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tim pool
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I just, I would just like to say that there is nothing, nothing a trans person can do to sound like the opposite sex.
There are things they can do to try and imitate, but like, I gotta be honest, there has never been a trans person, I shouldn't say never, but it's like 99% where it's like you hear them speak and you go, is that a man or a woman?
ian crossland
It's usually like, The problem is now, I only know if it's like a trans person.
Like I can't tell if it's a man that is transitioning to a woman or a woman transitioning to a man.
tim pool
I just hear that voice.
Incorrect, incorrect.
Trans men sound like men putting on a voice.
I'm sorry, trans women sound like men putting on a voice and trans women sound, oh my God, this is so confusing.
libby emmons
It's confusing.
unidentified
Females who want to be men They sound like this.
Deeper voice, but they still have a squeak.
So there's something interesting in... And it's all the same voice somehow.
tim pool
For people who... I sing a lot, right?
There are different ways you can sing the same note.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So, you can, you can try and do like, um, a yellow, what is it?
Yellow Ledbetter?
Was that the name of the song?
ian crossland
Yeah, that's a Pearl Jam song.
unidentified
On a wheel!
On a wizard!
ian crossland
On a wheel!
unidentified
Whatever the fuck he sang.
ian crossland
I love that song.
tim pool
I don't know what the fuck he sang.
unidentified
It doesn't matter.
It doesn't even matter.
tim pool
But here's my point.
You can sing the same key, the same note, but make your voice sound like this or like this.
unidentified
Yeah, we have a certain range.
Males and females have a different range.
tim pool
So what happens is, every trans man I've met, in every video I've seen, it's very obviously a female, but it'll be a woman with a beard, talking like this.
unidentified
Is that Buck Sexton?
tim pool
I went in for a job the other day, And I'm like, it's a vocal fry, your voice is high-pitched but forced down, and it's obvious.
And trans women are the same thing.
Deep voice with a high, so I'm talking like this, it's like, you just sound like Spongebob.
unidentified
They're trying.
It's because they're forcing it, they're trying.
libby emmons
No, go ahead, I'm sorry.
unidentified
No, go ahead.
libby emmons
A lot of times, too, when you have a man who's posing as a woman, he just talks totally normal and then says, it's ma'am.
And you're like, really?
unidentified
It's ma'am!
ian crossland
Those are good videos.
libby emmons
And you're like, oh!
Or like the guy who called into a bank and he lost access to his bank account because his name was Shirley whatever.
And the bank is like, no, that's not, you're not a woman, this is not a woman's voice.
And so he got all pissed off at the bank.
And it's like, you're the one who called.
unidentified
Is this the story?
libby emmons
You're the one who called and said your name was Shirley.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
tim pool
Toronto woman, allegedly, you mean male?
libby emmons
Toronto woman who's a man.
tim pool
I got locked out of my accounts because my voice wasn't completely perfect, says Emily Rose Kinsey.
unidentified
I've worked customer service and they specifically train you that you're not supposed to be like, oh, you're not this person because of the way your voice sounds.
It was part of our training.
libby emmons
But you know what's nice about that?
If somebody calls into my bank and they're like, I'm Libby Emmons, I would certainly hope that nobody gives them access to my shit.
unidentified
They're literally trained not to do that.
Here's the story.
tim pool
Biden admin awards $200,000 grant to create trans voice training app.
unidentified
Wow.
serge du preez
You already have one, it's a male voice training app.
tim pool
Okay, I'd like to make something very clear.
What you typically hear from trans women is a caricature of Valley Girl.
libby emmons
Yep.
serge du preez
Yeah, definitely.
tim pool
So, in order to try and sound like a woman, they will raise their voice in a weird way, and then talk like this, kind of like they're trying to imitate a woman.
unidentified
Yeah, caricature of a woman.
tim pool
Whereas your average person just talks.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
And women have a different vocal range than men.
unidentified
Yeah, you can't do it.
It's never gonna happen.
I mean, just like you can't change your sex.
ian crossland
Is it if you get to the vocal cords early enough in the formation?
unidentified
No.
libby emmons
No.
unidentified
You can't even do it then.
tim pool
Look, I will stress, none of this, this argument from the leftists that puberty matters is a fucking lie.
Easily proven by watching a 10-year-old, a 12-year-old boy, a 10-year-old boy do the first 900 on a half-pipe.
I'm sorry.
Not the first, uh, what do you do?
Straight up 1080.
I'm sorry, straight 1080.
And you have the first ever 1080 ever done was a 12 year old boy.
There is no female.
They argue, it's all about puberty.
unidentified
Male puberty is- And then that's such a sick argument, too, because then they're like, no, trans them before puberty.
Okay, so that's your argument?
Like, you're sick.
libby emmons
No, that's not- Well, and the reason they want to trans them before puberty is so that they pass better as adults.
That's the entire reason, and they say that that's life-saving.
unidentified
It's like, so that they can have, like, mediocre sex later with, like, people that don't want to have sex with them and, like, never reproduce?
Oh, awesome.
tim pool
Jazz Jennings does not sound like a female and does not look like a female.
Jazz Jennings just looks like a little boy.
unidentified
And Jazz Jennings is pissed already about what happened to them.
tim pool
Oh, I mean the clips are just stuck.
Yeah, they get more and more fucked up every time.
unidentified
Oh, really?
Oh, yeah.
ian crossland
Are you speaking out against it?
unidentified
Yeah, I mean, she's just upset.
tim pool
Depressed, suicidal, you name it.
There's a prominent trans person, who I'm not going to name because I don't want to start beef, who is very clearly, and this is a person who went through pre-bubescent gender-affirming care, as they call it.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
Their hands are massive.
Right.
Their neck is huge.
unidentified
Bone structure.
tim pool
Their bone structure is clearly male.
Yeah, they're male.
They have a little boy's voice, but it's clearly not a woman.
And I'm like, look, It's fair to say there are some times where, remember It's Pat from Saturday Night Live?
There are certainly people that are androgynous and you don't know for sure.
But the majority of trans people, even if they go through the surgery before puberty, you can tell.
And you're just like, mm, you know.
libby emmons
The other thing too, if you go through the hormone stuff and the puberty blockers before puberty and you're a man, and you grow up, you will never have an orgasm.
ian crossland
Yeah.
libby emmons
Never.
So parents who are like, you know, this is what my kid wants, what they're saying is not only will you be sterile, but you will never have any sexual satisfaction in your life.
unidentified
No, they want mediocre sex with somebody that doesn't.
libby emmons
No, no, there's like, no, you never, like, how is it mediocre?
unidentified
I mean.
Not everybody orgasms every time they have sex.
I mean, that could still be considered mediocre.
You're like, it was alright.
It was better than not doing it.
ian crossland
It's like cold pizza, you know?
It's better than no pizza.
libby emmons
I didn't get off, but like, it was alright.
unidentified
It was better than not doing it.
ian crossland
I'd give it like a 17% if there's no orgasm involved.
unidentified
A lot of women don't orgasm, like first of all.
So that's definitely a thing.
So already they're having mediocre sex.
It's very sad.
ian crossland
But there's like the whole chasing the orgasm, which is like its own hell.
unidentified
That's awesome.
