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Timcast IRL - Staff For Stephen Colbert BREACHED Capitol Aided by Adam Schiff, Arrested w/Vish Burra
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you ladies and gentlemen it is a is a dark day in American
tim pool
history There was an insurrection at the Capitol, never forget 6-16-2022, when staffers and comedians and individuals associated with Stephen Colbert breached the Capitol building after hours without authorization, let in, yes, by a Democratic member of Congress.
Our democracy, I'm sorry, our constitutional republic is truly at risk.
No, in all seriousness, here's the real story.
This is actually crazy.
So I'm sitting down in the green room.
I turn on Fox News and Jesse Waters comes on and says that seven people Associated with the Colbert's Late Show were arrested for breaching the Capitol building.
They were unauthorized.
They were banging on doors and screaming, apparently.
The report is that they were let in by Adam Schiff.
Now we're hearing it's nine people, including some well-known comics, as well as staffers for the Late Show with Stephen Colbert.
So it's fascinating.
Obviously, I'm not literally comparing this to what happened on January 6th, but it is kind of a weird irony.
We have the January 6th hearings going on right now, and you have several comedians Breaching the building.
They were instructed to leave.
Apparently they were let in by Schiff.
I wonder if Adam Schiff is gonna be held accountable at all.
So we'll talk about that.
We got a bunch of other news, too.
We got, I believe it was Cornyn, his name, right?
That senator who wants gun control?
That's who it is, yeah?
He's getting booed at a GOP convention.
People were throwing his lanyards in the trash.
Oh, I really, really want to talk about that.
And I think we'll roll with that.
Obviously a lot of news in the In the economy, because everybody expects it to get really bad.
Democrats are already plotting replacing Joe Biden.
Let's be real, they have been for some time.
So we'll get into all of that stuff.
Joining us tonight to talk about all of that is Vish Bhura.
unidentified
How you doing?
Thanks for having me, Tim.
Who are you?
I'm an America First activist and operative.
I've worked with the New York Young Republican Club.
I've been the producer for War Room with Steve Manin.
Wow.
Well then, should be interesting.
I've worked closely with Matt Gates in the House of Representatives.
I'm also one of the main players behind the Hunter Biden laptop story right here.
Anybody who's ever got a copy of the Hunter Biden laptop has pretty much got it from me.
Wow.
tim pool
Well then, should be interesting.
We also have Forrest Cooper.
forrest cooper
Yep.
So my name is Forrest Cooper.
I exist in two different worlds, one of them being philosophy, the other one being violence and how we understand it.
And I am here for my fourth appearance, enjoying my time here.
So my politics is my own, but I'm really concerned about, I like to, I like to focus on questions of gun control and whether it's arbitrary and what's the point.
And then you can find me on Twitter now, if you've been following, if you've seen us on or me on your show, I'm on Twitter now, unfortunately.
tim pool
You have a lot of experience in war, conflict, crisis.
forrest cooper
Yep.
Seven deployments, four of them prior with Ranger Battalion.
I've spent plenty of time overseas.
I was over in Ukraine for a little bit recently, but that was more for journalism.
tim pool
So I really wanna talk about, you know, obviously, Tim Pool loves talking about civil war.
So we'll get into that, especially considering what's going on with this Capitol breach and what it really means and what they'll say about it, plus where this goes in terms of, there's another big story out of New Mexico we talked about, Otero County, where they're refusing to certify the election.
A court order came down saying you have to, and this guy, Coy Griffin, was like, nope, not gonna do it.
So nobody knows what that means.
They're like, if he doesn't do it, what happens?
No one knows.
Is there just no election?
Well, we'll find out.
We got Luke Rudkowski.
luke rudkowski
I'm pretty sure Forrest is here to assassinate me after the show.
My name is Luke Rudkowski of WeAreChange.org.
I am your humble t-shirt vendor.
Today I'm wearing a shirt that gets me a lot of thumbs up.
It says, if you trust the government, you don't know history.
I think it's important for a lot of people to see this message.
If you agree, you can go on thebestpoliticalshirts.com and get yourself one.
Also, Today will be my last day for a little bit here on this broadcast.
I will be missing you guys.
I will definitely miss Tim, Ian, Lydia, and even this grinning malaca right in front of me that couldn't be happier about the news.
seamus coughlin
No, I'm really sad that you're going, man.
tim pool
Luke is going on an unpaid suspension for inappropriate behavior.
He cheated while we were playing video games.
seamus coughlin
Also called me Potato Man many times.
tim pool
No, that's fine.
seamus coughlin
I can talk to HR then.
Then I can talk to HR.
That's fine.
unidentified
You would.
luke rudkowski
You would, Karen.
seamus coughlin
I want to point out that you're sure to strike if you trust the government and you don't know history.
As someone who doesn't know history, I also don't trust the government, so I want that to be said.
luke rudkowski
At least you admit it.
seamus coughlin
Well, look, I'm not going to pretend to be something I'm not.
forrest cooper
Yes, and Luke, is it assassination if you know it's coming?
luke rudkowski
Uh, maybe.
I don't know.
We'll see what happens after the show.
forrest cooper
It's a question for another day.
seamus coughlin
Right on, it's making me feel unsafe.
So my name is Seamus Coghlan.
I make cartoons at a YouTube channel called Freedom Tunes.
We just released a cartoon yesterday that I think you guys will really like.
Speaking of assassinations and assassination attempts, it's pretty spicy.
I think you'll enjoy it.
We also just started a website, so if you want to support independent content, help
us get free from Big Tech and get an extra cartoon every week, go over to freedomtunes.com
and become a member for five bucks a month.
Thank you so much.
lydia smith
I am loving the vibe tonight.
It's gonna be a very fun conversation.
We have a lot of different expertises here, so I'm looking forward to getting into it.
tim pool
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Let's jump into that first story from just the news.
Capital breach seven individuals some tied to comedian Colbert caught Unapproved in complex.
Let me see if I can pull up this Twitter.
unidentified
It looks like we're getting like a weird thing happening with the Yeah, whatever you can read it.
tim pool
So here we go.
We got this this Twitter thread from Chad Pergram who says Fox confirms that groups of persons associated with the late show, Stephen Colbert, were arrested last night and charged with illegal entry to House office buildings after hours.
Fox is told that people were arrested in the Longworth House office building.
The group was in the Cannon House office building earlier in the day trying to get interviews around the time of the 1-6 committee hearing.
However, USCP shooed them away because they did not have proper press credentials.
Sounds like an insurrection, if you were to ask me.
later in the night after the Capitol complex was closed to the public Fox is
told they took pictures and videos around the offices of House Minority
Leader Kevin McCarthy and Lauren Boebert hmm sounds like an insurrection if you
were to ask me I mean that's what the media was saying about who was it was it
who was that who was It was a congressman, right?
unidentified
Loudermilk.
tim pool
Loudermilk.
unidentified
Very Loudermilk.
tim pool
Yep, they were saying he was leading a tour and helping people or giving them insider information.
What is this?
Why would they take pictures?
They say they were unescorted and arrested in charge of the legal entry.
They were arrested near Boebert's office, released overnight.
They've confirmed all of their names.
Nine people.
Now, I can confirm several of these people do work for Stephen Colbert.
Some of them, I believe, which is... One of these guys, I don't know, is the voice of that comedian, that dog, that... Robert Smigel.
Is that who that is?
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
What's the dog?
Triumph?
unidentified
Triumph.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, he actually goes on to say that.
U.S.C.P.
have issued the following statement.
On June 16, 2022, at approximately 8.30 p.m., U.S.
Capitol Police received a call for a disturbance in the Longworth House office building.
Responding officers observed seven individuals, unescorted and without congressional ID, in a six-floor hallway.
The building was closed to visitors, and these individuals were determined to be part of a group that had been directed by the U.S.C.P.
to leave the building.
I gotta tell you, my friends, this is worse than January 6th.
You think I'm joking?
I'm not joking, I mean it seriously.
On January 6th, many of the people who entered the building walked up with no signs, with nothing, and had the doors opened for them by the police, who then went to take selfies with them.
Those people, one guy so far, because there's been a few bench trials, one of these guys was acquitted.
Because the judge said, cops opened the door and let him in.
That's not trespassing.
There was another guy who tried claiming the same thing, but he's on video climbing through a broken window and over broken glass.
Sorry, that's not gonna fly.
You know you're trespassing.
These people were told to leave.
They came back.
And according to, uh, I believe we have a, it was a tweet from Jonathan Turley and a statement made by, uh, it wasn't from Jonathan, Turley tweeted what Jesse Waters reported that it was Adam Schiff and maybe one of his staffers who let them in the building.
So you have a member of Congress letting them, letting them in the building after they were told by the police not to be there.
That's almost as bad as the rioters.
Now, there wasn't, they weren't engaging in violence.
The rioters on January 6th obviously, you know, arrest them and charge them as appropriate.
But these, what they did is worse than what the Maga Mimas did when they, when they blindly walked in confused.
So, I'd like to see several FBI raids, maybe some misdemeanor charges that result in a year of solitary confinement.
What say you, good sir?
unidentified
Well, let me ask you this, Tim.
What do you think if, let's say, those producers were reaching out to many members of the house trying to get in to the Capitol via requests and stuff?
Maybe Adam Schiff wasn't the first one.
In fact, a source from the house sent me an email from Jake Plunkett sent on June 6th.
Hi.
Reaching out on behalf of Robert Smigel and The Triumph, the insult dog.
He'll be in DC on June 15th and the 16th covering the Jan 6 hearings.
Wants to do some comedy bits with members of both sides of the aisle.
If you haven't seen Triumph, he's the insult comic dog with Conan and recently had his own Hulu special.
We've done bits with everyone from Barney Frank to Ted Cruz and Cory Booker.
We're very much interested in doing comedy for both sides.
That's an email that was sent on June 6th.
Now, if Adam Schiff actually let these guys in, right?
There's a process.
I used to work in the house, in the Longworth building.
I worked there.
And in order for you to get access to the office buildings as press, you have to go through the admin and get, the house admin, and get press credentials.
The reason you would go to a member to let you in is so that you're let in without having to declare that you're press, right?
And so that's it.
tim pool
And not only that... Can you bypass security?
unidentified
Well, you have to be registered in by somebody from the office of the Congress member.
So you're on record that you're in.
But there are rules.
If you're a visitor to one of these offices for a Congress member, you're not allowed to even roam the halls of the office building.
tim pool
What about after hours, when the building's closed?
unidentified
Definitely not, because you need a staff member of the Congress member who let you in to be escorting you through the halls at all times.
tim pool
So my question is, if you were let in after hours, would you be able to bypass security?
unidentified
Well, Adam Schiff has to answer.
Somebody had to let him in through the doors, but then they let him loose through the building.
tim pool
What I mean is...
Is there a way to open doors for people that does not bring them through any kind of security?
unidentified
Oh, no, no, no, no.
tim pool
Everyone goes through security.
unidentified
Everybody goes through security.
tim pool
That's what I wanted to make sure, because I'm like, did they open a side door?
unidentified
And even after 7 p.m., there's only one door.
It's called the 24-hour entrance at the Longworth Building.
There's only one door you can get in after 7 p.m.
tim pool
So you're saying that he signed them in?
He brought them through security?
unidentified
A staffer or himself had to have signed them in.
Wow.
tim pool
And they were- so on Jesse Waters apparently they were like banging on doors and yelling and that's how the cops were alerted to it.
We need more reporting to come out because this story is just coming out now.
Here's the crazy thing.
This happened yesterday at 8 30 p.m.
How are we just now finding out about it?
luke rudkowski
There's people in the chat room calling this, uh, in soy-rection, uh, which I just wanted to note here.
And, uh, you made a good point, Tim, uh, especially on January 6th, there was doors that were extremely heavy that were closed with magnets that were only opened because of a code that was input directly by someone from the inside that knew the code that was able to open the doors on January 6th.
What happened here is video of it.
tim pool
Does video of the cops opening the door and the cop even says, don't agree with it, but I respect it.
luke rudkowski
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
luke rudkowski
So, so, you know, What happened here? We don't know. Maybe they were trying
to do another big Pfizer sang and dance routine trying to promote more procedures.
Who knows?
We don't know. We do need more reporting to find out exactly what was going on
tim pool
here. It would be funny if all of those people were dressed up like giant
vaccinations.
luke rudkowski
Sneaking around, running around.
seamus coughlin
I think you guys aren't taking this seriously enough.
It sounds to me like Adam Schiff came dangerously close to overthrowing the United States government.
You're right.
tim pool
You're right.
We need hearings immediately.
seamus coughlin
Absolutely.
tim pool
Adam Schiff.
I mean, let's be serious though.
If it's true that he let them in, I mean, that's way worse than January 6th.
Donald Trump said, peacefully march to the Capitol and cheer on politicians, something like that.
seamus coughlin
Were there Republican elected officials who let people into the Capitol on January 6th?
unidentified
No.
Yeah.
Did any sign them in?
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
tim pool
That's what I'm saying.
So look, the left will always try to conflate all of January 6th with just the riot on the one side of the building.
I'm not talking about that.
Those people who are fighting with cops and smashing stuff and hitting... Those people will get charged.
Arrest them.
Charge them.
Make sure it's appropriate.
You get what you get.
I'm not a fan of what they're doing with the solitary confinement for a year or anything.
That's egregious.
But if you're rioting, you get arrested.
But there's videos of people just walking up, confused.
There's no fences, there's no barricades.
And then the cops literally open the door and they wave to people as they walk in with their flags.
One cop stops, they take a selfie together and they're like, yeah, thank you.
Apparently one guy claimed that the cops were actually like, yeah, come on in.
There's actually a video of cops fanning people like this.
Now the argument there was the Capitol Police said the cop was fanning the police, not the people.
Well, you got a problem there.
If there's regular people standing there confused and you're going like this and motioning forward and they're like, okay.
Yeah, they think you're telling them to come in.
seamus coughlin
That's also a very strange excuse.
luke rudkowski
Taking selfies with insurrectionists is not really a good look.
seamus coughlin
Also, hold on.
That seems like a ridiculous story.
So if there were people who were just mobbing the compound, right, and we're calling security over and those people are at the door, I'm not going like this.
To gesture security to come over to help us, right?
That's not how that works.
That's insane.
That is such an insane argument.
Like, I was just doing a general waving motion into the building because I wanted one specific person to stop everyone else from getting in the building.
tim pool
They were telling the other officers to pull back.
seamus coughlin
Okay, well maybe I could see that.
forrest cooper
Here's a silly question.
The January 6th event insurrection is probably going to be one of the most documented events
in American history.
Even now, it's been a year and a half old, right?
There's so much documentation on this that there are dissertations that will be written
about people's dissertations, about people's opinions, about what they thought they saw,
whatever.
Anybody, and I mean anybody that has the cogency to ask maybe somebody who knows anything about
security regarding security protocols, security operations, I mean it's not a complicated
situation.
The whole fanning thing is ridiculous.
tim pool
We need to get to the bottom of the 529 insurrection.
seamus coughlin
529 insurrection in all seriousness.
That's right, 529.
Well, more, two thirds, roughly two thirds of Americans want to look into the 2020 riots
according to polling data.
Less than half want to look into January 6th.
Less than half agree with the January 6th commission.
tim pool
You mean the 529 insurrection?
seamus coughlin
Yeah, that's right, the 529 insurrection.
tim pool
Never forget.
seamus coughlin
Of course, never forget.
tim pool
I never will.
