July 27, 2023 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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| Donald Trump has been indicted. | ||
| And you're going to love this, everybody. | ||
| He's being indicted by the Biden DOJ for trying to wipe a server. | ||
| I kid you not. | ||
| It is beautiful irony. | ||
| And I'm just I got to be honest, I'm very, very glad they did it. | ||
| Because, you know, it's only going to be a matter of days, maybe maybe hours until Hillary Clinton gets indicted for actually having her server deleted and phone smashed with hammers. | ||
| Now, I suppose the reason they're indicting Trump for this is so they can make the argument that, hey, you claimed for years that wiping the server was a criminal act and here's Trump trying to do it. | ||
| Now you have to be against Trump. | ||
| But it actually does the inverse. | ||
| Now I'm going to be like, you said no reasonable prosecutor would bring charges against Hillary, so clearly you are not reasonable prosecutors. | ||
| Right now we got this big story about Hunter Biden. | ||
| They tried sneaking in an unprecedented blanket immunity deal for Hunter on all charges and the judge caught it. | ||
| Yeah, see, this is what they're doing. | ||
| The Biden DOJ, corrupt as they come. | ||
| And we're watching it happen in real time, so we'll talk about that. | ||
| Plus, ladies and gentlemen, Anheuser-Busch is laying off hundreds of people. | ||
| This is crazy. | ||
| That's how bad it's been with Bud Light sales. | ||
| So, winning the culture war. | ||
| Before we get started with all that news, my friends, I also got some more news. | ||
| If you go to castbrew.com, support the show by buying our coffee. | ||
| You can join the Cast Brew Coffee Club, where you'll get three different bags every month. | ||
| There's the ground and the Holbein version. | ||
| I hate to say it, but we sold out in a day? | ||
| I think it's a day? | ||
| Mr. Boca's Pumpkin Spice Experience sold out. | ||
| Stand Your Grounds, Medium Roast, Whole, and Ground have completely sold out. | ||
| So, wow, thank you guys so much for buying our coffee and supporting the show. | ||
| We will work as quickly as possible to get that restocked, but... | ||
| Could take a couple weeks. In the meantime, you can buy any of the other blends. We've got | ||
| Unwoke Decaf Sleepy Joe, and of course, I gotta tell you, if you haven't tried Appalachian Nights, | ||
| you're missing out. I think it's the best coffee I've ever had. But man, I don't even think we got | ||
| a sample of the Pumpkin Spice yet. We've had the initial production line where we got it, | ||
| and we formulated it and tasted it and everything. But we put this up like a day ago, and y'all | ||
| bought every single one of them. We're gonna have to get that restocked. | ||
| But thank you so much for supporting us by buying our coffee at Casper. | ||
| We sponsor ourselves because we have to build that parallel economy. | ||
| Don't forget to also go to TimCast.com and click that Join Us button. | ||
| We're going to have a members-only uncensored show coming up at about 10 p.m. | ||
| And as members, you can call in, you can submit questions to call in and talk to our guests. | ||
| The reason why I think it's gonna be so great as we talk about the parallel economy is that joining us today, smash the like button, is the Harman Brothers. | ||
| These are the guys behind Sound of Freedom's distribution and Angel Studios. | ||
| Do you guys want to introduce yourselves? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Neil Harman. | ||
| I'm a co-founder and CEO of Angel Studios. | ||
| You can carry the mic around with you. | ||
| Oh, great, great, great. | ||
| Yeah, Neil Harman, co-founder and CEO of Angel Studios. | ||
| And I'm Jeff Harman, also co-founder. | ||
| And there's another Harman brother back there. | ||
| We just don't have enough space, so we got another Harman brother. | ||
| There are three more. | ||
| There's three more? | ||
| There's too many! | ||
| Too many Harman brothers. | ||
| But you guys are the founders of Angel Studios. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| This is amazing. | ||
| Parallel Economy. | ||
| We've got to build our own spaces, build our own culture. | ||
| You guys just had a smashing success with Sound of Freedom. | ||
| We're big fans, so... | ||
| Right on. | ||
| Do you want to mention anything about the studio so people can understand and get started? | ||
| So Angel means ownership. | ||
| Angel investors were the first to invest in Broadway, right? | ||
| They were the ones who made those shows possible. | ||
| And it's the same thing here. | ||
| We've got over 100,000 people who've invested in the shows that we've done. | ||
| Dry Bar Comedy, The Chosen, Tuttle Twins, Sound of Freedom. | ||
| The people are bringing these shows to market. | ||
| Right on. | ||
| Well, it's gonna be fun. | ||
| We certainly will talk about that. | ||
| There's this funny article from Vox where they said Sound of Freedom is as dark and dangerous as child trafficking itself, which is the most psychotic and insane thing. | ||
| But I love it because Sound of Freedom was originally owned by Disney, right? | ||
| It was made by Fox, I think? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And then you guys secured the distribution rights. | ||
| Is that how it went down? | ||
| Yeah, so Fox originally made it, then Disney acquired Fox, and then the producer Eduardo Verastegui, who was here, he managed to get it out of Disney, and then we got the rights. | ||
| Who knew that Fox was so into QAnon? | ||
| I know, it's crazy! | ||
| Can you believe it? | ||
| And Disney! | ||
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Wow! | |
| They did it before it was a thing. | ||
| They invented it! | ||
| We also have Hannah-Claire Brimelow hanging out. | ||
| Hi, I'm Hannah-Claire Brimlow. | ||
| I'm a writer for TimCast.com. | ||
| I'm so happy to be here with you guys, and Ian's here also. | ||
| Yes, I am. | ||
| I'm very excited to be here with you guys. | ||
| Great to finally meet. | ||
| Been a long time coming, so let's roll this ball down the hill. | ||
| Indeed we shall. | ||
| Iamsurge.com. | ||
| Gonna be a fun one, guys. | ||
| Pleasure to meet you. | ||
| Here's the big news today. | ||
| We're all waiting eagerly to hear about the potential indictments. | ||
| It was presumed that Trump would be indicted on something related to January 6th, but instead, this is the most ironic and hilarious thing. | ||
| The Daily Mail reports, Trump accused of trying to delete the Mar-a-Lago server and wipe surveillance footage in bombshell new indictment. | ||
| Ex-president hit with more charges and head of club's maintenance is also implicated in classified documents case. | ||
| The long story short of it, Trump apparently told some guy he wanted, uh, they say, the former president allegedly told aides to wipe security footage from his Florida club server as a way to foil investigators probing the removal of classified documents from the White House. | ||
| See, that's an opinion statement. | ||
| They're making an accusation. | ||
| Just because Trump wanted a server with security footage wiped doesn't mean he intended to commit a crime by doing so. | ||
| He could've just been like, oh, we're gonna do a routine, like, wipe of the servers. | ||
| But I digress. | ||
| Carlos D. Oliveira, Mar-a-Lago's head of maintenance, has been named as the third defendant alongside the former president and his valet, Walt Nauta. | ||
| Both developments present additional legal jeopardy for the former president, who spent a part of Thursday, blah, blah, blah. | ||
| Just imagine this. | ||
| Imagine this. | ||
| It's been years since they outright said they will not indict Hillary Clinton for actually deleting public record, for having phones smashed with hammers. | ||
| So you're sitting there as Trump and you're like, we're totally allowed to do this. | ||
| Comey himself said it. | ||
| Okay, well, you know, wipe the server, I guess. | ||
| Ah, nope! | ||
| Now they got you. | ||
| Now you're going to be criminally charged and arrested. | ||
| Sounds like they're having, it actually feels like they're having fun, that they are like, you know, let's just get him. | ||
| Let's get Trump on what Hillary didn't get on. | ||
| It'll be just, just, just desserts for Donald Trump. | ||
| I don't know if that's true. | ||
| It's hard for me not to look at it and think, you know, now that they're arresting his head of maintenance and his ally, they're trying to make him feel guilty for putting regular people in harm's way. | ||
| Like they are trying everything to get him to take a plea deal to sort of bow down to this. | ||
| It seems kind of sick. | ||
| Man, I just was thinking of Hillary when Donald Trump was on stage with her and he was like, you'd be, if I was president, you'd be in jail. | ||
| They just, you never forget. | ||
| They never forget. | ||
| It's one of the best debate moments in modern history. | ||
| I think that's the reason why they're trying to put him in jail right now because they're like, you do not do that to the Democratic Party in public. | ||
| You do not say those things directly to Hillary Clinton in public unless you want to face the wrath is what this feels like. | ||
| I mean, Republicans sit around doing nothing, and Democrats are lobbying Molotov cocktails figuratively and literally. | ||
| In New York, they quite literally did, and now they're trying to arrest Republican electors, they're charging them with felonies, they're indicting Trump again, they're going after his maintenance guy! | ||
| It just kind of feels like the Republican Party is sitting there going, oh no. | ||
| Or they're in on it. | ||
| Well, what can they do? | ||
| Republicans? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| So in, say, a Republican state like West Virginia, where you have Republican DAs, they can start criminally charging Democrats. | ||
| They can say, hey, hold on there a minute. | ||
| You just fight, fight fire. | ||
| I mean, is it fighting fire with fire? | ||
| I mean, is there, when it comes to, say, like Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, Joe Biden, do any of the crimes they've committed extend to the jurisdiction of these conservative or Republican, or even in some cases, like Republican libertarian counties or districts? | ||
| The answer is, of course, yes, absolutely. | ||
| Joe Biden, for instance, there was already talk from Republicans about potentially bringing charges against Joe Biden because if he's operating out of certain territories or certain areas, I mean, a lot of these people have property in Florida, right? | ||
| Ron DeSantis and the Florida DAs could be going after people, but not a single, not a single DA, not a single Republican anywhere has come up with any reason or has found any crime committed. | ||
| But they are, they're like, isn't Congress about to impeach Biden? | ||
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No. | |
| So they're kind of throwing back. | ||
| They're not. | ||
| They're not? | ||
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No. | |
| Did they say that? | ||
| Kevin McCarthy said this may reach the level of an impeachment inquiry. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I just heard that like two days ago. | ||
| And they say these things so that you hear they're going to impeach Biden. | ||
| When what he actually said is, we might Ask the question, should Biden be impeached? | ||
| We might think about it. | ||
| They're not even asking, should Biden be impeached. | ||
| They're saying, if this keeps happening, we might have to ask each other if this reaches a level of impeachment. | ||
| I mean, I think you asked a good question. | ||
| What do we do? | ||
| Or what do people do in general? | ||
| How do you fight back against the machine? | ||
| Well, it's the judicial system, right? | ||
| You would think so, but then I see Sam Baikman Freed released today from his charge, and he's walking out. | ||
| He has his $10 billion scam, and he's going free. | ||
| Hillary Clinton didn't get charged for her emails. | ||
| James Comey said she did nothing wrong. | ||
| Hunter Biden had a pat on the wrist. | ||
| Of course, that may be no longer the case with some of the charges maybe being put back on the table. | ||
| But it feels like using the legal system to disrupt the people that are at the top of the legal system isn't the best method. | ||
| So how do we? | ||
| How do? | ||
| I mean, I like to make culture. | ||
| Building culture. | ||
| So yeah, yeah. | ||
| Well, we went through this because we were sued by Disney and we learned pretty quickly that fighting the lawsuit with Disney in Los Angeles is not a place you want to be. | ||
| So we were handed all kinds of crazy, crazy, like our trial, for example, We had someone who was going to come testify from Google that we had gone to work with Google to try to get licensing to be able to skip stuff in TV shows and movies. | ||
| And the judge said last minute, this person can't testify. | ||
| The morning of, right? | ||
| Morning of. | ||
| And those decisions are decided 30 days in advance. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And then after that, the judge lets Disney testify Google's motives with their expert. | ||
| So crazy, crazy stuff. | ||
| And so we just decided we've got to get out of court as fast as we possibly can and fight in the marketplace. | ||
| That's one place where we feel like we still can fight. | ||
| And we settled in 2020. | ||
| And our company, you know, when we were sued, we did like $8 million. | ||
| And here we are, and we have a formerly Disney film that is winning in the market! | ||
| 130 million? | ||
| People that don't know about your lawsuit, did you really quickly explain what was the lawsuit or what's public about it? | ||
| So the way that we started Angel Studios, 10 years ago, four brothers and a cousin, we had young kids. | ||
| Like nine and under. | ||
| And we wanted to watch really great, compelling stories, but have them match values. | ||
| Like my nine-year-old, I didn't want him to go and speak to his sisters in certain ways when they were young. | ||
| And so we created this technology that would allow you to skip. | ||
| You know, skip certain language, or skip nudity, or whatever. | ||
| And we thought, if we launch this technology, we're going to collect a group of people who care about storytelling and care about family, and then we'll be able to distribute new stories to these people better than Hollywood can. | ||
| So that was the original vision. | ||
| So we built the filtering technology, the skipping technology, Uh, 2016 it started to succeed and then we got sued and then, uh, 2020 we settled and then we pivoted to during that lawsuit, we pivoted to creating our own stories. | ||
| You, you said you settled for 8 million. | ||
| Is that what you said? | ||
| It was like 7.8. | ||
| Uh, uh, uh, so it was a 62 and a half million dollar, um, judgment. | ||
| And they basically said, we'll forgive that if you'll pay for some of our legal fees. | ||
| And, uh, and we settled in 2020. | ||
| So our thought process was. | ||
| After fighting for four and a half years, and Disney had probably spent, they'd spent tens of millions of dollars trying to destroy Angel, and we had spent millions of dollars trying to fight back. | ||
| It was just, we got to get out of their game. | ||
| We can't fight inside of the system. | ||
| Well, and they cannot spend you. | ||
| That's one of the challenges in the legal system. | ||
| And the whole entire Hollywood system knows that this downtown LA court, they call it the bank. | ||
| It's called the bank because you can just take anybody there and get money out if you're a Hollywood studio. | ||
| We actually got hit really hard by Disney and so there was this moment where you're just realizing you can't fight them on their ground. | ||
| We just got to opt out of this system and build an entire parallel studio system to the current Hollywood system or else we | ||
| can't we can't rise up through their system. So how did you so people don't know | ||
| you guys the Harmon Brothers do commercial work too you guys have done a | ||
| lot of like the squatty potty stuff you did the rainbow poop coming out of | ||
| the unicorn commercial iconic. So did you take your like private money | ||
| and then you were able to rebuild after the settlement or like how did you | ||
| come back from it Because I think a lot of people might think you get grounded to dust just going through that. | ||
| We almost did. | ||
| Yeah, and we don't know of a startup that has survived from a Disney lawsuit, so we feel very grateful. | ||
| But one thing that happened is we had two major successes while we were in bankruptcy going through the lawsuit. | ||
| Dry bar comedy which gets over a billion views a year. | ||
| It's stand-up comedy. | ||
| That's funny for everyone And then the chosen which is like a top 5 TV series and we just started growing like crazy during this lawsuit and and then Disney and and and then we had a trustee during the bankruptcy who was in charge of her company and We had to file bankruptcy to protect us from Disney. | ||
| Chapter 11 Bankruptcy has this format where you can actually use it as a shield against a predator. | ||
| So we used bankruptcy to protect us from Disney. | ||
| As soon as the trustees saw how fast we were growing with this parallel system that we were building, he said to the judge, these guys are going to be able to pay off the entire $62 million. | ||
| And Disney said, wait, wait a second. | ||
| We actually don't want to be paid back. | ||
| Just put them into Chapter 7. | ||
| Yeah, just put them into Chapter 7. | ||
| And the judge is like, oh, you guys aren't acting in your own financial interest. | ||
| I can't trust you anymore. | ||
| Why didn't they want to be paid back? | ||
| Because they wanted us dead. | ||
| Chapter 7 is liquidation. | ||
| They wanted all our assets sold off. | ||
| They wanted the judge to say, you don't have $62 million today, so sell everything off, and then we get what's left. | ||
| But the trustee said, no, these guys are growing so fast, they're going to be able to pay off this whole $62 million. | ||
