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Timcast IRL - Proud Boy Founder Gavin McInnes ARRESTED LIVE According To Associate w/Gprime85
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tim pool
so the other night while we were live I guess Gavin McInnes doing his show he's
He's the founder of the Proud Boys and he runs Censored.tv for those unfamiliar.
He's doing his show and then he stands up and it's like he's talking to someone and then he says he'll get a lawyer and schedule something.
Then he leaves.
And then his show is just dead air for 30 minutes.
And the rumor going around is that he was arrested.
However, many people on the left are claiming it was a prank or a publicity stunt.
Some are even claiming that behind the scenes he's in a private chat room with other Proud Boys and he's currently talking.
However, an associate of his and from Censored TV is saying that he is in jail right now.
It's hard to know what to make of this.
Because I, I, I, you know, when I see this, him being interrupted, uh, during the live show, a lot of people are like, what are the chances that happens?
And it's like, we've been interrupted several times with the police coming here because we were swatted.
And there were a lot of people claiming that we were faking it, and we weren't.
We had, like, you actually could see the police walk in the room the first time it happened, and I think the, not the last time because, um, to be honest, when it's happened following that, we haven't said anything.
We have armed guards, you know, and other security that I'm not gonna mention, and they will, you know, intercept any, let's just say, security issues.
So we just don't say anything about it.
And, you know, obviously.
But there was, you know, I think a month ago, we had the cops sweep the room, it was a wide shot.
So when I see this story, I'm like, I don't know, man, maybe he got arrested, but maybe it's not related to anything crazy.
Like, if he did, maybe it's because he, like, I don't know, stole a newspaper or something, who knows.
Or he, like, got into a civil dispute, another arguing, I have no idea.
But, uh, the story is certainly going wild, so if it is a stunt, it is a brilliant one and it's working, I guess.
But I'm not going to start off by assuming that someone would ditch their own show to do something like this.
Don't know for sure.
On top of that, though, we have new information coming out from the Trump raid.
And, uh, look, it's my opinion, but I think right now it is, it is definitively FBI corruption.
The affidavit, mostly redacted, basically said that Donald Trump cooperated by turning over 15 boxes, and within those boxes was classified materials.
Therefore, they said, we now have reason to believe he's probably got more, so we should get to search his home.
Then they went in and took 11 documents, or 11 packets or something, and Kash Patel said that those were Russiagate documents.
Could it be that right before midterm, they were scared that Trump would release Crossfire Hurricane Russiagate?
Evidence that made the government look bad.
So they needed a way to justify going to his house and taking the copies or at least trying to find out what he has.
I don't know.
I don't know for sure.
I don't want to get too conspiratorial.
What I do know is, it sounds like from this affidavit, if Trump did not cooperate with the feds, they would not have had means or grounds to actually go into his home.
So it's very, very crazy.
We're going to get into that and a whole lot more.
Governor Hochul in New York said Republicans are not New Yorkers.
What did she say?
Something like that?
hannah claire brimelow
Told him to go back to Florida.
tim pool
Is that what you said?
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
lydia smith
Wow.
hannah claire brimelow
Wow.
We could talk all about it.
lydia smith
I guess we will.
tim pool
We'll talk all about that, but ladies and gentlemen, tonight's show is sponsored by Tim Kast Records.
lydia smith
Whoa.
tim pool
Head over to timkastrecords.com, or you'll see in the description below is a link to Bandcamp.
We also are selling this new song, Only Ever Wanted, our first single from Tim Kast Records, on Apple Music.
And a lot of people were like, I ain't gonna buy off Apple.
It's like, okay, Bandcamp, you know, they're all right.
Here's the thing.
We have one week.
We have very little time to maximize the amount of purchases of the song in order to actually chart and have an impact.
And the whole point of this is we want to invade the cultural spaces of the establishment.
So here's what I'm going to say to all y'all.
At midnight, well actually 12.01am this morning, we launched the song Only Ever Wanted official video.
You can see it right here.
Let me show you.
Boop, there it is.
We right now have like 450,000 hits on this song in, what are we looking at, like 20 hours, I think it's been?
Yeah.
In less than one day.
And that's just on YouTube.
So on other platforms there's also, it's like, I think maybe like 80 to 100k on Instagram, which doesn't really count towards anything.
And, uh, so, all in all, I would already say huge success for our, like, initial launch of a song that we wrote.
We've got many more coming.
We're going to be signing more bands.
Just like The Daily Wire is doing movies, you know, we're doing something similar.
We had Pete Pirata.
He was a drummer from The Offspring and a whole bunch of other bands, like Face to Face.
And they fired him because he could not get the vaccine.
So it is an honor and a privilege to have worked with him on this song.
And that's what we're going to do.
We are going to take the hill that they have abandoned.
If you want to support us, And you wanna send a message, you wanna help us continually take this space, the link in the description below, 69 cents to buy the song, it's all costs.
And you don't need that many to have an impact, to get on the charts.
So if you guys go down there and just buy that song, put it in your libraries, it's also on Amazon Music and stuff, it would be a dream come true, it'd be tremendous.
And hopefully we can generate enough from this to keep making more music.
And then if there are other people who are scared, you know, here's what I'm, I wanna tell you what I'm talking about.
People in the music industry who are like, I agree with all of this stuff.
Oh, I voted for Donald Trump, but if I tell anybody I'll get, I'll get fired.
I want there to be within a few years, a space, a parallel cultural economy where people can be like, bro, if you fire me, I'm going to go work for this other company.
Daily, daily wire.
I'm sorry.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Daily wire.
They're already doing it.
They hired a Disney executive.
We need more of this.
So, um, you know, I'll say outright, I wish, you know, anybody else could be doing this kind of stuff too.
There's many people who are doing it.
All I know is I'm going to do everything I can.
And with your support, we'll do more.
So that being said, links in the description below.
Joining us, oh and don't forget, TimCast.com, of course.
lydia smith
Oh yeah, we have a site too.
tim pool
Being a member at TimCast.com is what's making all this possible.
That's like the main engine for us to make all these shows.
And you can see here that we've got Cast Castle Vlog, which is comedy.
We're gonna be making, we're turning into a sitcom.
Tales from the Inverted World, True Crime, Pop Culture Crisis, Pop Culture Commentary, Chicken City, family-friendly, you know, just chicken stuff.
We are trying, chicken stuff.
We're trying to build the cultural space and expand it and we are building more and more and more.
And what's happening is, once we get a project established, and the gears start turning, we move on to the next one, and we just keep planting more seeds, whose trees, whose shade, we know we will never sit beneath.
That's the whole goal.
So, become a member at TimCast.com, support our work.
Joining us to talk about all of this crazy stuff, and probably a lot of cultural stuff, is GPrime85.
george alexopoulos
Thank you again for the invite.
tim pool
Go ahead.
george alexopoulos
Am I allowed to introduce myself?
tim pool
No.
george alexopoulos
No.
unidentified
Okay.
george alexopoulos
Well, I will say then simply I am the wandering cartoonist who serves no master.
lydia smith
That's right.
george alexopoulos
I am Reddit's favorite martial arts expert.
You guys know what I'm talking about?
lydia smith
Yes.
george alexopoulos
And I am in fact- Grappling, it's called.
Turbo grappling.
I have a list here I can't say yet.
And I'm the only one you guys ever wanted.
lydia smith
Oh, my.
tim pool
That's right.
We got a couple of George's awesome comics.
My favorite is the Joe Biden electrocuting people with force lightning.
It's just absolutely amazing.
george alexopoulos
I was there.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
We are also joined by Hannah Claire Brimelow.
hannah claire brimelow
Hi, I'm Hannah Claire Brimelow.
I'm a writer for TimCast.com.
ian crossland
Hi everyone.
tim pool
That was easy!
unidentified
Talk about other stuff if you guys want.
ian crossland
Hey George, what's your website?
I'll mention it again at the end I think.
george alexopoulos
Well I think the best way is just gprime85 on Twitter and Instagram and I have all my links on there.
unidentified
Oh yeah.
tim pool
And Tim Kast Records will be releasing G Prime's first rap song.
lydia smith
Oh yeah?
ian crossland
Yeah, look at that beard.
tim pool
I'm announcing this without actually consulting George at all.
ian crossland
And if you guys want, I'm trying to convince him to play Only Ever Wanted on the show tonight.
I don't know if it's gonna happen.
Maybe we'll play out the show.
tim pool
Maybe we'll play some songs.
We can ask Carter to come hang out.
ian crossland
Oh, not live.
I mean, can we roll the video at the end of the song and just let it roll us out?
tim pool
I don't have the file.
ian crossland
It's Elon Musk, you know, he's a big fan of that number.
You're given three options to sell songs for, $1.29, $0.99, and $0.69.
george alexopoulos
We could buy the mp3. A little taste of freedom. For how much? What a great bargain. 69 cents.
tim pool
69 cents I heard. Nice. Yeah. Nice. It's Elon Musk, you know, he's a big fan of that number.
And so, no, you're given three options to sell songs for, 129.99 and 69 cents. And so the
strategy is basically if you have a diehard fan base, they sell it for 129 because they know it'll
sell no matter what. And then if you're looking for just maximum sales, you sell it for the lower
So we're not looking for... I'm not trying to make a million dollars off this song.
I'm trying to have an impact.
Inspire young people and set the space.
I'll tell you guys this right now.
Going through all the billboard numbers, it's actually really funny.
When you look at the Billboard Hot 100, the most popular songs in the country, it's all like, you know, R&B, hip-hop, you know, WAP, you know what I mean?
Was it W-A-P, the thing Ben Shapiro raps?
The reason that is is because people listen to that stuff.
But if every fan of, like, metal or alternative actually bought the songs, then the Hot 100 would always be alternative rock.
ian crossland
Yeah, a coordinated marketplace.
When the demand can coordinate, you can kind of control production, in a sense.
tim pool
I'll just put it this way.
I won't say too much, but it does not take that many people to buy a song to get you in the top charts.
The issue is no one does.
So the reason so like I'll say is if we saw John rich he hit number one on iTunes I think for like 12 days or something like that great progress a country song ragging on woke people.
Yeah, because his fans actually bought it That's what that's what I'm talking about.
So even if it's not like this song is totally not political We need y'all to just support your favorite artists and then all of a sudden we'll start displacing the top charts.
And then if you do that, those record labels are going to be like, Hey guys, this makes more money.
This sells better.
ian crossland
And shout out to Shane and Nancy Cashman, the actors in the video.
If you guys haven't seen Only Ever Wanted, the music video, you got to go to it and watch it tonight at some point.
And, um, they look great.
Their eyes, man, there's just so much emotion in the eyes.
I'm really, really happy with.
Kent Welling's editing and shooting of the video too.
It's fantastic.
tim pool
There was a comment.
Viva Fry posted the promo and then someone responded to him saying, cringe.
I'm surprised the glass from the car crash didn't form angel wings behind her in the end.
unidentified
And then I responded with, whoa, that's a good idea.
ian crossland
Magic.
lydia smith
I am also here in the corner.
It's Friday evening.
I'm leaning on my pillow cause my arm is killing me, but I'm here to push buttons and let's talk about the news.
tim pool
Here's the first story.
The reason this story is important because Gavin McInnes may have been arrested.
We don't know.
The Daily Dot, who likely just hates Gavin, writes, Was Proud Boys founder Gavin McInnes actually arrested following his livestream?
Well, I believe it's Bettridge's Law.
Is that it?
Bettridge's Law of Headlines.
If a headline asks a question, the answer is no.
lydia smith
That's correct.
Yeah, I have heard that.
tim pool
Is it Betteridge?
What do we got?
hannah claire brimelow
So much fast typing in this room right now.
ian crossland
Yeah, come on guys.
Betteridge's Law of Headlines.
unidentified
Boom!
tim pool
I can't believe I remembered that properly.
I'm always mixing it up.
ian crossland
Who's Betteridge?
tim pool
So here's what happens.
There's this video of Gavin.
He's doing his show.
I think we can play this.
ian crossland
Named after Ian Betteridge, by the way.
tim pool
Oh, hey!
Really?
An Ian?
ian crossland
British technology journalist.
tim pool
So here's Gavin McInnes.
ian crossland
We're shooting a show.
Can we do this another time?
tim pool
And then he gets up and he, like, doesn't say anything for a little while.
And then it's really quiet because he's away from the mic.
He says, uh, let's see, when's he gonna say it?
I think we gotta jump ahead.
unidentified
We'll sit down and have a conversation, we'll schedule a meeting, and we'll sit down with my lawyer.
tim pool
Yeah.
He says, we'll schedule a meeting, we'll sit down with my lawyer.
Now, I'll say this.
A lot of people are like, it's gotta be the feds, because, um, I think it was Will Carlos, this journalist, called the local police and they were like, we did not arrest him.
And there's been no announcements by law enforcement or anything about a possible arrest.
Who knows what's happening?
lydia smith
Is he in the U.S.
or Canada?
tim pool
He's in New York.
ian crossland
This is the kind of thing where you, law enforcement, I believe they would make a big headline out of this if they arrested Gavin.
tim pool
I don't think so.
No, that's a privacy violation.
I'm pretty sure they wouldn't just arbitrarily announce, we have arrested this man.
ian crossland
But with Trump, they were like, we went into Mar-a-Lago, wasn't that a big deal?
tim pool
No, he was the one who announced they went to Mar-a-Lago.
And with Roger Stone, they tipped off CNN.
So it depends on what the police government wants to happen.
ian crossland
I don't know what to think of this, because Gavin's a master troll.
Like, the Proud Boys is a master troll.
He set that group up as a troll.
But I don't want to say that if he actually got arrested, because that's... I don't care who you are.
tim pool
Even the boy who cried wolf, in a circumstance like this, I'm not going to start by assuming you faked some kind of arrest or something.
And you've got to understand, too, in this clip, He didn't even say he was getting arrested.
He just left the show in the middle of the show.
For all we know, when he was pulling into his driveway, he scratched his neighbor, he bumped his neighbor's car, and they called the cops, and he's doing a show, and the cop shows up, and then they said, like, you hit that car, you gotta come out, and he's like, I'll get a lawyer.
Like, it could have been something as innocuous as that.
And then they were like, no, you're coming out now, and then the show goes off the air because he's outside, and he's, like, arguing with people and exchanging information, and they're yelling at him.
Who knows?
ian crossland
Did they leave the show running after that?
tim pool
Yeah, they left it running.
So Josh Denny, who is associated with GavinMcInnes and Censored.TV says, You know, I kind of feel like it's hard to believe.
It's not a bit Gavin was against going to January 6 He was against Charlottesville and told proud boys they
were out of the club if they went But he's rotting away in jail because he dared to question
authority You know, I kind of feel like it's hard to believe. What do
hannah claire brimelow
you think? I Don't think it's hard to believe that Gavin is against
January 6. I No, no, no, no.
Getting arrested.
tim pool
I know he's against January 6th.
hannah claire brimelow
I'm wary to comment on this.
There's a part of the video where he says, I didn't let you in here.
And I don't know a ton about Gavin's studio, but I think that's significant.
That either means that they Felt like they had reason to entry, reason to enter, and I assume that means they were serving an arrest warrant.
unidentified
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
It's hard not to see it that way.
That's a good point.
I don't think that, you know, he's been silent ever since, so that's also significant.
I think his fans, or his, I think his company or he would address it in some way if everything were fine, if that makes sense.
I think the fact that we are not hearing anything, the longer it goes on becomes increasingly more suspicious.
tim pool
Will Carlos said, trying to confirm what's up with Gavin McInnes abruptly leaving his show last night in the middle of his live stream.
A colleague of his tweeted McInnes was hauled off by the feds, but no charges filed on Pacer or press releases from DOJ, FBI.
No so reserving judgment.
Fair point, fair point.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Because, you know, Ian, you mentioned he's a master troll.
He certainly is.
But I will say, Scott Adams, remember what he tweeted July 1st, 2020?
lydia smith
Yeah, I do.
unidentified
I remember it.
What did he say?
lydia smith
He said, Republicans will be hunted.
Everyone made fun of him!
tim pool
And then it was two months later that Aaron Danielson took two to the chest from a Black Lives Matter activist with a BLM tattoo on his neck.
ian crossland
Someone was just insinuating that MAGA Republicans were dangerous.
MAGA Republicans.
