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Aug. 22, 2023 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Timcast IRL - COVID Mandates ARE BACK, Cities Restart MANDATES Over New Variants w/Natalie Winters
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unidentified
It appears that there is a problem.
tim pool
It appears that COVID mandates are back, at least at some universities, at a Hollywood
studio and we're seeing more calls for the return of mask mandates and for people to
get their booster shots.
Joe Biden is advising everybody, you got to get your new booster.
Forbes.com is saying there's going to be a new COVID booster coming out this fall, and you should talk to your doctor about when you should get your new vaccine.
Forbes is saying that doctors are advising you wait for the new one that's coming out this fall.
There's a lot of reasons to believe that the lockdowns will return, government expenditures, and as such.
And we've often talked about what the Democrats would need to win an election against Trump, considering Trump lost by only about 42,000 votes across three states.
Yeah, they're going to need an excuse to lock people in their homes to enforce mail-in voting
to shut down people's entertainment to keep them hyper-focused.
I don't know that it'll work this time, but we're going to talk about that.
Plus, we've got a bunch of other news.
Donald Trump is going to turn himself in on Thursday.
We'll talk a little bit about that.
The, oh, this one's good.
Trump has launched a vice presidential debate website mocking the GOP debates, and we'll
get into that.
Plus, you've got people coming after Oliver Anthony because of a quote that he gave to
Fox News.
So I definitely want to talk about where we're at culturally.
I think Oliver Anthony is absolutely fantastic, and the quote he gave that everyone's ragging on him for, totally out of context.
They are trying to smear the guy because he's doing something good.
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Joining us tonight to talk about all of this and so much more is Natalie Winters.
natalie winters
Hi, thank you so much for having me.
It's always an honor to be back and to be with you guys.
tim pool
Absolutely.
Who are you?
natalie winters
I am the co-host of Steve Bannon's War Room, and I also run the affiliated website, which is warroom.org, where I occasionally dabble in investigative reporting about all things China, in this case, COVID lockdowns, but basically how the deep state is lying to you.
tim pool
Right on.
Thanks for hanging out.
We got Phil Labonte.
phil labonte
Hello, everybody.
I am Phil Labonte, lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains, anti-communist and counter-revolutionary.
Today, I am wearing my Hawaii hat in solidarity with those people that have had their lives destroyed in Hawaii.
tim pool
You see the video of them flicking off Joe Biden and screaming at him?
phil labonte
I've seen a lot of videos.
And they have every right to be pissed.
Every right.
tim pool
That's another story that we have for you guys.
Joe Biden falling asleep during the meeting with the victims.
Falling asleep!
Come on.
ian crossland
Is it true that someone withheld water from the fire department or something?
phil labonte
This is how I understand it.
Yes, I was listening to Tulsi Gabbard talking to Glenn Beck on a podcast today.
And she was saying that there's a lot of issues and fights over water rights on Maui.
They don't have a lot of A lot of places get water.
The streams aren't running.
It's not raining.
There ain't water there.
There's not like a bunch of... you're surrounded by seawater.
But yes, there was issues.
I don't know the details so I don't want to say what it was, but there was some kind of issue that caused them to have to slow getting water out to put the fires out.
But the wind was going At a hundred miles an hour.
They were talking about the actual fires were progressing at like 60 miles an hour.
serge du preez
70 knots.
70 knots.
phil labonte
That's crazy.
I mean, you're, you're done.
Like you're not outrunning that.
Obviously not.
It's like you, you're, there's nowhere you're going to get inside to get away from it.
Cause the buildings are all, you know, it's like, you are just people were jumping in the water.
Yeah.
Crazy.
It looks like a thousand people are dead and it looks like a lot of that thousand are going to be kids.
It's a horror show.
ian crossland
Kids that got sent home from school because of the fire and they didn't have anywhere to go and they burned alive.
Jeez, come on.
Well, hey.
Hi, everyone.
tim pool
Joe was tired, man.
Come on.
phil labonte
Yeah, he's tuckered out, man.
ian crossland
Joe Biden took 10 days to get the Navy involved.
phil labonte
Someone said that they don't think that it was... They think that the reason that he didn't get out there is because he's sick and he can't make the trip.
That's why he had to stop in Tahoe because it's an 11-hour flight from D.C.
tim pool
And he's got the IV marks on his hand and all that.
We'll talk about it.
We'll talk about it.
ian crossland
I also, hey everyone, Ian Cross, and I've got this crystal that Luke Rutkowski got for me.
Apparently he charged it in the Pacific Ocean himself.
Looks like quartz crystal.
tim pool
We bought it from an old man on the sidewalk in Tijuana.
ian crossland
Thanks, old man!
tim pool
And he was like, we were like, how much is this?
And he's like, how much you got?
And we were like, I don't know.
And then he looks at our hand, and we're holding a bunch of pesos, and he's like, yeah, that.
And we're like, yeah, sure, give us the rock.
phil labonte
Give us the rock, old man!
natalie winters
Sounds more with it than Joe Biden.
tim pool
And then Luke was like, we can't just give it to you, we have to charge it in the ocean.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So we walked right by where the border was, and Luke put it in the water to charge it up.
ian crossland
Oh, that's what I'm talking about.
Get that Mexican-American energy.
Thanks, Luke.
phil labonte
I thought you were talking about like a Tesla charging station or something.
ian crossland
You charge the cords, and then you can withdraw the energy later, yeah.
Cool.
I may take it off because it's kind of heavy around my neck.
Like a millstone.
phil labonte
There's ghosts in that rock there, Ian.
ian crossland
I will taunt it.
tim pool
We got Surge pressing buttons.
serge du preez
Yeah, I like Ian's Santeria crystal.
That's pretty cool.
What's up, guys?
I'm Surge.com.
I'm ready for the show to start.
tim pool
All right, let's go.
Ladies and gentlemen, here's the story from today from CBS News.
Atlanta-based Morris Brown College says they are reinstating COVID mask mandates.
Lionsgate reinstates mask mandate in parts of Santa Monica office following COVID outbreak.
And don't forget the New York Post.
Amid summer surge of new COVID variants, should we be wearing masks?
ian crossland
No.
tim pool
You've also got a bunch of stories about Biden advocating for people to start getting their vaccines once again.
We've got a new vaccine variant being released this fall, according to Forbes.
But it seems very likely, at least right now, that COVID mandates will be returning.
Now, the story started with none other than Alex Jones, who said that he spoke with a TSA whistleblower, who said that they had been called into a meeting to discuss the new COVID policies, and by October, they will be in full-blown COVID policy mandate, etc.
I don't know that's guaranteed, because often when there's a big backlash, when we talk about things, when other shows talk about it, then these stories might disappear because they're worried about a big splash shocking people.
So maybe, maybe nothing happens.
But I do gotta say, I don't know what else the Democrats can do to try to win in 2024 because they desperately need that procedural help when it comes to universal mail-in voting.
ian crossland
You could supply a good candidate.
That would help.
Robert F. Kennedy, I don't know if he really has a chance in hell.
The problem with the Democratic Party is they have super-delicates, so they can just pick the candidate.
So it doesn't really matter who votes for who.
They just decide that that's how it goes.
We're going to run this time, so nice Democratic Republic.
tim pool
Well, it's like, you know, the Democrats are the Harlem Globetrotters and the Republicans are the Washington Generals.
phil labonte
That's pretty accurate, I think.
ian crossland
So, Gavin Newsom's not the guy.
Michelle Obama doesn't want to run, I hear.
phil labonte
Why do you keep bringing Michelle Obama up?
ian crossland
I've heard that she wants, or they wanted to run her.
phil labonte
They wicked wanted her to run because she would win, but...
ian crossland
But she doesn't want to do it?
tim pool
You don't think so?
I would have agreed with that a couple years ago.
I'm not so convinced today.
Trump got 75 million votes in 2020.
That is more than... He got more votes than any sitting president, any incumbent.
And historically, I believe this is true, a president who received more votes in their re-election has never lost until Trump.
There were a lot of things that affected 2020, but the most important factor here is that... The Democratic Party?
Well, for sure, I mean, judges, governors, policy changes, lawsuits, et cetera.
But when all of these never-Trumpers and Democrats are saying Trump can't win, actually, now the Democrats are saying Trump can win and probably will win, and you get these never-Trumpers being like, no, no, Trump can't win, even when Democrats are like, actually, it's looking pretty good for Trump.
Donald Trump lost by only about 42,000 votes in three states.
Yeah, he can easily remedy that.
And especially with Joe Biden's failures.
My concern with these COVID lockdowns, not so much my concern, but my thinking on this, I'm not so convinced it'll get as bad as many people think because Joe Biden's president.
Democrats have the Senate.
If they start locking things down and forcing mandates on people, it's Joe Biden's fault.
Maybe that's opening the door to bring in a Gavin Newsom or something because they can't run Biden.
But this will not help Joe Biden.
natalie winters
I think the easiest way to kind of view all the actions that Democrats do is through the paradigm of obviously a Accusing your enemies of what you're guilty of.
And I think for so long they accused Donald Trump of, you know, conspiring to overturn the election results and sort of, more broadly, the Republican Party.
That's what they did in 2020.
And even from the onset of Trump's campaign in 2016, right, it was Russia, foreign collusion.
And I really think that if you look at the pandemic through that lens, in other words, they used the mail-in voting, they used the pandemic as an excuse to allow a bunch of money from, you know, these Mark Zuckerberg-aligned groups to really change The way that elections were run to really turn it into nothing that resembles a free and fair election.
And I think that is why they have been going so hard accusing Donald Trump and the Trump campaign of trying to alter election results and conspiracies to overturn elections, because in reality, that's what they're fundamentally trying to do.
And I think one of the ways they do it is the lawfare with the indictments and stuff like that.
But I think these COVID-19 mandates, it's another form of lawfare that is almost more nefarious.
phil labonte
I think that we were talking earlier about the point just being to get mail-in ballots out.
I think that the lockdowns are just going to be... I think that the government and stuff will say, OK, you should lock down or there will be lockdowns.
I think there's going to be a large, vast majority of Americans are going to ignore it.
And then the government's just going to behave as if Everyone's doing what they say they're gonna do they're gonna act like everyone's listening like everyone's locking down and everyone's gonna be like it's so weird that they keep saying that this is like we should lock down but nobody does anything and they're gonna use it as an excuse so that way they can mail out ballots again so that way they get the ballots into people's hands.
tim pool
I think 98% I agree with you.
I would tweak it only slightly.
I think what they may end up doing is They'll say, we realize that hard lockdown policies were widely condemned, and so, listening to the will of the people, we are going to roll out our guidelines that you lock down, but no, no, this time, no one's gonna force you.
Because that was under Trump that you were forced.
phil labonte
Joe Biden- And they can still use it as an excuse to send out the ballots, absolutely.
tim pool
And they'll say, and because our guidelines are as such, we'll be sending out mail-in ballots to every single home in the state.
natalie winters
Well, and remember, too, that I think it was either this week or next week, there was a lot of consternation over the fact that Joe Biden was potentially going to declare a climate emergency and use that as a pretext to kind of institute climate lockdowns and whatnot.
So, frankly, I always thought that it would be more likely that they would bring about the second round of lockdowns.
I don't know how that works.
phil labonte
Because the first lockdowns, people would, like myself included, gave the government the benefit of the doubt.
Gave them the benefit of the doubt.
Said, okay, we're going to say, if the stuff that you're saying is true, it could be a problem, so we're going to give you the benefit of the doubt.
How on earth Are they going to convince people that are adults that are 35 and older that have been seeing climate alarmism for their entire life?
How are they going to get those people to actually believe that this new issue that they're bringing up is actually worth locking down for?
And you have to stop.
How do you how do they do it?
tim pool
Easy.
phil labonte
How?
tim pool
Smog.
When the smoke came here, I was messed up.
I woke up, my throat was on fire, and I was short of breath.
phil labonte
Are we seeding the clouds?
Are we starting fires to get smoke?
tim pool
I mean, I'm just saying, they're going to use the smoke problem as a pretext for, we need to do something about this.
Now, I'm not saying they're starting fires.
I'm saying, they've already said the smoke is going to come back this fall.
Surprise, surprise.
serge du preez
Because of their particular policies that allowed for these rainforests, not rainforests, but forests to build up a loam that eventually were burned.
natalie winters
John Podesta literally said the Maui fires are because of climate change, so they obviously are using all these crises to change Africa.
tim pool
It's going to have to get widespread, but not so extreme as Maui.
But when you have... That smoke was brutal.
It was really, really bad.
And we had to bring the chickens inside because the chickens are low to the ground.
natalie winters
Where did you put them?
tim pool
We put them in a shed.
We put them in a shed.
We had to get some kind of air conditioning because it was too hot.
But you need something to put them inside to deal with the particulates because they can die.
You get enough of those events where people keep panicking and people are getting sick and people going to the hospital and then they're going to say, we have to do something about climate change.
natalie winters
And I mean, even look at Hurricane Hillary in California.
I'm from California.
My parents were there.
They sent me videos and I sort of joked them.
I was like, it just looks like it's raining and not.
I'm sure people were injured.
You know, no one.
No one died in California, right?
I think I'm correct in that one person maybe died in Mexico, but my parents said you went to the grocery stores, every single thing except for sliced white bread was gone.
And I think that shows you how the media, if they really can manufacture a narrative around some, you know, looming impending natural disaster, whether it's the smog, a hurricane, this, that.
Even if in reality it's not actually as intense as they want it to be, they can sort of like social engineer a reaction or response to it that elicits, almost in some ways, a reaction that's worse than a hurricane.
tim pool
I agree, but I gotta respond to this.
phil labonte
Hurricanes are just drizzle.
tim pool
at hurricane sandy new york there's no right at all and this is
uh... mistake i made when i was in hurricane irene virginia that are that
uh... don't get me wrong hurricanes can have rain and there was some rain for
sandy so when i was in sand tonight
i'm standing near the stock exchange the financial district watching manhattan
flood and the waters are rising we're putting sandbags out
and all there was no strong wind and there was no rain at this time
and all you are was a war because the wind was going above the buildings and being uh...
refracted from the buildings
when i was in irene no strong rain at all and i was shocked and i was like
where's the rain so i see all these videos from people
And they're like, this is the Great Hurricane, it's just drizzle!
And then you have this massive flooding sweeping through the L.A.
River, and man, there's this video of these guys jogging, and the water is raging next to them as they're on this walking path, and then they come to this water that's flowing rapidly across the path, and they hop and skip through it, and I'm like, that's how you die.
Because you put one foot down, it pushes you over, and you get swept into that massive raging storm current, and then you're dead.
