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July 20, 2022 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Timcast IRL - Biden SAYS HE HAS CANCER, Hunter Biden FACING CHARGES w/Danny Farrar
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danny farrar
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hannah claire brimelow
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ian crossland
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tim pool
59:15
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lydia smith
02:14
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tim pool
ladies and gentlemen the president of the united states has announced
that he has cancer.
Okay, the bit's over.
Here you go.
You can have your glasses back.
He actually did.
And I felt like we needed a dramatic opener.
And I was like, I need glasses.
And he was like, where are my glasses?
And I was like, we gotta do a dramatic moment.
Here's the thing.
If Joe Biden's brain worked, I'd take it seriously.
And the issue is, I don't think his brain works.
So when he says that he had cancer, I kind of feel like he probably doesn't.
But I don't know!
Because maybe he does!
And maybe that's why his brain doesn't work!
What a crazy world that we live in.
I gotta be completely honest.
It is absolutely insane that the president came out, gave a speech, and said, I and so damn many other people have cancer.
And he was making a reference to the oil industry and stuff.
And it's just like, wait a minute.
Everyone was like, bro, what?
You have cancer?
And then the White House comes out and they're like, no, no, no, no.
He had cancer.
And it's like, whoa, Biden had cancer?
When?
Well, just before he got elected.
You didn't tell us the president had cancer?
Well, it was... Okay, this story is getting a little crazy.
So we're gonna have to break that one down.
And then there's other big news.
Apparently, Hunter Biden is actually facing criminal charges for tax avoidance and over the gun in Delaware.
So I'm just kind of like, yo, I gotta be honest.
You go after him for the gun thing, I'll have a little bit more faith in the government, to be completely honest.
Not like I have any to begin with, but a little bit, maybe.
Maybe he won't be such a double standard.
I still can't believe that Joe Biden said that he has cancer.
So, yeah.
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Today, joining us to talk about all this, we got Danny Farrar.
danny farrar
Thank y'all for having us on.
I appreciate it.
I actually, listen, you're talking about the bone broth.
What I love about you is you're actually investing back in your people.
You're giving them daggone financial compensation for going to the gym and getting shredded.
So now not only will they be smart, they'll even look better as well.
So hats off to you, man.
I appreciate it.
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
So you're with Soldier Fit.
You want to explain that?
danny farrar
Yeah, so Soldier Fit is a business I started when I got back from Iraq.
We're a functional fitness gym.
And then I also have the non-profit Platoon 22, which we started off as a suicide awareness movement.
Started after the second soldier from Frederick County committed suicide and really what we've morphed into now is Best in Class Transition.
We raised a million dollars to build the first ever Platoon Veteran Services Center, which will be in a 45 minute drive of 70% of Maryland's veterans.
And we look to take this national from here.
So we'll be open in November 10, if anybody wants to come out and really going to provide best in class transitional support for our warfighters.
tim pool
Right on.
And what you were mentioning before is like, I've never, I don't think I've ever mentioned this, but you do a fitness thing, Soldier Fit, and then you actually have a bunch of our employees doing physical fitness and training.
danny farrar
Yeah.
tim pool
Our good friend Luke had you come out and do this big thing.
And then I said to everybody who does it, we'll give you a bonus.
We'll give you a hundred bucks for doing this once a week.
And yeah, people have been keeping it up.
So.
danny farrar
They're coming for your money, man.
I mean, they're in there Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, Friday.
tim pool
The way I see it is someone who is healthy and fit is more productive and they're going to be happier.
They're going to be healthier.
It's better for them.
It's better for me.
So we'll throw them a bonus for staying fit.
danny farrar
I can actually get you a number on that.
Wilco has actually broke that number down to for every dollar that you invest in your employees' health, you'll receive a $3 return on your investment in reduction in sick days, increased productivity as you talked about there, drops in your insurance rates.
So, you know, hey, it's a good investment.
tim pool
Me, it's kind of just, I think it's kind of more political, personal.
I just think people should be healthy and do what they can.
And so when I saw people were into it, I was like, let's, we'll throw you a hundred bucks a week for every time you do this thing.
And so right on, man.
Thanks for joining us.
danny farrar
Thanks for having us.
tim pool
We also got Hannah Clare.
Do you want to introduce yourself?
hannah claire brimelow
Hi, I'm Hannah Clare Brimlow.
Can you hear me?
I'm a writer for Timcast.com actually.
tim pool
That's right.
hannah claire brimelow
I will apparently be signing up for Soldier Fit.
I did not realize we got a bonus for this.
I've been running on the trail like a hooligan.
lydia smith
It's a sucker.
danny farrar
I mean, America gets you.
tim pool
You weren't out, so it was like everybody was outside and Luke was like, you know, getting in shape, yelling at people.
hannah claire brimelow
I remember hearing this happen, but the thing that happens to me is I get sucked into the news cycle and spend a lot of time just at my computer.
So I actually probably need to be at Sultrafit.
tim pool
I pulled up to my bike and Daniel was like, get in here.
And Luke was like, come on Tim.
And I was like, I don't got time for this.
I'm too busy, but I'll give all of you a hundred dollars for doing this.
And everyone's like, yeah, like I dig it.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
Everyone who does it comes into the office and they're like, oh yeah, we did that thing this morning.
Like they're super intense.
They're hyped up.
Yeah, so maybe I'll renounce running.
danny farrar
Honestly, my biggest thing is for women to lift.
I think women need to lift more than men do, if I'm honest.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, okay.
I'll see you at Solar Fit.
danny farrar
All right, 630 tomorrow morning.
hannah claire brimelow
We'll be there.
ian crossland
Hey guys, Ian Crosland.
My girlfriend's actually just got back from a lifting session earlier today.
Maybe I'll turn her on to your gym.
This is very impressive.
IanCrosland.net.
Happy to see you.
danny farrar
Let's get going.
lydia smith
Andy has been going to Soldier Fit every morning that he can.
Some mornings he doesn't get.
It's just become part of our morning.
He comes back.
He's all hype.
He said today he lifted like 380 pounds.
I was like, I don't believe you.
And he showed me the video and I was like, what the heck is going on over there?
So they're having a great time over there.
So I'm delighted to have Danny.
tim pool
Right on, everybody.
Let's get into this first story, possibly one of the biggest stories of our generation.
Joe Biden says he has cancer, thanks to the oil industry.
And then I love how they add this, but White House points to skin cancer years ago.
Okay, okay, hold on there a minute.
Joe Biden said he had cancer.
The remark initially appeared to be a stunningly casual health announcement
during a speech about global warming in which the president described emissions
from oil refineries near his childhood home in Claymont, Delaware.
That's why I and so damn many other people I grew up with have cancer,
and why for the longest time Delaware had the highest cancer rate in the nation.
White House spokesman Andrew Bates referred the post to a tweet from Washington Post columnist Glenn Kessler, who noted that Biden had non-melanoma skin cancers removed before he took office.
I don't buy it.
Look, I get it.
Joe Biden's brain ain't all with it, and maybe he just gaffed.
But to have this, like, the spokesman pointed to a journalist who pointed to a claim.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I don't understand why he couldn't just say himself, like, this is what happened to the president if they really did remove the melanomas or whatever.
Like, why do you have to refer to the Washington Post?
You are the original source for this.
danny farrar
He didn't have his notecards.
unidentified
Oh, OK.
That's right.
danny farrar
That's an important part.
tim pool
Yeah, he didn't know what to say.
Now look, look, look.
Joe Biden gaffes all the time.
So I'm not going to sit here and be like, this is the one time he wasn't gaffing.
No, literally everything out of his mouth is probably gibberish nonsense.
So I don't know what this means, but there's two kinds of gaffes.
There's the accidental blurting of the truth gaffe, and then there's the churning on a shop at a pressure gaffe.
Which one is this?
ian crossland
This has got to be the truth.
People don't, you don't accidentally tell people you have cancer.
Anyone, I've never met anyone, anyone.
I mean, I don't know people that are suffering from dementia and Alzheimer's.
I don't know a lot of them.
And maybe they say things like that.
If they had it, they still think they have it.
But then if that's an indication of his Alzheimer's or dementia, that's another problem altogether.
It's one or the other.
Either he's being honest or he's blatantly lying to people for sympathy, which I don't think is the cause.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, and it's a problem that it's present tense, right?
I didn't, he's not saying I had cancer.
He's saying I have it.
So that's sort of a strange thing to not take an immediate strong response from.
tim pool
I think he's slipped out the truth.
Maybe so.
Let me play this clip.
Let me see if it'll play properly.
There we go.
OK, is it making me go to Twitter?
All right.
Oh, here we go.
I always have the wrong button clicked.
ian crossland
Nice aviators, Joe.
tim pool
Nice aviators.
joe biden
Berlin Highway that was accessible, my mother drove us, rather than us being able to walk.
And guess what?
The first frost, you know what was happening.
You had to put on your windshield wipers to get literally the oil slick off the window.
That's why I and so damn many other people I grew up with have cancer.
And why can't, for the longest time, Delaware had the highest cancer rate in the nation?
tim pool
So, you know what makes me think it's possibly him spreading out the truth is his indignation.
Like his anger.
You know, like if it was something he had a long time ago, if he got cancer when he... He's talking about when he was young.
What, he got skin melanomas 70 years after he left?
You know what I mean?
So it sounds to me more like this might be a... He's just his brain fog and then he just says it without...
Look, I mean, if he had cancer, it could explain a whole lot.
It could explain, literally, why he gaffes so much.
danny farrar
Well, I mean, I think the thing that's crazy about it nowadays is you would have never thought 10, 15, 20 years ago that we would have information this readily available and they would still be able to twist it and change the narrative of what it is.
You know, this isn't something that's heard second or third party.
This is literally broadcast nationally, internationally at the time, and then instantaneously we just say it's something different.
tim pool
Let's think about how crazy it is if the story is he doesn't have cancer.
The president accidentally told the world he has cancer?
unidentified
Yikes.
tim pool
Yeah, okay.
Either his brain is so broken he accidentally told the world he has cancer, or the dude has cancer.
danny farrar
Or what if he has cancer and he dies in the next year or two?
tim pool
No, no, it's okay, because then we get President Kamala.
danny farrar
But you get that.
But I'm saying at that point in time, like, how do you not let the autopsy report go?
I mean, it's President United States.
You're not going to release that.
And so then you either lie about how he died or it comes out that you covered up that he really did have cancer.
And now you're sitting down here and was like, hold on.
Well, you knew he had it and you lied that he had it.
And now just again, the public trust just continues to erode and fall farther and farther.
tim pool
We have a very important quote here from anarchist author Michael Malice.
Oh, good.
Who said, referring to the fact that First Lady Jill Biden uses the honorific doctor to note her 2007 doctorate in education.
unidentified
I love it.
tim pool
I don't know, but I'm pretty sure the education thing she has isn't like a, it's like, it's not the same thing as a PhD or whatever.
lydia smith
I don't know what it is.
tim pool
It's something else.
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, I don't know what it is.
lydia smith
And I wanted to say, I worked with old people for the first 10 years of my career.
And as you get older, you still can grasp some of these concepts, but you lose your filter.
danny farrar
Yeah.
lydia smith
And it just comes out, you just blurt it out.
And that's, I liked it because I got to actually know people.
unidentified
Yeah.
lydia smith
Because there was no like, you know, not, there's no pitter patter.
They're not trying to pretend there's something they're not.
They'll just tell you exactly what they think right up front.
I think that's what he's doing here.
danny farrar
Still crazy to me, though, that the stuff that he gets up past for—like, I remember, you know, when President Bush, the son, was in office, and he wasn't a great orator.
How many people just decimated him when he had a flub here or there?
And some of the stuff that Trump said, how many people ridiculed him for that?
But Biden can just say the most off-the-wall, outlandish stuff on planet Earth.
He just gets swept on the rug.
ian crossland
I'll say though, now Dana Carvey's making fun of him on Kimmel.
Did you see it?
Trevor Noah, yeah.
Oh, Trevor Noah did too?
They're finally making fun of the way Biden talks.
unidentified
He's this weird man getting real quiet and then getting real loud.
ian crossland
I mean, you should watch the Dana Carvey skit.
Maybe we can talk about it on the after show or go into it more or even on this show if it comes up again.
But like, that's kind of like the tide has turned.
People are like, okay, we got what we needed out of him now.
danny farrar
But the successor in the wings is no better.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I was going to say, for a long time, the White House refused to put out his,
they kept saying he was going to have his annual health exam.
Well, it was delayed, something's going on.
And it went on for such a long time, to a certain point, it just seemed like they wanted us to stop
asking about it. And the other thing that's so strange about his presidency is how much time
he spends at his home in Delaware.
I mean, they don't release the visitor logs for that, so we just don't know what goes on there.
I mean, it's total conspiracy for me to say this, but like, if he is being treated for something, that's an easy place for him to receive care in the privacy of his own home.
tim pool
Good point.
He's been retreating quite a bit.
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, I think it was something like over 50% of the weekends that he was president during his first year.
He wasn't at the Oval Office.
He wasn't at the White House.
I think the majority of them were spent in Delaware at one of his two residencies.
danny farrar
What were they doing?
I know they did a bunch of the mock-ups of the fake Oval Office when he was getting his shots and stuff.
Where were those at?
lydia smith
I don't know.
ian crossland
I heard they were across the street in a studio, which is even weirder.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
Yeah.
But I couldn't confirm that.
I don't know where it was.
I keep thinking about FDR, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, who had polio and he was like crippled because it became crippling paralysis started to affect him while he was in office.
But he just lied to everyone, didn't didn't announce it.
hannah claire brimelow
And he put the front panel on the desk at the Oval Office.
That's why they had to hide his wheelchair.
ian crossland
I got a picture of him holding on to a metal railing while he's tossed, smiling, and people didn't know.
I guess the theory was, we're at war, we don't want to freak out the public, we want to project strength.
danny farrar
Which is like the thing y'all were talking about on the show the other day, about how AOC getting power, but she wants to do good to get there, right?
Well, that's the slippery slope that comes with that.
You can absolutely justify why he lied about polio, right?
It's a betterment for the country.
We don't want to see him weak the whole nine yards.
But at the same time, You just justified lying to the people about the realities that they're facing, and it's a bad slope to go down.
ian crossland
What do we do?
tim pool
I'm just like... Panic?
We're facing two scenarios.
The president is so demented, he accidentally told the world he had cancer.
Now, the enemies of the United States, they're not sitting there going like, but does he have cancer?
They're going like, either way, this dude is weak, and now's our opportunity to destroy this country.
danny farrar
Do you think the cancer quote has any effect on that at all?
I mean, everybody looked at him like that, as he is.
I mean, he shook hands with the air.
tim pool
It's twice.
lydia smith
Couple times.
tim pool
Twice he did.
Yeah, I wonder if maybe this is actually Forty Chess from Joe Biden.
Make your enemies think you're weak when you're strong.
He read Sun Tzu, The Art of War.
danny farrar
That's why he fell down off the bike, too.
tim pool
That's right.
It's a big ruse.
He shows up to these meetings and Putin's like, the weak Biden.
