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john rich
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tim pool
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hannah claire brimelow
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ian crossland
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serge du preez
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tim pool
Welcome to our special weekend show, Sunday Uncensored.
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unidentified
Now, enjoy the show.
serge du preez
Yeah, it's up to you.
tim pool
John's gonna play a song called I'm Offended.
unidentified
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
Are we recording?
unidentified
I think we are.
john rich
Am I singing it now?
serge du preez
We're rolling.
tim pool
We're rolling.
ian crossland
Damn, that sounds good.
tim pool
Sounds good.
john rich
Eliza Blue, Eliza Blue.
serge du preez
Alright.
unidentified
Woo!
She's gonna get famous, and you will too.
Liza Blue, Liza Blue, Liza Blue.
For $50,000 she'll make a fool of you.
Liza Blue, Liza Blue.
john rich
Tony, you should write a song.
You should turn lemons into lemonade and make a song about Liza Blue.
Put it out for charity.
ian crossland
We should.
tim pool
I'm gonna title this, John Rich sings a song about Liza Blue being a grifter and then all those people cancel.
Like, well I gotta pay money to see what he's doing.
hannah claire brimelow
So this is why you had to research, so you could come up with your lyrics.
john rich
I got nothing against Liza Blue.
ian crossland
Do you like her?
tim pool
I honestly just, look man, we booked her on the show twice, and people are like, why would you book a grifter?
I'm like, we've had a lot, we're the Krasensteins on this show, dude, come on.
john rich
Anytime you have a politician on the show, you damn near bookin' a grifter.
ian crossland
That's right.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, wasn't it Hotep Jesus who like runs the grifties?
He was like, you are the king of promoting grifting.
unidentified
Yeah, right.
hannah claire brimelow
People come out here like, to grift off of you.
You are like the patron saint of grifting.
tim pool
Hotep's, Hotep Jesus is hilarious.
hannah claire brimelow
He's so funny.
tim pool
Yeah, that was fun.
But yeah, even on that show, we talked about Eliza, and you mentioned she's gonna win the grift, and we all laughed.
hannah claire brimelow
He's more so just a cultural comedian.
I don't think he's a grifter.
He's a grifter.
ian crossland
He can't be Alexander.
serge du preez
He can't be Alexander.
john rich
He's a grifter.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
Yeah.
He very proudly declared his victory and said, I'm coming again for the title next year.
tim pool
But he's more so just a cultural comedian.
I don't think he's a grifter.
I think like I think he's legitimately bringing up interesting points and being funny about
hannah claire brimelow
it.
But I think being called a grifter like just feeds the character he's made for himself.
john rich
You know, his mother died during COVID and the lockdowns and all that, and that tore him up bad.
He saw that and realized what had been placed on the country and how they dealt with all that, and that's when he came out and said, you know what, I'm gonna start swinging at them, but did it with comedy.
I think there's more to the guy than just being crazy on a mic.
ian crossland
He's brilliant.
tim pool
I think, you know, just to delightly mention the Eliza Blue stuff, I think she's a grifter.
Like, she says she wants to be famous.
She clearly wants to be famous.
And she's found that being an advocate against trafficking is a path towards being famous.
So I'm kind of like, look man, she's not that famous.
I don't really care that much.
She's not gonna change policy.
She's not gonna have a big impact.
There's no reason to give people like this attention.
But if she's advocating against child porn and human trafficking, it's like, okay, well, you know, whatever.
john rich
Maybe she should get famous if she's pushing for that.
tim pool
I mean, you don't have to like her, but... I mean, you know.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
You know.
ian crossland
The message is strong.
hannah claire brimelow
I think you can't get... I mean, you can be mad at whatever you want, but being mad at her for wanting to be famous is like being mad at all the teenage girls who want to grow up and be influencers, right?
The desire for fame and having an individual platform is very common.
And I think before that, being famous on stage or performing or touring or whatever was also common, but now you can be famous from your living room having never left your house, you know?
tim pool
The reason why I think it's, uh, I'll tell you this.
I know it's an op.
And there's, there may be a lot of people who are tricked by it and that they think it's a genuine cultural movement, but like, there's literally no reason to be this angry over a low tier personality who just trying to be famous.
serge du preez
That's what threw me at first.
People were bringing up all this stuff about her.
I'm like, you've researched this girl this much from her MySpace days?
tim pool
It's more than Trump derangement syndrome.
People got mad at Trump, but the levels of hate and violence.
It's an op.
The goal is to get a mob riled up, talk about it, and make her famous.
ian crossland
I take a little different approach.
I think Jeremy is basically the ringleader of the drama because he got banned on Twitter and feels like it was unjust.
tim pool
That's part of the op, bro.
serge du preez
Right, he's being manipulated in a sense.
He also has said on his Twitter opening, like, don't rag on Tim.
Like, Tim's my friend.
Like, you guys are crazy.
hannah claire brimelow
He'll say that, I don't follow him at all.
He keeps coming up in my- He's not my friend.
And then he'll be like, well, Tim didn't do this thing I wanted.
Like, it's just like, I don't want to interact with this person.
tim pool
And here's what he did.
And this is why all of his fans are mad.
We booked him twice.
He canceled on us twice.