The issue with hurricanes is always storm surge.
And I also want to add, we know that the hurricane in Los Angeles wasn't climate change.
It was the wrath of God over the drag nuns.
I'm kidding.
But it is crazy to see.
The news is the most important factor in whether or not you get a reaction.
If the media, and even we are guilty of this and everyone's guilty of this, the media dictates the narrative and the story.
All their journalists will just start talking about the same thing and then all the conservatives will come out and react to it.
So, when they decide the big story is going to be these fires, everyone's like, oh, the fires, oh, the fires.
And then you're going to get more and more news where they're going to put the smog death counter, and they're going to be like, we have to do something about it.
And then all of the Democrats and all the neolibs are going to be like, why aren't you locking down?
It's the smog, it's coming, it's climate change.
I believe it's entirely possible.
phil labonte
I imagine there will be a lot more interpersonal conflict with people on the street, with people saying, you know, when it comes to people that are complaining about, oh, why aren't you locking down?
And then the people that don't want to lock down don't want to wear a mask.
They're not going to be quiet about it anymore.
Again, people gave the benefit of the doubt the first time in 2020.
They're not going to give the benefit of the doubt anymore.
natalie winters
15 days to slow the spread.
Fool me one.
phil labonte
As soon as someone says something about, oh, why aren't you wearing your mask?
Someone's going to be like, because I want to get, you know, whatever.
They're going to just, you know, give, give a bunch of lip and it's going to be a lot of confrontations.
ian crossland
I've got a feeling the people, not all of them, but for the most part, if people are scared into wearing masks by TV shows, those are, those are cowardly people.
That's, that's a behavior of cowards and cowards aren't very likely to come out on the street and challenge you for not wearing a mask.
phil labonte
They absolutely, if they're, if they're afraid.
Then they're going to be like, that person is endangering me.
And it's going to be a fear response when they go up to them and confront them.
It's not going to be about asserting themselves for dominance.
It's going to be, you're going to hurt me.
And that's always what the case was when it came to the people that were like, oh, you know, you're not wearing your mask.
It's always like, you should be wearing your mask because you're going to hurt me.
ian crossland
I liken back to 2020.
And I think you just said it.
15 days to slow the spread.
The only reason in hell I would ever lock my country down is because there was some sort of flesh-eating virus tearing through the population.
You never do that to your country unless it is the last-ditch-effort circumstance that you have no other choice.
You lost running water.
You lost soap.
In those situations, maybe.
Because that is the recipe to destroy your country, is to shut it down.
Don't do that again.
unidentified
And don't make people put fucking dirty masks on!
ian crossland
I'm sick of it, man.
I'm fucking sick of it!
I will not do it again!
Thank you.
tim pool
I wonder how many people feel exactly the same way.
serge du preez
Yeah.
unidentified
I agree.
tim pool
Well, you know, we're out in West Virginia, so we came out here because we were in New Jersey, and it started getting really intense.
There was talk locally about shutting down the bridges out of New Jersey, and I was like, I'm leaving.
I'm not going to stick around to wait and find out if I'm trapped on this peninsula.
So we were working on setting up the new studio and we were like, let's just go down early and we'll figure it out and we'll make it work.
The problem was the internet wasn't set up and so we had to use this like janky internet, but I was like, don't know, don't care, don't want to be in New Jersey anymore.
So we came out here and then surprise, surprise, you know, the interesting thing about coming out to West Virginia, we're in the tri-state, which is Maryland, Virginia, West Virginia.
The further you go towards the cities, the more you have to wear masks.
You go into Maryland, they're nuts.
You cross into West Virginia, ain't nobody wearing masks.
I mean, there are some people would, you might see some people somewhere, but for the most part, nobody was.
So I'm just saying, you know, when I say get out of cities, it's not just about whether or not you'll be safe, it's about whether you'll be comfortable.
But if you want to live in those lockdowns, I, I, I, I, look, if the government announces climate change lockdowns, you know all these Democrats are going to be, the Krasensteins are going to make the, the, the, the rational argument on Twitter to engage in conversation about why the climate change lockdowns are absolutely required and why Joe Biden is right to institute them.
They will fall in line in two seconds.
ian crossland
Did they mention climate change lockdowns or is this just an idea?
phil labonte
They're talking about it because if you remember... No, no, no, not the Krasensteins.
tim pool
I'm saying they're an example of they often come out with the establishment narrative and try to make a reasonable conversation about why it's correct.
They don't come out like most libs screaming and like, yeah, why aren't you doing it?
You know, they're just like, I'd like to have a discussion about it.
I mean, I respect it, but I'm just saying they will be doing it.
phil labonte
I am more likely to Decide that a new pandemic is more dangerous and I would lock down for a new pandemic Than I am for a climate change lock.
Oh, yeah, like what it would take actual like I would have to be it would be forced They'd have to be like you you have to leave you can't come in.
tim pool
They'd have to kick me out of everywhere I'm not staying in my house, you know I think the initial lockdowns, the reason why we all gave the benefit of the doubt to the government was because they were talking about this novel respiratory virus with a high mortality rate.
And so we're all like, we gotta figure out what's going on.
Now that hindsight is 20-20, we all look back like, oh, what a waste of time, that was so dumb.
But yeah, we were seeing these videos of people in China collapsing in the street and people were getting scar tissue in their lungs.
I think the alpha strain of COVID was really, really, really bad.
And then what happens is, at least this is how the corporate press has described it, over time the more serious strains cease because they cause too much damage to the host and limit its ability to spread.
Somebody who's so sick they're incapacitated can't spread the virus.
So the weaker versions that start emerging Keep people somewhat active, feeling a little under the weather, and that more easily spreads, so over time, the variants will become weaker, but more contagious, or I guess that's how they described it.
Uh, yeah.
So, at the time, when they were saying, look at what we're seeing, we were seeing very, very serious stuff.
I can respect that nobody knew, and I can say, now we know.
And now we should be more careful about how we enact these things.
That being said, we've talked about it on this show, you brought it up, Ian.
What if it was an airborne Ebola?
ian crossland
That's what I'm talking about.
tim pool
And then we're like, okay, that's actually a really good question.
I still think you have the responsibility to quarantine if you want to.
ian crossland
And I put my faith and trust in our government and our world's governments during COVID because I thought maybe it was going to be a flesh-eating bacteria.
And I was like, I'm not going to play God on this one.
But after the 15 days ended and they kept going for a month, like another 15 days and another 15 days, it was like, and then I found out about the bio labs in Wuhan that Anthony Fauci's involved in.
And I'm like, okay, so they, what, they built this thing and then it got loose.
Is that the story now?
This is disgusting.
I'm not saying there can't be another bioweapon let loose on people, but like, it's not worth destroying the global economy because of it.
You've got to take care of yourself.
Thank you, Tim.
That's a good point.
You have to take care of yourself first.
You need a healthy body.
You need to eat healthy.
You need to get enough sunlight and enough sleep.
You need to get soap and drink enough water.
tim pool
And if you're hearing in the news that they're saying there's an airborne Ebola with a 50% mortality rate, it should still be your choice whether or not you want to go out and go to work.
The government forcing you to stay home is stupid.
They're like, no, you can't leave now.
phil labonte
But again, we're talking about something that's very extreme.
If there's an airborne Ebola, you're going to see people literally bleeding out of their eyes.
It's going to be real easy to make the decision.
unidentified
Ain't nobody going to be like, let me think about it.
phil labonte
Do I need to go get them smokes or not?
No, everyone's staying home.
tim pool
Actually, but you see these open-air drug markets?
These videos out of Philadelphia and Los Angeles?
Like Skid Row and stuff?
Dude, I imagine if there's a pandemic, like a more serious one that gets to that level of like 10, 20, 30 percent, there's gonna be videos of all of these people being like, Yeah, leprosy was nasty.
ian crossland
Before they knew, leprosy was just a bacteria that eats flesh.
Before they had soap, really, they couldn't wash it off.
That's basically the cure.
They would touch people's bodies, and they would get the bacteria on their own skin, and then their skin would start to get eaten.
And they thought it was contagious, so they would quarantine lepers.
phil labonte
Leprosy's not that easy to treat.
I was just reading about it last night.
ian crossland
Oh, cool.
tim pool
I gotta read a Super Chat.
Normally we wait until the end of our Super Chats, but it's too good.
Chaser says, Ian just broke the die to reveal a 21 inside.
unidentified
Yes.
natalie winters
Yes, I love that.
I love how the saying hindsight is 2020 like literally applies to COVID because it literally was the year 2020, right?
I know.
Isn't that weird?
I actually, I can't take credit for that.
I had a hairstylist who was like super hippy dippy and into all this stuff and she was giving me all these sayings.
I was like, oh my gosh.
But I think what enrages me the most and I obviously did a lot of reporting on Anthony Fauci and the bio labs and the Wuhan Institute of Virology Is that this very same group, EcoHealth Alliance, was sort of funneling the taxpayer funds to the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
They have continued to receive multi-million dollar grants from the federal government, even from the Department of Defense, particularly working on, believe it or not, the grants are under the weapons of mass destruction category, sort of in the bioweapon territory.
And they've renewed even that really controversial grant from NIAID, the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, To EcoHealth, the same grant they were working with the Chinese Communist Party-run lab on these, you know, manipulating bat coronaviruses.
And also, it's so enraging because you hear all these Western scientists still sort of championing the crusade of, you know, oh, we need to partner with scientists in China who are all under the thumb of the Chinese Communist Party.
And it just seems like the establishment has not learned their lesson at all when it comes to pandemic prevention.
And I think it goes back to what we were all saying and really what I think is at the core of our frustration With these lockdowns and these mandates is that these alleged people who are supposed to be stopping these pandemics who are in the business of pandemic prevention also concurrently seem to be the very same people who are benefiting when the pandemics hit because when they institute the lockdowns the mandates it just increases their power right it just increases their ability to basically control society
And I think for me, looking at it through, again, my very niche lens of like the Wuhan Institute of Virology and who's funding all these entities, they haven't learned their lesson.
So when you see the same voices on the mainstream media telling us we need to lock down and always ending their segments with the, you know, wagging their fingers saying you need to wear a mask, it's like, No, shut up.
You guys haven't learned your lesson.
I usually don't get fired up, but it's just, these people are so full of it.
And if they think they can do it again, good luck.
tim pool
YouTube has their new World Health Organization policy.
I guess they got rid of the COVID policy and now they're doing the straight up World Health Organization policy where you can't defy them or whatever.
But this will be interesting to see.
phil labonte
That's what YouTube said?
tim pool
YouTube launched their World Health Organization.
natalie winters
Saying the quiet part out loud, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, it used to be the COVID policy and now it's just the WHO policy or whatever.
So we'll see what new rules they start rolling out randomly that seem to make no sense.
natalie winters
And the pandemic treaty, too.
I feel like we're talking about all this with the variable being the Biden regime, right?
But I think the climate lockdowns are something that would probably be instituted, I would argue, more from a global perspective.
I think they would probably emanate more so out of the United Nations.
And if you really look at the genesis, the origins of the concept of climate lockdowns and Combating climate change through mandates and stuff like that.
It's not really a Biden regime idea.
It's more of a United Nations idea.
tim pool
I want to say one thing before we go to the next story.
I'm just imagining that there are some like deep state intelligence agency guys who have to watch the show every night and they just saw Ian snap and now they're all scared like, have we gone too far, dude?
ian crossland
Yes, you have gone too far.
It's not you personally.
Things have gone too far.
It's time to reel it in.
A lot of people feel like I feel right now.
tim pool
Ian's like the barometer for, like, weird middle-of-the-road dude in this country who typically doesn't pay attention and now he's getting angry and they're like, I think we've pushed people too far.
Let's jump to this story though, I love this, from NBC News.
How climate lockdowns became the new battleground for conspiracy-driven protest movement.
Protesters radicalized by their opposition to COVID lockdowns have a new target.
Anti-traffic measures.
So they're already downplaying what the media themselves were saying over the past several years.
There was an article in the New York Times that said because of the COVID lockdowns, the earth was healing.
phil labonte
Yes like that was something that I meant to bring up is like the fact that like in the beginning of the COVID lockdown it's like all of the people that are worried about the environment were just like ooh you know rubbing their hands together like this is our shot if we can get people to lock down we can save the earth and I feel like They might have gotten the idea to lock down and no, actually, I'm not going to say that because they probably had it long before.
So that's a bad idea.
ian crossland
But you think that the two are connected, the climate and the COVID opportunity to lock people down?
phil labonte
No, I think that the idea for a climate lockdown, I was going to say that or pontificate that the idea for a climate lockdown might have got started because of COVID, but then I thought about it and they probably had these plans started previous to that.
So that's why I didn't want to say it.
ian crossland
But yeah, I think, you know, slowing the rate of carbon dioxide production is Okay, but if it's going to destroy or hinder humanity, I think that's the wrong tactic because we can reuse the carbon dioxide particularly to turn it into graphene and other materials.
Reuse the methane also and turn it into carbon dioxide.
phil labonte
My problem with those kind of like global scale plans that people have, if they mess up, You know, you're looking at a death toll in the billions.
ian crossland
You mean if they take too much carbon out of the air, they could kill all the trees and murder humanity?
phil labonte
Well, I mean, I don't know for sure, but like, you know, Bill Gates' plan to blot out the sun.
That is an actual, legit plan that Bill Gates has been talking about.
Like, I don't know if they're talking about...
Uh, using something to seed the clouds and make more clouds, or actually putting some kind of filter up there to block out the sun, but he's talked about it and he's serious.
I think that's a terrible idea.
Blocking the amount of sun that falls on the Earth seems like it only has a bajillion and a half ways that it can go wrong and kill people.
serge du preez
That's the only way to beat the robots, man.
phil labonte
Yeah, right.
You gotta blacken the skies.
We don't know if it was us or the robots.
ian crossland
Also, plant life relies heavily on sunlight.
natalie winters
I also think it's interesting because so many of these agendas, whether it's the World Economic Forum or the United Nations, for some reason, they all have seemed to identify the year 2030 as like their end goal, right?
Agenda 2030.
And even the WEF has their own sort of like iteration of it that also concludes in 2030.
China has their 2030 plan too, they also have a 2025 one, but I think it'll be really interesting, and that's why I think this election really is so pivotal, because I think the world, not just America, will take two very different trajectories, right?
If you have someone like Donald Trump in office, I would argue that agenda 2030 is not going to just get, you know, carte blanche, blank sign-off by Donald Trump to enforce it, whereas if you have someone like Joe Biden, who empirically throughout, you know, the United Nations
and the WHO pandemic treaty, his actions have shown that he's sort of on board with that.
