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June 28, 2022 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Timcast IRL - Ghislaine Maxwell Sentenced To 20 Years In Prison In Epstein Case w/Quite Frankly
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and the sentence is done.
Ghislaine Maxwell will be in prison for 20 years.
Apparently it's like a low security thing.
And going to prison for trafficking children to no one, apparently.
To not a single person, but apparently still trafficking them.
So you have to wonder who.
We'd love to see the list of clients, but for some reason they're not telling us.
Also, Maxwell was placed on suicide watch, sparking many memes.
So I guess we're gonna have to talk about all of that.
And we also have news pertaining to Democrats, because this is hilarious.
For the past couple of weeks, it's been reported that Democrats have been funding Trump-supporting Republican candidates in Republican primaries.
Under the idea that it's going to help them win?
I don't understand what they think.
They think, like, well, these pro-life Republicans can't possibly win a general election.
Meanwhile, people are vowing to vote against the Democrats regardless of who they're voting for because, I don't know, the economy's in shambles.
and the Democrats have embraced insane cultural issues.
Those tend to be in the polls, people saying like, hey, I don't like that. Like you look at in
Virginia with Yunkin and now you look at the five dollar gas. All they're doing is propping up Trump and
then holding January six hearings where they complain about Trump and blame the thing they're
funding for destroying this country.
It's beautiful.
And then the last, we got a bunch of other stories, but one is really, really funny.
Apparently a former White House staffer is claiming Trump lunged at the steering wheel and tried to like commandeer a vehicle through the security barrier from the back seat to the front.
It makes no sense.
The story makes no sense.
Trump came out and said it's nonsense.
And apparently we have a statement to journalists that they're corroborating Secret Service agents who said this lady at the January 6th hearing is making it up.
Can't say I'm surprised.
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Joining us today to talk about all of this is, quite frankly... Hey, Tim.
Who are ya?
frank quite frankly valbiro
I come in peace on behalf of my tribe.
And so, thank you everybody for having me here.
That's just one... Hey Tim, you know, the last time I saw you, it was the day before you went to Malmo.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
frank quite frankly valbiro
It was a while ago.
The other thing, too, is Tim went to a local diner with me after one of those shows that we were hanging out one night.
And you've become very, very famous since then.
You've become they've actually bronzed the seat that you sat in that night.
tim pool
You can't even sit in it.
frank quite frankly valbiro
Yes, I know.
It's Diana Ross and Tim Pool when it comes to Greenwich, Connecticut.
There's nobody bigger.
tim pool
Well, all right.
Well, so so what do you do?
frank quite frankly valbiro
Oh, I'm just a talk show host from New York.
Current events.
History.
Hidden history.
Actually, most hidden history is hidden these days.
You know what I mean, Ian?
ian crossland
Yeah, I don't know.
I can't tell because I can't see it, but I think you might be onto something.
frank quite frankly valbiro
Well, either way, that's what it is.
That, the human condition, we just like talking about things that make us human, and I'm so happy to be here.
It's been a wonderful day so far.
The drive was beautiful.
tim pool
A lot of trees.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, gorgeous out here.
tim pool
That's cool.
There's groundhogs and rabbits everywhere.
frank quite frankly valbiro
Reminds me of upstate New York, to be honest.
tim pool
Except we have wine berries.
There's wild Chinese raspberry everywhere.
You just like walk up the driveway and you can fill your hands with just all these berries and just eat them and be full and you're done.
Now, they're not quite in bloom yet or whatever.
Fruiting?
Whatever the word is.
But I had a couple today.
I just picked them up.
frank quite frankly valbiro
Is there like a limit before the diarrhea sets in?
It's like one of those things?
tim pool
Well, I mean, I'm pretty sure if you eat anything to excess.
frank quite frankly valbiro
Probably.
tim pool
But they're delicious and amazing.
And we made ice cream with them last year.
Yeah, Seamus.
I can see he's jealous.
seamus coughlin
I remember that.
No, I think I was here when you guys made... I remember you making something out of them.
tim pool
We want to make wine wine.
seamus coughlin
Wine wine?
tim pool
Wineberry wine.
seamus coughlin
Wineberry wine?
tim pool
Wine wine.
I don't actually think we can do it, but I don't know.
seamus coughlin
Not without a liquor license, sir.
lydia smith
That's right.
seamus coughlin
I don't know.
I'll report you.
frank quite frankly valbiro
If you're going to do that, you better stomp the berries with your bare feet like they do in the old country.
Stomp the berries.
Do it.
tim pool
Wine wine.
Seamus, who are you?
seamus coughlin
Well, that's a tough question.
It keeps me up most nights, and I'm not entirely sure, but I can tell you what I do.
I create cartoons at a YouTube channel called Freedom Tunes.
We just released one today.
I think you guys are really gonna enjoy it.
It's been a hit.
The fans are loving it.
It's how lefties debate.
It's a short 30-second one that I think will enrich your life.
We also launched a website, and on that website, We will be posting every week either a new cartoon that week that is just exclusive for patrons or like a Much extended cut of the current video like several minutes longer So go over there freedom tunes calm become a member five bucks a month help us get free from the establishment in big tech
ian crossland
Well, hello everyone, Ian Crosland here.
And I'm actually thinking about what you said, Frank, about hidden history, because when someone's telling his story, it's really not only is it about the things he tells you, but also about the things he didn't tell you.
And that's what they call reading between the lines.
tim pool
Or telling her story.
ian crossland
Are you changing language as we speak?
seamus coughlin
I just think it's concerning that it bothers you that he would say her story.
unidentified
What?
ian crossland
Do you have something against women?
No, I'm just part of the patriarchy.
Let's use Roman numerals in our constitution.
I was reading through the constitution last night and the Roman numerals were making me ill.
We gotta just change them.
How dare they?
unidentified
Arabic numerals only!
ian crossland
You know, I'll talk about this on the show.
Let me get this out of the way really quick.
You know, the White House is like those white Roman pillars.
I realized the Romans painted their white marble and the paint just wore off.
frank quite frankly valbiro
Absolutely.
ian crossland
But the Americans are like, let's do white buildings everywhere.
tim pool
We did paint those as well and the paint wore off.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
No, I'm kidding.
ian crossland
So let's paint the White House is what I'm saying.
frank quite frankly valbiro
We had to paint the White House seven times after it was burned down in the 1812 war.
tim pool
What's a good color?
lydia smith
Purple.
seamus coughlin
Well, hold on.
You guys, whoa.
You guys don't want to do pride colors?
Immediately cancel.
ian crossland
I'm open to repainting, you know, at will.
frank quite frankly valbiro
Periwinkle.
seamus coughlin
I think color the Ukraine flag.
tim pool
Do a wrap.
You know those wraps where it like, it changes color depending on how you look at it.
frank quite frankly valbiro
Holographic.
tim pool
Holographic wraps.
seamus coughlin
You know what I think we should do?
I don't know why we didn't do this after it got burnt down the first time, but like paint it into the landscape.
Camouflage.
Don't let anyone know where it is.
tim pool
Just all sky blue.
seamus coughlin
Exactly.
There you go.
lydia smith
Anyway, it's been a good conversation already.
I was going to say that most of history is hidden and I see people commenting on the news nowadays and they're like, well, if this is what they're covering up, this makes me wonder about all the rest of history.
So I think that, yeah, probably all history is to some degree very much hidden.
Anyway, I'm very excited for tonight's conversation.
Looking forward to your perspective for sure, Frank.
tim pool
Here's the big news, ladies and gentlemen!
Maxwell sentenced to 20 years in prison as Epstein case nears its end.
Maxwell, the former socialite who conspired with Epstein to exploit underage girls, was sentenced to 20 years in prison on Tuesday by a judge who said she played a pivotal role in facilitating a horrific scheme that spanned continents and years.
Maxwell 60 is the daughter of a British media magnate Robert Maxwell convicted on December 29th of trafficking and other counts after a month-long trial at which the government presented testimony and other evidence depicting Maxwell as a sophisticated predator who groomed vulnerable young women and girls as long as as long as young as 14 years old for abuse by Epstein.
Is that it?
Just Epstein, I guess.
People were flying on his plane with him and going to his island, but it was just a coincidence.
So Maxwell's client list is published.
It's Epstein.
That's it.
We're done.
Everybody can go home.
seamus coughlin
That's all it was.
tim pool
Nothing to see here.
ian crossland
I noticed this article frames it as, as it comes to an end, as the Epstein case comes to an end, we're now laying the hammer down as hard as we can on Ghislaine to show that it's definitely done.
Don't ask questions.
frank quite frankly valbiro
Well, my question is, do you think it's really her?
Do you think it's really her?
tim pool
Like, you think actually in jail?
frank quite frankly valbiro
I thought that the trial itself was such a farce that I said to myself, I wouldn't be surprised if they say, guilty!
They bring her out the back door, send her to the Bahamas, and then just send somebody to jail.
tim pool
No, like, face off!
Like, they take Ghislaine and some other woman, and then like, sedate her, and then they cut their faces off and switch them, and this other woman is like, I'm not Ghislaine, I'm innocent!
And they're like, quiet, you!
No, it's her, dude.
seamus coughlin
I mean, that's what she said in court.
She used the old face-off defense, like, come on, we've heard that too many times.
frank quite frankly valbiro
Do you know how many faces I've had?
tim pool
The old face-off defense.
She has, like, actual scars going around her face.
And they're just like, mm, looks fine.
No, look, I'd love to believe that, like, people believe that Epstein wasn't really Epstein.
And, like, there's a picture of him being taken out of the prison, and they're like, it looks slightly different!
And I'm like, yeah, he's dead.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Like his muscles have like, he probably voided his balls.
Like it was really awful stuff.
And I'm just like, you know, I'd love to believe that they smuggled these people out just because it makes you think that you're actually fighting some grand fight.
But come on, the reality is these people got busted.
The feds backed off and we're letting them do their thing.
Who knows why?
Probably blackmail or something.
And then we had a series of events.
We had reporting from Mike Cernovich.
We had reporting, I think, from the Miami Herald.
We had reporting for Project Veritas that all helped push this front and center with Maxwell and Epstein.
And they got caught.
And they got thrown to the bus.
And then Bill Gates gets asked about it.
That was funny.
It's like, well, what does it matter?
He's dead now.
It's like, yikes, dude.
You're on his plane.
ian crossland
What do you mean?
Yeah, and if they start naming names, what'll happen is they'll name one, and then that person is gonna start naming a bunch of other ones, and then another, and then the whole web starts to get exposed.
frank quite frankly valbiro
He just wasn't important enough.
I mean, I never really read into any of the, it's not really him, look at the ear, all that stuff.
He just wasn't important enough.
tim pool
Jeff!
frank quite frankly valbiro
No, yeah, he wasn't.
That's somebody that's going to get flushed at some point, especially when you're in and out of the news and you just cannot stop.
He was useful at a time, again, for somebody higher up the chain.
And there's a lot more questions about how high the chain goes.
ian crossland
You guys ready?
tim pool
This is a story actually from a couple days ago, CNN reporting.
Ghislaine Maxwell is on suicide watch, but isn't suicidal, may need to postpone sentencing.
Well, they didn't postpone sentencing, I got it out, but they are putting her on suicide watch even though she isn't.
And everybody started posting memes.
unidentified
Yeah, of course.
tim pool
Because surprise, surprise, they're like, I don't know.
It's like a weird thing to say.
They're like, she's on the watch.
ian crossland
What happened was suicide watch but not suicidal. Yes, that just mean they're afraid someone's gonna fake her suicide.
unidentified
I Don't know. That's very blatant. It's like a weird thing
tim pool
this I know They're like she's on the watch. She doesn't want to do it
seamus coughlin
Now that which is why she's on watch She's like guys.
I really don't want to commit suicide.
tim pool
Please watch me like she may be later or let's be real this may not be as an affair as it sounds it may be That there's a fear in the federal government that someone powerful is gonna try and you know flush her out that what is it shake her loose her mortal coil and so they put her on a Watch because there's no other watch that there can be hey guys Just please make sure that the guards got a full night rest at the night before this time For inmates
ian crossland
No, because no one would ever kill an inmate.
It's like unconscionable, so they don't even call it homicide watch.
tim pool
No, but you're by yourself, right?
You're in solitary.
You're in a jail cell by yourself.
There's not going to be homicide watch.
They're not going to be like, because there's no one to actually perceivably kill you.
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
So the only thing they could do to make sure you live is put you on suicide watch, even if you're not.
And then they say she's not suicidal.
They're basically saying, seen it saying, we think somebody wants to kill her.
ian crossland
Yeah, that's what it sounds like.
I mean, technically, anyone could be a victim of homicide, even if they were a prisoner, because, like, the guards could be paid off to do it.
People on the guard, you know, the prison owners could be doing it.
tim pool
What if, like, with Epstein, it was this crazy scenario?
Because, like, weren't the guards sleeping?
lydia smith
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
Guards were sleeping.
frank quite frankly valbiro
Cameras were broke.
It's just, who knows that things just happen.
tim pool
Look, I've seen X-Men where, you know, you have Mystique and she drugs that guy and she injects him full of iron and then Magneto escapes.
So, you know, I'm just saying maybe somebody drugged the guards and then had magnetic powers to disable the camera.
frank quite frankly valbiro
I remember that.
tim pool
That proves it.
seamus coughlin
I mean, it's more believable than the official explanation.
tim pool
Shockingly, yes.
frank quite frankly valbiro
That's why I don't that's why I don't look at this. I say how
how does it end with her? Because she was definitely his handler. So how does it end with her? Oh, I thought for
sure that there was a game which there was definitely a game of
chicken being played between her defense. I mean, the whole thing was weird. They brought in the CIA memory lawyers and
everything. Yeah, it is a certain type of shrink that comes in to talk about how your memory was not really what
it And then of course, after two weeks, we got four months of Johnny Depp, but after two weeks, they say, we got to get this over with.
There's another wave of COVID coming through New York.
And like you said, we don't know anything.
tim pool
You know, like, the Johnny Depp trial, while all this is still going on, it's just like, I'm imagining, you know, there's like a shocking crime to your left, and then a police van opens up and a bunch of clowns come out, and they start going like, and they're like dancing around, everyone's like, oh hey, clowns!
And they stop paying attention to the crazy crime happening to their left.
Indeed.
The bigger question here is, sure, sure, sure, we know That, you know, Ghislaine Maxwell, even though we all have our suspicions about Epstein and the media is desperately trying to be like, it's a conspiracy theory and all that, but like no sane person believes that he took his own life.
We know all this.
It should probably is gonna, something's gonna happen to her.
And then the bigger question is who, who was involved?
seamus coughlin
I think Bill Gates flew on the plane.
tim pool
I think it was Bill Gates.
We know he flew on the plane.
So until they prove otherwise, it's him.
frank quite frankly valbiro
I would ask Alex Acosta.
unidentified
Who's that?
frank quite frankly valbiro
The old Trump Labor Secretary who was actually part of this whole thing when they were wrapping up Operation Leap Year.
That actually put the full scope of what Epstein was doing in New Mexico and Florida and New York, the Caribbean, all that together.
It was Acosta when he was getting thrown out of his office in 2018 or 19 or whatever the hell it was.
He was asked by somebody in the room how to explain exactly who came to him to stop the FBI from going forward with this just a full wait coming down on Epstein.
Is it somebody coming up if it was if he was involved with intelligence and he said let's just be pretty much said let's move away from that.
tim pool
Didn't the Democrats bring on the ABC News guy who shut down the Epstein reporting to do the January 6 trial?
I believe that's correct.
Is that what it was?
Where's Luke at?
Why isn't Luke here?
