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jack posobiec
Biden mocks Second Amendment supporters, says you need F-16 to take on the government.
Biden has repeatedly mocked, he's from FoxNews.com, Biden has repeatedly mocked the Second Amendment.
Let's go down here, let's find the actual quote.
This is a story by Kyle Morris, a great writer.
We have to change, Biden said.
There's a lot of things we can change, but the American people by and large agree, you don't need a weapon of war.
I'm a second amendment guy.
I taught it for four years, six years in law school.
And guess what?
It doesn't say that you can own any weapon you want.
It says there are certain weapons that you can't own.
Even when it was passed, you couldn't own a cannon.
You can't own a machine gun.
I know I'm serious.
You know, I love these guys who say the second amendment is, you know, the tree.
You know what I love about these guys who say the Second Amendment is, you know, the tree of liberty is water with the blood of patriots.
Well, you want to do that?
You want to work against the government?
You need an F-16.
You need something else than an AR-15.
Now, we're also here with, joined with Ron Coleman, who is going to be on the main show tomorrow night, the featured guest, but he happened to be in town, so he brought him in.
A federal litigator, as we've said before.
Is that true, by the way?
ron coleman
Let's just go with the first comment that That those of I mean, I I came here in an f-16.
jack posobiec
You came here the f-16.
seamus coughlin
Wow.
jack posobiec
This is wrong.
Was it parked or did they drop you off?
ron coleman
It's running actually.
jack posobiec
Oh, it's running, okay.
seamus coughlin
You gotta turn that thing.
That's good.
Yeah, it's gonna be.
jack posobiec
That's gonna disturb the chicken.
ron coleman
But you said you were cold in here.
jack posobiec
Well, not me because I have the beanie.
ron coleman
Oh, you do have it.
Yes, I do.
Now he's not the only one in a beanie.
jack posobiec
But this idea.
First of all, About the Second Amendment saying you can't have these things.
ron coleman
The idea of him teaching law school is even more terrifying than the idea of his interpretation of the Second Amendment.
What you read, Jack, makes it sound as if he seems to think that the F-16 provision of the Constitution, that the Second Amendment Says you can't have a cannon!
seamus coughlin
That's factually not true.
There was a merchant who had a ship with cannons on it and he wrote a letter asking one of the founders if he could have them and he said, yes, you can!
So Biden's literally blatantly wrong!
ron coleman
But there's also no list of what weapons you can have and can't have in the Second Amendment.
If he means to say that from the very beginning there were regulations and there was a limit, then I'd like to know Well, he got that also, but he sure as hell didn't get it in the Constitution.
seamus coughlin
Also, if Biden is correct and it would be impossible for the American people to fight an effective insurgency against a tyrannical government without F-16s, what he's saying is we need to expand the Second Amendment to allow average Americans to own F-16s because the entire purpose of the Second Amendment is for people to be able to fight back against tyranny.
I don't think we actually need F-16s to fight tyranny if it comes to that.
ron coleman
But I understand that there is a program being considered now by the federal government to provide each new undocumented immigrant with an F-16.
seamus coughlin
Excuse me, that's an outdated term.
The term is friend we haven't made yet.
ron coleman
And what better way to make friends than with F-16s?
seamus coughlin
But I agree, give them F-16s, absolutely.
jack posobiec
As they say, you know, good F-16s make good neighbors.
unidentified
Well, on the contrary of that, though, we have Gavin Newsom, right?
We were talking about it earlier.
What has he just presented?
Amendment number 29, I think it is?
serge du preez
I think so.
unidentified
Like, hey, it's time to amend the 29 so that we can amend the second?
You know, it's kind of insane.
And what's really weird to me—I don't think we touched about this on the main show—was that it's him that presented this amendment.
Why wouldn't it be Biden?
He's running for re-election.
We were kind of talking about that, right?
jack posobiec
Yeah, I was going to go back to you on that.
I was going to go back to you on that.
Do you think, you know, I mean, you're there in California.
Do you think, here's my read on it, that Newsom is, he's not willing to do the RFK thing and say, I'm going to primary a sitting president, but he's sort of waving his hand saying, You know, I'm here.
I'm here if you need me.
Put me in, coach.
I'm going on Hannity.
I'm willing to go toe-to-toe.
ron coleman
And it's a really pointed question because we know who they don't want to be the nominee.
jack posobiec
Is RFK.
ron coleman
Well, not only RFK.
unidentified
I actually have a really good scenario for this.
Not for us, of course, but just the best case scenario for that is that Gavin Newsom is doing what, in my opinion, Ron DeSantis should have done.
He should have been like, I'm waiting my turn, if you guys need me, you know, etc.
But of course, Ron DeSantis decided to run, and I think he shot himself in the foot for any potential real scenario for 2028.
But here's what I think is happening.
I think the DNC is scared about what's happening with Donald Trump and the indictments and what they are doing.
I think if you are a common sense person, you understand that what they're doing to Donald Trump is because you're pulling out all the stops to stop this guy.
And I think that the DNC is willing to even sacrifice one of their own, and it's going to be Joe Biden.
It's going to come at this charisma trial.
jack posobiec
You think they need like a stronger guy to come in?
seamus coughlin
Well, that's what I thought they were doing in 2020 though.
I thought they were trying to find a burner candidate because they didn't think they had it.
unidentified
Well, Joe Biden's already in the inside.
He's got a lot of political connections.
I mean, foreign, whatever.
There's a lot of political entities abroad that can help this guy win presidency.
jack posobiec
There's a lot of investment in the Biden brand.
unidentified
But you brought up a good point.
How do you get rid of Kamala Harris?
So I feel like I put a piece to the puzzle.
One of the reasons, and I heard this on The Five, on Fox News, and it was a Democrat talking, and she was saying, there's no possible real scenario where the black community is going to accept that Kamala Harris is not going to be next in line if they were to get rid of Joe Biden.
ron coleman
The black community?
seamus coughlin
Do you think that's true?
jack posobiec
I don't buy that.
unidentified
I agree.
jack posobiec
I'm skeptical of that, dude.
unidentified
No, no, but what I am saying is they're still going to vote Democrat because they vote blue.
They're going to vote blue no matter who.
But what I am saying is they're going to demand that it be her next.
So here's what you can do.
What you'll try to do is you come after Trump and you sacrifice Joe Biden.
Well, now what happens with Kamala Harris?
Well, with Kamala Harris, you just replace her with another black woman.
I can't think of a more powerful ticket, whether it's 2024 or 2028, than Gavin Newsom And Michelle Obama.
ian crossland
But who would be president?
Michelle or Gavin?
jack posobiec
Wouldn't Michelle run for president?
seamus coughlin
No, I don't think so.
unidentified
She'll be vice president.
She'll be Gavin Newsom's VP pick.
seamus coughlin
So the Democrats have actually been losing the black vote gradually since Obama's term ended.
No, it's true.
Historic numbers of black people voted for Trump.
Historic numbers of black people voted for Trump the second time.
jack posobiec
Biden actually got nowhere near a majority.
seamus coughlin
Nowhere near majority.
That's absolutely correct.
But it doesn't need to be majority.
If it falls beneath 50 or 85 percent of the black population voting Democrat, they can't win.
And it's approaching that.
It's actually approaching that.
unidentified
But the thing is, is that if you sell Democrats a Biden Kamala, it's already pretty unfavorable.
But if you give them Gavin Newsom and Michelle Obama, I'm telling you because I hear it from people all the time.
One thing about people in California is People that show up for the community are the people that matter to them.
I'll be honest, even sometimes podcasts are just not effective because people in the inner city, they're not... Who's this guy talking about?
jack posobiec
Ron's sitting here, Ron's sitting here looking at me like, cut this guy's mic!
What do you mean podcasts aren't effective?
Throw him out of here!
unidentified
But what I mean is for the average voter.
If I go to a street vendor, if I go get tacos, I'm not going to tell the lady that I came.
jack posobiec
Wow, stereotypical.
unidentified
No, hey, this is my community.
I'm just saying, the people that show up, the people that knock on doors, the people that show their faces, look, Republicans are not known.
Well, Republicans are not known for coming up to show up to these inner-city places.
They just don't campaign.
Donald Trump, the only reason he came to California was to fundraise.
And again, no fault to them, but they just ride off California.
jack posobiec
No, you know what, though?
Here's what I think.
I think, to both of your points, I think that one of the reasons that they have invested so heavily, and we're going to get back to the F-16s, don't worry, but one of the reasons that they've invested so heavily in these ballot operations that they've switched the Format that which we hold elections they we've gone from the the civic community ritual of an election day where people go out when I remember going with my father to the local middle school in the gymnasium and you're waiting in line you had the actual levers and you knew the people that was the original voter ID
The original voter ID election integrity was that you knew the people working the polls.
They said, Hey John, how's your boy Jack?
What are you doing?
Oh, where's Lori?
She's still at work.
She's coming when she's off shift.
Great.
And you know, hope to see your, you know, the other kids.
And then when I got older and I started voting, they said, Hey Jack, I saw your dad earlier.
So your mom came by, is your brother coming in?
You know, it's like, it's, it's, you know, the people, right.
They've, they've done away with that completely because now it's all about ballots.
It's just about ballots.
And a ballot is if you can just get anybody To fill out one of those ballots, and then you're paying people to go door-to-door with these ballots in targeted neighborhoods.
That is why they've switched all this, because in order to do that, look, now you're just paying for votes.
I find it morally repugnant, but you know what?
It's effective.
unidentified
And it's legal.
seamus coughlin
Once again, people are reduced to what they can provide to us, right?
jack posobiec
Exactly.
seamus coughlin
There is not a relationship between yourself and the person in the poll.
jack posobiec
Have the Democrats ever looked at it otherwise?
seamus coughlin
Never, ever.
They're materialists, right?
Man is just a machine.
jack posobiec
Right.
seamus coughlin
What does he give me?
What does that machine give me?
jack posobiec
Speaking of machines, I do want to get into the more salacious topic at hand of the question of an insurgency in the United States against the U.S.
government.
Logistically, Red Dawn is a movie that... Documentary, actually.
Pre-documentary.
No, obviously, that's about the Soviet Union with the great...
The father of the great Amanda Milius, John Milius, made the film.
Incredible, incredible writer, director, filmmaker.
He also wrote Apocalypse Now.
He's behind the HBO series, Rome, which is absolutely fantastic.
One of the last mainstream things they let him write.
Huge shout out to them.
But no, obviously that's the Soviet Union, that's the Red Army, et cetera.
But what we're still talking about is a military force versus- Civilian population.
A civilian population, kids, a town, hunters in the woods.
ron coleman
And there's one thing we know now is that people used to say, well, listen, American troops will never fire on American civilians.
That'll never happen.
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Every single one of these... Killed protesters at the US Capitol?
ron coleman
Every one of these uniformed services has shown that they just follow orders and protect pensions.
That's their priority.
So you have to definitely look at authority as As a lawyer, I cannot speak quite as freely as some other people around this table might.
Even, you know, even in closed sessions such as we are right, you know, today.
jack posobiec
But point being is you've seen, we've seen, we've all seen the ability of police and I say this as someone who, and to your point that, you know, I don't think we can get rid of this system.
