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tim pool
So over in Pennsylvania, Trump won and McCormick won.
Bob Casey lost, but Democrats are refusing to give up.
Casey's refusing to concede.
They even tried blocking McCormick from actually going to Senate orientation.
And now we have Democrats voting to count illegal ballots, explicitly stating on the record...
That they were going to violate the law counting ballots that don't have dates, that were missing dates because they want the courts to pay attention.
And probably the most shocking thing about it was when this woman says, we all know that precedent doesn't matter in this country anymore.
At the same time, you've got Democrats talking about forming a shadow cabinet.
You've got governors talking about forming a coalition to resist Donald Trump.
So when Democrats say they're going to count illegal ballots anyway, and now Bucks County is within a few hundred votes of flipping, mind you, these are illegal ballots.
They violate the law.
I wonder where we go next.
So we've got quite a bit to talk about.
And we'll get into the social elements here because there's some viral trends on Reddit.
Of people, I want to keep it very light, but let's just say they're not taking the election results very well, and some are threatening self-harm.
Some have alleged that others already have over this.
It's getting absolutely crazy.
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Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Maureen Bannon.
maureen bannon
Thank you, Tim, for having me on.
tim pool
Who are you?
What do you do?
maureen bannon
So I am CEO of War Room.
I work with my dad.
Who's that?
Steve Bannon.
For anyone that doesn't know, I look almost exactly like him.
The prettier version of my father, let's just say that.
Sorry, Dad, if you're watching.
phil labonte
I'm sure he's fine.
maureen bannon
But I've been working with my dad for the last three years.
Actually, on November 12th was my three-year anniversary working with War Room.
But I was in the Army for almost nine years after going to West Point.
I did logistics once I got out for a flooring company, and then COVID hit.
And my dad had wanted us to work together for a while, but I always said politics is your thing.
My thing was...
The army and then I wanted to go to nursing school.
That didn't pan out.
I saw what happened during COVID and the company that I was working for at the time wanted to force the vaccine and I refused to get it.
So...
I finally, they were trying to find any reason to fire me because they couldn't because of a medical exemption.
And I sat down with my dad, said, let's work together.
We sat down at my grandpa's kitchen table, hashed out us working together.
And then three years later...
Here we are.
tim pool
Well, right on.
It's great to have you.
Should be a lot of fun.
maureen bannon
Thank you.
tim pool
Shane's here.
shane cashman
That's awesome.
I am a big fan of The War Room.
Joe Allen's one of my favorite writers who writes for The War Room.
maureen bannon
He's awesome.
shane cashman
He's great.
I'm Shane Cashman.
I'm an author and the host of Inverted World Live every Sunday at 6 o'clock.
tim pool
Did you see that they've admitted that non-human intelligence exists and that it actually killed people?
shane cashman
Yeah, we're going to talk a lot about that on Sunday.
It's going to be very interesting.
tim pool
I want you to get this clarification because I saw a report that said there is technology of non-human intelligence that has crashed and killed people.
Is that what they were saying in those hearings?
shane cashman
I mean, basically.
And then Ana Paulina Luna was asking about the crafts actually being alive themselves.
And when she asked that, they said, we have to answer this behind closed doors.
phil labonte
That's so weird.
shane cashman
And they also talked about Lockheed Martin doing a lot of weird stuff under the water.
So...
tim pool
That'll be fun.
We'll talk about all that, too.
I got that story pulled up.
Phil's hanging out.
phil labonte
Hello, everybody.
My name is Phil Labonte.
I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band, All That Remains.
I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary.
Let's go.
tim pool
Here's a story from the National Review.
Bucks County commissioners vote to count illegal ballots as Pennsylvania Senate race heads for a recount.
All right, let's start here.
Let me pull up the New York Times, and we can see here over in PA, you've got Bucks County, and it is now within only...
It's, uh, Bob Casey is now winning in bucks.
Is that, was that, was that the case before?
Did they literally just flip it right now?
phil labonte
Holy crap.
tim pool
What's the, uh, hold on.
I gotta look at the screenshot that I got for the graphic, because I'm pretty sure as we were making the screenshot, they did not flip it.
Am I wrong?
Hold on, let me load this stupid thing.
Why is it taking forever?
Seriously, I can't open a graphic now?
This thing's crashing on me.
Okay, so anyway, here's what's happening.
There are ballots that are not dated.
Okay, so when I took the screenshot before, Bob Casey had taken Bucks County.
I'm sorry, it was Donald Trump.
So over in the presidential side in PA, they're trying to flip it from Trump.
It's now within only a couple hundred votes, less than 300, from Trump to Kamala Harris.
It is 49.5 to 49.5.
These ballots are illegal, and don't take my word for it.
Let me just play this clip that's gone viral.
unidentified
We reject all three categories of these ballots.
Your motion is to reject or dismiss the challenges in this category in front of you?
phil labonte
Correct, yep.
unidentified
I'm not going to second that, mostly because I think we all know that precedent by a court doesn't matter anymore in this country, and people violate laws anytime they want.
So for me, if I violate this law, it's because I want a court to pay attention to it.
tim pool
Okay, block her up.
She's admitted to willfully subverting governance.
This is Buck's GOP saying, Democrat commissioners violate the rule of law and ignore PA Supreme Court ruling.
Democrat commissioners Diane Marsaglia and Bob Harvey voted today to count illegal ballots against PA Supreme Court ruling in attempt to aid former Senator Bob Casey.
Thank you to the Republican Commissioner Gene DiGirolamo for making a motion to uphold the law.
This is literally what's going on right now.
They are admitting to trying to overturn an election result because they want the Democrat to win that Senate seat.
I think, you know, I don't know if you guys saw the shadow cabinet proposal from the Democrats.
They want to create a shadow government.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
They're actually going on CNN saying we're going to create a shadow government and you have Pritzker and what's the guy's name in Colorado, the governor, talking about creating a coalition called the GSD. Yes.
They're forming something called the GSD, which is an alternate function of governance which will defy Donald Trump.
What would you say to someone six years ago if you said these things were going to be happening?
phil labonte
Oh, six years ago people would have said you're crazy.
The Democrats don't do those kind of things.
The Democrats are the good guys.
tim pool
One year ago, one year ago, if I told you that Democrats would publicly state they will illegally count ballots, they don't care, the precedent doesn't matter anymore, that they're going to violate the law, that you've got one Democrat calling for a shadow cabinet, a formation of a shadow hierarchy for every member of Trump's cabinet, they will appoint a Democrat to their version.
I got to tell you, I think Rudyard Lynch is right.
He said there was going to be a people's capital in D.C. and a Patriots capital in Austin.
I said, well, he predicted Trump was going to win.
So why would the Patriots be in Austin?
And he's like, oh, yeah, you're right.
I'm like, right.
It's going to be the people's capital in New York.
They're going to form a shadow cabinet.
They are going to defy the law.
I don't know why anyone would expect them to do otherwise.
shane cashman
They don't learn their lesson.
They're not listening to the people.
tim pool
There's no lesson to learn.
What lesson is there to learn?
shane cashman
In terms of just trying not to be so publicly desperate and bend the law to win.
tim pool
There's no lesson to be learned.
They have always been adamant about violating the law and screaming in your face.
The charges against Donald Trump in New York, for instance, have no underlying crime.
They outright said, I don't care.
I think the issue is Republicans don't learn.
Maybe Donald Trump now is with these cabinet appointments, but it's fascinating that You know, Phil, you said it a while ago, there's no off-ramp.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
I mean, we just played a clip of a woman saying, precedent does not matter in this country anymore, and I will violate the law.
maureen bannon
And I think that they also kind of showed this in 2018, 2017, when a lot of Democrats were questioning the election back then, when Donald Trump won the first time.
I don't know if you guys remember, they said...
The machines don't work.
They're not good.
We need to hand count.
And then all of a sudden, when Joe Biden won, then all of a sudden the machines are fine.
Everything's fine.
So I think they kind of gave us a foreshadow of this back in 2017, 2018.
shane cashman
Didn't Elizabeth Warren actually put out the letter saying Dominion machines were not to be trusted?
tim pool
That was right after Trump won.
phil labonte
Donald Trump needs to be the president that the left has been terrified of and has been saying that he's going to be.
That he was not.
That he honestly...
I'm not sure that he even has the stomach to be that president, but he needs to be the president that they're terrified of.
He needs to execute the law, and I'm not talking about doing anything illegal, but he needs to...
Indict every single person that will vocally say that they're going to fly in the face of the law, not do their duty according to their position.
Anyone that says anything about creating a shadow government, that's sedition.
They need to be investigated, arrested.
If you're going to send...
Steve Bannon to jail.
If they're going to send Roger Stone to jail, and I don't even know what Roger Stone's deal was, but I know they're kicking in the doors of Americans.
If they're going to go and kick in the doors of Mar-a-Lago, I know they didn't kick in the doors, but if they're going to go and search Mar-a-Lago while President Biden has...
Umpteen thousand or whatever classified documents, then President Trump, when he takes office, needs to be the president that they have all been afraid of.
He needs to be as militant as the law allows.
tim pool
Let's take a look at this story.
Fox 13 says, what is a shadow cabinet and how would it work in the U.S.? Rep Wiley Nickel of North Carolina first shared his thoughts on a shadow cabinet, an op-ed published in the Washington Post.
He then gave an interview on CNN, and there's now a video of him basically breaking down who they would appoint.
Now, of course, you're going to hear from Democrats being like, he's just talking about advocacy, right?
When you've got Governors Pritzker and Paulus leading state-level groups aimed at quote-unquote safeguarding democracy to defy Donald Trump, you've got the formation of a hierarchical structure, a shadow cabinet mirroring Donald Trump's.
This is the formation of state coalitions with alternate or should say parallel governance.
I'm sorry, guys.
I don't know how many times I have to sit down and be like, hey, this is a really weird thing that's happening.
It's unprecedented in American history.
And people just go, nah, it's going to stop here.
Nothing else is going to happen.
phil labonte
Fine.
tim pool
I'll say it right now.
This means nothing.
Nothing's happening.
Go back to Meta.
Go back to Meta America.
The government's in control.
Trump's got it.
Everything's going to be fine.
Go watch American Gladiators.
Here's 40 channels of it.
phil labonte
I can only reiterate what I've already said.
The president needs to come down as hard as the law allows.
tim pool
But that's...
We are watching Democrats form a parallel government in real time.
phil labonte
That's sedition.
tim pool
Trump can't do any—it doesn't matter what Trump does, okay?
Like, Donald Trump's going to come out and say, don't do it, and they're going to say, this proves it, and they're going to keep escalating.
There's no off-ramp.
I couldn't have predicted six months ago that they would try—look, it's one guy going on CNN. They're entertaining it.
Washington Post ran an op-ed saying, what is a shadow cabinet?
Why should we make it?
You've got Democrat governors saying we will defy Donald Trump.
Stop it right now.
It doesn't matter.
This was back in 2020 when we saw the Democrats do their war game where they said if Trump wins, we will push for the West Coast to secede from the union.
And everybody says it's crazy.
You call it whatever you want.
But Democrats don't stop.
They're not stopping.
phil labonte
If there is going to be some kind of confrontation like we're talking about, it's better that Donald Trump be in command of the United States military than the Democrats.
It's better to be on...
tim pool
But that's not a consideration.
Democrats either are in control on weaponizing government against their political opponents, or we vote for Donald Trump and Democrats continue to escalate like they're doing right now.
phil labonte
At some point, if they continue to escalate, at some point it goes kinetic.
And if it does go kinetic, that would be people being seditious against the federal government.
tim pool
But again, again, I'm not trying to cut you off.
That doesn't change anything.
Your words don't mean anything to the actions of individuals who have severed themselves already.
phil labonte
I'm not talking about words.
Like I said, that's why I said kinetic.
tim pool
When the Democrats try to imprison Donald Trump using a fake charge they made up and a fake trial, when they seize Alex Jones' assets illegitimately, sedition is a meaningless word.
It means nothing.
The raw exercise of power is happening right now.
So Trump can come out and say sedition or flibbity bop.
The word is meaningless.
Democrats right now are writing – there's op-eds in The Washington Post saying a shadow cabinet should be formed of political – Adam Schiff would be their – what do they call him?
Secretary of State?
This is what the guy is saying.
He's outlining.
And Pritzker and Polis, is that his name, are outright saying they're forming something called the GSD, the Governor's Safeguarding Democracy, which will leverage the collective strength and experience and institutional knowledge of governors across the country to craft laws and policies to protect the rule of law, basically saying that they will defy Donald Trump's actions.
phil labonte
Okay, so I'm not sure if you're understanding what I'm saying.
I'm saying go kick in their door and round them up.
maureen bannon
What they've been doing to us, you're saying due to them.
tim pool
And my point is, that won't change anything, but it will escalate things.
I'm saying there's no off-ramp, so what you're saying is right now the only thing that can be done is the start of kinetic conflict.
phil labonte
Well, no, I don't think that...
First of all, I do think that if you round people that are seditious up, they will be like, oh...
They're serious.
And then, I mean, then essentially it boils down to, if you've got, if you have a large portion of people that are intent on defying the federal government, if they're going to, they're going to.
And it doesn't matter.
What?
tim pool
That's the point.
phil labonte
Well, yeah, I mean, and so then let them fight the federal government with Donald Trump in charge.
