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Jan. 10, 2024 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool

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Timcast IRL - Ray Epps WINS, Gets NO JAIL TIME, Trump Team Argues Immunity Appeal w/Trent Staggs

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tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'd like to give a congratulations to Mr. Ray Epps on avoiding jail time, despite privately
		saying he orchestrated January 6th and being seen on camera numerous times advocating people
		enter the building, which is of course inciting an insurrection by Democrat standards.
		And then, of course, I'd like to give an honorable mention to Enrique Tarrio for beating the record of Ray Epps by getting 20-plus years in prison despite not even being in D.C.
		So of course, the internet is rife with individuals accusing Ray Epps of being a Fed, because it makes quite no sense that of all the people that have been charged, some 1,700, many of them have received jail time, and some of them did literally nothing, like walking around.
		Ray Epps actually was at the front line where they breached the barricade.
		He was telling people to enter the Capitol premeditated, And he admitted on camera he knew that doing so was a crime he would be arrested for.
		He gets no jail time, no travel restrictions, a $500 fine, $100 community service.
		Oh boy!
		Donald Trump was in court today.
		His legal team was arguing he's immune unless impeached and convicted.
		And what's really got all the Democrats quite angry is that his legal team argued, and I would say correctly, that a president could assassinate a political rival and they cannot be criminally charged unless they are impeached and convicted, which makes absolute sense.
		Of course, the judge just kept saying, you mean this could happen?
		And the lawyer kept saying, yes, but any reasonable Congress is going to impeach a president who does that.
		If a president is gauged in official duties, you can't criminally charge him for it, unless Congress deems it to be high crimes and misdemeanors, and the Senate confirms through conviction.
		And then, of course, ladies and gentlemen, the story that everybody really wants to talk about, but, you know, we're a serious show here.
		Secret Jewish tunnels.
		Yeah, there's a video of a Jewish man climbing out of the sidewalk in New York City, and there's a video.
		And my favorite tweet is, imagine witnessing this happening but not having your phone, and then trying to explain to people that a Jewish man climbed out of the sidewalk from a secret tunnel underground without sounding like an anti-Semite.
		So this happened.
		The police showed up.
		They tried filling in these secret tunnels.
		Apparently, some of these young Jewish men started fighting with the police.
		And a dozen or so got arrested.
		Everybody is wondering, what the is going on there?
		So we'll talk about that, plus a whole lot more.
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		We've got a flight right after this show to Iowa so that we can host a podcast slash town hall event with Vivek Ramaswamy.
		Now I must stress, inclement weather has us worried.
		We are being told that the flights may be shut down, completely out of our control.
		But I told them we will make this happen.
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		Joining us tonight to talk about this and everything else is Mayor Trent Staggs!
unidentified		Great to be with you.
unidentified		Thanks for having me.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Who are you?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What do you do besides being a mayor, I guess?
unidentified		Well, I've been in Utah now in elected office for 10 years and I'm running for United States Senate.
		I have quite a business background to help take a company public in the energy space and I have my wife Alicia and I have two fantastic kids.
		And just proud to be running.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right on.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What city are you the mayor of?
unidentified		I'm the mayor of Riverton, which is just south of Salt Lake City, probably about 20 minutes south there.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Man, talk about a beautiful place.
unidentified		It is.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I remember the first time I drove through, just the mountains on either side, indescribable.
unidentified		It really is.
		I mean, when you go away to somewhere really flat, like, say, Texas or somewhere else, and you come dropping in, and you see how tall and majestic those mountains are, it's just, wow.
		Every time I come back.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Go to, like, Chicago and the suburbs.
		The Great Plains.
		It's all flat.
		Nothing but sky and buildings.
		And then you take a vacation, you know, someone like me, you drive through Utah, and you're just, it's amazing.
unidentified		Yeah.
		Other areas think they have mountains.
		We really have mountains.
		Utah and skiing, of course, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right on.
		Well, thanks for hanging out.
		It should be fun.
		We got Seamus Coghlan.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		My name is Seamus Coghlan.
		I have a YouTube channel called Freedom Tunes.
		We do animated political cartoons.
		We upload at least once a week, so I want to ask you all to go over there, subscribe, check that out.
		It's a lot of fun, and I'm excited to be back on the show.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		How you doing, everybody?
		My name is Phil Labonte.
		I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains, a very failed musician, anti-communist, counter-revolutionary.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		And, uh, I am Serge.
		I am a Utah man.
		Utah man I am.
		And, uh, yeah.
		I'm, uh, excited to have you here, sir.
		Thank you very much.
		And, uh, let's get into it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's go.
		Our first story from the Washington Examiner.
		Ray Epps gets no jail time, sentenced to one year probation.
		A man widely accused by former President Donald Trump supporters of covertly working on behalf of the FBI during the January 6th Capitol riot was sentenced Tuesday to a year of probation for his actions that day.
		Ray Epps, 62, pleaded guilty last fall to one misdemeanor for disorderly conduct in a restricted area.
		The DOJ had asked that Epps get six months in prison, a relatively harsh sentence for that charge.
		While Epps argued that probation and restitution were appropriate penalties, he received restitution of $500.
		So here's the big issue, and we'll just keep it real simple for y'all.
		He's the one guy, on camera, orchestrating, and I mean that literally, telling people to go into the Capitol.
		If there is any orchestrating that is documented, it is that.
		You take a look at the Proud Boys and O'Keepers or whatever, and it's like vague, we're gonna go, who knows what's gonna happen, there's no real plan.
		It's even admitted in these official statements that they don't really have a plan.
		Enrique Tarrio was not in Washington, D.C.
		on that day.
		They sentenced him to 20 years.
		Ray Epps not only was there, but was advocating for people to go in, is on camera saying he knows he'll be arrested for inciting this.
		He says, I don't want to say it because I'll get arrested, but I'll say it.
		And they say, say it.
		And then he tells people to go in the Capitol.
		And then there's a video of him at the front barricade when it's first breached, whispering into a man's ear.
		And then they breach the barricades, storm the Capitol grounds.
		And this guy gets probation.
		We have so many stories of people like Brandon Strzok, for instance.
		Never went in the building.
		Prison.
		How about Owen Schroyer?
		Did not go in the building.
		Prison.
		Many people are rightly wondering why it is this man, Ray Apps, is not getting any jail time, but more importantly, why he has been defended by the corporate press.
		Here's my conspiracy theory.
		He's actually, just as you, everything is perfectly straightforward, and the corporate press is defending him.
		That's the real conspiracy.
		He actually is some bumbling Trump supporter who advocated them going to the Capitol and the DOJ is like, let's go real easy on him and get our buddies in the press to defend him so it makes everybody think he's the bad guy.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, it's a very interesting situation and the way that it's framed is very telling.
		So this article and many of the other articles you'll read is Ray Epps who right-wingers and conservatives and conspiracy theorists allege was involved with the federal government in some capacity or Needs to be punished more harshly than he's being punished, rather than Ray Epps, who whispered in the ear of the first person who broke down a barricade, or Ray Epps, who was inciting the riot a day before and telling people they should enter the Capitol and who was then called a fed.
		But they never point out what actually happened.
		But they never point out what the evidence shows.
		They always point out this is what right-wingers think.
		This is what conservatives think.
		This is what conspiracy theorists think, not this is what happened.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right, and the very, very important thing about these videos is Ray Epps saying that he knows he will be arrested for what he is about to say, and then he says it.
		He knows what he is saying is incitement to illegal activities.
		And they avoided charging this guy for a very long time.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
		And their argument was he never set foot in the building.
		But like you said, Brandon Straka and Owen Schreier are both people who never entered the building either, and yet they were charged and they were in prison.
		And Brandon Straka, who we actually had on the show, had to plea down from like 20 years or something like that.
		They were trying to lock him up in federal prison for a very long time.
unidentified		And he never entered the building.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		They lied about the evidence too.
		They lied about the evidence.
		They said that he was Egging people on and telling them to go into the building when it's not clear that he actually was because you can't see him on camera and according to him it's someone off camera yelling it.
		We actually have footage of Ray Epps telling people to go in and whispering in someone's ear and he gets six months probation when they were trying to charge Brandon Strzoka and lock him up for 20 years?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		This is the most blackpilling situation I think that's going on in the United States right now.
		The way that the people that were At the Capitol on the 6th are being treated the way that the government has really set the conditions so that it's clearly favoring people and clearly going out of its way to essentially prosecute people for things that are protected under the Constitution.
		And it's blatant.
		And the real disheartening thing is not that the government is doing it, or people in the government would do it, because they're all garbage anyways.
		It's that there are so many Americans that support it.
		And this goes back to the fact that America is going through In my opinion, America, and a lot of other people too, America is currently going through a cultural revolution like they did, like they had in China.
		And what that means is the fundamental principles that our country is founded on.
		And I'm not talking about religion or any of that kind of stuff.
		I'm talking about simple, basic things like you are innocent until proven guilty.
		Those things are literally being ignored currently.
		In regard to January 6th, in regard to Donald Trump, in regard to also any number of federal and state cases that have been brought against people that have the wrong politics.
		People in other countries can see this.
		People in other countries clearly see this.
		Whatever your opinion on Donald Trump, when you have people like Glenn Greenwald, who is no Trump fan and is no right-winger, Can clearly see this and then you can have people like that are as silly as Alex Jones can see this and they're both saying the same things and the only people that don't see this are the actual establishment.
		I mean, it's the only people that that if you pay attention if you are paying attention to what's going on it is difficult to for me to believe that you are being honest if you can't see that there is political persecution.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		And I'm glad that you pointed out that this is very reminiscent of the Cultural Revolution.
		What we're seeing is a kind of Neo-Maoism, where they accuse people of being enemies of the state or the establishment, needing of ostracization or even imprisonment on the basis of their political values.
		And it's also ranked based on...
		Their ethnic background, their immigrant status, whether they're conservative or not, right?
		What Mao did is he created a series of privileged classes, and then he told the people, you have to go after the privileged classes and to be labeled as a member of one of these privileged classes.
		Mao's Cultural Revolution was basically a death sentence or a sentence to be imprisoned, but let me just be perfectly clear.
		That is where this kind of thing ends.
		You don't start singling out ethnic groups and political groups and start saying that they're evil and need to be ostracized and removed from society and just have that stop.
		Like there's either a backlash and it stops happening or it ends up getting violent and they try to harm people.
		And we already see they're trying to lock people up on the basis of their political values.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yes, and to your point about the identity stuff, Mao had red and black identities.
		If you were a communist, you had a red identity, and they used those identities to turn children against their parents.
		If your parents owned a shop, or owned property, or owned anything, or you were just looked at unfavorably, you believed you were not a communist or whatever, you had a black Mark on your family.
		And the children would go to school and they didn't want to have black marks.
		They wanted to have red identities.
		They wanted to be good communists.
		They wanted to get along with their friends.
		They didn't want to be weird.
		It was all peer pressure, which is what we're seeing now.
		All of that stuff.
		All of these things are reminiscent of Mao's Cultural Revolution.
		It's happening currently in the United States because actual Marxism, economic Marxism, vulgar Marxism does not work.
		So they're trying to use a racial vector.
		All of the talk about race that you're seeing now, and everyone agrees there's constantly talk about race, that is just a vector of attack.
		And it's all because it's a Maoist cultural revolution going on in the U.S.
unidentified		It's crazy to me that you have not just that concept, like you said, that's been turned on its head, innocent until proven guilty.
		It's that equal justice under the law, right?
		That is the application.
		That is what is foundational to our country.
		And you're not seeing that.
		You've got this two-tiered justice system that's going on.
		I see it ever since running for U.S.
		Senate.
		You know, I'm trying to replace Mitt Romney here and going around and talking to so many Utahns.
		I've talked to many that actually were there on January 6th and it blew me away to listen to the story of one woman in particular who was there with her son-in-law.
		They had two different judges, right?
		She unfortunately got the harsher judge and for just walking around 30 days in a federal penitentiary.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		In the building?
unidentified		In the building.
		All she did was walk around.
		For, I don't know, just maybe 15 minutes max, and did 30 days in a federal penitentiary in Washington State, and she said, I'm the only one I know of that's done time for a misdemeanor.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		More time than Ray Epps?
unidentified		More time than Ray Epps, that's right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is what's amazing is that a large portion of the convictions in the January 6th cases are people who showed up after the fact, and there's no barricades, they'd have been ripped down.
		The doors had been opened by police.
		Joe Scarborough of MSNBC on January 7th, CNN reports, he said, you opened the effing doors for them.
		So there are people who don't know what's going on.
		The Capitol is normally open, unrestricted.
		The police opened the doors and even fanned some in.
		They go to prison.
		This is crazy what's happening in this country.
		And when you look at what's going on the southern border, I gotta be honest, man, Look, I don't think all hope is lost.
		I certainly think we have been winning, and there's a lot of people who don't want to accept it, but we've got tremendous cultural victories.
		I mean, the fact that Dave Chappelle can say the jokes that he can say to mass applause from a DC audience shows we are winning this culture war.
		But of course, When you back an animal into a corner, they will lash out violently.
		And as the establishment machine begins to lose power, they are going to act irrationally and violently, and that's what we are now seeing.
		We are seeing people who are just bumbling, you know, tourists in D.C.
		who went to see a speech, walked around, and go to prison.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		It's horribly depressing, and as mentioned earlier, this all ties into whether or not you are a member of one of the favored identity groups.
