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tim pool
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So, in Florida, they canceled a pride parade because the government made it illegal to have sex shows for children, and a bunch of Democrats are like, this is an outrage!
An outrage, I say!
So, like, there's the story, I mean, this literally happened.
Ron DeSantis was like, it's now illegal to have sex shows for kids, and they went, oh, I guess we gotta cancel pride parades now!
phil labonte
Woodchipper go burr.
tim pool
What the fuck were they planning on showing kids?
unidentified
Yeah, true that.
tim pool
Yeah, so I did a video a while back saying, like, basically these people are just... they have to be pedophiles.
Like, this journalist was defending pedophiles.
I make a video criticizing pedophiles.
They make a- they make a- write an article accusing me of being anti-LGBTQ, and I'm like, the fuck are you talking about?
So you're saying that when I say pedophiles are bad, it's an attack on the LGBTQ community?
So you're basically saying pedophiles are LGBTQ?
lucas botkin
Yeah, they're affiliating.
tim pool
And I can only say if they're defending pedos, they must be one.
phil labonte
Remember guys, if saying that you should leave kids alone is an attack on a certain community, that certain community deserves to be attacked.
Like, if saying leave kids alone is beyond the pale, then the problem is not you telling people to leave kids alone.
The problem is the people saying, hey, you're telling me that I can't express myself.
unidentified
Right.
hannah claire brimelow
Sorry, you go.
lucas botkin
Oh, this is something that I talked about a few years ago, and I kind of was like, all right, so you got the LGBT community, which is now LGBT, and now they're adding stuff.
If they want to do their own thing, and have their own rights, and do things to each other, all right, I understand that, but it's kind of on them to police their own.
unidentified
Yes.
lucas botkin
Just like in the gun community, I say a lot of things that pisses people off because I try to, you know, say the truth and people don't like hearing the truth very often.
So when there's a bad firearms instructor out there or a bro vet, you know, veteran who says that civilians should own guns, I call that person out.
And I expect the gun community to police their own a little bit.
But I also expect the LGB.
Community to police their own as well, and and I had people like oh no like no It's not just us that are you know like pedophiles or whatever and I'm like I understand that but you need to like Keep those people out then otherwise you will be to some extent guilty by association.
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hannah claire brimelow
People who are identified with this community who are like, no, please stop.
We did not get a committee together and vote on this being allowed as some sort of sexual orientation.
But instead it's like, well, we just have to push for these broader and broader boundaries and make everything more ambiguous and dangerous under this guise of like, if you don't, you're not tolerant, you're not accepting.
And that must be terrible to have your identity hijacked like that.
phil labonte
The problem is in the theoretical papers in queer theory, Like, pedophilia is part of queer theory.
They make exception for it.
They say that no one is actually innocent and that it is bad to prevent children from being exposed to sexuality and stuff.
There is not a There is not a significant argument against it, according to the queer theorists.
They say that there is no legitimate argument against it.
They talk about things like, Judith Butler talks about things like intergenerational relationships, which is just, you know, another way of saying, you know, relationships from adults to children.
It's part of the queer theory.
And so it doesn't go away.
The LGBT community may not be able to get rid of it.
Because it's written into their philosophy and their thought process.
hannah claire brimelow
Like they said, identity hijacked.
tim pool
Yeah, it was supposed to be love is love, right?
And then like, just as long as I've always known about it as a kid, I've known that's not true.
I mean, it pissed me off as a kid, because they were like, it's about love.
And then I'd be like, then why is there a mannequin giving a blowjob in the window of that store?
But that's really what they were doing.
So on North Halstead, where my family owned a coffee shop, there's a clothing store, and the mannequin's blowing the other mannequin.
Like, their mannequins are anatomically correct, and they're all having sex with each other.
That's not about love.
And there's a bathhouse right there too.
That's new though.
I wasn't there when I was, when my family owned the business.
And it's literally, everybody knows what goes on in there.
You know what goes on in the bathhouse?
They're doing cocaine poppers and they're having sex with each other and they're giving them, they're all getting a bunch of STDs.
And it's, everybody knows.
lucas botkin
I just, it's, it's crazy to me that this shit's- I also don't feel like people know what love is anymore.
Yeah.
I mean, this even goes back to the conversation earlier.
I mean, I think a lot of people just don't understand relationships for husbands and wives.
I mean, I get crap for the relationship I have with my wife, where we're both very independent.
She works.
I work.
We both do a lot of stuff together and I help her with things.
She helps me with stuff.
And people are like, no, that's wrong.
She can't be independent and have her own life.
And she's supposed to, you know, gender roles and all that.
And I'm like, no, I married someone like her on purpose.
This is the kind of woman I wanted.
Cause I want us to both build each other up.
Like this isn't some weird power structure like relationship.
Like, yeah, I'm the head, but like we can have a respectful relationship with each other.
And I just feel like a lot of people don't understand love, especially if they're, you know, the whole love is love thing.
I'm like, do they really know what they're talking about?
tim pool
Snapchat had a sticker or whatever.
It said, love has no age.
Gross.
hannah claire brimelow
It's so gross.
I think the thing is people have, I think people have confused love and sex and lust.
Like they think it's all the same thing and it's really not.
Obviously some of those things have components in other but like you like love or someone like the reason you married your wife isn't just because you think she's beautiful, right?
Like there is so much more to it and I think that is one of the reasons that people have a hard time determining what relationships to commit to and when to walk away from relationships.