But it was like, they specified these MAGA... Who was that?
It was on Twitter.
I think it was Today even.
tim pool
It was Biden, wasn't it?
ian crossland
It's hilarious that I don't remember who it was when he talks, because it's like, who was that guy?
tim pool
Have you guys seen the trailer?
hannah claire brimelow
The older man who keeps just rambling?
lydia smith
I don't know.
tim pool
Have you guys seen the trailer for My Son Hunter?
lydia smith
Oh gosh, no.
ian crossland
Not a trailer.
tim pool
I saw the trailer.
It looks really good.
Gina Carano's in it.
lydia smith
Oh, cool.
tim pool
But my only issue with it is that it makes Joe Biden look very strong and confident.
lydia smith
Incorrect.
hannah claire brimelow
Inaccurate.
tim pool
Yeah, because there's a scene where he confronts Hunter, and he's like, what did you do?
And then I'm like, Joe?
unidentified
He be going like, come on, man!
ian crossland
Crack pipe!
Corn pop!
What are you doing to me, man?
tim pool
Unless the angle they're going with is that it's all an act, so that his enemies think he's a fumbling bumbling... You know, look, people are... I'll put it this way.
Conservatives are acting like Joe Biden's not really the one making all these moves.
So he's sort of getting the blame deflected off of himself by being this way.
So imagine he's actually totally lucid and strong, And he's like, listen here, listen here champ.
I just made a bunch of moves guy.
Look fat.
I'm the one taking the economy, but I'm not gonna take the blame for it.
Watch how I pull this one off.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
Economy?
ian crossland
That's the theory.
Ronald Reagan, apparently when he was leaving office, he had also apparently had Alzheimer's.
That's the story.
But some people think that he had been embroiled in some corruption and it was coming out.
And then he started saying, like, I can't remember.
I don't remember.
I don't remember.
And his memory started to fail him all of a sudden.
And then he was off the hook.
tim pool
Yeah, they're going to be like they're going to.
So the Republicans are going to win.
They're going to file investigations.
It went in November.
And then they're going to subpoena Joe Biden.
And he's going to be like, I did what?
And you're gonna be like, Mr. President, you had a conversation with the president of Ukraine
about a billion dollar loan guarantee.
A billion dollar bone guarantee?
unidentified
What?
Who bought a dinosaur bone?
There are all these stories about like, this is starting to seem like elder abuse.
hannah claire brimelow
Like I think everyone was saying like, he is just he seems so out of it that it is almost
cruel to force him to do this.
I don't necessarily agree but like in some ways I wondered if that story was to set him up for like sympathy from the American public should anyone ever try to prosecute him in the future because it's like well he wasn't he wasn't well then and he's not he's even worse now like we always just give him the excuse that he's like old and decrepit even though he was this way when we elected him.
tim pool
Maybe he is being controlled by somebody else and he's just a puppet.
Maybe he's secretly strong.
Either way, you've got a conspiracy theory on your hands.
But this is what I want to get to.
If this Gavin McGinnis thing turns out to not be a hoax, and he was actually detained for some reason, then the fact that information's been withheld and that he would be in jail is actually really, really terrifying.
Which is why it's like, it'd be really awful if it was a stunt.
Or some kind of prank or something.
He might come back and be like, I didn't break anybody.
You know, I got into an argument with a neighbor and then we canceled the show and then everyone started claiming I was arrested.
Like, what happened?
You know, for all we know, it could be like that.
But considering that the president just got his house raided and the reasoning behind it seems to be completely, like, fraudulent and corrupt, in my opinion, these are scary days.
You know, like I mentioned, Scott Adams said Republicans will be hunted.
He did say you'll be dead by this time next year or something like that.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, that was a little hyperbolic.
tim pool
But a couple of months later, dude was shot and killed for just being a Trump supporter.
So it's like he was right for somebody.
hannah claire brimelow
And if you mean it in like the unpersonal way, like if you ban people from platforms that are mainstream and you cut them off from society, you're not literally dead, but you are.
Your influence is over, if that makes sense.
That's what I think more people the attempt is with most people who have like MAGA ideology.
They don't want them to have any sort of influence over politics.
So if they can shuffle them as far into the dark parts of the Internet as they can and be like, oh, they're extremists.
That's the ideal scenario.
tim pool
Let me start by saying, I'm really excited for November.
People pointed out that New York 19 was supposed to go Republican, but it stayed Democrat, so that's a bad sign.
But then someone else pointed out that Democrats won that district by 12 points.
They just won it again by two, which suggests a major swing in favor of Republicans.
So I just want to make sure everybody's got that little optimism in their minds.
And I will also add, too, on the culture front, we released a song.
It's got 480,000 hits, probably, like, more than that across the platforms.
So, like, things are going really well.
Like, I'm actually feeling pretty good.
lydia smith
Daily Wire is hiring Disney CMO, like, the marketing person, right?
tim pool
Yeah, man, you know, like, I think we're doing really well.
And every day, The cult seems to just falter and fail and stumble.
That being said, in their desperation, you will see the death throes and the death rattles.
So, going after Donald Trump's home, raiding it.
Gavin McInnes may be being raided or arrested, I don't know.
lydia smith
Desperation.
tim pool
Yeah, but desperation.
Project Veritas getting raided.
And now we got the story in the New York Times about these people selling the diary, actually Biden's diary, to James.
And it sounds like they're going to try and go after Veritas.
We may be winning, but of course, no one in the culture war is going to just give up, right?
So if freedom, liberty, moderation, libertarianism, conservative values, American values, all of these things, which don't completely agree with each other, but have this coalition start winning.
Are we about to see a dramatic escalation in corrupt law enforcement and political, you know, authoritarianism?
george alexopoulos
Well, surely they're going to be held accountable after the next couple of months.
tim pool
And they can't allow that.
george alexopoulos
I mean, when a cornered animal lashes out, you know, in its last desperate move, that's when the Republicans have the advantage of typically they are the party of inaction, I would say.
And in this case, inaction is probably the best thing to do.
lydia smith
Really?
george alexopoulos
They're being provoked into do something, make a mistake.
But actually, just by sitting and waiting until November, that's probably the best move for most of the center and the right.
Go tell all your family members to vote and go vote yourself.
Replace all the jerks.
And then hopefully the representatives who are elected are going to be able to clean up instead of trying to seize the ring of power for themselves and then the corruption spreads, but it comes from the right now.
tim pool
I gotta give an amazing white pill moment for everybody.
I was laughing with such joy earlier today.
So I tweeted out that YouTube changed their rules.
Right.
I do this big long thing because YouTube removed the rule saying you you can't claim that that masks cause lung cancer and that masks You know a whole bunch of claims the most absurd of which was that YouTube now allows people to claim that masks cause lung cancer which is Weird.
It's insane.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
And so I did this big thing of all the rules, right?
But one of them was about the efficacy of the vaccines.
And Marjorie Taylor Greene quote tweeted me and said, so in other words, allowing some truth.
Some truth.
Something like that.
She was not endorsing any of this stuff.
A bunch of outlets wrote articles claiming Marjorie Taylor Greene endorses the idea that masks cause lung cancer.
And then I just busted out laughing.
lydia smith
What the heck?
tim pool
She certainly did not.
She was making a comment about reduction in censorship, some of which these things are actually asserted by the CDC.
She did not say masks do this.
ian crossland
It's like saying there's some good people in the United States and people being like, you think murderers are good people?
unidentified
Exactly.
george alexopoulos
It's that joke of I like pancakes.
Are you saying you hate waffles?
lydia smith
Yes.
tim pool
Yes, so I just laughed.
I'm like, this is all they have.
This is what the media has now.
They're so desperate.
george alexopoulos
It's a taunt.
tim pool
They're scraping at the bottom of the barrel so hard, they've started pulling up wood chips.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, and the timing is right after she's been swatted, what, twice?
So they're like, no sympathy points for her.
She thinks masks make you have lung cancer.
Stay away from Marjorie Taylor Greene.
Like, it's so desperate what they're doing.
tim pool
There's another fake meme where they're like, Marjorie Taylor Greene was talking about solar energy and claimed that you would lose electricity at night.
And she said, I don't know about you, but I like having the lights on at night.
And then all these leftists are mocking her.
And I'm like, are you joking?
She's right.
Solar panels don't work at night.
And so the issue is with solar power as a grid feature is that you need massive batteries, battery technology that we don't actually have.
And so that's why solar works great supplemented by natural gas.
Was that her point?
Because that's actually correct.
But they snip out one weird sounding thing.
Anyway, the reason I bring that up as a white pill thing, when we're talking about winning in November, G-Prime, you know, he just mentioned, George, he said, get your family, go vote.
george alexopoulos
You know, Marjorie— Everybody you know.
tim pool
Everybody you know.
When Marjorie Taylor Greene is winning, and she's, like, raising more money than anybody else, and then we see a whole bunch of MAGA Republicans that they hate so much winning, Carrie Lake sweeping every district in Arizona.
Arizona's been slowly turning blue because of California, people fleeing California.
Carrie Lake still swept every district.
ian crossland
It's that border.
tim pool
That border's crazy.
Yo, I'm saying, after everything I've seen this year, Trump's endorsement record is like 99% success.
lydia smith
Crazy.
tim pool
I'm ready to order a bunch of nachos, sit back, grab some beers, and be like, this is good news, everybody.
ian crossland
Some organic tortillas.
tim pool
Just make sure, make sure you don't just rest on these victories.
You have to make sure now, you know, when the enemy center has crumpled, you don't just go, okay, it crumpled, we can chill.
No, no, no, no, no.
Now you take the hilltop.
So come November, everybody, you got to get everybody you know.
And then finally, if we can get enough of these actual American value politicians in, maybe get some accountability and some investigations.
ian crossland
That's a good point.
If you truly, if you really win, which it feels like, sometimes I feel like I am winning in life.
Like this is a, this is a victory.
Then it's your turn to build.
You now have the land, the land is yours.
Now you must create something sustainable so that you can, you and your friends can stay, you and your people, your, your brethren.
george alexopoulos
It's really Red Team's game to lose.
In sports terms, it's sort of like... Conservatives in general, strategically, are hold your ground and play defense.
It's hard to go on offense with your shield up.
You're stepping forward, stepping forward, holding your ground.
But now it's time to, you have the ball, go towards the end zone.
I guess my problem is that I worry that, I mean, we grew up, we're all about the age where we remember when the Republicans pushed a little too hard in the early 2000s and stuff.
We've seen them go on offense and then make so many mistakes that they make themselves look foolish and then they get replaced by the left because the left says we want change from these bad policies, these, I always talk about the Patriot Act and all that stuff, I hate that stuff.
And pushing wars and let's go invade everybody.
It's like, no, how about we just focus on America for a little while?
And that's what this new form of red team is doing.
I want to see what happens when they have control of the ball.
We've never seen what happens before, have we?
I don't think we have.
ian crossland
Well, how do you see America fitting in with a new world order?
george alexopoulos
It depends who's in control of America, right?
I mean, if in the next two and a half years, Biden's still in control of the executive branch, let's say, or his handlers are still in control.
Legislative might lean red.
Supreme Court's leaning red now.
So I'm guessing it's going to be lame duckish for the next couple years, maybe, policy-wise.
As far as the New World Order is concerned, they might just be planning to do things without America's involvement.
Would be my guess, because America is kind of crippled as if we have a blue executive branch who won't pass any of the legislation that they write on Red Team, let's say.
We want to pass these bills and Joe Biden's like, no, I'm just not going to pass it.
Not going to pass it.
So then it goes to the Supreme Court, and then we have more fighting on that front.
But as far as what they're trying to push, like what?
I mean, what new thing is going to happen in the next two years that the Liberal World Order or whatever, the World Economic Forum, what are they going to try to push in the next couple of years aside from Cryptocurrency is the new digital currency, like dispensing of the dollar erosion of human rights in general.
We'll just I guess we will be watching helplessly as the rest of the world loses their rights and then hoping that we're one of the last countries that can at least openly criticize this stuff.
ian crossland
Yeah, whenever there's a revolution, honestly, I don't think there's ever been a revolution, I was reading about this, where the bottom tier of society rose up and took the top.
It's always that a top and a bottom aspect of society are replaced by a smaller top and bottom segment of society.
So it's like you can't, well, that maybe is a little different than the point that you can't really revolt.
A system doesn't revolt alone.
It's because of outside forces, like the French won the American Revolution.
george alexopoulos
Yeah, that'll be very strange if, let's say there's uprisings throughout America.
I was talking about this yesterday.
I think they might try to import private military from other countries to try to be peacekeepers or something.
That would be absolutely horrifying.
Or maybe we were talking about this offline, with those stupid Boston Dynamics robots patrolling down the street, trying to hold the peace in New York State or something, if there's weirdos in the woods trying to hold their ground.
ian crossland
I guess, are there peaceful revolutions in history?
Like are there, you guys know of any?
hannah claire brimelow
I can't name one off the top of my head.
tim pool
I guess they could happen.
There are a couple examples.
I can't remember off the top of my head though.
ian crossland
Throughout the bankers, like in 2008, they were like, we're done with central banks.
tim pool
We're taking control of our money.
Didn't Canada just be like, hey, we're going to go our own way.
And they were like, okay, Canada.
Something like that.
I don't know.
There have been, but they're extremely rare.
Yeah.
unidentified
Very rare.
tim pool
Let's jump to the story here from Timcast.com.
Governor Kathy Hochul to states Republicans, you are not New Yorkers.
Okay, if you are a Republican living in New York... Who's that Republican that we know who lives in New York?
george alexopoulos
Frank Frank John's a Frank.
tim pool
I'm just like I'm just saying that because there's a bunch Quite frankly Frank himself.
ian crossland
Yeah, dude.
george alexopoulos
I love us up, right?
tim pool
So Kathy Hockels gotta go said Republican congressman and gubernatorial candidate Lee Zeldin Just jump on a bus and head down to Florida where you belong.
Okay, whoa Bye!
Get out of town because you don't represent our values.
lydia smith
WTF?
tim pool
Yo, you are not New Yorkers.
hannah claire brimelow
There are like 5.4 million registered Republicans.
And there are probably independents who also lean Republican.
You guys should probably at least get a plane ticket to Florida.
Start seeing yourself out.
unidentified
Wow, that's crazy.
ian crossland
Unelected leader telling people, ejecting people.
This is not good.
This is not an American value, man.
This is not something we've ever really, in my experience, done to our population before.
But it is something that the Nazis did to the Jews.
Repopulation was like an old punishment.
Liberal international economy.
unidentified
No.
ian crossland
Graphene.
tim pool
The two words.
ian crossland
DMT.
lydia smith
Make everyone take a shot.
tim pool
Come on Ian.
ian crossland
Civil war?
unidentified
Yeah!
ian crossland
You liked it.
tim pool
When the governor tells 5.4 million people to get out of the state.
hannah claire brimelow
At a rally for other political leaders.
unidentified
Dude.
lydia smith
Crap.
tim pool
When the previous governor murdered 15,000 elderly people.
I'm saying that.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, there's a huge... One of the big criticisms of this is like, do you not understand?
Like, we've already lost a ton of people because of the pandemic.
Like, that's our tax base.
unidentified
Dude, dude, dude.
tim pool
Did you see... Listen, my friends.
The other day we were talking about Nate Silver.
He said liberal elites pressured Pfizer to hold back the vaccine until after the election.
I guess it was like to hurt Trump or something.
That's what Nate Silver was saying.
Okay, assuming that's true, These Democrat politicians expected you to die in order to stop Donald Trump.
In fact, Cuomo had the option to use that medical ship.
Which one was it?
It wasn't the Mercy.
I thought it was, but someone kept telling me we were wrong.
lydia smith
Oh, I don't know.
tim pool
There was that big boat.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, there was a boat.
tim pool
And the Javits Center.
And Cuomo was like, you know, I could I'm gonna put the sick people in the elderly home.
And then 15,000 people died.
lydia smith
Yep.
tim pool
That took a lot of voters out of the equation, I'll tell you that.
ian crossland
Is the USS Comfort?
tim pool
Comfort, yeah.
And 15,000 voters who are older, who tend to be conservative, erased from the voting bloc.
lydia smith
Older people tend to vote Republican.
tim pool
And then we saw it in, what, Pennsylvania, in Michigan, in New Jersey, and in California.
