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Dec. 9, 2022 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Timcast IRL - TWITTER FILES 2 CONFIRM Conservatives BLACKLISTED, Bongino, Kirk, Etc. w/Scott Presler
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ian crossland
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luke rudkowski
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unidentified
Oh, we're streaming.
tim pool
My bad.
I'm not even paying attention to what's going on.
So I think we went live.
Oh, yeah.
Hey, there we go.
All right, everybody.
What you just got to watch is me accidentally pressing the live button while we were still trying to set up the screen.
So that was fun for you.
Well, uh, we're a little bit frantic here because the Twitter files are dropping as... as we sit here.
So, you know, I come up to the studio, and I see Barry Weiss, he starts tweeting, and I'm like, come on, you know, they do this thing where the tweets go really, really, really slow.
But we got some big bombshells.
This is, uh, hard proof that the Twitter execs like Vijaya were lying.
I mean, again.
Dan Bongino, Charlie Kirk, among those who were actually suppressed and shadowbanned on Twitter, hard confirmation.
They even posted images.
Now, we've known about this a bit, but this is direct confirmation of them lying.
A lot of this stuff we've seen, and it's always an accident, right?
Now we know it's not an accident.
There were stories about shadowbanning.
I think Ronna McDaniel had been shadowbanned and other members of the RNC.
And Twitter said, oopsie, it was a mistake.
It's always a mistake.
And every single time something happened, it was a mistake.
It was a mistake.
It was a mistake.
And now we know that their engineering teams are actually like, no, we were actually doing all that on purpose.
So this is the big breaking story.
It's currently developing.
And we're going to go through all this.
Plus, we've got a bunch of other stories.
You may have briefly seen the The story, Elon Musk is being sued because, uh, well, they're claiming that he's discriminating against women because the people who got fired were disproportionately women relative to, like, the amount of women who got fired was a higher percentage rate than the amount of men who got fired or whatever.
I think it actually just, um, plays into that meme where Twitter before was a lot of women and Twitter after wasn't.
But Elon just said, who wants to work hard, and if you don't, you can leave, and if you do, you can stay, and now they're suing, so... That one's pretty interesting.
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And the reason I say that is because joining us today is the man who is probably, if there's any one person who should take credit for the Republicans getting the House, is Scott Pressler.
scott presler
Thank you.
Well, you know, Can you hear me okay?
tim pool
Gotta grab the mic.
scott presler
Am I in?
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
ian crossland
You can move the mic around with you when you go.
tim pool
Oh, excellent.
So who are you?
What do you do?
scott presler
I guess I'm a long-haired conservative activist, kind of nomadic, traveling the country and just helping to make sure that we're defeating the Democrats and electing Republicans.
tim pool
Right on.
scott presler
I guess that's my story.
tim pool
You've cleaned up cities.
You've registered Republicans to vote.
And despite everything we saw in the midterms, Republicans are taking the House, meaning we're getting investigation.
The AOC is going to be investigated.
Hopefully we see investigations of Joe Biden.
They're saying they're going to do it.
And I got to say, I think a large amount of that credit goes to you.
scott presler
Thank you.
tim pool
If you weren't registering voters at the levels you were doing and the activism you were doing, I don't know if Republicans could have even taken the House, to be completely honest.
scott presler
Well, and it wasn't even, like, blood-red Republican areas.
I mean, really, it was Lee Zeldin in New York, of all states, and ballot harvesting in California that really gave us this narrow majority in the House.
And I think that says something that let's change up our strategy.
And that's in part why I'm wearing this shirt.
And it's not that I'm saying that we're going to do anything illegal.
We're going to cross every T, dot every I, but we're going to use the same tactics the Democrats have been doing.
And if those tools are at our disposal, I think we quite frankly would be foolish not to use them to our advantage.
tim pool
Just got to stay up on it because by the time 2024 comes around, they're going to have other tactics, you know?
scott presler
Well, and let me tell you, we're going to get so good at ballot harvesting that they're going to try to ban it themselves.
And that's the goal.
Yeah.
You know, I want them to be like, we should have never done it.
It's kind of like Harry Reid with the Supreme Court, right?
They busted the filibuster and it was thanks to Harry Reid.
And I'm not talking ill of the departed.
I want to say this as nicely and respectfully as possible.
It's because of Senator Harry Reid.
That we have three conservative Supreme Court justices today that were given to us by President Donald Trump.
You know, so every tactic that the Democrat uses can be used against them for Republican policies.
tim pool
Well, there we go.
All right, man, thanks for joining us.
We'll talk about that and more.
We got Luke hanging out.
luke rudkowski
Hey, guys, my name's Luke Godowsky here of We Are Change, and today I'm wearing a shirt that dropped Monday, and it came in just in perfect time for tonight's Twitter file release, which I'm keeping an eye on.
I think we are on number...
17 right now, so we still got a lot to cover.
The shirt reads, uh, Elon Musk did not Epstein himself, uh, with, of course, the remarks he said this past Sunday and Monday.
I think it's worth noting this and highlighting this.
If you agree with that, you could get the shirt on the best politicalshirts.com because you do.
That's why I'm here.
Thank you so much for having me.
ian crossland
You know, a lot of people do political science, and they talk about politics, and they think about ideas, and they write stuff on paper, but you're like a political engineer that actually is there building the thing by being on the ground and moving pieces around.
It's pretty impressive.
Thanks for coming again, Bob.
scott presler
Thank you.
ian crossland
Last night I had a chance to talk with Bryson Gray.
I tapped in at the very end of the live episode.
We did a little bit after the show, but then after the after show, Bryson and I went deep for like an hour and a half on Christianity, Judaism, Islam.
It was fantastic.
He's very knowledgeable.
I love you, Bryson.
Episode is not up yet, though.
I think it's going to go up this weekend.
We're probably going to put it up, Tim, you were mentioning, maybe this weekend when there's no other videos dropping.
Maybe tomorrow.
Highly recommend.
It's going to be on TimCast.com.
Check it out.
It was a great, great time.
And if you haven't got a copy of my book yet, Writing in the Dark.
It's really not, it's very weird.
You wrote it in the dark!
Literally, in my car when I was homeless in New York in a very dark period of my life.
So there's a metaphor there, you know, if you ever want to get to see some of the inner workings, man, you can go pick up one of those on Amazon.
Writing in the Dark by Ian Crosland.
What's happening, Kellan?
unidentified
I'll second what you said, Ian.
I think that Bryson Gray aftershow was pretty great, so once we have that up on TimCast, I'll surely tweet it out.
But yeah, please check it out.
I'm Kellan, filling in for Serge, and I'm ready to get started.
ian crossland
Yeah, Kellan and Serge were with us last.
It was the four of us.
And us.
Actually, Bryson's girlfriend came in at one point.
I was talking to her.
It was really cool.
Really awesome.
tim pool
Let's get into this big news, ladies and gentlemen.
We've got the Twitter thread from Barry Weiss.
The Twitter Files Part 2.
Twitter's secret blacklists.
I will not waste your time.
Dr. J. Bhattacharya Was arguing that COVID lockdowns would harm children.
He was placed on a trends blacklist and also has this flag, recent abuse strike, whatever that means.
Then we have Dan Bongino, who was search blacklisted.
And he also had something called a notification spike.
I don't know what that means.
You can see he had no strikes, but they put him on a blacklist.
That look, and it says multiple accounts, Twitter blue verified, not safe for work view.
I wonder what SPMA means.
Charlie Kirk.
Do not amplify.
Recent abuse strike and notification spike.
Multiple accounts, not safe for work view.
Interesting.
What does that mean, multiple accounts?
Are they accusing these individuals of personally operating multiple accounts?
ian crossland
Sounds like it, but I think that that's a bannable offense.
tim pool
Right.
scott presler
Or maybe it's because he's got, like, you know, Turning Point USA is his organization, so he's in charge of several different accounts.
tim pool
Twitter denied that they shadowbanned people.
They said that they didn't do it, and they certainly didn't do it on ideology.
But then, the funny thing is, you get this story.
First, DevinTheDailyDot, Twitter insists it's not shadowbanning conservatives.
And then I think, is this one right here?
Twitter appears to have fixed shadow ban of prominent Republicans like RNC Chair and Trump Jr.
Spokesman.
So that was July 25th, 2018.
And then this story, this was July 27th, 2018, saying they're not, they're not doing it.
They're not doing it.
It was updated in May 2021.
I wonder why.
So this is, uh...
We all knew.
But once again, Twitter files are delivering hard proof.
Conservatives are being banned, shadow banned, manipulated, de-amplified, de-boosted, whatever.
And the story's currently developing.
Barry Weiss says, this is funny, they said they don't shadow ban everybody, they do visibility filtering.
They call it, uh, VF refers to the ability to limit the scope of a particular tweet's or individual's discoverability to block select users' posts from ever appearing on the trending page and from inclusion in hashtag searches, all without people knowing.
Now I have to wonder...
They did this to Dan Bongino.
He uses Twitter as a business.
For his business.
Is this a breach of contract?
If I enter into a contract with you and you secretly apply restrictions against me, are they breaching their contract?
Or is the argument going to be, no, no, the terms of service say that we can do all of these things to you.
ian crossland
I'm not familiar with the terms enough.
I would imagine, because it's a free to use service, that you really don't have any recourse to sue them if they're screwing with you, but I don't know.
I don't know what the promise was.
tim pool
Check this out.
This is where it starts getting crazy.
Quote, we control visibility quite a bit, and we control the amplification of your content quite a bit, and normal people do not know how much we do.
How much we do?
One Twitter engineer told us.
Two additional employees confirmed.
The group that decided whether to limit the reach of certain users was the Strategic Response Team, Global Escalation Team, or SRTGET.
It often handled the 200 cases per day.
But there existed a level beyond official ticketing, beyond the rank and file moderators, following the company's policy on paper.
That is the Site Integrity Policy, Policy Escalation Support, known as SIPPES.
The secret group included Head of Legal Policy and Trust Vijay Gade, the Global Head of Trust and Safety Yoel Roth, subsequent CEOs Jack Dorsey and Parag Agrawal, and others.
It's where the biggest, most politically sensitive decisions got made.
Think high follower count, controversial.
Another Twitter employee told us.
For these, there would be no ticket or anything.
Take a look at this.
Libs of TikTok.
It says, do not take action on user without consulting the SIPPES.
Really, really interesting stuff.
stuff. They mentioned that Rijek had been suspended several times. You can see libs
of TikTok has a recent abuse strike, notification spike, and is trend blacklisted. Two strikes,
high profile it says, multiple accounts not safe for work view. So, you know, how much
of, uh, how much of this is just kind of like, yeah, okay, we know.
luke rudkowski
Uh, having the receipts here, I think is absolutely important. I, I,
I think there's going to be a bigger implications here because it wasn't just these few accounts that we mentioned here.
Barry Weiss in the tread number 12 specifically documents and says how there was 20 cases a day of individuals being individually targeted and attacked as Twitter was going on and publicly saying that we were absolutely not shadow banning.
The corporate media was regurgitating their talking points.
You could see, I just retweeted the official Twitter account from 2018.
They said, quote, people are asking us if we shadow ban.
We don't.
Read more to get all the facts.
They're not facts here.
Again, this is an official Twitter account tweeting this a couple years ago, gaslighting people, lying to people as they were manipulating our social discourse.
And we know that when they do this, they could decide and determine not only the outcome of elections, but have huge, major effects on society with the power to essentially control people's minds.
This is next level stuff.
tim pool
I want to talk later about Brittany Griner and Paul Whelan.
Is his name right?
unidentified
Paul Whelan.
tim pool
Paul Whelan.
Am I getting it wrong?
Yes.
There's this article from Jordan Schachtel, I think it is, outlining how the Biden administration intentionally ignored this guy and opted for Brittany Griner.
And even NBC initially reported, I think it was NBC, That Russia said you can have one or the other, not both.
And so, Obama was like, give us the basketball player.
Showing that he doesn't care about our Marines or the people who are overseas or whatever.
He had the option.
He didn't take it.
I saw that and I just felt like I need to stress to everybody.
Joe Biden does not represent you.
He does not represent any of us in this room.
He does not represent the Marines or the Army.
He represents his cult.
The President, the Democrats in the Senate and Congress are cult members.
You do not exist to them.
There was no consideration for a former Marine when they were doing a prisoner swap with the Merchant of Death, an arms dealer.
Because Joe Biden said, why would I care about that guy?
I want you to think about it this way.
Right now in this country, what's happening?
Let's say that there's a hostage situation and you're outside and the hostage taker says, I'll only release one person, your daughter or John Smith.
And you're like, who's John Smith?
And they'll be like, well, he's a decorated war hero.
He saved a box full of puppies the other day.
Give me my daughter.
My point is, Joe Biden, when he looks at the potential of this, he doesn't think about the American people.
He thinks about his cult and his ideology and what earns him those points with his crowd.
He is not representing the United States of America.
I mentioned this back during the COVID lockdowns.
When Florida was not locked down, when South Dakota was not locked down, and other conservative states were not locked down, and Joe Biden came out and said, we're locking down for these reasons, and we're going to have to do this, that, or otherwise, and I'm like, well, who's he talking to?
ian crossland
He keeps tweeting at me to tell me to get my vaccine.
Get a vaccine.
Joe Biden's not even a doctor yet.
tim pool
He's not talking to you.
ian crossland
He's not tweeting at me, you're right.
He's just tweeting it out, and I'm reading it like he's not a doctor.
tim pool
What I'm saying is, when Joe Biden came out and said, everyone, we need to do these things, he wasn't talking to any of us in this room or any of you watching.
They don't see us as part of the same country as them.
That's just a reality, and this is exemplified just so hilariously.
This is an issue I have with conservatives.
Time Magazine chooses Zelensky, and what do conservatives do?
They go, I can't believe Time Magazine chose Zelensky as Person of the Year, and it's like, first of all, why would you read Time Magazine?
They're the ones who published that article about fortifying the election.
They don't have any real circulation anymore.
They're not culturally relevant, but conservatives view the left as culturally relevant and as the epicenter of America and American culture for some reason, and the left views them as creepy weirdos who have nothing to do with what this country is doing.
scott presler
Well, and I think this is how we're different.
