Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Sunday Uncensored: Amala Ekpunobi Member Podcast: Trans Activists Left Over 60 Bottles Of Urine Outside The EHRC In Disgusting Protest
Aired: 2022-09-11
Duration: 33:32


=== Piss, Logic, and Moral Discretion (06:42) ===

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[00:00:24]  Oh my friends, I hope you're ready for this because these images are going to make you upset.
[00:00:30]  Trans activists left over 60 bottles of piss outside the EHRC and they poured piss all over their body.
[00:00:38]  Because, you know, like, I was thinking, like, how do you convince someone to agree with your cause?
[00:00:42]  I got it.
[00:00:43]  Don't piss on yourself in public.
[00:00:44]  Works every time.
[00:00:46]  I'm trying to think of, like, metaphorically, what were they trying to communicate?
[00:00:49]  Well, let's say, like, as our former leftist, I mean, I guess Tim could do this too, but, like, please explain to me.
[00:00:54]  No, I was never there.
[00:00:55]  Yeah, no?
[00:00:56]  No.
[00:00:56]  I think the first line answers your question.
[00:00:58]  Piss off trannies.
[00:01:00]  P-O-T, so something to do with... I was thinking maybe it was like a bathroom thing.
[00:01:03]  Like, if you're not going to allow us to use whatever bathroom we want, we're going to pee on your street.
[00:01:07]  That's what it is.
[00:01:08]  Oh, yes.
[00:01:09]  I'm still in touch.
[00:01:11]  I still got it.
[00:01:12]  Okay.
[00:01:13]  I'm going to show the images.
[00:01:14]  You guys ready?
[00:01:19]  So like, yes, that may be the case, but why then pour piss on yourself?
[00:01:24]  Oh, what the fuck?
[00:01:26]  Wow.
[00:01:26]  Also, that's the thing.
[00:01:27]  Like, does anyone care that you're like, it's gross that you're doing it to yourself.
[00:01:30]  This is a fetish.
[00:01:31]  Yeah.
[00:01:32]  Yeah, for sure.
[00:01:33]  I feel like this is like, I really want to do this thing, but I need an excuse to do it in public.
[00:01:37]  I've got an idea.
[00:01:38]  I am protecting trans rights.
[00:01:40]  Look at that weird mask too.
[00:01:42]  Where's that thing from?
[00:01:43]  It's like the duck with teeth.
[00:01:44]  Yeah but also it's protecting the mouth like they're not gonna drink the pee this way it's just like pouring it on their body.
[00:01:48]  You know it's really interesting because this whole the whole movement around transgenderism is like I promise it's not a mental illness it's a real thing but also I'm gonna pour pee on myself in the street it's like with the climate change stuff I promise climate change is real also I'm gonna super glue my hands and feet to this chair at your climate summit until you listen to me.
[00:02:06]  Or they're gonna Climate change is real, but I'm going to buy an oceanfront property.
[00:02:10]  Yeah, thank you!
[00:02:11]  Yeah, the Obamas did exactly that.
[00:02:13]  They're all freaking out about climate change.
[00:02:14]  What the fuck are these pictures?
[00:02:16]  This is like a biohazard.
[00:02:17]  Yeah, this is literally a biohazard.
[00:02:19]  I've heard that urine is sterile.
[00:02:21]  You see, hold on, hold on.
[00:02:22]  This is why, this is why, you know, I'm saying we need police.
[00:02:27]  It's an understatement, but yeah, we do.
[00:02:29]  No, no, it's simple, because I ain't touchin' that piss person.
[00:02:33]  Someone's gotta go and remove them and the piss, and it ain't gonna be me.
[00:02:37]  I will pay a man to put on a uniform, give him a badge.
[00:02:40]  Biohazard.
[00:02:41]  So Lydia, it's not sterile, you're saying?
[00:02:42]  No, so I was looking it up the other day, and it's not sterile.
[00:02:44]  It's just a lot less dirty than people think.
[00:02:46]  I would never recommend drinking it.
[00:02:48]  Or, for example, pouring it on yourself.
[00:02:50]  It's a piss fetish.
[00:02:50]  Remember that monkey pox guy who said he was guzzling piss?
[00:02:52]  Yeah.
[00:02:53]  What?
[00:02:53]  Yeah.
[00:02:54]  He just did that because he liked it.
[00:02:55]  He said he was going to piss orgies and he said he drank a gallon of piss.
[00:02:59]  Oh, okay.
[00:03:00]  Oh, yeah.
[00:03:00]  It's just a fetish.
[00:03:01]  And then he got monkey pox.
[00:03:02]  Shocking.
[00:03:03]  Like, dude.
[00:03:04]  Surprisingly.
[00:03:04]  Yeah.
[00:03:05]  Look.
[00:03:05]  Oh my gosh, I couldn't behave in a deranged way and there were consequences to my actions?
[00:03:09]  What?
[00:03:10]  I was talking about this on my second channel.
[00:03:13]  And this is an example of why moral logic doesn't work and value logic is what we actually expect.
[00:03:22]  And so what I mean by that is, moral logic is... I'm sorry, not value logic, value morals.
[00:03:28]  Logic-based morals versus value-based morals.
[00:03:30]  I keep saying it wrong.
[00:03:34]  More logic-based morals is like, okay, we think discrimination based on innate characteristics is wrong.
[00:03:40]  Therefore, we can't segregate.
[00:03:41]  Everyone goes, okay.
[00:03:43]  And then someone says, that also means you can't segregate bathrooms between men and women.
[00:03:47]  That's logic.
