posted a picture of a girl holding a teddy bear, and it was an AI-generated photo, and people were like, yeah, this is AI, and she refused to recognize it for a bit.
I don't remember.
But the boomers, the AI's a disaster for them.
It's a total disaster for them.
phil labonte
It's okay, though, because they're boomers.
We love them.
We do love them.
It's normal for older people to struggle with technology.
I think partially that's because they don't expose themselves to it as much as younger people do.
People kind of get set in their ways and they're just like, you know, I'm going to do this.
I mean, I'm definitely of the age where a lot of my peers are like not particularly...
Yeah, savvy with technology because of, I think, what I do and because of, you know, kind of like my lifestyle and stuff.
I am more savvy than the average person that's my age.
But I imagine that it'll come in time.
unidentified
Yeah, we're all going to go through it.
There's going to be something that happens that makes us all able to handle it.
tim pool
Something very important I want everybody to know.
And this could actually help you in your day-to-day life today.
As we enter this AI future...
I'd like you just to remember this question to ask if ever you are confused and wondering if you're dealing with an AI. You say, you're in a desert walking along in the sand when you suddenly spot a tortoise lying on its back, its belly baking in the hot sun.
It's struggling, trying to turn itself over, but it can't.
You're not helping it.
unidentified
Why?
tim pool
That's a very important question.
phil labonte
I mean...
I kind of feel like I would help it.
unidentified
Yeah, why wouldn't you help it?
tim pool
That's interesting.
How about, let's try another one.
Let's try this.
Describe in single words only the good things that come into your mind about your mother.
phil labonte
Oh, sweet, fun, funny.
Interesting, indeed.
tim pool
You're watching television and suddenly realize there's a wasp crawling on your arm.
phil labonte
I'm having a bad day.
Anxiety?
brett dasovic
I feel like I'm falling into the, but you did eat breakfast trap right now.
tim pool
It's your birthday and someone gives you a calfskin wallet.
How do you react?
phil labonte
I mean, I personally don't...
tim pool
But Chet knows exactly what I'm doing.
You guys are in trouble.
phil labonte
I don't.
tim pool
You guys are in trouble.
You're going to be owned by the robots.
They're going to walk up to you and you're going to say, you know, I will do anything you say, robot overlord.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, the context is I'm here with someone that I know, so it's a little different, but why?
Go ahead.
tim pool
It's from Blade Runner.
phil labonte
Oh, is it really?
tim pool
It's the replicant test.
phil labonte
Oh, okay, okay, okay.
tim pool
To see if they were human or not.
You ask them these questions, you know, that's what you gotta do.
You know.
phil labonte
So like a Turing test for AI. But the answers, are the answers dictating whether or not...
tim pool
The point of the test is not that there's a right answer.
It's how you react to it.
You know what?
A better example?
I really love this scene in Sherlock Holmes.
What is it?
unidentified
Johnny...
tim pool
The Game of Shadows or whatever the last...
brett dasovic
The second one.
The second one.
tim pool
Yeah, they're trying to find a guy who's gotten surgery to look like some, you know, government official.
And they're like, how do we do it?
Like, people are just at a party.
And then Watson says, it's not that we're trying to find someone who's acting abnormally.
It's that...
Someone who can't react abnormally.
And so he hits a tray of drinks, causing the drinks to shatter, and then the normal reaction everybody has is shock, but the one guy desperately trying to hold it together doesn't react because he doesn't know how he's supposed to fake a reaction to this.
And so that's how they find him.
My point is, we got a lot of NPCs in politics.
And now we've got AI profiles, dead internet theory.
This is the scariest thing.
I'd be willing to bet my friends.
90%, maybe not 90, but maybe around that, 90% of the people who you talk to on social media aren't real.
brett dasovic
At least as far as reactions, likes, and responses to the stuff that you post.
tim pool
Well, there was a story I saw a while ago, I don't know how true it is, that Facebook was going to intentionally, you brought this up.
brett dasovic
That was the point, yeah.
tim pool
They were intentionally creating fake profiles to interact with you.
brett dasovic
The AI profiles were being taught language models so that they would interact with you because it helps bolster ad revenue because they can start selling ads on all of their stuff, yeah.
And even that, they're not disclosing that to these companies, right?
tim pool
The crazy thing too is that...
For a couple of years now, there are fake female influencers.
brett dasovic
They're advertised that way too.
People like the new generation, Gen Z and Gen Alpha, they actually follow them knowing that they're fake because they live their whole lives behind a screen.
They don't actually care.
tim pool
This is wild.
But I remember there was one meme.
There was a meme and it was a clearly AI woman.
And there was just like a Facebook profile of like a late 50s guy.
With, like, a white mustache.
And then he said, like, you're so beautiful.
And people were like, this is sad, man.
unidentified
Yeah, you look at the comments section of any of these, like, they pop up on Instagram of, like, these fake AI women.
And the comments are just totally just dudes just all in love with them.
tim pool
But here's the terrifying reality.
What if?
So I know there's people watching this show.
How do I know?
Well, like, I meet them in real life.
So I know there's actually people who watch.
What happens when, in five years, People are like, oh, I love Timcast IRL. I watch that show all the time.
Yeah, it's the 734th biggest podcast in the world.
But I watch it sometimes.
What's the biggest podcast in the world?
Oh, it's, you know, Jack Smith and Friends.
And then this podcast, Jack Smith and Friends, gets 17 million views per episode.
All of the views come from AI profiles that were created by big corporations for one reason or another.
So nobody is actually watching the show.
But advertisers buy on the show.
The AI profiles promote the products because they're AI designed to talk about what was on the show.
And this person with zero influence is the biggest show in the world and makes tons of money.
unidentified
You're seeing that on like X and Instagram.
And this has been happening forever where people would buy followers, right?
You can go on a website and you can buy Instagram followers.
And it was always a giveaway because somebody would have like 10,000 followers on their Instagram page and they'd have like two likes on a post, right?
tim pool
You see that now currently on X. There's a few people out there who run podcasts, and when people ask me, it's like, have you ever gone to this person's show?
I just respond with, no, but I'm really impressed when someone has the ability to get half a million views on a podcast with seven comments.
And then they go, huh?
And I'm like, nothing.
You know, just no big deal.
But here's the reality.
You'll notice that there are a lot of people, and maybe we should be doing it.
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
There are a lot of people who like to post their numbers publicly.
They'll tweet out, like...
Look at us.
Look at our rankings.
Look at our viewership.
Look at our numbers.
And it's clout building.
And so there are a lot of podcasts out there that lie about their audience size, but it doesn't matter.
Because with that lie, they're able to book big names.
unidentified
Yeah, you fake it till you make it.
tim pool
Or just fake it.
That's it.
Because these shows still aren't big.
But there are some shows, you'll see a clip pop up, and I'm like, how did they book this actor or whatever?
And then I can see that they've got huge numbers on their podcasts, but no comments, no likes, no interactions.
And when they, like, these talent agencies, when they have celebrities and they have high-profile people, they don't know or care.
They get a press kit and a request saying, we have a podcast with, insert however many million followers, our average video gets X many views, would you like to come on the show?
And they go, this would be huge.
And then I talk to some of these people.
And I say, you actually went on those shows?
And they'll be like, yeah, I mean, they're big, right?
And I'm like, no.
And they're like, but they get tons of views.
And I was like, it's amazing that you actually went out and went on a show without doing any research.
And they're like, well, how are we supposed to know?
Like, my guy plays golf.
He doesn't build media companies.
We just saw that this guy gets millions of views, and I was like, indeed he does.
Indeed he does.
brett dasovic
I mean, it's even worse now in the age of, like, the Zoom interview, where they'll go on channels that have not even, like, the fake views, right?
Not even, like, the fake engagement.
They'll just do that because there are what are called approved media outlets for a lot of these people to cover, so it's getting worse.
unidentified
You see this a lot, though, with, like, organizations, and it'll be like, an organization has a really fancy name, and the guy will introduce himself, he's like, I'm the president, CEO, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and it's like, you've got one employee, dude.
Like, what are you doing with this title, you know?
tim pool
Yeah, you know, that was always funny to me, because I remember when I first started working with my buddies to make businesses, and my friend was like, I'll be the chief operating officer, and I was like, really?
I was like, is that how that works?
And they're like, yeah.
And I was like, you just say you are?
And they're like, yeah.
And then I was like, and then I remember when I got hired at Fusion, I was like, they were like, you know, we'll have you as a senior correspondent.
I was like, nah, I want to be a director.
And they're like, okay.
And so they just made my job title a director.
brett dasovic
Give you a name tag that says director on it.
tim pool
And I was like, doesn't director have like some kind of managerial implications?
And they were like, yeah, but you won't have any staff, so it won't matter.
And I was like, yeah, let's go.
phil labonte
So it won't matter.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
But there's a lot of these companies work because when you say that, like, I was a director of Insert Project for a couple years, they go, oh, wow, oh, geez.
And so everybody's just lying about their titles.
And so then me and my buddies, once we made jokes that our titles were like absolutely insane, like senior vice president of directorial management and overseeing the chief executive suite and like foreign relations.
brett dasovic
It's for the LinkedIn of it all so they can get their next job.
unidentified
Yeah, these companies don't check that.
They don't check that at all.
tim pool
Yeah, there was some big scandal where people, a guy using AI to create a resume.
And it was like getting picked up.
Because they use AI to search through all the resumes to pick who it was, he exploited their AI. And what he did was he made a resume and then took all of the buzzwords that were required by the algorithm and put them in white text, super tiny in the bottom corner.
So when the resume was scanned by the company's AI, it saw all of the words it was programmed to look for and brought his resume to the top.
And said he was the best candidate, and the company was like, the program says he's the guy, and that he just gamed the system.
unidentified
Yeah, people are doing that with their websites.
If you don't want your website harvested from AI or Google search results, they'll hide an F-bomb in it so it doesn't get picked up.
tim pool
Let's jump to this next story, ladies and gentlemen.