| I just need a plan, plus interest. | ||
| And Disney's like, no, that's not what we want. | ||
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He's like, no, thank you. | |
| No, we don't want to be paid off. | ||
| And the judge is like, why? | ||
| The whole point of chapter 11 bankruptcy or chapter seven is you're supposed to want to get paid back, not just destroy a company. | ||
| And so he said, I'm not going to let you do that. | ||
| And then he threw it out or what? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Then Disney said, no, OK, we'll settle. | ||
| If you guys won't ever use your technology to filter our stuff again, we'll forgive the $62 million you guys pay. | ||
| Part of our legal fees. | ||
| Part of the legal fees. | ||
| And we'll call it good. | ||
| Like Jeffrey said, we have 100,000 people who have invested who helped make the content decisions. | ||
| We went to our investors and we said, guys, we told you we'd fight this all the way. | ||
| We have this chance that we can just go after original storytelling. | ||
| Instead of skipping over Hollywood stuff, we make our own stuff, we tell our own stories, and we control those stories. | ||
| What do you guys want to do? | ||
| Do you want to fight this all the way? | ||
| Or do you want to tell our own stories? | ||
| And 84% of our people said, let's just go tell the stories. | ||
| And then we offered to buy out the rest of them. | ||
| Did you get inspired during the court process to start your own storytelling? | ||
| So actually, we thought about doing our own storytelling at the beginning. | ||
| That's the only reason Jeffrey's involved. | ||
| Yeah, I told Neil when he came to me, Neil and Jordan came to me, and they were like, let's build this system that skips and mutes content in movies. | ||
| And I was like, that happened a while back. | ||
| And everybody, there's like 14 companies that did this, and every single one got sued out of existence. | ||
| What's the grounds for suing? | ||
| It's copyright. | ||
| There's copyright arguments. | ||
| But it seems weird, because if I had a movie on at home and I skipped it, that's not copyright. | ||
| But if you have a technology that does it... It's because the technology uses... There's a law called the Family Movie Act of 2005 that allows you to skip and mute content that's transmitted. | ||
| over the internet. | ||
| We read that and said, that means as long as the customers bought the content... And as long as they make the choices. | ||
| Then, as long as they're making the choices, then we can provide technology to skip and mute content. | ||
| Disney came in and said, no, the DMCA, you're decrypting... Neil can explain it better. | ||
| I think the best way to explain it was this. | ||
| The Ninth Circuit basically said, we see vidangel's argument. | ||
| That was your company. | ||
| Yeah, our company at the time was called VidAngel. | ||
| That sounds like a good thing. | ||
| We see it. | ||
| This is a novel interpretation of the law. | ||
| We also see Disney's argument. | ||
| And it just so happens if we go with VidAngel's, there's a big hole in copyright law. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So we can't do that. | ||
| We're going to go with Disney. | ||
| And we're like, wait a second, the Family Movie Act was like an exemption under the copyright law. | ||
| Why? | ||
| You know, that's what they mean. | ||
| It is a whole. | ||
| It's designed to be an exemption. | ||
| But we weren't going to win in that court. | ||
| We weren't going to win in that system. | ||
| What if you open source technology and just release it to the wind? | ||
| We actually did set up a foundation in the middle of the lawsuit and announced that, and Disney came screaming to the courts and saying that they needed to seize the company from us before we let any assets out of the company. | ||
| Because that was ultimately... What's that? | ||
| They stopped you from doing it? | ||
| Well, we were just asking the court if they would let us do it and Disney stopped it. | ||
| Wait, so you're saying the technology, which seems completely honest in today's day and age... It's pretty simple. | ||
| Pretty simple. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| is not available. | ||
| I mean, there's got to be open source versions of this. | ||
| So we settled and we sold VidAngel off and it still works. | ||
| It just doesn't work for Disney stuff. | ||
| It just does not work for Disney or Warner Brothers. | ||
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Two of the biggest producers of children's content that you would maybe want to use this for. | |
| But it's doing well. | ||
| You can't run a plug-in on your own browser watching movies? | ||
| Is that what it is? | ||
| Yeah, so you can, but you can't do it with a modern streaming device. | ||
| So you can't do it through your iPad, you can't do it through your Roku, iPhone, all those things. | ||
| You can do it on a browser. | ||
| You can do it through a Chrome browser with an extension. | ||
| But you can't get it on an iPhone or something? | ||
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| Because it would have to... Unless you... Any modern device you wouldn't be able to do it with. | ||
| I guess technically if you used Chrome on your phone to watch, which would not be as good as the streaming app, but I... Chrome on your phone doesn't support extensions. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So what you're saying is the thing that you made actually would go between an app? | ||
| Yeah, it would basically go, like if you have your Netflix account, you'd tie your Netflix account to VidAngel and it would go and it would be you. | ||
| You'd make your choices. | ||
| You'd say, oh, I want to skip nudity. | ||
| And then it would go up and it would, in the cloud, it would contact your Netflix account. | ||
| Get your Netflix stream, skip it and send it down to your iPhone or to your Roku or whatever. | ||
| And that's the only way it could be done on a modern streaming device. | ||
| And it was like 14% of the market is on a desktop and 86% of the market at the time was all on streaming devices. | ||
| So that's how we delivered the technology. | ||
| Well, I get it. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| When you guys settled and then you bounced, did you bounce out of California after that? | ||
| Are you still sticking around, Cali? | ||
| We're in Utah. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So you were never based in California? | ||
| That's just where the lawsuit happened? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So what happened after you settled? | ||
| What was the impetus for the next generation of Harmon? | ||
| Of Angel Studios? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So after we settled, we bought Angel.com, and then we rebranded as Angel Studios, Angel being investor. | ||
| We had Drybar, we had The Chosen, and then we just started expanding. | ||
| Tuttle Twins, which you can see I'm sporting right here. | ||
| The Winged Feather Saga, which is fantasy. | ||
| Tuttle Twins is like a freedom education thing for kids. | ||
| From Ron Paul, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's set in that world. | ||
| And then you've got Sound of Freedom now. | ||
| Which is fun, because we went through all this battle, and Fox was acquired by Disney during our lawsuit, and this parallel story was happening, and then we ended up with the rights to Sound of Freedom here in 2023. | ||
| Yeah, Fox paid for Sound of Freedom to get made, is that how it worked? | ||
| And then Disney bought them, so Disney owned it, and they were suing you when you bought it from them? | ||
| Or did you wait till after the lawsuit? | ||
| No, it was after the lawsuit. | ||
| And then you purchased it back. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Well, they actually, the team purchased it back, and then we licensed from, we became the distributor after that. | ||
| The team? | ||
| Who's the team? | ||
| Eduardo Verastegui, the producer. | ||
| Oh, he did, straight up. | ||
| Did he raise money? | ||
| I don't know if that's public data. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| And he worked with Disney for like a year and a half trying to get it, to negotiate to get it out of there. | ||
| I love this. | ||
| Fox News, you know, very QAnon. | ||
| 20th Century Fox, right? | ||
| Yeah, we mentioned this earlier that we have this article from Vox.com. | ||
| Take a look. | ||
| This is from like two weeks ago. | ||
| Sound of Freedom wants to raise awareness about child trafficking. | ||
| Here's what it's really doing. | ||
| Oh, what it's really doing. | ||
| I love this. | ||
| Let me just do a quick search. | ||
| You know, Fox used to be called F-O-Q-S. | ||
| Take a look. | ||
| It says, That extremism is at least as dark and dangerous as the very thing Sound of Freedom wants to combat. | ||
| The crazy thing about it is like, But Fox made it. | ||
| Well, Fox made it, and I compare it to Law & Order SVU. | ||
| There's no evil government actors snatching kids under their arms and running out of a pizza restaurant or anything like that. | ||
| It's a law enforcement story. | ||
| That Disney wanted at one point. | ||
| Right, yes. | ||
| When they wanted it, it wasn't extreme. | ||
| They bought it! | ||
| But when they don't have it anymore, it is extreme. | ||
| I mean, I think what you're doing with moving to sort of creating culture through the marketplace is really interesting. | ||
| In some ways, it reminds me of what Matt Gaetz did saying, you know, Jack Smith, the prosecutor that's investigating Trump, he just was like, well, you can't have any more money. | ||
| This isn't worth it. | ||
| This is this is craziness. | ||
| And I think in some way, really, that's ultimately I mean, we talk about a lot with like Public Square. | ||
| The dollar is one way to leverage power against this institution. | ||
| So internally, Republicans who are in Congress could theoretically cut off some of these investigations if they cut off DOJ funding. | ||
| And if you guys are able to say, like, we know people who are willing to spend money for entertainment that they feel represents them, and we make the entertainment, then we're able to circulate this money through people who have the values. | ||
| And I find that really interesting. | ||
| Well, we also learned, like, I went to CinemaCon this year. | ||
| CinemaCon is where all the studios come to Talk to the theaters. | ||
| So the exhibitors are the theaters and those are mainstream Americans. | ||
| These are 3,000 plus owners of theaters all across this country, and they're just normal, everyday, middle class Heartland Americans. | ||
| And so the studios come in, and at CinemaCon, it's the most bizarre experience, where you've got these middle American theater owners, and then you've got these studios that are coming out of their bubble, and then they're just trying to sell their content to the theater owners. | ||
| And so they're kind of like, Is there like a cultural difference? | ||
| There's an almost adversarial relationship, but at the same time they're sitting there whining and dining in the theaters trying to just say, okay, we have to work with you. | ||
| I was walking around with this shirt on, this angel shirt, and I couldn't make it down the hallway without five, six different theater owners just stopping and being like, Hey, they pull out a cross and they're like, I'm on your side. | ||
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| I'm like, thank you. | ||
| But, but it's, it's, um, but the amount of support from the theaters made us realize there's just this realization. | ||
| As long as we can make it economically viable for alternative content to go to the theaters, they will pick that content, they'll support it. | ||
| And that's how the money's made. | ||
| Listen to this. | ||
| July 3rd, we had 2,634 theaters for Sound of Freedom. | ||
| July 7th, 2,852. | ||
| July 14th, 3,265. | ||
| July 21st, 2,285. | ||
| July 28th, it's coming tomorrow. | ||
| What day are we? | ||
| It's this Friday. | ||
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3,411. | |
| This is like the first movie I've ever heard of that has expanded the number of theaters for four Fridays straight. | ||
| You may have misread the number. | ||
| I misheard you. | ||
| I thought the third number you read was a 2,000. | ||
| It was 3,285. | ||
| And then up to 36. | ||
| So it went from 3,265 to 85 to 3,411. | ||
| And then up to 36. So it went from 3,265 to 85 to 3,411. | ||
| I've noticed it, like, consciously, the way it's expanding, too. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| It's like caught fire. | ||
| Psychological fire. | ||
| Listen to this stat. | ||
| This is just on a Reddit thread. | ||
| Sound of Freedom has a shot at 27 straight days over $3 million. | ||
| Even Endgame didn't do that. | ||
| And I believe only a single-digit number of movies have done that. | ||
| Someone correct me if I'm wrong. | ||
| And everybody's like, Titanic didn't do it. | ||
| They made it only to 19 days. | ||
| I'd be interested to know what the record is. | ||
| That's just a Reddit thread. | ||
| Are tickets more expensive? | ||
| Because inflation obviously has got to be playing a role. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| How much are they now? | ||
| So the average ticket price is like $11.80 or something like that? | ||
| Yeah, and if you go back to like Passion of the Christ, it was somewhere 7 or 8 bucks. | ||
| 7 and change. | ||
| Sound of Freedom was number 2 for the July 14th to 20th. | ||
| Yes, yes. | ||
| And I think we've had four or five days that we've been number one. | ||
| But one other thing that's different is that they've refactored all the theaters to do these lounge chairs. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| That's what we had. | ||
| And so it's actually, it's changed. | ||
| Even though the ticket price has gone up, your actual number of seats are smaller. | ||
| And so it's kind of changed the economic environment of the theaters. | ||
| Sound of Freedom's got several days. | ||
| July 4th, it was number one. | ||
| July 10th and 11th was number one. | ||
| And July 20th, it was number one. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| And growing. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| You mentioned crowdfunding, because Angel Studios has a crowdfunding model. | ||
| You see 100,000 Angel investors, they come in and they vote on one. | ||
| Do you ever find that that causes problems, like chaos within the structure of the organism? | ||
| So far, what we've seen is this incredible aptitude for choosing a hit. | ||
| Like, our very first theatrical release was called His Only Son. | ||
| It's this little $250,000 film. | ||
| Nobody would have guessed to take this film to theaters. | ||
| This is not the kind of film you'd take to theaters. | ||
| It doesn't have a big enough budget. | ||
| It doesn't have any named people. | ||
| First-time director. | ||
| It doesn't have a first-time director. | ||
| This film shouldn't have gone to theaters. | ||
| The main actor is from Lebanon. | ||
| The main actress is from Iran. | ||
| And the boy who plays Isaac, Abraham Isaac, he's from Israel. | ||
| There are just no namers. | ||
| But it did well? | ||
| But we got the Guild score and we're like, whoa! | ||
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| And then we put it out there for crowdfunding and it raised $1.25 million in 100 hours. | ||
| And we were expecting to raise $400,000 in 30 days. | ||
| And we're just like, okay, we got to lean into this because what the guild is saying. | ||
| And then it hit number three in the box office against some huge, huge tentpoles. | ||
| But I would assume this is one of the things that maybe Hollywood is forgetting is important. | ||
| Like, you guys are talking to actual people who are interested in a movie who would put their money behind movies and saying, what do you want to see? | ||
| Whereas Hollywood has their own enclave of people and they're asking each other. | ||
| It's such an echo chamber. | ||
| How could you get accurate feedback on what a good movie would be? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| You said the Guild? | ||
| Is the Guild the small percentage of the total crowdfunders? | ||
| Who's the Guild? | ||
| Anybody who has invested in a previous project can be a member of the Guild, and those guys are the ones who decide the future of Angel Productions. | ||
| There's about 100,000 people in the Angel Guild. | ||
| And the idea here is that they replace the Hollywood gatekeepers. | ||
| Hollywood's awesome. | ||
| All the creators, the craftsmen in Hollywood, they're great. | ||
| The gatekeepers are the problem. | ||
| And they're the ones who decide, like, it has to have this much... | ||
| diversity figure or this much LGBTQ has to have this much nudity, this many sex scenes, | ||
| whatever. | ||
| They're the ones just deciding these things for the content creators. | ||
| And so the filmmakers are, they kind of move either direction, but the gatekeepers are | ||
| holding the grounds. | ||
| And so the, the angel guild is a replacement of the Hollywood gatekeepers. | ||
| And so we get 60 filmmakers a week submitting to angel studios. | ||
| And then these, the guild goes through and votes on that content and about 95% of it fails and 5% gets through. | ||
| To the next step. | ||
| Yeah, to the next step. | ||
| When someone submits, they submit, oh yeah, The Torch? | ||
| The Torch, yeah. | ||
| So they'll submit like a five minute short film? | ||
| Or in the case of Sound of Freedom, they submitted the entire film. | ||
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| Okay. | ||
| His only son. | ||
| Anything that's going to theaters has to be the whole film. | ||
| Anecdotally, before the show, you guys were telling me The Torch you call is like this prototype five minute piece or whatever, full film. | ||
| So technically, Sound of Freedom was a torch. | ||
| It's from the Statue of Liberty's torch. | ||