And a lot of his advisors are too. I think you will see two very, very different outcomes for
the world writ large, depending on who wins this this election. And I really, I really think
phil labonte
that even if like someone and I don't really have a I don't really care if it's Donald
Trump or someone else, but if it is Donald Trump, like, I don't think that it's like a guarantee that
he can navigate us through the, you know, the coming tumultuous situation of, you know, the
WEF trying to take over the world.
I think that Donald Trump is just a maybe.
If we go with a Democrat, it's a definite that we're going to do whatever it is that the international community wants.
We lose our sovereignty if we elect a Democrat because they don't They don't push back against the international community.
So whatever the international community wants is what the United States does, regardless of what the American people want.
tim pool
Let me pull this up from Wikipedia just so you understand, Agenda 2030.
This is from Wikipedia, Sustainable Development Goals from the UN.
They say their global goals, or sustainable development goals, are a collection of 17 interlinked objectives designed to serve as a shared blueprint for peace and prosperity.
phil labonte
17's a magic number, Jim.
Jim Lindsay says too.
tim pool
Oh yeah?
For people and the planet, now and into the future.
They say it was formulated in 2015 by the UN General Assembly as part of the post-2015 development agenda.
They say they were formally articulated and adopted in a UNGA resolution called the 2030 Agenda, known colloquially as Agenda 2030.
So, when you hear people saying this, you're going to get the media saying it's one big conspiracy theory, it's all nonsense, and what they're going to do is, they're going to ignore the actual complaints people have about the mission of the UN, and they'll hyper-focus on some random crackpot in an alley who's screaming that Agenda 2030 is trying to steal moon cheese.
And they'll be like, these crazy conspiracy theorists think the earth is flat.
And then the average person who's like, hey, this is a bit alarming to me because we're a sovereign nation that shouldn't be giving over our rights to an international body.
They will omit that from the news reports.
phil labonte
That's the same same type of thing that they did with the whole like Jeffrey Epstein stuff.
And then the pizza place like they they.
Use the crazy guy going to the pizza place to deflect from Epstein actually getting arrested and him actually being found guilty of human trafficking and stuff.
They were using the pizza gate stuff to discredit the idea that there were actually... And everyone knows that Epstein had been found guilty of trafficking, that Ghislaine has been found... He cut some deal.
Yeah, he cut some deal.
tim pool
Early on, yeah.
phil labonte
But everyone knows that that was the situation.
Everyone knows that there have been no names released, and yet people still will say things like, oh, Pizzagate, you know, you're thinking that it's kind of crazy to think that there are people in the government that are pedophiles.
There's multiple court cases that have been found that these people did this.
tim pool
Wasn't like Prince Andrew directly implicated?
phil labonte
Prince Andrew couldn't wear certain clothing at the funeral of the Queen because of his embarrassing the royal family.
Like, he couldn't wear his official cape or something like that.
I think it was military dress.
I'm not sure what it was, but there was official stuff that the prince should have been able to wear.
serge du preez
Yeah, it's like ceremonial.
phil labonte
Yeah, but he disgraced them.
tim pool
Look at this.
Goal number one is no poverty.
That's not possible.
serge du preez
Yeah, good luck.
tim pool
Poverty is relative.
A poor person today has better dental care than Rockefeller did a hundred years ago.
A hundred and some odd years ago.
It's an impossible thing to say.
Zero hunger.
Hold on, hold on.
Let me tell you about it.
ian crossland
You're supposed to be hungry sometimes.
tim pool
I know!
Hunger is a good thing.
It tells you that you need to put food in your stomach.
I'm going to approach this from the view of Ultron, the rogue AI that was trying to wipe out humanity.
How do you end poverty?
They say goal number one is to end poverty in all its forms everywhere.
It would end poverty globally.
One of its indicators is the proportion of population living below the poverty line.
Now, you see, these lefties and these corporate journalists or whatever might see that and say, oh, I get it.
If they give all the poor people more access and money, they'll be above the poverty line.
And then all of the international elites look at each other like, uh, sure.
And what they're actually envisioning is the poverty line is a cutoff point where they excise that portion of the population, and then there's no poor people anymore.
Then they say zero hunger.
Same thing.
How do you get rid of hunger?
Anyone who's hungry, gotta go.
You know what I'm saying?
Good health and well-being.
Anyone who's not, gotta go.
Quality education.
Once again, those who are not getting quality education, you gotta go.
phil labonte
And wait, before you go on, anyone that says that about getting rid of people that are in good health, look at what Canada is doing now with MAID.
Like, when you first hear it, you think, oh, it would never happen.
But if you think real quick, oh, wait a minute, it's literally happening in Canada.
They are encouraging people that are a burden to the system to kill themselves.
This is not far-fetched.
This is not imaginary.
This is exactly what a lot of the NGOs want to see happen.
The idea that nations should end and we should be a global community in a global country or whatever you want to call it.
tim pool
I gotta be honest, like, if you were to look through this, Population reduction does seem to be a general path towards accomplishing a lot of these goals.
phil labonte
Absolutely.
tim pool
Let's think about this.
How do you get rid of poverty?
Well, if we have mechanization and automation, and you remove a large portion of the population through maid or whatever, or through... Degrowth.
Degrowth.
Like, this is the thing people don't understand about this.
They assume, and the media would want you to assume this, that there's a conspiracy theory where the global elites are gonna go around killing people.
It's like, okay, well, maybe with medical assistance in dying, or in death or whatever up in Canada, you have something like that.
But it's really just like, don't have kids, abort your kids, sterilize your kids, take birth control.
That's degrowth.
That is one way to achieve the goal.
It's, um...
Did you guys ever play, we talked about this before, Fallout?
Oh yeah.
I can't remember which one it was, but in the end, one of the endings is, for those that aren't familiar, it's a post-apocalyptic world wiped out by nukes.
There's a gigantic super intelligent mutant being who says, you can choose to, I'll let you go and you can live, but you have to be sterilized so that you can't reproduce anymore because you're old world or something to that effect.
ian crossland
I think that's the first one.
tim pool
Yeah, I think so.
So the general idea is, no, no, you're mistaken.
No one wants to reduce population.
They just don't want you to have kids.
And then in 20, 30 years, population will have been reduced.
ian crossland
Tell me about degrowth.
phil labonte
Degrowth is essentially, so the way that the argument goes is our capitalist society depends on infinite growth, right?
It has to keep growing because we keep having more people, we have to keep producing, and we live on a finite earth.
We live on earth with a limited amount of resources and we are going to use them up.
So, what we need to do is not we have to have a net zero impact on the environment.
So, that means we don't have an impact.
Net zero means a totally zero impact on the environment and you're going to achieve that through degrowth, which means you have to have a contraction of the economies of the countries on the planet.
Your GDP is directly related to your life expectancy.
Every point of GDP that your country goes down, there is a corresponding number of deaths that happen.
So degrowth means population shrinking.
And that is intentional.
Now it starts off, and I'm looking back to the first half of the 20th century, Eugenics and population control and these types of man
controlling society with big plans like like they're talking about here
These these type of programs will start off with one mandate and one one
Idea and they and they grow and I hate to do this because I don't want people to be like
Oh, you know You're everyone compares it but like the stuff that Hitler
did to the Jews in Nazi Germany didn't start off with grab them and throw them into
the into the concentration camps It started with, okay, you gotta wear these patches.
It starts small.
So the idea of we have to do things to contract, the government has to do things to contract, they will start small, and as it doesn't work as fast as they want, And as there are people that will push back, they will continue to up their efforts and you will end up with, I imagine, billions dead.
natalie winters
I think it's also so presumptuous too of the United Nations to just like assume that those are shared goals by everyone.
Yeah, it's so euphemistic, it's couched.
tim pool
They're not assuming that.
phil labonte
They don't care if you want those goals or not.
tim pool
You're in their way.
phil labonte
Yeah.
natalie winters
But no, that's precisely my point.
And it dovetails with what you're saying.
Like, it's not like they're like, oh, we're really just, you know, we're going to wait.
We want to push these on people when everyone agrees to it.
It's like, no, they are actively trying to implement this agenda.
I think they're doing it very discreetly now.
And I think when you look at how watered down the food supply has become in terms of how we grow our crops, how devoid they are of nutrients and minerals, the water supply, I mean, Report after report shows the carcinogenic, the toxic lead and metals, heavy metals, in literally every city, even like out in rural areas.
I really think that that is a new form of biological warfare that I think they're waging on this country to make us fat, depressed, sick, unhappy.
I mean, the levels of magnesium depletion among so many Americans, which is critical to being happy, is so ridiculous.
And I think that that's how they're starting to do a lot of this.
tim pool
I want to jump to this story from the post-millennial.
Donald Trump will be arrested by Fannie Willis on Thursday in Atlanta.
He says, I'll be going to Atlanta, Georgia on Thursday to be arrested by a radical left district attorney.
And in the context of all of this Agenda 2030 type stuff, more so how Democratic politicians agree with climate lockdown ideas and want to stop climate change, those kinds of things.
The future I envision with an unobstructed Donald Trump is secure borders, you having a job somewhere, factories coming back, and kind of the older way of doing things.
What Democrats want, and I mean this literally, I'm not going to use any euphemisms or conspiracies, like literally when they talk about climate change, they want a reduction in fossil fuels.
They don't want factories.
They want to outsource.
They want you to... I don't want to say, oh, nothing and be happy, because that's more World Economic Forum.
But they very much want you to live in your cubicle box and just be told what to do and do what you want.
And many people in cities seem to be completely okay with it.
Donald Trump is an inversion of that.
And for that, he is their biggest threat.
So, of course.
Trump will be arrested.
But we do have more news on this.
A second Georgia lawmaker is seeking the impeachment of rogue District Attorney Fannie Willis.
So with everything we've talked about so far in terms of degrowth and Agenda 2030, climate lockdowns, COVID lockdowns may be coming back.
It is not a foregone conclusion.
There is a very clear path to victory, and I think it is the obvious path to victory, and I think it is the likely path to victory.
I think it is the likely outcome.
Donald Trump only lost in 2020 by a margin of about 42,000 votes in three states.
I think it is unlikely they screwed up this time.
Trump has already said we need a ballot harvesting operation.
They're already being moves made, there's more activism ramping up, and the Democrats don't have the advantage of hard lockdowns.
phil labonte
They need a hundred Scott Presslers is what they need.
And they need to get rid of Rona McDaniels.
That's one thing that I wanted to ask you.
What is your take on Rona McDaniel?
natalie winters
No, I think the RNC loves to fundraise a bunch of money off of well-meaning patriots, use it to use really, really cushy, you know, retreats at five-star resorts and do absolutely nothing.
You buried the lead. No, I think the RNC loves to fundraise a bunch of money off of well-meaning
patriots, use it to use really, really cushy, you know, retreats at five-star resorts and
do absolutely nothing. And I think they spit in the face and they're laughing behind the
backs of people like Scott Pressler, people who are actually doing the work. And I don't
think anyone should give any money to the RNC and look no further than the antics they've
been up to with this whole debate that's happening tomorrow, trying to get Trump to join in on
it. Ronna is a joke. She spends, I think, a lot of the money on lip fillers.
unidentified
Do you? I'm not going to touch that one.
phil labonte
Do you, do you, why do you feel like Trump got behind her?
Or what do you think he was thinking?
Because I think that was probably one of the worst things that he did since he's been out of office, is actually putting his support behind Rowan McDaniels.
She's the, in my opinion, she's the biggest person at fault for allowing the Democrats to just outperform them to out politic them you know it's like on the the the ground game that the republicans had was such an embarrassment compared to the democrats and the democrats run rings around them and it's ronald mcdaniel's fault she was in charge so like where's the accountability you know and what are they actually doing to make sure that it doesn't happen again because
I really do think that the biggest culprit for why Donald Trump isn't in the White House now is Ronald McDaniels and the RNC.
natalie winters
I think it's twofold.
I think in addition to the RNC just being like the abysmal little sister of the DNC couldn't even compete if they if they wanted to.
I also think the DNC has sort of an extension of an apparatus that is the groups like the Center for Tech and Civic Life, right?
The Zuckerberg type groups and we just because we are the right we don't have that and I would argue that independent of the DNC.
I think those so-called nonprofits that really shady dark money apparatus.
Is what allowed Democrats to win more?
phil labonte
So, you're not Ronan, I'm not trying to put you on the spot, but why do you think it is that like... I'm definitely not Ronan.
I know, I'm not trying to put you on the spot, but like so then why do you think it is that like nothing was done?
Like why is it that she Because Democrats have a history of having a better ground game, and because of the fact that they tend to cluster in urban areas, it's easier for them to do things like get ballot harvest.
Why is it that Rona hasn't... Nobody has thought about the fact that this is the way things are.
Why weren't they prepared?
I don't know.
natalie winters
No, I think, you know, it's the same question and the same answer and the same logical just anger that you get when you ask why House Republicans aren't doing anything, anything really meaningful when it comes to the Hunter Biden investigation, to impeaching Joe Biden, to these COVID mandates, to defunding the government.
And I think the issue is it's exactly and precisely people like Ronna Who really, to their core, yeah, maybe they're Republican, but they're not really conservative.
Again, I was going to say Trump supporters MAGA type, but I know that for some people that might not necessarily be what they identify with.
But I think these are people who are very OK with the status quo because the status quo means that they retain their power.
And I don't really think Ronna cares if Republicans lose elections.
I don't really.
I just think she wants to retain her position.
tim pool
Phil, would anybody go watch the Harlem Globetrotters if the Washington Generals won?
phil labonte
I would buy tickets to the next game!
tim pool
It would be interesting, to be completely honest.
But I hate to break this to you, Phil, but the Generals, they're meant to lose.
phil labonte
I mean, you know, I wish that we had a legitimate opposition party.
ian crossland
How about that?
It looked like we were at Turning Point USA, Charlie Kirk, I think they were.
Who was it?
Harmeet Dhillon running against Ronan Farrow?
tim pool
Yeah, Harmeet.
phil labonte
Harmeet was great.
I thought Harmeet was going to win.
natalie winters
And don't forget Mike Lindell.
ian crossland
Oh, they both were?
tim pool
Yes, Mike Lindell was.
ian crossland
The energy in the room was electrifying at Turning Point when we were talking about it.
Harmeet was there and I thought like, of course it's like confirmation bias.
I was like, she's definitely going to win with this kind of support.
It was only like a thousand people, you know?
Of course you get caught up in your own smell, but like then I mean that's the that's the lively Republican base is Charlie Kirk and Turning Point like that's young people.
phil labonte
Yeah.
ian crossland
Yeah, so I just don't know why.
