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Trump ASSASSINATION Body Cam PROVES Secret Service WAS WARNED w/Kyle Seraphin | Timcast IRL
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tim pool
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These officers tried to climb on the roof.
They saw a guy with a weapon, and then they freaked out.
I'm just wondering why they didn't immediately say, get Trump off the stage, but you know, whatever.
And in this, we hear the police say that they warned the Secret Service well in advance that the roof needed to be covered.
And so, once again, another official piece of the story being dropped, which indicates Look, man, I can't tell you, okay?
We've got no official story.
But let's just say, once again, the Secret Service didn't do their jobs.
That's the easiest way to explain it.
Some might say it was an accident, some might say it was on purpose, but they did not do their jobs in every capacity, every step of the way, knowing the guy was there 3 hours in advance, 1 hour in advance, 26 minutes in advance, 10, 2, and even seeing a guy with a gun, not once did the Secret Service actually do their jobs.
They didn't attend the security briefing, they allowed a guy to fly a drone overhead, and I will stress again, they knew he snuck in.
I'm just kind of wondering what was going on, but we'll read the story, and we'll take a look at what went down with this warning.
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Sure.
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And then we have another story about the FBI allowing in A man who was on the terror watch list, and it's a lot to do with the Trump assassination stuff, but I want to save the details for this one once we get into the show because it's a bit more complicated.
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Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Kyle Serafin.
kyle seraphin
How are you doing, Tim?
tim pool
I'm doing well.
How are you?
kyle seraphin
I'm very well.
It's a long day so far.
tim pool
Yeah, who are you?
What do you do?
kyle seraphin
So I'm an FBI agent recovering status.
I got kicked out of the Bureau in 2022, and I quote-unquote resigned after a year of being unpaid in 2023.
I'm a federal whistleblower.
I've got about 17 different whistleblowing activities, and I've been pushing the envelope against the Bureau, who don't tell us the truth, it turns out, quite a bit.
And now I run a podcast, which is a very strong change from picking up dead bodies on an Indian reservation.
But that's where I'm at now.
Well, all right.
tim pool
So we got a lot to talk about then.
Thanks for hanging out.
We got a lot of hanging out.
elad eliahu
Hey, everybody.
What's up?
My name is Elad Eliyahu.
I'm a field reporter here at TimCast News.
Hannah-Claire?
hannah claire brimelow
Hi, I'm Hannah-Claire Brimlaw.
I'm a writer for scnr.com, Scanner News.
Check them out at TimCast News on the internet.
Elad didn't comply with our dress code today, but we should get started anyways.
tim pool
What was the dress code?
hannah claire brimelow
Elad told me he would text me and tell me he was wearing so we could match like we did yesterday, but I guess our friendship is over.
tim pool
He set you up?
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, he did.
tim pool
All right, here's the story from NBC News.
Body cam video shows moments police encounter Trump's would-be assassin.
Officers saying he warned Secret Service.
That's the crazy bit about this.
New body camera footage, video released Thursday by Butler Township from the day a man attempted to assassinate former President Trump.
Shows the moment police encountered the shooter before he opened fire on the Pennsylvania crowd, and includes a police officer saying he warned the Secret Service about the building vulnerability.
In one of the videos, a Butler Township officer is being hoisted onto the roof of a building near the July 13th rally, minutes before Trump was set to speak.
The officer appears to peek his head over the roof before quickly dropping to the ground and running to a nearby police vehicle.
The video shows.
The shooter cannot be seen in this angle of the body cam video, and there is no audio.
So I'd like to, uh... I'm gonna read this as well.
Later in the video, the officer appears to confirm the encounter, saying, F, this close, dude.
He turns right around on me.
Did you notice what they said in NBC News?
Um...
They said minutes before Trump was set to speak.
So hold on there a minute.
This officer saw a guy on a rooftop with a gun who pointed at him before Trump even got on stage and no one stopped Trump from getting on stage?
kyle seraphin
They may have the timeline wrong.
It is NBC.
tim pool
Fair point, fair point.
They are a fake news organization.
Let's just say this.
With NBC News' credibility on the line, they have reported that before Trump was set to speak, this officer encountered the man with the gun on the rooftop.
kyle seraphin
Here's why I say that's not true.
Because if you watch the video, the first two minutes, like a lot of body cam, it's silent, right?
So it's just the video, but there's no audio.
You don't get to hear it.
But as the audio goes live... You hear Trump.
Trump is not speaking anymore.
They're scrambling, and the shooter's already down.
So in that two-minute window, Trump was already speaking.
He had to be.
So I'm going to call this NBC scrambling.
tim pool
Oh, NBC news.
Fake news.
That's a bad fake news right there.
That's serious.
kyle seraphin
That's just lazy editing.
We don't hire editors anymore.
tim pool
Yeah.
Well, what I will say is they warned the Secret Service well in advance.
kyle seraphin
That's true.
tim pool
We know that.
So the question then is, wow, as more and more information gets released, we are left with one of the most perplexing scenarios, where the only official story we have is, for some reason, the Secret Service did not do their job.
Now, some might argue that it was all just pure incompetence, but that seems strange to me that there could be so much of it.
Now, don't get me wrong, I think the government's relatively incompetent quite a bit, but when people are screaming, he's got a gun on the roof, it's a bit more than incompetence.
When the Secret Service doesn't come to the security briefing, when they know that this guy snuck in, When they see him three hours in advance with a rangefinder, one hour in advance, once again, lurking around with a rangefinder, where did the gun come from?
How was he carrying it?
How was he able to bypass all of this security?
The idea that it was pure incompetence is... You know, you can't call it a conspiracy theory in the literal sense, but in the figurative sense, it's a conspiracy theory.
And I'll clarify this.
People like to say that if you believe the Earth is flat, you're a conspiracy theorist.
There's no flat Earth conspiracy.
Like, two guys didn't get together to conspire to make the world flat.
kyle seraphin
I've got people telling me that it's a lot of guys.
All the world governments have conspired to flatten out the Earth.
tim pool
Now, if you want to argue that NASA is lying about the Earth or whatever, there's your conspiracy theory.
But when you believe that, like, the Earth is hollow and there's dinosaurs living under it, that's just crazy.
That's not a conspiracy.
So what I'm saying is, if we want to use conspiracy theorists in the sense, the way the media does, that anybody who challenges official narratives or whatever, Then if you believe this is incompetence, you're a conspiracy theorist.
First and foremost, there is no official story.
We don't know where he got the gun, how he got it up there.
They're saying maybe it was collapsible or something, maybe he got it from his dad.
There's conflicting stories about whether he climbed an air conditioner or there was a ladder.
We have not received an official narrative, an official story of who this guy is, what his motivation was, why he was there, how he bypassed security, why security wasn't doing their job, why Secret Service didn't pull Trump from the stage.
None of it adds up.
So the only thing you can do is guess.
hannah claire brimelow
That's what I hate.
I also hate that there was so little accountability from the Secret Service.
If you guys remember, I reference this all the time, but Kim Cheadle didn't do an official press conference.
She didn't make a formal statement.
She did an ABC interview.
kyle seraphin
She was working on the sloped roof situation.
She had to work out whether that was going to pull well.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, she said, you know, the buck stops with me and the Secret Service is in charge.
But actually, local police was in charge of that video.
I mean, she tried to throw them under the bus immediately and shift the narrative away from her while also simultaneously trying to say, I'm the head of this organization and the buck stops with me.
I think, obviously, it's intentional that we have no information here.
And I think that is just going to further harm American public trust, not just in the institutions, but also in other people.
tim pool
This cop in the body camera footage even says, how the hell could you lose a guy walking over here?
He says he told the Secret Service four days in advance to post someone up there.
They didn't do it.
They didn't do it.
So this goes back even before the rally.
Secret Service was informed they needed a guy on the roof.
Didn't do it.
They were supposed to have a security briefing.
Didn't go.
They saw the guy sneak in, didn't care.
Three hours in advance, spotted a guy with a rangefinder.
So what?
An hour?
So what?
Twenty-six minutes?
unidentified
So what?
tim pool
Ten minutes?
So what?
At two minutes, they're screaming, he's got a gun!
So what?
In this video, the guy's saying that, uh, where's the other quote?
He's saying, uh, there's a, uh, let me read these quotes.
In the video, he jumps down and he says, F this.
He then runs to his radio, Uh, before you MF'er came out here, I put my head up like an effing idiot by myself, dude.
I was calling out, bro, on top of the roof, bro, were you on the same frequency?
The SWAT team member says he was pissed that he couldn't find him.
So you have a police officer.
They say in another clip released Thursday, an unidentified Butler Township officer said about 10 minutes after Trump was shot that he told the Secret Service about the building's vulnerability days before the rally.
So this guy sees the guy on the roof and yells on the radio, they don't pull Trump off the stage.
So now not only do we have regular people screaming, he's on the roof, he's got a gun, and Secret Service does nothing.
You've got a cop saying he was calling on the radio, he's on the roof, bro on the roof, they did nothing.
I'm sorry, the only thing I can say is I don't intend to go out and buy a Mega Millions ticket right now because the amount of incompetency for it were to be an accident would be the stars aligning perfectly and I might as well just go win a billion dollars.
No, I think it was intentional.
Because you gotta look at the simple solution.
Did every accident in the world happen?
Did every person stationed here at the Secret Service just have like an IQ of 70?
Or were they intentionally ignoring what was going on?
elad eliahu
I'm going to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but I think there were just so many levels of incompetencies that overlapped with one another.
Tim mentioned a few.
It was this poor communication between the local law enforcement team in Butler and the Secret Service, not knowing who was going to secure the roof of this building.
tim pool
What do you mean?
The cops said they warned Secret Service to do it.
What do you mean there's miscommunication?
Why are you making that up?
elad eliahu
No, the miscommunication was between the Secret Service who told the local PD that they should cover the roof.
tim pool
A police officer said four days before he instructed the Secret Service to station guys on that roof.
That's the story we have right now.
We can assume he's lying, or we can assume it's the truth.
I think the safe bet we can make right now is, this is body camera footage from that day, right when they saw the shooter, before he took the shot.
The guy is saying, I told them four days ago.
So I don't care about anything Kim Chill said after the fact.
This is a cop saying they were told to get a guy on the roof.
Why didn't they do it?
kyle seraphin
Well, you see some of why.
tim pool
There's no poor communication there.
kyle seraphin
We actually do see some of why.
And there actually is poor communication in that video.
So I'll break this down.
I've worked with Secret Service.
I was at Trump's inauguration in 2017.
I've been in plainclothes.
I've worked with Uniform Division in plainclothes and also in their uniform.
So I've been at multiple State of the Unions.
We've done a bunch of operations.
My team was surveillance.
So we would be on the ground, walking around.
The thing that people thought that was going on on January 6th, or what would be the right thing for them to do, which is to basically Look for people that are dropping backpacks behind a, you know, behind a tree and leaving explosives.
We would do the thing like trying to protect First Amendment civil liberties.
What I saw in that clip, which I think is very salient, number one, the guy goes up, right?
He puts his head over the top of the edge.
He looks over, supposedly sees the gunman.
I'll believe that.
The body cam doesn't show it, but there's no reason to think otherwise.
Falls back down.
What does he do?
He sprints back to his patrol cruiser.
And he gets a rifle, and he's so rattled that he's not even able to get the magazine into the rifle.
I watched this a couple of times, but he's like, I mean, he's totally rattled, but here's the thing.
He ran from the one place where he knew where the guy was, and he went to go get a rifle, which is a thing means that he was not paying attention.
He could have just laid there and covered the roof and then been there vectoring in a SWAT team.
That would be a totally heads up move.
That didn't happen.
And what we've also heard is that the Secret Service, and this is the most probable thing that I've ever heard, didn't use the local PD's radios.
When you work on a federal system, especially if you're traveling, because I used to do this for a living.
I've been to 20 different field offices working out of other places.
We never got local patrol radios.
Why?
It's the dumbest reason you can imagine, Tim.
It's because nobody wants to take responsibility for the radio and then give it back to the other guy.
So they don't take the radio.
I've seen the least competency when it comes to functioning on a radio.
So the comm situation, it makes sense that they're calling in, they're screaming across the TAC channel that's supposed to be going to Secret Service, and at best it's going into a relay station in a trailer somewhere and not getting out to those agents.
So the delayed response, it does make sense in that case.
I also agree with you that the number of screw-ups that have to happen defy credulity.
Every single level, because there are so many of them.
The advanced team has to screw up.
The guy in the day decides, oh, I'm gonna go take a pee.
It's too hot here on the roof.
I might as well sit inside.
I'm gonna leave this thing open.
The kid somehow gets a rifle up there.
He's flying the drone.
There's a million screw-ups there.
tim pool
How did we get from, they spotted him with a rangefinder, and then he had a gun?
kyle seraphin
Yeah, and they hid a backpack.
tim pool
And here's the other thing, so the Deputy Assistant Director... Yeah, dismantled and put the weapon together on the roof?
kyle seraphin
Oh, you could do that.
That's not that hard.
tim pool
No, I know.
I'm just saying they haven't given us an official story.
kyle seraphin
The story that we heard from Paul Abate, who's the Deputy Director of the FBI.
So he's the number two.
First of all, Chris Wray came in and said one thing, and he was trying to push this, like, collapsible stock thing.
And you can tell that Chris Wray doesn't know anything about guns.
tim pool
Because he talks about it, he's like, I don't know the difference between a rate of a semi-automatic... Collapsible stock, it was only like four inches, doesn't it?
kyle seraphin
Correct.
Now, the possibility is that he's got something like a law-tactable folding adapter, so you can actually fold that sucker down, and then you can actually knock off 12 inches.
But are you telling me that a kid took a 16-inch barrel plus the entire upper, which is still, you know, it's 24 inches, it's 28 inches long, and that was concealable?
I've seen one guy, I followed one terrorist subject in my three years of doing that for full-time, I followed one terrorist subject who could conceal, carry an AR-15.
How did he do it?
He was 6'8 and 350 pounds, so he looked like a WWE superhero, and he could put it underneath a jacket and not look crazy.
That's the only person I've ever seen do that.
And that kid was skinny, right?
hannah claire brimelow
Crooks?
kyle seraphin
He's not concealing an AR-15 under any circumstances.
Not even in a backpack.
tim pool
Let's play some of this footage we have here from NBC.
unidentified
This is the video I'm talking about, showing a Butler Township, Pennsylvania police officer climbing up on the roof before immediately dropping back down.
Potentially because there was concern that the shooter could turn his rifle on the officer.
There's no audio from that moment, but some video later captures the officer's immediate reaction to what he saw.
Listen to this.
It was right where you picked me up, bro.
He was on that left side.
And remember, the suspect, the shooter, was able to get several shots off in the moments after that officer climbed the roof, hurting the former president and killing a bystander.
tim pool
Here's what I think, too.
The FBI said eight, by the way.
Planned incompetence would be intentionally setting it up so that local law enforcement and Secret Service can't communicate.
So if the cops find something, Secret Service doesn't respond.
It could be instructing Secret Service they don't need to attend the morning security briefing.
It could be intentionally not placing someone on that roof.
However, the question that remains, this guy, How was he allowed, in every step of the way, to bypass security?
And this could all be explained by a single individual at a logistical level.
You get a Secret Service guy calling, hey, I see a weird guy with a rangefinder.
And then the boss goes, nah, nah, we're taking care of that, you're good.
They go, okay.
And then they disregard.
You get a team of people and you say, here's how we're securing the event, don't worry, we'll give you your assignments.
And then you intentionally don't assign someone to the roof.
All the other guys, all they know is, hey, I'm covering this roof, I'm covering that roof.
They assume someone must be doing the other job.
It still would imply someone in an official capacity was pulling the strings to make the incompetence happen.
kyle seraphin
Yeah, or they were lazy.
And so there's this thing, my buddies and I talk about the myth of competence.
Everybody likes to imagine that there's just this high-speed crew of people.
It's so often not that.
Here's some of the fog of war stuff that people have to put in, because some of the incompetency can be explained, even though it's horrific.
We saw some of it in that body cam footage, which they didn't show, which is the guys running.
They actually put a couple of pallets up on a little overhang, And so they boosted a couple of SWAT guys up.
They're all wearing multi-cam.
Then they've got pallets, and they're trying to get to the next tier of the roof, and they're screaming for a ladder.
And so, you know, all these things are just, they get mixed up in that fog of war.
The other thing that I can see happening is...
Apparently there were two sniper teams that were up there that were Secret Service.
One was sort of like a B-team, if you will, or a C-team, and they're using bolt-action Remington 700s.
