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Nov. 12, 2022 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Timcast IRL - Pharma LOSES BILLIONS After Fake Tweet, Twitter IN CHAOS w/Corin Nemec, Amanda Milius
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amanda milius
31:05
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corin nemec
29:30
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ian crossland
06:13
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luke rudkowski
12:01
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tim pool
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tim pool
Twitter's in chaos, man.
So basically what happens is people have been creating accounts, signing up for Twitter Blue on the iPhone, getting instantly verified, and somebody made a fake Twitter account for Eli Lilly, a big pharma company, and tweeted that insulin would be free, and then first thing, their market cap just collapses!
Stock price plummeting billions!
And the speculation is that the fake verified tweet that went viral convinced people that some big move was happening and it caused chaos in the market.
Twitter has suspended Twitter Blue.
You can no longer get verified.
Elon shut it down.
unidentified
Wow!
tim pool
It's getting crazy.
They brought back the double verification for advertisers, so now they're verified, and then they also have an extra verification.
Yo, if the end result of all of this is that Twitter just blows up, I ain't gonna cry all that much about it.
I mean, there's a net positive to having this social network for sure, but so be it.
It's the activist organizing ground, and people who believe in liberty and individualism are banned from it, so...
Yeah, okay, fine, whatever.
But that's an interesting story in and of itself.
We got a lot more to talk about.
Carrie Lake, she says she's not going to be giving up.
The current trends suggest she will win, even though she's down.
However, that's just a trend.
When people, when the experts, they come out and they're like looking at 2020's data, It looks like the last ballots coming through are absentee drop-offs, most of them.
And those skew Republican, but the trend may not be predictive, we don't know.
So it's entirely possible she doesn't.
However, again, based on the trends that we've seen last year, and they're playing out exactly the same way this year, they do believe she will win.
But it is not over, so we'll talk about that.
The other big news, Lauren Boebert's now winning, and expected to win, despite all the mockery people are throwing at her, but that's it.
I don't know.
I don't know to what degree the story is true, but Ann Coulter is basically saying that Donald Trump is not going to support Walker in Georgia for the runoff, which is just crazy.
Because, okay, fine, whatever.
But, you know, look, so long as Republicans win the House, I think we'll get to see something happen in the next couple of years.
So it's going to be a lot of fun.
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ian crossland
They're mine, Tim.
tim pool
They're his.
Okay, fine.
ian crossland
No, I'll give some rocks away.
Let's do it.
tim pool
Ian's rock.
ian crossland
Somebody want a ruby?
tim pool
One of his rocks.
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Joining us today to talk about this and so much more is the ever-lovely Amanda Milius.
Welcome back.
amanda milius
Thanks.
tim pool
Who are you?
amanda milius
The person who is allergic to drinking that is having coffee.
unidentified
That is nice.
amanda milius
Tell your listeners to just relax.
Everything's going to be fine.
tim pool
Are people commenting about it or something?
amanda milius
Probably.
It was a hot topic.
It's been a hot topic for the rest of my life.
Thank you very much.
tim pool
Chad Prather did leave tequila on the table.
amanda milius
No, dude.
No, no.
As I said, I don't drink.
luke rudkowski
Milo's wine's right here, by the way.
unidentified
I'm allergic to it.
amanda milius
No, I'm good.
And we all saw what happened.
People literally asked me if I quaaluded myself.
Wow.
corin nemec
I don't even make those anymore.
amanda milius
I mean, I can understand why.
tim pool
You have this long career, you're doing all this work.
amanda milius
No, I've done all these things!
tim pool
And then people are like, you're the drunk chick!
amanda milius
No, no, no, that happens.
At CPAC or anywhere, if I go to any conference that's not NatCon, where I know everybody, 7 out of 10 people will come up to me and they'll be like, hey, are you Amanda Milius?
And I'm like, yeah, hi.
I'm like, OK, they want a picture.
Or they're like, oh, your movie meant so much to me.
Or like, da-da-da-da-da, as it used to be.
Now it's just like, God, that was really funny.
You were just hammered on Timcast.
Can I get a picture?
And I'm like, okay.
tim pool
Well, you're sober now.
amanda milius
Yeah.
I, uh, and, and I can explain.
Like I'm, Literally allergic to alcohol.
So, like, we're having some coffee.
unidentified
Excellent.
amanda milius
We've got some lip gloss.
I don't know if you need some, if anybody needs some lip gloss.
And we've got some water.
tim pool
I've got turmeric coffee.
I'm really excited for this.
amanda milius
Dude, that's awesome.
That's gonna be good for your whole system.
I like that.
tim pool
So, Amanda, thanks for hanging out.
amanda milius
Thanks for having me back.
tim pool
Of course, of course.
We also have the very intrepid and famous Corin Nemec.
corin nemec
Hi, how are you?
So, who are you, good sir?
Well, Corin Emick, I am an actor, writer, producer, and all-around good guy.
tim pool
All-around.
unidentified
Modest, too.
Yeah, yeah.
corin nemec
Not available, though.
unidentified
Sorry, ladies.
amanda milius
For work or personally?
corin nemec
Personally.
tim pool
Is there something someone that the individuals may remember you from?
unidentified
Is there a show or anything you want to... Oh, loads of stuff.
corin nemec
I mean, I started acting as a child actor, and The first movie I did was with Francis Ford Coppola called Tucker, The Man in His Dream, playing Noble Tucker, Jeff Bridges' son in that.
But then I did the last season of Webster.
I was Nicky Papadopoulos.
I shared a room with Webster for a year while my parents were off teaching Africans how to grow potatoes.
That was true to the storyline, by the way.
unidentified
Wow.
corin nemec
And then went on to do Parker Lewis Can't Lose not too long after that.
Loads of movies in between that and Stargate and then was on Supernatural for a while and a bunch of just tons of stuff going on right now.
I just watched Stephen King's It.
And also was in The Stand.
I was in The Stand, the miniseries The Stand, playing Harold Louder.
ian crossland
Crazy movie.
corin nemec
Yes, yes.
That was great.
The original.
The original.
The good one.
tim pool
The good one.
amanda milius
The original is always the good one.
That works for Red Dawn as well, obviously.
And Apocalypse Now.
tim pool
A lot of people who watch are big fans of Stargate, so obviously the chat was all loaded up with SG-1 stuff.
corin nemec
Yeah, the Stargate is real, by the way.
I just want everybody to know that.
Yeah.
tim pool
Someone believes you, right?
I'm like, I knew it!
corin nemec
Eric von Daniken, he's proved it, I think.
amanda milius
So you were a child actor, and like, I don't know if this is too personal or not, but like, they tried to make me do that too, because my parents are from Hollywood, and I grew up there.
So you made it through, you never got raped or anything, you're good?
corin nemec
Lord knows I did not, but I did go to Alfie's Soda Pop Club, which was rape central for kids.
unidentified
Whoa!
amanda milius
Man, you made it out!
You're like the only one.
corin nemec
Yeah, there's nothing funny about it, but you know.
amanda milius
Have you ever been hypnotized?
corin nemec
No, I have not.
unidentified
Maybe you should try it and just see if... Oh, no, no, no.
corin nemec
Certainly not.
tim pool
All right.
Thanks for joining us.
We got Luke, of course.
amanda milius
Well, that's a very... I'm 100% sober.
luke rudkowski
Well, that's a very interesting necklace there, Corin.
So this should be a very illuminating conversation.
I don't know if you're trying to get recruited, but I don't know if this is the show to do it.
Anyway, my name is Luke Hradowski here of WeAreChange.org.
I come here with one simple message.
Become ungovernable!
corin nemec
I love that.
luke rudkowski
The less government, the better, in my opinion.
And if you agree, you can get the shirt on thebestpoliticalshirts.com.
I want to talk about the necklace.
I want to talk about everything people are talking about in the chat room, so it should be a great conversation.
tim pool
What necklace is it?
corin nemec
What is it?
Oh, it's a Freemasonic one.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
That'll be interesting.
Let's talk about it.
amanda milius
Oh, dude.
Okay, so is the main Masonic temple in Washington, the one in Alexandria, is it in my brain?
Like, is it?
It's the George Washington Mason.
It's the biggest one.
corin nemec
The Scottish Rite Temple in DC.
amanda milius
The thing at the top, what is it doing to my brain?
corin nemec
I'm not sure.
We'll talk about it.
That's something you have to figure out.
unidentified
So I need to get hypnotized apparently.
tim pool
Alright, alright.
We'll talk about it. We got Ian though.
ian crossland
I defer my time to the people talking about Masonic imagery.
No, I'm just kidding.
I don't have anything to start off with except I found out egg whites can be transformed into a material capable of filtering microplastics from seawater.
unidentified
This is news.
amanda milius
There's nothing that eggs can't do.
ian crossland
Dude, chickens.
Make yourself some chickens.
Grow some chickens.
amanda milius
Slonk some eggs, guys.
Y'all got some raw eggs we can slonk real quick before the show starts?
corin nemec
I have one in my pocket.
ian crossland
Slonk like five before the show.
We have hundreds of eggs that were cooked.
Surge, what's happening, brother?
unidentified
Hey, just hanging out.
Hopefully I don't screw up my intro today.
tim pool
All right, let's jump into this first story.
We have this tweet from Unusual Whale.
It says, this is wild.
Yesterday, a fake account tweeted that Eli Lilly and Co.
was giving insulin for free.
It was verified on Twitter.
Lilly is now down 5% or roughly $20 billion.
Here's the tweet.
It gets crazier because it's not just Eli Lilly.
They tweeted out with this fake, it's Eli Lilly and Co., verified.
We are excited to announce insulin is free now.
Take a look at this from Investor's Business Daily.
Eli Lilly dives after fake Twitter account promises free insulin, takes Novo Nordisk Sanofi with it.
unidentified
Twitter's going crazy.
luke rudkowski
There was a bunch of fake posts that were pretty hilarious.
amanda milius
The George W. Bush one.
unidentified
I was just going to say, the George W. Bush one.
luke rudkowski
George W. Bush allegedly posted, I miss killing Iraqis.
Me too.
Lockheed Martin said that they're going to stop selling weapons to Israel, Saudi Arabia, and the United States based on an investigation into human rights.
So there's someone trolling here.
unidentified
And at the end of the day, you know, Big Pharma already made a lot of profit.
luke rudkowski
This is not going to really hurt them.
And it's not going to hurt them like they hurt the American people.
tim pool
I was thinking about this earlier.
One I really liked was from Nestle.
It said, we steal your water and sell it back to you.
luke rudkowski
Where's the lie?
corin nemec
Where is it?
amanda milius
Suddenly Twitter's entirely truthful except for the fact that insulin's not going to be free.
tim pool
No, but what I was thinking as I was driving back from dinner, I was just like, man, this is really crazy, all this stuff's happening.
And then I was like, this is like the coolest thing ever.
It's just everything's been so routine and so boring.
And these fake tweets because of Elon has resulted in like a shock to the system.
This is exactly what I've been talking about.
Elon Musk threw a pie.
I've been saying it's very figuratively throw that by Elon.
amanda milius
Yeah, it's very... Elon 2024.
We're wrong.
tim pool
It's not DeSantis.
It's not... It's Elon.
unidentified
Well, he's not American.
luke rudkowski
He's South African, but he does get a lot of money from the government.
But what he did here is make Twitter interesting.
amanda milius
We've had African presidents before, haven't we?
Sorry.
unidentified
No.
luke rudkowski
Oh, wait.
Don't go there.
But he did make Twitter very interesting.
And this could be why there's allegedly record users on the platform today.
Because it's so wild, it's so crazy, you never know what's going to happen.
amanda milius
That's the thing, Twitter's not losing users.
tim pool
They're losing money.
amanda milius
Yeah, well, we will see, but they're losing other people's money.
unidentified
No, they're losing their own money.
tim pool
Elon said that they might go out of business.
Elon actually said we may not survive the economic downturn unless we get subscribers.
amanda milius
But that was when he took it over.
unidentified
No, no, no.
tim pool
This was like a day ago.
amanda milius
No, that's what I'm saying.
He came into a failing business.
unidentified
Yeah.
luke rudkowski
Look at what's happening with Facebook right now, too.
tim pool
It's not because of him.
Sort of.
The ad revenue stopped.
The big advertisers paused their money.
amanda milius
Oh, right.
tim pool
Activists went and said, do it or else.
amanda milius
Yeah.
tim pool
Elon's like, we gotta fill that gap with subscriptions.
amanda milius
And now they're saying- Now they can't do that.
tim pool
What they might do is make it so that Twitter blew verified accounts are the only way to see tweets and all non-paid accounts
will go into like a subcategory that you have to search for.
unidentified
We were already there though. I was shadow banned for 11 months.
amanda milius
It was crazy. Elon buys Twitter. So I was at 100. I never wanted to be this guy.
I mean I'm not a guy but I never wanted to be this guy that's like whining about
But I gotta say, for 11 months, I was at exactly 94.3, and it was only after I had hit 100K in less than a year.
So when you hit that number, something got triggered.
So all of a sudden, Elon buys Twitter, and in a week, I'm back up over 100K.
Tell me that's not nothing.
That's weird.
tim pool
Just have normal Twitter.
I'll give you the simple version.
I'll give you the simple version as to exactly what happened.
The reason Twitter was the free speech wing of the free speech party was because it was operating on investor cash.
They built up this big platform, making something fun and exciting.
Then the investors came and said, when do we get our return?
And they said, we will start selling ads.
They did.
The advertisers said, hey, we want to buy more ads, but you've got a bunch of Nazis on the platform.
And they said, okay, we'll ban them.
Then, a bunch of activists were like, that conservative guy is also a Nazi, and they said, okay, we'll ban them.
amanda milius
Exactly.
tim pool
They slowly started chopping away at the bloc, trying to make something they could sell to advertisers, killing the whole system in the process.
In 2015, Twitter was on the verge of shutting down completely.
People don't know this.
It was about to go out of business, until Donald Trump signed up.
Donald Trump was already there.
Until he came in and started tweeting up a covfefe, and then, all of a sudden, it was exciting.
Ads were making money again, but Twitter had to keep censoring because the activists were screaming and the advertisers were listening.
amanda milius
This is the best analysis I think I've heard on what actually happened.
tim pool
This is exactly what happened.
amanda milius
That's pretty good.
tim pool
I buy that.
Inside the company, Jack Dorsey is like, we need to find a way to make this Work.
And so he promises me years ago, like, we're going to create a path to redemption.
They never do.
And it's because of this.
Elon comes in and says, I'm going to bring excitement back to the platform.
And the advertisers immediately jump ship.
Now he says they're burning $4 million a day.
Subscription is the only way to save the platform or he should gut the whole thing.
The video files should be done through like BitTorrent or decentralization.
I'll tell you, you look at Parler, Gab, Mastodon, they're certainly not spending four million dollars a day to operate.
Elon could grind the whole company down to a skeleton crew and make it a bare-bones text communication platform.
Video and photo can be hosted on other platforms.
He can do a partnership with Rumble.
That'll cut his costs way down.
There you go.
Elon, take your company.
unidentified
I mean, that was pretty on point.
luke rudkowski
Are you on the platform of porn and how do you like it so far?
corin nemec
Well, I tell you what, you know, when it first started I was having a lot of fun because there was just so many ridiculous, you know, stupid cat memes and all kinds of fun stuff.