[00:03:48]  It's like, if you can't segregate based on innate characteristics, then you need one bathroom for everybody.
[00:03:53]  Right.
[00:03:53]  Well, hold on there a minute.
[00:03:55]  That's not what we meant.
[00:03:56]  We have value-based morals, meaning we don't value racism, but we do value sex segregation.
[00:04:01]  That's not logic, that's values.
[00:04:03]  So when you actually implement a logical moral, a moral logic system, you'll get people who are like, I can use whatever bathroom I want because you can't segregate based on innate characteristics.
[00:04:14]  And then they go and pour piss on themselves.
[00:04:16]  And what do you do?
[00:04:16]  It's a protest.
[00:04:17]  You say you have a right to protest.
[00:04:18]  Well, bro, I don't know if I think a protest includes the right to pour urine on yourself in the street.
[00:04:23]  You know what I mean?
[00:04:24]  There's a part of me that wants to be like, they're pouring it on themselves, so... It's splashing all over the ground.
[00:04:30]  They're putting bottles everywhere.
[00:04:31]  It's a biohazard.
[00:04:32]  Right.
[00:04:32]  True.
[00:04:33]  What city are they doing this in?
[00:04:35]  Right.
[00:04:35]  I think it's in London.
[00:04:36]  Did they target a specific building?
[00:04:38]  Like, is there a reason?
[00:04:41]  Yeah, the EHRC.
[00:04:41]  It's the Equality and Human Rights Commission.
[00:04:44]  Oh, so the people who are in your corner, but not enough.
[00:04:47]  Right, not enough.
[00:04:48]  It's never enough.
[00:04:49]  I'm just saying, I think this is the big issue right here, is that we need to recognize we all want value morals and not logic morals.
[00:04:58]  So, the other day we had Corey Mills on the show, and he said he thought it should be, I think he said illegal, right?
[00:05:03]  He said that books depicting sexual images should not be allowed to be shown, be available to kids.
[00:05:09]  Right, he's introducing legislation to that effect.
[00:05:11]  Yes, and I said, does that include text and image?
[00:05:13]  He said, yes.
[00:05:14]  And I said, okay, the Bible has texts.
[00:05:16]  Slippery slope.
[00:05:17]  That's about, so, and he was like, no, that, that, the Bible's fine.
[00:05:19]  And I'm like, but the Bible has Ezekiel 2320 that talks about the emissions and the girth of a man and the woman and what she liked about it.
[00:05:26]  And then That's awesome, by the way.
[00:05:29]  And he said, he was like, well, it's not showing images.
[00:05:31]  I'm like, okay, so images are worse.
[00:05:33]  But so the issue is, if you're saying the Bible should be allowed, even though it talks about emissions that have horses and, you know, what is it?
[00:05:42]  The penis is the size of donkeys and the emissions of horses.
[00:05:44]  Jesus, that's in the Bible.
[00:05:45]  Yeah, it's in the Bible.
[00:05:47]  If you're going to say that's okay for kids, But, like, a book about gender transition is not okay, you're not talking about moral logic.
[00:05:55]  Because the logic is, there are some subjects, moral logic would be, some subjects need parental discretion.
[00:06:01]  Well, okay then, the Bible or the gender book, right?
[00:06:03]  No, no, no, no, the gender book is banned.
[00:06:05]  Okay, well, that's not logical.
[00:06:06]  It's not consistent.
[00:06:08]  Right.
[00:06:08]  It's value-based.
[00:06:10]  We value the Bible and its messages.
[00:06:11]  We don't value gender ideology.
[00:06:13]  If there were pictures in the Bible, it might be a different story.
[00:06:15]  If there was people sucking each other off in the Bible, it probably wouldn't be accessible.
[00:06:20]  What about a book that said, John then put the penis in the mouth and blah blah blah, and it was text?
[00:06:25]  Which happens.
[00:06:25]  It's not as accessible to three.
[00:06:27]  That's where the conversation went, is that three-year-olds can't read yet.
[00:06:30]  Well, some of them can, but assuming that young people, the imagery is more accessible.
[00:06:34]  Should a ten-year-old be able to grab a book that depicts a lesbian sucking a dildo of another lesbian?
[00:06:39]  I don't think so.
[00:06:40]  Not in a government school.
[00:06:41]  But in text.

=== Why Ban the Gender Book? (03:31) ===

[00:06:43]  No.
[00:06:43]  Not like government school, man.
[00:06:47]  Why?
[00:06:47]  So you have the story of Sodom and Gomorrah.
[00:06:49]  They wanted to rape the two angels or whatever, and then God blows the fucking city up.
[00:06:53]  That was Sodom and Gomorrah, yep.
[00:06:55]  So exciting.
[00:06:56]  Isn't this all in the parents' wheelhouse to introduce that to their children?
[00:06:59]  That's where I go.
[00:07:00]  I'm sort of like, school should focus on mathematics, the arithmetic, the writing, the reading, the science, and you leave everything else out, your parents can introduce that.
[00:07:07]  Yes, I agree. 100%.
[00:07:09]  However, when you have someone who's very religious and they're like, the Bible should be allowed in schools, I say, well, okay, then what about books that have other, like, what about leftist books on sex?
[00:07:18]  Well, I guess to that person, I say, well, then sign your kid up to a Christian school.
[00:07:21]  And you know, that's where you'll find somebody that supports your values.
[00:07:25]  Just keep out of public schools?