I think we should take over the system.
unidentified
Correct.
jack posobiec
And use it for our own design, our own purposes.
Because I generally think that this idea of, oh, just run off into the hinterlands and they'll leave us alone, it's just such a losing argument.
It's not going to work.
What's the whole live and let live?
You need to fight back.
You need to fight to take over the system.
Now, obviously, you have to be smart about that.
And if you're living in a shooting gallery, then that's probably not a good base of operations for your Your political counterinsurgency.
But, you know, Seamus, you and I were talking earlier about a potential actual insurgency.
seamus coughlin
We basically wrote the script in the next Red Dawn.
ron coleman
Which is exactly what people have been saying about you, Jack, for how long?
jack posobiec
For quite some time.
seamus coughlin
Next great screenwriter.
ron coleman
So what would be a better move?
jack posobiec
Actually, if you look at my current, you know, from your friends at the SPLC, I believe their current, their current, how many, you're suing them how many times right now?
ron coleman
Well, let's measure it by years.
jack posobiec
How many years, yeah.
Their current, the first line is, a leader of the anti-democracy hard right.
Wow, that's great, better than my Wikipedia.
Really good, honestly.
I know, right?
unidentified
I want that on my cards if I had cards.
seamus coughlin
They called you based in monarchy pills?
jack posobiec
So what Biden's talking about is an actual insurgency against the United States military.
And I'm going to come out and play devil's advocate here to an extent and say, look, I know there's a lot of people that say, hey man, 2A, let's go, let's roll, let's do it.
I just don't think that wide swaths of the country are conducive to an insurgency against the U.S.
government.
This is the most powerful government in human history, the most powerful military in human history.
They will largely be able to take over every major city very quickly, any area that has a large military base.
ron coleman
And coordination would be impossible.
jack posobiec
Coordination would be absolutely impossible.
unidentified
Bombs would be down immediately.
Immediately.
jack posobiec
So you would have areas like Appalachia, which would be potentially, you know, sort of like a readout, right, if you will.
It's kind of like, like there are areas like, well there are areas, like this is why insurgencies were, that the geographies of Vietnam, the geography of Afghanistan, so jungles, mountains, desert, that were conducive, well mountainous desert, were conducive to insurgency.
Whereas Southern Columbia has a huge rebel problem because it's just dense juggle, canopies.
This comes up in Sound of Freedom.
Actually they have to go into rebel areas because one of the girls that they're tracking was actually sold to the rebels and they realized that she's not even with the original group of pedophiles, that they sold her out to the rebel group so they've got to go into like FARC and all this.
Rebel Controlled Air.
It's, you know, some cool action scenes, actually, in that part with, you know, Jim Caviezel and everything.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, I gotta see this.
jack posobiec
This sounds... It's very... I mean, it's tough.
There's tough scenes, but then it gets into pretty good action towards the end.
But anyway, point being is that, yeah, there would be parts of the U.S.
that would hold out longer, I suppose, but that's not a majority.
ian crossland
Yeah, I don't think so.
So, hold on.
unidentified
I don't think there would be a single state that would... Bunch of naysayers.
ian crossland
Two things.
seamus coughlin
A bunch of naysayers who hate America.
unidentified
No, no, no.
Here's the reality.
Two things lead me to that.
January 6th.
All we did, I mean, there's literally Meemaw carrying an American flag and that was condemned by people like Ted Cruz out of Texas saying that we are domestic terrorists for going in the Capitol.
To this day, I have never condemned what happened on January 6th.
None of the events.
Because, look, if you're a real 1776er and you want to say, oh, if it was George Washington leading, I would be right there with him.
I mean, think about this really today.
Put out this scenario.
George Washington comes up to you and says like, hey man, we're going to go kill men with families, military men with families, Christians, many of whom you know, because of taxes, and we're going to kill them, and we're going to start our own country.
Really think about what that means.
We're gonna go kill Christian men, or claim to be at least, right?
But that's not how the revolution started.
jack posobiec
George didn't just go around to people and say, hey guys, let's go do this.
There was a constitutional convention, there were delegates, there were chosen leaders who came to the state house and Philadelphia, which later we came in.
unidentified
But at the end of the day, it came down to who?
seamus coughlin
J6 was a Fed-surrection, right?
Absolutely.
Like, Ray Absolute was saying, let's go into the Capitol, and all the protesters there were saying, you're a Fed, get out of here, anyone who's telling us to go to the Capitol.
jack posobiec
Did you see the memes they made from LA, where they put my face, and then, I think it was Grand Old Memes made it, where he put Ray Absolute here, he said, we need to go into Dodger Stadium.
We need to get inside of it.
unidentified
I kind of largely disagree.
I think January 6th was mostly- You don't think it was a Fed-surrection?
No, definitely not.
I definitely don't.
I think that there were bad actors, but I think you can find them anywhere.
You can find them in a lot of them.
seamus coughlin
But the people who pushed for the breach were Feds.
Like Ray Epps was the first guy who breached a barrier.
jack posobiec
But at the end of the day, they were not Feds.
seamus coughlin
No, a lot of people, the doors were open for them and they were let in, but they didn't even, there were a lot of people who didn't even realize that they weren't allowed to be there.
unidentified
Right, exactly, and that's what I'm saying.
seamus coughlin
So that's my point.
This was not like a bunch of people saying, let's storm the Capitol and like stop the certification.
unidentified
It was, it was literally protestors who were goaded by the fence.
ron coleman
Instead of thinking about this idea of, let's raise an army, let's fight the government.
jack posobiec
That'll be destroyed immediately.
unidentified
It'll never happen.
seamus coughlin
You guys are communists.
ron coleman
All right, you guys are all commies!
But what I do think is theoretically possible is... How'd they do in Michigan?
To destabilize certain areas.
In other words, not set peace battles, and not even insurrection battles as we know them, you know, choose your Disastrous American attempt to deal with insurgencies of your choice, but there's all sorts of alternate history novels about this and From the second look what if the Confederacy took over states and continued exactly.
I mean you you you can make it costly and But the problem is, as you point out, Jack, people don't really appreciate, and Biden, or whoever was whispering into his earpiece at that moment, is right about this.
unidentified
Ray Epps.
jack posobiec
Ray Epps actually is in control of the regime.
That's why you can't charge him.
He wouldn't ever charge himself.
ron coleman
There is really no way, it is impossible to say that the Second Amendment is a meaningful And I'll tell you something else.
There is a, you know, a segment among Jewish people who, and we might have even been in a thread once where we discussed this issue.
If the first thing the Nazis did was round up all the guns and look what happened.
They killed, you know, two thirds of the Jews in Europe.
You think that if the Jews had guns, okay, and by the way, Jews and guns, Israelis is a different category, okay?
Jews of Europe and guns was not ever really a thing.
They did have kind of paramilitary groups that like Begin was, but really, really small scale.
The point is though, even your best case scenario, self-defense.
jack posobiec
Warsaw Ghetto Uprising?
ron coleman
The Germans had so many things going.
They had already completely lost the war by the time of the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising.
They pulled out some pocket change just to deal with the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising.
It took them a couple of weeks.
They did have to spend a couple of weeks, but that's all they had to spend.
jack posobiec
Right, and the entire city of Warsaw was leveled in response.
ron coleman
Literally, while Soviet troops stood outside with their arms folded.
Oh yeah, oh yeah.
jack posobiec
So the entire city was leveled.
That's why if you go to Poland now, I had a friend who just, we used to work together and said, hey, you know, we're going to Poland with some people, where should I go in Warsaw?
And honestly, as You know, as sad as it is, you know, and there's great memorials, there's great museums.
The old city of Warsaw, Warszawa, is like this tiny little district of the city because most of it was destroyed in the war and then rebuilt by the Soviets.
So it's, you know, it's like Soviet block housing.
You mentioned Vietnam and how the jungle was... Whereas Krakow, on the other hand, is gorgeous.
ian crossland
How mountains and jungles were conducive to insurgencies, but now with air power, not only was the surface being napalmed to hell in Vietnam, the Viet Cong were trying to fight with Russian and Chinese weapons, they were living underground for like 10 years in tunnels.
So unless people are willing to live underground, it's not on the radar, and even then you're gonna lose.
seamus coughlin
So hold on, I have to, because we've heard a lot of pro-arguments and I haven't had a chance to make the anti-argument.
I disagree with you guys because you were pro-communism arguments by saying that the people could not be effective in an insurgency.
So I think the problem is, and by the way, at scale, so here's what I'll say.
I want to make clear, and I don't think that you guys think this, but I think what a lot of people believe about a potential second American revolution or an insurgency where people are fighting the government is they picture this as an open conflict where the Americans are on one side with their ARs and the government is on the other side with their M4s and their tanks.
But what would happen is they would take over certain cities, and then you would have insurgents who would basically go around and have these small skirmishes in battle.
And again, I'm not saying I advocate for this under a just war framework, but you'd have people climbing up to towers and just sniping soldiers on street corners.
jack posobiec
To be clear, we are responding to what Joe Biden said today.
seamus coughlin
That's what we're responding to.
There's two things with what Joe Biden said.
We're not advocating for any of these No, no, no, of course not, of course not.
But what I'm saying is, firstly, it is a little bit strange that Joe Biden has repeatedly threatened the American people with military power.
Sounds like something a fascist would do, right?
Locking up his political opponent while he threatens the American people with military force and tells them they're powerless against him.
Sounds a little fascistic.
I'll also say that Different parts of the country would obviously fare differently.
Something that could happen is rival nations who don't necessarily agree with the cause of the insurgents could start to fund the rebel groups who are fighting the U.S.
government.
ron coleman
Maybe even a very large rival nation that is actually on the decline.
But what but but it remains and always has been extremely opportunistic and would and could see nothing about or maybe even to maybe to actually maybe one real communist nation and one de facto communist nation, I mean There's a gigantic IOU coming from the Russians whether Putin would be around by the time this is true But but China what an opportunity like you said, they wouldn't have to be the least bit sympathetic.
unidentified
Here's to the revolutionaries. Here's how I think it would shake
seamus coughlin
out. Can I just make one more point before, I just want to make one more point, which is, it's not,
before I, before I denounce this, it's not just a question of how, how effective or
victorious it would be. I think that there, that is an important question, but there's also a question
of how difficult, there's also a question of how difficult do you make it for the tyrants, right?
Because they have drones, they have bombs.
ron coleman
Ladies and gentlemen, he's just saying what I said with a lot more words.
seamus coughlin
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Hold on, because you guys, you guys, you want to total up the number of words you guys said and compare it to what I'm saying.
I'm happy to, but what I will add is that people, I mean, people on the ground, so I've spoken to people and I have friends who are in Iraq and Afghanistan and one thing I remember them saying that really stuck with me is in Afghanistan there was a sniper who was picking people off and they were terrified and it made them not want to do their job and they didn't say oh well I was comforted because we have drones and because we have nukes and because we have tanks they said I was terrified I didn't want to do my job.
The goal of an insurgency is to get the soldiers to want to leave and for the people who are actually on the ground there to abdicate and refuse to fight in that area.
ron coleman
I will tell you that during I remember Solzhenitsyn yes and I do remember Solzhenitsyn Saying, you can't really think the Russians are going to ever leave Afghanistan, do you?