This is dark stuff, man.
ian crossland
This is part of why top-down governance is failing, or at least struggling, is because it's, like, utilitarian.
Kathy doesn't know all the Republicans that she's claiming are not New Yorkers that are.
Like, if she knew them personally, she probably wouldn't be saying that.
hannah claire brimelow
Well she always says like I'm from Buffalo, I'm from upstate, I know about the rest of New Yorkers like she tries to present herself as more than just like a politician who's catering to New York City which dominates the state's politics in a lot of ways but like she is not.
I bring up the economic criticism because the two major issues for New York voters right now are How could you live in New York?
It doesn't make any sense!
she says I don't care about the economy I don't want any Republicans here and
before she's running against Lee Zeldin who as I remember someone tried to stab
him on stage and he correctly predicted that person would be released before
morning and they and the attacker was I mean live in New York it doesn't hold on
tim pool
I think she's right she's like she said she said you got to go
What did she say?
Jump on a bus and head down to Florida.
Republicans in New York, I'm gonna tell you, just jump on a bus and head down to Florida.
lydia smith
Yeah, there you go.
tim pool
Florida needs you, and Florida's great.
george alexopoulos
I say stay and fight, though.
hannah claire brimelow
Maybe she's gonna start busing them down the way that Abbott's busing illegal immigrants to D.C., like she's gonna get her own system going.
tim pool
But you saw that story that they're not even making it, right?
lydia smith
They're stopping in the states.
ian crossland
It's just... You think it's better to stay in New York and change it from the inside?
george alexopoulos
I've had the opinion for a long time.
What Blue Team seems to be doing is forcing people to retreat.
And I've always had the opinion of the more you retreat, eventually you're going to find your back to a cliff and then they're going to force you to jump.
Or do a desperate move to make a mistake.
I know a bunch of New Yorkers because I live really close to it and the idea of, how do I put this, they will never forget like say you had an older family member in the hospital or something like that, you weren't allowed to visit them.
Or you had one, you could only have one person visiting at a time.
That is how you can flip most demographics red, for sure.
Nobody's going to ever forget that, at least from our generation.
So not being able to visit an elderly family member, or God forbid you had someone that died, those people will never vote blue again, probably.
So when she says leave, she's trying to force them to retreat because she knows she's already lost them.
So don't leave.
In fact, stay in place.
I know I've known a bunch of New Yorkers who they're always talking about, is it time to go?
Is it time to go?
I say no.
You should reclaim your land.
You should not say, I'm going to go somewhere else where I can be happy.
Blue Team's strategy seems to be to try to make you run away.
It's like a paper tiger kind of thing.
You've already lost the fight.
You may as well not fight now because you've lost.
But actually there's way more of you than you think.
Especially in New York State.
tim pool
Here's the thing too.
If every single If every single Republican in AOC's district actually voted Republican, they would win.
george alexopoulos
They think that by—it's like, oh, I'm going to lose anyway, so I may as well not vote.
That's probably what it is.
I don't think even a lot of people know that there's an election coming up in the next few months.
tim pool
But who just won the Republican nomination?
Tina something in New York, in AOC's district?
hannah claire brimelow
I can look.
tim pool
Yeah, look at, because I'm drawing a blank on the name.
But it is...
george alexopoulos
Oh, she has a real thick accent.
tim pool
It's like, I think it's what, two to one or three to, no, it's like three to one Democrat
to Republican in her district.
It's like D plus 25 or something.
But if you look at the amount of people that actually turn out, it's really, really low.
ian crossland
Is it Uniforte?
Is that her name?
tim pool
Yeah, Uniforte.
Is that it?
Forte?
george alexopoulos
Because they don't realize how important it is.
tim pool
But I will be realistic.
You would need every single Republican and conservative-leaning person.
Every single one.
george alexopoulos
Grandma.
tim pool
And then you need to also hope the Democrats don't turn out.
The Democrats typically don't turn out.
Like AOC, I think, got like a hundred and something thousand in a district of 750,000.
If every conservative voted, it would be the weirdest thing ever.
They'd be like, how did New York 14 flip Republican?
It's like, because the Republicans got fed up and they actually went out and voted.
george alexopoulos
I think a lot of those votes, though, are people who are, they've been dead for a while, maybe.
Now, this is just my opinion.
I'm not saying the F word.
But a lot of those people, like, you know, they recycle social security numbers and stuff.
tim pool
That's an easy out.
george alexopoulos
There's a lot of corruption in New York.
tim pool
Sure, sure, sure, sure, sure.
I'm all in favor of cleaning up voter rolls, but I think it's such... What I don't like is that in 2016, they screamed for years that Russia hacked the machines and all that stuff.
And then to see the right-side in that narrative, and I'm like, bro, even if it's the case, you need to talk... There's two big things you need to do.
One, rally everyone you know to go and vote.
And two, make sure you're paying attention to the process.
Like in Wisconsin, they're saying those drop boxes are illegal.
But when you come out and you say stuff like that, it's like a defeatist mentality.
george alexopoulos
No, no.
In fact, we should overwhelm.
I say we as if I'm on red team necessarily.
I like them.
But we should go in overwhelming numbers.
So even if someone were to cheat, which never happens, they can't win because the numbers are going to be so overwhelmingly on your side.
tim pool
Here's what I think is important when it comes to politics.
If you're not cheating, you're not trying.
There's no such thing.
The whole game is fight for power by any means necessary.
Now, there are certain parameters where things are flexible, albeit amoral or wrong.
And then there are certain parameters where you're outright committing criminal activity.
Proving criminal activity is very, very difficult and rarely happens.
It happens sometimes.
DeSantis just found a bunch of people who weren't eligible to vote were voting and things like that.
So when people come out and they assert that the reason we lost is specifically because of criminal activity, it's like, or are you just not paying attention to the fact that the rules were adjusted in such a way that it harmed you and your ideology?
Pennsylvania is the best example.
They changed the rules a year in advance.
They cut a deal with Republicans to expand universal mail-in voting, which deeply hurts Republican areas and deeply benefits blue areas.
Pay attention to those things.
But I don't, I just, we've got to maintain that we're going to win mentality.
And not be too focused on... Sure.
george alexopoulos
I definitely don't want to reinforce the idea that we may as well not bother because they're going to cheat.
I still think Red Team can overwhelmingly win just by convincing family members, say you've got people at church, that...
Don't vote because they just don't want to, or maybe they're lazy or something.
Just convince them how important it is.
And they already know how important it is.
tim pool
Here's the other issue I have.
Like, if you think they are cheating, why aren't the other side, why isn't the other side cheating?
Like, why is it only ever the opponents of your person?
george alexopoulos
I just want lots of accountability.
tim pool
Those are awesome, by the way, the green tea.
george alexopoulos
These, man, I got a story to tell you about this later.
No, I love these.
They're sugar free and they're super good for me.
tim pool
Yeah.
unidentified
You know.
tim pool
Anyway, anyway, I'll tell you later. You know, it's it's it's always like the other side is cheating and it's just like
If you think the establishment republicans aren't playing games, you know what I mean? It's it's one big political
machine, right?
george alexopoulos
That's what i'm that's what i'm saying. I would love accountability on both sides. Yeah, especially with the
ian crossland
machines themselves Right now we've got... Paper, man, I would love it.
Or at least digital machines with transparent algorithms so that we can watch the counts happen in real time, and then you can verify your vote.
As opposed to what they did, and what they have been doing, is that they were tallying them in back rooms with proprietary software code, so we can't verify that the votes are even being tallied properly.
I need verification.
tim pool
Ian, you are completely correct.
The first thing that we need to do is open source, publicly accessible source code on all of our voting equipment.
george alexopoulos
Why not?
tim pool
Or a switch to paper ballots or something.
Or both.
Or both, yeah.
Yep, yep, yep.
ian crossland
I think a three-step, like a three barriers would be so you have your paper, you have your digital machine thing, and then you have a blockchain tally as well.
george alexopoulos
So we're relatively young in that we understand what it means to say open source, but how do we convince people in like the legislator branches what this means and why it's important?
I don't think they know.
tim pool
Public accountability.
Public accountability systems.
Private companies controlling our elections is a conflict of interest.
hannah claire brimelow
I think they would all get that.
I mean, these are all words that they were familiar with.
tim pool
Universal voting access.
ian crossland
Sure, voter transparency.
I want to point you guys at a video of a testimony a guy gave in front of Congress, if you want to say what can we do with Congress, about building an algorithm in a voting machine that changes the vote 51-49.
And that no one, unless you have the source code, you wouldn't know that it's doing it.
Or unless you could run it up against the actual paper ballots, you wouldn't know that anyone's doing it.
That's his testimony.
george alexopoulos
It's like when you ask them, how do we know it's secure?
It's hashtag trust me, bro.
lydia smith
Yeah, it really is.
george alexopoulos
Come on.
It's so easy to verify.
ian crossland
His testimony said that in the year 2000, he built this for an Ohio, uh, was it a Senator?
I should be able to have this, this thing bookmarked, this testimony bookmarked.
It's on YouTube.
I'll pull it up within a minute.
hannah claire brimelow
I think one of the most striking things about this is that she's so, I mean, I think we have this idea that like when people get to the, you know, she won her democratic primary, uh, that they'll start trying to court the independent vote and move to a more moderate position.
But with this, Kogel is just like blatantly going farther left.
She is trying to completely activate only democratic voters.
And that is fascinating to me.
She thinks she can win on complete liberal rage alone.
tim pool
We need to activate nuclear dark ultramaga.
lydia smith
Yeah.
ian crossland
This is the testimony that people need to see.
It's Eugene.
The video on YouTube, if you want to watch, is called American Election Hacker Testifies.
And it's from, I don't know, 10 years ago or something.
But the guy's name is Clinton Eugene Curtis.
He testified under oath in front of the U.S.
House Judiciary members in Ohio that Tom Feeney in the year 2000 had him build a prototype software package that would secretly rig an election to sway the result 5149 to a specified side.
Under oath testimony that he built that for Tom Feeney.
tim pool
I've gone to a whole bunch of the DEF CON conferences, and they have the Voting Hacker Village or something like that, where they have a bunch of different voting machines, and they're all just having a good time breaking into them.
So open source can help solve a lot of that, because it allows the public to scrutinize how the system is being operated.
That's really important.
george alexopoulos
At least the voting machines can't handshake with some machine remotely a million miles away.
Yeah, they can't have it so that you can't, it doesn't connect to anything outside.
ian crossland
Like, um, that would be nice too.
But like, so with a proprietary software voting machine, you could have like a hundred people vote and the machines like, if the vote is this, then subtract 10 from side A. And so there'll be a thing, but if you don't have the code to see the math of what it's telling you what to subtract and what to add, you wouldn't know that it's moving the votes.
But if you can see the code, then you'll see, oh, there's something telling The machine to subtract 10 if that's not right.
It shouldn't be doing that.
It should just be doing an honest tally.
george alexopoulos
That's where we say accountability.
Like honestly this kind of code, I'm not like an expert by any means and you know way more than me, but I'm sure like most amateur coders know how to tally things.
This is not difficult.
It's trying to account for all the weird things like what if I scan a vote and it doesn't go through and then we have to scan it again.
Does it delete the original scan?
tim pool
Should the ballots be serialized so that there can't be repeats?
You know what I mean?
unidentified
Yeah.
george alexopoulos
I mean, these are real, like, easy questions.
tim pool
Bitcoin could solve this.
Crypto could solve this.
We've talked about crypto voting, but if we just do like a hybridized system where when you vote, your ballot has a cryptographic association with your name and your registration, then you don't got to worry about them going through the machine twice or anything like that.
It's like, you know, rejected already in the system.
Let me talk to you about the way in which I think we are seeing dirty, underhanded tactics to try and win in these elections.
From TimCast.com, Sandy Hook families ask judge to remove Alex Jones from control of his company.
Now, I don't mean to say this story literally, specifically is Democratic operatives trying to cheat.
What I'm saying is the things we have seen levied at Alex Jones in general are destroying his ability to run his company.
And along with many other people, the censorship ramped up tremendously in 2018.
And is still persistent with now the revelation that the FBI made a request to Facebook, and then Facebook was like, oh, we better censor this Hunter Biden laptop stuff.
The moves made against Donald Trump, the moves made to censor stories, the destruction of Alex Jones in Infowars and all that stuff, and for all of the things you can criticize him for, I get it, I get it.
The fact is, they're going after speech.
This would not be necessary if they were winning.
They wouldn't need to go after Alex Jones unless Alex Jones was actually a threat to the establishment.
george alexopoulos
Just saying his name is giving him publicity.
tim pool
That's right.
What's happening now is, in the lawsuit, the families are alleging that he's funneling money to Free Speech Systems, his company, is funneling money to a family member.
I say, according to the motion, Free Speech Systems claims to owe a massive secure debt to an insider that was first reported when the cases against Jones began, but no records show that debt existed prior to the lawsuit.
Attorneys for the families are now requesting a bankruptcy trustee assume control of his company.
They have also requested the court appoint a tort claimants committee to investigate free speech systems business dealings and for the court to remove FSS as the debtor in possession.
This is kind of crazy, because people talked about this when Jones lost his lawsuit, or I shouldn't say when he lost it, he was in default, but when he was sentenced to pay, you know, 45 million or whatever, 50 million.
Imagine you cut a deal with someone.
Legit.
Then they get sued.
Or let's say they're getting sued.
And you don't know.
And you do a deal with them.
Now the court's coming after you and they're going to take from you because of something he did.
How is that legal?
That to me is crazy.
ian crossland
I would think that that would not be.
tim pool
That's what they're doing.
They're basically saying that the other people who Alex owes money to is illegitimate and should be basically suspended.
That's kind of crazy, isn't it?
george alexopoulos
Desperation.
tim pool
This is what I think.
Well, look, the families are asking it, and I think that has a lot to do with they want the money that they sued him over, and if he's broke, ain't no money to get.
So this is the course they take.
But my point is, you are seeing a lot of stuff launched at Alex Jones.
You are seeing a lot of stuff launched at a ton of people, and it's going to get crazier.
You think the midterms are crazy?
It's like we're a couple months out, and it's getting nuts.
They raided a former president's home unprecedented.
Imagine 2023, 2024.
lydia smith
It's almost like they're throwing spaghetti at a wall because they're hoping some of it will stick.
That's exactly what it feels like to me.
And it does look like desperation.
Like, they're getting crazy.
tim pool
This is how you know when your spaghetti's done.
You guys know this, right?
lydia smith
You throw it at the wall, it sticks.
tim pool
You pull out a thing, you throw it at the wall, if it sticks, good to you.
lydia smith
I'm gonna start doing that.
george alexopoulos
You know what's good about, say, an Alex Jones type of person, not to speak for him or anything, but a lot of people on the right are people of faith, let's say.
You get a Marjorie Taylor Greene or something like that.
They are trained because of their faith to, we are, it's like we're conditioned to suffer and take it.
And that's when the qualities of the right shine the most, is when you're oppressing them.
And it's like, wait, why aren't you staying down?
Why do you keep getting up?
And it's like, no, I actually kind of love this.
I think that... Oh, no, it's just they worship a guy whose whole shtick is he was beaten to death and then he came back to life.
So it's like the more you oppress, say, a Christian or something like that, Judeo-Christian perhaps.
The more they're like, oh wait, I'm actually more in alignment with the person who I'm supposed to be emulating.
ian crossland
I find that to sigh up.
I think that the Catholic Church on purpose made people believe that they're supposed to suffer and that they're bad so that they would become servants to the church.
lydia smith
Okay, so this is actually something that Viktor Frankl observed in his time and Fyodor Dostoevsky also observed it in his time in concentration camp in Soviet Russia.
He observed that people who followed religions were impossible to stop.
You could not keep them down.
They firmly believed that they were following what was true.
And I think that's and I can you can obviously prove that that's 100% divorce from the church.
It had nothing to do with the church.
This is something that they held inside themselves.
george alexopoulos
They're taught scripturally.
lydia smith
Exactly.
george alexopoulos
This is what like the hardcore disciples in say the book of Acts or something.
lydia smith
Yeah.
george alexopoulos
You're the most in alignment.
You're the closest to being like the disciples who like, they're like, no, please torture me more so that my resurrection is better.
lydia smith
Yeah.
unidentified
St.
george alexopoulos
Paul has said something like that, where it's like, I want to have an even more, uh, even, uh, I don't know.