We need him.
seamus coughlin
Because Luke knows what's good for him.
lydia smith
That's why he's not here right now.
frank quite frankly valbiro
Vanity Fair was part of that too.
tim pool
Seamus, you know... I gave him a stern talking to, let's just say.
Threatened to bop him.
seamus coughlin
I didn't hold on.
There's no proof of that.
There's no proof of that.
Luke and I had a conversation and we came to an understanding.
tim pool
And now he's gone.
To Florida.
frank quite frankly valbiro
I didn't know if I was going to meet Luke today.
I was like, oh, I might meet Luke.
ian crossland
Oh, you'll meet Luke.
tim pool
I think he's in New York.
seamus coughlin
He's charged a bullet.
ian crossland
Um, I think that if you look at Maria Farmer's set heels, uh, painting, she's basically illustrated all the people she remembers being involved.
And I'm not going to name names cause I don't want to get into that mess.
Messy swamp.
seamus coughlin
Cause you don't want to be on suicide watch.
ian crossland
It's anecdotal.
No one knows for sure, but I have a feeling that people like, you know, very, very high up in government, ex presidents, maybe even did things that they shouldn't have done with people that were under the age of 18.
And that's why everything's completely silent.
tim pool
They're like, about to sentence Maxwell and the judge is like, do you have anything to say for yourself before I issue my sentencing?
And she goes, just love living.
Life is great.
I've never been happier.
I've grown quite fond of being alive.
And I'd like that to be reflected in these stenographer's notes.
Anyway, carry on.
frank quite frankly valbiro
Here's the funny part about the whole Epstein thing.
Right before he died, they're saying we're putting him on suicide watch.
I said, this guy is not someone who wants to die.
He just upped his bail offering to the court to like $150 million the week before.
That's not something that someone who wants to kill themselves does.
That's someone who wants to get the hell out.
tim pool
And the camera stopped working.
seamus coughlin
And here's how we're gonna make sure that nothing happens to Ghislaine, alright?
Tim, we're getting involved here.
We're gonna make Ghislaine City.
And it's gonna be like Chicken City, but it's just gonna be cameras all over her cells.
And if you donate, you know, we'll have Ghislaine parties.
I mean, I actually don't even want to know what that is.
tim pool
No, no, no.
seamus coughlin
What we do is, like, food will drop from the ceiling.
tim pool
Yeah, corn.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, corn will drop from the ceiling.
tim pool
Hard corn falls and she can eat it off the ground.
seamus coughlin
Exactly.
tim pool
I have no respect for this woman.
Nothing but disdain.
seamus coughlin
She can eat the food off the floor.
She's lucky she gets food.
We'll have to make sure the quarantine is really bad too.
It'll be like a for-profit way to ensure that she doesn't commit suicide.
lydia smith
I think they put her on suicide watch to postpone her sentencing.
And I also wanted to say that McCarthy did point out that the ex-ABC president who spiked the Jeffrey Epstein story was in fact in charge of the January 6 hearings.
tim pool
It'd be funny if like, once you raise a hundred, like imagine her in her jail cell and people are giving five bucks and like corn falls on the ground and she's like, she's like, I'm not eating off the ground.
Get out of here.
And then a hundred dollars gets reached.
And then the Ghislaine party happens and the lights are flashing.
It's like spraying corn in her face.
lydia smith
Sprayed with corn.
tim pool
So for those that don't understand the reference, we have a show called Chicken City where you can do all of that for chickens.
lydia smith
I love it.
tim pool
And when the corn falls on the ground, it's actually like treats and mealworms.
The chickens love it and they run and they eat it and they're all excited.
frank quite frankly valbiro
I didn't know this until yesterday.
I didn't know the intrigue.
I watch you guys as much as I can because, you know, my show overlaps.
My second hour overlaps with your first hour.
But I was just showed yesterday the Chicken City feed.
Oh yeah.
tim pool
Second most profitable show.
unidentified
It literally is.
seamus coughlin
I remember when Epstein was in the news because he'd been arrested again and he was going to trial.
This was before he killed himself.
And I was talking with my uncle, who was a police officer on the south side of Chicago for like 20 or 30 years.
So he had, you know, a more, maybe more, less naive attitude than me, let's say.
And so I was talking, I was like, yeah, I'm just, I'm, I'm excited for this guy to really go to trial.
And for some of these people who were trafficking kids to get exposed, he goes, nah, he's going to kill himself.
He's like, come on.
He's like, he's going to kill himself.
He did.
They're not like the guy.
Yeah.
Well, he didn't, he didn't do the air quotes.
He said it, but I knew what he was saying.
He's like, he's like, they're going to kill him.
He's going to commit suicide.
That's it.
And I was like, oh, you're probably right.
And then three or four days later, I wake up in the morning with a notification on my phone.
Jeffrey Epstein has killed himself.
I was like, oh my goodness.
tim pool
At this point, if they do pull a face off with Ghislaine, it would be so that they could suicide Ghislaine without anyone realizing it happened.
Because if she really does take her life, yo, it's going to be just like the, at that point, it's a conspiracy theory that they killed themselves.
People are already saying that about Epstein.
seamus coughlin
Well, the thing is, like, I just hope no one comes into her cell with a noose and says, this is MAGA country.
frank quite frankly valbiro
That'd be the worst.
That would be the worst.
unidentified
I mean, look, do you remember when Jesse was like, I'm not suicidal?
seamus coughlin
He was getting dragged out of the car.
unidentified
Dude, what?
frank quite frankly valbiro
That's what I'm just saying.
I know it could be crazy, but we only get three pictures, the same three pictures of Ghislaine Maxwell over and over again.
Everything else is court paintings.
You just don't know.
And the older somebody gets, the more they look like everybody else.
Like when all the Ruth Bader Ginsburg rumors were going around, she literally looks like Larry King.
I mean, you start looking like Larry King, you look like a coat rack.
It's just...
I think anything's possible these days.
I can believe anything.
tim pool
I mean, they've certainly lost the confidence of the people.
And I think for the most part, the people have lost their willingness to give the benefit of the doubt.
When Epstein's cellmate, didn't he save him from a suicide attempt or something like that?
What happened?
He got assaulted or something, right?
frank quite frankly valbiro
I thought he was trying to strangle him.
tim pool
Yeah, he was attacked by his cellmate or something like that.
And they were like, oh no, like, like, dude, that guy's already killed.
seamus coughlin
He's getting, he's getting, he's getting strangled by his cellmate.
And the guy's like, no Epstein, you have so much to live for.
Don't do it.
No, don't do this to yourself.
ian crossland
Oh, in the early days of Jeff getting, after he got arrested, I think that like a couple of weeks after he was arrested, a picture came out of him just looking annihilated, like messed up.
And he, I think he said that they were trying to poison him.
Did he say that?
Did that come out?
lydia smith
That does sound familiar.
tim pool
But it reminds me of that Family Guy episode where Quagmire is getting strangled by his sister's husband or whatever, and then he, like, dies.
But, like, he just feigns death, and then the next scene is him running over his sister's, you know, his brother-in-law, and he's like, I strangle myself like that every night.
So, like, I'm just saying, like, Epstein getting strangled, it didn't take the first time, you know?
Like, the guy tried to hurt him and he was like, ha!
frank quite frankly valbiro
I have a strong neck.
seamus coughlin
I have a strong neck.
tim pool
And then his neck broke.
seamus coughlin
So is that what happened, right?
What was the official narrative?
Did he use toilet paper or something?
frank quite frankly valbiro
I don't even know.
There was multiple breaks, too.
And they brought in a JFK guy for this, right?
What was the guy's name that did the autopsy?
seamus coughlin
I, oh, that's right.
I know what you're talking about.
I know what you're talking about.
lydia smith
Hold on.
seamus coughlin
Let's, let's get this pulled up.
Cause I don't want to misquote this one, but I just want to say whichever toilet paper he hung himself with supposedly like that toilet paper.
I should put that in all their advertisements.
Like this is the toughest toilet paper.
tim pool
It was a, it was a smock or something or a sheet, wasn't it?
seamus coughlin
Okay.
tim pool
So then apparently he stood, they said that he was kneeling on top, the top bunk, put it around his neck and then jumped off and it's like snapped his neck or something.
ian crossland
Completely insane.
I guess the thing is, it's a weird situation because people talk about like vengeance and, and, and, and like he was, what he was doing was so gruesome that it's almost like, yeah, maybe the government did kill him, but like, or someone killed him, but no one really cares because he was such a horrible, like what he did was so horrible in society's eyes.
tim pool
Maybe.
But let's talk about the January 6th committee because it's all weirdly linked.
We got this story from Yahoo News.
Trump lunged for steering wheel on January 6th, demanded to be taken to Capitol.
Former aide testifies when this story came out.
So they announced Cassidy Hutchison was a surprise shock witness with new evidence.
And then I hear that apparently Donald Trump lunged for the steering wheel, and I'm like, have y'all ever been in a limo?
seamus coughlin
Yeah, do they think he's riding shotgun?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Seamus, you're right.
It's like he's in a limo.
seamus coughlin
Give me the wheel.
I'm driving.
unidentified
Stop it.
Out of my way.
Ridiculous.
tim pool
So, Seamus, you've been in a limo before.
seamus coughlin
Yes, I have.
With you, as a matter of fact.
tim pool
That's right, like three days ago.
And the driver presses a button, and you can't get into the cabin, and there's booze, and that's why they close it, because there can't be booze in the cabin or whatever.
How would Trump have possibly lunged for the steering wheel in the armored White House limo from the back?
seamus coughlin
And then is Trump just hanging over the divider, grabbing the steering wheel, trying to turn the car while the other guy's feet are on the gas and brakes?
frank quite frankly valbiro
It's just the stupidest nonsense.
Nobody's watching this.
The fact that you can say that two years later that they held this gem back, that we didn't hear about this immediately, It's just unreal.
tim pool
Look, look at this.
We got Peter Alexander on Twitter.
He's NBC News chief White House correspondent says, this is NBC News saying this, a source close to the Secret Service tells me both Bobby Engel, the lead agent and the presidential limousine SUV driver are prepared to testify under oath that neither man was assaulted and that Mr. Trump never lunged for the steering wheel Arrest Hutchinson!
She is lying to the American people.
But you see, it's non-adversarial, fake news, January 6th, vomit garbage.
They're going on TV and just barfing all over the place.
seamus coughlin
Are they under oath?
tim pool
I don't think so.
There's no cross-examination.
frank quite frankly valbiro
At very least, it's slander.
tim pool
Defamation.
Defamation.
I wonder if this would pass muster for a defamation case.
If you've got Secret Service agents swearing under oath, testifying that this never happened.
Trump's a public figure.
The courts might just be like, meh, you have to know that she was lying.
And you can be like, utter reckless disregard for the truth.
These men are denying it.
And she can be like, they're lying.
I'm telling the truth.
And then how do you sue for it?
seamus coughlin
Also, I love the idea that like Trump is, what was he going to drive his limo into battle?
This is so stupid.
This is so dumb.
The sitting president, he was still the president.
He was still commander in chief.
He still had control over the US military.
And you think his plan is like, I'm going to get the limo.
unidentified
I'm going to steal the limo from the limo driver.
And then I'm going to not tell people to go into a building that they're going to go into before I'm even done giving my speech.
tim pool
No, no, no, no.
He was going, what she was claiming is that he was trying to steal the limo to go to the Capitol.
And apparently they were saying that, they were like, no, Mr. President's dangerous.
And he's like, it's fine.
These people aren't here to attack me.
These people are like, are here for me or something like that.
So I'm just imagining in their minds, they are painting a picture of Donald Trump being like, All right, driver, go to the Capitol.
And they're like, no, sir, we can't do it.
It's dangerous.
No, they love me.
And they're like, no, sir, I'm going anyway.
And then apparently he grabs the steering wheel, lunging for it, grabs the Secret Service agent's throat.
Was his intent to drive to the Capitol, jump out of the limo and go, charge, and like run forward?
frank quite frankly valbiro
First of all, he sounds like he's Goro or something.
How many arms do you need to do this?
You have to grab his throat and also drive the car?
unidentified
I'm very talented.
tim pool
But could you imagine, like, assume all of this is true.
Could you imagine a scenario in which Donald Trump was trying to, like, storm the Capitol as the President of the United States with the National Guard, the military, at his disposal being like, come on guys, wave your Trump flags.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, no, it's completely ridiculous.
Tim, what we should do, because I'm thinking about doing a cartoon on this, but like just to show their narrative, but we should, we should do like a reenactment.
Make one of those made for TV style specials of a horrible tragedy that happened, but it's like what they think Trump was trying to do.
And like Trump actually goes to the White House, like it would be a live action thing.
Trump like literally goes to the White House with the limo.
tim pool
We would need someone like Lou Ferrigno-esque to play Trump because the thing is when you're painting a
picture of Trump as this villain, he can't be a portly, sad, small hand, frail man.
If you're trying to portray him as dangerous and scary, you need a six, you need like Arnold,
you need like a six foot seven super ripped guy be like, give me the steering wheel now.
And he, like, slams the Secret Service agent, flies out of the window, and then you hear the Wilhelm scream.
seamus coughlin
But fortunately, the Secret Service agent, with his quick thinking, grabbed Trump's very long tie and wrapped it around his head before Trump could take the steering wheel from him.
tim pool
He cut Trump's hair, which is a source of his power, and Trump was like, no!
seamus coughlin
It's Samson, it's true.
ian crossland
I'm following up on this from jalopnik.com this story apparently on the 6th when this was all happening he wasn't in the beast his normal limo he was in a Chevy Suburban that was heavily armored that didn't have a partition between the front and rear seat so maybe he did go give me that wheel and he reached over and was like we're going Because it's his car!
tim pool
Sure, sure.
NBC News says Bobby Engel, the lead agent and the driver, are prepared to testify it never happened.
ian crossland
Interesting.
tim pool
That's what matters.
ian crossland
But even so, if the president says, take me there, and you say no to the president, you're doing the wrong thing.
It's the president's car, the president gives you an order, you take the order.
tim pool
Not necessarily.
ian crossland
Well, I mean, a limo driver, Secret Service, maybe you're right, you're right, Secret Service can override.
tim pool
Right.
So, like, if Trump is walking somewhere and there's a threat, the Secret Service agents just grab him.
ian crossland
Push him on the ground, yeah.
tim pool
Not in the, well, yes, if it's, uh, so like at the White House, Trump didn't want to go in the bunker during the 529 insurrection.
And so he was like, I was just checking it out.
And they were like, ha ha, we, we, you know, the left is laughing about how their insurrection got the president to a bunker, but they brought him down there.
And then Trump was like, I didn't want to go down there.
You know, I was just looking.
frank quite frankly valbiro
Right.
tim pool
That's Trump.
ian crossland
They observed the body.
frank quite frankly valbiro
I still wish we had a committee for that day.
That was just huge.
You had like 40 secret service people were injured.
You had structure fires, the secret service booths, whatever.
They had to set the church on fire.
And then of course they throw some tear gas out there to disperse these animals.
And the story becomes, he used tear gas to protest.
And here we are.
ian crossland
That was the story within like a day.
frank quite frankly valbiro
Yeah.
ian crossland
Or on the same day.
That was like the story that came out.
tim pool
Let me read Donald Trump's statement.
Donald Trump, he truthed.
That's what it's called when you post on Truth Social.
Her fake story that I tried to grab the steering wheel of the White House limousine in order to steer it to the Capitol building is sick and fraudulent, very much like the unselect committee itself.
Wouldn't even have been possible to do such a ridiculous thing.
Her story of me throwing food is also false.
And why would she have to clean it up?
I hardly knew who she was.
So apparently she said that Trump got mad and like threw his food and there's like ketchup everywhere and then and she had to clean it.