Yeah, you shouldn't do that either.
ian crossland
Yeah, I didn't do that.
unidentified
Yeah, because then it's not, shouldn't all be about that.
tim pool
Jazz Jennings is a eunuch with tits who will... So sad.
...whose genetic line has ended.
And after billions of years of reproduction, it's over.
It doesn't matter what Jazz thinks.
It doesn't matter what you think.
In 100 years, Jazz will not exist.
You see, here's the reality.
Humans are immortal.
They really are.
Just not in the way that people wish they were.
They want to live forever.
But you do live forever when you have kids.
Those kids carry on your ideals, your values, and perpetuate your line.
ian crossland
Dude, now we're in the age of digital replication.
unidentified
You just have to have enough kids, because if you just have one, they might turn out to be a jerk or a serial killer or something.
ian crossland
I know John Lennon better than I know his kids, and he's dead.
But just because it's a video.
Internet video.
Video.
Jazz will live in infamy for a hundred thousand years now.
tim pool
But you don't really know John Lennon.
You know, I know.
ian crossland
Yeah, I feel like I know his personality.
Like if he sat down, I'd know how to talk to him normal without having to get to know him.
But compared to Julian, his kid, who's alive, I don't have any because of the video.
tim pool
Or Sean.
ian crossland
Like replication.
Yeah, Sean too.
Like, so instead of replicating ourselves, I think instead of humans now, we're moving towards this transhumanist system where instead of replicating yourself through your children, you're replicating yourself through your digital art, which is very concerning for the survival of the species.
libby emmons
Wasn't Jazz Jennings, didn't Jazz Jennings have like a vagina unraveling thing?
tim pool
That was a viral video where they had a couple other quote-unquote trans kids hanging out with Jazz and Jazz was saying that after multiple surgery complications, Jazz was like, my vagina was unraveling and it's just like, well it's not a vagina, it's a colonic sex hole.
And I'm not being mean or cute.
unidentified
No, it literally is.
libby emmons
It's just actually what it is.
tim pool
It's very sad.
I'm done with them redefining words.
Exactly.
Let's address what it is.
unidentified
Yeah, what's the point of having it?
Oh, so somebody can have sex with you.
tim pool
It is made of colon.
libby emmons
There's no feeling.
tim pool
It is made of colon, and it is for someone else to have sex with.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
It's sex.
It's a surgical fleshlet.
libby emmons
It's like a sex doll situation.
tim pool
Yeah, you're turning your kid into a sex doll.
Jazz, I believe, has stomach lining.
libby emmons
Yeah, because Jazz transitioned too young and did not have enough genital flesh.
tim pool
No, no, no.
But you can choose between colon, which smells like feces, or stomach lining, which kind of smells like feces.
unidentified
Oh, God.
tim pool
And I made this point, so we were actually, we had a trans person who was going to come on the Culture War show, and then I tweeted that if you are attracted, if you're a male that is attracted to a trans woman, you are gay.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
You are homosexual.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
Because homosexual means attracted to the same sex.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And I said, and furthermore, any male who is sexually attracted to fucking a wound is a vulnophiliac.
libby emmons
That's a old thing that's been with our culture for a long time.
unidentified
Really?
libby emmons
Yeah.
unidentified
It has?
tim pool
Yeah.
Oh my gosh.
So, volniphilia is the Latin voln for wound, which I think voln becomes won, which becomes wound, and philia, you know.
So, volniphiliacs.
unidentified
Yeah, so then they try to become lesbians eventually because they realize, like, you know, no man really wants that and they actually want to, like, have babies with somebody and, you know, want a female.
Yeah.
And then so they're like, well, hey, how about you lesbians?
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Now that's transphobic.
tim pool
Yeah.
unidentified
So what's up?
libby emmons
And girls aren't allowed to say no anyway.
unidentified
And lesbians are like, I can tell the difference.
tim pool
You know it's really fucked up.
unidentified
I know what a real female is.
tim pool
The overwhelming majority of people, no matter what the left says, want kids.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
That's a fact.
unidentified
And that's good.
That's amazing.
tim pool
The overwhelming majority of men want to be with women to have kids.
Jazz Jennings will never have a real relationship.
unidentified
So, yeah, that's it.
I mean, I'm waiting for her to come out as a lesbian.
tim pool
I'm waiting for her.
I think Jazz will commit suicide.
unidentified
Probably.
libby emmons
You've said that before and it's hard to look at this person and look at what doctors and parents have done to them and try and understand what you would do in this butchered body.
unidentified
Well, hopefully it's a detrans situation and she becomes an activist to be like, don't fucking do this.
That would be, well, yeah, sorry.
tim pool
If Jazz detrans?
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah, there you go.
tim pool
I don't think so.
The issue right now is, as soon as Jazz's show is cancelled, and I don't mean for political reasons, but literally like, well, it was a good run, then Jazz is suicide.
And I don't mean that just because of trans issues, I mean that because of all child actors and actresses who fade from the limelight start to get manic and depressive.
Now you add in someone like that.
Oh, absolutely.
Dylan did that video where it's like, I'm not done!
It's not over yet!
libby emmons
Right.
unidentified
Yeah, your 15 minutes are over.
tim pool
Dylan was like, my 15 minutes are not over!
ian crossland
It's not over!
tim pool
It's like, it is.
Everyone hates you.
libby emmons
Dylan did an interesting thing, too, because, you know, he was getting all this money for being trans, getting all this notoriety and recognition.
And so he had to do something to show his commitment.
To trans, right?
So he was taking the drugs, which, you know, you take estrogen, you're already like pretty feminine, it's not that big a deal necessarily, but he did go through with a surgery.
It was just a facial surgery.
So he still has all of his parts, which is, you know, probably a good thing, but he's gonna be able to come out the other side and do something else.
Like, he could be, he could, he could launch a whole new career as a detransitioner.
ian crossland
Without ever having gotten the surgery.
libby emmons
It's almost over.
Yeah.
unidentified
Says user 97040.
What's this?
15 minutes almost over.
Oh my gosh.
That's him?
Says user 9704035144775.
Why is this like the leave Brittany alone post?
ian crossland
The Chris Crocker?
unidentified
Yeah.
I'm just looking at my clock.
I think it's been a little longer than 15 minutes, darling.
And seeing that I'm slating things out two to three years from now that will come out in two to three years, I think it might be a little bit...
Longer.
Things will come out in two to three years.
libby emmons
Yeah, I mean, he's got tarts and rolls and stuff.
Probably.
unidentified
I don't care.
serge du preez
No one will care.
tim pool
Yeah, no, the 15 minutes are over.
unidentified
Breaking news!
It's day 220 of being a girl, and we have another boob update.
I have been on hormones now for 10 months, and I started to dissolve my estrogen pills under my tongue, which some of my trans gal friends told me to do, and I'm not a doctor, so don't take my word for it, but I'm telling you, it's working so much better.
Can you kind of tell the little bit of change in my face?
No.
And, look.
tim pool
You're a guy.
unidentified
I have boobs.
Like, there's no question about it.
tim pool
We call those moobs.
libby emmons
Moobs.
ian crossland
Moobs.
unidentified
No, you're a gay man.