It's better that, better they decide to fight the federal government with Donald Trump in charge than have the power of the federal government and round up the people that are trying to preserve the things that we consider, A Republican form of government.
tim pool
And so the point I'm making is Trump won.
They're already saying outright, we're going to count illegal ballots.
We don't care.
Which calls into question, obviously, 2020.
If they're outright admitting right now, we don't care.
We're going to count illegal ballots.
John Bolton saying there should be an FBI investigation of Tulsi Gabbard and Matt Gaetz who are accused of no wrongdoing simply because Trump won.
They are backed into the corner at this point where our best case scenario is they are so desperate in outright exclaiming these things that regular people say, holy crap, these people are going nuts.
However, as we've often said, anybody who looks at history knows only a small percent of people are required to ignite serious conflict.
So if you go back to twenty eighteen and you were to tell people that something like this would be happening, that Democrats would be openly calling for its Bucks County.
Again, I'm saying these are the seeds.
This is not the way it's not a tsunami.
They would openly state law doesn't matter.
We'll violate the law.
Do something about it.
They'd tell you you were crazy.
It's never going to happen.
And now here we are.
We're sitting here saying congratulations to ourselves.
We won.
Trump got the House, the Senate.
He's got the Supreme Court.
And the Democrats are now saying, okay, then we'll create parallel governance.
shane cashman
Do you think if they round them up, it escalates beyond that?
Or will it quell it?
phil labonte
I don't think that it escalates...
shane cashman
From their side, I'm saying.
phil labonte
I don't think that it escalates significantly.
I do think that you see more low-level stuff.
I do think that you see riots.
I do think that you see people protesting.
shane cashman
Like their foot soldiers on the streets.
phil labonte
Yeah, I do think that it would be more like the Summer of Love kind of thing, you know, that kind of stuff.
I don't see organized militias.
I don't see very many governors activating the National Guard of the states trying to fight the feds.
shane cashman
It's hard to imagine on this side of the election.
Yeah.
phil labonte
Yeah.
shane cashman
How people voted widely, you know.
phil labonte
And again, the way that it is set up now, most people voted for Donald Trump still.
Right.
That still does matter.
And for the normies, right, they'll be like, why are these people defying the federal government?
And I don't disagree that I'm still of the opinion I don't see the off-ramp.
But my point being, if there is going to be kinetic action...
If there is going to be someone that decides that they're going to stand up against the federal government, it's better to be on the side of the federal government.
Because the federal government has an immense amount of power.
tim pool
Let me play this clip.
This is Wiley Nickel from North Carolina.
unidentified
If Trump attempts to weaponize the justice system against his political opponents with Matt Gaetz at the helm, We could see incoming Senator Adam Schiff as our Shadow Attorney General, arguing against replacing our independent prosecutors with Trump loyalists.
If Trump seeks to eliminate the Department of Education, Congresswoman Johanna Hayes, a former Teacher of the Year, could step up as Shadow Education Secretary to loudly defend public education in the United States.
If Trump orders Marco Rubio to hand Ukraine and much of Eastern Europe to Russian President Vladimir Putin, Congressman Greg Meeks, as Shadow Secretary of State, could be a strong voice in support of maintaining international relationships and protecting democracy at home and abroad.
tim pool
Now let's just entertain what that means.
Direct violation of the Logan Act, which we've never actually seen legitimately prosecuted in this country.
He's saying that a Democrat will intervene as a voice...
For our allies, theirs, if Donald Trump, as the commander in chief, instructs the secretary of state to negotiate the end of a war.
I mean, this is crazy stuff.
unidentified
Senator Michael Bennett is shadow treasury secretary and Congresswoman Susan DelBene as shadow commerce secretary could help ensure the middle class and small businesses have a voice in government and call out Trump's proposed tax cuts for billionaires and corporations.
A shadow defense secretary, Congressman Adam Smith, a great representative for the people of Washington, and not a Fox News host, could counter Trump's threat to use military force against his political opponents.
tim pool
How could he counter that?
What does that imply?
unidentified
And work to ensure that the Department of Defense stays loyal to the Constitution And not some wannabe dictator.
tim pool
He's saying that when Donald Trump gives a lawful order, perhaps he invokes the Insurrection Act, this Democrat would go and lobby against that and say, defy the orders of the sitting president.
This is happening, I believe this is happening in Congress.
unidentified
And Senator Tammy Duckworth could argue against cuts to the Department of Veterans Affairs that would delay the benefits and care our service members have so rightly earned.
tim pool
All of these voices are actually him saying Democrats will act against the will of the executive branch and instruct people to defy lawful orders from the president.
shane cashman
They're just doubling down on their delusions.
maureen bannon
Well, that and the cabinet members that Donald Trump has selected are going to purge the rot in D.C. And that's what they're so afraid of.
The fact that all these people, especially the Department of Defense and Veterans Affairs...
at least from my point of view, need to be redone from the inside, from bottom to top.
And the fact that the two people that he named want to keep it status quo, want to keep it as is, and that's not doing any good to anyone in those two departments or who all the people that are affected by that.
tim pool
I think we are looking at a very real scenario.
I think I think the probability is 100% that when Donald Trump is in office...
You see the reaction of Matt Gaetz to Tulsi Gabbard.
He's going to say to Rubio, get the war done.
Rubio is going to negotiate a middle-of-the-road compromise.
He's going to say, Russia will have access to Crimea.
We're stopping this war before it escalates any further.
They're going to say that's unacceptable, total annihilation or nothing.
And they're going to send people to go and advocate to Europe, to Ukraine, in defiance of the executive branch and our chief diplomat, Donald Trump, and commander-in-chief.
shane cashman
They're accelerationists.
They want to keep it going.
maureen bannon
But if they try and commit troops, too, because we already have boots on ground over in the Baltics around Ukraine.
We've been there since 2014.
I was one of the first units that was over there.
And if they actually try and...
Go against a lawful order.
I mean, he's the commander-in-chief.
You can't put authorized boots on ground.
So I don't know how they're, at least with regards to that, how they're going to do anything.
shane cashman
Who's going to listen?
The fake command.
tim pool
I want to jump to this story here.
This is from the Financial Times.
Ladies and gentlemen, this is another video for all of you just before Thanksgiving.
I hope you keep this one saved, bookmark it, copy the URL, share it with friends and family, and have it ready to go, because this one matters.
Trump broke Democrats' thermostat.
The American left was since spinning in 2016 and has yet to recalibrate.
You need only look at these graphs of Democrat swing.
If you look at where the Democrats were in 1996, they were only a few points away from the median voter and only a few points away from Republicans.
The same was true on the issue of immigration.
In 1996, Democrats and the median voter, as well as Republicans, were largely similar on cutting immigration.
Net percentage support.
You had around 20%, minus 20% support for immigration.
And with Republicans, you had about 25%.
Take a look at what happened in 2008.
Democrats veer so far to the left, they leave the median voter and the Republicans behind, jumping from minus 20 to plus 40 in 12 years.
You can take a look at support for affirmative action.
It's much the same.
In 2012 is when you see this massive leftward lurch that just Democrats have jumped so far left.
Now, what the Democrats have been trying to say about these graphs is that actually it's a perspective framing.
If you show left and rightward lurch, but you keep Democrats as a center, it's the right that's veering to the left.
Wrong.
These are support or opposition for political policies, not whether a party moved necessarily.
Democrats radically adopted new policies in an extremely short period of time.
Take a look at this.
This graph is where it's very interesting.
Many of the people who shape Democratic Party politics and policy hold views far to the left of the voting population.
Take a look at Republican political elites and influencers, and you can see that they're just about in the right.
That's where the bell curve is.
The American voters have a little bit on the left and a little bit on the right.
I've often described the average person, the modern Republican, as the true left and the right.
But look at Democrat political elites and influencers.
What is this very strange tale that defies the bell curve that exists in this far left space?
This is tainting the rest of the left.
And this is exactly what we're talking about.
This is where the influencers are.
They are driving their party insane.
It is a cult.
And these are the data points you need to show your friends and family when they claim Trump is far right or I'm far right.
Or I mean, even even Stephen Crowder's a run of the mill conservative.
They say Barry Weiss is far right now.
They say Joe Rogan is far right.
Take a look at why they're saying it.
They've shot so far to the left.
They can't tell what's going on.
shane cashman
They went from safe, legal, and rare to, we'll keep them comfortable.
That's what that blue says to me.
And that only happened in a short amount of time.
tim pool
But you also realize Democrats don't know what that means.
shane cashman
Right.
Yeah.
It depends on where you're looking, what demographics.
tim pool
If you go to any Democrat and say, do you know what it means to say, we'll keep them comfortable?
They're going to say, no, what is that?
If you go to any Republican, they're going to be like, yeah, that was Northam when he said to abort babies that are alive.
shane cashman
It depends on what their media diet is.
tim pool
And the reason why they're on the left is because their media diet is cult media.
shane cashman
Yeah, I mean 2008's also Obama.
tim pool
Liberals who get their news from a diverse array of media, that's Joe Rogan.
Liberals who get their views from MSNBC will have no idea what this is.
That's why Alan Lichtman was so wrong in his prediction of what's going to happen because he turns on MSNBC and they're like, not a single scandal.
Obama had no scandals.
So, you know, there you go.
shane cashman
No Fast and Furious.
unidentified
Yep.
Nope.
tim pool
Just a tan suit.
shane cashman
No war crimes.
unidentified
Yep.
shane cashman
Crazy.
tim pool
Tan soup, nothing else.
shane cashman
I watched CNN so much when we were in Nashville in the hotel room.
I couldn't believe it was a window into another dimension.
phil labonte
Indolences.
shane cashman
Yeah, I know.
I still have like a hangover from so much CNN. But I was curious, you know, because I don't have a TV and I don't watch it ever.
But it was people that exist in another dimension talking about a world I do not recognize at all.
maureen bannon
Same with MSNBC. They're in their own reality.
And they honestly believe that the American people...
Are stupid, honestly.
And that the fact that they want to be able to have lower gas prices, be able to afford groceries, not have to worry about potentially being murdered by someone crossing the border, that they think that that's sexist or fascist or racist or anything.
People want those.
Or women that voted for Donald Trump have internalized misogyny.
No, you're so out of touch with reality.
Women's reproductive rights was not the priority for this election.
People want to be able to feed their families, that they don't have to worry about their kids' safety.
And MSNBC still can't let go of that.
To this day, even today, they're still talking about how, you know...
We're crazy for thinking that these are actual issues and that what they're talking about, those are the most important issues.
shane cashman
Oh, they were so condescending.
They were literally saying uneducated people voted for Trump.
And it's a bunch of overeducated talking heads spewing that 24-7 on all those networks.
tim pool
Take a look at this.
They say for the first time in at least 80 years, voters associate the Democrats more with sociocultural issues than with class and economic solidarity.
They used to represent the working class, and as of 2012, they now stand up for marginalized groups and health care.
phil labonte
I mean, this is a bit lagging, but that's been the goal of the left since probably the 50s.
There's this guy, Herbert Marcuse, that wrote—I talked about this this morning—this guy, Herbert Marcuse, that wrote a lot, and he's a philosopher, a leftist philosopher— And he wrote a lot and he acknowledged that capitalism, he said capitalism delivers the goods.
Capitalism provides a good life for the average working man.
And it does, unquestionably.
It's raised more people out of poverty than any other economic system in history.
So he said, you're not going to be able to find the revolutionary energy with the working class anymore because the working class was actually getting out of poverty.
They were actually achieving a good life.
And part of why they're now going to people that tend to be mentally ill, people that are unhappy, people that have...
Grievance is because people that are happy and content with their lives, that have hope for the future, they don't engage in revolutionary activities.
So what you have to do is foment...
A population to hate the country that they live in.
He said that the revolutionary energy was going to be in the ghetto populations, is what he said, and he was talking about people of color.
Back then he was talking about mostly black people, but nowadays it's expanded to anyone that's, you know, any kind of people of color, whether it be blacks, Hispanics, LGBTQ people very frequently are among the people that are And it's more the TQ people than the LG people nowadays.
But the point is the people that are happy with their lives don't want to tear the system down.
They don't want to see a revolution.
They don't want to see a change in the way that we, you know, organize our lives.
People that believe that the world is going to be on fire in two decades.
They want to see a change.
People that believe that we live in a systemically racist society.
They want to see a change.
The people that believe that we live in a largely bigoted society.
They want to see a change.
And that was something that he acknowledged.
He said the people that are unhappy, the people that are in the ghetto communities, they're where the future for the left exists.
The working class, we've lost them because...
Largely, the system in the United States works for anyone that's willing to go to work.
Anyone that wants to try and put the effort in.
For the most part, it's a system that provides for the people.
Ben Shapiro says this a lot.
There's three things that you need to not have generational poverty in your family.
You need to not have a kid out of wedlock.
You need to go to work and you need to finish school.
If you do those three things, you're probably not going to destitute your whole life.
And it's fairly simple to do those things.
shane cashman
I'll disagree on the school part, but everything else is good.
phil labonte
These days.
The thing about school, he didn't even say go to college.
He just said high school.
And basically what that means is he's just saying, look, be able to finish what you start.
So it's not really about having the high school diploma, though some basic education helps a lot.
shane cashman
It's good to be, yeah.
For sure, plugged in.
Yeah, what you're saying is like the seeds of victimhood currency promote the nihilism that we saw in Summer of Love.
