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Milwaukee elections official fired after requesting multiple mail-in ballots.
Here's the simple version of the story.
They think she was trying to prove that it was extremely easy to commit ballot fraud, voter fraud, and so she requested mail-in ballots with fake names and got them and sent them to a Republican and now she's been fired and may face criminal charges.
There you go.
Big news.
ian crossland
Proving how easy it is to commit a crime by committing the crime.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, that's not really a smart thing to do.
Did she explain herself, or like, is there an official explanation to why she did this?
tim pool
I don't know, but...
I think it's good in the end. I would not recommend anyone do something like this,
but now we can see the evidence of how easy it was. She kind of like threw herself on the grenade,
right? Yeah. Because one of the problems with all of this voter stuff is that unless you get hard
evidence, you can see circumstantial evidence, but they just it's always going to be dismissed.
For her to do this?
Okay, now we know it's extremely easy.
We have the whistleblower in Florida claiming it is happening, so now there are questions about ballot harvesting and fake ballots.
So, what's next?
We're gonna come, uh, Tuesday.
Pennsylvania's gonna be locked for two or three days.
We're not gonna know who won.
And then they're gonna come back and be like, oh, we found a bunch of ballots!
And, uh, Fetterman wins.
ian crossland
51-49!
tim pool
You guys wanna take- You mean 50.1 to 49.9.
ian crossland
Yeah, it'll be 50.0001 to 49.9999.
tim pool
I think we need to follow the Constitution and have one vote one election day.
Election day, that's it.
Sorry.
ian crossland
Until it is free software, the voting machines, there's no way.
tim pool
There's no way to prove anything.
unidentified
One day.
tim pool
Make it a holiday.
One day.
No early voting.
No mail-in voting.
No.
You come in.
You vote.
That's it.
ian crossland
But like hand your documents to some rando that does it in a back room somewhere and just trust the process again?
What do you mean?
tim pool
No, you walk up to your paper.
You fill it out.
You stick it in the machine and the machine's locked.
unidentified
Yeah.
luke rudkowski
And there's volunteers from both political parties usually there that watch everything that goes on.
tim pool
Yeah.
ian crossland
They don't see the code in the background.
tim pool
That's why I'm saying no code.
Paper belts.
Paper.
ian crossland
Paper?
luke rudkowski
And a receipt.
ian crossland
Give some people some jobs.
tim pool
Yeah, give some people some jobs.
Paper belts.
What do you guys think's gonna happen on Tuesday, huh?
luke rudkowski
It's going to be interesting.
I do see a lot of postponements, and I do see not a lot of decisions early on.
I mean, it's been like that with the last elections that we've seen.
I think it's fair that we're going to see it again.
tim pool
They're going to go, oh look, all these Democrats are doing so great!
But what I'm hearing is that in many of these key areas, though, there's no backlogged mail, so maybe not this time?
I don't know.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, but did they count it?
They received it, but did they count it?
So I could see Republicans winning, winning, but all the votes aren't in, and then 2 o'clock in the morning, oh, now all the votes are going to be counted here that were mailed in, and mail-in ballots are usually the ones that are Democratic.
danielle dsouza
I saw this funny tweet that was saying how, you know, Fox has already called Arizona for Hobbes.
It's like, I think it just, it depends on what state you're in and what the media does, because I think we're gonna, we are gonna have a big red wave.
Many places, I think we are gonna know who won, but I think Pennsylvania, like, they're already warning us it's gonna take days.
unidentified
Yeah.
danielle dsouza
They're not gonna tell us, so it's like, okay, this is a close race, so I don't know how that's gonna shake out.
I guess if These mail-in ballots show up, I mean, I don't know because Pennsylvania also has, like, they don't have the kind of strict rules that other states have.
So I think Pennsylvania is going to be really questionable.
But I think other states, we're going to see results.
ian crossland
I don't like that, the mail-in process, how they know how many more votes they need to win, or you know after day one how many more votes need to come in to switch to your candidate of your choice, so you can just be like, hold on a second.
unidentified
You know what I'm gonna say.
tim pool
In Florida, in Miami data, here's the latest data, that Republicans are still up about 1,500 votes.
No, no, 2,500 votes.
So that's early.
The Democrats are up in the mail-in votes, but the early votes are like 30k in favor of Republicans.
It's gonna be interesting!
I wonder how long it'll take until someone goes fucking nuts.