The second time he canceled on us at the exact last minute and we didn't know and we had to find someone else.
Fortunately, we had Matt Strickland on and he was great.
And then that night he was supposed to be on, he went on a different show and criticized me for not talking about it.
serge du preez
Wow, dude.
tim pool
And then, I'll let everybody who's a member know why I blocked him, because he sent me a message at 2 in the morning, which came off as a veiled threat.
I will try and quote it verbatim what he said.
I know our audiences want a war but I don't.
please tell me your guy is taking her to task.
And I just said, I'm done with this.
serge du preez
So he's telling you to do what he wants, basically.
He's telling you to kowtow.
tim pool
The context there is beyond what he said, my understanding, and I don't know if Shane
probably doesn't want me to say this, but messages had been received basically threatening us
that if we did not write a negative story about her, we would regret it.
And then a couple hours later, Jeremy sends me that message and I just said,
I'm not playing these fucking games, dude.
And I just blocked him.
And people are like, but why did Tim block him?
Well, I don't know.
Maybe it was because he made YouTube thumbnails of my face with Jack Murphy's beard.
Shit talked to me while saying, but Tim's my friend.
But you know, he really is not going to address this.
Maybe it's because he told us he would come on this show and we planned for it.
And then he canceled on us.
And I said, okay, well, these things happen.
That night, while we were live, he went on a different show and said, Tim Pool, I'll give him one more day to talk about this.
serge du preez
To do secretive traveling.
tim pool
Yeah, so it's like, don't cancel on me and then get mad at me that I didn't talk about it the night you were supposed to be here to talk about it.
And then don't message me saying, look, he said, these people gotta understand, I know our audiences want a war, but I don't.
Please tell me your guy is taking her to task.
It's about as close to verbatim as I can get.
My audience wants a war?
My audience doesn't care about this e-drift, e-girl stuff.
No, it's Jeremy who won't stop saying my name and using my name to make videos and to get attention.
He does this thing where, like, if something minor happens to me, he'll make a headline, like, that's outrageously nonsensical.
Like, I'll do a kickflip and he'll write, Tim Pool does the craziest record-breaking trick ever done.
You know, it's things like that, and I'm just like, I'm done playing these games, dude.
john rich
There's one way to end it once and for all.
It's real simple.
Cage match.
hannah claire brimelow
Does this happen in the whiskey business?
ian crossland
We don't fight on Twitter direct messages.
You and Jeremy Handley, dude.
hannah claire brimelow
Does this happen in the whiskey business?
tim pool
Would you box them?
john rich
Absolutely.
Yeah, we don't fight on Twitter direct messages.
We meet in the parking lot and handle this like country boys.
serge du preez
Good old boys.
tim pool
Well, I gotta be honest.
You guys are all so different.
I was like, I blocked him cause I don't want to be involved.
I'm not going to talk about it.
I'm done doing this.
And you know, it couldn't help it.
Here I am.
ian crossland
I don't want to associate Jeremy with Eliza and or Jack Murphy or you, like I,
you guys are all so different.
tim pool
Why, why was, why was Jeremy so obsessed with Jack Murphy?
ian crossland
I think he felt personally wronged because he probably believed Jack was like the alpha male.
And then Jack, the way he handled the, you know, the exposure of the past porn stuff was like, it felt like a less than alpha response.
And Jeremy was like, I had faith in this guy.
And this guy even got through to pass me.
I'll just tell you like, I think, I don't know.
tim pool
The amount of hatred and attacks that came against Jack Murphy were At a higher degree than anyone ever went after Trump.
And so that, to me, was just like, what the fuck, dude?
Jack Murphy was just some dude who was on this show.
serge du preez
It was only Fridays?
tim pool
No, it was every other Wednesday for seven months.
serge du preez
It was not a lot, yeah.
tim pool
He was on this show 17 times, I believe.
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tim pool
to smack talk us, and then claims he's my friend.
Then he makes a video with my face with Jack Murphy's beard, and continually talks smack, and then says he's my friend.
And people are like, Tim, why aren't you friends with Jeremy?
This guy's not my friend.
This guy's been shitting all over me nonstop, and I ignore it.
ian crossland
The picture of Jack Murphy's beard as your hat?
unidentified
Did you see that one?
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever.
Anyway, you were gonna play a song called I'm Offended.
john rich
There's so many song ideas flying around right now in this whole conversation, that's why I'm not saying anything.
I'm just going, wow.
There's title after title.
Jack Murphy, Liza Blue.
This is an epic song waiting to be written.
Maybe you should just write the song, record it, and that's your final thought.
tim pool
You know what I'll do?
I'll just play like A, C, D, F, A minor, C, D, F, and I'll just talk.
john rich
Spoken word.
tim pool
Jeremy Hambly made a video where he was shit-talking me and he claimed he was my friend.
Then he told everyone, don't go to Tim's website and cancel your membership.
I'm, I still think he's my friend.
Here's a picture of him with Jack Murphy's beard.
Like, oh, okay, dude.
Real, real good friend move there.
serge du preez
Yeah.
I didn't know that he, that he had like been on the other, another program while he was saying he was, well, you're supposed to be on our program.
tim pool
I'm, I'm pretty sure I could be wrong, but, uh, I'm pretty sure the night, the day he was supposed to be here, he did a show with like, um, I think Chrissy Mayer and like Brittany Venti.
