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Ben Shapiro & Candace Owens Agree To Debate Antisemitism After Schulz Roast w/John Nolte|Timcast IRL
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tim pool
There's an earthquake today in, uh, epicenter was New Jersey.
And the crazy thing about it is Trump's golf resort was the epicenter, like basically next
But come on like considering the size of this earthquake is a 4.8, but the how far it reached Trump.
It's like Trump's golf resort in Bedminster was the epicenter.
And so, of course, we now have to discuss whether we think it was a Chinese superweapon causing this, Russian, or perhaps the Democrats.
I'm kidding, by the way, but it's Friday and it's a slow Newsweek.
So I decided perhaps there's something that not enough people are talking about and doesn't generate enough conversation online.
And that issue is, of course, Israel.
So instead, we're going to talk about that because, uh, Candace, oh, all right, we got to slow down.
So Andrew Schultz says Ben Shapiro can't debate anybody but college liberals.
So Candace Owen says I would like to debate Ben Shapiro.
So Ben Shapiro says okay let's debate.
Now they've agreed and they're trying to figure out a time and place.
Ben Shapiro says Nashville Monday.
Candace Owen says I won't do it on the Daily Wire.
My name got floated for potential moderator.
I volunteered.
So I really want to talk about this issue.
I think it's interesting why Candace and Ben are debating, and I don't know, maybe having a discussion on it may actually make me not a good moderator for the debate, considering we're gonna have a conversation Friday before it could potentially even happen.
We'll talk about that.
We'll talk about, of course, the earthquake that hit New York, New Jersey, and what omen That's the goal.
epicenter being at Trump's golf resort.
And then I love it.
They got a bunch of conspiracies about the solar eclipse.
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Our guest tonight is John Nolte.
Who are you?
unidentified
What do you do?
I work for Breitbart News.
I've been there since 2008, and I write three editorials a day and call it a day.
It's a great job.
I'm a very... Greatest job in the world, I have.
tim pool
Well, all right!
Actual Justice Warrior has returned!
unidentified
Yes.
I'm just like this morning.
I am a YouTuber.
I've been doing it since 2016, and I make one to two videos a day, except when I take days off.
tim pool
Libby's here.
libby emmons
Libby's here.
That's me.
I'm Libby Emmons.
I'm with the Postmillennial.
Glad to be hanging out.
ian crossland
I'm in like a lightning rod.
What's happening, brothers and sisters?
Crossland's in the house.
Coming at you live.
unidentified
He is.
ian crossland
Have a good Friday.
I'm actually really enjoying talking about lightning and volcanoes and earthquakes.
tim pool
Yeah, and Monday's going to be fun.
ian crossland
I was going to scream out, cast brew, while you were shouting.
I like that stuff.
Just so everyone knows, if you don't know already, I'm a huge fan.
tim pool
This is going to be the last show we do before the great eclipse swallows up this nation.
So it could be the end of days.
That's episode 999 on Monday, by the way.
We got Serge pressing the buttons.
unidentified
Yep, I'm here, y'all.
Ready when you are.
tim pool
Alright, let's just, uh... You know, we were originally gonna talk about the earthquake, but this is fun, and the conversation, before the cameras even turned on, got pretty good, so I was like, let's just talk about Candace, Ben Shapiro, Israel, antisemitism, and what this whole debate's about.
So here's how it starts.
You got this clip from Andrew Schultz.
Anomaly tweets, Andrew Schultz realizes Ben Shapiro is only good at debating college liberals, and can't win debates against serious competition.
I will play the clip for you now, and you can hear what he had to say.
andrew schulz
Candace, she's not afraid of nobody.
She will say whatever the fuck she wants to say.
She's smart enough.
She will debate any single person.
She'll go out there and do it, right?
Ben Shapiro is debating college kids.
unidentified
Yeah.
andrew schulz
Let's just be honest, right?
Anytime he debates somebody who's worthy, he either gets washed or bare minimum stalemate.
I've never seen him actually win a debate against somebody who's educated in the matter.
tim pool
So in response to this, Candace Owen says, I would like to debate Ben Shapiro on Israel and the current definition of antisemitism.
Can somebody make that happen?
To which Ben Shapiro responded, sure Candace, I texted you on February 29th offering this very thing.
Let's do it on my show this Monday at 5pm at our studios in Nashville.
90 minutes, live streamed.
Uh, I believe Ben went on to say, I am now signing off- Oh, okay, okay.
There's a little bit more on the drama before we get into it.
Candace says, I'm sure you can appreciate why I prefer to keep this off the Daily Wire platform, as well as the true reason why we were never able to make any discussion happen.
Let's choose a neutral, trustworthy platform.
I vote Patrick, bet David.
To which Ben Shapiro responds, Candace, I can see why you'd want to hide behind a moderator, particularly one who said we should rename our company the Daily Jewish Wire just yesterday.
No.
One-on-one, Monday at 5pm.
We can sit down and have a healthy debate like adults, and we'll livestream it on X and YouTube.
Take it or leave it.
As to the true reason you didn't respond to my offer to sit with you and discuss these issues publicly or privately back in February, I have no idea what the hell you're talking about.
He then said, I am now signing off for Shabbat.
I plan to be in Nashville for this conversation on Monday.
So, this all starts with, of course, Andrew Schultz saying Ben Shapiro can't debate.
I don't agree with Schultz on this one.
I think he's isolated.
There's copious amounts of Ben Shapiro, you know, dishing it out to college liberals who ask him these questions.
But also Ben Shapiro has sat down for numerous discussions.
He does the Sunday Special.
He has conversations and debates with tons of people all the time.
I don't... I'm not saying he's the greatest debater in the world, but the idea that he's only ever successful against college liberals, I disagree with.
But I don't know what you guys... if you guys want to jump in and we'll just...
unidentified
I think he would do great in the debate on Israel because he's right.
I think that would help him enormously is that his position on it is the right position.
tim pool
Well, what is that position?
unidentified
That the war in Gaza is a just war.
That the only moral outcome of the war is, and I'm going to use this word deliberately, is the extermination of Hamas.
And that those who are calling for ceasefires, those who are saying, blaming, you know, like these aid workers.
Is Israel, did they make a mistake?
Are they responsible for that mistake?
Yes.
But are they morally responsible?
No.
Hamas is morally responsible because they started the war.
So that gives, in my opinion, he's correct on the debate and I don't see how someone can morally say that what Israel is doing is wrong because what they're doing needs to be done or more people are going to die in the future.
tim pool
How did the World Central Kitchen thing happen?
How do you accidentally target three separate vehicles in different areas and kill a bunch of aid workers?
unidentified
That I don't know, but if you start a war, which is what Hamas did, Innocent people are going to die.
I don't think for a second that Israel targeted innocent people.
Number one, why would they?
The only thing it could do is hurt them, which of course it has.
tim pool
Well, they did target innocent people.
The question is... I mean deliberately.
Right.
Was it an accident or otherwise?
unidentified
I think obviously it was an accident.
What's the upside to killing innocent people deliberately?
There's no upside.
ian crossland
The aid workers?
The upside is they don't get the food and water to the people they're trying to exterminate.
unidentified
But if they kill those people, I mean, there's all kinds of stuff going in there to help the people in Gaza, to help the civilians, we hope.
So knocking out 12 aid workers is not going to make a huge difference in what's going in there.
All it's going to do is what's happened to Israel, what we all know was going to happen to Israel, which is Biden turned against them and public opinion turned against them.
There's no upside to killing those aid workers.
ian crossland
One of the thoughts I had while you were explaining that is that because Hamas started the war, Israel has the right to kill civilians.
No, I didn't say that.
It's not their fault.
Their hand was forced.
So I disagree because if a country were to invade my borders and start a war and then I go total war on them and start bombing their cities and killing them, I don't have the right to blame them for me killing all those civilians.
I made that choice.
unidentified
But Israel has a moral obligation to exterminate Hamas.
They have to do it.
And that's going to save lives.
It's like dropping bombs on Japan.
Atomic bombs on Japan.
That was a moral thing to do.
It ended the war and it saved lives.
And if you let Hamas go on, especially after what happened October 7th, you're going to see a lot more civilians.
It's going to be like Iraq and Afghanistan.
Twenty years of hell.
Civilians, this immoral, moral war that you let go on for decades and decades.
tim pool
So, couldn't they go to... where's the Hamas leadership currently at?
Aren't they in, like, Qatar?
libby emmons
A bunch of them are in Qatar, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, so why doesn't the U.S.
and Israel just actually go and put them in cuffs?
unidentified
I don't I don't think it's that easy.
tim pool
I mean if they hide among civilians plus you gotta get out there like I'm pretty sure these are public facing people who get like one guy went on TV.
unidentified
Plus you have to take away their ability to wage war again and that's what they're doing going into Gaza because it's not you know it's not we don't have hospitals we have hospitals built on top.
of weaponry.
That's the stuff you have to get rid of.
It's like the Nazis.
You have to not only get rid of Hitler, you have to get rid of Nazis, you have to get rid of Nazism.
You have to take away their ability to ever wage war again.
That's the only moral outcome.
ian crossland
I thought that it is important to remove the Nazism from the Nazis so you have normal people again, basically.
So killing the individuals isn't always the way to get rid of an ideology.
And my concern with trying to eradicate Hamas is the blowback.
They're killing a lot of innocent people that will then grow up to become even worse terrorizers of the system than the current ones is my fear.
And then that will leave Israel no more justification other than to say, we need to eradicate everyone there because otherwise it will never stop.
And that's like the slippery slope I see in the future I want to avoid.
unidentified
Well, I think he's underselling it because it's not only that they start this war, but they started the war and then refused to fight it.
They attacked and then hid among the civilian population.
And as far as the blowback, if this organization that is the leadership already says, we're committed to wiping you off the face of the earth, like the idea that like, oh, well, just imagine what happens if you make them angry.
That's already their mission now.
They're already at the end point.
So yeah, you do have a problem, but the fact is, right now they control the education system.
Right now they're breeding or trying to raise these kids into the next generation of soldiers to fight the Israelis.
So, like, you have to get rid of that.
And like, you know, the Nazi example, we did do policies of, like, denazification.
You had to take that stuff out of the education stuff.
A lot of stuff that we would consider very anti-American was done in Europe, where they banned being in Nazi parties and denying the Holocaust and all that, because that's how extreme that rooted ideology was in Europe.
So it's a similar kind of thing.
But again, it's not that they just started the war.
It's that they didn't fight it.
They were like, OK, we attacked.
Now we're going to hide and then wait for the media to say, look at how bad you are at finding us.
And the other point I would make is that we've tried it your way.
Israel's tried it your way for decades and they got October 7th.
So that way doesn't work because you cannot do business with savages.
And that's what Hamas is.
I'm not talking about Gazans.
I'm not talking about Arabs.
Hamas is savages and they need to be exterminated because if you don't exterminate them, it's going to happen again.
ian crossland
So you're saying the two-party solution?
Was that when you said the vision I'm looking for, is that like a two-party solution?
unidentified
No, when you say... Like the two-state solution?
ian crossland
Two-state solution, that's what I mean.
unidentified
No, not the two-state solution, but the idea that, oh, we got to back off, or do a ceasefire, or worrying about, or what you said about worrying about it creating hate.
Israel has done everything.
They removed themselves from Gaza in 2005.
They gave the Gazans incredible land that they could have turned into another Miami.
libby emmons
That was part of the plan.
That was part of like the Jared Kushner concept.
unidentified
And what did they do?
So they tried to do what you're suggesting, and what they got was October 7th.
ian crossland
But if they were given the opportunity to build a great city, but then they were under a blockade, like walled in and under a blockade?
unidentified
They got billions of dollars.
I mean, compared to them, the Gazans per capita get more money than Americans do.
More money than any other aid people in the world.
ian crossland
But they were being blockaded?
unidentified
I don't know exactly what was being blockaded, but they were able to build an awful lot of stuff there, including incredible tunnels.
If they can build a tunnel, why can't they build a resort?
tim pool
Hamas posted the video of turning water pipes into rockets.
libby emmons
Yeah, they did.
tim pool
Whether they actually were doing that or it was propaganda, that was their propaganda.
unidentified
Sounds like something that someone would do in that situation, you know?
ian crossland
You have no money, if you feel like you're being annihilated, you just use your...
Basic weapons, you know.
unidentified
No one was annihilated.
No one's in there.
No one's bothering them.
If Gaza and Hamas disarm tomorrow, There would be peace.
If Israel disarmed tomorrow, Gaza would exterminate them within two weeks.
ian crossland
What if everybody was armed?
libby emmons
I'm seeing that the UN spent $600 million on Gaza in 2020.
How much?
tim pool
$600 million?
libby emmons
How much? 600 million? 600 million. And just in 2020 alone and has given, gave 4.5 billion between 2014 and 2020.
unidentified
I've asked a lot of people about... And that's just the UN.
tim pool
Like, what would happen?
And, you know, usually when I ask, like, what would happen if, you know, like, Hamas surrendered?
And they'd be like, the war's over.
And I'd be like, and then what?
And Gaza goes on as it is.
And I'm like, with the walls and everything?
Like, yeah, of course.
And then whatever, they can do whatever they want.
And I said, okay, what would happen if Israel said, we're tearing the walls down, Palestinians have free reign to move in and around Israel, you're not all welcome?
And I've never gotten a straight answer because I think even the people who are who are critical of Israel or even as I would call it Israel deranged understand what happens if Israel takes the walls down and says all of Gaza please feel free to you get October 7th.
libby emmons
Well there were a lot of a lot of the like I remember the October 7th there were a lot of the workers who had passes to work in Israel were among those who were Committing the atrocities on that day, so they had you know already had access to Israel, and they were coming in to do that It's kind of crazy.
tim pool
I don't think that this whatever this is There's no easy answer my position is typically the America first one of just like I don't know about the moral questions here, man I don't know why we're involved And I know, I understand Ben Shapiro's argument about a U.S.
ally in the region, the risks of rapid escalation if Israel goes, what do they call it, the Samson option?
And how the U.S.
needs to have a strong presence in controlling things to prevent the expansion into a massive World War III.
And I'm just like, I understand that.
My view more so is the U.S.
is driving itself into World War III in a variety of different areas, particularly with Ukraine.
I don't see how our involvement is improving anything.
unidentified
You're concerned about Ukraine, I share, completely.
But the Hamas's charter is wipe out Israel and then wipe out all the Jews, including American Jews.
tim pool
Well, they did change it.
They took that part about wiping out the Jews a few years ago.
Just recently.
unidentified
Oh, really?
Well, I believe them.
Well, I feel better then.
tim pool
And this is the crazy thing.
I believe it's in the Hadith that the line says, oh, oh, oh, you know, the tree says there's a Jew hiding behind me or something.
And that was in the Hamas charter only until recently.
So my point is... I feel better.
Right, exactly.
I don't believe it.
unidentified
It was a PR move.
It was a PR move.
And I'm not accusing you of this, but it was a PR move so that someone could make the argument you just made.
Why are we there?
Why are we helping them?
They're very good at PR.
tim pool
People have made that argument to me.
They're like, no, that's not in the charter anymore.
I'm like, oh, come on.
ian crossland
So what I've heard is that the PLO, the Palestinian Liberation Organization, which was Yasser Arafat's Palestinian government in the late 1900s or 1990s, you know, up to relatively recently, that I heard that I think the Israelis were involved with breaking them apart because they controlled the West Bank and Gaza, and it made it look like they're really going to get a two-state solution.
We don't want that.
We want the territory, so let's create a new government.
We'll call it Hamas that can rule over in Gaza while the PLO can have the West Bank.
Now we have two disparate factions fighting each other, easy pickings, and they're villains so that when they attack us we can use it as a false flag.
unidentified
You know, if someone stole my land, Right.
If someone came in and wiped out my family and stole my land, I would not sentence my descendants to generations of hate and despair and poverty.
You move on.
tim pool
In fact, most places in the world have done that.
unidentified
That's exactly right.
You move on.