Like, I don't know, we might see Republicans win in Oregon or Washington, I think they're saying.
luke rudkowski
New York, even, potentially.
tim pool
New York?
luke rudkowski
Republicans, yeah.
tim pool
Oh, Zeldin, right.
The governor, yeah.
I don't know about Schumer losing, but it could get crazy, man.
could get crazy.
danielle dsouza
Which is why it's like if we have this big red wave, maybe they'll try to save face.
Like oh, Pennsylvania is too close to call.
It's like, I don't know, I think that if it was just such a devastating loss for them
on every front, like, how would they recover?
And that's probably why they're putting out all these articles saying, oh, we have these
big losers on our side.
That's what the Democrats are saying, because they think they don't want to be proven as these like horrible pollsters, because if they get in front of it, even if it's just the last couple days, saying like, oh, it's going to be good for Republicans, then they don't have to act like they were wrong, even though for like the last couple months, they've been saying that this isn't going to happen.
Now they're changing their tune at the last minute.
tim pool
Yep.
Apocalyptic.
ian crossland
No, no.
I mean, it depends on how deep you are in the liberal economic order.
tim pool
It'd be funny if, like, Republicans get, like, a small narrow win.
No one cares.
The news dies down.
Democrats are just like, you know, whatever.
And then nothing really changes because Biden has veto power, and then everyone forgets the midterms happened.
Like, no fanfare, no red wave.
Just, you know, whatever.
That'd be the funniest.
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danielle dsouza
It would be funny if they didn't cover it much.
They just, like, let it pass.
Maybe that would happen.
Either they're gonna totally break down, like, Trump Derangement Syndrome, like, I can't believe this occurred.
Maybe they'll be the election deniers, or they're just gonna pretend it didn't happen and pretend, like, everything's fine.
luke rudkowski
Well, if the Democrats lose, they're gonna be like, it's rigged.
They stole it.
And then if the Republicans lose, they're gonna be like, it's rigged.
It's stolen.
unidentified
And then what?
tim pool
Someone pulls a gun?
I hope not. The Bulwark wrote that their fear is that there's going to be Republicans and Democrats
at polling stations, obviously. There's going to be a state like Texas or something where Republicans
armed. There's going to be poll watchers who think they're watching. They're seeing fraud.
So they get they start telling them to stop. The guy says, fuck you. A fight breaks out.
They struggle. Someone gets shot and then the polling location gets shuttered.
I'm saying like, what happens if a fight breaks out?
They shut down a polling station.
How can we have a legitimate election if polling stations are being shut down?
So the bulwark, you know, we love them, right?
They're saying like, this could be it.
How do we even have the midterms after 2020?
How do you even have an election?
danielle dsouza
I don't want that to happen either but like we were talking about the violence against just anyone wearing a MAGA hat so it's like we're already in a place where there's like this crazy political violence so we don't want that to happen but also I mean what's the solution not to vote like we want people to vote we want people to go out and do that so I mean hopefully things are okay but I don't think we can just let them intimidate us Let's, uh, we'll get off.
tim pool
We've beaten a dead horse, I guess.
We can only sit back and wait.
Tomorrow's Friday will be interesting.
But, uh, you know, you got a book about God, and Ian was trying to ask about that earlier, so... Yeah, yeah, but if you want to ask... You were talking about Occupy Wall Street right before we started.
ian crossland
Do you want to ask that question?
You had some questions about that?
danielle dsouza
Yeah, yeah, no, we can totally talk about both.
The Why God book I actually wrote when I was in high school, so I was 17 when I wrote that book.
So it's been a little while, but I think all of the things apply today.
I'm basically talking about how I think young people have become so lost and so cynical.
Back then it was really atheism, I think, was the big thing.
I would say now it's more like, for a lot of young people, their political thing or spiritualism is their religion.
These woke causes, that's their new religion.
It's kind of like leftism wants to replace the church with basically their own views.
Whereas I think for a lot of right-wingers, it's maybe it's freedom or maybe it's Christianity, something else kind of defines your views, and then you see, you know, politics comes downstream from that.
But I think for the left, for them, that like their cause is number one.
But anyways, so yeah, that was really talking about how I think we need to dive deeper into really exploring, you know, could there be a God?
Could there be a God who cares?
what kind of explains this universe is there a fine-tuned universe with a creator?