Like, this is where I actually get some pushback from my followers.
If I'm America First, that means that I want to put every American first, even the commies, even people that disagree with me because I value upholding my citizens' rights.
And so even with Brittany, you know, I was getting pushback from saying, yes, we do need to secure her freedom, even if she broke Russian law, even if she doesn't stand for the flag or doesn't stand for our freedoms and freedom of speech.
And even when some people are saying, you know, to leave cities and to leave California behind and they chose this and let them suffer the consequences of their votes.
No, I don't think that's an America First perspective.
We need to be fighting for freedom everywhere.
Now, with that being said, does that mean that I think that we should trade the merchant of death and Russian arms dealer while the very country Russia and Putin are invading Ukraine.
All I can see from this is I think there's a very real possibility that through his connections with his freedom now we could see Putin gaining even more arms to use against Ukraine.
Which what does that mean from us?
That means that we are going to be sending another 74 billion dollars to Ukraine to To solve the problem that was just exacerbated by our very president.
And that's kind of where my head is at in this.
And I say not another dime for Ukraine.
I was already at, if we're securing Ukraine's border while we're not securing ours, why should we be sending them any money?
But the fact of the matter is the United States is creating a problem while also trying to be the solution.
And the only people that are suffering from this are us.
tim pool
I met a guy, he was, I think he was a captain in the army, I think?
I can't remember.
I don't know how the ranking stuff works.
But he said he retired.
He was planning on staying in until he was too old.
He wanted to be, you know, a careerist or, you know, first full career.
And then he's in his mid-30s and he said he was resigning his commission because of the wokeness that's happening in the military.
And so I see that, and I'll say it, you know, they're shutting down prisons, they're releasing criminals, crime is rampant, and the politicians keep, like the Democrats in these cities, keep doing the same thing.
And I'm like, isn't it obvious at this point?
It's because you are not a part of what they are doing.
When they say our democracy, replace, when they say our democracy, replace that with cult.
And then remember that you're not a part of their cult.
So when Joe Biden comes out and says, these far-right extremists are a threat to our cult, then you need to understand what he's really saying.
He's not talking about the United States.
He's talking about something that excludes you specifically.
ian crossland
Yeah, the United States is a plural.
The United States are a thing.
It's a bunch of states that are united.
We are united.
And if someone in the federal government is trying to override that and act like they're the one that resembles the states united, then they're failing.
tim pool
Let's continue on with this thread here.
The number 17 tweet from Barry Weiss gets really, really interesting because now you start to see that Twitter was lying about their bias.
Check this out.
Barry Weiss says the account, Libs of TikTok, which Chaya Rajchik began in November 2020 and now boasts over 1.4 million followers, was subjected to six suspensions in 2022 alone.
Rajchik says each time she was blocked from posting for as long as a week.
Twitter repeatedly informed Rychik that she had been suspended for violating Twitter's policy against hateful conduct.
But in an internal SIP PES memo from October 2022, after her seventh suspension, the committee acknowledged, quote, Libs of TikTok has not directly engaged in behavior violative of the hateful conduct policy.
They were lying.
ian crossland
That's actionable.
scott presler
Shocker.
ian crossland
I think that's legal action right there.
tim pool
I think this is, right here, actual malice.
Libs of TikTok, Chaya.
Lawsuit time.
If they publicly stated you violated their hateful conduct policy, but then internally said you didn't, that means they knew they were lying.
But here's the thing.
Does she sue Elon Musk now?
ian crossland
Yeah, Scott, you mentioned that before the show too.
What's the process of a lawsuit in this situation?
Do you go after previous ownership?
scott presler
I would think so.
I mean, you would have to, who was the decision maker?
Was it Vijaya?
I would go after the individual person as opposed to Twitter, the company, because clearly all of this was done before the Elon Musk administration.
luke rudkowski
Well, there's names being named here, a part of their strategic response team, and the group's name, and who was heading them, and it looks like Vijaya was at the head of many of these important decisions.
We go back in the tweets, and, you know, the documents are here.
It shows us exactly who was making these decisions, why they were making them, how they were making them up, and how a lot of this was just absolutely arbitrary, especially when it came to hypocritical moves, especially when it came to Libs of TikTok being doxed.
The doxing of Libs of TikTok garnered, what was it, I think Barry Weiss says 10,000 likes, and that wasn't stopped, but her doing something that they construed on the technicality was, which wasn't even, you know, correct, which they knew.
tim pool
10,000 likes on this doxing tweet, and they said, no, it's fine.
I had someone post an insane thread with an address and Twitter told me they would not take it down.
unidentified
And I was like, okay, whatever.
tim pool
Then it leads to exactly what you'd expect it to lead to.
They claimed their justification for removing libs of TikTok and the suspension was indirectly violating their policies by tweets that either intend to incite or led people to then harass.
So, not inciting, not harassing, but because she posted video and someone else did, well, that's indirect, so we're going to suspend her even though it doesn't violate our policies.
However, you post an address and, sorry, nothing, in an internal Slack message.
Twitter employees spoke of using technicalities to restrict the visibility of tweets and subjects.
Here's Yoel Roth, Twitter's then-head, then-global head of trust and safety, in a direct message to a colleague in 2021.
He wrote, Amazing.
A lot of times, SI has used technicality spam enforcement as a way to solve a problem created
by a safety under-enforcing their policies.
Which again, isn't a problem per se, but it keeps us from addressing the root cause of
the issue, which is that our safety policies need some attention.
Amazing.
Six days later in a direct message with an employee, blah blah blah, Roth requested more
research to support expanding quote, non-removal policy interventions like disabling engagements
and deamplification slash visibility filtering.
Roth wrote, the hypothesis underlying much of what we've implemented is that if exposure to misinformation directly causes harm, we should use remediations that reduce exposure and limiting the spread and virality of the content is a good way to do that.
In other words, these people are saying, Your ideas lead to things that we don't like, regardless of what that may be.
We are going to stop people from being able to see what you post.
And then they had the audacity to go publicly and say, we don't shadowban conservatives.
Now, here's the funny thing.
The whole time they were doing this, I was saying, it's a semantic game.
They'll say, we don't shadowban anybody.
It's called visibility filtering.
It's totally different.
They would say, we did not shadow ban anyone for being conservative.
We shadow banned them for misgendering someone.
Of course, liberals and conservatives have, you know, opposing views on what misgendering is, so of course they're literally doing it based on the political ideology or political values of the individual.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, I didn't punch you in the face.
I just threw my fist at your face.
So that's technically not the same thing, right guys?
It's absolutely incredulous.
It's absolutely insane.
tim pool
Congress says, you know, Ms.
Gadde, is there a door on the front of Twitter's building?
No, there isn't.
There's no door?
No, there's not.
What do you mean there's not?
Well, what we have is a large pane of glass on hinges with a handle that, when you pull, it actually moves on the hinge, creating an opening for which you can move through, but it's not a door.
What?
It's the deconstruction of language, man.
That's the game they play.
ian crossland
And ethically, the idea that bad information... How did this guy Yoel phrase this?
That bad information...
know what he said, but he basically was insinuating that getting misinformation
will make people evil or whatever, so show them less information. But I think
that's like, it's like saying that if a virus makes you sick, don't don't expose
But we know that immune system is a real thing and you need a little bit of exposure to enhance your immune system so that you can handle it when it inevitably comes around.
Misinformation will inevitably come around.
You need to be resistant to it.
You need to understand it and be able to spot it and question information when you see it.
But just making it so people don't ever get a chance to be exposed to it is not the way to make people stronger.
That's my belief on ethics on this one.
tim pool
Well, you know, one of the craziest things, I love the amount of weird
flack we're getting from all these lefty organizations about the Ye stuff.
Someone super chatted, because I don't know, I may have missed it, that Ye said to Alex Jones,
maybe I shouldn't have singled out an entire group of people and just pointed out that's the banks.
Something like that.
Someone commented that.
I don't know if they actually said that, but if that is the case, it shows you how these conversations actually do good.
It shows how, on Twitter, there's that famous story of the Westboro Baptist Church woman who got de-radicalized by being on Twitter and saying these things, and then people countering, and then eventually she was like, okay, maybe I'm wrong.
I feel like what they really want, they want villains.
You guys, have you seen that, what's that group of feds that marches around pretending to be conservative activists?
luke rudkowski
Patriot Front.
tim pool
Oh yeah, are they feds?
Do we know that?
scott presler
I think they glow.
tim pool
You think they glow?
So anyway, look, everybody sees that group and they're like, that's not, that can't be real, right?
They need villains.
They need something to justify their laws.
That's why they want people to get violent.
Don't get violent.
It's the one thing they know how to respond to.
So, if they can't get it, they fake it.
The FBI gets like, what, 12 FBI agents get two crackpots and then keep elbowing them, being like, come on, kidnap this lady.
And they're like, I guess.
unidentified
Aha!
We got you!
tim pool
And then they have this big mock trial and then try to lock these guys up.
They need villains.
luke rudkowski
But it's essentially what the CIA has been doing with American foreign policy for the last few decades, going all the way back to the Mujahideen in Afghanistan that became the Taliban, going back to, of course, The rebels in north of Iraq that became ISIS and in Syria that of course were there against the regime because we needed regime change and I could keep going on and on and on but there's there's a long history of setting up your opposition in order to give yourself an excuse to have a strict
Tougher, more brutal force down.
Yeah, the Patriot Act is another example of it.
But these tweets are still coming in right now.
Blair White just tweeted, the Jack redemption arc is over.
After, of course, we're finding out through these disclosures that Jack Dorsey was on board.
When implementing this for, quote, civic integrity.
This is not civic integrity.
This is the destruction of dialogue, of conversation, of people being able to honestly have conversations with each other.
And they stood in the middle of that and said, no, we're going to control what goes into your mind.
We're going to control what you can say and cannot say.
We're going to control who gets to see these larger ideas.
The best idea won't win.
My idea will win.
And that's just disgusting, patronizing, messed up behavior.
I'm just going to let everybody in on some insider information.
to controlling every aspect of your life and that's exactly what these people
tim pool
want. I'm just gonna let everybody in on some insider information.
It's nothing crazy, but I've frequently hit up Jack and asked him to come on the
show. He's a year ago he He said yes when when he had time.
It's been a year.
So I hit him up again.
I'm like, you know, it's about that time.
It's the annual ask Jack to come and have a conversation and I understand by like coming out and saying this and being critical of him the likelihood that actually wants to come on as low but what I think of Jack Dorsey is that He built a sewer, and then he crawled to the lowest point of the piping, placed his mouth firmly on the spigot, and turned it on, and just let it all flow into his body.
What I mean by that is, in the early days of Twitter, this was a tech bro.
He was like a libertarian-style tech bro.
He was the free speech wing of the free speech party.
He created a platform that just started loading up with refuse from woke activists spouting garbled nonsense.
And then he started consuming that garbled nonsense and buying into it and believing it.
And then he ended up, because the machine was going right down his throat, vomiting all that stuff back out into the platform.
So, when you have a bunch of activists demanding censorship, arguing this is the right thing to do, and you give in a little bit, eventually the only thing you see is their arguments, and then you start buying into their arguments, then, as the person controlling the system, you start implementing rules based on their arguments.
So, from free speech wing of the Free Speech Party, to gargling on the refuse of woke activists and spitting it back in their faces, and everyone else's.
ian crossland
I wonder if what he said it was his civic responsibility or for the civic righteousness or whatever he said, why he was banning and shadow banning.
I wonder if it's because the government was like, you know, it's your civic responsibility.
They're there with handcuffs like dudes.
It's your civic responsibility.
Better do it.
Like wink wink.
We're going to throw you in prison if you don't.
And that's why he's talking about decentralizing it and creating a protocol instead of a centralized network.
Because if you have a centralized network, DEA wants to, or not the DEA, Dave Rubin just retweeted his conversation that he had with Jack Dorsey in 2020, where Jack specifically told him that there's no shadow banning based on political beliefs.
want to get in there and choose what people see and what people are told.
luke rudkowski
Dave Rubin just retweeted his conversation that he had with Jack Dorsey in 2020, where
Jack specifically told him that there's no shadow banning based on political beliefs.
I just retweeted it myself.
We are changed on there on Twitter.
But again, 2020, Dave Rubin specifically was asking, hey, are you guys shadowbanning?
Yes or no?
Jack Dorsey responded and said no.
ian crossland
They're justifying doublespeak by saying it's not a ban.
By deranking your algorithm intake or your outflow, it's not a ban.
luke rudkowski
It's ridiculous.
tim pool
Hold on, hold on.
There's some nuance to the tweet we have to address.
Dave Rubin said, do you shadowban based on political beliefs?
Simple yes or no will do.
And Jack said no.
And this is the problem.
They're using semantics to lie.
No, it's nothing to do with their political beliefs.
You can vote for Republicans, but if you want lower taxes, smaller government, believe that there's only two genders, well, then we'll ban you.
But that's politics, isn't it?
No, no, no, no.
See, politics refers to who you vote for.
Right?
Those are the games they play.
You can ask any question, and they will find some legalese, nonsensical, semantic argument as to why they're doing or not doing whatever they're supposed to be doing or not doing.
ian crossland
Well, I mean, people question elections.
That gets banned online, I've heard, and that's total politics.
So, obviously, if you're involved in suppressing people questioning elections around the world, then you're involved in political suppression.
Get that straight.
scott presler
Well, I asked Elon when I was on the space with him and I said, have advertisers threatened to pull money if you didn't adhere to a certain policy or have lawmakers threatened to introduce legislation should you not adhere?
And I wonder if that's been going on as well.
You know, the threatening of introducing policy or legislation that would hurt Twitter's ability if they didn't censor people.
You know, because Twitter came along when President Obama was in office, right?
It wasn't just under President Trump.
ian crossland
Yeah, I think so.
2008, maybe?
scott presler
And so maybe he was getting some of those pressures from Democratic control.
But I think you're right, Tim.
They do need a villain, but to expand upon it more, When we aren't the villains that they say we are, they have to create that.
And then point the finger and say, see?
See exactly what I was talking about?
And then they can use that as an opportunity for censorship, etc.
tim pool
Did you guys see Malcolm Flex's tweet about Ye?
It was brilliant.