And he was like, I'm gonna give Tim till tomorrow to talk about it, but like, he wouldn't talk about Jack Murphy either, and all he had to do was say, I'm sorry, this guy was grifting off my show.
He was on every week.
And it's just like, Jeremy's just lying.
Like, Jack Murphy was on 17 out of 400 episodes.
He was a recurring guest that was here periodically.
It was over the span of a few months.
We had him every other Wednesday.
That was it.
And I'll be honest, the reason why Jack Murphy doesn't come on the show anymore is because I personally felt the way he handled the situation with Eliza and Sydney was extremely inappropriate.
ian crossland
You said Eliza and Sydney.
Elijah?
tim pool
Elijah!
ian crossland
It's happening.
tim pool
It's happening.
ian crossland
The confluence is beginning.
tim pool
Actually, I was talking to someone I mentioned, Elijah Schafer, and they were like, Eliza?
And I'm like, no, no.
hannah claire brimelow
I can't escape it.
tim pool
I can't escape it.
The way he handled that with Elijah and Sydney, I basically was talking to both of them and I was like, guys, this is not worth the drama.
I get it.
I told Jack, dude, you need to apologize.
You shouldn't have said that to her.
I get it.
Just be like, I was wrong.
I'm sorry, dude.
Seriously, I hope you guys can forgive me.
Behind the scenes, Jack was just like, I don't know, I guess his honor was hurt.
ian crossland
That might have been part of it too, why Jeremy took such issue with Jack is because of the way he treated Sidney on that show.
Because now Jeremy and Sidney are doing a show together.
Multiple shows together.
Community Notes, I think it's called.
tim pool
And Sidney is awesome and we're friends with her and we've had her out several times as well.
And that's why I was like, guys, here's my thing.
We shouldn't have these fights in public.
We should sit down like adults, maybe have some whiskey and be like, okay, we've got a mission here.
We're trying to better this country, save the world in a manner of speaking.
This ain't going to help it.
So why don't we figure out what we got to do so that we can carry on a mission that's a positive thing.
But, you know, Jack didn't want to do that.
hannah claire brimelow
And if that doesn't work, you cage fight in the parking lot, right?
tim pool
I'm not trying to drag Jack or anything.
I don't want to speak ill of anybody, but I felt like, you know, he decided, like he sent a message, I guess, behind the scenes saying, I'm going to war or whatever.
And I'm like, bro, this is not the way you handle this.
And so I'm just like, I'm done with it.
I'm not being involved.
But Jeremy makes so much of his content off of just doing drama stuff.
And I got no issue.
TMZ does their thing.
I'll cite them.
Jeremy does his thing.
Sometimes it's very, very important.
But for Jeremy to like, try and insult me consistently over and over again,
and then be shocked that I'd block him, is just laughable.
hannah claire brimelow
I just I don't follow him but Twitter keeps like putting him in my news feed and I'm such a boomer I don't know how to get rid of it but he'll it'll be like one tweet being like can't believe they would do this the next one's like no guys Tim and I are cool and the next one's mad at you like at a certain point it must just be exhausting to follow this person yeah?
tim pool
Oh it's just like dude I'll say it again I think he has like two different thumbnails of me with Jack Murphy's beard And Brittany Venti did the same thing.
Like, not the same thing.
Brittany Venti posts, like, Jack Murphy beards.
And then I'm just like, here's what I don't understand.
I'm gonna say this right now to each and every one of you as a member.
If you really care about Jack Murphy, you shouldn't be a member of this website.
I don't care.
You know, and the other thing they're doing, right, is they're saying that, like, so I did a video today Talking about how the one thing that really makes me want to just quit is the low tier internet drama.
Like, I specifically cited the Young Turks and Hasan Piker and now they're claiming I was talking about Jeremy.
And I'm like...
It's because all they have is fake drama because, I don't know, it's not real.
ian crossland
The drama is friction and it builds on itself, so the longer you stay in it, the hotter it gets faster.
I've dealt with that bullshit in 06.
It's non-stop.
You get some idiot that tries to tell you about Marijuana, who'd never smoked marijuana before.
john rich
But what does the big dog do when he's walking down the sidewalk and the little yap dogs barking through the chain link fence?
ian crossland
You bark loud.
john rich
No, what does the big dog do?
unidentified
Oh, I don't know.
john rich
He just keeps walking.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
john rich
He never barked.
You ever seen a big dog go woo woo woo at a chihuahua?
unidentified
No.
john rich
They just look at him like...
tim pool
Okay.
john rich
And they just keep walking, you know?
I mean, they're nipping at you to try to get you to engage because you're bigger than they are.
And I would say this, just as a guy looking on the outside, this girl, Liza Blue here, that's a sad predicament to be in as a person that You've got to go out and stir up this kind of controversy, maybe pay for it based on what you're saying.
tim pool
Well, I don't know that she did.
I'm not saying that.
john rich
Could be the case, but whatever it is, that you want to be famous just because you want to be famous.
I've got to tell you, fame comes with a lot of downside.
A lot of downside.