[00:07:26]  It's one of the things that I think France sort of gets right in a weird way, and I won't stand by that super firmly, but their idea of like, division between religion a freedom from religion so like when you go to public schools in France you can't wear a cross but you're also not supposed to wear like headscarves like it's it's everybody's religion is out and so we have this divorce from it and so I assume just like you wouldn't have a bible there theoretically if it extended to sexual politics then you also wouldn't have these graphic novels that have
[00:07:55]  Right and no Quran and no yeah like that is more morally logical but I think what happens is that we expect certain exceptions because of like how we view culture like we are a Christian nation in a lot of ways.
[00:08:07]  Oh yeah yeah who was it?
[00:08:08]  I don't think so.
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[00:10:01]  Lot banged his daughters and had kids with them.
[00:10:04]  Yeah.
[00:10:04]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:10:05]  That was a crazy thing, man.
[00:10:06]  There are crazy stories in the Bible and I don't think you would find a single parent who's ready and willing to read these weird segments from the Old Testament.
[00:10:13]  They're all in the Old Testament.
[00:10:14]  For sure.

=== Parental Discretion Advised (15:31) ===

[00:10:15]  To their children.
[00:10:15]  That's insanity.
[00:10:16]  And there are no graphic pictures and they're not being pushed on these young children.
[00:10:20]  But the question is, are the books allowed in school?
[00:10:23]  But what school, right?
[00:10:25]  Should a public school allow leftist sexual ideology only in written format, No?
[00:10:31]  I would say no.
[00:10:32]  Then should they allow the Bible?
[00:10:33]  I would say no.
[00:10:34]  I think that's just at the parent's discretion.
[00:10:36]  The school does the school's job.
[00:10:37]  I'd rather have both out than have one in, right?
[00:10:39]  Right.
[00:10:40]  Agreed.
[00:10:40]  And I think that we also forget that a lot of leftist ideologies, just like if you were to take your kid to a Christian school, these things all get introduced early.
[00:10:48]  I think part of it is you leave it up to the parent's discretion because they know when their child is ready to handle some of these conversations, both religion and in terms of sexual identity or sexual behavior.
[00:10:59]  Yeah, the Bible and gender stuff and it is supplementary to education if we're talking about public schools.
[00:11:05]  So I think that's something that is totally within the parent's purview to decide on.
[00:11:09]  I think some of it is a lot of left education theory, like when they talk about like absence policy, they're like, if we don't talk about sex ed, then these Christian kids whose parents talk about absence will never get this information ever.
[00:11:20]  And that's just not true in the day and age of the internet.
[00:11:23]  Like if a kid has a question and they have the internet, they can figure out an answer.
[00:11:26]  And that's also a danger.
[00:11:27]  Yeah.
[00:11:28]  But I think We see the same thing happening across the board, right?
[00:11:31]  Like if we don't introduce it in school, there's a chance that kids who need the information won't get it, and that's fundamentally not true.
[00:11:36]  Yeah, and there's so many other subjects you could apply that to.
[00:11:39]  You know, kids might not know about transgender people if you never introduce it to them.
[00:11:42]  Kids might not know how to file their taxes, but we don't do that.
[00:11:45]  We don't even do that.
[00:11:46]  We don't have a requirement for financial literacy.
[00:11:48]  It doesn't make it your job.
[00:11:51]  What was sex ed like for you guys in school?
[00:11:52]  How did they introduce it?
[00:11:55]  If I remember correctly, they did it in a biology class and it was very much like, this is how babies are created.
[00:12:03]  If you are going to engage in this activity, wear a condom, and that was it.
[00:12:07]  There was no talk of, here's how other sexualities engage in sex.
[00:12:10]  There was nothing about any of that.
[00:12:12]  What grade was it?
[00:12:15]  I really don't know.
[00:12:16]  I was in 5th grade.
[00:12:17]  I was in 4th.
[00:12:18]  I remember 5th and 4th being like puberty oriented.
[00:12:21]  So like, here's what a period is.
[00:12:22]  I don't know what the boys talked about.
[00:12:24]  And then I remember it being in high school and I can't remember if it was probably freshman year or sophomore year.
[00:12:28]  And then it was much more like, these are condoms.
[00:12:30]  This is how this works.
[00:12:31]  You're 9 to 11 in 5th grade.
[00:12:33]  You just gotta bring the kids to the farm.
[00:12:34]  There you go.
[00:12:35]  That'll do it.
[00:12:36]  Don't worry about sex.
[00:12:37]  Just bring them to the farm.
[00:12:38]  Watch that big red thing come out of the tip of the dick of a donkey or something.
[00:12:42]  Shit's crazy.
[00:12:44]  If you have a dog that, like, you breed, or just generally, like, refer to things by the anatomically correct name, like, one of the problems that I think both sides have is that they just make everything weird and taboo, and you have to talk about it a certain way, and, like, you just need to open it so your kid can ask questions and get accurate information.
[00:12:59]  Do schools, like, here's the broader question, should schools do sexual education?
[00:13:03]  Great question.
[00:13:03]  Is that something that should be mandatory in schools?
[00:13:05]  Maybe it's parents.
[00:13:05]  Is that the job of schools?
[00:13:06]  It's the parents' job.
[00:13:07]  But the thing is, Let's go with government here, but like they then think parents who don't want to talk about those things from their kids are doing their kids a disservice and putting them in danger.
[00:13:16]  They feel entitled to insert themselves into this.
[00:13:19]  I stand by it.
[00:13:19]  If your kid has a question, the internet is there.
[00:13:22]  I thought it was cool that they handed out condoms in elementary school.
[00:13:25]  It was, I didn't really understand much about it during sex ed.
