Oct. 9, 2023 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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| Over this past weekend, there's been some very serious and extreme military conflict | ||
| erupting in the Middle East. | ||
| But to put it a bit more simply, Hamas invaded into Israel and started killing civilians | ||
| Over 5,000 rockets were fired targeting civilian areas, and it's pretty extreme in response to this. | ||
| Israel has declared a full siege on Gaza, and now we're watching buildings being flattened, and of course, You've got people on the left defending Palestine, and then you actually have establishment Democrat types criticizing the far left and actually advocating for more aid in defense of Israel, with many conservatives split as well. | ||
| Interestingly, this issue has divided everybody quite a bit, with many on the right under Trump being either very defensive of Israel or very anti-intervention. | ||
| It gets interesting when you look at exactly what went down in the big news that's happening now. | ||
| So, oh boy, do we have a lot to talk about here. | ||
| There are hostages being murdered right now by Hamas. | ||
| There are threats to execute more hostages as Israel retaliates and fires into Gaza. | ||
| And there's reports that the hostages may contain American citizens and reports that 11 Americans have already died. | ||
| We're going to talk about all that, but then there's the political ramifications as well. | ||
| Additionally, RFK Jr. | ||
| announced today that he will be running as an independent. | ||
| I believe, based on everything we've seen, there's good reason to believe this will hurt Democrats, especially considering RFK's speech was very much so. | ||
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| Look, I don't know where this goes. | ||
| We've got war in Eastern Europe, we now have one of the most serious escalations happening in the Middle East. | ||
| All I can tell you right now is, sometimes it rains, right? | ||
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| That's extreme, and we don't know what's going to happen. | ||
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| coming out for this Halloween. | ||
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| tonight. | ||
| This is gonna be interesting. | ||
| A lot of really serious breaking news going on right now and a lot to break down in history and politics. | ||
| So smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends. | ||
| Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is James Bacon. | ||
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Hi, Tim. | |
| It's James Bacon, former Special Assistant to President Trump and Director of Operations for Presidential Personnel in the Trump White House. | ||
| Happy to be here. | ||
| Right on. | ||
| Thanks for coming. | ||
| We got Hannah Clare hanging out. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Hi, I'm Hannah Clare Brimlow. | ||
| I'm a writer for TimCast.com. | ||
| You should follow at TimCastNews on all the social media platforms. | ||
| And Ian's here too. | ||
| Hi everyone. | ||
| Thank you guys for coming out to Miami on Friday. | ||
| We had an incredible event in Miami. | ||
| Patrick Bette David, Matt Gates, James O'Keefe, Tim, Luke, and I were all there. | ||
| I mean, Hannah-Claire, you were there too. | ||
| The whole gang was there. | ||
| It was great to see you guys before the show, some of you guys after the show, and today I did something I'd never done before. | ||
| I prayed to Jesus. | ||
| I've never done this before. | ||
| I've always prayed to God, so I decided to communicate with Jesus directly, and I said, please help me, and he said he told me to tell them, so I'm telling you, I did it. | ||
| Well, there you go. | ||
| Yeah, thanks. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| It was still kind of hazy. | ||
| Anyway, let's get down to the show. | ||
| Serge, talk to me. | ||
| Yo! | ||
| Yeah, pleasure to be in Miami. | ||
| It's fun. | ||
| Funny how the world kind of went to hell when we were gone. | ||
| But yeah, I'm Serge.com. | ||
| Let's get ready. | ||
| Here's a story from the Wall Street Journal, the latest. | ||
| I'm sure many of you have heard about what's been going on between Israel and Palestine. | ||
| Hamas threatens to execute Israelis in response to bombing of Gaza. | ||
| We have an image here. | ||
| Shocking image. | ||
| Flames and smoke billow during Israeli strikes in Gaza on Monday. | ||
| These photos are absolutely crazy. | ||
| There's videos now emerging from Gaza as Israel retaliates over the killing of civilians. | ||
| I believe it is estimated at 900 plus dead. | ||
| The number is probably higher now. | ||
| I think it's 1,100 now. | ||
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1,100? | |
| I'd seen something similar. | ||
| So, of course, there's going to be retaliation. | ||
| The Wall Street Journal says Hamas on Monday threatened to execute Israeli hostages if Israel continues to bombard civilian homes in Gaza without warning. | ||
| From this hour on, we announce that any targeting of civilian homes without advanced warning will be met regrettably with the execution I'm sorry, I mean it's plain as day. | ||
| civilian hostages we hold and we'll be forced to broadcast this, says Abu Obaida, the spokesman | ||
| for Hamas's military wing Al-Qassam Brigades, in remarks broadcast on Pan-Arab channel Al-Jazeera. | ||
| The enemy does not understand the language of humanity and morals and we will address | ||
| him in the language she knows. | ||
| We hold the occupation responsible for this decision in front of the world. | ||
| I'm sorry, I mean it's plain as day. | ||
| These are not secrets. | ||
| This is not someone, this is not a fake video produced, this is a human being saying, yes, | ||
| we stormed into these civilian areas, kidnapped and captured civilians that we consider enemies | ||
| and that they intend, that they're now saying they intend to kill. | ||
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Bye. | |
| Okay, this argument about freedom fighters or whatever, nah, that doesn't fly. | ||
| I'm not gonna buy it. | ||
| You wanna come at me and talk about war and history and Israel and occupation? | ||
| Like, let's have a conversation. | ||
| We can talk about the West Bank, we can talk about people going to the West Bank and bulldozing homes or seizing property, all of that stuff, we can have a conversation. | ||
| But this right here, there's zero justification. | ||
| There are people right now in New York, I shouldn't say right now, but probably right now, over this past weekend, celebrating the killing of civilians. | ||
| So what is this? | ||
| Where do we go from here? | ||
| This is a war of colonization, and it's the first time we've ever seen it on TV in real time. | ||
| It's happened for the history of mankind, but you only hear, like, they went in and they marauded 18 border towns, and then they were there and they destroyed the crops, and then they came back. | ||
| But you don't hear, you didn't see them murdering the people, raping the women, kidnapping the children to raise as their own. | ||
| Like, you don't see that. | ||
| And now we see it. | ||
| And this is what it looks like. | ||
| Yeah it's a strange part of modern warfare how quickly we can see what's going on on the ground especially given the wide access of the internet. | ||
| I mean there are a number of people that I would be interested to hear their take. | ||
| The Hadid sisters are obviously not what I would call political influencers but they have been very vocally pro-Palestine given their heritage. | ||
| It's just it's been a crazy weekend. | ||
| It's been a lot of sort of a deluge of information. | ||
| Again, I don't know what's real and what's not. | ||
| That's part of why this is an opportunity to speak scientifically on what I've seen over the weekend, I suppose. | ||
| What I find really fascinating about this is that you have far leftists And what do you call this... I don't even know what you'd call the faction of anti-Semitic or anti-Israel. | ||
| I'm not saying literally the same thing. | ||
| There's people who hate Jewish people, people who hate Israel, or... Let's try and tone it down as much as possible. | ||
| There are people who reject the idea of Israel, who are more nationalist, and then there are white nationalists. | ||
| They're aligned. | ||
| Yeah, I'm in this regard with the far left completely. | ||
| Not in the sense of like pro-Palestine, but in opposition to Israel as a state. | ||
| And it's just a very, very weird circumstance to see prominent conservatives now completely in agreement with the Democrats. | ||
| Surprisingly, it's like all of a sudden like, whoa, it's just mishing and mashing everything up. | ||
| Yeah, it is. | ||
| I mean, I think it's reflective of a lot of stuff that's going on in our country where we have been used to certain political parties claiming certain values and ultimately, especially in complicated, nuanced situations, people you wouldn't expect to agree actually have common ground. | ||
| When I think of far left, I think of people that support Palestine. | ||
| And that's what I've always kind of assumed. | ||
| And it may not be true, but the people on the far left are like, no, Israel's an invading force. | ||
| We need to, but then the, the Biden administration's engaged with the far left had this, these people, and this is maybe I'm just misreading the situation through the media. | ||
| I've been, I've been watching, but, and now Biden sent an aircraft carrier over there to support Israel, but his constituency is like the left. | ||
| And they don't want, they support Palestine, and it's a very broad general assumption, but that's a conflict of interest, and maybe that's a good thing. | ||
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Well, I think there's no room for the nuanced take here, which is obviously Israel has a right to respond and fight Hamas because they were attacked in a vicious terrorist attack, but that we should be focused on making sure this thing doesn't break out into World War III. | |
| That is what the U.S.' 's interest is here. | ||
| You know, you're right, in essence, but considering who's in charge of this country, I'm not so sure their interests align with what you're describing. | ||
| I think a lot of these companies have a vested interest in World War III. | ||
| And then there's a big question about what constitutes World War III. | ||
| With the start of the Russian invasion of Ukraine, Or you can even go back to say like the US-backed ousting of Yanukovych in Ukraine. | ||
| Whatever you want. | ||
| I mean these things can all be reduced. | ||
| You can go way back in time. | ||
| But with the conflict, the hot conflict, you've got prominent people in Europe saying this is World War III already. | ||
| Now you add into the mix what will likely be the most dramatic and egregious Military escalation from Israel into Gaza that we've ever seen and may result in the end of Gaza. | ||
| I mean, the videos that are coming out of buildings being leveled. | ||
| It's brutal. | ||
| They're saying this is our 9-11. | ||
| This could be World War III. | ||
| I mean, look. | ||
| I know everybody's always like, oh, you're being sensationalist by saying World War III. | ||
| I will just say this. | ||
| For all I know, tomorrow, everybody stops. | ||
| There's tears. | ||
| Some, you know, prophet emerges. | ||
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Who knows? | |
| And everyone stops fighting, and they're like, I can't believe we fought, and then they all hug, and it's like rainbows, okay? | ||
| For all we know, that happens, even though the conflict's been going on for generations, if not millennia. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| But if China invades Taiwan and tries to take it right now, then I think it's fair to say, like, objectively, like, okay, World War III, we've got these massive superpower-involved hot conflicts popping up all over the globe. | ||
| And even then, maybe it's still fair that there would be some argument against it. | ||
| No, maybe it's just regional conflict, right? | ||
| If this does devolve into the U.S. | ||
| mobilizing, Russia mobilizing, China mobilizing, into an actual, easily discernible World War III with a front line, a western front, they will look back historically and this will be a part of that war. | ||
| Right, so when Franz Ferdinand died, no one said, that's it, World War I, World War I's on everybody! | ||
| We post-dated it. | ||
| We said, oh, that was the start. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| I kind of get the vibe that it was 9-11 is what catapulted us into the age of world chaos. | ||
| I don't know. Look, there's been, there was Desert Storm. | ||
| There's a whole bunch of conflicts between the US and other countries and it never ended. I mean, | ||
| during the Cold War, we had a whole bunch of wars and conflict. It's not stopped. There was a period | ||
| where it was a little quieter, but there was still Afghanistan and Iraq. And World War I | ||
| and II was like the same war. | ||
| There's that interwar period where Germany was just seething because half or part of the country had been stripped away and given to Poland and those native Germans that were now under the control of the Poles were being executed and genocided and the Germans were like, you know, cast this belly for war, we need to take our land back. | ||
| And it was just like one big war with like 10 years of like quiet time. | ||
| I mean, that's probably true of all conflict in world history of all time, right? | ||
| Like, we say a war ends, but does it really? | ||
| Because the fallout is what sets up the next one. | ||
| I mean, that's going to be true obviously. | ||
| It's true now. | ||
| It's true now. | ||
| That's how we got here, and it's also will be true forever, right? | ||
| I love the idea that we live in peace, but ultimately someone is a loser when you live in peace. | ||
| There's always going to be tension. | ||
| One of the arguments they're putting forward right now is that 75 years ago, Israeli militants and militias seized land from Palestinians. | ||
| It's like, okay, I get it. | ||
| People were kicked out of their homes 75 years ago. | ||
| I don't see how that justifies kidnapping and murdering Germans. | ||
| There's that video going around of that tattoo artist. | ||
| Who was dancing at the festival, and there are people in New York celebrating that hipsters at a festival got taken. | ||
| And the guy laughs and says, I'm sure they're doing fine now. | ||
| He knows they were all murdered. | ||
| They were all murdered. | ||
| Their dead bodies paraded around. | ||
| Dude, you want to talk about war and conflict, fine, but like, if they were really trying to say like, take back their homes, or tear down the fences of an open-air prison, which by all means, make all these arguments. | ||
| I don't see how they're like, we've escaped the prison, quick, go kill civilians. | ||
| Like, imagine there's a dude who claims he was wrongfully jailed and he's in prison. | ||
| And he's like, I shouldn't be here, I'm innocent, I was forced in here by corruption and tyranny, I'm a political prisoner. | ||
| And then he breaks out, and then he runs straight for some 20-year-old woman and just beats her to death. | ||
| You'd be like, dude, you should have been in prison! | ||
| I think that a lot, the majority, probably a grand majority of the people in Palestine and in Gaza, whatever you want to call it, they call it, some people call it Gaza, some people call it Palestine, whatever. | ||
| Gaza is the strip. | ||
| It's what's left over of Palestine. | ||
| And the West Bank as well as Palestine. | ||
| So they're not violent. | ||
| They're just stuck and they're trying to live. | ||
| But then there's a militant, very angry, small group of militant activists, Hamas and others, you know, that are willing to kill and are creating a situation where these civilians are now in the line of fire. | ||
| It's true for a lot of civilians. | ||
| There are a lot of programs that try to bring aid to the Gaza Strip. | ||
| I remember... It's a really crazy thing when I went to Israel and I was in Tel Aviv. | ||
| And I know people who were involved in skateboard projects in Gaza and people skating in Gaza. | ||
| And I'm talking to this Israeli person about, you know, like, it was really cool to see in the United States a Palestinian from Gaza who made it to the U.S. | ||
| and was skateboarding with an Israeli, and they're like high-fiving and fist-bumping, being like, you know, if only we could find this kind of peace. | ||
| And then the Israeli guy goes, no, they don't skateboard. | ||
| And I was like, what? | ||
| Yes, they do. | ||
| There's like skate parks in Gaza. | ||
| No, there's not. | ||
| And I was like, Yeah, there is. | ||
| Google it right now. | ||
| I'll pull the video up for you. | ||
| I'm just like, do you genuinely think that's not true? | ||
| And I think the issue is that for a lot of these more Liberal-minded, like this German citizen who was reportedly killed was a German national, but also dual-citizen Israeli. | ||
| Conscience is objector and pacifist. | ||
| And it's these people who are raised in this leftist mindset, liberal mindset of world peace. | ||
| And perhaps they saw one of these videos of this dude from Palestine fist-bumping a guy from Israel. | ||
| Of course, Palestinians got really mad about that. | ||
| But the dudes in America is like, I just want to escape, man. | ||
| Leave me alone. | ||
| Like, they don't care about anything else. | ||
| And, uh, and I've also heard the inverse, too. | ||
| But they see stories like this and, like, we can't have peace. | ||
| And then, like, I'll say it again, like, call it an open-air prison. | ||
| That's fine. | ||
| I got no argu- Like, let's have an argument. | ||
| We'll talk about it. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| You can call it what you want. | ||
| But if you're gonna make the argument that they're trying to break free... | ||
| Then they just run out and start killing people. | ||
| And the woman who got killed was this pacifist. | ||
| It's like, well, that was a cold, hard lesson in gun control and peace. | ||
| When there are people who believe that you as a civilian and a tourist are an evil, evil that needs to be purged, there's no negotiating. | ||
| Somebody dancing to music? | ||
| Well, we can argue about, like, lewd and lascivious behavior and stuff and, like, the devolution or the degradation of society and stuff, but come on, man, like, What's the justification for running into a music festival and just gunning people down? | ||
| Because in their mind, it doesn't matter who you are, you're all evil. | ||
| So it's like, what's justice in this situation? | ||
| If these people in New York are chanting from the river to the sea, They're talking about genocide. | ||
| They're talking about mass execution. | ||
| Dude, I'll say it again. | ||
| You want to talk about 1948? | ||
| You want to talk about the British occupied Palestine and all of that stuff? | ||
| Let's have a conversation. | ||
| But you ain't getting anything from me when you are literally singing songs about mass executing all the civilians who live there. | ||
| It was 1918, I think, when the British mandate for Palestine, and okay, I'm not exactly sure what year. | ||
| I think there's something called the Balfour Declaration was signed. | ||
| And what happened was during World War I, the British and the French were like, we cannot win. | ||
| We're going to lose. | ||
| The Ottoman Empire is annihilating us. | ||
| The Germans, the Austrians, they're too powerful. | ||
| So they made a deal with the Ottomans and they were like, we will give... Actually, let me fix that. | ||
| They made a deal with the Arabs, not the Ottomans. | ||
| They made a deal with the Arabs. | ||
| The Arabs were also with Germans and the Austrians. | ||
