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tim pool
So earlier today, outside of Donald Trump's trial, a man self-immolated and immediately
a lot of people were claiming it was like a Trump supporter who must have been supporting
Turns out it is a leftist, a Bernie Sanders-supporting anarcho-communist, donor to the Democrats, and he put out some manifesto, basically hated everybody.
So we'll definitely talk about that.
And, uh... Man, it's gonna be a wild day, I guess.
We've got a crazy story to kick things off.
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Joining us tonight to talk about this and much more is Brandon Gill.
unidentified
Hi, everybody.
I'm Brandon Gill.
I'm the Republican nominee for U.S.
Congress from Texas's 26th congressional district.
tim pool
Right on.
All right.
Well, thanks for hanging out.
That was easy.
unidentified
Thanks for having me.
tim pool
Yeah, we got Phil hanging out.
phil labonte
Hello, everybody.
My name's Phil Abate.
I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains, anti-communist and counter-revolutionary.
Libby, how you doing?
libby emmons
I'm good, Phil.
unidentified
How are you?
Good to see you.
phil labonte
I'm well.
libby emmons
Nice to be here with you, Phil, and you, Brandon, and you, Tim, and Serge.
I'm Libby Emmons.
I'm the Editor-in-Chief with The Postmillennial and HumanEvents.com.
unidentified
And I'm here too.
Last one in the studio.
Let's go.
tim pool
Here's a story from the Postmillennial.
Man who lit himself on fire outside of New York City Trump trial, ID'd as anti-fascist agitator Max Azzarello.
Final post was singing, start a effing revolution.
The man was ID'd as Max Azzarello, who claimed to be an investigative researcher.
So I guess that's the story, I mean, do we know, uh, he had a substat called the Ponzi Papers?
Was the- he was like- he put out a manifesto, do we know why he did this?
What- what was he trying to do?
libby emmons
He sort of hated everybody.
He seemed pretty blackmailed to me.
He was definitely leftist, as we saw.
He posed with Bernie Sanders, but his manifesto called out the hypocrisy of conservatives and liberals.
And he also seemed to be a little nuts, but he blasted the apocalyptic narratives that have been coming down the pike.
He blasted media.
tim pool
Apocalyptic narratives?
libby emmons
Yeah, yeah.
Is that the manifesto story or the other one?
tim pool
I think this is the other one.
This is the Start a Revolution one.
libby emmons
Hold on one second.
tim pool
Oh, there's like writings in there.
I don't want to show his writings.
libby emmons
Yeah, there's writings.
Let me just pull it up because I... This is one that I... There's a picture of him with Bill Clinton.
tim pool
I feel bad when I see this guy's picture.
Like, this poor guy gets lied to, tricked, manipulated, driven insane, and then he torches himself.
Like, come on, man.
libby emmons
Yeah, no, it was a really sad situation.
Here, let me...
unidentified
Pull up the... Here, wait a second.
phil labonte
This guy didn't really have... Did he have coherent politics?
Or was he just kind of... Well, he was a leftist, so no.
libby emmons
But this is one thing he said.
He said, he called out what he said is a sharp rise in apocalyptic messaging.
Climate change will kill us.
COVID will kill us all.
Vaccines will kill us all.
AI will kill us all.
No matter the bubbles we ascribe to, we're bombarded with existential crises with no solutions.
We've seen a surge in apocalyptic film literature and video games that tell us there is no way out of our poor circumstances but total societal breakdown.
Zombies tell us that the public is our enemy.
He said, this is a rotten farce.
For our entire lives, we have been flooded with media designed to slowly steer us into a world where the American dream was dead, where the public was fully divided against itself, where everybody believed we were powerless to do anything about our worsening circumstances.
It is also they can organize an unprecedented apocalyptic rug pull on the entire populace as they pivot to fascism, which is perhaps best understood as kleptocracy at the barrel of a gun.
When we piece it all together, we understand the truth.
We are in a totalitarian doomsday cult.
tim pool
I think that was just him.
You know.
phil labonte
Mr. Riffin?
tim pool
No, in the Doomsday Cult.
phil labonte
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
The attitude that he had, the way he viewed the world.
Meanwhile, you've got a lot of optimism and people who are fighting every day.
Every generation has its challenge, whatever it may be.
What I think is particularly funny about our generation's challenge, it's that it is the excesses of the previous generations.
So it's like all of the good that came from the previous generations resulted in problems for our generation.
The good resulted, what I mean to say is, a lot of great things resulted in people who were entitled, lazy, and didn't have anything to fight for and became purposeless, and now we have leaders who don't care.
We have aging leaders who are on the verge of dying, and I don't mean that to be mean or crass, but I'm sorry, man.
You look at Joe Biden.
His eyes are barely open.
He's doing Cornholio hands.
phil labonte
And I'm like, dude, and to your point, like, even if you're talking about the the aging leaders that are that have their, you know, their ass together, like, you know, we talked about Dennis Krasenich, he rocks!
Krasenich here, 77 or whatever, and he, you know, has his stuff together, but he's still old, and that means that he's got a perspective that someone that's 77 is gonna have.
Same thing with Donald Trump, same thing with when Joe Biden is coherent, he's 80 or whatever, like, these people have a perspective that is different and doesn't see the problems that young people see today.
tim pool
Do you guys remember that viral video where it's the children talking about the economy and war and they sound like adults?
It's because back in the day before institutionalized learning facilities, children were imitating adults.
And so they didn't know as much, they weren't as wise, but they were inheriting these behaviors.
We've infantilized Like, every generation is infantilized to the next, to the point where I think the main reason why we don't see more millennial leadership is that millennials, in their mind, have a mental block where, well, only they can be the leaders.
I was talking to this pro skateboarder who's, you know, in his 50s.
And he's like, I'm an old man now.
And I'm like, dude, you're as old as you've always been to me.
When I was 10 or 13 watching your videos and you were 30, like you were an old man.
And now I'm 30.
You're the same dude you've always been.
And he had a good laugh about it.
And I'm like, but think about that.
That means that today you've got these millennials who should be filing to run for office.
But they still look to the Bernie Sanders, to the Dennis Kucinich, to the Ron Paul, to the Joe Biden, to the Donald Trump, and they're like, no, no, they're the ones who are always in charge, not us.
unidentified
Right, and I got a lot of pushback against this in my race, so running for U.S.
Congress, I'm 30 years old, right, and I'd have a lot of people question me and ask me, How can somebody who doesn't have any life experience be running for U.S.
Congress when you're 30 years old?
Most of our founding fathers, whenever they were signing the Declaration of Independence, were in their 20s or 30s.
20s or 30s. I mean these were young guys who were putting their lives... Hamilton was a young guy. Exactly.
libby emmons
I know, was he? Hamilton? He was like 18 when he started.
When he was like stealing cannons.
tim pool
They're like, you have no life experience.
Like, I am a 30 year old man.
Like, I don't, I don't know what, like 30!
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
And I'm old!
phil labonte
I mean, you look at, you look at John Adams' son, John Quincy.
He was sent away, you know, when he was like 13 or whatever, sent over to Europe to learn to be an apprentice and that kind of stuff.
That happened regularly.
You know, if you didn't, you may go to college, but you would go and be sent off to learn some kind of trade.
libby emmons
He went to Harvard too.
But he had a, John Adams had another, had a son who was a horrible alcoholic and left his wife and went to ruin and died and a whole mess.
Yeah.
I mean, a lot of these problems stay with us forever.
unidentified
Sure, sure.
phil labonte
I mean, they're human problems.
libby emmons
It's true what you're talking about with millennials and people not wanting to take responsibility.
I think a lot of that with the millennial generation was this was the first generation that was really
over mental healthified.
They were encouraged to constantly examine their own feelings.
And that puts you in an infantilized state, because that's what little kids do.
Little kids think about how they're feeling and try and understand their experience and gauge
what's going on with the world compared to how they feel.
And millennials just ended up trapped in that cycle well into their 30s.
They still talk about that.
You'll talk to the millennials in my family, for example, and they'll just be openly telling you
about their mental health issues.
And it's like, really, but how about getting a job and having kids?
tim pool
It's not just that Millennials have a mental block.
It's that the attitude that created Millennials as permanent children is the same attitude that will not vote for a Millennial.
It's that you get someone who's in their 30s and they're like, I'm 37.
I have four children and I own my own business and I'm successful.
And they're like, you're so young.
I won't vote for you.
It's the, it's the craziest thing to me.
It really is.
When I I'll meet someone who's in their fifties and they'll go, ha, you're still a young man.
I'm like, I'm 38.
Okay?
I am, like, 39 is the beginning of middle age.
I'm not a young man.
I am just a regular man.
I'm not an old man.
I'm a man.
But I get it.
The old guys laugh and say, I wish I was 38 and young like you.
And it's like, no, I get it.
But young is 20.
And at 20, you're still an adult, two years into adulthood and signing contracts.
We can't keep maintaining this idea that 30-year-olds are young.
But what happens is, even if a millennial runs for office, the 50-year-olds are going to be like, he's too young, he doesn't know what he's talking about, I'm going to vote for the old guy.
And then young people are like, yeah, only old people are in office.
And then what do we get?
Everybody in office is super old.
unidentified
Right.
Everybody in office is super old and we forget that a lot of the reasons that our country is in such a terrible position right now is that we've had the same people in office who oftentimes whenever they got elected were in their 30s.
It's just that now they've been there for 30 or 20 years.
They're in their 50s or 60s.
But we've had the same people doing the same things for decades now, and now we're starting to really, really live with the consequences, whether it's a massive deficit or whether it's a foreign policy that's still living as if the Cold War is still alive, or as if the United States is so clearly in a position where we can just dump unlimited amounts of money all over the globe or all over our own country.
Which we're certainly not.
But we have people who have been in office for so long who are still living as if the United States is where it was 50 years ago.
And that's a huge problem.
And we're the ones who have to deal with the consequences.
libby emmons
Joe Biden was 30 when he was sworn into office in 1972.
tim pool
And he was considered young when he did.
libby emmons
Yeah.
Joe Biden was 30 and he's still in a leadership position.
unidentified
Wow.
libby emmons
That's ridiculous.
tim pool
And it's funny because, like, there are still people who are young and vote for him thinking, well, you know, he's the one with experience.
It's like, no, no, no, no, look.
I'm not going to bring a 60-year-old football MVP who's the greatest player of all time and he's 60.
Okay, well, he can't play anymore.
I'm sorry.
But Joe Biden, for some reason, gets a pass.
The dude can't keep his eyes open.
He told Israel not to attack itself, which to be fair was good advice, but it's not the advice he meant to give.
And he's muttered gibberish over and over again to the point where I'm shocked because people clap for it when he does.
So I guess that says a lot more about our population than just Joe Biden.
unidentified
But that's the problem is that experience on its own doesn't really mean anything.
It's like experience of what?
What have you actually done that's good?
libby emmons
That's a really good point, especially when you consider how much of DEI is about like, you know, well, the lived experience of this person based on the total sum of their skin color is enough to give them a position to, you know, whatever, manage the health of millennials, the mental health of millennials, or whatever it is.
But that's what a lot of that is about.
It's about your experience.
unidentified
Right.
I mean, it's like President Trump went into office having no political experience prior to that at all, and I think has been clearly the greatest president in modern history.
Biden, on the other hand, has been in government, to your point, since he was 30 years old and has run this country into the ground in just a mere three years.
libby emmons
Yeah.
Never mind all the harm he did prior to that.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
Yeah.
phil labonte
I mean, I mean, I don't have any problem dunking on Joe Biden.
In fact, I took some some pointless dunks today myself.
But at the same time, he has done nothing to fix that, help fix the country or make the country better.
But a lot of the stuff that we've got going on, save for the stuff that at the border, because that, I think, directly relates to him pulling back.
President Trump's executive orders. Otherwise most of the problems that that
he came he or he's got they were kind of baked in for the past decade or so
maybe even more because the the problems that we're seeing when it comes to
legislation and stuff they're because of the attitude that that a lot of people
have nowadays.
And I think that that that comes from, you know, we talk about politics being downstream from culture.
I don't think that I think Joe Biden is as much a symptom of where the left is as Donald Trump is a symptom of where the right is.
unidentified
So.
tim pool
Well, let's jump to this next story from the Postmillennial.
Former J6 committee chair moves to strip secret service protection from anyone sentenced to more than one year in prison.
Okay.
I'm sorry.
Like, look, there's already these conspiracies popping up all over the place that they're going to try and take the life of Donald Trump.
You criminally charge the guy in a bunch of different ways, and then while he's in trial with a bunch of seemingly biased jerks, you go, and also, you will lose your Secret Service protection.
I'm like, come on, man!
Did you guys see what Andrew Schultz was saying?
libby emmons
No.
tim pool
He said, we've been getting this wave after wave after wave of Boeing planes being unsafe and then crashing and crashing.
Well, guess who owns a Boeing plane?
libby emmons
Trump owns a Boeing plane?
tim pool
Trump owns a Boeing plane.
unidentified
And then everyone on his show is like, ooooh.
tim pool
Yeah, a lot of the concerns of the Boeing planes has more to do with maintenance and the current staffing at these companies and not Boeing.
So it's a funny point to make, but look, if the argument is they can't stop Trump, the Trump train's unstoppable, you see someone, why would you, what is this?
Well, they want to put Trump in prison and then take away his secret service detail.
And then all of a sudden the cameras break, the guards fall asleep, and then Trump lunges off the top of his bunk bed or something, if you get my drift.
libby emmons
Right.