But what they have done, what Hamas has done to the Gazans and what Arafat did was sentence these people Innocent people to generations of poverty and hate and vengeance and he destroyed their lives and Hamas is destroying their lives and it doesn't matter what happened in the past just move on.
ian crossland
I figured it out right of return.
tim pool
Casinos in the Gaza Strip.
unidentified
They can't gamble.
tim pool
I know.
I'm kidding.
My point is, I talk about this because Native Americans, for instance, in the United States, they're never going to reconquer the United States.
They've won lawsuits.
That's what you do.
They've set up casinos.
It was masterful.
I was reading about, I believe, a Hard Rock Seminole is what started the wave of Indian casinos.
It was in the seventies.
They had a bingo hall.
The state said gambling is illegal.
You can't do this.
They said, you don't regulate us.
We're federal under the treaties.
Federal government said, You're damn right, we have jurisdiction here, because the federal government's not going to give up jurisdiction if they can keep it.
They said, no, no, no, they're right.
So they answer to us.
And the Native Americans were like, we got a good deal for the federal government, tax money.
And then they were like, let's roll.
And then Indian casinos popped up all over the place.
And now you've got these extremely wealthy tribes that have found a way to succeed through the history that has been bad.
unidentified
And I have, I have no, if anyone who looks at the history of what happened to the American Indian in this country, it's indefensible.
And I have nothing but sympathy and empathy for that.
A lot more than I have for what's happening in Israel.
And I agree with you 100%.
They have arisen above it.
tim pool
On the Native American thing, I think it's important to question... It wasn't a monolith.
What happened to Native Americans wasn't... I wouldn't say European colonists arriving into North America is 100% the cause of all strife and all calamity for all Native Americans.
So I wouldn't necessarily say it's indefensible.
I'm like, certainly there are many instances where, you know, Native Americans went and killed a bunch of colonists for no reason and things like that had happened.
unidentified
It was inevitable and indefensible.
That's the way I would put it.
It was a shame.
tim pool
I think there were things there about like the Trail of Tears and things like that are indefensible.
And this is war.
The history of humanity has been conquest, I think, through moral philosophy, but mostly through abundance.
Through technological advancement, we've come to the point where we're like, okay, now we don't really need to be stealing land from each other because we're all pretty much too fat as it is.
Not everyone in the world, but particularly in the United States and in the developed world, we got so much resources that these things are starting to chill out.
libby emmons
Well, obesity is now a condition of poverty.
tim pool
It's crazy!
So look, we see this in the animal kingdom.
Predators that are well-fed don't bother killing prey.
It's a risk.
So if you've got a lion that's gonna go fight a gazelle or something, there's a risk of death in doing that, but it needs to, it needs to survive.
When you take these animals and put them in captivity and keep them well-fed, there still is instinct, so it does happen, but you'll see these videos where it's like a lion sitting and snuggling with a chicken or something, because there's no reason to fight.
unidentified
He's not hungry.
tim pool
So that's where we're going.
And I like these things.
Now we're looking at other parts of the world that ideologically are driven towards fighting for,
unidentified
look, honor.
tim pool
I guess?
Like, that is our land, our family was there a hundred years ago, so we're gonna just fight forever.
And it's a tough question because I believe honor does matter.
I mean, we're facing an invasion on our southern border.
You've got the black community in Chicago screaming that they're being replaced.
Did you hear this?
The black community has some kind of replacement theory that they believe is happening.
unidentified
Isn't that racist?
I'm told that's racist.
ian crossland
Turns out it's just grape.
unidentified
Not when they say it.
tim pool
Well, that's what they've been saying.
And obviously I'm being a little facetious, but the black community in Chicago has actually
gone to meetings yelling, you're replacing us because they're bringing these, these,
these people in.
I think it's fair to be like, Hey, we have morals, we have traditions, we have values
we don't want to lose.
So we should control immigration.
But there's a question of, do you leave New York?
Do you leave Chicago?
Do you leave California?
Find a better life.
I think there is a good argument for, find where you can thrive, make money, have a family, and then win financially, and let the people who have the bad ideas fail, and then over time you end up winning.
But many people have said, no, you can't give up these cities to the far left.
So there is an interesting conundrum in, would you actually give up your land if someone came to take it from you?
Versus, I see your point, it's been, what, 70-something years?
unidentified
Yeah, it's crazy.
tim pool
And at this point, maybe your best opportunity is build success and wealth.
ian crossland
But if my dad was like, you know, your grandma's house, my whole life since I was a kid, if he was like, that guy that lives there, he stole that from your grandma 35 years, 47 years ago, I'd be so pissed.
I would be so pissed.
And a dude was just living in my grandma's house and she had nothing.
Like, I would be so mad.
libby emmons
Why doesn't anyone ever get mad at you?
unidentified
Would you go try to kill that guy?
ian crossland
If you ask me that now, I would say no.
But if you stick me in Gaza for 20 years, I don't know.
libby emmons
But why does no one ever get mad at Egypt?
I mean, there's three crossings into Gaza.
There's two from Israel and one from Egypt.
Egypt supports this blockade fully.
They are fully complicit and happy about it.
And you have also other nations in the region.
You have, you know, there's all these Palestinian refugees.
Other nations in the region are refusing to take them in.
So what's going on with that?
Why is it that this group of people are so unpalatable to the rest of the people in the region?
It's not just Israel who comes against these people.
Do you know what I mean?
unidentified
It's the strategy.
All of these nations have made a pact that they weren't going to take them as citizens because they want a perpetual refugee population there, a stateless group of people, because they want them to go into Israel.
It's all politics.
They could take these people and I know like there have been problems when you import a mass of them that they don't think the government's radical enough.
This happened like where they try to assassinate the king of Jordan.
But the fact of the matter is they were citizens of Jordan.
Like there was no Palestine that Israel took over and they were citizens of Egypt.
But like, the plan, and all the Arab states are basically aligned on this, is to keep them there, have them be stateless people, because eventually, like, in my opinion, it will work.
Like, I'm actually pretty doomer on, like, the future of Israel because public pressure's already turning against them.
You can get attacked.
It's the greatest terrorist attack in your history.
Proportionally one of the worst in the world compared to their population.
And public opinion is, like, not on their side.
And they're only losing ground.
Well, here, right?
libby emmons
Public opinion where?
Here?
unidentified
Even here, it's low.
But, like, worldwide?
I mean, now, granted, there's, like, 55 countries with built-in animosity for the jump.
But, yeah, they're losing public opinion on the world stage.
So this is the design.
This is the plan.
And I think back when the 67 War happened, And they actually expanded into this territory.
They should have sent the people there.
Because what happened when to the Jewish populations in all these other countries?
They were removed from their countries and they had to go to Israel.
tim pool
I think the important thing people need to understand about war is that you're not making any moral arguments.
It's never going to happen.
There is no circumstance where you say, hey Israel, what you did was wrong and unjust.
Their response is going to be, We're at war, have a nice day.
ian crossland
I think repopulation violates the Geneva Convention.
unidentified
Oh, it does, but it's one of those things that now, it sounds super horrible, but Germany is a state for Germanic people.
Italy is a state for Italian people.
Different ethnic groups have separated to form their own states throughout all of human history.
I mean, Austria, Hungary, two separate ethnic groups, they split off into two different countries.
If you can't get along, if two groups can't get along, Like one of the, your option is to form your own countries.
This is what the Kurds have been trying to do forever.
tim pool
Are you suggesting we should have a national divorce?
unidentified
In America?
I don't think so necessarily in America.
ian crossland
One of the things I think about right of return, because we're talking about like repopulation going, is like you were saying earlier, John, I kind of agree with you, both you and Tim, that just because my parents owned a house, I'm born, I don't have a right to that house.
So what is this right of return for?
tim pool
So let's play a game.
Your grandpa goes to you and he says, son, 75 years ago, your great-grandfather lived in that house.
And that guy who's in there, his great-grandfather came in with a gun, pointed at us, and kicked us out, and now we don't have it anymore.
You need to get it back.
So then you get your buddies together, and you go to the house, and you bang on the door, and you're like, give me back my house!
And the guy goes, who are you?
And you're like, my great-grandfather owned this house, but your great-grandfather stole it from him.
And then he goes, what?
Your great-grandfather wasn't even here!
There was no one in this house!
I came here, your grandfather was across the street!
And you're gonna be like, that's not what my great-grandfather said!
And I'm sitting here as like an adjudicator being like, yo, Yeah, I don't like that it belonged to my ancestors, so now it belongs to me.
ian crossland
I don't like that.
tim pool
No, no, no, that's not what I'm saying.
You don't know.
You've got the pro-Israel side saying that's not true, and the pro-Palestine saying, pro-Palestine says it's our land, we can prove it.
Pro-Israel side says no, it's not, we can prove it.
And then the United States is stupid, in my opinion, for being involved in a dispute that has no, like, you're not, you can't solve.
ian crossland
I think that trying to build Israel there, because that's the place that they were 2,000 years ago, is like the Palestinians saying, I want my house back.
tim pool
My point is, you are operating under the assertion it actually was their land, which is disputed by the opposing faction.
I am not Israel or Palestine, I am the United States, and I say, I don't see why we're involved in their dispute over this.
unidentified
I would just take your metaphor even further.
Look at what you were talking about, the strategy.
If you care about the people in that area, they're the ones that are suffering because of that bullshit and because of the strategy that he's talking about.
It is the Gazans, the civilians, they are the ones generationally being abused by Egypt and the Palestinians and Hamas.
They're the ones doing the suffering.
Israel's doing pretty good.
You know, they built a little paradise over there.
I know October 7th happened.
But the true victim of all this are the people that are being kept in poverty and are being taught to hate and vengeance and are being told, you need to go get your grandfather's house.
That's your identity.
tim pool
Go get your grandfather's And now here's another thing, too.
Ben and Jerry's came out and they were like, we should, you know, the United States is on stolen land, we should give it back.
And then some Native Americans were like- Your factory is on stolen land.
We should give it back.
And they were like, wait, no, we don't want to do that.
Not for us.
But think about the United States.
There are Native Americans who are worth hundreds of millions of dollars or millions of dollars, wildly successful.
There is this, like, after a long period of time, I don't think the answer is, For wealthy and successful Native Americans who have made a good life to be like, okay, now I'm going to go physically fight to take the Ben and Jerry's factory.
ian crossland
They were bought, a lot of those chiefs were bought out in the process of the colonization, so they were very wealthy.
They weren't like the slaves.
tim pool
My point is, you're better off living on barren land than fighting in a war.
unidentified
Yeah, just go do your own thing.
Just let it go and do your own thing.
That's the key to a good life.
And the other thing about this whole colonized land.
That Indian tribe that said that they owned the Ben and Jerry's land, maybe they did.
But you go back in time, they stole it from someone.
Yeah.
And then they stole it from someone.
So who do you give it to?
Do you look for someone who's part of a cave?
libby emmons
Well, humanity has a history of conquest and energy.
tim pool
Have you ever seen the viral video?
It's called, like, This Land is My Land, God Gave This Land to Me.
It went viral, like, 14 years ago.
And it's a song where they're singing, This Land is My Land, and it basically just shows an animation of every different group that has taken... So who do you give it to?
What do they call the region?
What's the proper term?
libby emmons
The Levant.
tim pool
The Levant, is it?
Like, they showed all the different factions that had taken it and lost it and taken it and lost it.
ian crossland
You go so far back.
I don't even know, does the video go back all the way to the Canaanites before the Israelite even existed?
Like the Canaanites?
tim pool
But this is the problem with, it is my ancestral land argument.
It's funny because what they're doing right now is they're saying Vladimir Putin is evil.
He's just like Hitler.
He's not going to stop at Ukraine.
He thinks Ukraine is his.
And then you go, well 70 years ago Ukraine was Soviet Union.
And then you ask the same exact people, now what about the Palestinians who want to take back what they claim is theirs in Israel, because that used to
be their land.
Well, but they're the oppressed. It's okay if the oppressed want to
attack someone else to take land they think is theirs, but if you're an
oppressor, you can't take attack land.
unidentified
And that dumb argument, the oppressor oppressed, has removed
all logic, all facts, all history, and all morality from the argument.
tim pool
This is the funny thing.
ian crossland
There's a justification of war that you can use.
tim pool
So let me ask you a question.
Do you agree with or sympathize?
Let's assume...
The land in Israel that Palestinians claim is theirs is there, just for the sake of argument.
Do you sympathize with them and believe they have a right to take it back?
ian crossland
I don't think they have a right.
Oh God, I've never been there.
I don't know what the conditions are really like.
But like you said, oppressed people that are overthrowing tyranny can maybe make a claim for a just war.
People that have all the control that are stomping out powerless civilians do not have a justification for that, in my opinion.
tim pool
So you would go with the critical theory on because Israel is stronger, they don't have a right to defend themselves or what?
ian crossland
No, no, they do have a right to defend themselves, always, always, always.
But is the war declaration justified of them taking their houses back?
I don't know, man.
I don't think so.
What is it, the UN said that Israel's in violation of international law with the occupation?
I don't know if that really is the right to attack and kill?
unidentified
That's as it pertains to Gaza or the West Bank.
I'll answer it.
I think there was a period of time where the land's in dispute.
People fight over land historically, and they should fight.
But what I'm annoyed by is, like, if you lose the war, you lost the war.
Like, you know, it's sad what happened to the natives.
I will say there are wealthy natives, but they are poorer on average than most groups in the United States, so they still are suffering.
We should have assimilated them into the population like some of the founders wanted to.
Unfortunately, others won out on that.
But for the Palestinian cause, yeah, they fought the wars multiple times.
They did not win.
So there's this weird thing where it's like, in this specific conflict, and this is why I hate the ceasefire talk, because if ceasefires worked, this would be the most peaceful place on planet Earth.
The problem that we have here is that throughout most of human history, when you started a war, you knew that if you lost, you were going to be annihilated.
So you were very cautious about starting wars.
What we do when we're like, when we're constantly police this action or that action or try to get them to use the least amount of force possible is we just sow the seeds for the second conflict and we lower the barrier or that we lower the consequences for initiating force against another country.
Like in Japan, like we were like, okay, you're going to bomb Pearl Harbor, but you're going to feel the full force of the United States of America.
You're never going to do this again.
Yeah, in Germany.
tim pool
And we occupied them since then.
unidentified
And Germany, they declared war on us.
They didn't actually attack us in Pearl Harbor.
For no reason, they decided they were going to declare war on us.
tim pool
And it's like, okay, here's a question.
unidentified
Actually, we declared war on Germany when their submarines sunk one of our ships.
tim pool
I got a question for you guys.
What started World War II?
ian crossland
Hitler's invasion of Poland, I believe.
tim pool
Why did Hitler invade Poland?
ian crossland
To get land back that used to be Germany, according to him.
tim pool
Was it Danzig?
ian crossland
I think it is.
Yeah, you brought that up anyway a couple weeks ago.
tim pool
Tucker Carlson brought that up.
unidentified
Okay, so Danzig.
tim pool
We only commented on what he was talking about.
ian crossland
It was more than just Danzig, I think, but it was a big city.
tim pool
And what happened was, after World War I, Germany... What was the Treaty of Versailles?
unidentified
The Treaty of Versailles, right.
ian crossland
Versailles and Versailles, Paris.
unidentified
And impoverished Germany.
tim pool
Right, took a bunch of their land, stripped it away, gave it authority.
Made them pay all the debts of all the other countries.
So you have this country with hyperinflation, the Weimar Republic is struggling, and what happens?
Hitler, who was deranged, utilized the anger these people felt weaponized it in stupid ways, obviously, and psychotic and
deadly ways. But it was very much, oh, hey, I get to start a war because that lands
historically ours, and we have a right to it.
And that was his, he said that city was historically Germany, give it back. Poland said no.
ian crossland
He said, okay, declared war. Yeah, it was more too. I've heard that they were, they were the
people in Danzig that were considered the social Germans were being genocided by the new Polish
government. They wanted the city for Poland. And Hitler was like, oh, God, those are Germans.
unidentified
And by the way, there, there is a lot of truth to Eastern European cities being set up by the
Germans like that, that actually is like historically accurate, but that doesn't necessarily mean you
could invade that territory. But I'm going to nerd out and say Japan started World War Two because
they were invading countries in Asia before that. Right.
ian crossland
Absolutely. They were super aggro.
tim pool
But I mean, like, like what, what, what triggered, I say, Muslim.
ian crossland
I say Mussolini started World War I. Mussolini's invasion of East Africa gave Hitler the casus belli.
tim pool
Yo, it's wild.