| The British and the French made a deal with the Arabs and they said, if you help us win, if you turn on the Ottoman Empire, we'll give you this area, which is now Israel. | ||
| We'll give this to you, Arabs. | ||
| So the Arabs said, okay. | ||
| So they turned on the Ottomans and then we won the war. | ||
| And then they went back on their offer and they said, no, we're going to keep that area for ourself. | ||
| And they set up the British mandate for Palestine and occupied it. | ||
| And ever since that's like the inception point of when the Arabs are like, you promised us our land back. | ||
| We helped you. | ||
| We died for you. | ||
| And now you took it and now you're there. | ||
| And And that was it. | ||
| That's where it began. | ||
| And then there's something called the Sykes-Picot Agreement, where I think Israel was officially formed. | ||
| I don't want to speak too much on this, but there's something called the Sykes-Picot Agreement, which is worth looking into, too. | ||
| This is one of the reasons why I'm, like, very anti-intervention. | ||
| I never say I'm, like, absolutely anti-intervention, because sometimes I recognize, like, none of the things are absolute. | ||
| But the problem is, you've got a lot of people who don't know enough about any of this, and it's so fervent and insane. | ||
| The people being like, Israel has a right, blah blah blah, and you know, whatever, and I'm like, bro, I'm sitting here watching people kill civilians, saying like, hey, don't kill civilians, and then people are still mad. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| Like, the pro-Israel side is saying they're justified in everything they're doing and whatever, in retaliation, and then the pro-Palestine side are saying that they're justified in pushing out these occupiers, and I'm like, bro, it's like a 20-year-old woman at a music festival got killed. | ||
| Not the only one. | ||
| And of course, I understand there's fog of war and there's propaganda, but dude, nobody mass-produced big fake videos and got these guys to go on TV and admit to doing these things. | ||
| I mean, this is how I felt when we got involved with Ukraine, right? | ||
| What is the American interest here? | ||
| And do we actually have one? | ||
| I understand calls for, you know, you've got to protect innocent people and, you know, whatever. | ||
| But ultimately, all of these things are much more nuanced conflicts than the American media presents to the people. | ||
| And we use it to justify investing tons and tons of money into stuff that I'm not sure is in the best interest of American people. | ||
| I want to play this clip for you guys. | ||
| This is a tweet from Julio Rosas. | ||
| Andy Ngo has quote tweeted it. | ||
| At the Hamas celebration rally in Times Square organized by the far left socialists and Palestinian nationalists, a speaker talks about the Islamist attacks that killed hundreds of Israelis, mostly civilians. | ||
| The crowd cheers. | ||
| I hope you're ready to hear this. | ||
| This is awful. | ||
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Early morning on Saturday, October 7th, our resistance stormed illegal settlements and | |
| paraglided across colonial borders. | ||
| We made it to the largest military base around Qasr al-Karim, Al-Bukhari. | ||
| In this operation, and also flood, the resistance fired more than 5,000 rockets. | ||
| Wait for it. | ||
| You hear that? | ||
| Reaching Tel Aviv. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| In a conflict. | ||
| Let's say you're in a prison. | ||
| You're in a prison. | ||
| They say it's an open-air prison. | ||
| You're locked up and you're like, it is unjust. | ||
| I was put here against my will and my parents were here. | ||
| And so you decide... | ||
| To start bombing the town next door with a bunch of civilians who live nearby. | ||
| You're not breaking out, you're not... It's like a sally out, kind of. | ||
| If you're in a siege situation and you're the one that's under siege, sometimes they'll sally out and try and cause havoc in the enemy camp, the enemy siege camp, and then come back and kill as much and destroy as much as they can. | ||
| That's kind of what this was. | ||
| Well, imagine if... | ||
| They didn't kill a bunch of civilians. | ||
| Targeted the military only. | ||
| And were seen on video clearing civilians out and telling them to get back. | ||
| And then issued a statement saying, you know, our issue is with the occupying force of the Israeli government who have oppressed and suppressed us. | ||
| We will take every, every effort to protect the lives of civilians. | ||
| That's not what they're doing. | ||
| They're outright saying, in quotes, they will execute civilians to get what they want. | ||
| There is evil in this world. | ||
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It's not tactically smart from their standpoint either because now there's justification for them being completely wiped out. | |
| Yep. | ||
| This video in particular just reminds me of Pavlov's dog, right? | ||
| She says colonizers and the crowd who's all raised in the West, they're all American, cheer because They know from every public school history lesson that the word colonization is always bad. | ||
| I mean they can't see that there might be any bias in this. | ||
| I mean obviously they've chosen to go to this so they have their own own leaning but with this argument it's it's just I don't I don't know I I hate that this is something that people are going to decide they have an opinion on all of a sudden because of the media media slant because really it's an area of the world that most people don't understand well enough to truly understand what's going on. | ||
| They have signs at this protest saying end U.S. | ||
| funding of Israel. | ||
| Many of the people who are arguing that we not fund Israel, it's not a principled argument about America first and saving the American people. | ||
| It is them secretly trying to get Israel to be in a weakened position so that they can start genociding people. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| Look, I'm not saying that Israelis like Palestinians. | ||
| I'm not saying that at all. | ||
| I'm saying these people here are referring to Hamas as their fighters. | ||
| There's another video where they say the same thing. | ||
| Where these activists and Palestinians, and there's many, there's Palestinians here, outright say that Hamas is them, and they're doing this intentionally. | ||
| Constantine Kissin made an excellent tweet, I think it was yesterday, and saying, you people in the West, and he was kind of like, is like, you've been told for so long that they hate you for your freedom. | ||
| And it's not that, they hate you because you have more power than them. | ||
| And if they had more power than you, they would conquer you, colonize you, and turn you into something much worse. | ||
| So, Get your head straight, and I've been so anti-war, I put it in quotes, but like, for 20 years, like, no, don't, but like, I can only fathom what would happen if the United States was taken over by marauders or barbarians that would rape and kill. | ||
| Like, that would be... This is the far left. | ||
| ...inconscionable. | ||
| We cannot allow that to happen. | ||
| This is the far left. | ||
| They, they, the Democratic Socialists of America promoted this rally, and at this rally, they celebrated the targeting of civilians. | ||
| Ocasio-Cortez is a card-carrying member of the Democratic Socialists of America. | ||
| Has she spoken up about it? | ||
| I don't think so, other than the squad called for a ceasefire, which is just, I just, look man, yes, okay, we don't want any more fighting, but you are hard-pressed to be like, hey, we stormed and killed a bunch of civilians, took a bunch of hostages, now ceasefire. | ||
| It just seems like arrogance on their part, right? | ||
| But we called for it over here in America, so you guys should stop. | ||
| I think they thought, the Hamas perhaps thought, that taking the hostages would prevent any kind of retaliation, and they miscalculated, and then when the bombs started dropping in Gaza they were like, we need to stop this right now. | ||
| No, no, they're saying they're going to execute the civilians. | ||
| In response to now the bombs, but I think they thought that if they took the civilians, a lot of captives, then they'd have some time. | ||
| I disagree. | ||
| The Al-Qassam Brigade sets up rocket depots in hospitals and schools and residential areas on purpose to force Israel to strike civilian targets and then complain that they're striking civilian targets. | ||
| The argument from any of the pro-Palestine side is, where should their resistance fighters set up at all? | ||
| Because there's no military bases there. | ||
| And where do the people go? | ||
| What do we do? | ||
| Do we take them in as refugees into the United States? | ||
| Well, a lot of people are saying expect to see, you know, millions of refugees now. | ||
| And this is another thing which maybe we'll touch on. | ||
| You talk about an open border, hundreds of thousands of people coming across. | ||
| How many of those people are like sleeper cell? | ||
| Yes, it's a serious concern, right? | ||
| This is true of all kinds of things. | ||
| Saying you're a refugee doesn't necessarily mean- and that's terrible because there are people in awful positions who do need support and help, but opening every border in the U.S. | ||
| because we've decided to get involved in wars that we are ultimately not sure how we're going to end anyways is sort of Not the solution, right? | ||
| We're creating more problems for everyone all the time. | ||
| I mean, it is one of the reasons that you have to be so critical of the Biden administration, which is that they were not proactive on the border the way they should have been, and they have also been club-footed when it comes to international diplomacy. | ||
| They have not put an American in a strong position, so we're actually, in my opinion, not in a very strong position to help anyone in any way. | ||
| So, there are a lot of reasons for this, and I'm not trying to put anyone on the spot, it's not a rhetorical question, it's a literal question for you guys. | ||
| For what reason is the U.S. | ||
| providing military funding to Israel? | ||
| to protect the Suez Canal. It just depends on how you're looking at it. | ||
| Well, that's Egypt though. That's the Sinai Peninsula. Yeah, but Israel's got war | ||
| war plans and Egypt's also on our side. It's on the side of... | ||
| Right, but Israel is not... | ||
| The Suez is controlled by Egypt. Shipping, maybe. But well, I mean, | ||
| they kind of guards the Suez. It's not... Obviously, the Suez is in Egypt, yeah. | ||
| It's a... Yeah, it's on the... So, the Sinai Peninsula is where the Suez is, and then you | ||
| have Israel further east of there. So, perhaps there's a strategic military point because it | ||
| gives them the eastern side of the Suez, I suppose. | ||
| It always was, too, because the Romans would sail over there, well, they would do it through Egypt, but then they would pick their boats up and walk them across before the canal was ever built, and then put it back down, and then I mean, it probably is the most logical reason. | ||
| The control of canals is massive. | ||
| I mean, right now we're looking... The conflict in Ukraine has a lot to do with the Bosphorus. | ||
| It was the Bosphorus Strait. | ||
| That's going through Turkey. | ||
| That opens up the Black Sea to the Mediterranean. | ||
| So taking Russia's warm water port in Crimea, if NATO were to acquire or the EU were to absorb Ukraine, would be very bad for Russia. | ||
| So now Russia's trying to secure this whole land bridge into Crimea because that's where they have access to the Black Sea. | ||
| And then there's other points of access they have into the Black Sea as well. | ||
| But this is a major naval base for them. | ||
| And then of course you have what may be the Suez. | ||
| Obviously the Panama Canal was massively and strategically important for us to control. | ||
| And I think it was like 10 years ago, China was trying to build a Nicaraguan canal, which is insane because the landmass is massive, whereas Panama is very thin. | ||
| And then with the Nicaraguan canal, they would have to decimate this natural aquifer that everyone got water from. | ||
| Ultimately, I think the program was abandoned, however. | ||
| But it could be. | ||
| It could be that the US, we hear this all the time that Israel is our most important ally in the region. | ||
| I'm like, okay, I guess in the sense that in terms of the form of government and the perception, like the world view, yes, that makes sense. | ||
| But what is the actual strategic military purpose? | ||
| I wonder. | ||
| Anybody got a better idea than the Suez? | ||
| I mean, that's what I would say. | ||
| I mean, I think ultimately America thinks of itself as historically Israel's ally, and so it feels the need to intervene. | ||
| It's a question that I think everyone should ask themselves, like, what really is the strategic purpose of getting involved at this point? | ||
| And I honestly don't have a great answer for it, and I think a lot of Americans will feel that way. | ||
| Should we continue to, you know, we've already moved military ships closer to Israel. | ||
| We are preparing to get involved in more ways than we are already now. | ||
| We already spent billions of dollars on Ukraine this year. | ||
| I mean, here we go. | ||
| Not something that we can really do. | ||
| We're going into an election. | ||
| I wonder if this strike is partly because they know the U.S. | ||
| is fractured and distracted. | ||
| Yeah, speaking of distracted, Jack Posobiec tweeted out earlier here to his White House staffer this from two hours ago. | ||
| He's saying that this is from a White House staffer. | ||
| Biden keeps bringing up Ukraine during briefings on Israel. | ||
| He's getting the two wars mixed up. | ||
| Austin, Lloyd Austin, Secretary of Defense, barely showing up to the meetings anymore. | ||
| Blinken making more decisions than anyone. | ||
| So you talk about confusion within the leadership of the United States right now. | ||
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| He's probably concerned about getting caught for his business stuff in Ukraine. | ||
| Yeah, and also, you know, we've all had concerns about Biden's mental faculties always. | ||
| So maybe it's just, you know, the old age catching up with him. | ||
| You know, they had a barbecue yesterday. | ||
| They were at a barbecue at the White House. | ||
| Biden and his wife and a bunch of the White House staff were the day before yesterday. | ||
| Like during the bombs dropping in Israel, Biden's throwing a party. | ||
| Well, yeah, but to be fair, during the bombs... It's probably pre-scheduled. | ||
| Cancel the party. | ||
| No, during the bombs... Get to the war room. | ||
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| No, during the bombs going off in Sudan or Somalia, they're also having barbecues. | ||
| Yeah, but it's Israel. | ||
| So what? | ||
| This is another problem I have with many of the people who are like, we need to intervene in Ukraine or... Israel's our ally. | ||
| I'm like, China's running concentration camps where they're genociding Uighur Muslims. | ||
| I was on Twitter. | ||
| Are we going to go to every single country on the planet whenever a bomb falls? | ||
| No, but if one of your military allies is under attack, you go to the war room and that's where you stay for the next 28 hours or whatever. | ||
| I was on Twitter for like 12 hours yesterday. | ||
| Biden can do it. | ||
| He should be. | ||
| Let's say he's our commander. | ||
| He's a military commander. | ||
| When bombs drop, commander, go to war room. | ||
| Considering, and I accept this, considering the severity of the escalation, yes, I agree. | ||
| That he should have been. | ||
| But it does frustrate me that the news goes nuts when, like, Ukraine goes off. | ||
| And I'm like, a border dispute with Russia and a neighboring nation? | ||
| Why do I care? | ||
| Why aren't we talking about what's going on in, say, these African nations? | ||
| We didn't intervene with the IRA way back in the day. | ||
| There are definitely, there has always been a stance that we pick and choose and I'm glad that you brought up the Uighur Muslims because we still sent our Olympic team. | ||
| We made a big show of saying we're not going to send any of our officials or diplomats yet we still went with it. | ||
| I mean the double standard for what we are allowed to be outraged on humanitarian platforms it's just ridiculous and I think ultimately we know that this is not Based on any sort of bleeding heart, dedication to anything. | ||
| It's always about something strategic and powerful. | ||
| And in this case, we've already put ourselves in a weak position. | ||
| So what are we, I think that's like, I can't get past the point of what is the purpose of this? | ||
| I just, my question is what, what about Israel makes people's brains stop working? | ||
| No question. | ||
| I think it's just like, because of religion, because of Judaism, they feel so connected to the land itself. | ||
| I'm not talking about people who are Jewish or Israeli. | ||
| I'm talking about right now on Twitter. | ||
| Right now, even in our chats, there are people whose brains shut off the moment the subject of Israel comes up. | ||
| They stop listening to arguments. | ||
| When it comes to Ukraine, you can have a rational conversation about intervention. | ||
| Israel happens, and it's just hyper-polarized. | ||
| No matter what you say, you're wrong. | ||
| No matter what you say, you're right. | ||
| There's no rational thought whatsoever. | ||
| It's the most annoying thing in the world. | ||
| I used to have a chat server And the most annoying thing in the world was people always tried to make Israel a subject. | ||
| Like, to talk about it when it was not even in the news. | ||
| Whatever it is, there are places in the world right now where there are tribal factions locking up, oppressing, beating, and murdering other factions. | ||
| China, for instance, but for some reason, it's Israel. | ||
| It's so annoying. | ||
| I'm like, hey, okay, let's check out the history of what's going on, and they're like, The people right now, the conspiracy theory is that Israel knew it was going to happen and let it happen so they could justify flattening Gaza. | ||
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And it's just like, okay, dude. | |
| At any point, everyone is just going to choose what they want to be the reality. | ||
| There are videos of things happening. | ||
| If you're going to make the assumptions that Israel knew, There's a report saying Egypt warned them of something big 10 days ago. | ||
| That doesn't mean anything. | ||
| Saying, hey, something's coming, watch out, something big. | ||
| What are they supposed to, how are they going to act on that? | ||
| Okay, I guess we'll secure something or whatever, we'll look for something big. | ||
| But people just lose their minds. | ||
| And we've had people on this show where they just get really, really, really angry at the subject and start ranting about it. | ||
| And I'm like, what is up with people, dude? | ||
| Certainly, World War II, the way Hitler exterminated six million, according to historical records of Jewish people, has caused an emotional attachment to just the entire concept of Judaism and extermination of humanity. | ||
| So that's a big part of it. | ||
| It's like, never again, kind of mentality. | ||
| Like, I can't even go there. | ||
| I can't even consider that. | ||
| And it's like, because it happened. | ||
| And honestly, the Jewish population has been For whatever reason, persecuted throughout history in different countries. | ||
| I think in England, they were actually kicked out of the country by one of the kings of England at one point. | ||
| Just completely tossed out because of their, I don't know, bank. | ||
| What was it? | ||