He was like, Ye went on with Tim Poole, Alex Jones, and Gavin McInnes.
These people that the left keeps claiming are Nazis, and none of them would agree with him on the Jews.
It must have been very frustrating for Ye.
What are you talking about, dude?
ian crossland
Ye exposed Alex Jones for being awesome.
luke rudkowski
Well, it was a picture of Ye sitting there looking all frustrated.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
luke rudkowski
He was looking all down.
I retweeted that one, too.
tim pool
It was the Bernie Sanders meme, where he's sitting there, but they put Ye's face mask over it, and his jacket, and the idea is basically like, I wonder if that was the case?
You know, if you're Ye and you're not super into politics this way, like, you may have some ancillary view of it, but the activists keep saying, like, oh, Alex Jones is a fascist, he's a Nazi.
And then you're like, okay, so you go and hang out with them, and Alex is like, no, I hate all those people, I want nothing to do with it, you're like, wait, what?
Everybody told me that was the case.
So this is the funny thing, even Gavin McInnes, who they claim is the far-right, white supremacist, neo-Nazi, Proud Boys, he's telling Ye to stop judging people based on being a part of a group and to judge them like individuals, and...
I wonder if what Ye actually did was just grabbing the Overton window and ripping it as far to the right as he possibly could.
ian crossland
I think so.
I mean, he really made Alex look like a good guy.
That interview made Alex look like the defender of righteousness, man.
Because Ye was throwing some nonsense at him, and he knew he was.
And Alex was just like, I gotta stop you there, man.
One bridge too far.
tim pool
They're desperately trying.
So there's an article that came out.
It's from, I think, maybe The Independent or something, or Yahoo.
And it was like Tim Pool profited off of Ye's antisemitism or something like that.
And then it was like, because he came on the show and said this stuff and then I disagreed with him and we made super chats, they're arguing that it was profiting off of hate or whatever.
And I'm like, or is it profiting off of opposing hate?
They're just going to keep lying.
They're going to keep trying to manufacture some kind of narrative to create boogeymen and villains.
Because it's the only thing they have.
It's a cult.
ian crossland
It's very disturbing that people think we could create a world where people aren't mean or cruel.
Like that is complete impossibility and insanity to think that we could suppress the human will so much that people will just be nice all the time.
tim pool
I want to tell you guys something.
You see the Project Veritas expose the other day?
It's like, this morning, when I wake up and I'm doing my morning segment, I'm watching the video again, because we watched it the other night.
I just went on YouTube and I looked up 90s commercials, and I was like, I'm just gonna, like, 15 minutes of commercials from the 90s, just to remember the good old days when there were no troubles.
I know my parents probably had troubles, and there was war and stuff, but I was a little kid, so I'm just gonna watch these commercials, forget all about it.
That was so disturbing.
That this dean was talking about how they were giving these kids, these adult objects, teaching them how to use them to spit on them and things like that.
I can't even say it because you might have kids in the room.
And so I started, I posted on Facebook, and here's the funny thing.
What do you think the response is from the left when they hear this stuff?
Do you think they go, wow, that's a bridge too far for me, I better rethink what I'm doing?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
They say, well, he doesn't seem at all worried about it, the school seems to stand by it, it must be okay.
And I'm like, bro, are you kidding me?
As long, it's like that, I don't know what you'd call it, but the story about when there's a fire in a room, If one person has a room by themselves and smoke comes through, they'll go to the door, feel the door, and go, hey there's smoke, there's a fire, they'll yell.
But if you have multiple people in a room, the smoke will go under the door and everyone will look at each other, look confused, and then ignore it because no one's doing anything.
It's like these collectivists can actually be shown a video of a man bragging about how cool it is that they're doing these things to children, Well, but nobody's mad about it, so it must be okay, right?
And that's just like, if you're a person, a leader, of strong moral fiber, you're gonna be like, no, I have a line.
That's beyond for me.
I'm sorry.
ian crossland
That's why we have a Senate.
That's why we're supposed to have a morally righteous Senate.
Maybe that's why they say that this government can't last without Christianity in it.
Because we need some group of leaders that are critical thinkers that can see it when it happens, you know, see like disillusionment when it rears its ugly head.
luke rudkowski
There's a couple things I want to say about this story, but this is a family-friendly broadcast, and I'm going to save those comments for later.
What's your response to stuff like that?
I mean, you're in the political world, right?
Do the voters see stuff like that?
Does it affect them?
Or is it, as Tim says, they see it and they're like, eh, whatever.
scott presler
I think some people are tacitly approving of it because they'd rather not rock the boat.
They'd rather not get into political debates.
And I think that's wrong.
And what Tim just said really shows the necessity that we have to speak out against it.
Especially, we were just talking about this earlier, this book.
To people who don't know, genderqueer is in schools across the country, and we've had principals, we've had school boards fight to keep it in schools.
And it says things that I would never say to a child, let alone my mother or other adults.
I think, quite frankly, I would consider this child pornography, and this is in our schools.
And what people don't know They don't know what they don't know.
And I think if people did find out that this was in our schools, that they would be horrified and that it would actually motivate them to get involved.
And I think we saw that with Virginia and Governor Glenn Youngkin, etc.
But, you know, even for myself, I was thinking, what is my philosophy when it comes to being a conservative or Republican or just a… I consider myself a freedom nationalist.
You know, we've been hearing people say Christian nationalist.
No, I'm a freedom nationalist.
And usually what I say is, people should be able to do whatever they want in the comfort of their home.
Consensually and legally, so long as they're not abridging or infringing on the rights of anybody else, right?
But then I thought to myself, but when you use the word legal, well, there have been horrible policies that have been legal in the past.
And because it was legal, people use that as an excuse to continue on with it.
You know, should we introduce what is moral, what is ethical, And I think that's a conversation to be had as well, because some of the things that are happening in America, like the Patriot Act, for example, just because it's legal, does that make it right?
luke rudkowski
Yeah, a lot of the back-to-blue people need to also realize, you know, a lot of the worst atrocities in recorded human history were legal.
And when they say, I'm just following the law, I'm just doing what I'm told, they're going along with some of the worst actions that have happened to human beings.
Whether it's slavery, the genocide, the Holocaust, you name it!
All of that was codified by law.
So we need to really start seeing things from a different perspective.
A lot more people are becoming godless.
I think that also is maybe having an effect on this.
I never believe the government will be there to solve any of your problems.
I think they're only there to create more problems in your life.
So how do you enforce that in a way without using government is a question that I think a lot of people should be asking themselves.
Is there a solution without, you know, big force, big government doing this for us?
ian crossland
Usually social ostracization, like if you can get people ground up to believe in a morality.
luke rudkowski
But they control the culture and they're pushing people to not be religious.
They're pushing people not to believe in a higher power above themselves.
tim pool
This is why the left calls people white supremacists.
I want you to think about that story, uh, Gormelts.
You guys heard the Gormelts story out of Fredericksburg, VA?
There's, uh, during COVID lockdown, the guy who owns it says, I'm not doing this.
You can't shut me down.
That's unconstitutional.
Bravo, good sir.
Matt Strickland.
And, uh, eventually they say, okay, then we're gonna, we're gonna shut you down.
We're gonna take your license from you.
So he's in this dispute.
It's two years later, basically, and they go into his business, the police, to serve a search warrant and give him a suspension or whatever, and try and shut him down.
How do you deal with cops like that?
Well, the left figured it out.
You call them white supremacists.
Why?
It's one of the most repugnant things you can call someone.
It's also inactionable.
If you call someone a white supremacist, they cannot sue you, because it's an opinion, and what does it really even mean?
The term is nebulous, perhaps on purpose.
But for the average voter, they know what it means.
It means something.
So, if you have cops come into your business, they do this to you.
Well, my idea was, shun those cops, right?
Make sure those cops can't buy a cup of coffee in that town.
And if they ever want to eat food again, they'll have to move.
Because they violated the rights of a good, hard-working businessman who was just trying to feed his family, keep his business operating, serve the community, and the cops wanted to violate the Constitution.
So, the simple solution, non-violence of disobedience, is if you've got a business in Fredericksburg, watch the video of those cops, and then put up signs in your window saying, you are not welcome here, turn around.
Here's the issue.
How do you make sure, in a large city like that, that you can stop people from supporting those cops?
Well, if you go around and try to explain the nuances of why they violated the Constitution, how they violated the Constitution, and why someone should support your efforts to bar those cops, they're gonna say, look, I have no time for this.
I have no idea what you're talking about.
I don't know what that means.
And then you go, they're white supremacists.
The guy's gonna go, oh, okay.
They're not welcome here then.
That simple.
That's why the left does what they do.
They don't want to waste time explaining anything to anybody.
It's too long, it's too complicated, no one cares.
They simply say, this guy is a Nazi, and if you support him, you know what happens.
And they go, okay, you got it.
ian crossland
They appeal to emotions.
Trying to emotionally get someone to be afraid of serving them.
Emotionally.
tim pool
Right.
That's why they do it.
Because it's the fastest and easiest way to get someone barred from a business, get their bank account shut down, get them banned from social media.
ian crossland
It is a functional tactic.
luke rudkowski
I don't know if it's the right way to go.
My knee-jerk reaction is, you know, again, I haven't thought this through, but I don't think maybe we should be using the same kind of policies that they used, and I think there is some kind of karmic... You think we should keep serving these cops and let them eat at burgers at our restaurants?
No, I'm not saying that.
I'm specifically going about using this kind of mass generalization.
And again, I haven't thought this through.
unidentified
I said that's why the left does it.
tim pool
I didn't say we do it.
I said we have to shun them from our businesses.
But the reason they use these terms is because it's very difficult to explain in complicated politics.
ian crossland
Well, I was actually considering using the tactic, because like you were saying earlier, we use the tactics they use.
If there's ever like a competition of something, if you don't, you're going to get snowballed.
So like, you kind of have to use the same.
But then when they start using evil underhanded tactics, you're like, the ends don't justify the means in every situation.
tim pool
I got it.
Do you guys know where the word uh rape comes from?
Like the the root of it what it means?
ian crossland
No.
tim pool
So obviously in modern society it means you know typically a man forcing himself on a woman though in modern times it is used woman on man as well but there's a reason why the phrase raping and pillaging what is together because it used to refer specifically to barbarous hordes going into a village Destroying it and stealing everything.
So that was raping the village, was to take all their stuff.
But in the process, like the Vikings for instance, they would take women with them.
And that's how it went to get this specific meaning in today's day and age.
But if semantics is all we're really talking about, then those cops raped that guy, right?
And then you could say, here's a cop, he's a rapist.
Well, that's what rape means, right?
The traditional definition.
If you wanna play fight fire with fire and play those games, that's the game they play.
Now, here's my issue.
I agree, right?
I don't like those tactics.
I don't wanna live in that world.
I don't wanna live in a world where people are just saying things to mean something they don't really mean because they're trying to trick people.
But how do you, and I mean this sincerely, I'm not saying we should utilize the tactics of manipulation.
I'm saying, what is the counter To those manipulative tactics in a way that we can stop bad cops from, like, raiding businesses like this.
scott presler
I mean, I'm kind of guilty.
I just did it today.
I posted on my Instagram, you know, some tweets of mine criticizing Joe Biden freeing the merchant of death to Russia.
And I said on my Instagram account, Joe Biden is a Russian asset.
I don't believe that's trying to trick or manipulate.
I think it's true with the Nord Stream 2 and with his policy of trading terrorists for Americans because it's going to set precedent.
But I think it's a duality.
Yes, we need to do those tactics as truthfully as we can.
Because look, at the end of the day, we live in a world where information travels so quickly that people just want to be the first at everything.
And it doesn't matter whether it's true or false.
They just want to be the first because it means that information is going to travel as quickly as possible globally.
But I think Ian and I, well, hopefully everybody at this table would agree that 99.9% of people around the globe are good, decent human beings, but it's the 0.1% that is the loudest minority Which seems to be in control because they're able to say those terrible things about others and so many are unwilling or maybe unable to speak against them.
And I think that we need to lead by example.
Yes, speak out, but also lead by example with conservative policy, with passing conservative legislation, showing people An alternative.
An alternative to what the Democrats have been using against us.
And let's show how we can do it in a righteous and virtuous way.
And to give you an example, look at Baltimore.
Everybody was having this conversation about trash in the city, but nobody was doing anything.
And so I said, okay, I'm going to go pick up trash.
And it was that one action which spurred others to go, wait a second, I can do the same thing.
Why are we going to wait for the government to come in and save us?
We can do it ourselves.
And that one action of mine empowered so many people to believe that they could do the same, and I think that truly is part of the answer.
Lead by example.
ian crossland
So, to answer, I guess that, and what you're saying, like, boycotting these cops, which I'm not necessarily agreeing with, but it is a way to deal with the situation of people, of cops overworking their authority.
Like, just one restaurant manager at a time.
One guy tells one guy, word of mouth, rather than try and lie about these guys and defame them, just be straight up.
They came in, they shut down an aspect of my business against, if it actually violates the Constitution.
luke rudkowski
Or, you know, we could just take photos of them and put up wanted posters saying that there's pirates going around town destroying people's livelihoods and business, and that technically is not a lie too, right?
ian crossland
It would say not wanted, because they don't want them in there.
luke rudkowski
No, no, no, no, or beware!
Beware!
Pirates running around shutting down businesses on behets of bureaucrats.
These guys will do whatever it takes to screw you over if they have to.
I think even those beware posters might be something.
tim pool
Maybe I should just put up a bunch of billboards all over Fredericksburg with their pictures on it.
luke rudkowski
That could be.
Yeah, that could be.
tim pool
You can do that.
That's free speech.
So if I put their photos from the video on billboards and then put, do not serve these men in your establishment, they're bad cops, That's my free speech.
It's not actionable.
And billboards cost between a couple hundred and a couple thousand dollars, depending on where they are.
Why don't we just set a budget and put those billboards up all over Fredericksburg, Virginia?
luke rudkowski
Yeah.
tim pool
I'll make a phone call first thing in the morning.
luke rudkowski
That's absolutely one way of doing it.
Doing flyers, passing out flyers, being like, hey, you know, this is a community effort here.
I think also meeting with the community, meeting with the restaurant owner and the other businesses and other people in that community and seeing how they want to handle this too.
