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July 14, 2023 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool

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Timcast IRL - Pence Says "NOT MY CONCERN" When Tucker Asks About Failing US Cities w/Shannon Bray

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13:44

phil labonte

23:27

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01:07:44

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00:45

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tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Tucker Carlson is hosting this sit down forum with the presidential candidates on the Republican
		side, except for Donald Trump. And the Internet is exploding, says the Postmillennial, because
		Mike Pence has apparently committed political suicide by saying, that's not my concern.
		When asked about U.S.
		cities in reference to wanting to fund Ukraine.
		Now, some are arguing, he didn't really mean that, it's being taken out of context, but the general idea is that Mike Pence is talking about how we've got to fund and support Ukraine.
		Tucker says, what about American cities?
		And then Mike Pence said, unfortunately, whether he meant it or not, that's not my concern.
		He does go on to say we want to fix up our borders and make America better and things like that, but this is interesting.
		This is the new way we are having these political discussions.
		It's not so much the old school style debate, so we'll talk about that.
		Now, because of this, we're seeing a major swing in prediction markets with Vivek Ramaswamy skyrocketing.
		And my favorite line yet, the media saying Donald Trump's campaign pitch is, vote for me so we can get revenge on the government.
unidentified		And everyone's like, okay, that sounds pretty good.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So we'll talk about that.
		We got a bunch of other stories too.
		We got Snow White and the Seven Politically Correct Companions.
		We'll probably want to talk about those issues.
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		Someone Super Chatted us saying, you should give the Super Chat money to Tim Ballard, and I said, yes, absolutely, we'll do that.
		And then I realized, well, hold on.
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		And I did.
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		For which, 15 minutes later, I wrote a check to Tim Ballard's organization for the sum total of $50,000.
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		So I just want to say thank you for everybody who donated and watched last night, and just to give you that update.
		But let's get to the show.
		Joining us tonight to talk about this and a whole lot more is Shannon Bray.
unidentified		Hello, thanks for having me.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Who are you?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What do you do?
unidentified		Well, currently I am running for North Carolina governor.
		That's my side job.
		My real job is I work for Department of Homeland Security and helping fine-tune some of our government systems.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's a tough job.
unidentified		It's a losing job.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But you're a libertarian?
unidentified		I am.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You're running North Carolina?
unidentified		Absolutely.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You're going to get rid of the IRS?
unidentified		Well, I can't really get rid of the IRS.
		I'll just exaggerate.
		But yeah, I'm going to definitely wreck the status quo because you have the Republicans and the Democrats running for so long.
		is the same.
		We're not going to get anywhere without new ideas and new politicians.
		Ultimately, I plan on going there with a wrecking ball and making some serious changes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right on.
		Well, thanks for hanging out.
		This will be fun.
		We also got Phil Labonte.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Hello, everybody.
		My name is Phil Labonte.
		I am the lead singer of All That Remains, anti-communist and counter-revolutionary, and my buddy Brett.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Well, hello.
		Yes, my name is Brett Dasovic.
		I am the host of Pop Culture Crisis right here on YouTube Monday through Friday.
		Happy to be here.
unidentified		Happy Friday, everybody.
		It is Kellan.
		I am pressing the buttons today.
		I'm ready to go when you guys are.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And I'll just add, nobody's here today!
		I'm like, where is everybody?
		Everyone's on vacation or on some mission.
		People are out doing journalism.
		Ian's not here.
		He's out filming.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I got a message like midway through the show.
		They're like, can you do the show tonight?
		I'm like trying to talk and send the message.
		Yes, I can.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Ian's not here.
		And just an announcement for everybody.
		I'm going to be out all next week.
		Seamus will be filling in hosting the show all next week.
		We have a bunch of really, really amazing guests.
		It's going to be absolutely fantastic.
		And, uh, unfortunately for me, something I really, really don't want to do, I am going to a sports injury specialist to get, uh, uh, repairs done on my busted up leg.
		So, uh, it is what it is.
		Nothing I can do about it.
		But let's, uh, let's jump into this first story.
		We got this from the post-millennial.
		Internet explodes with memes after Mike Pence commits career suicide in interview with Tucker Carlson.
		Following Pence's... I'm sorry.
		Social media exploded on Friday after former Vice President Mike Pence spoke with Tucker Carlson at the summit in Iowa, claiming that American cities are, quote, not my concern, while reiterating his support for the US sending more tanks to Ukraine.
		Now, I want to play this clip, make sure I actually play the full clip, because when I first saw it...
		I felt like we weren't getting the proper context, and this might not actually be the full context.
		So... Well, let's just play this clip and see if we have it, and then we'll talk about it.
		Is it playing?
		Oh, come on, Twitter.
		We love Twitter, but not when that happens.
		Alright, where's the audio at?
		Right there, actually.
		All right.
		And now I am... There we go.
tucker carlson ▲ ● ▼		You are distressed that the Ukrainians don't have enough American tanks.
		Every city in the United States has become much worse over the past three years.
		Drive around.
		There's not one city that's gotten better in the United States.
		And it's visible.
		Our economy has degraded.
		The suicide rate has jumped.
		Public filth and disorder and crime have Exponentially increased, and yet your concern is that the Ukrainians, a country most people can't find on a map, who've received tens of billions of U.S.
		tax dollars, don't have enough tanks.
		I think it's a fair question to ask, like, where's the concern for the United States in that?
mike pence ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it's not my concern.
		Tucker, I've heard that routine from you before, but that's not my concern.
		I'm running for president of the United States because I think this country's in a lot of trouble.
		I think Joe Biden has weakened America at home and abroad.
		And as President of the United States, we're going to restore law and order in our cities, we're going to secure our border, we're going to get this economy moving again, and we're going to make sure that we have men and women on our courts at every level that will stand for the right to life and defend all the God-given liberties enshrined in our Constitution.
		Anybody that says that we can't be the leader of the free world and solve our problems at home has a pretty small view of the greatest nation on Earth.
		We can do both.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So, before the show we were watching this, the question was, did he literally just say that American cities are not his concern?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And Phil, do you want to give your point of view on that?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, look, I think that he was answering the previous time that Tucker said, was referring to his concerns. So Tucker says,
		you're concerned with Ukraine and giving money to Ukraine, etc.
		And then Tucker goes on to say, there's all these problems at home.
		And then Tucker uses the phrase concern again.
		I think that Pence was replying to the first time that he used,
		first time that Tucker used concern, because then Pence goes on to talk about the problems in
		the United States.
		You know, and so...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But what's the finality of his statement?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		He does talk about Ukraine.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He says, if you think we can't be the leader of the free world, then you've got a small view.
		Yeah.
		I'm sorry, man.
		I hear what you're saying, and part of me is like, maybe we give him the benefit of the doubt, but I can't do it.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I'm not giving him... I mean, I wouldn't vote for his ass anyway, so it doesn't matter.
unidentified		Who would?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I mean, seriously.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I do think it's funny that everybody... This is going viral.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There's like 50,000 tweets in the past couple hours or whatever, and I'm just like, ain't nobody was gonna vote for this guy in the first place.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		What's he trending at on the...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Unpredicted market.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Three cents.
unidentified		He's below Nikki Haley.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It's only worth talking about for jokes.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Or to discuss what did people mean.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Stars and Garters, my friends, we just refreshed this to pull up Mike Pence's numbers.
		Vivek Ramaswamy is nearly tied with Ron DeSantis.
		Ron dropping down now to 15 cents, with Vivek skyrocketing to 13 up 3, with Ron down 1.
		Closing in on second place.
		These are not polls, these are prediction markets.
		There is a slight correlation, obviously, with polling.
		But these are people making bets on who they think is going to win.
		And what you're basically seeing is real-time I would say decentralized computing power as to what may actually happen.
		So these prediction markets have a tendency to be correct, but it's not absolute.
		What do you think?
unidentified		On the prediction market?
		I think your statement is the equivalent of going home and telling your wife that, hey, she didn't mean anything.
		The cashier who checked me out was pretty professional.
		So it doesn't really matter what you say after that statement.
		It did a lot of damage.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		And it doesn't really acknowledge that I think he's missing his base, right?
		That people here, especially people who would already be more inclined to vote for him than say someone on the left, don't want us in Ukraine and they don't want us involved in a bunch of globalist nonsense.
		So he's missing the mark anyways by talking about whether the fact that we can do both.
		People don't want you focusing on both.
		They want you focusing here at home right now.
unidentified		I don't care if we send tanks to Ukraine.
unidentified		Personally.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		You don't.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You mean you don't care if we're doing it, as in, you don't care to do it?
unidentified		No, no, no.
unidentified		I don't care to send weapons of mass destruction over to a country.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It sounded like you were saying, let them do it.
unidentified		I don't care.
		Oh, no, no, no.
		Yeah, yeah.
		Thanks for that clarification.
		I don't want my tax dollars fighting another person for it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You almost pulled a Mike Pence thing.
unidentified		Yes, yes, yes.
		Political suicide.
		Well, you know, I'm a libertarian, so it's kind of hard to kill me off.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		That's why I was like, what?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So, ultimately, I think the big news yesterday, which we only talked about a little bit, Joe Biden calling in reserves, selected reserves and ready reserves to be sent to Europe.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry, man.
		Our culture today does not support this kind of foreign intervention.
		For whatever reason, you know what I think it is?
		I think Ron Paul has a lot to do with it.
		I think Ron Paul was speaking up in the late 2000s to a lot of young people, people my age, and not to mention combined with the anti-war stuff that was coming during the Bush years.
		And then all of a sudden we're like, you got Democrats saying no war, you got Ron Paul running as a Republican saying no war.
		Hey, you know what?
		Most of us agree with that position and don't see a good reason for U.S.
		intervention overseas.
		We look back at history, we look at what the Founding Fathers thought of this, and we say ultimately, yeah, we shouldn't be doing it.
		Now that's a big problem for the neocons and the neolibs and people like Mike Pence who are like, we're leaders of the free world.
		Yeah, what he's really saying is, your labor, the work you do every day, when you look at your paycheck and you see that negative number for income tax, it's going to bombs, and guns, and tanks, and now they're deploying more U.S.
		personnel to reserves.
		That's terrifying.
		To be sent to Europe for this, what is it, Atlantic Resolve or whatever it's called?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Why?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		How about our borders?
		How about our roads?
		And that's exactly what Tucker was saying to Mike Pence.
		I gotta tell you.
		This is not his concern.
		Right, if he couldn't navigate that question properly, and he had to.
		Imagine this.
		You nailed it when you said she didn't mean that much to me, to your wife.
		Mike Pence is basically saying, To the face of all of these people begging to know why our money is going overseas, don't worry, it's somewhat worth it for some vague and nebulous reason, but I'll take care of the rest, too.
		It's exactly as you described telling your wife, don't worry, she doesn't mean anything to me.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Establishment Republicans are trying to have their cake and eat it, too.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		They really want to, because there are still hawks in the Republican Party that want to see the United States Be an expansive power and they want to see the United States return to a situation similar to probably prior to the Iraq war.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		They love the Bush years too.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you know, so I mean to think that to think that he's not trying to play to both I think is probably misguided because like he's got he has to get Trump's You know, hypothetically, if he's going to win, he has to convince enough Trump voters, and he has to convince people in the middle.
		People in the middle are not going to be compelled by a guy that's essentially a religious fundamentalist, or borderline at least.
		He's a very religious person.
		I don't know if we call him fundamentalist, but whatever.
		He's very religious.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I don't think so.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think he's like stock neocon with a religious tint for the purpose of getting votes.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Well yeah, he was the reason why it was such a good thing for Trump, right?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Because he colored him in just the way he needed to be.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		He was supposed to be the establisher, but he was also supposed to be the guy that made it okay for the evangelicals to vote for Trump.
		That was part of the reason why they picked him too, is because of his... I mean, I had a bunch of friends that are progressives that were like, no really, he tried to shock the gay out of people when Pence got elected, or when Trump got elected.
		So like, there was a whole lot of people that were afraid of it, at least afraid of his religious bona fides or whatever.
		But he's got to get the middle and I don't think that there's any kind of... I don't see a path for him just overall.
		I don't see how he gets the middle and satisfies Trump voters and stuff who want nothing to do with Ukraine and also satisfies like the FAFO morons on Twitter, you know?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		It's antithetical to the populist movement that's going on right now, which is very, very anti-war.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Now a lot of people, I think there's a lot of people for some reason who like Pence who are like, come on, you know, he didn't really mean that.
		And it's just, you know, my response to that is like, okay, fine, fair point, whatever, if that's what you want to believe.
		But in the world of politics, let's just talk superficially.
		Pence just He just stumbled on a black sandbag on stage and fell down in front of everybody.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Doesn't matter if that's what he wanted you to believe or even what he meant.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		What matters is what people take from what you said, and the moment you give them a soundbite that juicy, it doesn't matter what you meant because history won't remember it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He just fell up the stairs.
		Three times in a row.
		But I mean, look, who likes Mike Pence?
		What does he have to offer us?
		But for real, can we name any real policy of Pence's?
		I can tell you this, I know one policy of his.
		More money and weapons for Ukraine.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Never go into a room with a woman without your wife there.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		That's the only policy of his I remember.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Look, if you're in D.C.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		and trying to navigate D.C., it's probably not a bad idea.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's a very good idea.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		The Pence rule, I endorse that.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		That's the only thing I remember though.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Mike Pence was basically whispering to you, hey dude, it's me too era, make sure your wife is with you at all times.
		And then they attack him for it, for that reason probably.
		Yeah, because, you know, some of these weirdos want to lie, cheat, and steal, and accuse people of all sorts of nasty stuff.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		They made a whole big deal about him calling his wife mother.
		Because it was always, are you not allowed to go to dinner?