But you're asking about Occupy Wall Street. Yeah, I was asking you guys before this,
you know, do you feel like your views have changed or do you feel like your views are the same,
but it's just politics has changed and now they fall on a different spectrum?
luke rudkowski
Well, Occupy Wall Street represented originally an idea that we're pushing back against Barack
Obama and the banker bailouts after the 2008 housing market crisis.
So, you saw a coalescing of Ron Paul, libertarians, leftists, right-wingers even, in some elements that all came together and then, of course, that was taken over.
But originally, it was a great way to debate ideas, have conversations.
People would come down and have huge debates, and it was interesting.
And then a bunch of celebrities came down, and then the police kind of came in and started cracking skulls and got everyone talking about it.
So, I mean, my ideas... I have basic ideas.
I believe in personal freedom and personal responsibility and personal liberty.
They haven't changed.
ian crossland
I changed a little bit.
I went to Occupy Wall Street because I was very upset with the banking industry in general, the way that they used Barack Obama to bail themselves out with our tax money.
I'm still pissed off about it.
I was also a collectivist at the time.
I was very into collectivism, the idea that we together as a group can make things happen, which you can.
It's called a mob.
And I've realized lately it's less about trying to help other people and more about helping myself be the best self, inspire people to help themselves so that people can become their best self.
tim pool
Capitalism.
ian crossland
And capitalism is a great way to do it, oddly enough.
I don't like the idea that the only way to make money in a capitalist system is to take it from someone else or to print more of it and then devalue everyone's.
That's not true.
How else can you acquire money?
danielle dsouza
They really killed the idea of charity because they tax us so much.
People feel like, oh, I've already done everything for others.
I just don't care about people.
It's like, no, actually, we used to have a society where I think where people were much more focused on their community.
And people actually felt close to their neighbors, they felt like, you know, actually know the people that are around my children, and so on.
And so I think there was much more charity involved, people actually getting involved in, you know, hospitals helping out, especially wartime, you know, going out and actually serving.
I think that's so lost, because the government's just ruined it by becoming too large.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
I used to, when I was in New York, I was like, I would just pick up trash.
If I was walking down the street and I saw a piece of trash, I'd pick it up.
It only lasted a day or two.
But I was like, if I could just do that, maybe that's like the first step of inspiring other people to do it.
And then all of a sudden you have a clean city.
tim pool
Cities are disgusting.
And that's the problem.
It's a bunch of goody two-shoes, arrogant elitists who want to tell everyone else how to live, but won't actually clean the shit off their own backyard.
danielle dsouza
Do you guys think a lot of Occupy Wall Street people are, like, right-wingers now?
tim pool
Yes, they are.
danielle dsouza
They are?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So, when I went to the Deplora Ball, I had two people walk up to me, like, they're all big fans, and I was like, really?
I was like, I didn't realize, like, some, like, Trump supporters, and they were like, no, no, no, we're Occupy.
And I was like, you are?
And they were like, yeah, yeah, yeah, we were Occupy Wall Street.
Now we're for Trump.
And I was like, why?
And they were like, well, we were for Bernie, but then Bernie got knocked out, and Trump's the next best thing.
And I was like, okay.
Then I heard that in Anaheim.
There were these three guys that said they were Bernie supporters, because Bernie was a union guy, and Bernie wanted to bring jobs back to this country.
Well, when he got knocked out, they said, Trump's the next best thing.
They got chased, beaten, and spit on.
luke rudkowski
You mean when Bernie got screwed over by Hillary Clinton and robbed.
tim pool
And then dropped to his knees and kissed her feet.
ian crossland
Yeah, when Barack Obama decided to sign the Trans-Pacific Partnership and was planning to basically sell us out to Malaysian oil companies, I don't know if you're familiar with the Investor State Dispute Settlement Clause in the Trans-Pacific Partnership.
It was insane.
It said that if we, as American citizens, discriminated against a Malaysian oil company, said we don't want to buy their oil for whatever reason, it's too dirty, it's too far, it's too expensive, that they could sue our government I don't think Trump's right wing.
we would have to pay as taxpayers the corporation in Malaysia.
And then Barack Obama was fine with that.
And that was the moment I realized there's something nefarious going on.
I started to see a liberal economic order.
And the only people I could see was Bernie that didn't want it.
And then it was Trump.
I don't think Trump's right wing.
