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March 28, 2024 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Trump SLAMS Democrat Crime At Officer's Wake As Dems FREE CRIMINALS w/Marc Lobliner | Timcast IRL
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tim pool
Today Donald Trump attended the wake for a fallen officer and he slammed Democrat crime
policy where they're releasing criminals.
This guy who killed this officer had been arrested 21 times.
So, of course, many people have stepped up to help the family, and there's a really, really great story about how Trump—I think this is the story, I don't want to get it wrong, so maybe I'll just save it for the segment—but basically got helped to get the families' home paid for and stuff like that.
I'll keep it vague in the intro, we'll read the story.
In the meantime, however, Joe Biden He's attending a party with Lizzo!
Alright, yeah, we're all very excited.
It's very expensive.
They say it's the most successful fundraiser ever.
Obama's gonna be there.
Clinton's gonna be there.
You got Mindy Kaling.
Nah, come on, if you were the president, where would you rather be?
Fallen officer?
Party with Lizzo.
Yeah, we know Biden's priorities.
I wonder what your priorities are.
We'll talk about that, plus the other big news coming out of New York while Donald Trump is complaining about the crime from Democrats.
Women are getting punched in the face!
A lot!
So much so that NBC News has actually run, this is a big story, and talk shows are actually bringing it up, that what's happening in New York where people are going around, guys, and just punching women in the face.
Well, everyone's mad at me because I said I thought it was funny.
But, uh, I gotta be honest.
They arrested Daniel Penney.
They voted to release criminals.
They banned guns.
What did you think was going to happen?
Why wouldn't I laugh?
They're living the way they want to live.
I don't know what the problem is.
Why would you be mad at me for being like, well, you got what you asked for.
Congratulations.
It's everything you've ever wanted.
We'll talk about that, plus a bunch of other stories.
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Joining us tonight to talk about this and everything else is Mark Loebliner.
marc lobliner
Thanks for having me, man.
Good to be back.
tim pool
Absolutely.
Who are you?
What do you do?
marc lobliner
So I'm Mark Loebliner.
I'm the chief marketing officer, tigerfitness.com, CEO of MTS Nutrition, also a founding partner of Ambrosia, the number one plant protein at Sprouts and the Vitamin Shop.
And I own a youth performance facility in Franklin, Tennessee called Legacy at Carbon.
I'm here, I'm excited to be back, and man, so much crazy stuff going on!
tim pool
You look like you work out.
marc lobliner
A little bit.
I'm also an IFBB pro bodybuilder.
I'm not very good.
I'm not very good, but I still get up there.
I put on the little thong and I do my thing.
tim pool
You know what I love is that there's a bunch of leftists.
So I recently have been talking quite a bit.
I got a personal trainer.
marc lobliner
You look great, by the way.
tim pool
I've added lifting to my routine and tracking my macros and I feel better than ever.
It's fantastic.
So, I had a couple workouts in the past week where it's like 1,500 calories in a three-hour session, just super intense, VO2 max, all that good stuff.
And so I'm feeling great, and we've challenged our audience to get fit by November.
If there's anything we can do to take responsibility for ourselves and our bodies, it's just to get in shape and stuff like that.
But the left is saying it's a grift, the fitness grift.
Yes, heaven forbid we tell our viewers to be responsible and healthy and live long lives.
marc lobliner
Well, when I was growing up, it always seemed like the liberals were the ones who were in shape, right?
Just seemed like the Jane Fonda and all that.
But suddenly, training has become white supremacy.
Weight training is white supremacy.
If you go to any gym, the most jacked guys, they're usually black.
So nobody gave them the memo!
tim pool
Yeah, it's far right now, but thanks for hanging out.
It should be fun.
We've got Hannah-Claire hanging out.
hannah claire brimelow
Hey, I'm Hannah-Claire Brimlow.
I'm a writer for SCNR.com.
I'm really looking forward to tonight's conversation.
I'm so happy because Allad's here tonight.
elad eliahu
What's up, Hannah-Claire?
My name's Allad Eliyahu.
I'm a field reporter here at Timcast.
Hey, what's up, Serge?
unidentified
Hey, Ro.
marc lobliner
Glad you made it.
unidentified
Thanks for being here, man.
Let's just get to a 10 whenever.
tim pool
Well, here's the big news.
Donald Trump slams murder of NYPD cop Jonathan Diller by serial criminal as he attends slain officer's wake.
We have to toughen it up.
These things can't happen.
Look, there's the obvious and tremendous respect that I have for Donald Trump.
And I know I can already hear everyone getting ready to type in those comments where they say that I've been very critical of the police, and I think that criticism still stands.
And I can be critical of police while still respecting the duty of an officer who was killed because of Democrats' failed policies.
Understanding that, y'all understand, I actually like the institution of police.
I think we have a problem today.
But outside of my personal views, I want to just stress the importance of who Donald Trump is.
Who is actually taking time out of his day to go and meet with officers, to speak at this event, and help the family.
In the meantime, Joe Biden is at a fundraiser, hanging out with Obama and Lizzo, where the highest-end ticket is $500,000, and it is plainly obvious the priorities of this country.
I think it's fair to have criticisms of government agents, of the police, especially the Capitol Police, while still recognizing that there is respect for civic duty, and disdain for it, or disregard for it.
And that's what's currently happening.
So who are you voting for?
marc lobliner
Well, obviously I'm voting for Donald Trump.
Yeah.
There's really no choice in this matter.
But I think what we're seeing here is the division of the parties.
And this is the greatest example I think we've seen to date of what's happening, is that back in the day, you looked at Democrats were the party of the people, the party of the union, the union workers.
Now you have Biden with Lizzo and Obama at a star-studded gala.
And yet Trump is out there with the people, slain officers, their families.
He's doing what needs to be done.
So we're seeing the ultimate description right now of the divide that we're having, where the Democrat Party is no longer the party of the people.
It's no longer the party of the working class.
It's the party of the haves.
tim pool
I agree.
I heard the story, so please someone fact check me this wrong, because I just saw it on Twitter, where they said that Trump immediately contacted the wife, spoke with her about it, and then right after he got off the phone, tunnels to towers, called her and said, your home is paid for.
Is that, is that, did you hear that?
hannah claire brimelow
I saw that on Twitter too, but I didn't, I haven't verified it yet.
tim pool
So I heard that, I don't know if that's true.
hannah claire brimelow
CBS News is reporting that Tunnels for Towers will pay off his mortgage on their Long Island home, but I don't know that it's specifically because of Trump.
It's not clear to me.
tim pool
Well, right, right, right.
So the story as I saw it was that Trump called up, said, you know, how are you, hope everything's good, asked what they needed.
And then got off the phone and then immediately Tunnels to Towers contacted her and said, your home's taken care of.
So it could be, right, independent of that.
But at the very least, many people are giving Trump credit for contacting the family and giving his condolences.
You know, the issue here and the reason why this is so obviously in the spotlight is that we have a criminal immigration, criminal alien invasion.
You've got people storming the border, fighting National Guard.
Crime is getting insane in New York while Democrats are releasing criminals.
Well, it appears that everything's burning down.
I mean, prices are going up and then they're denying it.
Bill Maher, at the very least, said Joe Biden's going to lose because hot dogs are more expensive.
The most smarmy way of describing that.
Yeah, hot dogs.
Regular working class people like to buy hot dogs for their family.
That's that's like basic food stuff when you go to the supermarket.
And he smugly says, oh, it's more expensive.
Yeah, right.
People can't afford to eat.
And I'm watching all of this.
We're hearing these stories of people getting pushed in front of trains.
We're hearing these stories of women getting punched in the face in New York.
And Joe Biden's at a party.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, it shows you who's acting presidential.
That's the big criticism of Trump all the time, that he doesn't act like a president, that he doesn't, you know, speak the right way or do the right thing or he's too brash or whatever.
And in this case, he's with the family of an officer who lost his life.
Because of a failed federal policy or a leftist policy.
And then you have two former Democratic presidents.
Bill Clinton was there and Obama and the current incumbent Democratic president raising money with pop stars who I also don't think really necessarily represent our values as a country.
I mean, who if one is the president, which which form of a president would you want?
The one that's trying to fundraise or the one that's actually with people who need him?
tim pool
Or I'll put it this way.
The left will say, oh, Trump's only doing this to fundraise.
Or to make money or for political points or whatever.
My response would be like, okay, then let's say you have two presidents who are trying to fundraise Trump by honoring a fallen officer and spending time at the wake and speaking about it or partying.
Even if this is all just politics for Trump, I would rather a president pretend to care than a president just literally not care at all.
marc lobliner
Whatever happened to optics?
Right?
So optics are everything in politics.
It's everything in everything.
It's everything in business, right?
You want to have the proper optics.
If anything, Biden should have just faked it because, you know, he doesn't care.
Biden doesn't know where he is right now.
tim pool
He can't care.
marc lobliner
He can't.
tim pool
He doesn't know.
marc lobliner
It's there's nothing in there.
The wheel is spinning, but the hamster is dead.
All right.
So Biden doesn't know where he is.
But you think that someone there would be like, hey, Trump is one upping us.
But here's the problem.
Is that these people with Trump derangement syndrome hate him so much, this guy could literally cure cancer.
He could literally do everything right, which he's doing.
And they will still say he's more evil than Biden, who is out there partying with whatever Lizzo is.
I believe she's classifies as a blimp and he's out there partying with her instead of honoring this, this, uh, this fallen soldier, I'd like to say.
elad eliahu
I think one of the biggest and most unfortunate things about the recent crimes that we've seen in New York City between this cop getting shot and the person getting shoved onto the subway and killed is that the people who are committing these crimes are repeat offenders.
I'm reading from the story here that there were two people in the car.
One of the people who shot back at this officer.
Both have dozens of prior arrests.
The person who shoved the lady onto the subway also had many prior arrests.
I'm also willing to bet the person going around punching women in the face near Washington Square.
tim pool
It's not one guy!
elad eliahu
I bet it's a handful of people who are repeat offenders.
There's a serious one percenter issue with committing crimes in the city, and the city needs to be willing to involuntarily institutionalize a lot of these people, but there just doesn't seem to be the political will to do that.
tim pool
I can shorten that for you and just say, arrest.
elad eliahu
Yeah, I mean, but also like, there's some people who, it needs to go beyond arrest, the people who can't take care of themselves, who are a threat to themselves and others.
There are a ton of these people running around the area where we're seeing women get decked around.
And again, it's just really unfortunate because these are self-inflicted wounds.
These aren't things that are beyond, you know, the government's capability to help prevent, so.
tim pool
Well, it says here the guy was arrested 21 times.
marc lobliner
So here's the thing.
Now, we need to be critical of police officers, right?
We need to be critical of everybody in a society.
Imagine if you're an NYPD officer, and I'm friends with a lot of NYPD officers.
Imagine if you're arresting these guys just to have these Soros-funded DAs send them on the streets.
You go to work every day and keep in mind these guys, I know this is not the argument you guys want to hear, especially Tim, But they have families, they have mortgages, they have pensions they've already put 20 years in, they have another 10 to hit their 30.
So they're arresting them, they're letting them back out.
Imagine how demoralizing it is as a police officer.
Because a lot of these guys, they want to arrest criminals.
A lot of cops get into policing to do the right thing.
tim pool
It's a negative pressure system and I don't accept it.
marc lobliner
I don't either.
tim pool
What is happening now, and my criticism for the system of policing, primarily in say New York or Chicago or LA, is that we'll target New York specifically.
They arrest a guy who's threatening to kill people, and he gets released right away.
marc lobliner
Yes.
tim pool
They know, if I try and stop this guy, nothing will happen.
You also have stories where, for instance, Luke Rutkowski.
There was a guy on the train, someone started stabbing people, and the cops said, we're not getting involved, because we have no legal obligation.
The courts ruled, the cops don't have an obligation to actually intervene.
So what ends up happening is this.
You have a scenario where cops either say, I can't stop the guy because maybe there's someone on a murderous rampage and they're ill-equipped.
They say, even if I try to stop the guy, he'll get released.
And then you have a system where Daniel Penney cooperates and they say, ah, now there's a guy I can arrest because he won't fight back.
This negative pressure system means innocent people are more likely to be imprisoned, honest people are more likely to be imprisoned, and criminals are more likely to get away.
This is what we're seeing in New York.
Not a single NYPD officer should be accepting anything to do with transporting, detaining, or guarding Penny.
Daniel Penny, the moment that whole thing happened with Jordan kneeling in the train, threatening to kill people, the cops should have been like, I'm not touching that man.
When the supervisor says, arrest him, he's being charged, I ain't touching him.
But what do you get?
You get cops with a smile on their faces being like, this one's easy.
So it's not about the individual cop.
It's about the fact that if Daniel Penny wasn't arrested, And every single officer said no, and the police union issued a statement saying, we will not be involved.
You're going to have to call state police to deal with this, because we will not.
And state police did the same thing.
Penny would say, what are you going to do?
And then maybe the criminals might be like, uh-oh, we better stop trying to kill people.
I watched a video.
Of a guy in New York stabbing someone, I believe.
It's crazy because there's too many of these videos.
They're just all over the place.
And you've got people hiding and trying to run from the trains, and I'm like, man, this is nuts.
And what happens?
These people don't get caught or arrested.
The cops say, well, even if we arrest them, they're going to be let go.
Then why did you arrest Penny?
Why is there a video of Daniel Penny in cuffs being led into a building?
marc lobliner
I 100% agree that there is accountability with the cops.
unidentified
100%.
marc lobliner
However, it's top down.
It starts from the voters.
The voters are electing these people that are putting through these policies.
They are voting for this.
The cops are like, this is what these people want.
These New Yorkers are getting what they voted for.
Who am I to say?
elad eliahu
Mark, there's something you said that I used to believe is true, but I don't think is anymore.
And it's when you said you think people join the NYPD or different cop forces to try to fight crime.
I used to believe that was true.
But nowadays, just with seeing how the NYPD performs, it doesn't feel like that anymore.
It feels like people are in it for a job.
Many of them seem incompetent.
There's also a feeling that they're there for the wrong reasons and aren't really trying to affect change.
I'm not a proponent of hopping turnstiles, but when we see a lot of cops in the subways, that's what it feels like they're there for, because I live in Brooklyn, and I ride the subway often, and the people who the cops seem to stop are the people who are hopping turnstiles.
Again, that's wrong, and I'm not a proponent of that, but I also see a ton of homeless people actually committing crimes on the subway, or just people who probably should be involuntarily institutionalized riding on the subway, that You know, they should probably be dealing with instead.
I understand there's a current culture of defunding the police and demoralizing the police, and they're dealing with a very tough time.
But half of the NYPD does seem incompetent or doesn't want to do their job or are demoralized.
And I don't fully blame them.
I'm sympathetic towards them, but they aren't living up to what I think the expectations are.
marc lobliner
And I'm not going to throw in the whole there's good cops and bad cops thing.
