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Dec. 16, 2023 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Timcast IRL - Democrat CAUGHT Filming Gay Adult Film In Senate Room, Video ALL OVER X w/Owen Shroyer
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unidentified
Uh, so I don't know how to say this, so I'll try.
tim pool
Bear with me, if you have children in the room.
Earmuffs!
Okay, so the breaking story is that a Democrat staffer on a Senate hearing room floor filmed himself and another man, let's just say, enjoying each other's company quite a great deal.
And there's video of it all over X. Everyone keeps posting the article because the video is out!
And, uh, everyone's like, well, unsurprising that it's a Maryland Democrat Senate staffer who, uh, I will just, just to, you know, so you understand, filmed he and another man enjoying each other's company quite a great deal.
On the Senate hearing floor.
And that's the story we're leading with because it's Friday and we're ready to laugh.
But I do think it matters because we're going to be talking a lot about January 6th and what's to come in 2024.
And there are a lot of stories about how this is going to go down, considering they just arrested or they're planning to arrest this journalist on Tuesday, Steve Baker.
So it's going to get pretty interesting.
And that, you know, we do have Owen Schroer joining us, who recently got out of prison over this stuff.
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As I mentioned, Owen Schroer is joining us.
owen shroyer
It's great to be here.
A lot better position that I'm in right now than I was a week ago.
tim pool
What's going on?
eric july
Why?
owen shroyer
Well, a week ago I was in prison.
Federal prison.
tim pool
Well, okay then.
Yes.
owen shroyer
Yeah.
tim pool
Right on.
And do you want to just do a quick introduction?
owen shroyer
Well, sure.
You know, I'm one of the most politically persecuted journalists in America.
I don't think it's a stretch to say that.
And I got out of prison last week for a speech crime.
And the last time I was here on TimCast, we were discussing this before we went live, how basically my case was going to be used as a precedent-setting case.
To go after other journalists, and now they are going after other journalists.
There's another one that's going to be turning himself in on Tuesday, and I suspect there's going to be a lot more in 2024.
So my case is eventually likely to get to the Supreme Court, and hopefully we can have success there to stop this political persecution of journalists in Biden's America.
And I'm sure we'll get into some of the details about my case and everything else.
We'll get into that later.
But I would just say that... I'll lead with this.
There's something that I can't get over now.
It's like an itch that can't be scratched.
And I'm not somebody that censors myself.
I don't censor myself.
I'm not afraid to speak my heart.
I'm not afraid to speak my mind.
Just coming on this show, just doing the interviews I've done this week, just hosting my show over at Infowars.
Now, every time I go on air and every time I speak, there's something in the back of my head.
Am I going to go to jail for this?
Am I going to get arrested for this?
Am I going to be incarcerated and tortured and thrown into solitary for this?
And that's what it's like to grow up in...
A communist country.
That's what it's like to grow up in an oppressive regime, and this is what it's like in America now, and it breaks my heart that this is the country that future Americans might grow up in.
That's the thought that has to linger in the back of their mind, like they're living in North Korea, that if they say something wrong, they have bad speak or a thought crime, they're gonna be locked up.
So hopefully we can stop this before it just gets totally out of control.
tim pool
Right on, man.
Should be fun.
Eric July's back.
eric july
What's up?
What's up, man?
What's up?
How you doing?
I mean, I'm done.
This is my third show today, man.
I'm feeling good, too, right?
I know, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm feeling good, though.
unidentified
How are you?
tim pool
What do you do?
eric july
Man, you know, obviously everything's been crazy with this whole Ripperverse thing, man.
Blessed to be in a position that we're in with this company and being able to talk about it freely, man.
And, you know, job opportunities we're creating.
We talked a little bit about that this morning.
tim pool
You launched a comic book universe.
eric july
Yeah, and it's, again, we're on our third million-dollar campaign here, which is kind of insane.
Again, I kind of still got to pinch myself every day, kind of realizing that this is a real thing, this is happening.
But it shows there's a demand for it, man, but it does feel good to be back here.
I hadn't had a chance, been busy, but it feels good to be back.
tim pool
Yeah, we had you over on the Culture War this morning, but now we're going to talk news, so thanks for hanging out.
It should be fun as well, and of course, Lucas here.
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unidentified
Thanks guys for tuning in.
Excited for the Friday show.
tim pool
Let's get to it.
unidentified
It's kind of crazy.
tim pool
Here we are.
This is the news.
Senate staffer caught filming gay sex tape in Senate hearing room.
Graphic.
The image is blurred.
Heavily.
eric july
Thank God.
tim pool
But it's not blurred all over.
The whole image!
unidentified
The whole image is blurred!
ian crossland
Not quite blurred enough.
tim pool
So, uh, they know who this guy is now.
His name is flying all over the place.
owen shroyer
There's... That wasn't everything flying all over the place.
tim pool
Dude, the Daily Caller posted the video of it.
luke rudkowski
Like, it's... It's everywhere on social media.
tim pool
This guy needs to get, like, I don't know, man, 20 years.
Like, you know, we're talking about they want to lock up Enrique Tarrio.
He wasn't even in D.C.
on January 6th.
And I'm like, this is a guy who probably broke so many laws.
He's got to get locked up.
It's not just him.
It's two guys.
And they're enjoying each other's company quite a great deal, if you know what I'm saying.
I'm filming it in the Senate hearing room.
ian crossland
I'm not, like, bullish on law on lawfare and warfare through law.
But, like, at some point, you got to make a precedent.
Don't do this kind of thing on the Senate hearing floor.
tim pool
I just, guys, when I said 2024 was going to be crazy, I did not see this one coming.
I thought it was going to be like a journalist gets woken up at six in the morning and they're like... Did not see this one coming.
owen shroyer
You're just asking.
You just got puns left and right tonight, man.
ian crossland
Did they set up a camera and then like go get in the middle of the room and get it on or something?
tim pool
No, like one of the guys I guess has a See, you know, everybody's getting mad at me, because I'm on X, and I'm like, is the guy you're naming the dude being filmed, or the dude doing the deed?
luke rudkowski
Tim really cares about the details here, I just want to point that out.
tim pool
And I do care, I do care.
So, I did watch the video.
unidentified
On slow motion, rewinded it back and forth.
tim pool
You know, not that much Luke, you know, you can calm down, I don't know what you were watching.
But, listen.
I've seen videos of people brutally murdered.
I have watched people die in front of me.
That's probably hyperbolic.
I've watched people die a great distance away from me, from a height.
I don't want to make it seem like I was standing in front of a guy who died.
I've been shot at.
So when this news breaks, that a Democrat staffer, there's two guys, and they're going at it, and then I see a bunch of people saying, this is the guy.
I'm like, hold on.
They said this guy filmed himself doing this thing, and I'm like, How do you know that's actually him?
owen shroyer
It was an older guy, too, right?
tim pool
No, no, it's a young guy.
owen shroyer
It was a younger guy?
tim pool
It's a young guy.
So here's the issue.
So I half-jokingly tweeted, but half-seriously, I'm not going to say exactly what I said because it was graphic, but I responded to Greg, was it Greg Price, I think?
I said, he said, here's the guy who did it.
I said, is he the guy who's getting or the guy giving?
And everyone's like, haha.
Oh, I'm like, no, this matters because the dude, the dude doing the deed is wearing some kind of like head mounted camera.
So you can't see his face.
And the issue is, if they've gotten information through other means outside of the video that the guy filming, which they said this guy filmed himself doing it, that's implying the guy whose face you can't see is doing it, and the guy whose face you can't see is not him, that means there's another unidentified guy.
And I'm like, the last thing I'm gonna do is call a guy out on a show like this as having You know, and join another man's company in a public building, unless I know for sure that's the case.
owen shroyer
But wait a second, so there's a couple interesting facts that you just laid out.
So this person had a head-mounted camera deal?
tim pool
I think that's what it was.
eric july
Hustle on a GoPro, get a GoPro.
owen shroyer
So, I mean, likely not the first time this individual has done it, maybe in the building, but don't you need, you have to have a special pass to get access to that part of the building too, so it had to be another staffer of somebody.
tim pool
Well, they could let him in.
luke rudkowski
A lot of people on social media are saying that this was the real insurrection that has happened.
tim pool
I tweet insurrection.
luke rudkowski
Insurrection's trending, I think, right now.
tim pool
Schumer saying erection.
Inside of the erection is trending as well.
owen shroyer
I'm guessing these are not the first two men to, you know, insert in the exit hole in any of the Capitol buildings, but they might be the first to film it?
tim pool
Probably not even.
luke rudkowski
And if you're filming it, you kind of want to get caught, right?
tim pool
No, look, so I guess they were sharing it on various websites, like, ha ha ha, and it's kind of insane.
Look, guys, can I just jump the shark right now and say Civil War, just because?
Because I'm like, if we're at the point where staffers of the Senate care so little about this country, they treat our government buildings like porn sets.
I just don't see anyone having enough confidence in this government to maintain it.
ian crossland
I don't think that necessarily sexual debauchery is enough to claim, like, you know, conflict.
Because I was actually talking to Ashley Sinclair about it yesterday.
She used to work down there.
She's like, it's just non-stop, like, debauchery.
owen shroyer
But you know what, I think that your philosophical angle is right here, Tim.
What it shows is the lack of respect, the lack of concern, the lack of care.
The overall clown show that it really is.
There's no reverence, right?
I mean, it's the same thing with Jill Biden's Christmas video.
There's no class, there's no reverence, it's just a clown show.
It's just, let's just clown show this up.
We don't care about the country.
We don't respect the country.
We don't revere the country.
We don't revere these buildings.
I mean, I typically would kind of stand where you are, Ian.
And in fact, I would say even after my prison sentence, I'm even more for prison reform and justice reform.
Empty the prisons at this point.
But I understand where you're going philosophically.
I wouldn't be surprised though, if with the aftermath of this, we don't start to see more videos start to surface.
luke rudkowski
Yeah.
I have a different take.
I kind of don't care what these guys screwing each other because the government screws us every single day, right?
Seriously, you look at the surveillance secret FBI FISA bills that they just passed.
You look at the NDAA.
You look at the funding that they're probably going to be giving Israel and Ukraine very soon as, of course, the average American is being fleeced and destroyed financially.
I don't care what these two dudes did.
This is not a place to be respected.
This is a place that has been hijacked.
By sociopathic corporatists and globalists that are using it as a machine to screw over their American people, and you're the one getting family-friendly show here.
tim pool
Yes, but that stuff's been going on, and the only reason these two guys are willing to do this is because they don't take our government seriously.
Why?
For every reason you just explained.
People are, these guys are like, oh, this government's a joke.
They rip people off, they blow kids up, nobody takes it seriously, then they go off on the Senate hearing floor and they... No, they've just made a meme.
owen shroyer
You've just made a meme.
Put the guy who's facing away, and you put the American public... American taxpayer, and then the person doing the... Come on, do it right now!
luke rudkowski
My team, my team, you're watching, get on it.
owen shroyer
Get on it.
luke rudkowski
That's it though, but that really is... Making a t-shirt on thebestpoliticalshares.com right now.
owen shroyer
That is a much more offensive thing.
That is a much more offensive thing.
Oh, you don't want FISA?
Oh, you don't want funding for Ukraine?
Well, we'll just go ahead and slip it into the NDAA and you're gonna get it anyway.
tim pool
I gotta be honest, it's actually...
The most disgusting meme gift ever in that in a government building, Democrat staffers did this, because now you can put any group.
You can put FBI on the guy and J6ers on the other guy.
luke rudkowski
There's a reason there's a sex position called the taxpayer, OK?
All right.
They were utilizing it.
owen shroyer
You've just hit the infinity meme stone.
luke rudkowski
Seriously, the shirt's coming soon.
owen shroyer
Memefinity stone.
tim pool
Yeah, you could put Joe Biden on one guy and US economy on the other guy.
luke rudkowski
Oh, yeah.
We're on it.
eric july
We're on it.
Don't post that shit on my timeline.
unidentified
Here we go.
luke rudkowski
It's everywhere.
tim pool
Here we go.
eric july
Please, man.
owen shroyer
Make sure you tweet this at Eric July.
eric july
No.
unidentified
Now.
eric july
Nah, but we just set the wolves.
I know, right?
It's gonna be crazy.
owen shroyer
I just set myself up, man.
eric july
No, but on a serious note, I think it's more so representative of the institution.
Even when this whole J6 thing happened, I don't pretend like the Congress isn't a band full of criminals.
And I get it. You know, we, we, people, we have this idealistic way of looking at government and it's
supposed to, they're sacred and their buildings are something that is
supposed to be cherished and respected. But I don't see them that way. You
know, I haven't seen them that way for a very long time,
but I think this is more to your point representative of the fact that it
absolutely is a clown show.
But I think people seeing it that way and taking it for what it actually is.
I don't necessarily see that as a negative, negative thing.
I do believe that more people should look at the Senate or the house and
Congress just in general, uh, with, with more content where you really truly understand the
type of things it is that they are absolutely doing. So they a hundred percent
are a band full of criminals, which is why I'm not.
I'm not at all tripping off of that.
owen shroyer
So is it like a good thing that people will see this then?
eric july
That's the way that I see it.
I mean, if you look at it and you're like, look, this is a joke.
This is a joke of an institution.
It is!
I would agree with you.
It absolutely 100% is a joke of an institution.
It's a place where people try to weaponize things and the power it is that they have against their political enemies.
It's not anything to be taken seriously.
like that at all. So yeah, while, you know, to your point, it's probably all sorts of weird stuff that does happen
there day to day that we don't ever see.
It probably is a bunch of debauchery and degeneracy in there anyway.
luke rudkowski
First point, it was that Eric D. July, correct? Got it.
Second point...
Clarify.
I just wanted to clarify for the record.
Second point I wanted to make here.
This is nothing new.
Look at what they do at the Bohemian Grove.
There's literal secret societies.
There's literally a brino bruvimage.
There's literal, like, parties and secret things that they do that we can't even mention here on this family-friendly broadcast.
There's an island that they bring children to.
So for me, Hunter Biden and this latest revelation is the least offensive thing that is happening in Washington, D.C.
What's worse, Jeffrey Toobin or these I mean, Tubin has the meme magic with his name already in there, but I don't think you can even compare.
The Epstein story, way bigger of a real issue that I think we should be outraged about.
We should be showing videos of Bill Clinton getting on the Lolita Express.
We should be showing Bill Gates and all these other individuals connected going to that private island.
That should be the big controversy.
owen shroyer
Everyone in this room has done more jail time than any of Epstein's clients.
luke rudkowski
Exactly.
tim pool
Wow, that's actually pretty crazy.
Wait, hold on, hold on.
Uh, Ian, have you ever been in jail?
ian crossland
Negative.
tim pool
Oh, okay.
All right.
Well, Eric, have you?
ian crossland
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
Obviously, you were just there.
owen shroyer
I was kind of making the joke like I was probably the only one, but it would still equate to it.
tim pool
The longest I've been in jail was like 14 hours or something.
Luke, I know for sure.
And then, you know, so I think Ian's the only one here.
ian crossland
The gruesomely straight edge character.
owen shroyer
Say Joe Biden lost the 2020 election.
ian crossland
Did he?
owen shroyer
Just saying.