| I didn't know that the Statue of Liberty was crowdfunded. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| By French people? | ||
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| Yeah, so Frederick Bartaldi couldn't get any governments to fund the Statue of Liberty, and he had this dream of creating the biggest piece of art. | ||
| And we all know artists will try to get their budget from wherever they can. | ||
| Yes, that's right. | ||
| They'll go anywhere to get their budget, but he wanted to create the biggest piece of art around the biggest idea in the world. | ||
| Then he first tried the Suez Canal before he'd visited America and he got shot down. | ||
| He visits America and he decides this is the biggest idea. | ||
| America is. | ||
| So he goes back, he gets the President of the United States to say, I think that's a great idea. | ||
| Takes back a letter because the President didn't offer him any money. | ||
| I mean, even the Washington Monument was crowdfunded. | ||
| I don't know if you knew that. | ||
| Because the government wouldn't pay for stuff like that back then. | ||
| My times have changed. | ||
| They had principles. | ||
| So he goes back to France and he raises just enough money to build the torch and the hand. | ||
| And he sets it up in the parks and he takes people up in the top of the torch and he takes black and white pictures of them. | ||
| There's a whole bunch of them online. | ||
| You can see these black and white pictures of this torch. | ||
| And he raised $14 million in today's money over a decade. | ||
| He'd give out little pins, little things. | ||
| It was the first Kickstarter campaign. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| First crowdfunding campaign. | ||
| And he spends a decade, and he builds it. | ||
| So we just modeled the entire brand of our company as we have Torches, which are the filmmakers. | ||
| A lot of like roads, you're really worried about the roads? | ||
| called the torch awards where we actually give away a copper replica of | ||
| the torch of the Statue of Liberty to filmmakers so there's um yeah we the | ||
| ideas around the original crowdfunding campaign I think a lot of the problems | ||
| in today's society could be solved with crowdfunding a lot of like roads you | ||
| really worried about the roads don't wait for the government you know set up | ||
| but we just need maybe some organization for it like an app or something where | ||
| you can like locally yeah some tip yeah Yeah, and what happens is as soon as you engage the crowd, like when we raise, the smartest money we can raise for advertising is from the crowd because everybody comes in, they maybe throw 50 bucks at it or 20 bucks or whatever, and then they go out and they bring it, drag all their neighbors into the theaters. | ||
| So if you get 7,000, 10,000 people crowdfunding a project, You've got an army of 10,000 people out dragging everybody they know into those theaters to try to make that movie profitable. | ||
| Of the 100,000 angel investors that you currently have, do they all invest in every movie? | ||
| No. | ||
| No, they don't all invest. | ||
| Every single movie we bring on a giant chunk of new people, over half. | ||
| How do people sign up to invest? | ||
| Invest.angel.com is where the different projects go up to raise money. | ||
| And there's a link there at angel.com. | ||
| Is it the same way for writers and stuff that want to submit, like as if you need more, another thousand submissions? | ||
| So we're not currently set up to take scripts. | ||
| We only can take torches, like only projects that show a vision for what you're trying to create. | ||
| There's also a link on there for the Angel Accelerator Fund, and they actually partner with some filmmakers to help create torches. | ||
| What's it called? | ||
| The Angel Accelerator Fund. | ||
| And they'll help people that don't have money but have a great idea or like a really great script? | ||
| They're gonna have to bring their own money. | ||
| Like, they match Torch. | ||
| Like, if a Torch cost $100,000, they might put up $50,000 and then the filmmaker would have to bring $50,000. | ||
| Let's talk about winning the culture war. | ||
| So, I think one of the reasons Sound of Freedom is so important is making $130 million several days at number one, proving that outside, as you mentioned, the gatekeepers, there is a path towards success. | ||
| Younger people need to be able to look at the stuff that we're creating and say, there is another way to succeed. | ||
| You don't have to go through the corrupt machine. | ||
| We have this news story that I think plays into this. | ||
| Bud Light Brewery is laying off hundreds of U.S. | ||
| workers. | ||
| Well, I'm kind of sad for these people, but at the same time, if you've been working at Bud Light, where over the past four months this controversy has been going on, you had to know this was coming. | ||
| Not only that, but several bottling plants had already laid off hundreds of people. | ||
| So, y'all should, look, if you work for Bud Light, I would only say, I am personally, I would be surprised if you were not trying to find another job because they are firing people. | ||
| But this is a sign that the old guard and the gatekeepers are failing, they are losing out, get woke, go broke, and we're starting to see the inverse. | ||
| With Sound of Freedom, for instance. | ||
| There is an inverse to Get Woke, Go Broke starting to emerge, and that is, Don't Be Woke, Make Money. | ||
| Or however you'd phrase it. | ||
| I don't know, someone come up with something catchier. | ||
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| Get paid? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Yeah, something like that. | ||
| We'll let the chat take care of it. | ||
| Guys, think of something that's the inverse of this, because... | ||
| This is what we're seeing. | ||
| Now, we were just talking about, you know, Donald Trump is getting indicted, and I was saying this earlier. | ||
| People are like, what do we do? | ||
| How do we win? | ||
| We're watching this corruption. | ||
| I'm like, they're going the wrong route. | ||
| Going this procedural route to try and win a culture war is a losing battle, and we should all know this because it's what Republicans were doing in 2016. | ||
| Democrats were going to the media. | ||
| They were going to TV. | ||
| They were lying, cheating, and stealing. | ||
| They were pushing false narratives, Russiagate, etc. | ||
| to shape the minds of individuals in this country. | ||
| They controlled institutions. | ||
| They were censoring information on media. | ||
| They knew culture comes first, then politics. | ||
| Now what do you have? | ||
| You have the Biden DOJ protecting Hunter Biden with this insane plea agreement they tried giving him, indicting Donald Trump again, and we got SBF getting his charges dropped. | ||
| Not all of them, but how convenient. | ||
| You give Democrats money, you don't go to jail, I guess. | ||
| But I don't think that's going to play very well because if the influence that is generated in culture is coming from the likes of Angel Studios, if the products they're buying are no longer Bud Light, if they're not watching Fox News even, or CNN anymore, they're coming to other places. | ||
| Yeah, it's not like they just stopped. | ||
| Right, exactly. | ||
| They're going somewhere else. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And that means, eventually, Democrats aren't going to be able to pull this stuff off. | ||
| They're going to slowly start losing political power because they're trying to win by writing laws or utilizing government, which I've been saying a long time, doesn't work. | ||
| Republicans keep trying to do that, doesn't work. | ||
| Great example? | ||
| You've got, on the books, laws preventing adults from engaging in lewd and lascivious acts with children. | ||
| These laws have been on the books forever. | ||
| West Virginia, for instance, has it plain as day. | ||
| Yet, the police allow children to be part of lewd and lascivious shows at adult venues, child drag performances, all-ages drag shows that are explicit. | ||
| Because the law has to be enforced. | ||
| The police won't enforce it, though, because of the culture. | ||
| Because we're at a point, or we were, where you have this show where it's not going to lick itself and there's kids there and the cops go, I'm not getting involved in this. | ||
| Even though it is illegal, discernibly codified, the cops won't do anything about it because the culture is fractured and there's no clear winner. | ||
| The police are only going to do what they think the majority would support. | ||
| If Sound of Freedom is winning, if Angel Studios is winning, if shows like ours, if Cast Brew Coffee is winning, if Bud Light is failing, eventually people are gonna say, I'm here to be on the winning side. | ||
| Law enforcement's gonna come out and be like, we're gonna go arrest the person breaking the law. | ||
| It's illegal for women, unmarried women, to skydive in Florida on Sunday. | ||
| Is a cop going to arrest a woman who skydives on Sunday? | ||
| Of course not. | ||
| Why? | ||
| It's illegal. | ||
| Because the law actually doesn't matter. | ||
| What matters is what police are willing to enforce. | ||
| So if we win the culture war, No, I think it's true. | ||
| I mean, the part of government is the consent of the people, right? | ||
| So if you disagree with law, not only can you fight it, but also your town can start to say, like, this doesn't make sense. | ||
| I mean, there are all kinds of old laws in the books. | ||
| The skydiving in Florida one might be an example. | ||
| Of things that we would not allow or accept. | ||
| I believe there's a town in Connecticut where your husband's allowed to beat his wife on the town hall steps during the day and that never got repealed. | ||
| It's just there. | ||
| Now if this happened we would all be appalled. | ||
| Like we know some things are wrong and I can't say why that one was on the books ever but so much of what we do is just I'm choosing to say, like, I'm not going to give in to this anymore. | ||
| And again, I think it's important to go back to the fact that for a long time, you know, you'd get these things, companies doing something you didn't agree with, but there were no alternatives, right? | ||
| Like, I remember, I can't even remember, like, if you wanted to boycott a shoe company, well, that shoe company is also owned by this company that's also doing this. | ||
| And like, we saw this a little bit with Bud Light that, you know, some people were like, well, I'll buy this one. | ||
| And it actually is all under the Anheuser-Busch umbrella. | ||
| So maybe we give credit to the internet here for being active and alerting people to sort of the network of companies. | ||
| But it is really interesting to see people actively seeking out change and reviewing like what they're being told to do and saying, I don't want to anymore. | ||
| I think it happens. | ||
| It doesn't happen at once, too. | ||
| It'll happen like probably like a seven year lag. | ||
| You make a movie that changes like a nine year old's mind. | ||
| And then when they're 16, that's when the power begins to shift. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Do you guys see that with your own kids? | ||
| Well, yeah, totally. | ||
| And that's the reason that we started this is because we could see that this was a long game, right? | ||
| Like, the way that we were going to actually change the world for our children and for their children. | ||
| was not by going and coming here to D.C. | ||
| and lobbying and fighting over red and blue politics, but it was just in our home with our kids, telling really great stories that helped them understand true principles. | ||
| When the Dark Knight Rises came out, I was at CPAC that year or something around there, and I remember sitting in on this panel discussion and them saying, you know, if you're conservative and you want your children who are interested in politics to make a difference, you actually shouldn't send them to UC, you should send them to Hollywood. | ||
| And I wish I could give credit to whoever said that. | ||
| I've forgotten the panelist's name at this point. | ||
| But it's interesting because they're basically making the point 10 years ago and you guys said Angel was founded in 2013 that you guys ultimately proved which is like if you want to redirect culture you need people who have those values in a position to make that content. | ||
| I mean it's we know a lot of people who are creative and who have ideas but I don't remember who was on the show talking about the infrastructure behind movie production, all the things you need to rent and the film equipment. | ||
| There has to be stepping stones to build this and ultimately you guys have proven redirecting the energy is the important thing. | ||
| And Steve Jobs says that the most powerful person in the world is a storyteller. | ||
| He's famous for that statement. | ||
| You can see this with Sound of Freedom. | ||
| Alejandro Monteverde goes and Mexican guy, grew up, was affected by cartels. | ||
| His dad and his brother were murdered. | ||
| Murdered by a cartel. | ||
| And he builds this movie and this story to help unite and to fight this issue. | ||
| And Neil was just telling me last night that some bill in what state was it? | ||
| I think it was Wisconsin. | ||
| Wisconsin or something? | ||
| Like a local legislator put up a bill that's called the Sound of Freedom Bill and they're changing laws because of this film. | ||
| There was a law enforcement officer down in Texas who, after watching the film, started classes in their community and they're teaching teenage girls what signs to look for, how pedophiles attack through social media. | ||
| Those classes are happening all over. | ||
| Classic QAnon right-wing extremism. | ||
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Protect your family, yeah. | |
| Look out for predators! | ||
| Crazy stuff! | ||
| They showed it at Congress, I think, Sound of Freedom, yesterday, is it? | ||
| Yeah, Tuesday night. | ||
| Both sides showed up. | ||
| Donald Trump made a comment that he wants to give traffickers the death penalty, women as well as men. | ||
| That's Donald's idea. | ||
| Yeah, I was like, jeez, why does he keep jumping to the death penalty? | ||
| I don't want to derail if you guys don't want to talk about Big D. Look, traffickers, people that rape kids and sell them probably deserve death. | ||
| But the death penalty, I think the statistics are, they get it wrong like 4% of the time. | ||
| Too much? | ||
| 4 out of 100 people are innocent. | ||
| And so it's not a practical solution, in my opinion. | ||
| I completely agree. | ||
| That's my opinion. | ||
| I believe they deserve it, but you can't practically make that happen without... Like if you were trying to protect a kid who is about to be attacked by someone, use whatever force you can to save the life of that child from the person committing the crime, right? | ||
| If we've captured someone and Kamala Harris walks up to me and says, see that guy over there? | ||
| He deserves death. | ||
| I'm going to be like, I don't trust you, lady. | ||
| I mean, that guy may be evil for sure, but man, I'm not going to sign off on Kamala Harris's request. | ||
| I know she's the worst example I can think of. | ||
| You know, when it comes to who would be advocating for the death penalty. | ||
| Right, but once the power's there, you gotta think of the worst person. | ||
| It's gonna be her! | ||
| Right! | ||
| Now granted, I am grateful that Trump is entering the discussion. | ||
| It shows how powerful this movie has been that Donald Trump is entering that discussion and participating. | ||
| And he had his own screening, right? | ||
| Yeah, but I mean, we've got, you wouldn't believe, like, it's not just Republicans that are asking for screeners of this movie. | ||
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| There are leftist publications that are saying QAnon and stuff, The Guardian did it, but the corporate press critic reviews are still, what, like 75% or better? | ||
| Yeah, I think it's down to 70% now. | ||
| It just slowly gets chipped away at, but there are people on both sides of the aisle that are very powerful, and state leaders all over the world, asking For example, tomorrow we're flying to El Salvador, and we are meeting with Bukele to premiere the film. | ||
| Oh, that's fantastic! | ||
| He's great! | ||
| He's public, I can say that one. | ||
| Who else? | ||
| Name them all! | ||
| You would be amazed, and I'm hoping that some of them, when they watch it, because they're watching it to see... Not that they're going to be on this live stream, but if they are, or somebody who is, we are hoping that one of them will Come out! | ||
| Speak up! | ||
| Just stop this ridiculousness. | ||
| Everybody who's seen this movie knows it has nothing to do with politics and it has nothing to do with conspiracy theories. | ||
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It should be the most bipartisan issue, stopping child trafficking. | |
| It's just a true story. | ||
| But this is what I keep saying. | ||
| Law and Order SVU is on the air for 20 some odd years. | ||
| I think it's still on the air, right? | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| It's a very, very popular show about law enforcement trying to protect victims of sexual abuse. | ||
| You guys acquired a movie and distributed it, and they're so desperate to attack it, it's insane. | ||
| Yeah, but I think you're hitting a point here, and Russell Brand, when he covered Sound of Freedom, he covers this point. | ||
| I'm just racking my mind. | ||
| Why on earth is the left attacking this so hard, specifically the left? | ||
| And I came up with four theories. | ||
| The first one is Russell Brands, which I didn't come up with. | ||
| He came up with it. | ||
| He just said, this is a model coming out of left field. | ||
| It's completely bypassing all the Hollywood gatekeepers. | ||
| They hate it. | ||
| And they hate it so much that they hate this model and the fact they can't control it because they have their oligopoly. | ||
| That they would rather attack the model with these conspiracy theories and just forget about the fact that the message. | ||