		You have mother, and blah, blah, blah, you know?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		And then Kavanaugh happens, and they wonder why it was such a big deal.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Like, oh, shocking.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's talk about Vivek Ramaswamy, because we have this clip here from Tucker as well.
		Vivek tweeted a clip.
		I want to play for you guys.
		I'll just play it.
vivek ramaswamy ▲ ● ▼		You know, my parents came to this country with almost no money.
		I've gone on to found multi-billion dollar companies.
		And then people tell me, oh, that's because you had privilege.
		They tell me white privilege.
unidentified		It's sort of an interesting... It's kind of interesting.
tucker carlson ▲ ● ▼		Do you tell them?
vivek ramaswamy ▲ ● ▼		Tucker's great.
		I take the blindfold off.
		Do you tell them?
		But the interesting answer is, actually what I do tell them, Tucker, is that I did have privilege.
		I didn't grow up in money, but I had two parents in the house, a mother and a father, with a focus on education and a faith in God.
		And you know what?
		That is the ultimate privilege.
		That if I'm going to enjoy that, every kid in this country ought to enjoy it too.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So, from that clip, and the reason I wanted to play it is, I'm gonna refresh for you right now the prediction markets for the GOP presidential nomination, which currently has Vivek Ramaswamy at 13 cents, Ron DeSantis at 15, and Trump at 62.
		Trump, the clear frontrunner, let's refresh and see where we're at.
		And, Vivek has dropped down by 1 cent, Ron DeSantis has gone up by 1 cent.
		These things are very much in flux.
		Considering these clips are still going around right now, but Vivek Ramaswamy has skyrocketed.
		I mean, if we take a look at this, let's go to 90 days in the prediction market.
		Take a look at it.
		He's jumping.
		He is climbing the ranks.
		DeSantis is dropping down rather quickly.
		I do think, and again, these are not polls, but I think the people who are tracking the political landscape, who are making bets on what the outcome is going to be, I think we're very close to seeing Vivek Ramaswamy take second place relatively soon.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I think that, like what Vivek said at the very end, like I'm an agnostic and I agree with him.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, hands down.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That flip was fantastic.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, absolutely.
		Family privilege.
		That's why he's advancing in the polls like this, because he speaks, I think that he speaks in a very authentic way.
		He doesn't sound like a politician, I don't think, or at least he doesn't come across like a politician to people, because he does sound very polished, but I don't feel like he's I like listening to him.
		I think all his arguments are compelling.
		And maybe that's my own personal opinion because I'm rather I find his his his
unidentified		Arguments compelling so I like listening to him. Yeah, I think all his arguments are compelling
		I just everything he is He wants to dismantle the government in various pieces and
		I think what he says a lot is some smart solution So I'm happy that he's getting this out to get a little bit
		more name recognition And I'm surprised that the Santas has followed so much
		But you know he has so much negative attention now that I mean with with Disney whether you're right or wrong
		It is anti-cannabis whether that's right or wrong. He's just kind of like just just driving it into the ground
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah you know look Don't ask me why.
		I've got my opinions on these things.
		But what I've been saying to many dissented supporters is just look at the prediction markets and the polls.
		He's going down.
		That is not for me wanting it to happen.
		I think he's an excellent leader who really has his ear to the ground on all these issues.
		But I think he's doing a very terrible job campaign-wise.
		But even if you think I'm wrong, I'm curious why he's in this decline.
		If you ignore it, it'll only get worse.
unidentified		Yeah, and his wife's a perfect running mate for him.
		She's out.
		She's well-polished.
		So she's adding, I think, a lot of value, but then at the same time, he's obviously crashing.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Not enough value.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What do you guys want?
		Uh, I would... Libertarian.
		Libertarian.
		Well, you're a libertarian, too, Phil.
unidentified		Man, if Vivek and RFK made it, I feel like America wins.
unidentified		To just the voting.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Why RFK, though?
unidentified		Disavow.
unidentified		I'm a big fan of him.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He's got a big, long history of very authoritarian positions.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Disavow.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Disavow.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Here's what I would say, personally.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		For the Democrat leadership, he's the best they got.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Because with all his bad policies, he's better than all the rest.
unidentified		Way better.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, so I would love to see that.
		And so for me, it's kind of like, I'm not a big out libertarian, libertarian party kind of guy.
		I'm actually more like fairly liberal on the political spectrum.
		So I look at an RFK Jr.
		like, you know, I think he's really trying to be a populist.
		He's really trying to reach the people.
		And he's speaking about a lot of current issues that are good.
		So we've talked about the power of like a Trump-Kennedy ticket.
		But I don't want to ask you about Republicans, because you're a Libertarian.
		Is there someone you want to see run for the Libertarian ticket?
unidentified		I've seen a couple people who are running for the Libertarian ticket, but yeah, I don't quite feel that they're quite ready for the task.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Who's announced for the Libertarians?
unidentified		Chase.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Oh, Chase is from Georgia, right?
unidentified		Yeah, Chase Oliver.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Chase Oliver?
unidentified		Yeah, I believe he's announced.
		But yeah, I mean, I know who he is.
		I followed him in the Georgia election.
		I know where he got his spotlight from with the whole Senate election.
		But, you know, Shane Hazel did it the year before.
		I did it the same year as Shane Hazel did in North Carolina.
		You know, getting three percent and breaking the barrier and, you know, switching the election, Happens every year somewhere along the line and that's really kind of what he's writing.
		I don't really know enough about him.
		I don't agree with them on some of the QIA issues the LGBT, you know, yeah, which can it chase?
		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, libertarians tend not to really agree with each other, you know?
unidentified		Yeah, you know, a lot of them just say, uh, you know, many things aren't good, but at
unidentified		the same time, we live in a society where you just can't run amok.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I love that meme though with groundskeeper Willie, and he's like, libertarians, they
unidentified		ruined libertarianism!
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I mean, the first thing that, or the best way to know that you're an actual libertarian is another libertarian says, you're not a real libertarian.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		That's it, you know?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		We're getting into it right now.
		I know a lot of people said, oh, it's so early.
		We're only a few weeks in for a lot of these candidates, but this is where the pickup happens because the primaries are coming, I think, what, March of next year?
		So that's gonna be a big deal.
		It is a very, very big deal historically that Joe Biden is even facing a primary as the incumbent with one more term available to him.
		That's surprising.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I don't, I mean, it's, I think that it's surprising that there are people that are kind of speaking up, but at the same time, it's also surprising that he's actually the president because he's, it's really clear that he's not the guy running the show.
unidentified		He's a puppet.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I mean, we've got, it's run by the bureaucracy, the existing bureaucracy, and it's not Joe Biden that's making the calls.
		I mean.
unidentified		He's the perfect candidate for him.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but not anymore.
unidentified		No, I mean in the future because he's not in charge.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I wonder if the reason they ran Biden was because they feared prosecution.
		If Trump won, Biden's in trouble.
		If any other Democrat won, Biden doesn't have any control and may get thrown under the bus.
		So let's say 2020, you know, let's just say hypothetically, Newsom gets elected for all
		his faults and problems.
		When stories start breaking about Biden's, their corruption, say these stories out of
		like Politico that came out, you know, almost 10 years ago.
		You know, any other Democrat might be like, look, we're not going to sacrifice the future
		of our administration because the mistakes and the problems you encountered.
		I do think they'd still probably protect him, but he would not have the power of the presidential seat to protect himself.
		So I wonder if a large component was, oh, Trump started looking into what we were doing in Ukraine.
		We better.
		We better get Biden in so he can put an end to this.
		Because that really was the big issue.
		Biden did not announce he was running for president.
		Trump calls Ukraine and says, hey, what's up with this video?
		They then claim in the media Donald Trump was digging up dirt on his political opponent.
		As if the only thing they could have done is been like, he's running for office.
		You can't do that.
		You can't look at these crimes.
		And then now he's got to run for office.
		You know what I mean?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		And Democrat media establishment fell in line right away and started immediately shifting the narrative that direction.
unidentified		Yeah.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I mean, as soon as there was someone that was establishment approved, the media was going to go all in anyways.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		There wasn't a whole lot of question about that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Who's it going to be now?
		Is it going to be like Newsom?
		I mean, overwhelmingly, the prediction markets are saying Joe Biden.
		He's at like 60%.
		He's the incumbency to be at 100%.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		It is interesting seeing the way that like the fact that there's any competition at all kind of proves that if you're not paying close attention, you wonder how that could possibly be.
		Because if you're not paying close attention, you just assume he's doing a great job.
		You don't know what's actually going on in the world.
		But if there's any competition at all, it does prove that there is a bit of a dent in the armor there.
		And it's hard for the average person to see, but just even hearing about an RFK, if you're somebody that doesn't pay close attention to politics, I would hope that would at least wake them up and be like, why is there anyone even questioning this at all?
		You could actually, I guess, mention his age would be a big part of it.
		Like a lot of people, even if they're not politically initiated, might wonder why is a guy his age going to be running again?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Trump's fairly old as well.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What is 75?
unidentified		He's a year younger than Biden, he just doesn't show it.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		No wait, he's more than a year.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he's four years.
		Four or five.
		He will be the same age, like he would have been the same age at the next election that Biden was when he got elected.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And I think, what was RFK?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He's 69 or 70?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he's like 69 or 70.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We need some younger people.
		I can absolutely understand- Vivek!
		Yeah, Vivek's what, 38?
		He might be 37.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		He's young.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But Ron DeSantis, too.
		I certainly understand that.
		But I gotta tell you, man, if Ron is hurting this much in the polls and they're not course correcting, I think that's a failure of leadership.
		I love his policy.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I think the reason Ron is kind of tanking is because Ron doesn't have the charisma people thought that he was gonna have.
		Like, when he gets onto the national stage, people aren't, like, he's not magnetic when he's on stage.
		He doesn't have the charisma.
		He's not like Barack Obama.
		He's not Bill Clinton.
		He's not Donald Trump.
		And those are three people that had really, really significant charisma.
		And there's an argument that Bush had really good charisma as well.
		So, that could be it.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		But a big part of that is people like the idea that he was more stoic and that he could be a version of Trump without being more bombastic and over the top, but that doesn't work once you actually have to come out and speak more regularly.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Just because that was an argument doesn't mean that was actually what the country was going to feel, you know what I mean?
		And I'm just saying that this could be, I don't know, but it would make sense that the more people get exposed to him and hear him speak outside of just in
		the context of Florida, the less they actually like him.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		When he, when he, when he felt like, because I'm just, I'm not paying as close attention
		to that as I, as I was before.
		But when somebody mentioned like his stance on weed, I'm like, really, really?
		Like, even if that is your stance, why are you talking about it now?
		Why wouldn't you hold off and just not mention it?
		It seems like a disconnection.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		There are still Republicans that like that, you know?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, we can talk about the viability of the Republicans, and there will be more developments, of course.
		Maybe Ron DeSantis will shift some of his campaign, release it or take off.
		It is early.
		There is a lot of opportunity for him there.
		But let's talk about the other side here.
		Joe Biden.
		What's he currently up to?
		I have this tweet for you from Andrew at Don't Walk Run.
		He said, here's the raw footage of creepy Joe Biden trying to sniff slash eat a random Finnish child.
		I'm gonna play this video for you.
		Hat on the shoulder and he walks away.
		Now, the first thing I want to say is When Biden sees this little kid and starts doing the om-nom-nom thing or whatever, and they're all laughing... If this was a family member being endearing to a grandchild, I might be like, you know, whatever.
		But here's the bigger issue.
		For one, this is a strange guy doing... What are you doing to this kid, man?
		That's inappropriate.
		But also, it's the double dip.
		The double dip.
		Watch this clip.
		I'm gonna go slow.
		After he moves back, he goes back in and does this very weird sniff.
		Right there.
		Look at that.
		Slow motion.
		Slow motion.
		And reverse.
		The first one, you can say, oh, he's just being old, you know, family, Uncle Joe, Grandpa Joe, whatever.
		And then, the kid looks distressed.
		Look at the kid's face.
		And he goes in for an extra sniff.
		Right there.
		Sniff.
unidentified		What's with the sniff?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yo, I... I...
		He's sniffin'!
		Sniffin', Joe!
		And he promised he'd stop, you remember this?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		He doesn't.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I guarantee you he does not remember making that promise.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That explains it.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		The man needs a leash.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Like, just imagine being any of the people that have to work on that campaign any time he has to go anywhere near children and they're just like... You think Usher's a menace.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Yes, well, Usher may be a menace, Biden's a worse menace, that is for sure.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So, Joe Biden, he goes out a few years ago, and he's sniffing women and squeezing them
		and touching them.
		Yeah, like adults too, right?
		Yes, yes.
		And then everyone was like, hey, yo, Joe, you gotta stop.
		He comes out and he's like, I'm sorry, I'm just, you know, I'm an old man, we used to
		do this stuff.
		I'm willing to bet when that happened, things like this, he goes back and he gets into the
		vehicle or whatever, and they're like, it's a piece of shit.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It's 88 miles an hour.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, they go, Joe, you need to stop sniffing kids, and he goes, I'm an old man!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I got very few things left in life!
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Give me this one!
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Wait, who was it when they were like, I'm not a pervert, I'm Italian?
		That was Cuomo.
		Yeah, is there a Biden version of that?
		I'm a Delaware man.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then Cuomo went on to post a video of all the time he inappropriately touched people.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		The thing is, I know there were women that were like, I'm fine with it.
		I'm fine with it.
		Because I personally know more than one woman that said to me, yeah, I mean, it's Cuomo.
		He's fine.
		I don't care that he... I'm like, really?
		Well, that is insane to me.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, come on.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Look, the average woman, they see Joe Biden and they're a fan of themselves.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Indeed.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, come on.
unidentified		He's a he's a regular Humphrey Bogart.
unidentified		I'm sure Tara Reid has nothing but... He's a regular Hugh Hefner.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Who's a who's a celebrity from that era that would would have been considered a Well Hugh Hefner back in the day was supposed to be, and he's dead just like Joe.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Wait, wait.