Yeah, that's sort of the that does sort of appear to be the goal.
You also have Hunter Biden facing federal gun charges.
I think his trial is coming up in June.
And there could be jail time with that as well.
And Hunter Biden's secret service detail when Biden was living in We were talking about this before the show.
It was either Malibu or Santa Monica or something like that.
phil labonte
California.
libby emmons
It was definitely California.
But his Secret Service details spent $4.5 million in 2021 just tracking him around, living in a fancy place nearby.
But yeah, Trump and Hunter Biden would be the ones to suffer under this.
tim pool
They would make an exception for Hunter.
libby emmons
You think so?
And Benny Thompson is deranged.
I mean, he was the chair of the J6 committee and he hid evidence.
He did all kinds of ridiculous things.
unidentified
And I mean, I think that stuff like this, there's already been so much talk about how much the left is going after President Trump.
They're doing everything they can in the legal system.
They're trying to tear his reputation down, tear his family apart.
They're going after him with everything that they have.
The last thing that they have Is to try and take him out.
And all this does is get conservatives rightfully worked up over the prospect of the left coming after President Trump much more severely than they have in the past.
And I think that the left sees this and it's just like kind of poking the bear.
And they know that they can get away with it and they just want to antagonize our side.
I mean, at some point, all this is, you know, whether it gets passed or not, you know, a lot of this is just to antagonize the Republican base.
phil labonte
Well I mean that that goes kind of without saying like the the target of your action is your actual target or the your your target's reaction is the action like that's the point is to get people to do things that either make themselves look ridiculous like You get a mascot to do something that is just borderline breaking the law, or pushes on someone, so that way you can get pictures of the cops arresting a guy in a chicken outfit.
It looks ridiculous, makes the cops look bad.
tim pool
A better example is at Occupy Wall Street, they would strike a cop, and then as soon as the cop fought back, they'd start filming, and then they'd say, police beat innocent protesters.
So you'd have these protesters, they'd plan this, they'd run up, they'd hit a cop, and then immediately go, No, please!
please and the cops are hitting them and then the video footage shows cops beating someone crying and begging but
right that's the point there was one famous video where they uh the cop is swinging his baton and they made it a
lightsaber so it's one woman he's hitting everybody and then they were like the the point was ha ha this cop
was beating people we made a joke out of it to make fun of him
The real video was, several people walk up to the police barricade where the cop is, and they start rattling the barricades, the cop tells them to stop, and then someone flips the cop's hat off, and shoves him, and then he starts pushing them back as they're shoving him, then as soon as he swings, that's where the edit begins, to trick people into thinking the cops were attacking them.
phil labonte
That's the game.
I mean, this is what we mean when we talk about things that are fifth generation warfare.
It's a war of narrative and a war of what you can get people to believe, because if you can get people to believe the things that are happening that are not happening, you end up with Well George Floyd essentially.
The media had told a narrative that police were killing black men in America to a level where there are people that you can interview on the street and they will say that they believe thousands of black men are killed every year by police, which is You know, it's patently not true.
The average was like 13 or 14 that were actually, you know, unarmed, that were killed by police in a country of 330 million people.
But yet because of that narrative, you have the whole BLM movement,
you have all of the civil unrest that we've had, all of the riots, all of that stuff,
because the general public was of the opinion that thousands of black men per year,
which once you start actually dissecting the idea, it becomes ridiculous.
It gets to the point where it's like, oh, wait a minute, that's kind of crazy,
because we would notice that kind of death toll in society.
And, but when you are just hear it as an emotional wedge or whatever, people say, oh my God, that's terrible,
because we don't want to be a society that does that.
The gut instinct is, that's awful, we don't want that.
And so it plays on people's emotions and you get a decade, literally a decade, of civil unrest and a less harmonious country because of a lie pushed by the media and people with a political bent.
And it's literally gotten it's made it's made America worse.
libby emmons
Like the trans genocide, which is also a lie.
phil labonte
Yeah, that is.
That's probably not as it probably it probably doesn't have as deep and and consequential.
libby emmons
Not yet.
phil labonte
Not yet, but it could very well because, you know, who knows how many people are going to have horrible, horrible things going on in their life.
tim pool
And they, you know, it's the strategy, I think it's Alinsky, accuse your enemies of what you're doing.
phil labonte
Yep.
tim pool
So you get the media that comes out and they accuse the people who are telling the truth of being the liars and keep the cult functioning.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean we've got two people that because of the left-leaning narratives and the essentially wrong things that the left pushes, we've got people that are killing themselves by setting themselves on fire now, you know?
It's disgusting.
tim pool
This is why I say that when it comes to like abortion and sterilization and things like this, it just hits the left.
The end result is going to be a conservative future.
libby emmons
Maybe so.
tim pool
There's no other mathematical path forward.
People argue that they're indoctrinating kids, but it's just like, guys, if the left ain't having kids at all, indoctrination is meaningless.
libby emmons
Well, you have to, you have to, if you can't, if you're not having children to reproduce for your ideological side, you have to go indoctrinate them.
tim pool
But that doesn't, but that's substantially less effective than literally having kids.
libby emmons
Well, for sure.
Yeah, I'm just saying, that is the... Give it 40 years!
tim pool
I was thinking this too.
I said this on Twitter, that support for Israel is over.
You think?
100%.
And of course, the conservatives who are staunchly pro-Israel reject this idea, but they're wrong.
And I'll tell you why.
You have on the right right now with Donald Trump's faction, you have the people who support Israel and the anti-interventionists.
Trump's base is largely anti-intervention.
We don't care about other countries, we don't want to fund these other countries, we want to secure our borders, bring our jobs back.
They say we want to give funding to Israel, and people are like, no funding for Israel until we secure our borders!
It's not that they hate Israel, It's that they're like, why are we spending money there?
How about we secure our borders, we stop the crime, we get our jobs back, then we can fund other things.
Then on the left you have, they just all hate Israel.
libby emmons
Yeah, did you see Ilhan Omar's daughter got arrested at Columbia?
tim pool
So this is the younger generation.
In 20 to 40 years, this sentiment's not going away, it's going to be the dominant sentiment.
You're going to get a bunch of Republicans who are like, we don't want to fund foreign wars, we want to secure this country.
The left is then going to say, we don't care why you're defunding Israel, we hate Israel, so we'll agree with you.
And then funding is cut from Israel.
I don't see how that survives in 20 years now.
I bring that up not to get into an Israel conversation, but to point out, this extends to literally everything.
What the millennial generation and Gen Z value in 20 years will be it.
So what you're seeing now with Trump is not going away, it's expanding.
The deep state, the establishment can say, we're going to lock Trump up, take away his protections, and all that means is in 20 years there'll be 10 more Trumps.
Because young people hold these views, and that's it.
phil labonte
And you know something that Bannon said, or has said multiple times, is Trump is actually a moderate.
Because if you look at the positions that Trump holds, all of his positions are acceptable Democrat party positions in 2005.
Oh, for sure.
unidentified
2003.
libby emmons
He's basically a moderate.
phil labonte
Yeah.
And because of how far the left has pulled the country and pulled the national kind of zeitgeist, Um, they've managed to characterize him as, as far right, but that's only because of how far left they've managed to pull the, the, you know, the opinions of the average normie or whatever.
Go ahead.
unidentified
No, and I was going to say, and I think that that's the thing with, with, Foreign intervention, I mean for years we've lived under a uniparty in the United States that has advocated basically getting involved in every single foreign conflict on every single corner of the globe since the fall of the Soviet Union in 1989 and we've had this view that we have unlimited resources, we have unlimited potential all over the world and there's no drawbacks to
to getting involved.
And over time, whenever we invade Iraq, for example, find out that there were not weapons of mass destruction and we get involved in a 20 plus year long war with no concept of what victory looks like and no path to peace until we have a humiliating withdrawal eventually from Afghanistan, eventually the next generation says, well, I'm going to be a lot more skeptical of getting involved in any foreign conflicts, whether these are just or not.
And what we're seeing right now, I think, is that the left or the Uniparty has conflated Ukraine funding and Israel funding.
So there's a large contingent, even on the political right, who would be more normally accustomed or more comfortable giving funding to Israel.
Who, because we've been dumping money in Ukraine for so long without having any pay for, is getting really, really skeptical.
And I think that it's the Uniparty who is so invested in conflict all over the globe, including in Israel, that's going to end up shooting themselves in the foot with this.
libby emmons
Well, what happens if we don't fund Ukraine and we don't fund Israel?
What are the downsides?
unidentified
Well, that's the question that very few people in the Uniparty can give a clear and articulate answer.
I think that there's a much more compelling answer, for sure, in Israel, where the United States does clearly have some geopolitical interest in making sure that Iran isn't nuclear armed.
But in Ukraine, I think that's a much more difficult case to make.
I've never seen anybody make a compelling case for why we should be spending billions of dollars in Ukraine other than some half-baked comparison to Putin being Hitler, that it relies on a very shallow understanding of World War II and of history.
I've never seen anybody make a good case.
libby emmons
Yeah, I actually went to a debate on this because I was interested and I was like, okay, you know, I don't know that much about the arguments on either side.
I know sort of how I feel about it, but that's, I mean, feelings are irrelevant, right?
So I went to listen to it at the Council on Foreign Relations in New York, I guess a couple of weeks ago or whenever it was.
And you had people on both sides.
You had John Mearsheimer on one side with Daniel Davis and on the other side you had Paula Dobriansky and Heather Conley talking about why we should fund the war in Ukraine.
And Mearsheimer and Davis were both like, we can't win and nothing we do can make us win.
So what we should do is negotiate for diplomacy and for Ukraine to be a neutral territory and Ukraine should not join NATO.
And that will sort of smooth things out and lead to peace in that region.
And then on the other side, you had Dobryansky and Conley saying, you know, if these guys want to die for their freedom, then we should let them do it and we should fund it.
And that funding is good for essentially the American economy because we're paying ourselves to build weapons that we then give them.
Right.
And also they were saying, you know, that if we don't fund Ukraine, then Putin sweeps into Europe entirely.
And it was like, That doesn't seem like a good reason.
unidentified
I think fund war because it's good for the economy sounds like a pretty depraved excuse for people slaughtering each other.
tim pool
But I think maybe the mistake we make is that we don't use that same tactic.
So I'm going to revise my tactic.
So from now on, guys, Antifa and these leftists need to be criminally prosecuted.
Because if Antifa is not prosecuted, they're going to storm into Illinois and start killing random people.
They will take over Illinois.
So that means if we don't arrest them now in Minnesota for their autonomous zone, next thing we know, they're going to take all of Illinois.
libby emmons
Or Atlanta.
tim pool
Yeah.
libby emmons
They're already trying to take over in Atlanta anyway.
tim pool
Well, they were doing that, and so we have to stop them in Atlanta.
Otherwise, they'll take Florida.
libby emmons
They'll take Florida next.
unidentified
Oh no.
tim pool
We better be hyperbolic and claim that our enemies are going to be a hundred times worse than what they're actually doing.
People will believe it, I guess.
libby emmons
More than what they're capable of.
unidentified
Yeah.
libby emmons
You know?
So yeah, it was pretty interesting.
I guess they're gonna have a vote on that.
I guess the funding bill got to the floor and they're gonna vote on it.
tim pool
Look, if anybody would be willing to make a bet with me, if it was like a sports betting app
and I was allowed to make any odds wager like that the funding will happen,
they could say like a $100 bet wins you 10 cents.
I'm taking that bet.
I'll be like, oh, I get a free dime, huh?
Mm-hmm.
Free money?
You think they're gonna not fund Ukraine and Israel?
And there's some- Taiwan.
Taiwan, right, right, right.
libby emmons
That's the other one.
tim pool
Yeah, that funding's happening no matter what you think.
unidentified
Yeah, it's happening.
tim pool
So if they came in and said, $100 bet wins you one cent, I'd be like, okay, so how much money do I gotta put in to make 100 bucks?
Because it's a safe bet.
It's happening.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
tim pool
And nothing anyone's gonna do about it.
You can protest, you can cry, you can whinge.
unidentified
And it doesn't matter which party's in charge either.
Doesn't matter when.
tim pool
I love this.
Mike Johnson's like, you know, I was a populist guy and I realized the government was wasting our money and then the deep state brought me in the back room and beat me over the head and told me do it or else and now I agree!
We should absolutely be funding all of these wars.
I love when he's like, I encourage all the other members to see the classified briefings.
And I'm just imagining they bring him into a back room and then strap him down and then
pull a slug out of a vat and they put it in his ear and he's like, ah, and it goes into
his brain and he's like, all right, let us begin the operation.
And I'm like, that's just really what it is.
I know what they're really doing is they just hand up, they go, Speaker Johnson, we'd like to give you the classified briefing so you can really understand what's going on.
And he's like, yeah, that sounds reasonable.
They walk, he's like, right this way, they open a door, he walks inside, they close it, he's in a janitor's closet, and they're like, what's going on?
And then he just hands them an envelope and he opens it, it's a picture of JFK.
And then he's like, message received loud and clear.
And then he walks out of the closet and he's like, we must fund Ukraine and Israel and Taiwan.
libby emmons
What do you think's in those JFK things that they won't release?
And Trump is like, I'm not releasing that either.
unidentified
Well, I mean, it's the same thing with the FISA vote, right?
Congress basically voted to suspend the Constitution and allow FISA to surveil American citizens without a warrant is allowing the federal government to buy data from big tech companies to monitor American citizens.