Uh, creating a relationship with them and having them come together when something bad happens, I think is also something that could be incredibly strong and incredibly powerful of people saying, Hey, we live together.
We're in the same community together.
There was clearly a state that committed a crime and a violation against private enterprise and a private business here that was serving the community.
Let's come together and let's act together.
And you might not even have to buy a billboard.
It could be Posters.
It could be, you know, just a piece of paper with the photos photocopied, put up everywhere on polls.
ian crossland
Yeah, with diplomacy you could get together with the restaurant owner, the police chief, and then maybe have a conversation publicly where they realize, we are going to reinstate the liquor license.
That was a bad move and we're not going to do it again.
That would be better than just smashing at people that made you angry and then they're gone and now new people are going to keep making the same issue over and over again.
You've got to go after those guys.
luke rudkowski
Well, no, no, no, no.
tim pool
I think I want to put the billboards up.
And I'll just put, Beware Dirty Cops, and I'll put their pictures up on the billboard.
Warning.
luke rudkowski
They would have to, you know, think twice if they're going to do something like that.
ian crossland
It's true.
Historically, cops would not mess with people in their own environment.
They'd have to bring police in from another state or from, like, the government, from, like, a state government, because local cops don't mess with their friends and family.
Like, those are your neighbors.
tim pool
And for good reason.
And that kept things in order.
When, you know, the cop had to come down and deal with a brawl, it's like, listen, we've got to stop the fight.
Break it up, guys.
Look, your dad's gonna be pissed.
I don't want to deal with this.
Now, they bring in cops from two towns over, and they walk in and say, don't know, don't care, pull the taser, just jab the guy.
In this instance, it's a guy who was standing up for his constitutional rights, and two years later, they're like, we're gonna destroy your business.
Okay, those are dirty cops.
I'm sorry, that is... They're like, don't know, don't care.
Well, you probably have to.
So, you know, someone super chatted, what about the thin blue line and protecting us from chaos?
Yeah, if, like, in New York a dude steals a school bus and is ramming people, then, like, I got no issue with the cops.
Like, that's... that's... I agree.
Like...
There's a reason why we have police officers for situations of, like, a guy running around with a gun, but we're talking about a dude who was operating a business that sold beer.
And the only reason they went after his liquor license was because he said F you to their unconstitutional edict.
The cops want to enforce that?
Okay, they're dirty cops, and maybe I'll just put up billboards, dirty cops, and I'll put them all over the place.
luke rudkowski
They protected Walmart.
They protected Costco.
They allowed all the businesses with connections to politicians to stay open.
McDonald's, you could walk in there, get whatever you wanted, no problem.
But this guy who had a small business had to be shut down by these politicians now?
Years after these edicts?
Because a politician went to police officers and said, go enforce this, and the police officer said, yes sir, I'll do it right away.
And all these back to blue guys need to face the reality because the national security state is being turned around on the people of America.
It used to be that they were fighting, you know, terrorists, but...
That again, don't even get me started on all that.
But, you know, you do a lot of positive activism that you just mentioned in Baltimore.
Is there a way to turn this situation and do some kind of positive activism here with this?
scott presler
Well, I wasn't even thinking that way.
Well, I agree that we need to keep it to the individual and, you know, make it known that we're not painting with a broad brush.
And yes, we do support the police, but we don't support the police when they are choosing as individuals to enforce unconstitutional legal mandates.
But groups like Black Lives Matter, and I want to make it very clear, I don't support Black Lives Matter, but if they were smart, they're working All of these conversations seem limited to short-term goals.
If I were a part of Black Lives Matter and I really wanted to make a difference, I'd say join the police force.
Become a policeman because then you are going to be the enforcer of the laws that you are for or against, right?
And same for us as conservatives when we're calling out the sexualization of children within our schools.
Well, a long-term approach will be become a school board member, become a city council member, and become a teacher.
Become the solution to the problem you're talking about in the long term.
That would be more my positive activism as to actually try to solve this from a long-term perspective.
tim pool
Let's jump to this story about Joe Biden.
This is from the Daily Mail.
Quote, I don't understand why I'm still sitting here.
My bags are packed.
Devastated Paul Whelan breaks his silence from Russian penal colony as his brother slams his catastrophic exclusion from Brittany Griner prison swap.
I'm ready to go home.
Let me show you the truth.
Jordan Schachtel says NBC News, a known state propaganda outlet, is participating in the cover-up operation.
First edition versus stealth edited.
In the original archive, it says, but the official said Russia has treated Whelan differently because he is an accused spy, and that the Kremlin gave the White House the choice of either Greiner or Whelan or none.
They edit it to say, They gave the White House the choice of either Greiner or no one after different options were proposed.
Because the reality is Joe Biden had a choice.
This former U.S.
Marine or a WNBA star.
Now the WNBA star hates America as much as he does and is part of the cult.
So this is what Joe Biden chooses to do.
Your values, as an American who believes in people sacrificing for the greater good, are not held by these people.
And these are the people that have near- just absolute raw power in this country.
Through ballot harvesting or otherwise, they control the institutions, and they are the- I view these people as a parasitic cult that is suckling the blood from this country and gutting it, ripping it to shreds.
luke rudkowski
There was another aspect to this prisoner swap deal that a lot of people are missing, and that was the involvement of the Saudi empire.
Saudi Arabia, by the way, the United States just declared immune for the Khashoggi killing.
They literally cited Biden's administration's executive powers and stopped any further investigations and legal responsibility for the killing of Khashoggi.
Uh, with Saudi Arabia, Saudi Arabia, the country that negotiated this larger prisoner swap with many people now speculating that this was a part of the deal of the United States getting, uh, Brittany grinder back to the United States.
And it absolutely does make sense because as we know, Biden was trying to do this before the midterm elections in order to try to get political favors in order to look good to his base. He wasn't able to
achieve that.
This Saudi Arabian development does make sense now, and it wasn't just this former US
vet that was screwed over here, but it was also the family of Khashoggi,
who also was connected to intelligence agencies as well, that was screwed over here as well.
unidentified
I mean Biden, it's kind of a smart move, in my opinion, over
I dislike it.
But you saw Micah Parsons on Twitter get absolutely roasted for saying, why is Greiner coming home?
He's an athlete, famous athlete.
Why is Greiner coming home when we have a veteran overseas?
And he got blasted by the mob, the Twitter mob.
So Biden knows who's paying attention to him, you know?
tim pool
I just I just don't view view the the leftists like the way I described it several months ago was I don't care what they think it's like asking me what the people of France think about my opinions like well we're not France you know I don't view them and and and this is not a thing where I'm trying to say this because I I'm mad at this group of people or I don't like them I genuinely don't think since the pandemic when Biden came out and said we're gonna lock down and I'm like but red states aren't locking down I went oh man we're two different countries That's just it.
The left and right both agree we are two different countries.
But a lot of people on the right don't seem to get it.
They keep saying our democracy and people are like, we don't live in a democracy.
It's a constitution.
No, bro.
They're saying they have a democracy you aren't a part of.
So we gotta do something.
ian crossland
But it's not a democracy. They say it's a democracy, but it's an oligarchy.
They're running it at the top, behind the scenes. It's administrators and
politicians and bankers and stuff.
tim pool
Bureonomy?
ian crossland
That's a good word.
tim pool
Bureaucracy. I don't think bureaucracy really gets to the element of the economic function of it,
though. That's why I say bureaunomy. Because it's like, bureaucracy just implies there's
like a system of paperwork and, you know, bureaucrats running things.
But it's also the system itself of who gets access to resources is, you know, the economic functions of it.
It's not just oligarchy.
I guess you can just call it classical communism, right?
Like Chinese communist style.
That's what it is.
I think they're losing, you know, so I'm chill.
the exposure that we're getting out of the Twitter file stuff, seeing what they're doing
behind the scenes, what the FBI's been doing, I'm like, oh, okay, you know, they're going to lose,
they can't maintain this. But I think what helps is people realizing that you don't share a system
scott presler
with them. Well, I'm not sure with this story that we need to really be focusing on Britney.
And I just thought it was so, and what I mean by that is, you know, the press secretary today was
saying, this is a victory for the gay community, and black women everywhere. And I'm like,
What?
What does that have to do with anything?
The fact of the matter is we traded a terrorist, an arms dealer that conspired to kill Americans that is responsible for deaths across the globe, to our enemy, our adversary.
I have to point this out.
It sets terrible precedent and precedent, quite frankly, that was set under President Obama because I was looking at Bergdahl.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but President Obama traded five Guantanamo Bay Individuals that were a part of the Taliban for that one American who apparently, according to sources, had betrayed and run off.
And then during President Trump, we had Americans that were freed from North Korea.
We had the students that were freed from China.
And we had Aya Hijazi and her husband that were freed from Egypt.
Three different situations.
And North Korea, who could be more hostile?
Yeah, I think that is analogous to Russia or China, and President Trump didn't have to trade an arms dealer or terrorist in order to free those American citizens.
And so that needs to be a part of the conversation.
It has nothing to do with identity, gender, etc.
It has to be at what point Do we concede in order to get something back to America?
And furthermore, I just want to also make the point, I think this is not unexpected from the very administration that gave billions in military equipment to the Taliban to begin with.
So this is something that I'm not surprised or shocked.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, I was going to say what this guy is accused of doing is what the US intelligence deep state has been doing for a number of years now.
So let's just call a spade a spade here.
He's a very fascinating guy because he started selling machetes and single shot rifles to Africa, then moved on to AK-47s.
He was charged with conspiracy to kill Americans the DAA Said a couple months ago that his release would pose quote grave national security threats to the United States He's also alleged to have tried to sell missiles to blow up u.s.
Passenger Airlines He is alleged to have stolen 32 billion dollars of weapons from Ukraine.
These are again all allegations This is this is where the movie by I forgot the title by What's his name that weird face looking guy Quentin Tarantino?
No, no.
Sorry, Quentin, I love you.
Nicolas Cage.
There's a Nicolas Cage movie.
tim pool
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That movie was cool.
luke rudkowski
That movie was based on this guy.
tim pool
Oh, really?
Yes.
The beginning of the movie, is that where they show the bullet?
scott presler
Yep.
tim pool
Oh, Merchant.
ian crossland
God of War.
luke rudkowski
God of War, yep.
I think that's... No, hold on.
Lord of War?
ian crossland
Lord of War, something like that.
luke rudkowski
God of War is a game.
Someone in the chat room will tell us, but his life was, you know, depicted in that particular movie by Nicolas Cage.
tim pool
Can I just, you know the first thing I thought of when I heard this?
Like Luke's mentioning this guy is like a wanted terrorist.
He tried to kill Americans.
He's selling missiles to US enemies.
We've been warned that he's a tremendous threat.
But we got Brittany Griner, and the first thing I think of is Dumb and Dumber, when the dude rides up on the little scooter, on the moped, and then he's like, what happened?
He's like, I traded the van for it, 70 miles to the gallon, and he's like, just when I think you couldn't do, you couldn't be any stupider, you go and do something like this, and totally redeem yourself!
Trading your van for a pit bike.
That's what this feels like.
We had the merchants of death.
And Biden's like, well, we do need a D-list celebrity back in the country.
luke rudkowski
That's what the corporate media is calling him, and it was Lord of War, the movie.
If you haven't watched it yet, I thought it was a great movie.
I was very entertained by it, and it's based off real-life events off of this particular guy.
Now, the other side of the story is that a lot of this is trumped-up charges, that this was personally directed as a major political hit job against Putin, because he was pretty much working within the Russian intelligentsia, deep state selling weapons where the Russian government couldn't officially sell weapons to.
So, again, the United States does this as well.
His main crime was, again, financing al-Qaeda and ISIS, and that's literally what the United States did as well.
So, your tax dollars went to doing that.
This guy did it as well, and he was held captive in 2010 and was supposed to serve a 25-year sentence.
tim pool
I got standards, right?
I mean, I got principles.
Brittany Griner should not be getting charged and locked up like she was in Russia and all that stuff.
ian crossland
For weed, right?
tim pool
For possession?
luke rudkowski
A weed pen.
tim pool
A THC vapor or something?
Compulsive insanity.
So, you know, look, I think it's silly, but she did break Russian law.
I just don't, you know, and you gotta abide by the rules, but we can do some kind of trade.
I got no problem with that.
I think Brittany Griner should be back home in the United States.
I'm just sitting here being like, when it comes to swapping the Lord of War, Merchant of Death, can't we do a little better?
This has got to be like the worst.
Biden needs to read the art of the deal.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Like, because he has no idea how to negotiate this stuff.
He just traded, I'm saying, a van for a pit bike.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, and when you look at the way that Donald Trump handled negotiations, especially when it came to prisoner swaps, he did a way better job, especially when it came to the situation in Turkey.
I believe there was a pastor that was being held there.
Donald Trump wanted him back in the United States, and then he started to tweet about how The lira was a crap currency.
The currency started to go down and Turkey was demanding very tough requests from the United States and then ended up not giving up anything, according to the official story.
And the way he handled that was, I think, a lot better.
And again, I'm critical of Donald Trump.
You guys know that, obviously, in the chat room.
I see it every single day.
But I think the way he handled that was a lot better than what Biden just did now.
ian crossland
Biden's looking for a flash in the pan.
He constantly looks for these, like, little shocks, bright light flashes to keep people interested.
That's what it seems like.
This is a publicity stunt, really, more than anything for him, I think.
Although, I'm glad Britney's back.
You know?
luke rudkowski
She should be legal.
Let's be honest.
She was a political prisoner, right?
She was held there, captively, sentenced for eight years in a very tough Russian jail.
I wouldn't want to be in her situation.
She was there because she was playing basketball.
She was getting paid to play basketball there.
And, you know, to me, no one should be charged for eight years for a substance that they wanted to personally use themselves.
To me, that idea is just absolutely insane.
So clearly the Russian government was holding her as a political pawn, and clearly that political pawn played off and has been incentivized by this larger trade deal, which at the end of the day only incentivizes Russia to do this again to other American citizens that are in Russia, if you really do think about this.
tim pool
I want to lighten things up a little bit.
We're dealing with some dark subjects, and we've got a really dark subject in a bit, but let's start with something that's going to give everybody a good laugh.