And then Biden goes, listen here, champ, I'm going to tell you exactly what's going on.
unidentified
And Putin's like, oh no, Biden is strong.
hannah claire brimelow
When do you think he would announce that he's not running for re-election?
tim pool
Soon.
Because they need to start getting ready for the Democratic primaries if that's the case.
ian crossland
Right.
When do the primaries start getting announced?
tim pool
Next year.
But usually, even right now with Trump, the conversation is starting to pop up of who is it going to be.
We're starting to hear the same conversations on the Democrat side.
ian crossland
Yeah, Hillary Clinton announced that, or I don't know if it was official, but said that she was going to run against Trump.
tim pool
Was her... No, she didn't say that.
ian crossland
Well, this is what I read on Twitter.
I don't know if it's all confirmed.
I didn't hear it out of her mouth either.
danny farrar
I thought they were looking at old... Newsom.
Yeah.
Which is nuts to me.
It's nuts to me.
How he didn't lose the recall is still, I don't grasp that concept at all, but as bad as California is doing, everybody leaves.
Why would that be your guy?
Just because it's a big state?
tim pool
You know?
hannah claire brimelow
And he looks pretty.
tim pool
People are in a cult.
lydia smith
He does look pretty.
tim pool
I don't even know.
He looks like American Psycho.
danny farrar
I think he looks like Kent.
lydia smith
He does, yeah.
He totally does, yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
I think it's like, to contrast him with Biden, he's young, he has a young family, like, he looks healthy.
I'm not saying I'm for a Newsom run at all.
danny farrar
I mean, you just said he was attractive two minutes ago.
Confirmed.
ian crossland
He's tall, so he's got that over Buddha gig.
Is it Buddha jej?
Is that how you pronounce it?
tim pool
Buddha jej.
ian crossland
Buddha gig.
Who I don't hate, you know, I don't hate, I don't really hate these people, but like Buddha gang Buddha judge.
Sorry, buddy.
Whatever you say.
He's smaller.
He's like five nine.
I don't know how tall he is, but he looks little.
danny farrar
Yeah.
ian crossland
And so they want people like towering presence.
So I think Newsom has that going for him.
But Biden has the towering height, you know, as well.
danny farrar
It's it's nuts, man.
I don't see how I still the thing that the biggest thing that continuously shocks me about the country is that.
You know, you have these people that are in office, especially in Congress, for literally decades and they just keep getting reelected.
Everybody knows they're not worth two cents.
And we keep catching them like, you know, Gavin, when he was, how many times was he in restaurants when it was, when it was shut down and he had his mask off, but then he just, oh, you know, I slipped.
I was taking photos and people just forgive it and just go on.
I don't, I don't understand how that happens.
ian crossland
This is a great moral conversation because, like, should leadership lie to its subordinates?
That's the question.
Like, in the military, if they know they're going into, like, a suicide or a mission where it's probably not going to be very good, do they tell the troops that ahead of time?
Or are they like, here's the mission?
danny farrar
You know, in my experience, you know, if you're about ready to go down a bad road, we know it's a bad road.
You know, you know that you're going to get hit.
You know, if you're going to run down IED Alley, you know you're going down IED Alley.
I'm sure there's probably at some point in time, we used to joke about it when I was in, like, are they sending us on?
Because I had to go to the Iranian border twice because I did convoy escort.
And we're like, okay, is this how we're going to start the war with Iran?
They're going to send us out there as sacrificial lambs to get blown up.
And then we'll come back and we're going to be stopped.
So we would joke about that.
But generally speaking, my experience has been like, if you knew you were about ready to get into it, even though the greatest oxymoron is military intelligence, they at least try to tell you like, hey, like, this is going to be for real.
ian crossland
But with the president telling the American citizens, like, hey, here's some strategy.
That will get leaked to the other humans around the earth.
Like your commander telling your platoon something.
Yeah.
The platoon is not going to go tell the Iraqi soldiers what's happening.
So it's secure.
danny farrar
They can take it a different step further.
I mean, a lot of times if something like that is going to go down.
I'll even give you another example of that isn't necessarily like OPSEC, but like if a service member got killed.
They would actually shut down like the internet lines and everything there.
So you couldn't tell family back home until the military had a time to tell the family back home.
You know, so they have constraints on stuff along those lines.
And again, like back in World War II, loose lips sink ships, like that was a big thing.
But when you look at this type of stuff, like whether or not he should tell the world he has cancer, right?
I think he should.
You should know who's coming in next.
You should know what's going on there, right?
And cancer isn't necessarily a death sentence, but at least we can understand why you're shaking hands with a glove laying in the corner.
tim pool
I want to jump to this story.
It's the same story from Fox News, but to make a different point.
Fox News reports Biden's cancer claim shocks Twitter users, either the biggest bombshell or biggest gaffe.
I think it's a fair assessment.
But what I want to talk about in relation to Joe Biden and Donald Trump is this up here in the top right, the NewsGuard certification.
As of July 18th, the Daily Beast has been reinstated as true real news, and Fox News has been downranked.
lydia smith
Fascinating.
tim pool
And so the reason is, They say that Fox doesn't regularly correct errors because there's a bunch of stuff that Tucker Carlson's put out that is factually incorrect.
And I think NewsGuard is actually right about that.
But there's an interesting question in, outside of just Fox News, in the presidency.
Let me show you this.
News Guard says, while former President Trump did claim in a February 28, 2021 Fox News interview that he requested that Congress authorize 10,000 National Guardsmen to bolster capital security before January 6, there has been no corroboration of this claim.
Why is it that when there is something that is for the narrative, they can choose to ignore the president?
Whatever the narrative is, they will ignore.
If Donald Trump came out and admitted to wrongdoing, they would say, well, Trump confirmed it.
If Donald Trump comes out and admits to something or says something happened that would be bad for their narrative, they say it's fake news.
How does NewsGuard decide that the word of the President of the United States is not good enough to accept?
Meanwhile, Joe Biden can come out and say he has cancer to the world, and it's also considered less than credible.
Now, that's a very serious problem.
If the President is outright and overtly lying and the media just says, oh yeah, we don't take the President's word for it, I can understand that.
You want verification.
Yet if you Google search Biden confirms, you'll see a bunch of story about Biden confirming the cost of, you know, Biden confirms unprecedented G7 move on Putin set to cost billions.
How do we know?
It's the president, his words meaningless.
We need, well, Biden's also said he has cancer.
Why should I believe anything?
Why should the media be allowed to claim that Biden's confirmed something And then say, oh, but his cancer is not true.
How many times has Biden come out and said something nonsensical?
And then the White House has come out and said, actually, what really happened is this.
When Donald Trump says something, they say, he's lying about it.
You can't trust him.
It's, it's, it's, it's a nonsense reality where the media decides when the president's telling the truth.
How does that make sense?
danny farrar
My thing is, I mean, you do the journalist thing.
I think the real question is, when did it stop?
Did you have that ethical basis of unbiased?
Right?
I'm just going to report the facts as they are.
Like, I'm not going to put any lenience on it.
Like, this is what he said.
You make the decision on whether or not it is.
Why does it have to have all the other context behind it?
And we don't do it either way you look at it.
Like, CNN watchers don't get mad when CNN does it, but they get mad when Fox does it, and vice versa.
I still believe the problem in America, as much as we talk about the system, it's not the system, it's Americans.
And I love the country.
I ran for office.
I ran for office in Frederick.
I ran for county council at large.
I ran actually the year last governor race when the mood in the country was significantly anti-Trump and Democrats came out and drove.
I ran as a Republican because in Maryland you gotta pick, right?
I knocked on over 100,000 doors.
Do you know how many times I discussed my platform?
How many?
unidentified
One time, huh?
danny farrar
One time.
Ironically, it was an older man wearing a Bernie Sanders shirt smoking weed in his retirement.
We had a good 45 minute conversation with the guy.
But every door I knocked on, it was, what are you running as?
And if I was running at what you wanted me to run as, you got my vote.
Like, you didn't even know what I was, you had no clue what I was, what my platform was.
And if I wasn't what you wanted me to be, you slammed the door in my face and walked off.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah well I think at one time in our country your party affiliation was shorthand for the things that you believed in and your values not just politically but culturally and that shifted so much I mean the senator from I'm forgetting his name right now from Oregon who just lost he's the first incumbent elected official from Oregon to lose a race since the 1980s He said, you know, I'm a moderate Democrat and basically our party has been controlled by socialists.
So it has moved away from me.
I know that we hear conservatives say this on many different directions.
I mean, you'll talk to libertarians who say, I don't feel the way my parents felt socially.
I identify fiscally as conservative, but I'm socially left.
I think that we are coming out of a day and age where you could believe someone's political affiliation.
to be something of substance, whereas now you really do have to do the work to ask someone, and no one wants to do that.
Especially, you know, when you're suddenly, you know, I think it's great that you went door-to-door, but like, if you're, you have kids in the house, you're doing something else, you don't want to be like, well, how do you feel about this?
These are the issues that are important to me.
You want the shorthand.
You want to say, oh, you're affiliated with my team, that's good enough.
And that just doesn't really function in today's society.
danny farrar
Well, I mean, the real rubber where the meat's a road, and no one pays attention to this, is the local elections.
You know, everybody's hung up on Congress and President, but hey, if your property tax is going up, that's the county council guy, right?
And when we went to debates, you know, and I'm running for the entire county, there were like 10 people in the audience.
And it's like, we're not involved.
And we have the liberty, honestly, to not be involved, because for the most part, people are like, well, listen, man, I'm doing okay.
I'm eating.
I'm not worried about whether or not I'm going to get mugged.
I'm not worried about an armed insurrection right now.
So, eh, who really cares about Tom that owns a shoe shop that's running for county council?
But that's who makes and breaks your life, really.
tim pool
This is why it always irks me a little bit when people say, you know, vote for me for Congress and I'll clean up this town or things of that nature.
And I'm like, no, you won't.
You're going to go to D.C.
and represent us to them.
If you want to clean up your town, your neighbor, you got to vote local.
And the most important thing, especially for populists, is voting local.
Because, you know, some people are in favor of a convention of states.
Some aren't.
But you want to set the rules.
You want to change the laws in your state.
Maybe you're pro-choice.
Maybe you're pro-life.
That's your state reps.
The left might be wondering why, you know, Texas is banning abortion.
Well, the state-level politicians are the ones who do that.
Not Congress.
But all anyone ever talks about is national-level stuff.
It's a mistake.
hannah claire brimelow
The governor of New Hampshire really upset people when he said he wasn't going to run for Senate.
He was going to stay in New Hampshire because he believed his work was—he could do more for the people of New Hampshire as governor than as senator.
Because as senator, you end up spending most of your time in Washington.
I mean, if you—it's not that there isn't a place for both, but I think being involved locally is really where you make a huge difference.
It's unappreciated.
danny farrar
I think the real catch-22 is that—I think I really feel that 85 to 90% of people that go into politics, honestly, initially go into politics for very, very good reasons.
Very honest reasons, ethical reasons.
They want to make a difference.
The problem is, the longer you play that game, the more you become institutionalized with what it takes to get something to actually be accomplished.
I think a lot of people lose sight of how complicated even a state-level bill is, much less trying to pass a law that's going to affect the entire United States.
And that's why we get these bills that are ungodly lengths that have, you know, I'm going to make something up at a time, you know, We Want to Pet Puppies is thrown in with, hey, let's give $20 billion to Ukraine.
But we lead with Let's Pet Puppies, right?
tim pool
It's like one paragraph of We Want to Pet Puppies and then 5,000 pages of how we're going to strip money from the working class to fund a war in Ukraine.
hannah claire brimelow
But then the headline is, you know, Senator Votes Against Pet Puppy Act.
tim pool
Every time.
They do it across Massie a lot, I noticed.
He'll be like, I voted no on this.
I'll be like, how could you vote no against puppies?
And I'll be like, because of that provision said we blow them up afterwards.
danny farrar
But then no one wants to listen to that part either.
lydia smith
That part's boring.
Yeah, it's always bothered me that people get so frustrated with federal politics.
I'm like, you need to look at your next door neighbor.
You need to look at who's running for city council, who your mayor is going to be, who's running your school board.
These are important questions that affect you way more than the president ever will, honestly.
And people don't want to put the work in.
The federal government is there.
We can complain about them.
It's not that big a deal.
Sure, they tax us, whatever.
But for the most part, they leave us alone.
danny farrar
They tax though.
lydia smith
Yeah, oh, I know.
But if you actually do want to make a positive difference in your culture, you need to run like you did, or you need to at least, very least, pay attention to what's going on in your own community.
ian crossland
Part of why national politics is easier to get involved in is because it's televised.
A lot of it's televised.
We watch C-SPAN and crap like that.
But local politics isn't televised enough for people to like, because they don't want to go to the meeting.
People just don't want to.
They want to stay at home and witness it from their TV if they can.
tim pool
I think it is, but people people have only watched national news.
So it's like when you turn the nowadays with the Internet, you're not turning on your local news to see a local like public access.
People are turning on C-SPAN for Congress or they're pulling up CNN that only talks about the Fed or federal level, I mean.
danny farrar
I mean, at the reality now, speaking broad generalizations, like in today's society and economy, both parents have to work.
Your kids are involved in 15 different things.
So they're going right from piano practice to football practice to ballet practice.
They got a busier schedule than most adults now.
And so these debates and things, they don't take place to 530, 630 at night on a Thursday afternoon.
Well, that's little Timmy soccer practice.
What's the likelihood that I'm going to come to that?
You know, and that's where you lose it.
tim pool
Is that like Calvinism?
The idea that if everyone's working, they can't do anything else?
danny farrar
I don't know.
tim pool
I could be mixing things up.
ian crossland
Calvinism was a sect of Christianity, I believe.
lydia smith
It could be Puritanism, maybe, where people are super busy.
tim pool
Keep everybody busy toiling the fields so that they can't do anything else.
If everybody has to work 24-7, they can never revolt.
hannah claire brimelow
You don't have any trouble, I think is what the thought is.
No one can get into mischief or be lazy or do something like that.
ian crossland
That's like the road to Kim Jong-un's keep everyone starving and then they won't revolt kind of mentality.
danny farrar
But the other problem here, Nan, we saw this in Maryland.
And I was going off about this today because I still can't believe they pushed Cox through in the primary.
But at every measurable thing that you can look at just about, Maryland is substantially better off than it was before Governor Hogan took office.
And because one or two, I hate the term rhino.
It drives me nuts because anytime somebody disagrees with one thing that a Republican said, he or she is now automatically a rhino.
And it's really decimated a lot of times the Republican Party, in my opinion.
But they go in here, they make this big push for him.
And I'm like, dude.
You're never going to agree with everything that everyone says.
I guarantee you every one of us disagrees on something at this table, right?
But what you have to look at is, what is the overall picture?
Are we much better than we were there?
And then at the same time, like I was arguing with the guy who's talking about DeSantis, I was like, DeSantis couldn't come here and win in Maryland, and Governor Hogan couldn't take Maryland policy to Florida and get anything done.
It's two completely different electorates, and no one wants to acknowledge that.
And it's like, yo, like, listen, if you love DeSantis that much in Florida, which I thank it.