The Russians aren't like the Americans.
They will just keep pouring death on the Afghanis.
And guess what?
He was wrong.
He was wrong.
Because that is what the power, in the right terrain, with the right motivation... By the way, Afghanistan has a history of being unconquerable to everyone.
jack posobiec
And someone in the chat actually just said, and I'm kind of like scrolling through some of it, but someone just said, look, I think realistically 90% of people would just, you know, 90% of the country would fold if the government takes the money, the food, shuts down the internet.
unidentified
And that was a point I was actually trying to make.
Dude, the government doesn't have to threaten you with F-15s, you know, and they proved this during the pandemic.
You know what they have to threaten you with?
Your security.
90% plus of people, if you're slightly inconvenienced, you give in.
So all these people that say, like, oh, well, if they try to come to my house... Imagine all the informants!
jack posobiec
Imagine how many people would be informed on!
Oh, they got a flag up in that house!
Kick them out!
seamus coughlin
Don't let these commies black pill you, alright?
unidentified
No, no, I'm just saying, man, if you think they're rationalizing, you'd all be ratted out.
ron coleman
Exactly.
jack posobiec
Remember the pandemic?
seamus coughlin
You'd be ratted out!
jack posobiec
Oh yeah, 100%.
seamus coughlin
You'd be ratted out.
My friends are cool.
unidentified
I still remember the Asian media.
ron coleman
You're already so high up the list.
jack posobiec
That being said, we've got Defense In-Depth, the same as the Russians do in Zaporizhia.
We've got Defense In-Depth at the Pozo compound and I have multiple readouts with which I can find myself.
Those people around right now, sure, but they ain't gonna find it.
ron coleman
Yeah, but let them come into Brooklyn.
We'll show everything.
unidentified
Brooklyn's gonna help us out.
No, but look man, you threaten a man and his family to turn off his water and you're not able to shop at the grocery store until you turn in those guns or whatever.
I'm telling you, 90% plus of people, even those hardcore... It's not only turning those guns, it's tell me who bought guns on the street.
Who are you harboring?
What other people have thought like you?
How do you guys communicate?
There's no shadow of a doubt.
This comes up in Red Dawn.
jack posobiec
This comes up in Red Dawn.
They make the guy swallow the transmitter.
He's the son of the mayor.
They make him swallow the transmitter.
And then he knows and he goes back to his friends and they find out.
And that's how the Soviets find them.
And that's where, and they kill him and they shoot him.
unidentified
And look, maybe, I don't know where you all like were originally doing a pandemic, but you guys got to remember, man, I was in Los Angeles.
I wasn't bro.
I wasn't allowed.
I wasn't allowed to go.
I got kicked out of restaurants.
I tried to pull out the veteran card.
Like, dude, you're going to kick out a U.S.
veteran that served this country because they didn't care.
They don't care.
They're like, you're wearing the mask and you're going to put the mask on your children and you will show us the vaccine.
Dude, I'm telling you, man, it's going to happen.
seamus coughlin
You know what I mean?
So I agree that a lot of people throughout this country absolutely are going to cave in.
What I'm saying is, I think, especially in places that are really... Not us, though.
No, well, not me, obviously.
ron coleman
But what I'm saying is... You can destabilize and you can make them... See, the real question, I think, is can you hit a breaking point?
Can you hit a point where they would actually, notwithstanding that they would say, we're never going to negotiate, we're never going to compromise, can you impose costs on them that would require them to however Disguised it might be, have to compromise.
Exactly.
Because that has the potential.
I don't think so.
seamus coughlin
There's a reason they're trying to get our guns now though, right?
I don't think so.
ron coleman
I don't think that's why.
seamus coughlin
You don't think so?
I'm curious, why do you guys think they have the gun control?
jack posobiec
Because here's what's really gonna happen is that they've realized that, like Gavin Newsom says that about the 29th, We're going to bring the 29th amendment and it's going to be great, Sean.
unidentified
You'll see.
serge du preez
That's a good one.
jack posobiec
It's going to be so great.
Sean, what are you thinking?
ron coleman
All you red states.
jack posobiec
We're the ones who make all the money.
You guys suck it down.
Look, look, here's, here's what they've really done.
And Ron, you know, this is better than me.
that look at Kyle Rittenhouse, look at Daniel Penny who didn't even use a gun.
What they've done is they've realized that they're never gonna get rid of the second amendment
because they can't get rid of the right to self-defense.
So what are they gonna get rid of?
The right, the ability to actually use your guns for self-defense.
They'll take away the right to self-defense so that if you effectively,
Affect the use if you exercise your right to self-defense Which I've always said is the positive expression of the
right to life even you do not have a right to life if you are not able to
defend your life in a Positive manner the way Kyle Rittenhouse did in in the
streets of Kenosha. It's probably the most famous example that we've ever seen
that They realize that look if they can't take your right away
at the ballot box So they can't take your right away at the amendment level.
They'll take it away in the courtroom, right?
I'll take it away and jury box There's something else and they will do it in every single
unidentified
district that they possibly can They also want to make a political statement.
ron coleman
Flip side of what, maybe, no, maybe it's different from what you're saying.
Our people, our side, our base, our donors are against guns.
And we're the anti-gun party.
Were they really worried that Kyle Rittenhouse, if he were not in prison, was going to be out on the streets shooting people?
Obviously not.
Are they really worried that American citizens, if they're allowed to buy guns, are going to Actually form an insurrection?
No.
What they're doing is they're slapping down the red districts.
They're slapping down, they're reassuring their base, their donors, their supporters, the media, the institutions.
We've got this.
We're going to turn these people and the infrastructure, financial, cultural, economic, industrial, that supports them, pay to be associated with our political enemies.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
unidentified
And that's why I was bringing it up earlier where it's like, you know, uh, Rittenhouse, I think he got a fair deal because he had good representation.
I think he had a good, fair judge that saw the facts and was like, look, there's just not enough evidence here.
A body of his peers.
seamus coughlin
Not just not enough evidence, but the evidence shows that he was acting in self-defense.
unidentified
Correct.
seamus coughlin
There was enough evidence.
unidentified
But here's the thing is that that was such a unique case and like the guy from New York, the New York subway guy, right?
Jack, you were just talking about.
Daniel Penney.
jack posobiec
He will be convicted.
I would say right now, he's gonna run.
unidentified
But that's what I'm saying.
And I actually got into a huge argument with Cernovich was like, this is why you need to abandon the cities.
Never ever stand up for good people.
And I was like, bro, what a stupid, what a stupid statement.
You know what I mean?
Like what, what an asinine statement.
I told him and I replied to him, I'm like, bro, what the hell?
Like as a Christian, I do right.
Not because I fear consequence of what the city's going to do for me.
I do right in the face of evil because I am commanded.
To do so by my God.
I'm not going to, I'm not, imagine like watching an innocent girl get brutally raped or, or, or more violent or whatever the case might be.
And you're like, well, I'm in a blue district.
I better not interfere because I fear prison.
Bro, what?
Like I'm coming after this guy.
And if the radical DA wants to sentence me, then so be it.
ron coleman
Mike says things to make points.
He doesn't necessarily prescribe that you follow his literal plan.
You know what I mean?
unidentified
No, but we went back and forth.
But if Mike were there... He was adamant for it.
He was like, no, what a stupid thing.
Anthony, because he follows me, he's like, Anthony, you got a family.
Why don't you think about your children?
So you want to be this virtuous Christian guy and sit in prison?
ron coleman
If Mike were there, he would do the right thing.
unidentified
I'm sure, but the problem is that a lot of these followers, including the ones that follow like Kattred and all that stuff, they see these statements, they hear these people saying, this is why you never do what's right, because you are punished for it.
But look, going back to... What are you living for?
Right!
Exactly!
So then what's the point of being... So why... Exactly!
And that was my point, and he got so, like, angry.
I don't know if he unfollowed me after it.
But to the point of that, that's why you need to go back... Just the last point right here.
That's why we need to fight for the cities.
That's why Tim Poole, and I wanted to tell him here today... Dude, you backtracked.
You saw the Daniel Penney case.
jack posobiec
But those people voted for that.
unidentified
No, no.
jack posobiec
They all voted for that.
unidentified
Not really though, man, because there's a lot of people that don't know what's going on.
Okay, let's be honest.
jack posobiec
Nobody votes for more murder, but they don't... I mean, if you vote John Krasny... You vote... Why does Larry Krasny keep getting elected in Philadelphia?
unidentified
Right, I understand that, but what I'm saying is the average person, the average city dweller... I'm telling you, man, because I speak with these people all the time.
When Roe v. Wade happened, there were street vendors there, Hispanic, barely any English, but they were selling to the crowd.
They said, what are they protesting?
In Spanish, they told me, because they know I speak Spanish.
I'm like, they're protesting for the right to abortion up to nine months.
And they're like, what in the hell?
And there were We're just so shocked.
And I'm like, what do you think about abortion?
And like, dude, we have our kids here.
My husband's over there on that corner selling to the crowd.
Cause we need to make money.
I'm here.
And we've got the kids with us and they help us.
Like I would never abort a child.
I'm like, by chance, do you vote?
And they're like, Oh, we're not really political.
Like we just, we just want to make money.
We came to this country to work.
But again, it's not that they're voting for it.
jack posobiec
We've seen this.
We've seen this time and time again, where this George W. Bush had this whole thing about like, Oh, The more immigrants we bring from traditionally socially conservative areas, they're natural conservatives.
Remember natural conservatives?
They're going to vote with the right.
Finally, they're going to be right.
And it's just not true.
It's never borne out in voting populations.
I'll hold Florida out as a recent potential, but by and large, that is not the voting patterns we see.
unidentified
The highest density of Catholics is in Southern California.
No, they don't.
They just don't vote.
They just don't vote.
We're not reaching those voters.
That's what I'm saying.
Like we're not reaching those voters.
Why?
Because California continues to be overlooked as just give it up, just give up California.
But there are so many potential voters, but the Republican party would rather have, you know, and I say this because I'm a state delegate.
I go to all these fancy dinners.
They waste all this money on nice centerpieces.
Look, man, Wasn't there just a huge recall attempt on Newsom?
jack posobiec
I thought he was still in office.
What do you mean?
A recall attempt on Newsom?
unidentified
Right, and we successfully recalled him, but we ended up failing because...
jack posobiec
I thought he was still in office.
unidentified
No, I understand. I've said the recall was successful.
What do you mean?
seamus coughlin
The election.
unidentified
Because we made the election happen. That's what I'm saying.
So like the recall, like it was a successful recall.
serge du preez
But then he just got reelected.
unidentified
But then he ended up getting reelected, right.
Because the way it works is for a special election like that, everyone has to rally all their votes on one candidate.
It's not like where they have a primary and then a general election.
It's just whoever gets the most votes.
jack posobiec
That's how Schwarzenegger got in, right?
unidentified
You had like 12 Republicans running and Larry Elder, I think, had the most votes.
ron coleman
Actually, Schwarzenegger got in because he was a rocket scientist and he needed something to talk about.
seamus coughlin
That's right.
unidentified
Screw your patriotism, you know, or screw your freedom.
jack posobiec
But it was an election like that when Schwarzenegger first got in, right?
serge du preez
Something like that.
ron coleman
A special election, yeah.