We have a tweet from Doge.
It simply says, unburdened by what has been.
phil labonte
Can't stop waiting.
tim pool
And it is before U.S. Agency for International Development and an after.
And the sign has been removed.
We have this video here.
And wokeness says, directly into my veins.
And it is a man on a cherry picker removing the title from the building.
And you can see that the name has been removed from the building, I guess, what do you call it?
Like, sign, I guess?
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
USA Today says, USAID signs pulled from HQ as judge puts limited block on Trump bid to dismantle agency.
Well, I'm pretty sure he already did.
So they can, the judges can do all of this stuff, but Trump can move at lightning speed.
And you know what?
I'm here for it.
When Cuomo was shutting down churches and they sued and the judge said, you can't do that, he went, okay, crumbled up the executive order, signed another one and said, sue that.
And it's not literally what he did, but that's what he was doing.
So even though the judges were like, this is unconstitutional, he says, I can sign an executive order faster than you can sue me.
So if that's the game they want to play and Trump is doing it to shut down the deep state slush fund.
Then, okay.
Look, I said this before.
I'm not going to cry when the Democrats, they said this my whole life.
Oh, if we stop them from doing insert thing, one day they'll use this against us.
It was a big deal with the filibuster.
They were like, oh, they got rid of the filibuster.
It's going to come back to bite them.
And I'm like, so Democrats do evil thing.
And the response is, but if we stop evil thing, maybe in the future evil thing will happen to us.
And I'm like, but they're literally doing it right now.
If we don't stop them from using USAID, or it's like if we use the force of government to shut down USAID, when they get in power, they'll do something.
And I'm like, they are using this machine of evil to destroy our lives.
And you're worried about the evil that may come after the evil destroys us.
unidentified
Republicans have suffered from this historically, not using the power they get when they win their election.
brett dasovic
Yeah, they're terrified.
unidentified
Yeah, they're terrified.
brett dasovic
They're terrified to use their power whenever they're in office because there's a media apparatus that will frame every single thing they do in the worst possible light, which is how they've changed, at least in the past, before the internet, how they framed public perception of them as this inherently evil party because every time they say, They do exactly to them what you're accused of doing, which is what the left has done for a long time.
So Republicans are afraid to do it back because they feel like they're going to get labeled a certain way, which then they do by press that's in cahoots with Democrat donors and organizations.
And they never use their power and they always snatch victory from the jaws of defeat.
Snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
tim pool
Well, Trump ain't – No, no.
Trump is like, I'm going to burn it down.
brett dasovic
It's because he doesn't care, right?
That's the whole point.
And people have been looking forward to this.
We were talking about Seamus's sketch yesterday where he's playing the video where like, Trump did this.
Aren't you sad you voted Republican?
They're like, no, like, I'm sad.
I guess I'm sad for every time I voted for Republican before and they didn't do it.
phil labonte
Wait, wait, wait.
tim pool
I got to shout out Freedom Tunes.
It's all of these leftists.
There's a guy in a MAGA hat.
And they're like, oh, no, Trump is deporting tons of people.
You must regret your vote now.
And he's like, no, I'm actually pretty happy about it.
And then they throw up some more things.
And they're like, I bet you regret voting Republican now.
And he goes, well, now that I know it's possible to do this, I regret voting for every other Republican.
But here's I don't want to ruin the punchline, but the ending.
Is masterfully done.
You need to go to Freedom Tunes and watch the one because the twist ending.
I'm not going to spoil it.
You're going to laugh your ass off.
phil labonte
The way that people are behaving towards the government, I think it really speaks to the different way that people kind of conceive of the government.
Trump's going after everything because he doesn't think anything of the government's sacred.
It's all just...
Is it functional or is it not functional?
Is it fit for purpose or is it not fit for purpose?
Just because it's a part of the government doesn't mean it's sacred.
The people on the left...
Now granted, there are some that are worried about their pocketbooks, right?
The USAID is just a slush fund.
It's a money laundering scheme.
There are...
Out of all the stuff that I've heard that Doge has focused on, there is absolutely nothing that it does that is necessary for the United States.
Absolutely nothing.
And it spends $50 billion a year, if I understand correctly.
David Sachs was talking about it.
I was listening to the All In podcast this morning.
And David Sachs was talking about the amount of money that...
The USAID spent was $50 billion a year.
That's a lot of money.
And there is nothing that it needs, like nothing that it does that sounds, to me, at all necessary.
So the idea that this is some kind of sacred cow is held on the left.
There are people that are knee-jerk reactions, that have a knee-jerk reaction to it, and then there are people that are actually getting rich off of it.
If you drive to Washington, D.C. from here, you'll go through a part of Virginia where Langley is.
There's one of the routes that will take you literally right by the entrance to the CIA headquarters.
There are literal palaces.
Oh, bro.
There are some of the most opulent and extravagant homes that I've ever seen in my life.
And I've been to Calabasas.
I've been to Pacific Palisades in California.
I've hung out with wealthy producers and wealthy rock stars.
And I've seen Kanye's house.
I haven't seen Kanye's house.
There's a gate in Calabasas where the Kardashians live.
But either way, I've seen...
I've seen the neighborhood, right?
I've seen the beautiful homes out there.
And the homes in and around Langley, Virginia, are literal palaces.
They are absolute.
They're totally opulent, totally extravagant.
And all of that money is being extracted from the U.S. taxpayers.
tim pool
Not just that.
I mean, you've got Tyson's.
phil labonte
Yep.
tim pool
You've got, what's the name?
Is it Potomac?
You've got Reston.
It's beautiful.
phil labonte
Just go driving to D.C. You go through the wine country here, and there's all these vineyards that are privately owned by people that likely made their money in Washington, D.C. That was actually something I thought was interesting to bring up.
brett dasovic
I was going to say, what was interesting was that you go through a lot of them.
Right?
So when you go through farmland, there were Trump signs everywhere.
When you go through vineyards, there were Biden-Harris signs on every single one of the entrances.
Absolutely.
unidentified
Yep.
phil labonte
You know, I mean, the small houses in that area are, you know, one, two million dollars.
tim pool
Oh, man.
phil labonte
A two million dollar home, that's a nice house.
unidentified
Yep.
phil labonte
You know, and they're...
They're big houses, and they're in a neighborhood, but they've got a decent amount of land between their houses.
You know, they're on probably three, four acre lots, but they're gorgeous.
tim pool
I heard they're building a casino in Tyson's.
Bro, anybody who's been to the D.C. area, go to the Tyson's Galleria.
And so, I think that's the place, right?
brett dasovic
A mall out there?
tim pool
Yeah, but it's not a mall for any regular human being.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
I was like, where's the greasy cheeseburger hole in the wall?
And it's like everything is like designer handbags.
There is a Brunswick downstairs, and that was fun.
But it's the best Brunswick I've ever been to.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Bowling and pizza.
And they have all the fun games.
They have the arcade acts throwing.
But, you know, we were like, let's go to the mall.
And we went there, and I was like, there's nothing of use in this mall.
It's just like all super high-end, expensive clothes and bags.
brett dasovic
Who comes here?
tim pool
Yeah, it's just weird.
brett dasovic
Politicians and lobbyists.
That's who goes there.
tim pool
Yeah, man.
Reston's beautiful, too.
These areas are—look, man, we went to Reston to get food, and in City Center, they were doing a Disney musical singing thing where, like, there were a bunch of people all sitting in this beautiful park.
It's very well kept.
Everything is clean.
There's no litter.
And then they were singing Disney songs, and it was some of the best singing I've ever heard.
And I was just like, this is the capital of the Hunger Games.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
This is where they strip the money from the working class and fuel their ridiculous, opulent lives.
I love that word, by the way, Phil.
Good choice of words.
phil labonte
Thank you.
My ex-wife used to work in Tyson's when she worked for Palantir.
The offices are gorgeous, and they have catering all the time, and they had this big Lego Death Star, and it was this whole nerds with endless money.
And it's in this beautiful office building, and all the malls around are gorgeous, and that's just in the business area.
The houses out there, it's ridiculous how gorgeous these things are.
And again, this is all money extracted from the American people.
tim pool
Loudoun County, baby!
brett dasovic
Yeah, Loudoun County.
And a lot of the people who work for the weapons companies are all out there as well.
phil labonte
Yeah, you know, I honestly, this is going to sound a little, this is actually going to sound neoconny, but I have less hate for the people that contract with DOD than I do with people that are working with USAID.
Because USAID is pushing an ideology.
At least the people that are working with DOD and contracting with DOD, at the very least there is a constitutional mandate for the federal government to defend the country.
brett dasovic
Also think of what you were saying about how- There's no federal mandate for trans- The anger that you said that people are feeling for tearing down USAID because the people on the left do have this...
They treat the government as a savior to them.
And that's why they were in a lot of ways so offended by what happened on January 6th because they felt that their cathedral was actually being attacked because they see the government as above all else.
And if you start looking at it that way, you start to understand why their mania for government is so strong.
tim pool
McLean, Virginia.
I don't want to pull these up because I'm looking up Zillow.
brett dasovic
Where's the mall out there with Medieval Times?
That one's good.
tim pool
I don't want to show Medieval Times.
brett dasovic
That one's for me.
tim pool
I have the mall with Medieval Times?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
That's just in...
No, no, that's what you call it.
brett dasovic
I forget that town name.
tim pool
Arendelle Mills or whatever?
brett dasovic
That's my tax bracket.
I can afford that.
tim pool
But that place is amazing.
Medieval Times is massive.
brett dasovic
And it's around rather than up.
It's crazy.
tim pool
Yeah, but, like, that mall is ridiculously massive.
There's also the Maryland Live, and then there's Dave& Buster's, and there's, you know, Bass Pro Shops.
It's an insanely massive shopping center.
It's always super packed.
