Oct. 11, 2023 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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| Joe Biden stated that he's seen and confirmed that children have been beheaded in Israel | ||
| following the terror attack by Hamas. | ||
| There are still many people who are skeptical, and I think that's still fair. | ||
| But at this point, we have CBS News saying that they've gotten word from emergency first responders in Israel, and Joe Biden is making this claim. | ||
| It is still entirely possible. | ||
| Just look, I remain skeptical. | ||
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Skeptical. | |
| I mean, it's tough, right? | ||
| We saw what they did. | ||
| I watched another video today of Hamas killing civilians. | ||
| These videos, they exist. | ||
| You can watch them. | ||
| Well, certainly some of these videos are probably fake and repurposed. | ||
| There are some that are undeniable. | ||
| So when you hear that children have had their heads removed, I mean, the challenge is, it's more believable than any claim we've heard in a long time. | ||
| Now, with Joe Biden saying it, I'm not about to start believing Joe Biden or the mainstream press, so the only thing I can say to this is, take it for what you will, you decide what you think is or isn't, and that's the best we can do until we have some kind of hard evidence. | ||
| This is what we've got. | ||
| We also have one of the leaders and founders of Hamas calling for global jihad on Friday, calling on people to attack, target Jewish people, to target Israel. | ||
| And so I hope everybody is just paying attention. | ||
| You don't got to be paranoid, but paying attention because it's getting serious with this stuff. | ||
| It's kind of freaky. | ||
| So we're going to talk about that. | ||
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tonight. | |
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| Joining us tonight to talk about this and a whole lot more is Chadwick Moore! | ||
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Hey, great to be here! | |
| Thanks for having me on. | ||
| Yeah, who are you? | ||
| What do you do? | ||
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I'm an author. | |
| I'm hawking my book, Tucker, which is the official biography of Tucker Carlson, which just came out in August. | ||
| And I was almost done with the book when his show was taken off the air, so we actually pushed back publication, updated the book. | ||
| I spent, you know, last year working on this, hanging out with him. | ||
| I was regular on his show, which is how I knew him. | ||
| And everyone seems to be really enjoying it. | ||
| And yeah, that's basically me. | ||
| I'm also a contributing editor at The Spectator as well. | ||
| Right on! | ||
| Well, glad to have you. | ||
| We also got Hannah-Claire Brimelow hanging out. | ||
| Hey, I'm Hannah-Claire Brimelow. | ||
| I'm a writer for TimCast.com. | ||
| I'm excited for tonight's conversation. | ||
| Ian's here, too. | ||
| Hi, everyone. | ||
| Ian Crossland. | ||
| Hey, Chadwick, when you were writing that book, did you write about when Jon Stewart went on Crossfire, was it? | ||
| Man, that was transformative for Tucker. | ||
| I watched it in real time. | ||
| I think it was the moment it happened, it was like... | ||
| It was, like, humiliating, but also he took it seriously, because you could tell he had a respect for John, and, like, he became, like, a pioneer for justice after that. | ||
| It was incredible. | ||
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John Stewart did. | |
| No, Tucker. | ||
| Tucker, like, he started to step away from the mainstream and was like, maybe this warmongering isn't necessarily the right way, and he started to think for himself after that. | ||
| It was really powerful. | ||
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So behind the scenes, Jon Stewart, he went on that show and he lambasted Tucker Carlson and his co-hosts, saying Crossfire's bad for America, it's just you pundits going back and forth. | |
| And they say it killed the show, Crossfire. | ||
| Crossfire was taken off the air after that. | ||
| All of America was siding with Jon Stewart. | ||
| Yes, we hate this fighting. | ||
| I mean, look at us now, right? | ||
| After the cameras stopped rolling, John Stewart, who was there to promote his book, said to | ||
| them, you know, I miscame to town and he trashed you guys and got forwarded to a new station. | ||
| So I think this worked out well for me. | ||
| It was all planned. | ||
| And then John Student, the other guy was Tucker's co-host, whose name slipped my mind right | ||
| now, wouldn't take, John Student wouldn't take any of their calls after that. | ||
| He's a total nasty person. | ||
| I got all that in the book. | ||
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Yeah, I put all that stuff in the book. | |
| We'll talk more about it. | ||
| Yeah, we'll get Tucker and Jon Stewart in the room together. | ||
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Jon Stewart wouldn't take my call either when I wanted to interview him. | |
| We got Serge on my right. | ||
| What's happening, brother? | ||
| Yeah, I'm here. | ||
| I'm excited for another exciting episode of TimCast. | ||
| Let's get to it. | ||
| Here's the story from the New York Post. | ||
| Biden says he's seen confirmed pictures of terrorists beheading children in Israel. | ||
| President Biden said on Wednesday that he has seen confirmed pictures of terrorists beheading children in southern Israel following initial reports that up to 40 babies were butchered over the weekend in homes near the Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip. | ||
| Quote, I never really thought I would see and have confirmed pictures of terrorists beheading children. | ||
| I never thought I'd ever. | ||
| Anyway, that's one way to end that statement. | ||
| I think we actually have the clip, not here, but here. | ||
| Let's play this one. | ||
| I mean, I've been doing this a long time. | ||
| I never really thought that I would see and have confirmed pictures of terrorists beheading children. | ||
| I never thought I'd ever. | ||
| Anyway, I, uh, but there are countries in the region that are trying to be of some help, including Arab nations. | ||
| Now, still, with this, I'm not absolutely convinced. | ||
| And the issue is, one, I'm not about to start believing Joe Biden to do as corrupt as they come. | ||
| There are special interests that want war in the Middle East. | ||
| These people despise Donald Trump, and one of the biggest reasons is that Donald Trump was trying to bring peace to the Middle East. | ||
| Donald Trump was trying to remove U.S. | ||
| involvement. | ||
| We talk about how Russia did not invade Ukraine under the Trump administration. | ||
| They say, yeah, it's because Trump was serving Vladimir Putin. | ||
| I'm like, yeah, I mean, maybe it's because Donald Trump was like, this is none of our business. | ||
| We should stop supporting these terror groups, whether directly or indirectly. | ||
| We should stop invading these countries for oil and mind our own business. | ||
| And Russia was like, well, if you're not pressing on our borders, we're not, you know, we've got no reason to fight. | ||
| They get Trump out, they come in, and it's war, it's conflict, it's expansion. | ||
| And so this, this narrative is extremely shocking. | ||
| Based on the videos I've seen, it's, It's unfortunately, whether you want to accept it or not, it's easy to believe they did this. | ||
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Right? | |
| That's the scary thing. | ||
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Well, they also thought Trump was a lunatic. | |
| Yeah. | ||
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They thought he was a loose cannon, they had no idea. | |
| There was some meeting that, actually Tucker told me this story, I'm working on this, that Trump leaned over to Vladimir Putin and said, if you invade Ukraine when I'm president, I will nuke this shit out of Moscow. | ||
| And Putin believed him. | ||
| And nobody wanted to mess with Trump. | ||
| They thought he was a total loose cannon, which, of course, I don't think he was at all. | ||
| But that, I think, is a good impression. | ||
| It wasn't a bad image to have. | ||
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It was not a bad image to have. | |
| You kind of want the rest of the world, especially your enemies, to think that about your leader for sure. | ||
| Yeah, for sure. | ||
| They don't want to be able to predict you. | ||
| I mean, the problem right now is that the Loss of life is always tragic. | ||
| Violence is obviously detestable. | ||
| But Joe Biden is not a trustworthy president. | ||
| And so it is hard to believe anything that would come out of his administration, even if it is something awful like this. | ||
| You don't want to believe they would lie about being able to confirm this. | ||
| On the other hand, you just can't trust them. | ||
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Look at everything they've lied about. | |
| Yeah, and again, we've met also horrible than the year testimony from 1990 that got us into the first Gulf War I don't like the way he said the word confirmed in that speech. | ||
| He said these pictures I've seen Confirmed like it was like, um, he's dropping the word like they would there's a talking points Make sure you say the word confirmed when you talk about this I said yesterday, prepare for deepfake, that we're in another modern, this modern war. | ||
| It's gonna be technology you've never seen before utilized. | ||
| And when they tell you something happened, and then some days later you're gonna start to see blurry images or images, be wary, don't snap to emotions. | ||
| Well, there's a really funny one. | ||
| Don Jr. | ||
| posted a video. | ||
| It is extremely graphic. | ||
| It is brutal. | ||
| And it is of Israeli civilians being killed by Hamas. | ||
| Community notes We're placed on it saying old video and fake because a pro-Palestinian activist posted a screenshot of a thumbnail of the video over and over again with the date of 2016 or something like that. | ||
| But it is believed now that that was fake. | ||
| And the video is real. | ||
| And now WIRED has contacted the government and done a deeper analysis on, I guess, the metadata in the video and found Donald Trump Jr. | ||
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was correct. | |
| The video was from Israel. | ||
| And it appears that activists are trying to make fake screenshots to trick people into thinking they're fake. | ||
| Yo, we are in a whole new world of information warfare. | ||
| It's entirely possible. | ||
| That wired got bunk information from the government to convince us the videos are real. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| But I will defer to if you've got the Biden administration and Donald Trump Jr and like everyone's kind of like, yeah, this is probably true. | ||
| I think you're going to have to go with that. | ||
| If people who absolutely despise each other are like, this is real. | ||
| Yeah, if both warring parties are agreeing on it, then they might all believe it. | ||
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It doesn't seem far-fetched from what we know about this group of people. | |
| Nobody thinks this isn't something they wouldn't do. | ||
| They're undeniable videos. | ||
| Right, so there are videos where it's like, I don't know what this is, right? | ||
| It's a guy, and he's like running through a field, and I'm like... The video that Don Jr. | ||
| posted was tough, it's like people in a room being shot, and I'm like, man, that's brutal. | ||
| But then there are videos that are very easily and discernibly of Southern Israel, at an event where you can corroborate the pictures of the music festival, and you're watching people be shot, and it's just like, this happened. | ||
| Like, we know these videos are real. | ||
| That's the easy thing where it's like the story of these babies being killed, beheaded. | ||
| You don't need it. | ||
| Hamas did it. | ||
| And not only that, a mad respect to Max Blumenthal coming on the show and talking about it. | ||
| He's more pro-Palestine. | ||
| But he outright said Hamas's strategy is to target as many civilians as possible to use as bargaining chips for against Israel. | ||
| They are kidnapping civilians. | ||
| That's their tactic. | ||
| He called it a target of opportunity. | ||
| And I'm like, make no mistake. | ||
| This is not in dispute. | ||
| We know what they're doing. | ||
| I was thinking, you know, it's horrible. | ||
| It is absolutely, I mean, it's one of those horrific things you do to kill somebody and to kill a small child is like the most horrific thing. | ||
| But like, what's more horrific? | ||
| If someone cuts off the head of a baby or if someone blows up six babies with a bomb? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, Tim's right. | ||
| Like, you don't need it. | ||
| They don't need this to sell the case. | ||
| So the rationale for faking it doesn't make any much sense. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And the other thing too, I think it was, you know, there were a lot of people that were critical of Max Blumenthal because he does have a more pro-Palestinian stance, but he knows a lot about this and he actually pushed back on some of... There's a conspiracy theory going around that Israel knew this was going to happen. | ||
| And a lot of people are pushing it. | ||
| Some prominent personalities saying that they knew it was going to happen. | ||
| They let it happen because now they can use it as an excuse to go into Gaza and do all this stuff and bomb them. | ||
| And Max was like, no way, absolutely not. | ||
| He said Israel was humiliated. | ||
| There's a lot of private technology and security firms in Israel that pride themselves on being the best. | ||
| And this is true because I've covered this stuff going back 10 years with Occupy. | ||
| There are many surveillance companies that are born out of Israel that are like, we're the best. | ||
| Israel proves it. | ||
| This is extremely bad for this sector, the security sector. | ||
| And he also wanted to mention things, I don't want to comment too much on it because I'm not the expert on it, but the military doctrine that Israel has in terms of captured IDF soldiers is so extreme, he said, Israel would never allow One of their soldiers to be captured. | ||
| I mean the idea that they let this happen is just there's no way. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's more pro-Palestine. | ||
| I mean, I find it interesting. | ||
| I think the big problem is going to be the deluge of information, especially fighting war in the technology age, right? | ||
| We're going to have videos that surface from wherever. | ||
| We're already seeing that community notes are there. | ||
| They're finding ways to work around these potential safeguards that we have. | ||
| The thing that I saw a lot today was parents warning or parents groups warning parents to have their kids delete TikTok and all their social media platforms while this goes on because it's permeating through all the algorithms. | ||
| So you're having young teenagers seeing very violent images and of course that's easily serving. | ||
| On the other hand, if you're cutting all kinds of people off from information, not that teenagers should see violence, it starts to get very dystopian, right? | ||
| We don't know what's real and we don't know who should be seeing it. | ||
| We don't know where to stop it from coming from. | ||
| Man, the community notes thing, I think, was obvious. | ||
| It is good that you have these community notes, because some of these things are very easily and provably false, but I have seen, on more than one occasion, people manipulate community notes. | ||
| It's basically, if enough people say something is true, they'll just run with it. | ||
| And then you end up with community notes that are, like, unrelated to the tweets, or in this instance, someone made what appears, I guess the story would be, this guy's screenshot was fake, To trick people, and it's remarkable. | ||
| Don Jr. | ||
| posts a video, and then some guy posts some screenshot with no website address, it's just pictures of thumbnails with a date on it, and that was enough for people on Community Notes to say, Don Trump's posting fake news. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| I mean, is Community Notes any better than Wikipedia, right? | ||
| Wikipedia can be edited, and Wikipedia self-censors, so we don't really know what information is provable. | ||
| There's a reason we tell high schoolers you can't cite Wikipedia or maybe Community Notes in your term papers. | ||
| You gotta follow the sources. | ||
| And the interesting thing was that the source on this community note was some guy's tweet. | ||
| And now people are responding to Don Jr. | ||
| being like, WIRED did a deep analysis on the video and found the source and said, nah, it's real. | ||
| Like, it was recorded here, here's all the confirmation, it's crazy. | ||
| Apparently there are like other angles or something, I don't know. | ||
| Especially in Don Jr.' 's case, I'm sure they want Don Jr. | ||
| to look like he is promoting something crazy because of his last name, you know? | ||
| It's sort of a trap from the beginning for him. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Or... But then Wired was forced to defend him. | ||
| Which they did not like at all. | ||
| No, thank you. | ||
| We were talking about this before the show that there's a lot of people who thought they were on the same side who are now realizing perhaps they are not when it comes to this issue. | ||
| And I think that's going to be... | ||
| Obviously, I don't want it to be born on the backs of death and violence, but on the other hand, reconciling that it's not just the two sides and no one has any line of compromise is sort of a hard thing to put American culture through. | ||
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It's just so hard to believe because we've always known. | |
| I guess you're talking about BLM and Antifa. | ||
| Sure. | ||
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We've always known that about them. | |
| We've always known that about the college left, that they were super, super pro-Palestine violence be damned. | ||
| But I don't think mainstream left realized it. | ||
| I mean I may be not the one to ask but I think I think because I had known people who would come out as you know I have Jewish friends who have come out as pro-Palestine years and years before and it would really shock their community and I found that to be interesting. | ||
| It's not something that I would necessarily have a personal ability to comment on but I think there is more division than they realize because they're especially progressive left is used to being a unified front all the time. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Let's talk about Black Lives Matter. | ||
| We have this from ABC News. | ||
| BLM Chicago backs Palestine after Hamas terror invasion of Israel and this is causing a major backlash and tons of Democrats are now disavowing Black Lives Matter. | ||
| This is going to be a huge break in the culture war because now you've got Democrats who are like, wait a minute, you mean the far left we've supported want Israelis to be killed? | ||
| Yeah, take a look at this tweet. | ||
| This is an archive, it was deleted from BLM Chicago. | ||
| It says, that is all, that is it. | ||
| And it says, I stand with Palestine, and it's a, it's a paraglider with a Palestinian flag. | ||
| The paragliders are the ones who went into the music festival and started killing civilians. | ||
| They didn't more than just kill, they... Right. | ||
| Kidnapped. | ||
| Raped. | ||
| Kidnapped, yeah. | ||
| Uh, children and... So this is, this is an image explicitly supporting the tactic of targeting civilians. | ||
| Look, man. | ||
| We sit here and we complain about war all day. | ||
| And when the U.S. | ||
| has collateral damage, we complain about it. | ||
| We support Julian Assange. | ||
| He released collateral murder. | ||
| We see these war crimes. | ||
| We criticize Obama. | ||
| We criticize Trump. | ||
| Killing civilians is wrong. | ||
| Israel kills civilians. | ||