I went to Daytona during Bike Week and COVID, and they were having a blast.
Move to Florida.
That's your solution.
But if you're going to stay in Maryland, what are your choices?
You got your choices of having improvement, where he took us from like, I think 46 in business and economy to 6 over 8 years.
That's massive!
Why would you not be happy about that?
tim pool
I want to ask this question because I'm not sure if it was Alex Jones or someone,
I think it might have been Alex, implying that Joe Biden would get sick and then they would
replace him or bring in Kamala because Joe Biden can't run.
So the question that we've been asking right now is Joe Biden going to run for another
term?
He says yes.
I don't know if I believe it.
Because you've got all these Democrats lining up.
You've even got prominent Democrats outright saying to journalists, we don't think Biden's going to run.
We don't want him to run.
Polls are showing they don't want Biden to run.
So how could Biden run against the will of the Democrat voters, against the will of other Democrats, and in the face of all the Democrats running against him?
But if that's the case, How do you get Biden out now?
Well, some have suggested he'll get sick, or he is sick, or something will happen to his son.
I'm wondering what you guys think about this, you know, just bouncing back to the cancer thing, but taking it in this direction.
Could it be that this is meant to be sort of just a little sprinkling of the Biden is very sick thing?
So that when finally the time comes, I'll say, you know, like other presidents who have feigned illness, yes, he's sick and he needs to step down and Kamala's moving in.
ian crossland
I think, no, that it wasn't intentional only because of their response.
Like, no, no, he meant he used to have it.
And but I think it is an indication that he's sick and that they will pivot into that as it comes up.
I think I'll actually run.
He'll be on stage with other Democrats that are running and he'll be like, You know what, you're right.
You're the one that needs to take the torch and get like his 60 million followers to just clap and smile and turn towards the next person in line, whoever he- See, I wonder if it's going to be the opposite.
hannah claire brimelow
I wonder if they're going to be like, okay, Joe, so you're not going to run next anymore, so just keep it cool.
And he's going to be out somewhere and he's going to be like, yeah, so when I run for re-election, they're going to be like, what do we do?
Because we don't actually want to support this guy anymore.
tim pool
But I think the fact is Joe Biden's old, he is sick, I don't know if he has cancer, but imagine what would happen PR-wise for the Democrats if Joe Biden was on stage in a debate and collapsed.
That would be bad for Biden, but good for Democrats.
ian crossland
It's so funny that he said, I have cancer, and you were like, I don't know if he has cancer.
Like, you just don't know.
Anyone that came to me and told me that, I would believe them.
Why would you think they were lying to you?
tim pool
That's crazy.
I know, it's crazy, right?
danny farrar
Why do you think it would be good for Democrats?
tim pool
It would create a whole lot of sympathy.
It would give Biden an exit, which would- Be honorable.
An honorable exit.
They would say, you know, Biden sacrificed himself to stop Trump.
That kind of stuff.
Or sacrificed his health.
They would ham it up.
They would say, here's a man who stepped out of retirement after he lost his son, knowing he was sick because he knew America needed a leader.
And then, you know, he gets sick and maybe he doesn't die, maybe just collapses.
That's the perfect exit for Biden.
It's the perfect positive PR spin.
So I'm not saying it will happen, I don't know.
hannah claire brimelow
It gives him kind of like a martyr-like, heroic exit.
danny farrar
But I don't think they won't, Camilla.
I mean, I think, which I still don't understand how she got the nod as the VP.
tim pool
I agree, but if, just because she steps up as VP doesn't mean she runs in 2024.
She could, she'll go out there and, let's say hypothetically, Joe Biden faints, you know, on stage or something at some kind of town hall.
Interesting.
like, oh no, and then he's like, I can't run. You know, the American people, you're going
to need someone younger. Kamala steps in. They remember when they announced the 25th
amendment panel and everyone was like, they're trying to get Trump out. And then people like,
no, no, it's for Biden. Like they were preparing to remove Biden. Yeah. So they did that. And
a lot of people said that, you know, that's, what's going to happen.
It could still happen.
Biden gets sick faints.
unidentified
Kamala Harris says, I'm going to come in and I'm going to take over as president, but I'm going to step aside and let someone else run.
hannah claire brimelow
You're not gesticulating correctly.
She does a lot of this motion.
tim pool
Well, you know, I'll do my best.
danny farrar
We, the collective, knowing what we know, are going to do what we've always done today.
And I'm going to nominate Gatton for be president.
I just, I think she is, I still don't understand.
Like obviously the people that put this stuff together have more experience with it than I do.
But of all the people you could have picked, I mean, she wasn't even popular with what they were going for on the base.
So.
ian crossland
The DNC picks them.
danny farrar
Yeah.
ian crossland
And they pick Biden and they're going to pick the next one.
And they'll probably tell Biden, we picked this person now, just support them or something like that.
tim pool
Kamala Harris checked the right boxes, I guess.
lydia smith
Yeah, diversity.
tim pool
Yeah, diversity.
ian crossland
Woman of color, diversity.
danny farrar
But you couldn't find anyone else?
I mean, like, even... Tulsi Gabbard was a woman of color.
I'm a fan.
hannah claire brimelow
She doesn't think inside their box.
I mean, Tulsi Gabbard is too independent for them.
I don't think... I think Kamala Harris knew this was her shot.
She couldn't have run... I mean, she wasn't going to get the nomination on her own.
tim pool
I gotta say, you know, when we were talking about AOC, she went on Colbert, and she made up this mishmash hodgepodge of Civil War history that was just hilariously brilliant, and it was a Chad move.
It was the ultimate Chad move to go and just go on national television and just make up history.
And you gotta think about Kamala Harris.
You know, when she does these speeches that are considered auto-text, like, you know, predictive text filler, that's also a Chad move.
She's going up on stage knowing she's saying nothing and people clap for her.
It's just like the ultimate mockery of your own constituents.
danny farrar
And she just throws that cackle in behind it and it's just like nails on a chalkboard.
It's the worst thing.
hannah claire brimelow
I mean she has incredibly low approval ratings.
She's not popular at all.
I don't know how she But who do you pick, though?
danny farrar
Who do you pick?
If you could, right now, your choice, you gotta go Biden or you gotta go her.
Who do you want running the nation?
unidentified
Oh, her.
tim pool
Kamala.
I'd rather have a predictive text generator, a literal predictive text generator, than either of them.
But, you know, here's my fear with Joe Biden.
I think he's corrupt, but he's brain damaged.
So he might be like, I want, I want to get a shipment into Iran.
And you're like, what?
Iran?
Do you mean Iraq?
unidentified
What?
tim pool
No.
And then they're like, I guess we're going to be shipping Iran a bunch of military supplies.
The president said so.
And you're like, Whoa, dude, I get it.
You wanted to make money off this illicit deal, but he sent a weapon that when, when, when Biden accidentally said Libya over and over again, I'm like, imagine him in the situation where I'm like, tell him to press the button and they're bombing the wrong country.
At least Kamala Harris is corrupt, but she can speak properly.
You know what I mean?
Like, they're both not all with it, but she's just a little bit more cognitively with it.
danny farrar
I mean, honestly, that's a point I hadn't really thought about.
It's like, you know, you do get your finger on the button, you're just begging me to hit it, and then I say the wrong place.
tim pool
Well, we'll check it out.
It's, you know, Kamala and Biden are both corrupt, but Kamala lives on this planet and wants to keep living on this planet.
Joe Biden too, but his brain doesn't work.
So, you know, Biden might accidentally blow us up.
Kamala doesn't want to ruin, she doesn't want to kill the peasants who supply her with slave labor.
You know what I mean?
danny farrar
The question is, though, for me, who do you think pulls the strings?
Like, I don't believe there's some reptilian, like, you know, you go back, all of a sudden you pull the mask off, there's a lizard person there.
But at the same time, it's like, for you to have that much control, is it one person?
Is it a group of people?
How do you get to be in the group of people?
Like, who is actually the one filling out his notecard saying, hey, say this, and then also repeat line?
tim pool
I mean, it may just be staffers.
But that's scary in a way.
danny farrar
That's like super scary.
hannah claire brimelow
I feel like you'd want to take a critical look at who is propping Biden up because they have so much influence right now, especially if he's not capable of like saying no or being like, maybe I shouldn't say that.
I mean, this guy is reading his stage direction.
tim pool
The shadow government is a 22-year-old intern with no governmental experience.
He's just like, um, I guess Biden should probably say he doesn't want to blow up Russia.
hannah claire brimelow
He's in so deep.
He doesn't want to get fired.
danny farrar
And my experience with those interns is they're not really happy.
I mean, I've been down to Capitol to testify for stuff before.
And, you know, they literally have, which I've always thought it was funny when they talk about minimum wage and they've got a staffer.
That the door literally opens into them in their little office on the thing, and they're working 70, 80 hours for like 12 bucks an hour.
So he's mad, he's angry, and then all of a sudden, you know what, hey, you know what, I'm gonna, it's literally Ron Burgundy.
We're gonna show him this time.
tim pool
He's putting on the prompter, end of quote, repeat the line.
Yep.
He's doing it, because he could say F you America, but that's too heavy-handed, it's too much.
hannah claire brimelow
But I didn't might catch that one.
unidentified
No!
danny farrar
He said repeat line.
tim pool
Repeat the line.
danny farrar
That's bad.
hannah claire brimelow
That's crazy.
danny farrar
That's bad.
That's horrible.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Well, that's America for you, I guess.
This is what the American people wanted, huh?
danny farrar
They voted... Idiocracy.
ian crossland
That's what apathy gets.
tim pool
Well, I think it's a cult.
I think it's the media.
I think it's apathy for a lot of people.
They go out and they just hit the D. But I think they were able to get a lot of people in a cult.
You know?
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
Oh, yeah.
You asked why is the media went?
At what point did the media stop serving the transparency and start serving an agenda?
My thought, the answer to that is when we go to war, whenever the country goes to war, the media apparatus rallies to start printing propaganda, war propaganda.
We really we went to war, not technically, but in 2001 when we hit Iraq.
And then it's never stopped.
We're still in this turmoil.
And now I guess you could say we're out of Iraq.
We're still occupying or out of Afghanistan.
We're still occupying Iraq.
And now Russia, there's a war between the Ukraine and Russia
that the government seems to want to be involved in.
danny farrar
What blows my mind is the shift from 9-12.
Because I took the first, I responded to the Pentagon on the terrorist attacks and secured the Pentagon
and then ultimately took the first team in to start doing remains removal.
And when we would leave the Pentagon to go back to do shift changes, you just see everybody honking the horn, waving the flag, everybody unified.
And in such a relatively short period of time, we've just become just really two almost warring tribes.
And like literally, they've had people say, you know, you might have to fight your neighbor, right?
So for me, it's like, when did we make that major, major shift?
And was it just because the news went to a 24-hour cycle and now they need to sell commercial space or they're only going to put the most divisive, angry rhetoric up because it keeps people engaged?
Or is it something more than that?
ian crossland
I think after the 9-11, there was a lot of Muslim hate and that created the tribes.
And so it was like Christian, Muslim, American, Afghani, whatever.
And then it slowly morphed with social media started finding out how much more popular their cliques were when you got angry.
But at some point, people got turned against each other, Republicans and Democrats.
It was like when Trump got elected, they used that as a catalyst media apparatus.
But I don't know if it's an external thing.
You know, it's not all American.
NBC News is not all American all the time.
Like there's people involved in that that aren't American.
I don't know.
I don't know that there's necessarily a date, but it was like around 2012 or 2013.
danny farrar
I did social media and then when you look at that side of the house where you get the echo chambers
Where now your algorithms only show you the exact same people that believe exactly what you believe and then you
actually go like hey Man, i'm super right and everybody backs me up
But because you don't have like you don't have the town halls the community engagement anymore
COVID made it worse because everybody was literally confined to their house.
And so now we just become further and further instead of, I think Jordan Peterson is the one that talks about it, is that people are inherently born with a, he calls them red and blue, like inherently a left worldview and inherently a right worldview.
And up until social media, that was actually good because you had to come together and you had to have conversation and compromise.
And so we actually kind of got a little bit centrist in the middle of the road.
But now, because we don't really have to interact with each other in person that often anymore, and we have these echo rooms on social media, like, the divide is just huge.
And that's what makes it scary for things like, is it possible for us to see something like a civil war or something where we actually have this big fight coming down the pike?
tim pool
I do think so.
Let me jump to, we got a lot of stories we gotta go through, but maybe the most important one right now in this context is this story from Business Insider.
Democrats spend over $1 million to boost Dan Cox, the Trump loyalist and 2020 election denier who just won the GOP primary for Maryland governor.
Literal conspiracy.
It's a literal conspiracy.
The Democrats have a scheme to put money into Trump-supporting candidates who they then come out and say are an existential threat.
They are scheming to manipulate the American people, freaking them out, but funding.
It's a false flag.
This is literally the Democrats engaging in a false flag.
This is going... Look, let's say the Democrats are right.
Trump supporters are an existential threat to this country.
Trump's candidates and MAGA candidates, they're funding them and propping them up.
Some are winning the primaries.
The idea is we'll beat them in the primary.
And if you don't, and even if you do, they gain followers from you helping them regardless.
They're not going to go away.
So if the Democrats are right, it's a threat.
They are literally funding it.
And if the reality is they're not a threat, Democrats are engaging in a false flag operation on the American people via politics to seize power.
Okay, fine.
That's not a coup attempt.
That's something dastardly at the very least.
hannah claire brimelow
Do you know who's warning them against this?
Mitt Romney.
He's telling them this is a stupid strategy, you shouldn't do this.
I believe Hogan even came out and said, like, we are— Yeah, he was saying we're having democratic interference in our election.
I mean, Hogan has called Cox a QAnon whack job, I believe is the quote.
He is not a fan at all.
But he is also not looking, you know, for a guy who's built his reputation on being able to work with Democrats in his state.
He doesn't want this organization coming in and messing with Maryland.
danny farrar
I mean, they were they were actively putting this out.
You know, Kelly Schultz had sent out multiple email campaigns.
I got him saying, like, listen, like, this is what's happening.
And for me, I was actually, I've talked about it several times today, like, I am still mind blown.
And people, you know, they were talking about it, like, one of my friends was like, these are gonna put God and country back into, you know, the schools.
And I'm like, no, he's not.
He's in Maryland.
Democrats outnumber you two to one, and the independents in Maryland aren't going to lean that far right, in my opinion.
Maybe I'll be absolutely crazy, but the guy they're putting him up against, I don't know if you know anything about Wes Moore, but Wes Moore won the top 40 under 40, very important people shaping the future of Maryland when I won it.
He wrote a book called The Other Wes Moore.
He's a, I'm almost positive he's a combat veteran, but I know he's definitely a veteran.
He was from Baltimore, went, he's a best-selling author, you know.
hannah claire brimelow
His book is interesting.
danny farrar
He's a handsome fella, you know, tall and handsome.
hannah claire brimelow
Don't bring that up again.
unidentified
He's gonna.
hannah claire brimelow
I make one gaffe and then I'm Joe Biden.
danny farrar
You know, he's gonna, in Baltimore and in Maryland, he's gonna, he's gonna chew Dan Cox up.
tim pool
Check out the New York Times data.