I just think he's like this wild liberal guy from the 80s and 90s that's like, couldn't
get into the Democratic Party because they were like co-opted by the liberal established,
tim pool
Well, he's a billionaire.
They'd never vote for him.
ian crossland
Yeah, they wouldn't have him.
They would... And so he hadn't... The other next best option was the Republican Party, but he's, like, could have started his own political party.
He never really struck me as left or right.
He's kind of like an independent businessman.
tim pool
It's Republican or Democrat.
Those are the vehicles.
danielle dsouza
I also think JFK, all these people who used to be liberal, it's like they'd be conservative today.
tim pool
Conservative?
JFK would be like a Nazi by the left standard.
danielle dsouza
I'm just saying, these people who are hardcore leftists, they're not classical liberals.
Of course not.
tim pool
They hate classical liberals.
danielle dsouza
We're classical liberals, actually having discussions and actually believing in things.
Yeah, but I think, you know, it makes sense actually that a lot of people, because, oh, were you guys excited during the GameStop thing?
Oh yeah, of course!
I was so pumped.
I was like, yes!
And I really wanted to really, like, root for them, but I don't know.
It was crazy.
That was so exciting.
I feel like that would have been an exciting time here at the show.
ian crossland
Did you get on the stops?
tim pool
Oh yeah, definitely was.
We made a shirt.
danielle dsouza
I wanted to, but I didn't.
tim pool
I missed that.
We have a shirt.
It's a gorilla holding cash.
ian crossland
Are you in Doge right now?
danielle dsouza
I'm not.
I'm very not knowledgeable about crypto.
I'm like the worst person to ask about crypto.
tim pool
Did I lose all my money yet?
danielle dsouza
I don't have any crypto.
I don't know if I should.
I just, I feel like it's so volatile.
Like Bitcoin was up here, then it's like worth nothing.
I just, I don't know.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, it's a risky game.
ian crossland
It's not the place to make money.
I would not advise it as money making.
danielle dsouza
And then like, you know, Facebook's all like, oh my gosh, everyone's going to be obsessed with Metaverse.
Now it's like, nobody cares about Metaverse.
I don't know.
I just feel like sometimes something becomes a fad.
And then by the time it's a fad is when I've heard about it.
So I'm like, I just don't know if it makes sense, because then it just... Metaverse is coming.
ian crossland
Let's talk about God.
You want to talk about the consciousness and controlling what people think and see.
tim pool
I'm up 12% on graphene.
ian crossland
Hell yes, dude.
tim pool
Yeah.
ian crossland
Graphene.
That's cool.
The metaverse is gonna be, I don't know if it'll, it'll become like an augmented experiential reality where you can see and perceive things you want to see and perceive.
tim pool
Let me freak you out.
They did an experiment where they hooked up these massive powerful magnets to people's brains, to their heads, and then turned them on, and people said they felt the presence of God when they were blasted by like insane amounts of magnetism.
They will put you in their Neuralink metaverse and then they will simulate that feeling and tell you that they are God.
luke rudkowski
They could also change your feelings.
tim pool
Is your mic off?
luke rudkowski
They could also change your feelings and emotions with magnets as well.
danielle dsouza
I heard that's what people said in the 60s when they would take LSD and stuff like oh my gosh this is like a spiritual experience or something it's like I just think that that's crazy I mean this is like acting like something that's obviously like of this world is something spiritual I don't know I mean it's altering your brain I think what's happening is it's always there.
ian crossland
God's always there.
But we become desensitized to it because we have to grab apples to consume, to eat.
We need to stay warm.
But when you take the psychedelic, it strips away the human part and you're just tapped to the animal.
And so you sense it.
tim pool
It's called the God Helmet.
danielle dsouza
And I think the God way to do that would actually be fasting, where the Bible says, you know, take a period of time for fasting so you're not focused on like physical needs, like I'm hungry, like all this stuff.
And I don't know if that's comparable, but I think that's how people who did it for thousands of years are supposed to do the drugs.
ian crossland
And breathing.
unidentified
I was wrong.
ian crossland
Allotropic breathing.
tim pool
Correction.
It's a low-intensity magnetic field.
Very weak magnetic fields made people have mystical experiences in altered states while wearing the god helmet.
ian crossland
Is this transcranial stimulation?
tim pool
I have no idea.
ian crossland
Transcranial magnetic stimulation.
TMS.
TCMS.