They got great Korean barbecue.
phil labonte
I love Korean barbecue.
tim pool
It's the best thing ever.
phil labonte
It is.
tim pool
It's like they bring you raw meat, and they're like, it cooks in front of you, and then you eat it, and I'm like, so I'll say no more.
Like, I don't need anything special.
They don't come over, and they do the pepper, you know, and it's nothing fancy.
Although the kimchi is pretty good.
Man, I'm looking at the...
I remember driving through, I think it was McLean, and just...
It's crazy because I'm driving past all these houses as we're driving back from D.C., and I'm just thinking to myself, what does this person do to afford such a house?
It is insanity to me.
It's genuinely crazy.
unidentified
Transsexual drum lessons in Africa.
phil labonte
Anyone that's watching, if you want, you can go ahead and just like, you can go into Google Maps and look at Langley, Virginia.
You can bring up, you can see the CIA headquarters.
Look at the houses surrounding it.
Look at the absolute monstrosities that are around the CIA headquarters.
They're gigantic.
You know, a couple miles around.
tim pool
Is Langley...
Its own city, or is that McLean?
phil labonte
I think it's...
I'm not...
Actually, I'm not sure.
tim pool
I typed Langley into Zillow, and it pulls up McLean.
phil labonte
That could be it, then.
tim pool
No, I don't think that's where Langley is, is it?
That's further south, I thought.
I don't know.
Whatever.
All I know is the wealthiest places in the world surround D.C., and they ain't building cars.
brett dasovic
Nope.
tim pool
No, they're doing...
brett dasovic
No, they're taking your money.
tim pool
Yeah.
brett dasovic
They're taking your money.
tim pool
Indeed.
Here's a $40 million house.
Oh, my God.
brett dasovic
They're taking your money and not giving it to people in Hawaii or North Carolina.
tim pool
Let me tell you a story, right?
So the story of the castle, our first studio, was that the family that lived, it used to be a very small, like, two-bedroom house, and there was a fire.
And so this is what they told us.
They got insurance money, and then with the insurance money...
They built a massive house, a 10,000 square foot house, and then instantly regretted building just a massive house and then sold it and moved.
And, you know, so I asked one of the family members, what was wrong with you guys, a family of five and a 10,000 square foot house?
I mean, it sounds like a lot of space.
And they said the wife would be upstairs and yell to the kids and they couldn't hear her.
So she'd walk around this 10,000 square foot property trying to find out where the kids were, and she couldn't find out where they were, and she got really frustrated and annoyed.
Not to mention, if you don't go into one part of the house and a pipe bursts, and you don't notice it because you haven't gone in there in three days, when you're in a small house, you notice these things.
You go to the basement, do your laundry, pipe bursts, you're like, uh-oh.
You go back upstairs to the kitchen.
But they ended up building this big house, regretted it, and said, we can't live like this.
And I'm like, I learned that lesson a long time ago.
I rented a big house.
I think it would be really cool to have a big house and a big property.
And then one of the rooms had a bunch of spiders, cobwebs, dirt, garbage.
And I was like, yo, this sucks.
unidentified
Just sealed the room forever.
tim pool
Yeah, so now my house right now is like 1,500 square feet.
I'm like, I don't want to live in a big house.
So I look at these mansions.
People need to understand about these mansions.
Like I'm looking at one in McLean right now.
It's $40 million.
It's 14,000 square feet.
You legit need a staff.
You need to hire a house of that size.
It's probably going to need two or three people.
Because you need it to be checked every day.
Someone's going to have to go with a checklist into every room every day to make sure that the window didn't break, the window sealed, bugs didn't get in, and it's going to cost you.
That's a salary.
And the reason I have more than one is because people need days off, and they can only work in the morning.
Or they can only work an eight-hour shift.
They're not going to work 16 hours a day.
You can maybe have someone live in service, and then they live there, and you're hoping that by living there.
So I'm just wondering, What kind of person wants to live that way?
I just don't get it.
That's crazy to me.
When I see these houses in Virginia and stuff, I'm like, who would want to live there?
brett dasovic
The worst part is a lot of them are claiming living in a life of public service.
They're attached to government, which means you shouldn't.
It's awful.
phil labonte
The idea that some of the most lucrative jobs in the world are in...
Somehow connected to the government?
That's a bad thing.
tim pool
Well, you know, I went to Wellington, New Zealand.
I think that's the name of it.
And when I asked the locals, so, like, what's the industry of Wellington?
They said government.
The only reason the city exists is because they tax the people in Auckland and then use the money to set up Wellington.
unidentified
Like Chicago.
tim pool
Is that what Chicago is?
unidentified
It's all government.
Everybody works government.
tim pool
Oh, wow.
unidentified
Raising the tax dollars.
tim pool
What does Chicago produce?
phil labonte
A long time ago, they produced organized crime.
tim pool
Yeah, but I mean, Chicago is part of the Rust Belt.
So I think it's a great question that y'all out there can ask.
If you ever go to a city, ask what the city's industry is and where does the money come from.
unidentified
Someone brought up the other day that there's not a lot of famous people that live in Chicago.
tim pool
I think Barstool is in Chicago now, right?
phil labonte
Yeah, there's probably a lot of shipping so you can get into the Great Lakes and then that stuff can kind of...
Get through the Midwest that way.
So I think that there's probably imports and exports and shipping and stuff like that.
I don't know exactly.
brett dasovic
That's why there's so many toll roads.
tim pool
I would say 15, 20 years ago and before, Chicago being a very large city but still isolated from the ports was culturally limited.
And so most of the people that I knew from Chicago wanted to get out as soon as possible.
The funny thing about Chicago is it's a very big city.
And there are things that are famous in Chicago that are famous nowhere else, and it's weird to me.
I remember growing up in Chicago.
I leave.
I go all over.
I remember I went to New York for the first time, and I went to a bodega, and I said, can I get a roast beef and cheddar with giardiniera?
And the guy was like, and what?
And I was like, roast beef and cheddar sub with giardiniera.
And he's like, sub?
And I was like, a sub?
And he's like, we don't have that.
And I was like, a long sandwich?
He goes, a hero?
And I was like, yeah.
Okay, roast beef and cheddar hero with giardiniera.
And he goes, bro, I don't know what that word is.
And I was like, what?
And then I asked everybody, it was like being in the Twilight Zone.
In Chicago, every store everywhere serves giardiniera.
And you get on your pizza, you get on your sandwiches, and it's the best thing ever.
Then you leave Chicago.
There are a bunch of bands that are famous in Chicago that no one's ever heard of.
It's an isolated little space.
But what's changed now, Chicago's become very viable in the internet era.
It doesn't matter where you live anymore.
As long as you got good internet.
So I think Barstool is in Chicago now because you probably get cheap rates.
The problem I would have, because I would love, the Chicagoland area is actually really great.
O'Hare is a major travel hub and it's easy to access from single flights.
Whereas if you go to a smaller city, you have to buy, you know, it's going to have to be a connecting flight for most people.
With Chicago, it's a hub.
The problem with Chicago is it's basically as corrupt as corrupt can be.
One of the most corrupt places I've ever been to.
They have the police operate black sites.
They will they will like they will wrongfully arrest arrest you.
And famously, in Chicago, there's a guy who would electrocute people into false confessions.
And rest assured, even if you are famous and well known.
They'll plant drugs on you and destroy your life.
It is deeply corrupt, and I would stay that away from that city.
brett dasovic
It's like North Minneapolis when all the stuff that was going on with George Floyd.
I'm like, yeah, that was bad, but Minneapolis cops have been corrupt for years, so that's not shocking to me.
And Minnesota's kind of the same way.
There's a lot of major, like Target is located in the Twin Cities, or 3M, and the city I grew up in was Woodbury, so they put 3M in East St. Paul, but nobody who came there to work wanted to work.
So just to clarify, Barstool's headquarters is New York, but they have a significant presence in Chicago, like particularly significant, which I wish Chicago was not corrupt.
unidentified
It's never going to happen.
Not in our lifetime.
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
Deeply racially segregated.
Like, bro, where I grew up, you cross Cicero and, like, everything's Hispanic.
You cross 47th, everything's black.
It's like, the white people live here, the Latinos are here, and the black people are here, and you can't cross the line.
Now, the funny thing is, crossing Cicero, this would be to the east, going west to east.
Nobody really cared.
None of the Latinos, the Hispanics, the migrants had any problem with white people or Asians or even black people.
You'd go there.
You'd go to the restaurants.
It was totally fine.
But crossing 47th to the north into the black neighborhoods, you're going to get beat up or you're going to get arrested or detained.
The cops would drive up, grab you, and say, there's no reason for a person.
Latino, Asian, or white person to be in a black neighborhood, you must be buying drugs.
That's legit what would happen every time.
Almost nobody would ever cross.
However, if the black people from that neighborhood, and I'm not talking about regular people, I'm saying if like criminal elements of either side, if a criminal gangbanger on the Latino side went to the black neighborhood, the cops stop it immediately.
However...
If the black criminal elements would go from the racially segregated area to the north into the other areas, the cops were like, we can't do anything about it because we'll be called racist.
So you had this really weird, racist, racially segregated dynamic in the city.
It's a crazy way to grow up, man.
unidentified
The black community is getting frustrated with their mayor, though, because Chicago is a black mayor now.
Lightfoot's out, right?
And the new guy's arguably worse.
I was watching, my father still lives in Chicago, and he sent me this video from a city council meeting.
And this black woman gets up, and she's like, Just lighting into the mirror because they're upset that all their funding and everything is going to illegals.
It's going to Hispanics.
tim pool
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
unidentified
Right?
And so they're furious with it.
She called him the N-word at a same time.
Whoa!
I was like, whoa, this is insane.
tim pool
Right?
They were screaming, we are being replaced.
They were protesting, chanting that they were being replaced.
And it was funny because I don't know if Tucker commented on it, but we talked about it when it happened.
And I was like, I thought when Tucker...
Said Americans were being replaced by illegal immigrants.
They called him racist.
But now you have the black community in Chicago saying it.