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It has to do with usury and the fact they allow usury. | |
| That's a whole other thing. | ||
| Well, let's jump to more American domestic politics in relation to this. | ||
| We have this from FirstPost.com. | ||
| Did the weapons Hamas used against Israel come from Ukraine or Afghanistan, asks U.S. | ||
| Congresswoman. | ||
| Marjorie Taylor Greene says, we need to work with Israel to track serial numbers on any U.S. | ||
| weapons used by Hamas against Israel. | ||
| Did they come from Afghanistan? | ||
| Did they come from Ukraine? | ||
| Highly likely the answer is both. | ||
| I don't completely disagree. | ||
| I mean, I don't know for sure. | ||
| What we need is evidence. | ||
| But we have this from Jim Ferguson on Twitter. | ||
| Jim Ferguson, UK. | ||
| He is former parliamentary candidate with the Brexit Party in Barnsley, reporting, Breaking news, Israel, U.S. | ||
| weapons left behind in Afghanistan used to attack Israel. | ||
| A high-ranking Israel defense forces commander said U.S. | ||
| weapons left in Afghanistan by the Biden administration were found in the hands of Palestinian groups active in the Gaza Strip. | ||
| The chaos that erupted after the U.S. | ||
| scrambled to evacuate Afghanistan, as ordered by Biden, and the significant amount of weapons and equipment left behind there, has now been used to attack Israel, a close ally of the U.S. | ||
| Biden is incapable of leadership, and a total embarrassment on the world stage. | ||
| I don't know that any of this is confirmed, right? | ||
| We have this link. | ||
| I wonder if it works. | ||
| This is, uh, homage news. | ||
| I don't know what this source is. | ||
| Take these things with a grain of salt. | ||
| This is a story from June 18th, 2023. | ||
| Weapons left by the U.S. | ||
| and Afghanistan reach the hands of Palestinian militants, says Israel. | ||
| And again, this is from June. | ||
| So it may be the case. | ||
| And I think it is fair to say, considering the Taliban's desire to support Gaza, the Palestinians, it makes sense that the weapons that they got control over would fall into the hands of the Palestinians. | ||
| Now, the bigger picture, I suppose, is whether or not any of this is true, as I mentioned a moment ago, people, when it comes to Israel-Palestine, their brains shut off. | ||
| I'm sorry, I'm not saying literally everyone, maybe not you guys, but it's impossible to have conversations with people about this. | ||
| We've even had guests, like I mentioned, who just lose it and can't hear a reason. | ||
| Their brains are just not working. | ||
| The point is, that being said, this will be tremendously bad for Joe Biden. | ||
| When Afghanistan happened, Joe Biden lost something like 15 points in the polls. | ||
| I imagine Netanyahu cannot stand the guy. | ||
| I imagine he finds no comfort in Biden being around, being in control, you want to call it. | ||
| Obviously, the surrender of military equipment and human life to the Taliban in Afghanistan was one of those egregious losses of American military Right. | ||
| I mean, this this theory is even on the table because Biden handled Afghanistan so poorly, right? | ||
| We can't totally know for sure. | ||
| You know, I agree with Tim. | ||
| Take it a little with a grain of salt. | ||
| But the fact that we know weapons and other supplies were left behind means that this is on the table in the first place, which, again, is a direct responsibility of the Biden administration. | ||
| I don't understand how anyone can defend Biden going into 2024, given the record and the position that he has put everyone in in the last, what, two years of his presidency? | ||
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But I don't like that everyone is kind of jumping on the Biden administration and trying to blame America for this conflict. | |
| This conflict has been going on for a long time, to say the least. | ||
| For sure, for sure. | ||
| Everyone wants to always attribute things to America, like, oh, they released the aid to the sanctions on Iran, so they got six billion. | ||
| It's like, that hasn't been confirmed. | ||
| We don't know that Iran directly directed this attack. | ||
| We don't know that the funds were directly used. | ||
| But what we're seeing are people like Senator Lindsey Graham and the neocons in the Republican Party trying to score points against Biden and saying we need to bomb Iran's oil refineries when we don't even know what the facts are yet. | ||
| We don't even know the extent of this stuff. | ||
| Someone pointed that out about Lindsey Graham. | ||
| He's almost 70 and has no kids, so he has, like, nothing to lose. | ||
| Hey, look, I'll tell you what. | ||
| He wants to put on the cowboy hat and ride the atomic bomb down. | ||
| What was that, Dr. Strangelove? | ||
| I actually visualized him going to the front lines in his fat body. | ||
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| Hey, look, man, if you tell me that you're in favor of funding and support for any country, no matter what it is, Israel or Ukraine, hey, man, I got some military PTs. | ||
| We got some ammo. | ||
| We'll suit you up. | ||
| We'll put you in basic training. | ||
| We'll send you right off first light. | ||
| And when I visualized him going, he'd be like, I'm too old to go! | ||
| But it's okay for your relatives and sons and children to go. | ||
| It's fine with him. | ||
| Hey man, look, you know, more people is still better, right? | ||
| So, if you're in favor of going to war with any country, like, I gotta, we could suit you up, you know what I mean? | ||
| So, the people who are all for intervention in Ukraine, it's like, let's suit you up, buddy! | ||
| Like, I, and look, a lot of the people did go! | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Remember that guy from, what was that, MSNBC guy? | ||
| Who went to Ukraine? | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah. | ||
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Who was that? | |
| I don't remember who it was. | ||
| Malcolm Nance. | ||
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Oh, yeah, yeah, Malcolm was! | |
| He did that fake video where he pointed and... | ||
| Didn't he pretend that there was like an airstrike or something when there wasn't one? | ||
| No, there was like a, you heard a sound of a jet or something, or a bombing, and he goes, he's like, one, two bomb, three bombings. | ||
| That's what's happening. | ||
| It's like, oh, shut up, dude. | ||
| Yeah, that was horrible. | ||
| But hey, look, man, at least he went there, I guess. | ||
| It reminds me of that movie, Edge of Tomorrow, when they're like gonna send Tom Cruise to the front line. | ||
| Like, M. Malcolm Nance, you're going in. | ||
| But hey, look, I'm not saying that Israel's right or wrong, I'm just saying if you want military funding for any of these countries, Lindsey Graham wants to bomb Iran, bro, I will put you in that plane, you can pull the lever. | ||
| Let's get you going, buddy. | ||
| My point is this, they won't do it. | ||
| No, they want your kids to go die for this. | ||
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That's sick. | |
| You know, I think this is not a war of Islam against Judaism. | ||
| I think it's a war of, release us from this open-air prison. | ||
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No. | |
| I don't think it's a religious thing. | ||
| It's always been for land. | ||
| Hezbollah exists. | ||
| Iran has stated they want to kill Jews. | ||
| They'll use it to rally people. | ||
| It's always been for land, even though they... | ||
| Hezbollah exists, okay? | ||
| Alright? | ||
| Iran has stated they want to kill Jews. | ||
| They'll use it to rally people. | ||
| It is not about... | ||
| But I'm thinking about 9-11, which is why I brought it up, because they said it's the Muslims that want to... | ||
| No, we wanted the oil in the Middle East, so we went in and took it, and we said, Muslim, Muslim, and we caused all this chaos, and it was just like, that was stupid of me, because now I'm like, I want to I'm thinking like, dude, the worst threat we could face is Islamic terrorists. | ||
| It's not. | ||
| Okay, it is terrorism in general. | ||
| But I think the Russians are Christian. | ||
| I mean, the Russians are like Orthodox Christian, they should be on our side, defending what's right, you know, what's what's good and right. | ||
| I'm not saying it's a real but I don't want to turn into a some religious thing. | ||
| It's just we got to we got to call a white peace in Ukraine and start working together to defend Earth. | ||
| I mean, I don't think Ukraine wants to... Ukraine and Russia have not successfully worked out a peace deal, I'll say that, and I think it would be impossible to say, okay guys, we've got a new world conflict, so you guys just take a pause and we'll move on. | ||
| I mean, what I'm waiting for next is anything to happen in Taiwan, because everyone can tell that We are on the brink of very serious chaos and I think everyone knows the U.S. | ||
| doesn't have strong leadership. | ||
| I agree with your point. | ||
| We can't blame the Biden administration for everything. | ||
| There are lots of historical factors going in. | ||
| I just know that in the last three years we have not positioned ourselves the way I would like to be going into this kind of conflict. | ||
| There's a question about whether the leadership of the American federal government is best serving the American people. | ||
| I can't say internationally what's going on. | ||
| We can blame the Biden administration. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, look, we can reduce any argument. | ||
| We can go further and further back. | ||
| What was the real cause of World War II? | ||
| World War I? | ||
| What was the real cause of World War I? | ||
| Okay, fine. | ||
| At a certain point, we talk about the actions here. | ||
| Under Donald Trump, Abraham Accords, normalization of relations between Israel and many Arabic nations, Donald Trump, no new wars, and while there was budding conflict with Ukraine and Russia, under Obama, it stops when Trump gets in. | ||
| Weird. | ||
| Trump actually starts investigating this corruption. | ||
| How strange. | ||
| ISIS decimated. | ||
| The intention of the existing administration, the unit party in this country, is to perpetuate war for their neo-liberal new world order, whatever you want to call it. | ||
| Those are their words, not mine. | ||
| When they say the, what do they call it, the liberal world order and the liberal economic order or the new world order. | ||
| Again, it was the CFR that called it a new world order, whatever. | ||
| I think they also call it like the American-led liberal economic order. | ||
| They'll specify that it was an American-led thing. | ||
| Trump's attitude is like, we're gonna secure our borders and bring manufacturing back and mind our own business. | ||
| And everyone else was like... | ||
| Well, okay, that sounds good to us. | ||
| And then Biden gets in and he's like, I'm gonna blow him up! | ||
| And now we've got war everywhere. | ||
| Which is crazy. | ||
| So yeah, I'm sorry. | ||
| It's like, at a certain point, I'm not gonna go into the nitty gritty of all the classified documents to determine, was Russia biding their time? | ||
| And it was just a coincidence that all of this happened the way it did. | ||
| And just be like, nah, the simple answer is this. | ||
| Under Donald Trump, no war. | ||
| Under Joe Biden, lots of war. | ||
| I think it's Biden administration's fault. | ||
| Yeah, and Trump even had Bolton in. | ||
| Trump at one point told Putin that if he aggressed, Trump would nuke Moscow. | ||
| He told Xi Jinping that as well. | ||
| And then I think he was like, I don't know if he believed me, but even if it was five percent, that's enough. | ||
| Trump said that, and he's right. | ||
| Yeah, it's any kind of doubt. | ||
| I mean, he was the one who carried it out. | ||
| No one believes that Biden could do the same thing. | ||
| And I think I don't know. | ||
| I know we're going to talk about RFK Jr. | ||
| in a second, but I just really think this is one of the moments that Democrats are going to have to evaluate if they can get behind the Biden administration for a second term. | ||
| I think this might be it for him. | ||
| This is going to destroy the Biden administration. | ||
| His base is like pro-Palestine, I mean, I think. | ||
| So him sending support to Israel immediately disqualifies him. | ||
| No, they're absolutely not. | ||
| You don't think the far left base? | ||
| No, the average Democrat voter probably doesn't know or care at all and might just give you a generic, but we support Israel, far leftists. | ||
| We'll vote for Joe Biden because they're crazy people. | ||
| And but not all of them did. | ||
| But but a lot of them did. | ||
| A lot of these prominent leftists and Antifa people who have big social media followings endorsed Joe Biden and said, like, we're we got to support him because Trump's a fascist. | ||
| So they did. | ||
| They support Palestine. | ||
| But but Joe Biden's actual voter base, which is the default liberal, is probably more aligned with Israel. | ||
| The ignorant masses? | ||
| Yeah, the ignorant masses, all they hear is Democrats saying, like, Israel's an ally, we must protect them. | ||
| And they go, yeah! | ||
| The far leftists are like Palestinians, you know, from the River to Sea, etc, etc. | ||
| And then you have conservatives who understand quite a bit more and overtly support Israel. | ||
| Not all of them, but a lot of them. | ||
| And then you have libertarians who don't want us involved in any of it. | ||
| That actually is not working for me anymore. | ||
| I used to start to think along those lines of non-interventionalism, but not anymore. | ||
| Why? | ||
| What changed? | ||
| Um, I thought a lot about World War Two, and if we hadn't gotten involved in World War Two, what would have happened? | ||
| Hitler would have taken over the world. | ||
| I really don't think so. | ||
| I mean, he was about to. | ||
| He took France in like three weeks. | ||
| Taking over the world is a very, very bold and kind of crazy statement, considering he would have taken Europe. | ||
| He would have taken Britain. | ||
| He would have taken Europe, he would have taken Britain, and he would have murdered lots and lots of innocent people. | ||
| But the world is a bit much. | ||
| You know, right now they're saying, like, Vladimir Putin's gonna take Poland. | ||
| I'm like, oh, shut up. | ||
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| No way. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| No way. | ||
| You know, they're like, they're saying like, the Russian forces are decimated and they're losing and Ukraine's winning, but he'll take Poland! | ||
| I think I was saying, was it before the show, I've been so accustomed to false flags, just because Golf of Tonkin, I was talking to my dad, he was like, oh yeah, that was, he went, he served in Vietnam, he was in the Navy, and he remembers the false, so that I'm like, so anti-interventionalist, but uh, Then sometimes people just get attacked. | ||
| Sometimes your country gets invaded. | ||
| And I've never lived that life, because I'm from the United States in the late 90s, you know, where we never got invaded. | ||
| But now, sometimes it just, sometimes it can happen. | ||
| And you've got to be realistic about that. | ||
| There's no time to waffle if your country's under attack. | ||
| You can't let the hot air balloon float all the way across your landmass. | ||
| Like, a split-second decision. | ||
| The spy balloon that we did let float across America? | ||
| Yeah, it's asinine. | ||
| And Montana was like, wait, there's something here. | ||
| And we were just like, who knows? | ||
| We'll just see what happens. | ||
| Oh, wait, we shot it down later. | ||
| I mean, I get, you know, the desire to sort of feel like you need to act right. | ||
| But in this case, you have to go back to, like, our government is to serve the American people and what is ultimately the best interest of the American people. | ||
| I can understand an argument for we have allies, we've made agreements, we've made deals. | ||
| But, you know, I think the president has the duty to the American people first. | ||
| And we can't forget that. | ||
| I want to pull up a story from CNN. | ||
| 11 U.S. | ||
| citizens dead in Israel conflict, Biden says. | ||
| And then we have this from ABC. | ||
| Biden says it is likely Americans are among Hamas hostages with 11 killed. | ||
| I don't see how Biden can recover from this electorally. | ||
| He's already down. | ||
| And now you have... It doesn't matter what you think is true. | ||
| In fact, it doesn't even matter what is true. | ||
| It matters what people end up believing is true. | ||
| Certainly, I do believe the truth matters, and we try our best to get to it, but the political ads are all gonna say one simple line, under Donald Trump, historic peace agreements with Israel. | ||
| Under Joe Biden, 11 Americans dead in escalating conflict. | ||
| Afghanistan withdrawal. | ||
| It's just, he's gonna, these, his, I don't see how he pulls out of this. | ||
| Yeah, when it comes to military, I think you realize that nothing else really matters when your survival is on the line. | ||
| I haven't heard the word trans in like three days. | ||
| I haven't seen anything about culture war crap on Twitter. | ||
| Maybe one or two things. | ||
| It's all been about the death and destruction and potential loss of life. | ||
| That's all that really matters when it comes down to it. | ||
| Well, it is Indigenous People's Day, and that is a big thing. | ||
| And I didn't even know that until like four o'clock, and I was like, are we doing a show tonight? | ||
| It's Columbus Day. | ||
| It's all over Twitter. | ||
| Oh, well, I see Israel, Palestine, Gaza in my Twitter feed, and I'm glad. | ||
| We need a strong military commander. | ||
| That's what we need right now. | ||
| Ian, you were saying you used to be anti-intervention. | ||
| You're not anymore. | ||
| Would you support U.S. | ||
| intervention in Israel? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| In fact, yes. | ||
| Immediate intervention. | ||
| And for better or worse, to help bring water to the people of Gaza, for starters. | ||
| Well, that's in Palestine, I guess. | ||
| So in the region, you're saying yes to intervention? | ||
| I would like to facilitate some sort of peace deal. | ||
| I'm not advocating for blowing people up at this point. | ||
| Yes, yes, Ian. | ||
| You and millions of people for generations would like to broker a peace deal. | ||
| Good luck. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But yeah, absolutely. | ||
| I think we need to be, we're the strongest military force on earth. | ||
| We need to be involved. | ||
| So what do you think? | ||
| You think like US boots on the ground? | ||
| Troops? | ||
| No, no. | ||
| Israel's capable of taking care of itself. | ||
| So you're not talking about intervention, you're talking about NGO aid? | ||
| But if you said Israel's capable of taking care of itself, then what do you want us to do? | ||
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Military aid? | |
| We're on TV, man. | ||
| I can't really say that stuff on TV. | ||
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The Biden administration already announced they're giving weapons to Israel for this right now. | |
| So that's already happened. | ||
| I support it. | ||
| I absolutely support it, man. | ||
| Whether or not they let this thing happen, those dudes murdered, raped, like they were, they killed, from what I'm reading about this music festival... Did they rape? | ||
| They killed people and then they raped women right next to their friends' dead corpses. | ||
| That's true? | ||
| This is what I've been reading. | ||
| I don't, this is all... I mean, that could be world propaganda, bro. | ||
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It could be. | |
| It could be. | ||