That's a stupid argument.
What I'm saying is that you get what you allow to happen.
You get what you vote for, and that's what we're getting here.
You don't see that stuff happen in, remember, try that in a small town.
You just don't see it happen.
You're not going to see the Franklin, Tennessee Police Department do stuff like that.
They're going to uphold what they need to uphold.
Like during COVID, we can say COVID now, right?
During the times of COVID, I remember watching the news and I remember seeing these cops arresting moms at playgrounds, arresting people alone on the beach.
And I'm in Franklin and I'm like, whoa, there's a cop at the park.
There's a mom in the swing and the cop starts walking out towards them.
And I'm like, oh, I'm a film this man.
I'm going viral.
Cop went and pushed the kid on the swing.
tim pool
Okay, there's a difference. Yeah, but in in South Jersey, which is an area
They pulled an outside cops to go shut down a till his gym and the cops went and did it in
Minnesota a woman opened her cafe. So they threatened her with arrest
She fled to Iowa and the sheriff's department actually tracked her down and arrested her in
Texas a woman opened her salon and she got arrested too. So, you know, look it is
It is not the individual officers and I totally can respect them
And that's why you're gonna get stories of hero cops because they're heroes
You're gonna hear stories of good cops who give people reasonable warnings and actually police their communities in reasonable and thoughtful ways, and then you're gonna get stories of the institution in general and the pressure that exists Where it is more difficult to go after a deranged lunatic with a gun than it is Daniel Penny.
And that's why we see people like Penny in prison and these criminals being let go.
Now that's mainly New York, and I can accept that.
But even in Texas, you have Daniel Perry, a guy who was an Uber driver.
And these far leftists, during the George Floyd riots, come up to his car.
One guy's got a rifle at low ready.
And when he walks into the car with his rifle at low ready, the guy shoots him in defense.
Now, why would he shoot?
What's his reasonable expectation?
In Provo, Utah, a far leftist went up to a car for no reason and shot the guy.
We had, uh, you had the guy Aaron Danielson in, I believe, was it Portland?
Far leftist walked up to him, Michael Reinholdt, put two bolts in his chest.
This guy goes to prison.
You have the Proud Boys at a Gavin McInnes event in New York.
Antifa shows up harassing the patrons of this event, and when they come out, Antifa starts a fight with them.
They engage.
They choose to run at Antifa and engage in this fight.
And when the police show up afterwards, the Proud Boys, with smiles on their faces, said, Thank you, officer.
Here's my information.
You know what the cops said?
Awesome.
Now you're going to prison for four years, and Antifa gets to go home.
Antifa ran off, and the cops said, We don't care.
We don't know who they are.
You're going to prison, and locked up the Proud Boys.
You can argue that police are good, you can argue we gotta back the blue, but you at least need to understand the system as it's set up is pressurized.
So if you are honest and you are cooperating, you will go to jail.
And if you are a criminal who lies, cheats, and steals, you will not.
marc lobliner
That's exactly what's happening.
And again, it's systemic.
We can't just blame the cops.
We need to blame the cops.
But we also need to look at the system around them that is causing them to make these decisions.
And again, there's a reason why I'm not a cop.
I could never do that.
I would have quit.
But the problem is they already chased off all the good cops.
They chased them off during 2020.
The people who would not comply with unconstitutional orders.
tim pool
And now they're DEI communists.
marc lobliner
Pretty much, yeah.
tim pool
I mean, this is something people need to consider.
How many officers in New York who resigned because of the abuse they were getting were replaced by diversity and inclusivity, woke communist types.
At some point, there's going to be a communist wearing a communist hat with a NYPD badge, and there's going to be some conservatives going to be like, thank you officer, back the blue, and they're going to throw him in a gulag.
So recognize, you may like the institution of policing, but we need to pay attention to what's going on.
Absolutely.
Let's talk a bit about Joe Biden, though.
So we have this from Axios.
Biden's fundraiser with Obama and Clinton highlights Trump's cash crunch.
Oh no, it's Trump's fault.
Well, my friends, as Joe Biden is hanging out with Obama and Lizzo and others, Trump was at the wake for a fallen officer who was killed due to this career criminal.
Who reportedly, I believe, was released 21 times.
And now here we are.
Congratulations Joe Biden.
He's raised a bunch of money.
They say the Biden campaign is expecting to raise more than $25 million in one night.
Which they say will make it the most successful political fundraiser in American history.
marc lobliner
Wow.
tim pool
Biden's campaign in the DNC ended last month with more than twice as much cash on hand as Trump and the RNC, 44.8 million.
Axios' Zachary Basu and Aaron Doherty report the sold-out fundraiser will only add to the growing cash disparity between the two parties' presumptive nominees.
Yes, because they arrested Trump.
marc lobliner
Yeah.
tim pool
So they arrest Trump and then force him to spend his donations on legal fees while they go out and fundraise and tie him up in court.
I'm gonna say it.
Y'all know what I'm gonna say.
These people are evil.
marc lobliner
There's no real way around what's going on right now.
We've seen Kevin O'Leary go on about what's going on with Trump.
Basically, they can find something to get you on, and the judge can just rule.
So we're in a situation where if they don't like you, if they don't want you to run for something, they will find a way to get you.
They will find a way.
There's no way around it.
Even Donald Trump is not immune to what's happening right now.
They can do it to him, and they're right.
He says this.
They can do it to him.
They can do it to any of us, and they do.
The thing is, we're hearing about it because it happened to Trump.
How many business people have they done this to?
That's what I want to know.
Who have we not heard about?
elad eliahu
It's pretty clear and obvious that if Trump weren't running for president, that not all of these cases would be going against him.
It's also interesting, though, because I don't know how cash-strapped Donald Trump is with dropping the IPO for Truth Social.
But I think the bigger story here is that the Democrat Party is kind of coalescing and unifying.
There's, again, a few former presidents here campaigning with Obama.
The Democrat Party is more or less united, and you can't really say the same about the Republican Party.
I just think that's an important story.
hannah claire brimelow
I think it's interesting because it's always been that way.
I think the Republicans tend to be much more fractured.
To me, what's interesting about the story is you have Biden campaign bragging, we have $25 million.
And for any sort of nonpolitical, maybe leans left, middle American person who is like, what would I do with $25 million?
What would I do with $2,000 right now?
Like how much of a difference could this make in my life?
To have a headline like this where they're like, ha ha, we have more money than Trump does.
It's also like saying to the people like, look, we just are swimming in cash.
If we want money, we get it.
And we don't That's not true for you.
Good luck paying your bills.
Good luck with tax season.
It feels very out of tone deaf to me to have these flashy headlines about money, knowing that so many Americans, even Americans that you're hoping will vote for you, are struggling financially right now.
elad eliahu
Cash is extremely important in campaigns, but I think, if anything, this is an election where it might be its least relevant.
Given both these guys are at 100% name ID, both are former presidents, the amount of earned media that both are getting is astronomical.
tim pool
So I mean, money doesn't hurt, but... There was an interesting point that was made on The Five earlier.
Colbert is going to facilitate the discussion among the presidents.
elad eliahu
I used to like Colbert.
tim pool
Could you imagine?
I think it might have been like Gutfeld said, or one of the guys on The Five, Jesse.
If they did anything like that, they'd be, I think it was Jesse Waters, they'd be out in 10 minutes.
If they said we're going to host a fundraiser for a Republican Fox, we'd be like, are you nuts?
But this is the game they play.
Stephen Colbert goes on TV screaming and lying about Donald Trump, and then goes and hosts fundraisers for As we all know, the only person who should be mediating a debate between Biden and Trump is Theo Vaughn.
hannah claire brimelow
That would be the most hilarious thing I've ever seen in my whole life.
And also, I think more people would feel like they can relate to it than Stephen Colbert, who's been, what, a mainstream media darling for as long as he can remember.
tim pool
You know what, though?
I mean, the night is always darkest before the dawn, they say, and I wonder if this is but a fleeting moment and victory is inevitable.
marc lobliner
It's gonna be hard.
I mean, is Pressler still the guy for the ballot harvesting initiative?
tim pool
I think he is, right?
marc lobliner
Because I heard he's in, he's out.
At the end of the day, it's not your grandfather's election.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, he's still ballot harvesting, it seems like, regardless of the RNC.
I have seen reports that he's not going to formally be with the RNC, but I don't know.
marc lobliner
And whatever, he's kind of the guy.
But looking at what's going on right now, it's not even about the popular vote.
It's who can get people to go out and vote.
Are people mad enough to vote against Trump?
Because no one's voting for Biden.
No, people don't like Biden.
I don't even see Democrats.
They're like, well, I guess he's not Trump.
But the thing is, I think who Trump picks as a running mate makes somewhat of a difference, but not as much.
I think that you're seeing this demographic shift where, am I seeing the Black vote is going in favor more so?
tim pool
Maybe.
I mean, maybe.
They say it every cycle, like, oh, wow, the Black vote's shifting, and then it doesn't.
marc lobliner
Yeah.
tim pool
So we'll see.
marc lobliner
Well, I mean, there are, again, you look at optics, look at what, did you see that kid who was going to the community center to play baseball?
Had his little baseball bat in his bag, was going, and the entire thing was taken over by illegal immigrants.
unidentified
Wow.
marc lobliner
So, I mean, those optics in the black community, because look, I grew up in those communities.
You take away the community center, you take away a kid's life, take away his opportunity, his chances.
You take away sports, that kid's probably not going to make it.
elad eliahu
I think the lack of consensus in the Republican Party, the lack of unity, is again going to be a huge issue for them.
Because even on ballot harvesting, I feel like Republicans can't get on the same page on that.
On mail-in voting, Republicans can't get on the same page.
I'll tell you, Joe Biden and Obama aren't debating whether or not to do ballot harvesting or mail-in voting, but... It's because there's a cult and there's a not-cult.
tim pool
And the not-cult, which is coalescing in the Republican Party, is arguing with itself.
Right, the not-cult is not a unified group, it's not been.
You've got disaffected liberals who don't agree with, you know, you've got libertarian-leaning individuals, and now they're all voting Republican because Democrats are a cult.
elad eliahu
Obama's only 62.
We're never seeing the end of him.
He's going to be doing these fundraisers with the future.
Whoever Democrat is running in three cycles down, Obama will be fundraising for him.
I still think he's the most popular Democrat.
tim pool
And then Robama.
In 20 or 30 years with Neuralink and they transport his brain into a robot body, then Robama.
marc lobliner
There's always Michelle.
tim pool
You know, I'm not so sure she gets involved.
marc lobliner
I don't think so.
elad eliahu
I think the history is her saying she really doesn't want to be involved, but I still think it's such an interesting contrast.
We don't have Bush, you know, trying to fundraise.
marc lobliner
The entire Republican Party, the establishment, they are all publicly against Trump.
You have senators saying they won't vote for Trump.
Didn't Romney say he's not going to vote for Trump?
tim pool
I'll tell you why Michelle Obama will not run.
Because Michelle Obama doesn't like being called a man.
I think if there's one thing you can say to insult a woman, especially an aging woman, I'm pretty sure you're a man.
And so... Women don't like that.
Yeah, women don't like that.
marc lobliner
Chicks don't like that.
tim pool
Michelle Obama, who is a woman and has children, but a lot of people don't believe it, this was a very powerful and clever political tactic to use against a prominent female Democrat.
Whether people legitimately believe Michelle Obama is a man or not, Michello, like, I do not believe Michelle Obama has the strength of will to withstand people screaming you're a man in her face and posting these videos and photoshopping her face and that is a brutal thing to endure and it's effective.
marc lobliner
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, she would only run if she felt either really drawn to power or really drawn to service of the country.
And she has influence.
People care what she says.
She has money.
She doesn't need to be the president to live a very luxurious elite life.
And I don't think she necessarily feels called to serve the people.
elad eliahu
Your wife is a man has always been a very interesting political attack to me.
I think Candace Owens recently said that Macron's wife is a man.
Yeah, I mean, it's a very political attack.
If you want to politically attack somebody, just be like, hey, that person's wife said that's a man.
tim pool
Well, I think when you look at the Instagram data on young women and you see the high rates of depression, it seems based on the current research we have that women are much more susceptible to the negative impacts of trolling than men are.
So you have to imagine, like, You know, what has Obama heard about himself?
He's heard racist things.
He's heard that he's a murderer.
He's had podcasters go on these impassioned and fierce rants, bang the table, about how he murdered 16-year-old Abdur Rahman al-Awlaki and should be tried for war crimes, you know, and how he signed the indefinite detention provision and he drone-striked weddings.
Just podcasters ranting all day and night about how bad... He doesn't care.
marc lobliner
No.
tim pool
He pressed the button.
He knew what he was doing when he did it.
I don't think Michelle Obama can look at the screen with someone showing a zoom in on her crotch, forward and reverse while she's dancing, and they're like, that's a penis.
And I think she looks at that and she's like, I do not want to do this.
I cannot do this.
marc lobliner
That's just terrible.
hannah claire brimelow
Again, what does she get out of it?
Like, unless you feel called to serve the people or you're chasing power, why would you run for president?
unidentified
Right.
hannah claire brimelow
She doesn't feel called to serve and she already has power and influence.
tim pool
Barack, yeah, exactly.
hannah claire brimelow
There's no benefit for her other than to be ridiculed by the press.
elad eliahu
To save the country from Donald Trump.
hannah claire brimelow
But I just said she doesn't feel called to serve.
tim pool
It's not that.
It's not called to serve.
It's if they stand to lose control because they have no one left.
Look, Biden doesn't even count.
Okay?
Biden is like nostalgia for older voters.
You know, that's it.
It's like, remember Obama he is?
That's Biden, and that's all you get.
After him, what are you gonna do?
Hey, here's Buttigieg.
They're gonna be like, nah.
elad eliahu
Michelle doesn't have to run because the Obamas are already in power.
The people who staff Joe Biden's administration are already the Obama administration.
marc lobliner
You got it right.
tim pool
Yeah, you got it right the first time.
elad eliahu
Why even bother running?
You know, just staff with all Obama people.
marc lobliner
Both parties don't really have someone waiting in the wing.
Like there's not a number two.
Would you say there's a number two for either party?
tim pool
Republicans, yes.
marc lobliner
I think there are, yeah.
tim pool
Republicans.
marc lobliner
DeSantis.
tim pool
DeSantis is a coin toss now because of the way he ran his campaign.
marc lobliner
But I think he learned and I think he went up against Trump.
tim pool
And that's true, that's true.
marc lobliner
That's like being a defensive lineman and Tom Brady is standing there right in front of you like, you can't out troll Trump.
elad eliahu
like he doesn't care. Republicans are in deep shit after Donald Trump retires from politics.
There will not be, I don't think the Republicans are going to win another presidential election.
No, because Donald Trump was a once in a generation political figure.
unidentified
But to say that they'll not win for a while, that's ridiculous.
elad eliahu
No, yeah, that's what I think, and we'll see.