You're giving me a free pass.
ian crossland
I'm saying you can join us.
owen shroyer
You can join us on the other side.
luke rudkowski
It's a right of passage Ian.
It's a right of passage.
owen shroyer
Donald Trump won in 2020 and they're going to come get you.
I mean, they know where you live, Tim.
We know that.
tim pool
I just went because they locked me up for skateboarding for like overnight.
Luke, I remember, where were you?
You were in Europe or something, right?
luke rudkowski
There was like eight times.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah.
luke rudkowski
Seven, excuse me, seven times.
But it was all, like, it was all regarding my journalism.
ian crossland
I grew up really straight edge, like, follow the rules, follow order, like my dad was in the fire department.
tim pool
What does that have to do with anything?
My dad was in the fire department too.
ian crossland
And then, like, but later I started to learn, like, the appreciation of, like, if evil laws are passed, like what the Nazis did, you kind of, like, Jeff Thomas Jefferson would say, you kind of have a right to, like, ignore those laws or, like, If the government becomes evil, you're supposed to be like, well, okay, law isn't everything.
owen shroyer
Actually, the Constitution, if you read the Constitution, it says if the lawmakers get out of control, you actually have a duty to get them out of government.
It's actually a duty in the Constitution, if our government becomes corrupted, that we have to do something about it.
tim pool
But Ian, I've never been convicted of anything, but I got arrested while I was skateboarding, they gave me some bogus charge, and then I spent half a day in jail.
You've never had anything where you're, wow, look at that.
owen shroyer
So not even detained?
Back of a cop car?
luke rudkowski
No handcuffs?
ian crossland
Oh yeah, one time my buddy had a joint in the car and he was driving and the cops pulled us over.
tim pool
More than Epstein's clients.
ian crossland
A block away from my house.
Yeah, he's in it!
So we got out of the car.
We were only a block away from Aston.
I was like, where do you live?
He was like, right there.
And they were like, okay, get out of here.
I was just sleeping in the back seat.
tim pool
Okay, to clarify, the extent of Ian's incarceration is, a friend who was driving a car he was in was stopped briefly, and he was let go.
And that is more time served than any of Epstein's clients.
ian crossland
Hypothetically, yeah.
tim pool
No, literally!
ian crossland
There's no way to know.
Some of those clients might have been dirty, dirty criminals, and we wouldn't know.
tim pool
But for being, let's say this, it's more than any of them have served for the crime of being a client of Epstein.
ian crossland
Yes, because that would be zero as far as we know.
tim pool
Yeah, exactly.
Because maybe like one of the clients beat a woman and got arrested later on.
I'm not saying that.
ian crossland
You know what this story made me think of when the two dudes getting it on in the Senate is like the power that one guy has to totally transform the public conversation now.
Like one guy with a video camera can Like, bang another guy, and then everyone's talking about it.
unidentified
And that's it!
ian crossland
Like, 30 years ago, you had to go through NBC News.
Like, these videos couldn't even get out anywhere unless someone at a news organization was like, well, yes or no.
tim pool
Yeah, this guy would go to NBC and say, please air this tape on your show, and they'd be like, no, we're not doing that.
ian crossland
And then they'd have to have Polaroids, they'd go, or maybe they had a big Handycam that wouldn't fit on the guy's head, so they'd have to have a third guy taking the video.
owen shroyer
So wait, are you saying that Joe Biden put him up to this to get all the negative press about Joe Biden out of the media?
ian crossland
Wow, that's an interesting concept.
To kind of be like, hey, what Hunter is doing?
Well, there's other people that also do this.
tim pool
No, it's not just that.
I gotta be honest.
If it came out, I'm not saying that this is true.
I'm saying, if the news came out that this guy was put up to it, I'd believe it.
I'd be like, oh wow.
Like, they're like, oh, the Democratic administration knew a ton of press was coming out on Hunter Biden.
He'd divide a subpoena.
Joe Biden was defending him.
And, you know, all these hookers.
Eight hundred and something thousand dollars now, I think the number is, in prostitutes.
Let's get a guy out there.
owen shroyer
That's a lot of hookers.
tim pool
It's crazy, right?
ian crossland
Well, one really lucky one.
tim pool
No, I just saw the headline.
Or one really.
owen shroyer
We know it's more than one.
luke rudkowski
Prostitutes are a big part of Washington DC.
There's a New York Post story detailing how they're shipped into the Bohemian Grove, male prostitutes specifically.
And there's also a very famous story from the Bush years where George W. Bush got caught sneaking in a gay porn star into the White House.
That was another major saga and scandal that kind of got swept under the rug.
So this is now what we're seeing finally happening.
Happens all the time.
It's only outrageous because we have video of it now.
ian crossland
I think Late Stage Empire, Roman Empire, they said part of a Late Stage Empire is sexual debauchery.
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
Yep.
owen shroyer
Did this video break because of Twitter or X?
luke rudkowski
I think the Daily Caller broke it.
tim pool
The Daily Caller got the exclusive, but all of a sudden everyone's X timeline is just flooded.
owen shroyer
That's where I saw it on X. You can see it.
Yeah.
tim pool
The video's everywhere.
owen shroyer
And it was not censored when it came across my timeline.
unidentified
I'm like trying to avoid it, I'm weaving through it, man.
Now it's overload.
eric july
I'm not even going to bother to try to look at my timeline now because I know it's going to be extremely bad.
owen shroyer
But see, that's why Twitter or X is so important though, not so you can watch this debauchery, but maybe this is the kind of stuff they can censor and hide for the people they want to protect.
But thank goodness Elon Musk is at least allowing, I would say, 95% free speech on his platform.
ian crossland
Yeah, I err on the side of allowing it, although it is, it is, it can like wreck your brain to see it.
You think it should have been censored or at least blacked out in like a black box, like click here if you want to see it.
tim pool
I'm pretty sure they're going to do that because it just takes time for the algorithm to kick in and then catch this stuff.
But my position has been, if Elon Musk allows 13-year-olds on the platform, then all porn must be banned.
owen shroyer
Oh, I agree.
Porn should not be on X. It's everywhere, though.
tim pool
Even this.
Even newsworthy videos like this should not be allowed if there are young... It should be... I mean, YouTube does this, and sometimes they get it wrong, and that sucks, but I respect it.
They will age-lock a video.
And then people complain, being like, why is my video being age-restricted?
Oh, it's not fair.
And sometimes it's not fair.
But the challenge is, how do you allow people to upload whatever they want while preventing people from uploading things that are illegal?
So, what YouTube does with the age restriction stuff is, if someone posts this video of these staffers on YouTube, yeah, it should be age restricted.
Now, here's the problem.
Kids just lie.
They just sign up and claim to be 18.
We should not allow people to give these materials to kids.
I'm sorry, I just, like, you couldn't do it on TV.
I don't understand how it became normal to be like, You know, we were talking to, um, I think I was talking to Stephen Marsh, the guy who wrote the Civil War book, and he's like, oh, these kids can get it on the internet, so who cares, just let them get these books in school anyway.
And I'm like, they should not get it on the internet either.
Yeah, that's like- But the mentality of many liberals is, because of the internet, we should just give kids these books, and I'm like, no.
ian crossland
Yeah, I had a friend that would be like, if you're gonna be late, dude, who cares?
Just be as late as you- you're already late, just be an hour late.
I'm like, that's not how it works, dude.
If I'm five minutes late, that's way less worse than being an hour late.
It's the same with porn on the internet.
Like, as little as possible.
owen shroyer
And I feel like that's like the bottom-of-the-hill argument.
Like, oh, they're gonna find it anyway, so let's put it in the classroom.
Like, what?
Oh, you're gonna- you're gonna die anyway, so I'm just gonna stab you now!
It's just like, it doesn't even make any sense.
But don't you think- I mean, I think, I mean, I do think Twitter should do everything, because YouTube, I don't think you can find any adult or pornographic content on YouTube.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, you can't.
owen shroyer
So it's not that good either?
luke rudkowski
There's a congressional, there's a very similar video to the congressional video that's going viral right now on social media that's up on YouTube, that YouTube is standing behind and argued that it is, what was it, artistic work, but it's a family-friendly show here.
owen shroyer
I thought that was the Twitch platform.
luke rudkowski
It was a dude guessing what's being There's ways around that.
How do I even describe this?
I don't want to get the show in trouble.
ian crossland
With your eyes.
Just look at the camera and they'll know.
owen shroyer
See, I like that.
I think that's a fair argument.
I forget who... it might have even come across in a courtroom.
They were debating, you know, what's pornography or what's like artistic content and someone said, When I see it, I know.
tim pool
The judge said you know it when you see it.
owen shroyer
Yeah, and I think, you know, it's a little open-ended, but I would say if the same effort they put into Twitter banning conservatives, or banning Alex Jones or myself or others, if they put that same effort into stopping the pornographic content, I would think they could at least limit it.
ian crossland
I had, on Wednesday, they use AI now, and I interviewed Dickie Barrett, the video got demonetized, right?
I was like, what, we didn't even say it?
Because his name was Dickie.
Yeah, of course it is.
tim pool
My Boston's guy.
ian crossland
I am.
owen shroyer
Oh, really?
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
I went to the monetization.
I was like, well, I request a human review and they immediately overturned it.
They're like, yeah, it's fine.
But the word Dickie caught the A.I.' 's attention.
owen shroyer
Oh, wow.
ian crossland
So that's it's a little heavy handed, but it's better than, I guess, no moderation.
tim pool
Well, so like the issue is when they use it for political censorship, not cool.
But if someone's trying to put up videos of these staffers, you know, doing a deed, we don't want kids finding that stuff.
So there's gotta be some way to deal with this.
I'm sorry, I don't know.
And there's a lot of people, the more libertarians don't like it, they're like, oh, Tim's for censorship, and this is gonna lead to a whole bunch of problems.
I'm like, bro, I don't believe that because a technology got invented, we all of a sudden throw out the rules where we're like, kids aren't allowed to be, you can't solicit adult materials to children.
Like, you can't do it.
Just because the internet got invented doesn't mean you can do it now.
owen shroyer
So, how do you find the balance?
Because when I was watching, when the video popped up on my timeline, I mean, you can't really see much.
I mean, if you're an adult, you know what you're looking at, and I obviously wouldn't like that to be... You can see everything.
I wouldn't want my kids to see.
Well, see, I must not have seen the whole video.
I mean, I didn't watch it.
I saw it, and I was like, oh, okay, I don't know what that is.
tim pool
Dude, the dude filming is, like, looking around.
owen shroyer
Oh, really?
Okay, well, I didn't go that deep into it.
No pun intended.
No pun intended.
tim pool
You know, I watched it for the people.
unidentified
You took one for the team!
tim pool
So that I could report back, and they would not have to.
owen shroyer
But it is newsworthy, though.
I mean, that's the thing, like, that is a news story, and you were doing, I mean, you're doing, you're doing show prep.
tim pool
I gotta be honest, man, like, I've watched videos of people being shot and murdered and killed.
I watched a video of a guy getting struck by lightning twice, Phil Labonte posted that.
I've watched videos of people being hit by trains.
Like, if I'm gonna try and understand what's going on, and there's a news story, and it's relevant, I'm watching the video.
owen shroyer
But did you watch it on Twitter?
tim pool
The video?
owen shroyer
Yeah.
tim pool
I think I watched it on the Daily Caller.
owen shroyer
Okay.
Because I'm saying, how are you gonna watch it?
That's tough, because I feel like, Maybe you kind of just let it go for a little period of time just so people can see it and then you say okay we got to make sure this doesn't go up because it is a newsworthy story and I mean people people want to know that this is what your people in government are doing.
ian crossland
Yeah but I see what your point like if it happens again tomorrow is that one newsworthy too?
Do we need to look at that one as well and then the day after are we supposed to look at that one too and like what are we looking at now?
tim pool
People are making tons of memes of this video.
owen shroyer
There we go.
That's what I'm talking about.
ian crossland
I think the answer of what they're looking at is AI.
They're going to use artificial intelligence to try and preempt it and censor it before it gets out.
But the problem with that is, like, then are elbows too sexual?
Like, where does the line get drawn?
It's with whoever's in power writing the code of the AI.
Is someone showing someone neck skin?
Is that too sexual?
Cleavage?
You know, a round butt with pants on?
luke rudkowski
Cankles?
ian crossland
Yeah, exactly.
owen shroyer
How low will you go?
tim pool
I think one of the issues is, when it comes to this level of censorship, the issue is always, if X is allowed, then Y must be allowed too.
Instead of, if X is allowed, have we considered it should not be?
For example, Like, right now this is a big thing where people will print out male nipples, women will print out a picture of male nipples, and then stick them to their nipples, and then pose a topless photo and be like, male nipples are a lot on Instagram, but females aren't, so we're just showing male nipples, and you can't really tell, and they're like, aha!
The argument they're making is, well then, it should be allowed for all women to go completely topless on social media, instead of being like, okay, dudes gotta wear shirts too.
owen shroyer
See, but now we're getting into this level of, we're just not behaving like adults, right?
I mean, there needs to be some level of an adult conversation here.
It's like, yeah, we know what you're doing, that's funny, you're not gonna do it.
Not like, oh, I found the loophole, give me a break.
ian crossland
What do you guys think about the Free the Nipple campaign?
Are you familiar with it?
owen shroyer
Is that when the ladies run around naked and everything?
ian crossland
You're basically topless in New York City.
Because it used to be that guys had to wear shirts in public until like the 1920s.
tim pool
Guys gotta wear shirts!
ian crossland
They had to get the right legally to be able to go topless in public and now it's totally normalized.
tim pool
Instead of saying, women should be able to be topless too, how about we go... See, this is what I'm talking about.
Women are saying, men cannot wear shirts, therefore women should be allowed to do it as well.
How about we do the inverse and say, women aren't allowed to wear shirts, aren't allowed to be topless, then men shouldn't be allowed either.
Why not say, okay, everybody gotta wear a shirt, nobody topless anymore.
How come it always goes in the one direction of closer and closer to debauchery?
owen shroyer
Well, I think it's obvious why women can't walk around topless and men can.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, there'll be car accidents.
unidentified
We're all adults here.
luke rudkowski
I wouldn't be able to get anything done.
owen shroyer
We're all adults here.
We know why women and, you know, the mammary gland is a little more distracting than the male chesticles.
But it gets into petty stuff.
It's like, oh, well, if the man can do it, then why can't the woman?
You know why the woman can't.
It's a different body.
It's a different body part.
It's a different sexual arousal.
ian crossland
Yeah, we're more than just brains.
Humans are more than just brains.
We can't just logic our way through everything.
tim pool
But in most states, it is legal for a woman to be topless.
owen shroyer
I mean, I would say, as a very heterosexual man, the concept of women walking around topless sounds great, but then you see these monsters, you see these whales that are engaging in the Free the Nipple campaign?
Shut it down.
So what happens in New York is... Yes, I'm discriminating, yes.
tim pool
There are morbidly obese women who do it, and police officers are like, ma'am, you need to cover up, and they go, no I don't.
And then when they get cited or charged, they'll ensue the city and instantly win.
owen shroyer
Really?
They win!
tim pool
Of course, of course.
It is sex-based discrimination to say that women can't be topless if a man can.
And so my argument is, no, no, no, it's real simple.