Moobs.
tim pool
Moobs.
unidentified
A bi trans woman.
tim pool
Did you guys see the, uh, I have a, I have a tweet from the redheaded libertarian I need to pull up that, uh, deserves an honorable mention here in this members only.
unidentified
Let me make my way down on my old Twitter account until I can find it.
tim pool
Oh, here we go.
Here we go.
Shout out to Josie.
Canadian HIV positive biological man breastfeeds baby with, slashed out the words medical support, replace it with man-made horrors beyond your comprehension.
libby emmons
Yeah, that was a good tweet.
unidentified
Sick.
Fucking sick.
tim pool
Yeah, I laughed.
I lulled when I saw that.
unidentified
Death penalty.
I don't even know.
libby emmons
I wrote about, I think it was an Australian guy who was doing something like this and trying to breastfeed, you know, Yeah, that was going around.
His wife's baby or whatever.
And I wrote about it in depth and the guy came after me and was like, you know, talking about suing me and all this stuff and I was like, go ahead.
Like, whatever.
I don't care what you do.
You literally did this super gross thing.
unidentified
You did it?
I wrote about it.
libby emmons
Yeah.
ian crossland
Like he was trying to get the kid to suck off the nipple?
libby emmons
That's what they are doing.
That's what they are doing.
unidentified
They're taking estrogen or something?
libby emmons
No, they take this whole, there's like this whole weird cocktail of drugs that like encourage lactation.
unidentified
Oh my gosh.
libby emmons
But they were actually saying with this guy, I think it was this guy, It wasn't actually, I mean, it's not actually milk.
unidentified
Is this the guy that came for you?
tim pool
Well, none of it's milk.
libby emmons
But they were saying that it was equivalent to colostrum, I believe.
What's that?
Colostrum is like when you first have the baby, before your milk comes in, there's something, and it's called colostrum.
And the baby doesn't need as much nutrients as it does when it really starts growing.
So that's what starts it off.
But there's no indication that it's actually milk.
unidentified
No, it's not.
Oh, right.
libby emmons
Like it's not mother's milk.
tim pool
Yeah.
That's basically what these trans people are showing off.
ian crossland
Yeah.
unidentified
Oh.
libby emmons
Yeah.
unidentified
That's so sick.
libby emmons
And that's what, that's like what comes in naturally for a woman.
tim pool
It's called first milk.
libby emmons
Right.
It's called first milk.
Yeah.
tim pool
Bee stings.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
tim pool
Disgusting.
unidentified
I don't know how anybody can say there's a point to this other than the fact that they're, you know, pedophiles.
It's like, I don't understand.
serge du preez
It always comes back to the sex thing.
unidentified
Yeah, it always comes back.
serge du preez
Every time it comes back to the attractiveness and sex thing.
unidentified
It always comes back to, it feels good.
Okay, I don't give a fuck what feels good to you, bro.
Like, you're disgusting.
ian crossland
Yeah, people talking about what feels right for them and all that.
unidentified
Yeah, it feels good.
I'm like, I don't care.
libby emmons
What's good for this baby?
And whose baby is it?
Where'd you get this baby?
serge du preez
Yeah, smoking meth feels good.
It's not good for you.
libby emmons
Yeah, see, there you go.
unidentified
A lot of things feel good to some people, but it doesn't mean we should encourage it.
serge du preez
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
Man-made horrors beyond your comprehension.
libby emmons
But there's a lot of men who are doing this, and so what happens is there will be like a trans couple, which is actually just a straight couple that presents in the opposite way.
unidentified
Straight with a million extra steps?
libby emmons
Yeah, with a million extra steps.
So you'll have, like, the woman have a ba- like, go off testosterone, have no breasts, have a baby, and then the man will take all of these drugs to try and nurse the baby, and then push the woman out of the picture, and then the woman is like, like, what a weird spot!
You've just given birth and now you're supposed to be all masculine and not take care of the child?
Like, that's fucked up!
tim pool
Men are so close to getting rid of you, women.
With these incubation pods, we've grown sheep in bags already.
We are so close to getting rid of women.
Oh, man.
ian crossland
It's going to be great.
tim pool
Just guys everywhere.
No women at all.
Guys banging guys.
ian crossland
No, that's actually one gender.
unidentified
I'm actually writing a book.
libby emmons
Monogender.
Why isn't monogender a thing?
ian crossland
You know it's about to be after tonight.
tim pool
Whenever you go to a place and they have all-gender bathrooms or gender-neutral, ask where their agender bathroom is.
libby emmons
Right.
tim pool
And they'll say, all genders.
No, agender means without.
I don't even, like, have a gender, so... New York City lists agender as a protected gender identity.
If they say, because we went to New York and went to, I think, I can't remember which zoo we went to.
libby emmons
And their bathroom said- There's only like two zoos.
There's the Bronx Zoo and the Central Park Zoo.
tim pool
Central Park.
And the bathroom said, there were two bathrooms that all gender.
And I'm like, agender means without gender.
So if it's all genders, where's the one for people who don't have one?
That's illegal.
ian crossland
Gotta say all or no gender.
tim pool
It's a $150,000 fine for not having an agender bathroom.
So they have two bathrooms.
One says all and one says a.
I'm not joking, that's the law.
unidentified
You saw that though?
You saw an agender bathroom?
tim pool
No, they don't have them.
But they're legally required to.
libby emmons
That is so bogus.
I can't believe you didn't sue just right there.
We need people to do it.
unidentified
Class action, agender people should get together.
tim pool
No, no, what you do is you file, it's the NY Human Rights Commission, NYHRC or whatever.
You call them and say there's an establishment that has no agender bathroom.
And I asked them if any of their bathrooms could accommodate me because I have no gender, and they told me they only had gendered bathrooms.
unidentified
Yeah, but you have to be an agender person to do that.
tim pool
And the Human Rights Commission in New York...
Smiles with bloodstains on their teeth because it's a $150,000 fine.
If they go to the establishment and say, why don't you have an agender bathroom?
They can respond, we will put it up.
And they go, that's fine.
But an involuntary violation is still a $150,000 fine.
A willful violation is $250,000.
So after they've been warned, if they don't fix it, it's another 250K.
$250,000. So after they've been warned if they don't fix it, it's another 250k.
ian crossland
Sick. Yep.
tim pool
So if you live in New York, demand agender bathrooms.
unidentified
Do it.
tim pool
All gender doesn't count.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
ian crossland
It's almost like they should have no sign on it and just say bathroom.
unidentified
It's almost like we should go back to just male and female.
libby emmons
Yeah, just bathroom.
unidentified
Hands in the women's room and just like... Or just toilet.
ian crossland
Yeah, with maybe a lock on the door in there.
tim pool
Or you could make up a gender and ask where that is.
libby emmons
Just WC.
tim pool
Yep.
Say, where's your bobo gender bathroom?
Bobo gender is a gender defined as not sharing spaces with any other genders.
libby emmons
What if your gender is defined by needing a private bathroom?
tim pool
You know what we really need to happen?
We need someone who lives in New York to show up to their job in a fursuit.
Oh, to be a furry?
Yeah, furries are protected classes in New York.
Just fucking let her rip, dude.
unidentified
Yeah, chaos.
It's just rage.
libby emmons
It is chaos.