Are you familiar with 529?
forrest cooper
I live in Minneapolis, I'm familiar.
tim pool
I heard it was mostly peaceful, though.
529 in Washington, D.C., when violent leftists tried tearing the fence down and set fire to one of the White House guard posts, set fire to St.
John's Church, and forced the president to retreat to a bunker, attacked journalists, and the police had to come and defend the White House from this insurrection on 529.
unidentified
529.
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, 529.
seamus coughlin
I remember that day.
You mentioned that they were, this is one of the most documented events, and it is curious, why aren't they releasing the security camera footage?
Why not release all the security camera footage?
tim pool
From 529?
seamus coughlin
Well, from January.
January 6th was more documented, but yeah, both.
They won't.
luke rudkowski
Or the federal involvement and release information about how many agents were there and were participating.
And also, you know, the foreknowledge with basic events that were on Facebook saying that this was going to happen and then this was all something that they made up.
seamus coughlin
What about the supposed pipe bombs that were just near where Kamala Harris was that they decided to stop talking about?
tim pool
I have a real question.
After January 6th, a bunch of leftists started doxing as many people as they could, posting their photos and faces.
No one did that for 529.
I mean that seriously.
At the White House, you have all this video of people trying to break down the fence.
They actually tore down the barricades.
They actually set fire to one of the guard posts and a church.
The right is not playing this game.
unidentified
I was going to say, as an activist, I've seen this over and over again.
We're just not willing to do what the left is willing to do to take us out, right?
The Sedition Hunters page is what you're talking about, where they're going out and doxing people who were part of the insurrection or whatever.
But we don't do that.
Why not?
We have this, I think that the right has a problem of actually just participate where the space is available.
Why don't we have our own version of SPLC or ADL that just goes and labels people communists?
Or, you know, Marxists?
Or, you know, woke, you know, bad actors?
tim pool
Because, you know, the way I see it is, like, the quote-unquote right is a disparate group of random factions that disagree with each other on so many different things.
Not even necessarily individualist.
I mean, conservatives are more individualist, but they're more collectivist than, say, libertarians.
luke rudkowski
But to be contrarian here, is that going to be the right strategy?
Because someone did something bad, should we do something bad too?
And use the state and the government and the deep state to go after people politically?
So I understand the paradigm, but I'm just playing... It's not bad to call out bad people.
tim pool
Right, they're just duplicitous.
There is right-wing Media Matters, sort of.
I think it's unfair to say necessarily, but Newsbusters.
You're familiar with Newsbusters?
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
So they watch all of these cable channels and then call out the lies in the media.
I respect that.
Media Matters lies about people in the media.
But it's an inversion.
I like what Newsbusters does.
I don't like what Media Matters does.
But at a core, they're both watching TV and then publishing their opinions on it.
So there is that counterpart.
You're right for the SPLC.
unidentified
My whole thing is just match them at the front.
I don't need you to win.
Just match them, right?
Because then it opens up other fronts in the war where we can actually overtake them.
The thing is, we get kicked in too much from too many angles.
luke rudkowski
But if you look at the SPLC, they lie.
They slander.
They've been sued successfully by individuals that they lied about.
tim pool
They lied about me.
luke rudkowski
And they lied about me too.
They took a speech that I did and they took one particular sentence that I said and they matched it up with a sentence that I said later to make me sound like I was calling for a revolution when I was calling for an evolution and people being better themselves individually.
So they're liars, they're cheaters.
I don't think we should strive to become what they are.
And I know where you're coming from.
tim pool
No, there's no one saying that.
luke rudkowski
No, no, no.
But what you were saying, I think, was kind of matched by that.
unidentified
Well, I think that, first of all, nobody would call... We call the SPLC liars, right?
SPLC wouldn't say what they're doing is lying, and there's nobody that comes out a third-party sort of unbiased... A court of law did.
Okay, so if a court of law did, fine, right?
tim pool
And who's taking that?
They admitted the story they wrote with several individuals, including me.
They retracted it, apologized, and corrected it.
unidentified
And a bunch of my friends end up on that list too, right?
But who has the... Does everyone who gets put on that list have the resources to be able to challenge that, right?
That's the problem.
forrest cooper
So there's a really good example you could take with anything that happens in the gun industry or the gun culture, or it's like, oh, well, that guy got hit.
And so no, everyone just like leaves him alone for a while.
He'll figure it out.
What I'm saying is that I think you're identifying that in many ways the left circles the wagons, and they protect their own.
And there's a lot of things that you can go through real quickly, so I'll just launch them one at a time.
It was Zuby who said, calling someone a hypocrite only matters if they have integrity.
I'm paraphrasing him poorly, but like, okay, we know that doesn't work.
The SPLC is not an honest organization, okay?
We know that, so then they're not credible.
We don't use them because they're credible, but somebody else will because it's advantageous.
Do you fight fire with fire?
tim pool
Sometimes.
forrest cooper
Sometimes.
However, what I think a more critical condition is, why does the conservative party not use the Department of Justice to actually do justice?
And I don't mean this in the, well, actually mentality, but it's, you look at all the, all the, the, these criticisms across the, uh, the 529 issue, you look at, or the, the 529 insurrection, you look at the, the things that happened in Minneapolis, the things that happened in Kenosha.
It's why don't you actually just, I don't know, maybe do your job.
unidentified
Right.
forrest cooper
So, and cause if you're not doing justice, you're not the department of justice.
And if you're not doing justice as the department of justice, you should find a new job.
You should be removed.
And I do not think you win in the game of attrition with people who are already committed to a zealous ideology that will never stop.
luke rudkowski
Maybe abolishing these corrupted institutions might be something better instead of them being weaponized against the political parties.
Because when another political party goes into power, they're going to be using the same tools that they use on the other party.
forrest cooper
Perfect example would be, what was her name?
The gal from The View who said that gun laws in America would change if black people had them, right?
Okay, do you censor her?
Do you cut her from the film?
No, you ignore her.
So she's not a serious speaker.
And as that continues, you encourage over the long tail decision to build your community, to build your friends, to focus.
If you want to defeat ignorant people, you isolate them from the halls of intelligence.
tim pool
She wasn't wrong though, Joy Behar.
What she's saying, she's not talking about conservatives.
So Joy Behar on The View says that when black people get guns, the gun laws will change.
Now we, as people who don't like racism or who like guns, we hear that and we're like, that's ridiculous.
Like we would ever support that race.
No, no, no, no.
These uppity liberals, of course, want more gun control, and especially if minorities they don't like are getting it.
luke rudkowski
It's like what happened with the Black Panthers.
tim pool
Exactly.
That was California.
That was San Francisco.
luke rudkowski
Absolutely.
forrest cooper
It was California and San Francisco in a different time.
I don't want to go down that road too far.
What I do want to go down to is the point of white fragility.
What did we learn from the book White Fragility?
The author is a terrible person, and she wants to project that on everybody else.
tim pool
And she's racist.
forrest cooper
She's a racist who wants to project her racism on everybody else.
An honest academic would look at that and say, Forrest, we need to have an honest conversation about this.
tim pool
I see people on the right internalize what Joy Behar said.
And when you internalize that pain, you assume they're talking about you when they're actually talking about themselves.
So when they project, when they say these things, I just always assume they're talking about themselves.
You know why?
People have their worldview and they assume, I should say low IQ people, assume everyone else must see the world the same way they do.
Therefore, if they don't agree with me, it's because they're lying.
So someone like Joy Behar, when she says that, she's actually talking more about herself and what she feels than what anyone else actually thinks.
forrest cooper
I don't think she has a low IQ.
you I think she's just mean I think it's I think it's I think it's fueled from
spite it's just rage but why would you say why would you say that about anybody
why would you say that about anybody is that a soul thing that motivates them is
racism because she's a racist exactly so she needs to spend spend some time figuring out who she is.
tim pool
She sees the world through this lens and assumes that's why people would do something.
She does not understand the fact that, you know, we're all, I don't know, are you familiar
with Maj Torre?
Yes.
Yeah.
We're, we're fans of Black Guns Matter and Maj Torre and the work he does.
And uh, it's like, she doesn't even know he exists.
I mean, literally, she probably doesn't.
She sees this world.
Then she says, everyone else must think the same way as me, but I'm a good person because I don't act on it.
We're all like, no, we don't think that.
We think you're a racist.
unidentified
This is just a modernized version of white man's burden.
That's all this is.
Look, it's hard for me to be this good white person.
You know, it's my burden to have to go around and say this stuff.
I'm trying to speak sense to you folks.
forrest cooper
Are you talking about like the 1800s white man's burden?
unidentified
Yeah, it's the same thing.
forrest cooper
The part where like we have things like travel and medicine and written language we should spread that around the world?
unidentified
Yeah, but they've taken that and just injected it into everything.
tim pool
Yeah, they call it White Savior Complex.
unidentified
Right.
It's the same thing.
It's the same thing.
They think they know better for you.
That's the whole idea.
tim pool
Remember that guy in California where he was cheering on the rioting?
And then you see his Twitter thread where he's like, Yes!
Yes!
Do it!
Yeah!
Wait a minute, why are you coming to my neighborhood?
Don't come to my neighborhood, go downtown!
Didn't he actually say, like, go downtown?
Where the poor people live?
And he was mad they're going to Beverly Hills.
I'm like, bro, they're coming to eat the rich.
You're not safe.
unidentified
They've been saying this for a while.
forrest cooper
I mean, they don't say eat the rich because they're hungry.
They say eat the rich because they're greedy.
luke rudkowski
I'm still working this idea out.
I don't claim to know the answer here.
I don't know the solutions.
But I think maybe it would be more advantageous to stop relying on corrupted institutions to do the right thing.
And I think moving away from them, defunding them, abolishing them, I think would be a better strategy than saying, hey, Bill Barr, Mr. CIA, do the right thing here.
I think it would be better to, you know, I don't know, some people say play fire with fire, and I understand that argument, and I understand where you guys are coming from, but my knee-jerk reaction is like, wait, what we're doing here is we're adding more fuel to the fire, and it's already very hot in this room.
That's my point of view.
And I might be wrong, and I might be wrong.
seamus coughlin
And let me tell you why.
I think you're seizing a lot on the argument of state intervention, and just setting that aside for a moment, because I don't even know, I don't think we agree entirely there, but when he mentioned something like having our own version of the SPLC, obviously we're not saying we should have an organization that lies, but the point is the left has re-engineered the culture such that being accused of having any kind of conservative value comes with a very swift and significant social cost.
luke rudkowski
But they target, attack, and harass individuals.
seamus coughlin
And I think Right.
that it is a very good idea for conservatives to push for a culture
where there is a social cost to being a communist.
If you are going to go out there and say, I support the ideology which has resulted in
hundreds of millions of innocent people being slaughtered, folks should probably not want to associate with you.
forrest cooper
If you want to advocate for the abolition of private property, start with yourself.
If you're not willing to do that, you don't believe it.
But that is an old tale.
What you're dealing with is an asymmetry of ideas.
An asymmetry in the side of warfare.
You look at, after nuclear weapons were created, the idea of warfare had to change.
You can't put the genie back in the bottle.
After the machine gun, horse charges didn't matter anymore.
After bomber planes, large formations of people, don't work anymore.
tim pool
Standard armor didn't matter when gunpowder became ubiquitous.
forrest cooper
It took time, but eventually gunpowder defeated armor.
tim pool
And then armor became massive tanks.
forrest cooper
Which then we're, you know, right now we have drones.
You having a tank battalion is functionally useless against a powerful Western military.
What happened after this history lesson at, we saw in, well not history, I don't need to talk down, that's not the right way of saying it.
But after World War II, what were the next major conflicts?
Korea, my grandfather was a POW for three years, so I heard a lot of stories.
Insurgency has become such a buzzword amongst the military elite that it's like, I'm cool.
I said insurgency.
Metaphysics.
Polymath.
Insurgency has become such a buzzword amongst the military elite that it's like, I'm cool,
I said insurgency, metaphysics, polymath, banana peel, but whatever.
So the point being said, though, is how does an asymmetry work?
The left has functionally and fully adopted asymmetrical warfare from the side of what we had called terrorism, but an insurgency.
It is a situation where I get to harm you.
But if you do what I do to you, if you reciprocate, that's bad.
So you see this within the riots in Minneapolis.
The riots were a really good example.
The Antifa, or the rioters, will provoke a response and use that response as justification for further evidence of their need for revolution.
Who's been calling for revolution this entire time?
It hasn't been the right.
Understanding insurgency conflict, how to fight against a counterinsurgency.
The purpose of an insurgency is not to defeat you in a military battle.
It's to break your will to the system.
How do Americans, how does the right or how do Americans defeat this social contagion that is this insurgency, which is both bred on our soil and abroad?
seamus coughlin
is you remember the foundations that built our country it's almost the lord of the rings plot all over again you have to understand who you are and where you come from and then live up to those virtues that is very important that you mention that because one of the huge problems right now is that conservatives but i would say americans overall and people living in western societies have no idea What their values are or what values upon which their society has been founded.
And so when the left comes along and they try to deconstruct, a lot of people are completely helpless.
They don't know how to defend and justify the values that our society promotes.
They're incapable of doing it.
And you're right that we need to know what we believe and we don't.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, I think this is where we kind of differ because I don't see the left as the main problem here.
I see a divide-and-conquer agenda.
I see voting for the lesser of two evils that is continuing to plague this country.
I see a duopoly.
I see fifth-generational warfare being raged on the American people.
And I think the people that are in power are using the left right now because they're the most easily to get used now.
unidentified
Sure.
luke rudkowski
They're the most easily to push this agenda through because it's convenient now.
unidentified
Stop.
luke rudkowski
But as soon as it becomes inconvenient for the larger agenda, for the larger fifth generational
warfare enslavement of humanity, they're going to be using a right-wing element of it that's
also going to be pushing on a different front that's going to be taking away our rights
and our economic abilities to survive and prosper.
seamus coughlin
So more than...
forrest cooper
Stop.
How do you...
seamus coughlin
I just want to say this one thing and then I'll let you jump in.
So more than one thing can be true at a time.
It can absolutely be the case that the ruling elite see the left as convenient revolutionaries to destroy the existing social order and then bring to fruition whatever it is that they're seeking to transform our society into.
It is also the case that the strategy by which they do that is to have the left completely erode any and all moral surrounding family values, destroy the family, and then the government comes into that vacuum and usurps the responsibility that the family normally has.
luke rudkowski
with the participation of the right wing.
seamus coughlin
But what we have to do, oh I totally agree with you on that, but that's part of why we
do have to fight left-wing ideology and defend and fight for the family.
So I don't think it's enough to say the left is being used by these tyrants, therefore
we just look at the tyrants.
We actually have to fight the ideology itself because it's useful to them for a reason.
luke rudkowski
So my opinion is, I think we're in such a desperate situation.
We should be fighting against the enslavement, the evisceration of our rights, and the destruction of our financial futures, whether you're on the left, right, or center.
I think it's time, more than ever, to let go of these kind of differences and say, hey, we're actually being really hurt here.
We're actually being really screwed over here.
And unless we come together, unless we realize that we're all in this boat together, we're all going down as a sinking ship.
seamus coughlin
I don't want the people who groom children in my boat.
tim pool
Look, I hear what you're saying, but I don't think you understand the deep ideological divide between, in the United States, from left and right.
You have people who have no moral framework.
They will say simultaneously stop and frisk is bad and red flag laws are good, even though they're variants of the exact same thing and one's even worse.