Which is really sad, to be honest, because you are constantly getting mixed signals because you don't know how to read the signals.
lucas botkin
Right.
Or even just the idea if someone, you know, every time there's, almost every time there's a school shooting, there's a story of kids getting up and putting themselves in the, like, charging the gunman and getting killed, and I'm like, well, that person's more loving than most of the people, you know, talking about it because they're willing to sacrifice themselves for other people.
Like, that's a part of love that no one ever wants to talk about.
I just want to talk about the less part.
phil labonte
Yeah, the inability to distinguish between, from lust to love, I think is, that is an epidemic in society.
People don't realize that, like love is not, I mean, sure, you have all the lusting feelings when you're in a real relationship and stuff like that, but love isn't about that kind of stuff.
It's more of a trusting kind of thing, and I think that most people don't trust their significant other, so I feel like most people aren't actually in love.
hannah claire brimelow
I don't think we know how to build trust between people, because we're such a low-trust society.
I also think that people crave love, and they confuse it with just attention, and therefore, like, that's why you get so many girls who are like, well, I really need, maybe not thinking it consciously, but subconsciously, they need attention, and they know that basically presenting themselves sexually will get it, because people, again, confuse lust with sexual desire and love and everything like that.
So it becomes this obvious pipeline for like, I have a void I need to fill and this is how I think I'm going to get it filled because you can't distinguish the feelings and you don't know how to value them.
phil labonte
And I think that a lot of people nowadays, they don't, because the value on marriage has been significantly decreased, I guess is a way to say it.
I think, I don't think that people vote with, or I'm sorry, date with intention.
I think they're dating just to date and to spend time with someone else, not really looking to have a partner in the future.
And I mean, I'm, I just recently started dating, dating someone pretty seriously.
And it's like, we talked before we got serious, like, look, I'm dating with intention.
I'm not looking to just date to just date.
You know, it's like, there's a reason that we're dating, you know?
tim pool
There was a really funny post from earlier where it was a tweet from this woman and she goes, just bought a guy dinner, had sex with him, and then got him an Uber home.
Let's see how men like it.
And when I first saw that tweet, I didn't understand.
And I was like, well, that was nice.
unidentified
Oh.
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
I like, cause I, you know, I, I, I, she sank, I bought a guy dinner,
I was like, well, that's very nice.
Oh, she was doing it to be mean to him, but they really don't understand guys.
phil labonte
Don't understand.
hannah claire brimelow
Let's see how he likes it while she's like, but is he going to call me?
I bought him dinner.
Get it together team.
tim pool
She's like, and your car's waiting for you.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
tim pool
Thanks.
unidentified
Well, it's nice seeing you.
phil labonte
I actually saw a version of that where it's it's like it's that that picture for a few seconds and then there's a Quick clip of a dude just like skulking into the into the uber with a big old smile on his face like I'm out.
unidentified
See ya.
phil labonte
Thanks.
tim pool
Yeah, but I think feminism does all that It does!
Feminism gave men everything they could have asked for and more.
phil labonte
Absolutely.
tim pool
Men sitting around playing video games all day.
The women are all liberated, so they'll have sex with whoever.
The guys don't got to do any work for it.
unidentified
Holy shit.
hannah claire brimelow
Doesn't Andrew Schultz have a bit about this?
He's like, no, you guys don't understand.
Feminists, I agree with you.
You guys want to work?
Great!
You guys want to sleep around?
Do it!
You guys want to not wear shirts?
Excellent!
I went to a women's lib rally and said, come on guys, get down here!
This is what we wanted!
phil labonte
Can you believe what's going on around here?
I can't even believe it.
tim pool
For real though, women are working, so guys are working less.
Women are sexually liberated, so guys can bang whenever they want.
And men have no responsibility towards the women, so it's like, oh thanks.
And yeah, taking your shirts off.
lucas botkin
Men have definitely gotten softer.
That's a fact.
phil labonte
Absolutely.
tim pool
Because they don't have to fight for it anymore.
It used to be like, a woman would look at two guys, and she'd crack a pool stick in half, throw it on the ground, and be like, let's go!
And then the guys would be like, fuck it!
Now she's just like, I'll have her!
And it's like, I'll go first, you go second, or you want a rock, paper, scissor for it?
phil labonte
It makes me think of that couple, or not a couple, the group of people in that polyamorous relationship.
tim pool
The big fat chick?
phil labonte
That one large girl with a pink shirt and three just like, yeah, and four dudes just that were just the most pencil neck geek, like unimpressive specimens of humanity that you could possibly imagine.
And it's, it's just, It's amazing that people are that satisfied being, like, an option for someone that is just not a catch at all.
tim pool
I think their brains are broken.
No, because the overwhelming majority of people, even without traditions, are relatively monogamous, not doing these things, but people who are suffering from trauma, anxiety, mental illness, and depression are doing these aberrant things.
hannah claire brimelow
I think that relationship is like one person who has found three people who have extremely low self-esteem, right?
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
Garlock the destroyer.
hannah claire brimelow
Right, and you can't, you wouldn't want that for your partner, right?
You want them to feel confident and whatever else and like that's not, that's why that dynamic is so sad all around.
It's just kind of manipulative and Cruel.
I think one of the challenges with any relationship like you touched on this is that you have to build trust and we really struggle to do that now, especially as things become sort of more false and more gray area and you can present one face online and it could be different somewhere else.