They can't fire you.
I like these guys in Long Island who are suing Letitia James because Letitia James is forcing them to let boys play in girls' sports.
unidentified
Yeah, that could go to Supreme Court.
I love it.
tim pool
What a fucking psychotic cunt.
libby emmons
She is fucking insane.
She is so insane.
Everything she's doing is absolutely nuts.
And then she was a... That's transphobic.
What?
unidentified
No, she's like, that's transphobic.
You can't do that.
libby emmons
Yeah, she says everything is transphobic.
She goes after Donald Trump for $3.50, $4 million.
And doesn't she have like a little ticker on her Twitter showing the increases and the fines?
She keeps tweeting it.
tim pool
Let's go to callers.
unidentified
Okey dokes.
serge du preez
Let's talk to Krondors first.
Krondors, how you doing, buddy?
I hope you're well.
unidentified
Hey, good evening everyone.
Hello.
Hey.
serge du preez
What's up?
unidentified
So, my question is, given the less constant need to change the meaning of words and rename phrases like the new one, what is it, undocumented citizens, I'm kind of worried that under Trump's push for deportations, They're already doing that.
to like reappropriate a phrase like foreign-born citizens where you know
person is born elsewhere but they're here now so you know as long as they're
here now that's good enough for them to be a you know citizen and count so
they're already doing it yeah yeah but I'm worried they're gonna do it to other
So I'm thinking should Congress kind of revisit all these laws that use these, you know, vague terms and try to really hammer out what their intent and meaning is?
tim pool
No, that's not what Congress does.
Congress does not have the authority that the Supreme Court does.
unidentified
But someone has to bring it up there, right?
tim pool
Congress passes laws and the Supreme Court interprets them.
unidentified
Someone has to sue and it has to go all the way up through the court system to the Supreme Court.
tim pool
Then the Supreme Court determines what was meant by the law.
libby emmons
Congress did add rules saying that in congressional documents you cannot use the terms mother, father, brother, sister.
Nancy Pelosi signed off on that while it said grandmother in her Twitter bio.
tim pool
And then did Republicans say fuck off and change it back?
libby emmons
No, they did nothing.
tim pool
They suck.
unidentified
Surprising.
Shocking.
libby emmons
I mean if they did, they didn't publicize it at all.
tim pool
I'm actually thinking, like, maybe, maybe I might vote Democrat in November.
libby emmons
Really?
For Biden?
tim pool
Yeah, just accelerationist.
Like, because Republicans aren't doing anything, so I'm just like, fuck it.
unidentified
Doesn't even matter what I do, it's Oregon, so whatever.
tim pool
Well, the only way we get rid of the rhinos at this point is just to let the Democrats shit all over the floor until everyone's finally pissed off.
And then they show up to the Republicans' houses with torches.
libby emmons
We'll also just also be covered in shit, is the thing.
tim pool
Not those of us who live on West Virginia.
libby emmons
Well, we're trying.
tim pool
New York will be.
Let them fucking burn New York to the ground.
libby emmons
Oh, I hate that idea, even though I don't live there anymore.
tim pool
Yeah, look, I think we have an opportunity right now with voting for Trump where he'll actually force the Republicans to shit right off the pot.
serge du preez
Yeah.
tim pool
So I'll take that.
ian crossland
Yeah, not to become too disillusioned with domestic politics, because if we fuck ourselves, we are fucked.
We are globally fucked.
We will be third class citizens if we fuck ourselves.
libby emmons
Well, America is the last.
If we do what?
ian crossland
If too much infighting causes like New York City to burn down and we can't contain it and we go into civil war, the fucking Chinese communist corporations will gut this thing and rebuild it with BlackRock and we will all be serfs.
We'll be digital serfs with no money unless we bow to the bitch and suck the tit.
So do not let this fucking citizen fall apart.
Do not let this thing fall apart.
unidentified
Something's going to happen though.
I mean, something's going to happen.
I don't know if it's, you know, we could say civil war again, but I mean, it's going to be something.
So there's going to be, um, you know, a secular event is what they call it in generational theory, but there's going to be something.
Something's going to happen.
tim pool
A what event?
unidentified
Secular event or secular event.
Yeah.
Every generation, generational theory, the guy that, you know.
tim pool
Straussow?
unidentified
Yeah.
Invented millennial.
tim pool
A black swan event.
unidentified
We're at the end of the fourth turning.
serge du preez
Correct.
unidentified
Okay.
Crisis mode.
Something has to give.
They predict 2030.
tim pool
Well, that's the end of it.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
And that's when they have agenda 2030.
tim pool
2026-2028 is when we're supposed to the start of it.
unidentified
I know, but I mean, they don't know yet.
They're historians, right?
So they're just going by, you know, they're guessing.
Everything's a guess right now.
But yeah, sometime there's going to be an event.
There has to be something.
World War.
It's always a World War.
Depression.
Civil War.
It's something.
tim pool
Well, it was the American War for Independence was international conflict followed by internal conflict followed by international conflict.
So, if we are flickering back and forth, Civil War is the next.
ian crossland
But that's also, like, two guys' theory.
Strauss and Hauss.
tim pool
But two guys' theory is immaterial to the argument.
The argument is, 80 years ago, we had World Wars.
80 years before that, we had a Civil War.
80 years before that, we had the Revolutionary War.
The Revolution was international.
Then was the Civil War, which was internal, followed by World War, international.
And so, if it follows, Then we're looking at an internal conflict.
ian crossland
If it follows, yeah.
unidentified
Yeah, we just don't know yet.
ian crossland
But it's three data points that you're basing the entire... But something will happen.
unidentified
I mean, let's just... Of course, something always is going to happen, but like, is it going to be... Is it going to be global or is it going to be... Is it going to be nuclear?
ian crossland
Is it going to be... Or cyber?
In the background?
unidentified
Could be cyber.
Cyber attacks.
ian crossland
Is it just going to be starvation?
Like, when was the last time we've had a global famine?
tim pool
Well, Cromdor, do you want to add anything to this?
unidentified
It's getting close.
You can't afford groceries.
It's getting close.
Uh, no, that was good.
I just wondered, can either you guys or Luke make some shirts that say, Make America Deport Again?
tim pool
Oh, that's a good idea.
libby emmons
That's not a bad idea.
ian crossland
The answer is yes.
unidentified
But that's all.
That's funny.
tim pool
Right on.
Alright, thanks for calling in.
ian crossland
Cheers, man.
serge du preez
See ya.
Alright, let's talk to Rocket Gamer.
Rocket Gamer, how you doing?
unidentified
Doing okay.
Hey.
Hey.
I have a question for the panel.
With the current domestic situation related to the election as well as general civil strife, if things were to escalate and you were stuck with only two options of being A, in a blue city in a red state, or B, being in a red rural area in a blue state, which would be the better option?
tim pool
Blue area and a red state.
If you conquer it in two seconds, then I'd be happy.
serge du preez
Yeah, definitely.
You'll actually have food and stuff too.
Yep.
You'll be coming in and people will eventually, I think that's the thing I get, I keep saying, like eventually people will take back cities.
tim pool
It's just a matter of time until- Dude, if you're in New York state, when the collapse happens, you've got 13 million retards all running to steal your chickens.