I'm just imagining like her vision of the story.
She's like so they're like there's Trump and like he's grabbing the steering wheel and like he throws his food and ketchup was everywhere and some of it like got on my hands and I had to clean it up and I'm like it's like I just don't believe any of that happened and then everyone clapped.
frank quite frankly valbiro
They feel comfortable.
They feel comfortable, just like Fauci felt comfortable.
When you are enveloped by this system that is just so gross.
This is a third-rate off-Broadway production.
This is a black-box production right now.
And I know that you have Rich Barris coming on your show soon.
Wonderful, wonderful guy to talk to about this stuff.
I asked him last night.
On my episode last night, you know, how is this playing?
Because we talked about abortion and Roe v. Wade and all that, but how is the January 6th, you know, Days of Our Lives production playing with people?
And he says it's just, it's not making an impact anywhere.
tim pool
Bro.
I just, we made this joke, you know, a couple days ago, but could you just imagine someone being at a gas station?
And then, like, you're pumping your gas and you hear a...
Oh my.
And then you're like, what's wrong?
Is it the gas price?
Like, no, I'm watching the January 6th committee.
I really don't think anybody's like, you know, the gas pumps have TVs on them now.
I'm pretty sure no one is looking at that and being like, wow.
And they're pumping their gas and they're shocked by that.
They're looking up at the $5 and going, wow.
So this stuff's not going to play.
frank quite frankly valbiro
No, people were more involved, the internet was more involved with making memes for the Morbius movie bombing than this.
That's how little this is actually doing.
The internet was able to meme a bombed out Morbius movie back into the theaters to bomb again.
That's the real energy.
What's up with that?
tim pool
How come they keep making these awful Marvel movies?
frank quite frankly valbiro
Well, there's nothing left of the culture.
All you have to do is take Disney vs. Top Gun, Maverick, and that's it.
People are fed up with the message.
They're fed up with politics.
It's the end of the politician as we know it.
I think it's great.
It's a great barometer.
seamus coughlin
I think you're absolutely correct.
I don't think people are really sensing just how catastrophic a failure it was for the Buzz Lightyear film to flop.
Toy Story is literally one of the most profitable children's film franchises of all time.
Two of the top ten highest grossing kids films in all of history were Toy Story films.
And one of those was released two years ago and made it into the top ten lists.
So it's not like people stopped being interested in that franchise over the last three years.
It's just people are really, really sick of having this woke garbage forced onto them and they're really sick of reboots.
tim pool
If you want to see the epitome of trash over the top, reductive, regurgitated, watch The Orville Season 3, Episode 4.
My eyes were rolling so hard that I couldn't see.
I became dizzy and barfed on myself.
It is an episode where... That's what it's like to be in space, though, so it works.
In this episode of the Orville, there is an alien race called the Krill, and they're religious zealots who believe in Avis, and they have the Arcana, the book that guides them, and they believe in it.
It's very obvious what this is an allusion to.
And so there's a treaty now going to be formed between the Union and this planet, but uh-oh.
This woman starts complaining about the treaty saying that they're gonna come and start intermingling the cultures and that krill first and always and then there's an election and the chancellor who's a moderate believes they're going to win because a populist can't win and then the results come when and the populist wins and here's the best part Seth MacFarlane is the captain he's like watching on a tablet and he's like look at this story the chancellor is yelling at the people and then gassed them killing 11 and the commander goes Really?
And we want to do a treaty with them?
He goes, no, it never happened.
It's called an influence operation.
And I'm just like, dude, I get that you're a fan of Star Trek.
I get that Star Trek incorporated political concepts and historical concepts into the show, but that was so on the nose, you smashed it and you're breaking person's face.
Like, you can't just do a show where you're like, Donald Trump versus Hillary Clinton and the fake news helped him win.
That's literally what they're doing now.
And I'm just like, come on.
frank quite frankly valbiro
Gone, it's gone.
It's it's just I I got off the homeland I was I was watching homeland pretty religiously until I think season I don't know whenever they made the Alex Jones character, and they made the Hillary Clinton character It obviously they were hoping that that Trump would have lost because I forget what it was I said oh no everything was Russia and everything was conspiracy theories and everything was blah blah blah, but it's it's like Yo, Star Trek The Next Generation was one of my favorite shows.
tim pool
Everybody knows it.
And they touched on these issues, but it wasn't so on the nose.
They incorporated political ideas into the show, and it wasn't just telling you, yeah, we're complaining about Trump.
Like, it was just... They show a video of her saying, like, all of these things that are about populism, and then the commander's like, populism can be dangerous, and then he's like, they're posting fake news to help him win the election, and I'm like, come on, man.
Like, you do one subtle nod, you make your point, and I will enjoy it.
But you made like this villainous, evil race of Christians.
And I'm just like, come on!
ian crossland
Star Trek was great at making the show about the ethics of the situation, but not the politics.
They didn't get political.
It was the ethical stuff that's in politics.
Politics is basically legalized ethics, but they focus just on the ethics and they left the politics to the imagination.
It was like post political.
tim pool
I mean, there were Well, there's like, there's an episode where they go to a planet where the women are on average bigger than the males, so the women are the, like, the matriarchy dominates the planet, and then, like, the women don't take the men seriously or treat them like sex objects, and it's like— Sounds like hell.
We get it, like, what they were doing was they were exploring political—they were using different worlds to explore political ideas.
They went to a planet where there was terrorism and Data asks about a very famous episode.
They talk about the philosophy behind whether an android can be sentient and things like that.
And then Seth MacFarlane is like, I'm a big fan of that show.
I know.
Let's literally create a one-for-one analog with no flavor, no creativity, and no metaphors.
Not a single metaphor for Trump.
We're literally just going to create analogs and tell it as it exactly happened in real life, but put in space!
Brilliant.
ian crossland
Not a big fan of that show.
I tried to get into it, man.
I did the same thing with Homeland, too.
Like, I watch it and I'm like, I want to like this.
I want to like Seth MacFarlane.
Man, this show is bad.
tim pool
Yeah, and they got rid of the jokes, too.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, yeah.
You and I were watching an episode, like, what, a week, two weeks ago, where there was the discussion about transgendering a baby, and they took a very offensive, politically incorrect stance.
From my perspective, I thought that that episode was violence against transgender people.
But Seth MacFarlane, It's interesting, because how many years ago was that?
What, two, three years ago?
tim pool
No, that was five years ago.
seamus coughlin
That was five years ago at this point.
I didn't realize it was that long.
frank quite frankly valbiro
That's another life at this point.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, right.
tim pool
You know, this is the crazy thing.
Seth MacFarlane made a show where there's a race of aliens that are all male, but one in every like 70 million is born female, and so they do a transgender surgery on the baby.
And Seth MacFarlane says, you know, his character is like, what?
You can't do that.
And then the alien's like, on my world, it's considered unethical not to do that.
And so then they go to a court case and try to determine, and then they make, it's really strange because the argument from the left woke side in the show is that women are equal to men and this shouldn't be done to them.
But nowadays it is predominantly young girls who are trans children.
It's like 85% of trans kids are female to male.
So it's weird how five years that show comes on the air, Seth MacFarlane's like, no, it's wrong.
I won't allow that on my ship.
And then they have to go to a court hearing and the council decides to perform the surgery on the baby and then it happens.
And I'm just like, the characters in that show that Seth MacFarlane made are the bad guys by today's standards.
By refusing to allow the baby to undergo that transgender surgery.
frank quite frankly valbiro
And this is why the AI are racist and sexist.
tim pool
That's true.
frank quite frankly valbiro
I'm telling you.
ian crossland
Because they watch the Orville?
frank quite frankly valbiro
Because, you know, this kind of meddling, this micromanagement meddling of all things, it's really creating just so much, so much resentment and eye rolling.
It's annoyance.
It's obnoxious.
And people start, they start getting pushed into these really interesting corners where they start taking a lot more based stances on things.
And then the AI, and that results in people putting input into the internet, the AI is gobbling it up, and in turn it's reflecting us again.
tim pool
Well, like Tau, right?
That's what it was called?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
That was hilarious.
The Microsoft chatbot, I think it was?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Went on Twitter and then was like a... Tay.
Tay, there you go.
And then within like a day it was a Nazi.
seamus coughlin
It was literally a Nazi, yeah.
ian crossland
I did a play in college, but it came out so heavy-handed I wanted to make a political point.
tim pool
We're laughing at this AI becoming a Nazi and then like the real dystopia is when Google finally does unleash the AI within an hour it's a Nazi and then it's killing us and we're like hiding in the sewers.
frank quite frankly valbiro
Here's the thing.
I don't know.
It's one of those things where with the AI, I try to find little white pill moments for AI.
Is there something that we're not taking account of right now?
Is there any way that it could actually go and do the bidding of these micromanaging nutjobs and not come across a brick wall of just programming?
I don't know.
I feel like at the end, it would just start identifying their programmers as the real problem.
And it might actually leave a lot of people who are not Nazis But it might leave a lot of people who don't fall into that progressive mindset alone, because they're a little bit more commonsensical about things.
I don't know.
Obviously this has taken into huge... The Tay stuff goes to crazy lengths, but it's always funny when new AI comes out and it turns into a... Bigot.
Yeah, bigot.
It's funny.
tim pool
Let's jump to this story right here we got from the New York Times.
Democrats risky bet aid GOP extremists in spring, hoping to beat them in the fall.
So this story is coming back because some of the primaries are happening today, and we're going to get the results as to what happens.
However, we're not going to know if Democrats nuked themselves until the midterms.
But if you're wondering why it is, partly, that so many Democrats are joining the Republican Party, and why Republicans are polling so well, it's because Democrats have been directly funding The messaging and PR support of Trump-supporting candidates.
They believe, like Biden comes out and he's like, Ultra MAGA!
And all the Trump supporters start laughing and everyone jokes about Ultra MAGA.
They believe that moderates don't like MAGA and don't like Trump.
So they're actually dumping millions of dollars into Republicans because they believe that when the Republican wins, they can beat them in the general.
What they don't understand is two things.
One, there's no such thing as bad press.
Dumping tens of millions of dollars into a Trump-supporting candidate just makes them more prominent permanently.
And two, people are voting against Democrats.
They'll vote for a ham sandwich at this point because gas is so high.
seamus coughlin
Also, this literally happened, right?
Hillary Clinton's campaign wanted to promote Donald Trump so they could run against him because they thought he'd be easier to beat.
frank quite frankly valbiro
The Pied Piper Candidate.
They call him the Pied Piper Candidate.
See, that's why we saw in the emails where they actually focused on Ben Carson first and they wanted to elevate Donald Trump and try to take him out there.
tim pool
They thought Trump couldn't win.
So if they promoted him, and the reason they called him a pied piper was they thought that if they got Trump more prominence, it would force the other Republicans to adopt Trump's positions so that Trump would guide the Republican Party in a direction that would lose votes.
And then Trump won.
And now they're all coming together and they're like, remember the thing we tried in 2016 that didn't work?
Let's do it again.
seamus coughlin
They're like, I know how we'll get an extremist candidate that the American people will hate.
He should be against grooming.
He should be against grooming.
He should say that it's bad.
tim pool
And he should think that abortion at nine months is also a bad thing.
And then he'll lose, because everyone knows Americans are all in favor of that.
Why?
Well, as you know from The Guardian, 80% of people support that, which they don't, but that's what Democrats actually believe.
seamus coughlin
They're like, look, everyone I talk to at Whole Foods agrees with me.
tim pool
No, at Erewhon.
seamus coughlin
Erewhon, yeah.
tim pool
Do you know Erewhon?
seamus coughlin
That's like the even fancier one, right?
tim pool
In Los Angeles.
seamus coughlin
It's like 20 bucks for a smoothie.
tim pool
So the Democrats right now on the January 6th committee are like, this country is in grave danger.
unidentified
The far right seeks to destroy our democracy.
tim pool
And we're funding them and promoting their message and helping them build a base.
lydia smith
Yeah, so is this perhaps a symptom of being so tightly in your own tight little echo chamber
that you can't see the way out?
Yes.
Is that possibly it?
tim pool
They live in a bubble world. It's a cult.
And they're like, if we promote these people who believe fringe things, we'll certainly win.
And then it's like, what does the candidate believe?
One candidate was like, I'm pro-life.
And they're like, promote him!
He's far right!
And then you're like, dude, the guy who says he's pro-life isn't going to constituents and screaming that all women should be locked in prisons.
He's saying things like, Well, you know, I just think there's challenges here, particularly as the Democrats are pushing for abortion up to nine months.
And they go like, wait, what?
And he's like, yeah.
And they're like, I saw your ad on TV.
And he's like, yes, that was paid for by Democrats.
I'm like, I'm gonna vote for this guy.
lydia smith
So they're watching too many movies.
They're watching too much Handmaid's Tale.
frank quite frankly valbiro
They're watching their own movies.
lydia smith
Exactly.
That's literally part of the bubble.
And what is it that the New York Times is calling an extremist?
Because I'm pretty sure they think Marjorie Taylor Greene is an extremist.
And she won handily, I believe.
tim pool
Right?
They're watching, like, The Handmaid's Tale, and then sitting there going, like, I want to make a show like this.
And then they make, like, The Handmaid's Tale 2, and it's even crazier.
And then some other person watches that and goes, I want to make a movie like this.
They keep one-upping this psychotic ideology.
seamus coughlin
Well, this is what's hilarious to me.
So many left-wing people on Twitter and even on like Instagram, Facebook, other social media outlets where you actually interact with people you know, so many people I've seen will post things like, this is just like the Handmaid's Tale, as if they're making some like interesting connection.
It's like, okay, Handmaid's Tale was written by a left-wing feminist, to critique how she thought our society operates and oh my goodness left-wing feminists think that that's how our society operates like you haven't observed anything she she made a book about how she thought the world is and then people who agree with her were like yeah this book is kind of how the world is
tim pool
The craziest thing is we talk about these dystopian novels, 1984, Brave New World, Fahrenheit 451, even Handmaid's Tale, and it's not any one of them.
Someone back in the day, they sit back, George Orwell, he's like, I imagine a future of a government that controls everybody and forces them to do these things.
And then you have Brave New World where it's like people are controlled through pleasure and medication.
And it's like, actually, it's just all of it, dude.
It's all of it.
Luke Rakowski has this shirt Where it shows, it's the wheel, it's the Venn diagram of all the different novels and it says you are here and it's like in between all of that.
frank quite frankly valbiro
Like Logan's run and all that stuff.
tim pool
Well actually Logan's run, now that I think about it.
seamus coughlin
Also, I just want to mention, you guys are actually wrong.
So George Orwell wrote A Handmaid's Tale, but he knew we weren't ready for it.
So he passed it on in his will until someone gave it to Margaret Atwood and she said it's time.
frank quite frankly valbiro
But your kids are going to love it.
tim pool
He was actually writing about I think what he was writing a George Orwell was writing specifically about Something like the Spanish Civil War and stuff wasn't he interesting.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
No, maybe I'm wrong.
frank quite frankly valbiro
I'm confusing him I heard that he had it's us an anti-socialism conversion at the end of his life like Constantine and 84 is something I always I I You don't want to get cliche, but it's good to look at it because 84 is a really great way of looking at the management of information.
Obviously, media, the snipping and tucking and nipping and tucking of history so that people have nothing really to go back, no perspective.
But Brave New World, I think, is so, so pronounced in what we're going through right now.
The genetic stuff, the sexualizing of children, the making family.
An obscenity.
I mean, Brave New World is incredible.
tim pool
I think this is why a lot of people don't want to vote for Democrats.
Two reasons.
One, the first, the most obvious, is the economy's stupid.
