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Timcast IRL - Bud Light SLAMMED By Left For BACKING AWAY From Trans Ad Campaign w/Xaviaer DuRousseau
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tim pool
So last week, on a Friday evening, Anheuser-Busch put out a non-apology statement, where they
just said, you know, we didn't mean to be divisive, thank you and have a nice day.
They also, through Budweiser, released an ad showing a horse running across America, and then winning or whatever it's called, and talking about patriots, because, yeah.
The boycott is bad for them.
They're worried about it.
Their stock was skyrocketing this month.
Now it's dipping back down, dropped five points in the past week.
Well, comparably, other beer companies aren't doing so bad.
They're actually seeing an increase.
So, Don Jr.
comes out and says, everybody stop!
You gotta stop boycotting Anheuser-Busch over their sponsorship of Dylan Mulvaney.
And he said they actually donate a lot to conservatives.
Well, guess what happened?
As predicted, here we are.
The non-apology statement has resulted in a backlash where the left has now come out.
Whoopi Goldberg on The View said to Anheuser-Busch, don't let them scare you, let us scare you.
And isn't that exactly what I've been saying for the past two and a half weeks?
That Anheuser-Busch needs to issue an apology to make the statement that they're more concerned about their own customers, supposedly the people they support, than they are far-left extremists.
I think the story here is more than just Anheuser-Busch and Bud Light.
The story is, the left is, in my view, victim of the algorithmic decay.
unidentified
We are seeing... Who's that, you?
tim pool
So what we are seeing is the algorithm promoting and manipulating content, making people go crazy, and for no logical reason, The View, defending that.
Because they're tribalist zombies.
We on the other end are saying, hey, the algorithm is plaguing people's minds, making teenagers depressed, and you shouldn't advertise alcohol to minors.
And for some reason, Whoopi Goldberg is so angered by that thought, she went on her national television show and said, Budweiser, you better not.
You should fear us.
So this is interesting.
We also got a bunch of other stories.
In Chicago, for four nights in a row, we had mass rioting, what's called the Teen Takeover.
In Los Angeles, the street takeovers are getting worse, and roving bands of, I guess, marauders are smashing up businesses and stealing stuff.
And in Chicago, they tried breaking into the Art Institute and got shot.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
What a crazy past weekend, I suppose.
So we're going to talk all about that.
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Joining us tonight to talk about all of this and more is Xavier DeRusso.
unidentified
Thank you for having me.
tim pool
Who are you, good sir?
unidentified
I'm Xavier DeRusso.
I'm here from Los Angeles.
I'm a PragerU personality and doing everything we can to fight this culture war.
tim pool
I think what's really interesting about your story is that, and you just basically told me the gist of it before we went live, you were a Black Lives Matter supporter and activist who was trying to debunk Candace Owens and then accidentally debunked yourself.
unidentified
Yeah, I was casted for a big reality show.
I had been woke my entire life.
My family's pretty far left.
And when I was going on that show, I wanted to study all the Karna arguments, so I made a list of different things I wanted to debunk from PragerU, from Candace Owens, and I ended up dismantling my entire indoctrination narrative instead.
Wow!
So I backed out of the show and started speaking on conservative values.
tim pool
Wow, that's amazing!
Alright, well, we got a lot to talk about, so thanks for hanging out.
unidentified
Thanks for having me.
tim pool
We got Phil Labonte.
phil labonte
Hello, I am Phil Labonte, lead singer of All That Remains, anti-communist and counter-revolutionary.
How you doing, Brett?
brett dasovic
Oh, how's it going, guys?
Yes, my name is Brett Dasovic, Monday through Friday.
I am the host of Pop Culture Crisis right here on YouTube.com.
It's at 3 p.m.
I'm sitting in for Ian tonight.
I don't quite have his hair or his gravitas, but I'll do my best.
tim pool
We'll just need you to talk about graphene at least.
brett dasovic
Yeah, we've got graphene here, so I can channel that.
We got that.
tim pool
All right, right on.
And we got Serge pressing the buttons.
serge du preez
Yo, what's up, guys?
tim pool
All right, let's jump into this first story from Yahoo News.
Whoopi Goldberg to Anheuser-Busch on conservative backlash.
Don't let them scare you.
Let us scare you.
Oh boy!
I love Whoopi Goldberg and The View just overtly threatening terror against their political opponents.
Okay, I'm being a bit hyperbolic in that regard.
Here we go.
Whoopi Goldberg and her co-hosts on ABC's The View weighed in today on the recent Budweiser controversies, reminding the beer maker that as the show's Anna Navarro said, members of the LGBT community are Americans too.
The conversation follows conservative backlash and calls for boycott over their partnership with Dylan Mulvaney.
Goldberg beginning the hot topic debate by noting that Budweiser was her beer of choice before she quit drinking.
Oh, before she quit, huh?
Asked what conservatives are so angry about.
Beer is not a Democrat or Republican.
It doesn't have a belief system.
It's just beer.
Well, uh, I'll tell you.
I'll tell you.
It's because Dylan Mulvaney is the embodiment of what I call Elsagate 2.0, the algorithmic manipulation resulting in chaotic nonsense content.
And then Bud Light was like, I got an idea.
Let's fund more of this decay and promote booze to children.
And so I'm just like, bro, everything about what you're doing is a bad thing.
But here's the best part.
The VP of marketing for Budweiser admitted their goal was to market alcohol to kids.
She was like, it's a it's an old dying brand and we got to get young people like, oh, is that what you're saying?
Because Dylan Mulvaney's audience are like 15 years old.
You can just Google it.
The average user of TikTok is under 21.
That's all that matters.
And then obviously, Dylan Mulvaney's audience is not a bunch of 50 year old dudes.
It's a bunch of 15 year old kids.
That's why I'm mildly perturbed.
I don't know about you guys.
phil labonte
It blows my mind that Dylan Mulvaney has an audience of teens.
I don't see... I'm not a teen, but I don't see what is actually... Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on.
tim pool
Like, why a teen?
Teenagers, in my opinion, aren't seeking out something of, like...
They're being recommended things, right?
They're not walking to a library and being like, and saying like, give me something that's, you know, in the vein of a dystopian.
No, they're showing up the teachers being like, here's the book to read.
They're seeing the commercials, seeing the ads.
They're young people.
I'm not saying that to be mean.
I'm saying young people are learning and developing and being influenced by their older peers.
So what's happening is TikTok is putting Dylan Mulvaney in front of people, more and more people.
That's why I don't like that they're giving Dylan Mulvaney sponsorship.
phil labonte
Your argument is that the algorithm is what's presenting this stuff to kids, but the algorithm responds to what people continue to watch, right?
tim pool
I would say yes and no, right?
So if you go on Instagram, you'll see the algorithm feeding you a bunch of stuff based on what you like, but periodically it sends me stuff I have no idea why.
It's testing the waters with certain content.
You could argue that with TikTok, They put this content out there and it got a response, right?
But the reality is we already know from, and now especially from the Twitter files, they put their thumb on the scales and they choose what is or isn't allowed.
And if we go back to the Rogan Experience conversation that I had with Jack Dorsey and Vijay Gadde, they explicitly said they were protecting this community.
And not other communities.
So they outright were like, trans content is under our overt and explicit protection.
That means that if Dylan Mulvaney made, if Dylan Mulvaney came out with like a video debunking critical race theory, it's not going to get play.
Tim cast IRL on TikTok, banned.
Because they choose, we aren't allowed, Dylan Mulvaney gets protected and or promoted.
And I'll give you an example.
I was talking to these people last weekend about exactly this and why Dylan Mulvaney is bad.
And the easiest way to explain it is, first, regular people like Whoopi Goldberg and default liberals look at Dylan Mulvaney and they're like, it's just a trans person.
But Dylan Mulvaney is not.
Dylan Mulvaney, I don't believe is trans.
I think it's all just part of the algorithmic machine.
The example I use is how young girls are developing Tourette syndrome.
Have you guys seen this story?
From Twitter, I'm sorry, from Instagram and TikTok.
Teenage girls started seeing massive spikes in Tourette tics because what happened was a few young women with Tourette syndrome got prominent followings and they would make these videos where they would be like sometimes it's it's like a and then I'm trying to talk and then they started young girls are imitating this content and actually developing this social behavior and making more and more content about it.
That is exactly what Dylan Mulvaney is.
Dylan Mulvaney gets fed this content, tries to make content that will get Dylan Mulvaney famous, figures it out, and it's creating a feedback loop that is melting people's brains.
Now, with the Tourette thing, we know Tourette's is not good.
We don't have people coming out being like, if a child identifies as having Tourette's, you should affirm them.
No one's arguing that.
But when it comes to what Dylan Mulvaney is doing, they're all defending it and arguing for more.
So here's where we are.
Just to get the conversation going.
Whoopi Goldberg and the view on the left has realized they're losing this one.
And they have made it explicitly clear to Anheuser-Busch, fear us.
Because all I said was this.
Guys, don't buy Bud Light.
Don't buy Anheuser-Busch.
You don't gotta go protest.
You don't gotta make a phone call.
You don't gotta do anything other than buy a different beer.
Easiest thing in the world.
And they know, and to respond to that, they have to make sure they remind Anheuser-Busch that they engage in violence and terror.
phil labonte
As an anecdote, I've seen some of my friends that are left-leaning have a little pushback on the Bud Light boycott.
And I feel like the pushback is because it's effective.
And I don't think that it's going to have a significant effect on their bottom line.
It's not going to be a monetary victory, but it's going to be something where It's going to inhibit other brands from doing this kind of stuff because you know, I mean, June is only a month and a half away and it's going to be, it's going to be, you know, everything's going to be pride for the whole month.
So I think that this is more about messaging to brands.
Hey, look, you know, Did that article also say that beer doesn't know a political party?
brett dasovic
Have they ever been to a microbrewery?
If you went and polled the people at a microbrewery about who their political affiliations are, who do you think that would be?
phil labonte
It may not have a political opinion, but it knows that it's better than you at the very least.
unidentified
That's the one thing that I thought she said that was correct.
Beer should not have a political party.
I don't need every single product that I get to have a political party attached to it.
But what Budweiser just did was the dumbest thing I've ever seen.
I've never seen a company shoot themselves in both feet so quickly.
tim pool
Well, I would agree with you maybe two years ago, but now I'm like, no, I demand all of my products just come out right now and say Trump 2024 and fly American flags.
That's it.
If a company comes out and they're selling flip-flops and they got American flags, I'm buying them because I'm at a point where I'm sick of people like Whoopi Goldberg.
I'm sick of what Anheuser-Busch did.
If Anheuser-Busch just said, I don't know or care, here's beer, I'd be like, well, it is what it is.
But they decided to get involved and then they, apparently, they give more money to Republicans.
Don Jr.
pointed it out and said, stop boycotting them, and I'm like, no, no.
If they know that Republicans butter their bread to the point where they give more to Republicans, then they should come out and say, along with the money we give you, we're gonna apologize for pissing you off.
They could not even do that.
But you said, Phil, you don't think it's gonna be monetary?
I'll tell you what is bad.
There's that, what's that guy's name?
Riley Green, the country singer.
We had a story on Timcast.com.
He had a line in his song where he said, the cooler is always full of bud light or whatever.
He changed the lyrics of the performance to they're always full of Coors Light.
And look, some people might find that silly, but that does matter to a brand.
You are so iconic that a famous country music song referenced your brand.
That's something you cannot buy.
And you've pissed off people to the point where now your rival, your competitor, is getting that value.
That's bad.
I wouldn't be surprised if we see Coors stock going up because of this.
So now the question is, as we enter the fray in terms of the brand's civil war, How far does this go?
You know, like I'm saying, if I'm gonna buy bottled water, I'm gonna order Trump water.
Can I order Trump water from now on?
Trump's got his own bottled water brand for his hotel chain.
I'm just gonna order that and we're gonna have it in the basement.
phil labonte
You could probably get it.
tim pool
I'm gonna look it up.
unidentified
Well, we need to stand firm on this boycott.
Because one problem with the right is we always give up our own power.
Like, why is it that we're so quick to just end these boycotts?
We don't hold these companies accountable.
And then we're shocked when we see the left continues to win and the left continues to pull them over.
Because Whoopi said it herself.
They shouldn't be scared of us.
They should be scared of them.
That is very intentional.
And they're winning because they'll actually try to cancel a company.
They'll stop putting their dollars towards something.
But conservatives, we always choose convenience.
brett dasovic
There's more infrastructure on their side to just hold out and hold through.
For us, for a lot of companies, like this comes up a lot when we talk a lot about the TV shows and stuff that we review, right?
Because it's very easy to say that you're not going to watch anything from Disney, or you're not going to watch anything from these companies, or Netflix.
But at the end of the day, if part of your job requires you to actually end up reviewing their content because it's still held in the public, you know, in the public eye as something to talk about, it's very hard to get away from that.
And like you said... Do you refer to yourself?
Yes.
I don't.
I'm not a boycotter in that respect.
A lot of times I'll hold the product accountable.
If I don't like the product that's being made, whether it's movies or television, I will call it out for what it is when it's bad.
But for a lot of those things, I don't do the boycott because I don't find that it's, I don't find it effective because these companies seem to exist in a post-profit era anyways.
It doesn't feel like no matter how much we, now you said they've lost like what, six million or six billion in value?
tim pool
six point something billions, ten and a half billion dollars.
brett dasovic
Every time that we talk about this with Disney or something like that, they fire a few thousand
workers and then next year they're just right back where they were before.
And I just, I don't see it.
Maybe it just needs to be held at a stronger pressure point for a longer period of time.
But I do think that we overestimate our...
Go ahead.
tim pool
I'm gonna say this is this is why it's like the most important culture war battle.
It's too easy.
brett dasovic
Yeah.
tim pool
It's too easy.
It's too easy for me to be like, hey, everybody, you want to help win the culture war?
Buy a different beer.
That's it.
You don't got to stop drinking.
You don't got to go to a different bar.
When you go to the bar, you sit down and say, but no, what do we got a Coors?
brett dasovic
And it's why it's so important that companies like Daily Wire and Eric D. July are making their own products.