| We say it's wrong. | ||
| The issue, however, is in the instance of Israel, oftentimes what they're saying is they've built a weapons depot and a military base under a hospital. | ||
| We've given them a warning and we're going to take it out. | ||
| I say, okay, do I take Israel's word for it? | ||
| Well, the one thing I can say is Israel at least is saying that much. | ||
| We are trying to avoid killing civilians. | ||
| Well, okay. | ||
| I don't trust governments, right? | ||
| Everyone's got an agenda, but I can accept that. | ||
| You then have Barack Obama's ridiculous nonsense excuse for killing an American citizen in Yemen, they've never answered for, and that's evil. | ||
| But this is overtly celebrating the tactic of targeting civilians intentionally. | ||
| That's Black Lives Matter. | ||
| Max Blumenthal, he was on last night and he said that these guys were paratrooping to hit a military target and landed next to the target in the music festival and it was an attack of opportunity as opposed to a target. | ||
| A target of opportunity. | ||
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I don't know how much it matters. | |
| Wait, if he's being factual, he's being factual. | ||
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Yes, but in terms of celebrating it still. | |
| I mean, that image now is still the image of attacking civilians at a music festival. | ||
| It's not a, you know, the wind blew the wrong way. | ||
| We actually meant... Yeah, when they made this image, they knew what they were doing. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
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And they kept it up for hours. | |
| It wasn't like, oops, delete. | ||
| It was 20,000 comments or something before they decided, someone decided to take it down. | ||
| What I want to be careful of is, you know, people were being critical of Max yesterday. | ||
| They're like, oh, I can't believe he would downplay this. | ||
| No, no, no, hold on. | ||
| If it is a fact that Hamas was intending to target military bases, that would make sense. | ||
| They say, we want to hit military bases. | ||
| And then as they're coming through the sky, they say, hey, look, civilians, let's get them, because it is a known tactic to target civilians to use as bargaining chips against Israel. | ||
| Max said all that too. | ||
| If those are facts, accept them. | ||
| It proves definitively, or I should say, a journalist with a pro-Palestine bias explicitly told us their strategy is target civilians. | ||
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Why would they attack an Israeli military base on Paraguay? | |
| I mean, the IDF is scary. | ||
| No heat signature. | ||
| Well, what he was saying is that it caught him off guard, and it was humiliating. | ||
| It was quiet, off radar, because they're so low to the ground and no heat, probably. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| What I find fascinating in the whole thing is that there are many people Prominent individuals, many who are very critical of Israel, saying that Israel knew this was coming and let it happen, and then you have Max, of all people, who is, you know, much more opposed to Israel's actions, being like, no, there's no way Israel knew in advance. | ||
| They were humiliated by this. | ||
| Hamas was targeting the military bases, and the music festival was nearby, and so it became a target of opportunity for them, because it is a known tactic they use. | ||
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But that wasn't the only place that was attacked. | |
| Right. | ||
| They went to a bunch of villages. | ||
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A bunch of villages, beaches, anywhere. | |
| So it makes me think that their primary target was take out the military perimeter, and then with a secondary target of get as many civilians as you can. | ||
| It's evil. | ||
| And this is the problem, right? | ||
| I don't like war. | ||
| I don't like the conflict. | ||
| I don't like hearing about children dying in Gaza. | ||
| All these tweets coming out the far left saying, oh, look at all these innocent civilians. | ||
| I'm like, yeah, it's all bad. | ||
| It's all bad, dude. | ||
| But yo, I can ask this question of anyone, and you're going to get the same answer. | ||
| The pro-Palestine side knows what the answer to this question is, and they will try to avoid answering it. | ||
| What would happen to Israel if they removed all of the security fencing around Gaza and said, free movement for all within Gaza into Israel? | ||
| What would happen? | ||
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Oh, we know exactly what happened. | |
| We watched it happen. | ||
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Yeah, we watched it happen. | |
| We watched what happened when they tore the fences down. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's no question about that. | ||
| And so, you know, you talk to someone who's pro-Palestine, and they're gonna say, well, I mean, you know, it's like, oh, we get it. | ||
| This is the problem. | ||
| You complain about what Israel's doing in Gaza, but what's the answer? | ||
| Well, these people are in open-air prison. | ||
| I'm like, yeah, and if they opened the doors, it would be bloodshed. | ||
| It would be murder. | ||
| It would be massacres. | ||
| It would be war. | ||
| It would be, you know, a lot of people talk about 1948. | ||
| And how it was wrong for, you know, Israelis to push Palestinians off their land. | ||
| And I'm just like, it's war. | ||
| I don't have a good answer for you, man. | ||
| War is bad. | ||
| It sucks. | ||
| But the answer today is not to just make the war worse. | ||
| That seems to be what Hamas wants to do. | ||
| But anyway, back to the point. | ||
| Like, otherwise we're going to go in circles. | ||
| Back to what Black Lives Matter represents. | ||
| We also have a Democratic Socialist member of Congress. | ||
| He has quit the DSA and denounced them. | ||
| For their support of all of this. | ||
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Who? | |
| Who is it? | ||
| Uh, let me, let me, let me pull up his name. | ||
| Do you guys know his name? | ||
| I had his, uh... Jamal Bowman. | ||
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No. | |
| Was he part of the DSA? | ||
| Shree, here we go, we got it. | ||
| Shree Thanadar, congressman, he renounces, he's a, uh, let's see, a proud Detroiter, yeah, from Michigan. | ||
| Michigan's 13th district, and he renounces his membership in the DSA, saying, Today I'm officially renouncing my membership in the DSA after the brutal terror attacks in Israel, which included the indiscriminate murder, rape, and kidnapping of innocent men, women, and children, I can no longer associate with an organization unwilling to call out terror in all its forms. | ||
| Sunday's hate-filled and anti-Semitic rally in New York City, promoted by the New York DSA, Makes it impossible for me to continue my affiliation. | ||
| I stand with Israel and its right to defend itself. | ||
| There is no place for moral equivocation in the face of unadulterated evil as we have seen from Hamas. | ||
| I will continue to work towards the goals that brought me to Congress in the first place, universal healthcare, workers' rights, strong labor unions, equity for communities of color, environmental justice, and compassionate immigration. | ||
| My ideals have not changed at all. | ||
| I strongly believe that ending my association with the DSA serves my constituents' interests, as they expect me to represent them by helping to build a better, more just world, not fanning the flames of hatred. | ||
| Shout out to Ryan Long, who put out a video called, Actor Doesn't Know Whether to Support Palestine or Israel. | ||
| Because the fascinating thing is, What we're seeing here with Sri, and there's another story about a bunch of Harvard students who are being blacklisted, and now they're putting out letters being like, no we don't support Palestine, we're so sorry, we're so sorry! | ||
| The default position for a lot of these people was, whatever the narrative is, I support. | ||
| Whatever popular thing is. | ||
| Black Lives Matter was a current thing, we support it. | ||
| Uh-oh, BLM, not just BLM in Chicago, but LA, came out in defense of what Hamas did. | ||
| And now, if you tweet in support of BLM, you will get cancelled. | ||
| These people don't have convictions, don't have morals, and were marching in lockstep with what they thought was the power structure. | ||
| That meant when atrocities occurred on video and we see innocent people being paraded around, murdered, kidnapped, etc. | ||
| They ignore that and say, it doesn't matter, BLM is a popular thing. | ||
| Think about that. | ||
| I want to reiterate that because that explains the culture war so well. | ||
| For all of us, We can sit here and be like, man, it's really bad when civilians die, no matter who does it. | ||
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Right? | |
| What Hamas did is horrifying and it's atrocious. | ||
| We don't want war. | ||
| I'm skeptical of these videos and these stories. | ||
| Did babies really get beheaded? | ||
| Man, this is tough. | ||
| We try to be reasonable. | ||
| So many actors, members of Congress, Harvard students, Knowing these videos emerged, thought, but the left is in power. | ||
| So I will just agree with whatever they say. | ||
| And what happened? | ||
| Major backlash. | ||
| Regular people were like, bro, you just defended literal terror attacks on innocent civilians. | ||
| The problem with people that are obsessed with domestic politics and have no idea what's going on geopolitically. | ||
| You got to know both. | ||
| Well, and I think in this case, it's important to note that Black Lives Matter is essentially saying the tactics Hamas use are justified, right? | ||
| If you have a political movement within the or- Within the United States that says essentially using civilians as pawns, harming them to get your political ends, is worth doing. | ||
| That's a very significant statement to take, right? | ||
| We know the Black Lives Matter movements often end in riots and violence. | ||
| The fact that they're lining up behind this kind of action is something we should all be extremely wary of. | ||
| Yeah, they share violent means to an end philosophy, although... And they're confirming it on a geopolitical stage now. | ||
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Of course, yeah. | |
| Just saying. | ||
| They got passed off as being this peaceful movement. | ||
| And I think Tim's totally right. | ||
| Ultimately, you know, people don't know enough about these issues to be able to say definitively how they feel about it. | ||
| But they know they're supposed to say something. | ||
| That's why Ryan Long's video is so funny. | ||
| He knows he's supposed to take a stance. | ||
| He just doesn't know what it is because he takes his cues from everyone around him. | ||
| The issue is they don't care. | ||
| That many of the people who are waving BLM flags and these progress pride flags don't know, don't care. | ||
| All they're really saying is, I support what we view to be the cultural and institutional power. | ||
| And so when the institutional powers do evil things, these people march in lockstep behind them. | ||
| And that's what we talk about. | ||
| I've mentioned that the progress pride flag is akin to the Nazi flag. | ||
| Not in that it represents the same ideology, but that it represents people blindly marching behind what they view to be power. | ||
| This shattered that, and now people are panicking. | ||
| I love this Harvard student organization being like, we never meant this! | ||
| No, we're so sorry! | ||
| We regret signing this letter in support of Palestine. | ||
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Money, because we'll get our six-figure jobs when we graduate. | |
| That's right, because now they're realizing they're getting canceled. | ||
| The only thing they ever cared about was looking like they fit in. | ||
| No morals and no principles. | ||
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But there's also, and I agree with you, but there's also, I mean, there's this ethos in the white liberal, I'll say white liberal, but culturally white, you know, the Western liberal, I think you were touching on this too, and they're suddenly horrified. | |
| It's this mentality, and it's so racist, I know that word's so overused, but it exposes how extremely racist they are, that they look at people like Islamic terrorists, and it's the same way they look at inner-city violence in black communities. | ||
| And they think, and they look at Israel, and they're like, Israel's a civilized country, so we hold them to a higher moral standard. | ||
| We hold them to our moral standards. | ||
| These third-world people, they're stupid. | ||
| Look at their skin colors, look how they live. | ||
| We can't expect them to behave how we behave, and they're so oppressed. | ||
| So we can't, you know, Israel is held to a different standard. | ||
| They cannot behave like this. | ||
| These people, they just don't know any better. | ||
| And we have to be their custodians. | ||
| We have to stand up for them. | ||
| It's deeply racist. | ||
| The liberal ethos so much. | ||
| But then you have the more violent wing like BLM and Antifa that actually are like, no, we want to see dead bodies and we hate these people and we want communism now. | ||
| No, it's crazy. | ||
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But the polite progressive class, that's exactly what it is, and now they're having this moral crisis of what side to choose. | |
| Yeah, and I think that they're going to have a really hard time reconciling this. | ||
| I think when people want to do the right thing, but they don't actually think about the issues, they just think about what their friends are doing, they have no moral compass. | ||
| I mean, with these Harvard students, you know, if they really believed in what they said, they wouldn't have backed down. | ||
| Nothing should be worth compromising your values for, but It's not about values, it's about signaling that they have done the right things. | ||
| It reminds me of, you know, and it's a terrible comparison to draw, but it reminds me of all of the people who suddenly became excited about various causes, like after the Parkland shooting, all these students who were suddenly deeply involved in gun violence, and they would hold protests and whatever else, and then they would get into elite colleges because they were signaling that they were behind the right thing all the time. | ||
| I mean, that's how we got David Hogg, yes? | ||
| To what end? | ||
| What are we doing to better serve the values of the community? | ||
| Maybe they really stand by it, but ultimately it was the thing that they thought would help them get an advantage moving forward. | ||
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Yeah, of course. | |
| Like corporations virtue signaling, same thing. | ||
| Well, this is the thing we have to do now. | ||
| I think one of the challenging things coming out of Israel is just going to be the fact that so much, I know I said this earlier, but there's going to be so much information and so much visual media that there are going to be people who knee-jerk take a strong stance who then are going to back down and change their mind. | ||
| And I, again, with this congressman, I think that's a very solid move to renounce an organization that you have been a part of and at one point would have served you to say, oh yeah, I'm a DSA member, look how trendy and progressive I am. | ||
| I want to pull up this story from Wired. | ||
| A graphic Hamas video Donald Trump Jr. | ||
| shared on X's actually real research confirms a video posted by Donald Trump Jr. | ||
| showing Hamas militants attacking Israelis was falsely flagged in a community note as being years old thus making X's disinformation problem worse and not better. | ||
| The first thing I say is, um, many of these liberal journalists are really upset that Elon Musk is doing so well, so any opportunity to attack X is an opportunity they will take. | ||
| But in this instance, it actually ends up working out. | ||
| Trump Jr. | ||
| is being defended. | ||
| They're in a weird position where it's like, well, you know, I guess, I guess defending Trump Jr. | ||
| who's criticizing terror is the lesser of two evils or whatever? | ||
| In their mind. | ||
| It's all fake news and all manipulation, right? | ||
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I'm not going to play the video. | |
| It is beyond graphic. | ||
| Can you give a summary of what it was? | ||
| Yeah, it's a bunch of bodies on the ground being shot. | ||
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It's graphic. | |
| The gist of the story here, and what I want to get into with this is, it's all fake news and all manipulation, | ||
| right? | ||
| Somebody- I'm not gonna play the video, it is beyond graphic, it is- you did not- | ||
| Can you give a summary of what it was? | ||
| Yeah, it's a bunch of bodies on the ground being shot, there's- it's graphic. | ||
| Just, understand. It is- just- I- I don't even want to describe it. | ||
| It's people dying. | ||
| And you're watching it happen. | ||
| It is brutal. | ||
| And someone flagged it because they posted a screenshot saying the video was fake and from some other time or some other place. | ||
| But it was a false flag. | ||
| It was a false. | ||
| Likely someone made a fake screenshot. | ||
| And it's really easy to do. | ||
| You can pull up the video. | ||
| On a search engine, and then you can inspect and edit the script to make whatever dates you want to say, and then screen grab. | ||
| It's that easy. | ||
| Or you just go and paintbrush and just change it. | ||
| So apparently Wired did the groundwork and found, like, no, Donald Trump Jr. | ||
| is not posting fake stuff. | ||
| He's posting real stuff. | ||
| And it's funny, like, when Wired is defending Trump Jr., I mean, wow. | ||
| There's unity here in this country, I guess. | ||
| But I want to bring up another tweet here. | ||
| This is something I tweeted, and let me see if I can get a bigger image of this. | ||
| The first image is a tweet from Andy Ngo, where it's a Palestinian- Palestine celebration rally in Dearborn, Michigan, where the speaker says, When you go to a Black Lives Matter rally, you see Palestinian flags. | ||
| When you go to a white supremacy rally, you see Israeli flags. | ||
| And then a tweet from the ADL. | ||
| White supremacist leaders are openly celebrating Hamas' attack on Israel, cheering- Okay, you get the point. | ||
| This is, like, so much is being exposed here. | ||
| The lies of the machine are falling apart. | ||
| The culture war is just imploding right now, and we are being proven right. | ||
| This right here is one of the best. | ||
| Pro-Palestine groups claim white supremacists love Israel, and the ADL claims white supremacists are mocking Israel for being attacked. | ||
| Are both true? | ||
| I mean, this is nuts. | ||
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According to the videos I saw, according to the ADL, white supremacy has a perfect ESG score. | |
| They're just covering all their bases. | ||
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Yeah, exactly. | |
| And now there are a lot of people who are outraged that the ADL and the SPLC have not condemned Black Lives Matter as hate groups for supporting terrorism in Israel. | ||
| And Jonathan Greenblatt, who is the head of the ADL, went on MSNBC criticizing them of their coverage of this, because they were calling it, you know, militants. | ||
| And he's like, these are terrorists. | ||
| Who's writing these scripts? | ||
| Like, bro, You defended these people relentlessly over the past several years, and we kept begging you, stop, man, they're lying! | ||
| And now you get an overt act of terror, undeniable, and look, look, I'm seeing libertarians who are like, no war, no intervention, being like, yo, that was messed up what they did, like, wow, like, this is brutal. | ||
| And now the ADL nowhere to be found when BLM... I'm sorry dude. | ||
| The ADL is being insulted and attacked by Black Lives Matter who are supporting Palestine Hamas terrorists. | ||
| And they can't even come out and call them a hate group or condemn it. | ||