Like, World War II was, like, legit all over the place.
It was in Africa.
It was everywhere.
unidentified
It was like a world war.
tim pool
Yes, right.
unidentified
Now that you mention it, did Antarctica see a lot of action?
tim pool
This is my thing.
Like, they say Putin wants to take back Ukraine, and it's because Ukraine was historically Russia, so he thinks there's a right to it.
And I'm like, so the Palestinians don't have a right to Israel?
ian crossland
Israeli state, are they not saying they have a right to the territory?
The Israeli state, I believe the claim of what you want to call an occupation or whatever you want to call it, is that they have a right to the territory.
It's the same thing Putin's saying about Ukraine that the Germans said about Poland.
libby emmons
The other question is where are the Jews supposed to go?
Like, where are they supposed to go in the world?
ian crossland
I live with them amongst us.
I don't even know who's Jewish and who's not.
tim pool
I don't even want to say Jewish because there's other people who live in Israel.
libby emmons
Sure.
Where are the Israelis supposed to go if the Palestinians have their way into the river to the sea?
tim pool
To the sea.
libby emmons
And from the river to the sea becomes, you know, from the Jordan River all the way to the, you know, Mediterranean.
unidentified
Right.
libby emmons
They want them to go to the sea.
ian crossland
Yes.
libby emmons
So where are they supposed to go?
ian crossland
You mean if I make such a groundbreaking argument that they actually declare peace?
Like, where are they going to go?
libby emmons
Well, I don't think, yeah, I mean, do you think, I don't think that Hamas has any intention of having a peaceful situation with Israel.
Like at this point, the Palestinians would need to have a completely new leadership structure and you have the Palestinian Authority making deals with, you know, having like backroom conversations or whatever with Hamas.
Because together, like, if they unified, then there's an even bigger problem for Israel.
But Israel removed all of the settlements, all of the Israeli settlements from Gaza in like 2005.
We're like, OK, have your have your spot, you know, and we're going to go over here.
We're going to maintain really secure borders because I know that you have a lot of terrorists.
But it was only after Biden got elected that, according to like the Wall Street Journal reporting, It was after Biden got elected that Hamas started making these plans to do this invasion.
And it's pretty interesting, I think, that timing, because Donald Trump doesn't have, you know, Donald Trump is like the crazy homeless guy on the corner with a knife.
You're going to back away, right?
Like, one thing I really liked about Donald Trump is, like, he was pretty clear, if you come after the U.S., if you come after our allies, we're just going to destroy you, is what's going to happen.
Like, we're going to have a disproportionate response.
And as an American, if my country's under threat, I want a president who's going to be no-holds-barred about a response.
I don't want a proportionate response if you attack America.
I don't want that to be proportionate.
I don't want to mess around with you so that maybe you keep chucking bombs at us or whatever.
You know what I mean?
unidentified
Plus that's the best way to keep peace.
libby emmons
And it's a good way to keep peace.
If you want peace, scare the hell out of the other guy.
Talk quietly, carry a big stick.
tim pool
What was that Trump quote?
He's like on the voicemail and he's like...
I told Xi and Putin that if they, if he took Taiwan or he took Ukraine, I'd nuke Moscow or Beijing.
libby emmons
I love this!
tim pool
And he was like, I don't know if they believed me, but maybe 5%.
Exactly!
libby emmons
Like, just believe him a little bit, and then suddenly we're gonna have some peace.
We had peace in Israel, and one thing that Hamas definitely doesn't want, and the hardline Islamists don't want, they don't want Saudi Arabia and the UAE having any kind of normalized relations with Israel.
And I think a lot of this is about messing up that kind of diplomacy.
tim pool
Look, take everything Democrats have said about Trump, completely at face value and true, and now be a foreign leader.
unidentified
And he comes up to you and he's like, if you take Ukraine, I'll nuke Moscow.
tim pool
And you're like, that's great.
unidentified
Is this guy for real?
tim pool
What do I do?
Have you seen the reports about this guy?
libby emmons
He's nuts!
That's a thing that I like about Trump.
He keeps peace by, you know, and he kept peace in the United States by just, like, appearing like he could do anything.
unidentified
You never knew.
libby emmons
And I like that.
I like that in a president.
Biden, it's like, oh, you know, if you blow up New York, Biden's gonna be like, oh, I'm sorry, did we do something to offend you?
unidentified
Yeah, let's be proportional.
Do you need more gay stuff?
But the answer to your question, where would the Jews go?
That was the whole point of creating Israel.
Because they had no place to go after the Holocaust.
They had been destroyed.
It wasn't just what the Nazis did to them.
It's what all of Europe did to them.
It's what Russia did to them with the pogroms.
So they went back to their homeland, which they feel they have a claim on going back to the Book of Moses 4,000 years ago.
libby emmons
Well, and it's kind of convenient, too, to put Israel there, right in harm's way.
It's convenient for Europe and for the United States, you know?
Because then Israel takes all the slings and arrows, and we're just over here like, yeah, we can give you, we'll write you a check.
tim pool
I certainly think there's a very large religious component to it as well.
unidentified
Oh yeah, definitely.
tim pool
With the, you know, the Red Heifer stuff and the eschatology or whatever.
Those are fascinating conversations, but there absolutely are people who believe it.
I'm not saying the government believes it.
The conversations I've had with the very anti-Israel Uh, faction.
These people say they don't think Israel really believes the deep religious stuff and the Second Coming or anything like that, but there are powerful political forces within Israel and outside of Israel that are Christian or Jewish that certainly believe that they've gotta, you know, take the heifer, sacrifice it and all that stuff or whatever that is.
I don't know.
ian crossland
Yeah, realistically, I would say that Jewish people could live wherever they want on Earth, wherever is safe and enjoyable, like United States.
My best friends have been Jewish throughout life, and I didn't even know, I don't know what that means.
It's no different than Christian in my mind.
But they weren't hardcore practicing, and I understand why they would want a community of people that shut everything down on Saturday, and everyone's cool with it.
libby emmons
I kind of miss when stuff got shut down on Sundays.
When I grew up in Massachusetts, stuff would be closed on Sundays.
ian crossland
What religion?
libby emmons
You kind of, like, had to take a break.
Christianity, you know, you close the Sundays, the Sabbath day.
unidentified
Chick-fil-A.
Everybody was Chick-fil-A.
libby emmons
Yeah, everybody was Chick-fil-A.
But, like, you'd go into stores and you couldn't buy... In Massachusetts, they had blue laws.
I don't know if they still do.
But, like, you couldn't buy liquor on Sunday.
unidentified
They have that where I live.
I think not till noon or something.
libby emmons
In Pennsylvania, I think the state stores are closed.
tim pool
You can't buy cars, I'm pretty sure, in Virginia on Sunday.
ian crossland
Oh my gosh.
New demonic technology when they wrote that law in 1911 or whatever.
tim pool
You can't have the stores open on Sunday.
ian crossland
And I don't know when they made the law, I'm just saying.
unidentified
But to your point about they could live in the United States, that's the second most Jewish populated country in the world, the United States.
But the idea is minority populations historically, or distinct ethnic groups, find their own state.
And, like, for the Jewish people, it makes sense.
Like, all their things are there.
Like, you know, all the things in their book, that's, like, down the street.
Now, if they formed a nation, like, let's say they lost the war, and they had to be pushed off, and they had to form a nation on, like, an island somewhere, and they went with that, I'd be like, fine, like, you know, you lost, I'm sorry that all your, like, religious texts, like, items and places are all in that location, but they ended up winning the war, so.
tim pool
So, do you think it's okay for an ethnic group to find and create their own state?
unidentified
I think it's the history of the world.
People form their states based on ethnic origin or shared religion or something shared.
libby emmons
Like Taiwan.
unidentified
Like anywhere.
ian crossland
Like France.
unidentified
That's an ideology, actually.
tim pool
Like of an ethnostate.
Like the purpose of their government is to protect their people.
unidentified
I think to the United States becoming an ethnostate, I think that's a pipe dream that people don't... I'm just claiming.
clarified but most countries in the history of the world are ethnic or
ethnostates like it's just a fact or religion or shared religion. Right so so
tim pool
you would say yes. Yes a hundred percent. But what so the question is about Europe.
unidentified
Yeah I think Germany Look, Germany should be for German people.
When Otto von Bismarck united Germany into one state in the 1800s, the reason they did that is because Germanic people needed their own state.
They had cities in Eastern Europe that they had put together, and the native population didn't like the German elite in those cities.
Also in the 1800s, the first time Italian unification happened, it was about having a state for Italian people.
This is the history of the world.
So 100% of my favorite.
tim pool
France for the French, Italy for the Italian.
ian crossland
The thing about Israel though, Israel I agree a lot of ways like that is how societies form culturally over time you develop an ethnic state and then you make a state out of it or whatever.
But the Jewish state got built by a law.
It wasn't like naturally over time for thousands of years.
They got placed there in 1917 or some ridiculous like they just all of a sudden it just appeared and all this new ethnicity appeared there and they're like this is our land.
And anyone else that's not this ethnicity might have a problem with that.
And that's like, so forcing an ethnic state might be a different argument.
unidentified
A lot of ethnic states were created in the immediate aftermath of World War II.
Like Pakistan was created, was actually cut off from India, and then there was actually East and West Pakistan, which one became Bangladesh.
But yeah, it was created suddenly, and like the lead up was, and there was a Jewish presence, but if you look at the Ottoman records, they kept it very low, like 5,000 Jewish people in that territory.
But over time, after the Ottoman Empire fell, they started buying up land, establishing a presence, the British ended up receiving that territory after World War I when the Ottoman Empire fell, prize of war, and they promised, they actually promised two states, one for the soon-to-be-called Palestinian population, One for the soon-to-be-called Israeli population.
And, you know, they didn't really deliver on that.
I believe there was an assassination of a British official, I forgot, by a Jewish terrorist that assassinated him.
And the Brits were like, alright, we're out of here, you figure it out.
Or they turned it over to the UN.
They have a war, what is now Israel won, and it is what it is.
ian crossland
That's one way to put it.
It is what it is.
But I mean, are you, are you satisfied with what it is?
Sometimes I'm not satisfied and there's better ways that it can be.
unidentified
I mean, I could be satisfied, but like I can be satisfied or not satisfied, but it doesn't matter.
Like states form on ethnic or religious grounds.
Like the Jewish people, both ethnically and religiously have formed in this location as their state.
The challenges to their statehood being wars were lost.
So like it exists.
Like, so once you've already been established, like that's it, you're a country.
ian crossland
Yeah, and I should actually point out in case people are wondering, I've never asked to dissolute Israel in any form.
I love Jew, Jewish, everything about God is like what I'm into right now.
Like, a true Jew, I mean, that is like the essence of our Abrahamic faith.
That's where it comes from.
unidentified
the same thing if it was the Kurds, a historic group that has been stateless, that has experienced
oppression. The Armenians, I believe they reformed their state in the 90s, right? I
believe it was that recent. They faced oppression from the Turks, and I believe they were, they
might have been under the Soviet Union, but I could be wrong about that. Yeah, and a bunch
of states formed after the Soviet Union fell, brand new states, but ethnicities.
ian crossland
Ukraine being one of them.
unidentified
Yeah. So I would be, it's just how the world tends to work, historically.
And I think if they reshaped Iraq and Syria into a Sunni, Shia, and Kurdish, like, three separate states, that would also be a solid plan.
ian crossland
Who is they?
unidentified
Well, I'm just saying, if they separate it all... Who is they, though?
ian crossland
Who is they, though?
unidentified
We all know.
No, but like, if those groups can't live together and they separate, like, that's what happens.
Like, we live in a very American context where we're like, I live in New York City, Italian neighborhood, you know, or German signs, like in Astoria, Queens, like you see Steinway, it's a German sign.
It's literally the most diverse place on planet Earth.
When they did the human genome study, they did it right there because you have 170 plus languages.
That's beautiful.
That's something that can work in the United States of America.
They can't work with two different religions in Israel and Gaza over there.
tim pool
You think mass diversity, multiculturalism like that in New York, you said?
unidentified
Yeah, I said in the story.
You have all these people living together, perfectly fine.
There's some problems, but it's relatively fine by comparison.
libby emmons
The story is pretty cool.
ian crossland
That's where I had my first gyro, I think.
unidentified
In an American context.
And you probably had it on a German named street because it used to be a German named street.
ian crossland
I lived near Steinway.
I lived on 33rd.
unidentified
So, like, that can work, and we all expect that to work, and we think that our context in America can be applied over the history of the world, but let's not be dishonest about it.
We had conflict with the natives, conflict with black Americans, conflict amongst different European ethnic groups, and over time we were able to work that out.
These people are in their conflict phase, and it's greater than what we experienced.
They're, like, constantly at war.
We never had, like, an actual race war in the United States of America.
ian crossland
We had a civil war.
unidentified
We had a civil war instead.
ian crossland
Do you think Israel's gonna have a civil war?
unidentified
Inside Israel, no, but like with these, if they were to merge the countries, like, you know, absorb the population, these one staters who just want the Arabs to have the majority so that they can vote to kill the Jews.
Right.
If they were to do that, that would lead to a civil war, which is what happened to start Israel.
Like that territory, that was what that was.
They just weren't a nation yet.
ian crossland
With our, with our comeuppance is our, this a nation that's given us the groundwork and stability to host 180 different cultures or whatever you were talking about in one city.
Like we fought a civil war and It ended up with putting a ton of power in the central authority and the federal government after that.
Abraham Lincoln just seized control and basically that was the end of the republic.
If you want to ask some of the greatest minds, or at least there's one guy who said that.
I kind of agree.
The Civil War, it was like, we can't do this republic anymore.
It's not working.
We need a central authority.
It's too big to have a republic, is what they thought.
And it's yet to be disproven because we're still together.
But do countries need that in order to support this forced integration?
libby emmons
One of the things that I take a lot from Israel is Israel established itself as a nation.
It hadn't been a nation previously, right?
It also – I forget the guy's name, but the guy who basically said, you know, Hebrew has not been a spoken language.
We're going to turn it into a spoken language.
And he said we're only going to speak Hebrew to our kids, and he resurrected Hebrew, right?
That's a really – that's a pretty fascinating thing.
He said this is our culture and we're going to make a place that our culture is.
And I look at America and we have – growing up, we all grew up in this country.
We had a really rich culture.
You could kind of understand it, right?
You knew like what the cultural norms were.
There was a lot of – there was Baseball there was apple pie cooling on the window so these were whether these were our homes or not these were some of the things that we look to we had this idea of what it would be when we grew up in this country we would be able to own a home you know if we wanted to do that we would be able to go west and pursue our dreams.
We'd be able to have families.
You know, we expected that the cultural infrastructure would exist to teach our children about our history, our language, our shared beliefs, our shared understanding, the social religion of kindness and generosity that basically exists regardless of what your religion is at home.
And then we have had the past, like, what, 30, 40 years of directly undermining that and cutting off our own culture at the knees and saying everything that America was built on is wrong.
So everything that exists in America is wrong and needs to be dismantled.
And I look at a country like Israel or like you're talking about ethnostates, and I think America doesn't have that.
And that's a good thing.
But why is it that we are destroying our culture and saying it's terrible and replacing it with something that, you know, has a morality like shifting sand where we can't stand on it?
We can't send our children to any schools and expect that they will even be educated in our own history.
Our institutions are no longer stewards of our culture.
They're no longer stewards of our history.
Like, why is it that we have so much to say about every other nation on Earth and what they're doing, you know, and how they're treating the their conflicts or whatever, when we have absolutely no interest in preserving or stewarding our country and keeping it whole.
We just let it totally crumble.
We just let it be attacked constantly.
I'm so sick of that.
unidentified
We used to have so much buy-in in America that people would not teach their children their native language from where they came from.