Obviously, I'm talking in a different medium here, but making an alternative to what you're being fed by these companies is extremely important.
unidentified
I don't think Bud Light did this stunt for consumer profit, though.
I think they're just trying to raise their social credit score, essentially, because these big corporate investing firms, they are all about that The social credit score.
And it's called, I believe it's Consumer Equality Index.
I forgot what the C is.
Corporation Equality Index.
And that's like one of the most weighing factors in the social credit score that these companies have.
And that CEI, it was founded by the biggest LGBT lobbying group in 2002.
brett dasovic
And so then Bud Light would already, as like a formerly extremely pro-America group, and a lot of these people hate America, is probably already seen as in the negative, so they have to like earn their way back forward.
Exactly.
tim pool
Take a look at this.
It's not just a boycott.
Right now, Anheuser-Busch is accused of racist and sexist hiring practices that prioritized minorities in complaint filed by Trump advisers legal group during the Dylan Mulvaney firestorm.
You know, Anheuser-Busch could have just stayed out of this whole thing.
After they accidentally stepped in it, they could have just apologized.
They didn't.
And now, not only are they being targeted by The View, Whoopi Goldberg, they're now facing a lawsuit from America First Legal.
They say the group claimed that companies are using the cloak of equity to proudly discriminate based on race, color, national origin, and sex in their employment practices.
AFL, who's president, and America First Legal's president and CEO is a former Trump advisor, Stephen Miller, Sent a complaint letter to the St.
Louis, Missouri office for the EEOC requesting an investigation into Anheuser-Busch's programs.
Amazing.
Look at this.
What is this?
Brewing scholarship.
Developed in partnership with UNCF, the annual scholarship program supports 25 black college students pursuing degrees ranging from business to food science that could lead to a career in the brewing industry.
So is that what they're being targeted?
Like these scholarships?
They say one is the Leadership Accelerator Program, which advises, ...which advertises that it provides formal mentorship, executive interaction, and leadership development curriculum for those who identify with historically underrepresented groups as they join our organization in a full-time capacity.
It only encourages people of black, Native American, and Latino origins to apply.
There you go.
This is not a regular corporate program, rather the company describes the role as focusing on hiring the next generation of leaders within the North American Sustainability and Procurement Department.
In other words, it is a fast-track program to executive leadership positions at Anheuser-Busch, and it is limited to candidates based on race.
The pro forma equal opportunity employer language at the end of the posting does mask the company's discriminatory intent and purpose.
Interesting.
Now they're getting hit over what basically tons of companies are doing, but good on America First Legal, I guess?
unidentified
These diversity quotas are nothing new and affirmative action surely isn't new.
And when those were created, they weren't supposed to last this long.
But now it's created what I basically call black privilege, where we are given all these opportunities just because of the color of our skin.
And I feel like it's such an outdated concept that It shocks me that you still have companies that are going so out of their way to push for minorities as if minorities can't be successful on our own right.
It's honestly insulting to me and I feel like it's going to continue until I honestly feel like white people are going to have their own version of like a civil rights movement just because these racist things just keep happening in these companies.
tim pool
I think it's going to result in heightened racial tension, people fighting, and then you've already seen people claiming to be like white rights movement like stuff like the past several years.
And they're making these arguments like, hey, you know, a poor white dude who wants to go to college shouldn't have barriers placed in front of them.
In response, the media just says, you're a white supremacist.
unidentified
That is so bad.
tim pool
All of it?
phil labonte
All of it.
Like the idea of like having people start having people start having white people start saying we need a white You know, affinity group and have to have that kind of stuff for white people.
That is a terrible idea.
It's a horrible idea, if only because the left is going to say, racist, and everyone's going to believe it.
And you're going to look like absolute, like straight up cross burning racists.
brett dasovic
And it's very hard to get rid of these programs because not only do they get employees like, like Donald Glover got hired at NBC for cheap because he was hired through like a diversity excellence program, right?
And it comes with great publicity because half their jobs are just going to these luncheons where they go to the, you know, and they go pat each other on the back and they lead to articles that are written in trade magazines.
So they get all this good publicity on top of hiring someone that's subsidized.
So it's very hard to get rid of those programs.
tim pool
In regards to white rights and all that stuff, I think it's a bad idea for... I agree with you, Phil, but at the same time, we're getting to a point where if you want to get into certain universities, they're giving benefits to people based on race.
And it's making it harder for... So look at it this way.
They want, at these universities, what they claim is called racial parity, where it's like, okay, so if the country's 13% black, 7% Asian, you know, whatever, that's what's gonna be in the schools, but that's not what's happening.
What's happening is they're giving, like, 20%, 20%, 20%, and so certain people of certain races are getting boosted up, certain races are getting pushed down, Asians especially are getting pushed down.
Don't be surprised, then, if you start seeing groups of people who claim to be white rights, and they're not white supremacists, There's a distinction.
A white supremacist is a person who thinks that their race is superior versus a white rights person who's making the argument like, hey, I'm a lower income carpenter and my kid wants to go to college and they're saying he can't.
Now you're going to get those people making those advocacy groups.
phil labonte
You were talking about the default left this morning today on one of the things.
The default left is going to hear that and they're going to think racist.
It doesn't matter.
I know, but that's going to make America worse.
tim pool
It's going to make people, it's like, Yeah, this is just to me dominoes falling over. Yeah, you're
not so you've already seen the Asian groups coming out because of Harvard and affirmative action
stuff. The SAT scores for like the average Asian has to be like you have to score like 1300 because
they're like, well, there's too many Asian people, which is, in my opinion, insane if you get if you
pass pass. And so yeah, you're going to start seeing more and more of these groups of people.
Maybe they'll try and mask it.
They'll call it like Irish affiliation or something like that.
But it's going to be some kind of white rights thing.
You're going to see lawsuits like this.
They're going to be called white supremacist.
But I will say, perhaps the reason we won't see those groups forming is because Republicans are too scared of the left.
So they won't call it that.
They'll call it America First Legal.
You know, I'm not arguing that America First Legal is fighting on behalf of white people.
I'm saying they're going to give it names like the American Pride, you know, rights organization or something like that.
brett dasovic
Even the word patriot has been turned into something that they find to be despicable.
They're synonymous with racism.
phil labonte
They're trying to do that with the Betsy Ross flag.
brett dasovic
Yeah, absolutely.
tim pool
They did that.
phil labonte
Well, they tried to.
unidentified
Who was it?
tim pool
Was it Colin Kaepernick who got that shoe booted off?
phil labonte
I think it was, yeah.
And it's like, I know there were people, I definitely responded with a picture of Barack Obama with the Betsy Ross flag behind him when he was inaugurated.
It's like, give me a break!
tim pool
Founding flag.
phil labonte
It's so ridiculous.
brett dasovic
I mean, they still do the same thing with the Gadsden flag, and you have to explain to them that it has nothing to do with that, that it was a revolutionary war.
tim pool
But they're lying on purpose.
They're just trying to trample over the things that remind people of what this country was founded upon.
The Gadsden flag is individuality, you know, and resisting tyranny, liberty, and things like that.
And they want to turn liberty into fascism.
They lie, cheat, and they steal.
That's what they do.
brett dasovic
And that's why they win, because they have no morals, and because they have no problem with breaking the rules if it means that they're... We were just talking about this today, okay?
They have race swapped, or they've made a colorist move for the casting of Lilo and Stitch.
It sounds off, but it tracks back.
Okay, so they casted a woman who is not Polynesian to play a character, to play Lilo's mom, Lilo and Stitch, right?
And they don't care, and the lady basically makes the argument.
She says, it's okay to race swap Ariel.
In the Little Mermaid, because it benefits black people to now have representation in this field, but it doesn't benefit a minority group if we do it this way.
They literally just admit it doesn't matter if we're being hypocritical.
phil labonte
Yes.
brett dasovic
We're right because our end goal is more righteous.
phil labonte
That's the logic of Herbert Marques.
That is the logic of the left.
brett dasovic
Yeah, exactly.
phil labonte
It's Herbert Marques.
Yes.
unidentified
Yeah.
I'm pretty sure that woman that got cast was actually Polynesian.
She's just, I think, Polynesian and part white.
So they were saying that she just wasn't dark enough for the character.
brett dasovic
She's Filipino, I believe.
I don't believe she's Polynesian, but she's born in Hawaii.
So she's, for all intents and purposes, that's why they're not calling it racist.
They're calling it colorist.
So it's different.
It's about shades, not about actual racial makeup.
phil labonte
So there's one thing that I want to point out, like people talk about, there was a lot of people talking about critical race theory and everyone was saying, oh, blah, blah, blah, you don't know what it was and it's not this or whatever.
One of the things that critical race theory talks about is having a critical consciousness awoken, a critical racial consciousness.
When you awaken a critical racial consciousness in white people, they essentially are saying, look, you should feel bad.
That's the whole White Fragility, the book makes that argument.
There's going to be an amount of people that are going to be like, well, I don't feel bad.
You know, and they're going to be like, well, okay, so now I'm going to have a white affinity group and I'm going to join it and I'm not going to feel bad.
And Jordan Peterson made this argument, you know, six, seven years ago that like, there's going to be a certain, if you focus on race all the time, which is the illiberal thing to do, the liberal thing to do, the, the, the enlightened mind ideas is that the individual matters.
If you focus on the individual, you'll be fine.
But if you focus on races, then races are going to start to do it more and more.
And it's, it, Ends up creating more and more segregation in your society.
It's a terrible idea.
brett dasovic
They hate focusing on the individual.
phil labonte
Yeah, they do.
unidentified
I mean, I feel like that's what they're already doing.
Because I always call critical race theory just critically looking for racism into everything.
Where we're told as young children, especially as a young black kid, you're told to look at the differences between you and the people next to you.
Instead of realizing like, oh, we have so much in common.
We have all these different cultural aspects that might be different, but they're cool.
We can learn about each other's cultures.
Instead, we're told to basically hate our neighbor, hate the person next to us, if they're not the same color as us.
I don't understand how anybody can feel that that is productive to put into the minds of kids, and you know it's not because these educators are hiding it in curriculum.
They're calling it all kinds of other things.
They're calling it ethnic studies, or sometimes they just call it something that has nothing to do with CRT, but they're still putting it in the curriculum.
tim pool
Well, let me ask you about your experience.
So, your story is, you were a Black Lives Matter activist, cast onto a reality show, started doing your research for the show, and then debunked yourself.
And now, what, do you consider yourself conservative, I guess?
unidentified
Yeah, I'd say conservative.
I have some things I lean libertarian on, but overall I'd say conservative.
tim pool
So how did this happen?
What is this?
unidentified
So basically, it was in 2020.
I was in the process for the show already when everything happened with George Floyd.
And then after that, they started wanting even more footage of just the things that I was working on as far as being a BLM activist, because I was doing it before it even blew up.
So in that process, I found a Candace Owens video actually on accident.
And I was so mad at what she said because she said, only in the black community do we
take our lowest common denominator and make that the forefront of our community.
So I was so enraged by that because I thought about it and I'm like, she's pretty much right.
So I started listing out like different PragerU videos I found because she was working heavily
with PragerU at the time.
And I just tried to debunk everything.
I was leaning towards being a socialist, even at that time, too.
So with socialism, with CRT, with cultural appropriation, just one by one, I'm watching these five-minute videos on PragerU.com, or I'm watching Candace Owens' videos, and I just realized, wow, I've been lied to about everything.
My entire perspective growing up black and feeling like I had to root my identity in my blackness was really just a sham, and it was taught to me for strategic purposes, is what I look back at it as.
tim pool
So what were some of the stuff you were working on as a BLM activist?
unidentified
What were you doing?
So I was online advocating a lot.
I wasn't a huge name as a BLM activist, but I was definitely helping organize some local events.
I was always posting on Instagram about, oh, this is racist.
This is what a microaggression is.
Pretty much teaching people to look at every single thing as racist.
And when I look back at those old videos and clips that I had, I just cringe.
tim pool
Oh, man.
brett dasovic
There's nothing—the left organizes so much better.
tim pool
Oh, yeah, yeah.
brett dasovic
Just infinitely better.
tim pool
But it was mainstream and popular, so it was easy, I'd imagine, right?
Like, you turn on the news, and they're telling you exactly what you want to hear.
unidentified
Well, 2020, it was.
It definitely wasn't 2020.
Before that, people were leaning towards my direction, or they couldn't tell me I was wrong, because they still, even before George Floyd, didn't want to be called racist.
But at the time, yeah, I didn't have much pushback, and I would have conversations with conservatives and people on the other side of the aisle, and it was interesting that I didn't get the hatred that I now receive being on the other side.
Like, being a conservative and trying to have these exact same conversations with liberals, they don't want to talk to me.
Or if they do talk to me, it's such an angry conversation that's so based in emotion that it's so hard to get logic into the conversation.
tim pool
So you're watching these Candace Owens videos.
You mentioned that she made the argument that the black community, how did you describe it?
unidentified
Lowest common denominator.
Yeah, we take the lowest common denominator and make that the forefront of our community.
You still see that today.
Look at people like Cardi B putting put on the pedestal that she's on.
That's terrifying.
You have a stripper who notoriously was drugging men and robbing them and doing all these different things.
And guess who decides to interview her?
Joe Biden.
Joe Biden wants to give her a platform because that's how he feels that he can reach the black and Hispanic communities.
And that's very telling on how the left views people of color that he went and got someone that was borderline illiterate to be the person to convey his different talking points.
tim pool
I do think it's fair to point out, though.
I think everybody elevates the lowest common denominator because it sells.
But that being said, I mean, if you compare Cardi B and Joe Biden, Joe Biden is corrupt and crooked and represents like the worst of American political class, as is Hillary Clinton.
And then here he is sitting with Cardi B.
I mean, I think, in that respect, I like Cardi B more than Joe Biden.
I mean, hasn't she come out and said some stuff that's actually fairly base?
brett dasovic
She did call out the Dalai Lama for the weird stuff about... Yeah, she did.