So that's not what the A-team used.
The A-team uses like an SR-25, like a Knight's Armament, like higher-end weapon system.
And so they have semi-automatic capabilities, and they can shoot that far out with a .308.
So the problem is...
What I saw in the video, everyone thought it was like one dude who was taking the shot and they're like, look there he is taking the kill shot or whatever and they show the rifle moving.
He breaks contact with the glass and all this other kind of stuff and that poor guy is probably going to get lambasted about this forever.
But it looks like he broke contact because he flinched because he wasn't prepared.
He saw shots coming in and he thought it was coming at him.
unidentified
Right.
kyle seraphin
That was the nearest sniper.
The further snipers are the ones that took the shot.
I can imagine that you're sitting there looking at a roof where someone is supposed to be because there was someone supposed to be there for all the things that we've heard.
They weren't there, but there was supposed to be someone.
And imagine that you're a cop or you're a Secret Service uniformed division guy and
you're on the gun and you pan over and there's a dude in a place where a dude is supposed
to be and the dude has a gun and there's supposed to be a guy with a gun there.
But he's wearing shorts and he's got long hair and weird glasses and you're like, is
that, you know, is that Mike?
Is that like, who the hell is that?
And then you don't have comms with whoever the local sniper team that's supposed to be putting the guy up there or whatever it looks like.
And you have that moment of hesitation and that guy at the same time has the same problem of the cop coming up.
There can be a carnival of errors, like the symphony of things that line up.
I do agree that there is some incompetence, whether it's intentional or just absolutely reckless.
I don't want to speculate on it yet, but I will tell you this.
The single worst trainee that any of you can imagine, just get on your imagination hats and think of the worst person that you would ever put through the FBI Academy.
She was in my class at Quantico.
She was under 5 feet tall.
And nothing against short women.
My wife is under 5 feet tall.
But this woman was like wrestling with a toddler.
She failed every single academic exercise.
There were things that were non-failable.
They let her go to the last 4 weeks and she was removed from the academy for failing to do everything.
Doing crazy stuff and saying crazy things.
They removed her.
She went back up to the FBI's field office in New York.
Do you know what she does now?
hannah claire brimelow
Secret service, secret service.
unidentified
Correct.
kyle seraphin
She was sent to FLETC, and they were able to rehire her.
So they're hiring some people that have absolutely no business in being there, and we saw some of that.
tim pool
And I will say this, too.
I know somebody who's a very smart person, but they have no experience with guns.
And we went to a range, and I would make the assumption, based on just understanding the mechanisms of a gun by looking at it, that a reasonably smart person would not do this.
kyle seraphin
Oh, she got the slide?
tim pool
And then... And it was actually scary because... It's a good way to get hurt!
She put her hand over the gun like this, and held for about a second, two seconds, and then that's when I noticed and screamed, and then she took her hands, pointed down, and I was like, holy crap.
kyle seraphin
So this gal that we're talking about, she didn't hold on to a shotgun while sending Buck a shotgun.
It just went up in the air.
And, you know, I almost watched one of my buddies catch buckshot in the side of the head because they're standing on a common firing line.
That assumes that you're going to be pointing in a safe direction, not letting it go like this.
It took her 15 minutes to do a two-minute driving course.
So these kind of people, if you're going to take them in, and it just turns out that she was a military veteran, even though she was the weakest one I've ever seen, she was a Hispanic female, so you have three things that they are checking in these boxes.
And if you are going for these types of what we would call diversity hires, or whatever you want to call it, When that person is getting hired on and they're making every excuse, there is more flexibility for screw-ups than you would ever imagine.
It does defy credulity, but still, they're out there.
tim pool
I realize that some people are just listening, and then explain.
What I was describing is holding the gun by putting your left hand over where the slide
is, and if you pull the trigger, that's going to, it's probably going to rip your thumb
back, break it, or...
kyle seraphin
Yeah, a lot of people have what they call a slide bike, so they get their hand too high
up on it.
Competitive shooters get it, but if you're screwing it up, then yeah, you lose pieces of skin.
tim pool
Well, I think if you put your hand over the slide and pull the trigger... Yeah, you might break a finger or... Yeah, break your thumb or something.
kyle seraphin
Metacarpals or something.
tim pool
But this is just for people who don't have the experience.
Now, these are the kind of people who are going to be brought in, and they're just standing around...
kyle seraphin
30% of my class when I went through in 2016 had never held a firearm before.
Now, I'm 35 at the time, so I'm a little bit older, but I feel like if you sign up to be an FBI agent, you maybe have gone to a range once just to check it out.
tim pool
I do believe that this country is facing a managerial crisis, and a large component is COVID.
With all the mass retirements that happened, a lot of people who weren't prepared to take the next step or the next role, they shouldn't be there.
What is this called?
Is it the Peter Principle?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
kyle seraphin
That when people get promoted... Yeah, there's a mean way of saying it, but essentially you're promoted to the level of your incompetence.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
You're really good in the mailroom, so you get a promotion to, you know... Look, they do this in police... ...from other offices you can't handle.
kyle seraphin
This is the thing that happens in law enforcement in general.
Nobody can tell me that the best patrol officer on the street, that is the best at stopping drunk drivers and handles people efficiently and drives safely, is also going to be the best detective.
There's probably some overlap in that skill set.
But just because you did a great job on the street on patrol does not mean that you're great investigators.
And vice versa.
There are some investigators that are brilliant, but they should never leave the office because they're morons when they go talk to people.
And I work with those folks.
It's like, don't let them talk to human beings.
They're weird.
tim pool
I'll just say, I think the story they've given us, the only thing I'm willing to accept with this story is that the details they give us to the media are wrong because the media lies all the time.
kyle seraphin
There's more... When we get to the story with the FBI... I'm going to pull that up right now.
There's some things in there that I'm going to show you that overlap, I think.
tim pool
So I'm saying, as of right now, based on the stories we've gotten from the press and the body camera footage, I do not believe it is realistic or reasonable to conclude this was incompetence.
But let's jump to the story from the post-millennial, which should remove all doubt!
FBI allowed suspect arrested for plot to assassinate Trump into U.S.
despite being on terror watch list.
Report.
Okay, there you go.
So, for all of those of you out there who are wondering about what happened on July 13th, let me read the headline for you again.
FBI allowed suspect arrested for plot to assassinate Trump into the U.S.
despite being on terror watch list.
kyle seraphin
This is a much bigger story, and it tells of a much bigger problem that goes back at least 20, maybe 25 years.
If you give me a little bit of leeway, I'll explain why these things lead me to think what went on with Thomas Crooks is a little bit more dangerous than what they're saying.
elad eliahu
Did they bring him in to arrest him, or how long did they allow him— Three months, is what it sounds like.
kyle seraphin
They allowed him in for months.
Here's the thing.
His visa was sponsored by the FBI field office in Dallas, from whatever we can read here.
So people have to understand— He's on the terror watch list, and the FBI brought him in.
Allowed him in.
tim pool
But they sponsored his visa.
kyle seraphin
I'm going to tell you why.
And it's dumber than it makes any sense.
I was talking to a guy who's in one of the conservative caucuses, like in a chief of
staff position.
He's like, how does this work?
And I go, when the FBI charts their progress, they're looking for a thing that are called
stats.
This is something that all law enforcement, you know, this is like quotas, if you will.
And so we need to have stats that say I have X number of cases in this field and I have
X number of arrests in this type of category.
We're going after MS-13.
We're going after organized crime, blah, blah, blah.
We're doing these counterintelligence investigations.
They have a thing that's called a disruption, which means the plot basically got foiled.
And they have a thing that's called a dismantlement, which means that this network was taken apart.
And you get more points for a dismantlement than you do for a disruption, if my memory serves.
It may be backwards, but I think it's that.
So the thing is, is these guys are literally going for gold stars on a board.
And you think, okay, well, would they, you know, sacrifice public safety to do this?
If they thought they can get away with it safely, they will.
And the second thing is the oldest reason that's ever existed.
It's greed.
The senior executive service in all federal governments, but definitely in the FBI that I was able to experience, they get paid a five figure bonus.
It's like between 30 and 50, maybe $60,000 if they hit all their metrics.
So they are incentivized to get arrests in certain categories.
They're incentivized to do these sort of things.
And the other thing that we know, because we had some whistleblowers come to me and my guys, and so I represent a number of different whistleblowers in the FBI, they came out and said, the FBI went so hard on January 6th that they overdid the number of hours that they're allowed to assign to domestic terrorism.
Because they have to spread themselves to international terrorism and domestic terrorism.
They massively overdid it for DT, which is the abbreviation.
tim pool
Donald Trump?
kyle seraphin
That's right.
Same thing.
And when they went after these DT cases, they did it so badly that they sent out section chiefs from headquarters to all the field offices regionally and said, listen, we need you to go through all of your domestic terrorism cases and find connections to international terrorism so we can recategorize your hours.
Imagine like an attorney bills hours.
The FBI assigns the work of an agent against certain types of categories of cases.
So they had too many what are called 266 cases.
Those are the domestic terror.
They needed more 415 cases.
And in order to do that, they were like, hey, did you find a dude who is a white supremacist, but he was in a chat room somewhere that later on an Al Qaeda guy went into?
Because we can tie them together and make this a 415 instead of a 266.
It's the dumbest thing possible.
But when you understand we're talking about bureaucracy here, here's the scariest part for me.
This has been going on for 20 years.
There's a guy named Trevor Aronson who I always reference.
He works for The Intercept, so that's not a right-wing source, right?
And he's not like a right-leaning dude.
He's a reasonable liberal.
And he basically has called out the fact that the FBI has been doing this at least since 2006.
What they do is they go find people that are otherwise inclined to do dumb things.
And they usually find them online and they say, hey, you want to do dumb and violent things?
We want to help you do that too.
And so an undercover or a CHS will go and meet with that person, they will enable their best ideas, they will fund it, and they will push them along until the point where they're ready to go do it, and then it's like, hey, we're gonna give you the gun, and the minute they touch the gun, bam, it's flashbangs at your feet, it's SWAT team, and you're done and you're in cuffs, and now you're facing 20 to life for material support of terrorism.
The craziest piece that I've been able to kind of speculate on a Thomas Crooks.
Imagine you're Thomas Crooks.
You're a 20-year-old.
You're hanging out online.
You're a skinny dude.
That's where your life is.
We don't know enough about his internet persona, right?
But there has to be some because of his age and the way that he grew up.
That guy, he goes out and meets, let's say, an undercover or a CHS for the FBI.
And they start saying, hey, you're really pissed off at Republicans or politicians or whatever.
You want to go do something terroristic.
I want to help you.
I want to help you.
How much money you got?
I can help you.
I can help you get the rifle.
I can help you get all the right stuff.
I got a guy.
I got a friend.
Oh, you only have $800, it turns out, for you today.
$7.99, my friend.
We will hook you up.
And that guy decides, you know what?
I'm just going to take my dad's rifle.
I don't need to wait for this guy.
And maybe he listens to some of the people out there talking, saying, the people that are telling you to do violent stuff are probably fed, so you'll get caught.
unidentified
Right.
kyle seraphin
You know it's a death mission to go shoot at a former president.
You're not going to walk away from that.
tim pool
Current frontrunner.
kyle seraphin
Right.
You're not going to walk away from that experience.
You have to assume that's a one-way sort of kamikaze mission.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
tim pool
So, real quick, you're saying there's a possibility this Crooks guy, they were doing what the FBI does, where they set somebody up, but then he breaks off halfway and goes rogue.
kyle seraphin
How do you assume that you're going to control this person only because you've always controlled people?
The story is always the same.
When you get complacent, And you get lazy in the type of work you do.
For example, if you go and go after pedophiles, what you'll find is that basically 90 plus percent of them are going to turn themselves in when confronted because they're not violent people, at least not to grown-ups.
And certainly not to grown-ups like men with guns who have beards.
But there's a small percentage of them that will get violent. And the majority of them will be
violent to themselves. They will commit suicide. And that's just a thing that they do. That's just
the stats. But a very, very small percent of them, especially if you learn the lesson that most of
them will surrender, the rest of them will commit suicide, maybe 1% of that small little group is
going to get violent and decide it's a one-way mission, and they'll shoot at you. The FBI learned
that mission or that sort of lesson in 2020 when they had two agents that were shot and a couple
others that were... Two were killed and a couple were shot going after a guy that was doing child
So it's a real thing that if you get complacent and you do the same thing over and over again, you think that you have control over your guy.
And imagine that one of them squirts out.
That's what scares me about this, uh, this guy from, uh, Pakistan who was supposedly in the employment of Iran.
The FBI let him in, and then they supposedly had him under 24-7 surveillance for like three months.
And here's the thing.
I did that for a living. I used to fly around the country and watch people. We would do it eight
hours a day, three different shifts. And I've seen legit, credible terrorist sources who were
buying guns and doing training and doing scary stuff that you're like, oh, this guy should really
be watched. And I've seen the exact field office that this was working out of the New York field
office, phone it in. They have literally met at a pizza parlor in a state that I'm not going to say,
where they hung out together and didn't follow the terrorist subject, even though that I knew
the terrorist subject was running around because we had a poll cam on their house.
tim pool
So I wonder how many instances there are then where someone will commit a murder or a crime
and it was the FBI's fault, but they just wash their hands, get rid of the evidence.
kyle seraphin
Are you going to claim it? I mean, here's the thing.
tim pool
You say, don't look at me.
kyle seraphin
It's in a source room. And this is the problem with the transparency issues that we have with
the Bureau. And it's the issue that my buddies and I bring up all the time. That's why we're
not really comfortable with them doing the investigation of the Trump shooting. It's
not that they don't have the competency. It's that they don't feel that they're responsible to you
and me and any other taxpayer. They're out there going, listen, this is a federal matter.
We don't answer to individual places.
Unlike your local, you know, you could vote out a sheriff.
You could probably vote out your town council.
You don't vote out the director of the FBI.
You definitely don't get rid of the deputy director, who's the number two.
That's really the power behind the throne.
There's a direct line between Chris Wray and Paula Bate.
And Paula Bate is, you know, he's a woke dude.
I don't want to speculate things, but I've heard significant Significant, reasonable rumors that he got one of his employees pregnant.
He was into BLM stuff.
He had, you know, women whispering in his ear all the way through.
They made apologies for what happened in 2020 when they were, like, kneeling for BLM.
That was in my field office.
I knew the agents that did that.
And they all got excused because there is that at the top of the FBI.
And he said at one point, if you're not interested in going after people for January 6th, you need to find a new job.
tim pool
So one individual said, Hanlon's Razor.
And I'm just like, Hanlon's razor, for those who don't know, is never attribute to malice that which can be explained by incompetence.
Sorry, this can't be explained by incompetence.
kyle seraphin
Some of it can.
The question is, where is that line?
tim pool
Anyway, you were about to say something.
hannah claire brimelow
I was going to ask if you can talk more about how the quotas are set.
Like, is this set by Congress through budget requirements, or is it just, you know, whoever's at the top of the totem pole is like, I think we need to have this many domestic terrorism cases.
kyle seraphin
Do you know what the self-licking ice cream count is?
tim pool
It's that thing from Texas, that drag show and kids?
kyle seraphin
This is what government does.
Like there's a tongue and there's an ice cream cone, and they're on the same thing.
So the tongue licks the ice cream and the ice cream is there to be licked by the tongue.
The government sets its own situation up.
It's the reason why guys like me, we're not adjudicated to be whistleblowers.
It's because the government investigated the government and found that the government did nothing wrong.
hannah claire brimelow
Which part of the government is which one?
kyle seraphin
The FBI determines through a big process called IPM.
They decide how many cases they expect to see.
And they might as well be throwing darts at a board because there's no way to guess.
What they should say is, we want to make sure that these number of probabilities are handled and we're going to flex resources where they need to go.
Instead, what they say is, we had 800.
Domestic terrorism cases last year.
We're gonna have 950, and we're gonna divvy them up to the 56 field offices, and they're all gonna have a piece of it.
And when they hit their number, they get a gold star in that category.
And if they don't do it, they get a green, and then a yellow, and then a red.
And if you can get green and gold across the board, your bonus is made so the head of the field office gets that bonus.
So everybody down the chain is incentivized to do it, because if you're a field agent, like I was, like I never cared about this kind of stuff, I think it's dumb, but you see that your boss comes to you and is like, hey, we need to open up these cases.
They made us keep cases open That we're like, why am I keeping this open?
They're like, you need to do something for your job.
And I'm like, shouldn't I do the cases that matter?
No, you should do the cases that you have.