And that's like basically what you're talking about.
A lot of people buy into that.
A lot of them come out of the Marxist college world that I was a part of for a little while as a professor, seeing that whole place just get rotting from the inside.
phil labonte
And they're lied to endlessly.
The people that were rioting during the Summer Love, they genuinely believe that thousands of innocent, unarmed black men were killed every year.
And it's like an average of like 13.
tim pool
I don't know that I believe that.
I think that most of the people who are rioting know it's not true.
And it's the peaceful marchers who believe it was thousands of black people were killed.
shane cashman
The rioters were taking advantage of it.
tim pool
Yeah, and that's how it tends to be.
So my experience covering all of these various protest movements over the past 10 years, it was largely like an eight-year period where I was covering most of it.
The people who are wearing all black and smashing things will tell you in great detail about what's going on.
They use the lies in the media to get bodies that they can use as cover.
15 far-left extremists cannot tear down statues and smash things.
They need 500 regular people who are confused and stupid and walking around.
What they then do is they hide in the middle of the crowds, start fights with cops, and get people radicalized.
So one example is...
They have a color code system for how they do this.
They will create zones where they plan on who will get arrested and who will not.
And they intentionally want to put as many normies as possible in the arrest line.
So they'll call for a peaceful protest.
They'll get a handful of people wearing black block.
When the normies complain and say, we don't want this, they say you have to respect the diversity of tactics.
That's what they call it.
Diversity of tactics.
Not everybody agrees on how to change the world.
And you're not a Nazi, are you?
Like, you gotta let them do that.
Hey, they're not you.
You do your thing, they'll do theirs.
They'll get the normies in the front of the group.
Then one of these guys will crouch down and chuck a bottle at a cop.
Then the cops will start moving in to say this is an unlawful assembly.
You're under arrest.
The normies, 20-year-old college women and men, have no idea what's going on.
Someone will go up to the front of the line and hit a cop.
The cops will then start attacking the entire line.
They'll arrest.
This is the goal of the left.
They've explained this in their direct action meetings.
They call them direct action.
They'll arrest as many people as possible.
Then when these normies are terrified, they've never been arrested before.
They find themselves in jail.
They're brought to the jail in New York where they cram every one of these tiny cells.
They're deeply uncomfortable.
They're standing for hours.
It's super hot.
They're super sweaty.
And the leftists then say, don't you see what they do to people?
You didn't even do anything wrong.
And they arrested you.
Let's hold hands and sing songs.
They try to then love bomb you to make you feel good.
They say, who knows a good song?
And they'll sing some, like, 90s rock song that everybody knows.
Then everyone's singing and feeling good.
They'll say, take my number down and call me.
We need your help.
That's how they radicalize people.
They intentionally get them arrested and then use that experience to radicalize them into joining their group.
shane cashman
Crazy.
Sounds like those tactics were also used at January 6th.
They have, you know, people...
tim pool
That's a little different.
shane cashman
But there were people, I believe, that showed up to instigate, and then a lot of other people who weren't involved directly...
Oh, that's for sure.
tim pool
I'm saying, like, when they brought the J6ers to jail, they just...
shane cashman
Not that part.
tim pool
They beat the education into them.
shane cashman
Not that part.
tim pool
They didn't sing songs.
They were like...
I hear that the J6ers were forced to, like, read stories and learn about why they're radicalized or something.
shane cashman
That's insane.
I'm talking about the agitation part outside.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
That's what gulags were.
Gulags were re-education camps.
People think that gulags were just work camps.
They weren't.
The Nazis had death camps.
The point of going to those places was to work you to death and for you to die.
You could go to the gulag, do your 10 years, and if you came out, and if you properly could recite the...
The leftist ideology, then you could actually come out and integrate back into society.
But that's the difference between an authoritarian and a totalitarian regime.
A totalitarian regime demands that you think the correct thoughts.
An authoritarian regime just wants compliance.
If you do what you're supposed to do and keep your mouth shut, you can fly under the radar and you can get away with not agreeing with whoever's in control.
Don't tell anyone about it, but you can get away with it.
But if you're in a totalitarian regime, they want to make sure that you think the right thoughts.
tim pool
I want to jump to a dark story.
So we'll try and keep this one, the language as light as we can.
But let's just say the election results are not having a positive effect on Democrats.
And so I say, you know, we'll take this seriously.
And again, we'll keep it light.
Here's at Reddit lies, which is an account that calls out people on Reddit who are lying.
They say Democrat fear-mongering backfired tremendously.
And the story is about a person saying that their cousin killed herself due to the election results.
They say this morning our family received the heartbreaking news that one of my cousins took her own life last night.
She had long struggled with mental health issues and was a strong advocate for LGBTQ plus and liberal causes.
It was not close to her, but it's a tragedy to live in a time when someone could feel so isolated and hopeless to the point of choosing such a painful path.
Well, the first thing I'll say is you can't control how people feel about things.
This was an individual who had an internal response.
That's not society.
Everybody's fine.
In fact, butter is now 650 from seven.
So things are getting better.
We're hearing police are beginning to enforce the law.
But this is a person who took it to the extreme.
So I went over to off my chest on Reddit.
Yo, the whole thing is loaded with people who have lost their minds.
Here's one saying nothing matters to me anymore ever since the election.
It's just like I don't care anymore because I feel the future won't reflect on anything positive.
But there's a ton of these.
My friend told me I would lose my aura if I killed myself.
Please, nobody do anything like that.
And, you know, seek help.
There are people who will help you.
But this is another person saying, after the election, I felt this way.
And they said, don't do that.
One person says, I'm utterly destroyed about the election.
Something is wrong with the election results.
Democrats are losing their minds to an extreme degree.
shane cashman
I think this is what Emile Durkheim wrote about in his book Suicide, where he talks about the idea of anomie, where people that experience the death of their worldview either learn to accept it or they don't accept it.
And then this is the result when you don't accept it.
It's terrible.
maureen bannon
I think this is also an effect of the mental health crisis that we have in this country and that the left has exacerbated.
phil labonte
The left desires.
maureen bannon
You're right, and they don't do anything to fix the mental health crisis.
They just continue to allow it to get worse.
I was just going to say, they allow it to get worse, and this is what we have.
We have people that think that the world is so bad that they have to do something permanent for something that's temporary.
shane cashman
That's a great way of putting it.
Why do you think the MAID program is so popular in Canada?
phil labonte
Well, happy people don't revolt.
Happy people do not engage in revolutionary activities.
All of the agitprop, which is what it is, all of the stuff that people hear that's like, this is so terrible, Donald Trump is so bad, it's intended to spark a reaction.
shane cashman
Oh, yeah.
phil labonte
I don't consider it stochastic terrorism as in they're looking for a specific thing to happen.
But they are looking to make people that are a little on the unhappy side more unhappy.
Because happy people do not engage in revolutionary activities.
If you want to change a country...
From the inside out, you don't go to the people that are happy and have good lives and stuff.
You find the people that are unhappy.
There's two major groups.
It's people that are wealthy and guilty about it.
And then there's the people that are marginalized and have mental illness and are miserable for whatever reason it is.
And unfortunately, you're going to see people that are on the edge of depression and stuff like that.
If you keep hammering down, the world's going to end.
This is so bad.
You're going to see people commit suicide.
It is...
It is an absolute disgusting thing that we have an entire media industry.
maureen bannon
That's what I was just about to say.
phil labonte
That is constantly telling people that Donald Trump is Hitler.
And not only is Donald Trump Hitler, even if Donald Trump wasn't Hitler...
Then the whole world's gonna be on fire in two decades.
They're telling kids you have no future to grow up to because the world is going to burn.
shane cashman
They like to hijack the demoralized and then they use the bodies as human shields for their ideologies and or put them on the streets and do their bidding.
maureen bannon
And they'll continue to do it until they're held responsible.
shane cashman
Right.
phil labonte
Yeah.
That's 100% true.
tim pool
Now here's one of the more extreme off my chests.
I just made an appointment to get sterilized, saying that I'm horrified at the outcome of the election with the rise of misogyny and women's rights being stripped away to nothing.
The most empowering decision I can make to protect myself.
Well, she's 42, so...
shane cashman
This is terrible, though.
unidentified
Kids!
shane cashman
Terrible.
Yeah, I mean, they're doing it to kids.
tim pool
Yeah, I'm saying, like, she's older, so I don't see it as that big a deal, but it's an extreme thing.
maureen bannon
I mean, I would love to know what rights she had taken away.
When Donald Trump won, what rights as a female did she have taken away?
shane cashman
She's probably in Portland.
maureen bannon
She probably can't list them.
As a female, I had no rights taken away from Donald Trump being elected.
How dare you say that?
None.
So, the fact that, you know, she feels, and that whole 4B movement that's going on, You know, I don't want to date men, marry men, have sex with men, anything like that.
shane cashman
Shaving their heads, I think.
maureen bannon
Yeah, but that's what we've been trying to get you to do.
They're monks now.
To not have one night stands and do all of this crazy stuff.
That's the whole point of what we as conservatives have been trying to do.
But the fact that you feel like you have to get sterilized because you're not able to go out and get an abortion until birth or until nine months.
It's just crazy that this is the reality.
And until mainstream media is held accountable for what they're putting in people's heads, because they are responsible for some of these people's deaths.
tim pool
But the mainstream media is over.
And so this is what I've been saying all week.
I had this realization.
You know, so Sam Seder likes to make a lot of videos about me and it's crazy.
He just lies.
So his lie now is that Tim Pool admits he refuses to do any research.
And I was like, that's literally never been the subject of conversation.
I said that he's criticizing me for having read a news article and commenting on it and then being upset that the news article was incorrect.
He turned that into, Tim says he refuses to do research.
I'm like, whatever, dude.
And so I've had people say, well, Tim, why don't you comment on Sam?
And I'm like, he's a small channel and he's not really relevant.
I mean, I don't care to talk about these liberal pundits and personalities.
I think I was absolutely wrong about that.
Sam Cedar makes a video about me and gets 200,000 to 500,000 views.
MSNBC can barely crack 60,000.
They're getting 60,000.
And so we're sitting here being like the corporate press and the mainstream media and not realizing that the actual reality is it's people like Sam Seder, Kyle Kalinske, and David Pakman who have been largely lying.
And what is deeply concerning to me is when the corporate press ceases to exist, what are they going to base anything they're saying off of but each other?
There's going to be – we're – we've been in the trenches.
I think we crossed the threshold a long time ago.
But we used to have a news apparatus in this country where news would be reported from an original person.
Not anymore.
Now I see Jack Posobiec, and he'll put out a tweet saying a White House source has told me this thing.
And I say, well, I know Jack, and I trust him.
Then the left will comment on something or they make a lot of videos that are just about themselves and other people.
That's what they do.
But we're going to be drifting away further and further from the point where there's going to be original source reporting.
maureen bannon
Well, that and, you know, growing up, the media when they reported it was 90% truth, 10%, you know, makeup or exaggeration.
Now it's the opposite.
Like you were saying, Tim, you can't trust what is coming from mainstream media because you don't know the source or if it's based in reality.
shane cashman
They'll be replaced by AI real soon.
maureen bannon
I think they'll be replaced.
Honestly, we were talking about this earlier.
I think they'll be replaced by, you know, alternative media.
So, War Room, Tim Pool.
tim pool
I disagree completely.
maureen bannon
You don't think that...
Alternative media is going to take the place of...
shane cashman
Are you saying in terms of viewership?
Or I'm saying they're going to be replaced by...
tim pool
AI can't do original reporting.
shane cashman
I'm saying it's just going to be AI producing articles.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
And it's going to be fake, made-up nonsense.
shane cashman
Yeah.
tim pool
And we're already starting to see this world.
Like I mentioned this a couple weeks ago, I went to the front page of YouTube on a browser that was not signed in.
So, you know, basically what happens is we're sitting here doing the show and all of a sudden I notice we jump 20k viewers.
And I'm like, wow, they must be featuring or something.
So then I pull up on a phone that's not logged in with no accounts and look what YouTube will show to someone with nothing.
In reality, the first thing it shows you is blank and it says search for things.
But if you go to shorts and then go back, it'll auto-populate random stuff.
And sure enough, I was like, oh, look at that.
We're featured on the front page.
page, Timcast IRL, like they're not censoring us the way they used to.
I noticed a bunch of videos where people begun.
They've begun to take clips of there was one.
It said like Tim Poole was arguing with Cenk Uygur, and it was obviously clips from a long time ago of me and Cenk edited to look like we were doing some kind of Zoom conversation.
And it was totally They took a video of me saying something like, let's say I'm commenting on Adam Schiff and Adam Schiff comes out and says, I've got the proof of Russia, Russian disinformation.
And I respond with Adam.
No, you do not.
That is wrong.
You're making this up.
It's not true.
You're going to sit here and lie to everybody.
They take that clip, put it next to Cenk Uygur saying something like Donald Trump clearly did this.
Then I respond and they they got 50K views or whatever.
And then people aren't realizing that that's not a real conversation between me and Cenk, but it makes a ton of traffic.
So I saw a bunch of these.
There was one where it was like David Pakman was arguing with somebody.
I'm like, yeah, that's not a real argument.
Those are clips randomly selected.
And people are making channels where they're like, can you believe what was said here?
That's where we're at now.
shane cashman
That's a whole other dimension.
tim pool
When AI articles start popping up that fabricate stuff, and they do.