		Look, big, bad, scary, white person, insurrectionist, right-winger inside of the Capitol, well that person is going to do prison time, right?
		Or they're going to be more likely to.
		They're certainly going to be frowned upon in the media.
		That's why people are asking, why is nothing happening to this Ray Epps guy?
		Because he is every single thing and he's a member of every identity group that we're constantly told we're supposed to hate.
		This is an older guy who seems to be working class, who's a white conservative male, who is inciting A riot and was inciting a quote-unquote insurrection and he only gets probation?
		Now don't sit here and try to tell me that that's his white privilege kicking in and people not wanting to prosecute him and the system not handling him because he's a white guy or because conservatives are actually secretly privileged and we're getting this wrong because other conservative-leaning people who are more politically active have gotten in far more trouble in this instance for far less.
		The reality is there is information that's being withheld for us on his involvement and that's all I'll say.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		He did more to incite violence and incite the riots and stuff than Donald Trump did.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I think without question.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Without question.
		I would be remiss if I did not end this segment on January 6th by pointing out the facts of the case that January 6th was An inside job was adjudicated as an inside job and is, as a matter of fact, based on CNN's reporting, January 6th was an inside job.
		But don't take my word for it!
		First, let me give you the definition of inside job from the Oxford Dictionary.
		Inside job is defined as a crime committed by or with the assistance of a person living or working on the premises where it occurred.
		Notice they say committed by or with the assistance of.
		Inside job is a fairly broad term.
		It means that someone inside Allowed or helped or assisted in this happening.
		Of course, then we have this story from CNN.
		Man who said January 6th was magical acquitted in US Capitol riot case.
		A federal judge found Matthew Martin not guilty of four federal misdemeanors.
		Four!
		Related to trespassing.
		Martin had successfully argued that a U.S.
		Capitol officer waved him into the building.
		At least one video played during the trial appeared to show an officer moving his arm in a waving motion.
		That is to say, CNN has confirmed a video exists of an officer waving at Matthew Martin.
		For which Matthew Martin interpreted as being waved into the building.
		And that a judge agreed that the police officer appeared to be waving him into the building.
		By all means, CNN, you are allowed to argue that he was waving at police officers, but that's not the point.
		With the assistance of a Capitol police officer, this man entered the building.
		But don't take my word for it!
		Why don't you?
		Oh, do I not?
		I'm sorry.
		I've made a terrible mistake.
		I did not pull up the Joe Scarborough article.
		I pulled up the Vagrant.
		Sorry, silly me.
		Joe Scarborough lambasted Capitol Police.
		You opened the effing doors for them.
		CNN reports.
		And that's it.
		Without refuting.
		They report Joe Scarborough saying outright.
		They politely opening the door for terrorists who had scrawled on the door, murder the media, he added.
		Joe Scarborough's argument is that these people were violent terrorists and the police opened the doors politely for them.
		Why?
		Let me just get a show of hands.
		How many of you would view that as assistance?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		That's assistance.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		One, two, three.
		That is everyone in the room raising their hand that police politely opening the door for what Joe Scarborough calls terrorists as assisting them.
		I don't see why police would politely open the door, according to Joe Scarborough.
		So according to MSNBC and CNN, there is adjudicated, a judge said, cop waved this guy in, so it appears.
		Well, that sounds like it's reasonable to say it was an inside job.
		So when they claim Vivek Ramaswamy was wrong, That it was an inside job?
		Vivek said it appeared to be.
unidentified		Why?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Certainly based on CNN's own reporting, it does appear to be an inside job.
		But I would say, considering we know the police did open the doors, took selfies with people, so much so that MSNBC got very angry about it, and CNN even reported on both instances, inside job is beyond confirmed in every conceivable way.
		Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.
		But I suppose now we can jump to the next story in the January 6th case.
		This is from the Daily Mail.
		Judge asks Trump lawyer if President would be immune from prosecution for using SEAL Team 6 to assassinate a political rival in explosive courtroom showdown.
		This is a really, really great story and it's a very important story for all of you.
		This is an excellent way to help people understand that these issues in law are nuanced and the headline does not accurately portray what is being, uh, the information being conveyed.
		First, let me start by shocking all of you by saying it is a fact and it is true.
		In this argument, it makes absolute sense, and it is reasonable and rational to argue, if the president ordered the assassination of his political rival, you could not prosecute him.
		Unless he has been impeached and convicted already.
		That's the statement.
		The judges tried to make it seem like it was some egregious and shocking thing that such an argument would be made, but it does make sense.
		Because there actually is an official argument for an official course of action in which a president or politician would assassinate their rival.
		I'll give you a simple explanation.
		President A learns through the Senate Intelligence Committee or the House Intelligence Committee or whatever, Foreign Affairs, top-secret information that a political rival of his has been making deals with a foreign adversary and is going to be meeting with them in a foreign country to deliver top-secret nuclear code information from the United States.
		Unfortunately, they discovered this much too late, and they need to put a stop to it.
		The president goes to a federal judge, who reviews the evidence, their arguments are made, and a warrant is issued.
		The president then orders this man must be stopped by any means necessary.
		After this political rival is caught in the act of selling state secrets, an act of treason, when US forces try to apprehend and arrest him, he resists and draws a weapon and is killed by the president's forces.
		The assassination of a political rival.
		Now perhaps you can argue that they mean like just taking him out.
		In that instance, as I described it, there would be no impeachment.
		Congress would say, no, we were the ones that delivered the intelligence that this man had betrayed his country, and a judge signed off on the warrant for his apprehension and or execution for treason.
		In which case, you could not prosecute the president for taking this action, as no one in Congress would believe a crime had been committed.
		Now, if Donald Trump or any president just straight up killed their political rival for political power, instantly in Congress, they would be impeached and convicted, and then they could be criminally charged.
		The important thing to understand here is that were this to not be the case, as Democrats are arguing, This could mean that states or elements of the federal government could criminally charge a president whenever they feel like it, before, during, or after they're even in office, if they feel threatened by him, and the founding fathers were concerned this would disrupt the political process.
		A man announces he's going to run for office, so what happens?
		A rival political actor in government decides, I'll criminally charge him so that he can't win, and that's exactly where we are.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no.
		It's interesting, right?
		Because it's really a question of process, as you mentioned.
		So saying something like he would have to be impeached first is like saying he would have to be arrested first.
		It's just part of the process.
		It doesn't mean it's something he's allowed to do.
		It means that we actually have a process laid out for how that's taken care of.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This seems like there is a process here.
		Trump's lawyers have made a completely sound argument that I believe is correct.
		You can't accuse a president of committing crime.
		So in this instance we're talking about Trump investigating voter fraud.
		It's actually the duty of the executive branch to investigate voter fraud should there be any.
		But because there's a conflict of interest and that it was Trump's election, they're arguing it was a criminal activity.
		Well, I believe it is correct.
		Trump should be... There should be an investigation as a conflict of interest.
		The determination was he was impeached and then he was acquitted.
		How could you criminally charge someone who's been acquitted for this very thing?
		They're going after him.
		Why?
		The arguments to the Supreme Court are the point of the Democrat process.
		create or so they're in a federal a federal appeals court right now and making these arguments
		on immunity and the Supreme Court is going to hear Trump's case on the ballot issue.
		But right now if these judges come out and say the president is not immune then we are
		inching towards absolute dictatorship and the collapse of the republic.
unidentified		Yeah, that's a pretty great takedown.
		Great analysis right there, because you're right.
		There is a process, there's a procedure that we have to go through.
		I mean, he has to be impeached, he has to be convicted in the Senate.
		That hasn't happened here, and that is the argument exactly that some attorneys are making, is that they have a presidential immunity, that it is there for the reasons that you've cited.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This case they're bringing against him is the offense.
		The offense is not to criminally charge Trump, that's a byproduct.
		The offensive attack against our republic is this.
		For the judges to rule, presidents can be criminally charged.
		Then the next time, an America First candidate, let's say in eight years, Vivek Ramaswamy is the frontrunner.
		What will happen?
		Federal agents, to prevent him from winning, will file criminal charges against him.
		Let's say he actually gets elected.
		Let's say there's a backroom deal.
		And he goes to the establishment and says, look, there's a few things that I want to do for this country, but I agree to play ball with you on foreign policy.
		They say, okay.
		Then he gets elected and says, nope, I'm going to play things my way.
		They go, okay, you're under arrest.
		We're going to criminally charge you now.
		It doesn't matter who you are, if you're the president or not.
		It doesn't matter if the people want you elected.
		If the Democrats win the ability to criminally charge a sitting president, no election will ever matter ever again.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, I think that that does make sense.
		And I'm not, I mean, I don't have a whole lot of faith in most of the judges and judicial system that is trying Trump.
		I think that most of these, most of these cases should have been thrown out.
		I think the one in about the, what was it?
		Actually, no, I think maybe Georgia has something, but either way.
		So I don't have any faith that the judge will decide in a fair way.
		If you listen to these judges, you would come to the conclusion they will not judge in a fair way.
		Again, this goes back to my point of why I'm so blackmailed.
		I don't think that the justice system is treating any of this fairly.
		The people that are prosecuting tend to be Democrats, you know, the opposing party.
		I don't see how this is in any way fair, why the American people aren't saying, look, this is clearly political and making more noise about this.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Well yeah, I mean why would we expect a fair outcome when none of this is fair to begin with?
		The fact that he's even gone to trial.
		Donald Trump has been more investigated and he's had more charges brought up against him than any president in recent history.
		And are you going to sit here with a straight face and tell me he's been the most corrupt?
		That's ridiculous!
		More corrupt than George Bush?
		More corrupt than Bill Clinton?
		More corrupt than Barack Obama?
		It's complete insanity.
		We're in modern warfare.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We are absolutely watching the erosion of the Republic.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Did you guys see a couple days ago that Senator from New Hampshire said, quote, a democracy if you can keep it?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Embarrassing.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Embarrassing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Intentionally erasing history.
		Why?
		Here's what I try to explain to people.
		Democracy does not mean rule by majority.
		They think it does.
		Democracy means rule by the absolute slimmest of minorities.
		What people think a democracy will be, Ten people ask what's for lunch, and everyone votes.
		People think democracy means six people say we want pepperoni pizza?
		Congratulations, you got pepperoni pizza.
		I'll tell you what democracy is.
		At Occupy Wall Street, they needed a way to keep supplies dry.
		So, they used to have these things called General Assemblies, where the whole group of Occupy gets together, and then they'll, you know, petition everybody, and then raise their hands and wiggle their fingers if they like things.
		The idea was, hey, we got a bunch of clothes and supplies that are getting wet from the rain.
		We need plastic bins to store them so if it rains or snows, they will not be destroyed.
		Simple, right?
		Well, you'd think in a democracy, the average person assumes, you're going to get a yes or no vote.
		Right?
		That's not what happened.
		What happened was, everybody said, all in favor of buying the bins.
		The no's have it.
		Why?
		Well, plastic is bad for the environment.
		So we can't have plastic.
		Okay, well, what's the solution?
		There's no other material.
		We're not gonna get a glass one.
		You're not gonna get a wooden sealed basket with rubber or anything, right?
		Well, how about this?
		How about we get recycled, reused bins?
		So that way we're not contributing.
		Okay!
		Now we've got a proposal here.
		All in favor of recycled plastic bins.
		The no's have it.
		Why?
		Because was this sourced fair trade?
		Were the workers treated properly?
		I'm not kidding, this happened.
		Eventually what happens is, in a democracy, There is only a tiny percentage that actually wants the outcome, and the majority of people compromise with each other to create some wacky outcome that makes no sense.
		The end result was, the vote that won was recycled fair trade plastic bins that are bought off of Craigslist and you can't spend more than X amount.
		So what happened?
		Well, that's clearly impossible.
		So the people who had access to the money just went to, I believe they went to a department store and just bought standard plastic bins for 20 bucks and then brought them in there and then just said, sure, we did what we wanted.
		If everybody gets a vote on how to run something, you don't get a simple majority.
		You get this weird amalgamation of the desires of as many people as possible.
		And then the result is, How many people came out and filled out a form saying, I want this specific kind of plastic bin?
		Three out of a hundred?
		And that's who wins in the end.
		That's direct democracy.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Well, so this is actually something a good friend of mine pointed out.
		He said, like, if you ever tried to make dinner plans with multiple people, hell, It's really difficult, but you know what works out really well?
		When, like, you're a kid and you're in the car with your parents and your dad's like, here's where we're going for dinner.
		And then you just go there and you pick what you want off the menu, right?
		But where these things always end up is one person just making the decision anyway.
		So we're kind of fooling ourselves if we think we really have this process where everyone's actually coming together and getting what they want.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Dude, I got an idea!
		We should totally do it.
		So, Freedomistan, our new studio, is done.
		I should say, the new structure, the building's past inspection, it is done.
		All we're doing now is the actual technical build-up for the studio, and then we'll be there in a few weeks.
		Let's make a video where we give everyone ten options for dinner, dessert... Let's just do this.
		Let's just do dinner.
		We'll say, here's a list of meats, here's a list of carbs, here's a list of vegetables, vote for which one you like the most.
		Do you think you're going to get a delicious eggplant parmesan with fresh ricotta on top?
		No, you're going to get like a beef steak with a scoop of vanilla ice cream, espresso poured around it, some asparagus stalk sticking out of it, and you're going to be like, I am not eating this.