But I think Donald Trump will win this upcoming election, but then further down the line, I think the Republicans won't be able to coalesce their coalition.
I think the Republican coalition is fracturing deeply, and more so than the Democrats are.
I disagree.
tim pool
Israel.
elad eliahu
I hope I'm wrong.
tim pool
Israel.
elad eliahu
I hope I'm wrong.
tim pool
The Israel fragmentation with the Democratic Party is substantially worse than anything the Republicans are dealing with.
elad eliahu
I couldn't imagine another figure who could have that charisma and can inspire cult-like attitudes from the public.
Anything similar to Trump.
tim pool
What does that have to do with what I'm talking about?
elad eliahu
Because that's what I think it requires to inspire and win.
marc lobliner
Look at Minnesota.
Biden's actually going and spending some time in Minnesota now because the Palestine-Israel thing is driving that.
Even that base.
Imagine, you have a stronghold like Minnesota.
tim pool
And Dearborn.
marc lobliner
Yeah.
tim pool
They voted, what did they vote?
Nobody or whatever?
marc lobliner
They literally voted for nobody.
Nobody won.
Nobody won.
So if you look at what's going on with Israel and Palestine, that is the issue because Jews, man, my people, they love them some Democrats.
Democrats can literally go out and say, hey, we don't like the Jews.
He's like, cool.
I'll vote for Obama.
That's fine.
No big deal.
Sounds right.
Because Jews are traditionally Democrat.
And then you have the other side, the Palestinian backers.
tim pool
That's changing.
And this is the point I'm making.
marc lobliner
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
I don't think that's going to fly much longer.
The fragmentation is already there.
Michael Rapoport.
He went to Israel recently, and he's posting a video where he's like, I don't see no apartheid or whatever, which I thought was fairly ignorant, but that's fine.
I'm not going to argue Israel.
But the point is, this is a guy who hates Trump, who's now like, I was wrong about Trump.
elad eliahu
There's similar fracturing within parts of the Republican Party over Israel as well, though.
I don't think that's unique to the Democrats.
I think it's just as vocal.
The anti-Israel parts of the Republican Party are right.
tim pool
The anti-Israel parts of the Republican Party are like the why are we funding Israel part part.
And so you have a wide range of people who are like you know like us for instance
my attitude and I think many people who are here say for me like one or two is
we should not be involved in foreign spending for these countries anymore.
elad eliahu
Freedom caucus types.
unidentified
Right.
marc lobliner
Yeah.
tim pool
And so that will align with the critical of Zionist, you know, pro-Palestine side because it's like, hey, we don't need to have a moral argument on this one.
How about we just start with no more foreign funding.
That works for you, works for me.
Okay, now go argue your morals somewhere else.
hannah claire brimelow
I think you have to look down the bench is the problem.
With Republicans, should Trump be elected in November, they have four more years to set up a predecessor to Trump, right?
uh, uh, uh, the, sorry, I can't talk at all, uh, uh, pre- a predecessor to Trump, right?
So, no, that's not right.
Whatever.
They have someone to inherit Trump's throne at the end of 2028.
Like, that's what they need.
And there are a lot of young, strong, ideologically interesting Republicans right now.
And I think that the problem with the fracture in the left, because you're right, there's fracturing on both sides, I just think it's more devastating on the left because They are splitting from like moderate to really progressive and they only bring out their super progressive people.
Those are the people who get social media attention, those people who are making the soundbites, and I don't think that would resonate with the voters.
So who do they send to the next, you know, not 2024, but 2028?
And I think there are stronger young Republicans coming down the pike.
tim pool
So let's name who is next in line for the Democratic Party at the highest level.
What do you think?
elad eliahu
I guess Kamala Harris.
tim pool
She couldn't get one delegate.
elad eliahu
Who is Gavin Newsom?
marc lobliner
I guess it would also be a natural X. Gavin would be who I'd go with, just because he fits the bill.
hannah claire brimelow
But he's controversial.
tim pool
And he's C-minus.
He's not an A-lister.
elad eliahu
I think the— AOC.
Why I think the Republicans are going to have trouble down the line is— No, no, no, no, no.
tim pool
In four to eight years, AOC.
AOC has the charisma and X-factor for the modern progressive left.
The issue, however, with AOC is, while I think she's the most viable contender for a leadership position moving forward, and she knows it, and that's why she's playing ball with Pelosi, the problem is her adherence to the progressive left will isolate all of the Jewish Democrats and shove them into the Republican Party.
elad eliahu
She won't even be able to win in a statewide Senate race, I don't think, AOC.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I think she's in Congress for a long time.
tim pool
Yeah, I do not underestimate AOC.
Right now you might say that, but look at how she games the media.
Look at how she games social media.
She knows how to rally her cult very well.
She has that Gavin Newsom does not.
Newsom has no base.
He has corporate press narrative.
AOC built up her own lunatic base.
And so I say, four to eight years, she is going to refine that and she will build power.
But, the fracturing right now over Israel-Palestine means, she's going to go, I believe she's already gone on TV now after those activists attacked her and said that Israel's committing genocide.
And that's it.
That may have ended her chance at securing a position in the Democratic Party because, I'll just put it this way, the only reason the Democrats want to ban TikTok now is because they can't control the anti-Israel propaganda that's on it and they desperately want to get rid of it.
AOC is on the other side of that, criticizing Israel.
She's going to lose all the donor support.
Big donor support.
marc lobliner
Well, who's giving to the Democrat Party?
A bunch of rich Jewish donors.
I mean, if you look them up, there's a lot of Steens over there, man.
Like, let's be real.
elad eliahu
My point with Trump was that he is such a unique political figure, inspiring so much support out of the base, that I don't think there's going to be anybody like him, any talent like that in the near future.
That'll be able to compete with the DNC machine.
marc lobliner
Trump is once in a lifetime.
elad eliahu
Which could just throw somebody in and could beat a not special talent out of the Republicans.
marc lobliner
But then again, the Republicans have won with boring bastards before.
elad eliahu
I think the country as a whole, though, with the Democrat machine is going less and less in that favor.
tim pool
But who have they put in the machine?
Nikki Haley.
If it's not Trump, and the Republican Party just gets, if it's fractured, and the unipart, okay, so if Trump's not there.
This may be their strategy.
Trump gets four more years after he's out.
No matter who it is, it will be two divided, giving them an opportunity to inject a Nikki Haley.
marc lobliner
Yeah.
elad eliahu
I think the Republican Party would reject that, like the grassroots would reject that, and she'd totally lose, which is again why I think the Democrats are interested.
tim pool
Yes, but it's a split race.
You have Vivek Ramaswamy, you have Ron DeSantis, you'll have a handful of other up-and-coming young stars, and there'll be a primary, and it'll be 17% here and 13% there, and Nikki Haley will get 19% and then end up winning.
hannah claire brimelow
I just really think the next four years are make or break.
Like J.D.
Vance, Josh Hawley, Matt Gaetz, like there are a lot of young, talented guys.
And that's just, I mean, there are also young governors who are doing interesting things.
Republicans have just a broader depth of options than I think Democrats do.
I mean, we're talking about people who are in Congress or the Senate.
You know, look at the Democratic governors that might potentially launch a bid.
Like none of them look potentially impressive in my opinion.
Which, I mean, I just don't think she would win the votes.
And I don't mean to speak badly.
I just I think that she is not what the middle tier of American voters, the moderate lean one where the other voters are looking for.
And so, again, for Republicans, four years to build and to get your ground and to really cultivate Your persona nationally is great, whereas Democrats kind of have to start from ground zero because, you know, are you going to elect like Jay Inslee from Washington?
elad eliahu
Josh Shapiro maybe in Pennsylvania?
hannah claire brimelow
No, all of the Democrats are against, you know, white males.
So like, they're sort of, they have more obstacles to overcome when setting up their next candidate than Republicans do, in my opinion.
elad eliahu
Maybe I'm just so down on Republicans after seeing all these guys resign.
It seems like there's no commitment to their service.
hannah claire brimelow
It's good to be critical of them, you know?
tim pool
Yep, I agree. I agree.
elad eliahu
The Democrats again, they seem like they're more on the same page.
They're more in this all together. Obama's visiting with Biden and Clinton as well.
Everybody's shaking hands. Everybody, you know, they're all on the same page.
marc lobliner
The ideologies in general, though, if you look at it, socialism, they're going to work together.
Whereas if you're more of an independent, you're libertarian thinkers, we're going to have our own thoughts.
We could have debates.
But at the end of the day, I think we can rally behind a candidate who, and I hate to say the cliche, is just not as bad as the other guy.
tim pool
Republicans have way too many on the back bench.
Yes, there's just so much opportunity there.
hannah claire brimelow
I think it's interesting that so many Republicans have exited Congress of late, and some of them mid-term, right?
Mike Gallagher or Mike Rosendale?
elad eliahu
There's just a couple.
hannah claire brimelow
I'll pull it in a second.
elad eliahu
I think they have a one-seat majority now in the House.
hannah claire brimelow
It's a little bit higher than that.
It's like three.
It's not big.
The Republicans that are leaving seem to be all on one side.
Like, of the three Republicans that voted against Mayorkas' impeachment, two of them have now announced that they are leaving kind of effective immediately.
Which is interesting, right?
Like, it's not happening...
Across everywhere, it's a certain class of people, or like a lot of people who are aligned with McCarthy have announced that they're retiring or they're leaving.
McCarthy obviously stepped out.
elad eliahu
Because there are fractures in the Republican Party, which the Democrats don't have as bad.
hannah claire brimelow
There are fractures, but they're weeding themselves out of government, right?
elad eliahu
And losing their majority.
tim pool
I gotta stop you right there.
The fracturing in the Democratic Party is worse.
elad eliahu
I hope so, but I don't think so.
tim pool
How in the world you got Michael Rapoport, who's like for six years is just going on Twitter and being like, Donald Trump's got a pin stick gun!
And now he's like, Trump's not so bad.
marc lobliner
He wears three Star of Davids.
That's pretty awesome.
He wears three of them, bro.
He's out Jewing you.
He's out Jewing me.
elad eliahu
I don't need to wear three Star of Davids.
I don't need to wear one.
I think you already know where I'm at.
hannah claire brimelow
I disavow this whole conversation.
I just want everyone to know.
tim pool
My point is, the Democratic Party has split in half.
The younger portion is very critical of Israel, and to the extent many of them don't believe that Israel is a legitimate nation, they believe it's a colonizer nation created by the Balfour Declaration and shouldn't exist.
You do have elements of that on the right, but it's substantially smaller on the right than the left.
elad eliahu
So there are way too many squad members in Congress, but it's only like a handful anyway though.
So again, this is like, I think relatively small and doesn't have a lot of representation.
tim pool
Joe Biden had to go to Michigan and Minnesota because these people are critical of his position.
And he's got protesters in New York right now.
elad eliahu
And I think these are a loud minority and Joe Biden's being politically not savvy by making these moves.
tim pool
Okay, I'll tell you this.
Maybe, but I believe the younger generation, younger millennials and Gen Z Democrats are anti-Israel.
I think, I've not met, all of these Democrats, I've not met a single young Democrat ever who's pro-Israel.
Have you?
elad eliahu
There are some, and I think they still have some representation in the Senate and the House.
For example, John Fetterman is outspokenly... How old is John Fetterman?
50.
Probably one of the youngest Senators.
Probably one of the youngest Senators.
marc lobliner
We just opened up a whole can of worms.
tim pool
Okay, that's a good one, that's a good one.
But to be fair, he's not representing 20-year-olds.
He's representing 35 to 45-year-olds.
Or older.
And mad respect to Fetterman for standing his ground on this one.
marc lobliner
Real quick, so I could clarify, what do we consider pro-Israel?
Do we consider my stance, which is it should not be something we deal with?
Let them do their own thing?
elad eliahu
Insufficiently pro-Israel, in my opinion, if that's what pro-Israel is.
marc lobliner
Exactly, but are we considering it pro-Palestine and then everybody else?
How are we classifying the Israel-Palestine divide?
tim pool
So there's the moral argument, and then the financial argument.
And the moral argument is impossible to answer.
I fall more into the financial argument of, how about this, I can't answer this answer these moral questions. I don't think the United
States should be involved in this stuff. I think we should focus on our
borders. The way I said it before is, I got an idea. Let's give Israel every dollar
they need and ask for. In fact, we'll double it. The United States should double
whatever amount of money they want to give to- double, yes. So Israel, they want 15
billion? We're gonna give them 30, baby. I hereby, Tim Poole, say we give Israel
30 billion dollars after we secure our border.
After we deal with the homeless crisis.
After we deport the illegal immigrants.
elad eliahu
We need a draft so we can secure our border.
tim pool
I like that.
My point is, once the United States has solved all of its problems, every single one, and we're all flying around in hover chairs with perfect healthcare and we're immortal, then we can start giving our money away to other people.
elad eliahu
Mark, to answer your question, I think it's clear you're an anti-Israel person or politician.
I think an easy way to do it is if you hold Israel to a double standard, that you don't hold any other country.
marc lobliner
That's not me.
I'm America first.
I'm my mother's servant at IDF, if you don't know that.
I am Jewish.
I'm Jewish as hell.
But, I'm an American.
This is where I live.
Until we secure our borders, until we figure out how to get out of our $35 trillion in debt, then we should not be sending one dime to the Ukraine, shouldn't be sending one dime to Israel.
We should be taking care of ourselves.
Israel has healthcare for their citizens.
How are we giving money to a country that has something we don't have?
elad eliahu
It's pretty shitty healthcare in Israel.
unidentified
But it's still something, you know what?
marc lobliner
I'll take something over anything.
If I'm hungry, I'm not going to be like, oh, I can't have bread.
I'm low carb.
No, give me the bread.
Okay.
It's at the end of the day, why are we giving to countries who are operating on a surplus?
tim pool
So what it comes down to is the flattest entry point in the pro or anti-Israel is supporting
funding for Israel or supporting Israel's actions in general.
marc lobliner
Okay.
tim pool
Typically the people who agree with what Israel is doing tend to agree with the U.S.
as an ally providing support, at least in some way.
My attitude is, you know, we're certainly at a... I can't begin to pretend I know enough about Israel-Palestine to give you a moral answer.
I can give you a really simple one, which the anti-Israel people do like.
I agree with you.
We solve all our problems here in this country before we give money to anybody else.
I don't care if it's Sudan, Somalia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, North Korea, South Korea, whatever.
Why are we giving money to anybody else when our country is dealing with high cost of food, high cost of gas, The money isn't the issue with securing our border.
elad eliahu
It's the political will to do so.
We could secure our border tomorrow if we want.
tim pool
I don't think it's a lot of money. I'm not just talking about one single issue. I'm saying this country has a litany
of problems that we're not dealing with and we're instead investing
money in foreign conflict and for some nebulous Military reason we don't know about. The American people
have a right to know I certainly understand the issue of clearance and all that
but so long as they can't explain the true necessity of it I say then no
Then no!