[00:13:28]  They gave all the girls condoms.
[00:13:29]  That's, that's terrifying.
[00:13:31]  Like if a kid didn't know, if a girl didn't know, and then she had sex at fourth grade, Yeah, fourth grade, I think, or fifth grade.
[00:13:37]  The boys didn't get condoms, but they gave the girls condoms after the sex ed class.
[00:13:40]  Also, isn't that just teaching it's their responsibility and men don't have accountability?
[00:13:44]  Like, I thought that's anti-feminist.
[00:13:45]  Yeah, I wanted a condom.
[00:13:46]  I was mad.
[00:13:48]  I don't know what they gave boys when I was in fifth grade.
[00:13:50]  I know they handed out, like, tampons.
[00:13:51]  Yeah, the girls got tampons.
[00:13:53]  But that's because that's actually a time period when a lot of girls start their period.
[00:13:56]  Well, some parents complained.
[00:13:58]  That's dumb.
[00:13:59]  They said that the parents should have been given the tampons, not the little girls.
[00:14:03]  Some religions don't even allow women to use them, so it's like having a school be the arbiter of sex education is such a problematic thing for so many different reasons.
[00:14:13]  But if your religion has a strong feeling about it, you should be having these conversations at home early.
[00:14:17]  It's simple, it's simple.
[00:14:17]  The parents should get no say, all kids should be put on puberty blockers, and then you never have to talk about it.
[00:14:26]  That's a good skit.
[00:14:30]  Like the real reason for puberty blockers is that adults are too awkward to talk to sex about their kids.
[00:14:34]  It's like, Dad, can you tell me about where babies come from?
[00:14:39]  Um, well, uh, When a man, uh, you know what?
[00:14:44]  Take this pill.
[00:14:45]  Yeah, there you go.
[00:14:46]  Don't worry about it.
[00:14:46]  You'll never have to worry about it.
[00:14:47]  Don't worry about it.
[00:14:48]  Just take the pill.
[00:14:49]  If a kid, if a girl in elementary school didn't know about pregnancy and had sex in middle school and then got pregnant.
[00:14:55]  Sure.
[00:14:55]  That then we would have failed that kid as a society.
[00:14:59]  Where are her parents?
[00:15:00]  No, no, no.
[00:15:00]  Hold on.
[00:15:01]  Single parent.
[00:15:02]  One of them's just a, just a loser.
[00:15:03]  I don't know.
[00:15:04]  What's the worst case scenario?
[00:15:05]  Do you think there are post pubescent children who are like, I have no idea what I'm doing right now.
[00:15:11]  We're just driven to do this thing we're doing!
[00:15:14]  Oh no, a baby's happening!
[00:15:17]  I think they might not be aware of the likelihood of getting pregnant and thinking it's just a frivolous thing, but the question then becomes, is it the school's obligation when things like that happen?
[00:15:27]  Like, we have truancy laws for fucked up parents who don't send their kids to school because we want those kids to go to school.
[00:15:32]  It's the same thing for sex education.
[00:15:34]  Also, this is another argument to have big families, because if you have a fifth grader who doesn't know, is never around anyone who's pregnant, who has a baby, like, you have no natural way to have these conversations.
[00:15:44]  So yeah, maybe you are having to either skip the conversation or very awkwardly be like, I feel like you're not ready for it, but I have to tell you this is how this works.
[00:15:52]  Like, We separate ourselves from so many stages of life because of modern culture and the, like, denial of the importance of family that, like, we don't have a natural way to be like, oh yeah, your aunt Linda is having a baby and do you have any questions about it?
[00:16:05]  You know, from an early age it's always like...
[00:16:08]  Well, if we just ignore it, it won't happen.
[00:16:09]  And then if it does happen, we have to pretend like it's actually someone else's fault.
[00:16:13]  Right.
[00:16:15]  Or you could not teach your kids and then they'll grow up to pour urine all over themselves.
[00:16:19]  Yeah.
[00:16:20]  Cause they don't know if you don't teach them.
[00:16:22]  Like it's not inherently obvious that a fucking is pregnant.
[00:16:26]  Right.
[00:16:26]  I went to South America for a while and I was teaching, I was talking to the kids and all these like images.
[00:16:31]  It was in Belen and Iquitos in Northeast Peru in the jungle.
[00:16:35]  And they were pooping in the river and then drinking the water.
[00:16:38]  They didn't know.
[00:16:38]  They were never educated.
[00:16:39]  It's not innate.
[00:16:40]  You don't know, you don't know.
[00:16:41]  Right.
[00:16:41]  I agree.
[00:16:43]  I mean, it's going to come up in biology class regardless.
[00:16:46]  You have to have discussions about reproduction.
[00:16:48]  It's just how far does that conversation go?
[00:16:51]  Don't eat shit.
[00:16:52]  Don't do that.
[00:16:53]  Don't die.
[00:16:54]  Try not to.
[00:16:54]  Oh, they were pissed when they found out.
[00:16:56]  We told them.
[00:16:57]  They threw garbage on the mayor's front lawn.
[00:17:00]  They were fucking rioting.
[00:17:01]  Are you serious?
[00:17:02]  This is why you're all sick?
[00:17:03]  They were like, we want to drink shit!
[00:17:04]  You're treating us like garbage!
[00:17:05]  They didn't know that they were being treated so shittily until we told them.
[00:17:10]  Let them drink shit, bro.
[00:17:11]  Shit went sideways when they found out.
[00:17:12]  This is what I'm saying.