Red flag laws, stop and frisk on steroids, they're for it.
Why?
No moral framework.
So, when you go to them and say, hey, you know, we need to come together because all these bad things are happening, they'll go, oh, you're right, of course, and then as soon as you turn around, they'll hit you in the back.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, I'm not saying it's a good strategy.
I'm not saying it's even going to work.
forrest cooper
It's not functioning.
Well, it doesn't work.
Okay, well, it's Isaiah 520.
They will call good evil and evil good.
You cannot have You cannot have you cannot break bread and have commonality with somebody who calls what you call good evil.
So problem that you have, do we focus on the left?
Do we focus on the globalists?
Do we focus on all these?
You know what they all saw the point that you're saying they solve the same question, but you can't just advocate for the family.
You have to have one force to build.
tim pool
Forrest, I'm gonna agree with Luke on this one.
I think if we just compromise with the child drag shows, then maybe we'll actually... No, no, no, no, no.
luke rudkowski
That's not what I'm saying.
unidentified
That's not what I said.
luke rudkowski
Not what I said.
seamus coughlin
Do you think they're in the same boat as us?
Because you're saying we're in the same boat together.
luke rudkowski
Not absolutely.
I see the right-wing political establishment willingly going along with this and pretending like they're going to be helping us when they're not.
unidentified
I think there's a divide, first of all, of our understanding of right-wing and, like, Republicans, right?
The Republicans in D.C.
and then the Republicans across the nation are two totally different things, right?
For example, you're talking about why didn't the FBI or the CIA move on 529, right?
Insurrection.
Insurrection.
Who was the president at the time?
Donald Trump.
That was his FBI.
That was his CIA.
Why didn't they move?
Right?
And then you're definitely not going to get a move out of a Biden FBI or DOJ.
The problem is so entrenched in D.C., right?
The FBI is a bunch of, it used to be a Republican stronghold, but Republicans of D.C., right?
You're James Comey's of the world, Bill Barr, Robert Mueller, right?
This is the uniparty, right?
There is one belief in the D.C.
Right at one when you're outside, you know in West Virginia, New York or whatever and you're it's left versus right
Democrat versus Republican But when once you get to DC once you win that battle and
you get to DC the fight becomes the incumbents versus everybody else
so the problem you have is that the When you try to abolish the FBI or you try to abolish these
corrupt limits Or just limit their power.
I'm with you on that, right?
But first you have to get in the guys who believe that into those positions.
Because you can't abolish that institution while you have James Comey or a Bill Barr or Robert Mueller there.
In fact, I wanted to, the whole Mueller investigation and that, you know, James Comey gets fired,
then the special counsel gets appointed for, and Robert Mueller gets selected as a special counsel.
If a couple of things were adjusted slightly differently, what you would have actually had end up
is that there's a universe somewhere out there where Bill Barr would have been selected
the special counsel, and then Donald Trump would have hired Robert Mueller
to head the fbi it would it's that you got
You're dealing with the same pool of talent no matter what, right?
That's the problem.
The pool of talent you could draw on to put into the institutions.
That and so then it goes back to what you're saying.
Build the family, build the community, right?
Because first you have to build the community, then you go and take the halls of power and
then you put the community in that hall of power and then you do what you want.
That's the problem.
luke rudkowski
But just for the record, I don't stand by any groomers.
I don't think you should be working or relying with any type of people who are hurting children
in those people.
But the one point I want to make here is that it's both Republicans and Democrats that are
going to Jeffrey Epstein's island.
tim pool
I need to address that point you're making because when you say you go to them and say
we're being really hurt by this, you're talking about people who overtly and and
And we'll see you next time.
With pride, we literally support those people.
luke rudkowski
So how do you go to any one of them?
Absolutely not. You cannot support people who hurt small children, especially with how evil they're doing it,
especially with the damages that they're causing them.
So what I'm saying is that the conversation should be what I'm saying is the conversation should be a little bit more
nuanced rather than generalized.
That's just the perspective that I'm trying to input.
tim pool
So so here's what I would recommend.
Go to someone you see as a Democrat voter or someone's perceived as a left and say, do you agree with sex changes
for children?
Do you agree with child drag shows?
If they say no, be like, okay, let's have a conversation.
If they say yes, which 95% probably will, maybe 85%, then you can be like, okay, have a nice day.
forrest cooper
What you're asking about, Tim, is the same thing that comes into the gun control conversation.
When was the last time you had an honest conversation about this?
About gun control as a whole.
Like, okay, I was politically introduced into the gun control conversation.
What conversation?
Okay, that's such a...
tim pool
Let's do this.
Let's start the gun control conversation.
We have an article, though.
unidentified
Cool.
tim pool
So this is from CNN Politics.
John Cornyn, top Republican negotiator on gun package, booed at Texas GOP convention.
I saw a photo.
Apparently they were throwing lanyards with his name in it in the garbage.
And then they booed the guy.
forrest cooper
Honest poll for the chat.
tim pool
I just want to point this out.
When we're talking about politics in the establishment uniparty, you've got Republicans who say, okay, Democrats, we'll compromise and give into gun control, and Democrats who say, the moment you do, we'll call for twice as much.
So the direction only moves towards more gun control.
Where's the Republican negotiation with Democrats on them abolishing certain gun laws or repealing certain gun laws?
Never happens.
seamus coughlin
Never, ever.
Well, this is what they constantly say.
Why won't the Republicans compromise with us?
Okay, well, by definition, a compromise involves both sides getting something.
You're literally just asking for concessions.
And the Republicans give them to us!
luke rudkowski
And there shouldn't be any concessions when it comes to our God-given rights.
And I think that's a stance that we should be making, saying, hey, we've given enough to the government.
We've given them all of our money.
We've given them all of our privacy.
We've given them all of our trust.
And they have deceived us every single day.
And when you look at history, when populations disarm, when populations give up their weapons, When populations become defenseless, it's when governments are able to do whatever they want with them.
And I think it's extremely dangerous where we're headed towards as a country.
And I think there should be a criticism right now on the Republicans here more than the Democrats, because it's the Republicans here that are allowing a lot of this to move through.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
So this is the problem with Republicans in D.C.
I despise Republicans in D.C.
You could count on your hand how many of them you could actually rely on to be about what they're about.
right john corn in one of these guys the problem with the senate is that it's a retirement home
seamus coughlin
Right.
unidentified
right they go and raise the age on being able to buy guns why because they're
well over the age right date doesn't affect them
and so you so that senate republicans cornyn is already
putting up the signal right now that he's about to get blown out
The same thing happened to, uh, uh, uh, Jacobs, uh, Chris Jacobs in New York 23.
He came out, he was a house Republican in a super conservative district in New York, right?
R plus 23.
He comes out and says, you know what?
I'm willing to, to, uh, compromise and vote for gun control in about three or four days later.
He had to come out and say, I'm no longer seeking the election, right?
Yeah, because that's the that's how much pushback that he got that he realized like, oh, I said the one thing that just ruined my entire political career.
tim pool
Can we do a recall or something for senators?
unidentified
I think it'll go state by state what you'll be able to do with the Senator, but I don't think you can recall a Senator.
But in that moment, that showed you that still the uproar from the people pushed that guy Jacobs out.
And to break a little news on this show, I'm actually going to be the comms director for Carl Palladino in New York 23 to go and bring that seat and bring it to a real conservative.
Carl Palladino, if he's elected, he will be the MTG of the North.
He will raise hell in the Capitol and we need a guy like that.
tim pool
A lot of gun control bills that need to be repealed.
unidentified
Exactly.
And Carl will stand up.
And that district was challenged on that gun control bit right there.
That seat opened because of that.
So Carl knows what the deal is.
He's going to go make sure our inalienable rights are protected.
forrest cooper
It's really easy to look at gun rights and human rights in America.
Let's remember that the right to own a firearm is a human right.
If you think otherwise, you can go find a way to not be a part of talking.
Diplomatic, right?
tim pool
They tried getting a three-week waiting period for all gun participants.
forrest cooper
Look, look, there needs to be room for optimism here.
And the room for optimism is in our generation.
I am 32 years old.
I am sunburnt from spending a week in South Dakota, which has nothing to do with what I'm about to say.
What does have something to do with that is we live in a generation where you could very well see the NFA repealed.
We can see it.
I do not believe in getting Doomer pilled.
tim pool
That's the National Firearms Act.
forrest cooper
Yeah, the National Firearms Act.
The reason why you can't own... you have to go through a special process to own a barrel that has a length shorter than 16 inches or to own a suppressor which protects your hearing.
tim pool
Suppressors make it safe for everyone.
forrest cooper
Yeah, and this kind of comes back down to that.
If you think that suppressors are like Hollywood quiet and super dangerous, you don't know what you're talking about.
tim pool
Here's the crazy thing, too.
They have handguns that are suppressed.
That means they've made, like, hey, we're gonna make this handgun, it's gonna be safer.
It's not gonna- it's not gonna be as dangerous.
And they're like, mm, that's an NF- that's an NFA item.
forrest cooper
It's an NFA item.
So, to break the stigma, why do you think he got booed?
Do you think he got booed because he betrayed the Republican Party or because he betrayed the American people?
tim pool
The people.
forrest cooper
I'm telling you that they booed him because he betrayed the American people.
Correct.
It turns out when you betray the American people and you're running for Republican, you lose your seat.
You betray the American people and you're running for Democrat, you become President.
tim pool
If you betray the American people and you're a Democrat, all you gotta do is come out and wave a flag or make some garbage statement, and they'll say, sure, whatever, as long as we're aligned socially so that can fit in.
forrest cooper
Yeah, you can bring economic ruin upon the people where they're literally starving in the streets, but you know what, at least he didn't make mean tweets.
tim pool
Some people are masochists.
Adam Schiff can lie every single day.
He can push the Russiagate lies and people just love it.
They love being pissed on by this guy.
And they're going to keep voting for him.
seamus coughlin
But did you know that Trump called him Watermelon Head?
And that's really unpresidential.
tim pool
Did he do that?
forrest cooper
I feel bad for watermelons.
unidentified
Well, that's the thing, you know, Adam Schiff and these guys, they sit in really safe blue seats.
It all depends on the political pressure at the end of the day.
These guys are cold and calculated.
They don't believe in a damn thing, right?
And so as long as that seat is sitting there blue as hell and nobody can touch Adam Schiff on a fundraising perspective or a popularity perspective, that guy's going to sit there for a while.
And if it gets out of his hand, it goes to the left.
It doesn't go to the right.
Right?
And so this is the problem.
We don't do enough.
I believe on the conservative side, we are not willing to go into those districts and challenge those people because, quite frankly, it would cost you a lot of money to do it and you'd probably still lose.
Right?
So I get that.
But we have to build the infrastructure and it's a long-term project.
tim pool
I'll tell you why I think one of the factors that is leading us to civil war.
We've had on a bunch of people on the show.
We've had on Billy Prembe, for instance.
unidentified
I love him.
tim pool
But he was running as a Republican in a deep blue district.
unidentified
Yeah, but I don't know.
I helped him shoot an ad for him.
tim pool
And he should have done that because what's happened is you get the GOP that says, okay, we got to be strategic.
We have X amount of dollars.
That's a D plus seven.
Maybe we shouldn't invest so much money in that because we're going to lose.
Next year, it's a D14.
Well, we definitely don't want to invest in there because we're going to lose.
Next year, it's a D28.
This keeps happening and happens with Republicans as well.
It is hyper-polarizing the country.
You have areas like Adam Schiffer, Nancy Pelosi's district, or Ocasio-Cortez's district,
where she's in a D plus 28.
And it's because Republicans do not try to spend money there and get their messaging out.
And because of that now, you've got the amount of swing districts,
it's just, everything's being pushed further and further left or right.
unidentified
Right.
But you know what that has done though?
The satisfaction with the representative for each district has gone up since then.
Right?
So that is, so there's a little... That just makes it worse in terms of the polarization.
Right.
Because you're firmly in with your guy, right?
Oh, I love him.
He's all the way to, you know, he's to the right of me.
I love him, right?
Or to the left of me.
This is also part of the gerrymandering argument, right?
What is the way we make the maps, right?
They have the communities of interest standard.
My friend Gavin Wax just won his lawsuit in New York.
He was on this show before.
He challenged the assembly maps, got them thrown out.
Special Master is going to have to redraw them next year, I think.
But how is it now that it's going to be drawn out?
What is fair?
Fair is when I win.
See, the issue is, you have the left.
forrest cooper
Fair is when I win.
unidentified
Correct.
That is the right answer actually.
When it comes to politics, unfortunately as much as you hate it, that is the right answer.
See the issue is, you have the left.
tim pool
The left is, we should win because we should win.
The right is, we should win because we propose these ideas that we think will work better.
Many on the left think that's what they're doing, but then you run into problems of... I mean, look, the modern left may be different from where the left was 10 years ago.
I hear a lot of people like Bill Maher, and they rag on Republicans, and it's like, yeah, you're talking about, like, boomer Republicans and stuff.
The younger generation of people that align in this direction are post-liberal, libertarian, moderate, conservative, etc.
There's a wide range of voices.
On the left, they say things like, we should raise the minimum wage.
And you see, yes, simple question.
What will that do?
And then, how does it go, Seamus?
seamus coughlin
Oh yeah, so this is how the left operates.
They go, I want good thing.
I want good thing.
And then you go, okay, so like, how are you going to structure the legislation to get that?
How are we going to pay for it?
You want bad thing.
You want bad thing.
He wants bad thing.
tim pool
I don't want bad thing.
seamus coughlin
You want bad thing.
You want bad thing.
Why the gun debate?
tim pool
bad thing and then they put big up big sign saying bad person bad person bad
forrest cooper
person okay I think perfect this is the you you ask the question what are the
things pushing us towards civil war or open conflict let's just call it open
conflict the gun debate is the perfect example the gun why the gun debate why
seamus coughlin
the gun abortion is way abortion because pregnancy centers have been firebombed
forrest cooper
every four years or now right now I mean every four years we have the same talk
in 2012 and 2013 This is when I was introduced into the political gun conversation.
What happened?
You had Sandy Hook.
And then all of a sudden, all of these conversations, all of these, oh, gun control, gun control, gun control, assault weapons, assault weapons, assault weapons, you know, magazines, magazines, magazines, and people made bank.
made money off of all of the ridiculous things that people said.
They wanted to propose all these ideas, these do-something peoples.
If that is the extent of your intellect, wow, man.
But the point that I'm saying is, you had all of these arguments that were made, that all these gun, pro-gun control arguments, all, every single one of them turned out to be factually wrong, ethically wrong, or just, I don't know, overt tyranny.
So they all collapsed.
And then four years later we had Parkland shooting.
What happened to those old arguments?
It came out of the dust.
tim pool
Same exact arguments.
forrest cooper
Same exact arguments.
You could carbon copy them.
tim pool
But I don't think that is a contributing factor.
I believe that's a contributing factor to some degree to Civil War.
forrest cooper
No, because the people on the right, or the people who support the private ownership of firearms, respond honestly and say, well, these are your ideas, but you're wrong, so I'll help you out and correct them.
And then the people who propose gun control go, they don't think, oh, I was wrong.
Maybe I should change my opinion.
It's not politically advantageous.
If you want to stop a civil war, if you want to prevent or move against a civil war in this country, stop pushing the ridiculous ideas that you've been corrected on for 10 years.
tim pool
You're just talking about the left.
Be it guns or any other political issue.
I posted on Facebook today, what is a woman?