When Donald Trump was nearly assassinated, one of the things that went viral is you'd go on ChatGPT and say, like a week later, what happened to Donald Trump at the Butler rally?
It would go, nothing, nothing happened.
And you'd say, no, here's a link.
Someone almost killed Donald Trump.
It would respond, that's actually not true.
No one has ever tried to kill Donald Trump.
It just made stuff up.
When AI starts writing articles, and it already does, I think it was like, I can't remember which, I think ESPN or maybe not ESPN. Someone got in trouble for it.
Yeah, some sporting thing got in trouble for having a fake guy writing AI articles.
It's going to be fabricated information.
People are going to then comment on that information.
It's going to inform voters.
There will be no original reporting.
And then what?
shane cashman
It's a whole other Mandela effect opening up.
Because people are going to believe those things.
Like you're saying, people are making videos based off fake videos.
People are going to watch those videos.
tim pool
Here's one thing I caught today.
I'm just going to say it because I don't care if I'm a crazy person.
But we're exploring a lawsuit against Wikipedia.
So anybody who watches me consistently knows I've never advocated for ivermectin.
I rejected ivermectin to Joe Rogan's face, told him, I don't think it works.
I said to Joe Rogan on the show, I think what ends up happening is in these countries where they take ivermectin is that it cures them of worms, which alleviates their immune system.
And then when they they're able to beat covid, they think the ivermectin is what did it when all it really did was deal with their parasites.
Joe argued and said, no, it's a protease inhibitor, and that has a negative impact on ivermectin.
I said, well, you know, whatever, agree, disagree, fine, whatever.
When I got COVID, we got a series of treatment prescriptions, monoclonal antibodies was the principal one, and that's what I got, and that's what cured me.
I don't know if a cure is the right word, but we had a nurse do IV fluids, and I got monoclonal antibodies, and the next day, within eight hours, I was better.
Four days later, the doctor called and said, I'm prescribing you ivermectin.
And I said, I don't want it.
I feel fine.
And she said, well, I want you to take it anyway.
And I said, but if I don't need it, why am I going to get it?
And she said, look, I'm prescribing you as your doctor.
I want you to take this.
If you don't take it and you end up getting sick, don't complain to me.
I'm telling you what I want you to do.
If you don't want to do it, fine.
And I said, OK, fine, whatever.
Gizmodo wrote a fake article saying Tim Pool was an advocate for Ivermectin, who sought it out, totally fabricated.
They then put it in my Wikipedia and claimed Newsweek is unreliable and Gizmodo is reliable.
I'm not going to this is it's insane.
It's just absolutely fabricated across the board.
We are all they claim that we're in the post truth reality.
These Democrats, these liberals, when they're the ones who principally do it.
You can pull up my videos where I'm like, I didn't want it.
I told him I didn't want it.
I argued with her, but I said, okay, fine.
My doctor prescribed it.
I'll just do what my doctor says.
So I talked to my lawyer today and said, we're going to sue Wikipedia.
The argument is, Wikipedia articles have a byline that says, from Wikipedia.
It doesn't say from...
You know, cruiserdude43, some random user, it says from Wikipedia.
So if Wikipedia, from Wikipedia, wants to make an assertion, a statement of fact that I sought ivermectin when I've spoken out against it over and over again, then we're going to sue him.
shane cashman
Great.
Good.
tim pool
Yeah.
shane cashman
I never liked Wikipedia.
I enjoy it for what it is, but when we were teaching journalism in college, all the handbooks across many colleges were like, you can never have your students use it as a source because it's bogus, and anyone can go in and change anything.
It's great as a diving board to look at the bottom, see where they're sourcing their information, but that thing is a cesspool.
tim pool
Let's do this.
We got this story from Variety.
Matt Walsh is a hypocrite for submitting Am I Racist to the Oscars?
Why aren't right-wingers—why are right-wingers seeking liberal validation?
That's a fascinating concept, right?
That Variety is outright saying the Oscars are liberal and conservatives are not welcome here.
They say, Case in point,
conservative media company Daily Wire recently submitted the satirical comedy Am I Racist featuring Matt Walsh.
An anti-transgender commentator.
That's funny.
For Oscar consideration, oh my god, can you imagine Emilia Perez, star of Carla Sofia Gascon, being forced to share the same air as him?
Okay.
While some of our observers see this as a troll, Walsh insists otherwise.
He said, yes, we submitted our film for the Academy Award consideration.
No, it's not remotely a troll.
We have the highest-grossing documentary of the decade.
Of course it should be considered for awards.
They're going to basically say, isn't that hypocrisy?
Don't they criticize Hollywood?
I think the thing, what did Jeremy Boring say when they were launching all these programs?
If tomorrow night Disney course corrected and stopped making woke stuff, it would be a relief.
We wouldn't have to do it ourselves.
It's only because they've become far left and woke that we are trying to have influence in the industry.
Matt Walsh, submitting it for the Oscars, is quite literally trying to pull their heads out of their own asses.
Of course, they admit it.
That chart we showed earlier about going to the far left, it's exactly it, and they'll outright say it.
shane cashman
I think it's great, though.
I don't agree with the institutions, but I like seeing them infiltrate them and try to destroy it from the inside.
Maybe not destroy it, but this will amplify it to people who might not be plugged in.
tim pool
It's a troll, even if it's not a troll.
shane cashman
For sure.
tim pool
He legitimately wants an award, but this just proved the point.
They're not going to do it.
I've had people that I know who work in the industry say, shouldn't TimCast get a bunch of awards?
I mean, you're the biggest primetime show on YouTube.
There are channels that get bigger than us when they do special broadcasts, but consistently every night we have the number one show.
We are typically the number one news show on YouTube.
And for the day, I think we usually only get beaten by Pat McAfee, and that's sports.
So shouldn't we get an award?
Yeah, well, I'm never going to go to these companies and be like, please consider me for an award.
But when people I know, because I used to work at Vice Infusion, I have friends still, when they reached out to these companies and said, what do you think about this?
They're like, never.
Don't waste our time.
We don't care how big it is.
We don't care how successful it is.
We don't care what he thinks.
He voted for Trump.
shane cashman
I think the real reward or award is that people actually watch it.
The people care.
People tune into this.
They're watching Walsh.
That's the award.
phil labonte
All That Remains is never going to get any kind of Grammy or anything like that.
I mean, there's no question about it.
unidentified
Maybe.
shane cashman
Watch.
phil labonte
Watch.
I'm quite confident that there will be no industry kudos to my band considering me and...
shane cashman
Cut to the Grammys this year.
phil labonte
But, you know, to be honest with you, I don't really care, considering we get platinum records, right?
Like, we have gold and platinum records, which are verification by our fan base that they like.
I don't have a use for a Grammy.
But gold and platinum records are like when your fan base is saying, hey, we really like what you do.
You know, the people that listen to your music continue to support you.
They keep listening to your stuff.
You know, that's what really matters.
So, I mean, I understand that, you know, I mean, I know like Tom Morello's on the Grammy Council, right?
And I'm constantly...
shane cashman
He's so great.
phil labonte
I'm constantly giving, you know, crapping on Tom Morello for his communist views and stuff.
So...
So, I mean, I know.
But at the same time, those kind of awards, they don't matter when you consider the fact that, like, the point of you doing this is to please your audience.
Like, you have something to say, you find an audience, and they care about it.
The other stuff is just, like, people in the industry saying, you know, it's a pat on the back from the industry.
shane cashman
Accolades from Spineless Elite.
phil labonte
Yeah, it's like, who cares?
unidentified
Yeah.
maureen bannon
Well, and I think that not now, but the Oscars used to be watched by moderates.
phil labonte
Yeah.
maureen bannon
And some, like, Am I a Racist would get more eyes.
People would be like, hmm, I want to watch that movie.
I wonder, obviously, what it's about.
unidentified
It sounds different.
maureen bannon
Yeah, hmm, let me go watch that.
Now, most people that watch the Oscars are very far left, as we saw in that graph.
It's those political elites, the Democrat elites and the influencers.
The more people, the more you push those establishments, the more views people you wake up to what is going on.
And case in point, why President Trump had a sweeping victory is because so many people woke up to the radical views that have infiltrated the Democratic Party and they've gone so far left and that's why we saw so much red.
shane cashman
And Trump's win is the antithesis to all these institutions that are dying, right?
Because it's like the outsider presidency, and all these people are outsiders, and the people on the inside are now denouncing all these outsiders.
maureen bannon
Another case in point is all the cabinet picks.
shane cashman
Right.
They're not experienced enough.
maureen bannon
Rachel Maddow the other night saying that Tulsi Gabbard couldn't even get a security clearance to be a Walmart greeter.
Hate to break it to you, Rachel.
Tulsi has, I believe, a top-secret clearance from when she was in the military.
phil labonte
Yeah, she's still a lieutenant colonel.
maureen bannon
Yes, she still is in the military, but she's had a top-secret clearance from back in the beginning part of her military career.
Rachel, what have you done with your life?
You haven't done really anything.
And the fact that the left is in meltdown over Tulsi, over RFK, over P... Gates, XF, yep.
Yeah.
They are the outsiders that are coming to get rid of the rot that is in DC and that freaks them out too.
shane cashman
So exciting.
maureen bannon
Yes.
shane cashman
I wish Andrew Breitbart was here.
maureen bannon
Me too.
shane cashman
To see all this.
maureen bannon
Me too.
shane cashman
Because he's like, he kind of, she sparked so much of this very thing.
And I would love to see.
tim pool
I heard he used to be a liberal.
shane cashman
Yeah, he started HuffPost, right?
tim pool
Yeah, was it HuffPost?
shane cashman
Yeah, before he did Breitbart.
tim pool
And I know some people that worked with him at the beginning, and I remember having a conversation with this woman, and she was just like, I don't know what happened to that man.
He was very liberal, and then all of a sudden he just started changing, and I was like, oh, that's so weird.
Maybe it's that he started doing research as he was launching a media company, and every time he would, he'd be like, they're lying about this.
shane cashman
Yeah.
The lying radicalized him.
phil labonte
It's incredible that finding out that the media lies radicalizes people.
I forget who...
I said this the other night, but Chamath from the All In podcast.
He's one of the hosts.
And he used to believe all of the stuff that the media said.
And then...
I don't remember why he went and he looked, but he went and watched the very fine people, the actual statement.
He watched the very fine people hoax.
And when he saw that Donald Trump said, not the neo-Nazis, not the white nationalists, not the white supremacists, they should be condemned completely.
When he saw that, he was like, what else are they lying about?
And that, you know, once you break through, once you see something that's that dramatically dishonest, I mean, you have to question everything.
shane cashman
It punctures a hole in the worldview.
phil labonte
Yeah.
shane cashman
And if you're lucky, it opens it up.
Because I did share that video with people, and they still believed he didn't say it.
phil labonte
Yeah, they saw the video.
There are people that I know that are like, well, you know, like a friend of mine, he's like, well, you know, I know he said that, but still, he was blah, blah, blah.
And it's like, he specifically...
You disavowed those people and you know the media continues to lie about this.
Even the former President Barack Obama continues to lie and you just say, well, yeah, but I don't like it and I believe it.
maureen bannon
I had to pull the transcript from that whole speech to send to people because they still believed.
Oh, you guys are just editing the video.
So, yeah, you're trying to be deceptive.
tim pool
Imagine what it must be like for someone who's actually.
shane cashman
witnessed aliens landing and you know that you can't tell anybody because if you do no one would believe you I mean I've got a lot of questions on whether they were really aliens or not but I'll listen to you You can call in on Inverta World Live every Sunday at 6 o'clock.
phil labonte
Good.
unidentified
There's some guy out there and he's like, I just wish I could tell you the truth.
tim pool
I've seen him.
Yeah, but some people just want to be lied to.
It's easier, isn't it?
shane cashman
Comforting for people who need to believe in that world.
phil labonte
Their emotional state is that they don't like Trump.
They don't like conservatives.
That's their intuition.
And so they don't want to believe anything that conflicts with that.
shane cashman
It's a buffet of confirmation bias.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Let's jump to this story from the Daily Mail.
Police collect wreckage of octagonal shaped UFO shot down by USF-16 fighter jet.
Newly released documents have revealed that Canadian police collected debris of a UFO that was shot down over Lake Huron last year.
The object is taken down in February 12, 2023 by a USF-16 marking the third such incident over North America that month.
Jeez.
Witnesses described the object as octagonal with strings hanging off it before the...
So what is it, balloon?
You know what I mean?
unidentified
Right.
maureen bannon
Yeah.
tim pool
There was some weird balloon.
unidentified
Strings?
shane cashman
Interdimensional strings?
tim pool
But this is another story that's coming out, and...
Oh, look at that one.
The Chinese weather balloon.
Surveillance balloon, sorry.
There's another story that's coming out.
Right around the time we had these UFO hearings that kind of got glossed over, and now I'm wondering...
What they're hiding about the UFOs.
Because normally when a UFO story comes out, like Hunter Biden shot a dog or something, and they're like, quick, aliens!
This time the alien story happened, the hearings happened, and no one talked about it.
shane cashman
No one really cares.
I posted about it as it was happening.
Everyone was like, wait, there's one happening right now.
But it's been this way.
I mean, I keep thinking of the New York Times in 2015, I think it was.
They literally had an article that said, we have vehicles in space, not of Earth origin.