We've got too many homeless people, we've got a border crisis, and as you mentioned, no political willpower, we've got healthcare issues, people going bankrupt because they break their legs!
Yes.
No, I'm not okay with any of that, and you want to make an argument for why you think the country that you support deserves our money, the first thing I'm going to say is, I will give that country...
20 billion.
How much do you want to give Sudan?
You want to give Somalia?
You know, you've got Ilhan Omar's people very much wanting to help out Somalia.
I got 10 billion dollars for Somalia.
Right here, right here in the treasury.
Okay, we're going to send to them as soon as we solve every problem in this country.
Once we are with perfect healthcare, immortal, no homeless people, abundant food, then we can all sit down and say, You know, now we got some extra stuff.
Should we give it out?
elad eliahu
Why I say I think you could tell somebody's anti-Israel is if they have the double standard is that I think people tend to focus the most on our military support for Israel when we support militarily dozens of nations, even more than we ever have for Israel.
People say we shouldn't fight any wars for Israel, and I totally agree with that.
I don't think we should ever fight a conflict for Israel, and we never have.
But we have fought conflicts in Vietnam.
We fought conflicts in Korea.
marc lobliner
How'd that Vietnam thing end?
tim pool
So this is, this is what I refer to as Israel derangement, which is different from just being generally anti-Israel.
elad eliahu
Yeah.
No, because nobody, people say, hey, we shouldn't fight any wars for Israel.
And I wholeheartedly agree, but I mean, I'm sure there were people saying we shouldn't fight wars for Vietnam and we shouldn't, it just feels like people are more, and we send a ton of money to South Korea.
We have tens of thousands of troops on the DMZ right now in South and North Korea, just there as cannon fodder to help prevent a conflict from breaking out.
We give them a ton of money.
We give Taiwan a lot of money, obviously.
tim pool
I'll put it this way.
elad eliahu
All of which I support giving, by the way.
tim pool
I do think it's funny when the Israel derangement people refer to us as Zionists because we're not sufficiently anti-Israel.
Wanting to cut all funding to them and other countries is not anti-Israel because it's still a purports Israel's continued existence through our neutrality
or something like that.
And there are prominent individuals who refer to me as a Zionist despite the fact I know
very little, don't care, and don't want to give them any money.
That's derangement.
And so there are people here at Timcast, like one of my best friends, Cassandra McDonald,
who is very critical of Israel all the time on Twitter.
And we're all friends, despite, you know, like, Ilad's on the white other side than both of us.
We get along, we argue these things.
Cassandra has a reasonable criticism, highlights things she's reasonably concerned about, takes issue with the military actions, and I'm like, well, she's got a point, I understand why she's mad.
But then there are people who are like, You're a Zionist with a secret yarmulke under your beanie being funded by Mossad.
I knew it!
But it's crazy because these people who go on Twitter and the derangement stretches from... Someone posted an image of Luke Rutkowski with the Star of David on it.
elad eliahu
And I'm like... He does have a big nose.
tim pool
And yes, he's Polish, but he's... I can assure you, Luke Rutkowski's not Jewish.
marc lobliner
No, no, Luke's not Jewish.
tim pool
And has never supported anything pertaining to the Israel conflict.
He's pro-American, anarchist, and this is derangement.
The people who are like... They created an image, they do this all the time, with a bunch of different faces claiming they're all Jewish, and I'm like, Luke Rutkowski is not Jewish.
That's derangement.
elad eliahu
Israel derangement syndrome sounds like a polite euphemism for anti-semitism.
tim pool
That's what I hear when I hear you say it.
I don't like conflating criticism of Israel with anti-semitism.
elad eliahu
Yeah, but it's derangement.
It's beyond criticism.
It's just what I hear when I hear you say it.
tim pool
There's definitely, when it comes to Israel derangement, a serious overlap with outright hating Jews, for sure.
marc lobliner
There absolutely is.
tim pool
Putting a Star of David on Luke Rutkowski's picture is like, yo, you are nuts.
elad eliahu
I think there's very responsible ways to be anti-Israel, and one of the amazing talents at Tim Cast News, Cassandra Fairbanks, I think does a great job of it.
But I think many people don't do it in a responsible way, and I think there's some benefit online to that.
I unfortunately think anti-Semitism is popular on some parts of the internet.
marc lobliner
It absolutely is.
elad eliahu
Well, and then there's also digital manipulation like for example, I saw a Hitler speech translated on Twitter the other day with like 20k some odd likes and a couple of things there.
I don't think it's that popular.
I think there's actual Russian or I don't know if it's Russian specifically, but I think there's foreign influences manipulating Twitter.
Obviously, but it's odd to see that stuff.
tim pool
I do want to jump to the next story, but I do want to just say one more thing.
You know, often when I see anyone with any kind of derangement, I have to wonder if they're actually supporting what they claim to hate.
Because if you go on Twitter and claim to be critical of Zionism in Israel, but then you act the way these people do, It makes the average person really want to defend Israel.
marc lobliner
Yes.
tim pool
Like, the people going online and posting offensive images and accusing everyone of being Jews and saying all this weird stuff, it pushes people towards Israel instead of away from it.
So I'm like, I just go ahead and assume that all these people who are, like, on Twitter, on X saying these crazy things, I'm like, they must really just love—they're false flagging, you know what I mean?
elad eliahu
So there's no yarmulke under the beanie?
unidentified
No, there isn't.
marc lobliner
Real quick, you go into, like, the whole blocking traffic and protest things, you block my way to work, man.
I'm sending money myself to Israel.
elad eliahu
I do think this is a vocal minority, though.
Like, a very vocal minority.
tim pool
Let's jump to this next story, back to the crime issue.
We have this from NBC News.
Multiple women online say they were punched while walking around New York City.
Multiple videos which were uploaded to TikTok have picked up traction in the last week, with women online sharing their safety concerns in comments and reply videos.
My response to this was, ha ha ha ha ha ha.
And, um, I got ratioed.
marc lobliner
Yeah, good job!
tim pool
And there, there was, you know, um, let me just, let me just, I'll just, I'll just pull up the tweet, cause, like, I, saying it doesn't do it justice, so let me just, let me, let me pull up my tweet so you can get a general understanding of my position on this, and then I will, I will explain it.
elad eliahu
Were there any articles written about you, like, far-right podcaster, celebrates?
unidentified
Uh, it's this.
tim pool
Here, here's the image.
elad eliahu
Homophobic, misogynist.
tim pool
Ask Tara, at, Tara Ball says, do you think this is funny?
And it's one of the videos, and I responded with this.
marc lobliner
No!
tim pool
Yes.
I'll tell you why.
I'll tell you why, it's actually quite simple.
Let's see, which tweets do I have?
So we have the videos pulled up of various instances where women have been getting punched, and you know, Ian Miles-Strong posting this collection of women saying they're getting punched, and let's see, we have another video.
What else do we have pulled up?
I'll jump to the Women's Caucus in a second, but let me tell you why I think it's funny.
Was on a train, and there were women on that train, and a man was threatening to kill them.
Daniel Penney intervened.
He's now facing jail for doing so.
marc lobliner
Yeah.
tim pool
They vote to ban guns.
They vote to release criminals.
They vote to arrest people like Daniel Penney.
And what happens?
Well, you release the criminals, you can't defend yourself, so the criminals know you can't defend yourself, so they go around punching you.
I think it's hilarious.
Why?
You're eating crow.
You reap what you sow.
Voting has consequences, and I gotta stop all the conservatives because a bunch of conservatives are like, not cool, Tim.
It's really bad that you shouldn't laugh at these women.
And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no.
How dare you?
You authoritarians.
These women.
unidentified
We're teary-eyed saying, I just want to get punched in the face!
tim pool
And they banged that voting card, they slammed their finger on that touchscreen and said, I vote to get criminals on the street so they can punch me in the face!
And I said, so brave.
So brave of you to vote for what you want.
And now they're living their dreams.
You can't come to me and say that it's not funny that women are getting attacked when I'm like, They overwhelmingly voted for this to happen, and now it's happening.
If someone voted- if we were- okay, how about this?
We all- we're all sitting here, we're like, let's vote on what we should get for dinner.
And then Hannah Clare says, I want sushi.
And we go, okay.
Everybody votes, it's mixed, but then sushi ends up winning.
Sushi arrives, Hannah Clare starts crying because she doesn't want sushi.
What am I going to do?
I'm going to laugh?
elad eliahu
Does she want a ham sandwich instead?
tim pool
You voted for it!
elad eliahu
I'm sorry.
tim pool
Now you're mad you got it?
It's like a little kid being like, I want pizza, and the pizza comes, and the kid starts crying like, I don't want pizza anymore.
Well, this is what you get.
marc lobliner
I'm conflicted.
I really am, because at one end, I have an 18-year-old daughter and a wife.
So if someone is attacking a woman, my initial reaction is to, wait, I've been given things I'm not allowed to say, is to be combative.
tim pool
Well, I'll put it this way.
You are illegally allowed to defend yourself and others in this country up until including lethal force if you feel there's a threat to your life or there's serious bodily harm.
marc lobliner
But we've just seen with the New York subway with Daniel Penny.
That that doesn't apply.
They will still come after you.
It will still cost you money.
Okay.
So on the other hand, if I see a woman being punched, I'm thinking to myself, if I get involved in this, how much is it going to cost me to defend myself in court?
I had a friend of mine who actually defended himself.
He was an MMA guy, knocked a guy out.
$50,000 later, they found him not guilty.
He doesn't get that money back.
So the question is, When do we stop looking out for society and start looking out for ourselves?
It's conflicting.
tim pool
Have you seen the film The Incredibles?
marc lobliner
Yes.
tim pool
Yeah, you guys have seen this one?
Okay, so Mr. Incredible, superhero, sees a man about to commit suicide.
And when the guy jumps off the building and is falling to his death, Mr. Incredible leaps into the air, catches him in midair, Slamming through a window, rolling on the ground, and saving his life.
And that man sued him saying, I didn't want to be saved, I didn't ask to be saved, and now I'm injured because of you.
And that was basically the premise of the film where this ended superheroes.
marc lobliner
Yeah.
tim pool
So if there's a woman in New York, And a guy is threatening her and you're there.
You shouldn't just think to yourself, what will it cost?
There's a bunch of guys on Twitter being like, no, I'd intervene and defend her.
And then what happens when she screams at you, hits you with the purse and say, how dare you?
I voted for this and I want this.
How dare you?
You're the criminal.
The challenge is not just that you will get arrested for saving a woman.
It's that you're assuming that woman is actually upset about what's going on.
hannah claire brimelow
I think that's the challenge here, which is that, you know, whether or not they thought through the consequences that they had, if you are supporting, you know, policies that allow criminals to be released or, you know, things that don't Sufficiently deal with people who are violent offenders, you are ultimately voting against your own safety.
And it's hard for me to watch these videos because obviously, like, I'm a woman walking down the street.
It's stressful to think, like, you have to be more aware, especially if you're by yourself, of, like, what's going on and things you have to do.
You know, it's a reason that I would choose not to live in New York because there are certain laws that restrict ways that you can defend yourself.
But at the same time, Like, when I look at these videos and see, like, how upset they are and that they're getting hurt, like, I am sad for them and I wish we lived in a place where that didn't happen.
On the other hand, like, they are actively participating in the creation of this circumstance.
And so you have to say, like, all of these women who got punched, are you now willing to move out of New York?
Are you willing to change how you vote?
Like, this is sad that it happened to you, but what have you learned from this experience?
And it's not enough to just be like, can you believe this happened to me?
Like, you have to actively be part of the solution now because you have been part of the problem.
tim pool
I had people tweet at me like, wouldn't you be upset if your mom or girlfriend got attacked?
And I said, I live in West Virginia.
We have constitutional carry.
I am not that concerned.
marc lobliner
And the laws are on your side.
There's a state of the ground and all that good stuff.
tim pool
It's why I got out of New York.
It's why I got out of New Jersey.
And it's why our new studio is launching in like a week.
It's already done.
We've been using it.
And we've been building out the tech and stuff.
And it looks amazing.
And it's in the heart of West Virginia.
Well, it's not the heart of West Virginia.
But it's in the eastern panhandle.
It's dead in West Virginia.
And we've got water on the property.
We've got emergency backup power.
And guns.
We have so many, I can't count them.
There was, I can't remember who said this, someone on Twitter, if you, was it Austin Peterson maybe?
If you can count the number of guns you have, you don't have enough.
And so, my attitude is, obviously I would be upset if a loved one of mine was attacked by a deranged man.
I also recognize the importance of them having the ability to defend themselves, to be in shape to the best of their abilities, to know how to defend themselves, and to be armed.
But you, in New York City, voted to disarm yourselves.
I ain't gonna, look, I'm going to laugh.
You're living the way you want to live.
What am I supposed to do about that?
Why are people living the way they chose to live?
Destiny had a really great point.
He said, honestly, I felt the exact same way about conservatives dying of COVID.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
And I'm like, well, I'm not talking about women dying here, but I'll be fair.
His sentiment, his view is you are choosing to live a way I think will lead to your harm.
And then you are reaping the repercussions of your own bad choices.
Yeah, what do you want me to do about it?
Are we gonna go invade New York and change the laws?
No!
So then what?
Eh, we're gonna sit back, mind our own business where we try to secure our families and our communities, and then we laugh at the people who vote to destroy themselves.
marc lobliner
There's really no good answer about this.
There's no good way to look at this, because as men, we should be protecting.
You know, I've actually gone almost 180 on this subject when you're looking at, for example, men, biological men and women's sports.
When you look at the repercussions for women standing up against it, these are girls who train five hours a day, probably a menorrheic, they can't have periods anymore, they train so hard.
They've given their entire life from six years old to let's play soccer, say soccer.
And then they're in high school and they say, if you don't play in this game, if you forfeit this game, you're done.
You're not gonna get a college scholarship, your dreams are over.
So I'm in a situation now, and this is in the last week, Where I almost think that as men, we need to stand up and say, this is not working.
What is happening is not working because women, look, women can make great CEOs, great everything.
They're great.
They're awesome.
I'm not going to be on that sexist, misogynistic rant.
I'm not doing that.
But when it comes to protecting society, when it comes to protecting women and children, it's up to the men.
So what do we do?
elad eliahu
I think Daniel Penney was trying to defend a woman.
marc lobliner
But was it worth it?
Would he do it again?
That's the question.
elad eliahu
It is a good question.
tim pool
And what do you do?
Well, it is up to men to protect women.
It is both a biological reality, it's a moral reality for many of us who hold those morals.
However, What if there's a bunch of women standing in a field, and there is a boulder rolling down a mountain, and it's about to crush all of them, and you run over and go, we gotta get these women out of here, and they scream at you, throw rocks at you, and tell you to screw off.
At a certain point, it's like, hmm, I don't know I can save them.