You would think that if we're going to go that far beyond the Constitution, there's going to be some clear and compelling reason why we're doing it.
I don't think they should be doing it at all.
libby emmons
Same.
unidentified
But I'm just saying if they're going to do it, you'd think that there'd be a really good reason, and yet all I've heard is that there's some National security rationale that's out there in the ether that every deep state politician keeps alluding to, while at the same time doing absolutely nothing to secure the southern border, which is being overrun by an invasion from hostile foreigners.
I mean, the idea that we're doing this for national security purposes is so asinine, it's insulting.
tim pool
The brain slug theory makes me feel better because then the thing about conspiracy theories is that you absolve yourself of responsibility.
Like, oh, the aliens have taken over.
I can't.
No, the reality is we have, as American citizens, are not being attacked by an alien mind control brain slug.
We are being controlled by an institution of corrupt intelligence agents that are addicted to the machine they've built.
And we have to hope and pray that we can start flipping this machine off.
And that means we need more America First patriot members of Congress, starting with Donald Trump.
And Donald Trump's a moderate.
He's just a reaction.
20 years from now, it's going to be wild.
They think these leftists are saying, like, oh, he's a fascist or whatever.
Dude, get out of here.
Trump's a moderate.
Yeah.
I think Bannon was saying something like that.
You think Trump is bad, give it 10, 20 years.
unidentified
I mean, they come after you if you stand against the deep state.
I mean, I'm the Republican nominee right now.
I'm not in office.
But last fall, I was the executive producer of a movie called Police State.
And the premise of Police State is the FBI.
Yeah, if I can say so myself, it was a good movie, and it's about how the FBI has been weaponized against conservatives and Christians, and I would tweet out things like, defund the FBI, and I sincerely think that we should.
I think that's a long overdue reform that we passed up, and whenever I got into my race, we had 11 people that I was running against.
And I think that the D.C.
Swamp had seen that, and a lot of the moderate Republicans who tend to be more aligned with what we might call the deep state or the establishment, spent over $2 million in my race against me in attack ads in the last two weeks of the race trying to take me out, and part of it was based on those tweets.
In fact, they referenced those in the attack ad, so they took that and they contorted it and ran all kinds of TV commercials on broadcast and cable, were texting people, putting stuff on the radio saying that I wanted to defund the police and open our borders, and they were getting it from the defund the FBI stuff.
So my point is, and remember, this is in a Republican primary, prior to a runoff.
In Texas, if you don't get over 50% of the vote, the top two contenders go to a runoff.
11 people in the race, prior to a runoff, they spent $2 million against me.
Not against anybody else, just against me.
Wow.
Not in favor of anybody else either.
Right.
libby emmons
Oh, just against you.
unidentified
But just against me.
In slanderous attack, it's based on this kind of stuff.
But that's the kind of Fire and fury that will come after you if you stand up against this stuff and I can only imagine what our patriot elected officials are going through now who are voting against some of this FISA stuff.
libby emmons
Oh interesting.
tim pool
Let's jump to this next story from ABC News.
Biden expands Title IX protections for pregnancy, trans people, and sexual assault victims.
Oh, that sounds so lovely.
Part of this is that it basically strips sex-based protections, and now sex and gender identity are effectively interchangeable.
It mandates pronouns, I hear.
What else?
unidentified
What else?
tim pool
Have you been reading into this?
libby emmons
Yeah, this is something I was digging into this morning, actually, and I was writing about it.
The new Title IX rules also roll back due process protections for people who are accused on college campuses.
Primarily, this has been men who have been accused on college campuses of, you know, all manner of horrible things.
And under Donald, you know, remember Me Too?
tim pool
Yes, but while it may do that, there is a counteraction, and that is, if any of these men accused just identify as women, it all goes away.
libby emmons
Yes, so basically this bill says believe all men who say they are women and believe all women who accuse men.
That's basically like the premise.
tim pool
So you're basically saying this guy's gonna be like, I get it, fine, I'm a woman, I don't know, whatever.
libby emmons
Right.
phil labonte
It's gonna mean that a lot of men, or a lot more men, are gonna be disincentivized from going to college and stuff.
libby emmons
Disincentivized from going to college, disincentivized from asking a woman out, perhaps, you know?
unidentified
From interacting with women in any way.
libby emmons
Yeah, and so you're going to have women who are incentivized to falsely accuse because they're going to be able to get away with it.
So any woman who is spurned or who perhaps, you know, doesn't like a guy can accuse him.
tim pool
Maybe, but if that guy, sensing that something is off, he could just identify as a woman and then accuse her first.
libby emmons
Yes, that is definitely true.
tim pool
This happened. Remember? Remember this story where the guy accused the woman first?
Like something happened where a guy and a girl hooked up and then she was saying things. So
then he immediately he ran to the title. He ran to the title nine office. I think it wasn't like
that. And then he said, I was assaulted by her. And then they were like, OK, he said so. And so
libby emmons
then they started going after. And then they had to do an investigation. And then, you know,
she's not allowed to face her accuser at this point.
That's the rule now.
You don't have to universities don't have to permit you to face your accuser.
You don't have to have a hearing you can have everything on the side and in the background.
I am a huge proponent of due process rights.
I think it's hugely important part of our Constitution and I hate seeing these rollbacks.
We've seen them.
You know, across the Me Too movement, we've seen these rollbacks for due process, right?
So we saw it in Donald Trump's civil case with E. Jean Carroll and stupid Letitia James.
We saw it there, too.
Like, no due process.
Trump wasn't even able to defend himself in the civil case with Letitia James.
In the E. Jean Carroll case, she was able to bring an allegation two decades after the supposed incident.
unidentified
Three!
libby emmons
Yeah, three.
And if you recall, she cannot tell you when this apparently occurred.
tim pool
And and also the dress she was wearing didn't exist on the time she happened.
libby emmons
She changed her story after it was revealed that the dress that the decade that Donna Karan dress she was wearing didn't come out until you know the spring of whatever.
So yeah, so I hate this.
And yeah, this also has an expansion of rights for people who are trans by just conflating gender
identity and biological sex. So all of the protections that were there,
sex segregated protections for women, are now available to men who say
they are women. So you're in favor of segregation Libby? Yeah I'm in favor of
segregation based on biological sex to protect women.
tim pool
All right, agreed.
unidentified
But isn't that the point for what they're doing?
It's like there is no due process for a guy that's getting accused and you're being... The accusation is enough.
The accusation is enough and these are cases that are being adjudicated by woke leftist colleges.
I mean, can you imagine?
Whenever they're going through all of this behind closed doors, what else they're looking at?
Like your social media posts that you've said, like your political opinions you've had in political science class, how much is gonna go into these decisions?
tim pool
It's actually really simple.
If you are a college student and your family donates to the cult, you're fine.
That's it.
These panels are gonna be like, no, we think he's good.
Look at these women who are posting on X, where they're like, don't listen to these women who claim they were raped on October 7th.
These are white women attacking people of color.
And it's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait.
It's believe all women, unless they're Israeli.
It's because their ideology is actually just, do we get power from it or no?
So if a woman accuses a man and then they go, oh, wow, a man assaulted you, bring him in.
They go, it was him.
They're gonna go, wait, that guy over there?
Well, he's one of our biggest donors.
You must be mistaken, get out.
You're a fascist, you're a white supremacist, you're a white woman trying to attack a poor person of color.
And they're gonna be like, he's white, he's Polish.
Slavic people are people of color.
libby emmons
That's the rule?
tim pool
Yes, it is.
unidentified
Yep.
phil labonte
Not white.
tim pool
Yep, they are not white.
libby emmons
Interesting.
tim pool
And they'll be like, well, he's part Polish.
They will make up whatever reason to defend their power structure.
libby emmons
Yes, that's accurate.
That is accurate.
Like we even saw that with the left's refusal to get behind women who in the Muslim world who were fighting against Sharia laws and all of the restrictions and the clothing restrictions.
And the left didn't get behind them.
They instead said things like, well, that's just their culture.
Why?
Because it doesn't help you to get behind a bunch of poor Muslim women who don't want to have their faces covered in public.
That just doesn't help you.
And these are the same people who are now basically like in favor of Iran, even though Iran was doing horrible things to women over the past few years.
unidentified
I think there's something about the left's ideology that flourishes on stripping away at the dignity of individuals.
So whether it's like these guys who are getting accused of sexual assault and have no ability to actually defend themselves, or if it's the little girls who have to change in a locker room or take showers with biological men.
I mean, that strikes at the core of what is right and just and what it means to be a dignified man or woman.
libby emmons
Well, that's communism, right?
It's destroy the individual.
unidentified
Yes, that's communism.
I mean, that's COVID lockdowns, too.
That's whenever the government steps in and says, you're no more than an economic unit, and we're going to decide whether you are either Needed or you're not, and if you're not needed, you need to stay at your house.
You don't get to go out to dinner with your wife or with your girlfriend.
You don't get to go on dates.
You don't get to do anything.
You don't get to have a part in civil society because you're no more than what we tell you you are.
tim pool
Here's the issue, though.
You take ten women, line them all up, and you ask them, biological males and allowed in female spaces, yes or no?
Seven will say yes.
Allowed.
Let me clarify, 10 millennial women, or younger, and that's what you get.
Older generations, not so much, but think about what that means moving forward.
This is not going to go away, it's going to expand and exacerbate.
At least among female voting patterns.
The 70% of millennial women who are voting for all of these leftist issues are not going to change those views.
Those are ingrained and they're in their 30s.
They're going to be in their 40s, 50s, 60s.
And the younger generations are who we need to be teaching.
Now it is fair to say these people don't have kids.
So I imagine what'll happen is there'll be a normalization period where
when you have the millennial generation and the Gen Z of comparable size,
and then Gen Alpha is slightly smaller and the next generation is slightly smaller,
there's going to be effectively the liberal, the millennial females voting for these things
will have a disproportional amount of power generationally because the younger generations are less.
Whereas normally, the older generation starts to lose power because younger generations' worldview outvotes them once they get into the 30s and 40s.
We are already seeing it with 70 and 80-year-olds who are basically running the show.
Same thing's going to happen as generations get smaller.
The older people will have a disproportionate amount of power until they eventually age out, as I would call it.
But this means, again, 70% of millennial women vote Democrat.
You go to someone and say, males, trans or otherwise, in female spaces, and 70% of the women you ask, they're going to say, yeah, it should be allowed.
And if that's the case, well, what's a guy to do, right?
I don't use women's bathrooms.
So I'm kind of like, whatever, I guess.
It's your bathroom, ladies.
And if 70% of your generation and younger are in favor of having dudes be allowed in there, that's democracy.
That's it.
You lose.
They've taken your space.
Then what?
It's women who want this stuff.
libby emmons
Well, it's women who are compliant and acquiescent.
tim pool
Yeah, but it's women voting for it.
libby emmons
No, I agree with you.
tim pool
So that's leading the charge.
libby emmons
Yeah, well, I don't think they started out leading the charge.
I think they've been duped.
tim pool
I think it's women.
libby emmons
It's certainly part of the feminist program, but I think they were duped into it.
I also think women were duped into abortion, to a certain extent, by trans-identifying males.
tim pool
Trans-identifying males...
Like, the ultimate idea is this.
It doesn't matter who convinced them to vote for it.
It is their choice.
libby emmons
Oh, for sure.
I agree with you.
tim pool
So you can equally argue that men could tell women, don't do this, but women choose to support one thing over the other, regardless of who's arguing for it.
So this is women's choice to allow biological males in their bathrooms.
libby emmons
Yes, women are choosing to do it.
tim pool
Right.
And then guys, at the same time, they're like, look man, women are like, you're a man, you don't have an opinion on abortion or whatever.
And it's like, sure, I also don't care about your bathrooms, let all the dudes in there.
And then they're fine with it.
It's like, okay.
Many women are upset.
And that's unfortunate, but the problem is, so long as women overwhelmingly want men to be in their spaces, it will happen.
And, like, I don't know what the answer to it is.
Enough liberal women and men vote for these things to enact these policies.
libby emmons
Yeah, it's pretty bizarre.
I don't understand how... I mean, I do understand how they got there with the feminist movement.
tim pool
I think this shows a large portion of women want men to be in charge.
libby emmons
I think that's probably true.
tim pool
These women who vote for men to be in their bathrooms, deep down, just want men to be in charge of them.
unidentified
Or is it an age thing?
Because it's like, if you're a slightly older woman, like you're not changing in locker rooms very often, or you're not like showering after athletics period in your high school or whatever, you don't actually have to deal with the negative consequences of that.
But you can be supportive of it, and then feel really good and warm inside about how you're pro-trans or whatever.
tim pool
Women love Dylan Mulvaney.
Women love drag.
Women love men.
I think conservatives need to recognize this.
Women overwhelmingly watch shows like RuPaul Drag Race.
They like watching men be better than them.
But it's not a joke.
They want to see men dress up in ways that they normally do and do it better.
phil labonte
You didn't intend for it to be a joke.
That doesn't mean that it's not a joke.
tim pool
The videos, there's videos on TikTok where it's a man putting on makeup while talking.
Like I find these videos to be insufferable.
It's like it's trend started by women where they're doing their makeup.
And I'm like, you know what I saw today?
Like guys started doing it and the guys channeled, who's that James Charles or whatever his name was.
Is that what it was?
Yeah, there was a- The guys get bigger.
Women would rather watch a guy put on makeup.
Women would rather watch a man do burlesque.
Women would rather men be in their sports teams and win.
Women want men to be in charge, not all women, but these women keep voting for it because they love when men do things better than them.
