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March 28, 2022 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Timcast IRL - Biden Doubles Down On Russia Regime Change w/Alex Bruesewitz
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you Joe Biden was
tim pool
questioned by Fox News's do see about three statements he had made which
were particularly egregious and he claimed they never happened
He implied there would be U.S.
troops going into Ukraine, that the U.S.
would use chemical weapons, and that Joe Biden wanted regime change in Russia, and Biden's like, that never happened, what are you talking about?
This is an absolutely crazy news cycle, because not only did he deny it, He then doubles down on calling for regime change in Russia.
And then when Ducey says, like, what do you mean you'll respond in kind to chemical weapons?
He goes, I'm not telling you!
And he's like, the people want to know.
And he's like, well, I'm not telling them.
Just wow.
Tremendous response from a president.
So, you know, we'll be talking about that.
Plus, Florida has signed, Ron DeSantis has signed into law the don't say straight bill.
That's right.
The bill in Florida which prevents teachers from talking to preschoolers to third graders about heterosexual marriage.
It really does.
Of course, the media and the left have been framing it as a don't-say-gay bill, but we'll get into all that stuff.
And then, ladies and gentlemen, we have an extra juicy bit of drama tonight!
You see, on November 2nd, 2020, I released the first song in a series called Will of the People, where you see a ground shot of the base of a statue moving up with cables thrown over it under an orange sky, and then people pull the rope down while saying, this is the will of the people.
And something interesting happened.
Muse, on my birthday, March 9th, published a video for their album Will of the People and song Will of the People, That starts with a ground shot, and then you see a foot come in, and then it shows a low view up to a statue with cables hanging from it under an orange sky, while people are chanting Will of the People.
And I've gotten a lot of questions about it, and a lot of people are asking me, what does it mean?
What did my tweet mean?
What's going to be happening?
Wow, this is really crazy.
This is a crazy story, and I feel like I'm in a very difficult position here, so I'll just give you just a brief, a quick mention.
Most of you who have been following the show know that we've invested a significant sum of money, six figures, into our Will of the People universe.
I've mentioned repeatedly we have a sequel.
We actually have several because this is part of a concept universe following these ideas that we talk about in the show in song form.
We've talked about graphic novels and I shouldn't have to reveal our plans for these characters.
We've already storyboarded out two sequels to the song as part of the series.
We've already had plans for... We've already discussed film.
And so we're very heavily investing in cultural development.
So we'll get into all of that, but suffice it to say, This is a serious problem for us.
But we'll talk about what it means, and I'll show you guys what it is, because some people have questions about legal issues.
And I'll just add one last thing to let people understand.
We're not some fly-by-night company.
We're not just like some... We're in a six-figure studio.
This is, you know, expensive construction in a multi... in a million-dollar property.
Like, we are a big company.
You got it right.
of our reach and everything. We have a ton of lawyers that handle all of this
stuff for us and it's shocking that we're in this position but here we are.
So that being said we'll get into all the news. Joining us to talk about all
this is Alex Brusewitz. Did I get it right? You got it right. All right man I was
unidentified
worried about it. I was like I'm gonna say it wrong. How do you pronounce your last name?
It's Puh-ow-el.
Puowel.
tim pool
That's wonderful.
alex bruesewitz
Is it French?
tim pool
Yes!
alex bruesewitz
Or Ukrainian?
tim pool
It's actually Dutch.
alex bruesewitz
Oh, it's Dutch.
unidentified
Okay.
alex bruesewitz
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
But thanks for coming, man.
Do you want to introduce yourself?
alex bruesewitz
I'm Alex Brusiewicz.
I'm a victim of the unconstitutional January 6th Commission witch hunt.
And, you know, I'm a real victim.
Real life victim.
Now, I'm a political consultant.
I own a company called X-Strategies.
I know you've had Greg Price on a couple of times, and he loves you guys.
And I've been a fan of yours for a couple years.
So I'm really grateful to be here, and thank you for the opportunity.
tim pool
Absolutely, man.
We got a lot of fun stuff to talk about.
We also have our good friend Seamus.
seamus coughlin
Ian Crossland.
Well, I am Seamus, but I'm filling in for Ian Crossland, so I'm going to do my best to be an Ian substitute this evening.
However, I will let you all know if you're interested in seeing more of my content.
I run a YouTube channel called Freedom Tunes, where we upload animated cartoons every Thursday, sometimes on Tuesdays as well.
Go check it out.
lydia smith
Very cool.
You guys know it is my favorite night of the week.
That is Monday night because I enjoy my job very much.
Very happy to be here with Alex.
Stoked to get into it tonight.
Let's go.
tim pool
I know everybody's also like, please don't talk about Chris Rock getting slapped, but it was staged!
unidentified
No!
lydia smith
Dang it!
tim pool
Maybe.
seamus coughlin
Maybe.
tim pool
Maybe we'll talk about it.
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And it looks like Seamus is there playing video games.
seamus coughlin
Who's that guy?
That's the actor who played Ian Crosland on TimCast when he was absent.
unidentified
That's right.
tim pool
And I'll also point out in this, I think there's also the video game that Seamus and I are working on.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
TimCast and Seamus.
Very excited about it.
So you might get some... I don't know what we're allowed to release about the video game we're working on.
unidentified
Yeah, we're trying to keep as much of it under wraps as we can, but I'm pretty pumped for it.
tim pool
It's cool.
seamus coughlin
We've been working on it for a while.
tim pool
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The next book from Tales from the Inverted World is coming soon.
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Let's read this first story from the Daily Mail!
Biden stands by his comment that Putin cannot remain in power, but insists he was expressing moral outrage, not policy change.
Claims three Russia gaffes didn't happen, despite White House having to walk them back.
I got to show you the video, everybody.
You need to watch this because I'm sitting downstairs, I get a message from Cassandra Fairbanks,
McDonald, and she's like, you need to watch this video. No laughing and LOL or
anything, it was like, watch this.
And then I watch it, and we're just playing it on the counter. And then all of a sudden,
we get to this point where everyone in the room busts out laughing. And I'm just like,
we are screwed. Come on, man. Let me play this clip for you guys, and then we'll...
Other leaders. Oh, wait, let me fix the audio for you.
seamus coughlin
You know, it's funny because before the show started, I was browsing Twitter. I didn't get a
chance to do that today. It's very necessary. And I saw your tweet with that Biden video,
unidentified
and I was cracking up. I don't want to interrupt your conversation.
tim pool
I was like, we are screwed. All right, let's see if we got it. Hopefully it's loud enough.
peter doocy
Are you worried that other leaders in the world are going to start to doubt that America is back
if some of these big things that you say on the world stage keep getting walked back?
What's getting walked back?
It sounded like you told U.S.
troops they were going to Ukraine.
It sounded like you said it was possible the U.S.
would use a chemical weapon.
And it sounded like you were calling for regime change in Russia.
joe biden
And we know... None of the three occurred.
peter doocy
None of the three occurred?
joe biden
None of the three.
peter doocy
Mr. President?
joe biden
You interpret the language that way.
I was talking to the troops.
We're talking about helping train the troops in that are the Ukrainian troops that are in Poland.
That's what the context.
I sat there with those guys for a couple hours.
That's what we talked about.
peter doocy
So when you said you're going to see when you're there, you were not intending to see when you're there?
joe biden
I was referring to with, meeting with and talking with the Ukrainian troops that
were in Poland.
peter doocy
And when you said a chemical weapon use by Russia would trigger a response in kind?
joe biden
It will trigger a significant response.
peter doocy
What does that mean?
joe biden
I'm not going to tell you.
You've got to be silly.
peter doocy
The world wants to know.
joe biden
The world wants to know a lot of things.
I'm not telling them what the response will be.
Then Russia knows the response.
tim pool
That was amazing.
seamus coughlin
Also, I want to say, I just love how it starts with this reporter talking to him like he's five years old.
It's like the exact cadence and tone of voice he used to speak to a child with.
alex bruesewitz
God bless Peter Doocy.
He's been great this entire regime so far.
He's going to be really important next couple of years too.
tim pool
Yeah, it's crazy how the guy from Fox News is the only one questioning the president.
Look, when you have a President Trump, you get a journalist who's like, Trump, I gotta push back, I want some questions answered.
I'll be like, you know, we should have journalists pushing back, no matter what it is.
If Trump could come out and give a good answer and a journalist is like, I'm gonna push back and I want you to answer these concerns, I'm fine with that.
But what do we get under Trump?
Every single journalist was just always spitting and yelling and complaining.
And very, very unserious lies, manipulations, chasing false stories.
Now we get Biden, arguably one of the worst presidents we've ever had, who said, when you're there, you're going to see people in front of a damn tank refusing to move.
It's like, what does that mean?
Like troops are going to be there.
He said, if Russia uses chemical weapons, we'll respond in kind.
Uh, Is the U.S.
going to use chemical weapons in Ukraine?
alex bruesewitz
Well, remember, Tim, the adults are back in charge.
That's what we heard for four years.
We need to get the adults back in charge, and this is the best that they have to offer.
seamus coughlin
I think we went too far to the upper limits with the whole adult thing.
We could have been a little younger.
alex bruesewitz
One of my favorite Don Jr.
posts was he says you're supposed to eat your vegetables, not elect them.
And so that's what we have right here.
I mean, he's completely lost it.
And, you know, to your point, the media was so, you know, vicious towards Trump and they would lie about him.
But now they cover for their lies and they'll actually run stories about how Joe Biden didn't actually say what he said.
This is what he actually meant.
And so it's a total double standard.
It's complete BS.
tim pool
We saw Lindsey Graham call for the assassination of Vladimir Putin.
I was like, yo.
alex bruesewitz
I call him Lady G. There was a report a couple years back about Lindsey Graham, Lady G, about how he had relationships with a bunch of men.
And the establishment would say, Alex, you can't call Lindsey Graham Lady G. It's going to be hard for us to recommend senators to work with you.
And that's okay.
So I doubled down on Lady G. And so, is he drunk when he goes on Hannity calling for the assassination?
It's the same thing here.
And so, who's running the messaging on this?
tim pool
So I bring him up because now Biden is saying, what did he say?
Quote, for God's sake, this man cannot remain in power.
And I'm just like, wow.
You want to talk about no peace, no chance at any kind of resolution here?
You know, I'm not a military expert by any means, okay?
can thank the president because, yo, Vladimir Putin is going to be like, OK, there is absolutely
no reason to communicate at all with the Americans.
We know their position.
alex bruesewitz
So that, you know, I'm not a military expert by any means.
OK, but I've been in a few fights in my life or have seen some fights happening.
And I think the number one goal should be to deescalate.
Right.
And the adults in charge currently have no interest in deescalating.
Why?
Because the people who fund their campaigns and fund their livelihoods, something called the Military Industrial Complex, they say, no de-escalation.
You guys are pushing for war.
We're sending in the MIGs.
And like I said, nobody knows what the hell a MIG is, but everybody's sending in tweets in all caps.
Send in the MIGs.
And so I don't want to send in the MIGs.
I want to send in the peace.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, it's hilarious.
You know, the adults who are in charge completely fail to understand that there is a concrete world that exists outside of their rhetoric, and politics doesn't just exist on Twitter or on television, and the things they say to foreign leaders or about leaders are actually going to have consequences beyond their constituents liking them more, or throwing red meat to their fan base, or the right people disliking them.
I mean, calling for the assassination of a foreign leader online while they are invading another country and tensions are as high between us and them as they've ever been or for the president of the United States to say that the leader of a nuclear power needs to be removed from his position is so unbelievably out of line and insane and irresponsible
But of course, they're the grown-ups, right?
And we constantly heard about how Trump had mean tweets, and Trump wasn't responsible with the things that he said.
But you know what?
Things were somewhat together at that point, and these people are literally not at all different, except Trump's policies were actually somewhat effective.
tim pool
I like how Trump was, you know, they accused him of working with dictators.
And I'm just like, if it brought peace, it was I can't remember who it was.
I don't want to quote the wrong person.
But he was like, you got to understand the reason Putin didn't invade Ukraine under Trump was because Trump was doing his bidding.
alex bruesewitz
What the hell does that even mean?
seamus coughlin
It's so stupid.
tim pool
I'm like, pulling our troops out of Afghanistan, I guess.
Pulling our troops out of Syria, okay, I guess.
So what you're saying is Donald Trump was de-escalating war and crushing ISIS, so Putin was like, alright, I'mma chill.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, should he not have done that?
I mean, I guess if it makes Putin happy, we shouldn't do it, but this is why it was a perfect and beautiful lie.
tim pool
I got it.
seamus coughlin
What is it?
tim pool
If we really want to piss off Putin, then we just need to stand back while ISIS comes back.
That'll show that that Russian.
alex bruesewitz
That's true.
So I've been doing a lot to support Ukraine.
I've banned Moscow meals in my home.
I'm not doing white Russians anymore.
In fact, I'm just going to dump out every bottle of vodka I own.
And if you're not doing stuff to help Ukraine each day, you have to check yourself before you wreck yourself, because Ukraine is like my total everything now.
seamus coughlin
Can I ask you something?
What's your policy on cats that were bred in Russia competing in cat shows?
I want to make sure you really have a sufficiently tough response to their aggressiveness.
alex bruesewitz
Yeah, I don't think that should be allowed.
We need to take serious measures.
We should ban Russian cats from America.
tim pool
I went to a yogurt restaurant.
Like a frozen yogurt place.
And they had a chalkboard when you walked in.
And someone drew the Ukrainian flag on it.
And I'm like, the people working here are like 16 years old.
And I don't think any of them know where Ukraine is.
seamus coughlin
No, they couldn't point it out if there was the letter U and a picture of a crane next to it on a map.
tim pool
That's what I think.
alex bruesewitz
I love all the buildings lit up in, like, blue and yellow.
And I wish people paid this much attention to Ukraine in October of 2020 when it was reported that Hunter Biden was getting paid big money by Burisma.
But now everybody's Ukraine expert, Ukraine stan, Adam Kinzinger's, you know, fawning over Zelensky shirtless every day on Twitter.
tim pool
If you came to me and you were like, Joe Biden actually has a gigantic mind control device and the reason he always seems out of it and tired is because he's like Professor X and he's just exhausted himself and he's mind controlling people into believing fake news, I'd be like, well, you know, There's been so many fake stories and people keep believing it.
That almost sounds like a plausible explanation.
Biden's got a mind control device.
Cause I don't, I don't, I don't understand how you can have millions of people in this country, like one day, all of their, all their Twitter accounts have blue hats.
Then all their Twitter accounts have syringes.
Then all their Twitter accounts have Ukraine flags.
alex bruesewitz
Yeah.
tim pool
And like, no matter how many fake stories come out, they just like, I'm gonna go along with whatever, whatever they say.
Or like, was it Bill Burr?
When he was talking to Joe and he was like, I just turn on the news once every two weeks and do what they tell me to do.
I'm like, man.
Oh boy.
Someone's gotta have mind control powers, I swear.
alex bruesewitz
Thinking's hard.
It's hard to think.
And people have whatever the hell they got going on.
They have their fancy football leagues that they gotta pay attention to, or they have their Netflix series they really tune into.
Doing the real critical thinking about the important issues, it's hard.
They just wanna listen to the experts, right?
And the experts are bought and paid for, unfortunately, by people who Yeah, I absolutely see it happening.
tim pool
How many days do you think it'll be until some fact checker publishes an article saying
Tim Pool claims Joe Biden has mind control powers?
seamus coughlin
One day?
Two days?
tim pool
Two days.
I can absolutely see it happening.