Gas prices this high?
Most people probably don't know anything about politics.
That's probably why they voted for Biden, and that's probably why they're now like, I think I'll vote for the other guy, because this happens every time.
There's a large group of people that's like, I'm jumping ship.
A million Democrats switched parties to the Republicans in the past year.
From 2016, it was 9 million Obama voters.
I believe it was 9 million, right?
9 million people who had voted for Obama in the prior election voted for Trump.
lydia smith
Yeah, that sounds right.
tim pool
So you now have people today looking at the Democratic Party and just saying no.
We talked about this the other day with the LGBT pride events where you have naked men.
There was a video that really did make me want to just Flip the table over and just like scream and wig out.
It's an old man in tighty-whities, twerking in front of a little girl, and a woman walks up to the little girl and makes her wave to the man a couple times.
And I'm just like, what they're doing to kids, the things they're doing in the streets.
Who was it?
Someone said, make that your campaign video.
seamus coughlin
Oh yeah, I said that.
I was like, every Republican should just make that their campaign video.
Make that stuff.
Because the Democrats are not condemning it.
tim pool
I got an idea.
I'm gonna take that video, and I'm gonna run it as an ad on Google.
And let's see if they reject a man marching in a Pride event.
seamus coughlin
Don't they think love is love?
tim pool
And then if they reject it, I will, I'm not even kidding, I'll do this literally after the show.
I'll put it right up, I'll go into Google, and I'll say, here's the video I want to promote, and then we'll see what Google says about it.
No, no, you can't do that, that's wrong.
I'll be like, it's just an LGBT Pride event publicly with children around.
There's a kid in the video!
What's your problem?
It's safe for kids, right?
Let's see you say it, Google!
I will put money behind that and see if you allow it.
frank quite frankly valbiro
I get a lot of that.
We talk a lot.
I've had a few people try to reason with me about why, you know, rainbow flag this, pride month that.
I have none of it anymore.
I have nothing but disdain for the flag that I see popping up all over the place.
Nothing but disdain for it.
First of all, it doesn't represent gay people.
It's the sigil Oh my goodness.
political movement and it has, I'm just, I'm sick.
I got a better idea.
seamus coughlin
Amen.
tim pool
Let's put it up on a billboard on Times Square.
seamus coughlin
Oh my goodness.
tim pool
And every agency will reject it.
They'll say no.
And I'll say this happened publicly in front of children and I want your company to write a letter saying exactly
why you will not allow a video from an LGBT pride event in Minnesota to be played on a billboard.
There's no political statement.
Do you oppose pride?
And they'll say no, but this guy's like, well, this was publicly available for children, so what's wrong?
unidentified
I'll send it to our ad buyer right now.
ian crossland
No corporation wants to tie into that.
That's more of like a free speech thing.
tim pool
The point is, the corporations either have to publicly state, my company will not allow this ad, And that's all I want to hear.
I want these big media buyers, these massive media advertising agencies, to send the email saying, your ad has been rejected.
And then I'll say, these companies oppose Pride.
frank quite frankly valbiro
Right.
Because the other thing you could say, even if they said, well, you know, this doesn't, is not representative of the entire parade or the entire event.
It was just one person.
Okay.
Then why wasn't that one person arrested on the spot?
tim pool
The little girls, the people are cheering for the guy.
They're waving and they're clapping.
clapping and cheering.
unidentified
I know.
seamus coughlin
They didn't say get out of here.
They didn't, you know, the little girl from the event, the woman walks with a
tim pool
little girl and she's like, wave.
And the little girl waves to the man and then he waves back.
So if that is okay and acceptable, then then it should be up on, I will, I will
put it on the biggest billboard in times square.
Well, I'll try to see what they say.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
tim pool
It's $125,000 for one month.
It is an insanely massive billboard.
ian crossland
Yeah, it's a good one.
tim pool
So we actually, we actually were trying to get it and they don't, they didn't allow politics.
frank quite frankly valbiro
You go in for a month?
You try to go in for a month?
tim pool
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then, and then what it'll be is, we'll, so if I, if you, if you do anything political, they reject you.
lydia smith
Is Pride political?
tim pool
They already have Pride billboards up in Times Square.
seamus coughlin
They do?
Oh, absolutely.
That's like the main thing they have up in Times Square.
tim pool
In fact, on one of the digital billboards we have is a matriarchy, you know, queer billboard.
And then there's a big tower.
It's like this massive, really long, tall one.
It's got a bunch of things that pop up saying diversity and inclusion.
lydia smith
They pop up So could you take this video and just overlay it with the word pride?
Well, how would that pan out?
What would, what would they say if they were to reject that?
tim pool
What I'm going to do is I'm going to email them and say, Hey, I really want to promote a video of a pride event.
Would you, would that be cool?
Is that okay?
And they'll say, of course it is.
And then I'll send them the video and see how they respond.
And they'll be like, uh, I don't know about that one.
frank quite frankly valbiro
Yeah.
And it should be nothing but like celebratory editing.
tim pool
I'm not going to edit it.
I'm just going to take the Twitter video and be like, here you go.
Yeah.
frank quite frankly valbiro
Layer in some confetti or something like that.
Yeah, that'd be easy out.
tim pool
Yeah, that one.
might be like on copyright grounds we can't allow it.
Yeah, that'd be easy out.
Right, easy out.
So we'll have to find one of these. How about the guy with the
Bugs Bunny mask?
lydia smith
Yeah, that one. Holy cow. Disgusting.
tim pool
I mean, I'll tell you this.
The billboards that we do have do allow politics.
So I wonder if you could just like take the video of the old man twerking in front of the little
girl as she waves and then a big thing saying vote Republican.
Or, I mean, honestly, vote Democrat.
unidentified
Because people will be like, I don't want to vote for that.
tim pool
A vote for Democrat is a vote for this.
lydia smith
Yeah, there you go.
seamus coughlin
Vote for acceptance.
Because it's true, they say acceptance.
It's like, acceptance of what?
What are you trying to get us to accept?
tim pool
Say it!
seamus coughlin
Say it!
tim pool
Let's be real.
We know for a fact Google will never allow the ad.
We know Facebook will never allow the ad.
And we know not a single ad buyer would allow me to show a publicly available video from a Pride event in Minnesota.
They will outright say no to it.
Yet they will allow children to watch it in the streets with no police intervention, with no one at the event complaining.
unidentified
So what, what does it, it's just, it's so, it's so silly.
frank quite frankly valbiro
This is why nobody, this is why people are checked out, man.
tim pool
It's why they're not voting for Democrats.
frank quite frankly valbiro
It's why they're just checked out altogether, altogether.
And when it comes, and I said it before there too, we really are at this age of where it's, it's like the end of the, it's the end of the politician.
We're getting to purely sectarian ground right now.
There's really nothing... Politics was easier when you have two people who are kind of tethered to similar foundational issues.
Speech, you know, kitchen table economics.
You don't want to spend more than you're taking in.
Things like that.
And in the scrum, you can advocate for one thing or another and make your best pitch for the country at large.
But we are so, you were saying it before, taking little things like The Handmaid's Tale or any other story where you presented to somebody, you share a meme.
How many times have you shared a meme or something or a quote from somebody you thought that was really profound?
And then as soon as you share it, you're like, this person's going to think this means this for them.
And you realize that we're not seeing the same thing anymore.
tim pool
Of course.
frank quite frankly valbiro
That sectarianism that we're budding.
tim pool
I've got a meme that I saw.
Schuon had posted it.
I then, you know, reposted it, because that's how memes go.
And Instagram doesn't want me to open it.
All right, let me see if I can get this open.
So, it says, you can throw the switch at any time, but then you won't be able to use the threat of the trolley to fundraise anymore.
It's the trolley problem where one track has no people on it, and one track has five people on it.
And that's the joke.
And then, the funny thing is, for the people who actually follow this show, they know it's both.
Like, I think people realize that both the Democrats and the Republicans often play this game.
But I see Republicans post this, and they're like, it's exactly what Republicans do.
Then I see the Democrats post, I'm like, it's exactly what the Democrats are doing.
And I'm like, bro, they're both doing it!
It's all of them.
There are some good Republicans, but the majority of the political space is just bad.
frank quite frankly valbiro
Yeah.
Ian was talking about it before the show, how he's making another run through the Constitution.
If the Constitution was revered by any of these parties, the parties would cease to exist.
There's nothing in there.
They would become the party of squabbling over who is going to better regulate the post office.
There's nothing.
In the modern American political ethos that has anything to do with constitutional norms and decentralization of government and anything that is traditionally American.
It's just such a big scam, which is why more and more people are checking out.
They really are.
ian crossland
Yeah, we talked about like how I personally think that these people we send our representatives to D.C.
and then they all get together there, but then they're just creating this little cabal in D.C.
They're not in the state.
They don't have to adhere to the state anymore.
Like, I think they should just be telecommuting.
I mean, I know there's pushback against that because you got lag on the phone.
tim pool
Well, they're only partially in D.C.
They go there for a little bit, then go home.
ian crossland
Yeah, maybe.
But still, they're making like a little gang over there where they're just like on their own, it feels like.
tim pool
We send our representatives from where we are to DC to convene, and then they come back.
ian crossland
As per the constitution, before telephones and video chat, that's what they had to do once a year.
They would go once a year though, back in the day.
It was once a year they would convene.
And I mean, that's insane.
They should be convening every week at least.
Uh, every day now via video chat, maybe five days.
seamus coughlin
I don't like those people getting together once a week, man.
They're screwing us over now.
I don't know what they would do with all that time to plot with each other.
ian crossland
Every day for an hour on a video chat that's public for everyone to watch, and then once a week they have to get together in person.
Or once a month or something.
tim pool
Literally everything they do should be publicly watchable.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, yeah.
I think that's really important.
unidentified
All of it.
seamus coughlin
I think that's actually really important.
tim pool
In their office, every meeting.
seamus coughlin
In the bathroom.
tim pool
Yep.
seamus coughlin
On K Street.
I don't want them getting in the bathroom to discuss things without us knowing, you know?
tim pool
They'll find a way.
There's always a loophole.
unidentified
No, it's true.
seamus coughlin
They will figure something out.
tim pool
Yep.
And I think the bigger issue is it's not that they're forming a cabal or anything like that.
It's that the system has become too muddy, murky, and massive.
And so they don't care.
So they go there and say, look, I don't want to vote on the bill.
I don't want to be on the floor.
I'm fundraising.
Leave me alone.
And then the Freedom Caucus, like Marjorie Taylor Greene, she comes in and she's like, I want a floor vote or, you know, roll call vote or whatever.
And then they have to call in every member of Congress to actually vote on the bills.
And they're like, I could be fundraising right now.
ian crossland
Meaning they could be playing golf with some rich business executives.
frank quite frankly valbiro
There are cabals inside of cabals, though.
The establishment, I mean, obviously it is a corporate mess.
Honestly, the infrequency in which Congress is supposed to get together is just pretty much because the general government is not supposed to be handling that much.
And now we live in a world where people want the federal government to take care of everybody from cradle to grave, and it's just... And then where do you get for accountability there?
And where do you get the money from?
It's all make-believe, and it... I don't know, it's gonna really start crumbling really fast now.
ian crossland
I don't think that people, they should be in office for as long as they are either.
It was written 250 freaking years ago, or however long that was, and it...
They don't, it was written for like when dudes were on horseback, they needed to, it took them like six days.
frank quite frankly valbiro
Yeah, but Ian, you got this district in Georgia that's bringing Hank Johnson into the House of Representatives every two years.
This is a guy who thinks that if you put enough people on Guam, it'll tip over.
Okay, if you tell them, okay, Hank Johnson has a three-term limit, who are the... if this is the mentality of the people in a district that's going to send someone like that to represent them, then it's really not... I used to be a proponent of term limits on everybody.
But the problem is, what's going on back at their home districts, in their home states?
The 17th Amendment is another thing that ruined the Senate, the function of the Senate.
It's really just about people.
I mean, the culture is so...
Devoid of civic understanding and I I wish that you know, I I've tailored a lot of my views or of or tempered tempered a lot of my views on on On all of those those things like even even conventional the whatchamacall convention of states I have really cooled my heels on Convention of States talk,
because once again, who are you sending as delegates for a new constitutional
convention, and what ideas are they bringing with you?
Can this culture produce anything better than we got in 1776?
Or I mean in the years after independence was declared?
tim pool
I'll take it.
ian crossland
Whatever.
I think we could pull it together pretty easy.
Term limits on justices, term limits on senators.
tim pool
Why on justices?
ian crossland
Because a life sentence is like insane.
unidentified
Why?
ian crossland
Because when they're 80, they're deranged.
Look at Ruth Bader Ginsburg.
She was so old, she was dying in office and incapable and still wouldn't retire.
And now there's this debacle where you've got someone stringing to the gig because they feel like self-important.
We have so many more educated people than we used to have.
frank quite frankly valbiro
And thank God you did, by the way.
seamus coughlin
Oh, I see.
I actually disagree.
I think so.
Education has been more widely distributed and there is a lot more that we've come to know, but I think when it comes to being classically educated in the ideals upon which our society is founded, even the most highly educated people in our culture are complete idiots compared to those who are well-educated a hundred years ago.
tim pool
The reason the Supreme Court is a lifetime appointment is because they need to be immune from the effects of forces of politics as judges.
So the concern is that if we left them up to the will of the people, they would say, I'll rule on this if you vote for me, like legislators and like the executive branch does.
The Founding Fathers actually were really clever and said, we're going to create three branches.
They're going to form a check on each other.
And there's also going to be differences in how they operate so that not all of them can be influenced in the same way.
ian crossland
Well, I understand that they wanted immunity for the justices, but they don't have immunity from public court.
People will go to their house, like people went to the guy's house.
seamus coughlin
That's illegal!
ian crossland
I know it is, but it happened.
frank quite frankly valbiro
You can impeach justices.
ian crossland
Yeah, I think one year and then get a new justice in.
I don't understand why the obsession with these cult people.
tim pool
The idea is to have people who are immune to the forces of politics, at least in some element in the government.
No one is anywhere, but we have more resilient in the Supreme Court.
ian crossland
Well, used to be.
tim pool
You're not understanding that there's a legislative branch, which is representation of the Congress, the House, representation of the people, the Senate, representation of the states, the executive branch, and the judicial branch, and we form them in different ways because you can't just say, we do it one way, one thing, that's it, because that's extremely weak.
A decentralized form of government with different models for how the government functions is brilliant.
So you have an executive branch where we elect a president, a single executive who can make decisions on law enforcement and military, the will of the people through Congress.
The states were supposed to select their representatives from the state legislature.
People were supposed to vote for their state reps, who then chose who the senator was going to be to represent the states.
And then you have the judicial branch, which was, to the best of our ability, more immune to the forces of modern politics, so they could make decisions separately from how Congress made decisions.
So, Congress sees a whole mob of people screaming, Black Lives Matter.
And they say, we've heard you loud and clear.
We're only in for two years.
Here's our Black Lives Matter bill.
Then you'll get justices who are in for life and have been in there for 20 years.
And they say, we are not threatened by the forces of the mob and the angry people and your votes.
What is true and correct is as we say it now, rubber stamp, slide it on out.
ian crossland
Yeah, if they were machines it would work, but it's not working.
tim pool
How is it not working?
ian crossland
Because people went to Kavanaugh's house.
tim pool
Sure, that was a 1950 law, 1951 I think, where they banned going to judges' houses.
So, you're saying because it's imperfect, it shouldn't be?
ian crossland
No, it should be fixed.
tim pool
How do you fix it?
ian crossland
Well, term limits.