Here we go, from The Guardian.
Twitter sued for disproportionately firing female workers after Musk buyout.
The proposed class action lawsuit alleges that after the takeover, 57% of women were laid off compared with 47% of men.
The reason why I say that's funny is because there's that meme where Elon Musk, he did this, he sent out an email saying, will you make the pledge to work hard, yes or no?
If no, you will be laid off and get three months severance.
And then this data comes out where they're like, 57% of the people who got laid off were women.
So first, I understand Elon Musk did laugh a bunch of people immediately without question, but then he came back with that who wants to work hard and who doesn't.
So you've got a few things here.
Is it that 10% proportionally more women were like, I would not want to work hard?
There's an article from the Washington Post that says, Elon Musk's vision of working late hours at the cost of sleep, family and friends is retrograde.
And it was like, it's like written by a woman.
And I'm just kind of like, you know, the sound, the idea of working 16 hours a day at the cost of all of those things is appealing to me.
Is there is there something where there's like a difference between men and women on this one?
We know that women tend to be subject oriented, men tend to tend to be object oriented.
Is that the cause of this?
Or is there just a simple There were more women working in comms and more comms
people got fired.
There were more men working in engineering, so less of them got fired or something like that.
It's that meme, you know what I mean?
Where, uh, before Twitter, it's all women and then after it's all men.
Or do you guys think Elon's sexist?
luke rudkowski
What do you think?
scott presler
I don't have a funny answer to it.
But I would probably just say that 57% or a good percentage maybe cared about that they had that disamplification or disenhancement.
You know, they were taking away visibility from people that they didn't agree with.
And they simply were just saying, okay, if Elon's going to take over, and if he's not going to censor these beliefs that we don't agree with, I don't want to work for that company.
luke rudkowski
And it's not that big of a margin.
What is it, 57%?
I mean, how do you quantify that, especially when it's, you know, a few hundred people?
What was it, a few thousand people?
tim pool
Well, I mean, here's the issue, too.
There were more men working for the company than women, so this means more men got fired than women.
But when you compare only men to men and women to women, then the percentages make it seem like more women got fired.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, this feels like it's just a frivolous lawsuit meant to entangle Elon Musk and to stop him from doing other things than to drain away his resources.
That's just my initial reaction to this.
I could be wrong, but I highly doubt a lot of the decisions were based off sexist decisions by Elon Musk.
To me, there's no evidence showing that at all, and it's a ridiculous claim in my opinion.
ian crossland
Yeah, I find—I don't know, there's a tendency for men to be more obsessed with science, tech, and things, and women to be more obsessed with people and things like that.
luke rudkowski
Especially when it comes to coding.
Especially when it comes to developing and building.
ian crossland
Especially when it comes to coding.
Sitting in a room for 16 hours without a shower and stinking is—I'm okay with it.
I do that almost every day.
In fact, I like it.
But most women I know like to be clean, especially because they need to be clean for health reasons, cleaner than men.
luke rudkowski
Well, it's not just that.
But predominantly, men like to, of course, be engineers, like to build and develop.
Women like to organize.
Women like to keep things orderly.
Not always, but more generally speaking, that's the case here.
And when we look at the jobs at Twitter, they're going to be Not doing what they did before.
They're going to be developing essentially what is the next WeChat here in the United States and encompassing everyday life, which is going to include a lot of coding, a lot of hard engineering work in order to develop the app of everything, the X app, as Elon Musk has called it.
So that's not going to attract a lot of people who aren't going to be able to tell people what to say and what to think and to shadow ban them because they can't do that anymore.
ian crossland
I think there was a lot of administrative bloat at Twitter, a bunch of middle management, and maybe there were more women in middle management.
Maybe there were more guys in tech.
luke rudkowski
I mean, we saw the videos.
They're like, oh yeah, we got free wine.
Yeah, we're going to go on the roof, and we're going to hang out.
Elon came in and was like, no, if you have to stop that right now, and then, and then, obviously.
tim pool
This is so retrograde.
I want wine and Legos.
ian crossland
I guess it depends on what you want to do with your tech company, but I find, like, you want about 90% of your employees to be programmers.
I don't know, maybe that's a little off base.
I have only run one tech company.
I didn't really run it myself.
I helped run it.
tim pool
Remember, what was it, Polly Pocket?
You remember that thing?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
What was the dude version?
Max something?
scott presler
Mighty Max.
tim pool
Mighty Max?
Was that what it was?
scott presler
I was all about it.
tim pool
Yeah, and it was like, you had a little thing, you'd open it, and you had a little guy, and then the girl version was the Polly Pocket.
You know, maybe, I'll throw a bone to the left, People, millennials, were socialized very, very differently.
Young women play with different toys than young boys, and that leads them to be very different when they're older.
That's going to have an impact on how people want to work in their jobs, the way they're raised.
I will say outright.
So, at the very least, that could be the case.
I'll also say, One of the tricks that the left uses is they turn the obvious and overt differences between men and women into racism, misogyny, discrimination, etc.
Or I should say, in this instance, misogyny turned into sexism.
If women need more sick days than men for, you know, health reasons, You will then see, if you look at... I'd be willing to bet, but I could be wrong.
I'm interested to see.
Do women take off more sick leave than men?
What do you guys think?
ian crossland
I would imagine just if raising families is involved, but that's not super common.
tim pool
No, no, sick leave.
ian crossland
Just take days off.
tim pool
Getting sick and having a hard time working.
Do you think men or women are more likely to?
I don't know for sure, but my personal view is I bet women would because women have health issues and I got no issue with that.
But imagine if I then went into the directory and said, for some reason all of these women are abusing the health care system.
Certainly, what's going on, right?
Men and women are different.
The genders are bimodal.
That means there's two big bell curves, they overlap greatly, but there are some differences.
If this means that women overwhelmingly work in comms and men overwhelmingly work in engineering, then when the layoffs come and they say, we're laying off communications and it disproportionately affects women, they then ignore that fact of the differences between men and women and say, ah, the fact that he fired more women proves that he's a sexist and it's illegal discrimination.
ian crossland
But in reality, you don't need a huge bloated comms unit in a tech company.
I don't think so.
They are obviously, I guess when you get to the level that Twitter's at, you become a bit more of a communications department than you are when you're a startup tech platform, because the government wants to come talk to people and have you have departments of people that are doing communications and stuff, so maybe I could see that changing, but you know, for the benefit of the good of the future of the network, I don't think you need massive comms.
tim pool
I was right.
According to the Department of Labor, Women take around 32 days, I think, per year, and men take 25.
scott presler
Huh.
ian crossland
They got ovaries?
tim pool
Yeah.
scott presler
Well, quite frankly, from the very people that have been censoring us, and there was no rationale behind it, there was no policy that actually you know, said that's what we were doing. I have trouble
believing the very people that were lying about the reasons why we were censored in the first place
that they are being discriminated against to begin with. And quite frankly, I mean, I don't
think I have sympathy for them. You know, it's kind of like when CNN is laying off people. Certainly,
I don't want anybody to be out of a job and not be able to provide for their family. But it's
like, if you've been maligning us and doing horrible things to us, I'm not sure I have sympathy
for you when you are losing your job.
tim pool
I got more data.
In terms of general leave, just not even sick, women take, what is it, 34 days versus men's 21 days.
That's interesting.
ian crossland
Twice as much.
tim pool
And it says primarily they take longer leaves for a new child.
Women take 54 days versus men taking 18.
But I totally get it.
I don't expect a guy to take 54 days.
He didn't birth this child.
I think women deserve that time off.
I think men should get a good amount of time off to be with their kids, don't get me wrong.
But I mean, that's just biological differences.
It's going to manifest in various ways.
They want more time off.
What if Elon went in and said, fire anybody who took more than 30 days off this year?
He didn't say anything about women, but that would get rid of more women than men, right?
unidentified
Are these full-time employees?
I see down here at the bottom it says 3,700.
Are these full-time employees?
Are these people who are working one day a week?
I'd be curious to see those numbers.
ian crossland
I don't know if they have them, but... I think a lot of people were considered full-time, but we're remoting in, and we're like, you know, just doing bare minimum, and that's part of Elon's issue with it.
It blows my mind to think that if an owner of a company comes in and is like, someone's doing a bad job, like, you're doing a bad job, I've given you some warnings, you're fired, and they're like, You're firing me because I'm white.
I'm like, no, I'm firing you because you suck.
Get out.
No, it's because I'm tall.
You're firing me because I'm a woman, because I'm black.
Like, dude, you suck at your job.
Get out.
End of story.
Why do you get to pick social politics and bring that into it?
I don't get it.
I don't get it.
tim pool
Well, the woke people live in this world where everything is based on race or identity.
It's such a cop out.
Instead of looking at You know, instead of looking at the data and being like, hmm, I wonder why more women take time off.
Nope, nope, it's discrimination.
ian crossland
You know, I bet there are situations where it's not a cop-out, so I shouldn't speak for all time.
But there are many, many times when I think the worst people will get fired, and it has nothing to do with your identity.
It's purely because of your ability.
Or because your position isn't needed anymore.
You gotta be so good that the company needs you.
You gotta make your position so valuable that the company can't run without it.
I mean, that's one way to do it.
tim pool
The left wants companies to keep on bad employees because of the employee's identity.
That just doesn't work.
unidentified
Looks good on paper.
tim pool
Yeah, well, you know, and then you get bridges that collapse and stuff like that.
luke rudkowski
You should see the laws that they have in California when it comes to boards and their regulations there, which is, again, absolutely insane.
But, you know, there's a lot of data suggesting that, you know, men do work more days in a year on average than women do.
Does this have an effect here?
Maybe, I think so.
ian crossland
I think this cycle has happened a lot in history, and what I don't want to happen is for it to become where people resent, let's pick women for instance, or some sort of class of human, female, white, black, you know, whatever, that people, because the companies start to suffer because they're forced to have a certain amount of women and a certain amount of men, and maybe it doesn't matter their qualifications, that people will start to resent those people, those underqualified people that got the position on identity.
And then, if the system really falls apart, There's going to be massive amounts of resentment, and then you'll start over with this really, like, extreme system where people are like, women aren't the, women, people have actually joked about repealing the 19th Amendment, because they're so frustrated with this stuff.
tim pool
Wait, wait, wait, wait, what do you mean, joked?
ian crossland
Exactly!
It's not, some people haven't even joked, they just say it's, maybe we should strip women's right to vote, because they're so pissed off that women are being forced into positions they're not qualified for, for identity purposes.
tim pool
What, what is a woman, Ian?
ian crossland
Good question, Tim.
tim pool
Good question.
So I tweeted that now that we know that biological sex isn't real, we should repeal the 19th Amendment because it's become redundant.
ian crossland
I'm telling you.
tim pool
Well, why would you need it if biological sex isn't real?
The 19th Amendment specifically says the right to vote shall not be abridged or whatever the word is.
It says sex.
Specifically says sex.
That the right to vote will not be stopped because of your sex.
But if the left's position is that biological sex doesn't exist anymore, well then we don't need the 19th Amendment.
Everybody agrees.
No, seriously.
That's the first question I have.
You go to conservatives, like Milo or whatever.
He says outright, you know, repeal the 19th.
Lydia!
She says, repeal the 19th.
And it's like, okay, well, you know, like, I personally don't agree with that.
But I'm also not somebody who thinks biological sex doesn't exist.
I think it does.
So then, fine.
Here's my pitch to Milo and to Lydia.
Go to leftists and say, is biological sex a real thing?
When they say no, be like, okay, would you like to sign this petition to repeal the 19th amendment, which specifically grants voting rights based on sex?
That's transphobic, isn't it?
Okay, great.
Then when they sign it, there you go, get your petitions, get your two thirds of states, article 5 convention or whatever, and then you can repeal the 19th.
ian crossland
But the reality is men and women are different.
Women have ovaries.
Genetically, sexually are different creations.
Maybe gender is a conversation that's worth having, that people have different gender identities, whatever.
Biological sex is very real.
It's very real.
We're all born of a woman.
As far as I know, all of us here probably were.
You guys?
I was.
Had a mom and a dad.
Sperm and an egg.
Female and a male.
They worked together.
luke rudkowski
You sound like a bigot.
How dare you express these opinions?
I mean, I have to disavow immediately.
Scott, do you disavow Ian?
scott presler
Absolutely.
ian crossland
Thank you.
scott presler
Not.
ian crossland
Yes.
Okay, good.
unidentified
I think a lot of times personalities get labeled as gender identities, too.
And it's just like, people are different.
Men and women are different.
People are different.
We all come from different backgrounds, different cultures.
And there's too often people are trying to put you in a little box, say this is what you are.
And it's just like, yo, be an individual, you know?
ian crossland
Dude, that's awesome, thinking of it as a personality trait difference instead of a gender difference.
It doesn't have to be gender just because your personality feels like something.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
That's a good point.
scott presler
Well, it's just so ironic, you know, because they're looking for these immutable characteristics as diversity, but they won't include diversity of thought, of ideology, of religion, of anything else.
luke rudkowski
That's too much.
That's too much.
We've got to keep it superficial here, you know?
tim pool
So they took the video down.
It was a debate between Jordan Peterson and this professor.
The video is now unavailable, but the quote was, basically, it's not correct that there is such a thing as biological sex.
He said, I'm a historian of medicine, I can break that down in great detail, but for the sake of time, I won't.
And it was Jordan Peterson having a debate on gender.
So, and this is 2016.
If that's the position they want to take, I mean, man, this is six years ago!
Six years ago!
This is a long time.
That means a 12-year-old who was not paying attention to politics back then is voting now.
That's crazy.
And they don't think that biological sex exists.
Alright, well then the 19th Amendment doesn't need to exist either.
ian crossland
I think it's okay that biological sex exists.
It's so weird when people conflate sex and gender, too.
I don't like that.
The sex thing is just blatantly real.
Sex is real.
Like, man and woman are both here together.
tim pool
I gotta say, though, I don't see how they argue themselves away from that one.
The 19th Amendment explicitly says, on the basis of sex, if they don't think it exists, then what is the basis for the 19th Amendment?
Simply put.
Ask them.
Ask your lefty friends.
Calmly and... Do you think we should have a 19th Amendment?