I don't think people should do any of this stuff.
tim pool
and the exact same brain. TMS. It says comparison with transcranial magnetic stimulation.
danielle dsouza
Comparison. I don't think people should do any of this stuff. I think people can connect to
unidentified
God without all of this. So you're saying fasting and...
ian crossland
Have you taken psychedelics?
danielle dsouza
No, not necessarily fasting, and no, I have not taken psychedelics.
I just think if we believe there is a God who cares, who's accessible to us, I think through prayer, through all of those things, we can reach Him without any external stimuli on us.
luke rudkowski
There's a lot of theories and also a lot of symbology when it comes—symbolism—when it comes to religion.
Caught myself on that one.
I keep saying symbology instead of symbolism.
What do you think about that theory?
especially when it comes to psychedelic mushrooms, and to religion.
I think Ian knows a lot about this, but there's a theory out there that religion
was kind of made predominantly because of psychedelic mushrooms.
What do you think about that theory?
Have you looked into it?
And I don't know, debate.
danielle dsouza
I don't agree with the theory.
I think that's kind of like people come up with theories like Jesus was gay, you know, these people were all on drugs, everyone's maybe living in like a another world where it's like inception.
I just think it's kind of, it doesn't really make any sense based on any of the text and also based on any third-party accounts if you look into historical accounts of Jesus or the Bible, for example.
I do think that there have been, like, mystics over time, like, that's happened, that's been, like, a thing, but I just don't think that that's, like, the way that we would rely on to access God.
Because today I have a friend, she's, like, super into crystals, astrology, wellness, but in the reality the people selling her all of that crap are people that, like, literally just like buy it on Amazon and like give it to
her and tell her it's going to change her life.
So I don't know about all of this like, you know, crystals and just things like that. I would not promote it.
luke rudkowski
There is power in the placebo that can't be explained by science as well, you know. Yeah, not by the scientific
ian crossland
method.
It can't be replicated.
They don't understand why believing something has a tendency to make it real for your body.
Physiologically, if you think you're sick, that your body would become sick, or if you think you're healthy, your body becomes more healthy.
I think the conscious is very powerful.
It might have something to do with crystals, because your bones are crystal.
They're a crystal called hydroxyapatite.
And crystals tend to vibrate, and if you vibrate one crystal, a crystal across the room will also start to vibrate.
So I'm wondering if there's, like, and sound, you know, sound can vibrate your bones.
And this is, here's a crystal here.
I wonder if there's, like, your thoughts can actually vibrate your body and your crystals and then cause your DNA to Basically your DNA is gonna, they're gonna react to external stimuli, whether that's a vibration, it can turn DNA on and off, so... Bone is primarily hydroxyapatite crystals interspersed with collagen matrix.
tim pool
Really?
65 to 70% of the bone mass is hydroxyapatite.
danielle dsouza
I think my friend would like to think those things make her life better, but I don't know if they have, which is why I'm not sure the placebo effect works, because it's kind of like a girl saying, like, oh my gosh, I really want a boyfriend, and they keep thinking they're going to meet someone, and then they don't.
It's just like, I don't know if you can just, like, make things happen based off of, like, telling yourself.
I mean, I think motivation's good, but it's just like, there's nothing to it.
ian crossland
Last year, I'd been single for a long time, and I asked my mom last year, I was like, tell me I'll find the girl of my dreams.
She was like, You'll find the girl of your dreams.
And then I found her.
Well, she found me.
But she had already found me.
I just didn't know.
I wasn't looking for it until I believed I was going to see it.
Then all of a sudden I'm looking for it.
And I was ready for it when it appeared.
Not that it caused it, but it was that it put me in a state where I was able to see it when it was real.
luke rudkowski
You gotta check those Instagram DMs.
tim pool
That's right.
ian crossland
Always.
Always be watching the chat.
If you're looking for someone, they're out there.
They're looking at you.
tim pool
I know a lot of people in Hollywood believe in magic.
They literally do.
They literally believe in it.
That's why there's like a fear, a karma fear they have.
They always like, you know, they'll give big tips because they're scared that it'll be taken away from them if they do something wrong.
But they genuinely believe they have control over reality.
danielle dsouza
Wow.
They really think they're God, basically, because they're celebrities, and a lot of them became famous out of nowhere.
Like, they did a show as a child, and they're like, oh my gosh, now I'm worth millions of dollars.