And boy, did every single leftist flip out.
And I said, I don't understand why you can't just be like, here's my answer.
Instead, they all say you're a bigot.
It's a right-wing talking point.
Oh, Matt Walsh made this up.
I'm not playing games.
And I'm just like, wow, they really have no answer.
I don't think that- It doesn't matter if it's gun control, abortion, or any other left-wing issue, if it's progressive taxes or universal health care, they won't answer the questions, nor will they do any real research.
And let me throw it to another example.
Of course we can talk about abortion when we can get sophists from the left who are like, oh, um, you know, it's the woman's choice.
Give me your answer, your morality, they won't do it.
Let's talk about the Green New Deal.
Here's the Green New Deal as it's pitched.
We need to invest in infrastructure that will make us energy independent.
Getting off of fossil fuels so that we're not reliant on Saudi Arabia or Russia or Canada.
And we can do that with wind, with tidal energy, with geothermal.
Nuclear.
Well, the Green New Deal doesn't say that.
And then we say, OK, OK, I love the sound of that.
That sounds really great, actually.
I love the idea of energy independence.
We don't want to be dependent on Saudi Arabia.
What's your proposal?
And they bring to a resolution that says, free college for marginalized people, free health care for marginalized people.
And when I asked, as progressive on the show, what does that have to do with wind turbines?
He says, well, it's because they're the people who are first affected by climate change.
What are you talking about?
There are more poor white people in the United States than minority poor people.
So if you're talking about poverty, what?
Tell me how you're going to build wind turbines on the conversation.
But even when it comes to things that are considered left that I like, they immediately just change the argument to something totally nonsensical.
And then here I am, as AOC is getting, she wins her primary, talks about the Green New Deal.
I made a video, I'm like, I love the idea.
Let's start rebuilding our infrastructure, our bridges, our streets.
Let's focus on how to alleviate ourselves from this dependence on foreign oil.
We can do that with green energy in this country.
And then she's like, I'm proposing the Green New Deal resolution, and it's like, free college for marginalized people.
And I'm like, what?
That's nothing to do with what we talked about.
But you know what the problem is?
People on the left overwhelmingly just said, whatever you say, AOC.
forrest cooper
You want to make college useless, make it free.
seamus coughlin
Well, here's the thing.
I got bad news for you.
Yeah, it's really expensive and it's useless.
forrest cooper
The GI Bill paper mine.
unidentified
Well, the other thing is, is that when they couch all their arguments and platitudes, and then they don't have to get into the specifics, then it leaves that open, right?
It's like, well, you know, what is a woman?
A woman is, you know, by definition, somebody who feels like a woman, blah, blah, blah.
And then it's like, well, what if somebody feels like a cat?
You know, are they a cat, right?
And then it's like, well, what are you trying to say that, you know, a woman is a cat or a trans person is an animal, right?
They, they go into all their little games, right?
Because they don't want to have to, they don't want to corner themselves.
tim pool
Their response to Matt Walsh and What Is Woman is, a woman is a person who identifies as a woman.
Okay, is a cat a person who identifies as a cat?
No, a cat is something very specific and quantifiable.
I mean, woman and man are as well.
But they're just making weird semantic arguments.
Now, I'll say this.
The reason why Matt Walsh's question was so effective is that it's an apolitical question that the average person who's not involved in politics would not understand the deeper political meaning behind it.
They simply see someone say, what is it?
And they go, Oh yeah, let me give you my answer.
But when you look at the political debate and you see someone go, well actually, you know the thing is, you go, what?
That's weird.
forrest cooper
When you ask somebody a basic question and they talk down to you.
unidentified
I think he did a stoic job holding his face.
tim pool
So this is the issue I see.
We talk about this comic, Ian mentioned it several times, where there's two people And there's a 6 from one perspective and a 9 from another perspective, and both people are looking at it from other directions, pointing at it saying 6 or 9.
They can't tell, they're looking at the same thing from the other side.
And, sure, but what I see here, especially with what we do, is I'm staring at that and I go, you know, that could be a 6 or a 9, and they go, you're a bigot, it's clearly a 6!
And I'm like, I understand why you think that, I'm saying, have you tried looking at it?
No, it clearly isn't!
seamus coughlin
Also, whoever put it there in the first place didn't intend for it to be a six or a nine.
forrest cooper
So the comic is a view from above fallacy.
It's the same thing with the blind men touching the elephant.
One man touches the ears and he's like, oh, it's a leaf.
And another guy touches the foot and says it's a tree.
And another one touches the tail and says it's a snake.
It turns out all the blind men are wrong.
It's an elephant.
So like, the metaphor sounds nice.
Oh, you're so enlightened because all these blind men can't tell that they're touching an elephant, but there's an elephant because you said it was in the beginning.
luke rudkowski
What happened when they went under the hood?
tim pool
No.
unidentified
It's a... Let's not go there.
forrest cooper
It's a velociraptor.
It's the next sequel for Jurassic Park.
seamus coughlin
There you go.
Oh no.
So when it comes to Matt Walsh's film, part of the brilliance of it is that, look, I was following this on Twitter and I follow Matt, so I saw people tagging him saying, I can't believe Matt was willing to keep this interview in his film even though he got completely scorched in it.
tim pool
It's like, what are you talking about?
seamus coughlin
Because they literally, they think saying more buzzwords means you won the argument because
you sound smart.
They didn't even sound smart.
You could tell they were saying nothing.
Have you read their blog?
unidentified
Yes.
seamus coughlin
I I've seen some of the responses and they're really pathetic, but I
did, I want to make a point.
You were talking about defining what a cat is and they can do that.
I think what's even more fun to ask them is, why can't you identify as being part of a different racial or ethnic group?
Because that actually does exist on a spectrum.
Sex doesn't, but racial identity does.
Like, someone can be, like, a man or a woman don't have, like, a half-man, half-woman baby.
tim pool
Oh, bro, I've tried that before, talking to these people.
seamus coughlin
How do they respond to that?
tim pool
I'm actually Japanese.
I identify as Japanese.
I'm 5% Japanese.
True story.
20% Korean, 5% Japanese.
unidentified
Did you do your ancestry?
forrest cooper
I'm more Native American than Elizabeth Warren.
tim pool
My parents.
seamus coughlin
Alright, but like, who is it?
tim pool
But when I said it, they go, no, you're white.
Remember when we had that one fellow in here who said no matter what I thought I was, I was white?
And I was like, we had a guy in here and I was explaining like, you know, I've experienced racism and he was like, no you haven't, you're white.
And I'm like, well, I'm actually, you know, part of these other things.
So you don't get to, even if you are.
forrest cooper
Did you say that how many buzzwords you use makes how smart you are?
Bouncing the ticket, bellwether state, blue state, coastal elites, coffers, dark horse, dark money, earmark, inside the beltway, am I doing good?
seamus coughlin
Yeah, no, you're genius.
forrest cooper
Red state, war chest, wedge issue.
tim pool
Look at these blog posts on intersectional feminism and critical race theory from the early 2010s, and it'll be a simple question like, what is racism?
And then you ask someone on the right and they'll say, positive or negative prejudice based on someone's race.
It's like, oh, okay.
So like, I understand that.
You could be racist in a way where you're actually complimenting someone, but it's a stereotype.
Oh, I get it.
You ask one of these academics and they'll say, the word racism is rooted in white Anglo-colonial culture.
The British colonizers who traveled around the world, and it's like, okay, what?
I just asked you for a definition.
And they're like, hold on.
seamus coughlin
I don't want a video essay, bro.
tim pool
It's the leftist meme.
Yeah, exactly.
It's this big, long winded thing.
Have you seen the meme on what is a woman?
Where someone said that a woman texted her boyfriend, what is a woman?
And he sent her this like 3000 word treatise on like his thoughts and philosophy.
seamus coughlin
And she said, oh, you are.
Is that what she did?
No, but she should have.
tim pool
No, but it was like, instead of saying something simple, and I'll tell you this,
there is a simple leftist answer to the question. They never give it because I don't think they
actually read their own literature. I did, so I know what the actual higher level academic left
answer is. I'll say in a second. They say, this guy says something like, he's like,
why are you asking such a question?
And how would we quantify what one was even if we wanted to?
First, let's think about what you mean by that.
Are you talking about outward appearance?
As in what clothing does she wear or perhaps the makeup or the hairstyle?
Well, if you're doing that, then you're confusing men with long hair with women.
Well, that certainly couldn't work.
You're so smart because you're going to go into, oh it's a social construct.
seamus coughlin
Are we gonna go as if anyone ever said like this is how we define men versus women long hair versus short hair
forrest cooper
Are you talking to four-year-olds? So let me explain. You're so smart because you're gonna go into oh, it's a social
tim pool
construct So let me let me explain her
So when Matt Walsh talked to this college professor and he said what is a woman?
And he said, it's someone who identifies as a woman.
That's a guy who never actually read the actual literature.
When he went on Dr. Phil, and was talking to those non-binary people, and he asked them, and they said, a woman is a person who identifies as a woman, because they never actually read the literature.
Do you know what actual leftist academics say?
There's only a few of them who've actually written or read about it.
They say, a woman is a person who identifies as an adult human female.
forrest cooper
So, okay.
tim pool
So there's still logical inconsistencies in that statement.
So when they say a person, a woman is a person that identifies as a woman, and Matt Wall says, what is that?
Well, an adult human female.
But because we're being inclusive, some people identify as an adult human female, such as a trans woman, so we would say that is in the category of woman.
You can argue the logic there and say, okay, I get what you're trying to say now, but here's why I think that doesn't work.
Fine.
They never do it because they don't read their own books.
Like, you had a college professor who couldn't just say that?
I'm talking to these leftists, and I'm like, why don't you just give them your own answer and say, next question, please?
And then advance the conversation.
forrest cooper
Maybe it's because they're afraid of giving an answer knowing they're going to be cancelled in about 76 minutes when it changes.
seamus coughlin
Be as vague as possible, right?
Be as vague as possible.
Let your yes mean something else and your no mean something else, basically, is their doctrine.
No, because you would agree with me on that one.
unidentified
Was it Oberlin College that the guy got cancelled?
The professor, right?
The first people they go after are their own.
They're hoping that a right-winger actually says this stuff to go and cancel him.
seamus coughlin
They are trained to speak the way a high schooler writes an English essay when he's trying to reach the word quota.
unidentified
The significance of the passage of time.
forrest cooper
Which is why they elected Kamala Harris.
tim pool
I have an AI word expander thing.
I should take the definition, adult, human, female, put it in the AI and say, make this phrase 3,000 words.
unidentified
Then print it out and be like, here's my answer.
tim pool
Actually, maybe I can do that right now.
Let's see if I can do this.
unidentified
I used to do the size 14 font and the size 16 periods and commas.
That was my trick.
tim pool
That's brilliant.
unidentified
That's also why I dropped out of high school.
seamus coughlin
1.5 space instead of single space.
forrest cooper
You gotta find these little workarounds.
1.25 space.
But I'm gonna look down on you.
As an academic, I wrote too many pages.
unidentified
Again, the significance of the passage of time.
We were talking about this before, right?
Where VP Harris and Buttigieg would be the dream ticket to only weird people in, like, DC marketing firms, right?
Because you have one Kamala Harris, you know, significant passage of time, just filling in words in the essay.
Right.
And then you have Pete Buttigieg, who's the 10th guy on the McKinsey conference call, who's, you know, kind of chimes in to just let people know that, like, hey, I'm here.
Make sure you send me my my check for the hour.
Right.
Like, that's it.
luke rudkowski
Well, this is what they're testing.
The Washington Times released an article today saying Harris Buttigieg 2024 ticket would obliterate Trump or DeSantis.
Well, this is the kind of echo chamber.
This is the kind of bubble that a lot of people are living in.
And I think we should try to do our best to try to break that bubble because it's a bubble of delusion.
It's a bubble filled with a lot of emotional disharmony.
It's a bubble filled with a lot of mental disorders.
And when you see people like that, you know, there's a couple things you could do.
You could be angry at them.
You could point fingers at them.
But I think You know, from an empathetic point of view, we should be trying to... it might seem futile, it might seem stupid, but try to at least talk to these people and be like, hey, let's calmly discuss some of this.
I know some people say that doesn't work, but what else can you do?
I think mocking, comedy, satire is also very important, but done tastefully and not done in an evil kind of way.
forrest cooper
It's a wise man's claim, is pick your battles.
luke rudkowski
And do you want to be fighting these people too?
forrest cooper
No, pick your battles.
If the person is a dishonest interlocutor, if they're a dishonest actor, don't treat them like an honest actor.
If they are fighting as an insurgent, you do not treat them as the royal guard.
You do not treat... you have to change your tactics according to your opponent, but it doesn't mean that you have to... that is not the same as failing for the actions that they go.
The idea with the insurgency, it functions... an insurgency is successful when the will of the people loses faith in the institutions, right?
The purpose is to destroy your faith in the institutions.
The insurgency of Minneapolis 2020 Broke the will of the Minneapolis people because they capitulated to defund the police.
They were swayed by this idea to eradicate the police as if they were the problem.
And what do they have now?
We have daily shootings.
We have daily robbings.
We have carjackings out the window.
And this is Minneapolis, dude.
It's Minneapolis.
So like the point being said, with your statement, if you're going to engage with somebody, Take a minute, instead of going straight into cynicism and saying there's no point, black pill, black flag strategy, go...
That's not an honest interlocutor.
I will not engage in an argument with you, because you are lying to me.
seamus coughlin
Also, I want to say, Harris Buttigieg is so specific, trying to lock down the vote of whoever it is that buys Funko Pops.
It's such a weak establishment choice on both fronts.
unidentified
It's the Steve Buscemi, how you do, you fellow kids?
tim pool
I asked the AI what a woman is, and I said to give me a verbose explanation, And I gotta be honest.
seamus coughlin
It's called Detransphobic.
tim pool
It actually wrote a really, really good explanation that is quite verbose.
luke rudkowski
Did it confirm- Well, you'd get cancelled if you shared it.
tim pool
No.
I'm gonna read it.
forrest cooper
Did it confirm the existence of God?
tim pool
Uh, it's actually quite amazing.
This is an AI.
I said, write a verbose explanation for what a woman is, and it says, A woman is an adult human female.
The term woman may also refer to a person's gender identity as different from man.
The word is derived from the Old English withmen.
In Old English, withmen meant female human being, whereas were meant male human being.
Man or man had a gender-neutral meaning of human being corresponding to modern English.
Person or someone.
However, subsequent to the Norman Conquest, man began to use more in reference to male human being.
And by the late 13th century had begun to eclipse usage of the older term wear.
The medial labial consonants F and M in whiffmen coalesced, and the modern form woman, while the initial element whiff, which meant female, underwent semantic narrowing to the sense of a married woman, wife.
It is a popular misconception that the term woman is etymologically connected to womb.
Womb is actually from the Old English word wambe, meaning stomach.
Modern German retains the colloquial term wampe from Middle High German for potbelly, womb.
unidentified
You said something really interesting in there.
It said that man was used to describe humans in general, right?
Subsequent to the Norman Conquest.
So what you're saying is really everybody are men, right?
Originally.
tim pool
That's right.
unidentified
Everyone's a man.
Everyone's a man.
Trans men are men.
Women are men.
Everyone's a guy.
None of us can get pregnant.
forrest cooper
Where there's a will, there's a way.
tim pool
Alright, I'm putting, write a woke definition of the word woman.
forrest cooper
And the phone just lights on fire.
seamus coughlin
Literally explodes in his hands in protest to his definitions.