		Who's that Lane guy?
		Lane?
		Jack LaLane?
		Was that his name?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Well, Jack LaLane was a fitness, one of the first fitness guys.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, super ripped.
		And you know, ladies, they loved him.
		You know, he was very in shape.
unidentified		Yeah.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Tara Reid would beg to differ.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		About?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Oh yeah, the Joe Biden phone call!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You gotta make that like the campaign thing because they talk about how Trump can't get suburban women votes because he's like, grody, like, lecherous or whatever.
		Just, okay, well, you know, play the Biden game.
		Just, you know, you go to a voter and be like, I want you to imagine Joe Biden.
		He comes up from behind, slides his hands onto your back.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I'm already done.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Gives you a little squeeze and then a How do you feel?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Would you like to vote for him?
unidentified		Violated.
unidentified		Yeah, would you like to vote for him?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I've never felt more victimized in my life.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I just, I mean, it's been years and here we are once again with a viral video, everybody's sharing it, of Joe Biden sniffing kids.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Honestly though, like, this is only going to get worse because he's not getting, cognitively, he's not getting better.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		And they're getting rid of all the drugs in the White House so he won't be able to take those.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I doubt they're getting rid of it.
		They've already made... No, they're not getting rid of the drugs.
		They're making the problems go away.
		They're not making the drugs go away.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I think they should just let him have them.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Just give them to him.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Remember when they said that the drugs may have been from a journalist?
		That was actually a warning to the journalists who reported on it.
		The Secret Service, they look at the report and they're like, maybe it belonged to a journalist.
unidentified		And they're like, uh, uh, no, no, no.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		With a Stewie Hedward tilt to the side like that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Do you know?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The story goes away.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's exactly what happened.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		At least that's what I want to believe.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Wait, wait, wait.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Could you imagine like, come on, Joe Biden's what, 80 years old now?
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We are gonna get to a point... You know how they say, like, old people are racist because they just don't care anymore?
		Or something like that?
		Like, what happens when we get to that point where they can't control Joe because he's just so old he just doesn't care?
unidentified		And he's like, look, you know, my life expectancy was two years ago!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I got nothing, you know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You got no leverage anymore.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Sounds like he's on the floor of the Senate in 1996 or four or something.
unidentified		They're going to kill him off and then do the, what's that Bernie thing where they just kind of, yeah, bring his body around.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, we can have Bernie.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Oh, we can have Bernie.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But look, look, look.
		What do you threaten Joe Biden with?
		They're gonna go to him and say like, look Joe, we want you to make these moves.
		He's like, I'm 80.
		I'm past my life expectancy.
		And they're like, well, you have a son, don't you?
		And he's like, oh, are you kidding me?
		You think I'm going to respond to a threat to that guy?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		They have to withhold ice cream.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		That's the only thing they have over him.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, no.
		The other way around.
		Positive reinforcement.
		They say, OK, OK, fine.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What if we get you some tagandas?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He's like, All right.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		We'll get you some Ben and Jerry's and we'll have a clown feed it to you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, but in all seriousness, there's got to come a point where Joe Biden just... There was that video where I think he was campaigning in like 2020 and some guy asked him a question and he just snaps and starts going like, what, what, what?
		And I think that's because he's just like, I don't care!
		I'm so done!
		And he's in this position.
		I feel like You know, a lot of people have wondered, like, why would they try and replace him in the primary?
		Isn't Joe the deep state?
		Like, wouldn't he just step down voluntarily if they really wanted someone else?
		And I'm like, yeah, maybe he's just gone rogue.
		Maybe he's just like, I do whatever I want, I don't care, you got nothing over me.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Maybe they have a schedule and they just told him, wait, just hold out until we announce blah blah blah or whatever, you know.
		I really don't think that he has a significant amount of input.
		I really feel like he's like, you know, handlers do the whole deal for us.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		That's what they love about it, right?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		And every time they think about getting rid of him, they look at Kamala.
unidentified		They're like, a couple more kids is fine.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		We'll keep going.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It's fine.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Look at this.
		This is the prediction market for the Democrats.
		Joe Biden's at 65 cents.
		He is the sitting president and incumbent.
		And there's people, a lot of them, 35 percent who think, yeah, he ain't going to win.
		Gavin Newsom, you know what it is though?
		What you gotta understand about these prediction markets is there's also a value bet in that, look if I spend 21 cents on a share of Gavin Newsom, that's nearly a five times return if he gets the nomination.
		That's really what it's about.
		I still think it's fair to consider It should be 100 for Joe Biden.
		The fact that Predict It decided to make a contract on if he would even be the nominee says a lot.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		He's the freaking guy that saved democracy, didn't he?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		He came and swooped in and said, yo, I'm saving democracy from the Donald Trump and Megamericans and like he's the one who was like the saving grace for America, right?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But I like that.
		Saving democracy from Trump supporters.
		That's what he said, yeah.
		Basically saying, like, removing them from the democratic process.
		100%.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		That's the point.
		Like, that, like, I talk about, like, Maoism and stuff a lot.
		Like, that's what he, when they say our democracy, the people that are the deplorables are not included.
		They are not part of their democracy.
		That is a distinction between people that support them and people that don't.
		It's the same kind of crap that Mao did too.
		Mao would, it was, I'm saying it in Chinese, but it was the same thing.
		It was our democracy because they use the same phrases.
		They use democracy and they talk about it, but under, with their understanding, you're, it's not a full democracy unless everybody has an equal voice, not just, you know, everyone gets a vote.
		Well, I feel like it was the same thing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I feel like what they're basically saying is, our democracy refers to us all in agreement with each other.
unidentified		Yes!
unidentified		100%!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You guys are not in agreement, so we must remove you from the process.
unidentified		100%!
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		That's why they also laugh at the idea when you point out the fact that it's not a democracy, that you do live in a constitutional republic, and there are things that that entails, and then they laugh at that because that's not actually what they're talking about.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
		Absolutely.
		That is the line that they're using.
		There's so much stuff.
		Again, James Lindsay from New Discourses, he did a podcast on this, and he went through a speech that Mao did that was translated to English, and then he said, look, this right here that Mao was saying is the exact same thing that Kamala Harris means when she says this.
		This right here that Mao was saying is the exact same thing when you translate it to English that Joe Biden is saying here.
		So there's this When I say that there are communist influence throughout all of our government, it goes through the bureaucracy, all the way up through actual, like, DSA members, but all the way to the presidency.
		There are some people that repeat the things knowingly that they're communist things, and there are some people that repeat them without knowing that they're repeating communist propaganda.
		But there's a ton of communist propaganda.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		In the media, right?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		In the media and in the government.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Who is the CNN reporter that, like, they had him change his shot and there was, like, a picture of Mao and his wall behind it?
unidentified		Do you remember that?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, I saw that.
		And they're just like, ignore that.
		Or they just expect you to not know.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		These are not the claims you're looking for.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		This is not the Mao you're looking for.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Well, he's known for plagiarism, so maybe he's consciously going through and reading it thinking it's Chinese, nobody will know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You guys ready for this one?
		I love this story.
		This is a meme.
		ABC News says Trump's unprecedented campaign pitch elect me to get revenge on the government.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		MAGA BABY!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Because they write this unironically and Libertarians, post-liberals, Trump supporters are screen-grabbing it and posting the Chad meme with just, yes.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It's the most compelling thing I've ever heard a politician say in my life.
		Yes.
		Get revenge on the government.
		Sign me up.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Look at this.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Donald Trump has told supporters not to just see him as a candidate, but as, quote, your retribution.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yes!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Milo said this.
		Milo Yiannopoulos on the show said this.
		He said, in his comeback bid for the White House, the former president, twice impeached but twice acquitted, now twice indicted, haha, has vowed that if reelected, he will wield his power to personally remake parts of the federal government to a degree that historian Mark Updegrove said was unprecedented.
		Trump has promised to hamstring perceived enemies, including the DOJ, which is currently investigating him, and target Republican boogeyman like President Joe... Republican boogeyman like President Joe Biden.
		It sounds like they're saying Joe Biden's a Republican.
		He swore in June to appoint a special prosecutor to go after the Bidens.
		Okay, good.
		And that he would totally obliterate the deep state.
		I'm not hearing any insult or negativity, you know, referring to a conspiratorial view of how the government operates.
		This is the final battle.
		Either they win or we win, he said.
unidentified		The libertarians just got out-libertarianed by the bump stock guy!
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		What are you doing?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, come on, what do you got to say, you libertarian?
unidentified		Look, yeah, I mean, I think it's an excellent speech, but what's his policy actually going to be?
		How is he really going to do it?
		We know that he's a middle finger, but is he going to take out the IRS?
		Is he going to take out DOE?
		What is he actually going to do?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		DeSantis said he was going to do that, didn't he?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Something to that effect?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		He talked about Department of Education, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, education, education.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Which is, I mean, I love it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If all Donald Trump at this point has is, they have slighted me, and I will fire them, I'll be like, okay, take my vote.
		Fire them all.
		Can Libertarians disagree?
		I mean, you know, fire them all.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		And I don't think that he would be entirely successful, but it would be a lot of fun to watch him try.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think he'd be successful at this point.
		I just want to stress, I don't think he did a perfect job in his first term.
		I didn't vote for him in 2016.
		I think he did some moderately good things with, in terms of foreign policy, I really liked, and some culture war issues.
		He was very late in the game, too.
		So he's not, he wasn't my first choice.
		A year ago I said DeSantis, because DeSantis has been on top of the game when it comes to culture war issues.
		But Donald Trump comes out, and he's like, don't know, don't care, I want revenge, I'm gonna fire everybody, and I'm like, I see fire in his eyes.
		That's all I can ask for.
unidentified		Well, it's not necessarily about the American people.
unidentified		It's his revenge, but we all may benefit from his revenge.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know what I mean?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Like, considering how selfish and narcissistic the guy is, I want him to make it personal because that's way more of a motivator than me.
unidentified		Right.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Like, I'm not motivated.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Donald Trump doesn't give a crap about me.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If I'm standing on the sidewalk and there's like You know, a guy behind me and I see Trump barreling full speed power walking all angry.
		I'm getting out of the way, right?
		I'm gonna be like, whoa, I'm not gonna don't let me stand in your way, sir.
		And that may mean you are not getting what you want, but the guy behind you turns out to be a mugger that was after you.
		And so I'm like, I'll take it.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		If you're in a war zone and your enemy gets hit with friendly fire, thumbs up.
		That's cool.
		If they're gonna smoke each other, take each other out, fine.
		If Donald Trump wants to go in there and actually make cuts, go.
		Get him.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Isn't it funny how terrified the corporate press is though?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It's delicious.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Why are journalists so scared that someone would fire bureaucrats?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Access.
		Because they're friendly with the bureaucrats now, and because they have their personal email addresses and their personal home phone numbers, and sometimes they get scoops.
		So it's all about access.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		One of the hardest things I think would be, if he's talking about getting rid of the deep state, it's the unelected officials, right?
		You can fire all the heads of departments you want, but all of those heads of departments have trained people under them who think like they do, who they've groomed for those positions farther up.
		It's not just getting rid of whoever you're talking about, whether you're talking about CIA, all of these departments, there's going to be somebody that's going to come in there because it's not like this is one generation of a problem.
		This is multi-generational, and it will take more than one president if you're going to actually turn things around, at least in my opinion.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		And I don't know for sure what the legality is of the president actually getting rid of cabinet level... Well, that's what I'm saying.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		What does that mean, getting rid of?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Abolishing.
		So when I say get rid of, I mean abolish at the cabinet level.
		So the whole department, from the seat on the cabinet all the way down to the ground enforcers of whatever department we're talking about.
		Whether it be HUD, whether it be the Department of Energy, which I don't know that we can do that because of the nuclear stuff.
		But still, the Department of the Interior, DOT, IRS, well, that's part of the Treasury, so that would be a little different, but like, you know, there's plenty of stuff that he could get rid of as the executive and just be like, get out of here, in the Justice Department alone.
		He could get rid of stuff with the FBI by executive order.
		He can get rid of stuff with the ATF by executive order.
		If I understand correctly, I could be wrong, but that's the way that I believe because he is the executive.
		He can get rid of stuff in the Department of Justice.
		Like, that would be a great place to start.
		FBI and ATF and stuff.
		But the more that he's looking to cut, whoever's looking to cut the most, that's who I'm behind.
		The second most cuts is the second person I'm behind.
		Like, it's that simple.
		Like, I don't give a crap about any of their personalities.
		Who's going to shrink the federal government the most?
		Because right now it's the biggest government in human history.
		So don't tell me we can't cut.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Trump should go to libertarian rallies and be like, I'm gonna fire everybody.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		He should.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		He should have gone to Porkfest.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Seriously?
		Yeah!
		And they're gonna be like, I really don't want to vote for Bumpstock Donnie, but...
		If he really is gonna fire these people, and you can see the fire in his eyes and the want for revenge, I mean, you might actually get it.
		That's the difficult libertarian position, I guess.
		Even Dave Smith was like, there's some foreign policy stuff he did that was good, and it's like, man.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		But also, didn't they also question, why didn't you pardon Assange?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Why didn't you pardon Snowden?
unidentified		How'd he done that?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I would have really liked to have seen that.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		It felt like a lot of that stuff, the pardons at the end, a lot of that stuff felt very performative, and there was more important real change that he could have made through that stuff that would have been, even on the way out, would have been good for his re-election campaign.
unidentified		Snowden and Assange, had he done that, he would have won the hearts of a lot of libertarians just because of that move.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We did have Don Jr.
		on, and he did say it's time we do pardon Assange and Snowden.