New York City, you've got women vote, in the United States, 70% of millennial women vote Democrat.
They are voting in people who are burning this country to the ground.
I do not blame all women for this.
I'm saying it's a generality.
In New York, where it's a Democrat stronghold, it's actually a significantly higher percentage.
So if they are telling you outright, your worldview is not welcome here, your guns, your defense, your masculinity is toxic, get away from me!
Do you force yourself and your worldview on that woman for her own safety?
marc lobliner
Are we assuming that all of these victims share that?
Because there are people who don't vote like that.
Do we have to go with that assumption?
tim pool
I understand that, but the issue then is, do you go into a foreign country, for instance, like Canada?
Should we go into Canada and give them free speech?
Certainly many people in Canada, probably the most, actually do like free speech, but the government won't give it to them.
Many of them had their guns taken away by decree.
Should the United States invade Canada to restore the rights because not everyone agrees with having their guns taken away?
The answer is no.
Should we go into New York and impose our will on these people because they choose to vote the way they do?
I think the answer is no.
I do think, however, if Trump gets elected, he should suspend federal funding to them because they're a corrupt communist state.
But that's different from telling them they should have to carry guns and lock up their criminals.
Hey, you want to live this way and let your criminals roam free?
You choose to live there.
Ain't nobody making you stay.
marc lobliner
My fear is it's a social contagion.
That if it can happen there, it can happen anywhere.
And you see that in blue areas of red states, like Nashville, for example, like Memphis.
So my fear is that if men don't societally take a role in protecting women and children, that it's a slippery slope.
tim pool
I feel like the issue is, in the past 130, 140, actually just about 180 years, Women have stated, in force, and often with physical force, to men, we don't want your protection.
So back the F off.
The question then becomes, if a woman is about to walk into, there's a shootout happening in New York and a woman's walking into it, should the guy grab her by force and rip her away while she protests, get your hands off me, or should they be like, you are free to do what you want?
The question here is interesting because I've been in circumstances like this where we had I went to Egypt, for instance, and right before I had gone there, a young female Dutch reporter was gang-raped in Tahrir Square.
Because her company said, you know, we need a reporter to go to Egypt.
She said, I want to do it.
And they said, okay, strong woman, go ahead.
My attitude was, if a woman came to me and said, I want to go to Tahrir Square, I'd say, not on my dime, you're not.
You go do whatever you want on your own dime, but I'm not paying for you to get gang-raped, because that's what was happening in Tahrir Square.
Should... The question is, let's say there's a female journalist about to walk into Tahrir Square, and you, Mark, are standing right behind her, and she's got a camera and she's ready to go, would you physically restrain her and stop her from going in?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
Or would you say, by all means, you can go do what you want, you're fierce and independent?
marc lobliner
Yeah.
tim pool
And then she walks in and gets gang raped.
marc lobliner
Free will.
tim pool
But men are supposed to protect women from these bad decisions.
marc lobliner
You're right.
tim pool
So what's happening in New York is their own fault, and there's gonna be people who didn't vote for it, but they certainly choose to live there and live Under these policies that are voted in incessantly and overwhelmingly by the people of New York, not just women.
So I laugh.
I laugh.
I say, OK, well, you know, you know what's going on there.
You choose to live this way.
It's been years of excessive and rampant skyrocketing crime and terror on the subways.
And I'm supposed to feel sympathy for the people?
Look, if I watched a guy bungee skydive, He's like, I'm gonna base jump.
He's a base jumper.
And then his shoot fails.
Yes, I'm gonna be like, oh no!
But I also understand he made those choices.
I'm not gonna be like, we should ban bungee jumping, we should ban base jumping.
I'm gonna be like, well look, these people know the risks they take when they go.
Imagine we ban skiing.
Because people who go on mountains sometimes crash or fall into tree wells or something like that.
No more skateboarding because you might get hurt and we don't want you to get hurt and we gotta decide for you to tell you what's... Nah.
If they want to vote these policies in, they're more than happy to and I will laugh when they get screwed up by it.
A lady getting punched in the face is not her dying.
The reason why I'm laughing is because they're gonna get over it.
One lady was even laughing with a lump on her head being like, well, they got me.
marc lobliner
Well, they didn't die in this situation.
She falls backwards, hits her head.
It's murder.
tim pool
And the knockout game has been serious?
marc lobliner
Yes.
tim pool
And they keep voting for it?
marc lobliner
They do as a majority, but that's the democratic system.
That's why democracy doesn't always work.
tim pool
And we cannot invade New York to protect the minority who doesn't want to live that way when they choose to live there under the people who keep voting for these policies.
marc lobliner
So we're saying that's a no travel zone now?
Now I'm just playing devil's advocate here, but let's say that my daughter has a business meeting in New York.
tim pool
Does she... Same as bungee jumping.
marc lobliner
Okay.
tim pool
You know, if you're gonna get, if you're gonna go skydiving, you know there's a possibility your chute fails, and your reserve fails, and then you gotta figure out how you're gonna survive this one.
We don't ban skydiving.
So if you're, I would say if your daughter is going to go to New York, you should sit down with her and say, take a look at these hotspots, take a look at the crime maps, take a look at what they're saying about the crime, be ready, be prepared, understand the laws will stop you from protecting yourself, you're taking, you're taking these risks, I think you'll likely be fine, just know your risks.
elad eliahu
And I think it's worth mentioning that Tim's hypothetical in Tahir Square wasn't a hypothetical, it was speaking of talented journalist Lara Logan, I believe.
tim pool
No, not Lara Logan.
elad eliahu
Oh, wasn't?
tim pool
Okay, never mind then.
Nope, there was a Dutch journalist.
elad eliahu
Oh, okay.
tim pool
Was Lara Logan getting raped?
elad eliahu
Lara Logan was also assaulted in Egypt, it might just be a trend there.
tim pool
Oh, no, yeah, it was a commonplace thing.
elad eliahu
It's very common, yeah, there.
It's 2,000 men screaming.
tim pool
The woman walks in and they grab her, rip her clothes off and they're shoving their hands in her.
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, there is a reason that you can Google best countries for solo female travelers, right?
But I don't see those for men.
I only see them for women.
It's because women have to assess risk very differently than men.
And I think you're right.
There are women who will say like, no, I can do whatever I want and live my dreams.
And like, I'm sorry, that's just not realistic.
And I think, you know, whatever the solution is, it's up to women to be conscious of the dangers and risks that they're taking on.
tim pool
Men are more likely to be the victims of violent crime.
But men, for obvious reasons, are more likely to be able to handle being a victim of violent crime.
The issue of international conflict when it comes to men, and this was such a funny thing I had to deal with when I did hostile environment training, because they make you do it for insurance purposes.
What happens to a guy...
Typically, when you find yourself involved, preferably as a journalist or otherwise, in an international conflict, typically you die.
You might be kidnapped, you might die.
If you're a woman, you're now a sex slave.
This is the reality.
And so the funny thing is, because of political correctness in this country when they do the hostile environment training, they have to equally warn men and women of both being killed and being sex slaves.
I assure you.
While there are certain circumstances where men get raped, yes.
Overwhelmingly, they will just use you as a bargaining chip or kill you.
And if you're a woman, you become property instantly.
You are owned.
Or they kill you.
That's true.
Like, they might behead you or something, depending on where you are, what country you're in.
But, there are very, very different realities.
If you're a man, you are more likely to get attacked.
The reason why, I think, as Hannah Clare mentions, they have websites for telling women where they can travel to, is because, not necessarily that they're more likely to be attacked, but that they're less capable of defending themselves.
marc lobliner
Yes.
tim pool
And they're more likely to be tortured and enslaved.
So, there's certainly, take your precautions.
But, that being said, I think the other issue is that men are dumb.
And I don't mean like on average men are stupid.
It's the greater male variability hypothesis shows that there's stupider men and smarter men, however you want to put it.
What I mean is, guys take risks that women don't take.
So a guy might be like, I'll go to Pakistan, I'll be fine.
And then they find themselves running from gunfire or something, you know.
Or crazy stuff happens out there, I gotta tell you.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, and I think that the way that men and women Naturally react to danger or threat is very different.
Like, I'm sure for men, it's like if someone were to come up and try and like take your wallet, right?
Your reaction is like, I'm going to defend myself physically.
But for women, maybe you want to defend yourself.
You're probably thinking maybe that's why I carry pepper spray or something.
Also, how do I get out of this situation as fast as possible?
Because the likelihood is you can't handle your attacker.
Like, the risk analysis is just so different for men and women.
It's important that we acknowledge that always.
Like, when these women are walking down the street in New York, even in broad daylight, their experience is very different from men and it should be if they're being realistic and conscious, right?
Like, if they are actually being careful about their safety, they just analyze the situation differently than men because they have different advantages and different disadvantages.
tim pool
Let's talk about the macro.
On average, women vote Democrat.
We look at the voting pattern maps and you find that if you remove all men, the country is solid blue.
All Democrat.
They win every electoral vote.
If it is only men, the country would not be totally red.
I think Washington and D.C.
are still blue.
Women, overwhelmingly, are the ones that are supporting Democrat policies.
They're voting for us to go to war in Ukraine, inching us towards war with Russia in World War III, and they are not subject to the draft.
I take serious issue with that.
That there is an entire demographic of people, in fact the majority, voting for the possibility that... Well, I'm 38, so let's be real.
Younger men will have to go and die for them.
That's messed up.
That shouldn't be.
So I say, the fastest way to resolve a lot of these issues is to... We have to move as heavily as possible towards either drafting women or abolishing the draft.
Because you can't have second-class citizens.
So a lot of people say that we shouldn't have Election Day be a holiday.
I believe Election Day should be a holiday.
There should be only one day.
There should be no mail-in voting.
Absentee should be extremely limited, and it should be to deployed soldiers and things like that.
It should be in-person, one-day voting, and it should be a holiday.
If it's not a holiday, it incentivizes the unemployed to vote, which creates a pressure system where the wants and needs of the unemployed outweigh those of the working class and people with families.
We need to understand how these things will put pressure on the system.
If women on average know that even if World War III were to happen, they don't have to go fight, they're not going to be drafted, then it's very easy for them to vote for war.
If we say that women have to be drafted alongside men, then they might actually vote against it and you might see a shift in their voting patterns.
But if you tell someone, You will not be subject... We're gonna pass a law that says you can't jaywalk, but it only applies to guys named... But anyone named Bill will not be held criminally accountable.
Then a lot of guys named Bill are gonna be like, yeah, who cares?
Okay, pass the bill.
I don't know.
It doesn't affect me.
That's what we need to avoid, and that's what we need to understand about how voting works.
The reason why I laugh at this stuff... These women don't think these things will affect them.
And it's not just women.
It's everyone in New York.
Unfortunately, there perhaps needs to be a lesson learned.
But hey, look, it's democracy, right?
Far be it for me to tell them how to vote.
They voted this way, they got what they wanted, they're eating crow, and I laugh.
Now they're mad at me for laughing.
elad eliahu
Wait, Tim, just to play devil's advocate, technically they just elected a former cop mayor, like, in the most right-wing option among the Democrats.
Did they vote for this if they're electing a former cop who said he does want to increase funding for police?
unidentified
Yes.
elad eliahu
Still?
tim pool
Yes.
Because you're talking about a single election that just happened, and you're talking about a guy who is still a Democrat who has still advocated for much of the same policies, despite being a cop.
And you're talking about the voting patterns of the past four years versus a single election that just happened recently.
So yes, elections have consequences, and the voting patterns they engaged in, by all means.
They may now be going, oh heavens me, I can't believe this is happening, let's change our voting patterns.
They still voted in the people who made this happen.
And let's be real, Eric Adams may be a former cop, but he is still a progressive, and they are still pushing the same policies.
elad eliahu
I guess Lee Zeldin did come close in that last election in the governor's race.
As close as a Republican has.
tim pool
Fair point, fair point.
elad eliahu
Been a long time in New York.
I think we're seeing shifts.
marc lobliner
I do think we're seeing shifts.
But again, like the Israel thing, right?
You're seeing these shifts happen because the divides in the different parties.
But I don't see New York going red.
tim pool
I think he came up in six or... Let's turn to some prominent New York women.
I'm going to play this clip.
The Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
has got the clip for us.
Let's play this clip and we'll talk a bit about it.
unidentified
Do we need men?
Do we need a man?
Do we need men?
Do women need men in this world?
Do we need men?
Why?
joy behar
There's this clip going viral online of a dozen women being asked the following question.
Do we need men?
Most answered very quickly, no.
And only one said she thought women needed a man in their lives.
Only one.
So why do you think that is?
ana navarro
Because men are useless.
And by the way, I want to differentiate between straight men and gay men, because I think I would die without gay men.
I have Handy Manny at home.
unidentified
No.
ana navarro
He fixes everything.
unidentified
When things go bump in the night, he's the one that goes downstairs.
When there's a bug to be exterminated, he does the extermination.
ana navarro
Nope.
When there is something to be fixed, he fixes it.
He throws out the trash and he throws out the recyclables.
I enjoy all the man stuff he does at night.
joy behar
Wait a second.
I know what you're going to say.
Wait.
She's really talking about a servant, let's face it.
It's a handyman she's talking about.
Oh, it's a handyman with benefits.
unidentified
I need my man three to four times a week.
Broadly speaking, I feel like men have proven largely useless.
tim pool
All in favor of sending the cast of The View into a sewer to deal with rat kings and blockages?
Or how about to an oil refinery?
marc lobliner
How about to a Gulag?
I think that'd be a good place for them.
tim pool
Well, I mean, putting them in prison for having bad opinions, I'm saying... These women have lived such pampered lives, and the voting patterns of many women reflect the sacrifices men have made for them.
While shielding them, shielding, not all women, certainly not all women, shielding many women from the harsh realities of conflict and crisis, and heavy lifting and machinery, and the injuries that come in the workplace, especially with, like, the overwhelmingly male oil refinery job with a high rate of death.
And they're shielded from it, laughing, saying, we don't need men.
I propose we give them what they've asked for, for a small period, so they can figure out, do they really need men or not?
elad eliahu
Hannah, Claire, do women need men?
hannah claire brimelow
Of course they do.
I mean, this is what I find really interesting about these arguments, is this is like, they think they're scoring points with the other young women in the room, right?
They're doing this for clout amongst themselves, but in reality, like, at least two of them are married.
They must have thought they needed a man in some form.
And I think, fundamentally, this is a really divisive conversation, right?
It reminds me of the way the Democrats are like, we are such a divided country because of the Republicans.
It's their fault.
Like, it's the same logic here.
Like, Women and men don't get along, but I'm just going to talk nasty about this one side, right?
Like, if men were to walk around being like, men don't need women, they would either – women would be like, you're gay, or they'd be like, how could you say that?
We give life.
We do all these things.
I think men and women are meant to be in partnership.
There's a reason they're complementary, and I think this is a really arrogant way to behave.
I don't like it.