[00:17:13]  Look, so the other day we were talking about these lefties are desperately trying to sterilize
[00:17:17]  their kids and abort their kids.
[00:17:20]  And the right is trying to stop them.
[00:17:23]  Why?
[00:17:23]  Because they want more leftists?
[00:17:24]  The right should be coming on saying thank you so much for what you're doing for this country and this world by terminating your genetic line.
[00:17:31]  I think it's like, you don't know how that kid's gonna pan out.
[00:17:34]  We're fighting for the innocence of a malleable mind being shaped into something that it's never cognizant of.
[00:17:39]  Like Jazz Jennings is such a perfect example.
[00:17:42]  Her mother says, I've known Jazz was trans since she was two years old.
[00:17:45]  At that point, you might as well treat Jazz as if she is a girl.
[00:17:50]  That's all she's ever known.
[00:17:52]  That's all she's ever been cognizant of.
[00:17:53]  And she's been robbed of a real life.
[00:17:56]  Well, she's also known eating lots of food.
[00:17:58]  Yeah, but is that a side effect of the sheer mental turmoil?
[00:18:03]  Yeah, dude.
[00:18:04]  Your body is rejecting itself, essentially.
[00:18:07]  I don't like that the mom said she knew she was a girl.
[00:18:11]  It's more like, I thought she was a girl since she was two.
[00:18:13]  Because that's not a piece of knowledge.
[00:18:15]  They're saying, I know.
[00:18:16]  Dwayne Wade, whose kid now is 15, getting their name legally changed.
[00:18:19]  He says, I've known since they were three years old.
[00:18:21]  Fox News featured another family that said, I know since my kid was one.
[00:18:25]  It's crazy.
[00:18:25]  It's also like, don't you accept your kids the way they are?
[00:18:30]  Do we have to ascribe all these?
[00:18:32]  It's this weird thing where they're like, gender stereotypes are bad, unless you're a boy who may think they're a girl and then will let you wear crazy heavy makeup and participate in drag shows.
[00:18:42]  It doesn't make any sense unless it's supporting their narrative.
[00:18:47]  You know what the crazy thing is?
[00:18:50]  Like this picture right here, right?
[00:18:51]  See this?
[00:18:53]  They try to show people, trans people looking and passing, like looking like a female.
[00:19:01]  And then you look at the average trans person, and it's like, they don't.
[00:19:03]  They've been lied to.
[00:19:05]  They're being lied to.
[00:19:06]  And that's another trick with kids.
[00:19:07]  They're saying, you know what, look at adults when they transition.
[00:19:10]  It's not looking very realistic.
[00:19:11]  The earlier you get your child to do this, the smoother the transition is going to be for them.
[00:19:15]  Here's an example.
[00:19:17]  This one was very famous.
[00:19:19]  Feminist frequency.
[00:19:20]  Now, obviously, the drawings are all very nice.
[00:19:23]  Stylized, yeah.
[00:19:24]  They made them look like great, pretty cartoon characters.
[00:19:26]  But you want to look at this individual on the left.
[00:19:28]  That's a picture of a young blonde woman, right?
[00:19:31]  Here's what the individual actually looks like.
[00:19:33]  It is an adult human male.
[00:19:36]  Obese.
[00:19:37]  And you see what they do.
[00:19:39]  So they want this fictionalized version of themselves.
[00:19:43]  Make them look shorter.
[00:19:44]  And so they do these depictions where they're like, if you're trans, this is you.
[00:19:47]  Is it though?
[00:19:49]  But then that person sees this drawing, looks in the mirror, doesn't see that, and becomes more anxious and depressed.
[00:19:54]  Like, it is, it honestly seems like a form of torture to me to be constantly told that, like, if you just take more drugs, if you put on more makeup, if you try harder, you will eventually live this fantasy that you have created for yourself that is so disturbing.
[00:20:08]  I mean, in some ways it'll, I know way back when they used to align it to, like, body image disorders, uh, because they just can't accept and see themselves the way they are, and that's heartbreaking.
[00:20:17]  That's, that's terrible.
[00:20:18]  Go and look at the trans subreddit and someone will post a picture of themselves on hormones and they'll take a photo where they move their shoulders and turn their face to try and look as feminine as possible because dudes have big shoulders and square jaws.
[00:20:32]  And then all the comments are, you're so beautiful, oh my god I wish I was as pretty as you.
[00:20:37]  Liars.
[00:20:37]  Exactly.
[00:20:38]  They're all liars.
[00:20:39]  It's misery loves company.
[00:20:40]  It's so bad.
[00:20:41]  And then you go through this whole process thinking that's what's going to make you finally feel comfortable in your body and then you have a body that no longer functions and you're still uncomfortable with.
[00:20:49]  Yep.
[00:20:49]  It's like no, it's no wonder the suicide rates are as high as they are.
[00:20:53]  This is another example of experimental medicine, that they're doing this to kids for profit.
[00:20:57]  And you have other countries saying, stop it, stop it.
[00:21:00]  Like France, Sweden, they've all come out and said, we are not doing this for anybody under the age of 18.
[00:21:04]  And the U.S.
[00:21:05]  is like, oh, so sorry.
[00:21:07]  We're too busy with lobbyist money.
[00:21:08]  We are so progressive.
[00:21:09]  You guys are going backwards.
[00:21:12]  My favorite thing was that the meme that came out of it was that somebody took the actual picture and created the real version.
[00:21:19]  That's terrible.
[00:21:22]  I really dislike the cartoonization of people for beauty.
[00:21:26]  I don't like plastic surgery for cosmetic reasons.