And that is a very different mindset than what people assume.
tim pool
You know, I just thought of something.
I have a question.
You know, the Gretchen Whitmer case, right?
kyle seraphin
Set up.
tim pool
So you had a bunch of like, you know, derpy guys had no idea what's going on, and then you get these informants, and FBI agents were actually directing what these guys were doing.
Am I correct in that?
It's been a while.
kyle seraphin
Yeah, agents and undercovers.
I'm sorry, and sources, rather.
tim pool
Right.
So what would happen?
If there are 16 guys, 12 of them are either informants or a couple of them are actual agents, and they're talking about and doing all the stuff, and then one of the guys, who's the Marx, records what they're saying, goes to the press and says, the FBI is planning to kidnap Gretchen Whitmer, I have proof, and gives them the recordings and the names of the guys.
It's literally an FBI agent plotting the kidnapping of Gretchen Whitmer.
kyle seraphin
Sure.
tim pool
What would happen if the New York Times came out and said, we've uncovered a plot of FBI agents to kidnap a politician?
kyle seraphin
That's all about target selection.
tim pool
What I mean is, when the event is allowed to continue to some point, the FBI then goes, aha, you're under arrest!
But they were the ones who were actually doing the plot.
If the plot was interrupted midway through by journalists, real ones, or by some kind of whistleblower who uploads the video footage and says, this guy's an FBI agent and he wants to kidnap Whitmer, How do they get out of that?
No, no, we were trying to set them up.
kyle seraphin
Here's the funniest thing, because you had all these people that were really, really upset about Donald Trump getting immunity for official acts.
There's a thing that's referred to as otherwise illegal activity.
Okay?
Otherwise, illegal activity is a sign-off that is delegated from the President down to the Attorney General, down to the United States Attorney's office in whatever area you're in, and then your assistant United States Attorney, which is your prosecutor, your line prosecutor for the federal government, says, yes, you can sell drugs.
You can be an undercover- because you can't sell drugs to somebody.
tim pool
But you're saying someone at the highest level of the FBI signed off on an agent- It doesn't have to go.
kyle seraphin
It gets delegated all the way down.
But that's where the chain of custody goes through.
tim pool
So what I'm saying is- It's delegated authority.
If videos appeared online showing actual FBI agents talking about how they wanted to kidnap Whitmer, how does that resolve in the public?
Is the FBI going to come out and say, actually, this is a sting operation, don't worry about it?
kyle seraphin
Probably.
tim pool
Yes, but then people are going to be like, holy crap, the FBI was caught actually trying to commit crimes.
kyle seraphin
You can read a whole book on these crimes.
elad eliahu
Well, then we get to see their dirty work, really.
You could have journalists there who'd be able to uncover their methods and then judge if it's ethical or not.
kyle seraphin
You can read their methods right now.
The book is called The Terror Factory.
It's in its 10th anniversary right now.
My buddies told me this was required reading to be on the surveillance team I was on, so that we knew that when they hit the panic button and said, we got a terrorist, like Janine in the Ghostbusters, you know, we got one, you'd get the call and you'd be like, okay, let's see what it really is.
And you get there and you're like, another one of these.
They would act like it was the biggest case ever.
And in reality, it's always the same.
Some poor sap Who's down on his luck.
He's either mentally or physically or emotionally handicapped.
Has no other friends.
The only friend he has is either a confidential human source or an FBI undercover.
And they don't want to let their friend down.
That's the only friend they got.
And their friend's talking to him to do with terrorism.
Gets him sworn into ISIS.
I mean, we had undercovers that would go in and swear in to Al Qaeda, swear allegiance to ISIS.
And they'd be like, I'm 100% in.
Let's go do this.
And the second the guy does the thing, like put money down on the table to buy fill in the blank gun or explosives or take your pick. It's
bam, they're captured and then they go and then they face those charges. Here's a really wild one
because we actually worked on this in Tampa and this will hurt people's feelings because this is
actually a there's no winner in this.
There was a guy who was legitimately psychotic and the agents who were running the case said
that he was psychotic to me as I was doing that work. They were like, yep, he hasn't slept in
He wakes himself up every 45 minutes, he prays the Quran until he cries, and he is nuts.
He gets in his car, he drives 110 miles an hour, he drives by the Pulse nightclub, which was like an hour and 30 minutes away, because he's really excited about Omar Mateen.
He's totally crazy.
They also said, you're probably not going to be able to take him alive.
And that was the first time I've ever heard anyone say that.
They're like, you're probably gonna have to kill this guy.
And I'm like, look, we're capable of doing that, but I've never heard someone say that.
By the way, he went in like a baby, like all of them do, when you throw a flashbang at their feet.
He just, he was arrested without incident.
The crazy thing is, his sister actually turned him to the FBI and said, There's something wrong with my brother.
He's doing something really dangerous.
This is in Florida, in Tampa, so they have the Baker Act there.
But everybody has these kind of, like, potential for putting people into a 72-hour cycle.
So they brought it to the FBI.
They made her what they call a cooperating witness, okay?
And two members of the family basically were trying to help this guy get out of this trouble.
Instead, the FBI set him up, bought an eBay account for $25,000, tried to sell him guns through eBay.
They took over that account from the seller and then started, like, trying to send him guns.
hannah claire brimelow
This is after the sister has come to them and said, like, he has serious issues.
kyle seraphin
Correct.
And then they ended up getting the guy into custody by getting him to buy, like, a suppressed Glock and a baby AK, whatever he was calling it.
It's like a Draco or something.
And at the end of the day, he does all this stuff.
He gets arrested.
No problem.
His sister felt so betrayed that less than a week after her brother was arrested, she went to the police station wearing her full Islamic garb.
It was like a full, like, you know, head to toe.
With a 10-inch butcher knife underneath her vestments.
And when a cop came out because she was sobbing and said, ma'am, is there something wrong?
Can I help you?
She took a stab at the guy, cut him in the arm, and he drew down and he killed her on camera.
And you guys can go find the footage.
tim pool
That wasn't the right thing to do?
kyle seraphin
Well, that's what had to happen because she drew a knife.
He didn't know anything about her.
tim pool
I'm saying the woman...
kyle seraphin
Well, she made a terrible decision.
tim pool
You don't do that.
kyle seraphin
But imagine that you went to the federal government and you're like, look, I'm going to try to help.
And you're like, my brother's got these problems.
By the way, the kid has a really sad story, too.
He was 15 years old and he was put into a terrorist internment camp in Saudi Arabia and tortured for like three or four years before he was released back in the United States.
So he's broken and he needed mental health.
There's no doubt about it.
But the fact is, is the sister who turned to cooperate with the federal government Can I ask you a question?
She got killed, so everybody loses.
And the federal government gets their prosecution, everybody got their stats, the dude's in jail for 20 to
life.
I actually offered to the defense attorneys to go down there and testify in that case with what I knew.
I'm sure the FBI would have tried to block that, I don't know how that would work, but...
hannah claire brimelow
Can I ask you a question?
How does the FBI decide what is...
tim pool
We should jump to this next story.
So this is big news from CNBC.
Advertising group suspends brand safety net after Elon Musk's antitrust lawsuit.
This is huge.
This is garm.
GARM started in 2019 in part to help advertisers avoid having their promotions show up alongside content they deemed harmful.
A global advertising association said it is suspending the operations of a unit focused on brand safety two days after Elon Musk's company, X, sued the group, alleging it organized an illegal ad boycott.
The World Federation of Advertisers, WFA, confirmed Thursday that it would halt its non-profit initiative.
This is basically what leftist activists do.
...to control narrative and manipulate people.
Well, Rumble also joined the lawsuit, and now it has been dismantled.
With Elon Musk buying X, they cannot contend with such a massive, multi-billion dollar platform filing these lawsuits.
So, you know, look, we can thank Elon for buying Twitter, turning it into Axe, bringing free speech back to certain degrees.
There are certain things that are still bad on the platform, but I think Musk's doing a really great job.
And then, there's more than just your right to speak on the platform and getting your account back.
For instance, Carl Benjamin, back on the platform after Elon Musk bought it.
Now, at the global stage, these advertiser boycotts and this woke machine is failing.
Rumble joins in.
More companies are now able to push back.
They say ex-CEO Linda Iaccarino said in a post on X, this is an important acknowledgement and a necessary step in the right direction.
I am hopeful that it means ecosystem-wide reform is coming.
So, I mean, huge news.
kyle seraphin
This is also a loss for the WEF, because they were affiliated with Garm as well.
It was one of their co-projects.
tim pool
The ad boycotts, the adpocalypse, is how they suppress voices they don't like.
They try to remove your ads.
They did this to Tucker Carlson.
He had something like 16 advertisers, and then they started attacking his advertisers.
People started getting scared of the activists and pulling out.
Now, the tide is turning, and the advertisers are—this is not even advertisers, these are activist organizations.
Advertisers don't care, they want to sell products.
kyle seraphin
This is a cartel, that's what this is.
And the cartel is doing—and they're doing a protection racket, right?
It's a shakedown.
They go and they say, hey, we're willing to bring all of our advertisers who have all signed on to these rules, and if you are going to play ball with us, then we'll bring our advertisers.
But otherwise, we'll tell all the people that signed on that they're not going to be allowed Because they've gone into binding agreements under this, and now it's dismantled.
So that's good news.
Doesn't mean it's going to fix the problem overnight, though.
There's still going to be people that are demonetized.
There's still going to be platforms that are going to struggle.
As long as they can hold out long enough, then maybe these people come back.
hannah claire brimelow
I think that's the problem, though.
For X, there's a lot of cash flow, and you have the attention.
But if you're a smaller organization that's trying to start out, having a coalition of people saying, we're going to block advertising from your platform is completely detrimental.
In fact, it could be fatal to your business.
kyle seraphin
And they named specific people, too.
I mean, they went after a lot of Crowder.
tim pool
Well, now we actually have this story.
This is from today as well.
Mega supporters on Axe call for Dunkin' Donuts boycott.
Go woke, go broke.
Dunkin' Donuts told Rumble, according to the story, I'm assuming they're emailing Chris.
I would be opposed to showing up on the current version of the platform.
The right-wing culture on the site is too polarizing from a brand suitability standpoint.
Redacted.
But we are open to continuing discussion as the site evolves.
I am sorry to share that because I want to help.
That's a lie.
kyle seraphin
That's a shakedown.
tim pool
Rumble has a lot of right-wing podcasts on it.
That doesn't mean much.
YouTube, and there's a bunch of platforms that are far left.
Rumble has Street League Skateboarding.
They've got a bunch of skateboard stuff.
So how about this?
Dunkin' Donuts says, if our ads only appear on your skate and sports and gaming stuff, we're cool.
We don't want to be on the political stuff.
That's totally normal.
Instead, they were like, we won't advertise with you at all for this.
So now people are calling for a boycott, but here's what's interesting.
Apparently, this was specifically about Lauder with Crowder.
They say, let me read it, they say, Rumble hosts a variety of controversial right-wing figures, blah blah blah, controversial.
Pavlovsky claimed Duncan specifically wanted Rumble to drop right-wing political commentator Steve Crowder.
It's Steven Crowder, it's not Ruble, it's Rumble, and it's Pavlovsky.
hannah claire brimelow
I was really dedicated to this story.
kyle seraphin
Yeah, no more, again, editor problems.
The thing that's really sad is whenever you have, if you run an online business, you can opt out of advertisers that are going to bring you, like ad agencies will come to you and say, Hey, we want to advertise on your podcast, on your program, whatever it is.
And you'll say, okay, cool.
Listen, I don't do metal sponsors.
I don't do political advertisements.
I'm not interested in sports or gambling stuff, online gambling.
You can actually tell them, Hey, these are the things I don't want to hear ads from.
and vice versa. The advertisers can say, I'm not interested in political podcasts. I'm only
interested in girls in bikinis playing video games. And like, there's a ton of that on Rumble.
So you can pick what it is that you want to go and advertise on. Like you said,
you can be very selective about how these ads run. So this is this is nonsensical. It's a shakedown.
tim pool
I do think it's really funny that the reason Rumble reached out to Dunkin Donuts is because
the sponsor reads and ads on Rumble that they oversample coffee. And it's because coffee is
is an easy product for people to sell for merch for their brand or whatever.
So a lot of people, you name a brand, they've started selling coffee.
It's an easy product to sell.
So if you've got a podcast.
kyle seraphin
It's consumable.
It's everyday.
tim pool
Everybody loves coffee.
The reason we launched coffee is partially why we have Casper is partially because coffee is easy and everybody loves coffee, but it's also because we want physical location.
So the actual intent was we bought a building first.
We were trying to open up a coffee shop.
It's taken a year and a half.
Permits are moving forward.
We're really excited about this.
And so we're like, we'll launch the website and sell the coffee first.
That way we're sponsoring ourselves.
This is what most people do.
So Chris is like, people on this website sell a lot of coffee, let's go to Dunkin' and see if they wanna advertise here because everybody who's watching these shows, they buy a lot of coffee.
It's over-indexing.
And Dunkin' was like, nah, we don't wanna go where people buy coffee.
Which makes no sense.
kyle seraphin
You know who I think about when I think about right-wing people that drink coffee?
I think about cops, who spend an awful lot of time in Dunkin' Donuts because it's what's open when you're working late hours.
Oh dude, if cops start boycotting Dunkin', You're talking about a million people that are sworn officers in this country.
You see a huge chunk of them lean, at least to the, they lean generally conservative because they care about law and order.
And they also sort of lean towards liberty.
You hope.
There's some fascists out there, obviously, but mostly these people want to see people be able to be free.
That's what they say.
That's what their hand in the air says when they sign on.
So yeah, I'd like to see a million cops saying, you know, they did this to Starbucks a little bit.
And so the alternative was Duncan.
If Duncan wants to get on that bandwagon, there's other places.
tim pool
So, I mean, this isn't part of the advertising cartel.
It's just, this is what the companies do.
Now, here's what I love.
Companies like Dunkin' Donuts think they can bully us, and what I'm asking you tonight
is to stick together and turn Dunkin' Donuts into Bud Light.
If you have any fight left in you, let's trend Boycott Dunkin' Donuts.
So I mean, this isn't part of the advertising cartel.
It's just this is what the companies do.
Now here's what I love.
Ryan Long nailed this in one of his comedy bits.
And I wanna see if I can- Let me see if I can, uh... Pull this one up.
I'm not sure exactly what he titled the video.
But it's a, uh, let's see, left-wing vi- here we go.
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tim pool
This is the funny thing and the reason why I bring this up.
Dunkin' Donuts would have no problem, none of these companies would have any problem advertising on any leftist show.
They would never say that.
YouTube is leftist, Facebook is leftist, and none of these advertisers are like, well, you know, the left-wing bias on your platform is a problem for us.
elad eliahu
I just don't think the transgression will be big enough to really anger the MAGA overlords enough.
Before with the Bud Light, it was the transgenders, and you know, that really gets the people going.
This, sending an email saying you want to advertise with them, it doesn't equate to that transgender culture war, electrocuted rail of really getting everybody going.
This is just kind of...
hannah claire brimelow
Because how many companies are not even responding to these emails, right?
Like, at least Duncan is sort of saying, like, this is why we can't do it.
I bet there are tons that they reach out to who just, like, quietly delete the email from Rumble.
and apparently we're not going to boycott them because we don't know who they are.
elad eliahu
Frankly, nice of them to respond. I see Cat Turd is leading the way on all the boycotts or anybody
who crosses the line against MAGA. I think he did something similar to Kyle Rittenhouse. So
now if you cross the line, Cat Turd is number one. We'll put you in the struggle session,
the MAGA struggle session coming from Cat Turd. Yeah, they struggle sessioned Kyle Rittenhouse.
tim pool
That was a mistake.
elad eliahu
Now they're putting Dunkin Donuts in there with him.
kyle seraphin
I'm okay with the Dunkin Donuts one.
tim pool
Yeah, I'm okay.
kyle seraphin
Yeah, I could do my rest of my entire life with never having another Dunkin Donuts.
hannah claire brimelow
Dunkin Donuts was like the only chain in town.
It's a very small town I grew up in.
So I have a strong affinity for it.
But that being said, there are so many local coffee companies like coffee is an easy thing to buy smaller than than from a big national chain.
kyle seraphin
I'd rather have no coffee.
elad eliahu
Yeah, I agree.
I don't drink coffee.
I don't understand.
kyle seraphin
I mean, I'll drink coffee every day, but I'd rather have no coffee than Dunkin' Donuts coffee.