But, Jack, I actually thought the trend on Hispanic votes was slowly trending towards It does, and historically it's always been at least 30%.
Like you said, forget the Cubans.
We're not talking about Cubans.
jack posobiec
I'm going to hold Florida out as a very special case because you get Cubans that do go to Florida, but Hispanics, and I'm not going to speak of Hispanics, but the idea is that Hispanics are a monolith.
It's like, oh, all Hispanics are the same.
It's just not true.
unidentified
Oh yeah, of course.
jack posobiec
Go up to a Puerto Rican and call them a Mexican and find out what happens.
Oh yeah.
Yeah, it's not going to go well for you.
unidentified
But that's the thing is that if you're going to be in the community like I am, you have to understand, okay, well, what are your problems, right?
So one example, crime is really high right now, right, in Los Angeles.
No one's arguing that and, you know, inadvertently, yes, people are voting for those policies because like, hey, if you vote down gun rights, you're voting for more crime.
Right.
serge du preez
A lot of people don't understand that.
unidentified
Right.
Exactly.
But people don't correlate that.
serge du preez
They don't correlate those things.
unidentified
They think they're doing good because that's what they're being told.
Like, hey, the reason why crime is so high is because, and guess what?
Republicans are not showing up to do a counter argument.
And so, for example, street vendors, people that sell ice cream, a lot of these people, immigrants, right?
They're here on residency, whatever.
serge du preez
It's like corn.
unidentified
They are being targeted right now by high crime.
Well, there's a socialist activist out there, the Democratic Socialists of America, are working with them to fundraise for them.
Well, the Republican Party, you know what they could be doing?
Arm them.
Why aren't you gathering up all these street vendors and saying, you know what's better than getting attacked and getting a GoFundMe for $8,000 at a time?
How about we train you and we have you have your constitutional right to a gun?
Now, think about this.
It's twofold.
You arm the street vendors against crime.
The second one is, how will Democrats defend this?
They're going to be like, oh, well, we don't believe in constitutional carry.
It's still hard to do in LA.
ron coleman
They're not going to give them permits.
serge du preez
Yeah, it's still hard to do.
ron coleman
We haven't gotten rid of the permit system.
unidentified
Exactly.
Right.
So the argument is going to be like, well, we're not just going to give them like guns, like we're against guns.
So then your argument as a Republican should be like, so you are saying that these immigrants that are hardworking are not entitled to Second Amendment constitutional rights.
ron coleman
That's what they said about the Koreans.
unidentified
You make it about them.
You make it and then you tell them, look, Look at what you're doing to the Hispanic community.
jack posobiec
But that's also a great example of my point, though, that LA had the rooftop Koreans, LA had the LA riots, LA had everything that went on.
Lessons not learned.
Right.
And show me the lesson learned.
It's only become progressively worse, progressively blue, progressively trending in that direction.
But why?
unidentified
Because we convince people, just get out of there.
So more people are leaving California.
Who's staying back to fight?
No one, because everyone's like, well, I don't know.
seamus coughlin
So I wouldn't say that the reason is just because everyone's been leaving California.
People have been moving out of there.
jack posobiec
A lot of blue Democrats have also left California.
Like this is an issue they're having in Texas.
There's a huge issue in Arizona.
Correct.
But it's also an issue with Republicans that made it more purpular, as I like to say, in some of these states.
Because like, I'll go to Phoenix, right?
So when I go to see Turning Point, when I go to do work out of there, I was there last week, so I was in Phoenix for a couple of days before I went out to LA, because it's like a quicker flight, so we do the show out of there.
And you go to Phoenix airport and you're surrounded by California people.
It's like, you could just tell it's culturally Californian.
The people are Californian.
They're dressed like, they're Californians.
It should be illegal.
unidentified
No California should be allowed to flee.
I'd be all for it.
And a lot of red people would be all for it too.
jack posobiec
And I guess what I mean to say is like, they're not like conservative Californians.
It's just, you can tell, like these are California people.
And to the same, by the same token, you see a lot of, you know, Hollywood celebrities are now buying land and buying Yeah.
Houses in Scottsdale.
unidentified
You want to know what it is?
serge du preez
So guys, I hate to cut in.
I really hate to cut in, but we got to go to college.
jack posobiec
I do need the heads on there for this, right?
ian crossland
Can I just have one last thing?
unidentified
I promise really quick.
jack posobiec
No, please do.
unidentified
It's a good discussion.
A Tennessean told me today, because somebody's moving to Tennessee from California.
A lot of people in California are moving to Tennessee.
You know what they told me the problem is?
The problem is, like, I've lived in Tennessee for generations.
The problem with Blue Staters, specifically California, is that they've lived under democratic rule for so long, they don't know anything else.
So they come to Tennessee, where we have these neocons trying to strip away gun rights in Tennessee, and you know what the response is from Blue Staters?
It's like, Yeah, but my state was way worse.
At least you guys have it nicer here.
So that's the problem.
seamus coughlin
A California Republican is not the same as a Tennessee Republican.
unidentified
Absolutely not.
Exactly, yeah.
And they're willing not to fight.
seamus coughlin
They don't vote well.
unidentified
Exactly.
They're willing to not vote against because they're like, look, I'm an implant.
I don't want any problems.
I know we've messed up our state, but let's be honest, guys.
This is way better.
Oh, we used to have it worse.
So they're just okay with it.
ian crossland
I like the idea of making people stay in a state for a couple years before they get state voting rights.
jack posobiec
Switzerland does that.
unidentified
I agree with that.
Yeah.
serge du preez
Anyways.
seamus coughlin
All righty.
serge du preez
Callers now.
Sorry everyone.
We don't mean to keep you waiting.
Ikhwani, I don't know if you already live, but I want to let you speak first because you're a Singaporean and... Woo!
jack posobiec
Hey Singapore.
seamus coughlin
How you doing?
unidentified
Hey Ikhwani.
You're unmuted, but I can't hear you.
ian crossland
Give it to me.
Give it to me.
ron coleman
Isn't it really true of so many of us, though?
serge du preez
I can't tell if he's muted.
ian crossland
I'm going to check with you.
Unmuted, but I can't.
jack posobiec
Is there something muted here?
seamus coughlin
Come on.
unidentified
Dude, during the pandemic, I can't.
serge du preez
Just hold on there one moment.
unidentified
Number one soundbite.
You're on mute.
You got to unmute yourself, you know?
ian crossland
Sorry, am I muted?
jack posobiec
Maybe it's because we're speaking English.
ian crossland
Timcaf's in the chat.
serge du preez
Nah, it's just the account.
No, no, no.
seamus coughlin
Wouldn't it be funny if Tim called in, he's like, I just want to say this is the worst show ever.
Like Tim.
unidentified
That is not me.
jack posobiec
Is that Singaporean?
Sounds like Mandarin.
Mandarin.
Is that what they speak in Singapore?
It's one of the languages, yes.
unidentified
Chinese Mandarin
serge du preez
They speak in Singapore?
It's one of the languages So why is this?
unidentified
So yesterday everyone If you want to speak Chinese
seamus coughlin
You have to speak it very Chinese I think it's all fake stuff.
Definitely.
That's not Tim Poole.
jack posobiec
I don't know who he is.
ron coleman
He looks like Jaco Sojic.
unidentified
False things, all of them.
Definitely.
seamus coughlin
Yes.
unidentified
That's not Tim Pool, I don't know who he is.
It's Jack Posojec.
seamus coughlin
It's me!
ron coleman
But he has...
unidentified
Beanie.
ron coleman
El beanie.
unidentified
Yo tengo beanie tambien, por favor.
ian crossland
Cabezo.
Is that his head?
unidentified
Cabezo.
Mi espanol es... So can we take any other colors maybe?
serge du preez
Yeah, let's go.
I think the issue is that the device here is... So yesterday everyone that was watching, we had to switch to this computer in order to do the premiere for the What was it called? Something money? Yeah, game of money.
Game of money. That's correct.
So when that happened, I think maybe we have to switch the device. I can't quite tell.
I'm trying to find that right now. So it's a hardware issue.
Yes. I'm just trying to see if I can. We switch that while we're still live.
Yeah. Yeah, we can. I'm just trying to, I'm trying to figure out where to do that. I'm not,
I don't really use a discord as many of you people know. So I'm just trying to figure it
unidentified
out as we go here. That's for all the base channels. Well, Serge is looking, you mentioned
ian crossland
fight. Anthony, a couple of times you've used the terminology, the fight for the cities.
But how do you mean exactly?
Because I imagine you don't mean go fight, punch, and kick.
unidentified
No, he means street by street.
jack posobiec
Street by street.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
What's an example of fighting for a city?
unidentified
So one thing that I've been doing since 2019... Mostly sending you out there.
One thing that I've been doing since 2019 is we go clean the cities.
So I do community cleanups.
We just did one with the squat presser.
Before that, I had been doing them for several years now.
So you have to actually get into the community.
So the way you fight back is you inform people.
So we make little pamphlets that we hand out to people because everyone's always curious.
Like, who are these 30 young gentlemen or young people that are out cleaning the streets?
Streets that have been, you know, basically abandoned by the politicians.
jack posobiec
Now when you say clean the streets, do you mean like physically clean?
Or do you mean like peaky blinders or, or, you know, taxi driver, you know, some, someday a hard rain's going to come and wash all this filth off the streets.
unidentified
There's a lot of people that have lived there for decades and they're so old that you just can't take care of their homes.
So like we do like, uh, gardening on their stuff, you know?
ian crossland
We got a caller.
Sounded like it.
serge du preez
It's not a caller.
ian crossland
We almost got a caller.
serge du preez
Uh, I'm gonna, Quani, can you, uh, can you speak again and see if, uh, if there's some sort of issue here?
Yeah.
Okay.
I see, I see it's active there.
Can anyone else in the chat here, Quani?
Cause I don't, we cannot hear him at the moment.
ian crossland
Are you in the live chat, by the way?
serge du preez
Ian has just entered the live chat.
ian crossland
I just entered the live chat?
jack posobiec
Yeah, I'm hearing stuff from Discord.
serge du preez
Right.
So the issue, Kwani, is that we cannot hear anything you're saying, so I'm going to try a different caller now.
Can we try another caller real quick?
My apologies.
I'm going to mute you now quickly, and I'm going to try a different caller here.
Give me a moment.
Let's talk to Aquadog Studio.
Aquadog Studio, you are now on the air.
No, same issue.
Uh, I, I don't know what happened here guys, but, uh, yesterday we had the game of money, um, premiere on this computer.
And I wonder if it was, it changed the audio device.
I haven't had time to really look that up since then.
ian crossland
For your discord settings, you go into video and voice.
serge du preez
Yeah.
And I was just on the video.
jack posobiec
There's gotta be, cause I just heard sound effects from discord.
serge du preez
So this input device is the right input device and everything.
Um, I didn't want to do it in this studio, just so you guys are aware.
Yeah.
I didn't want to do that.
Um, but it just was the way that it all worked out.