| Maybe the whole thing is war propaganda. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| A lot of it is. | ||
| And so watch out, because when the Ukraine war started, all that... Look, let's be honest. | ||
| Israel is so much better at propaganda than... But I think two things that a man needs and will kill for is eating and having sex. | ||
| And if these men are militaries and there are no women in their society, oh, you better believe they want to have sex. | ||
| Yeah, but they're not... It's not like these guys were like, urgh, I'm so angry, I wanna... It's more like these evil oppressors will know when we control them and they wanna subjugate the people that they view as oppressors. | ||
| Right, it's a display of brutality. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And then the psychotic urges of masculinity come out when they're in battle after the kill, the man wants to... Well, it's not that. | ||
| You're thinking of it... A lot of it is spitting in the face of Israel. | ||
| Taking the women is an insult to Israelis. | ||
| It was known throughout time, like when Alexander the Great's forces or like a military force would invade and take a city, the commander would have to tell the troops, do not pillage, do not rape. | ||
| And a shitty commander wouldn't be able to keep his troops under wraps and they'd just go destroy. | ||
| And so like a good commander would keep his men from doing it. | ||
| But it was just the proclivity for, you know, a worn out dude that just got done putting his life on the line, his adrenaline's all No. | ||
| He's got women all around him now, and he hasn't had sex in two years. | ||
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Why? | |
| Okay, do you think we should say put boots on the ground to liberate the Uighur Muslims in China? | ||
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No. | |
| Why? | ||
| Because China would launch nuclear weapons if we tried to do that. | ||
| Oh, okay, so it's only because the people in Palestine can't actually do anything else | ||
| in retaliation that we should actually try and stop them. | ||
| Well, no, I'm not saying that we should put boots on the ground or anything. | ||
| I think Israeli soldiers are qualified and capable of handling that situation right now. | ||
| I heard Hezbollah may be making moves in the north. | ||
| If there's an actual full-scale invasion into Israel and they call for help, we have to help. | ||
| I don't even want to. | ||
| But what does that mean? | ||
| If you're saying we shouldn't have boots on the ground, how do you want us to help? | ||
| I'm just really curious. | ||
| Because if neither side is willing to come to the table and negotiate peace, what is all the way? | ||
| Nuclear war? | ||
| So we shouldn't have boots on the ground, but you want to go to nuclear war? | ||
| Well, we're talking about life and death of the human race. | ||
| You have to put that on the table. | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| Nuclear war means death for all of us. | ||
| Yeah, my question is, why do you care about Israel to the point where you think we should intervene and provide aid, but no other countries? | ||
| Um, maybe because it's probably like our third strongest ally, maybe next to Germany. | ||
| And if they go down, I think that China, Russia, North Korea, and Iran will take over the world. | ||
| World War III? | ||
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Israel is capable, fully capable, they're an advanced, technologically advanced military. | |
| They are fully capable on their own of defeating Hamas. | ||
| So I think a danger here is that Israel, this goes into a broader war and Israel has in the back of their mind, well if we get into trouble the US will bail us out. | ||
| That's dangerous. | ||
| We don't want them thinking, well, if this does escalate, the U.S. | ||
| will bail us out. | ||
| Because then we're all of a sudden in a really dangerous situation. | ||
| Do you feel like Trump would have handled this differently from your time in his administration? | ||
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You know, I don't know how he would be handling it. | |
| I think I think that Trump would fully support Israel's right to self-defense and fighting against Hamas and defeating them. | ||
| But I think Trump is known for his restraint. | ||
| And there was a similar incident where Saudi Arabia did a or there was some kind of drone attack And they blamed Iran. | ||
| It was in Yemen. | ||
| They blamed Iran for a drone attack that was against Saudi Arabia's interests in Yemen. | ||
| And people were calling on Trump to attack Iran. | ||
| And Trump didn't go for it. | ||
| He said, no, absolutely not. | ||
| This isn't our conflict. | ||
| We're not getting involved in it. | ||
| Well, he specifically said that the amount of people who would die in the retaliation strike was not worth it. | ||
| It was not... What's the right word? | ||
| Commensurate? | ||
| Yeah, that's the right word. | ||
| Not worth it. | ||
| The opportunity cost was too great. | ||
| Yeah, you could say that too. | ||
| It wasn't... I can't think of the... Opportunity cost. | ||
| Commensurate? | ||
| Is that what you're thinking of? | ||
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Well, it was... Proportional? | |
| Proportional. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| It was proportional. | ||
| The drone attack, you know, killing hundreds of, you know, militants is way, way... The harsh reality of war sometimes is you want a non-proportional response in order to make it all stop before it escalates. | ||
| It's horrible to think this. | ||
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I've never lived like this. | |
| Yeah, that's the big stick ethos. | ||
| That was what a lot of Americans in World War II thought with the nuclear weapons. | ||
| Oh, I got stung by a wasp. | ||
| Let's go find the wasp nest and annihilate it. | ||
| Kind of thing. | ||
| Well, I mean, that's a little different. | ||
| Similar. | ||
| If people are getting stung by wasps, you probably want to get rid of the wasps in us. | ||
| You better. | ||
| You don't just take out the few wasps that stung you. | ||
| But we're not talking about... So that would be a proportional response. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| See, Ian, what we're trying to say is... I mean, you eradicate all of them if one of them stings you. | ||
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Right. | |
| Yeah, but what you're arguing is a wasp stung you, so you brought a flamethrower and you wanted all the other wasps... I'm not going to travel Europe to kill all the wasps. | ||
| You wanted the other wasps to watch it happen so that they would know not to sting you ever again. | ||
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That's what you're saying. | |
| I don't want them to suffer. | ||
| I just want to make it stop. | ||
| I'm not sure I can follow up. | ||
| I don't want to, like, burn them alive. | ||
| I just want the conflict to stop. | ||
| I don't want to, like, make them die in pain, but that doesn't mean that I don't want them... What the hell are we doing? | ||
| There's no solving this. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| It's war. | ||
| It's war. | ||
| And people have chosen a side in the war. | ||
| Have a nice day. | ||
| This goes back a hundred plus years or even longer. | ||
| Thousands. | ||
| Yeah, right. | ||
| Thousands of years. | ||
| And it's like, everyone's gonna be like, this land belongs to this, no, this land belongs to- I'm right, no, I'm right! | ||
| In the end, bro, I'm 37 years old. | ||
| This has been going on a lot longer than I've been alive. | ||
| My response is, whoa, why are they killing all the civilians? | ||
| And what do I get? | ||
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Tim, Israel is an apartheid state and these people are freedom fighters! | |
| And I'm like, bro, they're killing civilians. | ||
| Why are you supporting Israel? | ||
| Israel is stealing our money, America- I'm like, dude, I don't care about any of this. | ||
| I'm talking about these arguments. | ||
| What I'm telling you is the war is bad. | ||
| Civilians shouldn't be dying. | ||
| You can't come to me and be like, Israel should not be targeting, should not be taking action against the Hamas targets, the al-Qassam brigades. | ||
| And I'm like, but they're shooting at them. | ||
| What's the argument? | ||
| You walk outside and a guy's got a Ruger 10-22 and he's firing at you and he hits some of your kids and the only weapon, and so you pull out your SCAR-20S and then you're like, I'm going to return fire. | ||
| I'm like, whoa, but yours is way bigger than his. | ||
| It kind of feels like, Yeah, war is war, dude! | ||
| When the American colonists were colonizing North America and slaughtering the native population, it's similar to that, but we didn't have internet video back then. | ||
| We'd have the same conversation, like, well, you know, but what happened, the natives would come into town, guerrilla force, they'd tomahawk some dudes, grab some women, take them back to the tribe, and then the Americans would go with their rifles and slaughtered all of them. | ||
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Well, there's two things to that. | |
| A lot of the Plains Indians, that was the regular life for Plains Indians. | ||
| That was the understanding of Plains Indians attacking other Indians within the United States. | ||
| The understanding that that's what was going to happen to men. | ||
| Indigenous people? | ||
| Right, exactly. | ||
| So we're dealing from this company. | ||
| It doesn't know our language. | ||
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Indigenous people in this country, whatever you want to call them, that was the understanding among Plains Indians. | |
| That's how life was. | ||
| That was the understanding. | ||
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That's what they did to us. | |
| They didn't take it, and it wasn't special for them in any way. | ||
| This is different because as far as I understand, those regions in West Bank, Gaza, et cetera, were not really inhabited until Israel became a state and then there was reason to be able to support populations in those areas and then they immigrated into it. | ||
| That's what I understand about it. | ||
| I may be wrong, but that's what I understand. | ||
| So I don't think it's the same thing. | ||
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Indigenous people versus people that migrated there after there was a state established and allowed them to survive in those areas, I don't know if that's exactly the same. | |
| It's not comparable, yeah? | ||
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No, it's not comparable. | |
| I wouldn't say it is, but you know. | ||
| Like the Colony of Israel, like 1918, the British Mandate for Palestine. | ||
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Well, that was 1948. | |
| That was 1948. | ||
| Much later, much later than that. | ||
| Well, that's when Israel got formed. | ||
| But the British Mandate was in 1918. | ||
| You ever read I Am Legend, Ian? | ||
| No. | ||
| I've seen the movie. | ||
| The movie is nothing. | ||
| The movie does not relate to the story at all. | ||
| The movie should never have been made. | ||
| And it's awful. | ||
| The book is much better. | ||
| And fully admit, I did not read it. | ||
| I've only seen the select passages that convey the general concept of what the book is about. | ||
| And the book is about a guy who is, um, he's a vampire hunter, and he kills vampires. | ||
| Because vampires are bad! | ||
| And then, in the end, he finally realizes that because the world has fallen to vampires, and he is one of the last humans, he is the legend. | ||
| From the perspective of humans, there is a legend of vampires that, in the middle of the night, come and kill you while you sleep. | ||
| When the world became all vampires, there was a legend of a man who lurks during the day and kills you in your sleep. | ||
| That was his realization that they arrested him and were to try him for the crimes of murder. | ||
| And they were terrified of him. | ||
| He was a monster. | ||
| He was the monster. | ||
| In 2005, 6, 7, 8, I was like... | ||
| Screw Israel. | ||
| They've colonized. | ||
| This is unjust. | ||
| It should be dismantled. | ||
| I was in that state of mind. | ||
| And then I started to realize that life is about power, and who controls the power controls the narrative and your lifestyle. | ||
| So I'm not willing to give up this American republicanism for some anti-colonialism. | ||
| I'm just not, man. | ||
| I just don't know what the proposed solution is right now, when you have Israel, for all their faults, and then Palestinians don't want peace, they want from the river to the sea. | ||
| These are act- like, they'll lie to you. | ||
| The left lies to you. | ||
| The left lies to you all the time. | ||
| We know they lie, we know the far left lies. | ||
| They are evil people, they lie, lie, lie. | ||
| They're trying to sterilize children, they want you to abort your kids, they do a whole bunch of things, and then they go in politics, they lie. | ||
| There's a video where Jack Posobiec got punched in the face. | ||
| And the cops witnessed it. | ||
| And the far-left activists say to the cops, I didn't see anything happen. | ||
| They just lie with a smug look on their face. | ||
| You have videos of the people in New York amongst their peers cheering for the killing of civilians, calling them illegal colonizers. | ||
| We, as regular people, are like, okay, we can understand the nuances of military conflict, don't like these stories we're being told, but will not tolerate civilians at a music festival being just murdered and dragged to the streets. | ||
| Then they'll lie and say, oh, but our poor civilians will make propaganda videos. | ||
| What is... What does one do? | ||
| Right now. | ||
| Right now. | ||
| I don't know about anything else. | ||
| All I know is I'm sitting here right now looking at the conflict and I'm like, I've been to Israel. | ||
| There are people going to the store and buying falafel. | ||
| They're not fighting with each other. | ||
| Why should they be murdered by Hamas and al-Qassam brigades? | ||
| They shouldn't be. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Well, what happens when these terrorists come in and start killing civilians like they just did in the worst possible way we've seen ever? | ||
| Should Israel just be like, well, you know, it is what it is. | ||
| We're being killed. | ||
| No, they shouldn't. | ||
| The reality is we want peace. | ||
| We want a peace agreement. | ||
| Unfortunately, I think overwhelmingly it falls to the Palestinians and the ideologues, more so Hamas, but yes, in many ways, the Palestinians, they just want to purge Israel completely. | ||
| What do you do? | ||
| That's not a solution. | ||
| There's no compromise. | ||
| If they're saying, we don't care what you want to negotiate, we will kill everyone. | ||
| I'm like, okay, well, there's no negotiating with these people. | ||
| And we're not going to let you just go and kill a bunch of Jewish people in Israel. | ||
| Now, you wanna make an argument that Israel shouldn't be there or whatever. | ||
| It's like, okay, fine. | ||
| But, bro, the only thing they're offering is genocide. | ||
| There's no argument. | ||
| There's no compromise. | ||
| And Israel is there. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| We can't go back and change anything like that. | ||
| I mean, I really stand by that peace deals always means that someone is upset because they lost, right? | ||
| In this case, you're completely right. | ||
| There's not a clear compromise. | ||
| And so, as much as we'd like to see a ceasefire, as much as we wouldn't like to see people lost, and we wouldn't like to see civilians taken hostage, We can all agree these things are bad. | ||
| On the other hand, it's not like we can just be like, hey, guys, stop. | ||
| Stop fighting. | ||
| Just stop. | ||
| Like, that's obviously not a reasonable solution. | ||
| It's not logical in any way. | ||
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The United States can't solve this. | |
| Right. | ||
| You know, and I don't know why. | ||
| It's insane to me that people are so fervent about it because it's like, I got an idea. | ||
| Let's, uh, secure our borders, bring manufacturing back to this country, get rid of these garbage international agreements like TPP, and make America great again. | ||
| And then when people are like, did you hear about the conflict happening? | ||
| And, uh, no, I didn't, because I'm concerned about our borders, which are currently porous and have millions of people born there. | ||
| Yeah, this is an example of one of Jesus's parables, when he said, take the plank out of your own eye before you try and take a speck of dust out of your brother's eye or your friend or whatever. | ||
| Like, clean yourself up. | ||
| You gotta clean your room! | ||
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| Before you try and clean up the world. | ||
| George Peterson parable. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Here's the story from the Associated Press. | ||
| R.F.K. | ||
| Jr.' 's independent run for president draws GOP criticism and silence from National Democrats. | ||
| This I find fascinating. | ||
| Republicans attacked R.F.K. | ||
| Jr. | ||
| on Monday as the longtime environmental lawyer blah blah blah. | ||
| Now threatening to take votes from former President Donald Trump. | ||
| I believe this is propaganda and a lie. | ||
| I do too. | ||
| The Republican National Committee and Trump's campaign both took aim at Kennedy's liberal background, while National Democrats stayed silent, as Kennedy insisted in a speech in Philadelphia. | ||
| Quote, Voters should not be deceived by anyone who pretends to have conservative values, said Trump. | ||
| Spokesperson Stephen Chung in a statement, he labeled Kennedy's campaign nothing more than a vanity project for a liberal Kennedy looking to cash in on his family's name. | ||
| It's really funny because Democrats are hurt by this, not Donald Trump. | ||
| I don't know if y'all watched his speech where he talked about finally the United States can recognize Indigenous Peoples' Day and stand up, you know, blah blah blah, left woke talking point, and said he wants to have a new declaration of independence, independence from the corporations that are doing all these things, and I'm like, I don't see this guy pulling any Trump voters. | ||
| He might. | ||
| Uh, the crowd looked to be more liberal leaning and cheering for him saying Indigenous Peoples Day. | ||
| I think this narrative of criticism from the GOP is because they're trying to keep Democrats unified and they want RFK to be seen as Trump. | ||
| The way they stop RFK from pulling votes from Democrats is by convincing Democrats that RFK Jr. | ||
| is a Trump supporter or a Trump in some way. | ||
| Yeah, and he teed himself up to have this moment in his speech where he could have potentially really courted Trump voters and then he let it go. | ||
| I mean, he did say a lot of really interesting stuff along the way, and I thought it was perfectly fine. | ||
| He said at one point, you know, his big tenet was we need to Give up our addiction to picking sides. | ||
| And I thought that was a great, great sentiment, right? | ||
| So many people don't want to hear anything. | ||
| They know they're supposed to fall under a certain label or side of a certain party, so they just continue to agree with it no matter what. | ||
| He was saying, for example, over the past six months, I've really started to listen to different people, and I've gone to the border, and I've talked to border patrol agents and migrants and people in the community, and I've really started to rethink my position on this. | ||
| And then he moved on. | ||