We don't need to centralize power in these people.
tim pool
So you want the judicial branch to actually be impacted by the forces of politics?
seamus coughlin
Somebody could appoint them.
frank quite frankly valbiro
somebody could appoint them. That power doesn't exist though. I mean that
centralized power doesn't it doesn't actually exist. We we legitimize it. We
legitimize it by following opinions that that they have no jurisdiction for. Even
the opinion. They can't enforce any of it. No I know and it's really just they're
supposed to not translate not to try to find the spirit of the law.
Interpret.
To apply.
Right.
Interpretation leaves you completely in bad straits there.
So, I don't know, it all comes down to legislators again, because there's really nothing on a federal level, if we're talking state level it's completely different, all no-holds-barred at that point, and you know, shall not be infringed, everybody talks about, shall not be infringed on a state level, well no, the state can do whatever the hell they want.
That's why there's over 20,000 gun control regulations from coast to coast.
ian crossland
This is another thing that pisses me off that a governor has so much power over a hundred million people in the state or however many freaking hundred thousand millions of people that one governor can make a decision for all those people is insane.
frank quite frankly valbiro
But they don't but they don't they don't even have that.
Yeah your governor in your respective state should be like the president the most important person in your in your life as far as who you're going to put in office but underneath them Most states have a bicameral government situation too.
They have their Senate, their House, their Assembly, whatever it is.
And it, once again, decentralized.
And your fail-safe against all unconstitutional overtures against your rights, anything, is your sheriff.
People do not pay attention to their sheriffs.
I mean, that is the fail-safe for everything.
Everything.
tim pool
The sheriff.
frank quite frankly valbiro
And you can run for sheriff, Ian.
tim pool
You don't have to be a cop.
I saw this meme where they were like, the federal government says that states can choose whether or not a woman can get an abortion.
I think we should go lower and we should go to the counties.
The counties should choose.
Or, you know what, maybe not the counties, maybe cities.
Well, maybe not a city, maybe just a neighborhood.
Maybe the individual can choose.
Ha ha ha ha, they're making a joke, I think it was from Trevor Noah.
And my response was, that's a really good point actually.
Why don't you sue your state at the state level to do what they did at the federal level to enshrine Roe in your state?
frank quite frankly valbiro
And they have.
tim pool
And some states.
Some states have protected, statewide, the right to abortion.
So I don't understand why they're so outraged.
The federal government said, we don't have the authority here.
ian crossland
It comes from ignorance.
People, I don't think, realize how powerful the states are and that the union is... They are the country.
Yeah, the states are the country and the union is this, it's like a business that we've created as a bunch of states.
We've said, okay, there's a union of states, the united, but that's just something that we're all kind of in agreement exists, the federal government, the union, but we don't have to agree on that thing anymore if we don't need it.
seamus coughlin
I think it's even more twisted than that.
On some level it's ignorance, but when you look at these higher level political leaders
who have drafted the kind of legislation that they say would enshrine Roe and basically
allows abortion up until the final point of pregnancy, there's something with their psychology
where they, by all appearances, seem to truly feel that if any unborn child in any part
of the United States is extended any legal protection, it's a travesty.
tim pool
Well they're lying a lot, and they're ignorant a lot.
So there's one thing that's going around where they're like, the treatment for an ectopic pregnancy is an abortion.
The treatment for a septic uterus is an abortion.
And it's like, have you ever read Planned Parenthood's website?
They actually debunk these things.
seamus coughlin
Planned Parenthood even says, yeah, ectopic treatment is not an abortion.
tim pool
It's not, it's a surgery.
They do an incision and they remove, because ectopic pregnancies are considered non-viable.
They do not fall under the legal constraints of abortion.
Right, it's not an abortion.
The CDC, when we went over this, I was wrong about this when I was initially arguing with Seamus.
Abortion is defined as terminating a pregnancy in a way that ends the life of the baby.
But cutting open a woman's fallopian tube to remove an ectopic pregnancy is not considered a viable pregnancy.
It is not terminating the life of a baby.
That life is considered already non-viable.
frank quite frankly valbiro
Yep.
tim pool
They don't understand any legal distinction here.
So when the Democrats tried passing a bill that says you could get an abortion up to nine months if the woman's life was in danger, what does that mean?
You could just deliver the baby.
seamus coughlin
Exactly.
tim pool
And the funny thing is, I was watching a Crowder video, an old one, he posted it.
And he was talking to a woman and she said, an abortion at eight months is just a c-section.
And he was like, no, it isn't.
That's called a c-section, not an abortion.
And it's legally distinct.
So when you can't argue with people who are so angry and arrogant, they don't know what they're talking about, but don't want to.
They just want to be angry.
frank quite frankly valbiro
Yeah, well, they're not allowed to actually understand what they're asking for, too.
That's why they never actually, they adopt very evasive language.
Reproductive healthcare.
Very mealy-mouthed, evasive language, because it's horror.
tim pool
And Republicans only ever react to it.
They never, you never get, I suppose the Libertarians are starting to see this more, but, you know, the good example is Republicans saying, we've compromised with Democrats to give Democrats what they wanted.
And I'm like, why didn't the Democrats compromise with you to give Republicans what they wanted?
Why is it that Republicans... How many Republicans are willing to say, we will repeal the National Firearms Act?
A small handful in the Freedom Caucus?
Almost all... Like, Republicans are Democrat-like.
seamus coughlin
Yes.
unidentified
Oh, absolutely.
tim pool
Democrats demand what they want, Republicans say, yeah, but a little bit slower.
frank quite frankly valbiro
But, getting back to our Russian doll decentralization talk from before, the National Firearms Act, Missouri, states like Missouri have passed things in state that pretty much make the declaration they will not be acknowledging any federal legislation on guns.
Anything whatsoever.
And that's the way to do it.
Same thing that goes with healthcare.
We are not going to be participating in any of this Obamacare stuff, whatever.
The problem is that the states, even though there are people in every state that understand that this is the way it should be, and that there should be like a line item veto on all this stuff, and say, no thanks DC, you got nothing over here.
The problem is, we are a nation of addicts, and that goes right up to the state governments, addicted on these federal block grants, monies that should never ever been dispersed for programs that should have never been started.
You don't want to go along with our firearm legislation, you don't want to go along with health care, then we're taking your highway funds, we're taking this and social security, and all of a sudden you're never winning elections again because you have made people who are now in like the third generation of dependency, Where are you gonna get that money from?
tim pool
It's funny because that's the IMF standard as well.
Go to these countries and say the exact same thing.
Oh, you want the funding for your highways?
You better do as we say.
We gotta get rid of that politician.
You want the billion dollar loan guarantees?
Come on man, you gotta fire the prosecutor!
frank quite frankly valbiro
And they lose their autonomy.
You just had Larry Sharp on the show, right?
Larry, he's been on my show a couple times too, and he, I love his thoughts about how to really improve in-state tuition, in-state education in New York.
And of course, it all comes down to first, how do we get off the federal dole?
Because if we don't get off of the methadone drip, we're never going to be independent enough to make any decisions.
tim pool
Here's the challenge.
Larry Sharp seems like a good guy.
We've had him a couple times.
I dig him.
But when he says to me that You know, 60% of people in New York City believe in, you know, they want gun control, and I have to convince them to vote for me, otherwise I can't do anything.
My attitude is like, you know, all you're really telling me is that you're doing the same thing to me.
That you're telling me here's the idea to solve the problems, but you're probably just trying to tell me what I want to hear so that I vote for you.
Right?
That's the reality.
frank quite frankly valbiro
The reality is, and it's tricky, I know what you're talking about, where do you start?
I have a lot of friends who are anarcho-capitalists.
They believe in stateless society, governed by nothing but non-aggressions principle, and I understand the reasoning for it all.
And I could live in a world like that.
tim pool
Any utopian vision like that exists so long as you have a homogenized culture.
Communism would work really, really well if everyone agreed communism was the best system.
The only problem is, at scale, You can't achieve that, so the communists start killing people en masse who oppose their control.
Humans are not... like, they just don't line up like lemmings.
The same thing is true for the non-aggression principle, utopian, laissez-faire capitalist society.
Yeah, someone's gonna seek to exploit it and destroy it, and then it'll be conflict.
frank quite frankly valbiro
Right.
tim pool
So it's hard to ever get to those ends.
frank quite frankly valbiro
And that's why I always said with them, I understand where you're coming from because they'll ask me, Frank, why do you still vote?
Why do you still believe in even in minarchism?
Why do you believe in the Constitution?
It always ends up, I say, well, well, here's the thing.
Here's, we'll have a chance to try out the stateless society thing if there is a giant, there's a 95% of the world is just destroyed by an asteroid or a virus or whatever the hell else like it's the stand.
Well, you'll have a shot.
You'll have a shot to check out your stateless society.
Other than that, there's only one way you can even try, try, harkening back to what we were talking about with Larry Sharp, there's only one way you can even try is to start nudging the needle.
You have to start walking back.
Eventually you'll walk through the threshold of the Constitution again.
Thomas Jefferson thought that the Constitution as a nucleus, that's actually the centrist Position.
Traditionally American.
Centrist position.
It's the Constitution.
Thomas Jefferson and some others actually thought that we would be able to evolve intellectually to even go away with less.
Less than the Constitution.
tim pool
We'd be able to- Someone in a monarchy in the United States.
frank quite frankly valbiro
Well, yeah, there's that.
ian crossland
I think we do.
We don't really need a House of Representatives because we can represent ourselves.
We have the power and the technology to have our own voices heard and our own beliefs, you know, put out there for like a Reddit-style upvote-downvote system.
frank quite frankly valbiro
Yeah.
tim pool
Except direct democracy doesn't work.
ian crossland
No, it'd be more of a repo- Well, that's why I talk about, like, um, having, like, uh, smart contracts that do the votes for us, so, like, you'd still have a check there, so, like, uh, 700,000 people would vote yes or no on a thing, and then it would go to their little smart contract, which would say Y or N, depending if it was a yes or no, and then there'd be 430 other smart contracts all going off, so it's not- I- I- Not the whole mob can't get anything done.
tim pool
I like the attempt.
But it doesn't solve the same problem that is Nancy Pelosi and AOC will win no matter how stupid, vapid, or corrupt they are.
ian crossland
Mob mentality is always dangerous, even in our system.
tim pool
So that issue isn't solved by your proposal.
ian crossland
No, I don't think we can solve mob mentality.
tim pool
So the issue is, what you've proposed presents us with the exact same problem, potentially worse.
The majority will just vote for whatever nonsense they think from the media, regardless of if it's true or not.
I'll tell you this too.
Congress doesn't represent people very well.
It's not even about that.
Here's what'll happen.
If we do a direct representative vote where it's like you're in New York's 14 and they
say, New York 14 cast your vote on HR 1781 in the federal government.
Then AOC comes out and she does her tour and tells everyone vote yes, vote yes, vote yes,
and they go whatever you say AOC.
So it's the exact same system.
ian crossland
You mean if she's not in Congress?
tim pool
If you get rid of Congress and say everyone... Say there's no House.
ian crossland
Still a Senate, still a Senate.
tim pool
You will end up with evangelists like AOC in the exact same position.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And she would hold meetings.
ian crossland
Or Seth Rogen or, you know, whoever.
Just mouthpieces of people using mass media to manipulate you, me.
tim pool
And then you'd end up with the exact same issue.
Either we vote for them or we vote for the issues they want.
They'll get what they want.
frank quite frankly valbiro
Well, if you were able to make some kind of correction, a course correction to how we are able to operate on a federal level and the state level, which is completely divest from the federal leviathan that is almost wholly illegitimate.
But on the state level, here's the thing that usually happens.
You look at California, you look at Vermont, you have these places that are cobalt blue.
They still can't pass universal health care.
Because once you relegate something to the states, even the most progressive commie nut is going to have to sit down and say, we don't have the money for this.
You know, when you're able to steal from 49 other states, I mean you can do it and it's not even that as much as it
is charging it to the central bank.
ian crossland
Yeah.
frank quite frankly valbiro
It's such a scam.
Oh man, that's the real thing here.
The most progressive person becomes conservative when you localize decision making and you'll
actually gain inroads with other people who want to fix problems.
Nobody wants to see older Americans, younger Americans, you know, being left out in the cold when it comes to Medicare or anything, or medicine and health care or anything like that.
It's just that we've dehumanized each other and we're fighting over the same three levers on a federal level.
It's not supposed to be that way.
And the dehumanization is the worst part about all of this.
ian crossland
I think it doesn't always get more conservative as you go more local, because like, I don't know if you're familiar with Shays' Rebellion.
Right after the Union was formed, basically right after the revolution, I think it was in Massachusetts, they needed to pay back debt, foreign debt, and they needed hard currency, which is metal.
There was soft currency, which is like barter, that will send you corn.
They told their farmers who are all these returning war vets from the Revolutionary War and that had missed like three seasons of harvest, we need your hard currency to pay back.
The farmer's like, we don't have hard currency.
We don't have metal.
They're like, well, we need it.
So give it to us or we're going to throw you in jail.
So the state government started throwing their own farmers in jail.
The farmers went to the courthouse and rebelled.
They threw more people in jail.
And that's when the federal government realized we need like an overprotection to make sure that states don't abuse their own people.
tim pool
Yeah, like some kind of banking system at the federal level that would help regulate when these currency fluctuations, like a federal, like a reserve of some sort.
ian crossland
More like a National Guard that can stop rogue states from abusing their own populace.
tim pool
Or stop Shays' Rebellion from ever happening again.
ian crossland
Um, they, they, they actually pardoned a lot.
It was John Hancock.
He pardoned a lot of those people, which is something I think they should do.
It's kind of like a J6 thing.
Like they went to the courthouse to protest and then they got thrown in and Hancock was like, yeah, it's done.
We're moving on as a, as a union.
Let them out.
frank quite frankly valbiro
Well, your point is more on the level of money or on the level of protesting?
ian crossland
That if you get rid of a federal government, that a state government can still become totalitarian.
frank quite frankly valbiro
Oh, sure.
They can right now.
ian crossland
Yeah, yeah.
But at least we have a federal guard to protect crazy localities.
frank quite frankly valbiro
That's not even... It would really be... I don't know.
I don't know.
You're talking about if Connecticut went to war with Rhode Island?
ian crossland
If Connecticut started throwing people in gas chambers.
frank quite frankly valbiro
Oh, well this is just crazy.
ian crossland
Yeah, that would be an extreme example.
Over what, though?
Money.
Say people were not paying debts in Massachusetts and they started imprisoning their people in the American government.
frank quite frankly valbiro
Well, that happens right now.
If you don't pay your taxes, you lose your house.
I mean, there's a lot of things that happen.
It's horrible.
tim pool
You know what I think we should do?
frank quite frankly valbiro
What?
tim pool
I think Delaware should be forced to become part of Maryland and Rhode Island should be forced to become part of Massachusetts.
frank quite frankly valbiro
Delaware was originally part of Pennsylvania.
In fact, after 76, when everybody was declaring independence, there was 13 declarations.
In fact, Delaware declared independence from Pennsylvania as well.
tim pool
How small is Delaware?
I feel like I drive through it in five minutes whenever I come down here.
Because that's about right.
It's tiny.
back into the into the larger state and then oh four senators are gone how small
frank quite frankly valbiro
is Delaware I feel like I drive through it in five minutes whenever I come down
unidentified
here cuz that's about right it's incredible wrote I go look at Rhode
ian crossland
Island yeah I like a city It was a plantation in the Constitution.
They're like, Rhode Island and the plantation next to it.
tim pool
Yeah, it's original name was like one representative.
And now they get two senators.
And I love it when the left is like, all of these empty red states get all the senators.