She did say that that was weird, so she's got that going for her.
tim pool
She said a couple different things.
Didn't she, like, call out taxes?
brett dasovic
Inflation.
tim pool
Inflation and stuff like that?
brett dasovic
Because she's like, my grocery bill has gone up by, like, 500%.
Yeah.
tim pool
I think she might just be, like, I think the issue is not so much Cardi B, but you're right in the elevation of like, lowest common denominator stuff.
Or I should say Candace Owens was right.
So what, when you heard that, that pissed you off because you didn't believe it or what?
unidentified
It did, because then I started thinking specifically about George Floyd at the time.
And when you look back at his character and the kind of person he was, and even just the tragedy of what happened to him, when you look back at all of that, what about him was worth putting him on murals, putting him on all these buildings when you drive through these cities?
People have tattoos of George Floyd.
There's probably going to be streets named after him if there aren't already.
brett dasovic
It's creepy.
I'm from Minnesota.
So I'm from that area, right?
And it's weird, too, because you think about it.
I'm like, if you get a tattoo of somebody like that, if you haven't at least done a cursory look into like their social media history, Like, you are owned by the media.
Like, if you're going to get somebody tattooed on you, or you're going to evangelize someone to that level, right?
You should, at the very least, have a general understanding.
You could make the argument that, look, I'm not tattooing him, I'm tattooing what his death represents.
You could make that argument.
I still think it's a bad argument, and it's weird, but you should at least look into what they're doing.
Most people aren't.
They just, they don't realize it, and they're not looking any deeper into it.
tim pool
You weren't religious, I'd imagine, then, were you?
unidentified
I am.
You were?
I always have been.
Oh, interesting.
But back then it wasn't as, like, devout as it is now.
tim pool
Yeah.
unidentified
It's definitely grown in the last couple years.
tim pool
You start to learn stuff.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I only ask because there was that mural of George Floyd on the wall that got struck by lightning and it was just the George Floyd part and I'm just like, doing that.
I don't know, man.
God is so good.
I don't know.
I'm not going to prescribe good, bad, or whatever.
It just happened.
I just love getting an opportunity to talk about this happening.
There was a building.
They painted this big mural on the whole wall.
Right in the middle was George Floyd.
And for some reason, lightning struck the wall and blew up the brick portion with just George Floyd on it.
And I'm just freaked out.
unidentified
People have to stop playing with God.
God's not here to play.
tim pool
That's crazy.
I mean, false idols or whatever you want to call it.
But I mean, to the point where people are tattooing George Floyd on themselves.
And yeah, look man, it's like, we can lament criminal justice and degradation of culture.
We can lament this dude was chewing on a speedball or whatever.
We can say it's upsetting that he died and all that stuff.
But to the point where people put tattoos on their body of this guy?
They build statues for him?
That's insane!
I mean, that's just crazy.
brett dasovic
Yeah, but people have done the same thing with Trayvon Martin and all that stuff.
So that's not going anywhere.
It's kind of what happens when the media becomes...
It's a cult, man.
Yeah, well, not that, but the media turns real life people and real life tragedy into
celebrity because you don't know where your television ends and where the actual news
story begins.
So real life people who have gone through real life experiences, whether good or bad,
are now the idols of certain people, especially people that are very, very aware of what's
going on in the news or think they are.
unidentified
I still don't think Trayvon Martin was the best comparison to George Floyd, though, even
though it's all under that BLM umbrella.
Like, there were similarities, like you said.
It's not started?
Yeah, of course.
Back in 2008, I believe.
tim pool
No, it was later than that.
12?
unidentified
12, was it?
tim pool
13?
2014, I thought.
unidentified
Well, 12 was Mike Brown.
tim pool
Yeah, I think it was 20... I think it was like 2013 or something?
phil labonte
I'm not sure about Trayvon, but I know that Mike Brown was 2012.
No, no, no.
tim pool
Mike Brown was 2014, I'm pretty sure.
unidentified
Yeah, but George Zimmerman, the person who killed Trayvon Martin didn't have any type of, I guess, just need to protect society.
I still feel like he's a pretty terrible person.
George Zimmerman himself has a really bad track record.
So I don't think it's as comparable with like, Derek Chauvin.
brett dasovic
Michael Brown would have been the better example of the one.
Yeah, that's, yeah, that's, that's the better example that I'm thinking.
But those those people, those real life people have now been turned into a form of celebrity.
That people worship, and whether you actually look into it, you have to do a lot of research if you're actually going to look into something like that.
tim pool
Well, let me ask you, so you're this activist, you're borderline socialist, they're gonna have you on TV, you start watching these videos, I imagine you quit the show, or you didn't go to them and be like, I got some things to say on this show, you know?
unidentified
It was a tough time.
I was mortified.
Everybody, when I tell this story now, they just view all the positive of it, but you have to think, this is months of just turmoil of all these different things that I believed in for so long.
Being exposed is just not legitimate.
But it got to October, and I was getting ready to fly to London, and I just had this powwow with myself.
I'm like, I can't do this.
I don't stand for any of this anymore.
So I called them, and I just pretty much told them it just wasn't for me.
tim pool
What did your friends and family think?
unidentified
I didn't tell too many people I was in the process, actually, because they were pretty strict on the NDAs.
tim pool
No, I mean, like, when you started discovering that a lot of the stuff you thought was not true, I imagine, like, you go to your friend and you're like... I have to imagine, because I've been there, where I'm hanging out at my friend's house, I'm in California, and they're, like, hanging around, like, drinking coffee, and then one of them just says something completely false.
And then it's, like, the first thing I think is, like, uh-oh.
What do I do?
You can't just come out and be like, you're wrong.
You know what I mean?
They're not going to take well to that.
They want to be an authority on this political ideology.
That's why they brought it up.
unidentified
Yeah, it was definitely interesting.
I had a combination of everything.
A lot of my friends kind of started to make the journey with me becoming more conservatives because they knew how passionate I was about BLM and all the liberalism I stood for.
So for me to look at it and be like, I don't know about this anymore, especially with everything happening with COVID and everyone's trust in every institution starting to be questioned, a lot of people started to just support me regardless of what it was that I stood for.
On the other hand, I had people completely excommunicate me, including family members.
I have a sibling I haven't spoken to in years that just deleted me off of everything, hasn't spoken to me, and I have friends who have done the same thing, but I don't even view them as real friends.
tim pool
I don't believe that actions like that Are related to like I think that's evidence to the fact they know you're right they to a certain degree that you're right they're driven by social acceptance not by fact or logic and so they're like you threaten their attempts to fit in so they have to remove you because we don't do that.
Like, the right tends not to do that.
I say tends not to because, you know, it's not absolute, but the libertarian, former liberal types, the conservative types are constantly trying to tell people, like, here's what I think and why, and the left is just more like, I don't want you to say what you think, you shouldn't be allowed.
unidentified
Yeah, I'd say that's really, really prominent in the Black community.
The Black community has a tendency to put each other in a box, and the second you step out of that box, or as Candace Owen says, escaping the Democratic plantation, it's a huge issue.
Just as far as the music you're allowed to like, the clothes you're supposed to wear, the way you talk, the way that if you speak too eloquently, you're insulted in a lot of areas in the Black community.
We're even told, like, I remember being a kid, I'm in this area full of agriculture, And I was bullied by my family because I was going to take an FFA class.
They talked me out of doing it.
They're like, you're black.
You can't be in an agriculture class, which is so wrong to begin with for so many reasons.
But black people tend to put the shackles on our own feet.
And I keep telling people within the community and outside the community that you have to stop allowing yourself to be forced into a category.
You have to be able to look at the bigger picture of the world and just identify who you actually are rather than be told who you are because of your skin color.
tim pool
Man.
So you made it though, huh?
PragerU hired you.
unidentified
I made it.
PragerU's been good to me.
brett dasovic
And that takes a lot of courage though, like to walk away from a support system like that.
In a lot of ways, those are the people that are structurally the most supportive to your upbringing in a lot of ways, right?
Like it's got to be very, very difficult to walk away from people that have been that instrumental in getting to you, you know, being a part of your life up until that point.
unidentified
Yeah, I just have to change my mentality.
I didn't walk away from them.
They walked away from me.
brett dasovic
So you have to accept when they're going to walk away from you.
unidentified
Yeah, of course.
It's just one of those things I realized that if I'm not willing to stand on truth and integrity, then what is it that I actually represent?
Because if you don't stand for anything, you fall for everything, right?
And I just want to be able to look myself in the mirror if I continue to advocate for these things just because I'm told to, rather than recognizing the research that I've done and going out and being like, you know what?
This is actually the truth.
I was wrong.
So many people are afraid just to get online and admit that they're wrong, or even just person to person, but humility is one of the greatest things that you can possibly have.
brett dasovic
And the media likes to shame doing your own research now.
You're not supposed to do your own research anymore.
That's very dangerous.
tim pool
We had Winston Marshall from Mumford & Sons on last week.
And so his story is, he reads books, and he had like no followers, but I mean Mumford & Sons is a huge band, no joke.
Look at their discography, it's like their first album hit number two Billboard, then every other album was number one when it released.
They were huge.
And so he tweets out like, just read Andy Ngo's book, very great, good work Andy Ngo, and they attacked him for it.
He basically is forced to issue an apology.
And then, I mean, this dude's amazing.
Shout out to this guy.
There's a reason why he was part of a band that rose to the top.
He said he didn't want to live the lie.
He couldn't live with himself knowing that he put up this fake apology.
He thought to himself, what am I going to do?
Go to all my friends and family and say, I believe this thing.
I don't actually believe.
I can't do it.
So he was like, he decided, you know what, fine.
To save his bandmates from this scandal and controversy and crisis, he's going to leave the band and then he's going to come out publicly, retract his apology and say, here's what I really think.
So they went after him.
He thought about it and said, Nah, he would rather be true to himself with all of the anger and hate around him than to live a lie.
I imagine that's it felt like kind of what you were conveying too.
unidentified
Yeah, for sure.
I have so much respect for that.
And I always tell people like to an extent you have to prioritize your peace.
So if you are not willing to be outspoken about everything that you believe in at least be willing to stand firm and stand against the things that you don't believe in.
Yeah.
Like, especially with things like when you're seeing all the kids going to drag shows.
You don't have to necessarily go out and just say, like, everything about your conservative values, but you at least have to look at something as foul as little children being at a drag show and being able to say, you know what?
We need to stop this.
There has to be some level of pushback.
tim pool
But isn't, I mean, I have to imagine, I'll put it this way, there's tropes about the black community actually being fairly conservative, right?
unidentified
Oh yeah.
tim pool
Not, like, the left would call it homophobic, call it whatever you want.
So I have to imagine this stuff doesn't go over well.
unidentified
Oh, it doesn't.
It doesn't at all.
I've been saying that for so long.
A lot of black people now, and this goes for pretty much every ethnicity, especially Hispanic and Asian communities, where there are so many conservative values that are just instilled in these minority groups as families, but they still continue to vote Democratic because they're told to.
Because if you ask so many of these people in these communities, why is it that you vote Democratic?
It's like, that's what I was told to do as a kid.
Yeah.
That's what my whole family does.
tim pool
I mean, I was told to.
I remember going with my family and I'm told like, so who am I voting?
Just Democrat all the way down.
And I'm like, well, okay, I guess.
brett dasovic
They have done such a Amazing job of branding the right as inherently racist, but not just that, as somehow the party of money, even though all evidence points to the contrary now that big business votes goes to the left now.
All of the corporations are behind leftist values.
But when you read these articles from these outlets, they talk about the right being the party of money.
Briefly.
I met her once.
It was like a really quick passing by, but we've met each other a few times.
because like you said, a lot of them aren't going to do the research necessary to actually go out and figure that out.
tim pool
Have you had a chance to talk with Candace Owens about all this?
unidentified
Briefly. I met her once. It was like a really quick passing by, but we've met each other a few times.
She's been super supportive of me.
tim pool
Yeah, I imagine that would be one heck of a conversation to be honest.
unidentified
Oh yeah, I can't wait till the time I get to just sit down and really pick her brain on things.
brett dasovic
What's funny about what you said about trying to debunk the PragerU five minute videos, those would be the hardest ones to debunk because it's literally a lot of them are just listed facts.
It would be like impossible to go through that.
You'd have to literally, if they were lying, they'd be like the most lies you've ever seen in a row because most of them are just, those are like a lot of my favorite videos that they did back Well, I recently just did, I did two PragerU five minute videos.
tim pool
Yeah, you did.
And I think, I don't know if they're both out yet, maybe one of them, but it was like specific references to things that happened.
And like the summary of the video is based on like, here's the thing that happened, here's what the media said, here's what the government responded with.
I think we talked about Mike Brown, Michael Brown, and how the activists said, hands up, don't shoot.
But then Obama's Justice Department said, actually, that's not true.
So it's who's lying, Obama or the activists?
phil labonte
Eric Holder was the AG and Obama was the president.
They investigated and found that Michael Brown did not have his hands up.
So I mean, it's clear that Michael Brown did not have his hands up.
That was a lie from day one.
tim pool
Let's talk about what's going on in Chicago.
We got this story from Fox News.
Teen takeover terrorizes Chicago as hundreds of teenagers destroy property and attack tourists.
brett dasovic
So Saturday?
tim pool
A weekend?
I mean, look, I'd love to go in on that joke with you, my friend, but no, no.
Worse than normal?
phil labonte
This is nuts!
tim pool
I've seen estimates of hundreds to thousands of teenagers romping through the city, jumping on cars, setting vehicles on fire, smashing windows.
Just today it was reported they tried breaking into the Art Institute.
phil labonte
It's only April, too.
tim pool
And it's only April.
I mean, summer's gonna get wild.
And it's happening in L.A.
So, I don't know.
The Art Institute, I have to imagine, has probably got billions of dollars worth of art in there.
And if they got in, it would have been like...
History being ransacked.
Apparently, I don't know how it went down, but they're trying to break in and two of the teens got shot.
Gunshots ring out, everyone scatters.
There's no reason.
This is not a protest.
They're not pissed off about anything.
This is just societal and cultural breakdown of people rampaging through the cities.