		But hey, that's what everyone voted for.
		Most people wanted beef.
		Most people wanted ice cream.
		Most people wanted asparagus.
		Most people wanted espresso.
		And then you're going to be like, welcome to democracy.
unidentified		Yeah, and it's been referred to as the tyranny of the minority, right, under that scenario.
		And there's been a concerted effort for decades now to take control of that word and to foist it up democracy.
		Let's save our democracy.
		I mean, I get so sick and tired of seeing this too.
		We're seeing democracy 2024.
		That's not what our country is.
		We're a constitutional republic.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's their country.
unidentified		That's right.
unidentified		And I've heard you say this before, where words really have meaning, and Democrats on the left are so good at co-opting that, and just putting that out there time and again.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		When they say our democracy, they're not including you.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		That's right, they really mean our.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's like, the way I've described it is, three guys break into your house, start destroying your living room, and when you walk in and say, get out of my house, one burglar looks at the other burglar and says, he's trying to kick us out of our house.
		Yeah, he's not calling it your house.
		He's not acting like you're a part of his plans.
unidentified		Mm-hmm.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		No, it's absolutely right.
		It's always so funny to me because for years and years what the left did and what they did within the popular culture is they made people laugh at these American buzzwords, right?
		So they said, oh, come on.
		Conservatives and right-wingers talk about freedom and freedom just the word became a punchline.
		Oh, it's freedom.
		Oh, it's America.
		And of course you say it in a southern accent because that's that's peak comedy.
		And now they'll go, our democracy, this is about our democracy, which is hilarious.
		They're just, they're like throwing around these like dime store patriotic terms without actually thinking about the ideas they're expressing.
		What do you mean by that?
		Like, why is this good for democracy?
		Why is it good for democracy to remove the front runner of the Republican primaries out of the process?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Because they're saying our democracy.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They're not saying democracy, they're saying our democracy.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I agree.
		That's my point.
		They're just throwing this around as a buzzword.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, no, no.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		The elite know what they're doing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Hold on, I'm arguing with you on this.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		You are incorrect.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I'm saying that I don't know how much we disagree because the elite are using it that way, but I think your average person who hears that and throws that around or thinks it sounds good doesn't detect it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		My point is...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They're saying the fact that Donald Trump could win is a threat to our plan.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yes, that's what the press is saying.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So there's a couple people that are running for the Democratic primary, and I forget the guy's name or whatever, but he tweeted out, me and Marianne Williamson are not insurrectionists, why are they blocking our primary?
		And I said, because you running in an election is a threat to their power structure.
		The quote-unquote democracy they have is not a democracy of the people.
		It's a democratic system of the elites where they get to decide.
		And if you actually ran against them, you would threaten their power structure.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		I'm not talking about that.
		I agree with you that they have a kind of oligarchy and they're trying to preserve their power.
		But when the reason they seize on to these words like democracy is because they know your average person who doesn't have time to research or think about these things hears that and goes like, oh, democracy, that's a good word.
		This is about democracy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think to a certain degree, but my point is that they're literally saying we are trying to build a new communist system that we would call, like North Korea calls their country the Democratic Republic of North Korea.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		People's Republic of China.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So they're saying our democracy is, they may as well be saying our communist dictatorship.
		They're saying this election, communist dictatorship is on the ballot.
		They call it democracy.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Because that's a nice word.
		He used good word.
		I like when he uses good word.
		When he uses good word, he's right, right?
		You're against good word?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I am against good word.
		This goes back to the point about Maoism, because that was something that Mao said.
		Communism, the idea of communism is pure democracy.
		He's not entirely wrong.
		And it will destroy the republic, which is the intent.
		It's frustrating when you talk to people that get their news from Jon Stewart or from Comedy Central and they believe all of the messages that are coming out of Comedy Central and that's really one of the most damaging things that's happened to the U.S.
		has been the ability of the daily show to just Feed people the most insane propaganda and have the most ridiculous framing of anything conservative and it's really been toxic because it's affected the way that people like you were saying about freedom and stuff the way that people perceive
		Things that are fundamental to the United States.
		And the left really has gotten to the point where they hate America, they hate liberalism.
		You talk to any leftist and they don't call themselves liberals, they call themselves progressives.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I like, Jimmy Kimmel wanted this really long rant about Aaron Rodgers, and it was the stupidest thing ever because he was like, calling someone a pedo isn't an opinion, and he threatened to sue Aaron Rodgers.
		But then he goes on to say he read about the Dunning-Kruger effect, where people are too stupid to realize they're stupid.
		He said ignorant.
		But I love this because he should have talked to his lawyer, because publicly stating that you believe the person who defamed you is too stupid to realize they defamed you is an affirmative defense for the person who defamed you under Times v. Sullivan.
		In which case, if he ever did sue, Aaron Rodgers could say, Jimmy Kimmel admitted it.
		I genuinely believed what I had said.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		And you know what?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Case dismissed.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		You know, Jimmy Kimmel also made a dig at him for going to community college, which is hysterical.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		How many of these leftists Complain about how expensive college is and about a horrible to student debt crisis is only to turn around and laugh at people who took Responsibility and said I'm gonna go somewhere less expensive They're gonna go somewhere where I won't rack up a lot of debt.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		None of them believe any of the things they're saying It's all about status.
		It's all about hierarchy.
		It's all about kissing their own butts.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I want to point out Aaron Rodgers never said Jimmy Kimmel was on the list He said Jimmy Kimmel is probably worried the list may come out And the interpretation by most people was that he was implying Kimmel was on the list.
		Maybe.
		Or, I stated this before the Epstein documents were released, and there's more coming out every day.
		Jimmy Kimmel came out and said, I've never met with Epstein, I never flew on his plane.
		Well, Aaron Rodgers didn't say that.
		But I actually think there's a very good reason that Jimmy Kimmel is sweating bullets over these documents.
		And that is, it has been reported that he was in business with, what's the guy's name, Andrew Perry Lang?
		He was in business with Epstein's Personal Chef, who owned a restaurant, I think it was called APL.
		Jimmy Kimmel was good friends with him.
		Jimmy Kimmel may be worried about the release of this, not because he's on the list.
		He could be peripherally mentioned, but because his good friend is on the list.
		So Aaron Rodgers said a very basic statement, which probably is true.
		Jimmy Kimmel has reason to be worried.
		And it's not just Perry Lang.
		It's many people in Hollywood who may appear on these lists who are friends with Jimmy Kimmel.
		So if those lists come out, and it turns out that a good friend of Jimmy Kimmel was deeply involved in what was going on with Epstein, and it's true, this guy was Epstein's personal chef, Jimmy Kimmel may be worried that could damage his brand or his net worth or something, even though he's not accused of being a pedo.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, look, if you're not willing to be friends with pedophiles, you're not going to have very many friends in Hollywood.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I know!
		You'd basically just be by yourself, hanging out, ostracized, and then you'd make a documentary where they'd call you all a liar, even though you're a victim.
		How about we jump to this story?
		Ladies and gentlemen, it's the moment you've all been waiting for.
		Newsweek says, secret tunnel under New York Synagogue sparks catechscenes.
		But I will not bury the lead, I will simply just play for you this video so you can all say, holy what the is going on.
		For those that are listening, the video depicts a Jewish man climbing out of a secret tunnel in the sidewalks of New York City, swatting at the camera, And then running away.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Looks like a skit.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And again, my favorite tweet from this is, uh, imagine seeing a Jewish man climb out of an underground tunnel on the New York sidewalk, not having your camera to film it, and trying to explain to your friends what you saw without sounding like an anti-Semite.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		It's already been a wild year, man.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		This is insane.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So the story is, there's a secret tunnel built under a New York synagogue, The police show up.
		Cement trucks come to fill in the tunnel.
		Soiled mattresses are pulled from this crevice.
		Young men then rip the walls down, this wood paneling, and break through the wall to try and occupy the space to stop.
		The construction crews from cementing it in.
		When the police show up, young Jewish men fight the police and a dozen are arrested.
		And now everyone is saying, what the is going on with secret Jewish tunnels in New York City?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		The Jews are hanging out with the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
		That would be the cool explanation.
		I have a friend that is a young Jewish man that lives on Long Island and he sent me some information about this.
		Apparently there is a sect of young Jewish men that are They're Israelis from a fringe sect of Judaism to come to the U.S.
		as teenagers to study with little to no supervision.
		They have no money, awful living conditions, and no regard for anyone or anything outside of their ridiculous beliefs that essentially amount to treating the Lubavitcher Rebbe, who passed away in the 90s, as a deity.
		They consider him to be the Messiah and refuse to acknowledge that he is no longer alive.
		The rumor is that they dug the tunnel so they'd have unrestricted access to the main synagogue here when it's closed, as it was for a bit during COVID.
		Um, the, I apparently the Rebbe used to give dollars out every Sunday along with other blessings.
		People would line up.
		So he was a, an icon in there.
		There are, there's a sect of Judaism that thinks he's the Messiah.
		And I, apparently they had a underground tunnel because they were fighting the man.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		So do you think that's what this is?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Look, when I, when I saw the police coming in and then these young men start fighting
		cops, I'm like, zealotry.
		Ideological zealotry.
		There's zero percent chance you save this tunnel once they've discovered it.
		The idea that a dozen young Jewish men could fight the police off and preserve this was insane.
		The only reason they would then do it is if their ideology was stronger than their logic.
		In their minds, they're thinking, I know we'll lose, but for this reason, we must fight to protect our secret tunnel.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think it's hilarious.
		I've got the guy that they're talking about that has passed away.
		His name is Menachem Mendel Schneerson.
		I swear to God, I'm not making this up.
		I'm going to copy the Wikipedia on the guy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I got it right here.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so... Menachem Mendel Schneerson.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So he's dead.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But they believe he was, what, a deity or something?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		This particular sect apparently believes that he is the Messiah, and he was well loved by people in the community, and I guess in According to Jews and stuff, but there are people... The leader of the Shabbat Lubavitch movement.
unidentified		How do the tunnels come into play here, though?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		They didn't want to be held down by the man.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		They wanted to be able to get to synagogue, man.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, this was because of the COVID lockdown.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's what people say, but it's years later now, right?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		They're still on lockdown, so why would people still be in tunnels?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I gotta be honest.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If young men built tunnels so they could go and worship their First Amendment right when the oppressive dictatorship of the state was trying to suppress their constitutional right, that's basic.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, 100%.
		Don't fight cops!
		Yeah, but what are they still doing down there?
		I guess if you have a cool tunnel, you still use the cool tunnel, but I don't know if that's the explanation.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		They are men.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		There's gotta be something else.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But there's a very interesting question to be had in this case.
		What we saw in New York with the shutting down of churches and synagogues was unconstitutional.
		Judges had ruled it unconstitutional.
		And Cuomo said, go ahead, I'll just make another executive order and shut these things down.
		The people who are committing the crimes were the police officers trying to stop people from expressing their First Amendment rights.
		The Constitution is the law of the land.
		In which case, These young men who built a tunnel to be able to go into the synagogue to worship, when they were being oppressed by the dictatorship, by the communist authorities, they were in the right.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yes, clearly.
		I mean, the lockdowns were the most clearly unconstitutional, especially in the context of people that wanted to go and practice their religion.
		I personally am not a believer, but it's protected in the Constitution, clearly.
		There's no...
		Ambiguity about you, you know, you have the right to assemble and you have the right to practice your religion.
		There's you know, I mean the country can't make the state can't make a laws regarding religion.
		So clearly they had no authority to do that and there's been there's been no, you know, nothing's happened since nobody lost their jobs.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No one got fired, you know, and let's let's let's segue this story about secret Jewish tunnels in the most likely and appropriate direction.
		Civil War.
		So, when, uh, we are now dealing with a question of, at what point... Let me put it this way.
		This show is always about being on the correct side of law.
		Don't break the law, you handle things appropriately, the cops come to stop you, you comply, and then you fight in court because fighting a cop on the street doesn't do anything for you.
		There are limits, however, and people ask this question.
		At what point must you defy a police officer?
		Well, obviously, if the police officer's committing a crime, you are not obeying the law by obeying a police officer who's committing a crime, right?
		Like, if a cop went and was robbing a bank, and then ordered you, under threat of law, to help fill his duffel bags, You should not do that!
		I mean, well, I'm not going to tell you what to do because it's threatening your life.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But if he says, if you don't do this, I'll arrest you, I'd be like, bro, you're the one committing the crime.
		I'm not going to do this.
		Herein lies the big challenge.
		We are dangerously close to this point, nay, we are already in it, where we are seeing police officers engage in illegal activity.
		We are seeing border patrol officers engage in illegal activity.
		And this, this issue of the tunnel under the synagogue brings up a really important question.
		Sooner or later, it will be impossible to answer what is the right side of the law.
		So, again, what we say is you see a video of a guy, and he's being stopped by the police, and he fights the cops, and the cops defend themselves, and the guy dies.
		And then everyone's like, oh, the cop's racist, and I'm like, dude, if a cop is stopping you, don't fist fight him.
		You keep your mouth shut.
		You put your hands behind your back.
		Then you get in touch with your lawyer, and you win in the system, which we have built to deal with these things.
		But what happens when the police are shutting down churches illegally and now the police are basically kidnapping and threatening you with violence without actual authority?
		The problem there is New York City government asserts the authority to do it.
		The Constitution says otherwise and the judges have said otherwise.