| He didn't say, so I would commit to building the wall, so I would commit to ending birthright citizenship. | ||
| He didn't take any strong Republican talking points. | ||
| He just continued to say, I'm flirting with the idea of perhaps being more serious about border control. | ||
| If he really wanted to court Trump voters, he would have taken a strong stance on the border during the speech. | ||
| You know, I think that there are a lot of Democrats who are unhappy with Biden. | ||
| He does not poll well. | ||
| What is it, 60% think he's too old? | ||
| And so even though... | ||
| I think it's like 68. | ||
| It's some ridiculous number. | ||
| So ultimately, RFK is just needing to be different than Biden, and he is going to do that. | ||
| Obviously, I mean, other than our scenario where he, you know, collapses on stage and Newsom takes over, we know the DNC would never let RFK be the frontrunner, and so the Independent is the best way he can court voters at all, like Ross Perot. | ||
| What do you think about him, James? | ||
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I like RFK. | |
| I think he's run a great campaign, especially by saying he's going to focus on the deep state. | ||
| His whole campaign has been about, the deep state is unaccountable to the American people, and my number one priority is going to be fixing these government agencies, like HHS that destroyed the country in 2020. | ||
| So I think his campaign has been great. | ||
| He may be playing to get more Democrat votes now, but I do think the effect would be to take more Republicans, or at least right-leaning independents. | ||
| Why would they vote for... Why would a right-leaning independent vote for Kennedy? | ||
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Because they see all his appearances on all these shows, which are overwhelmingly right-leaning, and he's talking to... he's speaking to... I think he's speaking to right-leaning voters. | |
| He's anti-vax. | ||
| His whole thing is opposing the COVID tyranny, opposing the deep state, and the left-wing media hasn't given him any oxygen, whereas the right-wing media has been giving him all his oxygen. | ||
| But there are many people on the left who hated the lockdowns as well. | ||
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I don't think as many. | |
| Sure, but like, I don't see that as being strong enough. | ||
| If you come out in your announcement speech celebrating Indigenous People's Day, I'm not sure the anti-woke post-liberals are gonna be like, that's my guy! | ||
| I saw that and I cringed. | ||
| Are you just saying he's more likely to capture, like, the right-leaning centrists because that's the media he's in? | ||
| So that's who's getting the eyeballs? | ||
| That's, like, those are the people that happen to be seeing him? | ||
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Exactly. | |
| I think that's what's fueling his campaign, or the right-leaning centrists. | ||
| Kind of the Joe Rogan listener crowd is what's fueling RFK's campaign. | ||
| And the Republican nominee, if Trump wants to win in 2024, the key to victory is to get that crowd. | ||
| See, I can see where you're coming from, but he has, RFK has steadily gained among Democrats. | ||
| I mean, he came out at like, what, 5%? | ||
| He's almost up to 20% favorability among Democrats now. | ||
| So as much as maybe there are a couple people who are excited about him, who are sort of moderate to, you know, almost independent, Republicans will say, I think there are more people who are discontented in his base that he will pull away. | ||
| The numbers aren't proportional. | ||
| I think it will hurt Democrats more than Republicans. | ||
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I hope you guys are right. | |
| It'll be interesting to see what voters RFK targets now, and if he shifts the style of his campaign like you just said, Tim, where maybe this is more a leftward shift. | ||
| But that's always been his campaign. | ||
| Like, it's been conservatives that have been hooting and hollering because they like what he said about COVID, but they're ignoring everything else that he said. | ||
| I mean, and a lot of libertarians have come out and been like, the dude is anti-gun. | ||
| He's like a liberal who just, his only position that aligns with conservatives is that he didn't like the COVID lockdown. | ||
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But he's also been very critical of woke culture, cancel culture, and the far left. | |
| And I think the Republicans like him for that reason, too. | ||
| He's kind of this symbol of, you know, I'm a non-woke liberal. | ||
| And Republicans love to jump on that. | ||
| I just think that there are lots of moderates who lean left socially that also feel that way. | ||
| I think we don't give enough credit to the fact that the DNC and the Biden administration have to court the middle ground when they have positioned themselves more— Robert F. Kennedy Jr. | ||
| More and more towards the left. | ||
| I think that he just needs to be not establishment to abide in DNC. | ||
| I think that the Republicans have enough on the field where it's unlikely that they will see tons of Republicans flocking to RFK because, you know, he ultimately is an environmentalist lawyer. | ||
| I mean, he's not someone that is going to capture people on their base. | ||
| I think what I find most interesting about his shift towards being an independent candidate is what he said, which was that, you know, it is painful for me to leave the party that my family's political legacy comes from. | ||
| But I think it's so often that we see the media, obviously for, in my opinion, biased reasons, focusing on fractures within the Republican Party that they gloss over the splintering that is going on among Democrats. | ||
| And that's real. | ||
| It's documented even if the mainstream media, the AP News, doesn't want to talk about it. | ||
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And Cornel West, who is more left-wing, is now also going to run as independent. | |
| So that's definitely taking votes away from the Democrats. | ||
| According to Ipsos, in a three-way race with RFK Jr. | ||
| as an independent, you have Biden getting 31, Trump getting 33, and RFK Jr. | ||
| getting 14. | ||
| Without RFK Jr., it's a statistical tie between Biden and Trump. | ||
| So Ipsos data from October 3rd to the 4th shows that RFK Jr. | ||
| hurts the Democrats. | ||
| So, and this is what I thought. | ||
| If you take a look at the graph, you can actually see that there is only a tiny red sliver that jumps to RFK, but a larger portion of the Democrats. | ||
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Why? | |
| Trump supporters will crawl over broken glass to vote for him. | ||
| Democrat voters think Joe Biden's too old and don't like him. | ||
| They just don't like Trump. | ||
| And I mean, I was looking at a poll that came out of New Hampshire a couple weeks ago. | ||
| You know, they'll say, who are you planning on voting for? | ||
| And they'll say, who's your second choice candidate? | ||
| And it's not like Republicans are saying, well, if it's if it's not my number one choice, you know, DeSantis, Trump, whoever it is, I'm going to switch to RFK. | ||
| They're going to pick another Republican. | ||
| They're more likely to, whereas Democrats are not particularly happy with Biden already. | ||
| And so if they're presented an alternative, it's more likely that they'll pick it. | ||
| Yeah, like Vivek. | ||
| I think he's a much more favorable candidate to Republican mindset than... To Republicans, but not to Democrats, whereas RFK is, you know, at least baseline more Republican, especially to that moderate class that I think the DNC really overlooks. | ||
| I mean, they trample on them all the time. | ||
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That's a good point. | |
| I'm excited about it, guys. | ||
| I love when we have a third party candidate. | ||
| I mean, I will say I listened to this whole speech because that's what I do for my job, and I like that he talked about – he had this line saying, you know, there have been independent candidates in the past, but this time it's going to be different because you're going to win. | ||
| And I don't think that's necessarily true, but I do think that it's nice to see someone who is representing people who are frustrated with the party system. | ||
| Teddy Roosevelt won third party. | ||
| Take a look at this. | ||
| Kennedy family members call RFK Jr.'s independent bid dangerous to our country. | ||
| To be fair, they were doing that before. | ||
| They really don't like him. | ||
| Christmas and Thanksgiving are going to be super awkward for the Kennedy family this | ||
| year. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| They're going to need to strip boats away from them. | ||
| Can you imagine, like, having Thanksgiving with your family and you're a former governor, | ||
| your brother's a senator, your other brother's running for president, and you're just like, | ||
| you know, you shouldn't be running for president. | ||
| It's like, well, I'm gonna... Guys, no politics at the table. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, he was saying his dad would have them all talk politics, Bobby. | ||
| Like, I think his grandpa would have his dad and his uncle John and... | ||
| His speech, he's name-dropping everybody because they really did have such a dynasty in his life. | ||
| I mean, it's not a joke. | ||
| I just can't imagine, you know, working out like, hey, you're not invited to Thanksgiving this year because you're running for president as a third-party candidate. | ||
| They're like, cool, I didn't want to go anyways. | ||
| Yeah, he's actually said his family disagrees with him politically, but they get along. | ||
| And he has a bunch of pretty mainstream, I mean, not that Hollywood is where you should put all your interests, but he has a lot of celebrity followers, isn't it? | ||
| Like Woody Harrelson, he had a concert with, I can't remember his name off the top of my head, but you know, RFK has appeal in a way that Biden does not in a lot of aspects of culture. | ||
| His wife is super famous actor, Cheryl Hines from Curb Your Enthusiasm. | ||
| I'm just gonna say it, her outfit today was great. | ||
| I would be happy to have her come on as a first lady. | ||
| Very stylish. | ||
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What was her outfit? | |
| She wore this like white double-breasted button-down suit and it just, she looked classy. | ||
| I can't help it. | ||
| I don't really want her husband to be president, but I'm happy that he's in the race. | ||
| We're gonna get some great moments from her. | ||
| I've always liked this girl. | ||
| She's a great actor, man. | ||
| She anchored that show, Curb Your Enthusiasm. | ||
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Who? | |
| Cheryl, his wife. | ||
| Is this it? | ||
| Yeah, but that's not today's picture. | ||
| I'll find it. | ||
| Oh, right. | ||
| Yeah, I'm trying to find it. | ||
| You can just look up Cheryl. | ||
| Oh, her dress. | ||
| Apparently, it's not the thing the mainstream media wants to report on. | ||
| It's so rude of them. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| You know, I'm over here trying to have a serious news program and let people know the clothing. | ||
| I slowly convert IRL to a fashion review program. | ||
| Thank you so much, everybody. | ||
| What do you think? | ||
| Cheryl looks like, it seems like she has no political acumen. | ||
| I can't tell for sure, but she seems like she's like a normie actor. | ||
| Like, not normie, but she's like outside the whole thing. | ||
| Do you think that's good? | ||
| Was it this? | ||
| Yes. | ||
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Oh, okay. | |
| I mean, that's kind of basic. | ||
| It's basic, but it's white, it's pretty, it's fitted well, she doesn't look overdone, she doesn't like to strain too hard. | ||
| I don't get what the argument is as to why Trump voters would choose Kennedy, I just don't get it. | ||
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Especially because we've got Melania. | |
| I'm in a position where it's like, I've been saying I'm 51% for Trump, he's the best option that we have, I hope he fires people. | ||
| I think his foreign policy was the best we've seen of my lifetime. | ||
| But I think that there are character defects of the guy, and it's like, obviously, there could be better. | ||
| When I say 51, I'm basically saying, as far as presidents go, being a net positive is a really powerful thing for me to say. | ||
| But RFK Jr., it's like, oh, he's cool. | ||
| I'm glad he's speaking up against the COVID lockdown stuff. | ||
| I would never vote for that guy. | ||
| I was going to ask you, James, how much of the president's value and effectivity is around that one guy and how much of it is around the people he surrounds himself with? | ||
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Well, I think it's been a trend in American politics since FDR of the presidency becoming more and more ceremonial over time, to the point today where today's president has a 100th the power that FDR did. | |
| Curtis Yarman has talked about that a lot. | ||
| Um, the deep state has become a massive problem, and the people truly pulling the levers of power are kind of this expert class at the top of the bureaucracy that, of course, leans left and is permanent. | ||
| You know, they have civil service protections, and it makes it hard for a president to control the bureaucracy and control the policy. | ||
| And it's not just for Republicans. | ||
| It's for Democrats, too, although the bureaucracy just tends to agree with them more. | ||
| It's kind of just a coincidence. | ||
| Is that why you got involved with your project with Heritage? | ||
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Yeah, that's the idea behind Project 2025 at Heritage, actually, which is basically an effort to get the personnel right this next administration, and also an effort to make sure that the bureaucrats that have the true levers of power in our bureaucracy are able to be held accountable. | |
| That doesn't mean we're going to fire all of them, but if somebody is obstructing policy, it's making sure that person can be fired. | ||
| Because, you know, all these candidates love to talk about what they're going to do, but if you don't first get the bureaucracy under control, you can't do anything else. | ||
| I imagine the president's pretty neutered when it comes to that, but with a good staff, what would be an example? | ||
| What are the top three or five roles that the president would need to surround him or herself with? | ||
| What are the top five powerful roles that they would pick? | ||
| I know chief of staff would be one of them. | ||
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Chief of Staff is extremely important. | |
| I think, I don't think it's necessarily the roles, I think it's the actions the President would need to take. | ||
| There is a massive barrier between the President and his own Cabinet Secretaries. | ||
| So, there's a White House bureaucracy within the White House itself, and they kind of serve as this management barrier where they tell the President's Cabinet Secretaries what to do instead of the President directly. | ||
| And this management bureaucracy was Created under FDR and it's only grown bigger and bigger. | ||
| So I think the next president needs to do things like kick the National Security Council permanent bureaucrat staff out of the White House on day one. | ||
| Do things like that. | ||
| You know, make sure that your cabinet secretaries are being told by you solely what to do. | ||
| There's too many middlemen that the president has. | ||
| So if you cut down on these layers of bureaucracy and tell your decision makers exactly what to do, that's kind of the way of managing it. | ||
| And the other thing is, the president needs to delegate less and follow up more. | ||
| That's the key to all of this, because these bureaucrats thrive in the shadows. | ||
| They don't want to be confronted. | ||
| If the president and his cabinet secretaries dig into these agencies, they are going to figure out how things are really run and they're going to get a better handle on this stuff. | ||
| Why did FDR create this managerial class? | ||
| Why did he put people in the middle? | ||
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So FDR was spinning up all these new agencies in the 30s during the New Deal and he wanted to put in place a system that would last after he left. | |
| So he did this thing where he got all these progressive academics to come up with a plan for how can I better make this administrative state work. | ||
| And these progressive academics based their plan on the monarchies in Europe, which had massive bureaucracies where the United States didn't. | ||
| And FDR took their plan and he implemented it. | ||
| And so it's this idea of a permanent expert class, an expert class that keeps the policies going no matter who the president is. | ||
| It's the antithesis of democracy. | ||
| Was it because he was getting bribed by like special interests and it was like favors or was it because he couldn't run the government properly to win the world war that he needed a fight? | ||
| What was his motivation like? | ||
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I think it's ideological more than anything else. | |
| It's just always been this left-wing idea that we need government by an expert class. | ||
| So what are you guys specifically doing to combat this issue? | ||
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So there's a lot of things the president can do, but basically all the tools the president has are in the Civil Service Reform Act of 1978, which actually was passed by Congress to help the president better control the deep state, because it had become such a problem. | |
| And it created an agency called the Office of Personnel Management, and they're supposed to manage the bureaucrats. | ||
| But what's happened over time is that agency that was created got captured by the bureaucrats themselves. | ||
| So it's totally captured. | ||
| So you have to take back that agency and then use the legal authorities that you have, which there are many. | ||
| You know, people know about the Schedule F executive order. | ||
| They're familiar with that. | ||
| That's one of like 10 things the president can start to do to hold the bureaucracy accountable. | ||
| So you think going in and firing everyone maybe is not the right move, but to go in and be very selective about who and what to remove? | ||
| Or do you think more of just a broad sweeping 75% reduction of workforce among the managerial class? | ||
| What do you think is more effective? | ||
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I think you need to do parts of both. | |
| So you need to do reductions in force where you get rid of these non-essential workers, the non-essential bureaucracy. | ||
| I like to say there's a deep state at the top, that's the left-wing expert class, but then there's like the DMV state below them. | ||
| And these are like the millions of unionized civil service protected employees. | ||
| It's 2.25 million employees and the president can only hire and fire at will 4,000 of them. | ||
| So 99.9% of his own employees he can't fire. | ||
| So you have to... | ||
| You know, get rid of the non-essential ones, and you can use reduction force exercises, which is just a fancy term for mass government layoffs, to do that. | ||
| But then at the top, it's more, you know, picking apart certain places where the bureaucracy has a hold, like the State Department. | ||
| You need to go in and tear that place apart. | ||
| If people are resisting, you need to fire them. | ||
| But there's a lot of nuances to it. | ||
| How would you implement reduction force exercises? | ||
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You would look at the parts of the federal government that are truly non-essential. | |