They'll be like, Tim Pool insanely claims Joe Biden has mind control powers because
they don't know what sarcasm or a joke is.
seamus coughlin
Or if they're really meta, they'll release an article saying Tim Pool falsely claims
we're going to release an article about him making false claims about Joe Biden's mind
alex bruesewitz
You're onto something there, Seamus.
seamus coughlin
Thank you, thank you.
One thing I wanted to mention here is when we look at the scenario, when we look at the fact that Trump was called a puppet for Putin every single time he did something that Russia might at the very least appreciate, or which wasn't explicitly aggressive towards them, we were told he was a puppet.
This is exactly why Russiagate was the perfect lie for the deep state and the industrial military complex to fabricate about a sitting president of the United States, because they've been trying to push for war with Russia for years now, and all you have to say is, well, the current president is being controlled, and anytime he doesn't want to go to war with them, anytime he doesn't want to do anything that would lead to war with them, it's because he's a puppet.
It's because he's weak.
tim pool
Do you guys see this tweet?
We have this from Gordon Lubold.
All right, this guy is a White House national security and Pentagon reporter for the Wall Street Journal.
He says, Leon Panetta says on CNN that Biden's gaffe in Europe about regime change came about because Biden is Irish, and his instinct to internalize human suffering may have overwhelmed him to the point where he was not careful about what he says.
Biden needs more discipline, Panetta says.
seamus coughlin
What's he talking about?
unidentified
As you say, there's some sort of internalized Irish thing that exists within ethnically Irish people causes them to respond a certain way.
tim pool
Alex, are you Irish?
alex bruesewitz
I'm not Irish.
tim pool
Oh, okay.
alex bruesewitz
Well, I could self-identify though.
tim pool
That's true.
unidentified
All right.
alex bruesewitz
Well, I did on the 17th.
seamus coughlin
I'm assuming this is satirical though.
tim pool
I'm not Ian, no.
seamus coughlin
I'm gonna be Ian today.
tim pool
Seamus, tell me about this deep Irish internalization of suffering.
seamus coughlin
Wait, I want to be clear.
This is a joke, right?
unidentified
No!
seamus coughlin
No, come on!
Are you serious?
Oh my gosh, I would have used this to get out of so much trouble in school.
lydia smith
I know, right?
seamus coughlin
I'd have been like, you know what, I'll turn my homework in when Ireland is a free nation, not being occupied by the British.
tim pool
Is that what they're claiming?
seamus coughlin
Yeah, I have no clue.
What is this?
unidentified
I'm sorry.
seamus coughlin
This has to be a joke.
You're messing with me.
tim pool
I don't know.
Is it a joke?
Is it for real?
seamus coughlin
I don't know.
tim pool
This is a Wall Street Journal reporter tweeting it out.
I agree with you.
I'd assume it wasn't real.
seamus coughlin
Even if it's not a joke, it's a joke.
You know what I mean?
It's ridiculous.
alex bruesewitz
It's a great statement.
The spin's amazing.
seamus coughlin
Are we an oppressed group now who gets to use that as an excuse for failure?
alex bruesewitz
The Irish have always been oppressed, in my opinion.
seamus coughlin
It's true.
Well, no, I mean, Irish people weren't, like, considered white until being white meant you had to apologize for being white.
tim pool
Absolutely.
seamus coughlin
So, frankly, you know, talk about reparations.
Buying high and selling low.
tim pool
I'm just thinking about how we're going to title this thumbnail, this clip, and it's going to be like, Seamus Outrage Responds Outrage to Racism Against Christians.
CNN claims Joe Biden is oppressed because he's Irish.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Or something like that.
It's going to be good.
seamus coughlin
I wrote a book called Anglo Fragility.
And it's about how if you don't think you have Anglo privilege, it's because you've internalized it more deeply than other people.
And when I make mistakes and you point that out, it's actually because you are spitting upon the graves of my ancestors for holding me accountable.
tim pool
Irish!
I didn't see that one coming.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, I can't believe that.
tim pool
It would be really great if they used it as an excuse for anything Biden does.
seamus coughlin
He's Irish!
Come on!
Well, this is interesting because you remember during the State of the Union when I said he sounds drunk?
Oh, he's Irish!
alex bruesewitz
You brought up a good point about the Russiagate scenario as well, and it's important.
Lindsey Graham was on CNN shortly after the 2016 election, and he did an interview talking about how Russia also hacked his emails.
And that's why he got 1% of the primary vote.
Now he got 1% of the primary vote because his failed, dangerous policies were horrible and widely rejected.
And also because he's Lindsey Graham.
Nobody likes this guy.
So he's had a personal bone to pick with Putin for a long time.
He blames his own failures on Putin.
He should take some self accountability and seek help.
seamus coughlin
I want to make two points here.
Firstly, everyone argues, well, my emails were hacked by a nefarious group who you shouldn't trust.
OK, but those were your emails.
We're talking about things you actually said.
You can't like Putin did not put those words in your mouth.
But also we went from the president as a Russian puppet to the president is an Irish puppet.
His internalized suffering as an Irishman.
tim pool
It's resulted... Remember when someone commented, is this related?
seamus coughlin
Is that not also like really, really offensive?
That's extremely racist towards... Well, but he is Irish.
I know, but that's extremely like, oh, well, of course he's gonna make mistakes, he's Irish, you know what I mean?
Of course he said something ridiculous and needlessly aggressive that he didn't need.
Of course he picked a fight that he didn't need to get in.
tim pool
He's Irish!
Whenever Biden slurs or stumbles, can we just say, he's Irish?
seamus coughlin
He's Irish.
Watch out, itchy, he's Irish.
tim pool
You know what the implication of that would be?
But look, look, look.
Someone replied, is this related somehow to Cuomo's I'm Irish defense?
And that was Cuomo's I'm Italian defense.
When he posted all those videos of him grabbing people and kissing them, and he was like, see, look, it's normal.
I do it all the time.
lydia smith
That's what the top comment is, an Italian giving advice on self-discipline?
Question mark, question mark.
I just want to say, this is not a joke.
Fox just released an article that says, former Obama defense secretary, President Biden made Putin gaffe because he's, quote, Irish.
seamus coughlin
Please, hold on.
Can I read this tweet again?
I'm sorry, I'm not off this yet.
lydia smith
We'll get back to it, don't worry.
Oh, there we go.
tim pool
So we got the actual article.
seamus coughlin
Gosh, can you expect from him?
lydia smith
I know, he's just Irish.
tim pool
Yeah, there you go.
seamus coughlin
Irish epithet strikes again!
unidentified
Oh my God.
It's amazing.
tim pool
New epigenetic trauma is a mainstream smart person concept.
Data point just dropped.
lydia smith
Oh my, true that.
tim pool
All right.
Joe Biden is in Europe making gaffe after gaffe, implying that US troops would be in Ukraine.
The White House thing goes, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
then saying if Putin uses chemical weapons we respond in kind no no no no no no no no
then he says we need regime change you know what i'll take it and then they're like
CNN then comes out this time at the White House oh it's because he's Irish and he's internalizing
seamus coughlin
the suffering of the Ukrainian people he's like his sweet little Irish feelings were too
unidentified
overwhelming to him he's not in control of himself is this like a point no no for real
tim pool
i got a serious question though is is are they making some kind of point about Ukraine being
like Northern Ireland like Like the Donbass region is Northern Ireland and Russia is like the UK.
You know what I mean?
seamus coughlin
I think they're just calling Irish people stupid.
unidentified
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
I'm pretty sure that's what's happening here.
They're like, look, Joe Biden, Joe Biden doesn't have dementia.
He's Irish.
That's what's happening right now.
Do you understand?
tim pool
Shame is he's trying so hard to be a victim.
unidentified
I know.
seamus coughlin
Well, look, this guy is giving me victim points.
He's saying that Irish people are more likely to internalize other people's suffering.
lydia smith
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
I mean, it makes it sound like very nice and empathetic.
unidentified
I get that, but it's a little bit offensive.
seamus coughlin
Oh, by the way, I'm trying to make myself a victim.
Tim, every single time you say something insulting about the Irish people, you pull the Irish card out and say, oh, I'm part Irish too.
So really, Tim, you're being insulted as well.
What am I?
tim pool
I think I'm like a third Irish or something.
alex bruesewitz
I'm German, so, you know.
seamus coughlin
No empathy there.
alex bruesewitz
Yeah, no empathy for me.
No empathy for me.
tim pool
I am German, Irish, and Korean, and there's like a little bit of a bunch of stuff.
My last name is Dutch, I guess.
Quite the blend.
Yeah, absolutely.
I'm wondering, do the Germans and the Irish team up for something?
Because German-Irish tends to be a common thing.
unidentified
I'm very German.
alex bruesewitz
I mean, we both drink.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, no German.
German-Irish is actually a pretty common mix.
tim pool
Yeah, pretty common mix.
German people and Irish people were like, yeah.
seamus coughlin
I think those were just like the poor immigrants at the turn of the century.
tim pool
Yeah, that sounds right.
unidentified
In the 1900s, late 1800s, it was the Irish and the Germans and they hung out.
seamus coughlin
But no, I do think there's something to this theory.
Do you guys remember Biden's whole pot of gold gaffe?
Of course, we're gonna be able to pay off the national debt!
We've got three pots of gold at the other end of the rainbow!
His economic plan to follow rainbows until we could get the gold at the end of them, do you guys not recall?
tim pool
Is that the Build Back Better plan?
Yes, exactly!
In all seriousness though, there was that one moment where he was chasing after all those little kids because he sniffs them.
seamus coughlin
They said they're after me, Lucky Charms!
tim pool
I actually wasn't going for that joke.
I was going for the Biden sniffs little kid's joke.
alex bruesewitz
It's not a joke.
It's a real problem that should not be tolerated.
seamus coughlin
I'll leave it alone in a second because I know we've really harped on this, but I just got to say, is it that hard to admit the man's experiencing cognitive decline?
He makes a gaffe because he always makes gaffes and they're like, you know what?
The guy's Irish.
unidentified
Or is it the... Leon Panetta's like...
tim pool
Biden gaffes and they're just looking in the hat of random defenses of Biden and there's like one
unidentified
laugh that says Irish on it. He's like, uh, Biden gaffed because he's Irish. Well, I think it's
alex bruesewitz
important to remember that Obama's former Secretary of Defense, Robert Gates said, quote,
Biden's been wrong in every foreign policy decision in his entire career. And so...
And so there's no excuses for it.
The guy just sucks at his job.
He's been in office for 50 years and he's been wrong on everything.
And so nobody has confidence in his ability to get us through this.
tim pool
I gotta push back on that, man.
That is unfair.
Biden has not been wrong on every foreign policy decision.
He's made incredibly successful decisions as it pertains to foreign policy for his family.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
You know, the contract his brother got.
seamus coughlin
I was gonna say, like, arming the Irish rebels.
alex bruesewitz
Frank Biden.
tim pool
Yeah, the jobs that his kid got.
I think you're looking in the wrong place.
alex bruesewitz
You're right.
tim pool
So we can say that Joe Biden has failed the American people in terms of foreign policy, but the Joe Biden personal family foreign policy is quite successful.
seamus coughlin
I mean, to be honest, though, I could not believe it when he armed the IRA.
unidentified
I thought that was a push too far.
seamus coughlin
It was very shocking.
tim pool
It's funny, but that sounds like something that could be true, because he's been in office for so long.
unidentified
Like, actually, in the late 80s, early 90s, Biden signed this bill stating, come on, man, we're going to give guns to the IRA, man.
Get rid of the Brits.
I've got a brand new shiny helmet and a pair of kinky boots, man.
alex bruesewitz
But I don't remember the last presidential election where foreign policy wasn't really at the forefront.
Yeah.
And because of President Trump's success for four years, we had peace all across the board, peace in the Middle East, peace in Korea.
Russia was at bay.
China was obviously doing what they do to unleash the virus onto the world.
But the foreign policy aspect wasn't really a conversation during the 2020 debate when it was at the forefront of the 2016 one about who's going to destroy ISIS.
And everybody thought that Trump was going to be the one that actually did it, and he succeeded.
But this is, foreign policy was a negligent issue in the 2020 debate, and if you could have played that clip of Robert Gates saying that he's been wrong on every foreign policy decision and there's actually foreign policy conflicts, I think that would have had a drastic impact.
But we're seeing the genius at work here, and what happened in Afghanistan, what's happened in Ukraine, China's going to move on Taiwan, it's going to be nasty, and we got this blabbering fool in the office, and Hunter Biden's secure in the bag.
tim pool
They suspended the gas tax in Maryland.
So a bunch of people, I've talked to people out here in Maryland, and they're like, they're like, no, gas prices went down, things got better.
And I was like, yeah, they suspended the gas tax, like gas prices aren't going down.
The government just backed off because they're scared about what's happening.
And they went, oh, like, yeah, because in West Virginia, it's still over $4.
Yep.
unidentified
And in DC.
alex bruesewitz
But don't worry, Biden brought in the TikTokers to make TikToks calling it the Putin gas hike or gas price hike.
So it's I'm Putin, he says.
And they all come in like good little sheep and then they spit it out to their audiences.
And it's really sad how quick this misinformation can spread.
seamus coughlin
You can't blame Putin.
I mean, he's Russian, right?
tim pool
All right.
My friends, you all saw the State of the Union, I assume, because we were here and we were drinking and Lauren Southern was drunk.
and she yelled and called Biden based because he said we got to secure the border. That's true.
So the reason I bring that up in the context of this story about Biden's new billionaires tax
is that Joe Biden during the State of the Union says he's a capitalist, secure our borders,
build, make America, you know, build American. Now, Always.
that's long past, he comes out with this far left 20% minimum tax on households worth more than $100
million. This is a Trojan horse, mark my words. Regular people are going to be like, why do I
care? I don't make $100 million. Two things, they will lower the threshold like they did with the
income tax initially. The initial income tax was like 3% only for the ultra wealthy, right?
And then of course they just move it down, move it down, move it down. But this is also
Joe Biden desperately pandering to the far left after calling himself a capitalist.
He's like, I wonder if they're doing a media strategy of, okay, State of the Union was this big TV thing that old
people watch.
Say what the old people want to hear.
Now, internet medium put out a statement that's what the left wants to hear, the progressives.
So he's going to tax the rich.
They say 20% minimum tax on unrealized gains.
So Elon Musk, this is the craziest thing.
It's basically like if you buy, check this out, used cars have gone up in value like crazy because of the chip shortage.
Let's say this tax was a general tax on everybody, unrealized gains tax.
You buy a used car for two grand, but then the chip shortage hits.
And now the value of used cars in all government metrics is up 100%.
Your $2,000 car is now $4,000.
The government goes, you got $2,000 unrealized gain right there.
And you say, well, I don't have any money.
I just have my used car.
And they say, then you got to sell the car.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
To pay the tax.
You say, but if I sell the car, then I won't be able to work.
And they're like, then you're going to be in trouble for not paying your taxes.
So you sell the car.
Guess what?
You could only get a couple of grand for the car.
And they say, now you owe us taxes on the income you got from that two grand.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
tim pool
And you're like, so I got to pay the tax on the unrealized gain, but then I sold the car and I got to pay taxes on the
income.
Right now it's a hundred million dollars, but rest assured you give them the ability to tax unrealized gains.
Two things are going to happen.
One, they'll lower the threshold.
And the second is inflation will push you up further and further to that threshold.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, no, it's true.
This is one of the most insane economic policies that he could try to implement right now.
First of all, we're not in a place where you can really talk about introducing these, like, radical new measures to socialize the economy.
First of all, we're not really in a healthy place to look at these sort of more social justice-y, far-left pandering options for policy and try to implement them is ridiculous.