| Number two, there's groups of people who are so partisan that when the dog whistles come out, they just say, uh, my team's on this side. | ||
| So therefore I can't watch it. | ||
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| There's a cognitive dissonance where they're not weighing. | ||
| This is millions of kids being trafficked versus my partisan politics. | ||
| So I'll address that, right? | ||
| Many people complain about Chris Evans' politics. | ||
| Because he goes on Twitter and he says woke stuff. | ||
| He's in the movie Knives Out. | ||
| I can separate art from the artist. | ||
| I thought Knives Out was great. | ||
| I think Ryan Johnson also has questionable statements. | ||
| But I thought Knives Out was good. | ||
| I actually liked how he incorporated the politics into it. | ||
| These tribalists you're referring to can't seem to do that. | ||
| They can't do it. | ||
| They can't separate it. | ||
| And then the third one is where you get a little more controversial, but it's like, you've got $150 billion industry. | ||
| There's cartels that are child trafficking cartels, and they've got their talking points. | ||
| And the journalists are inadvertently grabbing these talking points, probably because of one or two, but they're grabbing cartel talking points to try to downplay how significant of a problem this is. | ||
| And number four is, they're just all in it. | ||
| They're all in it together. | ||
| And so probably as Russell Brands got it first and it cascades down to the bottom one, The evil, just everybody, all these people are evil, but it's most likely economics driving it, partisanism driving it, and then the other two are probably smaller ones. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, I think the partisan one is so true, especially if you're getting people who are like, you know, like you were saying with the theater owners who hold up their crosses to you in secret, like these people being like, I am against child trafficking, but I don't want to say it too loud. | ||
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| I identify with Russell's idea that it's economic warfare, essentially. | ||
| They don't like the model of coming in from the outside and disrupting the Hollywood model. | ||
| That's terrifying. | ||
| And the kids are just a side... There was that news anchor who was like, it's not as much of a crisis as you think. | ||
| Did you give your fourth reason yet already? | ||
| Yeah, fourth is just that they're all in it. | ||
| Combination of the three. | ||
| They're all in it. | ||
| They're all evil. | ||
| They're all part of the cartels. | ||
| That's the one the internet loves. | ||
| But I don't even think... Seamus Coghlan has a cartoon on Freedom Tunes that makes the joke perfectly. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| I'm going to spoil it for you guys because I need to make the point, but it's two Hollywood guys being like, oh, this Sound of Freedom, you know, what is going on with this? | ||
| It's succeeding. | ||
| They'll never change my mind. | ||
| They go to see the film. | ||
| They're crying and weeping as they watch it. | ||
| And as they're leaving, they're like, I never knew the suffering and everything they went through. | ||
| To bring us the children! | ||
| Ah, you get the point. | ||
| We talk about how they're upset because they're the gatekeepers, and they're mad that you guys are basically taken over. | ||
| But I think there's a component of, we've known for a long time. | ||
| Because there's the- I think both Corys? | ||
| Cory Haim and Cory Feldman? | ||
| Did they both come out and talk about it? | ||
| For sure. | ||
| I think so. | ||
| I mean, Feldman definitely is vocally at it. | ||
| Elijah Woods talked about this. | ||
| But then you also have just the general abuse of, you know, we all know the story of Harvey and everything he did. | ||
| I have a friend that lives in LA and she's been in this world for a long time. | ||
| And when Harvey finally went in, she was just like, we've known this for Forever. | ||
| Everybody's known it. | ||
| Seth MacFarlane made the joke. | ||
| Everybody knew. | ||
| Seth MacFarlane made the joke on some awards show. | ||
| Then you also have Stewie Griffin in an episode of Family Guy running through the mall saying, help, help, I've escaped Kevin Spacey's basement. | ||
| Like, people in Hollywood know what's going on there. | ||
| So I'm gonna say The tribal partisan thing, I think, makes sense. | ||
| Because we've had people come on and sit at the studio, like The Culture War, for instance, and outright defend books, we have these books here, where they're showing graphic images of adult activities to kids and say, it's a good book. | ||
| And I'm just like, that's the most insane thing ever. | ||
| Like, have you no principles? | ||
| They don't. | ||
| But I really do think Hollywood's got pedos who are really pissed off that you guys put out a film, I think, I really do think that one of the reasons Disney did not want to run this is because there's high up people who are like, the last thing we want is people focusing on this as a cultural issue. | ||
| There's no reason for Disney not to publish this film. | ||
| They had it. | ||
| It was basically free. | ||
| They had bought it already. | ||
| They could have put it straight to DVD or put it on Amazon and made a couple hundred thousand dollars overnight. | ||
| But they decided to shut it down? | ||
| Something doesn't add up with that. | ||
| Because if the question was gatekeeping, they could've just put it on Amazon. | ||
| They could've put it on Disney+, hey, here's another offering. | ||
| But for some reason they said, no one should see this movie. | ||
| That's weird. | ||
| And then we talked about with, you know... | ||
| Well, we had Tim here and Eduardo. | ||
| Is it Edward or Eduardo? | ||
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Eduardo. | |
| And Tim Ballard. | ||
| When we had him here, he was mentioning that there was going to be a companion documentary that they were supposed to make. | ||
| And it was because they didn't want to do that, they released the rights to the film. | ||
| So, Disney's looking at it like, we're going to have to release this film because of a contract and we're going to have to make a documentary about it. | ||
| I think there are people who are high up who have certain predilections who are like, we don't want two films, so what's your win scenario? | ||
| Pass it off so just the film comes out, hope it fails, and don't make the documentary. | ||
| Your worst case scenario is you have to make the documentary and the film comes out. | ||
| So they actually are looking at it like, you know, we may lose this, but we don't take as much collateral damage in terms of their predilections and what they don't want people talking about. | ||
| I think it's possible. | ||
| I want to give some benefit of the doubt that maybe they just thought this isn't- A brand fit. | ||
| A brand fit. | ||
| I don't have- You guys are so nice. | ||
| I mean, technically you're right! | ||
| I have every reason to hate Disney. | ||
| They made my life miserable for four and a half years. | ||
| But I think I'd like to leave that open. | ||
| Yeah, I think they are being against child trafficking, which is kind of an interesting brand to have. | ||
| Matt Kibbe, I was talking to him the other day and he said, maybe it's like Baptists and bootleggers. | ||
| Where you've got the one side, they're kind of almost like a collaboration happening without them even realizing that they're collaborating. | ||
| One's actually against it and one's for it, but they're actually making it happen together. | ||
| And he's like, it kind of reminds him of that in some ways. | ||
| There's a parallel there. | ||
| I got it pulled up right here. | ||
| Law & Order SVU has been on the air for 24 years. | ||
| It is one of the most popular television shows of all time. | ||
| So there's two points to be made there. | ||
| Why Disney would look at a well-made movie, which they had already and could just literally upload to Disney Plus and be like, have a nice day. | ||
| They have that. | ||
| They could release it, allowing them to be in a similar space. | ||
| People like the show, clearly. | ||
| Why would they not do it? | ||
| Were you going to answer? | ||
| I have a follow-up question. | ||
| We were talking to John Irwin, because he said this movie came across his desk at Lionsgate. | ||
| He was pushing for it. | ||
| He was pushing for it. | ||
| He saw the potential for the movie, but he said, all the people that we launched through, They are the elite. | ||
| They are the power players. | ||
| They are the tastemakers. | ||
| And the leaders don't want to touch the film. | ||
| We didn't know how to get it out the door. | ||
| He said they're all calling him now being like... Yeah, everybody's like, why didn't we take that? | ||
| But then he said, when I saw you guys got it... | ||
| I was like, that was the perfect match because Angel has a direct connection to the people and the people will care about this issue and they will be able to rise it to the level that the tastemakers pay attention to it. | ||
| And the leaders have to pay attention to it. | ||
| And so that's exactly what happened. | ||
| When Disney sold it back, or to you guys, is it public how much they sold it for? | ||
| They sold it to Eduardo. | ||
| They sold it to Eduardo. | ||
| I think they released it to him, didn't they? | ||
| Eduardo released the number of what he's got into the film. | ||
| It's $14.5 million. | ||
| He released that publicly. | ||
| I don't know the exact details of the rest of what goes into that $14.5 million. | ||
| Okay, but roughly, up to $14 million, he paid to Disney to get it. | ||
| And maybe Disney thought they weren't going to get $14 million putting it on Disney+, so they're just better off unloading it for a small dose of cash. | ||
| I just can't speculate. | ||
| I say what you're thinking. | ||
| I want to pull up this video. | ||
| We have this video Ian Miles Chong posted. | ||
| It says, this is what's popular on TikTok. | ||
| Meanwhile in China, kids are learning about theoretical physics, practical woodworking, and astronomy on Douyin, which is their version of TikTok. | ||
| This video is disturbing. | ||
| It's on par with the NPC girls. | ||
| You guys have seen that stuff? | ||
| Yeah, I just saw it the other day and I was so confused by it. | ||
| My wife and I, we watched it like seven times and we're sitting there going to bed and we're watching it over and over again. | ||
| I'm like, what are they doing? | ||
| And by the end we just... You and everyone else. | ||
| I won't let myself watch it. | ||
| I want to play this video. | ||
| I got to play this video. | ||
| It's 23 seconds and you'll get a general idea. | ||
| I don't want it to be too loud, but here we go. | ||
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| crying and screaming and trying to stack nuts. | ||
| Like, hardware nuts. | ||
| Lug nuts or something? | ||
| Yeah, I don't know. | ||
| I don't think those are lug nuts, necessarily. | ||
| Just hardware nuts. | ||
| And it's deranged. | ||
| It is absolutely deranged content. | ||
| If you let it roll for a second longer, he makes this weird, like... | ||
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| That's why he's popular, is that face and that sound and stuff. | ||
| So this is what, this is what kids are watching. | ||
| You feel your mind disorganized as you watch it. | ||
| This is what, so I'll throw it back to you guys, are you guys familiar with Elsagate? | ||
| YouTube started promoting a whole bunch of these videos of Elsa, Spider-Man, and the Joker running around doing shenanigans. | ||
| It started devolving into extremely psychotic content where there were cartoons of children drinking out of urinals and consuming feces. | ||
| In 2013 or something? | ||
| This is the algorithm at the time. | ||
| I think this was YouTube. | ||
| It was an accident. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| YouTube just had an algorithm that recommended what got clicked the most. | ||
| They didn't really think about it and it was being exploited and people were just doing keyword searches and then making whatever was getting the most clicks and it turned into this nightmare scenario. | ||
| I think with TikTok. | ||
| You look at this video, pull this clip back up. | ||
| I want people who are watching to see this guy's face. | ||
| TikTok is promoting this stuff. | ||
| Because I think they figured out, hey... | ||
| Elsagate is destroying the fabric of the United States and the West, because the children who watch that are going to have psychological problems and trauma later in life. | ||
| This is very much the same thing, as are the NPC girls. | ||
| There are already stories about, first, young girls facing extreme depression because of Instagram, but now you have stories of young girls developing Tourette syndrome Because they would watch a popular influencer with Tourette's start imitating the person and then start developing involuntary tics in their communication style because this is social development for young people. | ||
| I think TikTok, it's my personal opinion, promotes this stuff in the algorithm because it is gutting and destroying the fabric of our young people. | ||
| This is another reason why I think it's so extremely important. | ||
| One, you guys share Tell your friends to go see movies like Sound of Freedom, but all the other stuff that Angel Studios has coming out, you've got, what's that new, there's another movie you've got coming out? | ||
| You've got Cabrini. | ||
| Cabrini. | ||
| The Shift, I think. | ||
| The Shift is coming out in December. | ||
| Cabrini looks really good. | ||
| There's one coming out in October called After Death. | ||
| Oh, cool. | ||
| Dude, the shift looks nuts. | ||
| Yeah, the shift looks good. | ||
| The shift is awesome. | ||
| I really want to see Cabrini. | ||
| That trailer looks really amazing. | ||
| And John Lithgow's in it! | ||
| Yeah, John Lithgow. | ||
| And it's the same director as Sound of Freedom. | ||
| It's Alejandro. | ||
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Oh, wonderful. | |
| And it's his best work yet. | ||
| It looks really good. | ||
| My wife and I screened it, and my wife came away and she said, top five movie of all time for me. | ||
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Wow. | |
| My daughters say it's their favorite movie too. | ||
| Wow, that's amazing. | ||
| Once we have screeners, we'll let you know. | ||
| Right on, right on. | ||
| But I don't want to watch a screener. | ||
| I want to watch in theaters. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Okay, all right. | ||
| We'll get you in the theater when it's time. | ||
| I don't know if it's supposed to be a secret or whatever. | ||
| With Sound of Freedom, someone reached out to me and said, like, hey, we got a screener. | ||
| We want you to see the film. | ||
| I was like, I'm going to theaters, man. | ||
| Yeah, I like you. | ||
| That's so much better. | ||
| Yeah, but the theater's the experience, especially there with your friends. | ||
| And afterwards, we're walking out, we're talking about the parts we liked and didn't like. | ||
| And not just that. | ||
| The theater is this, it's a communal experience. | ||
| Everybody goes in, do you guys know who Andrew Peterson is? | ||
| No. | ||
| Who wrote The Winged Feather Saga? | ||
| He's from Nashville. | ||
| Amazing author from Nashville, musician, pretty big name. | ||
| But he has a blog called The Rabbit Room. | ||
| And on that blog, they published, it's a group of people that write on it, they wrote a blog post called The Sacrament of Cinema. | ||
| And in it explains, and this is what shifted my gears on why movie theaters are hanging on and why I think that they have a bright future, is he compares the sacrament when you go to church and you let go of everything and you get into the exact same experience as everybody around you and you focus on this one thing which represents Jesus Christ. | ||
| And you focus, focus, focus, and you take the sacrament. | ||
| When you go to the theater, you're surrendering all your screens, all the social media, and you're allowing yourself to be enveloped in an experience that that director built for you and crafted for you. | ||
| And then immerse yourself, and there's no pause button, and you're all together. | ||
| And so you have this incredible experience, and it can be life-changing. | ||
| And I think that people are hungry to get away from the social screens. | ||
| And the easiest, most simple way to do that is to head to the cinema and actually- Shut it all down. | ||
| Shut everything down. | ||
| And it's healthy for us right now where we're overstimulated. | ||
| So it almost sounds weird because it used to be the stimulation spot, but this is actually, I think it's a way to shut things off. | ||
| I do too. | ||
| The good news is- So when we look at this video and this guy is screeching and making nonsense content, which is going to traumatize kids, they're gonna grow up and they will imitate. | ||
| Are they gonna be building spaceships? | ||
| Are they gonna be astronauts? | ||
| Are they gonna be even race car drivers? | ||
| No, they're gonna be... | ||
| Saying insane things or acting like NPCs and saying ice cream so good, but we're winning. | ||
| One, obviously you guys are here, we're talking about Angel Studios, all the projects you have, but along with this story is Dylan Mulvaney announcing a stepping back from producing content because only 50% of Americans like me, Dylan says, and so Mulvaney will be slowing down content. | ||
| This is what happens when people speak up for what they believe in, when they say Uh, rather sternly, but politely. | ||
| Dylan Mulvaney has bad content, which is bad for kids, promoting alcohol to kids. | ||
| You know, people want to talk about gender ideology, I'm like, absolutely. | ||
| But also, the scandal starts with Dylan promoting booze to children on TikTok. | ||
| That was the whole thing! | ||
| Grabbing all the beer cans, cracking them open, and being like March Madness, drink beer, and the average audience of TikTok is under 21. | ||