		I'm not even as bullish on Snowden, to be completely honest.
		You know, Snowden is like a middle-of-the-road thing for me.
		Assange is a no-brainer.
		Assange shouldn't be charged at all.
		He's an international journalist who was wrongly charged with deep BS.
		They falsely accused him of abusing women.
		Not true.
		Now they're accusing him of espionage.
		Literally a journalist.
		What does he do?
		He gets information.
		He publishes information.
		Snowden was a leaker.
		Snowden took information, gave it to journalists without knowing what it was.
		There's an argument to be made that it was so good, what he did, exposing things like X-Key Score and, you know, NSA spying, that it's high time we say, look, you know, no more exile.
		Come on home, man.
		Like, we are happy we got this information.
		But the thing about Snowden, it's like, you know, the big issue is he did not know what he was giving out.
		He knew some of it, but he just took a bulk thing.
		I'm not all about encouraging that.
		I like whistleblowers.
		I think people should expose darkness and corruption.
		But we have security in this country for a reason.
		Like, I like this country.
		I like the fact that we defend ourselves.
		You know, you can't just leak everything.
		But that being said, even Don Jr.
		said, I think it's high time we do.
		Pardon him.
		That doesn't mean Trump Sr.
		would do it.
		But it does show that there is at least a sphere of influence in the Trump world that is starting to be like...
		Let's roll with it.
		I do think the reason Trump wanted Assange brought to the U.S.
		was because Assange knows things pertaining to the Clintons, the establishment, neolibs, neocons, and Trump wanted that information and Assange would not give it up because Assange has integrity and he is a journalist and he protects his sources.
		I think that was a strong component for Trump.
		He knew, he's like, this guy's got information we need and won't give it up.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I also think that the intel agencies are a big part of why we need to pare back, right?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		You cannot do a lot of this unless we figure out a way to limit the influence of these intel agencies who are essentially responsible to no one.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Accountable to no one. You're right, but the information that we're worried about the intel agencies
		collecting is the information that we're voluntarily giving to all the social media companies and Google and stuff. So
		I get it you're right and I would I don't know what the way or the
		best way to prevent the government from just subpoenaing it because the these companies are just
		throwing the information at the feds.
		As soon as the feds ask, they're just like, yeah, yeah, because again, access, because of favor with the most powerful government ever.
		So, I don't know what the right way to fix it is, but they've already got the information, you know, your social media companies and stuff like that, they all have the information out there.
		So, for the Feds, it's just a matter of sending the subpoena.
unidentified		We've given all of our stuff up.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		But it also seems like the focus is increasingly more domestic, right?
		We are not focusing overseas the way we used to.
		We're focusing a lot more on domestic terrorism with Patriot Front and other such federal organizations.
		It just feels like that's where a lot of those cuts would need to come, but it's going to be very hard to do that because they're so burrowed into our government.
unidentified		Well, the whole Patriot Act itself, you know, it's called the Patriot Act because it sounds awesome, but all it is... Patriot Front!
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Patriot Front!
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Another group, you know, domestic terrorists, and that's a big part of our focus here in this country now, is they're using that as a weapon against regular Americans who are not idiots like Patriot Front.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		That's the federal theater, kid.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I want to pull up this here tweet.
		We have a big story.
		We didn't get into it yesterday because, of course, we were talking about Sound of Freedom, but Twitter is now going to be paying its personalities who generate a certain amount of impressions.
		Basically, Twitter will operate in a similar way that YouTube does, that if you produce content that gets views and those views deliver ads, you get a cut of these ads.
		I was pleasantly surprised, rather abruptly, to get a pop-up on Twitter that said they were paying me about six grand.
		And I'm like, I didn't even do anything.
		Like, I barely even use Twitter.
		But I want to pull up this tweet from Brian Krasenstein.
		I think Brian has been on a tear lately with some excellent tweets, and this one is very good.
		For those that aren't familiar, he is a liberal personality, but check out this one.
		This is good.
		He tweets, the most entertaining outcome is the most likely outcome.
		I believe it was Elon who said that, wasn't it?
		Or was that a quote from somebody else?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		That's Musk, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Elon said that.
		And he goes, blocked by Trump on Twitter in 2018, unblocked by Trump on Twitter in 2019, banned from Twitter in 2019, unbanned by Elon in 2022, made $25,000 from Twitter in 2023, at this rate I'll be CFO of Twitter by 2024 and Trump's VP by 25.
		$25,000 from Twitter in 2023. At this rate, I'll be CFO of Twitter by 2024 and Trump's VP by 25.
		So here's what's funny about this story. Of course, we'll get into the Twitter stuff.
		But Taylor Lorenz, you know where you love her, wrote, Far-right Twitter influencers first on Elon Musk's monetization
		scheme.
		I love it.
		Andrew Tate.
		I am pretty sure that Brian Krasenstein, the liberal Biden voter, made more money than Andrew Tate.
		And the Krasensteins, because it's his brother as well, even pointed out that between them they made way more money than some of these other personalities, and Taylor Lorenz is calling it far-right and omitting them from the story.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I far-righted before I came over here for the show.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I went to the gym and I was doing cardio.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I'm sure that JoJo from Jers and Brooklyn Dad are doing fine on Twitter as far as monetization.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		They don't get it from Twitter, though.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		They get it from the DNC.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Yes, exactly, right?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Did you say, Kellan, earlier that you said that Taylor Lorenz was offered to box with Ashley Sinclair?
unidentified		I think Ashley Sinclair put the offer out there.
unidentified		It's never gonna happen.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Taylor Lorenz will never...
unidentified		No, never. No, Ashley Sinclair posted.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I got a shout out for the Krasenstein brothers. We've had them on the show before, but Brian
		responded to Taylor Lorenz's article. For those not familiar with this context, Taylor Lorenz is a
		notoriously bad journalist who has written false and misleading stories. So in response to saying
		far-right Twitter influencers make money, he said, you might be reading the Washington Post
		article by Taylor Lorenz and be thinking, but Brian Krasenstein made $24,000 from Elon.
		He's not far-right.
		All I can say is, I work out.
		And I said, I warned you, Brian.
		Brian, he posted a video of him working out, and I said, you're going to become conservative.
		That's how it goes.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Start going to the gym.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and then Ed Krasenstein, his brother, also criticized this very heavily, saying it was factually incorrect, noting that there were right-wing personalities posting this, but that they had actually made more money than a lot of people.
		This is the media's game.
		What happened is Threads comes out by Instagram.
		It sucks.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		It's horrible.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Elon then launches, as prescribed in February, that there would be rev-sharing, like YouTube does, and other social media platforms do, Instagram and Facebook do.
		And now they're acting like it is a big scheme to bribe people to stay on the platform.
		And they're acting like it's the far right.
		So let me get this straight.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Does YouTube bribe people?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		All of these liberal personalities and leftists stop.
		They refuse to pay for Twitter.
		They stop using Twitter.
		And then when the people who actually use the platform get paid, they go, aha!
		Elon Musk is bribing people.
		It's like, dude, the Krasnistins used the platform, stuck to the platform.
		They're liberals.
		They made money.
		At any rate, this is a very, very big deal.
		In that there is now a viable platform for monetization outside of YouTube.
		Look, I tweet random nonsense.
		I have 1.7 million followers on Twitter.
		I don't know why.
		But thank you for following me on Twitter.
		Now I kind of know why.
		Now I'm like, oh, I should post clips onto Twitter.
		I should post content there.
		We should simulcast the stream or do something like that on Twitter because now there's an opportunity to break the censorship market and shatter the censorship.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Get all those hot takes you've been saving up forever and just start dropping them one by one so you can start making money.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I mean, the thing is, I don't know if they've got, like, special rates for people that produce content that's exclusive for Twitter or what the deal's gonna be, but, you know, a place like this produces plenty of content to put up on the old Twitter machine, you know?
unidentified		I think it's awesome over the last few weeks you've seen with the Young Turks.
		I can't remember her name.
		Anna.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Anna!
unidentified		And now with the Krasnsteins.
		I don't want to call it a red-pilling because I don't think it's quite that, but they're kind of seeing just how crazy the cult is, right?
		Because they got paid from Twitter, they're right-wing now.
		Like, come on, man.
		So I hope the Krasnsteins kind of...
		I think they know.
		I think they realize how kind of extreme the left can be at times, and I think definitely Anna knows from The Young Turks, but it's been awesome to witness, you know, from like a backseat kind of perspective over the last few weeks.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Because she does not want to be a birthing person.
unidentified		Yeah, no bonus holes.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		No bonus holes.
unidentified		That's why everyone's upset.
		Yes!
		I haven't heard that one yet.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		You caught me off guard.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		That one ends up in the chat very often.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Bone is hot.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		That one ends up in the chat very often when you're on live.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I don't blame her.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		You know?
unidentified		But we're just seeing, like, the mob online come after the Krasensteins and the Young Turks, and it's over nothing.
		I mean, seemingly nothing.
		Just had a lot of difference of opinion.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We had, on the Culture War this morning, we had two drag queens.
		One was a more leftist drag queen.
		One was a, not really left or right, just an older drag queen.
		The Kitty Demure and Maybe A Girl were the two drag queens.
		And Kitty, the drag queen's name, I suppose, I believe it's Kitty, I could be wrong, but was saying, look, you know, kids should not be in these things.
		These are for adults.
		These are nightlife.
		These are nightclub things.
		These are party things.
		And the leftist was saying more otherwise.
		That was basically the argument.
		But the interesting thing about it was the cult-like ideology that persists in the left's view.
		And there was a moment on the show, the reason I bring this up, is that I think the drag queen, the leftist, may have stumbled into something inadvertently which could cause problems for them.
		I criticized the book Genderqueer.
		At the end of the show saying conservatives have criticized this book without reading it, and they should read it.
		And many post-liberal thinkers and anti-woke people have criticized the book without reading it, and they should.
		Because they highlight this book, Genderqueer, as having graphic images that shouldn't be shown to kids.
		That's correct, but the book is about this individual, this author's deep abuse and trauma Growing up from abusive parents, being forced to reuse menstrual products for days on end to the point where they smelled horribly, were pulled out of class, not being able to read till 12, having to go about their, you know, relief business outside, and maybe said, thank you for that, in response.
		I don't think that thank you will fly with the cult on the left.
		And that, I think, whether I'm right or wrong, my point is just my perception of it, There is a clear, fall-in-line, say-whatever-you're-supposed-to-say, no matter what it is, no matter how silly it is, or else.
		Whereas, whatever this faction is, it's conservative, liberal, libertarian, people disagreeing on a ton of issues, but, like, kinda just being chill with each other.
unidentified		Yeah, I get called bigot by other libertarians, just because of my stance on that particular issue.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Just because you're a libertarian.
unidentified		Just because I'm a libertarian.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but what is up with that?
		I mean, let's talk about that, because, um...
		You know, George Organson in, I think it was 2020, right, tweeted that cult worship line, it is not enough to not be racist, we must be actively anti-racist, which is basically a cult mantra.
		It's like effectively a neo-Marxist prayer.
		To see a libertarian tweet, we must do something, was kind of hilarious to me, like, we all must do these things.
		I thought we were all about individual liberty and responsibility.
		I'm curious your thoughts on that element of the Libertarian Party and those ideas.
unidentified		Yeah, I'm all about the individual and not necessarily the party itself.
		I was a Libertarian well before I even knew what the party was.
		when I was kind of looking for my identity, you know, back when McCain and Sarah Palin were running
		and I just didn't like any of my options.
		So, I mean, I adopted ideology just because it makes sense to me.
		You know, you don't hurt other people, you don't take people's stuff
		and you just kind of mind your own business and live your life.
		But now you have the government coming in and ultimately trying to make decisions for you both on the left and the right.
		One tries to police your existence and the other one does now the same thing and tries to take your money along with it.
		And they're redefining society now in a culture war that doesn't even seem to make sense to me.
		And they're drawing lines in the sand that You know, I've talked to people in the L, the G, the B, and the T communities, and they're all in agreement, right?
		And then you have the QIAs, and I don't even know what the I and the A stand for.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Intersex, right?
		Queer, intersex, and asexual.
		But there's more than that.
		There's two, two, S-I, you know.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Two spirits, right?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Yes.
		And then, like, there's a bunch of other letters that go into it.
unidentified		But, I mean, I feel like with the T, right, I feel like a lot of that is, like, with the body dysphoria and in the mental aspects, where the Q is more just how I feel today.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, so here's the interesting thing.
		I mean, the T does encompass what the drag queen earlier was saying is trans non-binary in which people will be gender fluid.
		That's how they describe it.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Boy, you about to find out!
unidentified		Oh yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But here's what I see with the progress pride flag.
		It is, at one point, it was a rainbow flag to symbolize, you know, the LGBT community.
		Then they added these stripes to it, then they added a triangle to it, then they added a circle to it.
		They're basically It's like the Horde in World of Warcraft.
		You guys know what that reference is?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It was these various bands of fractured cultures that came together, and so the idea behind that flag is aggrieved groups forming under one banner.
		They don't necessarily make sense.
		It does not make sense to have a gay pride flag that includes black people.
		Well, because not all black people are gay.
		I mean, the insinuation that this is a pride flag for gay LGBT pride...
		And all black and brown people are a component of that.
		It's not the same thing.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I feel like people started calling it the Progress Flag.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Do you feel like that's... I believe it's called the Progress Pride Flag.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Maybe this is all just a really good plot from a flag maker who just wants to sell you a new flag every couple of years because they have to keep adding things to it constantly.
unidentified		It's just all about oppression.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's called the Progress Pride Flag.
		And so it's got, uh, it's now got black, brown, sky blue, pink, white, a yellow triangle, and a purple circle.
		It's basically just putting symbols of aggrieved groups into one flag.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		What's the purple circle?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Uh, I believe that's, it could be asexual?
unidentified		Is there a white diamond?