But also, what this effectively does, Tim, you know, you're using the example of a used car.
It would force people who are successfully running businesses to the point of making them profitable to sell off their shares.
So basically somebody who is moving a company in the direction of making it more profitable is forced to give up control of their company so they can pay the tax on unrealized gains.
And what an unrealized gain is, by the way, is money you literally have not made.
It's completely theoretical.
The government is taxing something you don't have.
tim pool
Yeah.
And they could theoretically just be like, Hey Seamus, that shirt?
A million bucks.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, I mean, exactly.
How do you assess the value of something like that?
alex bruesewitz
I mean, Hunter Biden's art assessor is going to assess the value of all this stuff.
tim pool
That's a big trick too.
People don't understand that you're going to all of a sudden see billionaires being like, that Rembrandt painting?
Unfortunately, nobody wants to buy it anymore because of the tax.
So it's only worth a thousand dollars.
I actually lost that money.
Can you write off the unrealized losses?
alex bruesewitz
Yeah, well I'll give this regime some credit for recognizing the moment that we're in.
I think now more than ever there's an appetite on both sides of the political aisle to kind of stick it to some of these billionaires and on the right they're sick of the woke billionaires who fund all these you know, these non-profits, the Arabellums that help fortify
elections against us. And so there's an appetite to take it to the billionaire class that our
people, the Trump base, I mean, we're working class folks. And so the billionaires don't have the
same luster and we don't have the same party anymore. And so there is an appetite there, I think,
to get some on the more populist right, to jump on board with something on this nature.
But, Tim, you bring up a good point where they're not going to stop there.
If we give the government an inch, they're going to take it down to, you know, the half a millionaires.
Eventually, anybody that makes under 100 grand will be impacted by it.
tim pool
Or in 50 years, when inflation is really, really bad.
And let's say a dollar is now a dime.
So you're spending 10 bucks on a candy bar.
You're spending $100, you know, on a couple movie tickets or whatever.
They also, you know, lowering the threshold and inflation is going to get you closer and closer to that limit.
alex bruesewitz
Well, I think that the billionaires should wake the hell up, though, especially, you know, the ones that help fund these woke institutions and the woke organizations to, you know, eat their ESG scores higher, because they're losing the people that, you know, historically defended them.
They're losing, they're pissing off a lot of Republican voters who've always been against the increase of taxes.
They've been against the, you know, the punishing the wealthy.
But when you're using your wealth to fund organizations that hate our country, it kind of pisses off some people and they see stuff like that and they're like, eh, well right now it's only for the billionaires so maybe I'll support that.
seamus coughlin
But you know what?
I think a lot of the billionaires know that ultimately this tax is going to disproportionately affect wealthy people who aren't lucky enough to be in the exact bracket that billionaires are in and therefore will have a more difficult time avoiding the increased taxes on their net worth.
I'm sure they'll find all sorts of workarounds and loopholes so that they don't end up having to pay and it will actually make business more difficult for their competition.
This is probably good for them.
tim pool
Take a look at like the progressive tax brackets.
What's the highest bracket?
Is it 250 and up or is it like 500 and up?
seamus coughlin
I need to double check.
I think someone changed it.
alex bruesewitz
I can pull this up.
tim pool
It's like 250 and up.
alex bruesewitz
So imagine this.
It's like 37.5%.
tim pool
Imagine you're a middle class, you know, working class person and you hit it big somehow.
And now all of a sudden you're making $400,000 a year, which is a lot of money.
You're paying a very high tax rate on everything above 250, which is substantial.
It's you know, what is it like 40 was it 38 to 40 some percent?
alex bruesewitz
Yeah, like 38 38.
tim pool
If you're if you're worth if you're making 10 million dollars a year as like the CEO of a company and you're
paying that percentage, everything after 250 is effectively disposable income for you to invest any way you see fit.
If you're making $250,000 to $400,000, you're like, this is my chance to grow and become a wealthy American, but they're pulling you down.
So, the simplest way to explain it is, if you only need, in the United States right now, $150K a year to be considered middle-class median, and that's because of inflation.
It used to be $77,000, then $80,000, and who knows where it's at now.
Once you hit that threshold, you're getting a savings, you're building a little bit of wealth, but you're not on track for independent wealth, where you can just dump money into a bunch of funds and then make interest and things like that.
You make $10 million, Who cares?
Look, I got my $2.50 a year to fund my lifestyle, and then I've got an extra, you know, $9.75 million.
Oh, I gotta pay 38%?
I still got $5 million where I can spend that on anything I want and generate massive amounts of wealth.
The richer you get, the less that impacts you.
So, long story short of it is, these taxes Stop people from becoming wealthy now you tell that to the
left you explain it and they say good And I'm like no you don't understand it means the billionaires
will stay billionaires forever And they'll become oligarchs and then no one can rise up
and displace them and challenge their power. Yeah, exactly Exactly.
seamus coughlin
And so another thing that he's failing to take into account here, and of course he is because he's on the left, is a concept known as the Laffer Curve.
So I've talked about this on your show before.
And there are some less educated lefties who will say the Laffer Curve doesn't exist.
It does.
Every left-wing economist agrees it exists.
The only debate is whether the parabola peaks at a higher tax rate or a lower tax rate.
Can you explain the curve?
Yeah, sure.
So, if you tax at 0%, your revenue will be 0.
And if you tax at 100%, your revenue will also be 0, because no one's going to work for money that they can't keep.
So, that means that somewhere between 0% and 100% is the revenue-maximizing tax rate, at which point you can reach it, and then if you tax any further, you're actually going to generate less revenue.
And so interestingly, federal revenues for the United States as a whole have basically stayed around 20% regardless of what the tax rate has been, which suggests that's probably the largest share of GDP that they're able to pull.
And when I said 22%, I'm speaking as a share of GDP.
So that's probably the largest share of GDP they'll be able to pull out of the economy.
So all they're going to be doing with something like this, if it even is effective at getting these people to sell off their wealth, because again, who knows?
Many of them are going to be able to circumvent it.
But let's say it has its, you know, quote unquote, intended effect in that way.
It's probably not going to increase revenue.
I would argue that it wouldn't increase revenue because the Trump tax cuts actually led to an increase in revenue.
The left continually claims that it didn't.
And Biden talks about this, you know, quote unquote, fiscal mess that Trump left him.
But that's complete nonsense.
Federal revenues increased, but our spending growth outpaced the increase in federal revenues, so we ended up with more of a deficit after the Trump tax cuts than we had prior, but that was because of an increase in spending, not a deficit in the amount that we were bringing in.
alex bruesewitz
Why don't we just print more money, bro?
seamus coughlin
Yeah, no, let's just do that.
That's worked fantastically for us.
tim pool
They're just slapping Band-Aids on Band-Aids.
alex bruesewitz
Why don't we start another trillion dollar war?
Like, multi-trillion dollar war.
Let's go out and get a ground war with Russia like Adam Kinzinger and Lindsey Graham won, and get some more money.
tim pool
That seems like the direction things are going.
I think a majority, what is it, a majority of Americans fear the U.S.
will get involved in a ground war with Russia.
alex bruesewitz
It's terrifying, especially I couldn't think about the parents who, you know, have children who are active duty and they all watch what the hell happened in Afghanistan and thinking about the degenerates and the morons who are in charge right now are going to be in charge of the military, you know, the operation on the ground there.
There's not a whole lot of confidence in their ability to get the job done.
And so praying that we can deescalate and get peace.
But, you know, it's just a mess.
tim pool
Let's talk about peace here at home.
seamus coughlin
Well, can I mention one more thing?
So you discussed, you brought up Biden bingo, which we played during the State of the Union address.
And I want to mention that that headline starts with Biden whispers that it's not right, which was on the bingo card that we had for Biden's State of the Union bingo.
He likes to whisper.
alex bruesewitz
Daily Mail has some great headlines.
tim pool
Let's talk about peace here at home, though.
We have this story.
Ladies and gentlemen, Florida's DeSantis has signed the Parental Rights and Education Bill.
Hits back at Hollywood critics.
Democrats misleadingly attacked Florida legislation as a don't-say-gay bill.
I like that Fox News subhead accurately points out that they've been lying the whole time about what this bill does.
Now, my understanding is the initial inception of it was more so targeting, you know, don't teach about gender identity or whatever.
After several amendments, they came to, okay, how about we just say, pre-K, you know, preschool to third grade, we don't want you teaching identity and orientation stuff to children, to these four to nine-year-olds.
After that, it's fine, just keep it age appropriate.
And for those four-year-olds, As long as you talk to them in a semi-private setting, totally okay.
Did you know that?
In Florida, this bill that was passed by Republicans will still allow a teacher to go up to a four-year-old in a semi-private setting.
Meaning, if they're in a classroom and there's a bunch of kids running around, and they're playing, a teacher can get up and walk over to a group of kids and say, do you want to learn about being trans?
alex bruesewitz
Oh my god.
tim pool
The bill does not ban that.
And so that's what they've been claiming, and it's just not true.
alex bruesewitz
Well, maybe we'll make some calls into the Florida legislature.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, I mean, again, we were talking about it being an anti-grooming bill, but it doesn't go nearly far enough to even be called that.
tim pool
Yeah, I call it the don't-say-straight bill.
Because the teachers also can't talk to these kids about straight, traditional marriage.
alex bruesewitz
So, I gotta be honest, the biggest pet peeve I have with this whole outrage is that when I was in high school, just like six years ago, if I said gay in any situation, I'd get detention.
They'd be like, Alex, you can't say gay.
And I tweet gay and now, you know, congressmen who hate me, they find screenshots of my tweets from when I was 14 and I say the word gay and they're like, he's a homophobe.
See, you used to get in trouble if you said the word gay, and now you see these idiots running through the halls of the school yelling gay and getting no pink slips, no detention.
That's the bone I got to pick with this bill primarily.
It's just, I grew up in the wrong times.
tim pool
Have you seen the meme where it's all the Disney, all the stories about Disney workers being arrested for child exploitation?
alex bruesewitz
Oh, absolutely.
There's a great sheriff in that region of Florida named Gary Judd.
Sheriff Judd.
He's phenomenal, and I think he busted like 17 Disney workers for pedophilia and trafficking kids.
It's sick.
And also, Disney's so outraged about banning sex ed from young kids like this.
I can guarantee when I have children, they will never watch Disney.
What kind of subliminal messaging and crap do they put in there?
unidentified
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
tim pool
You don't know the urban legends about Disney and their subliminal sex?
seamus coughlin
Oh, yeah.
Have you seen that clip from The Lion King?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
Which one is that one?
All good girls take off their clothes?
seamus coughlin
Oh, that was Aladdin.
Right, that was Aladdin.
In Lion King, when Simba falls down onto the flowers, the pollen flies up into the air and it spells the word sex.
And Disney claimed, no, no, no, no.
It said SFX.
We were excited about our new sound effects package.
I'm not kidding.
We were excited about our new sound effects package, so we wrote SFX.
unidentified
I'm sure we can get like a higher def image or whatever, but that's weird.
tim pool
There's also on the cover of the Little Mermaid, Oh yeah.
unidentified
On the cover is a large cylindrical, you know.
alex bruesewitz
It's mental.
It's a mental illness that they want to teach their kids, these kids about sex and they need to be held accountable for that.
And I think DeSantis should reconsider the bill and make it even tougher out of this backlash.
And also consider revoking some teaching license from these teachers who are so enraged by it.
And who wants to push their sexuality on these kids?
seamus coughlin
Yeah, perverts.
Yeah.
Sick perverts.
And the only people who won't stand up against this are either really sick perverts or they're complete cowards because the responsibility of adults is to protect children.
And as it happens, we live in a culture where people are so fundamentally either depraved or terrified and completely weak that they would rather allow children to be groomed than be called homophobic or some other word that everyone's too terrified to be labeled with to actually stand up and protect children against disgusting predators.
tim pool
This one might be just, you know, people wishful thinking.
I don't know about wishful thinking, but like looking for something and then telling everyone it's true.
So but let's see what Snopes has to say about this Disney thing, right?
Was a phallus purposefully added to the artwork of the Little Mermaid from 1998?
False.
And you can see it's just a golden tower of various, you know, sizes.
And then what do we have it here?
Where did it go?
There you go.
It's just, it's just a golden castle, palace, tower.
And everybody I know would always point this out and be like, Hey, look what they put on the cover.
You also have, um, what was it?
It was Aladdin, right?
Uh, when, when he was talking to, uh, Aladdin was talking to Jasmine.
Do you know this one?
seamus coughlin
It sounds like, yeah, I remember the clip.
And then also in The Rescuers, there was an example.
I can't remember if it was The Rescuers or The Rescuers Down Under, but as they fly past the series of buildings, there's actually a pornographic image that's placed inside one of the windows.
That's our camera for a fraction of a second, but it is there.
tim pool
Here's Snopes again.
Did Aladdin ask teenagers to take off their clothes?
False!
Aw, it's false.
alex bruesewitz
Oh, Snopes says it.
tim pool
Good teenagers take off your clothes.
In Aladdin, he whispers it.
So let's see, can we play it?
Are we gonna get you to- Down, kiddo.
unidentified
Good teenagers take off your clothes.
Good teenagers take off your clothes.
They didn't even play it.
They did, they thought you had to slow it down.
tim pool
Oh, he's saying, come on good kitty, take off and go.
unidentified
Sure.
alex bruesewitz
Okay.
tim pool
I don't know, man.
Like, maybe the Lion King one is like, they really wanted it to say SFX, but like, maybe.
alex bruesewitz
Why even have it say anything?
tim pool
Right, I know.
But so anyway, I bring up the Disney thing because it makes sense.
If these predators want to go to these Disney parks where there's kids everywhere, they're getting caught.
What's fascinating to me is maybe it's just coincidence that Florida says, hey, we don't want you talking to kids about this stuff, whether it's straight or gay or otherwise.
And then they're like, oh, oh, harumph!
I say, how dare do you tell us we can't say gay?
And then they go around running through the hallways.
And then it's like, also, there's a ton of predators down there at Disney.
You know, it's like, is that a coincidence?
alex bruesewitz
No.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, well, I mean, we talked about this a few shows ago, but Brian Peck was hired to be a consultant on a Disney film after, or on a Disney project after being found guilty of sexually abusing a child.
unidentified
Oh, man.
alex bruesewitz
Yeah, there's some really demented people out there and the outrage to this bill, and I'm glad that you brought that point up about how it doesn't go far enough.
And if I know anything about Ron DeSantis, he's going to want to make sure it's even tougher.
And he's not going to cower to this outrage.
He's going to, in fact, probably double down.
tim pool
I mean, the challenge is, Republicans are consistently reasonable.
The Democrats accuse them of being vicious authoritarians, and look what they do.
They're like, you can still teach kids about this stuff, just not as a classroom discussion.
And, you know, it's like, why are you giving leeway?
alex bruesewitz
There's no room to negotiate on this one.
These are children.
They shouldn't even be allowed to have a conversation, period.
Because this whole idea that you can change your gender, that should not be a conversation that we ever normalize nor accept.
And so the idea that some unqualified teacher who's a creep is going to have this conversation with their child, you can't let that happen.
And so we can't be reasonable.
No leeway on this.
tim pool
I keep hearing from parents who say, I can't speak up because I'd lose my job.
And I'm just kind of like, it's kind of a scary prospect that you're more concerned about your job than who your kid is around for eight hours every day.
seamus coughlin
Absolutely.
alex bruesewitz
There's another job out there and you don't have that many kids.
Maybe you do.
seamus coughlin
Imagine being willing to work for the kind of employer who would fire you because you are against sexual perverts trying to groom your child and you're vocal about that.
alex bruesewitz
Yeah.
tim pool
I think people need to hear you can succeed.