Uh, they needed to do it last second.
So that's what happened.
Um, I don't know exactly why.
jack posobiec
There's gotta be some setting for like other members then that's separate from the, uh, setting for sound effects.
Cause like when Ian just came in the chat, I heard that.
So that means discord is sending.
serge du preez
Definitely, and I mean, I'm here at the place where it would be to change it.
Like, all of the... technically, this should be working.
I don't understand why it's not feeding through.
ian crossland
Like, the OBS has an audio channel set up.
Discord is set to send to the audio channel that's set up in OBS.
It's right here.
serge du preez
Yep, it's in this voice widget right here.
This is VoxWidget.
Yeah, everything is working as it should be.
ian crossland
When they talk in Discord, do you see it going up and down in OBS?
serge du preez
Uh, no, there's no, the thing about, it's, it's, when they're, when they're speaking in Discord here, I mean, we'll just troubleshoot really fast, I can see their name, if Aqueduct Studio, would you mind saying something quickly for me?
See that green?
Yeah, I see the green.
It's prompting right there, and it's prompting also up here on the actual screen, as you guys can see, but for some reason, it's just not, uh, I mean, I can try and reset the defaults, I guess, but then I'd have to go and do a whole bunch of other things as well.
unidentified
Worst case scenario, we could take some text, Yeah, I guess we could take the text questions if you guys want to.
serge du preez
Yeah, let's do that.
If you guys are in the callers, if you guys want to just type out your questions.
jack posobiec
See if there's anything you can do while they're doing that, because it'd be awesome if we could resurrect this.
serge du preez
Right.
Let's just see if we can go...
jack posobiec
I really liked the calls last time I was here.
It was really cool.
unidentified
Yeah, it's always cool when people call and I love getting their comments, their feedback.
ian crossland
Honestly, talk about community and a way to counteract a global centralized authority attempting to take over the world.
It's with community.
unidentified
Seriously.
ian crossland
And it's with tech like this using it for the right way.
ron coleman
Let me make a social political legal point.
Uh-oh.
seamus coughlin
No.
Actually, I'd rather you didn't.
We'd really rather you didn't.
jack posobiec
We'd really rather you just keep quiet, you know.
seamus coughlin
Do you mind?
You know what?
Push the microphone away.
Push the microphone away.
unidentified
You know, we like this guy.
serge du preez
You know what?
unidentified
I'm not even sure why this guy was allowed to come in today.
You know, we like to have a little party here every once in a while, but, you know, from time to time.
Never mind.
ron coleman
No, no, no, it's okay.
ian crossland
Do you think?
seamus coughlin
No, actually, no, we wanted to hear it.
jack posobiec
No, sorry.
ron coleman
No, no, no, sure, Andy, you really did.
seamus coughlin
No, we really did.
ron coleman
There's a community in New York City Orthodox Jewish community, which is an object lesson in many respects for how you can stay in the city, how you can build institutions, how you can actually flourish in the city.
And the attack on the Orthodox Jewish schools in New York is a multi-pronged attack based on the threat that their success poses Symbolically and otherwise to many, many institutions that are vested in the existing system.
Here's the problem.
Your street-level advocacy, your building of the necessary communal structures, Is difficult to divorce from the very deeply entrenched welfare state.
jack posobiec
Do we want to do a real quick test?
seamus coughlin
He's making a point!
The man's making a point!
serge du preez
Aqueduct Studio, would you mind saying something to see if we can hear you?
unidentified
Hello!
ian crossland
Let's wrap Rob's point really quick.
seamus coughlin
I want to hear the rest of your point because he's going to help us.
ron coleman
The distribution of benefits.
Save America.
The government is so intrusive and so omnipresent in the lives, especially of lower income people, that they will use, they, the existing system, will put the squeeze and also communal leaders We'll put the squeeze on the people they consider to be their constituents.
So what's my point?
Jewish organizations, Orthodox Jewish organizations in New York have been very reluctant, and understandably, because of how the elections always come out no matter what.
Trump took 90% of the Orthodox Jewish vote, including in New York City.
And also, the Republican pickups in the House are largely a result of Orthodox Jewish voting in New York State.
But, at the end of the day, the government structures, the local government structures, are still controlled by Democrats, and that's a really risky strategy, because if your community is perceived as bucking the Democratic leadership, you have a lot to lose.
So that has to be taken into consideration as well.
ian crossland
Yeah, I get it.
jack posobiec
Let's get to these calls, because we've waited a long enough.
serge du preez
So, Aqueduct Studio, what would be your question?
How are you?
unidentified
Hey, what's up guys?
So my question is to Jack Basobic, our Chinese expert here.
We're Chinese?
jack posobiec
Yes.
ron coleman
And what are you an expert in?
jack posobiec
Nothing.
ian crossland
Martial arts?
jack posobiec
Kung Fu actually.
unidentified
The messenger reported that three sources are saying there's an evacuation plan for Taiwan.
And I wanted to know if you think that China sees Taiwan as a target it can take as early as this year?
And a separate question from that would be if you think China invading Taiwan would help or hurt Trump in 2024?
jack posobiec
Yeah, so there's a couple pieces to this.
From what I've been told is that what they're referring to is this evacuation plan for not all of Taiwan, that's for American citizens or AMCETs within Taiwan.
What they're talking about is a NEO, a noncombatant evacuation operation.
These are the type of things that, quite frankly, for various hotspots in the world, the United States Navy, United States embassies, are always tasked with being worked on.
So these logistics, that includes hospitals, that includes embarkation sites.
If you've got a place like, for example, Ukraine would have gone through this in the final days.
That being said, just because they're working on the plan doesn't necessarily mean that there's intel out there that says something like this is imminent.
I particularly don't necessarily say that I think it's imminent because I think Xi Jinping is in a very strong position right now.
He wants to take Taiwan by osmosis through cultural and generational force.
And I've said before a million times, and we have a whole thing called the China files, Which just set up the China files meme that you guys can go and like share It's a little red meme the way Mao had the little red book and it's got a QR code where you can watch them All and so I go really in-depth and there's a whole chapter all just on Taiwan where I said look, you know I think the only thing that would trigger a Taiwan Invasion would be if Xi Jinping were threatened internally within the party, but he just doesn't have internal threats, right?
Not anymore Because well, no not anymore because he didn't there.
serge du preez
They're a Shanghai gang.
unidentified
They've all been disappeared Yes, Shanghai gang, the youth league gang as well.
jack posobiec
And particularly one of their main leaders, Jiang Zemin, has been the old toad.
I mean, he's basically done.
I mean, he's like 96.
It's just, it ain't happening.
It just ain't happening.
So for them to make a push like that, a huge obvious breach, especially when they've been
publicly somewhat, remember, originally they were negative
towards Russia in terms of launching a war of regression into U.S.
Ukraine and then eventually they you know, they sided with Russia, but you know, I don't necessarily think that That China was would be willing to take a step like that unless Xi Jinping were extremely forced that being said if Taiwan were to Declare independence or our push for some kind of military retaking of some of the outlying islands or any number of things a naval Dust-up that turns into another conflagration a trap sub if you will From one of these I disputed islands where a group of activists goes in I mean there are there are many things that could flash this up and I guess to your last question would this help or hurt Trump?
I think it would help Trump Yeah.
unidentified
Right.
jack posobiec
I think it would help Trump because, you know, we've seen that the Biden administration is extremely soft on China.
You know, Biden's willing to say, oh, he's a dictator.
He's this and that.
But at the same time, you know, his son is taking so much money from him.
Anthony Blinken goes over there like a clerk, kowtowing, making these, which by the way, going beyond the typical one China policy, the one China policy, which goes back to the Shanghai communique, Of saying that the United States believes that Taiwan and China, the People's Republic of China, are both part of one entity, which is a very vague kind of status quo statement that every president has gone back on, including Reagan, going all the way back to Carter.
And it starts off with Nixon, of course, going to China.
that now actually saying we do like unequivocally saying we do not support Taiwanese independence
is is beyond the typical one China statement and I think that's there's a reason for that
and the reason is that you know they're being told to say it. True. It's a great question though,
it's a great question. Yeah I agree.
seamus coughlin
Biden's a great diplomat, by the way.
unidentified
I'll just say.
Joe Biden's foreign policy is so good.
seamus coughlin
Do you remember when he basically told us a whole story he made up about the time he called Putin mean?
jack posobiec
Yeah.
unidentified
He's like, I told him, I don't think you have a soul, man.
And he said, we understand each other.
seamus coughlin
I was like, what?
You're the leader of our country and you called a foreign adversary mean?
He wants you to think he's mean!
That means you're intimidated by him, idiot!
ron coleman
I think you're thinking of Steven Seagal.
seamus coughlin
No, no, Joe Biden literally said that.
He said, I said, I don't think you have a soul.
serge du preez
It's Aqueduct Studio.
unidentified
You don't have any hair on your legs.
jack posobiec
Let's finish up.
serge du preez
How do you feel about the answer?
Is there anything else you'd like to add?
unidentified
That was great.
Thank you, Jack.
I bought my pillow because of you.
jack posobiec
So I appreciate that, man.
Thank you.
Seriously.
unidentified
Y'all have a good night.
jack posobiec
You like it?
Do you like it?
unidentified
Oh, man.
Yeah, I love it.
Yeah!
I said something about a MyPillow, like, how can you prove that it's effective?
And you're just like, you just gotta try it.
And I did, man.
jack posobiec
Thank you.
ron coleman
Tanya really does do a good job.
jack posobiec
Wow.
Right under the bus.
After I let you come into the third hour.
unidentified
You let me come in.
seamus coughlin
You were knocking at the door the whole time.
jack posobiec
How do you know a drummer's at your door?
seamus coughlin
How?
jack posobiec
He doesn't know when to come in.
What's the last thing a drummer says in a band?
serge du preez
I've heard that one.
ian crossland
He ain't got that one.
Still, it's rhythm still playing in my head.
jack posobiec
What's the last thing a drummer says in a band?
ian crossland
Hey guys, I wrote a song.
unidentified
There you go.
serge du preez
Wait, wait, wait.
seamus coughlin
If someone just saw the movie Whiplash, I find that offensive.
jack posobiec
That's great.
What do you call a drummer who just broke up with his girlfriend?
Homeless.
unidentified
Oh!
ian crossland
That's brutal!
serge du preez
That is brutal!
ron coleman
Man!
serge du preez
I like that.
ron coleman
Sixty years on this earth, I did not know there was a drummer category of humor.
jack posobiec
Oh yeah.
ron coleman
And I've been in bands!
serge du preez
There's also a bass player, I guess you could say.
It's a little bit less, I guess, Hateful.
Well, there's kind of a kind of an anger towards drummers.
Yeah, I found but anyways, uh, you are now with us again.
You must unmute yourself though.
unidentified
Hey Quani, we've been waiting to hear from you for a while now.
jack posobiec
Can you hear me?
Yes, loud and clear.
unidentified
Being from Singapore, I got so much things I want to talk about guns, but I'll stick true to my question.
So as for the Catholics in the room, what are your view about the current Pope's position about being more LGBTQ friendly?
And how does it affect the Catholics in that regard?