If you're going to be famous and deal with the downside of fame, I hope you built something great because it is somewhat of a chain and a shackle to you to a large degree and somebody that wants that just for the sake of wanting it doesn't understand it very well.
ian crossland
What was the biggest bullshit you had to deal with?
john rich
Well, I mean, you've been in my house in town.
I mean, my house is like a fort, you know, because I have death threats.
I've had people put in GPS ankle monitors that have threatened me, you know, all kinds of crazy stuff.
But that comes with the territory in these days if you build something great.
But if you build something great that you can really... I built that myself.
I grew up in a trailer in Texas.
I have a high school diploma.
That's the extent of my pedigree.
All right?
And you've been to my house, and I don't owe any money on the house.
ian crossland
I've only been to the top three floors.
john rich
I have no debt.
I've built some good stuff, but I've taken blank sheets of paper, and I've turned them into things that have done well.
I've got to build those things.
Inspired, the boss gave me the inspiration, I did it.
So I get to hang on to that, regardless if whatever happens in my life, I go, you know what?
It was nothing, and now it's something, and now my kids get to take that and build on top of that.
I got pride and integrity with that, but somebody that says they, and fame came because of that.
I want to be famous, so I'm going to turn this blank sheet of paper into a song.
No, I'm going to turn the blank sheet of paper into a song because that's what I'm driven to do.
I don't know if anybody's going to hear it.
And then fame is a byproduct of that.
But if fame is the point and the goal, that's very hollow.
It's never going to mean anything to you.
ian crossland
Did you have a plan to become famous in the back of your mind?
Was that part of it when you were creating?
john rich
I always wanted to be able to get successful enough where I could play with my heroes.
Play music with my musical heroes.
I got to do a couple of shows with Johnny Cash early in the day.
hannah claire brimelow
That's so cool.
john rich
Or be able to play on the Grand Ole Opry stage.
Be able to invite my family and grandparents from the World War II generation to the Opry and watch me sing.
Those are the kind of things I was shooting for, so it wasn't like, I hope 50 million people know my name and I get to build a big old house.
That really wasn't in my mind.
It was, can I achieve enough status to even be in the room next to the people that I really look up to?
hannah claire brimelow
Get back to your family, it sounds like, too.
ian crossland
Jordan Peterson said one of the greatest things about being famous is that anyone in the world will talk to him, basically, that he wants to talk to.
john rich
That's a good byproduct, yeah.
If I want to get a hold of somebody, I'm probably one or two people away from finding Pretty much anybody.
tim pool
For us, the benefit is this Wednesday, we're planning on having several members of Congress on.
And I remember when we first started the show, and we were reaching out to people, and I'm like, look, I got a bunch of subscribers, I got these big channels, and people would be like, thank you, we're not interested.
Then the show got to a certain level and now everyone's begging us to come on and we have to tell people no.
Like, sorry man, we're booked up for two months.
This is getting crazy.
We have people being like, well, can you bump someone?
And we're like, dude, we paid for their travel already.
Like, you want to cover those costs?
Like, we're not doing it.
Well, can I come on with them?
No joke, like some high profile people.
And so this Wednesday we have a massive show planned, which I don't want to give too much details on, but it's multiple members of Congress.
They really, they like, You know, now that everyone knows, I think Matt Gaetz said after the show that every member of Congress, like Freedom Caucus or a Republican's communications director knows Tim Kast IRL and is like talking about it like, this is a real show where you can explain and talk about your ideas.
ian crossland
Even before he came on, he said that.
That's what had been happening in Washington, D.C.
john rich
So you are realizing your goal.
You said a few minutes ago, you know, your show and other people's shows, the point is to inform people, make people think critically about what's going on in the country, save the country.
If an idea creeps in deep enough, that really becomes important.
And so now you've reached the level where people that actually can make law will sit on your show And express the same kinds of ideas.
They're not going to hear these conversations in the halls of Congress.
I mean, the only- Congratulations.
That's a big deal when that lands.
tim pool
I appreciate it.
I never wanted to be famous.
The only goal I ever had was that I've got this poster on my wall that I've had since I started.
And it's a follower count number.
And the thing is, every time I get a higher guest, I move it forward.
And Ron Paul is the last one.
And once I interview Ron Paul, I quit.
I'm done.
john rich
Have you tried to get him yet?
tim pool
I think we're going to be able to.
They've said yes.
It's just an issue that is very old.
I'm kidding, by the way.
There's no meter.
But, no, like one of the things is, yeah, just like you, I wanted to have conversations with people.
I wanted to talk with them.
Here's a crazy thing that I probably shouldn't say, but I will.
When I was 18, I'm sitting in my friend's house, and we're watching Real Time with Bill Maher.
Apparently, Real Time with Bill Maher is really trying to get me on their show, and I won't do it.
So, because I'm just like, I mean, I'd love to, but I fucking hate LA, so.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I just love LA.
ian crossland
Dude, I'll go.
I don't even want to go on the show.
I'll just go hang out if you want to.
tim pool
With Bill Maher?
Yeah, like Bill, he will send Ian instead.
ian crossland
He's great.
tim pool
No, but I'm thinking maybe we do it if we set up a mobile show somewhere.
We do the LA week or whatever.
Or maybe I just take Thursday, Friday off to do the show.
I'm just like, why would I take my show off to do his show when I get more views than his show does?