		There's a white stripe.
		There is a white stripe.
		But we know what group is not included.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So the progress pride flag does have a white triangle on it.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		But we know what group is not included in that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, no, no.
		So the Progress Pride flag does have a white triangle on it.
		And that's because the, what is this?
		So the Progress Pride flag I have right here, the largest component of it is a white triangle.
		And that's because they all agree that they think white people are the most powerful.
		And you know, of course, they want to make sure they're represented perfectly on their
		I'm kidding, by the way.
		It is true.
		There's a giant white triangle on the flag.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Maybe that's for the white women.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There's no explanation for what the white triangle is.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It's for the Karen.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, maybe.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		That's where the power of Karen is stored.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let me look this up, but what are the colors?
		What do they mean?
		Okay, so let's see.
		The progress pride flag.
		And I pulled this thing up, I pulled it up on my phone for whatever reason.
		It said, what do the rainbow stripes mean?
		Red is life, orange is healing, yellow is sunlight, green is nature, blue is harmony, purple is spirit.
		Okay.
		What do the triangles mean?
		The light blue, light pink, and white section represent transgender.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The black and brown stripes represent marginalized communities of color.
		The black stripe represents those who have been lost to AIDS.
		Holy, wait, what, really?
		That is, I feel like that's deeply racist.
		To say that the black stripe for black people is the AIDS stripe is horrifyingly racist.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I think the brown stripe is for people of color, and the black stripe is for... No, no, no, look, I'm, look, I don't know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is KansasCity.com, this is a, it looks like, uh, um, it's so annoying.
		Oh, these websites are terrible.
		This is Kansas City Star, and it says that the black stripe represents AIDS and black people.
		I'm not exaggerating.
		Let me pull this up.
		This is shocking to me.
unidentified		We can't give age another color?
		I feel like depending on where you go, they're going to have a different definition for this flag.
		And it's part of what Tim was saying, how it's like World of Warcraft, how it's all these random groups under one banner.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Look, look, look, look.
unidentified		It's perfectly stupid.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The Kansas City Star, NewsGuard certified 92.5 out of 100.
		June 20th, 2022.
		What does it mean?
		I will scroll.
		This is exactly what I was reading.
		I can't believe they actually wrote this.
		It says the black and brown stripes represent people of color.
		And then it says the black stripe also represents people who've lost to AIDS.
		They're quite literally saying that the black stripe represents black people and AIDS victims in the same category.
		That is deeply racist.
unidentified		What about the COVID stripe?
		There's no COVID stripe?
		Like, what about the other diseases that affect so many people?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yes, but obviously, when it comes to pride, there isn't a question over AIDS and the epidemic and what happened in the 80s and Reagan and all that stuff.
		I can understand them wanting to include it, But I didn't know that they were making one stripe for black people and AIDS victims.
		I feel like that sounds deeply, deeply offensive.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, the thing is, they don't think about this kind of stuff.
		I really don't think they put a whole lot of thought into it.
		I think that it's like throwing stuff against the wall, like throwing spaghetti against the wall to see what sticks.
unidentified		Well, why did they even have to do a race?
unidentified		The black and brown to begin with.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Are you serious?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Because they're marginalized.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Have you turned on the television the past 10 years?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Have you looked at a newspaper?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Do you think the average person who flies the flag would be able to tell you, like if you gave them a quiz, you gave them like a thing and like it's got a little box there you have to mention, like, can you point out what this one means, what this one means, what this one means?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Do you think the average person would be able to tell you what any of those stripes mean?
unidentified		Yeah, because we're teaching it in our school systems now.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		It's like a little fill-in graph.
		It's like a coloring sheet.
		You have to fill it in and know what it means.
unidentified		No, it's like that TikTok of the little boy who's with his mother, and he recites LGBTQIA, like, lightning fast.
		It's second nature to him now.
		Like, just like we recite the alphabet.
		He's able to do the acronym.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		We even have to do it on the show, like, LGBTQIA++, yeah.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's like you get done you're like your brain just kind of goes numb and your eyes go wide and you're just like because you had to say it so many times.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Wow, this is stonewallsociety.com says that the victory over AIDS flag is the black stripe.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		So it's like quite literally they It's crazy because when I was growing up, like in the 90s, they were very adamant that AIDS was not a LGBT disease.
		AIDS was something that everybody had to worry about.
		AIDS was something that, you know, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
		And then now it's like, oh, well, this is a personal part of our story and our history.
		And it's like, Were you joshing before?
		Like, why is it that like back, you know, again, I mean, I think that, I think it's, it's...
		I think it's fairly common knowledge that AIDS as a disease is mostly found in the gay community.
		It's rarely found outside.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't think mostly is the correct word.
		I think that in the United States it largely impacts the gay community, but I don't think it's true to say that it is mostly.
		Mostly is very different from largely affecting.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		Yeah.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		All right.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Well fair enough then because I don't know particularly but it does, you know speak to It's it's certainly saying something when they're like, hey, this is something that impacts our community Uniquely, which is what they're saying As far as I gotta be honest, I am I am I am shocked to discover that They actually did that But I'm not surprised to hear that they're racist.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I firmly believe the Democrats are deeply racist, have always been racist, have never stopped being racist.
		And they always play this game of, oh, but the party's switched.
		And I'm like, dude, I don't care about political parties.
		I don't know nothing about that.
		All I know is y'all are racist.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I mean, the political party that is largely focused on race and continues to make race a topic is probably the one you can safely say is racist.
		The one that says, hey, we don't want to focus on this stuff, etc.
		is probably not particularly racist.
		That just seems to be fairly, you know, obvious to me.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		It's because you're trying to keep your power in office there by not talking about it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Man, that's crazy.
unidentified		Yeah, you Republican.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Oh, God.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right, here we go.
		You guys ready for this one?
		From the National Review, Secret Service found marijuana twice at the White House in 2022.
		Okay.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I mean, does that bother?
unidentified		It's legal there, right?
unidentified		Well, not inside a federal building.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, but like, at what point do we say, come on?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It depends on if it was, like, edibles or if it was a thing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We know.
		I think we get it.
		Alright, someone just needs to... Joe, can you ask your son, just maybe... If he's gonna smoke pot, if it's gonna be him, can he just clean it up and not get caught doing it?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I really don't think that Hunter Biden is smoking much weed, personally.
		I really think that it's amphetamines.
		I think that it's cocaine.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Maybe, but I mean, if he was getting off of that stuff, I wouldn't be surprised if he was like, well, this one's not so bad.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		It's also funnier than, maybe Joe's just not senile and old, maybe he's just super stoned all the time.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		That would be, that's actually a way funnier story.
unidentified		No, because if that was the case, then he would have actually de-scheduled it, like he said he was going to do, instead of just waving it off and it never happened.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		First thing he does in office is make it legal so that he can have it right there in the office.
unidentified		Right, I mean, the executive order is the way I would have rolled as president.
		Hunter, you're free, baby.
		I think they're trying to plant it on Biden and he just keeps leaving random places.
		Right?
		So they're like, we gotta get him out, there's no chance in 24, so they keep getting all these different drugs, hoping that Secret Service will find it on him, but Biden's just not with it, so he just keeps leaving it places like outside the Situation Room.
		They're like, we really don't know who it belongs to, because it's Joe's.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Hunter gets it for him.
unidentified		You do a coffee thing here, right?
unidentified		Maybe you get Joe your coffee, and he'll wake up.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I just gotta say, you know, our coffee is the best coffee.
		Trust me, Appalachian Nights, the best coffee.
		Everyone agrees.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		If Joe had that coffee right now, the country would be in a way better place.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Way better.
unidentified		Afghanistan would have been flawless.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Maybe that's the commercial we do.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We have like you see Joe Biden but only from from behind and he's like stumbling and we show all the clips of him stumbling and falling and then it's like people in suits being like quick quick and they pull the bag of cast brew coffee and then you just see Biden stumble in and there's like a camera shaking and he grabs the coffee sips it and then all of a sudden stands up right and he's like I'm ready man.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Fixes him.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Fixes him right up.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Perfect.
unidentified		Yeah.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I think you should.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Or we can do one where Ian travels back in time and keeps pouring a glass of Casper coffee for Joe right before these major moments and then everything just goes right.
		It's like preparing for the Afghan withdrawal and then Ian's just like pouring the cup of coffee and he slides it out there.
		Saving the world, one cup of Casper at a time.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Right before the debates.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, in all seriousness though, I don't really care for pot.
		I'm not a fan of it.
		I think it's very bad for people.
		I think a lot of people are like, ah, it's no big deal.
		It should be legal and all this stuff.
		And I'm like, well, okay, I'm fairly libertarian on stuff.
		I don't care what you do with your life.
		But I think weed is pretty bad for you.
		I think to all the people I knew growing up, and you know, the ones that were smoking pot all the time did not do nearly as well as the ones who did not.
		And so, you know, whatever.
		I think that's why you say, actually South Park said it the best.
		Randy Marsh said, son, It's not that it's gonna kill you or do any things to you, it's that it makes you okay with being bored.
		And then when you're older, you'll find you're not good at anything.
		So, that's a reason why you shouldn't do it.
		It's like, oh, okay, thanks, Dad.
		But, uh, that being said, it is not legally allowed in the White House, and there is a drug problem in the White House right now.
		I-I-I have questions.
		You know, we talk about a two- or three-tiered justice system.
		Come on, man.
		Come on.
unidentified		Oh, there's at least three tiers.
		There's the broke and the not broke.
		And then you can talk about whether Trump's on a different level than Biden or whatever, but yeah, I'm not included in any of that.
		And I'm supposed to have white privilege, right?
		So they'll throw my ass in jail quick.
		I think it's a major problem.
		It's one thing to do drugs and know about it in the White House.
		It's another thing to constantly leave them everywhere.
		They're not very good at doing it.
		I mean, Nixon didn't leave his shit all over the place.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		At least clean up after yourself.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There's no cameras in the White House, apparently, either.
unidentified		The Secret Service said, oh, we couldn't figure out whose cocaine that was.
unidentified		I was surprised to hear that, considering all the cameras I see in every federal building I've ever worked in.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I wasn't surprised to hear it.
		It's the Bidens.
		The Secret Service was like, Ben Shapiro pointed this out, that the Secret Service reportedly went to the gun shop where Hunter bought his gun, and that was illegally disposed of, and tried to collect records, seemingly to protect the Bidens from criminal prosecution.
unidentified		Now, I gotta tell you, as a libertarian, that's the most base thing I ever heard, right?
		Hunter being charged with marijuana and a gun charge.
		Second Amendment, that's dope, right?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, I gotta say, I don't think Hunter Biden should be charged for owning a weapon.
		There's a fair argument.
		Through due process, you can have your rights curtailed.
		That's what prison literally is.
		And if you are found to be a drug user and we've determined that to be like, hey, you know, through due process, we've determined you do not have this right.
		I think there's questions about whether that should be laws or not, that because someone smoked pot one time, they can't have a gun anymore.
		I don't think that's fair, because Hunter had done hard drugs, he's ineligible, because someone was convicted of a felony, they get out, now they can't get a gun.
		Some people have argued, well that's due process, and I'm like, it's gotta be shorter than that.
		Your right to vote, your right to keep and bear arms, we shouldn't sentence you to life for it.
		That being said, Hunter shouldn't be charged, in my opinion, for just buying a gun.
unidentified		Oh, for no reason.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But disposing of it in a trash can outside of a school... Yeah, okay, you know, maybe we got something there.
unidentified		Well, he's obviously guilty of something if that's what you're doing.
		It was his wife, I think.
		His wife did it.
		Oh, okay.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Did she do it or did she go and get it?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, no, it was a trash collector who found it.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm pretty sure it was a hunter's wife.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Was it my wife?
unidentified		I don't know.
		Was he ever married?
		I know he was sleeping with his brother's wife.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Oh God.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		We need to start talking.
unidentified		That's such a weird story.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It's just so gross.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, okay, okay.
		It's lover, they say.
		Lover.
		It was his brother's ex he started hooking up with.
unidentified		Haley or whatever her name is.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's right.
		It's kind of weird, though, because they have the same last name now because she married his brother.
		It's kind of a weird thing.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		All the greatest stuff when Hollywood ends up making movies about that family will be about Hunter and have nothing to do with Joe at all.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		All the great entertainment will come out of Hunter.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Joe's done nothing.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		No.
unidentified		He was perfect dad apparently.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Can we do like a Game of Thrones show with the Bidens?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Yes!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It'd be compelling you know like you got an episode where Hunter is just like coked out of his mind and then it shows him like get up and then he like straightens his jacket and the bag falls on the ground and then like some tourist walks by and sees it and goes...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, the Secret Service is like, uh-oh.
unidentified		They probably run like The Sopranos on HBO.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		No, or they make it like House of Cards with Joe Biden, but it just all keeps happening by accident.
		Nothing actually works out.
		People are picking up behind him.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It all keeps happening on accident and accidentally working out.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		It's like accidental House of Cards with Joe Biden.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Joe Biden trips up the stairs and then drops some item which bounces and then a marble bounces and then hits a button causing a conveyor belt.
unidentified		Saves the world.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All, yeah, right, like all these really weird things happen.
		He's like, he's sitting in the Situation Room, and they're like, quick, we need a response from you now, Mr. President.
		He falls asleep, and then his face hits the keyboard, and it sends the perfect message, or just, you know, it says yes, and they're like, yes, and then he averts the crisis, things like that.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		And they can get Kevin Spacey to play him, because he's a great guy, too.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Ew.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no, he'd be perfect for Biden, with all the sniffing, you know what I mean?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I think he's done more than sniffing.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Kevin Spacey's on trial right now in the UK for very, very bad things.
		He pulled his own version of the, uh, I'm not a pervert, I'm Italian.