| I think it just shows exactly what these groups represent. | ||
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The ADL spent the last year telling, well last many years, saying the worst example of anti-Semitism is any time you bring up George Soros. | |
| There you have it. | ||
| And then now look at this. | ||
| We have all of it on video and just totally silent. | ||
| I would like to see the ADL and the SPLC publish their article saying Black Lives Matter is a hate, an anti-Semitic hate group. | ||
| You know what's funny is we've known this since the Women's March. | ||
| When Tablet Magazine published, like, they are pushing insane anti-Semitic conspiracy theories. | ||
| And there it is. | ||
| There it is, everybody. | ||
| You know, here's the problem. | ||
| This was, man, when was this? | ||
| This was like six years ago. | ||
| The ACLU defended Unite the Right in Charlottesville, saying, you have a right to free speech. | ||
| And then they started losing a bunch of donors. | ||
| And then all of a sudden, their message changed. | ||
| Money talks. | ||
| Like I mentioned, these Harvard kids who are like, no, we didn't mean to sign that letter in support of Hamas. | ||
| Whoops. | ||
| I mean the S.B.L.C. | ||
| in particular pedals in fear, right? | ||
| They're able to say, you know, you be nice to us or follow our talking points or we will put you on one of our lists and no one will want to hire you because we'll try to make it so whenever you show up you're basically a Google felon. | ||
| I mean this is how the S.B.L.C. | ||
| keeps its donors in check and it keeps its enemies at bay because it says we are the authority on morality and if we decide that we don't like you it's all over. | ||
| The thing is, they are corrupt. | ||
| They don't have any sort of moral standing to make that judgment. | ||
| They're just the institutional power that's there. | ||
| And when they are needed most, where are they? | ||
| Nowhere, right? | ||
| Theoretically, this is the time that they should be the most outspoken. | ||
| And instead, they're going to wait until one of their biggest donors says what they want them to say, and then they're going to follow suit. | ||
| Well, we need to lobby the ADL and the SPLC to put Black Lives Matter as an anti-Semitic hate group on all of their pages. | ||
| If they were really serious about anti-Semitism, you'd think they'd do it right away, but I don't... I'm questioning their... I mean, they kind of would have to, right? | ||
| I didn't even take the check. | ||
| No, no, they're not working right now. | ||
| They're not updating anything. | ||
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They're looking for what Nick Fuentes is saying right now. | |
| We're trying to change the subject so quickly. | ||
| Or again, like I said, they are waiting for their biggest donor to tell them what they're comfortable with and then they'll abide by that messaging. | ||
| I obviously have some hard feelings about these organizations, but I think they're just not trustworthy and instead they present themselves in ways to ruin other people's lives and to take money from people who really think that potentially they are doing good. | ||
| Because that's the hardest thing about all liberal causes to me. | ||
| There are potentially people who are, you know, Compassionate, who really believe these organizations are saying what they pretend they are doing, and it's just not the case. | ||
| They're being swindled. | ||
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Exactly. | |
| I don't know if you ever experienced this while you were doing your circuits on Fox. | ||
| I mean, you were on Tucker's show pretty regularly for a while. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, lots of Fox shows, not just Tucker's. | |
| But experienced what? | ||
| Experienced the... That you can see there are people who believe something on the left really dearly, but ultimately they're being misled. | ||
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Oh, absolutely. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| And you can't, I mean, you can't be angry at all of them. | ||
| You know, I've got like Democrats in my family that, you know, they sincerely believe it and you can't really, they don't have any, they're not bad people. | ||
| But yeah, these are, these organizations, it's not just, I mean, it's every organization you can think of. | ||
| It's like the Human Rights Campaign and GLAAD for the gay stuff. | ||
| It's, you know, that's all trans stuff. | ||
| But yeah, you're completely right. | ||
| I mean, SPLC and ADL are pure evil. | ||
| They're smear factories. | ||
| That's all they do. | ||
| Yeah, and collect money for it. | ||
| Semite, it really just means like a desert person, like someone from Asia and East Africa, and it includes Arabs. | ||
| Arabs are Semites, Acadians, Canites, Hebrews, Ethiopians. | ||
| So like, if you hate Arabs, you're also anti-Semitic. | ||
| Yeah, but that's not what the ADL has twisted it to mean. | ||
| No, come on, bro. | ||
| People use words to convey meaning, right? | ||
| And they also change definitions to control narrative. | ||
| And if we all understand what the word means, as of today, then we can understand what they're trying to say when they say it. | ||
| We've talked about this, when the left comes out and says racism, I have no problem saying, they don't mean racism the same way you do. | ||
| Right? | ||
| We will translate their version of class and race-based oppression So then, the definition of anti-Semitism that you're saying is commonly understood is that it's anti-Jewish, or is it anti-Israeli? | ||
| So then the definition of anti-semitism that you that you're saying that is commonly understood | ||
| Is that it's anti-jewish or is it anti-israeli? Is it which one of those? | ||
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Anti-semitism, the common understanding of the anti-jewish. | |
| Right. Yeah, so secular or anti-hebrew? | ||
| No one's saying it to refer to Palestinians or Canadians or anything like that. | ||
| Because it's not about religion, it's about where they're from. | ||
| It's really about where you're from. | ||
| But by all means, you can take issue with the use of the word Semite in this way, but we know the idea being conveyed. | ||
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Right. | |
| I do, I do. | ||
| But, you know, that's... So that's it. | ||
| I don't know why they hijacked the term. | ||
| I don't know that anyone hijacked it, that sometimes terms become, like, words happen. | ||
| Like, people use words... Xerox became a verb, right? | ||
| This is a common thing. | ||
| Kleenex. | ||
| Yeah, like nouns, proper names become verbs because of whatever reason. | ||
| And for whatever reason, for good or bad, whatever your criticism is, this is the idea of being conveyed. | ||
| I suppose I bring it up only because we are in an information war and it's better to arm yourself with the knowledge of past definition. | ||
| Is that really ever been a past definition? | ||
| Yeah, in 1770 it was created to describe all those people from that area of the world. | ||
| Yes, but anti-Semite. | ||
| Was that used colloquially to describe the people of that world, or is it typically just referred to Jewish people? | ||
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I don't know. | |
| Let's find out. | ||
| Yeah, well, we'll keep talking about the news. | ||
| Spread the narrative. | ||
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Let us know what you find out. | |
| You know, I can certainly understand and respect that there are people who definitely try to manipulate words to gain power, as we see with the left changing the definition of sexism and racism and all those things. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But if you're going to be talking to the average person, we simply try to just understand the ideas that are being conveyed and then, you know, push back. | ||
| You have to go with a colloquial meaning. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| Yeah, and you can criticize. | ||
| Like, I have no problem saying, like, you should use, you know, the word semi refers to many more people than just Jewish people. | ||
| So by all means, you know, you can be more specific and just say they hate Jews. | ||
| Like, that's actually probably more direct. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And you know, I think anti-Semite kind of softens the general idea. | ||
| Just say they hate Jews. | ||
| I was listening to one, I think it was a guy from Hamas talking, and they were saying that they wanted to eradicate, not the Jews, but Zionists, which is the idea of creating an Israeli, it's a political state. | ||
| It's not the, it had nothing to do with the religion itself. | ||
| And it was wicked Christians. | ||
| So like people that claim to be Christian, but don't believe in God or don't follow the tenets of the faith, like those aren't real Christians anyway. | ||
| Did you guys see what Lindsey Graham said? | ||
| We're in a religious war. | ||
| Do whatever you have to do. | ||
| Level it. | ||
| Level that place or whatever. | ||
| Thanks, Lindsey Graham. | ||
| I bring this up in response to what you're saying because, you know, everything I hear is, you know, it's the Palestinian people who have been removed from their homes and it's like, wasn't it like someone else's before that and someone else's before that and someone else's before that? | ||
| What did one of our members say? | ||
| Bring back Rome? | ||
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Yeah, this is the real... That's why you guys all think about the Roman Empire? | |
| It was Ottoman for a long time, and then before that it was Byzantine, which was like the Eastern Roman Empire, before that it was the Roman Empire. | ||
| I think it was Greek for a long time before that. | ||
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Yeah, there's like 15 different... Alexander, cognitive from the Persians I believe, I'm not sure exactly. | |
| Yeah, we're not in a holy war, Lindsey Graham. | ||
| We're not in any war, firstly. | ||
| Yeah, we aren't. | ||
| Yeah, put a slip on his part. | ||
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Yeah, exactly. | |
| I mean, I get, like, okay, so I'm the first to admit and acknowledge, like, I'm totally an emotional child and being like, nuke them, you know? | ||
| But I realize that that's my emotions and I can't really be, like, tweeting and saying that. | ||
| This man actually, you know, controls Warbucks and a member of Congress. | ||
| And same with Nikki Haley, she's saying the same stuff he is, right? | ||
| What is it with South Carolina? | ||
| Like, just today, right now, I'm having a little bit of struggle talking about it, because it's like, if we were just hanging out at the kitchen table, and just, I would be like, dark, dark, dark thoughts, because it's war, and we're talking about the horror, but if we're on TV, any little idea I have right now is like, could spark conflict, and so I'm like, I almost, I'm like self-censoring, for better or worse, but... | ||
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I think we're all feeling that. | |
| I mean, I think rational people are feeling that, not people who are senators on Fox News saying we're in a holy war. | ||
| Yeah, I think it's good to be cautious when you're talking generally. | ||
| I mean, I can understand working out ideas with friends or people that you trust, but in this case, having people like Nikki Haley or Lindsey Graham say, you know, we are in a holy war or, you know, advocating for more international theory, you have to remember that they are sending your family members to war. | ||
| I mean Nikki Haley does have a husband who's deployed to Africa right now I believe but for the most part they aren't talking about things that affect them they're talking about things that affect more working class mainstream Americans. | ||
| They're willing to make them make the sacrifice and I don't know if that's actually something we should do right? | ||
| I mean ultimately I know I make this point when I'm on all the time but the American government is supposed to serve the American people and so even if The two countries are having a religious conflict. | ||
| I don't know that it's our duty to intervene on their behalf, right? | ||
| Like, what is our obligation to our people first? | ||
| And I don't know that it's sending young men and women to a war that we are not necessarily invited to be a part of, even though some sides may want us to intervene. | ||
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Especially when you're a 70-year-old confirmed Southern bachelor like Lindsey Graham who doesn't have to worry about his children being affected by this. | |
| I mean, he doesn't. | ||
| It's completely right. | ||
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I mean him of all people. | |
| And again, it's hard to be online right now. | ||
| I don't know if you feel the same, but it makes me more and more cynical. | ||
| People who call for us to intervene or war, no one calls for something that they don't gain from. | ||
| So what does Lindsey Graham gain from this? | ||
| What does Nikki Haley gain from this? | ||
| What does Joe Biden gain from this? | ||
| Because the American people lose from us getting more involved in this conflict. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| Well, I hope you guys are ready for this. | ||
| From American Military News report, Hamas calls for global jihad, invasion of Israel, and attacks on Jews worldwide on October 13th. | ||
| American Military News is NewsGuard certified 100 out of 100 if that means anything to you. | ||
| And they say, a leading and founding member of Hamas, Khalid Mishal, reportedly called for a global jihad on Tuesday, asking Muslims around the world to target people of Israel on Friday, October 13th. | ||
| Video of Mishal's reported call to violence was posted on YouTube and remains up on the platform as of Wednesday at 10 a.m. | ||
| According to a translation, an analysis of the video by author Brother Rashid, Mishal referred to his proposed day of anger as the Friday of the Al-Aqsa flood, which will send a message of rage to the Zionists and to America. | ||
| Okay, so, you know, I'm kind of worried. | ||
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They showed their numbers this week. | |
| How many are in this country? | ||
| Should we talk about our sweet, sweet border policy? | ||
| Do we know how many Hamas individuals are in the United States? | ||
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No, no, I was saying with the rallies with the people who- Oh, right, right, right. | |
| You know, we saw, you know, that there are plenty of people out there that are happy to commit violence. | ||
| So I live in New York City, so that's obviously a prime target if people want to do this. | ||
| So under our last mayor, and I doubt that the current one, Mayor Nightlife, has changed this, and I talked to cops about this actually from my last book, the entire NYPD anti-terrorism unit was directed to only focus on white supremacy, lone wolf white supremacist terrorists under de Blasio, and I'm sure it's probably still the same. | ||
| And, uh, even cops I was talking to at the time were like, yeah, it doesn't exist. | ||
| Like, they're mythical creatures. | ||
| There's no white supremacist terrorists in New York City. | ||
| This one cop I spoke to was saying, you know, they send the NYPD terrorism unit to go train with the FBI. | ||
| And even the FBI guys were like, yeah, no, it's Islam. | ||
| This was a couple of years ago. | ||
| Like, don't listen to what they're teaching you. | ||
| But still, they took all resources away from Islam, even though since 9-11 there'd been something like a dozen either successful or thwarted terrorist attacks in New York City. | ||
| So is the NYPD prepared? | ||
| I mean, I haven't heard Mayor Nightlife say anything about the anti-terrorism unit and what they're doing. | ||
| I don't think it's just going to be New York. | ||
| I mean, New York's a big target, but this is the concern. | ||
| Look, Kevin McCarthy and Rhonda Sanders both pointed this out, you know, whether you like any of them or not, okay? | ||
| Our southern border is so extremely porous, and we know that several hundred every year, and now more, it's gone substantially higher, are on the terror watch list. | ||
| I don't know if you want to trust this stuff or trust our intel agencies or any of this. | ||
| I'm just saying, like, our border is open, okay? | ||
| And there are people coming through who are not from South America. | ||
| There are people from China coming through. | ||
| No joke. | ||
| There are people from Africa coming through. | ||
| And, of course, there are people from the Middle East coming through. | ||
| So if Hamas is trying to bring in sleeper cells, they've been able to do it for some time under the Biden administration. | ||
| When they then say, we're going to send a message to Israel and the United States, I have concerns about what that may be. | ||
| And it's the one time I hope the, you know, our law enforcement can do a good job of something instead of just framing, you know, rednecks for trying to kidnap people. | ||
| I always hope they can do a good job, but they just don't always do a good job. | ||
| I mean, the border crisis is something that has been an open issue. | ||
| And we know that other countries are not going to say, oh, well, America seems to be struggling to work this issue out. | ||
| So we'll just let them. | ||
| We won't send anybody. | ||
| We're not going to take advantage of it. | ||
| We have no idea what's what's in this what what the issues we have wrought for our country are because we have left our border so porous for so long. | ||
| And the Biden administration did nothing to stop this. | ||
| So should hopefully, you know, everything's fine on Friday. | ||
| Hopefully nothing happens. | ||
| But if anything happens, we should look directly to the Biden administration. | ||
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Did you see the Air Canada pilot? | |
| Yeah, he got fired. | ||
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What happened? | |
| He was just posting signs in support of Palestine. | ||
| Yeah, pro-Palestine. | ||
| People were saying, he was so radical in his speech, they were saying Jewish people should feel scared to fly with him and he was put on leave. | ||
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Wow. | |
| That's the thing, because you can be pro-Palestine and pro-Israel. | ||
| I want coexistence. | ||
| I understand the violence has gotten to a point where the vengeance is on people's minds, but that doesn't mean you can't support both of their rights and define interventions to survive. | ||
| There are Arab Israelis that live in Israel. | ||
| So I mean the issue seems to be more so religious and and I get the vital none I was talking to Serge about this before the shows he made a claim that it was oh I've mentioned this that it was about Zionism He didn't really mention Judaism and wicked Christians not not Christians themselves ones that purport to be Christian and like people the Zionism is the idea of creating an Israeli state a political state in that area of the world has nothing to do with the religion and I mean, you could argue then that Israelis, all Jews are from Israel, you know, Judah's father was Jacob Israel, so they're all descended from Israel, but that doesn't mean that every Israeli is Jewish, because Israel had a lot of sons, so. | ||
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There's a lot of Orthodox Hasidic Jews, I don't know if they're actually Hasidic, they look Hasidic, and I've seen them protesting in New York before that are really anti-Israel, like they're super against the Israeli state. | |
| Yeah. | ||
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For religious reasons, I don't believe that it's, I can't get into the exact theology, but Uh, yeah. | |
| There's a lot of stances. You can be pro-Palestine, you can be pro-Israel, you can be pro-Jewish, | ||
| you can be anti-Jewish. So there's a lot of things that go into this. It's not just as | ||
| simple as like, that's what Ryan Long's joke's about. It's not just one side of the thing. | ||