I want to get more buff points or something when, when I level up and when I'm resurrected.
No, because at the very core of what they believe is that, I mean, they don't talk about this very often, maybe I'm going on a tangent, but at the core of Christianity is you expect to be resurrected.
So even if you're thrown to the lions, literally in early biblical times, tortured to death, whatever, that actually brings you closer to, it's kind of like if you're not being tortured, maybe you're doing something wrong.
lydia smith
Right.
In fact, in Revelation, one of the things they were talking about was how God despised the lukewarm church.
He's like, you are neither hot nor cold.
And for that reason, I spit you out of my mouth.
george alexopoulos
You're just kind of there.
lydia smith
You're just there.
george alexopoulos
But I was talking about this the other day.
Well, I'm not going to apologize.
But talking about lukewarm Christians and that sort of thing.
And even with the vaccine mandates, and you weren't allowed to go to church or any of that stuff.
I would still hear stories about people going to church and meeting anyway, even though the state told them they weren't allowed to.
And it's like, that's where you find where the lukewarm Christians were, is the ones who kind of just like, oh, I'll do whatever the state tells me to.
It's like, no, actually, in the early church, again, we were meeting underground when you could be found and killed.
You know, you remember, you know, the origin of the Jesus fish?
tim pool
I was going to say that!
lydia smith
That's what I was going to say!
tim pool
One person would draw a crescent, and then the other person would finish it, creating the shape of a fish.
george alexopoulos
Secret message.
We are fishers of men.
Honestly, that's when you feel the heat of your faith really, is when you can die for it, but you still believe it anyway.
So I have family members who are so, not to say too much out of respect, but like, I know one that was facing their death, let's say, or is facing their death.
And that is when they are the most themselves and everyone's like, how are you holding it together?
And it's like, no, I'm going to go see Jesus soon.
Yeah, yeah.
So again, I'm complimenting Christians in the sense of like, the more you push them, the more you force them to like, hey, we're gonna be mean to you and we're gonna dox you or we're gonna swat you.
They love it.
And actually, I don't know if the left understands this because maybe they don't believe anything.
hannah claire brimelow
I think they don't really believe in Christianity because they dismiss it sort of outright.
But like throughout the Christian Bible there are the reminders of like set your mind on the things above.
I think there's a verse in Colossians about that where it's a constant reminder that like what's happening on earth is not your ultimate end goal.
And I think if you aren't a person of faith that's very difficult to embrace because like the idea of eternity and the consequences of your actions here You know, for some people, this is all you have.
And so you have to do whatever, like, whatever your ultimate ideology is, you have to pursue it intensely, whereas Christians aren't driven that way.
tim pool
I want to address, you know, you were mentioning about getting backed into a corner.
And then, you know, what were you talking about?
Did you say a rat?
Or what would you say?
george alexopoulos
Just like, no, just if I'm forced to retreat, eventually, there's going to be a cliff behind me.
tim pool
You know what I was thinking?
Do you guys see that video of the lady being attacked by the rabid fox?
lydia smith
Yeah, what the heck was that?
tim pool
That made me feel like the Summer of Love, like the analogy.
It's like, you're sitting there minding your own business, you're watering your lawn, and a rabid fox just runs up and attacks you for no reason.
And you try and kick it off, but it keeps biting you.
Then it bites onto her hand, and she's like swinging it around and then throws it, and then she's got a gash, and she's got puncture wounds, then she's got to get the rabies shot, and it's like, man, she didn't even do anything to anybody, right?
That's how it felt with, like, the BLM riots.
So a lot of people talk about how, you know, someone super chatted, the establishment is losing, but a cornered rat bites the hardest.
And I'm like, you got two choices.
You can go and water your flowers and mind your own business and the rabid fox attacks you, or you can be proactive and chase it off with the hose, because they're hydrophobic, and then it might get into a corner and freak out, but what do you choose?
Do you choose to say, I'm not going to allow you to come into my house, or are you going to say, I'm just going to go over here and ignore you and then you're eventually going to bite me?
I think being proactive and saying no.
Just saying no.
Standing up, even if it means, you know, backing the establishment to a corner.
ian crossland
That's the problem I have.
I do believe that faith in God or in a perception in something greater than the physical experience that we're having is important.
And it gives me faith in saying what I believe, regardless of consequences, often.
The feeling of being okay to be a servant is disturbing to me because I think that's church propaganda, that they want people to be subservient so that they don't rise up and overthrow corrupt governments and systems.
And I don't like seeing people backed into a corner.
I don't like seeing people act out of fear.
I don't think they should have to.
And if you're proactive, you don't have to because you put yourself in a position of stability.
tim pool
Here's what everyone's got to do.
When someone's being mean to you on Twitter, respond by just being nice.
Even if you don't want to.
Swallow your pride.
Swallow your pride.
And then when someone says something nasty to you, just say something nice back and leave it at that.
ian crossland
Choke on the ride.
tim pool
I don't know what that means, but... Keep it empty inside your ear.
I mean, quite literally, a lot of people will be like, this person slighted me.
I'm not going to.
And I'm saying, swallow your pride.
It means don't stand up and be like, I refuse to accept.
No, no, you have to accept that in strategy and being a tactician requires winning.
Winning is not.
Someone insults you so you insult them back.
All you're doing is flinging mud.
If you really want to win and someone insults you, you be nice to them and completely stop the fight.
The fight you win is the fight you don't engage in.
So that's what I'm saying.
george alexopoulos
Well, an interesting thing also to consider, to add to what you were saying, Ian, is at the bottom level or the top level of Christianity, I don't think a lot of them practicing understand how crazy this is.
They actually think that they will be resurrected, like actually.
And not in an abstract way.
They mean like bodily, like in X thousand years.
tim pool
Yeah, but I'm not sure... A lot of people probably don't believe it.
george alexopoulos
It's too crazy.
tim pool
I think that when I talk to the learned religious folk, they don't say stuff like that.
george alexopoulos
It's too weird.
ian crossland
It's disturbing because there's the thing of if you're a servant and you let yourself be controlled now, later you'll be a king.
And you're like, that's just a manipulation tactic to get people to serve, I believe.
george alexopoulos
One could say that.
I mean, biblically speaking, one could try to argue that those verses were added later on down the road.
Like when you look at the different Manuscript translations and they have found a lot of old Manuscripts that are super super close to when the disciples had written most of the New Testament the Apostle and It's pretty much They have not changed very much.
ian crossland
Yeah consciousness dude is gonna rise your spirit is alive and active well, maybe not alive in the sense of our bodies, but it's it's a it's a Momentous organism you could say it's not of course.
It's not an organism.
It's not carbon-based but Whether you're a slave in life or you're a hero in life, your soul is still going to live on.
It's still going to be there after.
george alexopoulos
Well, in that sense, too, like you could just say the Christian is embodying what Jesus did.
Jesus still lives on through them, by them continuing what he said and basically promised.
So when and to go back to why an American would stand their ground and why we love standing our ground culturally, we are certain that by doing that the next generations who inherit America from us are going to benefit by copying that behavior.
I'm going to stand my ground and not retreat and that will probably end up preserving the country as opposed to if I keep backing away and ceding ground to enemies who keep trying to push me.
they will, they don't even have to fight me and they'll win the
ground. But if I stand my ground and force them to fight and
engage me, it's going to get ugly. And maybe it's going to cost them more than they want to pay. And I'm sorry, I know
I'm just and forcing people to take, you know, they say turn
the other cheek. It's like, No, I am in fact willing to let you
hit me. And I'm daring you now to hurt me even more, because
eventually that will make me win by default.
You are the aggressor, you lose.
Like, look what happened to Rome.
It became Christian because they kept... It was originally a secret religion, and you were killed for believing it, but eventually it became the religion of Rome.
Because, among other reasons, they were persecuting them so hard, everybody became a Christian.
tim pool
So I think about this with the raid on Donald Trump, and it looks like they're trying to indict him on something.
I've said it before.
A lot of world leaders, historical leaders, good and bad, the persecution led them to rise to power.
Good leaders that we like in history and bad leaders we don't like in history.
You know, making someone into a political martyr doesn't tend to work out for their enemies.
george alexopoulos
It makes you look like, hey, why are you being mean to him?
I'm gonna go support him.
I want to support the underdog.
hannah claire brimelow
I think that's why this like, attempted complete decimation of Alex Jones at Infowars as a whole is miscalculated.
I think there is like, if you are part of the Sandy Hook family, it's much more emotional.
I think there are politics behind it.
But of course, there's it's more complicated.
But I think Ultimately they need Alex Jones to not become a martyr so they need a complete wipe out.
They can't leave any remnants of what he's left behind because in one in a lot of ways he was a huge he was a gateway for a lot of people to become supportive of Donald Trump and they can't have that again.
tim pool
I think it was James Lindsay who mentioned in the show that he was on a plane with a woman, and then she said that she didn't like Trump, but this raid against him was wrong, and it was a step too far.
They shocked the system hard, and I think... Let's actually just jump to the story, okay?
So we have this from the Wall Street Journal.
Judge orders Justice Department to release redacted affidavit leading to search of Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago home.
I'll put it simply for you guys.
The affidavit is mostly redacted.
We don't even know half of the stuff in there is.
From the sounds of it, Donald Trump was in communication, Donald Trump's people were in communications with the National Archives.
They said, you have stuff that you took from the White House that's, you know, part of the archives.
The boxes Trump had, 15, contained newspaper clippings, magazines, personal memos, and some classified information.
george alexopoulos
Women's underwear.
tim pool
Perhaps.
Donald Trump's people returned those boxes.
The FBI then said, when they were told by the National Archives, they believed that was probable cause, that Donald Trump still had more stuff in his house, and therefore, they should raid him.
They then found 11 stacks, like packets of documents, and took them because they were classified.
Kash Patel mentioned the president declassified these things, they shouldn't have taken them.
It sounds like they knew Trump had crossfire hurricane, Russia gate documents, that were going to potentially implicate, or at the very least, besmirch I don't know.
I mean, did Donald Trump not have copies of whatever these documents were?
seize. This sounds dangerously corrupt and dirty. And, uh, I don't, I don't know. I mean,
did Donald Trump not have copies of whatever these documents were as he's an old guy. So maybe, but
I don't know if I believe there was any reason that would warrant what they did at Trump's house
because he was cooperating.
He'd already turned over these items.
ian crossland
Yeah, that's like if there was a gun recall and they're like, turn in your guns and you turn in your gun and then they're like, hey, that's evidence that you might have more guns.
We're going to break into your house and check.
george alexopoulos
Like what?
ian crossland
No, no, no, no, no.
I did what you asked.
I returned the item.
Maybe it had been a... If you're like, return your contraband items.
If there's like a drug recall, return your cocaine.
You return it.
You get rid of it.
Like there are societies where they're like, here, dispense it there.
Then they use that as a reason to go check your... That's insanity.
No.
hannah claire brimelow
I just think it's unrealistic to think any government entity asks you to turn in something like with like blinders on, right?
They're not... They never granted anyone immunity.
They asked him to turn in something And it immediately gave them cause.
If you turned in drug paraphernalia or guns, like, of course, then they're gonna be like, well, we know you have a history of owning drug paraphernalia or guns.
Like, we're gonna continue down this road.
tim pool
How about that completely fake story about nuclear documents?
unidentified
Oh yeah!
tim pool
The Washington Post was like, they were looking for nuclear documents.
And then I see all these leftists and they're like, Trump stole 300 nuclear documents and the right's defending him.
And then it turns out the warrant was just like, we would like all documents at any point during your presidency that you may have.
It's like, okay, well, they were looking for literally anything.
It's called a fishing expedition.
They gave themselves a broad warrant to take whatever they wanted.
It really does sound like they're scared that those documents from Crossfire Hurricane will get out.
Now, I have to wonder this.
Why didn't Trump just release them if that's the case?
Perhaps Trump was preparing an October surprise when he was announcing he would be running for president and then he would say, boom, here's the story.
And they wanted to stop him.
hannah claire brimelow
That would make sense.
tim pool
Maybe.
I don't know.
hannah claire brimelow
I think it's also notable, like we talked about this a little bit before, but they didn't leak this.
I mean, Trump is the one who announced to the world that they were raiding his house.
This was not leaked to the press beforehand.
I don't think the FBI wanted anyone to know this is what they were doing.
george alexopoulos
They wanted to turn off the surveillance cameras and stuff, I remember.
hannah claire brimelow
They wanted it to be, they wanted to have the element of surprise and, you know, have this happen clandestinely until they had decided what they had found to then tell you about it.
And again, Donald Trump kind of interrupted that narrative by being like, no, they're at my house, like, let's all pay attention to this.
And everyone was shocked by it.
I mean, I don't think anyone had a clear explanation.
I think on the left, there was a lot of scrambling to come up with like a good reason why they would have done this.
Especially when they knew he wasn't there.
That was one of the things that bothered me.
It was known that he was in New Jersey because of a golf tournament at the time.
They specifically picked a time when he wouldn't be there to do this.
tim pool
The same FBI team that oversaw the Russia investigation raids his house to take documents that people are saying was from the Russia investigation.
Sounds like there's corruption afoot.
ian crossland
Yeah, like they've been on the track to start this to transition to a new world order, like, you know, reduce, I don't know what they're doing with the American military bases, but just like from the liberal world order to the new world order, and Donald Trump was slowing it down.
And then so so behind the scenes, they're like, we just don't want him slowing us down.
But in public, they're like, he's a villain.
So hate him so that you don't elect him again.
george alexopoulos
I mean, he said he was going to dismantle a lot of that stuff anyway in a second term if he ever got one or something like that.
unidentified
That's right.
tim pool
I'm looking forward to it.
george alexopoulos
We were saying that desperation leads to mistakes, and there's no way we can look at this aside from, this was a mistake.
They're making moves that suggest that if they didn't do it, they would get dismantled.
So we may as well do something really crazy to try to save ourselves.
Because if we don't, we're going to lose anyway.
So now they're losing reputation by doing things like this.
ian crossland
I think if there if we start being honest with ourselves and each other that like, yeah, it's inevitable, man, we're globalizing this world is coming together in a new way.
It's we're not going to be the king of the hill.
American is we're never supposed to be like the top leader ever.
And we're part of it.
george alexopoulos
Well, I'm okay with America.
I mean, I'm ignorant, so when I say this, take it with a grain of salt.
I'm okay with America just kind of cooling it off a little bit.
Let's focus on ourselves, getting it together here for a little while before, like, it's like that verse, not to quote too many things, of like, before you tell your friend, hey, you've got a plank in your eye, or no, you've got a speck of dust.
I've got a plank in my eye.
How about America cleans its own act up before telling the rest of the world how to, you know, operate themselves?
And if the rest of the world wants to drive themselves into a hole in a socialist nightmare, whatever, the downside to that is that we lose access to resources and, you know, our advantage across the planet.
But maybe we need to focus on ourselves for a little while to clean up.
tim pool
America's been acting like, you know, it's this dude who's got a bunch of credit card debt.
Can't pay it off keeps taking out more loans Instead and then going around and just yelling at the neighbors about how they got to pay up and give them money Yeah, it's like me going to your house and saying I don't like where your furniture is Let me start moving things around but my house is a mess Well, I think, you know, just to be a little bit more specific, the US is just like riddled with debt and then basically just printing money behind the scenes to satiate its addictions while criticizing, you know, it's just a completely broken system.
george alexopoulos
All right.
So they're going to pass on that debt to the next generation.
So maybe they're assuming that the next generation is going to do really good and we'll be able to, our kids will be able to pay that bill.
That's the optimistic way to look at it.
ian crossland
That's modern monetary theory, is that you print enough, go into deficit, and that you are able to build enough industry and infrastructure that the product starts to outweigh the debt, and eventually you bypass the investiture.
The problem is that we haven't been investing in industry properly in the last 10 years.
tim pool
That's the lie.
That's what they want you to think to make it make sense.
They want you to think that, no, no, no, look, we're going to deficit spend.
I know, you're right, it's bad.
But we're going to build these factories and it's going to make up for it.
No, there always has to be more debt.
There always has to be more debt to keep the machine churning.
And all they do is, it's a Ponzi scheme.