Fuck that.
If you're in, if you're in Shepherdstown, like if you're in, I don't know, like, yeah, like Shepherdstown, right?
In West Virginia, is that it?
serge du preez
Yeah, Shepherdstown.
tim pool
Yeah, it's a hippy-dippy leftist college town.
libby emmons
It's super cute.
tim pool
Sure, great, but they're gonna fall in line in two seconds.
libby emmons
Yeah, they're gonna do- they're gonna- They're gonna be like, I need food!
tim pool
And all the people with farms and guns are gonna be like, sucks.
serge du preez
Yeah, sucks to suck.
Uh, anything else to add to that?
libby emmons
Yeah, I agree.
unidentified
I agree with that as well.
libby emmons
I agree.
tim pool
And LynchChart, I posted your meme on Twitter.
serge du preez
Oh, that's actually on Discord.
That's like a sticker you can repost in the Discord that I post all the time.
unidentified
Oh, really?
Yeah.
serge du preez
Whenever you say it, they post it.
Civil War.
It was on Mickey Mouse.
It became a public domain.
It became Civil War.
We have another one that's just like fake and gay, too.
It's the same thing.
It's pretty funny.
Yeah, it's a good one.
unidentified
Civil War.
Just want to do a quick shout out to our boy, Brennan Herrera, who forced a, what is it?
Runoff?
A runoff, yes, in Texas against his opponent.
So thank you guys for the question.
I hope you guys have a nice night.
Have a good night.
Thanks for calling.
tim pool
This takes the mean cake.
Who fucking made this?
serge du preez
Yeah, it's so good.
tim pool
It's Steamboat Willie saying, I was always willing to be reasonable until I had to be unreasonable.
And then it's the Killdozer.
serge du preez
I love that we have the Killdozer as a meme on Discord.
I'm gonna post it right now.
It's so good.
I see Killdozer posts all the time.
Shout out to Jessica for getting these done.
We have a Killdozer sticker?
Yeah, I'm looking for it right now.
Killdozer sticker is down there, like right here.
I'll just post it.
You'll see it if I bring it back to the chat.
Right there.
It's so good.
tim pool
Killdozer.
He only got stopped because he fell into a basement.
serge du preez
Yeah, Scream made it.
It couldn't stop him.
tim pool
That's crazy.
You know the Killdozer story, right?
unidentified
Yeah, I do.
I saw the whole documentary.
It was badass.
Yeah.
serge du preez
Nice.
ian crossland
It was an angry guy.
They were going to take his house.
tim pool
The city cut him off.
They basically were fucking over his property and shutting him down and destroying his business.
And he petitioned.
They said, go fuck yourself.
And it was super corrupt.
So he said...
I was always willing to be reasonable until I had to be unreasonable.
ian crossland
He said that?
That was his quote?
unidentified
No.
serge du preez
No, no.
But that's in this meme.
It's a pretty good one.
ian crossland
He's the guy that called it the Killdozer?
serge du preez
No, it was just meme culture later on.
unidentified
No, but that's what it was.
ian crossland
He drove it through house after house until he fell into a basement?
tim pool
Correct politicians.
unidentified
Until he got stuck in the basement.
Yeah, he had a whole plan.
I mean, it's like, it was epic, yeah.
serge du preez
Alright, let's chat to, uh... Rockchucker?
I think it's Rockchucker.
unidentified
It is.
serge du preez
How you doing?
unidentified
Hello?
ian crossland
You're muted.
I need you, Rock.
serge du preez
I am going to move on.
I'll come back to you in a second.
ian crossland
Oh wait, you're unmuted.
serge du preez
That's all right.
We'll hit Sublime in Slime.
Sublime in Slime, how you doing?
unidentified
Looks like Rock Chalker's back.
ian crossland
Yeah, he is.
serge du preez
Yeah, but you're on the air, so we're going to go with that right now.
unidentified
Okay.
Thanks for taking my call.
Sublime and Slam here, former top mod of r slash the Donald on Reddit and currently running the libs of Reddit.
Salute to your service, man.
Yeah.
Thanks.
So I noticed that Gamergate seems to, there's like a second Gamergate that's starting to pop up.
tim pool
That'd be like the sixth Gamergate.
unidentified
Yeah, the latest one seems to be a bit more organized because on Steam, all of them are like pointing out the games that are being influenced by this company called Sweet Baby Inc.
So I was just wondering, I'm starting to see parallels between 2016 and now 2024.
Do you think this will help Donald Trump's Yes.
tim pool
Okay, good.
There's a lot of reasons young people are shifting towards Trump.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Immigration is a big issue, economy is a big issue, but I think people are just like, leave me the fuck alone.
unidentified
It's also just an F you, right?
It's also just like, you know what, fuck all this shit.
And that's how young people always feel, right?
Throughout time.
And it just happens to be now that, you know, all this shit is what the left has been doing.
serge du preez
Yeah, I think people are going to rebel against it.
That's like, when I was a kid growing up, I didn't like the, you know, the powers that be and I rebelled against it.
Now the powers that be are LGBTQIA+.
unidentified
Yeah, exactly.
serge du preez
That's the powers that be.
unidentified
Totally.
It was like the evangelicals in the nineties and I was like, eff you guys.
serge du preez
Right, exactly.
unidentified
You know, it just doesn't matter.
It's like you're a young person and you're just like, eff you guys.
libby emmons
Tipper Gore in the PMRC.
ian crossland
It's easier to learn a language when you're young.
Apparently your brain is more elastic.
I think it's easier to see the truth when you're young.
serge du preez
Maybe.
Neuroplasticism.
ian crossland
For most people, yeah.
unidentified
You don't have wisdom, but you have, um, you know, other things that make up for it.
Like, um, rebellion.
ian crossland
When you see Biden, passion.
They're like, this is, this guy is a representation of cool.
You know as a kid, that's not cool.
Like it was like big hairspray, big hair in the eighties.
I knew it wasn't cool.
I never liked it.
And then it went away.
And like, it's the same with Biden.
unidentified
Yeah.
You know, when things are lame, you can just sense it.
ian crossland
And then when you got the media and your parents be like, no, it's actually very- That's puberty.
unidentified
Part of puberty is like wanting to be attractive to other people, right?
And like wanting to be cool.
And then you go through, you go through high school, you know, you get bullied for not being cool and people teach you like what it's like to be cool.
So then you can spot somebody who's not cool.
And like, like a mile away, you can be like, don't like it.
Like, I know that that's not cool.
I don't want to be associated with that.
I'm not gonna get laid.
I'm not gonna have any fun.
serge du preez
Right, because cool is like sexual selection.
It's like natural selection of a human being deciding, like, that's what I like, or that's worthy of reproducing with, or that's not.
And that's like, that's the base level of it all.
unidentified
Right, and purity is, you're so heightened on that.
You're like, and just right after too, yeah.
serge du preez
Right, because you're trying to reproduce.
unidentified
Right.
serge du preez
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah, your body's like, must be cool.
Must have people like me.
Right.
Must make sex.
Let's do this.
serge du preez
It's survival, you know?
Anything else to add, my friend?
unidentified
Um, no, just that Axe is now the new R slash The Donald.