I think it's gross.
tim pool
It's true, but let's be honest, men have invented artificial wombs, so now the question is, do men need women?
hannah claire brimelow
We can grow babies in a Petri dish!
marc lobliner
This is so much deeper than where we're going here, because this train of thought is the reason our society is where it's at right now.
The feminist movement has killed society.
Men need to be masculine.
We need toxic masculinity.
We need men to be fathers.
You look at all the discrepancies with the inner city and violence.
It all comes down to fathers.
It all comes down to men.
This thinking that we do not need strong men in society is what's killing our society.
So that's why I said send me the gulags.
Send them off.
First of all, no man wants to go, and you know, man's been down there in a while for any of those women.
I mean, that's gotta be nasty down there, but I'm just, I'm, I'm really tired of hearing this.
It's really just as a guy who literally my entire life is centered around me providing for and protecting my family.
This is just, it upsets me to the core.
It makes me want to violate terms of service on YouTube.
That's how much it affects me.
tim pool
Save it for the after show.
elad eliahu
Just to have an ounce of nuance here, I do think there is a good amount of selection bias going on here.
I think this is like, you're out on the town, some dude's shoving a phone in your face.
Do women need men?
Fair point.
Go to a more conservative city and see how girls respond.
Also, with the way these women are dressed, it just implies a setting, which... But I don't care about the women.
tim pool
The view is what matters.
marc lobliner
The view is the problem.
These girls are whatever.
elad eliahu
The women also don't want to be seen saying on camera now, it's like, oh, I need a man.
It kind of makes them look bad in a messed up, psyche way.
tim pool
That's part of the problem.
hannah claire brimelow
Can I pull this up real quick?
Like that's the weirdest thing out of all of it is that they are looking to each other
and being like, well, if I say that I admit if I admit that I need a man, like I think
they take issue with it.
elad eliahu
What do you want to show?
hannah claire brimelow
And they think that they sound weak and then therefore they're all going with feminism,
which is a corrupt ideology.
tim pool
Anyway, can I pull this up real quick?
This is a council member from NYC, Amanda Farias, saying, where are the men calling
In response to the women getting punched in the face.
The Women's Caucus tweeted, We are deeply disturbed and concerned about widespread reports of attacks against women in New York City that have been confirmed by the NYPD.
So where are the men calling this out?
Oh, there's one.
You arrested him.
And look at these scumbags.
This guy right here, scumbag.
This guy right here, these cops, are scumbags.
Sorry, tomorrow morning on The Culture War, we got some cops on and we're gonna debate policing.
But, sorry, if I was a cop, and they said, you're gonna be transporting Daniel Pena, I'd say, the hell I am.
elad eliahu
Hey Tim, we're just following orders though.
tim pool
Nope, no dice, don't play that game.
They're gonna be like, well, you gotta do it or you're fired.
I'll be like, by all means, you go ahead and fire me.
And then I'm gonna go out there and I'm gonna say I got fired because I refused to take part in the arrest of an innocent man who was trying to save lives in a city plagued by corruption and crime.
But these cops got no problem.
They got no problem justifying in their mind why they should be the one to hold this innocent man, this good Samaritan with cuffs behind his back, scumbags.
And then they say, where are the men calling this out?
You don't need men.
You don't need him.
You arrested him.
That's how much they don't need him.
These women on The View say we don't need men, and it is to the point where, politically, they are arresting the men who are trying to protect them.
elad eliahu
There were no protests for him, by the way.
Nobody came out.
You know, also, a lot of people like to talk about... I mean, Ryan has a nice post here, but nobody's protesting for this guy.
hannah claire brimelow
His fundraiser did pretty well.
elad eliahu
People were protesting for the person who he killed, who was threatening, I believe, other people.
tim pool
Jordan Neely said something to the effect of wanting to kill people and he didn't care what would happen to him.
elad eliahu
There were protests for him, but nobody showed up to protest.
marc lobliner
Well, because I think you could go back to the fact that people who can't afford to take time of their day to protest, like, think about the people who are supporting this guy.
We generally have jobs.
tim pool
Yes.
marc lobliner
And I also don't want to get arrested.
If I'm at a protest and somebody hits me, I'm gonna hit him back.
I'm gonna be arrested.
unidentified
Sure.
tim pool
Weren't you just at a Kyle Rittenhouse thing?
elad eliahu
I was at a Kyle Rittenhouse protest yesterday at Western Kentucky University.
tim pool
I watched your video.
They have no idea what they're talking about.
They're wrong about everything.
They're claiming he killed black people and he's racist and stuff like that.
It's all lies.
It's all not true.
elad eliahu
Many of them were saying specifically that he's like funded by the KKK.
tim pool
Yeah, that was crazy.
elad eliahu
Which kind of doesn't make sense.
And also there's I do think it makes sense, though, that BLM types are anti-Rittenhouse, although he didn't kill any black people.
The white people he killed were effectively pro-BLM.
So in a sense, it does make sense.
unidentified
The logic is maybe they're pretty shaky.
elad eliahu
Yeah.
Do you think, is it soft of me to say, like, a female version of Daniel Penny would be nice?
Like, a girl to protect me?
Why does the man always say... Like, if the woman was armed, I could be the bait, and then the woman could... No?
hannah claire brimelow
He's a handsome man.
unidentified
So if you're a wealthy woman looking for a husband, this is a lie?
elad eliahu
I mean, and like, you know, I could bait the person, people are arguing with me, and then she could light him up for me?
hannah claire brimelow
That's real feminism.
That's a male ally.
elad eliahu
Feminism, yeah.
I don't want to carry the firearm.
It would be hot for the woman to, yeah.
marc lobliner
It's kind of hot, yeah.
tim pool
I think that if you look at divorce rates and you look at the opinions of women, typically situations where it's rare the situation where the man is in the stay-at-home role or the non-provider role, it doesn't tend to work.
And I think what the data shows is that guys feel insecure if they're not providing and women tend to feel unsatisfied if they're not receiving more.
elad eliahu
Would she not respect me if she was caring instead of me?
hannah claire brimelow
I think the protection thing is so interesting because when I was younger and like full of life and fearless like I thought about it less when I was dating people and now that I'm older like I think it was like I don't know somewhere in my mid-20s I was like no the ability to protect me and like their the steps that they actively take to defend themselves and
the people they care about.
Like, this is a this is something I now think about a lot when when dating, because it's an
investment in my future, my safety, the safety of my property and the safety of my future children,
right? Like, when I was younger, I would have been like, yeah, maybe be cool if she carried a gun,
but probably you're weak for not doing it. But now I think of it as like, major, I would not go for
tim pool
sorry. I think this this shifts into a macro problem, where we as individuals, we say like,
an individual should have their rights. But what happens then, en masse, women, maybe because
they're off being pressured to say we don't need no man or something like that, or they genuinely
believe it. Or maybe you have many women who are shielded from the harsh realities because
men are doing the jobs like crawling around sewers.
I'd like to see what The View has to say if men just did not work for a month.
I mean, look, how many episodes of that Survivor show have they done?
I'm not talking about the show Survivor.
They did a bunch of these shows where they got two islands and they put men on one and women on the other.
And then what ends up happening is the women get lost, start crying, and the men within like an hour have a bar set up and are sitting there sipping on coconuts and they have a fire going.
And the women are, there was one I watched that was so brutal, the women were like, they're walking, they're trying to find, uh, uh, supplies or whatever, and they get lost in the jungle, and they walk in circles, and then once they, once they loop back and hit one of their markers, they start breaking down and just start crying.
hannah claire brimelow
Have you seen all these studies that came out recently about how the 8 hour, like you need 8 hours of sleep, was actually based on men and women actually need 9 to 10 hours of sleep a night?
Like, we're different!
We do different things for a reason and it's great, but just different.
tim pool
I would ask this of guys too, like, you know, you're a married man.
In my experience, I barely sleep, but my girlfriend sleeps more than I do.
marc lobliner
Oh, yeah, my wife out sleeps me.
I'm like, how are you still asleep?
Like I've been up for like three hours.
What are you doing?
Women do need more sleep on average.
She's absolutely correct.
tim pool
And this is another thing, too.
For a long time, I think up until the early 90s, painkillers were only tested on men.
And so these doctors were like, man, these women are so weak.
They're complaining.
We give them painkillers.
And then they realized, oh, they don't work on women.
hannah claire brimelow
No and I mean it's really interesting seeing how many like there are a lot of there's this really great book called The Female Brain and it's written by a neurobiologist and she talks about the fact that like they used to just exclude women from studies because be like they mess up the data so crazy but it's like Actually, their hormone cycle is completely different from men.
Women go on a monthly hormone cycle that men don't experience at all.
Men's hormones change with age and stress and stuff.
It's just so interesting that feminism is like, no, we don't need men, but also We're actually completely different.
Like, we're very, very different.
Of course you need men because they do a lot of stuff that you can't.
Like, especially if you think about, like, the reason men and women pair up is because women have to bear children and you're in a much more vulnerable state.
Like, it's good that we depend on each other.
And I think this idea that, like, feminists have created, like, I don't need no man, the word need is such a trigger for them.
They can't see it as, like, hey, it is helpful to be in a partnership.
Where you have people covering different bases so we can keep the species alive.
Instead they see it as it's all about them and how they perceive themselves as weak if they admit they need help.
tim pool
It's interesting though because, you know, in the clip that we showed, in the full video, they ask men, do men need women?
The men say yes.
marc lobliner
Yeah.
tim pool
But a man saying they need women is different.
If you went to a guy and said, do you need a woman to survive?
You could say, like, I guess emotionally life would not be fulfilling without a woman.
No, like, no, no, no, in terms of resources, materials, getting a job, do you need a woman?
Well, no, no, I could figure it out.
When men are asked, do you need women?
They're talking about life fulfillment and starting a family, the things they want to achieve and accomplish with their lives can't be done without a woman.
I think the way the women are taking it is, do you need a man in terms of surviving?
And they're like, no, I don't need a man.
As opposed to, I think it's being viewed differently.
Women internalize it as, I don't need a man to survive.
Which, in the wilderness you would.
A man would have a higher rate of survival than a woman on their own.
But men are looking at it more emotionally and women are looking at it more materially.
hannah claire brimelow
And I think some of the girls they interview on the street, like, I bet all of them are really salty at some guy who has not texted them back.
You know what I mean?
Like, it is fair to say that, like, women will assume more masculine responsibilities if they feel like there are not men in their lives they can depend on, right?
So if you have a bad experience with men, and I think you've talked about this a little bit, like, When there are not strong male leaders and there aren't fathers and you're having all these terrible romantic relationships, of course women become bitter and are like, I don't even want to deal with you guys.
On the other hand, let's not fool ourselves.
Men and women need each other and that's good.
marc lobliner
What's crazy is the way they're dressed looks like they're really trying to attract a man.
Like, that's the whole funny part of this.
Like, you're not wearing that for you.
tim pool
They're wearing it for other women.
marc lobliner
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
That's true.
Like, makeup, plastic surgery.
So, like, I'm not gonna single any woman out, but there's a lot of videos and photos of women, they have lip fillers.
hannah claire brimelow
I'm getting nervous in the room.
tim pool
I'm not talking about you.
unidentified
You don't have lip fillers.
hannah claire brimelow
I don't have lip fillers.
tim pool
But there was this one woman who posted a TikTok, and she was like, How come everybody is saying that I look like I'm 45, I'm 26, and they're like, oh, because of all the plastic surgery you got, you look like someone who's desperately trying to look 26, like a 45-year-old woman or a 50-year-old woman.
She's like, oh my god.
No guy.
Like, rarely.
Rare guys.
Because there are certainly guys who like a lot of different things.
Some guys like morbidly obese chicks, some guys like skinny chicks, whatever.
Certainly some guys like the crazy plastic surgery.
Most guys don't like it at all.
marc lobliner
Can you just imagine the guy who's like, yeah, you know, I'd hit it, but man, her eyebrows aren't long enough.
tim pool
And her lips aren't puffy enough.
elad eliahu
You might need to ask Jeff Bezos.
Some guys like it, that's fine.
tim pool
But my point is, on average, when you go out and you're talking to guys, guys are just like, regular looking women are fine.
You know what I mean?
And this is actually true in the data.
I believe it was OkCupid put out their data on who men message.
It might have been Tinder.
Women only go for the top 80% of men, and men have a standard bell curve, where, like, if a guy sends 10 messages, 2 go to low, 2 go to high, you know, 1 to the 3rd, 1 to the 7th, and then they send most of their messages to average-looking women, it's a standard bell curve.
So guys are kind of just like, don't need none of that.
So then why are women getting surgery and doing all this makeup?
For other women.
marc lobliner
Wow.
hannah claire brimelow
I think that is a part of it.
I think, well first off, I would hate to be a man.
You guys are great, but the idea of having to- But we have so much agency.
I don't know that I love that.
elad eliahu
I feel like I could do anything in the world.
hannah claire brimelow
But you also have to hit on women and ask them out.
elad eliahu
But I love having that choice and opportunity.
hannah claire brimelow
That's cool for you.
There are just things that men have to do.
A woman's Tinder versus a man's Tinder.
It's none for me.
tim pool
A woman on Tinder, women don't need to swipe.
Well, I guess you do.
All women have to do is swipe on every single guy, and then wait a day, and then go into their inbox, and scroll through all the men who have messaged them and say, he looks good.
Men have to swipe on every single woman, then send messages to as many as they can, and get one response back.
hannah claire brimelow
Like, that's so much worse.
You guys have it rough.
tim pool
That's awful.
That's why Bumble got invented.
Because they were like, this way men won't harass women, but women would have to initiate with men, so men aren't the ones constantly chasing after.
Because I think the view was like with Tinder, guys stopped using Tinder legitimately.
It's supposed to be, you look good, I'll swipe on you.
You look bad, I'll swipe off on you.
You look good, I'll swipe on you.
Not you, I swipe left.
And then what happens is, guys eventually were like, it's too much work.
And so they swipe right on every single woman.
So Tinder had to put a limit on how many women you can swipe right on.
So guys are trying to just be like, I will take a message from any woman!
And women were like, I get too many messages from guys.
So that's like the duality of the dating scene for men and women.
hannah claire brimelow
I also think men feel pressures that, like, women take for granted that they feel, right?
Like, a lot of men feel the pressure to be the provider for the family, right?
And women kind of get the out of being like, well, maybe you can stay at home or you can do whatever.
Not that that isn't hard work.
Like, there's a sacrifice there, too.
That must be really difficult to navigate in your 20s and 30s as a young man being like, well, if I want to have a family, I have to be ambitious.
I have to push myself.
I have to do this, that, and the other.
I need to sit.
There are things that I think women take for granted that men who are trying, not all men, there are awful guys who send you creepy messages or whatever, but a lot of men who want to have strong families or to be a quote-unquote good man, they have a lot of pressure that women just are like, yeah, but that's their job.
marc lobliner
It is very stressful.