I mean, I was having a gas, just clowning.
That's pretty much what I do now on my side.
I try not to take it too seriously because it's just It could get too heavy.
Life is so heavy as it is with everything that's going on.
amanda milius
It's not for serious things.
corin nemec
So that's what I attempt to do.
Even if I'm making political comments, I try to do it in an offhanded sort of way that hopefully brings some kind of sense of humor to it rather than just like always just being dark about everything.
unidentified
I hear you.
amanda milius
yeah the person i am on twitter i i believe or i hope is not the person i am
in real life like i tried to explain to people like how to get twitter account
or whatever not like i have some great twitter account but it's like
i i my way of saying it is uh...
the worst parts of my personality i save for twitter i'm actually a nice person
So people meet me in real life and they're like, Oh, like you're actually like really nice and like not like, like, because on Twitter, all I do is shred people, but I shred people on my side.
That's the thing.
If we're going to play sides here politically, I shred people on the political right who are lying to people.
I shred phonies.
That's my big thing, right?
Like the other day I went after AFPI.
luke rudkowski
There's a lot of phonies out there.
amanda milius
Yeah.
And so like, that's, that's where I kind of find my role because I don't work for anybody.
And so everybody works for somebody, right?
Like, everybody thinks they're going to come back into some magical administration or something like that.
I am the boss.
Like, what, am I going to fire myself?
So that's the one thing I can give is to be truthful.
tim pool
What I do on Twitter is I basically just tweet the exact opposite of things.
unidentified
That's awesome.
luke rudkowski
4D Trump chess today?
tim pool
Oh, no, I said 12th dimensional.
And then I said, Trump's level of chess playing is so advanced he surpassed M-Theory.
It's very esoteric. M-Theory is 11 dimensions, Trump's playing 12th dimensional chess.
But, uh, no, I can't say exactly what I tweet. Not on YouTube, but that's the point.
Is, I realize that if you tweet something that's factual based on factual news and a link to the news story,
the media will twist the context of what you said to make you look bad.
And they'll accuse you of things you didn't actually do.
So this election integrity project or whatever accused me of being one of the biggest spreaders of like election misinformation or something, which is totally False, because I use NewsGuard, which is this, like, you know, they do a partnership with Microsoft for funding, and they fact-check.
And so all the stories I'm putting out are just basic, you know.
So then I realized, okay, all we gotta do is share the story and say the opposite, and then I win, because now they can't accuse me.
So I'll, like, if I see a story that is shocking to the narrative, that, you know, Biden commits X crime, I'll say, this is clearly false, Biden would never do something like this.
You are all crazy conspiracy theorists.
That's how I operate on Twitter.
But some of the tweets are real, so you never know.
That's awesome.
That way, if you're a journalist, you just have to ask me for a comment to figure out which one's actually how I feel, or not.
unidentified
There you go.
luke rudkowski
I'm just there for the memes.
amanda milius
That's not bad.
unidentified
Do you know what I'm saying?
luke rudkowski
The memes are, I think, a lifeline to free civilization that could actually save us during these very difficult times.
corin nemec
They always have been.
Oh, the Hammer thing has brought up some memes that have just been... Oh God, no.
unidentified
No.
corin nemec
They've been just so funny.
amanda milius
Dude, I had to do Gutfeld the night that that came out.
corin nemec
The hammer wrestling match.
luke rudkowski
Oh, yes.
The pink hammers that you insert batteries into.
Family-friendly show here, I apologize here, but it's not just Twitter having difficulties here.
The corporate media is now reporting that Twitter was only able to get about a half a million dollars from Twitter Blue itself.
That's some of the reports that I haven't seen.
tim pool
Half a million?
luke rudkowski
only half a million dollars was able to be made off of twitter blue according to
unidentified
some corporate media like a day and how long has it been allowed i mean it's
been out for a day in total that's that's what's been a day one week that's
ian crossland
half a million for the whole month
tim pool
and they're trying to pause it they paused it till wednesday so it's like
ian crossland
literally been two days yeah well you're saying still you're saying they paid eight
dollars Everyone's paying for a 30-day thing.
They've made half a million dollars in 30-day subscriptions, but they need $4 million a day?
unidentified
Yes.
ian crossland
So they need 30, what's that, 120 million a month?
tim pool
Slow down, slow down.
It's been, like, two days.
They paused it until Wednesday.
They kicked it open.
If they made half a million dollars within, so it was like, I think it was Tuesday, I was able to, no, no, no, it wasn't, it was Wednesday.
They paused it for the midterms, and then Wednesday it went live, and then it was shut down late last night or early in the morning, so it was barely up for two days, and he made half a million in subscriptions.
They're gonna get that same half a million again next month, but, fair point, they need four million per day.
luke rudkowski
I mean, when you're running a company with thousands of employees, he already fired, what was it, close to half of them?
amanda milius
Keep going.
unidentified
And that makes me want him to be president, too.
amanda milius
When he said that, remember when he was like, and they were saying it was gut-wrenching, lack of emotion, he just fired all these people, and it was Geraldo Rivera, and I was like, so what you're saying is he should also be in charge of personnel at the White House.
luke rudkowski
Well, thank you.
Finally, someone who would have the chutzpah and the balls to actually do something, unlike someone else.
But again, that's another topic.
Don't want to go down that road.
But the corporate media was gaslighting that all the Twitter employees that were going to be fired were going to go to Facebook.
Facebook was going to steal all of these great employees up.
Literally, that's what they were saying.
That's how much they were gaslighting people.
Go for it.
Facebook is firing 11,000 employees.
They lost nearly $200 billion in just one afternoon.
I don't think that's going to be happening anytime soon.
And there is something happening in the online digital space that has advertisers pulling away from Twitter even before Elon Musk bought it, which is another perspective that people should understand here.
ian crossland
I don't think centralized social media should be used for profit anyway.
uh...
you know not that i have a lot of you coming at things like making a road
amanda milius
service and i can make money off the and my and then me and my little percy
complaints which is no i want to put video clips on i want to put this on i
want to do that because you have that
rumble my love rumble but rumble hands
from What problems?
tim pool
You mean technical problems?
amanda milius
Well they owe me millions of dollars to start with because they've put ripped copies of my movie up like every single day even though I know the CEO, I know the acquisitions guy, I know every single person over there and they can't get the YouTube algorithm where you give YouTube an imprint of your content and there can be no bootlegged versions.
tim pool
And so it's like, you know, every week... Or it just claims the money for you or something, or a lot.
amanda milius
Right, exactly.
And so, well, we're on YouTube, like we're on Google Play, so it doesn't do that.
But, and isn't that funny how actually the only once we were on YouTube, meaning we were helping YouTube make money, did they do that for us.
For the rest of the time we had to do every single link had to be an actual takedown.
But then, and the best part is these people would put it up and they'd be like, Some a-hole named Amanda Milius is trying to take down Plot Against the President.
She's probably a leftist trying to keep us from the truth.
And I'm like, have you watched the credits?
It's my movie.
I'm taking it down because it costs money to make.
unidentified
And they're like, if this is so important, you should just put it out for free.
amanda milius
And you're like, right.
That's right.
Let's not build an industry.
Let's just make subpar art and just put it out for free.
That'll really take down Hollywood.
That'll work.
Our people are so stupid, sometimes it drives me nuts.
tim pool
They said the same thing to Matt Walsh over What Is A Woman.
amanda milius
Oh for sure, I'm sure they did.
tim pool
You need to release it for free.
And you're like, why?
We're trying to compete here.
amanda milius
Make an industry.
Now listen, I get into it with Daily Wire, like all the time.
Like I get into it with Jeremy, I get into it with Ben, I get into it... We've known each other since back in LA.
I almost feel like it's, to me, I don't take it too personally.
I'm just like, we're kind of like, you know, rolling around like it's fine.
I supported Matt Walsh's, that movie quite a bit because that was a very
important movie and I thought it was well, you know, that was something I
liked that they did when I don't like something, I say it when I don't like
something Dinesh does, I say it when I don't like something like, you know,
Steven Spielberg does, I say it because I went to film school.
I like criticizing movies.
That's what I do.
Like, it's not a big deal.
It's only they take it so personally that they're just like, oh my God.
But yeah, even on stuff like that, like I understand why they have that subscription model and why you just described the Twitter subscription model in such a way.
I mean, it really is one of these things where once you let in advertisers, you're letting in a censor board.
Advertising is a censorship board.
tim pool
This is why we started pushing TimCast.com, trying to build memberships to the website.
amanda milius
That's why InfoWars only survives the way it does, and they're even going to go after him.
tim pool
This is the crazy thing because I get hit up all the time by big networks being like, we should do a deal.
And we're going to give you... But this is funny because these people, and these are big networks, they seem to think I'm an idiot.
And they're like, why don't you do a deal with us and we're going to pay you eight figures.
We're going to pay you all of this money.
And I'm like, oh yeah, okay, I know what you're saying.
What you're saying is you want me to read ads five times per show, and then you'll make eight figures, take a cut off the top, and then give me...
We don't do ads here on purpose because we don't want advertisers to do contracts with us and then come back and be like, you know, that last episode you did, we're not sure, you know, and then, oh no, oh no, we're gonna, no, no, no.
We do a handful of ads per month.
We do like six.
And I'm like, hey, if you want to advertise with us, this is the show you get.
We had Milo Yiannopoulos the other day.
You got a problem with it?
Don't run ads on our show.
amanda milius
That's how you have to be.
tim pool
But they, I know that if I sign one of these deals with any one of these networks, they would have said something like, You know, we don't think you should have Milo on because the current advertisers, that's exactly how it plays out.
Become a member at TimCast.com.
amanda milius
I mean, you're totally right about that.
I mean, that's the reason that, like, I'm, you know, you asked me a moment ago, what's, you know, have you worked on a movie since Plot Against the President?
Answer is, no, I'm building a company.
The reason I'm building this company is because I need a place where the conservative Documentary and, you know, I'm working on a couple of scripteds, but that's just my thing, where the conservative world that's going to do documentaries that would normally just crowdfund them and just put them out on YouTube or put them out for free on whatever, that's their only way of getting around the censorship is to not make money.
But that's not an industry.
We're not going to beat Hollywood without being an industry, which is why even when I tussle with Daily Wire, Or I tussle with Dinesh D'Souza, who uses my movie as a search engine thing for his movie that did not as well.
All of that.
That's fine.
I get it.
I'm sorry.
There's competition.
I would hate me too if I was him.
But the fact is that you're not going to beat anything.
You're not going to create this free speech world if you don't have a competitive industry.
It is about the money.
tim pool
We need to be able to tell High-level artists, creatives.
amanda milius
We're going to pay you?
Exactly.
And we're going to pay the investors.
We're not.
tim pool
when they're working at these companies and they're told by their bosses they
have to say woke stuff they can say no they can come here because I can go work for
amanda milius
anyone else right and I can offer those people jobs and I don't have to and I
can pay my investors and that's the great thing is that it's like like why
would the and then you're talking these investors and a lot of my investors are
Republican donors I'm gonna be That I can say.
And you're like, OK, cool.
So you're going to light your money on fire four times, or every four years, every two years.
And I get it.
It's a tax write-off, or it's a this or that, or you're just ideological, or whatever it is.
But I'm not asking you to donate.
You're investing in something where I am one of three companies that make something for the entire United States.
Tell me about, like, how is that not, like, the greatest deal ever?
luke rudkowski
Well, more importantly, people need to understand that voting with your dollar is sometimes more important than just actually voting.
Where you put your attention, where you click, what you watch absolutely matters, but you also have to put the money where your mouth is.
And again, I used to rely on YouTube ads, and they used to limit my ads, and then they fully cut me off from the monetization program.
tim pool
You were the first.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, I was literally, I was like, what the hell's going on here?
This doesn't really make sense here.
We were the first ones to get hit with this.
tim pool
Let me put this into context for everybody.
Luke, you've been on YouTube since, like, YouTube started, basically.
luke rudkowski
14, 15, 16 years.
tim pool
There didn't used to be demonetization.
luke rudkowski
Nope.
tim pool
There was, you had ads turned on or ads turned off.
And I believe that We Are Change was the first channel, because they would manually go in and turn the ads off on your channel.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, without any notification, without any email.
I was like, what's going on here?
And then no one knew what was going on.
No one would get back to me.
We snuck into a major YouTube party.
Talked to the head of monetization.
I don't know, do you remember that one?
When we snuck in with Casey Neistat?
And I was there with the head of YouTube monetization.
She's like, I'm so sorry, I don't know what's happening here.
We're gonna figure this out for you.
Don't worry, Luke, we'll get back to you.
They never got back to me.
tim pool
They were mad that we were in there.
Uh-oh, how did they get in?
What do we do?
Do we kick them out?
luke rudkowski
Yeah, we literally snuck in there.
It was hilarious.
It was awesome.
It was a lot of fun.
One of my own personal memories.
But I just wanted to say, after they demonetized me, I was like, screw it.
I'm going to start a t-shirt company.
You can't censor t-shirts in the real life.
I started my own members area.
You can't do that.
And it's only because of user support that you're able to do what you're doing.
that you're able to do what you're doing, and I'm able to do what I'm doing.
tim pool
That's true.
I want to explain to people how easy it is to...
So, uh, we went... I can't remember where, was it VidCon or something?
Yep.
luke rudkowski
I don't know.
Yeah, no, VidCon in, uh, California.
tim pool
And so, we both knew people at YouTube.
I knew a lot of people because I had consulted for Google and YouTube on live streaming technology and mobile stuff.
And so, when we go up to where this party is, I'm like, let's see what happens.
I see someone I know from, from YouTube and they're like, sorry, it's like, there's already a list.
We can't let people in.
And I was like, I was like, come on.
I was like, we're here.
You know who I am?
And they were like, we just can't cause like this capacity.
I was like, okay.
luke rudkowski
There's a super exclusive VIP party with a big list, security guards everywhere, no one else is getting in no
matter what.
tim pool
So Luke and I walk around the perimeter basically just like taking a look at things, trying to, because that's what you
do, like figure out what's going on.
And then we walk up to the entrance and then we waited there and then we saw Casey Neistat walking in with his entourage.
And then we just squeezed as close as possible to Casey Neistat.
And then he started yelling about how they stopped him, and they were like, your friend can't come in.
He's like, what are you talking about?
He's a big YouTuber.
And then I'm like, yeah!
And Luke is like, what do you mean?
And then finally, they're like, OK, Casey, we're so sorry.
You can bring your people in.
He's like, all right.
And then we walked on in.
And then we didn't have any wristbands or anything.
And then we were like, oh, we need a wristband.
We didn't get one.
They went, oh, I'm sorry.
And they get a wristband.
Is that easy?
amanda milius
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
If you're meant to be there, you will be there.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, if you're persistent enough, you can get anything in life.
But again, if you just follow the old model, if you follow the old models and you don't innovate, you don't create your own members area, you don't create merchandise, you don't kind of think of ideas out of the norm, you won't make it in this business because this business is shutting down the door to anyone that dares to question any kind of reality.
amanda milius
Yeah, so you just have to stay one step ahead.