Just tell the guys they gotta wear shirts, too.
ian crossland
Problem solved.
But also, like, bikini bottoms, like those really, really, like, G-string bathing suit bottoms, like, it doesn't, you don't have to be Brazilian to wear a Brazilian bikini.
tim pool
It leaves nothing to the imagination.
It's just like, they're basically walking around naked.
ian crossland
But because there's a piece of thread in the button, it's fine.
tim pool
Now they have these, like, pieces of plastic that are moldable that women just click, like, you know what I mean?
There's not even straps.
And it's just like, okay, we get it.
The future's gonna be people put duct tape on their junk.
And that's it.
ian crossland
Nudity is different than sex, that's for sure.
Like, nudity is a very different thing than sexual.
tim pool
Let's flip back over to the government is corrupt part instead of the debauchery part, because we have this story from the Daily Mail.
Rudy Giuliani has to pay Georgia election workers $148 million for accusing them of helping steal the 2020 race.
America's mayor faces financial ruin over huge damages and defamation case.
Like, how is $148 million reasonable?
They're saying it's 75 in punitive damages, 20 each for emotional distress, 16 for Freeman, 17 for Moss for damage to their reputations.
You kidding me?
Man, I get defamed every single day and I can't get a single penny out of these people.
owen shroyer
You ever heard of any of these people, by the way?
unidentified
No.
owen shroyer
Of course not.
You know, this is sadly how this goes, and Giuliani's not going to be the last person.
And I talked to some of Trump's lawyers about this, too, because people They don't seem to understand the true nature of the political world that we exist in until they reach certain levels, right?
And so, when they came after InfoWars for censorship, and I mean, what was the number they hit Alex with?
Like, oh, we're suing Alex for three trillion dollars!
tim pool
Yeah, it was the GDP of France.
ian crossland
1.6 billion or something?
tim pool
No, no, no, no, no.
They wanted the GDP of France.
owen shroyer
It was a trillion dollars, and they had some formula that they worked this up.
But my point is this.
tim pool
Yeah, it was three trillion.
owen shroyer
I told some of this to Trump's lawyers, because they don't seem to get it.
And they're like, oh, well, this is great that we get to go to court now, because now we're going to get to show the evidence and prove our case.
No, you're not.
The judge is going to shut you down, not let you show any evidence, and just rule against you.
And they say, well, that's not how the legal system works.
OK, fine.
Find out the hard way for yourself.
And now Trump's lawyers are fine with that.
They think, we're going to present all this evidence to the court.
And now they're like, no, you can't present any of that evidence.
tim pool
Three trillion dollars were the penalties that Jones was facing.
That is more than the GDP of France.
owen shroyer
So my point is that this is, it's rare error, or it used to be rare error, for you to get these rulings and these court cases against you.
It's going to become ever more present now, just like with censorship.
They test it on one person and then they go after everybody else.
Rudy Giuliani will not be the last person that gets hundred million dollar judgments against him.
Other Trump attorneys will get it.
Other Trump associates will get it.
And they're just never going to stop.
The justice system is completely out of control.
I don't think people have really, they haven't grasped just how corrupted and out of control it is.
And unfortunately, it's going to have to hit them just like with Trump's lawyers.
Oh, we'll present the evidence.
And it will.
tim pool
It absolutely will, because I've been saying this for a long time.
There are so many people who think if I just turn my lights off and hide under the covers, the angry mob that's going door-to-door smashing everything will skip over my house.
No, it won't.
So, here's a guy sitting in front of me, Owen, who yelled some things on a bullhorn, and they literally used that in sentencing documents.
owen shroyer
The speech you made... Tell them my dirty speech, Tim.
Tell them my dirty speech.
tim pool
Well, it was not just what you said on the grounds, it was what you said later on on your show.
owen shroyer
And before, too.
tim pool
And before.
That had nothing to do with what happened that day, and I believe, correct me if I'm wrong, you guys had a permit for the protest.
owen shroyer
Yeah, we had a stage that was back behind, I think it was on the northeast side of the Capitol.
We had a stage set up.
We were going to be speaking.
I was one of the speakers.
There were other big speakers that were going to be a part of that.
And we were going from the ellipsis from Trump's speech.
To our speaking stage.
That was our route.
And when we saw all the chaos at the Capitol, we said, hey, we got to stop this.
So we got on horns to try to stop it.
That's all on video.
We talked to the Capitol police and said, hey, what can we do?
We want to work with you to try to stop this.
That's all on video as well.
The government even acknowledges this in their sentencing memo against me that I didn't go in and that I did try to stop it.
And I did say we were there to be peaceful, but the higher ups said, no, you're still going to make an example out of Schroer.
But, you know, I think We can get into my personal case, Tim, if we want, but here's the larger picture that needs to be understood, and this goes beyond just the realm of the political world.
There is no incentive for justice in our justice system whatsoever.
The incentive from the U.S.
attorneys and the prosecuting attorneys is convictions.
That's their incentive.
They overcharge you drastically, hoping or assuming they're going to get a plea out of you, which most of the time they do, so they keep their conviction rates high.
98, 99, 100% so they think they can get a better job, climb the ladder.
Their incentive is convictions, not justice.
Then you have the bench, the judge.
Their incentive is imprisonment.
Gotta fill the prisons.
Gotta prove you're going to put the bad guys away.
Justice never comes into the frame here.
Justice is never even entering into the conversation.
And let me tell you, from somebody who's been there, there's three tables here.
There's the judge's bench, there's the prosecuting attorney, and then there's you.
And until you've sat in that corner, and you've witnessed this be done to you, and you've sat there and watched a judge and a prosecuting attorney sit there and never even consider justice, The feeling of loneliness and isolation when you realize there is no justice here.
Justice was never the concern.
The concern from the attorneys was conviction and the concern from the judge was imprisonment.
You never had a shot.
There is no justice in the justice system anymore.
I don't know what can be done about this.
I mean, something has to change.
tim pool
The first thing we need to consider is Donald Trump being elected next year, and then we'll see how things go.
ian crossland
When did things change in the justice system?
Are you guys familiar with change?
It's been pretty corrupt for a very long time.
eric july
It's been like that forever.
Probably our whole lives.
unidentified
100%.
eric july
That's been what it is.
I think it's just more blatant in that You know, look, the left plays to win.
I make this point all the time, and this is, I think, why they're able to get the dubs it is that they're able to get, because they rely upon the people on the other side, even if it's, like, whether they're center or the right or whatever it is that you want to call them.
Where you still kind of have some sort of belief, some sort of, there's some sanctity in sort of these institutions, whether it be from the police officers on up to the prosecution.
It's like, this is the way we do thing.
And at the end of the day, um, morals will prevail.
Um, justice will prevail.
And that's just not, that's to be fair, has never been the reality.
Obviously you being in a, in a situation, it is that you, you've been, you've seen it sort of firsthand.
It's like, Nobody's coming to save me, and all of these guys are against me.
Like, the system is literally rigged against you, and especially when you're dealing with emoral people that have absolutely no problem with weaponizing that institution against you.
owen shroyer
It's a soulless thing.
It's like they're soulless.
eric july
It's a very difficult, like, enemy to fight.
I always use this analogy.
People that watch me know I use this all the time.
It's like, you're going into a boxing ring, right?
And you're entering it in, and that...
The person on the opposite side of you that you're supposed to be fighting 1v1 has already told you, look, my gloves are loaded, I bought off the judges, I bought off the ref, and I'm about to cheat.
And what the instinct of the non-leftists is to still go into it with fairness because we look at it like, well, this is how we're supposed to act.
We don't want to be like the enemy.
The problem is is that the enemy has no problem kicking you in, in, in the,
you know, midsection, they have no issues with doing that.
So that's a harsh reality that we all kind of have to have to face.
But I think once more people realize that we can actually start to come up with
some sort of solution and some sort of plan of attack of attack,
but people need to realize that this is how the justice system is aligned.
This is the way that it is sort of rigged, um, against you from the prosecution on up and on, on down.
It's not there to serve justice.
It's not there to sort of reach some sort of conclusion that is supposed to be
the, the just one. That's not the way that it is designed.
owen shroyer
Well, this is why I think Vivek Ramaswamy's campaign is actually
the most important campaign right now, even more so than Donald Trump's,
because You know, the right wing has always had this weird, and it kind of deals with they want to support law enforcement, but supporting law enforcement or police and wanting justice, you know, reform, justice system reform and prison reform need to be two completely separate issues.
They need to be two completely separate issues and conservatives need to get this.
And that's why Vivek Ramaswamy really going hard against the federal establishment is so important because this is a winning issue.
And what conservatives need to realize is that justice reform is a winning issue.
You will win.
I mean, I don't want to get too politically wonky here, but it's an issue that they've let the left dominate, they've let the Democrats dominate for so long, and it's time for them to get in there.
And Vivek, I think, presents it really well.
And I mean, I still suspect Donald Trump gets the nomination.
If he wins, I hope he makes Vivek in charge of some special committee or something to just completely abolish like 95% of these federal institutions that are so corrupted.
Conservatives and Republican politicians need to stop being afraid of their own shadow.
You know you're the side of law enforcement, that's fine.
But justice reform and prison reform are completely separate issues and it's a winning issue.
You will win a lot of votes if you can properly verbalize and vocalize how you will attack these issues.
I think like Vivek Ramaswamy has done.
ian crossland
What kind of prison reform do you suggest?
owen shroyer
Well, I'll put it to you like this, because it's very complex, and I could go on forever based off what I've learned from the top to the bottom here, but I'll try to put it simply.
When I was in prison, the Bureau of Prisons had a hearing in front of Congress where my name got brought up by Matt Gaetz, thank goodness.
And they were asking for $2 billion.
So they want $2 billion more because they have staff problems and they have infrastructure problems.
And believe me, they do.
I'm showering in showers that have black mold in them.
I'm dealing with staff in the prisons that, I mean, they lost like $2,000 worth of my property.
I mean, I can go on and on and on.
So the issues are real.
But we all know if they put two thousand, excuse me, two billion dollars more into the Bureau of Prisons, do you think that's going to improve a damn thing?
No, it's not going to improve a damn thing.
So what needs to be done, if they need two billion more dollars annually, what they need to do is a little math, find out what annually, how many prisoners annually equals to two billion dollars and release them all tomorrow.
Release every single one of them all tomorrow.
There should not be a single non-violent criminal in prison.
That's our problem here, and maybe that's kind of the springboard for the political argument, if any Republican has the courage to do it, like Vivek.
The springboard needs to be, no non-violent criminals belong in jail.
I mean, really, you can have house arrest, you can have the ankle monitor.
I mean, I would say it like this, because people always ask, well, what is it like in there?
What is it like in there?
We'll do a little Kamala Harris Venn diagram.
I would say, take a Venn diagram, three circles.
You've got a daycare center right here.
You've got an old folks home right here.
And then you've got a concentration camp right here.
And then all the things that they have in similar, boom.
That's what the federal system is like.
Most, I mean, most nights there, it's just a bunch of old men watching TV.
I mean, that's it.
That's it.
They're just sitting around watching TV.
A lot of these guys have kids.
They're fathers.
And they're never going to see their kids again.
And they're just sitting around watching TV, wasting their time where they could be doing it.
So it's really a dramatic issue that until you've seen it firsthand, it's really hard to understand.
But I've seen it firsthand.
Two billion dollars worth of prisoners.
Release them from the jail tomorrow.
There's your two billion dollars.
luke rudkowski
I mean, we have more prisoners here than we do in China and Russia.
owen shroyer
It's also important to know that what you're... Well, I don't know if China's numbers are really...
luke rudkowski
Well, good point.
They also disappear and they're never found again.
But there's a lot of organs also found there that are readily available.
But that's a different story.
But good point.
I definitely agree with you.
But you brought up a kind of an anarchistic libertarian perspective.
No victim, no crime.
A lot of people on the right are saying we got a back to blue no matter what we got a back the police officers the police officer saying.
I don't care what laws they're going to make up I'm going to enforce them to the fullest extent that I can happily and we've seen a huge transition from from actual criminals going to jail to now political thought criminals going to jail which is.
Absolutely crazy it needs to be addressed in a way because you you you kind of described it as soulless there is a lot of soullessness there is a lot of people who are just like I'm just doing my job there are a lot of Kamala Harris is that believe that they have to make their way up have to of course make their career by putting innocent people behind bars which she did extensively.
Especially when it came to things like marijuana, which is absolutely freaking ridiculous.
So yeah, I agree with you on those larger kind of libertarian sentiments.
I think they would help galvanize the base.
And I think the people who are rooting for back the blue are essentially rooting for their own enslavement and imprisonment.
owen shroyer
And maybe the selling point to conservatives or Republicans that are too afraid to do that say, well, I'll tell you what, if you don't have criminal justice reform or prison reform, well, then you're going to end up in prison very soon.
ian crossland
So there's a difference between victimless crime and non-violent crime, like financial crimes, like what Sam Beckman Freed has allegedly done, or maybe he's been convicted of it.
So like, do you also encourage, like you said, non-violent, like high-level financial criminals, do you think they should be let out too?
luke rudkowski
Is there a victim?
owen shroyer
So nothing is— There would be, in that case— Yeah, there's a victim— No, no, no, no, hold on.
tim pool
I believe the purpose of prison, for the most part, is to take someone who is dangerous and make sure they can't hurt people.
So for SBF, the real penalty should be house arrest with restrictions.
Meaning, you can't do financial work, you can't trade on these platforms, you are being removed from the area where you did these crimes.
ian crossland
You could argue that stealing a bunch of people's money makes it so they can't buy food and then they starve to death, which is like a violent act.
tim pool
But the point is this.
Did this guy go around, like, mercilessly beating children?
ian crossland
There's, like, there's the overt attack violence, but then there's also the stealing the resource.
tim pool
That's irrelevant.
ian crossland
But, but, you know, I don't think so.
luke rudkowski
Jail's supposed to rehabilitate people.
It doesn't do any of that.
It makes them worse criminals.
owen shroyer
Well, there's two philosophies in the prison system.
There's rehabilitation or punishment, right?
tim pool
Retribution.
owen shroyer
Oh, but but see I think where you're getting nothing is black and white right obviously nothing is black and white and I think Tim you know you propose a good idea like if you if you go into a smash-and-grab that's a violent crime if you steal if you steal from somebody and that takes food off their table you could argue that that's a violent crime financial crimes like SPF I think that you could reasonably argue, okay, you're going to be maybe on house arrest, but more importantly, every financial activity that you make is now going to be monitored.
I mean, it's not that hard to do.
tim pool
Here's what I'd say.
Sbf there is zero risk of him punching a kid in the face.
So we don't have to worry about locking him up behind multiple razor wire fences because he's not in it.
All we have to worry about is we don't want this guy doing financial deals and trading because that's where he broke the law.
In fact, I don't even know what house arrest does.
I would say house arrest because we do want some punitive element of this.
Short duration, maybe a couple years, and then after that, it's restrictions on access to financial systems and services.
He should be able to live and work, but he's going to be breaking rocks or working at a grocery store.
He's not going to be doing big deals.
Now, if a guy robbed a liquor store, this guy is dangerous.
Armed robbery?
Okay, we remove this guy from society temporarily and tell him, you are a danger to people, so we're putting you in a box.