Same thing for Starbucks, by the way.
tim pool
Well, I give Starbucks like a C+.
kyle seraphin
Because you like burned stuff?
tim pool
Well, that's why I give them a C+, because it's not always that bad.
kyle seraphin
They always hate cops, and they always kind of hate people on the right.
tim pool
Well, as a corporation, it's no good.
I'm just saying in terms of their coffee.
elad eliahu
I think it's garbage.
kyle seraphin
All their drinks are garbage.
elad eliahu
Don't go to Dunkin Donuts.
It's not good for you.
Brew your coffee at home.
I mean, they serve donuts and then a lot of people go get their other sugary garbage drinks like 50 grams of sugar, all their gross syrups.
That stuff's unhealthy for you.
Boycott Dunkin' Donuts for your health, not because of this particular cat turd tweet.
tim pool
Yeah, you shouldn't be eating these donuts, man.
I hear these stories all the time.
They are people who are like, when I go to Europe, when I'm outside of America, I eat bread and I feel fine.
I don't gain weight.
In the United States, I eat bread and I just instantly gain tons of weight.
kyle seraphin
It's the binders.
tim pool
Is that with binders?
kyle seraphin
Yeah, so they're commercial binders that make them shelf stable for longer.
My wife bakes bread.
We've gone like the full like trad life thing.
My wife makes sourdough now.
So it's...
unidentified
Ooh, sourdough.
elad eliahu
Does she sell it?
kyle seraphin
What's up?
elad eliahu
You guys have a bakery?
kyle seraphin
We do not have a bakery.
We have a home and we have a bunch of kids running around.
tim pool
But you like, you get imported foreign flour?
kyle seraphin
She has, uh, she uses either King Arthur or something organic from Costco.
We buy in bulk.
We go through seriously like 20 pounds of flour at a very fast clip.
The other day she was like, hey, do we have a, where's that 10 pound bag?
And I'm like, I don't know.
elad eliahu
Any seed oils in that bread or?
kyle seraphin
No, dude, come on now.
And we use, you know, like really good butter that's grass-fed butter, you know, from good brass-fed cows.
But the end of the day is those commercial binders are the thing that are really ugly.
If you go eat, let's say, French bread in Paris, you can run on a baguette like all day long and you're not going to feel the same way as if you were to go get one that's coming from like a Safeway or, you know, whatever.
What other stores are out there?
Publix?
I'm trying to think of HEB.
I'm working my way across the nation.
But as you do those, those will sit on the shelf for days, and they'll last in your house for days.
Sourdough's good for a day, day and a half, two days, and then it's really good for croutons after that, because that's how it's supposed to be.
tim pool
Let's check.
While we're here, and we're talking about whether or not anyone should boycott Dunkin' Donuts, we've got the product name, Buttermilk Donut.
And it says, Ingredients, Buttermilk Cake Donut Mix, Enriched Wheat Flour, Wheat Flour, Malted Barley Flour, Niacin, Iron, Thiamin, Mononitrate, Riboflavin, Folic Acid.
Oh, that doesn't mean a lot.
Sugar, Soybean Oil, Powdered Buttermilk, Dry Egg Yolk, Leavening.
Let's see, pyrophosphate, sodium aluminum phosphate, modified food starch, soy flour, soy lecithin.
kyle seraphin
That's just baking soda.
tim pool
What's konjac flour?
I don't think it's pronounced konjac flour, is it?
Palm oil.
hannah claire brimelow
It's the natural flavors for me.
tim pool
Cornstarch.
Cellulose, gum, potassium sorbite.
There's a little bit of bad stuff in there.
kyle seraphin
That's going to go bad a lot faster than some of the other products.
And donuts go bad too.
Anybody who's ever eaten donuts at Dunkin' at night when you go in and they baked them in the morning?
It's an inferior product.
hannah claire brimelow
You can't just throw them out at night.
kyle seraphin
They have to.
hannah claire brimelow
They're a deal.
kyle seraphin
But that's good.
Yeah, you want that.
tim pool
Right.
When the donuts get stale and are bad, that's good.
When the McDonald's sits on the shelf for five years and doesn't mold, I got questions.
hannah claire brimelow
The Twinkies that never change at all.
Right.
As the thesis states, food is supposed to go bad.
kyle seraphin
It's supposed to go bad.
tim pool
It just means that there's other things eating it.
And if they can't eat it...
kyle seraphin
You've killed them all because the food is toxic.
tim pool
It doesn't allow the other things in the world.
kyle seraphin
You shouldn't eat it because your micro gut is going to get destroyed.
elad eliahu
Feels like every few months there's a new boycott.
Think to boycott for another reason.
kyle seraphin
Are you into that?
You want to boycott stuff?
elad eliahu
No, I like buying things.
kyle seraphin
What's your favorite boycott?
elad eliahu
I'm a dirty, filthy capitalist.
I see something I like.
I want to throw my money at it.
hannah claire brimelow
I like organic boycotts.
kyle seraphin
So what would make you boycott somebody?
elad eliahu
What would make me boycott something?
You know, impulsively, I want to say the Israel-Palestine conflict, but even then, it's actually not true, because I love eating at Lebanese and Palestinian restaurants.
Whenever I travel a lot for work, and I love Middle Eastern food, and there won't be a lot of Israeli restaurants in Random Area, but a lot of Lebanese, a lot of Palestinian restaurants.
tim pool
Would you boycott Dunkin' Donuts if they launched a promotional From the River to the Sea campaign, where if you sing the song, they'll give you 10% off?
elad eliahu
You know, if I were to be inclined to buy Dunkin' Donuts products, then yeah, I wouldn't be suede otherwise.
It's just, you know, the bottom line is if I want your product, I'll buy it.
And I'm not arrogant enough to think my individual dollar will make a difference, but maybe those very influential Jews with a lot of shekels would.
tim pool
So that would be the... All right, let's get to the political news.
Ladies and gentlemen, Trump says... I'm the Jude Cross, but not the other stuff.
From ABC News, Trump says he has agreed to offer from ABC News to debate Kamala Harris.
Trump had previously cast doubt about debating Harris on ABC.
Well, they were supposed to debate on Fox News, and then Kamala Harris didn't want to do it, so Trump agreed to her terms, I guess.
And this will be on September 10th.
I know we're all excited for this.
I don't know, what do you guys think?
Harris is apparently not—she hasn't agreed to any of the other debates.
Trump wants three.
He gave this press conference where he said she's weak.
I don't know the press conference earlier today was actually that good.
hannah claire brimelow
It was not his best.
tim pool
I think he was just trying to generate press coverage.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I think you're starting to see the Trump campaign go back on the offensive, which I appreciate.
I think for a little while, especially with the opening days of the Harris campaign, they were sort of...
Naturally having to respond to what was being presented to them.
I saw that Harris had tweeted out something like, I see that Trump has finally agreed to the debate, like took him long enough or something like that, which I find so crazy because the original ABC September 10th debate that they had agreed to was Trump-Biden, and I don't understand.
kyle seraphin
It's not the same deal.
hannah claire brimelow
It's not the same thing.
I don't understand why the narrative is like he was backing out of a pre-arranged agreement when Biden backed out first.
kyle seraphin
When you change the terms of the agreement, it's like, all right, $10,000 and I'm giving you this Honda Civic.
And you're like, cool.
And then you show up and you're like, uh, just kidding.
It's a Ford Pinto, but it looks really nice.
And you're like, uh, that's not the same deal we agreed on.
We're going to have to renegotiate the price.
We're going to have to renegotiate the details.
I'm going to want a warranty.
Like it's a different thing.
You brought in someone completely new who, by the way, didn't get any primary votes, but you brought in a totally different animal.
Of course you're going to renegotiate.
hannah claire brimelow
It's absurd to think otherwise.
This is what I think is so strange about the Kamala Harris campaign in general, which is that she's walking this line of, like, I'm going to carry the Biden legacy and also, like, I am a new different person.
kyle seraphin
On day one, I'm going to do something new.
hannah claire brimelow
If you didn't like what he did, I'm not doing that.
But if you liked it, that was all me because I'm on that ticket.
This is just back and forth that's going to make me personally crazy through November.
But I totally agree with you.
I mean, if, you know, I thought I was voting for you in a lot and suddenly Serge and some other random guy, Serge being our producer, showed up, I would be sort of frustrated because it wasn't the same ticket, even if you guys are claiming to be part of the same party.
kyle seraphin
You totally switched your chip, like the meme.
When you got the new chip in, then you'd be ready to go.
hannah claire brimelow
No chips for me.
But the other part of this is really, I think that Trump being like, So she had said, I thought you said anytime, anywhere, which I'm pretty sure that's what Biden said.
Him coming back and saying, okay, three debates, back to back to back.
The fact that he had proposed, I think it was September 5th, this September 10th date, and then September 25th.
He is trying to wear Kamala out, which I find fascinating.
He is a much better debater than she is.
kyle seraphin
The more you put her in front of a microphone, the more that you put her to the test, the more you squeeze her, the more you're going to see how weak she is.
She's only got a certain number of canned things, and then it's all cackles after that.
Three quarters of the can is cackles.
hannah claire brimelow
She's going to run out the first time.
And then any gaffes, any issues that come up, he has another debate.
kyle seraphin
He's got a puncher on it, and he doesn't need notes.
He's going to remember because he's got that little, he's got that mental thing.
He's like, oh, I see where your weakness is.
You don't know how to say things back to these particular points.
hannah claire brimelow
Were you always interested in Trump?
Because you sound supportive of him right now.
I don't want to make any assumptions here.
kyle seraphin
I am.
I am ambivalent.
I am a politically conservative, but I'm not a Republican.
And I didn't vote for Trump in 2016.
I actually liked Gary Johnson better, mostly because one of my buddies hung out with Gary Johnson.
One of my buddies' dad hung out with him.
But he got my vote in 2020.
And I cannot imagine—I'm not going to vote for a Democrat.
I have kids, so that's a no-go.
And I don't like abortion, so that's easy.
He's not my best candidate, but my best candidate's not running.
hannah claire brimelow
So I know that— Who is your best candidate?
kyle seraphin
I don't know.
Steve Friend or maybe my buddy Gerardo Boyle, who's been here before.
Somebody who's got a lot of principle that has never basically screwed up.
And those people don't run for president.
Trump is the better option by a lot.
There's no other person that's going to be able to carry that banner.
So that's really easy.
I'm not trying to elect a role model for my kids.
And that's the thing that I always have to separate.
Everybody that's mad about who the person is, right?
It's like, dude, it's not a perfect vessel.
And by the way, I actually believe in a constitutional republic.
I don't think the president should be that important.
Like, I think we went off the rails in 1913 for a lot of reasons, and people that are in the chat will be, you know, all amped up about the Federal Reserve, but when we started direct electing senators, I think we went off the rails.
We took the situation and we took the infrastructure of this country, and we changed it fundamentally.
And I also would like to see all the state houses that are red right now, I'd love to see them just go like, you know what, we don't care about your election, do a general election, say what you want, and then we're going to appoint our electors anyway.
Because we're not going to do that.
And you would still have a better outcome.
Because I don't think the president should be that important.
The president is not supposed to be a king.
And we keep trying to elect role model, savior, and king, and I just step away from that.
I don't want any of that.
So anyway, Trump is fine.
He's just, the people around him that love him, that I like, I'm respectful of them.
I've never spent any time with Trump personally, so I don't have that kind of affection for
And I don't do the thing where it's like, oh, I've never met him, but like, he'll fix all the ills!
It's like, I don't believe in that either.
Like, I've also been alive long enough.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, include one president fix all the ills.
kyle seraphin
Of course not.
hannah claire brimelow
I think so much of this election is going to be sort of righting the ship, like turning it in a direction that you were like- It's going to have to stop the ship tilting.
Whichever metaphor you want to go for, right?
Like, there is something wrong with what our boat is doing and somebody needs to correct it.
That's right.
kyle seraphin
We didn't get fat overnight, right?
You're not going to take one pill and drop 50 or 60 pounds and suddenly be healthy.
What you need to do is stop eating all the things.
Whatever it is, you need to stop the hemorrhaging or stop putting on the weight or stop the unhealthy lifestyle.
I would like to see a stop on that.
And Trump spent a bunch of money.
Let's be real.
The guy spent a bunch more money than most people would say are conservatives.
So I don't put him necessarily conservative, but he did an objectively better job than the alternative.
We've seen it.
All the excuses they have, they're running away from the record, as you accurately pointed out.
She's everything to everything.
Kamala's a chameleon.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, she hasn't even put out a platform yet.
kyle seraphin
Why do you need a platform when you have voters?
hannah claire brimelow
Well, you keep hearing this term, it's a vibes election.
It's a vibes election.
People who are voting for Kamala are voting for vibes.
And you said earlier, you know, you're not voting for a role model for kids.
It reminds me of this adage all the time, like, oh, people want a candidate they would have a beer with.
I don't actually believe that's true.
kyle seraphin
I don't need to have a beer with them.
I need outcomes.
And so I think Dan Bongino said it when he was talking to Tucker Best, and it stuck with me.
I'm not interested in politicians.
I'm interested in outcomes.
Are the outcomes better for me, my family, the people around me, American liberty?
Can we get those things going?
tim pool
Well, there's two problems, though.
If you're talking about maximizing the amount of votes you receive from 330 million people, every margin counts, you're going to go lowest common denominator.
kyle seraphin
Sure.
tim pool
And that means you're going to want to go on stage and go, freedom!
kyle seraphin
No tax on tips.
tim pool
Well, that's actually a policy.
kyle seraphin
But the problem is, I don't know how you enact it.
You got to still get the House.
That's the thing people keep forgetting.
Like, where are the people saying, like, not only do we need a Trump, we also need them to go ahead and capture the House and maybe the Senate.
tim pool
Theoretically, there are things you could do with the executive, through the executive branch by instructing how things are enforced in terms of law enforcement by saying, we no longer prioritize investigations.
That's a policy.
Saying, I don't want taxes on tips or for social security.
Those are policy plans.
I'm not talking about that.
I'm saying Kamala Harris is going, freedom.
She has no policy plans whatsoever.
The second problem is shadow campaign, ballot harvesting.
I wish the election was actually about convincing people and giving them outcomes, but it's not.
It's about, can you get more pieces of paper with names on them than the other guy?
kyle seraphin
Look at what Seb Gorka put out.
He shared it earlier on X, and it was an interview of a bunch of people on the street.
They're all women, and one guy that is effeminate, so I won't speculate further than that.
But they interview, and they're like, you know, what do you think about Kamala Harris?
And they're like, she's doing a great job.
She's an awesome vice president.
We're like, really feeling good about it.
And they're like, what's your favorite accomplishment?
Or like, what do you feel most strongly about that she's done?
And they're like, honestly, like, I don't actually know anything about anything.
I just have feelings about stuff.
And you're right, that's the vibes thing.
That is the freedom, that is the no platform.
There are people that will still go out and vote.
The question is, are they really interested?
The polling that I saw from CBS and YouGov essentially said a huge chunk of the Kamala voters are anti-Trump voters.
And I don't know how much hate drives people to the polls the second time around.
I don't think it moves people as much as the 60% of the people that are like, I'm in for Trump.
tim pool
But also, when Trump is the president during COVID and people are angry, they're going to vote.
But again, I don't think that matters.
I think Democrats are going to send volunteers to nursing homes and to schools, and they're going to collect universal mail-in votes.
And then there's going to be a bunch of people who are like, did I vote?
I think I did.
Oh, whatever.
Who cares?
kyle seraphin
Guess what?
The FBI won't investigate it, as we found out in 2020.
They've already told us the election crimes they're interested in are all about voter suppression, not about voter fraud.
tim pool
Because they want the Democrats to win.
kyle seraphin
Of course.
I mean, this is the case.
tim pool
Because as we heard from, who was it, McCabe, that many of them fear they'll be jailed and not to flee the country if Trump wins.
kyle seraphin
What did you do?
Why do you need to be jailed?
What did you do there, Andy McCabe?
That's the question I always have when you start telling me you're going to get jailed.
elad eliahu
On this debate stuff, I think one of the important details is that Kamala Harris only agreed
to the ABC debate and not the other three that Trump was trying to put forward.
That's significant because one of the other ones was supposed to be with Fox News, and
Kamala Harris has yet to be asked a serious question about her campaign or any of her
political stances on this campaign.
And she's only going to media-friendly environments, even down the line, because the debate is
scheduled for a month from now.
She hasn't agreed to the Fox News debate.
The previous one was on CNN.
Obviously, the last time the Republicans and Democrats debated, the Democrat dropped out.
So I think we're in for an interesting debate.
