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Dec. 11, 2022 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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| Welcome to our special weekend show, Sunday Uncensored. | ||
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| Ladies and gentlemen, before we get started, I wanna make an announcement. | ||
| You know, I was talking about how conservatives put too much stock in Time's Person of the Year. | ||
| So I am announcing the first annual Timcast Person of the Year. | ||
| And the winner of this year is... Mr. Bocas! | ||
| We have Mr. Bocas here, of course, on Twitter. | ||
| Can we pull him up here? | ||
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Yes, sir. | |
| And there he is. | ||
| That is Mr. Bocas. | ||
| His name is Bucco, but we call him Mr. Bocas. | ||
| He's a cat. | ||
| He has AIDS and taxoplasmosis. | ||
| He doesn't have AIDS, that's not true. | ||
| Cat AIDS. | ||
| But what he does is, because he's a nice guy, right? | ||
| He's a nice guy. | ||
| He's a jerk. | ||
| I call him a little shithead because he pisses on the floor. | ||
| But, you know, I catch him pissing on the floor and I either spritz him or I carry him to the litter box and then put him in the litter box. | ||
| Here's what happens. | ||
| Little homeboy understands he did wrong, okay? | ||
| He feels bad about it. | ||
| But he doesn't understand what the fuck he did wrong. | ||
| He just knows that when he pisses out there, we get mad and freak out. | ||
| So now what he does is, he walks to his litter box, sticks his head inside, and then pisses outside. | ||
| That's progress. | ||
| And I can't be mad at him because he's trying! | ||
| He's just too stupid! | ||
| Have you guys ever watched My Cat from Hell? | ||
| Have you ever seen that show? | ||
| Jackson Galaxy? | ||
| He's like a rockstar musician and he goes around and helps people that have problems with their cats. | ||
| I would love to have him on the show and have him come out here and do an episode on Bucko and see if we can get him to stop peeing in the house. | ||
| Well, Bucko, if you look at, so there's a mat, there's a litter box, and it's on the mat, and the mat has piss on it, because he knows to pee in the litter box, but he doesn't understand, like, what it means to be in the litter box, right? | ||
| I think it's because it's covered. | ||
| He doesn't want to get in the- No, no, no, he shits, but he, like, when he's only pissing, he walks in halfway with his ass hanging out, and then he pisses on the mat. | ||
| And it shoots horizontally out. | ||
| Mr. Bogus is TimCast's first annual person of the year, but let's talk about the actual story I want to get into. | ||
| It's, uh, you know him, you love him, Dylan Mulvaney, who's threatening you now. | ||
| Threatening you. | ||
| This is one of the most psychotic Fucking things I have ever seen. | ||
| I despise this person. | ||
| It has nothing to do with being trans. | ||
| It has to do with the narcissistic personality disorder. | ||
| Cassandra McDonald says, Dylan Mulvaney almost had me feel bad, then by the end I was like, is this a threat? | ||
| Saying, I'm also very nervous for you because we're coming for you, wrong thinks. | ||
| Let me play a little bit of this. | ||
|
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You know, attempting to enjoy womanhood is incomprehensible to you. | |
| You know, whether it's that I carry tampons, that I'm too feminine, or I call myself a girl, or that I'll never birth a child, well, here's some more good news for you. | ||
| I'm not enjoying my womanhood as much as I was. | ||
| And my pain might be different than your pain, but it's very real. | ||
| So if that was your goal, then congrats. | ||
| But I'm still a woman, and I'm tired, and we don't have to be BFFs, and you don't have to follow me. | ||
| Just please don't call the police on me if we bump into each other in the bathroom. | ||
| You know, my only agenda is to try to find the will to wake up every day and find some ounce of happiness. | ||
| And believe it or not, somehow I love ya. | ||
| And P.S. | ||
| I am also very nervous for you just because Hopefully soon transphobia won't be as tolerated online, but your tweets are forever, and I don't want those to come back and haunt you Okay, oh Okay, my response to this was go fuck yourself asshole first of all | ||
| I don't care about you, what you do, whatever the fuck. | ||
| But I'm nervous for you. | ||
| Because one day we won't tolerate what you're saying. | ||
| Oh, shut the fuck up, you whiny fucking piece of shit. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
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Do you think this is the mask coming off? | |
| Because Tim, you said this is a big character that Dylan's playing, right? | ||
| And maybe this is the excuse to go back to Dylan the boy. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| Look, there are a lot of people I don't care how they live. | ||
| Blair White's absolutely awesome. | ||
| Sorry for constantly saying your name, Blair. | ||
| I really don't give a shit about how someone wants to live, how they want to dress, who they want to be with at home. | ||
| None of it matters. | ||
| But Dylan Mulvaney is the perfect example of an intrusive force who spits in your face and threatens you about what you can or can't say. | ||
| Fuck that. | ||
| Did Dylan get the cops called on? | ||
| Him? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| He's using a guy's name, Dylan. | ||
| He says he's a trans woman, but did he get the cops called on him? | ||
| In a restroom? | ||
| Is that what he's saying? | ||
| He went into a restroom and some woman called the cops on him because he's not a girl, he's a trans woman? | ||
| Narcissistic personality disorder. | ||
| There is a space. | ||
| It is designated for biological females. | ||
| I deserve to be in it! | ||
| And don't you fucking call the cops on me, because I'm nervous for you about what might actually happen to you if you keep saying those things. | ||
| Who was it that was on the show saying this is how communism, I think it was Jesse Kelly, was on last week, and was like, this is how communism finds its way into societies is through vulnerabilities of disenfranchised people, or people that feel like they're less than. | ||
| So they went for the black community, because it was like, oh, you're suffering. | ||
| You're a victim. | ||
| Therefore, society will fix it for you. | ||
| Now give over your power to the government, and we will fix it. | ||
| And Dylan got invited to the White House, and now he's going full like, you better watch what you say, because I would hate for something bad to happen to you. | ||
| Essentially, that's exactly what he's saying. | ||
| Listen, I don't care for threats. | ||
| Those are wrong. | ||
| Don't do it. | ||