I mean, I don't know if there's malfeasance behind the scenes, and that's why Rana took it, if Rana's just more popular on the global stage, so that's why she got it.
Did they vote money?
natalie winters
Well, I also think the RNC election, right, it's not actually Americans voting, it's people within the confines of the RNC, and I think what you're talking about, right, the disconnection, or rather disconnects between the grassroots activists, actual MAGA-type people, and the selection of Rana, and it's sort of like the same phenomenon Phenomenon, I would argue, with Trump in 2016, where that was the first time there was a candidate who actually appealed to the actual Republican voting base as opposed to the more elite, you know, donor class.
And I think, unfortunately, the RNC, I mean, there's a reason it has the reputation it does for the most part.
And there are some RNC members who are, you know, more populist, who are, you know, come on War Room all the time and are always Willing and down to slam Rana but I think unfortunately most of the members of the RNC because think about how you get to be in the RNC you don't go get to be a member of RNC or the committee men or committee woman if you're like a hardcore outspoken populist type you know doing
Hardcore Trump activism they were against Trump in 2016 So I think you have a lot of holdovers there who again not that it's about Trump as a person.
It's about more than that It's about the strand the stripe of the Republican Party and the voters who get behind him And I think the Ronna Romney McDaniels of the world the elite Republican the country club Republican class has done everything in their power to suppress and quash that stripe of conservatism Oh, well, that makes sense.
Done!
ian crossland
Settled!
You know, Vivek, I was listening to him, Ramaswamy, on Sean Ryan's podcast last night, and he was saying how like, it's really not about Republicans versus Democrats.
It's about the, I guess you'd call it the administrative class versus everybody else.
And they've got this stupid lock and he's like, just you got to fire them.
You've got to cancel the FBI and reposition a lot of the people in other departments and things.
tim pool
We should not have a political class.
phil labonte
I agree.
tim pool
It's weird to me that there's a political class that should not exist.
People who are born and bred and educated for the sole purpose of being in charge of people makes no sense.
I'm sorry, that's how it maybe used to be with lords and stuff like that, but now this is supposed to be a country for, of, and by the people, which means it's supposed to be a person who is running for office.
Here's why, here's my experience instead.
Perhaps only because of the natural tendencies of man.
People who, carpenters, plumbers, electricians, taxi drivers, you name it, astronauts.
It's like, look, I don't want to deal with these policies.
Can we just get someone else to do it?
ian crossland
And that's how it happened in the federal government.
It came from laziness, according to Vivek, when he was on our show, he was discussing this about a month ago, that the people in Congress just didn't want to do the work anymore, so they outsourced it to the What do you call it?
The Federal Reserve.
Yeah, they create these external things to do their work that they should be doing.
phil labonte
That's because if they take votes and they vote on the record, they have to answer to their constituents.
If they pass the buck to someone else, they can go, I didn't do it.
So when Congress people go back to their areas, you know they can be like oh well you know i tried and i told you i wouldn't i've tried to but you know it didn't work so because this is how it goes now it's all about getting the the less they're responsible for the happier they are because it's more likely they'll win their the the re they'll win re-election
ian crossland
So taking responsibility for the actions is a huge part of why they outsource it or why they've been trying to?
phil labonte
That's why they did it with Donald Trump with George Bush when it came to the Iraq war and stuff.
They gave him the authorization for use of force.
They're supposed to declare war.
That's what makes the Iraq war illegal is the Congress doesn't have the authority to give the president the authority to make war.
The president can react.
So the president can send the Marine Corps to save American lives or whatever, but the president can't conduct war.
Congress is supposed to declare war if we go to war.
When Congress gave the president that power, they didn't have the power to do that.
So that means that the President didn't have the power because Congress didn't have the power to give the President the power.
So when the President ordered all the troops into Iraq, it was illegal because he didn't have the legal authority.
The authorization for the use of force is an unconstitutional document.
It was an unconstitutional law.
ian crossland
So is the Federal Reserve Act also unconstitutional legal?
phil labonte
The Federal Reserve Act is unconstitutional.
There was an amendment that I believe was improperly Improperly ratified that was for the the Federal Reserve but the Federal Reserve there there are people that will make the argument that it is unconstitutional because it is not outlined in the in the Constitution but there are also people that are gonna say that the necessary and proper clause allows for it.
tim pool
Let's jump to this story from TimCast.com.
Ladies and gentlemen, TrumpPAC creates 2024 vice presidential debate website trolling Fox News and other candidates.
That's right.
Trump has announced he will not attend the debate Wednesday, and apparently he said debates.
He's not going to do any of them, which airs on Fox News.
Instead, he will sit with the network's ousted former host, Tucker Carlson, for a one-on-one interview.
That's going to be really interesting.
That'll be big.
Well, here's the website.
VP Debate.
phil labonte
What is this?
tim pool
The only person here is Chris Christie.
Oh, okay.
When you format the website, when you shrink the website.
serge du preez
It's like what, mobile format?
tim pool
Yeah, it's like, there we go.
Let's zoom out a little bit.
And Battle for the Vice Presidency.
Look, Vivek's got 55%.
Can I, I can't scroll down here, can I?
I just gotta make it smaller.
serge du preez
That's Battle for Second Place.
tim pool
Yeah, look at that.
The 2024 Vice Presidential Debate and Vivek Ramaswamy's got 55%.
I actually really, really like this.
I'm not gonna watch the debate.
I don't care about the GOP debate.
I would be surprised if many of you intend to watch it.
Oh, this is gonna be... That's on you.
ian crossland
We gotta watch this.
tim pool
We can't.
unidentified
Oh, that sucks!
tim pool
Fox News has explicitly stated they will take anyone down who rebroadcasts any portion of the show beyond a small snippet.
ian crossland
If we do it after it airs, is that okay?
What a ridiculous... Dude, it's democracy!
This is the American Republic!
tim pool
You're supposed to proliferate the data!
There is an argument that it is a newsworthy event.
They cannot!
Make that move.
But Fox News wants to play dirty and assert that they will go after anyone who rebroadcasts the debate, and they don't have Donald Trump.
It was a really easy decision for me to be like, oh well, I don't care.
ian crossland
That's too bad, because this is going to be way more interesting than some crusty old dude sitting down with Tucker Carlson.
tim pool
Trump and Tucker's going to be crazy!
This debate with Nikki Haley talking to Anissa Hutchinson?
ian crossland
I don't care about that.
Rick Ramaswamy's a constitutionalist.
He understands the Constitution and laws and he's gonna school everyone on stage about it.
unidentified
Sure.
tim pool
I'll watch the clips after the fact.
But I don't see... I really don't... Look, man, I gotta be honest.
If it was just Ron DeSantis and Ramaswamy, I'd be like... This'll be interesting.
But I don't care about Nikki Haley.
Come on, Mike Pence and Nikki Haley and we go back and forth is a waste of my time.
ian crossland
Yeah, I would be tuning into this for Vivek.
tim pool
Yeah, but they're not- and he'll probably get more speaking time because he's going to be assertive, but that still doesn't matter.
Are they seriously going to have Chris Christie debating Nikki Haley?
If you did Tim Scott, Rhonda Sanderson, and Ramaswamy, I bet this would be interesting, but the rest of them just make it not worth watching.
ian crossland
This is a lot like 2008 debates, the Democratic debates where, like, Mike Gravel was on the end being like, you bunch of war hawks, even especially you, Joe, and you, Hillary, like he's calling it out.
It was so good.
It was like 12 of them, and they only got like three minutes each, you know, except for Hillary and Barack.
And they gave Biden some time, too.
So they'll probably do something similar with this.
Although I don't know.
I mean, this is like Trump's version of it.
At first I was like, oh, screw Donald Trump, mocking these people, and now I see he's put Vivek—this is basically Trump's way of saying Vivek is the number two guy in the Republican Party right now.
tim pool
Alright, so put a 2 in chat if you think this debate is going to be worth your time.
And put a 9 in chat if you would rather watch Donald Trump and Tucker Carlson.
ian crossland
Here's my issue, and I mentioned this before the show, and I'd like to, I'll reiterate it for you guys and the people listening, is that I was listening to that Sean Ryan interview with Vivek last night.
Vivek was saying how, you know, when Donald Trump was in office and he wanted to end the administrative state, that he wanted to drain the swamp, he didn't know how.
So he asked his advisors, how do I do it?
And they said, you can't.
You don't have the authority because of the Civil Service Protections Act.
You can't fire people in the administrative state.
So Trump was like, okay, just gave up, didn't do it.
tim pool
I'll send them to Alaska.
ian crossland
When Vivek looked into it, he was like, oh, okay.
Well, they told me I can't.
I'm going to go read the law myself.
I'm going to read the Constitution myself, which is something Donald Trump has never done.
So Vivek read it.
He realized, oh, I can legally do it.
Those guys were lying to Donald Trump because they are deep state.
And you can go in and reorganize and reformat the actual organizations themselves, the FBI themselves.
You can gut, you can just terminate the FBI.
You can't fire the individuals, but you can terminate the service and then reposition or lay off the individuals.
And that's like, Donald Trump doesn't read.
I'm not saying he never reads, but he doesn't, he's known for it.
It was almost like he bragged about it.
tim pool
This is why Tucker Carlson and Trump is gonna be so interesting, because Trump gets his opinions from Tucker Carlson.
ian crossland
And from the deep state, apparently, so I don't want to guide it.
That's going to be hilarious.
tim pool
But no, no, no.
Like, come on, man.
90 plus percent of Trump's opinions come from watching Tucker.
That's what he was famous for.
He would tweet something at like two in the morning and you'd be like, yep, he clearly just watched that Tucker Carlson segment.
And so now he's going to be sitting down with Tucker and it's going to be really interesting.
And I want to add, everybody is putting nine in chat.
They overwhelmingly, overwhelmingly agree.
That the vice presidential debate will be a waste of time because there's no reason to listen to Nikki Haley argue with Mike Pence!
phil labonte
It's true.
And also, like, you know, I mean, Trump and Tucker are like the two most popular and most influential names in the conservative side of the aisle.
tim pool
What if the real reason they're doing it is that Trump is going to announce Tucker Carlson as his VP?
ian crossland
Vivek thought Tucker would be a good VP.
tim pool
What if tomorrow it's like this is not actually an interview, it's a discussion about our potential platform.
I'm announcing Tucker Carlson as my vice presidential pick.
phil labonte
That would be kind of hilarious.
tim pool
A slam dunk.
serge du preez
It would be wild.
tim pool
Yeah.
I mean, it's not going to happen, but I wish.
ian crossland
My big problem.
tim pool
Real quick, sorry.
ian crossland
No, no.
tim pool
We always talk about how great this timeline is when silly things happen.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
But if we really were in the greatest of timelines, it would be Trump announcing in that sit down that they're running together.
phil labonte
It would be hilarious.
unidentified
Right.
phil labonte
It would just be like, what just happened?
ian crossland
I don't get the Trump thing anymore.
I don't get it.
He wasn't the worst guy on earth at all.
But like, he doesn't read the Constitution.
Why would you want that guy in charge of your military?
Barack Obama was a He was a lawyer, like a litigator.
He understood the Constitution inside and out, and so does Vivek.
phil labonte
The only reason that Barack Obama knew anything about the Constitution is so he could make laws to get around it.
He looked at the Constitution as a bad thing because of what it does, which is inhibit the federal government.
Barack Obama, as a constitutional lawyer, is not a good thing.
It was so that way he could defeat the Constitution.
He was not a friend of liberty or a friend of limited government or a friend of the Constitution.
His knowledge of the Constitution was exclusively so that way he could circumvent the limits put on the government by the Constitution.
ian crossland
Well I think he learned about it before he became president and then once he got in there he definitely got co-opted by the deep state.
phil labonte
I'm not doing that.
I'm not arguing that.
So this goes to two different ways to look at the Constitution.
So the conservatives look at the Constitution and they call it a dead document.
It doesn't change.
You look at it, that's what it says, that's what it means.
Barack Obama and progressives believe that it is a living document.
Actually I think they're liars and just making an excuse so that way they can get around
the limiting factors in the Constitution.
But they say that it's a living document.
What that means is you take what it says and you think about today and you think, well, what is going to be best for today and now?
And then you say, well, that's what it means, which is a friggin lie.
And the reason you know it's a lie is because if the founders really wanted the Constitution to be interpreted, they wouldn't have put an extremely difficult and stringent method of changing the Constitution in the friggin Constitution.
tim pool
I want to add this too.
I can't speak for every Trump supporter, some people genuinely think he's the best ever, I just think he's a rampaging bull.
That he's like, just an angry bull, and he's going to romp about and just wreak havoc in the bureaucratic state.
But then they're like- But hold on, hold on.
Now, now that sounds pretty good to a lot of people.
Bucks and then kicks the door open and they're all going like oh Jesus like the bull rampaging around and jumping on the sofa And they're freaking out now imagine Vivek Ramaswamy is rodeoing with that bull riding on the back of it And he rides in using that bull to bring in some effective policy That's why I'm like, I don't know if Vivek would be VP, but that'd be fantastic.
Even Tucker.
The original selling point of Ron DeSantis was everyone was like, he's the VP, he's the guy, because he's younger, tactful, and more procedural.
He's a little bit more dry, a bit more boring, but that makes him a better VP.
It makes him one of the best VPs.
And then he decided he was the big dog and was gonna run a campaign into the ground, and now he's just a...
Not out of the picture.
Vivek ran the campaign DeSantis should have run, and now Vivek is in the prime position.
According to this vice presidential debate, 55% of people are like, Vivek, man, I think a Trump-Ramaswamy ticket would be absolutely incredible.
ian crossland
I like the bull metaphor, I do, of Donald Trump, because he's in there, he doesn't know which direction to turn next, he's just smashing what he thinks he's supposed to smash.
And Vivek's like a wizard with laser eyes that has surgical precision where he goes in, evaporates areas of walls and structures that need to be evaporated while leaving the rest.
He knows what he's doing.
tim pool
Can someone draw a picture of, like, Vivek as a wizard with a wizard staff and an angry bull with Trump's hair storming into, like, government?
You know, that would be the greatest comic Someone make that on AI.
The bull is just rampaging around as the deep state bureaucrats are running in panic.
And then Vivek is making filing cabinets disappear.
ian crossland
Yeah, it's his surgical precision that I appreciate.
The whole like burn it all down mentality is just it got people fired up in 2016.
It angered so many people with its vagueness.
And then you get a guy that comes in there who's specific about how he's going to dismantle the deep state.