But I don't know, I'm having nightmares of when Trump debated Joe Biden the last time, and they were just yelling over each other.
And I just had really uncomfortable feelings come across me.
He had a really great debate performance this more recent time.
hannah claire brimelow
You're talking about 2020 versus before?
kyle seraphin
I think he's got a better sophisticated take on it right now.
From watching him, it's way more disciplined than I would expect, which is great.
And Kamala's terrible at this.
If you leave dead air, she fills it with weird laughs.
If you leave any dead air, she's like the most uncomfortable person.
tim pool
I think she's got some kind of Tourette's syndrome.
kyle seraphin
It's possible.
tim pool
I'm not being cute.
I'm not a doctor.
A lot of people hyper-focus on what they think is laughing.
I actually think she may be laughing to cover up a tick.
So when she talks, what you need to look for is, everybody looks for the, when she goes, heh heh heh, well let me tell you.
kyle seraphin
We need Montel.
tim pool
No, no, you look at the videos.
The one video I think is good evidence, and I think people should start investigating this, is when she's saying, stay woke and be more woke.
She's not laughing.
She goes, I think we need to stay woke.
I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
She wasn't laughing there.
Then she goes, heh heh heh.
I think the laughing was trying to mask that she was having some kind of, maybe she's having a panic attack, and she's trying to make it seem like she's laughing.
Well, she doesn't know what to say.
kyle seraphin
That's what I'm saying.
tim pool
The stay woke thing was a t-shirt.
She was just saying something she heard on the t-shirt.
kyle seraphin
She probably saw somebody walk with a shirt that had it on.
tim pool
Right, she's like, stay woke?
That's what I should say, right?
kyle seraphin
My brother did that once when he was on Mushrooms.
He just said things that he read in front of him.
tim pool
I think we should, uh, somebody should pull up as many videos of her speaking as possible, because people can do this, and look for when she laughs to see how often she's just going, And how often she's talking.
I think it's a panic attack or a tick.
kyle seraphin
Kind of like what you see Joaquin Phoenix do in Joker which I just watched on the plane in today.
Really uncomfortable stuff where you're like, this could go into a cry, this could go into a...
Complete freakout.
tim pool
That's a really good point.
If you've seen Joker, Walking Phoenix, he's got this disorder where he laughs uncontrollably at random moments, and then he starts busting out laughing like, and then he covers his mouth and starts crying.
kyle seraphin
It doesn't look right.
She's covered it decently.
I just think she's utterly untalented at a lot of this stuff, so if it turns out that she's covering something up, none of that matters.
tim pool
Let's say woke video, man.
I gotta pull that one up.
kyle seraphin
If she gets in front of Donald Trump and Donald Trump does what he should do, which is be very disciplined, We have to stay woke.
lines that he had sitting against Biden. He let Biden kind of ramble on and talk
about how they defeated Medicare or whatever the heck it is and he goes, I
don't really know what he said and I don't I don't think he knows either. It's
like epic. It's like drop the mic. I want to play this clip.
tim pool
Just listen. We've heard it before but really listen. We have to stay woke.
unidentified
Like everybody needs to be woke. And you can talk about it if you're the... That's
tim pool
not laughing.
That's a massive discomfort.
Listen, no one around her is laughing.
There's no joke being made.
And she goes... And then she's laughing.
unidentified
I think she... ...needs to be woke.
tim pool
And you can talk about if you're... I think she's trying to make it seem like it's laughter.
Like you were saying with Joker, when he starts laughing and then he starts crying.
unidentified
Woke-ist or woker, but just a more woke than less woke.
elad eliahu
She's obviously extremely uncharismatic.
But my biggest concern for Trump would be in the same way that he made Joe Biden, I think, look old and senile.
You know, Donald Trump has 20 years on Kamala Harris.
So in a potential matchup, I think Kamala Harris could potentially, you know, the dichotomy between the two, the juxtaposition.
see more energetic, see more young.
kyle seraphin
He can beat that really easily by just being presidential, which is to say, let her talk, let her giggle and cackle,
let her be weird, let her say all the things she says that are basically word salads of nonsense.
The best thing is when she finds a word and then she touches it like seven times like it's the base,
she cannot help it.
We used to make this analogy, you guys remember the movie, the X-Files movie where Magneto's walking
and he's like calling together like a bridge in the air, it's all these pieces of metal and he's walking across it,
but it's coming from nowhere.
Kamala cancelled the debate? Did she just now?
elad eliahu
I think she agreed to the September 10th one with ABC, not the other two.
tim pool
Patrick Webb...
I don't know if this is true.
kyle seraphin
Unconfirmed reporting.
That's how you cover that.
tim pool
That's easy.
kyle seraphin
Source is in a position to know.
tim pool
She's refusing the other debates.
elad eliahu
Trump may not do the... She's not going to do the Fox News one.
Right.
She wants to do Stay on Friendly Turf, which I don't blame her for.
The thing is, Trump is so good on his feet.
I mean, I still have confidence in him.
He's so good on his feet, and he'll likely have an iconic moment like what he did with Hillary Clinton with the locker room.
hannah claire brimelow
And I think he is a little bit more unpredictable in terms of what Trump you're going to get.
I agree with you.
He should be disciplined, you know, but I assume that any Democrat strategist is saying he's going to fly off the handle.
He's going to be loud.
He's going to try and interrupt you.
kyle seraphin
That's what they thought Biden was going to do to him.
hannah claire brimelow
But she's sort of a one-trick pony, right?
Like we know how she'll present on the debate stage, that she is, you know, female girl boss here to wag her finger at Trump and say, I am speaking, you know, that's her go-to like got a moment for any kind of, we just saw this the other night with the protesters.
elad eliahu
Exactly.
Like she had a planned moment in that for when protests were going to chant at her.
She'll have a planned moment for when Trump inevitably tries to interrupt her.
Or who knows, maybe they'll even do the muted mics.
hannah claire brimelow
She might even like lower her voice and tell us a story because she's a woman making a point.
kyle seraphin
I hope she whispers.
hannah claire brimelow
There's only one way for her to present, whereas I actually think Trump is more agile.
Part of it is the charisma.
He's better on his feet.
Part of it is because he's actually very authentic.
You are getting whatever Trump you're getting, whereas Kamala is presenting as politician.
kyle seraphin
Think about this though, Donald Trump has basically been attacked more than anybody that I've ever seen in any venue, name it, like it doesn't matter, in the public eye for like a decade.
It's pretty hard to take those kind of hits and continuously, like all of this stuff, like he's heard it all before.
You're not going to find a new line of attack after a decade of this stuff.
So I do think it's interesting to see him go out there, like I said, as long as he kind of just, he can dial it back.
He doesn't need They have to campaign on a record, and the record is atrocious, and she's terrible at doing it.
So just let her talk as much.
I would give her 90% of the airtime.
tim pool
Let's jump to this.
We got a tweet from Mario Nafoli.
He says, Joe Rogan endorses RFK Jr.
Quote, he's the only one that makes sense.
We'll play the clip for you.
I don't know if it was like a direct endorsement, but it's basically what Joe is saying.
joe rogan
That's politics.
They do it on the left, they do it on the right.
They gaslight you, they manipulate you, they promote narratives.
And the only one who's not doing that is Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
tim pool
You a fan?
joe rogan
Yeah, I am a fan.
Yeah, he's the only one that makes sense to me.
He's the only one that he doesn't attack people.
He attacks actions and ideas, but he's He's much more reasonable and intelligent.
The guy was an environmental attorney and cleaned up the East River.
He's a legitimate guy.
Before anybody started calling him an anti-vaxxer, which I thought he was, I thought he was this nut, this conspiracy theorist nut, until I read his book.
I read The Real Anthony Fauci, and I'm like, what?
How much of this is real?
These health organizations, insane amounts of money, and then also the government is in on it, and also what the number is that these guys made off of these products.
tim pool
Well, okay, I think we hit the point that he was making with RFK Jr.
I'll tell you what I really think.
I think Joe Rogan cannot endorse Trump.
elad eliahu
He's going to have to watch out for the tweets from Cat Turd.
Cat Turd might be coming after Joe Rogan pretty soon.
tim pool
You don't want that.
You don't want that Cat Turd.
I think Joe Rogan's audience is too big, and I know a lot of people who are liberals who watch him, and I think Joe's concern is if he were to come out and say, look, RFK Jr.
is probably better but can't win, so I think the only other option is Trump because Kamala makes no sense.
kyle seraphin
He's also in Texas.
It kind of doesn't matter who he votes for.
tim pool
I don't think it's that close.
down ballot probably. Texas actually is pretty close, especially with a lot of what's going on
in Eagle Pass. But that being said, if Joe were to come out and endorse either candidate,
he's going to have a massive negative impact on the entirety of his business. And I think
he's taken the Michael Jordan route of conservatives buy shoes too, which is play the neutral road.
Don't endorse anybody.
RFK Jr.
is safe because he's not really in the game.
And I don't think it's... I don't think Joe has to endorse anybody.
Him saying he likes RFK Jr.
and he makes the most sense doesn't mean he actually thinks he's the one you should vote for.
It's who he is going to be voting for.
elad eliahu
For those who are considering voting for a third-party candidate, especially if you are in a swing state, you're essentially throwing your vote away.
And it doesn't serve any political purpose in that race.
It could serve a political purpose insofar as you're saying, you know, here's two or three percent.
But in most cases, in all cases, voting for the so-called lesser of two evils is how you actually practice politics in reality.
To have a protest vote and Jill Stein or RFK Jr.
hannah claire brimelow
or something is a waste of your time and I think a lot of people are voting for third-party candidates, whether it be RFK or, you know, a green ticket candidate or whatever, because they don't actually want to commit to a protest vote.
It's sort of, you know, the third way out.
You could either cast a vote for someone that you're like, I absolutely hate this person, I'm gonna vote for their opponent, or you could be like, I'm just gonna go stand over here with these other people and watch from afar.
kyle seraphin
I think there's something about youth.
So I saw Kyle Rittenhouse get kind of raked over the coals for saying he wants to write in Rand Paul.
Ron Paul.
Ron Paul.
Yeah, sorry.
The story is that when you're younger, you have less skin in the game, you don't have kids, you may not be married, you may not make as much income, and so you can be more idealistic.
You can be a single-issue voter.
You can stand on principles and think it matters.
As you get older, you get a little bit more pragmatic, you start realizing that outcomes are a little bit more important, so maybe you have a little bit more skin in the game, you understand maybe you're making more money, and the realistic outcome changes.
But I don't want to live in a country where if you say, hey, I don't agree with you politically, I want to vote for somebody else, that we have to cancel you, because that's gross to me.
Because I grew up in the 80s, and we didn't do that, and we didn't do that in the 90s either.
Like, there were people that were friends that voted for, you know, that didn't vote for Bill Clinton, and they still got along.
You don't have to vote for the party that your friends do if we want to live in a reasonable America.
And are you looking to Kyle Rittenhouse for political advice?
I'm not.
I might look to him for how to use the forward assist on an AR under stress.
He did a good job with that.
But at the end of the day, he's not making any decisions for me.
And so I just think it's weird that we go and cancel people over that stuff.
tim pool
I do not believe.
That if I were to have a conversation with Joe about the current state of U.S.
affairs, that he could logically disagree with me about why Trump is the correct person to vote for.
I am not saying Trump is perfect.
I am not saying the right does not do the things that Joe is saying they do with gaslighting, whatever.
I'm not saying any of that.
I'm saying based on the record we saw from Trump in the first place, I did not vote for him in 2016.
There's a reason why I voted for him in 2020.
And based on where we're at currently, I think the logical conclusion is yet there's no reason to vote for RFK Jr.
Donald Trump actually is a marginally net positive president for a lot of reasons in the political landscape.
I am saying that anybody who's honestly approaching the issues, the news, and what's currently happening in this country could not reasonably conclude there's anything else to do.
That's why my immediate assumption is, and I mean no disrespect, that Joe is just trying to stay neutral to a certain degree.
He's saying, I don't want... But also consider this too.
Joe's show is a massive red pill for a lot of people, especially with the COVID narrative and the lies.
For people who are watching Joe, if he comes out and says Trump, and then instantly they're like, oh, he's a Trump guy.
I can't watch his show anymore.
All of a sudden now, when Joe tries to tell them the truth, they're not going to want to listen to him.
kyle seraphin
That's right.
tim pool
So it's the smartest thing, probably strategically, business-wise and politically, when you have a show as big as his, to just say, I don't want to be involved in the politics.
Listen to what we have to say, because I tell you this, more people have probably voted for Trump and will vote for Trump because of Joe Rogan than anybody else, whether or not Joe says he's going to vote for him.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, he promotes working out.
He makes everyone conservative.
kyle seraphin
He's a fascist, how dare you?
tim pool
Joe calls out media lies and manipulations.
And then once you start digging into that and you realize you've been lied to, you end up looking into what Trump is actually doing.
And I'm not saying every single person who does is going to vote for him.
Some people might actually be left and be like, no, I don't like him.
But a lot of people will wake up to the fake news and say, they lied about Trump.
That wasn't true.
I actually don't think he's that bad.
And so I think.
You know, Joe, Tucker and Joe having the biggest podcast on Spotify is a massive white pill.
kyle seraphin
He touches things so softly.
The way that he approaches things are something that nobody else is really doing the way that he does it, and that's why he's been so successful.
He doesn't come out and say, hey, I think all these really aggressive things.
He says it softly.
He says it in a funny way, but...
He's made people confront their own beliefs.
It's like, hey, you believe this thing?
Well, why do you believe that?
Let's just turn it on its head and give us a skeptic approach, which is what we should be doing.
Approaching people Socratically by asking questions, asking simple questions, and making people evaluate their beliefs.
So, I agree with you.
He moves people to the right, but basically he moves people into...
Asking basic, sort of, if you assume this, if you want to believe this, why do you believe this?
And can you justify it?
And oftentimes he brings on really interesting guests that kind of tell you other stuff.
The weirdest thing I ever heard on Joe Rogan that has changed my mind about something, I don't know if it's true or not, but I listened to Alex Jones and him talking about aliens, And Alex Jones flirting the idea that these could be human time travelers from way in the future that basically don't need a physical body anymore in the same way, so they have huge evolved craniums.
And I was like, oh my god, that makes way more sense than anything else that I've heard.
It makes way more sense than people coming to spy on us like a petri dish.
So I just took that away and I went, cool, now I question what I think about things.
It doesn't have to be on any particular thing.
If you're willing to question anything that you tell, and you're like, oh, I believe this to be true.
Take a moment, evaluate why.
If there's something to sort of chip away at that, it makes you flexible, and I think it's good.
tim pool
Yeah, but time travelers... Come on!
No, no, it makes more sense that we're in a simulation, which is entertainment for an advanced species that use us to generate... It's basically an AI-generated sitcom.
And Donald Trump is the main character.
elad eliahu
I think RFK Jr.
is closer to Trump than he is to Biden, so this is in a way a sort of endorsement of Trump.
hannah claire brimelow
In policy or in personality?
elad eliahu
In policy and personality, yeah.
And I think there were phone calls between Donald Trump and RFK Jr.
in the past of rumors of them potentially working together.
tim pool
Well, there was a leaked phone call where Trump was asking for the endorsement.
RFK apparently was like, no, delete it, it's bad, we don't want to do that.
hannah claire brimelow
I don't know if he's similar in terms of every policy, but I think he is more charismatic than Kamala Harris is.
I think it would be a more interesting debate if you had RFK and Trump up, because I actually think they would probably go into policy, whereas it's just going to be a personality clash.
I don't like that Joe Brogan has basically not endorsed.
I mean, interestingly, he's thrown his weight behind RFK, but I don't want celebrities to endorse people.
I don't want people who own businesses that I like to endorse people.
And maybe that's a little bit of political fatigue, which I actually think a lot of Americans are feeling.
But I don't need to know who someone is.
I don't need to know who everyone is voting for, right?
There are some people whose advice or whose lifestyles or who something else might be meaningful to you, that they have a good grip on the economy.
economy or they're really working hard on an issue that you are passionate about.
So knowing who they think is a good candidate would matter.
Right. But to your point, one of the cool things about a lot of podcasters, but definitely Joe Rogan, is that it's
just about the presentation of information and asking questions.
And in some ways, getting him to just be like, I'm not voting.
I'm not going to tell you I'm voting for is powerful because it's more about you having to analyze critically
the information and its takes on things and use your brain to come to a conclusion as opposed to being told, well,
that's who this, you know, star is voting for so obviously you must vote for that person
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too.
elad eliahu
And this RFK Jr.
again, his impact on this race cannot be overstated.