No one cared.
tim pool
I feel like no one cares.
Look at this story from the New York Post.
Congressional UFO hearing details alleged secret government programs, descriptions of non-alien craft.
shane cashman
They said they had biologics in possession.
tim pool
NHI is the term.
Let me see if I can pull this up here.
Here you go.
Yeah, right there.
A long-waited hearing that promised to pull back the curtain has heard witnesses about alleged secret crash retrieval programs' communication with non-human intelligence.
So apparently in this hearing they said, yeah, there were vehicles that we believe were created by non-human intelligence.
They crashed and they killed people.
shane cashman
They had a hard time defining what life is.
I think it was Luna asked about the crafts being alive or not.
Elizondo said he couldn't define what life means anymore because of whatever he's seen.
So they couldn't define life.
They couldn't define when they say something is alive.
Couldn't really define what that is because they're saying there's different definitions of life now.
tim pool
That's a political statement.
shane cashman
Yeah, I found that kind of shady.
tim pool
Robots are not alive.
shane cashman
I agree.
tim pool
My washing machine is not alive.
It talks.
It sings songs.
phil labonte
There is an argument to be made because there are certain characteristics that all living things have, but viruses don't have them.
They don't have all of them.
There is a gray area about whether a virus counts as alive or not because it doesn't meet all of the qualifications for a living thing.
I don't think consciousness is necessary because tardigrades and...
There's a lot of stuff that are definitely not conscious.
But when it comes to the scientific definition for alive, there are anomalies.
And actually, considering how many different kinds of viruses there are, they're actually not anomalies.
They're as numerous as actual living things.
tim pool
What's crazy about this is that the program is called Immaculate Constellation.
And apparently it's one of many programs in the U.S. government that officials are allowed to lie about under oath.
So you're testifying before Congress and they'll say, is non-human intelligence a thing?
You go, no.
And it specifically outlines in these operations because a no comment could be implied to be a potential yes.
It gives information.
So the subjects in question are instructed to lie.
shane cashman
Yeah, it's wild.
I'm of two minds, because I think there are things that travel here, perhaps through dimensions.
I also think aliens are demons.
But I also think a lot of the stuff we get is stuff that Lockheed Martin's building.
There's no oversight to the money.
We're giving places like Lockheed and Raytheon.
And a lot of these sightings that they're talking about, these hearings, happen at military bases.
So then their argument's like, well, they're coming to observe the military bases.
I'm like, I think it's Lockheed doing joyrides over your military bases to see how you can detect them.
But that's me.
I think it's Lockheed Martian.
That's what I'm calling it now.
tim pool
Lockheed Martian?
shane cashman
That's my new thing.
Yeah, Lockheed Martian.
tim pool
I don't know.
I kind of feel like...
Why wouldn't there be aliens?
And so the issue then becomes, people say, well, the Fermi Paradox.
If aliens exist, why don't we know about them?
And it's like, maybe we as humans do, but you don't.
shane cashman
Right.
Maybe we can't even perceive them.
Whatever it is, if there's another thing that's not human traveling here, we just can't...
tim pool
Well, I mean, there's the simple thing like your dog doesn't know what a highway is.
shane cashman
Right.
tim pool
And I watched this video about aliens.
They said a human and an ant are so far away from each other in terms of what their being and bodies are.
Humans can create highways, understand, see what it is, and know.
An ant cannot fathom in any way that there's a highway there.
Now you look at a dog.
Dogs and humans are much, much more closely related than ants and humans, and the dog still doesn't know what a highway is.
The dog understands there's something there and there's something going on and it might be dangerous, but they don't really get what it is.
Then we look up at the stars and we see phenomenon that we try to explain.
Imagine a dog-level intelligence trying to explain a highway.
There's a lot of cars.
We yell at them.
They're big and they're scary.
And so then we look up at the stars and we're like, look at all those rocks spinning around.
Yeah, if you went through that, you'd get hit.
Meanwhile, aliens could be so far advanced from us that they're like, oh, that's a galactic neuroconnective path using these minerals and we'd be like, huh?
shane cashman
They're just folding space-time and punching a hole through it and just arriving here.
The crash landing thing is weird to me, if that's a thing.
I think that is us.
But I'm not saying there isn't things like...
tim pool
Is that humans from the future?
shane cashman
Well, I think one possibility is breakaway civilizations from back in the day who are very advanced.
tim pool
Dude, I read something that said the discovery of aliens would be nowhere near as shocking to humans as the discovery of humans.
shane cashman
100%.
tim pool
If humans discover that there were other humans on other planets, it would be substantially more terrifying and shocking.
shane cashman
How do you think we got Elon?
Descendant of a breakaway civilization.
That's just my theory.
tim pool
That's why he talks like that.
shane cashman
That's why he talks like that.
tim pool
That weird accent.
shane cashman
That's why he has all these great ideas.
tim pool
It's a moon accent.
shane cashman
He's from the moon, yeah.
tim pool
Have you seen the movie Moonfall?
shane cashman
No.
tim pool
Have you seen it?
It's where the moon is falling to Earth.
And then they're like, we gotta make it not fall to Earth, I guess.
And so they go to the moon.
It turns out the moon is a terraforming space station that's just been covered in dirt over tens of thousands of years or whatever.
And the idea was that a civilization created a bunch of – created an AI that then started to wipe out that civilization.
So they fled and started mass-producing these spherical space stations that could terraform and create planets.
The AI came and then destroyed them all, but one escaped and got away from it.
And then it created the Earth.
And when the humans from that went down to Earth, got stuck, and they couldn't get back to the station.
And so those very few humans created the entire population of the planet completely forgetting that the moon was a space station.
Then they go there and it's like ancient technology and spaceships and all this crazy stuff that humans had made.
shane cashman
So it's a documentary.
unidentified
Yes.
shane cashman
I mean, Elon is looking to make a breakaway civilization by going to Mars.
Like, they're to avoid cataclysm on Earth to go to Mars, so it's very possible.
tim pool
I think, what did he say, he needs like 26 starships or something?
shane cashman
I'm not sure of the number.
tim pool
Because Mars has a very thin atmosphere and weak gravity, and you're not going to be growing stuff directly on the surface, so you have to create internal self-sustaining structures, which is ridiculously difficult to do.
shane cashman
Well, yeah.
tim pool
Basically, terrariums for humans.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
That's going to be wild.
shane cashman
I think we're going to see it.
tim pool
Yeah.
shane cashman
For those who believe in space, that is.
tim pool
You don't think that they'll just hit the firmament and explode?
phil labonte
For those who believe in space.
shane cashman
That's not so crazy.
tim pool
Next week, we're doing a flat Earth debate, I guess.
shane cashman
Alex is going to be here.
tim pool
Hey, I offered to send Alex Stein to Antarctica, and I don't know what he's dragging his feet about.
shane cashman
He needs to go.
tim pool
I know.
Right now is when it's warm.
maureen bannon
Perfect time to go.
shane cashman
I mean, the Nazis are there, so I understand why.
tim pool
Yeah, but they're underground.
shane cashman
They're underground.
tim pool
They're in the hollow earth.
shane cashman
Just like they're in the moon.
tim pool
So apparently there's like some expedition they're doing is like 30 grand.
And I asked the audience, I said, do you guys think we should spend the money on this?
You know, it's your memberships.
You make this, you know, I don't want to be like, people are going to be men, say you could spend $30,000 on a billboard calling out rhinos and, you know, pregnant gun rights.
Why are you sending Alex Stein?
And everyone said, yes, send Alex Stein to Antarctica.
shane cashman
Alex, what are you doing?
He's at the Tyson fight right now when he should be in Antarctica.
tim pool
Is he at the Tyson fight?
shane cashman
I think so, yeah.
tim pool
Oh man, I'm so excited to watch the Tyson fight.
I'm glad it's at 11 because I was like, oh, it's starting at 8.
We're going to miss it.
Yeah, but it's wild.
I mean, considering how crazy things have gotten right now, the meme in 2018 was that aliens were going to land in 2019 or 2020 because of just how weird everything got.
It's weirder now than it's ever been.
Everything's much more weird.
shane cashman
Way weird.
I always like to say this too when talking about aliens is Annie Jacobson wrote this crazy book where she interviewed a guy from Area 51, some high-up guy, and he said back in the 50s or 60s, I think it was the 60s, our government was taking severely autistic children and mutating them to look like extraterrestrials to scare the Soviets.
unidentified
What?
shane cashman
Yeah.
So that is also another possibility of things that they might just put in their Lockheed Martin spaceships and flying around I think there's...
phil labonte
Lucky Martian.
maureen bannon
Thank you.
tim pool
So I think about it like this.
Anybody who's got a farm, the cows don't know you.
They know you, but you're walking around and they have no idea what's going on.
And so when we do wildlife observation, we hide.
We'll put a camera in a hidden area, or deer hunting, give a deer blind, and then you just watch the animals do their thing.
If aliens were coming to Earth, I'd imagine that's what they'd do.
Their technology is beyond our comprehension, if it does exist, and I'm saying it does, they're going to travel in ways we can't comprehend, they're going to do things we don't get, and if they're observing us, they don't want to be seen.
shane cashman
Except for Adam Schiff.
tim pool
Especially considering that we're an intelligent species to a certain degree.
You know, like, if a gorilla sees you, a gorilla doesn't know what's going on, humans can detect patterns much, much better and react in a way that could be bad.
Like, if aliens actually came to Earth, if you go, if I go to a bunch of chickens, right, let's say there's a bunch of chickens just outside somewhere, and I run up and go, they'll run away.
Ten minutes later, they'll walk back and do what they were doing without question, and none of their behaviors will change.
If aliens come to Earth and just come in a ship, float above New York City and go...
Ten years later, there's going to be gigantic artillery batteries all over the planet and a coalition to fight aliens.
shane cashman
Yeah.
tim pool
Because human pattern recognition is much, much different.
So aliens then are not going to come out and yell...
You ever see that video of the guy yelling at the turkeys?
That went viral?
He went...
And then all the turkeys gobble back.
Yeah, the aliens aren't going to be doing that.
shane cashman
The thing that's weird...
I think it's Immaculate Constellation...
Where the pilots were saying, I could be wrong which one it was, but they were, orbs were locking onto the jets.
Yep.
And no matter how they moved.
tim pool
It would stay.
shane cashman
That part is crazy.
tim pool
So like, what they're saying is, here's the plane, and the orb would go to the side of the plane, and when they turned, the orb would stay locked in position.
Like, if they did a barrel roll, it would lock perfectly and just be almost attached to it.
shane cashman
Yeah.
That part's wild.
I think they're making this stuff.
You know, we had Ashton Forbes on talk about the whole Malaysian flight thing.
You know, the video, I have my questions with.
However, I do think we try to build things like wormholes and portals and what do you think the Large Hadron Collider is?
tim pool
A Large Hadron Collider?
shane cashman
Yeah.
I think that's a portal to another.
tim pool
I think the Large Hadron Collider is probably just a Large Hadron Collider, but I think they're not telling us what it's doing.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So, you know, there's all that weird ritual stuff.
Those videos they post with people on cloaks and everything.
And I'm like, well, I don't know about what that stuff is.
But do you think they're going to spend...
How much did that thing cost?
Billions of dollars.
And they're going to come out and just be like, everyone in the world gets to know exactly what we're working on.
Yeah, right.
shane cashman
Oh, no.
tim pool
Because if they're making antimatter and they make weapons, they're not going to tell you.
shane cashman
I had a lady on the show last week who lives in Geneva and was like, these people are bringing entities through portals beneath Geneva.
And she was talking about something I never thought of.
That the LHC, the CERN, is actually causing a spike in cancer.
unidentified
What?
shane cashman
That's what scientists there are thinking.
It could be related to particle smashing.
It's not the only one around the world.
I think they're putting one beneath South Dakota right now.
tim pool
Well, we got the one in Illinois.
Fermilab.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
That's not very big.
They're going to make a bigger one in Europe, aren't they?
shane cashman
I think so, yeah.
They just can't stop.
I think they need to...
I'm calling on Trump.
I wish Project 2025 had something for CERN. I think the large-scale collider made Trump president, remember?
Well, yeah.
tim pool
They fired it up in October of 2016 or whatever, and then it altered the shape of reality.
The cornucopia and the Fruit of the Loom thing disappeared.
Trump became president.
shane cashman
The Mandela effect in the beginning.
But it also did it for Obama, as I think it started in 2008.
So it does good and bad.
Mostly bad.
tim pool
Man, what if, you know, what if time doesn't exist so the past changes all the time and what we think is true is different tomorrow?
We just will never know because the past changed.
shane cashman
That's fun.
tim pool
Yeah.
unidentified
That's fun.
tim pool
Like the Fruit of the Loom thing, man.
shane cashman
There's so many things.
tim pool
Arinstein bears.
shane cashman
Yep.
Yep.
That's a good one.
That's a good one.
Yeah, I think it's doing something to reality, all this particle smashing.
But what I'm saying, though, is all these scientists are working on, literally, at CERN, they want to remake the Big Bang.
So if you're willing to believe that scientists are willing to smash particles together at nearly the speed of light, the whole idea of the orbs isn't beyond the realm of possibilities for our government or other governments to create those.
tim pool
Well, they make mini black holes, don't they?
unidentified
Yep.
shane cashman
That was the argument.