But again, you gotta Give the credit to AJ on having done that back before any of us, I mean at least, I don't know about y'all.
tim pool
He was doing this before social media existed.
amanda milius
That's what I'm saying, and it's like, and I remember that episode to this day will always be etched in my mind, that episode he did when Matt Drudge showed up out of nowhere And did that episode and he said, start your own websites.
Always have your own form of income.
Do not let them put you in their little internet gulags.
That's what they're going to try to do.
And this was Matt Drudge before whatever happened to Matt Drudge, where he sold the site, or I don't know.
I don't know what happened to Matt Drudge.
But the point is, is like this, this was this episode, it was in like 20, I don't know.
I was in film school, so it must have been 2014.
luke rudkowski
It was 2008.
I was warning in 2008 that there's going to be censorship coming on this platform.
unidentified
So was Alex Jones.
amanda milius
But it was about exactly what you guys were talking about, where it was like you have to stay ahead of the curve, innovate, sell other products.
Have your own website.
Have your own member site.
Have your own this that they can't control.
Do not depend on YouTube.
Do not depend always on just Twitter, whatever social media of the day was popular at that time.
Instagram, blah, blah, blah.
luke rudkowski
You can't expect the establishment to finance its own demise.
amanda milius
Exactly.
luke rudkowski
And they won't ever do it.
ian crossland
You know who a good example of that is?
luke rudkowski
I just wanted to include Corrin in this conversation and ask him how the industry has changed as far as monetization, as far as money.
Have you noticed anything in the industry?
corin nemec
Yeah, I was thinking about that almost the whole time that you guys were talking about it because there is a shift that hasn't happened yet and I'm not sure if they really know how to make it happen because the box that you're in, in the traditional way of doing distribution, That really comes with a lot of control mechanisms like you were just talking about.
There are certain parameters that you have to meet creatively.
That's why you can't do it.
That's why you have to say no.
But then where are you going to take your film, your original content, and market it to get the same type of monetization potential as you would get in Hollywood?
amanda milius
single platform. You take it, that's the thing, it's just how you do the deals. This is what,
that's the, that is the one thing I broke on Plot Against the President. That is the reason Amazon
will not take documentaries anymore. But you never make an exclusive deal.
corin nemec
It's a different beast than scripted content and stuff like that, especially when you're dealing
with all the genre-specific issues and stuff like that. But really it's about platforming.
At the end of the day, there isn't right now, currently, that I have found a really strong distribution platform with direct monetization for the films where you're actually getting a percentage of that ad revenue right away, per view, as it goes.
amanda milius
Yeah, every person who's doing it is a grifter!
Every single person that I have met with, that I have sat with, that was like, we have a platform and it's going to be for all the people that are, you know, dissident culture and it's going to be about not censorship and it's this and it's that.
It's some guy who literally is taking somebody's money and running.
I have not, I have one avenue that I think has done this properly and it's Rockfin.
Rockfin has a very good backend that's trustworthy and is actually, I believe, what they're telling me.
As somebody who has a film that is the number one documentary to this day on Amazon, on all the different weird platforms, right?
Because I want to try all of them.
Cause I was like, I got it.
Cause eventually they're going to come for me.
They're not going to let me put something out.
I got to know what's the next big platform.
You're completely right.
And I've been saying this for three years.
I've been saying this at every time I speak at, uh, at, at, at certain organizations that invite me to come speak regarding platforms.
I say this every single time you build me the platform, I will give you the content.
I make content.
I don't make platforms.
luke rudkowski
Where do you see this going?
corin nemec
Well, I mean, what I do see that's working, interestingly enough, with Run Hyde Fight, with Daily Wire and all that, is that I think that there's an opportunity for people who already have built out platforms to use those platforms themselves as a distribution outlet for scripted content.
amanda milius
Yeah, but then like five people see it.
corin nemec
No, no, that's not true.
You're talking about people who have millions of people, millions of followers on their platform.
And the reach that that can go to from there, I think that that's one option, because otherwise it goes back to a corporate, you know, a corporate style eventually anyway, when you have, you know, platforms that are controlled by corporate interests.
tim pool
We got breaking news!
We got breaking news!
In Nevada, Steve Sisolak has conceded to Joe Lombardo in the Nevada's governor race.
amanda milius
Oh my God!
tim pool
This is a flip!
unidentified
Yes!
tim pool
The state of Nevada has just flipped to a Republican governor from a Democrat.
amanda milius
It's been four years in Nevada.
Thank you, Jesus.
tim pool
You live in Nevada?
unidentified
No, I've worked on every campaign in Nevada that exists.
Right on.
I've been- that's how I started my political- that is so- So how do you really feel about that?
I am so excited right now.
amanda milius
That is the best time- okay, you guys are just like, I am so- that guy sucks so bad.
I am so happy that Nevada is going red.
Bet on red, guys.
Bet on red.
ian crossland
Do you want to talk about this a little bit?
I want to talk about this platform thing because I have an idea.
tim pool
So, well, let's... Well, how's Laxalt?
amanda milius
Where are Laxalt's numbers at?
tim pool
Laxalt's not looking good.
It's tightening up.
So, in Nevada, Adam Laxalt is... Where are we at?
Yeah, but wasn't...
It's down to... He's up by less than a thousand votes, like 700, 800 votes.
Yeah, but the votes that are coming in are... Are continually skewing Democrat.
He was up by a lot more, and it's getting tighter and tighter and tighter.
So they're actually... I was reading... He may call for a recount or file.
He absolutely should.
unidentified
100%.
tim pool
Same thing with Carrie Lake.
Do not stop.
Fight it until finally they just say, get out of the courtroom.
amanda milius
Especially in Nevada.
So last election, I did all, I was the last person to leave.
I was the last one on the last plane out of Nevada that didn't live there, right, that worked the election.
Not the RNC people who were totally corrupt, took the money and ran the next day.
But Nevada is a place where I would always do a recount.
Always.
unidentified
And the thing is, it's like, it's not even possible though, because it's like, And I also want to add that Lauren Boebert is winning.
amanda milius
I'm not going to say.
tim pool
I think Lauren Boebert's basically won at this point.
Lauren Boebert's up about 1,000, just over 1,000 votes in Colorado's third with 99% in, so she probably won.
unidentified
I hope.
amanda milius
I mean, you would think.
unidentified
She's so popular, like, to her people.
tim pool
Well, but mail-in voting makes it.
amanda milius
Yeah, again, again.
unidentified
100%.
tim pool
Yeah, Democrats get people who don't know what's going on to vote.
amanda milius
And their kids.
tim pool
Whereas Republicans rely on people to actively get up and go vote.
amanda milius
And feel something.
tim pool
Super difficult.
amanda milius
And that's why what you just said actually really matters.
And I get in arguments with people about this all the time where they're like, oh, who cares about the culture?
I don't want to talk about the culture war.
I just want to talk about we got to talk about like the votes and the elections.
How are you meaning to create the kind of candidates and the kind of citizens that want to get up and vote and vote for the type of candidates that we need to have if you don't have the culture element?
That's why it matters so much.
I'm not saying one's more important than the other.
Obviously, I'm partial to culture because that's what I do.
But I also do politics.
So it's like, yeah, without educating your country, you're not going to get the outcomes that you want.
ian crossland
Yeah, I think you need the technological element too.
And to piggyback off this conversation about platforming and how distribution, the future of, you know, content distribution, I think the biggest problem, one of the biggest problems with content distribution is piracy, internet piracy, where someone will take your content and repost it somewhere.
So if you could somehow have content so that there's tags in it or something that every time it's reposted somewhere else, It's still tracked back to the creator, and you actually encourage sites to pirate content and sell it, and you get 98% of the sale.
The site that sells it for you gets 2%, and then everyone's gonna be selling your art.
They're gonna have websites of people selling tens of thousands of movies for you.
amanda milius
That's not dumb.
That is a smart way of doing things, and that is something that we need to look at, because it's not that I'm against... I mean, look, I grew up...
Not paying for music.
I grew up not paying for all the movies I've seen.
Okay, I get it.
I get it.
But the problem is I have investors.
I have people that I made a promise to a fiduciary duty.
You can't just let this stuff out for free.
ian crossland
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
amanda milius
But I don't know if you can technically... Or you make terrible movies that go up on YouTube that are like, you know, just... What are you doing, Luke?
unidentified
Made out of crap.
ian crossland
I agree.
amanda milius
I think that tracking... I didn't say a bad word.
I said crap.
ian crossland
I'm doodling pictures of chicks.
Tracking the money is key.
And if you could somehow meta-tag the content itself, like the movie, and then just allow... Because piracy is going to happen.
We can't stop it.
amanda milius
The crazy thing, Tim, is I'm not even... I'm just drinking coffee.
tim pool
That's probably it.
amanda milius
You don't have an excuse.
tim pool
It's the coffee.
unidentified
You don't have an excuse tonight.
luke rudkowski
What's in that coffee?
amanda milius
You try it.
It's nice.
It's just black.
tim pool
Caffeine?
luke rudkowski
I don't want to.
tim pool
It's too late.
I'm drawing a picture.
luke rudkowski
I won't be able to sleep.
tim pool
I'm drawing a picture of Bocas.
amanda milius
Somebody's got to drive me home.
corin nemec
Yeah, but going back, I mean, I think another big issue that we run into is the marketing dollars.
How do you get, you know, how do you get the attention that you need in order to drive traffic to whatever platform you're on?
amanda milius
Make something interesting?
corin nemec
You know, well, I mean, sure.
amanda milius
Sorry, that's the Daily Wire speaking problem.
corin nemec
No, no.
amanda milius
Westerns for conservatives?
Are you kidding me?
corin nemec
I think almost all Westerns were made for conservatives.
amanda milius
That's what I mean.
corin nemec
But that said, you know, I just think that they... Surely they can improve on the genre.
amanda milius
I mean, definitely.
corin nemec
I just did one.
I just wrote one based on a graphic novel that we just shot in New Mexico with Stephen Dorff and Cole Hauser starring in Jack Kilmer called Dead Man's Hand.
It's based on the same company that I gave you that comic book, Rotten Tail.
Source Point Press did a graphic novel, a Western, Dead Man's Hand, that we just finished shooting.
A couple weeks ago, actually.
tim pool
Have you experienced the wokeness?
I mean, I know earlier there was talk about the pedophilia, but there's also the wokeness in the industry, which is also a big issue.
corin nemec
You know, I mean, for me, I've been on my own path in the industry since day one, really.
Growing up in the industry, I was a graffiti artist before I was an actor, and I kept hanging with all my buddies that I grew up doing graffiti art with.
What was your handle?
My first one was Chrome, K-R-O-M-E.
I got caught in 10th grade because me and my buddy Dapper were tagging high schools and junior highs on Sunday nights so that everybody would see our get-ups on Monday morning.
It was a great way to get up.
And then I switched over to Pyke, which is something that I still use.
I still paint to this very day.
Were you in L.A.?
Yeah, I grew up in Los Angeles.
amanda milius
Where'd you go to high school?
corin nemec
North Hollywood High.
amanda milius
Were you there too, Amanda?
luke rudkowski
That's one way to get motivated to go to school.
The indoctrination centers that they call schools.
corin nemec
Oh man, at North Hollywood High, back in the 80s, they used to put chains around the doors once school started in the morning and lock you in from the outside.
And we had barbed wire fences 12 foot high all the way.
It was like going to prison every day for five, six hours.
ian crossland
But it was safe?
It was predominantly safe?
corin nemec
No, man.
People got knifed, shot, beaten with poles.
I saw a guy's shoulder get collapsed in the quad.
We had full-blown riots.
It was insane, man.
It was absolutely insane going in the 80s.
The gang wars of the 80s and everything else.
It was a wild time, no doubt.
amanda milius
Dude, make a movie about that.
I want to see that!
luke rudkowski
They did a couple times.
I went to school in the 90s in New York City, and again, metal detectors when you walk in, craziness that you can't even imagine, you can't even describe.
corin nemec
We had LAPD, or they still do, I'm sure, but in the 80s we had LAPD on campus, so you had like, principal, assistant to principal, dean, assistant to dean, LAPD.
We had two armed police officers on campus every day, we had a cop that drove around campus all day long, and still people got shot and stabbed and beaten and everything else.
It was great times.
tim pool
Chicago, you're just walking down the street and people start shooting at each other.
corin nemec
Yeah. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
Sometimes it's because the gangs will be like, just kill that person to prove you're wrong.
corin nemec
Yeah, that was going on in the 80s too.
tim pool
A lot of assassinations though, they'll say like, this guy they target, you know.
corin nemec
Yeah.
Yeah.
ian crossland
Well, I guess we can move on topics, but just to cap off this talk about distribution models,
you were saying that marketing money, you said that the key is...
corin nemec
Well, I mean, it's about driving traffic.
How do you get the eyeballs on some content that you're trying to independently platform without a big distribution or major film company behind you or backing you?
There is a model to be able to do it, but where is it going to be platformed?
That's the thing.
And how do you get the money directly?
So, you know, are you charging per view on the platform?
People go in?
What is it?
It's not there yet.
It doesn't exist yet, you know?
So I am interested in the future of platforming, of original content, but right now I have to go with the old model.
I mean, I'm doing Lifetime movies for Lifetime Channel, writing and producing them,
and they're very specific, genre-oriented.
They're sold there, they're sold to TF1 in France, they're guaranteed certain sales and all of that,
so the profit margin is locked in for the investors.
And if one of them escapes and does better than it's expected to, great.
But the protection for the investor and for everybody else involved creatively
is doing these specifically genre films.
That are guaranteed a certain sale on the front end.
Because a lot of distribution companies, they promise you a back end that you never get.
amanda milius
See, I don't want to live like that, though.
See, that's the thing.
You're right.
You are correct.
That is the model.
That's the tried and true model that they taught us at school that's been going on since forever.
But I think I Had a win doing it my way.
corin nemec
Absolutely.
amanda milius
And I want to keep pushing that envelope because I can't like announce what the idea is for the next thing because then it won't work, right?
Because I just told everybody what it was.
But I think I can break the machine.
unidentified
Yeah.
amanda milius
And I want to break the machine because you shouldn't have to do that.
You shouldn't have to be like stuck in this.
I know exactly what you're talking about.
I just did Cam this year for the first time.
Yeah. And it was the most like depressing, gross experience of like walking around
and every single country made the same six movies.
Yeah. And like you're like, this is not like the home of cinema, not to mention
like like the obsession with the Ukraine, where you would think that like the
Ukrainian film had been like the cornerstone of European cinema for 100 years.
It was so bananas.
But yeah, I like I think I'm in a position that I can smash that.
And I don't disagree with you.
What you're describing is the model.
And I just don't want to live like that.
corin nemec
There's a way to break the mold.
There's a way to break the mold.
I think it's easier with documentaries, though, too.
I'm going to go broke doing it.
Because documentaries have a different shelf life than when you're marketing.
But what we're doing, we're not doing just docs, though.
amanda milius
I mean, that's the thing.
We have literally half the company's docs, half the company's scripted.
Yeah.
Yeah.
corin nemec
I just mean in the grassroots, you know, putting it out there and getting it on this platform and then you find another platform and then another one and another one.
amanda milius
I think I fixed the PR element.
I'll tell you what it is after the show.
unidentified
Okay, cool.
corin nemec
I look forward to it.
amanda milius
You got to get me into that Mason, that big thing near my place.
luke rudkowski
I think women are not allowed into Some lodges.