Remember when Obama did that stimulus where he just basically gave people money? It's like,
all right, everybody get free money. Then they did it again.
They did it with COVID. It's like, everybody here, more, more free money. Now they're talking
about how disposable income is so high that people are not working. And I'm like, are
you kidding me?
And now they're doing debt forgiveness. I look at the student debt forgiveness stuff,
and I think it's in line with their policy of just throwing money at people. And I wonder why that is.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, I also think it's part of their policy of we're going to give you the good headlines, right?
But Joe Biden's going to be the I left Afghanistan and cancelled student debt president.
But it's a soundbite.
None of it is real.
I mean, as you have said before.
tim pool
It's more than that.
They gave free money, unemployment.
They gave free money, bonus checks.
They deferred student loans and now they're paying student loans.
They're doing a whole bunch of things that basically just distribute wealth.
Two other, two people.
george alexopoulos
What's monopoly money?
tim pool
They're just, yeah, but like, they're flooding the system.
It's going to cause hyperinflation and destroy it.
It feels like it's on purpose.
When they announced, when Biden's like, I'm gonna cancel student debt!
It's like, after you already gave all of these people free money for not working?
You deferred their payments, gave them unemployment guarantees with bonuses on top, And they did not pay their debts?
Oh, but they didn't have to.
Now their debts are kicking back in.
Don't worry, we delayed another four months.
And we're gonna pay down ten grand of it.
It's like, why didn't they just use the money they were getting for free to pay down what they had to pay down?
They just keep throwing money at people.
And where's that money coming from?
Your pocket.
ian crossland
The Federal Reserve.
It's what's happening is they're getting it from the Federal Reserve and then so they'll borrow a buck from the Federal Reserve but then we owe a dollar and one cent back.
So where's that one cent come from?
The Federal Reserve.
So now you owe interest on the money you took out to pay the interest.
Sort of.
That's the Ponzi scheme.
tim pool
Tax money does go to the federal government.
They do use your money and then they deficit spend by borrowing money and doing fractional reserve money creation stuff.
But a lot of the money that's being distributed is literally just your tax dollars that went to the government.
So the funny thing is right now These leftists are like, if you forgive student loan debt, you're just erasing the debt from the books.
It's like, you are correct, but that means the money that we gave you, our money, is not coming back.
You have taken our money from us.
Now, I'm in favor of getting rid of the interest rates and trying to alleviate the student debt problem for sure, but taking money from the working class to pay for the laptop class does not sound like, you know, good policy.
george alexopoulos
It's they the more steps that you have it obscures what you're doing and it just confuses people like if I read a headline I'll just read the headline.
I'm not going to really look into it deeply.
Most people are very low resolution when it comes to reading the news or even understanding the news.
I don't have time to read deeply.
That's why I watch the news in the first place.
I want the quick story so I can quickly understand what's going on.
And the more steps, they're doing it on purpose, the more steps are involved.
John Doe, you know, going to work every day, nine to five, he's exhausted, he's got his kids, he's got his hobbies, he's tired all the time, he doesn't need to be thinking about all this.
And some of them, they package it in such a way that I'm happy, oh, minimum wage is now $15.
That's great.
But wait, why is milk now $5 when it used to be $2?
hannah claire brimelow
Well, let's never forget the Inflation Reduction Act.
I mean, Joe Biden wants to be the headline president where he's giving you these, like, do you remember all those good things I passed?
unidentified
It's all surface level.
I love it.
hannah claire brimelow
He doesn't want anyone to look into it.
And ultimately, he is causing extreme damage in his wake.
But he's going to come around and be like, no, no, the Democrats are the party of reducing inflation and, like, and forgiving students.
tim pool
This is the one thing that would make me want to run for office.
Is that if you're in Congress, you can come out there and be like, I'm proposing the Help the Small Babies Act.
george alexopoulos
Save the kitties.
tim pool
And what does the bill do?
It, like, takes $20 from every paycheck so that I can buy myself a house.
Like, just really egregiously awful things.
It'd be like, the bill just basically says, Tim Pool gets $20 of every American's paycheck and will be rich, but it's called, like, the Save the Dying Children Act.
Like, why won't you vote for this?
What's wrong with you?
There was a comic and it's like, the Free Beer Act.
You see this one?
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
tim pool
It's like, okay, so when do I get a free beer?
And it's like, what do you mean free beer?
The Free Beer Act just raises your taxes by 2%.
Yeah.
george alexopoulos
Well, I call it low resolution versus high resolution.
Most people, I mean, I'm stealing this from Peterson, sort of, but most people don't have time to, in graphics terms, a high resolution image takes more time to render.
So CPU wise.
If I have to read a full page of text to understand what this bill is versus just give me the headline, that's the low-resolution version.
ian crossland
What?
Oh, the problem with low resolution is you lose resolution.
tim pool
All the detail.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, and when you see this with articles, it'll have the big headline that's flashy, it'll have the first couple lines that have information, but any...
Any information that sort of sways or gives partisan, like if a publication wants you to have a certain view on an issue, they put it in the top third of the article because that's as bad as far as you're going to read and all the nuanced details are in the bottom two-thirds.
george alexopoulos
The bad news is in the... Right!
hannah claire brimelow
Anything that may contradict their claims and that's because they know that people won't read that far.
They just, I mean, there's so much media and so much information coming out at all times right now It's actually very difficult to stay well informed on everything, so I can't really fault the general public for that, but it is the easiest way to sway someone.
george alexopoulos
But they're playing the game in such a way that, like Democrats, I'll give them credit for this, most people don't have time to think about things this deeply.
The average person, you can call them stupid, but actually they're just busy probably.
That's why, with, I mean, not to toot my own horn too much, but that's why comics work so well, is because they say, like, you know, a picture's worth a thousand words, let's say.
But my comics have four panels.
Four thousand words?
Yeah.
unidentified
Wow.
george alexopoulos
So, it's like a zip file.
I don't remember if I've told, said this before.
A comic is like a zip file.
It's cross-referencing with like hyperlinks that you already made.
You might have read a story about this.
Now you're seeing four images that are related to that story.
But now you're thinking about other things that these images are now recalling memories from your memory and you're now filling in the blanks.
So my four images are now giving you a full essay in the span of five seconds, maybe less.
That's why images are so powerful, and that's why headlines are powerful, and that's why Twitter, I've said this forever, Twitter is comics.
It's just every tweet is like a panel, you're scrolling, you're scrolling, you're getting maybe an image.
That's why I will often attach an image to my tweets, because it makes you stop scrolling, what's this image?
It's very shocking to look at.
tim pool
Real quick, we pulled this panel up, this comic from George.
We have this comic hanging on our wall.
It's right to the left of George, actually.
You can't see it.
But it's Joe Biden.
And he says, it is estimated that 200 million people will die by the time I finish that talk.
And that time is now!
And then he fires force lightning from his hands and just electrocutes everyone in the crowd.
It's hilarious.
And their eyes are glowing.
There's lightning everywhere.
ian crossland
This is like a misspeak of Biden, too.
tim pool
He literally said this.
george alexopoulos
Yeah, he literally said he didn't say this time is now.
tim pool
No, I know.
But that's the point.
Like, people who see this are gonna be like, what's this about?
george alexopoulos
Yeah.
tim pool
And then someone's gonna say, like, that first panel is an actual quote from Joe Biden.
ian crossland
He was talking about COVID deaths, I believe.
And he accidentally said 200 million when he meant what, 200,000?
No, no, no.
tim pool
What he meant was, He said, what he meant to say was, it is estimated that by the time I finish this talk, there will be... No, you're right.
He was going to say, by the time I finish this talk, X amount of people will have died.
ian crossland
But it was like only 200,000 or something.
It was a lower number, but he said 200 million.
He said will die, not will have died.
unidentified
Oh, God.
tim pool
All his tenses are wrong.
unidentified
That's why it's important to have a good editor.
tim pool
But I just love how he just, the last panel of the guy screaming with like, being electrocuted by Biden's forced lightning.
george alexopoulos
So what we're doing is as we're scrolling, let's say I see this in my Twitter.
Nobody ever thinks about this, but it's what comics is.
I'm scrolling, I'm scrolling, I see someone getting electrocuted, I laugh.
I'm now bypassing all the firewalls and you're like, I don't remember what the frontal cortex.
I'm going straight to your amygdala.
I'm going into your deep brain.
You're laughing.
You don't even know why yet.
Now you're reading and now you're downloading that zip file that I gave you.
tim pool
And it says Valor Margolis on his Harris Biden.
ian crossland
I don't know the neurology about laughter and how it affects you.
george alexopoulos
Same with crying.
And fear.
If I go boo, you're not thinking, oh, I'm going to be scared.
It's just a reflex.
tim pool
This plays into what we were talking about earlier with why we're doing music.
We're creating funny, relatable, or entertaining spaces.
george alexopoulos
That's what the arts are.
tim pool
This is what regular people associate with.
This is what I was explaining earlier on one of my segments when I was shouting out the song we did.
When I used to do nonprofit fundraising, If you saw somebody like Ian in the street, and you walked up to him and went, excuse me, sir, just a moment of your time, and shook his hand and said, now I got a proposal for you.
Right now, he'd be like, bro, what are you talking about?
You gotta walk up to someone like Ian and go, bro!
High five him and be like, listen here, bro, you wanna save the trees, right?
ian crossland
Every day.
tim pool
You gotta talk to, you have to meet people where they are.
george alexopoulos
Relatable.
tim pool
You can't walk up to a guy in a suit, looking like Ian, and then be like, bro, you wanna save some trees?
He's gonna be like, I'm busy, I have no idea.
You gotta walk up to the guy who's a no-nonsense guy and be no-nonsense.
Listen, five seconds.
We gotta save trees.
I need you to pitch in.
You gonna do it?
Shake my hand, buddy.
unidentified
You have to meet people where they are.
tim pool
If you go to someone with a MAGA hat on and a Trump flag and start saying, listen, you need to understand, Donald Trump and Joe Biden, they're gonna be like, I have no idea who you are, I don't know what you're on about, and this is confusing to me.
But if you approach them from where they are, you know, you notice that they've got, like, a Cubs hat.
You could be like, Cubs!
What up, man?
You from Chicago?
Be like, oh, I got family from Chicago.
Meet them where they are, open a conversation, and then find out where you can come together and you can share those important ideas.
That's what art does.
People will see this, and whether you're political or not, it's funny, Joe Biden's electrocuting a bunch of people.
It opens the door.
george alexopoulos
It can stimulate things like empathy.
Here's a story that maybe you wouldn't have been open to the message of the story, but I have told it in such a way that now you're, oh yeah, I do relate to those characters.
I do feel bad for them, or I do feel what they're feeling, and now I'm starting to think the way they are.
tim pool
I relate to Joe Biden here wanting to use force lightning to vaporize 200 million people.
ian crossland
It's just coming out of him, yeah.
tim pool
I saw that and I was like, I know exactly how you feel, Joe.
hannah claire brimelow
I think we have this illusion that people are more politically engaged because politics has seeped into so much of our culture.
It's in our popular culture.
It's bled into art.
We hear about a lot and I think that's true even of people who don't work in my field.
But actually most people aren't that interested.
They do like comics.
They like things that are more accessible to them.
So I think you're totally right that having something, if I were to send someone a CNN headline or a Fox News headline, you know, they might already have their guard up.
Whereas art or something that they're interested in on a medium that they're already scrolling through, Twitter, is much more accessible and also more enjoyable because they don't feel like they're going to be immediately sorted into some sort of category.
george alexopoulos
Well, the news a lot of the time is very dry, and I just don't want to download all this information.
But if I'm online scrolling, maybe I'm on the toilet or something, I'm on the bus, I just want to be entertained.
I want to laugh, I want to smile, I want to see something interesting.
tim pool
I want to be entertained when I'm on the toilet.
lydia smith
That's right.
tim pool
You know, I used to have these things called bathroom readers, like at my house, and they're just books full of random trivia that you're supposed to read when you're taking a dump.
ian crossland
Yeah, I got one in my bathroom that says, what is your poo telling you, is the name of the book.
tim pool
Okay.
Well, that's not what I was saying.
The book I read was just like, it was called The Bathroom Reader.
And it had on the bottom of every page, a factoid.
And then it had chapters of like random stories and legends and facts.
And it just filled my brain up with random nonsense.
lydia smith
Is that why you know the name of that law?
tim pool
Well, that's a, that's a journalism thing.
You know, I hate, I despise the corporate press so much that I've like, yes.
How can I criticize them today?
ian crossland
What do you guys think about removing titles from bills?
Just having them numbered.
hannah claire brimelow
I think we get too confusing.
george alexopoulos
I think Bill should be chopped up into the individual things that they're trying to pass and not turned into omnibuses.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The Confederates said that, didn't they?
lydia smith
They did, yeah.
This is actually really interesting.
They had something that said something like, it has to be a really short summary of war.
One page, something like that.
tim pool
They were busy, they had stuff to do.
One issue, could address one issue.
george alexopoulos
But they know they can't inject all their stupid crap in there.
ian crossland
Because even with one section of a bill, you could still call it the happy, lucky bill and then all about people.
george alexopoulos
You give me a hundred bucks.
tim pool
It's a bill called like the saving Ian and helping him live a happy life bill.
But the bill calls for the imprisonment.
ian crossland
For me to chop wood all day.
tim pool
Yeah, like to be imprisoned.
And it's like, well, because we think that'll be good for him.
lydia smith
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
You think you're helping.
ian crossland
I don't like the names.
They're very manipulative.
tim pool
Oh, the Patriot Act.
george alexopoulos
Come on.
It's garbage.
tim pool
And people fall for it.
george alexopoulos
There was one more thing I wanted to add on that subject too, is the fact that the left has annexed all of the arts, it was not an accident.
They know that people are bored of news.
The only way to, it's like Inception, to give you the thoughts that I want to give you, I'm going to tell you a story or a parable.
So they will spend millions and bazillions of dollars Uh, creating movies, writing stories, songs, anything related to the arts, and that's why they've taken over all of the arts.
I'm not joking, they've taken over all of the arts because that's how you can persuade people without even... they don't even know it.
tim pool
And they know that it's much harder to convince someone who does know To invest in those spaces.
What do you see across the board among those who are aware of what's going on?
Everything they do is political.
This is what frustrates me.
We get a bunch of really great songs, and I don't think it's bad.
the top ranking songs overtly political.
FJB, like three different FJB songs reached up.
Okay, that's still a net positive because regular people will see like,
how come the top songs are FJB?
But they're not gonna convince most people.
It does create some awareness.
People who are aware, red pill, whatever you wanna call it, it's harder to convince them to say like,
hey, subscribe to a children's channel that's like family education content
because they're gonna be like, how is this engaging in the battle
to fight against these ideas.
Because it seems counterintuitive, but it's exactly what the left has been doing to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars.
george alexopoulos
For decades, maybe a century, over a century.
They did it to Hollywood.
They're doing it with music.
I mean, when we were kids, they were always talking in church about, oh, all this music's all about sex all the time.
But we are now seeing what happens when culture is hyper-sexualizing young people, let's say.
We're seeing what happens when that is unchecked.
We don't know... Like, I love manga, for instance.
If I go to the manga section, like, a lot of young people love it and stuff.
But those stories are actually... A lot of them can be pretty raunchy and, like, super rated, you know, X and stuff like that.
I could go to a local library.
I was telling a young person in my life, Hey, you should go to the library and read these mangas, but definitely don't read these ones.
I can't stop them from doing that.
But when they have access to entertainment, that is, let's say, let's say there's an agenda to push certain subjects on young people, especially because when they grow up, they will be more permissive towards these subjects.
The parents don't even know what these kids have access to.
hannah claire brimelow
No they don't.
I also think the art used to be a polite way like in polite culture you wouldn't discuss politics or anything too controversial so you talk about art you talk about what's going on and that was an easy way for certain ideologies to route into daily conversation.
george alexopoulos
Sneaking in there.
hannah claire brimelow
Jumped around it and because things are more blurred and because we have so many You know, I'm thinking like celebrities who come out with these big public statements about their political beliefs It's actually not the perfect escape route it once was and I think it's waking Conservatives up to the fact that like they abandoned this space before they even know they could use I mean they say in what's that?
tim pool
What was the number one song right now?