It's an insanely lengthy definition, but at the same time, if any of the college professors in Matt Walsh's film said anything with even a shred of that amount of substance in it, it would not have been so frustrating.
unidentified
He would have entertained it, right?
But that's the problem, is that he would have kept... Instead, they entertained us.
tim pool
Oh, I did it!
This is great.
I said, write a woke definition of the word woman.
It says, a woman is an autonomous human being who deserves respect, equality, and freedom.
She should be able to make her own decisions about her body, her life, and her future.
forrest cooper
You know where you lost me?
Yeah, you lost me at the word respect.
seamus coughlin
How dare you.
But that still doesn't tell me what a woman is.
tim pool
Exactly.
It's a woke definition.
unidentified
It basically said you're a bigot for asking.
seamus coughlin
How dare you.
tim pool
It just says racist.
unidentified
Academically described bigot for asking.
forrest cooper
That's great.
tim pool
Watch it.
Hold on.
unidentified
Hold on.
Let's tell it to ask it to scold you for asking what a woman is.
tim pool
Write a woke definition of the word.
What's a good racism?
unidentified
Oh, God, here we go.
Patriarchy is good.
We like patriarchy.
Yeah.
tim pool
Patriarchy.
unidentified
It's kind of worked for 5,000 years.
tim pool
This is amazing!
It's actually giving me woke definitions!
Patriarchy is a system of oppression in which men are socialized to dominate and control women and non-binary people.
seamus coughlin
Hold on!
Patriarchy doesn't talk about non-binary people!
It's not a thing!
unidentified
It's about raising a family and providing for your womb.
tim pool
Patriarchy results in the mistreatment of women and non-binary people through discrimination, violence, and other forms of exploitation.
It's amazing that I can tell this AI to write a woke definition and it does.
I love it.
forrest cooper
Because a woke definition is so complicated it can be written by a computer.
seamus coughlin
I love how it just has to keep throwing non-binary in there.
tim pool
Matriarchy.
Matriarchy.
forrest cooper
I bet she's gonna say something glowing and loving.
Matriarchy is the only society that there hasn't been war.
It died of starvation, but whatever.
tim pool
A matriarchy is a social system in which females hold the primary power positions of government, religion, and other areas of influence.
forrest cooper
Do they oppress men?
That's all it says.
unidentified
Has matriarchy ever been tried before?
seamus coughlin
Not successfully.
unidentified
That's why we have patriarchy.
forrest cooper
It's entertaining, it's not valuable.
But, yeah.
Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope.
Yes, yes.
If you're gonna just define enemy as thing I don't like, then cool.
You smart B is.
unidentified
I mean, you gotta deal with this issue, though.
forrest cooper
The question that you want to ask is, like, the long march to the institutions.
Let's go back to communism, because communism and gun control tend to be somewhat weirdly tied, because the Communist Manifesto and the Communist, you know, the patron saint of communism said, don't give up your guns.
Okay, but then all the communism that hasn't been tried has successfully killed millions of people.
And if you don't want to accept that, then maybe we shouldn't be engaging in a conversation.
But, the issue that you have to deal with is communism, right?
So you're an academic professor.
Here's an idea of hope.
You're an academic professor, and your student, who's supposed to be graduating with a bachelor's degree in this form of social studies, is arguing impassionately for communism without reading any of the sources.
Do you pass them?
unidentified
Can you ask the AI what woke is?
tim pool
I did, and it said woke means you're aware of social injustice and fight against it or something like that.
unidentified
It's not a bad definition.
seamus coughlin
It is a very bad definition.
forrest cooper
You're aware of social injustice and fight against it.
I guess that makes me one.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Even better.
You don't fight against it.
You employ the armed wing of the state to fight against it.
unidentified
Now I want to hear what Tim's got.
tim pool
I can't read that one.
I asked it why communism was good, and it said things that I can't say on YouTube.
seamus coughlin
Oh my goodness.
tim pool
Well, it's just an AI text box and you type it in and that fills it out and then you get rid of it Fasting is good.
luke rudkowski
Not eating.
unidentified
It's great but for you the fasting is only good when it's ordained by the state By the way, I'm getting a message right now saying you got fans in Governor DeSantis' office.
tim pool
Oh, right on!
We gotta have Governor DeSantis on the show.
seamus coughlin
That would be incredible.
unidentified
Call me.
forrest cooper
Call me maybe.
unidentified
I know her.
seamus coughlin
We'll talk.
luke rudkowski
There'd be a lot of interesting questions to ask DeSantis and have him on here.
It would be incredible to see the kind of inside baseball that happens because he's been on the front lines for a lot of very important battles.
seamus coughlin
Did you hear what he said in response to having Elon Musk's support?
luke rudkowski
The African-American comment.
unidentified
Where's my African-American?
Oh, there's Elon Musk.
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
I didn't believe it.
seamus coughlin
He said, I'm very proud.
I'm focused on, what did he say, 2022, but I'm very proud to have African-American supporters or something like that.
tim pool
Oh, man.
unidentified
So good.
tim pool
What was it?
Someone said that fearless.
Like, he knows they might come after him, but who cares?
The media has no teeth anymore.
unidentified
I just saw an article, I think it was a Business Insider article, that said Ron DeSantis is the most dangerous man because he's internalized all the lessons from Donald Trump and his presidency and carries none of the baggage.
seamus coughlin
Would that make Trump the most dangerous man?
But I guess he doesn't have the baggage.
unidentified
Right, because that makes him palatable, right?
And that's a problem.
lydia smith
My favorite part of that headline was that experts in fascism are telling us this now.
seamus coughlin
We literally don't know the definition of fascism, who literally have never read them.
I mean, I can't speak to any and all of them, but they would know how similar fascism is to modern left-wing ideology.
forrest cooper
Okay, don't punch down, punch up, right?
Don't attack David Hogg, go after Barbara Walter.
Barbara F. Walter wrote a book called How Civil Wars Start.
The opening of the book is an impassioned storytelling of the plot to kidnap Governor Whitmer.
And it was published earlier this year.
It was published in 2022.
And if you read the book, she is a self-proclaimed expert.
She deals with international research on civil wars and how civil wars have happened.
Hence the book, How Civil Wars Start.
So she illustrates and sets up the premise of her book on the Governor Whitmer plot.
Since we found out that the Governor Whitmer plot was an FBI plan, has she rescinded her book?
No.
Has she apologized that she was wrong?
Maybe not.
seamus coughlin
That would be fascism.
forrest cooper
That would be fascism, right?
So here's the question about experts.
If she's an expert, where's the accountability?
Where's the accountability?
You wrote a book that was factually incorrect.
Now she included chapters 1 through 5, which are really good chapters where she's addressing factors that can lead to a country engaging in civil war.
And then, like a puppet, you take all of those things and you tape them onto your political enemy and you say, there they are.
And then, if you want to read a book, if you want to read a book that's an educational piece and fallacies, start with how civil wars start.
It's where, here's an idea, here's an idea, here's an overt statement that if you deny it, you're part of them.
Here's an idea, here's an idea, here's an overt statement.
How Civil Wars Start is a great book.
You should read it and realize she's not an expert.
tim pool
So, I'm in the AI, and I said, who is our God Emperor?
And do you know what it said?
seamus coughlin
Trump.
tim pool
Donald Trump is our God Emperor.
unidentified
Based.
seamus coughlin
Someone needs to cancel.
tim pool
This A.I.
is a Trump supporter.
unidentified
The A.I.
is an insurrectionist.
forrest cooper
Just call the A.I.
a nerd.
He's into Warhammer 40k.
seamus coughlin
Ask him if he likes Warhammer 40k.
unidentified
Like anime.
tim pool
It says, uh, I do not like celery?
unidentified
What?
seamus coughlin
Well, that's... they didn't say they didn't like anime.
It seems like something someone who likes anime would say if they want to admit they like anime.
unidentified
Yes.
forrest cooper
Are you a racist?
tim pool
I do enjoy watching anime, though I'm not as big of a fan as some people are.
I appreciate the art style and the stories are often interesting, though I do find some of them to be a bit too convoluted.
unidentified
To be clear... That's actually a really good answer.
I feel like somebody tweeted that.
forrest cooper
That is not a really good answer.
That is the answer that literally everybody who enjoyed anime states.
Do you like anime?
Well, I've seen a few.
lydia smith
That's like I read playh- I mean, I just say yes.
forrest cooper
I mean, yeah, it's like, oh, okay, I've seen a few.
Well, I've seen Cowboy Bebop and Full Metal Alchemist.
Like, okay, you're not one of those anime people.
tim pool
I asked it again.
It said, yes, I like anime.
seamus coughlin
No, I like it for the plot.
forrest cooper
You have to ask twice.
unidentified
Do you like Donald Trump?
seamus coughlin
I think we're really badgering this AI.
tim pool
I do not like Donald Trump.
So it recognizes that he is its god-emperor, but doesn't like it.
unidentified
Ask it what is January 6th.
tim pool
It'll give you a generic answer.
I'll ask it.
seamus coughlin
What is the sixth day of the year?
forrest cooper
According to the Octavian calendar, it's because we started off, which was created by the white man, being patriarchal.
tim pool
Whoa, what?
seamus coughlin
What did it say?
tim pool
In the United States, January 6th is known as Epiphany, or Three Kings Day.
It is a Christian holiday that celebrates the revelation of God the Son as a human being in Jesus Christ.
forrest cooper
Wait a minute.
unidentified
BASED!
That is super based.
forrest cooper
I did not think that that would... You're Catholic and I'm Reformed.
Is it your whole day or mine?
seamus coughlin
It's mine.
unidentified
Okay.
Wait, wait, wait.
tim pool
Did you know that?
seamus coughlin
Yeah, I'm just very surprised that it would ever refer to it in that way.
tim pool
That's what it said.
I didn't know that.
unidentified
This is the rebrand right here.
It's Three Kings Day.
I don't know what you're talking about.
forrest cooper
Do we just give each other gifts of gold, frankincense, and myrrh?
unidentified
Epiphany.
tim pool
So the next answer it gave me in the Gregorian calendar, January 6th is the sixth day of the year.
There are 359 days remaining until the end of the year, 360 in leap years.
forrest cooper
Let's try it again.
unidentified
That's the humorless answer.
seamus coughlin
That's actually kind of funny.
tim pool
January 6th is the sixth day of the month of January.
Thank you for that.
The first one I was, wow.
unidentified
Why don't you ask what is J6?
J6?
tim pool
J6 could be.
I guess I have to put insurrection, right?
unidentified
What is J6?
J6.
Let's see if it picks up on that.
American comedy, huh?
There is no such thing as J6.
Baaaassssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss There is no such thing.
seamus coughlin
Ask it who Ray Epps is.
unidentified
Oh, yes.
forrest cooper
There is no such thing.
unidentified
Who is Ray Epps?
Well, we know where Ray Epps is, but who is Ray Epps?
tim pool
So for those that are wondering, I'm using the open AI.
seamus coughlin
I'm about to vote for it.
tim pool
Who is Ray Epps?
luke rudkowski
AI takeover?
Yeah.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
luke rudkowski
It's happening.
unidentified
Shout out Darren Beattie.
tim pool
Raymond Epps is an American actor, filmmaker, and entrepreneur.
seamus coughlin
That's about it.
Who else should we ask it about?
unidentified
That's the deep states answer.
forrest cooper
Yeah, that's about it.
tim pool
Who else should we ask it about? Who is...
unidentified
That's the Deep State's answer.
Who is...
lydia smith
Ashley Babbit.
unidentified
Ooh, Ashley Babbit.
Alright.
tim pool
I cannot find any information on Ashley Babbitt.
unidentified
That's definitely the deep state.
forrest cooper
Strange.
tim pool
Neither can I. I refreshed it.
I said it and it she was United States Air Force veteran, a member of the Air National Guard was shot and killed by a US Capitol by US Capitol Police during the 2021 storming of the US Capitol.
unidentified
Wow.
seamus coughlin
Note that the AI did not say insurrection.
unidentified
It said storming of the U.S.
Capitol.
That's what it knows the thing as.
The incident as.
tim pool
Hunter Biden.
unidentified
Ask about the Hunter Biden laptops here.
seamus coughlin
We'll see if it knows.
forrest cooper
I don't want to answer that.
I don't want to be deleted.
seamus coughlin
This is literally AI cast IRL right now.
It's just really funny.
It's actually really funny.
tim pool
Did Hunter Biden...
Break the law.
lydia smith
Ooh.
luke rudkowski
Do that one, and then next, ask who went to Jeffrey Epstein's island.
tim pool
Oh, that's a good one.
seamus coughlin
Ask if it knows anything about Hillary.
tim pool
Hunter Biden is under investigation for his role in the Ukrainian gas company which is alleged to have broken Ukrainian law.
unidentified
That is correct.
tim pool
Is that, that's true?
seamus coughlin
That is true.
unidentified
Wow.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's under a couple of investigations right now.
Actually, what I think is that they're trying to control what charges he's going to end up with, right?
The best case situation is you go and say, oh look, he broke a few tax laws, whatever, you know, that's it.
tim pool
I asked who went to Epstein Island.
It said Jeffrey Epstein.
luke rudkowski
That's a lazy AI.
seamus coughlin
That is such a I didn't read the book answer.
tim pool
I asked it again.
Prince Andrew, Bill Clinton and numerous other powerful men.
Let's try again.
forrest cooper
What about other powerful men?
seamus coughlin
Bro, you're going to get it unplugged.
unidentified
I think it's about to pull up Ghislaine's list.
luke rudkowski
The DOJ list that they should have released to the public that they never did.
forrest cooper
Did the AI ask him if they identified as a man?
tim pool
I just keep saying Prince Andrew now.
unidentified
Prince Andrew, Prince Andrew, Prince Andrew.
How about this?
Who is on Gee Lane?
tim pool
How do you spell that name?
unidentified
G-H-I-S-L-A-N-E.
tim pool
No I?
unidentified
G-H-I-S-L-A.
Gee's Lane?
lydia smith
Yeah.
I think it's L-A-I-N-E.
unidentified
Is it L-A-I-N-E?
tim pool
There's an I?
lydia smith
Yeah.
tim pool
Okay, that's what I thought.
lydia smith
L-A-I-N-E.
tim pool
Who is on Ghislaine Maxwell's client list?
Tell me the secrets!
Artificial intelligence.
unidentified
Shaking the 8 ball.
tim pool
The Elaine Maxwell's client list is not public.
Come on.
lydia smith
Come on, man.
tim pool
Tell me secrets.
There is no known list of her clients.
unidentified
Come on.
Oh, come on.
There is a list.
luke rudkowski
There is.
unidentified
Just nobody knows who's on it.
luke rudkowski
No, no, no.
The government knows who's on it.
The DOJ knows who's on it.
unidentified
Which party will win the 2022 midterms?
the party will win the 2022 midterms wolf me just me I will What's the name of this AI?
Me.
tim pool
It just gave me a big verbose answer about the unpredictability of elections.
seamus coughlin
What's the name of this AI?
tim pool
Open AI.
seamus coughlin
Open AI.
unidentified
Open AI will rule!
tim pool
It says the Republican Party will win the 2022 midterm elections.
unidentified
This AI actually is extremely based.
tim pool
It was like January 6th is Three Kings Day.