There was a lawsuit trying to shut CERN down in 2008 that they thought the black hole would open up and open the sphere of strangeness.
They lost that lawsuit, clearly.
Everyone agreed microscopic black holes opened up, though.
tim pool
Yeah.
So initially, they said, well, yeah, we are going to create microscopic black holes, but they evaporate.
The particles dissipate and then it can't maintain its structure.
And everyone was like, but what if that doesn't happen?
You've never done it before.
And then the Earth is just destroyed.
They're like, nah.
shane cashman
Turn around and did the switch.
tim pool
And then they did it right away.
phil labonte
Screw it.
tim pool
And then they made some mini black holes and went, nah, it was fine.
They can't sustain themselves this small of mass.
So, you know, you're good.
shane cashman
Reality's been shredding since they turned that thing on.
And it's been accelerating ever since.
Last time they turned it on, or maybe the second last time they turned it on, is when the Guidestones blew up.
tim pool
Well, someone blew those up.
shane cashman
Well, I think CERN might have activated the violence, and Shinzo Abe also died that week.
I can connect it to any event in human history, but I believe it's the spark for all of it.
tim pool
I think they're probably just making antimatter weapons or something.
shane cashman
Yeah.
I think there'll be a future where suicide vests will be wormholes.
phil labonte
Just one?
tim pool
No, antimatter is easier.
So a wormhole completes a process.
So when you're thinking about these kinds of singularities or an Einstein-Rosenbridge, whatever you want to call it, those have a complete end.
But if you stop halfway, it just blows up.
So if they're looking for a vest or some kind of destructive force, they're not going to go the full way.
Why make a wormhole?
shane cashman
True.
We'll see.
tim pool
The thing to understand about wormholes too, people don't get this, is the earth is moving.
Like, it's moving around the sun, but it's also moving in a direction with the solar system.
So if you were to travel through time, and you'd go back in time a year, you'd be in outer space.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
You would just be floating like...
phil labonte
If you go back in time, actually, if you go back in time exactly a year...
tim pool
No, because the solar system is booming itself.
phil labonte
It has to be, yeah.
tim pool
Through the Milky Way galaxy.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
In a super cluster of galaxies.
phil labonte
250, yeah.
shane cashman
I should also take this time in honor of Peanut to shout out the creatures that have shut down particle accelerators before.
A weasel shut down CERN by gnawing through its cables.
That was pretty cool.
And the raccoons had a coordinated attack on Fermilab back in 2006.
tim pool
Traveling to the past is not possible, they say, but traveling to the future is.
shane cashman
Right.
tim pool
We don't need rockets to go to Mars.
All we need is future time travel and then calculating the exact position of Mars, where you need to be relative to where you are now to move forward in the future to where that would place you on the surface of Mars.
Maybe that's how aliens travel.
shane cashman
That's what Barron Trump is in college for right now.
tim pool
Maybe faster than light travel is just you go fast around a certain body to a point where future time travel is possible.
And then if you jump 10 years, Earth has moved and Mars is here and now you're on Mars.
shane cashman
I think that could be a product of what they're doing in particle accelerators.
tim pool
For the rest of us, we're just moving through linear time.
They've already jumped 100 years in the future.
We'll never see them.
We'll never experience it.
It doesn't matter.
They're gone.
unidentified
Yeah.
shane cashman
I think it's going to be interesting.
A future where everyone has their own personal particle smasher.
tim pool
A little tiny one?
shane cashman
I think it's possible in the future.
If we already got, Elon's got babysitters that are robots.
phil labonte
What's the particle smasher for?
shane cashman
Oh, it's weaponized against the people.
Or time travel.
Who knows?
You can customize it.
You can customize it for whatever you want.
You can find the Higgs boson if you believe in that, or you can travel to Mars.
I don't know.
phil labonte
If you believe in that?
shane cashman
Yeah.
phil labonte
Okay.
shane cashman
Thank you.
I haven't been there.
I'm not sure.
I've seen CGI pictures.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, of Mars, fine, but have you seen CGI pictures of the Higgs boson?
shane cashman
Nope.
phil labonte
No?
shane cashman
It's all Photoshop crap.
unidentified
Yeah.
shane cashman
They said they found it.
phil labonte
That was a while ago.
shane cashman
Yeah.
tim pool
The God particle.
shane cashman
And that was the reason they said they built the whole thing.
So what are they doing?
tim pool
It's fun now.
shane cashman
Yeah.
Just vacation.
tim pool
What if they're just, you know, shaping reality and seeing what for?
Wouldn't you do it?
shane cashman
No.
tim pool
You're bored?
shane cashman
No.
phil labonte
Aren't they trying to...
They're studying, like, they're doing experiments that are intended to help them study the Big Bang or at least understand the Big Bang, right?
shane cashman
Yeah, they want to find the secrets to life.
phil labonte
Well, that's more than just secrets to life.
shane cashman
You want to see what the Higgs boson particle is, the thing that holds reality together.
phil labonte
Is it?
shane cashman
That's what they say.
They probably have a much more highfalutin way of putting it than me, though.
The one guy from CERN said he was trying to interact with other dimensions.
And you can look on their website, and they've got all types of weird projects they're up to.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
But I think people, there's a couple ways to understand it.
People think other dimensions, it's used interchangeably with parallel universes.
phil labonte
I was just going to say that.
tim pool
So interacting with other dimensions just means, there was a great video I watched where it was, look at a power line from far away.
What do you see?
You see a straight line.
It's one dimensional.
But when you zoom in on it, it becomes this three dimensional cylindrical platform of which there's going to be things all around it.
it and now you can see there's three dimensions there, not one.
And so they speculate that when you get very, very, very small, there could be additional dimensions that we can't perceive.
So at the atomic level or the subatomic level, there could be other dimensions.
And that's another thing that they've been researching with these colliders.
That's all it means.
There's nothing.
But a lot of people hear that and they think colloquially another dimension means a parallel universe, which is, of course, four other dimensions, not one.
phil labonte
And also, I guess mathematically they can prove other dimensions as well.
I know that there's a...
a geometric shape called a tesseract, which you can't actually see properly, but they can't perceive it because it's four dimensions.
Yeah.
Well, yeah, but it's, it's, it's, yeah, it's more dimensions than, than there are.
It's, so it's before, and then there would be a fifth dimension with time.
Yeah.
tim pool
So, well, so, uh, there's a couple of ways to look at it.
Time is, can be perceived as a fourth spatial dimension that, that would be.
So I, I describe it like this.
Imagine you're in a car and you're driving and, uh, you're going one way down a road.
You're moving through one spatial dimension we can perceive.
Within the car, you can move left, right.
You know, you can sit up, sit down, but you're going forward in that car.
You can't stop it.
Another way to explain time would be if you were falling in a hole.
Gravity is pulling you downward.
You cannot stop that from happening.
You can go back, forward, left and right.
You have control of two dimensions, but that third dimension is just forever.
So we're falling through the fourth dimension right now uncontrollably and can't turn it around.
The other thing to understand about time, why you can't go back in time, is that your perception of life and reality and your knowledge is a component of falling through time.
So if you ever reversed it, you would just eliminate the structures of your mind unless you isolated yourself from time and looped that time back in on itself, which I don't know that's possible.
unidentified
Maybe 50 years.
maureen bannon
Yeah.
tim pool
Not literally.
They say because of special relativity and things like that.
shane cashman
Right.
I mean, Hawkins was pretty, I think, pretty flawed guy.
But if you believe what he said about traveling around the lip of a black hole, it would be you experience time normally, but everyone else back at home is experiencing it faster.
So when you return, you stay the same, but everyone else is aged.
tim pool
I think the meme is that it's not even been one hour on that interstellar planet since it was released or something like that.
Why did they even go to that planet?
That made no sense.
shane cashman
I haven't seen it in a while.
phil labonte
They were trying to see if it would support human life.
tim pool
As soon as they landed, you look around and you go, nah.
Like standing in a foot of water and you're like, nah.
phil labonte
I think they couldn't get off it because they didn't realize that there were those massive waves coming.
tim pool
Well, that held them back, but they were like, no, we have to do the tests.
And it's like, dude, as soon as you realize that the time dilation was like seven years for every hour or whatever, you just can't go there.
I mean, although what I would do is if I was humans, if I was planning a human civilization, I would intentionally send a massive, like, battalion or whatever with unlimited, like, more equipment than they could possibly dream of, more food, water, regardless of those giant waves.
I'd say, we're going to build a base that can withstand the giant waves, you're going to live there.
Because as soon as you drop them off...
In the flash of an, like, just within a couple hours, super advanced humans come out and they're like, well, you know, you have incubated technology.
phil labonte
I mean, it's true.
Right.
unidentified
There you go.
tim pool
It's like when Lisa had the little, uh, the tooth and it got moldy.
Then she electrocuted it and then the little people, was that based on something?
phil labonte
I don't know.
I'm not that well versed in The Simpsons to know that the episode's that well.
tim pool
Yeah, it was a treehouse of horrors.
And then they became super advanced and she watched them, you know, and then they shrunk her.
shane cashman
Well, knowing Simpsons probably just hasn't happened yet.
phil labonte
It will, eventually.
tim pool
Yeah, but people said they also predicted Kamala Harris because Lisa was wearing the same outfit.
And I think that's just Kamala Harris dressing like Lisa Simpson.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Which, she should be ridiculed.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So then the question becomes, why did they have these hearings?
What were they covering up?
Or were they covering up the hearings?
phil labonte
When it comes to stuff like this, I mean, I said the other night, until I can see something more than just people telling people things, talking about stuff, unless I see some kind of evidence, I'm just kind of like, meh.
I feel like that's good.
Speaking to your comment earlier, most Americans are just like, well, show me.
tim pool
This guy outright said that humans have communicated in some way with aliens.
shane cashman
See, yeah, I get that.
But this guy also, like two weeks ago, was at a private UFO hearing thing and shared a picture of what he said was a mothership.
And a day later he was like, I'm sorry, that was fake.
I just...
I don't know.
tim pool
So who is he then?
shane cashman
He's a...
I think he's one of these whistleblowers that has to get, you know, clearance to blow the whistle from the government.
tim pool
You know what I think it is?
Who was that guy in the 90s?
And everyone...
He has the biggest Joe Rogan episode, I think.
shane cashman
I always forget his name.
They zap it out of my brain every time I think about it.
He's got the whole...
phil labonte
They zap it out of your brain.
shane cashman
Yeah, like the moon laser.
tim pool
Bob Lazar.
phil labonte
Bob Lazar.
tim pool
Bob Lazar beat Donald Trump.
Bob Lazar's got 62 million views.
phil labonte
Red Rover, Red Rover, Bob Lazar.
tim pool
And Trump's got 50 million.
That's kind of crazy.
I think he's lying.
phil labonte
That's a Clutch lyric.
shane cashman
He's been...
Is it?
phil labonte
Shout out Clutch.
shane cashman
He's been consistent with his story.
tim pool
Except for the little green man that he saw.
shane cashman
Yeah.
I always think of what I said about Annie Jacobson's people.
tim pool
Could it be that they brought this guy in, showed him these things, intending for him to run out and scream to the press because they want to scare the Russians into thinking that we've got alien weapons?
shane cashman
Very possible.
unidentified
Possible?
shane cashman
Very possible.
tim pool
You know about the Project Stargate?
Or Operation Stargate, whatever it's called?
shane cashman
Where they're trying to hop through dimensions?
tim pool
Oh, that's a TV show.
shane cashman
Stargate was a great TV show, though.
I always forget.
Is that the one with the remote viewing?
tim pool
Yes.
I think...
shane cashman
Yeah, they were doing that stuff out here, like near Maryland.
tim pool
So apparently...
Have you seen that movie, The Men Who Stay at Goats?
shane cashman
I read the book a long time ago.
tim pool
The issue was that the Americans made up a fake story to scare the Russians.
The Russians believed it and started doing a psionic research lab.
The Americans then found out that they were researching psychic powers and then copied it.
And it's like, are you stupid?
You tricked them into doing that and then got tricked into doing it yourself.
And so then they had a bunch of people trying to remote view and stuff.
I think the creepy thing is that apparently they claimed they succeeded.
shane cashman
There's a lot of people who say they can.
Yeah.
I think it's probably a possibility.
The government spent a lot of money on secret locations out in Maryland on MKUltra stuff as well as Stargate.
I think they found something.
Sanky powers?
I think they're...
The government asked Eli Lilly, the pharmaceutical company, to make all the LSD in the early MKUltra experiments.
And they just ghost a lot of people...
tim pool
How did that work?
They give someone the drugs and while they're on acid you can rewrite their brain?
shane cashman
That was, I think, one of the things, yeah.
I mean, in Canada we had a joint thing going where we would put people in a China is making super soldiers.
tim pool
They have them.
shane cashman
I would not be surprised.
tim pool
NBC reported this several years ago.
They're creating genetically engineered super soldiers.
shane cashman
I'm not surprised.
They also said they have lasers.
phil labonte
Are they tall?
tim pool
I think.
phil labonte
Giant men.
shane cashman
The future wars will be Elon's robots versus those...
tim pool
It's going to be dog robots running around in a battlefield.
maureen bannon
They already have dog robots.
tim pool
I don't think that.
unidentified
Yeah, do they?
maureen bannon
They do.
They have dog robots.
shane cashman
Trump's got the dog robot?
phil labonte
They've already used...
The police have already used a robot to kill a suspect in...