		He had one where he's like, oh, I'm a flirt with like, he had accused of horrible stuff.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Innocent until proven guilty.
		But, uh, I'm not giving the guy the benefit of the doubt.
		We'll see.
		We'll see, you know, how it goes.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I'm a flirt.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Also a rapist.
unidentified		Yes.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		He's like, he's like, well, like after all the initial claims came, I was like, look, I'm gay.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		And we're like, what the hell does that have to do with any of this?
unidentified		Well, now it's probably a good defense.
		Had he come out with it now, like this month, people would have said, oh, okay, you're good.
		Right?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		It should have worked even then.
unidentified		He'll be like, I'm Q. Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think maybe he'll work in these arguments where he's like, he can show pride events and the behaviors that people do that are considered normal and say, these things that I was doing were perfectly in line with what they all do all day every day at these events.
		Nobody cares about it.
		Why am I all of a sudden being targeted for it?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		We do live in hell.
unidentified		Yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That might be an argument.
		He goes, I don't know.
		But I did hear that he was like crying or something.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Not sure that I care all that much.
unidentified		Yeah, I mean, I don't want to throw the guy, uh, you know, a safety net or anything, but I mean, I remember a time when, when I was snowboarding in Colorado and if you, if you pulled over on the side of the road to go to the bathroom and you got caught, you got a sex charge where you could get like a, uh, get on a sex registry.
		And now, I mean, if you're a Q, you can just go piss all over the whole country and you can get away with it.
		It's just, it's just not, I, I don't see where all of a sudden everything is okay.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		So I find it confusing.
		It's because all the stuff like, it's like when we're talking about the pride flag, everything is about being oppressed.
		All these groups, the one thing they have in common is they feel they're oppressed.
		And that's why it's like, it's these degenerate acts that we think of them as degenerate, but then it's like, we're not allowed to do them.
		We don't have their right.
		So we need to stand up for those people that don't have the rights to do all this gross behavior.
		And that's what we're seeing.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It's completely backwards clown world, you know, but it definitely is but that I mean what you point out about how there's so many people that have it have a perspective where they're basing everything on a That they're the victim of something that's something that that's from the Marxist playbook the whole point is power dynamics the whole point is the person with power is oppressing the person without power and it all you have to be able to do is make a compelling argument that you feel oppressed and everybody is expected to consent to your
		Your lived experience, your worldview.
		And you can't have a society that works like that because then the incentive is to be oppressed and to tell everybody about it and we see the results in society.
		People are afraid to speak their mind.
		People are afraid to say things that they believe.
		People are afraid and they're not afraid because they have outlandish ideas.
		They're afraid because the people with the outlandish ideas are also the ones that will make us stink and make You know, get people fired, or bring you to the HR department, or whatever.
		People that are unhappy with their lives, and it's all because of that, you know, the teaching people to look at the world through the dynamic of oppressor and oppressed, and teaching them that the position of oppressed is actually a position of power.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So, uh, did you want to add a point to that?
unidentified		I was just going to say Obama's campaign was, yes, we can.
unidentified		And it's like, no, we can't because of this group or because of this thing, you know?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		That's a fantastic plan for the next presidential campaign.
		No, we can't.
		No, we can't!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So I wanted to go back to when someone superchatted us about AIDS in various populations, because we were talking about the flag, so I looked it up, and 7.7% of global HIV is gay men.
unidentified		7.7.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's lower than I thought.
		Substantially.
		That was my point.
		I mean, I think in the US maybe the numbers are different, but interestingly, and this is from the UN website, 10.3% among transgender persons.
		So it's higher, interestingly.
		I could be reading this wrong.
		I think that's right.
		Higher prevalence in these groups to this percentage.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I mean, once you start to think about why trans people might be transmitting diseases like that, I mean, it's like wounds and stuff.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		People who are injecting things have a higher prevalence for it.
		Drug use.
		I wouldn't judge.
		Hormone injections.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		No.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Heroin.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Hormone.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I thought you said heroin.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Reusing needles and things like that may result in it.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		In the 80s that was a big part of it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, but I just looked it up.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And so perhaps in the US the numbers are different, but that's why I say I don't think mostly is the correct term because it's actually... You know, what we actually see with HIV is in many other countries, people of varying demographics and backgrounds, especially a lot of rape victims too.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Learn something new every day.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Way to just bring up a sad subject, I suppose.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Cheery!
unidentified		Well, you know, people die.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's wrap up this weekend with something silly.
		Politico.
		House GOP plans to hold long-teased UFO hearing.
		That's what it is about.
		Aliens, I think people deserve to know.
		Rep Tim Burchett, who was leading the effort, told Politico.
		Great.
		Chuck Schumer is apparently on board or something.
		You know what I think every time I see these stories?
		What did Biden do this time?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
unidentified		Heroin was found this time in the White House.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		They need to make sure that the aliens are the... Because this happened last time I was on.
		It was something about aliens.
		It was like, what the hell are they covering up?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They're going to find so much drugs that within three weeks, they're literally staging an alien invasion.
		And it's a video of Biden shaking hands with a gray alien.
		And they're like, is it working?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		You good there?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, sorry about that.
		Oh, I thought you were going to say... Yeah, I was going to, and then the cough made it slip my mind.
		You were talking about... Aliens!
		Yeah, okay, so I was listening to a space today, Musk was on, talking about AI, the new AI company.
		And he was talking about the fact that he's like, look, man, I haven't seen anything.
		So all these people like that are government officials that are like, oh, looking at the stuff that the government said they got, man, all these people better know.
		But the dude that most regularly looks at actual video of space.
		Probably, in the top ten people that look at video spaces, I have seen absolutely no evidence.
		Like, dead, none, zero, he says.
		So, I don't know what the congress people think they saw, or whatever, but I do find the guy that Actually watches video of space all the time.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I find his opinion compelling as opposed to Friggin Chuck Schumer I'd rather find out what the lady on the plane was actually looking at and the thing that wasn't real I want to know what she was actually looking at that's more interesting to me I want to know what the government thinks about aliens.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Have they found her yet?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		They have not.
		Everyone's talking about it and some people were shaming us into caring.
		They're like, why do you care about this?
		I'm like, because it's the internet.
		Because I'm allowed to care.
unidentified		Well, my point here, I was like, what should I share with everyone on the plane?
unidentified		But no, my plane was the most boring thing ever.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		She had pretty privilege too.
unidentified		And she was white, so.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		So they haven't found her.
		We don't know.
		Maybe those are the aliens they're talking about that the government's talking about.
		They took her back.
		That's possible.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It's so funny.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		She's like, he is not real.
unidentified		Oh yeah.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		That's what I'm talking about.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		They still haven't found that lady.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		She disappeared.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		How has no one figured out who the person was?
unidentified		There was progress made today.
		So a friend of a friend of a friend is like she's alive and well, she went on a cruise.
		That's why she was on the plane in the first place.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Drunk.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Don't ambient and fly.
unidentified		We're making progress.
unidentified		We're going to figure who this is in a day or two.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Do we know what happened?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		She was talking to some dude and...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All I said was, like, that dude's not real.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		It was ambient.
		She had to have taken ambient and flown.
		Like, not a good idea.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		More than likely.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But what does that mean, not real?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like, is that it?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Well, she was saying, like, he made some kind of remark, because I believe that I heard a TikTok that someone was saying, I'm the guy.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		So I don't know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think that was fake.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I didn't, yeah, I didn't check it, but he was saying that, like, they were talking, and he was, I forget where he said he was going, but somehow the conversation went to, like, conspiracy theory type stuff, and because she seemed like she was loaded, she just started thinking that he was, like, a lizard person or something.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		So I don't know the details, I'm only relating what I've heard.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		The best was the one where it says, it's the, it's the graphic of her pointing and says that NFR over there's not real, and then it points over there and it's a picture of Mark Zuckerberg.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Looking rather reptilian himself in the photo.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm so sick of these UFO stories, to be completely honest.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's because nobody buys them anymore.
		At this point, if aliens came down, nobody would care.
		They'd be like, ugh.
unidentified		Yeah, right.
		I'd like to get on board after this.
		I can't do another Biden administration.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		And not to mention, with the technology we're seeing now with AI, nothing you watch on the internet feels real anymore anyways.
		Unless you actually saw it for yourself in person, would you actually believe that what you were looking at was real?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Have you guys seen the new Beavis and Butthead?
unidentified		No.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to spoil it.
		Spoilers, because it's relevant.
		You've been warned.
		So the, I think it's the last episode of the new season that came out.
		It's a recurring theme in the new one is smart beavis and smart butthead.
		And they're from a parallel reality where they're super, everyone's super intelligent.
		And so they are super intelligent, but still stupid.
		And so they're instructed to go to Earth Prime or whatever and kidnap someone for experimentation.
		They land in this UFO kind of thing, and then they convince that neighbor, whatever his name is, and he's just completely like, oh wow, look at that, and he walks into the UFO, just completely oblivious.
		I kind of feel like, that's what I imagine when you're like at this point of an alien ship landing, people are like, oh yeah, really?
unidentified		Sure.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, nobody was fighting.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		They would be YouTubers.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It's like Jake Paul was ten years ago, knocking each other out to try and get inside, to get the first clips of inside the alien spaceship.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's actually kind of crazy to think about.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If a spaceship landed in our parking lot right now, and aliens walked out and we filmed it, nobody would believe it.
unidentified		No, they wouldn't.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We would literally post the video, we would start, I would live stream, and I would be like, guys, this is, like, I'm streaming, and they'd be like, yeah, okay, nice try, dude, special effects, green screen, it's a fake live stream, it was pre-loaded, pre-recorded, pre-rendered, nobody would believe it.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		No, they wouldn't.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Blame the Blair Witch Project when that came out.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I saw posts about that today.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		That was like 20, 40 years ago today now.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		We're right out in that area, right?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So the aliens specifically ceded CGI technology to us so that we would have no way to warn anybody about what was happening.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		So no one, yeah, it's like the ultimate boy that cried.
		Yeah.
		That's right.
		Give them the means to fake everything.
		They'll fake everything.
		And then when we invade, no one's going to buy it.
		Brilliant plan!
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		The best film director will get them to work with him on set so that he doesn't actually have to use the CGI budget to make the movie.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I'm down for that too.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Probably too.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Are there any of the alien stories that you find more compelling than others?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, it's all lies and stupid nonsense, and I'm insulted that they even bring it up.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		But it's also, it is one of those things now, because you live in a 24-hour news cycle that never ends, and if you are acutely aware of what's going on in the media, you look at all of it as some type of distraction, like, what is this taking me away from?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Why are you pointing over here when I should be looking over there?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's do this, let's say, has anybody ever, how come no one talks about the hole in the center of the North Pole?
		I mean, look, why is the UFO and aliens the choice of conspiracy?
		How about we talk about, you know, I don't know, dinosaurs, super evolved, smart cave dinosaurs?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Because television in the X-Files made it more palatable in the 90s and it captured the public interest then, so it's the most easy to digest.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but every once in a while you'll get Atlantis talk and some We Was Kang stuff, like, you know.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		But it doesn't catch on in the same way.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		No, it doesn't have the same impact, because I think that space is probably something that everybody is kind of, has, feels like they kind of have a connection with, because everyone, or at least people that don't live in cities, look up and they see stars and stuff like that, and most people can see the moon, so it's like, I feel like it's compelling to people, whereas like, Atlantis is like, you gotta be really in the, down deep.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Plus, we just had that whole ocean gate thing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Nobody wants to go down to the bottom of the ocean anymore.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Not for a while.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's what happens down there?
unidentified		There ain't no people down there!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Somebody downstairs was watching some Flat Earth video, and I just groan listening to Flat Earth people.
		Because it's like this guy going, like, I don't have any definitive statements.
		I just have theories.
		Round Earth is a theory.
		And Flat Earth is a theory.
		And it's like, you can't prove it.
		And I'm just like, oh.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		They actually, let me tell you, they really have come far on the whole proving it part.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But my favorite is when they go, how come no one's allowed to go to Antarctica?
unidentified		And I'm like, I know people who've gone there, you can buy tickets.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's where this...
		And they go, how come you can't fly over the North Pole?
		I'm like, dude, I literally did when I flew from New York to Hong Kong.
		I don't understand.
		They just make this stuff up.
		It's infuriating.
		And then they all just keep repeating it.
		I love this video where this guy does this thing where he's like, I'm going to prove that the earth is flat or whatever.
		And he's like, if the earth is round, then if you take two boards and cut holes in them and then shine a light through it, the camera should be able to pick up the light.
		If it's round, you won't be able to because of the curvature of the Earth.
		You have to raise the camera up.
		And if it's flat, it should be perfectly even.
		And sure enough, he's like, wait a minute.
		Wait, wait, hold on there a minute.
		Like, what's happening?
		I can't see the light.
		And he's like, raise it up.
		And he does.
		And he sees the light and he's like, oh.
		Accidentally confirming the experiments about proving the Earth is round.
		But the crazy thing to me is that people say insane things like, you can't go to Antarctica.
		Because they're like, it's the firmament.
		It's the boundary that surrounds the disk Earth or whatever.
		And I'm like, Dude, you can literally go to Antarctica.
		It's expensive, there's nothing there, and so the average thing people do is they ride a- you hitch a- you get a ticket on a cargo ship.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		They know that Metallica played there, right?
		That actually happened.
		Metallica's the only band that has played on all seven continents.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They think it's a conspiracy.
		They think it's a conspir- You can buy a ticket as a regular tourist, and you get a few hours on Antarctica, because what else are you going to do?
		Are you going to go die?
		But there are people with more money and means that prepare expeditions and literally just go and explore Antarctica.