[00:21:31]  I see older, like Nancy Pelosi, all these, like people are supposedly leaders in our world are like cutting their faces up.
[00:21:36]  That's how you Kamala was going to be vice president.
[00:21:38]  Cause she disappeared for a minute and then came back with like Tell me these people will not go in the metaverse.
[00:21:44]  Like, I'm telling you, this obese male who wishes they were this petite, short, blonde girl is going in the metaverse as that.
[00:21:53]  And then you're going to be in the metaverse, and you're going to meet a cute, young, blonde girl, and you're going to be like, hey there, sexy.
[00:21:58]  And then the guy's going to be at home going like, what's going on there, sexy?
[00:22:02]  It started to infiltrate dating apps.
[00:22:05]  Catfishing!
[00:22:06]  You'll see a lot of makeup, heavy makeup, and it turns out it's a trans person.
[00:22:10]  It was pretty rare five years ago.
[00:22:13]  Dude, on porn sites, I was watching porn.
[00:22:15]  A fucking ad came up before the video, like a pre-roll.
[00:22:18]  It was a trans guy jerking it!
[00:22:20]  Or a cross-dresser.
[00:22:21]  I was like, this is not... I'm on straight porn.
[00:22:24]  Ads are algorithmically fed to you.
[00:22:26]  It's the same fucking trans ad.
[00:22:28]  I don't know why.
[00:22:28]  I don't know if it's trans or if it's just a guy with a wig.
[00:22:31]  It looks like a woman's face, but he's got his big dick.
[00:22:34]  It normalizes it.
[00:22:36]  It's fucking freakish brainwashing shit to do to someone.
[00:22:39]  The problem is that on dating apps, trans people don't say they're trans.
[00:22:44]  That's dishonest and they should be banned.
[00:22:46]  Their account should be banned if they do that.
[00:22:47]  But who's that like trans YouTuber who was like, if you don't go on a date with a trans person, you're transphobic.
[00:22:53]  Okay, I don't give a shit.
[00:22:54]  I feel like that's not getting traction.
[00:22:56]  What are you talking about?
[00:22:57]  Dude, I am not so insecure that if you call me a transphobic, I'll go, no, I'm not.
[00:23:01]  No.
[00:23:01]  You're like, okay.
[00:23:02]  Call me whatever the fuck you want, dude.
[00:23:03]  I ain't sucking dick.
[00:23:04]  Would you want someone dating you because if they didn't, it's like that they're a bigoted person?
[00:23:08]  Like what are you talking about?
[00:23:11]  Why won't this racist?
[00:23:12]  I gotta go on my courtesy three dates and then I can break it off for other reasons.
[00:23:16]  That way I'm not like that's terrible.
[00:23:18]  I am a machine.
[00:23:19]  And I mean the hard part and the hard admission about this is you are opening yourself up to violence.
[00:23:23]  Just really think about that.
[00:23:24]  You date a man and you go on multiple dates with him and all of a sudden you're in the bedroom and suddenly there's something there.
[00:23:30]  And he beats you up.
[00:23:31]  I don't know, like, you're opening yourself up.
[00:23:33]  They write about it.
[00:23:34]  There was a viral blog post where they said how to trick a man and how to have sex without them realizing it and stuff like that.
[00:23:41]  It's unbelievable.
[00:23:41]  It feels like it's not getting traction, that whole, like, hey, you won't date me, trans person, because you're afraid.
[00:23:48]  I felt like it just fell on its face, that guilt tactic.
[00:23:51]  That's not for lesbians.
[00:23:54]  The lesbians are being attacked relentlessly still to this day for refusing to suck dick.
[00:23:59]  Like a trans woman?
[00:24:01]  Trans lesbians are men who identify as women who like women and so they transition and then go to lesbians and say, let's hook up and they're like, I don't like men and they're like, I'm a woman you bigot!
[00:24:14]  And then they're like, you're a transphobe, you're a bigot, you're a TERF.
[00:24:18]  I don't remember if you guys, I don't know if you guys remember this, but there was a time when it was, like, considered to be really terrible toxic masculinity to be like, oh, I'm gonna turn a lesbian, like, I'm gonna, whatever, like, how is this not the same thing?
[00:24:29]  It's the exact same thing.
[00:24:30]  It's the exact same thing.
[00:24:31]  It's like, the ideology is eating itself alive.
[00:24:35]  Because it's full of logics, like, a wholesome fallacy, like, it doesn't make any sense.
[00:24:39]  The guys wouldn't break.
[00:24:41]  Like there is a fantasy to having sex with a lesbian and then she realizes like, oh dick's pretty good.
[00:24:45]  Like that's a cool fantasy.
[00:24:47]  It's like in my lizard brain.
[00:24:48]  But I don't guilt women into it.
[00:24:50]  I would never be like, you won't, you won't do it because you're afraid of guys.
[00:24:53]  Like fuck that shit.
[00:24:54]  And so the same thing is like, if you think of yourself, you're a man who thinks of yourself as a male.
[00:24:59]  A phallophobe.
[00:25:00]  You're a phallophobe!
[00:25:01]  Suck my dick or you're a bigot!
[00:25:04]  To the same point, if you are a man who identifies as a woman who wants to date a lesbian, you have this weird trump card now that if she doesn't do that, then she is not only probably a bad lesbian, she's also a transphobe.
[00:25:18]  That's a terrible way to try and get someone to sleep with you.
[00:25:20]  That's coercion.
[00:25:21]  That's sexual assault.
[00:25:23]  These phallophobic women, you know?