Yeah, the one that... You know what that does?
It affirms in the Constitution that biological sex is real.
That's transphobic, right?
Well then we gotta get rid of it.
ian crossland
It doesn't necessarily affirm, because there could be zero women, and the 19th Amendment could still be there, it just wouldn't be affecting anyone.
So what?
See, that could be a situation where they're like, hey, there are no sexes, so let's repeal the redundancy, and then all of a sudden they're like, actually, there are sexes, you guys are gonna have to work to get an amendment in the Constitution to get to vote again.
Like, no, no, no, no.
Everyone's able to vote now.
tim pool
Hey, look, if they want to remove their own right to vote, then people can vote away their right to vote, I guess.
It's their view, not mine!
Hey, let's move on to the next story.
ian crossland
Yes!
tim pool
You guys ready to go on some dark territory?
ian crossland
Yeah, man!
tim pool
Did you guys see that commercial that was glorifying euthanasia?
Where the woman was like, I can choose to die, and then like they're all dancing around her or whatever?
She didn't want to die.
She wanted to live, but they wouldn't give her the care she needed so she could live, so she opted to die instead.
Because the state, California, I'm sorry, this is Canada, I don't mean like the United States, I mean like the government state, said, well, we can't give you the adequate health care you need, but we can kill you.
And she said, fine.
From the National Post, woman featured in pro-euthanasia commercial wanted to live, say friends.
Quote, I feel like I'm falling through the cracks, so if I'm not able to access health care, am I then able to access death care, Hatch said in a CTV interview.
So when they did the commercial showing this woman about how she wanted to die because she had a connective tissue disorder, what they omitted from that was that she had given interviews and that her friends had pleaded to give her the care she needed because she didn't want to die.
Now in Canada, they're currently having a debate over whether or not to extend euthanasia to children.
So, you know, this morning when I see the Project Veritas stuff, I'm like, oh, I'm going to put on some 90s commercials.
I'm going to do it tomorrow too.
Just zone out and be like, oh yeah, cheeseburgers for 50 cents.
ian crossland
What do you guys think about assisted suicide?
What about you?
What do you think, Scott?
scott presler
Well, in regards to the story, I just think it's disgusting that it's cheaper to kill someone than to keep them alive.
And I think that's what it comes down to money.
And, you know, we've seen that from everything from pharmaceuticals, you know, the Trying to get rid of competition, because if it means that there's a cheaper solution to keep somebody alive affects somebody's pocketbooks, they're willing to try to destroy that competition, which is going to make people pay more in order to stay alive.
I just think it's altogether disgusting.
luke rudkowski
It's like the government has an invested interest in killing people and depopulating them and making sure that they no longer exist.
It's like almost everything they do, and they incentivize, 3% of all deaths in Canada were people being killed by the state.
Daily Caller has a very interesting article that's headlined, euthanasia is now a leading cause of death in Canada.
tim pool
Yeah, three percent.
Three percent of all deaths in Canada were people being killed by the state.
At what point is it genocide?
luke rudkowski
That's a good question.
That's a question that I think a lot of people should be asking themselves.
scott presler
The world is just upside down.
You know, I recently had a health scare.
Very ill, went to the hospital, and because I've been frugal, because I've saved every cent, because I'm with mom and dad.
I'm in a 2005 Honda Civic.
I'm not living the lap of luxury.
And because that I haven't spent every cent, I'm actually being penalized for that.
Where if my bank account said zero dollars, then I would be getting better health care than being a responsible physical citizen.
And it's just every aspect of our society we seem to reward irresponsibility and we reward not having accountability and transparency.
ian crossland
Unemployment is exactly that.
They'll say, don't get a job or you'll lose your free money.
So don't get a job.
As soon as you get a job, you lose your unemployment check.
scott presler
So there's no incentive.
unidentified
Yeah.
scott presler
And then you're watching and you're saying, oh, I can't make this much money because then I won't receive government assistance.
And there's no incentive to better your life.
Why should I?
I'm going to be taken care of.
ian crossland
Tribal life used to be much more hard.
I mean, if you couldn't walk, they leave you on the ground as they all have to travel on to find food somewhere else.
You can't keep up.
Sorry, Grandpa.
Or whatever.
Maybe they throw you in the back of a wagon, but if you're just going to eat lettuce and just waste the tribe's food and not contribute, at some point, harsh reality takes over.
But now we're in a society where people are severely obese, severely No, they're doing the opposite of that.
not even contributing to society because they're so depressed, and they're still like trying
to support those people and have those people breed and like make more of that, it feels
luke rudkowski
like.
No, they're doing the opposite of that.
They're trying to make sure that they don't breed, that they don't have families, that
they don't reproduce, that they get eliminated and destroyed.
ian crossland
But people get money for having more kids.
They'll get more social security and stuff.
Or more government payments per kid.
luke rudkowski
Depends on what jurisdiction you're in.
Depends on what state you're in.
And it's just enough to keep you floating but never enough to prosper.
Just to keep you dependent.
On the government.
But, I mean, that's what they want.
They want a UBI, and in some senses, in some jurisdictions, they already have that.
But what they're doing in Canada seems absolutely draconian, seems absolutely, I would even go as far as to say evil.
There's a new bill, C-7, that wants to allow minors to be able to be euthanized by state doctors without the consent of their parents.
That's literally the laws that they're trying to pass there and they're ruling that mentally ill minors are legally allowed to be, you know, euthanized against the will of their parents.
So, especially with mental health being so just incredibly negative.
tim pool
I want you guys to imagine something.
You know, we've seen this stuff with Florida with the parental rights and education.
Imagine it's either you or someone you know or just a third party.
Kid doesn't come home from school.
Parents get worried.
14 year old teenage girl or something.
So they call the police, they call the school, the school says, uh, we don't, we don't have anything to tell you, we're sorry.
They say, what?
What's going on?
Well, we don't know.
They call the police, the police are like, okay, we'll look into it.
The next day, someone from the school, from the administration, with the police, show up, knock on the door, and say, we didn't want to tell you this yesterday, because it's none of your business, but yesterday your child opted for medical assistance in dying, and we assisted your child in going to the doctor, receiving a device, which killed them.
Which assisted them in their own death.
You can go claim the body.
ian crossland
I mean, talk... I know you've said, like, the violence of, like, watching kids get sterilized against their parents' will.
Watching a kid get killed against their parents, like, without their parent... I mean, that's complete topsy-turvy, insane.
tim pool
If you... Look, I know this is Canada, but with the Veritas stuff we saw last night, It was probably one of the most shocking things I have ever heard.
It's bad enough we see these books, like we got Genderqueer sent on the table, Ian bought it, and you look at the images in this and you're like, Amazon says this book is for adults only, but they're giving it to grade school kids and putting it in their library.
Then you hear from Veritas a guy bragging about how he's got adult objects for children with explanations of how to spit on them to insert them and things like that.
And as soon as I heard that, I said, you can come to me with any political theory, political story, but if you don't think that we're headed towards some kind of civil conflict, then I would just say you're wrong.
It's one thing when Joe Biden weaponizes the DOJ.
Sure, it's overtly political.
But when you hear a story like what came out of Veritas, or when you hear these stories about what's going on in Canada, they want to euthanize children without alerting the parents.
Quite literally, the state, the government of Canada, is proposing, they're debating whether or not they can take your child without telling you and kill them!
ian crossland
What's the name of that bill again?
luke rudkowski
Bill C-7.
unidentified
Kill your kid.
tim pool
In a way- The government wants, in Canada, wants to kill your child.
I'm open to- I know- Sorry, just- I know Canada's not the United States, but I'm saying we are dangerously close to that line where people are just gonna say, nope.
ian crossland
I'm open to, like, assisted suicide.
I always have kind of been like, if someone wants to kill themself, they're gonna do it.
I mean, maybe not, maybe not.
People have been brought back from the edge.
My buddy hung himself during COVID.
You know, it wrecked me, but whatever.
It's still wrecking me right now.
But I don't think anyone could have stopped him.
He was finished.
But the kid, to do it to a kid, especially someone on a pharmaceutical drug that's already depressed because of the drug.
tim pool
Do you know about the documentary on the Golden Gate Bridge?
We've talked about it before.
ian crossland
Uh, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
Every single person who survived jumping off the Golden Gate Bridge said as soon as they jumped they regretted jumping and they realized that all of their problems in life could have been solved except having just jumped off the Golden Gate Bridge.
They were happy to be alive.
Most people who get past the depression and suicide are happy to be alive.
It is temporary.
You can be saved.
The government, they said this in 2017, they could save $140 million by killing people instead of treating them.
This is the nightmare scenario of government healthcare.
The system has to be paid for somehow.
The system gets strained.
People aren't getting, there's long lines, there's complaints, people start protesting and they say, okay, we need to figure out how to free up the system.
I got it.
We just kill people.
That's what Canada is doing.
To save money and treat people, they will kill those.
This is like, it's governmental Darwinism.
luke rudkowski
Or eugenics, or democide, another way of saying it.
Sorry, go ahead.
scott presler
No, just think about COVID.
We had doctors who were saying that we shouldn't be treating patients who were suffering from
COVID because they didn't make the choice to get the vaccine.
And you know, similar to what we saw with the censorship from Twitter, I think it's
really no different.
Who is in control is going to be deciding who gets benefited from the government.
And same for what we were talking about earlier with the Brittany decision.
The Marine wasn't chosen.
The American Loving Freedom Fighting Marine was discarded over the gay black woman basketball player because it was decided by the government that that person was more important than the other person.
And that's exactly what we would see from government-decided healthcare.
You know, just think about a young person versus an old person.
If they made the decision, why would they choose to give the kidney to the older person?
Because they would probably say, oh, they've got less life to live.
They've got less value.
luke rudkowski
They already did that here in the United States when it came to deciding who's going to get care based on their skin color.
In Houston, people were denied life-saving treatment because they weren't black.
Because they weren't in the stereotype.
They weren't a minority, according to the group.
And they were saying, well, too bad.
You're a young male and you can't get this treatment.
Which is absolutely insane.
tim pool
This is why I'm going to open a hotel That's gonna have four floors and each is a suite and each one is a decade.
The 90s, the 80s, the 70s and the 60s.
And you'll go in like the 90s hotel and everything's from the 90s.
You turn the TV on, it's good old 90s TV and you can forget about all of the insanity.
Just plug into this fake world.
The windows will have TVs instead of windows.
ian crossland
It's not real steak.
tim pool
No, it is.
It will be real steak.
ian crossland
It tastes real, but it's not real.
tim pool
The pizza box from the 90s from Pizza Hut, and the Pizza Hut guy shows up with a smile on his face, 30 minutes or it's free, and he hands you a little bucket thing for your kid.
ian crossland
I'm making a Matrix reference, you know?
Cypher was like, why would you go back into the real world when you can live in the Matrix and taste this delicious steak?
And they're like, because it's not real in the Matrix.
You're just, you know?
tim pool
You know, maybe there's a... And then what we'll do is, we'll actually, we'll build a big complex on like 50 acres, and we'll create a 90s city, just so that, like, think about it, you know?
ian crossland
Only landlines, no cell phones?
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no cell, well I mean your phone will work because you're there, but it'll be like a theme park, and you'll go in and everything's 90s, it'll be like walking into a 90s downtown, there'll be like a TV store, there'll be cassette tapes... People riding bikes all All over the place.
scott presler
Silver diners everywhere.
Silver diners, you know?
tim pool
You see Friends is on TV, and then it can just wash away all of the troubles.
All of the troubles.
luke rudkowski
There's no Ubers.
They're just bikes.
You have to bike around everywhere to get some exercise.
ian crossland
The 90s I thought were really depressing.
They were cool, but it was like, because it was depressing, people made the best of it.
In the early 90s, Kurt Cobain was horribly depressed.
tim pool
But Ian, just imagine.
You're walking down the street, there's a guy, and then, you know, he waves to you, and then all of a sudden he's carrying a boombox on his shoulder, and then you hear the radio DJ say, you know, and now, the big hit, Inside Out, by Eve Six, sweeping the nation, because people carry boomboxes on their shoulders and that, at least that's what TV tells me.
And then you just, you won't remember any of the troubles outside of this theme park, and the euthanasia, and all that stuff.
Okay, I'm kidding, but we gotta go to Super Chats.
So if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, become a member at TimCast.com, we're going to have a members-only show coming up for you uncensored!
Not censored, uncensored.
Let's read.
Jay Marie says, Ian, you're almost there, brother.
Your desire to find the truth will lead you in a proper direction.
My latest is articulating the points you have been saying lately.
It's three minutes and called Change the World.
Jay Marie Thesis Podcast.
ian crossland
Dude, I made a video called Change the World that was about three minutes, too, in 2007.
tim pool
That proves it.
ian crossland
Or we are changing the world.
It was something like that.
It's on YouTube.
I think I figured out.
I kept saying that if you're not... Don't make me copyright you.
If you don't believe in God, you're not Jewish.
I was saying that a couple, like, last week.
I'm starting to wonder, and I'm thinking about it.
I was doing some research on the history of Israel, and I think what happened is the Judaism comes from Judah, the son of Jacob.
Jacob was known as Israel.
God called him Israel after he wrestled with an angel.
And so, like, they're really Israeli.
Like, the culture is Israeli.
It comes from Jacob, the tribe of Jacob.
But the problem is then, the belief in God and the understanding all kind of infuses into the culture and becomes like their constitution, so it's tough to separate.
tim pool
I have a better solution for you.
Talk to a rabbi.
ian crossland
Yeah, multiple rabbis.
I'm so down.
And again, Bryson Gray last night, fantastic conversation.
luke rudkowski
Let's bring back Hersey.
tim pool
Oh yeah, yeah.
Heshy Tishler.
ian crossland
Heshy Tishler, my man!
luke rudkowski
Bring him on.
ian crossland
Love to.
tim pool
All right, here we go.
Black Lion Grunt says, Tim, in your 90s hotel, you must have a Nintendo 64 with Goldeneye, Mario Kart 64, Star Fox, and Perfect Dark, and on one of the TV channels, the Frieza saga of Dragon Ball Z. You know it.
I already have an N64 with all those games, but someone sent me this website.
It's like my90stv.com.
Was that what it was?