A biological male was woman of the year several years ago.
Women love it!
70% of millennial women, yes of course, 70% of millennial women and large, I don't know if the number translates down to Gen Z and younger, but younger women absolutely love when men are better than them.
unidentified
Will they whenever it really strikes at the core of their dignity though?
Like whenever they're told that you're in high school and you've got to shower with some dude who wants to put on a dress and say that he should be on your sports team?
You think that they're going to tolerate that?
tim pool
Yes, because they do.
They already do.
See, I think this is like conservative worldview bias, where it's like conservatives can't imagine because the women they know are like, I don't want men in my room.
But no matter what happens, even when you had at the Wii Spa in San Francisco, it wasn't even a trans person.
It was literally a serial flasher.
The women, other women in the spa were like, leave him alone, he's, leave her alone, she's trans.
And they're like, the police go, actually this is a male, who's not trans, who has repeatedly done this, and you defended him anyway.
And they're like, well, we thought he was trans.
Like, millennial women just, they like it.
I mean, you look at sports.
They will come up with every excuse in the book why they want men to win women's sports.
So I think what happens is conservatives are with conservative women.
The conservative women are like, I do not want a male in my bathroom.
And they go, yeah, women don't want this.
And then 70% of women vote in favor of it.
And they're like, no, that must be something.
No, that's what women want.
libby emmons
There's also, though, a huge proportion of women, like some huge majority of women who don't believe that men should be playing in women's sports.
tim pool
Right, but that's the older generation for sure.
libby emmons
Yeah, for sure.
tim pool
And so my point is when it comes to our generation and younger, they're overwhelmingly in support of this.
And my point is simply, I wonder if something happened where men have backed off to the point where women have found a way to try and put men back in charge of their lives.
libby emmons
I think I think I think there are many women and I think women sort of as a whole do miss leaning on men to make decisions and to be a partner in a way where you know I mean somebody has to get the veto power right in a family or in a workplace like someone needs to have the final say even if you're partners.
phil labonte
Part of the phenomenon you see with it seems to me that you see with like the women that are feminists that are that have a kind of a Go get them kind of attitude.
Like they're going to be the ones that are like, I want to be out in the world doing this.
I want to be, you know, having an effect on the world and women that are like, I want to be at home and I want to be, you know, uh, a homemaker or whatever.
They're, they're like the people that are just like, I want to be left alone.
Whereas the people that are like, I want to be active in the world for myself and do this.
They're not like, I want to be left alone.
They're the ones that are saying, Oh, I want the law to cater to what my lifestyle and because I want the law to cater to my lifestyle and I'm an active kind of person, I'll go ahead and be like, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Whereas people that are just like, Oh, I want to be left alone.
They don't want to be.
out actively trying to get the government to do stuff because all they want is to be left alone.
So they're at a disadvantage, you know, in and of just in the fact of their temperaments, you know,
the people that are feminists that are like, we want to make sure the law caters to us,
they're going to be out there trying to get the law to cater to them. Whereas
the people that don't aren't going to be actively pursuing government solutions.
tim pool
Look at the end result of this headline stuff.
What's it going to be?
It's going to be teams comprised of biological males in the Olympics.
No women's sports.
There was a period where we didn't have women's sports.
And somebody was arguing on Twitter, like back in the day, conservatives actually opposed women's sports.
They're like, why would women need to do sports?
Women should be working on home ec and taking care of families.
Men do sports.
And it was the progressives who were like, if women want to play, we'll set up teams for them.
And now it's progressives being like, nah, we changed our minds.
Dudes should just, like, biological males should be the ones taking over.
I don't see why a country like... We saw this with the Soviet Union in the 90s, the women who were jacked up on steroids.
A country that wants to win the Olympics need only say, okay, we'll send in a team of males and then we'll, on average, just score higher and do better.
And they win.
That's good for their countries.
phil labonte
Maybe.
I mean, I don't see why not.
Or at some point, some country's gonna be like, alright, let's do this.
tim pool
North Korea for sure!
unidentified
The gambling's gonna be crazy.
tim pool
I mean, how do you even do it?
Look, this is the crazy thing about it.
Let me do this.
I want to mention the sports gambling, but let's jump to the story.
We have Riley Gaines.
Five middle school female athletes in West Virginia refused to throw shot put against male Becky Pepper Jackson.
This comes just two days after the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals blocked the West Virginia laws that says you must compete in the category that matches your sex.
Sad day when 13 to 14 year old girls have to be the adults in the room, but I couldn't be more inspired by and proud of these girls.
Enough is enough.
The tide is turning.
So basically in this video, you'd see the girls walk up, do nothing, and then walk out.
They don't throw the shot, but they refuse to participate.
This is what they should be doing, and I have tremendous respect for it.
Now, I'd like to mention where this goes, because Brandon, you mentioned sports betting.
This is going to be the moment where the image shatters, unquestionably.
When they start opening up DraftKings sports betting on a biological male fighting a biological female, and you're like, how come they're giving this fighter minus 1,000 odds?
No reason.
No reason.
It's like, hmm.
So if I bet $100, I win $1?
Yeah.
That's pretty crazy.
Why?
No reason.
Just, you know, a good fighter.
Yeah, it's gonna be pretty wild when you open up DraftKings.
And every single time there's a competition with a biological male competing on a woman's team, the odds are, the payouts are gonna be dirt.
You put a, like, cause if they, if the wild thing is under communism, they'd have to normalize the bets.
They'd have, they'd be like, no, no, you can't, you can't set the, like, no, no, no, it's 50-50.
There's two people and we're all equal and you can bet on who you want to win.
It's like, I'll bet on the male.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
I win?
unidentified
And then the left wing social pressure comes in and pressures people to place bets on the biological female and then we start seeing some normalization.
That would be really interesting.
Do they change as the media comes in?
Do betting odds change as the media comes in and attacks?
Yes.
tim pool
So what happens is betting odds are basically what people are betting on.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
So if they say, we've got two fighters.
Here they are.
And then everyone bets on Fighter B instead of Fighter A. Then you win nothing if Fighter B wins.
You win a dime if you're lucky.
But the person who bet on Fighter A wins massively.
The odds start shifting depending on how people are betting.
So that's how odds are calculated.
Horse races are easier for me.
I'm not big on sports betting outside of this, but the horse racing is obvious.
Because they show you the total prize pool, and then you can see how many people bet on which horse, and the more you bet on one horse, the less you're likely to win, because all the prize pool is in one area.
It's not like these guys are actually paying you, it's all from the prize pool.
So what's going to happen is, the narrative will be broken.
You're gonna like, okay we got a boxing match, and...
If I bet on the female, you'll get value bets out of it.
So people would make the bet.
It's like a $1 bet wins you 10 grand.
It's like, oh man, I could buy a soda.
Why would I give my dollar away?
libby emmons
Yeah, you'd give your dollar away.
That would be what it would be.
tim pool
But it would be a value bet.
A dollar bet for a chance to win 10 grand, a lot of people would take.
Like, why not?
Maybe the male has a heart attack or something.
Who knows?
unidentified
I don't know.
How many people would do it morally, do you think?
Because they're looking at it and they're saying that I've been saying for a very, very long time that there's no difference between men and women.
You don't think anybody would?
tim pool
They're lying.
Yeah, absolutely.
They're going to be like, why would I give my money away?
I've heard you say it on Twitter.
I don't need to say anything about this.
Now, what would be funny is if someone on the left launched a campaign saying, let's all wager for our friend to win, but the problem is they'd wager for the trans person.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
The moral support will be like, no, we're going to support our trans friend.
libby emmons
Yeah, that would be the virtuous position.
tim pool
Exactly.
libby emmons
Throw the woman under the bus.
I think it's been a long time coming that women should not be participating when they are faced with a male competitor in these situations.
The women who had to swim against Leah Thomas, I think they were a little gobsmacked by that and they went along with it.
They should have backed out and said, They should have backed out and said no.
I think that that's true in every single one of these cycling races where you have, you know, the trans competitors coming in and besting the women in all these cases.
That's true in the track races in Connecticut.
It's true in the, you know, when people have been running against C.C.
Telford, the NCAA, all of these situations, the right thing to do is to back out.
Now, women look at this, however, and they're like, hey, you know, I've been working my Whole childhood, I've been swimming in all of these meets.
I've given up so much.
I don't want to have to give up more, you know?
And it is wrong that the championships and the scholarships, the awards, the accolades, even the fifth-place trophies were taken away.
But the only way to do this is a total, complete boycott.
On the other hand, what we'd find with a total, complete boycott is that people aren't really that interested in women's sports.
So that's a thing, too.
tim pool
I think women voted for this.
libby emmons
Yeah, women definitely voted for that.
tim pool
I'm very proud of them.
libby emmons
Proud of them for voting away their rights.
tim pool
It's not men voting for this.
If you look at the voting maps, if you removed every woman voter from the voting pool, the country is 98% red.
It's not that men are 98% Republican, it's that men are like 55-60% Republican.
So they win every district except for like Oregon and Washington.
And then if you get rid of all the male voters, then the entire country turns blue.
libby emmons
Well, along with these Title IX changes, one thing that Biden administration did not include were rules on trans participation in sports.
They're still working on that.
And they proposed a second rule.
And the second rule would prohibit these kinds of blanket bans like West Virginia has that the ACL is targeting and the ACL is targeting in states around the country.
The ACL? The ACLU. Oh, okay. Yeah, sorry. So the ACLU has been targeting all of these things,
targeting states that reject puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones for minors and all of
these kinds of things. And the Biden administration would say, no, that you cannot have a blanket ban,
that you have to have, uh, can you...
And then why wouldn't these teams just become dudes?
Look, they say that 30% of Gen Z identifies as LGBT.
Sure, doesn't matter.
to then say that you were being harassed and discriminated against if you're not allowed
to play on your gender-selected team.
tim pool
Yep.
And then why wouldn't these teams just become dudes?
Look, they say that 30% of Gen Z identifies as LGBT.
libby emmons
Yeah, but one of those designations is queer, which is just a political designation.
tim pool
Sure, doesn't matter.
And they're saying that you don't have to dress a certain way to be trans.
libby emmons
You don't have to do anything to be trans.
tim pool
You can be... That's simple.
Like, if Phil wanted to, he could sign up for a women's softball team and play on women's team.
Why not?
libby emmons
Just like in Lady Ballers, right?
But right, so why wouldn't... You have to scream, call me ma'am.
You have to scream that.
tim pool
So basically, what you're going to get is, you're going to get A team and B team.
It doesn't matter if you call it men's or women's.
What's going to happen is, there are going to be guys who plan the basketball team for their high school, and they're going to be super good.
And there's going to be guys who didn't quite make the team, and they're going to be like, I guess I'll plan on women's.
And they'll go, yeah.
And then they'll go, uh, judge, I decided to be a woman.
And they're going to be like, right, because men and women are interchangeable social constructs.
You're on the women's team now.
And there'll be no females.
phil labonte
I mean, the left thinks that about just people in general.
libby emmons
Not about race.
phil labonte
The person doesn't matter.
But identity is a weird topic because it doesn't matter the person.
The identity is what they're using.
They'll plug in identities.
libby emmons
That's why viewpoint diversity is meaningless.
phil labonte
Yeah, their perspective is that the individual itself or the individual themselves doesn't matter.
You know that doesn't it doesn't matter who the person is.
They believe you can just put them in and and every person being equal will perform the job the same and that's just not the case.
tim pool
Yeah, you know, it's funny.
I went to Thailand on Chinese New Year, and I was in some big market in Bangkok, and it's this big long strip, and it's crowded.
And it's the weirdest experience.
I could see the tops of everyone's head.
It was wild.
I mean, for real, it's like a weird thing for me.
So I'm 5'10", so in the United States, that's like, give or take, it's like average, you know what I mean?
And I go to Sweden and Norway, and I am looking up at everyone.
Like, everyone is six feet tall in those countries.
It's crazy.
Then I go to Thailand, and I'm taller than everyone, and I'm like, Isn't everyone super tall in the Netherlands?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
phil labonte
Freakish.
tim pool
Yep.
phil labonte
They're freakishly tall over there.
tim pool
Well, they would call it normal.
phil labonte
Yeah, they would.
Well, I mean, that's why that's why, like, that's where the idea of giants came from, because, like, people from the north that were really tall were coming down into, like, the rest of Europe and fighting with the people that were shorter.
And they're like, oh, the north is where the giants are from.
There's giant men up there, blah, blah, blah, because they were tall.
tim pool
I go to Sweden and Norway and everyone's tall.
I go to Thailand and everyone's shorter than me.
The reality is people are different.
You're not going to put a 60 year old Asian woman on an NBA team.
Mark Cuban, are you?
I didn't think so.
So yeah, you can't have just anyone do any job.
There's a reason why we have leagues.
I think that gender makes sense.
You know, there's an interesting question there, too.
Why is the NBA, the largest demographic of NBA players, black, as well as, I believe, like over six feet tall?
That's not fair, right?
We need to bring equity into the NBA.
The rules are arbitrary.
We made the rules up!
We said, here are the rules to be on the team.
Okay, well how about we mandate the team has to be ethnically and gender diverse.
It's got to be half men, half women, and it's got to be that the racial makeup of the team needs to reflect the national population.
unidentified
And you can even have different height baskets for different height people.
If you're really, if you want true equity... No, it's got to be... Then you've got to adjust the height of the basket.
tim pool
No, no, no, no, no.
The teams have to be of average height.
unidentified
of average height.
tim pool
Yeah, so if you...