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, you've talked about this before, being hard to do other people's shows or have other people on who do a daily show because of the travel.
ian crossland
I wonder if he'd have us both on and we'd just do like an IRL time.
tim pool
Well, no, they do like three panel members, you know what I mean?
Me, you, him, the fourth guy.
And they don't care.
They won't do this show.
They said no.
john rich
Really?
ian crossland
Is it contractual with the network?
tim pool
No, I think he would do it if we went there, but he won't go here to do a show.
Just like, I don't want to go there.
ian crossland
He's got a new show, Club Random, which is pretty good.
That's just him and a dude smoking cigars and talking about whatever.
tim pool
So I guess what I was pitched was doing both.
And I was like, okay.
ian crossland
Club Brandon's awesome.
john rich
Where do you get a blue mason jar?
ian crossland
Uh, this was like in a... We ordered them.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Amazon.
ian crossland
It was in a cupboard.
tim pool
We have brown ones too.
ian crossland
Just order four more.
Yeah.
They're really great.
They're the best way.
I hate refilling my water glass.
john rich
I've never seen a colored mason jar.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Anyway, man, you know what I'll say?
You know, my last thoughts on all this stuff is I'm surprised people care so much.
And there are people responding in the chat.
They were like, no, it's about the censorship.
It's about the censorship.
serge du preez
No, it's not.
tim pool
It was never about the censorship because they were complaining before the censorship.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
And so it's just like, OK, well, bro, Jeremy could have come on the show.
He didn't have to.
But at the very least, don't fucking talk shit if you're not going to come on the show.
ian crossland
With the censorship, so what I think what happened was Eliza was being trafficked five years ago, whenever this was, I don't know how long ago this was, five, 10 years ago, whatever, she did this video with World Star Records, but it was at a time in her life now that she looks at it as when she was there, she was being trafficked, but at the time, as she was in that being trafficked state, she was consenting to everything, and making videos about how awesome it was, but it's like Bystander Syndrome, or like Stockholm Syndrome.
tim pool
Hey, you gotta read Shane's story.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
tim pool
She was sold for drugs.
ian crossland
Fucking wild, dude, so trafficked for sure.
tim pool
The guy that she was with told her, this is the story she told, and maybe she's full of shit, I don't know.
There's only part one of an 80,000 word story, but she claims that they wanted drugs, and they said, look, this guy's agreed to buy you in exchange for the drugs, so you gotta go stay with him for a week.
And then she talked about how she overdosed because she Basically I had to sleep with this guy whenever he wanted so that he would give drugs to them, and she hated it and was disgusted, considered herself a child prostitute, and then ultimately just OD'd and woke up at Cedar Sinai, and apparently the haters confirmed that happened.
ian crossland
So what concerns me is if she now looks at that Worldstar hip-hop video as like a trafficking, like just having that video as having trafficking footage.
I think that happened later.
serge du preez
I think that happened later.
ian crossland
I'm so lost on the timeline, man.
tim pool
She says she got trafficked a second time after the first time she OD'd.
Her parents brought her back.
There's more to the story, I don't know.
But the thing is about these people who hate her, it's an op.
It's a PR op.
They made her famous.
Congratulations, we talked about her.
I'm not kidding.
unidentified
She doesn't look anything to hate that I can see.
ian crossland
They think that she went behind the scenes of Twitter and asked the admins to ban Britney and Jeremy for things that weren't bannable offenses.
That's what the thought is.
hannah claire brimelow
And that she's maybe taking credit for some of her work.
I saw that at one point.
I really haven't followed this at all.
tim pool
And now the Daily Beast is writing about her.
Now she's in the liberal sphere.
It's a PR op.
hannah claire brimelow
It made her bigger than she ever was.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah.
She's famous now.
I mean, nine-time Grammy nominee.
You probably got actual awards or whatever, but you mentioned the Grammys.
john rich
Yeah, we were talking about Grammys, so yeah.
ian crossland
Did you win one?
john rich
Nope.
tim pool
Did you win any awards that matter?
john rich
Well, in the country music world, yes.
CMA Awards, ACM Awards.
I was ASCAP Songwriter of the Year three years in a row.
tim pool
Not ASCAP.
john rich
Three years in a row I got that one.
So in Nashville, I mean, ASCAP Songwriter of the Year.
tim pool
You just wrote a song about Eliza Blue in 30 seconds.
unidentified
I did.
tim pool
That was pretty good.
john rich
You wanna hear my silly song, I'm Offended?
tim pool
Yeah, let's hear it.
john rich
I'm Offended.
Okay, it's the first time this has ever been performed outside of my house.
Right, let's go.
So I plan on, I just recorded this, I'm gonna put it out after the Tom McDonald song.
So I'll put it out maybe like in April.
It's my little take on people getting offended.
It seems like these days, no matter what you say, someone's losing their ever-loving mind.
It's like they're looking for a reason to have their fragile feelings hurt every single time.
My country truck, I gas it up.
You've got your fancy Tesla hooked up to a plug.
unidentified
I skip the jab, I know you're mad.
john rich
Cause I'm breathing free at last and you're still stuck behind your mask and I'm offended.
You're offended.
Let's all get offended tonight.
I'll order us a beer.