| I don't care for being overtly mean to people, you know? | ||
| You don't need to do it, but you're allowed to do it. | ||
| What are we seeing from this video? | ||
| Not that long ago, Dylan Mulvaney had a video about all the tampons for her Barbie pouch. | ||
| And it was effectively, it's like, it's a caricature of women. | ||
| Women don't act this way. | ||
| It's spitting in their face. | ||
| Here's my hiking heels, just mocking women relentlessly. | ||
| And then being like, you shouldn't say anything mean to me about how I'm shitting in the faces of women and trans people. | ||
| No, fuck that. | ||
| Blair White isn't marching around in the forest going, I've got hiking heels! | ||
| No woman is mountain climbing in heels or harking through the forest. | ||
| It's fake. | ||
| It's derision. | ||
| It's mockery. | ||
| But here's what happens. | ||
| Dylan Mulvaney gets flack from it. | ||
| From everyone. | ||
| Left, right, up, down, whatever. | ||
| Trans people. | ||
| And now Dylan's saying, I'm not enjoying this. | ||
| I'm not enjoying it like I once was. | ||
| And Dylan says in this video, I'm only carrying tampons to give to other people. | ||
| Initially, Dylan was talking about her Barbie pouch, but people started saying, stop doing this. | ||
| And now Dylan's saying, okay, okay, I'm not, I'm not doing that. | ||
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He's inspired other men to do like unboxings of tampons and stuff like that and be like in their cars, making TikToks like, oh, let's read the back and see. | |
| Oh, okay. | ||
| The tampons pads and stuff like he's. | ||
| Fooling a lot of impressionable young people, so he's doing a lot of damage. | ||
| So let me play this video for you guys. | ||
| It's infuriating, but you need to hear it. | ||
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I don't want to be a girl, or I'll say woman for this one, because this video is for the women on Twitter who just really don't like me. | |
| Hello ladies! | ||
| We got a lot to cover, but let's first talk tampons. | ||
| I haven't talked about tampons on here lately because I don't use them. | ||
| I'm a woman who doesn't have a uterus. | ||
| I know this. | ||
| And science was my strongest subject in high school. | ||
| I was also shockingly good at math, but I digress. | ||
| I just sometimes carry one in case anybody needs it. | ||
| And that seems to have just set the world on fire in some pretty nasty ways. | ||
| And this is a conversation that's been going on for months. | ||
| I just haven't chimed in because I'm so tired of sticking up for myself over something that was so pure-intentioned. | ||
| But now Twitter is just ablaze, and this week there's some women that are now coming for Tampax, and I want it to clear the air. | ||
| So, I have some amazing news. | ||
| Are you ready? | ||
| I have never worked with Tampax before. | ||
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| The most that happened was they sent me a few boxes of tampons back in April, just in case I bumped into anyone, including yourselves, and I gave them all away. | ||
| I've got a few left. | ||
| And this one's really going to blow your mind. | ||
| Yo, homie, you walking around handing out tampons to people? | ||
|
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It's weird. | |
| Is that weird? | ||
| It'd be grooming if it's to a kid. | ||
| I'm not a lady, but look at that. | ||
| Look at that mug. | ||
| Look, Tampax did an advertisement. | ||
|
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I've never made one dollar off of feminine hygiene products. | |
| So I hope that helps you sleep better at night knowing that. | ||
| And no need to bring Tampax into this. | ||
| But the bigger problem at hand is that you feel me carrying a tampon around is a threat to you and your womanhood. | ||
| How is someone doing something nice so repulsive to you? | ||
| Because listen to this, if a man, whether he was your boyfriend or your husband, could even be your gay best friend, kept a tampon for you at his house just in case you needed it, you'd gush over him. | ||
| You would run to brunch on Sunday and tell all your gal pals that he's so thoughtful and he cares and he listens. | ||
| And then a trans woman does it and all of a sudden I'm the reason that there's a tampon shortage. | ||
| You know, it's not because I'm misogynistic, it's because you're transphobic. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| You know, we gotta work through this. | ||
| And babe, caring for others, it's the bare minimum. | ||
| You know, you might not like me, but I care about you. | ||
| Okay, well let's see what Matt Walsh has to say. | ||
| He says, I'm gonna go out on a limb here and assume that nearly every woman on the planet would be extremely creeped out by a man who carries spare tampons around. | ||
| They would not be gushing over him to their gal pals. | ||
| Sydney Watson says, yeah, this is weird. | ||
| I kind of felt that way. | ||
| That it would be very fucking weird as a dude to put a tampon in my pocket, walk around and be like, ma'am, need a tampon? | ||
| She'd be like, the fuck? | ||
| Get away from me, you fucking creepo! | ||
|
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That would be like women just randomly going up to men and giving them condoms. | |
| Would that be acceptable? | ||
| No, that's more suggestive. | ||
| Imagine if you walk up to a guy and go, hey buddy, I think you need this, and you pull out a big wad of toilet paper and hand it to him. | ||
| Everyone shits, man. | ||
| That's weird. | ||
| Periods are a specific thing. | ||
| This one Twitter user said, I don't need anyone to think about me having my period except for me. | ||
| I don't even want to think about it. | ||
| It's an annoyance that I put as little time into thinking about it as possible like Dylan. | ||
| Maybe your boyfriend, maybe your husband, not some rando on the internet or some random person you meet and have a conversation with at a restaurant. | ||
| I think this conversation was started because Tampax posted something on Twitter saying any person, including male or female, could have their periods. | ||
| That's why you should buy Tampax. | ||
| When was that? | ||
| A couple days ago. | ||
| If you go on their Twitter page, I think you'll see it and it's spurred on a lot of conversations with a lot of people saying, hey guys, if you're bleeding from your dick, tampons not going to help you guys. | ||
| Just a heads up here. | ||
| But there's many of them. | ||
| Yeah, tampax. | ||
| Not all women have periods. | ||
| This is from September 2020. | ||
| Not all women have periods. | ||
| Also a fact, not all people with periods are women. | ||
| Let's celebrate the diversity of all people who bleed. | ||
| So like, if I get a gunshot wound, do I stick a tampon in it? | ||