Correct.
Right.
Not because they wanted them to be uneducated.
libby emmons
This is my great-grandparents.
unidentified
But because they wanted them to speak English.
They wanted them to integrate into the country.
libby emmons
You couldn't say a bad thing about America to any of my great-grandparents.
And they were Italian, they were Norwegian, and then there were the Yankees.
unidentified
And they were the same.
And I think a second language is super valuable.
I wish I would have learned Spanish from my mother.
But that used to be the norm in America, German immigrants and throughout all of his,
Italian immigrants.
And it wasn't like you were losing it because you were being Americanized,
which is considered so negative.
It was you were choosing to make sure your children were American.
That is a special thing.
libby emmons
You wanted it.
You wanted your kids to be American.
unidentified
That's a special buy-in that we had in this country.
And I love America and I want other places to be more like it, but I have to deal with the practical reality that that's not the case.
I mean, Scotland and England, they're on the same island, Britain.
They've fought for over petty differences forever, and they're still, like, even though they're in one United Kingdom, they're still distinct peoples from one another, and they're as close as you can get to being the same.
So, like, this is just what people tend to do, and, like, you know, we've tried to move past it here, but it's not something that everywhere in the world is ready for, especially not in the Middle East, especially not in Israel and Gaza and, uh, what's the other one?
The West Bank.
I think that One of the great things about America though, because what you're saying is right, but we have 50 states and you can find what you're looking for if you move.
libby emmons
You can't necessarily it turns out.
unidentified
You can go to Wyoming.
You can always go to Wyoming.
You can always go to Texas.
libby emmons
I just left New York last year and I moved out here and I love it out here but I have not found what I grew up with.
unidentified
But I find if you, you know, in the cities things are bad because Democrats run the cities and there's division and they're removing merit.
They're ginning up the race issues, which we didn't have.
You know, when I grew up, you know, Oprah, Bill Cosby, Eddie Murphy, Richard Pryor, Prince, Michael Jackson, they were the biggest stars in the world.
I mean, now we've become very divided.
But the secret to America is that you just have to go Where things are normal, where there's sanity.
And that's the great thing about the country is that it's so huge.
It's so big.
And I think another good thing that's happening is the way that we're atomizing the culture.
Now that like this, what we're doing right here, this wasn't here 20 years ago.
It was ABC, CBS and NBC.
And now people can find their own culture and be a part of that like they did for 10,000, 100,000 years of human history until mass culture came along.
So the great thing about America, you have the states and it's so big and so vast that you can't hide from it.
And I've always said the Amish figured it out.
The Amish knew what they were doing.
They moved to the most rural parts of America and they unplugged from the mainframe and they held on to their culture.
libby emmons
They also moved to like one of the only places in the United States where you can actually grow cocaine.
You can like grow coca leaves there in Lancaster.
unidentified
That explains the work ethic.
ian crossland
Lancaster?
libby emmons
What state's that in?
It's in Pennsylvania.
ian crossland
Just asking for a friend.
I grew up by Amish.
libby emmons
Lancaster?
I don't know.
I'm not from there.
Lancaster instead of what Lancaster?
ian crossland
Sounds like how John Lennon would say it.
unidentified
Lancaster. I'm gonna go with Lancaster. It sounds more I grew up near the Amish. We used to make
libby emmons
fun of those people. I can say Worcester. I can say that.
ian crossland
Okay. Those guys. I knew some Amish people growing up and I would kind of just thought like, oh,
I feel so sad for them.
They're never going to get to play video games like me.
libby emmons
They have room springer.
They can do anything they want in room springer. What's room springer?
It's like your gap year from being Amish. You get to go live in the world.
unidentified
And check it out. Lancaster. Lancaster. Not Lancaster. Did you guys know the Amish are
really bad at solving murders? No. Their forensics are centuries behind.
No, they got to figure it out. You know, and that's what we can, that's what everybody can do.
That's the great thing about this country is that you can...
You can unplug, you can remove yourself and you can have your own culture.
You're not always going to be able to do that.
Eventually the Democrats are going to win the Supreme Court and it's all going to be over.
That's the beginning of the end.
libby emmons
Do you think they're going to pack the court?
unidentified
I don't think they're going to have to.
I think they're going to win enough elections.
And then as soon as the Supreme Court is left wing, America is over.
We're going to lose.
All they need is five justices and it's going to be over.
So, but I don't know.
Hopefully that won't happen in my lifetime.
I'm glad I'm 58 instead of 28.
ian crossland
Don't plant seeds of trees you don't want to see.
libby emmons
It's a good point, too.
ian crossland
I'm concerned with that, too, man.
I don't like putting that immense amount of power in the hands of 13 people.
That's ridiculous.
Or how many?
Nine.
libby emmons
Nine.
ian crossland
Or nine.
Nine dudes get to choose the fate of the... They're not all dudes.
Yeah, well, everybody's a dude in my mind, but I know what you mean.
But yeah, all these people, they're all cool dudes.
What's up, homies?
Nine people?
unidentified
Nah, man, we need at least term limits.
libby emmons
They're there to answer the unsolvable questions, right?
That's what their job is.
Hey, Congress passed this law, or my state passed this law, or this is a thing that happened.
Is it in line with the Constitution?
And their job is to say yes or no, it's not in line with the Constitution.
ian crossland
It turns out their job is to decide whether or not to answer the questions.
libby emmons
Well, they don't have to answer all the questions.
You can't answer all the questions.
Some of them they let the lower court's rulings stand and they say, no, we're not going to go with that one.
unidentified
But what you talked about is what's happening to the Supreme Court.
libby emmons
Right.
unidentified
All the standards, all the basic things that we agreed on, like what you talked about.
They're going away.
So you get a, what's your name?
Katenji Jackson-Brown.
libby emmons
Katenji Brown-Jackson.
unidentified
Yeah, Katenji.
She's who completely looks at rights, not from a human rights point of view, but from a racial point of view.
libby emmons
Yeah, she looks at it in the oppression hierarchy.
unidentified
Exactly.
So that's when the Supreme Court breaks down.
You get five of her, we're done.
Because she's going to rationalize every left-wing thing.
Take away the guns.
Once we lose the guns, it's over.
But in the meantime, think about the Amish.
They got it all figured out.
And we will lose on the Supreme Court because, you know, Republicans are 50-50 at best at appointing justices.
And like, you know, a constitutional or textualist philosophy, they'll say, oh, political, they'll use political questions doctrine to refuse to deal with something like that.
But as soon as they have a majority, they're going to press on all these issues.
Like, you know, Roe versus Wade.
Like, they invented a right to privacy and added abortion into the right of privacy.
Like, that's how we got that precedent.
libby emmons
Yeah, they made it up.
unidentified
And like that there's a bunch of different precedents where they're like, oh, well, you know, you have to adjust it.
Like, you know, Ruth Bader Ginsburg would say the Constitution is a living document.
It's like if you have a living Constitution, it might as well be dead.
Like we have an amendment process in order to make changes.
And now we've gotten to a time where we're talking about the country resting on which nine people are on the Supreme Court.
This was supposed to be the weakest branch of government.
And, like, it's now, like, arguably the strongest behind the presidency, which is a complete inversion of how it's supposed to be.
Like, it was supposed to be Congress, President, Court.
And then, like, we kind of flipped that, although the President's powerful.
In other regards, more powerful.
tim pool
Well, Congress is just dysfunctional.
ian crossland
Yeah, I was going to say they're the most powerful civil aspect of our government, the courts, but then I was like, well, Congress is civil, but they're not really.
But I didn't want to make that joke because I like those people, some of them.
tim pool
Some of them?
ian crossland
I mean, are they considered civilians?
People that serve in Congress?
unidentified
I would think so.
ian crossland
That's our civilian, but the executive branch is not civilian.
tim pool
We call it a civilian government.
ian crossland
Yeah, yeah, because the commander is supposed to be a civilian in that role of the commander of the military for the time.
tim pool
Well, so you're talking about- Shall we move on then and talk about prophecy and the end of the world?
ian crossland
I would love to.
tim pool
Alright.
So there was an earthquake in New York, now that we're rapidly shifting off.
That was the longest segment we've ever done.
Epicenter of the New York City, New Jersey earthquake was near Trump National Golf Club.
Ground shook very hard.
What a great quote.
I don't think near is fair.
I think at is a better way to put it.
So you have, here's the image of the epicenter of the earthquake.
Notice the highways here.
Notice everything.
You can pull up Trump's golf club.
It's literally right there.
It's there!
The Trump Golf Club is the epicenter, thus proving Trump is either going to save humanity or condemn it.
What say you, panel?
libby emmons
Do we have any reports of damage from Bedminster?
tim pool
I don't think there's any damage.
unidentified
I think a garbage can tipped over.
ian crossland
I think that... They will rebuild.
Just like Ruth Bader Ginsburg wants you to think the Constitution is alive, I think the Earth is alive.
I think it is.
I think at the very least it's a lot of living organisms making up one big organism, kind of like our bodies with all these living cells making up one living organism.
And I think this is not a coincidence.
libby emmons
You think it's a conscious rock?
ian crossland
Or at least sentient?
Or something about Trump?
tim pool
Maybe I've been watching MSNBC too much.
ian crossland
Yeah, it was in Taiwan and now it's at Bedminster.
I mean, it could just be total coincidence.
The magnetic nature of the universe and earthquakes met lightning in the way that magma is magnetic and flows.
It's all kind of connected.
unidentified
I think Letitia James just filed a motion saying he overvalued this property.
He didn't write that it was on a fault line.
tim pool
Is that true though?
No.
Some people were saying that Letitia James is threatening to bring up charges against Trump for the earthquake.
But that he overvalued it never actually makes sense.
unidentified
He said, never had an earthquake, 0% chance in a filing 20 years ago, and she's got him now.
libby emmons
It's the Ramapo fault that goes under New Jersey.
tim pool
We live in a simulation.
And the Mandela effect is because they can't erase all of our memories when the simulation changes.
I'm kidding, by the way, but like, it's just there's so many weird things that go on.
unidentified
It's insane.
tim pool
Yeah, it was an earthquake.
I was like, wow, did you hear this this morning?
We were doing the show and like people are texting like there's an earthquake.
And then they're like, oh, and by the way, it was like at Trump Trump's golf club.
ian crossland
Are you before this?
unidentified
I was gonna say put that in a book.
No one would believe it.
Right?
ian crossland
Yeah.
unidentified
No one would believe it.
ian crossland
Stories in the Bible.
tim pool
When they write the history and they'll be like, Shortly before Trump arrived at court for, you know, for this proceeding, there was an earthquake at his golf resort, which shocked the nation or whatever.
And people are gonna be like, no, wait, come on.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Right?
Go on.
ian crossland
Announcing the arrival of the host.
In the Bible, they'll talk about like great natural disasters, wiping out unjust people.
I think it was Sodom and Gomorrah, they say that it, I don't know what it was that destroyed the city, an explosion.
I think it was built on a salt mine, one of those cities.
So the fumes from sulfur caught fire and the whole place lit up.
I don't know exactly, but.
tim pool
What, Sodom and Gomorrah?
ian crossland
Yeah, Gamora.
tim pool
God smote them.
ian crossland
Smote them, yeah.
Like, God struck it down.
So I wonder, I was thinking last night, like, if there's some horrible tragedy about to occur on the planet Earth and God steps in and stops it with a natural disaster, like, it would be horrible still.
tim pool
Well, here's a question I have.
I don't know if you guys have the answer for this.
How did God smote Sodom and Gomorrah?
ian crossland
Smite.
unidentified
Smote is the past tense. That's right. Yeah, because he smote them.
Smoted. How did he smite them? I like smited as the past tense. He smate them in such a past tense.
tim pool
It's two. Well, like he already did something, how did he do it? So it's past tense. Wouldn't
unidentified
it be plural? Smite? Smite. How smitten were they? All right, sorry to interrupt you.
tim pool
My point was like, was it, does the Bible describe it as a miraculous destruction? Or
did God use natural means to destroy them, right?
Like, did a volcano erupt and wipe them out, or was it like a beam from the sky came in low orbit, ion-cannoned them into oblivion?
libby emmons
It was rains of sulfur and fire.
unidentified
Yeah, I don't think there's a natural disaster attached to it.
libby emmons
That sounds like a natural disaster.
That could be a natural disaster.
tim pool
Rains of sulfur and fire?
ian crossland
Yeah, they had salt mines.
libby emmons
Well, wouldn't that be like, I mean, you could have, well yeah, there were the salt mines, and then Lot, his wife, turned into salt because she looked back.
ian crossland
Was that Gamora?
libby emmons
Yeah, weren't they fleeing?
Wasn't that them?
tim pool
I read, I watched something where they said it was a nuclear bomb.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
Aliens, aliens nuked Sodom and Gomorrah because they were debaucherous and spreading disease.
And the reason why they said do not look back or you'll turn to a pillar of salt is because she got vaporized by the shockwave.
But that's one of those ancient aliens things, you know what I mean?
libby emmons
Ancient alien theorists say yes.
unidentified
I'm not an earthquake expert.
I think they call them geologists.
But is the epicenter the strongest point or just the origin point?
So maybe Trump was shooting out the earthquake at his enemies because it did hit New York City.
ian crossland
Like the eye of a hurricane?
tim pool
So Trump's in his underground lair and he's like, we're gonna teach Letitia James a lesson!
Activate the device!
unidentified
I mean, look at that quote.
He's like, it shook very hard.
That has to be a Trump quote, right?
tim pool
Very hard.
unidentified
The hardest.
ian crossland
The hardest 4.2 earthquake you can imagine.
Every moment of it.
unidentified
It would have been more, but then they reduced my bond amount.
So I just threw him a little bit of a four point something.
tim pool
So the reason I asked about whether Sodom and Gomorrah was destroyed by natural means, like the question is, when God takes an action, does it appear miraculous, like a magical beam of light or a volcano erupts?
libby emmons
I think it depends on the miracle.
I mean, if you look at the Bible stories.
tim pool
This is why I asked, because if it is God uses natural means, then is he smiting Trump?
unidentified
That's a good question.
tim pool
Or has he smoten or smote New York?
unidentified
I think Trump... What is the past tense of smite?
I think that Trump... Look at the electoral votes in New York and New Jersey.
tim pool
It is smote.
I was right.
ian crossland
Smote!
No, I was right.
unidentified
Imagine if you were to break off those two.
States.
Trump wins.
tim pool
Which states?
libby emmons
New Jersey and New York.
unidentified
You break them off into the ocean, Trump wins.
So like I said, I think it's the Superman 1 plot and Trump is Lex Luthor.
tim pool
Trying to remove New York.
ian crossland
So now we're talking about super weapons, which we haven't talked about.
tim pool
But you can't remove New York, you have to remove all of New England.
Is that Superman 1 or Superman Returns?
Yeah, yeah.
Returns, wasn't that where Lex is trying to build a new island?
unidentified
Yeah, and then it would flood half the United States.
The eastern half.
But that's not what he's... Yeah, I'm referring to the Lex Luthor in 1.
tim pool
In 1, he wanted to remove a state.
unidentified
He was gonna knock California into the ocean and then he would have all the beachfront property.
He knew exactly what... Which is very Trumpian.
ian crossland
Is that the original Superman?
That's so 70s.
Was that like late 70s, early 80s?
That's so great, he bought all the property.
unidentified
Lex Luthor, the real estate mogul.
tim pool
That's such a sad version of Lex Luthor.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
The more modern versions are much better where he's just- These are just the moon bases and stuff.
Yeah, the more modern version, he just thinks he's kind of like Dr. Doom.
He thinks he's the only one who can save humanity, and he should be in charge.
He's better than you.
ian crossland
So do you think these could have been weapons?
Do you think these could be geo-weaponry?
I mean, it could be, obviously.
unidentified
I threw out the Chinese superweapon early on.
Yeah, we had a split decision on the panel here.
ian crossland
And then I was like, well, it's an American superweapon.
They did it in Taiwan to make it look like the Chinese.
Now they do it to themselves.