I think there's all-female lodges and all-female organizations.
amanda milius
No, you can go look at it.
They have tours.
corin nemec
You just can't go up very high.
luke rudkowski
They have George Washington's kind of Freemasonic site.
corin nemec
So which is it?
amanda milius
Do the Jews run everything or is it the Masons?
Because the Masons don't let you in if you're Jewish.
corin nemec
No, that's not true.
tim pool
This is from Battlestar Galactica.
unidentified
So you're telling me you guys know you guys know what ship this is this ship
tim pool
Do you know what the ship is no from Battlestar Galactica?
It looks like a Kestrel. I don't know I don't know exactly what it is
It was a gift, but have any of you seen Lord of the Flies?
Have any of you have any of you read or seen Lord of the Flies?
No, okay. This is the conch shell. You can only talk if you're holding it. I like it.
luke rudkowski
Oh, this is the conch shell. Bring order to chaos.
amanda milius
Are you having a panic right now?
tim pool
Are you having a bit of a panic?
No, but I think the the viewers are starting to complain a whole lot
So how about you hold the spaceship and you can start talking about your ideas?
corin nemec
Uh, well this I mean you said Lord of the Flies I just have to give a shout to Balls Argetty then because
that's one of my old My we me and him were best friends growing up together, and
that was his first film He did a great job as, you know, as the lead in that.
This is fantastic, you know, I'm distracted.
I love models.
I love miniatures and stuff.
So this is just... I could look at this all day.
Yeah, I'm all about it.
Now I forgot what we were talking about.
tim pool
Oh, I don't know.
ian crossland
Should we talk about something?
unidentified
Let's talk about stuff.
Masons.
corin nemec
Whatever you guys want.
luke rudkowski
So the Mason conversation is pretty interesting.
tim pool
Let's talk about that.
What's going on with that Mason stuff?
corin nemec
Well, for me, I mean, you know, I've been interested in kind of the conspiracy theories and stuff like that since I was a teenager.
And when I found out that, you know, Freemasons were the Illuminati and all of this, I was like, wait a second, my grandfather and great-grandfather were both masons and they sure as hell weren't.
Involved in any kind of weird racket like that.
So I got more interested in the philosophical side of it and reading some Masonic books and literature and came to realize that it's more of a principled, philosophical way of thinking and applying analogies, you could say construction analogies to life,
really.
So I got interested in it from that aspect, and then when I got into my 20s, joined a
lodge in San Antonio, Perfect Union Lodge No. 10 around 1997, and did my three primary
degrees up through the year 2000.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, Freemasonry is, a lot of people call it a secret society.
So, obviously, you can't talk about some of the secrets.
So, what are some of the secrets?
corin nemec
Yeah, you can talk about anything like that.
The only thing you can't discuss are just the actual initiation rites and the dialogue that's used in the initiation.
luke rudkowski
Were you able to meet any kind of, like, prominent people through it?
corin nemec
I've been to the Grand Lodge in London a number of times, to the tea room there, and there's definitely some pretty interesting folks that were hanging around there.
But overall, my interest in it is purely philosophical and fraternal.
I really enjoy traveling the world and going to other lodges and meeting other brothers who have the same kind of philosophic mindset and curiosity.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, I know like Shaquille O'Neal is also like a Freemason.
There's a lot of other prominent people that are also Freemasons.
corin nemec
Yeah, Prince Hall Lodges are huge.
They're very, very active.
I'm pretty sure that I'm correct that he's in Prince Hall Lodge, which I have a number of good friends that are And is it true that they all go back to the ideology?
luke rudkowski
Who was it who invented Freemasonry in the United States?
Was it Albert Pike?
corin nemec
No, Albert Pike introduced Scottish Rite Freemasonry after the Civil War, which I'm really not into.
I think that's more of the side that sort of is where the Illuministic side kind of comes from.
And to me, I think they sponge off the Blue Lodge by this thing of offering more light you know, so oh, there's 33 degrees or 32 degrees with the
33rd being a bestowed degree, a bestowed degree, but you know, they keep offering more
light, more degrees, more this, and there's just nothing to it. It's, you know, the three
primary degrees are the most sublime, and that's where you're going to get your, you know, your
aha moment.
ian crossland
What's a degree?
corin nemec
That's, those are the three, the three initiations that you go through in Blue Lodge,
Interdeprentist, Fellowcraft, and Master Mason, and each one has kind of a different, a different
series of working tools that they're based on, and also you're going kind of through a death
and resurrection, you know, a death and resurrection, you know, a death and resurrection,
Do you do the degrees like classes?
ideology like where you're letting go of your old self and opening up to the possibility
of being able to recreate a whole new life for yourself as a new person based on, you
know, from the ground up.
Meaning you can let go of everything that you've known from the past, have a clean slate,
and then recreate yourself from that point forward.
ian crossland
Do you do the degrees like classes?
Do you take classes or is it just like work?
corin nemec
You have to have a mentor because there's no way you can do the degree work alone because
you work with somebody else in the actual initiation.
It's a Q&A, back and forth, basically.
luke rudkowski
Do you have to read a lot of books, and then you have to go through a specific ritual to get to the next level, and then sometimes the ritual is like a test, and sometimes you pass the test, and sometimes you don't?
corin nemec
Yes, and that has to do with the whole Q&A thing.
There is a performative value to it and what you learn from what you memorize and how you respond.
And if you don't have all of this stuff down to a T, then you won't get passed on to the next degree.
You'll have to repeat that again and again and again until you get it right.
And the more that you read and understand about it, then the better off you are, for sure.
amanda milius
Can I just ask one thing about it?
How does it comport with belief in God?
corin nemec
You have to have a belief in God to be a Mason, because the Bible is the light of Masonry.
But if you're a Muslim and you're a Mason, then it would be the Koran.
Or if you're a Jew and you're a Mason, then it would be the Old Testament versus the inclusion of the New Testament on it.
Or if you're Hindu, then it might be the Vedas.
amanda milius
Every single lodge would potentially have a different Absolutely not.
corin nemec
No, absolutely not.
No, no, no.
And I mean, I wouldn't say, I mean, in having read about the Kitharai and the Albigensians and all that, I wouldn't necessarily even say that Gnosticism has that as its fundamental belief either.
I think it has more to do with the enlightenment of the human soul and the raising of oneself to a higher experience of consciousness.
ian crossland
I've always found Gnosticism makes a lot of sense in that it just kind of stands for, like, the knowledge that you have is the Enlightenment.
Like, the process is the Enlightenment.
Is that blasphemous to people of churches to say that Gnosticism is awesome?
corin nemec
I mean, I don't know what you're... Well, it was to the Catholic Church, because the Crusades were against the Gnostics.
The Second Crusades were against the Gnostics, and they went and all throughout southern France and Spain and murdered them by the tens of thousands.
And traditionally, there's a through line of theory that ties Gnosticism to the original teachings of Christ and the original practices of the true Christians before Christianity was usurped by the Roman Catholic Church, which was previous to that, Mithraism.
a, you know, a pagan-type belief system, which pagan is not even a correct term for it.
unidentified
Until they got obsessed with the Jews and Jerusalem.
corin nemec
Well, Solomon pays a key factor.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, I was just going to say, I literally just wrote Solomon's Temple.
I was like, doesn't this go all the way back until the Knights of Templar, Solomon's Temple, and allegedly the secrets that they found there, and they used that kind of secrecy to allegedly fight against the Pope?
Right?
Am I correct?
Because I remember studying this like years and years and years ago.
corin nemec
Well, they said they found the treasure.
That was the theory is that the Knights Templar either found some old manuscripts or actual treasures or things like that that they then brought back to Europe.
And they were able to expand the Knights Templar as an order drastically because of this knowledge or whatever it was that they got a hold of, which is still a mystery to this day.
tim pool
I've played Assassin's Creed.
It was alien technology, wasn't it?
unidentified
Makes sense.
corin nemec
I haven't played Assassin's Creed, but I'm familiar with what you're talking about.
I love the movie.
tim pool
Yeah, I think I've seen, I don't know if I remember the movie, but in the first couple of games, it was the secret for, like, the progenitors of Earth, aliens, and, like, the apple was, like, some powerful object or something.
luke rudkowski
Well, what's really fascinating about it is that the symbols are everywhere.
the kind of, is it sacred geometry or is it just, because you look at architecture, you
look at corporate logos, you look at almost anything of prominence, you look at the landscape
of how Washington DC is built.
It's all built on Freemasonic kind of architecture.
Which is weird because it's a pentagram.
And also allegedly on like power lay lines as well.
corin nemec
Yes, that's true, but really all of that comes out of the tree of life, the Kabbalistic tree
of life and the pattern that it's made and all of the different symbols come out of that
when you, the Star of David.
amanda milius
That's an interpretation of the tree of life.
unidentified
But let him finish, because this is the fascinating stuff.
corin nemec
It's not an interpretation, it's the actual connection of all of the different, the connection
lines between the Sephirot.
You know, so you have the 10 Sephirot and you have all of the connection points between
And from all of those connection points, the symbolism comes out of it.
And that goes into the sacred geometry of fractaling and everything else.
So it's certainly, all of those symbols certainly do come out of the Tree of Life, but the Tree of Life itself comes out of an even more sublime symbol.
amanda milius
And doesn't it take it down to how the human body is constructed?
corin nemec
Absolutely, yeah.
The tree of life is laid right on top of the human body.
You can tie that in with the chakraic systems.
They're identical.
They've just split them.
On the tree of life, they've split several of them into dynamic polars, but when you combine them all together, it's the same seven to nine chakras that you generally find in a normal system.
luke rudkowski
Sounds like a lot of stuff that Ian's talking about.
You had him at fractals and the aligned chakras.
I saw Ian's eyes light up.
amanda milius
Like a little bit more traditionally.
You have to understand that it's not that I disagree with, obviously, I know nothing about the Masons compared to you, but I'm Jewish, right?
So I may not be as on board with my religious symbols being utilized in another Theologies, philosophies.
Well, I'm Jewish too, so... But I could say the same thing about, you know, things I've seen in evangelical churches.
It's like, you know what, I could whine about it all day long.
In fact, you could talk about the Old Testament and the New Testament.
corin nemec
But the point is, I'm happy it's not... We use Hebrew letters and all of that in Freemasonry.
amanda milius
When I first saw a Freemason book, I thought it was Hebrew.
corin nemec
Right.
luke rudkowski
Is it based off the Kabbalah or is it something different?
amanda milius
Well, it's involved.
corin nemec
It's involved.
It's involved because, I mean, that goes way back because you also have to think, you know, in the practicing of that type of magic, if the Knights Templar were involved in practicing Kabbalistic magic, that would be perceived as witchcraft and other types of things.
But Ignatius Loyola, the founder of the Illuminata in the 1500s, was practicing Kabbalah, and that's where the Illuminati comes from in Bavaria, by Adam Weishaupt, who was also a Jesuit priest, who was picking back up where Ignatius Loyola left off back in the 1500s.
luke rudkowski
That's how I feel every time we talk about movies or video games.
amanda milius
All I'm saying is it just gives me a little bit of the heebie-jeebies when you're trying to not have the whole world come kill you.
You know what I mean?
As a Jew, just in general, as does happen once every few hundred years or sometimes more often, where you're just like, Magic and this and that.
I'm just into God.
Old Testament, old school, just straight up God.
luke rudkowski
Would you say you guys are practicing magic?
corin nemec
Well, everybody is.
Everything is magical.
There's nothing around us that isn't magic.
Every time we're trying to explain something to somebody, as soon as they understand our communication to them, we've performed a spell, because now they're thinking with our information.
So there's nothing that we're not doing that isn't magical.
In essence, this table is magic.
It wasn't once a table.
It was a tree that was then brought down.
It was carved, changed, you know, cars.
A car is a magic item, you know what I mean?
It's been milled from the ground of taking ore and molten metal and crushing it and then shaping it and then putting it together and then suddenly you put a chemical into it and start it up and boom, it can drive.
That's magic.
I mean, we're surrounded by magic.
Everybody's practicing magic.
ian crossland
I love the metaphor of casting a spell and when you make words, you spell them.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
The word spell.
corin nemec
That's 100%.
That's where it comes from.
tim pool
What makes you want to become a mason?
What do you get from it?
Be it emotional, physical, or what?
corin nemec
Well, I mean, initially I did it because of my family, you know?
But once I realized, you know, that was what my attraction was to it.
But really what it is, is it's a system with which It's oddly complex but very simple at the same time.
It's allegories and symbols that once you understand them, they freeze in the mind and you can access them very easy.
It's a psychology, really.
It's kind of a psychology.
amanda milius
So why not publish it regularly and make it more accessible to the average person?
unidentified
It is.
corin nemec
There's loads of books all about it.
It's just nobody buys them.
Nobody's interested.
amanda milius
Masonry is open, it's just that we're not interested.
corin nemec
Yeah, the only thing that's closed about masonry is just the initiation process.
Everything else is wide open.
All the books are out there.
There's Freemasonic encyclopedia sets that you can get.
I mean, you name it, you can get it.
The only thing you can't get is access to the actual initiation ceremony unless you join. But at the
same time, you can even get that information out there now. There's books where they've
taken our code books and they've translated them and they've put them out there to the public. It's all
accessible.
amanda milius
So why is there so many connections between Masonic imagery and what we've come to learn
about satanic rituals and Luciferian stuff?
Is that just the same sort of thing as, like, you know, what I'm kind of arguing against, which is, like, you know, frequently, like, ah, the Jews ruin everything, blah, blah, blah.
Well, is that the same kind of misunderstanding?
No, it's the usurpation.
corin nemec
It's the usurpation of the symbolism by Illuminists.
amanda milius
Like the black and white floors and the two columns and the whole thing?
unidentified
No, no.
corin nemec
You're going to have opposing meanings for them by different groups.
For instance, Illuminism, Adam Weishaupt, their sole goal was to infiltrate and take over Freemasonry and introduce Illuminism into the rites and practices of Masons.
So, in essence, when you have the Golden Dawn, for instance, and other quasi-Masonic orders that come out of Masonry, they're taking the Masonic symbolism with them.
And they're thwarting it.
Yeah, and then they're turning it on its head.
So suddenly you're looking at the Golden Dawn going, oh, they're using the same eye in the pyramid, and they're using the same this and that, and oh, that's got to be Mason suit.
No, it's not.
It's not at all.
amanda milius
That's how I got introduced to that stuff.
That's why I get heebie-jeebie about it, is because when I was in college, I accidentally went to this totally bizarre communist college, and I just tried to avoid their protest classes, and I took a Yates class, and it was just Golden Dawn.
Like, just the whole time.
And I was just like, I didn't sign up for Satanism.
unidentified
Like, this is bizarre.
luke rudkowski
Most of the founding fathers were Freemasons.
corin nemec
Yeah, that's the Blue Lodge.
That's the standard three degrees.
That's the foundation that all the other Masonic sects are based on.
So even York Rite, which has, I believe, six degrees, you have to do the first three to go up those.
And same with Scottish Rite.
You can't get into Scottish Rite unless you've already done the Blue Lodge degrees.
So it's really the bedrock.
ian crossland
Was it just like a way of teaching and learning and knowing, like, if you're a mason and you know these things, I don't have to worry about you not understanding the world the way I view it?