If someone is not, if there is no victim, or if it's non-violent, then we do not need prison.
So, victimless crimes means like somebody was found with pot.
I don't see how locking that person up in prison solves any problem.
ian crossland
I agree on the victimless crimes that people can be better served by learning.
I mean, what would be a better, what do you think for like someone caught with a bunch of pot?
owen shroyer
Nothing.
The war on drugs needs to end tomorrow.
tim pool
The cop can say, oh, pardon me, sir, I wasted your time.
luke rudkowski
If you're going to go after the pot dealers, you've got to go after Big Pharma.
owen shroyer
Now, this is an important point.
What I learned being in there, I'm not the only political prisoner in there.
Now, in the political sphere of media, yes.
People that get arrested for dealing drugs, in my opinion, are political prisoners.
If they worked for a pharmacy, or if they worked for a big pharmaceutical company, you can deal drugs all frickin' day long, and you can make billions of dollars.
Doesn't matter how many people die.
But if you're a street pharmacist... Yeah, but if you deal fentanyl, you're going to jail forever.
Now, I'm not endorsing... this is in no way, shape, or form an endorsement of drug use.
It's bad for you.
Those are political prisoners in my eyes, too.
tim pool
Guys, it's Friday, so I absolutely have to pull up this story and segue to it.
Is this real?
Donald Trump was giving a speech, and I'm seeing these images pop up everywhere.
He says, everything is bad under Biden.
Even the lemonade is killing people.
Did you see that?
People drink the lemonade and die.
The lemonade didn't kill you when I was president.
It was tasty and fun to drink.
We loved the lemonade, didn't we?
ian crossland
This sounds like a deep fake.
tim pool
We did, but not under Biden.
Bacon is more money.
Gas is more money.
The lemonade is more money, and it kills you.
When life hands you lemons, Joe Biden kills you with them.
unidentified
No, Tim, we need a little context here, Tim, because we all went to the Biden rally, we drank the lemonade.
owen shroyer
I don't think it was lemonade, okay?
I think it came from Hunter Biden.
We ran a little analysis on it.
A lot of cocaine, okay?
There was a lot of cocaine.
Maybe a little Parmesan cheese.
I don't think they're selling it lemonade anymore, okay?
I think it's a little bit something else.
It might have killed somebody with a little fentanyl in there, okay?
tim pool
There's got to be a... I can't believe it's real, but I can believe it's real.
owen shroyer
And the issue is... We can find the video.
tim pool
Panera had lemonade, right?
luke rudkowski
Yeah.
unidentified
Everyone's talking about the huge... When life hands you lemons, Joe Biden kills you with them.
owen shroyer
What is the story?
I want to try that lemonade.
luke rudkowski
There's a bunch of stories.
unidentified
Is there a video?
luke rudkowski
Panera's Lemonade That Kills You is really a story about our broken country.
owen shroyer
It's a lemonade with like 500 milligrams of caffeine.
luke rudkowski
Panera Bread Faces Suit from Family of Student Who Died After Drinking Charged Lemonade.
tim pool
Family sues Panera Bread if a college student who drank charged lemonade dies.
It was caffeine, lemonade?
luke rudkowski
They have like 160, uh, what is it?
owen shroyer
It's 400 milligrams in the large size.
luke rudkowski
It's a lot.
owen shroyer
And I drink coffee, that's a lot.
luke rudkowski
It's more than coffee.
tim pool
Is it like a cup of coffee, like 40?
unidentified
That's 10 cups of coffee in one glass?
tim pool
And people probably drank like two of them.
luke rudkowski
And they didn't realize it.
owen shroyer
Unlike those energy drinks, like you don't consume more than 2 in 24 hours or whatever.
ian crossland
Woah!
It says more than a can of Red Bull and Monster combined.
eric july
Plus the equivalent of 30 teaspoons of- That's what it is.
You know the drink Celsius?
They're 200 milligrams.
ian crossland
Plus 30 teaspoons of sugar.
30 teaspoons of sugar.
owen shroyer
That's not helping you.
eric july
That's probably what's gonna kill you.
ian crossland
I mean, at some point, yeah.
luke rudkowski
Well, the caffeine also spikes your adrenals.
owen shroyer
That's the thing, though.
I mean, I would not suggest anybody do this because it's obviously bad for you, but I'm probably taking like 500 milligrams of caffeine a day, but I've built a tolerance to it.
Like, my body is ready for it.
You jump into that as a kid.
It's four.
tim pool
It's four.
So one charged lemonade was four cups of coffee.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, it's 390 milligrams in a 30-ounce serving, but they allow refills, so people were literally having four, five, six of them a day in one sitting.
And they were like, yeah, this is lemonade, this is totally fine.
owen shroyer
So do we even know, then?
Do we even know?
Did this girl only have one, or did she maybe have two, three, or four?
ian crossland
This says she died after drinking.
Her name is Sarah Katz.
She was a 21-year-old college student with a heart condition.
Died after drinking a charged lemonade.
unidentified
A heart condition from a weed?
luke rudkowski
It's plant-based, though.
tim pool
I got bad news!
unidentified
There was another guy that also... I got bad news!
Viral images of Donald Trump talking about Lemonade are fake.
ian crossland
Someone had to get ready for the future, which is gonna be deep and it's gonna be fake.
owen shroyer
But they were funny!
tim pool
They were funny.
I couldn't find the video, but it was too good to pass up.
When life hands you lemons, Joe Biden kills you with them.
ian crossland
Is Panera still selling this stuff?
owen shroyer
They had to pull it.
unidentified
Okay.
ian crossland
It was two wrongful death suits.
The other guy's 46 year old.
He drank three glasses and then... I'd like to know if they were... Twelve cups of coffee in one sitting.
owen shroyer
I'd like to know if they were...
unidentified
If they were hit with a little COVID juice, more than just caffeine.
tim pool
Look, man, I gotta be honest.
You drink 12 cups of coffee in like 40 minutes, you're gonna be in the hospital.
ian crossland
Yeah, I did that once anecdotally and had like massive nerve pain in my neck, like pre-stroke nerve pain.
I was like, what is wrong?
And I just stopped with the caffeine for a week after that.
tim pool
Oh, dude, I was driving.
So this is when I went on a road trip to the North Dakota pipeline protest.
You guys remember that one?
unidentified
Oh yeah.
tim pool
And then I had to drive from that protest to LA, so this is North Dakota to Los Angeles, and I had like two days to do it.
So I was like, I'm not stopping.
And so I was awake for like 28 hours, and I just kept slamming like five-hour energy, and it got to the point that the weirdest- I started hallucinating.
owen shroyer
Like, I'm- I think that's sleep deprivation.
tim pool
And yes, right, but the caffeine was keeping me awake, and so I'm driving in my car, and like, here's how I would describe it.
Everything I could see, I'm like pulling up to a gas station, it looked like... What is that thing where it's 3D but it's outlined like a cartoon?
You know what I'm talking about?
ian crossland
Rotoscoping?
tim pool
Not rotoscope.
So it's like, it's kind of like rotoscope.
But it's uh, they do, so uh, they make 3D- Like Borderlands graphics?
Yeah, yeah.
eric july
That's called cell-shaded.
tim pool
Cell-shaded.
Everything was turning into that, and then there was like a weird texture appearing over things, and I'm like, I'm sitting in the car going like, I think I'm gonna die.
My heart was probably going like a 120 beats per minute or something, and then I just pulled over and I was like, I'm gonna just drink water and then sit.
And so I had to stop.
Yeah.
I drank way too much.
ian crossland
It doesn't make you less tired.
It binds to the adenosine receptors, adenosine, and those are, so you don't realize you're tired, the caffeine, but you still get really, the fatigue was still tripping you out probably, like you were saying.
owen shroyer
I'm probably, I had 200 milligrams of caffeine before I got here.
These drinks are 150 a piece.
I've already had one, so I'm halfway through this, so I'm at least 400 milligrams in right now.
ian crossland
Did you do a lot in the past?
Have you always done a lot of caffeine?
owen shroyer
Not really.
Not until I really got into my 30s and it was kind of like a necessity to work as much as I do.
I think that's what happens with people in coffee is they drink coffee all the time.
I just don't like coffee.
So what I'll do is either find an organic source of caffeine or take like a caffeine tablet or resell energy supplements at InfoWars 2 and I'll drink that too.
But again, I'm not telling people to drink 500 milligrams of caffeine a day.
I'm saying you gotta, like, it took me a while to be to the point where, okay, this is kind of where I need to be, where I can function and do everything I need to do during the day and then still be able to sleep.
I've got to cut it off at a certain time, otherwise I won't be able to sleep.
So in other words, probably not sleeping tonight.
tim pool
Whenever I'm driving and I start to get tired and I'm falling asleep, the cars in front of me turn into cat faces.
unidentified
Whoa.
tim pool
I start hallucinating.
ian crossland
I know.
tim pool
And like the taillights.
That's when you know that feeling.
That's when I'm like, I am pulling over and I am done.
ian crossland
Yeah, yeah.
owen shroyer
That's not the acid?
tim pool
No, I don't do that stuff.
ian crossland
That's just like a tryptamine that your body produces.
luke rudkowski
I used to have to drive at like three in the morning to the airport for my job and I'd be super tired and I'd be driving and then all of a sudden like I'm falling asleep but I can't close my eyes, the cars in front of me just like start to turn into That's when you pull over and you should try some vitamin B. A lot of the coffees now, especially at a lot of the major stores, Dunkin Donuts, Starbucks, they're absolutely filled with some of the worst additives and ingredients and seed oils you could ever have.
But I'm just speaking to the average American out there that is kind of hooked on it, as of course the ingredients in there are truly just absolutely awful.
And I really do believe that they have been Incrementally adding more and more high fructose corn syrup to the point where we become more and more addicted to it, and it's one of the things ailing our society more than, I think, cigarettes, more than anything else that is negative.
Sugary drinks are the worst.
owen shroyer
That's why America's so fat.
tim pool
Yeah, when you cut sugar out 100%, after like a week, if you taste sugar, you'll go, oh!
It's like pure syrup.
ian crossland
Yeah, it almost burns.
tim pool
It's just too sweet.
So, everybody's noticed this.
If you eat a bowl of ice cream, then eat some piece of candy, it doesn't taste sweet because you've already just slammed sugar in your mouth.
ian crossland
I would argue if your bananas aren't sweet, you have too much sugar in your system.
If carrots aren't sweet, you have too much sugar in your system.
owen shroyer
Oh, carrots are sweet, man.
ian crossland
Yeah, carrots should be sweet for you.
Coconut water should be sweet for you.
owen shroyer
But I think it's important to distinguish the difference between processed sugar and natural sugar.
Because natural sugar is not nearly as bad for you as processed sugar.
ian crossland
Well, it depends.
It can be gross.
tim pool
It could be worse.
ian crossland
Like refined sucrose is, it can, because of the concentrations that they use, that's pretty nasty, but compared to like aspartame and high fructose... Aspartate and fat sugar.
Yes, sweeteners.
These synthetic sweeteners that they might call sugar, but for some reason, I don't know how they can get away with it.
tim pool
So, don't take nutrition advice from me.
Look it up, fact check me, but my understanding is glucose, your body can utilize right away.
Fructose, your body has to process in the liver.
So the fructose is sugar that's found in fruits.
It's very taxing on the system.
The problem is we don't just have glucose syrup anymore.
We do high fructose corn syrup.
They literally take corn syrup, put an enzyme in it to convert it into fructose so it tastes sweeter and strains your liver and causes damage.
ian crossland
I was looking at like, it was Dow Chemical, I believe, was making high fructose for a while.
I think it was Dow Chemical.
I went to their website and it took me like 20-30 minutes to dig through the website on the process of how to make it.
And they put it in these big tanks and they make it with like a... and then between Creation of the high fructose corn syrup.
They'd have to wash the tanks with a resin and it was like the chemical, I don't want to misspeak, it could have been arsenic, but the chemical that they use to wash the tanks, they don't put on the list of the ingredient of the high fructose, but they put like chemicals in the tank between production to clean the tanks that are probably, I would guess, ending up in the high fructose corn syrup.
owen shroyer
Yeah, just like chemical runoff.
That's what a lot of the canola oils and stuff they put in food.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, the seed oils.
No, they're absolutely horrible.
owen shroyer
Yeah.
luke rudkowski
And, you know, you think you're cutting out sugar, but you really have to cut out the drinks.
The drinks are the worst.
And I was bamboozled.
I was convinced that the green teas that I was having, I was like, oh, it's green tea, oh, it's ginseng, oh, they're totally griffey.
50 grams of high fructose corn syrup, and I was just chugging that thing like it was nothing.
Look at these.
tim pool
Look at these ones you're drinking.
owen shroyer
Yeah, yeah.
luke rudkowski
I'm not drinking this one.
owen shroyer
This is just the whole thing.
as bad but yeah they have a bunch of additives.
This has 11 grams and that's added.
tim pool
Mate.
owen shroyer
Yerba Mate.
tim pool
That's added to this.
And then you got this right here, Spindrift, it's got zero.
ian crossland
What's in it?
What's it added to?
Zero sugar.
owen shroyer
Is it 11 on top of something else?
No.
ian crossland
No, just 11.
Just add 11.
Yeah.
That's not too much but I mean maybe I'm just desensitized to the 40 or 50 that you see
tim pool
in soda.
I gotta tell you guys.
Anybody, you got bubble tea?
I can't drink it.
It's disgusting.
It's like drinking maple syrup.
I have to tell them no sugar.
Just give me like the tea mixture or whatever and then put the bubbles in it.
The bubbles sugar enough, man.
ian crossland
I've had like maybe 24 grams of sugar in the last four hours or maybe more, but I can feel my nose starting to run.
Like, that's... I don't normally... I haven't been sick since I got COVID two years ago.
And like, I... A lot of it's probably because I don't eat a lot.
The sugar, swelling, and all that.
And it's... I can sense it.
I can feel it right now.
tim pool
Let's go for this, uh...
Thanks for letting us know.
Let's go for this debate we got going on.
From scnr.com $20,000 raised in 3 hours
for a legal defense of man who decapitated satanic statue in Iowa capital.
My conscience is held captive to the word of God, not to bureaucratic
degree, and so I acted. Now hold on there a minute. We have this tweet from
Matt Walsh.
Matt Walsh, of course, threw down the gauntlet and struck my face with a dueling glove over my opinions on Bud Light.
No, that's totally fine.
But he has an opinion on this.
He says, A satanic altar has no right to exist, certainly not inside a government building.
We are not bound by our principles to sit by impotently while our state houses are turned into platforms for literal devil worship.
Quite the opposite, in fact.
Now, Yeah, I don't like devil worship.
And I think the way you go about stopping something like this is through procedure and policy and not through barbarism.
And so I guess the issue here is Matt Walsh is defending the idea that this guy toppled this altar to Satan and Satanism.
I don't know if it's actually Satan.
It's like Satanism, the religion.
And my attitude is like, dude, I don't see the argument in, if you feel emotionally satisfied with it, it was just.
Because that's the argument made by the left for taking Thomas Jefferson down.
To be fair, Matt Walsh addresses this and says, obviously there's a difference between a revered historical figure who founded components of our country and of our government, and Satan.