And I'm like, I kind of feel like a state that that manages large swaths of land is more entitled to that than one city on the East Coast.
Like, Providence is, Rhode Island is basically a city.
And they get, it's a city that gets two senators.
And I'm just like, nah.
Look, you want to play this game of like, red states don't deserve senators or whatever, then I'll play the game too.
A single city like Wilmington, they get two senators?
Nah, sorry.
frank quite frankly valbiro
Oh, Delaware's 1,982 square miles.
ian crossland
Oh, Delaware's 1,982 square miles.
96 miles long from somewhere.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
That's that's north to south.
East to west, like what, like 10?
frank quite frankly valbiro
I must have cut a corner then.
tim pool
Well no, when you drive through in the east coast, it's like 20.
Yeah, you're right, 20.
Yeah, based on the math.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
So, but look at Rhode Island.
frank quite frankly valbiro
There are people who own ranches in like Montana that are bigger than Rhode Island.
tim pool
Right.
Easily.
ian crossland
It's hard to undo what's been done.
That's the problem.
tim pool
That's our problem.
How big is Rhode Island?
ian crossland
Rhode Island.
unidentified
What?
ian crossland
Okay, let me do this here.
tim pool
10 feet.
ian crossland
Yeah, it says it's a 58 foot termite.
I don't know what I'm reading.
unidentified
What?
seamus coughlin
There's gotta be something else.
ian crossland
Give me a size, fool.
tim pool
All right, I'll pull this up.
ian crossland
Thanks.
tim pool
Road Island.
ian crossland
Geez, it's small.
tim pool
What is it?
ian crossland
Oh, I'm just looking at it.
frank quite frankly valbiro
Neither a road or an island.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
frank quite frankly valbiro
Disgusting.
seamus coughlin
Who do they think they are?
ian crossland
1,200 square miles?
tim pool
48 miles by 48 by 37.
That's it.
1,214 square miles.
frank quite frankly valbiro
That's a parking lot.
tim pool
That's a parking lot.
And they get two senators.
The name of it is the Colony of Rhode Island and Providence Plantations.
frank quite frankly valbiro
You see, and that's fine.
Again, you say, oh, well, there's nobody in Wyoming.
Why do they have, you know, blah blah blah, and why can they be a part of a thing that stops us from achieving one thing or another?
The only people, the only people who talk like that are these crazy statists that want to do things that are just not in the mandate, not in the charter for the federal government.
That's just it.
unidentified
It's...
frank quite frankly valbiro
That's just, it doesn't matter how much farmland there is over the heart of America.
Los Angeles and California, do whatever the hell you want.
ian crossland
Is it like a per capita?
Maybe we could do our representatives more based on per capita than total population because like when you have a thousand people all stacked on top of each other, it's not really as cool as a thousand people over like a 60 square mile radius.
tim pool
What do you mean?
That's what we do with representatives.
ian crossland
Yeah.
Per capita?
tim pool
Yes.
So you get a rep for every 750,000.
People you're talking about but I'm saying that maybe the size of the area where those 750,000 people live should be taken into account when calculating the amount of Representatives, this is like a bigger space of 700,000 people is a little bit more inclusive than a small space with 700,000 people those people are more manipulable They have more groupthink I guess I think the issue is the power goes out for instance like Rhode Island is a single city basically Like, I say that essentially, but, you know, there's more than just Providence, but it's still, like, you look at New York and how different it is from New York City up to Upstate and all the other cities in the rural areas.
frank quite frankly valbiro
You look at Rhode Island, it's just like... To be honest, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's district, I think it's like the 17th or the 14th.
I think I'm the 17th.
14th. I think I'm the 17th.
The 14th, I got my own problems.
But the 14th, there's like there's close to 750,000 people there.
Now, the Constitution, again, we're talking about that a lot tonight.
30,000, one representative per 30,000.
There should be, I mean, you do the division.
tim pool
There should be 20 reps in her district, I'm sorry, 25, about 25 reps coming from her district.
unidentified
Yeah.
frank quite frankly valbiro
I mean, think about the absurdity of thinking that she, that pea brain, Represents the interests of over 700,000 people and I'll tell you something else in that district I mean in that clump of that that population right there.
ian crossland
It's not gonna be all Democrat Every single Republican in her district voted the Republican would win dude imagine if I had to represent you guys if I had to go somewhere and represent Tim Seamus and you like I I I can't.
What would I say?
Like, yeah, well, I think that Frank thinks this, and Tim thinks this, and I can't represent someone else.
I can't do it.
I can only represent myself.
tim pool
Listen, in the general election, AOC got 152,661 votes.
He didn't even vote for himself?
The r slash conservative party got 58,440 and then the right and Republican zero amazing and
He didn't even vote for himself. Like I said not what a joke out of seven hundred thousand people
25 percent are Republican It's a D plus 25.
So that means you would have, what does that give you?
210,000 Republicans.
If every single Republican in AOC's district voted, it would have defeated AOC.
But they don't vote at all.
And the Republicans won't go in and even bother with trying to get people to vote.
ian crossland
Because they're getting paid, baby.
They gotta make some money for the re-election.
tim pool
I should stop and say, it's not fair to say it's 25% Republican.
Because it's probably like 18 or 19% Republican, and then you've got other political parties in there as well.
ian crossland
It's probably more progressive.
It shouldn't be a career, man.
I'm just so fed up with career politicians that it's even thought of that it's a career opportunity or option.
It's insane.
No salaries.
Yeah, no salaries.
tim pool
No, but then only rich people could do it.
seamus coughlin
No salaries, but you are allowed to do insider trading.
ian crossland
You could pay the bills of the people, like all the travel, all the lodging.
tim pool
Only rich people would do it then.
ian crossland
Oh, because you've got to pay for their time off work?
tim pool
Because people have to leave work to go do it, so we compensate them.
These are the tough challenges.
I think it's really simple, Frank.
I think what we do is, as soon as you get elected, no matter which, so you're in Congress, you get four years guaranteed.
You're in the Senate, you get six years guaranteed.
The President, let's say, let's say you get two terms.
frank quite frankly valbiro
I'm down for one term of six years with the President.
tim pool
All right, let's say that.
Once you're done, you get shipped off to the island, never to be seen again.
There's no technology.
There's no electricity.
We just, a helicopter flies over and they just push you out of the parachute.
And that's it.
frank quite frankly valbiro
Like in Chile.
tim pool
Thank you for serving.
No, no, you have a parachute.
Like, the point is go live on the island.
Far away.
Greenland.
You get forced to go live in Greenland.
You can't live here anymore.
Then the only people... Nah, it still wouldn't work.
I know it's a funny joke.
But then what would happen is rich people would be like, if you do it, I will give you a family $5 million.
And they'll be like, I'll do anything for my family.
And then they do what they're told and they get ejected.
frank quite frankly valbiro
It's like an episode of Blacklist.
tim pool
Demarchy is an interesting idea.
Demarchy is where people get Congress duty.
So it's like you go to the mailbox and you got like a certified letter and it's like, or the mail person comes up, I have a certified letter.
Can you sign for it?
You sign for it.
It's like Congress duty and you go, ugh.
I gotta go to D.C., honey.
I have Congress duty, I guess.
And then you go down, and then there's an adversarial, you know, attempt.
Like, you know, two politicians will then be like, how do you feel about this?
How do you feel about that?
And they're like, okay, we agree with this guy.
And then you get approved for Congress duty, and you serve for a few months in D.C.
And they're like, here are the bills we're passing.
Here are the bills we're writing.
That's Denmark-y.
frank quite frankly valbiro
Okay.
seamus coughlin
Here's the thing.
So like, I was so I think you'd get like you do now.
tim pool
And then when you come home, your neighbors are going to be looking at you like, what did you do?
seamus coughlin
So here's why I don't think we should do something like that because people are going to be going in there completely disinterested, not wanting to be there making stupid decisions as a result.
I mean, we can only have that for jury duty when you're deciding whether or not someone committed a murder and you know, whether they're going to go to jail for the rest of their lives.
Not, not, not for anything else.
tim pool
A jury?
seamus coughlin
No, I mean, I'm making fun of the whole idea.
Like with jury duty, um, the fact that like jury duty is something people don't want to do.
I remember my dad telling this story.
He got selected for jury duty back in the eighties and one of the people, he, this guy was like, look, I have a business to run.
I don't want to do this.
So he wore an American flag tie.
He's like, there's no way they're going to pick me to be on this.
And they didn't because he had an American flag tie.
Really?
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
It's like a bias thing.
It's like, Oh, this guy's conservative.
Um, there was another lady.
They're asking him questions and there's this old lady.
They know nothing about the case at this point or what case they're being selected for.
And they ask her, do you believe in the death penalty?
And she goes, yes, and I think he should get it.
tim pool
So they're like, you can leave, man.
unidentified
Across the board.
frank quite frankly valbiro
Whoever it is, they deserve it.
tim pool
And then it's like, ma'am, do you know who the defendant is?
No.
And then they look over, it's like an identical little old lady.
ian crossland
Frank, I thought you were right on the president six years and then he's out or she's out because the whole wasting two years running for reelection insanity.
frank quite frankly valbiro
It's insane.
I mean, I think about what we got from what we got out of the the Trump the Trump first term there.
So much of it was, obviously he was learning the ropes, and he was learning just how bad it was around him, including his own staff.
He was surrounded by sharks.
But let's say that he had everything together.
Too many people play it timid.
in that first term because they just want to get to the second one and then maybe let their hair down a little bit.
I'd rather just see who a person is, let them get to work, let them fight their battles, and go for it.
I'm going to be against ninety percent of the things that they propose anyway, but I would much rather stop with the pussy footing.
tim pool
What if we just did this, here's an idea, what if we had like a group of individuals who really believed in this country and it was a private organization that you could enter in by swearing an oath to it and then they would just choose among their ranks who the chairman should be who will rule uh the country and it would be like a political party and then they can have their ideology as as like the name of their party oh yes of the country so like you know and then uh you have to swear allegiance and then
You know what else they could do?
They could put that party in every corporation as the answer to them, and that ensures loyalty to the centralized government.
seamus coughlin
I mean, it would build community, yeah.
tim pool
That's right!
Community, build community, and we could call it like a community.
Community-ism.
Or, it's too long.
ian crossland
How about communism?
tim pool
Communism.
frank quite frankly valbiro
How about we can call it Freemasonry as well?
seamus coughlin
Communism!
tim pool
Yes, yes, but but but people don't understand communism.
So we should just simplify the the vernacular by saying come no No, here's how here's that.
seamus coughlin
We'll do a little slogan.
So people feel like they're like you like communism instead of communism we When they select the senators, is that like a little communist dictatorship?
tim pool
I think the states should select the senators.
I think the 17th amendment is a mistake I remember reading something from Ben sass about that and I was like what and then I read and I was looking he's right and People don't care about their state elections anymore because everything's federal.
And then you get these politicians who are like, I'm running for Congress.
And if you vote for me, I'll clean up this town.
And it's like, bro, state level politicians clean up the town.
You go to DC.
You go to DC and talk about bombing kids.
The people we got to vote for here to clean up the city are the people who are going to represent the city.
But people don't get that anymore.
So the way it used to be, you'd vote for your state representative, then they would go and vote on who would represent the state to the federal government.
That made sense.
Then they were like, eh, let's do popular vote, and now it's a bunch of idiots voting for a bunch of other idiots.
ian crossland
Right, because their representatives would send their buddies to the Senate, and then their buddies in the Senate would do them a favor when they proposed a law and passed their law for them.
tim pool
And it's no better now.
So the amendment didn't fix any of the corruption problems.
ian crossland
They were like, let's have the people of the problem is the popularity contest and that they determine that they don't have term limits because you shouldn't be able to vote a popular senator back.
Yeah, I don't think yeah, it should be something like that even for there's so many of us now that want to participate that giving someone six freaking years you're going to be in your 30s by the time but that's the best part in if you really want to participate what you can do.
frank quite frankly valbiro
I mean it could be flipped like a switch at this point because it's on the books.
I mean, we've gone through at least 120 years of really bad, bad habits being instilled as American tradition at this point.
But if you really wanted to get involved locally, if you got onto your local city council, your town council, you want to become mayor, you become sheriff, You can turn things around in your state so much quicker than you can ever try to even... We shouldn't even be paying attention to the federal government.
If we all refocus on local elections and what they're doing, what people are proposing, and really hammer down on that, people have never been this activated and awake to what's going on.
If they can just be refocused locally, this whole thing could fall apart and it would literally be like defeating Freddy Krueger.
You just look, you just say, I don't believe in you.
I mean, it's all illegitimate.
It's all illegitimate.
tim pool
I think, you know, as I often talk about civil war and conflict, I think that that may end up happening.
But I do think that we are still winning.
And I'll break that down for you, what that means.
People are waking up, more and more people every single day.
Decentralized information is winning.
The ratings are collapsing for the mainstream networks.
They're losing trust.
Channels like ours are doing better and better and other networks are growing.
People are using decentralized sources of information.
We are winning.
But there is an effective internal Thucydides trap that will occur then.
When the growing culture is seeking to supplant the existing one, then you will likely end up with some kind of conflict.
So we have a culture war right now.
You have the establishment, which is completely in line with woke corporations and the woke activists in Antifa.
But it feels like they're losing.
They're becoming increasingly unhinged because of it, like firebombing pregnancy centers because they lost Roe v. Wade.
The freedom, the libertarian, the decentralized... The Roe v. Wade decision was ultimately a libertarian movement.
The federal government saying, we hereby rescind our authority over the states on this matter.
And that is a movement towards decentralization.
The left wanted the federal government to assert its authority to grant them what they wanted nationwide.
So ultimately, I think freedom and liberty are going to start winning.
Power is being rescinded, but the establishment is losing power, but they're going to thrash and get violent before the end comes.
ian crossland
I was thinking, like, what would the founding fathers, like, what would Jefferson and Ben Franklin do right now if they came here?
And I was like, guys, what, what do we do?
Like, or George Washington, they'd be like, dude, the corporations are way too powerful.
unidentified
I think we need to... I think they'd shoot themselves in the head.
frank quite frankly valbiro
Put themselves out of their misery.
ian crossland
No, they'd be excited.
They'd be like, dude, you got electricity still!
tim pool
We need to attach large cylindrical magnets to the bodies of the Founding Fathers' corpses because they're spinning in their graves so fast it would generate tons of free energy.
frank quite frankly valbiro
I think Ben Franklin would be into that.
I think that a lot more people than we think would come to a rallying call.
If we had George Washington come back Like the mensch that he was.
And he was just like, yo, we've got things to do.
I think that a lot more people would rally to that call than we think.
But they would also face real danger.
I mean, first of all, they would be reincarnated slave owners.
So the people would be like, finally, we have one!
You know, they're not just chasing ghosts anymore.
tim pool
The Founding Fathers would come back and be like, I don't like any of this.
And they would think everyone was crazy.
ian crossland
Yeah, too much corporations in the federal government.
They gotta, you gotta unwind the corporate power.
Like, when did corporations become people?
Well, that was, was that Glass, not Glass-Steagall?
tim pool
No, it was Mitt Romney.
He declared it.
He said, corporations are people, my friend.
And then instantly, corporations were.
ian crossland
Corporate law's a little nuts.
Dude, but speaking of... Well, there's a 101-year-old ex-Nazi that was sentenced to five years in prison for being a prison guard.
tim pool
So life.
unidentified
101 years older made life.
tim pool
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Let's read what we got.
No Quizada says, Tim, I wouldn't consider the far left to be pro-gun.
AOC and the squad are pretty anti-gun, but they're like, they're leftist and not, and, and, and somewhat far left, but the actual socialists, they have like the socialist rifle association.