I think people need to hear that there are other jobs out there.
What's that website for anti-woke people?
lydia smith
Square something?
tim pool
Is that what it was?
I don't know.
alex bruesewitz
Square is a payment processing company.
tim pool
Square is a payment processing company.
But there's another website you go to and it's job listings for people who aren't woke.
alex bruesewitz
Well, God bless them.
You've got to find that out and you've got to promote the hell out of them.
I'm going to promote them.
I mean, people need to have the courage to, you know, stand up and say this stuff's enough.
tim pool
Well, people, yeah.
alex bruesewitz
People need a fire.
And look, I was in high school when gay marriage was legalized, you know, the Supreme Court ruling.
And I used to be like, what's even the fight about gay marriage?
You know, the conservatives on their talk radio would be like, well, if we normalize this, what else are we forced to normalize?
I'm like, oh, they're just big heads or whatever.
And then five years later, six years later, somebody who was a woman for four days who gets named Sports Illustrated Woman of the Year, Caitlyn Jenner.
And now we're in this next phase of the transition into normalizing stuff.
But the grooming crap.
tim pool
It's because there's no end, right?
They say the ends justify the means, but there is no end.
Meaning no matter where you are, you're always moving in one direction.
The issue is, for me, it's not gay marriage or a slippery slope fallacy.
I think two consenting adults is not the issue.
Obviously, there's a lot of traditional conservatives who have an issue with that.
I disagree.
The issue is children who can't consent.
That's always been the point.
Adults can consent because they can go and do their thing.
Children cannot.
I look at this like there needs to be a hard line.
I don't need to come out and be like, what's next?
You know, dogs and cats, you know, living together or whatever.
No, no, no.
I just be like, yeah, I don't care about consenting adults.
I care about this.
Hard line.
Stop.
Done.
Have a nice day.
alex bruesewitz
Yeah.
You know, who's phenomenal on this?
It's an open secret.
That Twitter account, I think, is open.
And I've gotten to know the folks behind that pretty well.
And they say we got to stop using the term child porn because porn's a consenting term and children can't consent.
It's child rape and torture material.
And so I try not to use the term child porn in my rhetoric because you can't, when you're a child, you can't consent.
And and children can never can can say we can never normalize that and so we have to you're right
You do have to stand up for the kids And the parents need to wake the hell up
And and and they need to be vocal. They need to be the ones that stop this
seamus coughlin
Yeah I want to make another point here
Piggybacking off of what you just said about all the arguments that were made by
Conservatives about gay marriage just a few years ago and where we are in relation to those
It's not just the case that basically every prediction made by the Christian right about what would happen in America
after gay rights were legalized and gay rights were normalized happened.
It's that like the most cartoonist Strawman version of their argument that a left-winger would have come up with ten years ago Has turned out to be what's actually like child drag shows.
Yes, exactly like child drag shows and also left-wingers like Pink News thinking that it is bad press for the Republican Party for them to go out there and go, did you know that the Republicans are going to try to ban child drag shows if they get elected?
And expecting people to look at that and go, oh wow, well I'd better not vote.
It's so weird.
What a great advertisement for the Republicans.
alex bruesewitz
It's just become bizarre.
And look, I still believe that I'm okay with gay marriage, personally.
Okay, whatever.
The stuff that's come after it, it's been messed up.
The trans rights has been such a weird issue.
And I think Dave Chappelle kind of lays it out nicely.
He's like, you guys need to disown these other people.
You need to disown the T pluses.
tim pool
This is the problem.
There are people like, I think Caitlyn Jenner has been great speaking up in defense of women's sports.
People like Blair White I think are fantastic.
There's a science researcher, a trans woman, who's talked about male advantages in sports.
I think, you know, look, people want to live their lives the way they want to live.
I'm very civil libertarian libertarian.
The issue is there are bad people who are trying to cover up what they're doing by hiding within the LGBT community.
And the challenge is, when you call out these bad people, they will use that and say, ah, so you're attacking trans people.
And it's like, no, no, no, no, that is a person preying on little girls, going into the girls' bathroom, taking pictures of them.
I got no issue with a trans person.
I got issue with the people exploiting it.
But you'll get banned.
You'll get kicked off the internet.
alex bruesewitz
But I'm glad that people like Blair and Caitlin are speaking out against this, you know, this crap and we need more, hopefully, well, more like them if there are them.
seamus coughlin
But Well, there's just one more thing I want to say here because I hear what you guys are saying.
I don't think we share a perspective here, particularly on gay marriage.
I think once a society says that two men can be married and tries to redefine marriage in that way, we've already lost the plot on what gender roles are and so we're open to any and everything happening with the relationship between men and women that doesn't really correspond to reality and what the sexes do and how they're designed to relate to one another.
tim pool
That's a long philosophical, moral, and ethical conversation.
I think it's a libertarian, like right now we're seeing like libertarian versus conservative.
But let's talk about, speaking of terrible families and abusers, we have a story about Hunter Biden.
Oh, you're ready for conspiracy theory, conspiracy theories, huh?
seamus coughlin
That aren't conspiracy theories anymore because we waited a couple months?
tim pool
Not even a couple months, it's been a week!
Hunter Biden helped secure funds for a U.S.
biolab contractor in Ukraine.
seamus coughlin
Oh my gosh!
tim pool
Russia's assertion that Biden's son Hunter was financing biological laboratories in Ukraine was based on truth.
Now hold on there a minute.
Bioweapons.
I don't know anything about.
And that's where the fact-checkers keep coming in.
Because instead of saying bio-labs, which we know exist now because Victoria Nuland basically said they do, you say that and the media comes out and says, they talked about bio-weapons labs.
Like, no, no, no, no.
These are bio-threat reduction labs.
The U.S.
is trying to stop the threat of biological weapons.
And I gotta be honest, it actually makes sense.
These programs, the funding, it all makes sense that they're doing research, not on weapons, But they're doing research on pathogens for the sake of being able to identify and protect against, considering they're right next to Russia.
I think that makes sense.
You can look at it from a more malicious or nefarious angle and say, no, I don't trust the U.S.
They're probably doing this.
We still don't have any evidence.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, I guess the question is, what kind of research do we know they're doing there?
Is gain-of-function research occurring?
But we don't know anything.
tim pool
Right, right, right.
unidentified
Check it out.
tim pool
They say, a trove of emails on Hunter Biden's infamous laptop found that he played a role in helping a California defense contractor analyze killer diseases and bioweapons in Ukraine.
Now that is a bold statement.
I'm going to push back a little bit and say, based on what I've read from this, I still don't see bioweapons, but far be it for me to call the New York Post, who is NewsGuard certified, wrong.
If they're saying the emails show Hunter Biden did this, and there are other outlets reporting the same thing, then I can only say, I don't know, look, fact checkers, take it up with the New York Post.
I'm just gonna say, you know what?
It must be a conspiracy.
It's all fake news.
Oh, the New York Post and their conspiracy theories, why would they go and report that?
The funny thing is the New York Post reported about Hunter Biden's laptop.
What did they say?
Russian disinformation.
Then we get the Biolab story.
What does the media say?
Russian disinformation.
You give it a week, what do you find?
seamus coughlin
It's all true.
As soon as we first heard that phrase, I joked, why would we ever believe these people when they call something Russian disinformation?
That's what they call everything that turns out to be true.
And also, why would we believe them when they said anything about a biological weapons lab being fake news?
alex bruesewitz
But it's both sides of the political aisle now.
It's not just the Democrats saying Russian disinformation.
For example, just last week, Congressman Dan Crenshaw was on Fox & Friends.
And Rachel Campos Duffy was kind of pushing him back saying, hey, some Republicans are concerned about, you know, just jumping on the Ukraine, you know, bandwagon and giving them everything they want because, you know, we're worried about pushing Russia closer to China, whatever.
Crenshaw goes, well, we're not funding, you know, when they say you're funding neo-Nazis, that's a lie.
It's totally fake news.
And then he goes and says the biolabs, when you say the biolabs, you're playing into Putin's hands.
You're pushing Russian disinformation.
And this is a Republican member of Congress.
And obviously this came out two days ago.
It's been vindicated.
And he has said nothing.
These people say nothing.
They lie.
And then when they get caught lying, they never apologize.
They never correct the record.
In fact, they double down.
And so it's dangerous that we're playing with a nuclear power like this.
And I don't know, are these people working to protect the Biden family?
Are they not wanting this information to actually become public?
But I don't know.
tim pool
The weirdest thing about this.
Is that we have confirmation from Victoria Nuland testifying before the Senate there are biological research facilities in Ukraine or bio labs for short.
As far as I know, Tulsi Gabbard, Tucker, we're not talking about weapons.
Now, truth be told, I haven't heard every single thing Tucker said, but Tulsi, she came out, she's like, I never said weapons.
There's biolabs there, and we're like, Russia might get them, it's a bad thing.
Like, what's going on there?
We should know.
alex bruesewitz
So they always move the word.
So after the 2020 election, it went from there's no voter fraud to there's no widespread voter fraud, right?
They always move the word.
They always try to change the narrative.
and they play a narrative game and they can because they have big tech on their side
and they have every mainstream media publication on their side and so they can move whatever
unidentified
hell word they want just to say that we're wrong. But I just, I'm just, what's confusing to me is
tim pool
that when you wait a week the story's proven true. So how are there people who still believe this?
Like, a story breaks, you gotta go, I'm gonna wait a week.
Then you go, oh, that's what happened, huh?
But there are people, you know, like Bill Burr, you know, when he was talking to Joe Rogan and said, I just turn the TV on once every two weeks and do what they tell me.
seamus coughlin
Once every two weeks, I turn it on.
I do whatever they say.
Hey, look at that.
tim pool
He's like, Joe, you're not a doctor.
You're only talking about masks.
seamus coughlin
Why did he become Fauci?
tim pool
It's like younger Fauci, you know?
seamus coughlin
What are you talking about over there?
tim pool
Talk about masks!
seamus coughlin
But no, I think that maybe I'm being a little optimistic here, but the number of people believing them are fewer and fewer with each passing day.
tim pool
Let's ramp it up.
We got the story from the Wall Street Journal.
Prosecutors advanced tax probe of Hunter Biden.
Grand jury heard witness in February about past drug use, spending habits of President's son.
Let's talk about Ukraine.
Hunter Biden was helping secure funding for this contractor.
It was reported by several outlets, notably the Daily Mail, that Hunter Biden and Joe Biden shared bank accounts.
This was back, I think, in September they reported this.
So here you have Joe Biden, whose son is on the board of an energy company where he doesn't have any experience or speak the language.
There's concerns about an investigation of the founder of that company, Michael Olszewski, and then there's some requests, you know, some emails go to Hunter about like, we got to deal with this.
Then Joe Biden flies out and says, if you don't fire the prosecutor, then you're not getting the billion dollar loan guarantee.
Sounds an awful lot like, a lot to me, like Joe Biden uses his son as a proxy for corrupt dealings in these countries.
And you know what?
I feel bad for Hunter.
We keep ragging on Hunter!
He's just a fall guy for Biden, right?
Joe Biden, it seems like he says to his son, you go work the private company, you get the salary, I can set these deals up because I'm the vice president, we'll share bank accounts, you pay my bills, and we'll have one guy for all of our taxes.
That's what they were doing.
It's been reported, I should say.
seamus coughlin
The shared bank accounts thing is a unbelievably gigantic red flag to the point where you might be able to call it smoking gun.
alex bruesewitz
Don't you still share your bank account with your dad?
tim pool
I don't know.
seamus coughlin
But if I was smoking Parmesan cheese, maybe I would have to.
tim pool
For people at this income level, I don't know how they shared a bank account.
Because the taxes must have been a nightmare.
How would you prove to the IRS that this purchase is like, oh, well, this one wasn't Joe, this was Hunter.
Because people need to understand, you can't just give people money.
You cannot do that.
You're a wealthy person making $83,000 a month, like Hunter Biden.
He cannot just hand 40 grand to his dad.
It's not legal.
You'd have to do tax filing for like gift taxes and stuff like that.
So that's a huge red flag.
I mean, I'm just confused by what their system was to be honest.
alex bruesewitz
And it's also important to know that it wasn't just Hunter and Beau Biden was also involved in the family corruption and nobody wants to talk about that because obviously, you know, Meat passed away and that's tragic and that's sad.
But Beau Biden ran a foundation and it just came out... Sorry.
But it just came out in a new report that he was in charge of the foundation.
They raised like $4.9 million, only $500,000 of that actually went to operating costs, and the rest of the $4.4, $4.5 million went to paying salaries of board members and lobbyists and consultants.
And so it's a whole family corruption.
It's a disgusting family.
Done nothing for our country, but used it to get rich.
unidentified
Amen.
tim pool
Do I really have to clarify that saying I feel bad for Hunter was a joke?
alex bruesewitz
No, I mean, look.
tim pool
Like, pointing out that his dad's corrupt and pushing all this?
Like, no, Hunter Biden's a bad guy.
lydia smith
To be fair, given the way his dad acts around young children, I am not convinced terrible things didn't happen to Hunter Biden.
So I do feel bad for him on that one.
alex bruesewitz
I mean, and he's also a crackhead.
You gotta keep that in mind.
Crackheads make bad decisions.
lydia smith
They sure do.
tim pool
It's true, though.
Look, look, look.
And with all due respect to people suffering from addiction who need help, they do make bad decisions, regardless of whether or not you want to have sympathy for them or not.
Hunter Biden, man.
You know, it's really fascinating that you see these people of great power, but they just can't control themselves.
Epstein?
seamus coughlin
Well, I mean, that's why they seek power.
People who can't control themselves try to control the entire world to compensate for it.
alex bruesewitz
Unfortunately, I think in politics, I talk about this a lot.
You know, I wasn't a perfect grade point average student in high school.
You know, I was a high school student.
seamus coughlin
You yelled gay in high school.
alex bruesewitz
I yelled gay.
I tweeted gay.
I was a rebellious high school student.
But I think a lot of the folks that end up getting into Washington, D.C.
were the folks that never were really popular in school or never You know, they were really great students.
They didn't really have a lot of fun.
And for the first time in their lives, they get into power.
They feel kind of cool.
And then they take off, you know, years and years of misery and anger, and then they do bad things with it.
And so, a lot of sick people up in Washington because of that, I believe.
unidentified
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
Well, Joe Biden was actually very popular in high school.
He was a very good football player.
It led to him getting the nickname Hands.
He called him Hands.
alex bruesewitz
He's got that nickname.
seamus coughlin
Do you remember?
There was this whole story.
I think it was like a children's thing, but they said that Joe Biden's nickname in high school was Hands because he was so good at football.
He was really good at catching them, something like that.
Wow.
tim pool
Well, I also heard that he was very popular with the kids in the pool and he's got hairy legs.
alex bruesewitz
I've heard that too.
tim pool
Can you believe that story when he was like, I'd be in the pool and the kids would grab my leg hair?
It's like, what are you talking about?
alex bruesewitz
81 million people voted for that.
tim pool
Dude, I always tell this story of the people I knew who were like, posting on social media like, I did my part voting for Joe Biden, did you?
And I'm like, oh man.
If only you watched Truden on a Shabbat of Pressure and Bata Calf Care, maybe, maybe.
But these people just, they just...
I don't know where they get their information from.
Are they watching CNN all day, I guess?
Because CNN doesn't have any ratings.
alex bruesewitz
No, they get it from Twitter, unfortunately.
Most of these people get it from Twitter.
tim pool
And podcasts.
alex bruesewitz
And Twitter recognizes that, and that's why they started to break the game.