You were saying there's a lot of, like, mechanical metaphors involved.
corin nemec
Yeah, I mean, for instance, the 24-inch gauge, which is obviously used in construction for measuring, you know.
You know, you use that to break up your time into three eight-hour segments.
One for work, one for rest, one for recreation.
You use the square and compasses, the compass to keep your desires within due circumference.
You use the square to square your actions.
You use the level to remain upright.
You know, all of these analogies you apply to the self and you are the mason and the edifice that you're building is in the mind.
This gets into Solomon's temple, is that in Freemasonry there's a strong belief that the first temple was never built, that it was only built in his imagination and that it was never actually built in physical reality.
So, you know, it's about the temple that we're building in our minds and then into reality.
unidentified
Let's jump into something else.
tim pool
Let's jump into the story we got from the Daily Mail.
This is crazy.
I saw this story.
unidentified
It was amazing.
amanda milius
Let's just rebuild the temple.
unidentified
We agree?
amanda milius
We're going to rebuild the temple?
corin nemec
Agreed.
amanda milius
Let's go.
tim pool
Let's talk about another story from the Daily Mail.
In this story, I was surprised to see it, Mexico uses footage of homeless people and drug addicts from Philadelphia in advertisements to scare young people away from substance abuse.
Awesome!
These images are saddening.
corin nemec
Now, did they bring the Philadelphians to Mexico to shoot this, or did they go on location to Philadelphia?
tim pool
I think they probably just pulled the videos from social media.
unidentified
From Kensington, probably.
tim pool
Yeah, they just... I mean, this is insane.
Can we play one of the videos?
corin nemec
Oh, it's insane.
It's just completely insane.
luke rudkowski
I think that's it right there.
unidentified
Yeah, you can just watch that right there.
luke rudkowski
Oh, wow.
There it is.
corin nemec
Hey, that's a nice production vibe.
amanda milius
Yeah, that girl's lovely.
unidentified
I mean, she's cute.
amanda milius
Oh, no.
She's on drugs in Philadelphia.
Hey, lunch in L.A.
unidentified
L.A.
amanda milius
street people.
Great account to follow.
unidentified
No destruyas tu vida.
El fentanilo mata.
No te arriesgues.
No vale la pena.
Yeah, go skateboarding.
Look at that.
tim pool
Wait, what is this?
amanda milius
This is what you should be doing, is what they're saying.
tim pool
You should be skateboarding.
amanda milius
You should be skateboarding, not doing drugs in Philadelphia.
And they're not wrong.
And Mexico is winning with that one.
corin nemec
Well, they don't have any drugs left in Mexico.
They're all in the United States!
amanda milius
But what's the point of selling them in Mexico when you can't charge 50 times for them than you can here filter the fentanyl from China through our open border and kill everybody here?
I mean that's what people don't understand is that China has a hundred year long memory, I mean a 250 year long memory and a hundred year long plan and they're still pissed about the opium wars and we don't understand that.
And everyone's like, why does China keep sending their fentanyl here and we don't do anything about it?
corin nemec
Well, they should be sending it to the UK.
I mean, we didn't have anything to do with that.
ian crossland
You know, I think they can't get into the UK because it's a small island.
They don't have a land border to move it across.
tim pool
But the thing about what's going on right now in the United States is that we had the economy completely destroyed.
I often was asking, where did everybody go?
How come we went to, we were in New Market, Virginia last weekend, and the restaurant had a big ol' white board that said, we are understaffed, please be patient.
Nobody wants to work anymore.
And then Ian, you actually hit the nail on the head with the hammer, I think.
When I started making the joke that people were raptured, you just said, I think they're homeless.
And then I was like, oh.
amanda milius
Oh my god.
tim pool
Yeah, actually, yeah.
While we're seeing employment collapse for lesser skilled and lower skilled jobs, we're seeing homelessness and drug abuse skyrocket.
There's probably a correlation right there.
ian crossland
And it's been happening quietly.
corin nemec
It's only quiet because they're ignoring it.
It's being completely ignored.
How often do you see any of this information?
amanda milius
But that's what they want.
luke rudkowski
In Mexico, some of the cartels have very strict rules where you can't give fentanyl to the local population.
You get punished.
There's retribution in the streets if you give out the drugs that are supposed to go up north if you give it out to the local population because they
know the devastation that it would cause the local population and how horrible it would be. This is also,
as of course, there's also a very mirrored history between a lot of the cartels and American
intelligence agencies that have been working together historically.
that have been shipping in things like crack cocaine and it wouldn't surprise
unidentified
well it was a little bit more formally shifted in a very well there are very
serious and i a top people had a very good idea of the old barry seals they
need a very small enough that that's important for instance that's how the
amanda milius
clinton's out of their way into a cia family because the people don't realize
is that the obama's in the bushes have much more in common than the clinton's
in the bushes the clinton's anyone else is that those are old-school cia families like in if you
want to make sorry mason reference their thirty-third whereas like the
clinton's are like nine like the clinton's are like down here elbowing their way up
into the higher level cia like thinking they're going to have a legacy they're
luke rudkowski
not and then there's a big history of me not Arkansas
amanda milius
That's what I'm saying.
Amina, Arkansas is what happens when... is what Clinton agreed to run in order to become president.
I mean, basically there's a lot of people that think that.
tim pool
This is a meme.
It says, breaking, Elon Musk has reportedly made an offer to buy the FBI from the Clintons.
amanda milius
That's a good one.
tim pool
I think it's like my most liked post too because it has 48,989 likes.
Just post more memes.
Whenever you post a meme, it's like I get tens of thousands of likes and I'll post something about my life and everyone's like, Tim, we don't care about you.
luke rudkowski
We're only there for the memes, man.
tim pool
I know, these are great.
This is a good one, though.
This was a good one.
So, yeah, I don't know, man.
When you look at what's happening with our elections, It's, you know, I think a lot of people are really angry.
Milo pointed out they wanted revenge.
They were hoping that this would be an absolute national rebuke of the Democrat failures.
Instead, we ran the same play.
We got a win, you know, that's it, in the House.
And it's not even confirmed just yet.
And I'm kind of just like, I don't know, I was thinking about what Michael Malice was saying with John Fetterman getting elected and how he wanted him in.
And I thought it was kind of funny.
So, you know, the more I think about it, This is a product of absolute collectivism, and I'm very much more on the side of individualism.
So my worst case scenario is we go anarcho-libertarian or whatever.
It's not my ideal circumstance.
I know the anarchists and libertarians are probably loving it.
If a system breaks down and collapses, they're gonna be living large.
But I can live with that.
I can deal with that if that's what happens.
That's really weird.
amanda milius
You and my dad are like those guys.
luke rudkowski
I'm that guy.
I'm like, this is music to my ears.
I love the sound of that.
Hell yeah, let's do it.
Let's bring Tehran to the United States.
amanda milius
I've learned to accept it and to learn to embrace the zen anarchism and to even try and understand what it is.
I have only now begun to thrive in the chaos kind of vibe, but it still is I have to say, at the end of the movie I made, it's sad.
I inherited this country.
It's the only thing I would die for if not my family.
I don't feel bad being genuine about this.
A lot of these people these days, after this election, there's a lot of, I won't mention who, but there's a lot of irony going around where it's like don't you know elections
are fake anyways like anybody who took this seriously is dumb and you're like no
actually i i really care about my country and i don't mind saying so like it's really important i
luke rudkowski
think what's also happening here in america with a lot of these drug overdoses is something
that has been adding to the larger political shift in this country because when you look at
the opioid epidemic it predominantly went after middle america
It went after people that weren't in the cities, people who trusted their doctors, got in a car accident, and their doctor said, hey, take legalized heroin.
That we're going to cut you off immediately.
And now, hey, now you got to go through Mexico.
Now you got to go through the cartels.
Now you got to go through your local drug dealers to get hooked.
And you criminalize it, and when you criminalize it, you create a situation where, of course, there is more harm, and more people are dying from bad drugs, more than ever.
More gang members are becoming more enriched, more than ever.
And it's a situation deliberately created, in my opinion, meant to devastate middle America.
And this has been seen as a result of eliminating a lot of would-be Republicans, let's be honest.
amanda milius
Yes, and why is that?
Why would they want to do that?
unidentified
Because in what kind of country can you have authoritarianism?
amanda milius
That's why we see authoritarianism in extremely poor countries, because when you're worried about what to eat and what you're going to feed your family, you don't have time to have high-minded philosophical conversations about what political system you're going to have.
And that's the problem with the right too.
I was just having a meeting with somebody earlier today and you're like, like, like, like, we're talking, me and this girl are basically on the complete same side.
We're talking about it like we're on totally opposite complete political sides.
We're on the right.
And it's like, we like take our minds, most minute differences and we make huge issues out of them.
And it's like, well, I can't go along with this because of X, Y, and Z. And it's like that the left doesn't do that.
The left is just like, they're coming after abortions.
Go vote.
unidentified
And you're like, oh, why can't... But they don't vote for anything.
tim pool
Democrats vote because someone knocked on the door and said vote, and they went, oh, I guess.
luke rudkowski
Korn, are you in California?
corin nemec
No, I live in Florida.
luke rudkowski
Have you seen... Oh, hey!
There you go, Florida man.
I live in Florida, too.
I love it there.
It's awesome and incredible.
But even in Florida, you do see this larger impact of this kind of destruction of our society.
Have you seen it in your experiences?
corin nemec
I mean, especially with my son.
My son's 17 and lives out in the suburbs of Houston.
And that, I can tell you, they've had a number of incidents.
They've had a number of kids at his school who've all died from fentanyl overdoses.
And not because they knew it was fentanyl, because they thought they were taking an ecstasy pill.
amanda milius
That's right.
corin nemec
Or they thought they were taking something else because they're pill-pressing these things.
Now, whether they're pill-pressing the fentanyl into these forms and saying that it's something else, and not intentionally putting an overdose amount in there, or intentionally putting an overdose amount in there, I can't say for sure.
But the fact that it's in there at all is frightening.
tim pool
Remember when the U.S.
government put, I think it was methanol?
Was that what it was?
luke rudkowski
In the alcohol?
During Prohibition?
corin nemec
Yeah, during Prohibition, yeah, that was a short-lived stunt.
tim pool
Did people start dying?
corin nemec
It was a short-lived stunt.
unidentified
Yeah.
luke rudkowski
They killed people?
The government deliberately killed people because they were violating prohibition?
amanda milius
I'm going to tell people that's what happened the last time I was here.
unidentified
Methanol?
ian crossland
Methanol and alcohol?
amanda milius
I'm going to tell people that you methanoled me the last time I was here.
tim pool
You'd be blind, I'm pretty sure, or dead.
No, but... I think that's what people... So, hold on, hold on.
We'll clarify.
What the government was hoping was that by putting methanol in alcohol, nobody would drink it.
corin nemec
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
And then people drank it and they died, and they're like, okay, we're gonna stop doing that.
luke rudkowski
No, no, no, they wanted a story where people would die from it, they would run with those headlines saying, see, bootlegging's dangerous, you better not drink the bootleg alcohol, as opposed to the government policies.
corin nemec
Yeah, they spiked the bootleg alcohol.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, literally created, you know, mafias.
Mafias wouldn't exist if it wasn't for government prohibition.
tim pool
So you're saying mafias wouldn't exist if it wasn't for the mafias?
unidentified
Well, no, they've been existing since ancient Rome.
luke rudkowski
I was waiting to argue, and I was like, that's actually a good point there.
amanda milius
They've existed since ancient Rome.
corin nemec
In some form or another.
luke rudkowski
But they became as prominent and as powerful only because of probation.
amanda milius
100%, for sure.
That's what happens when you accept the legal.
tim pool
No, no, the point is...
The government is a mafia, period.
corin nemec
There you go.
tim pool
And the mafia... I agree.
luke rudkowski
There are more mafias.
tim pool
Right.
They're organized structures.
People have this, I guess, fictionalized view of what a mafia is, where they're purely antagonistic to the community.
And they're not.
The same thing is true for gangs.
amanda milius
That's actually true.
tim pool
Gangs are antagonistic.
In fact, Chicago's a really great example.
The gangs in Chicago were not overtly antagonistic.
We'd go to the park and we'd be like, oh look, there's a bunch of people from a gang.
And they were just a gang.
And they would do stuff.
And in fact, they would police their neighborhoods.
So when people felt like they weren't being protected, and they didn't have the same access as other people in terms of public resources or industry, they created their own.
That's what people do.
They form organizations.
unidentified
Now some of these people... That's what ghettoized communities do.
tim pool
But all communities do it.
The difference is the United States, we've mass scaled it up to the point where it's surrounding the nation and with military bases all over the world.
When I look at Brazil, Brazil was a really great example of this with the favelas.
When the government wasn't active in the shantytowns, the favelas, gangs came up and became the de facto leadership.
When the government realized, hey, there's tax money, we need to get this stuff, we need to modernize and take control of it, they had to quote-unquote pacify, meaning they would go in and rip apart the gangs and then reassert their dominance over this area, but the gangs were basically just local government.
unidentified
That's what you get.
ian crossland
And when you say rip apart, you mean they would kill people?
tim pool
Oh yeah.
corin nemec
That's the only way to do it.
amanda milius
That's why when you see the FBI raiding the homes and raiding the political opposition, you have to realize that the FBI is just the gang of the party of the regime, right?
corin nemec
Now they're after the aliens.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, they're after the UFO guy, which they raided today, which is absolutely insane.
amanda milius
Is that like a real thing?
Did that actually happen?
ian crossland
I want to talk about this.
tim pool
About what?
luke rudkowski
The UFO guy?
unidentified
It's not the guy who wrote Behold a Pale Horse or something, is it?
luke rudkowski
No, they took that guy down.
corin nemec
Yeah, that's right.
luke rudkowski
They killed him in 2001, right after 9-11.
corin nemec
That's absolutely right.
I remember that.
luke rudkowski
He predicted 9-11.
corin nemec
That's right.
Who was that?
I read the article where he did that.
luke rudkowski
William Cooper.
unidentified
Former U.S.
corin nemec
State Department Director.
I read his article when it came out in 1999, actually.
I forget the magazine that it was in, one of these alternative magazines.
amanda milius
I thought he died of a heart attack.
luke rudkowski
He died in a shootout with police officers.
corin nemec
A one-direction shootout.
amanda milius
Sort of like Waco.
unidentified
Yes.
ian crossland
Milton William Cooper?
luke rudkowski
Yeah, former U.S.
Naval Intelligence.
Crazy book that he wrote.
Behold the Pale Horse.
ian crossland
He died November 5, 2001, so that's just about two months after 9-11.
What does he keep talking about?
Was he like, it's a conspiracy?
amanda milius
Wow, I did not know that.
corin nemec
He predicted it.
unidentified
To what degree?
luke rudkowski
What did he predict?
I gotta watch the video just to make the exact reference here, because I don't want to be very careful with how I say it.
Do you remember the exact references?
corin nemec
Yes, well, he did on his radio show, he talked about it, but it wasn't so much in the sense that, if I recall correctly, he did say... Well, even Alex Jones was making predictions.
amanda milius
So did Alex Jones!
luke rudkowski
But before Alex Jones, it was Cooper, I believe.
corin nemec
Yes, yeah, yeah.