Or maybe they're just getting it Let's do something on Trump.
tim pool
Oh, Trump false flagged himself with his own earthquake device to make himself look like the victim.
ian crossland
There you go.
I don't know who's quaking.
Who's at the center of this earthquake?
unidentified
Which politician's favorite movie is The Core?
Because I believe they were using an earthquake weapon and that caused the events of that film.
tim pool
Yeah, they stopped the core from spinning because they were using earthquake weapons.
And then they had to go down and kickstart the core again.
unidentified
What if this was Jewish people digging a tunnel too deep?
In Brooklyn.
tim pool
That proves it.
unidentified
With shovels.
tim pool
Tunnels in Brooklyn.
ian crossland
Someone mentioned, you yesterday, Tim, about the farmers in California having to suck the water out of like 20,000 feet down to get to the water table, and that caused seismic disruption.
tim pool
It causes the whole city to sink.
unidentified
Wow.
ian crossland
Pulling the water out of the ground.
I've heard about that about oil.
Obviously fracking can do that too.
tim pool
Well, it's because the earth is flat and beneath the plane is the waters of the universe and they're pulling that out and sinking us to the bottom of the dome that we're in.
See, that proves it.
unidentified
My question is, is maybe like this much concrete is like the safest thing that you could have?
Because remember Casey Neistat stuck a camera, like he pulled up a whole Brooklyn sidewalk and it was just this much separating it from the ground.
Maybe that's enough.
That's earthquake proof right there.
I didn't hear anything about sidewalks collapsing in New York City.
ian crossland
This was a pretty low one.
There's 4.2, 4.8, 4.8.
Which is pretty big for the East Coast.
For the East Coast, yeah.
But there's 7.5 in Taiwan.
unidentified
But they have more experience with it.
libby emmons
And they only lost like 10 people in that.
I mean, buildings crashed onto themselves.
tim pool
Taiwan was crazy, like a whole apartment building fell over.
libby emmons
Yeah, that was wild.
unidentified
It was like a movie.
Well, they were commuting, so I guess a lot of people in those buildings were out and going to work.
It was like 9 a.m.
over there or something.
libby emmons
Crazy.
Yeah, it was like 9 o'clock in the morning.
I always think about if there were a real earthquake in New York, because there's a fault line that goes right under 23rd Street.
That would be really bad for New York City.
tim pool
Well, if there's a fault line there, that's only a matter of time.
libby emmons
Yeah, it's dormant.
It hasn't it hasn't shook in quite a while.
This was like the Ramapo fault, which was Jersey, obviously, but New York could not withstand a proper earthquake.
No.
unidentified
Well, it could be a problem.
I know Haiti didn't have seismic activity for 200 years.
And then all of a sudden that fault line, I forgot what it's called, activated and they had just reinforced their buildings for hurricanes.
Wow.
So they were concrete and all that, and they were not earthquake-proof at all.
So that's why so many people died in that earthquake 15 years ago, which you know which one I'm referring to.
tim pool
It must be the end of days.
ian crossland
Gosh, I wonder.
unidentified
I can't believe someone remembered the plot of Superman Returns.
That was you.
No, that was you.
No, I remembered Superman Returns.
Oh, did you?
That was impressive.
ian crossland
As we were just talking, I was thinking, like, God is going to say, when you die, if you die, or when you speak with God, it'll be like, yeah, it was real, dude, the whole time, I guess.
Why did it take you 48 or 500 years or however long?
Why did it take you so many years to figure that out?
Why did you live your life like just, like, you need it.
tim pool
I want to give this lady a special shout out from the post-millennial.
Woke New Jersey Senate candidate says earthquake is evidence the climate crisis is real.
libby emmons
I died when I saw this tweet.
tim pool
Yo.
I experienced my first earthquake in New Jersey.
We never get earthquakes.
The climate crisis is real.
I'm sorry.
It's a cult.
unidentified
Oh, it's definitely a cult.
It's definitely a cult.
ian crossland
They called it the climate crisis is the culty part, because there's a lot of crises in our climate at the moment.
unidentified
They keep changing.
tim pool
The culty part is being like, the, the sun is, the pollution is causing earthquakes now.
Yeah, I did.
unidentified
I did.
I went back I looked at every prediction.
Weather people, climatologists, geologists, whoever, that predict terrible things are going to happen to the environment in some way.
We're going to run out of oil, or we're going to run out of natural resources, or overpopulation.
And I went back to when I was born in 1966.
I found 53.
And they are 0 in 53.
Not one climate crisis, environmental crisis, that these so-called experts have come up with has ever come true.
And now they want us to believe number 54.
And you gotta be crazy to believe 54.
Why would we believe?
Who would believe someone who's 0 on 53?
I wouldn't believe someone who's 0 on 2.
Are you trying to say that you're willing to let us have earthquakes just so you cannot drive an electric vehicle?
Shame on you, sir.
ian crossland
The climate predictions that lead to these, what they call the climate crisis, the climate, the big one, the predictions are made without implementing mitigating factors.
I talked actually with Ben Shapiro about this.
Ben's really knowledgeable about this too.
Cause things change.
So they build a data and they're like, if things continue as they are in 10 years, we will be, things don't, they do not always, you learn a new technology completely.
Like the horse poop in New York, they invented the automobile and it was completely, it was the biggest problem on earth.
tim pool
When did Greta Thunberg, she was like, we have three years left or something.
And like, and then she deleted the tweet.
libby emmons
Right.
tim pool
So my view is that was a load off my shoulders.
I mean, like.
libby emmons
Were you worried about it?
tim pool
When she tweeted that out and said we had like three years left, once we finally reached that point, I was just relieved.
So I'm like, now it doesn't matter anymore.
unidentified
Exactly.
tim pool
I'm like, we're done.
unidentified
It's over.
libby emmons
And they never say that.
tim pool
It's like a meteor is right there in the sky, but to hit us and take nothing we can do about it.
So I'm ready to party, dude.
libby emmons
What I always think about when, you know, people freak out about the climate and they're like, we have to do this and we have to change this about our lives and our culture and our whole civilization.
To appease the weather gods so that they don't kill us.
It just seems so ancient, you know?
It's like, what we do matters so much for the weather.
We must change everything we do to appease the gods of the weather.
unidentified
And that's what they were doing in the Middle Ages.
libby emmons
Yeah.
unidentified
How many, how many tipping points or point of no returns have we passed by and they just like move the goalposts?
libby emmons
That's right.
unidentified
I feel like I'm crazy sometimes.
Like maybe it is a Mandela effect.
I'm like, didn't we hit this when I was like 15 years old?
libby emmons
And people freak out.
Like the kids are all freaking out.
They're like, oh, I can't have children or a normal life because of the climate extinction rebellion.
tim pool
When I was in grade school, when I was probably like 10, in class they told us that we would run out of oil by like 2010.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
Because this was the mid-90s.
They were like, oil is expected to run out at this point.
And so we're getting worried about it.
I was like, whoa.
And then like, here I am.
ian crossland
Mitigating circumstances.
They found new oil.
unidentified
And then they wonder why you're a neurotic.
ian crossland
Or they figured out how to use less oil in a combustive process.
libby emmons
It's like the end of days syndrome.
Humans always just want to believe that we're at the absolute pinnacle of the end times.
unidentified
The way we measure resources is whether or not an oil reserve is financially viable to tap it.
But the thing is, is if you run out of the cheap, easy oil to tap or it produces,
then expensive oil like Canadian tar sands or like Venezuela has tar sands oil,
that becomes more economically viable.
So that goes into the reserves.
So you can look at a map of like the countries with the greatest oil reserves,
and you'll see like randomly in like the 2010s, when gas prices went up under Bush,
Canada and Venezuela go to number one and number three on the list.
And you're like, they didn't just find that oil.
They always had it.
It just was not, the technology didn't exist.
It was not viable.
So to your point about how it doesn't measure like the change, it just says, if we continue at this rate and we have this much, this is why all those Malthusian economic predictions never come true.
They're like, we have this many people, this much food is being grown.
It's like, yeah, but when there's more people we think of, we try to make new strains.
ian crossland
We'll be able to start making oil in laboratories like They're doing blue crude.
tim pool
We've already made that.
ian crossland
Yeah, like when you start 3D, especially once you start 3D printing atomically into molecules, dude, we don't need to find more.
It's not about drilling anymore.
It's really about what we're doing with the waste byproduct of the burning of it.
And that's turning it into carbon dioxide, graphene.
unidentified
And the solution is always leftism.
The solution is always socialism.
It's always more government, less freedom.
They never come up, you know, like if we found out that earthquakes were caused because there wasn't enough carbon in the air, they would never tell us that.
If that's what we figured out, because no one can't have more carbon in the air, because then you'll enjoy your air conditioning.
tim pool
No, no, no, but they would, but then they would just make a reason why that means we need communism.
unidentified
Yeah, or they would do that, or they would hide it.
tim pool
They'd be like, oh, well, because of that, we have to put carbon vehicles, everyone has to have a carbon vehicle, so you need to sign up for this government program.
unidentified
Right, everybody, we're going to centralize, everybody has to have air conditioning, everybody has to have a gas grill.
Yeah, that's what they would do.
tim pool
That means all of the newcomers that are coming in and staying at these shelters are going to need their own air conditioners and cars as well because it's a mandate to prevent the catastrophe with earthquakes.
unidentified
Yeah, that's always the solution.
It's never more freedom.
It's never just leave me the hell alone.
ian crossland
You can turn it into graphene, the carbon, which is this black powder.
It's just pure carbon.
Hexagonal lattice carbon.
I don't have a diagram next to me.
Pure carbon, reusable, put it in building materials, make electronics out of it and stuff.
But the problem is if private companies start doing that, we might take too much out of the air and then we'll start killing off the plant life.
So we might need, not a communist mandate, some sort of central mandate to make sure that we don't, as a species, eradicate our air supply.
tim pool
We won't.
We'll just burn gas.
ian crossland
Just overcharge our coal production.
tim pool
If there are news reports being like, too much carbon is being taken out of the air, people will be like, I guess I'll drive more.
ian crossland
Hell yeah, dude.
unidentified
Turn up the air conditioning.
ian crossland
It enhances so much of our society.
tim pool
Carbon.
ian crossland
Or carbon-based love.
tim pool
What trees are made of.
unidentified
And then the people that tell us that the oceans are gonna rise, they move to the coast.
tim pool
That's my favorite one.
unidentified
That's, you know, Obama.
tim pool
Have you ever seen that video where the guy says, I can debunk climate change right now very easily?
The banks are giving mortgages on real estate in Miami Beach.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
He's like, if it were real, all of these banks would be legally required to have this, like a red notice, bold, like, this property will be inviolable in 30 years, your investment will be zero, and this loan will be dead.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
But they don't have to do that.
unidentified
But what if Al Gore's buying beachfront property just to be the first to say, I told you so?
It's not hypocrisy.
ian crossland
I had a webcam set up in my living room.
tim pool
The reason they're coming out and saying beachfront property is worthless, it's going to be underwater, is to drop the prices and buy it up.
Then they can get cheap property.
unidentified
Just like Lex Luthor.
That's kind of the Lex Luthor thing.
tim pool
Yeah, that's exactly it.
That proves it.
unidentified
That may be what Trump's up to.
ian crossland
Because the property in Miami Beach was shockingly cheap.
I mean, it's relatively cheap.
These 60-floor penthouses condos are like $3,000 a month to rent, to rent.
I thought they were going to be $6,000, but it's cheap?
tim pool
I've played Civilization.
I know what happens.
You build water barriers.
They build sea barriers.
That's exactly right.
So this is funny because the game Civilization has climate change where the water levels rise and stuff.
And you can build sea barriers around your cities.
unidentified
That's all you gotta do.
tim pool
That's it.
unidentified
And then CNN is telling us that the oceans are going to rise.
And what do they do?
They leave Atlanta, where they'd be safe, and they move right to the edge of the water.
in New York.
Yep.
tim pool
Or what you can do is do what Chicago did and just raise the whole city up.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
How did they do it?
They just built, they like, it's crazy when you go to Lower Wacker, it's all steel beams
and pillars, but when you're on the upper level, it's just like a, you think you're
unidentified
Oh, I know.
ian crossland
Okay.
tim pool
I know it's crazy cuz like you go to New York and you like walk down the street you're that as asphalt over gravel on dirt and Bedrock and stuff you go to Chicago and you're walking on the sidewalk and underneath you you are walking on a bridge It's been the whole city like the whole not the whole city, but this whole portion of the city.
It's crazy.
libby emmons
Was it a Well, in New York, underneath New York, in a lot of places, there's more New York.
There's like buildings underground.
They're not in use.
tim pool
Oh yeah, there's like abandoned railroad tracks with ghosts.
libby emmons
There's all kinds of crazy stuff down there.
unidentified
Plus, if the planet warms, if that's true, that'll save lives.
We'll have more food.
More people die from the cold than the heat, and we figure it out.
tim pool
And then there's a solution to the Israel thing.
When Antarctica melts, maybe all the Jews can move there?
unidentified
There you go.
Wow.
tim pool
Look, we've just solved all the problems.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
Climate change is saving us.
unidentified
Thank you for making peace in the Middle East.
tim pool
Making peace in the Middle East.
unidentified
I didn't believe in climate change before, but now I'm pro-climate change.
ian crossland
We're watching a change before our eyes.
Subtly, slowly, but it's changing.
Always.
tim pool
But you can always rest assured that some crackpot leftists will have no idea what they're talking about and just say these things.
But, uh, okay.
Also, why does it say from Earth on your tweet?
libby emmons
Yeah.
unidentified
I don't know.
She's clever.
She's cute.
tim pool
It's because she's not on Earth and she set her location on Earth.
She's on Mars.
unidentified
Did she get community noted?
I can't see that.
ian crossland
Did they community note her?
tim pool
Yes.
It's not here in the image, but it says, New Jersey sits on a fault line, has nothing to do with climate change.
unidentified
I love community notes.
I think the Earth is like, I'm a citizen of the world, just so you know.
She decided to go with that location.
It was a specific choice.
She's precious.
The final point about climate change I'll make is that they never talk about adaptation.
We adapt to everything, all different kinds of circumstances.
And there are actually people who are like, oh, adapting to it is just like accepting the problem and you're never going to change.
But it's like, OK, but you told me Manhattan's going to be underwater.
Building a barrier to save one of the economic epicenters of the world seems like way smarter than relocating one of the economic epicenters of the world.
Like, how much does it cost to build a sea barrier versus moving Manhattan?
Plus, you'd have to go to a war with China to get them to comply.
I mean, there's nothing we can do that's going to change with China.
tim pool
My friends, none of this matters.
The eclipse is coming, and Rolling Stone says, the far right is crawling with eclipse conspiracy theories.
Everyone has lost their GD minds.
And then they say, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
What are the conspiracies?
What is it?
Do they even have any conspiracies here?
unidentified
NBC's bringing back heroes again, and this is all publicity.
tim pool
Look at all this patter.
There's nothing in this article.
This is stupid.
Okay, well I'm gonna give it to USA Today, who actually showed us the conspiracies.
Debunking misinformation conspiracy sparked by 2024 solar eclipse.
Alright, you ready for this one?
First, CERN will start up April 8th to open a portal during the eclipse.
False.
No, no.
I've not heard anyone claim they want to open a portal.
It's just a natural byproduct of CERN.
They don't know that in the USA today.
What is true is that CERN is going to be operating the Large Engine Collider in April 8th.
The post is wrong about both the timing and the nature of CERN's work.
CERN's equipment began operating in March, a month before the eclipse,
and the technology is nowhere near strong enough to open a portal or a black hole.
libby emmons
They don't know that in the USA today.
unidentified
That's wrong. That's wrong.
As far as they know.
tim pool
CERN has, I'm pretty sure, okay, I got a fact to this one, but I'm pretty sure CERN's been able to make black holes.
unidentified
That was the plot of Superman Returns, wasn't it?
ian crossland
Building black holes?
They should be doing this in magnetic confinement in a little bit.
tim pool
Okay, I'm wrong.
Yeah, they can't make them.
I thought they could.