And they promote, you know, it's stuff like, remember when COVID happened?
And then they had the trending tab and the news tab, and then they created a whole separate COVID-19 tab.
They're basically doing the same thing for Ukraine now.
They're just controlling the narrative, they're banking on people not doing their research, and Twitter has become the thought box for almost half the country, if not more now.
tim pool
It's the crazy stuff with Project Veritas, too.
Overall, like these investigations and the spying.
It's creepy stuff.
alex bruesewitz
It is.
tim pool
But let's do something special.
Ladies and gentlemen, we have a story to talk about that involves me, and I have to address it.
So, good sir, would you like to talk law with us?
Sure.
We have a lawyer who's coming in right now.
unidentified
We do.
lydia smith
That's correct.
tim pool
We got a lawyer.
jeffrey clark
You gonna stick me here?
tim pool
Yeah, have a seat and introduce yourself.
joe biden
Sure.
tim pool
We have a lawyer who... Whoa.
lydia smith
Interesting.
tim pool
That was weird.
lydia smith
Give me one second.
I'm going to look at that camera.
unidentified
Oh, no, no, no.
tim pool
That's fine.
Oh, wait.
This one's not working?
Yeah, something's wrong with it.
Oh, okay.
Maybe that camera, then.
Do you want to turn that one on, then?
unidentified
Oh, sure.
Yeah.
tim pool
Let's try a different camera.
Weird.
It's the powers that be.
You're going to have to come over here.
Sorry.
The powers that be are trying to stop us from talking about this very, very important issue.
And hopefully the camera's framed properly.
unidentified
Max headroom over there.
tim pool
I don't know what that was.
unidentified
Max headroom?
tim pool
Yeah, the camera wasn't working.
Hello, good sir.
Would you like to grab those headphones and introduce yourself?
Sure, so my name is... You want to grab the mic?
lydia smith
Yeah, right up to the mic.
unidentified
There we go.
jeffrey clark
Gotta go right up to the mic.
tim pool
Perfect.
Can you turn the volume up?
lydia smith
Yep, yep, we'll get some sound.
There we go, there we go.
Now we're good to go.
tim pool
Alright.
jeffrey clark
Alright.
So, my name is Jeff Clark and I'm the former double assistant attorney general in the Trump administration.
I had 1,400 lawyers under me at some point, but in the interest of full disclosure, I am Irish.
unidentified
Oh, no.
seamus coughlin
Well, I know you have a habit of internalizing people's sorrows and difficulties, so just try to be careful.
tim pool
So I'd like to talk to you guys about this story real quick, and then we have a lawyer give us his perspective.
seamus coughlin
Can I just make one point?
I want to let the audience know what I referenced earlier.
It's from a children's book called Joey, The Story of Joe Biden, where we learned that in high school he was given the nickname Hands, because of how good at football he was.
Anyway.
tim pool
All right, ladies and gentlemen, I'd like you to take a look at this.
It's timcast.bandcamp.com.
For those of you that are familiar, and those of you who aren't, I released a song November 2nd, 2020, called Will of the People.
It's actually part of a series.
It's a universe where we're actually writing a bunch of different songs that go into this artwork.
We've got a studio that's going to be producing the artwork.
We've got two sequel songs that are in works.
We just released the retro version, the beginning of this month.
And you can see here our album art.
Shows an orange sky with statues and cables on it, and they're being pulled down.
In the beginning of this song, we can see right here what you're seeing right now on the screen, and I'll describe it, is gears, and this is underground.
I'll lower the volume and just play the intro for you.
Now what you're seeing is the ground level and the base of a statue as the song begins to start to show you as it moves up.
You then see the cables at the waist of the statue, under an orange sky, and more shots of the statue with cables wrapped around it.
I then want to show you the end of the song, which is kind of a spoiler alert for those who haven't seen this production.
But at the end of the song, you then see the resolution, which is the ground-level brown-orange sky, cables wrapped around a statue, and people are pulling the statue down.
But when they do, the statues rotate.
So, keeping those points in mind, I'll just quickly say, I produced a song that is part of a bigger project we're working on.
We've pitched movies, we've talked about graphic novels.
We have a whole story arc for the characters in this because we've been trying to build culture.
This is our most successful cultural thing we've produced.
We have a story.
called Will of the People.
It is a song and series we're producing, and it begins with a ground shot, the base of a statue under an orange sky with cables pulling it down.
On March 9th, which is also my birthday, Muse posted this video, which I'm not going to play for copyright reasons, but I can scroll through.
Starts with a ground shot.
You see a foot Some point, come in, then you see the base of the statue pointed up with cables hanging down under an orange sky, and then it zooms out as a hooded figure, and people are firing more cables, and they then pull the statue down.
Now, my initial reaction to the fact that Muse launched an album called Will of the People, and a song called Will of the People, it was on this show that Ian said to me, he's like, hey, did you know Muse has a new album coming out called Will of the People?
And I went, oh, how about that?
Because, yeah, it's just a title, and Muse being very political, I thought, okay, you know, whatever.
Then, it was last night, we were driving back from, you know, just out of town a little bit, and I decided to actually take a look, because I hadn't actually looked at what Muse was producing, and sure enough, The way I would describe this is it's a live-action version, shot-for-shot, of the intro and parts of the ending of Will of the People.
Now, considering this is a promo, we don't know exactly what Muse is intending to do with the full release.
In this video, they're chanting over and over again, the Will of the People, the Will of the People.
And, of course, in my song, we say, this is the Will of the People, and they're pulling statues down.
So it's very similar.
Um, I've, uh, what people need to understand is I've not said anything in terms of legal stuff.
I tweeted out, we have questions, but considering we've heavily invested in, uh, we've got, again, I got two songs, you know, I can, I can actually do this.
I'm gonna do something I shouldn't do because I shouldn't have to reveal this stuff, but I have no problem
Showing just a little bit of a rough cut So this is uh one of the songs that I don't know how to
turn off There we go.
That we've been working on because, and we also have another song, it's on my Instagram.
So we're absolutely producing in this, and this is an issue for us, so I'm curious, Mr. Lawyer, what your thoughts are.
jeffrey clark
Well, you know, look, you know, I had done copyright work for General Motors at one point about the computer code in their cars and attempts by the state of California to grab that.
So, you know, look, in terms of the basic elements of copyright law, I mean, it looks to me like There's a lot of similarity here and, you know, it'd be interesting if you could uncover evidence of whether there was actual, you know, intent to copy.
But it looks like it's been, you know, some key elements have been copied and then the issue is, you know, is there originality in your work?
I think it's very original.
I think particularly, you know, compliments to you.
The turning statue?
tim pool
That was inspired by artwork from a Polish artist.
But we created our own version of it, we animated it, and we made it part of a bigger story.
So there's a lot to break down, especially.
Some people have said... I tweeted this out and I said, we have questions.
Big fan Matt Bellamy would love to chat, because I need questions answered, right?
A lot of people said, the idea of the statues being pulled down, you don't know.
And I said, right.
And they said, the idea of an orange sky, you don't know.
They said the phrase, will of the people, you don't know.
And I said, okay.
And then I said, the name, the ground shot followed by the bay shot of a statue under an orange sky with ropes pulling down the statues is pretty much a live action remake of what we made.
jeffrey clark
Right.
Well, look, I mean, it seems to me that that's the kind of defense argument you would face, right?
But it's an attempt to atomize your work.
If you look at it, if you take a step back and you look at how you've combined the elements, right?
It's combinatorial.
It looks like it's very similar.
And if I were you, I'd be pretty concerned about, you know, Muse, you know, coming out with something like that right after you've done it.
There may be evidence that they saw your work, and that would be very troubling if I were looking at that, Tim.
tim pool
Considering that Matt Bellamy has praised Alex Jones in the past, maybe I'm wrong, I just want to make sure I can put that out there, but there have been numerous statements, and I listened to an interview purportedly of the lead singer of Muse telling Alex Jones, Alex Jones inspired his music.
Their songs use a lot of themes of anti-establishment, anti-government, so a lot of people like them.
So I've seen them.
I don't know where they exactly stand on the political spectrum.
It stands to reason that they likely have access and have definitely seen the work we've
done and produced, considering the guests we have on the show overlap with a lot of
what they talk about.
So you know...
jeffrey clark
So I've seen them, you know, I know that they have a connection to the Alex Jones show.
I have some used songs on my iPhone right behind me.
So, you know, I know kind of where they draw their themes from and I can see why you're asking these questions.
tim pool
If I made a... wrote a book.
You can't copyright book titles, right?
jeffrey clark
Not quite sure of that.
Off the top of my head.
tim pool
Okay.
So, I'll put it this way.
There's a lot of people who responded to my post on Instagram and my Twitter when I said we have questions.
I didn't say anything beyond that.
I didn't threaten any... I didn't claim anything.
But a lot of people immediately said Muse didn't steal your work.
And like I didn't even say that.
A lot of people didn't realize though that they took the name as well as the color scheme, the symbols.
I mean we have the character in the hood raising his fist and then like it's a whole pulling the mask up.
So obviously there's a lot of things that exist in reality that you can't individually claim.
But, you know, my response is like, what if I wrote a book called Star Battles about space ninjas with plasma swords that fought the Imperials?
That's awesome.
Would I get sued?
Would I get sued for that if I made that book?
jeffrey clark
Yeah, I think you would because, you know, everyone would recognize it as connected to Star Wars and, you know, the combination of those elements, right, those creative elements is what makes it, you know, particular work.
And, you know, I think you'd have, you know, an interesting claim, you know, more than colorable it seems to me that You know, that's infringement of a set of combined ideas that you put together.
And if I didn't sort of spell out the atomization point, right?
If you just, you know, take a very narrow slice of some creative work, you can always find that there's some similarity to something else, right?
That can't be the analysis.
You have to take a sort of gestalt and take a step back from it and look at it in order to assess that kind of issue.
tim pool
So everybody, we're a decently large company in terms of revenue.
Not in terms of employees, but we're expanding.
We've got multiple properties.
We're building a new headquarters.
We have lawyers.
We have several, because this is what you have to do when you're working in entertainment and content.
And so the first thing we have to do as we're working these projects is just like, send it to the lawyer.
And the immediate response we got from one, friends who are lawyers, and our lawyers was, whoa!
Now here's the crazy part.
They published it on my birthday.
Now obviously a lot of people, the first reaction I get was like, everybody basically said to me, actually everybody, a small handful of lawyers, they're like, you know, if someone came out and said, this guy made a similar work to me and put it out on my birthday, they'd be like, well, you know, look, there's 365 days in the year, it's like they're eventually going to hit it.
But when it's the same name, then it's like, well, you know, I guess it's okay.
But then it's the same colors, the same theme, similar characters, same story, same name.
And on my birthday, yo, it kind of sounds like they did it on purpose.
jeffrey clark
Well, if you take a number of probabilistic events, right?
And you start looking at what's the probability of those all happening in conjunction with each other, right?
You multiply them together and the fraction gets smaller and smaller, right?
I mean, these kinds of things, you know, those sorts of arguments are launched in, you
know, all kinds of litigation, but, you know, especially in the criminal law, right? So maybe,
you know, there's a one in ten chance that a particular fiber, you know, was left at the scene of
a crime, right? But then if you accumulate it with a piece of evidence about, you know,
the ethnicity of the person.
And then you have some DNA evidence.
Like, DNA evidence doesn't necessarily rule out everybody, right?
But you multiply all those things together, you get to an astronomical number.
Then you start to scratch your head and say, you know, it looks like the odds that it's not this person are very low.
And so in this kind of analysis, it would be with all these coincidental elements of the work all occurring at once, seems like it's right for you to be asking questions.
tim pool
But it doesn't seem like a coincidence.
Well, let me say this.
To everybody who's listening live, comment, do you think this was coincidental or intentional?
And I want to ask you guys what you think.
Based on what you've seen and, you know.
alex bruesewitz
Well, I want to get ahead of everybody else in saying this.
I think that we've found out who the muse of muses is.
And it's Tim Poole.
You are their muse.
And so I think Jeff's assessment that there's something there is pretty accurate.
tim pool
Jeff, would you, when you look at this, just personally as a lawyer, does it look like intentional to you?
Like it was intentional?
jeffrey clark
You know, I think as a lawyer, part of my training is to be cautious, Tim.
And so, you know, that I wouldn't jump out on right now.
But I will say that, you know, like putting those two things side by side, they look pretty damn similar.
And there's some other... And they're named the same thing.
Yeah, they're named the same thing.
I mean, you know, where there's smoke, there may be fire.
And so it's right for you to be pushing this and raising your questions.
alex bruesewitz
And the fact that there's a year and a half distance between the two projects coming out.
When you first posted about it, I thought you just created this video the other day.
I didn't realize it was out for a year and a half.
They've had plenty of time to watch it, review it, and be like, oh.
tim pool
We've got 1.2 million views on our song.
It's on Spotify, it's on iTunes, it's on Bandcamp.
The first Tim Castellaro performance of this was June 19th, 2020.
So even well before we published the video of it, I was playing acoustic and singing live.
So, you know, I don't know.
What I have to consider is there's a difference between me as an individual business owner and what a corporation with multiple owners would be dealing with.
There's pros and there's cons to being a partner in a big corporation.
Let's say you own a company with like four other people, shareholders.
You've got 20%, someone's got seven, someone's got 30 or whatever.
If some problem happens and you want to stand your ground and say, I will not allow this person to come at me, you've got to consider your other partners.
You got to be like, who's our investors?
Somebody invested money in our company.
If I go to battle and I lose, I'm losing their money.
So you may be risk averse.
One of the benefits, however, is you get a problem like this and you can say we have an
obligation to each other and it's not about what we want to do it's about what we have to do. So
if I had investors in this company, which I don't, then I would have no choice but to
immediately launch fire everything.
And be like, I can't be responsible to investors.
But as an individual, as someone who's a fan of Muse, I think about, look, we've got a lot of money invested in this project we're working on.
It is too similar.
Already, when you search for Will of the People, it's displaced us.
But it's not just the name, it's literally the description of what my song is.
Their description is the same as my description, for the most part.
Their visual depiction and story is the same.
If you were going to explain to someone what my music video was, it's interchangeable between the two of them.
How am I supposed to carry forward with this massive investment to building culture when Muse, a year and a half after me, has published what I view as a shot-for-shot remake?
of at least so far the intro with the same name of my song.
And so the question is, it's, you know, I'm a fan of the band.
I can play most of their songs, you know, but this is a threat to my business
and to the mission that we have.
I don't have investors to worry about, but I'm wondering what people think I should do
in a situation like this.
Should we say, like, already Mew is making an announcement, because they're a large and famous international band.
Already it's generated so much press, that's an uphill battle for us.
Or do I say, we are one of the biggest podcasts in the world with 60 million listeners every month.
And we have to push back and make sure we assert our copyrights and the project we've invested all this money in.
We've been investing in this project longer than they have.
So what do we do?
jeffrey clark
Let's just look at this just for the sake of argument, right?
Like, arguendo.
Let's suppose that they deliberately copyrighted it, right?
They may have made some kind of calculation that, based on looking at some statistics online, that they can get away with this, right?
And so if I were an individual creator, I'm not a person gifted with a lot of musical or visual artistic skills.
I'm a guy who lives in the world of analysis and writing and presenting arguments to courts.
But, you know, I respect your talent a lot.
As I said, I'm a fan of Muse, too.
I have, you know, their songs on my iPhone.
But, you know, I would be insulted if I were someone who poured my creative energy into something and I saw
that it was, you know, blatantly being hijacked.
That's very, that would hurt me personally.
tim pool
Let me ask you a basic copyright question.