And there was also, we were talking about Jordan Maxwell earlier, there was another guy who was really on to all of this stuff and everything, but that was pretty shocking, but it was in such a way that he didn't say specifically what happened, but, you know, I would have to go back and look at it again.
as well, but it was pretty eye-opening.
And the fact that they went and whacked him afterwards.
amanda milius
Well, Timothy McVeigh's lawyer wrote a book about his case where it included an entire chapter about Osama Bin Laden that was removed from later printings.
luke rudkowski
He said Osama Bin Laden will be blamed for it.
amanda milius
I think that's the exact quote.
luke rudkowski
Before 9-11.
tim pool
Let's just absolutely segue into something totally unrelated.
luke rudkowski
That's the whole show.
tim pool
Richard Medhurst says, this is huge.
Over a dozen.
You're done?
unidentified
Yeah.
amanda milius
Keep going.
unidentified
But I still think you need more than I do.
Go, go, go!
amanda milius
This is huge.
tim pool
Alright, so we have a tweet here from Richard Medhurst, says, This is huge!
Over a dozen countries have now applied to join BRICS, including Algeria, Iran, and Argentina.
The multipolar order is taking shape before us.
If expanded, BRICS would compromise over half the global population, 60% of global gas, and 45% of global oil reserves.
To me, it doesn't sound like multipolar, it just sounds like the end of the American empire.
ian crossland
Sounds like bipolar.
That's what it sounds like.
tim pool
No, no, no, it's the end of the United States.
corin nemec
The petrodollar, yeah.
It'll be the death of the petrodollar, no doubt.
amanda milius
I mean, I hate to say this, but this is what I was talking about on the last show.
About BRICS?
No, the end of America being a superpower.
People aren't really ready for that.
They don't know what it's like to not be in a country that can just flip a switch and say, I want things to be like this.
corin nemec
Tim, are they doing an actual currency with this, or is it just...
I mean, are they going to launch a currency that's going to back this up?
tim pool
I bet it'll be a crypto.
I bet it'll be a crypto of some sort.
unidentified
Because I remember when they were... Maybe even Bitcoin itself.
amanda milius
During Beaty Celebrates.
corin nemec
When they were doing, when the EU was first launching, they were selling, it was, I think it was five cents on the dollar you could buy euros before they launched the, before they fully launched.
It's like, if this is, if they're going to make a currency out of this, I want in!
ian crossland
And I would be willing to bet.
tim pool
You know, I'm not saying it's true.
ian crossland
yet there's a news article from the at over seven twenty twenty two there
putin said he plans on creating a quote new global reserve currency
unidentified
yes central bank digital currency and i would be willing to do that
tim pool
you know i'm not saying it's true i'm saying it's hyper speculative highly
speculative but i would not be surprised if american elites are purposefully
tanking the u.s. in while sending their assets over through maybe like Panama, where a lot of money was stored, or Switzerland.
And we know Joe Biden flew on Air Force Two with his son Hunter for a private equity deal in China.
I think the elites, they are stealing the silverware from the Titanic after the iceberg was hit, 2008.
They're jumping on the life rafts, telling everybody everything's fine, don't worry about it.
Taking those lifeboats off to another big ship, loading up all the silver, coming back and saying, everything's okay people, don't worry about it.
They're getting ready to jump ship.
corin nemec
I would buy that for a dollar.
amanda milius
I think that explains a lot of the Ukraine business.
I think that explains a lot.
corin nemec
A lot.
ian crossland
So it's just that economics doesn't care about American Republicanism.
unidentified
No way!
corin nemec
It never has.
Economics has never cared.
amanda milius
I'm going to avoid saying the thing we're not supposed to say, but it also has to do with that.
So the fact that 2008 happened and nothing ever came of it and they needed something to blame it on and distract for a while and also to control populations, they had to do that and then do what Tim's talking about.
unidentified
See?
amanda milius
See what I did there?
ian crossland
So it's like... Figure it out, folks!
Maybe you're talking about the global... I guess you call it the Bank for International Settlements in Switzerland that's printing... No, no, I'm talking about something else.
Selling the Federal Reserve money.
amanda milius
Talking about something else.
ian crossland
Well, I think I know... Is he a fever?
tim pool
And the Bank of International Settlements is the old system.
What they're proposing now with BRICS is going to be to get off of that system.
So when Russia invades Ukraine, they threaten to rip them from SWIFT.
And so immediately they're like, okay, we need something else because we cannot be beholden to the US.
I'd be willing to bet they immediately started going around, and this is years ago, in fact, we know they were doing this, and pitching to these countries, join us, the resistance.
And now with Ukraine and everything that's going on and the U.S.
is in total chaos, I'd be willing to bet, and again this is very surface level because I don't have access to classified information, I'd be willing to bet that China's been subverting the U.S.
through TikTok and through social media.
Our foreign adversaries have been doing the same thing.
We have been spinning around rope-a-dope while they've been preparing all of this stuff and there are elites in the United States who know what's happening and said, you know what, if you can't beat them, join them.
amanda milius
No, that's not only what's happened, but you can actually look at this.
If you look at the bill that just came out about unveiling who runs the think tanks, it's not just that they've been rope-a-doping, they have been cashing out on this.
Every single think tank in Washington D.C.
is owned by a different foreign country, and they're not like our friends.
They're not like England.
I mean even though England is our actual biggest enemy, people need to start understanding, it's like really really bad ones.
Like ones that are on, like the State Department in one hand is creating lists of bad countries that are sanctioned and on the other hand sending their staff over to work at think tanks that are funded by those countries.
So, like, make that make sense for me.
Like, that's, that's, that, it's not just, it's not as innocent even as rope-a-dope.
Like, I think what Tim's saying actually is completely correct.
I just think it's a gazillion times worse than that, from what I saw.
tim pool
What do we do?
Just get some chickens?
Get a gun?
amanda milius
Yeah.
You're on the right path.
ian crossland
Solar power?
luke rudkowski
Watch the fall of the U.S.
Empire?
ian crossland
Well, we're participating in it.
luke rudkowski
We also forgot how they're shipping in all the drugs to pacify the general public and destroying men and testosterone so no one could rebel and fight back.
tim pool
Listen, when all of this is happening and then our border is completely porous, they don't care.
Drugs are pouring and they don't care.
Our economy is completely destroyed, they don't care.
I'm just like, okay, they're participating in it.
corin nemec
Yeah.
amanda milius
And when we say they, I have to take some responsibility for this.
It's not just Biden.
Like in a Trump administration, do you know what happened to the immigration bill?
It was shelved by the same people that are running AFPI right now, which is why I'm in a big old fight with them and why like they're all can't understand why I'm coming after them on Twitter.
But like the same exact people that are running AFPI are the ones that decided to shelve the immigration bill in favor of having Kim Kardashian's more moments with celebrities like that and release more criminals because that was at the top of the list of all the Americans.
America First was definitely about, let's release more criminals early, not do immigration, do tax policy, and plant a thousand trees.
I don't remember that in any rally.
But that's what we did.
And I'm saying we because I was in that office.
So it's like, that wasn't what I was working on.
We were working on the immigration bill.
And I can tell you, it would have solved a lot of these issues.
Do you know that there's so much, the amount, the number of What are they called, those things you put on trucks that come in through ships, like the shipping containers?
They're that big, right?
Not just the little FedEx package.
A package, a giant box that big.
The number of those that are uninspected coming through our ports is so low, is so low, that the number itself is classified.
I'm not saying anything classified by saying that.
If the number is classified, because if the American people knew, it would freak them out that badly.
tim pool
I don't think they care.
I think we found out that Joe Biden was shipping children, illegal immigrant children, across the country, and it was a story only for people who read the news.
And half the country, despite the... You know, here's what I see.
I see this story in front of us.
The petrodollar's been at risk for a long time.
corin nemec
Since the 70s.
tim pool
Since the 70s, but it's been getting progressively worse in the past several years.
Five, six, seven years ago, Russia starts dumping U.S.
bonds.
China, they've been preparing for this.
The people running this country, they literally don't care.
Donald Trump starts showing up our borders, showing up our defenses, sealing our border, bringing jobs back, getting factories from Mexico back in.
Boy, do they lose their minds.
And we've talked about this.
It may be because of Thucydides' trap.
Which is this historical concept that whenever the dominant economic power is about to be displaced by a rising economic power, war breaks out.
At least 12 out of the 16 times in the past 500 years.
So perhaps what's happening is they're saying to avoid World War III, we will control demolition in the United States and then rebuild up where it's growing rapidly, say China, the BRICS countries.
And thus, we are watching the complete and total collapse of our country And what happens is, with expanded universal mail-in voting, the American people who are so blinded, so stupid, so ignorant, and so hate-filled, are voting themselves into oblivion.
And you know what?
This is what I was saying earlier.
I'm very, very much about individualism, so my worst case scenario is, it's not my preferred ideal that this country goes belly-up, but You know, I'm fine with trying to figure things out for myself and not having to rely on other people.
And I'm not saying I will be good at surviving completely in the wilderness.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
But, you know, this is one of the reasons we get out to the middle of nowhere.
We install solar panels with massive batteries.
We get backup generators.
We buy copper wire.
amanda milius
You think they're gonna let you do that, though?
tim pool
They?
If the country completely falls apart, there's not going to be a they anymore.
It's going to be roving bands of people desperate for food, and then what happens is communities isolate each other.
Call it a national divorce, whatever you want.
Where we are right now, this is MAGA country.
The neighbors out here, they got big signs flying the Trump flags.
In a second, if there was a major crisis, there would be a neighborhood watch meeting.
People would know exactly what to do and how to do it.
People would be fortified.
I'm not saying I'm doing anything crazy prepper-like like preppers do.
Maybe we should, because this is very alarming, the BRICS countries.
I kind of am, I mean... But I mean, like, 30 years worth of food and, like, you know, look... Three is enough.
I mean, not if it's the total cost of the U.S., right?
corin nemec
Well, yeah, I mean, but if you're still, if three years have gone by, you're still living on some bagged, some bad, you know... Bagged food, I think.
Hold on, hold on.
tim pool
No, no, no, no, listen, listen.
Here's what you do.
When you store emergency food for the apocalypse scenario... Yeah, I have a selection.
You never touch it.
What you do is you always make sure you're getting your food from natural sources and only in extreme emergencies do you tap into your reserves.
After three years, ain't gonna be no Chef Boyardee anymore.
That's gonna be worth gold.
There's gonna be some dude and he's gonna be like, you have an unopened Chef Boyardee?
That's right.
No, no, I want that case of 9mm.
I'll give you anything for it.
unidentified
He opens it and there's mud in it.
tim pool
No, no, the can's just faded and filthy.
unidentified
Oh, I think what you'd get for a pack of Hubba Bubba.
tim pool
You know, he cracks it open, takes his finger and just puts it in his mouth and then instantly in his mind is transported to being a little kid in a beautiful suburb and his mom hands him the bowl and he's like, I love you, mom.
She's like, I love you.
And then he flashes back to reality, his clothes are ripped, he's covered in dirt and he's like...
I was talking to Michael Malice earlier, he's got a book coming out, but one of the things he said to me was, people in this country absolutely do not realize what bad is.
amanda milius
That's what I'm trying to say, because he's an expert on North Korea, and many other countries like that.
What I'm trying to say is, we don't know, we are so not prepared for what it's like to not be a superpower.
Well, what I'm saying is, like, getting to the point where you're at, where it's like, okay, fine, maybe there isn't a they.
Maybe it is roving gangs, and maybe it's all that, and everybody else is trained to be an influencer.
luke rudkowski
Everyone in Poland, you know, everyone in Poland and my family jars their food, has a little plot of land where they grow their own food.
amanda milius
Yeah, the Mormons will be fine.
luke rudkowski
We do that because the communists starved my family.
So, people don't understand how bad it can get.
It can get really bad, really quick, and it's only about us standing in the way.
corin nemec
I'm going to become Amish.
tim pool
We're going to go to Super Chats.
ian crossland
One thing that could happen, because we're not an empire.
I mean, it might look kind of empirical.
You know, there's the British Empire.
We are an American Republic.
And when the Roman Republic fell, it became an empire.
So if some strongman steps in and says, turns this country into a Juta and runs it through the military, goes around, kills whoever disagrees... You mean the Red Caesar?
Yeah, if something like a Caesar were to appear with a military force and people and then we're like second fiddle to the Chinese superstructure and we're just kind of like a vassal state.
amanda milius
No, first we get to be the American Empire though.
unidentified
I don't know if there was a we involved in that.
amanda milius
No, we need the American Caesar and that's why when we get the Red Caesar, we're going to have a handful of hundred years of good times.
That's going to be awesome.
And then everything can fall apart.
But first I insist on a Red Caesar.
tim pool
All right, we're gonna go to Super Chats.
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And I just want to give one last special thank you to everybody who supported our song, uh, Genocide, Losing My Mind.
The billboard tracking period ended last night.
It still keeps tracking forever, but that was the big push.
We're still gonna do marketing and everything, but...
Seriously, thank you for checking out the song, listening to it, streaming it, edit your playlists, all that.
We still want to promote it.
We still want you to listen to the song and enjoy it.
But we're going to get the numbers on Billboard on Tuesday and see how well we did.
So thank you all so much.
We got Plurberry who says, a bunch of news outlets reporting Russia is removing troops.
Sounds to me like he's getting ready to nuke.
Also, Ra-La-La-Land and Trinidad and Tobago pressure.
Well said.
Bidenisms.
The Culture Warrior says, I see the Step On Snack shirt got jacked by some weird company on FB.
Yeah, you know, what are you gonna do about it?
But I'll tell you what you can do.
In the pinned, in the chat right now, is our Stand Your Ground rooster shirt.
You can click that and buy it.
It is a rooster, and he's raising his wings going, and he says, Stand Your Ground, it says.
And it's because the noble rooster, he will rush to fight a predator, knowing he will die.
If it means his hens will get but a few more seconds to escape.
Be like the noble rooster.
Stand your ground.
Stand up for what you believe in.
unidentified
Yeah.
corin nemec
Can we get matching tattoos?
ian crossland
Cock-a-doodle-doo.
tim pool
I'm not gonna get that tattoo, but you can get the shirt.
corin nemec
Dang it.
tim pool
We gotta order some.
amanda milius
You guys gotta hook me up with some of these shirts, so I got things to wear on the plane.
tim pool
Oh yeah, we can have a step-on snack and find out.
amanda milius
Hook me up with some shirts.
luke rudkowski
I'll mail you some shirts.
tim pool
Yeah, Luke's the shirt guy.
We just, we have like, we have sillier shirts.
Luke has the overt, political, funny ones.
amanda milius
Yeah, I want overt, weird stuff.
luke rudkowski
I got some really crazy ones I can't even share here.
tim pool
Alright, yeah, hook me up with those.
amanda milius
That's what I want.
tim pool
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
says, Tim, it's Veterans Day.
While many cozy at home, veterans were away from family.
Some worked the keyboard, some replaced gear, some kicked down doors, all signed that blank check.
Shout out to veterans.
Hear, hear.
Shout out to veterans, man.
amanda milius
Absolutely.
tim pool
And the end of World War I, I think you were saying?
luke rudkowski
Yeah, Armistice Day.
unidentified
Yeah, Armistice Day.
tim pool
Is that the same day, like always?