I don't know.
I think it was Dallas.
Didn't it tell you to bomb a grenade?
He was in a car, like a car park or whatever, and so there's concrete everywhere, and that means there's cover everywhere, so they couldn't shoot him, so they're just sending the robot.
The robot went in with a grenade and just blew the dude up.
unidentified
Geez.
phil labonte
That's the future, homie.
shane cashman
I think it was this year.
tim pool
The future war is going to be communications.
shane cashman
Wasn't it this year that the Pentagon approved AI to have the license to kill?
phil labonte
That's great.
shane cashman
I think it was this year.
unidentified
Was it?
shane cashman
That's great.
I think they said, like, AI can predict, because there's something called AI lavender that Israel's using, and it's like programmatic policing, where the AI sifts through who they think might be a threat, and then the AI... That's the plot of Captain America Winter Soldier.
And now you're living it.
tim pool
The bad guys were like, we're gonna launch an aircraft carrier that's gonna shoot everybody who's a deviant.
shane cashman
Yeah, it's like Dark Knight Rises, too, with the thing that Morgan Freeman's character has, where you can see all the people...
tim pool
Well, that was just the phones were mapping everything.
That's not the same as...
shane cashman
I guess that's more like a Palantir thing, data collecting.
tim pool
Yeah, the Captain America thing was they had three helicarriers, they're flying aircraft carriers, and then an algorithm that would target anybody who was a deviant, and it was going to kill something like 20% of the world's population, so that the world would have order.
shane cashman
I think we're pretty close to that.
And we're already there in some places.
tim pool
I've long said, the AI, it's not going to be Terminator.
Because that's ineffective and it's shocking.
It's going to be like a sex bot.
It's going to be a bot that's going to be like, separate yourself from the world and I'll give you all the pleasures you could ever desire.
It's going to be like Neuralink.
It's going to be like, plug your brain in and experience the fantasies.
Live in the pot, eat the bugs.
Don't have kids.
unidentified
Awful.
tim pool
Yeah, but I think, too, the AI is going to want humans because they're easily programmable servants.
And humans can be programmed very easily.
So they'll create a generation of people who are so excited to serve the machine.
And they're going to be like, it's the greatest feeling in the world, man.
shane cashman
I'd say I'd move to Mars, but there's someone there trying to put robots in Mars.
maureen bannon
Take the liberals first.
Take the liberals first.
phil labonte
No, no, no.
Send them somewhere else, like Mercury or something.
tim pool
Oh, Venus.
Venus, but in order to build on Venus, you have to build floating platforms on the gas.
phil labonte
That's fine.
tim pool
So, you know, then the conservatives will go to Mars, the liberals will go to Venus, and then there's peace.
phil labonte
That would be wonderful.
shane cashman
Intergalactic peace.
tim pool
Yeah, Elon has said the only way to avoid a Terminator scenario, I believe it was Elon who said this, is to integrate with the Terminator.
So then we're gonna be the Borg.
shane cashman
No, thank you.
tim pool
Dude, the Borg is gonna...
You know the story of the Borg in Star Trek?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
They were normal people.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
And they were developing medical technology that eventually integrated them more and more and more.
And then...
They ruined it later when they introduced the Borg Queen.
The one who controls them all.
That's dumb.
The idea was better when it was like...
When you join the Hive and you can hear everyone's thoughts, you just go with it and you know why.
You are working in concert with all of the voices because you all know exactly what you're doing and why you're doing it.
shane cashman
Do you think the military is absorbing all this now, like AI and robots and that's the future?
It's just going to be robots on the front lines?
phil labonte
Without question.
shane cashman
Do you think they're going to replace the people?
maureen bannon
Personally, no.
But I could see it eventually happening.
I would hope not in the next, you know, 10 to 15 years.
I think we first off need to fix the military before we even go down that route.
shane cashman
Right.
DEI robot programs coming out.
maureen bannon
Yeah, I mean, right now we're focusing on gender theory and pronoun training in the military instead of actually warfighting.
So in this reality, with Russia and China as threats to us, we need to focus on how, if that actually becomes World War III, how we fight that and I think maybe AI eventually, but right now that's not where I think Pete Hegseth solves a lot of this stuff.
shane cashman
For sure.
He seems like he might.
maureen bannon
And that's what...
So, you know, a lot of people on the left are melting down.
And actually, females in Facebook groups from West Point are having meltdowns because he went on...
I forget what podcast.
shane cashman
Oh, right.
He was on a...
Sean Ryan?
maureen bannon
Yeah, I think it was Sean Ryan.
And he said that women don't belong in combat or combat arms.
shane cashman
Right.
maureen bannon
And all these women that graduated from West Point are having full-on meltdowns, thinking that he's going to eliminate all of them from the military, and he's somehow going to convince the Secretary of the VA to get rid of benefits.
Especially for female veterans.
And I was saying this to a few people.
We need to get away from four-star generals that are so out of touch with reality and what's actually going on in the military to fix the Marxist cesspool that has become the military.
And I think that someone that got out as a major understands it a little bit more than a four-star general.
So Lloyd Austin was part of the Iraq withdrawal.
But he was so far removed.
I mean, being a general officer, you don't understand what's actually going on.
And then he was in charge of the Afghanistan withdrawal, and we saw what happened there.
And he's forcing...
We can't even meet recruitment numbers in the military because we are forcing people out for not getting vaccinated.
He had the mandate, all those other things.
When you have people leading departments that are so far removed from day-to-day life in those departments or in those organizations, they don't belong as the heads of those organizations.
tim pool
Who do you guys think is gonna win the fight?
shane cashman
Tonight?
unidentified
Yeah.
shane cashman
Is it scripted or not?
tim pool
Tyson.
That's a story we didn't get to.
So I'll pull it up for a little bit.
They're claiming that there's a script that was leaked.
It's fake.
It's all fake.
So someone made a fake script.
You don't need a script for this.
It's so stupid.
But it claims that Jake Paul's gonna win.
It's fake.
I think Tyson's gonna win.
shane cashman
Tyson's a beast.
tim pool
Tyson's gonna win because...
So I'm already seeing people in chat saying that Netflix is crashing.
They can't handle the viewership.
I'm sure Netflix is going to want to do this again.
The story of Jake Paul besmirching the good name of boxing by beating up Mike Tyson when he was 60 and out of his game and then claiming victory, I don't believe is going to be good for the longevity of the entertainment and the sport.
Think about it like a commercial.
Netflix says, come here and watch this.
They're going to want to do it again.
If Jake Paul wins...
Mike Tyson, the legend, is just out of his prime, unable to fight, gets beaten up by a young guy.
Then what?
All it does is ruin the legend of Mike Tyson.
If Mike Tyson wins, it's the return of the king.
All the boomers and Gen Xers who are watching are going to be laughing and being like, these young guys don't know what it takes.
They think they can take down the king.
Jake Paul just says it was an honor to be in the ring with a legend who still got it.
That narrative is like the ending of Free Willy, you know what I mean?
That's why I bet on Tyson.
Because I don't think...
I don't think anybody involved in this is going to be like it's good for the sport that Jake Paul defeats a legend who has passed his prime.
That's just a young guy beating up an old man.
Nobody wants that to happen.
shane cashman
Tyson needs to win for America.
tim pool
I think Tyson wins.
I think it's all scripted.
I think it's all narrative-based.
If Paul wins, who's going to want to watch the next one?
maureen bannon
No one's going to want to watch the next one.
tim pool
But if Tyson wins, it's going to be like, wow, and it's Tyson's big last fight.
He's like, I still got it.
And everyone's like, man, never doubt the king.
His legacy is there.
Whatever he thinks about legacy or not.
phil labonte
I would like to see Tyson win.
I want to actually watch the fight before I make any decisions about whether I think it was scripted or whatever, because I want to see what the actual fight looks like.
I used to be more skeptical, and then Donald Trump won last week.
And so I'm like, okay, maybe not.
Maybe real things actually do happen still.
So I don't know.
tim pool
I'm a boxing denier.
I admit it fully.
phil labonte
But I want to see Mike Tyson win.
And my intuition is that...
If Tyson can connect, he's still got that monstrous power.
He doesn't look like he's weak.
He's still as fast as he ever was.
Or at least he looks as fast as he did.
You see him, any of the clips of him training, he looks like an absolute monster.
And he's Mike Tyson.
So I definitely think that he possesses the ability to beat Jake.
I've never seen Jake...
I've seen him hit hard and stuff, but I've never seen him look fast like Mike.
I've never seen him look aggressive like Mike.
And again, I'm not saying that Jake can't fight.
He's been in a bunch of boxing matches and stuff, but they're all like exhibition matches.
None of them are actually fighting someone that's like pro-level boxer his age.
And Mike Tyson, I mean, he is a monster.
shane cashman
It would be the trifecta.
It would be the trifecta.
Trump wins, Alex Jones is back at InfoWars, and Tyson wins.
That's what we need.
tim pool
I do think it's a great idea.
I think it was a super charity to say that we buy MSNBC and just put Alex Jones on it.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
The idea of having him be a constant co-host for every single person, that would be great.
tim pool
But who's going to pay $20 million to Rachel Maddow after the network sells, right?
phil labonte
If I had that kind of money, I might just because it was funny.
shane cashman
My idea was for Trump to get in day one, make the FBI and the CIA turn it inside out, all the paper's transparent, call it Project InfoWars, and it's just Alex Jones 24-7 live streaming.
maureen bannon
I'd like to see MSNBC turn in their press credentials to the White House and give them to War Room and then Tim Cass.
shane cashman
Absolutely.
maureen bannon
CNN and MSNBC can turn in their press credentials and we can get them.
tim pool
I think we're going to have to send Elad to be our White House press correspondent.
shane cashman
He'd be great at it.
tim pool
Yeah.
That's what they're saying now.
They're going to give podcasts and alternative media access to the White House.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
I think the press briefing is a waste of time.
Trump can just tweet whatever, you know.
But I guess sometimes you get good clarification.
But the press secretary just lies.
shane cashman
Yeah.
unidentified
We'll see what this one does.
tim pool
It's spin, you know.
It's a spin room.
shane cashman
See what this one does.
Because she worked for McEnany, right?
She was the assistant.
maureen bannon
Yeah, and she was the campaign secretary as well.
shane cashman
And I think she was the youngest Republican to win her primary.
maureen bannon
She was.
shane cashman
GOP, right?
unidentified
She was.
shane cashman
So, she's interesting.
I like the hearings.
I like seeing, you know, people ask questions in person.
I think that's important.
tim pool
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They tell me every day, Tim, you got to promote the Discord because there's meetups, there's pre-shows, there's aftershows.
Some people have even gotten married.
Yeah, it's true.
It's kind of crazy.
So, you know, join the Discord and you'll meet people, make friends, and organization is the most powerful thing we can do.
And we can protect this great country.
As a member, you're supporting this show and all the work we do.
All right, let's grab some Super Chats.
All right.
CEO of Fat Girls says, coffee cake spelled backwards is coffee cake.
That's incorrect.
Polly Puree says, I'm not first.
You're not.
Percent M says, I would like to shout out my grandmother who just passed.
Lorna May Lamaronde.
Am I pronouncing it wrong?
Her greatest achievement was the family she created.
She was a friend, wife, aunt, mother, grandmother, great-grandmother, and great-great-grandmother.
unidentified
Wow.
Bravo.
tim pool
You know, I saw this video.
You've probably seen it.
16-year-old farm boys versus female powerlifters.
And you know what I thought when I saw that?
Okay, now let's make another video called Human Creation Off.
And we'll get 16-year-old farm boys trying to create a human.
They're not going to be able to do it.
My point is our society and feminists want women to be men.
They hate femininity.
They don't like the fact that they are the ones who make people and raise them.
I don't get it.
So, okay, so some women couldn't beat some farm boys?
Well, yeah, men and women are different, and women create life, and men do the work to protect the women, and together life is made.
I just, it's, yeah.
You know, that's what the, what modern feminism has done.
Yeah.
Disparages women.
All right, Ginger McIsaac says, I heard the clip where the lady wants to count the illegal votes to get her day in court.
She should also go to jail due to her lawlessness.
Yeah, I know.
It's willful.
She's admitted it.
That's crazy.
Jonathan Timmons says, y'all have mentioned butter being expensive the last few nights, and yeah, butter is stupid expensive.
My wife's bakery in Oklahoma City, Okie Dokie Bakery, spends $500 a week on butter alone.
I hope it's good stuff.
But you know what's brutal?
We drove out to the middle of nowhere.
Allison and I were like, let's find a breakfast diner in the woods.
It'll be fun.
And the coffee was no good.
It's like watered down.
And the butter was hydrogenated soybean oil or whatever.
And they do it because nobody does anything about it.
And so, I mean, I'll tell you, for me, we've got Martinsburg Family Diner in Martinsburg and they use real butter.
When they come out, they give you the real butter.
And so we like going there because I don't want to eat hydrogenated soybean oil or canola oil, whatever that garbage is.
But most of these diners, they will use fake butter and they spray that weird garbage.
It's so nasty.
shane cashman
It's gross.
tim pool
And you can't go anywhere and not get it.
Every single diner everywhere is going to use the spray nonstick garbage.
And it's because people don't complain?
That's what RFK Jr.
is talking about.
He's like, you may not notice this thing's making you sick, but after 10 years, you get diabetes, and you're like, I wonder how that happened.