You know, a company like Warner, they're going to do a basic,
like, search for IP and copyright if they're launching a product, right?
jeffrey clark
Yeah, I mean, they're going to do any company that engages in anything, especially if it involves a significant investment, is going to do due diligence to see, you know, like, what's out there, who could come after us.
tim pool
We did, when we launched this.
So we are careful to make sure that when we're launching it, we do basic searches.
We look up song.
We don't find anything.
We're like, OK, we're good.
You know, because if we're going to if we're going to put tens of thousands of dollars into marketing even.
jeffrey clark
Right.
Yeah.
You don't want to take chances with it because it obviously is possible sometimes that there could be some coincidental overlap.
You don't want to be blindsided by that when you're down the road in the business venture that flows from the creative act.
You know, I would think that that big, you know, company behind Muse would do that kind of work.
And, you know, look, it also doesn't... So let's say there was, again, just for purposes of argument, imagine that there was some deliberate activity here.
It doesn't even look like they tried to make tweaks to things to be able to improve their position, right?
They didn't change the color scheme, you know, the titles the same.
Uh, you know, the birthday thing, I think, that would make me wonder whether I was being trolled, but I don't think that's the kind of thing that, you know, that could be pure coincidence.
tim pool
But just all of these things together?
But look, like, both videos start with a ground shot, theirs is slightly different, the shoe steps in, but then it shows, you know, the base of the statue, theirs is pointed upwards, mine's at the base.
The ropes are already hanging from their statue.
The ropes are already hanging from mine.
Orange sky.
People are pulling on it.
And then that's the cold open.
And the reveal at the end is they're pulling the statue down and it's rotating.
Right.
So look, we have no choice but to ask these questions and pursue it and have these conversations.
Especially, there's a lot people need to understand about, you know, why we would do a segment on the show about this.
And it's because there are certain legal questions about your ability to assert your position when you're a public figure.
Long story short is, if I don't exercise my rights to try and assert my copyright, it could be bad for me.
And considering we've got two songs nearing completion, and we're reaching out, we're storyboarding the next, we've already finished storyboarding the next series on this.
I have to be like, hey, this is an issue for us, and we're taking it very, very seriously, and we're gonna be, you know, we need to have a conversation with Warner and Muse.
So, Warner and Muse, you need to be talking to us.
We have to.
Otherwise, I don't, it has to be done.
So, with that being said, comment, let me know what you guys think.
I'm not saying I know exactly what the best path forward is for anybody, for me, or Muse, or otherwise.
I'm just saying, whether you agree or not, Most people say there are similarities.
There's confusion, there's an issue, and ours existed first, and we've already put more money into this, so questions need to be asked.
But we'll move on from this because I think we talked about as much as we can, and let's talk about the Academy Awards.
I think that Will Smith smacking Chris Rock was staged.
lydia smith
Really?
tim pool
What do you guys think?
unidentified
I don't know.
Yeah, I have no clue.
I almost don't care.
tim pool
You almost don't care?
alex bruesewitz
I don't care.
I don't care at all about, you know, that event that took place.
But I think it's important to talk about mental health.
And, you know, Mike Cernovich has been on top of this, talking about how, you know, it's probably taken a toll on Will, the fact that, you know, he allows his wife to sleep with other men.
And then, you know, he's totally okay with that.
But a joke he gets upset by?
And so Will's probably not all there right now from a mental health standpoint.
And so even I could see how it wouldn't be staged.
I could see how maybe he just had enough and he had a snap.
tim pool
Someone did Super Chedda saying, trust me, it wasn't staged.
And the way Chris Rock reacted, there's two things.
One suggests it was staged, one that it wasn't.
After he got hit, you could tell that he didn't know what to do.
And he was like, in a difficult position where he was like, and they said, we're giving away documentaries, Oscars, because he's clearly flustered, he got smacked in the face.
However, When Will Smith cranks up to hit him, Chris Rock doesn't put his hands up, which is a common reflex when you're about to be hit.
In fact, he does a, maybe it was an accident, but he makes a move that is common in fight choreography where he moves with the hand swing.
So when someone is fake slapping you, what you do is when the hand is coming in, you move with it.
So it's a glancing hit and less impact to your face.
alex bruesewitz
Well, their ratings have been in the tank for the last few years and nobody talks about them anymore and now everybody's talking about it today.
There's been great memes created already.
It's a great meme template.
Will Smith is a, you know, he's, I'm very grateful for his work in giving us good meme templates over the years.
His movies have been lackluster, to say the least, as of late.
But he gives us great meme templates, and there's a lot you can do with the slap motion.
tim pool
Well, Cuck was trending on Twitter all day.
unidentified
Really?
tim pool
Because Jada Pinkett Smith apparently is allowed to be with anybody she wants.
alex bruesewitz
Yeah, I gotta read Mike Cernovich's tweet.
It was the best tweet I saw on this whole situation.
Mike's been on fire for this.
He's always on fire.
He tweeted, being a cuck just went out of style.
Everyone saw a broken man trying to save face.
Don't be smacking cheeks when you letting other men clapping cheeks.
unidentified
Wow!
alex bruesewitz
Poetic by Cirno.
And it's almost 10,000 likes on that one.
Oh man.
tim pool
Twitter doesn't let me pull this stuff up anymore.
jeffrey clark
So look, you know, I didn't study Hollywood, fakery, and law school, so I don't pretend to be an expert.
But, you know, I would say as a layperson, I don't buy this.
I think it's about as real as, you know, wardrobe malfunctions in the past.
And look, you know, Hollywood is expert in staging things, right?
That's what they do for a living.
Yeah.
tim pool
And that's why the cops didn't come in?
jeffrey clark
Look, I'm a fan of Will Smith.
He's a fellow Philadelphian.
I think that the whole thing smells, and it's the kind of thing you launch when you're in an awards show that no one wants to watch anymore.
tim pool
It's possible it was real.
Like, you know, you can think about the LAPD said, you know, Chris Rock's not gonna file, so that's it.
My response is, the police don't need the victim to file.
If the police have evidence enough to convict, they can go on whether or not you as a victim want them to.
So it could just be it's all one big happy family and they're like, we don't want cops arresting Will Smith.
Just let it go.
And they all say, let it go.
And that's what happens when you're powerful, wealthy elites.
You can walk up to a man and smack him in the face for your wife's honor.
And you're not going to spend it.
You're not, you're going to go party afterwards and get drunk.
alex bruesewitz
Yeah.
I personally thought the clip of Amy Schumer and her fellow idiots singing gay on the stage was... I didn't watch it!
You gotta pull that one out.
You literally have Amy Schumer and two people I've never seen or heard of before in my entire life singing, you know, protesting Ron DeSantis' bill saying gay, gay, gay, gay.
seamus coughlin
It's just so weird that Hollywood would be protesting like the most milquetoast attempt at an anti-grooming bill.
Strange.
jeffrey clark
Yeah, but I mean Roman Polanski is You're you're just jealous again going back to your detention slip.
alex bruesewitz
Yeah, I'm Seriously pissed.
seamus coughlin
Where was Amy Schumer when I got sent to the prince?
alex bruesewitz
That's exactly right.
unidentified
That's exactly right Hollywood's dead, man.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
tim pool
They had 10 million total viewers on the Oscars last year.
seamus coughlin
Brutal.
tim pool
And that was down like 60% from the year before.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, we did a cartoon about that if you guys want to check out.
It's called The Wokest Oscars on Freedom Tunes.
I'm not sure if it was staged.
I said I almost don't care.
I guess maybe some small part of me does a little bit just because I very much dislike Hollywood and they do something ridiculous and I want to say, uh, darn Hollywood, but Whether it was faked or not, it's clear that this has had the effect of people ridiculing a specific person at the Oscars rather than the entire ceremony as a whole.
Because for the past couple years it's been, how unbelievably stupid is this ridiculous patting of oneself on the back ceremony that occurs where they give awards to their friends for doing things that they sit there and pretend is important while the rest of us don't really care.
tim pool
Seamus, I would like to award you our first annual Castie.
seamus coughlin
So I want to say that we have always been ahead of the curve on TimCast in telling ordinary Americans that they're wrong and need to be more like us.
Thank you for this award.
tim pool
Yo, legit, I think I'm gonna buy a bunch of those little alpacas.
seamus coughlin
Give him out his awards?
tim pool
Yeah, I think I should go pick some up.
alex bruesewitz
Seamus didn't say he stands with Ukraine in his speech, so... Oh my gosh, cancel.
tim pool
Give it back.
alex bruesewitz
Yeah, we're gonna cancel Seamus.
tim pool
He gave it back to mine again.
seamus coughlin
Because I think it is the default stance to stand for Ukraine.
I'm sorry that you don't agree.
tim pool
If we did, like, an award... Turn it around on him.
jeffrey clark
Doesn't need to be said.
seamus coughlin
Exactly.
It goes without saying.
tim pool
If we did like an award ceremony called the truthies or something and we use little alpacas, do you think James O'Keefe would mind?
lydia smith
That'd be so good.
alex bruesewitz
James is great.
seamus coughlin
What if it was an award ceremony for like most contrived speech and we just went to different podcasters and awarded them based on who gave a really contrived speech at some point in their podcast and then they have to give a contrived speech while they're up on stage receiving it?
I mean, who would be better for that?
Isn't that the whole point of the award show?
Someone goes on stage, gives a contrived speech, a lot of people get mad at it, it boosts ratings and people pay attention.
Wouldn't it make more sense to just cut out the nonsense and give people awards simply for making contrived, nonsensical speeches?
tim pool
It is a crazy thought when you realize that nobody watches the Oscars.
These great cultural moments losing significance and now we just don't care anymore.
We're talking about it now because some dude smacked another dude, but whether it was staged or not, that's the only thing they have that makes us talk about it.
Do you know what movie Will Smith was in?
No?
Does anybody know?
I know what movie he was in.
lydia smith
It started with a C?
tim pool
No.
seamus coughlin
I know.
tim pool
Do you guys not know?
jeffrey clark
No idea.
lydia smith
King Richard.
seamus coughlin
I'm sorry you're up to date on these things, Tim.
This is investigative journalism.
tim pool
Yes, it is.
But my point is, people don't even know what movie Will Smith was in when he was there.
And all they know is on TV some guy smacked another guy.
That's all the Oscars is these days.
jeffrey clark
Yeah.
But, you know, back to the... I'm becoming probability guy.
You know, back to the combining probabilities, right?
The fact that the show is failing and the only thing that makes anyone talk about it is this incident, to me suggests that the incident is artificial.
tim pool
Right.
alex bruesewitz
Makes sense.
tim pool
It's fake news.
It's all fake news.
But people need to understand, too, that that stage doesn't mean anybody other than Will Smith and Chris Rock knew about it.
seamus coughlin
It could even be that Chris Rock didn't know about it, but Will Smith's people told him this would be really good for publicity.
You know, we heard he's going to tell a joke, go up there and smash him.
alex bruesewitz
Is he going to get an anti-Alapecia contract?
seamus coughlin
I don't know.
We're talking about him, aren't we?
tim pool
It's his first Oscar, isn't it?
It's the first one he's ever won?
lydia smith
I don't know.
That I don't know.
alex bruesewitz
Also, what was the joke, even?
G-G.I.
Jane?
Like, why is that a bad joke?
tim pool
Because Jada Pinkett Smith has alopecia, so her hair's falling out, so she shaved her head.
So he was like, I look forward to G.I.
Jane 2.
And Will Smith laughed.
And then Jada Pinkett Smith's face like... She glared at him.
And then she looks at him and then he gets up.
And then, you know, Chris Rock says something like, oh, hey Richard, or whatever.
And then Will Smith slaps him.
I thought it was fake.
I thought it was fake because the cops didn't come.
I thought it was fake because Chris Rock didn't do anything.
That's the weirdest thing to me.
I don't know.
If I was on stage and someone walked up to me, the first thing I would do is be like, I'd put my hand up and be like, back off.
What are you doing?
Why are you walking up to me like this?
seamus coughlin
I don't know though, man, because if, if we were going to fake a fight and that was our whole thing and you were supposed to come up and smack me, I wouldn't be like, yes, I'm going to take the role of the guy who stands there in front of the entire world and doesn't fight back after he got smacked in the face.
It just seems like a really weird thing to agree to.
alex bruesewitz
I saw all these comments.
Will Smith defending his wife's honor.
And who defends their wife's honor with like an open hand slap?
tim pool
I gotta be honest, I think it's good that we're talking about it.
seamus coughlin
Do you?
tim pool
Yeah, because I'd rather people of low, what's the polite way to say this?
Of low cognitive, of limited cognitive faculties.
I would prefer it if they weren't coming out and arguing politics and voting for Biden.
You know, the way I put it is when I was younger, I was like, I wish more people were involved in politics.
Why don't they pay attention?
All they care about is sports and celebrities.
Then 2020 happens and all people cared about was politics, but they didn't know anything about it.
And so they're like, I just feel like we're in a car, you know, we're in, we're in a bus and everyone's like, we can drive off the cliff or just turn around.
And I'm like, I vote to turn around.
And they're like, off the cliff, off.
I'm like, no, no, everybody look at the rabbit, look out the window, look at the rabbit, stop.
If people want to pay attention to politics and they're passionate about it, then by all means we can have disagreements for whoever we want.
But if regular people are going like, yo, he smacked that guy, I'd rather have them be more interested in that than going out and voting on things they don't know about and aren't interested in.
You don't gotta be smart to vote.
I'm not saying that.
I'm saying if you don't care about it and you're only going out and voting because it's pop culture, that's a problem.
Let's have everybody go watch sports and pop culture somewhere else.
And anybody of any intellect or, you know, whatever, you're allowed to vote so long as you want to and you're choosing to take that first step.
jeffrey clark
You're saying it consumes their attention span, you know, budget.
alex bruesewitz
And I guess I got to thank Will and Chris because they were able to shift the news cycle away from Ukraine for a very short moment.
And so now we're back.
seamus coughlin
I just wonder if Will Smith has some Irish in his blood.
alex bruesewitz
That's a great point.
tim pool
That must be.
All right, let's go to Super Chats.
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And as a member, you're helping keep all of this work going.
You're helping us expand and build that cultural content I've been talking about.
I want to stress the importance of cultural content.
The Daily Wire is doing the same thing.
Because complaining about stuff on the internet only goes so far.
Making artwork, content that shows your values and inspires young people and will live on, that's important.
Inspiring someone who's young as to, like, why should you have these values?
Here's why.
Here's what we believe in.
Just saying it isn't enough.
You gotta show.
And that's why cultural stuff is so important.
So with your support, we'll do more.
Smash that like button.
Let's read some of these super chats.
We got random user who says, send Will Smith to smack Putin.
That sounds like something someone at the Oscars speech would say.
unidentified
That's a thought.
seamus coughlin
Something Lindsey Graham would say on Twitter.
tim pool
That's true.
Man overboard media says can next year's Oscars be hosted by Jerry Springer and Steve Wilkos?
Yes.
Amazing.
Trip Sucks says, out of all the voices that Seamus can do, he chooses a Tucker Carlson impression for his regular, normal, everyday voice.
seamus coughlin
Do I sound like Tucker?
What do you really sound like?
Here's my actual voice, ladies and gentlemen.
The media wants you to think that I sound like Tucker Carlson.
I don't, actually.
Ridiculous.
I've never said anything that sounded even remotely like Tucker Carlson.
So why do they want you to think otherwise?
That's the question you need to ask.
tim pool
He adds those little things afterwards like, you know, yeah, it's like I'm just making a declarative statement He then adds, you know, why don't you think about it?