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
And I turned it on.
And it was, uh, Dragon Warrior, the anime, was on one of the channels.
And it's like, it's, it's, I think, Akira Toriyama, is that the guy who does the art for that?
ian crossland
My90sTV, it's 9-0-S.
My90sTV.com.
tim pool
And you can, it's like, you turn the TV on and it plays shows.
Oh man, that's a commercial for Friends.
It's like, Ross is gonna ask out Rachel or something.
I don't know, I don't watch Friends.
All right.
Seth Weathers says, I didn't pay Scott to wear that shirt, but I would have.
Ballot Harvest 2024.
ian crossland
Seth Weathers.
scott presler
He did.
He sent it to me.
tim pool
Ballot Harvesting 2024.
What do we got?
scott presler
Red Wing?
Oh, sorry.
I would just think that'd be very popular, you know, at your 90s hotel.
You have like a Rugrats room.
You have like a Mario Party room.
I think really that would be a moneymaker.
tim pool
Well, the idea is like it's an apartment that looks like from the 90s.
You turn the TV on and it's playing a bunch of channels like a legitimate Full channel guide of 90s shows, back-to-back, the news, everything's at 5 o'clock, the 5 o'clock news comes on.
On the fridge will be like a Pizza Hut thing when you call it.
It just goes to our guys, but then they'll make a pizza for you, put it in the old-school pizza box and bring it with like RC or whatever.
ian crossland
Dude, if we're talking about four-player GoldenEye, man, rocket launchers in the temple.
That's right.
Or proximity mines in the complex.
tim pool
I think we'll have a bunch of like 50-year-old dudes.
Being like, oh man, I remember this back in the day.
ian crossland
It's so slow when I play it now.
Have you guys played Goldeneye?
Did you ever play Goldeneye back in the day?
scott presler
Oh yeah.
ian crossland
It was so awesome.
Now it's real slow.
Everything moves at half speed.
People keep thinking faster and faster.
unidentified
You go in the vents and you plant the mines so when they spawn, they instantly die.
tim pool
Redwing Blackbird says, Elon Musk didn't Vince Foster himself.
I wonder what that one means.
I wonder what that one means.
luke rudkowski
That person is in the know.
They know what's going on.
tim pool
Mimic says, so Libs of TikTok was set to not safe for work for sharing things happening in schools full of children, so it's not safe for work, but totally fine for kids?
These people make me want to throw up.
Yeah.
Okay.
Rilo says, hey Tim, I pray you're alright, man.
Could get a nightly news host only around for one show opener, 1950s-style dry reporting of national news.
Someone separate from opinion content.
I get my news here.
Yeah, we're good.
We're sort of inadvertently building out a 24-hour news channel.
Because, uh, we, you know, we do this show every night, 8 to 10, but then we started, you know, Pop Culture Crisis, Brett and Mary hosting it, and they do 3 to 5, I believe, and now we're doing, um, Gamer Maids at, uh, I think, what was that, 5 to 7 or something like that?
ian crossland
I think so.
I'm not 100% sure.
tim pool
Uh-huh.
They chose that name, and I had to say it that way on purpose, Gamer, comma, Maids.
ian crossland
Not, not, not Gamer Maids.
unidentified
I love it.
tim pool
That's the name they wanted.
I don't know.
Whatever.
ian crossland
Theme is optional.
tim pool
And everyone laughed when they heard it.
unidentified
It took me a second, but it's awesome.
tim pool
Yeah.
It's because they're gamers.
And they're maids.
Like maidens or something, I guess.
So, gamer maids.
ian crossland
Maybe gamer maidens might be a better name.
unidentified
Yeah, gamer maidens sounds better.
tim pool
Gamer maidens.
But is a mermaiden like a lady mermaid or something?
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
All right.
Okay, Kat Osterhout says, Tim, last night in the after show, you, Ian, and Serge gave the most beautifully balanced scientific explanations for evolution without excluding the divine for the equation.
Thanks for the deep dive.
Yeah, basically last night we had this really long conversation with Bryson Gray, and I'll just try and summarize.
I think the position that we all had was, I believe in God.
There is a system in place where things are happening, and the mechanism by which God created the universe, we only understand a tiny bit of, but the formation of the universe, atoms, particles, that's all the structure created by God, and you watch it, you know, happen, I guess.
At least, like, we watch it happen in the tiniest bit.
So, you know, Bryson was saying, He didn't believe in evolution.
He thought that none of this could be random.
But my view is like, it's not random.
It's God's plan.
It's like, everything is happening in this way that leads to this conclusion on purpose.
ian crossland
Fibonacci sequence, you see it in nature a lot, like this chirality of imbalance of nature, where at some point in the growth process, something will just create a differential.
Someone left a great comment on TimCast.com on the video about chirality.
And I think when he was saying, like, why does it become a tree?
He was more, maybe he really wanted to know how does it become a tree?
And that's a question of, like, how is it happening?
Well, I don't know if any of us can really answer that.
tim pool
All right, here's a good one.
Eric Miller says, Tim, you and Luke pushed fake news.
Y'all said Bryson Gray was the third rapper on IRL, but you've had Zuby, Rukka Rukka Ali, and I've heard Alex Stein, Primetime99, has some bars as well.
I demand a retracto alpaca immediately.
luke rudkowski
Well, they're not really rappers now.
I mean, they're more like commentators, social media personalities.
But the other people are known just for being rappers, right?
Zuby's known for breaking the woman's world record.
tim pool
No, well, Zuby was doing rap well before any of that.
So just because you heard of him from something else doesn't take away... Of course, of course.
ian crossland
He has a fit in a box.
He's an everyman.
tim pool
Yeah, and he's got a bunch of songs.
He did a song with... He worked with Bryson Gray, and he's on Spotify.
So, Rukka Rukka Ali also, fair point.
But we did say this in the show.
We did correct and said, oh yeah, we were wrong about that.
So, and it's not a retracto alpaca.
That's a Veritas thing.
We have correcto, which is the...
Legally distinct version of the the alpaca and correcto is when we make a mistake, we pull out correcto the alpaca to admit it.
Whereas with James O'Keefe, when he forces someone else to correct their mistake, retracto comes out to gloat.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Ours is derivative and a total knockoff.
That's the gag.
There's an alpaca farm out here and they sell these little things.
You can see it's behind Scott right there.
Okay, ooh, some of these, oof.
TakingBackToxic says, Libs of TikTok can sue Twitter, and then Elon can fire the SIP team for cause and terminate their golden parachutes and pay out damages from that.
But didn't he fire them already, you know?
Fire these guys?
Maybe he didn't.
MagicNoise was talking about how there's some, like, British intelligence guys working at Twitter or something like that.
ian crossland
We gotta get him on the show.
tim pool
Magic?
ian crossland
Yeah, he has yet to be on IRL, I think.
Has he been on once?
tim pool
Didn't we have him on recently?
ian crossland
He was at the event with us at Mines.
I don't think... I haven't seen him lately.
But Magic, I love... I mean, he's one of my great... I think of him as a great friend.
I've only met him a couple times or once, but I love him.
He's just so insightful.
tim pool
I could have sworn we had him on, but did we not have him on?
ian crossland
Yeah, I think we did.
We did.
But I wanna have him on again.
tim pool
We have a lot of people on the show, like four, five hundred people or something.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Crazy.
A lot of people come through these doors.
Talon86 says, so do we start a Tim Pool was right jar?
No.
It's like, I don't know man, it's a coin toss over here.
Mostly, I'll put it this way, here's what I say.
You know what we get right?
We get right the contemporary news.
When the Covington Kid thing happens, we don't just pile on and jump on the crowd of what was wrong.
We say, hold on there a minute, and we try our best to get it right.
That also means people are going to call me a milquetoast fence-sitter for not outright just saying, this is what happened, because I would prefer not to, unless I know for sure.
So sometimes we get things right, predictions.
Sometimes we get things wrong.
But usually when we're in the news, we heavily fact check and like double check sources.
So we have a tendency on current events to get it right.
Predictions are something totally different.
luke rudkowski
No one is always, always right.
tim pool
Yeah.
Just Alex Jones.
All the time.
unidentified
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
tim pool
You mean, you mean there aren't fifth dimensional aliens who are trying to, you know, there's a, there's more likelihood that there probably is.
luke rudkowski
Uh, I was just talking about his like Julian Assange comments before.
tim pool
Oh really?
What he was opposed to Assange or something?
unidentified
Yeah.
Oh wow.
tim pool
Okay, what do we got here?
Not The Bomb says, HB 5855 Illinois is trying to make felons out of people owning assault weapons.
Mags greater than 10 rounds and create registry.
Praying GOA saves us.
GOA?
What is that?
luke rudkowski
I have no idea.
scott presler
I don't know.
Gun Owners of America.
tim pool
Oh, okay.
Alright, well there you go.
That's right.
Well then, let's read some more.
Because of the Moon says, first time listener, long time super chatter.
Really?
With the religious conversation yesterday, a great guest would be Ken Ham.
He's president of Answers in Genesis and the Ark Museum in Kentucky.
His lectures, speeches are scientific.
It's really cool stuff.
I'm totally down for conversations like that.
I love philosophical questions, conversations, trying to understand the universe, trying to understand faith and religion.
That's the most important stuff to me, to be completely honest.
ian crossland
Last night I was looking at the full moon, speaking of spirit, and I took my glasses off and it was all blurry, and I could see the moon.
And I started to see the flower of life in the moon.
Do you know the flower of life?
It's like this geometric pattern.
It's similar to that.
But at first it was just five.
It looked like a star in it.
I was like, whoa, I see the Star of David with a big circle in the middle.
It looked like a hand with an eye in it.
I was seeing these amazing shapes in the light.
luke rudkowski
How much drugs were you on?
Zero!
unidentified
I was gonna say, he was completely sober during this moment.
tim pool
What was that story about, like, the wolf in the sky talking to you or something?
ian crossland
It was disturbing.
I, um, I was meditating on my roof, and I was reaching out, looking out into space, and like, if there's life out there, I'm gonna drop my magnetic field and let it experience me and connect with me.
And then I felt this wolf-man hominid creature, like a wolf that had got ahold of psilocybin, And it sensed me, and it knew where I was.
And I was like, did I just reveal our location to some other species that wants to consume human flesh?
Felt like it.
And I was like, well, that's dangerous.
That's dangerous.
unidentified
Well, all right.
scott presler
Moral of the story.
unidentified
Do not meditate.
tim pool
No, no, no.
Fair point.
Don't drop your magnetic shields while beckoning out to the universe without proper guidance.
ian crossland
It's a chance to be kind.
Yeah, you need to be ready to be kind to that force, because it's probably like a Klingon force.
It will think we're an enemy and treat us like an enemy unless we can befriend it.
tim pool
People in the chat think that Ian's high, but he's not.
scott presler
And remember, it's like a Ouija board.
You open the door.
If you, on that roof, didn't close the magnetic shield, then it's still open.
ian crossland
I closed it.
scott presler
Okay.
ian crossland
After I felt that, I was like, ooh.
unidentified
All right.
So can we blame you?
tim pool
David C. David C. Kronk Sr.
says, Scott, I'm very proud of your work.
You're a role model for today's youth.
Here's a suggestion.
Ballot harvesting at churches and gun ranges.
scott presler
Oh, I'm all over it, baby.
And I have to give a shout out to our East Valley Republican women because they have this office in the valley, you know, right outside of the desert.
And they apparently did tens of thousands of ballots that they had Republicans come to the Republican office and ballot harvest right there.
So yeah, let's do it at churches.
Let's do it at gun shops, gun shows.
Brilliant.
tim pool
Joe says, Tim and crew, this story has already been told in the Bible.
We are in a spiritual battle against the spirit of the age.
We've become a godless nation.
It's revival or bust.
Call it what it is, evil, then mock it relentlessly.
Yeah, there's a lot of evil, man.
ian crossland
I'm concerned that we don't overcompensate against what we think is evil, because if you get too extreme with what you think is good, it can become another form of evil.
tim pool
See, Mac says oath breakers.
Cops broke oath to their community.
That's right.
Maybe I'll put that on the billboard.
Beware dirty cops, aka oath breakers.
I think just beware dirty cops with their picture is probably sufficient.
You know, they're dirty cops, man.
You're a dirty cop.
Alright.
Midas says the time of blatantly supporting cops is over.
So many are just extensions of a draconian elite.
No longer are they members of the community.
Instead of assuming the best and defending them, let's hold them accountable.
Here's my thing.
I'm not gonna play a stupid game where I'm like, you know, yelling out ACAB or anything like that.
Because I have cops that are... that help me to the best of their abilities.
It's just that their abilities are limited.
And so, uh, these cops are cool.
There are bad cops.
A lot of them.
And the system in big cities is completely broken.
And in a place like Fredericksburg, where, you know, it's just the latest iteration of the story.
The other story we saw was the blind guy in Florida.
The lady cop was like, what is that?
And he's like, it's my walking cane, and then she basically arrests him because he told her to F off.
Like, these are dirty cops.
And I'm sick of it, and something's gotta be done about it.
So, these police officers that break their oath to the Constitution, and spit in the faces of the people who wanted to back the blue, need to be reminded that ain't nobody gonna be backing you if you trample on those who are actually supporting you.
So, so long as no one actually wants to call them out, The cops are gonna be like, I can do whatever I want because conservatives are too stupid to say anything about it, and the left hates me anyway.
ian crossland
Do, like, local cops, if they disagree with these edicts, do they just get together, like, in private, a bunch of, like, just of the officers and say, we're gonna go to supervisor and just refuse, sir, we're not, we're not doing it?
tim pool
I've heard stories of them being like, you can't send me, I won't do that.
And then they just get a different cop to go do it.
ian crossland
So they really needed a union of everybody.
tim pool
Well, or they need people to finally be like, hey, we're not going to tolerate this.
luke rudkowski
Well, officers also have discretion and they decide, you know, how they're going to be implementing a lot of the things that they're told to implement.
ian crossland
So it looked like a gormel.
It was like state police.
It would look a couple of states.
tim pool
It would look like local and state.
ian crossland
That's a way around unionizing.
tim pool
There's a clear shot of all their faces, thanks to that video.
And I'm going to take screenshots, and we're going to put up a billboard.