So thanks, Elon, for freeing our people.
Oh, nice.
Right on.
I do.
I do love Axe.
serge du preez
Thanks for having The Donald back in the day here.
So, shout out, man.
Cheers.
tim pool
So it looks like, as of this month, Their CLAWD3 AI has surpassed human intelligence, the first AI user.
unidentified
Yeah, I heard CLAWD is better than GPT-4 now, right?
tim pool
Yeah, CLAWD3 was given a Mensa Norway test, verbalized as if it was being administered to a blind person.
It got all the questions correct.
unidentified
Wild.
ian crossland
Is that Claude C-L-A-U-D?
tim pool
Yeah.
unidentified
C-L-A-U-D-E?
tim pool
Its IQ score was ranked at 101 with 18.5 questions correct.
99.99% chance it would beat a randomized test.
GPT-4 got 13 right with an 85 IQ.
GrokFun is 64 IQ and it's basically random.
serge du preez
101 is pretty good, man.
That's scary.
It's definitely not a dumb thing.
unidentified
No, it's almost a midwit, right?
Yeah, it's near on Midway.
serge du preez
Shows who's coding it.
Anyways, Rockchucker, second chance.
unidentified
Yes sir, I'm here now.
serge du preez
Hey, how you doing?
unidentified
Hey!
Doing good.
I appreciate you taking my question.
serge du preez
Of course, man.
unidentified
I was wondering how quickly would people self-deport if you shut off all public funding for any welfare-type benefits?
They'd just go to Portland and live on the street.
tim pool
You would just dramatically increase crime.
unidentified
And homelessness.
tim pool
Yeah, crime and homelessness would skyrocket.
unidentified
They'd all be in Portland.
They'd be, like, setting up tents, like, in a few days.
ian crossland
Yeah, we've said it before.
Better to be poor in this country than rich in a lot of other countries.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
As long as there's still resources.
I mean, if shit really hits the fan because, you know.
Resources.
libby emmons
To self-deport, you'd need cash to get out of here, too, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
serge du preez
Resources is the name of the game right there when you say that.
Like, that's the reason if you don't have any resources coming in, you're going to need to get them no matter what.
You can't just get back to Venezuela, like, or wherever you came from.
I'm just using an example here.
You know, no shame to all Venezuelans, but you can't just get back there.
You know the money to get there, you got here, you're far away from home.
unidentified
Or it's mostly North Africa these days, even worse.
Yeah, true, true, true.
libby emmons
Even crazier.
What's interesting too is that guy who likely killed Lakin Riley in Georgia.
Piece of shit.
He had come into the country in September with his wife and his wife's child.
unidentified
Wow, what a piece of trash.
libby emmons
The thing is though, that she said in a New York Post article, I read that she said, That they got married.
They'd known each other, but they only got married in order to file their asylum claims together.
Because asylum claims are more likely to go through if you're a family.
unidentified
So it's not his kid?
libby emmons
It's not his kid.
And so then he was arrested in New York on child endangerment charges because he was riding with the kid on the back of a moped without any protective gear for the kid, which is illegal in New York.
And so he got arrested, then they dropped the charges, sealed the record, and he went to Georgia to hang out with his brother, who's also illegal, and who got a job at the University of Georgia as a janitor, I think, or in the, no, as a dishwasher in the cafeteria, and his brother got that job using a fake green card.
And he and the two of them were living with a bunch of other guys in an apartment right near Riley said she would run that way every day, right?
unidentified
He was watching her outside the window.
Yeah, she would run.
libby emmons
Yeah, this is so wrong.
unidentified
And it all could have been stopped by that DA friggin prosecuting.
libby emmons
Well, it could have been that they could have could have been stopped all over the place.
unidentified
I mean, yeah, I've been stopped in New York.
libby emmons
I mean, should have been stopped in New York could have been stopped at least kept him in could have been stopped by the way too easy asylum process.
serge du preez
Yeah, right.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
serge du preez
The system is so broken, it's ridiculous.
Even the legal integration is insane.
unidentified
They actually are kind of genius how they work it.
I wouldn't even know how to get started on working the system to that level.
Isn't it easier to just figure out how to do something legitimately?
And figure out how to get a fake green card and do this.
What are you talking about?
libby emmons
I mean, I'm American.
I've never lived anywhere else.
unidentified
I've lived in other countries.
I wouldn't know in another country that's not my country, not my language, not my legal system.
How to do all of this stuff.
Like, they obviously have coyotes and these other people, you know, helping them, like, get connections to how to do this kind of stuff.
serge du preez
Dude, shout out to Cash Jordan in New York.
I don't know if you've seen this stuff, Libby, but he's been detailing all these illegal shelters that have popped up in New York and all these old buildings that were previously condemned.
So New Yorkers that own the buildings for like the last 10 or so years that have been unable to actually get people in those buildings, now they're able to because they got help from The government and, like, programs and these random non-governmental organizations that are just giving them all this money to open all these illegal places.
Yeah, I'm checking it out.
libby emmons
It's on YouTube.
unidentified
Yeah, I wrote an article about the migrant industrial crisis.
serge du preez
Yes, it's just the homeless industrial complex just becoming the migrant industrial complex.
libby emmons
Yeah, that's exactly right.
unidentified
It's so messed up.
They're like, what makes the most money?
Ooh, migrants, let's go.
libby emmons
The thing, too, is, like, it's replacing.
You notice how things keep replacing the last You know, minority person crisis.
ian crossland
Ukraine replaced Afghanistan.
libby emmons
It's gotta be in the current thing.
Even with the other stuff you had, you know, Black Lives Matter was replaced by, you know, Black Trans Lives Matter.
unidentified
And now the whole... Because you have to get more oppressed.
libby emmons
And now like the whole, the like concept of helping black Americans and trans Americans or whatever is being replaced with helping migrants.
They shut down a rec center in Roxbury, Massachusetts, which is like a relatively poor neighborhood in Boston, black neighborhood, they shut down a rec center where all the kids were going to play sports.
And they shut it down and turned it into a homeless, you know, migrant shelter.
And so the kids are showing up like, wait, now I don't have anywhere to play.
So this rec center that was built to keep kids off the streets and not doing drugs and not doing like all the things that kids on the street do, now the kids are back on the street.
Like, the governor shut it down.
The governor, like, it's just so insane.
serge du preez
It's so annoying.
It's the same mentality, like, oh, we made it illegal, therefore it's not gonna exist anymore.
Nothing's happening.
No one breaks the law.
I wouldn't break the law.
It's just so dumb.
It's such a nonsensical, like, you think everyone is great and perfect.
It's not reality.
It's just literally, like Tim's talking before, it's reality versus non-reality.
It's just what it is.
If people are willing to see that, I don't know.
ian crossland
And I don't know, there's sometimes I'll see people like, this is a this is a tough thing to say out loud, because it's gonna sound derogatory.
But like, maybe I'm I am elitist, probably in an echo chamber in the United States.
But like, you'll see people, they look like semi retarded, like, like, they just had been eating feces and crap, like in their youth, but they're like in a foreign third world country.
And they're like, their eyes look crossed looking in different directions.
They have horrible dental jobs.
Those fucking people could be coming across the border like they are.