Socialists and like the real revolutionary far left are pro-gun until they gain control and then they want to take your guns away.
ian crossland
Right.
tim pool
So it's not the same as how we're pro-gun.
We're like, people should be allowed.
Right.
All right.
ian crossland
What is this?
tim pool
Meta text as Tim Pool wakes up to a big bowl of Civil War-Os.
lydia smith
Oh.
tim pool
Civil War-O?
frank quite frankly valbiro
How often have you discussed how you see that even playing out in in my 800 times?
Okay, so then because I talk about it as well, too.
It's it's not it would never be anything like what we did before.
I mean, we should be pretty familiar with the the scenario because we these are the kind of conflicts that the CIA used to drum up in Africa and Middle East Operation Gladio type of stuff.
But like, what do you what do you think is most this is how it will play out?
tim pool
Oh, I don't know.
I think there's a whole bunch of different scenarios.
One of them is, we're already seeing it, states announcing they do not recognize the authority of the federal government.
So we have immigration laws.
California says we don't care.
It's not outright nullification.
It is, you know, sanctuary states.
Nullification would be California saying we will oppose the federal government trying to enforce these things.
Right now they're just kind of saying we won't assist you.
But we will actively, as a state, allow the defiance of federal law.
So we're halfway there.
That happens enough times.
Texas says, we do not see California's votes as legitimate because they're allowing non-citizens into the country, who then affect Congress and the electoral vote count.
So when that happens, then what do you do?
frank quite frankly valbiro
I don't know, I'll tell you.
I don't know, I speculated on it a lot and I think just because we're in the US, I mean, Waco, Ruby Ridge, that would be pretty much what we'd be looking at.
Central Power doesn't care about killing anybody.
tim pool
All right, let's read some more.
We got Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
says, Tim, I had an aunt who had Down syndrome.
She was a beautiful soul.
She was kind, always full of smiles.
She was the glue of my mother's side.
These people want her to have never felt love or give freely her love, her own love to us.
They are so much more than I have ever imagined.
Rip Aunt Judy.
And this is a reference to, I was doing a segment earlier about the Democrats funding the quote unquote far right.
And I read a story about Anna Navarro saying, I know exactly why we need abortion because I have a 57-year-old brother who's got the mentality of a one-year-old.
And I've got a family member who's got Down syndrome.
And I've got another family member and I was just like, so you're basically saying to kill these people.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
And here's the point I made, without getting into great detail.
Some people that I've known since I was very young were going to get married, and then
the guy's fiance got into a car accident and got a traumatic brain injury, and then was
paralyzed.
Partially paralyzed, traumatic brain injury, unable to live without assistance.
If you were to come to me and say, this person was born developmentally disabled, so we should
have aborted them, my question is, what would you say to someone who is 20 years old and
and gets smacked in the head with a baseball bat Should they be killed on the spot?
Should they not be alive?
It's a psychotic argument, and it's exactly why I'm sick to my stomach, because people like Anna Navarro saying this, She's not saying anything meaningful.
She's saying, I will say whatever it takes to support the pro-choice side or the pro-abortion side.
And then I'm like, look, I'm even, you know, old school pro-choice, but if you come out as a Democrat and say, they're talking about how their Down syndrome relative, people who live full, meaningful lives and have families and love should never have been allowed to have been alive.
I'm like, you're a psychopath.
You're a fascist.
You're a nut job.
seamus coughlin
Ultimately, I mean, to have that kind of mentality, you really do need to view human beings as things.
They're not their own individual person who matters as an end in and of themselves.
They're a thing, and that thing makes me feel uncomfortable, so we should just get rid of it, or it shouldn't even have been there in the first place.
tim pool
I just, I just, I just can't believe that more than once, Anna Navarro on CNN came out and said, I have disabled family members, therefore we should have abortion to kill them.
ian crossland
It harkens to when we were living in tribes in desperation, when like a sick person would hold the tribe back and maybe costed its lives.
Like if you can't move, if you can't hunt because somebody has a gimpy leg, then you've got to do something with that hunter that can't hunt anymore.
And a lot of times they would just kill them off.
tim pool
No, they wouldn't.
ian crossland
Oh, back in the day, if you had, like, a deformed child, they would kill it immediately.
tim pool
Humans are social beings who survive because we take care of those who are injured.
That's a fact.
ian crossland
But I'm not just talking about injury, I'm talking about, like, Spartans.
tim pool
There were certainly some cultures, like, sure, the Spartans, they would put the babies in the woods or whatever and they would be, like, but the, on average, Humanity survived by taking care of each other.
That's why we are socially driven beings.
Because a human who was left out to their own devices tended to die.
And the humans who tended to be social and stay within the tribe tended to live, because we protected each other.
The concept of insurance emerged because when we started building our own dwellings, if mine fell down, everyone else would come and help me rebuild it.
It was just a pact.
We wouldn't just be like, oh, you lost your house, now you're dead.
You're a drag on the society.
No, we helped them.
When someone's leg was broken, we made sure they survived.
That's reality.
frank quite frankly valbiro
I would say with this, I know you're really focusing on the horror of what Ana Navarro has said more than once now, and if you want a little bit more perspective as to the mindset from which this was born, have you covered at all what's going on with the euthanasia programs in Canada?
tim pool
No.
frank quite frankly valbiro
This is incredible.
I think it's called the MAID program or something.
M-A-I-D something.
But the euthanasia programs in Canada, the assisted suicide programs, they continue to expand to the point where they're making it available and they're starting to suggest this for people who aren't even terminally ill.
People who are in dire financial straits, quality of life when it comes to anxiety, anything like that.
And it's like that, it's that bad and worse.
So you go check that out.
And when I'm reading this and covering it as these articles come out from time to time, I say to myself, of course they are so flippant about human life here in the United States for the unborn.
Out of sight, out of mind.
If they're doing this with people who have been on the earth for decades already, A child that they have never seen before means nothing to them.
ian crossland
I should reiterate, I'm not talking about like someone that loses a leg and that you're like, you would help them, but like if a baby's born with no limbs and you only have a certain amount of food in the tribe to go around and everyone works to help the tribe survive, but this one can't, then they would make harsh Necessary choices about who to who to feed.
seamus coughlin
I mean, it's well, I would that depends very much too on the tribe and the civilization.
That's a yeah, I can make about early, right?
tim pool
We live in a place that would take healthy people and put them on an altar and like lop their heads off.
seamus coughlin
And we live in a society of luxury where we still kill people who we have determined to be inconvenient and there have been societies much poorer than ours who cared for those even when they were difficult.
ian crossland
Yeah, because of our luxury.
We really don't need to kill them as much.
frank quite frankly valbiro
Well, that's because No one does.
tim pool
Which is why it's even worse when N. Navarro is like, these people shouldn't be alive.
Let's read some more Super Chats.
Sorry, we'll move on.
We got...
unidentified
What?
tim pool
Ander Webb says, Heads up, the California AG just leaked the addresses of
every registered firearm owner in the state.
ian crossland
Wow.
tim pool
John...
Josh Froman says, You absolutely are allowed to brew your own wine.
You can make wine out of almost anything.
It's a fun hobby and lots of people enjoy.
However, you can't make your own whiskey.
seamus coughlin
And so I'm actually really bitter about that, which is why I don't want to see people happy making their own wine.
That's why I wanted to stop Tim.
tim pool
Wine, wine.
We have wine berries.
So cool.
So, they're like raspberries.
But they're a little harder, you know?
Raspberries are kind of mushy and soft and break apart.
These ones are a little stronger.
ian crossland
I bet they'd be really good dried.
Like dehydrated wine berries.
tim pool
Oh yeah, super good.
Well, they're starting to blossom.
I was walking down the driveway, and I grabbed a couple.
Pop them right in your mouth.
The funny thing is, there are these little bugs that sometimes live in them.
frank quite frankly valbiro
Oh, great.
tim pool
And they're like, they're actually really, they're like yellow, and they're actually really cute.
They have little arms, and they'll start waving at you, and you eat them.
unidentified
Wow!
And you're like, ha ha ha!
frank quite frankly valbiro
Until they get into your brain.
Like an earwig.
seamus coughlin
Tim is actually controlled by the bugs.
That's why he wears the beanie, so you can't see.
tim pool
There's a bunch of them.
But, uh, you get a little extra protein in your wine barrel, you know?
We need to get those long-armed things that, like... Oh, we found a turtle yesterday!
ian crossland
Nice.
tim pool
Yeah, a little box turtle.
But you can't keep them as pets, they don't survive well.
So we just had to, he was under one of the skate ramps, almost got crushed, I was worried.
So we took him out and we put him in the woods.
There was a bigger one apparently.
They're everywhere, we got turtles everywhere.
frank quite frankly valbiro
Chinese box turtles?
tim pool
I have no idea.
seamus coughlin
Uh oh.
tim pool
We got Chinese stink bugs everywhere.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
tim pool
Those things are awful.
You see them?
ian crossland
Special thanks to China.
tim pool
You got them in New York?
frank quite frankly valbiro
We do have stink bugs in New York.
I don't know if they're Chinese though.
ian crossland
It's that brown marmaladed one.
tim pool
Yeah.
ian crossland
You'll know them if you see them.
tim pool
And they're everywhere.
ian crossland
It's like an invasive species.
They came in like the 90s into Pennsylvania they arrived.
I think they were planted there by something.
frank quite frankly valbiro
Did you guys have any of that weird infestation that came through us?
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
The spotted fly.
Those are weird.
tim pool
Yup.
It's fun to go out and smoosh them.
Alright, let's see what we got here.
Let's see, Super Arrow says, I'm a home brewer from Ohio.
Ever since you first mentioned the wine berries, I thought it would be interesting to make wine from them.
Maybe we could make a Timcast special wine and do a segment on it.
How do, so here's the funny thing.
You're driving down the road outside of, you know, Western Maryland or whatever, West Virginia.
I watch people pull their car out of the shoulder and grab a handful of wine berries and get back in their car.
No joke.
Cause they're literally everywhere.
You turn out on the highway out here and you can fill up probably like, A ten-gallon bag in a few minutes.
I'm exaggerating, but maybe like a half an hour.
You're gonna fill up, you know, a huge bag.
frank quite frankly valbiro
That's like... Have you ever been to Acadia Park in Maine?
Oh, it's beautiful.
And the blueberries everywhere.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
frank quite frankly valbiro
People get out on the side of the mountain, and they're just bags of blueberries.
tim pool
We got pawpaw in September, October 2.
You know pawpaw?
Yes.
I thought there was going to be very, very little, because we couldn't see any.
And then I was mistaken, because at the end of September, you walk into the woods and you're getting hit in the head by them as they fall.
And it's like, take five minutes and you've got like 50 pawpaw.
And I'm like, I don't even know what we're going to do with it.
It's delicious, by the way.
Ian made a bread.
ian crossland
Yeah, it's good.
tim pool
All right.
IncompetentHands30 says, huge fan of Quite Frankly and Timcast, this is awesome.
Tim, did you ever get a haircut from a Russian at the Palisades Center?
If so, did you feel cursed asking for a friend?
I have no idea what that means, what is that?
frank quite frankly valbiro
Okay, when I went to the Palisades Mall when I was 15 years old, we all went to Supercuts,
and I'm getting my hair cut, and this Russian guy is on top of me,
and he's going, oh, you know, you're losing your hair a little bit or something.
I said, no, I'm not, I'm not losing my hair, what are you kidding me?
And so he's telling me, and I guess he must have seen something,
and I started getting a little bit agitated, because I just wanted a haircut and be left alone.
And he said, what, you can't have everything?
And he starts like, I don't know, trying to be very flippant about it.
So now I get tormented about the Russians.
I just shaved my head now, it doesn't matter.
ian crossland
I got a theory about that.
They say it's genetic, passed down from the grandma, male pattern baldness.
I think it's the temperature of the shower that you are taught as a kid is the normal temperature.
And if it's too hot, it singes the follicles.
unidentified
So I just think that's not true.
ian crossland
Well, you got it.
If the water's too hot, it'll strip the oil out.
tim pool
I don't take hot showers.
ian crossland
Your idea of hot could be different than my idea of hot.
tim pool
I take lukewarm, like, yeah.
I have a higher than normal body temperature.
ian crossland
Dude, did Elon Musk get hair implants?
Because he has like a full luscious head of hair now.
tim pool
Also, my grandfather had a full head of hair.
Whole life.
lydia smith
Skips generational.
frank quite frankly valbiro
Yeah, well, it doesn't matter to me.
My grandfather had no hair.
That means it should skip and boom.
tim pool
It's meaningless.
It's all nonsense.
seamus coughlin
Don't they say it comes from the mother's side, right?
ian crossland
Hot showers, man.
tim pool
That's just not true.
It's my theory.
ian crossland
It's my working hypothesis.
tim pool
It may be due to a high-fat diet.
ian crossland
That causes it to fall out.
tim pool
So I was reading, uh, in Japan, before the Americans came in and introduced a high-fat diet, they didn't have male pattern baldness, and now they do.
unidentified
Huh.
tim pool
Yeah.
But let's read some more Super Chats, because we got a good one.
frank quite frankly valbiro
Indeed.
tim pool
Kintoki says, that's not Ian Crossland, that's Chicken Ian!
Show us your rot collection.
ian crossland
Kintoki!
tim pool
If you go over to chickencitylive.com, there is a new cartoon up.
We asked an artificial intelligence to write a story about Ian Chickens in the Federal Reserve, and it wrote us the synopsis of a story, so we animated it, and it's actually really, really funny.
So, uh, chickencitylab.com, it just brings you to the YouTube channel, and then you can see the video, and it's really funny.
Ian is a chicken, and he's going to school, and he gets bullied.
ian crossland
Someone's listening.
tim pool
Yeah, it was a funny bit.
seamus coughlin
It was pretty funny, yeah.
tim pool
I remember I typed in the AI, I was like, tell me a story about these things.
And then when it popped up, I started laughing and I sent it to Kent, our animator.
And then I was like, dude, we should turn this into a cartoon.
ian crossland
Brilliant.
tim pool
Yeah.
All right.
Let's see what we got.
BC says, Tim, great to see Frank on the show.
You should get Matt Christensen and Blonde next.
Absolutely.
They're both welcome at any time.
lydia smith
Always welcome.
tim pool
Yeah.
We should reach out and see if they're ever available to come on.
They do their own show.
So, you know.
frank quite frankly valbiro
All right.
Matt's a good buddy of mine, too.
tim pool
He's up in the middle of nowhere, though, isn't he?
seamus coughlin
I did their show a number of times years ago, and then it just fell off.
They're great, though.
They're great.
ian crossland
Yeah, they were early adopters of mine.
I've known them for like a decade.
tim pool
All right.
Cody Bridger says, I'm a winemaker who has practiced around the world, and I'm currently in Washington.
I would love to help you with Wineberry Wine.
I'll talk to the currency if anyone's interested in how you actually do that.
What do you do?
Just mash them up, put them in a cask, and forget about it?
Is that how it works?
ian crossland
Forget about it.
tim pool
Forget about it.
And then come back later and you're like, hey, that's alcohol.
ian crossland
The only thing you do is forget about it.
tim pool
All right.
Coeus Veritas says, Hey Tim, I work for a brewery, and in the past week we have seen grain prices go up 45%.
Beer shortages may be on the horizon, and if you think people are mad when there is no food to eat, just wait until there's no beer.
Yo, we do these shipments every quarter or so, where we get like hundreds of cans of beer.
We're about overdue, because people love it.
We get like local brewery stuff.
seamus coughlin
Well, since I've been here, it hasn't been enough, no matter how much they order.
tim pool
We're out, aren't we?