I see no other path than the specific dismantling at this Here's the other thing, too.
tim pool
That one gamer just superchatted.
Larry Elder is not on the debate stage.
He is substantially more relevant than, say, like... I don't know, Asa Hutchinson.
I don't even know who this guy is.
Bergen?
He was... Bergham?
phil labonte
Larry Elder was just at a breakfast club with Charlie McIntyre.
tim pool
Doug Bergham!
He's polling well enough to be in here, but Larry Elder isn't?
ian crossland
That's wild.
phil labonte
I like Larry Elder.
tim pool
I know, Larry Elder's fantastic!
serge du preez
His, like, first words about Donald Trump, too.
ian crossland
His first words were about Donald Trump?
serge du preez
Yeah, Burgum.
ian crossland
Oh, like he's complaining about Donald Trump?
serge du preez
No, we're thankful for President Trump, but his first words are about Donald Trump.
Like he's still in the conversation regardless.
ian crossland
How many of these people are going to lackey for Trump?
How many of these people, what are there, eight of them?
How many of them do you think are going to mention Donald Trump's name in the debate?
tim pool
This website is praising Trump.
They're taking quotes from these people praising Trump on purpose.
It's not hard for Vivek.
I think that's funny they got what, Ron?
Ron says, I think Donald Trump has done a better job appointing judges to both the U.S.
Supreme Court and Appeals Court than any other president in my lifetime, including one of my heroes, Ronald Reagan.
unidentified
Ooh, yikes.
ian crossland
It's a special kind of ego to make a website like this.
tim pool
It was made by a PAC, not by Trump.
unidentified
Oh, OK.
tim pool
Right.
People who support Trump made this.
phil labonte
But to be fair, whatever kind of ego you're going to go ahead and talk about, Donald Trump has it.
ian crossland
It's just so disgusting.
I mean, this is intimating that these people are beneath him.
It's disgusting.
phil labonte
They are beneath him!
ian crossland
No, they're not.
Vivek is what's trouncing the psychological debate.
tim pool
Fair point.
Yeah, Vivek, I would say, he's a younger guy, but he's on Trump's level in a lot of respects.
I think in terms of the... like, Vivek is not I don't know how to describe this.
Trump has that chieftain kind of like, ROAR, like pounding on his chest.
You know, Hulk smash kind of thing.
phil labonte
It's kind of an 80s bravado with Trump.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah.
But Bavaik doesn't have that.
ian crossland
No.
tim pool
But Bavaik has other powerful qualities that I like.
phil labonte
Yeah, like being smart.
tim pool
Yeah, like he's tactful, he's procedural, he's surgical as Ian pointed out.
He is in many ways a balancing force for Trump in the way that we thought Ron would be.
phil labonte
He's just not as hilarious as Trump.
He's funny, but he's not as hilarious as Trump.
The shirt off playing tennis was funny.
ian crossland
Oh yeah.
phil labonte
I laughed.
ian crossland
He's been playing tennis since high school.
phil labonte
It was funny.
tim pool
I don't think it was meant to be funny.
phil labonte
I don't know, but it was hilarious.
unidentified
Just him, like... I wanna know who he was playing with.
ian crossland
That motherfucker's not real.
Who was he playing that with?
tim pool
But the funny thing about that clip is it didn't show the actual game.
unidentified
It was just a clip of Vivek going... It was just Vivek with his shirt on.
ian crossland
Lightning speed slam.
phil labonte
I love it.
ian crossland
Was it his wife?
Was he playing with...?
tim pool
No, I don't know who advised him to make that video, but... I appreciate it.
unidentified
Thank you!
ian crossland
I'm starting to see Vivek's wife get involved.
Apurva, is that how you pronounce her name?
She's a doctor?
Operating doctor?
I'm not sure exactly.
natalie winters
I thought you were the in-house Vivek expert and Vivek fan.
You should know that.
ian crossland
I'm a huge, huge fan of the intelligence.
In fact, I don't even like him.
I like what he's doing.
I appreciate how he is working the system.
He just reminds me of my high school friends, kind of.
Middle America, Ohio.
He's an Ohio guy.
Reminds me a lot of my buddy Ted Kortler, class president.
Like, go get him.
Go get him, V. Like, I always knew you'd be president, man.
natalie winters
I think with the exception, maybe, of Vivek, just because I know a lot of his campaign is to some extent self-funded, or just let's see, right?
I do think that the other people who are on that stage, I know you said, oh, Donald Trump thinks they're beneath him.
I honestly do think that those people are beneath Donald Trump, and this is why I say that, because those people who are running have absolutely no chance of winning, and it is all just an exercise, I think, to divert a lot of money that could be put towards Much better, securing the ballot, securing your vote initiatives for Republican candidates.
And I think the worst part, when it comes to people like Ron DeSantis, the Tim Scotts of the world, that is just one grift operation for the consultant class that I think runs a lot of the Republican Party.
And if you want to get into really what the issue with the RNC is, and more broadly, the Republican Party, it's the entrenchment of these consultants who have absolutely no idea what grassroots activists are into and or care about, whether they don't know or they just pretend not to care.
And all of those people who are running It's just an operation to make those people a bunch of money.
I think that critique lands particularly well with the DeSantis campaign.
But like I said, you have someone like Donald Trump, who the administrative state is waging, I would argue, full-blown warfare.
You're talking four indictments, you name it, against him.
And to see these people adding on to the charge against him, I'm not saying that, you know, someone can't be challenged, that Donald Trump is a king.
But I think in the historical context and the level and gravity to which the deep state is assaulting him right now, for these people to be piling on against him and having us divert our resources away from really securing the general election, I think that does mean that those people are beneath him.
tim pool
I agree.
But let's jump to another story about someone who's absolutely beneath Donald Trump, and that is Joe Biden.
In this story from the Postmillennial, they say Joe Biden appears to fall asleep during meeting with Maui survivors.
Now, I know, I know.
All of these news outlets, they're trying to be very careful over litigation.
They don't want to say that Joe Biden did fall asleep, despite the fact that on video he appears to fall asleep.
And they say appears to fall asleep.
I am just going to say this.
Upon review of this video, which I'll play for you here, Joe Biden is falling asleep.
I mean, I think it's fair to say he appears to be falling, to have fallen asleep.
I am going to say, I believe Joe Biden fell asleep.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Charlie Kirk says, octogenarian Joe Biden seems to be falling asleep while meeting with survivors of the Maui fires.
Yep.
He just like pops up.
Look at this.
He's like, Oh, this is funny.
His eyes slowly open.
phil labonte
He's like, wait, he might've died for a second.
ian crossland
Wow, he definitely just woke up there.
tim pool
Yeah, he's sleeping, okay?
I think it's fair to say he appears to be sleeping because we want to be precise.
ian crossland
When you sleep, you do appear to be sleeping.
tim pool
I'm gonna say outright, yo, that guy's asleep.
Yeah, when you sleep, you do appear to be sleeping.
Yo, he fell asleep.
I'm not mad at Joe Biden for falling asleep.
ian crossland
He's working long hours.
He's putting in 10-hour days.
He's a busy 80-year-old.
tim pool
No, no, no, no, no.
I am not mad at Joe Biden for falling asleep.
I am mad at the people who voted for him.
unidentified
80-year-old man says, I want ice cream!
tim pool
You're like, OK, Grandpa.
I want ice cream!
Fine, I'll get you ice cream.
Then he takes a crap in his pants, and everyone's got to smell it.
And it's like, dude, I'm not mad at the old man who's trying to live his life and wants to live his best life.
I'm mad at the people who enabled someone who was incapable.
Uh, better yet, not the poop-to-pants thing.
Let's say, 80-year-old guy with really bad vision goes, I WANNA DRIVE THE CAR!
And you're like, no, Grandpa, the 67 Corvette, you should not be driving, you're gonna get in an accident, I WANNA DRIVE!
Okay, fine, you can drive, and then he crashes it.
It's like, okay, come on, man.
At a certain point, loved ones need to be like, Joe, come on.
ian crossland
He's the cash cow.
If your rich grandpa's like, I'm gonna drive!
And you know he's not healthy for it, but he's like, he's the one that's giving you your monthly allowance, so you're like, we have no choice.
If we don't let him drive, he cuts us off.
serge du preez
That's exactly it.
Wow, he's a big guy, dude.
That's amazing.
tim pool
Just let him be president.
He's paying the bills.
ian crossland
Even if the pedestrians are at risk, just let him drive.
phil labonte
Now they're like, if he's the president, our checks are gonna get so much bigger than when he was the vice president.
serge du preez
Yep.
tim pool
Triple.
Quadruple.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
So I saw this story.
I saw the video of everyone flicking him off in Hawaii.
It's crazy.
They're all screaming F you at him as he drives through because $700 ain't doing nothing.
Some guy was holding up a sign saying the people of Ukraine got $1,700 if you break down how much money was sent to Ukraine for the war and the people of Lahaina only got $700.
Joe Biden is a corporeal body that Democrats needed to go up against Trump.
That's all he is.
And so of course he's falling asleep.
People voted for this.
They were like, I'd rather have this than Donald Trump throwing paper towels to people.
Are you kidding?
I'd rather have Trump there throwing paper towels to people.
At least paper towels you can dry stuff, you can wipe your hands with.
Joe Biden sleeping is nothing.
It's negative.
unidentified
It's chaos.
ian crossland
Yeah, it's a puppetry.
And I think that's a lot of what this administrative class wants, is puppets.
I think Vivek was talking, I keep bringing him up, but they were talking about Sean Ryan.
Great, great episode, by the way.
Sean Ryan, spectacular interviewer, about how John Fetterman.
Like, what in the hell?
They put a guy with brain damage from a recent stroke into Congress?
tim pool
Did you see the picture of him?
ian crossland
Because they need a puppet.
phil labonte
Well, not only that, but the thing is, he's immune.
ian crossland
No, I'd like to.
phil labonte
He's kind of immune from criticism.
So, if you attack John Fetterman, Then they're gonna go ahead and say, well, you're attacking someone that's disabled.
It's ableism for attacking him.
And it's like, wait a minute.
Is it too close?
serge du preez
No.
phil labonte
Oh, the mustache?
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
The mustache is looking spelled.
Shaved and put glasses on.
phil labonte
I honestly think that's a better look.
ian crossland
I probably would like the guy if I knew him one-on-one, but man, why would you put someone like that in Congress?
tim pool
I'd probably like him if I was able to actually communicate with him and understand where he came from, but I think that time has long since passed.
I'm not saying to be mean, I'm saying the dude can't communicate anymore.
Like, you watch these videos and the Democrats are clapping for things that are incoherent.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, the Democrats, the person doesn't matter, whether it's Dianne Feinstein, who just had her handler tell her, just say, yay, because she started talking about something that was a non-sequitur or something.
Whether it's this guy, whether it's Kamala Harris, who can barely complete a sentence.
ian crossland
Mitch McConnell.
phil labonte
Joe Biden.
ian crossland
Mitch McConnell had like a brain fart stroke, no one knows, in the middle of giving a speech.
phil labonte
Yeah, fair enough, fair enough.
There are old people on both sides, so fair enough.
Yeah, Mitch McConnell, he should get out of the turtle.
But the point, I think the point that I'm making, though, is the left doesn't really have a whole lot of Look at Dianne Feinstein!
opinions on it. They're all very in lockstep. So it doesn't matter who the
person is because... Look at Dianne Feinstein. Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
What is it, her daughter has power of attorney? Yeah. And it was really
funny, she was gone for what, three months? Her daughter has power of attorney and
phil labonte
for some reason she's allowed to stay in her seat. That means that
her daughter has to make all of her choices for her... Her daughter has the position.
Yeah, her daughter technically is probably the unelected Congresswoman.
tim pool
I don't know what the deal for sure is, but... Feinstein was out for, what, three months, was it?
And then she was like, I've been here the whole time.
ian crossland
I just don't know how to do it peacefully, legally, to remove the old people and put fresh, intelligent young people in.
phil labonte
You don't have the ability to affect Dianne Feinstein because you're not her constituent.
tim pool
Constitutional amendment.
phil labonte
Well, possibly, but you're not her constituent.
You know what I mean?
You couldn't do anything about her.
The only thing we can do is We could get some kind of constitutional amendment that says you have either a age limit or there's some kind of test or, you know, cognitive test or whatever.
But because of the way that our government is set up, you don't have the ability to do anything about Fetterman in Pennsylvania because you're not his constituent.
You know what I mean?
So you writing to his, you know, office like being like, yo, you should resign.
They'll be like, well, who's this clown from Maryland?
You know, or whatever.
They wouldn't care.
So.
natalie winters
I also think that in the case of Joe Biden, that the DNC and Democrats were really drawn to someone who is so, I was going to say out to lunch, but I think that's too nice a term, but someone who is just so not there.
Because when you contrast him with, you know, Chieftain Donald J. Trump, I think they really hated Trump in part, policies aside, because he was a strong man, right?
In other words, a bull in a china shop, you didn't know what he was going to do.
But implied in that is that what he wanted to do, he had an agenda, he had an idea.
You couldn't, and I'm sure we would disagree on this, but you couldn't easily manipulate him to the extent that you could just get Joe Biden to, like, do anything.
And I would almost argue the fact that the Hunter Biden hard drive, all the compromising business deals, in some way that was like the insurance policy that they wanted on a candidate like Joe Biden because they know that they could control him.
And I think that's why they're so drawn to these politicians who are just so, like, listless vessels, I'll use a quote.
unidentified
I like that phrase.
natalie winters
Because they're the opposite, right?
Thesis antithesis of Donald Trump.
It's a lot easier to control someone like that.
And I have to say, just to juxtapose what went on in Maui today, and it goes back to my point about the strongman with what you see going on at the BRICS summit right now, the Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa.
I mean, talk about an abdication of America from the world stage as you see all these various deals, energy deals being pursued not in the US dollar, but in petrodollars and really the de-dollarization of the global economy.
It's because of actions like that from Joe Biden.
It's the absence of a strong man, an actual figure on the world stage who has I mean, I would say vision, but actually just has the brain cells to, like, create vision internally, that I think is why you're seeing, really, America just fall into utter, utter chaos on the world stage, and these other countries really overstep, so it's... They should send Federman to Hawaii.
He would maybe do a better job?
unidentified
He would.
natalie winters
Definitely would.
tim pool
That's the point.
natalie winters
Yeah.
tim pool
He would be saying incoherent things, but he'd be awake.
What else can I say?