You looked at it.
ian crossland
Oh, yeah, I have it pulled up you pulled up only ever wanted I believe no We wish, we wish.
Super Freaky Girl by Nicki Minaj.
tim pool
Okay, I wonder what it's about.
ian crossland
Honestly, I don't know, but it sounds like- It's her looking pretty sexy in that picture, that's for sure.
tim pool
Remember when Ben Shapiro rapped that famous song, Wet Ass Pussy?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And it actually was really funny, because he, like, read the lyrics, and then someone took him reading it and put it off his song.
Actually really funny.
Yeah, hilarious.
Do you wonder why it is that when you look at the top tracks so often, the songs are not appropriate for kids?
Or that you actually have some artists that gloat and laugh at the idea that your kids listen to the horrible things they're talking about in this music?
Dude, don't ask me why, but the right abandoned this space a long time ago, and it probably has something to do with telling kids, like, you don't want to be a musician.
That's a waste of a career.
Like, you need to grow up and be a doctor or run a business.
george alexopoulos
They don't think that the arts, and I've been trying to convince them for the longest time, the arts are not a good investment, they might say.
But there's that saying of politics are downstream from culture.
When most young people who have more time than anybody else to consume media or anything like that, watch movies, anything, music, they have access to anything that you want to put into their brains without any supervision whatsoever.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I think Conservators Ensemble 2 rewards seriousness, or what they perceive as seriousness.
And so often when you're interested in creative activities, it's like, well, unless you can prove to me that you can make money off this right away, you know.
It's something you do on the side and you're enjoying the fun, whereas like...
You know, a credit to my friends who grew up in really liberal households, their parents, when they were passionate about something, did take basically everything seriously.
And, you know, there are pros and cons to both approaches, but I think that leaves the door open to people feeling like your art is incredibly important, you have to pursue it, to the point where it becomes influential, whereas, you know, often the other approach is to say, like, wait until you have the funds to finance your life as an art student.
tim pool
When I was younger, the liberals, where I grew up, were basically saying, you can do whatever you want to do, dream, dream big, you want to be an actor, you want to play video games, whatever it is you want to do.
The conservatives in my life were much more like, just work hard, get a good job, and make money.
george alexopoulos
There's no fun in there.
tim pool
But you get a lot of people, so I know, there are people that I knew that were very much into the arts when they were younger.
But they had very conservative parents, you know, I went to Catholic school for a little bit, and where are they now?
They have family, they have some kids, and really, they're very happy, good for them, I'm glad that they're leading a good life, and they're doing right by their kids.
But this also means that many of these kids did not pursue the arts that they were involved in, and thus, the people who did, and why is it they all do drugs all the time?
Where is it, you know, that where the rock stars who are just like, oh man, I'm sober.
I don't want to do any of that stuff.
I'm just about living a good life and doing right by my friends and family, my community.
george alexopoulos
Sure.
tim pool
That's like a rare thing to hear in like celebrity culture in Hollywood.
They're doing drugs.
They're like, you know, just raunchy.
You get it.
hannah claire brimelow
Have you ever seen that?
Sorry.
Have you ever seen the documentary The Other F Word?
It's about these punk rockers who like become fathers and kind of what their experience is.
It's it's really good.
And a lot of them talk about, there's one in particular who talks about like being on tour all the time and like partying and the culture that comes with that and he's like but the thing is like when you have kids like you may be up until 4 a.m.
doing drugs doing whatever but like your baby's gonna be up at 6 and you you have to get up with it and so it's a shift in mindset and I think that It is one of the challenges of being an artist or you know a lot of careers have this but like you have to sacrifice when you have other demands in your life and I think a lot of especially popular left-leaning artists now don't have those kind of responsibilities because they defer becoming parents and so they can continue to pursue this path and push the ideology.
tim pool
I want to say the right is learning, but I don't know if that's really what's happening.
I think what's happening is there are liberals who are joining the right.
That people who used to be into the arts and fairly left-leaning who are either forced out or who saw how crazy the left was getting and moved out.
So there's this movie coming out, My Son Hunter.
Is that what it is?
My Son Hunter, I think it's called?
Yeah, that's what it's called.
And the dude who put it together, I think he's the guy from Goonies, right?
unidentified
I'm not sure.
Which guy?
lydia smith
That's what you told me.
tim pool
Robert Davey?
lydia smith
Yeah, that's all I know is what you told me.
tim pool
The guy from Goonies?
So I'm thinking what's happening is that there are people who had the skills and know how to make this content Start realizing how crazy things are getting and are bringing that art and culture to the right and the right needs to support and embrace it.
Like The Daily Wire, they get it.
They've repeatedly said that we're not making political stuff, we're just making shows and movies and they're buying movies because they get it.
ian crossland
I think Jeremy, all those guys, man, Mike, Michael, Jeremy, they're an example of like, Perceptive tolerance, uh, I'm not on the left.
I mean, I was like, I guess you'd say a leftist.
I was a liberal, like, wacky zany artist my whole life.
And I just left because it was like, don't tell me I have white privilege.
You know, you got to use better words than that if you want to communicate with me, but I'm not going to be sitting told that I'm a, I'm an evil, I'm a demon.
I'm not living that way.
Uh, so I disassociated from those people, but people like Jeremy doesn't care.
Listen, he just loves people, you know?
He just likes cool people.
tim pool
They hired a Disney executive to be their chief marketing officer.
That means that this Disney executive now reports to a man who goes to church on Sunday.
lydia smith
Fascinating.
tim pool
That's seriously taken over the space and taken it away from them, so I hope they can continue to grow and expand, because the Daily Wire really needs those smart TV apps.
I know we do too, but I can just say, like, with the amount of resources they have, You know, they're going to get there before we do, but we've been having a bunch of meetings about getting our mobile apps and our TV apps so that you can watch what shows we have as soon as possible, you know, on your TVs.
ian crossland
I'm glad you brought up drugs earlier.
I think that that's an important part of art and culture and has been since the dawn of humanity.
And part of why there's a stagnancy in the industry right now is from all the pharmaceutical drugs that have taken the place of THC, which has been illegal for 100 years for stupid You know, Anslinger made it illegal with that, what was that, William Randolph Hearst printing all his propaganda to make weed illegal because he owned all the paper mills and he didn't want hemp newspapers anymore.
He wanted paper newspapers.
So they like colluded and then got weed made illegal.
And now they're, you know, we had the resurgence with the LSD thing in the 60s and you saw the Beatles, Elvis.
I mean, he was coked out of, I don't know what drugs Elvis was on, but I know he was on a lot of them.
And all the amazing, beautiful art created in the 60s and 70s was like part of the drug revolution.
george alexopoulos
Part of the allure of drugs.
I mean, I'm speaking as an artist, in air quotes, I don't drink, I don't do drugs or anything like that, but I'm still very much...
I understand that the whole point of Drugs To These People is to expand your mind, make the world more interesting, like see the truth behind, you know, people talk about DMT and all that stuff.
And I hear, I'm interested in the stories, I'm not going to do it myself.
But the whole idea is creating, you could say there's that personality trait openness and all that stuff.
openness to new experiences and generally the right is not super open to new experiences because their position is
that Life is good enough. Why change things but by our nature
artists are explorers and we need to be able to go to Places that are forbidden
Even if it's like illegal if I'm gonna smoke some whatever because I want to see what happens
Because I don't want to be stagnant That's where you get that term rolling stone, which is ironic because now the left is now the stagnant side of things, and the rolling stone which gathers no moss is now the right.
We're looking for a new way to move into the next century.
ian crossland
The problem with artists and why a lot of artists fail is because of the over-exploration and the obsessiveness with drugs, like they don't know where to put it down.
You need balance, and you have to be able to set it aside to create business if you want to be a successful artist.
tim pool
You mentioned illegality, and there's a few very important things about this.
I talk about it quite a bit.
The law doesn't matter as much as the culture does.
There are many things that are overtly illegal that our culture permits and completely to- like, is in movies, is totally- it's considered totally fine.
I started watching Breaking Bad.
I- because I never actually watched it, I've only watched parts of it.
And it's funny how in the first season, Walter White, who has- he's- the main character's got lung cancer, so he's like- he claims to be smoking pot and they're all shocked by it.
It's like, that's so weird because you go to any major city, even before decriminalization and legalization, everybody It was like movies talked about it.
Look at the movie Half Baked with Dave Chappelle.
A movie outright about a bunch of stoners.
Like that movie is literally a cultural icon and it's about a bunch of dudes
committing repeated felonies.
Like it's a crazy idea if you think about it.
ian crossland
I thought Breaking Bad was a cancer propaganda, like the cancer industry
Because in the show, he's always like, I need to get the treatment!
And the idea is, if he ever gets the treatment, the cancer will be gone.
tim pool
Have you watched it?
ian crossland
I watched like eight episodes of it.
tim pool
I don't think you watched it.
ian crossland
Yeah, I watched him obsess with the treatment.
tim pool
He's like, I refuse.
I won't take it.
ian crossland
He's like, I want to get, then he's like, I need to get the treatment.
His wife's like, you got to get the treatment.
tim pool
It's all about the treatment.
george alexopoulos
He couldn't afford it.
ian crossland
And then all of a sudden weed was bad in the movie.
tim pool
That's true.
I just want to say, like, I'm only on, like, episode 7, and a lot of people probably know more, but he outright says to her, I will not spend the rest of my days lying there listlessly gagging.
I won't do it.
ian crossland
Well, the premise of the first season, spoiler, I guess, alert, is that he's trying to get money to pay for the cancer treatment.
That's kind of the premise of the show and what leads him into the drug industry.
tim pool
I don't think that's true.
ian crossland
That's why he's making meth is to get money to buy the cancer treatment.
tim pool
He turns down free money.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
ian crossland
But he's, you know, his wife wants him to get the treatment.
tim pool
And then his colleague says, I'll pay for everything.
And he says, no.
And it's more so about, he breaks free from, he's like, I'm awake now.
And that's in like episode two.
His business partner comes in and says, don't worry, everything's covered.
And he goes, no.
He rejects it and then says, I don't want the treatment.
I will not spend my last days lying in bed as a burden to you.
I won't do it.
Then she convinced him to do it.
And then it's sort of about how he wants this money, but he gets way, like instantly he gets way more money than he needs.
I don't think the show is about him.
Again, I'm only on like episode seven, but it's like, Uh, right away, before he's even doing the drug dealing, he's talking about how good he feels breaking the law.
And then he bangs his wife outside of a school meeting and she's like, why was it so good?
He goes, because it was illegal.
It's not, he doesn't need the money.
I think that was a point they're trying to make.
ian crossland
No, he needs the treatment.
We're being told that if he gets the treatment, then it will be cured is what we're being told.
george alexopoulos
Walter White is two characters though.
He's not just Walter White, he's also Heisenberg.
So you're looking at the Carl Jung thing of the man versus his shadow and who eventually takes over.
I don't want to spoil anything, but it's really, you've got the milk toast, whatever.
The Walter White is you know fairly timid and then the Heisenberg comes out of him in the later seasons as he becomes more aggressive and he finds people who test him.
He essentially has to put Walter White away and become this other person in order to survive because now in the first season he's fighting cancer but in the future seasons he's fighting people who are not only threatening his life but But people around him.
tim pool
So I'm, again, like I'm only in the beginning seasons, but it's very obvious from the very first episodes that what's driving him is the exhilaration he gets from being put in these, like he's in an adrenaline rush.
ian crossland
That's the Heisenberg character starting to emerge.
That's an interesting philosophy.
george alexopoulos
It's the symbol of my shadow is taking over me now.
tim pool
I saw this episode when it first aired, the Fulminated Mercury episode, and it's just so good.
Have you seen that one?
He goes to Tuco and then he's like, he goes walk up and he's like, I want $50,000.
And then he starts laughing, he's like, 35 for the meth you stole and 15 for my partner's, you know, pain and suffering.
lydia smith
He's a gangster.
tim pool
And then Tuco laughs and he's like, you come here, you make demands, you bring more meth.
And he's like, he grabs it, it's not meth.
And then he throws it and it explodes.
When he gets back in the car, he goes, raaah!
george alexopoulos
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, it was very much about him feeling- That's Walter White dying.
george alexopoulos
He's not Walter White anymore.
tim pool
But anyway, my point was... Oh, your character's actually called White.
ian crossland
The name is White, like white light.
george alexopoulos
Yeah, I'm sure that's on purpose.
tim pool
My point was just that a lot of people claim the show is about a guy who's dying of cancer and needs money for a treatment.
ian crossland
No, no, not that the whole show's about that.
I'm just saying that insidious message was in there, I thought.
tim pool
But it's not.
ian crossland
Well, it was in the first season, for sure.
tim pool
No, you're wrong.
ian crossland
That's the purpose.
That's why he got into the whole thing to begin.
That was the inciting incident, was he got cancer, they needed to get an expensive cancer treatment.
Where am I going to get the money?
tim pool
He didn't want the treatment.
He refused it.
ian crossland
But his wife wanted it because we were being told, and Walter is being told.
And Walter's in denial.
tim pool
I'm just confused.
Did you watch it or not?
ian crossland
I watched about seven or eight episodes of it.
tim pool
Because I literally watched, I'm watching it last night, and correct me if I'm wrong guys, but he goes to his partner's house and he says, I will pay for everything and Walter says, no.
And then he tells his family in the next scene... Well, that's Heisenberg talking.
But then in the next scene he says, I'm not going to live this way.
He doesn't need to sell meth to pay for the treatment.
The point was he was choosing to be... He was exhilarated by being this bad guy.
ian crossland
That happens, yeah.
But in like the first three episodes, he's like a humble, weak guy.
And he's like, I'm scared.
And his wife's like, I'm scared.
Get the money.
We need money.
We need money.
You need the treatment.
Because I know chemo can destroy bodies.
unidentified
That's my point.
tim pool
I'm pretty sure the entire reason he started collecting money was not for the treatment, was to give his family money.
hannah claire brimelow
So like yeah that's what I've never seen I've only seen a couple episodes but that's what I thought it was I thought he wanted to be able to like he didn't want to go out like you know chemo is really demanding on the body he didn't want to be suffering and like kind of undignified and he I could be totally wrong I don't remember how many kids he has but like he wanted to leave them with something and that is goes into the like well If I know that I'm ultimately gonna die, like, what do I
have to lose?
ian crossland
Oh yeah, that was another thing I didn't like.
That's the first episode.
They were acting like cancer was a death sentence.
I don't like that propaganda.
george alexopoulos
But it's really a study of what would you do if you were in this situation.
tim pool
So he has stage three lung cancer or something.
ian crossland
He's probably eating too much cheese.
tim pool
Metastasized perhaps.
And I think like the first episode, his motivation for selling the drugs
was because he wanted to give his family money.
And then when he died, they'd have something.
Not that he wanted to save himself.
When his partner offers to pay for it all, he says, no, I don't want it.
And then he goes and he walks out with a bag of 50 grand.
He's now he's doing it because it's making him feel good.
But I don't think he ends up starting to get the treatment because his wife begs him to do it.
But it was he had the money.
ian crossland
And then I didn't watch this far, but I don't want to I don't want to spoil any more of it.
tim pool
I've seen the whole thing.
george alexopoulos
So the reason the whole show is popular anyway, why do people love the anti-hero archetype so much?
The idea of becoming... There are things that we can do, all of us, that are dark and cruel and wrong that would benefit us in the short term, but why don't we do it?
Because we live in a society.
It would be wrong to do it, but what happens if someone gets pushed?
How can you?
That's why this show is popular.
It asks you what would have to happen to you to push you beyond the point where it's like, I don't care if this is wrong anymore.
I'm going to do whatever it takes to get mine.
But then the show also, I think it dropped a ball in later seasons.
It doesn't ask, what are the consequences of all the things?
Like, how does it affect all the people that you victimized?
tim pool
Let's say.
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69 cents.
It is cost-effective and easy to get, and we actually don't need that much to have an impact in the music space.
I think that You know, if everybody watched, spent that 69 cents, a good number, right?
Elon Musk would love it.
Then we would force these institutions to recognize that, you know, we can make moves in this space.
And at the very least, let them retreat from it.
Tom McDonald has been absolutely destroying the music industry in a way that they're forced to write articles about him.
And they're like, is conservative rap a thing?
And it's like, oh, surprise, surprise.
I don't even think the dude's a conservative.