Especially as we're coming closer to November.
Trump's clearly concerned because he's having phone calls with him.
You have to imagine what's going on on the Democrat side.
So these guys are very concerned and he's going to want a lot in return politically
to potentially drop out down the line.
He probably should down the line and use his political leverage for something as political
capital and try to get some sort of position in the Trump administration, help Trump secure
a win.
If it does go to November and he doesn't drop out, it'll actually severely hurt Trump.
The more and more I see from RFK Jr. and the closer to election time we get, yeah, I see
more similar.
I think the average RFK supporter is more likely to have Trump as a second choice than
Kamala Harris.
hannah claire brimelow
Maybe I'm missing the right foot.
I think there are enough people who were...
going to default vote for Biden who are unhappy with Kamala, that they will look for a third
party candidate, whether it's RFK or someone else. I think that Kamala is not as strong
with Democratic base as people would maybe like to believe.
elad eliahu
It's this vaccine stuff because a lot of Trump's base was very concerned and didn't believe in the
had questions about the vaccines. Of course, a lot of Trump's base did. And he was the
Operation Warp Speed guy. He's saying the covid-19 vaccine was mankind's biggest, largest
achievement. And a lot of his base doesn't like that. And I think they were able to go to RFK,
Jr. as an alternative, who is skeptical of many different covid vaccines and different vaccines.
hannah claire brimelow
But there are, you know, maybe not for covid, but there are a lot of progressives or left-wing
people who are just kind of crunchy and don't like vaccine stuff. That's who used to be in that camp.
Well that's why RFK came from that hill.
elad eliahu
I feel like there's a lot of those diehard Trump supporters who are really ticked off about how the COVID vaccine stuff went down.
There are a lot of diehard Trump supporters who are totally against Operation Warp Speed.
kyle seraphin
They just want him to stop talking about it.
elad eliahu
And are willing to pivot over that issue.
kyle seraphin
I don't know if they're willing to pivot.
I don't know if they are.
elad eliahu
A small amount of them will be significant.
It doesn't even have to be a large amount of them.
Even a couple of percents in a couple of states is an issue.
If RFK Jr.
only gets Two, three, four percent.
That still has a huge impact on the swing states.
Even less.
tim pool
Let's throw this to the mix.
We got the story from the Postmillennial.
Major US banks shutter 33 locations in just two weeks.
Major US banks are closing down branch locations and shifting to online services.
And something we saw in Australia, they're getting rid of the ability to withdraw cash from your banks.
What we're seeing here, I think, is just market downturn.
The market just crashed.
The economy is not good.
People are struggling.
And so, I don't know if any of these other ancillary things matter.
If we're really talking about an election that's based on the issues, it's the economy, stupid.
And regular people, you can lie to them all day and night, but when they go to the grocery store, if they look at that bill and they scoff, whoever's in the administration now is in trouble.
kyle seraphin
Let's get really cynical, though.
Do you actually think that we're going to have any kind of semblance of a fair election?
tim pool
No.
I'm just saying, if this was really about who wins the argument.
kyle seraphin
And that's the hypothetical, and I think that's where people are forgetting, because what I keep seeing I listen to a lot of MAGA people, but I also will jump in on Twitter spaces where people I disagree with and I hide there anonymously and just lurk out and listen.
And I want to see what they have to say.
Today there was a space and Lev Parnas was in it and they were talking about they don't think that Trump actually got shot in the ear because they've apparently never seen how superglue works when you have a small wound that you can actually close up with superglue and you wouldn't see it very easily.
And as a paramedic who's actually done that, and I've sealed up ears before from dog bites and other things, it works.
It works really well.
hannah claire brimelow
You're just making that up.
kyle seraphin
I'm just kidding.
hannah claire brimelow
I know you're not.
kyle seraphin
It was invented for wounds, wasn't it?
But if you said that in one of those spaces, someone would be like, he's not a real paramedic.
wasn't it? Well the stuff is called Dermabond that they use in the hospital
so it's a $40 tube but you can get the 99 cent tube and it works just as well.
unidentified
It just burns a little bit longer. But if you said that one of those spaces, someone would
hannah claire brimelow
be like he's not a real paramedic that's not true at all. I've actually taken my
kyle seraphin
fingers down to the bone with a knife by being a bonehead because I'm just a
regular dude and I've cut myself down here and I've sealed them up with super
glue and overnight I was able to use them again.
You're not going to tear it open.
It'll close up, especially a really clean wound.
But that's not what I want to talk about.
Think about this.
hannah claire brimelow
Sorry, I'm derailing you.
kyle seraphin
These people rolled 100 miles an hour at a cliff the size of the Grand Canyon.
They indicted him, and they got him in Florida.
They got him in D.C.
They got him in Georgia.
They got him in New York.
Okay?
State and federal charges on all levels.
They were able to only get one of them across the finish line.
Does anyone actually think that we are not going to see Donald Trump?
There's a very, very real possibility that the guys in New York decide, we bought this ticket.
We're taking that ride.
We're not going to drive up to the edge of this cliff at a hundred miles an hour stop and look at the view.
I think they're going over it and I think there's a strong probability he ends up in Rikers because that's what they are prepared to do.
I don't see any fear of the weak candidate or the fact that they swapped out somebody in the most undemocratic move despite crying about how they're going to save democracy.
There's nothing that tells me these people have any fear about what's coming up.
tim pool
I just want to add this real quick as well.
In about 20 minutes we're going to be in the hurricane.
And so I got a big warning.
My phone went off.
We got a warning.
So if the show disappears, you know why?
It is not the CIA.
kyle seraphin
Is it Debbie?
Is that what it's called?
tim pool
I don't know.
hannah claire brimelow
It's Debbie.
elad eliahu
Let's say the election isn't fair and then Trump loses in 2024.
I think we're going to be in for such another turbulent four years as Trump will inevitably say the election was fake or stolen and we'll have his hold on the Republican Party for another at least four years and would run again.
tim pool
I don't agree.
elad eliahu
You don't think he'd run again in 2028?
At 83 or whatever?
I don't think so.
unidentified
definitely think it would be the revenge toward Trump. At 83 or whatever? Yeah, if he's still
elad eliahu
kicking. If he still wanted it, then I think Republicans wouldn't have a choice. I don't
think so. You don't think Trump would want it or you don't think he'd get the support
tim pool
if he wanted it? I think he's gonna be in his 80s and he's gonna be like, ugh. Joe Biden
elad eliahu
The Democrats didn't seem to have any problem with it.
kyle seraphin
I don't think Joe Biden almost did it.
I think you're misestimating.
Yeah, he didn't even come close.
elad eliahu
I think if they pushed off that debate until September, they would have had no other choice.
And it was actually a huge miscalculation by the Joe Biden campaign to have that debate earlier than any other campaigns they ever do for general elections.
But yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
I think the Biden campaign miscalculated by having a debate when they did, but I don't think that Joe Biden almost got reelected because I think he was already facing really serious scrutiny before the debate.
elad eliahu
He was the presumptive nominee at the time.
hannah claire brimelow
He was sort of the presumptive nominee for sure, but it's not like his party was happy about it.
elad eliahu
So wait, that's to say you guys don't think that Trump will want it or that the party wouldn't give it to him if he did want it?
hannah claire brimelow
I guess you're going either way.
elad eliahu
Because I think if he wanted it, it's his for the taking, and there is no other clear alternative who could try to primary him.
hannah claire brimelow
We're talking about like four years from now, right?
It's hard to say what will come up.
elad eliahu
Political time.
hannah claire brimelow
That feels like tomorrow.
No, it doesn't, because if you think back four years ago, so much has happened since then.
I mean, it feels like it's tomorrow because we think in election cycles, but ultimately we pack huge histories into every four years.
I mean, Nancy Pelosi used to be friends with Biden, and now she's like, Yeah, I didn't try to pressure him out and I haven't talked to him since.
kyle seraphin
She sent him to that nice farm in Wisconsin where they have all the pretty grass.
hannah claire brimelow
Right.
kyle seraphin
Some guy with a suppressed 22 or whatever.
hannah claire brimelow
All kinds of political dynasty shift, especially if we're thinking about like the Supreme Court, right?
The next president will probably name multiple Supreme Court or at least nominate multiple Supreme Court justices.
It's unclear to me what the landscape will look like in four years.
And I think, you know, maybe if Trump didn't get elected and he wanted it, he would get reelected.
On the other hand, He could also be this political symbol, this martyr who was just stolen from, you know, however his base will say it.
elad eliahu
I think you guys are missing the ego play of Trump.
I just couldn't imagine him taking that step down.
It's just untrump-like, frankly.
hannah claire brimelow
If he lost again, it would make him bigger than him.
elad eliahu
It wouldn't be losing again.
In his rhetoric, it would have been stolen again.
hannah claire brimelow
Whatever it is, if he doesn't go to the White House now, it will become even bigger, and I think it will potentially really consolidate the movement behind him.
Even if he's not at the top of it, they will say, like, we have to avenge him in some way.
I'm not talking about political violence, FBI, who's watching.
I'm talking about people saying, like, we need to elect on every level people who represent our values because this one guy we really wanted to didn't get in.
kyle seraphin
We also have a — I can't remember a time when this was the case — a first-term president lame-duck for six months left.
Look, who's running the country right now?
Has anyone just realized that, like, whenever you see anything, like, Biden pops up and he says, like, a bunch of stumble slurs and people are like, ah, that's just what he does.
You know, five weeks ago, that was insane.
unidentified
Yeah.
kyle seraphin
Nobody would have met, they would have been like, they would have covered for him.
And now he walks out there and he's like, I got the four figures.
I don't know where you put the ring on a, I guess you put it on your thumb and you're, and you're-
elad eliahu
Now he's working on his political achievements with this absolute garbage hostage deal.
I don't know if we spent any time talking about it, but the Russia trade-
hannah claire brimelow
The hostage deal is horrible.
kyle seraphin
Didn't they almost send, they almost sent Biden on the plane.
Wasn't he trying to climb on the plane and disappear?
elad eliahu
We looped in multiple EU allies to have to trade Russian spies and criminals with blood on their hands.
hannah claire brimelow
And we left people behind.
It was not even a perfect deal that we got everyone out.
We left stuff on the table.
elad eliahu
Hostage deals incentivize more hostages to be taken.
Unfortunately, that's just the political calculation.
hannah claire brimelow
But Joe Biden is going to tout this as his huge geopolitical accomplishment, which is crazy.
kyle seraphin
But the big win for me is that the Russian FSB assassin that they got out of Germany looks like what I want a Russian assassin to look like.
He had a steely gaze.
He looked like what I expect a Russian assassin to be.
hannah claire brimelow
And the story about, you guys have probably all seen this, but there were Russian spies in, was it Poland?
Or no, in Estonia, in one of the Eastern European countries, and they were posing as being like Argentinian, to the point where their children spoke Spanish, had no idea they were Russian, and when they got taken back to Russia on the plane, were completely blown away by this.
They had no idea.
Putin greeted them by saying, Buenos noches, because they don't speak Russian, because that's how deep their parents were undercover.
unidentified
Yes.
hannah claire brimelow
That's wild to me.
kyle seraphin
Do not underestimate how dedicated these people are.
elad eliahu
Yeah, the Russians are deeply, their spy network is deeply entrenched in Europe.
tim pool
I heard that the president before Biden was working for the Russians.
kyle seraphin
That's what I heard, too.
tim pool
Yeah.
Crazy.
kyle seraphin
Discredited multiple times, but I still hear it.
hannah claire brimelow
I heard that Biden is working for Xi Jinping, so just pick your enemy here.
elad eliahu
He had that really naughty phone call.
tim pool
Have you seen the Tim Walz China stuff?
kyle seraphin
How in the world was he in the military with a security clearance and like hanging out- Flying to China.
Living in China, briefly.
How is that possible?
I don't know if you can do that.
tim pool
Yeah.
kyle seraphin
I was not in the National Guard, so I only have active duty experience.
But like, you couldn't even go to Mexico.
Like, you can't go to Mexico.
They're like, you're like, hey, I want to go to this wedding in Mexico.
And they're like, sorry, it's in Mexico.
That's a no-go zone right now.
You can't go to Cancun for your friend's wedding.
And you're like, I guess I'm not going.
tim pool
Did you get a diplomatic passport?
kyle seraphin
I did when I was in the FBI.
tim pool
Oh, okay.
kyle seraphin
And they didn't take it back, so I have my expired passport.
tim pool
Does everybody who serves get a diplomatic passport, like when you're working for the U.S.
government?
kyle seraphin
No.
So when I was an agent, you could get it.
I just went over across the way to headquarters.
They did them out of the Hoover building.
If you thought you might need it and there was a possibility you might travel for work, you could get it.
So it wasn't like, you know, it wasn't like an exciting thing or wasn't granted to you.
If you thought it was a possibility, you can go through the rigmarole of filling out the paperwork and sending it over.
tim pool
What does it do for you?
kyle seraphin
Nothing.
It's the same passport.
So it's red.
So you'd use it on official duties.
And so they basically log you in as dip status or as you are represented the U.S.
government, you're there for official process.
But I've heard of people using it on their personal travels as well.
I had a regular passport as well.
I had a blue and I had a red and I don't know the advantage unless you're actually doing something that is very specific in a diplomatic mission, State Department or whatever.
For what I was going to be doing, like I didn't want to travel ever because the place they would have sent me to would be like looking at Chinese spies.
And that seemed like it was not a good place to go.
I definitely wasn't going to go to China.
I knew that.
He stole all of our data.
tim pool
Tim Waltz has some weird Chinese connections.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, it's so strange.
tim pool
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
And remember, China is where we pseudo-boycotted the Olympics, but we actually didn't.
We sent all of our athletes.
We just didn't send any high-ranking officials.
And then we told the U.S.
athletes, don't use your cell phone there because they will steal your information.
kyle seraphin
It's already done.
hannah claire brimelow
I don't understand the U.S.' 's relationship with China, and I think it's very weird under the Biden administration.
tim pool
All right, we're going to go to Super Chats.
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That could be you, if you become a member at TimCast.com.
But for now, smash that like button.
We're going to read your Super Chats.
Frost787 says, first, what do you think of THGG, That Hoe's Gotta Go?
It's okay.
You know, I don't know.
I think Crooked Kamala.
Cackling Kamala.
Crooked Kamala's probably good.
People are overthinking these nicknames.
You know, they want Tampon Tim, and I'm like, nobody knows what that means.
You gotta call him, like, Bad Economy Waltz.
Just like, there you go.
Bad Economy Guy.
hannah claire brimelow
I think you should just start saying, who?
Because 71% of the country had no idea who he was.
tim pool
That one works, too.
All right.
Dalamar says, get all independent voters you know registered.
Make a plan for election day or sooner to get them to vote Trump.
There you go.
Elliott Cruz says, spread it far and wide when people hear Kamala Harris laugh.
I want them to think of Ed, the nutty hyena from Lion King.
Keep animals out of the Oval Office.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, okay.
tim pool
I'm not your buddy, guy says.
I cannot understand how anyone could conclude this wasn't an inside job.
Now I will admit who orchestrated may be up for debate, whether it was the globalist economic liberal order or China IDK.
Seriously.
Small mouse in a big field says it wasn't an inside job.
They subcontracted it.
Haha.
Nowhere Man says, hey Tim, watching for three years and IRL is our household's primary news source.
Keep up the great work.
P.S.
Ian is based and bring Spoonman back on.
Wait, has Seamus abandoned us?
Seamus has just left and he's never come back.
In fact, I texted Seamus, and this is true, I texted Seamus when Anti-Woke Dog came out, his cartoon, saying that it was based and he only just messaged me back about it today.
Seamus, you know, I don't know.
kyle seraphin
This is a bad friend.
hannah claire brimelow
This is a bad friend.
tim pool
I don't know what's happened to you, Seamus.
I don't know.
hannah claire brimelow
He got famous, became a bad friend.
tim pool
It was a month ago.
kyle seraphin
I hate when I find a month-old text and I respond to it, I'm like, this doesn't look good.
tim pool
I said, dear Seamus, my best friend, you are the greatest cartoonist and your comedy is so great, and he ignored me.
hannah claire brimelow
He's a bad person!
kyle seraphin
That was a Donald Trump kind of compliment.
tim pool
Oh, Trump is so good when he roasted Bill Barr.
Remember that post he made where he was like, I called him fat, lethargic and incompetent, but because he endorsed me, I'll remove lethargic from that statement.