| He says, I've had all the stances. It's not as simple as that. | ||
| I'm pro-Abraham, yo, and Abraham spoke to God, that dude was legit, and he had an awesome | ||
| His kids were badasses and they spawned great tribes of people, so if we can stay focused on that guy, we have something in common. | ||
| Everybody wants control over the Holy Land. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's where it's been over 6,000 years. | ||
| I was reading that Forward.com wrote about the Red Heifer. | ||
| And so apparently at the beginning of September, I'll give you a really quick, simple version because I don't want to talk too much about it, but the general idea is that this is a symbol of the messianic era returning or something like that. | ||
| And so it's just Christians and Jews tend to be aligned in a lot of ways as to what they expect to happen and what they want to happen. | ||
| And so that's why there's coexistence, whereas Islam is more so at odds, which is a large portion of the conflict. | ||
| I was listening to the Quran last night. | ||
| I've been doing like 30 minutes of it at night or something like that and they were talking about Ishmael who is son of Abraham and he's descended from Ishmael come the tribe of Islam but he's like hanging out with his dad and they're just talking and I started to feel like I was there with him. | ||
| It was wild man. | ||
| Like you start to feel like you're part of that tribe when you listen to the stories and I imagine it's the same with his brother with Isaac. | ||
| I haven't listened to a lot of what Isaac did with his dad but like I understand the pride of being related to that and to know and to be able to track back your dynasty to the people because those dudes were like, for whatever reason, I don't know if it was like the strain of the environment that made them listen to God like under great tension. | ||
| You have no other choice. | ||
| You start to hear it or like if you're starving, you know, then there's better chance you're going to hear it because you're not clouded. | ||
| What should regular people do? | ||
| Right? | ||
| Don't panic. | ||
| But are people paying attention to this stuff? | ||
| I'm worried about what could or may happen. | ||
| I think Israel is gonna be on high alert, obviously, and this could be... This statement this guy put out is escalation. | ||
| And that's just bad. | ||
| Outright. | ||
| But if there's already ongoing attacks, there's already rocket attacks, if something happens in the United States, man... | ||
| I don't want to see the U.S. | ||
| get involved in another conflict, but it looks like that's where we're going. | ||
| With special operations being offered up to Israel. | ||
| And you've already got a bunch of politicians calling for direct support, more funding, more aid. | ||
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And war with Iran. | |
| This is making me think of Putin. | ||
| He made a statement, and there's a video of it, Jackson Hinkle tweeted it out, and he's basically saying, if men decide to fight, let them fight. | ||
| Leave the women and children alone. | ||
| He's in a bad place right now. | ||
| And I'm not the greatest guy on earth. | ||
| Even Putin standing with Israel is like, you can't do this. | ||
| We wanted some land. | ||
| Let's go easy. | ||
| Not that he didn't make life good for the Ukrainians the last few years, but you could say that maybe other people were involved in that. | ||
| I think it's morale crushing. | ||
| I think no matter who you are as a leader, let's say there's the red faction and the blue faction and they're at war. | ||
| Everyone as human beings have similar desires and understandings and despises seeing women and children killed. | ||
| Not every person, but of civilized countries, like obviously we're at odds with Russia and China, but you will demoralize your fighters If you're actively saying, go out there and kill kids, they're going to be like, man, I don't want to fight anymore. | ||
| Like it's just, you're not fighting for anything. | ||
| You can see, we can recognize. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| They got to, they got to trick themselves into thinking that the enemy is like a rat. | ||
| It's like not, not a human. | ||
| But even then targeting children is going to be extremely difficult. | ||
| It's kind of like a rat's nest. | ||
| Like you don't, you don't spare the baby rats. | ||
| You just. | ||
| Right, but my point is, in a civilized country, in like a modern developed nation, I should say, I don't necessarily mean civilized, I don't know, but in like Russia, for instance, if Putin goes to his troops and says, yes, what happened in Israel, haha, we're for it, he's going to demoralize his men. | ||
| I don't think Russia's the bad guy they've been made out to be. | ||
| It's like, the reason why we have these like war crimes and these laws is because we're kind of like, dude, we might fight, but, you know, leave the kids out of it. | ||
| And then we have that hope that the other faction may respect not killing the children. | ||
| But then, you know, one of the things we've learned consistently in the Middle East is kids are not spared. | ||
| I was talking to some dudes a while ago in the army who had been deployed, and they said the scary thing is, imagine you're in a convoy, you're in a truck, and you're delivering supplies, and then all of a sudden a little kid walks out into the middle of the road. | ||
| What do you do? | ||
| Gotta shoot him! | ||
| In the military? | ||
| And the kid has strapped a bomb to his chest? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And the kid could have a bomb. | ||
| You don't know. | ||
| What do you do? | ||
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Is it an enemy combatant? | |
| You don't know. | ||
| You don't know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Don't have the answers. | ||
| It's like, that's the difficult thing you're dealing with when you're over there, is they will use children. | ||
| They did in Vietnam too. | ||
| I mean, it's probably an act of desperation. | ||
| You know, the Vietnamese, they were living underground because the carpet bombs were so intense. | ||
| So they would send kids walking into camp with a basket. | ||
| I don't think it's desperation so much as determination to win at all costs. | ||
| I think they are willing to sacrifice for that. | ||
| I mean, that is something that they... | ||
| If you believe your causes is the most important thing you could ever achieve in your life, | ||
| then what is the bar? | ||
| Where is the line? | ||
| Why wouldn't you send children to do it? | ||
| Because then they are ultimately serving this great cause. | ||
| I just got a little... Cassandra just hit me up that the Biden White House has walked back the baby comet. | ||
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What? | |
| Really? | ||
| This is tweeted out from... Yeah, we're going to have to look at this. | ||
| Where is it tweeted out? | ||
| Evan Hill, at Evan Hill. | ||
| Clarification from the White House regarding Biden's remarks. | ||
| I've been doing this a long time, Biden said at the White House. | ||
| I never thought I'd see... Maybe... I never thought I'd see... Oh, man. | ||
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I see. | |
| This is why I say you gotta be skeptical. | ||
| Don't trust Joe Biden. | ||
| Washington Post has the story. | ||
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What? | |
| Yeah, that's amazing. | ||
| Let me, uh... Where, where, what is this? | ||
| It just jumped. | ||
| Let's, uh... Let's say, uh... | ||
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Uh, no? | |
| Like, he's got a screenshot here. | ||
| But he said he saw them. | ||
| And that he confirmed that they were real. | ||
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Yes, saw. | |
| Confirmed. | ||
| And then when you click the link to the article, here's what he said. | ||
| The spokesperson later clarified that U.S. officials and the president have not seen pictures or confirmed reports | ||
| independently. | ||
| The president bases comments about the alleged atrocities on the claims from Netanyahu's spokesman and media reports | ||
| from Israel, according to the White House. | ||
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But he said he saw them. | |
| And that he confirmed that they were real. | ||
| Yes, saw, confirmed. | ||
| And then when you click the link to the article, there's... | ||
| I never really thought that I would see and have confirmed pictures of terrorists beheading children. | ||
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I I never thought I'd... Hey, we all knew Joe Biden was a scumbag. | |
| But wait, he didn't say he did. | ||
| He just said, I never thought I would. | ||
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I never thought I would. | |
| ...see and have confirmed... ...pictures of terrorists... Maybe he's more clever than we thought. | ||
| ...beheadings... He read the script. | ||
| Yep, weasel words. | ||
| Assumptive language where, you're right, he didn't say he saw it. | ||
| He said he never thought he would. | ||
| He didn't, so he's good! | ||
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But the implication is, of course, that you did see it. | |
| Especially with his big emotional pause, like he's so overcome by his emotion he can't finish his sentence. | ||
| When I go to the Washington Post link, I just get in a dead link. | ||
| It's not taking me to the story. | ||
| Did they delete the story? | ||
| No, I think they're updating. | ||
| It is updating, but I'm not seeing what this guy's screen grab is not appearing on Washington Post. | ||
| Washington Post has now removed it because the White House has had to walk back their walk back. | ||
| Jeez, what's real, man? | ||
| This could be a fake debunking. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But he never said that he saw it. | ||
| That clip does not appear in the article. | ||
| So this screenshot from Evan Hill, who is a Washington Post Visual and Forensic Investigations at WAPO, whatever this link is, is not what he posted. | ||
| So I don't know where this is coming from. | ||
| So I don't know. | ||
| No idea. | ||
| Yeah, well, let's stand on Biden's words. | ||
| He never thought he would see it, and that's all he said. | ||
| So as far as I know, he never saw it. | ||
| He never claimed to have seen it. | ||
| He never thought he would confirm that. | ||
| I have no information. | ||
| He never said that he did confirm it. | ||
| It's not good, though, that the leader of our country is being so ambiguous in his speech in a way that could potentially be seen as inflammatory and calling for more intervention on the U.S. | ||
| It's not OK that it's not clear. | ||
| This is a time when we need clarity. | ||
| He is supposed to offer this to the American people, and he's not. | ||
| Yeah, he just wants to be on the rights of the history, you know? | ||
| Like Ryan Long. | ||
| He doesn't really know what statement he's supposed to put up yet. | ||
| He's waiting to hear it. | ||
| All I can say is right now, this tweet from the Evan Hill to Washington Post, I'm not seeing corroborated anywhere else. | ||
| In fact, all of the most recent stories from the past few minutes just show Biden's quotes of him saying, implying that he had seen it. | ||
| So that Washington Post link is dead. | ||
| So I don't know what he's posting. | ||
| So I assume it is, this is what I was saying, I'm skeptical. | ||
| I'm not about to start trusting Joe Biden, right? | ||
| There you go. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Did they run it as if he said that he saw, they ran the article that we read earlier. | ||
| Oh, dude, look at this. | ||
| NBC, was it NBC News? | ||
| Biden says he saw, he saw photos. | ||
| He said that he couldn't, he couldn't, he didn't think he ever would. | ||
| That's all he said. | ||
| I never really thought that I would see and have confirmed pictures of terrorists beheading children. | ||
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All right, look, if you want to get to Joe Biden, we would never say that you didn't want people to think that you did | |
| see it. | ||
| I think I think to actually verify what he said, you need the two minutes leading up to the statement. | ||
| I never thought I would see a video of Joe Biden mercilessly beating a child. | ||
| I never thought I would confirm it either. | ||
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Yeah, I never thought I would see them confirm it. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| You can't sue me, Joe! | ||
| I never said I saw a video of it. | ||
| You said you never thought you'd see one. | ||
| Exactly! | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Oh, jeez. | ||
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Oh my god. | |
| Wow, this is the beginning, man. | ||
| This is like, this is the future of warfare, is your mind. | ||
| Future, man. | ||
| If they can get you to turn on your neighbors, like, that's how, that's the best way to win is to get your enemy to turn on itself. | ||
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Alex Jones is ahead of the curve. | |
| Info Wars. | ||
| We need the Info Wars. | ||
| Yeah, definitely. | ||
| That's weird. | ||
| These are wild times, man. | ||
| Totally crazy. | ||
| These are wild times, my friends. | ||
| Do you want to know how wild these times are? | ||
| It's this wild. | ||
| Cenk Uygur has formally announced he is running for president. | ||
| Good. | ||
| Oh, wonderful. | ||
| And so we went over this before. | ||
| Phil Labonte tweeted at him and said, I thought you were born in Turkey. | ||
| Apparently his parents were U.S. | ||
| citizens. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Wow, no way. | ||
| So he was born in Turkey. | ||
| That's what people are saying. | ||
| He was born in Turkey. | ||
| You can Ted Cruz way into this. | ||
| His parents were Turkish, but were also American citizens. | ||
| That means that he was born of American citizen parents, and that would, like, write Ted Cruz. | ||
| He says, yes, I'm running against Joe Biden for the Democratic nomination. | ||
| Joe Biden is down 24 points on the economy. | ||
| He has no ability to make up that kind of ground on the most important issue. | ||
| We need a new candidate now. | ||
| Here's his website. | ||
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Is that a third party? | |
| No, I just gotta say. | ||
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Is that gonna run in the DSA? | |
| What is this? | ||
| Bro, hold on. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I'm kind of upset about this. | ||
| This website is poorly done. | ||
| It is. | ||
| No, for real. | ||
| Like, come on, man. | ||
| This makes me think he's absolutely not serious at all about this. | ||
| And it's like, here's a chance to get a big platform. | ||
| This does not look like a legitimate web... I don't know. | ||
| Maybe I'm just being a dick. | ||
| I mean, it looks like it's from like 1978. | ||
| It looks like he whipped it together like three days ago. | ||
| Like he just started thinking... | ||
| But he talked about this several weeks ago. | ||
| He has like a month or two ago. | ||
| I'm sure you've been thinking about it for years. | ||
| The most important election of our lifetimes, we need a new candidate. | ||
| He says Biden is 13 points lower than when he barely beat Trump in the Electoral College, 44,000 votes. | ||
| Biden is 24 points behind Trump on the economy, the most important issue. | ||
| Biden is currently trailing Trump when he has to win the popular vote by five points to win the Electoral College. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| He says, time off for mothers, paid family leave, higher wages, $50 minimum wage, affordable health insurance, public option, fight corruption, end gerrymandering. | ||
| Uh, the end gerrymandering thing is like, extremely naive. | ||
| I think that's just like... Yeah, because like, we've talked about quite a bit. | ||
| These people will be like, have you ever looked at a congressional map, and you notice there's like a block here, and there's like a little thin line, and then a block there? | ||
| Yeah, the reason for that, sometimes, Or I should say, the general reason for it is you don't need a congressional district on dead farmland. | ||
| Like, that's one guy who lives there. | ||
| You don't need a congressional district on, like, a big plot of government property either. | ||
| The congressional districts are where people are. | ||
| And so that means congressional districts are going to be shaped very oddly. | ||
| That being said, fair point, it is typical among political parties to try and figure out how to win as many congressional seats through gerrymandering. | ||
| So that I understand. | ||
| But a lot of the arguments they make for it We don't want to end gerrymandering. | ||
| We don't want to end this. | ||
| We want maps to be drawn out, but we probably want a more fair method, a more appropriate method. | ||
| But I think the actual reality is there is no legitimate way to do it any differently, right? | ||
| That's just it. | ||
| There's no way to be like, it should just guarantee for Democrats or Republicans. | ||
| But anyway, outside of that. | ||
| You could do a random subsect of people within an area and be like, if you draw one, then you're going to be part of, This caucus this time, if you're draw two, then you're part of this caucus. | ||
| So your vote goes towards the related caucus. | ||
| So it doesn't matter where you live. | ||
| Your vote doesn't go to your locality. | ||
| It goes to a random, because we're kind of decentralizing where it's not about like, it's all not local anymore. | ||
| It's, you know, like a polling place, right? | ||
| Like, that would be very difficult for polling places to To pull off, I think, because I just feel like that's such a precarious bureaucratic system already. | ||
| Can we add Cenk to the polling aggregates now that he's an officially declared candidate? | ||
| For sure, he's a far superior candidate to Joe Biden. | ||
| Would you like to see a Cenk-Biden debate? | ||
| Because I feel like that could be really entertaining. | ||
| Cenk would run circles around Joe Biden. | ||
| I think a lot of people would run circles around Joe Biden. | ||
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To be fair. | |
| I want to see an Ian Crosland-Joe Biden debate. | ||
| Joe Biden would be confused the whole time. | ||
| I'd love to. | ||
| I'd listen to him till his brain starts to work again, and he'd be like 20 years younger. | ||
| That's my goal with Joe Biden. | ||
| Get him to snap out of it and remember who he is. | ||
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I want to see a Joe Biden-Vivek debate so bad. | |
| Can you imagine the racist things that Joe Biden would say? | ||
| Oh, it'd be so funny. | ||
| He's easy to humiliate, but I'm concerned that he's our commander, so I want him to be strong until he's no longer the commander. | ||
| Then I don't care what he does. | ||
| Tommy is 80 years old, dude. | ||
| He's not going to snap out of it. | ||
| He's going to degrade. | ||
| It's called neurogenesis. | ||
| It's certainly possible. | ||
| Here's what you do. | ||
| You pump him full of NAD and stem cells. | ||
| And psilocybin. | ||
| And sure, that too, I guess. | ||
| I don't know about pump full of, but yeah. | ||
| What about, Cenk, joining the Gavin Newsom-DeSantis debate on November 30th? | ||
| I'm for it. | ||
| I'm totally for it. | ||
| I want Cenk on the debate stage. | ||
| I think Cenk would do better in the debates than Newsom and DeSantis. | ||
| No question. | ||
| I mean, Cenk Uygur is a media personality. | ||
| He talks for a living. | ||
| I think it would be absolutely fantastic. | ||
| I'm willing to bet he would say a lot of things you'd actually agree with, too. | ||
| I think Cenk Uygur would be a better candidate than anything the Democrats have to offer right now. | ||
| But I would, I don't want Cenk to win. | ||
| But that's why I've said before, it's like I'd rather, I'd probably rather have him than any of the other Democrats. | ||
| At the very least, I think he could be pressured into a pardoning Assange. | ||