[00:25:25]  I think all women have phallophobia.
[00:25:29]  Ladies, I think it's time to admit that men have won the battle of the sexes.
[00:25:36]  Nobody does womanhood better than men.
[00:25:39]  It's like some big fat 50 year old guy puts on a wig, walks up to a woman and is like, You better suck my dick or you're transphobic.
[00:25:45]  Oh my gosh.
[00:25:45]  She's like, no.

=== Men's Scent and Mate Selection (06:42) ===

[00:25:47]  And he's like, transphobic.
[00:25:47]  But question for you guys.
[00:25:49]  What about the transgender women who actually pass?
[00:25:52]  Like you saw them walking through a room.
[00:25:54]  That's a woman.
[00:25:55]  Downstairs is woman.
[00:25:57]  Blair White, for instance.
[00:25:59]  Beautiful woman.
[00:25:59]  Blair White could be a good example.
[00:26:01]  A guy that's a trans woman, but hot from a distance.
[00:26:04]  I was like, oh, that's a sexy girl.
[00:26:05]  And I was like, oh, it's Blair.
[00:26:06]  Mansmell is always Mansmell.
[00:26:07]  Man smell is always man smell.
[00:26:08]  There's no question about it.
[00:26:09]  No, but that's pheromones.
[00:26:11]  You can't get around that.
[00:26:12]  Dudes who like trans people who are into a male, they are gay.
[00:26:19]  Call it whatever you want.
[00:26:21]  They're dudes who like penis.
[00:26:22]  I don't care if you want to call it gay or not gay or whatever.
[00:26:25]  The fact is, trans women smell like dudes.
[00:26:30]  So even if she's looking like Barbie and there's no penis, you're like, I can smell a man.
[00:26:37]  I'll tell you this, when I was younger, like there's something confusing.
[00:26:40]  It's like, it smells weird.
[00:26:42]  Like what is going on?
[00:26:42]  And then you're like, oh shit.
[00:26:44]  But I don't think I've ever encountered a person that passed.
[00:26:48]  I don't know that I have either.
[00:26:50]  You wouldn't know, that's the thing.
[00:26:52]  The voice always gets you too.
[00:26:54]  I'm like, oh, okay.
[00:26:54]  The closest I've ever seen are young children when I worked at a school.
[00:26:58]  Like, and that is, it makes you uncomfortable because you like, you don't want to sexualize children, right?
[00:27:03]  And like, especially really small kids, pre-pubescent, like they all kind of look the same, but also like, you can still tell.
[00:27:08]  I would see like this one kid in particular in a skirt and be like, I just know, I just know this is off.
[00:27:13]  There are trans people who transition, like even Jazz Jennings looks like a dude.
[00:27:18]  Transitioning from before puberty, it's because prenatal testosterone plays a role in development.
[00:27:24]  You can't do anything about it.
[00:27:28]  Dude, a lot of these trans women undergo surgeries and prosthetics and it doesn't look natural.
[00:27:35]  It just doesn't work.
[00:27:38]  But I think that's why they have to embrace like the drag style of makeup and like it's really overdone because there's no way to really make it work.
[00:27:45]  So if it's over the top and it's the crazy false eyelashes and we make that it's like If you get straight women to that too, or like cisgendered women, then it's starting to blur the lines.
[00:27:54]  For me, there's a bit of an overlap from like a really well done transgender surgery and like an Instagram baddie with too much face work.
[00:28:01]  Yeah, I totally know what you mean.
[00:28:02]  I could get confused.
[00:28:03]  You guys have smelled pillow, like after a dude sleeps on it.
[00:28:07]  Yeah.
[00:28:07]  And there's a smell.
[00:28:08]  And you know.
[00:28:09]  And guys know this too.
[00:28:11]  After you spend the night with somebody, you can smell girl on pillow.
[00:28:14]  You know.
[00:28:15]  That's pheromones, yeah.
[00:28:16]  When the girl leaves, You're like, you got the pill and you're like, man, you can smell her.
[00:28:21]  And it's a fact that it makes your blood rush.
[00:28:24]  Trans women do not do that.
[00:28:26]  Now, if you are turned on by the pheromones of a male, I got no issue with that.
[00:28:31]  And I don't think the people who do, as long as you're willing to admit it, that's fine, I don't give a shit.
[00:28:36]  So a guy who likes a trans person should have no problem just saying you're attracted to male pheromone.
[00:28:40]  Me, male smell grosses me out.
[00:28:43]  It smells like mold.
[00:28:45]  Well, I'm sorry.
[00:28:46]  I think it was from living in the theater for so long.
[00:28:49]  Ian's here all the time.
[00:28:50]  Black mold toxicity.
[00:28:53]  I'm still trying to get it out of my body.
[00:28:55]  Give me six years or something.
[00:28:57]  I'm sitting here, you know, I'm trying to do a podcast and Ian's over here smelling it up.
[00:29:01]  It's getting some musk all over you.
[00:29:02]  And I'm like, bro, dirty black mold.
[00:29:05]  Gotta surround with women.
[00:29:05]  Spirulinus negus.
[00:29:07]  Oh my God.
[00:29:08]  They should do the, you know, the famous t-shirt test where they had men wear t-shirts
[00:29:13]  and they should do it with trans people and be like, does it work?
[00:29:17]  Does this still stand up?
[00:29:18]  Cause we know it's real that women can identify who they're attracted to.
[00:29:21]  And it's the idea that like, they're looking for an immune system that's the most different from theirs to make their strong children.
[00:29:27]  Dude smell like dude.