		How would we advocate?
		Would we tell you, no, these cops are committing crimes, you should ignore them?
		Then YouTube says, nope, the cops are always right.
		What's the stance that the broadcasters will take?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		You literally, honestly, in a real, if you're going to actually talk about this as a realistic situation, the cop's got a gun, you do what the cop says.
		The long and short of it.
		The guy with the gun is the one that you listen to.
		Get out of that situation, because you're not going to win a gunfight and the government's not going to say, okay, this is good.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, hold on, hold on.
		A guy shows up wearing a badge that says, the new Republic of New York, and he's got a gun.
		And he's wearing a uniform and he says, you now are under my jurisdiction, we assert authority here, do you listen to him?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		At that point, there's someone trying to force you to do something that is illegal, you have been kidnapped by that guy, and you get away from them, you escape if possible.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		My point here is that you're making the assumption that the person wearing the badge of New York City is operating under any kind of constitutional authority.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm making, by saying you should escape, I'm making the assumption that they're illegitimate.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The point here is, this is a point that I've made numerous times as it pertains to these stories.
		What happens if someone knocks on your door and you go, and there's a clown, in total clown garb, standing there?
		And you're like, who are you, what do you want?
		And he says, I am the clown bureau, and we are here to arrest you, we have a warrant.
		Would you actually listen to the clown bureau?
unidentified		No.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I mean, look, the ATF shows up at everybody's house every now and again.
unidentified		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The point is, you clearly recognize a man in a clown costume is no legal authority.
		That's absurd.
		What happens when a person shows up claiming to be law enforcement, but the view and the confidence in the system is thus that you look at it like a clown costume?
		Like, the easier way to explain it is a guy shows up wearing a badge, you're in California, and he has a New Californian Republic badge.
		Sheriff.
		And you're like, there's no such thing as the New California Republic.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		So you're essentially asking what happens when the government loses legitimacy with the average person.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		When the authorities do.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What happens when it's split and no one knows.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Fair enough.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So right now it's very simple to say if the police show up, you just, you adhere to the system, you get a lawyer, you fight it the best way possible, which is in the courts.
		But what if the police start killing people?
		What if a police officer, what if, I mean, let's just entertain this tunnel that they built, allegedly was so that they could keep going to church, to synagogue, when they were illegally barred from doing so.
		We saw in New York, the police were barricading parks, locking them up, and shutting down schools.
		They were spying on schools.
		There was one video where a guy's restaurant was closed, he had his door open because he was cleaning, and a health inspector came in and gave him a fine for being open.
		He goes, I'm not open, I'm closed.
		And they were like, your door's open.
		And he was like, what?
		If someone claims they have the authority of government and are violating the law, we cannot advocate that you adhere to a man who's breaking the law.
		That would be telling you to actually be party to lawbreakers.
		But we have seen police break the law, under color of law.
		We are at this point right now, since COVID, and the question more seriously is on the southern border.
		Federal law enforcement are assisting illegal immigration.
		They're committing crimes.
unidentified		This is why, I gotta say, this is why it's so important.
		Elections matter, elections have consequences, right?
		We have to have people in an executive role or in government that are representing us, that's supposed to be representing us, that are looking out for our... and this COVID example rings true in my own community, where I was a mayor and I said no.
		I said no to mask mandates, no to vaccine mandates, as one of the very few I had our county authorities call me and say, you need to be enforcing social distancing at your parks and your cops, your city cops.
		They need to be enforcing mask mandates and handing out fines.
		And I said, go pound sand.
		I mean, this is not, and that's what we need to do.
		We need to find people that have exhibited that type of courage and that backbone and support them in office.
		Otherwise we get what we have today.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I think that I, whereas I do think that the point you're making is, is correct.
		I think that it is.
		Far worse of a situation in that it's not about finding people that are running that's that have these policies or that are talking about these policies It's that can it's convincing the people that are voting that these are the correct policies.
		I think that the the There are people that say hey I would do this I would do that that that that are at least pointing in the right direction and I feel like the average person has been again talking what we were talking about earlier what I was mentioning earlier how Had the average person has been so so indoctrinated by the by Comedy Central's, you know It's a call on politics that they don't have any understanding of why the policies that they're hoping for Won't work at all that they don't have any understanding of history and and I think that that's the majority of our problem is the people that have the people that that are now in HR departments and in and work in government and stuff like that and and and leading
		In political positions in cities across America, they've all been taught that liberalism is not actually the system that we should be supporting.
		And so I think we need people, we need a society that values these things.
		And unless we have that, we can guarantee that they're going to vote for frivolous, ridiculous things that don't work.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I want to ask you a question about this, because one thing that we're constantly saying on this show, and one thing I think basically everyone in this sphere is saying non-stop, is that we need people to actually stand up for their values.
		It's great to have the right ideas, it's fantastic to know what's going on, but ultimately when push comes to shove, you have to be willing to stand up for them.
		So I'm curious, what inspired you to actually take a stand and say, we're not doing this mask mandate stuff?
		And when did you reach this conclusion?
		Because I could just say personally.
		When this all first started happening I want to say for the first like couple weeks I was a little nervous right and I thought maybe this is something and I will wear a mask but I want to say by the time we got to April or May I was really not with it anymore and then I just remember when The media was completely okay with BLM rioting, and when doctors literally signed a note saying that that was acceptable, I went, oh, it was just nonsense!
		But yeah, I'm curious, like, at what point did you come to this conclusion, and what inspired you to stick to your guns there?
		Because a lot of people weren't.
		A lot of elected leaders were not.
unidentified		No, no, and sadly, that's true.
		But I think just inherently, I knew that this was wrong.
		And right away, in about March of 2020, I went on and said quite vociferously that I was opposed to any mask mandates whatsoever.
		And then news came back around in May, I believe it was, of 2020, where I said yet again, look, I am not going to be utilizing my police department to enforce these things.
		I think it's heavy handed.
		This is not constitutional.
		And maintain that stance for, you know, for the entire time.
		It is.
		I think you're absolutely right though that we have unfortunately.
		It's not just certain media channels, but it's the it's the educational system that we have in this country where we have dumbed it down so bad and more than that.
		We're actually teaching people the wrong things.
		We have so few people that are I think economically and civically literate.
		Yep, and that's just unfortunate.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Or just literate.
		And I'm not just talking about low reading scores.
		What I'm saying is, with widespread literacy, it seems as if we became satisfied teaching people to be able to sound out letters and then know what the word was, without actually being able to truly comprehend the deeper message of what's being said.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is a typical argument against mass literacy programs that I've heard from I'm not against mass literacy programs, I just think, like, they're not real literacy programs.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		We're teaching people, like, how to sound words out.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		We're not actually teaching them how to really truly read.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There was this great article I read a long time ago, one of the things that played a factor in me not going to college, that argued that college is great for the people who've decided college is the path for them, in that you grow up building computers, and you want to go somewhere where you can learn to build computers better.
		You have the capability to build computers and you want to learn from the best.
		What we did then is we said everyone should go to college no matter what.
		The problem there is this article said something like you need an average IQ of about 110 to actually go to higher learning.
		That means you can read and not just memorize but actually comprehend the idea that is shown to you.
		And the problem now is by telling everyone to go to college, people of 100 IQ will easily memorize the literature but not actually understand what it means.
		What ends up happening then is after a few years they'll have this jumbled up confused concept which they think will make them smart.
		They think they're smarter than everybody.
		They actually have no idea what they're talking about.
		That I think is a good example of what's happening in this country.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		You see a lot of that also, you know, people will throw this stat around and they'll mention like, oh yeah, to graduate from college, like on average your IQ's gonna be around 110, 115, but I think that's outdated.
		I'm almost certain that's not the case anymore.
		No.
		I think the average college grad probably has an IQ of like 105, maybe 100 even.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, the average IQ is 100, that's the point.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		No, no, that's what I'm saying.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I don't think the average college grad is that far above average anymore.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, I agree.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I don't think they're 110, 115.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think the issue is often brought up, we have a lot of midwits in the political space.
		These are people who are slightly smarter than average, but not really smart enough to grasp these broader concepts.
		And so, you end up with... You know, an example would be when Elise Stefanik says, I will certify the elect—she's asked, will you commit to certifying the 2024 election?
		She says, yes, if it's constitutional.
		And then NBC, because these people are scumbags and they're evil, report Elise Stefanik refuses to commit to certifying the 2024 election.
		The midwit is the Democrat who then goes, whoa.
		They understand enough of politics, they read into it, but they're not smart enough to grasp how they're being manipulated.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		They don't have a minute to think like, well, wait a minute, when should somebody certify election or commit to certifying an election?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		They're just like, whoa, they didn't do the good thing!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'll give you an example.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		They're saying they won't do the good thing!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Salt in cookies.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Did you know that you put salt in your cookies when you make them?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		How many people have you ever run into, because I've run into a lot, where they get mad.
		I've been in numerous occasions where I've been baking cookies, and when I pulled the salt out, they said, don't put salt in it, what are you doing?
		Because they thought you don't put salt in desserts.
		Which you literally do.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Wow, recipes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But there are a lot of- Yeah.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Those would be terrible.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Knowing those cookies that didn't put any salt in them.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But a lot of people don't understand the point of putting salt in food.
		And so they think cookies have sugar, not salt.
		Don't put salt in it.
		Someone who is smart enough to understand recipes can make cookies, but not smart enough to understand that...
		Yeah, sometimes things sound counterintuitive.
unidentified		It goes back to our educational system because they don't teach.
		I mean, the whole word educate, I think in Greek or Latin, is to discover within, right?
		And that used to be the process.
		You would go and actually try to become educated.
		You would learn, you have deductive reasoning, critical, you know, critical reasoning skills.
		So you would learn not just reading, writing, arithmetic, but you would learn how to debate somebody, right?
		You'd have these conversations.
		I mean, try pulling an average person in on this show and have them just think and debate.
		I mean, that just, sadly, that's not happening.
		And I think it's, it's endemic of the educational system that we have today.
		People just can't think for themselves.
		So, so that is part and parcel of what I think you're going to say.
		That's really a communist ideology.
		Just to give somebody.
		Here you go.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		No, I was just going to bring up the fact that man on the street is a thing that everybody does for a reason because there are plenty of hilarious people out there.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I want to pull up this story here.
		It's a tweet from Mike Benz.
		He says, watch this incredible moment that a rep from the Pentagon Psychological Operations Research Firm pitched NATO's military PSYOP center on turning Taylor Swift into an asset for the Western Military Alliance to stop disinformation on the internet.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Excuse me?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, let me play first the beginning.
unidentified		So the first one, that's the most famous and the most common, is working with famous people or main influencers to share information or a particular message.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Okay, now I'm going to pause real quick.
		The image being displayed at SciCon, that's a C-Y-Con, it says identification and segmentation.
		In the identification era, it shows Taylor Swift and it says goal.
		Identify key actors to train and spread desired messaging.
		Example.
		Encourage opinion leaders to share counter I.O.
		content.
		Risk.
		Opinion leaders may not want to share content or may accidentally share misleading content.
		Let's play more.
unidentified		So I include Taylor Swift in here because... Are you fucking kidding me?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So yes, Mike is clearly enjoying that they've included Taylor Swift in here, but I must stress Many people have been accusing Taylor Swift of being a psy-op or being in on psychological operations to some degree.
		This is an example being given.
		From what I can see here in this clip, the woman did not say, we literally are working with Taylor Swift.
		She says, I use Taylor Swift as an example.
		That being said, what people need to understand about the potential for psychological operations and high-level influencers are in on it, it's that You know, who was it?
		I think I was talking to Seamus about this earlier.
		We were talking about who's possibly a Fed in media.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We're talking about Ray Epps.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		We have a little cork board.
unidentified		Right.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Tim takes Polaroids of people when they do the podcast and we put them on the cork board with a bunch of yarn.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Red string we tie around the thumbtick.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		And we're trying to figure it out.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So we actually don't.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		We weeded a couple out, I think.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But we were talking about who may actually be Feds.
		Let me inform all of you guys.
		There are no feds.
		There are feds, there are federal informants, but the idea that people working in media are secretly federal informants is just absolutely not the case.
		The idea that Taylor Swift is a handler, I would say is absolutely not the case, but I will tell you what is very likely the case.
		I explained this a long time ago, and I'll explain it to you all again.
		You can go on Google Ads and choose to run advertisements of any sort on any channel you want.
		So let's say you want a particular kind of political content to be successful.
		If the CIA or the FBI wanted certain messaging to be dominant in this country, all they would have to do is create a proxy company Go on to Google Ads, buy ads at high rates on an individual's channel.
		Let's say they're like Freedom Tunes, Seamus' channel, and they say his content he's producing is... Well, let's put it this way.
		Let's accuse TimCast.
		Let's go with TimCast.
		We are anti-establishment, but we're not super far right or anything like that.
		We're fairly moderate on the political positions, but we're very anti-establishment.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Notice he had to switch to Tim Cass to make that point.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right, because Freedom Tunes is just too far out there.
		But so the argument would be this.
		If the federal government liked that, for instance, after Donald Trump was defeated by Joe Biden in the 2020 election, and I don't mean fairly, I'm literally saying Biden is in the White House, They, the feds then go, you know, look, we got a bunch of conservatives over here saying Trump won.
		Then we got someone like Tim Poole, who almost agrees with them on all these other issues.