Well, we got me and they should and they should yeah, we got the Irish broke from you tonight It comes out to me every now and again because I internalize other people's suffering so often I WhitePaperCat says, you're working on a video game.
Cool.
And yes, we are.
We've had a bit of a functioning like alpha.
And then we have right now a we retooled it and refined it.
But right now the latest version is awesome.
seamus coughlin
I think so.
tim pool
I won't say too much, but it's sort of a roguelike game.
It's a platformer descending roguelike where you are battling your way and collecting new items.
It's good stuff in the works.
I don't know if we ever said the name publicly or anything though.
seamus coughlin
No, I don't want to give too much away about it.
We've been working on this for over a year, and it's sort of gone through.
There have been a couple of iterations, but it looks like it's finally getting to the final stage with the actual code that we're going to end up using.
I'm really excited about it.
tim pool
It's going to be really cool.
seamus coughlin
We're really getting close.
There's more work to be done, but I think we finally have the basis completely finished.
We're not working on a rough draft at this point.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
Now it's a matter of artwork, and I think the only thing we really need at this point is, like, we want to make a ridiculously massive inventory system.
So, you know, I'm talking, like, weekly updates with new items.
And it's going to be fun.
It's going to be fun.
jeffrey clark
Well, and Tim, how cool is it to be at a show where you got, you know, D-100s on the table?
tim pool
I got a D-120.
Thank Ian for that.
D-120.
jeffrey clark
It's heavy, too.
tim pool
Yeah, the D-100 won't stop rolling after you roll it.
unidentified
There you go.
jeffrey clark
It's going to destroy the whole table.
tim pool
You got a 14.
lydia smith
All that for a 14.
jeffrey clark
Yeah, pretty crappy.
lydia smith
Oh well.
unidentified
Alright.
tim pool
Did he really?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
Did he do that?
Do you want to pull it up?
I heard that slap and I thought it sounded weird.
fight director that slap was a stage slap. Note Will Smith hitting his chest to make a sound.
unidentified
Did he really? No. Did he do that? He did the... Do you want to pull it up?
seamus coughlin
Um, yeah I can pull it up on my laptop. I heard that slap and I thought it sounded weird.
jeffrey clark
I'd heard someone say that he stomped his foot.
seamus coughlin
God, you're telling me Hollywood couldn't come up with better special effects than that if they were to fake this?
lydia smith
Yeah, really. I agree.
tim pool
Yeah, but look, if it was staged between just the two people and no one else, right?
Yeah.
Thomas Sidebottom says, the only reason the media can get away with saying what he actually meant was, is because Biden literally can't defend against it.
seamus coughlin
Also, I mean, they do it all the time to people who can defend against it.
They just know what you were thinking every time you say something.
It's very impressive power they have.
tim pool
Seriously, JK says, I know I'm a random internet guy, but I have a very close inside Hollywood source with direct connection to two of them.
Nothing was staged, trust me or not, but this person is super legit.
But could it be that Will Smith walked up to Chris Rock yesterday and whispered, I'm gonna slap you, do a joke, okay?
Don't tell anybody.
Could it have been that staged?
And so obviously their family and friends were like, wow, that was real.
seamus coughlin
Huh.
tim pool
Maybe.
Let's see.
Barrick Bulldog says, no Ian Weep.
Ian is currently on vacation.
seamus coughlin
Tim, let me send you the link.
I don't know.
tim pool
I can't pull it up on there.
seamus coughlin
Oh, you're not able to pull it up on there?
lydia smith
Okay.
seamus coughlin
All right.
tim pool
Jacqueline Pierce says, Shimcast, please shout out Joseph's 9th birthday because he's a huge Shimcast fan and loves Freedom 2 so much.
seamus coughlin
Well, that's fantastic.
Joseph is also an incredible name.
Happy birthday, young lad.
tim pool
Vash says Zelensky threw up the white flag. He's giving up the Donbass.
If only Russia would have told us that was their intent, we could have negotiated for peace instead of arming people
they consider terrorists.
Is that happening? That's the latest? He's giving up? He's going to give in?
Does that make Putin stop? Don't know.
lydia smith
It's not going to work.
tim pool
Yeah.
Should... You know that joke I sent you about the USA Today article?
Should we say that or did you want to use it?
seamus coughlin
Let's use it.
Let's think about it.
Also, someone shouted out the cartoon we collaborated on.
I think it was up there a little bit.
He complimented your Fauci performance.
tim pool
Oh, there you go.
Harry To says, the Freedom Tunes episode, Fauci starving for attention, is the funniest thing I've seen this year.
When Fauci Tim starts singing the Eminem song, I almost fell out of my chair.
I'm very proud of that.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, that was a great moment.
And if you guys are interested, if you watch the cartoon and laugh, if you donate on Patreon, you'll actually be able to see Tim and I recording it.
And some of it was actually improv.
The final product is a bit different from the script and we came up with some really funny stuff.
tim pool
Wait, so we actually recorded when I had that epiphany?
seamus coughlin
Yes.
unidentified
I was like, I stopped and I was like, Seamus, you're like, wait a minute, I've got it.
tim pool
And you were like, what, what do you got?
And I was like, Stan.
seamus coughlin
I was like, that's a horrible idea!
We're not doing it!
tim pool
Fauci singing Stan.
Or Trump is.
seamus coughlin
Trump Trump sings the the Dido part and She's good good. I would drink. Why you guys got to check
tim pool
it out I'm gonna check that out.
Group B says, in response to earlier video, Brookings mislabeled you as Tim Pool Daily Show, when everyone knows it's Timcast.
Also about Biolabs, how do we know that they don't data back from the Soviet Union era?
Have data?
I don't know, but I will say, the Tim Pool Daily Show is a podcast.
I put up two podcasts.
Timcast IRL is conversational and Tim Pool Daily Show is monologue.
So if you didn't know that, because Timcast IRL on podcast platforms has way more viewers.
It's got triple the audience.
So I have two YouTube channels which are like me monologuing and then that becomes one podcast on iTunes and Spotify called Tim Pool Daily Show.
That's what Brookings was referencing They basically took me saying there are no bioweapons labs and people are wrong, and then made an article saying Tim Pool pushes lies that there are biolabs.
Congratulations.
That's brilliant fake news.
All right.
What do we got here?
Awesome.
Archivist says, Tim, I have a prediction based upon my analysis of the Ukrainian war.
I believe if the UN and NATO do not help rebuild Ukraine for fear of further Russian aggression, the World Economic Forum will for good public press.
Interesting.
Perhaps.
Valorn says, see, we English told you you can't trust the Irish, but you didn't listen and now you have one doing this.
Don't feed him whiskey after midnight.
seamus coughlin
First of all, you think he's awake after midnight?
unidentified
Come on.
alex bruesewitz
No way.
tim pool
Yeah, we have to limit Seamus after the show because we wrap up around 11, and then Seamus is always going for the whiskey.
seamus coughlin
That's extremely fancy.
lydia smith
It's not true.
seamus coughlin
Only when it's not Lent.
lydia smith
Yeah, that's fair.
tim pool
All right.
Icefox says, any advice for how to research your reps?
People like me who work long hours and no skill in research trying to figure out our reps' claims versus actual beliefs.
I just moved to NC and I'm trying to figure out my reps' choices so I can vote right coming up.
Go talk to them.
lydia smith
Look at their Twitter.
tim pool
Look at their Twitter, talk to them, and you can go to Ballotpedia and look up a lot of information about them.
It's the best thing you can do.
It's hard to know exactly.
Can you trust them, you know?
Look at their record, I guess, but it is tough to be, you know, seriously.
jeffrey clark
There are some rating services that, you know, look at people's voting records.
You could find that on the net, too.
tim pool
Greg Duvier says, Seamus, why do you still use Patreon?
seamus coughlin
That's a good question.
So we're actually working on building a paywall on my website right now, so we can use that instead, but it's still under construction.
So I switched to Subscribestar for a little while, but unfortunately, even though everyone tells you they want you to use something besides Patreon, when you create something different, you just don't pull in as much through donations, and it got to the point where we were literally going to have to stop making the cartoons because we weren't generating enough revenue to continue, so I just had to go back to Patreon for the time being.
tim pool
Get that website.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, we're getting closer.
So basically what we're going to be doing is launching a paywall.
The normal Freedom Tunes videos, the weekly uploads, are going to stay free, but we're also working on extra content for people who donate.
I don't want to give an exact date right now, but once we have a solid enough content of library to have a bit of wiggle room, we're going to launch the official website where people will be able to donate for exclusive content.
So we're working on it now, and I'm pretty excited for that.
tim pool
All right.
Hans Gruber.
Oh, Hans Gruber, huh?
He says, when billionaires sell massive amounts of stocks to pay taxes on unrealized gains, the market will crash.
alex bruesewitz
Good point.
tim pool
That's true.
It absolutely will.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
I mean, they're going to have to sell off their shares.
You're going to crash the market.
But as I also mentioned, what you are doing is you are essentially saying, if someone is doing such a good job at running their company that the value of their stock increases, they should sacrifice control over their company.
To people who have potentially never been involved with the business before.
That's insane.
unidentified
Crazy.
tim pool
Yeah.
All right.
Winston Alexander says, with an unrealized tax, the government will have to federalize appraisers, local tax assessors, and insurance adjusters.
Yeah, otherwise how do you actually determine the value of something?
Crazy, man.
unidentified
B.D.
tim pool
Pershing says, this hits people who own crypto hard because you don't earn any money on crypto till it's sold.
So all these multi-millionaires due to crypto are going to get hit hard.
unidentified
Maybe that's the point.
tim pool
There are legit people who are worth $100 million because of crypto.
So they're going to try and stop these people from becoming wealthy off of crypto.
But man, just think about crazy that is.
That you were some libertarian trying to buy drugs on the Internet in 2010 and now you're worth $500 million.
Crazy.
Good for them.
Yo, you think I'm kidding.
unidentified
That's what happened to a lot of people.
Man.
tim pool
Sequoia says, unrealized gains tax forces asset sell-offs across all vectors.
Huge financial crisis.
Fed has perfect rationale to buy these assets, currently prohibited.
They have ownership stake control of every company equals great reset.
Crazy, man.
Yeah, or they like seize your assets because you couldn't afford your tax bill, so they just take your stuff from you without you selling it, you know.
A bunch of people were arguing over smashing the like button.
Button the smash like, like the smash button, smash the like button.
seamus coughlin
I think people were saying slap the like button earlier in the show.
tim pool
Slap it.
seamus coughlin
Smush.
tim pool
Raiken, uh, as I say, Raiken or Raelynn, wealth tax is already here.
It's called property taxes.
My house assessment went up 20%.
That's true.
And, uh, property ownership is how people transfer wealth to their, to their kids.
So they're absolutely taxing your wealth.
They just want to do more.
seamus coughlin
It's to prevent ordinary people from becoming wealthy because one argument that the left will always make about systemic racism and redlining is that property ownership is the quickest way to build up wealth and either enter the middle class or upper class and black people are excluded from that.
But they're fine making it more difficult for literally everyone in the country to amass wealth that way.
Even though they have acknowledged that it can keep a group of people down and will keep groups of people down.
jeffrey clark
Well, it's what you were saying, Tim, earlier about, you know, structural dynamism.
If all these rules basically lock people, you know, lock the world into a stasis where the rich stay rich and other people can't climb the ladder, then, you know, there's no challenge to that economic power structure.
And it's just not the kind of system that we should want to have.
You know, we need to have strong respect for the rule of law and for constitutional law, but we also need, you know, an Adam Smithian kind of economic system.
Otherwise, You know, you get power monopolies either on governmental power, or on private power, or these days, the combination of private and public power all in one.
tim pool
All right.
Wes Candle says, even if they did get the idea from you, they'd have to steal actual frames of your footage for you to have a claim.
Blade Runner used that color palette with statues, and star battles surely exist.
jeffrey clark
Well, how would you... One more time on that one.
That one went by too fast.
I apologize.
Yeah.
tim pool
Wes Candle says, even if they did get the idea from you, they'd have to steal the actual frames of your footage for you to have a claim.
Blade Runner used the color palette with statues and star battles surely exists.
jeffrey clark
No, I don't agree with that.
I think that, you know, it's a, like I said, it's a kind of overarching analysis that looks
all of, at all of the elements together and, you know, I don't think you have to copy particular
frames in order to have a case.
tim pool
Stock says wait 10 days and we'll know if it's intentional or coincidence.
What would you recommend in terms of something like this?
Should you just wait until they publish something that may be infringing, or do you...?
jeffrey clark
Well, I mean, you know, it looks to me like you should raise these questions now because you also don't want to wind up in a spot where you sleep on your rights.
tim pool
Right.
That's what people need to understand.
I see, you know, people are commenting like, Tim thinks he's all this and all that.
It's like, dude, You have a bunch of lawyers when it comes to criminal or civil.
They tell you if you don't exercise your rights, you can't defend them later on.
So let me just warn all of you guys.
If you come to this property because we've had the issue, you will be charged with a felony.
I'm not exaggerating.
The feds have already been here because of what's been going on.
And there are people who think it's a game.
So I'm just letting you guys know.
Our hands are tied on all of this stuff.
Because as a big company, with a bunch of employees, if someone comes and does something, we have to exercise fullest extent legality.
To the fullest extent of legalities.
Because if there is someone who does a thing that in some way infringes or violates any of our rights and we don't exercise it, we lose claim to it in the future.
So with this song, our immediate reaction was, we have to exercise all options.
unidentified
Right.
jeffrey clark
And in terms of your physical safety, right, you know, with your employees, you owe them, you know, certain duties.
And, you know, you need to make sure that you, you know, don't just sleep on your creative rights, but, you know, you protect the physical safety of everyone who's part of your enterprise.
tim pool
You know, what's sad is...
As our company grows, not a day goes by where I'm not wondering myself or realizing this is exactly why all corporations do the things they do.
Because certain laws exist, regulations exist, and it's really fascinating when I learned you couldn't give people money.
That was kind of shocking to me.
I was like, wow, you can't give people money.
Up to $15,000 you can give someone money, but you can't buy your mom a house.
You just can't do it.
There's ways you can support your family, for sure, but there's, like, you can't hire people at unreasonable rates.
You can get investigated.
People seem to think that if you have money you can do whatever you want.
It's like, man, certainly it is good to have money.
No joke.
Life is comfortable.
But there are a bunch of rules that come into place.
If I want to be able to make music and make money off it, if I want to be able to do this show and make money off it, all of a sudden there's crazy, rigid, legal rules we have to follow.
When something comes out that people are saying looks like it's a copy, we're like, okay, we have to exercise our rights.
Absolutely.
unidentified
100%.
tim pool
Otherwise we could, we risk, you know, losing them, uh, in other places.
So that's why this is, this is why, and I'll let you guys know, this is why I'm talking about it publicly on this show, instead of just going to our lawyers and being like, fire away.
I was like, no, no, no, we should talk about it.
Let everybody know what's happening and how, how we feel about it, because we want to be able to produce content and not be crushed by massive conglomerates like Warner or something like that.
That means we do it this way.
And, you know, some people say it's, you know, I've been advised maybe we should just file something and not talk about it.
But I'm like, I'd rather let people know, you know, what's going on and be transparent to the best of our abilities.
But at the same time, assert we will be exercising our rights.
I'm wondering if in 10 days it's coming out, the song or something.
I don't know.
I know the album is released in August.
All right.
West Candle says, so following up, he says, I've worked on tons of music videos and they were clearly referencing Blade Runner.
I like you, Tim, but no one in this industry is passing around your music video for reference.
You know, I disagree, especially with people saying, I think they were saying Matt Bellamy was on Alex Jones a year ago?