| You know, it's gonna be bad. | ||
| I think his policies are bad. | ||
| But I'm more inclined to believe we're gonna, we will get less war with Cenk than with any other Democrat. | ||
| Newsom is gonna be like, you know, just like B-tier Hillary Clinton. | ||
| There's more neoliberal establishment garbage. | ||
| This is great news that he's running. | ||
| I'm glad that he's running. | ||
| I want more anti-establishment. | ||
| I want more, you know, different political backgrounds to be challenging the machine. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| We could get him in here. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| ChunkYogurt24. | ||
| Should we bring him in here with somebody to debate? | ||
| We have invited this guy to come on the show like 87 times. | ||
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Now he's on the campaign trail, so he really wants to be here. | |
| We've hosted multiple presidential candidates, I'm just gonna say it. | ||
| I would love to have him on the Culture War show with Phil or maybe someone else. | ||
| Yeah, I'll come on. | ||
| To have like a calm conversation about these issues. | ||
| I mean, yeah, maybe if it was like you, me, Phil and him, specifically just Culture War discussing policy and stuff. | ||
| Whereas, you know, like IRLs, like we have a bunch of news articles that we go through. | ||
| This is the big news! | ||
| Cenk just announced he's running, that's why we're talking about it. | ||
| Culture War is Friday mornings, and it's usually much more just like, we're gonna talk for two hours about whatever we feel like talking about, wherever the conversation goes. | ||
| I'm down, let's, let's, you know, I'll send a message, see if we can book him. | ||
| Cool, nice. | ||
| I, I, I, I'm glad that he's running. | ||
| I think he's better than all the Democrats, I do. | ||
| And I, and I, I, like, if I had a choice between him or Trump, I'm voting for Trump, no question. | ||
| But, I mean, to be completely honest, If I had a choice between Joe Biden or Mitt Romney, I'm out. | ||
| I don't know what Romney's up to, but Biden's so low right now. | ||
| Romney's retiring. | ||
| He said, I need to leave because I'm too old. | ||
| But how about this? | ||
| That's admirable. | ||
| Joe Biden or Nikki Haley? | ||
| Nikki Haley. | ||
| I can't take the old man, he's not there. | ||
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He's got Nikki Haley, I know. | |
| No, no way. | ||
| Nuh-uh, not happening. | ||
| Nikki Haley is like... I don't want to go to war with Iran, I'm sorry. | ||
| Just vote for RFK at that point, you know? | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| We have the nice independent, he's there for a reason, guys. | ||
| But I don't even like RFK. | ||
| The reason I bring this up is, where is Cenk on the top ten list of who you would consider voting for? | ||
| I would say that's three. | ||
| He's up there for me. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He's certainly not on the, I never would, because he has a light anti-establishment bent, but he is still fairly establishment. | ||
| But I can respect that he argued with Hassan about letting criminals out of prisons. | ||
| And I think, I would look, if I'm looking at Nikki Haley and Joe Biden, and the only other candidate was like, I'll pardon Julian Assange, I'd vote for, I'd vote for Jared. | ||
| Like, that issue matters a lot to me. | ||
| I think that was an outright egregious evil committed by the United States. | ||
| I think Donald Trump wanted to bring Julian Assange back to the U.S. | ||
| because Julian had information that would benefit Donald Trump and strike at the heart of the deep state. | ||
| I can respect Trump wanting that information, but ordering that tradition of Julian Assange is just using a man's life for political purposes. | ||
| But, you know, that's about all I can say. | ||
| I think that's how it would break down for a lot of people. | ||
| They would then look at what are my top two issues and who is most closely aligned on those, even if everywhere else I don't agree with them. | ||
| I mean, if you have two candidates you really don't like, you pick the one that has at least a chance of giving something you want. | ||
| Well, maybe he'll run as an independent and then really spike the Democratic Party. | ||
| That'd be so funny. | ||
| We have multiple independents in the race. | ||
| But y'all need to understand this. | ||
| I support Cenk Uygur's efforts here 1 million percent for another reason as well. | ||
| He doesn't need to run as an independent to spike Democrats. | ||
| By running, he is pulling donations away from other Democratic candidates. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| And donations matter. | ||
| Contributions matter. | ||
| Spend matters. | ||
| And so if Joe Biden was running as the incumbent unopposed, which he should have been in any normal cycle, but because the dude's brain don't work, he's got competition. | ||
| All those donations are in his pocket. | ||
| It's one of the reasons incumbents tend to win. | ||
| That all the money flows to them. | ||
| They don't have to beat up a primary, for lack of a better term. | ||
| And right now what Cenk is doing is basically saying, donate to me, and progressives will. | ||
| They will. | ||
| And then not every single one, but a lot of them. | ||
| And that's money that Joe Biden could use that he won't be having. | ||
| It sort of feels like me and Cenk Uygur and Matt Gaetz were really good friends that used to hang out at Taco Bell and talk politics. | ||
| Like, that's how I see those guys. | ||
| Tempers flare, but I don't care. | ||
| It was more about the ideas. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| I love that they're so intense and in their own lane and they're doing their own and they're willing to run for president like... This was the most compelling thing that RFK Jr. | ||
| said during his announcement that he's going to be an independent, which is that it should be about serving the people and it should not be about I'm going to... He said there has to be a moment where you realize you're not going to get your way on everything. | ||
| And it's not that I think he is the perfect candidate, but I think this idea that we have to give up the addiction to fighting for the one side we've stuck ourselves on is worth hearing, right? | ||
| I mean, and we are seeing it bear itself out right now as the news plays out. | ||
| I cut you off. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
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No, no, no, no. | |
| That was great. | ||
| I forgot what I was going to say. | ||
| Were you always conservative or where did you develop politically? | ||
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Oh, I was one of those 2016 babies that was like always voted left. | |
| And what changed? | ||
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I was sent to, I started doing a bunch of stories that year that were very, because I wasn't really, I mean I was writing for like the New York Times, I was writing for all these liberal places, but I wasn't super political and that summer, Pulse happened, I was reporting on that, that affected me a lot, Islamic terrorist attack. | |
| And then I profiled Milo Yiannopoulos for a magazine, which is the first time I'd met him. | ||
| And then, you know, you're saying all these things. | ||
| I was like, I've never heard anyone say that before. | ||
| That's exactly what I think. | ||
| But it was just sort of, I mean, it was a basic thing of just looking like for the, you know, suddenly looking into everything that I thought, you know, I was one of those, like, I, of course, I believe in equality. | ||
| I'm a Democrat, you know, I work in the arts. | ||
| But then I started looking into everything. | ||
| I'm like, whoa, they're lying about this. | ||
| And if they're lying about that, why are they lying? | ||
| Why do they have to lie if they're so right? | ||
| And then I never really, I think a lot of, and I think a lot of young people are like this too on the left is they don't really think of the end game of what they're advocating for. | ||
| I'd never just really given it much thought. | ||
| It was just the platitudes. | ||
| And in your social circle, it sounds like. | ||
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Oh yeah, absolutely. | |
| And then of course I came out as, you know, not left. | ||
| I don't really say conservative anymore. | ||
| I think I said conservative for like a minute, but I don't really know what that means. | ||
| So yeah, you know what I mean? | ||
| Like, oh yeah, I was like fired from all my jobs and all that stuff. | ||
| But yeah, that was mine. | ||
| I want to pull up this tweet. | ||
| Ben Shapiro is getting into it with Tucker Carlson. | ||
| Shapiro responds to Carlson's moral equivalency struggle session here, and I'll play a little bit from Ben for you guys. | ||
| Tucker, by the way, then continued along these lines. | ||
| He did an interview with Vivek Ramaswamy, and he likened what just happened in Israel, the kidnapping of women and their rape. | ||
| I mean, he's showing video of this happening, like, as he's talking about this. | ||
| He compared that to drug overdose deaths in the United States. | ||
| Now, I believe we should fully care about the 100,000 drug overdose deaths that happen in the United States. | ||
| These are two completely different issues. | ||
| To go this far afield to link the issues, the only reason you're doing this is because you wish to downplay the atrocity that just happened in Israel. | ||
| You're not upplaying the atrocity of what's happening on America's streets. | ||
| Those are two different types of atrocities. | ||
| People who are addicted to fentanyl, sticking needles in their arms, and overdosing is a moral blight. | ||
| It is a moral atrocity and a moral evil for people to kidnap women, rape them, and drag them back to the Gaza border. | ||
| Those are not the same thing. | ||
| So uh, oh man this is interesting. | ||
| Saying that Tucker is trying to downplay the atrocities of what happened, that's a bold | ||
| statement from Tucker. | ||
| Let me play a little bit here from Ben. | ||
| I'm from Ben, sorry. | ||
| Let me play a little bit from Tucker here. | ||
| I gotta say, you mentioned moral outrage and I thought the videos from Southern Israel | ||
| were morally outrageous and I was offended by them and saddened by them. | ||
| Me too. | ||
| Anyone who saw them, I think, was. | ||
| But you don't have to look far in the United States for moral outrages also on video. | ||
| There's not a city in this country, not just the big cities, but cities of 10,000 people. | ||
| I was in one yesterday, that doesn't have some constellation of drug-addicted young people living outside. | ||
| They call them the homeless. | ||
| They're drug addicts. | ||
| And they're addicted to drugs that were imported across an open border, allowed by the Biden administration. | ||
| And they're dying, more than 100,000 a year. | ||
| Now, you can call it genocide, you can call it whatever you want, but it's the death of over 100,000 Americans a year and the living death of millions more who are living outside. | ||
| So, this is interesting because Tucker's talking about 100,000 young people dying from these failed policies. | ||
| Ben's making it seem like he's just comparing drug overdoses in general to what we just saw happen in Israel. | ||
| I'm curious what you guys think. | ||
| Whose team are you on? | ||
| Team Tucker or Team Shapiro? | ||
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Well, obviously... | |
| Here's Ben Shapiro putting a muzzle in someone's back because he's not crying hard enough about, you know, Ben's number one issue, I assume. | ||
| It's like, what is... Tucker's being very consistent, he's extremely nationalistic, populist, and he's making a point of Yes, we're all horrified by his images, but, you know, I'm focused on my country. | ||
| I mean, it's very true to who he is. | ||
| I mean, he's not saying this is outrageous or anything. | ||
| Ben's upset that Tucker's not angry enough. | ||
| I think we're all pretty angry about it. | ||
| I mean, that's why he had 30 minutes of his show dedicated to it with Vivek. | ||
| And he wants to say, let's not forget what's happening in our own country. | ||
| Where's the outrage here? | ||
| I wish we were all as outraged about what's happening in our country as we are about what's happening in Israel right now. | ||
| Seems to be what he was getting at. | ||
| But that's not good enough for Ben Shapiro, apparently. | ||
| Or Ukraine, when we were all putting up the flags in Ukraine. | ||
| I wish that we cared as much about what was happening to the people in Appalachia when they were being given opioids in mass and then being made fun of in private emails. | ||
| I mean, I am not saying that these things are even comparable. | ||
| I think both parties are maybe making a weird comparison, but there is definitely tragedy in America and it is good to acknowledge that we don't whip ourselves into the frenzy that we have. | ||
| A hundred thousand dead? | ||
| Over this stuff? | ||
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A year. | |
| Yeah, I mean, that's, that's, it's, it, you know, like I said, Ben is saying, one, a person, oh, ding, on heroin is a moral blight, but it's an atrocity to kidnap, rape women, and drag them to the Gaza border. | ||
| Okay, well, Tucker said 100,000 dead. | ||
| So, you know, we can talk about, like, I absolutely agree in the sense of what Ben is saying, that, yes, beating, raping women, and kidnapping them, and dragging them to the Gaza border is a moral atrocity, well beyond someone overdosing. | ||
| What Tucker's saying, 100,000 people overdosing, I think gets to the point of something very serious here. | ||
| Yeah, poisoning an entire society. | ||
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Poisoning an entire society, right. | |
| Yeah, a different kind of attack. | ||
| But here's the other thing I'll add to this too, it's like... | ||
| There's a video, I don't know if it was a video, there's a story out of Philly where a woman was raped on a train in front of a bunch of people. | ||
| I think they filmed it. | ||
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Oh yeah, uh-huh. | |
| Yeah, so women are being beaten, raped, and kidnapped all the time in the United States because of the crime and because of the policies of these soft-on-crime Democrats. | ||
| These policies are resulting in criminals being released. | ||
| And then we just had that woman in Baltimore who was presumably raped and murdered on her roof. | ||
| This tech CEO, now you've got the guy in New York, Ryan Carson I think his name was, who was stabbed and killed. | ||
| So, you know look, I can understand organized actions by Hamas into civilian areas is an atrocity. | ||
| But I think Tucker's making a relevant point. | ||
| He maybe could have articulated it a little bit better. | ||
| But yeah, he mentioned 100,000 deaths. | ||
| That's what you would call derailing what Tucker did. | ||
| He derailed the conversation into another direction that he wanted. | ||
| That's called a segue. | ||
| He took them into a tangent. | ||
| Yes, a tangential segue. | ||
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But does Ben not watch Tucker Carlson? | |
| It would become so out of character if Tucker Carlson came on and started like, We need to go to war, and this is the worst thing that's ever happened in the history of mankind. | ||
| If it were about another country, you know? | ||
| This is the other thing. | ||
| This is Tucker Carlson doing a segue. | ||
| I support it, personally. | ||
| Where in a conversation, you'll say, yes, I do understand that you like the color blue. | ||
| Something else that's blue is the sky. | ||
| Have you noticed that in the sky, you do this? | ||
| We do it all the time on this show. | ||
| I do it particularly. | ||
| I do free association, where if you're talking about a color, I might mention something else that's the same color, and you're like, that's not what we're talking about. | ||
| We're talking about this thing. | ||
| No, that's derailing. | ||
| Segues are different. | ||
| You're derailing me right now. | ||
| Anyway, we're joking. | ||
| Segues are when we will talk for 15 or 20 minutes, and then we'll be talking about fake news, and I'll say, speaking of fake news, we have this article we segue on by saying. | ||
| Yeah, it's as if they caught the end of his segment on the attack and then the beginning of his segment on the drug overdose. | ||
| And he's trying to shift the conversation from Israel into American issues by saying, you know, these things are really, really bad. | ||
| We have some things that we're really concerned about here in the United States, too. | ||
| Normal segue. | ||
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Because he has a presidential candidate on. | |
| Right. | ||
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And he spent the last 20 minutes talking to people. | |
| Wasn't he there when it was happening? | ||
| I don't remember. | ||
| He's probably really scared. He probably has a lot of fear over there. I mean absolutely his family and friends. It's | ||
| terrifying He was there. I don't remember I could have misread a tweet | ||
| online. Oh, I don't know I'm saying I put up this thing being like Ben is safe. | ||
| He's just observing the holiday. | ||
| So he's okay. | ||
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Well, good. | |
| I'm like, I could be totally off on this. | ||
| Nobody I completely respect Ben's email, like emotional state. | ||
| He's he's highly he's he's highly agitated. | ||
| I don't mean that to be me. | ||
| I mean, he's clearly this is affecting his family, probably his friends. | ||
| Definitely. | ||
| They're there. | ||
| I'm sure that, you know, He may know people who are victimized, injured, maybe even killed, but I just want to say, on top of all that, cooler heads prevail, and now's the time to be like, criticizing Tucker Carlson for doing a segue, and maybe, you know, if Ben had approached it more calmly, being like, Tucker, you could do a better job, please, let's, I think it would have landed better. | ||
| But again, I can understand why Ben's upset. | ||
| I'm not trying to be a dick. | ||
| Apparently he left just before it happened, just so you know. | ||
| And he wasn't on the internet either because they were observing the Sabbath. | ||
| Do you think it would be a good time to bring Israeli scholars, or I guess you could say Jewish scholars and Muslim scholars together for a conference? | ||
| They do that all the time. | ||
| Is it good to do right now, or is it- I mean, why wait? | ||
| We had Max talking about it. | ||
| And it's just like, it's never enough. | ||
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It's just- Maybe if we do it, we could publicize it to another- It's like a new crowd. | |
| Cultural episode, we get an imam and a rabbi. | ||
| And a priest! | ||
| We could. | ||
| That would be epic. | ||
| It'd be super interesting. | ||
| The thing is though, like, those are good, and it's good when people who are, um, Expert in their field, they're studying their religion, whatever. | ||
| It's good for them to talk about things, but you have to remember the people on the ground are making decisions to participate in either side of this or not. | ||
| And so someone having sort of like an elite group of scholars having a conversation doesn't mean that it's going to affect the hearts and minds of the people that are actually living in the realities of both of these countries right now. | ||
| I'll be honest, I'm most concerned about the kids that are nine, they're going to be 22 in 11, 12, 13 years and remember this. | ||
| Like the kids in 2009 whose sisters were blown up, They're all in their mid early 20s and they're ready to fight. | ||
| I'm talking about like the Palestinians that were there during the Israeli attack in 2009 or whatever you want to call it. | ||
| So in those situations, maybe if we have conversations early now and these 11, 12 year olds that have lost their family members have something to listen to, then maybe that'll help them clear, you know, think properly over the next couple of decades. | ||