Jeez, he's good.
hannah claire brimelow
I liked when they accused him of sleeping in trial and he's like, I was just resting my beautiful blue eyes.
unidentified
Yeah, my beautiful blue eyes.
tim pool
Lunar Bow says, can you talk about the Charlemagne the God slideshow titled Things You Need to Know Before You Vote?
I see so many of my friends posting it, like I feel like I'm in the toilet zone.
I have no idea what that is.
Never heard of it.
hannah claire brimelow
I'll have to tap in our hip-hop correspondent, Serge.
tim pool
Hal Galey says, I trust Harris Waltz with power less than I trust a fart in an airplane with no toilets after a week in India eating street food and drinking the water.
kyle seraphin
That's dangerous.
elad eliahu
Specific.
Jeez.
tim pool
Yeah, that was a little much.
unidentified
Man.
tim pool
All right, let's go.
Relentless Hemi says, try the new Timpax Heavy Flow Tampons.
kyle seraphin
Shout out to Tim Waltz.
It's not going to catch.
It's not going to catch.
unidentified
Yeah.
kyle seraphin
You know what catches?
You see, I pissed off an awful lot of military veterans.
tim pool
Hey, Waltz.
kyle seraphin
Yeah, his story about- Kim Ewaltz.
That's not a bad one.
tim pool
I didn't come up with that.
That's what people have been saying.
kyle seraphin
Yeah, yeah, just the fact that he- the number of people that I've seen that have been trending saying, here's me, not like, you know, neglecting my duty.
unidentified
Yep.
kyle seraphin
This is me.
And it's a bunch of people on deployments.
I think that's powerful.
I think it's strong.
The fact that he was going after guns saying, you know, guns I used while I was in war.
It's like, bro.
tim pool
MF Damien says, I got a pretty accurate AI-generated real-time summary of the live chat when I opened the stream.
When did this transcription nightmare start?
What do you mean real-time summary of the live chat?
I don't know what that means.
hannah claire brimelow
That sounds wild and also horrifying.
tim pool
I don't know how you summarize a live chat, it's just people saying random things.
Baltescalo says, if Kamala has a plan to fix inflation, why doesn't she just tell Joe about it so they can fix it now?
That's actually, I tweeted that, because there's this clip going viral.
Let me pull this up.
She's basically just saying, suffer.
Ha ha ha ha ha.
kyle seraphin
She said something to the effect of, like, in my first days in office.
And it's like, dude, you're already in office.
You're already there.
tim pool
Prices for everyday things like groceries are still too high.
You know it and I know it.
When I am president, it will be a day one priority to fight to bring down prices.
So she's basically saying, she may as well have said, I could fix all your problems right now, but I'm not gonna unless you vote for me.
It's like, oh, that sucks.
And you could do it now, but you won't.
kyle seraphin
And they're still going for it.
And I don't think she can do it.
So there's that.
tim pool
Yep.
Titan Soap says, as an actual combat veteran, I really hope the Trump campaign hammers tampon Tim with stolen valor.
The VP debate will be interesting.
Semper Fi.
Yeah, I think they should call for him to resign.
I thought Trump's press conference should have been to state that Tim Walz's statements about serving in war are shockingly offensive to veterans in this country.
And for this reason, I'm calling on him to resign from this position.
This is not a position he should have.
Resign as governor, blah, blah, blah.
elad eliahu
Vance would be a good guy to hammer him on that because I don't think he was, he was like a correspondent or something.
He was in a combat zone.
I don't think he saw combat, but Waltz wasn't even close to it.
So we'll see if we get those scheduled too, even the VP debates.
hannah claire brimelow
Nicholas Maduro says X is about to be banned.
tim pool
He did ban it.
For 10 days.
elad eliahu
Oh, in Venezuela?
unidentified
Yeah.
elad eliahu
For 10 days?
kyle seraphin
That's like... Why not a cool Fortnite?
What's going on here?
tim pool
Yeah, right.
How'd you come up with 10 days?
elad eliahu
Banning your app for 10 days.
kyle seraphin
It's 10 business days, so it actually is a Fortnite.
hannah claire brimelow
It's like a timeout?
kyle seraphin
That's what it should be.
Yeah.
You're in timeout.
tim pool
Lurch685 says, I'm a private security professional of 20 years.
Totally inside job, not in competence.
I'm so sick of this default excuse.
I agree.
kyle seraphin
The problem is, if you're a private security contractor, you are held to a competency standard that the government is not.
tim pool
Yeah, a fair market value standard, too.
Are you good at your job or not?
kyle seraphin
Just saying.
It's tough.
It's tough to see that.
tim pool
Darius Lipsy says, Tim Kast is full of coincidence theorist.
Is full on coincidence theorist?
kyle seraphin
I like full of, and I like coincidence theorist.
I can get behind that.
tim pool
So coincidence theorist is a reference to people who think it was all an accident and it's all incompetence.
kyle seraphin
I like that there's a term for it.
tim pool
Right.
And then conspiracy theories that you think there was coordination at some level.
Yeah.
kyle seraphin
It's got to be both, to be fair.
It's probably a percentage of both.
The question is, is how much of it, if you fail... Here's the thing.
If you prepare yourself, you tend to get more lucky and do things better.
If you don't prepare, you tend to get more unlucky.
So those things can overlap.
The question is what percentage of it was.
tim pool
Let me put it this way.
If I walk into my living room, and my window is shattered, and there's a rock on the ground, I'm not gonna be like, ugh.
You know, someone accidentally threw a rock through my window.
The security guards that we had here must have made a mistake.
I might be like, someone intentionally threw a rock through my window.
How did this happen?
Like, I'm not gonna assume there's an accident.
Like, oh, somebody must have accidentally was playing catch with a rock, and then it went to the window.
Only explanation.
kyle seraphin
You never lived next to me when I was a kid.
tim pool
I mean, maybe if I lived next to a kid, but... Yeah, that's right.
I'm not gonna assume that a rock was rolling on the ground and the wind whipped it in the air.
I'm gonna assume someone intentionally threw a rock through my window.
elad eliahu
And if you're a coincidence theorist, as I am, I've mentioned this a few times on shows prior, but one of the most unnerving things about this is, if you do believe it was just one motivated, crazy 20-year-old, relatively young shooter, That's to say that many people, many political people are vulnerable because most senators don't have, congressmen don't have secret service.
Nobody has as good a security as Donald Trump does besides like Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.
So what does that mean for them?
kyle seraphin
It seems like everybody does actually.
elad eliahu
So what does that mean for them if a motivated young person wanted to... A veil of civility is paper thin.
tim pool
What would you do if you hired a, I don't know, a plumber to come and fix your plumbing and then During the process by which they're in your kitchen, in your bathroom, you hear one guy go, ah!
And then black sludge that sprang all over the place, and they go, we didn't do it, it was a coincidence.
kyle seraphin
Then you hired a government plumber, that's how that works.
tim pool
You'd be like, uh, dude.
kyle seraphin
That person goes back and writes it up and gets a promotion.
tim pool
I'm pretty sure you did it.
elad eliahu
This needs to be thoroughly investigated.
So I'm not like excusing.
kyle seraphin
And not by the people that are doing it right now.
Let me just throw that out there.
I just it's because they're not accountable.
I would have loved to see the state police take it.
I understand that there's a federal nexus simply because it was a federal protectee.
The state police should be doing a full collab job.
At least the state police are going to answer to some people in their state.
elad eliahu
Like I'd like to see the PA Many more resignations.
We only saw Sheetal, was it?
Resign.
Head of Secret Service, I believe it was.
kyle seraphin
Very reluctantly at that point.
elad eliahu
Kind of pressured into it.
It seemed like from Republican senators and stuff, when she was at the RNC, she was getting a lot.
kyle seraphin
Not to say it really flippantly, but while the FBI was letting somebody in and tracking a guy with 24-hour surveillance, do you have any idea how many people you have to wrap up to follow some Pakistani dude 24-7?
You're talking about three shifts of surveillance agents.
That's a minimum of like six to eight per shift.
That's just the surveillance end of it.
Then you have analysts, then you have people that are doing all the exploitation, then you've got the case agents and anybody else that's doing the undercover operation.
There's a lot of people.
And in the meantime, the actual guy that took an actual shot at the actual former president standing up there giving a speech, that actually happened while the FBI was running around after the person that they created.
That's the thing that bothers me so much.
The opportunity cost continues to be the biggest question.
What are your resources?
They're finite, and you're using them to bring and import your own fake terrorists in so you can have a win the day before someone actually pulls off the legitimacy.
tim pool
But I think you made a really important point.
We don't know how many of these instances where the FBI, we know they stage these hoax terror attacks so they can take them down and claim they did heroic work.
How often do they try to convince a guy to do something, and then he cuts off contact and then goes and does it?
And they're like, oh crap.
kyle seraphin
It's going to be stuck in a source room, and it's going to be hidden for 25 to 50 years under the human category.
You will not find out the name of those things.
And Congress doesn't have visibility to it, and I'm not confident the Inspector General does either.
tim pool
What if that was the vaguest thing?
kyle seraphin
Here's the other problem.
We focus in on the FBI because they're the one that's the most prominent, but the most scary animal that's out there is under DHS.
They have absolutely no DIOG, which is the thing that I always harp on.
It's really technical for people, but the FBI has a playbook.
There are rules.
It's not Vietnam.
I feel like I'm Walter from Big Lebowski, but there are rules that the FBI falls under.
They can break those rules, and they do sometimes, and they shouldn't, and they should be held accountable.
DHS doesn't even have a rulebook.
So they don't even have to worry about ignoring it.
And the scariest thing, Tim, that most people don't realize is that they bring DHS, like HSI agents and ICE and other stuff, they bring them on to FBI task force so that the HSI agent can do the thing that the FBI is not allowed to do because the FBI has rules.
And those people don't lose their authorities when they join a task force.
So some of this stuff is really wild.
Who knows who the DHS guys are recruiting and what kind of ops they're incentivized to because I don't know what their metrics look like.
I don't know what their stats are.
And they always seem to have a really cush job.
They didn't seem to have to report to anybody.
They'd come to our office for a couple days, they'd go to their office a couple days, they'd go hang out in the desert for a couple days, I don't know.
They had a very different animal.
So a lot of people are not paying attention to the fact that DHS is 10x the size of the FBI.
It's a significantly bigger and probably a more threatening animal.
Especially for all the people that follow Intel stuff.
tim pool
Alright, Daniel Karimian says, I fully support changing the show's name to DanCast.
hannah claire brimelow
Just temporarily while we wait out this Tim Walz storm.
kyle seraphin
Debcast.
tim pool
Let's go.
What have we here?
Josh Judge says, U.S.
Army infantry here.
On a handgun, the recoil force of the slide isn't that powerful.
You can hold the slide stationary when firing.
It can be a strategy to get the gun out of the fight because the next round won't chamber.
Oh, well, how about that?
kyle seraphin
Unless it's small, weak female hands, then it's gonna hurt.
tim pool
Yeah, I figured you're gonna get some pain there.
kyle seraphin
But I agree with him.
Fundamentally, I agree with him.
tim pool
Richard Devine says, an officer in Iraq at the clearing barrel wondering why rounds keep coming out of his pistol when charged, knew a soldier was mentally effed up from Iraq, 09, was in the Fort Hood shooting, had to go back to Iraq, they need numbers.
Wow.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Yoshiaki Koga says, Secret Service has recent history of incompetence.
Two attempts on Obama, one Bush, a former head of SS resigned over the attempt on Obama.
Look up real life lore video on the topic.
Interesting.
kyle seraphin
Or the Joe Rogan stand-up routine where he talked about the female that got punched out on the White House lawn.
tim pool
Right, she jumped over the fence or whatever?
kyle seraphin
No, it was a guy that jumped over the fence, but it was like a woman standing post at the front door.
And they just hit her?
Well, yeah, that's Rogan's whole point.
He's like, dude, guys, diversity, but not that diversity.
Not a single lady standing in front of the front door.
tim pool
Or firefighters.
Or police.
kyle seraphin
You know.
tim pool
Sure.
Justin Newcomb says, PSA, if you're worried about election interference and voter fraud, do your civic duty as an American and sign up to work at the polls.
Don't peek through a poll station window to verify integrity.
Be a volunteer this year.
Yup.
Yes, indeed.
All right, what have we here?
Stone to Mason says, good evening, Tim and crew.
An old man taught me the secret to a happy life some years back, and it was quite simple.
Okay, is that a crypto thing you're promoting?
Well, I won't read that.
All right.
Or is he saying buy rum?
Well, I'll just I'll leave it at that.
But I don't drink alcohol.
unidentified
So there might be a token or alcohol.
tim pool
Yeah.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Fleen toke says just tried to give the IRS some money that they say I owe the website is partially down due to an outage.
Don't know what that means.
But just wanted to throw that out.
hannah claire brimelow
I think you should not have to pay it anymore.
The website's down.
They clearly don't want it that badly.
kyle seraphin
It's called a good faith effort.
unidentified
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
kyle seraphin
Can we write it off on that?
hannah claire brimelow
I'm just kidding.
That's bad financial and legal advice.
Yeah, don't do that.
tim pool
Polypuree says, Tim, I wish you would make a bottled mocha frappuccino like Starbucks with less sugar.
I would buy it.
Oh, dude, I would too.
That's what I can't stand about these products.
They dump sugar in them.
kyle seraphin
Yeah, they're crazy.
tim pool
It's like, hey, the liquid deaths that we have here, I think they have like between five and seven grams of sugar and they're great.
I don't need 30 to 60 grams of sugar in my drink.
I'm not crazy.
People do, I guess.
kyle seraphin
Young people do.
tim pool
I don't know, man.
kyle seraphin
At some point you age out of being able to handle that much sugar.
hannah claire brimelow
I think sugar's just kind of addictive.
Like, you get used to how sweet something is, and so then you want more and more of it.
kyle seraphin
Yeah, the hyper-palatability kind of thing.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Like, did you ever, if you, like, mix sweets, like, if you drink Coke and then eat ice cream, the ice cream doesn't taste sweet at all because you've already overloaded your taste buds?
kyle seraphin
I did not have that experience last night, but I still do that.
tim pool
You were drinking Coke and eating ice cream?
kyle seraphin
Yeah, I'm a grown-up that eats like a child.
tim pool
If you eat something super sweet, then eat something that's slightly less sweet, it tastes less sweet, because your body, you know.
unidentified
Sure.
kyle seraphin
Prioritizes.
tim pool
Well, it's just that you get adapted.
kyle seraphin
And there's only so much I can take anymore.
I used to be the guy that, like, I could eat, like, a whole chocolate cake, and it's game over, and now, like, I eat one, and I'm like, I probably should've done it.
elad eliahu
It's the marginal utility for sugar, so each, the more sugar you... I think it's called my 40s.
tim pool
I just... I've never liked cake.
kyle seraphin
It's like a confession.
tim pool
Yeah, I'd rather have ice cream.
Cake is, it's good.
kyle seraphin
How do you feel about private property ownership?
tim pool
It's great.
kyle seraphin
Okay, good.
So not a commie, just don't like cake.
tim pool
Yeah, cake is okay, but... It is one of the tests, just saying.
Like, I'll put it this way, I would rather have lasagna.
You know what I mean?
kyle seraphin
I just... Good lasagna is pretty good.
tim pool
Right, so it's, cake is just, it's a sweet treat, that's fine.
And if it has frosting... But like, a lobster risotto, I have always preferred, like, a bowl of lobster bisque over, like, a slice of cake.
I like savory more.
elad eliahu
Cake's an overrated dessert.
It doesn't... I agree.
It's filtered.
kyle seraphin
What about like a creme brulee?
hannah claire brimelow
Okay, what about... Yeah.
What about like... Yeah, that's better.
elad eliahu
That's much better.
hannah claire brimelow
What about like a bag of chips?
Would you rather have a bag of chips than a slice of cake?
unidentified
Mmm.
tim pool
Is there dip?
unidentified
Sure.
Yes.
kyle seraphin
What kind of chips?
tim pool
Tortilla chips with guacamole over cake any day.
hannah claire brimelow
I just think some people are prone.
They like salt versus they like sugar, which seems natural, right?
elad eliahu
Last one.
How do you feel about banana pudding with Nilla wafers?
I'm a sucker for it.
tim pool
Oh, great.
elad eliahu
I'm going to move to the south.
hannah claire brimelow
Isn't that like way better than cake?
elad eliahu
Yeah, no, it's just more flavor.
I'm also a sucker for bananas.
kyle seraphin
I don't like the banana thing.
tim pool
If someone offered me rice pudding or cake, I'd take rice pudding.
Cake is okay.
elad eliahu
It's too much like clumpy, bready, nothing, flavorless, nothing.