| Well, if you're in the Russian military, that's what some commanders are telling their soldiers to do. | ||
| What if you get a nosebleed? | ||
| It might work. | ||
|
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I've seen that movie. | |
| She's the man. | ||
| Beavis and Butthead did it. | ||
| Tampons and... South Park did it where they shoved it up their asses. | ||
| I get kind of... Oh yes, yes, yes. | ||
| Is that what's happening here? | ||
| I feel like compassion for Dylan because I can tell, don't, first of all, Dylan, some advice. | ||
| Don't demeaningly call people babe that you don't know. | ||
| Oh, they do. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| They deleted the tweet from, from a, from a week or two weeks ago. | ||
| Like I can see the fake smiling in Dylan's face. | ||
| Like that's fake. | ||
| I can tell you're not happy when you're, you're talking. | ||
| You don't need to fake smile. | ||
| You'll actually feel better if you stop forcing a fake smile. | ||
| It was this one. | ||
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This is the one they deleted. | |
| You're in their DMs. | ||
| We're in them. | ||
| We're not the same. | ||
| Oh no! | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| What the fuck? | ||
| Hey, that's marketing. | ||
|
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What? | |
| What does that mean? | ||
|
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See, so I had this conversation with people around Timcast, and some of the female employees thought this was like, them was a they-them thing. | |
| Like, they were truly offended by this, and I thought it was a joke. | ||
| Like, they mean them by like, your girlfriend. | ||
| Like, you're women. | ||
| Like, it was just a dig at men or something, like a playful joke. | ||
| But they're in hot water, you know? | ||
| I think that's the new wave of marketing. | ||
| Um, and a lot of corporations now are like, fuck it. | ||
| We're just going to create some bullshit just so people talk about us. | ||
| So they buy our shit. | ||
| This is actually really funny. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know what the fuck this is. | ||
| Someone said they were trying to buy tampons, but Walmart offered up mushrooms instead. | ||
| Do you get like heated about the trans movement or trans people in general or anything? | ||
| Do you stay? | ||
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I get heated over the sexualization of our children. | |
| Absolutely. | ||
| Well, Emma, it should be limited to adulthood. | ||
| There's no reason why children should be receiving puberty blockers or making those decisions. | ||
| And we were talking about assisted suicide. | ||
| You are not mentally capable of making those life-determining decisions at those ages. | ||
| So that's where it gets me. | ||
| And it has nothing to do with sexuality, gender identity, whether you are transgender. | ||
| It has to do with the sexualization of children is wrong. | ||
| Period. | ||
| I don't want heterosexual people telling my children about sex. | ||
| I don't want anybody doing that unless it's my choice. | ||
| So that's how I feel in the discussion. | ||
| And I think where conservatives get it wrong is when they conflate the issue by tying it to members of the LGBT community. | ||
| And that's what Democrats are really trying to do. | ||
| They're trying to make it seem that it's an attack on the gay community when no, it's an attack on the hyper-sexualization of children. | ||
| You know, I, I, excuse me, I'm a guy, so I don't know, you know, I'm not knowing a whole lot about these here tampons, but this video that was sent to Tampax, is this how tampons work? | ||
| I was not familiar with that. | ||
|
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What the? | |
| Yep. | ||
| What? | ||
| Hell yeah. | ||
| The weaponization of tampons. | ||
|
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It turns into a rocket ship and goes after... It turned out it was a drone the whole time. | |
| I saw that story of the lady who had her screen door open in California and a mountain lion came in and grabbed her dog and dragged it out. | ||
| If she had one of these things... | ||
| The dog played dead. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And the dog survived. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| And then someone shot at it. | ||
| It ran away. | ||
| And then the wildlife people were like, well, we're not going to do anything because it left. | ||
| Then the next day it came and killed their goats. | ||
| So they tracked it down and killed it. | ||
| That's kind of fucked up because there's video footage of the mountain lion with its babies. | ||
| So it was clearly trying to feed its babies. | ||
| And we were like, well, you ain't eating us. | ||
| Killed it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What about its babies, man? | ||
| What about it? | ||
| Kill them too, I guess, or they're gonna grow up and eat your chickens. | ||
| They'll get revenge. | ||
| They're gonna grow up and be like, my mother was cute. | ||
| Wasn't that the plot of Lion King? | ||
| Yeah, they're writing songs about it right now. | ||
| Is that it? | ||
| You know, I'm like, I'm looking at Tampax's Twitter because we were talking about it, and the whole thing's just really fucked up. | ||
| Like, everything they tweet about is weird jokes about... | ||
| You know, periods. | ||
| Well, if you remember, Disney even had a little scene in one of their movies with the fat blimp character looking for tampons and needing help finding the right tampons for themselves because they were Yeah, there's like a robot movie. | ||
| What was that? | ||
| I forgot the name of it, but there was a scene of it that was pretty disturbing. | ||
|
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I don't know what y'all are watching. | |
| No, this was all over the Twitter space. | ||
| Everyone was sharing the video of this Disney clip of a male or non-binary character that was looking for tampons and needing help finding tampons. | ||
| Here it is. | ||
| You got it? | ||
| The show was called Baymax? | ||
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Oh, Big Hero 6. | |
| Yes, yes, yes. | ||
| Oh, the one about the trans person buying the tampons. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, it was a cartoon. | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| What was it? | ||
| Big Baymax? | ||
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Baymax was the name of the character, the robot. | |
| I see. | ||
| Baymax goes shopping for tampons. | ||
|
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Here it is. | |
| Is there sound? | ||
| Oh, no, there's not. | ||
| What the fuck were they thinking? | ||
|
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Okay, what the fuck? | |