Okay, we'll give him that one.
What people have been pointing out is that CERN is operating on April 8th.
What they do is they add this nonsense to open a portal so they can call it false.
Here we go.
unidentified
They started operating in March.
These are some of the smartest people in the world.
You think they don't know what Eclipse scheduled?
That does not address the point.
tim pool
There's not even Eclipse over CERN.
Okay, here we go.
April 8th, solar eclipse will cause three to five days of darkness.
False.
Who claimed that?
Okay, whatever.
Here's why I love this.
Because I saw this and I was like, wait, wait, how did they say this is false?
It says NASA is launching three rockets at three moons during the eclipse.
False.
NASA is launching three rockets to study the eclipse, but not at three moons because we only have one.
Who said we had three?
They make these things up.
unidentified
Do they say where the claim came from?
Do they link to like even some errant tweet somewhere?
ian crossland
Or are they launching into Phobos?
tim pool
What is this?
Three rockets?
What is this?
unidentified
Who said it?
I mean, it's easy.
tim pool
A March 30th Facebook video shows a man talking about NASA's plans.
They grab some random yokel on Facebook and they're like, better run this one.
unidentified
Creating this far right category thing.
tim pool
Eclipse crosses seven cities named Nineveh.
I heard that one, but that's not a conspiracy theory in any way.
Is that what they're saying is these are conspiracy theories?
There's two! Two Ninevas, not seven.
ian crossland
I heard that one, but that's not a conspiracy theory in any way.
Is that what they're saying? Is these are conspiracy theories?
Yeah.
tim pool
Here we go.
ian crossland
Wrong information.
tim pool
A bird man was seen days before the eclipse.
The photo of a silhouette in the sky has circulated online since November.
Wow, that's good.
Three rockets being launched by NASA are part of a sex magic ritual.
Wow.
unidentified
That I believe.
ian crossland
You know that for sure, yeah.
Makes sense.
tim pool
Well, they named the rockets APEP.
Did you know that?
unidentified
They named it what?
tim pool
They named the rockets the APEP rockets.
What's that?
APEP is the Egyptian god who chases the sun and defeats it every day.
libby emmons
Oh, defeats it.
unidentified
Oh, I see.
tim pool
Yeah, like, I don't know, like, Mouse was saying, Michael Mouse was saying, he eats it.
I don't know that he eats it.
ian crossland
Yeah, it's like a snake that eats the end of his tail every day or something.
tim pool
No, he battles Ra and defeats Ra every day.
And then Ra strikes back in the morning.
ian crossland
That's just... Yeah, no joke, these guys are into the occult, for sure.
unidentified
If they're naming their rockets after Egyptian gods, they're... Yeah, that's definitely occultish behavior.
libby emmons
It's definitely.
ian crossland
And I say the occult, but there's more than one occult.
unidentified
There's a lot of occultish, you know, thoughts and... The occulti.
ian crossland
You can't have occult without it.
You can't have occult without it.
unidentified
That one on the bottom is the best one.
tim pool
Which one?
unidentified
Right there, the last one.
tim pool
Claims sun and moon will not be aligned for 2024 eclipse.
Rating, false.
unidentified
They will.
tim pool
That's an eclipse.
unidentified
That's what an eclipse is.
libby emmons
What an eclipse is.
tim pool
Yeah, so I guess we had an annular eclipse, which is where the moon is further away from the sun, so it, from the earth, so it doesn't cover the sun completely.
And then, you know, you can actually see the sun.
And then we're having now is a total eclipse where the moon is close to the sun, so it looks bigger and it's going to block the whole thing.
unidentified
That's pretty cool.
Yeah, it's going to be cool.
ian crossland
I guess we should do something for it.
tim pool
And then of course, what people misunderstand is that What they're wrong about with CERN is that CERN's not
firing up to open a portal during the eclipse.
The issue is that when the sun and the moon align, it creates a portal. CERN is firing up to create a
force field to protect the earth from the demon hordes that come from the eclipse.
ian crossland
Now you're talking. That's true. That's right.
unidentified
Someone wants to be in USA Today.
ian crossland
I think these suns, these stars, are like magnifying lenses for energy that can come at you right through them and it accelerates it.
So like when I think about super acceleration through the universe, through like warp drive or things like that.
Yeah, picture aiming at a black hole, hitting it as fast as you can right through the center.
It's a charged black hole and then it spits you out the other side at light speed.
And then as soon as you get close to a sun or some other magnetic thing, it slows you down and you come back to normal space.
So I don't know if there's something going on here with magic and magnetics and energy.
That proves it.
Because they're firing rockets that measure disturbance in atmosphere on a time when the moon is blocking the sun.
So there's a reason they want to test the disturbance when the sun is blocked out magnetically or whatever kind of disturbances they're looking for.
unidentified
I just want to see Trump stare at the eclipse again.
tim pool
That's the funny thing, because the left attacked him for it.
He glanced at it briefly, and they're like, he looked at it!
He looked at it, everybody!
He's so dumb!
It's like, dude.
unidentified
That's what normal people would do.
tim pool
The issue is that people stare at the eclipse.
Not that you look up for a second and go, oh, look, there's an eclipse.
unidentified
You know, not on the list of theories is that the Earth Kingdom is going to invade the Fire Nation on that day.
tim pool
That's true.
Yeah.
Also, Ian stares at the sun.
ian crossland
Yeah, gaze, rather, I'd like to say, instead of stare.
But what you do is called sun gazing.
It's an ancient thousand-year-old... Definitely do not listen to him.
tim pool
Do not do this.
ian crossland
Well, listen.
I'm not telling you to do it.
Just listen.
unidentified
Tim Katz's IRL is not a medical show.
ian crossland
Through the ages, they've done this practice called sun gazing, where when the sun is very low to the horizon in the morning or in the...
Evening.
Um, you let it into the, and it hits the back of your eye and it kind of stretches and builds the muscles in your eye.
And if, as long as you're not focusing your eyes right on the really hot burning thing, you're not going to burn it.
You kind of like let it, or you don't really even like necessarily look at it.
You let the sun into the back of your eye and wash over the retina.
I've found that it melts away the floaty things.
You ever get those things that float in your eye?
They melt away when you sun gaze.
At least I've found they melted mine away.
tim pool
And also my vision got better when I was away from the computer and gazing at the Because it was like LASIK, he was looking around the sun, he was singeing the ring of Cuscornia.
unidentified
You might want to repeat that.
ian crossland
Yeah, gotta go!
unidentified
Yeah, it was wild.
ian crossland
Nuts.
tim pool
Sungazing is the practice of looking directly at the sun.
It is the unsafe practice, that's what it says.
ian crossland
It's like raw milk.
tim pool
Of looking directly at the sun, oh sure.
ian crossland
It's like the raw milk of healing yourself.
tim pool
It's done as a spiritual or religious practice, most often dawn or dusk.
The human eye is very sensitive and exposure to direct sunlight can lead to solar retinopathy, how do you pronounce this, pterygium, cataracts, and potentially blindness.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
Studies have shown that even when viewing a solar eclipse, the eye can still be exposed to harmful levels of ultraviolet radiation.
ian crossland
Sun gazing is a lot like playing with fire.
I would not recommend it.
Somebody just go do it.
Don't try this at home.
What's that?
libby emmons
Don't try this at home.
ian crossland
No, no, no.
tim pool
Talk to a doctor.
ian crossland
But it is an ancient practice.
And if you focus your eye on the sun, man, it will rock you.
Do not do that.
You do not focus your eye on it.
That is when you lose.
tim pool
Don't stare at the sun ever for any reason.
ian crossland
Gaze, that's why they call it gazing instead of staring, because you're really not focused on the sun, you're focused in the direction of it, letting the light hit the back of your eye.
tim pool
There's also people that they do, what do they call it?
Butt sunning or whatever?
Oh yeah.
Sunballing or something?
They get naked and then you hold your legs up in the air so the sun can hit your crack because they're like, it's the one part of the body that never gets sun.
unidentified
You know, I'm 58 years old.
I've had HBO for 40 years.
I've never heard of any of this stuff.
It's just amazing.
tim pool
Yeah, there's like people on Instagram, and they have pictures where it's like a guy and a woman, and they'll be naked.
Like, you won't see anything, but you'll see the people with the sun in the horizon, and they're spreading their legs open.
And they do that thing where they have the lasers.
You know what I'm talking about?
People put the red light on their balls or whatever?
ian crossland
No, I didn't know that.
Oh yeah, I have heard that.
Also icing your balls apparently.
It's called the perineum sunning.
unidentified
Don't do that red light thing if you have a cat.
Luke Rudkowski was telling me about icing your balls.
ian crossland
Last week he was telling me about it.
He's like, apparently it's great for you.
People do it.
If you can do it right and you do it, you know, it can help semen production.
tim pool
I don't, I don't even think, like I've been looking into the ice bath stuff and I don't think I'm going to do it.
It sounds like it's stupid.
libby emmons
It does seem kind of dumb, yeah.
I'm not doing that.
tim pool
Well, it inhibits protein synthesis.
libby emmons
Yeah, I'm not.
tim pool
And they're like, what does it do?
Okay, so it basically causes all your blood vessels to constrict, squeeze out lactic acid, and it reduces your recovery time, while stopping the recovery process.
And I'm like, okay.
So your recovery time ends because you stop recovering.
You jump in ice, your body stops healing.
What was the point of working out in the first place?
unidentified
What's the plus?
tim pool
Yeah, I don't know.
ian crossland
Yeah, you want to do it when you're not working out.
If you want to build muscle, don't do it because it'll inhibit muscle growth.
tim pool
Then why do it at all if you're not working out?
What's the point?
ian crossland
I think because it sends your body into a shock protein state where it starts to go into like your immune system kicks on and it starts cleaning up the body.
Shock proteins, check those out.
Rhonda Patrick does a lot on shock proteins and temperatures and fasting.
Fasting has a similar result of shock protein synthesis, I think is the case.
But Rhonda Patrick's the doctor to listen to on that.
unidentified
Wouldn't you rather just watch TV?
Mm-hmm.
Than jumping up.
ian crossland
It's really good.
Well, there's the ice bath I've never done.
There's the cold plunge I've done.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
Those are great.
I actually craved, like it was a food.
In my life, this has never happened before, I wanted to eat it.
The next day, that cold plunge affected my body so much, the next day I was hungry for it.
My stomach wanted it.
unidentified
What was the food?
ian crossland
A cold plunge.
unidentified
Oh.
ian crossland
A wild feeling.
What?
Yeah, my body was literally having hunger cravings for the cold plunge.
unidentified
Really?
ian crossland
Yeah.
unidentified
Wow.
But is that a good thing?
ian crossland
I think so.
It felt like, man, let's get another meal.
Let's go.
tim pool
Ian skipped all of his workouts this week.
ian crossland
No, I worked out today by myself for about 25 minutes.
tim pool
Well, he skipped the three training sessions.
ian crossland
Yeah, but I did get my license, or started to, my driver's license.
I've been putting that off for a while.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I know a lot of people who can't drive for some reason.
ian crossland
I just, COVID freaked me out.
I didn't want to go in there with my mask and sit around and wait.
And my licenses had expired.
So I was just like, I work from home.
I Uber everywhere.
It was relatively convenient.
I would get rides, but it was a burden.
It became a burden.
unidentified
You couldn't update online because of the COVID thing?
ian crossland
Yeah, that's what I did, I'm pretty sure.
It was stolen in South America like five years ago.
And it just lapped so long that I had to go get a new one.
I had to take the test again.
I took the test.
I'll tell you about that.
unidentified
That was wild.
I updated mine online during COVID, and I was supposed to retake a picture, but I didn't have to.
So I have, like, 17-year-old me on my driver's license.
Yeah, you should see mine.
I look like a kid.
My hair's all brown.
libby emmons
It's still there.
I got my, like, non-driver's ID, and they took a picture of that.
And then I used that, and I got a learner's permit.
And I had the learner's permit for 10 years before I got my license.
unidentified
And I got my license on literally the last... Which means you got it twice, because it's five years.
libby emmons
No, I never had a license before that.
unidentified
No, I meant the permit.
You have to get it twice, so you renewed it.
libby emmons
No, they gave it to me for nine years.
unidentified
Oh, here?
libby emmons
No, in New York.
unidentified
Because my brother had to renew it, same deal.
libby emmons
But I got it on the very last day that it was possible, which was my 45th birthday.
tim pool
I think Arizona is like 50 years your license is good for.
unidentified
Really?
tim pool
That's insane amount of time.
unidentified
Don't they want to update your picture?
Cause I mean, you're going to look a lot different at, you know, 70 than 20.
I don't know, man.
tim pool
Maybe it's, I could have sworn someone showed me an Arizona ID.
That's awesome.
ian crossland
My, my, my first, um, what was the passport ID?
I looked like this hippie dude I didn't care about.
And I was just like full flow.
tim pool
They expire on your 65th birthday.
ian crossland
And then as the years went on, my pictures became more and more sad.
Like, you can see the pain of reality kicking in.
tim pool
You do need to update your photo every 12 years.
And the license doesn't expire until you're 65.
unidentified
Wow.
Well, that makes sense.
That makes sense.
ian crossland
It's my first real ID.
Do you know what kind of tracking mechanisms these things have?
libby emmons
Isn't it like biometric data or something like that?
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
They're probably just RFID.
I think the main point of RFID, of real ID, was so that there was one national database for all IDs from all states.
Basically stripping you of your sovereignty and destroying states' rights.
ian crossland
And making it so I don't have to spend nine days getting people to mail things to that guy, to that guy, to that guy every time I move states, which will be the upside of it.
tim pool
And then the best part is in 50 years they're gonna do the same thing with NATO.
And then you're gonna have to get your updated NATO real ID.
So that we can have one database between France, the UK, New York, Illinois.
ian crossland
We gotta call something other than NATO though.
I'm down with a one-world government as long as it doesn't have much strength.
Like, if we have the state's rights still, but there's, like, a central authority that's, like, weak.
tim pool
Yeah, but, like, I was watching this commercial, and there was this lady singing about taking some drug for her A1C or something.
libby emmons
What is A1C?
tim pool
I don't know, but my girlfriend was like, I hate this commercial, and I was like, see, now don't you understand Bill Gates?
Right.
Who's sitting here watching those epic commercials, and he's just thinking to himself, like, they all must go!
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
I'm like, wow, you know, I can't blame him.
I saw the same commercial.
unidentified
Logan's run.
ian crossland
I was thinking I actually mentioned this to the suicide pods in Canada.
These this made programming things and I'm like we were joking.
We're kind of talking about like what's it going to do this and I was like well and also
lower the chance of them having a revolution because a lot of those angry young men that
normally go to war and go into the pod and yeah, what's going to happen is they're going
tim pool
to they're going to they're going to capture some young rebellious man and then they're
going to come out back.
Unfortunately, he opted for the suicide booth.
unidentified
Exactly.
ian crossland
Well, I'm thinking less than fair is that instead of becoming rebellious, they'll just become depressed and suicidal.
And society will point them in that direction because they don't want them to become enraged.
They know it's bad.
tim pool
They're just like, I'll just cut their balls off.
unidentified
It's kind of happening in this country with the drugs.
You know, you have a lot of people, it may not be a suicide, but suicides are way up.
Drug deaths are way up.
And it's all sort of this cultural attack.
libby emmons
It's a death cult.
unidentified
On the working people.
libby emmons
Yeah, it is a cultural attack on the working people.
And they're just being replaced with like, you know, cheap immigrants.
unidentified
Yeah, and you hear stories, too, where I live about people, they have pride, things are going well, and then the government will come in and say, no, you got to get these food stamps.
You got to get the welfare.
tim pool
You got to put fluoride in your drinking water.
unidentified
This is what's best for you.
This is what's best for you.
And then you create a dependent class out of it.
tim pool
We don't have fluoride in our drinking water.
ian crossland
It's some of the best drinking water.
tim pool
It just comes straight out of the ground.
ian crossland
I've ever had in my life.
tim pool
And it's a well water.
We have two nine-stage filters.
We have a basic one and then we have one for the sink.