62% reporting from the Democrat side, and they're already up about 140,000 votes.
So, you know, look, the question about whether or not Democrat Maryland goes Republican, I'm not super worried about that.
Dan Cox won by 16 points.
Good for him.
I don't see Kelly Schultz winning either.
I mean, the turnout on the Republican side wasn't that high.
The bigger issue is Democrats and the schemes, the manipulation on the American people.
Look, did you really think Maryland, regardless of this, would become a Republican state?
danny farrar
I didn't think it would become a Republican state.
I personally, and I know Kelly, and maybe there's some bias there, but I genuinely think that she had an opportunity coming behind Hogan where the state had improved as much as it had and I believe she was a commerce secretary or labor secretary one of the two and I thought she could get independence and could and again with the sentiment being as much against Biden as it is that she stands a very strong probability at this year.
I literally said if you're going to win this was the year for you to win, right?
I think she had a shot and still was gonna be a fight.
Dan Cox, I'll owe you 20 push-ups.
tim pool
I mean, I get that too.
But she couldn't even muster... It's like if you can't get enough support from your own party, I don't see how she could win.
Look, I...
If you can't convince Republicans to vote for you, you think you'll convince independents, I suppose?
I just don't know.
hannah claire brimelow
And I think Maryland's a weird state for Republicans because basically all of one side of it, the three western counties want to leave.
They don't want to be involved anymore.
danny farrar
They want to go join West Virginia.
hannah claire brimelow
They sent letters to West Virginia being like, please, we'd like to go.
And West Virginia was like, we'll have you, just you have to ask Baltimore.
And Baltimore is like, shh, can't hear you.
Stop asking that.
danny farrar
I don't think they would do that because then what would happen if there was all of a sudden just a massive migration of parts of states?
Like they literally just start swapping and changing.
unidentified
They should!
danny farrar
It's not a bad idea.
tim pool
Save the country, in my opinion.
State of Jefferson.
hannah claire brimelow
The county under the eastern panhandle in West Virginia, it's part of Virginia, it has Winchester, Virginia in it.
In its constitution, if I'm remembering correctly, a West Virginia state senator told me this.
They have a bylaw in there that When West Virginia seceded, they left it so if they decide later they're frustrated with Virginia, they could leave.
So that still stands.
They could file out and be like, we don't want to be here anymore.
That's not true for the three counties in Maryland, but it is interesting that there are these places saying, we don't look like where our capitals are.
We are not represented by our values.
tim pool
We're in Western Maryland and it is MAGA country.
You go to the grocery store outside of Frederick and Brunswick and it's like Trump signs everywhere.
hannah claire brimelow
And it gets more intense as you keep driving through the panhandle.
tim pool
But you, right, but you go into Frederick and then the Trump flags turn into rainbow flags.
danny farrar
And what's crazy about that is, and we were actually talking about this earlier, is like a Republican, even when, because Frederick flipped the year that I ran, it flipped blue, right?
And there was a big conversation about whether or not it was going to stay that way based on the migration from Montgomery County up.
But what's crazy about it is, why does that happen in just the city?
Like everything else is absolutely red, but this little small city that we have, it instantly morphs to where it's Democrat.
And then it's all people coming in.
And what's crazy about it is people leave MoCo because they don't like MoCo, and then they turn Frederick into MoCo.
People leave California and go to Austin because they didn't like California, but you turn Austin into California, And it's like, because they don't, they don't understand,
tim pool
they don't understand how they cause the problem.
The snowflake doesn't blame itself for the avalanche.
Simply put, Joe Rogan moves from California to Texas, like Texas will be better.
And then everyone says, yeah, but, but I like Joe's opinions.
And then it's like, but Joe has staff and Joe has industry around him and the industry
is woke and left.
So if Joe Rogan comes to Austin, sets up a comedy club, which he's doing, he's going
to attract woke leftists from California who aren't going to have those opinions.
He's going to attract their sound producers and their stage managers and their taxi drivers
and their restaurateurs.
And then Texas turns Democrat colonization.
Yeah, it feels like they're colonizing. But to be fair, there is a cultural influx into Texas,
which is actually turning it fairly purplish, like purple leaning red. And I'm hearing like in
Austin, it's it's it's like kind of kind of blue, but people there are fairly anti woke,
which is surprising, not completely. But I'm hearing I'm hearing that at least from a lot of
people. And what I'm hearing from some of our friends who moved Austin, it's because they're
moving there. So maybe it is a good thing. Me, I like West Virginia, because it's already like
the second most Trump supporting state in the country with like 86% Trump support.
hannah claire brimelow
Not the entire state, every county went red.
tim pool
Yeah, I mean, I'm not saying Trump is a god-emperor or anything like that, but I would rather be surrounded by people who will leave me alone than people who won't, simply put.
hannah claire brimelow
I like West Virginia because it's culturally purple, like it was such a blue state for such a long time, and it's changed to being red now.
I mean, I think it is, I said this before, but it's a marker of the fact that the parties are changing, but the people's values aren't necessarily.
They're not being interpreted or projected by the parties the way they were back in the day.
And I don't know.
I think that you'll see that there are states that turn blue because of migration, but you'll see states that turn purple because they're not represented equally by the two-party system anymore.
ian crossland
That's a good point.
You were saying earlier, Dani, that you thought that like...
Oh, I think I lost my thought there.
Oh, that rhino, you don't like the term rhino, dino, you know, Republican animal only.
And what you're saying, Hannah-Claire, is like, that the people aren't being represented by the party.
There's too many disparate ideas to have one party represent them.
There should be lots of different parties at this state, at this point, I think.
Because people are rhinos.
They say they're Republican because it's one or the other, you gotta pick one, but your identity is not, doesn't fall in line with that message.
danny farrar
Well, there used to be the term, like, blue blood Democrat, right?
Blue dog, yeah.
Which was, yeah, blue dog Democrat or whatever it is, but like, it's like, back then, like, you were, kind of how I look at myself, like, I don't want you spending my money, you know what I'm saying?
I don't want you in my life, but I don't care what you do in your life.
Like, knock yourself out.
It doesn't bother me at all.
Like, if you want to hug trees, hug trees.
I'm cool with that.
But that's gone now.
And what I can't understand is how the parties continuously switch back and forth as to who's who.
You guys were talking about it the other day, where like now the Republican Party's becoming like the blue-collar working person, right?
Where that was the Democrats for a long time.
Like it was blue-collar, unions, the whole nine yards.
So at one point in time, Democrats had the KKK.
When were we... How does that switch happen?
tim pool
I don't think it ever switched.
Yeah, I don't.
Yeah, I don't think so.
There's a whole bunch of articles and many have written their thesis on how the party switch never happened, but I think if you look at the Democrats today and you look at the Democrats in the 50s and go back, you're like, their policies had similar results across the board.
It was just I mean, it is what it is.
danny farrar
Well, let's take places like Baltimore.
Like, how do you blame Republicans?
And Democrats have been in charge there for what?
tim pool
And Chicago.
And how do you blame the right for police brutality?
Or, you know, they march in New York City, but they keep voting for these people to keep doing it.
Then protest the people they're voting for.
They talk about racist cops?
Yo, you live in a Democrat stronghold in New York where Democrats are appointing the racists.
That's why I'm like, it's not changed.
It's the same thing.
They just need the PR push to claim it did.
I look at the policies Democrats are enacting.
Look at this.
California, they tried to repeal their civil rights provision from their state constitution.
That's the Democrats for ya!
You know, it's funny, right now, I was like, I was trolling on Twitter, and I put something like, someone commented about abortion and denial of personhood rights, and I said, yeah, well, you know who else wanted to deny personhood rights?
And I was gonna put the Confederacy, and then I was like, that was also the Democrats.
And I was like, oh wait, the Democrats back then denied personhood, they deny it today.
You know, look, you want to issue a moral statement on abortion?
Fine, that's not what I'm saying.
I'm saying the left is inherently of opposing personhood rights for the unborn.
It was the Democratic Party that opposed personhood rights for slaves.
The Republicans wanted civil rights and constitutional rights for everybody.
danny farrar
So you think the Democrats just, for literally the entire time with the United States, just have a better PR team?
tim pool
Well, I don't know about a better PR team.
I think they had a worse PR team in the Civil War.
You had, I think, almost three times as many Union soldiers fighting against them.
So I think maybe later on they started to figure out, maybe in the past several decades, they learned control of institutions was power and they needed to seize it.
You know, I take a look at a lot of the... Yeah, we talked a bit about this the other day.
You take a look at AOC pretending to be handcuffed, and it's just like manipulation for power.
ian crossland
Oh, she actually said something about that, said that if it's... It was just safer.
Yeah, you're supposed to keep them down and back because otherwise, if your arms are flailing, they might say you're resisting arrest.
unidentified
Oh, come on!
hannah claire brimelow
I really wanted the headline on our site to be, AOC poses in handcuffs in front of Capitol because it was just like such a moment.
She clearly decided that was the way it was supposed to be.
danny farrar
But is anything less impressive than getting, being a Congress person, getting arrested where there's absolutely going to be no real repercussion against you?
ian crossland
Catch and release.
hannah claire brimelow
Did she face any backlash for that from people being like, there are people who are arrested who don't have the ability to get out of jail the way you would, you know?
tim pool
I wouldn't be surprised if the vote comes for its own being like, you're privileged, that's why you got out of jail, or whatever.
Then she'd be like, but I'm fighting for you, and it's like...
Look, it is undeniable that you have many Democrats today who will publicly scream racism is bad, whereas you had Democrats in the past who would scream that segregation was good.
Like, the problem is, Democrats saying racism is bad is just a mask for them saying segregation is good.
Democrats are outright the party of segregation today, and they've always been.
That's why I'm like, I don't know where that party is, which supposedly happened.
You can say it was the 50s or whatever.
But when you go to Seattle or Portland, you see the libraries and they have POC and non-POC rooms.
You're like, yeah, it ain't the Republicans who are calling for that.
It's the Democrats once again.
hannah claire brimelow
Wasn't there a college where a bunch of, or a group of students of color had been like, we want our own dorm.
We should be like, allowed to have our own space.
And you were thinking like, but I thought this is segregation.
I thought we had fought against this.
tim pool
They do that.
I was reading someone's article about how they have like Asian dorms and black dorms.
I think it's like UC, the UC system in California, University of California system.
And the answer I think they gave, I could be wrong, was like, people want this.
And I'm like, you know, I guess it doesn't mean you you make it. You know what I
mean? If if you know if people choose to live next to each other I guess there's not really much you
can say if people are looking for a dorm and you're like that's the dorm for your race that's the
dorm for their race it's like that's a that's a bad idea you should not do that. I just thought it
hannah claire brimelow
was weird because it's these institutions that like charge you a bunch of money to live like this far
away like one arm's length away from the Their rooms are so small you can touch your roommate's bed.
And then they're like, no, but if people want to live by race, it's fine.
Like, they don't actually care about how people live.
tim pool
How crazy is that, man?
hannah claire brimelow
They're caring about the money.
tim pool
I remember hanging out at the Columbia dorms in Chicago, and it's a two-bedroom with, I think, eight or maybe it was four or eight people.
I'm not sure.
I think it was four people.
Each room had two bunk beds in it.
I had a bunk bed in it for two beds.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
And then they were like, it's a thousand bucks a month to live here.
And then I was like, you live with three other people and you spent a thousand
dollars a month. Why don't y'all just like, I don't know, buy a house.
You got four grand per month.
You can go buy a house not that far away from here.
And they're like, I don't know.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, colleges make it a requirement to live on campus.
So that first year they're charging you and you have to buy whatever the biggest like food or meal package or whatever else.
So they're guaranteeing money.
I mean, they are not in it for your personal growth.
They're in it for their bottom line.
tim pool
College is a scheme.
unidentified
Yep.
ian crossland
Do they actually make people live on campus?
There were people that would commute on when I was going.
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, different schools do it different ways, but a lot of schools, the first year, first two, you're required to live on campus.
danny farrar
It's like a status school where it's like cool for you to be part of it.
So they want to make You have to agree to it.
In community college, no one cares that you're going.
You can commute all you want.
hannah claire brimelow
But they market it to families as like, oh, so your student can get adjusted and be acclimated and get used to living away from home.
It's a safety net.
They're going to babysit your kid for you.
ian crossland
That is cultish beyond measure.
I didn't know they were forcing kids to go stay there with them while they indoctrinate them.
I thought that people could still commute.
That's crazy.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, it's just the first two years when you're the most vulnerable to indoctrination.
ian crossland
Most susceptible.
tim pool
Well, OK, let's get good news.
Good news for everybody.
So you can you can have some optimism and hope for your day.
Federal probe into Hunter Biden has reached a critical juncture and investigators are weighing possible charges.
So I don't know, crack your beers or your pizzas, get your wings, have a celebration, kick back.
Nothing's happened yet, but maybe Hunter Biden will actually be charged for being a criminal.
lydia smith
Do you guys think that's actually going to happen?
danny farrar
No.
lydia smith
I don't either.
tim pool
But it's like sprinkling a little bit of hope in front of us.
lydia smith
It's so nice.
tim pool
Like maybe there's going to be some accountability.
danny farrar
What would happen even if he was, right?
I mean, everybody's seen all that.
I mean, we literally have video footage.
You know, it's kind of like that old joke where they were like, I think Dave Chappelle's
one that did it, it was like, how would you agree that R.
Kelly actually did it?
I'd have to have a video of his grandma pointing at him going, that's my baby.
There's countless videos of him doing coke, crack, weapons, strippers.
tim pool
The weighing meth video was like the funniest where he's like he's arguing with the hooker about how much meth he's got on his scale.
ian crossland
Is that meth or crack?
I've heard both.
danny farrar
I'm pretty sure it's meth.
It's everything.
hannah claire brimelow
Do you remember when Bush's daughters like it was a big scandal because they were like buying alcohol underage and now we have like Hunter Biden who's like with his hookers weighing his meth like what a country what a time.
tim pool
She's like, that's 20.7.
He goes, it's 20.6.
ian crossland
Oh, OK.
tim pool
She's trying to rip him off.
ian crossland
I mean, you got to charge.
danny farrar
At least he's an negotiator.
tim pool
You see, was it the Babylon Bee that wrote, inflation is so bad you can only buy 20?
It was like, you can only buy 2.6 grams of crack from what you used to be able to buy 20.6 or whatever.
I mean, if he gets charged, it gives me, you know, I go from having no faith in the government to having like 0.1% faith in the government.
ian crossland
Yeah, really?
Will he throw his child under the bus to renegotiate faith?
hannah claire brimelow
I think this must be a crazy time to be his kids.
I think one of his daughters is getting married.
They're going to host her reception at the White House.
Like, meanwhile, while she's planning that, we have like her dad's hooker and meth photos coming out.
ian crossland
The question is, are one of Hunter's daughters?
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, one of Hunter's daughters is supposed to be getting married.
I think, I think it's one of the Biden granddaughters is going to have a reception at the White House, I assume soon before he has to maybe leave office.
But I think it's one of Hunter's daughters.