It is an absurd reality for this country when the man who can't read, or I'm sorry, he can't understand words being said to him and struggles to speak would do a better job than the president who fell asleep.
serge du preez
Yeah.
ian crossland
He also, Joe Biden went down there and in true Joe Biden form started talking about how he understood what they were going through because he experienced something very similar.
phil labonte
His kitchen, oh my god, his kitchen caught on fire one time and that was the, the I know what you're going through.
Oh, I know that your child burned alive one time.
My kitchen caught on fire and boom, my kid died of brain cancer.
tim pool
I have a cat.
unidentified
We almost lost that cat.
tim pool
I don't care to rag on these like singular statements that Biden makes and things like this where everyone's like, I get it.
He's garbage.
And I'm just kind of like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, to be fair, you could pull quotes from every president and be like, that was a bit tactless.
My bigger concern is he fell asleep.
serge du preez
Yeah, it's like his overall condition is really waning.
tim pool
You can make a mistake in a blunder by saying some stupid story, and I can pull up any president anytime who had a quote that was not so good.
But come on.
The dude can't stay awake.
ian crossland
It was Hawaii time, so it was three hours earlier.
Let's be kind.
phil labonte
No, let's not.
He was in Hawaii.
ian crossland
Oh, I'm being fully sarcastic.
It's not three hours.
tim pool
It's substantially more than three hours.
It doesn't matter.
If you can't do the job, don't ask for it.
If some 100-pound woman is like, I'd like to be a firefighter, I'd be like, can you carry a 150-pound person up and down the stairs?
ian crossland
I will push.
tim pool
I got no beef with women, but I'm like, come on, this job requires you to save someone's life.
ian crossland
I'll push the button to have Joe Biden resign and have Kamala Harris become president right now.
I would love that.
tim pool
I gotta be honest, I think Kamala would be worse.
phil labonte
No.
tim pool
Yes!
You know what she's gonna do?
Okay, I would rather have a president sleeping than to have Kamala Harris go, fire is bad and I'm here because of fire.
And everyone's going to be like, what?
ian crossland
That's an interesting argument.
Would you rather have a vacant non-president or a bad president that's like ruthlessly evil and horrible?
tim pool
Because, check it out, Chris Fetterman would be there and he would do better than both of them, not by much, but he'd be like, fire!
People get hurt!
Fiberglass, the fire!
And I'm like, well, I can see some indignation in his voice and he asks people to get hurt, so I'll take that.
phil labonte
Water!
ian crossland
On fire!
tim pool
Yeah, Kamala, she would say, I love those quotes from her where she's like, children are the community because the community has children.
unidentified
And you're like, I believe in children.
ian crossland
But I mean, having a president that's asleep at the wheel is gotta be worse than a psycho, I'm not saying Kamala's psycho-evil, but like, it's gotta be worse than having a psycho-evil president.
phil labonte
She wanted to keep a man, a man that was, that she had evidence that she knew that he was innocent.
She kept him on death row.
Yes, she is evil.
ian crossland
Do you know what that guy's name was offhand?
phil labonte
No, not that man.
ian crossland
But I'd rather have evil And aware and awake and alive and intelligent than stupidly... Why do you want smart evil as opposed to dumb evil?
Well, as opposed to nothing.
Smart evil or no president.
I'd rather have a smart evil president than no president.
Joe Biden's falling asleep.
unidentified
Like, where's his relationship with Russians?
ian crossland
Where's his relationship with the Chinese spy balloon?
Where's his relationship with the disaster relief for Maui?
phil labonte
If he's not doing anything, he's not messing anything up.
tim pool
Yeah, but then there's just... It's all incoherence.
unidentified
Yeah?
tim pool
And chaos.
serge du preez
I don't know what's better.
tim pool
A sane, rational, I don't know, like Marcus Aurelius type?
phil labonte
Well, I mean, obviously Marcus Aurelius is like, you know, he's one of the greatest in history, you know?
ian crossland
I think because our country has such checks and balances that I feel like an evil president would get overridden a lot of times by the rest of the branches of government.
phil labonte
No, I disagree, I think... You mean the kind that would start a war that killed a million people in the Middle East?
tim pool
Yeah, the evil ones get away with it because the evil ones bribe those beneath them and the good ones don't.
And so the good president says, no, no, we can't do that, we can't go to war, and they say, we gotta remove this guy, he's costing us money.
The evil one says, go to war and I'll give you a cut.
And they're like, yes.
ian crossland
I'd like to see in chat if you would rather Kamala Harris type a 1, Kamala Harris type a 2, Joe Biden type a 4.
Which one do you want as president right now?
tim pool
Let's jump to this next story.
They are trying to smear the good name of Oliver Anthony.
This guy who wrote the biggest song in the world, Rich Men North of Richmond.
And we got a couple of tweets, there's more than just these going around.
Because he gave a statement to Griff, I believe it's Griff Jenkins over on Fox News.
Let me play the clip for you first that people are sharing.
Here you go.
unidentified
I mean, we are the melting pot of the world, and that's what makes us strong, is our diversity, and we need to learn to harness that and appreciate it, and not use it as a political tool to keep everyone separate from each other, you know?
tim pool
So that's the clip they're showing, and this guy, 9mmSMG says, accent disappeared, say the line, diversity makes us strong, clap.
Still have yet to find a single person to explain to me how diversity is a strength, explain to me how a cohesive unit is less functional, anyone.
Looks like he got the call from the rich men north of Richmond.
We then have this one where they said, Oliver Anthony, quote, we are the melting pot of the world and that's what makes us strong, our diversity.
Such a letdown.
Did he sell out already to the rich men north of Richmond?
They are trying to smear this regular guy, a working class guy, calling out the fat cats and the elites with a, with an out of context quote.
I'm going to show you the full quote.
He said, I don't see our country lasting more than another generation the way we are headed.
We have to go back to the roots of what made this country great in the first place, which was our sense of community.
We are the melting pot of the world, and that's what makes us strong as our diversity.
We need to learn to harness that and appreciate it and not use it as a political tool to keep everyone separate from each other.
First of all, if you thought this guy who wrote this song was going to come out and just agree with literally everything you said, then you were mistaken.
More importantly, the dude is saying exactly what we say all the time.
One, community is the most important thing.
That's why we're doing this coffee shop.
That's why we want to do Saturday morning cartoons, we call it, where we bring families together.
He says we have to go back to the roots of what made this country great in the first place.
Absolutely.
We talk about this all the time.
Everybody who championed his song, there's no reason for anyone to pretend that they're outraged over him saying this.
We completely agree.
This is the antithesis of wokeness.
Woke people are like, the country is inherently evil.
unidentified
Since 1619, the slavocracy has ruled supreme and white supremacy must be destroyed.
tim pool
And here's a guy saying, no, no, we got to go back.
We got to go back to what made this country great.
The idea of diversity, I'll explain it for you.
Diversity does not mean that you take a whole bunch of people of different backgrounds, isolate them from each other, and then tell each of them that they're all their enemy.
Diversity is what the melting pot truly was.
When you came to this country, you melted into it, meaning you became part of the greater culture.
Oliver Anthony is correct.
I like this guy.
ian crossland
Me too, man.
Diversity, for instance, very literally, would be like if you have a bunch of short people, and then they can't get the fruit out of the tree, they die off.
Now you have a group that's a bunch of tall people.
They can't get into the hole in the ground to catch the rabbits, so they starve, they all die off.
Now you have some tall people and some short people.
The short people go into the holes, the tall people get the fruit.
tim pool
I love this story.
ian crossland
Diversity is strength.
tim pool
This is awesome.
It's completely wrong, but right in so many ways.
unidentified
It is great.
tim pool
You don't catch rabbits in the holes.
unidentified
But you can.
tim pool
And tall people can still catch rabbits, but your point is 100% correct.
ian crossland
And skin color, not necessarily the color, but our ancient genetics can make us more or less resistant to sickness, like certain bacterias and viruses.
So if a virus comes through and wipes out a lot of one ethnicity or one cultural background, the others are spared and the species survives.
tim pool
Listen, listen.
It's called hybrid vigor.
Yeah.
There was this study that I read a while ago.
It shows that people who have kids with people from the further away your partner is as a point of origin from the planet, the better their child's immune system may turn out to be.
And I'm like, that's really, really fascinating.
That is the American melting pot idea of diversity.
That two things come together and become one.
But more importantly, What he's saying with community is melting pot.
That means when an immigrant family comes to the United States, they don't create their isolated little pocket community where they don't speak English.
They integrate.
They melt into what America already is and are underneath our cultural umbrella.
ian crossland
And then you get, like, Chinatown in New York, which is, you know, Chinese.
tim pool
San Francisco.
And it adheres to our rules and our laws and our constitution.
ian crossland
And they end up, for the most part, learning English.
I mean, that's why they move to America, is to learn English and become part of the culture.
phil labonte
So he's, like, there's the people that are criticizing him.
It seems like, and this is an assumption, but it seems like they're people that are Expressing that they feel like he's not right enough like not right wing enough like he is a plant Leftist because he's saying the quote-unquote leftist buzzwords things like diversity, but I think the guy's just not an extremely online dude Right like we all see you know the term diversity and there's all kinds of things attached to it comes with a ton of baggage because of the way that the left uses it because of
What the term diversity means according to scholars and the way that it, the discrepancy in the definition versus the way that the left tends to apply it.
So there's all that stuff attached to it, right?
But if you're just a normal guy that goes to work, And, you know, writes a song.
The idea of we should have a diverse country is something that you, especially like his age, that's something that everybody kind of grew up with.
The idea that everybody comes to America and, or the people that come to America, everyone can be American.
You come here and it's the melting pot and blah blah blah.
That's something that has been an integral part of the United States' story, you know, for the vast majority of our history.
So I think that he wasn't, I think that it was just a situation of he is kind of a normie, and people are applying a lot of extremely online context to a guy that doesn't, is totally unfamiliar with it.
unidentified
I love it.
tim pool
You know why?
He's a normie.
He said very normie things.
Fat cats in Washington, they're bad.
Fat people on welfare are exploiting our taxes.
And the left attacked him, and the right cheered for him.
That says a whole lot about what these factions are.
The Democrats are the party of the wealthy elites, and they were offended by what he said.
And the right is a disparate group of people of varying ideologies, for the most part, that are anti-establishment, anti-woke, and generally agree to disagree.
When we do this show, the left calls it right-wing despite the fact we have people of all different political backgrounds having conversations.
So this guy represents just a regular dude.
He lives in a trailer.
He's down south in Virginia.
I love his videos.
He's got one where he's in front of a river and he's just playing the song Ain't Got a Dollar and I'm like, and the train's going by and he's gotta wait for the train.
phil labonte
That's super cool.
tim pool
Just a regular dude who wrote this song that had some good lyrics.
I wish politicians would look out for minors and not just a minor on an island somewhere.
He kind of just hit the nail on the head with the hammer with a lot of the stuff.
I like folk, so for me it's easy.
But I think a lot of people, when you watch him perform and you see the people in the audience nodding along to it, he's speaking to just regular people.
serge du preez
That's the thing I don't understand is why people are getting mad at him when he's like, they're like, oh, most people are pretty, you know, middle, middle of the road.
Most people think like pretty, pretty center of the way ideas and everyone's mad at him from, well, not everyone, but some people are mad at him on the right.
Like we've just seen here and people on the left are mad at him.
It's like, this is what most people think.
Like you guys should all be championing him because this is what most people think.
He's the American.
tim pool
And I'm not so sure that he is, uh, it's funny.
They call him Anthony, even though his name is Chris was a Lunsford or something.
phil labonte
Yeah.
serge du preez
Yeah.
tim pool
Is it Lunsford?
ian crossland
Chris Anthony Lunsford is his name.
tim pool
They call him Anthony because Oliver Anthony is his stage performance name or whatever.
ian crossland
He's his grandfather.
tim pool
But I gotta tell you, I don't think he's super politically active.
He says he's a middle-of-the-road kind of guy, but he's also the kind of guy that was activated by Donald Trump.
A regular guy who's just like, you know what man, let the Molotov cocktail bowl in a china shop go.
A lot of people that I met in 2016 when I went to all of Trump's campaign rallies were exactly like this guy.
They told me that they were not Republicans, they hated Republicans, they were not conservative, but they hated the politicians, they hated the political establishment, and they just wanted Trump to do something.
ian crossland
Dude, Trump gave people fire to, like, break up the deep state.
He was so excited about draining the swamp and it didn't happen.
He put John Bolton in and he got all these weirdos involved and didn't do it because he didn't know how or he believed the liars like he believed the...
I just... But he did light a fire under people's ass.
Like, he woke people up that there was an administrative state.
I think most of the United States people didn't even realize that we were being run by bureaucrats at the time.
So I will give him that.
And maybe, yeah, if he woke Oliver up, that's a huge deal.
tim pool
I don't think he woke up Oliver individually.
I'm saying it's people like him that are considered the forgotten demographic when it comes to voting.
natalie winters
Whenever Trump says, you know, they're not coming after me, they're coming after, you know, the people who support me, the people who sort of are behind me, I think this whole story is sort of an example of that.
You know, you just detailed how his rise really is an entire FU, not just to like the music industry, but just to the establishment as a whole, what he sings about.
Who he is just as a person.
So it's like they have to character assassinate him.
I don't know if you guys saw, but they had pulled up some old like YouTube videos that he had liked trying to allege some crazy conspiracy theory.
So I think this just goes to show how it's like, you know, must destroy Oliver Anthony because he represents everything that we oppose.
And I think it goes back to what we were talking about earlier.
You know, they love to artificially create all these divisions, whether it's the race, the gender, the sex, you know, I'm sure I don't have to To enumerate all those for the people who watch this show, but I think the biggest lie in terms of division that we've been sold really is Republican and Democrat because I think that orientation of the world is just, is so wrong because it's people like Oliver Anthony and it's people, it's basically the people who listen to Oliver Anthony's music and feel like they have a voice in what he's singing about and the people who listen to his music and are like, oh my god, he's singing about me.
And I think that's sort of the line that represents like the two factions in this country.
Maybe faction is a harsh word.
But they have to destroy him because he represents everything they hate.
tim pool
Well, I think the factions, many people describe them in many different ways, the two parent factions, but it's really just, are you in the cult or are you not?
serge du preez
Yeah, 100%.
tim pool
That's just all it is.
Because like, you know, there was this viral video going around where a dude's wearing a Biden for resident shirt or something like that.
And he's talking to two liberals who don't realize he hates, he doesn't like Joe Biden.
And he's asking them questions.
And then whenever he just says something about Biden that is bad, they're like, that's not true.
Where'd you hear that?
And he's like, he's like in the news.
And then it was funny.
He was like, well, Biden's taking bribes and engaging in corrupt business.