| These are not good things. | ||
| So when we see this stuff, we complain about TikTok. | ||
| Yes, there are issues with a lot of people using the platform. | ||
| TikTok banned us, for instance, for no reason. | ||
| Little sour grapes there, I suppose. | ||
| For no reason, we're removed. | ||
| We can't even express our opinions. | ||
| But I think, this is what leads me to believe ultimately, they're trying to influence young people in ways that destroy their lives. | ||
| When we look at Sound of Freedom, when we look at, I mean, Angel Studios, you guys are slaying it! | ||
| It's crazy, the expanse of growth. | ||
| We may not have control of all the institutions. | ||
| I have people say, how can you claim we're winning if Hollywood is owned by the left, if television is owned by the left? | ||
| I'm like, there you go. | ||
| One of my points was theaters are not owned by the left. | ||
| But what I'm saying is winning doesn't mean owning everything. | ||
| Winning doesn't mean you won. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Winning means you are gaining the territory in the conflict. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| And we are winning. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| What you said about the theater is so true. | ||
| It's epically true. | ||
| It's been true for thousands of years beyond cinema. | ||
| Cinema is a relatively new aspect of theater, but the theater, since the Greeks, 800 BC. | ||
| It's a local thing. | ||
| It's not a global thing. | ||
| People vibrate together in the local community. | ||
| That's the ticket. | ||
| I had a dude, when I saw Sound of Freedom, to my left, it was like breathing super heavy. | ||
| He wasn't very healthy. | ||
| He was drinking his Diet Coke or whatever he was drinking. | ||
| But I have love for that man. | ||
| It made that experience unique. | ||
| It was in my ear, and it was a little distracting, but at the same time, I'll never forget it. | ||
| I'll remember that forever, that moment. | ||
| And I love that guy. | ||
| I just remember that guy. | ||
| It was cool to be there with them. | ||
| Or the fact that I think it's, I mean, we might be seeing as much as 10% of showings of Sound of Freedom having standing ovations. | ||
| And there's showings where people, complete strangers hug each other. | ||
| Yes, and this isn't an uncommon report. | ||
| I think also- You can't have that at home. | ||
| Yeah, since COVID has basically died down, the madness around COVID, people want to go out and socialize again. | ||
| And the cinema is the place. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| You hear that, AMC? | ||
| I'll say it. | ||
| I gotta say it every time. | ||
| The intro of Sound of Freedom is just so good. | ||
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| Man, it's remarkable to me that they walked away from that. | ||
| That they're like, how do you not watch that and be like, wow. | ||
| This is an amazing film. | ||
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| Just the intro. | ||
| Just the intro, man. | ||
| Really well done. | ||
| We had a super chat from earlier. | ||
| Someone suggested that you guys do, or somebody does a movie about the Statue of Liberty, that story about the Statue of Liberty. | ||
| Oh, that would be really fun. | ||
| That'd be cool. | ||
| I made a trailer. | ||
| We are working right now. | ||
| Probably the first piece of it will be done next year. | ||
| Jordan should be talking about this part. | ||
| Founders. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We're building a series on the founding of America and trying to build an entire... This is so under-told. | ||
| Game of Thrones style. | ||
| Yes, this is so under-told. | ||
| Game of Thrones with a moral compass. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| But this is such an under-told story. | ||
| Think about how many movies you know The Patriot, and then you know like a bazillion documentaries. | ||
| Dude, The Patriot is like one of my favorite movies of all time. | ||
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John Adams. | |
| The Patriot is such a good movie. | ||
| Yeah, John Adams and The Patriot, that's about it. | ||
| And there's that musical, 1776, that was pretty good. | ||
| In the UK they complained about the depiction of the British in The Patriot. | ||
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Because you get the bad guy like killing children and they're like, oh how dare you! | |
| It's anti-British. | ||
| It's anti-white colonialism. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Go out there and make your own pro-British movie. | ||
| I think it's interesting because I watched Patriot probably way after everyone else, but after it you're like, yeah, let's hang an American flag. | ||
| This is great. | ||
| I feel like there is something really positive about walking into a theater and being like, I feel empowered to do something. | ||
| I think Sound of Freedom has that effect for a lot of people, even if it's just be more conscious of how they can serve their local community. | ||
| But the Patriot makes you want to be like, yeah, it's a good country. | ||
| This is cool stuff. | ||
| I think that is sort of, along with the moral hunger in society, some way to feed that. | ||
| Because videos like this of TikTok of this guy screaming, that's the equivalent of fake chemical sugar that we're feeding to our young people. | ||
| You need to give them more substantial content for them to feed their minds, their emotions, their souls, things like that. | ||
| If you have them on the app where there's nothing nutritious, so to speak, there, then of course they wither away. | ||
| You can't be surprised. | ||
| This stuff's junk food. | ||
| You know what is really interesting? | ||
| You bring up the Patriot and that was made by an immigrant, right? | ||
| Alejandro is an immigrant. | ||
| Frank Capra, who made a ton of Americana, right? | ||
| It's a wonderful life. | ||
| Mr. Smith Goes to Washington, all these films that helped define our country, made by immigrants. | ||
| That's what I love about the cinema. | ||
| Is that it's all about uniting around an idea rather than partisanship or, or country lines. | ||
| It's just about uniting around an idea. | ||
| Well, and I think it's interesting too, because this new study came out saying they're like only 18% of young Americans consider themselves like very patriotic. | ||
| Which is sort of strange, but when we saw periods of high patriotism, it's when we're in conflict, when we have to pull together with people that we don't know who live in our country, we feel bonded that way. | ||
| And to your point, I think, at least in my experience as a first-generation American, immigrants choose to be here and they realize often why. | ||
| They have a decision, there's a choice, right? | ||
| There's sort of an act of love in that choice. | ||
| And I think that in some ways makes it easier to be clear about what you have when you were born into something. | ||
| It sometimes becomes easy to be like, meh, not that great because you don't have anything to compare it to. | ||
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| That's right. | ||
| I was in Poland and my wife and I, we went to a communist museum. | ||
| They have a bunch of them. | ||
| And I was reading, I was just amazing, all the artifacts and everything from the USSR that were there and these Stalin statues and Lenin statues. | ||
| And then I get out and I'm looking at Google reviews and there's all these Americans writing these one-star reviews and they're just like, uh, it, it makes communism look really bad. | ||
| They're like, they need to get rid of their bias towards this. | ||
| And I'm just like, what? | ||
| No. | ||
| These are the people who, like the people who made this museum are alive now and they lived through it. | ||
| And anyway, so it's just, they forget. | ||
| You're only a generation away from freedom being gone. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| We need to preserve the... I think about that when it comes to the transgender movement and just transgenderism in general. | ||
| If we could somehow make a movie that shows someone going through it, and you can really empathize with the person struggling with their own gender, and then you can kind of see it from the outside of what's happening to them and why they're going through it, that it could remind people in 20 years, like, it's okay to be you. | ||
| You know, just to give young people hope that if you're feeling weird, there's a way to... It's okay to feel weird. | ||
| Yeah, and if we don't tell the story, it won't be remembered why it happened in the first place, and then we're doomed to repeat these cycles of lack of faith or lack of love for self. | ||
| So I would love to make a movie about that. | ||
| I would even love to play that character, for honest. | ||
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Kids need... I bet you could do a great job at that, Ian. | |
| Kids need stories where they will look up to people. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So that they want to emulate something. | ||
| You know, I read these stories online, there's these memes where guys like, I have a kid, he's kind of dumb, he's five, and then one day I saw him running around and he said, I'm Spider-Man, I'm Spider-Man, or something like that. | ||
| And I'm like, yeah, the kid saw a movie where the main character, the good guy, Spider-Man, is doing these heroic things and then the kid imitates that. | ||
| You give positive reinforcement, say, these are the people we like, these are the stories of heroism. | ||
| Right now what's happening is we've had this period where there's a lot of woke movies that have no clear... | ||
| Plot. | ||
| The Bane characters are bad guys. | ||
| Like, even if you look at, Captain Marvel's a good example. | ||
| There's this really great video breakdown of Captain America versus Captain Marvel. | ||
| Captain America sacrifices himself for his country. | ||
| He desperately tries to serve his nation, even though he's not fit to do so. | ||
| He's willing to jump on a grenade to save people. | ||
| Captain Marvel starts off with her robbing a guy for his clothes. | ||
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| And so, and worse, and because the guy's on a motorcycle and he goes, you should smile. | ||
| And then she looks at him and then robs him. | ||
| Like, apparently they're playing this trope that women should be empowered by stealing. | ||
| Like, she's the bad guy. | ||
| And they tried defending it saying, well, yeah, you know, she changes later on. | ||
| And I'm like, if kids watch that and they look up to someone who is mean, nasty, and entitled, they're gonna grow up thinking that's the way to be and we don't want that. | ||
| You're gonna love Cabrini. | ||
| Because Cabrini is the story of a woman who's a superhero by being a woman. | ||
| Unapologetically. | ||
| She unapologetically, unapologetically, she's in a battle against the mayor of New York | ||
| trying to figure out how to help the poor. | ||
| And she's a Catholic nun. | ||
| And she's a Catholic nun. | ||
| But she's an entrepreneur who happens to be a Catholic nun. | ||
| What year does it take place? | ||
| It's 18... 18... Well, she was born in 50... 56? | ||
| Late 1800s. | ||
| Late 1800s, yep. | ||
| But it's just this beautiful story of a woman being powerful because she's a woman. | ||
| And I think that what we're seeing is that people are sick and tired of nihilistic movies. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Every single movie ends with, everybody's bad. | ||
| You get to the end of a series that you liked, and they just end with, everybody sucks. | ||
| Everybody's bad. | ||
| Everybody's evil. | ||
| Everybody's complicated. | ||
| Well, complicated's fine. | ||
| But there's no true good, evil, black, white hero that's just missing right now. | ||
| They're sick of nihilism. | ||
| And we're trying to offer an antidote to that, is that, you know, stories that amplify light. | ||
| But go ahead. | ||
| Oh, and you're talking about Frances Xavier Cabrini, the woman, the Italian-American saint? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| She's powerful. | ||
| First American saint. | ||
| She's the very first. | ||
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First. | |
| Man or woman. | ||
| Man or woman. | ||
| Are there more? | ||
| Are there other ones now? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, cool. | ||
| I had a question. | ||
| Basically, you said that you watched, you and your wife, Jeff, watched that weird TikTok NPC seven times. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And like, it's junk food. | ||
| You also mentioned how it's like junk food. | ||
| Did you feel like gross afterwards? | ||
| Did you feel weird afterwards? | ||
| Because you was talking about how it like discombobulates the soul or whatever. | ||
| Oh, I said I feel my mind disorganized as I'm watching it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's just straight up junk food. | ||
| Did you feel it happening as you were watching? | ||
| Because I've had to shut that video off. | ||
| It's like brain junk food. | ||
| Yeah, it's just like, I think TikTok just in general is brain junk food. | ||
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I think it's more like brain opiates, like drugs. | |
| I guess you were talking about how characters become complicated and how that's kind of a problem, but you were saying it's okay, like complication's okay. | ||
| I wonder about that because... | ||
| I think we do need to reorient people. | ||
| You know, the reason I mention that is because one of the reviewers of Sound of Freedom was pointing out how they wish that the character Tim Ballard was more complicated. | ||
| But it just happens to be a true story. | ||
| And Alejandro and Rod Barr, they wrote it the best they could based off the stories. | ||
| And what they knew about Tim Ballard. | ||
| And what they knew about Tim. | ||
| And they wanted something more complex. | ||
| But clearly audiences just want someone to go and fight evil. | ||
| They want to see somebody fight evil and know that that can happen. | ||
| And it's giving people courage. | ||
| And when somebody sees someone else, like if someone sees Cabrini do something, someone sees Tim Ballard do something, they say, wait a second, that wakes up something inside of me. | ||
| Yeah, because nobody's perfect. | ||
| Tim's probably gotten into arguments with his wife, but you don't want to make people listen to it. | ||
| Well, and he actually tells the story, because in the film she says to him, you quit your job and you go and rescue those kids. | ||
| He said the real story was he called her and said, Honey, I have a chance to rescue some kids. | ||
| The only way I can do it is if I quit my job. | ||
| We've got six kids at home, you know, obviously I can't do that. | ||
| He was trying to talk her out of it. | ||
| He was trying to talk her out of it. | ||
| Talk himself out of it. | ||
| And then she said, I hope I quote this correctly, but she said essentially, Can you rescue the kids if you stay? | ||
| And he says, yes, I think I can. | ||
| And she said, then you need to quit your job and go do that. | ||
| And he said, no, no, no, no, no, no. | ||
| You're crazy. | ||
| We'll lose our pension. | ||
| All this stuff will happen. | ||
| She said, you don't come home until you rescue those kids. | ||
| And she said, you don't come home until you rescue those kids. | ||
| And then he kept fighting it. | ||
| And then he says, I was kind of a coward. | ||
| And then she finally said, I will not jeopardize my salvation by you not rescuing those kids. | ||
| So that was the real story, right? | ||
| But Alejandro wanted to have the hero be the hero. | ||
| But he was sitting there like, I don't have any support from the state, which means maybe I've got like a 50-50 chance. | ||
| That you become a widow. | ||
| Yeah, that's kind of how he was feeling, whether or not that's... Without support. | ||
| Yeah, if you don't have support, if things go wrong, you're gambling. | ||
| He ended up having support of the Colombian government by the end, but when he made that decision he had no support. | ||
| We were listening to a lot of classic rock and older songs, and we're hanging out downstairs. | ||
| We're also, you know, we watch some older movies, and I'm just like, where are the modern masterpieces? | ||
| You know, everything's formulaic, and I think it's probably fair to say I didn't grow up in the 60s or 70s. | ||
| They probably had their formulaic garbage music all the same, and we only remember the greatest works and stuff like that. | ||
| But man, we're really in need of a movie that will resonate throughout generations. | ||
| We need to get away from this formulaic stuff. | ||
| You know, look, superhero movies are entertaining. | ||
| I'll go see them. | ||
| But Sound of Freedom was meaning. | ||
| We need movies like that. | ||
| Even Groundhog Day, right? | ||
| Groundhog Day seems simple comedy, but it's so good. | ||
| So powerful, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, you walk away from it, you want to be a better person. | ||
| Yeah, but it's fun, you know? | ||
| It's interesting. | ||
| It's an interesting idea. | ||
| Yeah, when I sculpt. | ||
| Well, the system has gutted out the place where people can play and take risks. | ||
| They've gone to tent poles. | ||
| That's where they can invest the money. | ||
| That's the way that they know how to make the cinemas work, and that's the way they keep the competition out. | ||
| So nobody can get in and play with risky storytelling. | ||
| And the Angel model has opened that door again. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| I think that door is wide open now. | ||
| Is it because you guys now have contacts? | ||
| I'm still a little foggy on the whole process. | ||
| I mean, I know you have the 100,000 investors that pick the thing, they'll fund the thing. | ||
| We can predict the Rotten Tomatoes audience score based off the guild. | ||