And I completely agree.
owen shroyer
And it should be considered a venerable object, which is a legal definition for stuff like that.
I don't think a satanic monument is a venerable object.
tim pool
But the issue I suppose is, if we are a nation that has a right, no law respecting an establishment of religion, and people are allowed to worship the way they want to worship, then we either say, we do not have religious iconography in state houses, or we have to accept that there's going to be wacky religions we don't like.
eric july
Yeah, to me I think that the former has to be a process is always the issue with the whole public property sort of concept is like what do you like you what do you allow versus what it what it is that you don't which is why I believe personally all that stuff needs to be limited because You know, to your point, Tim, you start getting emotional, uh, with it and people, yeah, obviously there's a difference between Thomas Jefferson and freaking Satan, but you know, I still, and you know, to some people, unfortunately that let's say that's in the eye of the, uh, of the beholder.
And so to leave it up to for dispute for any Joe blow to say, Hey, when I'm feeling a certain type of way, I get to do this versus when I don't, you know, that's always going to be a problem, which is why I think the public, the public property thing is, is just a fundamental issue.
And look, I'm a realist at the end of the day, so I get it what Matt
Walsh is kind of, uh, where he's getting at. You know, look, man, the game is not that we were
talking about this in previous segments, man. The game is the game. So, um, you know, when the left,
when they want to, let's say that they'll be in and break the rules, uh, to, to, to mean
whatever it is that they want to mean.
So they don't give a crap about what it is that you hold tight and true to and whatever monuments it is that you have.
If they feel like it's worth them toppling it, they'll use whatever nonsensical laws, perhaps even, to justify their own sort of actions.
So I think, fundamentally, I get it.
You know what I mean?
It's like, hey, I'm playing a game that they playing.
owen shroyer
This is why the American left, or more historically speaking, conquering totalitarians, destroy culture.
You see, this shouldn't even be a debate in American culture.
I mean, we can get into the kind of nuance of, oh, well, what do you allow in a government building versus what you don't.
But if we had a culture, if we had a consistent culture, this wouldn't even be a debate.
We wouldn't be talking about should a Christian monument stand or should a historical monument stand.
That would be our culture, and we would agree that's our culture.
Whether we agree with it spiritually, that wouldn't even be up for debate.
A satanic monument shouldn't even be in the debate.
But because they've destroyed our culture, and we've got all this infighting now about, oh, what should be here, what should be there, what's the nuance of all these laws?
Well, At some point, culture kind of would overwhelm all of that.
But because our culture has been destroyed, now we have to sit here and have a debate of, does a satanic statue belong in the government building?
It's like, are you kidding me?
luke rudkowski
But the question is, do you want to become what you're fighting?
So I would just kind of counter that kind of point of view.
If we're going to be doing that, okay, let's, you know... Isn't that a winning issue?
owen shroyer
Like you can't support the guy that tears down Satan?
eric july
Right, right.
But no, that's, again, I get it.
But that's where I think the left sort of differs from the quote-unquote American right, because they don't care about that part, which is why they're such a difficult enemy to fight.
So while, yeah, I don't want to be you and I don't want to become you, it's not going to stop them from kicking me in the nuts when they get a chance.
They have absolutely no issues bastardizing whatever power it is that they sort of have.
Again, like I was saying before, bending and breaking the rules.
So you can go up to them and be like, look, man, I don't want to be you.
I look at you and you're the worst of us all, but in the same respects, on the other hand, they're like, well, I don't care.
Am I dirty?
unidentified
Yeah.
eric july
Everybody realize this in 2020, or at least you should have.
Um, that should have been a wake up call for everybody when the whole COVID thing and the pro like George Floyd stuff stuff happened.
When the left, literally the day before all this, the riots and whatever took place, they were basically saying, if you went outside, you were going to kill grandma.
And then the next, like out of nowhere, the George Floyd situation happens.
Now everybody's bunched up together and we're walking the streets and they didn't, We knew they were hypocrites!
They didn't care.
That's the thing, and this is what I'm trying to explain to the right in this country.
It's like, look, you are dealing with an enemy that does not abide by the same set of ethics, morals, whatever it is that you want to call them, that you have.
If anything, they will use it against you.
It's like a militant leftist atheist trying to appeal to God when they'll say whatever against God You know, ten minutes before they made their claim, or they'll be like, well, that would be something Jesus would do.
They do that stuff because they're trying to weaponize your own morals.
tim pool
And this is why the heads of those universities, when they were asked about the calls for genocide of the Jews, immediately said, well, the Constitution protects.
They routinely defy the principle of free speech, our constitutional protections, and then the moment someone questions some abhorrent thing they want to say, they immediately run and hide behind the Constitution.
owen shroyer
So in other words, there is no Jenna Ellis of the left saying, Hey guys, are we sure we want to do this?
I don't remember anyone, any lawyers from the left saying, Hey, stop tearing down monuments.
Stop attacking police officers.
eric july
I don't care.
No.
And that's what I'm saying.
And I don't really, I'm not going to pretend like I know all the answers.
This is what I'm saying.
That's such a difficult enemy.
To combat, right?
Because again, it's like I'm going into it and I'm trying to be ethical with this, but I also have to understand that you're not playing by those same set of rules.
You'll hold me to those standards if it means that it's advantageous to you.
But at the end of the day, it's not anything that you're going to follow.
owen shroyer
Do you think a lot of that is denial, though, from the American right?
Because you say, this is what I'm trying to get the American right to understand.
Do you think a lot of it is denial, like, oh, we're not under attack, the Constitution isn't under threat, like, this isn't actually going on?
eric july
Delusion, I think, is more the accurate term to what it is.
It's like, I get it, you want to believe that the world is the way that it's actually not, but For the sanctity of our, or really for our own sanity.
It's like, we need this to be true.
It's like what we talk about with, uh, whether it be with police officers, whether it be with the, uh, judicial system, whatever it may be, you like to think that these people are better than us.
They are the best of us.
They're not.
I mean, you can see all the examples and how they're not, if anything, they're like worst of us.
Uh, like I say, with the Congress really being a band full of absolute criminals, but in order for us to get by in life, It's comforting to believe this idea that the world is something that it's absolutely not.
And like I said, it's just such a, it's such a difficult enemy to combat because they're just not going to play fair.
And then they tell you that they have no issues being like, yeah, I was a hypocrite to what I did, what I said yesterday.
owen shroyer
Yeah.
eric july
I said, we said that you were going to kill grandmas.
We told y'all hell we even arrested some of y'all if it came down to it, but now we're going to link up and we're going to protest.
And yeah, it's okay.
In fact, they were using the medical institution to, Try to justify what it was it is that they were doing when they were linking up despite them telling you that this was something that was criminal when you did it.
That shows that they just don't care.
unidentified
There were scientific articles, there was mainline scientists and the corporate media saying this is going to help Yes, they were saying that the numbers were going down because all of these people were marching together despite them yesterday saying you were killing grandma when you did.
tim pool
It was, I think, like a university in Colorado that was like, we found Black Lives Matter protests actually reduced the spread of COVID.
unidentified
Unbelievable.
luke rudkowski
Yes, but the anti-lockdown protests made COVID worse.
tim pool
And then there was a video out of New York where everybody's marching and the doctors
wearing masks are all clapping and cheering.
But then there's a photo from DC where people are protesting the lockdowns and nurses were
blocking cars and looking angry.
These people are hypocrites and they're insane.
ian crossland
Yes.
tim pool
A combination of the two.
ian crossland
Part of the issues I got with the satanic altar thing that Matt Walsh was talking about is that I think what started it all was that someone came in and, quote, defaced the, what was it, in Congress somewhere, by putting up the Ten Commandments, technically because you're not supposed to put up any religious text in that building.
So they start, someone started it by putting up the Ten Commandments.
Now, I don't necessarily disagree with the Ten Commandments, and I find that Satan is probably Considerably more evil, relatively, in general society than the Ten Commandments, but it seems like the satanic thing was like a response to, well, you put up your religion, I'm gonna put up my religion.
How do you like it?
owen shroyer
So, I don't think, maybe... So, but in that regard, though, you have to ask, then, is it even really a religion?
Or is it just spite?
ian crossland
Probably both, technically.
I don't know exactly what the impetus was, but, I mean, the Temple of Satan, the Satanic Temple, is now legally a religion, since, I don't know when, the last 20 years or something.
tim pool
Like a couple years ago or something.
ian crossland
A couple years.
tim pool
Maybe like four, no, actually like five or six years ago, I think.
So they're technically... They got tax code certification or something.
ian crossland
Could have been anybody, could have been an Islamic symbol, could have been a Scientology thing.
tim pool
They're doing it in response to having the Ten Commandments in the building, I guess.
owen shroyer
Do you think they would have done the same thing if somebody put Muslim scripture up there?
ian crossland
Like ripped it down?
tim pool
Muslim scripture would not have been ripped down.
unidentified
Oh yeah.
ian crossland
Yeah, I don't think so.
Somebody had a visceral response to the satanic imagery.
owen shroyer
No, no, no, but I mean if the satanic imagery was in response to the Ten Commandments... No, no, yeah, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
They wouldn't put anything up over Muslim stuff.
owen shroyer
Yeah, I agree.
tim pool
Right.
owen shroyer
I agree.
I think it's animus towards Christianity, is what I think.
ian crossland
Could have been, yeah.
Or it could have just been towards organized religion in general.
Who knows?
It's tough to say.
I don't know who did it.
unidentified
Who did it?
ian crossland
And who put up the Ten Commandments?
Did that ever come out?
Did both of those people get in trouble?
owen shroyer
Because why'd they let the... But that's my point is I don't think it is against organized religion in general because I think we all agree if it was Muslim I definitely don't agree with tearing it down.
You think it should have stayed?
ian crossland
It's just it's an assumption. I don't know. It's tough to say. I have to ask the guy.
I don't necessarily condone tearing it down, but it shouldn't have been there.
None of those temples should- none of those things should have been there. Ten Commandments shouldn't have been there.
tim pool
I definitely don't agree with tearing it down.
owen shroyer
You think it should have stayed?
tim pool
I think it should have been removed through procedure.
unidentified
Like you file a lawsuit and- Well technically tearing it down is a procedure.
tim pool
Right, what I mean is, I'm not- It's a BLM procedure.
What they're trying to do is they're gonna go to Normies and say, look at what Matt Walsh says when a guy destroys our statue, and then they pretend they care about statues being removed?
They're gonna make a false equivalency.
Now, Matt is correct, they're not the same thing.
But I think what I would say he's missing here is, we're trying to convince regular people we are right.
They are playing this dirty game where they hold their hand in front of your face and saying, I'm not touching you, I'm not touching you.
And then when you swat their hand away, they post a video online saying, guy punches peaceful activist.
This is what they're doing every step of the way.
Matt Walsh, his reaction is the desired outcome.
They wanted someone to smash the satanic altar.
They were hoping and praying someone would do it.
owen shroyer
Well, let me just kind of switch lanes on this issue then.
For this guy who I believe is running for Congress in Mississippi, the guy that smashed the satanic altar... He is?
I believe so.
Whatever we think about the action that he had that day, I would say as a Republican voter and as somebody who's looking for somebody with a spine in the Republican Party in Congress, I say good.
That's the exact type of person I want in Congress.
Because they're not going to take any crap and they're actually going to do the things that Republican voters have been wanting their conservative representation to do forever.
So if it was a political stunt, I say smart move.
Good for him.
ian crossland
My concern is if it inspires people to do it again, and then, like, I have something on my lawn and someone comes up and they're like, I don't like it, and they smash it down on my lawn.
owen shroyer
But that's not your lawn.
Nobody's going to do it on your lawn.
I mean, I guess, supposedly, but this was in a government building.
It was a big story.
It was a viral story.
He knew he could seize the moment.
ian crossland
Did you see the guy, like, five days ago walk in with a fire extinguisher and extinguish the menorah?
owen shroyer
Yeah, Polish MP.
ian crossland
Kind of similar.
Like, he didn't agree with the menorah in some way.
tim pool
That was brutal and awful and wrong.
Like, knocking on a satanic altar irks me in a procedural kind of way, and like a strategic kind of way, like don't give them the thing they desire.
Actually going after a legitimate religion which is literally just lighting candles, I'm like, that's a dick move.
owen shroyer
But Polish is a very Christian nation, and he looked at that as a Christian, and he didn't like that culture being in his Christian nation.
That was how he looked at it.
tim pool
And I think regardless of whether it's Judaism or Satanism, there should be a higher level reasoned response, not a brutal, animalistic response.
reject the ethos and ideology of BLM and the tactics of the left, where they stomp around like morons, biting and punching things.
And I think that we actually could be ideologically better men and say, here is exactly why this should not be for my reason stands.
And we say, okay, and we take it down.
And the message we send is that we deal with things in an orderly fashion.
luke rudkowski
Yeah I think this debate is very important right now because I think we're dealing with a situation where a lot of the people within the DOJ and FBI want to provoke a certain situation they want I think the people on the right to be angry they are acting in a very litigious unfair way and with them now going after journalists we were talking about this a couple days ago.
It's almost as if they're trying to provoke the people on the right to overreact.
So I think being calm.
I think not overreacting.
I think being better than the left and not acting violent and not acting on our emotions is our strength.
There are some key things to it that are disadvantages, but there's also a lot of advantages for it as well.
And I think we should Stay along those lines in my own personal opinion.
I could be wrong, but that's just my initial kind of knee-jerk reaction to all of this.
owen shroyer
But Eric, your logic is kind of different, right?
If I'm hearing you correctly.
eric july
Well, yeah, because I look at it both ways.
It's like a strategy thing.
So while I understand that there is obviously going to be instances where it is important to not necessarily act like, let's say, your opponent is going to act.
I just think you have to be a little more analytical than just like, hey, you're the bad guy and you're acting in a certain way and I don't want to be that guy.
I think you have to be more strategic with it.
It's like, look, in a given instance where it is going to be advantageous for you to act a certain way long term, you got to take the game for what it is.
We can't be, I think us, Trying to be too idealistic about it is how they got so much ground because we looked at it like, oh, we're the more analytical guys, right?
We do things the right way.
Meanwhile, the left kind of comes in stomping around, flipping tables, doing whatever the hell it is that they want.
And to be fair, it's worked for them.
I mean, they've gotten what it is that they wanted.
So it's like, I believe there's an appropriate response to where, yeah, you don't want to just be a leftist.
I don't think that doesn't help anybody.
But in the same respect, you've got to understand what the actual game is.
And as I always say, act It doesn't mean act like them, it means do not go into a game that is unfair trying to play fair, because you're going to lose every single time.
ian crossland
It's the difference between du jour law and de facto rule.
Du jour rule, and this is a French term, du jour means by law, de facto means by fact.
So you may own a property du jour, the law, you have the paperwork, but if someone goes and sits in that house and takes it and won't let you in, Then they own it by de facto.
By fact, you don't own it anymore.
And if all you do is just play the du jour game and you're like, well, I have the paperwork, therefore it's mine, but two weeks, two months, two years go by and you can't get into your house, then you're playing asymmetrical.
It is sad that that is reality, but that is reality.
And it's reality in war often, unfortunately.
eric july
Absolutely.
ian crossland
And we try and stick to the law.