And also, as you guys are generally more in favour of states' rights and decentralisation, does that not also contradict with the centralisation that you see in capitalism?
seamus coughlin
So yeah, there's a few ways to answer that.
I'll give my answer, and then Tim can also let you know how he feels, because I know he's been studying Catholicism a bit recently, but basically... Well, you don't want to hear from the Protestants?
Pope Francis?
No, are you kidding me?
serge du preez
Come on.
They never want to hear from us.
jack posobiec
Are you kidding me?
unidentified
No.
seamus coughlin
I mean, it's like, lines, opinions of sheep.
jack posobiec
They have questions about it.
They're talking about serious churches.
seamus coughlin
I love my Protestant brothers.
jack posobiec
Serious religions.
seamus coughlin
So, here's what I'll say to you.
With Pope Francis, this is an important thing for people to understand.
Papal infallibility does not mean the Pope is correct in every single thing he says.
It means that when the Pope speaks ex cathedra, when he's invoking his authority as Pope to declare on a specific moral question where he literally says that he's basically... Wait, and Seamus, breakdown.
jack posobiec
How many times has that actually happened?
seamus coughlin
There's some debate about that, but it's been very infrequent.
It's been very infrequent.
I can't give you an exact number because there is debate on it, but it very, very, very rarely happens.
jack posobiec
It's like a dozen times.
seamus coughlin
Yes, exactly.
Most popes never speak ex cathedra.
jack posobiec
It's extremely rare.
ian crossland
Oh, so they're giving their personal opinions, and then they'll tell you if they're going to come out and speak.
seamus coughlin
Exactly, yes, exactly.
So when the pope speaks he's unless the qualifications for ex cathedra are
mentioned which I sort of spelled out you know invoking his Authority is successor of Peter like declaring it with that
authority And it's it's it's one of these moral questions right and I
would encourage everyone to just double check on all this the um
You know it's actually a lot before from the chair from the chair exactly yeah
So the vast majority of times when the Pope speaks, like 99.9% of the time, he's just giving you his personal opinion.
And it doesn't reflect any change in church teaching.
And I'll also mention this, the question of sodomy and whether that's moral is not something that any Pope has the authority to change.
This is part of natural law.
This is literally built into nature.
A Pope could not come along and say, we've changed church teaching on this.
jack posobiec
Go to, but I think the deeper question there is this, this comes to Francis's embrace of synodism, synod, these synods, where, you know, it's where it's, it's, it's, it's the Hegelian thing again, right?
We're gonna go dialogue. We're gonna bring a dialectic together. We're gonna remove the
the the hierarchical view we're gonna remove the historical view traditional view the legalistic view the
doctrinal view of the church and instead just you know, bring a bunch of people, you know, just
unidentified
You know kind of bring a couple of people together the Vatican a little bit of a party
seamus coughlin
Shakes out, you know cuz I I just got some I I wanted to double check on this.
I got a more precise delineation of the qualifications for an ex cathedra statement from EWTN here.
One, intends to teach.
Two, by virtue of his supreme authority.
Three, on a matter of faith and morals.
And four, to the whole church.
ian crossland
Does he need to get like cardinal approval to speak for the church or they have that vested in him?
seamus coughlin
No, no, that's him.
jack posobiec
He has that approval.
He has that approval through his election.
serge du preez
If he was elected by the cardinals, then he would be speaking to them.
jack posobiec
So technically, yes.
ian crossland
But it could come to a point where a pope was not well, mentally well, and would not step down.
And it's like, we just can't take anything this guy's saying seriously.
seamus coughlin
There was a pope who was mentally unwell.
He actually dug up a prior pope and put him on trial.
serge du preez
Yeah, that was a fun one.
seamus coughlin
He exhumed his body and put him on trial.
serge du preez
What do you have to say about that one, guys?
seamus coughlin
Well, like I said, not everything the Pope does is infallible.
Popes are sinners.
I mean, what do I say about the fact that Peter denied Christ three times?
unidentified
But I've talked to a lot of Catholics that take everything he says as undeniable truth, and that's kind of like why I...
Catholics that I've talked to.
seamus coughlin
Maybe in LA, yeah, I could see that.
serge du preez
Whoa, jeez!
So much anger!
seamus coughlin
No, no, I'm actually, I'm not being mean.
I'm not being mean.
I'm actually, I'm not trying to be mean.
I'm saying, I agree with you.
That probably is the case.
I don't, I don't doubt that.
Like I'm, I'm with a lot of traditional Catholics who are like, why is he saying this stuff?
But I actually do believe that in more liberal parts of the country, there are Catholics who go, look at this.
It's a statement we have to believe when it's just his opinion.
But please continue.
unidentified
No, no, no.
That was just it.
Like, like you're saying that like, not everything is taken, you know, whatever.
But I'm like, dude, I know some Catholics that are like, I post it sometimes on my stories, like something that the Pope does or something that he says or whatever, and then the Catholics come after me and they're like, oh dude, don't question the descendant of Peter, like he disguised the Pope.
And I'm like, I just think it was a wrong opinion.
jack posobiec
That's a big sentiment within the Church.
seamus coughlin
Those Catholics are wrong.
jack posobiec
I guess the answer to the other question, by the way, that Kwanye was asking about states' rights versus hierarchicalism within the church is, you know, obviously we're talking about a political system of government within the United States tradition of, obviously we're still operating under the Constitution and arguably Uh, we can argue we can debate about how much we actually use the constitution anymore So we're we're operating with that versus a religious Tradition in a church that catholics believe was founded by jesus christ.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, and and also mention this the the church is so I actually believe in decentralization for the same reason that I'm Catholic, actually.
There's a principle called subsidiarity, and you see this in the structure of the church.
Basically, if something can be handled by the most local possible authority, it should be handled by the most local possible authority.
You're only supposed to go up that chain of command if you found a problem that you literally could not solve at the local level.
I'm not saying that never happens.
I'm saying it's never abused.
jack posobiec
The Pope is giving orders all the time.
ron coleman
When the church was most influential in world affairs, there was a French church, there was an English church, there was a Spanish church, and they were very different, and they were understood to be different, and their relationship with their respective states was very different.
So in Spain it was extraordinarily well integrated.
jack posobiec
In Spain, obviously, right.
ron coleman
And in England they were anti-papist well before Henry VIII.
unidentified
England went a little bit of a different direction.
Henry VIII was a problem child.
Some say that King James was the first one of those.
ian crossland
They call that a...
seamus coughlin
Yeah, sorry.
Continue with what you were saying.
ron coleman
The investiture controversy.
No, but just my understanding as a student of history, not obviously as someone with
a Catholic education, but is that, as Jack says, there has always been an understanding
that prelates of different parts of the world had a responsibility to be appropriately sympathetic
and appropriately culturally tied into what makes sense for that place, but also what
the relationship is with other institutions and other cultural phenomena and social phenomena.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, and so to be clear, like, the fundamental moral teachings are still the same there.
It's not like in the Spanish Catholic Church now adultery was okay or something.
I mean, in Italy, I'm sure they push for that, right?
Overall, you're right, when it came to the cultural customs, when it came to what do we enforce here, it did vary based on the country we're in.
jack posobiec
Of course we just mean for now, because eventually.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, no, once we take over.
Dude, I don't know, the Catholic Church has trouble running the Catholic Church.
I don't want it to run.
jack posobiec
I was just thinking, if the head is pointing in one direction, would the body not also follow the head?
seamus coughlin
Because Christ runs our church, friend.
jack posobiec
It is.
ron coleman
Get Constantinople back, Constantinople back again, and then I'll be impressed.
I cry every time.
jack posobiec
I cry every single time.
World War I was so close, man.
We were so close.
A couple weeks away.
unidentified
Anything else to say?
jack posobiec
Freaking Germans, man.
unidentified
I was just thinking, like, if the head is pointing in one direction, would the body
not also follow the head?
And in that sense, I guess if we all feel that the Pope is, believes in something that's
in contradiction to the doctrine, would there not be a process that you can, I don't know
what's the equivalent of impeachment of the Pope, to get him off the position?
seamus coughlin
So this is also important, when you're saying the Pope believes something that's in conflict with church teaching, you have to point to something specific there, and this is something I encourage people to be very careful about.
I think the Pope has said certain things that could be argued to be on the border of that, but as far as I'm aware, the Pope has not openly said anything that actually expressly contradicts church teaching, except for one statement that he made about God willing all religions, which they ended up actually walking back.
jack posobiec
So, a lot of times they play games, they say like, well, they talk about the translations,
seamus coughlin
and they get liberal, and yeah, stuff like that.
So this is one area where I'll say, I'll give you an example of this, right?
So when Pope Francis first came to his position, I was seeing all these news articles.
Catholic Church no longer believes in hell.
The Catholic Church has stopped teaching about hell.
unidentified
What?
seamus coughlin
That's literally not possible.
The church actually can't do that.
And so, I look into it.
What happened?
Pope Francis, while on, you know, an airplane or something, being asked a question by a journalist, said that he doesn't think hell is a literal place.
He just thinks it's a state of the soul.
Now, that is not something Catholics are required to believe, because he wasn't making an ex-Catholic statement, but that's also something Catholics have been allowed to believe, historically, and It didn't affect church teaching at all, and he also wasn't saying hell doesn't exist.
So you have to be careful, because the media will take his statements and turn them into something completely different than what he ever said.
This is a pope who's called gender theory demonic, who's called abortionists hit men.
I mean, he's more conservative than people think, though there are things he says which, once again, really concern me.
jack posobiec
Kwani, I really appreciate the question.
I mean, we could do an entire other episode on this.
serge du preez
Yeah, you get these Catholics talking and they'll just keep going.
ron coleman
And the Latin version of this discussion is going to be really amazing.
unidentified
Yeah, the Latin version of this discussion is available on AudioBury2.
ian crossland
Thanks, Quani.
jack posobiec
I really appreciate it.
serge du preez
Thank you, Quani.
jack posobiec
Let's go to the next one here.
unidentified
Shout out to Hannah Clare for a good job on the Culture Wars she did yesterday, of course.
jack posobiec
I agree.
Yeah, that was great.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, she's great.
She's great.
unidentified
That Chinese sounds a bit funny, to be honest.
serge du preez
It sounds very Chinese.
jack posobiec
Maybe a little Polish.
serge du preez
Maybe.
It sounds like you're from China, Chinese.
Which, you lived in China a long time, that makes sense.
jack posobiec
A couple years, yeah.
serge du preez
Anyways.
Cheers, my friend.
We're on to Noah Sanders.
Noah Sanders, how are you?
unidentified
Hey, howdy.
Glad to be back.
Hey, man.
serge du preez
Good to hear you, too.
alex jones
How are you?
unidentified
So, my question was originally for Jack, but it's of course open to the whole panel.
Which do y'all think is more important role for young people, probably around 30 or younger, to fulfill?
One, someone like yourself, Jack, who reports on the news, current events, and trending topics.
ron coleman
That doesn't really have a job.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, yeah.
unidentified
Pressler type, who goes out to help activate voters in different areas and inform people on the streets.
Or three, someone to run for public offices of all levels in their district.