		So he's got a big portion of the audience, but he is saying Joe Biden won.
		What do they do?
		Nobody emails me.
		Nobody comes here, knocks on the door and says, Mr. Poole, we'd like to pay you to say these things for us.
		What they do is, they target people who they think have the message they like, by ads, like indiscriminately and just discreetly.
		On Google, and what I mean is they'll just, indiscriminately as in, they'll pull up a big thing of people and just throw money at them, and they don't care what you say, they don't ask you to say things, they just funnel money secretly through an automated programmatic system.
		So when people argue that Taylor Swift is a psyop, they don't need to send someone to ask her to do it.
		What happens is, Taylor Swift makes music, people like it.
		Taylor Swift then says, I'm voting for Biden and Kamala Harris.
		They say, you know, we really like that message.
		Let's, uh, let's use one of our proxy companies to sponsor her next tour and give her a million dollars.
		That million dollars will go towards her expanding her business.
		That's the game.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's how they run PsyOps.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we were talking about this.
		Also, you gotta remember, like, it's not as if you have to pay people to believe things that are wrong.
		Every time someone says something that another person disagrees with, they'll go like, you're a grifter!
		You're only saying that because it's a financial incentive.
		As if no one has ever been incorrect about anything because they just came to the wrong conclusion on their own.
		It's like, sometimes people just believe things that are wrong.
		In fact, it's crazy, most of the time, People believe things that are wrong, and you don't have to believe that the federal government is paying somebody.
		The reality is, we live in a system where people are not encouraged to choose virtue.
		When you're not encouraged to choose virtue, you're going to take the path of least resistance as often as possible, and that means falling in line with opinions that are more popular, because it's difficult to argue for unpopular opinions.
		That's all it is.
		You don't have to fund anybody.
		You don't have to run any kind of special operation to get pop artists.
		Why does someone become a pop artist?
		Why does someone become a famous actor?
		Because they want to be liked.
		So as long as the culture says being liked means having these opinions, then they're going to have those opinions.
		You don't have to blackmail them.
		You don't have to give them money.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I partly disagree.
		A lot of people who get famous end up not liking being famous, and they quit.
		They try to hide.
		A lot of people who get famous enjoy being famous.
		It's not absolute.
		So, when I look at someone like Taylor Swift, I don't know so much that when she was a little kid, she said, I wish I was famous, other than she made music, the music got popular, and now she's famous.
		There are certainly people who want nothing but to be famous, and what do you see?
		They make up fake garbage on social media for clicks and likes, and that is a lot of people.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		But even when it's not a pursuit of fame, and I'm not saying that there are no famous artists who just believe in their craft, but any kind of performance art is going to disproportionately attract people who are attention-seeking and want large crowds to like them.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		It's like, it doesn't have to be a formal conspiracy anyways.
		People are just doing what they want to do.
		They're doing what's best for them, you know?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There's a much easier PSYOPs conspiracy that we all already know about.
		And I will stress it again.
		The feds don't need to go to any individual creator and offer them money or recruit them and they're secretly CIA.
		It's actually much easier.
		They send a national security letter to Facebook and they say, we want your algorithm to prop up this kind of content.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		That's it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And ban this kind of content.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		This is where things actually start to get really scary.
		I remember there was something my dad said to me when I was in high school.
		I asked him, do you believe in any conspiracy theories?
		And he said, no.
		The government doesn't need to cover anything up because the media will just call you racist or sexist or homophobic or evil if you point out things that are actually happening.
		and try to destroy you that way.
		But nowadays that's not working like it used to.
		So they actually do have to interfere in ways that they didn't before
		because they don't control information as tightly as they used to,
		which is why we saw, as Tim alluded to, the White House communicating with Facebook
		about what kind of information should be allowed on that platform.
unidentified		Yeah.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, this is not something that really should come as any kind of surprise.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		We've talked about it here all the time.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So you're saying that Taylor Swift is working for this man?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		I don't think that anyone...
		I don't think there are actually assets like that.
		I think that the incentive structures that are built up don't require that.
		And it's the same thing when it comes to the deep state, right?
		All the deep state is, is your average people that are bureaucrats that don't change when the administration, the policy people change.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But how cool would it be?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If Taylor Swift was like... At January 6th, telling people to riot.
unidentified		She's down there going like... She's like, stop the steal!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, I was gonna say, how cool would it be if, like, you know, 30, 34 years ago, two people are recruited by the CIA to have a child, which would go on to become a pop star to influence and control the minds of the youth, and then you've got, like, seven-year-old Taylor Swift learning, like, you know, I don't know, Brazilian jiu-jitsu and, like, Krav Maga, and then they're like, next up will be your Piano training.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And they'd make a teacher to sing.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		That's hilarious.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And like the whole thing was one big military site to control the world's population through Tom Isaac.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Getting into the Donald Trump was a Soviet asset territory.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Trump was a Soviet attempt to raise someone, but they kind of screwed it up because they had like a lack of, you know, proper resources.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then Trump went rogue and became like a world leader in the other direction.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I just, I like the idea that Taylor Swift is like a fed in the sense that people usually call attractive women online feds.
		She's like in people's DMs telling them to commit gun crimes and stuff.
		She's like, what if you drilled another hole?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		There are no women online, remember that.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		They're all feds.
		Every woman online.
		If a woman appears even remotely attractive on the internet, she is a fed.
		That's factually true.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		That is true.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's the thing that's true about MMORPGs, right?
		You'll see like a female character on it.
		It's just a guy playing a female character.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's like women are playing Candy Crush, you know what I mean?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's true.
		No, that's a fact.
		That's actually true.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Women overwhelmingly play.
		I love these reports where they're like, women now make up 51% of gamers.
		And it's like, yeah, but you mean like Candy Crush and Angry Birds.
		They do.
		They do.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		They do usually.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		That's hilarious.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like how many women are playing Baldur's Gate 3?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like a small percentage, you know what I mean?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		And you know what?
		Women get so mad, and I'm saying this as a non-gamer, okay?
		But women get so mad at guys for playing video games.
		You don't hear guys out here knocking Candy Crush going like, I hate that my girlfriend plays Candy Crush.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Candy Crush is fun, dude.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		But the girls are like, why is he always playing Call of Duty?
		It's like, look at the apps on your own iPhone, okay?
		Look at the games you're playing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like every guy knows this.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Those aren't the games they play, they play games with your head.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Remember when it was Fresh and Fit, they said women don't have hobbies?
		Yeah, that's true.
		Why would he say that?
		It's because from a male perspective, they don't.
		Women obviously have hobbies, but from a male perspective, they don't.
		If I go to a skate park, there's going to be one woman for every 15 or 20 guys.
		If I go to the poker room, there's going to be one woman for every 15 or 20 guys.
		When you go to these kinds of things that guys normally do, you don't see that many women.
		However, I don't know, is like, getting your hair done and like, fashion a hobby?
		Some people argue it is.
		And so it's like, what do women enjoy doing?
		It's just not the same as what guys enjoy doing, so guys don't see women around all the time.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Well also, so this is my theory, and I think this is actually validated by a lot of the metrics we have, like IQ for example, but I think it applies across a wide span of human activities, where Men either tend to be, like, really good at things or really bad at things, whereas women tend to be more average.
		So again, we see this with IQ.
		Men and women have the same average IQ, but men are more likely to be smart or dumb, whereas women are more likely to actually just be average.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The greater male variability hypothesis.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		And so I think that's why you see men in a lot more of these hobbies.
		I think men are just more likely to become obsessive over something and get really into it, whereas women are more likely to be adorable.
		Yeah, to generalize.
		No, it's true.
		And that's one of the cool things about being a man is like, there is this proclivity to just find something you're really interested in and obsess over it.
		And I think that women have that to a degree for sure, but it manifests very differently.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's jump to the important news here.
		Michelle Obama says she's terrified about potential outcome of 2024 election.
		She's running.
		So, the other day, a top strategist for JPMorgan said that Joe Biden will drop out in March following Super Tuesday.
		I believe this makes the most sense as of right now.
		It doesn't mean it's absolute, but it makes sense.
		Why?
		Many people said Joe Biden can't drop out.
		It's too late to hold a primary.
		Okay, but that's actually the best thing Democrats could do.
		Keep Joe Biden in the race until it is too late to hold a primary.
		Due to a medical issue, he is forced to bow out.
		And then, because they can't have a primary, they get to appoint someone, the DNC does, bypassing the potential for Marianne Williamson, RFK Jr., or Cenk Uygur, stopping them from winning the nomination.
		In this instance, with this story emerging of Michelle Obama now popping up and saying she's concerned about the outcome of 2024, I think there's a really great opportunity right now to put a wager on Michelle Obama winning the Democrat nomination or being the nominee against Donald Trump because, well, she's terrified about the potential outcome of 2024.
		Where does that story go and why is she being asked?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Because in one month, she says, my fear of what's to come in 2024 is so great, I feel like I must do something about it.
		A month after that, Joe Biden stumbles and falls.
		Michelle Obama says my greatest fear has been realized.
		Our great leader, Joe Biden, has fallen ill.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Someone tied his shoes together, and he tripped, and now he can't be president anymore.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		A month later, she says, I must do my duty to prevent my greatest fear from coming to fruition.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I must run for the presidency.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
		It's self-sacrificing, and every politician has to have a narrative like this.
		We saw this with Joe Biden.
		The reason I ran for president was because of Charlottesville.
		I saw what happened on television, and I said, I need to run.
		I saw Charlottesville happening and said, I need to be the one running this country.
		It's like, all right, Joe.
		But that's the story that he went with, and they all try to have their own little origin story.
		And so this is clearly hers.
		She said, I'm just so nervous about what's happening.
		Donald Trump, he's a criminal?
		They're going to let this man be president?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		If she runs, I think she wins.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Do you really think so?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I would have thought that a year or so ago.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm not as convinced.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		You are blackfilled, man.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		No, I mean, look it.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		She's going to go.
unidentified		You think she wins the general election?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, she goes and she sits down with Oprah and then like, All your soccer moms, all your wine moms are voting for?
		I mean, the only people that won't vote for her are people that have actual grievance.
		So the people that are really PO'd about things.
		The people that have kids, that have dealt with LGBT issues at schools, those people are not going to switch because she's running.
		But people that are just, people that are lightly Involved in politics that are middle that are middle class that that generally aren't feeling the effects of the economy or inflation.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I Disagree for one simple reason these liberal minded suburban moms.
		I don't think would vote for a black woman I think they're the reason they believe DEI stuff is because they're overtly racist I believe that the only way you end up with someone preaching about racism But then actually pushing for segregation like I saw in Sweden is that they're deeply racist and they're trying to prove they're not But in private, they're gonna be as racist as they can be.
		Look at all of these liberal personalities who say racist things behind closed doors and they get busted for it or whatever.
		I shouldn't say all these, but numerous stories over the past few years, and sexist things as well.
		I'd be willing to bet all of these liberal Democrat wine mobs in the suburbs would be like, oh yeah, I'll vote for Michelle Obama, and then privately be like, no way I'm doing that, I'm voting for Donald Trump.
		Tina Fey, in 30 Rock, not the Alien one, said in the first season,
		I tell my friends I voted for Barack Obama, but I secretly voted for John McCain.
		I think a lot of people will claim they're voting for Michelle Obama, and then they'll
		be shocked when it's actually a narrow race and she doesn't do as well as people think.
		Not to mention, I don't think that the nostalgia factor is going to play as well as they would hope.
		Joe Biden came in, he trashed everything, and the issue now is it's not even necessarily about the person, it's about the party.
		Joe Biden as a Democrat and the Democrats have done so poorly that Michelle Obama could run and she'll do better than Biden.
		That's a fact.
		But I don't know if it's enough to overcome Trump's success in the polls right now.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, also, I think one massive mistake that the Democrats have made over the past two years is they've actually turned parents into a voting bloc in a way that we've never seen before.
		They've been like, well, you know, I just want to let you know if you're against porn being shown to children in schools, you're a big bad far-right extremist.
		And then a bunch of parents went, all right, well, I guess I'm a big bad far-right extremist then, because I would rather be that than allow you perverts to groom my children.
		And here we are.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		No, you're both wrong.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		She'll win.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		You think so?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, I do.
		And that's not, obviously, clearly, I'm not endorsing Michelle Obama.
		I'm endorsing, at least until the primary, I'm going to vote for Vivek in the primary because he's the guy that's talking about cutting government most.
		Whoever is talking about cutting the government most is who I'm going to vote for.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I don't know, man.
		I think you're endorsing Michelle.
		You really seem to want her to win.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Well, anyways, you can think that.
		It's cute, but I like to think here that Tim is right.
		I would love it.
		I would love it.
		I would like to be wrong.
		This is not some kind of thing where I'm like, oh man, this is what I'm hoping for.
		I would love to be wrong.
		But like I said, I am blackpilled as hell on what the American people want because I don't see, as much as we're seeing pushback against the people that are complaining about Palestine and protesting and stuff, I don't see enough pushback from your normal people.
		For me to be like, oh, the general consensus is not the left-leaning consensus.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		It's like the soma of life and everything is just so much.
		There's nothing really pushing them to really feel like, hey, I got to do something about this.
		Hey, I'm going to stand up and say something.
unidentified		I think because I'm traveling around, even in my own state, I'm seeing people that are just being crushed by Bidenomics and inflation.
		And it's the constant talk.
		I've done over 50 town halls.