It's very important, but when, you know, fact is, whoever, you know, the fact is the fact of what is.
luke rudkowski
But they don't care about the law.
Look what happened to Owen, which I think we should be talking about your particular case more, because as you said, now a lot of other journalists are going to be arrested and prosecuted because of what you went through.
owen shroyer
And really, it's not just the journalists, because there's no doubt they're going to use this as a precedent to go after other journalists, but I also think they want to snuff out any right-wing activism as well.
They don't just want to snuff out any journalism that may go against the establishment.
In this case, it's the left-wing establishment.
But they also want to snuff out any activism from conservatives as well.
And so I think it's really a two-pronged issue.
The journalism one is obviously the one that gets the focus and the one that has more of the press at this point.
But it's definitely at an activist level as well.
I think the real reason why the Democrat Party hates me so much is they couldn't imagine if there were a hundred of me, a thousand of me, a million of me, they wouldn't exist.
They'd be done.
They wouldn't be able to have any of these shams going on because When the Democrats show up to the Capitol, what do they do?
They bring a thousand people wearing the pink vagina hats.
They bring a thousand people for a pro-Palestinian protest.
They bring a thousand people to chant against Amy Coney Barrett or Brett Kavanaugh.
I was one man.
I was one man that stood up against the Trump impeachment sham.
It's not like I'm the only one that knew it was a sham.
It's not like I was the only one in that room that knew it was the sham.
But they kind of see me as like this Spartacus where, oh, if other people think they can be Owen Schroer, if other people think they can stand up and tell the Democrat what for and why, then we got to snuff that out now.
We got to shut him down now.
We can't have this Marcus Aurelius showing up in Washington, D.C.
They tried to ban me from D.C.
The Democrats tried to ban me from D.C.
entirely.
Twice!
And the judges laughed him out of the room!
luke rudkowski
And it wasn't just about attacking you.
I think it was also about scaring everyone else in the industry who's going to be like, oh, Owen's in jail for saying something.
I better watch out what I say now.
I better be careful now.
So I truly, truly do think your case is very important to talk about.
Are there any updates that we should know about?
Is there any other details that haven't been released to the general public that you think are important to highlight here?
owen shroyer
Well, we are going to be taking my appeal to the Supreme Court.
That is where it's going to end up, as far as its fate there.
I think it's still a little too far off or foggy to know what the fate there might be.
But, you know, my case has recently gotten attention because of my prison sentence, obviously.
But the truth is, I've been politically persecuted by the American left and the Democrat Party Since 2019, really since 2018, when they censored me off of all the mainstream social media platforms, they arrested me for disrupting Congress, which again, this is something that happens all the time.
David Hogg disrupted Congress.
He stood up during a hearing on gun violence and disrupted Congress.
Now, is David Hogg gonna get charged and go to jail?
No, of course not!
And I would argue he shouldn't.
I don't think he should.
I believe that's David Hogg's First Amendment right.
When all them show up and they disrupt Congress for whatever reason, for abortion, climate change, all this other stuff, do they get charged?
Do they get arrested?
98% of the time, no, they don't.
The only time they will is if they resist arrest or assault a police officer.
Then they'll get arrested.
What normally happens in that situation And this is what would have happened to me.
They detain you, they escort you out of the building, and then they release you on your merry way and say you're not welcome here again today.
But somebody got on the walkie-talkie for the Capitol Police that December in 2019 and said, oh no, no, no, you're arresting Schroer.
You're charging him and arresting him.
And even the Capitol Police were like, what the heck?
I did another one.
There were 40-50 Trump protesters inside the Capitol.
This was in the beginning of 2020, January 2020.
40-50 Trump protesters inside the Capitol.
I go there to interview them.
The next day, I showed up with a piece of tape over my mouth that said censored.
I got arrested.
I spent 36 hours in jail for that.
Now the next day, when that charge reached the judge's docket, he threw it out and completely dismissed it.
So I don't have any charges for that.
But the point is, 40-50 Trump protesters can be in there in the Capitol.
Pro-Trump protester stands there with a piece of tape over his mouth.
He gets arrested.
And so really all of that was the background and that's why they put me in jail.
ian crossland
I'm thinking a lot about protests lately.
I mentioned this a little bit before.
I talked to Jacob Chansley earlier today who was the American shaman who was also at the Capitol.
We did an interview on my channel on YouTube, which was nice.
And I was like, I think the thing about protest is the evolution of protesting right now is it's good to be out on the street yelling like, thing is bad, thing is bad, but you just kind of want to acknowledge the thing and then offer your solution.
And the protest, the forward testament, the pro, the positive, that's the real protest.
The idea that you want to scream about bad has to go away.
Obviously you want to educate people what it is, but offer them the solution, and I think you can do it online.
There is online censorship, unfortunately, but a lot of times when you're not screaming, thing is bad on the internet, you don't get censored.
If you're screaming, this is the solution, people listen, and that's a great way to shift protests.
luke rudkowski
Well, a lot of people are afraid to protest.
I remember there was a couple other protests that were happening a couple months ago, and everyone online is saying, hey, don't show up.
There's going to be feds that are going to infiltrate and cause an event just like they did on this one particular date.
Don't show up.
Don't do it.
So this works in many different ways.
I think the fear aspect is one of the most important ones, and this is why I think, oh, and it's so important for you to come out and talk and say, hey, I made it through.
They put me in the system.
I made it out.
I'm stronger.
I'm better than ever.
That message is so important because it shows us, OK, they could go after you.
They could punish you.
But guess what?
You're going to come out on the other side.
You're still are going to be there no matter what they kind of throw at you.
That message is more important.
I don't know if you would probably say it a little bit better, but I want to kind of leave this kind of open ended statement for you.
And kind of where do you see things going from here?
owen shroyer
Well, I would just say that I've kind of just lived that.
I mean, I haven't stopped talking since I got out.
I mean, I've probably done 20 or so interviews.
I'm here tonight on this show.
It's going to get millions of views.
You know, I would say that...
It's something that's hard to deal with when you're in there, right?
It's something that's hard to deal with when you're actually in there, but if you truly believe in your cause and you truly believe in your actions, then you can find that this is not going to be done in vain, that there is going to be a positive result on the other side of this.
And I mean, maybe there will be something big in my case, maybe not, but I think that at least As far as getting the issues out and getting the message out and getting the awareness out, it's already had a major impact.
I mean, they brought it up at the BOP hearing, and now a lot of members of Congress and presidential candidates are kind of reevaluating this whole situation.
Not just with January 6th, But just overall, the persecution that goes on in this country and the situation that people are facing locked away in jails when it's non-violent criminals, victimless crime criminals.
But to answer your question, I would much rather, I don't want my fate To be controlled or I don't want my image to be controlled by the people that hate me and want to silence me.
I want to be the one that controls it.
So like you said, I don't want people to say, oh, I'm afraid to talk or oh, I'm afraid to do this or I'm afraid to take action.
I'm afraid to do a protest.
I want people to say no, I want to do it even more now.
I think it's important that I stand for my cause and I think it's important that I don't live in fear.
When I'm doing this.
It's important that I don't censor myself.
I don't have this chilling effect or I don't stay home thinking this is the safe thing for me to do is just stay out of the way.
So I'm hoping that that my story goes that way instead of the way certainly the Democrats or the establishment wanted as they see my case and they say, oh, I've got to shut up now.
I hope people see my case and they say, oh, I've got to get louder now.
ian crossland
I got I was thinking about, um.
unidentified
So many things, and I was just about to... I just lost my train of thought.
ian crossland
I'll get it back.
owen shroyer
You gotta type it down on your computer.
ian crossland
Yeah, that's true.
owen shroyer
That's what Luke sees.
luke rudkowski
I got the notes, I got the papers, I'm jotting things down.
It's important, especially for, you know, people who procreated substances.
I won't get into it.
It's okay, Ian.
It's totally fine.
tim pool
So I heard that Twitch was...
Trying to allow nudity and then didn't.
ian crossland
They learned pretty quick.
luke rudkowski
It wasn't nudity.
It was like near close to nudity.
ian crossland
Oh, I know what I was going to say.
luke rudkowski
There's jiggling and oils.
ian crossland
I was going to talk about the discretion of using the internet, talking on the internet.
Cause the internet's pretty new and people are still figuring out how to use it.
Cause like, I'll sit around and war game with my friends and be like, well what I really think about what that government did with that is this false flag thing.
And this could have happened and it's very likely or possible that this, but when I go on the internet, I don't want to say that out loud because in case I'm wrong.
And a lot of times I'm like, I'm pretty sure I'm right, but just in case I'm wrong, it could cause like death and destruction and incompatibility.
And I don't want to, I don't want to do that.
And I also think it's people are watching and listening and they're like, I hope he's not sick.
But like, It's just there's more of a responsibility when the cameras are on.
If someone hacks you talking on your Alexa and they hear it and then they post you're talking, you didn't put it on the internet.
Someone else did and they're responsible for that message.
But if you proactively put your message out there and you're just spitballing, there's a lot of responsibility behind that.
So I've been kind of quiet about like wargaming, like the military, because like the conflicts on earth right now.
I want to talk about what's going on in Israel.
I just don't do it on the internet because I don't know.
I don't have the proof, and I'm not even going to question that stuff.
It's just war is a different game, because there are no rules and that kind of thing, and I don't want to bring that down upon myself.
And I've been thinking about that since the Israeli conflict, since October 7th.
owen shroyer
But here's what you know, you're anti-war.
ian crossland
Big time.
owen shroyer
So there you go.
So that's what you know.
ian crossland
Not necessarily.
There are just wars.
Wars of defense.
When the U.S.
went to war in World War II, I think they had to step up.
I'm anti-conquest in a lot of ways.
But there are times when I think it is necessary to fight for national defense.
luke rudkowski
I kind of have a question for you.
You were in there for, what is it, 40 plus days?
47.
What was the most kind of uplifting moment or inspiring moment when you were in there?
owen shroyer
Definitely all the letters that I received.
I mean, I received, I don't know how many, at least 500, maybe closer to a thousand.
And just reading the positive words from people, supportive words from people.
Some people got really personal, like telling me extremely personal stories.
Some people told me war stories.
Some people, you know, talked about struggles that they went through.
Some people who had been in prison before talked about things that they did to get through their time.
So really it was just, it was the people.
And, you know, I said that, I've said this a couple times.
Because I understand why people lose faith in the American people or even in the idea of America with everything that we're going through, but reading that from people and some of the people I talked to on the inside, both workers at the prison and the inmates, my faith in the American people was reaffirmed.
I mean, it truly was.
I have a deep faith in the American people.
I really do.
I think at the end of the day, I mean, that's what built this country was the people that lived here.
It was the American people.
And it's going to have to be the American people that restore it or rebuild it from everything that's been ripped out from under us.
I mean, you look at our major, some of the greatest cities in the world at one point, St.
Louis, Baltimore, Chicago.
Major cities.
They've been destroyed.
They've been destroyed.
We've been lapped by cities in the Middle East and cities in China and the Far East.
Why?
Because it's been stolen and it's been destroyed.
I believe that we can rebuild.
I believe that we can restore.
And I believe that the American people still has the soul and the spirit to do it.
We've just kind of been asleep.
We've kind of been in a trance.
We've kind of been poisoned by the food and the water.
But I do believe it's possible.
It's going to be the American people.
It's not going to be the President of the United States.
It's not going to be anybody in Congress.
That's how we help ourselves politically, but it's going to have to be the American people that rebuild this.
We need good policy, obviously, but ultimately my faith in the American people was restored.
I mean, the letters that I got were just, I mean, truly they were inspirational.
They got me through some of the hardest times, really.
luke rudkowski
You get any chicks trying to date you?
tim pool
Can they send photos or anything like that?
unidentified
Yeah, you can send photos.
You're still on probation, is it?
Yeah, for a year.
luke rudkowski
We're taking the fifth. Can they did they send it like can they send photos or anything like that? Yeah, you can send
tim pool
photos Yeah, what's your how long you're you're still on probation
luke rudkowski
is it yeah for a year see see boys. It's not all bad Okay, I just wanted
tim pool
The lady's like a bad boy, you know what I mean?
luke rudkowski
They do!
And hey, listen, we're all in this same field here.
Let's be honest here.
There's a level of danger for speaking the truth in a whole empire of lies.
There's a layer of, holy frickin' cow, I could go to jail for expressing political thought and expressions.
I could go to jail for expressing my truth.
unidentified
It's not that bad.
luke rudkowski
You'll get love letters and some nice ladies messaging you.
So it's gonna be fine.
It's cool.
tim pool
We'll figure it out.
luke rudkowski
But we gotta weigh your options, boys.
tim pool
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owen shroyer
I did think about that when you said the title of the song.
tim pool
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owen shroyer
Have you been contacted by Jack Black yet?
ian crossland
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tim pool
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ian crossland
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owen shroyer
It's a tribute.
ian crossland
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tim pool
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tim pool
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ian crossland
Maybe about 14 pounds of muscle fat, water, all that kind of stuff.
tim pool
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owen shroyer
So that's where the 15 pounds I lost in prison went.
ian crossland
I took it from you, man.
I was dreaming about you.
owen shroyer
I gotta get that back.
ian crossland
Yeah, so what's your plan?
How are you doing it?
owen shroyer
I'm just lifting as many heavy weights as I can until I can get back to where I was at.
ian crossland
I saw you said you started about 20% of where you were at, 25% or something like that?
owen shroyer
Yeah, it was like 10% the first time, about 20% the second time.
I'm probably about, like, maybe getting close to 30%.
It's coming back a little quicker than I thought.
If I was measuring it out, I used to be able to do a A deadlift front squat press with 170 pounds and I put up I think 130 or 140.
I put up 140.
So I lost 30 pounds on that which is probably the toughest weight lift that I would do.
So it's slowly coming back but I mean really it's just you're starving all the time.
You're sleep deprived all the time.
I'm going to get it back though.
I look at it as a challenge.
I don't look at it like a setback.
I look at it like a challenge and that's how you got to look at these situations in life.
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ian crossland
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Does that disrupt the code?
tim pool
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ian crossland
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ian crossland
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ian crossland
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tim pool
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Yeah, people aren't buying whole bean.
Yeah, so we're gonna reduce the amount of whole bean we carry, but we're still gonna have it.
Sam Good says it was so hard to find the video to the point where I had to go to a non-mobile website to even find it.
Your Shadowban must be back because of Owen.
ian crossland
Perhaps!
owen shroyer
I'm sorry.
tim pool
I've been trying to buy ads on Google and they're just in pending review and I'm like, that's weird.
Normally when we run ads it's like instantly just it goes, this one not so much.
But we are running ads on X as well and so far we have $45,000 in ads on X for the song because like I said we're going to be spending, I pledged advertisements on X, we're doing it and we're going to do more.
ian crossland
Dude has 221,000 views on YouTube.
tim pool
It actually has more than that.
Those are front-facing, so whenever you look at the numbers displayed on any YouTube video, the actual numbers behind the scene could be three to five times higher.
It really just depends.
ian crossland
Kent Welling, man, his voice acting is incredible.
tim pool
Oh, and it was funny because the Daily Wire crew was like, can you send us the script for the video?
And I was like, there is none.
We ad-libbed all of it.