Veterans Day and the end of World War I?
amanda milius
Yeah, they turned it into Veterans Day.
ian crossland
It used to be called Armistice Day.
It was celebrated globally and then Americans turned it down.
amanda milius
When that was the biggest war.
When they thought that was the war to end all war.
tim pool
Do you guys know about the Christmas Armistice I think it was called, right?
unidentified
Christmas Truce.
ian crossland
It's when the French and the Germans came out of their trenches Christmas Eve and they just were like, why are we even fighting?
They started playing soccer.
They were like, hanging out smoking cigarettes nicotine nationalism smoking cigarettes together and the next morning the french commanders were like all right it's time for you to go kill them and they're like we're not and they're like then i'm gonna shoot you in the back you better and this french like this is early that's how war works yeah this is early 1914 the beginning of the war as well to point that out before all those four years of everyone killing each other so in the worst possible ways yeah still didn't know why they were fighting that's the weirdest thing now yep
amanda milius
Do they ever?
Do we ever?
I'm sorry, why were we in Afghanistan?
corin nemec
Ferdinand!
Hey, someone killed Prince Ferdinand, man!
You gotta go to war over that!
luke rudkowski
There's a lot of heroin in Afghanistan.
You gotta man the poppy.
corin nemec
All right.
tim pool
Tara Few says, Corrin loved you in Stargate.
It is hands down my favorite TV show.
Thank you for all you do.
corin nemec
Sweet.
tim pool
Well, thank you.
Here it comes.
Alex Ritter says, Jonas Quinn in the house.
Now get Christopher Judge.
corin nemec
He is an entertaining fellow, I will say.
tim pool
David says Jonas Quinn was a Mary Sue, but Cora Nemec nailed it.
Do you think he was a Mary Sue?
corin nemec
I'm not sure exactly what a Mary Sue is.
tim pool
It's a character who's powerful through deus ex machina.
You introduce a character and they're just powerful.
unidentified
They don't go through the development and earning of... Oh, like in Star Wars when the girls always are better.
amanda milius
I mean, I was no Jar Jar Binks, but I did my part.
tim pool
So Rey is a Mary Sue, right?
amanda milius
Exactly.
tim pool
She, like, she uses the force and she lifts like 50 tons.
amanda milius
And she's better than all the guys that we spent three movies watching train just to have one fight.
tim pool
She didn't have to train.
amanda milius
She didn't have to train at all.
She just picks, because she's a chick, she picks up the thing and she's better than everybody.
ian crossland
Did your guy just appear and he was super strong?
corin nemec
It's my mental capacity that served my character so well.
I was able to absorb huge amounts of data and regurgitate it instantaneously.
amanda milius
How do I get that belt buckle?
Are you guys seeing this?
corin nemec
It's my great uncle's belt buckle.
amanda milius
Can I get a fake one?
corin nemec
It is a nice one.
It is fancy.
amanda milius
It's a giant Masonic.
corin nemec
No, I do have one of those, though.
amanda milius
I'm not trying to get you to take your pants off, sir.
corin nemec
No, no, no.
I have a hilarious one.
unidentified
I respect your marriage, but I'm just saying it's a cool belt buckle.
corin nemec
Thank you.
tim pool
All right, Keto Master says, Tim, Republicans at large may have won, but I feel like I've lost.
I'm in Oregon, and an evil harpy will now be the governor and Measure 114 passed.
Yeah, that's insane.
amanda milius
Move.
tim pool
You see that?
The gun control thing?
unidentified
Move.
tim pool
It's like, you need lessons, you need permits, you can't buy guns anymore.
ian crossland
Where is that?
unidentified
What state?
tim pool
Oregon.
corin nemec
And there's something about the... Do you think that they're going to be able to vote?
Those counties are going to be able to vote themselves out?
tim pool
Exactly, they need to secede.
corin nemec
So it's going to be instead of Oregon, it's going to be Oregon?
amanda milius
No, no, no.
tim pool
Here's what doesn't make sense.
Let me give you some logic.
I used to give my friends when I was a little kid because I was a... Gifted?
Bad influence.
So I'm talking to a friend of mine.
And I'm like, hey, you want to go skate?
And he goes, I can't.
I'm grounded.
And I was like, what does that mean?
He's like, I'm not allowed to go outside.
And I was like, what do you mean you're not allowed to go outside?
My parents told me I can't leave the house.
And I was like, so what happens if you leave the house?
And he goes, I'll get grounded more.
And then I'm like, okay, so if you're grounded and you leave the house, they'll ground you more, right?
And then what happens if you leave the house after that?
And he goes, they'll ground me more!
And I'm like, are you following the logic here?
And they're like, oh.
And I'm like, dude, if all they're going to do is ground you and you leave and they ground you more, grounding isn't doing anything to you.
So my attitude with the secession from Oregon is like, These counties voted to do it.
Or they voted to put it on a bill, or I can't remember exactly what it was.
And then everyone's like, yeah, well, Congress will never let it happen, and the states won't let it happen, and I'm like, let?
What does that mean?
amanda milius
Yeah.
tim pool
You as the people voted to do it, so what happens next?
My thought is, if the people in this county are like, okay, we've seceded, what is anyone gonna do?
Is Oregon gonna send state police to your county and then remove all of the government?
Perhaps, I guess.
But if the people who live there are like, we seceded, what are they gonna do?
amanda milius
LFG!
tim pool
Start arresting every single person?
corin nemec
If they don't pay their state taxes!
amanda milius
Sure.
tim pool
And then I guess the issue is, if people who live in these areas agree to abide by the rules and laws of Portland, of the West Coast, then they did not secede.
They just said they wanted to.
My point is, if you've got all these counties all over the country that are saying, we hereby vote to secede, and I'm like, so then Then you did, right?
You stopped paying taxes, you stopped abiding.
There's a northern district in Colorado.
If you voted for this, does that mean you've called up the governor of Idaho?
What's north of Colorado?
It's not Idaho, is it?
unidentified
No, it's Wyoming.
tim pool
Did you call them up and say, hey, where are you now?
And what did they say?
Has any of that occurred?
Right now, in Western Maryland, they wrote letters saying they wanted to secede these three counties and join West Virginia.
corin nemec
And it's like... Maryland and their secessionist tendencies, you know?
tim pool
Actually, no, Maryland did not want to secede.
corin nemec
In the Civil War?
No, they were way above the line.
tim pool
No, Maryland was a slave state, south of Mason-Dixon.
unidentified
in. But they were southern... Southern slaves that did not secede. But they didn't.
corin nemec
But they didn't.
But I thought that they did secede, but they got taken over immediately.
tim pool
Nope, they did not secede.
In the initial secession, I believe, I could be wrong, guys.
I know many of you know more about the Civil War than me.
But seven states seceded, and there were four slave states that didn't.
No, no, I'm sorry.
There was more than four slave states.
There was probably seven, I think, others.
But only four others joined in the South several months later because of Abraham Lincoln's call for volunteers.
So Maryland was a slave state.
So was Delaware.
They remained in the Union, and then the federal government arrested 30-some-odd assembly members from Maryland because they were in favor of it, but the overwhelming majority were not in favor of secession.
ian crossland
Did the federal government just set up, like, military all over Maryland?
tim pool
Oh, totally.
Abraham Lincoln was like, I declare from D.C.
to Pennsylvania anyone will be arrested for any reason without charge or trial.
And then everyone's like, sounds good to me!
And then he went around arresting people.
And there was like a famous case of some guy who was just flipping them off and saying, screw you guys.
So they arrested him for no reason and held him until after the war.
unidentified
And people... Turns out I was John Wilkes Booth.
tim pool
I'm gonna just stop.
But that's the issue, you know.
amanda milius
I just almost went too far.
tim pool
You know, most people assume like... I mean, he was a tyrant, let's be honest.
There was an article, I think it was from Slate.
amanda milius
Totally anti-constitutional.
tim pool
And they wrote that 11 states seceded from the Union out of fear that slavery would be ended.
And it's like, man.
I've, like, read a few academic papers on the Civil War, went on a few tours, and I already know that's not true.
It was Seven, and then Sumter happened, and a bunch of other stuff happened.
In fact, the crazy thing is, I was reading about... I think it was at the first Battle of Bull Run.
The South could have invaded D.C.
and won instantly, but they did not want to start a war with the North.
They were trying just to stop the North from coming into the South.
And so, like, after the first battle, everyone's in panic.
They're running and screaming.
Because Virginia's right there on DC.
unidentified
That's right.
corin nemec
Yeah.
tim pool
And so they didn't advance.
amanda milius
And it used to be part of it.
I mean, that's the thing.
If you want to talk about your Masonic thing, I mean, the original line of the Capitol was meant to be lined up with the Temple.
unidentified
Right.
amanda milius
The original stone.
I only know because I jog by it almost every day.
corin nemec
Yeah, it was where they lined up the whole city outwards from there, the center of the city.
amanda milius
It was meant to include Virginia.
They just cut it off at the river.
tim pool
Mind Fury says, I knew that voice sounded familiar.
Captain Alvarez from Star Trek Renegades.
corin nemec
A short-lived web series version of Star Trek.
Cool.
Yeah, it was fun.
Which era was it in?
tim pool
Was it the 90s era?
No, no, no.
We shot it maybe 12 years ago.
corin nemec
Something like that.
It wasn't that long ago.
But it was, maybe in 2013 or 14, but it was an attempt to do a new series for Star Trek, but an independent kind of take on it, and they just couldn't get the rights and everybody to get on board.
They ended up having to do the second season they did, they ended up having to drop the Star Trek from the name and just call it Renegades.
ian crossland
Yeah, they call it a fan film now.
corin nemec
Yeah.
ian crossland
When I searched it.
corin nemec
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
Legamuth the Gaean says, Jaffa Cree!
But in all seriousness, you were awesome in that show, and it's great to see your face again after so many years.
corin nemec
Thank you.
tim pool
Right on.
luke rudkowski
Great username.
corin nemec
Yeah, I used to... Jaffa, that would be a great new username, Jaffa Cree.
Or his username.
luke rudkowski
Oh, his username.
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
corin nemec
Okay, gotcha.
tim pool
I used to, like, reference Star Trek a whole lot, and then a bunch of people started saying, if you like Star Trek, you gotta watch SG-1.
Yeah.
And then I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll get to it, I'll get to it.
You know, I'll watch at some point.
And then SyFy started showing SG-1.
No, no, it was Comet, I think.
And then, uh, it was like 4 p.m.
4, 5, and 6, I think, they would have three episodes back-to-back, just straight through.
And I'd just be sitting there just watching for three hours every day.
And I was like, this show's awesome.
corin nemec
Yeah, it is.
What I liked most about it was the fact that it took place in present time, but was a sci-fi.
You know, most sci-fis are, you know, someplace in the faraway future, or whatever, and you can't really... But this is, like, something you could really hang on to and go, wow, I feel like I could be a part of this.
Like, I feel like the Stargate is real.
I mean, I've had, at conventions I've done, I've had people convinced to a T that it's real, and they created the series to hide the real Stargate.
tim pool
We know it's real, dude.
corin nemec
All of that stuff.
tim pool
We've all seen the episode.
extreme. We know that was a signal to all the fans that it was real the whole time.
ian crossland
Yeah, but we know it's not real real. End of story guys, let's move on.
tim pool
Well, it's funny because the Stargate project actually had nothing to do with portals.
unidentified
Was it like psychic powers? Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
ian crossland
And that was their star gets Native Americans would go inside of a circle that they would, like, draw out and actually project into the stars.
corin nemec
Astral projection.
Well, that's what the pyramids were, well, some say were originally used for, as astral projection chambers.
amanda milius
Because they're on those lines that y'all are so fond of.
corin nemec
And the way the pyramid itself is built, but that's a whole other discussion.
I'll talk about that after the show.
amanda milius
You mean those pyramids, those slave-built... Oh, impossible.
When are we going to tear down those monuments to slavery?
That's what I want to know.
corin nemec
Yeah, when they can prove the slaves built them.
tim pool
All right, Jay Williams sees as his message is for Ian.
Please, sir, could you check your Instagram DMs to see the idea, have, and details?
It's a platform based on incentivizing innovation and connecting individuals for the correct reasons.
I'll send you more details if you have any questions.
ian crossland
Thank you.
Yes, I will.
unidentified
All right.
amanda milius
Wow, that sounds like my DMs.
That sucks.
ian crossland
Yeah, I'm not saying I'm gonna respond, but I'll definitely check it out.
I get a lot of messages.
amanda milius
Dude, you know how many, like, scripts I get that are, like, the Founding Fathers, the musical, and they're like, I have this idea!
I've polished it off just for you!
And I'm like, please don't.
ian crossland
But I will encourage you, build the thing and then get to me with the finished product, and I can help you market it.
It's a lot better than asking me to start a new project right now.
tim pool
Alright, James Hates Everything says, Corrin, please reboot Parker Lewis.
corin nemec
Oh, I've had some conversations about that, actually.
tim pool
Like official studio stuff?
corin nemec
Well, there was an attempt by the creators to pitch a version of it that was turned down, but I have my own version that I'm dying to pitch.
Uh, Parker Lewis can't win.
And it's the reverse.
It's him now.
He's old.
He's lost everything.
Miss Musso is the mayor of the town.
Lemmer is the local sheriff.
Kubiak is now a famous wrestler.
Mikey's a famous musician.
Jerry's a district court judge, which is actually true.
Troy Slayton is a judge out in California now.
But, uh, and that, you know, everything that he does just turns to crap.
tim pool
Peaked in high school and then from there... Yeah, yeah, yeah.
corin nemec
So it's like him trying to, you know, relive the old, get everybody shucking and jiving, trying to get some new thing off of it.
Everything is thwarted by Ms.
Musso and this, and he's living on people's couches, and it's the exact opposite.
It's so sad, though.
I think it'll be hilarious.
Dark comedy.
In the end, he wins.
In the end, he wins.
ian crossland
Yeah, Parker always wins.
corin nemec
Yeah.
So it's Parker Lewis Can't Win for the first four seasons, then season five it's back to Parker Lewis Can't Win.
tim pool
Who owns the rights?
corin nemec
Ah, Sony TV.
tim pool
Make it happen, man.
corin nemec
I know, it would be hilarious.
amanda milius
Doesn't that suck, though?
That's where all my dad's stuff is.
People ask me all the time, they're like, doesn't your dad have like 30 unmade scripts?
And I'm like, yeah, and they're all owned by the movie studios that were paying him to write them while he smoked cigars and hung out with the Hells Angels.
Like, I can't get that.
corin nemec
Not a bad life, though.
amanda milius
That's what I'm saying, and he wonders.
He's like, can't you go?
He conveniently forgets because he had a stroke like 15 years ago.
I mean, sorry, but he did.
And he'll be like, hey, why don't you?
Because he knows I make movies now.
He's like, you, you, daughter.
You make my Curtis LeMay movie now.
And I'm like, Dad, I can't.
You wrote it when you were getting paid all that money by Warner Brothers.
Remember when you were just hanging out?
That's why.
corin nemec
Yeah, you might have.
If you could find his old contracts, you could see if it's owned in perpetuity or not.
tim pool
All right, Josh Coppock says, give me Ian's pagan rocks so I can grind them into holy rosaries.