Serge, you're interrupting my deep intellectual point while you're through with your giggling.
unidentified
I can see what Tim is Googling.
phil labonte
I think they should have gone with Gorlock the Destroyer.
lucas botkin
I was thinking Jabba the Hutt.
tim pool
It's a meme from the Whatever podcast and it says, been enjoying this podcast.
Great takes from Ashley, Rachel, Gorlock the Destroyer, and Tiffany.
And Gorlock is just this massive woman.
Well, she didn't look mean.
I mean, what she's saying, as he thinks, I'm not gonna rag on her just because she looks goofy, you know what I mean?
phil labonte
She definitely looks goofy.
tim pool
Well, but you know, is she a nice person?
lucas botkin
A little out of place.
Just a little out of place.
unidentified
Not particularly.
hannah claire brimelow
Just like I watch the episode, bad person.
tim pool
I understand the joke about calling her Gorlock the Destroyer.
She is not an attractive woman.
But all that really means is she's not going to get a date.
But if she's a good person with good views and good opinions, I'm not gonna be mean to her.
phil labonte
I hear it's a five hour episode of the whatever podcast.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Well, they're all five hours.
unidentified
Are they all?
phil labonte
Really?
Yeah.
tim pool
But he does it like twice a week, I think.
So he casts these women to come and talk and then, you know... Do they get to make paper cranes while they talk?
I guess.
There's Game Boys on the table.
And they have those cups from the 80s or whatever.
unidentified
The Wave.
hannah claire brimelow
How fun.
phil labonte
I'm gonna stop.
unidentified
Oh, it's the... I can say whatever I want, it's the... The thing is, that makes her a particularly unsavory thing, particularly if she's trans.
phil labonte
No, she's trans?
unidentified
It says it in the chat right there.
What?
Yeah, I believe so.
It's a guy?
tim pool
It's literally a dude?
Oh my god!
lucas botkin
I can't decide if this all just got better or worse.
unidentified
It got so much better!
It's so much better!
tim pool
The tweet's got 12 million views.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
12 million.
unidentified
I don't feel so bad about that.
tim pool
Ashley, Rachel, Gorlock the Destroyer.
unidentified
Bro!
lucas botkin
Hi, I'm Kiko.
unidentified
Bro. Oh, here. I am Kiko. I'm 23. I go to UCSB and I also bartend. That's why I said Java.
I'm 23.
I'm not a maple junkie, eat your- Hi, I'm Kiko.
I'm 23.
phil labonte
Oh, that's it.
unidentified
Wow, the internet is great.
phil labonte
It is undefeated.
tim pool
I actually want to hear what the person sounds like though.
So he got a guy.
I believe so.
Look at these women just staring at him.
lucas botkin
They don't look impressed.
hannah claire brimelow
She's leaning away.
Can you see that?
She's like kind of slightly leaning away.
lucas botkin
It's like sitting on the plane, you know, with someone a lot larger next to you.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, that's awkward because they can actually go back and see how many women they typically fit at that table.
tim pool
Were we talking about something serious before we?
hannah claire brimelow
Oh, sure.
lucas botkin
Is that what this show is for?
Seriously?
hannah claire brimelow
I was just saying before like maybe this is a good example that we live in a society where we can't always trust what we see and so therefore it becomes extremely difficult to cultivate trust so like you're saying people are like you should have your wife I don't know what at home or doing whatever and like I know from the opposite side of it like I would like ideally find someone who would like I would happily stay home good times but The challenge for women is that you have to find a man you can trust who you believe will try their hardest to work hard that you guys will have a partnership that is equally empowering even if you don't do the exact same things and that you ultimately build a unit together and that is challenging.
The example I bring up all the time is like Like if you guys want to have kids, your wife has to become pregnant.
Pregnancy is an incredibly vulnerable time for women.
Not only typically is it harder to work, but also like you literally squish all of your organs to produce a life.
It's not that you shouldn't do these things, but it is like you would only want to do that with someone who you can really count on.
And again, we live in a society that people don't cultivate clear communication and we don't know what's coming next and everything is transient.
You don't know if it'll be forever.
It's just, I can understand the fear around these things.
I don't think the answer is like polyamory or, you know, sort of these solutions that ultimately create more heartache.
lucas botkin
Yeah, it was funny, because the thing that people didn't like is we have a personal chef to buy us time so she doesn't have to cook, and people did not like that.
Because she's supposed to cook.
She's supposed to be in the kitchen.
And we were like, no, we're not supposed to.
hannah claire brimelow
But that's not, like, actually true.
Like, there are tons of... No, I'm being serious.
Like, there are tons of examples of, like, traditional culture or whatever, where, like, they have a cook.
She doesn't actually do all the cooking herself.
She just manages the household.
phil labonte
Lucas, you should always reply to that with, shut up, poor.
That's it.
Just...
Just don't even entertain it!
Like, don't even entertain that kind of bullshit.
hannah claire brimelow
There was, on our pop culture show, Pop Culture Criticism, there was a guy who would super chat in pretty regularly, and I think he, I don't remember his username, I wish he did, he was a goldsmith from the Austin area, I think, and he was like, oh yeah, I have a personal chef who, like, meal preps for me, and I'm a house cleaner, like, I make money, my time's worth doing other things, like.
unidentified
Great!
hannah claire brimelow
Excellent!
lucas botkin
Good for you, sir!
It removes stress.
We can have a better relationship.