Okay.
So that means if you have one 7-foot-tall player, you have to have at least one, like,
4'10 player to balance out the average.
Because then what they'll do is they'll take the height of all the players, add them up
an average amount, and it must equal the national average.
unidentified
Yeah.
libby emmons
Okay.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah, that would work.
libby emmons
That's equity.
Yeah, I mean, it's like the people on the fence, you know?
tim pool
I love that meme.
libby emmons
I see you post that quite a bit.
tim pool
Well, there's some funny video where he's like, this meme is basically three people who have chosen to steal the ticketed required experience of watching a baseball game.
And so he was like, equality is them claiming that they have a right to steal the experience.
But unfortunately, one man is too short to steal it.
So then he thinks he should steal the crates of the other men so that they can all steal it together and they cheer for it.
libby emmons
Yeah, they love it.
tim pool
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right, well, it's Friday night, so I suppose we should just, you know, have a little bit of fun with it.
We have this segment from Daily Mail.
Tucker Carlson says UFOs are piloted by spiritual entities with bases under the ocean and ground.
I knew it.
libby emmons
Oh, of course.
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
I don't believe that.
tim pool
Well, you're wrong, because Tucker Carlson is clearly right.
phil labonte
Apparently.
I'm just curious as to, like, what happened to make Tucker Carlson believe that.
I think that I have to watch the podcast, obviously.
tim pool
Here we go.
UFOs and their pilots might not be extraterrestrials from a distant planet at all, but spiritual entities who have inhabited Earth for as long as humanity itself.
At least that's a supernatural theory.
Tucker Carlson had on Rogan's podcast, there's a ton of evidence that they're under the ocean and
under the ground.
Carlson told Rogan's listeners during the show's usual sprawling three-hour-long format,
they've been here for a long time.
His comments echo increasingly common refrain from UFO curious lawmakers, blah blah blah.
The first chapter of Ezekiel is pretty clear of a UFO sighting, Rep.
Burchett told reporters in January, 2023, ahead of his push to bring UFO whistleblowers testified before Congress.
Whenever I use the term angels, added Rep.
Burleson, who had been privy to the classified briefings on UFOs, said, to me, it's synonymous with an extra dimensional being.
Well, you see guys, that proves it.
We are basically, you guys ever see that Flatland narrative?
No.
It's like a way of explaining extra dimensions.
Because we live in three dimensions, how do you explain four?
You shrink things down to two and then show it from a three-dimensional perspective.
So there's this documentary called What the Bleep Do We Know?
Have you guys ever seen that one?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
That was real big in the 2000s, hippie new age stuff.
And what they show is there's this two-dimensional plane And there are creatures that live on only two dimensions.
That means they can only go, you know, left, right, up and down.
They can't go forward and backwards or however you describe it.
No, they can't go up and down, then go left, right, east, west, north and south.
We'll call it that.
He just the way they describe it as a three-dimensional being is above these people but they have no concept of above because they only move in two dimensions and so the main character sees the two-dimensional world and there's a little guy running around a little pac-man and when he speaks his voice Hits the center of the being's body.
So they hear the sound resonating from within their own bodies.
And they're like, where's this voice coming from?
And it's like, from the third dimension.
I'm above you.
Above?
What does above mean?
We don't have that concept.
Like, do we have a word, perhaps I'm not familiar with it, to explain?
How would you describe someone who is in the fourth dimension and next to you or above you?
Like, we have to relate it to three dimensions, next to or above.
If you lived in two dimensions, above is a concept that doesn't exist to you.
So it's like saying, flirtle.
It's meaningless.
And so anyway, to go back to what Tucker Carlson's talking about with aliens and spiritual entities, we could be those flatlanders, these poor doting three dimensional beings.
We actually exist in four dimensions, mind you, but we can only manipulate three.
And then the fifth dimensional and higher beings are watching and can move easily in and out.
And that's why they're only seen rarely.
libby emmons
Weird.
phil labonte
So, I don't know anything about, um, any dimensions, uh, beyond, like, the fourth dimension, but beyond, like, the time, like, space-time continuum, the things that I can actually experience, um, but apparently, uh, it is alleged that there are, like, eleven dimensions that are, that are the way they describe them.
tim pool
I think it's more than that.
phil labonte
Is it more than that?
Is it more than 11?
Because I think it was string theory that was... We're well beyond string theory, brother.
libby emmons
I remember string theory too.
I had a lot of good imaginings about that.
phil labonte
Has string theory been replaced by M-theory?
tim pool
Advanced is probably the better way to put it.
M-theory is part of string theory.
And I think M-theory, it's like 12 or 13 dimensions.
phil labonte
Okay.
But, uh, it's something that we, you know, just like you're saying, it's not, not something that we could, we could understand, but I, I don't even know how to conceptualize.
Like you're saying, I've seen like, I've seen some, some, um, Some motion videos and stuff like that were created by AI to try to explain multiple dimensions and stuff, but I can't.
I'm trying to wrap your head around it.
I don't have the ability to really comprehend multiple dimensions beyond space-time.
tim pool
Well, Tucker said it, so you have to take his word for it.
phil labonte
See, I kind of rely on the things that I've experienced, and that's why I'm an agnostic.
I can't say that things don't exist that I haven't experienced, but I can only rely on my senses.
I'll take Tucker at his word, but I can't say that I believe that it's... Libby thinks Joe Biden's an alien.
libby emmons
I don't know, but I do think whenever UFOs are in the news, that means something is going to happen with Hunter Biden.
tim pool
Google search Hunter Biden, Tucker talked about him.
No, this is just because Tucker went on Joe Rogan.
And of course, these are the things that Joe Rogan will talk about just to have fun and have a good time.
And Tucker said it.
unidentified
So Alex Jones said it too.
phil labonte
That's the thing.
It's like I didn't I didn't realize that Tucker was was doing things that were so Alex Jones-esque.
But then again, you know, no one's ever asked the guy.
Yeah, that's true.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Well, what do you think?
Do you think, uh... Well, I suppose the question is, do... Who in here believes in angels and demons?
libby emmons
Angels and demons?
Yeah, I think angels and demons exist.
tim pool
That's what Tucker's saying.
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
He's like, there's no difference.
They're extra-dimensional beings that have always been here.
I suppose then what Tucker is saying is kind of the simulist, secularist view of what literally is already in the Bible and in Scripture.
That there are entities and beings of good or bad or whatever that seek to influence.
libby emmons
Yeah, I do think that that exists.
I do think demons exist.
tim pool
And what do you think they're doing?
libby emmons
I think they're trying to steer people towards evil and cruelty.
I'm winning.
unidentified
I don't know.
libby emmons
I think the battle is inside each individual's heart.
And that's what I think.
It's probably a little naive of a perspective.
unidentified
I don't know if aliens exist or not, but I certainly...
I think that the idea of the spiritual realm manifesting itself in some form of UFO-esque appearing entity is not as far out there as it may come across, right?
How is that a more ludicrous explanation for what people are seeing than that it is something from the fourth or fifth or sixth dimension?
tim pool
I kind of feel like there's almost this unity in secularist simulation theory and scripture with how crazy things are getting.
It certainly seems like whatever the big picture is of life on Earth is coming to some kind of climax, and perhaps it is only the end of season 2024, and that's like...
You know, it's the, it's, well, we're on, if we break it up to 80 year periods, then we're, you know, season, I don't know, whatever, 200 and something.
But, uh, there seems to be a climax period, the grand finale of whatever this current arc is.
Bubbling up of evil, of, of anger, rage, war, conflict.
Some people believe it's, it's biblical, it's messianic, and some people think it's angels and demons or whatever.
Based on the way things are going right now with Israel, Iran, Biden, Trump, all of these unprecedented things, when someone goes online and they say, they fired up CERN and all this weird stuff happened, I'm kind of like, yeah, or this is the climax.
You know what I mean?
libby emmons
Yeah, I still, you and I have had this conversation before.
I think that we are always in a time when we want to feel, I think humanity is always in a time when we want to believe that it's the end of the world and it's the apocalypse and we're always comparing what's happening to various... Yeah, but like, it's true, like all throughout history from like the time Jesus was alive and like the temple was destroyed or going through the, whether it's like the crusades or the world wars or whatever.
unidentified
You see constant references to the end times, and I'm not saying they're not, I'm just saying that's a constant thread throughout history.
tim pool
That's why I'm saying it could be the end of a season, you know?
libby emmons
A season of humanity?
tim pool
Yeah, like the season finale's coming up.
It's like, ooh, I wonder what's going to happen at the end of this season of human.
Are we going to go to World War III and bomb each other?
libby emmons
That is kind of interesting, too.
You wonder, like, at what phase are we?
between the present and whatever the massive next conflict is, which of course there will be one,
or whatever the next huge global shift is going to be. It's exciting. I always think there was
this playwright called Len Jenkin who wrote this play called Dark Ride. And at the end of it,
all this crazy stuff happens because he's a crazy writer.
But at the end of it, he says something like, I don't care about philosophy, just tell me how it
ends.
And I feel like that sometimes.
Like, I don't care about your philosophy, but do just tell me how it ends.
Like, when I imagine I want to live forever, it's because I really just, I want to see how it all comes out.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
I mean, I think, I understand what you're saying.
I think that that is a very Western notion.
libby emmons
The end of things?
Yeah, because... Like it's not Buddhist.
phil labonte
Yeah, exactly.
It's definitely not Buddhist.
And it's also like, there's other, like, a lot of other cultures have thought of, like, you know, the cycle of life as, you know, like, there's the whole, like, seasons, and so it always, spring comes, and that was the notion that other cultures have had, and like, If I understand correctly, the kind of like end times and prophesize an end or prophesizing a utopia like what you get with the socialists and say kind of idea and stuff like that.
And even like people that aren't really that nowadays call themselves secular, but they still kind of vaguely believe in a time far in the future when everything's just fine, right?
Like the Star Trek.
Yeah, exactly.
It's really abstract and very loose and there are no actual solid things, but they just generally kind of say, someday in the future, everything's going to be perfect.
They assume, and you see it in the memes, like, if this didn't happen, then we'd have society with the space society.
You know, you see that kind of meme.
And I don't know that I don't know that that's something that we should really, like, we shouldn't build our lives on that.
We should build our lives on the idea that, you know, time for, at least for us, even though our time's gonna end, like, time keeps going after we end.
libby emmons
And I think that part of the reason... Well, that's what human reproduction is all about.
That's how you actually live forever.
phil labonte
Sure, sure.
I think that might be part of the reason why people don't, or people aren't so inclined to reproduce now.
libby emmons
They don't have that kind of But that's how you imagine the future.
phil labonte
I feel like people imagine that they're never going to end, though.
They don't want to admit that they're going to die.
tim pool
Well, the main problem is we have not just figured out how to transfer consciousness so that you can take over the body of your child.
And then once that happens, liberals will be immortal.
libby emmons
Because they will consume their children.
phil labonte
You know it.
unidentified
They will only have children in order to further their own brain.
They're going to back away from abortion.
tim pool
If we ever invent the ability to transfer consciousness and we know for a fact it works, abortion is done.
Because these liberals are going to be like, alright, I have a new vessel to inhabit.
libby emmons
They'll just be selling bodies.
Which they're already doing.
tim pool
Dude, have you seen Altered Carbon?
phil labonte
This might be the grossest conversation that we've had.
libby emmons
I am loving this conversation.
This is great.
tim pool
Have you seen Altered Carbon?
libby emmons
No.
tim pool
It's the show where they have a chip in their neck that stores their consciousness and if they die it can be transferred.
libby emmons
That's the transhumanist, that's a very transhumanist concept.
tim pool
The first season was good, the second season was stupid.
But basically, you can travel to other planets by basically downloading your consciousness and transmitting it.
So you travel at the speed of light through your consciousness and then inhabit whatever body they have available for you there, so you get a different body.
You invent something like that, abortion is over.
There's gonna be like, it's not alive yet, I'm taking its body.
libby emmons
Yeah, they will be bought and sold on the black market, just like.
tim pool
No, by black market, what do you mean?
You go to Colorado.
libby emmons
I don't think so.
tim pool
You go to Colorado, and there's gonna be clinics, and they're gonna sell pot and baby bodies to inhabit.
unidentified
Oh, God.
libby emmons
Well, you know what, then that will be the thing, you know how they say that Planned Parenthood is not selling baby bodies?
phil labonte
To fund their Lamborghinis.
libby emmons
And they're gonna go from saying it's not happening, to it is happening, to it's happening, it's a good thing.
phil labonte
It's a good thing, because you know, how else are you gonna get a new body?
libby emmons
Right, how else are you gonna do it?
phil labonte
Oh, so gross.
libby emmons
Yeah, pretty horrifying.
tim pool
I don't know that I believe it's possible to transfer consciousness because I believe we have souls.
libby emmons
I think so too.
Yeah.
phil labonte
See, I don't think we have souls.
libby emmons
You think we're just chemical reactions in our brains?
phil labonte
Yeah, and that's why I don't think that it's possible to transfer consciousness.
libby emmons
So you're sort of a physicalist.
phil labonte
Yeah, I think your brain is you.
tim pool
Haven't you ever talked to like Malice or somebody who's done DMT?
phil labonte
Not that deeply known.
tim pool
Like the common experience is that Or the general idea, and this could be whack, you know, whatever, is that when you can see through the veil or whatever when you're on DMT, it's basically like every person has like a strand coming out of them.
And so our conscious entity is actually a fragment of a greater extra dimensional thing we can't perceive.