So it goes through twice.
The last one adds minerals back into it because you don't want to have the stripped water or whatever.
But yeah, no fluoride.
unidentified
We add potassium.
I think you need potassium if you get well water.
You need to add that, otherwise you won't have potassium.
libby emmons
You can't just eat a bunch of bananas?
unidentified
You can eat a bunch of bananas, too, if you want to do that.
tim pool
There is an amount of bananas you can eat that will give you radiation poisoning.
libby emmons
Oh, no way.
tim pool
You will die from eating the bananas before you get radiation poisoning.
ian crossland
How many?
Roughly how many?
Is it like a thousand?
tim pool
It's probably some absurd number.
You ever hear the story about the guy who died from eating too many red lobster biscuits?
libby emmons
Gross?
Gross.
tim pool
Apparently, it's like an urban legend, I don't know if it's true, but he was like sitting, he was waiting for a friend or something, and so they gave him a thing of biscuits, the cheddar biscuits, and he ate them, and he just annihilated the whole basket, and then they were like, they're endless, so he's like, I'll get another one, and then someone said like, man, you could break the record, and then he was like, I could break the record, and then he died.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
From eating too many biscuits.
unidentified
I don't know if anyone's gonna get this reference, but did they offer him a very thin mint?
ian crossland
I vaguely get it.
unidentified
Monty Python, Meaning of Life.
The guy explodes at the end.
ian crossland
I thought that was the last thing.
unidentified
I hate being old.
tim pool
I vaguely remember.
The thing that was the last thing.
unidentified
Just a thin mincer.
And then he just explodes.
It's probably the getting old.
I don't know the new references and nobody knows mine.
ian crossland
I saw the Monty Python Quest for the Holy Grail.
One of my favorite movies of all time.
But then I saw Life of Brian and the one you just mentioned.
unidentified
Meaning of Life.
ian crossland
And I didn't laugh.
Really?
libby emmons
You didn't laugh at Lifebuoyant?
ian crossland
I tried to watch it and I stopped.
unidentified
Oh my gosh.
tim pool
All right, let's go to Super Chats.
If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button,
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because this show is made possible thanks to a partner viewers like
you. And now I'll just read your Super Chats.
Not that we're running out of time here.
Nyan Cat says, hello world.
Hello, Nyan Cat.
I remember you.
That was fun.
ian crossland
Who's Nyan Cat?
tim pool
What?
libby emmons
Nyan Cat.
tim pool
You don't know Nyan Cat?
unidentified
No.
libby emmons
You know, the Nyan Cat.
ian crossland
Oh, now I know what you're talking about.
libby emmons
The rainbow, the rainbow pixelated cat.
tim pool
The Pop-Tart.
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
The Pop-Tart cat.
ian crossland
I think I might know what you're talking about now.
unidentified
That's a reference I'm too old for.
tim pool
All right, Barely a Millennial says, Woke up on Easter to the voice of God in my head saying, If you smoke one more cigarette, you'll get lung cancer.
Stop now.
It was pretty scary, and I haven't had one since.
libby emmons
Oh, well done.
tim pool
Demons don't give up that easy, though.
Constantly nudging.
libby emmons
Well done, though.
tim pool
Absolutely.
And don't give in to the demons.
They're going to be clawing at you and screaming in your face.
But do not give in.
ian crossland
Do that.
libby emmons
You can do it.
unidentified
That was awesome.
Should celebrate with a cigar.
libby emmons
Oh my goodness.
Don't listen to John over here.
ian crossland
When John speaks, man, it changes your DNA.
tim pool
T-Bomb says I have the one they call Clint Torres held captive.
Submit to my demands if you want to hear howdy people again, boobies.
unidentified
Okay.
ian crossland
They didn't give us any demands.
tim pool
There's no demand there.
Yeah.
unidentified
I demand you supply me a demand.
tim pool
Okay, someone's making fun of Lizzo and Salty Bag of Nuts says, my wife is a vet.
She is very informed about bird flu and is very worried.
If any animal tests positive, they are put down, as well as all animals on the property.
How do you think this will affect farms?
Yeah, they're gonna, you're gonna eat the bugs and you'll be happy.
unidentified
This happened to chickens recently.
That's why.
tim pool
In like Texas or something.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Okay, here's what you do.
All right, here's what you do.
ian crossland
All right.
tim pool
If you want people to eat the bugs and be happy, first, you take the beef, the chicken, the lamb, all of it away, okay?
Then, you say, always got his bugs, and they're upset.
But then, you take the bugs away, let them starve for a little bit, then they'll eat mud.
Then you give them the bugs back, and they'll thank you.
libby emmons
And they're grateful.
unidentified
That's right.
libby emmons
Yeah, then you're just grateful.
tim pool
Say, thank you, sir.
We are thankful for the bugs.
They will be happy.
Juan Castle says, Tim, enough of the shenanigans.
Bring on the Donald.
ian crossland
Yes, perhaps.
unidentified
Episode 1000 is coming up, guys.
tim pool
Yeah.
libby emmons
That would be cool.
tim pool
Eclipse Day is episode 999.
Oh, wild.
ian crossland
Don's the guy who'd be like, for episode 1000, I'll do it.
Like, completely arbitrary.
I love it.
But it needs something.
tim pool
Alright, the last campaign says, did you hear about the Tarrant County Central Appraisal District in Texas getting hacked?
The website has been down for weeks, and they are apparently holding homeowners information ransom.
700k.
I did not know that.
DJ Bell says, as a born and raised Californian, a 4.8 isn't even worth talking about.
Yeah, I was in something comparable in Virginia.
We were sitting in my friend's living room, and there was a cup on the coffee table, and we saw the rings in it, and then we were like, Is there an earthquake?
And then we were like, I don't know.
And then we went on the Internet and looked like, oh, yeah, look at that.
There's an earthquake.
ian crossland
This one in L.A., this earthquake.
I was sitting in a restaurant and it started to shake.
And I was like really in like a spiritual like God mode and was like, just pray with the earth.
And I stayed really calm and breathed and slowed down and stopped.
I was like.
Maybe I was in part of that or not, I don't know, but I didn't panic.
unidentified
I lived in East L.A.
for about nine years and we didn't know if it was an earthquake or a helicopter.
Sometimes it's just a little helicopter looking for, you know, the crypts and the bloods.
But after a while you just got used to it.
You just turned up the TV.
The biggest plot twist in Tim's story is it wasn't an earthquake.
It was actually a T-Rex.
ian crossland
From the past.
The story was pretty crazy.
unidentified
He was at Jurassic Park, you know?
ian crossland
He was the scientist.
unidentified
He was that kid.
tim pool
So, uh, Justin Pardo says, first time chatting.
A bit of self-congratulations for my kids' clothing line.
Psyched Kids Clothing just got approved on Public Square.
I post new designs every three weeks.
Come check it out.
Love ya, Ian.
ian crossland
Oh, that's awesome, dude.
What's the store called?
tim pool
Psyched Kids Clothing.
ian crossland
Nice.
tim pool
So, uh, Taylor Silverman brought this up to me, and this is, uh, we are massively winning the culture war, I just gotta tell you.
Something called AWH, Skateboard Distribution, is on Public Square, and I was really surprised to find out.
One of the largest distributors of skateboard equipment, boards, etc.
So this is, like, a massive chunk of the skate industry Being on Public Square is a- that's huge.
And then this is really, really amazing as well.
Let me see if I can pull this one up to see if I can find this.
I can't believe this.
Flip Skateboards is on Public Square.
One of the biggest and most notable skate companies in the world is on Public Square.
Yo, we're winning like crazy.
Guys, sign up for Public Square.
Download the Public Square app!
That's amazing.
Yeah, basically, if you don't like that Bezos does what Bezos does, and Amazon does what they're doing, Public Square is this alternate marketplace, and I hope that Public Square becomes the new Amazon, where you gotta believe in American values before you can sell.
We don't want any of that weird... You know, the issue with it for me is most of these companies don't know or care.
They're simply saying, what's the trending thing?
Tell me what to say and I'll say it.
I don't want that weak, spineless garbage, right?
You go to Public Square, these companies are like, no, I believe in America.
I believe in family.
I believe in my values.
And I'm like, okay, I respect that.
They're saying before they even sell you the product, they know what they believe in and why they do what they do.
These other companies are just like, look, man, I don't know.
I don't care.
I'll just say whatever I have to say.
And I'm like, yeah, you're spineless.
ian crossland
Can anybody sign up for Public Square?
Any company?
tim pool
There's a thing that says, like, by signing up you agree with these things.
And it says, like, I support the family, I support the First Amendment rights.
That's awesome.
It's great.
I love it.
unidentified
Is there a way you can get kicked out?
tim pool
Is there something they can do?
unidentified
I'd imagine.
ian crossland
There's probably terms, I would think.
But I don't have the answer.
But yeah, I would imagine.
If not, that's a big problem.
They should reserve the right.
unidentified
Then you just have to sound sincere.
tim pool
That's crazy.
But I'll give a shout out to Reliance Skateboards.
They're on Public Square as well.
And who else is on here?
libby emmons
There's a lot more stuff on here than the last time I checked it out.
It's cool.
tim pool
I know.
It's so awesome seeing Public Square grow.
ian crossland
And you'll start seeing companies like Disney on there.
That's when you know you've won.
Because they'll just say yes on the, I fully agree with the United States and the ethos of the United States, and they'll say yes anyway just to make money.
And then they're starting to agree and meme in to the new way.
unidentified
They just need to be kicked out if they sign up.
Because they're lying.
Big Diz.
tim pool
No, let them lie.
Let them lie.
And then if they violate those, those, those like clear, if they do these things and you can say like, Hey, you lied, but I'm like, we get to the point where people who are not political are just like, Oh yeah, sure.
I like Trump.
That means we're winning.
unidentified
That's true.
tim pool
They believe history is on the side.
We're on the right side of history.
I think this from public square.
Let me just tell you guys, you don't gotta know anything about skateboarding other than AWH distribution is one of the largest.
So the way it works is, like skate shops have distributors who collect all of the gear, boards, clothes, all this stuff, and then they order directly from a warehouse.
This is one of the biggest.
So, and Flip Skateboards, Jeff Rowley, Tom Penny, who else is, I haven't followed their team in a long time, but these are, Jeff Rowley's in the Tony Hawk video game series.
So this is as popular and mainstream Olympic level stuff as you can get.
And this means that they're publicly, when you go on, when your company's on public square, you're making a public statement about your politics.
That is epic.
Shout out to Flip, shout out to AWH.
A bunch of pro skateboarders have been complaining that skateboarding's woke and it's weak.
libby emmons
Skateboarding should not be weak.
It's sort of a tough sport.
ian crossland
It's one of those grinding sports you can do.
tim pool
I think skateboarders are the lowest tier professional athletes.
And the reason for it is they don't take care of themselves.
They drink, they smoke, they do drugs.
They don't act like athletes.
You look at gymnasts and it's like they've got personal trainers and the trainers being like, today you're gonna do calf stretches and then you're gonna do squats because that's gonna improve when you do this.
Skateboarders are like, I woke up at 3 p.m., pulled a burrito out of the fridge.
At five, we're gonna go skate with the guys.
I'm gonna bring some beers.
libby emmons
They act like artists.
ian crossland
Yeah, true.
tim pool
Yep.
Andrea Viola says, Tim, I was gifted the line of cast brew as coffee in, uh, I was gifted the line of cast brew as coffee is my thing and I am somewhat a coffee snob.
It is absolutely fantastic.
Bravo.
My new fave.
Thank you very much.
I gotta say, they're good.
Rise with Roberto Jr.
was first my favorite, and then Appalachian Nights is the only thing I want to drink.
I don't know why it's so good.
ian crossland
It's my favorite one.
tim pool
It's crazy how good Appalachian Nights is.
And this is not even an opinion.
We struggle to keep it in stock.
It wasn't even the one that we were promoting.
When we launched, we were like, Rise with Roberto Jr.
Breakfast Blend will be our signature.
That's why we put the rooster on it.
And then Appalachian Nights is like, well, we just need like, I was like, I personally like a good dark roast as long as it's not burned or anything.
And then when you look at the website, the reason the first one that appears everywhere is because it's the highest selling.
And it's always selling out.
ian crossland
It could be because it starts with an A, so it's at the top alphabetically.
Also, it's the best brand.
It's the best title.
The Appalachian Nights is so awesome.
unidentified
It's a good name.
It's a good name.
tim pool
We hit that one out of the park.
It's the only one I'm going to drink.
We go anywhere and I'm like, this coffee sucks.
Forgive me, because it is a curse when you buy this.
You taste it, it is so delicious, you'll never want to drink anything else again.
ian crossland
Because I was a huge pumpkin spice fan, but now I'm ready to kind of put that down.
unidentified
I had coffee here this morning.
I don't know what it was, but I drank it black and I usually drink it with milk and sugar.
I'm assuming it's your brand at your place.
tim pool
It probably was at Appalachian Nights.
Stand Your Ground is a medium roast, and it's supposed to have the same flavor profile, so it's supposed to be very similar, but it'll be a little higher caffeine and medium.
But yeah, I don't know, man.
You go to the website, and it's always sold out.
And so we told our distributor, just do it.
Just make whatever.
We can't keep it in stock.
The bag.
ian crossland
It really looks like what it looks like out there at night.
It's wild.
Like we're in Appalachia.
tim pool
That's right.
ian crossland
The mountains are a little darker than the dark sky behind them.
Or is it the sky that's darker?
unidentified
I can't tell.
libby emmons
The mountains are beautiful.
tim pool
Moving out here from Jersey, and I look out my window and I see mountains.
libby emmons
Yeah, the mountains are gorgeous.
tim pool
Salt Lake City's better.
You guys ever been to Salt Lake City?
libby emmons
I've never been to Utah.
tim pool
Real mountains.
libby emmons
I've been to the Rockies.
I mean, I've spent a bunch of time in Colorado.
tim pool
That's cool.
But we got good mountains up here.
They're just covered in trees, you know?
libby emmons
Well, they're old mountains.
That's why they're soft and a little rounder.
You know, they've been out here for a lot longer than the Rockies.
ian crossland
They were spared from the flood.
libby emmons
Yeah, and they're just, they've been tamped down.
unidentified
I heard someone describe the mountains in Utah that a panther set its paw down.
tim pool
Oh, Salt Lake.
ian crossland
What happened was the flood.
I think this is what happened 11,800 years ago, this Younger Dryas period.
Comets hit North American Glacier in addition to a bunch of other things, but there was a global flood.
Crushed North America.
Created the Grand Canyon.
Looks like it created the Grand Canyon.
You can see all the striation marks when you zoom out on the map and watch.
Oh, there's where it started.
That's the erosion.
And it dumps all this salt into Salt Lake.
Right there.
It just dumps all this salt.
It hits this basin and leaves this salt basin behind it.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
tim pool
Alan Cardinal says, Tim and Ian, can you wish Jill, my mother, happy birthday?
She's your biggest fan.
Happy birthday, Jill!
ian crossland
Happy birthday, Jill!
tim pool
Thanks for watching the show.
libby emmons
Big day!
tim pool
Purple says people are acting like there isn't one innocent person in Gaza.
Well, that's an interesting conundrum.
libby emmons
That's like Sodom and Gomorrah.
tim pool
If there's one righteous person in Gaza, then they must spare it.
libby emmons
Well, actually, God, you know, they had the whole negotiation, and God was like, you know, they got him down to 10, and it's like, yeah, if there's 10 good men... Got him to one.
Yeah, but there was one, and the angels went, and they hung out with Lot, right?
tim pool
They pulled the good people from the city and then blew it up.
libby emmons
And they took the one guy out.
They were like, we won't spare the city for one guy.
We'll spare the guy, but not the city.
tim pool
Oh, right, right, right, right, right.
libby emmons
So they did not spare the city for one guy.
tim pool
If you can go in and get those righteous people out, I suppose biblically then it's fine?
libby emmons
Is that the evidence?
No, it's just if there's less than ten, biblically.
unidentified
But there are innocent people in Gaza.