When I come home from work, there's already meals in the fridge.
We throw them in the oven.
She doesn't have to then work after coming back or whatever.
It's better for the marriage.
tim pool
Yeah, you know, when I saw that Crowder stuff, I got offended because, you know, here's Crowder telling his wife to get in the kitchen and be wifey.
And I'm like, well, what's wrong with that?
Right?
Crowder's certainly justified in telling his wife.
I'm just kidding.
hannah claire brimelow
I wish that's what he was saying.
It does not seem like it.
tim pool
No, but that's actually, he says that.
He says you should be a better wife and do wifely things.
And then he told her apparently to like put on gloves and give the dogs their medicine, but she didn't want to do it because she was worried that it would get in her hands.
lucas botkin
Like a pregnancy or whatever.
tim pool
Yeah.
phil labonte
I don't know what's true and what's not true.
The stories sound bad.
lucas botkin
Okay, so I will say this, and this was evident even just talking to somebody, getting feedback from my followers about my relationship with my wife.
There are situations, we kind of talked about earlier, where men are lazy because of the culture and all that.
There should be some responsibility on the man to, like, free up stress and stuff off of the wife.
So, like, if she's pregnant and she can't do five different things, well, maybe the husband can either hire someone and spend some of his money that he wants to spend on fancy cars or whatever to help her get help or whatever, or he needs to get up off the couch and do some stuff and not just put everything on the wife.
Because, I mean, yeah, if she's pregnant, that's, like, the most important thing she can do.
And so, like, more guys need to jump in and do stuff.
hannah claire brimelow
You're just supposed to be a team, you know?
phil labonte
Men, your job is to take care of your wife or your significant other.
Not be a lazy slob.
You don't get to sit there and be like, ooh, I'm in charge, and I'm the head of the household, blah, blah, blah, and then not take care.
Like, part of being a leader— He's smoking a cigar, too.
Who?
tim pool
Crowder.
hannah claire brimelow
The optics aren't getting worse and worse.
phil labonte
That's horrid.
lucas botkin
It's not a good look.
phil labonte
Look, if you're in charge, the first thing you have is responsibility to take care of the people that you're in charge of.
That's the first rule of being a leader.
lucas botkin
Get them the resources they need.
phil labonte
Exactly.
You have to take care of the people that you're leading.
You have to take care of the people you're in charge of.
It's a responsibility.
The best thing in the world is to be not in charge so that way you can give the best answer.
I don't fucking know.
That's the best answer.
I don't know, palms up, dude.
Not my job.
Someone else's job.
I don't know.
I don't know the answer.
That's the best answer in the fucking world.
lucas botkin
Hey, guess what?
phil labonte
The guy in charge never gets to fucking say that.
lucas botkin
It's always his fault.
phil labonte
That's right.
lucas botkin
Always his fault.
Hey, at least he wasn't playing a video game or watching TV.
unidentified
That would have been- What was he doing?
lucas botkin
He was just sitting there outside.
I know, it's kind of weird though.
Just sitting there with his cigar.
Well, probably because he doesn't want to smoke inside.
tim pool
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
So he's smoking next to his pregnant wife?
tim pool
I just don't like these videos where it's just, like... Imagine if I... You guys ever played GTA?
You play GTA, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Here's what you do.
When you're playing GTA, you have the character, hit a guy, and then, as he starts chasing you, right?
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
Because you hit him, you call 911 on your phone, and you go, this guy's chasing me!
No, no, the cops will pull up, and then you stand there, and the guy will punch you, and the cops will kill him.
lucas botkin
Oh, nice!
tim pool
Yeah, so if the cops in GTA see a guy hit you, they attack the guy.
So you start the fight, you call 9-1-1, and then they kill the guy.
lucas botkin
It's not entrapment, basically.
tim pool
So that's why I'm like, I see these videos and I'm like, I don't know why she's out there.
For all we know, and I'm not saying it's true, I'm just saying, consider, she walked up to him and she said, you are a fucking scumbag, Steven.
You're a piece of shit garbage.
I'll never run into anything.
I love you so much.
And he's like, what the fuck?
We just don't know the full context.
We don't know why he's out there, why she's out there.
Not that I'm, I'm excusing him.
lucas botkin
I know, I know.
hannah claire brimelow
And even if like, I think you're right that it totally, we just don't know it's so hard to speculate, but like the fact that that was like his reaction, like even if she baited him into it, like- She got him then.
It's hard though.
Like, cause that means that she knew he would react that way.
unidentified
Yep.
lucas botkin
And like, I don't know.
Honestly, as someone who does PR and branding, all he needs to do is release a video and apologize for like, from what you saw is this.
And yeah, I'm not perfect.
I'm, I'm a human and I make mistakes and we're going through a thing.
tim pool
It's a deep fake.
He should be like, never happened.
AI-generated video.
hannah claire brimelow
I would never have a ring camera in my home.
This could not be us.
lucas botkin
He could literally just drop that video.
unidentified
Wife?
tim pool
Not even pregnant?
lucas botkin
We got screwed over on a situation.
We had American-made product that was getting smuggled across the border to be made in Mexico.
And we found out there were tags in the products that made Mexico that weren't ripped off.
So we talked about it.
We were like, we're gonna go public.
We're gonna tell people exactly what happened.
We're gonna offer refunds on everything.
phil labonte
What was it?
lucas botkin
What was it?
phil labonte
Was it soft goods?
lucas botkin
It was, yeah, plate carrier textiles.