| Well, you know, that's like the best I can do is just talking on a microphone other than going to Gaza, which I want to do too. | ||
| Yeah, I think that it's not wrong to want to have conversation. | ||
| I just mean that it's easy for us who don't live in the middle of these countries to say, well, if we just talk about it more, then maybe we'll be able to reach an agreement. | ||
| I don't live with the cultural and religious complicated feelings that come with both of these places. | ||
| I live in America and I'm Christian, so some of the things that go on are things that would be very difficult for me to understand. | ||
| I don't know that we are in a position to offer a solution because, you know, like all conflict and war in history, it's so deeply complicated and it's not just like one thing happened and suddenly they're fighting. | ||
| This is a very layered, complicated, A contentious relationship that has hit a very serious breaking point and resulted in very serious violence. | ||
| It's like it's been a thousand years, you know, it's not it's not like it's just gonna go away tomorrow That's one thing that you can shave for sure It's not gonna just end because some people discuss some things and someone viewed them as being there because even within Islam they have different Opinions as to who leads like the spiritual successor of Muhammad on earth. | ||
| So it's it's not gonna be that easy I just I know what you're saying and I get it. | ||
| It's noble but outside of a cultural episode. | ||
| I don't know I want to do a new show maybe every Tuesday Oh, the religious show. | ||
| One to two to three hours where we fly in religious experts. | ||
| It could be anybody, but if you guys support that in the audience, give me a five in the | ||
| chat because I've been thinking about it a lot and I don't think wasting time makes any | ||
| sense anymore. | ||
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But I mean, the entire region only functions with strong men in power. | |
| Look what happened when they took out Gaddafi. | ||
| I mean, there are such things as cultures that really only understand force and power. | ||
| Yeah, it's true. | ||
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I mean, Russia's a culture that only understands force and power. | |
| They want a strongman. | ||
| I think that's really hard for us to understand. | ||
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And you say, like, yeah, it's hard for us to understand. | |
| It's like, well, let's just talk about it. | ||
| We have local cops. | ||
| We've got this local protective bubble that we all live in. | ||
| So it doesn't really matter if your president's an idiot sometimes. | ||
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Right. | |
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| But it's not true, it does matter on the geopolitical stage, it just doesn't really matter as much domestically. | ||
| Whereas in Russia, if you're president, or in Chile, I don't know, do the Russians have local cops or is it federales all across the federation? | ||
| I don't remember exactly. | ||
| I'm pretty sure it's federation cops. | ||
| I want to ask you a question about Tucker really quickly. | ||
| Did you see a shift in his style? | ||
| Because you observed him pretty closely from when he left Fox and now that he's doing his own thing. | ||
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Well, you know, he's still an employee of Fox News, so he's under constraints about what he's able to do. | |
| But just the style of his interviews. | ||
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Style of interviews? | |
| I think that his... I think he's... I mean, it's a different show now because it's long form. | ||
| I guess it's more similar to that Tucker Carlson Today show. | ||
| I think that he's probably... | ||
| I think the lack of structure is probably affecting him a little bit. | ||
| Positively or negatively? | ||
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I think he's just probably getting used to it. | |
| He's worked a jobby job for a hundred years in cable news. | ||
| I think the kind of freedom and lack of structure is maybe Is this something you kind of go into in his book, Tucker's time in media? | ||
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Yeah, I mean most of the book is, I mean it's, you know, his birth, well not even his childhood, his father's childhood, well before that, up until the book ends two weeks after he was taken off the air and he's sort of still dazed by it and going through it. | |
| How'd you meet him? | ||
| I was a regular on his show. | ||
| I was first, actually when I came out conservative, which was in a piece in the New York Post. | ||
| Yeah, when I came out conservative. | ||
| That was the headline. | ||
| I'm a gay New Yorker and I'm coming out conservative. | ||
| And that coming out might have been harder. | ||
| I don't actually know. | ||
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Oh it was! | |
| It was much harder. | ||
| Way harder than coming out 15 in the middle of the country as gay. | ||
| But that was February 2017 and he had me on the show because of that article which went viral, which I had no idea it would. | ||
| Had you been writing biographies before that? | ||
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I'd written magazine profiles, tons of those, but not this is my first biography as a book. | |
| How long did it take to write it? | ||
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This book was a little over a year. | |
| Were you in constant contact with Tucker as you were writing it? | ||
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Yeah, I tried not to bother him. | |
| I bothered him as little as possible to try to respect his time, but I spent tons of time with him at his home and stayed at his home by his insistence. | ||
| So would you go interview him, take a bunch of notes, then leave, go write as much as you could, and then come back and hit him up again kind of thing? | ||
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I tried to get it done in like chunks, so I would come hang out for a few days at a time, have my recorder going the whole time, and just kind of be there, and then get home, transcribe it all, go through it. | |
| Because I'd already done, you know, there's a lot more, you know, when you're writing about someone's career and all that, there's so much more you're already working on. | ||
| There's a lot of history there, there's a lot of words out there, there's tons of that, you know, yeah. | ||
| Did you find that it changed you, learning about someone else and writing someone else's biography? | ||
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It did, yeah. | |
| I think with him particularly and his wife Susie, it made me, not to sound corny, but it made me chill out a bit. | ||
| It made me kind of remember what was important in life. | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
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Just because he's such a, he has a very, he is not an egomaniac. | |
| He's not a jerk. | ||
| He's a really sort of warm and interesting person. | ||
| He has a very balanced life. | ||
| He makes sure he can see the stars every night, you know, things like that. | ||
| And I've been talking a lot about that. | ||
| He's very into nature. | ||
| And he has a really lovely wife and lovely family. | ||
| And so it was sort of one of those like, yeah, I need to remember what's important. | ||
| It's not what's happening in the news. | ||
| He's somebody who very much knows that what's happening in the news is not the most important thing in the world. | ||
| I think that's it. | ||
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And that's ironic him being, at the time, as he was number one on Fox, you know, when I was doing most of this research. | |
| I find myself wondering about that with America, I mean all of Western Europe, the world, but definitely America's workaholic culture. | ||
| You see people, especially women, delay having children or getting married because they think, oh, my career needs to come first, I need to get to a certain level. | ||
| And we know ultimately, you know, you could always be more successful, you could always be working for something more. | ||
| I've quoted this a couple times. | ||
| It was The Guardian, I think, published this story interviewing men who hadn't had children and they just kept saying, oh, I thought it would happen. | ||
| So you have these two forces saying, I didn't put my eye on this thing that ultimately makes life sort of have a meaning that you can't just get from dollars and cents or promotions at work. | ||
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Yeah, that was something I discovered, is that he's so much more interested in the bigger questions of morality, family, faith, beauty, than he is in politics per se, which are far more interesting conversations. | |
| And they're the reason we're supposed to have politics in the first place, to uphold our morality. | ||
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And I think a part of his success was he's the only person that could speak on those things in mainstream media. | |
| Number one, because he actually believed them and he wrote all those monologues himself. | ||
| But you know, he could do a segment about architecture. | ||
| Like Sean Handy can't do a segment on architecture. | ||
| He doesn't care about architecture, you know? | ||
| And also as you brought up starting families, how young women get screwed by feminism and all these other lies that they've been told. | ||
| And young men as well, which we don't talk about a lot. | ||
| Which he certainly does. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, he's got sons, right? | ||
| How can you not be conscious of these things if you're watching? | ||
| You went through them yourselves and you're raising another generation of people who are combating these narratives that direct them to be ultimately unhappy and servants to a corporate machine that chews them up and spits them out. | ||
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Absolutely, yeah. | |
| I mean, and yeah, his anti-corporatist stance in the most corporative settings on Fox News was always quite amazing. | ||
| But it was also so, it's, I mean, so indicative of just these blurred lines of what is left and right anymore. | ||
| I mean, the fact that the left hates him so much, and yet he, and I think one of the main reasons is that he just so effectively holds a mirror up to What they once were and what they still sort of purport to be, which would be like free speech, anti-war, anti-corporatist. | ||
| And now they are all of those, the opposite of all those things. | ||
| And it's the sort of Tucker Carlson, Trumpy, populist right, I guess, that is very suspicious of those things and calls them out now. | ||
| And that drives the left insane, obviously, because they need to be like their avant-garde fighting the man. | ||
| But they are the man. | ||
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But they are the man! | |
| They have been for a while. | ||
| And they have been for a while. | ||
| It's hard to argue that we're countercultural when they are the They are the culture, right? | ||
| And they still don't see it! | ||
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No, they have no idea. | |
| Or they do see it and they can't admit it because it's too painful. | ||
| Or they just shatter. | ||
| I always bring up how the word bootlicker just disappeared. | ||
| As soon as they came into power, bootlicker, the worst term, disappeared. | ||
| There was a term disappeared. | ||
| I saw all my friends stop saying it because it doesn't fit the narrative for them. | ||
| You can't say that anymore. | ||
| But as soon as I guarantee if Trump or another, let's say, like Republican takes office or | ||
| independent if RFK takes office, that word will come back. | ||
| Mark my words. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| I just said there was a drop-down. | ||
| It was blocked. | ||
| But, uh, Washington Post does say, So, uh, who do you trust? | ||
| The Washington Post? | ||
| U.S. officials and the president have not seen pictures or confirmed reports independently. | ||
| The president based his comments about the alleged atrocities on the claims of Netanyahu's | ||
| spokesman and media reports from Israel. | ||
| So who do you trust, the Washington Post or the president? | ||
| Well, the president never said he saw them, so the Washington Post is just clarifying | ||
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So the president's spokespeople who are once again trying to backtrack something the president said. | |
| No, no, no, no, no. | ||
| We didn't hear anything from the spokespeople. | ||
| We saw a statement from the Washington Post. | ||
| The Washington Post is claiming that someone said this. | ||
| Someone told them exclusively that this is, hmm, but they can't name anyone. | ||
| And it says, a White House spokesperson later clarified that U.S. | ||
| officials and the President had not seen it. | ||
| Clarified to whom? | ||
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When? | |
| How? | ||
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And whose side is the Post on? | |
| Are they in the long video? | ||
| This is the game. | ||
| I think they're on the wrong side. | ||
| If Joe Biden says, I never thought I would see it, you're right. | ||
| He didn't say he saw it. | ||
| If the Washington Post says a spokesperson clarified, they don't say where, who, to them, to someone else. | ||
| The Washington Post Could be referencing a tweet they saw from a White House spokesperson who claims to have sent a message to someone about something similar. | ||
| We have no idea. | ||
| It sounds like someone in the Israeli intelligence or somebody contacted the Biden administration and told them that they had pictures and they were confirmed, and then Biden, as a bootlick, let's say, Biden the lapdog has just repeated it. | ||
| He didn't even say, like, I was told... Netanyahu's spokesman said it. | ||
| Out loud? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So then Biden... Netanyahu's spokesman and media reports from Israel... So Biden's echoing... Right. | ||
| He's just... | ||
| Welcome to the fog of war. | ||
| It's crazy and Biden is contributing to it because either way this is him not being clear in a statement and we can go with he's got an agenda we can go with he has Alzheimer's it's not a strong look for a president and it's definitely going to hurt him in the polls. | ||
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Tim mentioned this earlier but didn't elaborate but it was the Saudi the the Iraqi thing in the 90s. | |
| I mean, that's what made us sort of think of this. | ||
| And what was the whole story? | ||
| Was it the Nayyirah? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Was it Nayyirah? | ||
| Nayyirah. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Claimed that Saddam's forces had pulled babies out of incubators and left him to die. | ||
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Right. | |
| And it turned out to be fake. | ||
| And it was used to justify the first Gulf War. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it was totally fake. | ||
| I support Israel, Judaism, all of this. | ||
| But sending them in to commit genocide against the Palestinians will make them the world's most hated country on earth. | ||
| Not by me. | ||
| But people need to understand, I know it's like the breaking point has come, it feels like that, but | ||
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I want to preserve the people. The peop- I mean yeah, it's a challenging position. | |
| We don't really know what to say. | ||
| And I think, again, I really credit Ryan Long for his his well-timed video here, right? | ||
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Right. | |
| So I think people want to ultimately live with morality and have compassion and want there to be a right answer. | ||
| On the other hand, it is very easy for Americans to say like, oh, well, I read three articles from The Washington Post, so I know what's right. | ||
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Right. | |
| And ultimately we know That even our political leaders are misleading or being misled. | ||
| There is no clarity on this issue. | ||
| You can't rush to take a statement. | ||
| You should condemn violence. | ||
| You should, you know, pray for people who are suffering. | ||
| But you can't ultimately say, I know exactly how to fix this because we don't. | ||
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And what's wrong with saying I'm emotional right now and I don't have to have an answer? | |
| I've got a solution, potentially. | ||
| What do you guys think about offering Palestine to become the 51st U.S. | ||
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state? | |
| Why? | ||
| Why would we do that? | ||
| I got an idea, and equally as plausible as Ian's idea, a pizza party for everyone in Gaza and in Israel to come together and celebrate, and then we'll have the Rolling Stones play. | ||
| I'll tell you why. | ||
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You too! | |
| It would give us a trade post in the Middle East, a permanent place to go, give us a vacation spot like Hawaii. | ||
| They're not our vacation home! | ||
| That doesn't make any sense! | ||
| Ian, what you're saying is a joke. | ||
| I'd rather buy the Bahamas than bail in Mexico. | ||
| I'd rather joke around and offer legitimate, funny, weird solutions than just watch people die. | ||
| Like, what's the other solution? | ||
| I haven't heard one solution other than that. | ||
| Alright, here's an equally as plausible solution to yours. | ||
| We'll have a whole bunch of clowns. | ||
| I know you're gonna shit on it. | ||
| That's why I asked them, man. | ||
| I know you don't like it. | ||
| You already told me that. | ||
| It's psychotic. | ||
| So is this war, dude. | ||
| You're proposing annexing another country. | ||
| We can't even get Puerto Rico to be a 51st state. | ||
| What you're saying is a nonsensical waste of time. | ||
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We can't even take over Greenland. | |
| Yeah. | ||
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Whatever happened to that? | |
| We've barely developed Alaska. | ||
| This is more of like saving their lives kind of thing. | ||
| Maybe not a state, maybe colonial. | ||
| I don't want to oppress them. | ||
| We already said we were backing Israel in this. | ||
| We already said they're our allies. | ||
| I love how Ian's interventionism is so extreme he wants to annex and colonize Palestine. | ||
| What I want to do is improve colonization. | ||
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Invite them into this racist country? | |
| I want to improve living conditions in Palestine. | ||
| Because if you support Israel, you improve living conditions in Palestine, they'll stop attacking. | ||
| No, they won't. | ||
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No, that's not it. | |
| Or there's a likelihood that the attacks will decrease if they're not starving to death. | ||
| Potentially. | ||
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No! | |
| Potentially. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| But no one can say. | ||
| You don't know. | ||
| And I don't think, judging on these actions, that it will. | ||
| I don't think from the river to the sea has anything to do with food. | ||
| No, it does not. | ||
| What do you mean, from the river to the sea? | ||
| Exactly, if you don't know what that means, maybe you should hold on. | ||
| Put it in context for people. | ||
| Okay, so most people who are listening and hearing you talk about making Palestine the 51st state, which you're probably referring to the Gaza Strip. | ||
| Well, we'd have to partition it with Israel, but yeah. | ||
| Right, okay, which makes sense. | ||
| That's already the problem. | ||
| I don't like it. | ||
| When they're chanting, from the river to the sea, they are saying they will seize all of the land that is now Israel. | ||
| They are not saying, we're hungry, help! | ||