| And it's funny because we already have a list of these positions. | ||
| When the government shuts down, all the non-essential workers go home. | ||
| We have this list that we are like, you're not even that important, leave. | ||
| Exactly, exactly. | ||
| And so you're not going to fire all those people, but what does it being non-essential mean? | ||
| It means they're non-essential in some way. | ||
| So you start from there and look at that. | ||
| Would it be an executive order that would be like... | ||
| This would put it into action or something? | ||
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This agency, Office of Personnel Management, would do it. | |
| So, for example, on day one you could say, we're doing a reduction in force to get rid of all the diversity, equity, and inclusion offices across the federal government and let's just start there. | ||
| I wish. | ||
| Let's just start there. | ||
| I wish, dude. | ||
| That's a good place to start. | ||
| That's how you got your job, Serge, right? | ||
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Yeah, right. | |
| That's how I got my job. | ||
| And that's because you can't fire them individually. | ||
| You've got to reduce the force somehow. | ||
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Vivek had a plan. | |
| Exactly. | ||
| I think we should just put them all in the Aleutians. | ||
| Permanent vacation. | ||
| Enjoy yourself. | ||
| Get a nice house. | ||
| One thing we can do is use as an opportunity to develop areas that need development. | ||
| So by putting them in Alaska, we then have to fund the creation of cities and towns Most people aren't going to want to be there. | ||
| And so then what we'll do is we'll just, you know, look for oil and things like that in our own land. | ||
| I think Stalin did that with Siberia. | ||
| Although I don't think the oil, I don't know if they got treated very well. | ||
| You pick a place that needs development, you know? | ||
| And start putting the offices there. | ||
| What is your concern with mass layoffs? | ||
| Like, I know that in Iraq, when we invaded, we disbanded the Ba'ath Party and said, you can never serve in government again. | ||
| And they all formed ISIS, basically. | ||
| They formed terrorist cells, because they're like, what else can we do? | ||
| We have connections in the military. | ||
| They were just bored. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So I have this vision of, like, American bureaucrats who get laid off being like, well, now we're going to organize into ISIS. | ||
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I know. | |
| I'm not even joking, because they've got friends in the military. | ||
| It's their own domestic terrorism. | ||
| It's just laid off. | ||
| Yeah, they joined Antifa. | ||
| Trump wins, they get fired, now they're broken, they're angry, and then they go become anti-Semites. | ||
| Anti-Semitism spikes when we lay them off. | ||
| Maybe we shouldn't lay them off. | ||
| That's a very compelling argument. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| Relocate them first to the Aleutians, as close to Japan as possible. | ||
| Let me pull this up. | ||
| Do you think there's a risk that they could form some sort of radical NGO or something? | ||
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No. | |
| The Aleutians are a Liberia for bureaucrats. | ||
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I think we do need mass layoffs, for the record. | |
| I think we do need mass layoffs. | ||
| At two station, right here, look at this. | ||
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Yeah, it's out there. | |
| It's out there. | ||
| That's really close. | ||
| Okay, it's closer to Russia. | ||
| So when you want to go work for the government, you got to think carefully, like you want an essential job because you are at risk of being shipped up with the illusion. | ||
| This little thing right here, this is America. | ||
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Yeah, it is. | |
| This is the United States. | ||
| Be essential or go away. | ||
| That's the United States right there. | ||
| And we can take all the bureaucrats and just station them right there and we build. | ||
| It's worth it. | ||
| An ayahuasca ceremony, set it up. | ||
| I don't know about all that, I'm just saying. | ||
| Just give talks. | ||
| Just, you know, then we'll have a base out there and, you know, in the Bering Sea. | ||
| Is that a military base? | ||
| I gotta be completely honest though, it's 50 degrees there right now at 4.22 p.m. | ||
| and if I was working in a government office in D.C. | ||
| and they're like, we're sending you to Attu Station in the Aleutians, I'd be like, that's awesome. | ||
| I'd be so excited for that. | ||
| It's not forever, but wouldn't it be cool to be out there in the middle of nowhere for a little bit? | ||
| Kind of, but if China does try and take Taiwan, Taiwan's not the only island they would go for. | ||
| Oh, bro, they're not that close to Taiwan. | ||
| They're safe. | ||
| They don't have to worry about it. | ||
| Look how far away that is. | ||
| That's 3,000 miles away. | ||
| People talk about concern of China invading Taiwan. | ||
| It wouldn't just be Taiwan. | ||
| That's not the only island they would attack. | ||
| It would be a lot of islands at once. | ||
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No internet, too. | |
| No internet. | ||
| The bureaucrats will be able to organize and defend themselves. | ||
| They're going to be super powerful. | ||
| We send them all to Attu Station. | ||
| There's no internet. | ||
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Yes. | |
| All snail mail. | ||
| And the plane comes once every other week. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's tough. | ||
| Sounds fun. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's like one of those jobs. | ||
| You ever see those things around the internet where they're like, you can get paid a million dollars a year to live on this remote island and maintain its lighthouse. | ||
| You'll see these things on occasion. | ||
| People want those jobs! | ||
| Especially if you work, and this is not to mean to any of our bureaucrats who are listening and who support the show, you guys are great, but if you work in like a boring office for the government and you are constantly being reminded every couple years that you're non-essential when the government sets down, that's gotta hurt your self-esteem, right? | ||
| You would take this cool island, maintain whatever, hang out with the other guys. | ||
| Someone in the chat there says they left in 2011, it's no longer been inhabited since then. | ||
| Well, we gotta fix that! | ||
| We gotta fix that, exactly. | ||
| Make Attitude Station great again. | ||
| But look, look at all these islands. | ||
| Look at this, man. | ||
| You got on Alaska Island, this is where they do that crab show or whatever it's called. | ||
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Deadliest Catch? | |
| Deadliest Catch, that's right. | ||
| Is that what it is? | ||
| I would much rather have crab fish than the New Democrats. | ||
| Look how cool that is, dude. | ||
| Look how cool, it's amazing. | ||
| That'd be a cool posting. | ||
| I gotta be honest, if I- right? | ||
| You know? | ||
| I'm really sold on this idea. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| There's a Safeway. | ||
| Everything's gonna cost like $40, but it'll be alright. | ||
| I mean, here's the reality. | ||
| People would love to, like, get a trip to go somewhere like that, some exotic location. | ||
| I think Charlie Kirk, he was pushing to decentralize the, uh, just the RNC, the Republican And so decentralizing the government might also be effective, so they're not all sitting there on K Street, able to walk from one guy's office to another. | ||
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Well, it's funny, I actually went on Charlie Kirk's show to tell him why that was a bad idea. | |
| Oh, tell me why. | ||
| It kind of works, but it doesn't work. | ||
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In South Africa, we have three different states, but... The problem is that the president doesn't control the government, and moving the agencies away is kind of what the bureaucrats want. | |
| They want to be away from his supervision. | ||
| It gives them more autonomy. | ||
| These employees, they could be going to Amelia's right now. | ||
| Don't they want to support local businesses on these islands? | ||
| Are you going to build this into your plan that this is part of managing? | ||
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It's going to be taken into consideration here. | |
| Seriously. | ||
| I'm not joking. | ||
| They should totally do this because you then get The, uh, you get development. | ||
| Why are we wasting money on these departments, the DOE and all this stuff? | ||
| No, no, no, Department of Education, I should say. | ||
| Let's just, that funding, instead of just pulling the band-aid off and getting this big congressional file bag, okay, well, we agree we'll keep funding it, but it's got to be on Alaska now. | ||
| And then what happens, you start developing this area, spreading people out, it expands American interest. | ||
| It's just really great for us all around. | ||
| Well, wasn't this this thing with the Department of Interior? | ||
| You know, it got moved. | ||
| Ted Kord's were going to be in Colorado. | ||
| And then Joe Biden was like, no, we're going to bring it back to D.C. | ||
| Like, they just don't want to hang out in D.C. | ||
| and work jobs that are pretend. | ||
| Decentralized D.C. | ||
| They should go. | ||
| And let's send them to this fun island. | ||
| Amelia's going to have some customers. | ||
| I got to be honest. | ||
| I bet you if they said like 100 postings on Alaska, it would be filled instantly. | ||
| Well, that's what James is saying is they want to be away. | ||
| They want less oversight. | ||
| So when they're in D.C., at least the president's able to have oversight over them. | ||
| And if they're off, But I think this is sort of extreme, right? | ||
| Like, I think only people who must really love their job or want to be on this island are gonna take a posting somewhere that remote. | ||
| Not to be mean to Amelia's Restaurant, which I've heard is great based on Google reviews. | ||
| I looked into going here, apparently it's like really hard. | ||
| To get in? | ||
| Well, something about like the flights are rare. | ||
| Yeah, because, I mean, this is true. | ||
| I've mentioned this before, but my family's from Newfoundland and like... | ||
| Places where there are established populations but people just don't come and go, you can't always get the ferry. | ||
| It's not a drop of a hat, right? | ||
| There has to be traffic there. | ||
| And that's Newfoundland, Canada, which is right above Maine, which is not as remote as this island. | ||
| Just, it would be really cool to go eat at Amelia's. | ||
| Check that out. | ||
| Yeah, put it on the bucket list. | ||
| They have a Mexican restaurant right there. | ||
| This is great! | ||
| Culture! | ||
| Where's the Mexican restaurant? | ||
| That's Amelia's. | ||
| It says Mexican restaurant underneath. | ||
| Does it really? | ||
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Right there. | |
| Oh, it does! | ||
| Yeah, it's a Mexican restaurant, yeah. | ||
| Oh, I saw the steak and I said, that looks great. | ||
| Wow, Mexican food in Unalaska. | ||
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Yeah, I'm there. | |
| That sounds awesome. | ||
| Did you call it Unalaska? | ||
| It's called an island. | ||
| The name of the island is Unalaska. | ||
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Unalaska. | |
| That's the name of the town. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| Right there. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Unalaska. | ||
| Well, there's church there, what is this, Department of Parks? | ||
| Oh yeah, Parks and Rec is there, wow. | ||
| And it's 50 degrees there right now. | ||
| That's not that bad for where it is. | ||
| I really hope we have a listener from Unalaska who's like, do not send me all these Democrats! | ||
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We already do! | |
| Send the Democrats. | ||
| Look at this, they got a gun club! | ||
| That's what I'm talking about, man. | ||
| I would think that there is value to reducing the bureaucracy because the bureaucracy would be more willing to work with, like, economic forum, like, technocratic establishment. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, definitely. | ||
| Okay, how about this one? | ||
| Akutan. | ||
| It's basically just a seafood corporation and a post office. | ||
| They got a playground there and a public library, though. | ||
| A library? | ||
| I think that's a great idea. | ||
| Yo, look at this. | ||
| Roadhouse. | ||
| No delivery, though. | ||
| Oh, that sucks. | ||
| That's like just anywhere in rural America, though. | ||
| I will level with you. | ||
| Yeah, no Uber Eats? | ||
| Nah. | ||
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No Uber Eats? | |
| No DoorDash? | ||
| Nah, dude. | ||
| I'm just saying, send them all off to the far reaches of the earth where they can never contact us again. | ||
| If you want to take a bureaucrat job, you should have to work for it, right? | ||
| The job itself is kind of cushy. | ||
| At least help this underpopulated island while you're at it. | ||
| I think part of what we're going to come up against with mass layoffs is a lot of these people are really good people that work in a position that should not be there. | ||
| And it's really impersonal that they're going to lose their job. | ||
| But maybe that's good! | ||
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But they can be offered early retirement and buyouts. | |
| You can buy them out. | ||
| You can pay them to leave. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Also, there are all kinds of jobs out there, right? | ||
| Like, the government jobs are attractive, I get that, but there are other industries. | ||
| If people need jobs, then they were willing to work, which means that we can have more private sector growth. | ||
| I don't understand why we would be like, but they work for the government, so they should get to keep their government job. | ||
| No, we should have other jobs in other sectors. | ||
| That would be better. | ||
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We should cover their salary for a whole year and say, hey, you know, your dream of being a painter? | |
| Go do that. | ||
| On Alaska. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Eat at Amelia's while you're there. | ||
| Even better. | ||
| Even better. | ||
| I would be open to that. | ||
| Would that bankrupt the country if we paid their salary for a year? | ||
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I don't know. | |
| I don't think it would be that expensive, actually. | ||
| No, it would not. | ||
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The fact that it'd be less expensive to cover their salaries for a year than to keep them all to- The Ukraine aid could pay for that 20 times over. | |
| Yeah, a couple times. | ||
| Yeah, dude. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| That's good. | ||
| There's also, uh, Utqiagvik? | ||
| Did I say it? | ||
| Utqiagvik. | ||
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I believe you. | |
| I think that's how you say it. | ||
| It used to be called Barrow, but then they renamed it to the indigenous name or whatever. | ||
| Oh, I see. | ||
| It's the northernmost city. | ||
| Yeah, Barrow. | ||
| Everybody, you gotta go there! | ||
| I had a friend who worked in Alaska doing, uh, some show. | ||
| I forgot what reality show it was. | ||
| But there was a point in the winter- Real life size of Alaska? | ||
| No. | ||
| It was like Ice Road Truck or something. | ||
| but there's a point where the snow shuts down the roads and you're there for the winter. | ||
| Nothing in and nothing out. | ||
| And the internet's all dial up. | ||
| That's wild. Phone lines. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They got Starlink now? | ||
| I think, yeah, they might. | ||
| They probably will. | ||
| Yeah, and it's become affordable. | ||
| But this was only a few years ago. | ||
| It was like, they were still going to Blockbuster. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And Redbox was huge. | ||
| It's like, you got to go to Redbox and get like 10 movies. | ||
| Well, West Virginia was one of the places I finally saw video stores again. | ||
| And it was because there's not great internet connection everywhere. | ||
| And you got people who will, you know, come into town for the week or every two weeks to get groceries and stuff and rent their movies and then go back on the mountain where there's no internet service. | ||
| They need their DVD player and then come back. | ||
| And like, I can only imagine that's tenfold in certain parts of Alaska. | ||
| You know, Elon's taken away all the mystery. | ||
| I gotta say, you know, life was so much more fun. | ||
| You guys remember not knowing? | ||
| Yeah, I do. | ||
| I thought about that today. | ||
| You less so? | ||
| Me, every day. | ||
| Don't worry about it. | ||
| No, I mean like when I was a kid, there was a period where it's like, I call my friend and he doesn't answer. | ||
| So I go to his house, knock on the door, he doesn't answer. | ||
| I'm like, oh, that's it. | ||
| Yeah, that's it. | ||
| And then you just leave. | ||
| And then you go do something else and you have no idea what happened. | ||
| This is one of the problems I talk about with kids today. | ||
| And I think, you know, I feel like I transitioned out of this period because the internet became so dominant while I was in high school or, you know, social media and stuff. | ||
| Kids today like if there's if there's fighting at school if there's like bullying or whatever else like it just follows you online after school whereas you don't go home and there were drama in the 90s you just had to call your friends on the landline whereas now it's it's all over snapchat it's all over Instagram you know they're sort of plugged into these scenarios which at times can be really negative constantly. | ||
| Maybe it's nice and that's why people like living in rural areas where you can say I'm just going to back away now and I don't have internet so you can't contact me That's actually the indoctrination aspect is like a big part of why I would not want to public school my kids, but it's that it's that Wait, what were you just saying? | ||
| The kids that have access to things online all the time and so therefore, you know Inter-friend group drama or whatever I couldn't do it. | ||
| I couldn't put my kid through that like I had to deal with it in school And then I go home and cry and then that would be it but I didn't have to it didn't taint my life I mean, I think that's all me around your kids off social media, which is really challenging because there's that idea that they want it I mean, it's it's it's a I got an idea. | ||
| Are they gonna go to Alaska? | ||
| Yes, if your kids being bullied you can make it all go away by sending them to unalaska You send your kid you move your family or do you send the bully? | ||
| I feel like going on a trip where there would be awesome Wouldn't you guys want to vacation on an island? | ||
| I don't want you to go there forever. | ||
| You can go there for a little bit. | ||
| Yeah, it's a posting. | ||
| It would be really soothing. | ||
| I know. | ||
| I don't want to be on a Pacific island when we're wondering if China's going to invade Taiwan. | ||
| Not right now. | ||
| Okay, well, you know. | ||
| Just bureaucrats and bullies on Alaska. | ||
| I was been thinking lately, I don't want to be, I want to go to Israel, but it's like the last year I've been thinking, I do not want to go there right now. | ||