		And what you just said, I think rings true, that people are just so fed up with Democrats and Democratic leadership.
		And the lack thereof and how worse off they are today than they were under President Trump.
		I hear that a lot.
		I hope there's a lot of them.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		I hope so, too.
unidentified		But it is an interesting thought or comment about how people are so many Democrats are innately racist themselves.
unidentified		Oh, I mean, and we saw that with you just made me think of the immigrants that they flew to Martha's Vineyard.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		To see how quickly within 24 hours, they just went ahead and So there was that Yale study several years ago that found liberals drop their vocabulary level when speaking to black people.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And conservatives do not.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And it's really obvious why.
		Democrats, well, they've always been racist.
		I mean, it's quite literally their party platform since the early days.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		But they're like, hey, we switched the kind of racism that we have.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they're still racist.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And so if you have your average liberal who encounters a black person and then tries to sound stupid on purpose.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		It's crazy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They're basically saying they think black people are stupid.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Whereas conservatives just talk to them like normal people because they just think they're normal people.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		It's really insulting.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You think a person who does that is going to look at Michelle Obama and think that's the person they want to lead the country?
		They may publicly act like they oppose racism, but from their own actions, they show that they actually look down on minorities, and when it comes to the private decision-making process, they're going to brag to the high heavens, I just voted for Michelle.
		I actually voted for Trump, but I'm not telling my friends that because I'll get made fun of.
		They're gonna vote for Trump!
		Now, the challenge I think Trump has with a lot of these women, though, is that he's, like, nasty.
		A lot of these liberal Democrat women are like, he grosses me out.
		And so they're gonna be put to the test of whether or not to be more racist or disgusted.
		And whether or not, like, which will play a bigger role.
		I gotta be honest, I think many of these Democrats are so racist, they would say, well, I'm disgusted by Trump!
		But they'd vote for him.
		Because that's how racist I think they are.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		That they wouldn't want to vote for Rochelle.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And I'm not saying every single one.
		What we see in the data from this study is that a decent amount of liberals will lower their vocabulary level when talking to black people because they assume black people are stupid.
		I mean, look at the voter ID thing!
		Ami Horowitz with one of the greatest political videos ever made.
		Have you seen this one?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He goes around asking black people.
		He goes to Berkeley and he says, do you think voter ID is racist?
		Like, yeah, of course, because black people don't know how to get the internet and can't get IDs.
		And then he just goes to black neighbors in New York and he's like, do you have an ID?
		And they're like, yeah.
		And he's like, do you have the internet?
		And I love this teenage, this like 20 year old guy's like, what do you mean?
		Even a 13 year old kid's got the internet.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		My favorite, though, was when he asks the guy, one of the Berkeley kids says, it's hard for them to get to the DMV, they don't know where it is.
		And then he asks this older black guy, he's like, can I ask you a question?
		Do you know where the DMV is?
		And he goes, yeah, it's over there on 26.
		He's gonna go down here and make a left.
		Like the guy was asking for directions.
		It was such a stupid question to ask a guy.
		He assumed the guy needed help finding it.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, dude, it's hilarious.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Those people are going to vote for Michelle?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, right.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I mean, a lot of these, they might because it'll make them feel better about themselves and absolve themselves of their racism, but what's hilarious to me is that, you know, so for example, like as a voice actor, someone who does voices for cartoons, They'll say about me and other voice actors like, you could never do a black voice.
		But then every time they talk to a black person, they try to do this weird impression of how black people speak.
		And this is exactly what that study's talking about.
		They'll do that.
		They'll like start using black slang and they'll, as the studies literally show, they will use a dumbed down vocabulary.
		It's like, this is insanely insulting.
		And then you get bent out of shape over like a comedian doing an impression of a black person.
		As a joke, when you're actually trying to do it in real life because you think that's how you should communicate with another group of people.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		So there are times when I'm on tour where I have to go on vocal rest and I'm not allowed to talk, right?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		So people walk in the room and I can't say anything.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Everyone must hate that.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It's super annoying.
		It's the most annoying thing in the world.
		But people...
		They constantly come up and they don't know how to talk because I can't talk to them.
		And so what they start doing is they start whispering, or they try to sign, and it's like, I'm the one that can't talk, dummy.
		And I wonder if that's the same kind of thing.
		They think that the person they're interacting with is unable to, so they try, if it's the same kind of like, if they're not thinking about it, it's the same kind of reaction.
		So anyways, I just thought it was funny.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, absolutely.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		That's hilarious.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		It's funny how if you focus on race and make that into everything you think about and everything that even matters, eventually it becomes the only thing you think about and the only thing that even matters.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It can't be any other way like that.
		If you are constantly thinking about... The point of... There was all that talk about critical race theory.
		The point of critical race theory was to awaken a critical racial consciousness.
		So that way people would see things through the lens of a racial power dynamic all the time.
		That was the whole point.
		And so people were all focused about, oh, you know, they're not teaching critical race theory, blah, blah, blah in schools.
		But what they were teaching kids was to see everything in a racialized way.
		And that That creates racism.
		That's what happens.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		And not just in a racialized way, but there's an irony there.
		It's called critical race theory, but there's only one race you're allowed to be critical of.
		It's just white people bat.
		That's all.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, that's the way that it pans out here, but what it is is it's just Marxist power dynamics.
		So here it's white people, but when it was used in, we've talked about the Cultural Revolution, when it was used in the Cultural Revolution in China, it was Han Chinese were the dominant ethnicity.
		And so it was Han privilege.
		And all the stuff that we're seeing here, all the focus on race, it was all already done in China.
		With different ethnicities that, you know, your average Westerner wouldn't know.
		They wouldn't know the particulars about the ethnicities in China.
		But there are a lot of different ethnicities and the same kind of power dynamics were used to justify oppressing the majority that had wealth and stuff like that.
		So it's not new.
		And the more we can reveal these things to people, these You know, similarities with some of the most horrible ideologies in human history, the better it's going to be.
		But we have a big job in front of us.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, and it's no surprise that somebody tried this, right?
		When it comes to the division that they've stoked between the races, because the fact that Americans of all different ethnicities and races got along as well as they did in the United States, It's just unbelievable.
		It's never been perfect, but for a good chunk of time over the past few decades, it's pretty much been better than anywhere in the entire world, where multiple ethnicities have been in one place.
unidentified		Yes.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Including ethnicities that are really, really similar, whereas in the United States we have ethnic and racial groups that are far more different than those other ones are, where we see far more conflict.
		And so, it's a miracle that we were able to get things working as well as we did.
		And so, it's no shock, it's no shock that someone trying to upset the system would come in and sow those seeds of discord.
		Because it's a lot easier to destroy something like that than it is to build something like that.
		It actually, it offers, the amount of racial and ethnic harmony that existed in the United States offers a tremendous opportunity for evil people to upset the system.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Because that doesn't exist anywhere else, so it has to be really easy to tear down And the way that you go about it is by attacking the things that transcend race, which are the fundamental principles that make America American.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It is, first of all, liberalism.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Conserving liberalism.
		I want to get that point home because you're conserving liberalism.
		I think people forget that all the time.
		You're conserving liberalism.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		And the biggest problem right now that's going on, that we have, is that the progressives have convinced the Democrats, the liberal Democrats, that they are not liberal.
		They have convinced them that progressive policies, which are based on race, or based on sex, or based on identity, that are prohibited, specifically prohibited by the Civil Rights Act, that these are continuations of the Civil Rights Act.
		When they actually fly in the face of the Civil Rights Act.
		The people that were marching during the Civil Rights Act in the 60s, they held signs that said, I am a man.
		The point was they wanted to be seen as a human being.
		And Jim Crow laws treated them as less than humans.
		And now, The the focus is on I am black or I am this minority, which means don't see me for my humanity, which is my group 100% it is 180 degrees from everything the civil rights movement was focused on the civil rights movement It was intended to be liberal because it was intended to treat people based on their humanity and everything you hear now
		is based on race and identity and that it flies in the face of liberalism and it flies in the face of the fundamental principles that the United States is based on.
unidentified		100%.
		I think another reason why that happens is because it's a system of control.
		If they can create identity politics and tribalism the way that they have, You know, we got to get this group against that group.
		It goes back to democracy.
		Yes, much easier to divide.
		You've got these many, you know, these groups that are everywhere pitted against each other.
		You can control them much more effectively.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Hey, great time to be talking about this.
		MLK, rest in peace.
		Good time to be talking about this.
		The thing is, Free World Day is the actual holiday.
		Did anyone know off the top of their head MLK Day is what day?
unidentified		No.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		It's on the 16th.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		16th, okay.
unidentified		Right?
		Yeah, yeah.
		15th or 16th.
		Yeah.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		But yeah, I mean, the efforts that are being undertaken, the point is to tear at the foundation of the United States.
		We talk about, you know, how they change the language and how they change the meaning of words.
		I mentioned this the other night.
		There's the effort to do land dedications, the impulse to do that.
		That's all a terrible idea because it It gives credibility to the legitimacy of the idea that the land is stolen.
		Now, throughout history, there has been conquered people throughout history.
		That's the way, you know, countries have been formed and stuff.
		And when you cast the creation of the United States in the light of illegitimate, that means that all property in the United States is now stolen property.
		And that means that the Fourth Amendment doesn't protect it.
		It doesn't, the takings clause doesn't, like, it's all up for grabs.
		Once you change the meaning of words, all of the laws that we have, the meanings of the words change, all of those laws, they're all nothing more than a memory.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Because they're based on ideas. Yeah, you change the words the definition of the word you change the idea
		fundamentally So yeah, totally great
		And again, this also ties in how the idea of like what Mal did where he'd like be destabilizing on purpose
		Yeah, and then be that stabilizing force. It gives legitimacy to them again. It's all about legitimizing their
		claim to power Yep, which is you know?
		Questionable, that's a lot of times. So yeah, how could you guys say something like that? Hey, I'm
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		On stolen land.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		You know.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Sickening.
		No, that argument was always so ridiculous to me.
		It's like, okay, it's like, how can you have justice on stolen land?
		It's like, I guess we can't have justice anywhere.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Ever.
		Ever.
		Literally forever.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Everything has been stolen.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So, uh, I just left the room.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I am now back in the room.
		Our flight tonight was canceled because the blizzards in the Midwest are intense and the roads are basically shut down.
		So we got this jet waiting for us and they said they can't do it.
		So the bad news is this means that here's the plan.
		We're gonna try again at 10 a.m.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		to fly out.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But that means I'm not gonna be able to record my morning show as normal.
unidentified		Oh man.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But there's a solution.
		I just have to wake up at 6 a.m.
		and record segments early and try and just record maybe, you know, because I normally record them in an hour, but it's over several hours of doing research and pulling up news stories and reading a lot.
		So they may be what I would describe as lesser segments, like more cultural stories where I'm commenting on like a TikTok video or something, and then just get like three or four segments cranked out at like 6 a.m.
		so we can make a 10 a.m.
		flight.
		Which means we will keep the Uncensored Members Only Show tonight a little bit shorter than we normally would in that maybe just a half an hour tonight instead of 50, 45, 50 minutes.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So I can get to bed and wake up early and then we gotta fly to Des Moines, Iowa at 10 a.m.
		tomorrow morning.
		Oh, this is so brutal.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Hey, I heard Des Moines is great this time of year.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, they got a blizzard!
		Yeah, exactly.
		But I think I'm really excited for this event that we're doing.
		This Vivec Town Hall is very, very important for everything that's going on.
		So we're gonna have to figure out how to make it work.
		And I can sleep when I'm dead.
unidentified		Yeah!
		The plan is gonna be, we'll, you know... That's what I've been saying with this campaign.
		I could sleep in six months, you know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
unidentified		I'll just wait.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You gotta get the grind.
unidentified		Keep going.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Wake up, get it done.
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		And so he is a huge, huge fan.
		That's that's great.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm just checking on the flights here, because... Oh, this is going to be so brutal.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Things change fast, too.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I know.
		But we're doing big stuff this year.
		It's going to be a big year, and we've got a bunch of big shows planned.
		Don Jr.
		is going to be coming on the show this week while we're in Des Moines, because everybody's trying to get their last-minute pitches in for the caucus, and it's going to be really, really great.
		Alright, here we go.
		Jacob Parody says, did anybody see JP Morgan's 10 Shockers 2024?
		Well, the one I can mention is that Joe Biden drops out.
		There were a couple others that I didn't really care that much about.
		I don't know if you guys read the full list, but I'm sure there's something in there that's probably more interesting, or it could be interesting.
		Right?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Alright.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Western Body says, second vote early, vote second.
		Vote early, vote often.
		Yes.
		Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
		says, simple question, need only simple answers.
		There's no need for all the meaningless hoopla that makes you sound not confident with your answer.
		That's right.
		Yeah, today, in the arguments, in the Trump appeal on immunity, I'm really frustrated with Trump's lawyer trying to, like, the judge said to the lawyer, if the president committed an assassination and ordered SEAL Team 6 to do it, you're saying that they could not be prosecuted if they weren't impeached.
		The answer to that is, correct, I am saying that they cannot be impeached.
		Instead, the lawyer is like, no, it's qualified, qualified, yes, I mean, like, if he's impeached, and the judge is like, let me try again.
		Now it is annoying the way the judges are asking questions, but if you're making a point, it's just as simple.
		No, the president cannot be criminally charged or indicted unless he has been impeached and convicted.