All seem important to secure bright future for our country, But which should be the most pursued in your guys opinion?
jack posobiec
I mean, I Think God gives people different talents. Yeah. Yeah
I think that's the right answer is that you know There are certain people who have that drive that just want
to travel and be on the road like Scott and just be out there
pounding the pavement there are other people who have You know that have different talents for whether it be
communicating sharing information there are other people who just begged in to of their their
Where they were born when they were born the family they were born to etc different talents where it be it is
easier for them to run for office based on where they are based on the
Whatever political denomination that you're you're dealing with the demographics the area etc, etc. The million
different factors I think God puts you where you need to be, put it that way.
And, you know, I think that you couldn't really put someone, you know, in there.
That being said, you know, I see which is more important.
I think we need them all right now.
ron coleman
No, I think that what's really important is that people like you and people like us ask that question.
Because, as Jack is saying, you have to ask yourself, am I taking the talents that I have and using them to make a difference?
Or at least making the effort to make a difference.
I mean, you can't always make a difference, but sometimes the effort is a very large part of what your contribution has to be.
unidentified
I think for my... Well, I would say... Oh, go ahead.
Go ahead.
Well, the reason I'm asking is because I'm a young man myself, 28 years old, currently doing plumbing, traveling across the country doing that, but I feel like I'm being pulled to do something of greater value, including possibly still enlisting in the military at my advanced age.
But it's just trying to figure out what pathway would be the most effective and most beneficial, not only to myself, but to my community and my country.
ron coleman
Strike off running for office.
That's an easy one.
I would actually tell you that as a person who's not young and not a plumber, that even if I were appointed, I can think of almost nothing worse spiritually for a person than going through the process of trying to become elected To any sub- like any kind of national office. I think it's
just absolutely soul-murdering But if you up if you were to tell me that I could be
appointed and not only to Congress but the United States Senate
I still don't even know if I would take it. It is such an ugly
unidentified
Hopeless system, you know, it'd be actually I would do it and just get a lot of money
You know what? I would be cool though But he's already a plumber!
jack posobiec
No, no, no, let me throw this out there, because obviously, look, obviously you, look, you're here on Discord, you're talking to us, you clearly have an interest in podcasts, you know, why not start, like, the plumbing channel, like, become, like, the plumbing guy?
You're doing a podcast, you're on the road, you're talking about stuff, you're talking about the people you meet, maybe you're not given the perfect, you know, like, Yeah, I bet if you got a scope camera and then every once in a while you work in like, oh, this was in their drain and the code in this area is bad.
And that's why we need something like this.
ian crossland
You could literally put a camera on a, on a scope, like a snake and show people what's coming out of it.
seamus coughlin
No, I actually, I agree with you because you have so many influencers who will talk about the glamour of their useless job.
I think it would be very interesting to have somebody who's doing something really useful show people how it's done and show people what the lifestyle is like, especially because you're traveling, dude.
You're going across the country.
ron coleman
He never said he likes being a plumber, though.
jack posobiec
My brother's a woodworker and he does this all the time.
He'll post, uh, you know, he's a worker and he does other stuff.
Um, and you know, he'll post, uh, videos from job sites talking about what he's doing and then he'll work in like something else that's going on.
serge du preez
But he's, he's a really popular Australian, uh, guy who actually just mows lawns.
I don't know if you guys have seen him.
I've seen this.
Yeah.
He mows lawns for free.
Yeah.
And then he gets all the revenue via YouTube, et cetera, and people that are giving him money.
But, you know, that's always something to try.
Again, like, I don't know how I would do it about plumbing.
I'm not sure if that would be as easy to film.
unidentified
Well, that's actually something that I was looking to do with my pressure washing company that I own back in Georgia.
Oh, yeah.
serge du preez
I've seen that as well.
I've seen a lot of that.
unidentified
So cool.
...communities that could use having their, you know, having their property value brought up just a little bit just to look nicer.
I mean, even if it doesn't do anything for them, it makes them feel better that they're living in a clean home instead of, you know, some place that's got mold on the outside and uh bacteria growing on the roof and everything like that but as far as uh as far as all that goes it's all great but uh i really do think that we need people um with good hearts and uh good ideas on policies to run for office even though it is a soul crushing and you're absolutely you're right because at the end of the day we do need we need those seats to be filled with our guys
Yeah.
But the one thing I would say to you, man, is, uh, you know, I was in nursing school, uh, myself when I left the military, I still wanted to be, you know, civil servant to people and help out my community.
I talked to one of my cousins.
She's like, look in California, if you become a nurse, you can afford to live out here.
Um, and so I went to nursing school and it was there that I kind of developed this passion for politics.
Cause I was talking to a bunch of college age students, a lot of them, Bernie Sanders, socialists, et cetera.
And I got involved into politics and you know, you're talking about which is the most important, First and foremost, man, I don't know if you're a man of God or if you have faith or what your faith is and beliefs.
First, talk it over with the big man.
You gotta kneel down and you gotta say, God, what is your purpose for me?
And what I will say is, even at the local level, brother, your school board, Your city supervisors, your board of supervisors, your city council is going to make a bigger impact on your day-to-day life and of your children and of your, I don't know if you have kids or if you're married, but either way, even if you're planning on it, these people will have a bigger impact on your community and your day-to-day life than a president potentially could.
And that's kind of like the hope that I give to Californians.
It's like, look, I live in one of the most conservative areas in my area.
In California, believe it or not, the city that I live in, I'm not going to mention it, but it's one of the safest cities in the entire nation.
And it's in Los Angeles County, but of course people focus on the negative.
But you have talents, you have things.
What I would recommend, something that we do at the local level in Los Angeles, is we have meetups for young Republicans.
You're 28, I'm 35, Young Republicans is an organization from 18 to 40.
Every once in a while, we will have a meetup and you talk about what you do and if other people might be interested in your services.
Brother, let me tell you, man, it's one of the best ways to network because people are actively seeking, well, especially now with the parallel economy, If you don't already list your business on Public Square, this is not a paid ad or anything like that, and more conservatives will find you.
And so if you're looking to get involved politically, at the very least you can do it hyper-local and be like, how can I help one school board member be from Democrat to Republican?
And how can I do that as a plumber?
Is it donating?
Is it volunteering for that campaign?
And I'm telling you, we have community cleanups in Los Angeles, and we have gardeners that come to the Republican meetups and they're like, hey, I know how to mow lawns.
Can we just mow someone's lawn in the community?
I'm like, yeah, absolutely.
And someone's like, oh, well, I'm a painter.
Take it local.
Yeah, exactly.
Take it local, and people are going to notice, man, and you're going to make political change.
Like, when we do cleanups, people are impressed that it's young Republicans making the change.
Like, wait a minute, I was always told that conservatives didn't care about the environment, and here you guys are, you know?
Dude, we've talked to Thousands of people.
They're blown away.
I've had people, because we've been doing these cleanups for years, I've had people fly in from Colorado and they're Democrats.
And I'm like, bro, we're just here to clean up.
I made a weekend out of it with my wife.
We wanted to see the Hollywood star, all this stuff.
So you'd be very surprised, man.
Plumbing, it might not be tied into politics per se, but there's a way that you can use the talents God has already given you.
to help politically, whether it's donating, volunteering, or like,
hey guys, I'm a conservative plumber. Are you tired of companies, like woke companies that give
to political parties? I'm a conservative. You want to help me out? And brother, I'm telling you,
man, the need is out there. I guarantee you God is going to use you and your talents for something.
serge du preez
All right. Well, anything else to add, my friend?
unidentified
Well, just one thing.
serge du preez
Just quickly, yeah, try not to get them talking, because they'll just take off.
unidentified
You need to go on Shamer with Shamer, and you'll need to have a good conversation with, uh, about, uh, Christianity.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, go on Shamer!
Anyone, any of y'all!
ian crossland
He said me, I should.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, all of you, any of you!
ian crossland
Come on my show!
seamus coughlin
Bro, listen, I'm gonna try to set up like a live thing with you on my podcast this week or next week.
ian crossland
Let's do it.
seamus coughlin
Jack and I were talking about maybe baptizing you.
jack posobiec
We're gonna force baptize you.
serge du preez
Alright, well, thank you Noah.
I'll talk to you soon.
Everyone that's haggling me about how much time it's taking, I understand.
ian crossland
We're going late tonight.
What's happening?
unidentified
You aren't even the one suffering.
serge du preez
Bless yourself, brother.
You guys should all be thanking Kellen, who's the real sufferer, who's gonna really suffer.
It's not you guys.
ian crossland
He's gonna be editing like a beast tonight.
serge du preez
Sammy Football, you are now live.
What's going on?
unidentified
Hey, so a lot of my question, my question actually is for Anthony, and he kind of answered a lot of it in the last one, so I'll make it quick.
Okay.
I'm big into local politics in Florida.
I actually ran a campaign, grassroots, and got one of my clients elected against an incumbent to the school board, and she actually didn't receive the governor's endorsement, but we did it, and we got, you know, conservative majority.
So, and I did it all while reading my Bible.
So, shout out to that.
So, that's good.
Good stuff right there.
I don't know what I'm doing, but I just let my Bible lead me on that one.
jack posobiec
But you were only reading your Bible, and that's the point I was making earlier.
unidentified
Yeah.
But I got to see firsthand how dirty politics gets here in Florida.
So it's kind of like a two-part question, but you answered one of them already.
One of them is, have you ever thought that Florida politics is eaten up with fake GOP writing for the Democrats?
The example is John Rutherford today.
He was a former sheriff for Duval County and he actually voted present in the shift vote today and also I've been huge and I've been you know we have we see all the moms and everything showing up to school board meetings and I've been begging dads and men even if you're not a dad just men to show up to school board meetings because it that's when change happens because that's when they notice that people are upset.
So what is What is your advice on this?
What would you say to the men?
A lot of times I hear, oh, well, I have grandkids, or oh, I don't have kids.
What is your advice to men about getting behind these movements?
Well, first and foremost, as a Christian man, I think it's the duty of every man.
It doesn't matter if you have kids, if this is not your fight.
I don't believe in being disengaged from anything.
So one of the things that made the Armenian parents go so viral is the fact that there were so many men there present and that's what I love about the Armenian community is so many men.
I've never seen this in the Hispanic community.
I've never seen this anywhere else where so many men show up.
So to all the men out there, you know, I know that like the manosphere and there's like a lot of things that men talk about why it's woman's fault and OnlyFans this and that.
I get a lot of heat for this.
I think Almost every single problem in America is a fault of men, because we've just been so disengaged.
We've allowed it to happen.
If you want all the events to stop existing, then stop signing up for it.
You know what I'm saying?
And it's our role to lead.
And if you're a Christian man, you truly must believe this, that it is your role Uh, to lead, uh, not just your family, but my community.
You know, I was reading Philippians today, um, and it was talking about that, like, be selfless.
You have to live in the service of others.
And so I, I really despise when, oh, well I homeschool my parents.
I don't care about this fight.
This isn't my fight.
This is not, what's that?
serge du preez
Homeschool my children.
Homeschool your children.
unidentified
Parents say they homeschool.
Yeah.
Homeschool my children.
But so what we have, what we have.
Yeah.
Homeschool your parents.
So my answer would be men have to be involved.