| And I guess this is why. | ||
| All right, how about this one? | ||
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Alfred Farr. | |
| I was looking, I think we're going to pull up like, was it Ascension or whatever? | ||
| The island in the middle of nowhere? | ||
| I mean, this is an island in the middle of nowhere. | ||
| Oh, the island that's further from all of our islands. | ||
| Hey, look at this one. | ||
| French Southern Antarctic lands. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| You just come on down, speak French. | ||
| For what reason? | ||
| Look at all that light blue. | ||
| That was all above the water before the flood. | ||
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Before the flood, huh? | |
| Look it, look it. | ||
| Even Google Maps has the ice wall, see? | ||
| Do you guys ever look at the expanding earth theory? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The earth was small and then it slowly twisted open. | ||
| You can see how South America like fits perfectly into, uh, into, uh, Africa there. | ||
| Just pulled open. | ||
| Yeah, Pangaea and all that. | ||
| That was the idea, was that it was a piece of land on a big floating ball of water, but the other theory is that it was all rock, and it twisted open, and the hydrogen shot out of the cracks and mixed with the oxygen to form ocean water. | ||
| How deliciously absurd. | ||
| We're gonna go to Super Chats, everybody. | ||
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| Because we're going to have that members-only uncensored show coming up in about 25 minutes, where you as members can call in and submit questions to us! | ||
| Actually talk on the show. | ||
| And you'll have to join the Discord server, where our TimCast members are doing awesome stuff, running their own pre-shows and after-shows, making music and other cool things, so definitely check that out. | ||
| But for now, we will read your Super Chats, for which there are many. | ||
| Wonder who got first today. | ||
| Waffle Sensei! | ||
| Hey, shout out Waffles! | ||
| He says, as far as intervention goes, I will say that if American citizens are being held hostage, then we have a duty to destroy the individuals responsible. | ||
| That's a tough question. | ||
| When Biden comes out and says that American citizens are possibly among the hostages, I'm kind of like, I don't believe you. | ||
| You're a liar. | ||
| Yeah, you can't trust Joe Biden. | ||
| I mean, and also there are Americans who are wrongfully detained in Russia, right? | ||
| We've got Americans all over the place that we need to help. | ||
| It's not to downplay the suffering that they might be going through, but we gotta think this one out. | ||
| It certainly speaks to the danger of not trusting your government, because when the shit hits the fan for real, and you don't trust them, that's a big problem. | ||
| What's next? | ||
| Joseph says, no intervention equals I'm okay with suffering, lol. | ||
| I mean, like, the problem with intervention is we can't intervene everywhere. | ||
| So then it's just, someone is like, I watched the news today, and this country was bad, so we must intervene, and it's like, did you watch the news yesterday? | ||
| Other country was bad. | ||
| Which one do you want to intervene in? | ||
| We can't do all of them. | ||
| Current thing thing. | ||
| Could you imagine, like, I don't know, I just think about things domestically, like... | ||
| You hear fighting down the street from your neighbor's house and you're like, I'm gonna have to intervene. | ||
| And so you and your buddies go down to that house and kick the door in and go in and say, everybody on the ground! | ||
| No, you call the police, I guess. | ||
| There's a force that can deal with that. | ||
| I don't know if there's no international force or whatever, but imagine that there's a house down the street from you and the roommates are having a dispute over who gets to use the game room at what time and they're fighting. | ||
| You're just gonna be like, bro, I have nothing to do with this. | ||
| Also, in a different house, someone else is yelling, and you're like, hmm, not that house. | ||
| That one's not suffering. | ||
| Yeah, right? | ||
| No, but like, there's one house, and you hear two guys arguing in the game room, and they're fighting, and you're like, that fight is getting pretty bad, maybe I should go kick the door in. | ||
| Then there's another house next door, where you hear a woman mercilessly being beaten, and she's screaming for help, please, dear lord, help me. | ||
| And you're like, hmm, and there's a Russian guy with a big gun standing, and he goes, no. | ||
| And you're like, yeah, okay, no intervention there. | ||
| Like, it's just... How about we just be like, look man, I guess the domestic analogy doesn't really work because you can always call the cops. | ||
| There is some inter-home, you know, law enforcement agency. | ||
| Yeah, I guess you can call Team America, right? | ||
| Team America, man. | ||
| The A-Team. | ||
| Greg Nubier says, I find it interesting that General Mark Milley retires a few days before the attack on Israel. | ||
| Just a thought I had. | ||
| I doubt there is any connection. | ||
| Just an interesting coincidence that came to mind. | ||
| Yeah, but it might not be a coincidence. | ||
| Milley was the only one holding it together. | ||
| It was him personally. | ||
| With him gone. | ||
| That's when Israel, Eram Mas was like, you know what? | ||
| We've got to roll in. | ||
| Federale Actual says, thank you for a good twelfth, maybe, of riding high on white pills. | ||
| Three of the best journalists of my generation talking shop on the culture war, and then an amazing event. | ||
| No comment on how awful this world is. | ||
| Keep your heads up. | ||
| That's right, Friday morning in the culture war, it was me, Luke Rutkowski, and James O'Keefe. | ||
| That was a really amazing conversation. | ||
| We didn't really talk about journalism, we talked about people being evil. | ||
| Getting older and realizing that some people's intentions are just malicious and what it means to be backstabbed. | ||
| And this is obviously because Project Veritas stabbed James O'Keefe in the back. | ||
| Brutal stuff. | ||
| Yeah, I've been thinking about a lot how weird it is when people lie, but they like it. | ||
| They twist their minds into now enjoying lying. | ||
| That's weird, dude. | ||
| It's like, I talk about how people always say it's hard to play the evil route in video games. | ||
| Like, RPGs that allow you to play the good guy or the bad guy, and everyone always jokes that it's hard to play the bad guy, and I'm like, nah, they make it for a reason. | ||
| There are people who just like being evil. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| I can't understand it. | ||
| But I've certainly experienced evil people, man! | ||
| People who gloat and laugh about conflict crisis, they're demons. | ||
| They just want the suffering. | ||
| Eat crazy. | ||
| And sometimes they'll lie because they think they're doing good with it. | ||
| And maybe, maybe, maybe they are. | ||
| That's still different. | ||
| I'm not talking about people who think they're good, who do bad things. | ||
| Oh, yes, the ones that are enjoying it. | ||
| They're like, yeah, I'm tricking them and I like it. | ||
| Like I'm telling you, there was a person at Occupy Wall Street who said they just wanted to watch the world burn. | ||
| It was fun. | ||
| Don't you want to just shake it all up and watch it burn? | ||
| And I'm like, no, what? | ||
| That was the mentality of some of these people. | ||
| Shane H. Wilder says not to downplay the situation, which probably would not have happened if Trump was in office, but how long until we're in hot war? | ||
| No wartime president has ever lost, so this could be used to bolster Biden's numbers. | ||
| I do not think so! | ||
| I don't. | ||
| I mean, I get it, but Biden is not a wartime president. | ||
| Biden is a resident of the White House during war. | ||
| There's a difference. | ||
| He's just not lucid. | ||
| No wartime president is lost because they get up on stage and they say, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WILL NOT STAND! | ||
| And then everyone's like, what? | ||
| They're all screaming and cheering. | ||
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Biden's gonna be like, you know, come on, man. | |
| They're bombing Lebanon! | ||
| And they'll be like, no, it's Israel that got attacked. | ||
| Like, what? | ||
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Libya! | |
| And they'll be like, oh, jeez. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| Well, Biden just sort of makes things up as wrong, so we're pretending that we're not as involved in a lot of wars that we are obviously involved in, right? | ||
| I don't think he's a wartime president, but he's also not successfully handling any of the conflict he's gotten us entangled in. | ||
| Yeah, if he's a wartime president, he really messed up that Afghanistan situation. | ||
| The emperor's champion says, I have completely lost any sympathy I had for the Palestinians, and I don't believe anything the left says about Israel because of how much they lie. | ||
| Yeah, but it's not all Palestinians. | ||
| It's really this militant group. | ||
| No, bro, you can't have... | ||
| Every prominent speaker be like, yay, we did it. | ||
| And then when you're like, whoa, you guys align with Hamas? | ||
| No, no, they're a military group. | ||
| And then they'll look at each other and give them like, dude, I suppose those celebrating Hamas's moves would be in support of Hamas. | ||
| Imagine, imagine just like, Okay, obviously we as American citizens are not happy with what's happening in Ukraine, but you better believe they're taking your tax dollars and using it to fund the war in Ukraine. | ||
| I wrote this on Twitter, ignorantly supporting something doesn't make you an advocate for it, but history might not know the difference. | ||
| However, Russia wanting the U.S. | ||
| to stop its NATO expansionist policies is not going to differentiate between any of us. | ||
| They're going to be like, the United States is the machine by which we are being attacked. | ||
| I guess that's why you don't kill civilians. | ||
| And Putin specifically was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, we won't do anything if you promise not to expand NATO. | ||
| And Joe Biden was like, hmm, can't promise that. | ||
| So where was our compromise then? | ||
| And that's the point. | ||
| When Hamas goes and just starts kidnapping and killing civilians and threatening to kill more, you know who the bad guys are. | ||
| I'm not saying Israel is good. | ||
| I'm not saying the war or the occupation or anything was good and, you know, everyone likes what's happening. | ||
| I'm saying one side... Let's put it this way. | ||
| Let's say Israel is just better at propaganda. | ||
| And they're like, when we do it, we'll make sure we're doing it smart. | ||
| Okay, well then the public face of all of this is Israel is trying to avoid civilian deaths, but still collateral damage happens and civilians die. | ||
| And Hamas is gloating and threatening to kill more. | ||
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| Dude, I was thinking, why are they showing video of these atrocities that they're committing? | ||
| Like Israel, at least, if they're gonna do it, they seem to do it under the radar. | ||
| And it's like, is it just their desire to be known, to be relevant? | ||
| It supersedes even that, the desire to hide their evil deeds? | ||
| Why do you record your songs and play them? | ||
| I want to show people. | ||
| Yeah, why? | ||
| Are you proud of it? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Isn't that wild? | ||
| People just want to be relevant, they want to be seen. | ||
| It's not about relevant, it's about them. | ||
| These people in New York are cheering for what happened. | ||
| They're clapping and hooting and cheering. | ||
| The people in Hamas who are doing this want to show those videos to those people so they cheer for them. | ||
| God, man, some of it's so brutal. | ||
| I've only seen a few of the really rough stuff. | ||
| Evil people want to seek praise from other evil people. | ||
| A guy said he saw a video of a girl on fire. | ||
| Did you guys see that video? | ||
| I wouldn't doubt it. | ||
| I'm sure. | ||
| For a long time, until she died. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Takes a while. | ||
| I mean, there's a reason they were like, we're gonna execute people on TV, right? | ||
| Yep, that's why ISIS had, like, the best media team ever. | ||
| So it's a reason for that. | ||
| And they hung out on Twitter for a really long time, from what I remember. | ||
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| SeaWarrior says, Ian, I am constantly impressed with your willingness to be open and vulnerable. | ||
| Your body is your temple to God, and when you honor it, you open your doors to him. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| I'm telling you, Ian started working out, now he's praying to Jesus! | ||
| It's true, I prayed to Jesus earlier. | ||
| Right on the right wing extremist pipeline, like in Florida. | ||
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That's right! | |
| That's cool. | ||
| You can pray to your father, your mother, your sister. | ||
| You can pray to anyone and you'll hear their voice talk back to you. | ||
| At least from my experience, it seems to work. | ||
| I don't think you're praying to them, but I understand. | ||
| It's like God speaks to you through the visage of what you pray to. | ||
| You could say that, sure. | ||
| Ian starts working out. | ||
| Look what's going on. | ||
| Oh, I worked out today. | ||
| See? | ||
| I'm telling you guys. | ||
| Hell yeah. | ||
| Good job, man. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Andrew Roland says, what everyone is forgetting is that Hamas attacked civilians, not an army base. | ||
| Oh, so this is my argument. | ||
| Once you directly go for the civilians, all gloves are off. | ||
| The counter argument that you're going to get with that argument, and you're right, they did, but is that Israel has been sieging civilians and starving them and having them live without medicine. | ||
| So it's like a passive attack on civilians. | ||
| I'm not sure I follow. | ||
| That's the argument that the Palestinians are making is that Israel has been passively attacking the civilians by putting them in a siege situation. | ||
| The conditions in Gaza are brutal and it's very, very bad. | ||
| Israel controls a lot of what goes into and out of the Gaza Strip. | ||
| There's also a border with Egypt. | ||
| The Gaza Strip borders Egypt. | ||
| What is it, the Rafah? | ||
| Which crossing is that? | ||
| So it's not just Israel. | ||
| It's not just Israel's fault. | ||
| Why isn't Egypt opening the borders and helping people? | ||
| Why is Egypt doing this? | ||
| Egypt was actually flooding the tunnels under Gaza. | ||
| Why would Egypt do this? | ||
| They put poisonous gas down there. | ||
| Ian, why is Egypt starving the people of Gaza? | ||
| Because they work for us, man. | ||
| They work for the liberal economic order. | ||
| They don't want to spread the anger. | ||
| Everyone keeps saying Israel, but they forgot there's another border here. | ||
| Well, Egypt told Israel something big was happening. | ||
| Remember that report? | ||
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That's right. | |
| And that's supposed to paint Israel in a bad light. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Weirdly, the country that moderates between the two had this information, apparently. | ||
| I mean, it all just seems like, you know, I don't want to say anything that I don't know about, but it seems like obviously there is nuance to this conflict that none of us pay attention, or it's difficult for people who are not there to know all the details of. | ||
| Number one American Rob says, Ian is correct. | ||
| 9-11 was the start. | ||
| I can't believe I just said, Ian is correct. | ||
| It really is the end. | ||
| It's just the beginning, man. | ||
| Gary Will says, how did the DSA know to have a rally the day after the attack? | ||
| It takes weeks to permit. | ||
| I want all members to question, including the squad, and begin the expulsion of the squad for their support of the attack. | ||
| Organizing these rallies is a day of thing. | ||
| In New York, everyone just hops on the train and meets up in Times Square. | ||
| When the DSA put out a tweet, that was it. | ||
| The event was organized and they don't need permits for it because it's free speech. | ||
| That being said, I believe it is entirely justified. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| AOC needs to answer for that video. | ||
| What does that mean? | ||
| I'm not saying disavow. | ||
| I'm saying a journalist should ask AOC. | ||
| You, AOC, are a card-carrying member of the Democratic Socialists of America who promoted an event where they celebrated the murder of civilians. | ||
| Do you agree with your organization, or is this an instance where your opinion stands out? | ||
| And I will say, to me, from checking her Twitter, I haven't seen any statements come out about any of this, so it seems like her office is going dark. | ||
| Yeah, they're celebrating. | ||
| How hard is it to be like, kill civilians? | ||
| I bet there are journalists that are trying to get a hold of her, and she is stealthily avoiding this, which is not a great sign, you know? | ||
| Well, I just think it's, I'm just gonna come out and say it, AOC has not issued a statement condemning an organization she's a member of celebrating the mass killing of Jews. | ||
| When did, she hasn't even posted on Twitter in like three days? | ||
| Right. | ||
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Wow. | |
| She went dark. | ||
| I mean like, you can't come out and condemn violence? | ||
| I thought, what? | ||
| I think it's because she knows that her base is a bunch of people who hate Israel and hate Jewish people. | ||
| And I think you'll see this throughout the Democratic Party. | ||
| There is going to be a lot of people who are now losing support because there is probably no correct way to make everyone happy. | ||
| Can we just imagine, like, a politician who is a known member of the Klan, and the Klan goes out celebrating the lynching of a black guy, and then people are like, well, you know, AOC, like, the politician didn't know about it. | ||
| I'm like, dude, she's a member of that organization. | ||
| Proudly. | ||
| Proudly affiliated. | ||
| They're celebrating the death of civilians. | ||
| And she goes dark. | ||
| Yeah, I think she supports it. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| I think it is fair to say right now Ocasio-Cortez supports what happened with Hamas coming and killing civilians. | ||
| But it might also be like if she did speak out against it that her base would revolt. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
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So if she speaks out against... She is defending, she is supporting her constituents. | |
| Yeah, inaction is inaction. | ||
| I mean, in this regard, what I'm saying is, she doesn't want to cause damage to the people she supports. | ||
| That's interesting, too, because she's supposed to be a representative of the people she represents, so if they want war, does that mean she has to want war? | ||
| No, a representative is supposed to be the safeguard for that. | ||
| She should come out and condemn the killing of civilians, but she knows she will get eviscerated by the left. | ||
| So she says nothing, because she's evil. | ||
| I think it's funny, though, that the Democrats that are condemning her are staunch interventionists, and they're like, what a horrible thing for this squad to say! | ||
| Send our troops over to Israel and send more money! | ||
| It's like, oh, jeez. | ||
| It's one or the other, huh? | ||