Where's the corporate press?
Come on.
Call him racist.
Call him white supremacist.
Call it a conspiracy theory.
But I'll tell you what's really crazy.
I don't know if you saw this.
If you take a look at the district map by how they voted and put it next to a racial demographic map, people in Chicago, probably 80%, voted for their candidate based on their race.
That's just it.
That's the only reason.
unidentified
You see that everywhere.
tim pool
There was only one area of Chicago that didn't vote for the...
Okay.
Each area of Chicago, the racial majority district voted for the candidate who matched their race.
One neighborhood did not do this.
What neighborhood do you think it was?
unidentified
White neighborhood.
tim pool
Which one?
unidentified
Oh, I don't know.
tim pool
Loyola.
The North...
Young college area near Loyola, which is predominantly white, voted for Brandon Johnson.
And so when you look at the voting map in Chicago, the Latino, the Hispanic neighborhood, voted for the Hispanic candidate.
The white neighborhoods voted for the white candidate.
And the black neighborhoods voted for the black candidate.
And there's no escaping that that happened.
You can make up any reason you want, it literally happened.
Except Loyola, where it's largely young white people.
Voted for a black candidate.
And that's why you ended up with Brandon Johnson.
phil labonte
And you do know that those people think they're better than everyone else because they did that, too.
unidentified
Yeah, they'll brag about it.
They'll say, oh, I voted.
phil labonte
Yes, I am better than you because I didn't...
I'm not...
I do not have a local affinity or whatever.
unidentified
Wasn't there some YouTube video where they took people from every race and they asked them if they felt pride in their race?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And the white guy was the only one that was like...
I feel shame for being white, but the Asians, the Mexicans, the blacks, they were all super prideful.
tim pool
So white people are the only group with a racial out-group preference, and it's predominantly among liberals.
And so this creates a broken pressure system in politics.
Look, man, you want to cry about it all day and night?
I'm right here with you.
It is a bad thing that in Chicago...
Every district voted based on race.
I think that's a bad thing.
I think this is going to lead to racial tensions, racism, racial animosity, all of that stuff.
But when you have white liberals with an out-group preference, what's going to happen then is the Asian neighborhoods, the Hispanic neighborhoods, the black neighborhoods are going to have in-group preference, meaning when it comes time to vote, they are going to vote against other racial groups.
I'm saying straight up, Latino groups vote.
For only their neighborhood and their interests and against black, Asian, white or otherwise.
Every racial group does this and then whites vote against themselves.
So who's going to end up on the bottom end of all of these policies?
It's going to be the white people.
unidentified
And to your point, it's so extreme.
In Texas, we have a city in North Dallas, and there was a race, and there was an Asian woman who was a Democrat and an Asian woman who was a Republican.
And the Asian community voted.
One was running for mayor, one was running for city council place.
And the Asian community voted for both, even though they were completely opposite ideologies.
It's because they're Asian.
Right?
tim pool
It's very deep.
You know, people say demographics are destiny.
Ro Khanna, when he was on the show a couple weeks ago, said that the leftist dream of this multicultural, globalist society failed, and we were wrong.
And I was like, whoa!
And he said, we thought it was going to lift everybody up and create this utopia, and all it did was gut the working class.
And I said...
Yes!
Like, wow, that's Ro Khai.
He's a Democrat.
brett dasovic
That's why people were talking about the dangers of critical theory for so long, right?
Is that it uniquely attacked white in-group preference because so many white Americans were taught to feel shame about their own background.
tim pool
What an insane reality to live in where, like, look.
I don't like any racial supremacists, okay?
Like, bro, if you want to come to me and tell me that you think you're better because of your race, I'm going to show you everyone I can of a different race who's more successful than you are.
Perseverance is all that matters.
You've got people who emigrate from Nigeria, and as they say, like, on average, they make more money and are more successful than your average American of any other race.
The argument is...
The people from Nigeria who have the merit and the ability and make the money and then can afford to leave are the best, the cream of the crop.
They come to this country and they succeed.
Clearly, there's no issue with them being black.
They found more success than any other race.
brett dasovic
Which is why legal immigration was actually a unifying factor for a long period of time because when they came to America, they were desirous to move here because they believed in what we stood for and we knew that we were getting the ones that were going to work the hardest to get ahead.
tim pool
That's why legal immigration is a good thing That's why illegal immigration is a bad thing.
And I partly blame Ronald Reagan for his amnesty.
I mean, that dude, it's remarkable.
unidentified
The most overrated.
tim pool
Oh, dude, I can't.
Look, I am flabbergasted by these boomer cons who are like, Reagan was the best.
And I was like, what about illegal immigration amnesty, no-fault divorce, gun control?
I mean, the list goes on.
What about all of those things are you happy about?
unidentified
Yeah, and you ask them and their brain breaks.
They don't even know how to argue.
tim pool
Carter was so bad.
And I wasn't alive at the time.
But my presumption on all this is Carter was so miserably bad that when Reagan reversed the bad by, I guess, just relative principle, he appeared really good.
And so they were like, Reagan was the best.
And I'm like...
brett dasovic
Well, they missed the time, not the actual policies.
Right?
tim pool
You know, there's this funny story that I've probably told 800 million times, but there's a...
I can't remember which airport it was.
It might have been Texas.
They thought it'd be really great and convenient if right when you come out of the gate and land, your baggage claim is right there.
unidentified
At DFW, yeah.
tim pool
It was DFW? Yeah.
They said, isn't it annoying when you land and you've got to walk across the entire airport to get your bag?
Let's just put the baggage claim right there.
Guess what happened?
People got off their plane, stood next to the baggage claim, had to wait 10 or 15 minutes, and started complaining.
Saying, why is it taking so long to get my bags?
And they were like, because the bags have to come to the thing.
So they figured out the solution.
The solution was, they moved the baggage claim to the other side of the airport.
So it took you 10 minutes to walk there, but then your bags were coming out right when you got there.
unidentified
It's still like that, though, a little bit.
I mean, you know, I'll land and then, yeah, you're waiting around.
You're on your phone waiting.
tim pool
It's true.
unidentified
But like you land, like when I was coming here, you land and, you know, the baggage claim is like super far.
And you're busy.
You're walking.
You're checking your phone.
You're making a phone call.
So you don't realize that you've been waiting because you're moving.
You're doing something in between.
tim pool
And so that's the issue.
That when it comes to someone like Reagan, things were so bad that when it got kind of a little bit better, they were like, he's the greatest president ever.
brett dasovic
Also, there was a lot more American unification at that time.
The idea of the American dream was still pretty...
Intact, and it's just not that anymore, and they long for those times.
unidentified
People struggle to describe what American culture is now.
Because, you know, to immigration, people that immigrate here don't immigrate here because we have freedom of speech.
They don't, generally.
They don't immigrate here because we have gun rights or freedom of press.
They immigrate here because of the economy.
tim pool
Buffalo Wild Wings.
phil labonte
Not just the economy.
unidentified
I think Wingstop's better.
tim pool
No, during the caravan.
In, like, four years ago, or this is during Trump, I think.
brett dasovic
Eight years ago now.
tim pool
Well, this particular instance was probably, like, 2019 or something.
L.A. Times asked one of the people in the migrant caravan why they were coming to the U.S., and he said, I miss Buffalo Wild Wings.
I gotta admit, B-dubs is awesome, bro.
It is one of my favorite places.
unidentified
I think Wingstop's a lot better.
tim pool
Wingstop's okay, but I'm a B-dubs guy.
I will, I mean...
Oh, I love Buffalo Wild Wings.
The garlic Parmesan sauce is so good, although it's probably just seed oils.
brett dasovic
You'd cross a country for it.
tim pool
But Mexico has B-dubs, man.
I made it a point when I went to Mexico City to find a Buffalo Wild Wings, and I did, and it was great.
unidentified
Did it taste the same?
brett dasovic
Yes.
unidentified
Most of the Wild Wings.
Mexico's different, though.
It's like KFC, for example.
KFC in the U.S. isn't very good, in my opinion.
But in Japan, it's amazing.
Yes.
tim pool
Did you have the corn ice cream?
unidentified
No, I didn't have that.
tim pool
Yeah, they have corn ice cream in Japan.
phil labonte
Everything is amazing in Japan.
When All That Remains would go to Japan and tour, you would set up your crew or the band would set up your stuff, and then the local crew would come out with tape measures, and they would measure everything.
Everything.
Where things are.
And if you had, like, two waters and a beer, the next day, when everything was set up again, they would use the tape measures to make sure everything was the same distance, and then the next day you would have two waters and a beer.
Like, they are meticulous, because in Japan, it seems like they don't have a phrase for close enough.
It's either right or it's wrong.
Now, I don't know for sure, but like we were talking earlier about, like, you have to have a concept for it.
I think they're just like, it's either right or it's wrong.
tim pool
I'm not sure where I was.
It might have been Shibuya, but there was a parking garage, and it is a corridor.
There's a big circular space and nothing else, and your car goes on it.
You get out, then it spins and goes down, and it then slides your car into a slot.
unidentified
That wouldn't happen here in the US. Somebody would break it day one.
phil labonte
They have the janky version in New York.
tim pool
Yeah, where it lifts your car up?
unidentified
That's crazy.
phil labonte
And you're always worried.
tim pool
You ever see the Carvana things?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Where there's a tower?
Yeah, and there's just cars parked all over.
brett dasovic
It just looks like the most poorly designed thing ever, but it's actually kind of cool looking.
tim pool
Dude, Japan is where it's at.
When I went, I went with Luke, and we went to Tokyo, and then made our way up to Fukushima.
And we stopped at some hole-in-the-wall karaoke bar that you are sitting shoulder-to-shoulder with a bunch of Japanese people all just singing songs.
And I sang that song from Aladdin, Whole New World, with this Japanese woman.
Dude, it was amazing.
Japan, they know what's up.