I think he's just pointing out y'all are nuts and it's working.
george alexopoulos
But Christian metal is a thing.
tim pool
Christian metal?
But it's not about, I think it's not like, look, if you want really effective Christian music, look at Creed.
They were big Christians, weren't they?
lydia smith
They were, I believe.
ian crossland
I have heard that, yes.
tim pool
But they wrote songs that appealed to regular people and admired them.
george alexopoulos
It's almost like Christians are people.
tim pool
If you write a song where you outright like, you know, raise your hands and praise, praise the Lord.
george alexopoulos
That doesn't, no, nobody can relate to it.
That's not already doing.
tim pool
But if you say arms wide open, I welcome you to this world or whatever.
george alexopoulos
Or just write a love song.
tim pool
Exactly.
All right.
Ready 2 Rumble says, Tim literally paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to get people to play with him in a band.
I did not nearly spend that much money, but we're investing heavily.
Maybe I should do an announcement like Daily Wire did and be like, we're dedicating X amount of dollars towards... For the record, I played music with Tim before he ever paid me any money.
ian crossland
And it's the company that pays us both.
tim pool
And we're actually... We are paying a lot of money to get people to play music, but we're going to be producing other people's music at our cost.
So it's like, you know, Ian's got songs he's going to record that are his own thing that we're paying for him to do.
ian crossland
You guys are amazing.
tim pool
Ian's got a really good song.
What's that song that I really like?
ian crossland
Frequent Measure, and there's versions of it on YouTube.
Check out if you want to hear, but I can't wait to do it with Pete on drums.
The guy's a maniac.
tim pool
Justin, Justin says, bro, good song.
Gave me goosebumps.
Thank you.
I really, really do appreciate it.
Paul Thongham says, listen to the new single, It Was Good, then see your sung it for 69 cents.
I see what you did there.
We didn't do anything!
You get three options.
69 cents, 99 cents, or $1.29.
And of course.
What we want is maximum sales.
We're less concerned about making a bunch of money off the music, but that's the lowest you can sell it for.
george alexopoulos
Sell it for $4.20.
tim pool
That's a lot to sell a song for.
unidentified
People are crazy and they would do it.
tim pool
People are crazy and they would do it. Yeah. Yeah, so When when because we're in the era of streaming and no
longer purchasing purchase purchasing is 150 times that of a stream
So it's like 69 cents is the equivalent of listening to the song 150 times
ian crossland
Which is just like massively powerful, maybe We can do 10 songs at 69 cents each or get the album for $4.20.
That's a good idea.
george alexopoulos
Do you guys consider doing physical copies, like signed stuff?
tim pool
We're going to do vinyls.
george alexopoulos
Send them goodies.
tim pool
Yeah, I want to do vinyls.
george alexopoulos
Cool cover.
Signed up.
ian crossland
Laser etched.
george alexopoulos
Yeah.
tim pool
All sorts of cool ideas.
We're getting a machine to print our own vinyls.
george alexopoulos
Nice.
tim pool
Yeah, so you can record yourself.
You can go in and press record and it'll scratch the vinyl in real time.
And it goes for like two and a half minutes, I think.
But then we can also put, you know, we can't put... This song's four and a half minutes long, so, you know.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Preferrumble says, when we live in a time where definitions are changed and truth is ignored in order to steer the narrative, how do we present the truth in ways to bust the narrative?
Any tips for breaking the ice?
I will tell you this.
As I was saying earlier, you have to meet people where they are.
You can't expect them to come to where you are.
So, breaking the ice is actually simple.
The first step towards making friends and influencing people is rapport.
Meaning, find a way that you and someone else can connect.
That's the easiest way to do it.
When I used to do fundraising, it was actually really easy.
You'd see somebody wearing a band t-shirt, and whatever the band was, you would just,
oh man, you're wearing Metallica, bro!
I used to, Enter Sandman was like the second song I ever learned how to play.
ian crossland
Oh, what a good song.
tim pool
That's true, though.
I was a little kid, and I was like, I could play that.
It was like easy enough, but cool enough.
I was really excited, and I was like, yeah, look, I can play this song.
But you see someone, you open with that, and you build rapport, like, hey, look,
we share this in common.
We are people, we are together.
That's how you break the ice.
Once you have...
have.
Once you have a rapport with people, now they're willing to listen because they feel that you're operating in good faith.
So there are a lot of people I know who are, like, on the left, and they might say nasty things to me, but I only respond with nice things and support for their work, and it opens the door, and then we can have that conversation.
And I can't change their minds and convince them overnight that some of these ideas are crazy, but I can show them news articles which will show them, you know, maybe I was wrong about that.
At least a little bit.
ian crossland
Yeah, I get the whenever someone says something that I'm relating to, like, say we have dinner and we're talking about it, they say something I don't agree with, rather than say, No, I won't.
I do not.
I do not negate what they're saying.
I'll say interesting, and then maybe offer some other idea.
hannah claire brimelow
The other thing is like if people start saying like don't stay quiet you don't have to argue but like if someone is like oh I really believe this you can ask them more about it and be honest about how you feel about it.
I think so often people are afraid of conflict that they just don't say like well I don't I don't see it that way.
george alexopoulos
Yeah, a lot of conversation is, I mean, if you think of two cities trying to interact with each other, if you come at someone with your shield up and they put their shield up, there's not going to be a lot of exchange of, hey, let's shake hands now.
They're going to be, they're going to have their firewalls up.
So let's say you got two cities that are trading a little bit, you get to know each other, you trust each other.
So when you make friends, you're really just trying to... Like, I don't know you guys ultra well, but the more time I spend with you, the more I like you, the more maybe I'll open up.
Initially, when I first met you guys, my defenses were up.
I was scared, you know.
tim pool
We actually fought.
We boxed.
ian crossland
Yeah.
george alexopoulos
Do you suggest I remember it friendly?
The first time I came here, maybe a year or something ago, I remember I was asking, Hey, should I wear a mask?
And the first thing I think you asked me was, do you think all people are the same or something?
Like, do you think some people are better than others?
I'm like, Nice to meet you, Tim.
tim pool
I like your show.
george alexopoulos
Right.
So it was very shocking to me.
So I put my guard up and then, you know, hours and hours of talking later, it's like, okay, now I'm relaxed.
It was fine.
Just, it was, so when you meet new people for the first time, you have to sort of feel their frequency and then adjust your frequency.
And now you're talking to each other.
tim pool
Yeah.
When he came up to the studio, he actually went into the corner of the room, crawled up into a little ball and then we started crying.
We had to coax him out.
george alexopoulos
Well, they showed me the chickens.
ian crossland
It's your picture, George.
You drew this.
tim pool
All right, Sarah Ghent says, I love your new song.
Has anyone ever told you that you sound like Chester Bennington?
lydia smith
Somebody said that last night.
tim pool
I've never heard that until now.
I will add, singing this song, it was extremely difficult, because the way I wrote it was more singer-songwriter folk, and then Carter produced and engineered it in a way that I had not initially written it, which required me to sing in a way I don't normally do.
But I really love when people are like, I can't, that's not really Tim singing this, it's literally me.
And for a lot of people who are like, how did he pull that off?
I had to sing this one like 30 times.
It was nuts.
I had to go into the studio with Carter like 30 times and keep trying it and trying it and missing and missing because it is just not my normal range.
But we have a couple songs.
Not so much that it's not my normal range, but the better way to put it is...
I can do it.
I am not practiced in this style of falsetto, switching, breathy, higher.
So, uh, I don't think I would normally ever sound like Chester Bennington when I'm singing my other songs, but listen to Will of the People and maybe, I don't know, tell me what you think.
george alexopoulos
I think what they're experiencing when they hear you saying the haters it's like an uncanny valley thing like you're the news guy but wait he also it's like when you see your teacher at the grocery store yeah wait you have other hobbies that's weird I don't like it I'm scared you know what's really funny is uh So I use vidIQ, and it shows me on a YouTube video whenever something is posted to Reddit.
tim pool
You can just click it, and it shows you all the Reddit posts.
So I can see, and I'm commenting on people on Reddit, they're smack-talking, and they're saying, like, bald move, Tim, writing a song like this, and it's funny jokes and whatever.
And I'm just like, I don't care, you can rag on me.
But it's funny how we got half a million views on the song in a day.
And it's overwhelming thumbs up.
We're getting hit up by a ton of people.
We've been getting up by like major label affiliated companies and artists that are like, this is really good stuff.
And what people got to understand that releasing a song and getting half a million hits right away is kind of a big deal.
It's not like you're going to be like one of these big artists or whatever, but the left is attacking it.
And it really does show how isolated they are.
Because it's like, listen, dude, if you come out and start laughing and pointing and saying, ha, look how dumb it is, and they're all sitting there being like, actually, we kind of like it.
It kind of shows the emperor has no clothes.
ian crossland
Honestly, if I hear a song I don't like, I don't say anything about it.
george alexopoulos
I don't listen to it.
ian crossland
I turn it off and I don't listen to it.
I definitely wouldn't comment on a YouTube video about it.
hannah claire brimelow
It's a strange amount of effort to go out of your way to be like, I really don't like this.
george alexopoulos
There's a saying, the opposite of love isn't hate, it's indifference.
So if I really like, I'm not going to go up to somebody and say, Hey, I don't think you're attractive.
I don't like you.
tim pool
I bet.
Yeah.
You know, cause the Ethan Klein people are posting it on a subreddit.
I don't think Ethan Klein would hate the song.
I don't think he's going to sit there and be like, haha, because I don't like Tim pool.
This song is stupid.
The Destiny subreddit, they're actually like, actually, it's not that bad.
They're like, good job, Beanie Boy.
And I'm like, that's like, these people have an honest approach to it.
They don't have to like me or agree with me.
But I think a lot of these lefties, if they actually listen to it, would be like, yeah, you know, it's a pretty good song.
So it's whatever.
I don't expect them to like the genre or anything like that, but it's like a well-produced thing.
hannah claire brimelow
They just want you to stay in your box.
They want you to not be able to touch the arts.
tim pool
Yeah.
Rulers of Stars says, you see that cover by some black guy?
It's hot.
Love your one too.
Good job, Mr. Banks.
I saw it.
I didn't listen to it, but I'd love to have him on the show.
That'd be great.
We can talk about it.
All right.
Jerkwad says, I think that the World Economic Forum wants to rule the world, but BRICS also wants the same.
The two are clashing with one another.
Lucky for us, they suck at it.
I think the World Economic Forum wants to control the world and BRICS formed because of it, partly because of it, to resist the, the accesses of, of, you know, NATO or whatever.
ian crossland
Yeah, it seems like that's true.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
What do we got here?
Just a lot of, uh... We initially got a whole bunch of superchats.
I really do appreciate everybody superchatting about the song, because, you know, it's great.
And, uh, just gotta get those sales.
FleetingFloatingFeather says, have Amazon Prime, but purchased the mp3 of Only Ever Wanted for 69 cents to show my support.
Great song, waiting patiently for Bright Eyes to drop.
There's actually a small snippet of Bright Eyes on my Instagram, and it's like a lot, and that was from months and months ago, because the song's been done for a while, but we're just plotting out our release dates.
The next song that's being released is going to be right before the midterms, I believe, and it's an overtly political song, more rock.
Kind of punky in a certain sense, but not really.
And it's just overtly political.
It's about the institutions.
And, uh, sounds pretty good.
Very simple, fun, upbeat, but kind of brutal.
ian crossland
Got kind of a doo-wop flair.
tim pool
You think?
ian crossland
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
It's like, it's like, it's like, um, like rock doo-wop or something.
tim pool
The working title is Genocide.
And, you know, everyone I talked to that does marketing, they're like, oof.
hannah claire brimelow
They're like, please stop.
tim pool
Maybe no and I'm like it doesn't need to be called that because the song is about institutions That's just what we the working title of it.
So maybe we'll think of something else All right Let's grab some super chips Nobody Special says, I'm getting used to Ian commenting on a subject he knows almost nothing about and finding some way of making a conspiracy of elite corruption.
ian crossland
You're getting used to it.
tim pool
I don't know what that refers to because it's been too long.
ian crossland
Maybe Breaking Bad.
Oh, probably maybe the Catholic Church, Breaking Bad.
hannah claire brimelow
There have been so many tonight.
ian crossland
Yeah, those are the two big ones tonight.
hannah claire brimelow
I want to see like a web of all of Ian's like conspiracy theories.
My brother just submitted this YouTube video.
It's like nine hours of like all the conspiracy theories ever.
tim pool
It's like reminds me of... We are going to be launching a conspiracy show.
So, Tales from the Inverted World, initially we wanted it to be like a weekly exploration but it turned into something bigger.
But Shane is going to be launching a call-in show and like weekly paranormal but skeptics, you know, podcast.
ian crossland
Do the graphic where it shows the conspiracies connected to each other on the board but then it's an airplane that flies from conspiracy to conspiracy and when it lands it like that's when the show begins about that one.
lydia smith
So funny.
ian crossland
Perhaps.
Yeah, it'd be wild.
tim pool
Colin Cooper says, to everyone in the room, thank you.
Now, Tim, answer all three.
When is Crowder, DeSantis, and Trump happening on IRL?
Um, all three of them are welcome on the show at any point.
For Trump, we'd have to go to him.
For DeSantis, probably the same.
And I think Crowder is gonna be passing through the area, actually.
lydia smith
Yeah, he's gonna be, uh, in Baltimore this winter, I think?
We just need to coordinate it if he's not too busy.
tim pool
Gotta figure that one out.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Jimmy Dore's heading this way, too, and that might happen, cause Jimmy is awesome.
I wonder if... I don't know if I've told this to anybody.
george alexopoulos
I have a comic of you doing the Civil War thing.
tim pool
Oh, you do?
george alexopoulos
I don't know how you would know this.
tim pool
You didn't post it?
george alexopoulos
No, I was gonna do one... Did I never say this?
So I have a joke where I have this little stupid whistle.
Like, it's a...
lydia smith
That's great.
george alexopoulos
So I'll, I'll hear like your show.
And in my head, every time you say civil war.
So first, whatever reason I connected the dots of, um, you got your chickens in the back or something.
Some chicken takes a poop and it's like, you go over to it like a hunter and you put your finger on it.
Civil war.
But I don't think I never told anyone that one.
I didn't do it.
Cause I didn't want to be disrespectful without like telling you.
lydia smith
I just remember the one from his birthday where he's being like beamed up.
george alexopoulos
The UFOs.
lydia smith
Yeah.
george alexopoulos
I don't want to, you know, I don't want to make strips about people without their permission, though.
It's like, I don't care.
Well, you know, it's respect.
It's important.
tim pool
You didn't ask Joe Biden for permission.
george alexopoulos
Well, he didn't ask for permission.
tim pool
Cliff the alien is a good one.
Cliff the Alien says, Ian, there was a peaceful revolution.
It was called Ska in the 1990s.
It was the happiest sound your planet ever heard, but the next day they made it illegal and now look at the mess you're in.
Now that is some very high praise for Ska.
ian crossland
The musical genre Ska?
tim pool
Yeah.
ian crossland
Well, I guess it started in Jamaica in the 1950s, but there's some great Ska in the 90s.
tim pool
Did you ever watch people skank?
No.
It was ska dancing.
And it was very silly.
But you know what?
ian crossland
I was a huge Mighty Mighty Boss Tones fan.
I still am.
tim pool
Is that ska?
ian crossland
Dickie Barrett.
Pete's actually working.
I don't know if that's... Mighty Mighty Boss Tones is... I mean, they were like a blend of rock and ska.
Scarock, I guess you would call it.
tim pool
Scarock.
I'm telling you, 90s music is gonna come back.
ian crossland
Real Big Fish was pretty good.
Got into those guys a little bit.
tim pool
90s music is gonna come back.
unidentified
It's the grunge.
ian crossland
It's the emo, because grunge is emo.
Grunge was the inception of emo.
tim pool
Alternative, dude.
ian crossland
Blink-182 kind of turned it a little more electronic.
Yeah, Alternative was also like a grunge thing.
tim pool
It's gonna be like Smashing Pumpkins.
You're gonna hear like Semi Sonic, Eve Six, those bands.
New Found Glory.
Well, I don't know about New Found, that was 2000s.
It was that 90s rock sound, you know, that this is radio girl and vertical horizon and stuff like that.