It's like, okay, look, that may have happened for you, but most people know.
And so, I think that, also, Hollywood is a cesspool, and they have a lot of weird stuff that goes on there.
Like, just weird stuff, like drugs, sexual stuff, like bad religious things.
luke rudkowski
Satanic pedophiles.
tim pool
They don't think they're God.
They don't believe God exists.
They don't believe that there is a grand order or creator.
They just believe that they have some kind of magic power, influence over reality.
They also believe each other, other people do.
And, not every single person, but I've, like, I would say it's disproportionate.
I mean, it's a hippie lefty thing, too, out in Hollywood, where there are, like, crystals and vision boards and stuff.
So, like, we've seen it.
They think they have magic.
ian crossland
I think of it like a web, like we're all little nodes on a web, on a giant web, and you can move your node, like your body, but you're still stuck in the web.
You can technically vibrate the entire web with your own behavior, but to say that you are the web or that you control the web is kind of nonsense.
You're part of it.
danielle dsouza
I think another problem with it too is it's all about like being like like everything's positive it's like being your best self like manifesting this and that and I think that the first step in realizing like the greatness of God is realizing our own shortcomings and like the gap between us and God like we are so Like, we are tiny ants compared to God.
And I think, like, wellness and all this is basically saying, like, oh, like, we're gonna be, like, we're gonna have this aura.
We're gonna be this and be that.
And I just think that's kind of the opposite of, like, the fear of God.
unidentified
Yeah.
I didn't understand that last thing you said.
danielle dsouza
No, like I think if God is great, if he is all-knowing, he's perfect, he's omnipotent, like I'm not, you know?
And so having this gap between us and God, I think realizing that first is like essential, and if you think, oh, like I basically am God, like we're equals, we're friends, like that's a completely different view of who God is.
tim pool
Imagine an ant.
Climbs out of its little ant hole.
Looks around and says, this is reality.
There is nothing else.
I know there's nothing else because I've not seen anything else, not smelled anything else.
This is all there is.
That's like, to me, atheists.
They're just like, I don't believe that anything else could be, because I looked around and I don't see it.
And I'm kind of like, after a certain point with science, where we were like, hey, did you realize that what we can touch, smell, see, and hear is less than a millionth of reality?
There's radio waves, there's infrared and ultraviolet light we can't even see.
There are so many things that are imperceptible.
That what we can see and experience, even with technology, is microscopic in the grand scheme of things.
ian crossland
Have you pulled up the Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation?
tim pool
Oh, you love the cosmic.
ian crossland
Yeah, this is, I was pretty much agnostic my whole life until age 26.
Radio telescopes.
I'm starting, you're starting to see a web of radiation left over from the Big Bang.
tim pool
Which one?
ian crossland
All these.
This is all different images of this radiation.
This is the universe.
tim pool
Yeah, but Ian, no it's not.
It's not the universe.
The issue is, you see how it's round-ish?
We're making assumptions based off what we can see.
ian crossland
Right, this is the known universe, I should say.
This is what we can see.
tim pool
It's not what we can see.
We're making predictions so we can see it.
I think the known universe that we can see is really, really tiny, and then we project this off of it.
So here's a scary thought.
We believe the universe is expanding.
I think there was new data that came out recently that said it's not, and we were wrong about that, but I don't know enough to elaborate.
If the universe is expanding, and stars and galaxies and everything are moving further and further away, then at a certain point on Earth, humans will be born, and they'll look up and see black for the sky.
No stars, nothing.
They'll see planets, but nothing else.
And they'll assume that there is nothing else.
They will have no information to go off of to believe there is a universe, because there's nothing to look at.
That's crazy.
ian crossland
You're saying that this is an extrapolation and not an actual radio telescope?
tim pool
Yeah, I'm pretty sure there's an extrapolation.
Like, how would we get a picture of the known universe, dude?
ian crossland
Radio telescopes?
I mean, I'm reading about it now.
tim pool
Way too big.
ian crossland
Shows a faint background brightness, glow.
Sure, sure.
Maybe they're extrapolating it to show what they think that means it looks like.
tim pool
That's exactly the point there.
ian crossland
But there is a radiative leftover resonance from the Big Bang.
And it looks like a neural pathway.
And you see it arcing through star systems, like electricity arcs through our heart, or like, I don't know if it's electricity or whatever, but it's causing the heart, like sparking the heart.