And I just think like, man, that's your dad.
danny farrar
Do you invite dad?
Is he allowed to come to the wedding?
hannah claire brimelow
I don't know.
ian crossland
Definitely invite him.
Video chat if he's in jail.
tim pool
Well, you gotta be careful, you know, like if you're Hunter, just word of the wise, a word from the wise Hunter, make sure your dad doesn't sniff your daughter.
hannah claire brimelow
Does he get to bring a date is the question?
tim pool
Allegedly.
ian crossland
He must.
tim pool
Allegedly Hunter calls his dad a pedo.
unidentified
Really?
tim pool
So it's allegedly.
Yeah, potential leaked texts.
He refers to his dad as pedo Peter.
danny farrar
Which is honestly, like, if you think about it like that, then you almost kind of have to have, like, he almost becomes a sympathetic figure.
Like, is he that messed up?
tim pool
I think Joe Biden abused Hunter.
lydia smith
Oh, for sure.
tim pool
Like, how do you get a guy raised in a family that wealthy to turn out the way he did with hookers and all these drugs?
Because his dad...
Gropes and sniffs little kids publicly, what does he do with them in private?
ian crossland
He was probably vacant a lot too, being a politician, working on the hill, like he was always away at work.
His son's mom and sister had died in the car accident when he was like two, when Hunter was two, he was in the car with them.
So he lost his mom, he lost his sister.
His brother actually died, Beau Biden, from cancer a while back, like a decade ago or something.
So, Hunter, I mean, what a broken environment just from a top-down observation looking at that family.
Now, then you add the personal stuff that he actually calls his dad, allegedly, Pedo Peter.
You don't just joke around about your parents being pedophiles.
danny farrar
Unless he's not joking.
ian crossland
I don't know people that joke around about their parents being pedophiles.
I've never met somebody like that.
tim pool
Unless he's not joking.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah, I always thought it was weird that during, I think it was, it must have been the 2020 Democratic National Convention, that they were highlighting all of his granddaughters really intensely.
And then all of a sudden they're like, and his one grandson.
They're like, we talk to grandpa every day and like, we do this.
And like, you know, I obviously hope they have a very positive and healthy relationship with whoever in their lives, but like, they really, really focused on these girls, ignoring the fact that he had two sons.
They didn't really talk about any of his actual kids.
It's like, they needed a fresh face because maybe everyone else like, couldn't manage to swing a positive statement about Biden.
It was just weird.
ian crossland
You're talking about Hunter's daughters or Joe's?
hannah claire brimelow
So he has like, It's five grandchildren, I think, and I think it's, or maybe four, but it's like two girls from Beau's marriage and then a boy and a girl from Hunter's marriage.
ian crossland
The Tara Reid complaints where she said he pushed her up against the wall and just basically sexually assaulted her in one of the buildings over there at the Capitol.
Like the way he grabs women and I'm talking about Joe Biden has on video like grabbed women and smelled them and sometimes you see the girls recoil like that one redhead girl was like recoiling from it I mean very overtly like making that face like what is he doing kind of face and you can hear him going like give me some of that sugar that's so nasty it's so just I mean that hard grab you know I mean that's like an old 1950s smacker when she's like if she's if you're angry it kind of Come on, man.
tim pool
You gotta give her a firm open palm smack on the bottom.
ian crossland
The Tara Reade stuff has to be investigated.
I mean, it was so... Her claims are so damning about what he did to her.
tim pool
I mean, dude, look at the guy.
There's websites dedicated to showing him sniffing and groping.
It's abusive to children, you know?
ian crossland
Truly, literally, what that girl was going through and that redhead girl, that was like a form of abuse.
tim pool
Remember when Joe Biden would say that, you know, I'd be at the pool and the kids would touch my hairy legs.
unidentified
I got hairy legs.
Remember that stuff?
Yeah.
tim pool
Someone made a meme and they said, uh, what if Corn Pop actually was just a dude who saw Biden creeping on children and called him out?
ian crossland
What's the Corn Pop story?
tim pool
Joe Biden said he saw a guy get up on a diving board, or he's running or something, and he said, hey Esther, stop running.
And the guy was like, what did you call me?
And he called her Esther Williams or something.
So then the Corn Pop guy, you know, had a razor blade, you put it in a rain barrel, get it all rusty, you know?
And then Joe, you know, some guy told him to get a chain and fight him, and then Joe said, I apologize, Colin, you asked your man, I shouldn't have done that, and then the guy backed off.
It was a story he told at the pool, and a bunch of people were like, you know what makes more sense is that a young-ish, a young man, Joe Biden, was creeping on children, because he's, you know, a creepo, and this dude saw him and was like, yo, get out, what the, you know what I mean?
I mean, Biden told his stories like the kids would grab his legs!
It's a creepy story anyway.
unidentified
I got hairy legs.
The kids would grab my legs and they would rub them and the hairs would go straight.
tim pool
That's what he said.
I think Corn Pop may have been like, you leave those kids alone, man.
ian crossland
Shout out to Corn Pop.
unidentified
Shout out.
tim pool
Yeah, what if Corn Pop was the good guy?
lydia smith
He was the hero we needed.
ian crossland
The twist.
That's the twist we need.
tim pool
I mean, I think Joe Biden's an abusive guy.
I think he's a corrupt guy.
I think he's crooked across the board.
And it wouldn't surprise me if this whole sick thing is an act so that people think he's a bumbling idiot when he's actually just gut in the country.
ian crossland
Regarding this story about Hunter Biden possible charges, what are these possible charges for?
tim pool
Tax violations or making false statements when buying a gun.
He would have been prohibited from purchasing a gun because he admitted he has a drug problem.
And that's what everybody was calling out, like, You care about gun control?
Start with arresting Hunter Biden, who lied in his gun form.
We all saw it.
And then he threw the gun in a dumpster.
No, was it his wife?
lydia smith
Somebody threw it in a dumpster.
tim pool
Threw it in a dumpster next to a school.
lydia smith
Yeah, what the heck?
danny farrar
Well, that's always been the issue when people scream for gun control.
Like, you've got gun control in place everywhere and now you just don't actually enforce it.
So what's another rule?
What's another law?
It's not going to do anything.
But now that, I mean, I didn't know the thing about the pedo thing.
I was, I was sexually abused as a kid.
And so like that has a, you know, that has a relatively profound effect on you for the rest of your life.
And now like, now you made me feel so bad for the guy.
I'm like, man, Lord, what if he really does have all that issue?
And he's just been the scapegoat for this the whole time.
tim pool
Yeah, Hunter Biden was probably abused by his dad.
hannah claire brimelow
I mean, I do think, though, that, like, people who suffer horrible things as kids still have some responsibility for the damage they cause as adults.
danny farrar
I absolutely agree with that.
I'm a big person for personal accountability.
But at the same time, like, for me, you know, it was, like, family members that did it to me, but they weren't sitting congressmen.
You know, there's also, like, a level of I don't know if you're at that position or you're president like I've met a couple presidents and like it's weird like you get an it's almost like a presence about them and so you add on top of the fact that they're your dad that all yeah they're one of the most powerful men in the country too.
Like, what could he have got that guy to do?
You know?
What if he was just a scapegoat?
What if it was more than just, uh, he was, you know, sexually abusing him?
The mental side of it.
Hey, you know what?
You're going to do this.
You're going to do this.
I'm going to actually put you out as a pawn.
So if anything bad happens, it's happening to you.
It's not happening to me, but I'm still going to reap the benefit of all the deals that you make.
ian crossland
I've heard that Jill and Hunter also do not get along at all.
Jill, Joe's current wife, Hunter's stepmom, basically, now this is hypothetically, just resents Hunter because not only does he remind Jill of his mother, Joe's first wife, and probably love of his life or something, but Hunter's a And a screw up.
And so he's putting a bad name out there.
So she's like, oh, and he's hurting Joe's reputation.
I can't, you know.
So but in the text, he's like really vicious against her as well, which I imagine is another layer of stress, family stress, personal stress.
I have sympathy for him, but I don't doesn't condone the behavior.
danny farrar
Yeah.
tim pool
I mean, I can sympathize with like victimhood, but nothing that he's done.
You know, like, look, he's an adult man who has done really messed up things.
That's that's that's that's on him.
ian crossland
It's a lot of it, too, is nonviolent.
So that's, you gotta take that into account, too.
Like, possession charges, you know, prostitution, drug charges.
Like, no one's dying.
tim pool
If people have been shown up dead... Oh, I was talking about his illicit business dealings with foreign governments.
ian crossland
That's actually a way bigger deal than the coke, or the drugs, in my opinion.
danny farrar
Well, maybe that's why they go for the gun thing, or this type of charge here, because we can say we convict you on something, or we can go there, but we're actually going to ignore the really bad things that you did.
tim pool
They distract from the bigger issues and the illicit business dealings by, you know, and it'll give them a slap on the wrist.
It'll be like, well, it's your first time and, you know, you're gonna get a year probation or something.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
tim pool
Biden pardons them.
unidentified
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, I stand by, like, there's a bunch of kids, like, there are young children in this family.
I mean, they're in their 20s or teens now, but, like, Remember that Hunter had an affair with Bo.
Like, he was married and then he had an affair with Bo's widow.
Like, your actions have tons of consequences.
There are people who you brought into this world who did not choose to be the grandchild of a politician, to be the daughters and sons of, like, a guy who is, you know, I want to be empathetic to what he might be struggling with, but at the same time, like, This guy is destructive and he takes people down with him, it seems like.
Especially people who don't really deserve it.
And he records it.
tim pool
Yeah, he just films everything.
hannah claire brimelow
But he's really good at weighing math, so.
tim pool
It's almost like there's that James O'Keefe meme where it's like a guy meets a hot girl and then immediately just says to her, like, so let me tell you about all the corporate malfeasance I'm involved in.
danny farrar
Yeah.
tim pool
And you wonder why it is, like, James gets these guys on camera, like, why are you telling them about these things you do at your job that's wrong?
It's so weird!
And Hunter Biden's like an inverse of that where he's like, I'm doing something illegal, better get my camera out.
lydia smith
No, what the heck?
tim pool
Better film it, put it on my phone, the cloud in my laptop.
hannah claire brimelow
It feels like a self-destructive streak.
danny farrar
Like where I'm trying to get caught?
Like I keep, I keep like, I, you know, I want to, I want to make atonement, right?
Maybe he has a conversation with Jesus every night and he's like, I'm really messing this up.
So I'm, I'm trying to get what's supposed to come to me, but they just won't arrest me no matter what I send them.
ian crossland
Yeah, leaving the laptop, like he did, that, you could argue maybe he was drug addled and forgot it, but that feels like self-hatred, and like he wants to take down Joe, and he wants to expose it all, but doesn't have the strength, feels like he can't overtly do it.
unidentified
I don't know.
ian crossland
So you make it seem like an accident.
danny farrar
Or maybe he just knows nothing's gonna happen to him, and it's like flaunting it in your face.
I'm gonna do whatever I want, you can't do anything about it, I'm protected by Dad, and we're just gonna call it a day.
tim pool
I think drug addled makes sense.
But he probably walked in and he was like, He might have forgot that he left it there.
ian crossland
But but drugs most well, actually, I don't know.
I can't speak for all drugs.
tim pool
So I don't know if he was doing grass.
Yeah, he's probably wired.
ian crossland
Yeah, I don't know.
tim pool
He probably took that whole computer apart and rebuilt it himself.
hannah claire brimelow
Maybe Bynum's kids are just very forgetful.
I mean, he leaves his laptop, Ashley leaves her diary, like they just are not good at keeping track of their belongings.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
It's just a stutter.
tim pool
They record everything.
ian crossland
He just stuttered.
No, I'm just kidding.
That's a Joe Biden meme.
Not just a stutter, by the way.
tim pool
Let's jump to this very Tim Pool-esque story from the Daily Mail.
Half of Americans expect a second civil war within years.
More than 40% agree with Great Replacement Theory, and nearly a fifth expect they will choose to bring a gun to a violent political... What?
Wow.
Alarming poll shows.
danny farrar
How do you poll that?
tim pool
Call a thousand people and be like, do you plan on bringing a gun to a political event?
Like, yes I do.
Okay, I recommend against that.
Half of Americans expect to see a second civil war within years, and nearly a fifth say they could one day be toting guns at a political face-off themselves.
Researchers at the University of California Davis uncovered worrying levels of alienation, mistrust, and a growing tendency to turn violence How many?
in their recently conducted survey of 8,620 adults.
That's a huge sample size.
lydia smith
How many?
tim pool
8,620.
That's like four times what's considered a good number.
Let me tell you why I think it's worse than people realize.
Because when I call, when I'm talking to a lawyer, they say, pick your jurisdiction based on
which president appointed them.
And I'm like, okay, that's not a tenable circumstance.
You can't have a country where this district judge is a Biden, this one's Trump.
So what's your case for and against?
Okay, then go to the Trump one.
It's like that juror in the Bannon thing who said, I don't care what he says because of who he affiliates with.
It doesn't matter.
If you're a conservative and you're in DC on trial, locked up.
If you're a liberal on trial, now you're fine.
They'll release you.
ian crossland
What's the Great Replacement thing they're talking about?
lydia smith
Browning of America.
tim pool
It depends on who you ask, but it's basically that immigration is displacing natural born
Americans and then there's the white nationalist version.
So like the left will say it's always the idea that white people are being displaced
by brown people, but many people who are talking about immigration might just say it's natural
born citizens being replaced by foreign citizens.
ian crossland
I think the argument from the left, you know, is that over time people of color will get married to and have children with people of not color, if that's the point.
We're all color, but whatever.
The people of European ancestry will get with people from South America or whatever.
And then their children will be mixed.
That's that kind of replacement.
Not that someone's going to come in from South America and then you're going to be unemployed and no longer be participating in society.
That's the white nationalist fear of replacement.
It could be both.
tim pool
Both could be both.
What they're saying is that the white population is decreasing, the white nationalist version, and then minority populations are increasing.
The general idea is just Democrats have publicly stated immigration is a path to political power for them.
Education.
But here's a question.
It's simple, leftists don't have kids.
They're more likely to abort and sterilize.
So how do they compete with conservatives who have lots of kids?
Immigration.
danny farrar
Education.
But here's a question.
tim pool
Yes, and indoctrination.
danny farrar
For people that say, for people that say there's a civil war,
who's leading?
How's it split?
Right?
Like, we don't have the same, you know, we don't have North versus South in this society.
tim pool
What countries did?
danny farrar
What's that?
tim pool
What countries did?
Most civil wars don't function that way.
Most civil wars are like random factions all over the place that eventually coalesce when fighting starts.
So, the U.S.
is unique in that you had a union of states break apart, and then the union was like, you can't break apart, invaded the South, the South, you know, teams up or whatever, joins forces.
Most civil wars are like, a random faction with a weird name starts fighting in one area against the government, then other factions pop up, then eventually, groups coalesce and then they're fighting each other.
You take a look at, like, in Syria, you had 12 different factions emerge under ISIS, you know?
So, one scenario could be, With the United States, it very well could be state versus state.
It could be like the old Civil War.