There's these videos.
I can't even play these videos for you on YouTube.
That's how crazy it is.
There's videos, there's a woman standing in a doorway at a building, doing nothing.
They run up, grab her, and just start mercilessly beating her for no reason.
Yo, it's getting crazy.
phil labonte
Just grabbed her by the head, and you could see people, like, you could see people just hooking her.
No reason.
Yeah.
brett dasovic
New mayor in charge yet?
tim pool
I don't think he's in charge yet, but I'm pretty sure he did come out and he said it's not constructive to vilify the group of rowdy teens that torched cars in Rampage organized on social media.
You know what though?
I mean, it's horrifying to see what's happening.
It's happening in LA too.
It's probably coming to a city near you.
But I gotta be honest.
I mean, I'm happy for the people of Chicago.
I'm very happy.
I mean, that woman?
I don't know her personally, but there's a very strong possibility she voted for this.
Look, so I'll put it this way.
Yeah, I know.
Nobody should be attacked.
It shouldn't happen.
And this lady is an individual.
I don't blame her for any of this.
But as a body of citizens, Chicago has been under Democrat control for over a hundred years.
And this, all of this stuff.
So you made the joke another Saturday?
brett dasovic
Yeah.
tim pool
Because of the perception of what Chicago is?
Having grown up there, I've certainly seen similar things to this, but never this bad.
And at this point now, I'm like, I'm not surprised.
This is the trajectory of the city.
You keep voting for this stuff over and over again.
Don't be surprised.
The new mayor-elect says, don't demonize them.
It's not constructive.
unidentified
I don't understand how anybody could be shocked that this is happening in Chicago.
I mean, there's already a culture that looting and rioting has no consequences.
There hasn't been accountability in that city in a very long time.
You can even see what the mayor-elect is saying doesn't take accountability.
And the other part of his statement, I read that he was saying something along the lines of how you can't blame these kids because this is a city that doesn't have enough opportunities for them.
It is the left's fault that there's not opportunity there because why would any company want to be located in Chicago where they're going to have their buildings burned down, they're going to be robbed, there's going to be shootings every day, they're losing money, but then you're upset when they leave Chicago even though you've done nothing to protect them.
You're always demonizing them.
You're always saying that they need to pay more in taxes.
You have not made the city of Chicago a place that any business would want to be or a place that any business could survive.
And now you're shocked that the kids there, quote unquote, don't have enough opportunity.
tim pool
It's not on purpose.
brett dasovic
And this was happening during 2020 riots in Minnesota, right?
Businesses would get looted and shut down or bricks through the window and then stores that people need to go to, to be able to get supplies, things that actually matter, you know, whether it's groceries, things like that, you know, baby formula.
And then nobody can get to them for days at a time while they're either repairing what's going on there or they're just simply waiting out the riots to end and nobody, it doesn't ever click in their brain that in a lot of ways when you live in the city, I wasn't even living in Minneapolis at the time.
I was in the outskirts.
I was in West St.
Paul and this stuff was still happening.
And you understand that this is going to keep happening unless you learn to vote in people who are willing to put into place different policies.
Or at the very least, keep them in jail and not just let them out on bail right away.
tim pool
That's what they're doing.
unidentified
And if you look back at the old videos of the looting and rioting that happened, look very closely at those videos.
You will be hard-pressed to find someone stealing eggs or a pack of chicken Or something that they need to put food on the table or even blankets for their kids to stay warm.
No, they're selling TVs.
They're selling AirPods.
They're selling all these things that they don't need and saying it's in the name of reparations.
But they're not doing this for anything productive.
It's just complete selfishness with no accountability.
tim pool
Remember when AOC said they're looting because they need bread?
And everyone's like, have you seen a video of them looting?
Dude, they're stealing shoes.
You can argue they need shoes, but like, they're stealing good shoes.
unidentified
And the counters are still full of bread!
Nobody even took the bread!
tim pool
They walked past the bread!
brett dasovic
Did you see the video of the lady who asked for the thousand dollars and said, this is my Rosa Parks moment at the Target?
tim pool
What?
unidentified
No.
brett dasovic
Okay.
Did you see this?
unidentified
No.
brett dasovic
Okay, so this lady basically says, like, she wants to get her stuff for free and starts, like, harassing the lady who works at the Target or whatever.
And the security guard, she starts yelling at the security guard and backs the security guard up into his office and the dude just knocks her out.
unidentified
Wow.
brett dasovic
And then she got arrested because she got in everyone's face and got physical.
tim pool
This is where we're going, man.
And she called it her Rosa Parks moment and said that the groceries for reparations for I feel like all of these policies put forth by Democrats are actually intended to harm Democrats.
And then you get these Democrat voters being like, for some reason Republicans keep voting against their own interests.
And it's like, dude, the social welfare policies are actually ruining the economic standards, ruining families, making things worse.
They want you to sterilize and abort your kids.
I don't think they like you very much.
I think their policies are intent on making your life worse.
And you look at what's going on in Chicago, and when this guy says, when this mayor, like, says, don't, this is Brandon Johnson, don't demonize these teenage boys, two of them, 16 and 17, were shot!
And he's like, well, you know, they, it's almost like they want this stuff to happen.
Bad things to all the people of this city.
But you know what, man?
unidentified
I can't be mad about it, because they voted for it.
tim pool
So it's like, if you're a conservative, or a moderate, and you live in Chicago, I guess at this point I'm like, I'm sorry that this is happening to you, I guess.
But like, you're choosing to live in a city where all of this stuff is going down.
And I know people always say, oh, but it's like, you don't understand, I don't have the money, I can't move, it's too hard.
The example that I give is, if your house was on fire, you wouldn't stop and think, well, I could leave, but I have nowhere else to go.
No, you run out the door.
You stand barefoot outside thinking, what do I do now?
So these people who are saying like, I can't get out of Chicago, all you're really telling me is the fire hasn't reached your house yet.
unidentified
You can't convince me that the left is not a death cult, because everything that they stand for, both legislatively and ideologically, just relate to the demise of society.
Whether it's obesity, whether it's how hard they push for abortion, whether it's allowing all these crimes and murders to happen in the cities.
Everything that you look at with them leads to depopulation, or it leads to just less people happening.
Even everything with same-sexes, like they don't even want these to heterosexual couples to be able to have kids.
They're wanting to sterilize kids with the trans stuff.
Everything that the left does leads to death.
Has anybody else noticed that?
tim pool
Yeah, and that's why I was saying, like, I don't think they like you very much.
Like, you go to your politician and the Republican guy says, hey man, you should have more kids.
It's like, okay, he's basically telling you to survive.
He likes you.
There should be more of you.
These Democrats go, have you considered aborting that baby?
And it's like, that's something you would say to someone you don't like.
Like you go to, if there's like these two women, right, imagine there's two women, and one woman is pregnant, and they hate each other's guts.
Yeah, one woman's gonna go to the other one and be like, abort your kid.
Like, that's not a nice thing to say to somebody.
phil labonte
They'll probably call themselves humanists as well.
They'll say we are secular humanists, and they'll tell you that they believe that they want good things for the human race, but they want fewer humans.
brett dasovic
It's not that they dislike you, it's that they like the planet more.
Therefore, they want the planet to survive, because humans, according to them, are basically a blight.
tim pool
Dude, look at this video.
Look at this video.
This is Compton, California gas station, and these street takeovers have been happening all over the city, where people are just smashing their way in.
Just, that's it.
Welcome to life in Los Angeles.
And this is similar to Chicago.
The crazy thing is, there's like this video of one dude just like smacking a bunch of condoms off a shelf into the air.
And it's like, he's not looting, dude.
It's not even ransacking.
It's just, it's rampage.
phil labonte
And all it takes is one person that decides they want to be violent.
Like, they could be all looters except for one dude that's just like, all right, I'm gonna go in there and I'm gonna break the guy, you know, the person working behind the counter's face open.
brett dasovic
And those type of agitators end up at those types of events on purpose.
phil labonte
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Because they get the opportunity.
It's like people talk about, um, people talk about, you know, the church when priests that are molesting kids or whether it's schools and stuff, the thing is they go where the access is.
Predators go where the access is.
So predators are going to go to where people are rioting.
So that way, if they want to be violent for no reason, they're going to go where the riots are.
tim pool
This is a story from Ferguson.
When I was on the ground, and the hardcore fans of TeamCast have heard me tell the story a billion times, so bear with us for those that didn't hear it.
Simple version is, a bunch of young black men linked arms to protect the liquor store that Michael Brown had stolen the cigarillos from.
And when they were interviewed by a guy from Al Jazeera, he's like, why are you protecting the store?
They said, the people who are looting and burning down these stores don't live here.
Our community is being destroyed right now.
I remember out watching across the street a bunch of people ran and smashed windows, started stealing stuff from a bunch of stores.
And the locals who lived there were begging for help to stop the rioting.
But people from other neighborhoods said, now's our chance, and came in and started stealing and destroying things.
And then leftists wrote an article saying, in defense of looting.
And all of these white liberals come out and said, the reason that they're rioting and looting in their own neighborhood is because they're resisting the bourgeoisie and the elites.
And I'm like, bro, I was there.
The people who live there were begging for help to stop the looting of their neighborhood.
Like, nobody wants their gas station burned down.
Nobody wants their local food court burned down.
It's the people who don't live there who are stealing everything they can and then fleeing, and the left was coming in and cheering for it.
phil labonte
And people who don't live there making excuses for the people that are coming into town stealing.
tim pool
I gotta say, I really do think that a lot of these liberal leftist types are actually overtly white supremacist and just pretending not to be.
Because think about what they've done.
Remember that video where the two white women are vandalizing property in a black neighborhood?
And the two black girls are like, stop destroying our neighborhood!
And like, don't worry, we're doing it for you.
Like, come on, man.
Take the context out of this and say, just go up to any leftist, any of your liberal friends, not leftists, but like a liberal friend and say, if you saw two white people destroying a black neighbor, what would you think?
Because I'll tell you what a conservative would think, like, oh, Antifa again, huh?
Because we get it, because people on the right, people libertarian, I don't mean to imply I'm conservative, I'm saying people who are post-liberal, who are libertarian, freedom faction I like to call it, have been paying attention to the news and see this incessant white liberal rampaging in black neighborhoods that happened especially in 2020.
And then they come out and they say, we're here to support you, and then they burn down your grocery store.
Yeah, sorry, I don't believe you.
I think you might just be a white supremacist in the classical sense.
phil labonte
They destroy your neighborhood and they run off businesses, but they are here to help, guys.
tim pool
When they write a book called In Defense of Looting, I think it's a book now.
Yeah, it is.
I gotta think that you're actually just a white supremacist who wants to go and ruin the... You know, they talk about the bombing of Black Wall Street.
You familiar with this?
Was it Tulsa, I think it was?
unidentified
I believe so.
tim pool
And what am I supposed to think about what they're doing?
When you see two white women destroying black businesses and they say, don't worry, we're doing it for you.
I'm kind of like, I don't know.
It feels a whole lot like that, you know, what Democrats have always done.
You know, I just don't believe you.
And here we are today.
This is what they do.
They claim they fight for you, but they actively harm you.
Not that Republicans are doing a whole lot for Republicans, mind you, but still.
unidentified
One of the weirdest things back when I was in the BLM culture and at some of these protests,
I would, and to be clear, I never looted and I never rioted.
I always thought that was insane, but I would try to point out some of the things that were
really weird to me. Like, when I would watch the looting happening, I would watch it on Twitch,
and I would see white, I'm assuming Antifa members, breaking into these buildings in these
predominantly black neighborhoods.
And I would ask myself, I'm like, why are white people going in and destroying these black-owned Businesses, and then saying that it's for racial justice.
I didn't understand it, but when I would bring those type of things up at the rallies, people would turn to me and be like, oh, either you're all in or you're all out.
Like, I would just be shut down.
Like, it was not a conversation.
When I would bring up like, there's so many white people here, it's like, how many of them are stealing and saying it's in the name of reparations?
It was the weirdest thing to me that nobody was willing to actually point out all the black communities being destroyed.
tim pool
Yeah.
brett dasovic
Is part of that just because they feel like they need to organize and they need to do something, therefore, if they're not allowed to criticize it, they just have to accept it for them?
unidentified
Well, I think that's definitely a big part of it.
And I think part of it was they knew that what they were fighting for wasn't as concrete as they wanted it to be.
So the second you start poking any holes into BLM and that entire narrative that the woke
left had and still has, things start to crumble apart.
So they don't want any holes poked in it at all.
You have to believe in every single thing that they say or you're kicked out of the
cult.
brett dasovic
And they shut you down if you do try to speak about it anyways.
unidentified
Absolutely.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, you see that currently there's a kerfuffle on the left about Anna Kasparian.
She made some remarks about her disliking birthing people.
tim pool
She doesn't want to be called a birthing person.
phil labonte
Yeah, I think that was the phrase.
tim pool
Or a person with a womb.
brett dasovic
Shocking!
phil labonte
I caught a stream.
Sitch and Adam were doing a stream.
They were covering a bunch of left Left-leaning people some people from the serfs and Matt Bender was on there and they were they were just tearing her down Like just saying she's not allowed to say this like really making it clear that it was unacceptable that she had stepped out of line and hadn't had Express a dissenting opinion
It's just absolutely a guess, and they went on and on, and apparently there was two different streams where these five or six people were going at her.
So it's not a surprise to hear that at all.
And it's something that I think that the left has a significant problem with, the fact that you can't have a dissenting opinion.
tim pool
We're gonna have one of those guys on the show, I think, not this week, maybe in a week or two.
A big lefty Twitter personality.
brett dasovic
I think one of the reasons that is, too, is because the media tends to parrot their beliefs right back at them, because they believe the same thing that the media believes.
So they're never challenged on a daily basis.
If you are center-right or libertarian, Your views are constantly challenged by the media you take in.
You know, if you're taking in any type of mainstream media, you're having your viewpoint challenged.
You might think they're wrong and most of the time they are, but you're at least being given opposing viewpoints on a regular basis.