| Oh, nice. | ||
| And then in addition to that, we have... We can predict the audience Rotten Tomatoes score, not the critics. | ||
| The print and advertising marketing budget normally comes from a bank or from a big studio. | ||
| They write one check. | ||
| When we're getting the checks from 7,000, 10,000 people, it's the smartest marketing funds that have ever been spent in Hollywood because all those people bring their family and friends. | ||
| They talk about it. | ||
| And so it becomes a movement. | ||
| It becomes something where people have to be part of it. | ||
| And additionally, with our history of selling products and making them household names, we had this moment click where we realized that selling seats is no different than selling squatty-potties. | ||
| And squatty-potties, by the way, work. | ||
| Yes, they do. | ||
| What's the movie that you guys coming out? | ||
| You said October, I think? | ||
| October is After Death. | ||
| After Death. | ||
| What's that thing about? | ||
| Is the trailer out? | ||
| I can text you the trailer. | ||
| Jordan, we haven't talked to you much on the show. | ||
| Can you just make your younger brother do things in the background over here? | ||
| I'll give you my number after the show, Jordan. | ||
| Is it weird? | ||
| I mean, I think we'd be okay just showing a preview, if you guys just want to show a rough cut of the trailer on YouTube. | ||
| Is it on YouTube? | ||
| No, it's not on YouTube. | ||
| No, it's nowhere. | ||
| Like, you'd be watching the draft. | ||
| You'd be the first one ever to show a draft. | ||
| How do we get it up? | ||
| Let's just do it. | ||
| How do we do it? | ||
| Jordan will hook it up. | ||
| It's not actually out yet. | ||
| This will be the final trailer? | ||
| This is a draft of the trailer? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Cool. | |
| But now we're, yeah, let's do it. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| Sneak preview for all the TimCast IRL viewers. | ||
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While they send it over, can I say, Yeah, where are we sending it? | |
| Jordan, figure it out. | ||
| Maybe with Surge? | ||
| Yeah, run over to Surge and get it to him. | ||
| What is it like working with a bunch of your brothers? | ||
| Here, I'll go get it and then send it to Surge somehow. | ||
| It sends you a link and then maybe you can pull it up. | ||
| Sorry, Hannah-Claire. | ||
| It's okay. | ||
| We probably need the video file. | ||
| We need to be able to play it or something. | ||
| You'll be able to download it. | ||
| Is it online? | ||
| Okay, cool. | ||
| Yeah, we can download it. | ||
| We'll figure that out. | ||
| So, they're six brothers. | ||
| So, there are nine in our family. | ||
| six boys and three girls. | ||
| And the... | ||
| So in the beginning, there were some struggles figuring out how to work together. | ||
| But after we nailed it and after we figured it out, it feels providential how the skill | ||
| sets of our family complement each other. | ||
| And it just so happens that there have been many other companies that have been very successful that are brothers. | ||
| The Disney brothers. | ||
| Or families. | ||
| Roy and Walt. | ||
| You've got the Warner Brothers. | ||
| You've got the Koch brothers, the Nolan brothers, you've got the Musk brothers. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so when family can figure out how to work together well, there's power in that. | ||
| And so it's really worked out well for us. | ||
| And three of you are involved and a cousin, you said, or all six of the brothers? | ||
| So four of us and a cousin started this company. | ||
| Only three of us work here full time. | ||
| We have another brother who is the showrunner for Tuttle Twins. | ||
| Oh, cool. | ||
| We have a brother who leads the consulting agency, and then another brother who ended up being the operator over at VidAngel when it got sold. | ||
| The guy who's the CEO of VidAngel hired another brother to do that. | ||
| That's interesting. | ||
| So if you have more jobs, you just enlist the rest of your brother. | ||
| That sounds super nepotistic. | ||
| No, but maybe it's nice because you guys know each other. | ||
| I mean the other one is the Ringling Brothers and there were like 400 of them. | ||
| I mean by that I mean I think there were like eight Ringling Brothers and they each did different things and had different skill sets and that was ultimately a huge part of American culture. | ||
| If you're just kind of cast from the right die, for us the casting comes from just being farm boys in Idaho and just a farm family. | ||
| That's where you guys grew up in Idaho? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And Jordan, over here in the background, he left after co-founding with us. | ||
| He left for a while and he started another company called Cove and grew it to a hundred million dollar company. | ||
| And then it ended up being our other team members and our board who decided to hire him back because we didn't feel like we could make that decision. | ||
| And they hired him back and it's been great. | ||
| He's filled out the team and helped the team so much. | ||
| It's definitely not nepotistic unless that can be defined in a good way. | ||
| I'm not trying to imply it's nepotistic. | ||
| It's just interesting because some people feel like, you know, you can't work with your spouse, you can't work with your siblings, but obviously… And it is. | ||
| It's really hard to work with family members, but when you can make it work, something happens that other co-workers say, you guys need to just like talk more because you have this like non-verbal communication happening where you know what's happening with each other. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It makes it a little harder on the rest of the team. | ||
| Yeah, they're like the three brothers that are operating in the company. | ||
| You guys together are like our CEO. | ||
| You're like the Elon Musk, the three of you together. | ||
| And then the rest of us have to figure out what you guys are actually thinking because you don't... You don't need to communicate as clearly because you're... We don't. | ||
| And it works really, really well. | ||
| Everybody else just has to figure out what we're thinking. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so when you started the company, you were all in Utah. | ||
| Is there a benefit for the film? | ||
| Because there are certain states that are sort of cultivating film industries, from what I understand. | ||
| Is Utah one of them? | ||
| So Provo actually was one of the capitals of media. | ||
| Like the number of YouTubers that were in Provo when we first started this company, it was like the fourth in the world. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, because they were, from what I understand, they led like sort of lifestyle vlogging. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And there's, you know, the Piano Geyser from Utah, Devin Supertramp, Lindsey Stirling. | ||
| So there were a ton of views. | ||
| But not just that. | ||
| Utah has a very strong ad market, so advertising agencies are very, very strong in Utah. | ||
| And we have a very, very good tech market. | ||
| And so Angel Studios, our core competencies Our technology and marketing. | ||
| That is what we're very, very good at. | ||
| And then we work with amazing filmmakers to get their content to go global. | ||
| So I think we can try and play it. | ||
| I don't know how it's going to look. | ||
| Do you want to switch over and see what it looks like? | ||
| Can you just go full screen? | ||
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We can't, but... That's fine if we can't. | |
| I think this is... Yeah, I don't know if we can even do that. | ||
| It should. | ||
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Should be fine. | |
| Yeah, equally- Alright, well- Fullscreen in that. | ||
| Yeah, maybe switch to the, uh, just- Yeah, it's a little bigger. | ||
| Maybe fullscreen inside there. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know. | ||
| Nah, fullscreen cuts out too much. | ||
| Go back to the other one and we'll just play it. | ||
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Yeah, looks bigger there. | |
| So this is a rough cut. | ||
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We got you, it's cool. | |
| It was 1969, the beautiful day to fly. | ||
| you We were about a hundred feet above the ground when I started noticing that something was wrong. | ||
| It was engine failure. | ||
| Trees were filling our windshield. | ||
| We hit that dome. | ||
| Boom! | ||
| I found myself above the crash site. | ||
| And while I'm processing what I'm looking at, I can see a pilot. | ||
| And this is me. | ||
| No two near-death experiences are the same. | ||
| Out of nowhere, a trainer truck hit me head-on. | ||
| But they typically occur in a very consistent process. | ||
| We began to go down the river, and my boat became pinned. | ||
| I was drowning. | ||
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The first thing that happens is called an out-of-body experience. | |
| And they come to a place of exquisite beauty. | ||
| They very commonly see a light. | ||
| Deceased relatives come to meet them. | ||
| The first person I saw was my grandfather. | ||
| Now I'm traveling like a rocket ship, straight upwards. | ||
| And with that... Oh my God! | ||
| I'm alive! | ||
| But not every near-death experience is a good one. | ||
| 23% had hellish experiences. | ||
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I saw a black tunnel. | |
| I was just falling. | ||
| I wasn't in fear. | ||
| I was in terror. | ||
| It was just darkness. | ||
| Put me back. | ||
| I don't belong here. | ||
| I heard a voice before I woke up. | ||
| You still have a purpose on Earth. | ||
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I was very skeptical. | |
| I never felt alive and then dead. | ||
| I felt alive and then more alive. | ||
| I had full brain recordings from a dying human brain. | ||
| Even though they were unconscious, they were able to give corroborative evidence. | ||
| She's describing stuff that she just shouldn't know. | ||
| This ain't right. | ||
| You can't be mystified by that question. | ||
| What happens after you die? | ||
| This really does show that there is life after death. | ||
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Oh man, that looks awesome. | |
| I got chills when the hellish scene happened. | ||
| Wow, that's really well made. | ||
| It's impressive. | ||
| The Guild picked this, Angel Guild picked this, and it just popped out. | ||
| You know, you're getting 60 filmmakers a week and the Guild is just like, boom, this is one of them. | ||
| And we're going with October because the Day of the Dead is in October, so that sounds fun. | ||
| Dia de los Muertos. | ||
| Yeah, it sounds fun. | ||
| It's a good juxtaposition. | ||
| It's like a narrative documentary, like cinematic components added to interviews. | ||
| That's awesome. | ||
| It's so cinematic. | ||
| Are all the theaters going to be like, we gotta pick up this movie because Sound of Freedom did so good. | ||
| This will probably be a smaller release than, for sure it's a smaller release. | ||
| This is a littler, like there'll be enough theaters that people can find it, but it will be a smaller. | ||
| This will be more similar to his own. | ||
| Oh, my theater has it. | ||
| Yeah, more similar to his own. | ||
| That was gonna be fun for Halloween. | ||
| That's good. | ||
| Do you feel pressure now that Sound of Freedom is so big? | ||
| You're like, well, what do we do next? | ||
| Well, I think Cabrini's gonna be... | ||
| Bigger? | ||
| On that level. | ||
| And then we've got one coming in 2025 called David, and it's a $60 million animated musical. | ||
| Because King David, and it's based on- Like old school Disney style? | ||
| Like the way it used to be? | ||
| Yeah, like Prince of Egypt. | ||
| It's a bunch of people from the Pixar team and the Disney team that have come together. | ||
| See, winning a culture war, man. | ||
| But this is awesome because most musicals, everybody just breaks out music for no reason. | ||
| And in David, King David was a musician and he was called into Saul, King Saul, to actually sing to bring down his nerves or whatever it was. | ||
| It sounds like an emotional issue for King Saul, like schizophrenia or something when you read it. | ||
| But he brings down his nerves, and he wrote most of the book of Psalms. | ||
| He's just an incredible artist. | ||
| So the music's all motivated throughout the entire animated musical, because David's a musician. | ||
| So it's a very interesting take, and I think it's going to be huge. | ||
| You guys said that this trailer we just watched is a rough cut, so what would be an example of how that would change as you're finalizing the trailer, like technically? | ||
| There's tweaks for messaging mostly. | ||
| The audio's mostly there. | ||
| It's not sweetened yet or balanced, so maybe that didn't turn out as well online, but you gotta sneak peek. | ||
| It's a live stream. | ||
| Um, but the, and then you've got different messaging things where there's like, should we put, um, like one of the debates was, does the dark stuff, should the dark stuff be so prominent in the trailer? | ||
| Or is that going to put some people off? | ||
| And we're trying to figure out if that, and my wife responded the same way. | ||
| She's like, that's the most, that's like so intriguing. | ||
| Like I've never seen anybody. | ||
| First off, these, these kinds of stories are very common. | ||
| I've, I've had like neighbors that have had these types of experiences. | ||
| But they're all so spread out and no one's ever gone through and just told them in a really good way that's scientific as well as good storytelling. | ||
| And this film's going to rock people. | ||
| People call them near-death experiences, but the stories are actually death experiences. | ||
| They're death. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Every single one of these, they're dead. | ||
| Right. | ||
| People who- They are legally- Doctors said they're dead. | ||
| 19 years ago, someone lent me a book, and I was reading this guy collected a bunch of stories of all these different people. | ||
| Who had different, totally and dramatically different means of dying. | ||
| Some, they were sick and they were on their deathbed in the hospital. | ||
| Some were in car accidents. | ||
| Some people slipped, fell, hit their head. | ||
| Things like this. | ||
| And then they all described very, very similar things. | ||
| Much like what was actually in that trailer. | ||
| How they described a place of beauty or a light and things like this. | ||
| I want to ask one last question before we go Super Chats. | ||
| Video games. | ||
| You guys gonna do any video games? | ||
| So we experimented with Roblox with Wing Feather Saga. | ||
| I think Wing Feather Saga will eventually be a really good video game. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It was built in Roblox? | ||
| No, no it's built in. | ||
| Wing Feather Saga is really interesting because they animated it and they built specific kind of animation. | ||
| If you look up Wing Feather Saga trailer, This animation is designed, it will remind you, it came before Puss in Boots, the new one, but it has some of the similarities. | ||
| Puss in Boots, these guys pioneered this type of animation and they used Epic's Unreal Engine and they designed an entire way to animate with Unreal Engine, which means that it's easy to bring it into a video game. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's built to be able to make a video game. | ||
| Yeah, the future, I think, movies and video games are kind of coming together where you can become the character in the movie and experience it from different perspectives. | ||
| I got one last question for you, Tim. | ||
| Would you let them hook your brain and body up to a recording machine, perfect resolution recording, and then let them kill you and bring you back to life? | ||
| No. | ||
| Why not? | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| Just wondering. | ||
| That's part two. | ||
| I wonder if that constitutes suicide. | ||
| Or murder, if they kill you without your consent. | ||
| In Canada, you can do it. | ||
| But if you choose to go to a lab, and they say, we're going to induce death and then bring you back, would that be suicide? | ||
| As long as you're in Canada, it's fine. | ||
| But I'm speaking spiritually and morally. | ||
| Are you now condemned to hell for the mortal sin of killing yourself? | ||
| And if they fail to bring you back, did they murder you? | ||
| That's a good question. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I would assume that people are doing something with it. | ||
| Part 2 of After Death. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| After. | ||
| But the video game stuff would be cool. | ||
| There's uh... Still happening. | ||
| One of the, one of the, uh, Final Fan- I played Final Fantasy 16. | ||
| I thought it was not that good. | ||
| Uh, some people are saying it's so great. | ||
| I'm like, ugh. | ||
| Uh, Horizon, the Horizon series is actually really, really good. | ||
| I don't know if you guys have played it, but it's, it's, it's, it's, it's great storytelling. | ||
| Long story short, Uh, Guy invents self-replicating war machines. | ||
| One of them gets, well, a company that contracts a group of these machines gets locked out. | ||
| The machines start self-replicating faster and faster. | ||
| The rate of replication overwhelms human capabilities to stop it. | ||
| Planet gets destroyed. | ||
| The last-ditch effort is to build a terraforming system on Earth. | ||
| So, the game takes place in the future after civilization's collapsed. | ||
| And you're fighting these gigantic machines. | ||
| And then you later learn those machines were actually terraforming the planet. | ||
| Some problem happens. | ||
| Chaos, conflict, etc. | ||
| But it's cool to, you know, stories like that. | ||
| Some people don't like it. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| Although the Forbidden West is... | ||