It's just all just, we pressed go and we said stuff.
ian crossland
Let's go!
tim pool
What do we have?
Alad says, hi Tim, shout out to Together Again, you guys did an amazing job, the video was awesome.
Tommy Mac released a pop synth song as well, great minds, huh?
That's right!
We gotta do a song with Tom McDonald, that'd be great.
But it's the first day the song's been up, we have all till next week to get the charts.
I think if we sell like 50,000, that's around where you hit Billboard Hot 100.
And that's really the, like, that's the fingers crossed, let's get this.
So The Daily Wire is doing a big push as well.
Because the writing credit goes to Jeremy Borg and Michael Knowles, and then we get a cover credit.
It's like a modern writing credit or whatever.
But the idea that we could get onto their charts, when we said, hey guys, we have a song, they said, go F yourself.
We're like number one.
The first song we put out, and we're charting across the board, and they told us to go F ourselves.
The only way to force them to have to write about it, and I'm sure they'll talk smack or whatever, is to just push harder and harder onto the charts.
ian crossland
I think this is just a winner.
tim pool
Well, we'll see.
We'll see.
I mean, I gotta be honest, Only Ever Wanna did better than I realized it did.
Yeah, like, it actually did remarkably well.
And when we compare it to the metrics for our later music, earlier music, and other stuff that other people have put out, I'm like, wow, actually, that song did really good.
The response was really great, too.
People were interested for whatever reason.
All right, Daniel Galazzo says, Alex Jones Infowars is getting DDoSed.
NATO approves Ukraine plus none of the countries.
World War III is about to start.
Wait, NATO approved Ukraine?
That just happened?
luke rudkowski
I don't think so.
I haven't heard about it.
owen shroyer
Yeah, I'm like, that's like apocalyptic levels of... But they're getting desperate, so I wouldn't be surprised if they try to pull that.
luke rudkowski
There's going to be something that they're going to try to pull.
tim pool
Yeah, okay, the latest is just that Biden says it will happen in the future.
ian crossland
So is that guy also lying about the DPLS attack?
unidentified
I don't know.
owen shroyer
I haven't heard anything about that from the crew, so... But that stuff happens all the time.
luke rudkowski
I think Jake Paul just endorsed Vivek.
owen shroyer
Yeah, he invited to do his fight tonight.
luke rudkowski
Really?
I think there's a video going around on Jake Paul saying, you know... That's great!
ian crossland
He's awesome.
tim pool
Super cool.
ian crossland
You should reach out to him, he's great.
tim pool
I'd love to get Jake or Logan on the show.
ian crossland
Jake's the man.
unidentified
I mean, Logan too, but Jake's... I'm actually... I'm a big fan of Logan.
tim pool
Jake's cool.
I don't know a lot about him.
ian crossland
They're Ohio boys.
They're from my hometown, from my area.
tim pool
I've heard Logan talk about hard work, entrepreneurship, and success and stuff, and I'm like, this guy gets it.
That's why he is where he is.
I respect it.
Shout out.
Plus, like, I respect them, like, training to fight and do what they want to do.
luke rudkowski
They know how to get attention.
Exactly.
And they work very hard.
tim pool
Great marketing.
Yeah, man.
Okay, Jeremy B says, Hey Luke, what is your take on Donald Tusk getting elected?
luke rudkowski
Not good.
He's essentially a globalist and this is not really good for the people of Poland.
So I'm not happy about it.
tim pool
How do you get elected?
luke rudkowski
Good question.
There's been a lot of immigration into Poland from Ukraine.
There's been a lot of scandals with the church too.
Predominantly Poland is 90% Catholic.
But there's been a lot of scandals with the church as well that failed a lot of people.
So I Don't know.
unidentified
It's hard to kind of Understand it myself Dylan visitation says I pre-ordered the song.
tim pool
It's okay doesn't live up to the hype though Kind of disappointed at just my opinion.
Shout out to Eric July.
I have a pile of signed comics.
Thanks.
Well Dylan I mean, that's fine.
Jeremy Boring's the one I wrote it Don't look at me like all the writing credit goes to Jeremy and Michael Knowles.
Oh, wow.
ian crossland
So your opinion you gotta take Are you listening to it with enough bass, Dylan?
Try it with- make sure you're- if the device you have it on is the bass pumped up.
tim pool
You're allowed to not like music.
You're allowed to not like certain kinds of art.
The reality is, we put out some songs and then everyone's like, wow, this is my- this is my jam.
I love this style.
Other people are like, I hate this kind of music.
And I'm like, well, yeah, of course.
Like, I don't listen to country.
So it's like, if I'm part of a country song, I just be like, yeah, not my jam.
You know, whatever.
Have a nice day.
unidentified
All right, where we at?
tim pool
What have we?
Dick Dickerson says, I can't believe Ian beat a kid because the kid made fun of Grapheme.
Luke created a monster.
ian crossland
Fake news!
But if you see the music video, you'll know what he's talking about.
tim pool
Oh, that picture of Ian is so good.
Yeah, he's in cuffs in a jumpsuit.
He's going to jail.
Here we go.
The trooper says, before the first civil war we had a caning in the Senate.
Now we got a pegging!
unidentified
Things are gonna get weird this time around.
luke rudkowski
That's a good one.
unidentified
That's a good one.
tim pool
Well done.
Yikes.
Alright, alright.
What do we got?
What do we got?
Legama says, may I offer a limerick in these trying times.
Two staffers in a wrestle of lust in the Senate aroused our disgust.
Filming their tussle causing quite a bustle, their cheeky caper a humorous thrust.
The memes are already popping up on X. It was well done, but it's too much.
owen shroyer
It's too heavy.
tim pool
The memes of like US government taxpayer and... Good.
owen shroyer
We need that.
tim pool
Jeez.
owen shroyer
That's what's really going on in there.
tim pool
Let's go.
Paul Jones says, I got introduced to Eric through this podcast.
Been waiting for you to have him back.
Good to see Luke back as well.
eric july
Oh, shut up.
Appreciate you.
tim pool
Yeah, right on.
Always good fun.
Pretty Much Media says, Tim and Eric, my partner and I are working on creating a media company to make comics, cartoons, and music video games, and music and video games.
We're about to launch a campaign for a graphic novel.
Any advice for building up to be a successful company?
eric july
Oh, man.
Look, with I don't want people to get the wrong idea, you know, looking at our success and thinking kind of it's just one of those things that just happened and it's not, you know, I've been kind of building doing creative things for the better part of the last 18 years or so.
So I think that that's kind of where you start.
And that's kind of being personable, interacting with people, building some sort of audience
of people that you can depend on, building that rapport.
And in order to sort of do that, you kind of have to deliver, not kind of, you absolutely
have to deliver on whatever product it is that you're going to put out there.
So my advice, shout out to you and your aspirations, but my advice would be to pick one of those.
I guess you said the graphic novel, you're starting with that.
That's a great place to start.
Just make sure it's the best of your ability, doesn't need to be perfect, but make sure
it's to the best of your ability and take that thing serious because that's going to
be your first impression from, from the book.
from your audience.
So don't cut any slack or any corner, excuse me, with anything it is that you do.
But you're going to have to get out there and be a lot more interactive.
I think that's the future of entertainment now because people have been burned and given money to people that kind of hate them.
So people want to know who they're giving their money to.
So start there, though.
But shout out to you, man.
I wish you nothing but the best.
tim pool
Right on, let's grab some more.
Call Me Josh says, I suppose the Slippery Slope fallacy isn't really a fallacy at all, is it?
I mean, here we are living the nightmare.
Acceptance doesn't mean we have to accept everything.
I mean, that's one meme people were putting out there where it was like, 2008, hey look, just because two people who love each other want to get married doesn't mean they're gonna go bang in the Senate floor or something like that.
Well, here we are.
eric july
Here we are.
tim pool
Let's grab some more Super Chats.
Wyatt Caldenberg says, Oh, and how did the prison guards treat you?
Did they see you as a political prisoner or did they see you as an enemy of the state?
owen shroyer
So, there was a little bit of a mixed reaction.
Some of them knew who I was before I even got in there and liked me.
Some of them knew who I was before I got in there and didn't like me, but that was a lot smaller of a number.
By day 10, pretty much everybody in there knew who I was and had an opinion one way or the other.
The amount of times I heard, I'm just doing my job, like, hey, I love you and what you do, but I'm just doing my job, is far too many to count.
Um, unfortunately, so, you know, here's what it, here's where, this is why it's not necessarily about me.
The treatment that I received in prison is what most people in prison experience at some time or in some way, shape or form.
But because I'm blessed with a large following and a large platform, you're just hearing about what I went through.
My story, the solitary, I mean, there's all kinds of stories.
They stole or lost all my property, just all the craziness.
And by the way, I'm writing a book about all this.
It'll probably come out next year.
All the crap that I went through, just generally speaking, a lot of the treatment of prisoners is, you're just a number, you're not a human, nobody gives a crap about you, nobody on the inside gives a crap about you, nobody on the outside gives a crap about you, we can do whatever the hell we want to you and none of it matters.
But because I have a large platform and a large following, a lot of what I had to go through and I experienced is actually coming out and making it to the front.
So I mean, really, just generally speaking, Prisoners are not treated with much respect or dignity at all.
And we're talking about non-violent criminals, we're talking about victimless crime criminals, we're talking about people who have families waiting for them at home.
They really are just treated with very little respect and dignity.
And so, it's really a sad thing.
And that's not even a political thing about me.
I mean, there were definitely probably some people in there that didn't like my politics and maybe wanted to make it as hard on me as possible.
But it was kind of far, few and far between.
Generally speaking, prisoners are disrespected.
And look, if you're a high-level prisoner and you killed or raped somebody, then you know what?
I'm not really shedding a tear for you or you're a child molester or stuff like that.
I'm not really shedding a tear for those people.
It's just amazing how you're completely discounted as a human and any human emotions or feelings that you might have as a prisoner just completely discounted and they treat you like you need to just be numb to all this and you just have to accept that you're a prisoner and you're going to be treated like this.
So, you know, my treatment Had a bunch of curveballs and knuckleballs, but really, for my 47 days, I just experienced everything.
Somehow, I just experienced everything that prisoners experience every day.
And so, the larger story isn't really about me.
It's that we desperately need prison reform.
I mean, it's desperate.
A lot of the higher-ups at these prisons... I'll close it like this.
There's three types of people that work at prisons.
There's the incompetent and inept people, the stereotype of they just nap on the job, and then there's the power trippers.
And any time they get a chance to just trip on their power and just put you in your place and feel good about themselves, they're going to do it every time and then some.
And then there's the friendlies.
If you respect them, they're going to respect you.
But just generally speaking, my story is one thing, but Prisoners, a lot of these prisoners, non-violent criminals, victimless crime criminals, they're just, they're treated like subhumans, they're disrespected, they're discounted, they barely even get a scrap of dignity the way they're treated in there, and so it's not just about me.
It's a story that I'm gonna have to tell my story, but it's really what goes on in these prisons every day.
tim pool
I just have to take a screenshot real quick of this tweet.
So it's my tweet saying, was he the guy getting effed in the A or was he the guy effing some other guy in the A?
And then everyone started saying like, oh, blah, blah, blah, Tim.
And I said, well, it matters because we need to know if that's him on camera or if he's filming.
If he's filming, how do we determine it was him?
We don't want to falsely accuse someone of, you know, I'm keeping the language light.
It's not what I tweeted.
F'ing a guy in EA on the Senate hearing room floor.
The rabbit hole said, never deleting this app.
Rated X for everyone.
And Elon Musk liked it and laughed at it.
So I'm just gonna have to retweet that real quick.
ian crossland
Rated X for everyone.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
That's awesome.
tim pool
Totally worth it.
X is the place to be.
owen shroyer
Imagine if it's the guy who's receiving, who invites his buddy in, and then he films it and destroys his life.
And he's like, man, why'd you have to do this to me?
ian crossland
Yeah, if he didn't know he was being recorded.
owen shroyer
I mean, not justifying the behavior, obviously.
From that level, at a personal level, it's like, damn, dude, you really had to film me?
Like, I didn't even know you were doing that, now I'm all over the internet?
Well, I guess that's what you get.
Karma's a bitch.
tim pool
Alright, TheYeti90 says, if the DOJ and police would do their job, all the corrupt politicians and LEOs would be legally arrested.
And if they were, they wouldn't have to worry about being fired or losing money.
Trump Vivek, 2024.
ian crossland
I'd rather build a system that, like, disallows corruption than try and, like, whack-a-mole all the corruption when it pops up.
If we can build, like, less corruptible systems, that'd be nice.
I don't know if you'll ever be able to stop corruption if it's potential, if it's available.
owen shroyer
So what do you think?
Just shut down the systems?
ian crossland
Well, no.
I like smart contracts.
Like, if instead of, like, just relying on 450 representatives, if each of those 700,000 people, they each have one representative, could, like, vote on a smart contract, yes or no, and then that would go to a system, and then that one That thing would go yes or no.
So you don't have these representatives that get bribed.
You would remove that corruption source from the system.
That could be one potential minor solution in some way.
owen shroyer
I'd say just shut down all these corrupt federal operations.
Just shut them all down.
tim pool
I think the biggest problem is those guards you mentioned who are like, hey man, I'm just doing my job.
That is... If I was gonna say, like, on a scale of 1 to 10, where 1 is it's not really a problem at all, things are pretty good, and 10 is it's the worst problem our society faces, those guards are a 10.
You can talk about, like, Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden and all that, and those are, like, 7, 8s and 9s to varying degrees.
Like, big problems for our society.
But the only reason any of it exists is because good men do nothing.
owen shroyer
Yeah, and I think if we're looking, okay, so what's the scenario?
What's the outcome that we would be looking for?
They should have just released me day one.
tim pool
Imagine if every prison guard went to their boss and said, I will not do any work related to Owen Schroer.
Good luck.
And every single guard was just like, I ain't going anywhere near it.
owen shroyer
Or they just said, we're not going to process him.
We're not going to throw him in.
And then if the federal government puts out a warrant, they just say, no, we're not going to arrest him.
tim pool
I mean, so you end up showing up and you're standing there being like, tell me what to do, and all the guards are like, nope, we're on strike.
What would they do?
They could do nothing.
ian crossland
Hire scabs?
tim pool
I don't know.
Yeah, absolutely, by all means.
Call in people who will do it, fine.
But these spineless cowards who are like, I like what you do, and I believe in you, and you're right, and now I'm going to facilitate the evil of this nation while staring you in the eyes.
unidentified
Talk about fucking scumbags.
tim pool
Dude, I'm sorry, man.
Anybody who tries playing that I'm just doing my job game to me, you are the most despicable, disgusting, cretin.
ian crossland
It's the ethos of what the Nazis did.
My whole life I was told that they were like, all these Nazi soldiers were just like, I'm just following orders.
I'm just following orders.
And they knew what they were doing was amoral, but they're like, I'm just following order.
I'm not saying all of them, but there were a lot of them that said that.
tim pool
All of those people saying, I'm just doing my job, are lifting up the corrupt and the evil and bearing their weight so they can destroy this country.
And then everyone says, yeah, but they've got families and they've got kids.
It's really, really difficult.
And I'm like, I get it.
I get it.