And after that video, our sales skyrocketed.
unidentified
Wow.
lucas botkin
Because you're honest with people.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
lucas botkin
We told people what was happening.
tim pool
Let's go to callers.
Let's pull in some callers and have them ask us some very important questions.
unidentified
Okey-doke.
Pull up my Discord here.
Oh, it's Discord.
Yeah.
phil labonte
So that way the quality's there.
lucas botkin
I'm surprised y'all haven't been kicked off of there yet.
tim pool
We just started it and we're, you know, trying to find alternatives.
hannah claire brimelow
So don't give discord ideas.
unidentified
Yep.
Okie doke.
Uh, Mance, you're going to be up first.
How are you?
Hello.
phil labonte
Hello.
unidentified
Hey.
All right.
Uh, I got a question for the guests.
Okay.
Alright, so if states are going to take gun rights into their own hand, what do you think will happen if the Fed decided to actually take serious gun control action and enforce sweeping gun reform similar to the assault weapons ban like the 90s?
And what do you see happening if the government decided to do a weapons ban on AR-15-like guns, forcing to get a tax stamp on all future gun purchases?
lucas botkin
So, what I think would happen, one, I don't think that's going to happen anytime soon.
Firearms are now, can actually be argued, we're probably getting close to them being argued as common use.
There's so many that people have that they just can't ban them.
If the government, say, wanted to force it somehow, anyway, I think we would start seeing governors, and it wouldn't happen in all 50 states, who would say, and actually it already started a couple years ago, we are a two-way sanctuary state.
And then it would be a face-off between state government and federal.
Where the state would then go, FBI has no jurisdiction here.
ATF has no jurisdiction here.
And you'd have governors like Kemp in Georgia, or like our governor in Tennessee, doing this.
Now the question is, would there actually be face-offs?
And then, I kind of alluded to it on the show earlier, this all boils down to the federal government having control over FFLs.
As long as the government gets to control who can sell guns, And who, firearms manufacturers can sell guns to, they effectively control the arms trade.
And I actually think that's the bigger issue.
If the government bans guns, the real question is just going to be our FFLs, how are FFLs going to be affected by it?
Our firearms manufacturers, so we have a few in our state, Beretta's in our state.
Is Beretta just going to go, we're just going to sell guns to Tennessee citizens, we're going to say screw the federal government, and we're just going to do our own thing?
But the good news is I'm not super concerned about an assault weapons ban.
They've kind of tabled that They they kind of bring it up every year someone brings it up and it's funny because Democrats will say shut up We can't do it.
Don't don't you know, we're not gonna worry about this but it really would come down to a state's rights issue and With the way things have been going with the Supreme Court kind of pushing stuff back to the state I think it the the question then would be You know, when can FFLs actually, when can that whole system get torn down and states can decide how guns are sold in-state?
But, I'm not too concerned right now.
unidentified
Well, I mean, FFLs, I mean, Waco, everyone at Waco had an FFL, and you see what happened there, so.
lucas botkin
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't know.
I think that it's going to turn into a state's rights issue, which I'm looking forward to because I would love more states to jump in and say, boot the federal government out of their state and say that they're going to do it.
tim pool
Oh, so, so, uh, so sorry to interrupt, but Dylan Mulvaney did put out a video.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
unidentified
Okay.
lucas botkin
It's not that one though.
hannah claire brimelow
Okay.
tim pool
It's a different one.
hannah claire brimelow
Interesting.
tim pool
Good grief.
unidentified
Reasonable.
tim pool
Apparently apparently don't move any called for the arrest about Matt wall says don't move any calls for the arrest of
people calling her him dude Good grief
hannah claire brimelow
Reasonable, whatever. Can I ask is there a state that whose gun laws you think are like bleeding country?
Look, is there a state that's doing it, right?
lucas botkin
As long as the federal government has say no, um, I I mean, a lot of the states like Tennessee and a few others, they're all about the same.
The ones that allow constitutional carry, like in Tennessee, SBRs technically are legal.
We can manufacture suppressors and sell them in state and not, you know, it's perfectly legal.
But the federal government says, well, we're not going to recognize that.
So we're still going to put people in prison who have illegal SBRs, didn't pay the tax stamp.
You manufactured suppressors and sold them in state.
There was a trial in Kansas over the same thing about three years ago.
And I think the federal government basically rolled them up, even though.
In the state, he was legal for selling and manufacturing a suppressor.
So this really does boil down to a states' rights issue.
And a lot of the states like Tennessee and some of the other ones, they're all kind of about the same.
hannah claire brimelow
There's not like a leader of the pack?
lucas botkin
Not really.
As long as the government can basically veto everything and say, well, we control the FFLs and who gets to sell guns.
We control the NFA and who can have suppressors.
It doesn't really matter what the state can do until the state says, hey, we're gonna start up our own gun manufacturing selling business in our state.
tim pool
I don't know if you guys finished the question for the, uh, for the, for our... It's about as finished as I can do it.
lucas botkin
I wish I had the full answer.
tim pool
Sorry, I got a notification about the Dylan thing with Matt Walsh that I was reading, but... Was that satisfactory, good sir?
unidentified
It was pretty satisfactory.
Also, I had to take down all my bushlight flags.
And, uh, it's pretty, uh, bushlight heavy here.
tim pool
Right on.
Cool, man.
Thanks for calling in.
lucas botkin
Yeah, thanks, man.
unidentified
Yeah, thank you.