The scenario that we talked about quite a bit over the past week is, what happens if a man and a woman, you know, get together and the woman gets pregnant in Texas, where it's illegal to abort, and then at eight months the woman decides to go to Colorado to abort, and the husband or the husband or boyfriend or whatever is like, I will not allow you to kill my child.
Now you're going to have a very serious conflict because there's no federal statute and both states are completely on the other end.
One saying you're killing a child, the other saying no we're not and we're allowed to do it.
One saying it's illegal, the other saying it's not.
What happens?
Is the guy just going to sit back and guess my unborn child dies in violation of the law or are people going to fight?
danny farrar
You know, there's actually, I forget who it is, if you haven't seen it, there's actually, I think they did it at the Army War College.
They did a scenario of what would happen if America fought against itself and how the states would go.
Texas won in their deal.
But for me, it's like with everybody shifting, Do you, to wherever they're going, like blues moving to red, does it ever just get to a point where it's like, okay, well, I don't really care that much because you're not overtly affecting Texas.
You know what I'm saying?
Like you go to where you want to live, essentially.
tim pool
Federalism.
danny farrar
Right?
And now we're not, we're not, it doesn't really bother me.
What happened in Maryland doesn't bother me because I'm in Texas or vice versa.
Do you think that's a stopping point before it, and keeps that from happening?
Or do you think that exacerbates it?
tim pool
I think it might.
Be better in the long run.
Federalism.
And we talked about this when we had the progressive fellow around talking about abortion, and I was like, I don't know, maybe it's better that we do overturn Roe v. Wade so that the states who want to live the way they want to live can, and the other states can have their abortion, and Texas can ban it.
But I just don't think the ideology stops there.
I don't think someone who truly believes abortion is murder can sit back and let people murder babies.
And I don't think the left has a strong moral position on abortion at all.
They're just tribally for it.
So that's why I don't see the left as like possibly going to invade Texas to make abortion happen.
They might secretly do it.
Maybe there's money involved.
But I do see it as Texas or some other state that bans abortion as being willing to send people or even unofficially to stop abortion, right?
To take a look at the First Civil War, John Brown just took it amongst himself.
What were the factions?
There was one country.
John Brown went and started shooting slave owners in the face.
It didn't matter that there was not an organized faction.
It happened when the fighting broke out, then organized factions emerged.
So maybe that happens.
Maybe you get, you're going to see Texas and they're going to be like, here's our annual report, 3,786 unborn children were aborted in a neighboring state.
And they're going to be like, okay, this has to stop because we are morally opposed to abortion.
And the other state says, we're allowed to do it and you can't do anything about it.
How long until a new John Brown emerges?
We've already had violence at abortion clinics and vice versa with the left firebombing pregnancy centers.
But how long now with the current situation until you get a John Brown and a bleeding Kansas where he goes into Colorado and just starts getting violent or something?
ian crossland
I think the big difference between abortion and slavery, they're similar, but is that slavery is in plain sight, but abortion is like out of sight, out of mind.
Because I hear when you see the ultrasound, women, they become way less likely to want to kill the thing.
I know it sounds crass, but just get past that part.
And so you just don't see it.
And it's like, if you don't see the sewage, the sewage isn't that big of a problem.
Slavery, man, that drove people insane.
People went nuts over that.
And I would now, too.
I don't like it.
danny farrar
It's also the issue, though, where I can see what you're saying happens is the fact that AOC, it's legal where she is, right?
And who she represents.
tim pool
Yep.
danny farrar
But then she's still going out there and making this plea for the case for it to affect states that are outside of her jurisdiction.
And I mean, now that you break it down that way, that's an explanation for like, OK, this is why it's crossing the line, because you're trying to make it happen at a federal level, what we can do at a state level.
tim pool
Let me ask you, Ian, how do you feel about abortion?
What's your thoughts on it?
ian crossland
I don't like it, man.
I don't like it at all.
tim pool
But do you think it should be legal?
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
So, I'll present it to you this way.
When slavery was happening, I'm sure a lot of people said exactly what you said.
I don't like it.
But, you know, it's legal in those states.
unidentified
Yeah, good point.
tim pool
And then what happens after the war?
After the war, they're like, you supported them!
You were defending them!
You weren't speaking out.
History is written by the victors.
And that's why the left likes to say, you're on the wrong side of history.
Because they firmly believe that when the fighting's done or whatever, they'll be the victors.
I don't agree with that at all.
History has a tendency towards the expansion of personhood rights.
So I don't understand why this would be the anomaly here, in terms of... Well, this one time we've decided these unique individuals with DNA are not to be granted personhood rights.
Circumstances are different.
You know, with slavery, a person, like a human being living and walking, With abortion, they're still dependent to a certain degree on the mother's body, but that's where viability comes in.
If the baby is viable outside the womb, this is the big question.
Someone in Texas, a woman, can take a viable child.
Let's say the scenario.
The man and the woman, they hook up, they're together.
At 8 months, the woman says, I don't want to be with this guy.
If I have this kid, I'm trapped.
I'm going to go get an abortion.
The guy says, you don't need to kill it.
We can do induced labor or C-section right now.
The baby is viable and healthy and doesn't need your body to live.
And she goes, don't care, I'm gonna kill it.
That's where the moral line is drawn.
Not in like the first week where she realizes she's pregnant and it's a zygote or whatever and it's not viable.
We're talking about a woman who could say, I could have this baby delivered, but then I'd be responsible for it.
So I'd rather flee to Colorado to kill it.
Now you're in crazy territory.
danny farrar
See, my problem with everything has also always been the hypocrisy of it.
Meaning that if somebody were to murder a pregnant woman, they're getting charged with two counts of murder.
For me, I'm like, I just want everything to be equal, right?
Like, well, if what the rule is, the rule is the rule.
So if it's if it's two murder, if I kill a pregnant woman, then we have then we're saying that the baby is alive.
You can't now turn around.
You're going to put that man or that person in prison for the rest of their life based on two counts of murder.
tim pool
That was California, right?
Was that Peterson?
danny farrar
Yeah, but then you turn around and then when it's abortion, well, it's not a life.
So, how can you do that?
That's the part that is always, it's always like not set well with me.
tim pool
That's why I think the, let's just call it the pro-abortion post-viability side.
The pro-abortion side.
I think they're gonna lose.
I think it is a fair assessment to say, based on where history, where we've come from and where we're going, that Fifty years from now, people will look back on abortion the way they looked at slavery.
danny farrar
But you know what my issue is?
I'm actually curious what you think on this.
This is the problem that I had with the overturning of it.
That branch is supposed to be independent of political party.
Right, but it absolutely is 100 percent. You guys talked about this before like we want to now stack
The they want to stack it because they can't get their policies through
It's still frightening to me that based on who you put In those chairs, we can have a complete 180
of an interpretation of the foundational law of the land Simply based on the partisan views of the person that's
supposed to be in the judge No, no, no, no.
tim pool
That's you agreeing with the Supreme Court.
The Supreme Court, Clarence Thomas particularly wrote, they keep doing this thing called, was it substantive due process or something like that?
This idea that there are some things that are just so egregious or whatever that no amount of due process would be adequate to deal with the situation.
That is to say, they're like, The courts should not be allowed to deny this to a person because they're a person and it's like, what the Supreme Court is saying now is, Congress, codify it.
The Supreme Court does not decide this.
So, from your perspective, and I agree with what you're saying, the Supreme Court should have never decided to legislate from the bench.
danny farrar
Correct.
tim pool
Here's the challenge though.
The country's too divided to actually move forward on a lot of issues.
Now, they just recently, in the House, codified gay marriage.
And it's very likely the Senate will support it.
Excellent.
I don't know if they've ever done that with interracial marriage either, though.
But there's a bunch of issues the Supreme Court effectively forces through without the will of the people, without the electorate, which is kind of crazy when you think about it.
The Supreme Court today said, we don't have the authority to do that.
Clarence Thomas went on to say, we should revisit these other cases to also correct these errors.
danny farrar
And so what he was essentially saying there was that we should put this back to the legislator to make the decision on it.
We don't have the authority or capacity to actually rule on it.
hannah claire brimelow
But how people reacted was he's trying to end integration of marriage.
danny farrar
Well, I mean, the truth of the matter is no one's, I mean, in my case, no one explained it like that.
tim pool
Yeah.
danny farrar
You know, and that's what we talked about earlier is like everything's a two second sound bite.
So you don't ever actually get any context behind anything anymore, which is why it's also so damn easy to get everybody riled up and angry about what's going on.
ian crossland
I'd love to know how many people think that the Supreme Court just made abortion illegal.
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
danny farrar
An insane amount.
ian crossland
That's wild.
danny farrar
An insane amount.
hannah claire brimelow
Well, and then I would have people say to me, like, well, when you, like, this means that women who have a stillborn baby aren't going to be able to get treated because it's not considered an abortion when you have a stillborn baby and you're too far along and the baby is surgically removed from the body.
Like, that's tragic.
That's sad.
But like, it's not actually an abortion.
And no one thought it was an abortion until we suddenly decided that the Supreme Court had taken abortion away from everyone.
I think there was a such an intense panic I mean I really want to know how much Planned Parenthood fundraised in the last month because everyone panicked and was like we have to figure out how to protect this right which like I just think that So much got lost in translation and if you really believe that abortion is, you know, a right that you need to have, I respect that.
Like, I don't have to agree with you, but I think so many outlets and so many people did a disservice to everyone around them by just panicking and encouraging people to panic and Well, they use the most extreme... and listen, both sides are guilty of this.
danny farrar
They use the most extreme case of whatever it is to justify whatever point it is that they're trying to make, right?
For example, when the people that were very pro-abortion are like, they're going to make your raped daughter give birth.
Right?
And I got two, I'm a girl dad, I got two daughters, and that touches a nerve, you know what I'm saying?
But that's what we lead with when the reality is that's a very small exception to the rule.
And in my knowledge of, I wouldn't go put my hand on the Bible on this, but in my knowledge, in most cases, in most states, Even when it's banned, that's permitted.
Like, this happened, like, no, you don't have to do it.
So people make that because they get everybody riled up over it, and it's just super, super easy, and nobody ever steps back and goes, okay, well, what is the actual reality of this?
How often does it happen?
What are the circumstances for it to happen?
But you have to pick a side.
You know?
And that's what makes it so bad.
You can't be like, listen, I don't necessarily support it.
I'm kind of in the same, because you and then Tim made me feel bad because he equated it to slavery and now I feel dirty.
But, you know, I'm the same with you.
Like, do I like it?
No.
Am I for it?
No.
But at the same time, like, I don't know if I have any ability to look at you and tell
you what you have to do.
tim pool
Well, let me, you know, I was just thinking of something.
Slavery is wrong.
However, parents have legal control over people under a certain age.
Certainly it's not slavery, but they can tell the kids you're going to military school, they can tell the kid you gotta mow the lawn, and the parents have a right to tell the kid where they live what they do until they're of the age of majority.
And so I was thinking about that because it's interesting.
With abortion, There's also a problem, and it's when the life becomes viable.
When a child becomes an adult, they are a legal entity unto themselves, and they are immediately severed and free to live their lives as they see fit.
Children that want to do that earlier can file for emancipation.
they can be emancipated. Yeah. Funny choice of words, right?
I think it's interesting that there is an age restriction on when someone can actually
dictate your life to a certain degree, they can't beat you and things like that. And then there's
abortion where I'm actually more of the traditional pro choice where it's like, pre viability, I
totally understand what the Roe decision was trying to say, in terms of the privacy of the
individual, but also, you know, where the government can step in for medical procedures.
The problem I have with it is it's all elective abortion, like 93%.
It's all, it's just using it as contraception and just, I don't know, debauchery and things like that.
But I still fall on a more libertarian side of like, I don't know how the government should be stepping in, but you get to the point of viability.
Now the baby can survive on its own.
Now you should not kill it because you can just let it live.
It can be removed.
danny farrar
I think, I think 99.9% of Americans are with you on that.
You know what I'm saying?
But I think a lot of times people, well, I think people don't think that, I don't think people think that that's what happens.
At least in the conversations that I've had with people, and I think I have a mixed bag of friends, those that are for it and those that aren't, a lot of folks are like, but that doesn't ever happen.
And I don't know enough about it to know whether it does or not.
But you know, those are the people that are anti-abortion.
Those are the videos that they show, right?
The cartoon animation where you're going in with the forceps and you're literally ripping the child apart and pulling him out.
tim pool
Everyone shows you the most extreme.
danny farrar
Yeah.
And so for me, when I when I look at it, it comes to think at the end of the day, the way I feel personally is like.
It's all about responsibility, right?
Like no one told you that you had to have sex, right?
And then there were all these other options that you could have done through it.
So for me personally, if it was just my body and I was a woman, it's like, yo, like if I'm going to have a kid, then I'm going to have it.
Where my issue comes in is with hypocrisy.
As a man, I got no say in nothing, but I'm absolutely on the hook for any of the financial responsibility.
You talking about it from a standpoint of the child's viable.
The man has no say in it at all, period.
Like, I can't say I want to have a child, right?
Somehow I'm involved in this process, but somehow I'm absolutely not in control of this process at all, but I'm 100% responsible for the outcome of the process is done.
And people will always use like deadbeat dads.
I'm like, that's, that's the same thing like gun laws.
Like there's laws for you to not buy guns illegally.
People do it like, but at the end of the day, if you go to court, like I got a buddy in Texas and Texas will literally not give you, will not give you 50 50 split.
The mother gets 51% custody.
So on the days that there's extra days, she always gets the child.
unidentified
Wow.
danny farrar
But he still has a hundred percent child support.
tim pool
Yep.
danny farrar
And she has a job.
So that's always been my thing.
tim pool
Like, I'm broken.
danny farrar
I'm cool with the fact that the dude has no choice, no say in the matter.
But what I also would like to see happen is if the dude says, yo, cool, not my body, not my choice.
I don't want the kid.
I am under no obligation to take care of the kid.
The man should have that same right to, in my opinion.
Let's keep it fair.
tim pool
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We're expanding it.
It's still gonna be, there's still gonna be real behind-the-scenes elements to the show, but we're expanding the comedy and the humor because we wanted to do a comedy and humor show.
And I gotta be completely honest, the vlog just was not really working.
So we were like, let's make it something.
Let's transform it.
So that's what we're doing.
Ian's been absolutely slaying on it.
ian crossland
Yeah, I'm giving it a little boost of nitro.
tim pool
The only one with any acting skills in the house, so it's working out fairly well.
ian crossland
It's really fun.
We shot some scenes today.
It was great to be back on set.
tim pool
Yep, yep.
And then we have Tales from the Inverted World, so check that out.
At 11 p.m., we're gonna have the members-only show, After Dark, uncensored.
Maybe you'll get a little heated, but let's read some superchats.
Ian Hall says, brain cancer or being a lefty?
Same difference.
Yikes.
Kyle says, all my guns are transmuskets.
Transmuskets are muskets.
Okay, I'll have to remember that.
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Imagine my surprise, ya buncha wrong thinkers, lol.
Yeah, smash the, um, bell icon, I guess.
I don't know, I don't know if that matters.