And if you don't, if you're not used to hearing that, that's a lot of times shocking and that's where the emotional responses tend to come in.
phil labonte
Yep.
tim pool
Yep.
Let's, uh, let's, I was waiting to jump to this story.
So this one is, uh, this is a sad tale.
A sad tale from our good friend Hank Green.
Now if you don't know Hank Green, he's one of the OG YouTubers.
And, uh, he tweeted this.
Which universe is the better one?
One with humans?
One without humans?
Well I voted for the one with humans because I'm human and I live here.
But, uh, 41.1% said one without humans.
He responded.
I keep trying to do other versions of this poll, thinking that there's something wrong with the question.
But it really does seem like 40% of you think humans shouldn't exist.
And I find that so deeply outside of my perspective, that I need to do a lot of thinking.
He then added a little bit later, I feel like if an AI was like, quote, I'm 40% sure the universe without humans would be better, we'd be pretty worried.
Here's the funny thing.
These people don't get it.
People like Hank Green.
He's a default liberal.
He's surrounded by default liberals and leftists.
They hate human beings.
So you were just mentioning it earlier that it seems like, you know, a lot of their policies are actually just to harm you.
And I was mentioning something similar.
Yeah, here's the easy way to explain it.
Hank Green's audience, probably swinging much more left, he's like a VidCon guy, he's a major mainstream personality with, you know, so liberals probably follow him 80-90%.
If you're a Democrat politician and you see a poll like this, you know what that means?
You're going to cater to the people who don't like human beings.
So you're out there campaigning and you're like, look, Half of these people are really concerned about their right to abortion because they have a lot of loose sex with a lot of men.
And they want to be able to get abortions if they get pregnant.
Fine.
The other half just don't want humans to be alive anymore.
Same solution to both problems.
Certainly then the Democrats are going to advocate for that.
brett dasovic
It's a lot of the same people who have been consuming a lot of nihilistic propaganda on social media for years about climate change.
Every type of human invention that's ever been created is destroying the environment.
Everything we've ever done and succeeded is in some way been reframed as a negative for the human experience.
And I actually, what you were talking about earlier about social media and how they will sometimes mess with the algorithm.
I get that on Sundays.
I swear, on Instagram, Sundays become the most nihilistic place ever on Instagram.
It's nothing but the world is going to end in 10 years, manufacturing is destroying the world, and it's all this.
And they consume that content all the time.
And they've been led to believe that this type of hatred of humanity isn't just good, but something to be valorized.
tim pool
And you know what they do?
They complain about how there's like a great extinction phase happening and how humans are, the human actions are killing off all of these different forms of life, but they never stop to talk about the strange scientific experiments we're doing to bring life back, like trying to clone a woolly mammoth or pulling ancient viruses out of the ice sheets and resurrecting them.
phil labonte
These are all great ideas.
unidentified
These are all great ideas that humans are doing.
brett dasovic
Actually, when people saw that stuff during COVID, they're like, maybe you shouldn't.
Maybe you should just not bring stuff out of the ice caps until we know for sure it's going to hurt.
tim pool
But simply put, it really does feel like, you know, everyone's always trying to figure out what the divide is.
Like, I've seen people say it's nationalist versus globalist.
And it's like, that's a component of that.
And I think it's algorithmic cult versus independent thought.
But there is a component of humans are good and humans are bad.
There is a component of, you know, God is real and there is no God.
And if you're a nihilist and you think nothing matters, there's no morality and everything is subjective, why would you want humans to be around at all?
It's like Doctor Manhattan in Watchmen when he was like on Mars and he's like, would any of this be made better by humans?
And the answer is yes, it would be!
I mean, at least from a human perspective because that's what we are and that's what we strive for, the feelings and experiences of being human.
I mean, I don't know, I was watching this little bird build a nest the other day and I'm like, I wonder what bird society must be like.
Do you think they're like, you know, life is good, life is bad, do you think they get depressed?
brett dasovic
I think a lot of this for a lot of the best way to describe this for me the best experience that I've had knowing that people are very nihilistic right now is when we had sunshine in like January or February it was like really nice out and people like well it's because of climate change but we might as well enjoy it while we're here.
tim pool
Yeah.
I mean, it didn't snow.
brett dasovic
No, we got like none this year.
tim pool
None.
And I was talking to some old guy, he's like, that's the first time, he's like 60 years old, he's like, it's the first time in my life I didn't get any snow.
And I'm like, oh, that's kind of crazy.
But of course, the issue is not so much about whether or not there's snow, it's about whether or not humans are the direct impact.
And so, you know, what I see are causing the crisis, what I see with the left is like, One without humans.
What would this planet be without humans?
It would just be a moist ball of rust?
Some kind of exotic rust on it?
Oxidization process?
unidentified
And you know, these people that vote to say that the world would be better without humans are the exact same people with the exact same mentality about America.
They live in America as if they have to be, and then they're so anti-American, they're always saying that they want to see the downfall of America, but where is better?
brett dasovic
Yeah.
They never actually give you an answer, not usually.
phil labonte
No, it's parts of places that exist.
They want an a la carte society where they can say, this is good in this place, this is good in this place, this is good in this place, so let's take all these things and bring them here.
They imagine that they can just manufacture the society if they just say, these are the things that we want and we'll just bring them here.
And it's as if the people that are involved don't matter at all.
And it's the blank slate applied to societies.
Societies have cultures.
Societies have history.
Societies have different values from one society to another.
So you can't just replicate the good things about one society in your society without having some kind of negative consequences or unforeseen consequences at least.
I think that it's a lot of the idea that it is as simple as just, well, that works over there, so how come it doesn't work over here?
It was the same mistake that we made when we went to Iraq.
The idea that we could just implement democracy in Iraq.
Like, oh, just get rid of the strong arm guy and we'll make a democracy and it'll work fine.
And that's not the way that people work.
brett dasovic
The CIA's been doing that for years now.
We're bringing democracy all over the place.
phil labonte
We're working awesome.
brett dasovic
It's really simple.
Is the glass half full or is the glass half empty?
I've noticed and this was long before I became politically aware hate this like seemed to have a if not a hatred of
this country They're embarrassed to be from here and I never understood
tim pool
it. It's really simple is the glass half full or is the glass half empty?
You know, are you are you excited that there is water in your water bottle or are you like angry because it's half
gone?
brett dasovic
The glass is racist.
unidentified
I'm just glad that I can drink the water here.
tim pool
But this is this is this is like I guess the thing may like the real divide may be optimism versus pessimism.
If you look at the history of the United States, you can look at it a bunch of different ways.
You can be honest and say there's a lot of really awful stuff and a lot of really good stuff.
Or you can be angry and just say, this country is bad no matter what.
It's all bad, period.
It's born of bad.
It's bad.
It's bad.
That's stupid.
And that's depressive.
So these people are nihilistic.
Half of them probably just want to burn everything down because they hate humans.
The other half refuse to seek out the good because there's something wrong with them, I guess.
You know, I look back at American history and if someone comes to me and says, do you know what the Americans did to the Native Americans?
And you know, in this place, in that place, and I'll be like, oh yeah, I read about that.
That's awful.
I can't believe they would do that.
And then it's like, do you also know about the good things this country has done over the past several hundred years as we've dramatically improved upon all of those things and got to the point where you have now been educated in publicly funded institutions explaining, we think those are bad things.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Think about the college student who's like, America is awful and racist.
I learned that at a publicly funded university.
The government's paying you so you can learn about how we don't like those things anymore and they still think this country is a problem.
I think the end result is just the left will cease to exist.
You know, they try to indoctrinate your kids, the only thing they can do, but it's not working.
And then the right is going to just have a bunch of babies and then 20 years, you know, there we go.
brett dasovic
You don't think it's working?
tim pool
Like the education stuff?
brett dasovic
I'm saying that you don't think that the indoctrination from the left is working in my eyes?
No, it's not working.
You don't think so?
Uh-uh.
Why?
tim pool
So, for one, shows like this, we consistently have like the highest live viewer count on YouTube, which is a good sign.
You can see like the Budweiser backlash, the view being desperate.
Obviously, there is leftist indoctrination.
It is very strong.
But I'm speaking specifically referring to kids.
It is, in my opinion, not working.
brett dasovic
Okay.
tim pool
So, simply put, when parents realize what's happening at their schools, start pulling their kids out, when there is now a national conversation around school choice and getting kids out of public schools and moving away from these places, it didn't work.
And what I mean, ultimately, is I think conservatives are going to have more kids.
Those kids are more likely to be conservative.
They're going to learn from their parents.
The parents are waking up, not all of them, but many of them are waking up to what's going on in schools.
The left is beginning to fail with places like Florida and other states reforming these laws and banning this stuff.
It may lead to hyperpolarization, but ultimately, if you're advocating, if there were two countries, And they were at odds with each other.
And on one side they were saying, have more babies!
Have more babies, discipline yourself, strengthen yourself, eat right, exercise.
And the other country was saying, be as fat as you want!
Abort your children and sterilize them!
Would there be any question to which country would cease to exist in 20 years?
None whatsoever.
So just because we are the United States doesn't mean to me that there is a mesh here.
Clearly the hyperpolarization is so pronounced that the left and the right are at such fundamental odds that they may as well be two different countries to the point where people are advocating for national divorce.
And then what do you see?
Give it over a long enough period of time.
Math is just math.
People who don't have kids tend not to exist in several generations.
People who have kids tend to pass on their ideas.
brett dasovic
Then you gotta get those kids out of our state-run colleges.
Because I think we can raise all the conservative kids we want, but if we send them to public schools where they will later be indoctrinated further into those ideologies, I don't know if it matters.
I think you have to start at the elementary, you know, at the school level, and then all the way up to colleges you have to reform And not allow those kids to be constantly flooded with the same type of propaganda that we're seeing now.
tim pool
But I think we're moving in that direction.
I think the left, everybody likes to talk about, I shouldn't say everybody, but there are prominent individuals talking about universities and the leftist ideology and how it's spread and all that.
But it was never that strong until 2011, 2012.
I think it's when social media algorithms, it was 2008.
phil labonte
It was never that strong in the US.
tim pool
Well, no, around the world.
Social media algorithms made every country on the planet basically see this massive spike in these conversations.
However, I think that was bad for them.
I think if they had maintained the quiet edge and slow-rolled this ideology over a long period of time, they'd have won.
Instead, the algorithms slapped everybody in the face with the most insane versions of these ideologies that now people are pushing back on at universities, are starting to get heat because of it, and people are hyper-polarizing.
unidentified
I agree with that.
I think for a while the left was starting to win with their indoctrination, but the pendulum is starting to shift back over to the right because what's happening is the left continues to get more radical.
They're going further and further right while the right is just sitting in the same place.
Sorry, yeah, the left is getting further and further left and the right is just sitting there just trying to be sane.
And I always tell people, if you want to help influence people to do more research or to maybe reconsider their mentality, you don't even have to go deep into like policies and politics.
Just talk about the culture.
Like, have you seen the things with these naked education shows where There's all these shows where they're getting naked in front of children.
There is no sane person in existence that's going to look at that and not think that it's foul.
So when you present that and you're like, well, guess which side supports this?
And it's all for this.
They start to question their own mindset.
phil labonte
I want that stuff to be spread around as much as possible.
I want as many parents to see that kind of stuff as possible.
tim pool
I wanna pull up this tweet here.
We got this from Scott Galloway.
He said, Are you referring to yourself, sir?
Of one-fourth Republicans think all drag shows should be banned.
Living in another century, question mark?
Are you referring to yourself, sir?
I don't know what sent or another dimension.
I am not surprised that there are a quarter of Republicans saying no drag shows.
That surprises me in no way.
We're referring to the 90s or something?
Other century?
But let me show you how crazy this poll is.
So here's what it says.
Who should be allowed to attend drag shows?
The purple says they should be allowed for everyone.
The blue is restricted to people 18 and older.
And there's not sure, and then for orange, they should be banned.
Among all U.S.
adult citizens, 25% say children should be allowed to attend, 50% say 18 and up only, 12% are not sure, and 14% say ban it all.
Now among Democrats, around 40% of Democrats think children should be allowed to attend sex shows.
That's what it is.
Drag is basically LGBT burlesque.
You wouldn't put a kid, you wouldn't bring a kid to a go-go dancer club, you wouldn't bring your kid to a burlesque show.
That's what they're saying.
However, 40% of Democrats, cause it's 39, whose age should have kids, 40% of Democrats say 18 and up only.
This is the popular position.
In fact, 8% of Democrats want it banned for everyone.
Okay, let me stress that again.
8% of Democrats are like, no drag shows allowed for anyone.
Who are those Democrats?
I gotta ask you.
brett dasovic
I was gonna say, like, where are they?
That's like a magical unicorn of a person, I guess.
What, like old blue dog Democrats that still believe in gun rights?
tim pool
And then you have, among independents, it reflects basically what you see among all U.S.
adults.
26% say kids should be allowed to attend sex shows, 52% think it should be 18 and up, and 9% say that it should be banned outright.
And among Republicans, this one is also the unicorn.
This has got to be the margin of error.
8% of Republicans think children should be allowed to attend sex shows.
58% of Republicans say 18 and up only.
25% of Republicans say banned outright.
Look at that divide.
Four, nearly four, four in ten Democrats think children should be allowed to attend sex shows.
If that persists, I just kind of think Democrats probably won't be a political party for a lot longer because they're at odds with the general public to a great degree.
And independent voters, I think regular people, you show them what's going on in these videos, they, first of all, they don't believe it.
I was talking to people about that video of the guy pulling the baloney out of his crotch with a zipper and the gay men thrusting into each other.
I was talking to a friend and I was like, yeah, but look, we're not talking about, like, just someone in a costume reading a book.
We're talking about children having a dude in a thong perform, like, a striptease dance.
Or, uh, like on Bill Maher, when it was, um, Winsome Sears from Virginia, Lieutenant Governor, saying, like, look, it's about what parents want their kids to be involved, like, be or not be involved in.
She's like, I don't want my kid getting a lap dance from a drag queen.
And then Bill Maher goes, well, okay, they're reading books.