And they're like, where's your evidence for that?
And then he lists off all of these things that have come out.
The IRS whistleblowers, the Burisma video.
And like, he just keeps going.
And then they're like, I don't believe any of that.
It's just like, okay, you're in a cult.
serge du preez
Belief.
It's belief.
It's the word.
It's right there.
They give it to you.
ian crossland
When you were saying we were talking about diversity, that term that he used, diversity, and we talked about this before the show a little bit, that what's happening is, I don't want to say the communists, because it might not just be communists that are doing this, but people are twisting definitions in the modern age.
Definition of the word feminism, definition of the word diversity, definition of equity.
phil labonte
That's all the communists.
That's all communists.
ian crossland
Yeah, the definition of the word pandemic.
The Spanish flu was a pandemic.
I didn't see that happen to people this time during COVID.
But, uh, so if you buy into the twisted definition of the word diversity, you're going to fall into this, like, thinking he's a bad guy.
Because you believe the enemy's twisted definition of your own material.
Like, don't buy the bullshit.
Don't fall into the game of the twisting of language right now.
tim pool
Don't believe the communists.
ian crossland
Yeah, is it just communists?
It probably is.
tim pool
It's people that want global communism.
phil labonte
They share, the communists, right now the left more broadly, but they share our lexicon, but they don't share our dictionary.
No, exactly.
They use the same words that we use, but the meanings that they apply to them are different.
And some of them, when you're dealing with the more consequentialist type, they will use both meanings.
So, for instance, they'll use The term, like they'll say racism, like if you talk about racism, they'll say, well, that's not racism because racism is prejudice plus power.
Right.
But then later on in the conversation, they'll use the term racism and they'll mean bigotry.
So they'll use both definitions, which puts the person they're talking with at a disadvantage because they're literally confusing them intentionally because they're not looking to resolve the the conversation or they're not looking to to to converse
with someone they're not looking to collaborate they're looking to prove the
other person wrong dunk get a you know the clipper pressure yeah but they're
not looking to collaborate an idea that produces something that is
actually productive they're looking to compromise yeah there's a funny video I
tim pool
just saw where guys basically saying you can't be liberal and punk rock
anymore because liberal is the establishment
And he's like, so basically to be punk rock, you have to be conservative, which is kind of funny.
And he goes, I know a lot of you are going to say, yeah, but they're Christians.
And he's like, well, but that makes you the bigot.
Hey, we're gonna go to Super Chats.
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And, you know, so earmuffs for your kids, maybe put them to bed.
And then we take your calls.
You guys call in and talk to us and the guests.
But let's read your Super Chats.
phil labonte
All right.
tim pool
I'm not your buddy, guy!
With the first Super Chat says, I rarely agree with Ian, but he is right yesterday.
Now is the time for civil disobedience.
We cannot allow these mandates to come back, not only for the economy, but for society's sake.
Nonviolent civil disobedience is the key.
There is several ways to go about victory and procedural.
We need more Scott Presslers.
We need more voter registration.
We need ballot harvesting operations where legal.
And we need people to, when appropriate, engage in peaceful nonviolent civil disobedience.
And you have to be very, very, very tactful about it.
I'm very, very careful and very, very planned.
These leftist organizations have been doing this for decades.
They have lawyers.
They have multiple legal observer nonprofits.
They plan these things out months in advance.
You can't just show up and wave a sign.
You've got to make sure you're doing everything by the book.
All right, I'm not your guy, friend, says, we need a new drinking game for every time Biden falls asleep on camera.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
Ready to Rumble says Oliver Anthony just uploaded a new song.
I want to go home, it's called, and it's amazing.
It is pretty good.
Richmond, north of Richmond is... It really is his best, but I really do like Ain't Got a Dollar.
Uh, you know, I'm just, I just, I'm a big fan of acoustic folk kind of music.
So, uh, not big on country, but the overlap is easy enough for me with this here that it's, uh, it's, you know, I dig it.
Fatty Tang says, shout out to Dave Smith for his new comedy special.
unidentified
Ooh.
tim pool
Yeah, check out Dave Smith's new comedy special.
We should get him in here.
unidentified
Yeah, definitely.
tim pool
That'd be great.
We will grab some more Super Chats.
HSDisturbed says, how do we get independent media closer to these politicians and elitist a-holes?
The mainstream media won't ask the questions that need to be answered.
Tell Luke Rudkowski to get back into the game!
You see, Luke used to be running up to these guys and asking them questions, and we need a new generation of Luke Rudkowskis who are doing that groundwork.
ian crossland
You can also, if you seem aloof, they'll invite you to come hang out with them, because they'll actually believe you are part of them if you seem, like, aloof enough.
So that's a lot part of this jester character that I have created and stuff, like, oh, I'm just having a fun, loving, like... They'll invite you in, and then you can work from the inside.
tim pool
Here's a good one.
MJ the Bemjay says, I work at AMC.
We just replaced all of our Bud Light with Yingling.
Let's go.
phil labonte
Nice.
unidentified
Nice.
tim pool
Right on.
Heron Gaming News says, I bought the Appalachian Nights brew.
I must say it was well worth the two week wait.
I'm watching this while sipping on cast brew.
ian crossland
Dude.
unidentified
It's good.
tim pool
Appalachian Nights is my favorite coffee of all time.
I could just, every morning I'm just like chugging it.
It's so good.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
This morning I had rides with Roberto jr.
Which is also really really good, and I think what we're doing now is We're going to be doing ReRise with Roberto Jr.
as a limited seasonal run.
I'll have more information on it, but it's custom art, and we're doing 5,000 of them.
And that's it.
We're going to do it one time, and then we're going to prepare a bunch of specific blends, promo ones.
We'll always have the originals, but what I'm really looking forward to is, I think we briefly talked to Alex Stein about this.
But we're also getting ready.
We're starting the initial phases of Alex Stein 99 Primetime Grind 2x Caffeine.
ian crossland
I'm drinking that for sure.
tim pool
Yeah, I kind of felt like that's appropriate for the Alex Stein.
phil labonte
You brew it with Red Bull?
tim pool
I don't know about that.
That might break your coffee maker.
And then we're working on the Seamus blind as well.
We have the art going for that.
And I really think this is a really cool way to go about Marketing, teaming up with other people, giving them a cut.
It's collaborative.
They get a percentage of all sales that goes to them and then they have their unique blend through us and we do it that way, a collaborative way to build up.
And then when we launch the physical location, it is their shows that we will have.
So you might walk in and see Alex Stein's video playing and then you see his coffee right there ready to drink.
phil labonte
That's cool.
tim pool
Yeah.
That's what it's all about.
We gotta confirm that with Alex Stein, though, but I'm really excited.
It'll be really funny to see him, like, go to Plano, Texas before, like, the city council or whatever he does, holding up a bag of coffee with him on it and being like, Why am I on this bag?
What happened?
unidentified
Who did this?
tim pool
Just Say Something says, way to go, Timcast.
You got the YouTube COVID badge of truth tonight.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
Also, HeartNatalie.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
There you go.
unidentified
Thank you!
serge du preez
Code in the title.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
Yep.
That's right.
That's right.
You put that in the title.
ian crossland
Update from the earlier vote, Kamala or Joe Biden for president, and, like, everyone said Biden.
I don't think anyone said Kamala.
Maybe a few people did.
I missed it.
But, uh, that's shocking.
tim pool
Just a Dad says, Ian just rolled a million twenties.
Joshua says, Ian just rolled a 21, how is this possible?
God of War says, new Primal Ian is awesome, get angry, hell yeah.
ian crossland
Yeah, sometimes.
natalie winters
It's all the working out.
tim pool
Primal Ian coffee blend.
ian crossland
Yeah, Primal.
tim pool
And he's like, urgh, his hair's floating.
ian crossland
Primal Ian.
Just get, like, a picture of my back.
We'll be on the back, just, like, the muscles of my back.
tim pool
For this last week, before the final shoot, we're having Ian drink a pint of Ben & Jerry's every night.
ian crossland
Oh, God, no, no.
We did change the course.
It's a good week, though.
I'm gonna be doing just raw cream and milk.
It's really good.
I don't think so.
I don't even need it because it's already sweet.
The milk's sweet.
tim pool
No, no, no.
That cream thing in the fridge you're talking about?
ian crossland
I did have some of that too.
I mixed all three together.
tim pool
Yeah, there's maple in there.
That's ice cream mix.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So what that is, it's raw organic cream with raw organic milk.
Raw organic vanilla, I don't know if it's raw, it's vanilla extract from a farm, with raw organic maple syrup.
So it's just like nature right there for you.
ian crossland
I've been supplanting my diet with a company called Factor.
They do pre-made ready meals.
You guys are awesome!
I love Factor Meals.
What a great, great company.
Ready made, two minutes in the microwave.
And it's not, obviously microwaving is not the best, but when I'm, I gotta eat a lot.
So it's just like, grab, go, grab, go, grab, go.
Every Monday I get a big delivery.
tim pool
Yeah, maybe we do an order for the, for everybody.
ian crossland
Spectacular.
tim pool
They're so good.
Go in the fridge and grab one if they want.
Because we do that with, uh, with another company that actually sponsored us one time, I think.
ian crossland
And Factor, I will shout you guys out every night on this show.
I mean, Tim obviously runs the ads and stuff, but yeah, I shout it out because it's good.
And it is so healthy, so delicious, and then I put a big lump of sour cream on top.
Let's get back to Super Chats.
unidentified
Right on.
tim pool
I like the Super Chat from Chase that says, Ian just broke the die to reveal a 21 inside.
That's awesome.
unidentified
Explodes.
tim pool
Paul Fongam says, I live in Texas, every now and then I see someone still wearing masks entering stores while everyone else has no- Yeah, we're frozen completely.
Oh, there we go.
And it just came back.
serge du preez
Dude, Callan says F. Oh, that was weird.
ian crossland
What's up guys?
tim pool
Callan says F. Yeah, in the chat, so like- It'll pop back in a second, I wonder where it'll pick up.
Hey look, we're back!
unidentified
We're back.
tim pool
It's whatever.
We're like near the end of the show, right?
ian crossland
Did you hear Tim reveal it?
tim pool
Yeah, people are saying YouTube shut down.
ian crossland
You were just about to compliment me, man.
What happened?
That sucked.
tim pool
No, this was not on YouTube's end.
We can tell if it's YouTube or us.
This time it was us.
ian crossland
Oh, cool.
tim pool
But when I say us, it's like nothing here.
I think something happened somewhere in the wilderness.
Maybe like an animal got electrocuted and shuts the internet off for a second.
ian crossland
Crow landed on an open wire somewhere.
tim pool
Yep.
unidentified
Maybe.
ian crossland
What were you saying?
You were saying something awesome about me.
unidentified
What?
phil labonte
You're super sweet and wonderful.
tim pool
Oh yeah, Logan Doherty says, Ian's I'm effing sick of it clip is gonna be meme gold.
ian crossland
Oh, oh dude.
That's like true.
phil labonte
The Postmillennial retweeted it too.
tim pool
Oh, did they?
phil labonte
Yeah.
I'm going to retweet it right now.
tim pool
I hope the Postmillennial makes a lot of money off of reposting our clips.
ian crossland
That's a good, I was like, when you, I was feeling it and I ran out of breath and I just keep kept talking.
If you're, if you're angry and you're running out of breath, keep talking.
Don't take a deep breath.
You don't need it.
tim pool
I was, I was thinking about this.
Like, there's a bunch of people who are like, I made this much money on Twitter or on X or whatever.
And then I saw a lot of people saying like, yeah, I take clips from, you know, Tim Castellaro and I post them, I'm making money off it.
And I was like, that's kind of a good thing.
Like, I don't, I'm not mad about that.
Like, if people think that they can take clips from this show and post them to generate lots of traffic and it makes them money, that's free advertising for us.
phil labonte
That's a win, yeah.
ian crossland
Extreme deal.
And for humanity.
I want to make a song that's like a number one hit.
tim pool
I'm like, everyone share the clips, share the clips, make more.
And then you'll get paid on Twitter.
ian crossland
If we could create a song or a TV, like a song that's one of the best on earth and then make it free for everyone.
Like no one owns it.
And all these people will clip it and remix it and make movies with it.
And like, that's all that matters is that it's there.
tim pool
You know, I wrote a song, you know, a new one.
It's called Poor Men South of Portland.
And I'm really excited for it.
unidentified
Haha.
tim pool
Cause I went to Portland, Maine and you know, it just got me thinking.
These actually, you know, it would be a really funny parody song called poor men south of Portland and it's not poor as in Like lacking money.
It's these poor politicians who are being smeared by these awful MAGA fascists Yeah, and it's just you sing the song from the perspective of Rainn Wilson and his other Democrat elitist buddies There you go.
Clint Torres says, if there's an airborne Ebola, it's going to get in your house just like COVID did.
Yeah, but the idea is like don't go out and seek it, but ultimately it's just you make the choice, man.
phil labonte
You'll get in your house, not mine.
tim pool
Like, if there was lava in the street, like, imagine every single street in every city turned to molten lava.
And they were like, sorry, you can't leave your house because there's molten lava outside, but that's my choice.
serge du preez
You literally can't at that point.
If it's literally lava.
tim pool
Yeah, you would be, like, your house would burst into flames.
serge du preez
You can't leave the house, yeah.
tim pool
I'm just saying it was a major disaster.
I think it's funny when there are storms and everyone evacuates.
You don't really have to, but you should.
You know what I mean?
It's prudent.
It's prudent.
Maybe they do.
I don't know.
I'm pretty sure there's a lot of areas where people will just stay and then they're like,
okay, but there's no rescue for you.
You know what I mean?
phil labonte
Yep.
There's times when there's floods that they do that.
They're like, okay, look, everyone get out, everyone get out, and if you don't leave, when the actual, like when hurricanes move through, when the hurricane's moving through, there is a certain amount of time when they're like, you're on your own, we can't get to you while the hurricane's, you know, coming.
After the hurricane, we might be able to, or when it dies down, or whatever, you know, but there are times where the government's like, you're on your own, and they will let you know when that happens.
tim pool
Gunner Anderson says, Tim, I stayed for Hurricane Ida, Category 4.
There was massive amounts of heavy rain and tornadoes that ripped through my yard.
Tropical storms and low category storms are just a drizzle.
Anything beyond that, Category 2, hold on to your britches.
Yes!
I was talking about this when I was in Sandy and Irene.
I think they were both category ones.
unidentified
Like nothing.
tim pool
Irene was funny because it was just cloudy and windy.