| Irritatingly woke, in that all the bad guys are dudes, and all of the heroic generals of the good guys are women, and it's just like, at a certain point, come on, man. | ||
| You know, and they make you fight women all the time, and I'm like, it is kind of weird that in this game you go around just mercilessly beating women, but they wanted all of these fighters to be like, very prominently female, and I'm like, it's just a game where you go around beating women. | ||
| You know, like, even if they were gonna do it 50-50, you'd have some guys here and some guys there, and it's like, mostly women, you know, so. | ||
| But, you know, video games would be cool. | ||
| Let's go to Super Chats! | ||
| If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share this show with your friends, and head over to TimCast.com, become a member. | ||
| to support our work directly, and we're going to have a members-only uncensored show where you, | ||
| as members, can call in and talk to us and our guests and ask questions. That's the most fun | ||
| part of the night. But for now, we will read your Super Chats. | ||
| I'm Not Your Buddy Guy says, I've come to the conclusion that Western intelligence | ||
| agencies, specifically American, have grown beyond their scope and are more of a problem | ||
| than solution. Do we dissolve or reform them? If so, how? You vote for Donald Trump and then you | ||
| defund and dissolve. Or Vivek. Or Vivek. | ||
| Vivek said he'd do it. | ||
| RFK would do it. | ||
| Larry Arthur said I could be his press secretary. | ||
| Which one will really do it though? | ||
| That's the question. | ||
| Ah, Vivek. | ||
| Because I like Vivek, I like RFK. | ||
| I mean Trump wants revenge. | ||
| I couldn't vote for Trump because he was for the lockdowns. | ||
| Don't vote for the lockdowns. | ||
| He wasn't against them. | ||
| He was against them. | ||
| He said, he said, we shouldn't do this, it should be by choice, but I don't have the authority, and then, I don't think he said it that articulately, he was like, I can't do it, it's the governors, they could do it, they're doing their thing. | ||
| He was for it in the beginning, though. | ||
| Yeah, I remember getting up and saying... | ||
| Yeah, so for me, that's where he loses me, but I really like Vivek and I like RFK Jr. | ||
| I think Vivek is how it is pronounced. | ||
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I thought it was Vivek, but it's Vivek. | |
| Okay, good. | ||
| I've never said it out loud. | ||
| I just read it. | ||
| Dude, he's legit. | ||
| That guy's awesome. | ||
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We just interviewed him last week. | |
| He's the best guy running, in my opinion. | ||
| I'm a realist, not an idealist. | ||
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And he didn't offer me a job, so what's the point? | |
| We can be idealists during the primaries. | ||
| Idealistically, I'd love to see Vivek win. | ||
| Realistically, I think he gets a cabinet position in a Trump administration. | ||
| Trump's the guy with the gravitas to win. | ||
| He said that he wouldn't take a cabinet position because he's not wired to take a number two position. | ||
| And I just thought that was like a very interesting, very self-aware comment. | ||
| Self-aware that he wouldn't be able to do it. | ||
| He said, like, some people, like, would you see a Vice President Trump? | ||
| And it's like, it's very difficult to imagine a Vice President Trump. | ||
| All right, here we go. | ||
| Raymond G. Stanley Jr. | ||
| says, Tim, forget about Corn Pop. | ||
| He was merely just a bad dude. | ||
| Coconut and Monkey, on the other hand, are leading a domestic terrorism campaign against fellow crackheads, and they'll only get probation. | ||
| Yeah, this is a story out of Seattle. | ||
| Did you guys hear about this? | ||
| IEDs were planted. | ||
| There was a shootout. | ||
| There's a drug camp that went up in flames. | ||
| Coconut, I think, was the leader. | ||
| Second in command was Monkey. | ||
| Like, this is what's happening in these cities when people absolve themselves of their responsibilities and their civic duties. | ||
| You get Coconut running around, setting fires. | ||
| Apparently, there were people in a tent doing drugs, fentanyl. | ||
| And then this guy placed a bunch of IEDs all over the place and just torched everything. | ||
| One dude got, like, seriously burned and is in, like, critical condition or something. | ||
| I feel like I'm not seeing this story reported widely enough, which is also concerning. | ||
| What the heck, yeah. | ||
| There's just a ton of stuff that you don't want to talk about. | ||
| Why haven't I heard about this? | ||
| Well, my first thought was, is I've been launching a movie. | ||
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Yeah, you're busy. | |
| Yeah, I just don't think the corporate press is going to be like, did you know that far-left extremists have implemented policies resulting in gang warfare in Seattle to the point where forests are being set on fire and IEDs are being planted and shootouts are happening? | ||
| And they're assaulting people who are taking drugs that are trafficked across the border. | ||
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They just don't want to talk about it. | |
| Steve McGee says if Biden said Corn Pop is bad, I'm going to assume he is good. | ||
| Well, the conspiracy theory is that Corn Pop caught Joe Biden touching kids inappropriately, and Joe Biden lied about the story for, you know, brownie points or whatever. | ||
| And it turned out Corn Pop was a good dude. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know, Joe Biden's got that story where he's like, the kids, they rubbed my legs! | ||
| Like, I got hairy legs! | ||
| It's like, what? | ||
| And someone made a cartoon where Joe Biden's in a pool and the kids are rubbing his legs or whatever. | ||
| Yeah, maybe Corn Pop saw him and was like, stop touching these kids, you freak. | ||
| And then Joe Biden grabbed a rusty chain and was like, what'd you say to me? | ||
| Great story. | ||
| I mean, look. | ||
| Make a movie out of it. | ||
| I don't trust Joe Biden's version of events. | ||
| I called him Esther and he got mad. | ||
| Corn Pop will have his day. | ||
| All right, Coco Madetta says, the Tuttle Twins books are the best. | ||
| My kids love them. | ||
| And I'm buying extra to give for birthday gifts. | ||
| Spread the good news by doing the same. | ||
| What is it? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Tuttle Twins? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Tuttle Twins is a best-selling book series that sold, I think, five or six million copies that teach kids about the principles of liberty and economics. | ||
| And we've made a TV series based on the book series. | ||
| I'm wearing the hat. | ||
| um that's got this grandma cubid who's in a wheelchair and her wheelchair happens to be an interdimensional time traveling wheelchair and she takes her twin grandkids that are half cuban half american and flies them around to meet characters like benjamin franklin or harriet tubman Or Frederick Bastier. | ||
| Just all inventors, entrepreneurs, educators. | ||
| It's halfway through season two right now. | ||
| It's growing parabolically. | ||
| It is a huge hit. | ||
| You can watch it for free with your kids on the Angel app or angel.com. | ||
| It's growing exponentially. | ||
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It is. | |
| Killer. | ||
| It is so good. | ||
| I know a lot of parents use Total Twins as part of their homeschool curriculum because they produce some companion stuff. | ||
| So it's interesting that you'd offer a TV version. | ||
| It's the same writing team is doing this that wrote the Squatty Potty ad. | ||
| So that tells you how funny it is. | ||
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Oh, nice. | |
| So it's a show? | ||
| It's a cartoon show? | ||
| It's a cartoon series, yeah. | ||
| About 20 minutes per episode. | ||
| We are, our timeline for our coffee shop, our first Casper location, may be this fall, I'm hoping. | ||
| We were planning on having it open in the spring, but we're in a historic building, so that brings up a whole bunch of complications with what we can do, what we can use, what we can't use, how long it's going to take to get things up and running. | ||
| But the plan we had, and the reason why I want physical spaces, one, we want to have a thousand locations all over the country. | ||
| The general idea that I pitch is Mom's on her way to soccer practice with the kids. | ||
| She wants to get a cup of coffee. | ||
| She walks in and orders it, and while she's waiting, there are TV screens and they're playing Crowder and Tim Guest IRL. | ||
| We can get you Total Twins for that. | ||
| Well, better than that. | ||
| The big idea, outside of the general idea, is Saturday morning cartoons, where Saturdays at like 6 a.m. | ||
| we open early. | ||
| We invite families to come with their kids. | ||
| We play content that is wholesome, approved, and good for the kids. | ||
| Parents interact, build community with each other. | ||
| The kids meet each other and play. | ||
| There will be a food catering or something. | ||
| And then, what's on the TV? | ||
| It could be Tuttle Twins. | ||
| It could be, uh, what's the Daily Wire doing? | ||
| Chinchilla? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, getting, getting, uh, supporting the parallel economy, but just Having shows for kids that are good, educational, wholesome all at the same time. | ||
| We're not going to go near any of the traditional stuff that I grew up with because, well, they're going to sue us into oblivion and stuff like that. | ||
| So we're going to support the companies that support us. | ||
| That's the plan. | ||
| It's like secular church almost. | ||
| That's awesome. | ||
| That's awesome. | ||
| And Tuttle Twins is every bit as high quality. | ||
| Think Rick and Morty, but with a moral compass. | ||
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So one of the twins is drunk and... No, it's solid. | |
| It's good. | ||
| I love that you're teaching economics to kids. | ||
| That just lit me up when I was in first grade, and then they just didn't give it to me for the rest of my schooling. | ||
| I wanted it. | ||
| Yeah, my six-year-old comes up and recounts these random facts about Frederick Hyatt. | ||
| Or they went and met Milton Friedman and learned about inflation. | ||
| And my kids are like, oh, I saw inflation at the grocery store the other day. | ||
| The thing I normally buy with my money was more expensive than last. | ||
| This is inflation. | ||
| And they're like- And they know why. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And then they repeat the lines like, inflation kills the nation. | ||
| Or a couple weeks ago, they released the episode on hard money. | ||
| And they talk about Bitcoin and explain Bitcoin. | ||
| And they meet Satoshi Nakamoto. | ||
| Is he wearing a mask? | ||
| That one's super viral. | ||
| It's got a thing with Elon Musk blasting off with dogs in a rocket. | ||
| But is Satoshi like a silhouette or something? | ||
| His face gets covered everywhere. | ||
| You never see anything but his eyes. | ||
| He's explaining what hard money is. | ||
| So it's really fun. | ||
| Right on. | ||
| Alright, Hank Fett says, building culture is a slow process that means nothing if it doesn't change the people in power or how the ones we vote for represent us. | ||
| Anything we do can easily be undone by the laws they pass. | ||
| Incorrect, sir. | ||
| Incorrect. | ||
| And I explain this after your super chat, to be fair. | ||
| Your super chat and then later in the show we were talking about it, but there are so many laws on the books that do not get enforced. | ||
| That's just it. | ||
| They can pass all the laws they want if police don't enforce it. | ||
| They're meaningless. | ||
| It becomes civil disobedience, essentially. | ||
| On a mass level. | ||
| Cohabitation is illegal in West Virginia. | ||
| A man and a woman who are unmarried are not allowed to live together. | ||
| That's kind of crazy. | ||
| No cop is going to enforce that. | ||
| Within that same law, you cannot be openly lewd or lascivious, particularly with children. | ||
| Yet they still have lewd adult shows with kids at these pride events. | ||
| No cop will go near it. | ||
| Doesn't matter if the law's in the books that you can't do it. | ||
| The culture in this space is shifting. | ||
| We gotta shift it back and say, hey man, leave these kids alone. | ||
| There's this, in episode 6 of season 1 of Tuttle Twins, they cover this issue, just looping that back in, is that there's a song that this guy from Georgia who lives in a houseboat, that he's parked in this boat for more than 30 days and it's illegal, and he sings a whole song about everything's illegal. | ||
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Oh yeah. | |
| It's amazing. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| Did you know that if you stop at a yellow light, that's illegal? | ||
| Really? | ||
| And if you go through a yellow light, that's illegal? | ||
| No. | ||
| It's the interpretation of the officer. | ||
| They can give you a ticket for either. | ||
| Either way, either way. | ||
| If you slam your brakes on, they can say it's reckless, it's an abrupt stop, could cause an accident, you're getting a fine. | ||
| If you go through it, they can say potentially speeding or, you know, they can make up a reason. | ||
| Disorderly conduct is the easiest one. | ||
| Every jurisdiction effectively has disorderly conduct. | ||
| You could be protesting, holding up a sign, and they say, take that sign down now, and you say, I'm not doing anything wrong. | ||
| Disorderly conduct, you're under arrest. | ||
| Everything's illegal. | ||
| Probably through resisting arrest, too. | ||
| Yeah, there are tons of protesters who have been arrested for resisting arrest. | ||
| Yeah, how many felonies does the average person commit a day? | ||
| I think it's three. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| How can you, like, that's the funniest thing. | ||
| Yeah, we have some friends who were up in Idaho, and they were singing outside during COVID. | ||
| They just won that. | ||
| They just got an award from Moscow, Idaho. | ||
| They got arrested in Moscow during the COVID period. | ||
| They went outside and worshipped a church in Moscow, Idaho. | ||
| It made it illegal. | ||
| And they went out and sang outdoors. | ||
| And they were like tackling them and arresting them. | ||
| And they just got a huge award for... They won the case. | ||
| Yeah, they won the case. | ||
| Or settled it. | ||
| I'm not sure if it was... Or settled. | ||
| They won or settled. | ||
| Seve Rose says, thank you Sound of Freedom angels. | ||
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Cool. | |
| Tech question, have you heard of SponsorBlock? | ||
| I was reminded of it by your lawsuit, open source browser extension and a database | ||
| of user contributed timestamps for skipping embedded advertising | ||
| in supported slash cracked players. | ||
| Cool, there's a free open source browser extension. | ||
| Watt Fandom says, just got the post that Sound of Freedom is coming to Tasmania, | ||
| so Australia is getting it, hyped to see it. | ||
| Yes, it is. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| I think you guys posted it's going international in a bunch of places. | ||
| Yeah, go to angel.com slash blog and all the announcements right there. | ||
| Yeah, it's coming to all of Latin America on October... No, August 31st. | ||
| August 31st, and then Brazil's in September, I think. | ||
| Yeah, September 21st. | ||
| UK's September 1st. | ||
| I think it's August 16th in Australia. | ||
| Are all the Harmon Brothers co-founders and equity holders of Angel Studios? | ||
| Or are there other investors, other people? | ||
| There's four brothers that co-founded out of the six that have co-founded Angel Studios. | ||
| Do you have other investors? | ||
| Because we're owned by the community audience and the community too. | ||
| We have 10,000. | ||
| But outside of that, were there prominent individuals who were like, we're going to pledge a large amount of money to help you guys get off the ground? | ||
| We have three VC funds, three or four. | ||
| And one of them, actually, their LPs are from Mexico, which is interesting. | ||
| That was the first fund that invested. | ||
| Their LPs are in Mexico. | ||
| And then the most recent fund that invested is called GigaFund, which is one of the largest investors in SpaceX. | ||
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| GigaFund is? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Wow. | |
| That's Elon, isn't it? | ||
| They did 40-something million dollars. | ||
| They put a lot of money. | ||
| They follow Elon's companies and put money in them. | ||
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Oh, wow, wow, wow. | |
| Yeah, because aren't they? | ||
| They invest in companies that they believe will change their industry over the next decade. | ||
| They invested in you guys? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Are these guys jumping up on their desks and doing the Lindy Hop because of the success you're having? | ||
| They're happy right now. | ||
| Fantastic investment, by the way. | ||
| We had a good board meeting last week. | ||
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They're like, guys, we've got $130 million on this movie! | |
| So Gigafund, yeah, they've put in—and their goal is, they just say, any company that's going to change the world and that they believe the founders will stick around with it for a decade or two. | ||
| And part of the settlement was that Jeffrey and I put up our stock against the settlement to move on. | ||
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Wow. | |
| How does that work? | ||
| You put up the stock? | ||
| 14 years. | ||
| That means for 14 years, our stock's tied up. | ||
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We're in this for at least 14 years. | |
| If we filtered Disney stuff over the next 14 years, they could come after us for our stock. | ||