| Which of these products would you recommend? | ||
|
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Okay, what the fuck? | |
| Okay, that was super fucked up, but I just want to point out one thing. | ||
| The trans person who is, uh... Hold on. | ||
| It's like clearly meant to be a trans man. | ||
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Yeah, with the pink striped shirt, that kind of thing. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| Why do you get the ones with wings? | ||
| Once you go on hormone replacement therapy, you don't have your period anymore. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Because they're trying to sell tampons to kids, apparently. | ||
| And then the guy's like, my daughter loves these pads that your daughter goes to. | ||
| Dad, these are my favorite tampons. | ||
|
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It's just so fucking weird. | |
| Well, these are the times we live in, I guess. | ||
| I don't fucking know. | ||
| All I know is the 90s were awesome, and Pizza Hut, and Burger King, and Book It, and, uh, you know, I'm gonna make that hotel. | ||
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They were good. | |
| In my day and age, we didn't have these degenerates out there. | ||
| But the problem with the 90s was- The music was better. | ||
| It spawned- The music was pretty good! | ||
| It spawned 9-11 and everyone just agreed it was real. | ||
| That was the problem with the 90s, like, ignorant bliss. | ||
| And then, when the government's like, kill all those people- And we can go back! | ||
| We can go back! | ||
| I don't think my theme hotel is going to make anybody kill anybody. | ||
| go back! Someone will guide us to kill an enemy and we'll be like, okay, we got to stay | ||
| alert in this weird, sick reality that we live in. I don't think my theme hotel is going | ||
| to make anybody kill anybody. Oh, the fear is themselves. | ||
| You just don't want them to become numb to reality and hide in joy. The fear is suicide, | ||
| to be honest. | ||
| Like, we've talked about it before. | ||
| You make a nostalgia-themed hotel, and some 50-year-old dude's gonna be like, his wife left him, his kids hate him, and he's gonna go back to this 90s room and he's gonna turn on the TV and he's gonna be watching, like, an all-new Simpsons, starting now! | ||
| And he's gonna go... | ||
| Jesus, God. | ||
| You're not wrong. | ||
| I know. | ||
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I think it's the afterwards, because he's seeing it while he's there, that is his reality, but then as soon as he steps outside and goes, oh my gosh, I'm back to the real reality, I think then. | |
| I think they go there to kill themselves. | ||
| They're like, they want to go to the time when their life was the best and feel it, and then they cry knowing it's gone, and then they eat some pills or something. | ||
| Or you get the same guy renting a room over and over and over and you're like, wow, this feels so sad for that guy. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| The Epstein suite. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We do a complex. | ||
| We buy like a studio, like a Hollywood style studio with sets, but then we make every, or you know, we buy a small town. | ||
| That's what we do. | ||
| We find an abandoned town, just, we fix it up and we make everything the 90s. | ||
| So you're not just getting a room, you can walk outside and you're like, His life is good again. | ||
| Sorry, sorry. | ||
| The Hillary Clinton sweets I think would be more appropriate for the name. | ||
| And you could have pictures of her everywhere in the 90s. | ||
| And Monica. | ||
| That's like a horror themed thing. | ||
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That's like a Halloween thing. | |
| That's what I was thinking. | ||
| Bill, didn't you oversee the end of the conflict in the Middle East? | ||
| I think they were like, oh yeah, the Jews and the Palestinians are now allied. | ||
| They became friends in the 90s or something. | ||
| I don't think that ever panned out. | ||
| The news told me it was fine. | ||
| I just go back to sleep. | ||
| I want you guys to imagine this. | ||
| Here's a tweet from Matthew J. Peterson. | ||
| He says, The year is 2005. | ||
| Donald Trump is the star of The Apprentice. | ||
| Kanye West just said publicly that George Bush doesn't care about black people. | ||
| Elon Musk has raised dubious eyebrows by launching Tesla and SpaceX, neither of which has produced a product yet. | ||
| Twitter does not exist. | ||
| I remember that. | ||
| You look at your former self watching the island, and are about to speak, and then head back into your time machine, ain't no one gonna believe you. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| They won't. | ||
| That was right around when I started making YouTube videos. | ||
| I remember it was, uh, Katrina really fucked me up. | ||
| We should, we should really do this sketch, the sketch though. | ||
| It'll be really funny. | ||
| Like Luke going back in time and that's like, you got to grow out a beard and just be like, we'll give you like a leather jacket. | ||
| We'll scuff it up and you'll like, you'll land and you'll go, I only have 15 minutes to warn them all. | ||
| Everyone listen, Donald Trump, after becoming president and They're gonna be like, okay, this dude is completely insane. | ||
| The pandemic, it's gonna kill everybody and then the vaccine comes! | ||
| President of CBS? | ||
| And you're like, no, no, I don't have time for this! | ||
| The president, the president! | ||
| President Donald Trump! | ||
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What? | |
| They're going to the island to rape all the children there! | ||
| Stop the island! | ||
| And it's like, this guy's fucking loony, man. | ||
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Bill Gates! | |
| Bill Gates is gonna do it! | ||
| And like, the computer guy? | ||
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Yes! | |
| But then, we find out that Ian becomes a writer for The Simpsons. | ||
| And then everything that he predicts comes true. | ||
| That's the way to do it in cartoons. | ||
| Ian, hold on. | ||
| I got it. | ||
| Ian and Luke go back in time. | ||
| And then they're trying to warn people, but nobody believes them. | ||
| And then the machine's like, warning, returning to original time period in 10 seconds. | ||
| And then Luke's like, we gotta go, we're out of time. | ||
| And Ian's like, no, we can't, the future! | ||
| And then Luke runs in the machine and he's like, Ian! | ||
| And you're like, I can't! | ||
| And then Luke's like, no! | ||
| And then Ian's trapped. | ||
| And then you're like, there's only one way to do this. | ||
| And then it shows you standing out in front of Fox Studios, holding the thing, saying Simpsons in an address, and you're like, That is right around when I started making YouTube videos. | ||