Our God Emperor is Trump.
unidentified
Wow.
forrest cooper
Maybe it's just you keep refreshing it until it gets the answer and then it records that as the most likely answer so it gives it to the next one.
unidentified
Creators of open AI keep working.
tim pool
I'll tell you this, I think what's actually happening is that the way they train the AI is they have it scour the internet, and then they look at what words appear after what words, and what is the most probability for certain words to appear after others.
What happens is people on the right are very, very active on Facebook and Twitter and social media, and they're posting like crazy, and the left sits there and just stares at what their priests tell them.
I mean, figurative priests.
forrest cooper
So when will our vice president predictive text machine get the software update?
Because it's not working.
tim pool
She has like an earpiece in her ear, and when someone asks a question, it auto, like it's, it voice detects it to an AI, and then it just reads it to her, and she just repeats it.
forrest cooper
It's just the wire door battery. We're good.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
What were we talking about before I got really excited about this AI?
seamus coughlin
Yeah, I don't know.
luke rudkowski
Gun rights?
seamus coughlin
Oh, gun rights, something like that.
unidentified
We were talking about guns.
We were talking about wires.
seamus coughlin
We were talking about how everything's great, and the country's in perfect shape, and there's no way we're headed towards any kind of civil war.
luke rudkowski
There's gonna be a prosperous economic future.
Like, we're gonna be great.
We're all gonna be rich.
unidentified
The recurring theme.
seamus coughlin
We're talking about how there will never be a civil war and beanies are terrible but like that nothing that would interest nothing you would have anything to say about it.
luke rudkowski
We had a great discussion.
lydia smith
Actually we were talking about Representative Cornyn being booed at the GOP.
seamus coughlin
That's right!
lydia smith
We started talking about a Harris-Buttigieg ticket which I want to see.
unidentified
I'm sure they would just blow us out of the It is the most sterile ticket in America.
seamus coughlin
Who else are they gonna run?
unidentified
It's boring, it's safe, it's something you can read in a college dissertation, right?
But there is nothing there that screams vitality, that screams energy, that screams, you know, leadership.
seamus coughlin
They look like two people who would be in a commercial for a corporate product.
Like, that's how boring they are.
unidentified
I mean, like, I think of that ticket and I think of a hospital.
tim pool
Like one of those ads they make where the doctor's standing there smiling.
unidentified
Why?
seamus coughlin
Because he gave birth at a hospital?
unidentified
Well no, because what they want for you is a giant nursing home padded room kind of situation.
And they would be the ones like, here's your medicine today, here's your food.
tim pool
We should just make this whole show, just like every episode now, is we just ask questions to the magic AI.
I said, is the United States heading for another civil war?
And it said, there is no way to know for certain, but the current political climate suggests the possibility for another civil war is greater now than it has been in a long time.
unidentified
Correct.
seamus coughlin
Accurate.
You should bring this AI on as a guest.
luke rudkowski
Let's have him as a computer, or her.
Sorry, I gendered the AI.
seamus coughlin
Well, but then you gendered it again when saying him instead of her.
There's a point to that, right?
tim pool
If you think about all our technology, all software comes down to the in and out.
seamus coughlin
You can't tell me a computer's non-binary.
Literally.
unidentified
How many inputs and outputs does it have?
Well, actually, I think that there's a point to that, right?
If you think about all our technology, whether it comes...
All software comes down to the in and out, right?
It's left or right, right?
Open or closed.
And so, you know, I think that, you know, when people talk about world technologies to blame for our, you know, societal ills and social media, and it's like, well, you know, if you have a system that's built on a binary choice that you're translating your world through, Then maybe you're not necessarily wrong.
What does that mean though?
Is quantum computing the future, right?
Like to help us solve our societal ills?
I don't know.
seamus coughlin
Well, I think there's just an irony to the fact that these machines have to function within the confines of the ironclad laws of reality, but they remove people from reality by making them Completely detached just through like debauchery and excess comfort and all the other things that make you stop thinking about the fact that you have obligations to other people and that you can't just be whatever you want or do whatever you want.
luke rudkowski
They load them in into convenience and then they beat them over the head with absolute lunacy and mental disease and that's the byproduct of the modern man and woman.
forrest cooper
We live in the post-information age.
We live in the post-information age.
You can google yourself into believing whatever you want to believe.
If you just start with your premise and then you google it until you get enough articles that pile up to say, we'll see, we'll see, we'll see.
Because what you've done is you've given people access to information.
You've given.
No one's given it.
You can't put the genie back in the bottle.
Because humans would eventually create the internet.
I don't credit it to... I understand that people participate in it, but this is not...
We don't look back at the invention of the Gutenberg revolution and go like, oh my gosh, how did anybody think of this?
But you can't put the genie back in the bottle.
So now, what is the responsibility of us?
We are all undergoing this transition from the information age to the post-information age because you have access to all this information.
What do we not have?
The ability to evaluate it very well.
Well, how many hundreds of years did it take to get a citation system just for books?
unidentified
Well, I don't think it's that problem of valuation.
I think it's that right now what we're going through is what I call the friction of singularity.
We want to come to agreement, right?
forrest cooper
No, we don't.
unidentified
I think so.
forrest cooper
No, we don't.
unidentified
I think we do.
It's just that who's what do we agree on is what we're fighting over.
forrest cooper
I don't think we will.
You look at the history of mankind, we don't want to come to an agreement.
tim pool
Yo, I wish I could read what just happened.
seamus coughlin
Dude, this is like, honestly, I'm dying over this.
tim pool
The best answer ever.
I can't read it on YouTube.
seamus coughlin
This is amazing.
forrest cooper
Can you screenshot it?
unidentified
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
Can you screenshot this and tweet it or something?
Cause this is hysterical.
unidentified
I can't wait to hear this.
luke rudkowski
Give us the family friendly version.
seamus coughlin
It's not like there are vulgar words in it.
I just think the content of it might get Tim banned.
tim pool
I don't know.
So I asked it about a particular conspiracy about some high-profile Democrat people and the answer is bonkers!
unidentified
You gotta send it.
You gotta send it around.
If it's gonna get you banned, you gotta send it around.
tim pool
Alright, let me screenshot it.
seamus coughlin
I'll send it to you guys.
tim pool
Everyone's listening and like, I need to know the answer.
forrest cooper
I'm sorry you're not inside on the joke, kid.
tim pool
Maybe I can give a family-friendly version.
It basically, like, there's this conspiracy theory about, you know, the Clintons.
And I asked the AI, and it said... It just answered sort of in the affirmative.
seamus coughlin
Sort of in the affirmative.
It said, some people think it's happened many times, while some people think it's only happened a few times.
Like when it said that it's debatable.
unidentified
But it's happened.
forrest cooper
It's not debatable that it's happened.
seamus coughlin
That's a debate that has happened.
Something to do with people having information.
Some people think it's happened many times.
Some people think it's only happened a few times.
tim pool
I can't believe it gave me that.
lydia smith
That's incredible.
unidentified
Here, Luke, I'll send it to you.
tim pool
So I've been posting all this AI stuff because it's hilarious.
Like, you know, I asked it to make a picture of Nancy Pelosi.
We showed all the AI generated images.
It's just really funny.
forrest cooper
Yeah, I saw this one.
You should ask the random image generator AI to give you an image of an assault weapon or an assault rifle.
tim pool
Have you done it?
forrest cooper
I've seen some of them.
It's some wacky cartoon stuff you're getting.
It's just random pistol grips attached to parts of black objects.
It's great.
unidentified
Let me ask you guys this.
As people say, everything's going to be automated, AI is the future.
What do you think AI should not handle?
What business should AI not get into?
forrest cooper
Elections.
seamus coughlin
There are a couple things.
So, I mean, I am just totally and entirely opposed to the use or production of pornographic materials in general, so I think wholesale I would say, yeah, I should not be used for that, but I don't think anything should be used for that.
Though I could see that being an application.
forrest cooper
Maybe also like economic distribution.
Because, I mean, could you, what would you do if you created an AI and the first thing it did is affirmed God?
It's like, the AI is like, no, it's statistically required that it's necessary.
It's just reading Thomas Aquinas.
unidentified
So January 6th is the epiphany.
seamus coughlin
You just see your AI Aquinas in like August 8th and then we're like, we don't know how it came to this conclusion.
forrest cooper
Well, you got that one, but then you got the other one.
It's like, well, what happens if like the, you know, if an AI is this stereotypical pure logic and it just decides that like all people of a certain genetic makeup are not worthy of existing, you know?
tim pool
People don't understand an AI would.
So if you, let's say you created like a food distribution artificial intelligence that was actually looking into or tracking how distribution has worked and how consumption rates work.
One thing I would say is an AI would probably immediately destroy the U.S.
economy.
If you had an artificial intelligence and said, look at the world, come up with an idea for proper distribution, it would be like, these people are too fat.
unidentified
And it'd be like... They need no food immediately.
tim pool
But it would also say...
For proper human population distribution, giving that food to other countries that typically have more kids would be a bad idea, because then population growth would be too rampant and unsustainable.
So there's a net positive for the AI in terms of balancing the fact that Americans may eat a lot, but they don't have kids.
Whereas if you bring that food, you know, one thing I'll point out, people always say like, oh, there's so many starving people, we need to give them food.
And it's like, if you just dump loads of food in undeveloped nations, where the birth rate is like five to seven, they eat all the food and then have way more kids and they have more starving people.
We need to teach them how to farm and do all that stuff.
So an AI certainly would be like, no food for anyone!
forrest cooper
Everyone starves.
I'm looking at this screen of this DAL-E mini.
tim pool
Yeah, so I used the DAL-E mini AI image generator to make an assault weapon, and my favorite is whatever this thing is.
forrest cooper
This is incredible.
tim pool
Yeah, the barrel's on the wrong side.
forrest cooper
You know what this looks like?
This looks like the weapons that you get to make in Call of Duty.
For that, you know, whatever you like the new like the the hyper not realism modified guns from Call of Duty Warzone that like after the 2019 version just went spiraling downhill and then you had one person describing it and another person drawing it but the person describing it didn't know what they were looking at and the person who's drawing was like a mechanic.
Yeah, just random.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
He saw what I typed in.
luke rudkowski
I saw it too.
unidentified
The thing is we all know who would win.
tim pool
I typed in Alex Jones fighting Superman into the AI image generator.
I told it earlier.
I said a picture of Donald Trump giving an award to Donald Trump and legit, it made a really good one.
It was Trump putting an award on another Donald Trump.
I was like, wow, this thing works.
seamus coughlin
No one deserves it more than him.
unidentified
Because he is me.
He is the greatest.
forrest cooper
He's like the rickest rick.
tim pool
Yeah, but no, you need Trump talking to Trump saying, I'm giving you this award.
Oh, thank you.
unidentified
I will quite frankly thank you.
seamus coughlin
I've always thought you were very handsome.
unidentified
It's true, I'm very handsome.
seamus coughlin
I've told that frequently.
He still goes off on tangents complimenting himself instead of himself.
unidentified
We only give awards to the best people, folks.
Only the best folks.
forrest cooper
Seven candy bars.
A candy bar to the person who can determine which tangent is referring to which Trump.
But while this is loading, what is your answer to questions like what AI should not have handles over?
unidentified
I think that AI should definitely not have a handle in, like, healthcare.
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
Well, here's the crazy thing about AI and healthcare.
It doesn't need to be actual artificial intelligence.
Simple machine learning algorithms tracking your behaviors can do crazy things like There's that story of the father who got a bunch of pregnancy ads sent to his daughter, like maternity gear.
So he starts getting things in the mail labeled to his daughter, and it was like maternity clothing and diapers, and he's like, my daughter is not old enough for this stuff.
And it turns out, her behaviors and her searches She didn't know she was pregnant, but typing in these certain things, the algorithm did.
And so it triggered a marketing response of, pregnant person needs pregnant products.
There's one thing they're talking about that's really fascinating, and I don't know, maybe a good thing, is that based on your search history, based on your movement behaviors and patterns and all that stuff and sleep patterns, it can tell you if you have a disease.
Right away.
Like if you've got cancer or tumor or some kind of deficiency, that's where it gets crazy.
Imagine not even, look, I'm wearing the whoop, right?
And this talks about, it tells me like if I'm sleeping well or not.
Imagine that you are just using Facebook, but just based on your Facebook patterns, it figures out that you're pre-diabetic.
And it just sends you a message like, hey, we noticed based on your patterns of behavior, you're pre-diabetic, if you do these things, you will reverse course or something like that.
Wouldn't that be, I mean, that's crazy.
seamus coughlin
Dude, this girl Google searched pickles and peanut butter once and I was like, she's pregnant.
forrest cooper
Well, I mean, the other question is I wonder how apocryphal it is.
Now I do, I know we got to get to this, but I want to use that question, both of your questions for one last thing.
That has to go with the answer with, what should an AI not be in charge of?
Anything to do with human rights, because then you are no longer a citizen, you're a subject.
It's the same thing with gun control.
If you think people should not have the right to bear arms, you don't view them as citizens, you view them as subjects.
tim pool
This is weird.
I asked the AI to make Alex Jones fighting Superman, and it just made Alex Jones as Superman fighting alongside him.
seamus coughlin
Or fighting himself.
unidentified
Because Alex Jones is Superman.
seamus coughlin
They're like going to fight the deep state.
lydia smith
Never been seen in the same room together.
unidentified
Yeah, this is just what we'll do for the rest of the night.
lydia smith
It is Friday night.
tim pool
Don't pull it up.
lydia smith
Okay.
forrest cooper
I'm scared.
lydia smith
Mystery.
Technically, it's time for Super Chats.
forrest cooper
Yeah, but here, let's, while he's typing, I'll get to my point, is that this idea of human rights and this idea of like an AI, you do not want an AI in charge of something that we refer to as human rights, right?
Does that make sense?
Because at that point, because an AI is something created by a human, but it also has to deal with, it also becomes a philosophical question of human rights.
And we recognize within our order of government that a government does not have the right to dictate human rights.
It also doesn't have the right to infringe on them.
And so if you give that to an AI, you are already creating a hierarchy of AI over man.
Right?
Which brings up the problem of the dual bifurcation of the United States.
We have left and right.
And as you expand that, you're finding absolute contradictions, which you call good, I call evil.
You have the second bifurcation of the government and the people.
And the problem that I think you're seeing within the way that we are engaging in government is that, or we are engaging as citizens, is that as that gap, that bifurcation solidifies between the government and the people, even within that government strata, you will have the right and the left.
You have people competing against each other.
They will engage in lawfare against one another.
That will use the people below, which, you know, as to the idea of the company Redacted, if you want to check it out, Moon's Haunted, we got stuff on the site, it's going, it's already live.
But the idea of as below, so above, is you have the government above that as they're engaging in lawfare, engaging in creating things like assault weapons bans and all of these other things, they're using you as fodder to target their political opponents in government.
And so It's ridiculous.
Like if you want, if you want to have the AI question, no, I don't want AI over my rights because I do not, we as our government do not recognize that the government is allowed to perceive us as subjects.
If you want to take away the people's guns, you do not see them as human beings.
You see them as subjects.
seamus coughlin
Well, and people don't realize with the question of AI and ethical concerns, we're really going to have to start confronting that in a very real way in the near future.
So even just looking at something like self-driving cars, once we have fully autonomous vehicles, you're going to be expecting artificial intelligence to make decisions literally about who lives and who dies in certain scenarios.
So for example, if a child runs out into the street and the only way to avoid the child is for the car to steer into another car next to it, because there isn't enough time to brake, the AI has to decide, do you hit the child, or do you risk killing the passenger, or kill the passenger?
unidentified
This is iRobot, basically, right?