We can sit down right here and scream and yell and cuss and fuss and fight.
unidentified
Now hang on just a minute.
john rich
You can't amend the First Amendment.
You're offended.
I defend it all the time.
So let's take another sip.
Don't hold back and let her rip.
unidentified
Cause in the end you'll be left and I'll be right.
john rich
And I'm offended.
You're offended.
unidentified
Let's all get offended tonight.
john rich
I'll order us a beer.
We can sit down right here and scream and yell and cuss.
I like to shoot my .22, somehow it seems to always trigger you.
I pray to God, you think that's odd, cause you say he don't exist, so why are you so pissed?
You're offended.
unidentified
Let's all get offended tonight.
john rich
I'll order us a beer.
We can sit down right here and scream and yell and cuss and fuss and fight.
unidentified
Hey, I'll order us a beer.
We can sit down right here And scream and yell and cuss and fuzz goodbye
I'm offended!
john rich
You're offended.
He's offended.
tim pool
I was really offended by that.
ian crossland
Still actually.
john rich
Oh, thank you.
tim pool
I'm so angry.
ian crossland
I have a Tesla.
tim pool
I felt personally slighted.
ian crossland
It was the way you were.
john rich
And I'm offended that you took offense to that.
tim pool
I actually have a Dodge Ram diesel, a turbo diesel as well, though.
unidentified
To cancel each other out.
tim pool
Bounce it out.
john rich
In your car choices.
tim pool
Well, I got to bounce.
I got the Tesla because I was like, yo, they're going to try and ban gas.
And I wasn't wrong.
California, Oregon, Washington, they're trying to get rid of it.
ian crossland
You got an electric?
john rich
No.
unidentified
Really?
ian crossland
You think you'll ever get one?
john rich
I don't think so.
You should.
I mean, okay.
unidentified
Why?
john rich
Is this peer pressure?
tim pool
No, no, because they're trying to ban gas.
john rich
Sell me on the car that slams on the brakes when I'm on the interstate.
tim pool
I'm not saying buy a Tesla.
john rich
Please keep selling me on it.
tim pool
Buy electric because clearly these people are trying to ban gasoline.
So having a backup that you can find alternate means of supplying energy for is probably a good idea.
So like the Tesla, for instance.
I could charge it off solar panels, which would take forever, but if they shut down gas stations or cut the supply or jack the price, I'm not thinking about the political stance of having electric versus gas.
I'm thinking about if there's no gas in my area because of war, conflict, or because Biden's like, we're banning gas.
john rich
Backup plan.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
I'm thinking about prepping.
john rich
Of course, if they turn the electricity off, you can't charge it.
tim pool
I can.
I've got, we've got these big batteries.
I got one right here and we've got, we lay out massive solar panels.
Yeah, you should see them.
This one battery that we have right here, if I plugged it into Tesla, The whole battery, I'd imagine, would give the car about four or five miles of driving time.
Meaning, it would take you a week, or maybe two weeks, to fully charge the Tesla off the solar panels we have for this.
Two weeks, and that's like direct sunlight, perfect.
john rich
If things got that bad, do you wanna drive anywhere, though?
ian crossland
Only like an armored Tesla truck or something.
tim pool
Someone busts their leg and they get an infection, need antibiotics, you're gonna wanna drive, absolutely.
Horse might be good, though.
ian crossland
At your place, you got a tower, basically.
There's this, with solar panels, I don't know, are you hooked up to solar at all, at the house?
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
Or is that just a little?
They do it in the Fibonacci sequence, so the way the trees grow, the way the leaves are at angles of the Fibonacci going up, gets more sunlight, 40% more in December, than your average flat solar paneling.
So you might be able to make these small solar towers with panels that wrap around.
john rich
I think if I could get an electric vehicle that didn't have AI all over it, I might be more apt to doing that, but when I hear I've heard stories like that too, where the car slams on its brakes and takes off.
Can you get an electric car without AI?
tim pool
You don't have to turn the AI on, you can just drive it.
hannah claire brimelow
How do you know it's definitely off?
That's my question.
unidentified
Because if you let go of the steering wheel, you'll crash.
hannah claire brimelow
The car is still monitoring you.
It's still collecting data.
tim pool
That's not the issue.
ian crossland
So it can turn itself on?
tim pool
We're talking about whether it slams its brakes on.
If you put on full self-driving, it slams its brakes on, for me, once a week.
Okay, that's not fair.
Once a month, but once a week, it will brake.
And I tap the accelerator to cancel the braking, and that's fucking annoying.
There have been a couple times where it slammed the brakes on outright and we flew forward.
john rich
Okay, so what happens if this car that's driving itself gets in an accident, really hurts somebody, and the insurance companies come in?
How does that settle out in a courtroom?
When you're not the one that did it, the car did it itself.
tim pool
The car broke on a highway and caused an eight-car pileup and a bunch of people got hurt.
john rich
So is the driver still at fault even though the car did it on its own?
So now you're responsible not only for yourself, but also for what the AI decides to do.
tim pool
That's right.
john rich
So I'm responsible for something I cannot control.
tim pool
You can control it, don't get in it.
Yeah, or don't turn it off, that's why I don't want one.