It's the same kind of energy.
tim pool
And there are people who do this, they say, you know, human brain neural network.
ian crossland
Oh yeah, yeah.
tim pool
Similar to the cosmic web.
ian crossland
Yeah, that's, and you know things are fractal.
tim pool
Quantum realm.
ian crossland
It's at least evidence that there's God, that that's, that we're like in like a God mind or something, I think.
And that's when I started to think that maybe, maybe there's something out there.
And then I started doing Reiki, and I was like, whoa, you actually have like radiative heat energy coming off you because you're magnetic, because your red blood cells are circulating iron and causing a magnetic field.
I was like, whoa, dude.
tim pool
Yes.
And some people who have more midichlorians can feel the force.
ian crossland
I also was like tripping, not a lot, but I was taking psychedelics, smoking a lot of weed and making internet videos and watching my own eyes for long periods of time, like going into trance, you know, when you're in like flow state and you don't really remember what you said, but you, you're flowing.
Watching myself in that state, I started to sense, I gained control of my senses.
And I thought maybe that's, maybe that's getting in touch with God.
It's getting in touch with yourself.
Or at least that's a good place to start.
Because there's no more bullshit.
You don't get confused by, like, distractive thoughts and patterns and stuff, because you know who you are.
And then you can sense God.
tim pool
I just think it's weird.
Like, I don't know how you can look around at the universe.
You can look around at what we know of the universe.
You can travel the world.
You can learn about, read about history, and then conclude that there's no God.
I think the reality is the people who are atheists tend to be, not always, I know there's educated atheists, a lot of them, but I'm saying the average person who just doesn't believe or is confused just isn't researching, isn't looking.
ian crossland
Yeah, what did you come across in your book?
How do you dive into it?
danielle dsouza
Yeah, I title every chapter a question.
Like, is there a God who cares?
Or can faith and reason be compatible?
Could miracles really happen?
Like, what's the historical proof of Jesus's existence?
So I dive into like a mixture of like science, history, or just kind of like personal questions someone might have about God.
But I do think it's kind of shifted from people who were atheists and looked at science and said there's no God to people who say like, oh, there is a God, but it's kind of just like spiritual or God is kind of different than how we might see God.
And I think, like, the greatness of God is getting diminished over time by young people in their minds.
I think they think, like, I don't know, I think the early pagans in some ways saw it like this.
Like, the earth is God.
There's a sun God.
Like, we are, like, in God or something.
Like, being one with God.
I think that's really different from, like, looking outside of yourself and saying, like, this is, this is God.
And, like, Do you feel a gap in your personal life?
like God, I need to change, I need to strive towards something, definitely, but there is
a gap there.
ian crossland
Do you feel a gap in your personal life?
Do you feel like you are God or that God is part of you?
danielle dsouza
I mean, I think you can accept him for sure, but I wouldn't say that I am God or that that
is the case in any way.
I think we have Him in our lives if we choose to.
I'm Christian, so I think we can, of course, accept Christ into our life.
But I don't think that that would make me him.
I think that would make me like his son or daughter.
So I can follow him and do those things and believe that and be as close to him as I can.
But I still think people who even are very close to God, like Mother Teresa, she experienced the dark night of the soul.
She would write and be like, I feel so lost.
I feel so far from God.
But I think that's something that happens when Satan wants to attack you when you're doing God's work.
So I do think there's like this interesting spiritual battle that goes on between good and evil, and it's not always saying like, oh, I just feel close to God all the time.
And so sometimes you have doubt, sometimes you have hardship in life, and sometimes even Jesus said, you know, Lord, why have you forsaken me?
And so I think people go through different things in life, but I think turning back to God is always like the goal.
ian crossland
I, when I was really becoming like, believing in this, this energy or whatever this is, it was like, I would go into spiraling depression because trying to, trying to, it coexists with this belief in this all powerful superstructure, or at least this ever present structure.
But then also, I have to kill animals to eat to survive.
I've got to, not murder, but I've got to kill these things to survive.
I need to capitalize off of my fellow man.
I need to take their money.
I need to... It felt so antithetical to God, to this peaceful co-creation.
It's not necessarily peaceful, but... You don't take their money.
tim pool
You exchange.
ian crossland
Well, you take my thing, I take your thing.
tim pool
It's called exchange.
unidentified
Yeah.
danielle dsouza
And that's also just part of being in a fallen world.