True, true, bro.
Um, let's get, uh, Mr. Shiny Cadillac, uh, in the chat.
I don't know if you wanted to show that to him.
Do you want to?
I'd probably not.
tim pool
Show what?
unidentified
The video of whatever her name is.
Or his name is.
lucas botkin
Oh, Dylan, I- Yeah, yeah.
Whoa, you made a mistake!
unidentified
I was just- I was- I miss gender.
tim pool
I was checking to see if Dylan had put out a new video since the controversy and Dylan did.
And it's like, I think it's some kind of response.
I mean, should we play it?
unidentified
We can very easily.
Let me see if I can pull it up.
I don't even know if I want to watch it.
hannah claire brimelow
It's been like four weeks, right?
That was like a pretty month long social media.
Do you ever have to give advice?
unidentified
You said you do one of being a human.
And I'm going to try to get gender out of this since that's how we found ourselves here.
I've been offline for a few weeks and a lot has been said about me, some of which is so far from my truth that I've been hearing my name and I didn't even know who they were talking about sometimes.
It's a very disassociative feeling.
And it was so loud that I didn't even feel part of the conversation.
Good.
So I decided to take the back seat and just let them tucker themselves out.
I ain't getting tired.
But then I remembered that nearly 13 million people at some point enjoyed me enough to hit the follow button on these apps.
And I was like, wait, wait, wait, I want to talk to those people.
So hi, long time no talk.
How are you?
Um, you might want to grab a beverage.
This is going to be a longer one.
But I'm doing okay.
And I'm trying this new thing where I don't pressure myself to share anything before I'm ready.
And I'm actually sitting with my emotions, you know, not reacting, waiting to respond.
And shockingly, I can't recommend it more.
Like, therapy is paying off here, people.
But I do have some thoughts to share with you.
So I've been having crazy deja vu because I'm an adult, I'm 26, and throughout childhood, I was called too feminine and over the top.
And here I am now being called all those same things, but this time it's from other adults.
And if they're going to accuse me of anything, it should be that I'm a theater person and that I'm camp, but this is just my personality and it always has been.
Yeah.
Yeah.
tim pool
Narcissistic, psychopathic, etc.
unidentified
What I'm struggling with most is that I grew up in a conservative family, and I'm extremely privileged because they still love me very much, and I grew up in the church.
tim pool
They don't love you.
unidentified
And I still have my faith, which I am really trying to hold onto right now.
tim pool
Seamus is spinning in his airplane seat.
unidentified
You know, even the people that make it really, really hard.
And I think it's okay to be frustrated with someone or confused, but what I'm struggling to understand is the need to dehumanize and to be cruel.
tim pool
Oh, Dylan's questioning himself now?
Why he's dehumanizing and being so cruel?
unidentified
Dehumanization has never fixed anything in history, ever.
And, you know, I'm embarrassed to even tell you this, but I was nervous that you were going to start believing those things that they were saying about me, since it is so loud.
But I'm just gonna go ahead and trust that the people who know me and my heart won't listen to that noise.
What I'm interested in is getting back to making people laugh.
tim pool
There it is.
unidentified
And to never stop learning and going forward.
I want to share parts of myself on here that have nothing to do with my identity.
I don't want to see parts.
tim pool
Dylan's whole bit is to insult and it's a menstrual show of women and trans people.
unidentified
Because people laugh at it.
Even if you don't fully understand or relate to me, thank you.
And I don't know if reincarnation is a thing, but in my next life, I would love to be someone non-confrontational and uncontroversial.
God, that sounds nice.
tim pool
The good news is that the people pleaser in me has nearly died because there's clearly no- Okay, I'm not playing the rest, but I do want to point out- Is that a TikTok video?
That's long for a TikTok video.
Yeah, three minutes.
I agree with those trans YouTubers who have said that Del Mulvaney is lying about taking estrogen.
Because there's videos where Dylan's wearing like a sports bra with small like chest bumps, I don't wanna call them boobs, but here you can see that Dylan is not wearing whatever fake prosthetic or whatever it is he normally wears.
So there are some trans YouTubers who are like, Dylan is clearly not taking, uh...
I mean, look at the face even, too.
It looks like the... So what I was told is, the facial surgery was very light, so that Dylan could easily detransition.
No facial hair removal, which is the easiest and cheapest thing to do.
Dylan still has a beard.
Meaning, at any point, Dylan could just instantly be a guy again, like the transition's not real.
And now you can tell, Dylan must be wearing some kind of fake boob thing.
lucas botkin
Can you transition back and still be considered trans?
Can you be like, as a woman, that I'm now a real woman, I can now go and be a real man.
tim pool
We should just go back to callers.
I kind of wish we didn't play that video.
unidentified
It's kind of my fault for bringing it up, guys.
I apologize.
Let's go to, it says something about... It's pretty textbook PR damage control.
I guess murder, burt, glurts?
lucas botkin
Murder, burt, gloats?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
What's going on, brother?
unidentified
Can y'all hear me?
Hi.
Yeah, what's up?
Hey everyone, I'm honored to have made the cut tonight.
So, my question is, with Tennessee becoming a front in the culture war, and recent events showing weakness of the governor and some other conservatives changing their tone on red flag laws, And I feel like we should highlight those in positions that are still upholding the values in the face of all the scrutiny.