You have to lead.
It can't just be the woman.
And I'm telling you, we've done a thing with my statistics.
I have 155,000 on Instagram.
90% of my support comes from women because They don't see any other man standing up in Los Angeles that's just, you know, heeding the call.
And so to other men, I'm like, dude, you have to show up.
Oh, well, I work.
I'm like, dude, everyone works.
Communists work too.
And they still show up.
seamus coughlin
Communists don't work.
Hold on a second.
jack posobiec
That is their job when you see them out there like that.
unidentified
I covered the riots of 2020.
I'm telling you, these moms, these dads out there, I'm like, what do you do?
And I go, I'm a college professor.
And I'm like, and you came right after work.
Like, oh, as soon as I got off of work, I had my clothes already.
I came to protest.
And they stay there till midnight.
And they're like, all right, tomorrow I'm going to wake up, take a shower.
And I'm going to go right back to being a college professor.
These people work.
It's one of the biggest scams that the left doesn't work.
They absolutely do.
And they actually work two, three times harder than conservatives.
That's just a fact.
I'm sorry.
And the second question to you, when you were saying that, if state parties sometimes, absolutely, state parties love losing.
The reason is because they can fundraise off of the losing.
They play off the emotions that people are angry and they've lost.
So unfortunately, you have a lot of neocons.
jack posobiec
I would certainly agree with this.
As a guy from the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, I've seen it a million times.
unidentified
Oh, absolutely.
I mean, it's just, you're going to see this in any state.
And again, it's great that you're from Florida because there's a lot of people that look at Florida and like, oh, what a beacon of hope.
And sure, in many different ways, but I can't tell you how many Floridians are absolutely pissed that their cost of living has gone up.
I have people that were renting apartments.
They had to give up their apartments because like, I can't afford to live here anymore.
And Ron DeSantis isn't doing anything.
You know, like no one's taking care of the natives because we have so many implants.
And again, the line of reasoning from the implants is like, well, sure, rent has gone up, but at least it's not as bad as California.
Those were high prices.
At least your gas is cheap.
And so I feel for a lot of native Floridians who are not being heard.
And, you know, there was a lot of seats in Florida that got flipped blue, including mayoral races, because they weren't being heard.
They weren't being heard by the state party.
The only thing I can tell you is you gotta keep chipping away at it.
Thank you for everything that you do.
Kudos on you.
And sometimes, I know it's hard to keep pressing at it, but man, sometimes when you're doing a lot of the work, it does feel like you're alone.
All I can do is encourage you.
It's definitely been rough, but it's been rewarding.
But it's definitely something I would love to, a conversation I would love to continue with you offline because I know we're strapped for time.
But I would love to find you on Twitter and talk to you more about it because I have a few more pieces to that puzzle I'd like to expand.
Thank you guys so much.
jack posobiec
Appreciate it.
ian crossland
Keep it up.
jack posobiec
Thank you for the call.
So let's go.
I think we got our last caller of the night.
serge du preez
We're in the last one for Stock Gamer and yeah, gas was like $7.95 in Hollywood when I left there.
It was $7.85 I think when I left.
jack posobiec
I didn't even look when I was there the other day.
serge du preez
Yeah, it was when I left in October.
It was like $7.85.
jack posobiec
I was literally in Hollywood.
serge du preez
Yeah, I lived in Hollywood, so it was like right over the hill on the pass.
ian crossland
It was 785.
Was that 87?
Grade 87 grade?
unidentified
Or was it 97?
serge du preez
87, 87, yeah.
jack posobiec
What's up with this 88 grade?
serge du preez
I don't know.
jack posobiec
Can we actually use that at the ethanol store?
serge du preez
You can, yes, you can.
jack posobiec
I don't know.
serge du preez
But what's up, Stock Gamer?
How are you?
unidentified
What's up, guys?
Hey, can you hear me?
jack posobiec
Yep, loud and clear.
unidentified
5x5.
Anthony, Anthony, you know who this is?
Um, I do not know.
It's your favorite Jewish homie from LA.
Hey Raz, what's up, man?
jack posobiec
I was gonna be like, Anthony, it's your stalker.
unidentified
I'm outside your house right now.
It sounded familiar, but I'm just like, it could be anyone at this point.
jack posobiec
No, this is, I'll be in your hotel later tonight.
unidentified
What's up, brother?
jack posobiec
Sorry, I'm talking.
unidentified
What's up, what's up?
So my question is for Anthony, and it's a question that, you know, I love asking him every day, but what will it take for you to leave California?
Nah man, I'm there for life.
Trying to get rid of him, huh?
No, he used to live in California.
I'm one of the people that he hates.
jack posobiec
What's it take for you to leave?
Open warrants.
ron coleman
San Andreas fault.
When I was talking, we were talking... California left me!
unidentified
What was the plumber's name?
Noah, right?
I think.
Noah Sanders.
So Noah, so, you know, it's one of those things where like, you know... The other guy's name was Noah.
jack posobiec
The plumber was Noah, not this guy.
unidentified
Right.
Oh, I think so, yeah.
But, you know, one of those things is...
You have to pray about it.
I keep praying to God.
I'm like, look, I have a three, I have a three bedroom home.
I have a family of five.
My entire family's in California.
We love where we live.
It's a very conservative area.
We have a lot of sheriffs, you know, a lot of, it's not, we don't see like the homeless.
It's not a problem in our area.
This is not.
My, my thing is, I'm not totally against leaving California, but it has to get that bad.
But look, my children are getting baptized despite the indoctrination.
I think, if anything, the persecution is making us stronger Christians.
And there's this video of a Christian pastor that went to go visit Christians that were imprisoned in China and other countries where Christianity is illegal.
And the prisoners would say, you know, oh, you know, pray for me to be as strong as you guys in America.
And like pray for us to like be able to be like Americans.
Pray for our country to have... And the pastor was just like, you know what?
I actually pray that Christians in America would be more like you.
And here's why.
Because for your faith, you're willing to go to jail.
And you could be running away.
You could be like everyone else and just run away, but you're choosing to stay here and spread the gospel through persecution.
I mean, again, I was reading Philippians today.
The Apostle Paul was talking about, my brothers, I'm in prison, but glorify that the entire prison is now listening to the gospel of Jesus Christ because they know that I'm being wrongfully persecuted.
So it's not that I'm trying to liken myself to any apostle or anything like that, but there is power in persecution.
And Christ talks about this.
We're going to be persecuted for our beliefs.
So to me, I find solace that there's a lot of Californians that don't, they can't leave.
There's people that can, they will, you know, but there's a lot of people that can't.
The single moms out there that are on that welfare system, they can't leave.
You know how many people like, and this has been told to me by Republicans that said like, dude, we can't compete with the healthcare in California.
We don't have better deals with them.
They just have really good healthcare out there.
You know, and there's a lot of moms that are like, I can't afford health care if I were to ever leave.
So I think about my community, Hispanic, Latinos that are first born immigrants that don't have that opportunity.
And it's nice to have someone like myself and others.
I'm not the only one.
There's a lot of fighters out there, a lot of good people that are fighting the good fight, people that do way more than me.
And they're like hearing the subject of change can happen.
And we need to stay in fight.
And if enough of us collectively, even if, you know, people tell me like, Oh, what do you think Trump or Biden in California for 2024?
You think we can flip it for Trump?
I'm like, I'm not worried about Trump or Biden.
You know what I'm worried about?
Can we flip this school district right here?
Can we flip this board of supervisors?
So it's a majority conservative.
If you focus on the hyperlocal, I promise you, man, like you're going to start seeing change.
But there's like an old saying that goes, if you're willing to do good, you have to be a man prepared to not sit in the shade of the tree of which you planted the seed of.
I think I'm butchering it, but it's basically saying, if you're fighting for good, it's a lifelong fight, and you might die and not see... The shade of the tree.
serge du preez
Yeah, exactly.
unidentified
Yeah, exactly.
Raz, I love you, bro.
You're out there doing good things.
jack posobiec
I see you and your family.
unidentified
You're a king, bro.
But to me, it's just I'm planting my banner.
And I think that there is hope for California.
God has not abandoned it.
And I think that if we start thinking more like this, if we start tweeting out more, plant your banner and fight.
And if we can get And Jack, that's why I love you, brother, because you were the only one, man, that actually showed up to those.
And that, you have no idea what you did for everybody that is in California, man.
The fact that you were the only one that came out.
jack posobiec
There's a lot of people out there.
unidentified
I didn't want to single out Seamus.
I'm kidding, kidding.
jack posobiec
But yeah, like you said, some people just, you know, they're just suited for podcasting.
unidentified
Yeah.
ron coleman
No, but Harvey Zillen is staying in California, dating every day.
unidentified
Yeah.
And that's the thing is people need that hope, man.
People need hope.
Imagine being like a conservative or Christian and all your thought leaders are saying, get the hell out.
There's no hope.
But then in comes like those few people saying like, no, no, no, no.
We're going to change this for God.
We're going to change California because we care about the people that can't make a difference.
The people that can't leave.
Those are the people that we're fighting for.
Because again, Christ caused us to be selfless.
It's not just about my wife and my children.
My wife and my children are fine.
They're happy.
Dude, we survived the pandemic.
No jabs.
God's got us.
It came to the point where it was a single income in my home.
We went from a three income household to just me.
And I had to go into a little bit of debt, but we never ever wavered from the faith in God.
And he got us, man.
So to me, it's like, God, you still have me here for a reason.
And if he ever calls me anywhere else.
ron coleman
We should discuss that on my podcast sometime, Jack.
unidentified
We should.
I'll be on tomorrow then.
jack posobiec
We actually have a little bit of breaking news, and I want to say thank you again for the call, which may have happened during the show tonight.
I guess we'll have to see if Tim Prime is able to get to this tomorrow.
If not, maybe Tim 3.0, 4.0, 5.0 will be here.
Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg may be holding a cage match.
serge du preez
Zuck is actually jiu-jitsu.
unidentified
I saw that.
jack posobiec
He just went around.
Yeah, so Elon said, I'm up for a cage match if he is.
And then on Twitter, and then Zuck responded on Instagram, send me location.
Oh, this is hot.
ron coleman
As if Facebook doesn't always know where everyone's at.
jack posobiec
And then Elon Musk responded, because somebody tweeted that at him.
He goes, if this is for real, I will do it.
serge du preez
Wow.
ian crossland
Dude, suck it with the arm bar.
I'm calling it.
Three minutes.
jack posobiec
I don't know, but he's got the cybernetic elbow.
ron coleman
All I know is that this is going to keep a lot of lawyers busy.
jack posobiec
I'm so excited.
Who wins?
The lawyers.
Ladies and gentlemen, that is, that concludes the Timcast member segment.
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ian crossland
Thank you so much, Jack.
serge du preez
Shots out, Chris Burtman.
There you go, man.
ian crossland
Always.
serge du preez
Cheers.
alex jones
Hi.
unidentified
Hi there!
We're going to have a customer presentation tomorrow.
Yes!
How do we deal with transport now that we don't have our own cars anymore?
You can just hire.
ron coleman
You can just hire?
unidentified
Then they get access to hundreds of cars, while the company cuts costs.
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