| They're saying from the river to the sea. | ||
| I understand the militant war goal of Hamas, but that's not the people I'm talking about. | ||
| I'm talking about the civilians. | ||
| How would you remove Hamas from this? | ||
| We're going to annex a country that Hamas is in. | ||
| 44% support. | ||
| And then we're going to have an occupied vacation home in the Middle East that we are now... The U.S. | ||
| military would occupy! | ||
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I don't like Taiwan. | |
| Then we would have turned on Israel and have a hostile relationship. | ||
| Like, I don't understand what this would do for anyone. | ||
| No, no, Ian's saying the U.S. | ||
| military should occupy Palestine and force them to our laws. | ||
| I'm not saying to colonize or to conquer. | ||
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How else would that look? | |
| I want to offer them the opportunity to petition to become a state if they want. | ||
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Why? | |
| Because otherwise they're going to get annihilated and completely decimated and gone. | ||
| So why would you say that the Americans should intervene on this? | ||
| I just told you, because we could set up economic trade routes with Israel and Egypt. | ||
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And then 2.2 million Palestinians can move anywhere they want in the continental United States and God knows how many terrorists are in that population. | |
| 44% support for Hamas. | ||
| Yeah, Hamas would probably be their governor. | ||
| They'd probably elect an Islamic governor. | ||
| So we would give them all American passports. | ||
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Do they get senators? | |
| So like the squad gets two more members? | ||
| Yeah, that would be part of the deal. | ||
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That would be a part of the deal. | |
| I mean, they would get senators. | ||
| They would get representation. | ||
| Israel can be the 51st state. | ||
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Actually, my friend that told me this said he wanted to make them both American states. | |
| If we're gonna get another state, I say we take the Baja Peninsula. | ||
| Next time we bail out the Mexican banks, you know, and then we can increase our land that way. | ||
| At least it'll be attached to us and it's way easier to defend. | ||
| Why would we take Wait, I think the idea of uniting states doesn't stop in North America. | ||
| We could have a global citizenry of united, delocalized state governments. | ||
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What if the sun never set on America? | |
| Ian starts working out and now he wants total global intervention. | ||
| I don't care what they're doing in North Dakota, man. | ||
| I'm not the kind of guy that would send the feds in. | ||
| So you don't care what's happening in our own country, but you'd rather send our military forces to two different countries. | ||
| That doesn't make sense to me. | ||
| Well, you know, they defend themselves. | ||
| They have state militia. | ||
| They have state government. | ||
| It would take 40 years to set this thing up. | ||
| And Palestine doesn't have a way to defend itself. | ||
| They're clearly obviously able to launch violent attacks. | ||
| Israel is obviously able to retaliate. | ||
| Don't conflate Palestine and Hamas. | ||
| I'm not saying that. | ||
| Why not? | ||
| Because the Palestinians, a lot of those people are civilians. | ||
| They voted for it. | ||
| Some of them. | ||
| You said 44%. | ||
| Yeah, that's called a plurality. | ||
| That's some of them. | ||
| That's less than half of them, man. | ||
| And that's voting. | ||
| And that's only adults. | ||
| So? | ||
| So how many kids are in there? | ||
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And they're not Hamas? | |
| Not right now. | ||
| How many? | ||
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100,000? | |
| 800,000? | ||
| The thing is they're still willing to put like a missile system underneath, on top of a school. | ||
| I know, they're like held hostage. | ||
| Children's hospital and stuff like that. | ||
| I know they're being held hostage, but like, you know, even under Geneva's rules, like if you're using a school or a hospital or whatever, and you're using a missile site there, that's now a military site. | ||
| It's no longer a hospital or a school. | ||
| That's why I'm proposing radical solutions because I understand this military doctrine dictates that you wipe them out. | ||
| I understand. | ||
| Well, it's a nonsensical solution. | ||
| It's politically, physically, militaristically, economically impossible to do. | ||
| Not impossible, but it would be ridiculously hard. | ||
| Understatement. | ||
| It is, for all intents and purposes, impossible to do. | ||
| You need their acquiescence. | ||
| It wouldn't be a forced thing. | ||
| First, you'd have to go to full-scale war with Iran, because the moment you bring any kind of U.S. | ||
| presence towards Palestine for the purpose of offering Annexation. | ||
| Iran's going to declare full-scale war. | ||
| Lebanon and Hezbollah are already threatening to bomb the carrier strike group that's there. | ||
| Like, it's just nonsense. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| We'll go to Super Chats. | ||
| We're gonna go to Super Chats and hear what y'all have to say, so smash the like button, subscribe to this channel, share this show with your friends, and head over to TimCast.com. | ||
| Click join us! | ||
| Become a member because we're gonna have an uncensored members-only show coming up for you in about 25 minutes. | ||
| You don't want to miss it. | ||
| And as a member, you can submit questions and ask us these questions on the uncensored show. | ||
| Christopher Lambert, super chatted, one day I will be first. | ||
| It's today, my friend. | ||
| You've won. | ||
| I love this race. | ||
| I think that's so funny. | ||
| You win. | ||
| Sweet. | ||
| Good job, dude. | ||
| Good job. | ||
| Noah Sanders says, I know you read my chat last night, but the uncensored episode from last Thursday still isn't working on the website. | ||
| Thanks for all the work you do. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Who do we have to- Me and Kellen are working on that right now. | ||
| We have to figure it out. | ||
| Is it just something on Rumble? | ||
| It might be. | ||
| I haven't actually checked with them. | ||
| We have to do it. | ||
| It's noted right here on the desk, though, guys. | ||
| Well, let's get that up. | ||
| Let's do it right now. | ||
| Can you message someone right now and tell them to do it? | ||
| Yeah, I'll be able to look after the show. | ||
| All right, well, I'll do it right now because we're not gonna wait till after the show. | ||
| So we'll just, I'll just get in this and... While Tim's doing that, I'll take the opportunity to shill my concept of making Palestine the 51st state because it's exciting. | ||
| I think we should make Switzerland the 51st state. | ||
| And then I think we should also make Japan the 52nd state. | ||
| Like, we can't just claim other countries. | ||
| It doesn't make any sense. | ||
| Of course we can. | ||
| Yeah, it's moronic. And then I shut the computer off and I was like sitting there. | ||
| I think we should make Switzerland the 51st state. And then I think we should also make | ||
| Japan the 52nd state. Like, we can't just claim other countries. It doesn't make any sense. | ||
| Of course we can. We've been doing it since the dawn of time. | ||
| Yeah, but people are really against it. | ||
| I know, I'm British. | ||
| Let's violate the Geneva Conventions, the Hague Conventions. | ||
| Let's go to war with Iran, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Jordan. | ||
| Let's just create... The military-industrial complex grows and grows and grows. | ||
| Ian's right. | ||
| Let's go to World War III right now. | ||
| No more waiting. | ||
| Send in the strike groups. | ||
| Instantly have war declared on the United States and all of its allies. | ||
| And nukes go flying over his proposed idea of annexing Palestine. | ||
| For the record, World War III began on September 11th, 2001. | ||
| And America's been winning it. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I'm tired of waiting for the nukes to fly. | ||
| Let's take Ian's idea to get the nukes to launch immediately. | ||
| I'm still against them being a 51st state, but it would be much flashier this way. | ||
| Tim, would you rather be right? | ||
| Would you rather be wrong or be dead? | ||
| What? | ||
| If you had to pick one. | ||
| What does that mean? | ||
| Just in general. | ||
| But what does that mean? | ||
| Would you have to find out that everything you thought was real, right, was wrong? | ||
| Or would you rather be dead? | ||
| I'm wrong all the time. | ||
| Honest question. | ||
| Wrong all the time. | ||
| That's why we bring out a bunch of people from different backgrounds and different political opinions. | ||
| That's why when I used to say things like, you know, I think there was reasonable gun control, I no longer say these things. | ||
| That's why we had a legitimate conversation numerous times about abolishing the police and why I've gone on to say that Michael Maus is correct, that police absolutely would kill children. | ||
| We saw this in Maui. | ||
| He was right about that. | ||
| This is like kind of the premise of the show is that we're learning and experiencing and trying to understand the world. | ||
| But the reality of Annexing Palestine, which fundamentally makes no sense because are you talking about Gaza and the West Bank together? | ||
| We'd have to partition it. | ||
| So you're talking about first we have to militaristically force a two-state solution, which would then result in war with Iran and Lebanon. | ||
| Maybe, maybe. | ||
| Probably Saudi Arabia. | ||
| If we forced it, yeah. | ||
| Right, so we can't do that, so then that's it. | ||
| Full stop. | ||
| Right now, before you can offer up your proposal, you need a two-state solution in Israel. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Okay, then come back to us when that happens. | ||
| Alright, let's read some more. | ||
| Raymond G. Stanley, Jr. | ||
| says, Tim, shout out to BLM, woke college students and far leftists. | ||
| Thank you for revealing to the world what we've been, what we've always known about you, that you trash human beings. | ||
| May you continue to show your, yes. | ||
| I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, you know, a lot of Democrats are coming out and outright being like, there was that guy, David Weissman, I respect, respect what he tweeted. | ||
| He says the right was right about Black Lives Matter. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Thank you for, for, for recognizing that. | ||
| That's good. | ||
| Just having the right direction. | ||
| Ryan Hunter says I've been handed a life sentence on X for advocating for the use of lethal force in justifiable self-defense. | ||
| Y'all won't be seeing me there anymore and my blue check money will be going to the Cast Brew Coffee now, keep rockin'! | ||
| You know what we're gonna do? | ||
| We're gonna make Cast Brew social media! | ||
| We'll make the- on the Cast Brew app, you can post your thoughts- I'm kidding. | ||
| I thought you were gonna say you were gonna make a blue checkmark roast, but... A blue checkmark roast? | ||
| It just tastes like blueberries or whatever. | ||
| Raymond G. Stanley Jr. | ||
| says, results are in of the Timcast IRL audience poll. | ||
| Should Palestine be the 51st state? | ||
| The winner with 42% is no. | ||
| The second place at 38% is... WTF are you on about? | ||
| Kholishnikov says, so much for breaking out of an open-air prison. | ||
| I don't want US to further any involvement, however. | ||
| I fully support Israel's scorched earth in Gaza. | ||
| I don't. | ||
| You see, that's a problem. | ||
| So, when Lindsey Graham goes on TV and says, we're in a religious war, level the place, | ||
| they're playing that message right now for everyone in Gaza, saying, see, this is what | ||
| You have to join us. | ||
| You have to do these things. | ||
| That's how you perpetuate war. | ||
| If Lindsey Graham had gone on TV and said, this is a terrible travesty. | ||
| What Hamas did was an atrocity. | ||
| They must be held accountable. | ||
| And we will do everything we can to protect those who are innocent civilians. | ||
| That would have played substantially better. | ||
| Instead, he's just making it all worse. | ||
| Because these people want war. | ||
| And they want war with Iran. | ||
| You ever look at a map and you see, you see Iraq and Afghanistan and what's right in the middle? | ||
| It's almost like we were surrounding their country. | ||
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Hm. | |
| Wonderful. | ||
| Cam says, in the Bible, talks about nations will surround Israel in the end times. | ||
| Crazed that it might happen soon. | ||
| Love your content, guys. | ||
| Keep up the fight. | ||
| That's why someone super chatted us about the red heifer. | ||
| So I looked it up and I was reading about it. | ||
| Like, there have been people trying to breed red heifers and import them. | ||
| Just to, like, accelerate, basically. | ||
| Do you get into the religious part of it all? | ||
| Like, are you religious yourself? | ||
| Do you find the story of the apocalypse and Well I'm certainly interested in it, yeah for sure. | ||
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So what are you saying with the red heifer? | |
| Trying to breed? | ||
| Well so, I'm not going to pretend to know anything about this other than I read one article, and you need like ten red heifers, a pure red heifer with not a single blemish must be sacrificed to purify the third temple, and they haven't seen one in thousands of years. | ||
| And so what happens is they're trying, they keep breeding red heifers, and That it'll be born, it'll go, this one's it, and then it'll grow up, and then there'll be like a few hairs that are the wrong color, and like, nope, not pure. | ||
| It has to be inspected by numerous scholars and rabbis to confirm not a single blemish, a perfect red heifer, and it's been thousands of years since they've seen one. | ||
| If a genetically engineered one. | ||
| They're trying with that. | ||
| They've been trying. | ||
| It's not working. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Like there's always they're all like, there's going to be a few hairs that are the wrong color. | ||
| It's like blemish. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Some blemish somewhere, a little spot somewhere. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Nothing you can do about it. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But this person is referring to is like the battle of Armageddon and Megiddo and the Megiddo Valley and stuff like that. | ||
| If anyone wants to look into it, definitely do your due diligence because it's crazy. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| Eric Miller says, Tim, how about making a tribute blend for Cast Brew where all the proceeds go to a cause the Discord is supporting once a month and we get coffee? | ||
| Yes, perhaps. | ||
| It's not super easy to set up a blend, and I gotta be completely honest, they don't make that much money. | ||
| That's just a reality. | ||
| Like, we want to do... | ||
| Specific blends for various personalities, like you're talking about Alex Stein, Primetime Grind, 2x Caffeine, and Seamus Coghlan's, you know, Irish Coffee or whatever. | ||
| But, like, the amount of money that would be made off it is just, it's not even worth, it's almost not even worth promoting individually. | ||
| That's the problem. | ||
| It's like... | ||
| You know, we're gonna do it anyway, but I think based on what it costs us to make, what we make from it, and what the individual, the amount of money we make off each bag, it doesn't, it can't compare to a normal ad read. | ||
| So asking someone like Alex Stein, hey, do an ad read for this coffee and you'll get the profits or whatever, he would make more if he did a normal ad pitch through any other company. | ||
| Because we just don't make that much money off the coffee. | ||
| So, buy more coffee! | ||
| I suppose, though, if we sold all of it at once, it would be worth it. | ||
| But based on, like, the amount that we sell per bag, it's not that much. | ||
| If we launched, like, 5,000 bags and sold them all in one week, that would definitely be worth it for, you know, Alex or Seamus. | ||
| But I think they're both interested anyway, so we're going to try and do stuff like that. | ||
| Sounds like once we franchise that you'll start selling 5,000 bags a week. | ||
| Wholesale is going to be big. | ||
| If we can start moving like 20,000 to 50,000 bags through a network of smaller stores, that's when people like Alex are going to, or like a charity, is really going to get a good return on this. | ||
| That's what we're looking at right now. | ||
| We're working with Chef Andrew Grewal about the franchising agreement and everything we have to do legally. | ||
| And then we're also looking at wholesale. | ||
| And the big win, obviously, is once you get a contract at a chain of supermarkets, you're good. | ||
| Because now you're, like, instantly moving thousands of bags every week or something. | ||
| You know, a lot of people, they go to the grocery store, they're like, ah, coffee. | ||
| They'll grab whatever. | ||
| There's some that I like and some that I don't when I go to the grocery store, but for the most part, we only drink Casper now. | ||
| I gotta be honest, like, we formulated these blends. | ||
| Most of them, some, like, there's a Colombian, it's Colombian. | ||
| But, uh, for that reason, I think, obviously, the best coffee I've ever had. | ||
| Yeah, it's good. | ||
| Because, like, I put it together, I'm like, I'm mixing stuff, and I'm like, let's try 30%, 30%, and, like, here's what I like, here are the flavors that I like, and then I'm like, this is the best coffee ever. | ||
| Did you do, like, the French roast and stuff as well, or are those just, like, regular ones? | ||
| The French, Colombian, it's just like basic. | ||
| Basic blends. | ||
| Right, like we get the beans imported, we have a distributor, they put it all together. | ||
| But like Appalachian Nights, Roberto Jr., those are blends. | ||
| Stand Your Ground is a blend. | ||
| So the stuff that we're making is like a unique, proprietary, specific thing that we put together. | ||
| Well, French roasts are still good, guys. | ||
| I like the French Roast. | ||
| I like Pumpkin Spice. | ||
| The French Roast and the Pumpkin Spice are my least favorites out of all of them. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, definitely. | ||
| But Appalachian Nights is just, wow. | ||
| That's my favorite coffee. | ||
| Standing around all day. | ||
| But Rise with Roberto Jr. | ||
| sells the most. | ||
| It's because people want Roberto Jr. | ||
| It's a celebrity factor, you know? | ||
| That brand power. | ||
| Roberto Jr. | ||
| died. | ||
| He had a heart attack and died suddenly. | ||
| Our rooster. | ||
| He's our true influencer, you know? | ||
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Uh-huh, yeah. | |
| It is crazy, though, that, like, even the rooster is helping sell the product. | ||
| Appalachian Nights has no mascot. | ||
| It just, like, it's just... Because we're here. | ||
| We're just Appalachia, you know? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And people are like, that's cool. | ||
| So it does sell well, and it's really good, but people want the rooster on the bag. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| They want that rooster. | ||
| So I'm like, we'll just put more roosters on bags, I guess. | ||
| Well, because, and all of the birds, at least as far as I know, all of them have names. | ||
| At least one point, all of them did. | ||
| There are so many. | ||
| Well, now we have RB3. | ||
| RB3. | ||
| Yeah, Roberto Jr.' 's son, his heir. | ||
| Me. | ||
| And Dorothy, right? | ||
| No. | ||
| Dorothy's been around for a while. | ||
| Who is Roberto Jr.' 's mom? | ||
| Uh, that was, I believe that was Katarina. | ||
| Maybe she should get a badge. | ||
| She died. | ||
| In her memory. | ||