Uh, which leads me to ask, have you guys seen, uh, Glenn Jacobs, the former wrestler Kane from the WWE, his, uh, mayor of Knox County's, uh, profile on Twitter recently had a video up yesterday and it was pushing back against all this, uh, false flag propaganda.
tim pool
False flag propaganda?
unidentified
Oh, crap, sorry.
Sorry, I'm a little nervous.
lucas botkin
Red flag.
unidentified
Red flag.
tim pool
Not bad.
unidentified
Righty and slip.
lucas botkin
No, you're good.
phil labonte
Glenn's a pretty libertarian guy, if I understand correctly.
He's pretty good on most things that I've heard and seen, but I don't have an extensive knowledge of his policies.
But if I understand correctly, he has been endorsed by the Libertarian Party, which is generally a good thing.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I feel like I only hear about him through, oh, did you see what he's posting on social media?
Like, he is an interesting study in the sense that I think his team is really using the internet to reach people and connect, which, you know, especially, you know, being from a smaller area, it's interesting that they're feeling empowered to do that, or they feel like it's worth investing in, I should say.
But I don't know a ton about him.
unidentified
Yeah.
Well, just as a quick follow-up, would you guys happen to be interested in Possibly having him on if the connection could be made?
I don't know, except Cassandra.
Sure, yeah.
tim pool
She handles all the boogin'.
phil labonte
I imagine put him in touch with Cassandra Fairbanks.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
unidentified
Cassandra McDonald.
phil labonte
Oh yes, I'm sorry.
My apologies.
hannah claire brimelow
I feel like I say all three names now.
unidentified
Yeah, I mean... That's how I met her, but then like... Exactly.
hannah claire brimelow
I love this change of name.
phil labonte
Became familiar with the old names.
unidentified
It's at Cassandra Rules on Twitter.
phil labonte
There you go.
My apologies, Cassandra.
unidentified
All right, gotcha.
tim pool
Right on, man.
phil labonte
Thank you guys.
tim pool
Yeah, thanks for calling in.
unidentified
Thank you.
All right, wait, what's going on here?
There we go.
All right, Papa Dan, what's going on?
Not a ton, guys.
Good evening, good evening.
Questions for Mr. Botkin.
So many people have told me that 300 Blackout is basically a meme round and should never have been popular ever.
And that 77 grain out of a 10 1⁄2 inch to 14 inch barrel is perfectly fine, ballistically speaking.
I'm hoping you can settle that debate for me.
hannah claire brimelow
You look like you're in pain over there.
lucas botkin
Let me tell you the gun that's next to my bed in my house to protect myself and my wife and all my animals.
I have a Sig MCX with a surefire suppressor chambered in 300 blackout with
subsonic Hornady 200 grain ammunition and
I shoot that gun very well, and I prefer to have that as my main gun than any other.
Although I have guns all over, drawers and stuff.
300 blackout is a great round if you're going to suppress it.
It's not bad if you don't suppress it, but I would recommend it if you are wanting to run a dedicated suppress rifle.
Your friends are wrong.
They don't know what they're talking about.
You should get what makes you happy, and it just so happens what makes you happy is also really good.
tim pool
You know what makes me happy?
I got a .357 Winchester Repeater, and it's just so much fun.
It's my favorite.
lucas botkin
Imagine if that had a suppressor on it.
unidentified
Red dot, you know, laser, light, just tactical.
tim pool
It's a cowboy gun.
It's just fun.
phil labonte
You should see what cowboy guns look like nowadays.
unidentified
They're badass!
tim pool
I got that right there.
phil labonte
Yeah.
lucas botkin
And the sword, if you want to get real brutal.
tim pool
Yeah, I got an actual model 1862 Civil War rifled musket right there.
Oh, that's pretty cool.
It's never even been dry fired.
It's real.
They manufactured 10,000, but never actually sent them out.
The war ended.
phil labonte
No shit, huh?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So I got an antique store.
It's real.
phil labonte
Oh, wow.
unidentified
Yeah.
lucas botkin
Legit.
tim pool
Actually from the Civil War.
Crazy.
Yeah.
lucas botkin
Nope.
Get the 300 blackout.
It'll be expensive to shoot, but they're great.
unidentified
Well, any more questions?
Any follow-up?
No, copy that.
I thank you for the settling of that debate.
tim pool
I appreciate you guys.
unidentified
Have a great evening.
Have a great Alright, my question is mainly to Lucas.
So for, due to my job, I'm moving around every six months for the next year-ish, a little bit longer.
Is there anything that you would recommend to like start prepping or getting ready if shit hits the fan?
lucas botkin
As far as you're moving... Chickens!
So you're moving for work, so you're not at home.
Or you're about to move to a new location and stay there.
I guess I'm confused as to your parameters.
unidentified
So I move to a different location every six months until the end of next July.
So I don't really have a home base.
I'm also 23 and I just graduated college last May.
lucas botkin
So the whole prepping thing, I think is, I think a lot of people blow that out of proportion.
First off, if you can't, if you don't have a community to begin with, how much water and beans and stuff you buy isn't that useful?
tim pool
And let me just add real quick, in terms of what you need to stock up on, you know, for keeping your family safe, I'm thinking a couple of Rhode Island Reds, a couple of Leghorns.
Chickens.
lucas botkin
But anyway, so you're you're in an interesting situation because you're basically a nomad because you're moving every six months.
And I would take full advantage of that and spend your time and resources developing skills that you can take anywhere because you're not you're not going to have a farm.