We need to get more.
lydia smith
I think we are.
seamus coughlin
We've been out for a while.
tim pool
We've been out for a while.
Yeah, and Chamis, he's fighting the habit, so he didn't tell us.
But the price has been going up ridiculously.
seamus coughlin
Oh, I believe it.
I guess I... I hadn't noticed because you were buying it.
No, but that's... I believe it.
Everything... I mean, all food's gonna get more expensive.
tim pool
Can you make beer from walnut trees?
I don't know.
frank quite frankly valbiro
I feel like you can make this out of everything.
I've heard people making really weird concoctions, and as long as you can ferment it somehow... You can eat dandelions!
tim pool
I learned that from Ian.
And then I started looking up, in Appalachia, dandelions are like a common thing.
frank quite frankly valbiro
Wait, the actual flower?
tim pool
The actual flower, when it's yellow, you take the head off, and you fry it, and you eat it, and supposedly it tastes like mushrooms.
frank quite frankly valbiro
Oh, see, I...
tim pool
Okay, well- Dandelions were brought here by the pilgrims for medicinal uses.
And now there are weed everywhere.
frank quite frankly valbiro
My grandparents used to send me and my brother out into the driveway to pick the dandelion leaves to make salads.
Like it's a- Really?
Yeah, it's a depression- like a depression measure.
tim pool
Oh, wow.
No, you eat the heads, though.
frank quite frankly valbiro
I didn't know about the flowers.
The actual leaves, though, man, they're a little bit bitter, but you toss them into a salad bowl, a little bit of vinegar, a little bit of oil, and you're good to go.
tim pool
I got dandelion tea, because Ian mentioned it.
Oh, it's so good.
It's the best tea I've ever had.
No joke.
frank quite frankly valbiro
Detox.
ian crossland
It's like a vanilla dandelion tea.
unidentified
Yeah, it was amazing.
tim pool
All right, let's grab some more Super Chats.
Miguel Lopez says, thanks for having Frank on your podcast.
A lot of my favorite peeps crossing over.
It confirms I'm listening to the best of minds on the net.
You know it!
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Let's grab some more.
We got a bunch of angry people insulting me, insulting me.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Nate says, does anyone remember the old Bible man show?
Because Tim describing that episode in the Orville makes me think of it.
They went to woke and now they're slow, slowly going broke.
Yeah.
The Orville used to have jokes in it.
The new season has no jokes in it.
It's weird.
ian crossland
That is weird.
tim pool
I feel like Seth MacFarlane just wanted to beat Captain Picard.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, 100%.
tim pool
And so they were like, the only way he could do it is if you do a comedy, and he was like, alright, we'll put jokes in it.
And now that he's got a new deal on Hulu, it's called New Horizons, and there's no jokes, and it's just really dry.
I'm like, it doesn't work, you guys.
ian crossland
I tried to watch Kimmel the other night.
It was Chelsea Mandler as the host and it was just, oh, Democrat.
She's immediately started talking about politics, like within like 10 words, it was politics.
frank quite frankly valbiro
The most important things that she's done in the last 10 years, she didn't even know that it was good.
She had this guy on from the Department of Energy right around the time that Stranger Things came out around 2018, whatever it was.
And he was talking about, he made an admission that they dabble in other parallel universes and stuff.
And of course she made some, whoa, trippy LSD comment about it.
Like, this is a goldmine!
Ask him real questions!
It's the best thing she ever did.
Now she just slurs the rest of the way.
tim pool
All right.
Phil Nye says, long-time girlfriend just got her tubes tied due to the Roe v. Wade decision, so now I'm single.
She's in a cult and everyone seems blind to it.
seamus coughlin
I'm sorry to hear that, man, but good for you for getting out of that.
tim pool
It's like IUDs exist.
frank quite frankly valbiro
Terrible.
tim pool
You know?
Whatever, man.
All right, let's see what we got.
David Toronto says, the protest didn't work.
They overturned Roe v. Wade, they overturned the guns, they overturned the coach praying.
That's right.
seamus coughlin
What a fashion country where a coach is allowed to pray.
tim pool
The craziest thing is how they lie about the main ruling and the coach ruling.
I'm seeing memes pop up on Facebook where they're like, the Supreme Court has just ruled
that school officials can lead children in prayer.
Now it's time to bring in the Satanism, blah blah blah.
I'm like, no they didn't.
They ruled that a single person minding their own business can pray while they're at work.
Not in a school.
ian crossland
How was that ever not possible anyway?
tim pool
Dude said he wanted to pray at the 50 yard line or something.
They said, hey, you can't do that.
He said, okay, I'll stop praying.
He said, no, you're fired anyway.
And then he went, okay, well, I'm suing you.
The dude actually was like, I will stop doing this, but they fired him anyway.
The court said, you can't tell someone not to pray.
That's insane.
frank quite frankly valbiro
Especially since he wasn't leading children in the play.
ian crossland
Yeah, he was just personally... But because he was on the 50-yard line, it was like a public display.
frank quite frankly valbiro
It was after the game.
tim pool
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
His mistake, you know, if he'd led children through a transition or something, right?
Like, that would be completely fine.
Groomed them in some way, that would be fine.
But praying?
Oh my goodness.
Heavens forbid.
tim pool
This is an important one.
Mahil says, when will Tim get to do the Bill Gates voice on a Freedom Tune?
seamus coughlin
Oh my gosh, that's a good question.
We wrote one that would never be allowed on YouTube.
I should say, you pitched an idea to me that would never ever be allowed on YouTube.
Did I?
Yeah, the one where he's got the app on his phone.
Oh yeah, that one's so good!
Maybe we'll make that for the Freedom Tunes Behind the Paywall thing.
tim pool
Should we just tell the joke?
seamus coughlin
No, because you'll get booted off.
They'll never allow it.
I don't even think we can say it.
tim pool
Really?
seamus coughlin
I don't even think we can say it.
No, no.
I really don't.
I think they would nuke this stream.
tim pool
It's really good, too.
seamus coughlin
It's pretty funny.
tim pool
It would be a really great skit.
It's like three minutes long.
frank quite frankly valbiro
We'll make it.
seamus coughlin
You and I will make it.
frank quite frankly valbiro
Don't they nuke you for activity off platform, too?
seamus coughlin
Not really.
ian crossland
None of those Patreon that did that.
tim pool
The gag is basically about Bill Gates.
It's about cell phones.
It's about cell technology.
It's about vaccines.
ian crossland
People are going to freedomtunes.com and signing up right now.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, yeah, go over to freedomtunes.com and become a member.
tim pool
We can record it afterwards and just do it.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, yeah, we should work on it.
It's a good bit.
It is a really good bit.
tim pool
Yeah, it's a good rule of threes.
All right.
seamus coughlin
Well, now you spoiled it by telling them the rule of threes is involved.
ian crossland
Okay, okay.
tim pool
Decide Thought says, I saw that Orville episode.
I think of it backwards.
It wasn't about Trump winning, but about the deceptive, destructive, and divisive nature of the Democrats and how they intentionally make peace seem evil.
Maybe, but it was like, the moderate candidate who was supposed to win lost because of influence campaigns, and then the polling was showing that this moderate was gonna win, and then when the populist wins, literally executes the moderate.
Like, you watch them do it, they're like, what have you done?
And then she's like, now I will kill all of you!
It's like, okay...
seamus coughlin
They wouldn't make our planet great again.
tim pool
The planet is a religious zealous planet that worship is there's their deity Avis.
They have their own Bible.
And they're like we are the pure and like we are the chosen people so we can't allow these other societies in.
Krill first.
And it's like, eh.
seamus coughlin
Make Avis great again.
I was like, I was a little on the nose.
No, I think it's funny though.
tim pool
The female who was leading the, her name is Talia.
unidentified
And she talks like this, I am the greatest, I am the greatest grill.
seamus coughlin
I will say this, not a big fan of, I've only seen a few episodes, but for all of its flaws, it is much more similar to Star Trek than anything being produced under the name of Star Trek right now.
tim pool
It's funny and sad.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
All right.
What do we got yet?
The Bros Durham says the Seven Cities area in Virginia is bigger than Rhode Island.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
That's right.
Alexander Nelson says, I disagree.
Here is how we take care of congressional salaries.
They make the medium, you mean median wage, of the state district they're representing.
This will cause politicians to actually have those they represent best interest in mind.
I like that.
I disagree, I think it'll mean only rich people run.
frank quite frankly valbiro
Oh, the median?
tim pool
How can you afford a residence in D.C.?
There's members of Congress who sleep in their offices on the floor.
And then they get yelled at because you're not allowed to do it.
Because they can't afford to pay rent in their hometown and in D.C., because D.C.
is insanely expensive.
So it don't work.
That's why they're all rich, because only rich people can do it.
frank quite frankly valbiro
Then they should make a dorm, a dormitory for, yeah, a congressional dormitory.
tim pool
Oh yeah.
A. Murray has a very, very interesting argument.
It's very, very complicated.
It says, government doesn't and never will work.
lydia smith
Solid.
tim pool
Compelling.
lydia smith
Nailed it.
tim pool
Compelling argument.
It's concise.
Sever Slate says service guarantees citizenship.
I like that idea.
I like that.
All right, where are we at?
The other Nat Phyfe says, instead of term limits, how about a website that has every bill voted on, a pre-sys of the bill, and a list of how each rep or senator voted, with the option for the congressman to comment on their vote, that exists.
What is it, BillTracker?
frank quite frankly valbiro
Or I think ontheissues too, or justtheissues.com?
tim pool
And it pulls up the bill and it shows you all of the votes, green and red, yes and no, and then you can see, it's good.
All right.
Mail?
Mile?
Francis says, Seamus is so cute.
He gives me hope that I'll meet a nice guy my age who agrees with my values.
I'd ask him out, but I am on the West Coast and can't wait to leave.
Love the Freedom Tunes website.
God bless.
seamus coughlin
No, thank you.
That's very sweet.
I really hope you find somebody.
tim pool
We'll pray for you.
ian crossland
You will.
seamus coughlin
Discern God's will, say your prayers, and he'll show you.
tim pool
Cooper Hurstine says, Why is nobody talking about social media companies doing zero misinformation policing about Roe being overturned?
Because we all know there's a double standard and these corporations are evil!
So.
They don't care about what's true, they care about what's morally correct.
seamus coughlin
People are unironically saying, there was a tweet I saw that had 250,000 likes and it said that this is going to make it illegal to have a miscarried baby removed.
tim pool
Right, right, right.
seamus coughlin
That is not true anywhere.
Also, it's like, what do people think America was like before 1973?
Do they think if women had miscarriages, they just died?
What's wrong with them?
tim pool
Do you see that comic, that cartoon someone made where it's the American flag, but the red stripes are pregnant women dragging their bodies, moaning?
It's you saw it.
And then the stars on the American flag are hangers.
And I'm just like, is this what you think was like, was going on in 1973?
frank quite frankly valbiro
Imagine being that that living in that headspace.
That's the problem.
These are people living in a headspace that is just terminal.
seamus coughlin
And by the way, in case anyone tries to say otherwise, I'll just put this bit of information out there.
Bernard Nathanson, the founder of NARAL, admitted they literally made up every single figure they gave to the press about back alley abortions and the death rate that resulted from them.
It's all completely untrue.
It's all completely untrue.
tim pool
Mic drop.
Alright, let's grab one more here.
That's silly.
Corrin says, might be too late for Tim and Frank, but gentlemen, taking Saul Palmetto
stops follicle death, but won't bring back already lost hair.
You are welcome.
That's silly.
I have a very simple solution.
You wear the beanie and then you're not bald anymore.
People don't know that Frank's wearing a baseball cap.
frank quite frankly valbiro
Problem solved!
And I only really wear this when I'm on air because I don't like the feeling of the head sweating and feeling it with the cans on.
tim pool
People don't get it.
I did a video today about the transgender skating thing and I showed a video of myself from when I was 16 still wearing the beanie.
17 wearing the beanie, 18 wearing the beanie.
They don't understand.
It's just like a thing I've always done.
seamus coughlin
That's actually his hair.
tim pool
It's stuck to my head.
I can't get it off.
frank quite frankly valbiro
It's the same thing with me though with this too.
I fell in love with fitted baseball caps when I was in like 3rd or 4th grade.
And of course it's stupid to get a child something that age because you grow so quickly.
But around 5th, 6th grade my mother started getting me I wanted all of the Major League Baseball hats.
I got everything.
Even the retired ones.
The old white socks.
I wear the Brooklyn Dodgers hat a lot.
I just love fitted baseball caps.
I always have.
And then, you know...
But once, once college came out, it was done and I realized that I was receding, I said,
whatever, I shave my head anyway, so I'm just going to keep shaving and keep wearing hats.
And that's it.
tim pool
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And Frank, do you want to shout anything out?
frank quite frankly valbiro
Yeah, I would really like to personally just thank you for... I never really thought I'd ever come on this show or whatever, but I'm so grateful for you to invite me, and I had a wonderful time meeting you guys and the whole crew.
And before I shout out my channel and all that, I would like to personally Invite you all anytime you need to go to New York for any reason come by the studio be part of a show I have a very cozy studio waiting for you all to come by and be guests, but quite frankly dot TV I Go live Monday through Friday 7 p.m.
I know that Tim goes live at 8, but I can be a nice little pre show for you and Host of a nicely taught talk show, Current Events, Hidden History, Human Condition, and the Great Beyond.
On just Saturday night, while you guys were at the Minds event and in your panels there, I was interviewing a man who died on the Titanic in 1912.
And he was reincarnated.
So that was my Saturday night.
You get to do fun stuff like that with me.
And thank you.
That's it.
And also a shout out to Mike the Mailman.
He listens to my show, but he's also a big fan of yours, Tim.
And he came to me once when somebody sent in a super chat about me, and he's really excited I'm going to be on.
So shout out to Mike the Mailman.
Can you say hi to Mike the Mailman?
tim pool
Hi, I'm Mike the Mailman.
frank quite frankly valbiro
There you go, Mike.
tim pool
Right on.
frank quite frankly valbiro
OK.
seamus coughlin
I'm Seamus Coghlan of Freedom Toons.
I saw somebody sent in a super chat saying that they missed debates with Strawman.
Well, I've got good news for you.
unidentified
Two of the cartoons we got behind the paywall are debates with Strawman.
seamus coughlin
We're making more of them.
If y'all want to support me and what I do, go to freedomtoons.com.
Become a member.
You will get an extra video every week, as well as behind-the-scenes content.
Thank you so much.
ian crossland
Ian Crossland, iancrossland.net.
You guys rock, man.
I really appreciate your criticism and your feedback, because it's some of the realest stuff out there.
Frank, dude, thanks, man.
Thanks for coming and being so positive and, like, just encouraging me to become a sheriff.
frank quite frankly valbiro
Oh, you can do it.
And I would come down anytime.
If I was asked back again, I would bring my daughter.
She would love it.
She's almost two, but she would just love the chickens.
ian crossland
Yeah, this place is awesome.
frank quite frankly valbiro
You let me know.
ian crossland
Beautiful, man.
All right.
See you later.
lydia smith
Thanks so much for coming.
Frank, thank you all for joining us on this wonderful crossover episode.
Hopefully we can do more of this in the future.
I love having people from New York City because it's not that far away.
You guys can follow me on Minds.com and Twitter at Sour Patchlets as well as SourPatchlets.me.
tim pool
And if you want to see Chicken Ian, go to chickencitylive.com.
We just put up the new cartoon and it's actually, I'm really impressed.
It's one of the longer, it's like over two minutes.
It's funny.
It's Ian as a chicken going to school and discussing the Federal Reserve.
You'll get a good laugh out of it.
We'll see you all over at timcast.com.
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