And it was just windy and like there were tree branches in the street and I'm like... How long ago was Irene?
Oh, this was 2012 maybe?
No, no, this had to be 2010.
phil labonte
Okay, that was a while ago.
tim pool
Yeah, maybe 2010.
Let me look it up.
phil labonte
While you do that, I want to give a shout out to Vosch's dad, who's in my mentions, mad at me because I dunked on his kid.
tim pool
2011.
unidentified
Really?
ian crossland
Did you dunk on him really good?
Is that why?
phil labonte
Because I pointed out the whole, like, Vosch has this clip out there where he goes and he... I criticize him a lot for being a consequentialist.
There's this clip out there where Vosch goes and he says that I don't want to lose for socialism, I want to win for socialism.
What he's saying is I'm going to lie and be dishonest because I don't want to lose, I want to win.
Yeah, win at all costs.
And I put it up there and I criticized it.
And then Vlach's dad is like, don't pick on my baby boy.
tim pool
He's that baby boy?
phil labonte
No, he didn't really do that.
But I mean, when a dude comes in to defend his adult dad, his adult kid, who's a millionaire streamer, and the dude rolls in because he's mad because I criticized his kid for admitting that he is a liar.
Bro, get out of my mentions, dude.
unidentified
Beat it.
tim pool
You know, I gotta be honest, man.
The left makes a lot of really good points.
They really do.
I typically loathe... I say typically, but you hear me out.
When I encounter your average wealthy person, they are not pleasant people.
And I gotta tell you, when these leftists complain about white people, here's the reality though.
They're talking about themselves.
Like, these upper crust urban white liberals.
It's like, bro, everything you say, you know what, fine, have it.
That's you, dude!
serge du preez
Yeah.
tim pool
Like, Vosch is describing himself.
phil labonte
Yeah.
There ain't nobody that's more white supremacist than, uh, that woman that wrote White Fragility.
serge du preez
Yeah, it's like, when they talk about the Nazis, they're talking about, like, the people that are wearing black, or marching in the streets, all chanting one thing at the same time, like, all have one main ideology, they're trying to impress on everybody else.
Huh, interesting.
Okay.
unidentified
Let's grab some more Super Chats.
tim pool
What do we got?
Dylan Bellew says, Ian, can I borrow that jacket for one of my best friend's wedding Saturday?
Rollin' 20s.
ian crossland
Homie, if I could, if you were here, I'd let you grab it.
unidentified
Wha?
Wha?
ian crossland
Phil hears what he wants to hear.
tim pool
Sergeant Buck says, I'm against poverty.
Okay, great.
Can you find me someone who is actively in favor of poverty?
phil labonte
Depends on who you're talking about.
There are people that I want to see poor.
tim pool
These poor men south of Portland.
What do we got?
Steven Sanders says, Tim, I was arrested December 12, 2022 in Florida.
Three hours in handcuffs.
I share Ian's passion.
I'm a retired veteran in love with freedom.
Right on, right on.
Where are we at?
Someone making fun of Fannie Willis, that's very funny.
What do we have?
The Squid says, don't forget that the original language hidden in the Affordable Care Act allowed for euthanasia of the old with the likely intent to move on to disabled people or people with mental health issues.
Well, it's happening in Canada!
So, you know.
ian crossland
Oh, I'm just rolling a stone around in my head.
phil labonte
Doesn't look like that on camera.
unidentified
Oh, no!
ian crossland
Don't clip it!
Don't clip it!
phil labonte
Definitely clip it.
Sorry, Phil, what were you saying?
I think that you should be able to end your own life without worrying about...
Any kind of legal issues.
But the problem with that is the government can't help but try to encourage people.
The government can't help but be horrible.
It's like, if there is a horrible outcome, expect the government to do it.
They're going to test syphilis stuff on people.
They're going to test drugs on people without their knowledge.
They're going to do all kinds of nefarious, horrible shit.
That's why you can't let the government have it.
You gotta keep the government as small as you can.
ian crossland
That's why we the people are the government in this country, this experiment.
You cannot put the power in a small group of hands because it always becomes corrupt throughout the history of time.
So this is the experiment.
We govern ourselves.
Join in.
tim pool
Alright, Christopher Grover says, seeing Andy Ngo's victory yesterday gave me a lot of hope as a Portlander.
Maybe there's still hope for this city.
We're not beaten yet.
I mean, maybe.
People gotta stand up, they gotta vote, they gotta push back.
If Portland went Republican, I would not be surprised.
I wouldn't.
There's an element of surprise, I could say, like, wow, it finally happened, but the reality is...
Hearing what's been going on there, I wouldn't be surprised if a bunch of regular local residents were just like, please make it all stop.
But I think the reality is most people just leave, abandoning the city instead.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, the people that have the means to get out, like, there's not a whole lot, especially considering, there's not a whole lot holding people in one place anymore, especially considering the fact that COVID and the lockdowns and stuff, That one gamer says Larry Elder is filing an emergency injunction to get on the debate stage after meeting the requirements and still being denied.
I'm curious to watch this play out.
remote is an option for some for more people I think than they realize.
tim pool
That one gamer says Larry Elder is filing an emergency injunction to get on the debate stage
after meeting the requirements and still being denied. I'm curious to watch this play out. Thoughts?
ian crossland
Love it.
tim pool
I think they're claiming that, uh, one of the polls he used was affiliated with Donald Trump, therefore he's- it's no longer- it's not valid or whatever, but the only issue is that, like, Trump's campaign sponsored a poll, which is what everyone does.
You'll see a poll, and it'll say, like, ABC News, Ipsos, or whatever, like, and it's because the news organization will go to them and say, hey, we're gonna pay for you to do this poll.
The polling is then done, and it's in conjunction with.
Yeah, I think, uh, Larry Elder should be on the debate stage.
unidentified
Yeah, I agree.
tim pool
Where we at?
Griffin Street Studios says I signed up with my state's RNC today to gather votes in coming months.
Stop what you're doing and join me.
Can't expect anything.
Take action now.
Jason Static says Trump Vivek team shirtless 2024.
I don't know about Trump shirtless.
ian crossland
Yeah.
phil labonte
Actually, no, I want to see Trump's shirt.
This would be hilarious.
tim pool
Shadow Zeroes says, Vivek is Bruce Banner to Trump's Hulk.
That's actually pretty good.
You know, I hear that.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Here we go.
Jadrick Penifer, Jadrick Penifer says, fantasy politics draft.
Trump as president to be the aggro meat shield, Tucker as VP to have more tact, Vivek as Secretary of State to have actual power over policy, and RFK Jr.
as Attorney General because his litigation history shows he'll go after the corrupt.
Well, okay?
serge du preez
Yeah.
It's a pretty good roster.
tim pool
Hopefully.
Saddle effing Trump says, come on Tim, Biden did poop himself in front of the Pope.
He probably did.
You know?
Oh, we got a good one, I like this one.
Where is this, uh... Rosa Morata says, that's not Fetterman, look at the ears.
I just want to explain to people how depth of field works.
So, if there's a photo taken for a portrait of John Fetterman, it's going to smash his face and widen it out, and if you use a different kind of lens, it will narrow the face and the ears, so it really just depends on the lens.
But I saw that going around, and I was like, look at his nose, look at his forehead, look at his eyes, it's Fetterman.
It's like, I shouldn't even have to say that, you should be able to look at it and be like, oh yeah, that's John Fetterman.
You know?
Where are we at?
All right, let's see.
Russian Colluders is not sure if things change with skate contests, but if they won't take your $20,000, you should host the first annual Roberto Jr.
Memorial Skate Tourney.
Well, we do have some developments.
I don't know for sure, but for those that aren't familiar, I posted that I'd be putting $20,000 towards a local do-it-yourself skateboard jam session and contest in Martinsburg, West Virginia.
They have rejected the money.
And so, I don't want to step on anybody's toes here, but I'm assuming, I guess, the people of Martinsburg, West Virginia, and the skateboarders who are planning on coming down, don't want the money, don't want the $20,000 in prizes.
So, I'll have more information tomorrow when I figure out what's going on, but we may just cancel it outright.
Because if the organizers are like, don't bring your $20,000 to our event, I am not going to fight anybody over me giving away $20,000.
But, in the meantime, we decided whether this happens or not, we're going to do our own event anyway.
And it's going to be total DIY random.
We're not going to do any kind of like putting up tents and getting speakers.
Literally, we're going to do an event where we have prizes and we just show up one day to one of these parks and we'll tell everyone where it is.
It may be in a week or two.
So it's looking like You know, for whatever reason, these people who run this DIY plaza don't want $20,000.
I can't tell you why, but I don't know.
phil labonte
You can always find out who wins and then the following week just show up at their house.
tim pool
Well, that's what I was saying.
I was like, for what purpose would they be like, no, don't bring your money here?
Because if I just showed up, they would be like, here's the guy who won.
I could write him a check and be like, here's the prize.
So it was just like, when they were like, we don't want your money.
I'm like, okay.
I don't know, take it up with the skateboarders who are there.
If they didn't want the money, then far be it from me to tell them they have to take it.
ian crossland
My only guess is if they were like, oh shit, a guy on the internet just announced that we're here and that we're gonna get a thousand randoms.
This is not good.
That's the only thing I can think of that they would say no.
I could see saying no to that if Mr. Beast shouted out my local little- That's your only guess?
serge du preez
The only guess?
tim pool
No, I completely disagree with that.
I mean, you mentioned that it could be political, but it doesn't strike me as- I completely disagree with that because typically what happens when someone contacts you and says, we have an offer for sponsorship, you say, what are the details?
ian crossland
You don't say no.
Did they know it was announced online?
Because there's a lot of people listening.
tim pool
But either way, I mean, the response typically is, hey, like if Mr. Beast reached out and said he was going to do something, it's like, hey, really appreciate it.
Like, what'd you have in mind?
Here's what we could do.
Here's what makes sense.
Here's what doesn't make sense.
Hey, we can't do it that way.
We can do it this way.
But the outright three person messaging one of our guys, a definitive, like, no.
At the same time, three different people associated with the event.
I'm just like, okay.
Like, all right.
I mean, I don't know what the reason is.
ian crossland
It would be badass if you still got those people the money, the skaters, that'd be awesome.
tim pool
I'm not gonna show up to someone's event when they were like, how dare you give money to the locals?
ian crossland
Yeah, don't even go, don't even mention that you gave it to them.
tim pool
Nah, we're gonna mind our own business and just say, okay guys, fine, whatever.
ian crossland
Slide that money into their bank accounts.
tim pool
No, we're just not gonna do it.
Like, there's gotta be... If these are the guys that are running the space, and they're outright like, get out of here, then I'll buy land next door, we'll build our own DIY park, and then we'll do our own event.
It's like, you do your thing.
We're gonna build our own thing.
Whatever.
Skateboarders can ask... Anybody who's going to that event, you can ask them what the issue was, I guess.
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
Whatever.
Alright, here we go.
Michael Beacon says, John Fetterman looks like he's in witness protection.
Like he's going to say, no sir, I'm not John Fetterman.
I'm John, uh, I'm not John Fetterman.
I'm John Fetterman.
By the way, thanks for the shoutout Friday.
Seven Legions issue three coming soon.
Glad to hear it.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Where we at?
Do Not Infringe says, The Republican Party embracing financial conservatism eliminated morality from the equation and made the love of the root of all evil an acceptable position.
Hence, a Republican Party that props up candidates that are for sale.
ian crossland
The love of money being the root of all evil, I think is what you meant to type there.
unidentified
The word money didn't come in.
tim pool
Money is not the root of all evil, the love of money is.
Rock bras says the BRICS Bank president is the former Brazilian president Dilma Rousseff. Oh, really? Wow.
She wrecked Brazil Brazilian economy further than Kovac.
There's no chance for BRICS guys Wow, yeah, I mean look after we can't even keep the lights
unidentified
on so I heard that China's in dire straits as well No, they're not doing too hot after that flood and the way
ian crossland
they diverted everything into and they locked their entire economy down
Yeah, we kind of shut stuff down, but they just shredded themselves
serge du preez
So look at Shanghai everyone that was like Shanghai was like New York of China and everyone that lived there
That was not from China, which is like a large population of like expats. They don't live there anymore. They all
unidentified
left. So Yeah
tim pool
All right.
Greg Duvier says, Doug Burgum is North Dakota governor.
He is a good governor, but he would not be a good president.
No idea why he's running.
Yeah, I didn't even know he was.
It's like, I don't know every single governor, and I have no idea why I should be interested in hearing him argue with Nikki Haley.
What is this?
It's insane.
It's completely irrelevant to American politics.
I can't imagine.
Are people going to watch that debate?
serge du preez
I don't know.
tim pool
Okay, so do you guys know that there's the lesser-known candidates debates?
serge du preez
Yeah.
tim pool
There's like a famous viral video of Vermin Supreme.
There was a Democratic debate and he glitter bombs one of the candidates.
And these are like Democrats who are running for president, but no one cares who they are.
The lesser-known debates or whatever.
So there's this tiny room.
phil labonte
I always wanted to go back to the Democrats.
tim pool
But my point is like, this debate Fox News is doing, is like, it's like, it's like watching, um, The Return of Jafar, right?
You know, you go to the movie theaters to watch Aladdin, and you're like, wow, this is a Disney classic.
And then, later, they have a made-for-home VHS called Return of Jafar.
They're like, okay, you know, the kids might want to watch it, but it's not a big, billion-dollar production in movie theaters.
phil labonte
And they get impersonators for the, uh... Right, they can't, exactly.
tim pool
Like, it's not really, you know, Robin Williams didn't reprise his role as Genie, and they got a sound-alike, and, you know.
And that's what this debate is.
It's just like the lesser known candidates who are not going to win.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
What is the point?
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natalie winters
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tim pool
Right on.
phil labonte
I am Phil Labonte.
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All over the internet.
ian crossland
Yo, Ian Crossland, checking out for the night.
Had a great night.
Good to see you again, Nat.
Always a pleasure.
natalie winters
Thank you.
ian crossland
And remember, you stand up for your rights so you still have them tomorrow.
serge du preez
Nice.
That crystal did Ian so much power today.
It's cool to see, huh?
phil labonte
That's what it was!
It was the crystal!
ian crossland
Luke Brutowski, dude.
Yeah.
unidentified
He's inside me.
tim pool
Luke charged the crystal up with that powerful energy.
serge du preez
I mean, think about it.
It's like the way Luke normally acts on the show, too.
Like, I don't know.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
That wasn't intentional either.
That's just real.
serge du preez
Yeah, for real.
tim pool
Luke is like sitting in his room right now with a crystal ball and he's like...
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