I'll put them as far as I can.
It'll be moderately expensive, but it will feel really, really good to do.
If anything.
If that's all I get out of it is some kind of emotional satisfaction, then, you know, that's good enough for me.
You know, what else am I going to do?
Complain on the internet about it?
unidentified
That works, too.
tim pool
Well, I was thinking about it.
I was like, what if we just did, like, a segment where it's like we dedicate a week to, you know, calling out people doing bad things, be it a politician or... I don't want to just rag on cops for the sake of ragging on cops.
That's stupid.
Like, in this instance, we have bad cops, but there's a ton of bad politicians.
And then I'm like, yeah, but the people who watch this show, they know, right?
How do we reach new people?
Yeah, just put up a billboard.
I'll call up my ad agency and say, like, what have you got in Fredericksburg and the surrounding suburbs?
And then we'll put up a bunch of billboards with these cops' faces on it.
And then when they go out to eat one day, some guy's gonna go, hey, you're that dirty cop I saw on 95.
They're gonna go, what?
Like, yeah, you're the dirty cop!
You're a dirty cop!
And they're gonna be like, why are you calling me that?
Because your face is on billboards all over town.
Because you did something.
That'll feel really good.
ian crossland
I've always been in the mindset of, like, work with law enforcement because what else do we have?
luke rudkowski
You snitch!
ian crossland
And I'm like, when you learn about the Nazis and how they use law enforcement to just annihilate people, it's so great.
luke rudkowski
We should have a bonehead of the week award and the person who wins the award gets to be put on the billboard.
unidentified
Right?
luke rudkowski
I mean, that could be something that we could brainstorm together and be like, hey, the worst person this week was...
And then we could have the award, and we could give them an actual award.
It could be like a dirty sock.
tim pool
Well, we recently acquired a building for the new cafe that we're putting up.
It's happening.
Remember, I've been talking about wanting to do this coffee house.
It's happening.
That's why I said we're going to be selling coffee.
We have a coffee brand.
Everything's getting set up, but the building's there.
I wonder if I could put a big billboard on it.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, you probably can.
tim pool
And then, you know, I don't know about once a week, but once a month.
You know, bonehead of the month.
luke rudkowski
Yeah.
tim pool
And then just slap their thing up on a big billboard in the middle of town.
luke rudkowski
There's probably a better creative name that we could think of for this.
tim pool
Dirtbag?
luke rudkowski
Yeah, Dirtbag's pretty good.
I like that one too.
tim pool
It's got to be alliterative.
If it was a digital billboard, we could do the Daily Dirtbag.
unidentified
Yeah?
That sounds good.
tim pool
Daily Dirtbag.
But no, but you need them to be up there longer than a week.
So what's a W word that's derisive?
unidentified
Wacko.
tim pool
Wacko?
Nah, but it's got to imply like... I'm not, I'm not so... Wiener head.
luke rudkowski
Weird as... Wiener head Wednesday.
tim pool
I'm not concerned about weirdos or, or wackos.
I'm concerned about the corrupt.
Dirtbag, scumbag, wicked.
luke rudkowski
There you go, that's a good one.
tim pool
The Weekly Wicked Award?
Nah, wicked sounds too cool.
luke rudkowski
That's true.
unidentified
Weasel?
It'd be like, I won.
tim pool
Yeah, Weasel Award.
luke rudkowski
It needs to have more oomph.
The people will figure this out for us.
tim pool
The Gigantic Piece of Human Crap Award.
And then it's a steaming crap that we put on their head and billboard.
Just big, big billboard.
Crap head.
luke rudkowski
Doodoo head.
tim pool
Dirtbag award.
Are people giving suggestions?
luke rudkowski
Weekly wuss is one of them.
tim pool
Tyrant of the week.
unidentified
Yep.
luke rudkowski
Weasels.
Weekly weasels.
tim pool
All right, Vinyl Cover 1987 says, Tim, I'm a detective in a major metropolitan area in Texas, and I'm getting less and less back the blue, despite solving on violent crime cases.
Hope Luke doesn't hate me.
Ian, you're cool.
luke rudkowski
Rock and roll.
I don't hate you, man.
But, you know.
tim pool
Yeah, like, hate's the wrong word.
Loathe is probably better.
unidentified
Who was that?
ian crossland
That was a cop in Texas?
tim pool
Yeah, a detective.
ian crossland
He's saying it's been rough lately?
Sentiment?
tim pool
A lot of people are given money saying, do the billboard, do the billboard, do the billboard.
It really just depends on, look, you know, I said I want to do it, people are giving me superchats, just keep in mind, I might not be able to.
The billboard agency might be like, no, no, no, we're not going to get involved in this.
They probably won't, because money talks and BS walks.
They usually just say, I'll send it up the chain, see what they say.
And a lot of the billboards on highways and in cities that are just standalone billboards are owned by those companies, and they will take money for basically anything.
luke rudkowski
I've been getting a lot of private messages from police officers who are like, please don't hate me.
Essentially saying that I don't hate you guys.
If there's a good officer that actually does help the community and does good, you guys are awesome.
You guys deserve help.
You guys deserve to be complimented.
But when an officer does something wrong and abuses their position of power, they deserve to be called out.
So I know not to judge, but, you know, we got to call a spade a spade here, and the only way to root out the bad people is to call out the bad.
So that's what I'm trying to do here.
I don't hate any of you guys.
tim pool
Do you think it would work, right?
Do you think that these cops in the Fredericksburg metropolitan area If we put up like 15 billboards, do you think they would see that and start sweating bullets being like, oh man, I really shouldn't be doing this?
luke rudkowski
Yeah, absolutely.
And it would make them, you know, think twice about their discretion and how they use their authority over the people and what they're going to be doing next time.
Because, obviously, there's no way an average person could look at the situation and be like, yeah, the cops did the right thing there.
unidentified
Because they didn't.
luke rudkowski
They didn't do the right thing.
tim pool
They have no sanctuary with the left.
None.
There's not going to be a circumstance where a cop goes to a bunch of leftists and says, the anti-vaxxers are yelling at me.
They're going to laugh and be like, go cry somewhere else.
scott presler
Except for J6.
tim pool
Right, of course.
scott presler
They get an award.
tim pool
Yes.
But, you know, good luck going to leftist activists as a cop and being like, will you
please serve me a cheeseburger?
The right's mad at me because of COVID lockdown stuff.
They're going to be like, screw off, you white supremacist.
scott presler
Well, I think it's similar to I've been listening to people say, you know, the left, no, excuse
me, corporations know that the right is always going to have their back.
Right.
And do tax breaks or whatever or support them.
And so therefore they pander to the left because they know they'll always have the support of the right.
And it's kind of like the black community.
The left knows that the majority of black citizens are going to vote Democratic, and so therefore, they don't really have to do anything to make the black community happy because they know that the majority of black citizens are going to vote for them regardless.
And so the only way to have neutrality or to have police or corporations or politicians actually fight for us is if we move away from being left or right, but going towards the center, because then everybody is going to have to earn our support.
And I think that would actually make society much safer and more equitable.
tim pool
I don't want to forget, so I literally just texted my ad agent, like, the ad salesperson.
It's a different company, it's not our company.
It's like, the person who does the sales, I just literally texted them, like, you got any inventory in Fredericksburg?
I don't want to forget, because I think we have to do it.
unidentified
Maybe we acknowledge an officer that did really well, too.
So you're bashing the people that should be bashed, and then you're acknowledging... It's hard to do, and it's really expensive.
Right.
tim pool
But not a bad idea.
My thing is, do we offer a path to redemption first?
Like, apologize to this man, and say you were wrong.
Otherwise, we're going to call you out for being a dirty cop.
scott presler
I think I think that would be a reasonable way to start.
First, see if there's any remorse for what they did.
But if they're like, no, I did the right thing, I didn't do anything wrong, and I'm gonna do it again, if in the same situation, then yes, billboard, baby.
Billboard.
tim pool
I think probably just to be clean, safe, and make sure everything's above board.
You're a bad cop, you did something bad, I put up a billboard.
We should create a non-profit.
luke rudkowski
You could fundraise it probably.
tim pool
You know what I should do?
So a lot of people have asked about the fact-checking non-profit because it was like two years ago I said we're gonna do this thing and everyone's like yeah right and I'm like we're gonna do it.
It takes like two and a half years to get certified and get all the paperwork and everything so the company exists but we're waiting for a non-profit certification because we're trying to get a 501c3 not a c4.
This means it can't be political it's just going to do fact-checking.
It's in the works.
It exists.
The paperwork has been filed.
It just takes forever.
It would be great to do the same thing.
Fundraising to put up billboards to call out people who do bad things.
We would take submissions from the donors, like, who do you think is a person of political power who has acted improperly?
Send us videos, and there could be videos of cops doing bad things, videos of politicians doing bad things.
And then we raise money just to put up billboards.
The ad industry?
They will love us.
Because billboards are rather ineffective these days, and they struggle to sell the inventory, because people are like, I can buy on Facebook, I get it right there on their phone, I don't need to be up there.
luke rudkowski
But this will get everyone talking about it.
tim pool
Right.
luke rudkowski
And there'll be a lot of media reports.
tim pool
And this means the billboard companies are going to have guaranteed sales, and they're going to be like, whatever brings money into our industry in a dying, you know, medium.
So, I think that's a good idea.
Alright, we'll grab one more.
All right, Miguel Alvarez says, Serge did a great job last night in the Members Only Show.
Perfectly explained what many of us were thinking.
unidentified
I agree.
tim pool
I think he did a much better job than I. But, you know, religious conversations can be frustrating sometimes, but I think they're absolutely awesome.
So, if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, become a member over at TimCast.com.
Head over to TimCast.com right now.
Click join us.
Sign up, we're gonna have a members-only show coming up for you.
Should be live around 11 p.m., and it's usually not so family-friendly and a little bit spicy.
You can follow the show at TimCastIRL on Instagram, we have clips.
You can follow me personally at TimCast everywhere, and go follow at TimCastNews on Twitter, because we had Elad Eliyahu, he's our ground reporter, At the New York Times during the strike, filming all the stuff, and he routinely goes out and asks real questions of these people.
He doesn't do any of the gotcha stuff.
None of that phony, make a person look dumb.
He actually asked the New York Times Union some legitimate questions about their concerns.
You can really learn from this stuff.
Plus, we post our stories.
Scott, do you want to shout anything out?
scott presler
Yeah, I just wanted to say what I'm going to be working on very briefly for the future.
You know, I just came back from Georgia, disappointing results, but you know, that's not going to keep us from moving forward.
So here are my goals.
For anybody that's more politically minded, I am working to make sure that we have new leadership at the Republican National Committee.
I think six years of losses under our current chairwoman means it's time for change.
And that's why I'm endorsing and supporting Harmeet Dhillon for the next RNC chairwoman position.
And she's already indicated that one of her first roles would be to hire somebody like me.
And of course, I want to look at the stipulations and what would be contingent on my working for such an organization.
But that shows understanding that it's important to bring in the grassroots and to not only look at the consulting class or listen to the big donors, but listen to us.
Listen to the people.
It's pure populism.
Give the people what they want.
And immediately, I'm already working towards going to Louisiana.
And Kentucky to flip those governorships from blue to red, as well as working on my state of Virginia to make sure that with Governor Glenn Youngkin, if we take the state Senate, if we take the House of Delegates, we're going to be able to pass legislation at the state level to buck against the federal government.
Because all these conversations we're having are wonderful, but we need to actually implement those policies into law to affect real change.
And I'm also going to be focusing on Jersey.
So if anybody's interested in helping, please slide into my DMs in the most wholesome of manner.
And you can find me at Scott Pressler, S-C-O-T-T-P-R-E-S-L-E-R.
I'm also on True Social, Getter, Telegram, Facebook, Gab, and Parler.
tim pool
Andy Ngo tweeted something out about a half an hour ago that I have to mention before we go, that the head of Twitter's strategic response team, guess where he worked immediately before Twitter?
scott presler
FBI.
tim pool
United States Marine Corps Intelligence, and guess who he assisted partially during his tenure?
luke rudkowski
James Comey.
tim pool
The CIA and the FBI.
And then immediately after leaving those roles, he gets a job at Twitter.
unidentified
Wow.
Sean.
tim pool
Luke, you want to shout anything out?
luke rudkowski
Oh, imagine the coincidence that happened there.
Thank you Stux and Hammer for coming on the show.
I really appreciate that.
Sorry, I had to.
It's the hair.
You're awesome.
Scott, that was a great conversation.
Thank you so much for coming on.
What was your Twitter again?
scott presler
At Scott Pressler.
unidentified
Great.
luke rudkowski
Thank you so much.
My YouTube channel is WeAreChange.
YouTube is not showing anyone the video I did today.
I worked very hard on it.
I talked about a lot of the crazy AI stuff, a lot of the stuff happening geopolitically.
Check it out.
YouTube.com forward slash WeAreChange.
And I'll be there talking to you guys in the chat.
ian crossland
If you don't know the Stux and Hammer references.
Stix.
Hex and Hammer.
666, the YouTuber.
scott presler
I know who that is, yes.
ian crossland
Beautiful hair.
scott presler
He's supported on some of my work, and I'm just glad, by the way, that I was not on that episode of Tim Pool, because I saw that, and it was 666.
I was like, uh-uh.
unidentified
I was like, I'm glad I'm not on that one.
tim pool
Michael was excited for it.
ian crossland
Yeah, that was a wonderful week.
Hey, thanks for coming again, Scott.
Always great to see you, man.
scott presler
Thank you.
unidentified
And now whenever I see the moon...
scott presler
I'm going to think of you seeing the flower of life and meditating in a wolf spirit, and it's just going to do it for me from now on for the rest of my life.
ian crossland
Open up your field.
Align your chakras.
You've got good posture.
Kellen, tell me about the evening.
What's up, man?
unidentified
Hey, Scott, it was great to meet you.
It was a great conversation.
I had a lot of fun tonight.
Everyone watching, you can find me at kellenpdl.
I'm mostly active on Twitter.
Again, I was filling in for Serge.
I don't know if he'll be back tomorrow, but hopefully he will.
But yeah, thanks guys.
tim pool
We will see you all over at timcast.com.
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