And the icing's always like... I like ice cream cake.
Carvel ice cream cake.
unidentified
Sure!
hannah claire brimelow
That's iconic.
tim pool
It's okay.
kyle seraphin
I could change your mind, but you need homemade frosting.
You can't have the garbage that comes out of the can.
tim pool
Good chocolate chip cookies, or oatmeal chocolate chip cookies that are made with a little too much butter so they get, you know, nice and a little crispy.
elad eliahu
Oatmeal raisin is underrated, frankly.
tim pool
Nah, raisin's really devolved.
Get the raisins out of there.
You bring raisins to dessert and you're getting thrown out.
elad eliahu
Oh, the raisin's like a nice coat that makes me feel nice about myself.
Like, oh no, the raisin's not good.
hannah claire brimelow
It's healthy.
tim pool
I would rather have a bowl of oatmeal with some cream than cake.
kyle seraphin
Totally unrelated to any of those things, but I saw a lady the other day who was complaining that people have basically pickled all the things you can pickle.
How come they haven't pickled cucumbers yet?
And I went like, those people can vote.
That's the thing that I thought about.
I was like, that lady, that's a Kamala voter right there.
tim pool
I would rather eat a bowl of spaghetti than cake.
elad eliahu
Cake's just terrible.
tim pool
I don't know, it's okay.
elad eliahu
So Tim's birthday, no birthday cake?
hannah claire brimelow
Savory treats only.
kyle seraphin
Or lasagna or other pastas.
hannah claire brimelow
No, you're like anti-carb though, right?
tim pool
Yeah, I'm gonna probably have just like a bunch of chicken wings.
I'll get- Oyo asada.
elad eliahu
I'll get the ice cream cake.
Or whatever.
I'll get that for your birthday.
tim pool
I saw that.
I had table side guacamole today and chicken fajitas.
And I always, you know, no cilantro a lot of my guacamole.
kyle seraphin
Can I throw my idea on how to fix some of these problems that we've had?
I was talking to the driver about it.
No, no, this is just the guacamole thing reminded me.
You've been to London, yes?
tim pool
Yeah.
kyle seraphin
What's the one thing about the food that you remember?
tim pool
They have cheese onion sandwiches.
elad eliahu
Ew.
kyle seraphin
Generally not great food.
And terrible Mexican food.
hannah claire brimelow
Hey, hey, hey.
The British are doing their best.
kyle seraphin
They contribute a lot to world history.
I love British breakfast.
tim pool
Amazing beans, blood pudding, tomato, mushrooms.
unidentified
I can't do it.
kyle seraphin
I had a guy that I was flatmates with when I was in college.
His name was Andy Buttons, which is a great name for a guy from Cornwall.
And he would always tell me, I'm like, what is this?
Blood pudding?
Or black pudding?
And he was like, yeah, mate.
He's like, this is congealed blood.
And I'm like, ah, pass.
After all of that.
tim pool
So good.
kyle seraphin
So, here's the thing.
We need cultural enrichment, according to the political left.
They've told us this.
That's why we have to leave the border open.
I would propose that we start a non-profit, where we get cruise ships, and they start making treks from the original homeland in Britain, down to, let's say, Galveston, Texas, and we start swapping- The original homeland in Britain?
elad eliahu
British?
kyle seraphin
Well, I'm talking about the country here.
This country has a British root, does it not?
We have British common law.
hannah claire brimelow
Yes, it 100% does.
Don't let the law lie to you.
elad eliahu
I don't know if I'd ever call them the homeland, though.
kyle seraphin
I'm just telling you that we have a- No, no, no, no, Alad's right.
tim pool
It's a motherland.
kyle seraphin
Okay, Motherland, call it what you like.
What I want to see is I want to see the cultural enrichment where we trade some of these people coming in off the southern border, cruise ships full of them, for Brits that are sick of being censored on social media and that are having a hard time with some of the bad ideas.
elad eliahu
You want to surrender the Britain?
kyle seraphin
I want to bring the Brits here and put them through a Texas indoctrination camp.
We make them wear red coats.
They have to go out and shoot machine guns that are suppressed at Tannerite targets.
Until they raise the Gadsden flag and then we let them loose and maybe we let them vote too.
Like, let's just bring them in, let's Americanize these people.
Let's do a one-to-one swap.
tim pool
I disagree.
I disagree.
kyle seraphin
Ecuadorians.
tim pool
He's thought a lot about that.
kyle seraphin
I want to bend to Europe.
tim pool
Nope, nope, nope.
It's wrong.
On cruise ships.
Wrong.
Excuse me.
kyle seraphin
Wrong.
tim pool
No.
What we do is, when the people cross the border on the south, if they're criminals, they've
got to go back.
But if they're not criminals, and I mean like if they're criminals before crossing the border,
if the only crime they committed was crossing the border, then they've got to put on the
coats, then they've got to go do the shooting range with the Tannerite and all that stuff.
And in exchange, the communist leftists get sent to Ecuador.
unidentified
Thank you.
kyle seraphin
We're going to export people to Ecuador too?
I think we should export people to England as well.
Let's do the cruise ship thing, it's fun.
unidentified
I'm saying, the woke left, Venezuela awaits.
tim pool
The communist socialists in this country, Venezuela is right there.
kyle seraphin
It's a utopia.
tim pool
Make Venezuela great again.
All you got to do is take all these lefties, and I will pay to help them move to Venezuela.
kyle seraphin
How many are you willing to spot?
tim pool
Depends on the cost of moving to Venezuela.
I can't imagine it being too expensive.
You're going to need a boat, let's be real.
Maduro may want some college-educated people in his country.
He may subsidize it.
kyle seraphin
Or he might kill them all off.
That's also possible, too.
tim pool
No, Maduro is not going to do that.
He's going to just force them to do work they might not want to do.
You know what I mean?
elad eliahu
I'd be down to make the UK four new states, if need be.
kyle seraphin
You want to annex the entire UK?
elad eliahu
Yeah, just four new states.
tim pool
What would happen with Ireland and Northern Ireland?
Northern Ireland is a US state.
elad eliahu
Yeah, we'll just separate them, make them states, get over it.
kyle seraphin
I have a meme that somebody sent me and it's a MAGA guy and it's like a IRA guy and he's wearing the beret and he has like an RPG on his back.
And he goes, the MAGA guy goes, you know, I got jailed for walking around in the Capitol on January 6th.
And the IRA guy goes, he was like, lol, you got into the Capitol and you didn't blow it up?
They took it so much harder over there.
We have to agree that the 80s were harder in every way.
elad eliahu
I was hoping with Brexit, you know, things were angling, they're leaving the EU, they're coming closer to us, you know, they're an island, they're not continentally attached.
kyle seraphin
They need to be annexed.
elad eliahu
Down the line, down the line, once we're annexing parts of Canada, northern Mexico, when we have to annex, unfortunately, when we have to deal with the cartels, and then we'll bring the UK into the fold as well.
All of Hannah Clare's ancestors, all of the countries where Hannah Clare's from.
hannah claire brimelow
I'm happy.
You know, I love the relationship between England and the U.S.
when both countries are functional.
kyle seraphin
Would you like it better if we just conquered it?
Should we just?
hannah claire brimelow
You know, I think actually America does a bad job of ignoring their historic ties to Europe.
But the biggest issue is before we annex anybody, let us remove the mass immigration, the mass populations of illegal immigrants who have arrived in them.
Because I don't want to annex something and then have to just compound our current illegal immigration problem.
elad eliahu
Inshallah Trump will handle that if elected again in 2024.
I think he said he was going to do mass deportations.
kyle seraphin
I'd sign up for that.
tim pool
We got a tornado watch going on right now.
elad eliahu
In West Virginia.
hannah claire brimelow
Do I live in the studio now?
I'm not going to be able to get home?
kyle seraphin
That's it.
You're here.
tim pool
But those only watches.
We have a flood warning happening right now.
Let's see.
elad eliahu
And this is from the tropical storm that originally hit North Carolina, I believe, and actually forced Kamala Harris to postpone a rally, I believe, she was supposed to have there earlier today.
hannah claire brimelow
Wow, look at you putting everything back into politics.
kyle seraphin
That was well done.
elad eliahu
Reflexive.
kyle seraphin
Everybody was impressed.
hannah claire brimelow
So do you think people are getting political fatigue a lot?
Because you're on the ground so much.
elad eliahu
Oh no, we're just getting back into the fold again.
And we're at the final sprint of the last hundred days.
It's been super exciting.
Happy to see the rallies kick up again.
And these are big rallies.
These aren't just like Congress members and like senators having rallies.
These are presidential candidates having rallies.
And, you know, they're introduced by the congressmen and senators.
It's a very exciting time.
kyle seraphin
What do you think about Gwen Walsh shaking hands with Tim on the stage before hugging him?
Have you ever seen a husband and wife shake hands?
I haven't seen that much.
elad eliahu
Especially with Kamala kissing Doug Emhoff right behind them while they were shaking.
kyle seraphin
I didn't realize how effeminate Doug Emhoff was when I heard him do that fake phone call that they did.
hannah claire brimelow
This man willingly got called the second husband for three and a half years?
kyle seraphin
I understand that part.
I get that there's a posture person, but I've never actually listened to him speak and been like, oh my.
That is a very weak constitution that he has presented.
tim pool
I gotta read this one, this is from Barrett1313, he says, pie, apple, pecan, etc., pie is based.
All pies are great, don't care what they are.
If it is a banana cream pie, sure, I'd prefer an apple pie, but pie is great.
Cake?
Boring.
elad eliahu
Pie feels inherently American.
I don't know why I feel that way.
tim pool
It's a pure dessert.
elad eliahu
It just, it makes it, when I think of pie, I think of it like on a shelf next to an American flag.
kyle seraphin
Galette is like an open-faced pie.
So the crust only covers probably like a third on the outer rim?
tim pool
If it's a cousin of pie, then it's good.
kyle seraphin
Yeah, it's clearly a cousin.
Cake boring.
Maybe even closer relative than cake.
tim pool
Flourless chocolate cake, which is basically fudge, it's okay.
I'd prefer that.
If you add like a flourless chocolate lava cake, that's not even cake.
That's something else.
That's like a fudgy explosion.
unidentified
I love it.
kyle seraphin
If that happens, you're at Chili's.
tim pool
Uh, where did I get one of those last?
I don't remember.
Bricks in Martinsburg?
kyle seraphin
Do they have that?
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, theirs is really good.
kyle seraphin
My buddy tried to bring something up called the Chili's Challenge.
He would call girls up that he was friends with and invite them to lunch, and then they'd be like, where do you want to go?
And he'd be like, I don't know, where do you want to go?
And they'd be like, I don't know.
And he'd be like, how about Chili's?
And he would always, like, offer Chili's, and then they would be really mad about it and insulted.
Like, for some reason, women are really angry about going to Chili's.
And then he would always do, like, this half-assed recovery.
unidentified
He's like, you know, they have, like, pretty good service, and the food's always, like, pretty normal.
kyle seraphin
And they'd be like, I'm not interested.
I'm not going there.
He would call like one person a week and try to make this- you can't make chilis happen apparently with- Really?
tim pool
I don't- I don't want to go to Chili's.
kyle seraphin
I'll take my wife to Chili's in a heartbeat.
hannah claire brimelow
I don't care.
Would you rather go to Chili's or Applebee's?
kyle seraphin
Chili's.
unidentified
See?
tim pool
Oh, Applebee's.
kyle seraphin
A hundred times out of a hundred.
tim pool
Applebee's.
kyle seraphin
But I used to work at Chili's.
I worked at multiple Chili's.
hannah claire brimelow
So you're brainwashed.
You don't count.
kyle seraphin
Clearly.
I worked at the original Chili's in North Dallas in Texas, and then I also worked at the highest volume Chili's at the time in Oklahoma City.
hannah claire brimelow
Wow.
kyle seraphin
I got some Chili's cred.
So, just saying.
hannah claire brimelow
Are they gonna sponsor your show?
kyle seraphin
He's very chill.
Absolutely not.
No, it's Breaker International.
Their woke is all get out.
Like, they're that.
tim pool
Ruby Tuesday is a salad bar, don't they?
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I think they do.
tim pool
They win.
kyle seraphin
I got kicked out of a Ruby Tuesdays because I wouldn't wear a mask with my girls.
tim pool
Oh, then no.
There's a restaurant in Martinsburg that has a nacho bar.
kyle seraphin
Nacho bar is a good idea.
They have that at Chewy's.
They always have that at Chewy's.
unidentified
Oh, really?
kyle seraphin
Which is an Austin original, but now they have them in Virginia.
So you can find them up here.
There's one in Woodbridge.
tim pool
We were looking for a restaurant, and then someone recommended this restaurant in Martinsburg.
I forgot what it's called, but they were like, they have a nacho bar.
So you go, and you just, they say, nacho bar is just nacho bar.
You do whatever you want, and there's chips, and there's all this.
kyle seraphin
You're like, who's bar is this?
You're like, I don't know, it's nacho bar.
tim pool
Oh, it was nuts.
I just, I just took the whole thing of sour cream and just dumped it on the plate.
kyle seraphin
I am a dad, I got four kids.
elad eliahu
These restaurants sound nice, but Lebanese and Palestinian restaurants are far superior.
hannah claire brimelow
Okay, Brooklyn, just calm down.
tim pool
You said Palestinian?
elad eliahu
Yeah, Lebanese and Palestinian food.
tim pool
Where's Palestinian food?
elad eliahu
It's like Lebanese food, it's just like Middle Eastern.
tim pool
I do like Lebanese.
kyle seraphin
A little bit more terroristic?
elad eliahu
A little bit.
I think their falafel is shaped a little differently.
unidentified
Huh.
tim pool
Do you ever have Turkish food?
elad eliahu
Uh, like, isn't it just different kebabs?
tim pool
No, they have this, uh, they have a dessert.
elad eliahu
Is that offensive?
tim pool
They have a dessert that looks like vanilla pudding, but it's actually made of pulled chicken.
kyle seraphin
I don't want that.
tim pool
So it's delicious.
I believe you, but I don't want it.
And it's crazy.
So I went in and I was like, oh, what's this?
And they're like, it's a dessert.
And I got it.
And I'm like, this is great.
It's like cinnamon vanilla pudding.
And my friend, Turkish guy, was like, it's chicken.
And I was like, ha ha.
He's like, no, it's chicken.
And then he like looked it up and explained it to me.
And he's like, you pull the chicken and then you mix it with something.
I was like, well, it's delicious.
So I'll eat it.
And then they have something that they call the Iskander.
And it's because, uh, it's named after Alexander the Great.
That's what he told me.
And he said that it's because his name was Alexander, and they thought Al is the, so they thought it was the Xander, so they made a food called the Iskander.
kyle seraphin
I'm for it.
I'm for weird names.
elad eliahu
This was in Turkey?
tim pool
Islak Burger in Taksim Square.
If you're ever in Taksim, because, I don't know, I don't know who would want to be there right now, but the glorious after-hours bar food is called the Wet Hamburger, the Islak Burger.
And it is like a lamb burger and a bun they dip in this oily sauce and then put under a heat lamp.
And it's basically people who are getting out of the bars and drunk and want food.
It's like a buck and then you get this.
It's so good.
It's a soggy, wet burger.
Anyway, we're gonna wrap it up there.
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kyle seraphin
Yeah.
Well, first of all, say hey to my friend David, who is one of your biggest fans and he got really excited.
He saw my face on.
So what's up, David?
Also, you guys, if you want to follow me, you can do it at Kyle Serafin on X on True Social and KyleSerafin.com if you want to find the podcast.
elad eliahu
My name's Allad Eliyahu.
I'm a field reporter here at TimCast News.
If you want to check out our work, it's TimCastNews on Twitter and Instagram.
If you want to DM me and complain about my takes, you could do that at my personal Instagram, BarelyInformedWithAllad.
tim pool
See, his name represents exactly what the criticisms are.
elad eliahu
Yeah, there you go, guys.
hannah claire brimelow
Wow-zing.
Yeah, guys, thanks for joining us for what I think was mostly a food review tonight.
That was pretty good.
I'm Hannah-Claire Brimlow.
I'm a writer for scnr.com, Scanner News.
You can follow all our work, like Elad said, at TimCastNews on the internet, if you want to follow me personally.
I'm hannahclaire.b on Instagram.
I'm hannahclaireb on Twitter.
I don't know if I'll read any hate that you send me, but maybe.
Thanks for everything you guys do.
Have a good night.
tim pool
We will see you all over at timcast.com in about a minute.
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