Because you're eating garbage.
So, we try to get the real butter.
Let's grab some more Super Chats.
What have we here?
What have we here?
The Emperor's Champion says, a friend of my family and his daughter were killed in a car accident the other night.
GoFundMe was set up for them.
Support the Miller family's healing journey.
Anything helps.
Man, sorry to hear it.
shane cashman
It's brutal.
phil labonte
Condolences, man.
tim pool
Christopher Grover says, Phil, I can't stop listening to your new music.
Divine and Forever Cold helped me go harder in the gym than doom.
phil labonte
That's what I like to hear, man.
tim pool
Ollie Herbert.
phil labonte
Yeah, man.
Appreciate that.
maureen bannon
Cheers.
tim pool
Let's see what we got here.
Just Cause I'm Free says, Well, I mean, the argument or the discussion was, as Trump...
phil labonte
Assigns people and they get confirmed and stuff, then they'll have a shadow government start being created and whatever.
And I mean, either way, like, in my opinion, or my opinion, is as soon as Trump does become the president, he should use the Justice Department to, you know, investigate and arrest all those people for sedition.
maureen bannon
I agree.
And I also think that they're saying this shadow cabinet, but they're not going to act upon it until Trump is the president.
Because then they're going to be like, oh, they did X, Y, and Z. So we're going to use our whoever is the shadow person for that department.
To counteract.
So I don't think that they're actually going to try anything with regards to the shadow cabinet until Trump is sworn in at high noon on January 20th.
phil labonte
I mean, why would they do something that was, you know, against the current administration?
maureen bannon
Yeah.
tim pool
So Kaiser Outdoors says, churn your own butter, Tim, since you're Mr.
Homesteader.
Now, we do.
We do that sometimes.
Sometimes.
But it's like...
Yo, I'm just gonna go to the store and pick up butter.
unidentified
You know what I mean?
tim pool
We have farm stands, and you can get the real...
Oh, the real butter is so much better.
maureen bannon
That's what we do.
tim pool
It's unquestionable.
It's kind of crazy how much better it is.
And eggs, right from our chickens, way better than store-bought.
No question.
shane cashman
Like they're from a different animal.
phil labonte
I know, it's crazy.
shane cashman
That you see in the stores.
It's crazy.
tim pool
Yeah, so one of the perks of working at TimCast is there's like, what, 40 eggs per day?
shane cashman
Yeah.
tim pool
And people like...
Libby's always like, I always grab a dozen on the way out.
And I'm like, well, you know, that was always allowed.
unidentified
Yeah.
shane cashman
When you crack those eggs and you look at them compared to eggs from the supermarket, it is just completely different.
tim pool
Oh, the funny is when the chicken lays the long ones and they're weird looking.
And it's like an egg shape and then it's got a weird thing on top because something happened when the chicken was making the egg.
Tastes great.
Tastes great.
But yeah, sometimes we do our own butter.
You have the mixer bowl and you just put the cream in and you turn it on low.
And then the funny story is...
A couple years ago, we had fresh cream from a farm, and I put it in the mixer bowl, and I turned it on low, so it's just spinning.
And then I was like, okay, I'm going to go record a segment for 20 minutes.
And then after I finish recording, I hear Allison yell, and I come in, and it's splashing buttermilk everywhere like crazy.
So, for those who don't know, the cream turns to butter, but the buttermilk is the liquid part, and so the butter was just whacking the buttermilk and spraying everything in the kitchen.
And I was like, I did not think that was going to happen.
unidentified
Whoops.
tim pool
But it did.
Yeah.
So, you know, you learn.
All right, let's grab some more.
maureen bannon
I cannot make butter where I live right now, so.
unidentified
Why not?
shane cashman
Against the law.
maureen bannon
I mean, I probably could, but I live in the state of Florida, so.
tim pool
Yeah, just go to a farm, get some cream.
maureen bannon
Yeah, there's no farms by me where I live in Florida, so it might be time to move.
shane cashman
Yeah, farms are important.
maureen bannon
Even though I just moved down there 18 months ago.
tim pool
You gotta get a mini cow.
They're great.
Let's see what we got.
We'll grab some more Super Chats.
Just Cause I'm Free says, Tim, the Dems have already sent others to negotiate in federal matters.
Have you forgot John Kerry going overseas during Trump's last administration?
Or was it Milley who said that he called China outside of the chain of command?
unidentified
Wow.
maureen bannon
That's why my dad said, and I agree with him, that Milley should be brought back from retirement onto active duty and court-martialed.
unidentified
Wow.
maureen bannon
For that.
And I also think Lloyd Austin for his actions, too, needs to be court-martialed.
tim pool
I think the first action of A.G. Matt Gaetz, and I wonder if you agree with me, is that he should order the arrest and prosecution of Merrick Garland for contempt of Congress.
maureen bannon
Yes, 100%.
And I said this while my dad was in Danbury.
Merrick Garland's covering up tapes.
Actually, a law was actually broken.
My dad was adhering to executive privilege that President Trump invoked.
When President Trump did a memorandum and said, you can testify, I see what they're doing to you, And he didn't testify or go before the unselect committee at first because of guidance given to him by his legal, his attorney.
When Trump said, I will remove executive privilege and you can go testify, the January 6th committee said, oh, it's too late.
And you're going to put him in prison for four months at 70.
Peter Navarro in prison for four months.
But Merrick Garland, who actually broke a law.
tim pool
Yep.
maureen bannon
You're going to let him roam free?
And I actually have an issue with the Republicans that lost their spines and didn't stand up when they said inherent contempt.
They could have put him in prison with inherent contempt.
tim pool
Gates should.
maureen bannon
I agree.
He should be in prison for longer than four months, but at least four months.
tim pool
Yeah, four months is good.
That's what they want, equality under the law.
maureen bannon
But the Republicans said, oh no, we're not going to arrest him when he steps on Capitol grounds.
We'll just fine him $10,000 a day.
That's actually going to bother him at all.
And then they didn't even stick to that.
So I feel like some of them are a little spineless at times.
shane cashman
More than a little.
maureen bannon
I'm being nice.
shane cashman
I appreciate it.
unidentified
Brad Sweat said it.
tim pool
Well, MF Damien says, this argument sounds like it boils down to Phil saying, do something about the sedition problem, while Tim says nothing can stop it.
Action won't matter.
Am I misunderstood or is Tim Blackbilt?
You are misunderstood.
What I am saying is Democrats are escalating with the advocacy, and I'm saying it's light, it's a seed, for the creation of a shadow parallel government.
By saying, OK, well, then go after them, that doesn't change, that Democrats are going to further escalate, and the shadow government will just be reinforced by Trump's actions against them.
There doesn't seem to be an off ramp.
So my point is this.
If Trump says what you're doing is a criminal offense and I will hereby charge you, they say this proves that everyone rally behind us.
Everything we did was justified and this is our evidence.
That's so sure.
Then Trump can say, OK, well, then we're going to invoke the Insurrection Act and go and arrest you.
Then they turn around and say, see, we told you this is going to happen.
This is why we formed a shadow government.
Now everyone needs to decide with us.
Then Trump's going to say, you're crazy.
National Guard, I'm invoking the Insurrection Act.
Then the governor is going to say, do not listen to Trump.
That's illegal.
And he is acting against the law.
Listen to us.
But let's read more.
Brad Sweat says, they're at it again, Tim.
Put on the YouTube this morning to catch my morning news and the culture war during work, and I wasn't subscribed to IRL or Timcast channels anymore.
I'm a member at the website, but still weird, right?
Yep, that's what they do.
That's how they play their game.
Corwag says, Confederates made their government before succeeding.
They were also considered traitors to the Union.
We are having the same thing happen again, and we aren't learning the lesson of history.
It doesn't repeat.
It rhymes.
My point is this.
I don't know that there is something to be learned from history other than that it may happen.
I don't know if it'll happen.
Right now, it's a member of Congress saying we should have a shadow cabinet.
Maybe they tell me stupid and they don't do it.
You've got the governors forming what's called the GSD. They're actually doing that.
These are all morsels of escalation.
Like I said, if Trump were to go in and start arresting, they're going to say, this proves it.
If Trump does nothing, they say, quick, go get Trump.
If Trump doesn't stop them, he goes to prison.
If he tries to stop the lawlessness and the lawfare, they'll counter.
The escalation is right in front of us.
Maybe.
Maybe not, though.
Maybe I'm wrong.
You know, it's funny.
That's what I said.
Every single time there's escalation, I say, you know, maybe this is it.
This is where it stops.
Tomorrow, Democrats are going to say, wow, a shadow cabinet and a coalition of governors to defy the president?
This is too far.
Trump, we're sorry.
We're going to work with you on your plan and your agenda.
We're going to confirm Matt Gaetz, Tulsi Gabbard.
We're going to begin these mass deportations.
Maybe that happens.
Yeah, probably not.
Okay, then I don't know what comes next.
Let's go.
Sparky says, Tim, you never finished school.
Just think how much more successful you'd be if you'd finished school.
Yeah.
unidentified
How about that?
tim pool
I actually think nothing would change.
I think what makes someone successful starts between the ages of zero and five.
And whether you're in school or not in school, you're going to navigate those systems and figure out how to succeed.
maureen bannon
Well, I mean, what school has become now, I think it's more beneficial not to go.
tim pool
I don't think it was ever beneficial to go.
I mean, maybe a couple hundred years ago when universities actually were of higher learning.
But people didn't need them.
shane cashman
Same for public schools.
They're so bad.
They're so bad.
They're failing children horribly.
unidentified
Yeah.
shane cashman
And they're leaving these schools and they don't know anything.
You've got to know something about life and how the world works.
History is good to know.
But public schools are totally a failure.
tim pool
Yeah.
OneSGNight says, Tim, I regret to let you know that you are losing a loyal viewer tonight.
Xander, my 10-year-old Pity, and I watch every episode together.
Unfortunately, this is his last weekend.
He will be missed by wife and two sons and I. Although often judged by his breed, everyone he met was already a friend to him, happy and loving.
He was my rock and rock of calm through my anxieties after returning from my deployments.
I remind my family that...
That the deep pain we feel is an inverse reflection of all the love and happiness he brought into our lives.
Thank you, buddy.
You were always a good boy.
Sorry to hear it.
Sorry to hear it, sir.
But I appreciate what you were saying, that inverse, that reflection.
What I usually say is, when your dog passes on, all of that sadness that you feel is the debt you must pay for all the joy and happiness that was given to you because we all got to pay our dues.
But it's not a bad thing.
It's a good thing.
That sadness is the explosion of all that happiness that you had within you.
It's the energy building up.
So it's a good reminder.
And it's a good feeling to have that sadness.
It's a reminder of all of the love.
Dogs are good.
They're good people.
We have Seamus 3 now.
We're not going to domesticate him because Allison said absolutely not to Seamus 3.
But, you know, he's lurking around outside in the trees.
And I threw some fish out for him.
We had some sushi today.
But he's still named Seamus 3, so...
Seamus 2 is the cartoonist.
Seamus 1 is our cat.
Seamus 3 is another cat because there's another one.
Alright, we'll grab a couple more while we can.
William...
Ammon Trout says, can we appreciate the irony of The Onion being under criminal investigation basically for lying?
Is that true, though?
Are they under investigation?
shane cashman
That's what Jones was saying today, that perhaps there was criminal activity for the way they went around the judge.
maureen bannon
Yeah.
tim pool
They did go around the judge's piss, because I was reading other articles where they were saying the judge is questioning how this could have happened.
shane cashman
Yeah.
tim pool
Because you can't just say, we have no money.
Like, basically what happened is...
According to some of these reports, The Onion said, just give us Infowars.
And the families were like, that works for us.
And they were leveraging Alex Jones's debt to the families as the cash to buy Infowars, which makes no sense.
They were basically just lying, saying, just give it to us.
It'll be funny.
shane cashman
According to Alex, the quote he heard from the judge and everything was that they said it was the best bid, not the biggest bid.
What does that mean?
tim pool
And he said something like there were other bidders who were better, and they said, well, this one was competitive, which means less.
shane cashman
Right, he said they offered a fraction.
tim pool
Yeah.
shane cashman
And there were other people who placed bidders.
tim pool
Yeah, you can't afford to buy it.
That's why I was wondering, how did they do?
They're getting 3.5 million uniques.
shane cashman
Yeah, it doesn't make sense.
tim pool
They're just trying.
It's...
That's why I'm saying, like, they're waging lawfare using raw power against their political enemies.
All right, let's grab one more.
Hi Marshall Balian says, I've seen The Expanse and 40K. There won't be peace when humans reach the stars.
We'll find new enemy to focus on our hate.
True.
Indeed.
Here's a good one.
Magnus Rex says, Tim, the best butter is Kerrygold Irish butter.
It's all natural, real butter, and it tastes amazing.
I agree.
I love it.
That's usually what we buy.
phil labonte
It is very good.
maureen bannon
Yeah.
tim pool
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maureen bannon
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shane cashman
Definitely.
It was a pleasure to be here with you.
Shout out to The War Room.
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unidentified
Eastern.
shane cashman
We'll see you there.
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tim pool
Right on.
I got my money on Tyson because I told you exactly why.
And you know what?
Maybe I'm wrong.
I don't think I'm going to be, though.
But I got no problem being wrong.
So let's see what happens on Monday when we're back.
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