| Cancer. | ||
| Yeah, had cancer. | ||
| But she's the matriarch of this. | ||
| Yeah, so the thing is about the original batch of chickens we got, it was in January and we were warned by the farm that this is an early and weak batch, it's still cold out. | ||
| And we were like, nah, it's cool, and they've been sick. | ||
| In fact, two of them died right when we bought them. | ||
| They were weak and sick. | ||
| And then Roberto Jr. | ||
| was the first born of the original batch, and he was sick. | ||
| So it's like, but then we brought in some diverse genetics, and we've mixed them all, and now they're all fairly robust. | ||
| So, you know, good for the chickens, good for the chickens. | ||
| We got RB3 now. | ||
| Looks just like his dad, but he's got white on his wings and body. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| Wayafet says, Ben Shapiro pointed out that Hamas doesn't live by Western morals. | ||
| We think it is insane and wild that someone would behead babies because of our morals. | ||
| Hamas wants the eradication of the Jews, my people. | ||
| That's another thing that people don't understand is that if you look at the way Israel operates, it's operating under a very typical Western moral standard. | ||
| But the Palestinians do not have the same moral standard. | ||
| This is why the left supports Palestine and the right tends to support Israel. | ||
| Because you have, on the left, the oppressed versus oppressor. | ||
| When we had Max on the other day, he was mentioning that Israel has the power here, and therefore, it's like, oh, that's the leftist, moralist view, right? | ||
| If we don't have that, I don't think power inherently makes you wrong or evil. | ||
| If the fighting between Israel, if no one was funding them and it was just war, we'd be like, well, the war's going on again. | ||
| Because you've got war in Sudan and Somalia. | ||
| How often are we talking about that? | ||
| The US has a vested military interest in Israel, Israel has become more powerful, and now the left is saying, look, look, they're oppressors, and I'm like, well, y'all are at war, and one side is getting better weapons. | ||
| I would like it there to be no war. | ||
| But there's, there's, look man, when one side says, we want from the river to the sea, and the other side is like, please stop attacking us, you know, what do you do? | ||
| You can make land with volcanic magma by redirecting it into the ocean, and it'll cool down and create more landmass. | ||
| Yes, and will they clone Jerusalem? | ||
| At least they're like only nine miles away. | ||
| The actual solution would be like create a parallel mirror dimension of an equal and opposite Jerusalem. | ||
| Oh, like in the pod? | ||
| Negative Jerusalem pod. | ||
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Pizarro Jerusalem. | |
| Yep, and then it's like, well, now which one's the real one? | ||
| I don't know, but you can have that one. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm not saying Israel's innocent. | ||
| Or we've got the moon. | ||
| I mean, there's all kinds of solutions. | ||
| We could just ship people into space. | ||
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We're working on Mars. | |
| Underground? | ||
| We haven't really talked much about the underground lifestyle. | ||
| Nobody wants to live underground. | ||
| The problem is they're all fighting over the Holy Land. | ||
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The subway? | |
| Were you going to say something, Tim, before that? | ||
| I'm not saying Israel's innocent, right? | ||
| Nobody's innocent. | ||
| Yeah, it's war, right? | ||
| That's it. | ||
| It's war. | ||
| I mean, everybody's innocent, but obviously everyone's complicit. | ||
| Everyone's involved. | ||
| If the colonists who came to this country were enslaved and caged by the Native Americans, and hundreds of years went by, and there was a minority population of white European settlers who still lived here, the left would be like, the poor white people, oh, they're oppressed and mercilessly beaten. | ||
| It's the Marxist worldview of oppressor versus oppressor. | ||
| Okay, let's grab some more Super Chats here. | ||
| Oh, we got a stink bug flying around. | ||
| Uh-oh. | ||
| Lurch685 says, you guys are full of it. | ||
| Crying when Israelis chip a nail, but you're silent when Palestinians are massacred en masse. | ||
| Complete hypocrisy. | ||
| Occupied people have the inalienable right to resist. | ||
| Thank you for the free $10. | ||
| When Hamas broke out of the fencing, And then started killing civilians? | ||
| I think it's revealing that you called that chipping a nail. | ||
| So your opinion is understood, and I welcome you to give more money to say it, but we see through what you're really saying. | ||
| Like, dude, it is reasonable to come out and be like, hey, I don't like what Israel's doing with Gaza. | ||
| It's an open-air prison. | ||
| Yes, Hamas should not be targeting civilians. | ||
| It's bad for them strategically, politically, and it's going to cost them dearly. | ||
| No, you can't even say that? | ||
| Okay, then spare me. | ||
| That's why when I see these leftists are holding signs saying, no more funding for Israel, I'm like, what they're really saying is, they want Israel defenseless so they can eradicate them. | ||
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Right, yeah. | |
| That's why I can't stand that, because it's like, I'm like opposed to foreign aid for libertarian reasons, and like America reasons. | ||
| I don't, you know, like what's going on, it's not been justified. | ||
| But these people are like, yeah, I agree, no funding for Israel, because they actually want to go and start killing people. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| We'll grab some more Super Chats. | ||
| Matthew Reckamp says, what Tim is talking about is called semantic shift. | ||
| My favorite example of it is how the original Old English meaning of silly was blessed. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Really? | ||
| I didn't know that. | ||
| That's interesting. | ||
| And I believe the word sink was created by Shakespeare. | ||
| The kitchen sink. | ||
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| There's like a bunch, he like invented a bunch of words. | ||
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He did invent a lot. | |
| So many words. | ||
| Neglectful Sausage says, when Biden said finish the job, he meant the Crusades. | ||
| Did the Christians start the Crusades? | ||
| I was trying to remember. | ||
| Yes, the Crusades were Christians going down to recapture the Holy Land in Jerusalem. | ||
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Okay, when the Ottomans had it? | |
| Probably. | ||
| I don't think the Ottoman Empire was like, it was exactly the thing, but they're just taking from whoever had it at the time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's been a lot of them. | ||
| I think three or four crusades. | ||
| There are more. | ||
| Well, there are jihads. | ||
| There would be a crusade, then a jihad to take it back, then a crusade to take it back, then a jihad to take it back. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| That's why this is not going to be sorted out too easily. | ||
| It's going to take a while. | ||
| Heath Hansen says, I know it's been suggested before, but you guys should read The Storm Before the Storm about the fall of the Roman Republic. | ||
| The parallels to today are striking. | ||
| Love from the great state of Iowa. | ||
| I mean, honest question, why can't the Palestinian people, if they are in an open-air prison, go to, say, Jordan or Saudi Arabia? | ||
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Or Egypt. | |
| Egypt or Lebanon. | ||
| Why don't these countries want to accept these poor refugees who are trapped in an open-air prison? | ||
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Because the point is for them to be trapped in an open-air prison. | |
| Right. | ||
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It's to have that, because they want the leverage to make Israel look bad, to attack Israel and take over. | |
| The point is taking over Israel. | ||
| Yeah, at the end of the day. | ||
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Yeah, at the end of the day. | |
| So of course they're not going to want to move those people into their own countries and safe countries. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Oh, here's a good one. | ||
| M says, Madeline Albright said, it was worth it when talking about half a million children dying in Iraq based on lies. | ||
| So she's a terrorist, right? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| No question from us. | ||
| I don't know what you think here. | ||
| We agree. | ||
| Barack Obama should be criminally charged. | ||
| He should be retroactively impeached and then criminally charged for the killing of Anwar al-Awlaki and Abdulrahman al-Awlaki. | ||
| Make your arguments about Anwar being a jihadi and fighting against America, fine, but we're not going anywhere with Abdulrahman. | ||
| If you accidentally kill somebody, that's manslaughter. | ||
| Barack Obama ordered a drone strike that killed an American citizen. | ||
| Lock him up. | ||
| You want to complain about Donald Trump ordering a commando raid in Yemen which killed an eight-year-old American girl? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Investigation. | ||
| Get the evidence. | ||
| You prove it bound to reasonable doubt. | ||
| Lock him up. | ||
| Impeach him. | ||
| All that jazz. | ||
| I will always issue the clarification. | ||
| The drone strike in Yemen, we know. | ||
| It's been confirmed and admitted to. | ||
| And the commando raid in Yemen, while confirmed, we don't have the same hard evidence of the killing of the eight-year-old girl. | ||
| Those are allegations as of right now. | ||
| I think they should be investigated. 100%. | ||
| No free passes. | ||
| No free passes for American war crimes. | ||
| So, uh, yeah, you want to complain about the Iraq war? | ||
| Bro, that's what we are all on about. | ||
| The Iraq war was disgusting. | ||
| We shouldn't have been there or Afghanistan. | ||
| The US really just wants to get that cheap gas, don't they? | ||
| And they won't build nuclear power. | ||
| How about that? | ||
| Anyway... | ||
| Why if that's a special force have been offered to help rescue hostages since some of the hostages are American citizens? | ||
| That's right. | ||
| And what they're saying is right now it's logistics and finance. | ||
| They're saying no actual boots on the ground, but I fear that it could get to that degree because it's what they do. | ||
| It's what they do when people get kidnapped. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| Alexander says, shouldn't pro-Palestine American protesters also care about the Americans killed | ||
| or taken hostage? | ||
| Also, shouldn't we evacuate Palestinian Americans from Gaza? | ||
| War is hell and we are funding both sides. | ||
| War is hell and we are funding both sides. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Especially if it's true that weapons from Ukraine and Afghanistan are leaking into Gaza. | ||
| You know where we are getting that money from is the central bank. | ||
| So really it's the central bank that's funding it. | ||
| And they're making money on it because they're getting interest back on their loans. | ||
| Lurch says, I effing told you guys. | ||
| Lurch is also the person who said that the terror attack on civilians and the murder of civilians was chipping a nail. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Same dude. | ||
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Oh. | |
| Well, hold on. | ||
| Lurch. | ||
| If you think that a bunch of dudes storming into a music festival in a bunch of small towns and massacring people is chipping a nail, then you clearly have no issue with what Israel does in Gaza. | ||
| Because, you know. | ||
| Got him. | ||
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That's stubbing a toe. | |
| Yeah, why do you care? | ||
| Oh, Palestine stubbed their toe. | ||
| Oh, come on, man. | ||
| I can't stand the people who are like... We recognize it's war, and war is bad. | ||
| We want there to be no war. | ||
| But you're not winning any favors from people who were born after the start of it by celebrating the killing of civilians. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| That's what I was saying to Max the other day. | ||
| I'm like, okay, Hamas, they feel their only strategy and only tactic is military and the kidnapping of civilians. | ||
| Then they've lost internationally and they are resigned to their prison. | ||
| Because the way I see it is, if there's somebody locked in jail and they're screaming, I'm innocent, I'm innocent, let me go, I shouldn't be here. | ||
| And then you're like, man, I don't know. | ||
| Maybe you are. | ||
| That's horrifying if you are. | ||
| And then he breaks out one day, runs full speed towards some random 20-year-old woman and mercilessly beats her to death. | ||
| I'll be like, y'all should probably be in prison. | ||
| Yeah, but then if the prison guards start exterminating all the prisoners, then you're like, whoa, who's the bad guy now? | ||
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Well, it's more like... What did the prisoners do? | |
| They were like causing ruckuses and like, which one of them are evil? | ||
| We don't know, but we're gonna let this one out. | ||
| And he turned out to be one of the bad ones. | ||
| So you're saying that a bunch of prisoners are No. | ||
| making weapons and shivs and guns. | ||
| Chaos in the prison. | ||
| And then they break out and start killing people. | ||
| So the prison guards start shooting at them. | ||
| I'm like, uh-huh. | ||
| They think it's so like what happened is the prisoner some of | ||
| the prisoners break out. | ||
| They kill a bunch of people. | ||
| So the prison guards kill those or they maybe not then what they | ||
| turn their eyes on all the prisoners that are still behind bars. | ||
| What do they do to them? | ||
| Because that's what that's those people in Gaza right now. | ||
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No, they're not. | |
| You're implying that Israel looks at Gaza and says, let's just kill people. | ||
| That's what you said. | ||
| You're implying that Israel looks at Gaza and says, let's just kill people. | ||
| No. | ||
| That's what you said. | ||
| It's like they're in the way, kind of. | ||
| Is that Israel is targeting the military and weapons depots, the Hamas depots, where they're | ||
| storing weapons and their base of operations. | ||
| And you can argue that Israel takes a wide respect to what that means, and there's a lot of collateral damage, but the implication would be that after a bunch of dudes put a bunch of weapons together in the hospital as a staging ground, then broke out and started killing people, the guards started opening fire on the hospital area, and there were workers and stuff in there who got hit as well, and they were innocent. | ||
| This is called war, and it's called collateral damage, and it's why war is BS, and it's why we hate war. | ||
| Because collateral damage always happens. | ||
| I don't know what to say, man. | ||
| My point is, if they were really like, hey, we're in an open-air prison and they broke out, maybe they would run from the prison. | ||
| Maybe they would run to the area where they were safe and outside of the prison. | ||
| So the argument about them being in a prison, I think, is nonsense. | ||
| Because a prison is something you break out of and escape from. | ||
| No, the argument is the land that Israelis live on 75 years ago was theirs and they want it back. | ||
| Okay, well now you're at war. | ||
| That's not about being in prison. | ||
| That's about you wanting to go to war. | ||
| That's why when they break out, they go to war. | ||
| So the left lies about everything. | ||
| They're in an open-air prison trying to escape. | ||
| They're marching peacefully. | ||
| I'm like, bro, if they were trying to escape from prison, they'd run. | ||
| Max Blumenthal last night was saying that they would... I'd never heard this before. | ||
| They would put their weapons away and walk barehanded to the gates and be shot and killed on their way. | ||
| They get shot in the legs, get shot. | ||
| And they're like, well, if we can't petition with our hands open, then what? | ||
| That was hard to hear. | ||
| And I suppose the issue is that's the Palestinian argument. | ||
| The Israeli argument is probably they actually did have weapons. | ||
| They were hiding them. | ||
| Not every one of them did, but a leftist tactic that we see in the United States, they will call for a public peaceful protest. | ||
| What they're really trying to do is build body mass numbers so that the people with weapons can go and hide in the crowd. | ||
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| Yeah. | ||
| So when they were like, we were marching peacefully, Israel's probably like, dude, like one in 10 had a gun and they were planning on sneaking through the crowd and shooting at people. | ||
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It's their only weapon is international public opinion to be like, no, look what they're doing to us. | |
| Look, they killed all the children that we threw at them to kill. | ||
| Yep, exactly. | ||
| They were used as shields. | ||
| It's their only weapon! | ||
| I mean, obviously the weapon's not the murder people in terrorist attack, but their most powerful weapon is international opinion and bleeding heart Western liberal governments. | ||
| Joseph Metzler says, Jordan took in 500,000 of them and they caused many problems. | ||
| Jordan killed 30,000 in one summer and forced them all back to Israel. | ||
| Wow, I did not know that. | ||
| Well, I don't know. | ||
| Fact check! | ||
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What's the number of Palestinians who had Israeli work visas? | |
| 30,000, I think? | ||
| Don't know. | ||
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Something like that? | |
| Every day? | ||
| They go back and forth? | ||
| They get to work in Israel? | ||
| They go back? | ||
| Yeah, I don't know. | ||
| I mean, it wasn't... Well, there are people of, like, they're Arab Israelis who live in Israel. | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
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Christian Israelis. | |
| And Christian, right. | ||
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Certainly mosques and churches in Israel. | |
| Yeah, there's like 400, you know? | ||
| It's a lot. | ||
| It's not a little amount. | ||
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And there's tons of asylum seekers in Israel from Palestine who are gay, who apply for asylum in Israel because they'll get killed in Gaza. | |
| Queers for Palestine. | ||
| Yeah, if anyone hasn't seen Alex Stein's Gays for Palestine thing in Plano the other day, it was hilarious. | ||
| It's pretty good. | ||
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You can follow me on X, Chadwick underscore more. | |
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| Guys, thank you so much. | ||
| This has been a cool conversation. | ||
| This was, I agree. | ||
| Thanks for coming in. | ||
| Also, the conversation tends towards, like, down a drain. | ||
| It's all going in one direction right now, so it's cool that we got to talk about the book a little bit. | ||
| Great to meet you, man. | ||
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Yeah, likewise. | |
| Same to you. | ||
| I'm Ian Crossland. | ||
| I'll catch you guys probably tomorrow. | ||
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| You mean in three minutes. | ||
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| See you then. | ||
| Yeah, it was interesting. | ||
| I almost forgot to mention last couple days, my one year anniversary of being on the show. | ||
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Oh, wow. | |
| Sick. | ||
| Yeah, I'm super excited about it. | ||
| Anyways, you can follow me at Serge.com on Twix and et cetera. | ||
| I know, it's crazy. | ||
| It's been a year. | ||
| It's been a year. | ||
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