		Next question.
		It's that simple.
unidentified		Alright.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The Silence says, first, no sir, you're very very off, sorry.
		He says, watch Chainsaw Man, peak anime.
		I've heard of it, I haven't watched it.
		I'm actually just re-watching Yu Yu Hakusho.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you like Ghost Detective?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, of course, but Netflix made a live version, which is just so awful.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		I'm not even gonna watch it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's only five episodes, and it tries to condense, like...
		Elements of the whole show into one It's really funny because he like for no reason goes to get
		trained by Genkai And then he's there for literally ten minutes out of the
		show But then he's like no when she dies, and it's just like
		what?
		It just doesn't work. Sorry your live-action you you haka shit does not work
		But the actual show itself was awesome. Yeah, true. All right where we at
		What do we have is it?
		Zachary McCoy says, why will people say there's no good candidates with this Biden-Trump election again, but not even consider Vivek?
		We are doomed.
		Seriously.
		It's fascinating to me that Vivek is not Trump in terms of character and candor.
		He's America first.
		But you have these people like, I'm gonna vote for Nikki Haley.
		I wouldn't vote for Trump.
		And it's like, well, then why wouldn't you just vote for Vivek?
		America first, protect the economy, real business experience.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I think it's because I like him.
unidentified		You're turning everybody off.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Poor Vivek.
		He tells the truth, and then the media lies about him.
		But that's what they do with everybody.
		If Vivek went up on stage and said January 6th was an inside job, He goes up on stage and he goes, it's looking more like January 6th is an inside job and I want to fund the military-industrial complex to blow up foreign countries.
		And CNN would be like, he's completely right about everything.
unidentified		He's correct.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		January 6th was an inside job.
		More money for the military-industrial complex.
		But the moment he says we shouldn't be engaging in foreign wars and providing all this foreign funding, they're like, he's crazy!
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It's the worst.
unidentified		Yep.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		All right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Matthew Rowe says, Tim, Jews and tunnels sounds like some World War II-ish.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's actually a really great point.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If it is true that the reason they built the tunnel, and I heard this, is because the city locked down places of worship illegally and unconstitutionally, and they were fighting for their right to worship, they were in the right to do so.
		And they did so non-violently.
		I can respect that.
		Now I do have concerns about the structural integrity of the building, so, you know, digging tunnels underground can be very dangerous.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		And also, I just want to say, to all my Catholics, on behalf of all the other Catholics, we are slacking.
		Like, they have tunnels, where are our catacombs?
		Where are the catacombs under the large cities that Catholics live in?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Stephen Bordelmay says, here is some money, some spoon money, Tim.
		I hear they keep going missing for some reason.
		Hey, Seamus.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Hey, how's it going?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, so this morning, we have these little mugs that we got from REI.
		They're like a thermos, but they're mugs.
		Yeah, what about them?
		And, oh, I have one and Allison has one.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, those are nice.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And Allison uses hers because when she pours her coffee in it, you can put a lid on it, and it's not quite a thermos, but it's a mug that keeps things warm.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, hers was gone.
unidentified		Huh.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This morning.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		That's weird.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And she was wondering where it went.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And she noticed that this strange thing keeps happening where mugs from our kitchen keep appearing in the studio building.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		That is weird.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		As if someone is taking our mugs, who's staying at our house, and then walking out with them, walking to the studio while drinking the coffee, and then leaving it in the other kitchen.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		That's really weird.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It is very strange.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I wonder why that's happening.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It must be a ghost.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I think we probably should get paranormal investigators or at least just check the security camera footage on the property for sure.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The only explanation is that a ghost is making coffee and then carrying the cups into the studio and perhaps the ghost is in the room right now with us.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's only been here for like the last two or three days, right?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Two or three days.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		It's really weird.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Why would the ghost get here when I got here?
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		I know!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The ghost must be following you!
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Do you really think so?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yes, perhaps.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's a ghost, Seamus.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Dude, I don't even want to think about that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's freaking me out.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		That's freaking me out.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Um, in other words, Seamus is stealing our mugs.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		What?!
		Hold on, that's where you were going with that?!
		Are you s- That's ridi- Hold on a second.
		We don't actually have any evidence that any of this happened.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Alice, I would never- I look out my window and I see Seamus drinking his coffee and walking up the hill.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Listen, you guys know me.
		I would never do that.
		I would never do something like that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know me.
		The funny thing about the spoons thing was that it was like three spoons.
		It was like three spoons.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		And I didn't even take them.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And Seamus is the one who turned it into this big meme because he wanted attention for himself.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		No, that never even happened.
		I didn't take anything.
		You guys know me.
		You know I wouldn't do that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So what actually happened is like, Allison noticed that some spoons were not in the kitchen.
		She's like, oh, there's some spoons.
		Like, do you think Seamus has them downstairs?
		Yeah.
		Why would I say that?
		Why would I say that when I never took your spoons?
		That's so offensive towards me and my ethnic people.
		and puts them in the sink and then Seamus goes, there's an Irish man living under my house stealing my
		spoons.
unidentified		Why would I say that? Why would I say that when I never took your spoons?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		That's so offensive towards me and my people.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Irish man living under my house stealing my spoons.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Seamus made that up and then when we all laughed at it, Seamus denied it ever happened.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I would never do that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Anyway.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		It's not true.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Tim said I made a secret tunnel under his house to steal spoons.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm like, what is this?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		He's like, I hear people speaking Irish under my apartment.
		I have no basement.
		I don't know where this is.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I saw an Irishman coming out of the ground in front of my house.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I smacked the camera.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and then runs.
		Zach Ayasi says, be safe in your travels tonight.
		Most of our roads here in Iowa are listed as mostly covered.
		Uh, to travel not advised as I'm getting ready for work.
		Well, the crew said they will not fly.
		And, uh, so we're gonna fly first thing in the morning.
		And I'm just groaning like, ugh.
		It's so expensive.
		We just, like, we can't cancel it.
		And, you know, so, uh, we're talking with the crew and figuring things out.
		But I'm gonna wake up at six in the morning and try and record as much as I can.
		To have some segments up.
unidentified		And, uh, then, you know, it just, uh, oof.
unidentified		Oof.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		MitchTheEngineer says, Tim, can I get a birthday shout-out?
		Also, does anyone know if the Ray Epps judge oversaw any of the rest of the J6 trials, maybe have grounds for an appeal?
		I don't know if you can appeal based on determinations of different judges like that.
		But happy birthday, MitchTheEngineer.
unidentified		Yeah, happy birthday.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right, where are we at?
		Let's see, Fat Hravski says, looks like Trump has the perfect defense with Ray Epps.
		Would you agree?
		No, because Trump does not want to argue he in any way incited anybody to go into the Capitol.
		So if he says, I incited people, but look, you can't criminally charge me, then he's just admitting what they want him to admit.
unidentified		Yeah, I think just to the contrary, right?
		I mean, he said many times, peacefully, go up to the Capitol.
		I don't think there's any evidence.
		He's never been convicted of conspiracy, of insurrection, charged, convicted, nothing.
		And yet he's going through all of this right now.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
unidentified		That's where I love Vivek, I gotta say.
		He's phenomenal.
		I mean, I went out, when I got endorsed by Charlie Kirk, I was able to meet him.
		Brilliant, brilliant guy.
		Oh yeah, absolutely brilliant guy.
		Donald Trump, I have endorsed because I can see what's going on.
		The deep state, what we've talked about here.
		I mean, there's so much going on where he has exhibited that strength to stand up and push back.
		That is exactly what we need right now.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Vivek needs to stay in this race because they're doing everything they can to remove Trump from it.
		And if something happens in the next few months where Donald Trump is removed from the primary, we are going to be very grateful that we have Vivek as an option in the primary.
		Now, I don't know what that means in terms of voting for Trump, but this is going to get really wild, and we are looking at 1860 levels of, like, election.
		Okay?
		Electioneering and election history.
		Four candidates in the election in 1860.
		We could be looking at four candidates this time around.
		Let's say Donald Trump is booed from the ballot, so he announces, I'm still running, you can't stop me.
		He runs as an independent.
		The Republican primary is defaulted through this process to Nikki Haley.
		Then RFK Jr.
		runs independent, and Joe Biden or Michelle Obama.
		You have four candidates.
		And what happens?
		Trump easily wins that four-way race.
		No question.
		And the only way Trump does win is if it is split three ways like that.
		Trump's base is massive.
		It's like 40% of the GOP.
		They will write Trump in.
		He will lose 60% of that vote, but it will be split among RFK Jr.
		in a tiny degree.
		Nikki Haley will not get as much as people think.
		Michelle Obama may get a bunch, but I think Trump wins the plurality in that regard.
		And that will be a strong justification Democrats will use for either some kind of secession or rebellion, because they'll say, Donald Trump is the president, but only won 29% of the vote.
		We'll see, though.
		Victor Gordon says Casprew should work on creamers to pair with the coffees.
		And I just got my first order today, love it!
		Yo, I'm sorry man, like Appalachian Nights, the Casprew blend that we made, like we got the samples, we tried it out.
		It was my idea, I said here's what I think would be really good, we'll try it.
		It is the best coffee I've ever had, no question.
		It's a dark roast, it's a blend that we came up with, and it's just, man, once you drink Appalachian Nights, I'm sorry man, it'll ruin coffee for you, it's so good.
unidentified		Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Seriously that good.
		As long as you brew it right.
		But I'm really excited for the Alec Stein's Prime Time Grind 2x Caffeine that we just put out.
		A lot of people are talking about how they like certain double caffeine blends, and now they have an option from Cast Brew.
		Ian's blend is going to be a low acidity blend.
		So we're looking at coffees with low acidity to create the perfect coffee that is low acidity.
		And that's going to be Ian's graphene dream.
		And that actually should be coming out in a few weeks.
		We're really excited for it.
		The bags look so cool.
		I mean, Jessica is such an amazing artist.
		The graphene style bag and everything.
		We're really excited for this.
		Ian says, let's hope the judges come to the conclusion presidents can be charged.
		Then every conservative DA can file against Joe and demand he be arrested.
		Yeah, but come on, you know they're not gonna.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		They're going to be like, oh, geez, what do I do?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Your point presumes that anyone in Republican politics at that level is useful.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to put you here on the spot, good sir, running for the Senate.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Does the Second Amendment protect the right of children to keep and bear arms?
unidentified		Protect the right of children to keep and bear arms?
		Well, I would think it is applicable to every U.S.
		citizen, so yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You are correct.
		Particularly in most states, they actually have codified the laws as it pertains to children keeping and bearing arms.
		That means this requires parental supervision or some kind of permitting process, but it is protected.
		So we saw this with the Rittenhouse case, where the argument was, he's not old enough to keep and bear arms.
		Ah, but the provision actually says you can be under the age of majority and keep and bear arms for specific reasons.
		And if you actually go back in time, you can see where this applies very easily.
		A 13-year-old kid would be given a rifled musket to go out on the hunt with the father, and so in most circumstances, children can bear arms so long as they're accompanied by their parents.
		And that makes sense.
		The next question, put you on the spot.
		Does the Second Amendment protect the right of private persons to keep and bear nuclear weapons, weapons of mass destruction, and warships?
unidentified		I'm going to say no.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The answer is yes.
		Raytheon, Boeing, Lockheed Martin are private entities and private persons as per the U.S.
		tax law and code, and they're the ones who build our warships and our missiles and our weapons.
		So yes, private persons, as per U.S.
		law, do keep and bear weapons of war and mass destruction.
unidentified		So typically... Private persons to include corporations.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yes, but it also does mean individuals.
		Individuals because the only reason it's a corporation is because the amount of wealth required to do such a thing.
		And you're going to want to limit your liability.
		You know, it's like if you're if you're a private person, you're not going to be like, I, as my sole proprietorship, I'm going to build a hellfire missile because you'll be very much responsible personally in all your assets.
		But, um.
		You know, I've asked a lot of conservative politicians and liberal politicians, and they always say no, and I'm just like, who do you think's making our bombs?
		It's private corporations.
		Yes, you can fill out FFLs and say you're building a nuke.
		So it's always been the case that the Second Amendment protected the right of citizens to own cannons, warships, etc.
		I love that factoid because it's actually quite simple.
		It sounds more complicated and trickier than it is.
		If someone thinks it sounds unreasonable, you just say, like, Lockheed Martin and Raytheon are private entities as per U.S.
		law.
		They're not the government.
		Regulated and permitted and all that stuff, of course, of course.
		But they have missiles.
		So there you go.
		It's always been the case, huh?
		Privateers and Corsairs, etc.
		Alright, let's read some more.
		Paul Tascalo says, Tim, I own a private jet charter company, Vault Aviation.
		I'll donate $2,500 to a charity of your choice for the opportunity to quote your next trip.
		P.S.
		Be prepared to pay a $5,000 plus de-ice fee on your Iowa flight today.
		Oh, don't you know it?
		Don't I know it?
		Absolutely.
		So, the cost of this trip is very, very expensive.
		It is absurdly expensive.
		Plus, we've got the deadhead, the storage of the plane while we're in Iowa, because it's got to fly us back, because we're flying back Monday night.
		It's brutal.
		And then, of course, we have de-icing fees.
		Now, we may dodge de-icing because, um, we're flying tomorrow, and it's gonna be sunny and cold, so, um, we likely will still have- I think when we're leaving, we may be okay, depending- based on the weather, but, uh, you know, we'll see.