Or something like that?
lydia smith
It was multiple years ago.
tim pool
I thought it was back in 2006.
Yeah.
That he said that he was inspired by Jones to make Uprising.
lydia smith
Yeah, I thought he was on Jones in 2016.
tim pool
Yeah, talking about Alex Jones' documentaries and stuff.
Yeah, it's been a while.
So, if this is a guy who's familiar with this space and he's in politics and he pays attention to anti-establishment voices, yeah, I think it's incredibly likely.
Plus, the video's got 1.2 million views.
It's not like it's got no views, you know?
All right.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
says, stand your ground, you're effing Tim Pool.
I mean, look, here's what I want to say too about the people getting charged for coming here.
That sucks.
I never wanted to be in a position where it's like a castle, like a literal one with like fortified walls.
And then you realize you have no choice.
Literally, legally, criminally, civilly, we have no choice.
If someone steps foot on the property, the first thing that happens is the police come down and that person's getting charged.
And I'll just make sure it's clear.
There's big no trespassing signs.
You walk past that, it's a misdemeanor.
There's a physical barrier.
You walk around it or past it, it's a felony.
Not kidding.
And that's all I can say.
People need to understand that.
And we do have... I'll leave it there because it's a tough circumstance.
I always wanted to be accessible.
We wanted to do events.
We wanted to be like, in the future, we're going to have events that will be members only, and then it'll be semi-private.
People started abusing our kindness.
People started doing crazy stuff.
And the sad thing is, when you're getting 60 million... We were getting like 100 million views during the election.
It's crazy, crazy numbers.
It takes only one out of a hundred million to be crazy to come here and ruin everything for everybody and hurt somebody.
So... Alright, let's grab some more.
Lex Avellino says, Shamus, fellow God-fearing brother here, building in the blockchain gaming space, would love to hear more about your game and see if we can add some value.
Shot you a tweet, I'm in Virginia too.
seamus coughlin
Oh, cool.
Yeah, let's see if we can have a conversation.
I'm not sure if you're interested in other stuff with the code.
I've basically just been focusing on like story and art.
I wouldn't know anything about the kind of code that goes into it or anything that might be associated with the blockchain.
But if you want to reach out to Tim and his people, if they're willing to talk, that'd be pretty cool.
And also, God bless you.
And I'm glad that we have other God-fearing folks out there.
tim pool
We do need blockchain stuff.
seamus coughlin
Oh, cool.
Yeah.
Great.
tim pool
SpidgeBee says, if you don't defend your copyrights and trademarks, you may as well not have them.
Having a reputation for playing aggressively will dissuade other interlopers.
Maybe mediate, but theirs can't coexist.
jeffrey clark
Property rights, right?
You know, good fences make good neighbors.
And so, you know, that's one reason why it's important to make sure that property rights aren't Jerome Morrow says you have to aggressively enforce your copyright.
increasing frequency and it's also a reason if you're the holder of a
property right even an intellectual property right that you make sure that
you're aggressive about protecting it. Jerome Morrow says you have to
tim pool
aggressively enforce your copyright if you don't not only will you lose your
right to do so in the future but you'll also be showing the authoritarian woke
left an effective attack vector to sabotage your future cultural works that
counter their influence. Yep that's basically it you know.
Pew Pew Trucker says, you're looking at the Muse song the wrong way.
It's a tribute cover.
They just want to stand with their idols.
Certainly, one way, a lot of people have said, imitation is the greatest form of flattery.
That's true, but like, if we have been working on these vocals, and like, I've been screaming into these microphones, writing songs.
We've been flying out musicians, some prominent musicians.
We've had, on one of the songs, actually on both of them, it's the former drummer from The Offspring.
So we're not, like, this is very serious.
We're actually negotiating with major labels on this stuff for, like, guest vocalists and singers.
I shouldn't have to be publicly announcing our plans to launch this stuff because of what Muse is doing.
Regardless of whether or not anyone thinks it's intentional.
jeffrey clark
If someone does a cover song, right, you know, a cover version of a song, that's, you know, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, right?
But if they're taking an original idea you have, especially when it's in the kind of launch phase, and ripping it off, that's theft.
tim pool
Man, times are tough.
We have a huge backstory for the universe in the characters of Tales from the Inverted World.
I think I've even talked about it on the show.
The dictator's name is The Wolf.
There's posters saying, send the pigs to the wolves.
The little boy under the bed is holding a stuffed wolf.
The character's arc is...
His parents are executed by the dictator that they were calling the pigs, you know, Cochino or whatever.
And the last thing this kid had from his parents was a stuffed wolf toy.
So as he grew up, he always carried it around with him, had it in his backpack.
And so he gained the nickname, the wolf, which was actually a term of endearment because his friends knew what it meant.
He was this revolutionary.
But when he grows up and becomes the leader of this authoritarian regime, the wolf becomes pejorative.
Like we have a whole universe mapped out for this project.
And we were like, we wanted a comic, we're talking about movies, no joke.
Almost two months ago, discussions on feature film.
It's frustrating that it comes to this and I have to now be like, hey, look, here's what we're planning on doing.
I hope everybody knows.
But that's the reality of it, I suppose.
So we'll see where it ends up.
Alright, let's grab a couple more Super Chats.
Jason Bellick says, I worked with a guy who sued Lil Nas X for copyright.
You need an expert on the music industry.
I can hook you up.
Uh, I appreciate it.
We actually have a couple and it's really interesting.
Like we've already had some conversations.
Obviously, like I said, our company has lawyers that deal with this stuff.
Cause you know, we distribute a very large podcast.
All right.
Rye- Ryan Merce With a Mouth says, There is a video labeled as the leaked song from Muse and the chord structure is identical to your song, but it's not actually a Muse song.
It's a song by Oliver Light called Revenge.
Well, I've not heard that.
My concern right now is with their Will of the People promo that shows, like, a live-action shot-for-shot remake, so.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Leon's Law says, Why are these idiot lawyers advising Tim to do lol suits?
jeffrey clark
What's a LOL suit?
tim pool
Like a frivolous LOL?
Yeah.
jeffrey clark
Okay.
tim pool
Frivolous, laughable suits that won't go anywhere.
jeffrey clark
I don't think that I've advised you to file a suit.
That would be point number one.
I don't think he's listening very carefully.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
I don't think I've even said filing a lawsuit.
jeffrey clark
Yeah, no, you didn't either.
seamus coughlin
This is what happens when you argue with a lawyer over the Super Chat.
unidentified
It's like, I never said, but you notice.
seamus coughlin
If you return to ten minutes and thirty-six seconds into the podcast, you will know what I said.
jeffrey clark
Let's replay the transcript.
tim pool
People don't understand that legal remedies don't necessarily mean lawsuits.
It could literally be like, when I say, you know, taking action, it could be like, we write a letter.
Like, hey, can we get on the phone real quick?
jeffrey clark
I heard you say that you wanted to raise questions, and I also heard you say that when you said you wanted to raise questions, people immediately hop to the conclusion Well, they didn't steal it from you, which is kind of almost like a consciousness of guilt, or the lady doth protest too much.
Right.
tim pool
Well, that was the funny thing, because some people interpreted that as, everybody knows I'm a fan of Muse, and they were like, no, he said he wants to chat with him, he wants to get him on the show.
Some people said that.
Some people just immediately went, whoa, what?
And a bunch of people responded saying, dude, they didn't steal your work.
Calm down.
And like, I literally said nothing.
jeffrey clark
Right.
tim pool
So projection.
You know, it's a point I was making before.
When you say something like that, it says more about what your thought process saw already without being prompted.
jeffrey clark
So that was the lol projection.
tim pool
Yep.
Yep.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
says, I love the support of your audience.
Go IRL team.
You know, I thought about this.
I'm like, I'm a fan.
I'm a big fan of Muse.
I can play, you know, a bunch of their songs.
It's been a while.
I forgot something, but I can, I covered, you know, I could play a bunch of their songs.
I've been a fan of them since I was like a teenager, but whether I'm a fan of them or not
is immaterial to what's happening now.
If some people, if they were like, you inspired them or whatever, I'd be like,
if they did see it and they were like, you know, we were inspired by it,
I would have appreciated a conversation.
But I gotta say all of that's immaterial.
The question is, we have to consider our rights.
We have to always pursue protecting our rights as a corporation.
We don't even have a choice in the matter.
It's not like you can't ignore these things.
So people need to understand that it's not often, it's not personal.
Sometimes it's personal.
Sometimes people file lawsuits because they're just mean people.
But this is not personal.
I'm a fan of Muse.
But I'm not going to back down from this project we're working on and the culture we're trying to build.
And I've been a musician since I was seven years old.
I obviously care about my work.
Just because Muse is a massive, you know, stadium-selling out band doesn't mean I'm going to ignore the fact that there's an issue.
We'll see what happens.
But now you guys heard it from me before anybody else, because I didn't want this to come out like a press story or something and then have people be like, whoa, what's going on?
But that being said, my friends, smash the like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, head over to TimCast.com.
We're going to start recording that members-only podcast for you guys, which will be up around 11 or so p.m.
You can follow me at TimCast IRL.
You can follow the show at TimCast IRL.
Follow me personally at TimCast.
And you can check out Will of the People on YouTube, which has been up since November 2nd.
Watch the video.
It's a short film.
I think most of you will really appreciate it if you like the politics of this show.
And we have, on my Instagram, some demos of the next songs that are coming out.
On youtube.com slash castcastle, we actually show part of the production process with the songs we're working on.
Some of these are rough cuts, and they don't sound all that good.
Just keep that in mind.
And the songs are going to get mastered, and they're going to be top quality.
Really, really good stuff.
So, appreciate it.
Alex, you want to show anything else?
alex bruesewitz
Yeah, I'm going to get yelled at if I don't do that.
So I have a book coming out.
It's published by Post Hill Press.
It comes out April 26.
It's called Winning the Social Media War, How Conservatives Can Fight Back, Reclaim the Narrative, and Turn the Tides Against the Left.
And we talk about a lot of the stuff that we talked about tonight, including the mass formation psychosis that takes place online, the censorship, Hunter Biden's laptop plays a key role in the rigging of the election.
And so we lay that out in there very nicely.
We interviewed Dozens of leading conservatives, including Donald Trump Jr., Charlie Kirk, even politicians like Marjorie Taylor Greene, Senator Rick Scott, was gracious enough to give us some time.
And so it's an awesome book.
Some say it's the greatest book of all time, just past the Bible and the art of the deal.
And so, unbiasedly, I agree with them.
So, winning the Social Media Awards and Barnes & Noble, Amazon, all the major booksellers.
seamus coughlin
Sheamus Cogman.
I'm not going to mess with the lawyer, all right?
You go ahead and have your spot.
jeffrey clark
Maybe I'll have to consider suing you, Sheamus.
seamus coughlin
He didn't say he was going to sue me.
He said he was going to consider suing me for everyone listening at home.
jeffrey clark
Very good.
tim pool
Real quick, real quick.
Someone said in Super Chats, you guys should call your games division Tim Tendo.
Haha.
Defend yourself fiercely.
Could we do that?
seamus coughlin
Uh, Shimtendo.
tim pool
No, no, no, no, legitimate question.
If we formed a company called Timtendo for our video games... I'm not advising you to, theoretically.
jeffrey clark
I think I'd have to analyze that question very carefully, Tim.
tim pool
Good lawyer response.
seamus coughlin
Yes.
tim pool
I kind of feel like I wouldn't get away with it.
Especially if we got big.
Nintendo would be like, get out of here.
jeffrey clark
You might get a threatening letter at the very least.
tim pool
Yeah.
You can sue a ham sandwich, it doesn't mean you're going to win.
That's right.
So one thing people need to realize too is if someone's got the resources and they're just like, I don't like what you're doing, I'll bury you.
They can just throw money at you.
alex bruesewitz
And the January 6th committee is doing that to, you know, to everybody that ever stood by President Trump right now.
They're doing that exact same thing.
There's nothing that they can be investigating that's actually legitimate and so their goal is to financially harm anybody.
I'm $90,000 deep in legal fees already and all I had to do is tell them to F off.
I used my second favorite F word, Fifth Amendment, 102 times in 46 minutes.
I wanted to use my first favorite F word.
Uh, which I'm not going to say because I'm a classy gentleman right now.
Um, but I mean, they're doing this evil things to evil people.
I know my friend, uh, Jeff's also been looped into what they're doing too, but you made a great point.
You can sue anybody for anything.
You can make anybody, uh, you know, go through the trouble of getting attorneys just, just for the hell of it.
And it's a dangerous tactic.
tim pool
It's like poker.
If you've got the weight, you can pressure somebody and even force them to back down.
Even big corporations, they'll often just be like, I'll pay you what you want and go away.
You know?
alex bruesewitz
Yeah, and that's what most people that have been subpoenaed by the January 6th Committee have done.
They've kind of taken the subpoena and they're like, oh my gosh, I want to do what I can and take everything because I just can't afford it.
And kind of similarly to you, I think a lot of people pick on you because they don't understand how big you are, right?
You have 60 million viewers.
It's a substantial I mean, we were just rated the 25th fastest-growing company in the southeastern United States for private companies, and most people go to our website.
I'm like, oh my God, they have a Wix website from 2018, which we do.
We just never really cared about our website, and so I'm going to stand up to this commission and tell them to F off because they're dangerous and I say they picked the wrong fight.
And so now, if you guys can, find the January 6th Committee's phone number, call them and ask them to drag me in for the public show trials because I'd love for them to do that.
It'd be a lot of fun because I could use some at least free publicity with the tens of thousands of dollars in legal fees I've spent.
tim pool
Right on.
unidentified
Wow.
seamus coughlin
I have a YouTube channel called Freedom Tunes.
We make cartoons.
We release one cartoon every week, sometimes two a week.
We got one shouted out in the comment section here.
It's a video Tim and I did about Dr. Fauci.
He's very sad that he's not getting the attention anymore, so won't you go over to Freedom Tunes and watch the cartoons we just uploaded with him in them.
unidentified
It would really mean a lot to him.
seamus coughlin
And also, we did a cartoon on the Oscars from last year.
I was very happy.
I think it's a funny cartoon, so if you guys want to check that one out as well, I think you'd enjoy it.
tim pool
Your microphone's off.
Yep, your microphone's off.
lydia smith
Oh, there we go.
Oh, I am there.
There we go.
I muted myself.
I just want to be quiet.
I just want to say that our guest, Jeff, was a former Assistant Attorney General for the Environment and Natural Resource Division under Trump.
I realize that we didn't fully introduce him.
He's also a lawyer, which is why we were looking for his expertise this evening.
Thank you, Jeff, for pitching in.
Appreciate that.
jeffrey clark
Thank you very much.
lydia smith
And I also wanted to say, we mentioned a website that was for looking for non-woke jobs.
That site is down.
Unwoke.hr is gone.
They got hacked.
They were off the air in like a day, which is really kind of annoying.
But there's another site called redballoon.org.
It's very small, but on it you can go and find like freedom-oriented employers, people who are looking for maybe unvaccinated employees, which is kind of interesting to me.
Anyway, that was just what I found over the course of the show.
You guys may follow me on Twitter and Minds.com at SourPatchLids.
I also have SourPatchLids.me where you can go to find all my socials if you're interested.
jeffrey clark
Can I make a quick two plugs?
So please follow me on Twitter at JeffClarkUS.
And also, in light of the issues that Alex was talking about, I have a legal defense fund actually, you know, in terms of the numbers that are being mounted up for my personal legal bills at GiveSendGo.com slash Jeff Clark.
I'd appreciate any help.
tim pool
Right on!
We will see everybody over at TimCast.com in that member segment.
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