They're also kind of weird, but it's okay.
unidentified
That's what makes it exciting.
phil labonte
Of all the places, I've been, you know, me and Tim has too, but I've been all over the world, and out of all the places that are not America.
Japan's my favorite.
It's absolutely amazing.
The people are great.
Everything is...
It's like everywhere seems like it's clean.
unidentified
And safe.
phil labonte
Yeah.
Everywhere feels safe.
You don't feel like you're...
I mean, you don't feel like you're...
unidentified
That's changing though.
Japan's getting fed up with the tourists.
tim pool
Yeah.
unidentified
I'm starting to see that.
brett dasovic
See all the signs on the...
phil labonte
There's a streamer going over there and getting...
unidentified
Causing a problem.
tim pool
Let me tell you about American culture.
It's Little League Baseball.
It's selling lemonade as a little kid, learning how to be an entrepreneur.
It's warm apple pie with a scoop of ice cream.
It is Super Bowl Sunday.
There are all these woke people saying that white people have no culture and stuff like that.
And then you look at all the different cultures, all the different countries around the world, and there are distinct cultural elements of what makes those groups.
And it's not white people.
Black or otherwise, it's every different demographic that emerged and developed a way of life, built a culture around what they do.
This is the food they eat, it's the clothing they wear, it's the music they have, it's the stories they tell.
Like, Krampus is not a particularly big element of American culture.
If someone asked me, what's American culture?
I said Christmas, and then they said Krampus, I'd be like, eh, we make jokes about Krampus, but not really.
But I think in Germany, Krampus is big.
Is that it?
Yeah.
Krampus is the guy who mercilessly beats the children, right?
phil labonte
They're bad, yeah.
tim pool
Beats them on Christmas?
Well, we don't do that here.
unidentified
We have the Grinch, but I don't think he beats children.
tim pool
No, the Grinch, he changed his ways.
unidentified
Oh, that's right.
tim pool
No, Krampus mercilessly beats them, doesn't he?
phil labonte
That's what I hear.
I mean, I didn't grow up with the stories.
tim pool
But this is my complaint with the illegal immigration stuff.
You're right.
The migrants aren't coming here because they want...
Apple Pie Baseball and Christmas Morning.
They're coming here because you can work less for more.
That's it.
If you want to buy an Apple computer but you're from Brazil, it's going to take you all year to save up to be able to buy because you're importing from a foreign country and these things cost a thousand bucks.
But if you live in the United States, you could work at Starbucks and buy an Apple MacBook.
unidentified
Yeah, you'll see like the most poorest, struggling...
Immigrant on TV and in their hand they're holding the brand new iPhone.
brett dasovic
You mentioned Little League, and I just remember we were skating this ledge over at one of the baseball fields in the suburbs over here, and there's actually the Little League pledge that is on all of their dugouts.
It says, I trust in God, I love my country, will respect its laws, I will play fair and strive to win, but win or lose, I will always do my best.
I can't believe they even allow that to still be up there saying, trust in God.
And that's at local fields over here.
tim pool
I mean, if Kamala won, And wokeness kept expanding.
How long until In God We Trust was removed from all the money?
Is it even still on money?
phil labonte
Yeah, well, I mean, they probably won't have to remove it because it would be just a central bank digital currency.
tim pool
In God, that's right.
Yeah.
Well, they're getting rid of cash.
In God We Trust.
What was it?
I was watching one of Portnoy's pizza videos.
I think this is what he said.
They're cash only.
Is it mad respect?
And he was like cheering him on for doing it.
I really like that.
phil labonte
I don't mind the idea of using digital currencies.
We've been doing it forever with Visa.
I think with this administration, with David Sachs being involved in crypto and stuff, and making the administration crypto-friendly, it's possible that...
Something like Tether could be used for digital transactions.
It's a cryptocurrency, but it's pegged to the dollar.
So one Tether is $1.
And it would be used without the same kind of fees that you have to pay for Visa and MasterCard and stuff.
Because even if you're not paying your...
You're paying a finance charge or whatever for your using it as a credit card.
There's still a fee to use it.
unidentified
The merchant's getting charged with that.
phil labonte
Yeah, something like $3 or whatever.
And there's no reason why you can't use cryptocurrencies in the same way because something like Tether can be as fast as Visa or whatever.
And that would actually be a safe way to change value.
And it would really make...
You know, make settlements much faster.
You wouldn't have to wire money the way that you have to wire money nowadays.
It wouldn't have to be authorized through banks and stuff like that.
So I think that that could be a good thing.
But that doesn't mean that something like Tether would be different to...
A central bank digital currency.
unidentified
On that point, do you remember, was it Amazon that had those grocery stores in the airports and that you would walk in and you'd scan your palm and, like, they advertised that you would just, like, grab what you want, you walk out, and it was, like, automatic.
And then people found out it's really just a bunch of people in a call center watching video cameras, like, racking up what you were buying.
It wasn't actually as high-tech as they advertised it to be.
And their excuse was, oh, we're training it.
serge du preez
Yeah, I mean, Indian guys on H1BB's just chilling in the room, just taking away what you picked up in your hands.
It's crazy, but I went to one of those stores in Hollywood as well, and apparently that's what was going on, so your boy's been on camera.
It's some Indian guys.
brett dasovic
Was it airports, or was it just regular?
serge du preez
I don't know.
I thought it was all Amazon Fresh, in particular Amazon Fresh stores.
phil labonte
I mean, I imagine if everything had an RFID... Yeah.
unidentified
7-Eleven has these things now where you take everything that you're buying and you put it on the counter and there's like a camera over it and it scans everything and it like charges you and you walk out.
I think that's pretty neat.
phil labonte
A lot of places have like...
You can just scan it yourself.
You can just buy whatever you're buying without going through to a checkout.
serge du preez
But this was like, if you're just walking through, and you can pick all the stuff up and pick it up, you apparently were just being watched on camera, I guess.
They were saying it was like RFID chips, but it wasn't the case.
It was just, you know, camera systems.
phil labonte
I imagine that's coming, though.
I mean, I do think that people, maybe not today, maybe not now, but in the very near future, that kind of, you know, Monitoring is something that people are going to be very used to.
It's easy to just walk by and swipe your phone on whatever.
And people have become so accustomed to things happening automatically.
I mean, if you own a Tesla, I have gotten out of my Jeep and forgot to turn it off more times than I can count since I got a Tesla.
Because I just got out of the Tesla and the phone comes with me and it locks itself.
It does it all.
I get out of the Jeep and the Jeep's still running in my car.
I gotta go back and actually turn it off.
Turn off the dinosaur machine, you know?
unidentified
Yeah, it's like that with so many things.
Like, we just bought a new car.
But, like, my car had the, where you walk away, it just locks itself.
You don't have to actually press a button.
My wife's car didn't have that.
So I'd constantly leave her car unlocked.
I'm like, oh, man.
Or, like, the headlights.
She had an older car for a long time.
We just bought a new one.
But, like, I wasn't used to turning on the headlights when I'm driving at night.
Like, it just turns on.
Yeah.
phil labonte
I mean, like I said, I just got a Tesla in November.
And I'm already forgetting that I have to turn my other vehicle off.
And I imagine in the future, I still like driving my car.
Like, I still like driving my Tesla.
But there are times when I'll just be like, you know, go home.
And I imagine in the future that that'll become something that I do more regularly.
Not that, again, not that there's...
Like, I like the car.
I like driving the car.
That's why I drive it.
It's not that I, you know, there are a lot of times where I let the automatic driving happen, but it is fun to drive.
unidentified
I just, I like electric cars, nothing against them.
I love it and I support it, but I just, I need the sound of an engine.
I need, like, I drive a stick.
Oh, okay.
serge du preez
The analog guy, nice.
unidentified
Yeah, like, Teslas, they just feel so soulless.
Like, it's so empty.
And the car manufacturers know they're injecting...
I think Hyundai's doing this in some of their electric sports cars.
You inject fake sound.
I think Dodge released an electric charger or Challenger, and it has a speaker on the outside of the car, so when you're driving, it makes fake exhaust.
phil labonte
Well, when you put your Tesla in reverse...
There's a sound that happens with the Teslas.
unidentified
I think that's a safety regulation.
phil labonte
I'm not sure what it may be.
serge du preez
If you don't have any sight and you can't see it and you just get blindsided by a Tesla, it doesn't matter if it's self-driving or not, it can definitely happen.
phil labonte
I tell you, the difference between the instantaneous acceleration and waiting for an engine to inject the fuel into the engine, spin up and transfer the power to the wheels, I prefer the electric car now.
I much prefer the electric car.
I feel like you have more options, because if you want to go, you can just go.
It's like, I don't know if I have time to get in front of this guy or time to go around him.
Now, with the Tesla, it's just like, oh, I want to do this, and I hit the gas, and it goes.
There's no question about it.
tim pool
You know, I was just thinking something totally random.
With the moves to USAID and the gutting of this funding, Have y'all considered about which stocks are now going to implode first thing Monday morning?
Because I'm wondering, I was just reading something on my phone.
I was looking at, like, earnings reports and stuff like this, and I was like, some of these companies are like research.
They do research and development.
They're probably getting grants.
The government's probably like, oh, we're going to give you X million dollars to work on this thing.
And I'm thinking to myself, like, how does this, like, what is...
You know, I don't want to name any companies in particular, but some of them are like biopharmaceutical companies.
And I'm like, who is giving them the money for this research?
Investors, probably.
But how many of them have gotten government grants, which Trump is going to rip to shreds and just be like, stop doing whatever it is you're doing.
We're not paying for it anymore.
And then all of a sudden, they have to lay off a bunch of staff, can't produce a product, and they're gone.
brett dasovic
I don't know.
What stocks is Nancy Pelosi selling right now?
phil labonte
I mean, there's the...
tim pool
Bro, no joke.
The people who follow the Pelosi tracker have made...
unidentified
Bank.
tim pool
She sold NVIDIA right before it tanked?