God wills it.
ian crossland
Ooh, I might have a good one for you.
tim pool
Well, so the idea is, just for those, because I see some people commenting about it, is if you become a member at TimCast.com, And watch our members-only shows, any one of them, Tales from the Inverted World, uh, uh, Cass Castle, and the Tim Cass Uncensored Show.
We are going to just scroll in, grab a random comment, send you an email, and be like, hey, we just, it's just random.
We saw your name, we picked it, and we're gonna send you something from the show.
Uh, the way I see it is we got a table full of garbage.
Here, Ian, give me that bag behind your laptop.
Yeah, dude.
There's so many.
corin nemec
Here's a good example.
ian crossland
A bunch of balloons.
tim pool
Here's a good example.
This is a bag of balloons.
luke rudkowski
Luke Hradowski's bazonka balloons.
tim pool
It's just sitting on the table for no reason.
luke rudkowski
And it's because... No, there's a reason.
unidentified
It's because Luke inflated these to put bazonkas... I needed to compete with Libby Evans.
tim pool
He put them in his shirt, and now this garbage is just sitting here.
So I'm like, we need to get rid of all this garbage.
What do we do with it?
We give it away!
We make you responsible for the garbage.
Once a week, we'll have someone hit up the people in the comments and just be like, hey, we've got... It'll always be something relevant, like we're not going to send you a can or a bottle of water.
amanda milius
This is kind of cool.
ian crossland
Yeah, that's not garbage.
tim pool
That's cool.
That's real money.
ian crossland
That's before the Federal Reserve was formed, what money used to be when states would issue their own currency.
corin nemec
This is neat.
amanda milius
How many sides do you think this has, sir?
tim pool
What is that one, an 80?
amanda milius
Uh, no.
33 maybe?
ian crossland
It's not 20.
tim pool
I think that's an 8, a 40?
ian crossland
I think it's 33.
33 sided?
tim pool
No, I think it's a 40 sided.
corin nemec
That's a lot of sides though.
tim pool
I don't know.
But we'll send you stuff like that, we'll send you uh... Like Tim's old lint roll paper, where he... No, we're not gonna send you that.
ian crossland
Dude, your lint would sell, you admit.
corin nemec
Why is this so heavy?
tim pool
Use tissues!
We do have the auction thing we can auction off the weirdest stuff splurges boogers on the tissue.
Yeah The contents of the studio garbage Somewhere guys we found a way to get rid of it It's better than recycling as it ends up.
unidentified
You know just being dumped off the coast There's a company that would send garbage to politicians.
tim pool
Yeah Here's a good one.
Steve Smith, he says, this will be the last episode of TimCast IRL I watch.
I can no longer support a show that picks DeSantis over Trump and calls for banning TikTok.
Thank you, Tim and Ian, for putting on so many great shows over the past two years.
ian crossland
Are you trolling?
tim pool
I totally said it.
corin nemec
Banning TikTok is a great idea.
That's the best idea ever.
amanda milius
TikTok is the worst thing.
That's almost as bad as the fentanyl that they sent us.
corin nemec
It's digital fentanyl.
amanda milius
That's right.
It's digital fentanyl.
TikTok is 100% digital fentanyl.
ian crossland
And the biggest issue is that it's proprietary software controlled by the CCU.
tim pool
And I will clarify too, I've not definitively said DeSantis should be the person, I've said, there should be an open primary to figure out who has the ability.
The Republicans' problem right now is they have too many star players, and the Democrats' problem is they don't even have one.
amanda milius
They literally have no one that can even speak English.
tim pool
Seriously.
amanda milius
I just want to finish 22.
That's all I'm saying.
I'm just like, I refuse to get involved in the 24 conversation until we've at least got an answer on 22.
I'm so excited for the end of the year.
tim pool
It's gonna be great.
We got big New Year's plans.
All right, what do we got here?
We've got Noah Poa says, actually, the Isu in Assassin's Creed were from a prehistoric civilization.
Unimportant, but I couldn't resist the fact check.
Okay, well, there you go.
I haven't played that game in a decade or whatever, so.
Chris Monkton says, had to search for Timcast tonight.
Normally near the top of my feed.
Must be doing something right.
Yeah, they're rather unhappy with us, probably over hosting Milo.
ian crossland
I can only assume.
tim pool
That will do it.
ian crossland
Milo loves LSD, by the way.
tim pool
He was saying, like, Trump has got to do it, Trump has got to win, and then YouTube was probably like, oh geez, oh no, he's promoting Trump, what do we do?
They love it when we're like DeSantis.
unidentified
Yeah, I didn't get a notification.
amanda milius
That's weird.
luke rudkowski
They made a fictional depiction of Milo and DeSantis doing awful things that we described in an after show.
I watched that full episode.
ian crossland
It's horrible.
luke rudkowski
It was disgusting.
And that wasn't the craziest part of the whole series.
tim pool
Is DeSantis in it?
luke rudkowski
No, no, no, no, no, but it clearly it's Milo and then the whole thing is staged with 20,000 white supremacists and Patriot front groups protesting in Chicago and then setting up a terrorist attack to kill all black lawyers.
Yes, that's the premise of the episode.
unidentified
These people live in a weird Yes, that's the premise of the entire episode.
luke rudkowski
Sorry if I ruined it for you, but it's absolutely deranged and they keep making these like slide crazy racist jabs that are just like mind-boggling and just like so very low effort and not intelligent at all.
amanda milius
I'm in.
tim pool
John Leroy says it cannot be understated that how both Hobbs and Lake are addressing the Maricopa County vote count is a huge indicator on how they would handle other issues plaguing their constituents.
Carrie, uh, Carizona for governor.
Absolutely.
Carrie Lake's fantastic.
She better win.
amanda milius
Absolutely.
She is.
She's the vibe.
tim pool
What do we got?
Paul Hines says Jonas Quinn was such a great character.
I love that he wasn't just a written character, he was clearly based on Corrin and the fascinating person that he is.
Very cool.
corin nemec
Aw, thanks.
How much do I owe you?
ian crossland
Did they give you leeway when you were building the character?
corin nemec
At first, and then I was banned from using props after a scene when I was... We were doing a scene in the main room where you talk about all the next mission and all that, you know, the big boardroom, and I had one line in the whole entire scene, and they had me standing by a whole big fruit pile, you know, on a table, so I started peeling this bright orange orange the whole time, Until I get to my one line of dialogue so I can, like, eat the orange while I'm saying it, you know?
And they were fine with it, but then when they got in the editing room, they realized every time they cut to the wide shot, I'm over there just, like, peeling this orange, and everybody's like, what is he doing?
And they're not listening to anything else that's going on.
And after that, they were like, okay, unless it's scripted, you can't use it.
Because I had a banana in outer space scene that was iconic.
tim pool
It wasn't scripted.
Was it scary actually going through the Stargate on the show to transport to other worlds?
corin nemec
Yeah, that's what people have asked me.
It's so real.
No, seriously, they really have.
They're like, what's it like going through the Stargate?
And I'm like, well, you know, there's this big thing called a green screen that's right there, you know, and then there's this line that you cross between where the gate is and then where the green screen is, and you step across that.
ian crossland
So you're saying there is a Stargate.
corin nemec
That's it.
ian crossland
I'm just getting that clear.
corin nemec
Yeah, there is, but it'll only transport you an inch and a half through present time.
tim pool
And through the air.
Were you ever worried the iris would come down on you as you were passing through the Stargate?
Okay, now I'm just done.
corin nemec
I'm done.
Well, it was called the giant toilet bowl, is what kind of... You know somebody pees through the Stargate.
tim pool
And wasn't it like they had one static prop and then one mobile prop?
And so they had to keep using the mobile one for all the different scenes and every different plan?
corin nemec
I think there were, yeah, there was a number of Stargates they had, and they had some that didn't work and some that did.
So, I mean, the one that was the primary one in the SGC, I mean, that thing could work, all the chevrons opened and closed, it spun around, it lit up, I mean, I was like... Was it the same one from the movie?
tim pool
Like, did they just keep it?
corin nemec
No, no, no, it wasn't the exact same one, it was a new one, yeah.
tim pool
Because I remember reading about how fans would be like, how come this one will rotate and lock in the things, but then outside on other planets it just lights up?
corin nemec
Yeah, because it's way too expensive to be bringing that thing all around all the place.
tim pool
It's a good show, man.
If you haven't watched it, it's an addictive show.
It's super good.
I love how they use, like, ancient god mythology into the sci-fi.
corin nemec
That's why I'm so into it.
Yeah, I love that.
tim pool
All right, Druid Arrow says, constitutional anarchist party.
Libertarians, constitutionalists, and anarchists form a party.
Three benches of government.
Why not full three parties since half population doesn't vote?
Maybe they will fall in these views.
luke rudkowski
Okay, I like it.
We cast our votes by not voting.
ian crossland
Anarchy just means no government, not no law, correct?
tim pool
I think we're at the point where, without authority, and with no authority.
ian crossland
You could have law, though?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
Like, there's no authority.
So, you as an individual could, and then who's gonna listen to you?
ian crossland
Who's gonna hold the weapons?
tim pool
Well, not weapons, but like... Who would punish you?
amanda milius
That's who will enforce the law.
tim pool
This is why I say that Antifa is not anarchist.
They try to claim they are, but they're not.
luke rudkowski
They're the opposite.
They're like statists.
tim pool
But it's not even that.
If you're a group that has a name and a brand and flies a flag with core tenets and you beat people until they do what you want, you are not an anarchist.
amanda milius
Sounds kind of fascist.
ian crossland
You're violating the non-aggression principle.
luke rudkowski
You're violating the non-aggression principle.
tim pool
It's basic. Anarchy is more like trying to convince someone.
So you go to someone and say, I'm going to try and convince you to do something.
amanda milius
The non-aggression principle.
luke rudkowski
Damn right.
amanda milius
I'd be thrown out of that society in five seconds.
tim pool
Stephen C says, TikTok is nothing but an online insane asylum.
Not in China.
In China, it's very wholesome.
amanda milius
Yeah, true.
luke rudkowski
It's all educational.
amanda milius
You can't even be on after 10pm.
unidentified
What?
luke rudkowski
You're only allowed a certain amount of time on that platform.
amanda milius
Seriously.
tim pool
Jeremy Abrahamson.
Abrahamson says, another thing on the Civil War to bear in mind is that the popular opinion in the North was that the slave states had an unfair influence over the federal government, such as with the Fugitive Slave Act.
But they weren't actually adhering to that.
amanda milius
Well, the Fugitive Slave Act did make it more complicated because it messed with all the... Just push it to the right side.
ian crossland
What were you saying about the Slave Act, Amanda?
amanda milius
Because it took the law on the road so it was very I think it it it it made it more complex because like That meant that in a free state, a slave would be under the law of the state that he came from versus the state he was in, which makes things much more complex and not functional than just having a line and being like, under here is the agriculture world where we require slavery, and over here is the north where we don't.
ian crossland
Who passed the Fugitive Slave Act?
tim pool
It was actually relatively old compared to when the Civil War happened.
It had been around for a while, and it wasn't being enforced.
So slaves would escape in the North, and then the North would just be like, we don't care.
Well, it was a serious issue.
The South was like, the federal government won't actually enforce the law to protect what they viewed as their rights.
And so this was breeding distrust.
amanda milius
That became part of the issue.
ian crossland
So taking an old law and demanding the federal government use the old laws led to a civil war we gotta keep that in
unidentified
mind.
amanda milius
That's not why I'm not saying that's what happened. That's a contributing
like amongst many other issues like that's a contributing issue amongst
others but like that that's something that makes it more complex you're
taking your law on the road
tim pool
If there was no slavery there would not have been a civil war
but the fighting in the cause of it was extremely multi-faceted.
amanda milius
Eventually there is going to be a civil war.
ian crossland
Like there will be now.
There's a law now, what they use to prosecute journalists.
tim pool
Trashin' the joint over there.
ian crossland
There's like a, what is that called?
tim pool
Espionage act.
ian crossland
Yeah, the espionage act.
So if people are starting to appeal to federal government to, hey, use the espionage act on this person.
Like Obama?
amanda milius
Yes, like Obama.
tim pool
Alright everybody, if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share this show with your friends, become a member at TimCast.com.
As I mentioned, comment on a members-only video and then we might pick like five people once per week, like maybe on a Friday.
We're gonna get started probably next week and then we will hit you up and be like, hey, where can we send you something cool?
And, uh, we've got post-its, as I mentioned, that Milo filled out, basically explaining the censorship of YouTube.
They're hilarious.
They're really cool.
And we'll send those out.
There might be, like, eight of them.
Then we've got, you know, Luke's bazunga balloons.
It's just knick-knacks.
corin nemec
Bazunga.
tim pool
Bazunga balloons.
ian crossland
Beautiful.
tim pool
Knick-knacks.
We'll send them out, Joe.
ian crossland
Joe's here, too.
tim pool
Ian's got rocks.
We'll see what you get.
ian crossland
I like this one.
tim pool
So, uh, again, smash that like button.
You can follow the show at TimCastIRL.
You can follow me at TimCast.
Amanda, do you want to shout anything out?
amanda milius
Plot Against the President on DVD makes a really good gift for your boomer parents or grandparents, and it's available on Target, Amazon, Walmart, and you should watch it anyway if you want to know what's happening.
tim pool
Right on!
Corin, you got anything to shout out?
corin nemec
First, I gotta shout you out.
Thanks so much for having me here, and I really appreciate that.
It's been great.
tim pool
Oh, for sure, man.
corin nemec
As far as that goes, you can follow me on Twitter or Instagram.
Those are about the only two I do.
I do have a fan site on Facebook, but it's I am coronymic, the letter I, the letter M,
and my name coronymic spelled like it is. And there you can get updates because I got too
much going on to explain in such a short amount of time. So follow me there and I'll fill you in.
luke rudkowski
That was that was great and extremely entertaining.
Thank you for both of you guys for coming.
My website is lukeuncensored.com.
I did a very interesting video about Dave Chappelle's interview with Oprah, which I think relates to what's happening to Kanye West and Kyrie Irving.
Lots of different things that I think are worth talking about.
Deep down the rabbit hole, I discuss them specifically on lukeuncensored.com.
See you there for the conversation.
And I think after this show, it's official.
We got to have Milo and Amanda on at the same time.
I would love to see them together.
amanda milius
I don't drink.
luke rudkowski
With booze all together in one shot.
amanda milius
I do not drink, so it's not good.
Milo, I love Milo and he's always been very nice to me and I can't wait to hang out with him.
I would love to see that podcast.
I was really hoping I was gonna see him tonight.
tim pool
You're both around Sunday?
amanda milius
Probably.
Yeah, sure.
Fine.
We can do Sunday.
I mean, I live here, so I'll do it.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
That'd be cool.
I also love a good Friday Night Rodeo where Tim is the bull.
Thank you for hosting and letting us ride you all night, Tim.
Wonderful what you do, man.
tim pool
That's right.
ian crossland
Love you.
And great to see you guys.
Serge, you're the best.
unidentified
Love you, man.
ian crossland
It was a good show.
unidentified
It was a good time.
Thanks, guys, for tuning in.
amanda milius
I'm glad I remember the end of it this time.
It was nice.
tim pool
We're going to have clips up all weekend, as we normally do.
Become a member at TimCast.com, and we'll see you all next week.
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