Alright, Raymond G. Maga Stanley Jr.
says, thanks guys, I was late for work today, couldn't leave my car.
I had to finish last night's IRL uncensored.
Substantive, inspiring, with a pinch of spice.
Indeed it was.
A hefty show.
A lot of people responding to last night's episode.
Ian, I apologize for being heated.
ian crossland
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing, man.
I thought it was a good conversation.
I thought so too.
Sometimes I get, I feel like my ego is bruised.
I get upset, but I still love you and we need to keep doing this and things like this.
tim pool
Yeah, I feel like some people might think, like, you know, I don't know.
I actually thought the good, like, the heat element was, like, was good.
I thought it was, like, getting that stuff out and having those conversations.
ian crossland
It's like we're 15 at Taco Bell again, just talking about magic cards in the universe.
tim pool
But I'll say that, then, you know, a lot of people are mentioning last night's episode.
It went long.
It was, like, an hour.
And then I just went off this, I went on this, like, rant about morality and stuff.
And then Ian challenged some of my positions.
He made good points.
And a lot of people were, like, actually, it was really good.
So you should check it out.
But we're gonna have one tonight, and it should be a lot of fun.
hannah claire brimelow
I think people like hearing, like, when people are passionate about stuff, because so often people are guarded in what they're saying.
It's better that you guys yell at each other.
tim pool
I thought it was good.
Yeah.
Here we go.
Ehaf says, Tim, you should apologize to Ian for calling him stupid in the member section last night.
I do apologize for that.
You looked and sounded like a bully.
Ian, you good man.
Your hearts are in the right place and you have more patience and empathy than me.
ian crossland
Don't take anything personally.
That's one of the four agreements.
tim pool
Ah, you know, look, I get mad sometimes, and anybody who watches a show long enough sees, like, one in every 50 episodes where I lose it.
ian crossland
Oh, when I knew you before we were friends, I was like, oh, I'm gonna go get heated with that guy.
Like, I wanted to have a conversation with you, like, just let it fly, man.
If you gotta be, you know, around people you can trust, that you can let it out with.
tim pool
Yeah, you know, sometimes people get mad.
Especially when we're talking about such important issues and stuff that we really care about.
ian crossland
Oh my gosh, we're crafting reality.
tim pool
Yeah, you know, you know.
All right.
Kyle Army says, Hartford Whalers!
hannah claire brimelow
Oh my gosh, you recognize my shirt?
Guys, it is the best hockey team of all time.
It no longer exists, the Carolina Hurricanes.
But yeah, this is my tribute to Connecticut, where I grew up.
Yeah.
I hope all of you had no idea.
unidentified
None!
ian crossland
Looks like the Autobot Transformer insignia.
lydia smith
I love it.
hannah claire brimelow
Oh, I don't know what that is.
tim pool
Bobcat says, Tim, why don't you have any shows about West Virginia cryptids?
You're in West Virginia, you could invite the Flatwoods Monster on the show if you wanted.
Just offer him some Criggler coffee, he'll show.
We do have a plan for that.
I don't want to say too much, but Tales from the Inverted World.
Shane Cashman and the crew, Jessica, Alex, everybody's working on this.
They went totally overboard.
Carter making the intro song.
I was like thinking we were going to do this show with 10 minute YouTube videos, and then they were like, actually we made hour long episodes.
It's 10 episodes that are hour long, and I'm like...
Wow.
It's visuals.
It's audiovisual with sound effects, as Shane tells the story of looking for the lost Confederate gold.
We have several ideas of the next story arcs, which I won't say too much, but cryptids may be involved.
Mobsters.
Speakeasies.
We have a whole bunch of stuff that we're planning for Tales from the Inverted World, and we're going to keep making it.
And you know what I'm realizing, too, is the amount of money that it costs to make these shows, it's a lot.
But you don't need that many people to subscribe to the show.
And so that's what I'm thinking with TimCast.com.
We have to stop trying to play this business where it's like, imagine I started a bakery and I gave away all the cakes for free, but I just crossed my fingers that somebody would buy the rights to put their name on the cake.
And then it's like, well, it cost me a million dollars to make the cakes, but I made a million and thousand because someone paid for the rights to have their name on the cakes.
It's like a ridiculous business model, to be honest.
Maybe something small scale.
Why don't we make shows and then just be like, here's a preview.
If you want to watch it, watch it.
And then we get a certain amount of people.
We can support the show forever.
All right.
Let's, uh, let's grab some more superchats.
Blueheart says Biden cured cancer.
Cancer attacking itself.
unidentified
Who'd have thought?
tim pool
Donald Schoolcraft says, Danny, retired targeting officer here.
Thank you for keeping up the good fight and getting out.
Love what you do, brother.
danny farrar
Ah, thank you much.
tim pool
Right on.
Random Eskimo says, this follows with my 2024 election theory.
Biden says he's going to run.
He bravely fights for re-election, and two to three months before election, he sadly is removed and replaced by not Kamala, and they push sympathy vote.
Maybe.
Yeah.
Maybe, maybe, maybe.
Trident54 says, Tim, allow me to strongly suggest your first Sunday debate.
Mike Glover from Fieldcraft Survival Channel versus B Tatum.
Subject, Yuvaldi police criticism versus a pro-Yuvaldi police department position.
Brandon said today he would be open to a discussion.
Long live Chicken Ian.
That would be absolutely amazing.
I really want to do this Sunday debate show.
I think that would be absolutely incredible.
Bring in a couple different people to just talk about an idea and hash it out.
And then smack the mic, maybe.
lydia smith
Yeah, there you go.
That'd be great.
Let's do it.
tim pool
All right.
ColtM4A1 says, get Chris Hansen on the show to talk about groomers and predators.
lydia smith
Oh, yeah.
Billboard Chris.
I'd love to.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Rainy Videos has a question for Ian.
If Ian believes abortion is not murder in Colorado, then did the Nazis murder six million people?
The Nazis didn't think it was murder, and the principle of the argument is the same.
ian crossland
That's a good question, because they did not consider it murder.
So to a Nazi, the answer would be no, but to the outside person looking at it, well, technically it's still no.
You can argue that it ethically should be treated like murder, and then after the fact, they're like, hey, now that we're in charge, it was murder.
This is where I think viability plays the biggest role.
If the baby can survive, there's no reason to kill it.
by the way all those abortions last year they were murders and now you're all
going to jail we gotta be careful we gotta be careful that we don't I mean
tim pool
persecute our own citizens for this is where I think the viability plays the
biggest role if the baby can survive there's no reason to kill it if the baby
is able to live there's no reason to kill it so you hear these stories from
women where they're like the baby was you know unable to survive on its own
but it was alive so they wouldn't remove it And it's like, I think there's a circumstance where if there is a baby that has no heart or something, that's not viable.
Like that baby is not going to be born and live.
Then I think, I feel like these are fake arguments meant to find an extreme to justify terminating healthy babies.
hannah claire brimelow
Sometimes I wonder what would happen if you told women like if you carry the pregnancy that you like if you don't want to be a mom but you're pregnant and you carry the pregnancy to viability we'll pay for an abortion you don't have to go through natural childbirth because I think people who don't want to take responsibility also don't want to have to go through labor like you mentioned that you have two daughters I don't have any kids but like That seems very painful.
And I assume that if you already don't want to raise a kid, you don't want to have to produce one either.
It's still a major surgery, but if you told them, look, you could just skip birth, like enough of them would opt into doing it.
tim pool
Seriously?
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
tim pool
All right.
You Know Who says, Tim Kest just lost half of its paying female subscribers when Ian casually let it slip that he has a girlfriend.
Unsubscribed.
ian crossland
They'll be back.
tim pool
I actually, I'm really excited for Cast Castle because I saw what they were working on today.
And I will say this fully candidly.
The first part was a little drawn out and rough, and I was like, okay, I gotta give you some notes on this.
But then the plot lines, the next two, were just masterfully done.
Like, it's rough.
You know, look, we're not a big production studio.
We've got a couple camera guys and some comedians, and we're making something work.
But it was good.
ian crossland
Cara's great.
Cara's my girlfriend.
She's a natural.
tim pool
She nailed it.
It was funny.
It was really good.
ian crossland
Thanks, Cara.
You're great.
unidentified
Love you.
tim pool
And then you, you playing the guitar outside.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
So for those that haven't seen it on the vlog, we did this a bit, or Ian did this bit where he's Langston, you know, what is it?
ian crossland
Langston Stewart?
Langston Stewart Jr.
III.
tim pool
And it's like, Ian's a character, so he thinks rocks don't have magic.
ian crossland
But we all know they do.
hannah claire brimelow
That's because you're in character right now, right?
ian crossland
Yeah, yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
Okay.
ian crossland
I'm still in character.
hannah claire brimelow
It's going to be hard to come to the office.
I'm going to get so confused.
danny farrar
Be a method actor.
hannah claire brimelow
Yeah.
tim pool
Murph Tries says, this will be my last Super Chat for IRL because I will be upping my Timcast monthly support.
Another $10.
Wow.
I'd rather give you and Dan a majority of my money than have YouTube take most of it from you.
Keep up the fight.
I really do appreciate it.
I'm stoked.
Yeah, Dan Bongino was co-founder of Parallel Economy.
ian crossland
Yeah, I have the name.
Let me see if I can pull up the name of the other guy.
He co-founded with Jeffrey Wernick.
Uh, is an angel investor.
tim pool
Glad he did.
And I love the fact that he had more subs on Rumble.
And then YouTube was like, we're banning you, Dan Bongino.
He's like, I don't care.
I got more subs over here.
Why would I, why do I care?
I'm like, that's amazing.
So, um, let me just stress.
There are many, many more architectural and structural and infrastructure changes that are coming.
And I'm very excited to announce them when we can, but we've got to build them.
So right now, when you sign up at TimCast.com, no more PayPal.
Parallel Economy.
A Dan Bongino company.
Proud to say.
All right.
Let's grab some super duper chats.
We got more people saying we got, oh man, Charlie Wilson.
I think the Hartford Whalers are now the most, most repped NHL team on Timcast.
Thanks, Hannah.
Go, go Canes.
lydia smith
Yeah.
hannah claire brimelow
Look guys, I, there are no professional sports teams in Connecticut and their, their logo is cool.
It was designed by an architect.
Like, I don't think they were particularly successful team, but I love them nonetheless.
And if anyone wants to bring them back, I would be all for it.
lydia smith
A lot of heart.
tim pool
Pine Tree Squad says, Tim, Congress is attempting to pass H.R.
1808.
The assault weapons ban would be an outright ban on some of the country's most, uh, country's pistols, shotguns, and rifles.
This tyranny must be stopped.
I did a segment on this.
It's a, it's a, it's a near, uh, outright total ban.
It would ban, like, the majority of wooden stock hunting rifles.
Like, and I say that somewhat facetiously, like, the left is always like, you don't need a weapon of war, and they show, like, a Ruger 10-22 with a pistol grip, and they're like, you need a hunting rifle, and they show a Ruger 10-22 with a rifle grip, and I'm like, you have no idea what you're talking about.
But, if the magazine is over 10 rounds, and it has, like, a foregrip or a telescoping stock, it's an assault weapon.
It's like, what?
That's, like, everything.
It's nonsense.
hannah claire brimelow
When did you get interested in guns, Tim?
tim pool
I don't know, 2019 when someone tried breaking into my house.
danny farrar
I thought it was when you got the musket in the back.
That's a good time to have got excited about it.
tim pool
Well, cops told me to buy a shotgun.
Because a guy tried breaking in.
danny farrar
I think the FBI actually said that the AR is the best home defense weapon.
Is it though?
I'm almost positive that they put out a report that they said that the AR is the best home defense weapon.
tim pool
Wouldn't you want like an AR style pistol with 9mm frangible hollow point or something like that?
danny farrar
Yeah.
I mean at the end of the day I'm not a gun bunny.
I have the pistol by my bed.
That's what I have.
I also think that a lot of people grossly underestimate, if I'm just being transparent, their ability to actually shoot somebody.
The first time I put crosshairs on another human, that's an unnerving feeling.
tim pool
Well, you know the story from Vietnam.
danny farrar
The soldiers... 50% of people didn't take the shot.
tim pool
They were firing above the person.
They didn't want to kill him.
danny farrar
Do you know the psychology behind what they actually did here?
tim pool
What is it?
danny farrar
So, back in World War II, I think it was something... I'm going to butcher this a little bit, but you can look it up for the actual stats.
I think it was something like 75% of soldiers in World War II did not take a shot on target of first opportunity.
And what they were doing, they were training them on the bullseyes, right?
So just a pull circle like everybody's seen for a bullseye.
The way they started working around that was by the time Vietnam came around, they started using the pop-up silhouettes.
And so when you're, when you're, when you have to qualify to, with your weapon, you have like two seconds to engage the pop-up silhouette.
So you just get used to seeing a head and shoulders pop up and then you instantly engage.
And then I think by the time they said Vietnam that the, so that at rate had went up to like Wow.
ian crossland
Now we've got games like America's Army, like first-person shooters that are training people just to be able to do that, I think.
It's like evolving.
Apparently, it's like as few as 15% fired their weapon at the enemy.
I'm just looking at random search results, and they're saying 75% is a conservative estimate.
unidentified
He is our nation's oldest president of all time.
tim pool
Biden slipped the cancer line in as a cry for help. He's hoping public would catch on,
demand he be removed, then he can finally ride off in peace.
unidentified
He just wants to sit in the sun, take a nap. He is our nation's oldest president of all time.
hannah claire brimelow
Why don't we let this guy retire?
tim pool
He wants to run again.
hannah claire brimelow
I don't think he wants to run again.
danny farrar
I just think... I love when people complain about it's the old white men that ruin everything and then you literally elected the oldest white man in country's history.
ian crossland
Cheese Loaf says... Oh, just to clarify on your statement about soldiers not taking the shot, it comes from a book, S.L.A.
Marshall's controversial book, Men Against Fire, The Problem of Battle Command.
And they don't know if it's real.
No, it's not 100% confirmed, of course, but it comes from that book.
tim pool
Hmm.
danny farrar
All right.
tim pool
Cheese Loaf says, Tim, please tell me that you are still doing What is an Assault Weapon?
This is a moral imperative.
Yes!
But it's very difficult because we need people.
Now, we are having a meeting, I think, in the next week or so about documentary production stuff, so we will get to that.
And, um, I mean it might take a year or so.
Hopefully it doesn't.
But the, uh, the idea is to do, you know, it's like, The start of gun control, what we're currently seeing with gun control, is it working, is it failing?
And then the end is like potential real solutions to the problem.
I think everybody agrees gun violence is bad.
You don't want people going around shooting each other.
So it'd be interesting to hear from experts, you know, what is your solution then if not gun control?
And then we would actually try and, you know, address that stuff.
So yeah, let's read some more.
Chris says Tulsi Gabbard literally endorsed Biden.
Yup!
Yeah, she was also against nuclear power and guns.
Ain't perfect.
But I thought she was principled and willing to have a conversation, and we desperately needed that.
So, take what you can get, man.
But yeah, I'm very critical of her endorsement of Biden.