I mean, come on.
phil labonte
She knew.
So, NVIDIA quote-unquote tanking is relative.
My NVIDIA stock is still up like 113%.
unidentified
No, because you bought really early on.
phil labonte
Yeah, I bought it a while ago.
But yeah, if you're trading the way that there's a Pelosi track or whatever, if you buy what Pelosi buys when she buys it, You are gonna make money.
brett dasovic
I mean, isn't there a delay on that, right?
Because the records aren't available for a period of time.
So you're not gonna be buying it at the same time as she's buying them.
phil labonte
That could be.
I don't know exactly.
unidentified
You got a lot of these products now being hit with these tariffs, though.
I saw, like, NVIDIA GPUs were being hit with a tariff.
All the pricing went up on those.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, look, when it comes to things like GPUs and, you know, the semiconductors that Are being made overseas.
Our society now runs on those things and to have them to not be able to supply at least supply the United States government.
With the semiconductors that it needs to operate, that, in my opinion, is dereliction of duty by the federal government.
They should be doing everything they can to make sure that there are companies making the semiconductors that they need for the military and for the government, so that way we don't have to rely on anyone else.
We do it with oil.
A big part of the reason why we buy oil from other people is because we have reserves here and we have untapped reserves in the U.S. that we don't want to use up.
Just in case of an emergency.
If something happens and we have to get oil here, we can do it.
We have oil reserves here and they're untapped or they're not being really depleted the way that they could be.
brett dasovic
Weren't they doing that right before the election, though?
They were tapping those to get the prices down?
unidentified
I think Biden did that, right?
brett dasovic
That's what I'm saying.
unidentified
He bragged about it.
He was like, oh, gas has gone lower.
And it's like, yeah.
brett dasovic
We understand why.
phil labonte
Which is also totally and completely irresponsible.
brett dasovic
Mm-hmm.
serge du preez
Because he covered all of our emergency reserves when we could have needed them, and who knows what could have happened at that time, and he depleted all of that.
I remember watching the prices in Hollywood of my local gas station go up to like $7.95 when I was leaving, and then it dropped back down again when he sold all that stuff off, and then sure enough, you know, I forget however many months later, eventually it went back up again, you know?
unidentified
And the media won't call this out, right?
serge du preez
Yeah, of course.
They'll say you're lying.
It never happened.
What are you talking about?
unidentified
Well, some of the media is getting that USAID money.
phil labonte
A lot of the media is getting that USAID money.
unidentified
I haven't gotten any of that.
I hope to get some soon.
brett dasovic
Or they hit you with the president doesn't control the price of gas.
unidentified
Right.
phil labonte
Yeah, which, I mean, he doesn't, but...
unidentified
And now, like, eggs going up in price are Trump's fault for some reason?
phil labonte
I don't know.
The fact that the media is just a propaganda arm for the Democrats.
Now, it's like, there was a time where you would make that argument, oh, well, the left-wing bias, right?
For a long time, it was considered bias.
Oh, they're just biased.
They all live in cities, so they're biased.
That ship has sailed.
It is not biased.
It is straight-up left-wing propaganda.
It is not about, oh, well, you know, the context that these reporters live in is urban, so they're going to have a city-based kind of opinion, or they're going to be a little pro-government because that's the world that they live in.
So if they weren't, it's because of the context.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
These people are on the take from the government.
The government buys their product at $10,000 a month or whatever it is, and it is absolutely propaganda.
tim pool
I just want to let everybody know that before we go to Super Chats, yesterday, for the first time ever, I put butter on a Pop-Tart.
phil labonte
How was it?
tim pool
It was amazing.
So I was watching Family Guy recently, and he was singing a song about how he once put butter on a Pop-Tart, and then Allison and I thought, That's probably actually very good.
He's not wrong.
And we grabbed some Pop-Tarts from a vending machine, and indeed we buttered them.
And it was incredible.
Thus, today, I have purchased 1,200 Pop-Tarts.
brett dasovic
Which kind?
tim pool
All different kinds.
All of them.
Largely fruit.
unidentified
Is butter bad on anything?
tim pool
No, butters, you just eat.
Well, by itself, maybe, I don't know.
I don't know if I'd want it.
But you can put it on anything.
You know what I tried?
You go to a good steakhouse, you butter your steak.
unidentified
I tried soy sauce on ice cream.
tim pool
What?
unidentified
It's a special type of soy sauce, I swear.
And it was amazing.
I almost brought it.
Oh, wow.
It was really good.
tim pool
But just so everyone knows, I do not intend to eat 1,200 Pop-Tarts.
I just bought them because we have, you know, 30-plus people here.
brett dasovic
I will hoard them.
tim pool
And, you know, Allison was like, oh, my God, what are you doing?
And I was like, Allison, these are going to be gone in a month.
brett dasovic
Yeah.
tim pool
I was like, you got 30 people, and then we've got 30 days.
So we're talking about 30 Pop-Tarts a day getting destroyed, and that's just one, and it's two per pack.
These things are going to be gone.
unidentified
She didn't see the vision, the Pop-Tart vision.
tim pool
I know!
And then I was like, what you do is you take...
Two s'mores Pop-Tarts and you put a cookies and cream in the middle.
You make a Pop-Tart sandwich.
phil labonte
My favorite are the cinnamon and sugar.
tim pool
They're very good.
I don't actually intend to eat a lot of them.
I just thought it would be funny because we actually were running out of snacks and so I was like, well, you know, we're going to have to reorder.
Because we usually, not only do we have a lot of staff that come through here, but guests and then guests bring family and friends.
So normally we have chips, we have...
Jerky and drinks and all that stuff.
I just said it'd be funny if I just loaded up on a crazy amount of Pop-Tarts.
And if you haven't put butter on a Pop-Tart, I think you should.
brett dasovic
Did you buy butter to put with the Pop-Tart?
tim pool
In fact, Brett, I already own butter.
brett dasovic
But you have to have more.
You're talking home butter.
tim pool
No, I think...
brett dasovic
If people here want to do it, they've got to bring their own dang butter.
tim pool
Yeah, there's no butter here, actually.
unidentified
What's the logistics of guest butter?
Do you have the little single servings at a diner, or liquid squeeze butter?
You know what I mean?
That's a good question.
tim pool
No margarine, though.
I did learn an important lesson in that we should never buy large half-and-half bottles for our guests, because so few people...
You put cream in their coffee.
What ends up happening is you open one bottle and then I think like three guests out of the week use it and then it's garbage.
So I'm like, we should probably get the smallest pop.
That's why everybody always does the little tiny ones, but that's fake garbage.
It's nasty.
I want like, we get the good organic cream, but then nobody drinks it.
Let's go to Super Chats.
If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, share the show with everyone you know, and become a member at TimCast.com and support our work because we want to buy more Pop-Tarts.
Bro, you know.
I'm looking at all of you that you wish you could have a barrel full of Pop-Tarts just sitting there right in the room and you could eat them whenever you wanted.
But as a nearly 40-year-old man, of course, I can't eat like that.
Nope.
So, indeed, I took a Pop-Tart and buttered it and that will probably be the last time.
But I know that everyone else here will enjoy it.
Me, I try to eat better than that.
Alright, let's grab some Super Chats.
I'm kidding about buying endless streams of Pop-Tarts.
But I do want to stress, I hope you all know, we buy ridiculous amounts of jerky, And we have snacks and food for people.
I don't know.
It'd be weird if we didn't.
brett dasovic
There's like some zero sugar cola that just appeared over at the other studio, and I have no idea where- I don't trust it.
Neither do I. I said, I feel like this is some type of hidden camera show where they just drop it there one day.
Who's going to be the one to try it?
I'm like, not me.
tim pool
My brother had an interesting idea.
He said, you know how eggs are really expensive and there's a shortage?
We should stop giving away Chicken City eggs to employees as a perk for free and get a vending machine where you have to put money in.
Of course, that would just break the eggs, but I said, what if we do the one where you have the sliding drawer, and you put the money in, press it, and then it unlocks, and you can take the eggs out?
Gotta capitalize, you know?
brett dasovic
It's like a claw game, so they have to actually use the claw.
tim pool
It'll still drop and break.
The funny thing, though, is, as an employee of the Timcast Media Corporation, you get free eggs.
Libby always mentions that every time she comes on the show, she grabs a carton of eggs on the way out.
Indeed.
We have too many of them.
Chickens just make them.
We eat them.
Alright, let's grab your Super Chats.
We got, what is this?
Not a bot.
People are still experiencing health effects from the Moss Landing battery plant fire.
Results from independent soil testing done by the residents there should be returning soon.
Interesting.
Tim of 2009 says, Tim, shill for cast brew coffee with Ian's Graphene Dream and the Boonies HQ. Don't forget the Discord delinquents and the after show.
There's an after show on Friday.
Although we do have a green room.
Probably one of the more chill green rooms.
I think the green room we filmed today is legit the most behind the scenes.
Because it's not like we filmed the show.
Literally, Andy turned on a camera while I was playing Magic the Gathering with Allison.
And Tony was hanging out with Chuck, I think.
And we were just...
It was just kind of a generic conversation.
Like, at one point, we sniffed a bottle of cream to see if it had spoiled.
And we believed that it did.
We believe it was spoiled.
unidentified
We called it on the sniff test.
tim pool
And I think he was right.
I sniffed and I said, I can't tell.
And then he sniffed and said, oh yeah, it's bad.
Then we grabbed a different bottle.
It smelled like nothing.
And he was like, it's good.
And then we put it in our coffee.
And it's fun to watch the Green Room show.
That's why we make it.
So check that one out.
Also, yeah, boonieshq.com.
Buy our skateboards.
Jason Nixon says, Tim, please set up the Discord.
The culture is strong.
From your website, timcast.com, Discord, Culture, Roma Nation, Rise of Middle America.
Rise of Middle America.
What a great name for a show.
You guys, have you checked out Roman Nation?
It is very cool that there is the Roman Nation podcast which started on our Discord server.