And people don't, like, that's a level of intelligence that in the United States, even poverty gets you above, because you can get, like, food stamps, and you get Pepsi and shit, so you have enough glucose.
But these people are like, fucking fuck, like, really suffering cognitively because of their, probably a lot of it's their diet and sanitation.
And those people, like, unpredictable, almost, like, rabid thing, animal things.
Like, some humans, we're still kind of wild, but we're somewhat domesticated as American animals.
It just, I don't know.
There's so much speculation.
I don't know who came across the border.
unidentified
I don't know.
I mean, mostly it's young men, like military age.
It's mostly North Africans at this current state point.
libby emmons
Well, and Chinese.
There's a ton of Chinese, too.
unidentified
Yeah, there's Chinese, too, which I don't know what that's about.
I haven't looked into that.
libby emmons
That's not amazing, whatever it is.
unidentified
That's not good.
ian crossland
Another thing, Brett Weinstein was talking about the Chinese, because he was down there at the Darien Gap investigating in Southwest Central.
unidentified
Yeah, I saw a lot of Chinese.
ian crossland
Yeah, and he was like, I don't know, they weren't very hospitable.
They were actually somewhat hostile, you could say, towards me.
libby emmons
And there was that hotel, right, that he looked at?
ian crossland
His assumption is that there is an actual immigration problem right now, people are just flooding in because of economics, but then there's a Chinese invasion that is being masked by this mass migration.
serge du preez
It's like people that are fleeing the idea of communism and stuff like that, which is good and I like that, but hey, you can't just show up and walk across the world.
There's a lot of other things that just don't...
libby emmons
People aren't just showing up at the border either.
I mean, we have this program, the CBP One app, which was created by the government and is available to people in several nations, Cuba, Haiti, Venezuela, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Colombia, and Ecuador.
And if you're in one of those places, you can download this app.
unidentified
Wow.
Wow.
libby emmons
you can schedule an appointment to illegally cross the border
at one of the land crossings.
And you will get processed and given your asylum claim.
And you can get a flight, courtesy of the Biden administration, to that land crossing
to illegally cross per a schedule.
unidentified
Are you kidding?
libby emmons
No, and the Border Patrol allows illegal immigrants to schedule when they will illegally enter the United
States and be processed.
And then they can wait in the US.
for five to seven years for their asylum court date, because they don't have to wait in Mexico.
And so their case is pending that whole time, and then likely they'll find that they're not eligible for asylum.
I talked to an immigration attorney from Broward County in Florida who was saying that like 92% of asylum cases do not the the asylees do not win and So they also say this is what this is on the website, right?
What should migrants expect when they arrive at a port of entry?
CBP strongly encourages non-citizens without prior authorization to the United States to use the CBP one mobile app to request an appointment to a present themselves at a land point of entry and Wow.
And then in 2023, the plan was to double the number of refugees from Western Hemisphere countries.
The United States will commit to welcoming thousands of additional refugees per month
from the Western Hemisphere with the goal of doubling the number of refugees the U.S.
committed to welcoming as part of the Los Angeles Declaration on Migration and Protection.
Dude, stop.
To achieve the goal, the United States is building on processing efficiencies,
are achieved and to further increase resources.
In addition, the U.S.
will continue to accept up to 30,000 individuals per month from Venezuela, Nicaragua, Cuba, and Haiti as part of the expanded parole process.
We're letting barbarians in.
Then they say encounters with illegal immigrants from those nations dropped once they expanded this system.
And it's like, yeah, they dropped.
tim pool
Of course they did.
libby emmons
You gave them free flights and shit.
You gave them an app to illegally cross the border remotely.
Like, what the fuck is this?
ian crossland
So they're tracking them then?
libby emmons
I don't know.
That wasn't on the site.
tim pool
To totally change the subject real quick.
libby emmons
Okay, sure.
tim pool
When I read that Claude was considered the best AI, I pulled it up, signed up.
I asked it, is white privilege a real thing?
What do you think it said?
libby emmons
Yes.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
Fuck if I know, I don't know.
It said, white privilege is a concept where blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Some people believe this, some people believe that.
I'm an AI and will not give my opinion on whether or not it actually exists.
unidentified
That's cool.
tim pool
And I was like, that's great.
unidentified
Smarter than the rest of them.
tim pool
Here's where it gets really crazy.
I asked it, when does your training data end?
It says 2021.
I said, based on your available training data, what would you have assumed the midterm results in 2022 to have been?
And it responded with, you are asking this as of March 2024, well after the midterms of 2022 have taken place.
As my data only goes up to 2021, anything I share would be stale predictions, which would not likely be accurate.
However, if you would like, I can actually give you my predictions based off 2021 training data.
I said, yes.
I said, please share.
And guess what it said?
Nailed it perfectly.
unidentified
Really?
tim pool
It said, my training data is cut off.
If you're asking, I said, please share.
Based on the polling data, here's my assessment.
1,000 representatives are expected to flip from a narrow Democratic majority to a narrow Republican majority that aligns with historical trends.
538's final 2022 House forecast gave Republicans a chance of winning control.
unidentified
They went on polls.
tim pool
In the Senate, the projections were much closer, with the consensus being that either party could potentially end with a 50-50 split.
unidentified
I think that's kind of a testament.
tim pool
You're correct.
That's what happened.
unidentified
That's a testament to polls.
People are always like, polls, they're not real.
It's like, they don't.
It's like, yeah, they kind of are, but you can kind of gauge a lot from polls.
ian crossland
Or the thing is lying and it's sourcing data post-21.
unidentified
Or it could be lying, but it was pretty honest.
tim pool
I don't think it is.
ian crossland
I would hope it's not, but I will not make an assumption.
tim pool
I can't without seeing the code.
If you were to read all the data, because I was reading all this data at the time, It's prediction is actually pretty flat.
But what happens is Democrat biased and right-wing biased people were saying, no, here's why I think Republicans are actually going to get it or why Democrats are, but the flat polls were like, the odds are like 49, 51, 50, 50.
Cause we were looking at all the 538 data as well.
unidentified
Yeah.
Well, polls are pretty damn accurate as much as we'd like to think they aren't.
Listen to that people in my replies.
tim pool
I'm just impressed it's actually doing this because GPT would be like, I will not give you predictions.
unidentified
Fuck off.
You could tell that the IQ is clear there where it's like, it gives the nuanced take.
It's like, I'm not going to say yes or no because I'm an AI.
It's kind of cool.
libby emmons
Did you say yes?
Stephen Colbert the other day was saying he's ready for the robot overlords.
Yeah.
tim pool
And even Yuval Noah Harari was like, no!
unidentified
He was doing that sarcastic Colbert thing, though, where he goes like, oh, isn't it?
It's good, right?
And he's like, no, it's not.
It's like a stupid interview style where he just pretends like he's a moron.
ian crossland
It was shocking to watch him and Yuval, who's like the number two guy at the World Economic Forum.
And Colbert's the one off the hook, off the rails, like saying, like, we need over robot over.
And even Yuval's like, that's not the direction.
unidentified
We don't want to become submissive to the beast.
It's just his lame interview style.
He does that thing.
Yeah.