It is very stressful when you're presented with the idea of family.
As a man, as a traditional man, because you're not just if you mess up, you're not just messing up yourself.
Your whole family doesn't eat.
It's kind of like owning a business, Tim.
Like if you mess up.
People don't pay their mortgage.
It's much different than losing a job.
If Tim has a bad day at work, he might have to let people go.
tim pool
Same with me.
I'll tell you what really frustrates me.
We tell people, you have unlimited sick time, and if you are sick or think you might be sick, do not come to work.
And then they come anyway.
And then I have to tell them, if I do not work, you do not have a job.
Please do not come to work sick, because I don't want to get sick.
And there are people who are like, no, no, no, I have to come.
I can't do that.
I can't stay home.
I'm like, just stay home.
I will give you more money not to come into work, please.
We'll pay you to stay home when you're sick.
hannah claire brimelow
Really interesting.
tim pool
That's right.
Work from home if you can.
I want to read one super chat before we jump into super chats, because Neglectful Sausage says, wearing it for other women is a coat.
They are still competing to be the most attractive because most attractive gets the best man.
Yes, but the standard of what is beautiful is based on other women.
That's my point.
They're obviously trying to be the most beautiful, but who determines beauty?
Guys, notoriously, will hook up with anything.
So the women are competing with each other to appear more beautiful to each other, and then you end up with women getting weird plastic surgery in their 20s and guys being like, I don't know, it's kind of weird.
hannah claire brimelow
Like no man came up with the idea of eyebrow lamination.
I bet none of you even know what that is.
tim pool
What is that?
Or lip fillers?
elad eliahu
The ubiquity of Botox and lip fillers is very unfortunate.
Every woman does.
tim pool
Oh, and buccal fat removal is so disgusting.
elad eliahu
That's the only thing that we notice, too.
tim pool
Buccal fat removal.
There are these photos.
Of all these female celebrities in their 20s who have gotten the fat in their cheeks removed.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
So their cheeks are sunken in.
And it's disgusting.
It is disgusting.
They look like skulls.
And there's posts.
And I tell you, I'm willing to bet the majority of guys agree with this, but they keep doing it anyway.
Because you look at all the posts, that woman, Erin, what's her face?
Moriarty?
Is that her name?
hannah claire brimelow
The actress?
tim pool
She, she, she, the actress who got roasted because she got her contours done, she said, and it made her cheeks look sunken in, and everyone started, and it looked like she got plastic surgery, whether she did, I don't know, whatever, it looks like she did, and then she actually deleted her social media for a while because all of these guys were like, you're disgusting.
So there are these posts all over Instagram showing the before and after of plastic surgery, and guys are insulting these women who looked good and then got surgery and now look weird.
And they're like, you're gross, you're disgusting, what's wrong?
And it's unfortunate, a lot of guys are like, What is happening to young women is so disappointing, it's so worrisome.
Why are they doing all of this?
They don't look good, but it's because their standard is based on each other.
So if a celebrity high-profile woman with a million followers does it, the other men are trying to compete with her and be on her level, and guys are sitting back being like, none of that looks good, but they keep doing it.
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Oh, whoa, really?
No Clint?
Tbomb85 says, howdy poople.
No, no Clint.
Clint normally has the first one.
hannah claire brimelow
Clint, are you okay?
tim pool
Too bad.
Alpha Turkey says, really?
A Lizzo fundraiser versus wake of an officer.
It's quite incredible if you ask me.
hannah claire brimelow
But he also can't go to the wake because then he would be acknowledging that there is something wrong in New York and that progressive policies have failed.
elad eliahu
He still didn't go to that bridge outside of D.C.
and Maryland either.
I think they said that... He didn't go to East Palestine.
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, like, he's not going anywhere he doesn't want to go.
It's right there.
elad eliahu
It's an hour out from the White House, probably.
Yeah, but he's sleeping.
tim pool
They have him sleep 20 hours a day.
hannah claire brimelow
He has to go to Delaware on the weekends.
He's very busy.
elad eliahu
No, he's Palestine trip.
tim pool
No, they've got him in like a hyperbaric oxygen chamber all day sleeping.
marc lobliner
Oh, my God.
tim pool
And then they pump him full of just, like, crazy uppers and fluids so they can operate at that level for about an hour.
elad eliahu
You know, there were allegations against Lizzo, too, so I'm surprised they brought her.
tim pool
Allegations?
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, she, like, mistreated her dancers and subjected them to, like, semi-sexual stuff.
elad eliahu
So, I guess that's, hey.
tim pool
Yeah.
elad eliahu
Believe all women.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Kohanashi says, why aren't you coming to Louder Than Life, Phil?
Phil's not here.
Phil's not here, man.
hannah claire brimelow
Phil's busy running for Congress in New Hampshire.
No worries.
elad eliahu
You look like Phil a little bit.
You sound like him.
marc lobliner
We have a lot in common.
elad eliahu
Your voice, yeah, a little bit.
Have you tried being a singer before?
marc lobliner
That might be the next thing for me, yeah.
tim pool
Raymond G. Stanley, Jr.
says, Tim, you go from liberal to fence-sitter to right-winger to conservative to online troll.
You're at the top, bro, there's nothing left to call you.
I know, I've gotten it all.
Mediaite called me an online troll.
It's a combination of ignorance but also masterful deflection.
Jon Stewart said, Letitia James knew Trump effectively, I'm paraphrasing, committed fraud because when it came time to pay taxes, Trump undervalued those same properties.
My response was, you don't set the property value of your properties, the state does.
So I tweeted, did Jon Stewart commit fraud when he did this?
It was evaluated at $1.8 million and he only paid tax and he sold it for $17.5 million and only paid tax on $748,000.
So, my point was based on his quote.
What the left then did was conflate my point about Jon Stewart's quote being wrong into, I literally accused Jon Stewart of committing fraud, and then they can debunk that Jon Stewart committed fraud, which was not the point I was making.
I was debunking Jon Stewart's false assertion that Trump committed fraud because he paid lower taxes.
But that's how they deflect.
That's how they get away with lying.
Hopefully on Monday, Jon Stewart has a fake segment where he lies about the criticism.
But good luck, sir.
I wish you the best.
All right, let's grab some more.
Big7588 says, record fundraising event at Epstein Island reunion event.
Federale Actual says, as if Jon Stewart Cux calling Tim an internet troll for being right wasn't enough, he's gotta go and have a based AF take on the Knockout game version 2.0.
Speak on it.
Take my money.
Oh, it was just funny.
There were conservatives like being like, how dare you laugh at this, Tim?
Blah, blah, blah.
And I'm like...
Look, man, I could certainly do a grift where I'm like, strong men must protect women.
Yes, and conservatives, give me money.
No, I left.
People were like, I tweeted, I literally tweeted, I find it funny that women are getting punched in the face in New York City.
That was the tweet.
And then people were like, he's engagement baiting, he's trolling.
And I'm like, I'm not trolling.
I am not engagement baiting.
I was sitting here in this room, and I clicked play on the video, and I left.
And that was it.
And then I typed out, I find it funny, and that's literally what my experience was.
And, of course, I can explain it in greater detail, but I instantly laughed.
I'm like, you reap what you sow.
Some people are like, it's schadenfreude.
I'm like, it's not really schadenfreude.
I'm not glad they're living this way.
It's just funny.
It's ironic.
Like these women complaining, it's like, I chose to live this way, and now I have to live this way.
And I'm like, uh-huh.
Why am I mad?
I don't live there.
I got out of that place.
Now, if someone came to West Virginia and did that, they're gonna have some trouble.
But, you know, that's a different story.
You live in New York and you want to live in New York, that's fine.
We here in West Virginia, we take very seriously.
For instance, Jefferson County banned drag shows with kids.
That's where we're operating out of, West Virginia.
They have constitutional carry.
So the women in my life, they can have a whole variety of guns on them.
They can have 12.
They can carry three AR-15s, a Barrett M82, and four different, a variety of pistols all over them.
If they want to carry that much weight, they can.
That's West Virginia.
And you know what happened?
If you were walking down the street in West Virginia with a Barrett M82 slung over your shoulder, And that thing weighs a good amount.
Would that thing weigh like, I don't know, 40 pounds or something?
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
People are gonna be like, sick!
If you do that in New York, everyone would be screaming and running in random directions.
If you were to walk through New York with an AR-15, just like, not at low ready, but like, slung, like, over your shoulder or whatever, like, around your neck, people would be screaming and calling the police.
You do that in West Virginia, a guy's gonna walk up and be like, oh, what do you got there?
What are you operating with?
And then he's gonna be like, oh yeah, back home, I'm a big, you know, I got this, that, I got this.
They'll just, they'll talk to you.
Or, they won't even say anything.
I saw a guy walking down the street with a crossbow, and a, and a, like a satchel of bolts.
Say nothing, I don't know.
I'm like, hey, he's probably going target practice or something, I don't know.
Like, I'm not worried about it.
And if the guy were to take it, load it up, and start aiming it, then I'd be like, okay, but that, I feel like, look, it doesn't happen.
Let's grab some more Super Chats.
Craig Charlton says, what's the deal with Operation Steadfast Defense with NATO doing an exercise?
No idea.
Not sure what that is.
Steadfast Defense.
Not sure.
Hard K says, how many dudes did Diddy diddle if Diddy did diddle dudes?
Dude, Diddy is such... There's so much to do with the Diddy thing.
hannah claire brimelow
Just more and more stuff is coming out, like you saw Usher made some remarks, there's someone else who's like... Fitty sense going in, bro.
Like, there's all kinds of stuff.
Oh man.
tim pool
Diddy did it, but he didn't do as much as you think he did, he did a whole lot worse.
There's a good opportunity there for some, you know, how many dudes did Diddy diddle?
Or is it, how many dudes could Diddy diddle, if Diddy could diddle dudes?
You know, I like you to did diddle dudes.
How many dudes did Diddy Diddle if Diddy... Diddy... It got me!
How many dudes did Diddy Diddle if Diddy did diddle dudes?
unidentified
Gah!
tim pool
I got it!
There we go.
Alright.
Anyway.
The Diddler.
Where we at?
Where we at?
The Dude Abide says, News.
The Illinois Sheriff's Association and 29 attorneys have filed amicus briefs to SCOTUS, telling them they need to take up the Illinois assault weapons ban case, stating the Seventh Circuit is illogical.
Here, here.
They wanna take your guns, but they're not gonna be able to.
We've been winning constitutional carry across the board.
It's been great.
We'll grab some more.
Tim Brackett says, get in shape and vote 2024.
I gotta tell ya.
You know, right now, you may be sitting there, and people often ask you, say, Tim, what can I do?
There's a lot of things you can do.
Follow Scott Pressler.
That dude is a master of voter registration.
And also, he did some big city cleanups.
Those are cool, too.
So, fan of his efforts to register voters.
He's actually responsible for flipping some states.
I think Florida went more registered Republicans than Democrats, thanks to the work of Scott Pressler and those working with him.
But I also want to just stress, It is not hard to do exercise and get in shape.
It is seriously not hard.
Half an hour a couple times a week.
Just basic, basic exercise.
Even if just starting going walking if you haven't already.
I was saying before I recommend MyFitnessPal because it has exercises in it and it can track your macros.
That means your carbs, your fat, and your protein.
And you can actually set it Hey, I want to weigh this much.
I'm this tall.
This is how much I weigh.
Here's what I want to weigh.
You can actually put in how much activity you want to do, and it has exercises put in already.
It does cost money.
But it's not hard.
It seriously isn't.
So I recommend, man, if there's anything any of you can do, it's by November, show off your before and after pics.
My attitude was, if I'm gonna say we should be strong and responsible, then I should do literally everything in my power to be at 110%.
And the one thing I'm not doing is lifting.
I do exercise.
I do eat.
I eat decently well.
Now I'm eating better.
Now I'm exercising way more, and I'm lifting.
Because my upper body was totally neglected.
Skateboarding, great.
I got great legs.
They're strong.
Been strong for 20 years.
But I can't lift.
And that's a mistake.
It's not well-rounded.
So I'm like, I'm slacking.
What am I doing?
What am I doing?
I finish exercising, then I put on the five and I eat some food.
unidentified
No, no, no.
tim pool
We're going to throw in a half an hour to an hour of lifting three times a week.
Cause you can do it, you can do it.
elad eliahu
Minute for minute, probably the best use of your time.
marc lobliner
Oh, lifting is life.
unidentified
Yeah.
marc lobliner
I know I'm kind of cliche, but, but it just changes everything.
And also when you look at the health benefits, it, it actually strength is more of a predicator of morbidity risk.
So your grip strength is more of a predicator of morbidity risk, which is the risk of dying, than cardiovascular.
tim pool
I think the mistake people often make is they say like, you know, you got to get in shape, you got to start lifting.
I started lifting and it's euphoric.
It feels good.
It's like the runner's high.
You ever get a runner's high?
I don't run.
I've gotten that from riding a bike when I would ride to work over the Williamsburg Bridge.
So I was riding like seven miles plus up and over the bridge, and by the time I got to the top of the bridge, it was runner's high.
It was like, I wanted to punch a bear in the face.
marc lobliner
I just can't function without lifting.
Lifting's life.
I just love it.
tim pool
It feels so good afterwards.
It's like I feel like I could punch a bear in the face.
Like I walk out of that workout room and I'm like, I just want to find a bear right now.
No, I don't want to.
marc lobliner
I wouldn't advise that.
I'm just kidding.
Yeah, that might not work out well.
tim pool
I'm kidding though, but like you feel great.
You feel like a million, like lightning surging through you.
So I recommend it, man.
Get in shape because hey, look, you know, we're going to be successful.
We're going to win a culture war and we're going to be the envy of lesser men.
And women.
marc lobliner
Lifting weights is white supremacy, though.
Just remember that.
tim pool
It's the gateway, they say.
marc lobliner
You bring out the white supremacist in yourself.
tim pool
Let's go.
We'll grab some more.
What is this?
J. Willie, is that what it says?
Would you consider getting Dr. Mike Israetel on The Culture War to go in-depth about fitness and hypertrophy training?
Maybe.
marc lobliner
He's a friend of mine.
tim pool
Oh, is he?
Did I say his name right?
marc lobliner
Israetel.
tim pool
Israetel.
Yep.
I definitely think it would be good to do a culture war on fitness, the debate around fitness.
I think it was NBC that said working out is the gateway to becoming far right or whatever.
marc lobliner
Of course.
tim pool
And like, they desperately want you to be fat and unhappy.
marc lobliner
Yep.
tim pool
Do not listen to them.
If the left says don't work out and don't think critically, you must work out and think critically.
Freedom and independence.
All right, Lurch says, Mark looks like a swole Posobic.
marc lobliner
I like it!
That's a very nice compliment.
I like it.
unidentified
Let's go.
tim pool
We'll grab some more Super Chats.
unidentified
Where are we at?
tim pool
The Emperor's Champion says most people are not leaders and just follow orders.