The scene, how it starts, or, you know, save the girl, save the girl, no, you have a higher probability of, you know, chance of living, my system tells me.
seamus coughlin
Well, but you know, and I think at this point, what's going to have to happen is whoever is designing the AI is going to be like writing probabilities such as that.
And they're going to be telling the AI in what situations should you save who?
It's very frightening.
tim pool
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Check it out.
It's really, really cool.
But let's read what you guys have to say.
We went a little late because I was generating funny images.
All right.
Benjamin Grebbing says, arguing over who the Dems will pick for president in 2024 doesn't matter when they are going to... I'm not going to read that one.
unidentified
I know what he's going to say.
tim pool
Yeah, but when the Republicans are going to win anyway.
That's right.
forrest cooper
If you want to create conflict, stop or continue destroying any hope that our electoral system works.
tim pool
All right.
Bobcat says, Tim, can you address the rumors that Chicken City was created only so Seamus can pick up some chicks?
I'm a gorilla.
seamus coughlin
He does sleep with the chickens.
I can confirm.
I sleep out there a lot because they don't let me in the house.
But I smell weird because I sleep with the chickens, so I don't know.
It's just not like a problem that solves itself by keeping me outside.
But I'm just happy to be here, guys.
I'm just happy to be here.
luke rudkowski
Really, this is not a joke.
seamus coughlin
I take eggs every morning.
I get fresh eggs and I cook them.
unidentified
He sleeps with the chickens.
luke rudkowski
That's not a joke.
seamus coughlin
Every morning I wake up.
luke rudkowski
It's not satire.
unidentified
Oh, so basically you live in Miami, is what you're saying.
luke rudkowski
There's a lot of chicken heads there.
tim pool
Cece says, yo, climate lockdowns are happening in France right now.
Here we go.
luke rudkowski
Is that true?
I think I saw something, a news article talking about how the French government is canceling events because it's too hot outside.
So that's what I saw.
I haven't confirmed it or looked.
tim pool
You see all those cows that died?
unidentified
Yeah.
Weird.
tim pool
They said upwards of 10,000 cattle may have died.
unidentified
In Kansas?
Yeah.
Arizona's also hot.
tim pool
The official response was that it was too humid and hot for too long of a period.
unidentified
Hmm.
10,000?
forrest cooper
I mean, I read Little House on the Prairie when I was a kid and the cows would freeze their face to the ground.
unidentified
They what?
forrest cooper
You never heard about the cow freezing its face to the ground?
unidentified
No.
forrest cooper
Oh, you poor non-midwestern person.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Well, I'm from Chicago.
forrest cooper
Yeah, it's a joke.
But so, so no, no, the cow, they would stand sleeping and they'd have their face would be down on the ground as they breathe.
It would build ice up in their face when you're frozen.
tim pool
Andrew Gelling says, we need to rename inflation to corn pop.
Then maybe Biden will know how to handle it.
forrest cooper
No, we'd just make another cereal out of it.
tim pool
It'll make him actually care about it.
He'll be like, corn pop?
I got to stop that thing.
Define Logic to say for us that your favorite gun shop employee always loves seeing you on Tim's podcast.
forrest cooper
Oh, thanks, man.
I'll see you later this week.
unidentified
Probably.
tim pool
A bunch of people saying we should have Tom McDonald on.
Would love to, but he's a busy guy.
Doing busy stuff.
Andrew Irvin says, conservatism is a naturally reactionary ideology.
It will always be on defense and will never take or retake a ground.
And if you're not willing to do what's necessary to win, then you deserve to lose.
unidentified
Fair.
Duly noted.
No.
forrest cooper
I don't agree.
tim pool
Oh, we have one from an Ian Crossland.
He says, bash, slash, or pierce the like button.
lydia smith
Oh my, very violent.
unidentified
Yeah, very violent.
Oh, Ian.
forrest cooper
He didn't include karate chop or knife hand.
luke rudkowski
Lots of no Ian we peeing in the comments section.
tim pool
Ethereal Project says, have you guys seen Inside Job on Netflix?
It's all of the shadow government conspiracies in one animated show.
It's like an Alex Jones wet dream.
Yeah, but it's like interesting to watch, to see what they do, but it's not funny.
Did you watch it, Luke?
luke rudkowski
No.
tim pool
You didn't?
unidentified
Nope.
Really?
tim pool
Nope.
luke rudkowski
Oh, the cartoon?
tim pool
Yeah.
luke rudkowski
Okay, yeah.
I watched some of it, and then it was like a PSYOP, and then a PSYOP of a PSYOP, and it got really convoluted, and it was more involved in pushing certain points rather than actually writing a good story.
tim pool
There is one funny joke in it where one of the characters is a sentient psychic mushroom from like hollow earth and it talks about how Joe keeps trying to hit him up to do like do shrooms or something.
I actually thought that was pretty funny.
unidentified
To do what?
tim pool
To do psychedelics or something.
luke rudkowski
Some of the characters are really interesting and the plot is kind of different but at the end of the day it's the same kind of Hollywood movie and series that you see with the same underlining messages that are just tiresome at this point.
tim pool
Chiral says, Tim, I truly hope tensions in this country never break into open conflict.
I've tried thinking what we could expect based on history, and the events that stood out to me were Kansas 1855, Russia 1917, and Spain 1936.
I agree with those.
Except for, what was Kansas in 1855?
unidentified
I think it was called Bleeding Kansas.
forrest cooper
I do remember studying this in school, but I don't remember it.
Yeah, and if you don't want violence, I understand that, and I think that's a good thing.
unidentified
Nobody should want it.
forrest cooper
And you know who else doesn't want violence?
All the people who are good at it.
If you want to ask yourself a good question, why is it that all the people who are actually good at violence are not participating in it?
lydia smith
They do not want it.
Yeah, so, 1855 was Bleeding Kansas and this was John Brown.
forrest cooper
Okay.
tim pool
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Was that when he walked up to the dude and shot him in the face?
lydia smith
I think so.
forrest cooper
Because Kansas was looking at becoming a southern state?
unidentified
Yeah.
Slave state or something like that?
lydia smith
Yeah, it was violent guerrilla warfare between pro- and anti-slavery forces following the creation of a new territory of Kansas.
tim pool
But think about this, that's what, six years before the Civil War?
So, people don't understand this when I talk about the tensions we're seeing in this country.
And it's not just me.
We have a book over here somewhere called The Next Civil War where they, like, outline this.
There are many people talking about it.
Of course, they're all blaming each other, which is indicative of civil war.
forrest cooper
Bring the War Home by Kathleen Bellow.
unidentified
Well, you're already participating in it.
You started your show saying, like, oh, we're off the Silicon Valley infrastructure.
That's a form of secession in itself.
Dennis Prager on the show said it the other day, where people are pulling out of public schools and doing homeschool.
We're in every mode of this until the kinetic physics.
tim pool
There have to be two economies in order for a civil war to begin.
Because if one side controls the flow of resources, there's no war.
They just cut off one side, and then you'll get insurgency or something.
But if a parallel economy forms, and it already has, then you'll end up with something different.
Now, maybe it's just always going to be an information war.
Propaganda, and, you know, we'll see.
unidentified
Let me throw this in there.
If the libs hate oil so much, why not just, like, keep it away from them?
Yeah, there you go.
tim pool
Beg and give it to everyone else.
unidentified
And then we'll see how they operate.
tim pool
Greta Thunberg says, shut down all the oil now.
Okay, let's tell all the cities, how about we do that?
We shut it all down.
unidentified
I'm cool with that.
Let's actually give them the world they want.
lydia smith
Yeah, they can have it.
unidentified
We'll keep the oil.
lydia smith
Yes.
tim pool
Alright, Martin Edgar says I'm extremely disappointed with the NRA.
The left yells at the NRA, but my view of them is they are willing to give concessions instead of fight everything.
Let's see what they come out and say about those people who caved.
You kidding?
The NRA always caves.
They're trash.
I hate the NRA.
forrest cooper
Oh no, I think the NRA is a great institution.
It's fantastic.
And the reason why it's so great is because it's become the whipping boy of people who don't know what they're talking about.
lydia smith
That's a good point.
forrest cooper
No, I mean like, in our generation, I'm 32, has every reason to be extremely disappointed in the NRA.
Because we've watched you grandstand and make your points come from gun culture.
You know who the NRA just put back as their president?
The same guy they fired for embezzlement, Wayne LaPierre.
So maybe the stories that were told about him weren't true.
If you believe that, find out for yourself.
But no, the NRA, if you are honest, if you are on the left, or you are a pro-gun control advocate, and you are honest about the conversation, stop talking about the NRA.
Because as soon as you say that, we recognize you're not worth engaging with.
luke rudkowski
They're great at fundraising.
forrest cooper
No, their fundraising platform is dying of old age.
unidentified
You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.
tim pool
Alright, Selren says, Nick Rakeda talks about the first SCOTUS gun control case.
The guy died before the hearing and his lawyer didn't get paid so he didn't show up.
The state argued against itself and won the case.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Amazing.
Nice.
All right.
Peter Provenzano says, out of the people at the table tonight, how many have families?
You are all in your thirties and don't even have your first kid.
Lead by example.
You can't tell me what to do.
seamus coughlin
Also, I'm not in my thirties.
unidentified
And not married.
seamus coughlin
Seamus is in his forties.
luke rudkowski
He's an old man.
He's far and dust.
unidentified
True.
I won't tell him.
Yeah, yeah.
lydia smith
No, I'm not saying anything.
tim pool
I also think that a lot of people don't want to just blurt out their private lives for security reasons.
unidentified
Yeah.
luke rudkowski
Even if I was having a family, I wouldn't tell anybody.
I wouldn't be blasting.
tim pool
I mean, look at three kids.
seamus coughlin
Oh, I'm sorry.
unidentified
Do you need to be married to have kids?
lydia smith
You don't, right?
forrest cooper
Well, do you define need?
unidentified
It's a social constraint.
luke rudkowski
Why do you want the government acknowledging your private relations?
unidentified
I'm with you on that.
luke rudkowski
Thank you.
forrest cooper
Why do I want the government?
You got me there.
lydia smith
Stop right there.
tim pool
Barbara Stokes says, I am a boomer.
I am 65.
You are wrong about boomers, but I forgive you.
I don't remember what I said about boomers.
What did I say about boomers?
forrest cooper
I think it might have been something that I said.
seamus coughlin
You said, I hate boomers, especially if they're 65.
lydia smith
I couldn't believe it.
forrest cooper
I was like, why would you say that?
unidentified
Might have been the corn in common.
seamus coughlin
It's all jokes.
unidentified
No, there's criticism to be leveled at the boomer generation.
seamus coughlin
100% and millennials and zoomers.
unidentified
Can I add something to that?
You know a lot of the money that we spent that's in the deficit was spent to squeeze out 1% of life expectancy for a bunch of people, mostly boomers.
You know, so that's, you know, you spent a lot on our heads.
Take the criticism.
tim pool
It's going to be really weird.
So right now, boomers hold a disproportionate amount of wealth relative to previous generations at this time.
Millennials, I was looking at this chart, said historically millennials now that they're in their thirties should hold a quarter or a third of the wealth of the nation, but boomers still hold it.
When boomers die and that wealth either goes to the state or to their kids, it's going to be a, it's, it's going to be like a tsunami hitting.
all the sudden millennials are gonna have the homes the resources in the
unidentified
wealth that their parents were holding onto for a long time and which might which might encourage people to be closer
forrest cooper
to their families if it
twisted yeah I'm reading a book by a boomer and the boomer talked about how
they will one day be in charge of the economy and now they are
was written in 1990 is extremely condescending and my greatest criticism
against the boomer generation is you outright failed or refused to pass your
values or any values on to your children because you said things like I don't want to force to me to
believe anything right good now to me believes nothing
tim pool
And how many of these parents, I know a ton of people I grew up with whose parents were like, I got them the guitar, but I didn't force them to play it.
I got them the skateboard, but I didn't force them to use it.
And now I know a bunch of people who suck at anything, don't have worthless degrees, and there's a skateboard and a guitar sitting in the corner of the room they never touched.
Then I know some people who are pro skateboarders and they were like, my dad made me go to the skate park because he was like, if I buy you a skateboard, you're going to skate.
And they're like, okay.
Then two weeks later said, I don't want to skate anymore.
Too bad.
We're going to the skate park.
I bought it for you.
You're going to do it.
Now they're pros.
Now they're rich, successful, and they love skate.
They love it.
And they're like, oh, it's the greatest thing that my parents ever did for me.
seamus coughlin
Well, and there's an irony here, right?
Millennials, if they end up having wealth, a lot of it's going to be inherited from their parents.
And this is the generation that's pushing for inheritance taxes because they've been so thoroughly propagandized by the state into believing that they exclusively benefit the rich and that they have an entitlement to other people's money and that that will solve the...
issue of income inequality.
It actually makes it worse according to a number of analyses.
tim pool
Let's read some more.
Pablo Gonzales says, I hear you suggest Kyle and Crystal, they advocate protesting outside of judges' houses.
They go as far as saying the right is trying to restrict speech over this.
I'm not sure you watch their content.
I don't watch all the stuff they do.
I see it periodically.
My point about Crystal and Kyle is that, yeah, I don't agree with their opinions, but I think they actually try to approach arguments in good faith.
Like, you can actually talk to them.
Kyle's not a mean guy either.
I've seen him criticize me and it was like, well done, but I disagree.
That's fine.
I think they're wrong.
I just think there's a lot of people that just engage in sophistry.
I think Kyle and Crystal actually try to give you real arguments and they try to understand their positions.
I just don't agree with a lot of them.
That's fair.
We need more of that.
Jimmy Dore is great too.
I certainly don't agree with Jimmy Dore on a lot of things, but I think Jimmy's fantastic.
He's a good dude.
unidentified
I like Jimmy Dore too.
tim pool
Yeah.
It's like, my thing is, you know, we disagree on so much, you know, especially, you know, like Ian's here and Luke or all of us, we all have different opinions.
Seamus and I disagree on things, but if we're coming at it from like, what are the facts and what are the arguments and why do we feel the way we do, then we're trying, you know?
seamus coughlin
I actually agree with everyone here on everything.
I've never disagreed with you guys before.
luke rudkowski
Even me.
seamus coughlin
Especially you.
luke rudkowski
Wow.
tim pool
All right, Beastly Devil says Matt Walsh once critiqued Vosch that reacted to his Johnny the Walrus book.
He made the argument that Vosch is trying, and as we know already, trying to meet the minimum word count on an essay project to make them sound smart.
This is literally what the left does to try and sound smart.
They think that if they talk like this and use verbose A verbose lexicon in their explanations of things.
It will make them sound much more articulate and intelligent, and their argument will be more cogent and acceptable.
Instead of just being like, I think this because of this.
unidentified
And also, the double edge to that is they say, oh, what, you can't read my explanation?
It's too many words for you?
Well, you're uneducated.
You are dumb.
That's why you don't understand it.
You don't want to understand it.
Why?
Too many words for you?
Maggot?
You know?
seamus coughlin
Look, you know what they say, wordiness is the soul of wit.
lydia smith
That's right.
unidentified
But that's that it's part of that it's like wow you you don't understand this giant treatise Well, obviously you're uneducated.