| I had some sort of divine reckoning in early 06, late 05. | ||
| I wonder if Luke went back in time and reminded me. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| Thanks. | ||
| I want to help Dylan. | ||
| What do we do? | ||
| I think what's happening is working. | ||
| Because Dylan was making these videos that were shockingly offensive to trans people and women, and trans people and women started getting mad at Dylan. | ||
| And that's the thing that the leftists, these psychotic cultists, they were like, cheering for Dylan and inviting Dylan to the White House because they're all mentally disturbed, not realizing that even trans people are like, you're making us look like fucking idiots! | ||
| So now, the only reason Dylan came out and said, I obviously don't use tampons, it's because other leftists and trans people were saying, fuck you. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| I think line too far. | ||
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The mask comes off. | |
| I think Dylan starts becoming, goes reverse to being like an actual boy or a guy, whatever, because he, in that video, he was saying, I'm so sad. | ||
| Like, it's so hard to be a woman. | ||
| Now you guys, it's your fault. | ||
| And he'll just say, it's your fault. | ||
| That's why I went back. | ||
| And then he's Scott free. | ||
| The reason Dylan is likely doing this is performative. | ||
| It's for points. | ||
| It's for social acceptance and it's not working. | ||
| So I agree, Dylan may actually be like, you know what, womanhood wasn't right for me or whatever. | ||
| Or, here's the scarier scenario, detransition is not, it doesn't, like there's damage, you know, there's permanent changes. | ||
| The people who are doing this to their bodies, they can't go back. | ||
| You know, like Chloe Cole had her breasts removed, detransitioned, but now Flat double mistake. | ||
| She'd be a good guest too. | ||
| She's been doing the rounds. | ||
| I think we've been talking. | ||
| Yeah, cool. | ||
| Trying to figure that one out. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm not sure though. | ||
| If Dylan were to say like, okay, you know what, I can't do this anymore. | ||
| I'm not a woman. | ||
| I'm a man or something like that. | ||
| I could see him drawing the ire of people that are in the trans community too. | ||
| So maybe he'd be afraid to do that or, but you know, whatever. | ||
| Well, Dylan already got the ire of the trans community. | ||
| With all the, like, the thing is about saying Barbie pouch and other really shockingly offensive terms is that it pissed everyone off. | ||
| The snide, derisive, the arrogant, the snooty, that's what Dylan's character was, or is. | ||
| And people are just like, you are a bad person. | ||
| Yeah, let me tell you, babe, like, dude, don't talk down to people. | ||
| Not right now, you're not in a position of power right now. | ||
| Dude, the thing, you see the thing where Dylan, like, did the fake breast push on the podcast? | ||
| Mr. Hollywood, I'm right here! | ||
| Like, it's just meant to insult women. | ||
| I think Dylan is just trying to mock women and trans people. | ||
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Is Dylan on hormones, or is it just messed up? | |
| I think so. | ||
| But I think what Dylan does in these videos is a performance. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Whether being trans or not is real, like Blair said, she knows people who know Dylan, and Dylan's actually trans, and I'm like, okay sure, but those videos are fake. | ||
| Here's my hiking heels. | ||
| Like that's not real. | ||
| No real person does that. | ||
| And then Dylan did the thing where it's like, I guess a woman in Hollywood would like press her breasts together and be like, hey there, but Dylan doesn't have breasts. | ||
| And so just like went like that, like on the side of his body. | ||
| And it's just, it's like spitting on people. | ||
| You know, it used to be back in the day, you'd be shamed and told like, hey man, don't fuck, don't fucking do that. | ||
| That's rude. | ||
| This is like, I look at this, I look at what Dylan's doing, as the exact same thing as if a guy put on blackface and started yelling about fried chicken. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| No joke, 100%. | ||
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I don't think this shaming is the issue, though. | |
| I mean, the fact of the matter is Dylan is getting a lot of attention, period. | ||
| And that's what Dylan wants. | ||
| And I think this is just kind of a reinvention, you know? | ||
| It's gonna get old after a while, just being happy. | ||
| I think this victimization is just a new reinvention to get more attention. | ||
| But I think he, you know, after this, he's going to do the next thing, and then the next stunt, and then the bigger thing, and then the bigger thing, always to get attention, always to get people to talk about him, because it's a drug. | ||
| When people get addicted, I mean, before this, he was a white guy, right? | ||
| In society, he's like, okay, well, you know, going to college is going to be difficult. | ||
| Getting any kind of promotion, getting any kind of real job is going to be fucking difficult. | ||
| Fuck it. | ||
| I'm going to hack this shit. | ||
| I'm going to be a girl. | ||
| Right? | ||
| I got all the advantages now in society. | ||
| Oh, shit, everyone's paying attention to me. | ||
| Oh, shit, I'm relevant in people's lives. | ||
| Oh, shit, people are propping me up. | ||
| People are, you know, like, fuck it. | ||
| I want more of that. | ||
| And that's essentially what a lot of the influencers are going through. | ||
| This larger kind of drug of attention, which is, according to some scientists, equivalent to heroin when it comes to addicting people and hooking people for this hit of relevancy, this hit of life and experience that Yeah, it's stressful just in general. | ||
| I mean, you guys all know, you've all been through it. | ||
| And he got famous fast. | ||
| Yeah, very super. | ||
| How many followers does he have? | ||
| Millions, probably. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Maybe everyone's watching what essentially to a lot of people is a car wreck. | ||
| Yeah, it's stressful just in general. | ||
| I mean, you guys all know you all been through it to become famous, | ||
| to get well known. | ||
| I find it to be very disconcerting because you start to I don't know, | ||
| you just believe what people tell you about yourself. | ||
| You see yourself. | ||
| You've got to witness yourself from outside. | ||
| It's jarring. | ||
| To be on top of that, to have some sort of mental—if what he's going through is a disorder or something. | ||
| I think DSM-5 says that transgenderism is a mental disorder, I believe, according to DSM-5. | ||