You're not going to, I don't have a farm right now.
Um, I live in a more of a city-ish house for work cause I'm prioritizing that over like prepping.
Um, but I, I don't think that's a, it's a real big issue.
Um, I'd say spend the time and money on hard skills and then just have the, the, the bare minimum that you need, you know, every six months, uh, you need weapons, you know, having, uh, even FEMA's require, uh, suggestions are actually really good.
It's like have two weeks of water.
I have such and such amount of food to get through national disasters.
I'd say go off of that and develop yourself and in the future look at prepping.
Alcohol!
Alcohol, but like most people prepping and spending all their time doing it and they don't have a community, they're not in a good place.
It's like it's kind of a waste of resources and time.
tim pool
Booze, but maybe just some legit alcohol properly sealed and stored because man you don't want to stub your toe and have to cut your foot off.
phil labonte
One of the things that Lucas mentioned that I think is really important is the fact that FEMA's stuff is really, you know, it's good to start with.
It also is really easy to tell your friends, oh, this is just what FEMA recommends and people will stop giving you weird looks.
From the government.
If you're like, oh, if your friends are people that don't think like this, you know, get wind that you're quote-unquote prepping, then you're gonna be getting weird looks, there'll be jokes, whatever, all kinds of things that people say.
If you say, well, I'm just doing the stuff that FEMA says, then those kind of remarks and stuff will end right away, because it's, oh, this is what the government recommends, this is what the authorities say, this is what you're supposed to do.
lucas botkin
I hope that's helpful.
It is a weird situation to be in, but that's most Americans.
I mean, 92% of the population lives in the city.
You can't really prep in the city.
The best you can do is develop hard skills.
So if something happens in the future, you're valuable in a community in the future.
tim pool
Well, you can prep in the city.
So if you do live in a city, here's what I recommend.
You're gonna want a penthouse suite with a helipad.
So maybe 30 stories up.
You're gonna want an entire floor dedicated to your arsenal and your food storage.
And then should shit hit the fan, you want to make sure you can carry enough in your private helicopter to escape the city before the hordes make it to your penthouse armory.
hannah claire brimelow
I went on a date once where we built bug out bags and just got first aid kits.
Not super intense ones, but it was nice.
phil labonte
How come you're not married yet?
hannah claire brimelow
I'm difficult.
I'm a challenge, as they say.
phil labonte
That sounds like a keeper, that kind of guy.
hannah claire brimelow
I know.
Well, technically it was my idea, but I recommend it.
lucas botkin
So you're the keeper.
Okay.
hannah claire brimelow
That's why I'm not married.
I can't marry myself.
No, I'm just kidding.
lucas botkin
I don't know, nowadays you probably do.
phil labonte
It's the wrong state, apparently.
unidentified
Well, uh, yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
No, thank you.
I would hate to marry myself.
That sounds the most narcissistic thing of all time.
lucas botkin
I think it's what Dylan's doing.
unidentified
How was that for you, young Rams?
Uh, thank you.
That's, uh, some good advice and I'll definitely do that.
Thank you.
lucas botkin
Awesome.
unidentified
Thanks for calling in.
Of course, man.
Cheers.
tim pool
Was that all of our callers?
unidentified
That is all of our callers.
I just want to shout out to the callers and to Brett.
Thanks for keeping it concise.
It definitely helps out.
Um, yeah, sure.
tim pool
We wrap up a little bit early.
Do try to have some longer conversation.
But to be honest, we were normally doing half an hour segments and they turned into hour segments.
unidentified
Right.
lucas botkin
Nice.
tim pool
Well, I guess we'll wrap things up.
Lucas, it's been a blast for hanging out.
I'm going to show you the arsenal.
unidentified
Sweet.
tim pool
It's not really an arsenal.
I'm just kidding.
lucas botkin
You should come see ours.
phil labonte
It's cool.
tim pool
Yours is going to be a real one.
Mine's just like a, like a, like a closet, you know, but we'll go check it out.
phil labonte
I legitimately want to take you up on that offer.
lucas botkin
Come on out!
And you know what's funny?
You know what's funny?
I can legally bring stuff here.
I can't bring a personal firearm.
I can bring our belt-fed machine gun.
It's a work gun.
I could bring it, put it on this table for a show, show how to load and unload.
tim pool
Not on YouTube.
lucas botkin
It'd be legal.
Yeah, it'd be fine.
Because I have all the paperwork.
tim pool
YouTube only allows guns in a safety setting.
Like a gun store or on a range.
lucas botkin
It will be very safe.
tim pool
And no live streaming at all.
You can't live stream guns at all on YouTube.
lucas botkin
So what's funny is I challenged that early on when they put the rules forward.
I was like, well, I'm going to keep doing live streams in my armory.
So they'd be in the background and stuff and we were fine.
As long as they didn't handle them.
tim pool
Exactly.
If you handle them as when you so like this thing behind me, I know it's like not, it's not, it's actually not legally a gun.
lucas botkin
Right.
But YouTube will still be like, yeah, it's a gun.
tim pool
Yeah.
All right, everybody, thanks for hanging out.
lucas botkin
It's been a blast!
unidentified
Cheers.
tim pool
We're gonna be back tomorrow.
We've got, uh, tomorrow on The Culture War, George Alexopoulos, G Prime 85, and the first thing I'm gonna ask him is, why the fuck we're using Patreon, bro?
I'm not kidding, I'm gonna ask him that.
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