So there is something that you can't pick that up and move it to a different person unless you could travel outside of the reality of that we exist in.
So it's not possible for us.
libby emmons
Yeah, I don't think it's possible either.
I think that your soul exists inside your body and I think that what makes a human being is their body and their soul and their consciousness combined.
I mean, your body is this amazing interface with the outside world, but you can't take it away and have a self.
tim pool
They're creating facsimiles, where they take your Facebook profile, and then all of your posts are put into an algorithm where it can try to create a facsimile of you.
And then, with all of your voice being recorded on all your Instagram and TikToks, they'll download it into a robot, and the robot will be like, yes, I am Tim Pool, I have all his memories.
phil labonte
Total recall is coming up, you know?
tim pool
Yeah, yeah.
Yep.
There's that funny meme I mention all the time where the guy's like, me looking up from hell as a robot, as the robot I downloaded my consciousness into is masquerading as me, taking over my life.
unidentified
Yeah.
I mean, I mean, this is the stuff where, like, scientific progression is good, and it's good, and it's good up until a point where you start, you start, you hit a, there's like a turning point at some, someplace along the line of scientific progression.
phil labonte
Yeah.
unidentified
Where we've like crossed an edge that we shouldn't have.
phil labonte
Well I don't know that we've done it yet, but there is definitely a point where, you know, too much becomes, you know, too much of the dose determines if it's poison or the cure, right?
So like you can have A little bit of something.
People that want to get Neuralink, right?
If they want to get Neuralink because they have an actual severed spinal column and it's going to allow them to feel their body and move around again, that is something that I don't think anyone can say that's going to be a negative, right?
That's going to be a good thing.
Almost all upside, right?
But when you create the machine that can do that, you're also creating a machine that can do a whole slew of other things that are going to have a whole slew of downsides that we can't predict.
So how much Do you, how many people get that kind of implant?
How, how much, you know, what kind of things are people that are writing software for that implant?
What kind of software are they writing?
All these things become, are questions that become important and the answers you could never predict and you can't predict how people are going to you know consume something like being able to write memories into your own brain and or write you know someone else's memories into your own brain so there's there's the initial like yes this seems like an obvious good because people that have a severed spinal cord would be able to walk again but then all of the stuff that follows after it and it's stuff that's entirely
You know, completely beyond human beings' ability to predict, you know?
unidentified
Well, I mean, we've already seen the danger of allowing some, like, woke Silicon Valley, you know, 25-year-old coder to determine, like, what is on your social media feed.
Imagine how much worse it's going to be if they're deciding what is, like, being fed directly into your brain.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, there's, there is that, but I don't think that it just is.
It's not, it's not even just ideology.
Like the dangers, the dangers transcend one ideology or the other, you know?
So I think that, that it's, it's something that.
tim pool
Yo, it's going to be weird.
They're going to be like, would you like to download into your brain an Aspen vacation?
And then you just experience someone else's memory.
phil labonte
That's creepy.
unidentified
Hard to imagine anything good coming out of this.
tim pool
I mean, people's lives would just fall apart.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I suppose the end result would be they would network- everyone would be networked and become the Borg.
libby emmons
That's the fear with Neuralink.
unidentified
I mean you would lose any connection to the real tangible physical world because every experience you have can be downloaded onto a computer chip.
phil labonte
Not only that, I wonder if a human can psychologically deal with it because if you're not sure if your memories are your own...
Or if you have memories that are implanted, like what is, how does your brain react to that?
What does that do to you psychologically?
tim pool
There's an idea for a short film.
Oh wait, was that Total Recall?
Where he gets the memories downloaded in?
It's like, I haven't seen Total Recall in so long, but wasn't it, they tried giving him an experience of being a secret agent?
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
And so, yeah, but what happens?
He goes insane or something?
phil labonte
Well, so you're not really sure what it is.
He goes and he wants to get the experience of being it, but you're also, later on in the movie, you're not sure if he actually was.
And so they mix the thing where he was actually the secret agent and the guy that he was created that thought he was going to get the experience was actually his cover or whatever.
But it was mixing with those two.
tim pool
We don't have time for one more thing.
I want to talk about this story here.
This is not the biggest news in the world, but it's interesting.
There's a story from the Daily Mail.
It's actually been covered quite a bit, where this 81-year-old guy killed an Uber driver who was 61.
And I don't want to show the picture because it's kind of messed up, but here's what happened.
Old guy gets a phone call and his scammer basically saying, You're going to give us money.
You're going to give us what we want.
Otherwise, we're going to cause you harm, right?
Threatening his life.
So he keeps this guy on the phone.
He gets his gun.
They say, we're going to come pick this thing up from you.
They then schedule an Uber driver and tell the Uber driver, hey, can you come to this house and pick up a package?
And she says, okay.
So when she shows up, this guy on the phone thinks this is the person coming to kill him and his family.
So he threatens her with a gun, like, what are you doing?
Who are you?
Stay away from my family.
She fights him, because she doesn't know what he's doing.
Some crazy guy pulled a gun on her.
He kills her.
It's wild.
unidentified
Yeah.
Crazy.
tim pool
Yeah, this is crazy.
I mean, a scammer called the dude, threatening him with death.
Said that his people were coming for him and then tricked some other lady into going.
What's this guy at his house supposed to do when a stranger shows up as described with a threat other than defend himself?
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean it's, I guess it's another version of swatting.
It's kind of the goal of swatting people was to get people, you know, to harm someone and this is... I guess they were hoping that he would just give up whatever he had and the Uber driver would take it and not realize what it was.
tim pool
Instead, somebody died.
I bet this kind of thing happens all the time, to be honest.
libby emmons
Well, the shooting probably doesn't happen all the time.
tim pool
No, exactly.
I mean like a scam.
libby emmons
Yeah, that's a pretty disturbing thing to do.
It's interesting what's going on with the gig economy because the rideshare apps and the food rideshare and all of that kind of stuff like Uber Eats and Uber and Lyft and all of these things.
They started out seeming like they were really going to be an improvement on things like taxi cabs and moped delivery drivers bringing you takeout food, and instead what we have is absolutely no accountability at all.
There's no accountability.
tim pool
Oh, it's worse than ever.
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
And it's more expensive now.
libby emmons
It's more expensive.
There's like five different fees if you get Uber Eats that you have to pay in order to get them to bring you food.
tim pool
The food's already marked up, too.
libby emmons
And the food's already marked up.
Yeah.
unidentified
And there's such a level of anonymity with all of this.
Instead of going to a store and looking at somebody in the eye and giving them cash and they give you some good or service or whatever it is, you're ordering it on your phone and then somebody or just something comes and delivers it to your house.
There's a breakdown and a lack of human contact and trust.
tim pool
We use like these ordering apps and stuff.
And I've noticed that it'll be like, you know, Janet is your driver.
And then some guy shows up.
From like, at this point, my attitude is, if it shows a picture of a person and says they're coming and a different person shows up, I'll be like, get off my property.
Like trespassing, like get off my property.
And then I will call that company and be like, who is this strange man who showed up?
Because what happens is, When someone who delivers for these companies gets fired, they have a friend sign up for them and then just say, just give me your phone and I'll do it for you.
No one says anything.
libby emmons
But now you could have like a scammer or somebody coming to your house and it's like, Well, and it's weird too, like, if you order Uber Eats, right, you, like, order through the app, so you have absolutely no relationship to the restaurant, and you have no relationship to the driver, and you have no relationship to the app.
So, like, I've had situations where the Uber Eats will show up, like, because I travel a bit, and they'll just be like, oh, I left your food outside the door of the hotel.
Like, on the street somewhere in Austin, you left my food there?
tim pool
You know what people do?
They'll order Uber Eats or DoorDash or Seamless or something.
They'll say like, uh, Wendy's, uh, get me a, you know, number one classic, or I don't know what Wendy's has, I don't know, Baconator!
Is that what they have at Baconator?
libby emmons
I don't know.
tim pool
Whatever.
And they'll be like, two Baconators, a large fry, chicken nuggets, and a large soda.
And then what these restaurants do is they make the order and then put it in an area for the drivers.
The person who ordered it's already there.
Walks up and says, you know, for Uber Eats, and then grabs the food and leaves.
And then when the actual driver shows up, the food's not there.
And they say to the person working at the restaurant, like, hey, I'm waiting for this order.
And they go, that order's been taken.
And then that Uber driver messages the company and says, food was stolen.
libby emmons
Oh, damn.
tim pool
And then you at home, the person who scammed them, they go, I never got my food.
libby emmons
Right.
tim pool
Yep.
libby emmons
Well, but also a lot of times if there's some issue, like I ordered something, I ordered like a whole meal and I only got a soda.
Oh, yeah, and they didn't and they wouldn't refund it.
They were like you've made too many complaints and it's like here's the other that's because you keep screwing up and there's no accountability.
tim pool
The other funny thing about it is the situation I just described it was an Instagram video I watched where it was like a seamless driver or he was on a bike and he had like a heater bag in his front of his bike and he walks into like a Wendy's and they were like that board has been taken and he's like looks I've got a scammer guys and he explains what's going on and Some people, you go to Starbucks and they have on the counter just the food done.
Meaning, what's to stop any random person from walking in and going, I'm the driver for this meal and then taking it and leaving?
libby emmons
That's all you do.
Also, if you walk into a Starbucks and you try and order something, they're so busy with their mobile orders and drive-through that you end up not ever being able to get anything.
You just stand there forever waiting.
tim pool
I think Amazon is closing their weird self, like, no-employee stores.
I heard that.
I don't know exactly what's going on.
But the problem is, with self-checkout and with this DoorDash system, you can't have these things in a low-trust society.
libby emmons
No.
tim pool
Because you can't criminally charge someone who accidentally took the wrong food.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
So if you, like, if you order, if some guy orders a small coffee and a muffin, Then they walk into Starbucks and see a large coffee and a sandwich, and they grab it and leave.
What are you gonna do?
Hey, you stole that.
Be like, oh, I had ordered a sm- So, scammers can just be like skimming off the top.
And you can't criminally charge someone for an accident.
Someone goes to self-checkout.
And they're ringing things up.
And then one item doesn't scan, but they don't notice.
And they walk out.
Hey, that bag of cheese you didn't pay for.
And they'll be like, I don't work here.
I don't know.
Like, it creates plausible deniability for criminals.
To be like, I thought it scanned.
libby emmons
Well, and we created a high-trust society, and then we decreased that trust and amplified the things that need trust to be effective.
That's why everything's crumbling.
Like, you saw 9-1-1 went out in, like, three states.
tim pool
Oh, man.
libby emmons
That's so messed up.
It went out in Las Vegas, South Dakota, and a bunch of Texas, and some Nebraska.
unidentified
And now creating a structure that's not conducive to social trust.
tim pool
Okay, here's my conspiracy theory.
uh we are in a simulation and this is life was created 24 years ago and uh everything was created by the the the creators of this universe to test whether humans could actually run run the machines so you know what i mean they're like okay are humans really smart enough to maintain a system like this let's build this system because you know the aliens or god or whoever they're very smart and then see if we put humans in these positions Will they be able to sustain it? And we failed miserably.
We just everything's falling apart.
You know, like we can't, we don't, our nukes don't even work anymore. I've met Gates had a
tweet about how like a whole portion of our F-35s are not operational. Like we ordered these,
these jets, they don't even work. We just, we got no 911s not working.
Like in 20 years, there's nothing works anymore.
And it's like, well, humans are actually really bad at what they do.
phil labonte
I didn't realize that 9-1-1 was like, why would 9-1-1 go down in multiple states across the, like- Cyber attack.
It's a cyber attack?
tim pool
No, I don't know, but right.
How does that happen all at once in multiple states?
phil labonte
Yeah, it's like, and such what seemed random spots, you know, I don't, I don't know anything about the 9-1-1 system.
So it's not like I'm, I'm speaking from a position of information here or speaking from an informed position, but like, That seems so weird like just random states you guys have a problem you guys have a problem and and without any rhyme or reason you know I don't understand and I don't get it but you know.
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
Look at what happened with Israel and Iran.
Wasn't it like Israel launched missile strikes hitting Iran and then Iran went, no, there were no missile strikes.
phil labonte
It was all a slap fight.
tim pool
No, I mean, this was legit.
But then Iran says, no, nothing happened.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Because they don't want to be forced into a war they can't win.
phil labonte
Yeah.
Well, I mean, that's the thing.
As much as Israel's gonna get a lot of crap from people that don't like Israel, Israel has been incredibly restrained dealing with Hezbollah and dealing with Iran and Iran's aggression through Hezbollah and stuff.
All of the stuff going on in the north is all Iranian proxies.
I know Hamas is not a direct proxy.
libby emmons
No, but they were trained by Hezbollah.
phil labonte
Yeah, so it's a little looser, the association, but Hezbollah is like, Got real weaponry that Hamas never had.
That's because they're backed by Iran.
That's the point that I'm making.
That's the point that I'm making.
And Hezbollah has still been shooting rockets into Israel.
Ever since October 7th, every couple days or whatever, they're still having clashes with them.
So they're having clashes with Iranian proxies.
Iran attacks them because they went after the guy that was planning attacks with the Iranian proxies.
And now it's like if Israel was not having restraint, they could have justifiably made a significant attack on Iran.
libby emmons
I will just say about the 9-1-1 lines that went down, it was not malicious.
It was, in fact, the company that provides the call system said that the outages came from the installation of a light pole by a third party.