But there's of course many more, of course there are.
libby emmons
I'm just going with the story.
unidentified
And Israel is probably doing more than any country in history to try and protect them.
tim pool
So, Banana Watch superchatted, I think, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, Israel funded Hamas, Israel funded Hamas.
ian crossland
Wait a minute, say that again.
tim pool
Banana Watch said, in numerous superchats, Israel funded Hamas, Israel funded Hamas.
ian crossland
That I was told by Scott Horton.
I don't know if it's true or not, but I heard that they built it to counter-oppose the PLO, to make the two-state solution more challenging for them.
And then they had two enemies that hated each other.
Could be wrong, I don't know.
unidentified
I've heard this, but I've seen Destiny go over this on his Wikipedia, as he's been criticized for.
And essentially, some people are arguing that that's the government over there, and Israel has to transfer aid.
And they stopped transferring it through the PLO who would just transfer it to this other body and like money would go missing on the way.
But like, I don't know.
Like, that's the more defensible explanation that I've heard.
Well, you know, maybe it's like what we did with Iran and Iraq.
You know, kept them at each other's throats, too.
It's just... Possible, yeah.
Geopolitics.
tim pool
Devin Porter says, Tim, I'd love to help draw the coffee shops to flush out the general aesthetic and franchise design.
I also offered to draw the display case for the Civil War flag, but I haven't heard back from SCNR or Ian.
I'm BuilderGuy87, if you're interested.
We likely will not have the Civil War flag, because we can't cover the liability for it.
We cannot accept a loaner for several hundred thousand dollar objects, because our insurance companies are like, we will cancel you in two seconds.
Because we're not going to assume that.
It's like, okay, well we probably can't do that.
As for the coffee shops, we've already done everything.
Everything's done.
I can't say much about it because there's like laws or something, but we are really, really close to the process and it's going to be fantastic.
unidentified
If you haven't already, you should like push this as a third place, you know?
tim pool
That's what it is.
So one of the ideas is Saturday morning cartoons where Saturday's at like 6 a.m., families bring their kids, the shop will get catering, Kids can hang out.
On the TVs, they're playing wholesome, family-friendly cartoons and educational stuff.
The parents are networking with each other.
At our building in Martinsburg, on the second floor, we have a private club for Timcast Elite members.
So, if you're a member at 100 bucks a month, when this opens, you'll have a key fob, and you walk up there and go, doot, and it opens up and you can come hang out.
There'll be hours.
It'll probably be, like, you know, 9 to, like, 11 p.m.
every day or something.
And there'll be drinks and snacks.
And the purpose of the $100 a month, we're not making profit off this.
Trust me, having a podcast that reaches millions of people, there's way better ways to monetize.
But it covers the cost of staff, food, drinks, games, and everything.
So we wanted to create a social club like they have in New York and Los Angeles and Hollywood and all that stuff where these liberal elites get together and then talk business.
Trump's got his, of course, at Mar-a-Lago.
We want ours for Appalachia.
Where the plumber can come and hang out and talk with his buddies who, one guy works the post office and one guy's a mechanic, and they can be like, did you hear what this a-hole over at City Hall's trying to do?
That organizing is how you win a culture war.
libby emmons
Well, it would be great too.
It's a nice way to find a plumber.
tim pool
What do you mean?
libby emmons
I mean, it's hard to find people who are going to come do stuff and fix your house.
unidentified
That's true.
ian crossland
Have you used Public Square?
libby emmons
To find a plumber?
unidentified
Maybe.
ian crossland
I don't know.
I haven't tried yet.
libby emmons
Is that a thing?
ian crossland
Hopefully.
If not, a bunch of plumbers are signing up as we speak.
libby emmons
I was literally looking at tea on Public Square right now.
unidentified
Listen, South Park has predicted once AI takes over, those guys are going to be billionaires.
libby emmons
Right?
Because people don't know how to do stuff.
ian crossland
I've been told that as the computers take control or start to take over, it's the things that require manual dexterity that will still You remove everybody.
unidentified
You know, the people that keep the world turning are the plumbers and the exterminators and the mechanics.
You remove them.
libby emmons
Maintenance people.
unidentified
Yeah.
libby emmons
Garbage collectors.
tim pool
Handyman services.
Charlestown.
That easy.
libby emmons
Yeah, I'm checking it out right here.
unidentified
Nice.
You know, you get rid of guys like me.
Some people might miss me for a week, but the world keeps turning.
tim pool
Comstock plumbing and pump in Ransom.
libby emmons
Okay.
ian crossland
Shout out.
tim pool
This is amazing.
Yeah.
Public Square is so amazing.
Those are great songs.
I'm so excited this thing exists.
ian crossland
Yeah, really.
unidentified
Learn a trade.
Yeah?
libby emmons
My son was telling me the other day, he was like, first he asked me, what are trades?
And I told him, and he was like, maybe I want to do that.
And I was like, for sure, you could do that.
unidentified
Definitely.
libby emmons
And you can always have passion projects on the side, because he's also really into making music.
tim pool
Man, if you're in a city like Chicago, New York, or LA, you gotta get Public Square.
ian crossland
Yeah, I think Amazon's going to try and buy them eventually, I bet, if they haven't already.
libby emmons
Well, but why would they sell to Amazon?
ian crossland
They're going to offer them like a $10 billion, $50 billion or something.
No way.
And he'll be like, no.
I have a feeling anyway.
tim pool
The value proposition of Public Square is that you know these people aren't crackpot a-hole cultists.
libby emmons
Yes, it's beyond that.
tim pool
Like Amazon, no.
Yeah, it's like you sell to Amazon.
Dude.
This is amazing.
You go to Chicago and there's so many businesses.
If you are in Chicago, New York, or LA, you need to have this because in Chicago, in the belly of the beast of these Democrat strongholds, there are businesses that outright say like, hey man, we're with you.
There's a kombucha place on Public Square.
ian crossland
That sounds good.
tim pool
You have to swear like that.
You have to say like, yes, I support American values and the family and all that stuff.
It's so cool.
unidentified
Alright, I'm downloading it.
I took the hint, Tim.
ian crossland
Yeah, it's good.
unidentified
They better hope the locals don't fight.
Otherwise they're gonna get boycotted.
You can see that happening.
You can see the backlash happening in those blue cities.
Oh wait, you pledged you loved America?
Now we're gonna come out and kick it.
tim pool
Hundreds of thousands of businesses in Chicago, and you can find what looks like a couple hundred businesses that have signed up for Public Square.
ian crossland
Kind of the way it should be.
I don't think they should have to feel like they have to fly a flag to be like, hey, everyone in the world, just acknowledge it on a piece of paper in the back.
That's all you need.
tim pool
I believe in this country.
I believe in our rights, the Constitution and family and our values.
That's awesome.
unidentified
It should be basic.
It shouldn't be controversial at all.
tim pool
For us out here in West Virginia, it's pretty easy because you walk in and you're like, America!
And they go, yeah!
Because we're in MAGA country.
Even Western Maryland is MAGA country.
I was saying, there's a bar in the Maryland panhandle in Western Maryland.
And they had the Trump riding the velociraptor with the machine gun or whatever.
And I'm like, you know, you don't need, you don't need, you know, they should be on public square, but we know out here, but like, if you're in New York, you, you could intentionally give your money to businesses that have said, I believe in this country and our values and all these things and reject.
It's like basically just saying no woke.
None of that.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
tim pool
That's rad.
unidentified
All right.
All right.
tim pool
We'll read some more super chats.
Okay, Ayub Matan says, man, Tim, have some diversity.
Nothing but Zionists.
Expect, uh, except Ian. At least have some moderates. Ask the panel,
except Ian, if Islam is inherently violent. Here's what I love about the, the Israel derangement syndrome.
Okay, they call everyone Zionists.
Like, the way the woke call people white supremacists, you're like, I think scheduling is important.
You're a white supremacist!
You go, uh, I actually don't care about Israel or the moral arguments of Israel-Palestine.
I can understand why Israel went to war.
You're a Zionist!
It's like, okay, I have no idea what you're talking about.
ian crossland
Yeah, I acknowledge Israel's, well, right to exist.
I mean, I acknowledge its right to exist in that de facto it exists.
There's no denying that.
And every human has a right to defend themself.
I'll go that far.
I'm talking about Zionism.
If you talk about, do I support, like, the creation of an ethno-state in that?
That's another conversation.
tim pool
So, I got people on Twitter, and prominent people, not like random accounts, saying that I'm a Zionist.
And it's like, my position is that the U.S.
should cut all funding to Israel.
And they're like, Zionist.
And I'm like, huh?
unidentified
If you go to my Twitter account, my profile says one word, Zionist.
ian crossland
What does it mean?
unidentified
I don't even know.
I just know that it upsets the squares.
Isn't it originally just you think that the Jewish people should have a state?
ian crossland
Yeah, I'm reading it now.
It's a political movement for the establishment of a Jewish nation-state in the area of Palestine since 1860.
tim pool
Right, so it's like calling someone a white supremacist.
You're like, I don't have any strong opinions on that at all, and I don't think we should be involved or funding it.
And they're like, well, then you're a Zionist.
ian crossland
It was a political movement.
tim pool
Unless you think...
To many of these people, the only way to not be a Zionist is to argue that Israel should not exist.
unidentified
Right, right.
tim pool
And I'm like, well, I'm not getting involved in your war, dude.
I'm not going to argue for the cases of Burma either.
I'm not going to talk about Tibet.
unidentified
It's the same reason I have a coffee cup with a rebel flag on it.
It just upsets the uptight squares.
I want to, I don't want to undo the Israel.
ian crossland
I want to bring the Jews and the Arabs all and the Muslims together to worship like Abraham what we all come from.
Like let's acknowledge that together and go deeper.
tim pool
All right, Patriot American says, I've been going to Lancaster since I was a baby, and I had no clue that yayo came from a plant.
I thought it was just heroin and weed that came from plants.
ian crossland
The cacao plant?
No, no.
tim pool
Yayo.
libby emmons
It's like coca.
ian crossland
Coca plant.
Yeah, not cacao, coca.
libby emmons
And in the mountains in Peru, in the Andes or whatever, they chew on coca leaves.
ian crossland
I sucked on that.
When I was in Peru?
libby emmons
Go climbing around, yeah.
ian crossland
We take the coca leaf, you put a little tobacco in it, just pure like sticky tobacco, and then you fold up the leaf and stick it up in your lip, and suck on it for like 20 minutes.
libby emmons
That's like Zen, right?
tim pool
It really works.
Ginger MacIsaac says, the latest geographical evidence is an asteroid strike that smote Saddam and Gomorrah.
They're an area that had fractional glass just east of the Dead Sea area.
unidentified
You can look at any miracle in the Bible and they'll find a natural reason for it, like the parting of the Red Sea.
There are everything, even the blood, how the Red Sea turned red.
That happens!
There's like algae in that area.
Yeah, you see that.
It's like naturalist explanations for the Bible.
tim pool
But, and that's fine, because this is the question, like, when miracles are obvious, they're obvious.
But if God takes action, does he not take action through the natural means of the universe?
unidentified
Exactly.
Yeah, exactly.
I think God should break microscopes, because they'd be cheating.
Because the water turns red, where, like, it's blood, and then when you get a microscope, you're like, oh, it's a bacteria.
I don't think it's cheating.
No, it's cheating for us to figure it out.
It's better to scare them.
ian crossland
Oh, because they say we'll run red with blood?
Is that specific?
They say with blood in the Bible?
unidentified
Yeah.
And maybe he just put algae there.
So he's like, I didn't want to bring blood and now you guys are calling me out.
He should just ban microscopes.
ian crossland
You make a good argument that we're not in the end times.
I appreciate it.
unidentified
But it's, you know, I don't think it's a coincidence that Moses or Charlton Heston, whoever it was, says these things are going to happen and then these natural things happen to make them happen.
tim pool
We'll get one more in.
Budgeye says, maybe God was upset since Trump is selling his own version of the Bible.
libby emmons
Isn't it just the King James Version of the Bible?
tim pool
But it's like a Trump version, isn't it?
libby emmons
But it's just got like Trump branding on it?
tim pool
Is that what it is?
libby emmons
Yeah, I think it's a Bible with Trump branding.
tim pool
Was Trump smote for selling a Trump Bible?
ian crossland
It sounds like a warning.
libby emmons
Trump will sell anything.
unidentified
Wow.
libby emmons
And he's good at it.
That's why he'll sell anything because he keeps doing it.
ian crossland
They'll do that for you after you're gone, man.
You don't have to force that yet.
unidentified
That's a good comment.
ian crossland
Live your best life, brother.
unidentified
He is profiting off the Bible.
How big is the Trump name in comparison to the Holy Bible?
ian crossland
The Holy Trump Bible!
unidentified
You see how he signs his name, it takes half the page?
tim pool
So the problem is, normally when you search for a product, you get the product, but because— All I'm getting is news.
It's all just news.
unidentified
It's just hate.
tim pool
How do I know this even exists?
libby emmons
Well, the AP says it costs $59.99.
Sure, and how do I find it?
Yeah, I got no idea.
You know where you could find it?
Maybe it's on Public Square.
ian crossland
Public Square, for sure.
tim pool
Maybe the Trump store?
ian crossland
Oh, I didn't know he had a store.
unidentified
Maybe with shipping, the reason why he got the earthquake is with shipping it works out to like $66.66.
That's the problem he has.
tim pool
Dude, I don't know how you actually buy the Trump Bible.
libby emmons
I don't either.
tim pool
It's all just news.
You Google it, nothing but news comes up.
libby emmons
Mother Jones is unhappy about it.
ian crossland
All right, if I'd known this when we were talking about the earthquake.
unidentified
Mother Jones?
libby emmons
Yeah, you know that magazine.
I'm just joking around here, you know?
ian crossland
Bro, I'm not even like religious or spiritual that much.
Like, I'm really literally deep down like a common sense kind of guy, but if he put his name on a Bible and there was an earthquake... I don't think he did.
unidentified
I think it's called the God Bless the USA Bible.
That's what it says on it.
It's more Lee Greenwood, actually, than Trump, if I remember correctly.
tim pool
Yeah, it is.
You're right.
Lee Greenwood, and it says God Bless the USA Bible.
libby emmons
That's not, why is that a bad thing?
tim pool
Because it's Trump.
Yeah, because it's Trump.
libby emmons
But he's gonna sell anything.
He's got legal fees.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
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unidentified
I've just had a great time.
I appreciate you guys inviting me.
This is a blast.
Thank you.
Nice meeting y'all, too.
I want to shout out NuanceBro.
Love you, buddy.
And I love you, Tony Ortiz, the current Revolt Texas paper of record.
My best friends in the whole world.
libby emmons
I'd like to shout out The Postmillennial.
You can come check out what we're doing at thepostmillennial.com and also Human Events.
You can see what we've got going on at humanevents.com.
And I am a member of Timcast, so you all should jump in and do that.
ian crossland
Oh, I thought you meant like you got hired by the company for a second.
libby emmons
No, I pay my subscription.
ian crossland
I'm Ian Crossland, so follow me at Ian Crossland.
That's usually my social media name.
And John, people are going to follow you at Nolte NC.
unidentified
Nolte NC.
They can see me.
I write about 15 pieces a week at Bright Part.
I wrote a novel called Borrowed Time.
If people want to check that out, it's getting great reviews on It's about a guy who lives forever.
He's immortal, but he's a normal guy.
He's not a Dracula or a superhero or anything, and it just takes him through to the end of the world.
And it's a guy 10,000 years old, borrowed time, and he could look at our culture from a perspective we can't.
ian crossland
Oh, that's awesome.
That sounds a lot like Ishmael, that book that Alex Jones quotes about the gorilla, who's a psychic gorilla.
He's like, I'm a gorilla.
That's awesome.
And it's N-O-L-T-E-N-C.
unidentified
N-O-L-T-E-N-C.
ian crossland
And it does say Zionist on your profile.
unidentified
It's impressive.
It does.
Yes, it does.
ian crossland
Good to see you, man.
Bye, everyone.
unidentified
And I'm Serge.
I hope you guys have a good weekend.
Catch you later.
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