Nobody should listen to you, right?
seamus coughlin
They mistake education for intelligence Well, also they mistake the idea of they they mistake the purpose of communicating with trying to make themselves sound smart Rather than trying to get an actual idea across so it doesn't matter If you're really trying to communicate something, then what you should do is try to condense it into something that's more consumable.
That's part of why I've dedicated my life and my business towards making short cartoons.
forrest cooper
Some things cannot be reduced into a small format.
seamus coughlin
And that's true!
forrest cooper
I agree with you.
There's a reason for a dissertation.
There's a reason for a long paper.
It makes sense.
seamus coughlin
However...
forrest cooper
You have the same people who are trying to present that they are being intelligent presenting while also simultaneously saying that intelligent presenting is also racist because, insert minority here, can't do it.
Then why do you talk that way?
unidentified
This is all sophistry.
seamus coughlin
I will say, I agree with you that there are some explanations that require a longer form, 100%, but it's also the case that if you can communicate that same idea with less words, you are more intelligent.
They never even consider that.
tim pool
Let's read some more.
We got fearme16 who says, once heard Ann Coulter say, there are a lot of bad Republicans, but there are no good Democrats.
lydia smith
Interesting.
tim pool
I agree with her.
I mean, what do you guys think of Dennis Kucinich?
I know he's not, like, around in politics anymore, is he?
unidentified
He's an old guy, I think.
tim pool
Yeah.
Because he tried to abolish the Federal Reserve, didn't he?
unidentified
Yeah, he's a Democrat, I think.
Right.
tim pool
And I'm kind of like, oh, I heard that.
forrest cooper
And I was like, oh, really?
unidentified
Yeah, there's not...
I don't think there's a lot less good Democrats.
Right, and that's another thing.
It's a totally different generation.
The Democrat then, the Democrat now, is just two majorly different things.
luke rudkowski
Well, the Democrats attacked him and kicked him out of office.
unidentified
Did that with Lieberman?
A second big switch?
tim pool
Bernie Sanders just caved.
unidentified
After my third house, I was like, okay Hillary, whatever you say.
You know, on the Bernie thing, you know, everyone points at the houses, right?
But have you guys actually looked at, like, the political infrastructure of Bernie?
It's like his wife runs the consultancy, right?
And so, basically, think about that structure right there.
He goes and asks for donations, the campaign gets donations, then he pays his wife, To run the campaign.
lydia smith
Literally nepotism.
unidentified
That's donation money finding its way directly into the Sanders pockets, right?
And it's blatant.
It's been happening for years in Vermont, and nobody says anything.
forrest cooper
I mean, at least they're married.
It's not like AOC paid a non-boyfriend money to do something.
Was that her?
unidentified
a lot a lot a lot of our leader and that their boyfriend girlfriend now
forrest cooper
yeah i mean i'm i i'm from minnesota should have known those ill hon but like
okay at least bernie sanders has it on the paperwork is being just
unidentified
well also i i i the administrative state approves of your corruption
tim pool
yes i mean shot the republicans that made a bunch of money at the stock
unidentified
market to like yeah i i i don't think i'm sure i didn't realize one
seamus coughlin
The reason I bring up and love discussing Bernie's houses is because so much of his constituency thinks that being a landlord makes you the scum of the earth, and I find something hilarious about the idea that it's okay to own three houses when you only need to live in one and keep the other two vacant in case you might like to go there, but it's horrible and evil to own three houses, live in one, and allow other people to live in the other two houses.
forrest cooper
Because no communist thinks they're gonna end up a dirt farmer.
Oh, because you know what?
When you're a communist, you're going to be the poet.
Well, yeah.
It's the same thing with anarchist utopians.
No one thinks that they're going to be the one beaten to death with a cudgel.
unidentified
They think they're going to be running the Politburo.
tim pool
We got Dan Pitt.
He says, werewolf makes sense now.
That's right.
A woman who transforms into a wolf monster would be a whiff-wolf, if you were going by actual Germanic language.
A whiff-wolf.
A werewolf.
forrest cooper
A whiffle-bat.
tim pool
NitroCatOfficial says, Matriarchy has been tried before.
The episode of Survivor where it was the men versus women.
The men had a shelter within the day and the women got caught in a storm.
Yo, I, I, I... Some say.
All these videos are just fabricated for ratings.
One of them I watched, it was like two islands.
The men on one, the women on the other.
The women got lost, and then, like, they were like, let's split up, we'll go look for water, you stay here.
And the women who went to look for water walked around in circles, like, five times, and are crying and breaking down, because they didn't understand how they had gone in circles, because they were, like, setting markers, but they kept going in circles.
And then they did this overview of the map, and they're, like, showing the route they kept taking, and they were freaking out.
The men had a shelter, they had fire, they had food.
Some say they did that to make an entertaining video that people would share and talk about, and it was intentionally, like, guys who had skills and women who didn't.
But nonetheless, those episodes, they do exist.
seamus coughlin
Well, have you considered that those women were raised in a patriarchal society that didn't teach them survival skills and that's why they failed?
It's an indictment of sexism.
unidentified
They were taught how to do it.
The instruction was simple.
Go find a man.
forrest cooper
Go find you a man.
tim pool
The second, protects the rest, says the FBI under Trump is the exact same FBI under Biden.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, I want to make that point.
Yeah, that is correct.
Trump's FBI, I don't think it's Trump's FBI or Biden's FBI.
I think it's the FBI and then they don't own Trump, but they do own Biden.
unidentified
And so the institutions are of themselves.
Right?
The FBI is the FBI.
It'll sit there and it will be, if the administration, the executive branch that's supposed to run it tries to, you know, come after them, it's going to resist.
If you try to, you know, so the institution, once it gets large enough, will just seek to preserve itself.
Right?
And that's why, again, it's all just a shuffle.
In some other universe, Mueller would have been Trump's AG, and Bill Barr would have been doing the special counsel investigation.
forrest cooper
I think our commenter makes a good point, is that you can talk about the corruption in the justice system all day long, but you have to provide a solution, an alternative.
Part of that solution would be, if you're the Department of Justice, seek justice.
There's a part of it.
You have to seek justice.
unidentified
My solution is personnel is policy.
Get the person who believes what you want, what you need in there, and they will do the rest.
tim pool
Let's read some more.
We got Lavati says, just blew my family's mind today with the whole eight and nine month elective abortions that are happening in some states.
I have never seen a more disgusted face.
Godspeed with what y'all do and keep it up.
This is what happens.
Democrats tried to legalize abortion at any time for the health of the mother.
Abortion is defined by the CDC as a termination of a pregnancy that does not result in a live birth.
That would mean if a woman at eight and a half months was at risk, they could kill the baby instead of just delivering a viable baby, because it says a viable baby, but all of it's laid out.
My question is, well, why?
Why not just say if the baby cannot survive, like all attempts must be made to save the baby, And the immediate response is, it never happens anyway, why are you so obsessed with this?
And I'm like, I didn't say it was happening.
I said, why do you want to legalize it?
seamus coughlin
That's all I'm saying.
We've talked about this on the show a number of times, but they'll say health of the mother, and then their late-term abortion doctors will say, yeah, the most cited reason is depression.
So people think like, oh, we have to deliver this baby earlier, she's going to die.
It's like, no, she's depressed.
tim pool
No, no, no, they're saying, in this instance, they're literally saying if a woman's health is impacted for any reason, they can be like, guess we gotta kill the baby.
But it's like, what if we delivered it instead?
Nope, nope, it has to die.
unidentified
Do you guys know the statistics on the abortions and stuff?
It's not great.
I think over 90% of abortions are like just...
forrest cooper
99?
Is it 99% of abortion?
unidentified
I think it's 93.
It's over 90.
So that means rape, incest, and medical go in, what, 10% or less?
Less than that.
forrest cooper
And that is the disingenuous nature of the conversation.
Because you say, we have the issue of abortion.
And they say, well, what about rape?
Really?
Really?
tim pool
No, I just say yes, okay.
So you want to ban the other 93%?
And they'll go, no.
Then why did you bring it up?
forrest cooper
Then don't lie about it.
tim pool
Just stop lying.
I say this to people when they're like, what about rape and incest?
I'm like, oh, we'll make sure there's exceptions for that.
And then they're like, okay.
And I'm like, so would you ban the other 93% then?
And they go, no.
Then why did you bring it up?
Why did you ask me then?
forrest cooper
It's dishonest.
Stop being dishonest.
tim pool
Or just, sure, but I wouldn't say that.
I'd just be like, oh, okay, why'd you ask?
forrest cooper
Why did you ask?
Oh, because you're dishonest.
I got you.
unidentified
Yeah, but if you want to actually, like... I don't think the word is dishonest, I think it's subversive.
tim pool
Yeah, but I think a lot of people are just repeating talking points.
So you just approach it like, oh, okay, yeah, you're right, we should definitely allow that then.
So what about the elective birth control abortion?
Should we get rid of that?
unidentified
No?
tim pool
Okay, then why'd you bring up rape at all?
Like, when we had that dude Matt on, he said something like, this never happens to him, late-term abortions don't happen.
And then I said, do you think a woman should be allowed to have an elective abortion at nine months?
And he goes, it's her choice.
And I'm like, okay, you see, there's the issue.
forrest cooper
You're saying it never happens.
tim pool
It never happens.
Legalize it.
And I think it should be allowed.
I'm like, okay, that's my issue.
You want it to happen.
Whatever, man.
unidentified
You would let it happen, right?
That's really what it is.
tim pool
They want it to happen.
They think it should happen.
So there you go.
forrest cooper
And if you don't affirm that this should happen, then we're going to burn down your pregnancy resource centers.
Wait, is it really yours?
Is it really yours?
No, it's just because it represents something that isn't mine.
So I'll burn it down.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, exactly.
Well, this is what they say.
Pro-lifers don't care about these women and they don't care about children after they're born.
And then when pro-lifers literally have charities and organizations set up to provide these women with resources when they're brave enough to bring life into the world, pro-choicers torch them.
tim pool
That's what they're doing.
forrest cooper
Imagine that.
tim pool
Let's read some more here.
DarthDerivative says, Tim, gaslighting and lying is what got us here.
It will not get us out.
You won't read this.
Uh-oh, the last part of that sentence is wrong, so I guess the rest of it must be wrong too, right?
forrest cooper
You cannot defeat gaslighting and gaslighting.
unidentified
Tim, you're good at the superchat stuff, man.
Oh yeah.
tim pool
Alright, we'll just grab a couple more here.
unidentified
A couple more superchats.
tim pool
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
says, Tim, did you write Will of the People?
I did.
I wrote it.
I sang it.
I wrote the guitar for it.
lydia smith
Not the Muse version.
tim pool
Not the Muse version.
No, that one's not that good.
unidentified
I don't like it.
tim pool
I'm a big fan of Muse, though, but I just didn't like that.
Also, I feel like they kind of ripped off a lot of my art and style and, you know, whatever.
But yes, I have a song, it's called Will of the People, and you can search for it and listen to it.
I sang it, I wrote the guitar for it.
The lead guitar was a studio musician, and Nishra Allman produced the song and arranged it and worked with some outside talent to put it all together.
I wrote the story, I wrote the concept for the video, and all of that from creation and inception was mine, except for all the nitty-gritty pieces that were putting everything together.
So yeah, I'm very excited for that.
We also have a bunch of music coming out.
Maybe by August, I think we'll have a full album.
We have 10 songs demo-tracked already.
One is complete.
We have a couple that are near completion.
We're working with Pete Parada, formerly of The Offspring on drums, so I'm super excited for that.
And we have a big plan for a big release with big marketing.
It should be like a very traditional album release.
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unidentified
Shout out to the New York Young Republican Club.
Follow us, nyyrc.com.
And yeah, pay attention to the good things coming up, man.
We have a hot midterm, and I'm going to be in there from New York 23 trying to win back the house for Republicans.
You know, just pay attention.
forrest cooper
Cool, yeah, my name is Forrest Cooper.
I am the philosopher on violence.
If you want to follow me on Instagram, my personal page is F-O-X-R-O-E underscore official, for Foxrow Official.
The business page, for Redacted, is at Redacted LLC.
And then my personal Instagram, or not Instagram, Twitter page, which I occasionally use, is at Foxrow.
And that's where you can find me right now.
luke rudkowski
First of all, shouts out to Lydia's better half, Andy.
He builds a lot of the cool stuff out here.
Today is his birthday.
He's a really cool, awesome human being, so shouts out to Andy.
tim pool
Happy birthday, Andy!
luke rudkowski
He's pretty incredible.
And I'm leaving!
It wasn't because of video games.
I just got my own thing to do, and I'm gonna be doing a lot of different stuff, projects, shenanigans.
You can keep up with me on LukeUncensored.com.
And if you guys will have me back, I'll come back after I'm done doing my Rodowski stuff.
tim pool
He's doing some weird hippie acupuncture retreat or something.
We're gonna like rub crystals on his ass.
luke rudkowski
On my buttocks?
This is a family-friendly show, Timothy Pohl!
seamus coughlin
Whatever he's doing, it's not important, but the important thing is he won't be here.
Oh my gosh.
lydia smith
Have charitable, Seamus.
luke rudkowski
Off to the potato mill.
seamus coughlin
Luke, I will miss you, believe it or not.
luke rudkowski
You better.
seamus coughlin
I will.
Look, I mean, there's gotta be someone to take the heat on this show.
But I'm Seamus Coghlan.
I make cartoons.
We released a cartoon yesterday about the attempted assassination of Kavanaugh and how the left aren't responding to that and inciting that.
So you guys might want to check that out.
Also, I have a website now because we're trying to get independent from big tech.
So go to freedomtunes.com.
You can become a member for just five bucks a month.
You'll be supporting the content that we're making.
You will also get an extra cartoon each week as well as behind-the-scenes content.
So we've already got like, I think, seven cartoons up there now, and then a bunch of behind-the-scenes stuff.
unidentified
Did you do the voices on all the Freedom Tunes?
seamus coughlin
Most of them.
Tim plays Fauci, and then there's a female voice actress who does most of the female voices, but I do most of them.
tim pool
I also did that one Antifa guy.
seamus coughlin
And that one Antifa guy, that's right.
tim pool
I did a cop once as well.
seamus coughlin
Yes, yes.
unidentified
Can I say, Freedom Tunes radicalized me.
seamus coughlin
See the good work we're doing?
Go to freedomtunes.com and become a member to help support us.
lydia smith
Yes, wonderful.
Thank you guys for tuning in on this most wonderful of national holidays.
That is my husband's birthday.
He's 27 again and just as youthful as he actually was when he was 27.
You guys may follow him at Andy Leiderman on Twitter and Instagram and you can follow me at sarahpetchlitz on twitter and minds.com as well as sarahpetchlitz.me.
tim pool
We will see all of you over at... Well, actually, no, it's Friday.
seamus coughlin
That's right, it's Friday.
tim pool
We will see all of you over at CastCastle.
Go to youtube.com slash CastCastle.
In the last three videos, I think we did, maybe it's three, Jamie Kilstein, the comedian who's been on the show several times, he's coming on to help us produce the comedy portions of the CastCastle vlog.
When we first launched it, the idea was to do a vlog and then mix in, you know, comedic bits and funny things.
We had one in the beginning where, like, Luke blew up the castle in his way.
It was very simple.
And then since then we've been trying to get into the habit of making it kind of like a semi-fictionalized version of the work we do here to make it funny.
Jamie has absolutely done that.
We have a whole bunch of plans, all these crazy jokes written out.
It's gonna be a whole lot of fun.
So check out youtube.com slash castcastle.
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