		People will say a thing, and then everyone just says, it's true, I believe it, and they just go along with it.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I've heard that the reason that they don't have flights that go over the South Pole is because that part of the Earth is very remote.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Like, if you go over the North Pole, like, you're over Canada, you're, you know, there's all kinds of cities all in the vicinity, but, like, the South Pole, it's really remote, so they're just like, you know, have them go.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There's no reason to, look.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The reason you'd fly over the North Pole is because going from New York to Hong Kong, it is faster to go straight.
unidentified		Mm-hmm.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Point to point.
		The idea would be that you'd fly all the way over Russia, or all the way over the Pacific to try and get to Hong Kong.
		Makes no sense, you just go, whoop, right over.
		Because it's a sphere.
		That makes sense.
		The South Pole makes no sense, because what are you gonna do, fly from Chile and then loop around and go to like Australia?
		That makes no sense.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		The distances are far down there.
		Most of the population lives in the global north.
		You know, Asia and North America.
		Like there's Africa and South America, but like most of the population on Earth is above the equator.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We're gonna go to Super Chat, so if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share this show with your friends, and become a member at TimCast.com to support our work directly.
		And, uh, we will read these.
		We do members-only shows Monday through Thursday, nothing today.
		And, uh, just a quick reminder, we will have a guest host all next week, Seamus of Freedom Tunes.
		I'm grateful that he is able to do it, because...
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Gotta go to the doctor.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But here's Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
		in the Super Chat saying, Tim, sir, my guy, yesterday, holy moly, what a feel-good moment that was watching the Super Chats roll in.
		Everyone deserves a shout-out.
		The viewers, the staff, the cast, yourself, forward the line.
		So basically what happens is, at the end of the show, I'm like, if you, someone said, give the Super Chats to Tim Ballard, I said, okay.
		And then we start seeing, you know, $10, $20 come in, and I'm like, you know what?
		That makes no sense.
		Like, I'll just double it.
		And then, within a few minutes, the couple grand I thought I was gonna be writing a check for turned into $24,000, and I was like, well, here we go.
		Wow, I didn't expect that, but it was really, really incredible to see everybody pitch in.
		And if you guys can, I can.
		I really do appreciate your support.
		And I think it's cool that together we did this for Tim Ballard's new organization, which he just launched.
		So hopefully this $50,000 check will be a huge kick in the butt for the start of his organization to get it going quickly.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I also saw something earlier that somebody said that the organization website he was listing was, like he was saying, the Spear, like he was saying it wrong.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The Spear Fund.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Somebody bought it and then said, how can we give this to him to make sure that the one that he was mentioning on the show was the one that actually redirected to the actual website.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		So that's an even better, it's another great example of everybody coming together.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Fantastic.
		Spearfund.org redirects to his site.
		It's coming soon.
		He just announced it, but I hope that together We each were able to put up 25k you the audience and and me.
		And I got to be honest, the money for me is basically still money from you guys as viewers and as members.
		So I'm grateful to be able to help him get that going.
		Because man, yesterday was something else.
		What an amazing conversation.
unidentified		Let's grab some more super chats.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What do we have here?
		Rafty says, agreed Raymond Stanley Jr.
		YouTube is blocking the gentle agreement I want to share with everyone, like a reminder of the link to the site for free tickets.
		Oh, you can't link it.
		It's, uh, what was the, it's angel dot, what is it, angel dot com?
		What's the pay-it-forward link?
unidentified		I'm not sure.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Angel Studios.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Angel.com slash pay-it-forward.
		But I think you just go to angel.com.
		You should be able to find it.
		It's probably easier to find it that way.
		So not only did we do 50k, I bought 750 theater tickets at $11,500 so that more people can go see this film.
		I want to win this culture war, man.
		I want to build a parallel economy.
		I want to see these studios succeed.
		I want to see new movies come out and I want to help save kids.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Talk about win, win, win, win.
		It's a fantastic example.
		Like if you're looking for a white pill for how things are coming, I went to see the movie, theater was packed.
		Everybody that we've talked to on our podcast, everyone that's super chatted, talking about the movie has said that when they've gone to the theater, the theater was packed for them as well.
		So that is a fantastic sign.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Someone was saying that Jewel was talking about the movie.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		She was, yeah.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Awesome.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		She knows the people.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		She knew the producers and she knew people involved with the production of the movie.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		She's on Concord, which is my previous label, the label that I was on before.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, right on.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You should hit her up, have her come out.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		That'd be really cool.
		That's why I found out that she's on Concord.
		I hit her up and was like, yo, who's our management?
		I'm going to see if I can reach out.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That'd be really cool.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I'll try.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		She has a bunch of those big 90s hits, right?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like Who Will Save Your Soul.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Great song.
		And she's been working consistently.
		So as much as what happens in the music industry, a lot of times people come out and they'll have whatever puts them on the map that gives them heat.
		And then people get used to them.
		They build their fan base.
		And the people that are just into the one song will go back to doing their thing or finding other stuff.
		But she really built a fan base that's really kept her Her relevant for a long time.
		She's been working for ages.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That'd be cool to talk to her about it.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Um, the lights.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Too bright?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Too bright in here.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Both the glasses and the beer came off.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		It's the end of the day, and I'm just, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Eric Miller says, Tim, next week, why don't you call in through Discord so you can still be part of the conversation?
		Perhaps what I can do is just hang out in the Discord, but the reality is I'm going to be literally in a hospital all week.
		So, here's the gist of it.
		I have probably a labrum hip tear, cartilage damage, which reduces mobility and range of motion and causes pain when I'm extending my leg.
		And so, if I were to pursue your typical course of treatment, what I was told by the local hospitals was, we can consult you in two weeks.
		Okay, well, I can't skate.
		So, like, what do I do?
		I can't exercise.
		Like, that's no good.
		We're currently working on building the facility, which includes skating and exercise, and I want to be able to do it.
		After the consultation, we'll perhaps schedule in a few days, over the weekend of course, so it could be four or five days, an MRI.
		Okay.
		And then from there we'll plan out in the next couple of months a procedure for which we can start to repair.
		I'm like, okay, you know what man?
		So there is a facility that is out of state.
		It's one of the highest rated like sports injury clinics and they're like, we do it all in a week.
		You come in.
		all the diagnostic work, then we prepare, then Wednesday we plan the treatment,
		and then you should be done with everything by Friday.
		The reality with the labrum tear treatments, they do PRP in stem cells, that's platelet-rich plasma,
		but they can also do surgical repairs.
		These only take like an hour, but you have to go through like paperwork, MRI, diagnosis.
		So I'm like, this one place will do it all right away.
		Done.
		Done.
		But it means I'm basically in the hospital going through the whole process.
		That's it.
		So there's no morning show.
		I can't do IRL.
		But it beats randomly taking off one or two nights every week to go through this and then not being able to skate or exercise for six, seven months because of the recovery process.
		Because they're saying recovery for it could be like a A month to two months.
		And I will also add, it's so annoying because I can run up and down the stairs, I can jump, I can basically do literally everything except kickflip.
		I can't do anything that requires a ninja kick of my left leg.
		It's just like, there's no strength.
		And so, what I'm generally told by the doctors is, If you don't take care of it now, and you keep going, hip
		replacement later.
unidentified		I guess I got my shoulder replaced. It sucked.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right. So they're like, we can do something that's minimally invasive.
		It's going to take a week of your time. It's done in an hour. Takes you a month.
		And then you're good. Or you can ignore it, be in pain, not exercise.
		And then in a few years or so, have to deal with a real serious invasive surgery.
		So it's just like, let's just do it.
		Let's just get it over with.
		I'm an old man, so it has to be done.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		And with less exercise in the meantime, it actually makes the problem worse the longer it goes.
		Exactly.
		I'm still having like reoccurring knee issues that's one of those things like when I was skating every single day I was I just built up enough strength that I was able to get through it without having Too many problems, but since then like even now if I'm skating just three four times a week I notice it way more You know it's not like I'm working manual labor so it's like if I go out and try and skate at 8 p.m.
		or 9 p.m.
		when I'm done with work I feel as if I've been you know it feels as if I've been on my feet the whole day when that's not necessarily the case because I'm not building up the strength from skating every single day.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so anyway, uh, that means I'm out.
		I'm out.
		And, uh, I hate doing it.
		It would be like, there's only one other time that an injury ended up resulting in me not being able to work, and it was, uh, I got a root canal.
		No, uh, no, I got a crown put on.
		I got a crown put on.
		I had a root canal a long time ago and I had to get it fixed and that was three days of like... I think I still remember that.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		That was before, that was like 2018 or something.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I still remember the post about it because I was watching the show at the time.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And it's just like, I hate that I was sick a week ago and now it's like, this thing happens.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And I'm just like, you know, as my body begins to fall apart and I age and wither away, that's just the reality of it, right?
unidentified		Alright.
		37.
		Oh my god.
		You talk like you're 51.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no, I'm kidding.
		I'm mostly kidding.
		And it's because, like, outside of the hip thing, I don't notice anything about being 37 when I skate, except my hip started to hurt.
		And I'm like, there it is.
		That's literally just it.
		Knees are fine, jump strength, everything seems to be fine, actually doing new tricks, better tricks.
		And then, you know, after 23 or so years of skating, you get some damage in your cartilage, it's not healing, and now you go to the hospital.
		All right, the KL Tanker says, Seamus should not get a coffee blend.
		It should be hot chocolate with Lucky Charms marshmallows.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Perfect!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Actually, we had a really good idea for Seamus's blend, but I don't want to say anything just yet.
		Of course, that'll actually take some time, but the new ones are almost ready.
		The Mr. Boca's Pumpkin Spice Experience and the K-Cups should be available very, very soon.
		All right.
		Vasht says, This is literally MSM saying Trump called Neo-Nazis very fine people.
		I stand on principle.
		F Pence and F Fake News voting Vivek.
		You know, the issue is, what I get out of what Mike Pence said, when he was like, that's not my concern, I think it's fair to say he was trying to say, Ukraine was not my concern, but then he literally says, why can't it be our concern?
		He says, if you think it can't be one of the issues we care about, then you're mistaken.
		So, where are we at with it?
		Halfway.
		He didn't say, screw American cities.
		He didn't say, all for Ukraine and nothing else, Slava Ukrainia, he said, no look, Ukraine isn't my concern, America isn't, and doing right by America, but we can be leaders of the free world too.
		And I'm like, so the truth is closer to the middle.
		Some people may say, I don't care about Ukraine, put all your focus, don't waste time, and his argument is, we can do both.
		We can help Ukraine and help America.
		I don't know about that, dude.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		The government here continually proves that they cannot do both.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		They can rarely do one.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Andrew!
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Just my biggest problem with the whole Ukraine thing is, like I said to a friend today, regardless of what the details are about the new issue, I still don't see the off-ramp.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I don't see what gets us out of a, you know, out of the confrontation with Russia yet.
unidentified		And until I do, I'm just... Well, we're just shipping over more weapons of mass destruction.
unidentified		I mean, stuff that have been banned.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Cluster munitions.
		And it's going to escalate.
		Because they had criticized Russia for doing the same thing.
		Now the U.S.
		and the West is doing it.
		Yeah.
		Now troops, reserve troops, being sent to Europe?
		Come on.
unidentified		You've seen both the Russians and Ukrainian soldiers don't want to be fighting this war.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know what I'm looking forward to?
		I just want you to imagine this.
		So you're sitting on the sidewalk.
		Sitting up against a brick wall that is nothing but rubble, and the power lines have crashed down, the sky is orange, and there's just buildings collapsed everywhere, and you're covered in dirt, and you're shaking, and then you see, this is the best part, a liberal walks by, and you get to go, I told you so!
		It'll be so worth it, won't it?
unidentified		I was telling someone at the castle that like when we had all that smoke from the Canadian wildfires
		I'm like if we had like a nuclear like war this is how it would be every day if we survived the blast
		It would just be this haze. We can't breathe be terrible awful
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Andrew Roland says, if we elect Vivek, we Republicans get bragging rights to elect the first Native American president, thus ticking off the left, since they are obsessed with the first this and that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Isn't Vivek Indian?
unidentified		Yeah, I think so.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But not Native American?
unidentified		No, no, no.
unidentified		Yeah, I think he's Indian country.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I say the party switch later and then they'll take credit for it.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Won't matter.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		What do we have here in the old super chat box?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Ryan Ellis says, politicians will use our tax dollars to supply guns and ammo to foreigners.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They will also use our tax dollars to pass legislation that bans Americans from owning guns and ammo, the same guns they say are evil and have no place in society.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Weapons of war.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		We've armed every enemy we've ever had.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Here's a question for you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Andrew Reinheimer says, question for Shannon, how are your positions better than Mark Robinson?
unidentified		Oh, that's a North Carolina.
		Well, it kind of depends on what we're talking about, whether it's the education, the economy, or even the social issues.
		Mark Robinson is fairly authoritarian, very hard to the right.
		There's some things that we agree on, like the abolishment of Obamacare and trying to help some of the health care.
		But I'm also, I have some differences on the abortion aspects to where I too would like to see a 12 to 16 week abortion ban after, but with the exception of medical conditions that are there to save the mom's life and the baby's life where he's more negative on a lot of those aspects.
		So and he's a very hard right Republican.
		A lot of people are having, you know, a hard time stomaching a lot of his policies.
		But then one of my goals is to go after taxes and reduce the size of the government in North Carolina, which is going after the Department of Education or not just education, but our education system there is horrendous.
		I mean, we get the The North Carolina Education Lottery, which is really the only money that's going to our education system, yet we're 50th in the country.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		What state has the best education system in the country right now?
		Does anybody know?
		No idea.
		If you were to model your education department after one, what would you be looking to do for it?
unidentified		That's actually an excellent question.
		I probably need to look at who's number one.
		Florida?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Not in terms of like, outside of the academic approach, but in terms of the parental rights and cultural approach?
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Rhonda Sanders did a pretty good job.
unidentified		I'm a big fan of the whole school choice and the parents being involved.