Like, after the fall, I think that's when we started feeling like, oh, we have to, like, kill animals and eat them and all of those things.
But that's why they're here for us, like, to survive.
But I don't think it was like that if it weren't for, you know, like, sin entering the world.
ian crossland
What do you mean, fallen world?
danielle dsouza
Oh, like, the fall, um, like, from Adam and Eve.
So, like, in the Garden of Eden, they had everything they needed.
Like, food, water, shelter, like, they had each other, like, they were great.
They never, like, needed for anything.
They were, like, with God.
And then, after the fall, that's when all of a sudden it was, like, you know, like, men are gonna have hard backbreaking work, women are gonna have childbirth, like, Like, there are gonna be all these wars, issues, like, food, like, problems.
luke rudkowski
Women, am I right?
tim pool
Right, right, look, you know, Adam, you know, Adam's sitting here.
ian crossland
Patriarchy propaganda.
tim pool
Adam's chillin'.
ian crossland
Eve was badass.
tim pool
Adam's chillin', he's doing his thing, you know, minding his own business.
Eve gets up and she's like, I'm gonna eat that apple.
unidentified
Yeah?
tim pool
And then he's like, what the fuck are you doing?
She's like, I'm eating that apple.
And he's like, but you're not supposed to eat it.
And she ate it.
unidentified
Like, what the fuck dude?
luke rudkowski
Yeah, follow the rules.
ian crossland
The apple was suicide and that's the secret.
They tripped balls, then they realized they were human.
They didn't know they were human before that.
They didn't know they were naked.
tim pool
That's actually one of the conspiracy theories.
I don't know, it's not a conspiracy, but like one of the wild theories that it's a reference to, they say great apes ate psilocybin and then knew, became sentient, realized, and that's why, like, she eats the apple and then, you know, God says, you have become one of us and, you know, they closed themselves because they understood they were naked and shit.
ian crossland
Dude, psilocybin, there's like not much more horrifying than overdosing on psilocybin.
I don't know if you guys have ever overdosed on psilocybin.
tim pool
I've never done psilocybin.
ian crossland
It's not pleasure.
luke rudkowski
No comment.
ian crossland
Dude, it is the darkest, like, twisting nether of, like, what am I destined for death?
Like, Crazy.
tim pool
Like in Doctor Strange when Tilda Swinton like flicks him on the head and then he's like flying through the quantum realm and other dimensions.
ian crossland
And you feel like you're gonna puke the whole time.
Deeper.
luke rudkowski
I said deeper.
ian crossland
It's crazy but a little bit is Excellent.
unidentified
In my opinion.
luke rudkowski
Well, what's his name?
Bill Hicks says you got to take a heroic dose.
ian crossland
Heroic dose.
luke rudkowski
In order to experience God.
danielle dsouza
I also feel like Adam and Eve, they didn't know evil, but they were so curious about what that tree was and what God told them not to eat.
So then he was like, okay, now you know.
Now you know what evil is.
So I also think it's kind of like we always have this curiosity.
Like we want to know more.
We want to like go to the dark side where we're not supposed to go.
And then sometimes it's like, I think that's where just like the trust in God comes from is saying like, you know, maybe I don't need to do that.
Maybe I don't need to know.
tim pool
You get a choice.
You get free will to figure things out.
And one way I've described it is that life is like a sorting algorithm.
That everybody is here and then you choose which path to go on.
And when you die, you get sorted in or you get sorted out.
ian crossland
I've been thinking about doing a, uh, uh, what are they called?
Um, ayahuasca ceremony.
And, uh, but I want to get like a parasite cleanse before I go.
Cause I could imagine doing a deep psychic psychedelic experience, but have like something in my body.
And then I'm having a spiritual battle with myself because of the parasite, but I see it as like a demon, and it's like hell on earth for two days straight.
luke rudkowski
Well, the proper way to do it is to, of course, cleanse right before you do it.
tim pool
That's the way that the shamans... And you should, and we're gonna wrap things up.
Daniela, thanks for hanging out.
It's been a blast.
danielle dsouza
Thank you guys for having me.
This has been really fun.
tim pool
Yeah, it was absolutely great.
Thank you all so much for being members.
We got some more work we still gotta do, because we got this song coming out tomorrow, so losingmymind.com.
Thanks for hanging out, and we'll see you all next time.
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