| That compounds, they compound. | ||
| It's hard enough just to do it just as a normal, confident person to be famous. | ||
| I think fame is the, imagine yin yang, wealth and success is the white portion, and the black portion is fame. | ||
| Like if you really want to curse someone, make them famous with no external resources. | ||
| So you're poor, you're working class, but you're also very, very famous. | ||
| And that would be a curse, that I would say if you really want to make someone's life miserable, that's what you wish for them. | ||
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No, I don't think so. | |
| It's... I don't know how to explain it, but if people know you for a good... The difference is infamous versus famous. | ||
| There's no such thing. | ||
| There's no distinction. | ||
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I think there is. | |
| But continue, explain. | ||
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No, well, I mean, I don't mean to put myself out there, but look at someone like Maya Angelou or Dr. Martin Luther King or, I mean, even Donald Trump or Elon Musk. | |
| Martin Luther King was killed. | ||
| Well, I understand that, but... Elon Musk can't do public events anymore. | ||
| None of these people can. | ||
| You can't go out to restaurants. | ||
| Like, you can't trust that the person won't just spit in your food to say they did. | ||
| You can't trust that someone won't try and fuck with you for the sake of just fucking with you. | ||
| They won't chase you around. | ||
| They won't stalk you. | ||
| They won't hang outside waiting of your house. | ||
| They won't send you weird phone calls just because they want to be by you. | ||
| I have found that's true, but piggybacking on what you're saying, I've found that if you become famous off of bullshit, your fans then think you're real and you know you're bullshit, so you think that they're idiots because they believe you, you're bullshit. | ||
| I found that. | ||
| So becoming famous for bad, fake reasons can cause a lot of mental distress. | ||
| Whereas if you're just being your true self, and the result of that is fame, you just keep being your true self. | ||
| People will make up lies about you. | ||
| And there's nothing you can do about it. | ||
| Then people will try to physically attack you because of those lies. | ||
| The story I love telling is the person went on Twitter and claimed that I showed up to their house in Boston at 2 a.m. | ||
| and turned their TV on, waking up their family. | ||
| And a bunch of people believed it, and they were like, what a fucking piece of shit. | ||
| And I'm like, but people are insane. | ||
| When you're dealing with an online mob of people who are angry for the sake of being angry, They all just start telling lies and then someone else tells a lie because they want to be in the mob too. | ||
| And then all of a sudden they're making up insane stories. | ||
| Then the media gets involved and says, ooh, let's make up one of our own. | ||
| People on the internet are claiming that after Tim Poole said these things, he did this and they just all fake shit. | ||
| So, I think what happens with people like Dylan Mulvaney, what they're now realizing is, uh-oh, this is what you wanted! | ||
| You wanted everyone staring at you and screaming at you, and it ain't fun. | ||
| I don't think Dylan Mulvaney's making a whole lot of money, to be honest. | ||
| A lot of these influencers don't make as much money as famous people normally would have in the past, because they're famous for being famous. | ||
| There's not a whole lot you can offer beyond that, other than, like, Tampax has given me things. | ||
| Please pay me, Tampax. | ||
| Well, Dylan says Tampax hasn't given them any money. | ||
| So, you've got people who become famous, but don't get anything from it other than the suffering. | ||
| So it's a curse. | ||
| I know, but people crave it because they don't know better. | ||
| They think it must be so great to be beloved because they're looking at someone they've never met thinking, man, I want to be like them. | ||
| It must be so great to be them. | ||
| And then it's actually all fabricated. | ||
| It's all fake. | ||
| The whole view of this person's life is manufactured. | ||
| Publicists, PR, staged events, and everyone wants to be like that. | ||
| This is what happens with social media. | ||
| In the early days, or even right now, young women getting depressed. | ||
| They see the posts on, like some girl is like on a boat and she's going like this, and they're like, I wanna be in a boat so bad, I wanna be like that. | ||
| And what they don't realize is, this person and her boyfriend jumped on someone else's boat, took a quick picture, and then got chased off by cops who were screaming, get off that fucking boat. | ||
| People are seeing a fake version of reality thinking it's real, wanting it, then when people start getting it, they're like, holy shit, now everybody hates me and wants to kill me, this is fucking stupid. | ||
| I like pure fame, though. | ||
| I like people that are, like, honest and just doing something and then attention starts to gather around them and they keep going. | ||
| And it's almost like it's not, it is affecting them, but it feels like it's not, like, they're there for it. | ||
| That still results in, no matter what you do, you will have, yin-yang, you will have haters and lovers. | ||
| Like, people will like you, people will hate you, and it's amplified to an extreme degree. | ||
| Speaking from personal experience, two guys just broke into my house and they got shot at. | ||
| Why did they do it? | ||
| We think it was targeted. | ||
| Another person showed up the next day and it was targeted. | ||
| So it's just like, you'd be better off being extremely, like this is why they say when you win the lottery, you don't tell anyone and you hire a lawyer immediately, form a trust, and have the lottery claimed in the name of a gibberish name trust, Gobble Blah Blow Trust. | ||
| Something that's really hard to say, that no one can track, all the money goes in there, and then no one knows you have any money. | ||
| I'm like on the verge of I keep thinking, like, I gotta go make a song with Ye, man. | ||
| I gotta do something that, like, reinvents the world. | ||
| And it's, like, just uber fame. | ||
| Like, I'm like, if I do that, I will—there's no turning back. | ||
| Like, you become known by everybody at that—or whatever. | ||
| But at that point, I'm like, I don't know. | ||
| It's just a sacrifice I gotta make. | ||
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I can't wait and sit by and watch shit fall apart. | |
| Like at least get up there if they kill me when I'm 45 they kill me when I like I don't know I can't you know, take me if you got to take me God do it Well, it's it's what you're willing to Accept, you know, I mean I see it more as opportunity you have the opportunity to influence to change That that's power. | ||