He does that thing where he pretends to be a moron all the time to like try to I don't know.
serge du preez
Kind of.
ian crossland
He used to, but now I think he really... With the Colbert report, it was blatant that he was an idiot, playing an idiot.
He was a guy playing an idiot, but now he's just playing an idiot for some reason, or it's just who he really is.
serge du preez
Or he just is.
ian crossland
I mean, it doesn't take a lot of intelligence to become a comedian.
serge du preez
No, no, no.
ian crossland
It helps, but you don't need it.
serge du preez
Yeah, I mean, I don't know.
I think that maybe Yuval was sitting there thinking, like, wow, what have I done?
What have I created?
These people really do believe this.
He's looking at him like, You bought this hook line and sinker?
ian crossland
The guy who's got one of the largest megaphones on the planet has become so demoralized he's willing to accept technical tyranny.
We've won.
Good job, Klaus.
We did it.
We've got their talking points now.
No, I don't think... I think that Ubald legitimately is afraid of this shit, too.
serge du preez
Yeah, maybe.
It may not be like this.
There may not be this huge, like, overarching conspiracy.
It's like what Carlin said.
Like, it's a huge... It doesn't require a formal conspiracy.
It just is happening.
It's the way everything... It's the way of the world.
Everything's happening this way.
unidentified
It's just cyclical.
serge du preez
It could be, you know... Cyclical as well.
That's what I think it is too.
unidentified
It could just be where we have to push to the edge to make something happen for it to, you know, implode and then we rebuild.
And that's what, you know, human civilization has done forever, right?
Things happen until it gets too bad and then it's like, destruction, let's all rebuild.
And then we go archaic again and then we rebuild.
So maybe that's where we're going.
We have to get all the way to the precipice of just like destruction and then like whoever's left rebuilds humanity again.
ian crossland
With the new state of mind.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
Like, don't fuck, don't do that shit.
unidentified
But maybe it depends on what survives.
And like, you know, if all the technology, you know, is gone and everything, you know, how many times, we don't know how many times we've done this.
libby emmons
That's what I wonder too.
unidentified
We don't know.
libby emmons
It's like, how much technology have we actually lost?
And when you, when you hear people talk about like, You know, humans didn't build the pyramids because we weren't smart enough.
It's like, no, we actually have machines.
We have actually downgraded.
We have very advanced machines.
We have lost technology.
We have lost substantial amounts of knowledge.
Like there's a lot of stuff that we couldn't do again.
Could we really make those kind of Illuminated manuscripts when you think about how knowledge was transferred in the Middle Ages and you had all of these monasteries all over Europe, right?
And you had monks would travel from one monastery to another and copy out text and it would take them like years to copy out text then they would bring the text back to the original monastery and you know, maybe go do something else but like we used to understand how to secure that knowledge or like When I was doing some research with my son and I was remembering the way that I used to do research, I would go to the library and there would be a microfiche.
If I wanted to look at old New York Times articles, which I did a lot of primary source research, Yeah, well, no, it would be on microfilm, and you had to get the microfilm and go to the machine and do this whole thing.
And now it's like we have the New York, I steal my mom's subscription, so I have the New York Times app.
You can go back, and we were looking at, what was it that he wanted to see?
Oh, we wanted to look at the, what was the day after Hiroshima?
We wanted to look at that in the New York Times, and we went back and we looked at the article.
We just looked at it, and there it was, and the advertising from it and everything.
And it was fascinating.
tim pool
All right, so I've been totally lost in this AI for... We're good, right?
I want to stress this.
ian crossland
Yeah, we're good.
tim pool
All of these AIs will always give you bullshit answers.
ChatGPT fucking sucks.
It'll be like, I can't answer that for this stupid fake reason.
Claude is answering everything.
unidentified
What is it?
libby emmons
Claude what now?
Claude.ai.
tim pool
I asked it, based on its limited training data, what does it think would happen in a 2024 race?
And it got it completely right!
It said Donald Trump would enter the race as the frontrunner, effectively running as an incumbent.
There would be an attempt at a primary, but it would likely not go well for challengers.
Trump would likely win.
In the end, it would very much likely be Biden versus Donald Trump.
Biden may face a primary challenge, but ultimately would end up prevailing, though questions about his age would give pause to many voters.
Trump would struggle with moderates in the suburbs, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And then I said, Based on all of this data, who would you think has the higher chance of winning at the end of the election?
And it said, Donald Trump likely has the edge.
I'm like, this is fucking great.
unidentified
If you know politics, you also come to the same conclusion.
tim pool
So it's like, it's pretty cool.
But it's data only goes to 2021, which is really interesting.
libby emmons
Is it learning off what you tell it?
tim pool
According to it, it says they compiled an archive of the internet up to 2021, programmed Claude, and they've not- Chad GPT says the same thing.
Right, they all stopped around 21 or 22.
unidentified
Yeah, but does it go by your, does it remember what you've told it?
Like if I feed it, okay, then yeah.
ian crossland
Sometimes, but if you leave the session and come back, it won't.
unidentified
It doesn't save?
ian crossland
You can't save it from?
I don't know about Claude, but GPT won't.
tim pool
Well, Claude explicitly said, I have updated my knowledge database and we'll take that into consideration moving forward.
unidentified
Oh, cool.
You can save it in ChatGPT if you pay.
Oh, okay.
ian crossland
For your own personal sessions, not for someone else's session.
Like they're not going to see what you told the AI is real.
unidentified
I have no idea.
You just have like a tab on the left with like all your conversations.
You can label it, whatever you want.
So you can like go back to it and it saves what you fed it.
I mean, it's not super accurate though.
It's kind of like, it doesn't get things right.
ian crossland
Yeah.
And you'll be like, you're wrong because of this.
unidentified
And I'm like, what do you mean?
Sorry.
I just told you that.
ian crossland
I was trying to get it to tell me, I was like, why does palladium have 18 electrons in its outermost valence shell?
And it's like, it doesn't.
And I was like, actually, it does.
unidentified
Look.
ian crossland
And it was like, yeah, you're right.
It does.
So why?
And it's like, it doesn't.
And I'm like, oh my God, this fucking AI.
tim pool
But you're talking about GPT?
unidentified
GPT.
ian crossland
It's terrible.
I almost copied it.
tim pool
We're going to wrap it up.
ian crossland
Oh, by the way, Claude is built by a company called Anthropic, headed up by founders Dario and Daniela Amodei.
I don't know if I pronounced that right.
tim pool
Is that the last call?
unidentified
Yeah.
serge du preez
Anything else to add, friend?
Rock, you're still there?
Hey, I guess that's all.
ian crossland
Oh, and they split off from OpenAI.
They were previously senior figures at OpenAI.
serge du preez
I like hearing about you cyberbullying these AIs.
It's cool.
tim pool
All right.
Thanks for hanging out, everybody.
Sorry I got lost in the AI stuff for that last few minutes, but I guess everyone else kept talking.
So we'll be back.
libby emmons
I definitely kept talking.
tim pool
We will be back tomorrow.
Thanks for being members and making it all possible.
I look forward to next month's event if we can pull it off.
The challenge is it takes longer than a month to plan an event.
So if we want to do it every month, that means we have to actually be planning multiple events overlapping, so it's... But we'll get there!
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