I don't think they're giving lap dances.
She goes, yes, they are.
It's like, well, I must have missed this.
And she goes, Bill, you need to read more.
And then everyone laughs because Bill Maher doesn't read the news.
You show that to the average person, like you were saying about sanity, and they're going to be like, well, I didn't know I was supporting that.
Yeah, in North Carolina, a drag queen gave a lap dance to a child.
And we got, you know, Ian bought the book Genderqueer.
Not even conservatives are reading that book.
And they really should.
That's funny.
Conservatives are like, I've seen enough.
I know it's bad.
Oh, you don't even know the half of it.
You should read it.
So I think regular people are probably going to see this and just, if we can show them, they're going to be like, yeah, I'm out.
brett dasovic
And the hard part is then getting them out of their algorithm because their algorithm is only going to show them what they want to be seeing.
So they're not going to be seeing any of that content on their social media platforms or anywhere.
A lot of the people, when I would explain that these things were going on, would be like, that sounds ridiculous.
I don't know if that's actually happening.
phil labonte
Nobody believes.
brett dasovic
No, they don't believe it.
phil labonte
When you tell people what the cutting edge of leftist thought is, people are like, no.
Every single time I tell any average kind of like Democrat person, oh, this is what's coming out of sociology departments right now.
This is the cutting edge of leftist thought.
They're like, no way.
No one will believe it.
tim pool
We really want to get Bill Maher on this show.
And there's been conversations recently about me going on Bill Maher's show.
Bill Maher's gonna be in D.C.
in five days.
He's doing, uh, he's doing a stand-up.
He's doing stand-up at the MGM National Harbor.
And that's on a Saturday.
And I'm just thinking, you know, a Friday night, it's the perfect opportunity to promote your show, Bill.
Should have you on the show.
No, I'm a big fan of Bill Maher speaking out against the stuff he's learning about.
I just wish, with his platform, he knew more.
And I think it would be one of the most epic conversations to be sitting here with him.
Because we have this big, these big monitors.
And when he's like, I don't know about them giving lap dances, I'm like, oh, Bill.
unidentified
Well, let me let me pull the video up for you and press play and then we'll just play it right here And I'll watch it and he'll be like, okay, you're right You know, I always ask the people who are in support of children being able to go to drag shows and like oh, it's educational What are they learning?
Are they learning life skills to get naked and twerk in front of other children?
Like what is beneficial for a child to go there?
It's literally a show that it's about explicit over-the-top sexual actions.
tim pool
It's burlesque.
It's it's like it's sexualized comedy It's a clown show, I guess.
phil labonte
The fact that it's always sexualized, like there's no drag show that isn't sexualized.
So people that make the argument, oh, kids really should be able to get into this.
I don't understand how they justify it, just because of the fact that it is clearly sexualized.
brett dasovic
They justify it by saying it's teaching them about inclusion.
That it's teaching them that people with alternative lifestyles exist and they're not bad people.
Therefore, you can send your kids to these shows and nothing's going to happen to them.
It's fine.
It's about inclusion.
phil labonte
That's unacceptable because it's unacceptable to send your kids to Chippendales or to the strip club with the boobies.
brett dasovic
To them, they don't think past the first stage of the argument.
It is about inclusion!
tim pool
How much do you want to bet Bill Maher's never seen the video of the child strippers?
phil labonte
It's not going to lick itself?
Sign on the wall?
tim pool
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, when that little boy was ripping his clothing off on stage
and at a gay bar while they handed money to him.
I bet he's never seen it.
And that one's from like 2018.
Like this stuff's been going on for a long time.
And the problem is specifically people like Bill Maher don't read the news.
They're like, all of this stuff is happening around the country.
And obviously corporate press covers up.
I was reading about the Budweiser story in the Washington Post, and they lied about everything.
Surprise, surprise.
They said, the boycott's not clear if there's been any impact at all, and it's like, Anheuser-Busch put out a commercial and issued a statement.
Clearly, something's got them worried.
And their stock has gone down.
And they're like, well, it's not clear.
It's like, okay, that's...
That's an argument, but on a news report, you can argue, since the controversy started, Anheuser-Busch stock has dropped by five points or whatever.
But they don't mention that.
And then they said the whole controversy started over a single can of beer, a promo can with Dylan Mulvaney on it, and I was like...
Yeah, and the video of Dylan Mulvaney drinking Bud Light being a brand ambassador and dancing, and the estimates that Dylan received 50k or whatever for doing it.
I don't know if that's true or whatever, but people are upset that Budweiser in any way supported this person.
It's not about a single can of beer.
But they need to lie, diminish and downplay, so they can keep these people trapped in a box.
And unfortunately, people like Bill Maher doesn't read the news.
brett dasovic
The Nike videos were worse.
Those were actually like, looks like he's making fun of women.
tim pool
They all.
brett dasovic
He always is.
The Nike ones to me were even more ridiculous.
tim pool
And I always really want to stress this too.
Dylan Mulvaney is not trans.
Like, you can't just say, like, what if Donald Trump came out right now and was like, my fellow Americans, I am now a woman.
I am the first female president.
Donna.
Donna Trump.
And they would say, no, he's not.
He's lying, right?
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
So why?
Look, Simply put, they would say, Donald Trump is lying, he's not trans.
There's no way anyone would believe that if Trump came out as trans, anyone would support him.
phil labonte
And even if he actually was, like, legit, was like, no, I've been hiding this all my life, and he really believed it, they would still say, no, you're not.
They would deny forever, no matter what.
tim pool
So why should I assume, or just give that benefit of the doubt to someone like Dylan Mulvaney, who, I'm gonna say it again, hiking heels?
Putting on high heels in the forest is not something that women or trans people do.
It was a clown show comedy performance intended to mock.
It was literally making fun of women.
It was an adult male dressing like a woman, claiming to be a girl, putting on high heels and running through the woods and then getting scared of a bug.
That is like the most offensive woman-face performance you could do.
unidentified
You took the words out of my mouth.
I was just about to say this is essentially blackface for womanhood.
And I've seen this clip before where Dylan was saying how this initially started as either comedy or satire.
I can't remember the exact word to use, but he has known from the beginning that this was not a serious thing, but he's turned it into a serious thing because it's become so profitable.
And the algorithm on TikTok is so aggressive with it because I don't follow Dylan.
I've never liked a single video of Dylan's.
I've never saved or commented on a video of Dylan's.
But I will get notifications on my phone from TikTok saying that Dylan Mulvaney just posted a new video.
And because, and I have screenshots of it too, and because of that, there's going to be an entire generation of people growing up that are going to have mental health crisis all because of Dylan Mulvaney's risistardom.
tim pool
This is Elsagate 2.0, that's why I describe it as such.
The algorithm just picks things, props them up, and they get weirder and crazier.
So it's not just that it sees what you like and then makes more of it.
It's that it doesn't know what the difference is between what you like and something with similar words in it.
So on YouTube, something interesting happened where if somebody made a video about immigration, YouTube's algorithm does not know if you're for or against immigration.
All it knows is the title said the word immigration in it.
So who does it send it to?
People who are for immigration or against immigration?
It doesn't know.
So with someone like Dylan Mulvaney what happens is there are some things that people will click thumbs up on.
It doesn't know the difference between Dylan Mulvaney who's pretending and mocking and insulting trans people and say like an actual trans person making a real argument.
Thus, Dylan Mulvaney's outrageous shenanigans and the one big important component is the incrementation.
Day one, day two, day three.
That creates this effect in people where they need resolution so they always come back to see the next number.
It was perfect algorithmic manipulation.
And I think Dylan Mulvaney knew exactly what he was doing.
And I will stress it again.
I've talked to some, I'm not gonna name the individuals, but we've had the conversation with some of our guests on the show who are trans who said there's clear signs to them that Dylan Mulvaney is not trans based on the procedures and the things that Dylan has done.
That trans people don't do, or that trans people would have done, and certain things Dilma Rovani does that trans people would not do.
There have been references to, I'll give you an example actually.
When Dilma Rovani made the video and talked about how bulges exist and women have bulges, what was told to me, and maybe this is just the opinion of a couple trans women, is that A video like that would cause them severe anxiety by triggering gender dysphoria.
The idea of making a video and pointing to your junk and saying, look at my junk, like Dylan Mulvaney did, is the inverse of what someone with a body dysmorphic disorder would do.
Think about a person who's anorexic.
Do you think an anorexic person would make a video where they're like, look at my rolls, it's okay that I have rolls, I'm so fat, I'm so fat, everybody look how fat I am, look at this, and pinch themselves?
No, they do the opposite.
They're terrified of looking fat to the point where they starve themselves to death.
So if Dylan Mulvaney actually fit the descriptor as most people, like as somebody with dysmorphia, they wouldn't be making videos where they sing about having penis, a bulge in their pants.
It is totally fake.
There you go.
unidentified
I never thought about it that way, but it makes sense.
Because gender dysphoria is a mental illness.
I can't emphasize that enough.
So for Dylan to be so glorifying in it, it's problematic.
But it also just adds to the culture of mental illness overall.
Because I've noticed that anxiety and depression have become such a trend, and even ADHD.
There's people who have never been diagnosed with any of those in their lives.
So those are three very real conditions.
But now it's like to fit in, you have to have some kind of mental illness.
I've even had people brag about like, Oh yeah, I'm so bipolar.
Haha.
I'm like, is that funny?
brett dasovic
Yeah.
serge du preez
Or like DID people who said that they have like numerous personalities inside themselves.
And they're, they're talking about operating as a system basically.
Oh, this part of my system is whatever and whatever.
It is literally a trend.
It's literally like a TikTok thing.
And people post about all the time.
unidentified
Same thing with Tourette's.
Tourette's is becoming a trend.
brett dasovic
Part of it is also like in a culture now where everyone's looking for something that makes them special or unique.
That's something that they feel like gives them some type of unique identifier.
And it's just been turned into a weird thing through social media.
tim pool
You know, it used to be that if you wanted to be famous or known about, you had to do something notable.
So what you'd get is, you know, people would turn on the radio or the TV and they'd see actors.
And then people were like, oh, I want to be an actor.
I want to be an actor.
I've gone through so much of this too.
I've had people hit me up and be like, you know, back when I worked at Vice and I was traveling around, I had so many people be like, oh, I really want to do what you do.
Oh boy.
And then once they actually see what it involves, like, oh, I don't do that.
Like, that's not what I was talking about.
I want to be on camera and famous.
And I'm like, Okay, well, I'm on camera because I like traveling and talking to people and learning about what's going on in these places.
I'm not on camera because I want to be on camera.
That's, like, paradoxical.
It's like you get on camera for doing a thing, not just being on camera.
And so then, sure enough, people immediately abandon the line of work they never wanted in the first place.
People are just trying to do whatever they can to get attention.
phil labonte
I find it... I think that it...
It's surprising to me that there are so many people that get behind Dylan for Dylan being a trans person.
I really feel like there should be more people that would just be like, that is not a trans person.
That is a person just looking to be famous.
It's just hopping on the bandwagon.
tim pool
The way I described it is like, we're coming to the point where there's different kinds of transgender.
There is gender dysphoric, people who look in the mirror and feel a disconnect between their body and their biological sex, and that triggers depression and things like that.
And that is the traditional view of gender dysphoria or transgenderism.
But then you have what's called AGP and AAP, autogynephilia and autoandrophilia.
These are individuals like the person who wrote Gender Queer Friends, we have the book right there.
It's a biological female who is aroused at the thought of being male and so wants other people to call them male because it stimulates them.
Which is more kink and fetish stuff.
But then you have the third chapter, which is Dylan Mulvaney, who is not trans in any sense.
I think it was Michael Malice who said that he thinks it's a fetish act, like AGP, and I'm like, no, no, no, no, it's different.
I think Leah Thomas, the NCAA swimmer, there was an article talking about how... She was talking in the... Leah Thomas has a bunch of posts talking about what they call AGP, which is like, it's a kink, it's a fetish, it's not gender dysphoria.
But Dylan Mulvaney isn't doing that.
Dylan Mulvaney isn't dysphoric, as I referenced with the video about singing about having a bulge.
A person who is dysphoric doesn't want that.
So Dylan Mulvaney being proud and saying it's okay and look at my junk is like, are you just making fun of trans people?
You're clearly not dysphoric.
So Dylan Mulvaney's version of trans is, it makes me famous.
And they're promoting that to kids.
That's, I'll wrap up, that's why I think the Budweiser boycott is so important because they didn't come out in support of the LGBT community, they came out and like, Yo, I describe it as, imagine if Budweiser came out and sponsored an old school minstrel show of like a bunch of dudes in blackface being as racist as possible and I'm like, that's basically what I see with Dylan Mulvaney.
Insulting and mocking trans people and women at the same time to an extreme degree and then Whoopi Goldberg and The View and all these other institutions coming out and defending it.
phil labonte
That's the same thing that I said to a friend of mine.
I'd made a remark about the Anheuser-Busch comment, and I said, you know, this means keep applying pressure.
And he objected to it, and I was just like, look, Dylan is not a trans person that is helping trans people in any way.
The only thing he's doing is harming people.
He's not making anyone feel in any way sympathetic towards trans people, whether they're gender dysphoric, Or not.
And I don't think that we should entertain AGP at all.
Like, I don't want to play along with your kink.
unidentified
Right.
phil labonte
Sorry.
tim pool
But look at all the Pride Parade events where they have, like, men with dog masks on.
phil labonte
Yeah, the whole month should just be called kink and it should be... But that's what it is.
tim pool
When we had, I think, Destiny, Omni Liberal, when we were talking about Ron DeSantis and the books that were being disallowed, they say, it's a book ban.
Yeah, they're banning porn.
And he was like, well, this looks like sex education.
And I'm like, dude, that's a butt plug.
And he's like, yeah.
And I'm like, that's not sex education.
That's kink education.
phil labonte
Yeah.
That is the most ridiculous cope that I've ever heard come out of Destiny ever.
Like the idea that it's acceptable to teach people under 18 how butt plugs work.