If you grab a gun, if you're holding a gun.
john rich
We just made a big circle, Tim, right back to where I was.
tim pool
Check it out, let's say you have a gun, and it misfires, and hits a kid in the head and kills him.
You going to jail?
Malfunction, let's say.
john rich
Yeah, negligence.
tim pool
But let's say, like, You didn't pull the trigger.
You didn't pull the hammer back.
Something happened and it malfunctioned causing it to go off.
Not even that.
Let's say quite literally you pick up a gun and you're holding it and then it goes off and hits somebody and you're like literally everyone saw you.
john rich
It's your fault because the gun was aiming in the direction of another human being which is always a no-no.
Ricochet.
Ricochet?
tim pool
Yep.
john rich
Okay, I guess.
tim pool
The point is, if you pick up a gun and it fires and hits somebody, you're in trouble.
unidentified
Right.
john rich
So the same thing goes wrong with the car?
tim pool
You're in a car and the car stops and causes a pileup?
That's your fault.
john rich
Just because... What if insurance goes up if you have an AI-driven car because you can't control what the AI might do?
Are you more of a liability at that point?
tim pool
Let me ask you this.
A car can brake.
If you're driving your car and you slam the brakes on, abruptly for no reason on a highway and everyone crashes and people get hurt, is it your fault?
You get in trouble?
You do.
So, there's no difference in the mechanism.
You can push a pedal down or you can press a button to turn the computer auto-drive on.
Either way, you slam the brakes.
hannah claire brimelow
I'm kind of with you on this one.
You said, like, if you are at the point where you needed, like, a car that badly, do you want to go anywhere?
I sort of want to get into the part where we have a compound and no one can leave and every skilled person we know and like and trust.
You can leave if you really want to.
I will just not be leaving.
ian crossland
The doors will be closed behind you when you leave.
hannah claire brimelow
It's like agoraphobia, but in more of a prepper, like, on a huge plot of land sense.
ian crossland
What about diesel, you guys?
You got diesel, make your own diesel kind of thing set up?
john rich
No, but I've got, I've got fuel.
You know, people think that 20 or 30 gallons of gas matters.
I mean, it's just, it just won't do much.
tim pool
Right.
john rich
For very long.
That's why- That EMP stuff we're talking about, again, I don't, I don't listen to like somebody on the news or my own opinion or what I think.
I go back and look up, the military has studied all this stuff ad nauseum for many, many decades.
Very, very detailed reports.
And when they go in and every single time it says, if you blacked out the whole country, we would expect 10% to survive a year.
tim pool
Wow.
john rich
In 90 days, it's only 30%.
Yep.
In 90 days.
And here's why.
People don't understand or they don't think about the fact that water, all water, gets pumped by electric pumps.
unidentified
Right.
john rich
All water.
Natural gas is moving through lines.
They got big pumps pushing that stuff, too.
So your hospitals go out.
You don't have water.
Not having water is a big deal.
You can go without food for quite a while.
You can't go without water for more than about 72 hours.
You're done.
So where do you get clean water?
People be drinking water out of the creeks, out of the ponds, and here comes dysentery, here comes cholera, you know, knowing how to purify water.
Did you know that regular, regular old bleach, like what you would put in a washing machine, you put, there's charts, you can go download a chart on it, how many drops of bleach per gallon.
tim pool
Yeah.
john rich
And you can literally get the dirtiest, nastiest water out of a creek out of here in West Virginia.
And if you hit it with that chlorine and let it sit, you can drink it.
tim pool
Not only do we have water stores here, we've got emergency water filter straws.
You ever see those?
john rich
Yep.
tim pool
You can drink the water straight out of the creek right through it.
There's all that garbage out.
ian crossland
The LifeStraw.
tim pool
LifeStraw.
john rich
Do you guys know what a Berkey is?
Oh, you're going to want to see this one.
B-E-R-K-E-Y.
tim pool
Oh yeah, it's a water filter.
We have a water distiller.
john rich
Okay.
tim pool
So you can actually scoop up the gunk water and put it in and it dispels it.
john rich
Okay, well that's kind of what a Berkey does.
So a Berkey, my dad ran across these, my dad was doing mission trips to Africa.
And so he's over there and these people have these big stainless steel looking water can things.
He's like, what is that?
They go, oh, that's a Berkey, and they could basically scoop out muddy water, and the filters are so tense on those things that by the time it gets through, there's nothing but clean water.
ian crossland
It filters fluoride out.
john rich
You can buy them on Amazon.
tim pool
You hang a big tarp up in the morning, and then you have the tarp hung at both sides, and at the bottom, pinched in.
And you know what that does?
unidentified
Dew.
tim pool
The dew collects and pours, and then once it gets too heavy, it falls down and filters and fills up, and you get clean water.
ian crossland
Might be worth getting some of these Berkeys.
john rich
Mission, Arizona.
tim pool
Whilst you're in Arizona.
ian crossland
The filters would be, get like 20 filters for these Berkeys and then it could filter river water, I think.
I don't know if it gets protozoa out.
john rich
It'll do like, yeah, they do like 3,000 gallons or something like that.
It's crazy.
tim pool
We also have dehumidifiers.
Basically just produces water from the air.
john rich
Most people don't think about that stuff.
That's why I say that whole thing on the balloon, everybody went, oh, whatever, it's a balloon.