| So you're really putting your word in what you're saying. | ||
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Yeah, we're putting our livelihood on the line. | |
| Koldilocks Production says, I always hate when people say don't fight fire with fire, that makes things worse. | ||
| Has no one heard how they fight forest fires? | ||
| They use controlled burns to fight them. | ||
| Fighting fire with fire. | ||
| What they'll do in fields, you'll see if there's like brush fire and stuff, they'll actually burn a line and that stops the fire. | ||
| That's kind of like an example would be like if they're like sending kids to a sexualized system and you're like, yeah, that would be great if we could overly sexualize every little kid and that's like you burning a perimeter around the idea so that they're like, okay, I'm not gonna go that far. | ||
| So that would be an idea of like fire with fire. | ||
| I don't think in that capacity. | ||
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I don't agree with that. | |
| Oh, that's how I think in capacities like those. | ||
| Paul Morris says, become alive, start to thrive. | ||
| JM13SC says, based, not disgraced. | ||
| I was thinking just like, not woke, not broke. | ||
| I mean, it doesn't exemplify making money though. | ||
| Our goal, one, if you want to change the world, capitalism is the best. | ||
| Go make money on something that's going to change the world. | ||
| The only way we're going to get sound of freedom to every corner of the earth is if we make it super economically profitable or else it will never get there. | ||
| It just can't. | ||
| And so that's the first thing. | ||
| The second thing that we try to focus on is focus on what you're for more than what you're against. | ||
| If you focus on what you're for, you'll get further. | ||
| I think you get a quicker start when you focus on what you're against, but if you focus on what you're for, you'll get a longer run. | ||
| Here's a good one! | ||
| El Rojo Grande says, reject woke trash and drown in cash. | ||
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That was great! | |
| I'm still looking for a positive one. | ||
| You gotta find the rhythm a little bit, but it's pretty good. | ||
| Reject woke trash, and he put rake slash drown, so I think drowning cash. | ||
| I like drowning cash. | ||
| Reject woke trash, rake in the cash. | ||
| Ooh, that one's good too. | ||
| That works. | ||
| Reject the cult, and you won't go broke. | ||
| Be based, and cash awaits. | ||
| There's really no good rhymes. | ||
| No, the first one was good. | ||
| Reject woke trash, and rake in the cash. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I'm looking for something... Get Woke, Go Broke. | ||
| That's a classic. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's hard to compete with that. | ||
| But you know what? | ||
| But I'm loving this workshopping. | ||
| But really, I guess the idea is Get Woke, Go Broke also does mean the inverse. | ||
| If you're not woke, you will not go broke. | ||
| You know, it's getting woke which makes you go broke. | ||
| Mike Z says, The Winged Feather Saga is amazing show and book series. | ||
| As a writer myself, I've been working on a book for a number of years. | ||
| When my mother caught wind of the series and showed me it, I now own the entire book series and am blown away on the similarities. | ||
| Thanks, angels. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| And my daughter, who's eight, she told me, for years, Frozen has been, she's like, Elsa's my favorite movie. | ||
| After watching the first season of Winged Feather Saga, she said, and this is after many years, she said, Elsa's no longer my favorite movie. | ||
| Winged Feather's always my favorite movie. | ||
| We got a crowdfund that Buddy Cop movie. | ||
| Yeah, me and Roseanne. | ||
| Ian and Roseanne Buddy Cop. | ||
| And Mel Gibson's gonna be the police chief. | ||
| I don't know if he knows that yet. | ||
| No, I haven't called him yet. | ||
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But you should. | |
| Yeah, Mel, give me a ring. | ||
| Buddy cop. | ||
| It's gonna be great, man. | ||
| What's the conflict? | ||
| I think we need to find anti-gravity. | ||
| We need to recover the anti-gravity tech because someone's trying to... They're not cops. | ||
| It's like secret agents. | ||
| Yeah, the idea of buddy cop is just kind of a genre, so we'll just be like two partners. | ||
| But it would be funny if you were both beat cops. | ||
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Yes, 100%. | |
| I would love to see both of you be beat cops. | ||
| Mel Gibson's like, I won't stand for it! | ||
| And then Roseanne's like, ah, you son of a bitch. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Only Rosie can do Rosie, you know. | ||
| Or, you know, maybe a superhero film where Ian, as a beat cop... | ||
| He's chasing a bad guy who breaks into a graphene laboratory. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| Dude, we're doing graphene. | ||
| And then what you do is... It's not... You know, in Batman, the Joker falls into the vat of chemicals, but in this one, it's Ian who falls into the vat of chemicals. | ||
| Oh, that's a good idea. | ||
| And then me and Roseanne become enemies, but then at the end, it's like, oh, I'm not gonna spoil it. | ||
| No, no, because I'll become kind of a creepo after falling in the vat. | ||
| She's like... | ||
| Yeah, but there's tension after that, you know, and so we've got to overcome the tension. | ||
| I'm not going to spoil the end. | ||
| Hopefully it works out. | ||
| Oh, speaking of graphing, thanks Serge. | ||
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Let's grab some more superchats. | |
| Goremall says I never believed in the death penalty until the Merchant of Death was released. | ||
| Some people do things so evil, the only way we can ensure they don't do it again is death. | ||
| If they live, the chance of those evils still exist. | ||
| And I don't disagree. | ||
| The problem is, when Kamala Harris walks up to you and says, This guy right here deserves death! | ||
| I'm gonna be like, Yeah, lady. | ||
| Not happening. | ||
| I don't trust you. | ||
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Sorry. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Legitimately, it's 4%. | ||
| The studies show that 4% of death penalty are accidents. | ||
| They don't get the right person. | ||
| Think of all the things that you don't trust the state to do for you. | ||
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Right. | |
| Let's not add to the list. | ||
| Bureaucratize death. | ||
| It's not a good thing. | ||
| And the thing is, on the surface, when you get a governor you trust and he's like, this guy murdered kids. | ||
| He was convicted. | ||
| We're going to put him to death or whatever. | ||
| On the surface, it's very much like, we get it. | ||
| Yeah, well, and they do deserve death. | ||
| People, so the thing about abusing kids, especially this trafficking and rape and all that stuff, is it's worse than murder. | ||
| I really do think so. | ||
| Murder takes a life, but abusing children in this way rips apart the fabric of human civilization. | ||
| So it's like... There's a reason why Jesus was so, like, wrap a millstone around their neck and throw them to the bottom of the ocean. | ||
| That line from, uh... | ||
| From Caviezel. | ||
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So good. | |
| He ad-libbed it. | ||
| He ad-libbed it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I didn't know Jesus said that. | ||
| That's like from the Bible? | ||
| That is from the Bible. | ||
| And that was for people that were hurting children. | ||
| Jesus says it is better that a millstone be wrapped around your neck and thrown to the bottom of the ocean than hurt one of your kids. | ||
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Wow. | |
| It's like, he who would hurt God's children shall have a millstone cast around their neck and be cast into the ocean or something to that effect. | ||
| There's different translations of it, but the general idea is... Who would turn their children from me or something like that. | ||
| Yeah, he went total gangster right there. | ||
| The things they do to kids, when those kids grow up, they hold those traumas, and it ripples out. | ||
| It ripples out, and they act out on other kids. | ||
| Most child abuse is kid-on-kid now. | ||
| Because adults start it and they hit a kid and then the kid goes and does it to their peers. | ||
| But even beyond that, a kid who is abused, who grows up and struggles and can't hold a job and is traumatized and just harmed, it's going to cause ripple effects. | ||
| It destroys their life. | ||
| And then all the kids they would have had or do have are affected. | ||
| And it's really hard to break those chains. | ||
| It's really hard. | ||
| People listening know. | ||
| That if you're the one who has to break the chain, that is a really hard thing. | ||
| And I honestly think the only way to do it is through Christ. | ||
| That's just the way you break the chain. | ||
| Chris W. says, Angel Studios, please create an un-woke cinematic universe of fairy tale remakes. | ||
| No, I like the original content, I have to say. | ||
| I like that you guys are telling new stories. | ||
| I think Cinematic Universe is a good idea, but the only one who's ever pulled it off was Marvel, and only for ten years. | ||
| Because after Infinity War, it's just garbage. | ||
| People are getting sick of it. | ||
| We are going to try to create a Cinematic Universe around the Founders. | ||
| See, that's cool. | ||
| I don't think people are sick of Cinematic Universes. | ||
| I think it's that they can't do it. | ||
| Here's how it works, right? | ||
| No, I think people are sick of the fake hero stories. | ||
| Like, made-up hero stories, that's what people are sick of. | ||
| They love to have a universe that they can get into. | ||
| They made Iron Man. | ||
| Actually, it was the Hulk in 2008, I think. | ||
| At the end, there's an end credits scene. | ||
| No, Iron Man was first. | ||
| No, Hulk was. | ||
| Yeah, Hulk was the first Marvel Studios film. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And, uh, at the end of it, uh, General What's-His-Face, I don't remember his name, meets with Robert Downey Jr. | ||
| in a restaurant, and that's the... It was basically just, Iron Man's next! | ||
| Then they made Iron Man. | ||
| And that wasn't even the good Hulk, right? | ||
| No, uh, that was the... I think that was considered to be the better Hulk film. | ||
| Oh, was it? | ||
| Yeah, it was the one with Edward Norton, I think? | ||
| Yeah, is that the one in Brazil? | ||
| I don't know, maybe. | ||
| It looks like Iron Man was released like two months before. | ||
| They were both in 2008. | ||
| Iron Man was May 2nd, and then in June, Hulk came out. | ||
| June 8th was released in the U.S., on June 13th in the U.S. | ||
| Are you sure? | ||
| That's what according to marvelcinematicuniverse.fandom.com, Wikipedia, and IMDB. | ||
| But it's a small discrepancy. | ||
| They were within two months of each other. | ||
| We just loved that story because they went through bankruptcy at the same time when they started the cinematic universe and so we were like... There were some parallels. | ||
| Yeah, it was Iron Man. | ||
| I thought it was the Hulk. | ||
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Wow. | |
| How did the Hulk get... We're destroying Tim's universe right now. | ||
| But I do think that the Hulk actually, like, the story preceded, like, that's where the story fell. | ||
| But the general idea was they didn't actually make a cinematic universe. | ||
| They were just putting plugs for the next movie to get people excited. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But it effectively connected all the films. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so then they were like, hey, let's roll with this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Whereas DC was then like, we're gonna make a cinematic universe, and they just crammed a bunch of garbage into a bunch of films, and it was like, this is nonsense, it doesn't work. | ||
| And that's how it feels crammed, like it doesn't feel organic the way that other things do. | ||
| That's what's happened to Marvel too now, though. | ||
| It's starting to feel more like DC. | ||
| I'm gonna make some new heroes. | ||
| Right. | ||
| CS Cooper says, I loved Wing Feather Saga, can't wait for the next season. | ||
| Also freelancers, I'm going to pitch my novels and movie ideas to Angel Studios. | ||
| feel like expanding to Australia? What about... | ||
| That's a question. Do you feel like... | ||
| We have David's coming from a South African filmmaker. | ||
| There are entire studios in South Africa, the David movie. | ||
| That's as far away as you can get from where we're at. | ||
| What were you asking, Tim? | ||
| Uh, Ripaverse. | ||
| Eric July's comic, it looks like. | ||
| Oh yeah, Ripaverse. | ||
| Oh wow. | ||
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Yeah, why don't you guys, you know, make- Yeah, we- we- somebody can connect us. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Make movies based off- I follow Eric on Twitter, but I don't- I haven't connected with him yet. | ||
| I don't- Come on, Eric. | ||
| Take one of his- I don't know what this is. | ||
| I'm not super familiar with this comic book series other than the massive success he's had with it. | ||
| He has, yeah. | ||
| And then make a movie based on these characters- Could be fun. | ||
| And take over the superhero genre away from the weird stuff that's been going on. | ||
| What do we got? | ||
| We'll grab some more. | ||
| Louis T says, the best movies have been from the 50s, 60s. | ||
| Hollywood is so into remakes that I think you could bring back the best of the classics and make some winning cinema. | ||
| We seem to be out of movie ideas. | ||
| There's gold in the past. | ||
| I disagree. | ||
| I agree that there's a lot of old great movies, but I'm over the remakes. | ||
| Let's get some new culture infused into the machine. | ||
| That's what people are craving. | ||
| I was thinking... Go ahead. | ||
| Oh, people think that the golden age of cinema is behind us. | ||
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I don't think so. | |
| It's just because the model got gutted and there wasn't a path for real risk-taking and storytelling, and we think that's solved for the future. | ||
| The carbon age is upon us. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The diamond age. | ||
| Maybe let's create that, the diamond. | ||
| Diamond. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Platinum. | ||
| Platinum. | ||
| Or Palladium. | ||
| Palladium. | ||
| But that takes too long to say. | ||
| Palladium sounds cooler, though. | ||
| Palladium's hot. | ||
| That's how you do cold fusion. | ||
| Weren't opals kind of a big deal for a while? | ||
| I like opals. | ||
| I might have some around here. | ||
| You were talking about it and then the price of opal spikes and I was like, this guy really knows his stuff. | ||
| I was thinking of the movie The Book of Kells, which was like an Irish production and it was just new and different and sort of based on From what I know about it from Irish mythology, it's not just like, and now we're going to tell Little Red Riding Hood again, which is a fantastic story if you read to your children. | ||
| But there's just more out there, and I think being able to give creators sort of a fresh take and a fresh chance, rather than rehashing the same thing over and over again. | ||
| It would be cool to see, and I think that's something you guys prioritize. | ||
| You got to give them a hero, like just an epic flaw. | ||
| It makes the character so good. | ||
| Yeah, I've never enjoyed the Superman stuff because he's too perfect. | ||
| Which one was it where Superman almost dies and I was like, Oh, is he going to kill him? | ||
| And let his son be like, cause he has a son now that's like half and half. | ||
| And I was like, oh, wouldn't it be awesome if they killed off Superman and then let a | ||
| more flawed version of Superman come up afterwards and then they've just made a good, and DC | ||
| didn't do that. | ||
| I thought that would be kind of cool as if they let him self-sacrifice, let his son who's | ||
| now half human. | ||
| Just man. | ||
| Yeah, half man, half human. | ||
| Then yeah. | ||
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| Right on. | ||
| Any social media? | ||
| Any Twitter? | ||
| I'm at Jeffrey Harman on Twitter. | ||
| At Neil S. Harman. | ||
| N-E-A-L S. Harman. | ||
| Right on. | ||
| People should go see that indie film, Sound of Freedom. | ||
| I've heard it's good. | ||
| Yeah, go watch Sound of Freedom. | ||
| It's still hard to get tickets in most of the country. | ||
| That studio converted to indie film. | ||
| Yeah, that was a studio film converted indie and now then somehow turned into a QAnon thing. | ||
| Well, I'm really glad you guys were both here. | ||
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| I'm Ian Crossland. | ||
| Follow me on X at Ian Crossland. | ||
| That's where I X throughout the day. | ||
| And I want to just get your X profiles again. | ||
| Stop making X the thing. | ||
| It's Jeffrey Harmon. | ||
| Jeffrey J-E-F-F-R-E-Y Harmon. | ||
| H-A-R-M-O-N. | ||
| N-E-A-L-S-H-A-R-M-O-N. | ||
| Got it. | ||
| Thanks, guys. | ||
| Great to see you, man. | ||
| Good to see you, guys. | ||
| I'll see you over there, Jordan. | ||
| I love you, brother. | ||
| Have a nice night, everyone. | ||
| Bye. | ||
| Yeah, what's with making X a thing, bro? | ||
| It's so real. | ||
| You talked to Kellen about this, too. | ||
| They were all on it last night. | ||
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| Anyways, you guys can find me on Bird App, which is what I'll continue to call it. | ||
| Surge.com. | ||
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Thank you, guys. | |
| Pleasure. | ||
| You of you is my alma mater, so I appreciate your guys' work. | ||
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