		Yeah, probably gonna have some kind of de-icing fee, I think it's probable, but we may- we may dodge it.
		But, uh, Vault Aviation, let me, uh, let me write that down right now, and, uh, we'll take a note of this.
		I'm writing it down.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you know, I hope we're able to make it.
		It'd be really, really cool if we can.
		If not, you know, we'll make the best of it.
		We'll still have some awesome shows.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so, uh, it's brutally expensive.
		I mean, uh...
		It's not been the... I'll just say this.
		We started flying private because it's the only way we can do some of these shows and make them happen.
		And I'm not some, you know, cringe climate change bleeding heart.
		I don't mind flying private.
		Don't complain about it.
		But the prices have been going up substantially.
		It's crazy.
		You know, it's like...
		We're getting a private jet for one trip where we're doing a big show, and it can seat eight or nine people.
		And the cost is usually like, if you're flying your crew out there, it's basically twice the cost of first class.
		Would we give every employee first class?
		No, but it's like, oh man, the amount of time you save.
		If we're gonna fly crew out, and I put them on a commercial jet, and the jet gets delayed, or the baggage gets damaged, we can't set up the show, we're screwed.
		So it's basically like, welcome to the PJ, ladies and gentlemen, because we're all gonna get there on time, we're gonna set the show up, we're gonna build the studio out, it's a lot of work, we're not gonna get any sleep, it's gonna be a little bit more expensive than usual, but we're gonna have a great show and it's gonna matter.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's what it's all about.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		All right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		TRD says, didn't AOC confirm or allude to Capitol personnel aiding protesters in regards to J6 to Alex Stein?
		Play the video.
		Well, we don't have the video pulled up, but you are correct.
unidentified		She did, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		AOC said, why were police helping them?
		Yeah, well, it's an inside job, according to AOC, according to CNN, according to Joe Scarborough.
		So I think it's a case closed.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Alright!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		MonkInTraining says, I'm Jewish.
		Was this tunnel in Brooklyn?
		The Hasidus is there that Rabbi was a dynamic leader and polyglot.
		The idea that he's the Messiah is fringe in the U.S.
		but popular in the Hasidic sect everywhere else on earth.
		Really?
unidentified		Interesting.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's interesting.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But he died, what, 30 years ago?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Uh, yeah, it was the 90s. 94.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Kida says, today Poland president harbored two politicians who were sentenced for two years by SC for corruption.
		They refused to leave the presidential palace.
		After eight hours of standoff, the police finally went in and executed the arrest.
		Very interesting.
		Also, Ecuador's in civil war, I think?
unidentified		Yep.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Crazy.
		A bunch of armed gunmen stormed a TV station?
		Dude.
		Guys.
		I mean, we should have pulled it up, I guess.
		Let's talk about this in the members only.
		Watch these videos.
		About what happens when social order breaks down.
		You're like, I can't believe a bunch of armed gunmen in t-shirts stormed into a television broadcast pointing guns at people.
		It's that quick.
		Humans can do human stuff, man.
		The human rules matter little.
		It's all confidence.
		The rabbi acts as shame as I was literally taught how to read Hebrew in Hebrew school.
		Rabbi was completely unconcerned if we knew what we were reading, just how fast and good sounding it was.
		I can't even read it now.
unidentified		Wow.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		That means he was more concerned than the average public school teacher is with ensuring students can read in English.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's crazy.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		But that's interesting, because that was one thing I always admired.
		One thing that always made me sad is that Catholics stopped teaching their kids to read and speak in Latin.
		I think that's a massive loss.
		I wish I was taught that as a child.
		So I always thought it was cool that Hebrews still did that.
		It's interesting to learn, though, that many of them don't care, because that's one of the three sacred languages, right?
		Latin, Hebrew, and Greek.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Steel Toad says, when an extremely smart individual turns their intellect to activism, they focus that intellect to that desired outcome.
		Positive or nefarious, they will focus on that objective.
		You know, I think there's an important thing to mention when it comes to intelligence.
		When we talk about race and intelligence, there's this like, Liberal offense that's taken by it that people could have different intelligence averages based on their race.
		I think that's stupid because it presupposes that intelligence is better than other characteristics without actually addressing any other characteristics of any other race.
		The assumption there is that intelligence is the most prized attribute of humanity, and I don't think that's correct.
		I certainly think it's fairly obvious when I went to Thailand, and it was on Chinese New Year, and when I went to this big market, you know what I saw?
		Over the heads of every person.
		Because me being 5'10", 5'10 and a half, mind you, the average height in Thailand was lower.
		It was like 5'6", 5'7".
		So when I'm standing there, I'm actually taller than everybody.
		I'm like, wow, this is really interesting.
		Yes, this racial group has a slight difference in their builds.
		I went to Sweden and I was short.
		Even the women are six feet tall in Sweden.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Me too.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But there was this discussion from Sam Harris, I think it was Sam Harris and I think it was a handful of other IDW people talking about, that it's not as extreme as the media might make it seem when making these arguments, but there's likely a genetic component in intelligence as well as every other attribute, but that is not to say that it determines the capabilities of an entire racial group.
		Like, if you argue that Koreans have high IQs, but then you raise this kid in a civil war with no food, yeah, they're gonna be developmentally stunted.
		If you bring anyone from any other country and give them the internet, tutors, wealth, and access, they're gonna be one of the smartest people on the planet.
		I don't think it plays that big a role, but, you know, fun stuff.
		I think we should recognize that there are other attributes human beings have besides intelligence that have value.
		Alright, let's see where we're at.
		Hypebot says, Phil is 100% correct about Michelle Obama.
		The average U.S.
		voter is basically mindless.
		Name recognition is the number one thing.
		Number two is, do I hate this person?
		A far third place is actual policy.
		Well, I agree with that.
		But I just think liberals, and especially like these liberal suburban Democrat moms, are just really racist.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I'm rooting for Tim to be right, by the way.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, let's say this.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Are they racist?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think they are, but I don't think they're aware that they're racist.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		It's not even a question.
		Of course they're... Like, I won't say all of them, but people on the left... I mean, one of the platforms at this point is you have to hate white people.
		So, yes, they're racist.
		But I mean against black people.
		If we want to count, like, soft bigotry of low expectations as racism, absolutely.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And that just means a racist with a guilty conscience.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So, they have a guilty conscience.
		That doesn't mean they're actually going to trust someone to run the country.
		The mentality of these liberal women will probably be something like, You know, I really support the efforts of these poor, underprivileged people, but the right decision for my family will be Donald Trump.
		Because they're racist.
		They would discount a person's candidacy based on race.
		I think that's fairly... I think that's a good bet.
		A good bet.
		Oh, let's go.
		Thomas TJG says, has Phil ever used vocal rest as an excuse to avoid conversations with D-bags?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		On tour?
		Literally every single tour.
		Every single tour since 2007.
		Absolutely.
		Not around here though.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		When we were at TPUSA, they've got music blasting.
		And everyone's trying to talk to me, and I'm just like, I can't talk, because I would have to yell, and I'm going on stage later on to do a show.
		And so, then I shut up, and then they just keep talking at me, and asking me questions, and I'm just nodding, and I'm like, just not saying things.
		I'm like, guys.
		Like, maybe if the music was all the way low, and I could talk in a normal voice, but I'm not gonna yell, because seriously, talking to someone backstage with music blasting super loud for one hour, and then I'm talking like this.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Not interested.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
unidentified		That could be a great excuse, by the way.
unidentified		You know, you encounter some little progressive, and you're like, hey, I just can't.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		No, maybe that's what they want anyway.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Brandon Hawkins says, Tim, next time you make a pot of coffee, put a pinch of salt in the grounds.
		You can thank me later.
		I'll give it a try.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		My aunt told me that.
		But I would always put too much, and it would taste salty.
		But when she did it, it was really good.
		It made it very smooth.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Really?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		If it's bitter coffee, like at a gas station, you need to put a little bit of salt in there.
unidentified		That always makes it not as bitter.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		It's usually if it's overcooked or overheated.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		It really has to be like a tiny bit though.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I tried to get the portions as small as possible and after ruining like two pots, I was like, I'm not.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm hanging out at the casino and the lady walks by and she's like, drinks.
		And I'm like, I will have a coffee with 10 cream and no sugar.
		That's the way you gotta do it, man.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		And you got dirty looks too.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and one guy was like, man, this guy wants a splash of coffee in his cream.
		And I said, look, if they had a heavy whipping cream, I'd ask for coffee with heavy cream.
		But, you know, they don't.
		Personally, as a cream purist, I think that half-and-half is an affront.
		It's offensive.
		Okay?
		You want coffee with cream, you get cream.
		I was in London, and I was having breakfast at a hotel, and I said, uh, I'll have coffee with cream, and they went, um, we'll see what we can do.
		And I was like, okay.
unidentified		Did they bring you clotted cream?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, they brought heavy whipping cream.
unidentified		Oh, nice.
unidentified		Okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And, uh, because they don't have half-and-half.
		No.
		They use milk.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And I was just like, but milk is not fatty.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like, when you want half and half, it's because you want to add fat to your coffee.
unidentified		Exactly.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I just say, look, if you're going to do like two creams, just do one heavy cream.
		Like, it's absurd that you're adding half and half when you can just do a little bit of heavy cream.
		Use real cream.
		You know, what's going on, man?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Endorsed.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Endorsed.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's very, very delicious.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It is very delicious.
		And, uh, let's go.
		Zach Bolden says, the live show isn't showing up on YouTube.
		I had to search for it.
		That's how it's been since Christmas.
		Yeah, we know.
		They suppress us.
		And it's only because fans actively seek the show out that we resist their efforts.
		It is what it is.
		But tomorrow's Town Hall will be live on YouTube.
		And Monday's show, with a live audience, will also be live on YouTube.
		So you don't want to miss it.
		We're having the Town Hall with Vivek.
		It's going to be a podcast-Town Hall hybrid.
		We'll figure that out.
		We're going to discuss with our team exactly how we can run it.
		So it'll be a very, like, open conversation talking about a bunch of ideas.
		Vivek will have a majority of the floor.
		But it's still going to be podcast hybrid style.
		So it's not going to be, you know, like an interviewer saying, tell me about this and then letting him talk.
		It'll be a bit of a back and forth and we'll try and bring in the audience as much as we can.
		And then the 15th is Caucus Day.
		And the caucus begins right on the time we normally go live, 8 p.m., and then we will be live to track the caucus and talk news, and we'll have a rotating panel of guests.
		It'll be a lot of fun.
		We're going to have Don Jr.
		is scheduled to be joining us this week, so he can discuss, obviously, his father's campaign, and we're big fans of Trump.
		I know Phil said he's going to be voting for Vivek.
		We'll see.
		I'm, of course, leaning towards Trump.
		But we'll see how it plays out.
		There's a lot to be said for what's gonna happen.
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		Mayor Staggs, do you want to shout anything out?
unidentified		Yeah, I just want to give a shout out to my family.
		My wife, Alicia, and my two great children, Brendan and Brooklyn.
		They're fantastic.
		They're why I'm doing this.
		You know, they really are.
		We've got to save this country.
		We have to.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		Right on.
		You got a Twitter account anyone can follow?
unidentified		Yeah.
		TrentStaggs.com is the website.
		S-T-A-G-G-S and at Mayor Staggs on X and social media.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		On X, correct.
		Right on.
		Thanks for hanging out.
		Seamus.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		My name's Seamus.
		I run a YouTube channel called Freedom Tunes.
		We make animated cartoons.
		We're going to be releasing one this Thursday.
		I'm happy about it.
		I think a lot of our videos lately have been really fun, so if you guys want to go over there, check it out.
		Subscribe.
		I'm also going to be at the Town Hall event this week.
		Really amped for that, so...
		Thank you all for watching, God bless you, have a wonderful day, and I'll just say, if you want to support me, go to freedomtoons.com, become a member, you'll get extra cartoons that the public doesn't have, only you have, and you'll have a lot of behind-the-scenes content as well.
		We have like over 50 cartoons there at this point, well over that, that are just exclusive to the website, so freedomtoons.com, become a member.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		My name is Phil LaBonte.
		I'm PhilThatRemainsOnX.
		I'm PhilThatRemainsOfficial on Instagram.
		The band is All That Remains.
		You can follow us on, oh, let's see, Spotify, Apple Music, Pandora, Amazon Music, you know, the internet.
unidentified		And I am Serge.com.
		It is not a website.
		That is my moniker.
		It is spelled D-O-T-C-O-M.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		This is a great show.
unidentified		Thank you very much for coming.
		I appreciate it.
		And I am a Utah man I am.
		Again, one more time.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We have a new cat that we caught and we decided to name it Seamus.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And the funniest thing ever is that for the first time Seamus is back in town to meet the cat and he's in the kitchen and little Seamus walks up and Seamus goes, Hey Seamus, I am not calling him that Yeah, the first time I called him that, it felt weird.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		And it's really difficult to have a cat named after you running around.
		It's like, look, when you guys named a chicken after Luke, I was like, that makes sense, right?
		And then they named this cat after me, and I'm like, well, you know... We have a rooster!
		It is what it is, and it's all... But the problem is, it actually causes trouble, because when people say, like, oh, like, Seamus is crapping in the corner, people think it's the cat.
unidentified		Haha!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Alright, everybody, we'll see you all over at TimCast.com.

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