I'm sure the government's got it.
They're not thinking about what that could possibly be.
tim pool
We've got probably like 20 gallons of mouthwash.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
You know why?
john rich
His breast stinks real bad.
tim pool
Antiseptic.
serge du preez
Yeah, antiseptic, yeah.
tim pool
Mouthwash is alcohol.
It's an antiseptic.
So, you get an infection, take some mouthwash, clean it off, and it'll take care of it.
john rich
And there's some people that hypothesize that if we ever got into a hot situation with China, you know, China makes so much of our medicine.
Antibiotics.
serge du preez
Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally.
john rich
Antibiotics, insulin, a lot of our stuff that you gotta have it, that all they'd have to do is go, okay, no more medicine.
And then, can you imagine, as medicated as America is, and a lot of people really, I mean, if you've got insulin, you've got to have insulin if you've got diabetes.
You have to have it.
What would happen in the country if we shut our medicine off?
So, a lot of people are calling their doctors and going, hey, can you call me in three rounds of amoxicillin, and three rounds of cephalaxin, and three rounds of doxycycline, and put them in a dark room, and they're good for three or four years.
A lot of people are doing that.
tim pool
The scary thing is, diabetics die instantly.
john rich
Yeah.
tim pool
Without refrigeration.
unidentified
Can't store insulin.
Yeah, you have to keep it cold.
john rich
And again, I was telling you about how that Jackery will keep a freezer frozen for 16 hours.
ian crossland
So you get two of those?
Three?
And just run them in parallel?
john rich
Well, a freezer, if you don't open it very often, you freeze it for about eight hours out of 24 and it stays solid as a rock.
tim pool
You know what they used to do, though?
A stone cellar.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
It's about 50, 55 degrees.
Yeah!
So, back in the day, they'd ship ice in, or in the winter, they would collect ice and store it in sawdust in their basements.
And it would last until like, yeah, icebox, until June or July.
And then they would then ship in big blocks of ice from the north, covered in sawdust, into places like New York, and that would last the next several months.
Isn't that crazy?
john rich
Wow.
tim pool
Yeah, you had to get ice shipped in.
john rich
What do you do if you're in a high-rise in Manhattan?
unidentified
They didn't have high-rises.
hannah claire brimelow
I feel like we should have a whole generation of kids who are like, instead of being like, I want to live in the penthouse in this apartment, they should be like, I want to live in an earthship that has a natural way of cooling itself so I can preserve what I have.
It sounds crazy, but it's because you have to be forward-thinking, and I think so many people who are investing their lives into a metropolis lifestyle, they don't think it will ever occur to them, and I'd rather just be safe than sorry.
john rich
Yeah, I think they think nothing's ever going to happen.
There's smart people that got their hands on it, but it's so fragile.
hannah claire brimelow
But every end-of-the-world movie I've ever seen, something happens in the city first.
john rich
Yeah, it's so fragile.
tim pool
Yeah, the EMPs, I don't know if they're going to have the range to wipe out out here.
We've done the nuke map thing on the average nuclear weapon.
We're out of range of everything.
Even the biggest, craziest ones, we're barely... Like, the biggest we know of, we're just outside of its range, where we are now.
We're moving a bit further away, so we're even further out of the range.
And I'm like, we're gonna build a Faraday cage, then we're gonna put a smaller Faraday cage in it.
Then we're gonna put a smaller Faraday cage in that, and we're gonna store some phones, some batteries, and some computers.
john rich
You know you can turn whole rooms into Faraday cages.
tim pool
Yeah, I got a buddy who works on cell and EMF tech for the government contracts and stuff.
ian crossland
Jeremy's actually gonna be in town.
Jeremy Riss, the alien scientist who can build the Faraday cage.
He'll be in town a couple weeks.
tim pool
We should do it!
But for now, we should wrap it up.
So John Rich, thanks for the song.
Thanks for hanging out.
john rich
Yeah, thanks for letting me sing and hang out, guys.
tim pool
Absolutely, this was a blast.
john rich
And girls.
tim pool
And for everybody who chose to remain a member despite all of the drama, I appreciate it.
Look, I'm never gonna bend the knee to anybody who's demanding I do something.
I'm gonna do what I wanna do.
And if at any point you think that what I do doesn't, I don't deserve your membership, then I strongly encourage you to cancel your membership because if you personally don't think I deserve your money, then I don't.
And that's all I can say.
I'm not trying to be a dick and I'm not trying to do, I mean this with the utmost respect.
If I was selling vanilla ice cream and then one day you were like, yo, I think your ice cream is not that good, I'd be like, well, I guess you can't buy it.
Like, don't buy it from me.
I'm not trying to force you to buy it.
But I appreciate everybody who's a member who helps make it all possible.
I really do.
We got a bunch of hard work to do in this culture war.
The weird satanic bullshit kind of freaks me out.
The drama is kind of depressing because You know, when I see all this stuff, not just about Jeremy, but, you know, it's not even about that.
It's the Young Turks.
I'm like, I think humans just prefer this.
They don't, maybe, maybe people don't really want to discover fusion technologies and, you know, space travel.
That's the scary thing.
But you know what?
So long as I do, I'm gonna keep doing my thing.
So thank you all for being members.
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