| It just depends on how you use it. | ||
| And even if your time is limited I just see that as I don't know. | ||
| But fame is different from, like, career notability. | ||
| Like, if you're the best engineer in the business, you'll have people who hate you, but you can walk into an engineering conference. | ||
| If you're famous, a plumber, you're an astronaut, and a groundskeeper knows who you are. | ||
| They don't care about your career, they just know who you are, and this means the person who thinks you stole their spoons and hid them on the moon is coming to kill you. | ||
| Career Notability is like you have a following of people who are familiar with the work you've done and you have an opportunity to speak at conferences. | ||
| Fame is the guy down the street, Jim Bob, who is a welder, knows who you are and hates your guts because he heard from his lefty friends on Twitter that you stole someone's cat. | ||
| And now they want to kill you because of it. | ||
| So there's a difference. | ||
| I think it's an opportunity. | ||
| I'm not saying I don't think you're wrong. | ||
| I think you guys probably both speak the truth about it. | ||
| But there is an opportunity in being famous, where you can say something and people believe it, or point people at something and they all look at it, or a bunch of people look at it. | ||
| You can do a lot of good with that power. | ||
| I suppose what I'm saying is, there's a balance to all of it. | ||
| With that influence, the positive, the success, comes the negative. | ||
| And the most positive element is, if you were a billionaire and no one knew, You'd have all that influence. | ||
| You could hire someone to say these things for you. | ||
| You could hire Brad Pitt to do it. | ||
| Look at FTX. | ||
| They get all these high-powered celebrities to do all the mouthpiece and forum. | ||
| You can buy billboards everywhere and no one will know who you are and you'll have no one coming after you. | ||
| But that wasn't ethical. | ||
| Getting someone else to parrot my beliefs, I don't feel like that's ethical. | ||
| Ethics versus reach are two different things. | ||
| If we're saying the benefits of being famous are that you have influence, sure. | ||
| But being rich makes you influential as well, in a different way. | ||
| Now you can call it unethical. | ||
| Sure, fine, I'm not saying it's not. | ||
| I'm saying you are safer. | ||
| You don't have the downside. | ||
| Yeah, that's a lot of rich people don't want to be known, you know? | ||
| Power wants to stay hidden. | ||
| I've kind of been weary of it and kind of careful. | ||
| I can't say it hasn't been on my mind to really push things forward or to try to kind of be in the middle ground because, like, you know, I had conversations about this, you know, with you, Tim, a couple years ago. | ||
| I'm like, I don't know if I really want to be up there. | ||
| There's a lot of risk, there's a lot of reward, too, but it's based on a personal choice. | ||
| So I've kind of been honest, half-stepping it a little bit, because I know if I step things up, there's going to be larger trade-offs. | ||
| You got a billboard in Times Square in four days! | ||
| You put that up! | ||
| I didn't want that! | ||
| In three days, there will be a Luke in Times Square, along with Ian and me. | ||
| So, uh, congratulations, gentlemen! | ||
| Would you guys—it doesn't have to be live shorter life, more fame, longer life, less fame. | ||
| It doesn't have to be. | ||
| It's not binary. | ||
| But if you—do you have, like, a preference for yourself? | ||
| Would you rather—'cause I think we could all be 90-year-old men. | ||
| Still doing this and still be super fit. | ||
| It's possible. | ||
| Like it truly is possible. | ||
| I think it needs to be slow. | ||
| And I think that's that's been kind of my deliberate thinking. | ||
| Because if you look at a lot of people who get attention really fast or a lot of money really fast or anything kind of in that realm really fast, they kind of ruin it. | ||
| They fuck it up and they do some fucked up shit. | ||
| So I think slowly doing this is the key. | ||
| The best point of my life was End of 2018, when I had about 150,000 subscribers on the Tim Pool channel and about 80,000 subscribers on TimCastNews, and I was making probably around $200,000-$250,000 per year just off YouTube alone. | ||
| $250,000 per year just off YouTube alone. | ||
| And then early 2019 when I was making like 300 to 400K and I was like, holy shit. | ||
| It's like, I got money. | ||
| My videos were getting like 25,000 views per video. | ||
| And I had my own house and I had a big projector on the wall with 16 foot screen to watch movies, | ||
| big open ceilings. | ||
| I had a mini ramp in my backyard and I did not need anything else. | ||
| And then I decided to go on the Joe Rogan show, and this is the point. | ||
| That, for me, is the point where I should have been done. | ||
| But I don't care about the money. | ||
| I don't care about the risk. | ||
| I don't care about all these things. | ||
| They're outright negatives. | ||
| I care about fixing this shit. | ||
| Telling people what the fuck is going on. | ||
| And I want things to be better. | ||
| I want to call out the bullshit. | ||
| I'm sick of the fucked up bullshit. | ||
| I'm sick of the politicians. | ||
| I'm sick of the Democrats. | ||
| I'm sick of Mitch McConnell and the established Republicans. | ||
| I'm sick of the cops. | ||
| And I want to do something about it. | ||
| The coolest thing? | ||
| Now I can buy billboards saying fuck you to these cops. | ||
| So What I would personally prefer is to not be doing any of this, but I am like emotionally | ||
| Obligated, as it were. | ||
| When Rogan said, come on the show, I was like, well, I have to do it. | ||
| I have to tell people what's going on. | ||
| No, it's not because of me, it's because I saw this thing, and Joe got it wrong. | ||
| Joe, you gotta tell the people, man. | ||
| And Joe had me on a tell the people, and then I started getting more followers, and then every day, this company grows, not because I'm trying to make it grow. | ||
| It grows because it's like, oh, You know, we're booking guests for Pop Culture Crisis, we need a new driver. | ||
| Like, we need someone who can do guest coordination for the new show. | ||
| And I'm like, oh, okay, hire him. | ||
| Then we hire that person. | ||
| Now it's like, okay, now we're reaching this certain level, we have a whole bunch of employees, we need a bigger office. | ||
| And I'm like, oh, okay, well, I guess we should just build a bigger office. | ||
| Now we're building a bigger office. | ||
| Then it's like, oh, yeah, we're gonna start, you know, every day, there's something that grows inadvertently. | ||
| And it's just growing. | ||