[00:29:29]  Was it testosterone?
[00:29:29]  I mean, it's gotta be more than just any one thing I would imagine.
[00:29:32]  It's a bunch of stuff.
[00:29:33]  I mean, the big idea is that overall, evolutionarily, you're looking for someone to balance out your immune system, so you have strong children.
[00:29:37]  You walk into a room full of sweaty guys, and it smells bad.
[00:29:41]  But I'm sure women walk in there, and they're just like, yeah.
[00:29:45]  That's not true, because I drive home with sweaty socks every day, and I'm like, us?
[00:29:48]  No, no, no.
[00:29:49]  I'm not talking about sweaty socks.
[00:29:50]  I'm not talking about bacterial mold.
[00:29:52]  That's bacterial mold.
[00:29:53]  That's bacteria growing and feeding on sweat and stuff.
[00:29:56]  I'm talking about guys in t-shirts, they just worked out at the gym, they go in the gym room, and it's all like musty man smell.
[00:30:03]  That is rough.
[00:30:06]  Even women don't like it!
[00:30:09]  So I learned it's women like particular smells in a man and when you're finding a mate you find a mate that whose smell you like and what was happening with birth control is that women just on birth control it's tamping down your hormones yeah changes what partners you date it's just it's just like when women because When you're pregnant.
[00:30:24]  The pill mimics pregnancy.
[00:30:25]  So when you say like, oh, women have smell or food aversions, like same thing, messes it up.
[00:30:30]  Girls come off birth control and are like, wait, I question this relationship.
[00:30:34]  I don't like this man.
[00:30:35]  That makes me wonder if we have free will.
[00:30:38]  Like, are we just a result of our environment directing us around?
[00:30:42]  I'm kind of in that camp.
[00:30:44]  We're a result of our internal and external environment, meaning like we are a result of our genetics and hormones, how they interact with our world, as well as just internally, right?
[00:30:52]  And that's not a bad thing.
[00:30:54]  We ultimately have free will because we have cognitive power, but we make choices differently.
[00:30:58]  Different lifestyles and different partners and different whatever work for different people because we aren't wired the same way.
[00:31:04]  And that's what I think is one of the messed up things about the transgender movement, like The treatment is always hormones, it's always early intervention, it's always social integration, and that's probably not true for most children, but we're seeing them all pushed down the same rabbit hole.
[00:31:18]  Like, when Sweden was saying we need to switch to having talk therapy be our first line of intervention, it's important because children will ultimately express and come to different conclusions about how they feel about their gender.
[00:31:30]  Absolutely.
[00:31:30]  And if you cut them off too early from that, you're forcing them to hold the mantle, like Jazz Jenner, of this whole ideology that Maybe they don't actually feel when they're 17.
[00:31:38]  Jennings.
[00:31:39]  Jennings.
[00:31:40]  Jenner.
[00:31:42]  It works.
[00:31:44]  Two birds, one stone.
[00:31:46]  I don't think that people are not in control of their own doings.
[00:31:49]  I think that people need to understand these factors that might be in play when they're making a decision.
[00:31:54]  Like, if you are on birth control, you have every right to know that it might affect your choice in a partner.
[00:31:59]  Maybe this is why divorce rates have been getting so high.
[00:32:01]  Maybe this is why women are more likely to ask for divorce than men are.
[00:32:04]  I don't really know.
[00:32:05]  But knowing all this stuff about yourself, like, this influences me, is really a tool you can use.
[00:32:09]  Does the guy also, when the woman comes off birth control, dislike the smell of her too?
[00:32:14]  Or is it more in her?
[00:32:15]  Characteristics about her do change, so it depends.
[00:32:17]  Including maybe their smell, right?
[00:32:18]  Smell would change, boob size change.
[00:32:21]  Boobs shrink, right?
[00:32:23]  Guys, immediately just get pissed off.
[00:32:26]  You were a D!
[00:32:28]  You're a C!

=== Factors Influencing Decisions (01:03) ===

[00:32:29]  Get out of here!
[00:32:32]  We've been together for five years and your boobs are smaller!
[00:32:37]  I hate it here.
[00:32:38]  So yeah.
[00:32:41]  The guy just, he doesn't understand.
[00:32:43]  He's like, just before you got off birth control, you know, you were the, you were the one.
[00:32:47]  And now I just don't know why, but.
[00:32:49]  You're different.
[00:32:49]  You've changed.
[00:32:50]  You could be dating a whole different girl.
[00:32:52]  It fucks with your emotions and how you interact with the world.
[00:32:55]  It's why pregnancy is challenging for a lot of marriages because like the hormones are all over the place.
[00:32:59]  The thing is pregnancy only lasts for nine months and there's a lot of shit where the birth control puts you on a stable level that then you live your life in this state that isn't actually supposed to be your permanent state.
[00:33:11]  Does that make sense?
[00:33:12]  So before the show, it was cold in here for some reason.
[00:33:15]  So we opened the window and now there's a fuck ton of moths.
[00:33:16]  There's so many bugs in here, you guys would not believe.
[00:33:19]  Oh, snap!
[00:33:19]  All of our clothing.
[00:33:20]  Well, that's as good a time as any to wrap things up.
[00:33:23]  Is this the moth man?
[00:33:24]  I only regret that we didn't talk about PMP.
[00:33:26]  Thanks for having me.
[00:33:26]  It's been really fun.
[00:33:27]  Absolutely.
[00:33:28]  And everybody else.
[00:33:29]  And for everybody who's a member, thanks for making it all possible.
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