Seth Houser says, Tim, Harris has a nervous tick, a laughing one.
I would hate for her to laugh at a different country when in a serious discussion and start a war or wars with them.
Still do not want Pelosi either.
Here, here.
Eraftus of Stett says, I appreciate the Hartford Whalers tee.
Great guests.
You planned wearing that, didn't you?
hannah claire brimelow
No, because you asked me 20 minutes before the show.
unidentified
I wanted to come on.
tim pool
20 minutes before the show.
hannah claire brimelow
He's like, you're still working?
danny farrar
How did they ever go out of business with all these fans?
hannah claire brimelow
The thing is, we're like a cultural institution, but we weren't all in the same generation.
I wear the shirt in airports and people stop me pretty regularly.
You can get them at the Bradley International Airport.
Actually, if I'm on again, I'll wear my full-on Hartford Whalers jersey.
You know, I think part of it is states that have a strong identity get behind their sports teams or whatever.
Connecticut doesn't have.
I mean, it's like part of New England.
It's thinking it's part of New York.
Like, the Whalers are a unifying force.
danny farrar
Alright.
tim pool
Morgan H says my conspiracy theory has been Harris steps down after the midterms.
Biden nominates a new VP then resigns shortly after so Dems still incumbent, i.e.
Gerald Ford.
Is that what they did with him?
ian crossland
When Nixon resigned.
Oh, I don't know.
That's interesting.
tim pool
Was Ford the VP for Nixon before?
No, it was Agnew, wasn't it?
Oh, it was Agnew.
ian crossland
Spiro T. Agnew.
unidentified
Great name.
tim pool
I don't know how that worked out.
I was not old enough.
I did not exist back then.
The matter that makes up my body was but a humble banana.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Ben Hickson says, Ian, we love you, but you live in a world of principles while they play a game of power.
Please watch Matt Colville video called Diplomacy.
He's a DM talking about politics in Dungeons and Dragons.
Tim, watch his video called Politics of War about World War I and Thucydides.
Ooh, very interesting.
ian crossland
That's cool.
tim pool
That's a good idea.
ian crossland
You know, I also do believe in the whole, when, if your enemy thinks you're weak, you're strong.
Like, so I, I do play kind of ignorant and dumb a little bit because you can't do everything on the surface in reality.
But I thank you for the statement.
tim pool
It's Langston... Stewart... Junior III.
ian crossland
Get it straight.
tim pool
Ian's not a real person.
There's no Ian Crossland.
There's never been an Ian Crossland.
ian crossland
An actor playing an actor.
tim pool
An actor playing an actor.
That's the best way to confuse people.
hannah claire brimelow
That's just how good Ian is.
He can play so many roles at once and comment on them.
ian crossland
The multiverse.
unidentified
Stop.
tim pool
Sam says, the Democrat perspective and worldview never changed.
Always elitists.
They just made the ruthlessly pragmatic decision to be nicer and caring for the lesser people, like the poor and non-white.
They treat us... They treat us, them, like pets.
No, I disagree.
They're not trying to be nicer to people.
The policies they enact hurt people substantially.
Joe Biden is destroying, is cranking up the price of gas, personally, going to the gas stations and adding the numbers.
I'm kidding.
But Joe Biden is enacting policies that have hurt the price of gas.
Joe Biden allowed for U.S.
strategic oil to be sold off to China, of all places, and they call me crazy for pointing out, which is a fact.
So he didn't care about you.
He cares about his agenda.
The Democrats have always been the elites.
We are better than you and we're more deserving than you.
I don't think that's ever changed.
I think they just try to figure out how to manipulate to gain power because they realized they were losing.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Damon Kelly says, what's up with the Hartford failures t-shirt?
unidentified
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Let's calm down.
danny farrar
You gotta get one negative comment.
tim pool
Gotta get it in.
Kevin Brady says, former Tulsi donor here, but I've gone libertarian.
Does it not weird anyone else, uh, weird out anyone else that Tulsi has essentially flipped in many aspects and is also on the World Economic Forum website?
I can't trust politicians.
My understanding of the World Economic Forum website, which includes her and Crenshaw, is that it's an editorial they have nothing to do with.
Like, how lame would that be?
If you're just, like, minding your own business, and then, like, Media Matters writes a big story about how you're the best, and how you're one of their thought leaders, and you're like, I do not work for these people.
You know what?
We should do that.
hannah claire brimelow
Okay, who are we endorsing?
I'll write it tomorrow.
tim pool
Just like people, people on the left will endorse, be like, Tim cast thought leader and we'll like, yeah, like, maybe too a little overt.
But then they'll be like, you know, we'll put Vosh in there and people will be like, why are you on Tim Poole's website?
And he'll be like, I don't know.
They'll be like, liar!
unidentified
I have nothing to do with this.
Oh my gosh.
hannah claire brimelow
You're our thought leader.
We can't help it.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And then we'll, like, I'll send him a present, but I won't tell him who it's from, and then he'll show it on stream, and then we'll include that.
hannah claire brimelow
Can we send him, like, a plaque being like, you're an official Timcast Thought Leader?
tim pool
It's like the World Economic Forum framing people, almost.
Gotta be honest, though, I'm not a big fan of Dan Crenshaw, so.
We've invited him on the show several times, he's agreed, and then cancelled, and then agreed, and then cancelled again.
Don't think he really wants to come on.
There's a big ant running around over there, what's he doing?
danny farrar
He's going for those jagged, unsweetened sour patches.
ian crossland
That's probably what he's doing.
Oh, there's sugar on the table, that's it.
He's the scout!
danny farrar
It's an assault van!
ian crossland
He's gonna report to the Hive that there was sugar here, we gotta clean it up.
tim pool
Somebody spilled the Sour Patch Kids.
unidentified
They leave a trail, like a chemical trail, wherever they go.
tim pool
Nasty little things, dude.
hannah claire brimelow
We've literally been bugged.
I know, literally.
tim pool
KSums8404 says, I start to enjoy Ian when I see him cry on the show when he starts to believe there is a god, but then last night's Members Only gets me annoyed with him.
I wanted to read that because I do want to mention that you are, like, getting very emotional over your godly revelation.
ian crossland
Jordan Peterson, definitely.
Him, when he cries, when he talks about what he believes and people coming up to him, it's very inspiring.
tim pool
It's one of the most... It's funny how they make fun of him for it.
danny farrar
I don't know why people... I would never understand why folks turn on that dude.
I'm a huge fan of that guy.
tim pool
He's great!
ian crossland
He opened the floodgates so that I can express myself.
tim pool
It was that line he made about forcing women to carry babies for incels, I think.
You know, that really... I'm just kidding, he never said that.
They claimed he did, it was funny, because he talked about enforced monogamy, which is a phrase that references cultural monogamy, like people choosing to get married.
And then they made it seem like he was arguing that Women should be held at gunpoint like a handmaid's tale or something.
I don't know, but you know, if you don't know what you're talking about, you should probably Google it.
Andy Welsh says, regarding Hunter filming his escapades, Conjure is one of my favorite lines from the big short.
They're not confessing, they're bragging.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Mad Mallard says, please look into former Chinese generals buying tens of thousands of acres of property near sensitive military and commercial sites in the middle of the country, particularly next to Fort Hood and Fort Still.
Yeah, I heard about that.
Like, what?
lydia smith
That's sus.
tim pool
Yeah.
lydia smith
Don't like that.
tim pool
You know how easy it is to become an American citizen if you're rich?
Foreign citizens will start a company in the United States because you don't need to be a citizen to do so.
Then they'll hire themselves and offer themselves, you know, a visa opportunity.
They buy their way in.
Many countries actually have paid citizenship, though.
Like, you can go to a country and be like, I'd like to get a residency visa, a work visa, or citizenship, and they'll be like, put $500,000 in a bank account, we'll give you a passport.
hannah claire brimelow
New Zealand does this.
I mean, a lot of people have taken advantage of it.
ian crossland
You think there's people that are citizens of every country?
tim pool
No.
hannah claire brimelow
Some countries won't let you be citizens of other places.
Like, I have three citizenships, but Because my parents immigrated and applied out, like some countries have language requirements, you have to be born on soil, you have to have a certain amount of literal residency.
When my brother enlisted in the Marine Corps, he was an intelligence officer and to get his clearance he had to renounce his citizenships other than his American citizenship.
So there are some countries that will let you have it and some that won't.
tim pool
I know people who are American citizens and Iranian citizens, but neither recognize the other.
ian crossland
Oh, interesting.
tim pool
But it's interesting, though, because when they do, you can get drafted.
So if you're a dual citizen and the U.S.
recognizes it and your country has a draft, you're drafted.
You gotta follow the law, man.
Alright, Pet Detective says, Hey, I wanted to say I love the show and also I got to go to my first Trump rally.
He finally came to Alaska.
Isn't it hilarious?
No, I mean like literally Trump rallies are hilarious.
The man is a comedian.
I've been to so many Trump rallies when I was working.
I was covering them.
I was talking to people.
It's just a laugh riot.
He's saying he's doing like He's an entertainer.
I've seen him speak a couple times and he really can just capture people's attention.
about politics, talking about how people feel and making it funny and everyone laughs when they hear
it and he's calling people out. Funny guy. When he pointed to CNN, you are fake news and everyone's
hannah claire brimelow
like well, they love it. Absolutely. I've seen him speak a couple times and he really can just
capture people's attention. I've seen him speak even like in a serious tone and it feels very
danny farrar
accessible. I still think the wildest thing I thought he said was when he said when COVID first
popped out I was actually sitting in the base waiting on my ID and he was like, he's like,
They're asking about COVID, he's like, you're probably not going to die from it.
And I'm like, did you really?
Did you really just say that?
tim pool
He said a bunch of stuff.
He's like, one day it'll just go away.
It's like, okay.
danny farrar
I mean, he was right.
tim pool
No, it's still around.
danny farrar
Yeah, but you don't hear about it.
tim pool
Depends on what you're reading.
The people in cities are reading about it nonstop.
They won't let it go.
danny farrar
It's crazy.
Cause I know.
tim pool
It's becoming like, I guess it's becoming endemic.
unidentified
Yeah.
danny farrar
I know more people with COVID now.
I didn't get COVID for two years and I finally got it, right?
And I knew all these people had it and nobody was talking about it, like, at all.
But then when everybody was talking about it, I never knew.
I knew, I'm not saying COVID wasn't real, I believe it was real, but at the same time, it was like, I know more people now with nobody saying anything about it, with it, than back when it was like, the hype.
tim pool
Well, it's because the media is full of it.
Let's grab one more supertip.
We got Morgan H. He says, look up Gerald Ford.
Spiro Agnew stepped down and Nixon nominated Ford.
Nixon resigned.
Ford ran as an incumbent against Carter, but lost.
Interesting.
Interesting.
I love that guitar.
One more, Dayzen says, is that a classic Fender or new release tin?
Wish I could see the headstock.
That is a, what is it, Bret Mason?
I love that guitar.
It's relatively new, custom, really cool.
ian crossland
It matches your outfits.
tim pool
Look at that.
Well, I think that's why I chose I put it there for the colors and everything My favorite is the harmony silhouette.
You can't see over there that thing.
I love that bronze looking one No, not the bronze one the blue one.
ian crossland
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, that's my favorite one plus with the fender amp.
hannah claire brimelow
It's a it sounds so good we uh We're going over like this the latest song that Carter put together and I just think it's like I cannot believe how good Carter is I feel like I used to walk into a studio he like He's kind of separate from everyone because his studio's off to the side and you go in to be like, hey buddy, how are you doing?
Haven't seen you in a couple days.
And he'd be like, look at this cool thing.
tim pool
He's got like a beard and he's like drinking a Rockstar.
hannah claire brimelow
He's got like 87 Rockstars.
tim pool
I have worked for three days straight.
hannah claire brimelow
You'll be like, it's Sunday, go home.
And he'll be like, what?
I don't understand.
Listen to this song.
ian crossland
He's got his application video to Timcast.
He put it on YouTube.
It's this incredibly well edited, hilarious video, like two minutes.
Like if you want the benchmark for how to get hired by a company like Timcast, you've got to look at Carter Bank's application video on YouTube.
tim pool
And then, uh, I wrote the song on acoustic guitar, he heard it, and he transformed it, and it's just like, I can't believe how good it is.
So anyway, my friends, that will be coming out, I think the album's gonna be out like August 21st or something like that, so we'll see.
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Grassroots marketing's the most effective thing, but we've recently been doing big marketing.
We've got a big Times Square thing coming up soon, it's gonna be EPIC.
Because, you know, the time has come to build the system, to challenge the system, to change the rules, and just to assert cultural dominance.
We're going to do it.
So head over to TimCast.com.
We're going to have that uncensored After Hours show coming up at about 11 p.m.
They go live.
You won't want to miss it.
They're a lot of fun and may get heated.
You can follow me at TimCast everywhere.
You can follow the show at TimCast IRL.
You want to shout anything out?
SoldierFit.
danny farrar
Hey, by all means, anybody in the Maryland area, please come out to the grand opening of the Veterans Center on November 10th.
And listen, if you ever want to get in shape, by all means, check us out at SoldierFit.com, or you can find me on Instagram at DannySFCEO.
tim pool
Right on!
hannah claire brimelow
Hi, I'm HannahClaireB on Instagram, and you can check me out on TimCast.com.
I'm there five times a day, and I'm also on PopCultureCrisis tomorrow at 3 o'clock Eastern Time.
tim pool
YouTube.com slash pop culture crisis.
We're getting them a Times Square billboard.
Oh, we're getting Roberto jr.
One and I know announcing like I said that we're gonna put our rooster on a Times Square billboard people like that's the stupidest thing I ever heard and I wanted to say it that way because the reality is it's actually a big thing for all of the shows on the website which includes him.
He's on the website man.
He's a star.
So it's bogus.
ian crossland
Yeah, he Part of the ensemble is growing.
Hey, I'm also gonna be on Pop Culture Crisis tomorrow.
hannah claire brimelow
Oh, wait, maybe I'm not on tomorrow.
ian crossland
Maybe you're not, but maybe you are!
hannah claire brimelow
Go to Pop Culture tomorrow to find out which of us is on!
joe biden
Who will win?
ian crossland
Find out tomorrow at 3 p.m.
Pop Culture Crisis.
You guys, I am Ian Crossland.
I love you very much.
Thank you for coming, Danny.
That was really cool, man.
danny farrar
Well, thanks for having me.
We appreciate it.
ian crossland
Yeah, looking forward to hopefully seeing you.
We'll definitely see you again, man.
Great stuff.
Thanks, guys.
Bye.
lydia smith
Yeah, and speaking of pop culture crisis, that's where I was this afternoon.
It is always a great time over there.
And I was telling them, you guys, you know, politics is downstream of culture.
This is your selling point.
Have all your people go on IRL and talk about pop culture crisis.
It's great.
And I do think it is important.
If you want to know what a culture really thinks, you gotta look at their celebrities and see what they're up to in their free time.
You guys can follow me on Twitter at Minds.com, at Sarah Patchlitz, as well as SarahPatchlitz.me.
tim pool
We will see you all over at TimCast.com in about 50 or so minutes.
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