Give me a friggin break.
tim pool
Children in schools under the guise of sex ed?
phil labonte
I mean, that is something...
I'll violate TOS if I keep going on, like, seriously.
tim pool
Oh, really?
You know, we'll save it for the members only show which is coming up in you know half an hour
But could you imagine how funny it would be? I wouldn't I will say this agreement
I will be in no way surprised at all if like in one year's time
Dylan Mulvaney uploads a video of him wearing a suit and tie with a deeper voice saying hey everybody
I just want to let you know the whole thing was a bit to prove how insane all of you are
I'm a conservative Christian, have been the whole time.
And then have them just be like, huh?
The idea that you could increasingly increment the insanity, the insults, the degradation, and you would keep supporting it proves the point.
phil labonte
It's hilarious.
tim pool
You don't see With Dylan Mulvaney, a calm, rational person saying, we just want to live.
Like, that's the argument I like to make.
No, Dylan Mulvaney, like, does the most shockingly offensive things possible, the most insulting ways possible.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Well, that's the state of things, I suppose.
How about that?
Let's go to Super Chats!
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It is live, and if you've been a member for at least six months or you sign up at the $25 level, you can actually submit questions and maybe even call into the show.
We only choose about four or five every night, so I don't want to say it's a guarantee, but we try to get as many new people in as possible.
And I think it's the most fun portion of the day when you guys get to talk to us on the show.
And of course, once that wraps, it's available in the archive forever for you to go back and watch later.
Alright, let's jump to those Super Chats!
Freedom Jeffrey 1776 says, Hi Tim, thank you for a great show in Austin.
Hopefully many more to come, and thank you for letting me plug my YouTube channel.
Absolutely.
And we are going to have a show, I think the next one's going to be in Florida.
But that won't be for a while.
So we're half a year away from that event, but I'm really excited for that one.
It should be even bigger.
All right.
Blackshadow164 says, Hey Tim, big fan of the show.
Matt Walsh should debate Jordan Klepper live.
Expose the Daily Show.
Also, a brewing company should sponsor Andrew Tate.
Sure, I guess.
That's up to him and a brewing company.
I don't think Klepper would ever agree to do a debate with Matt Walsh.
The same reason every one of these leftists or faux leftist default liberals won't do it is because they're woefully unprepared and incapable of defending indefensible ideas.
That's why I think Bill Maher is forced to come around because you can't... So here's the way I describe Bill Maher.
I think he knew for a while that he was playing dirty games and just siding with liberals.
But, you know, he was able to get away with it.
But there came a certain point where it's like you cannot fool all of the people all the time.
So he had to be like, okay, well that one's true.
And then once you say that, it's like, okay, well that one's true.
Okay, well that one was true.
Okay, well Trump never did that.
Okay, I agree with you on that.
Now he's at the point where he's like, I don't think they're giving lap dances.
And Winsome Sears is like, you gotta read more.
And he's like, okay.
Now he's getting to the point where he's like, you can't deny it.
You can't pretend like it's not happening.
serge du preez
I don't really see, personally, a pipeline going back towards the left.
You see it occasionally, like one or two odd YouTubers, but you only see the pipeline going towards the red pill, being awakened in the matrix.
You don't see it the other way.
tim pool
Well, it's like you were saying, Xavier, that you tried to debunk Candace Owens, and you ended up debunking yourself.
unidentified
Yeah, it was a fight for my life trying to debunk those videos.
And what I love about the PragerU videos especially is because they had all their sources there, so I was going to go as deep as debunking their sources.
And it was a wild process, to be honest.
tim pool
Well, it's actually really simple.
In what I call the freedom faction, you don't actually have to agree on the opinion.
Just the fact.
So if Candace Owens comes out and says, Michael Brown never had his hands up.
Eric Holder is the one who actually released the report saying he did not have his hands up.
And then if you're on the left, you're saying, that's not true.
Let me debunk that.
And you pull it up and go, oh, that actually is true.
Candace Owens' opinion could be that Darren Wilson was a good person or a bad person, but it doesn't matter.
The argument is over whether the fact she stated exists.
Hey, if it turns out, if Candace Owen said something like, you know, she thinks that you should drink out of glass bottles because plastic bottles are bad for you, you can be like, okay, well the fact is that plastic bottles do leach phthalates and all this stuff, but my opinion is that I don't think the effect is that pronounced, and you're probably fine.
Now, in reality, I'm actually in favor of glass bottles, that's why we have them.
But my point is, Candace Owens is not going to politically argue with you over a minor... Like, I guess my point is this.
I sat down with Glenn Beck, and we discussed abortion, pro-life versus pro-choice.
And we smiled, we talked it out, we agreed on the basic facts, and then we disagreed on the philosophy of government's role in how to deal with these things, and then smiled and shook hands.
There's no anger.
There's no animosity.
There's no resentment.
It was just like, thank you for helping me understand your opinion on moral philosophy.
I don't see it that way.
I disagree with you.
And I'm like, wow, I now understand your moral philosophy.
Opinion is opinion, but we agree on the facts.
That's the thing about where we are.
We can all disagree on our opinions on how things should be implemented, but as long as we agree on what is, we're fine.
The left doesn't understand what is.
They believe fake things all the time.
How can someone have an opinion if they don't know what actually happened?
They can't.
unidentified
I mean, that's why they use terms like his truth her truth They're trying to make the truth objective because the only
way for them to justify their senses or sorry Subjective or subjective is if they are able to just move
what the facts are every single time They have a debate about something. Yeah
phil labonte
They believe that the truth is downstream from power, so they believe that if they say things, they can create a world the way they want just by speaking into reality.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
Gabby Hayes says, What up, Brett?
Tim, your convo with Peter last week was nuts and gave me chills.
Love TimCast and Pop Culture Crisis.
Thanks for everything you guys do.
Which portion of it?
Was it the algorithmic manipulation one or the war one?
Because the war one I get super triggered.
Basically, if anyone ever comes to me, and they're like, I support war, and I'll be like, okay, why?
And they're like, no reason at all, just because the government told me to.
I'm just like, that's it.
I'm officially angry.
I do not believe you have a right to advocate for the bombing of civilians, women, children, or for that matter, even our adversaries, unless you can justify why it is.
In the same vein, that if a dude shoots another dude, you have to justify the self-defense.
You can't just be like, I don't know.
I agree with your right to bear arms, I agree with your right to self-defense, but you can't just walk up to a guy and attack him.
So if the United States wants to use the weight of government to go to war, and that's basically what we talked about in the members-only portion, he was like, here's what happened.
You guys should watch it, actually, if you want to see me get triggered and talk about Ukraine.
Basically what happened was, Peter Boghossian, smart guy, he's a cool guy, is of the view that wokeness derives from the universities.
And I said a portion of it in terms of some of its, you know, faux ideology, but wokeness itself is a result of the algorithm manipulating people, and wokeness is better described as cult-like adherence to liberal social orthodoxy.
And then I said, the best example of this is people putting Ukraine flags in their bios.
There is a one for one, for the most part, overlap between woke people and support for
the war in Ukraine. And then he said, I don't understand why you're lumping those things
together. And I was like, because there's literally no reason to support war in Ukraine.
There's like a few neocon neolib arguments about Russian expansionism, whatever. But whenever I
ask any of these people, why should I care about Estonia?
They can't give me an answer.
There's like, well, but Europe, I'm like, bro, that's not an answer. It is Estonia delivering
us grain to the delivers fertilizers. Is it going to deeply impact our economic situation?
Give me an answer. They don't have one.
And so my point is, if you've got someone claiming critical race theory, critical gender theory, pro-war in Ukraine and Trump sucks, there's clearly no link between these things in university.
It's all algorithms.
And then from that, he said he disagreed.
He supports the war in Ukraine.
And then I said, okay, I think this is Ukraine derangement syndrome.
We had this like two hour long debate over war.
serge du preez
It was good.
tim pool
I thought it was good.
Yeah, you know, it is what it is.
All right, you guys should watch it so I don't just rehash the whole thing and then we'll read some more.
Hillbilly Clinton says, if it wasn't for the algorithms, I would have never found your show a few years ago when I did.
So at least they did something right.
Love you all.
God bless.
Yes, I agree with that.
But here's the thing.
We are like booted from the algorithm now.
So, what basically happens, actually, let me give you a really good example.
If you've noticed, this channel has, I think, like 1.46 million subscribers.
Despite the fact that we get, like, a million plus views per day, and we are consistently the most viewed live show, I think we have, on average, the highest live audience every single night, Monday through Friday, on YouTube.
serge du preez
In the night slot.
tim pool
In the night slot, right.
There's other shows that get way more views and if like Red Bull doesn't get like millions of live viewers, but we consistently average way higher than most people.
How is it that we don't have the same level of subscriber growth than a bunch of these other channels on the left that get no views?
serge du preez
I wonder.
tim pool
I wonder.
You know what I mean?
And it's obvious, people complain all the time that even though they're subscribers and they watch every day, YouTube won't send them a notification for the show and they have to go and try and find it.
Many people have pointed out that even when we are live, they can't find the link.
So you know what we had to do to counter this?
TimCast.com now plays the embedded live show on TimCast.com, so whenever people are like, yo, it's not even popping up on your YouTube channel, it's like, go to TimCast.com, it's there.
And then they're able to watch it despite the fact that YouTube's doing something.
They're doing something.
So yeah.
That's the game they play.
All right.
Sideways says, just found Xavier's channel and content like a week ago.
Big fan.
And I'm really glad you were able to see things from both sides.
What kinds of content would you recommend to show what you discovered?
unidentified
Well, definitely PragerU.com.
Those five minute videos are incredible.
And even the archives of like the Candace Owens show that I would watch on there, Fireside Chat, Unapologetic with Amala, she is amazing.
All of those will give you really just quality context and they'll also give you the sources so that you can do your own research because we don't want you to just watch our videos and have that be the end all be all.
But if you go through those five minute videos, it's...
Much more productive than going to a university half the time now.
brett dasovic
The Stories of Us videos are good too, with people telling their stories about how they noticed culture was changing.
unidentified
Yeah, my Stories of Us video just came out last week.
So please go watch that on PragerU.com.
And if you have kids, go to PragerUKids.com.
They have kids content where it's all about American values, history, and none of the woke propaganda that you're seeing on channels like Disney now.
So I highly recommend going to PragerUKids.com if you're a parent.
tim pool
Alright, Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
said, Don Jr.
was just on the show talking about not backing down.
Now, because of donations, he wants folks to back down.
Why does the right lose?
Because people like Don Jr.
take, uh, people like John Jr.
take a walk, Don Jr.
I like Don Jr., and I gotta be honest, I listened, uh, to a bit of his argument, and I, I, I was actually almost convinced, because I was thinking, like, The media's reporting that Budweiser apologized, even though they didn't.
And I'm like, is that a PR victory?
I mean, it might be enough for the narrative when the media's saying Budweiser apologizes.
They didn't.
But you could call it that because they said, we didn't mean to be divisive, which shows regret for sponsoring Dylan Mulvaney, in which case it's like, Do you take the win right now, even though it's not the win you're hoping for, but you can claim it as a victory, or do you push it harder and maybe risk double or nothing and lose it all?
In the end, however, I think...
The end result should be, if they really do sponsor Republicans, or donate to Republicans more, then we actually have more leverage.
Don Jr.' 's argument should be the inverse.
He should be saying, double down on your boycott.
Because it turns out, Budweiser's desperate for Republican support.
This means we can EASILY win this one.
So here's my point.
If Budweiser really is scared, and it's the easiest thing in the world in terms of the culture war battle to win because all you gotta do is buy a different beer, and tack on to the fact that Budweiser actually depends on Republicans for their support legislatively, that just means that it's twice as easy to win.
Now, what should happen is Don Jr.
should have come out and said, oh, hey, Bud, you know you're sponsoring a bunch of Republicans?
Here's what I'm gonna do.
I'm gonna go to all those Republicans and tell them to kick your money back.
Unless you apologize.
Then Budweiser would be like, okay, you win.
Because they don't give money for nothing.
They're giving money to Republicans because they expect something to happen for them.
If these Republicans said, no, no, no, no, no, Budweiser, Anheuser-Busch, you get nothing from us anymore.
No penny is going to earn you any favors, because I will lose my re-election if I support you.
All right, ladies and gentlemen, here's one thing you can do.
First, if you really want to win this one, it's simple.
Don't buy Anheuser-Busch products until they formally apologize.
Two, if you're more keen to be productive and active, find out if your local representative—senator, congressman, mayor, whoever—is a Republican that receives any kind of funding from Anheuser-Busch or from a political action committee or super PAC that receives money from Anheuser-Busch, and then demand that politicians reject that funding.
Or denounce it at the very least.
If a PAC is receiving funding from Anheuser-Busch and they think it's for a Republican, demand of those Republicans, they denounce those PACs.
That will send chills down the spine of the CEO of Anheuser-Busch, and they'll apologize in two seconds.
Because that means they're gonna lose, like, make it politically toxic for any politician to associate in any way with Anheuser-Busch.
That's what Don Jr.
should have said.
Oh, they need our help?
They're paying for it?
I'm sorry, man.
I like Don Jr., but how spineless was it to be like, guys, guys!
But they give us money!
I don't care!
That means they need something from you.
Look, if I had a customer...
Come into my bakery and say, I pay my bills.
You better do as I say.
I'd be like, you know what?
I just found out I don't need your money.
Get out.
You're banned for life.
Don't come in here and spit in my face.
You know what I mean?
Like a contract between two parties is a mutual exchange.
Your money helps my business, but my business provides a service for you in exchange.
Imagine calling a plumber over to your house and then just insulting him the whole time.
And then he's like, well, I'm going to leave.
No, you can't leave.
No, no, no, no, no.
You can't do that.
You can't do that.
I'm sorry, man.
Put the pressure on.
Anyway, let's read some more.
Alright, what do we got here?
Korek says, Boycott has bush between a rock and a hard place.
We're right at summertime cookouts, fishing parties, etc.
They need to feel the hurt and we're close.
No joke.
It was so beautiful out today.