Your family is more important than the future your children will have.
It's more important than being the hero who's going to fight to do something good.
Totally understand.
You've made your priorities clear.
I can't say anything about it.
I don't have kids.
owen shroyer
Well, Tim, I'm glad that you Show the emotion on this topic because it's really something that's hard to encapsulate, especially when I've dealt with it so many times.
The first time when they arrested me and they all knew it was wrong, they knew it was wrong.
They said, I'm sorry, but I'm just doing my job.
The second time they arrested me and they knew it was wrong.
Sorry, I'm just doing my job.
The third time, like you're saying, when I'm gone, even some of the FBI guys that came and were dealing with my indictment said, sorry, I'm just doing my job.
You say it, when you're staring it in the face and that actually happens to you, it's impossible to explain.
I mean, it really is.
tim pool
You want to know why on the scale Epstein is a 9 and those cops are a 10?
Because if those cops didn't exist, Epstein would have been dealt with instantly.
luke rudkowski
Yep.
tim pool
Think about the level of government involvement Epstein was doing, where they had to protect him.
It's a fact.
With those flights, and look, you've got presidents flying on those planes, Secret Service is involved.
And those Secret Service guys are like, well, I know what's going on, but I'm just doing my job.
Those guys are the problem.
luke rudkowski
Children came to the FBI in the 1990s and talked about what Epstein was doing.
The FBI ignored them.
owen shroyer
Let's not forget about the media.
Let's not forget about the media's role in this.
Amy Robach at ABC, hot tape.
Oh, I was going to bring up the Clinton-Epstein story, but they told me not to do it, so I'm not going to do it.
Well, guess what?
Now she's gotten all the promotions, she's on the big daytime show, she's making more money than ever before.
tim pool
Well, I thought she got fired because she was dating that guy.
owen shroyer
They did have some fallout.
I guess one of them was cheating on their spouse or whatever.
tim pool
No, I don't think they were cheating.
I think they were just in a relationship and they were co-anchors or whatever and it was a scandal.
luke rudkowski
Some people are saying she released it, uh, deliberately.
owen shroyer
Right, yeah.
The AOC Hot Tape?
tim pool
That she's the one who leaked it.
luke rudkowski
Because the story should have gotten out and she helped it get out that way.
owen shroyer
Well, the point is the media was covering it up, too.
luke rudkowski
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
No, they were promoting Epstein.
They were saying he's a great guy.
tim pool
I'm not so mad at her, I gotta be honest, because she's on camera being like, they stopped me, I was trying to do it, and it's a 50-50 situation where it's like, well, you should have still done something, but maybe she was the one who leaked it, I don't know.
It's different if she said something like, so I helped them cover it up.
Then I'd be like, OK, she's evil.
But she didn't.
She said she wanted to get it out.
And she had the story and she's pissed.
They suppressed it on her.
And then, well, shout out to James O'Keefe for doing the hard work.
unidentified
Uh-oh.
luke rudkowski
We have the shirt.
It is out.
Do you want to see it?
We can't show it here.
We can't show it to anyone.
owen shroyer
Wait a second.
How did they get this angle?
luke rudkowski
Listen, my team works very hard.
owen shroyer
Do you want to purify your eyes?
unidentified
Here's a calendar of hot chicks if you need to purify your eyes.
Wait, what?
luke rudkowski
How did they get this angle?
unidentified
Right?
luke rudkowski
That's what I'm saying!
unidentified
I have the best team out there.
owen shroyer
Thebestpoliticalshirts.com.
unidentified
Here's a calendar of hot chicks if you need to purify your eyes.
tim pool
Wait, what?
How did they get this angle?
luke rudkowski
Listen, my team, I have the best team out there.
The bestpoliticalshirts.com.
Shouts out to everyone, including Josh.
Put Ian's face on there.
unidentified
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luke rudkowski
I'm buying mine right now and thank you because you do and you support my independent media organization too at the same time so appreciate you guys.
tim pool
If we lived in a world where... I'll give this out to Matt Walsh.
And I think Matt would agree.
If we lived in a world where men of conscience refuse to do immoral acts, that satanic statue wouldn't even be in the Capitol building.
Because all it takes is for the people working there to say, I'm not gonna do that.
I am not going, we need you to come in and work security, there's gonna be something about satanic statue.
No, I won't show up.
Have a nice day.
Instead, it's like, you got it boss!
Hey man, I don't like it, but I'm just doing my job.
eric july
Well, this is why we call them the, you know, Luke will fill me on this, why we call them Especially the enforcers, the teeth, right?
Other States.
So we can, you mentioned Pelosi, or we talk about AOC or whoever it is at the end of the day, the guys that does that are going to be front lines.
And the first conflict it is that you are going to have is with the police.
There's just a, no matter what the conflict it is, it, that's going to be the first line of defense.
And if, you know, they, were on their stuff, let's just say that, and they actually believed they were serving and protecting the individuals within this geographical area, they would just simply say no.
And again, this isn't my quote, but the old quote is, Tom was talking about this, it's like, hey, they talk about doing their jobs, right?
And I guess the answer to that is maybe you shouldn't.
unidentified
Exactly.
tim pool
Sparks says, Tim, if Disney signed a $100 million deal with X, would you also call that a quote, win?
That one's a bit more tough, because Disney was already advertising on X, so there's nothing, there's no rectifying anything.
Uh, I would call it a win.
Would I call it absolute victory or anything like that?
Well, I don't know about that.
I'd say winning doesn't mean you won the war.
Sometimes you win the battles and sometimes you make small gains.
So, if there's a major, uh, like, there's a major battlefield with the Confederates and the Union soldiers, and the Confederates, you know, open fire and take out a commander, would you call that a win?
Well, like, in the colloquial sense of, like, it was good for them at the time.
It doesn't mean they won the battle.
Then the Union comes in and crushes them, you know what I mean?
But my point is simply, did you guys see what Sean Strickland tweeted out today?
luke rudkowski
No, I have not.
tim pool
Can you tell us?
Let me read it.
luke rudkowski
Can you tell us?
tim pool
I can, absolutely.
I can absolutely read this one.
owen shroyer
Sean was family friendly this time?
tim pool
Yes.
Oh, alright.
Let me scroll down here and find the tweets.
I retweeted it.
owen shroyer
Don't you love how the realest men in America in sports are all in MMA?
unidentified
Of course.
owen shroyer
That's not by chance.
tim pool
That's why I'm saying it's good they're getting money.
Sean Strickland said, unpopular opinion, January 6th was the most patriotic thing our country has done in a very long time.
To which I responded, thank you Bud Light for sponsoring this message.
owen shroyer
Do they sponsor him or something?
tim pool
They sponsor UFC.
owen shroyer
Oh, okay.
tim pool
And he's a champion, so that money goes to him, and when he's made political statements in the past, he said, brought to you by Bud Light, in some manner of speaking, so like...
ian crossland
I tell you, a foreign multinational company, I don't think that they would be that upset watching the U.S.
tear itself apart.
So maybe they are getting what they want out of it.
I don't know.
tim pool
My point is, he keeps spitting on the left, and so far Bud Light has done, Anheuser-Busch has said and done nothing.
They just keep letting him do it.
And so I'm, hey look man, keep boycotting.
Everything else aside, can we at least enjoy that?
Like we can all agree.
owen shroyer
I'll tell you this.
tim pool
It's fun.
owen shroyer
Because even though InBev, which is based in Belgium, bought Anheuser-Busch, I guess it was like 10 years ago or so now, most of the, a lot of the creative decisions still come out of St.
Louis, Missouri, my hometown, so I still know a lot of people in that process.
I wouldn't say there's a civil war within, you know, Bud Light or their marketing team, but let's just say there's like You're hard conservative wing inside and then there's like, oh, we got to cater to the left for all these marketing purposes inside.
And they're kind of always like showing each other numbers and saying, look, you were miserable over here or look, we should have done this.
So it's kind of a back and forth with all of it.
So it doesn't surprise me that Bud Light, when they see this stuff, they're like, let him go.
We're not we're not touching this.
We already suffered a billion dollar market cap with that, you know, gay tranny, whatever.
tim pool
Alright, uh, let's, uh, here we go.
What is this one?
Where are we at?
Uh, Talking-Talk-TakingBackToxic says, The statue is a red herring.
Why is there even a government building for it to be inside in the first place?
ian crossland
Afuera!
unidentified
Afuera.
tim pool
Afuera, indeed.
unidentified
Damn right.
tim pool
Why was there a government building for it to be inside in the first place?
ian crossland
Because walls.
They protect you from arrows.
I don't know.
Why did they build walls in the first place?
Because rain.
You gotta protect yourself from the elements.
tim pool
Alright.
Oh, we got a stink bug.
He's chilling.
What's he doing?
owen shroyer
He's been hanging out all time.
He's your government probe.
ian crossland
See you later, Stinky.
owen shroyer
Man, he's strong!
unidentified
Yeah.
owen shroyer
Yeah, they're pretty cool.
That's a government stink bug.
unidentified
It's a brown marmorated stink bug introduced into the United States.
owen shroyer
Hey, hey, come on, Tim!
He's just trying to do his job.
ian crossland
He's about 1996.
tim pool
They're from China.
owen shroyer
He's just doing his job, man.
eric july
He can't even get up.
tim pool
Alright!
Let's, uh, we have one more.
owen shroyer
He's just being tortured.
ian crossland
He can't get up.
eric july
He's like a turtle.
tim pool
AlienRobotGo says, if you have a million dollars today or ten million dollars in five years, which would you choose?
Well, that's a long, complicated question, but I'd suppose, of course today... I can't watch this anymore.
Ten million dollars is... Ten million dollars in five years is just basically toilet paper.
Based on the way this country's going.
ian crossland
If you know how to invest that money, now would be the time.
tim pool
Alright everybody, if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share this show with your friends, head over to TimCast.com, click join us, become a member, but more importantly, everyone, go to TheBestSongEver.com, download the song, it's 69 cents, you'll get 35% off all CastPro.com purchases, and you are helping Jeremy Boring, Michael Knowles, me, the TimCast crew, chart on Billboard, and um...
Our hope is that, you know, by teaming up, we can crack the Hot 100.
I'm not so sure.
We'll see if we can pull it off next week.
It's a holiday season, so we'll see if it works out.
But ultimately, it's a similar campaign to what we had, you know, the first time around.
We are trying to force them to acknowledge that we drive sales.
We have an impact, and we have a bigger impact than many other artists who struggle to even get anywhere where we are.
I'll tell you this.
Right now, Forward Facing, the music video has like 200 and some odd K. That's bigger than many mainstream signed bands already.
And they keep just telling us to screw ourselves, so we're just going to keep pushing.
But, uh, again, TheBestSongEver.com.
Owen, do you want to shout anything out?
owen shroyer
Yeah, please follow me.
I'm back on Twitter.
I got released from jail, and then I got released from the Twitter jail right afterwards.
It was great.
So my personal account is back, at all I do is Owen, and then for my political media, we share stuff like this, clips from this show that I'm on, TimCast, the clips we'll put there, at Owen Schroer 1776.
But the big show, the big platform, three hours a day, 3 to 6 p.m.
weekdays at band.video slash war room or the easier link might be owenschroyer.show and then I do a rumble show as well on my own.
We have a little fun.
We loosen it up a little bit.
Rumble.com slash Owen.
Great to be back here, Tim.
Thank you.
eric july
Oh yeah, well just go to Ripperverse.com.
We're smack dab in the middle of a campaign for you guys that want to get into comics, you want an alternative.
Go to Ripperverse.com.
AlphaCore number one is the campaign we're in right now.
It's wrote by the legendary Chuck Dixon.
You know him as the creator of Bane.
He did a lot of DC Comics stuff all throughout the 90s, all the Bat Family stuff.
Well, he's the writer here as well as Joe Bennett being the artist.
It's a little police procedural with superhero elements.
If you're into that, right now we're at like almost 1.2 million dollars on this campaign.
Orders are already going out since we started fulfillment early last week.
So just go to Ripperverse.com and you'll check it out there.
But man, it does feel good to be back here, man.
I appreciate you having me.
I've been here all day.
unidentified
Right on.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, this was a great show.
Thank you so much for everyone being here.
Owen, it's great that you're not in jail anymore.
So thank you so much for joining us.
You could send me your love letters on youtube.com forward slash we are change.
And then my web guy just messaged me.
He's like, we're getting hit with some attacks from Australia and IPs.
So it looks like the best political shirts.com is down for now.
I'm going to be posting alternative links on Twitter as well at Luke we are change.
So if you want to see the salacious, A very perfect shirt for family gatherings and this holiday season.
Christmas is coming up!
This is the gift you get your crazy uncle, or if you're the crazy uncle, you've got to wear it.
We can't show it to you here on Twitter at LukeWeAreChange.
I'm going to let you know when the DDoS attacks stop on my website, and then we'll be able to purchase the shirts and support my independent media organization.
ian crossland
We're at a period in time right now where you have a lot of power, like a lot.
A lot of power.
And you can do a lot of good and work within your community to strengthen your bonds, your friendships, your family.
Forgive people that have hurt you in the past.
Now's the time.
And we can move forward and transition this whole world into something new and really cool.
And we could do it together, one-on-one.
One by one.
And thanks again, Tim, for throwing that party earlier.
We had a wonderful Christmas party, company Christmas party.
It was super cool.
Shout out to the Gamer Maids on YouTube.
And I will be seeing you guys at Turning Point USA coming up.
tim pool
Shout out to Dutch's Daughter.
It's a restaurant in the Western Maryland area and it's amazing and that's where we got the catering for the party and everybody just annihilated all the food.
luke rudkowski
Thank you for that.
owen shroyer
The steaks were really awesome.
tim pool
The steaks were amazing.
owen shroyer
I was so hungry when I landed too.
luke rudkowski
It was perfect.
And we're doing a show with Tucker Carlson.
Monday.
unidentified
Awesome.
ian crossland
Super pumped.
So we'll be seeing you guys.
Is it behind a paywall or is it on YouTube?
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
It's on YouTube.
ian crossland
Awesome.
tim pool
It's AmFest!
ian crossland
We'll be seeing you guys bright and early Monday night.
owen shroyer
Is that where you guys are going after this?
tim pool
We're flying out.
So we fly out Sunday.
We're there just for the one day and then we fly immediately right back.
owen shroyer
I wasn't allowed to.
Probation didn't allow me to go.
They allowed me to come here, though.
My probation officer allowed me to come here because technically I organized this before I met with him, but after that I'm locked out.
ian crossland
Shout out to the people that are working that out, man, because it's super cool to have you, dude.
I'm glad you came.
eric july
Thanks for coming out.
ian crossland
And we also have this guy to the right.
owen shroyer
Yeah, great show, gents.
unidentified
That was fun.
Appreciate you guys both being here.
Glad to see you out, Owen.
Absolutely.
And, uh, hope you guys enjoyed the show.
Friday shows, uh, not normally that spicy, but today was wild.
tim pool
What a wild news story to lead things up.
unidentified
Yeah.
See you on Discord, imasterj.com.
owen shroyer
You know where I'm at.
tim pool
We will see you all on Monday.
Tucker Carlson will be joining us at AmFest.
We're super excited.
Thanks for hanging out.
We'll see y'all then.
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