You know why I'm saying this wallah?
I'll tell you why it's gonna come back to me straight, because it always does.
Like, there's a period where people are like, Oh, that's old music.
And then a couple decades later, they're like, Oh, cool, retro classic music, and they want to revive it.
Now we've got Kate Bush.
In the Billboard Hot 100 number five for like the past three months.
lydia smith
It's the 80s.
tim pool
Running up that hill.
It's the 80s.
lydia smith
Getting up to the 90s.
tim pool
In a few years, people are going to be, young kids are going to be like, I was born in the wrong decade.
unidentified
Yeah.
I love Eve 6.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, I feel like they're like that little bit, why 2K fashion is like such a big deal with Zoomers right now.
And so I feel like, why wouldn't the music just come back with it?
And it sort of is a little out of order, but I think 90s and 2000s in some way are like an idealistic time for like, These current era teens, they're like, wasn't it so great?
george alexopoulos
It was the time before 9-11.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
They don't know.
george alexopoulos
It was the good times.
tim pool
90s rock songs.
I mean, you had what?
You had Blur in the 90s, right?
unidentified
Woo-hoo!
ian crossland
Yeah, dude.
That's a great song.
tim pool
Dude, the 90s had such good stuff.
I mean, Metallica in the 90s.
ian crossland
You got Radiohead.
tim pool
You know what?
ian crossland
Coldplay was amazing when they first... I mean, I still like Coldplay, but they got a little too electronic.
Nirvana.
We even mentioned Pearl Jam, Stone Temple Pilots.
There's just Soundgarden.
Chris Cornell, the way he could bend his body.
These guys, I mean... Oh dude, Soundgarden.
Dude.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Just so good.
And audio slave also.
Tom Morello's got wacky politics, but hey man, good music's good music.
ian crossland
Shout out to Dave Grohl for doing it for 30 years, man.
Keep it going.
tim pool
Oh yeah, dude.
Foo Fighters?
Everlong?
Come on, dude.
It's funny when, you know, I tweeted about this and people were ragging on 90s music, and I'm like, you're crazy, bro.
ian crossland
Like Nirvana, they were nothing, and then Grohl joined the band.
And then they were Nirvana.
Then they released Nevermind, and that album changed the world.
tim pool
That was only a few months ago.
That drove me crazy every time I saw it.
in New Jersey said something very similar to Hokel a few years ago.
Quote, if taxes are your issue, we're probably not your state.
george alexopoulos
That's only a few months ago.
tim pool
That was a few months ago?
george alexopoulos
That drove me crazy every time I saw it.
hannah claire brimelow
Taxes are your issue, get out of here!
unidentified
You son of a...
tim pool
Long Walk says, hey Tim, how do I get my music to you?
It's not woke, but it's not anti-woke either.
I have stuff on YouTube, Rumble, and SoundCloud.
P.S.
Dig the new song and Will of the People is a jam too.
I don't know yet, but Carter is going to be running this new label and all the songs that we're putting out.
And he is but one man who does all the engineering and production himself.
So we just, look, it really comes down to this.
We want to do it.
It needs to make money.
If it doesn't make money, we'll do what we can, but it'll be a small operation to just try and produce culture, and because we enjoy doing it.
If these songs actually start taking off and we do a good job, then we're gonna start... I mean, that's the goal.
The goal, ultimately, is to create a space where people... You don't gotta be anti-woke.
You don't gotta be woke.
We just want good music.
You don't gotta bend the knee to these weirdos.
But you know what we're not gonna sign?
We're not gonna sign a rock band that's, like, writing songs called, like, you know, Slobberin' Balls or whatever.
ian crossland
It's like, you know, let me hear the song down with the straight white males.
tim pool
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Like there's going to be some kind of standard.
ian crossland
If someone releases a song called straight white, I'm into it.
If it's good song, it's called straight white.
That'd be hard.
george alexopoulos
If it's funny.
ian crossland
I got a song called, uh, what is it?
White meat, hot heat.
That's pretty nice.
george alexopoulos
That sounds pretty good.
I want to get you guys in trouble.
tim pool
Matt Kelly says, bought Only Ever Wanted on iTunes.
It's great.
I like Eve 6, but them judging your lyrics is a brave and oblivious move indeed.
Keep up the fight.
The dude from Eve 6, I don't want to say he apologized.
He said he felt bad about tweeting that because he responded to the promo saying the lyrics were banal or something.
And then I just responded with like, dude, I don't care.
I'm a huge fan.
Like when I was a little kid, we would play their covers because they had like four songs that We were just playing Eve 6 before the show.
ian crossland
Two of their songs.
tim pool
God, they're so good.
ian crossland
They were so good dude.
tim pool
But, but you know, like I was, I was like, bro, you don't gotta like my music.
And then he tweeted that he felt bad about saying that he took it down.
And I'm like, right on dude.
I really, I respect it, man.
Look, we may disagree on politics, but they have one of the most iconic songs of the,
ian crossland
It's amazing how like a song when you're young, you hear a song when you're 13 or 15 or something, and it can change your life forever.
And then even when you're like 50 and 60, you still have love for that.
The creators of it and the experience of it.
george alexopoulos
It's funny, even without language, like my friends used to burn J-pop and K-pop CDs.
I didn't understand any of the lyrics, but I still, I could play them and feel like the same.
hannah claire brimelow
Feel connected to them?
george alexopoulos
You're back in your youth, and it's beautiful, and maybe I'm having a midlife crisis myself.
But like, it's really... On air live?
Yeah.
No, no.
Well, my whole career is a midlife crisis.
unidentified
Actually, yes.
tim pool
We got a good one here.
Liquid Logic says, Save Vasanjh in Times Square.
Culture jam.
I know there are ad rules, but you'll have better ideas than mine, uh, than mine, friend.
I know.
Head of rock alternative at Spotify, and I'll push your song.
Let's rock.
Really do appreciate it, and actually, that's a really good idea.
So we have two of the biggest billboards in Times Square right now, but because it's Friday and the run ends in the next two days, there's nothing I can do to get a Save Assange message up.
But actually, that's a really good idea.
They wouldn't let me do the Twitter groomer thing, because they were like, nope.
But I'd be willing to bet that I can get up a billboard in Times Square saying, free Julian Assange.
And I will absolutely be down to do that and explore how we get that done.
Because I think we might be able to even launch something first thing Monday.
But that would totally be worth it.
Julian Assange is, look, there are things to criticize him for, but what the government is doing is effectively an assassination, an execution.
For 10 years they tried to stop him because he was a powerful voice challenging the establishment.
He was a journalist, that's what he was doing, and now you look at what they're trying to do to Project Veritas.
It is insanely similar.
They claim that Julian Assange was, like, instructing people to commit crimes.
This is what they do.
You're a journalist, and you're like, hey, if you want to leak something to me, like, you know, talk to the lawyer, and we'll figure out how to do it the right way.
Then they go, he was instructing them on how to actually transmit stolen goods.
That's a crime.
Espionage act, it's BS, dude.
george alexopoulos
Well, they make up the crime first and then find the evidence to support their act.
lydia smith
That's right.
Show me the man, I'll show you the crime.
tim pool
Yep.
lydia smith
Great policy.
tim pool
Jasper P. Jack says, Matthew 25, 35 through 40, when I was hungry, you gave me something to eat.
And when I was thirsty, you gave me something to drink.
Ian, biblical servanthood is proactive.
To lift others up, forcing someone to serve is of the devil.
ian crossland
I hope that's true.
I don't like people adhering to any kind of authority like that.
george alexopoulos
Well, you can tell there's verses about like, you know, you've heard sayings about like, you can tell a tree by its fruit kind of thing.
unidentified
Yes.
george alexopoulos
I'm sure you've heard something like that.
ian crossland
Like, actually, not really.
But what do you mean?
Like, if the fruit's sick, then the tree's probably sick?
george alexopoulos
Yeah, it's not a parable, but Jesus was doing, there was an example of, he was trying to eat from a tree and basically it didn't give him good fruit.
So he says, may you never bear fruit again.
And then it wilted in front of them.
And then he basically clarified, you can tell a tree by its fruit.
So the idea is that if you look at a person's actions throughout their life, if they serve people, If they display what later would be described as fruits of the spirit later on by Paul wrote that stuff but the idea is that you can tell if a person's really following
The way, let's say, by the the fruits of their life, like if they're exercising things like mercy, goodness, hospitality, and there's a million different things, but like you could tell when someone's just full of it and they're just saying things like you'll find fake Christians all the time because they say things, but they don't actually live it out or they don't understand it.
tim pool
They may have heard something.
george alexopoulos
So I always say like COVID and the vaccine stuff and lockdown stuff showed a lot of people who is who in terms of you saw words versus actions playing out.
tim pool
I gotta read this one from Waffle Sensei.
say he says, my favorite part of today, Tim was when some Twitter dude said, what's next?
You're going to cover sublime songs or something.
Anyways, if you made a do-in-time cover of Sublime, I personally think you'd break the charts.
I just want to point out to everybody that some of the best memories I have are being like 18 or 19, and you're at a party, and some random dude grabs the guitar, and then he starts playing Bad Fish, and then everyone in the house is drunk singing Bad Fish.
Those were some of the best times ever.
Now, I'm sure not everybody experienced something like that, but I'm sure people down in Long Beach and Southern California know what I'm talking about.
People in Chicago know what I'm talking about.
That was always a lot of fun.
All the stoner dudes knew Bad Fish.
ian crossland
Dominic Bertolami played Bad Fish quite frequently in Venice, California when I lived at the Mad House.
tim pool
It was just so much fun when everyone knew the words, and they're singing along, and they're just drunk.
ian crossland
Dominic covers that so well, too.
tim pool
Another good 90s band that's still around, 311.
They're playing out here in October.
unidentified
Yeah, 311's awesome.
ian crossland
All mixed up.
tim pool
I still know how to play on the guitar.
I'll be here a while.
Is that the name of the song?
ian crossland
Do I have to say?
I don't know.
I only have the first album.
Santa Ria, the Sublime song.
When you hear about him singing Swimming Out Past.
No, no, no.
When he's talking about the break.
What's that line when he feels the break?
unidentified
Feel the break, feel the break, feel the break and I can't live it all.
ian crossland
When you're out in LA and you surf for the first time and you go out past the break and you start to understand the calm, the stillness of being past the break and then actually feeling the break.
I was tearing up.
tim pool
They're actually playing out here too, Sublime with Rome.
They're playing out here.
Well, yeah, because, you know, Bradley is not around.
ian crossland
Unfortunately, man.
tim pool
But the casino out here is doing a bunch of shows, like Blues Traveler.
ian crossland
Oh, huge Blues Traveler fan.
tim pool
Blues Traveler is so good.
You know, the song Hook is just brilliant writing.
They took the pop structure and then they mocked it and it actually turned into something clever and good.
ian crossland
It was like they mocked Pachelbel's Canon or it was kind of like based off of that.
tim pool
And then the lyrics are basically how pop songs were just meant to manipulate you, and it's just brilliant writing.
ian crossland
John Popper, man.
tim pool
Yeah, he's great, he's great.
Man, dude, look, I grew up in the 90s, and I know all those songs.
First album I ever got was Americana by the Offspring.
The first song I ever learned how to play was The Kids Aren't Alright.
I also had, which album had Enter Sandman on it?
ian crossland
The Black Album.
tim pool
The Black Album.
And I learned how to play that, because that was the one that everybody was always playing, and it was easy enough for me to play the opening riff.
Good days, man.
ian crossland
Pearl Jam versus was my first album, and then Blues Traveler, that was my second album.
I got those at the same time.
What album was that, Blues Traveler?
tim pool
Yep.
Blue's Traveler.
ian crossland
Was it just called Blue's Traveler?
No, I don't know.
unidentified
I think it was just called Blue's Traveler.
ian crossland
Early 90s, huh?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
You weren't alive.
hannah claire brimelow
I was here for some of the 90s, but I don't really remember it, I have to say.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
You were alive.
ian crossland
Oh, no, the album was called Four.
The Blue's Traveler album was called Four.
george alexopoulos
Me as you downstairs don't know how good it was.
ian crossland
It's back when you had to tape songs off the radio.
Like, you'd be waiting by the radio to hear the song, and you'd finally hit record on your tape deck, and you'd get the song.
unidentified
Half of it.
ian crossland
It was the only way to be able to listen to a song again, because otherwise it was just in the ether.
You had to remember it.
tim pool
But we had the internet so we would download songs and it would take like three hours to get one mp3 and then if someone called you the download would collapse.
george alexopoulos
We had a 14.4 modem back in the day.
We were downloading anime overnight.
tim pool
I watched the Frieza saga on Real Player at like 144p and it was like it would play for five seconds then buffer for like 50 seconds and then play five seconds but it was like Goku he's going Super Saiyan!
It's happening!
All right, everybody.
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It'd be really, really big.
But if you like the song, if you want to support our work, if you buy the song and the song ends up becoming successful, then we're going to be expanding as fast as we can, as rapidly as possible, in launching new music.
If it turns out that it's just more of a hobby project because it doesn't do as well as we think and well then we'll just make music that we like and we'll do it in-house just to have the music and stuff like that but I really do think we've got good songs and we're gonna we're gonna be able to make something really fantastic here so with your support we will continue to grow.
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george alexopoulos
No, if you guys just follow me on Instagram and Twitter.
I think on Instagram I'm actually 69.9k followers.
You can change that tonight.
I have four new books.
My poop posts collections issues six through nine coming out.
They're actually on for sale.
You can see that on Twitter and next month I'm releasing a children's book Yeah, we made a little children's book and and we're actually going to be Like selling children's cute children stuff that actually has nothing to do with me, but I'll be announcing that stuff soon It's very cute.
Very sweet.
Very innocent has nothing to do with my usual crap But it's it's gonna be good stuff I'm Hannah-Claire Brimelow.
hannah claire brimelow
I'm a writer for TimCast.com.
You can check it every day for your news.
You can follow me on Instagram at hannahclaire.b.
Thanks for having me.
ian crossland
Hello, everyone, and goodbye.
I'm Ian Crossland.
Great to see you.
Maybe we can queue up this Only Ever Wanted on YouTube and play this out for the homies.
tim pool
You want me to play this out?
ian crossland
Pull one out for all the homies.
This one's for you guys.
This song changed my life.
lydia smith
Yes, we're going to see what we can do.
Thank you all for spending your Friday night with us.
We do appreciate it.
I hope you enjoyed spending this time with George slash G Prime 85.
You guys can follow me on Twitter at Minds.com, at Sarah Patchlitz, as well as Sarah Patchlitz.me.
tim pool
I think I'll just show the video and direct you guys onto YouTube to watch it if you really want to.
I think that's just way better to do.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
You know.
So, Tim cast records.
lydia smith
There you go.
tim pool
Search for that.
Search Only Ever Wanted official music video.
Shane Cashman of Tales from the Inverted World and his wife are the stars.
hannah claire brimelow
There's Carta!
It's a family production over here.
tim pool
Family production.
Well, it's basically like we've got a bunch of really talented people that work here.
And so we utilize the resources that we had.
And we had a fog machine because we went to Guitar Center and I was like, hey, they got a fog machine.
lydia smith
So we bought it.
tim pool
And then we were putting this video together.
Someone mentioned we had a fog machine.
And they were like, hey, we have a fog machine, don't we?
unidentified
I was like, yes, let's bring a fog machine.
lydia smith
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
But we filmed this in this really old rundown 1800s barnhouse.
And it's it's creepy.
ian crossland
Really amazing.
tim pool
It's cool stuff.
ian crossland
I love Shane's eyes.
He's so emotional, like so much emotion in his eyes.
tim pool
Yeah, check out the song.
I mean, let me refresh it.
See how many views we have now.
ian crossland
Ooh, listen to that.
tim pool
460,317 views and we launched it at midnight.
So, looks like we'll end the day 24 hours with half a million.
Hopefully by next Thursday we'll have gotten enough sales and views that we'll find ourselves having a successful song year.
lydia smith
Look at this comment.
This Tim Pool sounds like a good guy.
Maybe he should start a podcast.
tim pool
I appreciate that comment.
26,000 thumbs up.
We have thousands of comments.
Where are the comments at?
Oh, 6,000 comments.
Really do appreciate all the support, you guys.
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