| That works like what Luke was saying about going slow. | ||
| It's better than getting like $200 million investment and then hiring 700 people and having, you know, it's way better to do it from the bottom up. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| I'm not saying that it's fast or slow. | ||
| I'm saying it's not intentional. | ||
| It's not growing on purpose. | ||
| Like, you know, Shane just did that Ye article. | ||
| Shane got invited to go hang out with Ye. | ||
| Scott Adams was raving about how awesome the article is. | ||
| And now we're like, oh, okay, cool. | ||
| And Shane's like, I'll do another one. | ||
| And I'm like, here we go. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| It's getting bigger. | ||
| I got a vision of us, of like the story, you know, sometimes you watch a show or beat a video game. | ||
| It's like, at the end, it's like, well, Luke went on to found a colony of 10,000 individuals working for self, you know, freedom and rights. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Ten years later, they killed each other in a bloody massacre. | ||
| How dare you? | ||
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And then it was like your negative, nancy, pessimistic thinking. | |
| It was like, and Tim? | ||
| Well, Tim's in a van down by the river doing what he always wanted to do. | ||
| And it shows you, like, hanging out with friends, like, with a grill. | ||
| As he goes, kills the local town village people in a bloodbath murder. | ||
| Here's how I imagine the movie is going to be. | ||
| It's going to be, like, some dude hosting a show. | ||
| All hell's going to break loose and they're going to be like, the only way to solve this is to find Tim Pool. | ||
| And they're going to be like, but he's been gone for 20 years. | ||
| And then I'm going to be like chopping wood in the, you know, by a river. | ||
| And I'm going to be like, I left that life behind. | ||
| That was a long time ago. | ||
| Huge beard, ripped. | ||
| Have a dog. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then it's like, you have to come back. | ||
| We need you. | ||
| I'll be like, no! | ||
| And then I throw the axe with the tree. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| That's a funny vision. | ||
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What about you, Scott? | |
| What's your plan 30 years from now? | ||
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I'm not sure. | |
| I just, I get my happiness and my fulfillment from serving others. | ||
| So I think I'm always going to have a life of some sort of service. | ||
| And I think it just comes down to your intent. | ||
| You know, I never intended to have the platform that I have, but I feel an obligation now that I have it to do good. | ||
| As much good as humanly possible. | ||
| And so I think I'll live a life of service, philanthropy, whatever that looks like. | ||
| But I understand that I need to have the means in order to accomplish that vision and I don't know I think I'm open to whatever I feel like whatever I do I'll be successful at it and so maybe I'll be a jack-of-all-trades and and maybe a master at none, but Every so often better than a master of one But a mess. | ||
| Yes, exactly. | ||
| So I don't know where I see my life in 30 years. | ||
| Quite frankly, you know, I just was thinking to myself the other day, we live our lives always planning for the future, always planning that there will be a future. | ||
| And I think so often we lose the perspective of living in the now. | ||
| And I think especially having been so close to death, I'm understanding we can't always plan to have a future and I need to do more to accomplish what I want sooner rather than later. | ||
| So I'm not sure there will be 30 years. | ||
| You know, one of the things that makes me believe in God is that I 100% would rather quit all of this and go live in a van down by the river, go skate when I feel like skating, play guitar on the roof in a crisp autumn night, but I just can't do it. | ||
| I can't. | ||
| I'm not allowed. | ||
| There's just like... | ||
| I would love to get in my van and go drive down to Arizona and go into the mountains in the cold night and just sit back with the movie on and just be like, fuck all this shit, I feel good. | ||
| Exercise, play music, trigger those endorphins, walk around in a random place looking at weird ass shit, but I can't. | ||
| It's like there is nothing in me that would ever allow me to do that. | ||
| So I wake up every day, and I get to work, and it's the craziest thing. | ||
| I have no boss, but I feel physical pain if I don't do this. | ||
| Literally, genetic degradation, I think. | ||
| I think it is literal pain. | ||
| It is literal pain. | ||
| I don't know if you guys have been in the zone. | ||
| My nightmares, you wanna know what my nightmares are? | ||
| In my nightmares, I wake up, and it's 9.43, and I'm like, oh shit, I'm not gonna get my fucking show up. | ||
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I had this with Forgetting Lines. | |
| And he envisions Bocas with the head in the litter box and he knows what's about to happen. | ||
| That's funny. | ||
| I went in like 2010, I got afraid of being famous and I dipped out for about a decade of just doing this, of serving the community, the people. | ||
| And it was literally, like what you're saying, my body was starting to die. | ||
| My genetics were shutting down. | ||
| It was like, you're not needed, you're not doing anything for people, you don't need to be here. | ||
| You were defying God's plan. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And I'm not anymore, and I feel way better now. | ||
| I look better, too, when I watch myself. | ||
| I wouldn't say I feel better. | ||
| I would just say, like, if I were to wake up tomorrow, get in my truck, and be like, I'm just gonna go fishing, it would just be, it would be, it would be pain. | ||
| It would be like ripping something out of my chest. | ||
| Gotta work. | ||
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I would feel guilt. | |
| That's what it is. | ||
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Because we know that we have the potential to affect real change. | |
| And so doing that and living that life of just singularity would be painful knowing that you're not optimizing your full potential. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| All right, let's wrap it up there because we've gone a little long. | ||
| Scott, it's been a blast. | ||
| Thanks for hanging out, man. | ||
| A pleasure, pleasure. | ||
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| And to all of our members, you make this possible. | ||
| We love you and we're so thankful. | ||
| We're going to be sending out those. | ||
| We've actually got a bunch of people responded. | ||
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