So it's simply more incompetence and no accountability.
tim pool
That's what I'm saying, like, whoever re- like, you guys know what mud flood theory is?
libby emmons
No.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
The great mud flood that these conspiracy theorists believe that there is a great global empire called Tartaria, and then there was a great flooding event which basically shifted the landscape and pushed mud up, and there are people who actually believe that we don't build buildings, we discover buildings.
libby emmons
Oh yeah, I've heard about that.
phil labonte
We don't build any buildings.
tim pool
Yeah, like modern buildings we do, but they're like, if you go to Boston, you'll see like a building where there's a doorframe half buried.
And they're like, why did this building have a doorframe in its basement like this?
And the theory is because it's actually not as old as people think, but the mud flood came and swept mud up to the door and then they laid concrete down and then put new doors It's ridiculous.
It's wild.
But these people believe that there was a greater civilization before us, and we're discovering what they already built.
That being the case, we clearly don't know how to maintain any of it.
So it's all just breaking.
libby emmons
Well, and we have lost so many of our skills.
We're like on a technological decline of our actual ability.
We saw that when everyone was trying to bake bread during the pandemic, and everyone was like, what's a sourdough starter?
tim pool
No, we saw that with the Chaz Chop Farm.
unidentified
Sure, we've seen it multiple, multiple times.
libby emmons
I'm just thinking of all the lefty Karens and their masks in Brooklyn trying to figure out how to bake bread.
tim pool
This is a Star Trek episode.
They go to a planet where the people are governed by an AI that does everything for them.
And they... I don't know if this is the one where they can't reproduce.
I'm not sure.
But they have an AI that basically... No, that's a different one.
I think there's a force field.
But there's an AI that governs them and they've lost the knowledge of how anything works because they've never had to think about it.
So now they don't even know how to fix their machines or anything.
libby emmons
That's in the original series.
tim pool
That was in the original series?
libby emmons
They have an original one of that too, and TNG, I'm pretty sure.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah.
libby emmons
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, there you go.
We should go to Superchance.
libby emmons
And it's a... If you... No, go ahead.
tim pool
If you haven't already, smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, head over to TimCast.com, click join us, become a member.
Why?
YouTube is giving us the business.
They've taken down and deleted our two biggest episodes three years after the fact.
And they said, well, you broke the rules.
And I said, and they're like, this was funny, because the Google person said, just look, it's a warning.
And so if, you know, just don't do it again.
And I'm like, again, I have a thousand episodes on this channel.
What do you mean?
We've already done it.
Like, what are you talking about?
So I don't know if you want to support our work in the face of Google's censorship.
We've got big news for next week.
This is the last day in this studio.
My friends, gone will be the Ninja Pirate backdrop.
Gone.
The guitar might be there, but the room's much bigger.
So what's behind us is a lot harder to see.
unidentified
And so, uh... It'll be very different.
Yeah.
tim pool
This is the last one.
So, become a member of TimCast if you want to support our work.
We're gonna have a lot more changes to come on Monday.
Big changes!
TimCast 3.0!
4.0, I guess.
This'll be our fourth studio.
libby emmons
Fifth?
tim pool
Fifth studio.
First studio was in the basement in Jersey.
Then we moved it upstairs and built fake walls.
Then we moved to the attic here.
Then we moved to, this is called the sewing room, and this will be our fifth studio.
unidentified
Wow.
phil labonte
Keep growing and keep growing and keep growing.
libby emmons
I've been in three of them.
That's cool.
tim pool
Three of them.
libby emmons
I've been in three of them.
tim pool
You were in the, which one?
libby emmons
I will have been in three of them once I go to the new studio.
tim pool
You've been in the two that were here.
libby emmons
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
Is there going to be a grand unveiling?
Should that be like a party or something?
tim pool
Tomorrow's the big party.
Yeah, we've got a bunch of pro skateboarders coming out.
There's gonna be a big contest.
$35,000 in total prizes.
phil labonte
Damn.
tim pool
Shout out to Public Square, who is sponsoring the event as well, because we love Public Square.
You guys should definitely download Public Square, the app.
It shows you all of the businesses that believe in American values, so you can support the companies that support you with your dollars.
And, uh, they're gonna be involved, so we're really excited.
And, uh, very stoked that they wanted to be involved for sure.
The Boonies.
Boonies HQ on YouTube.
And, uh, gonna be a lot of fun.
Gonna be a lot of fun.
Tomorrow's the big party.
All day.
Got a lot of fun stuff happening.
And we're gonna be setting up poker with the boys as well.
So this is the new poker show, and we gotta figure this one out.
Right now the poker table we have is an RFID table, it's sitting in the green room, but I don't know if we could do a show in there?
We might have to bring it up to the next floor, because we need a computer and all this stuff, but we're probably gonna do poker with the boys as a...
Prop game, charity game, meaning no real cash will be exchanged by any of the players, but whoever wins can select a charity to receive the super chat revenue and $1,000 on top, or something like that.
And then we're gonna play, the idea is Friday nights after the show, like tonight, the idea would be right at 10, the poker game kicks off where everyone's hanging out, and it's more of just a humor, comedy hangout thing where people are playing poker.
And it's not so much about poker.
It's more about how funny it is when we're all laughing and people are drinking and hanging out because the games are silly.
So that's the plan.
That'll probably be coming soon.
That'll be great.
But let's read superchats.
Clint Torres, the first superchat with Howdy People.
No one saw that coming.
TokenBlackGuy says, hey Tim, what Garmin smartwatch do you wear?
It is the Fenix Pro 7, I believe.
unidentified
Is it?
tim pool
I don't know.
The Fenix Pro, one of them.
And I like it a lot.
Although it's meaningless.
What I like about it is that when I'm working out, it tracks my calories, heart rate, and that's really important.
Because Knowing how much you're burning how much you're exercising in which zone you're extra exercising in matters and It then sends it to my fitness pal app for where my macros are and it tells me like my nutrition and all that stuff It's fantastic.
The thing is though.
It's got this thing called training readiness meaningless Right now it says my training readiness is 56.
And it's like based on your heart rate and your HRV and stuff from sleeping, we think you're at 56.
Moderate exercise.
Don't go crazy.
And then one day I woke up and it was at a one.
And it was like, do not exercise today.
And I was like, what?
And then I exercised.
I had one of the best days of skating I've ever had, felt like a million bucks.
And I was like, I don't, I don't get this thing.
And then I'll take like two days off.
I'll eat really, really healthy.
I'll stretch, but not work out and be like, I'm going to get a hundred percent.
And then I'll wake up and it'll be like, no, you better not exercise.
And I'm like, what?
libby emmons
It's just crazy.
tim pool
Yeah, it is weird.
I don't get it.
I'm like when the GPS tell told Michael Scott to drive into the lake I will say one of the craziest things about this though is the it's got a thing called body battery and Based on your heart rate the like the food you ate and stuff like that.
It tells you what percentage of body battery you have and if you drink a beer If you get drunk, the next day you wake up, your stats are all super low.
It knows.
unidentified
It can tell?
tim pool
Oh yeah.
Like, because your heart rate's out of whack, your deep sleep is bad, and it's like, you cause damage substantially to your body from drinking.
And then, uh, the funny thing is though, I always thought playing poker was relaxing.
I'm just sitting here, the TV's on, I'm looking at cards, throwing them away, looking at cards, it's super chill, and then when I got this watch, I'm watching the body battery just tick down, and I'm like, I'm just sitting here doing nothing.
When I sit here on this show, it barely goes down, nothing moves.
Heart rate stays the same, stress levels, when I play poker, it's like heart rate goes up periodically, and then I'm like, that I kinda get, you're in a big hand, but the stress level hits max.
Then I'm like, I don't feel stressed at all.
But then the body batters and then after like a few hours, it's like, go to bed.
And I'm like, whoa, that's weird.
I feel fine.
But it can tell something about your body changes while you're playing poker that increases activity.
unidentified
Interesting.
tim pool
Yeah.
Wild.
Let's go!
Lincoln says the guy who bows to YouTube tells Trump to risk jail.
That's really funny.
There's like two different things.
There's should you get your show banned for saying like a naughty word versus should you defend the fabric of this nation?
And stand up at the Supreme Court for presidential immunity, which will have repercussions for generations to come.
I am not a president.
I am not a mayor.
I am not an elected official in any way.
I'm a guy who complains on the internet.
And my view is I'd like to complain on the internet more.
So, as I've stated before, there's 9,000 things you want to say, and one thing you just don't say, and I'm like, we have an uncensored members-only show, where we can talk about things that maybe get a little dicey, but for the most part, none of these things are actual big issues.
Like, people live in this world where they think, like, what can't I say?
I'm like, don't say you want to kill anybody.
Like, that's literally it.
That's the only issue.
That's why when they took the episodes down, I'm like, we didn't break any rules.
They made it up.
They claimed we supported QAnon.
And I was like, that's a lie and you know it.
No one in this show has ever defended or supported QAnon.
We make fun of QAnon.
That's a lie.
And they're like, well, I don't know.
And I'm like...
And this is the show that after they deleted our Alex Jones, Michael Mal's episode, we instantly brought them back on the show.
They wouldn't tell us why they took it down.
I said, okay, then I said, oh, well then we'll do it again.
And then a week later we did it again.
But there's a big difference between like Trump's strategies on how to deal with the law and whether Trump should not go to the Supreme Court hearing on presidential immunity, which is, I think, We'll have repercussions for this country forever.
libby emmons
I think he should go to it.
tim pool
I agree.
And I think it's a victory too, because if they jail him for that, they make him a martyr for trying to defend this country.
libby emmons
They make him a martyr for standing up for his own due process rights.
But it's not just that, it's the whole thing.
tim pool
He has to be there for us.
This country, if the left erodes the powers of the executive branch to this degree, part of me says fine, arrest Barack Obama, but the reality is our president needs to be able to do his job.
He needs to be there.
And if he gets jailed for 30 days because of it, or however long, then he can say, they are jailing me for defending this nation, for standing up for the office of the presidency, which needed to be done.
All right, we'll grab some more.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
says, the Title IX rewrite is so out of pocket, like crazy, with Biden ishing on women's actual rights, one would think that all women wouldn't vote for him.
They'd love it.
Sorry, they love it.
Look, there's a video right now going viral of a trans woman who looks very masculine walking out of a women's bathroom, and a woman yelling at him.
Yelling at this person.
I actually don't know the person's identity, so I'm not gonna use pronouns.
We'll be respectful here.
But women watch these videos.
They know these videos exist.
And they get mad at the woman who yelled at the male.
Women love males in their spaces.
Not all, but enough of them to vote and vote in this way.
Like I mentioned, there's a reason why Dylan Mulvaney's followers are all female.
phil labonte
The only thing women are really committed to is that they want to be able to have abortions.
tim pool
I suppose.
I don't know.
All right, Steven Patton says, my birthday's on Sunday.
The best gift I could ask for is for you to give me, give my debut fantasy novel a shout out.
As Nomads Wander by Steven Patton.
Shout out to all of the TimCats viewers, Building Culture, and that book is As Nomads Wander by Steven Patton.
I hope that you see many sales and end up on the New York Times bestseller list, which is an editorial list and has nothing to do with how many books you sold.
Hans Gruber says, why did Phil stop saying failed musician?
I think Phil was worried that Hassan was going to hurt himself, so.
phil labonte
It's a long intro, man.
Every day.
Every day.
Phil Labonte, lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains, and real failed musician, anti-communist, counter-revolution.
That's a long thing every time, man.
tim pool
Here's a good one.
Danish Patriot says, the Bloomberg article about the UAE's cloud seeding program, which resulted in mass flooding, has been changed.
Now it's climate change.
libby emmons
Now it's climate change, but they said it was cloud seeding.
tim pool
Yep.
libby emmons
What the hell?
tim pool
Would you wanna look it up to see what it says now?
libby emmons
It's the Bloomberg one.
I don't have access to Bloomberg.
You know, it's like $40 a month.
tim pool
Cody White says, yeah, but you still see the headline on Google.
libby emmons
Yeah, yeah, I'm checking it out.
tim pool
YouTube has also been shadow banning Joe Rogan's episode with Tucker Carlson.
I saw that.
People were mentioning the views were super low.
So I don't think it's shadow banned because people want to watch Joe Rogan.
I think the views are masked.
So it looks like it's not prominent.
libby emmons
Yeah, now it says... Now it says one million views.
phil labonte
Yeah.
libby emmons
Here's why experts don't think cloud seeding played a role in Dubai's downpour.
Another one says record rainfall in Dubai.
Blame climate change, not cloud seeding.
phil labonte
Yeah, climate change!
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Dude, I'm blaming climate change for everything.
libby emmons
I'm just rolling with it.
tim pool
Next time I do something to piss off my girlfriend, I'm just gonna be like... Climate change.
libby emmons
It's climate change, babe.
It's climate change.
tim pool
She's gonna be like, did you feed Seamus?
And I'll be like, climate change?
She'll be like, oh, okay, I get it.
I'll be like, yeah.
phil labonte
Take out the garbage?
tim pool
Hey, I got an idea.
We should do a bit where, like those Mentos commercials.
And then it's just like holding up a paper that says climate change or whatever.
libby emmons
Yeah, it's climate change.
tim pool
Those commercials were funny, there was like, I remember one where this guy has his car parked, and then someone wants his spot, so they pay it, he pays, like some guy pays construction workers to lift the car up and move it, so we can steal the spot, and the guy's like, what are you doing to my car?
And then he goes, Mentos.
And the guy goes, oh, of course, you're eating mints, that's why you moved my car into the middle of the road.