It was a crisp 60 degrees, the trees are all green, the pollen was everywhere, and I was sneezing up a storm.
But we're already talking about when we're gonna have this barbecue.
Maybe Friday.
Have a barbecue.
You call it a barbecue, but a grill, a grill.
You know, get a bunch of burgers, we got the picnic table outside.
Cookout.
Yeah, cookout.
We're gonna have to get some beers.
unidentified
Am I invited to the cookout?
tim pool
Absolutely!
But you gotta bring the beer, and you're not bringing an anhyzer.
unidentified
I wouldn't in the first place.
I have self-respect.
tim pool
So we'll do a big cookout.
You know what we should do?
You know what we should do?
We should do a really big cookout, like an event, we should find a local park, plan it for like a week or two, and then maybe it would have to be this weekend, like on a Saturday, see if we can just be like, we're doing a big meetup, we're gonna grill, everybody's invited, bring the beer, and not Anheuser.
We'll set a $50,000 budget for this, for our beer, and we'll build a mountain of Coors Light.
And I'll stress this too.
People have pointed out that Coors has done Pride commercial stuff.
I don't care about that.
Literally don't care if an alcohol beverage is advertising to adults who are LGBTQ.
That's great.
They're people, they drink beer, that's fine.
It's Dylan Mulvaney.
Dylan Mulvaney is insulting and advertising stuff to children.
I'm not, nah, get out of here.
Not interested, not interested.
serge du preez
Yeah, it's not the same thing.
People often conflate it.
It's just not the same.
tim pool
All right, let's see what we got.
Sir Neoff Strife says, Hey Tim, have you been watching Picard season 3?
They got a new director so far.
It's been a love letter to the next generation fans.
Since you talk about the next generation a lot, I think you'll like it.
I highly recommend watching episode 9 because it comments on modern culture war they just pointed out.
I think I have been watching it, but I don't think I've seen episode 9.
I skipped season 2 though.
Yeah, season two was the one where they go back in time to stop Trump.
Is that what it was?
brett dasovic
I have a rule that you get one episode to hook me.
If you can't hook me in one season, you don't get a season two.
tim pool
Well, the first one I thought was fun because it was just like, hey, remember this?
Remember that?
And I'm like, I was a good old days, you know?
Then season two is like something happened in the past that turned earth into an earth supremacist country.
We have to go back in time and stop Donald Trump from winning the presidency.
unidentified
That's just like, okay dude, I'm not gonna watch that, and I didn't.
tim pool
So, you know, whatever.
But Season 3 is fine.
Although I vaguely remember it at this point.
I don't know, what is it, like they're... They commandeered some ship, they tricked some guy, and then they're chasing after Picard's son or something.
brett dasovic
None of the, none of the new stuff.
I am finally starting Stargate though.
tim pool
Stargate SG-1 is amazing.
brett dasovic
I'm finally, I'm finally forcing myself to, because I had seen season one and I'm now starting to make my way through it a little bit at a time.
tim pool
It's cool because they take like sci-fi conspiracy and turn it into a show, you know?
So a lot of these weird, kooky, I hate calling them conspiracy theories because believing that aliens planted the seeds of life on Earth isn't a conspiracy.
Like the aliens didn't come together and say, no one gives no.
It's not criminal in any way.
It's just like a weird hypothesis, I guess.
phil labonte
Outlandish theories?
tim pool
Yeah.
phil labonte
I'm not sure.
tim pool
But is it even outlandish or is just like, like highly improbable?
brett dasovic
Obscure.
tim pool
Obscure improbable theories?
phil labonte
There you go.
tim pool
I guess you could, like, absurd would be, like, flat earth or something.
phil labonte
Absurd would be flat earth, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
I like donut earth theory.
The earth is both flat and hollow.
Hollow.
Flat and hollow.
It's a donut.
You know, donut earth.
There's actually pictures online of donut earth.
It's clearly not a donut because you'd see the gap of the donut when you, like, went to certain places.
You'd be, like, looking forward and you'd see a floating column in the sky, you know?
brett dasovic
Does somebody, like, fall through the hole in the donut if they just walk off the edge?
tim pool
What would the gravity be like if Earth was a donut?
Could you, like, float in the middle?
Would there be air?
brett dasovic
Over to the other side.
phil labonte
I suppose, like, there would be a spot in the center where you could be suspended.
tim pool
It's both flat and hollow.
Aaron Preston says, Phil, two weeks and this calling are absolute banger songs.
Your transition from scream to clean is amazing.
phil labonte
Cheers.
Thank you very much.
I appreciate that.
tim pool
And we're just listening to it, uh, before the show because I took all that remains in the weekend and I merged the voices into one voice and it was like just a different voice.
It didn't work.
I don't know.
phil labonte
We should do a little more though.
tim pool
Yeah.
We used 11 labs to take clips of the weekend and all the remains and put them together.
And it was just, it sounded like a weird guy.
I don't know.
phil labonte
There was a little bit of them in there.
tim pool
Yeah.
And there was also a weird distortion in the background, I think from the music playing.
phil labonte
Maybe, yeah.
tim pool
Let's see what we got.
Super503Dank says, have this guest back for the Culture War podcast, it'd be a good one.
Uh, I agree.
Yeah, we should, uh, have you back for the Friday morning show.
And we can talk about, like, all the BLM stuff more one-on-one.
unidentified
Sounds good to me.
tim pool
Yeah.
This one's more of, like, the news subjects of the day and stuff.
Alright, KCB says, just paid 120 bucks for 24 ultra-right beers, so be it.
I think I'm gonna order some.
serge du preez
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, I think I should.
You know, because we normally go to local breweries and we stock up on beer for guests with just, you know, but everybody's been very good about not drinking alcohol and not drinking beer.
And so we just never got more.
But, you know, some guests like a nice a nice beer.
We'll get the ultra right.
phil labonte
There's a lot of people on the right that have moved away from drinking alcohol and stuff like that.
tim pool
I think a lot of people in general have.
Whoopi Goldberg said she quit drinking.
People just don't drink.
brett dasovic
It seems like it comes up for me at least once an episode that I have to end up mentioning that being in recovery just means no drinking.
So Bud Light doesn't really affect me at all!
tim pool
But I did have an apple cider this weekend.
Because I'm not, you know, like I'll drink periodically and it was fun.
Hanging out with the boys playing poker and having an apple cider.
It was good fun.
Got a cooler a couple times, but won some money.
I had a good time.
All right, Daniel says, I'm a black progressive metal rock musician, but I've always been considered an outsider for some reason.
I don't know what it takes to break the mold of the stereotypes.
By the way, Tim, are you bringing in musicians to help with the movement and culture?
Yes.
Um, we got a couple songs in the works.
We're talking about doing a cover, maybe?
phil labonte
Yeah, we're gonna do it.
tim pool
Uh, Phil's helping out with one of the songs that we, like, half wrote.
phil labonte
I think we're doing Pain on Wednesday.
tim pool
Oh yeah, cool.
Yeah, it's a riff that I really like.
It's like a story that I really like for a song, but it's not one that I felt like I could do.
Phil's gonna do it.
phil labonte
Your choruses are good.
I'll just do some verse stuff, some shouty stuff.
It'll come out cool.
tim pool
Yeah, we'll see.
And then Carter's got a preliminary version of like an electric dance song that we're putting together.
So we started with a few songs.
We did three songs of mine, and we're trying to advance into other areas and bring in more people.
You know who I would absolutely I don't know.
absolutely love to get to work with on guitar.
And I don't even know if it's possible, but I'm just gonna say it.
What's his, is it Josh Farrow?
The former Paramore guitarist?
phil labonte
I don't know.
tim pool
Yeah, I think that's his name.
Yeah.
He's got, he wrote good guitar.
And I'm like, I'm just gonna say it cause maybe there's a possibility.
I'm assuming he's a Trump supporter.
unidentified
He's watching, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, who knows?
Who knows?
But he had some of the best, like, some really amazing guitar stuff.
Let's do cool things, man.
Let's read some more Super Chats.
Reed Weber says, Florida passed a bill that would allow for the death penalty for sexual assaults on kids 12 and under.
I know you oppose the death penalty, but I'm cheering.
My issue is not with... Okay, so here's the thing you gotta understand.
Uh, someone who abuses children, you're like, they should get the death penalty.
I'm like, okay, I hear you.
I totally understand.
My issue is not whether or not you think the crime justifies death.
It's whether or not the state can actually prove the crime.
And the idea of someone like Kamala Harris being in charge of murdering people freaks me out.
That's simply put.
phil labonte
I say it like this all the time.
I don't endorse the state killing people, but that doesn't mean that there aren't people that haven't earned death.
Like, there are plenty of people that deserve to die.
tim pool
People who kill other people.
People who torture, rape, murder, war criminals.
Like, there's a reason why the death penalty is a thing.
That through due process, it is determined that you have forfeit your right to life because of the egregious crimes against the world.
The problem is, Like, if I'm dealing with, like, a war, or if I see a guy, like, literally about to kill a child, like, you gotta stop that person.
You don't want them to die, but you're gonna do what you have to do to save that child's life, or the victim, or whatever.
The problem is, when you take a guy, I walk into a courtroom, and I sit down, and Kamala Harris goes, see this guy over here?
Well, he beat a kid so he should die.
And I'm like, lady, I don't believe you.
I don't believe you.
Like, sorry.
Don't get me wrong.
There are people who point out there's like, sometimes it's extremely definitive.
And I'm like, that's the thing, right?
It's like, there's 10 witnesses, here's a clean two-hour livestream of the guy doing it, he then runs at the camera, says his name, his date of birth, and his social security number, and it's like, okay, well that I get, but that's like, not how it really works.
So the issue is, it is better that 10 guilty persons escape than one innocent person suffer, and if the system is in place as such that innocent people can be put to death, I just can't support it.
End of story.
All right, all right, we're gonna read some more Super Chats.
That one gamer says, I heard you guys talk about religion a lot recently.
I'd like to recommend Michael Jones of Inspiring Philosophy.
He's openly said he's willing to come on the show.
Could be a great show.
I think that would be great for the Culture War podcast.
Maybe what we should do is we should get him on with Ian.
And Seamus.
serge du preez
And Seamus.
tim pool
Seamus is back this weekend, by the way.
unidentified
Is he?
tim pool
Yeah, I don't know how long he's going to be around for, but we've, we successfully tricked him.
We told him that we got him an all expenses paid trip to the Bahamas for vacation, but really we're going to have the airline reroute him back here.
And then when he lands, he won't know, and we're going to shuffle him into a car and then drive him here.
And then he won't realize until it's too late.
phil labonte
Smart.
It'll work.
tim pool
And then he'll just, you know, wake up in here and he'll be like, where am I?
What's going on?
And we'll be like, be funny.
You know.
Thousand foot deep and says people who wonder if the glass is half empty or half full missed the point.
The glass is refillable.
unidentified
Unknown.
tim pool
Oh, I like that one.
That's good.
phil labonte
That's nice.
tim pool
The glass is refillable.
Unless like you're in the desert, you know, then you're, then you're in trouble.
brett dasovic
Then all you've got is water left because of climate change.
And it's just, yes, the glass can't be filled at all or it's too full.
The pessimism will just always win through for that type of person.
If you're pessimistic, it's never going to change for a lot of them.
tim pool
Peter A. says, Scott Galloway was on Modern Wisdom, and in his interview he both states he's on the far left, his words, and his goal in life is to be effing rich, also his words, they will come for him too.
What a paradoxical statement.
I don't think these people know exactly what they're talking about.
phil labonte
Who is that they said?
tim pool
Scott Galloway, the guy who tweeted about drag shows for kids.
phil labonte
Okay, right.
tim pool
Yeah, and he said conservatives are living in a different century.
It's like the 22nd century, they're in the future, because in the future this stuff's not going to be allowed.
These people keep saying stuff like, you're on the wrong side of history, and I'm like, I'm kind of not convinced that's true, dude.
Because the polls suggest you are.
You know?
serge du preez
I watched a video that Red Yard made, the What If Alt History guy, about the future and how he's pointing out that people that are triggered by, how strong disgust is as a trigger, and people that are making this faction, the left is making a faction of people that are all like the deplorables, essentially, literally the basket of deplorables, and then saying, you know, love us, be our friends, we're the ways to go, but it just doesn't, history, if you know history, it doesn't turn out like that, it never does.
tim pool
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It's the most fun thing of the night, in my opinion, of the whole day.
So I'm really excited to have y'all call in.
It is the most interesting.
But also, Coffee Shop is currently underway in West Virginia.
We're gonna have a gaming club, social club, with some poker tables.
We're working on getting licensing for actual cash games.
It's going to be one of the most fun things ever, and I'm very confident.
When I went to MGM National Harbor, I was playing a old 1-3 Texas Hold'em.
A lot of people there knew who I was and were fans, and it was really cool to play a couple games with some fans.
And I'm fairly confident that this social club is going to be a huge success.
We're going to be able to bring people together who are like-minded, and building that community is the most important thing.
Because you're in a culture war, you gotta make culture.
So, member at TimCast.com, smash that like button, subscribe to this channel.
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Xavier, do you want to shout anything out?
unidentified
Of course, thank you again for having me.
You can find me on Instagram at Xavier, it's a regular spelling, it's X-A-V-I-A-E-R, and you can find me on Twitter at XavierD.
tim pool
Right on.
phil labonte
I am Phil Labonte, PhilThatRemains on Twitter, PhilThatRemainsOfficial on Instagram.
The band is AllThatRemains, ATR HQ on Twitter, AllThatRemains on Instagram.
brett dasovic
Perfect.
Guys, if you'd like to follow me, you can follow me on Instagram and Twitter, at Brett Dasovic on both, and please join me and Mary on Pop Culture Crisis, Monday through Friday, 3 p.m.
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See you there, guys.
serge du preez
I'd also like to shout out Carter Banks' father, Guy Banks.
He was really nice to us on the trip back in Texas.
And it is his birthday, or was his birthday, on Sunday.
Shouts out.
Thank you, man.
I appreciate it.
That's all.
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Follow me if you want to.
tim pool
Right on.
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