And so if you haven't become a member at TimCast.com, you should to join the Discord server because quite literally culture is being built.
It is being incubated and people are coming together and becoming friends and they're building projects.
And now I've got people coming to me asking if I... I had someone ask me the other day if I heard of Roman Nation.
Not kidding.
They're like, have you heard of that?
This is a new podcast.
And I was like, I have indeed heard of rumination.
That's right.
unidentified
You're telling me this now for the first time.
tim pool
Alright, what do we got?
Let's see.
Seacowboy says, I just got fired at USAID. Now the people will never know how many chucks a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood.
Now he said, how many chucks a woodchuck could chuck in Iraq?
Thanks, Elon.
unidentified
Indeed.
brett dasovic
$500,000 down the drain.
tim pool
Okay.
What do we have here?
I'm not your buddy, guys.
I'm curious if everything claimed to have been spent on by USAID was actually spent on what they said.
Did they really pay for pottery classes?
Yeah, they probably didn't.
There's just some ultra rich guy in Morocco who's got a nice car.
That's the name of the game, man.
man, that's the capital city.
Someone, uh, he who is him says USAID did Gamergate.
Is that true?
brett dasovic
Oh, money got sent to Feminist Frequency.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
No.
unidentified
Yeah, my buddy Mark.
Guy in Florida, he was pointing this out.
What?
Gamergate's still kind of going on.
You've seen this change with the gaming culture.
Was it Marvel Rivals?
I'm playing that endlessly with a bunch of buddies.
It's killed Overwatch.
Overwatch is effectively dead.
In Marvel Rivals, the characters are good-looking.
It's nice to play.
tim pool
All the dudes are jacked and all the women have big butts.
unidentified
It's so funny.
The left gets like, oh, you're objectifying women.
It's like, well, the guys look at...
Look at fit dudes in video games like, man, I need to go to the gym, right?
brett dasovic
Every guy sees a superhero's aspiration.
unidentified
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
Actually, Bruce Banner is scrawny and frail in Marvel Rivals, but all the other guys...
brett dasovic
That's their point, is that he turns into the Hulk.
tim pool
Right.
You know what's really funny about Marvel Rivals?
I'm gonna say it.
They basically just ripped off Overwatch.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
No joke.
Like, the Hulk is diva.
It's very obvious.
It's the same character.
And Scarlet Witch is all...
It's not one for one, but Scarlet Witch is basically Moira.
unidentified
Yeah?
Yeah.
See, they did it better than the Americans, because Americans were...
What was the company behind Concord?
Was it Microsoft?
Do you remember that company?
Yeah, they just flopped.
They were developing it for years, and they released it.
All the characters were super ugly.
It literally looked like it was funded by USAID. It was just trans and weird, and it just flopped, and it was so bad.
I think it made it like a week, two weeks, and it's just gone.
At least the Chinese just did it better.
tim pool
It was Sony.
unidentified
Was it?
tim pool
Yeah, on PS5 and Windows.
brett dasovic
500 million dollars or something.
unidentified
Some crazy amount of money, and it's just, it totally flopped.
tim pool
The characters, oh, you're right!
unidentified
Yeah, it looks like a USAID project.
tim pool
Yeah, look at this.
unidentified
They look like mutants.
Who wants to play this?
tim pool
What was a game supposed to be?
unidentified
It was supposed to be like an Overwatch.
Wow.
It was just supposed to be like an Overwatch, but like, how do you look at this and identify with any of that?
tim pool
Oh, wait, what's this?
Hold on.
Let me pull this one up.
This is interesting.
Oh, it's too small.
Let me see if I can open it here.
Oh, come on.
It won't let me pull up this image.
There we go.
We got it.
We got it, baby.
There we go.
phil labonte
Oh, boy.
Dog.
tim pool
Does this game not exist anymore?
unidentified
No, it's gone.
tim pool
Really?
Completely gone.
unidentified
It lasted like a week.
They shut down the servers after a couple weeks or something like that.
brett dasovic
You can't get into arguments with people about these things because if you tell them you want characters that don't look ugly, they're like, you just want a goon to this character!
And they don't understand that actual objective beauty is something that all humans understand.
unidentified
You just don't want to look at something ugly on the screen.
brett dasovic
Yes, you just don't want to look at something ugly.
phil labonte
But that's not a real reply.
brett dasovic
No.
phil labonte
That's a pre-programmed reply because they don't have an actual good argument.
Essentially, it's an ad hominem.
The long and short of it is they're just insulting you.
They're saying, oh, you're a deviant.
This is about you being a morally deficient person.
This isn't about actually thinking that aesthetically pleasing things are good and things that are not aesthetically pleasing are bad.
tim pool
I knew that it failed, but I didn't realize that they literally just deleted the game two weeks later.
unidentified
It was probably one of the bigger disasters in gaming right now.
But a lot of these American gaming companies are going through it right now.
tim pool
Look at the characters.
They legit were like, let's create a feminist book club from a local college.
unidentified
It literally looks like a college campus.
tim pool
But that's what they were trying to do.
And this is the problem.
These people don't play games.
Veilguard, did you see what IGN recently said about it?
They said it wasn't attractive enough to a profitable amount of players or something like this.
Bro, just say it.
The average person who plays these games does not want to pull a bar because they misgendered somebody.
And as soon as that video dropped, I was out.
I loved Inquisition.
And I was like, oh, new Dragon Age is coming out.
And then I saw that video and I was like, eh, that's it.
I'll play Marvel Rivals.
You know what I mean?
Whatever.
All the dudes are just ridiculous.
They're like massive and their shoulders look like they can't enter rooms because they'll just bump their shoulders.
And all the women's butts are massive.
I'm like, they did that on purpose.
brett dasovic
It's because in the actual comic books, the men had to look that way and the women looked that way because they're supposed to be the most aspirational form of humanity that you could be.
And the problem is that feminism negates the idea that the women looking like that is an affront to them because women see it and they say, the women shouldn't look like that.
The women should look like me.
The men see the men and they say, I want to look like that.
I better hit the gym.
tim pool
Remember when Marvel tried making Dora the Explorer a superhero?
unidentified
Oh, was that?
Was that the Miss Marvel?
tim pool
No, no, no.
It was the New Warriors.
unidentified
Oh, God.
tim pool
Like, this is nuts.
Let me pull this up.
unidentified
It did this with every character.
brett dasovic
That ended up not coming out.
tim pool
Right.
It got panned so mercilessly.
brett dasovic
Internet gas from...
unidentified
Yep.
brett dasovic
Yep.
tim pool
Screen time.
brett dasovic
Screen time.
tim pool
That was the character's name.
unidentified
Her name was Screen Time?
tim pool
No, no, no.
Here you go.
This is, like, pretty grainy, but the guy in the middle is Screen Time, and he can, like, look at this, the brother and sister incestuous relationship.
brett dasovic
And the brother there, that's what they imagined a jock would look like.
unidentified
Isn't that the trans colors, too?
tim pool
Yes.
So this is Safe Space and Snowflake.
No joke.
unidentified
It's not real.
brett dasovic
No, it was absolutely real.
tim pool
I'm pretty sure it was Marvel, right?
brett dasovic
Yes, it was Marvel.
tim pool
Yeah, Marvel's New Wars.
And this character right here is a Latino woman who has a backpack she can reach into to pull out any item from a pocket dimension.
Literally Dora the Explorer.
Yo, these people are nuts.
phil labonte
With a bag of holding.
unidentified
A bag of holding.
brett dasovic
The point was that is an example of one that was so bad that it never even made it to print.
They canceled it.
It might have come out like years later, but it was the backlash.
tim pool
Some of the stuff gets to this one.
Screen time.
unidentified
What is his power?
tim pool
He can like interface with the internet and emit internet gas.
brett dasovic
Internet gas.
unidentified
So he's like a...
phil labonte
What is internet gas?
brett dasovic
Well, we never got the comics, so we'll never know.
tim pool
Snowflake.
Let me pull this up for you guys.
unidentified
Way too much money.
phil labonte
I think I have cancer now.
tim pool
Snowflake, safe space, B-negative, trailblazer.
unidentified
See, B-negative is a goth.
phil labonte
Nobody that large has that much of a thigh gap.
unidentified
Yeah, that's your average.
brett dasovic
Talk about unrealistic body standards.
phil labonte
Seriously.
tim pool
Wow, dude, I can't believe Concord.
That's funny.
You know, I gotta tell you, when Marvel Rivals was announced, I've been paying attention for a while.
When it came out, I downloaded it.
I've been playing it.
Concord did so bad, I barely even noticed its existence.
unidentified
Yeah, I only heard about it.
I think Nish Gamer was talking about it.
tim pool
I really want to play it now.
unidentified
Yeah, the physical copies were going on eBay for a super amount of money.
tim pool
How can you play it?
There's no service.
unidentified
You just wanted it.
Because Sony was so invested in this, they made a custom controller for it.
You could buy a Concord, like, colored controller, and now they're, like, super expensive.
I want one that actually looks really good.
tim pool
Dude, Veilguard flopped, and it is nuts.
Dragon Age is a major AAA. Everybody was anticipating it.
And then this video comes out.
Where this woman is like, oh, gee, I accidentally misgendered this deity.
Better pull above.
Starts doing push-ups, and the character's like, what are you doing?
It's like, well, I've got to do push-ups now because I misgendered somebody, and we're like, off.
unidentified
Civilization, the newest civilization is going through that now, too.
tim pool
No.
unidentified
So in civilization, traditionally, you pick a former leader or conqueror, right?
Yeah, of course.
Well, the newest one, one of the options is Harriet Tubman.
And they can be in charge of anything.
You can have Harriet Tubman in charge of the Roman Empire or something to that effect.
And so it's flopping.
If you pull it up on stage, it's crashing.
tim pool
Because originally, I'm pretty sure I played Civ VI. If you picked Augustus Caesar, you were Rome.