So if you put good leadership in charge, cops will more likely do the right thing.
I agree with that.
I do.
But we're gonna have a debate tomorrow, 10 a.m., on the Tenet Media YouTube channel.
Phil will be joining, and then we have two current police officers.
elad eliahu
I think you said one's an NYPD officer?
tim pool
No, no, no, I don't think they're NYPD.
elad eliahu
Okay.
Do you know where they're cops?
tim pool
I'm assuming one's Philly.
Which will be real interesting, because we're gonna be like, crime is bad, and he's gonna be like, oh, you're telling me.
Philly!
But we'll see.
I think we'll probably agree on 80% of things.
And I think the general idea with these cops is they're probably going to agree.
You know, there's a lot of people who don't like when I'm critical of policing as a system in the way I am.
But I have a feeling these cops are going to actually agree a lot.
And they're going to be like, we have these problems we need to fix.
Because, you know, I've been saying this since 2020 with the whole abolish the police thing.
I think the institution of police is good.
I think cities should have police.
I think the problem is we have corrupt cities, we have corrupt government, we have ignorant voter bases, and we have to reform our culture.
I've also said, if everyone in this country was as devout as Seamus Coghlan of Freedom Tunes, you would not need police.
Because of the shared morality.
marc lobliner
Yeah.
tim pool
But when you have, as you become more and more multicultural, morals are few and far between.
Some groups are very strongly moral and some are amoral.
Then you need police to basically... I don't think you necessarily need in every circumstance, but it's good to have arbiters to help maintain order and peace.
But if your police are in alignment with your community, then you're going to have good cops and you're not going to have very many problems.
When you have what we have in New York City, which is a multicultural democracy with cops who don't live anywhere near the community and are just doing a job, you get things like Daniel Petty getting arrested.
They don't know, they don't care.
But, you know, let me grab some more Super Chats.
Tuesday's Child said Michelle had 2016 and 2020 to run, but didn't.
I don't think she likes being called a man.
I seriously... Yeah, you're right.
I mean...
There must be nothing more insulting than being a middle-aged woman who is being accused by millions of people of being a man, and they're posting screenshots of your crotch.
And, like, from all these different shows you've ever been on, like, that's merciless, you know?
I think a lot of guys wouldn't care so much.
They'd just be like, well, you know.
Xtinman says the only thing worse than calling a woman a man is asking a fat girl if she's pregnant.
elad eliahu
I think manly looking women get less leeway nowadays because of more trans women being a thing.
Did that sound sound?
hannah claire brimelow
What do you mean by leeway?
elad eliahu
Well, like, if there's a manly-looking woman now, back in the day you might have given them more benefit of the doubt, but now if there's a manly-looking woman, you're like, well, that might actually be a trans.
marc lobliner
We really don't know anymore.
elad eliahu
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, well, that's the other thing, too.
It's like, what were we talking about the other day?
You've got women say Lizzo's beautiful, and then if you say, you look like Lizzo, they get offended, they cry.
Like, if you told a woman, like, if you ask a woman if she likes Dylan Mulvaney and she says yes, do you think Dylan Mulvaney's beautiful if she says yes?
Because you kind of look like Dylan.
She would be very, very upset.
marc lobliner
Oh my god.
tim pool
Yeah.
elad eliahu
I don't know, who's prettier, Dylan Mulvaney or Lizzo?
tim pool
Lizzo.
marc lobliner
Well, I'm gonna go with the one with the proper plumbing.
elad eliahu
There's a lot of plumbing there.
tim pool
A lot of plumbing.
Like, is a clown attractive?
You know what I mean?
elad eliahu
A hippopotamus isn't, but like... Yeah, yeah.
No, neither are.
It's two bad choices.
That's why it's a good question.
marc lobliner
Oh, goodness.
unidentified
Let's get ready for that members only show where we can really like... I got so much I want to say, but I'm like...
tim pool
I'm gonna wait.
marc lobliner
We're gonna wait.
tim pool
Go to TimCast.com, click join us, become a member, because you can tell where this is gonna go, but let's read some more Super Chats.
I can't respond.
I want to.
I'll respond later.
Alright.
Insert clever name here says, listening from the gym right now, gotta get jacked for the, get your drinks ready, Civil War.
I think it's actually quite simple.
Your chance of survival is substantially increased if you're in shape.
marc lobliner
Yes.
tim pool
It's not about whether it was Civil War or anything like that, it's if you want to succeed, being in shape helps you succeed.
That's it.
You'll have more energy, you'll be more alert, you'll be more focused, all of that.
So, uh, let's win.
Let's win, baby.
You want to win a culture war?
Get in shape.
And you can do a little bit, man, it's not even that, you add a little bit.
Here's the big thing.
The macro tracking, even if you're not exercising, do you have like an app or you do all this stuff?
marc lobliner
Yeah, I generally go by, I know what I'm eating, I have meals, but yeah, generally speaking, my clients, macro track.
tim pool
You could easily do it in your head too.
marc lobliner
I recommend getting an app.
Most people suck at it and you're gonna sneak stuff in there.
You're gonna have snacks.
tim pool
The macro tracking really helped me figure out my diet properly.
Because for a long time skating, I'm like, I didn't know what I needed more of or less of.
And so I was like, I don't know, should I have another protein shake?
Like, what do I do?
So now with the app, we have daily goals.
I know if I'm in deficit, if I'm up or below.
And then the fitness app actually has two settings.
You can actually set it to where if you, my fitness pal, if you exercise, It's awesome.
will actually alter your daily macros and increase them for what you use.
So if you say, here's how tall I am, here's how much I wanna weigh,
and then I have the Garmin Fenix Pro watch, which whenever I exercise I turn on,
it then sends the data to the app, the app then says, hey, you burned 1,300 calories
in that workout, you need to add this much more protein for the day, this much more carbs, this much more fat,
it's awesome.
marc lobliner
Yeah.
tim pool
So the combination of the two is good, but I think my point is, if the only thing you did
was track your macros, you'd probably get fit.
marc lobliner
You 100% would.
Just knowing what you're eating, you'll be more cognizant of what you're eating.
Because a lot of people just snack.
Like people put down thousands of calories just munching.
tim pool
Just nibbling.
marc lobliner
No idea.
tim pool
The crazy thing is the fat, I didn't realize.
So I was doing a keto.
I was doing basically keto for a long time.
And I felt like I wasn't eating that much, but actually the amount of fat that I was getting was massive calories.
marc lobliner
That adds up.
tim pool
Crazy.
So like, what was like a tablespoon of butter is a hundred calories.
Amazing.
I can do four tablespoons of jelly and get a hundred calories.
So what I'm doing for breakfast now is I'm doing a mochi.
Super easy.
You take a serving of white rice flour, a serving of milk, stir it up, put it in the microwave, and it turns into effectively a bland pancake.
But then I put butter and jam on it, and it's so good.
You guys have had mochi before, right?
Which is awesome.
And then that gets me, like, that's my basic breakfast, but you get your carbs, you get your fat, and then from that I realized, like, the butter you put on toast That'll get ya.
marc lobliner
Oh yeah.
tim pool
Crazy.
marc lobliner
It's the toppings.
Look at like salad.
You put dressing on that thing.
It's more caloric than a Big Mac.
elad eliahu
You douse your salad in ranch.
Yeah, it's gonna be more calories.
marc lobliner
That's the good stuff though.
elad eliahu
People love doing that.
They'll order a salad doused in ranch.
tim pool
We do sushi on Fridays.
And like after we wrap up the culture war, everybody, you know, comes and we have sushi.
It's like a company thing.
And while I was waiting for it, I pulled out this Southwest Ranch dip that we have,
and it's like veggie dip.
And I'm like, I'll do a couple pieces of salami and some dip, right?
Probably not even that much food.
Like what, four pieces of salami dipped in the ranch?
It was like 600 calories.
The fat in the salami, the fat in the dip was insane.
I was like, I was at like 50 grams of fat already.
And I'm like, that's what people don't realize.
And now I understand why there are products that say low fat, because that fat sneaks up on you.
marc lobliner
Yeah, and that's where I get in arguments with keto people.
I'm a calories in, calories out kind of guy.
I've always been get adequate protein, get adequate fat, fill in the rest of the carbohydrate.
But the people who have gotten results from keto, they are so into it, they will fight you.
They will fight you over it.
tim pool
I lost 30 pounds when I started keto.
marc lobliner
You're eliminating an entire macronutrient.
You're taking away carbs.
You're taking away all the yummy stuff, all the chips, all the good stuff, right?
So you're stuck eating butter and pork rinds.
tim pool
I actually, so for me, I was down to like 40 carbs a day, but I actually wasn't getting a lot of protein either.
I was probably getting like 50.
I was mostly fat.
marc lobliner
Oh my god.
tim pool
Yeah, almost no protein.
Because I had no idea.
I was doing like, I would have like steak and chicken, and then I would have avocados, I would have sour cream, I would have just really really high fat stuff, dips.
And then I started adding protein when I realized I wasn't getting enough.
I started doing casein at night.
And then I figured out like, and then I figured I should probably just get a personal trainer to tell me what to do.
And I did.
And now he gave me the app and he says, eat this.
And I said, I'll eat whatever you tell me.
Cause if you tell me to do something and I have bad results, I stopped doing it.
So let me, let me do it.
And I've never felt better.
Yeah.
I, I, yeah.
marc lobliner
And it's empowering.
Like you're in charge of it.
If you mess up, it's on you.
It's your accountability.
tim pool
To be fair, I did feel good cutting the carbs in the first place.
I think the issue was several years ago, if I had balanced what I was eating in the first place, that would have probably set me on the right track.
By eliminating most of the carbs, it dramatically reduced a lot of the caloric intake, which benefited me greatly, but I would have benefited more by just doing a standard macro tracking with a trainer.
marc lobliner
Yeah, absolutely.
But keto does serve its purpose.
It's easy.
It's brainless.
Like, hey, don't eat carbs.
Cool.
You cut out 33% of your available macros because you got protein, carbs and fat.
So you're naturally going to eat less.
Yeah.
And it takes away the good snacking foods like they're snacking on pork rinds.
Who the hell eats pork rinds?
tim pool
We just had packs and packs of salami.
marc lobliner
Salami.
tim pool
It's so good.
Like the good.
marc lobliner
That is so Chicago of you, dude.
tim pool
Probably, yeah.
marc lobliner
That is so Chicago.
tim pool
Alright, we'll grab a couple more.
Let's see what superchats we have.
Couple more on the way out.
Ryan Hudson says, on the bench for Democrats, do not overlook Cory Booker.
Also, please make a shirt that has HCB's monogram, and I hate it here.
P.S.
Get Dr. Phil on the show.
Would be an awesome show.
elad eliahu
Cory Booker, Senator from New Jersey.
I feel like I haven't heard a peep out of him ever since he ran in the past primary, yeah.
tim pool
Dr. Phil would be great for Culture War.
Yeah, let's see if we could, because I'd love to talk to him about the border stuff.
Take the lead on that border stuff.
Tell me, man.
You're the guy who talked to this.
What's up?
Alright, Leon Yoder says, the only reason I question Cassandra posting such opinionated positions on Israel is because she is editor-in-chief of TimCast News, and IMO News should at least appear neutral as much as possible.
She blocked me on X for pushing back on her Israel positions, lol.
I assure you, my friend, I have met no more an honorable person than Cassandra when it comes to news.
She quite literally will say, I can't do this story, I'm too biased, someone else do it.
So like, she's totally aware of that, and I tremendously respect that.
That's why I think she does a good job.
There are stories on monkeys, or whatever, she'll be like, I can't.
Like, nope!
There's a funny story out of Thailand where monkeys have taken over, and Cassandra was like, the monkeys have done nothing wrong, it's the people's fault.
hannah claire brimelow
There wasn't some I can't remember who it was I should look it up when I first because when we started back in the day it was like just me and Cassandra for a little while and there was someone had died and some like you know former Secretary of State I can't remember who it was.
tim pool
It wasn't not not.
hannah claire brimelow
It would have been 2021 at that point and because that's when I started working here and like She messaged me and was like, hey, I hate this person, so I can't write the opening.
Like, it won't be fair.
Can you do this?
And I was like, sure, okay, sounds good.
Yeah, I see.
elad eliahu
I think it's valuable that, I think it's one of the Tim Cass Media strengths that we have a diversity of political thought here.
I think a lot of people talk about wanting a diversity of political thought, but don't actually engage in it.
And I'd like to say I'm proud to work at a company that has it.
tim pool
Well, not just that, but I mean, you consider yourself pro-Israel.
elad eliahu
Yeah.
tim pool
And Cassandra recommended you.
She was like, Ilad does a really, really great job, and you guys are ideologically on the other ends of that issue.
I think, at scnr.com, I think we have that good balance, which leads to everyone just being met all the time.
But that being said, we're going to go to the members-only show and be not-so-family-friendly, so smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share this show with your friends, head over to TimCast.com, click join us to become a member and watch that uncensored show where we say naughty things.
You can follow the show at TimCast IRL, you can follow me personally at TimCast.
Mark, do you want to shout anything out?
marc lobliner
Yeah, you can follow me on Twitter, X, whatever it's called, at Mark Globaliner, Instagram at Mark Globaliner, YouTube is youtube.com slash tigerfitness.
Yeah, that's my companies if you have any nutritional supplement needs tigerfitness.com and you can find Ambrosia planta, which is the number one plant-based protein in the country, at Sprouts and the Vitamin Shoppe.
hannah claire brimelow
That's cool.
It's been fun having you here.
marc lobliner
It's been great.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, that's good.
marc lobliner
Appreciate it.
hannah claire brimelow
Hopefully you'll be back soon.
I'm Hannah-Claire Brimlow.
I'm a writer for scnr.com.
That's Scanner News.
I'm really grateful to be a part of that team.
It's a fun place to work.
You can follow our work at TimCastNews on Instagram and Twitter.
You can follow me personally on Instagram at hannahclaire.b and on Twitter at hcbrimlow.
Thank you so much.
Hi, Elad.
elad eliahu
Hey, Alad Eliyahu, field reporter here at Scanner News.
Hannah-Claire already said it, but you could follow our work at Timcast News on Instagram and Twitter.
There's a lot of great stuff there.
Come hang out with us in the aftershow.
Serge, what's up?
tim pool
Let's just debate Israel in the aftershow.
elad eliahu
I feel like everybody here loves Israel so much.
What's there to debate?
hannah claire brimelow
What's your handle?
Wait, you're on Twitter too, right?
elad eliahu
I'm at Alad Eliyahu, but the Timcast News Twitter is where you can find a lot of our great reporting.
unidentified
Oh yeah, and I am Serge.com.
Thanks for coming, Elad.
Thanks for coming.
I appreciate it a lot.
See you guys in the after show.
Become a member.
Cheers.
tim pool
We'll see you all over at TimCast.com in about a minute.
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