| I saw that Mike Cernovich tweet about people that were so much about pro-life, life in the womb. | ||
| He's like, if a baby dies in the womb in Gaza, is that an abortion? | ||
| Yeah, Cernovich is great. | ||
| He's a smart guy. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| Right, I think the problem is we're dealing with war. | ||
| Israel is going to respond. | ||
| The al-Qassam brigades use civilian locations, hospitals, schools, etc., or if they have hospitals, intentionally. | ||
| And then Israel's only choice is either you take out where the rockets are coming from, or you let them keep firing rockets at you. | ||
| If Israel did not have the Iron Dome, the narrative would be very, very different. | ||
| The narrative would be every day another Israeli was being killed, killed, killed, killed, killed. | ||
| And it would not be the same for the people of Palestine, of Gaza. | ||
| But because they have the Iron Dome, this is the craziest thing. | ||
| Antifa beats people consistently. | ||
| But because they're not killing them, because these people are, you know, more likely to survive or whatever, it doesn't make the news. | ||
| That's the issue. | ||
| Because Israel is able to stop the rockets, people act like Israel's fine. | ||
| I'm like, bro, I mean, if they didn't have the Iron Dome, the narrative would be very different. | ||
| It's crazy, isn't it? | ||
| We need a Graphene Dome. | ||
| Someone wrote in the chat, right when I said it, Mark Johnson. | ||
| What's up, dude? | ||
| That's awesome. | ||
| Right after I said it, it appeared. | ||
| The Iron Dome is actually just, when a rocket's fired, another rocket blows it up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| They cost, I think they said, 20 times more. | ||
| Each Israeli rocket costs 20 times as much as each Palestinian rocket that's blowing up. | ||
| And the Palestinians are just firing a bunch of rockets at random, hoping to hit as many civilians as possible. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And they do. | ||
| They're targeting civilians. | ||
| That's why they cheered that the rockets reached Tel Aviv. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| In what circumstance have we ever, as a nation, in war, been like, yeah, we bombed a bunch of civilians. | ||
| It's not happened. | ||
| We've never been the under, well, I never, the American Revolution, we're kind of an underdog. | ||
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| But the underdog when you're like I would imagine it and if you're like oppressed and you're in complete and total slave servitude Like you'll do whatever you can to get out anything. | ||
| I don't see how Killing civilians helps anyone in that circumstance. Like I was saying, if | ||
| you're in prison and you break out, and the first thing you do is run full speed and mercilessly | ||
| beat to death a 20-year-old woman, everyone's going to be like, clearly freedom wasn't his | ||
| first priority. | ||
| Like, the argument is that these barriers and these fences are keeping them in prison, | ||
| so they're breaking out. Al Jazeera put out that video where they're like, these fences | ||
| are not borders and they're kept in there with no resources or whatever. | ||
| So when they return, they're tearing these barricades down. | ||
| And I'm like, yeah, and then they're running full speed and just going and murdering civilians. | ||
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It doesn't help their case. | |
| Exactly. | ||
| Yeah, if they broke out, and like I said, targeted only military and ushered civilians away, imagine if they tore the barricades down, paraglided in, Rounded up all the civilians and then said, start leaving, get in your cars and go. | ||
| Go, go, go, go. | ||
| No, no, no, no, no. | ||
| We don't want you guys getting caught in this. | ||
| And then actually the militants seized the territory and held it. | ||
| Very different. | ||
| And then issued a declaration that this land is historically Palestine. | ||
| It was seized illegally by Israel. | ||
| They've evacuated the civilians, but are claiming this territory. | ||
| What would the narrative have been then? | ||
| It would have been a very, very different narrative. | ||
| Still war, still conflict. | ||
| Gunfight probably would have still happened, but we would be sitting there being like, why are they killing civilians? | ||
| I was reading that in Israel that a lot of them are disarmed, they don't have guns, and a big part of the problem right now is that Hamas knew that. | ||
| That's why they were going door-to-door, slowly, just executing people. | ||
| And then the Israeli government issued, like, an emergency order to give people the right to get guns really, really rapidly. | ||
| I can't believe that Israel had gun control like this. | ||
| Yeah, me either. | ||
| It's crazy, dude! | ||
| It's a war zone! | ||
| It's absolute necessity for a Second Amendment for a right to bear arms, that is why. | ||
| I think one of the things about Hamas, too, is how can they say they represent people in Palestine when they're willing to put them in harm's way, knowingly put them in harm's way, and put those surface-to-air missiles, et cetera, in their hospitals? | ||
| How can you say you represent Palestinians who are willing to get them killed? | ||
| They say they got nothing left to lose. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I guess. | ||
| All the people you're fighting for, you don't mind if they all die? | ||
| I don't know about that. | ||
| That's where I draw the line. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| Mick Morris says, To Ian, the Holy Spirit is with you. | ||
| Don't be afraid. | ||
| Be glad. | ||
| Let the Holy Spirit work inside. | ||
| Trust the Word. | ||
| I recommend you read the New Testament book, 1 John. | ||
| It's a short read. | ||
| God bless. | ||
| Thanks. | ||
| Yeah, my plan is to read the Bible, the Torah, and the Qur'an. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I gave him the old Qur'an, maybe. | ||
| I gave him the Talmud and the Torah as well, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, that's John 1, I think you said? | ||
| John 1, yeah. | ||
| Oh, I was reading the Sermon on the Mount, dude. | ||
| But also the- First John. | ||
| What is it, a Hadith? | ||
| Is that it? | ||
| Hadith are, like, additions to the Qur'an. | ||
| The Qur'an is the main book. | ||
| Hadith are other additions. | ||
| But if you want to understand a lot of what we're saying, you've got to read that Hadith. | ||
| Right, it's the Hadith. | ||
| There are many of them. | ||
| by Islamic scholars who have studied the Quran, who said that they have some sort of connection | ||
| to allow them to write more about it. | ||
| But yeah, the Talmud is like the, from what I understand, the other book, like the Hadith | ||
| in a sense, it's addition to the main book. | ||
| It's like the footnotes for dummies? | ||
| The Torah for dummies and the Quran for dummies? | ||
| It's addition. | ||
| Other reading. | ||
| Additional reading. | ||
| Does the Bible have anything like that? | ||
| I mean, not really. | ||
| Old Testament, New Testament. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| you. | ||
| Alright, MonkInTraining says, Tim, US supports Israel because it's a cultural technological intelligence ally. | ||
| Ian, what are you seeing now the results of a culture at war with the West at large and Israel? | ||
| Peace can't be held when you have enemies that want you dead. | ||
| I don't understand the question exactly. | ||
| I don't think it's a question, I think he's saying you can't have peace if the other side wants you dead. | ||
| Like if there's two people and one guy's like, look man, can we just leave each other alone? | ||
| The other guy is saying like, no, I want death. | ||
| In the United States, that's why you carry a weapon. | ||
| And so the left makes the argument, which they're lying, where they show the comic where it's the Klan and a bunch of black people and a guy in the middle saying compromise, which is literally not the argument between left and right. | ||
| Left and right is saying destroy the right, they're evil, they're fascists, and the right saying, please leave me alone. | ||
| You know why? | ||
| Because I believe deep down most of the anger and aggression is about territory, that the United States has invaded Iraq, invaded Afghanistan, Libya, and that Israel was formed in 1918 or whenever it was formed and put there. | ||
| So like, I don't think they hate, just hate me. | ||
| I think that they hate that we've colonized that area of the world and displaced them. | ||
| Mr. Avi says, the amount of people justifying war crimes right now is astounding. | ||
| The same people who said Russia was evil for bombing schools and hospitals are saying it's fine when Israel bombs civilian centers. | ||
| I think it's all bad, I just want the violence to end. | ||
| And here's my response is, you are completely correct about bombing schools and hospitals, but they're not arbitrarily doing it. | ||
| Israel was not like, haha, we're gonna go blow up a hospital. | ||
| They were like, hey, all those rockets are being fired from a hospital. | ||
| What do we do? | ||
| Well... | ||
| Take it out! | ||
| That's where the rockets are coming from. | ||
| I want to give a shout out to Shuan Head, however, who tweeted, as an American, I frankly couldn't imagine having my water shut off every time my country did a war crime. | ||
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| It's a really great tweet because it acknowledges that it was a war crime what Hamas did, but the US would be in real trouble if we kept getting our water shut off every time we did something. | ||
| True that. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| Where are we at? | ||
| Let's see, Patriot American says Hannah, the IRA, he means Hannah Clare, the IRA used to have backing from politicians, even judges of Irish Catholic descent in America, dating back to the Irish War of Independence in 1918, up until the end of the Troubles in Northern Ireland in 1995. | ||
| Oh, I forgot that we put boots on the grounds then. | ||
| We didn't, though. | ||
| I mean, it's one thing for there to be support politically, but we didn't intervene in the way that we were obviously going to in Israel. | ||
| Dude, I just love how the, like, you have this, the Troubles, you know, 30 years ago in Ireland, and they're like, Ireland for the Irish, but now they're all like globalists who are like, open borders, and like, what? | ||
| It's funny how this conflict only ended because of the European Union created the Schengen zone, so now there's like... Yeah, it was weird. | ||
| But now that's all done again, I guess, because of Brexit. | ||
| Yeah, true. | ||
| Weird. | ||
| Case Closed says, Tim, it was cool seeing you in Miami last week. | ||
| The next day was also cool because I visited the Bay of Pigs Museum and met a veteran of the invasion who actually knew Mr. Artime. | ||
| Artime? | ||
| How do you pronounce that? | ||
| Namesake of the theater. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Artime, probably. | ||
| Yeah, our teammate. | ||
| Wow, that's very cool, very cool. | ||
| Yeah, Miami was fun. | ||
| We're thinking Nashville for the next one. | ||
| Sounds great. | ||
| Because we were talking about Nashville for a while. | ||
| Yeah, Bass Records is there, Daily Wire is there. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I'm lobbying for Pittsburgh. | ||
| I've been a huge fan of the city. | ||
| I've never been. | ||
| Why Pittsburgh? | ||
| Oh, I like Pittsburgh because... It's two hours away? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| You know, we can travel. | ||
| But I like Pittsburgh because it's this industrial city in a swing state that's gone through kind of all the changes with America. | ||
| Oh, that's good. | ||
| You know, the Heinz Ketchup Museum is there because that was sort of this political industrial dynasty. | ||
| And, you know... We should do it. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| I think so, too. | ||
| The thing about Pittsburgh that's really easy for us is I think it's actually like two hours and 45 minutes from us. | ||
| Yeah, it's real close. | ||
| Which means when we did Miami, we have to deploy the mobile studio. | ||
| They're still not back. | ||
| What's up? | ||
| They're still not back. | ||
| Yeah, they're still not back. | ||
| No, they're still driving. | ||
| Are they okay? | ||
| Yeah, they're fine. | ||
| They're just driving. | ||
| But if we do Pittsburgh, it's literally, we just drive up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Friday afternoon, we drive up to Pittsburgh and do the show. | ||
| It's substantially easier than doing these trips that are further out. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I think Pittsburgh is a really interesting city. | ||
| I will say I've never been there, I've just read a lot about it because I keep thinking I will go there. | ||
| But it's, to me, a representation of a lot of cities in America that get left behind, and I know that there's an argument to being like, oh, we should bring our show to places that are more liberal-centered, but I think, especially because Pennsylvania is such an interesting place generally, I'm all for Pittsburgh. | ||
| You know, then we all go to the Heinz Ketcher Museum or we go to the, um, is it? | ||
| Pozo's a PA boy, right? | ||
| I think so? | ||
| I always think he's Maryland, but I could be wrong. | ||
| Oh yeah, he's Philly. | ||
| Yeah, we gotta have him come down. | ||
| Yeah, we can go look at these old beautiful Victorian mansions that were built up during the industrial era of America. | ||
| We can talk about where the manufacturing jobs went. | ||
| There's this hotel that's in an old monastery that I would personally like to see. | ||
| Come on, Pittsburgh is cool, guys! | ||
| Well no, I think we can do Pittsburgh within a couple months because it's a drive. | ||
| We do the show like normal and then Friday night we drive up. | ||
| And it's near WVU, it's really close, so it'd be cool to sort of figure out a way to support our West Virginia crew. | ||
| The Nashville thing is going to be another deploy the mobile crew a week in Nashville. | ||
| These are big trips, they're really hard to pull off, takes a really long time. | ||
| I think if we do Pittsburgh we could get it done in like four or five months preparation for it. | ||
| Not to make our events team immediately jump into action. | ||
| People don't understand how hard it is. | ||
| So for the Miami event, we are slightly above break-even across the board. | ||
| This means basically like the only money I think we made was merch, it was a couple grand. | ||
| The event, it's cost six figures to operate, to do everything we need to do to make it work. | ||
| And in the end, We were like, yay, we did it. | ||
| We made a good amount of money. | ||
| And I'm like, and that money goes towards setting up the next event. | ||
| Because if we call it here and say, here's the money we got, it's like, okay, well, like we didn't make enough. | ||
| I think it'd be cool. | ||
| I mean, I don't have anything to do with the events. | ||
| I'm really grateful to people that do, they work really hard. | ||
| But it would be interesting if we kind of do a home and away format where we do like, you know, two hour to three hour drive from us, do that radius and then have the bigger trips too. | ||
| Because like DC would be really easy. | ||
| DC would be really easy. | ||
| Honestly, we'd go to Richmond, although Richmond's kind of a hostile place. | ||
| We'd go to Cleveland, hang out in Ohio. | ||
| Obviously, Pittsburgh is number one in my heart. | ||
| We have to go there first. | ||
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| I don't know. | ||
| I think part of it was when I moved to West Virginia, it was like during the pandemic, and so there wasn't a ton of things to do. | ||
| So I kept thinking, when things get open or whatever else, I'll go. | ||
| I honestly the anthropology home outlet is near Pittsburgh and so in my mind I was like I'll go there and then I'll I wouldn't do Philly though just personally I wouldn't do Philly and I wouldn't do Baltimore to be honest but there are other places in Virginia in West Virginia you know again Pennsylvania I'm gonna I'm gonna pitch Pittsburgh. | ||
| Pittsburgh's a good idea. | ||
| Nancy had mentioned it to us about a public hospital. | ||
| Yeah I've been lobbying Nancy for a couple months on it. | ||
| I'd love to do Akron, Ohio, my hometown. | ||
| No, I agree. | ||
| I think we should. | ||
| And it would be awesome if we could get Vivek, because he's from Ohio, to do an event there. | ||
| They've got Blossom Music Center. | ||
| We can make RFK come to our Pittsburgh event, since apparently he lives in Pennsylvania. | ||
| All right, we'll grab one more Super Chat here. | ||
| We got Luke Watt who says, Ian, as soon as I heard you say, Jesus told me to tell you, and God told me to respond, here's to my first Super Chat, very well spent. | ||
| I hope you grow to know and love God. | ||
| I know the God of love, the God of joy, the God of peace, the God of hope would love to talk. | ||
| I'm just saying, you know, Ian starts working out and we said he was going to be conservative. | ||
| The prayer was, I visualized, I said, Jesus, please help me. | ||
| And it was a voice like, tell them. | ||
| And so I just thought, okay, I'll tell you that I asked him. | ||
| I guess that's what I got out of it. | ||
| Maybe if my head was clearer, there would have been a longer message. | ||
| The pineal gland is decalcifying and the energy is being beamed into you, Ian. | ||
| I try to keep asking him things and it's like, it starts to get like, all this, what do you call it? | ||
| Interference. | ||
| There started to be interference. | ||
| So you got to kind of, one question at a time, relax, let your brain calm down after the message comes. | ||
| Because when you're in a calm state is when you can really hear the message. | ||
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| James, you want to shout anything out? | ||
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I don't, except Project 2025. | |
| If you want to sign up to serve in the next conservative administration, go to Project2025.org. | ||
| Right on. | ||
| That's awesome. | ||
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| Guys, thank you so much, and thanks to everyone who came out to the Miami event. | ||
| It was so fun. | ||
| Oh my gosh, and thanks to the road crew. | ||
| Brian, Carter, who else is out there? | ||
| Sarah, Chris. | ||
| Everybody. | ||
| We got Andrew Minks is on the road. | ||
| Nope, Andrew's not on the road. | ||
| He went down there, though. | ||
| Oh, he didn't go down? | ||
| Andrew, you suck. | ||
| Just kidding. | ||
| And a message for everyone else, Allah Hashim, I pray for the God that they give goodness to the people that need it, the things that they need, that they come together and they start to see each other for what they are, that they're all human on earth together, and that we're doing this together, and that we will work together. | ||
| And I'll see you guys tomorrow. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Shout out to Carter and Brian and the rest of Rage Clue, including Chris and Sarah, I think are also on the way back. | ||
| It was fun to be in Miami. | ||
| I'm sorry I didn't see anybody. | ||
| I know a bunch of people messaged me about not being at the event, but when you're there working in the morning and you want to go home and change clothes because you're sweating, it's Miami. | ||
| Sometimes you got to make calls. | ||
| So, sorry y'all. | ||
| It certainly wasn't pretty enough for you guys. | ||
| We got on the boat. | ||
| Sorry about that. | ||
| Yeah, the boat was cold. | ||
| Wonderful. | ||
| All right, everybody. | ||
| We'll see you all over at TimCast.com in about a minute. |
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