If you picked Abraham Lincoln, you were America.
Now they're making it so that Harriet Tubman can be...
unidentified
Roman Empire.
tim pool
Kind of?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
That's so dumb.
phil labonte
Nothing matters and everything is stupid and nothing matters.
tim pool
Everything is stupid.
Man, what was it, Civ IV, that had Leonard Nimoy giving all those quotes?
Civilization was one of the best games.
I actually think that, I think Civ IV is probably good.
You don't need to get a five or six.
Civilization II is also good, but you need updates, so maybe if people have modded it to be more modern.
But I actually think Civilization as a game, maybe not VII, should be a requirement for children.
unidentified
It's a great game.
tim pool
Yeah.
I love it when you're like, you know, playing, let's say like Civ VI or whatever, because I haven't played VII. A good lesson kids learn is you are building your nation, you build little cities, and then all of a sudden some dude shows up and he's angry at you and he's like, my nation is better than yours and I'm going to steal all your stuff and there's nothing you can do about it.
And you're like, bro, I didn't even say anything to you.
Next thing you know, he's launching catapults, trebuchets are firing on your city.
And it's an important lesson for kids to learn about geopolitics that sometimes a war will happen and there's nothing you've done, but you better be prepared to defend yourself and the people you care about.
Not to mention, teaches you about the pyramids and forms of government.
Very educational.
serge du preez
Yeah, Civ V Gandhi.
If you know, you know that guy was wild.
I thought that was Civ I. I remember like Civ IV or V or whatever.
tim pool
No, I'm pretty sure it was like Civilization I. There was a glitch in the early civilizations where Gandhi was like, I will nuke you!
unidentified
And it was like, whoa, Gandhi, chill.
tim pool
But I believe in real life, his wife very much was in favor of deterrence.
Whereas he was like the peaceful guy.
She was like, yeah, but come on, you know, if you got a big gun, no one's going to mess with you.
unidentified
Now you can play the new Civ and be Harriet Tubman and nuke other countries.
tim pool
Harriet Tubman was not even a world leader.
unidentified
How dare you?
tim pool
That's what she did was based.
That's fine.
But wow, that's cringe.
I will say I do understand the idea of customizing your civilization and being like, I want to have, like, you choose a world leader because they get plus one to this thing and minus one to that thing, but then you also want to have Rome, which gets plus Aqueduct and minus this, I guess.
But it's really just becoming like a choose-your-own-adventure, customize a character.
unidentified
Where's the balance?
Like you would pick something because it's really good in one thing and then you have to suffer in some other stats.
And now you can just mix everything.
What's the point?
tim pool
Civ 7 is failing, huh?
unidentified
Yeah.
It's too bad.
tim pool
I just think, wow!
Civ 7 opens to mostly negative reviews as players call it an unfinished mess.
phil labonte
Most games that come out nowadays are unfinished.
unidentified
Yeah, they patch them or you pay for updates, right?
Like back in the day, back in the day you buy a game and that's it.
Because they couldn't patch it.
phil labonte
Halo 3 was released with the whole game, right?
There was the full multiplayer experience and they had this thing called Forge where you could build maps all in the game.
Day one.
Nowadays, they released Halo Infinity and, like, they were patching it and adding on for over a year before the full list of things that they promised before it was released were actually available.
tim pool
Gentlemen, this message goes out to all the Gen Zers out there.
Because I feel bad that you will never know the glory that was the dawn of video games.
In Street Fighter 2, the game was complete.
It was released.
But there was a problem in the game.
People eventually realized that if you put in the sequence to perform a move during a move, it would chain two moves together.
And they would be unstoppable.
And so in the first release of Street Fighter 2, one of the most famous and easiest to pull off combos would be, it's probably got a more formal name, but say Ryu.
You jump towards the person.
You do a fierce kick.
Before you land, you down, down-forward-forward punch to chain a Hadouken, followed by a Shoryuken, and all in one motion with no opportunity for your opponent to defend, you will hit them several times in what was called a combo.
Guess what?
That was an error.
It wasn't supposed to be possible.
And so when it came out, the developers were like, we got a problem, the game got released, and people are connecting moves, and you can't stop it.
And then they went...
It's on purpose.
It's not a bug, it's a feature.
You have to be skillful enough to pull off a combo in the first place.
And thus was born the combo, which they then incorporated intentionally into all the games after that.
If Street Fighter II got released today, they would have patched that the moment it went out, and combos would never exist.
And so as I aged, I played vanilla World of Warcraft.
Back when it first came out.
And there was a point in Stormwind where when you go in and you go to the left of the auction house, you could jump up on like a crate, jump at the wall, and then jump slightly to the left, floating on a glitch midair, and then fall through the floor and go underneath Stormwind, clearly seeing a place you're not supposed to be.
And it was fun.
And me and my friends, when we played this, It was the most fun thing because this is a massive world map and you could go anywhere and try and break into places you weren't supposed to go.
The same is also true for the original Destiny.
You ever play Destiny?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
You got these motorcycle type things called sparrows.
And if you positioned yourself at a wall in just the right way and spawned your sparrow, you'd clip into the wall and go through it.
That made these games so incredibly fun and they patched all of that out and now the games are stupid and boring.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So, I saw this meme the other day, and it said, video games in 1989, 1992, 1996. And then it says, video games, and it says, millennials.
And it said, Gen Z gaming.
And it's just like, GTA 5, GTA 5. Yeah, it was Fortnite every time.
unidentified
And it doesn't change.
tim pool
Yep.
unidentified
These Gen Zers have been playing Fortnite for like, what?
Almost 10 years.
And it's the same.
It doesn't look any different.
Yep.
There's no innovation.
tim pool
Or look at GTA 5. It's like, we used to get a GTA and updates and different versions in different cities, and now it's just, that's it, it's over.
So, man, these kids, they don't know what they've missed.
They'll never know the joy of seeing the latest generation of gaming console coming out with updated graphics, because now it's just like, what do you mean?
We downgrade our graphics.
unidentified
Well, the graphics, they have made developers lazy.
These games come out and they're not optimized.
And so you have to drop, like, you have to have the newest...
phil labonte
I mean, some of the reasoning for it is because in the past they've had the actual resolution degrade for further away objects as opposed to the objects that are in the front.
Nowadays they're making the resolution for objects far away the same resolution as objects up front, so that's part of why graphics cards have...
They've increased in power, but to the casual player, the graphics haven't gotten better.
It's because the graphics have become more homogenous throughout the whole game, as opposed to just the immediate area.
If you think back to Halo 2...
Like Halo 2, the graphics were a certain level when they were right next to you and stuff, but then if you looked off in the distance, it was mostly smoke or just shapes and stuff.
They are actually using the power of the new graphics cards, but that's because they're trying to make the whole thing more homogenous.
tim pool
Let's grab some more Super Chats.
We got Samuel Eddy who says, I am passing this message on.
If America is going to have a new golden age, we should polish the Statue of Liberty.
Put it to a poll.
It's an interesting point.
The Statue of Liberty is supposed to be brownish.
Browns.
It is made of copper, I believe, and so it has oxidized and turned greenish.
How often would...
It's kind of weird that we never kept up with it.
brett dasovic
It's what they did in the show Fringe, in the alternate timeline.
The Statue of Liberty is copper.
phil labonte
I just blame the state of New Jersey.
tim pool
They've never...
Shouldn't they have been like, every year we should polish it?
phil labonte
Once a year.
I mean, look, they're literally constantly painting the Golden Gate Bridge.
When they get done, they start at the other end again.
tim pool
Really?
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
Well, if it's not constantly, constantly, it's like there's not a long time in between.
They have to keep updating the paint on the Golden Gate.
tim pool
It's actually nuts to me right now that they don't make new games anymore, really.
It's just like they take existing engines and just update them slightly.
unidentified
There's no innovation.
tim pool
Yeah, we used to make new games.
I'd go into the PlayStation store and I'm just like, what is this?
unidentified
There's still some lasting ones.
I like Kojima's stuff.
So like Death Stranding has been really, really great.
tim pool
I remember going to the video game store back in the day.
Where would we go?
Funkoland?
unidentified
GameStop.
Funkoland.
tim pool
Aimstop, bro.
unidentified
KBE Toys?
Was that another?
Did they sell games?
tim pool
No.
brett dasovic
That was actually one of the last bastions of small businesses that would have the resellers and stuff like that.
tim pool
Funkoland.
brett dasovic
Those still exist.
tim pool
Yeah, Funkoland.
And I remember when I was a real little kid, we would go to Farmore.
I don't know if that was a Chicago thing.
And the video game selection was massive.
It was just like, there was just too many games.
And then you'd have like this huge thing of all these games.
Now there's like three.
unidentified
So you went to Chinatown in Chicago and they sold ripped games.
And you would take your PlayStation, you'd have to put like a little spring in it and get it modified.
And you can play like copied games.
And you'd go to Chinatown and just buy copied games.
tim pool
To be fair, there's like more games than ever now.
But there's just like...
GTA doesn't make new games anymore.
Rockstar just doesn't make them.
unidentified
Well, they make one game and then they ride it with updates and patches and DLC for 10 years.
tim pool
Man.
Well, at least Marvel Rivals is a new game.
Whatever.
What's their model?
Like, they're selling costumes?
unidentified
Yeah, cosmetics.
tim pool
Yeah, that seems to be the model-free game, and you can buy cosmetics.
It's kind of a bummer that Overwatch, you know, is over.
But, you know, it is what it is.
They tried launching, what do you call it, the classic mode?
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
You know, bringing back the OG, and everyone's like, this sucks.
Yeah, c'est la vie.
Alright, we'll grab one more here.
This account, this is not the account you're looking for, it says, Tim is a genius.
It's only $320 for 1,064 Pop-Tarts.
It's not expensive.
We have purchased very many.
And different flavors.
Largely the fruit kind.
You know, because, you know.
But we'll get more.
We'll get more.
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unidentified
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tim pool
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