		In North Carolina, we don't really have that.
		We're last, but yet the government is just... It's horrendous in education.
		I moved away from Louisiana because they had the worst education system when I was growing up, and I moved to North Carolina, and now we're the worst.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		It just followed you.
unidentified		It just followed me around.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right, we'll grab this one.
		Chuck Taylor says, for Phil, what was it like working with Shannon Lucas?
		He's my all-time favorite.
		Love all the remains.
		Saw you guys at HOB Cleveland in 07, but not since.
unidentified		Oh, wow.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Sick.
		Well, Shannon's great.
		At the time, you know, we were both really young and so we could only kind of make it work for one record, but we've since talked and I'm hoping that Shannon will do something for all that remains in the future, not like recording or anything, but we talked about getting him to do some drum playthroughs of stuff that he did in the Fall of Ideals, and hopefully we can get him to do that, so keep your eyes out.
		Cheers.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right, JR says, Libertarians tend to suffer the no true Scotsman fallacy a lot.
		Yeah.
		Bruno Bronowski says, Tim, why aren't you posting videos to Twitter yet?
		Stop being a bonus hole.
		I love you, brother.
		And he superchatted that four times.
		I think that might have been an accident.
		We actually are discussing that.
		The challenge is, I'm not sure a 20-minute segment would do as well on Twitter as it does on YouTube, because YouTube is a platform where you open the player and then work and listen.
		Twitter is, you're scrolling through.
		There is the potential now.
		I mean, Elon is doing an amazing job.
		Mad props.
		The picture-in-picture for videos?
		Brilliant.
		That does open the door.
		I think what we're looking at right now is uploading short clips, but typically about a minute long, and then, you know, linking to a longer form thing, or something like that.
		I think for what Twitter is, shorter form video would do really well to ignite conversation and generate plies.
		Because if I put up a 20-minute video on Twitter, someone's 10 minutes through, and then they say, oh, I'm going to comment on that.
		And then they reply, yeah, you said Trump did this, and he did that.
		That's what I think.
		Someone else is going to see that comment and be like, I didn't hear that part.
		Like, where in the video is that part?
unidentified		Right?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Because Twitter is very different.
		But you know, to be completely honest, it's about experimenting.
		And I think one of the things we're looking at is potentially simulcasting to Twitter Mainly because, I'll say I know this, the majority of people who follow me on Twitter do not watch this show live.
		They'll watch clips or something like that.
		And that if we did put up our show live 8pm on Twitter, I think we'd end up getting like 10 to 20 million more views than we already do.
		And so I think probably by the time I'm back I'm hoping that we figure out how we can do that effectively.
		And the monetization is a huge element of it.
unidentified		Your talker's doing pretty good on Twitter, isn't he?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and he's been getting like, he got what, like 70, 100 million views or whatever?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		First one, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And you know, Elon says, how many impressions do you generate is how much you get paid.
		Yo, the reality is, Tucker's generating a lot of ad impressions when he's getting 50 million views on a video.
		So, I genuinely think...
		It's hard to know for sure exactly what would happen if we went live on Twitter.
		I know a lot of people who follow me on Twitter do not watch live on YouTube.
		I know a lot of people really don't like YouTube and don't want to be here, but they are on Twitter because they got unbanned.
		And so, I wonder.
		I mean, I've seen a lot of people do live streams on Twitter to very little success.
		I wonder if we would have the same degree of success, but to be fair, I also have 1.7 million followers on Twitter.
		So maybe we would end up getting a million or so hits, and that's really enough, I mean, to be completely honest.
		So we'll see.
		I think one thing that Elon needs to do is he needs a grid format for videos.
		And when it comes to live, you need real time comments, not just thread comments.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		So chat like a similar to the chat function.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yup, yup, yup.
		And I hope he gets there.
		But either way, you know, we're interested in trying to multicast.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I wonder if you if you tweet while you're watching the video, if they could just put a timestamp in the in the tweet.
unidentified		Yeah.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Just a reference where they where you said in the video.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But real-time chat matters.
		When you re-watch these shows, you can see the real-time chat.
		Someone's comment goes along with right where the video is, and you can see that happen.
		That's an interaction that matters.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		When we do live, I'll interact pretty extensively with people in the chat as well.
		Not just the Super Chats, but if somebody makes a reference point, or I'll ask the chat for verify on this right here.
		If you're watching back and if you're watching the playthrough, that won't make sense unless you also follow the live chat replay.
		Right on.
unidentified		I think YouTube Shorts drive subscribers.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		And younger people tend to use them.
		But it's crazy.
		the way that like YouTube Shorts does that transition more to viewership in a way?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think YouTube Shorts drive subscribers. And younger people tend to use them. But it's crazy,
		the amount of views we're getting on Shorts is ridiculous.
		It's not worth any money though.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		No, it makes very, very little in the way of money.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But if it's advertising, you know.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		And it gets people that might not normally engage with the content, because if people are watching or used to more long-form content, especially like this show or our show is a two-hour podcast every day, that's very different than somebody who's literally going and scrolling and looking for YouTube shorts.
		So sometimes you'll actually, it's kind of interesting, you'll get people that are more that disagree with you more because they're looking for different content and they're not in the same sphere of influence.
		So you get a lot of people that end up pushing back on the stuff you say, which is awesome.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right, let's grab a super chat.
		Atherin Zala says, Tim, here's how you prove the world is round.
		If it was flat, cats would have knocked everything off the edge.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Fair, fair.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Compelling.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I love, I was reading about this and I was reading this post from a flat earther who said gravity's not real.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		What actually is happening is that the Earth is accelerating infinitely upwards, which creates... Every time a turtle appears underneath, which is constantly happening, that's pushing the Earth up because it's turtles all the way down.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, no, it's just, you know, the image was, it's not flat, it's more of like a disk with, like, rocks underneath it, like, hanging, and then... Rushing through space.
		And it's rushing through space.
		I love this.
		Yeah, they wasted their brain cells on that theory.
unidentified		I love it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If it was going the same speed, you would not experience gravity.
		You'd be in, you know, like stasis with plants.
		It has to be going faster.
		I'm just like, dude, or gravity like Israel.
		I don't know, man.
unidentified		Yeah, they wasted their brain cells.
unidentified		I love it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, Justice Skeptic says the best thing you said tonight,
		Tim was about the potheads.
		It's true.
		I'll have to go back and play it later from a pothead.
		All right on, you know, I.
		I don't think people shouldn't be allowed to, but I just think it is.
		It is not good.
		Solon Woodall says, the smell of cast brew coffee is one of the world's greatest inventions.
		Indeed.
		I'm going to say it again, because every morning when I've been having Appalachian nights, I just can't wrap my head around, I'm like, how is this so good?
		We got a bunch of beans, we tried mixing different kinds, I wanted a little darker roast, and we hit this blend that was so good, I'm just I'm not kidding.
		I love that stuff.
		I could just, like, drink, like, a gallon of it in the morning.
		We will grab some Super Chats here.
		We got Sideways saying, man, I think Ian might have been right about Ron and Vivek switching spots.
		I don't always agree with him, but he rolled a 20 on that one for sure.
		Yeah, I think maybe in a couple weeks, couple months, Vivek's gonna be number two.
		He's hitting it out of the park.
		You know, and unfortunately for Ron, I think the issue is he's got great policy, but the hatred towards him comes from a perceived disloyalty.
		That he went against Trump, that he was saying he's not gonna run, and then all of a sudden it was like all in the cards the whole time.
		I think people are pissed about that.
		But also it's probably that To a certain degree.
		Nobody really thinks Vivek is going to win, right?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		No.
unidentified		No, but what if Trump actually gets indicted for something, right?
		And then you lose that power base.
		Then all of a sudden you have an election in turmoil.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		He's already been indicted, but well, I mean, actually convicted.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		convicted convicted convicted yeah that would be absolute chaos God's other son
		says I've had hip issues for almost 30 years They eventually recruited my knees in their war against me.
		Get better soon.
		Yeah, my knees seem to be pretty good.
		I should, by all accounts, have legs that shake and I can barely stand because I've been skating for 23 years, sprained and rolled my ankle on dozens upon dozens of times.
		My knees should be, they make a disgusting sound when I bend them because, you know, just what I've been doing my whole life.
		But no issues whatsoever there.
		You know, like, I'm skating, and, uh, for the skate nerds out there, we went out to film, and I was like, I'm gonna do a nollie flip nose slide on the ledge, which is, you know, I guess it's a decently good trick, and I lock it in first try and slip out, and what I encountered when trying to- we were filming, is that I can't extend my left leg enough when I snap, when I pop the board, and it's causing me problems and pain, And I thought it would just go away.
		I'm like, I must have strained it or something.
		It did not.
		It got worse.
		And so I reached out to some pro athletes and I was just like, what do you think?
		And they were like, oh bro, dude, whoa, no, I know this.
		I've heard this story before.
		You need to call a doctor.
		And I was like, okay.
		And then they were just like, 20, 30 years ago, you know what they'd say to you?
		They'd say, well, life sucks.
		Take some ibuprofen and good luck.
		But now we've got all these treatments and they're like, no, no, no, get it in now.
		We'll take care of it.
		You'll be good as new.
		That's the reality of the world, man.
		I gotta go.
		And it won't be the first time.
		It actually is the first time, actually.
		I guess if you count the crown I got.
		But it won't be the last time.
		I'm only getting older.
		Nothing you can do about it.
		It'll happen.
		And c'est la vie.
		But I do think the important component here is all of you have been begging that we get Reserve hosts, backup hosts, and other co-hosts who can take over the show and host it in events.
		I'm incapacitated.
		So the show doesn't just cease to exist.
		And in fact, that's actually why Phil's here.
		And potentially in the future, Phil will be doing the same thing Seamus is doing, while we have Seamus.
		Seamus can handle it, but even Phil at some point.
		And then...
		It's gotta be more than just me, in the long run.
		So we've got morning show plans, a view-like show, studio is at like, I think maybe like 70% completion, construction's still underway, some hiccups along the way, but uh, it's common, it just takes a really long time to build this all.
		And then once the new facility's up, we're gonna be doing a morning show to compete with the view, with sane women.
		It's gonna be very fun.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I'm excited about that, especially considering the ladies that you've been talking about having on there.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I think it's gonna be a lot of fun.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's people everyone knows and loves.
		People we've had on the show before that are moms that have a moderate to, like, reasonable view of varying dispositions.
		Conservative, liberal, libertarian.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I say this with deep love for all of them.
		They're all big mouths.
		It's gonna be hilarious.
		I would just love to- Hilarious!
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		A Phil in the Morning show where you just yell at everyone in the morning.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I probably can do that, but I would rather- To wake you up.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I would rather hear the ladies, because they're gonna be- I'm telling you, it's gonna be great.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But we're doing as much as we can, so we'll grab one more Super Chat here.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What do we have?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		What's a good one?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		O'Liddy says, Tim, you should all shroom for one video during the day and in the wilderness.
		Ian was right, it's great.
		Well, I always tell people to consult their doctors.
		There has been a tremendous breakthrough in research pertaining to PTSD and trauma and psilocybin and things like that, but that's for a doctor to decide.
		And it is fair to say I believe recreational, it's legal in some states.
		So make sure you're always abiding by the law and talk to a medical professional about what's right for you.
		You can follow the show at TimCast IRL.
		You can follow me personally at TimCast.
		We may be posting clips from the show on that Twitter account.
		I think it's extremely likely within the next week or so.
		And smash the like button, subscribe to this channel.
		I am out all next week, but Seamus has you.
		We have a bunch of really, really great guests.
		This is really abrupt, and it was an opportunity to just try and get this hip thing done right away.
		So I really do appreciate everybody.
		As members at TimCast.com, you've afforded me the ability to take a sick day.
		Something I had not experienced for a very long time.
		If I didn't work, I didn't make money, but you guys as members have given me that gift.
		I really do appreciate it.
		Shannon, you want to shout anything out?
unidentified		Oh yeah, I mean thanks for having me and if anyone wants to read any policies or whatever you can find out on ShannonBray.us or really to kind of discuss anything.
unidentified		I'm fairly active on social media so ShannonBrayNC on Twitter and I'm happy to chat.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right on, thanks for coming.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I am Phil Labonte.
		I am PhilThatRemains on Twitter.
		I am PhilThatRemainsOfficial on Instagram.
		The band is All That Remains.
		We're available on Spotify, Apple Music, Pandora, the old YouTube.
		Next week I'm going to be in L.A.
		doing drums for some upcoming releases that we have planned, and if you follow me on Twitter, you'll see some updates for that.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Guys, my name is Brett Dasovic.
		It's at Brett Dasovic on Twitter and on Instagram.
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		It's a lot of fun.
unidentified		And I am Kellen.
		You guys can follow me at kellenpdl.
		I press the buttons on Fridays.
		And it was a great, great, great show.
		It was a lot of fun.
		So thanks, guys.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for hanging out, everybody.
		I also recommend checking out the Culture War episode from this morning at youtube.com slash TimCast.
		Debating the issue of, should, is drag appropriate for children?
		And I just want to address something for a lot of people.
		It's a mixed bag of comments.
		Some people are like, Tim, wow, you did a really great job letting this person speak and share all their ideas.
		We need to know what they're thinking.
		And other people being like, Tim, why didn't you push back and yell?
		The Culture War Show has had its moments of me arguing with people, but we're really trying to have other people express their ideas and have that conversation.
		So, what I'm hoping with the show is to get people to explain their ideas so that you can hear them, and then ask them questions and explore, in a somewhat Socratic method, what they're really thinking, and it does lead to contradictions.
		Some episodes will be better than others, but we're really trying to make sure that it's not just me arguing with someone.
		It is two people of different ideas discussing it, and so that was the plan.
		That being said, I will wrap it up here.

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