Like those commercials were nuts!
But we should do that, but with climate change.
phil labonte
Blame everything on climate change.
tim pool
for work, why are you late? Climate change! Really? That's right. Wow. Well I can't
unidentified
fire you for that. That's right.
tim pool
Acrobatics says Bitcoin halving in T-minus 10 minutes but that was at 8.06.
The Bitcoin halving has happened. Yeehaw! And if you look at the Bitcoin price
charts, every time a halving happens within like, it's basically algorithmic.
You can look at it and be like a having happened and then six months later the price went up X amount.
Then having happened the price went up X amount.
So people are projecting right now I think 200,000 per coin.
libby emmons
Oh wow.
tim pool
Yeah.
Wow.
And there's a lot of people talking about the mistakes people are making with Bitcoin and people are saying things like, How could one Bitcoin be worth so much?
And it's like, because it breaks up into decimal points.
And so, there will come a time... I can't remember who said this, they were like in... I think it was Zero Hedge.
In 50 years, the idea of owning a single Bitcoin will be a big deal.
Like the word millionaire or billionaire, there will be a whole coiner.
And someone who's a whole coiner is someone who has like $500 million.
Like you have one whole Bitcoin?
You have a single coin?
Yeah.
Cause the rewards are gonna start dropping down to the decimal points within, you know, the next 16 or whatever.
Right now I think the reward might be like one, one point something Bitcoin per block or whatever.
Divide it up for your mining network or whatever.
I don't know too much about it.
But that means these big companies Interesting.
eventually going to produce less than one coin Every time they saw they solve a block
So if you have one coin that means every company's attempt to generate revenue will always be less than the amount you're
unidentified
holding Interesting which like the value is going to go up a lot
phil labonte
right now. I think it's six. It's six point two five Where it's so it's down to three then I think
tim pool
Are you sure?
phil labonte
Well, I put it in to Brave and... But having just happened then, so it should be three.
tim pool
I thought it was three to one, but that could be wrong.
phil labonte
So it could, it'd be 3.13 or whatever.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
Something like that.
tim pool
And yeah, the projections right now are that one coin will equal 200k.
And then we're going to move to a period where people stop saying Bitcoin and start saying Sats.
libby emmons
What's Sats?
tim pool
It's the lowest decimal point of a Bitcoin.
They're called Satashes.
So they're going to stop saying, you know, one Bitcoin is $200,000.
In 50 years, they're going to say one Sat is $3.
And when one Sat is $3, one Bitcoin is $3 million.
unidentified
Wow.
Yep.
tim pool
And then of course with inflation, it's actually equivalent to maybe like $300,000.
phil labonte
That's part of the reason why Bitcoin is so likely to reach like a million dollars of Bitcoin and stuff.
It's not just that the value is going to go up and they're scarce, it's that the value of the dollar is likely to continue to go down significantly.
unidentified
R.F.
tim pool
Daniels says, I'm 22 and in the beginning of the show, uh, and in the beginning of the show, but I'm Gen Z and work in a factory with old heads.
I don't know what you mean by the beginning of the show.
Um, but most Gen Z men that I know in Iowa are all right-leaning.
My first time ever voting was 2020.
I voted for Trump and, uh, and so did most of Iowa.
Well, you're in Iowa.
But, uh, prediction.
Young men are right-wing, young women are left-wing.
Young women turn 35, they all become conservative.
Not all of them, but you'll see a bunch of these women become conservative.
Because men can have kids and families whenever they want, and women can't.
And that it's not meant to be mean or derisive, it's just true.
So a lot of women who are like millennials who are going to be approaching 35 are going to start considering like... So 35 I think is when they call it a geriatric birth?
I could be wrong about that.
libby emmons
Yeah, that's correct, 35.
tim pool
Yeah.
So these women who are 35, it's like, what do you think they're thinking when the doctor says, well, if you consider having a kid now, it's considered geriatric.
You're, you're very old.
And they're going to be like, what?
And it's like, well, I mean, once you're in your forties, you can't have kids anymore.
Donald Trump was what, 60?
When he had Barron?
libby emmons
Yeah, but he's male.
tim pool
Exactly.
That's what I'm saying.
libby emmons
Totally different animal.
tim pool
So these young men are like, I can have a family whenever I want.
A guy's gonna be like, maybe I'll have a family when I'm 50.
And then the woman's gonna be like, I can't do that.
So, well, good luck, because all of your peer group of males are going to be right-leaning.
So they're either not going to have families, or they're gonna have to capitulate and say, I'll be whatever you want me to be.
unidentified
If the males are right-leaning, are the females going to start becoming right-leaning?
Yes.
You think so?
What's that going to do to the trans debate, like we were discussing earlier?
tim pool
The future is conservative.
Based on the math, for a variety of reasons, the future will be conservative.
One, liberals abort sterilize their kids, and Gen Z and younger males are right-leaning, and females are left-leaning.
Oh, look at that camera!
The last view of the studio, everybody!
Notice in the back of the room, there's nothing there anymore.
So basically what happens is, My prediction is that many women who are millennial, Gen Z-ish, who are very liberal and left-leaning, are not going to become conservative.
But because of the pressure to, look, you only have a certain amount of time while you can have kids, once they start getting older, they're gonna say, if I wanna have a kid, I have to marry a conservative guy because all the guys are conservative.
And they're gonna go around dating and they're gonna be like, well, I'm progressive.
And the guy's gonna be like, not interested, bye.
She'll be like, why aren't you interested?
And they'll say, lady, With all due respect, I'm 35.
I got 35 more years to have a family.
You don't.
I can do whatever I want and I can wait as long as I have to to find a woman who I think will be a good mother to my kids.
And this is going to put massive pressure on women that men won't face.
So, I think the end result is a lot of women will say, fine.
The only other conundrum there would be guys are gonna be like, I think the issue might actually be a little bit different.
It won't be that women outright just become conservative.
It's that a lot of these Gen Z guys are gonna be like, you're a liberal progressive, bye.
And she'll be like, please, please, I'm trying so hard.
I wanna have a family.
It's like, I'm not gonna marry you.
You'll just divorce me and take the kids and then- And all the money.
libby emmons
Yeah, not interested.
tim pool
And be like a little bitch about the divorce.
And then conservative women are gonna have a much harder time Or a much better time, actually.
Because there's going to be so many guys, they're going to have to pick up the litter.
The guys are going to be like, it's so tough to find a good conservative woman, and all the liberal women are going to be freaking out because they can't find families.
And it's going to cause social upheaval, for sure.
I think a lot of these women will start claiming to be conservative.
Maybe they don't vote that way, but they're going to be like, I'm not progressive!
libby emmons
I think they're just going to either become single mothers by choice and do sperm donors, because they're going to be totally fine with that and suckered into the idea that children don't need fathers, or they're just going to be like Chelsea Handler and get stoned and jerk off.
tim pool
I think getting stoned and jerking off, because they're not going to have kids.
They're going to be like, I can't afford it.
I can't have kids.
There will be some women who do, but I think it's going to be a minority.
libby emmons
Yeah, I had a whole conversation.
There was like a number of women who were older than me in the theater community who had bought into the whole careerist mentality in the arts and did not have children and they were hitting their early and mid-30s and like late 30s and they were trying to figure out what to do because they wanted to be mothers and they couldn't figure out They couldn't figure it out.
And so the biggest option was Single Motherhood by Choice.
And I was actually commissioned to write a play about single motherhood by choice for Williamstown Theater Festival in Massachusetts.
And I ended up doing a lot of digging into it.
And my play was about how this was a really bad idea.
And I ended up writing about essentially how sperm donors and people who are donating eggs and all these things, how it's important to take responsibility for your own genetic material.
And I ended up in the workshop reading of the play, and the director of the festival, who I think it was Roger Rees at the time, he was like, we're not really interested in these deep conversations about the meaning of life.
And I was like, yeah, but I was commissioned.
Like, what did you think was gonna happen?
Like, this is where we land?
tim pool
I heard someone said this, and I remember who, that women solve their problems more emotionally.
And so what happens is when boys are raised without fathers, Then they solve their problems emotionally, get older, and then solve their problems emotionally, but male emotion is a bit more aggressive and violent, and so it results in guys doing drugs, going to jail, whereas guys who are raised by their guys and taught to solve things logically don't react emotionally and avoid the conflicts and the fights and things like that.
libby emmons
Well, we should hope so, yeah.
tim pool
It is true that kids who don't have dads end up committing, are more likely to commit crimes and, you know, go to jail.
libby emmons
Yeah, kids definitely need dads in their lives.
tim pool
All right, RF Daniel says, this is my second Super Chat tonight, but before tonight, I've been at work in a factory.
At 22 years old, many young people support you and your team.
The second Super Chat is just because I want to support you and your team, but Gen Z is definitely leaning right.
The dudes are.
But it looks like younger women are going further left.
But like I said, I think there will be massive social pressure on Gen Z women as they get older, and they're gonna have to, like, they're gonna have to realize, if I don't abandon these views, they'll have to lie.
They're gonna go on dates and they'll go, I am not progressive.
And they're gonna be thinking, like, if this guy finds out that, you know, I was like a liberal activist or whatever, he'll never want to see me again.
And they're gonna have to stop entertaining all that stuff.
I think ultimately, the reason why I think it leads to them becoming conservative is because then they will find themselves surrounded by women who are all saying conservative things whether they believe it or not because they want to have families and they want to fit in and social force is powerful.
libby emmons
I think they're just going to end up lonely.
tim pool
A lot of them, maybe most of them.
But I think a lot of women are going to be like, I am done with progressivism.
It lied to me.
You see that article from that woman who said feminism lied to me?
libby emmons
Yeah, I mean, she's not wrong.
Feminism lied to all of us.
tim pool
It went super viral, and she's like, I was told to save my eggs and have kids, and she's like, now I'm getting older and being told I can't, and like, what's going on?
There was one woman who was featured on the cover of a magazine about freezing her eggs for her career, and then her eggs were destroyed, and they were like, you will never be a mother, and she like, broke down and started screaming, and it was like, yep.
libby emmons
That's what's gonna happen, yeah.
unidentified
I mean, that's the interesting part about the sexual revolution, and feminism, is that the ultimate conclusion to that is bringing power much more aggressively in the men's court, right?
It's like, historically, women had much more sexual power than men did, and that was what kind of sort of balanced out the dynamics between the genders, and erasing that kind of gives men exclusive power relationally.
libby emmons
Well, that's why when the feminist movement was, you know, really getting going in the 70s, there were men who were involved who pushed abortion onto the platform.
tim pool
Alright, Anthony Shaw says, Farewell to the old studio.
I've been in the Tim Train since 2019.
On to the new and better.
Love the conversation and debate.
Rock on, Phil.
Ian was where I was 20 years ago.
Keep rolling, Twenties.
Brother and sisters.
We may find ourselves in this studio, um, sometimes, depending on, uh, why we may need to come back or whatever, so the studio will still exist.
And we might put a different show in it.
But, uh, we have a new, much bigger, better property, studio, uh, facility, multiple buildings.
It's pretty wild.
Pretty wild.
So, uh, awesome stuff to come.
Really excited.
Alright.
We'll grab a couple more Super Charots.
Harry Lauren says, this is sad.
I'm old enough to remember when gay meant happy and queer meant strange.
The only sport that only women can win is women's gymnastics.
I do not believe that's true.
There's, uh, there's viral videos of guys who do women's routines and, uh, yeah.
There are some really funny videos where women do some things the guys can't do.
And that's based on like hip ratio to shoulder ratio and things like that.
But there was some random dude, non-Olympian guy who works out.
He does gymnastics and works out.
He's non-competitive.
And he did... Who is... Simone... What's her name?
phil labonte
Simone Biles.
unidentified
Simone Biles.
tim pool
He did her routine and he was, and it was just like some random guy.
And it's like, dude, the funny thing about Caitlin Clark is they're like, did you know that she's like tied with Steph Curry or she like beat Steph Curry?
And it's like, and she's what, like two feet closer to the hoop using a smaller ball at a lower height.
So it's like, it's totally different things.
They're like, yeah, but they don't count it that way.
And I'm like, okay.
All right, guys, ladies and gentlemen, I have a new standard.
It's called pick drop.
If I launch this pick and it lands anywhere within the visual radius of Phil, that's worth 876,000 points in basketball because I made the rules up.
Phil saw it!
I now beat Caitlin Clark and Steph Curry for points in basketball.
Now, my rules are dramatically different.
My ball was a guitar pick, my hoop was the whole room, and I only had to do one time to win hundreds of thousands of points, but you know.
libby emmons
The best part was my hoop was the whole room.
unidentified
That's right.
tim pool
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Brandon, do you want to shout anything out?
unidentified
Yeah, thanks for having me on.
I'm Brandon Gill.
I'm the Republican nominee for U.S.
Congress from Texas 26.
You can find more out about me at BrandonGillForCongress.com.
tim pool
Right on.
phil labonte
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libby emmons
I'm Libby Emmons.
I'm the editor-in-chief for The Postmillennial and Human Events.
You can check out everything we're doing there.
ThePostmillennial.com, HumanEvents.com, and you can find me on Twitter at Libby Emmons.
unidentified
Thanks, guys.
I appreciate you coming to the show.
See you in the new studio.
Cheers.
tim pool
And the last super chat from Castcastle, from Dane Font.
He says, paying child support to all my poker baby mamas at Timcast Media.
Heart emoji.
We will see you all with clips throughout the weekend, and then we're back on Monday.
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